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Andrea Carter
The Volume no Warrior now.
Podcast Host 2
All right, Rory. We're back with another episode of Rory Maul. Don't Know Ball because we absolutely do not know ball. Even though we feel like we do.
Podcast Host 1
We're trying.
Podcast Host 2
Yeah, we're trying.
Podcast Host 1
So we are meeting with people that do.
Podcast Host 2
Yeah, with people who absolutely know more about ball than we do. And today we are joined by lady Vol alumni, ESPN basketball analyst, host and reporter Andrea Carter.
Podcast Host 1
Welcome to our live studio audience.
Podcast Host 2
Yes, Andrea, how you feeling?
Andrea Carter
I'm feeling great. I mean this is like it's the most tiring time of year, but it's also the most energizing time of year. Like just as as tired as you feel. You're constantly getting re energized from the excitement of the game in March, March Madness and what's coming Up. So it's. This is. Yeah, they work.
Podcast Host 2
They're working you right now. Yeah. They're working you hard.
Andrea Carter
Yeah. Yeah. But that's like, you know, this job has a. A rhythm that changes as the year goes. And this is the fastest you've been.
Podcast Host 2
Preparing and waiting for this time of year. You know, it's coming every year.
Andrea Carter
Yeah, exactly.
Podcast Host 1
How many family members get ignored in March? How many unread text messages do you usually have by the end of the month?
Andrea Carter
The unread. The unread text messages get really high. Luckily for me, like my family, the people I care about the most, they know. So they really don't even hit me as much during this time of year. But the unread texts are significant.
Podcast Host 2
All right, so you're. You're a Georgia native. You went to Buford, right?
Andrea Carter
I did, yeah.
Podcast Host 2
So we want to get into some of your. Some of your musical, because we don't know ball, but we want to see how much music Andrea knows. So let's get into it. So in high school in Georgia, what was some of the artists that you. You remember listening to and kind of getting prepared for a game? Like, who was in. Who was in your headphones the most?
Andrea Carter
Wow. You know, it's funny. This comes to mind every time we had a away game, we would ride on the bus and our team, it was my teammate, Constance. She was just the life of the party. Always had the.
Podcast Host 2
She had the aux court.
Andrea Carter
Yeah, it was an ox back then. It was a while ago. She always was playing our music, and we always played We Some Players by Crime Mob.
Podcast Host 1
But that was like, Crime Mob is underrated.
Andrea Carter
High school Crime Mob was so underrated. Like, We Some Players was that one.
Podcast Host 1
Circles is my prime mob.
Andrea Carter
TI A lot of Atlanta artists like Ludacris, we played all the time. TI we played all the time. Yeah. But when I think about Pre Game, that was a song that was, like, on repeat for me and for. For my team in high school.
Podcast Host 2
Who was your favorite artist out of Atlanta? Yeah. Putting you on the spot.
Andrea Carter
All right. Yeah.
Podcast Host 1
That's gonna offend someone.
Podcast Host 2
Yeah. Offend somebody.
Podcast Host 1
Pac Man Jones was on the episode before this, he said, gucci, man. So you have some big shoes to fill as far as.
Podcast Host 2
Yeah. Pac went crazy.
Podcast Host 1
You have to say something nuts.
Andrea Carter
I grew, like, I was such a. My favorite artist out of Atlanta. I probably listened to TI the most growing up. Like, every album, every song that dropped, every. Anything that TI Did, I was very locked in. But now, like, as I've gotten older, I play like this. Outkast. Y'all count outkast as an artist?
Podcast Host 1
Yeah, we can.
Andrea Carter
Yeah, I would say, like outkast, the group resonates with me a lot. Andre 3000. There was like a really rough time in my life where I played hello by Andre 3000 and Erykah Badu like, daily. Yeah, it's a great EP every day, every morning. So probably I would say outkast, but growing up, I was a ti. Ludicrous fanatic.
Podcast Host 1
Can you give us a detailed review of his flute album?
Andrea Carter
Okay, so it's so funny that you said that. I haven't listened to it.
Podcast Host 2
You haven't?
Podcast Host 1
It's like everyone's lying because I said I listened to it. I got through like maybe two songs and I was like, I'm cool, Andre.
Podcast Host 2
But now listen, you got the nice nook, little den that you have, right?
Podcast Host 1
That looks like a flute area.
Podcast Host 2
It's the perfect vibe for the. For the. For the three Andre 3000 flute album. That's the perfect, like, aesthetic right there.
Andrea Carter
Okay.
Podcast Host 2
It's like, it's great. It's great background music.
Andrea Carter
Okay. Okay. So I haven't like. I might. Maybe I'll download it to like, walk through the airport or like, have playing while I'm playing.
Podcast Host 2
Exactly, exactly. That's exactly what it's made for. It's not. You're not going to sit there and be grooving and jamming. It's like, no, you're supposed to do something else and just have that in the back.
Podcast Host 1
I thought it was great for layup lines, but that's just me.
Podcast Host 2
Nah. If anybody play that before game, they're getting smacked by 30. That's a fact. It's too. It's too. It's too zen. It's too mellow. It's not enough up tempo. You know, get hype in the energy in that music.
Andrea Carter
But I'm big. Like, yeah, Meditating, reading, cleaning, Zen. So I'll. I'll give it a shot at some point. But when I'm, you know, moving as fast paced as I am right now.
Podcast Host 2
Yeah. Nah, that's not for that. It's not. It's not made for March Madness. You should probably listen to Future right now. That's who you need to be listening to right now.
Andrea Carter
Yeah, for sure.
Podcast Host 2
Who's your favorite female rapper?
Andrea Carter
Oh, wow. My favorite female rapper.
Podcast Host 2
Putting you on the spot.
Andrea Carter
That's so hard.
Podcast Host 2
Is it though?
Andrea Carter
That is hard for me. Why you have a favorite automatically?
Podcast Host 2
Yeah, Nikki, he's a barb. I'm A bar.
