Episode 482 | So So Messy

Summary

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New Rory & Mal – Episode 482 | So So Messy

Release Date: April 17, 2026
Podcast Hosts: Rory, Mal, Damaris, Peach, Ryan
Duration: ~1h50m (Main content begins at ~02:50 after ads)

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Episode Overview

This episode of New Rory & Mal lives up to its title, "So So Messy," with the crew diving into new stories, plenty of laughter, and hot takes centered on music industry gossip, stream culture, relationship boundaries, podcast ethics, and the blurred lines between friendship and public perception. From Drake album rumors to messy public displays among celebrity couples and even the etiquette of taking photos with your favorite artists, the crew offers sharp insights—and plenty of jokes—about everything swirling in hip-hop and internet culture.

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Main Discussion Points

1. Weekend Plans & NYC Vibes

[02:50–05:00]

• Brief banter about NYC weather (“Last 80 degrees day in New York City… Enjoy your day today.” [02:50, Rory])
• The group discusses weekend activities, going to see "Moulin Rouge," and playful debates about inviting each other to plans.
• Discussion about attending Yankees games and new ferry routes to Yankee Stadium—turning the commute into a humorous exploration of "local suffering" and NYC realities.

2. Drugs, DARE, and "Gateway" Debates

[06:00–08:40]

• A long, comedic detour about the "DARE" anti-drug program, weed being a supposed gateway drug, and how public perceptions of weed have changed.
• Notable moment:

  “Because I smoked a lotta weed and I ain’t see a gate yet. Gateway drug...” – Mal [07:50]

• Joking about how narratives around weed’s health effects shift over time (“Said the same thing about Tropical Fantasy. It’s all a sham.” [09:02])

3. Rory’s Infamous Livestream Fall

[09:39–13:59]

• Rory narrates his embarrassing live fall on Simba’s Twitch stream, finding the humor in being called “Flory” by chat commenters.
• Memorable exchange:

  “What’s more embarrassing? She looked like she felt bad… I’d rather you clown me.” – Rory on comedian Brandi’s response [12:36]

• The group banters about the stream culture, streamer linkups, and how falling on stream “ruins your opinion’s credibility” for viewers.

4. Drake Album ("Iceman") Drop Rumors & Internet Reactions

[15:56–28:22]

• The bulk of the episode centers on the music world, especially anxieties and rumors about Drake’s upcoming album “Iceman.”
• Discussion of Anthony Fantano’s (music reviewer) role in spreading the rumor of an imminent Drake drop and how “source culture” online has changed the anticipation cycle.
• Mal delivers a strong, hype-building statement:

  “This is some of the best raps I’ve ever heard from Drake… It’s crystal clear who the top dog is after this.” – Mal [25:51]

• The conversation expands into critique of instant “reactions vs. opinions” in the content creator era, arguing reactions are mostly performative for clicks rather than genuine engagement.

  "Opinions are monetized. Now you can monetize your opinions. Reactions are driving traffic." – Mal [23:48]

• Mal provides a mini-Drake album retrospective, discussing “Take Care,” “Nothing Was The Same,” and “Views” as creative milestones, particularly:

  “After ‘From Time’… that was the moment Drake changed as an artist.” – Mal [29:38]

5. Hip-Hop Head-to-Heads & "Bar for Bar" Debates

[31:52–35:45]

• Rory talks about his appearance on Bars On I95’s “bar for bar” segment, debating various rapper matchups (e.g., Gibbs vs. Benny, Pusha T vs. Jadakiss).
• Waves of intense (and funny) argument about who truly has the better bars. Special roast for Wayno’s take:

  “Wayno said bar for bar Meek raps better than Drake… That’s insane.” – Rory [34:13]

6. The Ethics of Podcast Messiness: N.O.R.E., Jason Lee, and Man Code

[39:11–51:08]

• Dissecting N.O.R.E. asking Offset on Drink Champs about his rumored relationship with Saweetie—a moment cut from the show—and if cutting footage is actually "man code" or just an indirect way of confirming the messy rumor.
• Sharp critique and comedic roleplay about how "man code" gets (mis)used:

  "If your girl barges in here… looks at me and says, 'Rory, did he fuck that girl last night?' and I say, 'Man code, I ain’t sayin’ shit.' I just said you fucked that girl!" – Rory [43:44]

• The group debates whether it’s appropriate to even ask those questions in the first place, on- or off-mic.

  “I just think asking anybody who they fucked is weird.” – Mal [48:15]

• Damaris offers a female perspective on being discussed in those situations, seeing public exposure as a consequence of public life:

  “If you did it, the world needs to know you did it… you gotta deal with the consequences of your own actions." – Damaris [50:25]

• Discussion transitions to boundaries: ever accidentally giving up a friend’s secret.

7. Cardi B, Quavo, Offset, and Public (Messy) Loyalty

[53:07–65:31]

• Damaris asks if it’s “weird” or “disloyal” for Quavo to maintain a public friendship with Cardi after her divorce from Offset.
• The crew dissects the optics of Quavo attending Cardi’s show, being put on the big screen, and whether it’s “strategic” or just "messy."

  “It looks like the ops is linking up, y’all trauma bonding right now.” – Mal [58:02]

• Damaris argues for the value of maintaining “real love” and not letting others’ drama interfere with genuine bonds.
• The segment is full of playful hypotheticals about show invites, choosing sides post-breakup, and how relationships shift after public drama.

8. Content, Clicks, and Woman vs. Woman in Hip-Hop Media

[65:32–68:42]

• Cardi reportedly requests N.O.R.E. stop pitting her against Nicki Minaj for content. The crew reflects on whether being mentioned with Nicki is insulting or a mark of respect:

  “Cardi’s name is next to Nicki’s… What Nicki has accomplished in rap history is few and far between… I’d take it…” – Rory [67:26]

• Discussion about content creators exploiting female rap rivalries for engagement and the double standards and sexism in those narratives.

9. Remy Ma’s Freestyle, Diss Bars, and Ex Etiquette

[68:50–74:51]

• The crew listens to Remy Ma’s new freestyle with shots at Papoose and her rival Clarissa—debating whether “so-so dick” bars and claims about ghostwriting should really be hurled post-divorce.

  “Nobody's dick smaller than a nigga that a girl hates… Once she hates you… Your dick about as big as that wick on that candle.” – Mal [69:25]

• Mal and Rory note that personal shots post-breakup are "messy," especially when they'd worked together musically.

10. Relationship Lingos and Imitation

[74:54–77:04]

• Light-hearted back-and-forth about whether couples start imitating each other’s slang and habits.
• Conclusion: It’s usually women picking up on men’s language, rarely the reverse (“If I'm with the homies and I was talking like my girl… you're gay now.” – Mal [75:47])

11. NBA Playoff Bets

[81:13–85:47]

• The last primary topic is a playful strategy session over playoff picks and betting odds for the NBA, with each putting in their "heart" and "brains" picks.
• Picks include the Knicks, Spurs, Timberwolves, and Pistons, with lots of jokes about “dark horses” and long shots.
• Damaris humorously supports the Cavs “for Coco Jones.”

12. Speedy’s Coachella Story: Fame, Ego, and Photo Etiquette

[86:13–99:25]

• Story time: Speedy recounts how a woman asked for a photo at Coachella, her man responded "Who the fuck is Speedy?" and Speedy clapped back online (“If you don’t know who I am, your girl look good, so you better relax…”).
• The team ponders when it’s appropriate for your partner to ask for pics with celebrities or content creators, and how it affects the “ego.”

  “Your relationship is safe. I don’t want your girl. Don’t fret. Your relationship is intact.” – Mal [93:32]

• Heated (and funny) back-and-forth about gender roles and ego in public, with Damaris saying she wouldn’t ask for a pic beside her man, while the guys call out the insecurities or double standards involved.

13. Celebrity “Kills” (Sexual Bragging Rights?) and Listener Voicemails

[103:10–109:41]

• A listener asks the crew to describe their “celebrity kills” without naming names; the crew clowns the idea, riffs on their own sexual histories, and deconstructs the notion of “celebrity” in the internet era.
• They roast old-school “kill lists” and joke about memory lapses, safe-keeping secrets, and the strange blurring of public/private with “notable” partners.
• Damaris maintains it’s different for women in media:

  “Unfortunately, there are double standards, and I am a woman that works for y’all, so I do have to keep my legs together…” – Damaris [108:57]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Rory [12:36] – “What’s more embarrassing? She looked like she felt bad… I’d rather you clown me.”
• Mal [07:50] – “Because I smoked a lotta weed and I ain’t see a gate yet. Gateway drug...”
• Mal [25:51] – “This is some of the best raps I’ve ever heard from Drake… It’s crystal clear who the top dog is after this.”
• Damaris [50:25] – “If you did it, the world needs to know you did it… you gotta deal with the consequences of your own actions."
• Mal [58:02] – “It looks like the ops is linking up, y’all trauma bonding right now.”
• Rory [43:44] – “If your girl barges in here… looks at me and says, 'Rory, did he fuck that girl last night?' and I say, 'Man code, I ain’t sayin’ shit.' I just said you fucked that girl!”
• Mal [69:25] – “Nobody's dick smaller than a nigga that a girl hates… Once she hates you… Your dick about as big as that wick on that candle."
• Mal [75:47] – “If I'm with the homies and I was talking like my girl… you're gay now. You gay.”
• Rory [93:39] – “Your relationship is safe. I don’t want your girl. Don’t fret. Your relationship is intact.”
• Damaris [108:57] – “Unfortunately, there are double standards, and I am a woman that works for y’all, so I do have to keep my legs together when it comes to certain shit.”

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Start | End | |--------------------------------------------- |----------:|----------:| | Show Proper Starts & NYC Weekend Banter | 02:50 | 05:14 | | DARE, Drugs, & PSA Parodies | 06:00 | 09:39 | | Rory’s Stream Fall Story | 09:39 | 13:59 | | Drake/Iceman Album Speculation | 15:56 | 28:22 | | Bar for Bar / Hip-Hop Head-to-Heads | 31:52 | 35:45 | | Podcast Messiness: Offset, N.O.R.E., Jason Lee| 39:11 | 51:08 | | Cardi, Quavo, Offset & Loyalty After Divorce | 53:07 | 65:31 | | Woman vs. Woman in Hip-Hop Media | 65:32 | 68:42 | | Remy Ma, Diss Bars, & Divorce Dragging | 68:50 | 74:51 | | Relationship Lingo & Influence | 74:54 | 77:04 | | NBA Playoff Betting | 81:13 | 85:47 | | Speedy, Photos, and Ego | 86:13 | 99:25 | | Celebrity Hookups/Listener Voicemail | 103:10 |109:41 |

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Tone & Language

• Authentic, candid, and often irreverent. Banter is fluid and natural, with lots of in-jokes and playful ribbing.
• The hosts exhibit healthy skepticism toward social media drama and gossip cycles, but also admit their own curiosity and participation in those same cycles.
• The group’s dynamic balances humor with genuine insight, especially when discussing boundaries, “man code,” and the public/private lines that get tested (and blurred) in the music and podcasting worlds.

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Final Thoughts

"So So Messy" is a vintage New Rory & Mal episode—full of inside baseball about the culture, jokes about streaming and status, and deeply relatable observations about how messy (and strategic) grown-up friendships, social media, podcasting, and love lives have become. Whether you care about Drake rumors, relationship “ops,” or just like hearing hip-hop heads argue over who really raps better (and why), this episode delivers the laughs and behind-the-scenes realness fans love.

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[C]

Welcome back. Last 80 degrees day in New York City. Then we're going back to the snow. Everyone enjoy. Enjoy your your day today.

[D]

Celeste Demaris she'll be depressed tomorrow morning.

[A]

No tomorrow it's going to be 77. It's going to be the day after. I'll be depressed.

[C]

N. She's not going to be depressed. She's seeing Meg the Stallion on Ice. What? What?

[A]

Is she in Meg the Stallion on Ice? Moulin Rouge.

[C]

She's seeing Moulin Rouge with her sister.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

She's going out with her homegirls. No, she has like a. A jam packed weekend.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Which is great. Like, should I do Harriet's back to back? Like both coasts? I shouldn't roll with.

[D]

Nah, you can sit this one out. You don't have to do Harriet's on both coast. You don't have to do that. Don't do that to yourself. No, no, no, no. Don't do that.

[C]

I Mr. Harriet.

[D]

No, no, no. You're not Mr. Rory Harriet.

[C]

I'm Dirty Harriet.

[D]

No, no, you're Rory Farrell. You're Rory Farrell.

[C]

Well, how's everyone feeling?

[D]

Everyone's great, man.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

I'm speaking for everyone.

[C]

I like that.

[D]

Well, I'm great. I can't speak for Damaris and Peach and Ryan.

[C]

Okay. Well, I think they're doing okay. Yeah.

[D]

That's okay. We don't need to acknowledge ryan had his McDonald's and, you know, I mean, the marriage is going out this weekend.

[A]

Yeah. Y' all gonna link me?

[C]

He just talked me out of it. Well, I also wasn't invited when you were telling me your plans, which I

[D]

thought was a little odd.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And I mean, like, you never invited to Damaris's plans.

[A]

Like, you know, like, if you out and I'm out, and I'm like, oh, like, what's up?

[D]

Like, link, if you out and I'm out, that means don't call my phone. That's the. That's the nice way of saying you don't call my phone, like. Cause we not gonna be out at the same.

[C]

But I have a location, so I could really just be like, yo, I'm in the area.

[A]

Oh, that'd be awesome.

[C]

I just looked at your location. I had no idea.

[D]

Yeah. What are you doing here? Walking out of the same store I'm walking in.

[A]

Funny seeing you here.

[D]

Funny seeing you. Fancy seeing you here.

[C]

The last time that happened, when I was calling her about getting her some tickets, she looked at my location, said, I see you nearby. Do not come by my house. I didn't even realize I was that close.

[D]

She didn't want you to come to the crib?

[C]

No.

[A]

Well, I got a lot of steps. It's a walk up. You know what I mean?

[D]

I got a lot of steps. It's funny.

[C]

I had to get my steps.

[D]

Yeah, yeah. That's what.

[C]

That's what he's supposed to do. I was down 20 on my steps.

[D]

Yeah. Yes. He needed 30 more steps for that day. Damaris and you look, you ain't want him to come to the crib, that's your problem. We are back sponsored by Boost Mobile Unlimited Talk, text and do you have any plans?

[C]

I'm going to ask this question for every episode until it turns.

[A]

Yeah. No, I don't know why.

[D]

Plans?

