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Host 1
No worry.
Rory
All right, Rory. Today we are back back, joined by another friend of the show, somebody that we probably talked about the last 15 years of our lives, I guess something like that.
Ryan Reynolds
It's been that long?
Rory
Probably. Well, I feel like we've been podcasting for like 20 years.
Host 1
Yeah.
Ryan Reynolds
@ this point. Yeah.
Rory
Gentleman that we've been talking about, staple in the culture, one third of the most iconic, most fashionable, most legendary groups in hip hop history. But now, you know, obviously stepping out, doing his own thing, and he's here to join us today to talk some shit, talk some music, talk some culture, talk a lot of the things that, you know, we like to talk about here at the Ore Moss Show. Today we are joined by Gwinnett county.
Ryan Reynolds
Legend, off set, our live studio audience. All right, so before we get started, I have to ask what happened in Times Square last night? Because it kind of looked like Jonestown a bit. I wasn't sure if you were starting a cult, if people were sacrificing themselves. I just saw a lot of littered bodies laid out.
Rory
Yeah.
Ryan Reynolds
And there wasn't much content.
Rory
You had some fun in Times Square yesterday.
Host 1
Yeah. Put the bodies on the floor, shots of content and I mean. Yeah, it was me just letting the world know I'm coming with the album.
Rory
Yeah.
Host 1
Embrace yourselves.
Rory
Yeah.
Ryan Reynolds
So I was not in Times Square, but what I was reading and saw you also had some quote unquote Doppler gangers. Can you walk me through the casting process of trying to find your twins?
Rory
Yeah. Who didn't make it. Like, who did you see? Like, now he don't look like who.
Ryan Reynolds
On your team was like. No, you look like. Then you got offended. Like. No, I don't look like that.
Host 1
There's a lot of I ain't look like. We just try to make everybody, like, coordinate with the clothes and shit like that and make it like, not. It's just. It's just different versions.
Rory
Yeah.
Host 1
I mean, just like how I'm coming on the album of me that's by self titled name, my real name. Like different versions of me through my career. No, just raw though.
Rory
Yeah. And the last time we saw you, we saw you with. Was used with Kai.
Host 1
Yeah.
Rory
At the crib with Kai. Ya look like you had a lot of fun.
Host 1
Yeah, that's true.
Rory
People don't see that side of you. Like, people don't know that side of Offset. They think rappers they think Atlanta. They like, oh, this nigga gonna come in gooned up. Serious. You went in there, you had a lot of fun. You was dancing. Like, what was that energy like? Did you go in there knowing, like, we about to go in here and just act a fool, have fun?
Host 1
No, I was just. I went in, like, just be yourself. Like, I felt like people thought I was too serious, you know?
Rory
Yeah, yeah.
Host 1
And I. And them niggas is funny, though.
Rory
Yeah.
Host 1
So they create the environment and just bouncing off their energy. Them niggas be turned. So I feel like it'd be off balance when niggas going there trying to be cool. And that ain't for that. That channel is like, yeah, you can't.
Rory
Go on Kai's crib.
Ryan Reynolds
Serious Goon sleepover.
Rory
That's a nasty sleepover.
Host 1
Yeah. It's crazy.
Rory
Yeah. But why do people think that about you? Like, why do people get this feeling that offset is this serious, you know?
Host 1
I think. I think it's. Cause beginning of my career, I was a little. Going a little crazy then. I ain't no Internet. Like, I don't. I'm not. I'm not showing you me on the Internet unless you have to see it.
Rory
Okay.
Host 1
Or some like that. I'm not going. I don't know. I just. Maybe I should, but I don't. I don't like going live and like, just showing. I don't be doing that so. So often. Cause at one time, I feel like just too much exposure.
Rory
Yeah.
Host 1
Get motherfuckers off you.
Rory
Yeah. Now, the last year. The last year, I've had a rough year. I would say online, like, my name, they was killing me for. Wake up. Every day I'm looking at my phone, I'm like, I never even said that. I never even did that.
Host 1
Yeah.
Rory
What are some of the most misleading things that you've opened your phone and just was like, what? Like, why y' all think that about me? Like, what's some of the craziest? Because it's some shit out there about you. And I'm like, bro, he didn't say that. I know.
Host 1
It'd be a lot of cap ass shit.
Rory
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Host 1
That I said, like, somebody said success should, like, stop referring me as a husband or some. Some weird shit that.
Ryan Reynolds
I mean, we just want to get your pronouns correct, that's all.
Host 1
Well, just like, niggas just be saying, like, it was just like clickbait, like, I don't know. TikTok started this little thing where, like, nigga be talking. So this Is the reason why.
Rory
Yeah.
Host 1
Offset is not going to.
Rory
And they know your whole life and they got it all wrong.
Host 1
That should be cap ye. I feel like it just come with it. Just. It just come. It just come with it. It is what it is.
Rory
Yeah. I mean, listen, Rory. I spoke to Rory last year a lot through all of that shit, and I was like, bro, what the fuck? This Internet shit, I thought I had it figured out. Oh, no, it's a crazy fucking world.
Ryan Reynolds
I tried to tell you to do the best strategy to say your Twitter was hacked.
Rory
Yeah, I tried that, but that don't always work. But, like, what's some of the things you do to be like, how do you detach from the grid? How do you detach from the Matrix and be like, all right, man, I know who I am. My people know who I. That's all that matters. But you're somebody that has been such a big figure in the culture on social media for years. How do you navigate around the bullshit?
Host 1
I just don't let it control, like, how I'm thinking about myself and doing shit, like, with music and shit, like. Cause I don't let me get lost in it. Cause I don't see it outside of the Internet. So, for instance, I dropping record bodies, streams going crazy. I don't see like a deflation. None of my shit.
Rory
Okay.
Host 1
So that's what keep me like, ok, just that. Entertainment. Yeah, yeah, it's the entertainment aspect of it. But what I do with it is like, oh, talking crazy. Oh, it's crazy, crazy. Your Google search at 100 drop a song. Okay, Because I'm having good product. Got you see what I'm saying? Yeah, I got good products. Yeah.
Rory
They in line for something. So let me give them something, give.
Host 1
Them a little taste of it.
Rory
Okay, okay, that makes sense.
