Episode 480 | Neo Soul Sorting Hat

Summary

New Rory & MAL – Episode 480 | "Neo Soul Sorting Hat"

Date: April 14, 2026
Podcast: New Rory & MAL (iHeartPodcasts & The Volume)

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Episode Overview

In this packed and lively episode, Rory, Mal, and Damaris reunite to bring a dose of witty banter, cultural critiques, wild stories, and hot takes—focusing on everything from club culture and generational divides, to the state of music festivals, the Euphoria season premiere, and the viral “Neo Soul Sorting Hat” meme from Jack Harlow’s latest album cycle. As always, the hosts blend humor with poignant commentary about pop and rap culture, friendships, and living in the digital age.

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Table of Contents

1. Catching Up: Returning from LA, Clubbing, and Generational Gaps
2. Nightlife, Gender, and Judgment
3. LA Experiences: Restaurants, Video Shoots, and Collard Green Lasagna
4. Men’s Empowerment, The Last Supper, and Group Outings
5. Viral Clips, Club Judgments, and Relationship Stories
6. Flight Movie Review and Accountability
7. Parenthood, Excuses, and Lying for Your Kids
8. Euphoria Season 3, OnlyFans, and Drug Mule Storylines
9. Coachella, Bieber’s Performance, and Festival Allure
10. Usher & Chris Brown Mega-Tour Discussion
11. Jack Harlow’s “Neo Soul Sorting Hat” and Ghostwriting Discourse
12. Offset, Gambling, and the Rules of the Streets
13. J. Cole’s Basketball Stint in China
14. Summer Plans, Michael Jackson Biopic, and Maury on BET
15. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

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1. Catching Up: Returning from L.A., Clubbing, and Generational Gaps

Main Points:

• Rory returns from LA feeling “over” clubbing, especially after observing much-younger crowds at Harriet’s.
• Mal, Damaris, and Rory joke about age differences in club culture.
• Damaris pokes fun at Rory and Mal for feeling old and judging young people.

Notable Moment:
"[Clubbing] is so trash ... it was jam-packed in there with a bunch of people born after 2000." - Rory (06:08)

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2. Nightlife, Gender, and Judgment

Main Points:

• Discussion on women going out to clubs alone: Mal calls it a “red flag,” Damaris defends the practice as a normal part of youth.
• The hosts debate club behaviors, safety, and generational perspectives on partying.
• Mal: “A woman going to the club by herself with no friends is a red flag. I don’t care what you sit behind your desk and tell me, Damaris.” (08:38)
• Damaris: “Young girls do shit that ain’t safe ... Y’all are just old. And of course, you know better ... Old wise ones, stay our old asses home next to the fire.” (09:02)

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3. LA Experiences: Restaurants, Video Shoots, and Collard Green Lasagna

Main Points:

• Rory recounts a trip to LA for a video shoot with friends and a dinner at Issa Rae’s restaurant, Somerville (“collard green lasagna” gets major props).
• Catching up with music industry friends.
• Damaris accuses Rory of being more social in LA than in NY.

Notable Quote:
“I wanted to live in that collard green lasagna.” – Rory (11:19)

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4. Men’s Empowerment, The Last Supper, and Group Outings

Main Points:

• Joking about the awkwardness or perceived oddity of “men’s empowerment” events and large groups of men going out together.
• Satirical take on The Last Supper as a “men’s dinner full of low-key hating.”
• Witty riff: “More powerful together” – Rory; “Get the fuck out of here, men’s empowerment.” – Mal (13:05)
• Parallel drawn between The Last Supper and splitting the bill at group dinners.

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5. Viral Clips, Club Judgments, and Relationship Stories

Main Points:

• The group revisits Damaris' viral moment about clubbing standards and getting concert tickets, leading to jokes about “burgers and bottles” and event etiquette.
• Damaris: “Don’t do that if you in her box and you can’t get a burger or a bottle.” (17:07)
• Discussion of being caught working at events vs. partying.
• Rory: “Making fun of your friends at work is the funniest.” (18:52)

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6. Flight Movie Review and Accountability

Main Points:

• Spirited recap of the Denzel Washington film “Flight,” focusing on accountability, addiction, and morality.
• Conversations spin into funny takes about lying on relatives and kids for cover stories.
• “If I died and you’re my people, you can blame that on me to not go to jail for manslaughter.” – Rory (24:37)
• The hosts confess to having lied about “grandmas and kids” for convenience.

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7. Parenthood, Excuses, and Lying for Your Kids

Main Points:

• Using children as excuses (“my daughter’s sick”) in various relational contexts.
• Damaris describes a boyfriend lying during a date, using his “sick daughter” as an excuse.
• “Just because you’re a good father doesn’t mean, like, you’re a good partner.” – Damaris (29:15)

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8. Euphoria Season 3, OnlyFans, and Drug Mule Storylines

[31:26–36:42]

Main Points:

• Mixed reviews on Euphoria’s new season: strong focus on the shift from high school drama to adult storylines (cartel, OnlyFans, construction work, etc.).
• Mal: “That’s fair … I mean, it’s not far-fetched to go to high school with someone and then a couple years out you find out they work for the cartel.” (31:38)
• Discussion of a graphic drug mule scene – “I had to look away … the only time I want to hear gag is when I’m getting head” – Rory (33:05)
• The group debates realism, shock value, and the show’s change in tone.

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9. Coachella, Bieber’s Performance, and Festival Allure

[41:39–55:00]

Main Points:

• Recap and analysis of Coachella 2026 performances—specifically Justin Bieber’s headline set that included reviewing old YouTube content.
• Rory argues the approach “fits the times,” while Mal and Damaris debate Bieber’s strengths as a live performer.
• Reflections on how Coachella’s appeal has shifted from music to content creation/influencer activity (“the content weekend”).
• Discussion on how technology and social media have changed the festival experience.

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10. Usher & Chris Brown Mega-Tour Discussion

[55:42–58:50]

Main Points:

• Excitement about the newly announced Usher and Chris Brown joint tour, potential for legendary performances, and tour logistics.
• Mal jokes about possible backstage egos regarding who would “open.”
• “This is going to be one of the most iconic tours." – Mal (55:56)
• Consideration of possible openers (Kehlani, Summer Walker, etc.) and comparisons to past tours like Jay-Z/R. Kelly.

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11. Jack Harlow’s “Neo Soul Sorting Hat” and Ghostwriting Discourse

[67:45–78:11]

Main Points:

• Discussion of the viral “Neo Soul Sorting Hat” meme, its SNL parody, and the conversation it has generated around Jack Harlow’s latest stylistic pivot.
• Whether he should “lean in” to the criticism, and what the fallout means for his name and career.
• “Sometimes you need more friends on your marketing plan, not in your studio.” – Rory (71:21)
• Jozzy’s interview about being asked to ghostwrite without credit, sparking a nuanced conversation about rap’s ghostwriting stigma and acknowledging writers in music credits.
• “I think it’s weird when you say, ‘I don’t want to credit you on the song for writing it.’” – Mal (77:11)

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12. Offset, Gambling, and the Rules of the Streets

[83:11–87:43]

Main Points:

• Discussion of Offset’s shooting incident and the rumor mill around betting, debts, and street consequences.
• Reflections on the difference between the rap world and "real world" code regarding debts: “If you’re constantly ass-betting people and not paying them back, that is your fault. I’m sorry. It’s your fault.” – Rory (85:52)

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13. J. Cole’s Basketball Stint in China

[92:00–97:00]

Main Points:

• Jokes and heated debate about J. Cole pursuing his basketball dream in the Chinese Basketball Association (CBA).
• Mal is roasting but ultimately supportive; Rory frames it as “earned and cool, but funny.”
• “Going all the way to China to get one point, one rebound, and one assist is absolutely crazy.” – Mal (94:39)
• Damaris is excited for Cole’s upcoming tour ("Dreamville") and details ticket-buying anxiety.

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14. Summer Plans, Michael Jackson Biopic, and Maury on BET

[100:18–110:36]

Main Points:

• The hosts talk about summer plans, excitement-levels (or lack thereof with age), and upcoming concerts (J. Cole, Kehlani).
• Lengthy segment on the forthcoming Michael Jackson biopic—concerns over accuracy, family involvement, and dealing with legacy.
• Mal wonders about Janet Jackson’s reaction; reference to Paris Jackson’s comments that the film is “not accurate” and caters to fans.
• Blanket Jackson’s privacy and celebrity childhoods are discussed, with jokes about name changes.
• BET's new “Who's the Baby Daddy?” show is discussed with tongue-in-cheek suggestions about IG influencers and social media celebrities appearing on it.
• “This might beat Video Soul and 106th & Park!” – Mal (108:36)

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

Club Culture, Aging, and Judgement

• “The only girls that love going out Christmas Eve to the club … where’s your dad?” – Mal (07:13)
• “Stay y’ all’s old asses home next to the fire.” – Damaris (09:02)

Music and Culture

• “Clubbing is so trash … it was jam-packed in there with a bunch of people born after 2000.” – Rory (06:08)
• “What would be a big moment even for nostalgic artists that you’d be like, ‘We gotta go see that?’ Usher, Chris Brown together.” – Rory (48:30)
• “If you’re doing an OnlyFans storyline on Euphoria, you’ve got to show hole.” – Rory (36:13)

Industry/Artistry Insight

• “Sometimes you need more friends on your marketing plan, not in your studio.” – Rory (71:21)
• “If you have someone that has a pen, you can kind of help you with a record … as an artist it’s supposed to be to create the best art, right?” – Mal (77:20)

Life Wisdom & Humor

• “Excitement is for rookies. Act like you’ve been here before. Put your game face on.” – Mal (100:51)
• “If I died and you’re my people, you could blame that on me to not go to jail for manslaughter.” – Rory (24:37)
• “Just because you’re a good father doesn’t mean you’re a good partner.” – Damaris (29:15)

Topical/Current Events

• “Coachella is just an influencer weekend … it’s just not what we used to look at the stars.” – Rory (50:27)
• “You can experience everything now with social media, you don’t even have to actually go.” – Mal (53:19)

Jack Harlow & Viral Memes

• “The Neo Soul sorting hat is hilarious.” – Damaris (67:53)
• “Where’s the hat, Jack? That should be the name of his next album.” – Mal (70:27)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 03:46–04:44 – Return to podcast, LA trip recap, "clubbing is trash"
• 06:13–09:02 – Club culture and generational judgment
• 11:05–11:27 – Shout out to Issa Rae’s Somerville restaurant
• 13:05–15:25 – Men’s empowerment and The Last Supper
• 17:07–19:04 – Viral club clip and event etiquette jokes
• 23:06–24:47 – “Flight” movie review, moral dilemmas
• 29:15–29:34 – Parenthood, lying on kids, and relationship ethics
• 31:26–36:42 – Euphoria S3 deep-dive (OnlyFans, cartel, realism)
• 41:39–55:00 – Coachella, Justin Bieber, festival content culture
• 55:42–58:50 – Usher & Chris Brown mega-tour
• 67:45–78:11 – Jack Harlow’s “Neo Soul Sorting Hat,” SNL, ghostwriting
• 83:11–87:43 – Offset shooting incident, gambling, “pay your debts”
• 92:00–97:00 – J. Cole's China basketball saga
• 104:03–106:22 – Michael Jackson movie, family reactions, blanket privacy
• 108:13–110:36 – BET’s “Who’s the Baby Daddy?” & viral potential

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Tone:
Conversational, irreverently insightful, pop-culture-savvy, peppered with pointed humor and self-awareness.

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Summary

This episode of New Rory & MAL serves as a cultural snapshot: wrestling with aging, generational divides in nightlife, the shifting role of music festivals, and the meme-ification of artists like Jack Harlow. The hosts seamlessly blend hilarious roasting, real industry insight, and genuine curiosity—whether reviewing Euphoria’s startlingly adult turn, critiquing festival culture, or pondering the weight of legacy in biopics and ghostwriting.

The tone oscillates between sarcasm and sincerity, keeping both die-hard fans and newcomers entertained and informed, especially with recurring riffs (“men’s empowerment,” “where’s the hat, Jack?”) that will likely continue in future episodes.

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[Damaris]

No worry.

[Rory]

No conductor.

[Damaris]

No worry.

[Rory]

Welcome back. 80 degrees in New York City today. Damaris is dressed very colorful.

[Mal]

Even though it's raining.

[Damaris]

It's not raining.

[Mal]

Who told you that?

[Rory]

I was just outside.

[Damaris]

It's raining out.

[Rory]

I can see the window from here.

[Damaris]

Oh, it's a little sprinkle. It'll stop. Don't worry. It's 80 degrees.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Rory]

It's supposed to. The sun's supposed to come out at 6:00'.

[Mal]

Clock. Yeah. Yeah.

[Rory]

I'm excited.

[Mal]

You are?

[Rory]

Well, it's colder in here than is

[Mal]

outside, but you usually have to run inside once the sun comes out.

[Rory]

I know, but this is. It's overcast. It's a perfect 80 degrees.

[Mal]

You got your long sleeve forming Duck Dynasty shirt.

[Rory]

Oh, the shirt. No, this is Raven's clothing line. Oh, apologize to Raymond.

[Mal]

I couldn't see it. I thought that was the Duck Dynasty.

[Rory]

No.

[Mal]

Yeah, she did shirts like camouflage from this angle.

[Rory]

Her photos.

[Mal]

That she did okay.

[Rory]

But. Yeah. How was. How was last week? I missed you guys.

[Mal]

It was great. I believe you have no idea how.

[Damaris]

Relax.

[Mal]

It was like such a great atmosphere in here.

[Rory]

Do I, do I bring like a chaotic. A chaotic one.

[Mal]

Well, not chaotic, but it get kind of like depressing and school shooter vibes whenever you.

[Rory]

Okay, well that just keeps having on their toes.

[Mal]

Yeah. Come on, man.

[Damaris]

I know.

[Mal]

I'm just saying last week when you weren't here, it's more laid back. It was more.

[Rory]

I leave for a few days, not anyone in this room. But maybe somebody that's part of our staff. Not anyone here. I find out I leave for a few days, they're getting jerked off by strangers. They're going to bath houses, man. Like all order was gone when I left.

[Mal]

I told you, it's great. Whenever you're not here, so many activities happen. People find themselves when you're maxed Me

[Damaris]

to go to lunch. I'm like, oh, it's not that you don't want to be hanging with me, you just don't be wanting to hang with me and Rory. I get it.

[Mal]

I asked you to go to lunch.

[Damaris]

Why you couldn't just roll with.

[Rory]

Oh, God, even every time y' all to go out. I don't go out with you guys. I usually have stuff to do afterwards. Yeah, so let's, let's. Let's live with my reality of it instead of maybe what the truth is.

[Damaris]

Yeah, okay, cool. No problem.

[Rory]

I have things to do. LA was good. LA was la. Video shoot went great. It was, you know, two day shoot, so it was more working than anything. But I did go to Harriet's, and, yeah, I don't know if I'm ever gonna go to a club again. I don't think so.

[Mal]

Oh, now you're finally there. I tried to tell you, man, clubbing is so trash.

[Rory]

But I again, the only time a club will go to highlight room I can take because it's outside in their space. Like, Harriet's is a. Like a club.

[Mal]

That's funny that it's that now because it wasn't like that.

[Rory]

Oh, it was packed. Jam packed in there with a bunch of people born after 2000.

[Mal]

Oh, yeah, no, I'm cool.

[Rory]

It was.