[C]

No, because it's fun. I don't pee at the end of the year. Maybe AI could do it because that'd just be a. Maybe a Yankee just like a. A chopped up. What. What's Maul doing for the week?

[D]

Might catch Yankee again. Yankees playing this weekend. They here.

[C]

Oh, Pee is in there.

[D]

Okay. Pee might go to the game. Yeah, let's go to the game. Me. Me and Peej might catch a Yankee game.

[C]

Then would you come with me and Peej on the ferry one time?

[D]

The ferry to where?

[C]

T. Yankee Stadium.

[D]

Oh, yeah, yeah. I told Peej when I found out they was doing that. That's fire one experience that one time.

[C]

No, that'd be great.

[D]

Yeah. Take the ferry up to the. To the stadium.

[C]

I heard they got. They got pj.

[D]

Where they letting us out at the. No, no, see, we got to figure this out because I know. I know a ferry stops all the way up by Soundview in the Bronx.

[A]

I'm not screaming.

[C]

That's a crazy game.

[D]

I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that. I'll let y' all know that. Now I'm not going to sound for you to come to go to Yankee Stadium. I'm not doing that.

[C]

No, I think they. They let you off like somewhere in the Harlem River.

[D]

If they do, then it's lit, then we. We there. We pulling up. But if not, they had a map,

[C]

but I mean, it's. It's. It's too local. But I did see the map. No, they drop you off right by the stadium. Okay, but the. The one from Jersey said like an hour and five minutes. I'm like, oh, that's. That's a. Like a booze cruise type situation.

[D]

I'm not taking no. No boat. An hour to go see the Yankees play.

[C]

Well, I mean, it's from Jersey. This the one in the city, I think is like 40 minutes.

[D]

40 minutes as opposed to what?

[A]

That's not a long time.

[C]

It's like taking a helicopter.

[D]

You take the train yeah, but you

[A]

don't have the views. You don't get the smell of the Hudson River.

[D]

You get the smell of poverty. Keep you on your toes, you know? I mean, keep you from making them bad decisions. That's what you need to ride the train and look at life. See life in hd. You only one bad decision away. The marriage from being that lady that's sleeping from Broadway Junction all the way to Soundview.

[C]

What.

[A]

What bad decision could it be, though?

[D]

I don't know.

[A]

Me. Like, I just hope.

[D]

I hope you never find out.

[C]

Everyone has a different story, same destination.

[A]

I'd be thinking about that all day.

[D]

Shit hurt, don't it? I know it. I know it. Stay away from them drugs. And you go to Mulan Rouge. You take the wrong pill tonight.

[C]

Yo, what are you cool?

[D]

You gonna be sleeping on it. That's how it starts. It's one night of hanging out in. I mean, life is just.

[C]

Yeah, one night. It's. It's a social drug. Like, I could stop anytime I want.

[D]

I know. That's what they always say. They always say they can stop whenever they want.

[C]

No, I only smoke cigarettes when I'm drinking. Yeah, like one of those things.

[D]

Yeah, I know.

[A]

I feel bad when I see people like, damn. Like, I've been hitting the weed and the drugs my whole life. You hit that once and just was never the same.

[D]

Like, that's because they lying.

[A]

You not God's favorite people.

[D]

Be like, yo, I was. How you do. How did you. I was smoking weed and just. That's a lie. You were doing meth. You doing heroin. Like, you was not smoking weed and ended up homeless. Like, I don't want to hear that shit.

[C]

It's a gateway drug.

[A]

Somebody snuck. What gate.

[D]

What gate? Because I smoked a lot of weed and I ain't see a gate yet. Gateway drug.

[C]

Are you too old for the DARE Program?

[D]

Me?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Yes.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

I should probably be creative.

[A]

He probably created it.

[D]

I should probably be a counselor in the DARE program by now.

[C]

I.

[D]

The.

[C]

In our DARE program. My counselor, I knew for a fact smoke weed because we bought weed from him.

[D]

Yeah, but we.

[C]

When I was in seventh grade, you

[D]

know, weed is legal now, isn't it?

[C]

But that's all the DARE program was all about. Weed at that point.

[D]

Yeah. Remember they should compare weed to crack.

[C]

Yeah, same thing.

[D]

Crazy.

[C]

Sometimes you smoke so much weed, you find your father's rifle and you shoot yourself. Because I feel so wacky.

[D]

I remember I felt like doing that one time. Got so high off weed, so ready to shoot Myself. Who does that?

[A]

It happens.

[C]

Nobody has ever smoked weed and shot themselves.

[D]

The Marisa does not have.

[C]

Not shot themselves. May have had marijuana in their system. I'm saying the cause was not. Because they.

[D]

Yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't marijuana. Did it. That gentleman had plans on doing that anyway.

[C]

Yeah. And said, you know what? Let me get high before I do this.

[D]

The weed had nothing to do with that.

[A]

Well, there's articles coming out now that say that weed affects, like, your sperm. Like, it might cause, like, your sperm not as strong type. If you smoking too much weed.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

So like, it might like.

[D]

Cause you said the same thing about Tropical Fantasy. It's all a sham.

[A]

So Tropical Fantasy and Mountain Dew don't really. Your sperm up.

[C]

No.

[D]

It might give you diabetes, but it don't your sperm up.

[C]

The food you buy at Seatown, Whole Foods, Target, that's your sperm up.

[A]

Yeah. Yo, Walmart shoppers, yo. If you get your produce from Walmart, if you eating them apples that look like they're made out of wax, your sperm up.

[C]

No, chicken's clean. It's all fine.

[D]

Drink more water. That's all you need to do. Drink more water.

[A]

That's your answer.

[C]

They're free range chicken.

[D]

Yeah. Flush it out.

[C]

You run around.

[D]

Flush your system, flush your kidneys.

[C]

And they get exercised before.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Well, anyways, I feel like I. I want to call my man Simba. No more guy code anymore. Only Nori is holding down the guy code, which. Which we'll get to, please. Why? Simba posted me falling on stream.

[A]

You fell?

[C]

They were calling me Flory in the chat. So after.

[D]

What was this in Simba's stream?

[C]

So Simba was in my music video. Simba, who's now a SAG actor. So, you know, I had to pay his union fees and everything. But no, I was very thankful that Simba was in my video. After the video shoot, he was like, yo, you want to do my stream? I said, yeah, of course. Maybe did my video. I appreciate it. Of course I'll come on your stream. So left the video shoot and we went to his studio, which is incredible, by the way. And we're. We're getting docs for this. This price right now. He's got floors for less than what we pay, and he's in la, so I was thinking he was paying more than us. But he has a beautiful studio and he has, like, the streaming area. Okay, so me reason Brandy, who's. Who's an incredible comedian, she was also in the video. Start to get ready to do his stream. And in his stream room, there's, like, the lower floor, which reason is at right there. Then there's, like, a step up where the monitor is and a computer chair.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

It's not built for two computer chairs, but we were gonna try to make it work.

[D]

Got you.

[C]

They put the computer chair there. One of the wheels was halfway on the step. The other wasn't.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

I then adjusted my seat, and then this is what happened.

[D]

Okay. Hello.

[C]

You can give this one.

[A]

Their situation is a little different. They were kids. You try to be cool, too.

[D]

Oh, the funny is. You can see the. You can see, like, ladies and gentlemen, the slide. You can see the slide happening. Like, you can see when Rory felt his weight shifting.

[A]

Yo,

[D]

eyes is like, am I going, like, hurt myself?

[C]

No, I kind of accepted my fate. I felt it all in slow mo, like, it was too late.

[D]

You fell in slow motion, and you probably felt like you was falling off, like, a roof like this.

[A]

Yo, he felt like he was in the damn movie with Leonardo DiCaprio.

[D]

Yeah, Rory felt like he was falling off the third floor.

[C]

No, it's definitely Inception for sure, yo. No, it was a. It was a mega church baptism. Like, I literally fell. And, yo, we were already streaming at this point, you know? And mind you, there's a door right there, and like, 15 people can see.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

On top of this being a live stream and there's women around, like, at. At that point.

[D]

Just go home. Just go home. Go back to.

[C]

I think I did the honorable thing. The only thing you could do in that situation. I just stayed there and kept streaming. I just stayed like that.

[D]

Yeah, we here now. Fuck it, man. And you got to look at the chair to make sure it's the chair's fault. Check the wheels on it.

[C]

You know what's more embarrassing? Brandi's a comedian, and she finds everything hilarious. I would have rather her laugh at me. What was more embarrassing? She looked like she felt bad. It was like a motherly feeling. Like, damn, are you okay? Like, I'd rather you clown me.

[A]

That's the worst.

[D]

Why were you up there?

[C]

Cause we were streaming.

[D]

But why you couldn't sit where Brandi is sitting?

[C]

That's where Simba told me to sit.

[D]

Oh, he's so Simba said you lied.

[A]

He got you on a wheel. That's crazy.

[C]

You don't put nobody I respect. I mean, that took. That took brains to put that whole thing together.

[D]

I don't like that. I don't like that, man. Take my guy out the game.

[A]

Do you like streaming?

[C]

Yeah, that's fine.

[D]

Do you like streaming?

[A]

No, I mean, like, you know, because when he streams with us, he streams, but it's us. Like, it's whatever. It's like another episode. But with them it's like, you know, it's different.

[C]

No, it's fun to interact with the people that were there. But I mean, I couldn't for the rest of the stream once I eventually got back up and Simba plays like a lot of unsigned artist music and we're talking about certain topics. Anytime I try to give my opinion, they were like, nah, you fell on the floor. Like, we don't want to hear, we don't want to hear from you. That's the problem with live stream. If you up any opinion you have after that, the whole chat should be like, we. But we're not trying to hear from Flory right now. We're trying to hear from somebody that's sitting upright.

[A]

That's funny.

[C]

But no, it was a good time. Of course I enjoy live streaming. I love when we do it. It's a fun way to interact. It's just, you know, you catch like that.

[D]

It's okay. Sorry, this is a shortfall.

[A]

What's the new thing to like for streamers to like, do, like streaming link ups? Like, oh, this streamer comes and links out and links up and hangs with this streamer. Like, you can see it's over. That's what's the thing now, the streamer thing.

[D]

It's always been the thing, hasn't it?

[A]

Yeah, but they like collab now. Like, it's like a thing. Thing made it.

[C]

Yeah, it's like the same thing. It is.

[D]

All right, listen, man. Get your stream on, man.

[A]

You ain't gonna do it more.

[D]

What, link up with streamers?

[C]

No, get your stream on. Get, get, get your. No, that's not you.

[D]

I'll stream here, but I'm not linking up with streamers to stream.

[C]

Why not? You wouldn't do Simba stream. Sim is a talented rapper that also happens to stream now.

[D]

Yeah, like if I'm in la, I'll stop by Simba studio for sure. Oh, my God.

[C]

So that, that would be two streamers linking up then. Because he streams and you stream and we all stream.

[D]

I don't stream.

[C]

We can stream every weekend.

[D]

Stay away from the streams. I'm gonna stay out the stream. Stay out the streets.

[C]

Stick to the lakes and rivers that I'm used to.

[D]

Got them stream dreams, man. Stay out the stream dreams.

[C]

Not Ryan.

[A]

Ryan looked up how much Streamers make per month. Ryan, about his business. I like that.

[D]

Yeah, but they give you that. They give you that number, ryan, and then

[A]

50 to 200 grand is such a jump.

[D]

Yeah, like that. That gap is crazy. Like two over. You gotta study. Stay right there. See? What says two over? That's probably where most people land at.

[C]

Well, let's. Let's figure out how much. Can we find out how much Simba make, cuz? Yeah. Ow, my back, yo.

[D]

I'm gonna find out how much Simba makes.

[A]

Ask him.

[D]

I'm not popping, cuz.

[C]

I'm the su now.

[D]

Oh, yeah, text me.

[C]

That's what I'm saying. For damages. Haven't been able to sleep. Nothing. I'm not seriously saying Google.

[A]

That's why I just was like, ryan, pull up the list.

[C]

Fine. Let's turn it up. Anthony Fantano got the drop. When you're hearing this, Iceman is out. According to Anthony Fanto.

[A]

Tano. Tino Tano.

[C]

Some grease ball, some Italian name. Oh, my God, it should be out right now. According to Big Ant,

[A]

the room all turning and looking at. More like confirmed, nigga.

[C]

Like, when everyone's hearing us talk about this, am I at my house right now listening to the intro? Damn, this is the best intro I've ever heard. Is that happening at this moment?

[D]

Well, why did Fantany Fantano say that?

[C]

He said he has a very, very, very, very credible source that says we are getting Iceman in the next 36 hours. When he said it. That would land on Friday, which is the date that usually people drop music, which is Fridays. Mm.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

And Anthony has never lied.

[D]

That's true.

[C]

The most trusted music source in history. He's also never done this, though. That's why I'm even bringing it up. If this was a thing that he did of like, yo, I know when something's dropping. No, all he does is give very smug reviews to music. But I know him and Drake have had a very bad past. Is this a petty move, or am I listening to Iceman right now?

[D]

You asking me?

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

No.

[C]

You're not listening to Mal Fantano? No.

[A]

Okay, so that's confirmed. It's not coming this weekend?

[D]

It's not confirmed. But you're not listening to it this weekend, though.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Because I have a lot of things to do and I haven't gotten around to it. Or.

[D]

Oh, no, when Iceman drops, you'll. That'll be the first thing you do is listen.

[A]

Whatever.

[C]

You know, I'm asking if you're talking to me specifically or the world?

[D]

No, the world.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

Not just you. I don't know why he said that, but I would love to hear why he. Oh, you just said he had a credible source.

[C]

It was a very, very quick clip. Yeah, he said, I have a very credible source that Iceman will be dropping within the next 36 hours.

[D]

I actually, I told y' all last week, this is the most anticipated album ever. And y' all laughed at me.

[C]

Ever is. Ever is a stretch, but, yes, it's a.

[D]

What's the album that was more anticipated than this?

[C]

The Black album. It was in theaters.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

Nobody laughed at you, but it is anticipated and everybody is looking forward to it, so. But Anthony wrong is what you're saying. Just to wrap that up. Anthony's wrong.

[D]

I mean, I don't know who sources are, but his sources are wrong.

[C]

Okay, how does one even get that,

[D]

that source, you know, you say source, you just say sources. You don't have to, like, reveal your sources. Are you just say it. Sources. Sources told me. Who's the sources? I don't reveal my sources.

[A]

Niggas be lying whole time.

[D]

What are you talking about? You saw some video and you tried to put two and two together, and now that's your source. No.

