Rory & Mal Don't Know Ball | Trey Smith

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Rory & Mal Don't Know Ball | Trey Smith"

Episode Information:

• Title: Rory & Mal Don't Know Ball | Trey Smith
• Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume
• Release Date: May 8, 2025
• Description: New stories, new laughs, new random hot takes that no one asked for... New Rory & Mal

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Introduction to Trey Smith

The episode kicks off at [02:26] with Rory and Mal welcoming Trey Smith, a standout offensive lineman for the Kansas City Chiefs. Recognized for his remarkable journey from the 226th pick in the 2021 NFL Draft to becoming a two-time Super Bowl champion and Pro Bowler, Trey brings a wealth of experience and insight to the conversation.

Injury and Recovery

At [03:48], Rory addresses Trey’s recent leg injury, expressing concern about his recovery and mental state. Trey shares his positive progress, emphasizing the importance of consistency in his rehabilitation regimen:

Trey Smith [04:10]: "I work with a dude named Duke Mannyweather... The newbie electrocurrent sim machine does miracles and wonders."

He discusses the challenges of maintaining physical fitness and the necessity of adhering to a strict recovery plan to stay competitive in the demanding role of an offensive lineman.

Personal Life and Hobbies

Transitioning to his personal life, Trey reveals his passion for video gaming and socializing with friends and former teammates:

Trey Smith [05:25]: "I'm a big video gamer... Just chilling with the homies, man."

He also recounts his first vacation in two years to Turks and Caicos, highlighting activities like kayaking and jet skiing, which provided him much-needed relaxation and recreation outside the rigors of professional football.

Super Bowl Experiences

A significant portion of the discussion delves into Trey's Super Bowl experiences. He reflects on the intense preparation and media frenzy leading up to the games:

Trey Smith [11:08]: "It's a complete circus... It's non-stop, so it's a lot to deal with."

Trey shares his mindset during these high-stakes moments, emphasizing focus and routine to manage nerves:

Trey Smith [12:56]: "Just go out there and do your job every single play. Don't make it bigger than what it is."

He also recounts memorable interactions with celebrities like Shaquille O’Neal and Kevin Hart during the Super Bowl festivities, illustrating the unique blend of sports and entertainment at such events.

Relationship with Teammates and Pat Mahomes

The conversation shifts to Trey's relationship with his quarterback, Patrick Mahomes. He praises Mahomes' exceptional skills and leadership:

Trey Smith [31:54]: "Pat's dope... He likely gifted me one of my most valuable possessions, like two Rolex watches."

Trey highlights how Mahomes supports the offensive line, both materially and through personal mentorship, fostering a strong team dynamic.

Music Preferences

Trey shares his diverse taste in music, influenced by his upbringing in Humboldt, Tennessee:

Trey Smith [23:12]: "We got a lot of influence from Memphis... Moneybagg Yo, Shy Glizzy, and J. Cole."

He discusses his appreciation for Kendrick Lamar’s "DAMN." album, noting:

Trey Smith [24:17]: "I loved it... the hard part six, that's like classic Kendrick."

Community Engagement: Girls Flag Football Camp

Trey is actively involved in community initiatives, notably organizing a flag football camp for girls in partnership with the Girl Scouts of America:

Trey Smith [49:49]: "We're putting on an event... to give them confidence and allow them to play the game."

This initiative aims to empower young girls through sports, providing them with opportunities to engage in football in a supportive environment.

Interactive Q&A Segment

In a lively Q&A segment, Rory and Mal test Trey’s knowledge of music and NFL trivia. Trey impressively answers questions about Three Six Mafia, Chiefs' history, and Kendrick Lamar’s Pulitzer Prize win, demonstrating his well-rounded interests beyond the football field.

Notable moments include:

• [45:19] Correctly identifying Three Six Mafia as the Memphis rap group that won a Pulitzer Prize.
• [47:35] Accurately naming Lynn Dawson as the first Chiefs quarterback to win a Super Bowl.

Reflections and Closing Thoughts

As the episode wraps up, Trey reflects on his journey and the importance of perseverance:

Trey Smith [19:09]: "All you need at the end of the day as a competitor is an opportunity... prove people wrong."

Rory and Mal express their appreciation for Trey’s insights and encourage listeners to support his initiatives, particularly the girls' flag football camp.

Notable Quotes:

• Trey Smith [04:10]: "The newbie electrocurrent sim machine does miracles and wonders."
• Trey Smith [12:56]: "Just go out there and do your job every single play. Don't make it bigger than what it is."
• Trey Smith [31:54]: "Pat's dope... He likely gifted me one of my most valuable possessions, like two Rolex watches."
• Trey Smith [19:09]: "All you need at the end of the day as a competitor is an opportunity... prove people wrong."

Conclusion

In this episode, Trey Smith offers a candid look into the life of a professional offensive lineman, balancing the demands of high-level sports with personal passions and community service. His journey from a late-round draft pick to a Super Bowl champion serves as an inspiration, emphasizing resilience, focus, and the importance of giving back.

Listeners are left with a deeper appreciation for the dedication required to excel in the NFL and the positive impact athletes can have beyond the field.

Listeners can subscribe to "New Rory & Mal" on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever they get their podcasts to catch more engaging episodes filled with unique perspectives and entertaining discussions.

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[Podcast Host]

The volume, no worry and.

[Rory]

Malt Rory we are back for another episode of Rory and Maul Don't Know Ball because we get to know a little bit about Ball. Just a little bit.

[Podcast Host]

We're a couple episodes in. I was confident before, but I'm not quite confident.

[Rory]

But the good thing is we've created this show where we have people that know a lot about ball.

[Podcast Host]

Yes.

[Rory]

And they sit with us, they talk with us, and sometimes they even laugh at us because we don't know ball. But. But today we are joined by one.

[Podcast Host]

Of the most technical positions. Like, this person knows.

[Rory]

No, no. I feel like I might be ready to, like, really go to the park after this and really, you know what I'm saying?

[Podcast Host]

Protect my qb, get your footwork down, understand certain gaps.

[Rory]

I feel like I'm ready for it.

[Podcast Host]

Passing, running schemes.

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So today we are joined by. With the 226th pick in the 2021 NFL Draft, the Kansas City Chiefs select Trey Smith. Trey Smith, welcome.

[Podcast Host]

From that pick to a pro bowler.

[Rory]

Listen, Trey, first of all, thank you for joining us. I do know that you were. You were hurt last year. You. You. You had an injury to your leg. First of all, how are you feeling? How's your recovery coming? How is your. Your, you know, your mental state and just everything that's going on that, you know, it takes with having an injury like that and bouncing back from it?

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, man, feeling great. Recovery's gone great. No problem. So far. It's been a really good off season and, you know, just keeping the main thing. The main thing, just going out there and balling, man, when I need to be.

[Podcast Host]

What type of recovery stuff have you been doing? Because, I mean, I listen, if I go down the steps wrong, it takes me about six weeks.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

What's the best way that you've been doing your recovery?