[Mal]

That scares me.

[Rory]

No, it was. It was weird.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And. And I. I wanted to go hug Amara as soon as I got home. No, I saw a lot of. A lot of bad parenting and where it lands people in that spot married a judge. Not everyone that goes to the club is. But listen, man. And then I had a few conversations just for research purposes with like, some of the younger women that were around.

[Mal]

Yeah, you mean you don't see the bat signal in the air when a girl says she has daddy issues?

[Rory]

Oh, yes, I did. But that's not a bad single that I want my daughter to throw up in the sky.

[Mal]

No, no, not you.

[Rory]

I don't want. I don't want Gotham to see.

[Mal]

You don't want that for your daughter. But, you know, whenever a woman is outside the club and she's like, I don't know my daddy, but when the

[Damaris]

would she say that in the club? She's just having a conversation with you

[Rory]

and say, I don't even pick up on it.

[Mal]

Game time.

[Damaris]

Really?

[Rory]

Especially. Especially around the holidays, but you could pick up on it.

[Mal]

The only girls that love going out Christmas Eve to the club. Where's your dad?

[Rory]

And what the biggest red flags for me wasn't strict daddy issues. It was the amount of women that go to the club by themselves. Like, it's odd. Like, you literally just like, you know a promoter.

[Mal]

Like, you went.

[Rory]

You went by yourself. And now, like, the three of y' all are clicked up. Like, oh, how y' all know each other? Oh, we just met tonight.

[Mal]

Those are working girls.

[Rory]

Okay. I mean, I didn't.

[Damaris]

Not true. They're just young girls that want to party. Y' all see a stay on old miserable asses out there.

[Rory]

I wasn't there trying to. I enjoyed myself.

[Damaris]

Y' all in there judging and. And asking where their daddy's at. Stay y' all old ass.

[Rory]

I didn't ask everyone where their father.

[Mal]

Never asked a woman. I never asked a woman where the father was a day in my life. I actually prefer not to know where your father is. I've never actually helped. So where's your dad? You think I've asked a woman that before?

[Rory]

And don't even do that, Damaris. Because these aren't the young girls that. When you were a young girl that were there to try to party. Let's dance. Hear our favorite songs. They're doing nothing. It's not like my old energy is killing the vibe.

[Damaris]

They're enjoying it.

[Rory]

They're doing nothing.

[Damaris]

They're enjoying the music and being. And being cute. And you sitting up there miserable, looking around.

[Rory]

I wasn't. I. Del was there. Chase was there. Like, I saw people I haven't seen in a while. I was having a great time catching up with friends while people watching and observing where the downfall of this country is at.

[Mal]

A woman going to the club by herself with no friends is a red flag. I don't care what you sit behind your desk and tell me the marriage.

[Rory]

Okay?

[Mal]

A woman get dressed, go to the club, and her girls ain't where your homegirls are you going. First of all, that's not safe. Let's start there.

[Rory]

Yep, That's.

[Mal]

It's not even safe to do that.

[Damaris]

Young girls do a lot of shit that ain't safe. We take the subway drunk. We do a bunch of shit that.

[Mal]

Okay, so that. Put that right in that same file cabinet. Going to the club by yourself is not safe.

[Damaris]

No, it's not safe. But I can't lie and say that when I was young, in my 20, 21, 22, and one of my homegirls didn't want to go out with me, and I knew a promoter, and I went and met girls through the promoter, some of them girls still my friends to this day like that. Young girls do like that. Y' all are just old. And of course, you know better. And all wise, old. Wise ones stay our old asses home next to the fire.

[Rory]

I haven't come across that way. I'm just telling you what happened.

[Mal]

I stay out your way.

[Damaris]

You ain't.

[Mal]

You ain't gonna see me in the club. That ain't happening. I ain't going to.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

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[Rory]

And on top of that, like at highlight Room. This is gonna sound like really corny, weird, but Highlight room has a lot of famous people, so I'm.

[Mal]

You're one of them.

[Rory]

No, I'm pretty much left alone at highlight room.

[Mal]

No. Come on. They run down on you.

[Rory]

Those 20 year olds. Those 21 year olds at Harriet's only saw that I had a section and all of a sudden I was desired. When I knew that I was not that desirable that night.

[Mal]

They probably thought you.

[Rory]

I went from the video shoot to there.

[Mal]

They probably thought Canelo.

[Rory]

You think the young 21 year old know who Canelo is?

[Mal]

He saw that?

[Damaris]

No, he thought you was Jack Harlo.

[Mal]

Jack is not a red.

[Rory]

I didn't have the hat. Is he?

[Mal]

Yeah, Jack is a red head, right?

[Rory]

Yeah, sort of. Yeah, he's strawberry blondish, I guess. Or dark, I don't know.

[Mal]

Yeah, he's on there. He's right there. Chocolate covered strawberry.

[Damaris]

Yeah, it was dark in there. They ain't know the difference. You had shades on. I know you had shades on.

[Rory]

No, I didn't.

[Mal]

You know he had his shades on in the club.

[Rory]

I did not.

[Mal]

No, stop, all right? Now, he already said he did not. If I see a picture or video of you in Harriet's highlight room anywhere with shades on, it's going to be a problem.

[Rory]

I didn't go to High Room, but I promise you, I did not have. It was very. It's really dark in Harriet. Like, really dark.

[Mal]

I mean, it's the rooftop.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

I don't know.

[Rory]

It had been a while for me, but I mean, other than that, it was. It was a good trip. Also went to this amazing restaurant, Somerville, which I think Issa has some. Some connection to.

[Mal]

Somerville.

[Rory]

Yeah. On Slauson. Live music. They had collard green lasagna. That Damaris. I made the same face.

[Damaris]

It's her. It's her restaurant. Somerville is her restaurant.

[Rory]

Shout out to aj, who has a part of it as well, that invited Sean and I. It's live music. It's. It's incredible. Like, it's. It's a good date spot. It's a good friends going out spot. And the food is really, really good. Like, I wanted to. To live in that collard green lasagna.

[Mal]

All right. I gotta check it out.

[Rory]

It's really.

[Mal]

Vibes. Shout out to Issa.

[Damaris]

Yeah, you was outside in la. Can't get you outside in New York. It's a whole lot of weird shit going on.

[Rory]

I went. I. I went out one night, and that was after the second day of the video shoot. Before that, I was in bed. I had 6am call times.

[Mal]

I didn't do shit.

[Rory]

But the night before I left, that was it.

[Mal]

That's how you usually supposed to do it, don't you?

[Rory]

Yeah, hell, no.

[Mal]

The night before, just get it all in, see everybody, yo, yo, boom, boom, boom. And then that's it. Straight to the airport.

[Rory]

But it was cool. Video set had friends. Reason came. Simba came, Aunt Clemens came, Homegirl go came. Like it was. Austin came. It was a fun, okay, Fun friend affair.

[Mal]

Yeah, y' all was gang, gang, gang, gang. Yeah, it was a gang bang.

[Damaris]

Oh, no. Okay.

[Mal]

What? That doesn't have to have a negative connotation to it. It was a gang bang, meaning we all friends were just here in the same room. I mean, just banging, hanging and banging. We just hanging and banging. That's all.

[Rory]

Nobody was. Nobody was banging. Nobody was banging a set. It was a gang in a person.

[Mal]

No, it was. No, not banging a person.

[Rory]

But, you know, my son was banging the drums.

[Damaris]

Seven went out. A group of seven went out. And not one out of seven got ass, y'. All. Trash.

[Rory]

It was on my video.

[Damaris]

That's the worst gang ever.

[Mal]

A group of seven men.

[Damaris]

Group of seven men.

[Rory]

Well, that's. That's.

[Damaris]

Nobody went home to ask trash.

[Rory]

Well, that's weird in general. Just. Just seven men going out together. Those are nice things we're not allowed to have. Like, seven girls can go out with.

[Damaris]

No.

[Rory]

Y'.

[Mal]

All. Seven guys. Seven guys. No, you seven men.

[Damaris]

Seven guys can.

[Rory]

Even a four top is a little risky.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Four of the best ones at the table.

[Damaris]

Y' all are too low on yourself.

[Mal]

Gross. Y' all are.

[Damaris]

It's like men's empowerment.

[Mal]

Like, men's empowerment. I don't need to be empowered by. No. Get the out of here. Men's empowerment.

[Rory]

More powerful together.

[Mal]

Get the of here. Men. Them sit at the table, all hating on each other on the low. Oh, men's empowerment. We don't talk about women's empowerment. That's the worst that is women's empowerment might be one of the worst things to come out. Women's empowerment. Cuz some of the women that I see at the empowerment brunches, y' all don't even like each other. How y' all sitting there taking flicks, and I hear how y' all talk about each other when y' all not together.

[Damaris]

The.

[Rory]

The powers from the negativity that they feel better about themselves.

[Mal]

I don't want to go to no. Women's empowerment. Men's empower. Don't empower me. Don't stay over there.

[Damaris]

Who empowers you?

[Mal]

God, Allah. That's who. Who empowers you?

[Damaris]

Me.

[Mal]

Tequila. Reposado. Reposado.

[Damaris]

And what the about it? Yeah.

[Rory]

Side effects may include.

[Mal]

Side effects may include nausea. Yeah.

[Rory]

I will say, though, the last time, like, 13 people got together, someone got crucified. Like, you can't. You can't trust a bunch of men eating dinner together.

[Mal]

And I was.

[Rory]

Someone's gonna die.

[Mal]

Now that I think about it, I would totally have, like, a last supper type of thing and call niggas out there.

[Rory]

Be a killer at the table.

[Mal]

Yeah, call niggas. I know. I know some of y' all don't like me. Some of y' all that are here eating for free and all of that.

[Damaris]

Is it me? Jesus.

[Mal]

Yeah, it's just. It's my vibe. I know some of y' all don't like me. It's cool, though. Eat up. Yeah, enjoy.

[Rory]

You think it was separate checks?

[Mal]

For sure. The Last Supper? Definitely. Niggas was arguing. That's what the picture is about. Like, yo, who had this?

[Rory]

Who had this?

[Mal]

I had this. That's what the whole pict. Like. Like, yo, who had that? I'm paper.

[Rory]

He was the only one that ate the mozzarella.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

We be putting too much, like, behind these. It ain't that Them was at the table arguing about who ordered what and who ate what. That's what that whole Was about.

[Damaris]

Said the calculator out.

[Mal]

Yeah, like, he trying to get me paid for his this

[Rory]

and they gas. Ain't no way he knew it's his last day. It wasn't just, you know, thrashing out. Mary. What's. What's the. The name that. It was his wife.

[Damaris]

Why are you so freaked out?

[Rory]

She was legitimately a. Yeah, no, I'm

[Damaris]

not like, why are you bringing her up?

[Mal]

She was there because that.

[Rory]

That's not against. Yeah, the conspiracy is that she was taken out of the photo. They've even, like, traced and found her in it. That was taken out. Like, I. I think he would, like. If you knew you were gonna get.

[Mal]

That's what we would say.

[Rory]

He was like, you ain't get some ass. Like, I'm not trying to hang with the fellas tonight.

[Mal]

He bought this hoe. That's why I see here.

[Rory]

Oh, we bringing pluses. I didn't know that. I would have brought mine.

[Mal]

It was supposed to be just the fellas. Here come this.

[Rory]

Killing the vibe.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Mary Magdalene.

[Damaris]

Y' all are going to hell.

[Mal]

It's okay. It's warm down there.

[Rory]

And no, I'm not. Because after that dinner solidified that I. I will not.

[Damaris]

Jesus died for your sins.

[Rory]

I'm a Catholic. True and through.

[Mal]

True and through.

[Rory]

Peace be with you.

[Damaris]

Also with you.

[Mal]

And also with you. Check us out on Netflix.

[Rory]

Yes, if you're listening on audio, we are on Netflix. You can see BTS intros and all fun stuff. And we just look good on. On Netflix.

[Mal]

Yeah, man. Come on.

[Damaris]

Yeah. I ain't gonna lie. I can see what shorts I got on right now.

[Mal]

What?

[Damaris]

On Netflix, they can see the shorts I got on.

[Mal]

Oh, yeah.

[Rory]

So

[Damaris]

through the table.

[Mal]

Through the table. Netflix can see through the table. That's what's up. I didn't even know that that's how

[Rory]

crisp the 1080p is. That is crazy. 4k everything see through tables on there, but not really. How was the week? I saw the clips. I was busy. The clips were very funny. I laughed. Damaris is funny. I really laughed at that clip. If you're a fucking mall right now and you don't get a ticket, I really laughed out loud on the plane.

[Mal]

That was just full of hate. Wasn't it? Wasn't it?

[Damaris]

I know.

[Rory]

More clicking.

[Damaris]

I felt bad later. I'm like, damn, yo. Cause like, I know multiple bitches is like, yo. Like, yeah, she got a point.

[Rory]

My favorite part was Biggs. She got a point. Biggs.

[Mal]

Like, she got a point.

[Damaris]

Memphis Bleak laughed and said, nah, she foul. Like, I know you can't get tickets, but, like, we. I'm still gonna try to get my the.

[Mal]

That was hate. I just want to point that out. That that was hate. It was a little.

[Damaris]

It was cocky.

[Mal]

I can't wait to the next burgers and bottles. Watch how I do you. Watch how I do you. Yo, don't do that if you eating Damaris box and you can't get a burger or bottle.

[Rory]

Don't do that if you in her burger and not getting a burger.

[Mal]

Don't do that if you in her buns, you can't get. No, I can't wait. I can't wait for the next burgers to pop.

[Rory]

You ain't popping her pork.

[Mal]

Yeah, no popping, yo, I cannot wait. I can't wait. The next one.

[Damaris]

Baby D, relax.

[Rory]

It's coming to New York.

[Damaris]

It's June.

[Mal]

This is first. First right around the corner. So it's. It's burgers and bottles, and it's. Oh, oh, I can't wait.

[Damaris]

Please relax.

[Rory]

Thank you. So, yeah, I know you would never talk to multiple people at once, but never. Now that you, like, are part of an event, you got to take your pick, yo, of, like, who could be there.

[Mal]

It gets. It gets sticky when them same niggas walk in together.

[Damaris]

I'm working.

[Mal]

I don't. They love to be working.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

If you saw me with my earpiece on and palooza, I was working.

[Damaris]

Yeah, yo, I used to. I used to be like, yo, worry, can you get me backstage? Nah. Click.

[Mal]

I'm working.

[Damaris]

Hang on. Me.

[Mal]

Yeah, I'm working.

[Rory]

Yeah, I'm working. Yeah, to walk, young man. Yeah.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Why did y' all kill me so much for that? For years.

[Mal]

No, because it was just the. It was the power walk that you had to make sure she got to the stage and we were late. No, no, I get it. Like, look at. I understand it, but it's always funny when your boys. You see your boy actually working, it's like, yo, what is bum ass? Yo, take this earpiece out your head. You don't like the kick, can hear you be like, that's what we do. When you see your boys working, doing. You gotta crack jokes.

[Rory]

Hey, after I got younger, me on stage, Asia came up, said you didn't think she knew where the stage was.

[Mal]

You didn't think she would have found it. She knows exactly where the stage is at, bro.

[Rory]

They can see you can turn a microphone on. That problem.

[Mal]

Yeah, man, but it's always fun making fun of your friends at work.

[Rory]

Oh, absolutely. That's the funniest.

[Mal]

Gotta do that.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

So you was watching our clips to make sure we did a good job in your absence?

