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Greg Rosenthal
It's Greg Rosenthal and I'm teaming up with the king of spring, Daniel Jeremiah. He requires me to say that we're going to be bringing you 40s and free agents, the only podcast you'll need this NFL draft season. From DJs mock drafts to my top 101 free agents will have it covered for you with all new episodes every Thursday keeping you up to date as we head to the NFL Draft. Listen to 40s and free agents on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.
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Zach Randolph
The Volume. No worrying.
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Daniel Jeremiah
All right Rory. We back for another episode of don't know Ball. Today we are joined by somebody who absolutely knows ball. One of my favorite players, 17 year NBA veteran, a guy that dominated his position was fun to watch, very smooth, you know, was lefty down there on the block. So it's, you know, you can't do nothing with that down there on the block when they left. Good, good dude, man. A guy that I spent some time around while he was playing. Had some, some, some good nights, good nights out in the city. We are joined by Z Bo Zack Randolph. What's up fellas?
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Zach Randolph
What's up fellas?
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Tony Allen
Before we get into anything, I want to ask you, do you have any mall stories?
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Zach Randolph
That's my brother, man.
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Tony Allen
What's mom's club swag like?
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Zach Randolph
I see ma do a lot of practice, man, like one of the best ever ball Handlers that ever played the game.
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Daniel Jeremiah
He talking about Crawford. He talking about Crawford.
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Zach Randolph
Oh, I'm talking about Jamal. Okay, my man.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Zbo, how you been, man? You, first of all, congratulations on retirement and wrapping up a great career as a guy that, you know, watching you play, you know, you. And one of my other favorite players to watch growing up, Derrick Coleman, remind me a lot of D.C. derrick Coleman, how was adjusting to retirement? How's that been for you, man?
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Zach Randolph
It'd be good, you know, for me, because I had things set up. You know, I got an entertainment company called Endless Entertainment, which started back in Memphis.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Uh huh.
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Zach Randolph
Me and my partner, partner, one of my best friend, Marcus Howe. And you know, I had a chance, you know, being blessed to sign Moneybagg, yo, one of the best rappers in the game, best artist, best lyricist. And man, it was a blessing, you know what I mean? And got more talent in the city and other states and just been working, man, just been grinding.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah. I mean, you know, obviously what you did in Portland and here in New York in your career was great, but what you did down in Memphis, it has to be at least 12 statues, Zebo, around the city of Memphis at some point. How is. How has. How has it been adjusting to, you know, getting into business and. And like you said, signing money back? Yo, how was that experience been for you, man?
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Zach Randolph
It been good. You know, I started it. I started the record label while when I was playing in Memphis. So I was still, you know, working and grinding with the team. So it was good. It was a smooth transition. You know, a lot of guys that starts labels, it's always the opposite, you know, it always. It's not a good turnout. You know, I know guys that when I came into league, I started labels, they was like, man, I lost 4 million. I'm 18, 19, you know, I got. Oh, geez. Talking about how they lost four members like, I ain't even have a million years.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Zach Randolph
You know, I always was, you know, just always was annoying and scared about, you know, getting to music, but music. But Memphis has so much talent, man, and so much, you know, culture and so many talented artists, man. It was the best thing to do. So, you know, it was a blessing, man.
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Tony Allen
How did you first originally get in contact with Moneybagg?
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Zach Randolph
Yo, the city that's been in Memphis, you know, me being in the city, I give it back to the city, you know what I'm saying? I give back and around the city, around the community, you know what I mean? And he wanted to Work. Work with me. You know, I mean, he was up and coming and, you know, he's seen loyalty there, he's seen the honor, and he wanted to get on the train. I seen it in him too, you know, the talent and, you know, special artist he was. And so it was just perfect fit.
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Tony Allen
What was it like navigating, starting that label and having an artist like Moneybagg? Yo, it was.
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Zach Randolph
It was good. It was good, man. Just been, you know, just getting out there, learning things and seeing how the music industry work with bag coming up and all kind of different things. So, man, I could. It was the best experience ever. You know what I mean? Yep, yep. So it was the best experience ever. And I can't complain, man. It's been. Been a blessing, you know, I mean, just not only that, just to work with other artists in. In the business space. You know, we got artist named D Moolah, Big homie G, big 30, mud, brother Bo, you know, Nick Hard Body. We got so many artists with so much talent, and our artist, Lonely Girl. So it's like, it's a blessing, man, just to get in there, get in the studio to, you know, listen to different beats and see hearing different artists and, you know, tell their side of the story.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Now, Zebo, we from the same.
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Zach Randolph
We.
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Daniel Jeremiah
We was born the same year we came up, you know, the same era, listening to music. How is the music, adjusting to the music now for you, as opposed to when we was coming up, listening to hip hop, how was. How was it like? Is your ear still like, damn, this ain't what I'm used to. But I gotta kind of get used to this new sound, this new way, because now I'm invested financially and as a businessman with these artists.
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Zach Randolph
Yeah, it's definitely different now. I think these, these. Now it's more, you know, you got different. You got different zones. You got the hip hop, but you also got the different kind of hip hops, right? You know, I like where it's at. You know, I'm a fan of music. Not only that, man, I love all music. I listen to a lot of R B, a lot of old R B, a lot of, you know, hip hop. You know, I like Latin music. I like. I like all type of germs and music. So, you know, just learn about different genres. I think with. With us, we'd be so just stuck with the hip hop. But no, it's other genres out there. That's. That's good music. So I, for me, I love music, man, all the way around.
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Tony Allen
What Type of artists were you listening to as a kid?
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Zach Randolph
Man, you know, for me, I'm from the Midwest, from Marion, Indiana, so I grew up listening, you know, MC8, you know, McBreed, you know, top authority, Busta rhyme. So I spice one, you know, brother Lynch, Hug Sibo. Yeah, you know, so three Six Mafia, you know, so I, I, I. Because where I'm from, we, we listen to everything from the Midwest. So, you know, I grew up listening to everything.
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Daniel Jeremiah
What you got?
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Tony Allen
How far you guys from Chicago?