[C]

Okay. And granted, I'm not like a fan of his platform or him in particular. I did a whole parody video on him. I. This is just not his thing. That's all. I'm. That's the only reason, again, why I'm really bringing it up. Well, I mean, he doesn't do this type of shit. Yeah, he would actually have a credible source. He's not one of those that's just going to troll and be like, yo, engineer of another engineer. The bass player on track seven told me this is coming out tomorrow. Like, he's not one of those people, so.

[A]

No, he could just have misinformation. That happens. But Ma. I trust Maul's information when it comes to anything.

[D]

We will all know when Iceman is dropping. It's not going to be a surprise.

[A]

Oh, it's not going to be a surprise drop.

[C]

That's how me and Peach were talking before you guys came to the office.

[D]

That.

[C]

Yeah, I think it'll be sort of a surprise drop, but I think we'll know that it's. It's coming out. With the stream stuff he was doing, I don't think he's just gonna drop, but I could be wrong. But I could also see a world because Drake hates Anthony. That, yeah, maybe he did. Maybe he did send a very credible. Maybe OVO Noel DM'd him and told him. Yeah, just to make him look stupid.

[A]

I don't know.

[C]

Like, I could. I could see Drake being petty because he hates him.

[D]

He gave Anthony some bad dope and

[C]

watched him o take his fence yo.

[A]

I don't know why, with everything we've experienced in the past two, three years, why people are still so comfortable coming out and saying my source that, like, oh, I have this information. This is coming, this is coming. Like, even if I got that information, I'm holding that close to my chest.

[D]

I'm sure I was about to say, like, I got the information and I'm not gonna say when the album is dropping. Like, I know that.

[C]

I was only saying that because this comes out the day that he's saying the album would come out. So you saying yes wouldn't matter because it would be out already. Yeah, but I mean, I. You predicted the co album. Like, there's been times we've all said when was dropping and have been wrong. So I don't think we should all act like we're above what Anthony just did.

[D]

Yeah, no, I get it. I'm not saying there's nothing wrong with Anthony did I. Just me. I. I don't know. I don't believe the album is coming out in 36 hours or whatever Anthony said. No, I don't believe that. I believe when Iceman is dropping, we will all know. We'll all kumbaya together and prepare for the countdown. And the countdown, you know, we'll watch, you know, the rollout happen. We'll all be entertained and we'll enjoy one of the best albums from one of the best artists we've had.

[C]

I mean, the seats were ice, man.

[D]

Yeah, man.

[C]

I feel like it's. I'm excited that I'm listening to the Iceman album right now.

[D]

That's all I'm saying right now.

[C]

You got it right. I know. It's gonna be on streaming. It's on streaming right now.

[D]

I can't wait for the album to drop though, so we can hear how many people. Like, this is trash.

[A]

But see, look what you're paying attention to. You part of the problem.

[D]

No, but I. I wanna. I want people to say that though.

[A]

But why?

[C]

But they're gonna say that before they even hit play, though.

[D]

That's why I want people to say it because that's what they're waiting to get off.

[C]

But who cares about that? Like, why not?

[D]

I know.

[C]

Why not be happy for the people Love it. That are excited about.

[D]

The people that love just support Drake are gonna. This album they're going to love. I'm not talking about that, but it's going to be fun to watch people say that, you know, oh, he fell off. This is his worst album. This is trash. Because once you hear this music, you know, they clearly lying. Like, this music is undeniable.

[C]

Like, so you just.

[D]

Is what it is.

[C]

You think Anthony's going to give it a light 9.

[D]

I don't know what Anthony's going to give it. I'm just saying, you know, you know, the content creators that are, you know, on that, they're waiting to do that because that is part of it too. That's part of this new thing to what Jay was talking about in this interview with G. With gq. There's a side. No matter what, this album sounds like it could be the greatest album we've heard in 30 years. There's gonna be a large amount of content creators that they're gonna make it their business to hate it no matter what. And I just think that that's entertaining, whether I'm on that side or not. I think it's all part of entertainment.

[C]

Go ahead.

[A]

I feel like we should. I mean, I hear you, but I feel like. I don't feel like we should even entertain that as entertaining anymore. Watch it. Because I want them to.

[D]

But it's all opinion.

[C]

But it's not. It's not opinions. It's. It's. Who can get to it quicker. Even the streamers that love Drake are gonna put it on at midnight and scream how amazing it is before actually, like, listening to it. No, it's the. The haters and lovers all want to be the first to say their opinions react.

[D]

The first voice.

[C]

So that's where I'm like, I don't really care what reactions are like, shit. Even me reasoning Damaris. When. When Cole's album came out, we were doing that shit in our group chat.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Because, like, we're all music fans and like, just quick reactions. They want to do this shit publicly so they can get the craziest reaction to, like, they want to get to the biggest feature first so they can be the ones falling out of their seat like I just did.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

But it'd be purpose.

[D]

And I just think it's all. It's all opinion no matter what.

[C]

I don't even think it's an opinion anymore. I think everyone in this room will have an opinion, but I don't think everybody has our thing in music Anymore. Reactions. Reactions aren't opinions. That's where has.

[D]

No, that's not true. You react to your opinion.

[C]

Nah. Yeah, at one point, yes, your reaction was an opinion, now a reaction.

[D]

Opinions are monetized. Now you can monetize your opinions.

[C]

Reactions are driving traffic.

[D]

No matter what you opinions, lie to yourself and say it's the worst album you ever heard. Lie to yourself, people. That's how I feel. I mean, you know, that's a reaction.

[A]

That's what everything like. Honestly, I feel like being able to monetize social media, like I get, you know, monetizing YouTube, whatever, but being able to monetize social media, even when it comes to, like Twitter and shit like that, people are just saying anything. Like, anything to get money. Like there. There are no real opinions anymore. People are saying whatever is, is gonna make them money.

[C]

No. Now they'll take a clip from an interview and in the caption start quoting quotes that never existed in that interview to get you to click the video. And then you watch the video go, wait, they weren't even talking about the subject. That they just listen, I can't with it anymore. That's why I said it's reactions.

[D]

It's not.

[C]

I don't care at all what the Internet is going to think about this album, good or bad. Because I know it won't be from a place of good. Whether they are loving Drake or hating Drake, it's just going to come from a place of. Can I say it first? And can I have the craziest reaction?

[A]

I will.

[C]

Nothing is going to matter with me. The cold was the same way.

[D]

True. But no matter what, I mean, obviously y' all know that I would never reveal anything. But I will say this, though. This will be undeniably. I don't even want to say too much, man, but it's just. Y' all don't even know what's about to happen with this album. Let me just say that y' all don't even know what Drake is preparing to do. Like, the things he's preparing to do and the music he's created, the way he's getting ready to entertain the culture. It's on a whole different level.

[C]

Like, what's your favorite Drake album?

[D]

I don't know. I thought it was Take Care, but then I was listening to Nothing Was the Same and views. I don't know. I thought it was Take Care.

[C]

All right, well, let's go with Take Care. Do you think from what you've heard on Iceman and what we're about to hear is better than take care of.

[D]

Let me say this, this is the best. This is some of the best raps I've ever heard from Drake, okay? Just rapping, just rapping. This is some of the best bars, best rapping that I've heard from him. But aside from that, just what he's preparing to do is it's crystal clear who the top dog is after this, okay? Crystal clear. There's nobody that can entertain like Drake. There's nobody that can make music like Drake. Coming from Al, I'm talking about as a rapper. He's a rapper first. He's more than just a rapper, but he's a rapper first. He's not a singer, but just from a rapper. What Drake is able to do and what he's getting ready to do and his team is put together with this. With this album. I think this is a different attention to detail. I think no stone goes unturned. I think that he's tapped into another level of creativity. And I think everything that's happened to him was. I think it was for this reason. It was for this, this moment.

[C]

Is this closer to the album that all us hip hop nerds always wanted. Like, yo, can you just give us the 12 track, 40 produced rap Drake album? He's the closest.

[D]

He's rapping, okay? He's rap.

[C]

And this is why you can't win for losing. Because if it is that, everyone that hates Drake is gonna be like, yo, look what Kendrick got Drake on. Kendrick inspired him to rap. I mean, you say you can't win for losing. That's why I don't care about whether

[D]

people want to take. That's why I said everything happens for a reason. And I think that everything that Drake went through in the last two and a half years, I think was. It was. It was a. It was a. It was an evil, necessary. The way it happened was kind of crazy and nasty. But I think that, you know, the artist that he is, I think he found a way to find, you know, what all of that meant and found a way to create through that. And I think that he tapped into another level of artistry and, you know, just his creative circle, you know, the things that they've been able to put together with this. You know, I'm excited to see it. I'm excited to hear it. I'm excited to watch people react to it. I think it couldn't have come at a better time. Everybody's complaining about music not being exciting right now, not being dead. So they all want Drake to save. What is it? Save the summer. Give us the music, give us the soundtrack. And I think. Yeah, man, I just think it's gonna be exciting to watch people just receive the art, man. And I'm looking forward to it.

[C]

Oh, man, we got the streamers for the summer.

[A]

I need a good photo captioner or two.

[D]

So are you. There's nothing but. There's nothing but that. You have captions for the next. For the next six years from this, from this, from this drop. I promise you that.

[C]

I hope it pisses Fab off so he can give us some caption, right?

[D]

Yeah, man. It's gonna be exciting, though. I'm looking forward to it. I don't believe it drops when Anthony Fantano says, says it drops, but, you know, when it does, I think everybody will be, for the most part, happy and appreciative.

[A]

Just to wrap this conversation up, you said that you thought Take Care was your favorite album, and then you went and listened to Nothing Was the Same in Views. Right? So do you understand what I was saying last week or two weeks ago when I was talking about how we used to think that Take Care was the clear classic, but when you go back and you re. Listen to Nothing Was the same in Views, it's not as clear that that's the clear classic. Do you now understand what I was saying?

[D]

I mean, I think. Yeah, and then for people, it changes. Like, I think we hear things when we go back and listen to album. We appreciate certain songs differently as the years go, but I think it was the. What was the song with him and Janae From Time.

[A]

From Time.

[D]

I think that was the moment that Drake changed as an artist. I think that record changed Drake as an artist. I think he completely turned into a whole different artist after that record. On Nothing Was the Same.

[C]

Why do you say that?

[D]

Because I was listening to Take Care, which came out before that. Right. Nothing was the same. And. And when I, As. As I'm listening to Nothing Was the Same and that song came on and I go to Views and all of that, I think I point to that song. Like, I think that was. That song changed Drake's sound as a rapper. I think he. He became a different rapper after that song.

[A]

And you're talking about rap wise, not like melody wise.

[D]

No, rap.

[A]

Okay. Because I was gonna say I feel like Take Care, people would say changed it more melody wise, but that makes sense rap wise.

[D]

Yeah. I think after. From Time, I think Drake changed as a rapper.

[C]

I mean, Nothing was the same to me as the Conduit between old Drake and new Drake. Nothing was the same. Was the end of old Drake.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And the start.

[D]

But I think it was specifically with

[C]

that record because I'm listening to it

[D]

and I'm, you know. And I'm not hot. I don't smoke no more. So, you know, I'm not like, I'm not just talking shit. I'm not hot. But, like, I'm listening to it and I'm like. I kept going back to the From Time record, like, after. Like, I'm on views and I'm listening and I'm like, oh, I think this was Drake's turning point as a rapper. I think it was this song. I love that record. But something. I think something changed with Drake after that. I don't know if he just approached writing differently or whatever it was, but I think that's the moment that Drake. Drake changed as a rapper was from

[C]

time to time I. With you there. And I think, just hold on. We're coming home.

[D]

Yes.

[C]

A big. How you get to views the music? Yeah, like, of course, you know, you had. What's the Kanye shit from thank me Later, Better Find My Love. Like, of course you had records where Drake's full out trying to make a single, just singing. But just hold on to me was. Now we're getting into New Drake.

[D]

That.

[C]

That gets you the views, in my opinion. So. Yeah, you're right. Nothing was the same to me as a conduit between, you know, BC and AD in that regard. Now I don't know. Like, I don't know what sound he's gonna go with.

[D]

Iceman. Oh, yeah.

[C]

I have no idea. I did bars on I95 before you came. I did their bar for bar segment.

[D]

Oh, I'm supposed to do that. Man, I gotta. I gotta hit my.

[C]

I think. I think they may come back after we record this. Man, that. That's just. I love doing that type of stuff, and I hate doing that type of stuff.

[A]

Why?

[D]

Because you gotta pick.

[C]

Or they started out and I'm not gonna spoil the whole thing, but it was a great, great quick episode just starting with Gibbs versus Benny. It's like, I don't. Like, where do you want me to go with this? And then we did a bracket thing. Like.

[D]

But it's bar for bar.

[C]

I know. And I don't. In their prime the whole time. Like, you can't pick in those situations. I hate how fucking black and white things have to be. Like, there's such a gray area with that.

[D]

No, but it's bar You. You think it too much into it. Bar for Bar. Not songs, not artists.

[C]

No, I know that. No, just Bar for Bar. Yeah.

[D]

I don't think that's that tough a decision between Freddie and Benny.

[A]

What would you pick?

[D]

Well, I'm shooting the episode with them, so I gotta. They might ask me the same question, so.

[C]

Oh, you know, they're going with the Drake ones for sure. But no, it's just tough with. With certain stuff. Like, I was like, push versus Kiss and it's like, I don't. In a freestyle.

[D]

Both.

[C]

I don't know like what to tell you.

[D]

Yeah, that's where it gets tough for me. Because you say Bar for Bar and once you name Kiss, him against anybody is kind of like sh. That's a tough out. Yeah, that's a tough bar for Bar. Just let Kiss rap. Yeah, that's a tough out.

[C]

Yeah, it's a really dope segment. I can't wait for it to come out. I just know there's no winning for me when I do those segments. Like, no matter what it's gonna be. This is why we don't let people like this in the culture. I could not answer anything right in those scenarios whatsoever.

[D]

Yeah, but as long as you didn't say what Wayne O said. Wayneo said the craziest ever. I'm not gonna repeat it.

[C]

He.

[A]

I mean, he said it. Is it public knowledge?

[C]

They brought Wayno up and I didn't see Ueno's episode. Crazy Jay Z for everything is what they told me.

[D]

It got to that you could say.

[C]

And I'll react to it.

[D]

You know, he is.

[C]

No, we're doing reactions today. We're not doing opinions reactions. No opinions.

[D]

Yeah. Wayne knows. My God, that's fair. But he. He went crazy on his boss for boss. Like, I was like.

[C]

I had egregious ones too. What was his egregious one? I had Banks to the finals in my bracket.

[D]

Wayno said bar for Bar. Meek raps better than Drake.

[C]

I completely disagree with him.