[Rory]

No, I'm a. A fan of you guys. Oh, okay. Yeah, I was laughing. The clips were great. I do want to watch the full episodes now that I'm back home.

[Damaris]

Yeah, Zip did a good job saying Free Keefe D just to, you know, spite Jada is a little crazy, but,

[Mal]

you know, that had me dying. Freaky feeding. What? Zip is crazy.

[Rory]

That's. That's so so many sick layers to that entire thing.

[Damaris]

Like, when he said it, I was just kind of like, damn, do we take this out?

[Mal]

Like, I was like, hell, no.

[Rory]

This is crazy.

[Mal]

People need to hear that.

[Rory]

I just. Just saw a clip a few minutes ago, a Will Smith talking to Martin Lawrence saying he likes to pee sitting down. And I was like, I think we could have guessed that.

[Mal]

Come on, man.

[Rory]

That's, like, not a shocker to us.

[Mal]

They say you actually are supposed to peace it down on men, though, because it helps you relax and actually empty out.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mal]

You know, I mean, but I don't usually pee sitting down unless I got to take a.

[Rory]

Well, I mean, tmi. But my state of my cousin's house, and he has the squatty potty thing, the grace. I should have listened to you. Greatest seven years ago.

[Mal]

The greatest. I'm trying to.

[Damaris]

You have autumn problems. I thought you would have been. Got a squatty.

[Rory]

I. I just. I was in my head about it of, like, having my legs up.

[Sponsor Voice]

You feel.

[Rory]

You actually feel empowered, bro.

[Mal]

It's the best ever. It's the best. Literally, it's the best.

[Rory]

Like, I'm in. I'm in control.

[Mal]

It is the best.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

You will ever take. Is with a squatty potty.

[Rory]

You ever get on a plane as a kid and they let you see, like, the cockpit? Yeah, like that. It was the same feeling as an adult, like, when I got in there. And how you're sitting.

[Mal]

Yeah. It's like, knees up, you relax. It's like, oh, this just. It's like somebody just hit a button and. Oh, yeah, I don't have to sit here until my legs get numb anymore.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

You know what I mean?

[Damaris]

If you hug your knees, like, really, like, hug your knees, it's great.

[Mal]

There's a theory going around that you're not supposed to do that on planes.

[Rory]

Take a shit. I agree.

[Mal]

No, well, that too. But that the whole abrasive impact when they tell you to put your head down like that actually is designed to probably kill you more than it is to. To help you survive. Because if your head and neck goes into the seat in front of you. Yeah. They had. They. They did some reports saying that when people survived crashes on planes, most people that survived were sitting upright and were asleep usually. Yeah. So.

[Damaris]

Because when you're.

[Rory]

Who's been asleep during a plane crash? Yeah, Like, I know. It happens quick, please tell me who's who was knocked.

[Damaris]

I would be knocked.

[Mal]

I sleep on a flight, but I'm not gonna be. If I hear panicking Yelling. You think I'm gonna be like, I missed the.

[Damaris]

Miss the turbulence. I miss everything. I'll be.

[Mal]

Nah, I ain't gonna lie. Certain turbulence wake you up, though?

[Rory]

Hell, yeah.

[Mal]

Certain turbulence. I don't care. I sleep when I wake up, I'll flip that visor right up, make sure we still good. All right. As long as I don't see kind of leaning and we got, like, all right, what we doing? All right. Just a little air pocket. That ain't nothing.

[Rory]

And I. I do the same thing. Why? Like, what are we looking for? The cloud we have.

[Mal]

Yeah. I need to know. I need to know. You gotta kind of. It's like when the elevator's going down, you got to know when to jump right before it hits the floor.

[Rory]

Yeah. It's like turning.

[Mal]

A plane is going down. I need to know, like, which side is going to hit first. Like, are we leaning to my side or them over there? Like, I need to know.

[Rory]

I mean, I get the brakes for impact, but you are in, like, a speeding bullet full of fuel.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's all right. I take my chances.

[Rory]

Hit the way you want.

[Mal]

Roll it the way you want.

[Rory]

Get comfortable.

[Mal]

Either way, it's gonna hurt.

[Rory]

A few minutes to yourself.

[Mal]

Yeah, get comfortable. Get comfortable. Yeah.

[Rory]

You like the leg?

[Mal]

Like, listen, man, take your pants off. Do whatever you feel like you got to do in these last 30 seconds.

[Rory]

Man, take your pants off. Take.

[Mal]

Get naked. Do whatever you got.

[Damaris]

You think a plane will take, like, 30 seconds to crash? I feel like it would, like, take longer.

[Mal]

No, it depends how high where you at, you know? This is variables.

[Rory]

Yeah. Denzel flying, you go inverted. Keep us up.

[Mal]

Great movie. Don't do that. It's a great movie.

[Rory]

I love Flight. I think it's ironic they put it on planes now. Like, that's the wildest. When I saw a flight on a flight, I was like, this is all right.

[Damaris]

What's flight about? I never saw it.

[Mal]

You never saw Flight with Denzel?

[Rory]

Denzel is a pilot that's also an alcoholic, and. Oh, so he's. He's drinking on the plane, and the plane breaks. Not because he's an alcoholic. It just breaks.

[Mal]

Yeah. Something went wrong, and he had to, like, he actually saved, like, the people on board with his skills to be able to, like, flip the plane upside down and kind of glide.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

And, like, you know, landed as safely as possible. And some. Some people died on the flight, but he saved most of the people on board. But then they found out, obviously, he got. He. Because he. It knocked him out he was in the hospital, naturally, they gotta. They gotta. They gotta take your blood alcohol. You know, I mean, like, that's just a part of the protocol. And they found that he had alcohol and something during the flight. So it's like, okay.

[Rory]

And coke.

[Mal]

And coke. So, like, okay, was it that or was like, something wrong with the flight? And he was like, nah, something was wrong with the flight. Like, I actually was able to save people even though I was, you know, so it was good. It's a great movie, though, and I

[Rory]

don't want to spoil too much, but it's been out forever, so you're gonna have to get a spoiler on it. They also found, like, three little Smirnoff bottles that he was drinking, like, on the plane, but he was also one of the flight attendants. And she also had coke and alcohol in her system. But she died. But she died saving some kids. And all Denzel had to do. His lawyers blame it on her.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And then, yeah, Denzel had to have like, some moral revelation during the. The hearing.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Because you need to take. Because if you don't take accountability for your actions and you. You'll keep going. You need to have a rest.

[Rory]

Kind of the theme. The. The plane crash happens in the first two minutes of the movie. Like, they get that out the way right away.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Rory]

The movie is about what you're talking about. It's taking accountability of addiction.

[Mal]

And I've seen mad people take accountability and keep doing the same. So, like that.

[Rory]

Don't they think that's the step that cleans.

[Mal]

No, no, no. Accountability don't mean it that you stop

[Damaris]

doing what you do, saying, I'm sorry,

[Rory]

not doing that behavior anymore.

[Mal]

Yeah, accountability. That don't mean.

[Rory]

I will. I will say, though, in that situation, if. If I died and you're my. My people, you could blame that on me to not go to jail for manslaughter. Yeah, blame that on me, man.

[Mal]

Yeah, put that on me. If it's to keep you out of

[Rory]

jail, I'm going go find a rehab or some.

[Mal]

But yeah, you know, put it on me. It's okay. I'm not going to be mad at you from. From the grave. Who gives a. Yeah, but don't su.

[Damaris]

Yeah, okay, I hear you.

[Mal]

Don't. What?

[Damaris]

Nothing. When you lying to your.

[Rory]

Don't swear on me if I'm lying to me.

[Damaris]

When you lie and see a Don't be like, word of the marriage. Don't swear on me.

[Mal]

Why you dead?

[Rory]

Oh, I didn't.

[Damaris]

You dead. Yeah, I'M dead. Don't.

[Mal]

What difference do it make?

[Damaris]

Cause I'm not about to be getting electrocuted in the grave every time you lie on my body.

[Mal]

Don't happens. That don't happen.

[Damaris]

How you know you ain't never died

[Mal]

before, man, them don't feel nothing in that grave, man. What you talking about?

[Damaris]

You ain't never died before.

[Mal]

How you know, Yo?

[Rory]

What you. Jesus died for our sins. So we be like, yo, on God.

[Mal]

On God. Oh, God, I'm lying right now.

[Rory]

That's what Jesus had the dinner for.

[Mal]

Yeah. That's what your friends supposed to do.

[Damaris]

Lying on your dad, grandmother, Grandma just unraveling in the cash.

[Mal]

And Grandma know my heart. She know. She know her grandson.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

And that's what grandma's are for.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Lion. Grandma put it on Granny, son. It's okay. What else is a grandmother for these men?

[Rory]

Is your grandmother alive?

[Mal]

Ah, come on, huh?

[Damaris]

Is your grandmother alive?

[Mal]

No, I don't have none of my grandparents.

[Damaris]

Did you have them, like, in your lifetime?

[Mal]

Well, I was very young when my mom's mom died. I was like, maybe almost two.

[Damaris]

Yeah. That's why you don't respect grandparents.

[Mal]

No, I respect grandparents. I just know that my grandmother would not be mad if I put some lies on her to get me out of some shit. Go on, baby, put it on me.

[Rory]

And for the last five years of my grandmother's life, she had dementia, so she ain't know no better.

[Mal]

Oh, that's even. That's like a. That's a. That's a flash pass at Six Flags. Flash pass for lies right there. Grandma don't even know what's happening.

[Rory]

And then if she even telling me, like, she's cynical. She don't. She has no idea what's even going on.

[Mal]

That's what Granny's there for. Give me a hug and then lie on her. Come on. It's okay.

[Rory]

I know people that have killed their grandparents multiple times in stories, and they're still alive.

[Mal]

See, I don't. I don't go that far.

[Rory]

No, that's sick.

[Mal]

I don't do that. But I'll be like, no, I was talking. Went to my grandmother house. Like, no, I didn't.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I hate when people, like, lie on, like, they're like kids or like, I remember I was dating this guy, and, like, we were on a date, and when I went through his phone later, he had said, like, he had

[Mal]

told me, stop right there. Stop right there. Don't just gloss over that. Why did you go through that boy's phone.

[Damaris]

Cause he was going through mine. Now back to what I was saying.

[Mal]

So y' all just go through each other's phone. That was a part of y' all relationship. Like, did y' all know? Or y' all was sneaking on through each other's phone? Like, how you know he went through your phone? Like, he said he went through it.

[Damaris]

I woke up and he was going through it.

[Mal]

You woke up and he was just still sitting there scrolling. He ain't even throw the phone to try to.

[Rory]

Like, he was. He was caught.

[Damaris]

Ain't nothing really.

[Mal]

That's sick. Your girl wake up while you going through her phone and you keep scrolling. You supposed to throw the phone and get under the blanket. Like, sitting up, still scrolling.

[Damaris]

Bro, the phone is mad hot. Like, you can't sit up there and just be.

[Mal]

All right, well, I don't know why it's high. Your battery is up.

[Rory]

Like, I woke up and looked, and he was.

[Damaris]

He was scroll. I noticed him before he noticed me. It was too late. The point is, he had told this girl that. That his. He was like, oh. She was like, why you not answering your phone? You're being weird. He was on a date with me, and he was like, no, my daughter's sick. I was like that. Don't ever do that again. Don't lie on that, baby.

[Mal]

Oh, yeah. Oh, he said his daughter's sick?

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Oh, yeah. No, he tripping. Don't do that.

[Rory]

I haven't done that yet. But I'm not saying I'm not above it. I'm not.

[Mal]

Definitely not above.

[Rory]

I'm not above it.

[Mal]

That's.

[Rory]

Isn't that kind of the point of, like, a benefit of having a child that you could just.

[Damaris]

A daddy. Oh, you lying. Y' all lie for your kids all day now. I got my daughter. I got my. You do not have your daughter. You don't.

[Mal]

But I think if you're a good dad, like, you're in your kids lives, you can lie on your kids. Like, if he says Amara's sick, nine times out of ten, Amara's gonna be sick in a minute. Like, that's what kids get past germs. They get sick.

[Damaris]

So he does he technically not lying.

[Mal]

He's. Technically. She's not sick today.

[Rory]

Well, she actually is Thursday. She stayed out from school today. Actually. She's sick.

[Mal]

Come on. Look at the universe. You kidding me?

[Rory]

And, like, she can. You know, she can talk, but she can't talk talk. I'm just assuming she's sick. Yeah, she didn't Tell me. But I could just. You know, I don't have confirmation, but

[Damaris]

I think her forehead was hot.

[Mal]

Yeah, she laughs. She has. You know.

[Rory]

You hear that?

[Mal]

And hear that vibration in her throat when she laughs, that cough. You know, cold is coming. That's what kids do.

[Damaris]

I'm not dating no more fathers. You are horrible.

[Mal]

Horrible how if I'm in my child's life, if I take care of my child, and I just put my little lie on my kid.

[Damaris]

Just because you're a good father doesn't mean, like, you're a good partner. You could be a terrible boyfriend, terrible person. But be a good father.

[Rory]

What's wor. I lie on Amara a few times saying she's sick and I'm a great father, or I don't, and she ends up at Harriet's in 20 years.

[Damaris]

Amara probably will go to Harriet's in 20 years and enjoy her life.

[Rory]

We'll all be gone. This world will be blown up by that.

[Damaris]

Oh, my God. You think.

[Rory]

Think Harriet's will be a thing in 20 years? You think clubbing will be a thing? She'll be survival. We're gonna be living paradise for real.

[Damaris]

Niggas will find a way to party. And every fucking, like, end of the world movie show that you ever seen found a way to shake some ass. Like, yeah, partying will survive.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah, Absolutely. You got to back to the last supper. I'm about to die. It's about. All right, let's party.

[Mal]

Yeah, let's have something to eat, some wine, call some hoes.

[Rory]

Just lit the killers at the table.

[Mal]

Yeah, I know. I know. Y' all don't like.

[Rory]

It's, like, paid in full.

[Mal]

It was paid in full.

[Rory]

Chinese. Chinese food. That's the last supper. It's the same thing.

[Damaris]

Sins were paid in full of that.

[Rory]

That. Speaking of TV shows, did you guys watch first episode of Euphoria?

[Mal]

No, I didn't see it yet.

[Rory]

I. I watched it this morning.

[Mal]

How was it?

[Rory]

I. Okay.

[Mal]

I give thumbs down. He gives thumbs down.

[Rory]

It's not bad. It's just the first time. Season one and two is about high school kids in high school with different high school storylines. Now they're out, and I don't know where they're going to take the show.

[Mal]

That's fair.

[Rory]

Like, Ru is. She's a fucking drug. Like, is this about to be a Mexican cartel show, or is this gonna be the ice? Like, I don't know where they're gonna go with it. I really didn't mind it. Why? I'm not Shitting on it the way other people are is. Cause the storylines are completely new now and haven't developed. Everyone has a different storyline. I hope they don't lean too much into like all the onlyfans. I think their writing's above that. Like save that for other shows. But it wasn't bad. It's just doing a lot like one. One girl works in Hollywood. One's a drug mule, one's a housewife that wants to do only fans. One's a construction. Like it's, it's weird. Everyone's just doing their own thing and I don't know where they're going to take it. That's all.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Rory]

There was a lot going on.

[Mal]

That's the first episode. So you got to give it time to kind of just build into the new characters. Well, not new characters, but the new lives of the characters.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

And where they are and I mean that's not far fetched to go to high school with someone and then a couple years out of high school you find out they would now work for the cartel though.