Andrea Carter
Nikki's like, Nikki is who I like. Oh, when you. Sorry, this just distracted me. Another song that was constantly on my playlist. I actually remember listening to this song on repeat before one of our state championship games. Roman's Revenge was like, yeah, one of my. Just on repeat. Yeah, that song. Honestly, like, Nikki would probably be. Just because of growing up constantly listening to Nikki. I can't say I've listened to a ton of anything that she's released new, but, like, if I had to go with what I've come up on and what I some go to's that I have, it would probably be Nikki.
Podcast Host 2
She's a barb.
Andrea Carter
A lot of respect to all.
Podcast Host 2
You're a barb, Andrea. That's it. You're a barb.
Podcast Host 1
I'm glad you took your time in answering that because the barbs are sensitive. They will pick apart every word that you say if you don't say. Everything she does is the greatest thing that you've ever seen in your life. But.
Andrea Carter
Yeah, but I listen to her. I've listened to her the most. So it would be very hard for me to pick. I feel like if I picked anyone else, I would be just trying to be somebody that I'm not. Like, I can't claim that I listen.
Podcast Host 2
I respect that.
Podcast Host 1
Well, we have to put diamond from Crime Mob in there then. If you listen to a lot of crime, diamond was the one.
Podcast Host 2
Yeah.
Podcast Host 1
Like, underrated. We don't even throw diamond in the mix when we have those female debates.
Podcast Host 2
Did she put out a solo project?
Podcast Host 1
Not that I'm aware of. She may have, but everything she did on Crime Mob, to me, she was the standout.
Podcast Host 2
Yeah. No, like, she's the one. Yeah. Like, it's. I'm. As a. As a man, I'm ashamed to say when her part comes on, I know it. Like, I get crazy to that part.
Podcast Host 1
What's your favorite? Diamond Bar.
Podcast Host 2
We're not doing that. We not doing that. What do you think about Dochi? She's. She just won best rap album. The third female artist to win that award. What do you think about Dochi?
Andrea Carter
I love Dochi. The album was great. That is an album that I listened to that I played straight through. I think she's great and I think you know what she stands for. I love her videos about. You know, she posted a video one time where she was like, I just want to pursue rap. Like, I just want to do what I love to do, but I have bills to pay and I have things that I need to take care of as an adult. And that resonated a lot with me because there was a time in my life where I just wanted to pursue tv, but I had bills that I needed to pay, and I needed insurance and I needed, you know, to take care of life as an adult. I couldn't just dedicate all of my time to tv. And so I had other jobs while pursuing the dream of being an analyst on tv. And so I think I resonate a lot with Dochi, and I love her sound. Her tiny desk was amazing and so much fun. So I like. I like Dochi a lot. And the album's great.
Podcast Host 1
Yeah, if I. If I didn't have bills, I'd be on my third flute album by now. I would not be podcasting whatsoever. I'd be in Union Square with a flute for sure. What other crazy jobs did you have while you were pursuing your career?
Andrea Carter
Now I did almost anything you could. Like, I did. I drove for Uber, drove for Lyft. I was a graduate assistant at our academic center at the University of Tennessee. I worked with the swim team and the softball team. I trained kids. I did, like, basketball skills training. I was an inside saleswoman at a company called Wood Grain Distribution. I sold crown molding.
Podcast Host 2
You sold crown molding?
Podcast Host 1
You have to give us a 30 second pitch. Pitch of crown molding.
Andrea Carter
Like, we just walked into the store like, this. Crown molding at the bottom of my loft looks like Crown 27 that I used to sell. But I would answer the phone every day, and I would wear casual clothes to work, and I would say, thank you for calling Woodcrain. This is Andrea. How can I help you every. Oh, my God, every day. But then I honestly was fortunate enough. My master's was in kinesiology, and I became an Orange Theory fitness coach. Okay, so I fitness for almost four years while doing TV on the side, and I. I loved that job, and it gave me a lot of purpose, and they were really flexible with my schedule. So once I fell into fitness coaching, I was good, but I had a lot of odd end jobs for before I fell into that, which then helped me get. Get to tv. But yes, I was selling crown molding. Well, I wasn't selling it. I had an outside salesperson that was making the sales sell like he was selling it to the customers.
Podcast Host 1
Oh, you were the pl. You were the one that had crumbled.
Andrea Carter
And kingpin the warehouse, Fill the order, answer the phone. If it was damaged, I would send a replacement. Like, that was my job.
Podcast Host 1
You drove Uber around Tennessee University of Tennessee.
Andrea Carter
I did.
Podcast Host 2
Yeah.
Andrea Carter
I drove Uber. So I'm like, what. What.
Podcast Host 1
What crazy Uber stories do you have? How many people threw up in your back seat? There's no way you could drive Uber around a college town and not have insane stories.
Andrea Carter
I had. I had. I only had one person throw up in my back seat. That was a nightmare. But what's funny is, actually, I was in Knoxville, and I wanted to move back to Atlanta, and the man that hired me at Wood Grain, he was my passenger in Uber. That's how I got that job.
Podcast Host 2
Oh, wow.
Podcast Host 1
That's crazy.
Andrea Carter
So that. Yeah, like, crazy series of events. But he got in the car. I was like, you know, where are you from? You know me, I'm a talker. So I'm like, where are you from? And he's like, I'm from Georgia. I'm like, oh, me too. I went to Beaufort High School, and one of my teammates worked for him at Wood Grain, and he was like, oh, what's your. What was your major? I said, communication studies. And he was like, oh, well, I work at this company. Here's my card. And I was so ready to move back to Atlanta. It was full time, it had benefits, it was a salary job.
Podcast Host 2
Yeah.
Andrea Carter
And I moved back to Atlanta. So that's probably my craziest Uber story, because, honestly, the Ubers were pretty chill in Knoxville. I never. I drove during the day a lot, so I never really had any issues.
Podcast Host 2
Oh, yeah, during the day is safe.
Podcast Host 1
I'm. I don't want to throw my guy under the bus here. I'm happy. I'm happy. He's being respectful to our lovely guest here, but Mal believes that women should not drive Uber at night.