Ryan Reynolds
How do you think the Internet is going to react to the opening record? Enemies where you say that you love hard, but you're also toxic. Because coming out the gate that way, I was like, are you trying to start some bullshit? I see where this problem is.
Rory
Not to paint the picture, but I listen to the beautiful shower. I was just like. I don't know if I said, Paul, I don't know if Officer the King, if that's how he should be coming into the record. Because it's kind of like you're gonna be like, word.
Ryan Reynolds
I identify with that, though.
Rory
No, I get it too. I think most men get that. But I don't know if Offset should lead the album with that bar.
Host 1
I'm downcoming shit. It's the truth. Okay, Now I mean people gonna. I feel like saying that shit like it's the truth. Niggas feel that. People feel like. Girls feel that. Both sides feel that. Cause like everybody dealing with that done dealt with that. Like bring a little excitement to the relationship sometimes.
Ryan Reynolds
Did you feel like you had to be a little bit more personal on this project just because of what everyone pays attention to and yes and no.
Host 1
I learned from. Okay, all right. Father 4. When I dropped that first solo one, I got a big ass fan base because I was actually talking about some shit. I had context to the music. It was different. It was my kids, it was ups and downs, the car crash. And so I just looked at that book. Even though set it off. Did great numbers too. But like touching people and people. Like when I hear people quote my solo shit, they quote that motherfucker father 4. And so it was like put some. I wanted to put context. I ain't want to because like end of the day you still like you on the screen. So I don't talk online, so I talk in the music. You know what I mean? And I feel like people going to hear what I got to say about certain shit and certain shit and they going to think I'm on certain and I really ain't too much on, but I'm just being a man about shit. Like balance on that song, on that song. It's still like me saying taking accountability for certain things that happened.
Ryan Reynolds
Is that why there was a year in between? Because I mean you were on a pretty quick cycle with the solo joints in 2024. He was, I mean, quiet for the most part.
Host 1
Is that you were life. Yeah, life's going on and I be believing in timing. Like the eyes wasn't so on me. They on me now. So now I'm about to give it to you. It just makes sense. Like I take all anything that come with this shit and try to turn into music.
Rory
How often do you think about when you're in album mode? Like how often do you think about writing? Or is it just something like you gotta just. It's just a spur of the moment, I'm going to the studio tonight. Or. Or is it like when it's album mode, everything else is just like on the back burner. It's like, no, I'm in album mode or you make your album. Like if I get inspired tonight, I'm going to the studio right now.
Host 1
Kind of both. If I get inspired, I'm going to the studio. But when it's album time. It's like a different mode. Like, I'm trying to see what the fuck the story is in this project, what picture I'm painting with this, what they gonna get from this. So then they get to breaking down the songs and saying, that's how I narrate, picking my songs and shit. Cause if it ain't matching a story of, like, me being me, myself, raw, kind of like, not. I don't wanna say vulnerable, but it ain't sad shit, but it's like saying shit I would never say on this project.
Rory
Have you done that often? And then the record comes out and you hear and you're like, I hate that I said that. Cause you don't really feel that way. Like, how often does that happen for you?
Host 1
It happens. Not all the time, but a recent drop. I did that when I dropped that record 10. I just like, I shouldn't have did that one. I ain't really with the record like that. It was. It was more of a me not being a player and kind of being spiteful. Spiteful records don't work or like that.
Rory
Like, spiteful records don't work.
Ryan Reynolds
How quickly after the release did you feel that way of, like, damn, maybe I shouldn't have done this?
Host 1
Probably today.
Rory
Damn. So it was like, immediate.
Host 1
Yeah. Not even off what people saying, though. It's just like, you didn't.
Ryan Reynolds
Like, how many.
Rory
You didn't really feel that. Like, that's not what you really felt.
Host 1
I was trying to. No, not that, but it was. It just when it wasn't a play, like, yeah, it was no story to that. It was no, like, music drive to that. The fans wouldn't. That one. It was just me doing some. I could say that, yeah, I was just doing some.
Rory
Trying some. What's one of the biggest things you want people to take from. From Offset as far as, like, a rapper? Because from years, you know, all of the records with Migos, like, you know, the joints that y' all gave us, we always kind of recognize that it's been a conversation like. Like Offset really be saying some shit like, y' all having fun. Y', all. Y'. All. Y' all styling and, you know, y' all getting y' all fly off. But it's like when we listen to Offset, it's like, yo, hold up. He kinda like. He seemed like he just being a different part of the room, like, really trying to get some shit off as a solo artist now you have more space to kind of be Offset, obviously. What's one of the Things you want people to take from this project. In particular about you as a rapper. As about you as a writer and an artist that people probably don't know about.
Host 1
Offset my craft. Like take it serious. Like the hours I be putting in and like how I break so much shit down. Detail even like the sequence of my songs and like the art inside of the music too. Like I like to paint the pictures. Cause I feel like people don't get shit sometimes so you gotta put it in their face and the shit they go behind that. Like last album I had Jamie Lee Curtis doing doing shit like me reaching out myself personally in DM to this is also alien.
Rory
Getting Jamie Lee Curtis is a flex.
Host 1
Come on now I'm working on some other shit now.
Rory
Yeah yeah.
Host 1
You feel that? Working on some other shit now that's a flex.
Rory
Yeah.
Host 1
That the behind the scene work. Never see what niggas gotta do to try to please you, right? To please y'. All. You know what I'm saying, right? Cause I'm. I study the game. That's why I don't drop so much. Cause I gotta see what the going on. Because I feel like I. Like you said, I come from such a heavy background. I can't. It's no hiccups. They can't drop no right. You ain't gonna be able to come back from that. It'd be too hard to come back with that. So sometimes I strategize to see what the folks fuck.
Rory
Yeah. You don't have the luxury of dropping. Cause you're under a microscope that's so big. They waiting for you to drop some bullshit.
Host 1
Yeah, they waiting so they can't wait for it. You know how many when I drop by, just how many tiktoks I'm like. I've seen like I ain't gon lie. I wanted to be but I can't say yeah.
Ryan Reynolds
I mean as a spokesperson for all of the whites we did feel seen when you sampled Bodies hit the floor. Like I. I really was like yo, yeah, that's talking. You was thinking about me. Me and PE was that morning that came out we was jamming in the studio.
Rory
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's our. That's the white boy.