[Rory]

Oh no, no, that's on brand.

[Damaris]

Makes sense to me.

[Mal]

It makes sense to me. I know a few of them.

[Rory]

That's what I'm saying. They, they did do a good job of everyone from that high school. Kind of representing a different person that you went to high school with and what they ended up doing.

[Mal]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

Like again, one was a housewife right out the gate and one took over his father's construction business. Same high school. Now she's literally swallowing fentanyl and running across the border. There you go. Like. Yeah, no, I mean it's, it's accurate with people. You go to high school. Yeah.

[Mal]

They got to let it, let this, let the story unfold.

[Damaris]

And it's a five year time jump the actors and actresses have. They're like older than they were when the show first started. Like, that's, that's tough.

[Rory]

Yeah, I mean they all still, they also look the same. Like it's Hollywood makeup. Everyone looks like they just graduated from when they were in high school.

[Mal]

But seven years from high.

[Rory]

Well, they looked older when they were in high. I'm saying they all just look the same.

[Mal]

Yeah, but seven years, you don't really look that different from high school.

[Damaris]

But they weren't high school age when they were playing.

[Mal]

That's what I'm saying.

[Rory]

They all look the same still. They looked way older than what they should have been for high school or at least when I went to high school. That's not what kids look like. Maybe they do now with makeup, but they have a crazy scene in there where. For when her friend swallow the fentanyl balloons, like a whole bowl of them. And that process. Yeah, I had to, like, look away.

[Damaris]

Really.

[Rory]

I cannot believe.

[Mal]

Like, I had to look away.

[Damaris]

Stop. He got queasy.

[Mal]

I had to look away. Shut the out.

[Rory]

No, it's. Mr. If you like. The only time I want to hear gag is when I'm getting hit. Like, it was just so gross.

[Mal]

And fucking swallowing fentanyl balloons.

[Rory]

They were just like this fucking big.

[Mal]

You had to look away, though.

[Rory]

They dragged the scene, right? Like. No, they went extra. Like, they went extra in with.

[Damaris]

It's a HBO scene, so they probably did make it extra disgusting on purpose.

[Mal]

Like they were throwing up and shit, basically.

[Rory]

Yeah. And then, like, they.

[Mal]

Then.

[Rory]

Because they have to drive from Mexico back to California and they can't. Yeah, it's just the scene. Then she ends up herself and the dog starts licking the.

[Mal]

And then the dogs.

[Rory]

No spoilers.

[Damaris]

But there you go, spoiling the whole damn show.

[Rory]

I mean, I'm not. It's not anything that's.

[Mal]

Yeah, I'll probably skip that anyway. I don't want to see dogs.

[Rory]

And then, you know, they. In, like, the strainer.

[Mal]

Yeah. They got to get the balloon.

[Rory]

And then right when the scene cuts, the. They cut to the strainer and spaghetti goes in it as if. Now they're eating dinner with the same.

[Mal]

Oh, got it.

[Rory]

Yeah, it's just a lot that, like,

[Mal]

we didn't need that.

[Rory]

That scene just.

[Mal]

Yeah, we didn't need that. We didn't need that visual detail.

[Rory]

I mean, it did. I've never thought about drug mules before and, like, the process. Of course, I've heard of people swallowing things and shitting them out, but I never thought of how hard that process must be because it was a full bowl.

[Mal]

Would you ever be a drug mule? The marriage, if somebody was like, listen, you take this across the border, we give you 800, 000.

[Damaris]

No, that wouldn't.

[Mal]

You wouldn't do it.

[Damaris]

I'm a scary. I'm really scary.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Damaris]

No, I've bought drugs out of the country before, but no, you know, you

[Mal]

get the same penalty. They're gonna kill you either way.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I know.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Rory]

But, like, yeah, we don't have to trade you for another terrorist.

[Mal]

Yeah, we got hosed in that deal. I still don't know.

[Rory]

Worst deal of all time.

[Mal]

I don't know what Brittany Grind is averaging. I still don't know what she's average. I just said, I don't know. What are her. Like, can we pull the numbers up? What has she averaged since the trade? Like, I'm just saying. I don't know.

[Rory]

I don't need another merchant of Death from Guantanamo Bay for demerit. Like, I just. I don't need that tr.

[Damaris]

I mean, I would be worth it.

[Rory]

It's a lot going on.

[Damaris]

I wouldn't be worth it. The Merchant of Death.

[Mal]

No, like the safety of the world. Yeah.

[Damaris]

Oh, the world's been fine. What is the Merchant of Death? What's his numbers since he got released?

[Rory]

He's pretty high.

[Mal]

Yeah. He's. He's putting up not just.

[Rory]

There was a reason. Reason he was doing life.

[Mal]

Okay. She averaged 18 and 7 in 2023.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mal]

I'm telling you, she averaged 10 and 5.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mal]

Numbers slipping a little bit, but. All right.

[Rory]

He averages 18 per second.

[Mal]

Yeah. Of deaths responsible for his numbers are up there for sure.

[Rory]

But. Yeah. Everyone should check out Euphoria.

[Mal]

I'm gonna check it out.

[Rory]

I was kind of shocked that people were on it. Like. Like they were.

[Damaris]

Why would you be shocked? The Internet loves to hate things.

[Rory]

I know. Sometimes it's fun to enjoy shows.

[Damaris]

Yeah. That concept everybody was looking for, they were on the trailer. I don't need to see this, Ryan. Thank you.

[Rory]

I'm telling. It's a. It's a lot.

[Damaris]

They were on the trailer when it came out. They were like. It's not like, glittery and euphoric like it was before. People just don't like change, so. They don't like change. They don't like. When you say the same. You can't make everybody happy.

[Rory]

I mean, the. The only way I want. The only fans want to keep going is like. Like, if they show hold, they. They have a really cool rollout thing that they could do right now. They could really make Sydney Sweeney do an Only fans.

[Mal]

She's doing that for a different role, like a movie.

[Rory]

Oh, all right. She can double up and play both characters, but make it real. But, yeah, they gotta. I mean, you gotta show hold. If you're trying to keep it as real as Euphoria always has, you gotta show hold. If you're doing only F. Only fans. Roll on Euphoria. You just.

[Damaris]

Oh. They said Jacob Elordi was phoning it in. They're like, he's not. He's not dedicated to the role anymore because of. You know, he's done a lot.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Since that role.

[Rory]

But again, give it some time. Who knows?

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

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[Rory]

But real life euphoria. Coachella. Coachella to me is real life euphoria.

[Damaris]

Oh, for sure.

[Rory]

Like you, you're walking into the set of, of Euphoria when you're at Coachella. Did anyone watch any live streams? Any. Any of the clips I watched Biebs Beebs is the one that I saw as well. I didn't see anything else. What, what did you think about the Bieber thing? Was it lazy or was it creative?

[Damaris]

I think it could be a mixture of both. But I was seeing rumors that because Scooter Brown owns his catalog, he could only perform his old songs through YouTube. YouTube? I don't know how accurate that is.

[Rory]

Yeah, I know a lot of artists that are in really shitty deals and still can perform.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So their stuff even on live streams that are free.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I thought, all right, I can totally understand someone that is looking for a Coachella full on performance. I, I can happily see someone going, yo, I paid this much money and the headliner needs to put on a show. But it did kind of adapt to the times. Like I think that is kind of cool to sit and watch your favorite artist go through his YouTube. Like this is what society is now. Like we watch streamers that just do that all day too of like pull up stuff and like, I think it was a cool way that we've never seen a superstar do something like that.

[Damaris]

And that wasn't his full performance.

[Rory]

No, of course there was, there was great set design. But yeah, I thought it was a cool add on. And to watch someone that's been famous forever go back to their old videos and like, I don't know. I, I think it matches the times. I'll say that if you hate it, I get it. But it matches 20, 26, what younger people do all day. So I, I didn't think it was that bad. If it was the whole set, then I've been like, all right, man.

[Mal]

I don't know if I've ever seen a Justin Bieber performance that was like incredible though.

[Damaris]

He's, that's not him.

[Mal]

Like, like I've never seen. I, I'm just sitting there, I'm trying to think like I've never seen a Justin and Justin is, he's dope, he's an incredible artist. But I've never seen a performance of his and was like, yo, that was the production, the stage, everything like was incredible. I don't know if I've ever. The songs are dope, but they performing. But he Sounds good live, but.

[Rory]

Well, I mean, you guys know how I feel about the Grammys Yukon performance. But I hear what you're saying, like, if you were to go to an Usher show, a Chris Brown show.

[Mal]

Yeah. Like, it's not on that level.

[Rory]

I don't know if that's always been, like, Biebs strongest.

[Mal]

No, he's just like the. The handsome white boy who plays guitar. You know, he has tats. He looks like he just ran out of 711 from getting a big Slurpee.

[Rory]

His new look looks like he could be on you.

[Mal]

Yeah, it's just like, all right, cool. And it's like, oh, he can actually. He can sing. But it's never been a wow. Performance from Justin Bieber. I've never seen a Justin Bieber performance where I was like, wow, like, that guy is somebody I need to go see on tour. Like, yeah. And he has the records. Like, the records are incredible. But his stage performance has never been.

[Damaris]

So.

[Mal]

I don't understand why people were that upset by it. I was like, I don't know if I've ever seen a Justin Bieber performance where it was like, he really moved the needle with that one.

[Rory]

I hear you.

[Mal]

He might have moved the needle with this one if we were keeping it real nice.

[Rory]

And when we were having that initial Justin Bieber conversation after the Grammys where I was saying, he needs to be brought up in that pop star conversation, I will say is his Achilles heel in that conversation would be live performance.

[Damaris]

Performance.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, talent wise. Yeah. He checks every box over there. But yeah. I don't know if there's been that one tour that, I mean, maybe to. To. Well, they're probably not young anymore, but the people that were 10 years old when Justin Bieber came out with Baby, I don't know, maybe one of those tours is huge to them, but I. I've never also seen one that was like, holy.

[Mal]

Yeah. Like, I don't know. I mean, great music, great songs. But I don't know if this live performance is the one that we're supposed to look at. Like, oh, he's supposed to set the bar. Like, I just don't look at Justin

[Rory]

for that because I like the Yukon performance so much. That's Maybe that's why I liked some of that

[Mal]

underwear. Yeah, you enjoyed that.

[Rory]

I. That live. No, not the performance of him in his underwear. That. That audio. Like, him singing that version of Yukon. I. I play that in, like, the car.

[Mal]

Acoustic version.

[Rory]

Yeah. And without the pitch, because he has pitched up on the album. Which I don't mind, but hearing his actual voice on it. I play that version of anymore. But, like, I closed my YouTube app, my network, and I'm not in the car, like, looking at bees.

[Damaris]

You propped the phone up on a

[Rory]

dash, putting the phone on the dash to watch Justin Bieber in his underwear,

[Mal]

and he zoom in. Yep. Like, I think we got fur. This from fur. Oh, my God. He's looking for fur.

[Damaris]

I like it without the p.

[Rory]

Thieves is waxed.

[Mal]

He's waxed and vaxed. Yeah, I like, he's waxed and back.

[Rory]

But maybe that's why I like the YouTube, like, stripped down version of Bees, because I think that's cooler and it highlights how good his voice is because again, he's not the. He can dance sort of. But yeah, not the way like Chris Brown.

[Mal]

He's not Justin Timberlake. Yeah, but you know, he's, you know,

[Rory]

But I mean, that's. That's all I saw with Coachella. Was there any other highlights? Again, I was working during all of the Coachella. Was there, you think?

[Mal]

I didn't see none of it.

[Damaris]

I saw Kehlani on stage with Givon performing, folded. That's a highlight to me. I don't know about the rest of the world.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah, of course.

[Damaris]

Do you guys think Coachella is falling off or like, losing. Losing its appeal?

[Mal]

Everything is losing its appeal. Nothing has much allure anymore. I mean, when it comes to this type of. We see. We've seen everything. Like, what else can we. Like, Kanye literally had to cut the world in half and bring it into the Sofi stadium for us to be like, wow, that was great. Like, you know what I'm saying? If you're not doing that, like, if your level of production is not that. That, it's like, we've seen it already. Like, what is.

[Damaris]

I think that's might be the issue with Coachella too. I think Bchella kind of up, like, afterwards, like, because Coachella didn't used to be the headliners. Didn't used to be this huge, huge production. And then she did that and it's

[Rory]

like, no, they did, but nothing can really compare to that. Yeah, but yeah, they used to. It was still a big thing.

[Damaris]

I mean, it was a bit. I'm not. I'm talking about, like. I'm not talking about big as in, like, I'm talking about. Obviously it was big and they had big headliners, but as far as production wise of the show, it was not like a huge thing. Yeah, I get.

[Rory]

I feel like there's like, not very many moments left, and maybe that falls on the superstar being gone and all the other stuff that we talk about within the music industry. Coachella's great for moments. Like, Frank Ocean was a. Oh, my God, he's headlining. We get a great moment. It's unfortunate that his performance ended up sucking weekend one one, and he didn't even show up weekend two. But moments aren't really there anymore. Like, what would be a big moment of even nostalgic artists that you'd be like, oh, we gotta go see that Usher, Chris Brown together.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I mean, they have the tour. I could see that being a thing.

[Mal]

Look. That's what niggas gotta do. Gotta do like that. Yeah. Usher and Chris Brown.

[Rory]

Look at. Look at what a list legends have to do. Keep up.

[Mal]

Well, not. But not them two. They. They. They went on double battle and have done incredible shows themselves. But I think that them announcing a joint tour together is like, damn. I don't know if we've two R and B acts like this. Have we ever had this?

[Rory]

I don't think at this level.

[Damaris]

No.

[Rory]

No, Definitely not.

[Mal]

This is crazy.

[Rory]

Do you think artists at that level still have that Coachella checklist thing in their brain?

[Mal]

I don't know if Usher or Chris Brown really care about Coachella, because that

[Rory]

could be a thing, too. I don't know if. If the artists that are going to create the huge moments are really have that, like, on their whiteboard every year. Like, you know what? For my career, I got to win a Grammy. I got to. I got to do. I have to do my world tour. I have to do Coachella. I don't know if that's, like, on everyone's board anymore.

[Damaris]

I doubt it.

[Mal]

$10 million.

[Rory]

I mean, of course, $10 million would. Yes. What they pay. That'll get it done is great.

[Mal]

That'll get me to Coachella. 10, you say I'll be there. I don't know if Chris and Usher really. I'm pretty sure they got it. They've. They've definitely been offered Coachella before.

[Rory]

They both haven't done. I mean, Chris goes to Coachella every year. He hasn't done it before.

[Mal]

I think he's. He's def. He's definitely been offered to do it, without a doubt. I think we can pretty much guarantee that Chris Brown has been offered a Coachella headline before. Like, what hasn't Chris Brown had offered before? Like, so we know that he just probably just doesn't. Didn't. Obviously.

[Damaris]

Didn't.

[Mal]

Didn't. Do it.

[Rory]

So Usher has appeared on Coachella, but he was a special guest, not a headliner. Yeah. Next year, Chris Brown and Usher coming off their tour. I can see that being a moment, like in the desert ushering Chris Brown. I think. Yes. That that brings some allure back to Coachella, at least in our world.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

But either way, Coachella's become. I think we're thinking of music allure. Coachella is just an influencer weekend. Like, it's just. It has a lore. It's just not a lore that we desert new mushrooms. Yeah. Like, it's still there. It's just not what we used to

[Mal]

look at the stars.

