Episode 522 | The Gun Line with Lil Rel & Karlous Miller

Summary

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New Rory & Mal Podcast – Episode 522: "The Gun Line with Lil Rel & Karlous Miller"

Release Date: July 23, 2026
Guests: Rel Howery, Carlos Miller
Main Theme: Comedy, behind-the-scenes of Rel Howery’s directorial debut “Haunted Heights,” entertainment industry insights, and a playful discussion on recent hip-hop “beefs.”

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Episode Overview

This lively episode brings together podcast hosts Rory, Ma, and Carlos Miller with comedian, actor, and now director Rel Howery. The group dives into Rel’s upcoming movie "Haunted Heights," reflects on the creative process and comedy in contemporary film, roasts each other, and offers perspective on current events, including Rick Ross’s “gun line” jab at D.C. Young Fly. The tone is irreverent, candid, and punchy, with plenty of industry anecdotes and classic banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. Comedy, Fertility, and “Millionaire Vasectomies”

[02:49–06:43]

• The crew jokes about statistics for pregnancy across age groups, poking fun at modern dating, responsibility, and the celebrity lifestyle.
• A recurring riff is the story of “Playboy Max” getting a vasectomy at 23 after a pregnancy scare.
  “Man, he learned from it.” – Carlos Miller [05:05]
• The conversation lightly touches on male responsibility, sexual health, and the real motivations behind certain life choices.

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2. Rel Howery’s Directorial Debut: “Haunted Heights”

[06:43–10:48]

• Rel discusses moving from stand-up and acting into directing, emphasizing the creative control and satisfaction of building something from scratch with friends.
  • “Directing is my thing now, so I ain’t going nowhere.” – Rel Howery [06:43]
• “Haunted Heights” is introduced as a Black comedy horror film about four friends attempting a heist in a haunted mansion (Barry Gordy’s first mansion in Detroit).
  • “We’re trying to rob a place that we think is an easy situation... but it’s haunted.” – Rel Howery [07:59]
• The cast is composed mainly of stand-up comedians who can act, including Tiffany Haddish, Andrew “King Bach” Bachelor, Tony Baker, and others.
• They shot on location in Detroit at iconic but “creepy” Motown venues, adding authentic Black musical and cultural history to the film’s vibe.

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3. Black Comedy Horror Genre & Cultural Legacy

[08:40–10:13]

• Conversation around where “Haunted Heights” fits among classic Black comedy horrors, e.g., “Leprechaun in the Hood.”
• Rel rejects the need to place his film in comparison to past works, focusing on having fun and letting the audience decide its legacy.
  • “You have fun with it and let the audience figure out whatever they want to rank stuff.” – Rel Howery [09:59]

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4. Behind the Scenes: Making Independent Films Work

[14:25–18:42]

• Rel shouts out Ava DuVernay and Shawn Levy as mentors; both gave him advice for the transition to directing.
  • “Ava DuVernay… helped me a whole lot” – Rel Howery [14:43]
• The group discusses how Hollywood’s appetite for new comedies has shifted, with fewer risks taken and studios unwilling to let material “find its legs.”
• The rapid, sometimes cutthroat nature of the streaming era applies major pressure to projects to be immediate hits.
  • “The money is killing the art, man.” – Rel Howery [17:39]

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5. The State of TV vs. Film Production

[25:28–27:12]

• DC Young Fly explains the differences in acting for TV (fast, less time for re-shoots, “what you shot is what you got”) vs. the more meticulous and focused process of film.
  • “With a movie, you really have to kind of lock in, and you get to bring more elements to your character.” – DC Young Fly [25:45]

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6. Viral Clips, Social Media & The “King Bach Moment”

[29:09–34:39]

• The group watches an infamous King Bach (Andrew Bachelor) Black Lives Matter video from the pandemic, roasting its melodramatic tone but acknowledging the good intent.
  • “He meant well… but it’s unfortunate. Even though we laughing at it… he tried.” – Rel Howery [32:05]
• This turns into a conversation about comedians in film, noting that while many Instagram comedians aren’t strong actors, Batch has real talent.
  • “Batch is actually really, really fucking good.” – Rel Howery [33:51]

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7. Low-Budget Filmmaking & Stand-Up Favors

[34:46–36:20]

• Casting for “Haunted Heights” was based on personal connections and “favors,” acknowledging the film’s tight budget.
• Filming was intense and efficient: shot in 18 days, attributed to strong pre-planning and lessons from experienced directors.
  • “We did 18 days. It was scheduled to do 18 days, and we got it in 18 days.” – Rel Howery [35:21]

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8. Arena Stand-Up & Epic Comedy Shows

[36:20–39:05]

• The podcast reflects on Shane Gillis’s record-breaking stadium comedy show (over 70,000+ in attendance) and the uniqueness of epic-scale stand-up.
• “I’m always interested… is it even enjoyable?” – Rel Howery [37:20]

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9. “You Get One Favor”: Showbiz Etiquette

[38:09–39:22]

• Amusing anecdotes about major industry figures (e.g., Dave Chappelle) telling fellow comedians they “get one favor.”
  • “If you ever need a favor, just make sure it’s good. Don’t call me for no bullshit.” – DC Young Fly on Chappelle [38:25]
• Rel shares a parallel Jay-Z story, underscoring the rarity and value of real favors in entertainment.

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10. Rick Ross “Gun Line” Bar and Comedy vs. Rap Beefs

[40:05–59:47]

• In-depth roast of the recent Rick Ross jab at DC Young Fly (“Don’t cross the gun line”).
  • “He didn’t even say my name. All you goofy ass... but DC, you got one time.” – DC Young Fly [51:45]
• The crew debates whether rappers seriously “beefing” with comedians is corny or even “not gangster,” contrasting the situation with legendary comedian-musician run-ins (e.g., Eddie Murphy vs. James Brown).
• They riff that only comedians should “beef,” and rap conflicts with comics just feel weird, with Rel summing up:
  • “It's not gangster to beef with comedians. We don't take this shit serious enough for you to be that upset.” – Rel Howery [54:35]
• The “gun line” becomes a running joke, with everyone riffing on directions, GPS, and ways to avoid “crossing” it.

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11. Careers in Film—On and Off Screen

[59:55–61:14]

• Rel advocates for young people to look beyond acting or athletics when considering careers in entertainment—lighting, writing, camerawork, props, finance, and more.
  • “You could be a star in these other fields. There are unions for all this, man.” – DC Young Fly [60:34]
• A funny tangent follows on “intimacy coordinators” and the randomness/flexibility of the job across cities.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Comedy Films’ Decline:

  • “I think people just trying to make whatever they know they think will make money right away. And what you're seeing is an independent film revolution.” – Rel Howery [17:09]

• On Industry Favors:

  • “Be sure what you asking me for… 'cause I ain’t doing this again.” – Rel Howery [39:17]

• On Rick Ross’s Bar:

  • “He didn’t even say my name. All you goofy ass... but DC, you got one time.” – DC Young Fly [51:45]
  • “Don’t cross the gun line.” – Repeated riff [51:53+]
  • “It’s not gangster to beef with comedians. We don’t take this shit serious enough for you to be that upset.” – Rel Howery [54:35]

• On Black Comedy Horrors:

  • “Leprechaun in the Hood is probably the all-time classic.” – Carlos Miller [08:40]

• On ‘Haunted Heights’ Production:

  • “The budget wasn’t much at all, so for all of them to actually say yes was dope.” – Rel Howery [35:14]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | | ------------ | ------------------------------------------- | | 02:49–06:43 | Jokes on fertility, pregnancy scares, vasectomy decisions | | 06:43–10:48 | Rel Howery on “Haunted Heights,” directing, movie concept | | 10:48–11:47 | Shooting at Barry Gordy’s mansion, Motown lore | | 14:25–18:42 | Hollywood, making comedies, independent film challenges | | 25:28–27:12 | TV vs. film production, artistic process | | 29:09–34:39 | King Bach’s viral moment and Instagram comedy actors | | 34:46–36:20 | Indie filmmaking, scheduling, pulling in favors | | 38:09–39:22 | “You get one favor” stories (Chappelle, Jay-Z) | | 40:05–59:47 | Rick Ross/DC Young Fly “gun line” jokes and rap vs. comedy “beefs” | | 59:55–61:14 | Showbiz careers off-camera, “intimacy coordinator” jobs |

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Episode Takeaways

• Rel Howery’s “Haunted Heights” is a celebration of Black comedy, culture, and indie filmmaking—assembled through friendship and hustle, not Hollywood budgets.
• Comedy in film faces real challenges in today's media landscape—impatience, risk aversion, and streaming overload—but independent efforts and community keep it alive.
• The “gun line” saga is a reminder that rappers should tread carefully before feuding with comedians; laughter wins every time.
• Opportunities in entertainment abound far beyond the camera—tech, finance, set design, and more should be in the conversation for young creatives.
• Rel and friends keep the discussion engaging, unfiltered, and always funny—championing authenticity over status.