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, man, I work with a dude named Duke Mannyweather and he does a ton of stuff. Offensive line position. I play recovery in that aspect, man. There's a machine and puts you on called the newbie. It's electrocurrent sim machine. And that thing does miracles and wonders. A lot of moes, a lot of exercises. Just being consistent with it. As I get older, I'm telling you, it's getting harder and harder to get off the couch, but you know, man, you just got to do a lot of recovery, man. Get it right.

[Podcast Host]

Do you think my metro plus health insurance covers that neuro machine?

[Trey Smith]

No, no.

[Podcast Host]

I appreciate your honesty.

[Trey Smith]

I'm gonna try to get you a discount.

[Podcast Host]

You give me the homie price for that.

[Rory]

Trey said as he gets older, he's 25.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, but 25 in NFL years is.

[Rory]

Well, I guess you're playing offensive line. That takes a Toll on your body. But what have you been doing, like, as far as just, like, away from rehabbing with your time off? Like, have you tapped into any, like, you know, hobbies or things that you like to do away from the field? Just spending more time with the family. Like, what have you been doing just to keep your mental. Just kind of away from rehabbing in sports?

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, man, it's always important to get some good hobbies in. I've always been a big video gamer. So you streaming?

[Rory]

Are you streaming yet?

[Podcast Host]

What's your tag?

[Trey Smith]

Nah, nah. I don't know if I can stream my content, but you know what I'm saying, bro, I just chilling with the homies, man. Even kids I went to high school with a lot of my old college teammates. We all hop on the game and sometimes not about the game, just, you know, fellowship, bro. Like I said, I heard from my dog in a while. Just spending time with them. Vacation's huge. I took my first vacation in two years. I went to Turks and Caicos with a group of people.

[Rory]

No, Trey, Trey, Trey. Don't just gloss over Turks and Caicos like that.

[Podcast Host]

Said the Neuro machine. Yeah, yeah, he was at that dock bar.

[Rory]

Yeah, give us the Neuro machine. Great. We good? Glad to know you're getting back. Right. But tell us about Turks. What was Trey doing down there in Turks, man?

[Podcast Host]

Recovery.

[Trey Smith]

Hey, man, Trey was living large. Talking about. I've never seen water that. That clear.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, that's what it was.

[Trey Smith]

Kayaking. Okay.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Trey Smith]

Bro, I suck at jet skiing. It's my first time trying it out. I went for the Chiefs. I went slow. I was safe.

[Rory]

You know, the one thing that people don't know about jet skin is that that hurt like you hit a wave and they kind of slapping against the way that takes a toll on you.

[Podcast Host]

And you need goggles. That's what people don't tell you.

[Rory]

The salt. The salt water in your face burning you and all of that. People don't know. It's not as fun as. There are some. Some. Some ups and downs with. With jet skin people. A lot of people don't. Don't know that.

[Trey Smith]

Yup. So it was. It was smooth, man. The little yacht tour and everything. So it was. It was a good time, man. Really good time.

[Podcast Host]

The. The athletes, especially when they're, you know, injured and recovering, do you guys get nervous to take vacations because you feel like media or any. Anybody, period, is going to spot you and be like they're not focusing on the game?

[Trey Smith]

For me, I don't Worry about as much as the office of lineman. We. We live life in the shadows, bro.

[Podcast Host]

It's still the Chiefs, though. Still, it's still that organization. Even though it's, you know, middle America. They're going to pay attention to every fucking thing that goes on.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, no doubt. I think like the biggest thing as an athlete is just like finding that right time to take a vacation, you know what I mean? The offseason is so important. When you go to a Super bowl, you play so late into the year, you don't have as much time as other guys on other teams. So just figure out that happy, that happy medium spot where you can take it where it's appropriate.

[Rory]

Now it is May, and you are from Humboldt, Tennessee. Strawberry festival is here. Do you go back home? Do you ever go back home and go to Strawberry festival? Or is that something you like? Nah, I did that a lot growing up. I'm cool.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, I did that so much growing up. Like, nah, not anymore. I usually go back home probably for like a week or two just to visit with my pops. He's still down there, spend some time with family. But nah, man, I ain't been to the Strawberry festival in so many years.

[Rory]

But what do you do at the Strawberry festival? Like, we from New York. We ain't never been to a strawberry festival. If we were to go to Humboldt, Tennessee, what do we have to do at the Strawberry festival? Aside from eating strawberries, I was gonna say.

[Trey Smith]

That's probably the main one, bro. Just funnel cake strawberries. But like, you know, just a parade, getting ready for that, walking down the street. There are a lot of food vendors and stuff out there and it's a pretty big celebration. I know a lot of my classmates growing up would get out of school just to go to the Strawberry festival. So, like, it's a big deal in the area. People pride themselves with it. And like I said, it's country. Y' all from New York. Yeah. You're going to experience a little different down there. But I like it, you know, it's still cool. It's still cool.

[Rory]

Is your dad. Now you are a two time super bowl champion. You had a lot of success in the league. You said your dad is still in Humboldt. But is your dad, is he like walking around Humboldt a little differently now? Is he down there? Like, you got to call pops or your pops Humboldt? Yeah, like, Pops, you got to chill out. Like, you down there doing too much. Like, what is dad doing back in Humboldt right now now that his son is a two time super bowl champion.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, man. Dad's living the life fully retired. Does a little consulting on the side, you know what I mean? He always calls me. Just going to a restaurant, people just being nice to him. Getting a free meal here and there, you know? You know what I mean? Enjoying the fruits.

[Rory]

Yeah, he proud. He proud of you, but he also happy he ain't got to pay for the meals no more. His money's no good at Humboldt. His money's no good at Humboldt no more.

[Podcast Host]

Did he go out to both Silver Bowls?

[Trey Smith]

Say it again.

[Podcast Host]

Did he go out to both Super Bowls?

[Trey Smith]

Oh, yeah, he did. Yeah. That was the coolest part, man, is having your family down. You know, after you went.

[Podcast Host]

What's the parent experience like with the super bowl? Shit? Cause I feel like people don't know you have to buy those tickets, right?

[Trey Smith]

Hell yeah.

[Podcast Host]

That's crazy that the players parents can't even get tickets. So, like, did you put them in the nosebleeds? Were you nice. Like, did you budget out exactly what those tickets were gonna look like?

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, so I've been three times, and like, the first time it was like, hey, yo, it's just like close family. That's it, you know? Cause, I mean, I think the first time was in Arizona. I think tickets ranged anywhere from like 3500 to like 5500 a ticket. So the NFL gives you two complimentary. By the time all your homeboys, your friends, you know, outside family starts asking, boy, that can add up quick.

[Podcast Host]

Then the fuck.

[Trey Smith]

I took care of Pops, my sister Ashley, my only other sibling, eight years older than me, took care of her, put them in lower level seating so they had a really nice view of the game. So I did right by my family, you know what I mean?

[Podcast Host]

So what. What did the homeboy say when he was like, nah.

[Rory]

You can't go back home. You can't go back. You can't go back home, man.