Ryan Reynolds
Was that intentional of picking that sample?
Host 1
Nah, honestly. Vinyl shout out to vinyls.
Ryan Reynolds
One of the best producers.
Host 1
Cold. He's so cold. Him vinyls is my man FNZ made it with him vinyl sent it to me. I sent it to my now I made that record two years ago.
Ryan Reynolds
Oh okay.
Host 1
Okay. So when I I made the record. He'd been pressing me for that shit for two years. Like, what the fuck is you doing, bro? You know, the sample we got alone is. Is one of them ones. And niggas don't get this sample. And then my shot of Reservoir, my publishing, they on the same team. They already. They own Reservoir too. And shout out to them, man, they was easy to work with. Cleared it. They with the record. I hit them on the DM2 VO trying to get this record cleared, man. They did that shit immediately. So, yeah, shout out to them, bro.
Ryan Reynolds
Now, we was listening to the joint but good.
Rory
Yeah, we was listening to the joint last night. I told you to love you down. That's my shit.
Host 1
Yeah.
Rory
I mean, that sample is, you know, that's the 80s. That's my era that's going back. But that to me is one of the records that I think everybody's gonna fuck with. I think every woman on social media is gonna post that song at least once on that algorithm. When you heard that, was that a no brainer? Like, oh, we definitely.
Host 1
I can show the text. I seen it. I'm scrolling on Instagram and I seen the original being live performed. Yeah, I sent it to London on the tray like as. Like, share this link. Share this to him. I said, sample this. Put this in the front. I got all the text. Put this in the front and don't muffle it, don't put it in the background. Make this stand out. Off rip. So start the song off like this. Then put Let Me Love youe down throughout the record. Literally got the text how I did it. Cause he sent it back the first time. I was like, nah, turn that shit up. Cause this the part. My mama, my grandma, my auntie, everybody know this part. Right, right, right. And so put this right here. And then, then when I played it out, I first did a verse and I just stopped and I just had the beat stopping. And I called him back like, hey, put that same shit in the middle of this motherfucker. Let it breathe. And then I'm gonna come back in with a different flow. And that's.
Rory
That's called producing, ladies and gentlemen. I don't know a few people out there know what that like. He's not just texting, you know what I'm saying? Saying dumps. He's producing a record at that point.
Ryan Reynolds
It was good to see you with Tizo. How did that record come together? Tizo Touchdown.
Host 1
Tizo Touchdown.
Rory
He always incredibly talented.
Host 1
He's a shout out to me and he got that old School edge.
Rory
It makes sense that you and Tizo would. Yeah. Connect, though.
Host 1
And he'll take it there. So, like, video anything.
Rory
He.
Host 1
I feel like he ain't got no fear with his shit. His creator's book so open. He'll go anywhere, like, anywhere with it. And I respect. Respect his vocal game. Like, his sound is different. It sound older to me. Sound like some older shit to me, but it sound different. And the whole purpose of my album, I wanted to work with niggas that. I feel like niggas getting recycled right now. Like, same song, same features. Same features, same features. And I wanted to go different route, like. Cause I feel like collaboration supposed to be like, you deal with somebody that you work with, somebody that's unexpected. Like the Jid. Yeah, Jid is that nigga gonna walk something. Just had to find a pocket and we found the pocket and it go crazy. And then like, the low key niggas like that be having their own fan base, too. Solid spam base.
Rory
Oh, yeah.
Ryan Reynolds
J got a core fan base. And it's crazy. Just shows the versatility of Atlanta. Cause that record still sound Atlanta as fuck. And y' all are two totally different rappers in that regard. But nothing weird on that shit at all. But teaser. I'm curious to see what that video is gonna look like. You gonna put on some football pass?
Host 1
Nah, I might let him do that, though.
Rory
Yeah, that's it.
Host 1
Yeah.
Rory
Yeah.
Host 1
You know, I'm gonna let the Tease. I'll leave that for tease. You know what I mean? I'm letting tease do that. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna come through that with some.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah, I put something together, which I didn't even tell. More somewhat of a bando ballet, if you will. I was. I was looking up Sabrina Carpenter lyrics just in general, because I like.
Rory
Now, hold on. Before we get into that, did you see the clip where I said. Because now we was talking about you. And I said, yo, you know what, Offset?
Host 1
I didn't see that after.
Rory
Okay. He.
Ryan Reynolds
He manifested your entire love.
Rory
No, but, but, but the thing that. The thing that Rory up is because when that came out, PJ at the chat was like, damn all he called it. And I just started laughing. Rory didn't know I actually said Sabrina Carpenter. He thought I just said a white girl.
Ryan Reynolds
Because I think all white women look alike.
Rory
I said, nah. I said, offset, gotta go get Sabrina Carpenter. I said, he gonna piss everybody over if you do that. And sure enough, it come out. They said, offset says he has a crush on Sabrina Carpenter. I said, here you go.
Host 1
It's stopping.
Rory
I said my. Stop it up. Piss everybody off. And he dropped the album, man.
Ryan Reynolds
I was hoping that there would be some secret feature somewhere, like back in the day when you would skip through to the bonus track there. But I. I do think that there could be, like, a Bando ballet joint album between the two of y'.
Host 1
All.
Ryan Reynolds
But when I was looking up her lyrics, trying to, like, get to know some of her music, I like, yo, this might be one of the most toxic white women I've ever heard in my life.
Rory
Serena be talking crazy.
Ryan Reynolds
So then I decided to put a segment together to ask you guys if you can guess whether this is Future lyrics or Sabrina Carpenter lyrics or future Sabrina Carpenter. All right, we'll start with the first one. Now, I'm a home wrecker. I'm a slut. I got death threats filling up semi trucks.
Rory
That gotta be. That gotta be Sabrina. Future ain't gonna say he's. Well, he might say he's a slut, but he ain't. I'm going, sabrina who you.
Host 1
Wait, say it again.
Ryan Reynolds
I'm a home wrecker. I'm a slut. I got death threats filling up semi trucks.
Host 1
Oh, they gotta be Sabrina.
Rory
Wait, wait. I don't know.
Host 1
I got deaths.
Ryan Reynolds
You said death threats filling up semi trucks.
Rory
I'm gonna go Future. I don't think. I don't think. I don't think Sabr.
Host 1
Death threat. She ain't gonna say death threats. Yeah, she did.
