Episode 485 | Blowhole

Summary

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New Rory & MAL – Episode 485 | "Blowhole"

April 24, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this classic New Rory & Mal episode, Rory, Mal, and Damaris kick off the weekend with laughs, wild hypotheticals, music debates, and deep dives into pop culture’s latest news—including the hottest rapper conversations, streaming era dilemmas, and even Scientology pranks. The episode is a whirlwind of playful banter, pointed music commentary, and reflections on relationships and family, all delivered with the crew’s signature irreverence and chemistry.

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Key Topics & Discussions

1. Movie Outings & The Cinema Experience

• Reviving the Movie Theater Experience
  • Discussion about current movies (Project Hail Mary, Michael Jackson biopic) and how people are returning to theaters post-pandemic.
  • Damaris's go-to is AMC Lincoln Square for the IMAX/stadium experience. Rory flags the trend of luxury theaters with full meals, debating whether the movie night as an event is making a comeback.
    • [05:25] Rory: “I do want to go to one of those fancy ones where you can order pasta at your seat. Still never done that.”
  • The rise of event films (Marvel, Devil Wears Prada 2) and fashion at screenings.

2. Nepotism & "Nepo Babies"

• How Nepo Babies Move Through Hollywood
  • Damaris expresses surprise over the Baldwin/Justin Bieber connection.
  • Banter about Meryl Streep’s legacy and her attractiveness “in her heyday.”
    • [07:14] Damaris: “She’s 76—damn, she looks great.”
  • Discussion about who’s a “legit” nepo baby and a rundown of acting families, highlighting Maude Apatow.

3. Wild Hypotheticals: Relationships & Kinks

• "What would you do for your partner?"
  • Damaris jokes about bathtub “blowhole” kinks, leading to hilarious riffs about people’s secret obsessions.
    • [10:18] Damaris: "What if he’d be like, ‘Do that thing in the bathtub where you act like a whale and blow water out your blowhole?’”
    • [11:03] Rory: “Here comes the sperm whale…”
  • The crew dissects boundaries, ego, and the “price is right” approach to love.

4. New Music & Artist Independence

• Kehlani Album Release
  • Shoutout to Kehlani’s feature-laden album and discussion on the crew’s on-again, off-again rapport with her.
  • Personal recollections of misunderstandings over podcast commentary, specifically relating to Kehlani’s song about her mother ([12:51]).
• Simba’s App & Artist Ownership
  • Applause for Simba releasing music through his own app, post-major label “ringer.”
    • [14:44] Rory: "I think we should support artists the best we can, especially when they're talented."
• Other Releases
  • Anticipation for Reason’s album, new Lotto & Glorilla record, Action Bronson/Lil Yachty/Paul Wall collab (produced by Derringer), and a new Lil Twist/Lil Wayne track.

5. Hottest Rappers Right Now: Complex’s 100 List

• Debating the List’s Validity
  • Detailed discussion around Complex’s list, what “hot” really means (impact, anticipation, sales, public attention—not skill), and snubs/inconsistencies.
  • Notable Arguments:
    • Don Toliver’s Octane has the “hottest album”—so why isn’t he #1?
      [38:52] Damaris: "How was he not the hottest artist right now? His album is still the hottest album right now."
    • Gunna is ranked too low (#19); Future and Uzi aren’t hotter than Gunna.
    • Confusion over Pusha T (34) vs Malice (41), and LaRussell being at 100.
  • Broader Points:
    • Debate about age/generational bias in the rankings.
    • The impact "anticipation" has on an artist's heat.
    • The difference between public visibility, party hits, and critical acclaim.
    • The real purpose of these lists: to provoke conversation and discourse. [50:37] Damaris: “That’s what these lists gonna do… get us talking, get us riled up.”

6. Social Media Evolutions: The X (Twitter) Era

• Twitter Communities End & Social Platform Shift
  • Announcement that Twitter communities are ending, being replaced with X Chat, akin to Discord. Concerns over loss of public visibility with new chat limits.
    • [52:19] Damaris: "So do they have to restart the community, or do they just rename it?"
    • [54:00] Damaris: "How long does X have?"
• Monetization & Content Quality
  • The reality of ad revenue—huge impressions on X yield minimal cash, with only low-quality advertisers remaining.
    [59:12] Mall: “Unless you have brand deals… that is crazy.”
  • Discussion of rage-baiting, vague posting for engagement, and the downside of paying creators solely on impressions.
  • Harnessing “paid lies” as a hustle for teens, though they admit it promotes bad online culture.

7. Pranks, Pop Culture, and Scientology

• Gen Z Pranks & Scientology Raids
  • While typically anti-prank, Rory admits the Gen Z trend of raiding Scientology centers is entertaining.
    • [62:41] Rory: "I think I found one I can get on board with—Scientology raids."
  • Crew discusses the allure and dangers, plus their own brushes with weird religious orgs.
    • [64:23] Damaris: “What are they doing in these buildings?”
  • Comparisons between “unusual” beliefs—Scientology vs astrology.
    • [65:06] Rory: "Are they any different than a girl on Instagram obsessed with zodiac signs?"

8. Family & Legacy: Twins, Parenting, & 80s Nostalgia

• Personal Family History, Twins, & Parenting
  • Stories about twin genes, “accidental” babies, and large families of the past vs now.
  • Reflections on generational change in relationships, co-parenting, and acceptance of large families with multiple moms.
    • [70:16] Damaris: “They knew, like, yo, he got a whole nother family, they live in Brooklyn. Nobody was mad…”

9. 10 Years of Beyoncé’s Lemonade

• Reflecting on a Classic
  • Celebrating Lemonade’s anniversary, praising its artistry, and dissecting its impact on Beyoncé’s status.
    • [76:57] Rory: "That solidified… she is the pop icon of this entire generation."
  • Intimate analysis of "Pray You Catch Me," Jay-Z/Beyoncé’s public relationship, and the bravery of addressing infidelity through art. [77:16] Mall: “Pray you catch me is one of the best openings of an album…” [77:44] Mall: “I can taste the dishonesty—it’s all over your breath as you brush it off so cavalier.”
  • Gender double standards in public cheating stories.

10. Listener Voicemail: Drake’s Iceman Album Anticipation

• Will Mall Get Roasted If Iceman Flops?
  • Voicemail asks if Mall would get the same treatment as when J. Cole’s album disappointed some. They all agree they’ll be fair and objective: real friends critique honestly.
    • [85:54] Mall: “If we like it, we like it. If we don’t, we don’t.”
    • [90:02] Rory: “If I don’t like Iceman, I’m gonna say that.”
    • Hopes for a concise album, though everyone expects Drake will drop a long tracklist.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On "Nepo Babies":
  [07:39] Damaris: “Does Meryl Streep have any nipple babies?”
• Wild Relationship Bits:
  [10:18] Damaris: “What if he’d be like, ‘Do that thing in the bathtub…’”
  [11:03] Rory: “Here comes the sperm whale…”
• On Lists and Hotness:
  [38:52] Damaris: “How was he not the hottest artist right now? His album is still the hottest album right now.”
• On Twitter Monetization:
  [59:12] Mall: “That is crazy. Unless you have brand deals…”
• On Beyoncé’s "Pray You Catch Me":
  [77:16] Mall: "One of the best album openers. Unreal. 'I pray you catch me.'"
• Perspective on Infidelity in Music:
  [80:11] Mall: “I will leave you and marry the next and put all the frustration I feel from you into the way I suck his dick. Sometimes you gotta say that.”
• Reflections on Family:
  [70:16] Damaris: “They knew, like, yo, he got a whole nother family, they live in Brooklyn. Nobody was mad…”
• On Lemonade and Jay-Z:
  [81:30] Mall: "The way [the world] would have clowned Jay for losing Beyoncé..."

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Time | Segment / Topic | |----------|---------------------------------------------------------| | 03:16 | Opening banter, movie plans, & theater upgrades | | 07:00 | Meryl Streep, "nepo babies" discussion | | 09:49 | Relationship/kink hypothetical: bathtub "blowhole" | | 11:27 | New music Fridays, Kehlani feature talk | | 14:24 | Simba’s app & artist independence | | 36:28 | Complex’s 100 Hottest Rappers list analysis | | 52:22 | Twitter/X Communities end & social media shifts | | 59:20 | The economics of X monetization, rage-baiting, pranks | | 62:25 | Gen Z pranks: Scientology raids | | 69:06 | Family, twins, and parenting discussion | | 76:27 | 10 years of Beyoncé’s Lemonade; infidelity in music | | 84:40 | Listener voicemail: Drake’s Iceman, objectivity |

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Tone & Takeaways

• Language & Tone: Loose, fast, highly conversational, often playful with plenty of side-tracks.
• Humor: Witty, often explicit, with jabs and play-arguments (especially around music and personal histories).
• Stance: Skeptical about media lists and "machine" thinking, protective of artists’ autonomy, pro-artist independence.
• Vibe: Feels like hanging out with friends, poking fun at each other, pop culture, and the industry at large, always up for a new hypothetical scenario.

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Summary

This episode of New Rory & Mal is heavy on the signature chemistry, poking holes in media narratives, industry “lists," and social trends—while keeping things personal with family stories and running jokes. The crew moves seamlessly from deep dives into the “hotness” of modern rappers and the business of independent artistry to playful, laugh-out-loud banter about movie-going, generational differences, social media, family, and relationships. They bring music and culture closer to home with honest (and sometimes brutally comic) reflections, sprinkled with memorable moments and off-color hypotheticals for a thoroughly entertaining listen.

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Transcript

[Mall]

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[Rory]

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[Damaris]

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[Rory]

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[Rory]

no worry.

[Mall]

It's so silly of me to act

[Damaris]

like singing baby, get that back.

[Mall]

Cause, oh, I never lost a in my life. All I can think.

[Damaris]

That's not true. We all lost somebody we love.

[Mall]

If God removed it, it wasn't for me.

[Rory]

Can't lose what's not yours.

[Damaris]

But we love. Are we rolling? We love putting God in things that he ain't got nothing to do with. Like, that kills.

[Rory]

Especially with things he has nothing to do.

[Damaris]

Like, yo, like, when go and rob a bank and they be like, yo, God was with us. I don't think God was with y'. All. Like, I just think the cops was late getting there. Like, that had nothing to do with God.

[Mall]

Yo, I did the boldest thing I did. The. The God, please remove anything from my life that's not for me. Prayer boy. The feds did a sweep. That bitch coming through like the Rico.

[Damaris]

Lost your whole roster, huh? Mm, never mind. We are back. Sponsored by Boost Mobile. Unlimited talk, text and that back.

[Rory]

Yes, we. If you're listening on audio, we are on Netflix.

[Damaris]

Yes, we are.

[Rory]

If you want to see our beautiful faces. And we are back End of the week.

[Damaris]

End of the week.

[Rory]

Made it through.

[Damaris]

Made it through as a family, as a team.

[Rory]

Yes.

[Damaris]

As a community.

[Rory]

Any. Any big plans this weekend? I'm definitely gonna go try to see the Michael Jackson.

[Damaris]

Michael Jackson movie is available now, is in theaters now. If you're listening to this or if you're watching this, support Michael Jackson.

[Rory]

What theater you gonna Jackson?

[Damaris]

What theater?

[Rory]

Yeah, I haven't been out to the movies in a while, and I want, like, I assume just because of the music, you're not gonna want to go to, like, a janky theater. I want, like, probably a brand new updated theater for this.

[Damaris]

My go to because it has stadium seating is the AMC Lincoln. Lincoln Square. Okay.

[Rory]

Yeah, that one's great because they got the stadium seating.

[Damaris]

Kind of like it's like the fake, like, dome in Vegas.

[Rory]

It's like, it's.

[Damaris]

I mean, it's not the dome, but it's like, you know, it's stadium scene. It's a lot of, like, it's a big theater and it's imax, so the sound is great. The picture is Great.

[Rory]

Yeah, I saw Gatsby there with the 3D class. No, it was really good.

[Damaris]

I saw one of the avatars that. I think the second one, 3D in IMAX at AMC Legal Square. So yeah, that's my go to.

[Rory]

Yeah, I'm not mad. Not mad at that location. Maybe something in Jersey. I do want to go to one of those fancy ones that has like the couches and you can like order pasta and I've still never done that. Yeah, I'm still like popcorn and soda.

[Damaris]

We need to. Somebody, we need. We. Maybe we should do that. Maybe that's something we should look into. Revamping, like the movie going experience.

