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Sophia Donner
This is an iHeart podcast guaranteed human
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Brent Dusing
Amazon Health AI presents painful thoughts
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Sophia Donner
why did I search the Internet for answers to my cold sore problem? Now I'm stuck down a rabbit hole filled with images of alarmingly graphic sores in various stages of ooze. I can clear my search history, but I can never unsee that.
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Brent Dusing
Don't go down the rabbit hole.
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Amazon Health AI gets you the right care fast. Health care just got less painful.
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Professional Wrestling fans, the action continues every week.
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Brent Dusing
This is total non stop action.
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Sophia Donner
Based on the best selling novel from Carly Fortune, the new Prime Original series Every Year after follows Sam and Percy across six summers as they take a second chance at a love that never really let go. It's the kind of story that brings you back to a summer crush you never fully got over, or a friendship that almost turned into something more with slow burn tension, lakeside nostalgia, and that lingering what if? It's the kind of show people say they couldn't stop watching and were a little emotionally destroyed by in the Best Way. Watch every year after streaming June 10th only on Prime.
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Newt Gingrich
Welcome to Newt's World podcast on the iHeart podcast network. A lot of things going on. President Trump is trying to widen the Abraham Accords by frankly pushing the Saudis and others to join in the agreement. He thinks that it will strengthen the survival of Israel and strengthen the stability of the region. He stated that Saudi Arabia and Qatar should sign first and then he said Pakistan, Turkey, Egypt and Jordan should also join. Trump posted quote I am mandatorily requesting that all countries immediately sign the Abraham Accords and that if Iran signs its agreement with me as President of the United States, it will be an honor to have them also be part of this unparalleled world coalition. Presently, the Abraham Accords have been signed by Bahrain, Kazakhstan, Morocco, Sudan and the United Arab Emirates. It's also interesting that there's reports that the Iranians are beginning to restore the Internet to millions of people in Iran. During the blackout, they literally couldn't communicate. Now they're letting them start to communicate again. That could be a very positive thing. We'll see. According to Iran's first vice president, Mohammad Reza Aref, in line with the esteemed president's mission and in fulfillment of the government's promise, the first step toward free and regulated access to cyberspace has been taken. The Iranian government earlier had justified the shutdown on national security grounds, although a lot of people thought they did it frankly to stop communication between people who were against the government. Netblocks and Internet Monitoring Group has said that its data shows a partial restoration to Internet connectivity after 88 days, making it the longest nationwide Internet shutdown in modern history. Coming up, I'm joined by Brent Dusing, founder and CEO of trueplay, the world's leading faith based gaming and entertainment platform for children. That's next.
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Professional wrestling fans, the action continues every week.
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You got it coming.
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Brent Dusing
This is total non stop action.
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Thursday night Impact every week on AMC. For show times and more information visit
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comes from Public, the investing platform for those who take it seriously. On Public you can build a multi asset portfolio of stocks, bonds, options, crypto and now generated assets which allow you to turn any idea into an investable index. With AI. It all starts with your prompt. From renewable energy companies with high free cash flow to semiconductor suppliers growing revenue over 20% year over year, you can literally type any prompt and put the AI to work. It screens thousands of stocks, builds a one of a kind index and lets you back test it against the S&P 500. Then you can invest in a few clicks. Generated assets are like ETFs with infinite possibilities, completely customizable and based on your thesis, not someone else's. Go to public.com podcast and earn an uncapped 1% bonus when you transfer your portfolio. That's public.com podcast paid for by Public Investing Brokerage Services by Open to the Public Investing Inc. Member FINRA and SIPC Advisory Services by Public Advisors llc. SEC Registered Advisor Generated Assets is an interactive analysis tool. Output is for informational purposes only and is not an investment recommendation or advice. Complete disclosures available at public.com disclosures.
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Newt Gingrich
I am really pleased to welcome my guest Brent Dusing, Founder and CEO of trueplay, the world's leading faith based gaming and entertainment platform for children. Brent, welcome and thank you for joining me on Newt's World.
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Brent Dusing
Thank you Newt. Great to be with you.
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Newt Gingrich
You know, you spent your career at the intersection of technology, entertainment, digital culture and faith. What first drew you into the tech world?
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Brent Dusing
When I graduated from college in 2001, it was right during the dot com crash. But I had seen so many companies come to light, you know, Amazon, ebay, a lot of other companies that are kind of bygone now that had made such big differences. And I spent a couple summers in Silicon Valley working. And so technology seemed to me to be an exciting way to make big change, big impact, and hopefully make a positive impact on people's lives.
