Episode 519 | Dude Bombs

Summary

New Rory & Mal — Episode 519 | “Dude Bombs” Released: July 16, 2026 | Podcast: New Rory & Mal | Hosts: Rory & Mal, with Peach, Zip, Demaris, and guests

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Episode Overview

This episode balances signature banter, music industry breakdowns, and lively debates on accountability, relationships, pop culture, and jail reform. The crew takes on everything from Jay-Z and Dame Dash’s longstanding drama to unique etiquette about bodily functions at home, all while delivering their characteristic mix of jokes, real talk, and chemistry.

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Major Discussion Points & Key Insights

1. Jay-Z, Dame Dash & 'Reasonable Doubt': Revisiting Old Beef

(03:13–12:15)

• The crew dives into Dame Dash’s public criticism of Jay-Z and the recent “Reasonable Doubt” 30th anniversary celebrations.
• Key Take: There’s sadness and cynicism about Dame’s exclusion from key moments and his recent bitterness, contrasted with his deep historical role in Jay-Z’s career.
  • Peach (06:17): “To say ‘fuck Biggs’ like, to me was like, oh, he's completely—he's 62. Talking about he want to fight and all of that.”
  • The guys dissect Dame's contradictory stances (“He cares about Reasonable Doubt, obviously, but won’t admit it”) and his obsession with “verticals.”

2. Pharrell, Roots Picnic Freestyle, and the Jay-Z Stage Moment

(14:46–22:24)

• The infamous Pharrell remark (“They poked the bear, now the bear cut his hair”) at Jay-Z’s show is debated: Insult or friendly banter?
• Mall: (15:59) “It seemed like Pharrell was just around. And then Jay-Z cut him off to the point of like, hey, don't talk about the stuff that we talked about backstage.”
• The hosts agree: In-person, it felt light, but the online clip culture inflates tension.
• Everyone agrees modern “rap beef” gets too much attention and most attendees weren’t thinking about the Drake/Kendrick battle at the show.

3. Industry Power Moves & Special Guests: Jay-Z’s Pull in Hip-Hop

(24:49–27:35)

• They discuss Jay’s “superpower” of getting anyone he wants on stage: “If you can bring Michael Jackson to Summer Jam, you can get anybody” (25:25).
• Fat Joe and Jadakiss’s impromptu “I’m From New York” performance and Ja Rule’s absence from the show surface, leading to jokes about the power and last-minute chaos of hip-hop concerts.
• The behind-the-scenes vibe is highlighted: “I was looking at 75 rappers in the Ace of Spades Lounge,” marvels Mall (27:35).

4. Young Miami Exits BossMan DLo’s Tour: The Business of Music Moves

(35:48–42:15)

• Young Miami drops out of BossMan DLo’s co-headlining tour, likely due to her hit single “Spend That.”
  • Mall (37:02): “You guys are saying the price went up. I have to work this record. No, I'm not attached to your…No offense.”
  • The consensus: It’s business, not personal. Rising demand creates tough choices for artists. The right move is to capitalize on the record’s momentum.
• Debate: Is touring or focusing on solo promo better for working a big record?
  • Mall (39:41): “Locked into this specific Bossman DLo crowd… I need to be free to work the record.”
• The idea of Young Miami making a cameo at a J. Cole show sparks a debate about crossover audiences and festival crowds.

5. Concert Etiquette, Invitations, and Fan Hypersensitivity

(44:07–48:04)

• The group jokes about only attending shows if invited, riffing on exclusivity in rap communities and online fan expectations.
  • Mall: “It’s my rule. Don’t go where you’re not invited.” (48:01)
  • Peach playfully insists he could go anywhere, but the group agrees most big shows are “family and close friends” territory, with everyone else buying tickets.

6. Criminal Justice, Prison Life, and Accountability in the Community

(54:09–80:04)

• With reflection and gravity, the hosts shift into a nuanced debate about jail, crime, punishment, and the reality of the system for Black communities.
  • Zip (67:03): “I deliberately brought this gun outside…I went to see this man, bought drugs, broke it up, sold it. This is not a mistake.”
  • The theme: Accountability vs. Systemic Injustice. Players agree some people belong in prison for violence but push against harsh sentencing for petty crimes and drugs.
• Real stories about in-prison abuse, why “Free X” shirts are often superficial, and the trauma/practicality of life after incarceration.
• Mall (73:06): “Somebody sold weed—I don’t think they should be locked up. The way that Zip is explaining how people are locked up.”

7. Cheating, Choices, and Parallels with Crime

(80:08–81:46)

• Rory draws a humorous but thoughtful parallel between steps in committing a crime and steps in cheating: “If it takes 10 steps to make a mistake, it's not a mistake. It's a choice. The same thing.” (80:43)
• Peers reluctantly admit “cheating is a choice,” not a simple mistake.

8. Voicemail Advice: “I Think I’m No Longer Attracted to My Wife”

(86:43–97:47)

• Listening to a listener’s situation (wife stopped working, became verbally and physically abusive, lost attraction), the hosts give tough love:
  • Mall (88:34): “Love yourself more than you love your wife. Man, leave that relationship.”
  • Peach (93:10): “A woman putting your hands on you, to me, there’s no coming back from that.”
• Practical legal and emotional advice about leaving, the risks of waiting (“get out before you owe more alimony!” (96:10)), and why respect can’t be forced.

9. Bathroom & Relationship Etiquette: The Infamous “Dude Bombs” Segment

(104:54–110:18)

• The crew gets hilariously real about bodily functions in relationships, toilet etiquette, and the invention of “dude bombs” to prevent public embarrassment.
  • “If I got the dude bomb, you won’t mind taking a shit, like if you got a gun, you’re more likely…” jokes Peach (108:45).
• Tips from courtesy flushes to farting guidelines are debated—a signature slice of New Rory & Mal humor.

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Notable Quotes

• Mall, on Dame Dash:
  “Dana's not dumb. That’s Jay’s biggest fan. No, Jay is not Jay-Z without this nigga being the biggest fan.” [10:11]

• Rory, on the Pharrell banter:
  “I don’t think it’s that crazy. I just think it’s worth mentioning. Who’s 'all them?' I would assume everybody that he addressed in the Roots Picnic freestyle.” [16:17]

• Peach, on accountability:
  “I've never had a friend that was locked up and I said, free him. I've never done it. Because he really did that.” [67:39]

• Zip, on the logic of alimony:
  “The thought of spending any of mine on somebody that I see, you laying up with somebody else now...” [97:27]

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Segment Timestamps

• [03:13] — Main show start: Jay-Z, Dame Dash, and 'Reasonable Doubt'
• [14:46] — Pharrell’s “bear” comments at the Jay-Z show dissected
• [24:49] — The power of Jay-Z bringing special guests on stage
• [35:48] — Young Miami leaves BossMan DLo’s tour, career prioritization
• [44:07] — Concert etiquette: invites and rap community ‘cliques’
• [54:09] — Criminal justice, jail experiences, accountability in the culture
• [80:08] — Cheating and “mistakes”: stepwise choices
• [86:43] — Voicemail advice: when marriage loses respect
• [104:54] — The “Dude Bombs” segment: toilet humor and etiquette

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Episode Highlights / Memorable Moments

• “Dame Dash is Jay’s biggest fan” — affection mixed with critique [10:11]
• The debate about Pharrell’s intentions vs. internet reaction culture [16:17]
• “I only go where I’m invited” — recurring mantra on social life in the industry [48:01]
• Vivid, sometimes grim, but sobering inside look at prison realities and the myth of “mistakes” [67:03]
• Lighthearted but personal relationships advice for a listener in a toxic marriage [86:43]
• Hilarious, slightly juvenile deep dive on bathroom habits and solutions (dude bombs) [104:54]

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Tone Summary

Candid, irreverent, sometimes serious, often hilarious—this episode is a classic blend of thoughtful critique (especially around hip-hop icons and culture), grounded personal advice, and R-rated group chat energy.

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Who Should Listen?

• Hip-hop fans interested in behind-the-scenes dynamics (Jay-Z, Dame Dash, industry moves)
• Listeners who appreciate real discussions about community accountability and justice
• Anyone who loves irreverent but real talk about relationships, group chemistry, and culture

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End of Summary

Transcript

[Rory]

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[Mall]

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[Mall]

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[Rory]

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[Mall]

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[Peach]

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[Mall]

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[Peach]

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[Mall]

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[Zip]

No worry enough. No conductor.

[Mall]

Yo, why are you. Why are you flexing with your wife?

[Zip]

Why are you flexing with your wife? What is that you be talking about Aaliyah?

[Mall]

Bro, that was just a girlfriend for like a month.

[Zip]

Yeah, you be acting like y' all was like you was. Like you was madly in love. This been with this girl for 20 something years, bro.

[Mall]

It's the mother of his kids.

[Peach]

No, no, but that.

[Zip]

You've been with her 20 something years, bro.

[Peach]

But listen, I sat back and that's the first time I watched. Like, like, they know how you stay away from real. Like, I really stay away from a lot of the dame shit.

[Mall]

Just.

[Peach]

Cause it's. You know, I don't like to see him like that.

[Zip]

Like.

[Peach]

Cause it's just like. It's cringe. It's kind of like uncomfortable to see that shit.

[Zip]

But I was like, at this point, it's becoming like a little like.

[Peach]

No, but this now, like this. It's like. Cause it went. Because you got to remember it's going from. It was. Nobody cares about reasonable doubt, right? This was before the shows and then he just broke the city down then. Now it's like, yo, it's too many Yankee hats.

[Zip]

Nobody cares about you. But that's why he specifically said when he said it, none of these kids. Now you ask any of these kids, they don't care about reasonable doubts. I'm not into that. I would reply, ain't more kids than adults though. So who gives a. Yeah, it's just a certain. It's not more kids than adults.

[Mall]

No, I knew it was next level hater.

[Peach]

Are we recording? Oh, start the clock.

[Mall]

Oh, yeah. I knew it was next level haters. We'll get to the. Yo, why you evil? Like, why you with your wife? Because that's just. That's Chappelle show level hating skit. He said, why you do that in the Bronx? Our offices were in Manhattan. Yo, you're just grabbing at anything.

[Peach]

Yeah, it's bad.

[Mall]

He said, why would you do reasonable, Dottie? Yankee Stadium. Our office was in Manhattan.

[Peach]

Yeah, it's bad.

[Mall]

What the that got to do with anything?

[Zip]

Say, yo, the freestyle sounds like 96 a dumb. This is a 30 year commemoration.

[Peach]

He said he didn't want to see that came out.

[Zip]

What are you supposed to sound like? 26 right on a freestyle. He supposed to sound like 20 or 96. What would be, like, more fitting for the moment.

[Peach]

Then he said he didn't want to see Nas and Jay. Like, he'd rather see them still rap beefing. He don't want to see the Kumbaya. But I know Dame, if Jay was still beefing, it would be like, yo, you 60 years old.

[Mall]

Yo, it'd be cool if y' all were together.

[Zip]

Because he just said that. Nobody. He's 60 years. He said that in an interview probably two months ago. He's 60 years old. Nobody wants to see him beefing.

[Peach]

This is what I'm saying. So now it's just. It's just like when he put the first free.

[Zip]

When he put the free. The Roots, picnic freestyle. He's 60 years old. Nobody want to hear him beefing with nobody.

[Peach]

Exactly.

[Zip]

But now you want him and Nas to still be beefing.

[Peach]

Yeah, it's just.

[Zip]

You want to still be beefing? Cause you still beefing.

[Peach]

Cause you still beefing.

[Cal Penn]

Yeah.

[Zip]

Cause you still beefing.

[Peach]

Twenty years later, that's what it comes down to. Like, you still beefing, you still upset, you still angry?

[Cal Penn]

Like, yeah.

[Peach]

This is. This is the time when I've seen Dame say some things that I'm just like, you know, like, really, really, like, kind of disappointed and surprised that he's saying.

[Zip]

It surprises you at this point.

[Peach]

This is a different level, him saying. Him saying Biggs, I'm saying my brother.

[Mall]

That.

[Zip]

That was surprising.

[Peach]

That to me was like, now he's completely, like, completely going in a whole nother direction. Like, I. Cause, you know, you can't say that no matter how you feel about things that transpired, what happened. I get it. I understand. But to say that, like, the history that they have and, you know, the families have with each other, to say, fuck, Biggs, like, to me was like, oh, he's completely, like, he's 62.

[Zip]

Talking about he want to fight and all of that.

[Peach]

Yeah, yeah. It's just. It's sad to see because, you know, again, the whole, you know, Yankee Stadium shit, you know, two people that were. That obviously were missing that I. That I could see that was like, damn, like they should be. There was definitely Dame and Clark Kent. Yeah, obviously. Rest in peace, Clark Kent. But those are two. Two of the figures that, you know, them not being in any of the pictures or, you know, any of the videos and clips, like, at the show, to me was like, damn. You know what I'm saying?

[Zip]

Not for me, though, man. Not for me, man. I'm more mad. I ain't get to see, like, Lil Kim and Foxy Squash Nation and come out.

[Peach]

Well, Bleak said Foxy was there.

[Zip]

She was saying, why Kim and Foxy ain't come out. Do two songs now. I'm saying with Jay. You do two songs with Jay. You do the two you got with Jay.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Zip]

Then y' all do Brown Chrome doubts to tear the spot down for Brooklyn. You know what I'm saying? Put off for the city. I don't want to see Dane with Jay no more after what Dame just said about Jay, bro.

[Peach]

No, no, no. Of course I'm saying. I'm saying it's just. Just not seeing him in that moment. Everything aside that he said and done over the years, I'm saying, like, it was just in that moment. Not seeing that was like. It was kind of like a reality. Like, damn. Like, a lot has changed. A lot. Such a big part of this are no longer around, you know, whatever reason

[Zip]

I like Dame, man, but Dame is crazy, man. Dame said nobody give a fuck about reasonable doubt, man. So I'm glad I didn't see you around none of all of them festivities, man. Motherfuckers was enjoying themselves.

[Peach]

The irony that is. Dame cares about reasonable doubt.

[Zip]

Yes, he do. Because the nigga told you there's nothing

[Mall]

wrong with caring about reasonable doubt.

[Zip]

Wait, look, look. Put this in perspective. A nigga told you I will give you the whole label Rockefeller in its entirety. Give me reasonable doubt back.

[Cal Penn]

Yeah.

[Zip]

Nigga said, nah, that's my first project.

[Demaris]

Yeah.

[Peach]

So obviously he cares.

[Mall]

I think Dane liked everything he saw.

[Peach]

He did.

[Mall]

Cause what he's grasping at in this last clip of, like, yo, Beyonce cutting his hair with no mirrors. Like, what are we doing now? You're grabbing at any. To me, you liked everything you saw, but you can't get yourself to say you liked it. And that's exactly how you would have done it. So now you have to grasp at absolute straws. Like, why you doing it in the Bronx?

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mall]

How come Beyonce don't got a mirror?

[Zip]

Yeah, I think.

[Mall]

What are we. What are we talking about?

[Zip]

The key there is everything. The watched everything.

[Mall]

Oh, yeah.

[Zip]

The saw it all.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Zip]

I don't watch people I don't like.

[Peach]

Yeah. The.

[Zip]

That I don't like. I couldn't tell you everything going on.

[Mall]

That's what I'm saying.

[Zip]

You know more about what this did. I didn't see everything. Yeah, I seen a clip here, clip there. You saw every Dame talked about every

[Mall]

dame's favorite word now, because I watch all The Dame. His favorite words now is. Is. Is the verticals. You have verticals. You have to massage the verticals.

[Zip]

Yeah, the vertical.

[Mall]

Yeah, yeah. He love an algorithm.

[Zip]

Algorithm.

[Peach]

You love a vertical.