Podcast Host 2
At night. See, he's trying to. He's trying to frame that, like, I don't think women are good drivers. No.
Podcast Host 1
He ended the sentence with stay in the kitchen.
Podcast Host 2
No, I. I believe that it's not safe for women to drive Ubers at night. I don't think that women should drive Ubers at night. And you said during the day you drove, so you kind of are on my side there.
Andrea Carter
I drove during the. Because I didn't want to drive at night. I'm also not the greatest driver, but I respect that for my schedule.
Podcast Host 2
Yeah.
Andrea Carter
I would just say myself. I'm not the. I know a lot of women that are great drivers, but I don't. I mean, I think anybody's at risk driving Uber at night, honestly.
Podcast Host 2
Yeah, no, for sure. But it's just like a woman picking up strangers at night. Something about that just doesn't seem right.
Podcast Host 1
They should. They should be selling crown molding from.
Podcast Host 2
The comfort of their home and their beautiful nook in their loft. Yes, exactly. That is what women should be doing. So looking at your backdrop, you seem like you have ocd, Andrea. Like, you look like you're very, like, in order. It look like if somebody takes a book off your shelf, you will notice it immediately. I saw that you have 199 career steals at Tennessee. How much is that one steal for 200 careers sitting on you? Like, fuck.
Andrea Carter
You know what's crazy is I didn't know I had 199. But as soon as you said that. My OCD.
Podcast Host 2
Yeah, yeah. When I read it, I have OCD. And when I read it, I was like, this has to be killing her.
Andrea Carter
Yeah, that's annoying. I actually wish you wouldn't have told me that.
Podcast Host 1
But you have her. Suit up.
Podcast Host 2
Yeah.
Podcast Host 1
Green roll.
Podcast Host 2
Just one more game, Andre. Just one more.
Andrea Carter
No, no, can't do it, Cannot do it. I would get negative like, no, can't do it now, but that 200 would have been great.
Podcast Host 2
Oh, man. 199 is just like. That's like scoring 49 and coach takes you out. It' like, what are you doing? Like, I gotta get this 50 ball. Speaking of Tennessee, how was it playing for the legendary Rest in Peace to the legendary Coach Patch Summit? You were actually one of her. The last signees that I think played under Coach Summit. How was it playing for legendary Coach Summit?
Andrea Carter
Yeah, you know, Pat was amazing. So I actually, I committed as a sophomore. Tennessee was where I knew I wanted to go. Like, that was my dream school. I was recruited by Pat, got to know her, committed to her. But my senior year was, you know, when she made the announcement about her diagnosis. So my freshman year was actually her head coach emeritus year, so she was still around.
Podcast Host 2
Okay.
Andrea Carter
But Holly, My first four years, my four years in college were. Were Holly Warlick's first four years as a head coach. So it was actually an interesting transition because the coaches, you know, Pat Deja, Charles Furlow, the coaches that I talked to the most actually weren't my coaches at Tennessee. They got the new staff and they were so great and I had an amazing time. But I can say that in getting to know Pat and spending time with her, although it wasn't necessarily coach player on the court, there was still a lot of influence and connection and closeness and a lot of love and support. I learned a lot from her just in being recruited by her Spending time at her home, spending time with her in Knoxville. I would go watch their practices because it's a quick drive from Atlanta to Knoxville. So I would go up there a lot, and I would get to watch her, obviously, before, you know, everything happened with her and her health. But it's. I never take that time for granted, and the time that I did have is still very influential for me, for sure.
Podcast Host 1
Love that. What was the culture difference going from metro Atlanta up to Knoxville?
Andrea Carter
I don't. I don't know. It was pretty different just in terms of the. There's more twang. There was more country. There was more, you know, culturally that those things were different. But where I grew up in Beaufort and I grew up in Gwinnett County, Flowery branch. I had family in Atlanta, and I would spend time with, you know, all of. All of my family. But even that was more Conyers, Covington, Lithonia, like, all those areas. But for me, I think I adjusted well to Tennessee. The high school I went to was very mixed and blended and, you know, so it wasn't. It didn't feel as much of a culture shock for me when I got to Knoxville.
Podcast Host 1
I hear that.
Podcast Host 2
Which one of you, you know, doing analyst work and sideline work with espn, obviously, you get to spend a lot of time around different people there. Which one of your co hosts would you say has the worst take or taste in music? Like, you just hear them. You hear what they're listening to, and you're like, please turn that off.
Andrea Carter
You know, I couldn't tell you who has the worst, because Elle Duncan always has the Ox, and Elle has phenomenal taste of music.
Podcast Host 1
Really.
Podcast Host 2
Okay.
Andrea Carter
Honestly, like her. Her tase. No one ever has the Ox. Like, no one has ever asked for the Ox. No one has ever. You know, Holly Rowe one time asked for the Ox, but it was because it was a Sunday and she wanted to play gospel music, which we were fine with that.
Podcast Host 1
So you kind of got it.
Podcast Host 2
You gotta be fine with that. You can't argue with Jesus. You can't do that.
Andrea Carter
Yeah, right. But other than that, Elle Duncan always has the Ox. On the men's college side, J. Will usually has the ox, and he knows what's good. So, Yeah, I don't think. I don't think I've gotten to experience anyone's bad taste in music, because we just. We know. We know who.
Podcast Host 2
What is J.
Andrea Carter
Will playing the ops. And I can match the room. Whatever. Whatever. Whatever the room needs, I can get there.
Podcast Host 2
Okay, so you read the room. You Kind of see who's in there and you're like, okay, I can go with this artist. I can go with that artist. But J Will. I don't know something about J Will with the aux.
Podcast Host 1
I'm like, he's Jersey, right?
Podcast Host 2
Yeah. He's also a dookie, though.
Andrea Carter
But. But it's. I've never.
Podcast Host 2
I don't know if I trust dookies with the aux cord.