[Trey Smith]

No, no, I'm straight in the city, man. They're cool with it, you know, I mean, they took it well. They understood because, you know, at the end of the day, hey, bro, can I get a ticket? Like, yeah, dude, can you give me like, 4, 500 for that? Then, you know, it gets a little quiet. So it's just a little reasonable thing, you know what I mean? They understood.

[Podcast Host]

What's that? Two weeks like with. With super bowl, like, the media week leading up to it? Is it a completely different experience based off playoffs and regular season, Draft day? Like, how different is that? Two weeks?

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, man, it's A. It's a complete circus. I think once you win the AFC championship game, you celebrate, and then like, I think it's literally like the next day you have to take a meeting about, okay, guys, this is how the super bowl is going to be laid out. From the first day we land there, what's our schedule going to look like? And you know, that whole week, the way we do it with the Chiefs is like, you know, the week before we get to the bowl site, we're actually just in a regular week of practice. But with that, you have to do media headshots, interviews, journalistic pieces and stuff. You know, you're having various media from across the country and sometimes the world already at your facility in Kansas. Then you get to the bowl site and that's a completely different level. I mean, first day, opening night, you're walking around, there's almost a thousand plus people out here trying to interview, get content whatsoever. And then, you know, a couple of days at the hotel, you're still getting interviewed, like right before your actual meetings, breaking down the game plan. So it's sort of a non stop thing. There's so much pageantry involved with it, but like, it's easy to sort of lose focus, like, damn, I got to go play football game in like five days. You know what I mean? So it's a lot. It's a lot to deal with.

[Rory]

What is the mindset of a young guy like yourself obviously grew up playing football and now you're at the biggest stage, you're at the super bowl. When you're alone, away from the media and the team, and you're in your hotel room. What is your mindset? Like, are you nervous? Are you throwing up? Are you like, you can't sleep? Anxiety? What is that mindset? And how do you center yourself and say, okay, this is the super bowl, but I have to go out there and do what I've done up until this point and just do everything the same. Is it the same approach? Do you do things differently? Like, how do you fight off just the obvious nerves that are around playing in the biggest game?

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, a couple things that like really helped is like, we already had guys who had been in the super bowl. And then for me personally, I had a dude that played opposite side of me. Joe Tunney had left guard. He had been in probably three Super Bowls before my first one. So, like, Joe was already laying out the game like, hey guys, like, when we get down there, just stay focused. At the end of the day, we gotta go perform on Sunday. You know, when you go out there and warm ups, I know you about to see Kevin Hart, Shaq, Snoop Doggs dapping people up on the sideline. But, like, don't lose sight. They're like, you gotta go play a game. And I'll be lying to say that the first time I went out there, I wasn't nervous. You know, if you were a fan of football as a kid, every little kid dreams of playing the Super Bowl. It's the biggest event in America, the biggest sports event. So, like, for me personally, the way I tried to conceptualize and rationalize it was like, you're about to go do something that you've been doing since fifth grade. You're just playing football, dog. Forget the cameras. Forget all the stuff that comes with it. People hitting you up. Just go out there and do your job every single play. Don't make it bigger than what it is. Just go do what you do great at. You know what I mean? So for me, it was always trying to not make the moment too big, but just stay riding the present every single time. That made it easy for me instead of looking too far ahead.

[Podcast Host]

But was there one celebrity that got you off that mind state, though, when you walked out, like, nah, hold on one second.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, I think it was Shaq. It was the first time, bro. Like, in Arizona, I was like, damn, that's Shaq. And then I think Kevin Hart day panned in, who's a Eagles fan. So I was like, damn, everybody is here right now. So that. That took me away, but I snapped back out of it, bro.

[Rory]

Has anybody like Shaq?

[Podcast Host]

And then seeing Kevin Hart in the same vid you have, that's why. That's why your offensive lineman, you have great vision. You can see both of them.

[Rory]

Have you. Have you been in touch with any of the guys since your rehab? Have you spoken since to Pat since you been rehabbing?

[Trey Smith]

Not too much. You know, he's been training out there. I know he always has a group of guys generally like receivers, and they put in really good work in off season. For me, I usually almost like, get away from everything and everybody for the most part. I like to just decompress and get back to work, man, and just really have a nice little focus going with.

[Podcast Host]

Somebody like Pat Mahomes, which is a very unpredictable quarterback. And what he's going to do in and out of the pocket did. Is that the toughest offensive line position being with the Kansas City Chiefs because you have such a shifty quarterback you got to protect.

[Rory]

No, no, no, no. That's not why you got to protect a billion dollars. Let's just be real here. You got to protect a billion dollars.

[Podcast Host]

Back then, like Tom Brady, of course, Goat, but he's a pocket passer. Everyone that's on that line knows what the scheme is and where Brady is going to be at all times. Pat Mahomes is going to freestyle if it gets to a certain point. Is. Is that tough as an offensive lineman having a one of one quarterback that you have to protect?

[Trey Smith]

Like Mal just said, man, that's a billion dollars behind me, man. He keeps me up at night, man. Starting to sleep, man.

[Rory]

Better not let nobody touch him. Better not let nobody touch him, man.

[Trey Smith]

So I think for me, when I first got to the Chiefs, it was a little bit difficult. I played at Tennessee, so for me, the ball would be out by a certain time period, right? But when I got to the Chiefs, my O line coach used to always get on me, saying, you know, don't let an egg timer go off in your head. You got a block the entire time until you hear the whistle. Because Pats is that elusive, man. He's going to extend plays, he's going to do some magician stuff, you know what I mean? He's going to make something out of nothing. That's just how he operates. And I wouldn't say it's hard to block for him because he makes it so easy. I mean, the way he's making calls, he's directing us, he's really in tune with the game plan. He has a great feel. And talk about like a field general. He's a field general, you know, getting the skill guys right. All right, lion, what do I see? I see the safety rotation coming down. All right, we're going here. No, no, no. It's dressed up. We're going to go here. But he's on point with everything. So if Pat really does make it easy, just as an offensive lineman, you just have to learn that, like, man, when I got 15 behind me, I got a straight, you know. Cause there's no telling what's going to happen because he's going to make something out of nothing. He always does.

[Rory]

What was the play where. Or was there a play where you kind of like missed a block and Pat kind of made up for it though, and you was like, damn, like, if I didn't have a quarterback that was that good, like, that would have looked bad on me.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, I got plenty of those. I ain't gonna lie to you, man. Nah, I just think, man, I can't really, like, pinpoint one. But I just think, like, honestly, the stuff that you guys don't even see in practice is what will blow your mind the most, man. Like, just nonchalant around the back, under the leg. Like, just crazy stuff that he does that's just like, when you rewind it, you're like, yeah, he really did just throw that perfectly. Like, how did he do that? I think that's a cool thing about Pat, man. He can do some things that, like, before I got to the Chiefs, I didn't know were humanly possible.

