Episode 481 | Women Can Be Wrong

Summary

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New Rory & MAL

Episode 481 | "Women Can Be Wrong"
Release Date: April 16, 2026
Hosts: Rory, Mal, Baby D
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts & The Volume

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Episode Overview

This episode blends classic New Rory & MAL energy: random hot takes, irreverent humor, brutally honest personal stories, listener calls, and a comedic debate on gender, relationships, lust, and accountability. The central theme—sparked by a listener voicemail—asks, "Can women be wrong?" The hosts riff on viral moments in culture, strip club economics, the perils of 'the lust demon,' and dive deep into dynamics of modern dating, fatherhood, communication, and what really happens behind closed doors (and sometimes, on the podcast).

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Key Discussion Points & Segments

Hospital Nights, Depression, and DoorDash Toes

[02:47 – 09:45]

• Rory shares a rough night at the ER with his child Amara's ear infection, recounting both nostalgia and the rough reality of local hospitals vs. expectations.
  • Memorable: "I hadn't been in a project-esque hospital in a long time." – Rory [06:17]
• Mall asks about ear infections and tonsils; the whole crew reminisces about childhood illnesses.
• The crew segues hilariously into seasonal depression, with Baby D's mood swings offering proof to Mal.
  • “The sun come out and suddenly you're just a happy person.” – Mal [07:11]
• Feet economy: A viral DoorDash driver gains more tips by flashing her feet in order photos, prompting musings on ‘Footers,’ a Hooters-style foot-fetish restaurant.
  • “She tapped into a whole nother thing. Like, show that foot… it probably was a happy accident.” – Mall [08:32]
  • “Why hasn't anybody come up with ‘Footers’? Like Hooters, but for feet?” – Baby D [09:17]

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Strip Clubs, Lust Demons, and BYOB Madness

[09:46 – 22:35]

• They debate the hierarchy and vibe of strip clubs in New York, Vegas, and Atlanta, distinguishing between ‘gentleman’s clubs’ and ‘sleazy’ establishments.
  • Discussion about clubs where women work as both food caterers and dancers, with humor around ‘selling food and pussy:’
    • “Oh, so she sell like food and pussy. That’s dope.” – Baby D [14:41]
• BYOB strip club tales: “No, BYOB strip club is nuts.” – Rory [13:53]
• Lust as a financial liability:
  • “I’ve realized that lust… will cost you so much money and energy.” – Baby D [16:30]
  • The group agrees most men lose fortunes pursuing fleeting pleasures.
  • “The only thing stopping y’all from getting a down payment on a house is whores.” – Rory [20:51]
• They joke about the liberating power of resisting desire:
  • “You look that lust demon right in the face and you decide you’re gonna stay home… You wake up and you feel like you just glowing.” – Mall [19:53]

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NY Stories, Background Gigs, and Paparazzi

[22:36 – 33:17]

• New York oddities: Opening beers at red lights, accidental wedding photo shoots on the subway.
• Discussion about the economics of being an extra in productions or fake fans outside hotels:
  • “I wanted to be one of those people they hire to wait outside celebrities’ hotels and ask for autographs.” – Mall [25:24]
• Paparazzi and celebrity sightings:
  • “There was paparazzi everywhere… How did anyone know about this?” – Rory [28:31]
• Birthday plans: Seeking the perfect trip but foiled by time and parenthood. Wild suggestions like a “three-day Tokyo turnaround” are hilariously rejected.

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Culture & TV: 50 Cent Documentary and Landman

[36:50 – 54:32]

• Announcement: Hulu is prepping a three-part 50 Cent documentary; debate whether 50 will be objective or give us “VH1 Behind the Music 50 Cent.”
  • “Allowing 50 to do [his own doc] would be super funny. That would be the most one-sided documentary of all time.” – Rory [37:15]
• Speculation about which behind-the-scenes stories will be included, and whether adversaries or only G-Unit loyalists will appear.
• 50 Cent’s (supposed) bankruptcy is discussed in the context of celebrity lawsuits, perception vs. reality.
• Landman TV Show:
  • Rory praises the show’s depth, especially awkward, honest conversations about teenage sexuality between parents and children.
  • “I would always love to be that support… It’s just this topic—talking about your boyfriend. I wish that would be more of a mom subject, but I get it.” – Rory [47:52]

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Voicemails: Can Women Be Wrong? & Car Confessionals

[65:41 – 85:55]

1. "Can Women Be Wrong?"

A Charlotte listener calls out Baby D for never holding women accountable, specifically referencing the cultural piling-on of Jada Pinkett Smith.

• “Is there any scenario where a woman can be wrong? Like, she could just be full wrong?” – John [65:47]
• The panel bickers—Baby D insists women can be wrong, but context and social conditioning matter.
• “He asked, can women be wrong? And she went to humans.” – Rory [67:29]
• Baby D: “Women can be wrong. I do not stand up for all women when women do wrong shit… But sometimes what y’all may look at as wrong for a woman, it might not seem wrong and vice versa. But yes, sir, women can be wrong. I said it.” [70:45]

2. Relationship Status Lashed Out in the Car

A listener recounts a birthday ruined by a friend’s girlfriend who questioned his situationship status in front of everyone.

• “So she was like, why are y’all not like official?… Now I'm looking at my homie like, bro, if you don't put a muzzle on this…” [80:52]
• The hosts agree: Terrible timing, but not worth crashing out over.
  • “It's not a crash out. But it’s definitely a get out.” – Mall [84:45]
  • Baby D: “Women can be wrong. Name of the episode!” [83:59]

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Sex, Chemistry & Crying in Missionary

[86:33 – 93:40]

• When does a situationship become a relationship? Baby D confesses to being “Ms. Spin the Block”—jumps into relationships after the first or second date.
• Sex and emotion:
  • Mal claims, “The best relationships are the ones where you hit on the first night.”
  • Debate on whether crying during sex is real or rare, resulting in hilarity:
    • “I didn’t even know men cried during sex.”
    • “If y’all both cry together… that’s a different level.” – Baby D [92:02]
    • “Any sex that’s gonna have me… crying tears into her eyes… keep that away from me!” – Mall [89:50]
• Good sex as a drug: Mall and Rory compare addictive relationships to meth, ultimately voting for the power of "good sex."

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On the 'lust demon' draining your bank account:
  • “The only thing stopping y’all from getting a down payment on a house is whores.” – Rory [20:51]
• On fatherhood and honest sex talks:
  • “I would always love to be that support… but … talking about your boyfriend—I wish that would be more of a mom subject.” – Rory [47:52]
• On Podcasters being ‘talkers’ not ‘stalkers’:
  • “Remove the S. They’re podcasters. They don’t have no cameras. They just can’t afford any.” – Mall [78:22]
• On gender & accountability:
  • “Women can be wrong!” – Baby D [70:45]
  • “Ladies and gentlemen, today we are back to back. This is like Aaron Judge going back to back… Two times that Baby D has admitted that.” – Mall [71:24]
• Crying during sex:
  • “Any sex that’s gonna have me crying, keep that away from me!” – Mall [89:50]
  • “I didn’t even know men cried during sex.” – Mall [90:25]
• On handling awkward moments in relationships:
  • “I don’t think it’s a crash out situation. I don’t think you should crash out because… you crashing on that girl is definitely going to ruin your birthday.” – Rory [84:25]
• On podcasting and dating:
  • “The type of people I tend to be attracted to are lower profile, like, quieter people. A lot of people can't deal with a girl making men laugh on Netflix.” – Baby D [74:07]
• On 'Footers', Hooters-for-feet:
  • “I deliver the meat. Show my feet. While I deliver you the meat.” – Mall [09:33]

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Running Jokes & Tone

• Signature self-deprecating humor and gentle roasting throughout.
• Running sex and relationship jokes, especially around “the lust demon,” gender accountability, and crying during sex.
• The panel maintains playful banter, punctuated with moments of sincerity about family, mental health, and how the podcast influences their personal lives.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [02:47] – Show starts in earnest (post-ads), hospital stories
• [07:01] – Depression, mood, and feet economy
• [09:46] – Strip clubs, sleaze vs. “gentleman’s,” and lust
• [16:30] – The cost of lust: financial and emotional
• [22:36] – Odd NY stories and how fake fans get paid
• [36:50] – News: 50 Cent doc on Hulu announced
• [46:31] – “Landman” TV discussion & awkward sex talk with teens
• [65:41] – Voicemail: Can women be wrong? (Main title theme)
• [80:02] – Voicemail: Is it valid to be mad if a friend's girl brings up relationship status?
• [86:33] – Dating, first-date sex, and people crying during sex
• [93:29] – Transition to Patreon

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Closing Thoughts

“Women Can Be Wrong” finds New Rory & MAL at their best: transparent, chaotic, funny, and occasionally thought-provoking as they pull apart relationships, accountability, and the absurdities of 2020s pop culture and modern dating. The episode’s loose structure delivers plenty of entertaining tangents, but always circles back to the central question of gender, honesty, and whether public perceptions about women and men are fair or hopelessly skewed by memes—and podcasts.

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Transcript

[Baby D]

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[Baby D]

No Warrior now.

[Rory]

Conduct.

[Baby D]

Warrior.

[Rory]

And we're back.

[Mall]

We are back.

[Rory]

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[Mall]

We're back. And we're black.

[Rory]

Yeah, well, not all of us.

[Baby D]

I never left.

[Mall]

We use that. You slept last night?

[Baby D]

Yeah, in the bathroom.

[Mall]

Oh, okay.

[Baby D]

You know me.

[Rory]

I'm. I'm on my second cup of coffee. Amara got her first ear infection last night. So nice. You know those fun, fun nights in

[Mall]

the hospital in er.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

That was very fun. Yeah. Poor baby reminded me back in the day, I used to get a lot of ear infections of a kid.

[Mall]

I did, too. It's funny how that works. Like, the doctor told me, if he gets another one, we're gonna have to take his tonsils. Never got one again. I think that was my body's way of saying, you ain't taking my tonsils. Like, I ain't having it.

[Rory]

Oh, I got an ear infection all the way up into college, but that was my fault because I slept on a, like, cold floor at Dell State, and I had a cold, so I think that's probably why. But, yeah, I had ear infections all the way. All the way through my childhood into adult years.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Mall]

You still got your tonsils, though.

[Rory]

I do, yeah.

[Baby D]

I don't. What do ear infections feel like? I don't.

[Rory]

They're very painful.

[Mall]

It's just pressure. Whatever ear, like this side or whatever side. And then it's like you get, like, a cough, and, you know, it's like strep, maybe strep throat, because it's all connected, like, ear, mouth, ear, nose, and throat. Ear, nose, and throat. So.

[Baby D]

Damn. I think the only time I ever felt like that is when Rory gave us all Covid in Atlanta. That's how I knew I was, like, sick. Because when we were landing in Atlanta, the pressure from the plant, like, I felt like my eardrum was about to explode. I had never felt like that.

[Mall]

I don't think that was covered, though. I don't think that was on a list of symptoms.

[Rory]

Yeah, I don't think it was at all.

[Mall]

I don't know if air pressure was. I don't know.

[Baby D]

You just said it's all connected, and I was sick. I was really, really. Like, I was getting sick, but I never noticed it until, like, I felt that pressure when I was. That was the first symptom that I felt was that pressure.

[Mall]

Ryan was patient one for coverage. Do you know that in the world.

[Rory]

He's really not. He's not making a racist joke. He's not joking. I thought mom made that comment the other day. No, he legitimately was the first. This is not like, first person in

[Mall]

the US With COVID First.

[Rory]

First American. You're fucking lying. Which. Which made me wonder, like, we have to do a better background check for Ryan. He may work for the CIA.

[Baby D]

How did you know?

[Rory]

He's just a fan of podcasting and DJing.

[Baby D]

Nah.

[Rory]

No, he worked at this. A plant.

[Mall]

He worked at the hospital where where the flights from China came in and they were like quarantining the people that were on the flight. He worked at the front desk and so he got sick like the next day and they didn't even know what it was like. I missed two weeks of school and they missed two weeks of school.

[Rory]

You should have missed six months. Yeah. Saved us all. You and Tom Hanks.

[Mall]

So safe to say that he was patient. He's patient zero.

[Baby D]

You just happen to be Chinese. That's terrible.

[Mall]

He is. Well, Trump tried to tell y'.

[Rory]

All.

[Mall]

Y' all called him racist. Right? This is how history. This is go back to history. Trump tried to tell y' all where it came from.

[Rory]

Calling it the Kung Flu was racist, but it was also funny.

[Mall]

I mean, China. It's from China. China.

[Rory]

I mean, it was the Wuhan bar. Like, come on, man, if you say it's Chinese, it's not being racist, but you know, you know, it is what it is. And whatever happened, China came from China. But yeah, I listen, I took. I've never been to the Hoboken ER before, but, you know, I just assumed Hoboken, nice area. I. I forgot that things in the middle of the projects. Oh, everyone, Everyone was great. Yeah.

[Mall]

I never knew that they.

[Rory]

They tuck them away away from, you know, that main strip of bars, but.

[Mall]

Oh, I never knew.

[Rory]

Yeah, I hadn't been in. In a project esque hospital in a long time.