Andrea Carter
He's never played a song and I'm like, joe, well, we'll turn this off. Like, I. I can honestly say, like, he's never. Okay, he's never ruined it. My taste in music, I probably would say I have the most range, but that's because I listen to literally everything growing up. Like, people say they have range and they don't.
Podcast Host 2
And they don't.
Andrea Carter
But yeah, I would just give L to flip that question because I don't know who has the worst. But L is trusted on the ops.
Podcast Host 1
I feel like J Will only probably listens to like, Nas HOV Cameron because he's older too, so the age gap has to be different. And culturally, Jersey, I just feel like he wouldn't listen to. If you threw Crime Mob on, I feel like he'd leave the studio. That's.
Andrea Carter
I'm gonna have to ask.
Podcast Host 1
The vibe he gives me.
Andrea Carter
I never asked him to listen to Crime Bob.
Podcast Host 1
I also feel like Coach K wouldn't allow you to listen to music, so maybe he missed like a whole gap.
Podcast Host 2
Nah, Coach K. I heard Coach K is cool. I heard he's one of the.
Podcast Host 1
A quiet locker room.
Podcast Host 2
Yeah. No, no, you can't. You can't have a quiet locker room. We're not doing a quiet locker room.
Andrea Carter
It is funny though. Like, we were at one of Duke's shoot and practices and they were playing music while they were warming up and playing all types of music. And JWill was like, oh, yeah, this is a little different. Like when they warmed up, it was like, you know, when you're like 1, 2, 3, you're counting out loud. And that was your.
Podcast Host 2
Yeah. Because Coach K is a military. He's a military guy. So everything has to be kind of like, you know, I guess I do.
Andrea Carter
Think maybe locker room had music. But the on court has evolved for. From what I've been told at Duke.
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Andrea Carter
Ooh yes, that's smart.
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Glad we can agree on something easily.
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Podcast Host 2
How much has the women's side of the ncaa? Obviously, with Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese having their quote unquote rivalry, I think what they did for women's basketball is amazing on both levels. Colle and wnba, I think that they've brought in a whole different audience. But as somebody that's played and now on the sideline watching it, how do you think they've been able to elevate and impact, first of all, the audience and just the way the game is played?
Andrea Carter
Yeah, I think just the game has grown so much, and I do think the growth in audience and the way that now it is known and trusted that each. These players are marketable and these players will sell whatever product you want them to sell. Like these. These players and these women are that talented and they're that good, and people are that interested in these players on and off the court. Like, I think that's probably you, don't. We. Now we don't have to convince, whether it's brands or investors or people buying ads, like, we don't have to convince them that it is worth buying this or worth investing in this. Like, I think that's. You know, we actually have people wanting in. They want to be involved and they want to know more. And whether it's even. Even shows, like different shows on ESPN now want women's basketball topics.
Podcast Host 2
Right.
Andrea Carter
And, you know, more people want in and more people recognize the skill, the value, the talent, the marketability, all of that. So it's. It's been incredible. You know, like, I've talked about how a few seasons ago, I could go through March Madness and not have many requests outside of the shows that we're doing. And now we're moving through March Madness, and it's like, oh, well, this show wants you at this time. And then can you hop on Good Morning America early in the morning? And can you. Can you hop on first take and get up? And, you know, there's a want there and there's an interest there, and I think it was always growing. And I think, you know, that moment with Caitlin and with angel and that Final Four and that national championship and all of that and how it's carried over, it's just exploded. And now the wheel is turning and supporting itself. You know, like, before, it would be like, well, people don't want to invest because there's not that much visibility and they aren't sure if they're going to get a return. Now there is visibility, the fans are engaged, and there's investment, and the talent is absolutely ridiculous. So everything.
Podcast Host 2
Everything is clicking.
Andrea Carter
Yeah. Everything.
Podcast Host 2
Yeah. Actually, the women's. I believe the women's championship game had more viewers than the men's last year, Correct?
Andrea Carter
I think so.
Podcast Host 2
Which is crazy.
Andrea Carter
That number wasn't. I mean, high millions. Like. Yeah, not 20 million, but it was. It was up there. It was very. Was it 19 million? I don't want to get that wrong.
Podcast Host 2
It was close. I think it was. It was 18 for sure. I think it was a little over 18 million.
Andrea Carter
It was an insane number. Absolutely.
Podcast Host 1
Have you chosen a side yet? LeBron James or Stephen Ace? Man.
Andrea Carter
I mean, you know, I just let them hash it out, you know, that's. That's between Stephen A. And LeBron. That doesn't have anything to do with me as.
Podcast Host 1
As a broadcaster, though. I mean, we discuss it on our podcast, too, because we go through similar things. We do have relationships with artists and labels or whatever, so we run into stuff like that as well. But we still need to be able to speak freely because we talk every day about the genre. Do you think broadcasters will hold back a little bit more now, now that LeBron is confronting people courtside?
Andrea Carter
I don't know if broadcasters will hold back. I just think, like, I know for. For me personally as a broadcaster, I always just have to make sure what I'm saying is coming from the right place. Like, it's. That it's. It's not personal. It's coming from a place of. I'm calling it how I see it. Like, I'm very much one to. If I see a team doing one thing and I call it out and then they change it, I'll be sure to acknowledge the change and acknowledge the improvement and acknowledge that. Because when I do have to stand in front of a team or I do have to stand in front of a coach that I've spoken about, I can stand strong on my foundation that I'm just calling it how I see it, you know, And I think that. That maybe this situation and players calling out broadcasters or LeBron calling out Stephen A. I hope it brings an awareness to everyone that you could get called out. And if you do get called out, you need to make sure. Or you should make sure that you can stand on what you said and the reason that you said what you said was valid and not personal or not trying to get off on something else, if that makes sense. Like, that's kind of my take on all of this, because it's not an easy place to be. There are a lot of people who can say a lot of things and never have to face. Face the athlete. They never have to. They never have to face the artist, you know? But I picked Final Four teams, and unless I get my Final Four right, I will be interviewing teams that I didn't think they were going to make it in.
Podcast Host 1
Yeah.