[Mall]

And mind you, Dame is right when he says verticals, he just uses it a little too much. But, yes, if you have a business, you should find the verticals that go with it. So income coming in everywhere. So why on earth would you look at Jay, who owns part of Fanatics, which owns part of Michelin F. Yeah. And go, man, why you selling Michelin S jerseys? Yeah, I don't know, Dame. Maybe it's a vertical. You keep fucking talking about it.

[Peach]

Yeah, well, he probably doesn't know that.

[Mall]

No, he said it in there. He said, I know Jay is with fanatics.

[Peach]

Oh, so then, yeah, he know.

[Rory]

He knows everything.

[Zip]

He knows everything, bro.

[Mall]

Dana's not dumb.

[Zip]

That's Jay's biggest fan. No, Jay is not Jay Z without this nigga being the biggest fan. He believed in Jay before anybody else. Jazzo did not believe in Jay Z like Dame Dash did. Respectfully. Big Daddy came, Memphis Bleak Tata. None of them believed in Jay Z like Dame Dash.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Zip]

Yeah. And it's clear that this still. Yeah, he's salty, man. I heard him say. He said he was bitter.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Which is fine. Just be bitter with, like, accurate.

[Peach]

Right.

[Mall]

Don't. Don't grasp it the way you're doing it now.

[Zip]

I don't like the fact that he'd be talking about the. Like, he know him.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Zip]

You don't know that.

[Peach]

You spent more years not being away from the.

[Zip]

Than y' all was together. Like. And. And like, not just not cool, like, despising each other probably. So if y' all was together for 10 years, cool. It's been 20 years where y' all hated each other. You don't know that man no more. I don't be trying to talk about his relationship with his wife. By the time he got with her, you was on the way out the door.

[Cal Penn]

Yeah.

[Zip]

You don't really know how he give it up with that girl, because.

[Mall]

What Rockefeller.

[Zip]

040405. They sold that December 04.

[Colin Coward]

Yeah.

[Zip]

That's around the time he was with B for like a year.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

You don't know that person anymore.

[Zip]

You don't know.

[Mall]

You don't know them.

[Zip]

You don't know how he is together. You don't know them as a couple or none of that. You've never been around them like that.

[Peach]

I mean, it's just.

[Zip]

You don't know that, man. As a father. None of that.

[Peach]

It's very telling. Like, I don't think that Jay despises Dame, but I do. I do think Dame despises Jay.

[Zip]

I think, nah, you gotta despise a. That be saying, sir, the talking about you like that, like, for no reason.

[Peach]

But I think Jay understands where it's coming from. That's why he don't take it. I don't think. That's why. I don't think he takes it as he doesn't despise Dame. I don't think he'll ever obviously, be in the same space he was once with Dame. I think we all know that. But I think Jay despises Kanye for the things Kanye has said. Like Dame. Dame's thing is stemming from a different thing. He's just mad he's still not around on the business end, and it's a lot of that. But Kanye stepped across lines that there's no coming back from him. You start talking about people's kids and things like that, there's no coming back from that. Dame hasn't done that.

[Zip]

Well, you start talking about a wife is the same, though.

[Peach]

What he say about. I don't know.

[Zip]

I mean, I don't know if he said nothing like.

[Peach]

Yeah, I don't think he said

[Zip]

bringing his wife up and all that. And this wife.

[Peach]

Yeah, I don't think.

[Mall]

I don't think it's why he bring.

[Zip]

Why would he have his wife with him? Cutting. Why has he got his wife with him?

[Peach]

Right.

[Zip]

I think that's corny. Yeah, I think it's corny, him having his wife with him.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Zip]

Why would he do that?

[Mall]

And on top of that, imagine all he does is talk about family and how important family is. Yeah, I like what. I like what Damon and his wife do.

[Peach]

I think that's.

[Mall]

That's cool how they're business partners and everything that they put out books together.

[Zip]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Like, why is it cool when you do it?

[Zip]

That's the girl you'd be rapping with.

[Peach]

No, no, no, no, no, no.

[Zip]

Because I was about to stop.

[Peach]

That's not his.

[Mall]

Would you battle? Would you battle, Nikki?

[Zip]

No, no.

[Mall]

She got it. Yeah.

[Zip]

You ever see Told Cam?

[Demaris]

What?

[Peach]

She told what? That's what she said.

[Zip]

Check that shit out. You remember she told Ken.

[Peach]

Oh, my God. We are back. Sponsored by Boost Mobile Unlimited. Talk texting data. Baby D was good. You all right? Low under the weather.

[Rory]

Low under the weather. I'm still here to, you know, talk shit to you niggas. Talk about the weather.

[Peach]

You Be all right. Get some soup.

[Zip]

Get sick every day. B. Yeah.

[Peach]

You know what I'm saying? Get you some soup, some tea. You know what I'm saying? You be all right.

[Rory]

Thank you for the sympathy. I appreciate it. We're real friends.

[Peach]

I mean, you know, somebody use tickets.

[Mall]

You'll be all right.

[Peach]

Somebody sent me a. Some opposed to send Rory. It was like a. I had a stroke bear. Like a little, like, meme or something like that.

[Mall]

She sent that to me as well.

[Peach]

She did it. I was like, damn, I forgot to send it to Rory. Like I said, I try.

[Mall]

I try to send it to Damaris to say if you're my secret Santa, but I. Am I blocked now or something? No, I can't send DMs to you.

[Rory]

No, you're not blocked.

[Mall]

Oh, you gotta.

[Peach]

What you did, baby.

[Rory]

D. I ain't block him.

[Peach]

Restricted. You put your restrictions on. No, he was still in comments on your. On your stories.

[Rory]

If it was. If it was restrictions, he would still be able. He would still be able to leave it. I just wouldn't see it. I'd have been like, damn, what you talking about? I don't know. Did you try to send it on the new Rory and all Instagram or poss.

[Mall]

That.

[Rory]

Oh, okay, my bad. But you text it to me. We're friends.

[Mall]

That was too much work.

[Zip]

All right.

[Mall]

It was right on Instagram.

[Rory]

But it was a little bear that said, oh, my God, I had a stroke. Squeeze me or something.

[Mall]

I survived a stroke and I had, like, a ribbon.

[Peach]

I survived a stroke and it had a.

[Mall]

Well, it wasn't a bear. It's a brain. I thought it was a bear at first.

[Peach]

Oh, it's a brain.

[Mall]

Stuffed brain.

[Rory]

That's.

[Mall]

I thought it was a bear until I really looked at it.

[Peach]

Okay.

[Mall]

Brain.

[Peach]

Oh, it's a brain, all right.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Did your. Did your brain forget to bring up that Pharrell comment that was at the show? You didn't tell me about that. I went home and had to see that Internet. Like, how you leave this out of the.

[Mall]

Said, I didn't think it was like, that crazy. That's why it wasn't, like, a high priority for me. After the. The second Pharrell set on night three. After the clips came out, Pharrell closed out by saying they poked the bear. Now the bear cut his hair. I don't know. I just felt like it wasn't as. As crazy in person as people made it seem on the Internet. Like, it kind of felt in person like Pharrell was just around. And then Jay Z cut him off to the point of like, hey, don't talk about the stuff that we talked about backstage.

[Rory]

I hope you kill. I hope you kill Autumn. Y' all know who I'm talking about.

[Peach]

For real, who you talking about?

[Rory]

I'm just saying, Rory's like, I don't think it's that crazy.

[Mall]

I didn't think it was worth mentioning. I didn't feel that way watching it in person, that Pharrell was being that serious. I can see when you clip it and put it into Drake's Internet that it could be the craziest thing you've ever heard in your entire. I could see this being Summer jam screen takeover to the Drake algorithm. In person, I'm saying how I felt watching it. It seemed like Pharrell was fucking around. It was like light in the air at that time. Nobody was like, oh, what did Pharrell just say? Everyone laughed. And then we moved on to drunken love. Like, it wasn't really.

[Rory]

I mean, I don't think. I don't think it's that crazy. I just think that it's. It's worth mentioning who's all them. I would assume everybody that he addressed in the Roots Picnic freestyle.

[Mall]

I don't think it's just rappers. I just think it's in general. This whole like, well, I hope you

[Rory]

kill Autumn is definitely rap. Really?

[Zip]

When you say, you know what I'm talking about, he don't mean, we gotta

[Mall]

guess what you mean. Roc Nation is suing bloggers. Like, yeah, no, it's everybody.

[Rory]

No, I don't think it's when he says, you poked a bear, not a bear. Cut his hair. He got on his helmet. Talking about his Yankee cap. Now he about to go to war. I hope he kill Autumn. He's talking about.

[Mall]

He just said it specific. That's not how Pharrell said it. It was such a light hearted moment.

[Rory]

He's talking about.

[Mall]

You guys could say I'm being naive or whatever. I'm telling you in person, it felt that way.

[Zip]

It didn't land the way he wanted it. He said, Gordo.

[Rory]

Gordo wore Pharrell's chain on Instagram. Is that confirmed?

[Peach]

Oh, yeah, yeah, the nerd chain.

[Mall]

If I. If I was friends with Drake, I would ask to wear the nerd chain. I love nerd. If I could DJ with a set and I knew Drake, I'd be like, yo, let me hold the Pharrell chain for the day. 100.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Peach]

I just think all of this is just a little ridiculous. At this point.

[Mall]

All right.

[Peach]

What this?

[Mall]

Oh, no, it's definitely ridiculous. I agree with you, though.

[Peach]

What are we doing, bro? Yeah, rat beef, not rap beef. Because I think you can always need a certain type of, you know, just competitive energy in rap. But, like, all this little, you know, no music playing, Pharrell talking about, yo, kill all them for you, Pharrell, dog. Like, what we. Pharrell, just chill. Do your Louis thing. Give us some great beats. You know what I'm saying? Like, it ain't. That energy shouldn't be coming from Pharrell.

[Mall]

Well, all right. Pharrell was involved. And please, we don't have to get back to that. But Pharrell has been involved in this entire thing that has turned the world into this odd chaos that we're in now. That I agree, has gone too far. It's getting weird. Pharrell was heavily involved. He was a focus point in that battle.

[Zip]

I get it.

[Mall]

He was brought up on every goddamn disc.

[Rory]

And even. Even outside of the battle, shit. Like, if my. When you went the same little energy, little mama felt like when my homeboy going off, like, I feel the energy. Everybody here, everybody backstage. We've been drinking for 12 hours, waiting for security to get in touch. Like, now I'm on stage, I'm feeling myself. Like, yeah, I hope my kill Autumn. Like, you talking about, like, I don't think it was planned. I think it's just, like, feeling the energy.

[Mall]

You could see hoes face.

[Peach]

It wasn't the energy.

[Mall]

He stopped Pharrell from going first.

[Peach]

That wasn't good energy, though. That was the energy in the building. Well, I wasn't there, but I wasn't there.

[Mall]

I can assure you it was not.

[Peach]

That was not the end of it.

[Mall]

Not one person, and I mean this respectfully, not one person was talking or thinking about Drake or Kendrick or anybody that wasn't thinking about Dame. Wasn't thinking about anybody.

[Peach]

He said that was not the energy. Pharrell said that because that probably was on his mind. But here's the thing about all. Is you telling Jay to kill all. You rap too, nigga,

[Zip]

come on.

[Peach]

He don't peach that, please.

[Mall]

He can.

[Peach]

He don't. I'm asking for this for real, Rat.

[Mall]

Yes.

[Peach]

Okay.

[Demaris]

You see these?

[Zip]

Nice. See these ice creams? He rats.

[Peach]

Yeah, the same. But, yeah, all of that. The same way he did all of that. You kill them too.

[Zip]

The interior. Yeah, yeah.

[Mall]

Don't do that. Because if Pharrell came out and did this record, you'd sit on this couch and be like, for a while, the

[Rory]

same thing you just did. You would be like, the same thing

[Peach]

I'm doing about him telling ho It'll kill all them. That's. To me, that's corny.

[Mall]

I just think we're all overthinking it a bit. And it was. It was a sp moment.

[Peach]

Yeah. But he said.

[Mall]

Everyone's gonna say he put that energy out there, though.

[Peach]

He put that energy out there on. On what was supposed to just be a night of just celebrating Hov and everything he's done in the last 30 years. You brought that energy to the stage. You said those things. Jay never alluded to nothing. He did.

[Zip]

Hov is on stage with a bulletproof vest, man.

[Peach]

That's 96. Hov.

[Zip]

That's J. I just. How we feeling? Nine, six, kill them.

[Peach]

Nah, nah, nah. You looking.

[Zip]

Hov was taking shots at in nine, six, man. This is the energy.

[Peach]

Did he take shots in 20, 26 stage?

[Zip]

Yes.

[Rory]

Not on this stage, but he.

[Zip]

He had a whole freestyle.

[Peach]

He didn't go at nobody in the freestyle.

[Zip]

He went at.

[Peach]

He went at people talking about the target sellout.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Zip]

He shot at funk master flex when talking about. They talking about Colin cap and. Yeah, that's a shot at flex.

[Mall]

Funk master flex got an allegiance to flex.

[Zip]

What?

[Peach]

Yeah, like, nah, he did, bro. That wasn't the energy, bro. That wasn't the end. That wasn't the stage for that. For Pharrell to say that ever since

[Zip]

he popped out looking like one of the bone thugs. That's the energy, homie. He set the tone with that. Y' all ain't gonna change the ambiance. He's out there with a bulletproof vest on. He came out looking like easy eating them. Set the tone in Philly. Now I'm in New York.

[Peach]

Bulletproof. So. So you. Are you. Are you in some type of alignment with what Pharrell said, Thinking that Jay is preparing to go at.

[Zip]

Because I don't think that's why. I don't think that's why. I think that's why he cut him off.

[Peach]

I don't think so.

[Rory]

I don't think so.

[Peach]

I think he cut him off because he like, yo, come on.

[Mall]

He cut him off one because you could tell Pharrell hadn't planned on what he was saying. It was not like some lucid thought that Pharrell had thought about all week. He was gonna say. It was in the moment. He was rambling. He was trying to think of what to say.

[Zip]

He was drunk.

[Mall]

I don't think he Was drunk, but it was.

[Peach]

He was drunk in love off the

[Mall]

top of his head.

[Zip]

And they play drunken love.

[Mall]

Like the way. The way Demer said it is not how Pharrell said it.

[Zip]

It took play drunken.

[Rory]

I added spice.

[Mall]

He was drunk in love.

[Zip]

He was drunk, bro.

[Mall]

Okay, yeah.

[Zip]

Let's just talk it about him drinking.

[Peach]

It is what it is.

[Rory]

I don't want to put that out because I don't know if he drink. I don't know if Pharrell drink. Like, I don't want to put it out.

[Mall]

Has had a better.

[Zip]

That's the rich drug of choice.

[Peach]

Alcohol.

[Zip]

Yes.

[Peach]

Yeah. Champagne.

[Rory]

I mean, that's the poor drug of choice for sure. Like, what.

[Mall]

It's a different opportunity.

[Peach]

It's a different shell for alcohol.

[Zip]

No, I'm saying. But I'm saying, like, you got poor. Poor that smoke crack, sniff some hair rod and all that. Like the rich drug of choice.

[Peach]

Alcohol, alcohol, spirits and cocaine.

[Zip]

But, yes, there's no smart. There's no. Some coke, too. Yeah, yeah.

[Mall]

But yes, Hov cut for off because he was going nowhere with his rant. He was like, all right, for us, that's enough. Like, go ahead.

[Peach]

And I think he cut him off

[Mall]

that he was making.

[Peach]

Yeah, I think he cut him off, too, because that doesn't align with what Jay got in store.

[Mall]

Like, I agree.

[Rory]

I'm over here.

[Peach]

Nobody, bro. Like, I'm 60 years old. My. Like, what the you like. I'm not doing that.