[Mall]

Did they have you in there all night or.

[Rory]

For the most part, yeah.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Rory]

Yeah, a lot of meltdowns. A lot, A lot of stabbings. A lot of people coughing without covering their mouth.

[Mall]

Oh, I mean, that's just a regular day at the er.

[Rory]

Yeah, but I mean, either way, she's fine now.

[Mall]

All right.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Well, that is good. We are back.

[Rory]

They haven't changed the medicine, by the way. Still the pink one. Still the pink stuff.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Rory]

Still the same stuff. Smells exactly the same too.

[Mall]

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[Rory]

On the flicks.

[Mall]

Yeah, on the flicks. Catch us on the Netflix.

[Baby D]

So Mal said something to me yesterday

[Mall]

that was in confidence and I don't even know what you about to do.

[Baby D]

I'm not talking about that.

[Mall]

I'm talking about the other day to

[Baby D]

me on Monday, like, because I came in, I'm super high energy. Like, you know, it was the first nice day. Like, I'm excited. I'm dressed up, cute, and Mal says, damn, Damaris, you really do suffer from seasonal depression. Like, the sun come out and suddenly you're just a happy person.

[Mall]

Sun's out. Buns out.

[Baby D]

Right? I'm like, now you believe. We've been trying to get you to believe in depress for five years on this podcast, but now you see.

[Mall]

I didn't say I don't believe in depression. I never said that.

[Rory]

I think we could find years that

[Mall]

I don't believe in depression. I don't think. I don't think I've ever recorded art

[Rory]

of you saying, I don't think I've ever said I don't kick you off. I was about to say, there's a reason why I do the better help ads.

[Mall]

No, that was suicide.

[Rory]

Well, they can go hand in hand.

[Mall]

Well, yeah, they're like cousins. But I'm just saying, like, I don't. You know me. I'm like, talk to me.

[Rory]

They're probably like siblings before.

[Mall]

Yeah, absolutely. But I believe in depression. Yeah, Yeah, I know. Depression is real. I didn't know that you had seasonal depression, though, until Monday. I found that out. I was like, oh, that's what it is, Damaris. Mood changes whenever the sun's out.

[Baby D]

Sun is out.

[Mall]

Warm weather, you get to wear less clothing. You get to show the toes. Whenever the toes is out, you happy. I noticed that about you. As long as you got your feet out, you happy.

[Baby D]

Socks are suffocating.

[Rory]

Did you guys see the doordash driver that was putting her toes in the photo?

[Baby D]

Dropping food, getting tips.

[Rory]

You get more tips.

[Mall]

She had nice feet.

[Rory]

That's Jeep. She had great feet.

[Mall]

Yeah, she had nice feet.

[Rory]

She knows that's a genius at work. Like, someone needs to hire for some other market.

[Mall]

For her to find out she needs

[Rory]

to be in the building.

[Cal Penn]

Yeah.

[Mall]

She tapped into a whole nother thing. Like, show that foot. Like, oh, okay. Because it probably was a happy accident.

[Baby D]

Probably happened once you got a big ass tip.

[Mall]

Yeah. Someone maybe commented, oh, shit, I didn't know my foot was in that picture. Right. Big tip. Like, hold up. She know how much people make online showing their feet.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

She know how much you can make as a doordash delivery person? Tips are big. Greatest president ever. No tax on tips, right? Can't tax the tips no more. I'm just saying she found a loophole. Oh, let me slip my foot in here every now and then and just let me gate. Because what they say at the behind the bar, the bigger the tits, the bigger the tip, bigger the Tits bigger the right.

[Rory]

They say that there's a whole restaurant based on that.

[Mall]

You know what I'm saying? So at doordash, he's probably like, show the feet. Whatever's after that.

[Baby D]

I don't know why, but why hasn't anybody come show your feet.

[Mall]

I deliver the meat. Show my feet. While I deliver you to me.

[Baby D]

Why hasn't anybody, like, come up with footers? Like Hooters, but for feet?

[Mall]

So what are they gonna do? Walk around with their feet out? Yeah, but everybody ain't got and, like,

[Baby D]

serve you the mozzarella sticks with, like, the toes.

[Rory]

I mean, I know there's a world out there for that, but they can. They can keep that one somewhere else.

[Mall]

Yeah, I don't want to go to footers because. Because then it's. Because then you know what happens as the manager, if I'm the manager of footers and now I have to vet the nice feet if I, you know, say a lot. We don't really like your feet. Guess what? They hit me with discrimination. It's because I'm black. No, it's because you have ugly feet. We can't have ugly feet at Footers. Right. But look how fast it'll turn into. Oh, they didn't like me because I'm black. I'm dark skinned. No, it's not you. Just your feet, man. I can't have those feet delivering food. I mean, it's just, you know, pretty feet, pretty neat.

[Rory]

You know, the. The Vegas loophole. Somehow that they get away with. All the waitresses are not hired as wait staff. They're hired as models. So they're allowed to determine, like, if they get fat. It's like, no, I'm hiring you as a model. You don't fit our aesthetic, which is legal when you're doing model shit.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Rory]

Like, yeah, you don't fit. They're protected for our shoot.

[Mall]

They're protected, though. They gotta be protected.

[Rory]

Well, you know, Vegas has different laws. Yeah. I don't know how they get away with it, but, like, yeah.

[Mall]

Cause if I open the footers and I say, yo, nah, you gotta do it in Vegas. Yeah, gotta do it in Vegas. Start your business in Vegas and it will flourish.

[Rory]

Yeah. Or open the strip where they just show. Strip.

[Baby D]

I was having a conversation with someone who said that Floyd Mayweather. Floyd Mayweather had opened a strip club in Vegas. And I was just wondering why he would do that. Like, there's, like, for sale in Vegas. Like, I'm not, like, if I want to see, like, naked women Like, I'm just gonna pay to them. I'm skip the middle.

[Rory]

Well, I mean, that's. That's usually like the flirting stage of prostitution in Vegas. Like, you just take them out the strip club and allegedly. Yeah, like, they're all the strippers usually are working. Whereas other places, some people are working, some people are stripping.

[Baby D]

Okay.

[Rory]

They're all working. So, yeah, that's like the flirtation. That's like their LinkedIn page is when they're stripping.

[Baby D]

But I just feel like if you're gonna go to Vegas, like, I don't want to go to, like. Like, I don't want to go to a nice strip club in Vegas. Like, I want to go to something like, sleazy. Like, Vegas gives me sleaze, you know?

[Mall]

You want to go to a sleazy strip club?

[Baby D]

I'm not gonna go to a strip club in Vegas. Right. But I'm saying if I was a person who went to strip clubs in a place like Vegas, I would want, like a sleazy one. No.

[Mall]

Why do you want a sleazy strip club in Vegas?

[Rory]

Get to know the local.

[Baby D]

Well, Vegas is sleazy. No.

[Mall]

What do you mean by sleazy, though? I don't. What does that mean?

[Baby D]

Like, like, like you can probably like, smoke cigarettes in there and there's like, probably like a Russian mail order bride and they're like, stripping. Like, it's like sleeves.

[Rory]

Like, it's not really sex trafficked.

[Baby D]

Yeah. Like, it's not King of Diamonds Monday. Like, it's not that. It's, you know, it's like, it's not a gentleman's club.

[Mall]

Yeah, Nothing. Vegas would be a gentleman.

[Rory]

Yeah, it would be like.

[Baby D]

It would be a gentleman's club.

[Rory]

Okay, well, they have like, what, like

[Mall]

29 is not a gentleman's club.

[Baby D]

No, that's a strip club.

[Mall]

That's a strip club.

[Rory]

Okay. But like, out here, I feel like that would be called a strip or a gentleman's club. Whereas starlets would be a strip club.

[Baby D]

Yes.

[Rory]

Does that make sense?

[Baby D]

Yes.

[Mall]

I don't even know why it's just considered a strip club. Because you don't take nothing off.

[Baby D]

Well, we have that.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Baby D]

I mean, they take stuff off, but they take off or they come out naked, don't they? They don't really take installation.

[Mall]

Ain't nobody naked.

[Baby D]

Not naked. But I mean, like in there, you

[Mall]

see a girl naked in Starling, she got bills. Bills. Like, she like the laws. The law she got.

[Rory]

You can show Ariela out there, though.

[Mall]

Install it. Yeah, I Don't think I've ever seen areolas install it. I've never seen nipples installers. I don't think it's pasties.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah. Maybe there's spaces.

[Baby D]

I would assume if you're going to a strip club in Vegas, you will want sleazy. Not like, big, like, you know, not like black women with fat asses. I don't think people go to Vegas to see that. I think.

[Mall]

I'm thinking, no, not in Vegas.

[Baby D]

Nah. Skinny white girls.

[Mall]

Vegas is a classy town with cigarette

[Baby D]

burns is what I would assume you will find in Vegas.

[Rory]

So coke town for sure.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Mall]

A BYOB history. Yeah. In Texas.

[Baby D]

That's crazy.

[Mall]

What was it? Onyx? I think it was.

[Rory]

No Onyx.

[Mall]

Isn't BYOB one of those strip clubs in Dallas was byob. I don't know if it was Onyx or. You show like you don't sell alcohol. No. Texas, you can get fully naked.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

You could shoot a golf ball out of your. In Texas.

[Mall]

Yeah. I've seen somebody do it.

[Rory]

Hole in one. Yeah. Yeah.

[Mall]

That's a part.

[Baby D]

At first, growing up in New York, going to strip clubs, and finally a strip club out of town. And, like, I'm seeing Cervix. That was an experience for me.

[Rory]

Well, in Atlanta, when we went for edn's birthday, I think that was a BYOB joint, wasn't it?

[Mall]

In Atlanta?

[Rory]

Yeah, it wasn't. Oh, no, because we did Bob. Yeah, we did Bob. Okay.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

No, BYOB strip club is nuts.

[Baby D]

Y' all took Ed into a strip club and bought a bottle for his birthday. I love bitches. Y' all never took me to no strip club.

[Rory]

No, no. What was funny was.

[Mall]

No, he had. He had, like, some. I think he has some friends with him, Right?

[Rory]

Yeah. Okay, so I'll tell the story without giving too much, and I think we've told this story with him here already. There was people that catered our. Our green room in Atlanta with amazing food, and then they were like, oh, we're gonna go with the strip club. We're like, oh, it's Eden's birthday. Let's. Let's go. Let's go. They also. They were entrepreneurs. They were working at the strip club, as well as talent. Oh, not. They weren't catering.

[Mall]

Oh, yeah. That's what it was. One of them was working at the strip club. Yeah, she worked at that club. Because that's how we even got it found out. And I was like, okay, we'll go over there. That's what it Was.

[Baby D]

Oh, so she sell like food and pussy. That's dope.

[Mall]

Well, I'm not gonna say she sells.

[Rory]

Yeah, I didn't see her do any of that.

[Baby D]

Or the idea of.

[Rory]

I'm sorry, the idea of.

[Mall]

Yes, she's a sex worker.

[Rory]

And that didn't even seem like the strip club where they were selling. It was like a. It was a cool truck driver.

[Mall]

Let me tell you. Every strip club.

[Rory]

No, come on. See, now you're snitching.

[Mall]

No, now we gotta clean it. I'm just saying, every strip club. I didn't snitch on it. Yeah, not a particular one. I didn't name nobody. Every strip club ever strip club, somebody's in there selling. I can promise you that.

[Rory]

Anything, just not on the premise.

[Baby D]

Somebody selling and somebody's selling coke.

[Mall]

Oh, for sure. You got to have one and you got to have the other. Now it's like you go out to eat. Where's the spoon? Right? If I.

[Rory]

Some people go to eat with their hands, others want utensils.

[Mall]

Yeah, I need utensils. Where's the coke? Where's the.

[Voicemail Caller]

Where's the.

[Mall]

Where's the hole?

[Baby D]

I just feel like life be feeling good enough. Y' all be wanting to feel too good, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, there's a such thing like Lamar Odom. Like there's a such thing as feelings too good. Like, why do you want to see a beautiful woman naked and. And. And be on drugs? And like just. I'm. I'm overstimulated by your happiness. Like, just chill. I'm the pleasure.

[Rory]

Like, I hear you on the Lamar Odom part, but you just took a shot at probably 95% of men when you said you see a beautiful women. You want to her while on drugs. That's like. It's the population. It's like everyone but mole.

[Mall]

Yeah, I don't need drugs to want to have sex with beautiful women.

[Rory]

Same, but I don't know. It's a honey pack.

[Mall]

A drug. Yeah.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I would say sometimes you need a drug to get the overall experience.

[Mall]

Yeah, I can see that. But fire enough. You don't need no drugs.

[Baby D]

I've realized that lust having a lust issue. I was just telling people.

[Mall]

Finally realize you got a lust issue.

[Baby D]

Having a lust issue will cost you. Oh, so it will cost you so much money and energy. Like if there's a. Like if there's a beautiful girl around, I will spend so much more money and so much more energy.

[Mall]

Oh, you a trick. Like, baby, I never knew you was a trick.

[Baby D]

Relax, baby.