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Newt Gingrich
You were for a while at Menlo Ventures. What is Menlo Ventures?
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Brent Dusing
One of the top venture firms in the world. They were one of the biggest investors in Hotmail, if you remember Hotmail, way, way long ago, before they sold to Microsoft. They are investors in Anthropic, who makes cloth. They're one of the biggest investors there. They were one of the biggest investors in Uber and they also backed my first company, Cell Fire.
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Newt Gingrich
It's amazing when you start from there, what do you think you learned about how to think when you were working with Menlo?
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Brent Dusing
I learned a lot because it was my first job out of college. And what I learned was how to invest when things are bad. So my first day of work was September 4, 2001, right. So seven days later, the whole world is shut down, Right? And the stock market, it was already declining, but it hit rock bottom, you know, right then. And it stayed rock bottom really until we went into Iraq in early 2003. And so you had about 18 months of just a low stock market flatline, which of course affects everything, affects the capital markets. So what I learned was how to invest in technology companies or how to choose opportunities with all the hype stripped away. Because, you know, two years prior, in 1999, it was eyeballs, it was hype. It was all types of nonsensical reasons that many investments were made, not all of them, but many. And so when you strip all that back and you're forced to make decisions, just looking at facts and how to do that in a proper, appropriate way, that really helped me a lot for what I do today.
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Newt Gingrich
You pioneered game creation with Christian content, starting with Lightside Games, which is a Christian gaming studio which has reached over 7 million game players and resulted in about 25,000 decisions for Christ partnering with the Billy Graham Evangelical Association. It's a very interesting decision on your part that that's the niche that you want to build your career around. How did you come to that conclusion?
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Brent Dusing
It was a combination of things. I came to Christ in 2003, 2004 time frame at a little church in Mountain View, California. There are still some churches in California for our listeners out there. And I went to this little Bible church and started asking the pastor a lot of questions, and he gave me a lot of things that really supported the evidence for the truth of the Bible and the resurrection of Jesus Christ and who Jesus was and really changed my life. And the other thing is I saw the movie the Passion of the Christ, and that planted this idea in my mind. You know, you look at not just how good that movie was, but how many people it reached. And a lot of it was because Mel Gibson married biblical authenticity with really high quality production. I'd grown up playing video games, grown up making games as a kid. And so after my first company, which was a mobile coupon company people might have used in grocery stores, after that, I really wanted to do something that I thought would really impact people's lives. And that's really where people are. You know, a lot of times the popular media misses the idea that more money is spent on video games than on movie theater box office receipts. Children play video games. It's really their preferred media form these days. And so that results in a massive opportunity to reach people, given what you do now.
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Newt Gingrich
But you actually started with Cell Fire, which provided mobile grocery coupons. Now, I would think that requires you to sell either the food manufacturer or the grocery company. So in many ways, it's not a technology play, it's a marketing play.
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Brent Dusing
The answer need was both. So we had to go cut deals with the CPG companies. So those were our customers. Right. So Procter and Gamble and Kraft and we had to go cut deals with grocery stores like Kroger and Safeway. So if you go to any Kroger or Safeway today inside the grocery store, you'll see, hey, you use your cell phone and use coupons on your cell phone to save money. On the grocery store. That's what Sell Fire it created. Then there wasn't even an app store and we started Sell Fire. So we had to go negotiate with all the wireless carriers like AT&T and Verizon to get permission to run on their network. So that was 20 years ago. Things were more complicated to execute then. But we got it done. We did the first time a mobile phone integrated into a point of sale system. We did that with Kroger stores at Cell Fire.
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Newt Gingrich
What inspired you? Because you're now making a huge jump when you create trueplay, which is a platform focused on biblically grounded content for children between 5 and 12. That's a big jump from coupons. How did that occur?
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Brent Dusing
So sometimes, Newt, you're called to things. God calls you into things. And when you finish one adventure and you're searching for what's the next, God sometimes meets you there. And so with trueplay, I was thinking about, okay, what do I want to do for the rest of my life? We'd had some success and things like that. I'm not a guy that sit on the couch forever, play golf. Those kind of things aren't that interesting to me. And God really spoke to me about the vision and what he wanted me to do. That was confirmed by a lot of facts. Newt. Things have never been worse for children in America than they are today. I'll give you some facts. Anxiety, suicide and depression rates are at all time highs for children. The average male is exposed to pornography when he's 12 years old. Only 31% of children in America believe in God, without a doubt, compared to 68% of adults over 40. Only 2% of kids have a biblical worldview. The overall point is that we're just losing this massive generation of children. It's because they're on screens 50 hours a week. And it's not that screens are bad, but the content they're inundated with from TikTok, from Roblox, which we're going to talk about a little later, from so much toxic content around identity and sexuality and your hyperviolence and a lot of demonic content that's out there now, have changed their opinions about what's true, what they desire in their life, what's important for them to focus their time and energy on, and what even their identity is. And so we wanted to go do something about it. And at trueplay, the thrust has been let's build something that's fun so kids actually want to choose to do it. It's fun, it's entertaining, it's also high quality, but it's also going to contain God's truth in every piece of content you touch. Everything you do is going to contain God's truth.