Ryan Reynolds
That's Sabrina Carpenter. Nah, nah, she's toxic as swear. All right, go to the next one. My clothes are off. I'm coming over to your place and if you don't need my love I didn't want your ass anyway.
Rory
Now if that's Sabrina, we got to have a different conversation about Sabrina Carpenter. I'm gonna just say Future. I'm gonna say Future.
Ryan Reynolds
What you saying?
Host 1
I'm gonna say Sabrina.
Ryan Reynolds
That's Sabrina.
Host 1
I listen to Sabrina.
Rory
She be talking that.
Ryan Reynolds
That's what I'm telling you. I was going through her lyrics like, this woman is insane. All right. I can hear your tears when they drop over the phone get mad at you.
Rory
That's Future.
Ryan Reynolds
Okay. All right. Well, there we go. Why you always come running to me? My life never heard of self care Half your brain just ain't even there. I heard it in a Future cadence.
Rory
That. Is that Future?
Ryan Reynolds
No, it's Sabrina, bro.
Rory
Listen, how are we not hearing these? Are these singles, you know what be happening?
Host 1
I think the records, they be pop records, so they be.
Rory
So it's the music they like. Yeah, we caught up in the music, but what I'm saying is toxic as fuck.
Ryan Reynolds
All right. Woke up this morning, thought I'd write a pop hit. How quickly can you take your clothes off? Like a pop quiz?
Rory
I'm just gonna say future.
Host 1
Future.
Ryan Reynolds
That is Sabrina Carpenter.
Host 1
What.
Rory
She talking crazy.
Ryan Reynolds
This. This one might be tough for y'.
Host 1
All.
Ryan Reynolds
So crack to a pregnant lady. Forgive me for the crack babies.
Rory
That's definitely if Sabrina. If that's the Sabrina Carpenter line. We gotta get her out of here. Like, she's so crack. Like, come on, man. Jesus Christ.
Ryan Reynolds
That is, in fact, future. I didn't want to stump you on that one.
Rory
Did she. Did. Did. Did she see the clip? Did her team reach out in response to you saying it? Cause we have a bed in the office. I'm like, yo, I'm like, offset gonna pop out on the dinner date with Sabrina?
Host 1
Oh, no. Did they reach out? I don't know if they reached out.
Rory
They reached out. This went on a date with Sabrina Coffins.
Ryan Reynolds
Is that how, like, celebrities actually date now? Just be the PR teams putting it together?
Rory
Yeah.
Ryan Reynolds
I mean, we should bring the PR team on the couch to ask.
Rory
Well, most of the times that's. That's the easier way to reach out is through the PR team, but. But sometimes it'll be, you know, a cold dm. We've seen instances where people like, yo, how y' all started dating, it's like, y' all just DM does just certain.
Host 1
Certain status of women. You don't DM player.
Rory
How do you differentiate that, though? Like, how does somebody like Offset say, damn, I can't.
Host 1
And it. I'm gonna assume that no artist don't read right. I don't even want to hit no DM to no female to do a song, because it just don't.
Rory
That's what I was gonna say.
Host 1
Do you even DM rep and read write? It don't. My rep and then read write.
Rory
Yeah.
Host 1
Don't go together. I'm already knowing that. So I rather go through, like, for doing music. I'm not DMing no female talking about, hey, let's do a song. I just feel like it read wrong.
Rory
Yeah, that screenshot, if she decide to post that one day out of spite, it just reads.
Host 1
Yeah, if you gotta think like that. Cause, like, say if it was right, what the people gonna say? What you trying to do?
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah, I think that's fucked up because I think there's plenty of artists, yourself included, that probably just want to work with a female artist to just make music.
Host 1
Yeah.
Rory
There's nothing I reach out to a bro.
Host 1
Yo, got this. Drop description, drop the album. Let's get in. But female artists, definitely not. Cause I respect you too. So yeah, I don't even want to disrespect you and like making it.
Rory
You don't even want to come across the wrong way.
Host 1
Yeah. Cause I'm really trying to get this record done.
Rory
Yeah.
Host 1
You know what I'm saying?
Ryan Reynolds
I feel like I'm snitching a little bit here, but when I once I found out there was producers just doing sessions with chicks of of records, they was never going to clear that was just their way in. I was like, y'. All, y' all might be the nastiest people I've seen.
Rory
Oh, the industry is crazy.
Ryan Reynolds
You just invited chicks to the studio records. That's never gonna come out.
Rory
She's not even dope.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah. You don't think anything is talented about it.
Rory
Oh, she's not talent. She looks good, that's all. You know how that goes.
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Host 1
American history is full of wise people.
Ryan Reynolds
What woman said something like 99.99% of war is diarrhea and 1% is glory.
Host 1
Those founding fathers were gossipy AF and they love to cut each other down. I'm Bob Crawford, host of American History Hotline. The show where you send us your questions about American history. And I find the answers, including the nuggets of wisdom our history has to offer. Hamilton pauses, and then he says, the.
Ryan Reynolds
Greatest man that ever lived was Julius Caesar. And Jefferson writes in his diary, this proves that Hamilton is for a dictator based on corruption. My favorite line was what Neil Armstrong said. It would have been harder to fake it than to do it.
Host 1
Listen to American History Hotline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Rory
So who are some of the guys that you wanted to work with that it hasn't happened yet? Like, some of the artists that you're like, damn, I gotta get a joint with them.
Host 1
Andre 3000, for sure. Just so that's a dream collab. And, I mean, I feel like it was the best thing, shit, that ever came out of Atlanta. They came out harder.
Rory
Do you feel like that? Cause we've seen this generation now. They give, you know, Atlanta gives more credence.
Host 1
And them outkast is always on the list.
Ryan Reynolds
Outkast, I think they're the greatest group of all time. But that's just my opinion.
Rory
There's this people that have, like, they hold a higher, you know, kind of respect for future than they do Andre 3000 now, this generation. And you can understand it. 3000 hasn't been as active. But you're from.
Host 1
But he come from them.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah, he's dungeon.
Rory
Oh, 100%. 100%. But there's a thing where people be like, I don't even know 150,000. It's future. And I'm like, but being from Atlanta, you gotta know Andre Tita. I don't care how old you are. I think he's one of the artists that you have to know is held here. Yeah, but there's a lot of. There's a younger generation now that's like.