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Zach Randolph
Chicago, about two hours.
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Tony Allen
Two hours. Okay. So you attach more to the Chicago scene too sometimes. Like Twister. Twist, Twister.
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Zach Randolph
Oh, do like. I grew up, that was my era, you know what I mean? I grew up listening to that, you know what I mean?
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Daniel Jeremiah
Now you was drafted to Portland at the time where you got there, they dubbed y'all the Jailblazers because of y'all style of play. Talk to that transition. Coming in from college, coming in from Michigan State, highly touted, one of the best players in college. Coming out. When you got to Portland, who was your vet? Who was the guy that put his arms around you and kind of like helped you get your legs under you in the league?
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Zach Randolph
Man, you know what it was, it was all, it was all the OGs, from Bunsey Wales to Damon Stoudemire to Rashid Wallace, all them guys took me under their wings some way or somehow and I learned something from every one of them guys, you know, as a, as a young man coming into the NBA, trying to find my way and looking up and them guys looking up to the receipts and watching how they, Scottie Pippen, how they conduct, being a professional, you know, showing up, being a first at practice, you know, in the weight room, doing things like that. So I learned a bit. I learned something from all them guys, man.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Now you, you, you a name you mentioned, that's another, you know, revolutionized the powerful position. Rasheed Wallace. What was those battles like for young Z Bo coming in and having to be in practice and having to guard sheed and go at and go at.
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Zach Randolph
She Wallace, man, it was tough, man, like you said, coming in, you know, 18 year old, 19 year old rookie, looking up to them guys, you know what I mean? She's, she was one of my favorite players coming, you know, growing up, you know what I mean? And so just getting to compete against him, you know, the big clavitas, the bonus, one of the best passing bigs to ever play the game. And so just competing against them guys every day, you know, coming in, I didn't Play my first couple years in the league, but I got so much better in practice. Going at the boys, talking shit. Going at Sheed, she talking, you know, shit to me and all the other guys that making me compete harder, you know, our practices, it was. Man, it was on. Like, guys literally get to fighting and cussing each other out. Like, it was that type of, like, nah, we gonna bust our ass like the second team, like, we had a whip, you know what I'm saying? So we wasn't just going, you know.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah. One of the names you threw out there are Vita Sabonis. You. I'm a little. You know, we obviously the same age, but I hear a lot of, you know, praise and talk about Jokic, and rightfully so. I think what he's doing is amazing, and he's one of the. One of my favorite players to watch, but I'm old enough to remember what Sabonis looked like. And, you know, a lot of people don't know, but Sabonis, before the injuries and how he dominated over in the Euroleague and things that he was doing. How is it, you know, for somebody like you who actually saw that up close and personal, and then you get to look at guys like Joker today in the league, and you don't. But you don't hear guys, you know, they say, oh, we've never seen nothing like this. But somebody like Zach Randolph, who was in practice with a Sabonis, how was that for you? Like, to sit down and sit back and hear guys say, like, we've never seen nothing like this. And you've actually played with some of the most legendary big men of the game, man.
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Zach Randolph
Yeah, like you said, just notice, you know, and it's depending on who's saying that, too, because like you said, Arvidas, he was a one of a kind, like Jokic. Jokic, he's a special player, one of the best ever played a game. But Jokic got a lot of Marcus soul. Marcus Soul had the same thing. And Jokic, they remind me each other a lot, you know what I mean? When they lead the team with the pass, like, Mark was our IQ on the team, defensively and offensively, he get everybody going. He got me going on both ends, you know what I mean? And got me a touch. So just seeing how they play, they remind me so much of each other. And like you say, he got a lot of Arbitas in him. Jokic does. You know, he's a special player. But like you said, there's players that's before him that you can Put in that same realm of things with, with, with Jokic, like, hey, you got a lot of this, you got a lot of RV this, you got a lot of mark in you. The guys that play this game.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Do you ever sit back and watch the game today when you see guys like Jokic and you kind of sit there in front of the TV and rub your hands together like, damn, I wish I had a. I wish I had a shot at him because I, I know exactly how I had to guard him. He got to come back and gu. Like, how is it watching the game now with these guys like Jokic and you sitting back knowing what you did and your style of play? Like, do you ever sit and wish you had that opportunity to match up?
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Zach Randolph
You know what, man, I got to play against Jokic in his younger years. And you know, when I played against Maori, he always had talent, like you said, he always had him intangibles, always can score the ball, can pass the ball and he can shoot it and you can. You knew he was going to be a good player and you look at his progression of playing and you see that he's getting better. So, yeah, man, I see. I sit back and watch these young fellows play. Miss a lot of talent, but damn right I wish I can get out there and go at the boys and throw some elbows and you know, give them a little that old school, you know what I'm saying?
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Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah.
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Zach Randolph
Now the boys is tough though.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Do you ever. Do you ever watch the game now, today and ever feel like, you know, most of the fans today, we kind of feel like the game has changed so much because, like, when you were in Portland, the style of play in the league then even, shit, not even Portland, Memphis, the style of play is so different and not just team by team, it's like around the league, unanimously, everybody is playing the same. It's just shoot threes. Shoot threes. I read something that the commissioner is thinking about introducing the four point shot at some point in the next couple years. Do you just feel like the game is kind of getting away from one, the physicality and two, just the essence of like real basketball. Because, you know, you see guys get up and down and everybody stop at the three point line and just shoot threes. It's like, okay, I get it. But that kind of takes away some of the fabric of the game though.