[Podcast Host]

All of us not even on the field when we saw Pat Mahomes. This is a shortstop. What the fuck are we? Was there also, like, a play that, you know, maybe blindside, you have your back blocking and you felt like that shit lasted five fucking minutes. Pause and you're like, yo, he really still has this play going. Do you have one specific in mind? Because there's been Pat Mahone shit that they've clocked where that. That play has lasted 35 seconds while he was back there.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, there's a ton of those. I was thinking probably the most recent one, I think we played. I think it was in Cleveland. We played the Browns, and he just extended the play. I think got a touchdown. There's a play, maybe my second year against the Bengals in the playoffs, I'll tell you right now, I was blocking my ass off, and I was just like, ain't no way. The ball ain't hot yet, bro. But once again, he finds a way. Another touchdown. Like, it's just. It never ceases to amaze me how he can always extend it and then make something happen, you know, it's just not normal, man.

[Rory]

Now, we just watched the NFL draft, and obviously, you know, the big news was Shador dropping in the draft, which kind of caught everybody by surprise. You yourself, you were drafted in the sixth round and have had, you know, amazing success. Two time super bowl champion, Pro Bowler, started every game. You know, you've had your success, even though you went in the later rounds. What was it like watching Shador in the draft and, like. And reading everything that everybody was saying and like, oh, he's dropping. Like, what was your mindset watching Shador go through that?

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, man, it. You don't want to see any player go through that. That's the first. First thing, you know, I mean, everyone. I'll speak for myself. I had expectations. I wanted to go second, first round, you know, high round draft pick. That's what. That was my dream, my goal, right? I Had a medical situation, I had blood clots in both sides of my lungs. So like for me was different.

[Rory]

Right.

[Trey Smith]

But watching him, I noticed some things are sort of similar from what I experienced. Like, obviously I'm not sure there's Sanders, bro. I'm not going to have a whole camera set up an ESPN stream in my house 24 7. But like, you know what I mean, just the facial expressions, a little bit of disappointment. But you can tell he has a strong spirit, man. He wasn't letting that get to him. He wasn't letting it get him down. But it's definitely something that I don't want to see. I hated to see it. I never like when a player falls in the draft. We're talking about a pivotal point in people's careers and lives. Lives and something they can remember forever. So it was tough to watch. But ultimately, you know, all you need at the end of the day as a competitor is an opportunity, you know, now he's got an opportunity to just make something out of it, you know, I mean, prove people wrong. For me, I always carry the chip on my shoulder that all the teams and people that passed on me, you know, I asked them to prove every time I step on that field, you know, I'm worth it, I'm worth the pick. You guys made mistakes. So for him, let him use that as fuel to his fire and just keep striving, man.

[Podcast Host]

When you, when you go into your first camp as a rookie, does the draft pick have any type of stain or energy on that first day? Like, are some of the veterans or even some of the players that have been there for two, three, four years, did they know everyone's draft pick and treat people a certain way?

[Trey Smith]

I think, like if you're a high round guy, like if you're a top 15 dude or a first rounder, everyone's all right, he's our first round guy. Even second round guys, they're really good. But I would say, man, it's not necessarily like a treatment. Like we'll just mess with you a little bit off first round, you know, what was that Signing bonus? You know what I mean? But other than that, it's even playing field. When you step on that field and you're competing, you're just showing the coaches what you have, you know, they already sort of know your potentials and abilities, but now it's an even playing field. I don't care if you're a first round pick, future hall of Famer, you know, whatever you are, six round, undrafted, lowly Guy, like, at the end of the day, we all got to put our hands in that dirt and go prove something. We all got to go earn something every single day. I don't care where you got drafted. Prove to me you're good enough.

[Rory]

Right?

[Podcast Host]

What was some of the worst rookie hazing that you had at your first camp?

[Trey Smith]

Man, we. We had it really good at the Chiefs. Coach Reed, man. Coach Reed's the best coach ever, man. Hall of famer.

[Rory]

He ain't playing. He don't look like he playing none of that. He ain't with none of that.

[Trey Smith]

He ain't going at all. Coach Reed's not with that. He made that very clear. I came in with Creed Humphrey, so he was a second round draft pick. I was a six round draft pick. But we were the only 2o line draft picks that year. And for us, we didn't experience any hazing whatsoever. We did have a fine board system. That was terrible.

[Rory]

What's the fine board?

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, so it all depends, man. It could be simple things like, okay, I had a bad play. Damn, he got me. Right hand clap. That's $50, hang dog. Have my head down. I'm open after a game or something. That could be another $50. You give us a question from the coach, idiot.

[Bom Han]

Fine.

[Trey Smith]

Like, it could be anything, bro.

[Rory]

I like that.

[Trey Smith]

I like that. Anything, bro. So at the end of the day, I think, like, Creed and I, we did our averages maybe like a year or two ago. I think we were paying like 580 like a week just in fines, man. So they figured a way to get it out of us. But it was all good fun because everyone had to do. Wasn't just rookies.

[Podcast Host]

Are you able to file that with the irs, like, as an expense?

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, we ended up spending at the end of your o line trip. So it was all good. It all worked out, man.

[Rory]

Now, you're from Humboldt, Tennessee, so I'm guessing. I've never been, but I'm guessing country music is the most popular genre in Humboldt. But what was the rap scene like? What was the hip hop scene like growing up in Humboldt? Like, what are some of the artists that you and your friends would listen to in high school or just in the neighborhood? Like, what was some of the music that y' all were playing?

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, so, like, I gotta preface it by saying, like, my mom, Dorsetta Sim, she raised me, and she was like, whatever music, find an appreciation for all of it. You know, it was never like, I'm not gonna listen this or that. Like, I'm all over the place. With my musical ear, I would say, like, because of Humboldt's close proximity, it's in west Tennessee, maybe like 45, 50 minutes from Memphis. We got a lot of influence from Memphis. So, like, obviously Moneybagg, yo who shiesty big 30 young. Dolph was huge. I love Dolph, man. C Glock, man. Project Pat, you want to take it even back further? Anything from the dirty south, that's sort of what we were listening to. But as I got older, you know, Drake was a big listened to in my car, especially when I got my first truck in high school. Isaiah, Rashad, J. Cole. I was really a big fan of tde. And obviously you can't. You can't leave out future at Thugger, man.

[Rory]

Right?

[Trey Smith]

Those two guys, those two cats. That's why I listen to all the time.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, now you brought that up. And I'd even seen in our notes that Josh sent that you're a big Kendrick fan. And I was a little worried about this interview because we do have OVO mall here. What's. What's your opinion on the GNX album?

[Trey Smith]

I loved it, man. I love that there are some parts of it. There's some bops on there. Like, that's not really meant for me. I'm not really gonna be super west coast with some of the things, but for me, like, the hard part six, that's like classic Kendrick. For me. Love that. I really love reincarnated. And that sort of speaks to, like, Kendrick as an artist. For me, just how deep he thinks and just sort of the connections he makes with some of his songs. But yeah, man, I really enjoyed the album. What I say is his best work. I wouldn't say that, but, like, I really enjoyed it. For me, like, as a Kendrick fan, I've been eating good for the past 12 months, bro. Like, can't get enough. What I've been seeing, bro, drop at the drop. So it's been great.