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Main Voices

• Rory & Ma: Cohosts, orchestrate conversation and rib guests.
• Rel Howery: Guest (director/actor), shares insights on directing, the film industry, and comedic values.
• Carlos Miller: Guest (comedian, actor), adds classic sarcastic humor, industry realism, and scene-setting.
• DC Young Fly: Guest (comedian, actor/TV), reflects on acting differences, viral culture, and participates in the “gun line” riff.
• Special Mentions: Ava DuVernay, Shawn Levy, Tiffany Haddish, King Bach, Dave Chappelle, Jay-Z, Rick Ross, and various cultural icons are referenced for advice, anecdotes, or discussion.

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For listeners who missed the episode, this summary captures the energy, wit, and real-world wisdom that makes New Rory & Mal a staple in contemporary podcasting.

Transcript

[Ma]

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[Rory]

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[Ma]

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[Rel Howery]

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[Cal Penn]

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[DC Young Fly]

And now.

[Rel Howery]

Conductor.

[Ma]

23 is when you get the most people pregnant.

[DC Young Fly]

No, he's not.

[Carlos Miller]

Wait, what study? You don't really start rolling. What study is that? What study Is that where at 23 you get the most people pregnant?

[Ma]

That's what they said.

[Carlos Miller]

You know when they said that, they

[DC Young Fly]

said that it's early 30s.

[Rel Howery]

Yeah, I think so too. I think it's like 27, 28, 27.

[Ma]

That's when y' all got the most people pregnant.

[DC Young Fly]

I mean, that's when you. You get hard headed enough to be like, I ain't pulling out.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah. You get rid of the condom at 24. You probably wear your last condom at 24.

[DC Young Fly]

Damn you. You was living fast.

[Carlos Miller]

No, I'm just saying still wear them.

[Rel Howery]

Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

Not still wear them. Not. Not me. But I'm just saying, like 24 on average. 24, 25. You stop.

[DC Young Fly]

I can see that.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

You just have to like, you know,

[Rel Howery]

that's for women, though. What's the, what's men's average?

[Rory]

You want the real age.

[DC Young Fly]

Do women get the most pregnant?

[Rel Howery]

Because she threw that out really casual like.

[Daniel Cormier]

Yeah.

[Rel Howery]

23s is what they say says peak

[Rory]

male fertility is between 25 and 29. Yeah. So 23, you got two more years of just pulling out like an American.

[Carlos Miller]

I told you stop wearing the condom at 24.

[DC Young Fly]

25. Not stop.

[Rory]

But I mean, it was high school for me.

[DC Young Fly]

You be a little more liberal.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah. More free.

[Ma]

Yeah.

[DC Young Fly]

I mean, the first time to build some trust.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah.

[DC Young Fly]

First couple times.

[Ma]

Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

You get out there and test the limits a little bit.

[Ma]

But he's a millionaire. Y' all talk all this shit about these football players and how they get these women pregnant and then they're not smart. They got to pay all this child support. People just trying to use him. It's reversible. He was responsible. I'm not ready for no kids right now. I want to take care of him.

[Rel Howery]

That men and women. He's okay with diseases, though.

[DC Young Fly]

You have to better.

[Carlos Miller]

You heard, bro. That means he's okay with diseases.

[Rel Howery]

He like.

[Rory]

Yeah, boy. Is the vasectomy his beard or something? That's definitely his beard.

[Ma]

That's not his beard.

[Rel Howery]

And then get it. Get herpes.

[Carlos Miller]

You got a vasectomy and caught herpes.

[DC Young Fly]

That's something that's not reversed.

[Carlos Miller]

That's for life. That's the long ride right there.

[Ma]

The camera was not recording, but we're talking about plague boy Max getting a vasectomy at 23. It wasn't recorded when we originally recorded.

[Daniel Cormier]

Yeah, he was.

[Carlos Miller]

Oh, we got all of that. Okay, good.

[Rory]

He was just crying for his straightness. So, like, is pregnancy a huge thing in his life?

[Carlos Miller]

I don't know. I mean, he said he had a scare. A pregnancy scare.

[Ma]

Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

And that's why he got a vasectomy.

[Ma]

Man, he learned from it.

[Carlos Miller]

That scared the out of him, didn't it?

[DC Young Fly]

I didn't learn from none of my pregnancy scares.

[Carlos Miller]

You didn't?

[DC Young Fly]

Nah.

[Daniel Cormier]

Yeah.

[DC Young Fly]

Going back, I mean, I. I stopped once I made a real baby.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

That was it.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[DC Young Fly]

That's what it really takes.

[Carlos Miller]

You gotta have a child.

[DC Young Fly]

Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

Okay.

[DC Young Fly]

You gonna be scared of.

[Carlos Miller]

I mean, you know, maybe it's a woman you ain't really trying to be attached to forever.

[DC Young Fly]

It doesn't matter.

[Carlos Miller]

You still attached even if you don't have the baby.

[DC Young Fly]

Even though when you do.

[Carlos Miller]

Oh, when you do. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.

[Rel Howery]

Change.

[DC Young Fly]

They start out good and then they can change, of course, turn into a whole nother person that you don't have no idea who they are.

[Rory]

Yeah, sounds really.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah, that sounds like a. Yeah, that's

[DC Young Fly]

not something I heard. I happen to me. This is not just street information.

[Rory]

General information.

[Ma]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

We are back sponsored by Boost Mobile Unlimited talk, text and data. I am Ma.

[Rory]

And I'm Rory.

[Carlos Miller]

And we are joined by the guys, Rel Howery, Carlos Miller. Haunted heights in theater July 24. Rel. Now I've been watching you for years. I think I saw one of your first standups on cable years ago and I said, this guy is hilarious. It's funny. But now you're making your directorial debut. What is the difference for you now stepping into this box as opposed to being a stand up comic?

[Rel Howery]

Well, when I got my vasectomy, now I can't stop thinking about. That's why I got quiet. Like I've been literally thinking about you,

[Carlos Miller]

trying to understand it, his decision making at 23.

[Rel Howery]

Yeah, it just doesn't. All right. Anyway, yes, it was. It was fun to direct this movie and then like to like be able to give Carlos this role where he just kills it and show his range. It was so much fun, man. I had a great time. Like in directing is my thing now, so I ain't going nowhere.

[Rory]

Yeah, Carl, you went full Illuminati on this one. Is this your Eyes Wide Shut?

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah, I ran into Carlos outside. I told him, I said, your bed looks illustrious. Now you got a shape up. You into Hollywood now. Now you to start acting totally different now, man. Oh, I'm not now you about cuz you got a shape up. We ain't never seen Carlos with a shape up.

[Rel Howery]

You ain't.

[Carlos Miller]

You don't get no shape ups. You don't cut your bald either.

[Rel Howery]

First of all, Carlos had way more like, fades and stuff when I first met you.

[DC Young Fly]

Exactly.

[Rel Howery]

His haircut and everything was more consistent than what this is.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah, you hit that. You hit that moment where you don't give a no more, grown man. You're like, man, I ain't got time.

[Rory]

Around the time his baby mother started changing.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, Absolutely.

[Rel Howery]

Carlos used to have waves.

[DC Young Fly]

Yeah. With a nice fade.

[Rel Howery]

Yeah. It's funny how you keep. You keep a consistent haircut when you ain't got money.

[Daniel Cormier]

Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

As soon as you get money, you don't care about that.

[DC Young Fly]

You like nothing about that.

[Carlos Miller]

You know, I'm not going to the barbershop, but let's talk about Haunted Heist. Man. What is this movie? What is this movie about, bro?

[Rel Howery]

It's about four friends who kind of reunite really put together by Carlo's character, T. And everybody thought we just. Maybe just going to an Airbnb or something like that. And it turned out this is a whole nother thing going on. He basically want to rob this place, but we trying to rob a place that we think is an easy situation.

[Rory]

Easy lick.

[Rel Howery]

Yeah. But it's not because it's haunted.

[Carlos Miller]

Okay.

[Rel Howery]

I mean, the title says it all, really.

[DC Young Fly]

Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

Kept it very simple, you know, subtitles.

[Rel Howery]

You don't know what the hell. Like, when you saw weapons, you're like, you ain't always gonna be a bunch of kids running around doing that. Hunter heist is exactly what he says. Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

It's a haunted house.

[Rel Howery]

A haunted heist.

[Carlos Miller]

Now, where does this fall in the line of black comedy horrors? Because we had, you know, Leprechaun in the Hood is probably the all time classic.

[DC Young Fly]

Like, is that the metric?

[Carlos Miller]

I mean, it's a classic. I'm just putting it next to the classic.

[Rory]

And I don't even know if they in the bars.

[Rel Howery]

I don't think they meant for it to be.

[Carlos Miller]

No.

[Rel Howery]

As funny as it is.

[Carlos Miller]

No, no, no, of course not.

[Rel Howery]

Because if we do that, we can name a bunch of horror films that wasn't meant to be.

[DC Young Fly]

They had a nice budget. Yeah, it was a nice movie.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah.

[DC Young Fly]

And then Leprechaun in the Hood, and

[Carlos Miller]

he was like, yeah.

[Rel Howery]

It was like, who did this?

[DC Young Fly]

That ain't even the same leprechaun. It's Peter Dinkl

[Rel Howery]

yo.

[Rory]

That was his Mean Streets. That was his debut.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah, but where does this rank amongst the black horror comedies?