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Zach Randolph
Yeah, I definitely understand what you're saying. You know, the game has changed. You know what I mean? Like, it's a lot of more shooting, a lot more three point, but at the, at the same time I give the game credit because the fundamentals is. Is definitely not where it was. It's. It's more. These guys are 6, 7ft shooting threes, picking and popping. Like the game has changed. But at the same point, you know, I feel like for me, like basketball, it's not like it used to be, but you going to get that. It's like a revolving clock. Always say it all the time. I think it's going to always come back around. You're going to have a draft for maybe five years from now, six years from now, you're going to have six, seven footers, you know what I mean? Like you're going to have two sacks coming in were guys like Zach Edie, you know what I mean, in a post and playing. So I think the game has changed and I. Guys, a lot of, a lot of guys want to play. A lot of teams personally want to play like Golden State a. The one who said, who, who set this trend and started playing this way with the three point shoot. And I think for that you got to have a personnel. Now if you got a team, you got some guys on them on a team that you got shooters and you got knock down threes and you could play that way, that's understandable. But I feel like the teams need to play to their strength of what their personnel is on our team, you know what I mean? And some strength might be post player, pick and pop shoot threes, but teams need to play to their strength of their personnel.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Now, a couple seasons ago, the new face down there in Memphis, Ja Morant, ran into some troubles away from the court. Did you ever, did you get the opportunity to kind of like tap in with him and reach and reach out to him and kind of put your arm around him and guide him a little bit?
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Zach Randolph
Oh, for sure. You know, that's a little bro. He family man. Him, his dad, t, his sister's mother, you know, that's family. You know, Memphis is a small community and it's all love and you know, I've been through a lot of shit. You know, I do not, I don't tap my head a few times. That's all right though, right? You know how you bounce back is how you come, so and that's how you be. Your bout. Your bounce back is real. So like I tell little bro, just, you know, adversity, man, a small thing to a giant. You get knocked down, get back up and that's what he doing, you know, I mean like he's saying like he's one of the best players in the NBA, really. The face of the NBA. All these kids want to be like Ja, you know, at the end of the day, you know, So I just feel like it's just a minor setback for a major comeback. And that's what he doing. He's on a major comeback, you know, just keeping his nose clean. And that's all it is, keeping your nose clean and stay out of things and everything else. Take care of self.
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Tony Allen
Stay off Instagram.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Stay off Instagram.
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Zach Randolph
I was gotta stay off that ig.
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Tony Allen
Register your guns and stay off Instagram. I was reading a stat that Portland has the most strip clubs per square mile in the entire country.
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Zach Randolph
Every corner broke joint.
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Tony Allen
I've never been to a strip club. I've never been to Portland period. So I've never been to a strip club in Portland. What's the culture like?
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Zach Randolph
Yeah.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Z Bo tell people about. Because I got a chance to go to Portland a couple times and I was surprised, but you actually lived there for some years. Tell people exactly how like Portland is an underrated city, man.
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Zach Randolph
And Portland is a great city, man. The fans is great. Only thing about Portland, just go there in the summertime. During the season it rains every day, bro. I mean every day like that shit can be depressing.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah.
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Zach Randolph
You know what I mean?
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Daniel Jeremiah
So.
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Zach Randolph
But size of rain, the city great man of fans. Some of the best fans that I ever played play for every night. They're loyal, they love they trailblazers, man. And port is a great city. Ain't got nothing bad to say about their city, you know, I mean, just it rained a lot in season, but an off season is so beautiful. It's green, no humidity. I got business still down there. So I'm always in Portland. A lot of friends around there. So I'm always in the city.
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Tony Allen
Memphis strip clubs or Portland strip clubs. I'm staying on the strip clubs.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Gotta go Memphis. That's Z boy going Memphis.
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Zach Randolph
Memphis cool. But Memphis small too. In Portland small. But I say Portland got a lot more exotics.
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Daniel Jeremiah
So I like exotics. I like. They got more exotic, they got more flavor. Yeah.
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Tony Allen
Every four feet, I mean you gotta.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah, yeah.
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Tony Allen
Spice it up.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Who was the. Who was the hardest player? Now again, I watched a lot of your games and I can't remember but I'm gonna guess you're going to say Tim Duncan to this, to this, to this question, but who was the hardest player you had to guard, man?
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Zach Randolph
For me it's a lot of them. Tim Duncan definitely Tim Dunk and kg, them two guys, for me was the hardest. And Dirk Nowitzki, you know what I mean? Coming up, my era, you know, the wild, wild west, man. You know, I played in the west and then it was all Fords.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah.
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Zach Randolph
Chris Weber, One Night Dirt, Tim kg, Carlos Boozer, Andre Karolenko, Elton Brand, Lamar Odom, like every team in the west, their player, their star players, the powerful Marcus Aldridge, L.A. you know what I mean? So it's like where it never was, no night off.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah.
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Zach Randolph
You know, in Portland, who is the.
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Tony Allen
Hardest to guard out of all those names?
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Zach Randolph
I probably say kg, KG and Dunk in my top two, you know, ticket just being long and being, you know, wiry. Grabbing you hands this big, he grabbed you. The refs letting you do it, and the ref's looking at him do it. So he like, you know, he got away with murder. So.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah, I say kg, I remember one, one, one incident you had on the court a few years ago. I. It was personally, personally, I liked it because again, I got a chance to spend some personal time around you. So I know your personality, But. But I also know it was out of love. You and DeMarcus Cousins got into the little bit, bro. Yeah, yeah. No, and I know you love him. I know you got love for him, but you told him, you said, where I'm from, we bully the bullies.
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Zach Randolph
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Daniel Jeremiah
What did you mean by, like. I know what you meant by that, but a lot of people didn't understand what Zach Randolph meant by that, man.
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Zach Randolph
You know what, man? You know, me and DeMarcus, we always talk shit when we used to play against each other.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah.
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Zach Randolph
This time he was fucking with his teammate, Buddy Hill. You know, him and Buddy Hill used to play together.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah.
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Zach Randolph
And so I hear him just talking to Buddy, I look up, I say, yeah, I'm working. The bullies get bullied, you know, I mean, I just put in a conversation.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah.
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Zach Randolph
And we laughed and laughed about it, but. Nah, it's all good, though.
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Daniel Jeremiah
He was one of. He was one of the guys where.
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Zach Randolph
The bullies get bullied, though.
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Daniel Jeremiah
No, that's a fact. That's a fact. He was. DeMarcus Cousins was one of the guys too. You know, when they. When they talk about the big men and, you know, the Yiches and the Zebos. Before his injuries, you know, Demarcus Cousins was one of the most electrifying big men to watch. I mean, he was revolutionized the position, too, for his window that he had. He could run the floor, he could Pass. He could shoot, he could dribble, he could post up. How was it watching his development again, him being your little bro?