Host 1
They don't know him, though. So you can't fault them. You know what I mean? They don't know him.
Rory
Yeah, but I didn't know Marvin Gaye either, though. Like, I wasn't outside for Marvin Gaye. But as you go through music you like, nah, he was cold.
Host 1
He was raised in the house on that, though, right? So them niggas ain't even raised in the house on Dre.
Ryan Reynolds
But I'm not saying that he has to be number one on everyone's list. But there's no way you grew up and didn't hear Ms. Jackson or even. I mean, shit. Andre has been on Thug Records. He's been On Future Records.
Host 1
That's what them niggas do. Because at the end of the day, when they came out the south, they was not fucking with us. It was really on some West Coast, New York, Louisiana. Shit only.
Rory
Yeah.
Host 1
And them niggas winning wars, pushing it how they do it. And they came in on some, like, niggas don't give them credit on, like, the creator on Dre.
Rory
Yeah.
Host 1
Dre was doing all this crazy Kanye west dressing shit before these N. Oh, for sure.
Rory
For sure.
Host 1
Wearing wigs with the orange suit on, with the J's on. Like, he been. Did shoulder pass. So, like, it's not just about the raps.
Rory
Yeah.
Host 1
The influence about. I look at him and be like, okay, I could do some shit that I wouldn't do.
Rory
How much did Outkast, like, really influence? Cause I feel like it has, like, seeing y' all live performance, aesthetically, visually, what. The Migos was doing that to me because I saw outkast. I know that that was Some of that DNA was in y'.
Host 1
All.
Rory
But what are the conversations like away from the stage and just the public eye about Outcast and their influence on y'?
Host 1
All?
Rory
Like, is it like, damn, like, they was the illest. Like, is it like that? Or is it like, I like what they did, but let's kind of take that torch and run with it.
Host 1
Yeah, it's like that.
Rory
Okay.
Host 1
It's like that. It's like, I take that torch and run with it. Cause still, like, the influence they had is super big, but I feel like my group influences bigger than a lot of group influences, because you still hear it and see it right now. Different genres. When different genres get to doing what you doing and get to copy and how you do shit. It's just like. You see it like that even right now. New artists can come out right now with the same flow we created and. And go on. On. On.
Rory
Yeah.
Ryan Reynolds
How did that triple flow style come about with you guys?
Host 1
Just. It was never a strategy for it. It's just like, N was rapping like that. I don't know. God. For real.
Ryan Reynolds
You know what I mean?
Host 1
That serious nigga was not trying to, like, maybe it was, like, bouncing off each other energy. Really was Tank, he was the first nigga to do it.
Ryan Reynolds
Okay.
Host 1
And we didn't see it. We just was trying to do that shit. Why that shit hard right there? And we started running with it. And then. I don't know. The guy was like, I gave y' all this. Yeah, yeah.
Ryan Reynolds
I mean, Billboard put y' all at number 11 of the greatest rap groups of all time, which is a Billboard list. So who, like, really cares? You were arguing that y' all could have been higher.
Host 1
I ain't gonna lie. The list, though, is a superb list, though. Like, the people in front of us. It ain't no slouch in front of us.
Ryan Reynolds
Not at law.
Host 1
You gotta pay the respects. You gotta run the mc. You gotta got Karen Swan.
Rory
Yeah.
Host 1
Wu Tang. You got. It's real. You got. It's respect versus now. But some of the other, like, the roosters, like, 25 or something. It's kind of crazy.
Rory
That's crazy.
Host 1
Yeah, yeah.
Rory
The roost. Being number 25 is crazy.
Host 1
It's just a little crazy.
Rory
Absolutely.
Ryan Reynolds
That's crazy. Hypothetically, if there were to be a versus, like, not obviously the way they did it during COVID or anything, but just. Just catalog versus catalog, who would be a group that you would want to go against?
Host 1
Run it up. Line it up. A group. Yeah, catalog. Come on.
Ryan Reynolds
Because I put. I put a little bit of a list together.
Host 1
You're a hip hop.
Rory
So.
Host 1
So who you think?
Ryan Reynolds
All right. To me, when we were talking before y', all, because I think y', all, as far as the new generation, would be the number one iconic group. I don't even think.
Host 1
Not even new. I'm talking about now. Stop saying that.
Ryan Reynolds
I'm gonna get to there. We was like, all right. Race Remin, we love them, but Migos is probably gonna clean up. Race Remond.
Rory
Yeah, they're amazing.
Host 1
But, like, come on.
Ryan Reynolds
I just don't think that's gonna happen.
Rory
It's a whole different thing.
Ryan Reynolds
Then we were trying to figure out, like, certain sounds that may match a bit. We were talking about 3 6. I don't know where you would stand on that.
Host 1
We're gonna smoke three six. And I love them, and them gave us this also somebody we looked up to.
Rory
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that would be dope to just be.
Host 1
I want to see who you gonna say who we. Who in the group? Because you ain't gonna say none of them. 3 6, the group wise, who, Who? Catalog.
Ryan Reynolds
Catalog. The one. The one I thought would be tough would be Hot Boys. Because at any versus, the rules was everyone's allowed to also do their solo as well.
Host 1
Oh, y' all gonna.
Ryan Reynolds
Definitely. The Hot Boys.
Host 1
The Hot Boys.
Rory
But they get to do their solo.
Host 1
I get. Do my solo shit with Ric Flair, and I get.
Ryan Reynolds
Of course.
Host 1
Yeah, yeah. We're gonna. What?
Ryan Reynolds
I like.
Rory
I don't know the right word. I'm saying I'm not saying Amigos might not have a better catalog, but I'm saying Smoked is where I'm just like, I don't know if y' all gonna smoke.
Host 1
Talking about it's kind of cheating, though, cuz you can't use Wayne Solo. Wayne Solo?
Rory
Yeah.
Host 1
You don't even need to.
Rory
You don't even.
Ryan Reynolds
Juvie Solo is crazy.
Host 1
Juvie Solo is crazy. But Wayne Solo is crazy, bro.
Rory
We know that, but that's what I'm saying. But he part of the hot boys.
Host 1
They can't beat Wayne Solo.
Rory
All right?
Host 1
So no, sir.
Ryan Reynolds
All right. Ugk.