[D]

I think everybody completely disagrees.

[A]

I would disagree with him.

[C]

I completely like. I completely like. I. And I really respect Wayo's music opinion for sure. Respectfully. That. That's. That's insane.

[D]

And I fuck with Meek, you know? You know, I with Meek. That's my nigga. But we used Bar for Bar.

[C]

Comparable.

[D]

Like, come on, man. Like, we don't gotta do that. We have the bars. Like, it's in front of us to like, listen to, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, come on, man.

[C]

But what was tough with that is a lot of, like, a lot of the people they brought up didn't freestyle that. Like, I could find a thousand Kiss freestyles, like, every time they brought Nas up. Of course, Nas used to freestyle. Hot 97. Like, he would have freestyles. Of course I want to pick Nas on stuff, but I've seen the people he's going against freestyle a thousand times.

[D]

Yeah, so.

[C]

Because the way they structured it to me was if they came on bars on i95 and started rapping, who's better? I'm like, I don't know if Nas sits and does the freestyle thing. So it's like, yeah, it's a little different, in my opinion.

[D]

It's tough, but at some point you just gotta like.

[C]

I think. I think Kiss is gonna come with way more prep than Nas coming to a freestyle now.

[D]

Like 1000%.

[C]

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[C]

It's fun for hip hop. I prefer that over Nori talking about Offset and Sweetie. Like I'd rather debate with i95 about

[A]

don't do that to no, I love

[C]

Nori to death and I'm sure Nori would rather debate about what I'm talking about than this, but he's he has a job to do and drink champs ask questions when people are drinking. He's created a great platform that sometimes will get a little Messy.

[D]

A little. A lot of messy.

[C]

Nori was talking to Jason Lee on Jason Lee's platform.

[D]

Oh, God. Nori and Jason Lee. Oh, that's the best of the mess. That's the best of the best right there.

[C]

Yo. And you know, we're supporters of Jason Lee up here. I really do. With Jason Lee.

[D]

He said, no, I don't. With Jason Lee, because Jason Lee's supposed to come up here, man.

[C]

He was running for office. He was on a campaign.

[D]

Now he. He hit me and said he is gonna. He is gonna come by next time he's in New York.

[C]

So I know I fuck with Jason Lee.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

But I do want to confront him about something he did say in this Nori episode. I think it was with Nori. It was this. This week when Jason Lee was talking to everybody. He was like, because, you know, I don't really care about who's fucking who. And I was like, well, he didn't. I rewound the shit. Like, isn't that your whole fucking platform?

[A]

Yeah, but that only care. We talk about a lot of shit

[C]

we don't care about. That's a fair response. Like, that is a fair. I don't care.

[D]

I don't care. But I'll.

[C]

But you do care about your mortgage.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And I'm not saying Jason Lee's entire platform is built off who's fucking who, but to say that Hollywood Unlocked does not have a large population of who's fucking who. Yeah. I just found it funny. Yeah. Either way, fuck with Jason Lee. Nori's on there. They're talking about a phone conversation they had after Offset was on Drink Champs and Jason Lee revealed that there was a question that Nori asked. Hey, did you fuck, sweetie? And Offset gave an answer, and he cut it out.

[D]

Being advised by Diddy, Nori asked Offset if he. Sweetie.

[C]

Yeah. In Nori's defense, he was like, I didn't even mean it, to say it. Like, it just. It just came out.

[D]

That's just so nasty.

[C]

Not saying that's what the people want to hear.

[A]

Say it.

[D]

Who wants to hear that?

[C]

But the people want to hear.

[D]

I just think as men, you just don't ask men like that on camera.

[C]

Okay, well, like, if we kicking it

[D]

away from the camera.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

I'd be like, yo, son, keep it real. You, sweetie. I'd ask away from the camera. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

Just.

[D]

Cause I'm just like, you know.

[C]

Cause you're nosy.

[D]

It is like, yo, fuck it. Like, I just want to know. We really heard about it on camera with the shores in front of us. No, we not doing that.

[C]

Well, even we had Offset up here, and this didn't come from him. It came from his team. They were. They said, no, sweetie questions. And we looked at them like we were not planning on asking any of that. You don't need to tell me that. But I get it. And I think it was probably. It was post drink champs, I believe, so that's probably why they threw that in there. So Diddy, of all people, advised Nori to cut that part out. So cut it out. But Nori and Jason Lee had the conversation about it.

[D]

Did Jason Lee get. Get the answer? Because you know Jason gonna get the answer.

[C]

Nori said, because of man code, I cut it out. And then Jason Lee said, would you sell me the footage? He said, nope. Would you sell Carter the footage? Nope. He joked around numbers, but he said, nope, I wouldn't do it because of man code. And here's my thing, Nori, I love you to death, but you gave us the answer in this entire situation.

[D]

No, don't do that. No, he didn't.

[C]

Yes, he did.

[D]

No, he didn't.

[C]

I love North.

[D]

I get why you saying that.

[C]

But no man code, for real would have. Not like if Jason Lee brought it up going, I don't even know what you're talking about, cuz. Now, you wouldn't have cut it out if Offset said, y' all tripping. Why would you? I would never, sweetie. Y' all are crazy. The only answer that you would cut out.

[D]

I understand is I understand why you say that. I understand why you say that. But.

[C]

And. And said Diddy told them y' all are trying to ruin marriages.

[D]

Okay, I get.

[C]

I get why man code ain't there anymore.

[D]

I give. I listen. You're making valid points. Let me just say that. You're making very valid points.

[C]

And you know Nori's my man, so I would always keep it 100 with him.

[D]

But there can also be. Nori know that this is going to cause conversation. He's sitting down with Jason Lee now. People gonna want to talk about it. He knowed if he kind of leans into it, embellishes like, yeah, I had to cut it out. Cause you know, it's just mad code. And he know people like, oh, so that means he did.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Or he said he did. Like, he knows that that's what it's gonna seem like. But that doesn't mean that that's what Offset said.

[C]

If your girl barges in here in the middle of our podcast and looks and says, rory, did he fuck that girl last night? And I'd be like, man code, I ain't saying shit. I just said you fucked that girl.

[D]

Nah, nah, I get what you're saying. I get what you're saying.

[C]

But man code is me looking at your girl going, I don't know what you're talking about. I was at home.

[D]

But that could come off the same way. That could come off like you trying to, like, cover for me because I did some crazy shit.

[C]

I've been in these situations where women have woken me up in the same Airbnb asking why they matter. I don't know what you talking about. I'm going back to sleep.

[D]

Yeah, but that could be taken as.

[C]

It was the truth.

[D]

But I'm just saying that could be taken as, yeah, he did. Like, Ma was on some bullshit, I bet.

[C]

Better than telling some. Telling a girl to her face is man code.

[D]

I get what you're saying. That's why I said you making valid points. I'm not arguing your point.

[A]

So, two. Okay, two, you both do have a point. But what I will say is this. Maybe there is nuance to it, because there's a chance that. And this is so mess. There's a chance that Offset said, no, but. And then there are little things that he might not have fucked her, but there might have been other things that were inappropriate or shit like that. So it's not black or white. Like, the answer could have been nuanced, but yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[D]

It could have been things in there where it's like, he didn't, but it was still inappropriate actions, I think.

[A]

I don't think Nori was being strategic with this. Like Mal is saying, I don't think Nori was being strategic. I think Nori.

[D]

Everybody's strategic.

[A]

Not everybody mad, but a lot of people try to be, but sometimes people are just people and they say shit they shouldn't say. And it's like, oh, fuck.

[D]

Well, I think Nori is strategic. He's been successful in this podcast game. I think he's in his strategic era, okay. I think he's in his strategy era, okay? I think everything has its purpose with Mr. Nori.

[C]

Now, Nori. And this is a good story where Nori was strategic. It was no beef, no nothing. Drink champs used to have, like, actual parties in the parking lot at their first location. And I was down there for basil or some shit, and I wasn't going on drink champs. I was out in the Parking lot party. So I was like, yo, Nori wants you to come on. I was with, like, Static Select. Like, no, it was. It was very hip hop.

[A]

Yo, be in the parking lot with statics.

[C]

Like the shop statics. No, we was. Everyone was just kicking it. Xzibit was there. Like, it was just a cool.

[D]

Oh, so you was parking lot pimping exhibit is there?

[C]

Actually, I ran into it.

[D]

Yeah, See, there you go.

[C]

He's like, yo, yo, Nori wants you to come Mark. I was like, okay. I mean, I cool, but I wasn't planning on going on drink champs. I walk in, you can find this. You can see I'm cooked crooked. I was there. And that was right during the slaughterhouse beef. And sit down. And Nori said, so what you think about slaughterhouse beef? I'm like, am I in slaughterhouse? I have no idea. And then once it was over, we're in the parking lot, I'm sitting with Nora. I'm like, why the would you do that to me, bro? The projects. You should have trusted me.

[D]

You shouldn't have trusted me. That's real fun.

[C]

Like, I love Nori. Like, I thought it was the funniest thing ever, and it was totally fine. But tomorrow's point of Nori's strategic. He wasn't calling me in there to get my opinion. He was trying to make a moment of me sitting next to crook and shout out to crook. Love crook. But at that time, it was weird. So I'm sitting there now, and it's like, I have nothing to do with this conversation. What do I have to do with this?

[A]

He got at his job. That's why he's successful.

[C]

He's strategic. Nori is the furthest thing from stupid.

[A]

I think he. I don't know. But see, I don't think there's stupid and strategic. I think Nori falls more into bold and audacious. Like. Like, there's things that y' all would naturally think to say. It's not you being strategic and asking, but you would naturally think to say that you guys don't. And we've had that argument where I'm like, ask. And then if they don't answer, they say, take it out. Like, whatever. But never be afraid to Nori. Don't be afraid to ask.

[D]

It's just certain. I'm just never asking somebody just because I really don't, which is fine. But I don't know.

[C]

Like, I don't think it takes away from somebody's character. Like, it's not something I would Ask. But I don't view Nori to be weird to ask that question on his platform. You get to what is what people want to know. Like, I think there's nothing wrong with him asking that question. It's not something. It would make me feel uncomfortable. But that's just me.

[D]

No, it is not.

[C]

Like on a moral. I'm not on a. I think it's

[D]

not wrong with him asking that question.

[C]

I don't know, man. All the.

[D]

Absolutely.

[C]

I hate to explain. I hate to do that. It's what you signed up for type thing, but it is explain Ma.

[A]

Why do you think it's weird?

[D]

Why do I think asking that question is weird?

[A]

Yes.

[D]

I just think asking anybody who they is weird. Whether I'm a podcaster and got cameras and mics or not. I don't ask nobody in their regular life.

[C]

Now I said you'd ask all said off mic about it.

[D]

But on some like because of we all know what the the word is and what's going around. But like I wouldn't be asking for it to use it for information to, you know, shoot an episode and I wouldn't be doing that. It would be awesome. Just because I with offset just like I would ask you if you was going through some publicly and me and you get along like, yo, Roy, you did that shit, bro. It's the same type of shit. Like I just would want to know but not because I'm going to use it to go sit down somewhere and be like, nah, you know what I'm saying, man? Cold. I can't do that. You know, I'm not doing that. That I'm not doing. No, no, no, no. I would never do that.

[C]

I. I don't think there's anything wrong with asking the question. I respect cutting it out. I just don't like the man code thing because the perception of that is he said I that girl. Whether it's true or not. I'm just giving you what the perception of. I don't think I'm alone.

[A]

No, that's the bible right now. That's what I'm talking about.

[D]

The marriage is a woman. If you're in that situation and your ex husband goes on a podcast and now the podcast is saying, yeah, you know, I asked him, what do you feel about that?

[A]

I feel like with those people's lives, even though they may not speak on.

[D]

No, I'm saying if you, if you were in that position, if it was, you know.

[A]

But what I'm telling you is even though they may not speak on that, they probably already know that whole.

[D]

All of those people, they know, all parties involved know.

[A]

They know what happened.

[D]

Yeah, of course.

[A]

So the it becoming like public knowledge and shit like that. It's like, I might not come out and say something. I might not have proof or I might not do this, might not do that. But it's like, oh, if the public finds this out, then they find that out.

[D]

No, but how would you feel if that was you in the situation? Like you're watching that, like. And would you feel some type of way about what Norrie is doing?

[C]

Saying like, no, because I'm not the

[A]

person who business he telling like, I didn't do anything wrong. If that is true, I was the person.

[D]

No, I'm saying if you were, if that was your ex husband he was talking to and asking him if he basically cheated on you, would you feel some way about Nori going on the platform and the way he was sitting down with Jason Lee talking about it?

[A]

No, because if you did it, the world needs to know you did it. Maybe I don't want to come out and say that, but you are dealing

[C]

with like, nori doesn't owe me anything.

[A]

Yeah, you're dealing with the consequences of your life.

[D]

You don't owe anybody anything. I'm just saying how would you feel as a woman in that situation? Like if you was with a woman involved.

[A]

But I'm telling you as a woman, if I am a public figure, my husband is a public figure. If he does things that come eventually come out and people are doing their job and asking him about it in an interview, then they come out like, you shouldn't have been doing that you ain't have no business doing. Whether he did it or not, all of this is hypothetical. You got to deal with the consequences of your own actions. I already dealt with it in real life. If it happened, I already dealt with it in real life. Like now your is being exposed and that happens. That don't got to do with me, especially if it's my ex husband.

[D]

But oh, no, it got something to do with you.

[A]

It's gonna cause my name to be in the headlines.

[D]

You involved? Yeah, you involved in the situation for sure.

[A]

Have you guys ever accidentally given one of your homies up? Like with good intentions, like on accident? Not strategically like what you guys think Nori is, but like you accidentally said some shit.

[C]

I don't think Nori strategically gave off

[A]

set up, but you accidentally said some shit. I was like, God damn, fuck, I wish I could take that back and

[D]

jammed up my homeboy in his relationship.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Nah.

[A]

Or maybe not even a relationship business wise. Like, whatever.

[D]

Nah, definitely not business wise. But then definitely not relationship wise either.

[A]

Really?

[C]

Yeah, I don't think so.

[D]

I don't talk about, like, I don't. Like, I'm different when it comes to, like, my friends and, like, their relationships with their women. Like, I don't. I don't really, like, get into that. Like, it's not gonna be much. Like, I don't. I don't know nothing. Because we don't really speak. We don't hang out. Like, I'm not trying to get cool with your girl you dating. And I'm not. I'm not that guy. So you can never come to me and ask me anything because we don't even have that type of relationship.

[A]

Not even an ask. But sometimes you're just living your life in. Somebody lied on you or some shit like that, or used you in a

[D]

lie you weren't aware. Okay, then that ain't on me.