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Zach Randolph
How was that for you, man? Watching Boogie was great because like I said, he's like what you just said. He's one of the guys that revolution. I'd rather his power center, he can shoot the ball. He was big. Every time I played against Boogie, I had to get my rest that night because I knew it was going to be a dog fight. And so definitely so. But like I said, look, bro, the way he plays the game like you said, I think he definitely should have played longer than he did. But you know, there's a lot of politics in the game too, but he's definitely one of the best ever to play in the game still. Even though what his career he had for me, because I know Boogie, he can shoot the ball, he can handle it, and he's seven feet and he likes contact. He gives you. He hits you first. He like me, he's a hit type first guy.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah.
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Zach Randolph
So, and, but definitely. And, and I feel like, you know, I feel like guys like me and Boogie, we don't get our due. You know, we kind of rough around the edges and, you know, we kind of, you know, don't get, get the respect or get to do what we need to do. But Boogie's one of the best to ever do it.
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Daniel Jeremiah
You played at Michigan State under legendary coach Tom Izzo. What do you feel about 1 nil and 2 the transfer portal? How do you feel about those two.
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Zach Randolph
Things, man, the nil. I feel like it's a great thing. A lot of these kids ain't gonna ever have a chance to make that much money in their career or in their college life or even after their. Their career playing sports. So I feel like that's a great thing for them. But I think we need to put a cap on it somewhere. We need to start making it like a, like contracts, kind of how like the NBA is like, you know, you need to put in stipulations. You know what I mean? I think that's where it's going. I think eventually it's going to have rules and stipulations, you know, like a cap or something with this nil because, you know, every year, you know, the teams. No more Cinderella teams. There's no more teams building up from, you know, to be able to have a good teams. It's like the money, you know, how much money you got, right? And that's how I go. So if you got some money that university got some money, you're gonna have a good team. And I think, you know, it's kind of hurting the game. It's definitely hurting the younger players because it's, it's definitely a lot of high school players don't get scholarships no more. There's a lot, a lot, a lot of players, young, younger players that's missing out because of the older guys and the transfer portal and you can be a certain age now. So I think it needed to get looked at again and put some, put some stipulations on it.
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Tony Allen
Do you think, you think that'll keep the players in college longer rather than one and done and going right to the league?
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Zach Randolph
Well, I feel like the players just one and done, like I was a one and done player. Them players stand alone because Cooper flags the Queens, the Ace Baileys and the Harpers. Dylan. Them guys stand alone. So nephew Jace Richardson. So them guys, I think them, the top players, they stand alone but like for everybody else, you know what I mean?
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Tony Allen
Yeah.
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Zach Randolph
That's not a first round pick or, you know, they, they own a teeter of to be in the NBA or going overseas.
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Greg Rosenthal
It's Greg Rosenthal and I'm teaming up with the king of spring, Daniel Jeremiah. He requires me to say that we're going to be bringing you 40s and free agents, the only podcast you'll need this NFL draft season. From DJs, mock drafts to my top 101 free agents will have it covered for you with all new episodes every Thursday. Keeping you up to date as we head to the NFL Draft. Listen to 40s and free agents on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
- [25:37]
Daniel Jeremiah
Now, when you was out here, Z. Bo with the Knicks, y'all had a great. Looking at that roster, man, I just don't. I don't. I don't understand how y'all didn't have more success. Y'all had some dogs on that roster. We was hopeful when what. What do you think went wrong there with the. With the talent y'all had. That may. That may have been one of the most talented Knicks rosters, man, you know.
- [25:57]
Zach Randolph
What it was, bro? If the first year I got there, I gotta think I got there for beginning of the season. I got traded this next season during the deadline. The next season when we was off and running. I think we have. It was nine and two or eight. I mean, we was above. We was like four or five games above.500. So we were starting to take off. And then, you know, the big LeBron dilemma coming in. They thought LeBron was going to come to New York and they had a chance and they got rid of all of us. They got rid of me. Mall. They trade all, traded all the guys. And I felt that was the team right there. That team was right there, was going to be able to compete. And we offer. We was off to a great start. And boom, all of a sudden, everybody.
- [26:40]
Tony Allen
Got traded planning in a couple organizations. Do you think James Dolan mismanages the entire Knicks organization?
- [26:49]
Zach Randolph
I definitely do. I like Mr. Dolan, but I think, you know, and I think that's what he doing now since I think he's kind of understanding that because he got. He brought great people in. You got West, I think Leon.
- [27:01]
Daniel Jeremiah
Leon Rodeos.
- [27:02]
Zach Randolph
You got. You got the great guys that's coming in. So I think now that, you know, it's different than when I was there, you know, because I heard all the talk. Dolan needs. Dolan's this, Dolan's that. But for me, I met Dolan a few times and, you know, he had brought me to the Knicks and, you know, I ain't got nothing but respect for him, but I think he's starting to understand now that let other people, you know, take over and, you know, maybe him. Maybe I step back a little bit, let these guys run the show. So I think that's what's going on now.
- [27:29]
Tony Allen
What was the difference New York.
- [27:30]
Zach Randolph
New York's the Mecca, bro. I mean, that's the Mecca, you know, but, you know, Nick's got a lot.
- [27:36]
Daniel Jeremiah
Of history, but Dolan, I think. I think Dolan's thing was. Because, you know, you. You played in the Garden. It's sold out every night, no matter who's on the roster. Yep. It's in the middle of Manhattan. So I don't think that. Yeah, Dolan, he don't really have a. Like, it's not broke. The brand sells itself. And no matter who I have on this team, who's coaching, every game is gonna be sold out. But that roster that. While you were here, looking back, I'm like, I just don't understand how this team didn't, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, one of the greatest power folds ever, the greatest sixth man ever. One of the greatest point guards ever. All of these guys, David Lee, like, all of these guys, and I'm just like, how the. Did they not keep this core together and at least get to the finals?