[Rel Howery]

What does it rank like, where are

[Carlos Miller]

you trying to place this? Is it trying to be its own thing or are you hoping that people enjoy it and take to it the way we've taken.

[Rel Howery]

I just want people to have fun with it, man. Like I, I don't know where it ranks. I don't know what it's going to be. I stopped doing that a long time ago with all the movies I've done. Like, I think you can't do that. You gotta let the people pick. Because things like when you think about stories like the Five Heartbeats business, right. That it didn't do well at first, but it's a class.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah.

[Rel Howery]

So you don't, you just don't. You don't know, man.

[Carlos Miller]

Right.

[Rel Howery]

So you just, you just make whatever you think is. You have fun with it and let the audience figure out whatever they want to rank stuff. But I don't know, I, I just have fun making this movie. And I was able to cast my friends. The biggest thing for me was to get stand up comedians that can act.

[Carlos Miller]

Right.

[Rel Howery]

And not just comedic actors.

[Carlos Miller]

Okay.

[Rel Howery]

You know what I'm saying? And that was a big deal to me. And that's why, that's why so many comics in the movie.

[Carlos Miller]

Tiffany Haddish is in it. Andrew Back Bachelor.

[Rel Howery]

Yeah, is in it.

[Carlos Miller]

King back.

[Rel Howery]

Tony Baker's in the movie.

[DC Young Fly]

Joe Blunt.

[Rel Howery]

Joe Blunt from Detroit. Martini Harris. Tara Terry from Chicago.

[Carlos Miller]

Where did y' all shoot?

[Rel Howery]

Detroit.

[Carlos Miller]

Oh, shit. So y' all was out there, y' all was acting up a bunch of. A bunch of black comics in Detroit shooting a movie. Yeah, that's a movie right there.

[DC Young Fly]

We had a ball.

[Rel Howery]

We had a man. We shot at Barry Gordy's first mansion.

[Rory]

That was a horror story for the four hours. Seriously.

[Rel Howery]

It was it. You laughing. It was.

[Rory]

He didn't.

[Rel Howery]

He looked like he just left. Like he kept the furniture there. And then the guy who bought it didn't change. He didn't really change anything. It was still pictures up.

[DC Young Fly]

Yeah.

[Rel Howery]

Of like the Jackson 5. Like it's. It is one of the creepiest places. It was perfect for the movie.

[DC Young Fly]

It's like an abandoned museum because you get to see like all these tour ledgers where they sent like telegrams to Barry Gordy. Like, hey, Barry, we on the road, right? Money's running out. Yeah, send us some money. You know what I mean? You see all these travel slips and hotel receipts and it's just, wow, like they got em framed and you got like original lyrics down the hall. It was this long underground corridor. He had just hundreds of like Motown pictures and Michael Jackson was over there writing lyrics on the piano and pictures Of Diana Ross while she was pregnant. You know what I mean? It was just.

[Carlos Miller]

Is this something with that look, shooting that location that, like. Was that intentional?

[Rel Howery]

Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

I mean, is there, like a connection between that in the movie?

[Rel Howery]

Well, it's not a connection specifically for that, but it was just trying to find the creepiest house you can find,

[Carlos Miller]

and you land on a Barry Cody.

[Rel Howery]

It was between that and Aretha Franklin's original house. So we scouted both those places.

[Carlos Miller]

Wow.

[DC Young Fly]

I think they just recently sold it too, though. They did, I think so.

[Rel Howery]

We had wind scouted both places, but. But Barry's was the one. He still had an old furnace. Like the furnace that. You can't even buy those type of furnaces? No, more like.

[DC Young Fly]

Like the one that the house is built around.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah, like that was there before the house.

[Rel Howery]

Yeah, it's still there.

[Carlos Miller]

Damn.

[Rory]

Okay, was Barry Gordy involved with the Michael Jackson movie? Because for his history, they made him look like Morpheus, like he was the greatest human being of all time.

[DC Young Fly]

He kind of is, though.

[Rory]

Barry Gordy was the greatest music. Exact. Probably ever.

[Rel Howery]

He probably is, though.

[Rory]

But I just feel like there's more to the Barry Gordy, Michael Jackson story than being the father figure they made him be in that movie.

[DC Young Fly]

What if it was too. Too raw to be on camera?

[Rel Howery]

Like, okay. You think it's a deeper meaning of Barry Gordy's.

[Rory]

I think, like, all music execs, Barry Gordy over a lot of people we got.

[DC Young Fly]

I think so.

[Rory]

We got greatness for it.

[Rel Howery]

He didn't. He didn't get as many complaints as all the other guys have over the years.

[Carlos Miller]

No, no. You don't hear too many of the Motown legends speak.

[Rel Howery]

Yeah.

[DC Young Fly]

I think he gave them most of their money.

[Rel Howery]

I think he. I think Barry might have been fair as he could be to the stars.

[DC Young Fly]

It was plenty of people on the Motown label who probably got some bad stories, but they weren't like, big stars, you know?

[Rory]

Jennifer Hudson was pissed in dream girls for sure. Why she got kicked out because Beyonce.

[Cal Penn]

What?

[Rory]

With the Supremes? Never saw a dream girls.

[Rel Howery]

I saw it, but you. Oh, you meant. Yeah, I mean, I'm like, why you talk about Jennifer Hudson like. I'm like, what? Jennifer Hudson Happy?

[Rory]

What was her name?

[Rel Howery]

Right. That's what I'm saying. I'm like, brother, what are you talking about?

[Rory]

They tried to touch upon some of Barry Gordy's.

[Rel Howery]

Well, it wasn't necessarily just his. It's kind of group.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Rel Howery]

That's what we learned over time.

[DC Young Fly]

Politics.

[Cal Penn]

Every.

[Rel Howery]

Every group got Some. Every. Every. I was thinking about the used to

[Rory]

be three people in this guy.

[Rel Howery]

I can't wait to see what BTS is because it's gonna be some. It always, man.

[DC Young Fly]

Who's the lost member?

[Rel Howery]

You just never know.

[Rory]

Don't listen to her, ignore her.

[DC Young Fly]

Don't ask somebody else.

[Carlos Miller]

He put too much creatine in his smoothie this morning. I don't know what he's talking about right now.

[DC Young Fly]

I'm gonna go back and find y' all missing member, man.

[Carlos Miller]

All right, so Haunted Heights rel Now, with this directorial debut of the black directors that we have in Hollywood and the movie industry, who are some of the guys that you spoke to and kind of, like, got some advice from going into this debut for you?

[Rel Howery]

I actually. Ava DuVernay is, who was somebody I spoke to, and she helped me a whole lot, and Shawn Levy, who I did Free Guy with Stranger Things and all that stuff. So, yeah, those are the two who actually answered the phone.

[Carlos Miller]

You called some other ones, but those are the two that answered.

[Rel Howery]

Yeah, those two hit me up right away and jumped on the phone with me. So I appreciate it.

[Carlos Miller]

Is this. Is this more fun in this part of moviemaking for you, or is it more stressful being a director?

[Rel Howery]

It was way more fun for me because I was busy the whole time, I think, you know, when you just acting, you kind of just sitting around and all that waiting. But when you're doing. When you're directing and doing everything, it felt good to, like, just to stay busy. And so I don't even know if I really slept for real while we were shooting it, But I had so much fun, like, really. And I'm a detailed person. Like, directing really is my thing. Like, it's. It's.

[Carlos Miller]

When did you know that, though?

[Rel Howery]

Bobcat Goldway. We had a show called Friends of the People with the Lucas Brothers and Jermaine Fowler and all those guys. I wrote a sketch, and he was like, you know how you want to shoot this? And I'm like, I don't know. You the director, however you want to shoot it. And he's like, no, this is your sketch. You know, let's figure this out together. And, man, once we did that, that's when I was like, oh, oh, this could be my thing. Because I think for a long time, I just looked at directors like Steven Spielberg and John Singleton, Spike Lee. Like, it's just some untouchable thing that I couldn't be a part of. But Bobcat put that battery in my back, and I appreciate him.

[DC Young Fly]

For that, shout out to Bobcat.

[Carlos Miller]

Legend.

[Rory]

The Legend was this tough to produce. I feel like Hollywood has kind of neglected comedy movies. Like, everything is just a reboot or a marvel. Like, we used to get comedy movies, like five a year.

[Rel Howery]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And I feel like it's one every few years. Is that tough in Hollywood to even pitch something comedic at this point?

[Rel Howery]

Hmm, that's a good question. I don't. Because, I mean, it's stuff coming out, but not to the theaters. Right. And, you know, it's one of the reasons why I leaned it to stand up comics, too, because I think that's a problem too. I don't think. I just think they kind of, like, the movies haven't been really that funny in a while, you know, I mean, nobody's taking chances on anything. But, you know, you got movies like our movie Haunted Heights. You got the movie like the Invite, which is really. It's tense and funny and all these different things. But I think it's people like Seth Rogen and it's a lot of us that still want to make these type of films. I just think. I just think you can't just wait on a green light. I think that's the thing about it. I don't know if it's just about the genre. I think people just trying to make whatever they know they think will make money right away. And what you're seeing is an independent film revolution, like what Obsession did. Come on. The people want to see what they want to see. You can't make us see whatever, you know, I mean, and people are really saying, nope, we want to see what we want to see.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah.