[Mall]

A trick? What you mean you'll spend so much? That's, that's. That's tricklingo.

[Baby D]

So now I'm not even. I'm not even just talking about that. Yes, I spend money on women, right? But it's not even just that. It's more like, like, okay, so if me, you and Rory go out and we just going out as the fellas, right? Because I'm the fellas to y'. All, and we go to a bar, we have one or two drinks, whatever. If there is a bad bitch there, you know what? Hey, let's order another round. We're having a ball. Let's order another round. Oh, let's go here. Because you don't want to go home. Because it's a beautiful girl right there.

[Mall]

Like you're trying to get a drunk and take advantage of her.

[Baby D]

That's not.

[Mall]

That's what it sounds like, right?

[Baby D]

That is not true.

[Mall]

Get her drunk and unsuspecting and she doesn't know that I want to lick that cat and. Yeah, that's what it sounds like.

[Baby D]

I'm not.

[Mall]

Another round, another round, another round. Keep them coming. It's just like more shots.

[Baby D]

You know how when you're having so funny how time flies when you're having fun. When you're having fun and it's like the cute girls around you don't even notice how much you're drinking. You don't notice how much you're spending.

[Rory]

Like, okay, Baby D, a trick. I also just want to like do piece. Do like a quick 30 second reverse. Would you say alcohol is a drug? I would.

[Mall]

Drug, yes.

[Rory]

Tylenol is a drug.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Rory]

Alcohol is a drug. She just said she doesn't understand how people could want to take drugs, see a beautiful woman and want to fuck them.

[Mall]

Well, alcohol is not a drug. It's a controlled substance.

[Baby D]

Thank you.

[Mall]

Alcohol is a central nervous system.

[Rory]

The government named it that because it's. What it's a legal drug.

[Mall]

This means. Oh, hold on. Alcohol is a central nervous system depressant. This means that it is a drug that slows down brain activity. It can change your mood, behavior and self control. It can cause problems with memory and thinking clearly. So this means if Baby D is buying more rounds for the women, then she is hoping that it changes their mood, their behavior and that they lose self control so she can go home and do what she pleases with.

[Baby D]

You are literally painting me as it's right.

[Mall]

Then

[Rory]

like, what the fuck?

[Mall]

It's right. That was Lie. Oh, my bad, Ryan. I was reading something else, but no, for real.

[Baby D]

Like, real talk, real shit. Like, didn't y' all notice? Like, when y' all got y' all lust under control like, that you saved, like, money. Like, the amount of money you were spending.

[Rory]

Read your Bible, read your Quran. Read every history book. The fall of every single man in the empire is lust. All of it. The first lesson in the Bible. Lust. It'll ruin everything. Every powerful man is not. Not killed because of armies anymore. Just armies of whores.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So we can't.

[Mall]

We can't really kill that lust demon. You all right? You about you. You figured out 70 of life once you can control that lust demon. Like, when you know you're getting lusty and you like, I ain't going out. I ain't going to hang out with this chick. No, I ain't doing it. And then, like, you actually go through it, not going out. The next day you wake up, you feel like you just glowing. You, like, I can do anything. I can do. I said no to the. I couldn't do anything. Like, you could conquer the world.

[Rory]

I can do anything.

[Mall]

I can do anything. Hell, no. Hell, no. I can do anything. All you gotta do is say no to the lust demon. One time, you look that lust demon right here in the face and you decide you're gonna stay home and not go out. You wake up the next day, life is just different. You just feel like. Yeah, like you can't control me. You can't get me to just come outside and spend my money on you and just be a trick. I ain't no trick. Fight that lust demon. A lot of you is down bad for that lust demon.

[Rory]

You start adding up the money that you did save from last night.

[Mall]

Oh, my.

[Rory]

I got an extra $500 in my pocket now for a night I probably wouldn't have enjoyed, fam.

[Mall]

Listen, in New York, you easy it is to spend $500 on a girl that really don't like you.

[Rory]

Like that it costs $50 an hour to breathe out here without meeting the girl.

[Mall]

Stay. Stay home. Stay. No to that lust demon three days out the week. And watch how much money you save. You up 1,500. You up 1500. You say no to the lust demon three times.

[Rory]

The only thing stopping y' all from getting a down payment on a house is horse.

[Mall]

It's the lust demon.

[Rory]

100%.

[Mall]

The lust demon got y' all down bad, so I know what you mean, baby D. Like, you see a beautiful woman, you like, damn, I don't want this night. Then you know how much it costs to keep the night open. The night is expensive. Keep the night open. Yo, we gonna keep going. Yeah, wait till you lay down and see that bank statement in the morning you just swiping, dude. All right, good, you down bad, you down 25.

[Rory]

Take one night off and say less. And you got an llc.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Your dreams will start tomorrow.

[Mall]

That's a lot of dudes don't know that you. You down bad. Cause the lust demon is up. Lust demon winning 82. 0 every season.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Say no to that lust demon, fellas. Trust me. So, yes, Baby D, I get what you're saying. I'm fucking with you. But, yeah, you see a beautiful woman, it's like, damn, I don't. I'm like you. It's like when you go to a new city, you're like, I could live here. It's the same. It's the same thing. It's this. I can move here. It's the same thing. You see a beautiful girl. Like, I ain't. I'm never letting her go.

[Baby D]

The experience of being in New York City and you at, like, a dark, dark, dimly lit. Like, it's nice outside, it's dark, dimly lit, restaurant, good, drinks, bad bitch looking at you, you gigg. Like, the air feels fresh. That's the best feeling in the world, bro. It just costs 300 until it's the best feeling in the world.

[Mall]

Yeah, but until she laughed too hard and you see that side tooth is gone, you could pay for ain't the same. It don't hit the same no more.

[Baby D]

When. When you pay for the side tooth, it don't hit the same.

[Mall]

No. When you. Once you see that she need a side tooth, once the lust demon is like, it show you the side tooth is going. You like, all right, I'm going home.

[Baby D]

Ask.

[Rory]

Ask her to stay in one night for Netflix and chill. You could probably afford the side tooth for her.

[Mall]

Oh, yeah.

[Rory]

One night in with her, and you

[Mall]

could get in to the lush demon three times.

[Rory]

You could get her that porcelain right inside her.

[Mall]

Get a girl, you get a. Get a little replacement to fill in there. Fill that gap. Yeah, definitely.

[Rory]

You gotta fill her gap.

[Mall]

Fill that void in her life. Go ahead and fill that void for her. You know what I'm saying?

[Baby D]

The void being a side tooth is fucking hilarious.

[Rory]

The health starts with the gums.

[Mall]

Yeah, that's the biggest void right there. The side tooth gone. Come on. Nobody filled that void for you yet.

[Rory]

Because she's been Open Coronas.

[Mall]

Yeah, you got. You done been. You'd have been in church three times. Side two.

[Baby D]

Are you.

[Rory]

Y' all have never seen a woman open a bear with her mouth?

[Baby D]

Yes.

[Mall]

Nah. Let me tell you what I saw the other day, though. So I'm in traffic. A girl hops out at the light. I'm thinking she's in a car fighting. The way she hopped out and ran from the car. So I'm looking like, is she in there fighting? She runs to the median on the side of the. It's right here. What was, I think, Bowery or something. She takes a beer and puts it on, like, the rail of the median and is, like, banging it, trying to open a beer. I said, there's no way I'm looking. I was so puzzled by this. I was like, I've never seen this before. And then she runs back in the car. Naturally, I gotta look at the plates. Where's she from? Alabama. Makes total sense. Makes. I'm like, aw.

[Rory]

To her, she thinks that's a beer. Like, wow. New York just keeps these around.

[Mall]

There's bottle openers at every restaurant light. Like, to her, that's what she thought it was. I was like, I've never seen that before in my life. I'm like, you trying to open a beer at the red light?

[Rory]

At a red light.

[Mall]

I've seen a lot of things in New York.

[Rory]

Definitely open a beer on a sidewalk, probably on a medium before. Not, like, in traffic.

[Mall]

In traffic. At the red light.

[Rory]

I've opened beers on. On interesting angles of things.

[Mall]

Yeah. That was some of the craziest I ever seen at the light. I said, okay, I've seen it all now in New York City. Open a beer at the red light. Got it.

[Baby D]

I was in a couple's photo shoot today on the train. Gotta love New York. I was in a couple's photo shoot on the train. They had just gotten married and, like, trained.

[Mall]

That's fire.

[Baby D]

No, they didn't get married on the train, but they were taking the photos, like, you know, the New York City, like, photos.

[Mall]

They probably met on the train. That's probably why they did that. That's fire.

[Baby D]

That was sweet, but I'm, like, in the corner, like, trying, like. I'm like. They're like, no, we want people in it. You didn't hire me, like, right? Shoot. Like, I'm not just about to be. I'm Baby D. I mean, congratulations on the. The baby in the marriage, but I'm not just about to be in your.

[Rory]

What's your Extra fee.

[Baby D]

Wedding.

[Rory]

To be an extra.

[Baby D]

To be extra. How much did you pay?

[Rory]

Yo, I got my. My budget yesterday. We spent almost $6,000 in extras. I said, I'm. Yo, sign me up on Craigslist, wherever the y' all found them.

[Baby D]

How many were there?

[Rory]

20.

[Mall]

Oh, you got off cheap. So that's $30 an extra. Something like $300 an extra.

[Rory]

Yeah, probably somewhere around. You know, I'm not good at reading.

[Mall]

Yeah, they was there for the whole day.

[Rory]

No half days.

[Mall]

Okay. Yeah, that's about right.

[Rory]

And then we ended up just using all my friends. So they literally sat there, got a free meal, and got $300.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Baby D]

Oh, now I kind of like that I'm about to be an extra.

[Rory]

That's not a bad morning. No, like, for 300 bucks, you know

[Mall]

what I wanted to be? I wanted to be one of those people that they. They. When they hire you to, like, wait outside of, like, famous people hotels and, like, ask for autographs. I wanted to be one of those people. Like, how funny would you never heard

[Rory]

this vinyl in your life?

[Mall]

Y' all see my face, and I'm just outside of somebody's hotel just holding a vinyl like, that wouldn't be funny. If y' all look at one day, like, what the was maul doing, bro? 100 a day. That's what they paying.

[Baby D]

Oh, wow.

[Mall]

Need that.

[Rory]

Because I've definitely seen artists come out the hotel and be lying right to the person like, you. Someone told you where that person was.

[Mall]

Of course, y' all didn't see when doi just did that.

[Rory]

No, I didn't see when she did it, but I've definitely seen artists do that.

[Mall]

I was like, do you cut it out? That that old Italian man does not know who you are?

[Rory]

You don't know that.

[Mall]

Yo, bro, that the man was like,

[Rory]

sounds a little Italian, bro.

[Mall]

That's a doy. You know the Dolce. It's a dollie. They know what some black girl from Florida. It's a doll.

[Rory]

I'm crying.

[Mall]

She ran straight to that. Yeah, that's it right there. I was like, yo, cut it out. That man do not know who Dochi is, man. Those are definitely paid standards.

[Baby D]

Yo, the.

[Mall]

That labels, like, not saying do not dope, but she can't have.

[Rory]

I know. I know you're not saying the hotel, but that because plenty of artists.

[Mall]

This is it. I think. Yes, this is definitely. Look at this guy that she runs to. She makes a beeline, too.

[Rory]

Oh, shit. She looked the other way and went right there.

[Mall]

He don't know who she is.

[Rory]

He was yelling out her name, and that's how she got the. You know, don't you? Looks good. Yeah, she looks great. Yeah, but no, that would be. That would be.

[Mall]

It's a doll.

[Rory]

Chi Luigi right there with that Luigi.

[Mall]

It's a dog.

[Baby D]

Why do you really sound like Mario and Luigi? Please.

[Mall]

That's how it says. That's how. Dog. Dog.

[Rory]

Which artist would you want to do that for?

[Mall]

Any artist, as long as they paying. I stand outside every hotel in Manhattan. Like, you paying. I'm there. Cause that's a. That's a real gig. Standing up. That's a real gig.

[Baby D]

But how do you find that? Because I feel like that's kind of like back page. Cause you can't just like, you know, like, it's kind of like the labels do that, though.

[Mall]

Like, a lot of the labels, they'll have, like, yo, this person's staying here. We need you outside the hotel. You know, it's aesthetics. It makes people wonder who's standing? Like, who's staying here? Who are y' all waiting for? Like. Cause I've done that. Like, I've seen people stand outside of hotels and they waiting, and then they name somebody. I'm like, who?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Who is that? And how do y' all know that this person stay here?

[Rory]

Well, listen, when that happened with me and Yeet the other day, they was not paid. That line was here to see Yeet.

[Voicemail Caller]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Nah, but that's different. That was his listening stuff. So that.

[Rory]

That would be a fun. A fun gig to do. Yeah, but that's nothing new because the label's been calling paparazzi specifically for artists that don't even ask for them. Like, leave me alone. Nah. You got an album to promote. I'm leaking your address.

[Mall]

Get out there. Flood them streets. That's a new street team.

[Rory]

I was trying to figure out when. When Jay Z and Beyonce came to Palooza at Hammerstein. I'm not even. I mean, amongst us, like, three people knew.