[Mall]

Another naive thought, and this is only because Roseberg, Ero and Laura. Well, not all of them, but Rosenberg said Maul didn't go to the. The Yankee stadium show because he's riding with Drake.

[Peach]

Who said that?

[Mall]

Rosenberg. He was joking around. He said it today.

[Zip]

Rosenberg. Y' all talking about them. I heard that.

[Mall]

I don't think Drake and Jay Z have that big of an issue.

[Peach]

They don't.

[Mall]

Like, I really. Maybe I'm naive. I don't think they have an issue.

[Peach]

No. I mean, obviously, Drake feels a way about Jay giving Kendrick the super bowl show to platform that message. Obviously, naturally, as he would. Jay would feel away if, again, like I said before, if it was Nas And Jay and Dr. Dre gave Nas the Super bowl show to get ether off. Jay would feel away towards Dr. Dre. It's just a natural thing. But Drake is not sitting back beefing in his mind and preparing to go at Jay. That's not. No, bro. It's not that you can feel away about something somebody did. And it just be that, like, I didn't like that move. I didn't like what you did, but it's not a beef. It's not a. When I see you, you know, it's an issue. I'm not getting in the booth, going at you. It's not. He said what he said on Iceman shot. That's the rap shit. Yeah, that's regular rap shit. And I came on here and was like, is that really a shot? I was like, the jig is up. Okay, if y' all want to call it a shot. Cool. I grew up in a different time of rap. To me, a shot then and a shot now. It's two different shots y' all call it.

[Zip]

Why you say that?

[Mall]

Drake did what Jay did. His career subliminals me.

[Zip]

Exactly.

[Peach]

It was.

[Zip]

It was a little Throwing subliminals back in the days.

[Peach]

Yeah, but.

[Mall]

Oh, was it to me that.

[Peach]

But I didn't look at.

[Zip]

Sneaking in the back door. Nobody knew he was talking about ll. Right.

[Peach]

But what I'm saying is I didn't feel like I know how to OG. Y' all know how. The OGs is rocking already. My. The jig is up. I didn't feel like that was a shot at Jay. Was he talking about Jay? Okay, I could see that. But when you say it's a shot,

[Zip]

I get what you're saying.

[Peach]

You know what I mean? It's just a little different. It's just like. I get it, but it's not. It didn't just feel as a shot to me. You know what I'm saying? But.

[Mall]

But I only said that to say. Cause Rosenberg jokingly said, we know you didn't go to HO because you're riding with ovo. I don't think there's a world where Maul goes to the Jay Z show and Drake feels away about it.

[Peach]

Yeah, like, that's what I'm saying. Like, that's just. And I don't fuck.

[Zip]

Yeah.

[Peach]

I don't fuck with Rosenberg. That's my guy. I fuck with Rosenberg. But. But, like, come on, man. Like, that's just. It's a slow news day. Is that what it is?

[Colin Coward]

Yes.

[Peach]

Okay. All right, I get it. If that's what you want to create, go ahead.

[Rory]

Quick question. There were some things that I saw online about the potential of this happening. Would you be surprised if Jay bought out Kendrick for a Bitch Don't Kill My Vibe remix in la?

[Mall]

In la, I could see him bringing Kendrick out, but not to do Bitch Don't Kill My Vibe remix. Okay, I like Jay on that, but that remix wasn't like a. A, A thing.

[Peach]

I tell you all the time. Jay's. One of Jay's superpowers is that anybody he calls and asks to come out, they show up.

[Demaris]

Yeah.

[Peach]

Even like, Jeezy canceled his own residency in Vegas.

[Mall]

Even if you're four hours late.

[Zip]

Yeah.

[Peach]

You know what I'm saying? Like, he, you know, that's just the power of Jay. Like, he called, he brought. Again, he brought Michael Jackson to Summer Jam. If you can bring Michael Jackson anywhere, that's like, you can get anybody to come.

[Zip]

That's what I'm saying. So Fat Joe and Jadakiss doing. I'm from New York with no Ja Rule there.

[Mall]

Job was in Vegas.

[Zip]

Jeezy had a residency in Vegas. I just said this. What are you talking about?

[Mall]

They could have split a plane.

[Zip]

Hello, this is Jay Z. Yeah, John

[Mall]

and Hope could have done a couple joints.

[Zip]

Can I get a you?

[Mall]

That would have been crazy.

[Zip]

Yeah, he could, like, yeah, Ja Rule's not included in this. Somewhere 50, smiling. Yeah, he's watching this dude. The part of the song he probably like.

[Mall]

Something also is a part of the

[Zip]

song you probably like.

[Mall]

I don't think this is true, but one could maybe assume, too, that Fat Joe showed up to night three and was like, nah, I'm getting on that stage, yo. Nah, fit me in for, like, 30 seconds right there.

[Rory]

J and Br, when it comes, as anal as they're as they are with this.

[Peach]

Yeah, no, I definitely feel like during the delay, it was a lot of time backstage with conversations and. And I'm sure I could see that being thrown in last minute. Like, yeah, Jay just trying to fill out the set, have, you know, guests on stage. She had a stage with other artists and shit like that. I could see that. When he did the. The Best of Both Worlds tour in the Garden, and when R. Kelly did that bullshit and left the arena and all that, like, that's what Jay did. Everybody. Usher was there, TI Was there. All these niggas is backstage. Jay put together that set, like, in 10 minutes. Was like, yo, you gonna do a couple joints? You do a couple joints? Like, I could see that happening at Yankee Stadium. Like, yo, fuck it, you wanna rock? Y' all wanna come on, like, Google right there, Queue up the. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, that's how sometimes. But again, that's the power of Jay. Like, everybody's here anyway. We all backstage sipping, talking shit, laughing. Yo, what's up, nigga? You wanna come rock? Like, all right, come on. Come do a joint or Two, like, it's just. It's a New York moment. New York rappers with Kiss and Joe. Yeah, come on. Like, he has history with them. He has business dealings with them now and shit like that. Like, so, yeah, y' all come on, like, share the stage. Like, we get y' all shit off real quick.

[Mall]

I was mad during the delay. Cause I was looking at 75 rappers in the Ace of Spades Lounge.

[Rory]

Why you niggas not up there opening?

[Mall]

I see yo Gotti, Jim Jones, Fab, my son Division. I'm like, yo, go up there and croon. Yeah, like, croon.

[Zip]

Get the people going.

[Mall]

Yeah, there's entertainers everywhere. Someone get a microphone and entertain these people.

[Rory]

Yeah, they should.

[Mall]

Yo, Zip. I was. I had heard you rap before, but I was unfamiliar. That new freestyle you put out was fire.

[Zip]

That is not new.

[Mall]

Okay?

[Zip]

It is mad old. Well, I just put it up. I just put it up again.

[Peach]

Just to remind

[Zip]

there's places up there for you. Yeah, keep acting bad.

[Mall]

But you're doing.

[Peach]

But you're doing that the one and want it and you like, what's up? Like, what you going? When you gonna, like, drop some though,

[Zip]

though, man, we on Netflix and all. I just keep that to myself right now.

[Peach]

What you mean, though?

[Rory]

This.

[Peach]

Who you supposed to talk to?

[Mall]

The people.

[Peach]

I let them know, like, what you mean?

[Zip]

Like, I. I was talking to somebody about doing some and all that. You know what I mean? But I don't be liking to talk about until, like, I did some already and it's like, all right, well, you can't, like, yeah, stop.

[Peach]

But you are planning on putting out music, though, like, all your unreleased perhaps. I think you should, man. Why not?

[Mall]

Got the MP3s.

[Peach]

Yeah, yeah, put that out. People want to hear that. I do. I want to hear a lot of this. Like, I've heard some of it. I'm. I haven't heard all your. But like, definitely, like, I definitely want to be able to just go on my phone and just pull up some zip. Maybe to laugh and text you and talk some, like, out of here. Bum ass. I heard that line. Like, you wasn't out there. You wasn't in Sing Sing. Holding the gate down out of here,

[Zip]

like, you know, like, yo, I don't know if. I ain't gonna lie. I don't know if nobody never, like, was nicer than me rapping.

[Peach]

Nobody. In all the spots you've been in, nobody was better than you.

[Rory]

Off, like, freestyling or off written, you know, Everybody got their specialties.

[Zip]

Nah, I'm saying that freestyling is whack to me. Like, if you off the top, you ain't gonna really be talking about nothing. This is gonna be mad random. That is kind of trash to me.

[Peach]

Yeah. It's a select few that could do that. Yeah. I don't want to hear anybody.

[Cal Penn]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Zip]

That is like, chances are you're gonna be saying anything. I mean, but I heard nice and all that I might say, yo, that nigga make better songs than me.

[Peach]

Right?

[Zip]

I know. Like that.

[Demaris]

That.

[Zip]

But just better than me rapping to my bars.

[Peach]

Just bar for bar.

[Rory]

All right.

[Zip]

And I got songs too, though. Like, so we can hang. But I. I like, on a lot. I'll be like, oh, that's that right there.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Zip]

I'm saying.

[Mall]

Yeah, well, that. That freestyle, I'm telling you, sounds jail. Yeah. It didn't sound like it was some old. That you posted.

[Rory]

Yeah, that is old saying your aging gracefully. Yo, they giving you compliments, Zip. When I walked in, when I walked in, for real, I had a headache. And it didn't make my headache worse. I was like, oh, this Zip. Like, he not asked.

[Peach]

He didn't make my head.

[Rory]

Some ass rapping friends like you, not one of them like you.

[Demaris]

You.

[Zip]

I appreciate that.

[Rory]

No problem.

[Mall]

Zip don't know how to take compliments.

[Rory]

That's what.

[Mall]

That's what I'm starting.

[Rory]

He got mad uncomfortable.

[Mall]

It's cool.

[Peach]

I'm not good at you.

[Mall]

That I understand.

[Zip]

I said, I appreciate that. I wasn't supposed to say that.

[Rory]

You supposed to, like, blush and be like, oh, damn, for real? Like, how could I. How could I be better? Like, what you like about it?

[Mall]

How could I be better?

[Peach]

How could I be better?

[Mall]

I don't know how to take compliments either, so I'm not here to even try to say what it is, but.

[Rory]

But got bashful. I love that Zip.

[Demaris]

Keep going.

[Peach]

That's bashful Zip.

[Rory]

Bashful zip.

[Zip]

That's crazy.

[Mall]

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[Peach]

That's exactly why it is proving that

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[Rory]

You gonna go on tour with boss man dlo cuz young Miami left that high and dry? Allegedly.

[Zip]

What he can't hold it down by himself.

[Rory]

So boss Mandelo has postponed his tour because Young Miami has got. He said it was due to Young Miami unexpectedly leaving. And some people are assuming that because of young Miami's recent. Most recent hit, there's a chance the price might have went up. We don't have that confirmed. We just have confirmed that he has to postpone the tour, and it's because she can't do it anymore. But a lot of people are assuming that her price done went up.

[Mall]

Were they co headlining or, like, she was opening for him?

[Rory]

I think she might have been, like, kind of opening. I don't know if it was co headlining.

[Peach]

No, I think it was cool. And Young Miami Motion party tour. Yeah. So she's on the. And it says special guest battle.

[Zip]

A lot of dates, too.

[Peach]

Yeah. So maybe she. I mean, it could be. I mean, that's not people thinking because, you know, obviously she has a record that's, you know, doing well on the charts right now. That's, you know, doing. Taking off. That could be part of it, but it could be other things. Like maybe, you know, she wants to support that record more and do other things. That is a lot of dates to. To commit to.

[Mall]

We know what it is. It's because of that record.

[Zip]

Yeah. Took off.

[Mall]

It's everything. You guys are saying the price went up. I have to work this record. No, I'm not attached to your. No. No offense. And for. For boss man dlo. I don't know if I'd want to follow Spin that every night.

[Zip]

Right? You follow every night.

[Peach]

So his record is that motion party, right?

[Zip]

Yeah. He got buddies for the last two, three years. He been putting out big songs. He got big songs. But still coming now at this time. It might be a good thing.

[Mall]

Yeah, I. I wouldn't take that personal. I would understand.

[Peach]

Yeah. That's 37 on the Hot 100.

[Zip]

But Miami is. Is higher than that.

[Peach]

It might be right now.

[Rory]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Mall]

Even if it's not, she might have.

[Peach]

She might have cracked top 25, top 30, maybe.

[Rory]

Yeah, it's. It's big.

[Peach]

Number 17, top 20.

[Rory]

Do y' all think that she's wrong for that?

[Peach]

No, it's business. It's business.

[Mall]

Well, I mean, if she signed some and said she was gonna do it, then you're wrong if you're not honoring your contract. But I see them, I totally get the move. I was on her team.

[Zip]

I would say you should probably definitely sign something. If they was already at this stage, though.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

I'm saying, well, if she went behind the scenes and did it respectfully of.

[Peach]

Yeah. She had a conversation with him and his team. Like, yo, listen. Then I could see, you know, dlo and I'm understanding that. Like, yo, listen, I get it. Number 17 right now.

[Mall]

Yeah, go work the record.

[Peach]

You gotta go work that record. Like, you know what I'm saying? And then it's probably some pressure to even, you know, obviously the game is different now, but they. It might be some pressure to probably put out a project coming off of this shit.

[Rory]

She said a project. Like, it's coming.

[Peach]

Yeah. So she. You know what I'm saying? There might be a lot of that.

[Zip]

Where's the tour right now?

[Peach]

Yeah, a tour is a big commitment. You know what I'm saying? You go on the road and would

[Zip]

you do half of the dates instead? Me, like, I was locked in for all of them. I'd do half of them.

[Mall]

I would do exactly what she did. I'd get off that tour.

[Peach]

I gotta do what's best for me. You know what I'm saying? It's not personal. It's business. You know what I'm saying? So you gotta do what's best for yourself as an artist. So if that's what's best. If her team felt like, listen, we can't commit to these dates. We got a lot of shit we gotta do. And the label was asking, we gotta get a project going or record it and try to get something out in the next couple of months. Then you gotta do what you gotta do. You know what I'm saying? It is what it is.

[Mall]

It's just fucked up that. That led to him having to postpone the tour.

[Peach]

Yeah, that's the inconveniencing it all. He has to now postpone the tour. But that's.

[Mall]

But he's not big enough to do a solo tour.

[Zip]

That's what I asked him this.

[Rory]

I mean, a lot of people. That's not a slight to him. Most people aren't big enough to do a solo. We've had that conversation.

[Mall]

Like, people are of a slight. I think he's big enough to do a solo tour is what I'm saying.

[Demaris]

What's a better way to work a record?

[Rory]

So pe. Just bringing up the point. And this is something I thought about too. What's a better way to work a record than a tour?

[Mall]

On your own.

[Rory]

On your own.

[Mall]

It's mine. This is my show. Because now it's.

[Rory]

You have. So it's a bunch of free footage. Peaches. Bringing up that. It's a bunch of free footage of her performing it. Right. So, yes.

[Mall]

Locked into this specific bossman DLO crowd. Those cities, it's not. I need to be free to work the record. I see it spiking in a certain place. I'm gonna go to that place. Like, I don't have free to react to where the record needs to be.

[Peach]

It's a lot of verticals, Rory. A lot of different verticals that she

[Mall]

has to go to Dame's country club to work the record.

[Rory]

A video needs to be. A video needs to be shot. Shot. Like potentially a remix. Like, there's all types of.

[Mall]

She needs to work.

[Rory]

It's mainly working on the album, I think Peach. Like, it's mainly the.

[Peach]

Let's finish that momentum into the album out for sure. Huh? No, I mean, you had a. A song that's number 17 on the Hot 100. It has. You have to be thinking album coming off of that. For sure. Absolutely.