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Newt Gingrich
Did you find generally that churches were responding positively to the concept of true play?
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Brent Dusing
They do, because most pastors want to see good results for the children and they don't have a lot of resources available to them. Right.
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Newt Gingrich
From your perspective looking at all this, does it worry you how much children are interacting with, you know, systems like ChatGPT rather than interacting with human beings?
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Brent Dusing
It does think about social media. Right. Social media has actually really done the opposite of what it's purported to. When social media started, it was going to connect people in better ways. What it's actually done is make us antisocial. Right. It's polarized people. Right. And all the woke stuff, whether it's sexual identity or just racial hatred and animosity, that wouldn't have happened if there wasn't social media. Were there some positives that came out with certain truths and things being revealed? Yeah, sure, as you know, it's devastated news. Right. And sure, it sprouted some independent journalism, but by and large I think social media has been a big net negative to society and what it's really done is exact to put control in a small number of people's hands. Now you asked about ChatGPT, which of course AI is a lot of what we're going to talk about today. I think so much of what not enough young people realize is they go immediately to ChatGPT as source of truth, to do school homework on their behalf, writer to write a resume or whatever. And what they don't realize is that it's being controlled and it has an agenda. And the agenda is really an anti Christian worldview from a lot of these big tech platforms and especially Google actually, because we have had a lot of receipts to prove that with Google from what we've experienced here at trueplay, that's the real danger is who do you go for, your source of truth? And if you're going to AI chatbots and if you're not aware that they're going to try to drive you away from the things of goodness, the things of God, then we've got real problems.
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Newt Gingrich
Do you think there's that almost a conscious culture of Silicon Valley or why does that exist?
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Brent Dusing
100%. So if you think about it, the things that happen in tech companies are often reflections of their founders, the choices they make. Apple, very famously, their design aesthetic came from Steve Jobs minimalistic viewpoint. On Meta or Twitter before Elon Musk bought it, right, they would block and ban conservatives, Christians, right. But they never ban anybody on the far left. You never found the real extreme leftists being banned for their points of view. You never found people with these really horrible sexual things they're pushing on children. You hardly saw that banned. Right? And so there really is an agenda and a belief system. And I mean, think about this. Name one big tech company that's run by a Bible believing Christian. One of the big mega. Half a trillion dollars or more. You can't. And a lot of the people who work at those companies and make decisions for what content is promoted and what content's created and what content's allowed. Because I include Disney in this too, you know, content creators as well. Their viewpoint of Christianity is somewhere between it's a big waste of time to as extreme as it's the worst thing in the world and we've got to eradicate it. And that's why we had a lot of the discrimination that we had happen in the past few years and why there are real issues we have to deal with right now as Americans to prevent AI from trying to destroy the Christian worldview.
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Newt Gingrich
There's a lot of controversy about a system called Roblox and whether or not it's actually sort of a setup for some adults to groom young children. I mean, what's your view of that whole issue?
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Brent Dusing
It certainly is. You know, Roblox, if you're listening, is a platform that over 100 million children use every day. And it's purported as, hey, it's a place where kids can build games and play other kids games. Which sounds fun, right? Like digital Legos. The problem is there have been stories for 15 years of child porn, sex trafficking, groomers and predators. Tucker Carlson recently had someone on his show who's an ethical hacker who went onto Roblox and he said he would pretend to be a kid so he would try to get predators to come after him. And he said every time he tried, eventually a predator came at him. There was a child, a young man who was killed, 15 years old, in Stony Brook, New York, left his house and six weeks later was found dead in a river in New York City. Stony Brook's about two hours away from New York City and the last thing he'd been doing was playing Roblox. They are under lawsuits by 10 different state attorney generals because they've had for 15 years children being preyed upon. Here's why. The thing is that they make money based on people to choose to opt in to spend money inside the game. So it's a free to play platform and you can spend money for, you know, increased things. When you run free to play games, only like 5% of people pay most of these games. Usually people pay, you know, five, ten bucks a month. But the real money is what you call the whales, which is people who spend thousands of dollars a month on video games. Right. That's how Candy Crush makes money. That's how a lot of these games make money. Let me ask you this question. With Roblox, who's more likely to spend $1,000 a month? A 10 year old boy or a 50 year old man? And that's I think, the reason why they haven't done enough.