- [28:21]
Zach Randolph
I didn't understand that, man. I. I really didn't. Because, you know, like I said, the squad that they had and that we had, when I was there, that short period of time, we had a squad, bro.
- [28:32]
Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah.
- [28:32]
Zach Randolph
And we all got along and we all believe like, that that year we got traded. We was like, oh, yeah, we about to whoop they ass. Okay. Oh, yeah.
- [28:39]
Daniel Jeremiah
Come on.
- [28:40]
Zach Randolph
Like, yeah, it was. You can see it.
- [28:43]
Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah.
- [28:43]
Tony Allen
What was the difference? Like, playing in New York as opposed to Portland, Memphis, etcetera, man, like you.
- [28:48]
Zach Randolph
Said, just America just been in New York. Just the lights and the glitch, the camera, the action, man. You know? I mean, don't get no bigger than New York City, you know? I mean, Portland was a great. Because it was like you said, it was crowd sold out, you know, most every night. And in Portland, so the fans was great there, too. But that New York just got a different.
- [29:05]
Daniel Jeremiah
Different buzz, different energy, man.
- [29:07]
Zach Randolph
It's just different that New York. Just different, man. What.
- [29:09]
Daniel Jeremiah
What?
- [29:10]
Tony Allen
Celebrity courtside made you play a little bit harder that game?
- [29:16]
Zach Randolph
Good question.
- [29:20]
Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah, I know.
- [29:21]
Tony Allen
It wasn't Ben Dealer, you know.
- [29:23]
Zach Randolph
You know who it was, though? Holly Berry.
- [29:26]
Daniel Jeremiah
Okay, that'll wake you up. Yeah, that'll wake you up.
- [29:29]
Zach Randolph
Turn me up, man. Beautiful woman. You okay?
- [29:35]
Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah.
- [29:35]
Tony Allen
Remember your stats from that night, man?
- [29:38]
Zach Randolph
You know my stats. New York was good. I had plenty, too. I think that game, probably 20 and 15. I had to show out that game.
- [29:44]
Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah.
- [29:47]
Zach Randolph
So. But, you know, every night, every home game, New York, it's turned up. It star studded. You know what I mean? So it was like, damn, damn. You know what I mean?
- [29:57]
Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah. How has it been? Because you. You have a. You have a personality. I think a lot of people know that. You know, obviously your personality is big, as big as your game. But how has it been transitioning into the pod? Like doing podcasts with you and TA Y'all get to sit around, talk shit, talk, tell some stories, and from two players who were very, very aggressive on the court, now get to sit down and talk to guys that you played against, relive some of the battles and some of the moments you had. How has podcasting been for y'all?
- [30:25]
Zach Randolph
Man, it been good, man. It been good. Just, like, getting a lot of feedback from. From our peers, from, you know, from Matt and From Stack, Zack and, you know, guys that we talked to, Gil and D. Mil, the guys that's in the space, which I think every one of the guys should be in the space. From Draymond, Draymond, like, Draymond Baron, all them guys. Them guys and motivation. So for us, we rough around the edges, you know what I mean? Like, it ain't no. We ain't giving to you perfect. We give it to you raw. You feel me?
- [30:54]
Daniel Jeremiah
Like, right, right.
- [30:55]
Zach Randolph
This is us. Like, it ain't gonna be no we giving, giving homies, they love showing love, but we're gonna talk about some real, too. But it ain't never to get on there, and I ain't never try to, you know, talk down on nobody. Are we just giving, giving bros, they flowers, you know what I'm saying? Just showing love, you know, out the mud, everybody out the mud somewhere, somehow.
- [31:14]
Daniel Jeremiah
Right?
- [31:14]
Zach Randolph
I mean.
- [31:15]
Daniel Jeremiah
Right?
- [31:16]
Zach Randolph
You know, everybody got a story, you know what I mean? And it ain't got to be coming up in powerful. You could be the richest, you could be whatever. But it's still out there. You still got out the mud experience somewhere, somehow in your life, you know what I mean?
- [31:29]
Tony Allen
Who's been your favorite guest so far?
- [31:33]
Zach Randolph
Man, you know what? I. We'd have some good guests, man. We didn't have some good. Guess it ain't. It just right now, it ain't no favor for me because all of them being good. Like, we just had Sasha Vulgic, you know, he's a champion. You know, he never did a pod, so that was great, sitting talking to him. You know, he come from a different country where. Yeah, awards that where he had to. You know, war. They was dropping bombs and, like, real out the mud. So it was like, wow. You know, I mean, hear what these guys been through. And talking to Big Spain, Marcus, Saul, just his experience, and it been great, man. Kd, Rose, Autumn guys showing us love, man. And we showing love back to the real ones, man. And it's been great, bro.
- [32:14]
Tony Allen
For sure. Who out of everyone you play with, would you say had the worst music taste in the locker room ever?
- [32:23]
Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah. Who's playing that?
- [32:26]
Zach Randolph
I was playing that.
- [32:28]
Tony Allen
How many times you have to unplug the speaker?
- [32:30]
Zach Randolph
Oh, I had to unplug the speaker a lot of times. Or actually playing this.
- [32:34]
Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah.
- [32:36]
Zach Randolph
You know who. Who not ta plays some good music? A lot of them guys probably Rashid Wallace. He's kind of playing some bullshit. What's this? You know, I'm. I'm listening. I'm bumping E40. He talk, man. I'll put it on E40. Put in some beans. But I listen to beans.
- [33:02]
Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah, yeah. He gonna keep. You know, he gonna keep it Philly. He gonna keep it Philly.
- [33:05]
Zach Randolph
You know, she gonna keep it straight. Philly. Easy. You know what I mean? I'm from the Midwest, so I keep it a little. Everything.
- [33:11]
Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah.
- [33:12]
Zach Randolph
Nah, but, man, I always played music. I think for us, we love music, man. And I think the artists, they want to. They used to play basketball, so it's like a perfect match.
- [33:24]
Daniel Jeremiah
It's always. It's all rappers and ball players mix. Yeah. Yeah.