[Rory]

I mean, they're trying in some locations. I just don't think they're everywhere. But they do have those very fancy ones where like you can actually get a fucking meal. For real? Yeah, but I don't know.

[Damaris]

People don't go out no more. People don't go out to the movies no more. Unless it's like a Marvel movie. Like once, once the New Avengers come out, you ain't gonna be able to get a ticket for two months.

[Mall]

Yeah, no. As long as the movie is like good and well advertised, people go out to the movies. When I went to go see the house made, people were everywhere. It was packed in there.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I'm talking. Cause I definitely was trying to get a ticket to project Hail Mary the other night and that was sold out.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

So I'm like, Project Hell Mary is sold out.

[Mall]

I guess it's a really. I hear it's a really good movie.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I still gotta go see that.

[Rory]

Yeah, I think it's starting to come back around because they thought Netflix and streaming would kill it. Because you stay at home. I think people are kind of like tired of always just doing that now, like going to the movies back being a thing. Because you're so used to sitting in your house watching movies. Yeah, like I'd like to experience this better than my couch.

[Mall]

The Devil Wears Prada too is coming out.

[Damaris]

Oh, I'm definitely gonna see that. You know, they gonna be. They gonna be outside if you dress

[Mall]

to the nines too, putting that shit on.

[Damaris]

I need to see it. I gotta see it.

[Rory]

Yeah, I'll go on my west side gun gear.

[Damaris]

And I'm a big Meryl Streep fan,

[Mall]

so, you know I'm a big Anne Hathaway fan.

[Damaris]

Huh. Yeah. I'm bigger than Meryl. You like Anne?

[Mall]

Mm.

[Damaris]

Meryl. Meryl was a hot piece of ass, boy, her heyday.

[Mall]

Her heyday.

[Damaris]

And her. Hay, you old fluff. Late 80s, early 90s?

[Rory]

I would say like late 20, 25, 26 right now.

[Mall]

Nah, Meryl's still fine, though. I ain't gonna lie.

[Rory]

Still looks great.

[Damaris]

She's 76.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Damn, she looks great. Yeah, I ain't gonna lie. What we talking about 70 something years the other day. Yeah, I ain't gonna lie. I might take Meryl down.

[Rory]

You definitely take Mer.

[Mall]

Merle.

[Damaris]

I'll take Merle now. Come on.

[Rory]

Does she have a daughter that. That acts or something? Doesn't she have some family member that's not, like, famous?

[Mall]

I could see that possibly. Yeah. Ryan, just Google Meryl Streep, Nepo baby, and see what's up.

[Damaris]

Nepo baby. Does Meryl Streep have any nipple babies?

[Rory]

I mean, I guess you can be a nipple baby with acting, but you have to, like, be good. Like, is there real Nepo babies in acting? That's like, they definitely didn't deserve this. They're trash. Besides Chet Hanks, Even though Chad Hanks was pretty good in your honor, I can't lie. He wasn't bad. Chad Hanks, he what? He really wasn't bad.

[Mall]

He really can't get past episode three.

[Damaris]

I don't know how you can't watch that. That show was so fire.

[Mall]

Oh, okay.

[Rory]

Yeah. I feel like you can't be in that.

[Mall]

My favorite young Nepo baby right now is Maude. Maude Apatow. That's Alexi from Euphoria.

[Rory]

Yeah, but she's a great. She's been a great actress since she was a little kid in. In her dad's movies. Like, she's a really good actress. She was great in the. Pete Davidson, too. The King of Staten island, yo.

[Damaris]

I just found out the other day that Justin Bieber is married to Stephen Baldwin's daughter, Haley Baldwin.

[Rory]

I thought it was Alec Baldwin.

[Damaris]

Is it Alec or Stephen?

[Mall]

It's Steven. It's not.

[Rory]

Okay, I got you.

[Damaris]

I had no idea. I did not know that. I had no idea. Yeah.

[Mall]

Yeah. His father. So people think it's weird because.

[Damaris]

And they showed the clip, like, when they first met as kids. Like, I was like, this is fucking. What universe is this?

[Mall]

She recently taught. It's not. She recently talked about it how when she was younger, her father, like, wanted. She said, my father wanted me and Justin to stay friends, so she even, like, put me in his church so that we could keep a relationship. So she. Her dad's been getting critiqued as in, like, almost like he set his daughter up from a Very young age.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mall]

But they. Yeah, they've known each other since they were children.

[Damaris]

Remember coming to America?

[Rory]

Yeah, It's a pretty good example.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Since she was born. She was raised. I'm just saying it happens, that's all.

[Rory]

The way it should be.

[Damaris]

Yeah, it's the way it should be.

[Mall]

I always wondered if I could hop on one leg and bark like a dog.

[Damaris]

I'm sure you can, Baby D. And I'm sure you have.

[Mall]

If the price is right.

[Damaris]

If the price. If that ticket. If that ticket is right, Baby D, you'll do more than that.

[Rory]

Like, that's it?

[Damaris]

Yeah, baby's like, that's it. Like, I can do more than that.

[Rory]

What's. What type of man would it take for you to do something?

[Mall]

I would. My ego was bigger than my greed. My ego is bigger than.

[Rory]

I'm not. For reasons like, you're just that much in love that you would do anything for this person.

[Mall]

I would never be in love with somebody who would want me to hop up and down and bark like a dog.

[Rory]

Everyone has their kinks.

[Mall]

Oh, okay, that ain't mine. I'm cool.

[Rory]

Love is about compromise.

[Damaris]

But what if he'd be like, yo, I want you to, like, do that thing in the bathtub where you act like a whale and you blow water out your blowhole.

[Mall]

Ma. There you. I don't even know if it's therapy. There's something you need.

[Rory]

What's the blowhole?

[Damaris]

You know what the blowhole is? We all have a blow hole.

[Mall]

What is. What is wrong?

[Rory]

Like, gotta come up for air.

[Mall]

You need a fucking lobotomy.

[Damaris]

All right, I'm sorry, baby.

[Rory]

You're a big advocate of not shaming people and their stuff.

[Mall]

I didn't know that was Moss Kink. It's people blowing bath water out of their asshole. I didn't know that was.

[Damaris]

I didn't know she could do it, like, until she did it. I was like, you need to be in the circus.

[Mall]

All right, how did you.

[Damaris]

And how do you learn that? Like, how do you learn that you can do that? Like, how much practice did it take for a woman to be like, yo, I could definitely do that.

[Rory]

That being Mal's kink walking. Here comes the sperm whale.

[Mall]

That's. Y' all are fucking sick.

[Damaris]

I'm in the bathroom like the kid in Free Willy, yo. All right.

[Rory]

With the Michael song playing.

[Damaris]

Okay. All right. We are back, sponsored by Boobs Unlimited. Talk, text and data.

[Rory]

New music Fridays. Yes, we talked last episode about the Kehlani album, but that Is available right now. Wayne T. Pain, Cardi B, Brandi, Big Sean, Usher, Missy, Lil John.

[Damaris]

It's a lot of features.

[Rory]

And Leon Thomas, a lot of good features. What I did here at the listening event was really, really, really good. So I suggest everyone check out the Kehlani album.

[Damaris]

Listening. I ain't gonna say you said that last episode.

[Rory]

I mean. Yeah, I was just, you know. You know, name episodes and just, you know, we know, you know, it's radio.

[Damaris]

You and Lonnie is cool. We know that.

[Rory]

Lonnie.

[Damaris]

You and Lonnie be kicking.

[Rory]

We have a. We have a. A rocky relationship. Yeah. So a lot of ups and downs, but we. We. We are in a good place.

[Damaris]

Why do you and Kehlani have a rocky relationship?

[Rory]

Because of things we've said on the podcast. Me, all of us.

[Mall]

Who the is all of us? I ain't said.

[Rory]

No, I'm saying this, this.

[Kal Penn]

This.

[Rory]

This goes. This goes back years. Like, oh, years ago.

[Mall]

All right, cool. Yeah, leave me out.

[Rory]

But we all got into, like, a good place. And remember, you ended up in a group chat with her at one point, too. I put me and Kehlani in a group chat again. It's like, eight years ago. You probably just don't remember. I can't remember. And we all like Kumbaya and. And made a mess. She miss. I think she misunderstood, and I understood why she did, because the topic of her mother is very sensitive. We're talking about the song the Letter, which I think is incredible. And I understand that, too. Sometimes you just hear people bring up family members, and I do remember that you just see red. Like, you don't even care what they're saying.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I remember.

[Rory]

Which I understood where she was coming from after she. We were complimenting how incredible of a writer she was with that song.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I don't. I like. All jokes aside, I don't like when people walk around thinking that we was talking shit about them and it's an issue. Like, I. I don't like that because I really don't, like, have an issue.

[Rory]

She ran down on me at last lap. What was you talking? I was like, hey, whoa, whoa. It's not even like that.

[Damaris]

Oh, man. Nah, we love.

[Rory]

No, I love.

[Kal Penn]

Love.

[Rory]

Kehlani album is really, really good. I know Tamaras is excited. She's gonna have countless, countless captions on the way. You already got. You got a little Kurt curl style already. What's the shit called?

[Damaris]

She got her. She got her scarf on like Kaylani. I remember Lonnie came out with the scarf with the good hair laying underneath that scarf like that. Good cleavage showing.

[Mall]

I'm ready.

[Damaris]

You like you Lonnie ready. I know.

[Mall]

I can't wait.

[Damaris]

Got that Lonnie fit on you.

[Rory]

Better not talk to no man. Just studs tomorrow for you. That's it.

[Mall]

Just studs. I don't date studs. I am the stud.

[Damaris]

Cuz y' all don't even know that head. That. That head come off with that scarf. It's nothing but corn. Meek, meek braids under.

[Rory]

Sometimes she's the whale. Sometimes she's the hammerhead.

[Damaris]

Y' all want to see how fast Baby D could go from lipstick lesbian?

[Rory]

It's like Clark Kent changing in a telephone.

[Damaris]

My bad, baby. I'm just. You.

[Rory]

You really.

[Damaris]

Your baby hate when I with. All right, I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done.

[Rory]

I'm done.

[Damaris]

I'm done, I'm done.

[Mall]

This could hate when he bully. When I bully him. Like, what the fuck? Don't worry. Mitch and Major coming. I'm gonna have my.

[Rory]

Your reinforcements.

[Mall]

Yeah, my reinforcements.

[Rory]

Also today, Simba put out his new mixtape on his app. The Simba app, where you can get his project. He sent it to me as well. I'm happy for Simba. I love what he's doing, too, with his own app, his string and stuff. Everything he's doing outside of rap, I think is very commendable. So definitely download his app. I think we should support artists the best we can, especially when they're talented.

[Damaris]

Especially when they're doing it on their own like that.

[Rory]

Yeah. And he definitely went through the ringer with Atlantic, so I'm happy that he's able to just release music when he wants to know.

[Damaris]

But, yeah, so he's independent now. Fire. Shout out Simba, man.

[Rory]

Yeah, it's good. It's good to see reason, too. Like, you can see all the people of why it took them so long to release music. May have not been their fault.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Because once they get out of their deal, they're dropping every other week. And reason is. Is this Friday as well, Correct?

[Mall]

Is it?

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Yep. Moving towards love Reasons album. Definitely check that out as well. We get a lot of. Excuse me.

[Mall]

Speak.

[Rory]

Lotto and Glorilla record. Tamaris is gonna have quite the Fridays off.

[Damaris]

Oh, Baby D. How you feeling?

[Mall]

I'm happy for them.

[Damaris]

Lotto and Glow. Glow Lotto hope it's good. We hope it's good.

[Rory]

It's gonna be a zoogie.

[Damaris]

I think it'll be good. I Think it's hard for. Because it's a single, right? Yeah, I don't.

[Rory]

I.

[Mall]

It's to the y' all. Y' all beat. Remember y'. All. Y' all Soulja boy.

[Rory]

I do.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I see what they doing.

[Mall]

Yo, mall is so fun.

[Damaris]

Yeah, yeah. Once I hit. Once I hit the. The beat in my head and this lot for real. I know what they doing.

[Rory]

Get off my jock.

[Mall]

You know how I rock. That's how Lotto start her shit.

[Damaris]

What she said.

[Mall]

She said, get off my jock. You know how I rock. That's what Lotto said.

[Rory]

Body count only five.