[Zip]

But is you gonna be able to, like, maybe you shouldn't sustain it, Come out with an album after some like that. Maybe you should just ride that till that fall off and then. Kai, let's do that.

[Demaris]

But.

[Zip]

Because right now it's gonna be like, nah, you gotta. How you gonna follow this up?

[Peach]

You gotta strike while the right. Right now.

[Zip]

You gotta test it first.

[Peach]

Right now she can get. She can get features from other artists she probably couldn't get before. You know what I'm saying? Like, there's a lot of people that might want to, you know, give her a verse. Now she gotta do that. Like, it's. It's just. It's just the business side of it. Like, I get it. I. I understand it. And. And people speculating that it is because the record is taking off. That's probably 98% of it.

[Zip]

If you chewing off of that song, you might not want to go through all the album.

[Mall]

She's gonna pop up at a Cole show and do it.

[Peach]

J. Cole.

[Mall]

I could actually.

[Rory]

That nigga said Cole.

[Demaris]

Who.

[Mall]

I can see her do that.

[Peach]

J. Cole's fan.

[Mall]

That's a new demo.

[Peach]

Fucking pissed.

[Mall]

I think everyone. The Boss Mandelo concert loves that Young Miami song or hears it everywhere they go. At the Cole concert, you might get some new fans.

[Zip]

That's the same lane.

[Peach]

What's the same lane, Boss Mandela.

[Zip]

That's the same.

[Peach]

That's the same lane. I thought you were saying J. Cole and Young Miami, bro. If Young Miami popped out at a

[Mall]

J. Cole show, it would work.

[Peach]

No, it would not.

[Mall]

It definitely would. You have cold fans. I Think up.

[Zip]

They ain't gonna lie.

[Peach]

I got cold fans up.

[Mall]

Not every cold fan is just some nerd. I just want to hear lyrical miracle. They. They have a range.

[Peach]

Did you see what they did when Drake came out at. At Tyler the Creators Festival? He's the biggest artist.

[Mall]

J. Cole fans. That was Tyler the creator fans.

[Peach]

What's the difference between Tyler the Creator?

[Rory]

There's a big difference.

[Zip]

God, think about it. Think about it though.

[Peach]

I think they all rap fans. I think they're all pure rap fans.

[Zip]

All right.

[Mall]

But it's a different future fans are different than.

[Zip]

I think.

[Peach]

I think all future fans are pure rap fans.

[Zip]

But I think J. Cole crowd would be more. More. A lot of men. A lot of men would be there. And you know Karisha on stage is a good look.

[Rory]

J. Cole also has a lot of female fans, so.

[Zip]

Yeah, but.

[Peach]

Yeah, but J. Cole female fan base ain't really into young Miami music like that. They'll listen to it.

[Mall]

But that song, I'm not saying she's gonna do album tripping, bro. She's gonna go do spend that bro.

[Peach]

Boo Drake at a tower to create

[Mall]

a festival crowd is a very specific, specific crowd that wanted to go see Frank Ocean, which is part of that world.

[Rory]

Yeah. It wasn't like they just booed Drake because it was Drake.

[Mall]

They were expecting Frank Ocean, Michael Jackson could have went on that stage and they would have booed. They were there.

[Peach]

And you think that's at a J. Cole show. If young miam out, they going to like, oh, it's lit.

[Mall]

Yes.

[Peach]

Get the out of here.

[Rory]

I don't think that. I don't think that they would boo her also. That would also never happen. Like we're talking about things that would just like.

[Peach]

You know why it would never happen? Cuz JCole ain't stupid. That's why.

[Mall]

Wasn't the city girls on one of those Revenge of the Dreamer joints? I don't think it's that crazy that young Miami would be around JCole. I don't think it's that.

[Rory]

No.

[Mall]

Y' all are making it like those worlds are completely different.

[Peach]

I think so, though.

[Mall]

Cole was just saying grippy grippy with that world. What are you talking about?

[Rory]

Cole does like, Cole does bounce and they hated that.

[Peach]

They hated when Cole did Grippy Grippy. Well, I hated it exactly what you talking about.

[Mall]

But like, people love the London be a joint.

[Peach]

I don't know what song you talking about.

[Rory]

He got songs with like thug. Like Cole has always like mixed with. You know what I'm Saying, trying to keep with, like the youth that isn't just pure rap fans. He doesn't that he does that, but, I mean, I don't think that that's going to happen. His tour is going on right now. Are y' all going to go? It started already.

[Mall]

I mean, the Charlotte show looked really good.

[Rory]

It did look good. And I do want to shout out to our previous coworker, Yomi, who is on that tour.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Shooting footage. I think that that's dope.

[Demaris]

So shout out.

[Peach]

Shout out y'.

[Colin Coward]

All.

[Rory]

And Jordan from Complex. But shout out, Yomi. That's so cool.

[Cal Penn]

Yeah.

[Mall]

I've been seeing stories.

[Peach]

They're on the. They're following the tour.

[Mall]

Look at the media being compromised again.

[Rory]

That was medium. Shut up, stupid. I think that's. They're just grabbing fan content mainly. I think that that's cool.

[Mall]

But.

[Rory]

Yeah. So y' all ain't going? I'm the only one going. Cool.

[Mall]

I mean, I would go to the. The Garden show if I was invited.

[Rory]

Oh, you ain't gonna. You ain't gonna cop a ticket like you did for Jay?

[Peach]

No.

[Rory]

All right, cool.

[Cal Penn]

My bad.

[Zip]

Don't hit the same.

[Peach]

I respect it. I respect that. I respect it. He said. No, he ain't. He ain't copping a ticket. But if he's invited, if the invitation is extended.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Which I don't expect to be invited.

[Peach]

So I might.

[Mall]

I love J. Cole shows.

[Peach]

I'm not invited to the full office.

[Rory]

He says you're not invited.

[Mall]

No, there's no way.

[Peach]

Well, I'm not invited to the fall off tour.

[Mall]

There's no way.

[Peach]

Why?

[Mall]

And I heard you say.

[Peach]

You said there's no way three times.

[Mall]

I'm not above buying a J. Cole ticket. I just.

[Peach]

You keep saying there's no way. Three times. I heard you. Okay. Okay.

[Mall]

Oh, I didn't know I needed to explain that. I thought that was kind of like. Goes without saying why I can't be

[Peach]

invited to the follow tour. Why?

[Zip]

I don't.

[Rory]

I don't know. Your relationship with the people who would invite you.

[Peach]

Good answer, baby D. Now why would not be invited to the fo tour?

[Mall]

Should. Should I invite Punch to one of our live shows? I don't know.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Why not, Punch?

[Peach]

Why not? Yeah, I would invite.

[Mall]

Should I invite Keem to my birthday party? Like, I don't know.

[Peach]

I don't. I don't know Keem. I've never. It. I'm just saying why wouldn't I be invited to the full up tour? I might be invited, you know, you

[Mall]

definitely wouldn't be, which is fine.

[Peach]

No, that is fine. But I'm saying I don't. Y' all saying I wouldn't be. Like, there's no way. Like, just why?

[Mall]

Well, I don't think it's. It's the higher ups. I don't think Cole or Eve or anyone or boss have like, an issue with you whatsoever. But I think some of their friends, after the rant of JCole apologizing, I just don't know if they, you know, love you on the riser, that's all.

[Peach]

Because I was right about J. Cole being crazy for apologizing.

[Mall]

And when you say it like that, that just doubles down that you wouldn't be invited.

[Peach]

I don't see that's the problem. Y' all see, need a friend like me, though, because I'm gonna tell you when you did some crazy. That don't mean that I don't with you. And I don't think you dope, and I don't think you have a skill set. I just think what you just did right there was crazy.

[Zip]

The rap game fair.

[Peach]

What's wrong with that? I don't have a beef with J. Cole or anybody in this camp. I think that what he did was crazy. That's it.

[Mall]

But if his friends maybe would say that privately to him, but never publicly, as friends should. Friends also wouldn't have somebody that's not a friend come to the friend show.

[Peach]

What do you mean?

[Mall]

They wouldn't want you at the show after you. You're not in the friend group. You saying something bad about their friend, they could feel away.

[Zip]

So you don't invite me.

[Peach]

What did I say? Bad about J. Cole when he was crazy.

[Zip]

They're not friends.

[Mall]

That's need media. They sell out every show.

[Zip]

They need media, though, right?

[Rory]

I feel like we've. We've beat this. We've beat this subject over fifty hundred episodes. What I will say is you have said publicly that you don't really like the album. So if you don't really like the fall off, I wouldn't invite you to the fall off tour. I. I feel like that makes sense.

[Peach]

So that me okay, the.

[Mall]

The same way. And I'm not saying you in particular, but the ovo side after Iceman, a lot of the reactions was, oh, now y' all want to be fans of Drake again? Now y' all want to come back over on this side? I could see Cole fans saying the same thing to other each you. Why you here?

[Peach]

Because I was invited.

[Rory]

Well, you wouldn't. But. Yeah, that's why they're saying, I don't think any. But most concerts like that, most people ain't invited. Ask, can they get on the guest list. Like family and like family and close friends is invited. But most people just asking, can they get a ticket?

[Peach]

I'm not doing that.

[Rory]

Yeah, I know you aren't. So that's why. That's. That was our.

[Peach]

It's my rule. Don't go where you're not invited.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Peach]

Live by that. If I'm not invited, I ain't to going.

[Zip]

Going n. I don't with that.

[Peach]

If you're not invited, you going.

[Zip]

Zip. We just talking concerts and, like, that general in life. Yeah, because, like, it's a boxing match. I'm going. You ain't getting invited to that.

[Peach]

No, no, no.

[Rory]

I'm saying not stuff you could buy tickets to.

[Zip]

Yes, you could buy a ticket to the concert. We talking about a concert. This is. This is equal to me. A concert, a boxing match, I'm going to that. I'm not invited. Or maybe we all invited it. I don't know. But I go to some like that. I don't do concerts. I'm saying I don't do that. But if somebody was like, yo, we gonna be there. Ah. And it's like a backstage situation, and I go, green room and all that.

[Peach]

I should be invited. And that's.

[Zip]

I'm not going. I don't. I'm saying I don't like that. The crowd.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Zip]

Looking around and all them people around. I ain't with that. That is too much.

[Colin Coward]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Rory said some of your friends was at the show when he went, yo.

[Mall]

Oh, yeah. I ran into so many people that were locked up with you.

[Zip]

That was locked up with me.

[Mall]

Like, I. It would take two years.

[Peach]

New York City.

[Zip]

This is my people. Anywhere we go, we wish we left here right now. Anywhere we went in the city, they gonna be like, oh.

[Rory]

Oh, my God, Zip.

[Zip]

Yeah.

[Mall]

No, I was lit, headlocks, getting noogies. Like, yo, I was locked up with Zip.

[Rory]

You Ziplo mans, man.

[Zip]

They ran down on Baby D somewhere before, too.

[Rory]

Yeah, they ran down at me on burgers and bottles.

[Zip]

Y.

[Rory]

Like, damn. I didn't even know Zip was moving like this in the street.

[Mall]

Like, one story you must have told when I was in the hospital because someone was explaining some jail story you told. I didn't know what it was. He's like, that was me. I was like, okay. I was like, okay, okay.

[Zip]

One of my man told me me and you were supposed to be slap boxing. I'm saying, when you said that, you can see me dressing like Uzi. Vert said we were supposed to be slap boxing. I told her. I said, yo, the. The ain't. I mean, man, healthy right now.

[Colin Coward]

I'm.

[Rory]

Set that up.

[Peach]

He ain't healthy right now, but as soon as he get Right. Soon as he get his vertigo.

[Zip]

Me and that. Yeah. Slap. Yeah, you owe that. Did you talking about you owe that?

[Mall]

No, I thought. I thought.

[Zip]

That. What's the name? Yeah, let's. Yeah, don't worry.

[Peach]

That's funny.

[Mall]

You're not trying to look like a vampire.

[Zip]

Nah.

[Mall]

Is that your.

[Zip]

I. I ain't like them graphics neither. Sister was. Y' all was tight. Little sister was going crazy. Yeah.

[Rory]

Now that you here, I want you to get used to that. Peach does that. He does it to me all the time saying, this.

[Zip]

This Peach is ill, man.

[Peach]

That was funny, though. Like that curveball. I was like, what the. That was a curveball.

[Mall]

Yo, Peach gets us all in trouble. I spent what, an hour and a half last episode praising the Jay Z show like it was Thriller, like it was the greatest thing of all time. Powers that be hit me just based off the clip Peach put together and made it sound like I was hating on the show. I was like, yo, go listen to the last hour and a half of me praising it. You picked one time and now. Now I hated the Jay Z show.

[Rory]

See? See? Happens to all of us. Man, with.

[Mall]

This is crazy. Well, I mean, Trump's gonna pardon R. Kelly, but not Boosie.

[Peach]

What?

[Rory]

Crazy R. Kelly is asking Trump to commute his sentence.

[Peach]

Not happening.

[Rory]

You don't think so?

[Mall]

He about to get gas Lane out. You don't think he's gonna get.

[Zip]

You don't get worse than people than him got pardons then?

[Peach]

R. Kelly.

[Demaris]

Yeah.

[Peach]

You don't think worse people than him got born that Trump pardoned?

[Zip]

Who A president pardon. People get pardoned.

[Peach]

I'm saying Trump, though. Who is he pardoned that was in jail for a worse.

[Zip]

I don't know. We probably would have to see the list of people that he pawned.

[Peach]

Yeah, let's pull up a list of the people that R. Kelly. I mean, not. Okay, that Trump is pardoned. And see, but I don't think that one thing that Trump has been big on is he know he don't play with, like, that type of.

[Rory]

As far as, like, sex crimes.

[Peach]

Yeah. No, he don't play with.

[Mall]

I'm not saying Code Kodak did anything. I. I don't know. Didn't he pardon Kodak being a little handsy?

[Peach]

No.

[Zip]

We can see the offenses, right? What's the offenses?

[Mall]

Don't quote me, but I do remember Kodak getting pardoned, but I didn't know what it was for. And I'm not about to say about. About Trump because I still think he talked to Ghislaine on two way all the time.

[Zip]

I.

[Mall]

But I just don't think Trump is going to pardon R. Kelly. That's all.

[Peach]

He's not going to.

[Mall]

But I do want to get down to the 600k that boost is. Nah, man.

[Rory]

So just.

[Mall]

They got a pardon, Boosie.

[Rory]

Now, just to clarify what Rory said about him pardoning Kodak, that was for Kodak's charges for falsifying information on federal forms to buy firearms.

[Mall]

Oh, free Kodak down.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Oh, good.

[Rory]

That's what that was for. He does have other. Other. But that's not what Trump pardoned him for. Just to clear that up.

[Mall]

Second Amendment. I'm with it.

[Rory]

So I'm not seeing anything about Trump pardon pardoning anybody for any sex crimes.

[Mall]

I don't, I don't. Has any president pardoned anyone for sex crime?

[Rory]

Yeah, I don't think so.

[Mall]

So prob. Probably some murder.

[Rory]

Some murder, but not, not sex crimes.

[Zip]

Biden. Well, Biden, all them people he pardoned.

[Mall]

Biden traded off the Lord of War, so I mean who knows what else he did quietly.

[Zip]

Has any presidents pardon people with sex rhymes? No.

[Mall]

I mean I think Epstein is alive.

[Zip]

So yes, individuals have been part President Carter.

[Peach]

Jimmy Carter. President pardoned. Peter Yarrow.

[Mall]

He's a folk singer taking a moral liberties with a child. Jesus Christ.

[Rory]

Oh, wow. Yeah, but I just thought that that was interesting that that's his last line of defense. Like, damn. Maybe Trump a part of me like you like, please tell.