Host 1
I love ugk. And I don't want to be put in the end. Come out. Yeah.
Ryan Reynolds
We ain't trying to be too.
Host 1
Come on.
Rory
But you got through me. I respect. I think that because we got.
Host 1
Why I'm saying it, because niggas got street records, right?
Rory
Yep.
Host 1
Hit records, then we got global records.
Rory
Yeah.
Host 1
Then we got hit forever records.
Rory
Yeah.
Host 1
Has been wealthy like that, bro. That. Like that. That is like. That sound like it's a. It came out in the 90s. I mean, so, like. And I'm always. I just feel like I don't see it. But now High Boys is. Is. Is tough. It's tough.
Rory
That's a tough one.
Host 1
Now, if we going straight group catalog up.
Rory
If it's a straight group, then, yeah.
Ryan Reynolds
Y' all are cleaning up.
Rory
Groups have a hard time with Amigos.
Host 1
Clean it up.
Rory
Yeah, they will have a hard time.
Host 1
Tunes is the blueprint for all us young. I don't give a damn what say.
Rory
Yeah.
Host 1
But even style now, I had.
Rory
I had a. Another bit of a viral moment last year when we were talking about Drake in regards to, you know, people calling him a culture vulture and things like that. And in one of my rants, I said, if it wasn't for Drake, we might not have never even known who the Migos was. That was in regards to me saying, when Drake remixed, was it Versace?
Host 1
Versace, yeah. That my boy. That's my man. What he stabbed and put. And. And he don't just do that, though. He don't just do that, though. He stopped still fuck with niggas. Right, right, right.
Rory
But people didn't understand what I was saying. They were saying, like, I was trying to give Drake all the. But it was like, no, but one of the biggest artists remixed a record from a group that was making noise and was known in Atlanta and kind of bubbling around the country a little bit in different pockets, man.
Host 1
Stamped us different type of Way I'm.
Rory
The artist that's coming from Offset. It stamped the Migos. So y' all can stop killing me every time that clip goes viral and say, I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about.
Host 1
I said, they be saying. Cause they be trying to say, like. They gonna say, like, we gonn. We're gonna be great regardless. But you can't skip the stamp.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah, no, it definitely changed the Versace record for sure. Even when Xander was going and let's fight and stuff.
Rory
And then I saw Coach K on, he was doing an interview somewhere where he basically reiterated that, like, nah, when Drake did that, he just did that on the love. Like, he fucked with the record. And it was just like, yeah, it.
Host 1
Wasn'T even no sucker shit involved. Like, give me all the record behind the scene. Like, I own everything. Cause I'm doing it. No, but it reached out. I know. We went from doing E type show to D type show. Changed, changed up.
Ryan Reynolds
I don't know what that was. What, 2014, 15, 14, 14. What? What was that? Like?
Host 1
13 was Bando. That was Atlanta. Yeah, that was bubbling on.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah. I mean, Vandal made it up to New York a little bit.
Host 1
A little bit right towards the end.
Ryan Reynolds
Of 2013, I think.
Host 1
Then when that then dropped River Versace, then we did Versus I'm In Jail, by the way, did Birthday Bash. And then when Buddy got on there, motherfucker went to the moon.
Rory
Yeah.
Host 1
And after that, it was like.
Ryan Reynolds
What was that called? Like, when you got straight vocals.
Host 1
I was in a bad situation. I heard it like the world heard it.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah.
Host 1
When that motherfucker came out, like, over.
Rory
The phone, Damn, you locked up. And you hear that verse?
Host 1
Yes, sir.
Rory
Oh, them walls got smaller than that. You couldn't wait to get out that what?
Host 1
You couldn't wait to get out that.
Ryan Reynolds
Motherfucker that was like, yay, get rich dropped like, wait, hold on. You the biggest artist.
Rory
I gotta get the out of here. We going crazy right now.
Host 1
Yeah, I heard that on the phone.
Rory
Now, me and Rory went to the Scorpion show when y' all were on tour with Drake. And I. I remember telling Rory when we left, I said, I always knew the Migos had records and they was dope and you know all of that. But seeing y' all perform that set list on the Scorpion tour, for me, I. It gained a different level of respect for y'.
Host 1
All.
Rory
Cause I was like, yo, they was doing back to back to Back to back hit records, hour longs, the entire set.
Ryan Reynolds
There wasn't no opening 15 minute act either.
Rory
No, no, no, no, no. They could have easily headlined a tour like that. But is that a testament to just y' all always knowing that, yo, we dope. We gonna be who we are. And when the time comes, everybody will catch on.
Host 1
Yeah. That's been the story of our shit since the beginning of time. I always caught on late and catch on late. I be liking that, though. Cause I feel like the. That hit fast. Go faster.
Rory
Oh, yeah. It fades quick. They get over.
Host 1
Especially now.
Rory
Yeah, they get over it super quick. Super quick.
Host 1
Like, I rather record. I'd rather start from 25 on billboard and climb to number one, then go number one. And then next week I'm 98. I'd rather do that. Cause that means the record ain't sticking.
Rory
Yeah.
Host 1
It's just some hype, right? That hype should be down. Up.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah.
Rory
And actually working the record as one of the more fashionable guys in the culture. Being from Atlanta now, Yachty had some things to say about New York and its fashion sense a few months ago, and the Internet kind of killed him. You spend a lot of time in New York. You do a lot of shopping in New York. Being from Atlanta, where do you feel like which city has more sense of fashion and style and taste between New York and Atlanta?
Host 1
I'm gonna say it like this. You can't never play with New York, okay? Ever. It's the brains of the Mecca. It's the Mecca. Yeah, it's the Mecca. Now we got sauce and, like, drip. See what I'm saying? Lingo, like how we do it, how we carry it.
Rory
Yeah.
Host 1
I feel like if I want a shop, I'm gonna come to New York for sure. Ain't no plan. But I'm not gonna copy high New York dress, though.
Rory
Okay? You ain't gonna put it on. You ain't gonna put it. Put it together the same way.
Host 1
I ain't gonna put it together the same way.
Rory
Okay, Got you.
Host 1
I'm gonna respect it now. I would never say. What was the question? What. What did they ask him? And then he. He said.
Rory
He said Atlanta got exactly what Yachty said. But he.