[Rel Howery]

And, you know, the money is killing the art, man. Yeah. It always.

[Carlos Miller]

Money is killing the art.

[Rel Howery]

I think that goes with a lot of art, too. Not even just movies and TV fashion.

[Carlos Miller]

You said the money is killing. I don't know if the money is killing the art or if it's choking it out. I think it's too much accessibility to art now.

[DC Young Fly]

I think it's people's trying to look so far, like the profit gotta be immediate. Like you were talking about, like, off camera. It's like sometimes it takes something to be. It take a while for something to be a classic.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah, yeah.

[DC Young Fly]

You seeing all these old school rappers going platinum for the first time. And, you know, they know just the way that the game is changing. It's a different appreciation. It's a like the TikTok generation. They finally discovering a lot more of the classic songs and bringing them back and putting dances to them and making these songs bigger than they ever have and, like, going back and watching old stuff. So, you know, it's. It take a while for something to become a classic, so. But I think people want the instant because there's been so many, like, instant successes.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah.

[DC Young Fly]

And they feel like if it's not an instant success, automatically, it's just. It's not ever gonna be one, which is not true.

[Rory]

Yeah. Do you feel like the. The streaming sites even take the time to push certain movies because they're kind of on to the next series movie by next week. Your point of classics taking a while. It also takes a label or network or studio to help push that over time.

[Rel Howery]

And.

[DC Young Fly]

And it has to be a demand for it, too. I mean, I don't know. It could get kind of iffy, though.

[Rel Howery]

I mean. And this thing about it. I was thinking about this today because I was thinking about. I don't know why I was thinking about my show just, you know, when I had my sitcom or whatever and I was just thinking about the older shows, like, give me a break. It was places they could fail for a season until they found their legs. You can't do that now. They expect you to be coming out the gate, just whatever, whatever. And that's. It's kind of tough, especially with comedy, too. Like, we, like, you kind of gotta be able to be able to just take some shots and things. And I don't know if that exists anymore. The patience.

[DC Young Fly]

Let it build. They don't let it build. They cutting it off after two seasons. Season. A season and a half.

[Rel Howery]

Yeah.

[DC Young Fly]

You know what I mean? Let it build.

[Rory]

Like Breaking Bad. I feel like people didn't fully. That show didn't. No pun, break, I think, till, like season three or four. Like, I went back and watched season one once it became kind of a thing. They let that rock for a few seasons where it didn't have great.

[DC Young Fly]

But you need that when you got a series, though.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah.

[Rel Howery]

Well, you got places like a amc, which that was on. Have a. They have patience with it because they're not in a. They're not in a rush for whatever that is. But when you go to these bigger places, you know. You know, everything can't be like Abbott elementary and it just hit right away. But then even with that, they had to find eight legs. You just gotta get an opportunity, and right now, it just don't exist no more. Like, sometimes you gotta go through different showrunners and writers and this and that and just finding your voice and what you're comfortable with. But that don't exist no more. Like yo, everything gotta be top notch and ready, you know. But at the same time, they don't even present things no more like they used to.

[Carlos Miller]

That's true.

[Rel Howery]

Back in the day they used to show the pilot as a special.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Rel Howery]

Just to see what people react to it. You know what I'm saying? They don't even do stuff like that no more. Yeah, only the executives watch the pilot. They used to put the pilots literally on tv, Right. And just saw how people reacted to it.

[DC Young Fly]

And so they don't even make Happy Meal toys off shows no more. In movies.

[Rel Howery]

Damn, that's real. But no, they don't.

[DC Young Fly]

They don't. No worry.

[Rory]

And now Maldemaris flight was delayed and she couldn't rebook because she didn't have service because she didn't have Boost Mobile. That proves that you don't have to over pay for great wireless.

[Carlos Miller]

Hate when that happened.

[Rory]

If she would have had Boost, she would have been home on time and wouldn't be this tired right now. And she could only pay $25 a month forever. But instead she likes to just hang out in airports with the other wireless people. We don't even mess with them.

[Carlos Miller]

So who are they?

[Rory]

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[Carlos Miller]

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[Rory]

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[Carlos Miller]

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[Rory]

Hey, it's Ryan Reynolds here from Mint Mobile. Now, I was looking for fun ways to tell you that Mint's offer of unlimited premium wireless for $15 a month month is back. So I thought it would be fun if we made 15 bills, but it turns out that's very illegal. So there goes my big idea for the commercial. Give it a [e-mail] switch upfront payment

[Ma]

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[Daniel Cormier]

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[Cal Penn]

Hey everyone, it's Cal Penn, host of Earsay, the Audible and iHeart Audiobook Club. This week on the Pod podcast, I'm sitting down with Lily Chu, the author of the Audible original romantic comedy Just Kiss Already. It's a story about a forensic anthropologist who secretly writes mystery novels, an actress who adapts his book into a film, and what happens when a meme and a media tour collide with a slow burn romance. It's performed by Simu Liu and Philippa sue, and it is an absolute blast.

[Ma]

When you actually hear the performance, you realize that other people are taking your words and what you thought was kind of a straightforward sentence like the cat in the corner is black. In my head it's the cat in the corner is black, not the dog not the gerbil, but someone else might say it. The cat in the corner is black. That's always fascinating to me how they just bring in all these different nuances and really make it fun in and interesting and distinctive.

[Cal Penn]

Listen to Earsay, the Audible and iHeart Audiobook Club on the iHeartradio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Rory]

Yeah, it's kind of crazy.

[Carlos Miller]

What's the biggest. The, I guess, transition from TV to film in y' all experience? Like, what's the one thing when you're like, okay, this is. It's a totally different thing going from TV and now actual film.

[DC Young Fly]

In my experience, I feel like the. Like, the TV is, like, a lot more faster as far as the production of it. And with the movie, you kind of get. Especially when you're on a bigger production, you kind of get a. A more of a. A window to work through. You know what I'm saying? Because sometimes in a movie, you'll get to. You'll come back and do reshoots, and then TV is pretty much what you shot, is what you got, and not unless you part of, like you said, like a series or something that's gonna be presented on a. On a big network. But TV is pretty much what you shot that day, is what they got for the TV show. You know, with a few exceptions with the pickups and stuff like that. The movie, I feel like it's more as on for me as an artist. You kind of have to clear your schedule. You kind of have to focus and lock in. It ain't just like, no, I'm a pop in and do this and be out. Like, you really have to kind of lock in, and you get to bring more elements to your character. For me, you get to build it a little bit. You get to go back and forth with the acting coach and kind of time it out, and then, you know, get with the producers and the directors and see exactly how is, you know, what's the transition and what you need to bring to it. TV is kind of more. It's more relaxed to me. From my experience, was.

[Rory]

Was Black Effect Charlemagne and Roc Nation silent partners in this entire thing, as they tend to be controlling everything in media now?

[DC Young Fly]

I don't think so.

[Rory]

You had to sign an NDA, didn't you?

[DC Young Fly]

I don't know that I'm familiar with, but I don't want to say no. And then they don't get the right credit, and then I don't get to be in the next one. You know what I'm saying.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rel Howery]

Hilarious.

[DC Young Fly]

They may have been silen part so silent that I didn't even know.

[Carlos Miller]

You didn't even see them on set.

[DC Young Fly]

Yeah, but I'm just saying if they listen and they want to be, I'm sure real will be open to talking to them. We can make this a series. A box set.

[Rel Howery]

They had nothing to do with it.

[DC Young Fly]

Right? We can go all the way up the.

[Rel Howery]

I mean, not saying I wouldn't.

[Carlos Miller]

Right.

[Rel Howery]

You know, but that's funny. That's interesting. Crazy, man.

[DC Young Fly]

No, I'll be watching this.

[Rory]

Everything.

[Rel Howery]

But that's what I'm saying. It's like, damn.

[Carlos Miller]

Think everything is a conspiracy report when it comes to.

[Rory]

I've been defending Charlemagne for the past two weeks. Even though we don't see eye to eye.

[Daniel Cormier]

I.

[Rory]

What they've been saying about Charlotte Bane is insane.

[DC Young Fly]

You on the payroll from what I heard.

[Rel Howery]

Oh, damn.

[DC Young Fly]

I don't know how y' all still partners because y' all signed the two different entities.

[Carlos Miller]

I'm not signing. Let the Internet.

[DC Young Fly]

Let the Internet say y' all signing two different you.

[Carlos Miller]

Let the Internet say I've been seeing some crazy on the Internet, but, you know, that's what the Internet's for. Speaking of crazy on the Internet, where your ovo change? I don't have ao, chin.

[DC Young Fly]

They didn't send it. No, cut that out. Can we cut that?

[Rory]

Yeah, no, that's gonna be the clip.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah, we. We gonna leave with that one. Speaking of.

[Rory]

And don't do that, because I saw you at Yankee Stadium yesterday.

[DC Young Fly]

He was dead.

[Rory]

Not at the J. He was.

[Carlos Miller]

He. Well, I asked Drake if I could go to the Yankee game yesterday, so he gave me permission to go see the.