- [33:27]
Zach Randolph
So. And it's crazy like that that, you know, that, you know, if you each artist probably they don't play ball. Bag money back. He think he got a jump shot. Tell him he ain't. He ain't good. You know what I mean? So I just think all these guys. All the. All these guys love music, man. All the NBA players, you know, that's all we. You. You see, we got our. Listen to. Warming up with our headphones on now. And it just. It fits good with us, man, with. With the athletes, you know what I mean? And vice versa.
- [33:55]
Tony Allen
Who's trying to rap in the locker room?
- [34:00]
Zach Randolph
Mike Conley. Mike Con used to rap a little bit.
- [34:03]
Daniel Jeremiah
I can't see my calmly rapping.
- [34:05]
Zach Randolph
He just said. He say a few little bars, you know, he say a little J. Cole. He got, say a little J. Cole bars or something.
- [34:11]
Daniel Jeremiah
Okay. Okay.
- [34:12]
Zach Randolph
All right.
- [34:13]
Daniel Jeremiah
Mike so laid back and quiet, man.
- [34:16]
Zach Randolph
Yeah. Oh, yeah. He laid back quiet. So you get to know him. Who else? A lot of guys rap, man. Want to be rappers or. Or any game. But. Yeah, I can't do no rapping, though.
- [34:30]
Daniel Jeremiah
You ain't Doing no rapping?
- [34:31]
Zach Randolph
No, I ain't doing no rapping. I might get. I might. I might get in a. Get in the booth, though, and drop a 16 or something, man.
- [34:38]
Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah, yeah. How has it been, first? Oh, I meant to. At the top. I meant to congratulate you. Your daughter. Congratulations. She's at Louisville now. She was also McDonald's All American. And I saw you posted your McDonald's All American card and her McDonald's All American card. How was that for you? Just as a father, like, how crazy was that moment to really, like, see that happen, man?
- [35:00]
Zach Randolph
You know what? It gave me butterflies, man, just being able to relive that again and see my daughter do it better than me, you know, I want my kids to be better than me and see her worth ethic in a way. She loves playing and it meant so much more to me to see my baby and situation that light. And seeing her playing in the McDonald's All American game, it really gives you flashbacks. Like, damn, that was me. You know, I remember my game was in Boston, you know, that year, and, you know, they're doing the same thing, going to see the sights and, you know, the McDonald houses or whatever they're doing for the itinerary, and it just brought back flashbacks. So, man, no, it's been great, man. My daughter, she works hard. I'm proud of her, man. This is a big summer for her, so she'll be a sophomore next year. And we working, we working.
- [35:50]
Daniel Jeremiah
I know you got in the gym. I know you got in the gym.
- [35:52]
Zach Randolph
Work, work, work.
- [35:53]
Tony Allen
I've heard, like, Blake Griffin talk about his. His pops was his coach all throughout his entire life. Did you coach her through high school or just trained? How did you balance that between being her dad and then training her to be at the level that she's at now?
- [36:06]
Zach Randolph
Well, you know what? It's so funny. I'm there because she like dad. So I'm like, come on, let's do this. She like, okay. But then I get a trainer and she like, okay. So I'm there. I just let the trainer do the work. And then I rebound short some things, you know what I mean? So, you know, with them kids, man, I don't know, they wanna. They work harder for the next person. I don't know.
- [36:29]
Daniel Jeremiah
She don't. She just don't. Yeah, you dad, you. Cause you dad first. You don't know Z. She don't know Zebo. She don't know the killer on the court. She know dad, man, so she ain't listening to dad. But if she go turn that YouTube on and look at. Look at some Zach Randolph highlights, she gonna know who she need to be listening to. That trainer. That trainer ain't do it at that level. He ain't do it at that level.
- [36:48]
Zach Randolph
I try to tell her, man.
- [36:50]
Daniel Jeremiah
All right, we scoured through some of the rappers that mentioned your name in their bars throughout the years of you playing and things like that. So we gonna. I'm gonna try my best to give you the same cadence and the same flow, but I'm gonna recite some of these lyrics, and I want you to try to guess who the artist is that. That wrote these bars.
- [37:16]
Tony Allen
Mall's gonna have to take most of this segment because I can't say a lot.
- [37:19]
Daniel Jeremiah
There's some words that Rory just can't say. Z. Bo. He can't. He can't say. He can't say the words.
- [37:23]
Tony Allen
Get the cadence. I just don't want to.
- [37:26]
Daniel Jeremiah
All right, first one, ball and four. I went to Memphis, nigga. I'm Zach Randolph. Soon as you change the price, I ain't think twice.
- [37:35]
Zach Randolph
I ran off estg.
- [37:39]
Tony Allen
That's correct.
- [37:39]
Daniel Jeremiah
Estgi. Yeah, we gotta.
- [37:44]
Tony Allen
We have to stop with this trend of running off on the plug.
- [37:46]
Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah, that's just dangerous. Yeah, that's a dangerous. That's a dangerous energy to be putting out there. We're gonna do another one. He gonna get this one on a private jet about to take off. I ain't really with the back and forth talk. 50 in the Glock. Zach Randolph, man.
- [38:01]
Zach Randolph
Money bags.
- [38:02]
Daniel Jeremiah
Money bag, yo. Prayers. All right, let's see. Let me try another one. It was three digits in the clip until his man's ran off. Dumb decision. Gave him half Zach Randolph.
- [38:15]
Zach Randolph
Three clips. It's a tough one.
- [38:19]
Daniel Jeremiah
That's baby Tron. Cat dog.
- [38:22]
Zach Randolph
Subside to baby Tron, man. Yeah, I think my son might have told me about him.
- [38:28]
Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah, Cool. Let me see. Let me give me one more.
- [38:34]
Tony Allen
The last one.
- [38:35]
Daniel Jeremiah
The last one. All right. Living my best life, Shorty, you can't never get attached. Went to the plug, got a couple peas. Then I ran off like Zach, little boy Rowdy. Roddy Rich.
- [38:45]
Zach Randolph
Roddy Rich. Shout out to my boy Roddy Rich.
- [38:47]
Daniel Jeremiah
So everyone did the.
- [38:48]
Tony Allen
The runaway scheme.