Host 1
It was some, like, whose flyer? People from New York.
Ryan Reynolds
And then they pulled up a million photos of him dressing just like dmx. And it was just like, all right. I mean, I. With y. That's my guy.
Host 1
That's my brother. That's my bro.
Ryan Reynolds
You can't say New York doesn't dress better than Atlanta. And all these photos is you just taking influence from New York fashion.
Rory
Yeah.
Ryan Reynolds
But, I mean, Atlanta has put their sauce on.
Host 1
We got the sauce. Sometimes we having sauce, man.
Rory
But it's a cheat code now. And I always say this with social media, because before social media, if you was fly in your city, it was because you really went and looked for pieces. You really put pieces together. Now with social media, I could just follow Offset and be like, yo, what hoodie Offset got on? On? I'm gonna go get that. Yo, what shorts Offset got on? I'm gonna go get that. Yo, how he did his socks with the. With the laces? It's easier.
Ryan Reynolds
That doesn't mean it fashion. Me is also like cologne. It's gonna smell different on everybody. Like, you could copy somebody's whole fit and you could look nuts in it.
Rory
Absolutely.
Host 1
Yeah.
Rory
You see, we see the mannequins, they got the whole Balenciaga shoe. Like, you weren't supposed to go, Balenciaga.
Host 1
You want to tell me that?
Rory
Yeah.
Ryan Reynolds
Find the one part you like.
Host 1
Yeah, I don't like that. I don't like to go print crazy, too.
Rory
Yeah. Grab some pieces here and there. And then, like you said, sauce. How you throw it together.
Host 1
How you throw it together?
Rory
Yeah.
Host 1
Because there ain't no rules in this, right? So it's just. Oh, it's a free book. Some. I hate manic. I be calling mannequin.
Rory
Yeah.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah. It's funny I just said that about Vlad yesterday.
Host 1
Straight Louie, everything Louis shoe. Louis sock, shorts, pants, belt.
Rory
That's nasty.
Ryan Reynolds
You literally just walked in and said, let me get that.
Host 1
Yeah, that's nasty work, man.
Ryan Reynolds
Before we let you get out of here, we do have fans and listeners that call in and ask for advice, tell us stories. We want to do one quick voicemail with you. So we give a fan advice.
Rory
You've got mail.
H
How's going gang with the pod? I need to come down to Louisiana for a live show here. You know, I'm a beat up, but the reason I was hitting y', all, little man, is because the needs some advice, you know? Nah, I don't. Been around the block a few times, you know, I. I'm not new to this, but still, I still like to hear different perspectives. So that shawty I'm talking to, you know, I love. I love my life type. Like, you know, our interests align, our morals align. Everything like we good and every. Everything good, everything pure, everything great. Except one problem. Trust issues. She got trusted shoes, and they are bad. Now I know where they stem from. Like, she had the best. Like, you know what I'm saying? She's been through a lot, and one of the things I love about it is her perseverance. Like how she.
Rory
She.
H
How she still such a great person after dealing with all the stuff that she'd been through in life but that caused this issues, you know, and she need therapy. But that's a whole nother conversation. We ain't about to have no time soon. But I'll be chilling, bro. I don't be doing nothing wrong. Like a.
Rory
Don't.
H
I don't text no other. I don't know the. Like, you know what I'm saying?
Host 1
I ain't.
H
I'm not on there. Like, I'm off that.
Host 1
I wanna.
H
I want a real relationship or whatever, you know? So basically, like, how would y' all.
Rory
Deal with that without.
H
I don't want to break up with her. Like, she'd be trying to go through a phone. Like, she went through my phone. She don't find nothing, but it's still. Oh, you must be hiding something. You must delete messages. Like, it's all kind of. And I just. I don't want to break up with her, but kind of tired of it.
Ryan Reynolds
Yo, man, leave.
Rory
Yeah, I feel like it sound like she's already, like, just way too insecure. And it's not gonna get no better if she going through your phone and she don't find nothing and she still feel like you hiding something.
Ryan Reynolds
Something she gotta do the work by.
Rory
Get up out of there, man. Get up out of there.
Host 1
He said, do he got trust issues?
Rory
No, she has. She. She has.
Ryan Reynolds
Her past has those. So she be going through his phone.
Rory
Yeah, going through his.
Ryan Reynolds
He gonna be doing nothing.
Rory
You said he chilling. No hoes.
Host 1
I'm saying, though, he had to do, like. Is it like a past?
Rory
Well, her previous relationships. She been through some shit before or now they're dating.
Host 1
Sometimes people do that off guilt to the.
Rory
Oh, yeah, what's she doing? What she got going on? Check her phone.
Ryan Reynolds
That's. That's y' all response.
Host 1
But I'm just saying, like, she keep pressing here.
Rory
Why is she checking his phone?
Host 1
He sounds serious, too. Like he hurt by that. Like, he.
Rory
Like he really in love with her. He sound like he want to be with her, but he. Like she making it hard. Like, damn, I'm not around. Why you keep pressing me about this?
Host 1
They don't want my advice.
Ryan Reynolds
No, they want your advice.
Rory
Trust me.
Ryan Reynolds
He called in looking for ours, but he definitely want yours.
Rory
Offset's advice. You're like, hell, yeah, I'm rolling with that. So what does offset tell a gentleman like that.
Host 1
What you tell us? She too. Like, maybe maybe you got. You make her feel a little bit more secure. And I mean, maybe. Okay, maybe you. Maybe you. The trauma. Look at the trauma she been through and try to do the opposite of that. Yeah, maybe that can help, but. I don't know.
Ryan Reynolds
I hear that, but I'm not changing my whole life for you to look through my phone like I'm on parole every night because you went through some before me. Like, I'm just not really.
Rory
I can't pay for his. The other guy.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah, like, ups to me. That's odd because I'm not gonna go through your phone.
Host 1
Right.
Ryan Reynolds
To me, that's. If she don't work on that shit by herself, I would leave because that's only gonna get worse. You can't cure that shit just by showing your phone every fucking night.
Host 1
Right?
Ryan Reynolds
What the fuck? I didn't do anything.
Rory
Yeah. Is that one of your things, though? Never, never go to a woman's phone. Even if you feel like there may be some going on, like you just never. Like, I'm never doing it.
Host 1
I ain't going to say I. I have done it, but.