[A]

Yeah, no, you gotta get me to play. But I saw.

[D]

You gotta let me know that I'm playing the Tin man in the wizard of Oz. You can't be mad if I start acting like the Cowardly lion and you like, no, nigga, I said you was the Tin Man. Like, you didn't tell me that, though. You told your girl that. That was my role. But, like, you gotta give me the play. Once you give me the play, then I know how to run the play. But if you don't, if you just lied to your girl and said, nah, me and Ma was. You got to make sure Maul know that me and you was whatever we was, wherever you said we was at. But you can't do that and then not tell me that. Your girl one day, now she doing her covert questioning, like, yeah, y'. All. Y' all was out all night the other night, and she talked about my reaction. I'm like, what? I was. I was home. I don't know what you talking about. I don't know. I just jammed you up. Now, sometimes you could read the play like a seasoned vet. You could kind of tell, like, oh, she fishing. She fishing.

[A]

Mal, when you said that you don't get involved with your friends, girls and shit like that. And I know that we've had that conversation. It's currently going viral, that Quavo was at the Cardi concert. Cardi shouted him out, called, you know, called him her brother, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And a lot of people are saying that Quavo was being weird or disloyal for continuing after such a messy divorce to have, like, such a public relationship with Cardi.

[C]

I love when Damaris gets on her journalistic voice.

[A]

Shut up.

[C]

Currently, what's going viral.

[D]

So what are you asking me, baby D?

[A]

I'm asking you, do you think that that's weird, or do you think that they should be killing him for that?

[D]

Do I think Quavo's weird for going

[A]

to a Cardi show for continuing to have such a close relationship after post divorce? Because you just said that you don't get.

[D]

Yeah, especially because him and Offset are probably not in the best of places right now. Yeah, it's a little. It's a little. It's intention. It's strategic. It's strategy.

[A]

I don't think so.

[D]

Quavo going to the show is strategy. That wasn't just, I'm going to support. Cause if it's just, I'm going to support. I don't want my face on the big screen. Don't show that. I'm here.

[A]

But she chose to do that. He didn't.

[D]

Yeah, but he had to agree to it. I guess he had to stand in, do all that. He was doing all this and doing what? All this. Whatever he was doing. Yeah, but. Yeah, you gotta do all of that. Nah, I could just come here and support. That's it. I'm not saying don't. You can't. He can't support Cardi, like, you know, and he can't have a relationship with her. But to display it and all of that. I think that's strategic. I think they know what's gonna come of that. It's strategy.

[A]

People.

[D]

People are strategic. It is what it is. They know that that was gonna go viral. The Internet was gonna be talking about it, and then podcasters will be talking about it. Everything is strategic, man. Nothing is just. Oh, no, I was just showing love. I was at the show. Cut the. Cut it out. You know what that is? You know what that's gonna. Cause just like when Safaree went to Nicki's show. Why are you there?

[A]

That's different, though. But I get it.

[D]

Why are you there?

[C]

He can't. He was part of a lot of that journey of those songs.

[D]

Of course.

[C]

I'm not saying. Right. He was just a part of the journey, is what I'm saying.

[D]

Yes, he was.

[C]

He sat like this for a:30 on Letterman with Will. I am came out and why are you there?

[A]

I think he was there for attention, but I Think, Quavo. Really, this is my thing. If we cool, no matter if you. If we met through a mutual and you not cool with them no more. I don't want nobody hiding that you fuck. Don't hide that you fudge with me. Like, don't have that. Be private. Fuck with me, like, in public. Don't just fuck with me in, you know, behind closed doors. That's fake support. Like, if you love me, if we have a real relationship, no matter who's going to be pissed off or who's going to write some shit in a vlog, like, fudge with me.

[C]

My bandmate and cousin with is your ex husband. There's also rumors of him fucking my ex girlfriend. No, that's not just like a Yo, that's a mutual. I think we follow the same people on ig.

[D]

No, that's strategic. Like, it's a lot.

[C]

There's a lot there.

[D]

It's a lot to unpack.

[C]

That's a crazy Thanksgiving.

[A]

Okay, so, hi. But we obviously, we don't know that's

[C]

a why did I get married dinner scene.

[A]

Obviously, we don't know these people. Y' all don't think that they genuinely, like, look. Each look at each other like brother and sister. Like, I was married.

[D]

I'm not saying they don't. I'm not saying they don't. I'm just saying when you go to her show and then they put you on camera on the big screen and all of that, and it's. That's strategic. It just is what it is.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

It's strategic. It's like, okay, we know what that's gonna go get.

[C]

Sweet.

[D]

Quavo was at your show. Quavo, yo, he was at the show. Oh, shit.

[A]

So is he not supposed to go?

[C]

Quavo's a grown man. He can do what the fuck he want to do.

[A]

I think that that's weird.

[D]

It's also messy. So you'll see it and say, that's not messy.

[A]

I don't think that is messy. I don't. Me personally, I don't think the man.

[D]

How you don't think that's messy?

[A]

Because I feel like if you're married to someone and their best friend slash cousin, like, that's now your family. Just because we divorce. And yes, so and so might have slept with so and so. And it's some weird going on. Was being weird. If that is true, then Offset or whatever and Quavo's ex were being weird. If that's true. If it's not true, whatever. But if that's true, they were being weird. What the fuck does that have to do with us? I now can't fuck with you outlets.

[D]

Me and my cousin, we not even speaking. We don't even fuck with each other.

[A]

But. So I don't fuck with him either.

[D]

Yeah. So now my ops is linking up.

[A]

But they were. We were already family beforehand.

[D]

Yeah, but family ain't gotta be. We ain't gotta be at the same show. I ain't gotta go to your show. Cause we family. Shit weird right now.

[C]

Let me ask you this question.

[D]

Shit weird. It's weird right now. I love you, but I can't come to the show. You know that. Me and him ain't speaking. It's allegedly some shit happened with him and my ex. Like, you and him is divorced. Y' all not species. It's messy right now. I love you, but I can't come to the show and be on doing all that. And gang, I'm not. Can be. It's messy. No, it looks like the ops is linking up and now y' all having a. Y'.

[C]

All.

[D]

Y'. All. Y' all trauma bonding. It look like y' all trauma bonding right now.

[A]

After. Nah, I don't.

[C]

All right.

[D]

It look like y' all trauma bonding.

[C]

Let me ask you this. Let's say Quavo and Offset never had an issue. Let's. Let's say the two of them are rocking. Rest in peace to takeoff. Two thirds of the Migos are still rocking together, but Offset and Cardi are divorced. Can Quavo go to that show?

[A]

Yes. I don't understand. I don't understand.

[D]

Like, I'm not listening to marriage. She tripping.

[A]

I think y' all are misunderstanding, like.

[C]

And I'm not. They had a messy. Not just like a. Hey, I don't think we're right for each other, but let's co parent. Yeah. Like, yo holidays be together. It's messy.

[A]

Okay. It's messy between us. But that's the same thing as if, like, Offset had a relationship with. He had a close relationship with Aunt Cardi. Had. Or Hennessy or whatever.

[D]

Let me give it to you like this. Him, Offset and Quavo, they're not speaking. They're not on speaking terms. They don't really fuck with each other like that. Right. Do you don't feel like him going to that Cardi show is him choosing a side?

[A]

They have kids together. Choosing a side. They have children together. We are family for the rest of our life. Yes. We doing messy shit on the Internet and Being whatever. But we have a fam. Our families are linked for the rest of their life. We have.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

No, that's a fact.

[A]

Choosing a side. There is no side. We not opps. Beefing, shooting at each other.

[D]

No, we're not. But it's messy shit going on right now. And me and you don't speak. And now you have my ex wife's show.

[C]

If it's all love, why wasn't offset there with Quavo?

[A]

Well, obviously

[D]

it's all family.

[C]

Where the kids at home. Because sometimes you gotta do it for the kids.

[D]

Yeah. Let the nieces and nephews, let the cousins play backstage and all of that. If it's fam. If it ain't messy, we gonna be together no matter what. Ride together, die together. Right? That's what all that Migos for life. Yeah. Amigos. No value for us where that's at. That's him picking aside. That's messy, Damaris. It's messy. You know it is.

[A]

I feel like that's like if you guys. Let's say you guys split up and broke up and hated each other and all of that shit, right? And obviously I have a prior relationship with Rory, but, you know, we work together. We have a relationship too because of Rory. But whatever. You guys break up, I now have to choose a side. I can never hang with both of y'.

[D]

All. You missing out. But you a certain element. You leave.

[C]

If you want to be cool with like Maul in that regards. Whatever.

[D]

Cool.

[C]

If Mall is doing the Garden and you dancing side stage, I' ma look at you like you crazy.

[A]

That's. I think that that's insane. Unless. Unless.

[C]

If you want to make a moment out of our breakup, I'm looking at you crazy. If you have your own separate relationship with Mall, you guys really bonded. That's a friendship. Whatever. Our is our.

[A]

And I want to go to his show to support him. I want to go.

[C]

So I can't start doing the Dougie at his show at the Garden. I'm going to look at you specifically to make them. You want a Jumbotron? I'm gonna look at you like Damaris. Like, yo, you want to be cool with more? That's your business. You're. You're an adult. You guys had your own bond. Cool. But you want to make a moment at the show.

[A]

But why do y' all act like, first of all, you've produced live shows before, right? Peach has. Whatever. You know that in order for somebody to be on the Jumbotron, all it has to say yo, my brother Quavo in the building, somebody pushes a button and get the camera on him. That could be a two second thing. Like.

[C]

No, no, no, no, no, no. Cuevo's also produce shows. Yeah. You know, where to stand, where that camera can get right in your face.

[D]

And not only that. They told you had the conversation before the. The. The. The. The shot goes live.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Like, yo, can we put you on the camera? You could be like, no, I'm not doing that.

[C]

Yeah. 100. Like, like, not 100%. That's how it goes.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You get a suite. There's. Yo. Jay and Beyonce have showed up to a list artist concert, and you never even knew they.

[A]

Well, that's because they're private people. They never want people to know where they are.

[C]

A list, artist shows, and you never knew he was there.

[A]

I understand. I understand what you guys are talking about as far as, like, okay, maybe don't put me on the screen, but I don't see anything wrong with him going and supporting her show. Just because y' all did some messy. Like, it. Like, just because y' all got some messy going on. Whatever. If I look at you like my sister. I looked at you like my sister when y' all was together, that's real. Like, real love is, like, untangible. Like, you can't sit up here and, oh, I can't love you the way I used to because you got some shit going on with homie. Like, then you never really love me from the beginning. Keep loving me the way you love me. If you really with me like that, Keep loving me the way you love me. Even if me and him break off, that's. That's real love to me. But, I mean, everybody look at this shit differently. We can agree to disagree.

[C]

No, we hear what you're saying. We're talking about the moment that was made on a jumbo truck.

[A]

Okay, I can understand not making. But y' all are also saying he shouldn't even went to the show. And I think that that's.

[C]

I think just because.

[D]

Can Quavo go to a Patriots game?

[C]

Well, I mean, he's. Stephan is not in the Patriots.

[D]

I mean, when he was. Is that being messy? If Quavo went to a Patriots game,

[C]

he can't dance with Kraft.

[A]

So you're telling me if he would have went to the Super bowl, that's messy.

[D]

Yo, Damaris is not serious.

[A]

If he would have just went to

[D]

the super bowl, that's not serious.

[C]

You're not the biggest game in the world.

[A]

You telling me that would have been messy.

[D]

If he went to super bowl, there's no way. You serious. Okay. If he went to the super bowl and he has a Stephon jersey on.

[A]

Okay, that's.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

You dragging it.

[D]

All right? So saying he's there for Stephon, he's there for Cardi.

[C]

If he loves his. His sis, and he wants to see his sis be happy, so why would he not support his sister's new man sis's new endeavor? His.

[D]

Her new relationship?

[C]

Love is love. Right, Rev Run.

[A]

I feel like that's dragging it, and that's being purposely messed up.

[C]

That was dragging it. That's what we trying to say.

[D]

It's the same shit.

[A]

Okay?

[C]

That's all we saying.

[A]

We can agree it's dragging.

[C]

We not saying that people can't love each other privately and things get messed up and people have their own relationship.

[D]

If Quavo. If Quavo offset about to meet up to talk their differences out and Quavo show up with a put a Diggs jersey on, that's not crazy.

[A]

That's you. That's fine. That's fine. Just don't ever bring none of y' all girlfriends around me. I'm not getting cool with them because if I can't. If I can't fall in love with them. If I can't fall in love with them. Yeah, true. Because when y' all break up, I can no longer be cool with them or love them or anything like that because y' all had a messy breakup, then don't bring them around me. Because I don't. I don't fake love.

[D]

But you leave it. No, you leaving our elements. You just saying. Yeah, you leaving our elements.

[C]

If you've been friends with my exes before and it's been fine, you didn't dance in Madison Square Garden with them. That's all I'm saying.

[D]

But I would. You might be the ops, dog. I ain't gonna lie. Like, you might got op energy. You might be Oppenheimer B. I ain't gonna lie.

[A]

Oppenheimer is crazy.

[D]

Yeah, you might be Oppenheimer B. I ain't gonna lie.

[A]

Y' all dog a girl out, and now I can't support her endeavors cuz y' all dogged her out and she don't want to with y' all no more. That's crazy.

[C]

With them.

[D]

What if she dogged me out?

[A]

Well, that's different. Because then she did something fucked up to you.

[C]

But love is love. You have to forgive people in love.

[A]

No, not exactly. Like, if she dog Walked. She was like, nah, you was fucked up. Like, I can't be seen, like, fucking with you because you did some fucked up shit, but I don't know. Okay, good to know where y' all stand.

[D]

Yeah, B, that's where I stand. Once I cut them off. You cut them off?

[A]

That's crazy.

[D]

Everybody clean cuts out of here.

[A]

Even after a marriage.

[D]

Yeah, fuck all of that.

[C]

I would. I would say. I would actually say, especially after a

[D]

match, she did some wax.

[C]

If we just dated, whatever.

[D]

Yeah, she did some wax. Shit. Nah. And then, like I said, they not, you know, Quavo. No, no, I'm just saying Quavo and Offset got a little, you know, it's funny energy between us. Weird energy between them two right now. Like, come on. That. That looks. That looks away. I'm not saying Quavo can't support Cardi, but that does look away. That's all I'm saying.

[A]

Okay, that's understandable.

[D]

And shout out to Cardi. You know what I'm saying?