[Damaris]

I don't even think it's that. I think we like many things. We've aged out of it. And I hate when people say things. Oh, it's just for influencers now. Just because you see all your favorite influencers there does not mean there's hundreds of. Of thousands of however many people that are there that are just normal people who.

[Rory]

Oh, no, no, no. I. I agree to him saying that the lore of it is even people going to see their influencers that are just happen to be there and, like, it's become just a content weekend. Even if you're just a regular.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Person that doesn't do that. You're. You're mainly there to do content. Okay, listen, I. I went to Coachella when Emotional Oranges was. Yeah. I mean, nobody was off their phone. I. I'll put it that way.

[Damaris]

But I mean, I just feel like that's.

[Rory]

That's.

[Damaris]

That's just how the world is now. Even when you go to a concert now, people aren't influencers because they have their phone out. They're just normal people recording the concert.

[Rory]

Yeah, but there's only so much. Like when you and I went to. What's the one in Newark, the stadium. Prudential. There's only so much content you can grab at Prudential a weekend. You have the desert, you have the stage, you have other people, you have camping. You're like, it's a full content weekend. Yeah. We can only get so many videos, different activation centers.

[Mal]

Hubs.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Like, which is fun. But that doesn't make people. I just feel like, okay, that's things for people to enjoy. Like, I don't think that that makes them content creators. I feel like everybody's a content creator these days if that's the case. People are recording stuff on their phone. They're having a ball. I just don't want to give. I feel like, influencers get a lot of slack. I don't want to give people the idea that regular things or for like rolling loud or music festivals that people enjoy, that is just for content creators or that's all people are doing there. People are there enjoying the music. If their phones are out. Their phones.

[Mal]

Oh, yeah, some people are definitely just enjoying the music.

[Damaris]

There's plenty of.

[Mal]

But it's hundreds of thousands. The reason why I said the lore is gone is because you don't even have to go to an event and still experience the entire event. I can literally just sit on social media and just watch certain people that are at events and feel like I've seen everything that went on at that event without actually going. Now, before, years ago, when people didn't even really know what Coachella was, the lore was different because then you just had stories when people came back from the desert after the weekend, like, yo, it was lit, yo. This person performed, bought this person. You like, what? So the lore feels a little different versus now. Everybody's recording it and posting it and live streaming or whatever. And it's just like, oh, okay, that was cool, I guess. You know what I'm saying? So that. That factor of not being there and just hearing people talk about was like something where you feel like, damn, I gotta experience that for myself one day. And now you don't even have to go and you can experience everything.

[Rory]

And I'm really not saying in a bad way of the influencer thing. I'm not. I just think more people probably watched Coachella vlogs than the performance. Like, as far as on their phone with. With clips. Like, the allure is. Is that experience. It's not so much the music anymore.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Because it used to be. To your point, when it used to just be like a camping thing, like, that was the. The allure. Coachella was a music festival you could camp at.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And on the west coast, it was like Woodstock for the west coast. And yes, you can still do that. But now it's. It's like influencer tents and.

[Mal]

Yeah, it's, you know, get people engagement, you know, know, it looks fun.

[Rory]

I saw. I saw some of the.

[Mal]

The.

[Rory]

The luxury tent set up. I would do that.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

That seemed kind of fun.

[Mal]

Not mad at it. Give people, give influencers and creators some opportunities to, you know, create. Create content and make some money while in the desert for the weekend.

[Damaris]

We should go next year as a group.

[Mal]

I'm cool next year.

[Rory]

Listen, when I went with eo, with. With all the access in the World that you could want at Coachella. I drove into in that day and I left after their performance. Yeah, I did.

[Mal]

Not even my festivals. There's just a lot going on.

[Rory]

Yeah, it, it's a lot, a lot. But mainly that's because I, my skin can't handle the, the desert. I don't know how that many white people go to Coachella.

[Mal]

You know how.

[Rory]

Sunscreen.

[Mal]

Yeah. SPF 15.

[Rory]

Listen, man.

[Damaris]

50. A 50. 50.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

15 ain't doing 15 ain't doing 15 is for us.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I got you.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

I wear sunscreen every day.

[Mal]

Every day.

[Rory]

Depending the sunscreen, depending which one you use. It's good for you no matter what your skin tone is. Like just SPF in general, it's good for your skin.

[Mal]

Who told you that?

[Rory]

The world.

[Mal]

It is.

[Damaris]

And I, I, I'm prone to anti aging too. I'm prone to like dark mark. Like if I get a pimple, it's. I'm gonna turn dark. Like, I'm prone to scarring. So if you're out in the sun a lot, your scars will get darker. So, yeah, wear something. And I, I don't want to age. I want to look young forever. I want to be Angela back.

[Rory]

That's it.

[Damaris]

So you have to wear sunscreen every day.

[Mal]

Beet juice.

[Damaris]

I mean that too.

[Mal]

Navy beans.

[Rory]

I take beet supplements. No. Okay, see, you need.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Institutionalized. You institutionalized?

[Damaris]

Hotep?

[Rory]

I don't know. What am I institutionalized of? Of what sort of.

[Mal]

Usher, Raymond and Chris Brown are going on tour. The R and B tour. Raymond and Brown. This is gonna be incredible. This is gonna be some of the best performances. Hey, Justin, you should go to every show. You should sit. You should go to every one of these shows.

[Rory]

Well, no, he's beefing with Usher.

[Mal]

That's why he need to go. He need to learn something. But no, this Raymond and Brown tour, I think is something that Usher and Chris have kind of like played with and you know, the idea for a few years and for them to finally announce that they are going on tour together. This will be one of the most iconic tours. But let me not say that because I thought Jay Z R Kelly was gonna be an iconic tour as well.

[Rory]

And it was iconic.

[Mal]

We know how that ended. But I don't see Usher and Chris having any issues or problems on there at all. I think this is gonna be great. This is kinda like the elder statesman kind of like passing the torch to the new king of R and B. What? Well, Chris has probably been the king RB for Some years now. But I think it's gonna be dope, man. I think this is gonna be. How are they gonna do this, though? Is it gonna be like a versus the whole tour? Like, Chris does a song, Usher does a song?

[Damaris]

No, it's probably gonna be probably like.

[Mal]

Cause this is where you getting this. This is where you getting the sticky and show business. Damaris, you start telling Usher he gotta open for Chris, it's gonna be some diva ego energy backstage going on. I'm telling you that right now.

[Rory]

I think they'll do like, what Brandi and Monica do did of just like 10 minute, different sets going, different medleys. And I think Chris, in a humble way, would start just cuz. Just cuz Usher is not me.

[Mal]

I just sold out every football stadium in America. I ain't open it for nobody.

[Damaris]

But it's not opening.

[Mal]

Y' all doing.

[Damaris]

Y' all doing it together. They're gonna.

[Rory]

I'm sure they're gonna have.

[Damaris]

Yeah, they're gonna have an open.

[Mal]

Who's opening for Usher and Chris?

[Damaris]

Anybody? Good.

[Mal]

And now, see, that's from. That. Not just anybody.

[Rory]

You have Leon back with the Bruno Mar right now. That stadiums, like, you don't think that, though. You don't think Kehlani could be added to this bill or something? For Chris Brown, it was. It was Summer Walker.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Who else?

[Mal]

It was another big actor, Chris and Usher. I don't know, dog. That ain't just. That's. That's a lot.

[Rory]

Who wouldn't want to open? That's.

[Mal]

No, no, no. That's. That's a totally different question. I would open for.

[Damaris]

I would open for who's funny.

[Mal]

Who is going to go up there and really, like, entertain the audience, like, and try to. Nobody's gonna match that level of energy that those who have.

[Rory]

But even when I went to the debris, Wolf, Summer, Bryson, Janae was not at the one that I went to, but Summer and Bryson, I mean, it was great. The stadium was engaged the entire time. They both have hit records.

[Mal]

Yeah, but it wasn't. Usher wasn't coming out too, though.

[Rory]

It's a lot. Rocked for three hours and was flying around the stadium like.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And it was still okay with the openers.

[Mal]

No, I'm not saying. Listen, Summer, Walker, Bryson, they're dope. But I'm just saying, I. We can't just say anybody can open for these two. No, no. You gotta have the right artist. It has to be a certain level of entertainment before those two hit the stage. It has to be. This is the Best of the best. Like, there's no like either or. It's Usher or Chris. You pick, pick, pick your favorite.

[Rory]

You know what I liked was I went to the Lemonade tour and Khalid and Friends opened up at each show, which was pretty cool. Like if. If J. It was JD and Friends or something.

[Damaris]

Something.

[Rory]

And Khaled, like picked a certain amount in whatever region he was in. And those people would fly for that region. They'd go to each one. That could be cool because now you have like the surprise of which guest is coming out and it's only hit records. I think that could be kind of cool. Just a more DJ guest based thing instead of a performance.

[Mal]

Okay. Speaking of Cali, that song was kind of rough, ain't it?

[Damaris]

Oh, I haven't heard it yet. It's good.

[Rory]

Hov loved it.

[Mal]

Good and terrible. No, he didn't. Don't do that. See, look how fast you go.

[Damaris]

Was he bobbing? Was he like.

[Rory]

You didn't see what I put in the chat. I said, damn, hov's a good liar

[Damaris]

that hard. His forehead crunched. Everything.

[Mal]

Nah, man. Oh, with it, Hov like, yeah, I think this, this rap is over with. That's what he told. That's what he told Juan. Yeah, I think rap is in trouble. That song is trash. That song is bruh. I listened to that twice. I was like, nah, it's just, it's.

[Rory]

It's more of like the same. I liked when Khaled pushed the envelope with the collabs and the producer. It's just like I have this song a thousand times.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Putting Lil Baby and Future on a song is just kind of like.

[Mal]

It's not even that.

[Rory]

Like to find unique ways to do. It's just this.

[Damaris]

It's the same.

[Mal]

It's not about putting them two on the song. It's cuz those two can make hit records together.

[Rory]

Oh, for sure.

[Mal]

That song is just bad though.

[Damaris]

It's.

[Rory]

It's the same pocket.

[Mal]

Like, I don't care who, I don't care what strip club they play that in. I don't care what girls are on stage shaking ass to it. That song, you not. That song is a. That's. That's a bad song.

[Rory]

They'll work the record. You'll hear it.

[Mal]

Yeah. You going to hear it. Of course you got to hear it.

[Rory]

But it ain't. It's not. It's not Khed's catalog level. In my opinion. The song is bad, but it's a weird record to roll out with. That's all. That's all I'm saying.

[Mal]

Well, I mean, he had. He had. He had to pivot.

[Rory]

Yo, my issue. How come you didn't kill Ho for the way he was bopping and said the two times you've killed me for that is when Jim Jones played me el capo. And when I heard Leon Thomas Mutt for the first time, and I was 2 for 2 on that. I had. I had a right to make the stank face for both those. And y' all still clown me. Come on, have the same energy for ho for this nonsense.

[Mal]

I was just clowning. I said hov. Whisper Dewan. Yeah. Rappers in trouble. He didn't like that song. No, he didn't like that song.

[Rory]

When was the last time you made the stank face at the studio and you didn't believe it?

[Mal]

It's been some years.

[Damaris]

Y' all used to do that, like pretend that some shit was fire and it wasn't.

[Mal]

No. Cause you could be bopping and had a stink face and it'd be a bad song.

[Rory]

Still, it's actually stink.

[Mal]

Yeah. Know you like. I smell it.

[Rory]

Yeah, you smell that?

[Mal]

Smell like some coming through the speakers.

[Rory]

Yeah. No, I've def. Because I mean, on the. On the bigs, no matter what, you're gonna bop your head even if it's horseshit, but you can tell that it's horseshit. You just gotta make up things like, oh, yeah, nah, you gotta get the right feature for that. And that's out of here.

[Damaris]

If I was.

[Mal]

And niggas gotta stop saying that's out of here. I don't want to hear that's out of here. I don't want to hear that's out of here from nobody else. Again. Don't tell me nothing is out of here. Just let.

[Rory]

The last time I said it, it was Leon Thomas Mutt.

[Mal]

Well, yes, you. If you said that.

[Rory]

I haven't said that in quite some time on anything.

[Damaris]

Last time I said that, it was folded, so I love being right on the right side of history.

[Rory]

But then I also thought four or five seconds with Rihanna, Kanye, and Paul McCartney was going to be the biggest song of all times.

[Damaris]

It was a very big song.

[Rory]

I'm wrong.

[Damaris]

Four or five seconds was a very big song.

[Rory]

It didn't land the way I thought it was going to in I. And I saw the Gap commercial video. I was like, oh, four or five

[Damaris]

seconds was a huge song.

[Mal]

What was it? Four, five seconds?

[Rory]

That. That record is hard to me. No, D, I think you're mis. That Record got a lot of flack and Paul McCartney. It should have. It should have been. It should have been huge.

[Damaris]

It went to 4 on the Billboard Hot 100. It was.

[Rory]

That's the only time the three of them ever went number four.

[Mal]

That might be a fact. That might be a super fact. That's the. That's a big fail for Sir Paul McCartney. What do you mean? L.

[Damaris]

That's how he thought.

[Mal]

He's from the uk. What do you mean? You never heard Liverpool? Yeah. Like, you never heard him speak before.

[Damaris]

Oh.

[Rory]

But, yeah, I was definitely wrong about that. I thought that was taking over the world.

[Damaris]

I don't know. I always thought I. I considered it a pretty big song. I think we're a little hard on people sometimes.

[Mal]

No, that song was trash.

[Damaris]

That song was not trash.

[Mal]

When the last time you listened to that record?

[Damaris]

If I go to jail tonight, promise you'll pay my bill. I like that song. Whatever.

[Mal]

Good and terrible.

[Damaris]

If I was. But if I was Jay Z and I was in a studio, I would become accustomed to Bob in my head at everything, too. Because somebody might go into a midlife crisis if they're in the studio playing a song for Jay Z and he sits there, there, and just.

[Mal]

So then.

[Sponsor Voice]

Don't.

[Mal]

Don't invite me.

[Rory]

Well, they're all the same age.

[Mal]

What that mean?

[Damaris]

What that mean?

[Rory]

Like, Khad's of that age, too. So why he. He would play it for people his age?

[Mal]

No.

[Damaris]

Where did you.

[Mal]

He gonna play it for Jay and then do exactly what he did. Use the video as promo.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Jay Z, like. Oh, for sure. No, I get that. But yeah, you acting like it was a young artist trying to pitch something to an old guy.

[Damaris]

No, it's not about age.

[Rory]

I misunderstood what you were saying.

[Damaris]

No, I'm saying, like, if I'm playing a song for Jay Z and it. He don't bop, like, I'm gonna have a crisis. Like, I'm gonna go into crisis.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

So I think he's just become accustomed to bopping at everything because he probably sees the fucking. Because if he doesn't bop, niggas is gonna turn the music off and be like, jay, what could I do differently?

[Rory]

That's a good thing.

[Damaris]

Just. But I'm sure he.

[Mal]

But it's not just that.

[Damaris]

Jay is tired of it.

[Mal]

He's a rapper first. So if he's in the studio and he has music, naturally the rapper is gonna start by. He gonna try to find a pocket. He's subliminal. Like, he's indirectly writing bars in his head.

[Rory]

Yeah, he's approaching the record.