[DC Young Fly]

Get dissed.

[Carlos Miller]

I had to go, boo la.

[Rory]

You know, they're gonna flip that and make it seem like you're not being something.

[DC Young Fly]

You're getting dissed on the next album. Yeah, absolutely not like sneak disses.

[Carlos Miller]

Speaking of. I forgot the. We was talking about. But I was talking about. We talking about crazy clips and.

[Rel Howery]

And.

[Carlos Miller]

And footages during the pandemic. Now, this is somebody. This is another castmate of Yalls in the movie Haunted Heist. King back. He had a very King batch.

[Rel Howery]

Batch is Batch.

[Carlos Miller]

Batch.

[DC Young Fly]

Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

King batch. King Bach had one of the most interesting videos during. Was this the pandemic or was this.

[Rory]

This was definitely.

[Carlos Miller]

This is pandemic.

[DC Young Fly]

Right?

[Rory]

Pandemic.

[Carlos Miller]

Peak pandemic.

[DC Young Fly]

He don't look like that no more.

[Carlos Miller]

I hope he's ripped.

[DC Young Fly]

He ripped like action figure now.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah, well, I mean, he Was ripped here, but it was ripped with words.

[Rel Howery]

Batch is, like, ripped. He looks like he should be in a Rocky movie. Well, he's been in early 80s Rocky movie. Like, not the new hollow creed.

[Carlos Miller]

I've seen him in the gym with one of the. One of those super workout guys. I forgot who it was, and I was like, okay. Like, he hasn't left it gym. No, he stayed in the gym. No, you never. He never. This is his Black lives Matter. I wonder if, like, a Chipotle. If ra. If this was a pitch Pharrell's haunted heist movie.

[DC Young Fly]

No, this ain't got nothing to do with it.

[Rel Howery]

Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

Did y'.

[Cal Penn]

All.

[Carlos Miller]

And did y' all ask him about this?

[DC Young Fly]

If I would have known, I would have.

[Carlos Miller]

You never seen this?

[DC Young Fly]

No. Can we press play? You know how you follow your partners

[Carlos Miller]

on social and you miss something?

[DC Young Fly]

Every time I see somebody like, yeah. Doing too much with this shirt off. Nipples. You skip over on the beach or some like you. You want. You frolicking? Yeah, I'm skipping that, bro. Just respect for our friendship.

[Rel Howery]

Who would know?

[DC Young Fly]

You ain't supposed to.

[Rel Howery]

I know. I don't think I saw this, though.

[Carlos Miller]

You never seen this?

[DC Young Fly]

Well, we.

[Carlos Miller]

We. Let's play for the black man was

[Rel Howery]

killed, but destroying these buildings has to stop.

[Ma]

Sorry.

[Carlos Miller]

Destroying these buildings is the least of your worries. An innocent black man should never be

[Daniel Cormier]

killed by a cop.

[Rel Howery]

They say, Patrick, you shouldn't speak up, man. You might lose some of your brand deals.

[Carlos Miller]

My people have been dying to injustice for centuries. I don't give a damn how a brand feels.

[DC Young Fly]

You know what's funny about this is because I know he.

[Rory]

I don't think anything's funny about it.

[DC Young Fly]

He had, like, five white girls at his house when he recorded this.

[Carlos Miller]

That's why he had the door closed.

[Rel Howery]

I was like, how much of this

[DC Young Fly]

y' all gonna make us watch?

[Ma]

Yeah.

[DC Young Fly]

I don't even know if this was public. Was this on his close friends? I've never seen.

[Rory]

Oh, this was on Buzzfeed. Yeah, man, ain't no way this is on Huffington Post.

[Carlos Miller]

I can't believe y' all never saw that during the pandemic.

[DC Young Fly]

I'm glad I didn't.

[Rory]

I mean, my favorite part is that's at least take three because his chest is red from when he was doing.

[Rel Howery]

Well.

[Rory]

That was not the first.

[Rel Howery]

To be fair, for the moment of the time, it was happening. Like, yeah, people ignorant now. Like, y'.

[Carlos Miller]

All.

[Rel Howery]

Don't y' all go laughing some. This brother trying to.

[Carlos Miller]

No, I laugh.

[Rel Howery]

He tried to make a statement.

[Carlos Miller]

I laughed as soon as he uploaded that during the pandemic.

[Rel Howery]

That's a damn shame, y'.

[Daniel Cormier]

All.

[DC Young Fly]

Terrible.

[Ma]

Yeah.

[DC Young Fly]

Yeah. How are we gonna defend that?

[Carlos Miller]

You can't defend that.

[Ma]

You just got.

[Carlos Miller]

That's what all that was for. You got to look back at that and, like, laugh.

[Rel Howery]

I can't do that.

[Carlos Miller]

The movie's out, right?

[Rel Howery]

Well, the movie's out. No, but that's not. But see, he meant well. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Cal Penn]

He.

[Rel Howery]

He meant well. And it's. It's unfortunate. Even though we laughing at it, it's like we still. In these times, like, where people still think that is a joke. And he tried. He tried. Just in general, though. Just in general. Just in general. It's crazy watching that and then being like, oh, yeah, let's just. Let's still talk about George Floyd and for no reason and. Right. That's why I look at that like,

[DC Young Fly]

I'm looking at it too, because I know a white girl wrote that on

[Rory]

tell by the handwriting.

[DC Young Fly]

I've been over his house. He got right women over there washing dishes, all types of real.

[Rory]

Trying to be serious.

[DC Young Fly]

He might be legit mad, but he's getting.

[Carlos Miller]

No, he's mad.

[DC Young Fly]

He getting his reparation.

[Carlos Miller]

It definitely was some white women that helped with the penmanship.

[Rel Howery]

Right.

[DC Young Fly]

Getting his reparations. Trust me, I. I seen them.

[Rory]

Getting your eyebrows done during the pandemic is funny. Like you in your crib.

[DC Young Fly]

They. They up, man.

[Rel Howery]

Think about it. I can't. I can't. Y' all roasted A. And not his face.

[Rory]

Oh, no. Now that you told me he took steroids. I take everything.

[Rel Howery]

You see how he just put.

[Rory]

I agree with the. That was more. I agree with the message. I think his eyebrows are great.

[Rel Howery]

Wait, who's probably steroids? Nobody said that.

[Carlos Miller]

No, he didn't take steroids. He. He was in the gym here. But I mean, obviously that was six years ago, so I want. I'm sure now he's put on a lot more, man.

[DC Young Fly]

He buff Michael B. Jordan type.

[Carlos Miller]

Now I want to see his role in this. In this film.

[Rel Howery]

Yeah, I mean, good.

[Carlos Miller]

But he's one of the guys that I think is actually a good actor.

[Rel Howery]

Yeah, Batch is really good. Yeah, he's good.

[DC Young Fly]

He did his.

[Carlos Miller]

A lot of the, like, comedic Instagram comedies, comedians, I don't really like, but he's one of the guys that I

[Rel Howery]

think Batch is actually really, really fucking good.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah, I think he is. I think he has a. He has a career in acting. For sure. Because that was.

[Rel Howery]

I mean, yeah, he's had a career actor. He's been doing pretty good.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah, he said he.

[Rel Howery]

You said it like, oh, man, he got potential.

[Carlos Miller]

No, no, I'm just saying he hasn't had. He hasn't had, like, a breakout role that people know him for or like,

[DC Young Fly]

but I think that 12 movies.

[Rel Howery]

Yeah, he was on, like, the. He was in, like, the popular babysitter joints. The, the, the.

[Carlos Miller]

I remember that.

[Rel Howery]

Like, the teenagers love, like, you know what's funny? We always base on what we only, like. Like other people ain't watching.

[Carlos Miller]

Oh, yeah. That's what we do.

[Ma]

Very true.

[Rel Howery]

Which is insane.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah, that's just. That's part of.

[Rel Howery]

But it's insane. It is like, I got te right? Like, I don't watch Love island, but it's popular.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah. I don't watch anything. Why you say island like that?

[Rel Howery]

Like, why you.

[DC Young Fly]

Bro, that's 22 movies right there.

[Rel Howery]

Yeah, yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

Like, people make fun of Meet the Blacks. I remember. I remember his role in that.

[DC Young Fly]

This did like, 30 movies.

[Carlos Miller]

Not you surprising. In real time. Real, like. Yeah, just. Let's not say that too loud. His budget might be a little. What, for batch?

[DC Young Fly]

No, that rich.

[Rel Howery]

Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

No, no, no, no.

[Rel Howery]

I called and asked for a favor. I asked this for a favor. I asked Tiffany for a favor. These are all.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah, I like that. Do me this favor. We shooting Haunted Heights show up in Detroit at Barry Gordy's house.

[Rel Howery]

Seriously, I don't have any money. Could you do this?

[DC Young Fly]

I. With real. I'm telling you. Yeah, yeah.

[Rel Howery]

The budget wasn't much at all, so for all of them to actually say yes was dope.

[Carlos Miller]

How long did it take to. From start to finish?

[Rel Howery]

We did 18 days. It was scheduled to do 18 days, and we. We got it in 18 days.