[Bom Han]

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[Podcast Host]

Yo, Kipa fans. It's your boy Bom Han and I'm bringing you something epic. Introducing the K Factor podcast that takes you straight into the heart of K Pop. We're talking music reviews, exclusive interviews and deep dives into the industry like never before. From producers and choreographers to idols and trainees, we're bringing you the real stories behind the music that you love. And yeah, we're keeping it 100, discussing everything from comebacks and concepts to the mental health side of the business. Because K Pop isn't just a genre, it's a whole world and we're exploring every corner of it. And here's the best part. Fans get to call in, drop opinions, and even join us live at events. You never know where we might pop up next. So listen to the K factor on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This isn't just a podcast. It's a movement.

[Trey Smith]

Are you ready?

[Podcast Host]

Let's go. Let's.

[Trey Smith]

That's the fun part about being an artist that you need to have the patience for finding your hand.

[Lagata]

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[Trey Smith]

That's the game. Like who stays and who leaves, you.

[Lagata]

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[TS Madison]

This is your girl, T.S. madison, and I'm coming to you loud live and in color from the Outlaws podcast. Let me tell you something. I broke the Internet with a 22 inch weed. 22 inches. My superpower. I've got the voice. My kryptonite don't exist. Get a job. My podcast. The one they never saw coming. Each week I sit down with the culture creators and scroll. Stoppers Tina Knowles, Lil Nas X. Will we ever see a dating show? For the love of Lil Nas X.

[Rory]

Let'S do a show with all my exes. X marks the spot.

[TS Madison]

No, Here it is. My next X.

[Trey Smith]

That's actually cute, though.

[TS Madison]

Laverne Cox. I have a core group of girlfriends.

[Trey Smith]

That, like, they taught me how to love.

[TS Madison]

And Chapel Rome.

[Trey Smith]

I was dropped in 2020.

[Podcast Host]

Working the drive thru, and here we.

[TS Madison]

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[Rory]

I think that that's been kind of like the consensus through. Through it all, though, everybody was just happy that that moment gave us music from two artists that we supported and we love. Like, I think everybody feels like, yo, listen, it's. It's a battle. And these guys may not like each other, but us fans, we're getting great music out of it. And I think that was the. The consensus. I mean, me and Rory talked about that. Like, we get it. It kind of divided, you know, people and pick a side this, that, and the third. But overall, we got great music out of it.

[Trey Smith]

100%, man.

[Podcast Host]

Growing up, like, just around country music period, with the Cowboy Carter tour starting now, and, you know, Beyonce's album, we saw with the award shows where she was not getting the credit that was just due and felt like she was kind of an outsider to country music. Do you feel that way? Because, I mean, I'm. I don't listen to country like that. I just like the Cowboy Carter album. Do you feel like she just did something just to do it? Was that really part of the country theme that you feel like?

[Trey Smith]

I think Beyonce and her team are elite. I think some of the best at what they do by far. And I think if Beyonce wanted to transition the country, I think she can do anything. Personally, I'm a big. I'm not gonna say, like, I'm a huge Beyonce fan beyhive or anything like that, but, like, I love what she does. You know, she makes great music. I just feel like country music can be semi selective with who they let in. You know what I mean? That could be an issue a lot of times or, like, you aren't traditionally a country music person, so, like, why are we gonna, quote, unquote, like, respect you? But at the end of the day, she made a Damn good album. You know, she needs to be recognized and deserves to be recognized.

[Rory]

And she's from Texas.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah. Come on. It's like, you know what I'm saying? So this gotta be more open minded, bro. It's a beautiful album.

[Rory]

So, Trey. So, so, so Trey, I like. He. He. He's like, yeah, nah, Beyonce's dope. But you more of a Chris Stapleton guy here. I hear you're more of a. In the Chris Stapleton now. Do you pull up to the practice facility banging Chris Stapleton?

[Trey Smith]

No, sir. Never. Not now. Maybe if I'm like, pulling off and it's like a chill day. I just finished work and I'm out a little bit in the country a little bit, and I just want to chill out. That's more so when I go back home to Tennessee and get back out in the country, but it's not like my daily driver, but Chris Stapleton. To me, whenever I heard Tennessee Whiskey for the first time, I was like, who is this dude singing Classic song, man.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Trey Smith]

Now I started diving into more of his music. I'm like, man, this guy's awesome. Yeah, he's great.

[Rory]

No, Chris Stapleton is. He's dope. I love Chris Stapleton.

[Podcast Host]

How do you feel about, like, the Jelly Rolls, Shaboozy, the newer scene that's going on now?

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, I like it too. I think Jelly Roll's dope more so than just his music. I think he's a dope human being for sure. He's listening to the podcast and learning more about his story, who he is as a person. That's really cool. And then Shaboozi hopping onto the scene and just dominating right now, like, how he. How he has been. And I think it's really cool to see him having as much success that he's having right now. So I like both of them. I often take it back to, like, old school, like Johnny Cash, Waylon Jennings, you know, Merle Haggard. Like, I mean, real country stuff, bro.

[Rory]

Now as part of the O line, y' all do a great job at protecting a billion dollars. We're gonna call him the Billion Dollar Man. Um, has he ever. What has he done for his offensive line? Like, how has he taken care of the guys that has. Has taken care of him? How is Pat Mahomes taking care of his O line?

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, Pat's dope, man. There's not. There's probably not enough good things I can say about Pat. One thing I can say, he probably gifted me one of my most valuable possessions, like, two Rolex watches. He got us a golf cart, club cart, fully tricked out, own all new golf clubs, Oakley sunglasses. Like, the list goes on and on. In terms of, like, how he shows love, you know what I mean? For me, as a big dude, like, if you take me out to dinner and we're going to a five star dinner, we have a stage. That's good enough.

[Podcast Host]

B, I love quarterback takes his O line out for dinner. I know he's tricking out golf course and putting rims, man.

[Rory]

He said, my life last night, man.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, yeah, man.

[Podcast Host]

My head knocked on.

[Trey Smith]

That's amazing though, man. He always, like, he makes it a big point of emphasis to show love every single time. So it's. It's dope being able to work with him.

[Podcast Host]

Now I have to ask about another superstar that is on the team. Do you guys consider Travis a part of the O line sometimes or is he just a glorified receiver? He doesn't block that much.

[Trey Smith]

He definitely earned his rank, man. Travis gets in them trenches and puts his hand down and gets to work, you know? That's my guy, man.

[Rory]

Now, we heard at Kelsey Jam you won the wing eating contest.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah.

[Rory]

How many. How many. How many wings did you eat, Trey?

[Trey Smith]

All right, so, like, I love. I love hot wings, bro. That's like my weakness in terms of, like, cheap food, whatever.

[Rory]

So that was. So that was like. That was heaven for you.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, it was easy.

[Rory]

Yeah. It was a compliment. Thank you.