- [38:49]
Zach Randolph
Yeah.
- [38:49]
Daniel Jeremiah
So Zach, Zach, you listen. So you hear. When these got your name out there.
- [38:53]
Tony Allen
Zach, you might as well go, which.
- [38:56]
Daniel Jeremiah
One is that one? Okay, one more. Wall to wall to be slapping like I'm playing handball in the jungle. I'm a grizzly like I'm Zach Randolph.
- [39:11]
Zach Randolph
No, that One.
- [39:13]
Daniel Jeremiah
I'm gonna give it to you one more time. Wall to wall to be slapping like I'm playing handball in the jungle I'm a grizzly like I'm Zach Randolph.
- [39:23]
Zach Randolph
Damn, I don't know what that one is.
- [39:26]
Daniel Jeremiah
That's Drake. The Drake the Ruler. Oh, Drake. How was that? How was that the first time you heard your name in a rap? Like, how. How long did you play that song? How many times you brought that verse back the first time you heard it? And who was the artist? Who was the first artist you heard put your name in the bar?
- [39:45]
Zach Randolph
You know what, man? The little homies out of on front, you know what I mean? Lil Germ, he one of the first guys, you know what I mean? They rap. He started rapping. You know, I got in the league. He put. Put my name on some songs. So really, people from where I'm from, you know what I mean? And like you said, like the. The rowdy riches, the money bags, the Yo Gotti's, you know what I mean? That's my man. So a lot of guys been showing me love, man, on these. Put me in these verses. I like that. You know what I mean? I got a little young brother out here named Peso. He hard too. You know, he got a. He got a song called Zach Randolph, you know what I mean?
- [40:25]
Daniel Jeremiah
So wait, where's. Where's Peso from?
- [40:29]
Zach Randolph
Afn. Afn, Peso, he got a song called Zach Randolph.
- [40:33]
Daniel Jeremiah
Okay.
- [40:33]
Zach Randolph
He hard. Yeah, he's from la.
- [40:35]
Daniel Jeremiah
Okay.
- [40:36]
Zach Randolph
Yeah, check it out. So, yep, afn, he. He been making noise.
- [40:39]
Tony Allen
So is that the same Peso that was on Kendrick's album or a different Peso.
- [40:47]
Zach Randolph
Afn, Peso.
- [40:48]
Daniel Jeremiah
No, I don't think that was the same. I don't think that was the same one.
- [40:51]
Zach Randolph
He cold, though. Y'all gotta take him out. He hard, but. Yeah, so it's a lot of guys that be showing me some love in the. In the. In the music, man. And you know, they recognize a real one, man. I recognize them too. You know what I'm saying? So it's all love, for sure.
- [41:04]
Tony Allen
Who was the first rapper that you met once you got to the league and they knew who you were?
- [41:13]
Zach Randolph
First rapper I met, he got to. Man, he got. I've been doing this for a long time, man. I know all them guys. Probably ludicrous. When I was, okay, 17, eight. When I was 18, I had a. Came to Portland, Oregon to do a show.
- [41:33]
Daniel Jeremiah
Oh, wow.
- [41:34]
Zach Randolph
Yeah. This before the season, my rookie season, and I came and I met his little Brother fate, a little fate rap. They like man, we. If we we with you Z. Boo man. And you know, I had gave him my jersey. This one I was wearing number seven. I had just got drafted. I had number seven. I gave, gave him my jersey. I was at the show. They're like, man, we a big fan.
- [41:53]
Daniel Jeremiah
Oh, he got a number seven. Zach Randolph Blazers.
- [41:56]
Zach Randolph
Yeah, yeah.
- [41:56]
Daniel Jeremiah
Oh my.
- [41:57]
Zach Randolph
When I first got drafted, they end up changing to 50, but it was seven. That's because I think we had, I think Greg Anthony had got traded that year or somebody had that 50.
- [42:06]
Daniel Jeremiah
Probably Greg Anthony.
- [42:08]
Zach Randolph
Greg Anthony or Brian. I forgot Brian last name. But he was a big. So that's when I got that 50 back.
- [42:16]
Tony Allen
Yeah.
- [42:17]
Daniel Jeremiah
Zo, you ever thought about getting into coaching like on a real level, like at the league level?
- [42:22]
Zach Randolph
You know, I, I always think about it and the guys always tell me I should just to, you know, get the knowledge I got help the bigs in it in my game and getting knowledge of the game that I know to help. So I'll be thinking about it. I really do. But you know, I know the coaching is a lot I enjoy, you know, my kids, my daughter, she got games college. I like going to her games, you know, my son, I got an 11 year old, a 15 year old daughter, 7, 8. Be busy. So like I like to be, you know, can go watch them play and enjoy. So like coaching. I don't know but I thought about it. But I don't know, maybe you know what I mean in the future but not right now.
- [43:00]
Daniel Jeremiah
Yes, we just saw last what maybe two weeks ago now. The Nuggets fired Coach Malone out of what seemed like nowhere to us. Like we didn't have no knowledge of that. As somebody that, you know, obviously played at the highest level, how surprising were you of the news of, of them firing a coach that just come fresh off a championship over two years ago and is, you know, his team is still one of the best teams in the league. How, how surprised were you at that, at that firing?
- [43:30]
Zach Randolph
I definitely was surprised. Coach Malone is a great coach. You know, I don't know what, you know, what was going on interim or you know, what they got. But from the outside looking in, coaches, the players respected him. Not only that, Coach Malone was a loyal coach. You know, he bled every Nuggets and he did whatever he could. Excuse me to. For that team to be successful and he gave his heart and he gave it all. So at the end of the day, you know, coaches, coaches get fired, players get traded. You know what I mean, so it all comes hand in hand. But I can say one thing about Coach Malone. He's great coach, great guy. And he gonna go to war for you. He will go back for his players.
- [44:13]
Daniel Jeremiah
Now you, obviously, I think it's safe to say this. They had to run that by Jokic before they did that. Like, I don't think they could make that move without consulting first because it.