[Carlos Miller]

Oh, that's because, you know, I mean, you. Y' all done on TV and film. It don't go like that all the time. You schedule 18 days, you could hit 25, 28 days. That's what.

[DC Young Fly]

See, they ain't gonna tell you this. Rare was not bullshitting on his director. He said 18 days.

[Carlos Miller]

18 days.

[Rel Howery]

18. I really pre planned for real, like. But that's why I like, talking to somebody like, Sean Levy was important because, like, when we was doing Free Guy, he was so organized. Yeah, he was so organized. We talking about it was like flamethrowers, all types of shit on set, but he was just organized. So we didn't have to, you know, those type of problems. The same thing talking to David Duvernay, like those two talking to them. I talked to two very organized directors. And so just having your together before you do is very important.

[Carlos Miller]

Like, seriously, before everybody shows up, you know what it is.

[Rel Howery]

Yep. You have those meetings and you. You get it in, you talk it out. So. Because just in case something goes wrong, you're prepared for it. Yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

Shane Gillis just broke the Guinness Book world record of the highest attendance of stand up can stand up like work.

[Rel Howery]

70,070, almost.

[Rory]

Some like that can stand up like work in a stadium like that. Stand up is somewhat like intimate. Even if it is 2, 000 people in there.

[DC Young Fly]

It already worked.

[Rory]

Yeah, well, no, of course. I mean, it happened, but yeah. Is that like a different type of show? I feel like, absolutely, because I. I've seen Stand up in the Garden and it was definitely a different experience than when I would go watch in comedy.

[Rel Howery]

It all depends too the comic, because Andrew Dice, I mean, he didn't do those numbers. Yeah, but like Steve Martin, Andrew Dice, Clay, Kevin, like, it's people that's done. And I think he just had the most people. I'm always interested because I've never been to a show like one of those shows. Sometimes I want to just sit in the audience and see what that feels like. Like, is it even enjoyable?

[Daniel Cormier]

Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

To see like a comedy show with that many people?

[Rel Howery]

Well, no, just one. That one person, like depending on who they are. Like, I feel like Eddie Murphy. Eddie is somebody who, because of the type of comedy he does, like, always looked at Eddie as doing arena comedy in a way.

[Rory]

Yeah, I hear what you're saying.

[Rel Howery]

You know what I'm saying? Like, but a Shane Gill is like, is he just doing Trump the whole time?

[Rory]

And he brought out Chappelle. I saw that. That was the one clip he cheated.

[Ma]

Oh, that's all.

[DC Young Fly]

Yeah. It's cheating, man.

[Ma]

That's cheating.

[Rory]

I mean, but if Chappelle is down to come on stage, I'm not gonna say no.

[Rel Howery]

Then Chappelle always gonna say Chappelle, like hitting the stage.

[DC Young Fly]

They got a hell of a budget. You sold 76000 tickets.

[Rel Howery]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Rory]

Or maybe it was a favor.

[DC Young Fly]

I doubt it. I don't give a how much somebody love you. If you walk out there and see that many people, they're like, you gonna give me something? I'm leaving it with something.

[Rory]

I mean, Chappelle owing Shane a favor

[DC Young Fly]

is funny, but I mean, Dave Chappelle real like that. Cause I went to his summer camp and he said, man, means it really meant a lot that you came out here in the middle of nowhere to. With me. Say, if you ever need a favor, just make sure it's good. Don't call me for no bullshit.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah. You got one favorite.

[DC Young Fly]

You got one. He said you get one.

[Rel Howery]

Yeah, most cats.

[DC Young Fly]

Let me do it. I'm gonna bring him out, too.

[Rel Howery]

I remember Jay Z said that to me one time. I was trying to, like, get Roc Nation to do my comedy album.

[Rory]

I told you, bro.

[Rel Howery]

And it's just a true story, though. And he's like, well, you know, Miss Tina love you, mama. Tina love you. So we, you know, we gotta look out for you. He's like, but, but, you know, pick your favor.

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah, it's only one.

[Rel Howery]

I remember being like, all right, never mind, then.

[Carlos Miller]

That's too much pressure. I only got one.

[Rel Howery]

Let me think about that. Like, let me get. Let me wait another 15 to 20 years.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah. When I really need a.

[Rel Howery]

Be the favor.

[Daniel Cormier]

Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

Right now, I'm all right. But I'm like, let me hold this favor in my back pocket.

[Rel Howery]

And most people don't think about that. Like. And I, I, I actually make sure I tell people that with me. Like, yo, be sure what you asking me for?

[Ma]

Yeah.

[Rel Howery]

Cause I ain't doing this again.

[Daniel Cormier]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Don't waste it on the street.

[Rel Howery]

You want this to be it. And people don't believe you when you say that.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah.

[Rel Howery]

I told one of the homies that, like, I built him out of jail. I told him. But his wife. I said, look, man, I got you. Yeah, but if you go back, fam. And they called me crying because he went back in. I was like, y' all thought I was playing that in there.

[DC Young Fly]

It's over with.

[Rory]

Has anything crossed your mind for the Chappelle favor? And you went, nah, I'll wait. Like, put the phone down.

[Carlos Miller]

Not yet.

[DC Young Fly]

I think I might. I'm the type of person, I might not never ask for it.

[Carlos Miller]

It's just the just knowing that.

[DC Young Fly]

Knowing that it.

[Carlos Miller]

You know what I mean?

[DC Young Fly]

That I'm one in with him is good enough.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Yeah. Have you spoke to. To D.C. since the. The Ross shot on the last album?

[DC Young Fly]

Of course.

[Rory]

What was his reaction to it?

[DC Young Fly]

I'm gonna have to let him come tell you.

[Rel Howery]

What did he. But so what. What did Ross say, though?

[Carlos Miller]

He just spoke about. Well, he. He. He said he. He walk off on Goofy Niggas.

[DC Young Fly]

All you DC Young flies get one time.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah, for real.

[Rory]

That's his one favorite.

[Carlos Miller]

Talking about the walk off on 85.

[Rel Howery]

So off these Old. Not even just rappers, comedians and all these. These. They really in a midlife crisis for sure. We're seeing like the entertainers we know for a while, they aging and they being weird.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah. Because they don't know which side they want to, you know.

[DC Young Fly]

Yeah.

[Rel Howery]

That's what it is. It's kind of. It's just really uncomfortably weird to watch that. Like, that's a shot for no reason.

[Carlos Miller]

I still don't understand, but I like the. You know, dc, he posted something on his. On his. On his. On his Instagram and basically just listen and laughing. But I know what that laugh is like. He's gearing up to. To do something. It's like, okay, I'm gonna have to get into my comedic. You know, I'm.

[DC Young Fly]

I don't think it was a comedic thing. I don't think his response. I don't think the response that he's thinking is comedic. I think he's thinking more on the music side because, you know, D.C. real serious about his music and he's extremely talented in both avenues.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah.

[DC Young Fly]

And I don't think it's like, you know, we looking at it as like just a rapper throwing a shot at a comedian, but he looking at it as way more than that, way bigger than that.

[Rory]

It's a good time too, because it's like a challenge.

[DC Young Fly]

It's like, I'm gonna say something to you and you can't. You don't have the platform or the avenue to say anything back outside of some goofy shit. Yeah, that's not the case.

[Rel Howery]

Goofy ass nigga. Come on, Ross, you can do better than that.

[Rory]

That is what Ross wants. Like. Like, because I. Do you really think he's been harboring that for real or is Ross is doing what he does when he needs to promote album?

[DC Young Fly]

No, I think he been sitting on that.

[Rel Howery]

I think he has too, actually.

[DC Young Fly]

I think this is not the first time that he exchanged. You know, they did the whole in the pool shit.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah, yeah, I remember that.

[DC Young Fly]

See, it's not the first time. So I feel like this shit is kind of festering. Like it's. It's really bothering him. Maybe it's not to the point where he's bothered, but I think it does bother him.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah, for sure.

[Rel Howery]

I mean, it's like him at 50 in a way. Right? Like.

[Rory]

Like you.

[Rel Howery]

Like, when is this ever going to stop?

[Rory]

But that was also Ross doing some weird. He had no issue with. 50 khed was like, yo, it'll help sell the album. Go dis 50. That's what started it. There wasn't no real issue.

[DC Young Fly]

So.

[Ma]

Ma, do you consider that line a diss?

[Rel Howery]

That's a diss to you?

[DC Young Fly]

Of course it is.

[Cal Penn]

Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

He called him a goofy ass, basically.

[Cal Penn]

Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

What else that be? That's a shame shot. That's not like a. That's a shot.

[Rel Howery]

I was wondering.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah, I'm walking off on you goofy. That act funny all you DC young flies get one time.

[Rel Howery]

I mean.

[DC Young Fly]

Yeah, he hopping bob ass don't cross the gun line.

[Carlos Miller]

The.

[Rel Howery]

That mean hopping bob ass don't cross the gun line. Is this threatening to shoot my over some what? I put a bob across the out of here with this.

[Carlos Miller]

This.

[DC Young Fly]

I didn't know it was guns being drawn.

[Rel Howery]

God damn.

[Carlos Miller]

He's serious too.

[Rory]

He knows the real Nora. No, he owes him a 100 favors.