[Mal]

Yeah. It's different. So he's listening to it. Like, okay, what would I have done with this record? So that's what a lot of the bopping is. That's him writing. When he's doing that. When he's doing this, he's writing. He got eight bars already as soon as he. But it's. I mean, I'm pretty sure once he really sat and listened to what they did with it, he was probably like, yeah, n. I don't know. Respectfully, I don't know if that's what I would have did with it, but.

[Rory]

And I think when Khed, obviously he has a partnership with Jay Z, but I think a lot of times when he plays music for hov, he's trying to find the one that Jay would get on. Like, whatever Khaled picks, they'll. They'll work the record the way they should work the record. They don't need HOVs approval on that one. I think he's trying to play the,

[Mal]

like, oh, you like that? You want. Yeah, you want. You want to. What you want to do with that? Like, you.

[Damaris]

I never want to hear jig with Future. A little baby.

[Mal]

He did. I got the keys.

[Rory]

I like, I got the keys.

[Mal]

I love.

[Damaris]

I got the keys.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Little baby one.

[Rory]

I know some people. I. I like that record.

[Damaris]

I didn't like the chorus when I first heard it. It was a little annoying.

[Mal]

You a want to repeat.

[Rory]

I got the keys, the keys, the key.

[Damaris]

That was annoying as when I first heard it, but it grew on me.

[Rory]

We predicted we were in the Palooza Atlanta house. I put an Instagram video up when they announced it without the snippet, and I. I did the hook with Austin. I said, I guarantee you, I remember that the hook on this is I got the keys, keys. And we were completely right.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

That's not a bad hook, though. Okay.

[Damaris]

It's not a great one. It's not a great one.

[Mal]

I love when it's. It's not bad.

[Damaris]

Top off is way better. Significantly better.

[Rory]

How's that? The reps.

[Damaris]

It's just.

[Mal]

I can Better.

[Damaris]

Huh?

[Mal]

Is it just. I got the top off over and over.

[Damaris]

I said, it's the Beyonce. I said the top of the Maybe. I said it. Remember?

[Rory]

Yes. Future Beyonce.

[Mal]

Yeah. Yeah. I didn't like that one either.

[Damaris]

You didn't like top off with Beyonce Went off.

[Mal]

I didn't like the hook. I didn't really like the hook.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Mal]

Song was okay, but I ain't really like the hook.

[Damaris]

That's fine.

[Rory]

What would you have said to Jack in the studio now? Now that the dust has settled, like all 20, 2020 hindsight sight,

[Mal]

this was just a passion project for Jack, and it was just the wrong time. The wrong time.

[Damaris]

You saw what your friend said about him.

[Mal]

Who's my friend?

[Damaris]

Not your friend. His friend. No, you didn't see what Jazzy said?

[Rory]

Oh, oh, oh, yeah. That entire thing. Cool. Yeah, I do want to get to that. That as well. But I was curious, cuz I haven't seen y' all since the say hello music video came out. And he had. He had the hat from Harry Potter, that speech cheeks. Just like with the Neo soul version of it. Like, you can see the mouth on the hat. Like, oh, that. That it talks. That hat talks for sure.

[Mal]

Those are his thoughts.

[Rory]

Heavy is the head, man.

[Damaris]

That's so funny. The Neo soul sorting hat is hilarious.

[Rory]

And like. All right, so I'll ask you guys, what do you do after? Because I think there would have been a different response. Not a great one, but a different response. Had that clip of I Got Blacker didn't lead the album out. I'm not. I'm just saying it wouldn't have gone as crazy.

[Damaris]

No, it would have been.

[Rory]

Do you just keep leaning into it? I'm sure maybe this video was already shot. I see that he stopped doing press completely. I don't think that was a plan. I don't know that to be a thing. But after that, I think he was just like, you know what? I shouldn't speak. Do you just keep going and leaning in like this video?

[Mal]

Listen, man, I feel like.

[Rory]

So maybe you just have to lean into it.

[Mal]

Listen, he got a skit on snl, right?

[Rory]

I thought that was Jack at first. Listen, when he slid into, I was like, oh, this is a good idea. So I was like, oh, this is a. This is really a joke, like you said.

[Mal]

I think Rory said it last week, like, you know, press. All press is good press. Something like that. Right?

[Damaris]

I said that.

[Mal]

Yeah, you said that. I'm sorry.

[Rory]

It's okay.

[Mal]

Yeah, he got a skinny ass in hell.

[Rory]

Yes.

[Mal]

People are making fun of him. People are cracking jokes. The hat is. Is viral and all of this.

[Rory]

Yeah, but our conversation with that, because. Yes, all good. All press can be good press. Does it translate to anything? Yes. There's a skit on SNL that's making fun of him and that Jack was a good sport about it. He posted. My aunt really thought it was me. Whatever. I don't think that transl. I don't think the SNL audience, the Upper west side was like, you know what? Let me go check that out. I don't think it translates to clicks or new fans or people to go back to the album. I just think it's. Now your name's back in the algorithm for some shit you don't want your name to be in the algorithm for.

[Mal]

I mean, if people are watching the video just to see the hat.

[Rory]

Well, that was a. That was a good touch of leaning into it, because now there's a conversation speech outside. Because the. The trailer. When the album came out, he was just walking around soho the same. The same way.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I'm sure that video was already shot. But as far as what you were saying, Ma. It's the same thing with. Sometimes I've realized, even just being in the business that we're in, sometimes. Sometimes it might not translate to clicks or new fans, but it can make you. It can give you more lasting power with name recognition. You can have lasting power with name recognition when people know who you. More people know who you are, is growing your name recognition. So.

[Rory]

But my thing is, does this hurt his name recognition for the next time he wants to come back? I mean, everyone's going to be like, all right, now we got to see what Jack is going to do. So you are right there.

[Mal]

And where's that hat? Hey, Jack, where's the hat? Yeah, where's the hat? Where's the hat, Jack? That should be the name of his next.

[Rory]

Where's the hat?

[Damaris]

Where's the mall?

[Mal]

Where's the hat? Jack,

[Damaris]

Are you.

[Rory]

No, that's the album cover. Just the hat, like, on the ground. Like, he. He took the hat off.

[Mal]

Yeah, I took the hat off. I took the hat off.

[Damaris]

Y.

[Rory]

Yo, you know what's funny? Because I. I don't want to act like a. Know it all. Like, in hindsight, like, yeah, somebody should have told Jack. No, the music on the project, like, if I were in.

[Mal]

This is not bad.

[Rory]

If I were in that studio, I wouldn't sit there and be like, this is bad. I wouldn't.

[Mal]

Yeah, it's not bad.

[Rory]

Not because I was sitting. I just wouldn't say that. But, like, yes.

[Mal]

Cool.

[Rory]

I would probably think, how do you want to, like, pivot? Yeah, I think less about.

[Mal]

But we said that when it dropped. Yeah, the music isn't terrible. It's Jack. And we were not expecting this from Jack Harlow. That's all.

[Rory]

So that. I mean, that's kind of my thing, too. With. With people that are like, yo, you need more friends in the studio. No, sometimes you need more friends on your marketing plan. Yeah, because I. Yeah, again, it's not terrible.

[Mal]

It's not terrible.

[Rory]

Like, it's just.

[Mal]

We were not expecting this from Jack hall, and we didn't ask for this, and we didn't want this.

[Damaris]

Yeah, we get them all. He said we didn't ask.

[Rory]

We weren't asked.

[Mal]

We were taking it. We didn't want it. It's a hard pivot from. Was it nail tech and all? Super hard pivot from all of that. But. But, I mean, listen, if this is what. As an artist, if this is what he. You know, if this made him happy and fulfilled as an artist when he left the studio, then, I mean, you know, he just has to deal with skits on SNL and, you know, the hat going viral, and he has. He has to deal with all that as well. I'm pretty sure, you know, he's. Again, you have to kind of, like, lean into it and, you know, go with the jokes as well. You can't fight against it. But what does this mean? Like, what are you saying, like, now? What from Jack, like, moving forward, it. What does his next project sound like? Yeah, can he go back to just rapping? I don't think he can. I don't think he can go back to rapping just ever, like, fully rap album after this. It's gonna be like, all right, bro. You just. Now you just. You just doing whatever you want to do now. You, like, your fans are confused. We don't know what to expect from you. So that's the only reason why I didn't understand him putting out an album like this right now is that he still didn't develop his sound and, you know, where people know him for. Or a certain thing. We thought it was rap, and now obviously it's Monica as well.

[Rory]

So, yeah, the jozzy was. Was definitely not good timing for him. Like, when things are already piling of how you're looking, a little culture vulturey. But, yeah, J. J was doing an interview and basically said we did some great work together. He texted me a long voice note, I love working with you, but I don't want nobody to know we are working. Pretty much wanted me to be a ghostwriter. That shit hurt me. I was like, if the song comes out, out, and I'm letting y' all know I wrote it. So we never. So we never worked after that. I respect him for hitting me with that and what he wanted in return. I Hit him with what I was going to do. I mean, I don't really see. I don't understand why Jack would want that, though.

[Mal]

Why he would want Jozzy to write for him.

[Rory]

No, to. To ghost. Right. What's wrong with crediting one of the best writers we have right now? Now I don't understand that part. Yeah, like J. J's a hit. Like a hit maker. Like, you wouldn't want to have Jazzy.

[Mal]

We talking about on Monica. Like this arm.

[Rory]

No, no, this was actually for the kids. Miss you. This wasn't even on Monica. We get blue. Blew my mind too, because I. I FaceTime jazzy from the video shoot once that that clip dropped and she was like. Nah, she was on the other. Wait, what? Yeah. Cuz I. I assume too, just because Jazzy's such an incredible R B artist. Who wouldn't want to tap in with Jazzy if you're making a Neo I so project like, that makes total sense. No, I was on the. The other one. Come home the kids mission, you know?

[Mal]

You know, rap gets that stain of it's supposed to be your bars. Like you. If you didn't write it, it's like it gets frowned upon. It's the only genre that. That gets that.

[Rory]

But even if you go back to that whole album, like, there's so many bridges and hooks and like, I. I don't know it. I'm sure if you go through the credits on Spotify, there's probably a bunch of writers and on everybody. Everything.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I just don't. I don't get it. I'd like to know the context from Jack because I don't want to like, assume and put something on somebody, but I don't know if that's the first time he's ever made that call. Because if you're. If you're having that call with. With Jazzy, who is certified, especially at that. That time of making hits and people wanting to work with her now, it's like the cat is out of the bag. Everyone does know Jazzy, but at that time, it was like the secret, like, you got to work with Jazzy, that's. She'll get you a hit record. If you're having that conversation with a. A writer and artist like that. What did you say to the other ones that weren't as big?

[Damaris]

Yeah. Who else is not credited on that album?

[Rory]

And I don't want to put that on Jack. I'm not here to say Jack has a bunch of fucking ghostwriters or anything. I'm not Putting that on someone where I don't know the actual facts of any of his sessions. I've never been in a session with Jack. I've never. No one's told me that. I just am saying. If you're saying that to Jozy. Puff didn't even say that to Josie. Who else are you saying it to?

[Damaris]

Would you write for Jack?

[Rory]

Write for check. Like, raps. No.

[Damaris]

Well, he just did R and B album, so.

[Rory]

Oh, I would, yeah. I would definitely. I would definitely actually love to do a writing session for anything.

[Mal]

Deal.

[Rory]

So I. I can't rap as good as Jack, so.

[Damaris]

Yeah, no, I wasn't suggesting you write his raps. I was talking about, like, he has chords.

[Rory]

Oh, hell yeah. Absolutely.

[Mal]

I mean, I don't rap as good as Jack, but if somebody wrote it for me, I could rap it.

[Rory]

Someone would write something that you would do a reference for Jack. So you just be a middleman to deliver. Like, when I write, imagine being a ghostwriter and someone ghost wrote your ghost rap.

[Damaris]

Like, what. How many points is that?

[Mal]

Like, what point?

[Damaris]

How many points do you get on that song?

[Rory]

That's hilarious.

[Damaris]

When I write songs, I'm always afraid to do, like, a reference. Like, I can't. I know. Like, I've heard Rory's references. I know it's supposed to sound silly, but I can't.

[Rory]

You guys, you got to throw a lot. A lot of tune on it just so you get your ideas out.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Rory]

Yeah, just grab one of these mics. Don't go in the booth. Just grab one of these mics and. And sit in the studio. Let it run through the speakers. Throw some tune on and keep the good parts. But if you're working with Jazzy, just let Jozzy do it. That's all I'm saying. That makes sense. And then I wasn't fully sure if she was saying. Not featured, like, if there was Jozzy vocals that she wrote too. And he just didn't want to say featuring Jozzy because he had it featuring Pharrell or whatever. But, yeah, I don't know. I don't understand that. The ghost writing thing. I don't think there's anything wrong with somebody being credited on your song that wrote.

[Mal]

It's not. I mean, I think. I think it's weird when you say, I don't want to credit you on the song for writing it. That's where it's weird. Like. Like, what do you mean?

[Damaris]

What you hiding? What you trying to hide from?

[Mal]

Yeah, like that. That means you. You know, that it feels like there's something wrong with it. Like and it's not like if you have somebody that has a pen and can kind of like help you with a record and he can hear things that you can't. Like as an artist, it's supposed to be to create the best art, right?

[Rory]

Yeah. And on top of that too, I, I, I feel like artists should look out for each other in that regard. Like if you were. Cause I mean Jozzy's now a full, full on artist. At that time she was more writing and hadn't really worked out her full solo career. That's kind of like, that's like their LinkedIn like within artist world. Oh, who'd you work with? This Jozzy. Okay, connect me with Jozzy. If she's writing that for you, I need to work with her as well. Yeah, like that, that's, that's a big thing for artists livelihood when they're writing that way. I need to be credited here so I can continue to get more work and people know what, what time it is with me.

[Mal]

Yeah. Shout out to Quinn Miller. Man, I got for sure.

[Rory]

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[Rory]

I feel like lately everybody's trying to be a little more intentional with their money.

[Mal]

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[Rory]

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[Rory]

Visit Wells Fargo.com autographjourney Terms apply. Y' all saw Offset come out like he got shot at Quad Studios.

[Mal]

This is a simulation, man.

[Rory]

This isn't real.

[Mal]

Who you think I should. Who you think picked your character in the simulation? Like, who you think got the control? Controller, God. Okay, Rory, who you think got your controller?

[Rory]

God. Engineer.

[Mal]

Okay, all right, so Offset came, he came out.

[Rory]

Whoever did has a very weird sense of humor. I'll just put it that way.

[Mal]

This was. This was. This was, I guess Offset's version of when Snoop had just beat his murder just. Murder trial and came out at the award show for murder was the case.

[Rory]

Which do you think was better? That was the question I was gonna ask you guys.

[Mal]

No, that's not the question.

[Rory]

No, I was really, I swear to God, I was prepared to ask, ask you specifically, was this better than murder was the case?

[Mal]

This was. Yo, listen, man, you know, I've never been shot.

[Rory]

That's two.

[Mal]

He's too strong. Yeah, I can't.

[Rory]

I can't tear him down.

[Mal]

I can't speak to it. But Offset, I don't know, I think you should just like, just chill for a little bit. Just go sit down and just, you know, heal and, you know, get your energy right and get you know, just relax. I don't think we needed this performance.

[Rory]

The amount of people that came out, I'm sure you guys fully spoke about it, but amount of people that came out and said that Offset owes them money was the funniest part about this entire thing.