Andrea Carter
And so I stand on my reasoning for why I didn't think that. And Then give them credit for making it. Making it Final Four. So it's.
Podcast Host 2
It's.
Andrea Carter
It is a tricky place to be, but it's. Yeah, I think just trusting where your information and opinion comes from and standing on that has been the biggest thing.
Podcast Host 1
Have you avoided any huddles before, based off some things you've said in the past? I've definitely skipped concerts that I wanted to go to because I was like, eh. I said. I said some crazy shit. I probably shouldn't go over there.
Podcast Host 2
Yeah, I wanted to go to the Pop out myself, but they wouldn't let me go.
Podcast Host 1
Definitely. They had your picture up.
Andrea Carter
No, I haven't. I haven't avoided anything, luckily. I think it would give me. I think the only way I would avoid anything is if I said something that didn't come from a good place. Like, if I. Most of my. Everything I say is from analysis, it's because I've watched it and I feel it and I believe it. And if I'm right, I'm right, and if I'm wrong, I'm okay with being wrong, you know? So for me, I've never had to avoid anyone. There have been some situations where I'm like, hey, I didn't think y'all were gonna make it. Congratulations. Right? Or like, I didn't think that because of this. Or, you know, but I've never. I haven't had to avoid anything. I think I would only avoid it if I knew I was in the wrong or it came from a bad place. And I haven't, you know, been fortunate enough where, you know. Because I think sometimes people. Not saying that you did, but sometimes people just get really caught up and then they just say something that maybe they didn't. Actually.
Podcast Host 1
I do that all the time. It's fine. Offenders.
Podcast Host 2
I love doing that. I love doing.
Podcast Host 1
That's actually like, the theme of the podcast.
Andrea Carter
Yeah. No, that's not me. I've never had a situation where I've had to be like, hey, I did not mean to say that. I'm really sorry. Like, everything that has been very much what I've seen, what I've watched, what I feel.
Podcast Host 2
Is there like a. A secret kind of. I guess beef could be the word between. Because what I've noticed over the last years, and I absolutely love it, is that more and more former players and athletes are getting these analyst jobs and getting these jobs with these, you know, these spots on espn. Is there, like, a little beef between writers and, like, former players who are now coming in and taking these analyst jobs. Because I love the fact that you have former players that are able to speak from actually playing the game and actually being in these situations when it comes to whether it's March Madness or the NBA playoffs, versus a writer that's just great at just, you know, writing things about players and teams. And it's like, yeah, but you've never been in that situation, which I also think is a big part of Stephen A. And LeBron's thing. I think that the fact that Stephen A. Isn't a player or former player and he speaks about former players the way he does and, you know, things like that, I think that had a lot to do with LeBron's being upset about what he said. But is there, like, a little kind of like tension between writers and former players coming and getting these analyst jobs?
Andrea Carter
I've never experienced any tension on the writer side. I do think that sometimes as an analyst or as a former player, I'll run into a coach or somebody that is very mad about something that a writer put out. And for me, I'm like, I didn't write that. Or I either agree or I don't agree, or this is what I think about that. So I have found myself explaining or catching heat for something that's been put out on as an article.
Podcast Host 2
Right.
Andrea Carter
But that's. That's not how I feel. Right. And so there are. There are writers for ESPN that write their opinion and they write their analysis. And sometimes people look at us as the on air and they're, like, looking at us sideways because of something that came out, but it's not. That wasn't my work. That wasn't my analysis. It wasn't my take. But I don't. I don't know. There's no beef on my end, but I don't have very much beef at all. But it is interesting to have different perspectives coming from different outlets. And hopefully the people at home can decide whose opinion or analysis they trust more. But that is the. There are definitely more opinions, more pieces of analysis than there ever has been, especially on the women's side. Like, more people want to speak on the women's game and give their thoughts and give their opinions. And a lot of them don't have as much contextual knowledge or historical knowledge as others. And so I think, really, if there was beef, it would be from the audience and them deciding who they want to listen to, because there's just a lot of noise and there are a lot of takes that there haven't been or.
Podcast Host 2
But now that it is March Madness. Who are some of the players that you're looking at? And as a former player yourself, saying him, I wish I had the opportunity to match up against them there.
Andrea Carter
Oh, I. I mean, I don't. I don't know if I want to match up against any of these players now. Like, these. These players. These women are so talented. Like, I haven't once I've maybe thought of maybe how I would try to guard them or just try to make life difficult on some players. But for me, like, those players are really, just, when it comes down to it, the ones I enjoy watching the most. Like, I find myself more fascinated by how talented they are and how skilled they are. And as someone that couldn't do a lot of the moves that I'm seeing, I'm not thinking about how to defend them. I'm thinking about how they do them. Like, how do you do that? That is so much harder than people think it is. Like, I don't think people at home understand the degree of difficulty of some of these moves and how quickly these players just. It's almost like instinct. Like, it is not easy to do a crossover and then switch your feet into a step back and then go right into your shot. Right.
Podcast Host 2
It's.
Andrea Carter
That's. That type of stuff is it's not easy to go off your same foot because it's natural to go off your opposite and go off the same side leg because you're trying to mistime a block from the director. That's right. Like, to me, I. I rarely think about matching up with them because I'm really thinking about, like, how good they are. Like, it was. It's so much fun. Like, Juju Paige, my lage to Full Wiley with how crafty she is. Like, it would be fun to try to defend them and to try to make life hard on them. But to me, they have the advantage because of how good they are with the ball. Like, those are the players that manipulate the defense. Like, you know how as a defender, you want to dictate the offensive player. That was my main job at Tennessee, was to guard the best player, dictate what she does on offense, take away her tendencies, take away her strengths. Like, that was my role. And these players now dictate the defense, and that's fun for me to watch.
Podcast Host 2
This the girl that plays at Rutgers, is it Kiyomi McMiller? I think that's her name. Her game is absolutely insane. Like, I don't know if y'all have ever seen this girl play the shit. She's doing is like, this is NBA 2K Street Jam, creative player. She's doing things that, honestly, I would see a men's player doing that and a coach pulling them out the game. Cause it's like she's doing stuff that's like, yo, you're not supposed to be doing that. This is like, college basketball. This is not the park her game.