[Peach]

Sit down, man. Get comfortable, man. You're gonna be there.

[Rory]

Well, like fluff the pillow. My. Like it's, it's.

[Zip]

It was some dudes that from the January 6th day they ain't had. You know what I'm saying? But they had like prep prior sex offenders.

[Mall]

Yeah. Which is crazy that our tax dollars are going to give them reparations. But neither here nor there. Y' all don't care that that Booy gave away 600k and still didn't get part.

[Rory]

No, I didn't, I didn't. I don't know about that.

[Mall]

What's going on with that Booy talked to some lobbyists, some people that. That claimed kind of like what PR went To jail for where he was promising certain people things because he knew Obama, but couldn't really follow through, but was taking the money. So Booy had talked to these, that they had Trump's ear, and if they pay these people, they will make sure that Trump pardons Boosie, which he needs because Boosie has priors. And that. That situation that happened in LA with a gun, Boosie could use a pardon.

[Zip]

Didn't he get probation for that, though?

[Mall]

Yeah, but I think he's just trying to get his. His record.

[Zip]

That's what I wouldn't spend 600,000 to get. To get. To get no probation off my record. Respectfully, I'm gonna put up with that probation. If I was in jail, trying to come home, if I had it 600, 000, then come on, let's do it. But it's a lady that they be Holling at the Paul is all right. Yeah, you like. You got to go through her.

[Mall]

But yeah, Boosie posted all these grifter Republican names that I could have told you that they were not going to get Trump to do anything. Yeah, Boosie. Boosie should have known. That's some Stringer Bell. Why are you giving money to people you know they're not gonna follow?

[Zip]

And people ain't even down with Trump no more. Some of them. Right.

[Rory]

Well, they're, they're. It's a lobbying agency in dc, so they lobby for everything. So they thought that that was. He thought that there was a chance. I mean, I get taking the chance, but yeah, I too would want my money back. But they saying, like, I never said you was getting half your money back for that. I know. If we didn't, like, get it done. And they also said, like, we still stand on the fact that we believe that he deserves a pardon, but we can't guarantee you half your money back because you tried to pay for play. And this is legal, by the way. That's not illegal, though.

[Mall]

That's cool.

[Zip]

No, it's not. It's not illegal. That should have gave him 300. And when you get the job done, there's another 300.

[Mall]

You're like, how is it you like

[Rory]

a murder for higher plot? Like, here, I give you 300 to get there. You get the other 300. When you bring me that head.

[Zip]

Like, you don't.

[Mall]

That's just regular business. You get the first half, you get the second half.

[Zip]

When you do the job, you do the job. Like, I'm not giving you how much it cost 600. Oh, I. Here, take the whole 600. No. Whoa, Wall.

[Mall]

You do a live show for a fee.

[Peach]

You pitch that up 75% up front.

[Mall]

You get the back end when you finish the show. Yeah, it's the same.

[Rory]

What was y' all lobby for? Like, if y' all had that. Y' all had the extra money, he was like, I could go lobby for some. What was y' all lobby for? The change of law.

[Peach]

To change a law.

[Rory]

Change a law or something you want to happen? Like, what would you lobby for?

[Peach]

Change a law. What law would I want to change?

[Demaris]

Change.

[Rory]

I feel like hospital bills and, like, late payments on certain shit should not go against your credit score. I don't give a fuck what nobody say.

[Peach]

I agree with you.

[Rory]

Like, if I. If I didn't pay the doctor or the dentist, like, why the fuck is my credit score at 430?

[Cal Penn]

Yeah, I agree.

[Zip]

Stand your ground laws in New York.

[Peach]

Stand your ground laws in New York.

[Zip]

Implementing that everywhere in the country. If I could stand your ground everywhere.

[Rory]

You know that that's gonna do. It's gonna hurt your community more than anybody else's, though, right?

[Peach]

Hurt the community.

[Rory]

That stand your ground law is gonna. It's not gonna work in our favor.

[Peach]

Why not?

[Rory]

Because even if we do have a stand your ground law, you know who the judge is most likely to side with when it comes to whether that, like. Whether that, like, qualifies or not. You see what I'm saying? Like, for example, Zimmerman. Didn't Zimmerman get off on the stand your ground law, if I'm not mistaken? Yeah. It's gonna give people more excuses to shoot at little. Little black boys and little black girls when they ring their doorbells for help or like that, or if they drop a ball on their property. I feel like that'll be doing like,

[Zip]

that in New York City, though. So this is.

[Rory]

That's in New York City. But you said to make it legal all over the country, so that's why I said.

[Zip]

Yeah. And.

[Mall]

And Trayvon Martin's defense. He was walking home. He wasn't.

[Demaris]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Bringing on. He was literally walking to his house.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Mind his business.

[Rory]

But that's.

[Mall]

But that's like any law where it's going to sway in different directions no matter the situation. Because even in Jersey, New York, if someone break into my house and then tries to run out and I shoot them in the back, I get arrested.

[Rory]

You get arrested.

[Mall]

That's crazy.

[Zip]

If somebody shoots you and you take the gun from them in New York, if somebody shoots you, bow you all shot.

[Mall]

Yes.

[Zip]

Think you about to die. And you somehow get the gun, you cannot shoot them.

[Peach]

So I feel, yeah, we need to change that law.

[Zip]

This is what I'm trying to tell you, that I know somebody that went to jail for that, that they got

[Mall]

24 years, which is crazy.

[Peach]

Yeah. That's wild, because there.

[Mall]

There is plenty of crimes in New York that had. They been in Florida.

[Peach]

He was getting robbed.

[Mall]

Been fine.

[Peach]

He was getting robbed.

[Zip]

He told. He told, like, because one of the dudes testified what happens, right? He said, yo, me and my cousin was robbing him. He was trying to tell us, like, yo, I know who y' all is. Y' all could come work for me. Ah, I got. Take the chain off, man. Stop talking. He was still, ah. He said, next thing I know, my cousin shot twice. Boom, boom, boom. He said, I ran off. I started hearing more shots. I don't know what's going on. I was running off. So he don't really know what happened on the scene, but he testifying to what happened right there. They gave that boy 24 years for that.

[Rory]

Yeah. New York got that duty, that duty to retreat.

[Zip]

Like, once you got the gun, you the threat.

[Rory]

If you can get out of the situation, you need to leave the situation.

[Zip]

Once you got the gun, you become the threat.

[Peach]

No, I'm trying to eliminate the threat.

[Zip]

Right.

[Rory]

How I know that's his only gun?

[Zip]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, he might have something else out of him that might have a bow and arrow. I don't know what that got out of him.

[Zip]

That's.

[Mall]

That's why I do give lawmakers some grace, though. Because even in that, why New York is that way is because there's so many people.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Like, even if you trying to shoot at the person that is the threat, there's mad non threats living next door to you where a bullet can just go through a fucking wall.

[Zip]

So you think they. You think that law is. They not go because of. Because of New York City?

[Mall]

Yeah, I mean, I think why New York gun laws are the way they are is how dense the population is. Because, like, you can't.

[Zip]

Upstate is not like that, though. It's spaced out, which. Yeah, I think Florida got a lot of people. Texas might got more people than New York.

[Mall]

I personally think districts in certain areas, it shouldn't really be statewide laws. I do think upstate New York should have different gun laws than New York City. I do think that. But then you run the risk of being able to buy New York State and then bring them into New York City. I see that commerce thing being an issue, but, yeah, I'M not. Yes, they're very strict here. But I understand why they are, dog. You can't just have a gun in the neighborhood we're in right now and not have strict laws where if I just. Just shoot. You're gonna hit somebody. It's gonna hit somebody. It's too many people.

[Demaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And just to clarify, like, I. I know I'm from Syracuse. I can speak from Syracuse. I am. I am allowed without a permit to have to keep a shotgun underneath my bed, in my house to defend my own. That's in New York City.

[Peach]

You're allowed to have that in your house. Yeah.

[Rory]

Not in New York City.

[Mall]

You can have a shotgun that's not registered.

[Zip]

I mean, would you go to. You could go to dick. You buy a shotgun.

[Mall]

Yeah, but you need a.

[Rory]

But what I'm saying is you need a permit. You need to be.

[Zip]

Yeah, I didn't know you needed a permit.

[Peach]

You do not.

[Zip]

I never knew that.

[Peach]

A permit to own a manually operated.

[Zip]

You don't need that shit.

[Peach]

You must have a city issued rifle, shotgun permit to purchase and possess them.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Peach]

Within the five bones.

[Colin Coward]

Yeah.

[Rory]

You need a permit to. To buy it and to own it. In upstate, where I'm from, I don't need to consult nobody. I can just go buy the gun and shoot it because that's your right to bear arms or whatever the. That is like the second Amendment, one of the amendments. But yeah, in New York City is a little different. The rules and laws are a little bit different and it's stricter to get certain permits and for handguns and all of that stuff because of how many people it is.

[Zip]

I remember I was in Mississippi, like my cousin beginning to call car. He pull a gun out, throw that on the dashboard. I was scared to death, homie. You bugging. He's like, you scared of. You just threw a gun on me. Like.

[Peach]

Yeah, yeah.

[Zip]

Like I really gotta tell you why.

[Peach]

Like I'm from. Now we can't do that.

[Mall]

Yeah, just have it on the dash. It's crazy.

[Zip]

You gotta put it. That's what you gotta have it. That you gotta be in plain sight. So you got to put it on the dashboard.

[Mall]

That's wild.

[Zip]

Word that. By the windshield wiper, homie. Word up. You gotta put that right there. Or. Because if you. You put it under your seat now, it's concealed. You go to jail. Put it on your head, it's concealed. You go to jail, you got to put that on a dashboard. People ride like. Then as we driving now, he like, yo, look he point mad people with shotguns and they in their back window.

[Peach]

Yeah, yeah.

[Zip]

Big shotguns and everybody.

[Mall]

I'd be scared. I take a left turn. This should just go across the dash. No, no, thanks. I need to hold it for that.

[Peach]

Yeah, you got that in like a ipod, iPhone case. Put the gun up there on the dash. Like, leave that right there. Y' all know what I'm doing. Get out my way.

[Mall]

Like, it's the Uber directions.

[Peach]

Yeah, y' all know what I'm doing. Stop playing with me. Don't honk your horn.

[Zip]

I don't care about it. Would you be scared about it sliding back and forth? I'm not gonna really be doing too much sliding. I guess that's why he put it on my side, though. You know, they be hitting them turns. It ain't.

[Peach]

You know what I'm saying?

[Zip]

Like, I swear to God. He put it. He put it over there. That's what really had me like, yo, he put that right here for like. You ain't got that over there. Put that right here.

[Peach]

Like, that ain't mine.

[Mall]

My thing with those, like, towns where you could do that and everyone walks around with guns just out. How I know you're not retarded? Like, that's what scares me a little bit. Because even with where it's legal carry, like, those tests are not that like, super detailed.

[Zip]

I'm mad.

[Mall]

I got how I know you're not retarded.

[Zip]

I'm mad. I got felonies and can't go nowhere and just be walking around with. With the the hog. Tied down like a cowboy. You crazy.

[Mall]

What down south.

[Rory]

That's what they do down south.

[Zip]

That tied down.

[Rory]

Be real funny about like starting fights with or bumping. You don't know who got what.

[Zip]

All that road race in Atlanta. They will point some big at your car, homie. Straight up. What you say? Nothing. Nothing. This is a song. He's our music on the L. You wild. What?

[Peach]

We just listened to some music over here. That's it.

[Zip]

I hate Atlanta traffic. Eight lanes. They got eight in this traffic.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Zip]

That is incredible.

[Peach]

Them had when it was that happened. They had that an inch and a half, two inches of snow on the highway for three days. Stuff cars broke down.

[Zip]

I was waiting five one time for like three hours on me. I was a little kind of high. It drugged. Yeah. Being at a zooming about for like three hours.

[Rory]

Zip Used to do beans.

[Zip]

Hell yeah.

[Rory]

You like them?

[Zip]

Yeah.

[Peach]

What beans? What's that?

[Rory]

Ecstasy.

[Peach]

Oh, E pill.

[Mall]

Doing XC pill in traffic is Hilarious.

[Rory]

I would want to kill myself. I was like, doing coke on a plane like,

[Zip]

285. When a said that in the song, I fell out laughing like, oh, be doing that. That's regular down there, huh?

[Rory]

That's why them drive like that. The drugs, zip. Are you one of those people that believe that if you have a. If you have a gun, like, you more likely to use it? Like, you walk different talk.

[Zip]

Yes, that is. That's a fact.

[Peach]

What you mean, more likely to use it?

[Mall]

I mean, statistically, it's like, all right, you have a higher chance of drowning next to water. Like, that's why the stats are so dope.

[Zip]

You got a gun on you.

[Mall]

Of course you have a higher chance of. He's like, you got it.

[Zip]

The. The mind state is. I wish a would. That's the mind state.

[Rory]

I'm from the wish.

[Peach]

I think it depends on the person.

[Rory]

I don't.

[Zip]

I mean, I'm. I'm just saying, like, she actually me.

[Peach]

Yeah. That's what said.

[Rory]

I'm speaking for me.

[Zip]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Peach]

It depends on the pistol. Yeah. I could have a gun on me, and I. You wouldn't even know. Like, I'll be the same.

[Zip]

I might not even be limping because the gun. This might just be. I ain't living because of this gun.

[Rory]

Homie fixed your gate.

[Zip]

You different is going on out here. I wish you would. I mean, when I was out there, I wasn't one of them. Oh, yo, this is just. I don't to want. Want to. And just in case. No, I'm starting.

[Peach]

So you see that sounds.

[Rory]

Oh, no, it depends on the.

[Zip]

I used to be starting.

[Rory]

That's why that lady says, your ass need to be locked up.

[Zip]

I used to start. I'm not. I'm not going front. Like, I wasn't like that. That's what I used to do. I used to start trouble. I was a troublemaking ass little.

[Peach]

Yeah, but see, you can admit that. So a lot of can't admit that.

[Colin Coward]

Yeah.

[Zip]

I don't be liking when dudes be on the Internet, right. And it's always, oh, yo, I made a mistake back in the days. You ain't making no mistake. Right. That's why the little don't listen to these niggas because they be pumping that they made a mistake. And these little dudes. I'm not making no mistake. Right.

[Peach]

So you saying, yo, don't make the

[Zip]

same mistake I did. I'm gonna make the same. I'm not out here making no mistake. I deliberately Brought this gun outside. I went to see this man, bought drugs, broke it up, sold it. This is not a mistake, right? You talking about you made a mistake and caught a direct sale. And caught. You sold.

[Mall]

You sold 10 decisions you made.

[Cal Penn]

Yeah.

[Zip]

You sold them people. People enough work for them to give you an A1 felon. You made a mistake. You made a mistake and served to the wrong person. But you ain't make no mistake in the decision. You understand what I'm saying?

[Mall]

Something wrong?

[Zip]

Yeah.

[Colin Coward]

Yeah.

[Zip]

I don't be liking that. Take some accountability. They don't be taking no accountability.

[Peach]

That's big in our community, though. A lot of don't take.

[Zip]

Well, lack accountability.

[Peach]

They don't.

[Zip]

Like.

[Peach]

I don't. I've never. It's never. I've never had a friend that was locked up and I said, free him. I've never done it. Because he really did that.

[Zip]

Yeah, but still, get that out of there.

[Peach]

He really did did that. I'm not saying.

[Zip]

I'm saying you ain't been in that right. You ain't never been in that right. But once you go in that, it's like, once you get to seeing all of that, like, son, that is real, son, like, you, you become like,

[Rory]

ah.