Ryan Reynolds
Did you find what you was looking for?
Rory
That hurt.
Host 1
You just. No, actually don't find nothing.
Rory
That's what hurts when you don't find nothing. Explain that.
Host 1
When you don't, it hurt as a man. Like, that's some lame ass. Like, after you. When you.
Rory
Okay, I see what you're saying.
Host 1
When you. When you thought you do some shit to ask you, like, what the.
Rory
Like, why would I even. I'm playing myself.
Host 1
You go on the phone, ain't nothing in there. Yeah, damn, I'm lame. And then you just sitting there, lame in hell, going through the girl phone.
Rory
All right, now, do you went through it and you didn't find nothing? Or you just tuck that and be like, damn, that's corny. I did some corny.
Host 1
It's so corny. You gotta take that.
Ryan Reynolds
There's no winning going through a phone. You're gonna find something you don't like. And if you don't find something you don't like, you're gonna think she deleted something.
Rory
Yeah.
Ryan Reynolds
So now you're just walking around the house pacing, like, just don't get in the phone.
Host 1
Don't go play.
Ryan Reynolds
Just stay away from the phone.
Host 1
Stay away from the phone.
Rory
Don't go through no phones. I don't recommend going through no phones either. You're gonna find a reason to leave or find a reason to either way. Don't do it. Don't.
Ryan Reynolds
My ego can't handle it. That's why I've never went through before.
Rory
Set. Tell us. Kiari, the album.
Host 1
Yes. Kiara, the album, man. So this album, when is it dropping? August 22nd. August 22nd Visual Album. I should be doing a video for each song or some type of visual content for each song.
Rory
I love that.
Host 1
You know what I'm saying? Getting in my active bag. I like. I like doing it. I feel like that make records be bigger because it's like, like more intuitive. Just dropping shit.
Rory
Yeah.
Host 1
I got a collab with Poly, the clothing brand with all my box sets and merch.
Rory
Okay.
Host 1
I got vinyl CDs and box sets and T shirts like I did with denim tears. Yeah, man. I worked on this album for like five, six months. I had one already. And because of life, I scratched that shit and just got into this, changed my energies, started focusing back on music. Like getting back into like getting the studio every day.
Rory
Yeah.
Host 1
Type vibe. Because it had got to a point where I was just like I would go here and there.
Rory
Yeah.
Host 1
I would chill, do shows here, go there.
Rory
Started feeling like a job.
Host 1
Yeah. So I locked back into it and first time opportunity being able to like express me. That's why I just said named it myself because it's just like it's something whatever the motherfuckers say about me and putting it into the music.
Rory
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Podcast Summary: New Rory & MAL – Offset Talks "KIARI" & Migos Winning EVERY Verzuz
Release Date: August 8, 2025
Hosts: Rory & MAL (Offset)
Platform: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume
In this engaging episode of New Rory & MAL, hosts Rory and Offset (from the iconic hip-hop group Migos) delve deep into Offset's latest projects, personal experiences, and the evolving landscape of hip-hop culture. Skipping over the numerous advertisements, the conversation kicks off around [02:43] as Rory welcomes Offset back to the show.
Offset opens up about the challenges of managing his public image amidst rampant social media scrutiny.
He discusses the negativity and false narratives that often circulate online, emphasizing the importance of staying true to oneself despite external pressures.
Rory adds that Offset’s restraint from sharing personal moments online helps maintain a sense of authenticity.
The spotlight shifts to Offset's highly anticipated album, "Kiari," set to drop on August 22nd.
He elaborates on the creative process, highlighting collaborations and the strategic approach to storytelling within the album.
Offset shares his commitment to delivering meaningful content that resonates with listeners, ensuring each track contributes to the overarching narrative of the album.
Rory and Offset reflect on Migos' enduring impact on hip-hop and their standing among legendary groups.
The discussion highlights Migos' innovative triple flow style and their consistent ability to produce chart-topping hits.
They compare Migos to other legendary groups like Outkast and Wu-Tang Clan, debating the rankings and the criteria used by publications like Billboard.
Offset and Rory engage in a lively debate about fashion influences between New York and Atlanta, underscoring the cultural differences and unique styles each city fosters.
Rory points out the ease of adopting fashion trends through social media but cautions against merely copying styles without personal flair.
This segment emphasizes the importance of individuality in fashion, despite the pervasive influence of trends set by major cities.
A standout moment features a listener's call seeking advice on handling a relationship plagued by trust issues.
Offset advises against invading privacy as a solution, instead suggesting open communication and addressing underlying insecurities.
Rory echoes this sentiment, reinforcing the importance of mutual trust and the futility of invasive actions.
Offset provides insights into the technical aspects of producing "Kiari," including sample selections and collaborations with producers.
He details the meticulous process of selecting samples that resonate with his vision and the collaborative efforts with other artists and producers to bring the album to life.
The conversation widens to place Migos in the pantheon of great hip-hop groups, debating their rankings relative to legends like Outkast and Hot Boys.
They discuss the unique contributions of each group and the subjective nature of such rankings, ultimately celebrating Migos' legacy and ongoing influence.
As the episode wraps up, Rory and Offset reiterate their mutual respect and the anticipation surrounding "Kiari." They emphasize the album's aim to offer a genuine portrayal of Offset's artistry and personal journey.
The hosts thank Offset for his candidness and tease future episodes filled with more in-depth discussions and exclusive insights.
Offset on Social Media Impact: "I don't let it control how I'm thinking about myself and doing shit with music... I don't see it outside of the Internet." [07:34]
Offset on "Kiari" Album: "I worked on this album for like five, six months... I locked back into it and was able to express myself." [48:37]
Offset on Migos' Legacy: "It was never a strategy for it, it's just like N was rapping like that... We started running with it." [32:18]
Rory on Fashion Influence: "Grab some pieces here and there. And then, like you said, sauce. How you throw it together." [42:51]
Offset on Relationship Advice: "She has to do the work by herself. If she doesn't work on that shit, I would leave because that's only gonna get worse." [46:06]
Overall, this episode offers a comprehensive look into Offset's life as a solo artist, his efforts to redefine his image, the legacy of Migos in hip-hop, and his insights into fashion and personal relationships. Listeners gain a deeper understanding of Offset's artistry and the strategic approach behind his latest projects.