Podcast Host 1
Skip to my Lou.
Podcast Host 2
On another level, though, like, her game is absolutely like. And I saw her, a friend of mine, he's a. He's a scout for the Brooklyn Nets, and he played college and pro ball, and he sent me one of her highlight reels, and I'm like, yo, is this real? I couldn't believe what she was doing at the collegiate level. Also, juju is another one of my favorite players to watch. I think that she's obviously, along with Caitlin and Angel and juju, what they've been able to do for women's collegiate basketball is, to me, it made me want to honestly watch women's college basketball a lot more. And I grew up watching it. Shamika Holdsclaw from New York City, a Tennessee volunteer. She was another one of the players that I like growing up. But now that it is March Madness, who are the teams that you're looking at? Andrea? Like, okay, these are the four teams to beat.
Andrea Carter
How many teams? Obviously, South Carolina, like the way that Dawn Staley has depth and talent and more than 40 points coming off of her bench. There just aren't many teams who can match that. Like, you might play well against the starting five, but whoever's coming in next because you're starting five, is going to get tired. Whoever's coming in. Don has more starters coming in. Coach Staley has more. She has another starting unit. So I think that South Carolina. Any team that wants to beat South Carolina would have to make a ton of shot. Like, there's just such little room for error going against South Carolina. You have to make the most of every opportunity because of the depth that they have. I'm really interested in. And I've said whoever comes out of the USC UConn region, which I just can't stand that they're in the same region, because I think that is a Final Four matchup.
Podcast Host 1
Absolutely.
Andrea Carter
It's too early in the bracket.
Podcast Host 2
Yeah.
Andrea Carter
But that team, I'm really interested in it being their time to make a run. UCLA is interesting. They have six, seven. They have the size, and they have shooters around her. 1. It was Carolyn Peck, I believe, believe, who made the point that UCLA last. UCLA this year is similar to South Carolina last year in terms of South Carolina at Camila Cardoso, who was the anchor. She was 6, 7. It was so hard to compete with that in the middle. Yeah, but then you round that player with a ton of talent. That's what UCLA has. UCLA hasn't been there before, so that's going to be interesting. How do they handle that moment? And I'm interested in Texas and TCU and Notre Dame, who comes out of that region. So those would be probably the teams I'm looking at the most.
Podcast Host 2
Is there any. Any team who you feel like people need to pay attention to in this. In this women's tournament? A team that many people may not be speaking about, but that as a. As a former player and as analyst, you're looking at like they have pieces and they're not afraid and they. They might upset one of these bigger programs?
Andrea Carter
Yeah, Florida State is a team. I mean, they have the, the best scorer in the nation in tonight. Ladson, they've got Timpson on the inside, who is a workhorse. They're a team that upset Notre Dame at Notre Dame. And I mean, Tonia Lassen is putting up 25. She's averaging 25 points a game. So she's the type of player that you let her go off. She is someone that has led the country in scoring all season and they haven't had as much success as a team. But I don't think people have talked about her enough. TCU is a team that has a big three. This Haley Van Lith and what she's been able to do with that team, the pick and roll game. They have six, seven on the inside. So they're a really interesting team to me. I had my eye on Kentucky as a team because Kenny Brooks led Virginia Tech to a Final Four. And he is an excellent coach. Him and his point guard are very connected. His point guard is a WNBA draft pick that a lot of coaches have talked to me about when it comes to going to the W. Georgia Amore is her name. I was in that team until I saw that they were in USC and UConn's bracket. And then I was like, ah, yeah.
Podcast Host 2
It'S gonna be tough to get past that.
Andrea Carter
That. That one. That one might be tough. But yeah, I think. I think Florida State is a very interesting. LSU is always interesting. And I know people talk about LSU a lot, but the way that Flaje Johnson and Anissa Morrow and Michaela Williams, when I talk about a big three like those three, they all average 15 and then Flaje and Michaela Williams, they can go get a bucket at any time there. Yeah. There are so many teams. North Carolina State made a run last year. They've got really dynamic guards. So, yeah, it's. I could keep going.
Podcast Host 2
So it sounds like. It sounds like you like South Carolina again and UConn.
Andrea Carter
If I had to pick a national championship, It's. It's. It is. I would say the line is so thin between UConn and USC, but. But there is something about being there before, and almost everyone on this Yukon team has been there before, and even the players that come off the bench, even the role players, they. They know what it takes. And that, to me, they have a little more experience from the guard position. Their pieces fit. Juju is phenomenal. She is, you know, incredible. I just think it would take a lot, but I would honestly love to see either of them in the final four. But if I had to pick two, I would say South Carolina, UConn for the national championship.
Podcast Host 1
Before we get out of here, I do want to end with some. Some music questions. We did a versus series with Pac man, who's also from Georgia, so I wanted to do a iteration of that with you. You named T.I. as being one of your favorites, but you also named Ludicrous. You have to pick one out of these two. Ti or Ludicrous?
Andrea Carter
I just have to pick an artist right now?
Podcast Host 1
Yep. I'm gonna go through a list, and it's a Versus. Which one are you taking?
Podcast Host 2
Ti or Ludicrous?
Andrea Carter
Wow. Ludicrous.
Podcast Host 1
Interesting. After all the TI Talk, I thought. I thought we'd go that way.
Podcast Host 2
And you know what's funny? We talk about Ludacris a lot and him not being spoken about more, so. It is dope to hear you pick Ludicrous in that scenario.
Podcast Host 1
He deserves.
Andrea Carter
I could just see him, like. I don't know. Just way more energy with it. Like, you know. You know, like, when you talk about a versus or a moment, like, I'm going, like, absolutely crazy.
Podcast Host 1
Yeah. This one might get you jammed up because you said you're from Gwinnett County. Migos or Outkast.