[Damaris]

I know where Lotto going with that all summer. Oh, every. Every brunch, every day party. That's what they. They trying to live with that. That song right there.

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah. My man, my man, my man.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Rory]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Damaris]

A lot of weed, a lot of you pregnant.

[Rory]

You ain't go.

[Damaris]

You ain't finna be outside this summer.

[Mall]

She look like she do. She probably is.

[Damaris]

It's over. Narrow. Ain't gonna be outside this summer.

[Mall]

No, but what I'm saying is she looks like she's due, so she probably is.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Mall]

Like, she's gonna drop that baby at

[Damaris]

any moment, and then what?

[Mall]

Summer ain't for a couple of months.

[Damaris]

She gonna be in the house once.

[Mall]

Once her two.

[Damaris]

With little man. Man, she having a boy, a girl. Oh, yeah, she definitely in the house. Mom got her girl. She ain't Latto. Ain't gonna. We ain't gonna see Latto outside for a minute.

[Rory]

But does Lotto really go outside?

[Mall]

She's dropping an album. Outside is like. You drop. Like, outside is like, when she's working.

[Rory]

Yeah, she's still gonna work. No, I think so. Yeah. And is this on Lotto's album or.

[Mall]

It's gonna be on the album that drops May 29th.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mall]

Big Mama.

[Rory]

Got it, got it, got it.

[Damaris]

Oh, wow.

[Rory]

May 29th, Big Mama. That's a. That is a tough time to put an album out, like, right when you have a kid. That's. Yeah, that's tough.

[Damaris]

Well, I mean, she live in her. She live in her rhyme. She Big mama for sure.

[Rory]

Now, do we think. Do we get the 1988 version of 21 and Lotto? Because I'm actually kind of here for a lotto and 21 of them. I actually don't think that would be a bad album.

[Mall]

I don't need an. I don't need an album. I need an ep. I don't know if it happens. I would hope so. I Would hope for it, but I don't know if it happens.

[Damaris]

Don't give it to me right now. Give it to me when the. When. When. When the. When the girl. When the baby is about four.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

A little bit of time.

[Mall]

That's. That's so long in hip hop time, though.

[Rory]

No, I mean that long. But I wouldn't even want them to do the. The love shit that Janae and Sean did, even though I love that album. I'd rather lotto and 21 savage just do all trap. Like, don't even give me a loving bar. I just want the two of them to just rap on all metro boom and shit.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but I want to hear once they start, like, once. Once baby girls start walking and somebody got. You gotta start taking her to daycare, to school and all that. I want to hear with them conversations between 21 lotto. It's like this. Don't give it to now. When it's beautiful. It's bl. Brand new, baby. We both happy. Life is great.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

When lil mama don't want to lay down and go to sleep and y' all both up all night and then you got to get up, take her to school. Yeah, that's when I want to hear them bars. I want to hear them bars then.

[Rory]

But. But 21 has kids, right? Yes. I mean, so he. He at least knows what, like, he's in for at this point. So. Yeah, it'll probably be a little easier when you have someone that has. Has a couple kids already.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Rory]

They know what's happening is. And Lotto's got hurt, her mom or sister. There's help there.

[Damaris]

It's a village. It takes a village. Takes a village.

[Rory]

A London village. Action Bronson, Lil Yachty and Paul Wall, produced by Derringer. Shout out to Derringer. I'm excited to hear that record.

[Damaris]

Anything. Action Dropping, I want to hear it.

[Rory]

Anything Paul Wall related, I'm here for.

[Damaris]

That's true.

[Rory]

He's been doing some features the last few years, and he hasn't missed.

[Damaris]

And produced by Derringer. Yachty on a Derringer beat.

[Rory]

I'm nervous, but we'll. We shall see.

[Damaris]

That's interesting. Okay. Yeah, I definitely got to hear what Yachty did on the Derringer beat.

[Rory]

But, yeah, other than that, there's. There's other music coming out. Isaiah Falls Back In My Arm single Little Twist and Lil Wayne put out a record today as we're recording. It's called Addict and I. And I can't lie, It's Pretty good, is it? I mean, Little twist is a carbon copy of Wayne, like, down to voice tone.

[Damaris]

I can't tell them apart on a record.

[Rory]

Yeah, it is very tough, but Wayne

[Damaris]

kind of went off.

[Rory]

I'm, like, really not mad at the record. I wanted to go in hating it, but it's catchy.

[Damaris]

I didn't. I heard Peach playing it when I walked in, but I ain't really.

[Rory]

Like, it could maybe work.

[Mall]

I like it.

[Rory]

I could see it.

[Damaris]

Like it. You. You jacking it.

[Mall]

Yeah. Okay. I, like, might not work, but, I

[Damaris]

mean, what does work now?

[Mall]

Exactly. That's why I'm like. That doesn't even matter to me.

[Kal Penn]

Like, what works.

[Rory]

Yeah, I bet you.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

But.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Rory]

Do you love this attic record the way Fat Joe and Jadakiss love Young Miami's new record? Yeah. Are you that invested?

[Mall]

Yeah. Yeah. Spin that. Spin that. Spin that. Yeah. You ain't spinning that. That's why y' all don't feel it. Joe and Jada, they spending that. That's why they felt it. You feel me?

[Rory]

They're both married men. They're spending on mortgages, furniture.

[Damaris]

You ain't never see kids spending no money. Throwing no money in the club.

[Mall]

Money in no club. She didn't say, spin that in the club. She said, spin it on me.

[Damaris]

Oh, okay.

[Mall]

Them spending money on their girls.

[Damaris]

Keyword, their girl.

[Mall]

That's who Young Miami was talking about.

[Rory]

She said scammers, drug dealers spend that.

[Mall]

You don't think scammers and drug dealers be in relationships.

[Damaris]

I think they rent a car. I think they pay for.

[Rory]

I think the other girl thinks they're in a relationship.

[Mall]

Oh, y' all are. So.

[Damaris]

Yeah, they play. They rental cars. It's fine.

[Mall]

I don't know why y' all think scammers and drug dealers and, like, they're still people. Dumb.

[Damaris]

First of all, cousins.

[Mall]

Nah, bro. Them be loving the hardest. Dumb. Love the multiple women. Not always. I don't know why. Where y' all get that from? From the.

[Damaris]

I know that. Scamming and selling, but they don't cheat

[Mall]

no more than the average nigga. It's not like they're known.

[Damaris]

Yes, they do.

[Mall]

That's not true.

[Damaris]

Yes, they do.

[Mall]

That's not okay.

[Damaris]

Not all of them, but. No, I know them. Damaris.

[Rory]

I don't date.

[Damaris]

I know them.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Damaris]

Yeah, they cheat.

[Mall]

You know, regular. That. You with regular jobs. Exactly.

[Damaris]

When is getting money like water. And they don't care about. They gotta. They ain't got to go to work and earn that money. They could just bust a fake check. They not faithful to. 9 times out of 10, they not faithful to the woman they're dating.

[Mall]

Okay?

[Damaris]

They have multiple women.

[Rory]

They loyal to the.

[Damaris]

Because they have options. They can do whatever they want.

[Mall]

Game fried me bad, I'm not going to lie.

[Rory]

What's the point of having six gift cards for one woman? That's a gift card per.

[Damaris]

If I bust two. If I bust three checks today for $30,000. I made $90,000 today. You think I'm a faithful man?

[Mall]

So money is what makes men cheat.

[Damaris]

No. When I'm young and getting it like that. I'm not. It's not. You're crazy to be. To even think that I would be faithful.

[Rory]

It allows them to cheat easier. I'll say that.

[Damaris]

Yeah. I'm going to Miami because you. I'm gonna bust a move, then we gotta go to LA and bust another movement. You think I ain't busting no buns while I'm out there either?

[Rory]

Like, no, the scammers are out there for work.

[Damaris]

Like, what you. What you think I'm doing? I'm just going to the hotel and laying down and FaceTiming you all night? Yeah. Stop it. And then y' all be so mad when y' all find out. And then y' all be knowing that it's other girl. Y' all know the girl. Other girl that the nigga mess with. Y' all follow each other from a burner account.

[Mall]

They know.

[Damaris]

They're like, yeah, I know. I know he with her. But y' all don't care when this nigga coming home and taking you and spending $20,000 on you in a day like, y' all don't care. Well, not y', all, but they don't care. Yes. No.

[Rory]

Cheating is a rich man's game.

[Damaris]

Yeah. That's what. Don't y' all let us say that. Women, y' all might have came up with that ball. Men definitely didn't come up.

[Rory]

Oh, no.

[Mall]

For sure.

[Damaris]

Yeah. So why are you sitting there acting like, no, they don't cheat?

[Mall]

No, I didn't say that. That's not what I said. I said they don't cheat no more than the average man. Me, personally.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but then y' all say what I've seen. But then y' all say, cheating is a rich man, sport.

[Mall]

Yes, but they're not.

[Damaris]

So then they have to cheat more than the average man.

[Mall]

But when I'm talking about the average man, I'm talking about the average man with money. Not just, like, regular people. Like they don't cheat no more than a with a 9 to 5 who make $200,000 a year.

[Rory]

I disagree there. And that's just off pure time.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

If I gotta get up at 8:30 to shower to go to work at

[Mall]

9, that get up, shower, act like they going to work for eight hours and be with the side the whole time.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but you talking about very specific individual. I'm talking about you only get two

[Rory]

weeks vacation at a 9 to 5.

[Damaris]

I'm not saying. But I'm saying those are specific individuals that do that. I'm talking about if a dude is scamming and right now, Today he makes $50,000, he don't got to get up at 8am to make another $50,000. Tomorrow he can do whatever he want for the next two, three weeks.

[Mall]

Yeah, very true.

[Rory]

And he's out all night.

[Damaris]

Yeah. The nigga that's making the, that got a good job making over 90,000 to $100,000 a year. He ain't cheating like that. He, he, I'm not saying he don't cheat, but not like homie that can just book a flight to LA right now. Yeah. Or book a flight to Houston right now and go to the club to

[Rory]

Instagram and just yo, I'll fly you

[Damaris]

out options is more.

[Mall]

The only point was that drug dealers and scammers also have girlfriends.

[Damaris]

That's that they love never arguing that.

[Mall]

That was what I originally said and you was like they rent a car. No, them niggas be having. They may cheat on them, but them have girlfriends that they spend money.

[Rory]

You can't cheat unless you have a girlfriend. Ah, chicken and egg.

[Damaris]

That is true.

[Mall]

Chicken, egg.

[Rory]

But no, it's not on a moral side, I think the 9 to 5 guy has the same lust the drug dealer does. Drug dealers just have more time to get that lust demon off.

[Mall]

The lust demon.

[Rory]

Sometimes that 9 to 5 will save your life. Keep you in an office for 12 hours out the day I'm home, I'm tired, I gotta wake back up.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And I'm not going out.

[Mall]

No.

[Rory]

I don't want this chick to come over, save your life. Yo, you saving lives and, and the drug dealer know. And scammers know they only have so much time. Like this is only going to last for. I gotta like live this to the fullest because I'm definitely gonna sit down for five years. So you know, I get it. It's the way of the world.

[Mall]

You see how young Miami bought this discussion out of us?

[Rory]

What was worse Me listening to Jim Jones on video or kissing and Joe listening to this younger man. I've never seen Kiss smile like that. I've seen footage of Kiss listening to all about the Benjamins final for the first time, and he didn't even make that face.

[Damaris]

Fat Joe never heard a song he didn't like.

[Rory]

Don't do that.

[Damaris]

I'm just saying it. You ever see Fat Joe say, that is whack?

[Mall]

Well, nobody. I've never seen you say, oh, that is whack. On camera. On camera I've never seen.

[Damaris]

Anyway, so, Rory, how was your week? How was your week on camera?

[Mall]

You be telling people they whack when they sit in front of you. You tell people they music in front of me. Exactly. But he.

[Damaris]

How you saying exactly? What are you talking about?

[Mall]

If somebody's sitting in front of you like they're sitting in front of Fat Joe, he's not gonna sit up there and look somebody in their face.

[Damaris]

Sat in front of me and play music. Damaris.

[Mall]

But you're missing my point. You saying Fat Joe. You never seen Fat Joe hear a song he didn't like? He's not gonna sit in front of somebody and tell them they shit is whack when the camera's off. He probably like, yo, that ass. But he's not gonna do that to their face. That's rude.

[Damaris]

What?