[Damaris]

Oh, yeah, no, we had on my

[Rory]

video set, people were telling me Offset owed the money. I'm not. I swear to God. And ironically, it was all at Super Bowl. Yeah, he bet with everybody at Super Bowl.

[Mal]

That's all he was doing, was walking around.

[Rory]

Like I was walking around with.

[Mal]

You bet it.

[Rory]

But that's why I don't bet.

[Mal]

Why?

[Rory]

Because I don't want to get into this, this, this, like those type of bets. I bet on Hard Rock because I only have to deal with these app. I'm not dealing with Offsetting crew with my bets. Did Offset right in my phone.

[Mal]

Did he say that on his. On his letter? Life's a gamble, and I'm still playing to win. See, you see what I'm saying, Darius? You see the games niggas play? Life's a gamble. I'm still.

[Damaris]

Life's a gamble, and I'm still playing a win, period.

[Mal]

Well, Offset says thank you to everyone who's checked in on me and showed me love. I'm good, but I'm planning to be better. I'm focused on my family, my recovery, getting back to the music, realizing that life is made of quiet wins and loud losses. Life's a gamble, and I'm still playing to win. Well, we do continue to, you know, pray for Offset, and hopefully He's. He's healed. 100% ghost.

[Rory]

Written by Forrest Gump's mom. I. I mean, no, of course I don't want Offset to be harmed. Of course, avoid violence at all costs. But I'm not condoning this, though, but pay your debts. Like.

[Mal]

Well, it's coming out that this was.

[Rory]

Understand there. There's. There's shit with Gam. Like, unfortunately with Takeoff, that was a unfortunate situation that clearly could have been avoided of that dice game. But if that could have been avoided. But if you are constantly ass betting people and not paying them back, that is your fault. I'm sorry. It's your fault. You can't go around the world betting with people and not paying them and think everything's going to be okay. But in the domestic world, of course, I don't want anyone harmed. I live in the real world.

[Mal]

But do we know that's. That's what really happened?

[Damaris]

We don't know that.

[Rory]

No, we don't know what? That's really. If that's what really happened. But if that is a pattern for somebody and you're gambling and then you find out that they were shot in the ass, one could assume. Okay, it could have been about something else.

[Mal]

I don't know. Yeah, I'm just saying what it was about. They're saying that him and TJ was fighting and he was beating TJ up, and then TJ's man shot him.

[Rory]

Okay, well, I don't. I don't know about any of that or whatever. I'm just saying if you continue to bet people and not pay them, you're not really a victim to me. You're not if you can. That's how the world works.

[Mal]

If you continue to bet, people are

[Rory]

not paying for Trump. If I stop paying my mortgage today and the bank takes my house, am I a victim?

[Damaris]

Taking your house and potentially taking your life are two completely different things.

[Rory]

Oh, no, again, I don't like violence. I just. I live in the real world, though. Like, and. And with mortgages, you deal with the bank and how the bank shoots you in the ass is they take your house and they auction it. I'm saying in that world, you get shot in the ass.

[Damaris]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mal]

In that world, that.

[Rory]

That's. That's what I'm saying.

[Mal]

Like, shot in your ass is. Is a. A kind thing to do that's actually kind of. Kind of like, noble. Like, like, yeah, usually you get shot in your head, but, you know, like,

[Rory]

I hear everyone and I want to live in the world too, where it's all kumbaya and maybe we put offset on a payment plan and, hey, I'll get. Get you on the next one. But that's why I don't with certain worlds, because I know the consequences of those worlds. Yeah, don't. Don't step into the game and not. Not pay someone and be like, why. Why are you hitting me? That's the rules here.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's a fact. Fact.

[Damaris]

Somebody had tweeted and was like, yo, so Cardi B was buying her own bags this whole time. And y' all think. Letting y' all think offset was spoiling her. And Cardi responded to, said, never. I'm never the type to do lame like that. There was no money problems when I was regulating.

[Mal]

You know, Cardi said that.

[Rory]

Is that some fake? AI? No, cuz I. I watched Justin Bieber and Tam's kiss and thought it was real at first. That was the best video I've ever seen in my life. Oh, My God. God, that AI was crazy.

[Damaris]

No, that wasn't AI.

[Rory]

I am kind of shocked Cardi is still talking about offset or like commenting at least. That's a little odd to me. But anyways, I hope everyone heals and specifically offset. Everyone gets paid the money that they're owed and that's, that's, that's really where I land on everything.

[Mal]

That's very noble. You work. Thank you for that.

[Rory]

How much do you think it'll cost for us to do the. The iceman on the seats?

[Mal]

You want to ice these seats up?

[Rory]

Yeah. Should we talk to the Raptors and see what the specs were?

[Mal]

Yeah, we can get it done. Put some ice on these seats right here. Baby, do you want some ice on your seat?

[Damaris]

No.

[Mal]

You happy? It's 80° out, so you.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I was going to say I'm okay.

[Mal]

Yeah. You want ice on your seats? We ice p seat out about it. Got you.

[Rory]

I would think the whole set, like just do some icing. Just icicles here.

[Damaris]

This winter wonderland.

[Rory]

Put us in just the glue.

[Mal]

Come on, man.

[Damaris]

Yo ma on ki, right? They got like bets like you could bet when Iceman is coming out. Can you help me?

[Mal]

Oh, can I help you? When, When Iceman's coming out? Like tell you when it's coming out?

[Damaris]

Yeah, you don't gotta tell like everything. Like tell me so that I could bet.

[Rory]

No, like maybe Saturday training, maybe. Maybe take this out. Because like let's like actually do that. Like maybe we should like, honestly, like, I think maybe you're on it. Something, something.

[Mal]

Oh yeah, like you know, and we

[Rory]

can do it from a goat. Let's just do it on Ryan's account. Yeah. They don't know you.

[Mal]

They don't know you.

[Damaris]

I don't know him. He might get my money.

[Rory]

You might have to shoot him and ask.

[Damaris]

Yeah, like, I ain't playing that shit. But don't like, but don't tell him. It's like for us, cuz he gonna give you the wrong date. Just ask him like on a sly.

[Mal]

The wrong date?

[Damaris]

Yeah, he like, I don't want him to give. Like if you tell him the old Roy and Damaris want to bet on it.

[Mal]

Oh, so you gotta get the exact date?

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Oh, oh, no, no, it's. It's just before a certain month.

[Damaris]

Oh, no.

[Rory]

Oh, then that's easy. Yeah, just, just vaguely tell us something, we'll be good.

[Damaris]

Come on, baby. Baby needs some shoes.

[Mal]

New Joe Fresh Goods, huh? You need them?

[Damaris]

I need them. Joe Fresh Goods is releasing like 90s R&B or 90s hip hop themed shoes. I sent them to mall. You think I'm to going get him? Let's bet on that over under N.

[Rory]

Cuz I don't want to shoot you.

[Mal]

I'm saying I can't get that sells out. Like I can't get. If they sell out, how am I

[Rory]

supposed to get them next week?

[Damaris]

He definitely is though. He definitely is. Like hit him beforehand. Them shits is fire.

[Rory]

Yeah, those are.

[Damaris]

I want the purple ones because they're based on the what's it going to be video with Busta and Janet. Fire.

[Rory]

But didn't they just send you something like two weeks ago? Both of them have sent you stuff to this office like a month.

[Damaris]

Yeah, they have.

[Rory]

Okay, so shout out to John. Your sizing and stuff is probably on.

[Mal]

This lady sent you some joints Sale.

[Damaris]

He shout out to Sale.

[Rory]

He too, right?

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

I reached out to Joe, said, yo, the marriage gonna kill me. Send us something. He made it happen for you.

[Damaris]

I'm gonna reach out to him. Be like, hi, stranger.

[Mal]

I don't know if that's gonna work, but you know. Sorry, you can shoot. Shoot. I'm not.

[Damaris]

But I. I at least post the secrets. That's the thing about me. I post my shit.

[Rory]

I just wore my Joe Fresh goods in my music video.

[Damaris]

Did you kick your feet up and tag him?

[Rory]

That was on the DP and first ac. It's not even on.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's not on him. You don't put that on Rory. That wasn't a part of the.

[Rory]

They gotta.

[Mal]

They didn't write that in like kick your feet up was not in the script. You can't do that to Rory. Don't do that.

[Rory]

Yeah, product placement. Did anyone bet on Hard Rock for Cole's numbers? I know we were talking about sports. We were talking about betting.

[Mal]

Yeah,

[Rory]

you know, it's a sports book for the magic and the. The heat.

[Mal]

I wasn't sure if that's what's up.

[Rory]

No, for like the Monkey Kings.

[Damaris]

Nah, Pop your don't half ass. Pop the.

[Rory]

Pop your pop what? I think, I think it's cool that. That you could just go to China and play basketball. I think that's cool.

[Mal]

You can go to West 4th and play basketball too. Right here down there.

[Damaris]

Block.

[Rory]

I probably have the same stats.

[Mal]

You have worse.

[Damaris]

You would not have the same stats.

[Rory]

I wouldn't.

[Damaris]

Would never let you on the floor if they did.

[Mal]

I would have those same stats. Ain't hard to get. I could promise you. I could promise you One rebound and one assist. That's not tough.

[Rory]

And sometimes some. Some assists, you don't deserve either.

[Mal]

Yeah, like, was that. Did you really. Like, did you really assist that? Or was he going to score that ball anyway with or without you passing?

[Rory]

Like, bro, if I hand the ball off to Steph Curry when he's at half court and he pulls up, is that my assist?

[Mal]

I don't know. I just don't know if that's yours. I think Steph was going to do that anyway, but.

[Rory]

Yeah, but no. Damaris, you always think I'm hating on Cole. I'm not. I think it's cool if you want to go to ch. To have the power to just do that. I think that's cool and earned, and it's great. But it's also funny. I just don't think there's anything wrong with that.

[Damaris]

You couldn't skip down the block without

[Rory]

a way better basketball player than me. I'm not here to clown him in that. It's just funny.

[Mal]

Going over five, that ain't saying much. What's that saying, like, jcole's a better basketball player than you? That ain't saying much. What is that? This is absolutely crazy, man. Cole, give it up. The Hoop Dreams is over with, bro. Just rap. I get it. You want to play in the league. I get it.

[Rory]

Said in his interviews that he thought the window was closing. He's getting older and want to do one more time.

[Mal]

Is this the last time?

[Rory]

I think that's what he was saying. Okay, well, he got waved.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Rory]

But, you know, the. The MK is there in a rebuilding year.

[Mal]

Cole, just come.

[Rory]

Just maybe, you know, cold.

[Mal]

Just meet us at LA Fitness like everybody else, man. Just come to LA Fitness every Saturday, man. We in there like, you know, we just get some run.

[Rory]

Noon is not in there.

[Damaris]

Who Y' all ain't in LA Fitness. Running. No plays.

[Rory]

I don't think they don't want plays in LA Fitness.

[Mal]

But just get the ball and just. If you got a shot, take it. It's not a play.

[Damaris]

LA Fitness has basketball.

[Rory]

Oh, they do.

[Damaris]

Okay. That's why he said that.

[Rory]

Well, yeah. Or let's just go. Go to the park.

[Mal]

That's it. It's all right. Decide to let that hoop dream go Sometimes it's over. Sorry. Going all the way to China to get one point, one rebound, and one assist is absolutely crazy.

[Rory]

Some. Some of us are just, you know, we're annoying defenders or we just. We penetrating dish. Just. That's. That's our thing.

[Mal]

It's over, man.

[Rory]

Not here to be a score.

[Mal]

Sorry, though.

[Damaris]

Dreams, bro. Keep doing whatever you want to do, man.

[Mal]

Well, he's Dreamville, so he's got to keep living his dreams.

[Damaris]

Exactly.

[Mal]

It's not Dreamville if he don't dream. So I just think sometime we need to have a reality ville, too. Where's real?

[Rory]

That's your problem. See, that's your problem.

[Mal]

Where's Realville? Who signed a Realville? The Grinch who signed the reality bill. Like, come on, man. China.

[Rory]

That's your problem.

[Mal]

Ryan, how did you feel about this? Did you feel disrespected? Yes. I figured you would.

[Rory]

Nah, but see, don't do that now. I gotta defend, cuz. Ray rice dropped 30 points on you at. At the gym.

[Mal]

Super bowl champion. He was supposed to. He did what he was supposed to do.

[Rory]

Okay. You don't think there's talent in the cba?

[Mal]

Absolutely. Yeah.

[Rory]

Cole's going against people that could end up playing in the NBA.

[Mal]

He shouldn't be there.

[Rory]

You shouldn't have been D of Ray Rice.

[Mal]

Why? It was a. It wasn't a professional league.

[Rory]

He's a professional.

[Mal]

Yeah, but he. Okay, so he shouldn't have been there. Not me. I was where I was supposed to be. Cole ain't supposed to be there. I was right where I was supposed to. Supposed to be.

[Rory]

Okay. When everyone's calling out who they got. Did you just answer last? Is that why you landed on Ray?

[Mal]

No, we didn't.

[Rory]

I think, you know, whenever says, I got him and was like, well, I guess I got Ray.

[Mal]

No, I wasn't. I don't even remember. I think we just. Just end up standing next to each other, like, all right, I got Ray. Here's what it is.

[Rory]

I got Ray.

[Mal]

I ain't no. Like, I ain't scared. That was strong. Yeah, that strong, man.

[Rory]

Nah, but Cole, come on, man. First game jitter.

[Mal]

Yeah. I think he wrote a letter saying some. Some comment saying he was supposed to play three games.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mal]

He's like, you think if he would have more time to get practicing and, you know.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Get his legs up on them. Long flight, long flight. You know how I go.

[Rory]

Listen, man, Willie Beeman threw a pick. I get it first throw every game. Like.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

You just gotta get in a rhythm. That's. That's what basketball is. So you don't understand that.

[Mal]

Yeah, Cole, just come sit down though, man. It's all right, man. It's all right. We gonna listen to your music. It's all good. Just do what you do best. Rap. That's it.

[Damaris]

You gotta go on tour. He gonna.

[Mal]

You know what I'm saying?

[Damaris]

His. His reference story system gonna. You get.

[Rory]

Get better.

[Mal]

There you go.

[Damaris]

Exercise. He going to be good.

[Mal]

There you go. That's his field. That's his arena right there.

[Damaris]

But after, he gonna go back to the Monkey Kings.

[Mal]

Like, no, he don't need to go back over there. Not, not to. He can go visit China, but don't go back to the Monkey Kings.

[Rory]

What if during his concert, like in the middle of his set, because he loves interacting with the fans, he brings fans on stage and they play like 21 or something.

[Damaris]

21 is mad long. Like 5 would be cool.

[Rory]

Or like a quick 2 on 2 or something.

[Mal]

Something.

[Rory]

And like Cole could get his shots in while he's also doing his tour. So he's killing super. Like.

[Mal]

Yeah. I will come in here and say it's the most innovative we've ever seen in rap.

[Rory]

I will say if JCole had fans on stage playing basketball against him during his concert at Madison Square Garden, yes, I would say that's. That's really cool. I think that would be cool as fuck.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

You know, you don't like it halftime when they. They try to give away the big check for the guy to hit the half court shot. It's entertainment.

[Mal]

Yep.

[Rory]

You wouldn't want to see a drunk ass fan against J. Cole mid show.

[Mal]

Nope.

[Damaris]

I can't wait to be drunk singing what we survived to let out. Oh, I'm gonna have a ball. Tickets bought, baby. It's lit.