[Zip]

You see how. You see how she acts? You know how you feel when you got that gun? Now you ain't got a gun. And he's up and they got the guns. See, out here, it's like. You know, I used to always tell her, like, the cos be acting bad cause they got the guns. Like, you ain't really tough. You was tough, you would have been a state trooper. And I'm saying, they tough. I got a gun, they got a gun. It's fair. And they got training. I ain't got no training, so it ain't really fair. But they tough. You not tough. You just. You want to be in here with the weapons and nobody else got no weapons type, you know what I'm saying? But, homie, like, they will handcuff you and kick you in your face and your nuts at the same time. It will be happening. You know what I'm saying? Like, once you go to jail, you don't want to see nobody in jail. You don't want to see nobody going through that. That's why you hear dudes that been in jail say, I don't wish that shit on my worst enemy. Because they've been through that shit, bro. If you never been through it, it's like, maybe you might. I ain't saying free. That N that nigga did that shit. Maybe if you've been in jail, you might be like, I don't care what my son did. That, that, that punishment right there don't fit the crime.

[Peach]

Okay, I get that. I think it's different. But like, you know, one of my closest friends is locked up right now. And one thing that we always talk about is that like when he's like, free this, free this. Like, he would get mad if I said that. Like, nigga, don't be out of here. Don't be saying free me. Yeah, I'm not happy he's situation he's in. I'm not saying keep him. I'm not saying that. But me first of all, me yelling free him ain't gonna free him. Number one. That's just that just do that. Ain't helping his case and ain't doing nothing. Cause are yell free A and ain't never put no money on the books.

[Zip]

Right? Ask for money. Like, don't say free me, but send me 100.

[Peach]

Yeah, no, that. But that goes without saying. I'm gonna make sure that's a little situated. You know what I'm saying? His shorties out here, same shit.

[Zip]

Really?

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Peach]

If his man, if his family needs something, he know I do that. But. But like, when he's like free and free, I'm like, yo, y', all, y' all just yelling free A. Just because y' all on the Internet and got a social media account and want to just look like y' all know what's going on.

[Mall]

It worked for Yayo. Free Yayo T shirts worked.

[Zip]

That ain't worked for you.

[Mall]

He came home to a record deal. Everyone was, who the is Tommy?

[Zip]

Nah, you're bugging.

[Mall]

Eminem wore a free yayo shirt. VMAs on stage, everybody said, who the is Tony?

[Peach]

Eminem was cloud chasing.

[Zip]

Nah, he was signed G Unit.

[Mall]

That was a market still cloud facing. Okay, Marketing is cloud chasing.

[Zip]

He's already signed to them, bro.

[Mall]

I know, but Yayo, unless you listen to G mixtapes, you didn't know who he was. Eminem wore that shirt, but no but

[Zip]

he didn't come home and get a deal because he did.

[Colin Coward]

They all.

[Zip]

He was already signed. G unit. 50 signed, 50 signed, and then the G Unit signed right at the same time.

[Mall]

Either way, did it not help yo's career?

[Rory]

It helped his career. I don't know if it helped get him out of jail.

[Zip]

Jail.

[Mall]

Yayo was coming home. They knew what they were doing.

[Peach]

I. I just said it was clout chasing he was already going.

[Mall]

Somebody that has a. They coming home in two months. Like, yeah, you don't need to say free.

[Peach]

That's why I said it's time.

[Mall]

I'm saying it worked here because when Yale got out, everybody wanted to know who that was and wanted to hear from him.

[Peach]

Cloud chasing. Marketing. Promotion, yeah.

[Rory]

What was it in. In reference to what Mal said about, like, not saying free people? Cause some niggas did that shit. And I understand that you saying that that punishment don't fit the crimes. Like, jail is too extreme. Do you think that there's some people who are just like, repeat? Like, some people are out here really, like, terrorizing the community, killing women, children, like, like mad unnecessary innocent lives being lost and they keep being repeat offenders. Do you think that it's okay for those people to. Do you think the punishment fits that crime? Like, it's okay for those people to be there and that we should think that some people just need to be in jail and we should give up on them? Do you believe that?

[Zip]

I would sound like an idiot if I act like they ain't make jail for certain kind of people, you heard? Like, they make that. Them shit is there for a reason, you know what I'm saying? But when it's somebody, I. I know, I don't care what they did. I. I don't really want if they do some nasty shit with a lady or a baby, something like that. I hope they gun you down when they catch you, but I don't care what they do with you when they catch you. If it's somebody down, I don't care anybody that you know, I'm saying. But when it's somebody. I don't want none of my people's doing that. I don't want none of mine's doing that. Going through that. Niggas be hungry, starving in themselves. Them police come in there, they beat you. That's. That's what I'm. I'm on now. I'm saying I didn't been. Pick me up, slam me all on my face and all that before. I'm saying. I don't care what I'm saying. Carve you out, come pass yourself, spit tobacco, juice on your tray here. Right in your face. Passing in your cell. You ain't. They ain't feed you for two days and then they spit tobacco.

[Peach]

Yeah, but situation like that is. Is not. That's not a. Everybody don't experience that.

[Zip]

No, but a lot of people do.

[Peach]

A lot of people do.

[Zip]

So you know how many people left Attica with no teeth.

[Peach]

No, I understand that, but that's not. It's a lot of people that left attica with all 18.

[Zip]

And they tell you I was in that jail feeling like I was less than a man, man. And I'm saying because. Because how you like Guantanamo Bay?

[Peach]

Yeah. But if you in that situation, you there for a reason. You there because you made somebody out here in the free world feel like they was less.

[Mall]

It depends. That's case by case basis. Because before certain laws in 2025, somebody sold weed. I don't think they should be locked up. The way that Zip is explaining how people are locked up.

[Peach]

But this is what I'm saying. If. If you're in jail going through certain things, nine times out of ten, it's because of. It's a reaction to other shit that you doing in the jail system. Cause there's niggas that go to jail.

[Zip]

But you say it's all right, it's all right for the government. This is what you saying. Basically, it's all right for the government to do the same shit to me.

[Peach]

That's not what I'm saying.

[Colin Coward]

You are.

[Zip]

If you say it's all right for niggas to be in jail. This is what I'm saying. The government is in jail. Gang assaulting niggas. I'm not glad that kid got killed. I forget his name in that facility. But I am glad that we got to see that, because I seen that happened to mad people. The same way that we thank the law, we survive. But that happens on a regular basis. The kid they killed on camera in New York State, like last year or something like that. Them blue trial for murder and all of that, they be doing like that on the regular. Handcuff you and beat you up. You can't do nothing. They be gang assaulting, killing, murdering. Going in your cell. If they smoke cigarettes, they'll rob you and take all of your cigarettes, whatever. Like they.

[Peach]

We know that they. There's. But what I'm saying, there's crooked cops there, crooked CEOs.

[Zip]

So it's all right for the government to be doing.

[Peach]

Like I said, it's all right.

[Zip]

I saw they lie for a. To be in jail in.

[Peach]

Because that's for some to be in jail. I don't know what you talking about. Zip. Certain need to be that. Certain need to be in jail. We not doing that.

[Zip]

I'm not going.

[Peach]

We're not doing that. You just led with accountability. This all came from accountability.

[Zip]

I'm still saying I bring the gallows back kill a. Why you.

[Peach]

I'm with that.

[Zip]

You just gonna subscribe. I'm not let to let nobody. You giving permission to torture, whether you

[Peach]

say no, I'm not saying.

[Zip]

I'm not saying torture him.

[Peach]

I'm not saying. I'm not saying give the CEOs permission to torture. That's not what I'm saying. I just said there's crooked cops on the streets. There's crooked state troopers, there's crooked lawyers, there's crooked FBI agents, there's crooked cos. There's people that work in the system. They're human just like you and I. But they fucked up people, they just have a badge that they can hide behind and they can be protected behind. I'm not saying I'm with just assaulting and beating up in jail, but I'm also not gonna say niggas don't need deserve to be in jail. That's what you're saying. Like niggas don't deserve to be there going through that. Some niggas need to be going through that.

[Cal Penn]

Why?

[Peach]

Because when they was in the free world putting through that.

[Zip]

So you saying why the is it all right for them to do it?

[Peach]

But then I never said. I never said. No, no, no. I never said it was all right for CEOs to be doing none of that. I'm saying we not gonna sit here and say certain don't deserve to be incarcerated. We not saying that certain do not been in jail. Right, I understand that. You know why I've not been in jail? Because I don't want to go there. Because I know what's in there.

[Zip]

No, you really don't. You think, you know, you imagine it.

[Peach]

Whole point is deterrent. He doesn't want to go. Yeah, I don't.

[Zip]

He's imagining what's in.

[Peach]

I'm imagining because I've heard it both sides. I've heard your side. And like I said, my homeboy that's locked up right now doing 16, you know what he said, bro? All the we heard about jail, it ain't really like that, bro. Now if you in in jail and you doing dumb in you, then yeah, that type of gonna come to you. But if you ain't here just doing your time, he was like, yo bro, the we was taught growing up seeing the movies, a lot of that is fake, bro. Not saying a lot of don't have happen, but not to the degree that was taught growing up. And this is for my that's currently incarcerated in Virginia.

[Rory]

And I also Just to throw that in there. It all depends on facility chart like certain certain everything is different.

[Peach]

Everybody definitely corrupt CEOs and all that that's in there doing wow crazy. I know that I'm not gonna sit here and say that Certain don't deserve to be incarcerated though. You crazy. Certain. We see going on in our community community and get arrested like yo, now they got it. I'm like my this shot up like 12 parties last year. Y' all didn't think he was gonna

[Rory]

catch up to him.

[Peach]

He killed two. One he ain't even. He had nothing to do with it. He killed that. You mean to tell me La Na la free him. I'm not saying free a that killed the innocent kid walking home from school.

[Colin Coward]

No.

[Zip]

I don't be wasting my freeing.

[Peach]

Yeah I'm not. I'm never doing that. And I'm the same hood.

[Rory]

I think that's. I think that's ma's point. Zip. So saying free your like you understand that but when I'm talking about rehabilitation and how some are really dead ass genesis to society and how like even Dr. Umar says some we got to put down if we want to move forward as a society. Some of these really is animals.

[Peach]

There's no helping these people. There's no.

[Rory]

That's what I was asking your opinion.

[Zip]

And so what I'm saying is when you send a to jail like this be my right. When you send a to jail for 20 years which what the they think you think this changing. You think he's. You think no but he's off the

[Rory]

street and he's less people. The. The society is a little bit safer because this person is off the street.

[Zip]

It's hard to tell. It'd be a new. It'd a new little on the news the next day.

[Peach]

Send him. Send him the same way.

[Zip]

That's what I said. They got. They got a place for you and I'm saying they got a place for you.

[Peach]

That's all I'm saying.

[Zip]

Right. I just ain't subscribing to that. I wouldn't assist them and I'm saying help them put you in jail. Under no circumstances petty drug I'm that

[Peach]

that to me we gotta change some of those laws. That's drug like a shouldn't be getting more time for selling drugs than for catching the body. Like to me that's crazy that some is doing more jail time for drugs than some that done raped that done killed.

[Zip]

That you can't be morally correct when you want to be. You got Selling drugs a get a brick of coke. That affects a lot of people more so than this. That just got Murray pregnant. Getting high. All that.

[Mall]

He said petty drugs. Not petty drugs.

[Zip]

Is petty drugs. You selling dimes. You selling dimes. You selling a lot of the petty drugs.

[Mall]

For sure.

[Zip]

A petty job. Selling life. So you selling work to pregnant ladies. And I'm saying you doing all of this and that. That don't affect the community.

[Rory]

No, it does.

[Zip]

You can't be morally correct when you want to be.

[Mall]

But he's saying people that do that that are getting more time than people that are are physically one on one harming people. But I agree with you. Yeah. No matter if you sell it. If you sell a gram or something, it could kill someone.

[Zip]

Somebody smacked the out of me. I take it upon myself to do something to him a that's selling drugs and the pregnant women and all of that supposed be to. Supposed to get.

[Mall]

I don't think you're wrong, but I don't think you're wrong in that. That scenario.

[Zip]

That's what I'm saying. But I'm in jail for that. We going to jail this crime. So I'm gonna go to jail. They're gonna give me 25 years for that. For that murder. But if this has some work he pulled to get less time.

[Mall]

I'm with you on the self defense thing.

[Rory]

That.

[Mall]

That goes back to original conversation with New York City laws. I'm standing. I'm just saying we have shitty country

[Zip]

on the same they take to jail for. And I'm saying that is up.

[Peach]

But now I'm gonna keep it in context. It's all started from account accountability.

[Zip]

Accountability.

[Peach]

And I'm heavy on that. Yeah.

[Zip]

I wish I was alive in the cowboy era. I just told you that. I wish I could be somewhere with that tied down with you. You feel like I violated Buck your. I' ma buck mine. And if it isn't bad for me. You know how they put the quarters or having standing up. This man ain't draw fast enough. Straight up man wasn't fast enough. Yeah, it's a duel on Mother Gaston the homie man jealous tough people be dying. You can't do nothing.

[Peach]

Yeah, you crazy.

[Zip]

I don't. I don't want to go through that. I don't. I don't wish that on nobody.

[Rory]

Well, we can agree to, you know, disagree on that. I did want to bring up when Zip said accountability and mistakes like y' all seem to understand when he said like, oh, it takes 10 steps to. To get to this. Like, to bring that gun outside, do this, this and that. Y' all understood that. But when I said that cheating takes mad steps. We have a very popular clip where y' all looked at me like, no, it's still a mistake. Even though I said it takes mad steps, like, to get somebody draw down and, like, start them. Yeah. I was like, no, it can still be a mistake. I just wanted to draw the parallels, that's all.

[Mall]

Yeah, no, murder and cheating are the same.

[Rory]

No, I didn't say that the crimes were equal. I'm just saying if it takes 10 steps to make a mistake, it's not a mistake. It's a choice. The same thing.

[Zip]

I agree.

[Mall]

I think cheating's a choice.

[Peach]

Cheating is a choice.

[Rory]

Y' all on the clip, y' all sat up there and told me it was a mistake. That's all.

[Peach]

I'm just saying I can't remember the clip. She didn't.

[Mall]

Well, that's because. I don't know, we probably just got caught or something.

[Peach]

You said cheating is a mistake.

[Rory]

Yeah, I said that.

[Demaris]

Cheating.

[Rory]

I said that cheating is a mistake. And you was like, you don't understand. You was like, you don't understand how you could kiss somebody and it be a mistake, like. And I was like, no, it's not a mistake. It took mass steps to get there. That was. I was just, you know.

[Demaris]

Yeah.

[Zip]

By mistake.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Zip]

Like, what you mean you ain't mean to kiss her?

[Peach]

I'm not. I'm not gonna say I didn't. I'm not gonna say I didn't mean to kiss her. But I do remember one time, like, me and a girl kissed and, like, right after, we was like, what the are we doing? Like, that was like. I remember that, like, being. I was like, probably 18, 19.

[Rory]

Choice.

[Zip]

I was a bad. So I wasn't a mistake. It just was a bad decision.

[Peach]

That's what I'm saying. Okay. So. Yeah, so I would. Yeah. So maybe mistake is the wrong word, but it was like, you a decision.

[Rory]

You regret the wrong decision.

[Peach]

Yeah, like, we knew it was a. A bad decision. Like, we made a bad decision. Like, what are we doing? Like, we. We not. We shouldn't have did that. You know what I'm saying? Like one of those. So I wouldn't say maybe mistake was the semantics on the word was just a little.

[Zip]

And that's how these be. And that's why the little don't be jagging it, because they smarter than what you think. The little start all of the revolutions, bro. Huey P. Newton and all of them, the black pin, they was college kids.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Zip]

Frank Hampton and them, they was young.

[Colin Coward]

Yeah.

[Zip]

You know what I'm saying? Like, you think you just could tell these young boys anything and they go for it? No, you got to keep it.