[Rory]

I'm just saying the record's good. I fuck with the record, but you could just bop your head like they. They was in there. Like they just heard Purple Rain. Like. And I like the record. I don't think they're lying.

[Damaris]

That's a catchy record.

[Rory]

I think they both think the record is good because it is a kind of an undeniable young Miami record. Like, it's good. I see why she wanted to premiere it. It's a good single, but nah. Kiss, he's smiling like his son was just born.

[Damaris]

Yeah, Kiss. Kiss. Don his head. Like, he heard he hand Illmatic for the first time.

[Rory]

Like, he was screaming over the music. It's out of here.

[Damaris]

And kissing like, he was, like, writing a 16 in his head. Like, if she asked me to get on a remix, I'm on it.

[Rory]

Not for nothing, Kiss and Joe would sound great on the remix of this record.

[Mall]

Kiss would definitely sound good on the remix.

[Rory]

That's a Kiss pocket right there.

[Damaris]

Kiss has never sounded bad on a record.

[Rory]

Like, when did we. There's not a bad.

[Damaris]

Like, when have you ever heard Kiss on a record and was like, nah,

[Rory]

I've never heard a bad Jadakiss verse in my life.

[Damaris]

No, I don't.

[Rory]

One of the few rappers that. There's never been a whack verse where

[Mall]

I was like, if Young Miami was sitting in front of my face, she could have been farting over her Monica, and I'd have been bobbing my head.

[Rory]

Oh, no. I would have been smiling. She right with her.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I would have been doing that. You would have been doing what?

[Rory]

That's the dance.

[Damaris]

Oh, man. See you next record, though. It's definitely a catchy record.

[Rory]

Is it. Is it over for the City Girls? Like, are they just solo now?

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Or they, like, been over. I know, but, you know, sometimes groups, like, go solo and then come back.

[Damaris]

I mean, is it over over? I mean, they might come back. They might make like they come back together like the BET Awards, you know, they love to. People love to come back together at the BET Awards at a moment.

[Mall]

I think Young Miami has spoken on record about how their friendship is a little fractured.

[Rory]

Got it.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Cause the last record they were on together was the act Bad Shit, the

[Mall]

Puff record, if I'm not mistaken.

[Damaris]

Yeah, you went crazy to that. Remember when you was outside going crazy today? Yeah.

[Rory]

That one's.

[Damaris]

That one's you and Fat Joe, the same

[Rory]

act.

[Mall]

Bat was a good record.

[Damaris]

So is this one. What's the name of this one?

[Mall]

Spin that shit, I would assume. Spin that Shit.

[Damaris]

It's catchy for sure. It's definitely catchy.

[Rory]

I feel like. I mean, JT and Young Miami both make cool music separately, but I feel like they should. It'd be better for their careers if they just gave, like, one more. Proper City Girls.

[Mall]

I disagree. No, I think JT is better on her own.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mall]

I think she has a very niche type of music that she likes to make. It leans almost into pop, like techno kind of rap. I think she needs to stay in it on her own.

[Rory]

That's cause she's got Uzi in the kitchen with her, so I get that part. But, I mean, I feel like when she was locked up, they never got, like, a proper full run. I felt like the City Girls, like, there was always something going on or, like some label shit or someone's locked up. Like, there was never, like, five years where they just focused on the City girls.

[Mall]

Five years is so long.

[Rory]

I know.

[Mall]

Especially for females.

[Rory]

But they've been. They've been out for how long? What was that first mixtape when they're in the kitchen? That was before COVID right?

[Mall]

It was before COVID Yeah.

[Rory]

They've been out and that tape was fire.

[Mall]

Yeah, but five year run, like straight run. That's a very long time period.

[Rory]

What year was period? 2018.

[Mall]

Yeah,

[Rory]

yeah, but there was so much up and down between that. Like, I don't think they. Of course they had great singles and they had another album. But I would like to see like a focused City Girls for a few years. But yeah, we'll see. Young and May is back. Think Young and May. Young Miami's back. Do you think she'll address anything on this project in regards to what's been happening in her life? I can't ask that question.

[Mall]

You don't care.

[Rory]

I do care.

[Damaris]

I thought you were moving into the next topic.

[Mall]

I'm like, you don't care, bro. You don't care. No, you don't.

[Rory]

She was in a full blown relationship with Puff through this whole thing. What are you talking about?

[Mall]

She had a whole interview. You just don't.

[Rory]

She gave us her dreams and nightmares. It kind of came and went, but n. She could get in her bag. You don't burn the dreams and nightmares that she did. I gotta find out what's going on in here.

[Damaris]

Don't care.

[Mall]

So I'm like, if you care, you would know. She did it in interviews.

[Rory]

You don't care what she say in the interviews. That is a bunch of nothing.

[Mall]

Which is fine. She. That's what she gonna say in the music too. She ain't gonna address that. Address it? Address it. Like she's addressed it before. She said, diddy ain't putting hands on me. Like, she's spoke about that shit multiple times.

[Damaris]

She definitely has spoken about it.

[Mall]

Yeah. Multiple times.

[Damaris]

I think she was on.

[Rory]

This is the responsibility of our greatest artists of our era. They need to address these things in their music.

[Damaris]

The greatest artists of our era.

[Rory]

That's their responsibility as artists.

[Damaris]

Yeah, no, no, I got you.

[Rory]

Like, you don't want Shakespeare not to talk about the time.

[Damaris]

No, I definitely want Shakespeare to talk about the time.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Are you saying that your mind me

[Rory]

is the new Shakespeare in certain parts of Miami?

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Rory]

I think she speaks for a lot of the. What was it, the Capulets in Romeo and Juliet?

[Mall]

Why you can't just like, talk about people music without like, like making fun of them? Because you know what you're doing right now is making fun of her.

[Rory]

No, you guys are making fun of me because I want to hear young Miami.

[Damaris]

We're making fun of crazy. We're not making fun of young Miami.

[Rory]

So how. How am I making fun of young Miami?

[Damaris]

Because you're saying she's the Shakespeare of Miami.

[Rory]

Oh no, I was just around there.

[Damaris]

Yeah, exactly. I'm answering your question.

[Rory]

You talk about to some people she would be.

[Damaris]

Yeah, she speaks for she's not the Shakespeare of Miami. I promise you that she's not. Who's that? Ryan? Okay, I thought it was thought it

[Rory]

was McDonald's Mondays for you only start the week with that. All right. Anyways, yes, I think Young Miami is great and to some people probably speaks for them.

[Damaris]

That record is catchy though. I could definitely see Baby D posting something to that. I know, I know Baby D. I know what you read to do to that song. Hey had that trending

[Rory]

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[Mall]

So Complex came out with another list. I know y' all love their list.

[Damaris]

Shout out to Complex.

[Rory]

I love when bills are due at the end of the month. Sometimes you got to list it up.

[Mall]

They came out with a list of the 100 hottest rappers. Right now I'm putting the emphasis on hottest because they came out themselves in the article and said on their methodology it's not about skill. It's not about the best. Skill is not the determining factor. This is a temperature check on a given rapper's impact on the scene. We're judging rappers on the music they put out in its impact, while also considering how anticipated pending new releases are. We locked this list on March 24, 2026. That's important, too. So hottest rappers right now.

[Damaris]

So let's see the list.

[Rory]

At number one is J. Cole. Number two is Drake. 3, Kendrick Lamar. 4. NBA YoungBoy. 5. Yeet. 6. Don Tolliver. 7. Travis Scott.

[Damaris]

Don Tolliver might be the hottest rapper out right now.

[Rory]

I mean, for what he did on sales with the last project, he should be in top five without question. I understand. Yeet just put out a project, and I know NBA Youngboy breaks every streaming record every hour of every day.

[Mall]

Don Toliver is not hotter than NBA Youngboy.

[Damaris]

Don Toliver's hotter than J. Cole right now. That's a fact.

[Mall]

In March of 20. March. In March of 2026, Don Tolliver was not hotter than J. Cole. Y' all, yourself spent three episodes straight talking about him.

[Damaris]

Don Tolliver is still hotter than J. Cole right now.

[Mall]

We're talking about when they did the list.

[Damaris]

He was hot, hotter then, and he's hotter than. His album came out January 30th.

[Mall]

Okay, but what I'm saying is, when they did the list, they locked the list in March 24th.

[Damaris]

I get that. Yeah.

[Mall]

2026. J. Cole's album had just dropped a month ago. Don Tolliver was not hotter than J. Cole. Y' all did not spend four episodes talking about Don Toliver the way that you did. J. Cole, I think also didn't go

[Damaris]

on a press run. It was on every other podcast for two weeks.

[Rory]

Yeah, there was a lot of, like, history with that as well. It wasn't just strictly the J. Cole album. It was the first album since the Beef, since the Apology. Like, there was a lot tied to that. I. I hear you, though. Fall off did 281st week. Octane did 162. I feel what Mall is saying, though, that Octane album is, like, the most played right now by everybody. Like, you can't go outside and not hear someone.

[Damaris]

It's the hottest album still right now. So how was he not the hottest artist right now? How's he not the hottest rapper right now? His album is still the hottest album right now. Today, as of April 24, 2026.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Damaris]

Don Tolliver's album is the hottest rap album right now.

[Mall]

Okay.

[Damaris]

So I mean, if that's their list of just who's hot, like, Don Toliver's not six. No way. He's not number six. Like that's. And I get it. The mean accomplice does this to get people talking. Don Toliver is hotter than number six right now. He has the hottest rap album currently to. How's he six?

[Rory]

I'd be lying if I said I keep up with all NBA youngboy stuff. I'm just trying to see like, yeah, he's been.

[Damaris]

He's hot too. Of course. Like we seen it like, but I'm just saying Don Tolerant six. No, he's higher than six. That's all I'm saying. Put him where you want to put him after. But he's higher than number six. If you have the hottest rap album right now, you have the best rap album out right now. How are you number six on the list?

[Rory]

And I understand the Yeet shit just dropped and that that was a crazy drop. Like, we all saw how big Yeet really was with this last release. I think it's a little unfair though, because. Is it gonna stick? Octane is stuck. So I would put Don Toliver over Yeet simply based off this year with Don to like the just happened. Like,

[Mall]

which was the point. This point was hottest right now.

[Damaris]

And if they cut the list at March 24th. Didn't get album come out after that.

[Rory]

That I don't know.

[Damaris]

I think definitely came out after March.

[Mall]

It might have. It might have. April went really fast, so I can't remember March 27th.

[Rory]

So his.

[Damaris]

His album came out after they cut it off. And he's hotter than Don Tolliver.

[Mall]

It was anticipated.

[Rory]

Okay, but I'll say it was anticipated because it was already the number one.

[Damaris]

It was already the number one rap out.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Okay. So what I. What I do think is that we have an age issue with this podcast because I think if we had a 23 year old in here, 24 year old that was into hip hop, that was into this type of hip hop like this. I think that he. They might argue with you about that topic.

[Rory]

But Don is not for. We'd be the oldest guys at the Don Toliver show by far.

[Mall]

I hear what you're saying. Right. But just because you like Don himself does not make you well versed on everybody else on the list. Are you seeing what I'm saying?

[Damaris]

Album came out after this list was

[Mall]

also says on the list. Anticipation, anticipation. For example, Drake is on this list right now as high as he is outside of him being Drake. Because Iceman is so anticipated. Like you said, it's the anticipation of an.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but at least Drake is still doing more numbers than a lot of these niggas on the list still currently. So we understand that we don't have to talk about him and Kendrick, but

[Mall]

for the young people, yeah. Album was anticipated. As you guys seen when the album came out, the line was wrapped around the bottom.

[Damaris]

I get it. I understand. Yeet has a. He has a following. He's hot. Don Toloma's album was out. Was doing numbers, was on top of the charts. It left like, it has not left. He has the best album so far this year in rap.

[Mall]

Where is Gunnar on this list? Because I feel like Gunna is low. I feel like Gunna is too low. That's my fight. I feel like Gunna is way too low. Yeah, Gunna is 19.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

That's low for Gunna.

[Mall]

That's too low for Gunna. Future is not hotter than Gunnar right now.

[Rory]

I agree.

[Mall]

Future is not hotter than Gunna. Lil Uzi Vert is not hotter than Gunna. Like, I. I don't know.

[Rory]

Yeah, I'm with you.

[Mall]

Way too low even.

[Rory]

Like, when was.