[Mall]

Well, Beyonce didn't come.

[Rory]

Yeah, she was. She was there. She never made it up to where we were. Came in and then left.

[Mall]

She actually came in. I didn't know that. Okay.

[Rory]

There was paparazzi's. When we went out to, like, with security to bring them in. There was paparazzi's everywhere. I'm like, how the. Did anyone even know about this?

[Baby D]

Oh, please. As a good Doucet Palooza manager. You called them.

[Rory]

I. I would have.

[Mall]

I would have.

[Rory]

It's like, why didn't I.

[Mall]

You Gave them a drive.

[Rory]

No, I would never. I wouldn't do that. But I was very shocked of how, like, how did. This was a last minute decision. Like, not anyone, like, knew about it. This isn't like an event that I feel like paparazzi would be like, oh, Jay's gonna definitely be there. Maybe they followed from the office or something. Probably, like, is it just a tail, you think? But they were already there before Jay pulled up.

[Baby D]

I feel like Jay Z, Beyonce, Lady Gaga, Taylor Swift, Drake. I feel like they have like a designated paparazzi team whose only job is to, like, follow them around.

[Rory]

Like, if Jay tipped them off, then I appreciate, like, really appreciate that. No, not them.

[Baby D]

I don't think the artist is in control of that. I'm just saying, like, if I worked at tmz, I would have someone, Jay Z's in town.

[Rory]

Follow him.

[Baby D]

Wherever he goes, follow him. So, yeah.

[Rory]

But no, that just blew my mind of how, like, our little event, they was already waiting outside. Knew exactly what they was waiting for. That's creepy.

[Mall]

They was waiting for you. It was like, that's Rory. That's Rory over there. Follow him. Tell him.

[Rory]

Don't. Don't do that. Because that happened to me once.

[Mall]

See, I'm telling you. You famous, bro.

[Rory]

You don't remember when I came out of Delilah and they're like, tell us about the breakup. I was like, dog, Justin Bieber's in there.

[Mall]

Oh, yeah. Well, that's why.

[Rory]

What? You asking me any questions?

[Mall]

That's one of those places in, in la.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah. No, no. They just stand out there and whoever comes out, they ask questions. They happen to be somebody that knew about the box.

[Mall]

That's hilarious.

[Rory]

Yeah, it's just like when you have those type of people in there, it's like, why. Why are you talking to me right now?

[Mall]

Bieber's. Bieber's in there having dinner. Like, wait for him. Talk to that guy.

[Rory]

But anyways, my birthday's coming up. Speaking of strip clubs.

[Mall]

Your birthday is coming up?

[Baby D]

Yeah, May the fourth be with you.

[Rory]

I don't know what to do. I did Mexico City, which was just a lot because just traveling with a kid is just not. It did Detroit last year, which was a lot of fun, but I'm just not in that headspace anymore.

[Baby D]

I would hope not to be in

[Rory]

Detroit and go to strip clubs in Detroit. So I don't know. I don't know what to do. Part of me just wants to just chill, but I feel like by 4pm I'll be like, why Did I decide to just chill?

[Mall]

You should. You're not gonna go away?

[Rory]

I don't think we have time.

[Baby D]

We can make time. I will always find a way to make time for us to tap.

[Rory]

Not according to our contract.

[Mall]

It is.

[Rory]

No, it's on Eastern Standard Time. Our contract. It's longitude, latitude, it's down to everything.

[Mall]

But you could take. You could take the week off for your birthday.

[Rory]

I wouldn't want to do a week. That's a good question.

[Baby D]

Just take a Thursday off and then you have third, like I do. Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Or take a Monday off.

[Rory]

A good place to go.

[Baby D]

If you take a Monday off, you'll have Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday too.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah, yeah, Thursday. Your birthday's a Thursday, it's a Friday. I mean a Monday. I'm sorry. So I would. We could take Thursday off and I could come back on Tuesday.

[Mall]

Yeah, there you go. See?

[Rory]

Yeah, but where?

[Baby D]

No, what I'm saying, take Monday off. You don't even need to take Thursday off.

[Rory]

Oh, true.

[Baby D]

Yeah, take Monday off. Me and Maula hold it down.

[Rory]

But what, but where? Like where do I go?

[Mall]

Wherever your soul leads you, brother.

[Baby D]

There's mad places. How about you go to Tokyo? No, that's really far.

[Mall]

Tokyo is crazy, yo.

[Rory]

A little three day Tokyo trip.

[Mall]

Three day Tokyo turnaround is fucking nuts.

[Baby D]

Yeah, that's kind of funny.

[Mall]

Three day Tokyo turnaround, bro.

[Baby D]

You know.

[Rory]

You know Azad really tried to get me to do that for their first Tokyo show. He's like, I'll pay for it. I said, I'm not going to Tokyo for three days.

[Mall]

That is crazy.

[Rory]

I'm not flying in show the next day and leave. I'm not doing it.

[Mall]

It?

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Mall]

That's a 14 hour flight, bro.

[Rory]

Your brain would explode.

[Mall]

Nah.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Mall]

No, I'm not flying 14 hours to be on the ground for six hours

[Rory]

and then fly back not even know a date.

[Mall]

That is wild.

[Baby D]

Is there any place that you haven't been that you have thought about going?

[Rory]

Not with. With that amount of time.

[Baby D]

Nah, that's like four days.

[Rory]

That's not a lot of time to go.

[Baby D]

Like four or five days.

[Rory]

Fiji.

[Baby D]

Okay.

[Rory]

Like bucket list stuff.

[Mall]

I don't know, man.

[Rory]

Wherever the J elect show is, I'll just go there.

[Baby D]

That's depression.

[Rory]

Where's he at? Oklahoma City that night. All right, we out.

[Mall]

If you booing, you are the devil.

[Rory]

Is he wrong though?

[Mall]

No, he's not. I saw that clip of J. Like I was crying. I was thinking. He said, don't worry if you booing you are the enemy. Like I've never heard that at a show before. If you booing, you're the enemy. Holy.

[Rory]

I love Jay so much, man.

[Mall]

Oh, that's my guy right there.

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[Cal Penn]

everyone, it's Cal Penn. I'm the host of Irsay The Audible and iHeart Audiobook Club. This week on the podcast, I am sitting down with Ray Porter, the narrator of Andy Weir's audiobook project, Hail Mary, massive sci fi adventure about survival and science and what happens when you wake up alone, very far from Earth.

[Ray Porter]

I really had to make a decision because I caught myself getting that frog in my throat and starting to get teary as I'm narrating some of these sections and it's like, okay, yo, yo, yo. Is this indulgence? And I really thought about it.

[Mall]

I was like, no.

[Ray Porter]

At this point it would kind of be betraying the trust the author and the listener have in telling this story if I don't go through it. But there's places in this book that deeply, emotionally affected me and I left it on the mic. That's great because it served the story. People will say like, oh my God, I cried at the end. It's like, yeah dude, me too.

[Cal Penn]

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[Rory]

Anyways, in actual news, Hulu said three part 50 cent doc.

[Mall]

Hulu said three part 50 cent doc

[Rory]

dot Yep, that's what they're trying to do.

[Baby D]

Is 50 cent a part of it?

[Rory]

That's. That's where I'm. I was like, it's if 50 makes a doc about himself that the greatest doc of all time.

[Mall]

That is wild because I know people

[Rory]

have done that before, but allowing 50 to do that would be super funny. That would be the most one sided documentary of all time.

[Mall]

Yeah, but who's, who's doing it? They didn't announce it. They just announced a three part.

[Rory]

The doc doesn't have a title yet, but it's going to be directed by Manda and Lovett who's done several docs including Boys in Blue, Origins of Hip Hop, the French Montana Story.

[Mall]

The French Montana doc was good.

[Rory]

Yeah, it was actually way better than I expected, to be quite honest. So Yeah, I mean 50 has a very interesting story. I just don't know how much of it.

[Mall]

Very interesting. The most interesting stories like do you

[Rory]

think we'll get the real 50 Cent or do you think we'll get the VH1 behind the Music 50 Cent?

[Baby D]

We're definitely going to get the behind the Music. Them be mad in front of the Music, by the way.

[Mall]

I don't know. I mean the guy that's directing it, he's done a. He's done a good job. I mean, I haven't seen all of the other ones. Well, I did see the Boys in Blue one. That was good. And I saw the French Montana one, that was really good. So, I mean, listen, 50 Cent has one of the most interesting stories in our culture's history. I mean, you have somebody that's proven to make great documentaries. I mean, he might get it right, I'm pretty sure. And he might be working with 50 on it. I could see 50, like, you know, being somebody who he's in contact with.50's obviously gonna be in it.

[Rory]

Yeah, maybe he may not be.

[Mall]

Nah, 50 gonna be in the documentary.

[Baby D]

I don't see 50 being in a documentary that he's not. I don't see 50 helping someone produce a documentary that he's not a part of.50 would do his own job.

[Rory]

Yeah, with his own.

[Baby D]

With his own. Like, and like, I don't see 50 giving. Helping somebody make money off his name. That's not very 50ish.

[Mall]

He might be getting paid for it.

[Rory]

Oh, I'm sure there's some type of payment with likeness.

[Mall]

Yeah, he getting paid for it. So, I mean.

[Rory]

But yeah, again, I'm just interested if the people like, you know, 50s had a very interesting career with relationships. I don't mean romantically. I mean just with people in genuine it. People away from it. Like, are people that dislike him going to be in it? Is it just gonna be the people that were there in the beginning? And also the entire Jimmy Henchman thing is now legal paperwork that you can read on the Internet for free. It's public record.

[Mall]

But people that don't like you are not usually in your documentary. I've never seen somebody that don't like the person who's documented like, yo, that you came and sat down for this.

[Rory]

They gotta give Bangum Smurf at least an hour. Just let them go.

[Mall]

That's not gonna happen.

[Rory]

But I feel like even though shot.

[Mall]

Oh, look, the project is produced by

[Rory]

G. All right, Never mind.

[Mall]

So 50s involved.

[Baby D]

50 is the executive producer.

[Rory]

Yeah. Okay, great. All right, well then I think we'll get a lot out of this, but it'll be from a one sided lens.

[Baby D]

I don't know.

[Rory]

50 is objective behind closed doors. I don't, I don't think I've ever seen him be objective in public. And that doesn't allow other people that even.

[Mall]

What are you saying? Like, 50 is not. 50 is.

[Rory]

50 is a marketer. And he's always marketed himself in a truthful way. Like, I'm not saying 50 is a liar by any means, but part of his marketing is being this Superman.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Rory]

So, yeah, when you go through everything that he's also beat, I can see why you'd feel like a superman too. So I can see this doc just feeling that way.

[Mall]

But what in particular do you think this doc won't cover? Because it sounds like you kind of alluding to something that the doc won't talk about.

[Rory]

I think some of the stuff that's probably not on public record. Even though, like the Hot 97 shootings and the backstory with Kim and World, all that is public record. I just don't know how far and deep they'll get into it.

[Mall]

Every three part doc.

[Rory]

So everything with Game that led with Chris Lighting and Jimmy Henchman, again, all of this is on public record. Public record of Yale's house getting shot up. I'm not saying anything that you literally cannot find from court records. Is that gonna be a whole part of it? Because, like, people on the Internet know about that. If they go through that whole case in the part three, that's gonna do crazy numbers. That's the craziest story in my opinion, in hip hop, as far as street shit goes. That's still. They were shooting out on 26th Street. That. That's the wildest kept story that is public record that I at least know of in hip hop history.

[Mall]

That's the Lil Kim.

[Rory]

No, that Jimmy Henchman version.

[Mall]

Oh, okay. Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, that's nuts. Jimmy Henchman literally left a banquet dressed in a suit and shot up a house. Like he said this in court. Yeah, like that. Since he was the biggest exec, period. So I hope they get into that stuff because, I mean, I feel like we kind of have the 50 story. He's had books, he's had docs already. I think we kind of know his upbringing. I think we know the rise to stardom. I think all the way to Kanye. Verse 50. That's all been so well documented.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

But I don't know, maybe we'll get some more stuff since he's involved with his upbringing, his grandmother's house. I'm interested to see three parts.

[Mall]

It gotta be a lot in there. There's three parts, so he gotta cover. I mean, 50 does have a lot that he can talk about, but I think that he'll probably touch on a lot of the things that we've never heard about.

[Rory]

Yeah. Do you think he'll get into any of his personal life as far as relationship with both of his children's mothers and relationship with his first son. Because if you're doing a doc doc at this point in your life that's kind of important.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Or it's just going to be a VH1 behind the Music and tell us how you made in the club.

[Mall]

I don't know, but something about 50. I don't, I've never looked at 50. Like he's somebody that runs away from his, his story, his life. So I don't know. I think that we've gotten a lot of other docs or, you know, interviews with 50. I don't know, this, this three part, I'm thinking, I'm guessing it'll be something in there that we've never heard him speak about before. What exactly that is, I don't know. But I'm thinking we'll have, we'll get something from him that's like, okay, that's the first time he ever spoke about that publicly.

[Rory]

Yeah. Nairobi. Do you think he'll address that? He's broke?