[Peach]

Yeah. But the difference between Fred Hampton was and these young out here is Fred Hampton and these, they had some intelligence smarts, but a lot of these young is out here just thugging and then dumbing and thug.

[Zip]

But you got some. You got some young boys out here like that. It's gonna be. It's gonna take them. But they gonna have to get the. They gonna have to get the. I'm saying. And the. The wisdom from somewhere, you know? And they ain a lot of these dudes with the, hey, yo, I made a mistake. You ain't taking no accountability.

[Peach]

You right.

[Zip]

You sound kind of irresponsible to me. Irresponsible to me. Old. I'm out of here.

[Peach]

I feel that.

[Zip]

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[Mall]

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[Peach]

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[Mall]

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[Peach]

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[Peach]

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[Peach]

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[Peach]

Do we have voicemails? You've got mail.

[Demaris]

Hey, what's up Rory Mall? Demaris I'm gonna get right into it. I've been married to my wife for about a year and some change, but I think I'm no longer attracted to her. This kind of started slowly when we got married. We said that we were going to stack this money, we were going to, you know, build a life easy. You know, both work, I pay the bills, but we're both going to work, contribute to savings. And then about three, four months in, she made herself into a housewife. I kind of didn't agree on it, but she kind of pushed back and said that she deserved it. And then around Christmas time, we got into a little argument and she kind of punched me in my chin. And that's when where I dropped a lot of feelings. I slowly started to, you know, push away from her. I kind of no longer sexually attracted to her as well. She calls me little boy, you know, she calls me nigga. You know, I pay all the bills, I contribute to our savings. She still has contributed none. And just now I'm just realizing that I just don't think I can do it anymore. I just don't know how to go about it. You know, I love her and everything, but I don't know, hopefully I can get your guys input and maybe this can, you know, bring some conversation to the chat of maybe somebody else that's going through the same thing as me. I would take this to therapy, but my therapist died about two years ago, so it's hard for me to go back. But I appreciate you. Thank you.

[Mall]

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[Rory]

Did he say his wife? His wife.

[Mall]

Right, his wife.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

Okay, I thought this voicemail was just starting out with hey, I'm married, I'm no longer attracted to my wife type thing. Then he started explaining a bunch of no, you're not. You terrified of her. There's a difference.

[Peach]

Fam, love yourself more than you love your wife. Man, lead our relationship.

[Mall]

Yeah, I don't think we need to debate that. He needs to leave. I guess.

[Zip]

Started off slow. It was a year. You mean you started off slow pretty fast to me. I'm just saying she went right to a church.

[Mall]

My wife over here, my wife of

[Zip]

a year, he started off slow. I'm tired of her. I start slow.

[Peach]

Yeah, I mean, she, your wife. She sounds like she, she doesn't respect you. No, like you know, punch putting her hands on you verbally, you know, talking down on you and things like that. Like, the relationship is. It's okay to choose yourself. You can still have love and, you know that type of thing for the woman. But you gotta. You gotta love yourself more, though. Like, there's no respect in your relationship.

[Rory]

Okay, so outside of the violence. Right. Which is never, ever, ever, ever. Okay. Right. I know there's double standards for it. Never. Okay. What I'm wondering is, like, she said. She called me lil n like, bro. Like, is she from New York?

[Peach]

Even if she is, the girls from every girl from New York don't talk like that. No, not every girl in their relationship. They don't call you little bro.

[Rory]

She didn't say little bro. She said bro. Or.

[Zip]

She said little boy.

[Rory]

She said little. He said little boy. Yes. Little boy is crazy.

[Zip]

Like, my girl never.

[Peach]

My girl. A girl has never called me or a little boy. It's never happened.

[Zip]

Not a girl called me mad child.

[Rory]

I was about to say, like, not if she's. By not. Not. Curse the.

[Peach]

Okay, That's. I'm talking about. I'm talking about if y' all in the crib, cuddling, watching the movie, and

[Zip]

she just like, y' all might get off.

[Peach]

Like,

[Zip]

I swear to God, that happened before. Get off me.

[Rory]

Yeah, but I feel like y' all would have to have that and comfort to do that.

[Peach]

And then, you know the context of it, you know, if she joking or not. Like, you know, you know that. But it sound like she. She put hands on him, calling him little boy. Woman has never called me little boy.

[Zip]

Like, yeah, never.

[Peach]

That's just.

[Mall]

And the context in which he's saying is not like a New York girl just playing around. The context sounds like that's hitting home where it should.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Zip]

She.

[Peach]

You paying all the bills, you contribute to the savings. She don't want to work. She want to be stay at home wife. And all this other.

[Rory]

Yeah. Stay at home wife comes with a certain, like. There's like a certain, like, bag you got to be in. And it can't be the. Like, please. Like, that can't be the stay at home wife she deserve.

[Mall]

It is. What's the funniest part to that?

[Zip]

Yeah, you stay home wife. You call a little boy and please.

[Peach]

And sound like you want to be the man when he.

[Zip]

At work. It's somebody there that you.

[Peach]

You cool daddy. Yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

Yes. It's something you gotta.

[Colin Coward]

You.

[Rory]

You.

[Zip]

Yeah, yeah. You can't.

[Rory]

You can't talk like that. Like, it's like the same way what we tell. Like, if you ugly or like you broke or like your dick little. You can't talk to me a certain way if you ain't working. And like, you relying on him like he's your dad or something. Or like that's. I mean, or like that's your husband. It's a certain way. You can't talk especially to your husband. You shouldn't talk to him like that

[Peach]

Certain softness, a certain certain.

[Rory]

Yeah, housewife comes with a certain softness.

[Mall]

She sounds like the type that will fall for the pool boy like the FedEx guy. She's that type. She's definitely that guy. The guy. The Amazon prime guy on his bike just show up. She's him.

[Zip]

Yeah, homie. That's a bad look, man.

[Rory]

Yeah, no, you definitely need. You have every right to not be attracted to her. Because what women don't understand is you could be as fine if it's fine as you want to, but once your actions turn a man off, like, you can't come back from that.

[Mall]

So you call me little boy and punch me in the chin. No, I'm not sexually attracted.

[Rory]

Well, I don't think she called him little boy and punched him in the chin at the same time, but I think she just punched him in the chin. But you've been punched in the chin. Well, all of you. All of us have been hit by.

[Mall]

No.

[Rory]

Who you never hit by a girl before?

[Mall]

I had, but not closed fist to the chin. I ain't get chin checked.

[Peach]

Woman ain't never put her hands on me. Crazy.

[Mall]

No, if you ain't got it like that, that's cool.

[Peach]

Never. No, I got it like that. That's why they don't put their hands.

[Rory]

If you never got hit by a

[Zip]

girl before, don't be popping on me, man. You don't know.

[Rory]

Oh, okay, Rory, like, just me. I. I'll stand out this hill alone.

[Peach]

No, women ain't never put a hands on woman. A woman. I don't even think a woman has ever. A woman is probably thought. Thought about it like, you know, I probably made a girl mad before, and she thought.

[Rory]

She probably flinched to do it. And like, stop.

[Peach]

That's never even happened. She thought. That's as far as it goes. It probably was in her head where I can't see it. But she ain't never like, you crazy. That's never. I've never even been in a situation where a woman would even want to be almost physically. Like, she might be mad just because you Know we talking about something, and I'm not telling her what she want to hear or, you know, she want to be in a committed relationship, and I'm like, nah, I'm not really trying to do that with you. And she might be mad at that. Maybe that may want her to, like, want to choke me or something like that. But I can't see me ever even having. Like, I told y' all before, I've never even had, like, a overly heated argument with a woman. Like, where it got to name, calling and disrespecting. Like, I've never even had that before.

[Zip]

Yeah, I never really been through that.

[Peach]

Yeah. If I see it even going that way, I'll just remove myself. That's why. You know what? Like, let me just. Because it ain't going whatever from here. It ain't gonna get better.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Peach]

If something's gonna happen, and then if you know them people is called, I'm the one that's getting put in cuffs or something. You know what I'm saying?

[Zip]

Like, and all that, you get to yelling all, whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm out of here.

[Peach]

I'm just. I'm gonna just go. You know what I'm saying? Like, let this cool down. Like, so I don't. You know, I mean, like, a woman putting your hands on you to me, that's. There's no coming back from that.

[Zip]

Yeah, you snuffing. She's snuffing.

[Cal Penn]

Yeah.

[Peach]

She punch you in your face.

[Mall]

Yo, yo, that's crazy.

[Peach]

There's no comment. Like, how do you even. What is the conversation after that? Like, reverse it. He punch you in your face.

[Rory]

Double standards exist, and you know that. They do.

[Peach]

They do. But in this case, a woman punched me in my face. There's no coming back from that.

[Rory]

Yeah, I feel like I'm not. I'm never condoning. Condoning, like, domestic violence in any relationship. Somebody put their hands on you, leave. But I can understand, like, if you. You know what I'm saying, you got caught cheating on your marriage, and somebody snap and. And your girlfriend snap and punch you in your face, I can understand if you choose to forgive her for that. I don't think that that's crazy. I can understand how that if your wife.

[Zip]

If your wife catch you cheating with somebody, like, if you make a baby on your wife and she pop on you, I respect that, because you could have gave her a germ, you know what I'm saying? She, like, put hands on.

[Peach]

Say that again. If you did what?

[Zip]

If you. Like, like you cheating to make a baby and all that she got. That's clear evidence that you was out

[Peach]

there, have a baby outside of your marriage.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Zip]

She got every right to, like, put hands on you. That's I feel. I'm saying I would.

[Colin Coward]

Yeah.

[Peach]

I'm just punching you, cuz.

[Rory]

Like you ain't do the dishes. Like.

[Colin Coward]

Yeah.

[Peach]

Or whatever. Whatever.

[Zip]

Whatever. Like, just anything. But if you, like, you could have brought her something home.

[Peach]

Yeah. No, I understand that. I understand that being. Woman is so enraged and mad at that.

[Zip]

Yeah.

[Peach]

Where she would want to put hands on you absolutely understand that. Without a doubt.

[Rory]

Yeah. But like. Nah. Just like, hitting you because, like, y got me, right?

[Peach]

Yeah. Just because you think that I'm soft spoken and I'm a little boy.

[Zip]

A little boy.

[Peach]

Little boy. You know what I mean?

[Rory]

But what I'm trying to figure out is how did you. How did it get here in marriage? Because she ain't just start calling you and little boy when y' all got married. Like, there was. If she's aggressive like that and she talked like that, she wasn't. Like, she wasn't just, oh, so soft. Hel. Kitty. And then y' all got married, and a year later, she turned into, like, the rock. Like, something.

[Mall]

I'm not saying he's lying or on her side, but there is something I feel like that's being left out.

[Zip]

It's his side of the story. So we don't know. She might be like, this nigga's lying. He be popping a bottle too. Ah. Like, we never know. But it just seems like this side

[Peach]

of the story, if that is true.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Zip]

How long was you with her before you met?

[Rory]

That's what I'm wondering.

[Mall]

Yeah. That's why I'm on demerit side of, like, one year. Then all of a sudden, she turned just like that.

[Zip]

I don't.

[Rory]

There's something left that spicy was aggressive until you had to live with it every day.

[Mall]

I just hope he has evidence of her wanting to be a housewife on her own, because if he gets a divorce, that alimony would look crazy. If she was a housewife without evidence that that was her choice, she could run in there and be like, well, he didn't let me work, and now. Now I need to have his money without. Like, he could be.

[Rory]

Because they only been married four years, so she ain't. What she. What would she get it for? For like, four years, five years? Depending on what year.

[Mall]

I don't know. It depends.

[Rory]

Get out that before you owe more alimony. That's what I always tell people. If you thinking about leaving that marriage and you paying all the bills, get the out of there before you end up owing more alimony. Because for every year you stay, you're going to end up owing more.

[Mall]

Usually there's people saying rollover on alimony when they wasn't even in the marriage.

[Rory]

Yeah, so funny. Yeah, dead ass. Go on, get out. So if you're not attracted. First of all, if you're not attracted to somebody, no matter whether they're right, you're right. Whatever. If you're not attracted to somebody after only a year, you're not talking about spending the rest of your life together.

[Mall]

Go and get the take out, the punch a boy. Anything like.

[Zip]

Of having to spend my bread on somebody that I'm not with no more. That's. I'm not.

[Rory]

I will never.

[Zip]

I will never is 100% sure. I won't go through that.

[Peach]

See, that's what I'm saying.

[Zip]

100% sure.

[Peach]

Remember the saying, it's cheaper to keep us.

[Zip]

We going to the mar to get married.

[Cal Penn]

Yeah.

[Zip]

We going to do this the e. I'm going to perform this. We in under the eyes of the law. We married. We ain't signing no papers.

[Rory]

Yeah, well, that's also like when people. That's another thing. Like that rhetoric of, oh my gosh, she gonna take you for all you got. Like, you got to really, like, have a significant amount. Like, you can pay alimony to somebody, but that means they're not working at all. So unless you plan on being in a marriage where for multiple years the person you're with is not working at all, you don't really have to work.

[Zip]

I'm saying the thought of spending any of mine on somebody that I see,

[Mall]

that's why I disagree.

[Zip]

You laying up with somebody else now,

[Mall]

it's worse for people that make less money. If I make five million million dollars and you take 2.5. Yeah, that sucks. That really sucks. But if I make a hundred thousand and you take 50,000. Jesus Christ.

[Rory]

He's not getting paid 50,000. If you make a hundred thousand.

[Mall]

I don't know how this works.

[Rory]

Yeah, no, it's not. She doesn't take half your money.

[Mall]

I'm glad I don't know how this shit works.

[Rory]

I take half. It's in reference to half of. If you guys were together and there was assets acquired in the marriage while y' all were married. Even if he wasn't working, that's where it's half. We gonna split this house half we're gonna split this car half. Certain. Like half my income. That's not what alimony is.

[Mall]

Paying alimony, you only make $100,000 in New York City. That's got to hurt for sure.

[Zip]

I read some before. I don't know how true it was, but they said if you get married in Hawaii, like, they only entire you to half of what you got on you when you get married.

[Peach]

Like the day we got married.

[Zip]

Yeah.

[Mall]

That's why my cousin got married in Hawaii.

[Rory]

That's crazy.

[Peach]

Not because it was a beautiful.

[Zip]

Word up. Beautiful. Go get married with 12 first.

[Mall]

Only time I went to Hawaii was for that.

[Zip]

Go get married with $12 in your pocket.

[Rory]

Yo, I'm screaming. I don't know. I. I feel like I understand the al. This. And this isn't for me. Just speaking about being a woman. I feel I understand the alimony portion for if I make a significant amount of money and I spent all this time running this business and you didn't have to work. There are things that you do in a marriage that contributed to this, and I think that's to protect people who may have contributed to you building this business. But I wasn't an employee, so I didn't get paid for it or my name isn't on the business, but I contributed to this. I raised your children so that you could off and work and you didn't have to think about the kids. But now that we broke up, you leave me with nothing. That's what that law was created to. To protect.

[Mall]

No.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mall]

People who circumstances.

[Rory]

You leave me with nothing. I couldn't go to school and further myself because I was taking care of your house, your business, your kids, and I didn't have the time to do so. I could have done that if we weren't married. But now I don't have the same assets or.

[Mall]

But that's why I said I hope he has evidence that shows she decided she wanted to be a housewife. I decided tell you to do that.

[Rory]

Yeah, exactly.

[Mall]

I pay an alimony for that. Because you decided you didn't want to work anymore. That's your fault. Go deal with your choice. So, I mean, he just has to get the out of there asap.

[Peach]

Yeah, get rid of that.

[Mall]

There's a billboard right by me that says $399 spouse doesn't need to sign divorce. I. I'll put the number in the description in Jersey.