Andrea Carter
Oh, yeah, I'm still going outkast. But that's. That's a good one. That is.
Podcast Host 2
I like Andrea.
Podcast Host 1
See, I like her, but I don't know. She'll be allowed back home for Thanksgiving.
Podcast Host 2
That's all right. I like the fact that she went outcast on that one.
Podcast Host 1
I like that future young thug.
Podcast Host 2
This is gonna. All right, Andrea. See, this is gonna tell me A lot about you in a personal life. Why are you picking Future? Why Listening to Future?
Andrea Carter
I. I have just. Honestly, they're not two. They're not two artists that I listen to often, but I can say I've listened to Future more.
Podcast Host 2
Okay.
Andrea Carter
So, like, if you're just asking me to pick between the two.
Podcast Host 2
Okay.
Andrea Carter
I would have to go. Yeah, I'd have to go with Future. I've just listened to, you know, like, my time coming up in Knoxville college, when we were going out and we were outside and we were like. Like, Future was the only thing playing. And you could play a different Future song from a different Future album every 30 minutes while you were in the club or at the bar. So for. For me, when I'm thinking about my experiences, it would Future, Although. Yeah. Yeah, it'd be Future.
Podcast Host 1
Last question before we get out of here. Do you have a top five, Get Ready for the game playlist? What would be on it?
Andrea Carter
Five songs, Get Ready for the game.
Podcast Host 1
Like, locker room, shoot around. Yeah.
Andrea Carter
When I was playing, just in general.
Podcast Host 1
It could be now for other athletes or what you did at that time.
Andrea Carter
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2
Like, if you had to make the playlist for the championship game and, like, all right, this is what teams are listening to in their locker rooms. What are five songs? Andrea's like, all right, ladies, this is. This is what. What we're listening to before we hit the floor. What are the five songs?
Andrea Carter
I. Five songs. Well, I probably go tweaking because everybody loves that song.
Podcast Host 2
Andrea, you about to make me walk off the step, man. I hate that.
Podcast Host 1
Is the only person that hates that song.
Podcast Host 2
I hate that song.
Andrea Carter
Why do you hate that song?
Podcast Host 2
Because it just sounds like chat GPT wrote it from, and somebody said, 98k cash money. Give me a 98 cash money.
Podcast Host 1
They smoked it.
Podcast Host 2
Yeah, but I just. It's. No, it's just not. It doesn't feel authentic.
Andrea Carter
You don't think it feels authentic?
Podcast Host 2
Not at all, no.
Andrea Carter
What, is it the sound of it or is it the words?
Podcast Host 2
A little bit of both.
Podcast Host 1
Oh, you can understand them. Yeah, I just like the melody.
Podcast Host 2
See, I. I see. And that's the problem right there.
Podcast Host 1
I know. Whoa, whoa.
Andrea Carter
You can honestly say you listen to the song and you don't want to go, whoa.
Podcast Host 1
Yeah.
Andrea Carter
You never want to do that. You never. Everyone.
Podcast Host 2
No, Andrea.
Podcast Host 1
Well, luckily, this playlist isn't for you. It's for everyone else that likes.
Podcast Host 2
Okay, I respect it. Tweak. Okay. I respect it.
Andrea Carter
Like, this is. This is. I honestly. I'm not. You all are way More versed, probably in the new. Were rap music.
Podcast Host 2
Yeah.
Andrea Carter
Why don't you give me one to listen to my next show.
Podcast Host 1
N Buck out the gate. Right. Knuck if you buck for sure. Since.
Andrea Carter
Oh, we can go. I thought you wanted it for. Right, like.
Podcast Host 1
No, just in general.
Podcast Host 2
Any of your. Any songs that you pick.
Podcast Host 1
What you. Yeah. What you would like.
Andrea Carter
Oh, no, if you buck has to be on it. We. Some players for sure. If I'm going with, I would probably pick a TI Song.
Podcast Host 2
Okay.
Andrea Carter
The one I loved the most growing up was probably one of his most popular ones. And you don't know me. Could sing every single word.
Podcast Host 2
That's my. That's my.
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Podcast Host 2
Yeah.
Podcast Host 1
We're at a good four. Well, yeah, if we. If we count jello.
Andrea Carter
Oh, if we count tweaking.
Podcast Host 1
Yeah, that's five.
Podcast Host 2
Then you see how tweaking just don't sound right in that mix.
Podcast Host 1
You don't think it goes with nothing, but I think it works.
Andrea Carter
I was trying to go with. I thought you all wanted songs, like, right now.
Podcast Host 2
No, just your five. Just your five. That you would say. All right, this is what. This is what we playing in the locker room.
Andrea Carter
Yeah. Those three Knuck. If you buck me some players. Some players probably like if I stuck with TI Bring them out.
Podcast Host 2
Okay. That makes sense.
Andrea Carter
I'll give you Two crime mob, two T.I. songs. Songs to give this wave of.
Podcast Host 2
Yeah.
Andrea Carter
Players. Songs to listen to. And then tweaking. Because they know that one. That's fine.
Podcast Host 2
Bring them out. Makes sense.
Podcast Host 1
Coming out of the label.
Podcast Host 2
That's.
Podcast Host 1
That's first rap song that says Albuquerque in it.
Podcast Host 2
Yeah. So that makes absolute.
Podcast Host 1
That means Albuquerque to Chat town.
Podcast Host 2
Yeah. Classic. Classic record.
Podcast Host 1
Absolutely. And I have so much respect for you that we finally gave Prime Mob their flowers today. I feel like we did some justice here and someone finally brought them up because they don't get brought up enough, especially with Atlanta music.
Podcast Host 2
Yeah.
Podcast Host 1
So I'm. I'm very happy that you mentioned them out the gate. I did not expect that. That was like, the last one that I thought you'd say, but I'm very happy. Anything else?