[Mall]

Well, I don't think 50 Cent is broke. Let me just say that.

[Rory]

Nah, Rick Ross said he went to court and they, they went through his books and he's broke.

[Mall]

They went through 50s books in court like that. You think I'm believing that? Okay. And if it is broke, guess what, Guess what I'm on the side of. He wants to be broke.

[Rory]

That's the point of going into court when you're being sued.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Especially there's a chance you're gonna lose.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I mean, I'm gonna file bankruptcy on this specific company. Yeah, of, of course I'm broke.

[Mall]

Yeah, of course. What do you mean? Like, I barely made it to court today.

[Rory]

You think someone that owes child's board goes and be, oh, Yana, I'm killing it.

[Mall]

Right? I got it. Yeah, I got it. I take all of this.

[Baby D]

I'm killing it right now.

[Mall]

This 20ms. I got sitting over here, you could take it n. It don't go like that. Yeah, I'm definitely broke if I go to court.

[Rory]

But I know Rick Ross is, he's funny. So I, I know Ross is smart enough to know that 50 is not broke, but he's also smart enough to know what clickbait is like. And there's going to be a large group of people that. But hear Rick Ross say 50's broke and believe it.

[Mall]

Yeah. I think Ross is obviously somebody that's, you know, he plays into it. He knows what's gonna be funny and people gonna laugh at. But Ross is a businessman as well, and he knows how that game goes. Yes. If I have to go to court and open the books and shows, I wanna show that I don't have nothing so that y' all can't take nothing. So. Yeah, I don't think 50 is, you know, to the average person. Oh, Ross said 50 is broke. 50. He ain't got no money. Me. That's not how this goes.

[Baby D]

If somebody tried to sue y' all right now, like, would y' all be. Huh?

[Mall]

Gluck.

[Baby D]

Oh, y' all broke.

[Mall]

Paper popped. I barely made it here today. I slept in this.

[Rory]

Actually, No, I literally wore the shirt. I think, like, three episodes ago, I slept in this.

[Mall]

I just woke up. I was like, oh, I gotta go to the studio today. Yeah. Now I ain't got it.

[Baby D]

How. How do you hide money from the irs?

[Rory]

I. I would never. I do.

[Mall]

I don't know. You just don't. You don't hide money from irs.

[Rory]

You don't. You're a patriot.

[Mall]

Yeah, you gotta open the book. Show them everything. You don't hide money from the IRS.

[Baby D]

Yo, you're going to jail, bro.

[Rory]

Ryan, today is April 15th, and Ryan just googled how to hide money from the IRS on April 15th.

[Baby D]

Yeah, I'm. We're about to come knock on.

[Rory]

I'm about to knock right on that elevator door.

[Mall]

I'm forefront.

[Baby D]

That's literally like Googling how to get away with murder.

[Rory]

Like, yo, did not. I forgot the football player did that.

[Baby D]

Yeah, he was like, my girlfriend's not moving.

[Mall]

Like, my girlfriend's not moving. That means you're going to jail, sir.

[Baby D]

No, he said, my friend. My friend called me and hypothetically, like, his girlfriend's not moving.

[Mall]

Yeah, I know that one. I know. I seen that first 48. You going to jail. It was you. No doubt about it.

[Rory]

100%. Well, yes. Ryan. Don't Google those things. Everyone is watching, especially the irs. And happy tax day. We're all do our patriotic duty, shout out to the irs. We love everything that you guys do. Oh, mall. I finally started Landman. Thank you for the recommendation.

[Mall]

You're welcome.

[Rory]

I'm. I'm on, like, episode, I think four going into five. I want to say, what is it on? It's on Amazon prime, but it should have been a Netflix show, in my opinion. We got Netflix. Got to get that. Get that off Amazon.

[Mall]

Your Netflix in the bag. Get lame, man. Do what you got to do to

[Rory]

get that show and not to spoil anything. It's been out for a bit, but I thought with the intro it was going to be more drug cartel and don't spoil if it ends up getting there. But I was shocked that it is more just about the pit and oil rigs. I thought this was like going to be some Breaking Bad type of.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

But no, it's. It's an incredible show. It's. It's really, really good.

[Mall]

It was definitely one of my favorite watches with paradise as well. Those are two of the shows that I watched. And Tulsa King was Sylvester Stallone. Definitely one of the other shows that I love. Great tv.

[Rory]

I will say though, Landman made me a little uncomfortable once the daughter got into. Into play. 17 year old daughter brings her boyfriend off the plane. He's like the number one draft pick from Alabama. And because she can't have conversations with her mother about their current dating life, she goes to her father.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Which I would always love to be that support. If there's something you feel like you for. Mara can't talk to her mom about something because she feels uncomfortable, I would always love for you to come to me and vice versa. Can't talk to me about something, go to your mother about it. It's just this topic. Talking about your boyfriend. I wish that would be more of a mom subject, but I get it. And if you have a 17 year old daughter, it's safe to assume that she's having sex and you should talk to her about those things. But the way she be giving it up of like they be says we're practicing safe sex. And he said I'm gonna regret asking this. What does that mean exactly? Said, well, he. I told him if he can't come in me, he can come anywhere that he wants.

[Mall]

Mm. It's great tv. You gotta watch it.

[Rory]

Mind you, this is at a high school football game on the sidelines.

[Mall]

And he's the man.

[Rory]

No, he's. His name's Dakota Loving.

[Mall]

Yeah. You know, he's gonna make. He gonna be somebody. A name like Dakota, you going places for sure.

[Rory]

And I think that's healthy to have that communication with your daughter. I just. I don't know, man.

[Baby D]

It could be worded differently.

[Mall]

Well, how do, how do, how do you, how do you. How would you word it to your dad? Like you have con. Have you ever had conversation with your dad when you first started having sex?

[Baby D]

When I first started having sex?

[Mall]

No. No.

[Baby D]

My parents thought. I told you. My parents thought I was a lesbian for a very long time.

[Mall]

Okay. You still have sex as A lesbian?

[Rory]

No.

[Baby D]

I mean, but not even like it wasn't. I just didn't talk to them about those things and they never saw me with anyone. Like I was very private and sneaky.

[Mall]

So the first time you had the conversation with your dad that I started

[Baby D]

talking to my dad about sex, that was in my late 20s or something. And we still, it was never ah.

[Mall]

What was it like?

[Baby D]

He was, his main thing was he saw me leaving. I remember, I remember an exact conversation. I was, we were living in Brooklyn. I was living with my dad in Brooklyn at the time and I was leaving. It had to be like one o' clock in the morning and I was

[Mall]

leaving the house out that late.

[Baby D]

But the devil, he was like, he.

[Rory]

I mean, it's New York City though.

[Baby D]

Like, you go party, you can leave the house to go party at 1am but I was leaving the house at 1am and he was like, where are you going? And I was like, do you really want to ask me that question? Like, dad, do you really want to ask me what I'm about to go

[Mall]

do at 1am yeah, I'm your dad. I want to know.

[Baby D]

No, you don't.

[Mall]

I'm assuming that's what he said.

[Baby D]

No, he was just like, well, who are you going to be with? And I gave him the name and he was just like. It was just, he just, he trusted me, you know. But it was hard. I'm sure it was hard for him having me as a daughter, but I'm sure we never, we never.

[Mall]

I'm sure your dad wake up every day and it's hard having you as a daughter.

[Baby D]

What's me that was mad me.

[Mall]

That's what you just said. No, it's hard having me as a daughter.

[Baby D]

But when I was young, yeah, it was hard. Like I partied a lot. I ran around late nights with friends and I was in strip clubs and I was like, I'm sure having me as a kid was, was hard when I was younger.

[Mall]

I think it's hard for any dad to have a daughter that is now going out, hanging out with guys and clubbing and partying. I'm sure that's a tough time for all dads. All dads that, you know, obviously are in their child's lives and loves their, their child like that. Gotta be a hard time.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Your dad, you out like you just. Cause you know, we know what we was doing when we was going out and it's like, damn, my daughter at that age. And then you see her leaving the house, she got a Certain outfit on you, like, nah, I know she about to go stand on the couch at the club with that on. Like, oh, nah. You just know as a man, you was a young man at one point, too, so, you know, guys gonna walk in the club, see your daughter standing there, she look nice.

[Baby D]

It's like they look at her like she pray.

[Mall]

Yeah. It's like.

[Baby D]

But luckily, when I was growing up, I had the thing about me always being with men. Like, over time, when he realized that I was with men who would protect me, he loosened up a little bit. Because I'm not going out with a bunch of women, and, like, we're falling victim to shit. Like, oh, I'm going out with a dude or my guy friends. So I'm not trying to stand in anybody's section. I'm no one's victim. No one's feeding me alcohol. Some random in the club. Like, I didn't deal with stuff like that, so that made it a little bit easier for him, but that took a while.

[Mall]

That's your dad following on social media.

[Baby D]

Yes, he does. I keep blocking him. He keeps making new pages.

[Mall]

You think your dad is subscribed to your.

[Baby D]

No, my. My private.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Baby D]

No, no.

[Mall]

How you know, though?

[Baby D]

Because I can see who subscribed, and I blocked, like, any fake pages or anybody I know. Like, Rory followed my subscription. I blocked him.

[Rory]

Well, that's. That's because I thought it was supportive.

[Mall]

I didn't know she gave you your money back.

[Rory]

That's a good question. Like, I have to go through my.

[Mall]

How does that work? Like, you. You. I subscribe, I pay.

[Baby D]

You don't get charged.

[Mall]

You block me.

[Baby D]

You don't get charged for the next month, or they, like, block.

[Mall]

This month, though. I paid for this month. I wanted 30 days. I better see everything on this Instagram for 30 days.

[Rory]

And now that I think about it, I didn't think I got blocked. I thought like. Like, my credit card. I. You know, sometimes you lose a credit card, get a new one. That's what I thought. Yeah, but there wasn't nothing crazy on there.

[Baby D]

No, but, like, eventually, like, in there is, like, oh, now.

[Rory]

Now it's there.

[Baby D]

No, it's not even you.

[Rory]

I got the starter pack.

[Baby D]

You can't post super crazy in Instagram anyway. It's like, I'll be on there, like, talking about y'. All.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mall]

I don't want to pay for that.

[Rory]

Yeah, exactly. All right, well, someone that pays for it screenshot it and DM it to me.

[Mall]

Yeah. Screen, record it, send it to Us. Let us hear what.

[Rory]

Baby, you know, Reddit be leaking only fan. Yeah. Do the same thing to America.

[Mall]

Yeah. Come on now. We need that shit.

[Rory]

But, yes, that's just gonna have to be something I have to deal with.

[Mall]

Oh, yeah, you.

[Rory]

Because I'd rather. Unfortunately, I mean, I don't want to hear we're having safe sex, which means raw, pulling out, coming anywhere you want. I don't want to hear, like, those details, but I think it's probably better to have that type of relationship than the scared dad. Because your daughter is probably fucking at 17. Yeah, that's.

[Mall]

That's a safe assumption.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Yeah. He had a nice. He handled it well. He had a nice way of telling her that this number one draft pick is not like, he's gonna leave you. He had a very nice way of. We were saying, this is not going to be your last relationship. And then she was explaining, well, how do I know how to, like, how do I figure out heartbreak? And he was like, that's something you're gonna have to figure out by yourself. I'm just letting you know this is not going to work out.

[Mall]

Yeah, it's going to happen.

[Rory]

And within five minutes. She found that out pretty quickly. Yo, he was cold. She. She had explained to her dad that they had sex everywhere. Everything. Cars, anywhere you can think of. They've been fucking, but they'd never slept together. And he was like, wait, so you were just lying? He was like, no, no, we never actually, like, fell asleep together and, like, woke up in his arms because she was trying to go out to the couch to sleep with him. She's like, if I promise I don't fuck him, can I just lay with him? Because I've never woken up with him.

[Baby D]

Him.

[Rory]

And he's like, all right, just please don't have sex. She. Get out there. And he's like, all right, we can't, but I want to lay with you. And he was like, no, that's not how this works.

[Baby D]

Oh, my God.

[Rory]

His girlfriend that he just traveled with.

[Mall]

A man ever told you that, baby?

[Baby D]

D. The on my face.

[Mall]

I'm just. I don't know. I'm just asking. I'm just. I don't know, man. Might have got that off on you one night. Was like, so what you about to do? Do?

[Rory]

He didn't even lie.

[Baby D]

Like, every teenage girl has been through, like, the. So what you about to do when you're not. Oh, yeah, for sure. That.

[Mall]

Yes, well, that's what I'm.

[Baby D]

But not my boyfriend. Like, but a Guy that was trying to be. And I was just like, no, I don't want. And like, yo, definitely.

[Mall]

And that was definitely the voice. You said that. I know.

[Baby D]

I don't want this.

[Mall]

No, don't put that in me.

[Rory]

What is. Why. What's with you?

[Mall]

That's how it goes. Right or wrong, baby? They like, no, you're not putting that in me. Like, that's how it goes. We've all heard that before, right?