[Trey Smith]

Appreciate it. So pretty much, man. The dude I was going against, I could tell he was struggling early on, so I didn't want to hold in. So I think I only did like eight. Eight. He did like, three, so. Oh, I could have done way more damage, I think in my. The most wings I've probably ever eaten in one sitting. I'm embarrassed to say. It is 50. Yeah, I put down 50 of them things in one sitting.

[Rory]

Jesus. How.

[Podcast Host]

How much time?

[Trey Smith]

Probably 40 minutes. Methodical.

[Rory]

Methodical. I like it. Very methodical.

[Podcast Host]

That's. That's 100 men versus one young gorilla.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Rory]

One man versus 50 wings. 40 minutes. All of those wings demolished.

[Podcast Host]

We. One of our co hosts, Damaris, we had a challenge for, what was it? 50 mozzarella sticks in one hour.

[Rory]

Yeah. She told us she could eat 50 mozzarella sticks. We knew there was no way she.

[Podcast Host]

She made it to, like, what, 15, if that.

[Rory]

I don't even think she made 15.

[Podcast Host]

All right, so I feel like wings and fried cheese is a whole different monster. You think you could do 50 mozzarella sticks? In one hour.

[Trey Smith]

Well, I'm lactose intolerant, so for all of our sakes, hopefully I will.

[Rory]

50 mozzarella sticks. The fucking toilet.

[Podcast Host]

We have a toilet here. And for the love of the game, in theory. Do you think you could do that?

[Trey Smith]

I don't know if I'd even want to eat 50 mozzarella sticks.

[Rory]

Yeah. 50 mozzarella sticks.

[Trey Smith]

50 is nuts.

[Rory]

Crazy. All right, who is the. Who is the toughest defender that you lined up across and was like, damn, this guy's good?

[Trey Smith]

Yeah. Aaron Donald.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Podcast Host]

Checks out Aaron Donald.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, that dude. There's a reason he's going to be your first ballot in my eyes. In my opinion. Just, he's completely different. The cat, the way he plays the game, mental approach, and just going up against him, like, you know, there's some guys you're able to just get your hands on, shut them down, it's over with. And there's some dudes that's just all right, he was different. Like, that guy was different. So much respect to him. You know what I mean?

[Rory]

We had Terrell Suggs on for the last episode, and, you know, obviously he was one of the guys that, if you hear any coach talk about, Coach Belichick just spoke about him on his podcast a couple weeks ago and said, you know, any guy that I had to double team every play is the first ballot hall of Famer in my book. Now, obviously, Terrell Suggs wasn't inducted into the hall on his first ballot, which I think is a crime, but did you watch Terrell Suggs growing up? Was he one of the guys that you looked at?

[Trey Smith]

A little bit. I feel like I was more so like a Ray Lewis guy.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Trey Smith]

I love watching Ray. Bonnie obviously was there, too, But Suggs was definitely a name. You heard. There's a dude named. We all know Patrick Willis, you know, played for the 49ers. So Patrick's from Bruceton, Tennessee. He's only like 30 minutes to Ron, France. So I remember just hearing stories about him, you know, even at Ole Miss. And then what he was doing, obviously, in the league. For me, I was trying to look for guys close to my area that I can sort of compare myself to when I still thought I was going to be skinny and lean and not fat. So. You know what I mean?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. I mean, of course, in high school, everyone, like, for the most part, plays both ways, especially if you're good. Was O line always your dream? That that's what you wanted to do, or was there another position?

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, I always Thought I would be a defensive lineman. I was always sort of like the big kid. So when it came down to it, I remember I went to a football camp at Alabama, and I think I had started the first day off at D line, and the coach is like, oh, come here, son. He's like, you don't go straight to the O line, man. You're not fast enough. So that's when I realized that, man, at early age, you know, my feelings were hurt a little bit. I thought I was going to be getting sacks and tackles for losses in the league, but, you know, O line's not so bad, the pace good. So it's great. I like it. I would never switch up.

[Podcast Host]

Now, being in Tennessee, was Michael or a big influence or.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, I would say the blind side. When that movie dropped, everyone was sort of, you know, in terms of football like that, as an offensive lineman, you're like, okay, I'm gonna try to drive my guy into the coolers. You know, I'm trying to be like Michael Orr. So that was pretty cool. I mean, he played at Briarcrest. We played Briarcrest USA a couple times.

[Podcast Host]

So was that movie accurate? No, just want to see it. Felt like a white exec put that movie together.

[Trey Smith]

As years have gone by, the more I'm like, nah. Oh, it's the movie. So, like, that's. That's the biggest indictment itself. Like, he's telling you, you guys aren't representing me well. So to me, that's all you need to hear.

[Rory]

Who's one of. Who's one of the most underrated defenders that you've played against? You've lined up across, in your opinion, that people may not really talk about enough for you?

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, I would say Malik Collins. He was a D tackle with the Texans for a long time, just with the 49ers last season. I think he's extremely underrated. I was going to say Puna Ford. He was with the Chargers last season. Tershawn Warden, who plays on the Chiefs, in terms of a three Tech and interior defensive lineman for his size, amount of power and speed he has, you know, he can be very disruptive. Now, he got rewarded extremely well this season. Shout out to Turk, man, getting that big contract. But I would say Tershawn, to me, is probably my number one most underrated guy in terms of what he brings to the table and in terms of the recognition that he gets.

[Podcast Host]

All right, man. It's just because we're in the podcast world, we do have to ask certain questions that we're uncomfortable even asking, but I know. I'm sure. You signed to NDA. Did the entire energy change once Taylor Swift entered the organization?

[Rory]

The organization.

[Podcast Host]

Once she.

[Rory]

Once she purchased the Chiefs, Once y' all drafted Taylor Swift, did things change in the locker room?

[Trey Smith]

Not at all, man. Like, it. Honestly, it just was super normal, you know, being able to meet her early on and just talking to her. I think once you meet her as a human being, a person, like, face to face and sort of understand it, you realize, like, man, she really is a beautiful human being. She's awesome. She's super nice. She's thoughtful. She's kind. When she remembered my name, my sister's name, after meeting us, like, months later, like, that meant a lot. Just a small thing. And then for me, unknowingly, I didn't know how big of a deal Taylor Swift was. You know what I mean, how much of a star she is until, like, she got there and I started realizing, like, I started watching people move around. I'm like, okay, this is different.

[Rory]

You know?

[Trey Smith]

I mean, But I think the biggest thing with Taylor is, like, how. How nice of a person she is.

[Podcast Host]

So, Trey, did you have to go to a formal class to memorize that answer? Blink twice.

[Trey Smith]

No, man.

[Podcast Host]

Did Secret Service prepare you for that answer? I'm sure she's a very nice human being. She seems that way, but I can already see that being, like, all right, we have to watch game film, and then we have to go to our Taylor course.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, no, I promise, man, it was no big deal. Like, I mean, dude, she really is dope. Like, she's awesome.

[Rory]

Who controls the music in the locker room? Who's the one that has the best taste in music on the team?

[Podcast Host]

And has Travis ever played 1989 on the auxiliary chord in the locker room?