[DC Young Fly]

No, he doesn't.

[Rel Howery]

That act funny all you DC young flies get one time hopping pop ass don't cross the gun line.

[DC Young Fly]

You gonna get dissed on the next album.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah, bro.

[Rel Howery]

He give.

[DC Young Fly]

I just think the timing of this is weird, cuz I just went to his car show and brought some cars out, won some awards.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah.

[DC Young Fly]

But I didn't know that this was coming. I would have if I would have known he was trying to shoot my partner. That's going Now I'm in the.

[Rel Howery]

I look up. He spoke to you like yo. L. I appreciate it.

[Rory]

N. He let you hear the ear.

[Rel Howery]

He wait till.

[DC Young Fly]

I don't like that though. And I a. I didn't like the. The walk off. I don't know what the dude got going on.

[Rory]

On. Did y' all speak at the car show?

[DC Young Fly]

No, I didn't even go over there.

[Rory]

Okay.

[DC Young Fly]

The car show was huge. There's thousands of people out there.

[Rel Howery]

He knew you was gonna be. I was there.

[DC Young Fly]

He was on the stage. But I didn't never go over there and be like, yo, what's up, bro?

[Rel Howery]

Like this. Wait till you hear that city boy.

[Rory]

And you know how Atlanta is running bad guy too.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah, yeah.

[DC Young Fly]

Don't put me in the.

[Rel Howery]

I didn't.

[DC Young Fly]

I didn't appreciate it.

[Rel Howery]

Ross do got a perfect bad guy voice. We should have used that.

[DC Young Fly]

That's up, man.

[Rory]

I mean, I'm glad there was a lot of people there because when he was using us to sell the car show tickets, I was like, man, this is the last marketing scheme. Tickets must be really slow if. If we're the.

[Carlos Miller]

No, but Carlos was there with his cause.

[DC Young Fly]

Hey, man.

[Rel Howery]

Didn't get showed up. Like one thing for free wings stop for everybody. To come check out these cars.

[DC Young Fly]

Just cuz somebody. Just because somebody do some flow don't mean you gotta do something back.

[Rory]

For sure. That's true.

[Carlos Miller]

I live by that.

[Rel Howery]

Yeah, it's funny too because I thought. I think what D.C. already kind of did is enough. It's like, all right, yeah. Cause I think everybody's kind of listened to. Like why are you still bringing very, very odd up.

[Carlos Miller]

Very odd. Yeah.

[Rel Howery]

You walked off a day show, right?

[DC Young Fly]

We didn't do to you.

[Carlos Miller]

You had this product there, chips, drink, all kind of shit,

[DC Young Fly]

you know.

[Carlos Miller]

Now don't cross the gun line.

[DC Young Fly]

No worrying.

[Rory]

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[Cal Penn]

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[Ma]

There was only one character that immediately we were like, we need Richard Kyne for this. We had written this love addict, this neurotic love addiction. And originally we were just calling him General Richard Kind. And he was like, could you change my name? I don't necessarily want to be associated with this freak. And we were happy to do that.

[Cal Penn]

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[DC Young Fly]

But I don't cross the gun line.

[Rel Howery]

I live down the street from this.

[DC Young Fly]

Where is the gun line? Exactly.

[Rel Howery]

He's over there. My mother, parents. Cause I own animals.

[DC Young Fly]

Am I good? Am I good? Am I. Am I good? Or am I one of the goofy ass.

[Carlos Miller]

It's doofy ass niggas.

[DC Young Fly]

He didn't even say my name. All you goofy ass. But dc, you got one time. Everybody else with a podcast.

[Rel Howery]

All you goof ass with DC Young Fly, you down to your last straight.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah.

[Rel Howery]

Post about the fun man.

[DC Young Fly]

Somebody plugged me with 50 we need. I need to get. I don't want 50 cent on the show. I want pimping Curly as a guest.

[Rel Howery]

That's all they do.

[DC Young Fly]

Try to make a don't look good. Stop, man. Hey, man.

[Carlos Miller]

We lay here calling calls like I live down the street from this Nevada. Where's the gun line?

[DC Young Fly]

Should I take the other side? Should I come up the other side? But what I like the way that I go.

[Rel Howery]

It's faster.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Rel Howery]

Hold on. You remember. You gotta remember this. Remember Living Color did this kit about. About Arcenial hall stalker Eddie Murphy with that long ass. Yeah, that's what this feel like.

[DC Young Fly]

Carlos.

[Rel Howery]

Oh, I'mma get you. Carlos. You better tell DC Young Fly I'm coming for, man. Liver Featherweight Flats. Red Stress City Carrots. Carlos.

[DC Young Fly]

Don't say my name, man. Stop, stop, stop, man.

[Carlos Miller]

This is.

[DC Young Fly]

I didn't.

[Rel Howery]

I Don't know.

[Rory]

I need to see the script of Rick Ross.

[DC Young Fly]

I don't condone this type of behavior, man. Whatever D.C. is cooking up, it will be independent on his own.

[Rel Howery]

Yeah.

[DC Young Fly]

He has not used to call us. He hasn't sent me no beats or nothing. I'm not featured on nothing.

[Rel Howery]

Yeah, but goofy funny better watch out. Russ is back. You.

[DC Young Fly]

You got to be an evil to hate laughing though.

[Rel Howery]

I hate comedy.

[DC Young Fly]

What the happened man?

[Rel Howery]

What happened?

[Carlos Miller]

We started taking ourselves too seriously, man. That's what happened.

[DC Young Fly]

Even when they was doing the exchange, D.C. kept it light.

[Rel Howery]

Yeah, yeah.

[DC Young Fly]

The came back and he was in the pool. Little homie. I did it for free.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah, that was his favor.

[Rory]

But that's where the aging gracefully has changed with Ross because like the DJ envious. Like that was hilarious. Like Ross used to be funny with trolls. Now to me it's just odd. Like you going a little too.

[Rel Howery]

It do feel like. It do feel like some immaturity in it in a weird way. Like, you know, because I enjoy watching 50 do what 50 do. Cause it just seemed like whatever it

[DC Young Fly]

is real with you. It's just not gangster. It's not gangster to be for comedians. We. We don't take this shit serious enough for you, right? For you to be that upset.

[Rel Howery]

Yeah, but you got a river sir. I'll never forget. It hasn't always been rappers that was fucking comedians. So when Eddie Murphy was doing James Brown all the time. If you go listen to living in America for no reason. James Brown, hell's out. Eat your heart out. Eddie Murphy for no fucking reason. I swear to God, for no reason. He just yells out eat your heart out. Eddie Murphy in the middle of living in America. Like he was sick of Eddie Murphy doing.

[Rory]

He was on his heels with party

[Carlos Miller]

all the time Eddie Murphy, eat your heart out to the bridge.

[Rel Howery]

It didn't make any sense. If you listen to the whole song, you just hear you feeling it living

[Ma]

in

[Rel Howery]

real profound message and get or nothing.

[Carlos Miller]

I know Eddie had to love that.

[DC Young Fly]

Even with comedians is lame. It don't go nowhere crazy. Only comedians can beef with comedians, man.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah, it is odd when.

[Rel Howery]

And that's stupid too.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah.

[DC Young Fly]

N. That is entertaining. Still that Joe Rogan, Carlos Messia.

[Rel Howery]

That was crazy.

[Rory]

Yeah, that was pretty funny that they put the Mexican music behind him when he's like that. I laugh. I laughed.

[DC Young Fly]

Come on, man. Ross ain't gonna make it that fun. It's. I don't know. We'll see.

[Rel Howery]

Because he. Because think about this. Ross couldn't keep it like, light. Because if he would have just did those two lines, maybe it have been okay. But then you start throwing gun line in there.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah.

[DC Young Fly]

Don't cross the gun line.

[Rel Howery]

Where is he? Why you throwing that?

[DC Young Fly]

I'm about to start going all the way around. I'm not. Man. He watched this show, too. He watch y'. All.

[Carlos Miller]

He to used. He used to.

[DC Young Fly]

He still do. He tap in.

[Carlos Miller]

Well, now that we've said his name. Somebody sent him clips. Yeah, for sure.

[Rel Howery]

Yeah.

[DC Young Fly]

He's like. Yeah. I don't think he.

[Rel Howery]

Baby.

[DC Young Fly]

Who's one of y'?

[Cal Penn]

All?

[DC Young Fly]

He's one of y'.

[Daniel Cormier]

All.

[DC Young Fly]

He don't with. I don't. You know, I don't give a. I think it's you.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah, probably.

[DC Young Fly]

I think it's you.

[Carlos Miller]

You know, Nubian or Nubian crime, you know?

[DC Young Fly]

You know, that's. Yeah, yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

We hate each other. He added my.

[Rory]

My baby mother.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah.

[DC Young Fly]

You got one time. Don't cross the gun line.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

You can't cross the gun.

[Rel Howery]

It'd be funny if he had, like, a bunch of tags for. Oh, yeah. He just went with D.C. like all that in with the gun line.

[DC Young Fly]

Rory and now will never be pals.

[Rel Howery]

Don't be hopping across the gun line. We'll keep that. We'll just do different. Punch me in.