[Mall]

When did Jay announce them concerts? Because if that. If he announced after March 24th. Jay is too high.

[Rory]

I wouldn't argue against that. I agree. I definitely agree. Not active at all. But yeah, if you add in the 30th anniversary, then I could see why. Yeah, they would make the list. Got it.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Rory]

But even like, no disrespect to Uzi, but why is Uzi higher than Gunna? Like, can someone explain that to me?

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Did I. Did I miss the Uzi release that I'm not aware of? Gunna's last two albums have sold better than everybody else. They have not left the charts like, sold out arena shows. Yeah. Gun is still very active. I think TI is a little low.

[Mall]

Oh, they re ranked. They did a re rank. That's funny.

[Damaris]

Re ranks. They did a re rank.

[Mall]

Yo, they said do over. Okay, you know what this is? This is for us to vote. I'm sorry, that's. So they have somewhere where they was like, we did our list. Now you vote and they give you.

[Damaris]

Okay. What you mean they re ranked?

[Mall]

That's my bad.

[Rory]

TI has one of the hottest records out period, right now, 21.

[Mall]

Especially with all that beef and going on.

[Rory]

He's hotter than Future right now.

[Mall]

He will be a. TI Will be

[Damaris]

a little bit hotter, but, man, TI is not hotter Than future. What are you talking about?

[Rory]

Right. TI has one of the biggest records period right now. They went through the whole beef thing. Yeah. TI Is hot as he's been in

[Mall]

quite some time, but. But not. But TI Would got hot because of stuff outside of music. So I think that.

[Rory]

But then the music stuff with 50. He had dis records.

[Mall]

Yeah, but nobody had disregards.

[Rory]

And then you also have an incredible. Can you go outside and not hear that T.I.

[Damaris]

song?

[Mall]

Yes. I've never actually never heard it.

[Rory]

Oh, I don't know what to tell you. That is playing everywhere.

[Damaris]

You ain't never heard that song outside. And you was outside. You was in Houston.

[Rory]

Yeah, they played that. They. You was out all last weekend. I'm sure you was in Atlanta.

[Mall]

Don Toliver. I maybe hear one of those Don Tolliver songs.

[Damaris]

No, we not doing that.

[Mall]

I'm. I'm being. I like Don Toliver's album, but I hear maybe one of those songs when I'm out. So that's why y'. All, like, it's the hottest.

[Damaris]

All right, so when you went to Houston, Atlanta, what were they playing?

[Mall]

Well, it's a part. It's probably different because it's party music. So it. The music that people may listen to or that's at the top of the charts is not what you're going to hear outside. It's not part.

[Damaris]

But I'm just saying, like, what just. I just want to know what they were playing.

[Mall]

That. The baby song. Sexy Red Pop. That thing. Let it clap, Let it clap Ride that beat while you sit on my lap. I was also in the south, so I heard a lot of South Classic.

[Damaris]

No, that's what I'm asking.

[Mall]

Yeah, but like, classic, older, like, party songs. A lot of this new music is not made to party too.

[Damaris]

That Don Tyler album is crazy. He got so much heat on that album.

[Rory]

I don't understand. Push it to you 34 and malice at 41.

[Mall]

I mean, that. That kind of makes sense to me.

[Rory]

I think it was pretty even on the Clips album.

[Damaris]

Wait, wait, wait.

[Rory]

Who was at 34, pushes at 34 and malice is at 41.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I don't understand.

[Rory]

I don't really get. I don't get that has Push done features since.

[Mall]

I don't think it has anything to do with just the music.

[Rory]

Like, just because he's. He's just more outside.

[Mall]

Yeah, Push is the more famous brother. Like, that just is what it is. He'll be.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but 34 and 41. I just want to know how niggas landed on the number. Like, that's all. Like, how. How malice get the number 41? Like, what was the. What was the. He was like, no, wait. Nah. Just let's bump him down to 41. Like, I just want to know that conversation.

[Mall]

Like, who's in between?

[Damaris]

Yeah, I just want to know that conversation. That's all. That's all.

[Rory]

LaRussell at 100, closing up the list. I feel like if you talk about

[Damaris]

hot, LaRussell hotter than a lot. He hotter than 100. Like, don't do that.

[Rory]

That heaven sense should put him maybe.

[Damaris]

Maybe number 12. Maybe top 10. If we talk about hot. Yeah.

[Rory]

He talks about traffic. Yeah.

[Damaris]

He was numbers of the town. He was the talk of the town, man. Like, for real. He had a round.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Russell ain't. He ain't number 100. Don't do that to the Russell, man.

[Rory]

That's funny. Yeah. I mean, I don't even know how you put this type of stuff together. That's why. That's why I hate. Or how 100. How do you even. How do you even get to Pluto at 55?

[Mall]

Like, yeah. Once they start hitting the 50s, I don't even recognize some of these because I don't know Xavier. So based on.

[Rory]

You feel like they snubbed Jack Harlow? Yeah.

[Mall]

Nah, you don't.

[Rory]

You don't think his Neo so album gets him to the top?

[Damaris]

Jack Harlow is hotter than LA Russell.

[Mall]

So is he higher? Is he higher?

[Damaris]

Yeah, because I think Jack Harlow's hotter than the Russell. Oh, for what? Monica.

[Mall]

Well, this was before Monica, right?

[Damaris]

That's exactly.

[Mall]

But Jack Harlow was just more known than the Russell. Like, that's just. Jack Harlow isn't more known than the Russell.

[Damaris]

It's not.

[Rory]

Monica came out March 13, 2026.

[Mall]

But even still, like, Monica didn't come

[Damaris]

out March 13, did it?

[Mall]

Yeah, there's no way.

[Rory]

It was released by Atlantic Records on March 13, 2026.

[Mall]

That's crazy. Time is fucking flying.

[Damaris]

That Monica album came out March 13th. That's crazy. I feel like that came out, like. I feel like they came out, like, the beginning of April.

[Mall]

Yeah, me too. Time flying.

[Rory]

That's what timeless means, yo.

[Mall]

That means anybody listens to that.

[Damaris]

Don't look at me in my face. That's what timeless means, bro. Don't do that. Yeah, I don't know this list.

[Rory]

I don't even think you put Jack on it. If, like, he puts out a Neo soul album that flops and the hottest rappers, doesn't that kind of take him off the list. There's no disrespect to Jack.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but it wasn't a rap album.

[Rory]

That's what I'm saying.

[Damaris]

Yeah. I don't know, man. I can't. This list is just like, all right.

[Mall]

Jack is definitely hotter than Russell. I don't like. I don't even. That's.

[Rory]

Russell is like the coldest rapper.

[Damaris]

How you say?

[Rory]

It's what the machine tries to do. They try to display independent creators and try to prop up artists that are on majors like.

[Damaris]

You part of the machine. You part of the problem, bro.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

How you gonna say Jack Harlow's hotter than campaign? Yeah.

[Rory]

Is that Damn.

[Mall]

Name a little Russell song real quick.

[Rory]

Like heaven.

[Damaris]

That you, man?

[Mall]

That's what's up.

[Rory]

I'm in my backyard.

[Mall]

Not for sure, yo. For sure.

[Rory]

I hear you mean.

[Damaris]

Where you supposed to be,

[Rory]

Travis?

[Mall]

A little high, too. I ain't gonna lie.

[Rory]

I didn't want to be the one to say it because people think I'm a Travis Scott hater now, but.

[Damaris]

Yeah, where's Travis?

[Mall]

I said JayZ. I love Jay. Way too high.

[Damaris]

Travis Scott's number seven.

[Rory]

Yeah. Which is kind of wild. I mean, they announced the Rodeo 10 Year Anniversary Vinyls that look really cool. I don't know if that puts you at number seven, though.

[Mall]

They said. He said. Despite not putting. He has over 60 million monthly listeners on Spotify DEP. Despite not putting out a new solo album last year, Scott still made himself omnipresent. And that's before even factoring in the brain collabs and crossover wrestling moments.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mall]

On the music front, there was the release of the Jack Boys 2 album, which stepped on the Clips's reunion album. And more recently, there have been standout appearances. I didn't even know that. On Don Tolliver respective albums. I think Jordan did, right? Oh, no. Kiana Fitzgerald wrote that.

[Rory]

I can't. I can't. So they don't. He doesn't write it.

[Mall]

Jordan doesn't write it alone. He definitely has help. Yeah, he definitely has help writing.

[Rory]

No, it definitely stepped on the best rap release that year.

[Damaris]

They was nominated for a Grammy.

[Rory]

I. I forgot the Clips even put an album out once. That Jack boy.

[Damaris]

Oh, God, man, this is crazy.

[Mall]

Baby. Keem is.

[Damaris]

But that's what these list do, though. They. They know what these lists gonna do. Like, it's gonna get us talking, get us riled up, which is why they put the. What is it? The re. Rank.

[Rory]

But I mean, if you're going off hard Ticket sales ASAP, Rocky should be in the top 10, in my opinion.

[Damaris]

But of course he should.

[Rory]

Yeah. And that album was anticipated.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Again, I don't get it, but that's what lists are for.

[Mall]

Well, Lil Uzi Vert, when we were trying to figure out why he's at number 12, he currently has a number. Well, his hit. He had a hit that hit Billboard that peaked at number 12, so.

[Rory]

All right, well, Beat out, the clock is on. You got 24 hours to respond with the top 100 best bars of March or something.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I got you.

[Rory]

You see, Ray Daniels and Beat out are beefing. I. I can't for the life of me figure out what they're beefing about, but the clips are very funny. Like, how did that beef start?

[Damaris]

Yeah, how do we even.

[Rory]

How do we get here?

[Damaris]

Yeah, man, I don't know, man. I. I don't know. I'm not that invested in.

[Rory]

I guess I couldn't tell you what the source of it was. I just saw Ray talking about it and I laughed because I was like, how. How did these two start beef?

[Damaris]

I think B Dot said something slick and was like, bro, like, I don't have no issue with you. Like, why would you even.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Like, speak about me in that way? Like, I think that's what it was. I think he just. I think B Dot said something that Ray Daniels didn't like.

[Rory]

He left him off the top 10 exec list.

[Damaris]

Nah, I don't think it was nothing like that. I think it was something. Something. He just kind of slided Ray a little bit. And Ray was like, that was kind of weird because I don't got no issue with you, so. Yeah, no, no. You know how this should go, man? Put these mics in front of us and somebody say something. It's like, you know, somebody get offended. That's something.

[Rory]

Someone's definitely gonna get offended at some point.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Anyways, rest in peace to Twitter communities.

[Damaris]

What does that mean?

[Rory]

We have a Twitter community for our listeners where they can talk about the show. And, you know, a lot of podcasts have the Twitter communities, but X is getting rid of Twitter communities and replacing it with X Chat, which is supposed to be x's version of WeChat or other end to end encrypted community apps. So I guess maybe more like in the Discord world.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Rory]

But I don't think it'll affect too. Too much. It's still. It's still a Twitter community if they're going.

[Damaris]

So do they have to. Do they have to restart the community or do they just Rename it that.

[Rory]

I do not know. Something else. Yeah.

[Damaris]

That they made. So you have to make a whole new thing. Yeah, got it.

[Mall]

I think it will affect a lot of people, actually, because Twitter could. The thing about Twitter communities is I could tweet the community and like all my followers and everybody else still sees it's not private. Like.

[Rory]

No, no.

[Mall]

A very public thing. Going to join something private, like, people have to know that it's even there.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

People get notifications about our community because they just see regular tweets.

[Rory]

Like, so a thousand person max per chat is definitely tough too, for. You know, there's. There's shows with a hundred thousand people in their Twitter community.

[Mall]

Yeah. Honestly, I had. It was originally gonna get real.

[Rory]

Real clicky in there now. Must be real high school in that.

[Mall]

It was originally 350. I saw. I didn't even know they upped it to a thousand.

[Rory]

Yeah. I'm interested to see where this. This goes, but. And I want to see like, the interface is to your point, Damaris, of like, if I say something in a community, everyone can see it. Is this just going to be a private chat?

[Ray Porter]

Is.

[Rory]

Yeah, I don't know. It's gonna be. I don't really see this move. But then again, there's no employees at Twitter.

[Mall]

It's just. Yeah, I was really gonna say it's

[Rory]

literally Elon and algorithms that just run that place. So I don't know if there's anyone.

[Damaris]

How long does X have?

[Rory]

It's. But it's. Twitter looked like it was about to die and then X. It's like the big platform.