[Mal]

That's your dream? To be drunk? Screaming will be survived.

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Mal]

That's it. That's what you're looking forward to?

[Damaris]

So I'm staying alive for sure.

[Rory]

You watch your tickets. Damn. I would have bought a ticket next to you.

[Damaris]

That's why I bought my ticket. Tell nobody.

[Mal]

Where's he at? The Garden.

[Damaris]

I'm going to see him at Barclays.

[Mal]

Barclays?

[Damaris]

Yeah. But is. He's at the Garden two nights. Barclays two nights. I think UBS arena, one night or two, I can't remember.

[Rory]

But yeah.

[Mal]

Shout out to cold man.

[Rory]

Yeah, City. What section are you in for? For the J.

[Damaris]

For the. Oh, they're having conversations. I'm too poor to understand.

[Mal]

Me. Yeah, I don't have tickets.

[Rory]

Okay. I'm at the Green Dot Fire. I'm excited.

[Mal]

Right where you need to.

[Rory]

To be paid.

[Damaris]

You bought those?

[Rory]

Bought one ticket.

[Mal]

I take one.

[Rory]

Why.

[Damaris]

Why wouldn't you buy two, though? So you could take somebody with you.

[Rory]

They're expensive.

[Damaris]

You Want resale?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

How much was a resale?

[Rory]

I'm. I don't want to admit how much it was. What do you want for me? Hey, man, I'm gonna try to find more. I doubt my. My GA ticket will get me there, but a wave be like, yo, we do a pod together. I know. I know him.

[Mal]

I give a.

[Damaris]

They ain't gonna give a. That's. I'm gonna be. That's the type of security you be scared of places like that. Terrified. I'm cool.

[Rory]

Oh, no, absolutely. Well, actually, I don't know, man. Me and my pop snuck down at the World Series to, like, damn near behind home.

[Damaris]

That's the World Series. That ain't the Jay Z shit at Yankee Stadium.

[Rory]

I agree. I'm just saying, a lot of the ticket ushers, you can get close. I'm not saying you get backstage. That's where Jazz, Navy Seals. But you could get closer. Yeah. Yankee Stadium still, they'll let the gaps. Yeah, they'll let you gaps.

[Damaris]

Gaps in their armor.

[Rory]

The good old days are still kind of there with Yankee Stadium gaps. Yeah. Buy a bleacher ticket, see how far you get. That's all.

[Mal]

And then if you lost, just say, you drunk, like, okay, now go this way.

[Damaris]

Yeah, okay.

[Rory]

No, go this way.

[Mal]

Go this way.

[Rory]

Start asking questions like, you at Citi Field and be like, sir, you're at the wrong place.

[Mal]

Mean, the Mets aren't playing tonight. What do you mean the Mets aren't playing?

[Damaris]

Do you guys have anything else you're looking forward to this summer? Like, I know. I'm really looking forward to Kehlani going on tour. I'm looking forward to seeing Cole finally. I'm looking forward to having a calm summer. Is there anything this summer you guys are looking forward to other than Jay album?

[Rory]

That's really where my focus. Yeah, no, that's pretty much it. But I think I'm at the age, like, I just don't get excited for things anymore.

[Mal]

Welcome.

[Rory]

I think that, like, it's just, like, it's passive.

[Mal]

Welcome to the club, man.

[Rory]

Like, excitement isn't there anymore.

[Mal]

Excitement is for rookies. Act like you've been here before. Put your game face on.

[Damaris]

I've been here long enough to understand that life is sure. And you should be excited about the little things.

[Rory]

No, I enjoy. No, I enjoyed.

[Mal]

What book did you read that in? Oh, I was reading.

[Rory]

That was an awesome offset the letter

[Damaris]

that was off the dome. Actually, my pin is kind of crazy.

[Rory]

I mean, I know I enjoy moments. I just don't get, like, excited for things. Like when I. When I'll get on the train to go see the Jay Z show, I'll be happy that I'm going to a Jay Z show. And, like.

[Mal]

But you're not excited.

[Rory]

Like, I'm not sitting here, like, with, like, an advent calendar, like, waiting. Wait, waiting for the.

[Damaris]

That's what gets me through. I have to have something to look forward to, to, like, power through. Like, that's why I continuously, like, plan vacations and things like that. It's like, okay, I have this vacation. Like, don't quit your job. Like, go to work.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Like, you have to pay for it.

[Rory]

No, I get that.

[Damaris]

Otherwise, I would just, like, sleep. You got to look forward to things

[Rory]

in life kids take excitement away from. Because excitement is that you can't even, like, think about the next day just trying to get through this one and not have this child, like, hurt themselves.

[Damaris]

So the album's coming out this summer?

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I don't have, like, an official date, but Rory's album. I mean, I have a date for the next single for the video that I shot with Lucky Day and Black Odyssey.

[Damaris]

When is that?

[Rory]

I'll say that on a different part, but okay, I have the date.

[Mal]

Dope.

[Damaris]

So album before the end of the summer?

[Rory]

Oh, yeah, for sure.

[Damaris]

No, I'll release party before the end of the summer.

[Rory]

Yeah. But I might just do it in, like, Brit's backyard. Like.

[Damaris]

Oh, it's gonna be in la.

[Rory]

Most likely. Yeah. Because everyone that worked on the albums out there, I'd rather, like, do it with everybody. Everyone there.

[Damaris]

We'll try, but.

[Rory]

I know, but I think, like, I think we should do the pod like that Thursday there and then stay till Sunday or something.

[Mal]

Fire.

[Rory]

Yeah, I think we could do that.

[Damaris]

Yes, sir.

[Rory]

We could all stay at my cousin's house.

[Mal]

Just.

[Rory]

Just us, though. No plus ones after hours. It's not that type of party.

[Damaris]

Well, me and my plus one will probably. If I have a plus one, we'll get a hotel. But I mean,

[Mal]

need that hotel.

[Rory]

Will we survive?

[Mal]

Need that hotel.

[Damaris]

Will we survive the blood out?

[Mal]

Will she survive the pull out? She survived. I'm not saying you baby D. I'm just saying. Well, she. Whoever she may be. Well, she survived the pull. Well, she survived. Oh, we survived. You know how this go, man? Oh, man. I got my tickets for the Michael Jackson movie.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mal]

Yeah, man, I can't. I'm looking forward to that. I might be excited about that.

[Rory]

So I heard a crazy rumor that. I mean, I don't know If I'm allowed to say with the Michael Jackson thing. But they had to spend a shit ton of money. Okay. You have the shit up here. So this is kind of common knowledge of things were cut out. I heard the end of the. Of the movie was supposed to be Mike in the mirror and all, like, the cop cars, like, about to swarm Nether Netherland and all that to go see, like, what his dick looked like if it matched the. The testimony. And then it cuts. But I guess the family was like that. And yeah, $15 million worth of reshoots.

[Mal]

They got it.

[Rory]

That would have been a shitty ending for the Michael Jackson movie.

[Damaris]

Yeah, well, I think it has a part two, so that's why he's gonna have a part two.

[Mal]

It's gonna be another movie.

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Mal]

Oh, wow. Okay.

[Rory]

This one, I'm. I'm nervous for why I love the NWA movie. It came out great, but if it ended up, like, not hitting the mark, like, it would have been unfortunate. But we've seen biopics not land. This is the Michael Jackson. Like, even have the ball to do the Michael Jackson movie is crazy to me.

[Mal]

That's why I said, I. I don't know if. Cause you know, we hear things that Janet wasn't mentioned in the movie. She's not in it. So I even was like, is there anything with Janet is saying we shouldn't support this? No, I haven't seen that, but I haven't seen that.

[Rory]

Well, I mean, the state already made them change the ending.

[Mal]

Yeah, but if Janet was to come out tomorrow and be like, yo, don't support this movie. I'm like, damn, Janet, I love you, but I'm still gonna see it.

[Rory]

I mean, I love Lil Kim, but she came out and said, don't see Notorious.

[Mal]

And I saw it in theaters.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Yeah, Saw Notorious in theaters.

[Rory]

I think I saw Notorious in theaters.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I saw Notorious in theaters.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

No, I didn't see Notorious in theater.

[Rory]

Notorious was what really wasn't a bad movie. I just felt like it was too soon.

[Damaris]

Yeah, you always say that, but I just disagree with you.

[Rory]

It's a good movie. It is a really good movie.

[Mal]

Paris Jackson said the film is not accurate.

[Damaris]

Okay, yeah, we said that. Well, Rory wasn't here, but yeah, Paris said the film's not accurate.

[Rory]

I like the trailer.

[Damaris]

It's very fan driven. Like, if the movie is for his fans, it's not accurate. Like, basically, it's catering to his fandom, is what she said.

[Rory]

Okay, is that. I mean, I don't know. Is that bad?

[Mal]

I mean, it's not. But I understand what his daughter is saying. Like, it's. If you're gonna make the Michael Jackson movie, it should be about Michael Jackson, not about the fandom of Michael Jackson. So I can understand that. I get that.

[Rory]

But even then, if you have the estate not wanting certain things to be involved, like, that kind of has to be your approach, though. But. Yeah, I don't know. This one is. There's just too much that goes with the Michael Jackson story outside of music that I'm just curious what. How they're gonna go about it, which is that. That. That's all.

[Damaris]

Yeah. That's why I think Paris is like this. This is just like. More like this is stuff that his fans want to see. This isn't like real life, like, how shit really affected him or what really how we were affected. Things like that. So.

[Rory]

Yeah. Yo, what Blanket be on? Like, what? Blanket be chilling? Just Blanket.

[Mal]

Blanket be chilling. How you know Blanket be chilling? Yo, Blake could be chilling. Like, word.

[Rory]

I think we've gotten so used to, like, knowing about celebrities, kids and that.

[Damaris]

Like, I just.

[Rory]

Yeah. What Blanket be on?

[Mal]

Yeah, for like, Paris and, like, Blanket and them to have, like, just.

[Rory]

I know. I love. I love that for them, like, that

[Mal]

they can to be Michael Jackson's kids. If Paris and Blanket walk past me right now, I wouldn't even know it

[Rory]

was not a. I would.

[Damaris]

I would recognize Paris Blanket, who's actually. He goes by bg, I think, or by. He changed his name to have more privacy. He focuses on filmmaking.

[Rory]

You can't walk in the bank and say, Blanket and no one turn be like, that's got to be.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

That kid could walk in here right now, and I wouldn't know that was Michael 0cl. Yeah. Well, that man. Excuse me. He would. He could walk in here right now, and I wouldn't know that was Michael Jackson.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And then. I mean, I know there's always been. Is that his biological child?

[Damaris]

I. I don't know. I wasn't there when they were.

[Rory]

I'm just asking. I think people can say, this is my kid, and it's not their kid.

[Mal]

That's true.

[Rory]

Like, Michael raised him. That's his father.

[Mal]

But he's a Jackson. Hey, it's my daddy's name. We got his blood on it. It's my daddy's name.

[Rory]

Just quickly, before we get out of here with BET Green lighting the Maury Povich, who's the baby daddy in this era, hear me out. With the amount of IG Influencers, celebrity. This could end up being a very funny show. Whereas Maury was people we did not know. They have an angle where people of notoriety on social media could end up being on this and it could be legendary. I'm just throwing it out there. It could. It could get nuts. It's a different era. It's a different time. This could get insane.

[Mal]

I like it.

[Rory]

Oh, I'm tuning in.

[Mal]

But now it has to be definitely tuning in. Can we vote to have the people on there, though? Like, who we think should go on next?

[Damaris]

No. Mal, you say?

[Mal]

Because I'm just saying, like, we just need to do that. Like, if they allow us to be like, nah, have so and so up there next week, then this show might be the greatest show on beat on beats. This might beat like Video soul and like six apart.

[Rory]

And like, of course, I'm not using to the level of offset trolling Carti saying that that's his kid. But imagine the level of like Cardi Stephan takes an offset offset doing this show. It would.

[Mal]

It would be.

[Rory]

Of course. Of course they wouldn't do it. But I'm saying at a lower level of them, of people that we still see on social media that go through this. Like they tell us without us asking,

[Mal]

bro, that would rival.

[Rory]

This would be the. Like this.

[Mal]

That would rival Trump numbers. You tell me. Cardi B offsetting Stefan on BET tomorrow on who's the baby Daddy?

[Rory]

I know that would never happen. I'm just saying.

[Mal]

Rivaling Trump's address to the union.

[Rory]

Are you sure?

[Mal]

Are you kidding me? Who's not watching that?

[Rory]

Who's not watching with Robert Kraft.

[Mal]

Yeah, I'm. Why you kidding me? I'm watching that.

[Rory]

No, but I do think the. The social media influencers they will end up on. I really do think it'll happen.

[Mal]

It has to.

[Rory]

And of course I get that the. The backlash. I get it. Who's the baby daddy?

[Mal]

Of course it's always backlash. Everyone's lashing the back. Oh, just watch the damn show.

[Rory]

And if people want to find out, why not?

[Mal]

I just think you can find out without going on Mory. But that's just me. We don't have to go. The Mori poets doesn't have to host and read like my DNA results. Like, you don't have to do that, but like tryouts for the cameraman. Yeah, you gotta. The camera guy. If they gonna have all of that. Oh, not bet one with this one. If they got a camera guy chasing the dude. The girl off stage when she finds out that the dude, she said is the father.

[Rory]

Could you not. You can't do the show without that.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's. That's. That's the.

[Rory]

That's the show. That's the button. That's.

[Mal]

Yeah. Make sure they have.

[Rory]

That's what we watch.

[Mal]

Yeah. How to write sneakers on and, yo,

[Rory]

the amount of Tick Tock dances that exist now. Let a dude find out that's not his kid and.

[Mal]

And have a dance.

[Rory]

A millionaire in a heartbeat because of Tick Tock.

[Mal]

Yeah. One of you would have a happy dance.

[Rory]

I think this show has a lot more potential in 2026 than we think it does. That's all.

[Mal]

I'm not mad at this. It's funny.

[Rory]

As you know, I'm tuning in.

[Mal]

I'm definitely watching it, though. 100%. All right, baby D, Good to see you.

[Damaris]

Good to see you, too.

[Mal]

Now you can go outside and enjoy the rest of your day.

[Damaris]

Oh, I'm going home.

[Mal]

You ain't going home. Shut.

[Damaris]

Y' all never believe me. Literally going home.

[Mal]

I'm.

[Rory]

That he's just dressed this way to just.

[Damaris]

God, it's nice outside. I'm going home, bro. I'm tired.

[Mal]

What you tired from?

[Damaris]

I'm just tired. I had. I've been. I went in the past week. I've been to Syracuse, D.C. and New York twice. Like, I've been traveling all week.

[Mal]

You've been to New York. You live in New York.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but I went from one place to the next, back home, just to hop on a train, just to come go to work, hop on a plane. Like, I've been moving around. I haven't sat in my house for more than a day in a week. So I'm tired.

[Mal]

All right. My bad. Booked and busy. Sound like you complaining.

[Damaris]

I am.

[Mal]

Don't complain. Be happy. Be grateful. You get to go to D.C. yeah. You get to go to Syracuse. You get to go home to a home. Count your blessings. Don't let them count you until next week. We'll talk to y' all soon. Be safe, be blessed. I'm that nigga.

[Rory]

He's just ginger.

[Mal]

Peace.

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[Rory]

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[Mal]

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[Rory]

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[Mal]

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