[Rory]

Why he was even colder was. He couldn't even get the excuse off. We're on a couch. Like, where are you gonna. Where are you gonna lay? Like, he had an easy out on that. He was just like, nah, we not. No, go sleep with your dad.

[Mall]

Yeah. I ain't gonna lie. I'm the number one player in the. In. In the state. You ain't giving. You know, go. Yeah, go home. It's a whole plethora they lined up like, these universities waiting. Yeah, get out of here.

[Baby D]

That's terrible. You should teach. We should teach our young men that women are worth more than what's in between their legs.

[Rory]

Guys.

[Mall]

No, they are. For sure. But I'm just saying, when you're young and lit like that, like, I can understand how a kid is like, I'm not. We not just cuddling. I'm horny. I just had 300 passing yards last night. Like, what you talking about? Like, I need some. I need some.

[Rory]

You need a stress reliever.

[Mall]

Yeah, man.

[Rory]

What the fuck? I can already developed CTE in my head right now. Like, I don't have much time.

[Mall]

I'm just being real. I understand. Yes. Women are worth more than that. We know that. But I'm just saying, as a young, like, you just know, like, well, he want to have sex.

[Baby D]

Of course.

[Mall]

Come on, man.

[Rory]

No, we need. How come Steve Harvey hasn't written that book? He had that snitching ass book.

[Mall]

Those that think like a man.

[Rory]

Yeah, Bum ass book.

[Mall]

You read that book? Cause you a book reader, so.

[Baby D]

No, I don't read books like that. And that's not. No shades.

[Mall]

You read Jada Pinkett's. Did y' all hear this latest Jada Pinkett. Yo, Jada Bigot is crazy.

[Rory]

They don't even be on press runs anymore. They should be talking about their relationship.

[Baby D]

But I want y' all to know that a lot of those clips are old clips from, like, the same interview, and people are bringing them up like they're new. I don't know why there's this current smear campaign against Jada, but all These interviews be old as it's that we already talked about. And they're like, jada won't shut up. It's like these blogs are going and pulling up old interviews.

[Rory]

Okay, yeah. Either way.

[Mall]

So this is the old interview.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Okay, just.

[Baby D]

Yeah, if I'm pretty sure this is old, but. And also, they're misconstruing what she's also saying.

[Mall]

Come on. You know, that's what the Internet. How many times the Internet misconstrued. Some shit you said all the time. Exactly. So it's Jada's turn. That's all. Let's misconstrue how much Some of her shit, like what she said about Will.

[Rory]

What didn't she say? Let's start there.

[Mall]

Yeah. Like, yeah, fuck it.

[Baby D]

And on that clip that Rory is referring to is her saying, like. Like when they did the red table talk and she, like, made like her and Will were not together. But instead of saying that and saying, will, me and you weren't together. I didn't cheat on you. She just took accountability. Like, yeah, I did something I shouldn't have done, but. And later on, it's like, me and Will weren't. We were not together. Like, so he doesn't feel cheated on because he knows that we weren't together.

[Rory]

I don't remember her ever saying, did some I shouldn't have done. I remember her saying, I got an entanglement.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And then. And to that, you ain't supposed to be tangled. That's. That's. That's girl math. With accountability, for sure. Because that's not accountability.

[Mall]

I just think it's crazy that she has sex with a gay man.

[Rory]

Which one? Will, or we're not doing? Leave it.

[Mall]

We're not doing that.

[Baby D]

You disrespect.

[Rory]

I'm joking, man.

[Mall]

No, she. Her. Her having.

[Rory]

Can't joke anymore.

[Mall]

Her cheating on Hollywood royalty.

[Baby D]

Stop saying cheating.

[Mall]

Okay? They were not together having an entanglement on Hollywood royalty with her son's friend. With her son's friend.

[Baby D]

That's the only part that I found.

[Mall]

Who happens to be a gay man. That's the only part you found? He's August. Alsina's gay.

[Baby D]

Okay, but we didn't know he was gay when that happened. She might not have known.

[Mall]

She knew that boy was gay, man. Come on. You know she looks like she has

[Rory]

a really good gaydar.

[Mall]

Yeah. Jada knows. And she's a grown woman. You think young ass August Alsina could get that past grown ass Jada Pinkett?

[Baby D]

Well, maybe he didn't know he was gay.

[Mall]

If anybody knew they was gay, it was August. He was lying to everybody else.

[Rory]

That's a crazier story. If you Jada Pinkett, and then realize you're gay, that's even crazy.

[Mall]

Yo, when you found out he was

[Baby D]

gay and was like, this still ain't enough.

[Rory]

Yeah, actually, no, that does make sense.

[Mall]

Like, yeah, having sex,

[Rory]

I still didn't like it.

[Mall]

Beautiful ass. And you realize, like, nah. Like, I don't even like women. What? You done made it to Jada Pinkett and now you realize you don't like women.

[Rory]

That is crazy lonely at the top.

[Mall]

Yeah. He always knew he was gay. He was trying to fight and, you know, hide that, but, you know.

[Baby D]

You know, when you're gay, yo, to you, gay, whatever.

[Mall]

Like, yeah, I like this.

[Baby D]

Can y' all help me clip it? Can y' all help me, like, fight, like, gayness? Like. Like, how do y' all live every day?

[Mall]

Like, yeah, because we talked about the lust demon at the top. We didn't talk about the gay demon.

[Baby D]

No.

[Rory]

Accept and love who they are and support themselves with a tribe of people that do the same.

[Mall]

You trying to fight the gay demon?

[Baby D]

Yeah, Like, CJ said that to me. He's like, you know how you always be, like, ain't fighting. Be saying they fighting demons whole time is bisexuality. He was like, that's you.

[Rory]

You got to go to a mega church, get delivered. You're not gay no more.

[Mall]

You're not gay no more.

[Rory]

You gotta go to mega church.

[Mall]

I don't like men's no more.

[Rory]

Yeah. If you. If you pay the church enough ties, gain this goal.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Really?

[Mall]

They gotta dump. They gotta dunk you in the. In the tub. Wash away your sins.

[Rory]

Marble tub. Yeah, I got baptized. I just flickered a little water on me.

[Mall]

Nah, they gotta put.

[Baby D]

They should have drowned you.

[Mall]

Yeah, that's what they're doing there. You want to get rid of that gay demon. You don't want to be gay no more.

[Rory]

I feel like the gay dude is crazy.

[Baby D]

I feel like the. The gayness and the lust are one because I don't have that lust for men. It's only for women. So I feel like if I fight, if I can control the gayness, I can control the lust.

[Voicemail Caller]

Lust.

[Mall]

So you only have lust for women, not men?

[Baby D]

Yeah, lust like that. Like, were you outside just doing stupid shit, spending money? Yeah.

[Rory]

Well, welcome to our world.

[Mall]

So I think. Oh, wait. So it might just be a control thing with you? You might just like being that dominant person with a woman. That's what it might be. You might just like that role. Like, but you don't really like women like that because obviously you're trying to fight. You're trying to fight against.

[Baby D]

Do you know how much money, like, how much I value my money? Like, you know how much I value my money thinking I'm spending my money.

[Mall]

I know how much you value pretty girls, too.

[Baby D]

Exactly, Exactly. Because I really do like women. Like, it's not just you don't really like women.

[Mall]

I don't know if you like women or you just like to control women.

[Baby D]

That's not. I don't control women. I'm not like that. No warrior now today's show is brought

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[Rory]

Do we have voicemails please?

[Mall]

You've got mail.

[John]

Hey this is John. I'm from Charlotte, North Carolina. I huge fan of the podcast that. But I'm calling because. Or I'm guessing I'm leaving a voicemail because I just listened to the. The Patreon comment or Patreon. Whatever the thing was, the Patreon episode. And I have a question for Baby D. Like, does, like, do you. Is there any scenario where a woman can be wrong? Like, she could just be full wrong?

[Rory]

I love the building.

[John]

And I know that sounds really sarcastic, right? But it really isn't. Like, I heard the Jada Pinkett segment with just small and zip. And you just, you said something like, it's become cool. Or men. Men have made it cool to hate Jada Pinkett Smith. And I just know, like, if a man were to say and do some of the things like Jada Pinkett Smith were to do or has said, like, that would not be the conclusion we come to. But genuinely curious. I. I love black women.

[Mall]

I love my mom.

[John]

What's the other one? Genuinely curious. Huge fan of the pod. Just wanted to know.

[Rory]

He's a dick.

[Baby D]

Very cute. A very cute dick, but a dick.

[Rory]

This is how kids become red pill because they can't get these answers.

[Baby D]

Women are often wrong. Humans are often wrong. I. I hate that.

[Rory]

See what they do. He asked, can women be wrong? And she went to humans, women can be wrong.

[Baby D]

I've said women were wrong before on this podcast. I have. But I am also a woman, and I also understand things in a different light. And sometimes I'm just more educated on things because, like I said, I read the fucking. The two books. Like, people are over here. Like, oh, my God, Will can't make Jada happy. And Will wrote in his book, I didn't want to get married. I mean, Jada didn't want to get married. I wanted to get married. Like, all of these things, like, there's. They have come out of their mouth and said this. So they keep telling you what their relationship is. And other people were like, this could never be me. It's not you. Like, but people hate her. It's just such a vitriol. You can dislike somebody or, like, say, like, people's hate for Aisha Curry is the same way. Like, why do y' all who hate. They tore Aisha Curry up because she said she wanted to still be found attracted by. By men. She wants to still be found attractive, and they tore her up. Your husband, Steph Curry, and you want n looking at you, and you're a whore. Like, men's egos are fragile. So when famous women come out and act like just normal women. Jada is a little extreme. I will say that. But when they just say normal thing

[Rory]

that women did that to Aisha Curry like they said drastically different things. They only insecure weird men think the Aisha Curry thing is they want to kill her for that. I think across the board most of us feel like it's a little bit oversharing. Some things you should keep to yourself.

[Baby D]

It's not about.

[Rory]

And you shouldn't put your husband at a red table.

[Baby D]

You say those things you saying that oversharing is completely different people. If you ever go on a clip of Jada Pinkett Smith and you go in the comments whether no matter what the social media is not just Twitter. They are calling for her death and saying she is the worst woman alive, bro.

[Rory]

Oh no. I. I know that that like that's.

[Baby D]

I'm not making that up.

[Rory]

I'm just saying the things that she said you can say more people could make a case than they could why you should curry that Aisha Curry didn't say anything that crazy.

[Baby D]

But there are people just because you have common sense. There are people that think that she did. That's what I'm saying.

[Rory]

And I. I think Jada Pinkett it's not my relationship but that it's wild the things that she is said. Okay.

[Baby D]

I think the only wild thing is the entangle. I think entanglement was wild.

[Mall]

But her saying entanglement or actually having an entanglement person.

[Baby D]

I think who she had an entanglement

[Mall]

with a gay man.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Baby D]

I think she had an entanglement with was wild. But like her. Her and Will weren't together.

[Mall]

It just leaked out.

[Baby D]

That shouldn't have leaked out. Who she did it with was crazy. But some leaked out. That shouldn't have leaked out. It's just Will didn't leak out like and that's why Will was just sitting up there like all right your got out. You should have kept your tight like I did. I like we should stay out them people marriage man.

[Rory]

Your son's friend to me you got a porn addiction. Like that's weird. That's just odd. Like that only happens on the computer. You're not supposed to do that in real life. That's. That's a lot.

[Baby D]

It happens a lot in real life.

[Rory]

You ever but one of your friends moms.

[Mall]

No.

[Rory]

Yeah. I don't know anyone that's ever done that except for August and I met him once. So I know one person.

[Mall]

No I know people that have slept with somebody's mom. That's there.

[Rory]

Like, I've seen it in porn and in American Pie. That's like, the only time

[Baby D]

women can be wrong. I do not stand up for all women when women do wrong shit. Women do wrong shit. But sometimes what y' all may look at as wrong for a woman, it might not seem wrong and vice versa. That's all. But yes, sir, women can be wrong. I said it.

[Mall]

All right. I think we just made history. Ladies and gentlemen, remember the new Rory and Mall podcast. Remember a woman admitted that women can be wrong?

[Rory]

This is where negatives cancel each other out. Women also lie.

[Mall]

They do.

[Rory]

So I don't know if I believe that.

[Mall]

No, I believe her. I was looking at her.

[Baby D]

I've been wrong before.

[Mall]

Oh. Ladies and gentlemen, today we are back to back. This is like Aaron Judge going back to back. Going yard the other night. Two times that Baby D has admitted that.

[Rory]

We'll never have this again.

[Mall]

We'll never hear this again.

[Rory]

While we're here, can you name some more situations where a woman was wrong and a man was right?

[Mall]

No. Name some more situations where you were

[Baby D]

wrong, Baby D. Where I was wrong?

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Baby D]

We had the conversation where I said that in the middle of the. The Jeezy Gucci battle, I answered my ex's phone call and walked into the other room. I said that I was wrong for how I handled that, that that could have been handled better. I've said that, but I said that I'm.

[Rory]

There's only one way to handle. That's just not.

[Mall]

Wow.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

That's so noble of you, Baby D. I mean, but. And when you told us that, did you say that you. I think you were trying to say you weren't wrong for that, right?