[C]

Cardi hit Nori too, about his. His take a shot, pick a rapper segment, which I love to tell him to stop doing the Cardi versus Nikki thing, which he stopped doing. He was saying, like, it just. It pins them against each other and, like, she doesn't want to be in the same conversation.

[D]

Yes, the world is healing. Cardi and Nikki are going to be cool one day.

[C]

No, no, no, no, no.

[D]

We're not there.

[C]

Just. No, no, Quite the opposite. I don't even want my name. Name next to her.

[D]

Oh, I'm sorry. I thought. I thought. I thought Cardi was saying she's tired of people pitting them against each other. And.

[C]

No, she's tired of that for sure, but not for, like, reasons. Like, she wants to make up with

[D]

Nicki, not because they eventually gonna bury their little Tiffany.

[C]

Not on the hey, we're better together type of.

[D]

Oh, my bad.

[C]

I'm sorry.

[D]

No, I thought that was motorsport. The world was healing.

[C]

Motorsport part two would not happen.

[D]

Damn. I thought the world was healing. All right.

[A]

I don't blame her for that, though. And I think more artists need to call out content creators on the. That they do.

[C]

She. Which I'm not spilling anything that I haven't talked about with my conversations with Cardi. She said the same thing to me. Stop bringing my name up with that girl. Talk about my. Why does her name have to come up with mine? I felt it. I. But with Nori said, I actually understood more what Cardi was saying to me than to Nori. Because the point of that segment is to pin people against each other. Yeah, Like, I understood what Cardi was saying. Like, I'm putting music out. Stop talking about that girl. Which I get. I mean, Cardi's not going to dictate what we talk about, but I understood her. Her perspective on that. I get it with this, though. And I mean this. I mean, it's very respectfully, because I think Cardi is an extremely accomplished artist. And I'm not saying who's better? This and that, please. Barbs, Cards, whatever, all that is. Bardi Yang. I would. Even if I hate that person, I think it's great that my name is next to one of the most accomplished. The most accomplished female rapper of all time.

[D]

Yeah, it's a silver liner in there somewhere. It's like some. It's some.

[C]

Yo, I got. I got to a point. Two albums, Mike. Like, I started from reality tv, before that. Whatever.

[D]

Yeah, got. And now you're putting Cardi saying though. But it's respected.

[C]

I'm looking at it from positive.

[D]

Yeah, respecting it.

[A]

Yeah. But the. The purpose of this, of them using those names in that segment is not for respect.

[C]

And I get the sexist point of it, too. Like, it's woman versus woman. Like, I do Nikki versus a guy. Or like Cardi versus. I get that part. But I also, in some weird world, think it's cool that Cardi's name is next to Nikki's. Like, what Nikki has accomplished in rap history is few and far between. Like, you could argue, not personal preference, just based off accomplishments. Nikki is a top 10 MC of all time for sure. So just. Yeah, you putting my name next to that.

[D]

I'll take it.

[C]

The fuck.

[D]

Yeah, I'll take it. Damn it. It's respecting it.

[C]

Tycoli shit.

[D]

I mean, I get. I get what Cardi's saying. Like, she's tired of that. You know, them pinning them against each other, but at the same time, it is. That is a certain level of respect that the fact that they are pinning you against the arguably, again, top 10 MCs of all time. Like, for sure.

[A]

Well, speaking of Nikki Beef and people who have written diss tracks, did you guys hear Remy Ma's diss track? Well, not diss track, but her freestyle.

[D]

I do.

[A]

Okay. Do you have any thoughts before I go into what I'm gonna go into?

[C]

No, this is your show.

[A]

Okay. So she too, she threw shots at Papoose and Clarissa. Allegedly. Cause we don't know. She didn't say any names. But for Clarissa, she said in competition with herself. I don't know that bitch hoes be doing the most over so so dick wanna be a baddie. But you are bad enough. I just fuck all the messy shit. She dissing her husband, whatever doing the most over. So so dick like. But you married it.

[D]

They go to that they'll beat though. Nobody dick smaller than a nigga that a girl hate. Like nobody dick smaller than a nigga that a girl.

[C]

Once it became.

[D]

Once she hates you, your dick could be big as that tripod right there. Once she hates you, your dick about. About big as that wick on that candle, man. Once she hates you, man, you can back out 16 soft on her.

[C]

16 soft 16 soft.

[D]

16 arrest. 16 as soon as she hates your guts, I think your whack.

[C]

And once it became.

[D]

Keep it up.

[C]

Socially unacceptable to call a man gay after a breakup. Like, nah, he gay. But now you can't do that because it's socially unacceptable to say that now it's Lil Dick.

[D]

Yeah, trash. He trash. He corny. What he we he wear white socks with dress shoes. All this. You was with me when I had them.

[C]

White socks, pants lay right sometimes more comfortable.

[A]

Yeah, but what if it's all true, though? Like, just because I was with you don't mean it wasn't true.

[D]

We not doing that just because I was with you.

[A]

You know what I'm saying?

[D]

Okay, but you can't talk. You can't, like, spite me after that. You can't, like, talk bad about me after that. If we was married for years. Come on. Pap was there to hold the. You know what I mean? Held it down. Black. What happened to black love and all of that. Pap did all. He had that flag high. Remy went and did that bid.

[A]

Sometimes black love is, you know, faking an orgasm to keep the family going.

[C]

What?

[A]

Sometimes it's faking an orgasm.

[C]

You marry so so dick or marry so so. Yeah, if you want to be so so deaf that like, I can't. I can't be like, yo, I don't need.

[D]

I can't be like, yo, I don't

[C]

know what to tell you.

[D]

Like, yeah, I came. Like, that was so so. And I got three kids with you. You got three so so kids. Like how you.

[C]

You say your kids came out of

[D]

some so so like, yo, that was so so like, what you got three kids with her, though. I would look crazy saying that about my ex. Like any man saying, oh, you look absolutely crazy. You can't do that.

[A]

Do you look crazy as a rapper, though? I mean, it's just bars.

[C]

No, it's just. Of course it's just bars. We having fun.

[D]

It ain't just bars.

[C]

Yes.

[D]

I mean, those ain't just bars, fam. Not in this situation. Those ain't just bars.

[C]

Oh, I'm just not thinking that far into their sex life. No, that's why I'm saying I'm not

[D]

thinking about it either. But I'm saying it's not just bars. Wings and it's just bars. No, no, it ain't just bars. So you can't do that.

[A]

You can't dish. You can't diss your ex.

[D]

No, you can diss your ex, but what you dis. Like, how you dissing them is like. Come on. Like, so most. You hoes be doing the most over. So. So dick.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

In Remy's defense, you have to write that bar.

[C]

In Remy's defense, hoes, yeah. I'm not talking about anyone in particular. I'm just. Just that line. Nobody specifically.

[D]

Yes, she's. But given the circumstances, I don't know if Remy should have went with that ball. Cause it's kind of like, come on, man.

[A]

Well, she also said the nervous claiming they wrote those hits when they whole career, they ain't never ghost wrote shit. Not for me or anybody else. You always act like you help the nigga go help yourself.

[D]

It always turned into that. We just seen y' all on the site for going kissing Styles back and forth. Who wrote that? Who wrote that?

[C]

You may kiss the bride.

[D]

Yeah, like, y' all was going back and forth on the BET Cipher, Black Love.

[A]

But she's saying that.

[C]

And I just saw Pat on Vlad saying that he ghost wrote a lot of hits. He didn't say the hits, but.

[D]

Yeah, but that don't mean he ghost wrote anything. Could say our ghost wrote.

[C]

In Vlad's defense, he was like, all right, well, can you tell me the hits that you Ghost? Well, not. I mean, I can as a contract.

[A]

And I wouldn't be a ghost. I would be like, yeah, I wouldn't be ghost.

[D]

Yeah, I'd be a real.

[A]

Yeah, but he said 90 of the rhymes that came out of his wife mouth, he wrote before. So I think that was her response to that.

[D]

All right. I. I don't know. I can't speak to 95%, but.

[C]

Oh, that's because even before they met, Remy had, like, before. Like, yeah.

[D]

Raps.

[C]

I will say, like I publicly said. When she came out, I said, that sounds like a pap flow. I'm not saying he wrote, wrote It.

[D]

It.

[C]

If you pitched it to Pap's voice,

[D]

it just put it like this.

[C]

If a sounded.

[D]

If a reference track, hit the time out tomorrow with Pap, it wouldn't surprise

[C]

me, Wouldn't shock me at all.

[A]

But, see, I don't think that's fair because I feel like, you know, we.

[C]

I think if you married, you allowed to do that. I think ghostwriters are allowed if. You see.

[D]

But all right, when you marry, common

[C]

law marriage, you allowed.

[D]

Yes.

[C]

That's okay to me.

[D]

When we divorce, you ain't allowed to talk like that at the same breath. When we married. Yeah, I could write for my wife. Yeah, go ahead. Come on, let me help you with these balls.

[A]

Or I could write for my husband. Let's not act like men are the only one who bars either which way

[D]

you want to cut it, right? But once we divorce, you can't do that. Like, they can't turn into you. You ain't never ghost rope shit. Like, come on, don't do that. That's what I'm saying. That'd just be like the messy shit in the breakup where they start airing shit out. It's like.

[C]

And I don't want to be messy here because Remy could beat me up. So I just want to make that clear. These are the routes you have to take when you can't say, I'll beat the bitch up. Yeah. Cause in this, you gotta get creative.

[D]

Yes, that part, too. Like, yeah, you don't want to get caught in the dark alley with Clarissa. Don't nobody want to get caught in the dark alley.

[C]

I want to make it very clear. Everyone in this situation could beat me up. Everyone in this situation. We're talking about a diss record. It's all rap. But, yeah, you got to get creative when you can't get. Because Remy, every time, she'd be like, yo, I'll shoot you. He was like, yo, we agree. Yeah, I'll beat you up. He's like, yeah, yeah, that. That checks.

[A]

Y' all ever started talking like a girl? Because what I was gonna say before

[C]

y' all interrupted, I was gonna know I was. No start there.

[A]

Y' all gonna let me talk.

[D]

Okay, I'm sorry.

[A]

What I'm saying is, when you said shether sounds like Pap could have wrote it, right? Okay, possible. But when you're married to somebody, you kind of start, like, talking. Like, you guys start to share lingo, and it don't just be happening, like, where girls just be taking y' all lingo. I've had take My lingo too. And I'm sure y' all have taken women's lingo before.

[C]

Okay, but there's no way I didn't hear one pat pocket on all the way up.

[A]

Okay, just say, have y' all ever started talking like the women y' all were dating? Never. Never stole no lingo. No. Cool. Funny.

[D]

Not like. Not like. Like, I talk like when I'm with her, but like, when I'm away from her. I ain't talking like her. Like, I ain't stealing her bars. I ain't doing that. But when we hanging out, yeah, I might like, with her and start talking like her, but like, if I'm with the homies and I was talking like my girl, like, ah, you gay. You gay now. You gay.

[A]

Well, not a lot of shit. Don't always be like, it doesn't sound like you're talking like a girl, but it might be something that maybe came from where she's from. Like, let's say she from Houston. This might be some Houston slang. You might slip up. She say it so much, you might catch yourself saying it like stuff.

[C]

Yeah, but more like a sarcastic, fun way.

[D]

If me and Rory having a beer, I'm not talking like my girl. Like, I'm not doing that. I don't care where she's from. Like, I'm not doing that with my girl. Yeah, we hanging out. I'mma fuck west if she's from. She had a little twang. She had a little southern accent. Yeah, Rory ain't gonna hear that though. Like, that's not gonna happen. No, that's not happening. That's never happened.

[C]

That would be hilarious.

[D]

That's nasty. I'm not doing that.

[A]

He don't know where you got it from though.

[D]

He gonna know.

[C]

Well, like in my last relationship, she watched a lot of TikTok, so there was a lot of like, phrases and stuff that I didn't know about. But I would like jokingly say those things with her. I'd even jokingly say them on the podcast sometimes. I got them from her, but they're not like, they didn't adopt into my everyday stuff.

[D]

Yeah, you didn't live with them in like your regular day to day life?

[C]

This is my shit now.

[D]

Yeah, like I'm jacking her slang. Like.

[C]

No, that's more of a woman thing where they start dressing like you. Talking like you. That. Yeah, that's usually the other way around.

[A]

Nobody want dress like you.

[C]

I didn't say me.

[A]

Oh, I didn't.

[C]

My bad.

[A]

I'm sorry. I'M teasing you.

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Same.

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No, we have fun when we go see like the Knicks games and stuff together, right? I cheer for the Knicks when they're doing good. When they're doing bad, I'm silent.

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But we don't even like those type, like, we don't like those type of fans. You don't like the Knicks because they're all married and like faithful.

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Yeah, I know. They don't really come outside. They don't be at the club, stole

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But Coco Jones husband, he's in it, right?

[D]

Yes.

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Donovan Cavs. Donovan Mitchell. Okay, I'm voting for him. Donovan Mitchell because if I married like Coco, I would be mad motivated to like Go all the way.

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That's good, right?

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I mean, listen, for Coco, anything's possible.

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Very true.

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It's the flip side, too, d'. Amaris. He could be ready to just get back home to his wife and lose in the first round.

[A]

He might be, Klay.

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Well, yeah, but, I mean, they're not in it, like. So he's not Clay. He's definitely not.

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Clay is going to be at the. The Broadway play the track.

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Okay.

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No, usually I bet with Hard Rock and I actually use my brain, but to me, this is. This is the last year for us as Knicks fans. If it doesn't happen now, you're done. I'm never done.

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Okay.

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I've been through up and down.

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The window is closing, though.

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It's got to be.

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Yeah, the window is closing.

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Yeah, it's. It's Knicks at plus 500.

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Okay.

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I have the Knicks separate bet. Knicks plus 500 to get into the finals. And then I have the spurs at +325. I have Spurs, Knicks, separate bets. That's who I have in the finals this year. Betting with my heart.

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Spurs was my dark horse. Is that a. I just think that.

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No, that's a quadruple entendre. Don't even ask him how.

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I just. I just. I just think that not having Popovich on the sidelines is going to show up in the playoffs.

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Nah, but you. Pop is.

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He's. He's.

[D]

His DNA is there. No, his DNA is still in the building. Don't get it.

[C]

He's in the group chat.

[D]

Yeah. No, get it twisted. I like Mitch Johnson. I like. I like Mitch Johnson the coach. I do, too, but I just. I don't know, man. Just to the finals, though, without Pop. I don't know. That's a. That's a tough one. They got the talent, though. I like. I like Stefan Castle. I like. Obviously, Wimby.

[C]

I think this is. This is the. The playoffs that the Frenchman shows that he's different. Different.