[Peach]

Help them out.

[Mall]

$400 spouse doesn't need to sign.

[Zip]

They got you.

[Rory]

Get out of there before she gives you A kid? I don't think he. He didn't mention a kid, but get out of there before you get.

[Mall]

So you got a full. To have a kid?

[Cal Penn]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Peach]

Oh, I don't sound like he getting.

[Zip]

You say he's not sexually attracted no more. Yeah.

[Peach]

Yeah. At that point, what are you. What are we doing?

[Mall]

I'm sure because he's being disrespected and doesn't find her attractive. I'm sure he's out in the world finding other women attractive. Get divorced before you cheat on her. She'll use that in your divorce at

[Zip]

work day, I get mad. Nice 100.

[Mall]

Treat him like a human being.

[Zip]

Yeah.

[Peach]

Bring them.

[Zip]

Good.

[Peach]

Good lasagna.

[Mall]

Ask him how he's doing.

[Zip]

Mr. Chamberlain.

[Peach]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Zip]

Call to be a little. Call me Mr. Chamberlain at work. Sick of this. Oh, man, you be farting all the time.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Zip]

Before we got married, I ain't know she fought like this. It'd be like that.

[Rory]

But that's why you gotta fart, right? A. From the beginning.

[Zip]

Yeah. Second date, it'd be like that.

[Rory]

Second date. Get that shit.

[Peach]

Depends on what you ate, though. Yeah. If you. If you a burrito. If you stay.

[Zip]

Girls is foodies, so you never know.

[Mall]

They just.

[Rory]

Second date is crazy.

[Peach]

Yeah. Farting in front of me on street. The second date. Yeah.

[Rory]

Jk. All right, all right, all right. Okay. After. After the second time, we. After the second time, we sleep together and we've decided we're gonna take each other a little bit more seriously.

[Peach]

We have sex.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Peach]

We gotta have sex at least three times before you.

[Demaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Peach said he got to make it far for. Please. I don't even know why I repeat that. I don't know why I repeat. I'm mad at myself.

[Peach]

Don't make a queef, right? Nah, whatever. That would keep out your. Or your butt. Which one?

[Rory]

But that's when you know you gotta let a see you early without makeup. You gotta fart around them. You gotta do like, you know, do to see if he really like you for real. Yeah, you stay for that. You really like me.

[Peach]

I agree with that.

[Mall]

All right, but like, how often do you fart? Like I get the makeup. The makeup part I get. But like, how early I got to know about your. Like, how lethal and how often are you farting? That I got to know that quick what your farts are. Cuz who farts that much? The little.

[Zip]

Well,

[Peach]

We gotta change your diet. Like what you eating? Cuz like gas. Like that is not. You know, that means girls Is foodies, bro.

[Zip]

They eat everything. I always fought, bro.

[Mall]

Women love dairy.

[Peach]

But that's what I'm saying. Even if you are a foodie. But it's like you're. If you're. If you have gas like that to where you're far. And I'm like, yo, we have to figure out what it is. Like, all right, there's something you're eating that your body is not agreeing.

[Rory]

But you're talking about, like, farts that have, like, smell. I'm referring to the sound. Because even the vegan girls, they fart a lot, but it has no smell because they're vegan. But you gonna hear it.

[Peach]

Yeah, but even if I. I don't. It's not about hearing it. If you. If you got us. If you got a muzzle on your fart and I don't hear it, but I smell it, and I start looking under like, shoes by the door and see somebody stepping. We gotta have a conversation in this state.

[Zip]

Respectfully, you gotta take a. That's why I stink.

[Mall]

Smell like actual stink is.

[Zip]

You gotta take a. That's when you're a little kid in school, you fought it stinking. That person has to take a. Homie, get on your fart. You ain't got to take a. Don't smell like nothing, bro.

[Peach]

No, no.

[Zip]

I'm telling you, bro. When you fought snake is dooo right there. That came past the doo, bro.

[Peach]

I'm telling you, bro, it's the gas in your stomach from whatever you ate.

[Rory]

Some. Something is creating like, sulfurous gassy.

[Zip]

Yeah. Sometimes I stick to the screen. I eat the same. I don't. My. Don't be my faults. Don't be stinking unless I got a. I got a In the f. Probably gonna stink.

[Rory]

Yeah, but I was. I wasn't referring to like, not to peeling the paint off the walls. I was referring to, you know, you. You hear it like, in your sleep. Like, I've been in a relationship with somebody or dating somebody, and they was like, you fart in your sleep. I said, oh, you do too.

[Peach]

I remember a girl farted in her sleep in front of me. Like, just like while first time, like, she slept over. She farted. I was still up. She farted and like, she rolled over to see if I was Ever had to act like I was asleep. Like. Cause I. Cause it's awkward now.

[Zip]

Nah, I would have been seated if

[Peach]

I heard you fart.

[Colin Coward]

Yeah.

[Peach]

I would have been seizing.

[Zip]

Yeah.

[Colin Coward]

Me.

[Mall]

Yeah.

[Zip]

Fuck as you.

[Mall]

Your like that.

[Zip]

I had to act like I was

[Peach]

sleeping like rolled over real quick.

[Zip]

I didn't know. Girl's fault.

[Rory]

I've definitely done that where I'm like,

[Peach]

yeah, woke her up.

[Zip]

And I'm just like, I heard you, bro.

[Rory]

Yeah, I heard you.

[Peach]

I got me act like I'm like

[Zip]

grandma used to f. I thought girls ain't f. Like what's I be stashing farts like.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Zip]

You say yo, everybody falls. Not girls.

[Rory]

Girls fire definitely.

[Peach]

Before they would excuse themselves going to another room go act like they going,

[Zip]

hold that in on the door.

[Peach]

Outside lagging, they go.

[Zip]

That's why girls always blow.

[Rory]

Like you can tell like if it's going to like usually you could telling your stomach if it's going to stink or not. If you know it's like some little quick. All you got to do is like spread your ass cheeks.

[Mall]

Like spread one ass cheek and it'll spread the ass.

[Rory]

Listen. It'll escape silently.

[Zip]

I think that's why girls is always bloated.

[Mall]

Don't spread your ass cheeks in my living room. No, not like that, babe. Just fart. It's okay.

[Rory]

You reach in there and you like lift a little bit of one. That's a lot, baby D. No, it's not.

[Zip]

Not.

[Rory]

They do it all the time. Not for girls. You lift a little bit of your ass cheek up and it escapes silently. So you don't smell it especially you don't hear it. And then you.

[Zip]

It's not going to smell.

[Cal Penn]

Clear the rim.

[Peach]

It just clear the r. It clear rim.

[Rory]

Cuz the rim is what make. What make the sound. It's just like a little quiet little

[Zip]

wish in your pants switch.

[Peach]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

You don't hear it.

[Peach]

You smell it?

[Rory]

No, but you wouldn't do that. You wouldn't do that with a funky one.

[Mall]

She said cash out.

[Rory]

No though you wouldn't do. But some. Sometimes you don't know.

[Peach]

You don't know it. Be silent. You like yo, that's. That was cool. It was. And you smash. You be like, oh, nah, it be those two.

[Rory]

But I mean it's up. It's a few want to take the risk because if you want to take the risk because sometimes you can't escape. Sometimes you're in the car.

[Zip]

Yeah.

[Peach]

You know some girls don't know about

[Zip]

that courtesy flush neither though. Girls, the girls I need to do that courtesy flush, they sit there and let it bake.

[Rory]

Right.

[Zip]

Like what's wrong with you? Like you gotta hit the flush. That.

[Colin Coward]

Yeah.

[Peach]

As soon as you.

[Zip]

Yeah. Why that is dropping. You could be.

[Peach]

Make sure you Know what I'm saying? You. You good. You know, like, if I hit a

[Zip]

toilet flush one time, you was like, what are you, bugging?

[Demaris]

Yeah.

[Zip]

You said you was marinating, that you don't even smoke or nothing on her phone.

[Rory]

You don't even smoke or nothing.

[Zip]

You ain't. You had no weed in there. None of that.

[Mall]

Like you smelling hot box in the bathroom while you taking.

[Peach]

Light a candle in this.

[Rory]

I'm scrolling on my phone. I felt.

[Zip]

I felt like a creep listening for the flushes. Like, count flushes one time. Like,

[Rory]

see, that's why you gotta leave.

[Mall]

What's too many?

[Zip]

I don't care.

[Peach]

I mean, this thing is too.

[Zip]

You can't.

[Cal Penn]

You.

[Zip]

First of all, you ain't gonna really be able to do too many.

[Peach]

Yeah, it ain't.

[Zip]

You only really gonna get 2, 3 off before this is. You gotta wait a while.

[Rory]

Oh, I hate that. I hate that. When you go to flush for the second time now, the water won't go down.

[Colin Coward]

Hey, man.

[Rory]

Man, what the.

[Zip]

You can't go in there after nobody. If you got to take a. You got to wait for people to use the b. You got to relax.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Zip]

You got to get that bathroom 30 minutes. If you got to take a in some, like. And somebody else been in there already

[Peach]

got no vent, no fan.

[Zip]

Somebody come out the bathroom. You cannot go in there and take a. Yeah, no. You ain't got enough flushes, bro.

[Peach]

Yeah, if you got one of them slow feelings about to.

[Zip]

Somebody toilet up, you went to flush

[Rory]

it, and like, that one little, small, little turd floated back up.

[Zip]

Oh, and there ain't no more water.

[Peach]

Wait, you gotta wait it up.

[Zip]

Nah, you know what I'll do In your bathroom, I will fill that garbage can up with water and pour that down there.

[Peach]

Cause it's gonna flush.

[Zip]

I'm getting that out. I'm not.

[Rory]

That nigga's a professional.

[Zip]

Yeah, I'm getting that out. I feel your garbage can up. Pour that down. My grandmother taught us that.

[Colin Coward]

Yeah.

[Peach]

Hell, yeah.

[Rory]

That's what this gonna get. It's gonna get down.

[Zip]

That's going down there. Yeah, we ain't gonna.

[Peach]

And if it ain't, we got a problem.

[Zip]

Yes, yes.

[Peach]

Someone with your toilet broke.

[Rory]

Yo, I had a homeboy that was mad that his. His wife. His wife. Not his girlfriend. His wife ain't, like, wait for him to. Or, like, leave, like, the floor they was on to take a. I used to be like, bro, he's like, I just don't like knowing that she takes shits like She's a girl. She's not supposed to take. I'm like, bro, she's a human being.

[Zip]

Yeah, he's a. That's.

[Mall]

You ever had a girl stay at your crib and she tries to do the shower and trick. So you just think she just taking a shower and you keep it in the front.

[Rory]

All I do is.

[Mall]

But. But then you go into the bathroom after and then it's just hot smells.

[Rory]

I'm like, you can't hot box it like that.

[Peach]

I don't know how to do that. You gotta have.

[Zip]

You gotta have.

[Peach]

You gotta have a candle lit. Something. You got to have, you know, I

[Zip]

mean, you got to flush.

[Peach]

If you sit in there with the water run, it got to be cold water. It can't be hot water.

[Zip]

If you flush, it don't stink. Flush that.

[Peach]

But I got the. Yo, you. We talking about the dude wipes. And this is not an ad for dude wipes. They got the dude bombs. You put the toilet. That kills the scent and all that. I just got the joint.

[Zip]

Yeah, you got to get those.

[Rory]

Like, can I travel?

[Peach]

Yeah, they look like pods. Look, the dude bombs. Word bombs. Other night, you drop them joints in the water before you. Before.

[Zip]

What happened to that great stuff that used to be in the toilets and all that back?

[Rory]

You don't see it. It used to be a little thing that people used to put in the tank.

[Zip]

Yeah, that used to smell good.

[Peach]

Yeah,

[Rory]

I might have keep a dude bomb.

[Peach]

Get the dude bombs. Yo, I'm gonna get some for the office. The dude bombs official. Put that in the toilet before you take a.

[Zip]

You know, I'm not really encouraging to do because you trying to encourage people to be taking shits outside and all that. I'm not real. You got the dude bomb. You might feel comfortable shits here anyway.

[Peach]

Yeah, if I got the dude ball. You won't like to take a. Like, if you got a gun, you're more likely.

[Rory]

Yeah, you safer to do it.

[Mall]

Yeah. You have to stand your ground in a public. Public restroom.

[Peach]

Stay in your toilet.

[Rory]

Some people. But some people at restaurants like I went to. I went to catch this weekend and I was in the bathroom like, you know, like taking pictures and like that. This girl came in the bathroom and start the bathroom up. I'm like, damn, that food ain't agreeing with her. You can't, like, you can't control.

[Zip]

Now, some people like that. When you eat that 10, 15 minutes later, you got a. Some people like that.

[Peach]

Yeah, that's something with your inside. You eating the Wrong. Yeah, but that ain't supposed to process. Digest that fast.

[Mall]

The dude bomb commercial. Just go to public restrooms and start throwing them shits in there. Oh, actually, no. That one's all right. Port Authority. If you take a. At Port Authority, you might as well just be home. Like, just. Just sell your crib.

[Peach]

You got to take a. First of all, why are you in Port Authority?

[Mall]

Don't.

[Rory]

Don't.

[Mall]

That's crazy. I better. 30 million. I'm taking a bus to Jersey. I've taken it to D.C. i've taken it.

[Rory]

I was just.

[Mall]

Baltimore.

[Rory]

I took the bus to Syracuse.

[Peach]

That's different. Because you're going upstate. That's different. I'm saying, like, right now. Ryan lives in here. He lives here.

[Rory]

He don't be at Port Authority. He be at ground.

[Peach]

But I'm just saying, if he was like, why are you. You got the wipes now, Ryan just

[Mall]

be chilling at Port Authority.

[Peach]

Okay, yeah, you got the wife, but you got the. You got the wipes for your ass and the wipes. Wipes for the toilet seat. Like the Clorox wipes. All right, now you in the game.

[Zip]

Don't make a mistake one day. Yeah.

[Peach]

Now you gotta do.

[Zip]

Don't make a mistake.

[Peach]

I'm gonna get the dude. Get the dude ball.

[Rory]

All I'm saying is if you're. If you're dealing with women and married to women, sometimes they. They have bodily functions.

[Peach]

Yeah, no, I get it. Just light a candle or something.

[Zip]

I wouldn't give a.

[Rory]

My wife, she far in the bed with you. Still gonna beat after.

[Peach]

Yeah. But, hey, that don't mean nothing. I might not.

[Mall]

She used the dude wipe, though.

[Zip]

You grown.

[Cal Penn]

Yeah.

[Peach]

I might not eat your butt tonight, but I'm hit.

[Zip]

That. You fought. You fought two, three times.

[Peach]

He said he is.

[Rory]

It was talking to him.

[Zip]

That tofu. That tofu acting bad. We ain't doing nothing.

[Peach]

Yeah, they good. Oxtail. No, I'm cool.

[Mall]

That's peach mating.

[Zip]

Oh, you had peas and rice. Yeah. Oh, peas and rice. I'll let you. Oh, my God. Yeah. Let that get two days.

[Colin Coward]

It's a lot.

[Mall]

A lot of fiber. A lot of fiber there.

[Peach]

All right, well, we'll talk to y' all soon. Be safe, be blessed. I'm that. He's just ginger. That's Netflix. Netflix it.

[Zip]

Let's get it out.

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[Mall]

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[Zip]

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[Peach]

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[Mall]

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[Peach]

Who's moving me to the couch with Domino's? Best deal ever since they just added stuffed crust. Any pizza any toppings?

[Zip]

Now with stuffed crust for 9.99?

[Peach]

It's a long term contract with no

[Cal Penn]

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[Peach]

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[Mall]

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[Peach]

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[Rory]

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