[Rory]

I was.

[Mall]

That was your stance that you wasn't

[Baby D]

wrong at the time. What I was saying was that my intentions weren't bad, but at the end of it, when I thought about it, in hindsight, yes, I could have handled that better, but my intentions weren't bad. I don't feel like I should be punished because I had. I didn't have bad intentions, but I can see what was your intention?

[Rory]

I would have respected if Jada would have said something like that.

[Mall]

But what were your intentions, though? What were your intentions when you answered that phone?

[Baby D]

My intentions were literally just to talk about the battle. I wasn't on a podcast at the time, but people knew I liked hip hop, so when things like that would happen, people would call me to talk about it. With me. That was the only my.

[Mall]

But you were with your new boyfriend watching the battle.

[Baby D]

Yes.

[Mall]

And then your ex boyfriend called about the battle.

[Baby D]

Yes.

[Mall]

And you answered the phone while your current boyfriend was in the house with you.

[Baby D]

Yes, Because I didn't have anything to hide. Like, when you don't have anything to hide, it's like, oh, I'm just gonna answer the phone.

[Rory]

Like, we'll say, though, you have your phone on do not disturb all the time.

[Baby D]

It wasn't.

[Rory]

So that's bad. So that makes it a little different.

[Baby D]

I don't even think do not deserve do not disturb existed at that time

[Rory]

during the Jeezy and that shit. Look at this. See, this is what you get from

[Baby D]

women at that time. It was during the pandemic, though. Like, I wanted to talk to everybody. Like, I don't. Like I was in a relationship and locked in the house during the pandemic. Pandemic. Please call my phone. Like, anybody call me, please. Because there was no socialization. I didn't really keep the do not disturb thing on until I joined this podcast. Because I talk for a living now. So, no, I don't want to go home and talk.

[Rory]

September 2012.

[Baby D]

Whatever.

[Mall]

Has that affected your dating life?

[Baby D]

What?

[Rory]

She's talked about that before.

[Mall]

Podcasting has, right?

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Has it helped your dating life?

[Baby D]

Huh?

[Mall]

Has it helped your dating life?

[Baby D]

No, it hasn't. It's working harder.

[Mall]

Why? How? Why has. Why do you feel like it hasn't helped?

[Baby D]

Because I don't date the type of men who would want to date me because I'm on a podcast. That's not. Like, I don't. You. Does that make sense?

[Mall]

Like, I don't date the type of men that would want to.

[Baby D]

Who would see me be like, oh, like, she's on a podcast. Like, I want to date her. So the people who do want to date me because I'm on a podcast, I would never date those people.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Baby D]

And the type of people that I tend to be attracted to are lower profile, like, quieter people. A lot of people can't deal with a girl coming out here and. And dealing with, like, Ma asking me if I'm ovulating. Like, that's not really.

[Mall]

Well, I'm only asking you because, again, well, we talked about this. I think that we should give you time off when you're on your cycle.

[Baby D]

But that's. That's. And then me saying, like, damn, why you asking me that? You want nut and me. A lot of men are not strong enough to deal with something like that.

[Mall]

Well, I can't control that response that you shot back. I, you know, I just. I would know why I was asking if you were ovulating.

[Baby D]

You know, gotta answer it.

[Rory]

Like, lame, man.

[Baby D]

To make men laugh. Like, a lot of men don't wanna be with a woman who. Oh, what does your girl do? She makes laugh on Netflix.

[Mall]

Yeah, I like that. I wish I could find a girl that make laugh on Netflix.

[Rory]

Probably make some money.

[Baby D]

Yeah, man.

[Rory]

Has it affected your dating life?

[Mall]

Yeah. What? No, it hasn't.

[Rory]

Okay. Has it helped?

[Mall]

No, it hasn't.

[Rory]

So everything's the same?

[Mall]

It's the same. Hasn't hurt. Hasn't hurt.

[Baby D]

Help.

[Rory]

I don't know.

[Baby D]

You don't be dealing with, like, people asking you questions about you, say, on here.

[Mall]

Yeah, but you know me. I don't really deal with it like a woman. Like, I'm not dealing with a woman will ask me and I'll just look at her like, are you. You serious? Like, come on, don't ask me. No. Yeah.

[Rory]

I'm not going to confront our issues. Like, why would I do that?

[Mall]

You said that you don't like when women do this. Now you sitting there looking like, so what you going to order, man? What we eating? Because I'm not talking about the show.

[Baby D]

The show?

[Mall]

The show at dinner. Are you crazy? I'm not doing that.

[Baby D]

No, Rory, you.

[Rory]

Oh, I thought mine went without saying. Yes. Destroyed any positive interaction I've ever had in my entire life.

[Mall]

Yes.

[Rory]

Anything. Anything that was meant for me is

[Mall]

no longer going out of there.

[Baby D]

If it was meant for you, it would have never.

[Mall]

Yeah, no, I seen that on somebody's living room wall too.

[Rory]

That made sense before WI Fi.

[Mall]

Yeah. What's meant for you will always find you. Shut up.

[Rory]

Yeah, for real.

[Baby D]

I really believe that what's meant for

[Mall]

you will always find you.

[Baby D]

Yeah. And what's not meant for you will run away from you no matter how hard you chase it.

[Mall]

Yeah, but y. Women say that and then the. That's stalking you. You call the cops cuz you're not attracted to him.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

What's meant for you will always find you. Right? I thought that's what it was. He's going to always find you. Not meant for me will find that door. Huh?

[Baby D]

If some shit that's not meant for me will also find me. Like, it's not just good, that's going to find me me.

[Mall]

Yeah, but one minute.

[Rory]

I don't know what's good with you today.

[Baby D]

Yo, he.

[Rory]

You would like to stalk her in

[Mall]

if A woman was stalking me, would I let her in?

[Baby D]

Yeah, more she bad.

[Rory]

That could be your twin flame.

[Mall]

What she look like?

[Rory]

She look good.

[Mall]

Yeah, she might could come in. We could talk about this. Why you doing this? Why. Why you stalking? You ain't got to do this. You can just call me and I'll open the door. You ain't got to hide in them bushes. You ain't got to live like that.

[Baby D]

You ain't got to scale my buildings to the 13.

[Mall]

You ain't got to sneak in with maintenance man.

[Rory]

Like, knowing the psychology of. Of a stalker, it doesn't change if she's ugly or pretty. Like, that doesn't matter for me.

[Mall]

No, it's like, is she ugly now? Call the cops for sure. If she bad, you just bust up man upstairs.

[Rory]

So you think once. Once you the stalker, that's just. It'll make her. It'll make her pull back a little bit, right?

[Mall]

You got to give her what she wants. Just give her. Just give her.

[Rory]

She'll never want to come back with the stalker brain that she let her know.

[Mall]

Like, listen, I'm gonna put you on a bye week weekly. Me and you can hang out bi weekly. But don't come over here if it's not your week.

[Rory]

Mall doesn't have time for sane women, let alone a stalker.

[Mall]

No, but stalkers are just misunderstood.

[Rory]

Yeah, no, I works in court.

[Mall]

Yeah, you gotta. You gotta help the stalkers. Like, why are you doing this? Why are you stalking me? What's the problem? People don't talk to stalkers. That's the problem.

[Rory]

Yeah, and they shouldn't keep running.

[Mall]

Yeah, talk to them. Sometimes, depending on how much of a stalker they are, if they absolutely crazy, call the cops. But if it's just somebody that's just like, yo, look like, I just.

[Rory]

Wait, is there a stalker that's not crazy?

[Mall]

Well, there's levels. People say somebody's a stalker and they not. It's like they're not really stalking you. They just want to talk to you. Take the ass away from it. They're talkers.

[Baby D]

Oh, my God.

[Mall]

You just talkers, that's all. Just want to talk. Remove the S. They're podcasters. They don't have no cameras. They just can't afford any.

[Rory]

Life is a podcast.

[Mall]

Yeah, but they just wanted. Just talkers. We're stalkers without the S's, right?

[Rory]

I mean, I wouldn't say that, but

[Mall]

hey, we talk, right? We're talkers.

[Baby D]

Yes, we're talkers.

[Rory]

We're not stalkers.

[Mall]

The S means we're not following people false in conversation on them. Right? We're not doing that.

[Rory]

But what are we stalking?

[Mall]

Huh?

[Rory]

The RSS feed. Like, what are we stalking?

[Baby D]

That money.

[Mall]

We consistently find RSS feed and we talk to the RSS feed. That's what we do. We force conversation.

[Rory]

Why hasn't a corny rapper done some I'm a Benjamin stalker line yet?

[Mall]

Oh, it's probably out there.

[Rory]

So it has to be out there, right?

[Mall]

Yo, you know, listening to Central Seas.

[Rory]

Oh, I didn't get a chance to listen to it.

[Mall]

Put out seven joints on the ep. That is all right.

[Rory]

That's a perfect amount of Central C for me. I didn't mind the album before. It was just a lot of. A lot of C on there.

[Mall]

Yeah,

[Baby D]

Yeah, I can't do that.

[Mall]

Nah, you gotta listen to Central C. You'll like it because it's that energy, it's that bounce. And then he's saying, you know, on

[Rory]

there, his last album, he was saying,

[Baby D]

yeah, no, I'm sure. Like, he can rap really well. I can't do the accent. I've told y' all that before. I can't do the British accent.

[Rory]

Can him and Dave do another ep? Like, that's what I'm waiting for.

[Mall]

That joint was hard.

[Rory]

That's EP is crazy.

[Mall]

Yeah, but that all Rose Lee home. That. That ep, that Central C joint. That is. I was listening to it last night.

[Rory]

All Rose lead to the flat.

[Baby D]

Thanks for putting us on fire. We gotta go back to putting each other on this. That was a good segment.

[Rory]

Add that to the next. Next episode.

[Mall]

Put you on.

[Rory]

Do we have one more voicemail or we.

[Baby D]

Yeah, we can do one more before I get out of here.

[Voicemail Caller]

Yo, fan of the party and everything, I had a question to ask y' all to see if this is a valid, like, reason to crash out. Yesterday was my birthday, and I went out with, you know, a woman asked me to, you know, take me out for my birthday. So we went to dinner, and I invited my homeboy and his girl to go to a bar with us. Afterwards, I picked them up, we went to the bar. We. On the way back, I. I was dropping them off at my homie's crib, and when we get in front of his crib, his girl is like, can I ask you a question? And I'm like, yeah. So she was like, why are y' all not, like, official? Like, why are y' all not, like, together? Like, why are you playing like that, friend? I know she's drunk. My homies a Little tipsy. The girl I'm with is a little tipsy. I'm a little tipsy. Like, we all.

[Baby D]

A little.

[Voicemail Caller]

So I'm like. I'm trying to answer the question, but at the same time, like, fam, you. You springing this on me, and you're drunk, and we're in my car and it's my birthday. Like, what the hell? Now I'm looking at my homie. Like, bro, if you don't put a muzzle on this mother. Like, is that. Like, it got so bad that when I took the girl home, like, she got out of my car crying, how I responded because, like, I was laughing, and the reason I was laughing is. Cause I just wasn't. Wasn't. That was a. It was a hard question for you to ask me after a good night of drinking and, like, it just flustered me. So should. Is that a valid reason to crash out and be mad at my homie?

[Mall]

1,000%.

[Rory]

Well, did he say. Did he say. Did he say the muzzle line? I thought he was thinking the muzzle line.

[Baby D]

Oh, I don't know.

[Rory]

Because he made the girl cry. He must have said something crazy.

[Baby D]

No, he said he laughed. He laughed.

[Rory]

They said his response was harsh. That's why she was crying.

[Mall]

So I don't think he said the muzzle line, though. But his response might have been something that she didn't like, and she was drunk, so emotions and things like that. Homie was tripping, though. You're not supposed to ask that. Like, that's just the wrong time. And why are you asking me about what I'm doing with my relationship? Like, what's up with you? Like, you like my girl or something? You like us?

[Baby D]

No, the homie's girl asked that.

[Mall]

Oh, the homie's girl? I thought he said his homie asked his girl.

[Baby D]

Ass.

[Mall]

Oh, yeah. She. You supposed to let her out. Him and his girl could have got out. Yeah, that's easy. Simple fix.

[Baby D]

Both in the moment. That's such an awkward question. Here's my thing. This is my thing.

[Mall]

And that only came from. Because the two girls had a conversation. Oh. Without question, like, yo, y' all official

[Rory]

yet, like, they went to the bathroom together and had that conversation, like, so.

[Baby D]

And. But men don't know that. Things like that. They don't be knowing. Here's my thing. You can't like that girl that much. Because that wouldn't have been an awkward question for you to answer if you really, really like that girl. You don't like that girl that much.

[Rory]

No, you gotta go at your own pace.

[Mall]

Yeah. Or, I mean, she's out. They out for his birthday. Obviously he like her. He's spending his birthday with her, so obviously he likes her.

[Baby D]

Might not have been nobody else available, but. I hear you.

[Mall]

I mean, your birthday. You ain't gotta go out with no. You don't gotta go out with no girl on your birthday. It could just be.

[Baby D]

But you wanna get pussy on your birthday.