[Trey Smith]

I'll say he hasn't done that. But I will say, man, it's sort of like a battle, because it's really between the D line, O line, and sometimes the dbs. I'll say the D line, they play good music, you know, trying to get you hyped up before practice. And people, you know, you don't feel like going out there, they do a really good job. O line. We sort of mix it up. We could be chill vibes. We could be turning you up. It just depends, you know, on the day how everyone's feeling in the section. But I always say, probably, you know, there are a couple dudes on the team that. That sort of get us, right? Juwan Taylor always gets the music Right for us in O line.

[Rory]

Has anybody ever. Now you a big. You're a big guy, Trey. Has anybody ever approached you because you didn't cover their. Their ticket on FanDuel?

[Trey Smith]

Never, never, never. Face to face. Never face to face.

[Rory]

Only online. Only online.

[Podcast Host]

What's some wild DMs you've gotten or crazy tweets or whatever that have to do with. With betting?

[Trey Smith]

Yeah. So I think I had, like, probably, like, a holding penalty either in the playoffs last year or maybe it was this year. I don't remember what it was, but, man, they lit me up, bro. El's went crazy for a night. The thing is, like, I only get mad if it's, like, not funny, but you send me a funny one. Like, hey, fat ass. Like, you know that's funny.

[Rory]

I'm like, okay, I'll laugh at that one.

[Trey Smith]

Show my girl, you know, so. But it gets pretty bad, man. I feel like almost the league, maybe some parties involved, got to do something to protect the players a little bit, because it is for some dudes who make really bad errors and mistakes, like, it can't be egregious when they get sent, man. It's not cool at all.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

What's the relationship that the O line has with referees? Because obviously, we know, like, quarterbacks are the first people to typically speak to the referee we see in the NBA, it's always the number one player that could speak to a ref, with holding probably being the highest clip of a penalty. Do you ever even go near a ref or try to make some type of relationship with them to feel out, like, what's allowed and what's not allowed?

[Trey Smith]

Yeah. It's funny you say that. My rookie year, we played the Cowboys in Arrowhead, and, man, I got, like, three holding calls in the game, right? So on my second out of three, Mike Parsons at the inside move. The way he hit me just put me in an awful position. So I tried to, like, cover him up and just, like, run him off. And so basically, I did the best I could. I didn't think it was a hold, but I get my third penalty. So now I'm pissed. I'm a rookie. Everyone's looking at me like, damn, bro. It's the third one. Like, tighten up. So I'm over here cussing Matt. I'm cussing Matt, and I look at the ref referee, and I said some not so nice choice words to him.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Trey Smith]

And, man, he threw that fourth one. Coach yanks me out, boy. I said, oh, man. I said, it's over.

[Podcast Host]

With I'm gonna get fired.

[Trey Smith]

But man, it's funny because I was worried the entire time because you verbally harass a referee in NFL's automatic thirty thousand dollar fine. God damn now, six round draft pick, didn't get a lot of bread. That's a big chunk, you know, that's a big chunk that year. So I was nervous, you know, God willing, I didn't get fined. It's funny enough, like probably a year later, that same referee, I ended up seeing him prior to the game and I just, you know, I just told him, hey, man, you know, I want to apologize for what happened in that game last year. That was a really poor reflection of who I am as a person. Like that was out of pocket of me, you know, I let my emotions get the best of me, blah, blah. And after that, we were good. You know what I mean? Like, hey, you know, you can't do this. Or we're watching this, you know, pretty much just, hey, this is what we need you to do. Don't do that, you know what I mean? Or just give it a little break. But I would say that the playing field is very fair in the NFL for the most part. Referees definitely are tentative. They listen, they watch, they do a good job. But, you know, like that one time when I got out of it, I had to go apologize, man.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Trey Smith]

You don't want those problems, right? You do not want those problems.

[Podcast Host]

What's, what's the wildest thing you've ever heard in a pileup? Like whether a fourth and one or just, just any. Anytime a run gets stopped and it's just a big ass pile, everyone's on top of each other. What do y' all be yelling at each other?

[Rory]

What y' all be saying to each other when it's like 4th and 1 and package, does a quarterback sneaky? Y' all all on the ground, like, what do y' all be saying down.

[Podcast Host]

There for like 10, 15 seconds? I know some conversation is happening.

[Trey Smith]

Gotta keep the trench talk confidential, man.

[Rory]

I respect, I respect that, Trey. I respect.

[Podcast Host]

It's probably as wild as online gaming.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, I can't, I can't violate, but man, it sounds, you know, it's just grinding, but there's some foul stuff happens in the piles. You don't want to be in a mass pile, bro.

[Podcast Host]

Just know I can imagine. I think any given Sunday was telling the truth.

[Rory]

100%. 100%. All right, Trey. Well, we have some questions for you. They say we don't know ball, so we. You have some Questions for us, too, about ball. But we have some questions for you about music. So we're going to see how much music Trey Smith does or doesn't know, and then you'll see exactly how much ball me and Rory absolutely do not know.

[Trey Smith]

Get it?

[Podcast Host]

Which Memphis rap group helped pioneer the crunk sound and won an Oscar for Best Original song? Is it Aug? K, A, B, Outkast three. I'm sorry. C, three Six Mafia. D, Goody Mob.

[Trey Smith]

Three Six Mafia.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. That was the easiest one ever. We better have some easy ones now.

[Rory]

Yeah, Trey, you better have some easy ones for us, man. Give us. Give us an easy one, man.

[Trey Smith]

See what I can do. All right. What office of Guard and Chiefs franchise history has been to the most Pro Bowls? A, Will Shields, B, Brian Waters. C, Marvin Terrell. Or D, Jeff Allen?

[Podcast Host]

Can I get a lifeline?

[Rory]

Can I phone a friend?

[Podcast Host]

Can I phone you?

[Rory]

I'm gonna say, is it C, Marvin Terrell?

[Trey Smith]

Nope. Rory?

[Podcast Host]

I'm just guessing. My tutor when I was in elementary school, when I was in special class, told me usually the answer is B on A Scantron. So I'm gonna go with B.

[Trey Smith]

Think that was Will Shields, right?

[Podcast Host]

I don't know. I'm just going with B.

[Trey Smith]

Hey, it works.

[Podcast Host]

Let's go. Space Campos.

[Trey Smith]

Man. We'll take it. Damn.

[Rory]

All right. My bad, Will.

[Trey Smith]

Shout out, Will.

[Podcast Host]

What label is Young Dolph the founder of? These are the easiest questions. A, Heavy Camp. B, no Limit South. C, Paper Route, Empire. D, Cashville Records.

[Trey Smith]

The Paper route, baby.

[Rory]

People around Empire.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. We're gonna have to.

[Rory]

All right, we gotta get this one, man. We. We down two. We down two old right now, man. We gotta get this one. Well, no, you won. You got the. You got the. You got that one.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Yes.

[Podcast Host]

That's what happens when you go to slow classes.

[Rory]

Exactly.

[Podcast Host]

They give you the cheat codes. B on the Scantron.