[Mall]

Yeah. It resurged.

[Rory]

Yeah. X. X is the app now.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

But with things like this, though, I

[Rory]

like, I think it surpassed. IG was smoking Twitter for a very long time. I think X has surpassed ig. I mean, it's Tick Tock and X in my opinion, as far as like the two main.

[Mall]

But IG is having a resurgence because Tick Tock has changed so much. It's slowly but surely dying.

[Rory]

Not IG's. IG's one of those that isn't gonna go away.

[Mall]

It's like Facebook.

[Rory]

But yeah, it'll just fluctuate as far as being more important than some of the other ones. But I mean, yeah, Elon buying Twitter looked like the stupidest deal ever.

[Damaris]

But he.

[Rory]

He not only changed the app, he changed politics. And like, for the worst, by the way. Like now if you click one thing political, you're going to get a bunch of. Just in that scope, in that world. But that's. That's the world we live in now with politics.

[Mall]

Everything is like, X is turning slowly but surely into Reddit, though. It's kind of. It's disgusting.

[Rory]

No, it's. It's definitely a different app. It's not as fun as it used to be, but X is not going anywhere whatsoever.

[Mall]

But it does suck again. All of these social people being paid from engagement on social media is really affecting everything.

[Rory]

Yeah, bro.

[Mall]

Like, it's annoying.

[Rory]

Yeah. Because there can only be so many community notes. Like, people are just purposely spreading misinformation and not even like manipulating misinformation to fit their narrative. Just straight up lying, knowing they're lying. Just. And they get paid.

[Mall]

It's vague posting. Yeah. Yeah. Do you know what that is? So let's say you tweet something or whatever. Like, you tweet. Let's say you tweet a picture of a cute girl and I retweet and be like, we all know the one artist. Like, this girl looks just like. And then there's a bunch of people in the comments like, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who? And you never answer. You vaguely post something so that it leaves people. It's a hook. It leaves people guessing and questioning, wondering. People do that all the time.

[Damaris]

Why don't they just ask Grok?

[Mall]

Because there's. Because it's an opinion. It's not a fact. Grok only has, like, facts. You can't, you know, sometimes.

[Damaris]

And Grock doesn't have facts.

[Rory]

Let's make that very, very clear.

[Damaris]

I said somebody was somebody in a video, and I was like, that ain't her.

[Rory]

Like, yo. And then you got to upgrade to the premium Grock plan.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Premium Grock might have got it right, but regular Grock, he don't be knowing sometime.

[Rory]

But I mean, should. Me and Mo were talking the other day of like, if we were in high school and like Uber Eats existed and if I was a kid, I would definitely do that type of stuff. If I was a kid.

[Damaris]

I'm about to do that as an adult.

[Rory]

Yeah. If I could get paid off the lying on Twitter and I'm like a 17 year old kid. Yeah, I'm probably gonna do that. Yeah.

[Mall]

Or rage baiting people.

[Rory]

It's. It's corny and terrible, but I, I get why some people are like, wait, that's all I have to do to make 300 bucks tomorrow? Yeah. Rage made away.

[Mall]

And you have. You have to do it a lot because you have to get a lot of engagement to get a hundred dollars off Twitter, Like a lot of engagement.

[Damaris]

To get a hundred dollars.

[Mall]

Yes.

[Damaris]

What's the engagement on that?

[Mall]

I can't even remember. But like, I've had tweets that were. Have like 4.2 million impressions and I might have got like $5 off of them. Like, it's not.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's paid me out. Not like great, but I was making some good money when I wasn't even like consistently posting.

[Mall]

They must really like you.

[Rory]

Yeah, well, not so much anymore. To earn a hundred dollars from engagement, you must participate and create a revenue share program. Add impressions of product.

[Damaris]

Ten.

[Rory]

A million impressions from. From verified premium users.

[Mall]

Exactly. There's.

[Rory]

To get a hundred. A hundred dollars.

[Mall]

A million from verified people. Yeah, that's a lot. That means like 10 million.

[Rory]

That's. That's significant amount.

[Mall]

Yeah. So it's. It's a lot.

[Rory]

Yeah. And. And requirements to get paid follower count, 500 followers. Like. Yeah, there's a lot of stipulations in there for it to count.

[Damaris]

So you're telling me that Drew Ski video when he was something. Charlie Kirk's wife, Erica. Erica Kirk. He probably only made like $10,000 on that video.

[Mall]

Way less than that.

[Rory]

Well, I mean, maybe just from X, but I'm sure Snapchat, he posted it and made a money TikTok from.

[Mall]

Oh, yeah, he might be 300, 400. He didn't make that much.

[Rory]

I don't think he made 10 grand, but he definitely.

[Damaris]

That had like. That had like that look.

[Rory]

157.

[Mall]

Okay, so maybe a thousand dollars. He didn't make that much money from Twitter, but from other places. He. Yeah, he wrote.

[Damaris]

That's just. That's his views impressions. I don't know how they. Italian impressions. I'm guessing they're gonna. They add in the reposts and things like that too.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mall]

Views are impressions. As far as I know.

[Rory]

Based on current estimates for X ad revenue sharing program, 187 million views can generate approximately 1500 dollars to $2300.

[Mall]

I told y', all, he's not making that much money off X.

[Damaris]

That is crazy.

[Mall]

Unless you have brand deals.

[Rory]

187 million times eight. Yeah, yeah, you're not making. But I. That's not where Drew Ski is. Like, look, he's not looking to X to get income.

[Damaris]

No, no, no, we know that. I'm just saying the fact that you can create a video posted on x, get almost 200 million views, and that platform only pay you out $2,000 for that.

[Mall]

Crazy.

[Damaris]

That Is insane.

[Rory]

But they. They used to. When I was making more money on X, they used to put ads under your posts. They kind of stopped doing that. That's why I think people are making less money. Like, if you would. If you were getting some traction below your post, there would be, like, an ad, okay, that someone would pay for and you would get a portion of that. I haven't seen that, and I haven't been on X in a while with my personal account, so I just think they're not paying out with the ads like they were before. And who. X is an advertiser's fucking nightmare at this point. Like, yeah, I don't even know if there's a lot of incentive for a serious company to try to fucking promote ads under Twitter posts.

[Mall]

There are certain.

[Rory]

It's fucking insane in there.

[Mall]

There's a certain.

[Rory]

A certain dick pills and, like, supplements for sure, but, like, I just don't know of a regular company's like, yeah, we're gonna. We're gonna advertise on X. I was

[Damaris]

watching, so a clip from Shannon Sharp's interview with Mike Beasley, if y' all get a chance. Check that out. It was really good, Good episode. And one of the clips, you know, it was a clip where Mike was kind of, you know, getting emotional and talking about some personal things and things he dealt with and battled. Good conversation. But it was kind of like one of those emotional conversations, right? So I'm looking at that, and I'm like, damn, man. Like, I didn't know Bees was going through, you know, like, that. Ro. Over time, so soon as I'm in the crib and I'm looking at. I'm feeling all that cut to use Cold Shannon. But I was like, fam, you can't put this. You can't put this. This heartfelt, like, conversation at the end of this clip. And then Shannon pop up to my use code. Shannon. I was like, bro, you just took the whole move, like, so that kind of ruins it. Like, I get what Shannon has to do. He got to, you know me, plug, you know, I mean, to get his motherfucking money. But I was like, I don't know if we needed that. At the end of this clip, though,

[Rory]

I was watching Tucker Carlson interview Ted Cruz about his relationship with donors in Israel. I'm locked in.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And Ted Cruz is on the ropes, fighting. I'm like, this is the most compelling shit I've ever seen. Then stops. Which wallet do you use as an adult? I never knew that I needed a wallet. Like, this. I'm like, okay, can we get back to the senator admitting that?

[Damaris]

Which wallet do you use? Fam. That's more important. You need to know about your wallet and what's in it. That's the more important conversation. Yeah.

[Mall]

Hey, man.

[Rory]

No, that should be. I be dying laughing, watching the Candace Erica Kirk stuff, and she just break out in the middle of like, do you have a Bible?

[Damaris]

Yeah. Put that ad in there. Exactly. Get their money. And juicy on getting 200 million views and they only giving him $2,000.

[Rory]

Nah. Drew ski.

[Damaris]

I'm plugging. I'm plugging my ad, too. At the end of that video, I'm gonna get this bread. One way or another, I'm gonna get this money.

[Rory]

I get it. While we're on Gen Z, usually I'm the old man. Get off my lawn. I hate all these Gen Z pranks and these. These kids are ruining society. I think I found one that I. I can get on board with Scientology raids.

[Mall]

Ah.

[Rory]

Gen Z kids are running into Scientology centers just to see how far they can get to add to it. They all have air horns.

[Damaris]

I see this, but I. Because I've seen a couple of these.

[Rory]

What is like, can we go on one more? Can. Can we please do a Scientology?

[Mall]

Y' all can't run.

[Damaris]

Because the one thing about all of those kids that I don't think you notice and worry, none of them are black. My black ass. Running a Scientology building.

[Rory]

We'll get you gloves, a mask.

[Damaris]

No, I might not make it out because these kids. Somebody gonna get hurt doing this.

[Rory]

Oh, for sure. No, they. L. Ron was definitely on some. There's a reason they're so secretive.

[Mall]

It's them running in there. And what are they hiding? Like, you gotta go through so many twists and turns. Like, what are they fucking hiding in there?

[Damaris]

Yeah. Cause you can run through any other building like this. Unless you know if. Obviously a government building. No, that's not happening. But, like, I could run through a Catholic church like this. Wouldn't be the people that look at you like, you crazy. Like, why are they running through here like that? I could run through restaurants. I could run through a school, maybe. Yeah, like that, right? What is it about? What are they doing in this? In these buildings?

[Rory]

Listen, I tried to do the same thing with the tunnels in Brooklyn. I couldn't get there. But they did find mattresses down there with blood on them. Wasn't just kids roughhousing.

[Damaris]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

No, that's. Boys will be boys. That's really what they tried to say. About that. Oh, those. Those pesky kids.

[Damaris]

Not kids are roughhousing. You know that.

[Rory]

This is hilarious, though.

[Damaris]

No, this is funny.

[Rory]

Have you ever been to the. The Scientology center on Hollywood Boulevard?

[Damaris]

I've never. Well, I walked past it. I've never been opposite.

[Rory]

I went the week of my album release.

[Damaris]

You went in 2023.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah. And I. I like, played the act like I looked like a lost soul that needed saving.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Rory]

And just. I just wanted to see, like, what their. Their pitch was because it's like a museum in the. That one, and then there's, like, the center. You can't go past certain part, but it has, like, the history of L. Ron Hubbard and, like, obviously the really accurate details of their religion that actually definitely happened. Like the aliens and the ship. Everything super accurate. Shrine of Tom Cruise. You know, the whole thing.

[Mall]

Scientologists believe humans are not just bodies or minds, but immortal spirits that have lived many past lives on Earth and other planets. These are unconscious. They have Ingrams that are unconscious. Traumatic memories that plague individuals. Call it causing irrational behavior and illnesses.

[Rory]

I mean, here's my. Are they any different than a girl on Instagram that loves zodiac signs? Like, are they. Are they any different?

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Should we shame them that much?

[Mall]

Yes, they are different.

[Rory]

How different all religions are on paper. I'm not here to offend anyone's religion, but one could say if you're not part of that religion, this sounds insane. I don't think Scientology.

[Damaris]

If you don't understand anyone, you think that it sounds insane if you don't understand it.

[Rory]

Yeah, but they're definitely doing what's. What's the woman from King of Queens, Leah Remini. Did you ever watch her series because she grew up in Scientology like her mother, Everything.

[Damaris]

Another hot piece. Smoking smoke show.

[Rory]

Yeah, no, she's. She's on my white list. Yeah, for sure. And she's. And one thirty Staten island girl. That's.

[Damaris]

That's my love.

[Rory]

Homegrown.

[Damaris]

Mm.

[Rory]

Her series, she showed how corrupt and, like, satanic and sick that.

[Damaris]

Because she's out of it now. Right? Okay.