[Mall]

True. You can also pay for pussy on your birthday. Go to strip club. I mean, you can get pussy on your birthday. I'm just saying he's spending it with this girl. His homie and homie's girl. It's a double date thing. He likes this girl for sure. But, like, you know, shorty, just like I said, they had that conversation, went to the bathroom and. Yo, are y' all official yet? What he waiting on? Why you letting that man play in your face? You know how that shit go.

[Baby D]

I'm gonna ask him. Don't worry, I got you. I'm gonna ask. Asking.

[Mall]

Yeah, she just picked the wrong time.

[Baby D]

She picked. She picked the wrong. It's none of her business. It's none of her business. That's something like. Yeah, it's none of her business. It's none of her business. She shouldn't have did that. Women can be wrong,

[Rory]

You guys. Name of the episode.

[Mall]

The name of the episode. Women can be Wrong. Yes. I love it.

[Baby D]

Women can be wrong.

[Rory]

But you have to. You also have to shrug that one off too. You have to be like, need. You need to wish me happy birthday. You ask me questions. Or who's to say we're not? You just have to deflect on that one. Change the subject.

[Baby D]

You got to be. You got to be.

[Rory]

Who said we're not? And then just turn the music up.

[Baby D]

No, but you can't say who said we not? Because a woman will hear that and be like, oh, we're in a relationship.

[Rory]

That's something we have to discuss when we get home.

[Mall]

Yeah, we gotta. That's between us. Like. Like you said, it's just none of our business.

[Rory]

But I don't think it's a crash out situation. I don't think you should crash out because, yes, that. That's a horrible thing to ask on is your birthday. Because it could ruin your birthday. But you crashing on that girl is definitely going to ruin your birthday. Because even if when they leave, your girl's probably going to ask, okay, well, you got really emotional when she asked that question. Why?

[Mall]

You're right. It's not a Crash out. But it's definitely a get out.

[Baby D]

It's a get the fuck out.

[Mall]

Get out. Yeah, yeah, get out.

[Rory]

No after party. Get out.

[Mall]

Just get out.

[Baby D]

But even that is an over. Like, if I'm in a car with a man and we're doing like, the, you know, like, we're dating thing or whatever, and she asked like, why, like, why y' all not official? Like, what's going on? And the girl was also looking at you like, yeah, like, what you gonna say? You have to. You are. Then you can't kick out the car. You can't do that. Because it's like, yo, what the. You so mad about somebody asking if. If you're official, like. Cause then now it's like, oh, you don't really fuck with me like that. You have no plans on making me official. Because that's the perfect moment to be like, chill, chill. Like, I got. We, we, we. We got this. Like, we on that. Like, that's. You know what I'm saying? You know that that conversation is going to come. But you're so angry you want to crash out. You don't have no plans on wife in that girl, which means that you don't like her that much. Cuz if you want wife for your

[Rory]

own, you got to have a ring to be my wife. Hit him with that. It worked for meth.

[Mall]

You ain't got to have a ring to be my wife. Just make sure that we be together. What? Nah, get out. Don't ask me why. This ain't my girl yet.

[Rory]

I'm just saying the crash out is going to make it worse, cuz one, it'll ruin your birthday the same way that question did. And once they out now, now,

[Mall]

yeah. Why you kicked him out? That was too far. Like.

[Rory]

Like, your reaction was crazy. Why was your reaction that way?

[Baby D]

But I mean, I think the shorty ain't with him no more. And that's why he ready to crash out now.

[Mall]

Because I think she with him. She just probably. She probably. They probably having that conversation alone, though, like.

[Rory]

But see that, that's where your. Your friend needs to step in before anyone even has. Has an answer, like a second answer. You got to look back at your girl and say, hey, get out of their business. You have to take that bullet immediately. Like, the friend got to be on his toes. He has to dead that conversation, baby. How long.

[Mall]

How long you dating somebody before it's official?

[Baby D]

Don't ask me that.

[Rory]

You know me, Ms. Spin the Block.

[Baby D]

No, I'm just saying relationships after the first date. I don't know. My last two relationships, I was in a relationship after the first date. So you are asking.

[Mall]

Asking the wrong person after the first date.

[Baby D]

The first date, I'm like, my last relationship, I was in a really. I was. We got together after the first date. The one before that, it was the second or third date and it was

[Mall]

like, this is my girl.

[Baby D]

Yes. Yeah.

[Mall]

First date.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Damn.

[Baby D]

Yeah.

[Mall]

I don't. Damn. Is it sex after the first date?

[Baby D]

Not always, no.

[Mall]

How was your girl at the first date? You ain't even hit that yet.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's a little crazy because my two longest relationships, we had sex right away.

[Mall]

No, no, no. Rory.

[Rory]

But the opposite. No, I'm saying the opposite of that is crazy. We're in a relationship and we haven't had sex. Like that's crazier to me.

[Mall]

You missed it. You missed it. She lying.

[Andrea Gunning]

That's it.

[Rory]

I told you women lie. Mo you be thinking I missed stuff. I just. I just ignored Damaris when she lied, cuz I know she's lying.

[Baby D]

Friend. He's a friend like you over here.

[Rory]

Why is she lying?

[Mall]

I'm a friend too. I'm just going to tell you. When you got something in your teeth, he's going to act like you don't got none of your teeth. I'm going to say it like you over here, like, calling out like, oh, man.

[Rory]

It would make her weirder if it was the other way.

[Baby D]

My last relationship, we did have sex on the 1st. I think the best relationship on the first day. We have sex on the.

[Mall]

I think the. Call me crazy. I think the best relationships, the relationships that last the longest is the ones where you hit on the first night.

[Rory]

Completely agree with him. My two longest ones.

[Mall]

Yeah. Oh, my God. Like she. She like me. Like me.

[Baby D]

Well, it's. But the two usually go hand in hand, so it doesn't last as long or they're not the best because you had sex on the first date, but you had sex on the first date because you realized you really, really, really like that person. And that's probably why the relationship lasted so long. It's cuz of the chemistry. Chemistry will keep you on some. You ain't got no business in, baby.

[Mall]

Chemistry ain't nothing but good sex. That's not good sex. To keep you somewhere you don't had no business being men. You know what I'm talking about, baby.

[Baby D]

Why you looking at me?

[Mall]

Cuz you're a woman. What that mean? I'm like, you know, you. Good sex will Keep you in relationships you got no business being in.

[Rory]

Yeah, meth is. Is chemistry, too.

[Mall]

Meth amphetamine. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. But what's stronger, meth or sex?

[Baby D]

Oh, meth.

[Rory]

Or is it. Is it. Is it blue meth?

[Mall]

I don't care. What is it?

[Baby D]

What they were selling and breaking and bad. Breaking bad.

[Mall]

I don't care what they were selling and breaking bad. That good sex.

[Baby D]

Good sex with somebody you love and who love you.

[Mall]

Ooh, good. No, it ain't. You ain't got to love the person. Good sex with somebody you ain't got no business being with that you know, don't love you. But the sex is crazy.

[Baby D]

It's better when you.

[Mall]

How you fight that. How you fight that demon.

[Baby D]

It's better when you love the person. Once you have that type of sex with somebody that you're in love with and you know they love you the same way, you'll never be able to go back to doing that with somebody that you hate or don't really like. It's a completely different. Well, you'll be chasing that in love sex, like crying during missionary sex. You'll be chasing that feeling.

[Mall]

A missionary. I don't ever want no box like that.

[Rory]

You just said you want to. A stalker. She's gonna be crying during missionary.

[Mall]

Yeah, but I'm talking about me crying.

[Rory]

Yeah, it's because she's gonna kill you.

[Mall]

Me crying in missionary.

[Rory]

Yo, more crying and missionary like that.

[Mall]

Keep that away from me. Any sex that's gonna have me on top of her, looking at her crying tears into her eyes, like my tears are going in her eyes.

[Rory]

You throw the sweat from your forehead.

[Mall]

Nah, I'm cool. I don't want none of that. That sex is dangerous. I'm cool. That sex right there. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. Keep that to yourself, ladies.

[Rory]

Yeah, I think I need to be medicated if that happened.

[Mall]

Yeah, sex that's gonna have you crying.

[Baby D]

Y' all never had sex that made y' all cry before?

[Mall]

Hell, no.

[Baby D]

Not even a tear out the corner?

[Mall]

No. No. Sex that made me cry.

[Baby D]

Like, I'm crying like a tear came a teardrop.

[Mall]

No, no.

[Rory]

That just means sweat from my forehead got my eye.

[Mall]

That's the only time crying. I ain't never had no sex that had me crying. Never. And I had some great sex in my life crying. No, it's never happened. I didn't even know men cried during sex. A man cry with you during sex?

[Baby D]

No.

[Mall]

Hey, which one of them you think cried? Which one of them you think Cried having sex with.

[Rory]

I have a. A1of1 answer. Like I said, it's 100, though. I know. I know exactly. I know exactly who Baby D had crying during. I will tell you off, Mike, because I know exactly who it is.

[Mall]

Yo. Crying during sex with baby. No, you know what? I'm. We gonna wrap up baby. But you know why I baby. Because she was supposed to tell me that as soon as it happened. Like had that in there crying. You're supposed to give me that ball.

[Baby D]

I'm not doing that. You're gonna say who I said it in happened. I said. I literally said no. When you just.

[Mall]

Cuz you lying. You lying. Why you don't give us that. That's the. You supposed to pop yo. A girl make you cry during sex? That is insanity. What?

[Rory]

Take that to the grave.

[Baby D]

Can you just.

[Mall]

I'm sorry, baby. I just never. I just never. I'm sorry.

[Rory]

But yes, you could never do that girl wrong, cuz she got a secret on you that like.

[Mall]

Imagine getting into all you cried and why you was having sex. You can't argue with that girl no more. You. You have no more cards in your hand to argue with that girl put

[Rory]

on outfit and just start sweeping the houses.

[Mall]

Yeah, it's like, that's worse than you her find you got a little dick.

[Rory]

I mean, at that point.

[Mall]

Nah, crying is worse than that.

[Baby D]

No, but if y' all both cry together like this per. Like if that person was to cry with somebody else.

[Rory]

That's not what Ja and Mary were talking about.

[Mall]

What is? I just want to know. Like. All right, so Baby D, can you. I just. Because I know Baby D. Cause she's. She's half nigga. So I just want to know, like, what you said to this nigga when you look. Looked up and saw him.

[Rory]

What?

[Baby D]

It didn't happen to me. But the person that told me about it, they cried together. Like they both were the person.

[Rory]

Yeah, it was always a friend of hers. Her friend was telling her about it.

[Mall]

All right, so what your friend said

[Rory]

once you had post nut clarity, you looked at him crazy.

[Baby D]

They were both crying together. It wasn't just him.

[Mall]

What was it like crying for?

[Baby D]

Because you had a connection with somebody. Like, you have a really, really deep connection. And like in that moment, like, y' all are in love and y' all are saying like all of these, like, beautiful things to each other. And you mean them like you're not just having like sex talking like you mean the things you're saying.

[Rory]

One kindred soul.

[Mall]

We cried Together. When I cry. You cry.

[Rory]

This is the ja song I was talking about.

[Mall]

I ain't never, ever heard of two having sex crying at the same time. What? No, wait, I was. No, not that. Not that. Not two. Not two men having sex. I'm just saying, like couples having sex. Crying, crying. That is some funny man. I'm sorry. That's funny. Y' all both just looking at each other crying. I mean, I love it for him, too, but that's some funny man.

[Baby D]

All right, well, man, well, let's get into Patreon.

[Mall]

Yeah, let's get into Patreon so Baby D could tell us more about tears of fears.

[Baby D]

How about you tell us something?

[Mall]

Yeah, I've never cried during sex. I told you that.

[Baby D]

Okay, that's what you never did. Tell me what you did do.

[Mall]

I made a woman cry during sex, though.

[Rory]

You did?

[Baby D]

Which was doing.

[Mall]

You know, I had that. I had that. You know what I'm saying? We put the Achilles on the headboard.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

You ain't even know your Achilles could hit the headboard, right? Abd

[Rory]

next time, malware shorts. Let's see if we can see the scars.

[Mall]

No, not mine. Not mine.

[Rory]

I thought you put your Achilles up and was hitting it like that.

[Mall]

No, ma. Achilles being on the headboard ain't never hit the headboard.

[Rory]

I thought she was really getting in there.

[Mall]

Hell, no.

[Rory]

No.

[Baby D]

One of my home girls said that she like, when put they foot on her head while they.

[Mall]

I've done that. That's. That's like.

[Baby D]

That's crazy. It was barefoot to no sock. That's crazy as you want a tim on your face.

[Mall]

She want to do Joe Fresh good on the back.

[Baby D]

See, that's why I can't get no man cuz podcast.

[Mall]

See? Y see, barefoot no sock, it's crazy. No sneakers is crazy. He's supposed to keep his secrets, though,

[Rory]

and he took the train here. Yo, it's a pissy ass.

[Mall]

Yo, man. We'll talk to y' all soon. Be safe, be blessed. I'm that. He just ginger. We going to Patreon.

[Baby D]

No worry now.

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[Baby D]

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