[Cal Penn]

Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah. Push me in.

[DC Young Fly]

Oh, man.

[Rory]

Holy.

[DC Young Fly]

I can't take that serious, man. I don't know.

[Carlos Miller]

I don't take none of this serious. So once these cameras turn off, niggas go home. I don't pay it no more.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[DC Young Fly]

Cause you live in New York, and you don't have to worry about crossing the gun line.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah. That's a fact. In New York, you don't have to worry about crossing gun. Now, you, on the other hand, though.

[DC Young Fly]

I mean, I'm right there.

[Carlos Miller]

You right there.

[Rel Howery]

You right down the street, dirt road.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah. It's different for you.

[DC Young Fly]

I'm going to say. It's just like two lefts and a right.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah. Now you got to make two rights and the left.

[Rel Howery]

Now you got to.

[DC Young Fly]

I'm have to go all the way around.

[Rory]

New gas station, everything, man.

[Rel Howery]

Make two rights to the left. D.C. young, fly, goofy ass. I'll see you at the gas station.

[Rory]

This is gonna be Ross's voice on his gps. Who changed these things?

[Rel Howery]

Make a rattle chestnut.

[DC Young Fly]

I don't like that he gotta come up. He gotta leave my little partner alone, man. My little brother.

[Carlos Miller]

He'd be all right, man. It's just, you know, let's just ending.

[Rel Howery]

That was very random. I will leave it at this. I'm glad he knows it now. Hopefully watching y' all show if how insane that is just to do that.

[DC Young Fly]

And it's DC Height. It's not somebody you can even stay mad at.

[Rel Howery]

It was nothing rapper about it. It's.

[DC Young Fly]

It's not gangster. We just going to have to vote.

[Carlos Miller]

It's all supposed to be in fun and just let's laugh a little bit like you said. Who don't want to laugh?

[DC Young Fly]

Come on, man. You hate laughter.

[Rory]

Ross made a six minute. Dis was fake.

[Rel Howery]

You trying to be funny, huh?

[Ma]

Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

Oh, yeah, bro. He gonna be on you for sure. You gonna be on the job.

[Rel Howery]

I'm g. Tell the gds no.

[DC Young Fly]

Oh, man, you. You just crossed the gun.

[Rel Howery]

Just cross a gun line.

[DC Young Fly]

Don't put.

[Rel Howery]

Can we cut that one?

[Rory]

He did say Larry Hoover in a song. Pissed about that when he mentioned it in bmf.

[Rel Howery]

Doing that. Like when you just naming people.

[Carlos Miller]

Oh, yeah.

[Rel Howery]

I'm kind of crazy.

[Carlos Miller]

You can't do that rap or not. You ain't supposed to do nothing like that. Horning Heist, July 24th.

[Rory]

What you expect about a guy that names himself Rick Ross? He can't feel like he's big me for Larry Hoover that day.

[Carlos Miller]

That is true.

[Rory]

Like the Village People. He just dresses up as different drug dealers depending the day.

[Carlos Miller]

We gonna go see this movie as.

[Rel Howery]

Please go see this movie. It's independent films. Support independent filmmaking. You know what I mean?

[DC Young Fly]

Man, buy some popcorn, too, and a drink.

[Rel Howery]

And the extra butter's on me.

[Rory]

Bring Wingstop into the theater.

[Carlos Miller]

July 24th. Rel, real quick, before we let y' all go, what are some of the things that. Because, as you know, coming up, in our communities, we always just look at the roles of acting or being an athlete. Like, what are some of the things that, you know, a lot of the young kids should look into, if it's not acting, but getting into movie making and tv, some of the role and things that they should look into.

[Rel Howery]

Learn all this stuff, man, like all the. Behind us, you know, And I want to figure out a program. Hopefully I. I'll figure this out in another year or so. But it's so many different roles, man. It's so important. Lighting to everything. Writing, writing, like cameraman. I think we only. They only know the building star part of it, but you could be a star.

[DC Young Fly]

These other fields, there's unions for all of this, man.

[Rel Howery]

Everything.

[DC Young Fly]

People who build the sets, man, get in the props. We need black, black prop masters, man.

[Rel Howery]

We need more Black stun.

[DC Young Fly]

Hell, yeah. Learn how to finance a movie, right?

[Rel Howery]

Yeah.

[Ma]

Intimacy coordinators.

[DC Young Fly]

Intimacy coordinator. That is a great job for somebody who is a hoe.

[Cal Penn]

Okay.

[Ma]

Whoa, Jesus.

[DC Young Fly]

No, I'm saying, like, if you promiscuous in these streets.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah.

[DC Young Fly]

You will be good as an intimacy coordinator.

[Rel Howery]

Intimacy coordinators are some of the most random people. You.

[DC Young Fly]

Yeah, because you got to make it look real.

[Rel Howery]

Well, it depends on what city you from, what type of coordinator. Like, if. Like, if you. If you get intimacy coordinated from, like, New York or la, like, they're more into whatever TV or film. But if you go to, like, some random city you shooting at, you really don't know where this lady came from. Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, when you're in Vancouver, like, you

[Rel Howery]

know, I mean, you don't know why they show up. You'd be like, see, when y' all kiss.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah.

[Rel Howery]

You supposed to be talking to us like that.

[DC Young Fly]

You gotta put your nuts in the sock.

[Rel Howery]

Now do it in front of me.

[DC Young Fly]

You need a nylon sock.

[Rel Howery]

Yeah, yeah. I've had some NTBC coordinators that made me feel. Feel uncomfortable.

[Rory]

We're gonna shoot the rehearsal.

[Daniel Cormier]

Yeah.

[Rory]

In the trailer. It had.

[Rel Howery]

I think we did have. Well, let me say yes. Yes, we did.

[Ma]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

Of course. Of course.

[Rel Howery]

Of course we did.

[Carlos Miller]

Damn right we did.

[Daniel Cormier]

Yeah.

[DC Young Fly]

Damn.

[Rory]

Two meals.

[DC Young Fly]

You can make 50 to $90,000 being an intimacy coordinator. Yeah, that's. Damn.

[Rory]

You do that with only fans making a lot of money.

[Rel Howery]

The movie I just shot just shot this thriller, and it was, you know, whatever sex scenes or whatever we actually had. She was a good intimacy coordinator. She wasn't weird. She was cool. She made sure, like, you know, the crew wasn't, like, looking at us and putting our giving up. She was good. I actually liked her a lot. But I've literally worked with some other ones that was more creepy than. Yeah, okay.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah.

[Rel Howery]

So show me how y' all gonna hug.

[DC Young Fly]

So if I put my hands right here, tell me how they make you feel. That's okay.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah.

[DC Young Fly]

Now lift her leg up with her leg.

[Rel Howery]

Now, if you lick your ch.

[Ma]

Okay.

[Rel Howery]

You ain't supposed to be saying O lady. Okay.

[DC Young Fly]

Don't lick the nipple. Just the areola.

[Rel Howery]

And action. Like, you ain't supposed to be yelling.

[Daniel Cormier]

Action.

[Rel Howery]

Get the offset. I tell you what.

[DC Young Fly]

I tell you what.

[Carlos Miller]

I'm gonna lay in the bed with y'.

[Daniel Cormier]

All.

[DC Young Fly]

I'mma get in with y'.

[Rory]

All.

[Carlos Miller]

So we.

[Rel Howery]

We all. We in a cup.

[Rory]

She just pop up.

[Rel Howery]

Oh, okay. God, the. You doing Elisa? I'm just making sure the intimacy is Coordinated.

[DC Young Fly]

Just making sure nothing's touching under the sheet.

[Rory]

You remember we had. We had Chris Gotti on. He directed a movie for. For Tubi. And we were having that conversation about. He was like, yeah, it was me and Lance Stevenson. We were the intimacy coordinators. Like, I don't know if that's legal.

[Rel Howery]

Lance Stevenson, intimacy coordinators.

[Rory]

He's the one directing the sex scene.

[Rel Howery]

Yo, that's insane. Now slap her ass. Harder. Harder.

[Rory]

I think Chris Gotti said he showed up to set late and he was like, no, we redoing this whole sex scene. Now I'm in charge.

[DC Young Fly]

They definitely crossed the gun line for sure.

[Carlos Miller]

100%. That was the start of coordinator right there. That was the start of l gotta

[Rel Howery]

have some ear blowing, man.

[Carlos Miller]

Haunted Heights, July 24th. Real How Ricardos Miller. Fellas, thank y' all for coming through. We appreciate y'. All. We're going to check out the movie and have some fun and next time y' all in New York, come back and talk some with us.

[DC Young Fly]

Appreciate y' all having us.

[Carlos Miller]

I'm that he's just Ginger. Haunted Heights, July 24th. Go see that and don't cross the gun line.

[DC Young Fly]

No worry now.

[Cal Penn]

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[Ma]

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[DC Young Fly]

Big transfer news today.

[Rel Howery]

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[Carlos Miller]

Any pizza, any toppings?

[Cal Penn]

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[Rel Howery]

It's a long term contract with no release clause.

[Rory]

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[Cal Penn]

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[Rel Howery]

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[DC Young Fly]

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[Ma]

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