[Rory]

Yeah, no, they. They did some insane things. She also went on Rogan and explained everything. Like, yeah, there's some nasty going on. But, hey, listen, I grew up Catholic. I'm not about to say the Vatican is squeaky clean. So, yeah, I have no dog in this race. I can't speak. So, you know, it is what it is. But, yeah, it's very manipulative. Like, they are definitely trying to find lost souls that just ended up in. In Hollywood. It's very. Used car salesman. It's very. You can. You can feel the manipulation in it. But I. I suggest everyone just go take a walk and talk to a Scientologist. It's a good afternoon.

[Damaris]

Maybe we should go to one, like, just. And just inquire. Like, we're just interested.

[Mall]

Let's pretend that we're a married couple, and then I'm pregnant with a kid when we go. Well, because, like, we gotta have like, a, like, role play. Like, spice it up.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Would that make a difference in them letting us in?

[Mall]

Yeah. If I tell them I'm pregnant and I feel like my baby's going to

[Damaris]

hell, they let you in?

[Mall]

I don't know.

[Damaris]

If somebody was to walk into my establishment and said, I'm pregnant and I think that my baby's going to hell, I would escort them out of the building.

[Mall]

No, that's you.

[Rory]

They would. Tom would touch her belly and say the kid would be heaven's sake.

[Mall]

They will say that there's an extraterrestrial being clinging onto my child, and they have to give me counseling so that we can free that bad spirit from my baby.

[Damaris]

That lush demon that. Okay.

[Mall]

Damn. I got a lust baby.

[Damaris]

You got a lust baby in there? Yeah.

[Mall]

You think he was a lost baby or you think he was made with love?

[Rory]

I think I was made with love.

[Damaris]

Yeah. I was made with love.

[Rory]

Better than being an oops baby.

[Damaris]

I hope I was made with love. I never actually. I never had the conversation. Did y' all love each other when y' all was having sex? Should never ask my parents that.

[Mall]

You should ask.

[Rory]

You can't get twins without love.

[Damaris]

My homeboy got twins by somebody he. He had sex with the first night.

[Mall]

Are you serious? Facts.

[Damaris]

I said, nigga, your karma is crazy. First night you asked sex, you had twins with some girl you just met.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Damaris]

Crazy.

[Mall]

Do they like each other still now they cool.

[Damaris]

Like, they not. Yeah, they still, like, they do a great job co parenting and shit like that.

[Rory]

But yeah, y' all with that twin gene hereditary. Like, y' all are risk takers.

[Damaris]

For real.

[Rory]

Because that's different. Like, if I up.

[Damaris]

It's just.

[Rory]

It. Most likely it's gonna be one kid like you. You're doubling down every time you enter,

[Damaris]

but it skips a generation.

[Rory]

It does.

[Damaris]

I don't think so.

[Rory]

I just know it's heredity.

[Damaris]

That's what they say. That could be Scientology, too. I don't know.

[Mall]

Yeah. I can't remember whether identical twins is a mistake or fraternal. But one of them is not genetic. I can't remember which one. I'm about to look it up right now.

[Damaris]

What do you mean, not genetic?

[Mall]

So it happens in the womb. It's not like a. It's not a genetic thing. It's not something you pass down, like.

[Damaris]

Oh, okay, I see what you're saying.

[Rory]

Yeah, well, identical.

[Mall]

Identical twins. Identical twins are rare and random. Fraternal twins is influenced by genetics. Okay, Identical twins is just a mistake that happens.

[Rory]

Okay, got it.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Well, I mean, so I'm not a mistake.

[Mall]

No, you're.

[Rory]

You.

[Mall]

You are probably influenced by genetics.

[Damaris]

That would have been a difficult conversation to have with my mom. I was a mistake. Why did you never tell me this? Do you love me?

[Rory]

Respectfully. The numbers your pops did put up, though, like, yeah, he was. Did you think we don't have to say which one is one of them? Was definitely, like, nah, that wasn't planned. You can't have that high in numbers and everything be planned.

[Mall]

Your mom plan to have a. Be, like, the fifth baby mama? Ain't no way she planned it.

[Damaris]

If, by Rory's theory, I would be the mistake. Like, I'm the youngest.

[Mall]

That's what I'm saying.

[Rory]

Like, ain't no way he thought he was done.

[Damaris]

Yeah, yeah, I would be the mistake. But I'm just saying, Rory's theory, I would be the mistake in that.

[Mall]

And then your last kid, like, you got, like, seven kids, and you gonna have twins. Oh, my God, bro.

[Rory]

Yeah,

[Damaris]

man. It's a different time back then in the 80s, man. Different time. Life was different.

[Mall]

Not taking care of your kids, huh? I said, people don't really shame you for, like, having too many kids and

[Damaris]

not taking care of them. Had mad families.

[Rory]

How the population kept moving.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

And they knew, like, yo, he got a whole nother family. They live in Brooklyn. Nobody was mad, wasn't trying to run down on nobody. Yeah, it was like, nobody was mad about that at all.

[Mall]

Yeah. Run into. You won't run into them. I'm crying.

[Rory]

God. Was there. Your brother Bob was the oldest, right?

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So what's. What was the age difference between y'?

[Damaris]

All, Me and Bob? Yeah. When Bob died, he was 33, I think. And I was just turning. I was 21. I would have been 22.

[Rory]

All right, so, like, around 10.

[Mall]

So, like, 10. 11 years.

[Damaris]

11 years.

[Rory]

Oh, your pastor's putting in work.

[Mall]

Your dad has six other kids in 10? 11 years.

[Damaris]

More than that. More than six.

[Mall]

No, I'm six other kids. The twins, Bob. That's Cause it's. Oh, wait, how many of y' all is it?

[Damaris]

10? 11.

[Mall]

11.

[Rory]

All right, one a year. He was consistent. Okay, well, any Irish twins in there?

[Damaris]

No. Okay. Although me and Hopcom must be. Probably be Irish. No, no, we can't close, though. Close.

[Mall]

I always felt like hot was happy

[Damaris]

birthday to Hop, too.

[Mall]

His birthday was Happy birthday, Hop.

[Damaris]

420. Hop would be born on 420. That makes so much sense.

[Rory]

I'm so mad the mares wouldn't let us clip up that seat on your bicycle.

[Damaris]

Oh, my God, that was so. The marriage. That was.

[Rory]

Can we still clip that up?

[Mall]

No.

[Damaris]

Damaris be hating. No, that was platinum. Baby D. Baby D, don't lie. That was platinum. That was platinum.

[Mall]

No, the joke was funny. Yeah, but the conversation.

[Rory]

No, the hymen part was what we do.

[Mall]

Not even that. It just looks. It looks really bad. No, but it is very funny.

[Rory]

Maybe we just see it differently. I don't see the bad part.

[Mall]

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[Rory]

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I really had to make a decision because I caught myself getting that frog in my throat and starting to get teary as I'm narrating some of these sections and it's like okay, yo yo yo, is this indulgent? And I really thought about it.

[Damaris]

I was like no.

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At this point it would kind of be betraying the trust the author and the listener have in telling this story if I don't go through it. But there's places in this book that that deeply, emotionally affected me and I left it on the mic. That's great cuz it served the story. People will say like oh my God, I cried at the end. It's like yeah dude, me too.

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[Rory]

Happy 10 years to Lemonade classic album.

[Damaris]

10 years already.

[Mall]

Yeah. God damn.

[Damaris]

Damn.

[Rory]

Where were you when Beyonce brought the lemons in, man?

[Damaris]

Sitting around listening to that. Like, damn, this is an incredible piece of work. I think that was the album that kind of like, solidified Beyonce. She was already a superstar, but, like, it put her.

[Rory]

It put her in a. Yeah.

[Damaris]

Lemonade was like. They're like, yo. She's like, she. She's untouchable. Like, no more.

[Mall]

I think self titled did that.

[Rory]

But I hear you that. That solidified. Solidified. She is the pop icon of this entire generation for sure. That's such a great pop album. Lemonade showed a different range of where it's like, artistry. Oh, yeah, yeah. Now you getting in a whole different bag. I mean, Lemonade is a classic to me.

[Mall]

Pray you catch me is one of the best openings of an album. Unreal to ever exist. Pray you catch. And that's not me just being a Beyonce fan. Pray you catch me objectively is fucking insane to open an album with nigga. I pray you catch me. I pray I catch you whispering. I pray you catch me listening. That's a fact.

[Damaris]

That's a fact that spoke to you.

[Mall]

Pray you catch me listening to your lying ass on the phone with another bitch. That's what Beyonce said.

[Damaris]

Spoke to your soul, didn't you?

[Mall]

That bitch said, I can taste the dishonesty. It's all over your breath as you brush it off. So cavalier.

[Rory]

That's poetry. And then you get right into, hold up. We're about to start smashing some car windows.

[Damaris]

That's a fact.

[Mall]

She went crazy.

[Rory]

But yeah.

[Mall]

Shout out happy birthday. Eliminate.

[Rory]

What do you think? Do you think B was sending or playing Jay records as she was making it? Or she waited till that Was completed to sit him down and get his talking to.

[Mall]

I'm sure he heard, like, her little glimpses of it, like, in the home studio. Like, you just walk past to go to the bathroom and you hear some like, you know what?

[Rory]

Hold on.

[Mall]

Is this play about us?

[Rory]

I would hear sorry and be like, you know what? I'm gonna go to the gym. I think I'm just gonna out. I'm Blue Ivy.

[Mall]

Yeah, Blue Ivy. Restless. I'm.

[Damaris]

Take her to the party, Man, B ain't playing none of that.

[Rory]

Tata. I want to play tennis. I'm gonna just leave.

[Damaris]

He ain't played none of that for Jay. Jay heard that when we heard that.

[Rory]

You think so?

[Damaris]

Man, hell, she kept all that in the raps. Like, man, nah, you go ahead.

[Mall]

Cause what you gonna do?

[Damaris]

He ain't couldn't do nothing. Yeah, he got it, but he probably didn't want to hear it until it came out. Like, I just hear it when it dropped.

[Rory]

Yeah, but I'm sure that was also rough too, of. Of me listening to specifically the 444 song. I'm sure she probably. Beyonce doesn't strike me as the person that's like, I'll just hear it when it comes out. No, she wants to proofread everything.

[Mall]

Well, I'm sure he had to approve that with her. Oh, you're going and telling people that I had. You had a. Multiple miscarriages because I stressed you out so bad.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mall]

You probably should run that by your wife.

[Rory]

But that's. That's got to be. I mean, I'm sure they've. They've had those conversations and had their therapy like, before they got to that. So they'd address a lot of stuff. That's still got to be tough to hear.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And B was on Most of that 444 tour, like, watching that song be performed. The way Jay was even talking to gq, how tough that was to perform every night.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Hearing that on the other. The other end. You were the victim of that. Like, yeah, that's got to be rough.

[Damaris]

Imagine Beyonce sitting on the couch staring at Jay. Why she play him the Lemonade album.

[Rory]

And my thoughts were my thoughts staring at him.

[Mall]

Nah, you could watch my fat ass twist, boy, as I hop to the next dick, boy, look him dead in his eye while I play that.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

And keep your money. I got my own.

[Rory]

You gotta. You gotta straighten up after that.

[Mall]

Sometimes you just gotta say it. Like, people are like, oh, my God, that's so. Nah. Sometimes you just gotta tell a Even

[Rory]

if that's not the case, he just gotta hear that.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Because just the thought of that possibility happening. Nah, I'm a straight. No, I'm sorry.

[Mall]

I feel like a lot of. I feel like. Like a lot of women tipt toe around certain like when they're getting cheated on. And like, even when they do like little get back like that, like, it's always very private and they don't understand that men are kind of dense sometimes. Like there a lot of men's egos will think like, this ain't never gonna leave me. Sometimes you have to say, I will go leave you and marry the next and take all of the frustration I feel from you and put it into the way I suck his dick. Sometimes you gotta say that.

[Rory]

I don't.

[Damaris]

Even if you don't mean it.

[Mall]

Even if you don't mean it. You have to because need to hear that. Sometimes you can't pussy foot around with them.

[Rory]

We're not even dating.

[Damaris]

That.

[Rory]

That like hurt me. That hurt my chest.

[Mall]

Stop cheating.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Like sometimes it's that simple.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah. No real shit.

[Damaris]

Like start shitting.

[Mall]

You gotta tell me.

[Damaris]

Sit your ass down. Yeah. Just relax.

[Mall]

You better lose your family.

[Damaris]

You got Beyonce at home. Sit down.

[Mall]

My bitch said try. You try that shit again, you gonna lose your wife.

[Rory]

That's a man mental health, man. You gotta think about that.