[D]

Oh, no, he's.

[C]

This is the one. No, I think we're. Of course he's different.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But I think he's showing up. We're gonna look at him.

[D]

They got a good shot. Darren Fox. They got it. They got a good shot. But I like. I like okc still though.

[C]

Okay. Okc is plus 110.

[D]

I like okc.

[C]

Look at you guys picking all the favorites.

[D]

Well, I mean. Yeah, that's when you.

[C]

At least my heart is a risk taker.

[D]

Oh, man. When you putting that money down? I'm going with. I'm going with the favorite.

[C]

More rewards.

[D]

That's true.

[C]

I put 100 now to get 500.

[D]

I'm gonna go with OKC coming out of the west.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

And then I'm gonna go with the Pistons, not at Kate.

[C]

Okay. All right. Finally some balls. All right. I like it.

[D]

Now the Cade is back. Kate is back.

[C]

Pistons at a plus 475.

[D]

I'll take it. I'll take the Pistons Going to the finals out of the east.

[A]

Okay. I'll take the Timberwolves.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

Why not? We were picking dark horses.

[D]

Is it because Julius and Ant are dark skinned guys? Is you're taking the dark horses or no? Okay.

[C]

I didn't even look up what the Timberwolves were for the finals. Can somebody help me so we can. We can know the bet that Damaris is about to make +4,000. That's not true, by the way.

[A]

Well, yeah, it is.

[C]

It's plus 4,000.

[A]

Nah, yo, I'll be right all the time.

[D]

No, you're not right. I don't think you're right. I don't think that's a good thing. Yeah, I don't think you want to

[C]

wait a hundred dollars. I and the Timberwolves go there. I could win 4,000. No, I might take. I might put that on it, y'.

[A]

All. Not really.

[C]

Just for fun, I might put that hundred down.

[A]

I'm not really risk takers.

[D]

So how about you just give me the hundred? Like just give me 100.

[C]

And as a risk taker, he doesn't even know what a condom is.

[D]

Yeah, I'm not. Okay. I'm not mad at that baby, D. You are, but no, I'm not mad at it. I'm not mad at it. Timberwolves coming out of the west for you. The Cavs coming out of the east for you. Yeah, all right, well, we have to wait and see. I just want to see Damaris's face in about eight days, that's all. Just look at her. Face and see how she's feeling.

[A]

I'm gonna ask to borrow the 100 from you. Like, if I lose it.

[D]

I figured that.

[C]

Ask Coco.

[D]

Yeah,

[C]

don't ask us. Anyways, Speedy was on mall time. You petty explain.

[D]

Somebody he.

[C]

He borrowed your voice. She was using everyone. You made it. You made it a hot line. He made it a hot song. You ain't see Speedy at Coachella, man. Speedy was minding his business. Fanfare was crazy that he was there. This woman came up, was like, speedy, oh my God, it's you. She was with her man. Can I please get a picture? And Speedy, being the gentleman that he is. I like Speedy a lot. Of course, you could have a photo.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

And a man said, who the is Speedy? And then they departed. And Speedy got on his. His IG and told us that story and told the gentleman, if you don't know who I am, your girl look good, so you better relax. Meaning I'll your girlfriend.

[D]

How's that my timing?

[A]

Well, they did say. Well, you did say that you, you know, you sent dinner to a young lady or paid for dinner or whatever, like, you know, for my friend.

[D]

I knew her. Speedy didn't know that.

[C]

But. But to the.

[A]

She didn't know that girl.

[C]

But to the gentleman at that time, that table, that could be perceived as. Oh, he's saying he could. The girl I'm with.

[D]

Yeah. I don't still. I don't see the correlation.

[A]

It's petty. You admitted that it was petty when you did it. Even if why you did it was a different reason than what Speedy said petty to her.

[D]

But I wasn't. The gentleman wasn't on my. My radar. The gentleman is on Speedy's radar. Like he's concerned about the gentleman. He's concerned about what the gentleman said. I don't even.

[C]

Speedy's defense. He did say who the island Speedy. And granted, that's fine to say.

[D]

It doesn't so Speedy.

[C]

Everyone knows who everyone is.

[D]

Speedy then in turn made a video addressing the gentleman. I never addressed the gentleman in my situation. I still don't know who that was. Like, I was with my home girl

[C]

trying to make him out the paint quick.

[D]

Nah, he got himself out the paint. He didn't even know a paid for the meal.

[A]

Wait, wait, hold on.

[C]

We going to.

[A]

In a second. But how do you. How did.

[C]

He thought it was on the house.

[D]

But that's. See, that's the. See y' all seen the whole eclipsed up version of what I said clipped

[C]

up while I was sitting there.

[A]

We Were talking to you.

[D]

I said that during. When we spoke about it, I said, you didn't even realize that somebody paid for the check. She was saying that the date was horrible. He didn't even know that. He thought that she. He thought she paid for the cause. They just got up and left. Like, he was just oblivious. Like, the date was horrible for her. That's why it wasn't me hating or doing like that. Like, that's what I was trying to fuck up her date. Like, on some friends shit, though. Like, who paying for you? Who paying for this? Like, because I told her, don't take none of your dudes to the spots I'll be putting you on to. But again, this is not a girl I was interested in. This is my friend. But people missed all of that in that video.

[C]

So, you know, Speedy wasn't interested. He was just saying it could happen.

[D]

But he's addressing the guy, which is crazy. He made a video for the guy that doesn't know who he is.

[C]

He knows now. Well, that's what he was saying. Based off maybe some of her body language, it appeared like maybe she was in the Speedy.

[D]

Because she asked for a picture. Because that's what he's saying. Your girl want a picture with me. That mean I could. Her.

[C]

Speedy is.

[A]

Yo, that's not.

[D]

That's what Speedy's saying, man. She a fan. She want a picture. She a fan. She a fan. She a fan. She a fan.

[C]

I'm not fan.

[D]

She a fan.

[C]

I'm not letting you do.

[D]

She a fan.

[C]

I'm not letting you do that.

[D]

Your girl asked to take a picture with somebody cool.

[C]

That's mine.

[D]

That'd be cool.

[C]

I'm telling you, I am far less famous than Speedy. I'm sure women want Speedy more than they want me, but I have taken photos with women where I can tell by the body language if they just want a photo or if they want to fuck. There's a difference in photos that I've taken where I can feel the difference.

[D]

It depends. It depends on how there is a

[C]

intangible and tangible difference that I can tell when a girl is just a listener to this podcast and is not interested in me. Me whatsoever. But, yeah, let's take a photo.

[D]

Yeah, but you just.

[C]

And then I took a photo with a girl.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, she wants to book.

[D]

Yeah, but you. You don't even know when women like you. According to you, you're on record saying that.

[C]

Oh, no, that's true. I mean, but when they're groping me, it's a little different.

[D]

Yeah, but that's. I said that's when they landed on Heavy, when they making it obvious sometimes.

[C]

And I'm saying we don't know the whole scenario. She could have been laying it on Heavy. That's why he said, who the is Speedy? Because he saw his girl Heavy.

[D]

Speedy made a video saying the girl wanted, like, I could basically, like, yo, your girl, she looked good. So.

[A]

Yeah, he didn't say. He didn't say your girl on me. He said she looked good.

[D]

Yeah. So she looked good. So whether.

[C]

What was he alluding to, though, that

[D]

I could hit that.

[C]

Thank you.

[D]

Yeah, I wasn't trying to hit in my scenario.

[C]

Oh, no, I'm past that. I'm not even talking about that. I'm saying that there are scenarios when a girl asks to take a photo with you. You can feel the difference for sure. And I'm saying maybe there's a world where Speedy made that, but I'm sure there's been plenty of people that have said, who the fuck is Speedy? Before in his life. I'm saying I think he made that video because he knew for sure what type of time that girl was on.

[D]

Or he just thought she looked good and he's on some type of time.

[A]

Yeah, maybe his. I think it was more of an ego thing. I think the who the fuck is Speedy? To my face is a ego thing. And I think that's where Speedy was speaking from. Was speaking from ego. Do you do shit like that out of ego, though? Like, when somebody insults you, it's like, nigga, I'll take your bitch. Like, do you get. Excuse my language, but do you get like, that?

[D]

Me?

[C]

No, that was your ego speaking. That's what that was.

[D]

I've never. I've never put my camera to my face and say, yo, dog, I'll take your bitch.

[A]

Well, not your. Not your camera, but. And, you know, obviously you wouldn't do that, but I'm saying, like, just said it to your homeboy, like, I'll take that, nigga. Like, nah, never.

[D]

That ain't my speed.

[A]

What's your petty speed? Outside of what you did, what's your petty speed? You just let shit go.

[D]

No, I mean, if I'd be like. I would have just been like, oh, you don't know who I am, but your girl does. Obviously, that's as far as it would have went. I would have been like, yo, see, she looked good. So. So. So I wouldn't have did all that.

[C]

Too much sauce on what?

[D]

I mean, but that's basically what he did. Like, basically like, yo, homie, relax. Cause yeah, that's what that means. Like, all right.

[C]

No, I know what it meant. I know what he was saying.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

So that he's saying, I could. Your girl.

[D]

Yeah. So my ego wouldn't have did. I would have just been like, you know, if he's like, it's especially my favorite. Who the fuck is. I'm like, she knows your girl. The actual girl. She know who I am. And that would have been the end of that.

[A]

It would have been the end because we'd have had to tussle. You say some shit like that.

[D]

Your girl just asked me for a picture. Obviously, your lady knows who I am. Ask her who I am. I'm not about to sit here and stand here and tell you who I am. Like, who the fuck is Speedy? Ask your girl.

[A]

But when you say it like that, it's some sauce. Like, you can't say it.

[D]

Oh, for sure. Cause he said, who the fuck is this with some sauce? So now we having a sauce off. Everybody gets sauce. Unlimited sauce. Ranch Caesar dressing, vinaigrette. What you want? We get all of that? Yeah. Ask your lady who Mal is.

[C]

We just had chick fil a now, huh?

[D]

Ask who I am.

[A]

If I was her, I'd have been so sad. Because now, like, now I gotta tell you, like, who he is. Like, don't. If Mal say it like that, I gotta look and be like, well, he's. I can't do that. You just made my life hard.

[D]

But knowing me, I would've made it funny. I'd be like, I'm just. I just. I'm just a podcaster, bro. I just give my opinion on the culture. That's all I do. Your relationship is safe. I don't want your girl.

[A]

Don't fret.

[D]

Don't fret. Your relationship is intact.

[C]

I'm not gonna ask Damaris because it's weird. If a man leaves his girl to go take a photo, I'm gonna get into that territory.

[A]

They do it, though.

[C]

There's a word for it I'm not gonna use. Your girl can't take a photo with somebody that she's, like, a fan of.

[A]

No, not with me.

[C]

I don't care. If you all over them, then there's a difference. But if you want a photo with somebody, you're a fan. I don't care. What's weird about that?

[A]

If we walk in side by side, I'm not gonna go up to a man I'm a fan of and Ask for a photo.

[D]

Thank you, Baby D. If we walk

[A]

in side by side now, if he is somewhere else, then, yeah, I'll get it. I'll get my little photo, whatever. But I feel like that's just embarrassing to the man, and I wouldn't do that. That.

[D]

Yeah, homie reacted the way he was supposed to. Who the is Speedy?

[A]

I feel like that was lame. You address her later on. You don't say, who the is Speedy, because you listen.

[C]

You just look insecure when you do.

[D]

Exactly.

[C]

You look nuts.

[A]

Yeah, you look.

[D]

Wait, wait, hold on. All right, hold it back up. Speedy was standing right there when he said that or did do. He just, like. Was walking away and heard the girl is. Or the dude, like, ask, like, who the is Speedy?

[C]

It's unclear. It was a Coachella, but I think they were like, sit down. Interview.

[A]

He said it purposely loud enough so that's.

[D]

And who took the picture? Y' all not asking the right question.

[A]

No, if he. If you hand your man the phone,

[D]

you're not asking the right question.

[A]

Nah. Take this photo. Nah, that's crazy.

[D]

Who took the picture?

[C]

That's crazy. Y'.

[A]

All.

[C]

Y' all live in the bubble that we live in. Damaris. If you and I never podcasted, never did anything in music, and you and I were dating and we were out at a concert and we ran into Fab, you would not say, yo, babe, can you take a photo of me and Fab?

[A]

Okay, you might. You might.

[C]

Like, y' all are so warped in the world that we live in. That. That is so normal and fine. And, like, I'm sure I would be happy to take that photo of you and Fab. Like, I. I think we just live in a very different world than everybody else, which I think is worse, but I'm not judging. I think those people live in a way better world than we do.

[A]

But to be fair, I think that that is a little different, because if I am a big enough fan of a person for you to be happy to take a photo of me and that person, you don't have to ask, who the fuck is Speedy? You would know. And also, Speedy is not.

[C]

Hold on. Nobody knows everything that that girl listens to.

[A]

And Speedy is not a rapper. He doesn't make music.

[C]

I was. I was. I only use Fab as an example, because I know you love Fab as

[A]

a rapper, but that. But I'm saying that makes sense, right?

[C]

Because maybe. Maybe Speedy's her Fab. I couldn't get the sp.

[A]

But that's what I'm saying you not a.

[C]

But I'm telling you now, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off. But a lot of the younger people now, content creators are their rappers the way our rappers are. It's the content creators.

[A]

And that's where I'm saying where the issue lies. Because you're not a fan of music. Something tangible. You're not a fan of music. You're not a fan of his work. You are a fan of this nigga's jokes. You are a fan of this nigga's.

[C]

He's a fan of.

[A]

Okay, that's fine. He is funny. So you are a fan of. You want me to take a picture of you and the nigga that be

[C]

making you laugh, Fabby Rat, about how good he. I'm fine taking a. Take a photo with them.

[A]

That's fine. I think. I think. I think that that's different. I think that that's completely.

[C]

No, I think y' all are just in the bubble. The same bubble I'm in. That's not how the rest of the world works. At Coachella, if you go with your girl or your significant other, whatever, and you see somebody that you're a fan of, I think it's totally normal to be like, hey, can I get a photo? And your man and your girl takes the photo and you go about your day.

[A]

What if you know that that's her type?

[C]

Well, I mean, go, come on, we gotta get some food.

[A]

Light skinned skinny, you know that's her type. And she like, oh, can you take a picture?

[C]

Listen, yo, yo, Wale's on in five minutes. Let's go.

[D]

Whatever. What's the other Ginger? What's the. The R B? The singers. The singer's name?