- [44:27]
Zach Randolph
Should get tricky, man. Get tricky when it comes to that. You know, these guys, these owners, they don't, you know, some of them do, some of them don't. You know what I mean? So, I don't know, it can get tricky because you got some owners, you know, they like, shit, this is our team, we run it. You know, like, they don't tell players when they getting traded. They just trade you. So it's kind of like hand in hand. So I don't know if they told Yokachet, you know, they could have.
- [44:51]
Daniel Jeremiah
I think he came out and said that they, you know, he, they, they say, spoke to him, I guess right before they was about to fire him. They told him why they were doing it, but he said basically he had no, he had no calling. I don't know if I believe that. I believe Jokic is the, is, he's the, he is the franchise. And I think that they have to run everything through him. Um, I'm not saying it was a personal thing between Jokic and coach. I'm not going to go that route. But I do think that he had to, he had to know something. I think that it was more surprising for Luca to get traded than it was for Coach Malone to get fired from Denver. I think the Luka trade was absolutely, I don't, I think nobody, you know, I don't think Luka didn't even know about that. But I think that, I think that, I think that Jokic definitely knew about Coach Malone being let go before they obviously did it. What did you think about the, the Luca trade?
- [45:44]
Zach Randolph
You know, I, I, I, it was surprising when I heard it, but I'm like, you know, what the hell, you know, I mean, just like everybody else was. And you know, Coach and Nico, that's my man too. You know what I mean? So like I said, Nico seen the vision too, you know what I mean? That, you know, he saw and the owners or whoever above him saw and they went with the move. Like I said, this is just the NBA, man. Anything can happen. You know what I mean? Shit, you know, some of the best go to different teams. So like I said, it was God's plan. Like I said, this is probably what God wanted for Luca and it's working out the best.
- [46:19]
Tony Allen
Now, being from Indiana, how do you feel about Freddie Gibbs?
- [46:23]
Zach Randolph
Man, I fuck with Freddie. Freddie Dalman, you know what I mean? Freddie got a great talent, you know, he put known for Indiana, putting on for gi, you know what I mean? So in them respect, you know, you got an Indiana guy coming out and hard like he is, you know what I mean? So I fuck with Freddie.
- [46:38]
Tony Allen
Have y'all connected before?
- [46:40]
Zach Randolph
Oh, for sure. Hell yeah.
- [46:42]
Tony Allen
I'm surprised.
- [46:43]
Zach Randolph
We try to do some shit together, you know what I mean, with some of the artists and him. Cause you know, he hard and you know what I mean. And I like his music.
- [46:51]
Tony Allen
I'm surprised there's no Zach Randolph bars from Freddie. Yeah, I think he's due up for.
- [46:56]
Daniel Jeremiah
Oh, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely.
- [47:00]
Zach Randolph
Pop my thing, get in this video and pop my collar, you know.
- [47:02]
Daniel Jeremiah
Exactly.
- [47:03]
Tony Allen
Before we get out of here, your top five Memphis rappers of all time.
- [47:09]
Zach Randolph
I ain't got no order because there's so much talent. So much, man. From Project Pat to Money Bag, yo to three six mafia, Young Dog to eight Ball, mjg. Man, Memphis got so much talent. I mean, I keep going yo Gotti's to the. You know what I mean? To player fly like it's so many artists. Gangster, black, you know what I mean? Like a little white. Yeah, so many, you know, Memphis got so much talent, you know, I don't.
- [47:44]
Tony Allen
Think they get the credit they deserve. Memphis is.
- [47:48]
Zach Randolph
But. But we do what we don't. Because they know what it is. You see what I'm saying? They know. They don't want to say it, but everybody knows it, you know? I mean, that's why you got all the big time labels in Memphis signing all these artists, all these producers, every label, they in Memphis, they got guys on the ground. Yeah. Going around looking for talent, you know what I mean? We need to keep all the talent inhouse, you know what I mean? I ain't just saying to Endless to in house to. To the people that's got it going on where they can put these artists out. So. Because they. They. They in the city, man. They in the city, they working. They trying to take everybody out the city, man. Which I don't blame them because it's business. And yeah, these kids. These kids and. And men and women in Memphis are talented, you know? I mean, not just on the musical side, on the creative. Creative top side too, you know. Let's not forget about the creative Side, you know what I mean? Because so city got it going on. It's got a bad negative light. People be scared of Memphis, but Memphis is a blue cult by blue collar town, blue, blue collar hard working people like myself, you know, just out the.
- [48:52]
Tony Allen
Mud is nothing giving easy being a music exec yourself. Can you speak to what Yo Gotti has built with cmg? Because I, I feel like he doesn't get brought up in the conversations when you're talking cash money, Rockefeller, death row. Like Yo Gotti has really built an empire with cmg, man.
- [49:11]
Zach Randolph
Man, hats off. Kudos to my bro Yo Gotti, man. Not only that, I seen Gotti grind. Like I've always was a fan of Gotti music. And just to see him being, being able to be around him and see him grow to where he's at now. He been grinding. This ain't this one. Easy Gotti out the mud. He really got the mud like that. He rapping about like he ain't telling no lies. And, and guys respect him, you know, he's a businessman, he's a business minded person and he. All he does is work, work, work, you know, I mean, God is a workaholic and you gotta work to what you want to do. And God is a prime example of being in his game, taking steps and working to where he get. And I'm proud of him, man. He done created, he done, he done created something for his family and to pass on and to keep building.
- [50:00]
Tony Allen
For sure. No, it's a legendary label already.
- [50:03]
Daniel Jeremiah
All right, Z Bo, well, we appreciate you, man. It's good talking to you, man. I got a link with you next time I'm out there on the west coast, man. We gotta hang out, man. And we love what you and Tony Allen is doing. Continue to do what y'all doing without the mud. And definitely one of me and Rory gotta come by and sit on the couch speaking with y'all too and talk some.
- [50:19]
Zach Randolph
We know you gotta get your own, man.
- [50:21]
Daniel Jeremiah
Definitely. We're gonna make it happen, man. It was good talking to you. We appreciate you, bro.
- [50:25]
Zach Randolph
Appreciate y'all.
- [50:26]
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