[Trey Smith]

Come on. All right, here we go. Second question. Who was the first quarterback in Chief's history to win a Super Bowl? A, Lynn Dawson, B, Joe Montana. C, Elvis Garback. And then D, Alex Smith. I'm gonna give you a hint. You gotta go way back in time, so get to those older sounding names.

[Podcast Host]

Cause Joe Montana only had, what, two years with the Chiefs after the Niners?

[Trey Smith]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Did he get a ring, though?

[Rory]

That's what I'm trying to think. Did Joe get a ring? Did he get the Chiefs a ring?

[Trey Smith]

I can narrow it down to two if y' all want me to.

[Rory]

Yes, please do.

[Trey Smith]

All right, all right. It's either Lynn Dawson or Elvis Garback?

[Rory]

Lynn Dawson.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, I'm going Lynn.

[Trey Smith]

Boom. Correct. Lynn Dawson. Lane the cool man.

[Podcast Host]

Because I don't even know the Elvis guy.

[Rory]

Lynn Dawson. I was gonna go Joe Montana first, but then Lynn Dawson second.

[Podcast Host]

So you can take this one. This. This is your guy.

[Rory]

All right, which song earned which. No, I'm just joking. Which song earned Kendrick Lamar Pulitzer Prize for music? The first time it was awarded to a hip hop artist? A, humble. B, DNA. C. All right. Or D, loyalty?

[Trey Smith]

C. All right. Tip of butterfly. Let's go.

[Rory]

No, that is wrong with the confidence. It's actually humble.

[Trey Smith]

Hey, whoa. For real?

[Rory]

Humble. Humble. Earned Kendrick a Pulitzer Prize for music. The first time it was awarded to a hip hop artist.

[Trey Smith]

Wow.

[Rory]

Yeah, I'm off there.

[Podcast Host]

Let's try to tie it up.

[Rory]

All right. You got one more for us? You got one last one?

[Trey Smith]

Yup. All right, so I went to University of Tennessee. I think we have the best fight song in college football. So is it A, War Eagle, B, Rammer Jammer, C, Rocky Top, or D, Rambling Wreck. See, this says. See, you're on the point. Rocky Top. That's our fight song, baby.

[Podcast Host]

Let's go.

[Rory]

We know.

[Bom Han]

Come on.

[Podcast Host]

Since those were easy, I have a bonus question. Which Memphis rapper started out as a pimp and then took a couple of his hoes and invested that money into somebody that he went to school with, that worked at the church that had a keyboard, and then he met a white guy that had an mpc?

[Rory]

Yep.

[Podcast Host]

And together they created three amazing records. And then he had a chance to meet Ludacris at a bar, but instead, he knocked Ludacris out in a bathroom.

[Rory]

And went to jail in a bathroom.

[Podcast Host]

What was the name of that Memphis rapper?

[Trey Smith]

You know what's crazy? I don't even know his name, but I know it's Terrence Howard, but damn, I forgot his name.

[Rory]

Let's go, Trey. Let's fucking go, man.

[Podcast Host]

Let's fucking go, Trey. Can you tell us more about Girls get in the Game and all girls flag football camp that you're putting on together?

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, man. We're partnering with Girl Scouts of America in my hometown, just putting on an event. You know, we did a football camp for boys last year, and, you know, we just want to do something special for the girls in the community to give them confidence, allow them to play the game as well, to have a good time and a good experience. So anybody out here who's listening, you have a young daughter that wants to come out, play the flag Football. You know, we have a camp coming up in Jackson, Tennessee. We'd love to have you guys down there.

[Rory]

How many. How many. How many years have you been doing it?

[Trey Smith]

This is my second year. Last year was my first football camp ever.

[Rory]

How was that, like, for, like, a young player, like, having a football camp and especially, like, you getting girls into flag football. Like, how is that. How is that experience teaching girls football?

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, it's dope, man. You know, girls have an interest in playing football. Even with my football camp that generally a lot of boys went to, we had some girls that want to participate, too, and we're not going to turn them away either. You know, I don't feel like you should discriminate based on that. Like, let them go out there, have fun. They're all kids. Like, let them have a great time. Let them learn the game. They want to get close to it. They want to learn and, you know, allow them an opportunity. I used to play flag football in, like, fourth grade. I had girls in my team, so, you know, I allowed them opportunity.

[Podcast Host]

Did you ever have field day at any of your school? Yeah, so field day, we had flag football and the girls, shit, they'd separated, but the thing we would wait for was when the girls did that, because that was the most intense flag football you have ever seen in your entire life.

[Rory]

Yeah, it's always fun watching, like, girls play football. You didn't know that they were athletic. And then you see how fast the cute girl in school is. You're like, y' all didn't even know she was that fast. Like, how is she this fast and this pretty? Like, this is crazy.

[Podcast Host]

When you were of age, of course.

[Rory]

Yeah, obviously, this is the worst plug.

[Podcast Host]

Ever for this amazing thing.

[Rory]

No, no, no. I think no.

[Podcast Host]

Like, what he's doing is incredible.

[Rory]

But that's why. But that's why I asked him, because I wanted to know just how it was just coaching, like, coaching. Coaching girls playing football. I never, you know, that's. That's pretty dope. So it's your second year. Good luck. If you need us to come down and just have some fun and kick it at the. At the. At the. At the camp, I'm more than willing to come down to Tennessee and see what it's about, man.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, man, I appreciate that, man.

[Podcast Host]

Where's the best place to find, like, website, Instagram, socials that somebody could sign up for this?

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, find my Instagram. I have a couple links in my bio. I made a recent post about it. So if you go to Trey Smith. All lowercase. On Instagram, you can find all the information pertaining to it.

[Podcast Host]

Great. And we'll also put a link in the YouTube here. If you hit the little arrow down, you'll be able to click it. See, that's how bad I am. We'll put the little. The link right there.

[Rory]

Drop down. Yeah, right here.

[Podcast Host]

Just. It's in this area over here. You'll be able to click it and sign up.

[Rory]

Trey, we appreciate you taking some time to kick it with us, man. I'm looking forward to seeing you back on the field healthy. You know, Pat, he needs you back there, man. He needs you. He needs you protect that billion dollar, that billion dollar investment back there. Good luck with everything you're doing. Good luck with the flag football camp and we'll see you and talk to you down the line. And whenever you're in New York, you gotta come out of the studio and come kick it with us, man.

[Trey Smith]

I love the opportunity, bro. Appreciate you guys having me on, man.

[Rory]

Trey Smith. Rory.

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[Trey Smith]

That's the fun part about being an artist, that you need to have the.

[Podcast Host]

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This is your girl, T.S. madison. And I'm coming to you loud, live and in color from the Outlaws podcast. Let me tell you something. Something I've got the Voice. My podcast, the one they never saw coming. Each week I sit down with the culture creators and scroll stoppers. Tina Knowles, Lil Nas X. Will we ever see a dating show? My next ex.

[Trey Smith]

That's actually cute, though.

[TS Madison]

And Chapel Rome.

[Trey Smith]

I was dropped in 2020.

[Rory]

Working the drive thru.

[Bom Han]

And here we are.

[TS Madison]

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