[C]

Ed Sheeran or Teddy Swim, you and

[D]

your girl out with. See, I don't look like Ed Sheeran. Teddy Swims or Ed Sheeran.

[C]

I don't look like.

[D]

She started going crazy.

[C]

This is racist.

[D]

She start going crazy like, yo, can

[C]

I take a. I think Teddy Swims has an incredible voice, and I think Ed Sharon makes great music.

[D]

Yeah, that's what's up.

[C]

They're both very talented people. I'm fine with people getting excited about talent. If you excited about somebody that has zero goddamn talent and you just attracted to them and you want a photo. Now we're having a different conversation. Speedy is talented. Ed Sheeran is. I don't look like this.

[A]

Yo, Ryan pulling up the picture of Ed Sheeran is frying me. Listen, I get what Maul is saying. I Wouldn't do it. Me personally, I think it's important to protect your man's ego, even if it's stupid. And ego usually is stupid. I'm not gonna ask for a picture of with a content creator, not even because of who I am, but because it's like, yeah, who the fuck is this nigga? This random nigga you wanna take a picture with? Now we run into fucking J. Cole, you know, I'm getting a picture, bro, you know, and you holding the phone, and I need multiple angles. I need multiple angles. Get down, like, hitch it. Do the little squat. Get the angle of us looking up. We gonna change positions. Like, I need all of that shit.

[C]

Okay, well, now.

[A]

Oh, who Cole, if I run it, if I run in the cold, and I need this picture. You better take this picture. You want to fight about it later? We can fight about it later, but you gonna take this picture.

[D]

But you said squat down.

[A]

Like, you know how when girls hit the squat and they get the angle, like, looking up?

[D]

Oh, you saying he's.

[C]

You want to hit the Hype Williams angle? Like we in Tyler Times Square.

[A]

Yeah, like multiple. I need multiple.

[D]

You wanted to put the fish out lens on it. Yeah, exactly.

[C]

Yeah. You and Cole will put a shiny suit on. Like, yeah.

[A]

You're not about to just take no. Here, here, here at damn ass photo. And now, like, my eye closed and one now I need multiple fucking shots. Multiple different angles. Like, nah. And you gonna have to deal with it as a man, but I feel like anybody who meets me would already know that because they know who I'm a fan of. If you gotta say, who the fuck is Speedy?

[D]

It's okay for your girl to be a fan of somebody, but it's just who, though?

[A]

Like, I, I. Chris Brown P Said, what if it's Chris Brown style?

[C]

I have seen couples come to our shows where the girl wants to take a photo with mall and she just wants to take a photo with Mo. Like, not. Not like.

[A]

But he's at the show. He knows.

[C]

He don't know the podcast. Like, there's plenty of couples that come to our shows where only one person in the couple listens to the show. And most of them, like, I mean, I hear the shit in the background. Like, I know it exists.

[A]

You know who he is?

[C]

Well, now they know because they got tickets to the show. Speedy did a live show. That girl may buy tickets and bring her, man. And he'll be have a better understanding

[D]

of Speedy is yo did not read something that the girl that kissed Chris Brown that was married. They, like, her husband broke up and they got back together recently.

[C]

I didn't know what was true and what wasn't true in that, like, because I had read that lies so much about everything.

[D]

That's a strong man. My girl kissed Chris Brown on stage. We. We are done.

[C]

We never know these things. No, I. I read a bunch of stuff about that as well. Like a quote from her. Like, it was just a harmless kiss. And then they showed, like, the tongue and down. I don't know if that girl ever said that. So.

[A]

Okay, wait for the. Usher and Chris Brown. Are they doing the meet and greets together?

[D]

They're gonna run. They're gonna run train. Mm. Oh, she gonna feed you cherries. Chris gonna hump.

[C]

You gonna be on Chris's shoulders like this.

[D]

Chris gonna hump them cherry.

[A]

Now, how much the meet and greet tickets worth?

[C]

Usher and Chris? Because Chris was charging what, like, 1500?

[A]

I think it was a thousand.

[C]

A thousand?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

5K.

[A]

You dragging it.

[C]

I think, like, ushering Chris Brown together for a meet and greet is 5K.

[A]

I think like, 2, probably 2.

[C]

2.

[D]

You got usher and Chris Brown fucked up them together.

[C]

N. You don't just double the 1k them.

[D]

I like the girl math.

[A]

You did.

[D]

But no, that ain't. That's not five. That's not good business.

[C]

First of all, I don't think Usher's doing meet and greets to begin with,

[A]

but yeah, probably not.

[C]

But no, it's 5k minimum to meet Usher and Chris Brown and take photos without question. If it's 2K. Like, no homo, you there to meet Chris Brown and Usher together. It'd be amazing.

[D]

I don't know.

[A]

You gonna pose in between. Like, you gonna have one on one side and one another. Like when you take the photo.

[C]

Like when my dad and stepdad comes to my game.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

That's what you're gonna do.

[D]

Yeah. I don't. I don't know if we're gonna keep this, but it's just.

[C]

No, we keeping it now.

[D]

It's just funny how women don't give a about nothing.

[C]

I agree.

[D]

I'm mad we kept that.

[A]

No, we got. It needs to stay cut out. It needs to stay cut out. Thank you so much.

[D]

I'm just saying women are crazy. That's all I'm saying. All right, go ahead.

[A]

Anyway. Go ahead.

[C]

Yeah. Y' all judge. If it's 2k, y' all would judge me.

[D]

We judge you for what?

[A]

To go to the. The meet and greet. Yes, I would.

[D]

If you pay $2,000 to meet two

[C]

men who I. I've met both of them before.

[D]

I would be like, you are such a.

[C]

More beeps. Do we have voicemail so we can get out of this segment? So Peach has less editing?

[D]

Yeah, you got mail. What's up? Y. It's Brandon from Jersey. Been a longtime fan of the Puff for a long time since. Since before the breakup. Appreciate that. Question. Of all your celebrity kills, all the celebrities you've popped, who's the most fire. And without saying names, you know, give an example of how it went down and we'll add up to that point just, you know, the setting of how everything happened. Peace. Celebrity kills.

[C]

So yo, name the celebrities you fuck, but don't say their names. Just say how you fucked them.

[D]

That's wild.

[C]

How do you even. What's a celebrity?

[D]

What celebrity?

[A]

That's a. That's a question.

[D]

What is a celebrity? It's a real question.

[C]

So.

[D]

Yes. No, I've never had sex with a celebrity.

[A]

Anybody could be considered us. You guys are considered. What is a celebrity now?

[D]

Who. I ain't no celebrity.

[A]

But people would consider you celebrity. People would consider you celebrities. We know y' all ain't celebrities, but people.

[D]

Celebrity is a famous or widely rapid recognized person, often within entertainment, sports. Oh, okay.

[C]

Well, yeah, Z list.

[D]

I mean, listen.

[A]

Negative. I mean, negative four list. Sure.

[D]

But now I know. Then, yes, I've had sex with a celebrity or two.

[A]

Or two.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Okay, tell us how you did it.

[D]

But I put her leg back this way right

[C]

in. My bad. I'm just. I don't know how to answer that question of, like, don't say names, but say. Because I would never do that.

[A]

How you bagged. Like, was. Was she. Was her celebrity higher than yours or lower than yours at the time?

[D]

Oh, higher.

[C]

Higher. Higher. For sure.

[D]

Sure. Yeah.

[C]

So, like, this feels weird and it is weird, and I don't. I don't. This is making my skin crawl. I don't like this.

[D]

No, this is how. This is how Nori and Offset, though.

[C]

See, listen, I said I wouldn't. That's not my. This. I don't like this.

[D]

It was so. So.

[C]

Nah, that was fire.

[A]

They said. Nah, that was fire.

[D]

It was fire.

[A]

What people expect. And I don't. Because we're not naming names. Like, we're just playing around with. Hypothetically, 17 years ago, would people. Does she look like it's fire? Like, would the world. Is she one of those people where the world expects it to be fire?

[D]

Absolutely.

[C]

Well, which one?

[D]

Absolutely.

[A]

Please.

[C]

Well, which one Everyone knows the jokes.

[D]

Well, which one.

[C]

Which one you talking?

[D]

Which one? Like, my. My list.

[C]

You talk about my. Like, last weekend or what?

[A]

Yeah, that one.

[D]

My kill list is crazy.

[A]

Look at what y' all listeners want to hear, bro.

[D]

Get my kill list, bro. Come on, man. Hell yeah.

[C]

No, when I had. I had a friend, which I think I've said this before in the podcast.

[D]

I know exactly who you talking about.

[C]

That had every name in his nose. I said, you're a serial killer.

[D]

Thing was crazy, yo.

[C]

Putting every girl you've had sex with in your phone is nuts.

[D]

In the notes. In the notes section.

[C]

And not for, like, doctor purposes.

[D]

Like, like you just keeping tally. It's a tally you never want to forget.

[A]

Never Forget.

[D]

Never forget. 9, 11.

[A]

I feel like y' all forget a lot of people that y' all sleep with as men. Like, when you. When you over 100 people, you definitely forget.

[D]

Oh, I've definitely forgot. Like, when I was in my 20s, I can't remember every girl I slept with in my 20s. Hell, no.

[A]

That's why he write it down like a loser.

[D]

I ain't doing that. It's good that I forgot some of them, though. Some of them wasn't so memorable.

[C]

Nah, you're. You're Endless Summer. What's that? Surfing movie Endless. Your endless summer of 50. You should have wrote out all those names.

[D]

Yeah, that was crazy. I was going crazy that year. What was I doing?

[C]

You ever seen the movie Knock Around Guys with Vin Diesel? And he talks about, on your road to 50, you learn a lot of things. He saw about fights, but, yeah, you got to recreate that. On your road.

[D]

He's talking about fights. Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

On your road to 50, you learn a lot about yourself.

[D]

I learned a lot. I definitely learned a lot about myself.

[C]

He found out he was a legitimate tough guy. You found out you were a legitimate.

[D]

Yeah, I was a legitimate Jezebel, for sure.

[C]

It's not the celebrity thing. What's been more awkward is sleeping with people that they tell you after that they're notable. And you didn't know, Like, I didn't know that you were famous. Oh, that's because there's so much niche. Like, I wouldn't expect everyone to know who I am or this pod like this. We were on our own separate worlds. And, like, you end up in areas where. In la and, like, you find out after, like, oh, I didn't know you were like, oh, I didn't know you did that.

[A]

You're huge in, like, the K pop world.

[D]

Like, yeah, I had no idea.

[C]

And she's like, well, that's why I liked you. Because you didn't bring it up. It's like, I didn't even know. That's why I wasn't playing Koi. I don't know who you are. No, I actually like you for you.

[D]

Like, I'm not playing coy. I have no idea. What do you want? Don't care.

[C]

And now I. Now I don't want to mess with you.

[D]

Yeah. Yeah. So, Brandon. I can't answer that, but, yeah, it's messy, Brandon.

[A]

You being messy.

[D]

Being messy, Brandon. Messy, Brandon.

[C]

Well, no, it was for the whole crew. I felt like it wasn't just. That was for the dog. Right?

[A]

I ain't never no celebrity. Okay. All right, so bring it back in. I've never. The celebrity. All of the celebrities that I know, I have met through you guys. So they would be colleagues, and that would be unprofessional.

[C]

Fair.

[D]

You dropped the ball with Dempson that night. You had it. You was right there. You was acting, though.

[A]

He's with the love of his life.

[D]

You was at the roof because of. You could have been with Baby D. It could have been Baby D. And D. It could have been D and D. Demaris and Dimson. Look, that was a whole brand. You see? Come on.

[C]

And she. She caught. She caught Bow Wow at a vulnerable time. Baby mother beef. He had $100 million in his.

[D]

Baby had Covid. She had Covid. She was out the game that day, though.

[A]

She was out the game, yo, thinking that I would be in J. In JD's house, like, n. Bow, what's up?

[D]

Cross the floor.

[A]

What you doing after this? That would be insane. That would be so embarrassing to y'.

[D]

All.

[A]

That's the number one thing. I would never do that. That would be so embarrassing to y'. All. No, no.

[D]

If you gave Bow Wow some buns, that wouldn't be embarrassing to me. It's Bow Wow.

[C]

That's her private life. If she said while we were, like, wrapping up shooting, what you. What you about to do, you're fired.

[A]

Exactly like what you are.

[C]

100%.

[D]

No, but. Nah, but even. But you can't see I'm not.

[C]

Because if a man did that with a girl.

[D]

You can't do that.

[C]

I'm just saying.

[D]

Nah, I would let Baby D get her shit off.

[A]

Unfortunately, there are double standards, and I am a woman that works for y', all, so I do have to keep my legs together when it comes to certain shit. And also, I want to be Respected by. I was new to this, especially at that time. I want to be respected by my peers or you guys peers or whatever.

[C]

Well, I didn't think you were going to try to fuck Bow Wow there.

[A]

No, I'm just. I'm just saying a lot of girls that. Some women. I want to say a lot of girls, some women might take that advantage when they meet people through y'. All. They might have done that. I would never do that. Even if it was somebody that I did want, I would never do that.

[C]

No, we saw what we saw in person at highlight room.

[D]

You think it's any different if we would have looked on our phones and seen you was in Atlanta three days later after we left, and I'd have been like, oh, no, that was.

[C]

Nah, she quarantined.

[D]

Nah, that was respectful of her to, like, just wait till he left to be. To be at brunch with Bow.

[A]

Brunch with Bow?

[D]

Yeah. Either way, I'm like, yo, Brass, what you doing with Bow? We rapped two days ago. Why you still down there?

[A]

Yeah. Nah, that does make y' all look crazy.

[D]

Nah, it's all good, man. It is what it is. I don't give a fuck.

[C]

Bow gave her the vid and brought it to us.

[D]

No, I think. I think you gave everybody the vid.

[C]

We've debunked this already.

[D]

It was you.

[C]

I went to Russ's crib. Russ and his mans did not get Covid. So how could I be be patient zero out of our.

[D]

So was baby D. She was patient

[C]

zero because I hit Russ and I hit his man. As I said, I have covered right now.

[D]

Me and baby D, we landed together. We landed together.

[A]

We landed together, looked at Kia's close friends and she.

[C]

Kia had Covid. Yes, but I didn't have it. I had the self home. I did the whole thing.

[D]

Oh, that isn't. That's like scratch off lottery.

[C]

Sometimes you win your money. Sometimes you get $5.

[D]

They used to do with mangoes. Mangoes had Covid. That was a sham. Oh, man. All right, well, we've come to the end of the road.

[A]

You're so silly.

[D]

We'll talk to y' all soon. Be safe, be blessed. I'm that nigga. He's just ginger.

[C]

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