Podcast Host 2
No, that's it. Andrea, thank you for kicking it with us. We absolutely don't know Ball, but we feel like we learned a little bit more today in talking to you. So we appreciate your time and have fun during March Madness. Don't let them work you too hard. Don't let any players walk up on you. We got your back. Just call us. Let us know. We'll pull up and hold you down. But it's been a pleasure talking to you and congratulations on everything that you're doing. We'll be watching out for you and supporting you along the way.
Andrea Carter
Thank you. I appreciate y'all so much.
Podcast Host 1
And I'm using all your picks for my bets, so if it doesn't work out, we're gonna have to have to do another episode and there's gonna be some tension.
Andrea Carter
Let me know. Let me know how it goes.
Podcast Host 2
Rory Mole. Don't know. Ball. That was Andrea Carter. Thank you very much.
Andrea Carter
No worry about.
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Podcast Summary: Rory & Mal Don't Know Ball | Andrea Carter
Podcast Information:
Introduction
In the episode titled "Rory & Mal Don't Know Ball," hosts Rory and Mal delve into the world of basketball with special guest Andrea Carter, a distinguished ESPN basketball analyst, host, and reporter. Known for her insightful commentary and extensive experience in the sport, Andrea brings a wealth of knowledge to the conversation, offering listeners an in-depth look into her career, March Madness, and the evolving landscape of women's basketball.
Career Path and Work-Life Balance
Andrea Carter shares her diverse career journey, highlighting the various roles she held before establishing herself in sports media. From driving for Uber and Lyft to working as a graduate assistant at the University of Tennessee, Andrea's path was anything but linear. She emphasizes the importance of adaptability and perseverance in pursuing one's passions.
Andrea Carter [11:08]: "I did almost anything you could. I drove for Uber, drove for Lyft. I was a graduate assistant... I sold crown molding."
Andrea also discusses the challenges of balancing multiple jobs while striving to achieve her dream of becoming a television analyst. Her experience underscores the value of flexibility and resilience in overcoming professional obstacles.
Music and Team Dynamics
A significant portion of the discussion revolves around music's role in team dynamics and personal motivation. Andrea reminisces about her high school days, where music was a crucial element in pre-game preparations. She shares anecdotes about her teammates' music choices and how specific songs, like "We Some Players" by Crime Mob and tracks by T.I., energized the team.
Andrea Carter [04:34]: "We always played 'We Some Players' by Crime Mob... TI was my and my team's go-to artist."
The hosts engage Andrea in a playful debate about favorite artists, revealing her deep appreciation for Atlanta's rich musical heritage, including Outkast and Ludacris. This segment highlights how music serves as a unifying force and a source of motivation for athletes.
March Madness Insights
As March Madness approaches, Andrea provides expert analysis on the tournament's key players and teams. She praises the growth of women's basketball, citing players like Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese, whose performances have captivated audiences and elevated the sport's profile.
Andrea Carter [24:11]: "The players... are that talented and they're that good, and people are that interested in these players on and off the court."
Andrea breaks down the strengths of top teams, particularly South Carolina under Coach Dawn Staley, noting their depth and the strategic advantage it provides.
Andrea Carter [37:11]: "South Carolina... has depth and talent and more than 40 points coming off of her bench. There just aren't many teams who can match that."
She also highlights potential upsets and under-the-radar teams like Florida State and TCU, emphasizing their standout players and strategic gameplay that could disrupt the tournament's expected outcomes.
Growth of Women's Basketball
Andrea passionately discusses the burgeoning popularity of women's basketball, attributing its rise to the marketability and skill of its players. She observes that increased visibility has attracted brands, investors, and media attention, creating a self-sustaining growth cycle.
Andrea Carter [25:07]: "It's been incredible... the fans are engaged, and there's investment, and the talent is absolutely ridiculous."
She credits landmark moments, such as high-profile rivalries and championship performances, for drawing significant viewership and fostering a dedicated fan base.
Broadcasting and Analytical Tensions
The conversation touches on the evolving role of broadcasters in sports, particularly the dynamic between former players-turned-analysts and traditional sports writers. Andrea reflects on the potential for conflicting perspectives and the importance of maintaining professional integrity.
Andrea Carter [32:15]: "I believe if broadcasters will hold back... you need to make sure that you can stand on what you said and the reason that you said what you said was valid."
She emphasizes the necessity for broadcasters to base their analyses on factual observations and personal insights rather than personal biases, ensuring credibility and trustworthiness in their commentary.
Personal Anecdotes and Locker Room Stories
Andrea shares memorable experiences from her time as a player and analyst, including humorous interactions and behind-the-scenes moments. These stories offer listeners a glimpse into the interpersonal dynamics of sports teams and the lighter side of the intense competition.
Andrea Carter [12:46]: "The man that hired me at Wood Grain, he was my passenger in Uber... That's my craziest Uber story."
Such anecdotes not only humanize Andrea but also illustrate the unpredictable nature of career paths in the sports industry.
Music Preferences and Locker Room Playlists
In a lighthearted segment, Andrea discusses her personal music preferences for pre-game motivation. She reveals her top choices, including tracks by T.I. and Crime Mob, which have been staples in her workout and preparation routines.
Andrea Carter [46:47]: "I would have to go with a TI Song... The one I loved the most growing up was probably one of his most popular ones."
The hosts and Andrea engage in a playful exchange about music authenticity and preferences, adding a fun and relatable element to the episode.
Closing Remarks
As the episode concludes, Rory and Mal express their appreciation for Andrea's insights and contributions to the discussion. They commend her for shedding light on the complexities of women's basketball and the nuances of sports broadcasting.
Rory [48:25]: "Andrea, thank you for kicking it with us... congratulations on everything that you're doing."
Andrea reciprocates the gratitude, emphasizing the importance of community support and mutual respect in the sports media landscape.
Conclusion
"Rory & Mal Don't Know Ball | Andrea Carter" offers a comprehensive exploration of Andrea Carter's expertise in basketball analysis, her personal journey, and the transformative growth of women's basketball. Through engaging dialogue and insightful reflections, the episode provides listeners with a deeper understanding of the sport's evolving dynamics and the pivotal role of knowledgeable analysts in shaping its future.
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