[Damaris]

That hov caught cataracts after that. He can't see shit. Hov said I don't see.

[Rory]

He moved out of New York.

[Damaris]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We go, we gonna move. Yeah. Nah, that.

[Rory]

I don't even want to run into somebody.

[Damaris]

That would be the loss of all losses, bro.

[Mall]

The way would have clowned Jay for losing Beyonce.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah.

[Damaris]

That's the loss of all losses.

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah, that would have been. That would have been nuts.

[Mall]

Would have clowned him so bad, bro.

[Rory]

But I know he was. He knows the Beehive better than anybody. I know he was listening to Lemonade on that couch like, yo, I might get assassinated.

[Mall]

They still don't like him. They still don't like him.

[Rory]

Like, if Jay ever said something, well, not negative, but told stories about Beyonce doing things that he did, us as hoe fans wouldn't like, despise her or hate her.

[Damaris]

No, the Beehive. Yeah, they want you dead.

[Rory]

They need an alibi. Anytime Jay Z goes outside. Yeah, he ups security after that shit for sure, bro.

[Mall]

I got multiple tweets in my phone. Screenshot it. Like when? Right before Renaissance came. Well, when Renaissance came out or something, it Was something she was advertising out album. Come on. And it was like everybody was tweeting and keep that off the album. Like they were. I'm like, yo, they treat him. You would think he wasn't the greatest rapper in the world. The way to be hype. Triji.

[Rory]

They don't care.

[Mall]

They can't stand that.

[Damaris]

That's just.

[Mall]

That is hilarious.

[Rory]

Yeah, but happy 10 years to. To a classic. Classic album. It's 2016. So it's gonna be 10 years for like six classics in 2026.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Yeah. They need. They need to somehow do a 201610 year anniversary. Something just something with all the albums.

[Mall]

When is when I need a. I need a. Just a concert just. Or a party where everybody just plays the 20002016 hits.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

When is views anniversary 2016. No, I mean the actual like month. I know it's 2016.

[Rory]

That was.

[Mall]

Let's just be friends.

[Rory]

Friends.

[Mall]

I don't care.

[AC from Austin]

This week,

[Rory]

man. We drove down to D.C. that day. That played for three days straight. Yeah, that. Yeah. Someone needs to do a 2016 concert at a party. SOBS or some.

[Mall]

Let's do a party. 2016 party. The 2000s. 2016. The Y2K 2016 party.

[Rory]

I'm. Listen, let's copyright it right now.

[Damaris]

This.

[Rory]

This makes it legally bonding. I'm down to. I'll hit SOBS tomorrow to see if we could do something. I think that would be fun. If we get two or three DJs, we like. Ryan wasn't born yet, so maybe he. Yeah, maybe he just carries the crates.

[Mall]

Yeah, for sure.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Ryan. Gotta sit that one up.

[Rory]

Just get like mall.

[Damaris]

Would you come to a 2016 party?

[Mall]

To a new Rory and Mall. 2016 party.

[Damaris]

Didn't know I wouldn't make it.

[Rory]

It's an easy flyer piece. You just put all the album covers from 2016 that are classics and yeah,

[Damaris]

it was pretty cool.

[Rory]

Sobs.

[Mall]

If you really want to do it. I know. I don't know if SOBS is the. If that's where you want to throw it, but I know a good DJ or two that would be good that.

[Rory]

The least of my worries is. Is DJs. No, I don't.

[Mall]

I mean for that specifically. For that year specifically.

[Rory]

Listen, man.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Just DJs that was outside DJing that

[Rory]

year when I met Kia for the first time. She said, you know, Austin Mills. So I'm like, I. I don't know.

[Damaris]

That's funny. Do we have voicemails?

[Mall]

We do.

[Damaris]

You've got mail.

[AC from Austin]

Yo, what's good? AC From Austin. Texas rapping question for Baby D and Rory. You know, I'm all saying this Iceman is going to be, like, undeniably one of the greatest. Like, you don't even know what's going to happen. Like, this album's gonna be great. And I love Drake, my favorite album. Drake is probably. And I think he has, like, three classics at least. But just on the. The album alone. Do you think if it's bad, are y' all gonna roast Mall like he did with Jaw with J. Cole? And I'm not. I'm not saying the J. Cole album was all that either, because, I mean, I liked it, but it wasn't like. Like, oh, my God. But, yeah. So let me know.

[Damaris]

What do you say? Are you gonna roast me if the album is whack?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Or if it. Even if it's not whack, if it does bad. No, because I think it's. I think that that's corny. I think. I'm not a hater. So I'm not.

[Rory]

I'm gonna say roast, but, I mean, I. I'm confident that it'll be a good album, but I'm gonna be objective. If I don't like it, I don't like it. Yeah, I'm. I'm. I'm going in thinking it's gonna be a good album.

[Mall]

Yeah. If I'm. I'll be objective. People might not believe my objection, but I'll be objective. Like we are with every other Drake album. It's good. Is good. I won't say if it's good as good. If we like it, we like it. Good is subjective. If we like it, we like it. If we don't, we don't. But I'm not gonna come in here like, ah, all that is ass. I'm not gonna do what he did to me with the fall off. I'm not gonna do that.

[Damaris]

But I didn't do that to you. I did that to you. I didn't do that to you. No, I did not.

[Rory]

What?

[Mall]

Oh, my gosh.

[Damaris]

I said damaris. That shit is.

[Mall]

You was like, that's hot, right? That's hot ass. They're like, don't, ma. Don't do that, bro no more.

[Rory]

Wasn't that harsh? But he wasn't kind of. That's your shit, right?

[Mall]

That one song, right? Shit ass. That's not what he did. All right.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

He didn't let you be miss 26 or anything? No.

[Damaris]

You wanted to be miss 26? My bad. I'm sorry.

[Mall]

Get the fuck out of here. I Couldn't just enjoy it. I was happy. I was enjoyed. I genuinely, genuinely like the album. Still play it, but. Nah, you did come in here. Oh, word. That's just right. Oh, ass.

[Rory]

That's all right. See, you can't misquote him that way. He did. He didn't say that. But again, he wasn't like, the camera's on.

[Mall]

I'm sorry. Okay.

[Damaris]

I didn't say that to you, Damaris.

[Mall]

Okay?

[Damaris]

That's all I'm saying.

[Mall]

All right, cool.

[Damaris]

I'm not saying I came in here and was Kumbaya with you and like, yeah, no, we're with you, baby. I didn't. I wasn't that. But I wasn't that harsh, though. I didn't. I didn't come at you like that. Okay, See, that's all. That's all I'm saying.

[Mall]

Okay?

[Rory]

It's okay if you don't want to answer these questions, but based off what he said, I think every artist, no matter how amazing they are, not every song that they make is incredible. A lot of stuff ends up on the cutting room floor. With all the music that Drake has sent you, has there been any records where you were just like, nah, not that one. Or has everything just been.

[Damaris]

No, it was. He. I heard a lot of early when I guess he was still in the recording process, like, ideas and things like that. But a lot of the times I don't want. I don't want to hear records if they're not done. Like, I don't want to hear records when you're still working on it.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Damaris]

But the one I heard, the records that I heard that are done are undeniable records.

[Rory]

Okay?

[Damaris]

Like, it's. It's just undeniable music. But a few songs that he sent me over the last year, two years, I'm pretty sure some of them he hasn't used because he's changed just off Conversations, he's changed the album a couple of times he recorded, and I guess that wasn't his energy or inspiration anymore and took a break and went on vacation, recorded some more. And, you know, so he had. He went through. He took his time with whatever the final Iceman album is, but he had. He had a few, I guess, rough albums where he thought this was the album or was this was going to be the album or this song was going to make the album that, you know, he completely went away from that and started creating different energy, different sounds, which I think a lot of artists, that's what they do a lot of times. So he's well, he is different, but it's no different in the process of being inspired by sound this week or next week. And then, you know, 40 might play something and you like, oh shit, like the whole motivation and the sound is just shifting now. So, you know. Yeah, so I've heard a couple songs that do just like rough drafts and just, you know, maybe just laid a hook on it. But you can always tell that if that was a song that he really decided like this was going to be on the album, it was going to be a great record.

[Rory]

Yeah. I mean, I assume that from the outside looking in when he was doing the streams and then stop. I thought we were getting the album because he was doing those streams like every two weeks or whatever and then just cut it. That's where I felt like, oh, he probably scrapped the album and just starting over. That was just my guess.

[Damaris]

But all right. Yeah.

[Rory]

Well, I hope that that accurately answered this gentleman's question. But yeah, honestly, I, I, if I don't like Iceman, I'm gonna say that

[Mall]

as you make sure if they, they want to know if you're gonna make fun of Maul people like, nah, I thought you said this was undeniable. I'm denying it.

[Rory]

I, I will come in here if that is the case, which again, I don't, I don't anticipate this album to be bad, but I will ask Maul the songs that he's talking about right now that he was sent. I want to know which ones those are right now that we're listening.

[Mall]

If you don't like it.

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah, I'd like to know which ones at that point, but I don't know. I, I just do hope it's not like 24 songs. That's where, where My fear I want for the first time a very concise. I know he has a bunch of genres and different fan bases he has to cover. Give me 14 records, bro.

[Mall]

That song gonna be 22 records.

[Rory]

Give me 14 records.

[Mall]

Please don't see it, don't say it.

[Rory]

16, maybe 18.

[Mall]

18, 20.

[Rory]

Because Drake has again the singing rap. Like, I don't think there's ever a world where you get like a 12 track Drake album. But 14 to me is a good sweet spot. I won't be mad at 14. 14 would be great.

[Mall]

I think it's, I think it's gonna be significantly longer.

[Rory]

I mean he's been working on it for a while, so that's where, that's where I'm a little, Got a lot to say.

[Damaris]

A lot to talk about.

[Rory]

Yeah, but Drake is one of those artists where I feel like him. Hov Fonte, they can say a lot in a little. Which I think is a crazy talent where you can get your whole point across in 16 bars, which is extremely difficult. I think Drake could still be concise with all the shit he has to say. He has that talent, which only a few rappers really have, where like, 32 is all it takes for me. I'll get my entire point across. Like, we don't need to address this again type of thing, so. Oh, man. Give me. Give me six Churchill down verses. Give me some for outside. Give me 1 or 2 r b hurt records. And I'm. I'm. I'm a happy, happy fan.

[Damaris]

There's a piggy, right?

[Rory]

I'm a happy fan. Do we have another voicemail or. That was it. That's it. Okay. Well. Yes. This was fun. End of the week, everyone's seeing the Michael movie.

[Damaris]

Michael movie tonight.

[Rory]

Russell Brand.

[Damaris]

Russell Brand.

[Rory]

Yeah. Shout out to Complex in their list.

[Damaris]

Everyone, shout out to Complex in their list.

[Rory]

Wait, when. When's the media. When. What month does the media list usually come?

[Mall]

Check.

[Rory]

Think they'll spite us this year?

[Mall]

Oh, we ain't making that list. Hold on.

[Rory]

No, once we get the drag interview, it's definitely happening. But around July. I mean, we. You have to make space for Nadeska and. And Frazier between the Cole and Jay Z interviews. Yeah, it's. It's that. That whole cold run is probably put people in the top 10.

[Mall]

Hear me out. Hey, man, when Drake drop, y' all better get to it. Say something.

[Rory]

Say so. No, I'm gonna, like. I'm gonna say something about it.

[Mall]

No, do something if you want to make the list. Yo, you want to make the media rankings list?

[Rory]

I said I'm May 14th. I'm down to fly to Toronto and try our luck. Maybe we'll run into him at a

[Damaris]

restaurant

[Rory]

and, like, Peach will have the mics in his backpack and we'll just go from there. Yeah, because that's. That's got to keep us on the list, man. I can be transparent. I know what time it is with these lists. We need. We need the moment.

[Damaris]

You scared?

[Rory]

I'm not. I'm not scared.

[Damaris]

Sound like you scared?

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Scared of lift. Yeah.

[Mall]

You don't got to worry about Karisha this year. So you'll be good.

[Rory]

Yeah. I mean, yeah, she's locked in at 7. She's probably locked in at 7 this year too. I mean, she just did Joe and Jada. That puts her at least at number 10, right? I know, but still, she stole the show. Anyways, this was fun. Everyone have a very, very safe weekend and we will see you next week.

[Damaris]

Be safe, be blessed. Peace.

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