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Newt Gingrich
When you develop a platform because you're coming at it from a values based background, how do you block the kind of predatory behavior that we see all too often in some of the other platforms?
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Brent Dusing
Well, so with trueplay, there are no chat rooms, there's no ads, there's also no micro purchases. So you pay a subscription once and that's it. So we're here to protect children, right? We're here to give your kids an amazing experience that's fun, that they're going to love, that also enables them to take something away with them that is not just for this life, but for eternity. You know, things about the truth of God and hope and optimism and the fact that they have a real purpose. That's our number one goal. And I'm so disappointed that Roblox, they've had these problems for so long and they've done nothing to prevent it. From my standpoint, at trueplay, we do everything we can to make sure that children are safe and protected and that it's a place that parents can trust and feel safe.
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Newt Gingrich
You present a very interesting intersection. On the one hand a very deep set of values and on the other hand, very sophisticated knowledge of the art of investing. How do you weave those two together to form a mutually reinforcing symbiotic system?
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Brent Dusing
I think it really starts with what's our purpose, why are we doing this? Right? And then in terms of games, it's we have to make a game that's fun. We have to make a game that's fun and enjoyable and that gives people something they're going to enjoy doing and then wrap that in a story, right? Because many games tell stories. And so inside the story you may be playing King David. So we have a King David's Battles game where you play King David and you go fight Goliath. We have a game called Stained Glass where you match these stained glass pieces and then eventually the glass pieces form a stained glass window. The stained glass window comes to life and tells you the story from the Bible. Some of the characters speaks to you. We also have a story about a little girl called Maple who's a bunny rabbit who wears a tiger costume that goes in the forest and finds that the forest is darker and it's deteriorating and there's monsters there and it's because this evil queen has confiscated all the Bibles out of their society. And so there are many ways to build games and make them entertaining and we like to tie stories in that connect with people, connect with their hearts and take them along the journey with us in stories that we tell.
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Newt Gingrich
When we come back, we're going to discuss why college students are booing discussions about artificial intelligence and what does their reaction reveal about the fear, the uncertainty and the future of work in the AI era.
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Newt Gingrich
You've seen these various news stories where people are giving a speech, particularly at for some reason, college commencements. If you mention artificial intelligence, people just start booing. To me, that's almost like booing the mention of the wheel or the mention of the steamboat in your own mind. As somebody who really understands this vastly better than I do, how do you think about artificial intelligence and its relationship to the rest of us?
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Brent Dusing
I think the first statement I'd make is that the benefits of technology, any new technology, are always oversold way before the downsides are considered. You know, consider the car, right? The Model T. So my great grandmother died in a car wreck coming back from my grandfather's wedding and probably around 40 to 50 mile an hour accident. Why? Because Model Ts didn't have seat belts and airbags and analog brakes. Right? So if you had a wreck, that was it. Asbestos. Hey, asbestos is a great cheap way to provide insulation abilities. Yeah, okay. Unfortunately, it also causes cancer. Right. Social media we just talked about, right? It didn't make us more connected, it actually made us more antisocial and increased anxiety, suicide and depression rates. The challenge with AI, there are many benefits to it, but the reason why you see these reactions from college students at a baseline is of course because it's destroying the job market, especially for entry level help. You asked me about my first job right out of college when we started, right? So when I was young and all my colleagues from college and other friends I had at other places you could go to a workplace and with almost zero experience. I mean I had a couple summer internships, but get a decent high paying job and I could come in and actually deliver For Menlo Ventures, I delivered value for them, brought in investments that made them a lot of money. And that was true for most entry level jobs. You know, there was this understanding, this implicit understanding that, hey, you may not have a lot of skills, but you stick with us for a while, we'll train you. You're going to work hard, you're going to work harder than, you know, the average employee because you're young and you're going to earn it and you're going to get there. And everybody benefits from that understanding. Now, from a pure economic standpoint, right, for most businesses, it doesn't make sense for them to carry on that expense because certain AI agents can do work levels at a level at or higher than what a entry level person can do. And frankly, not just entry level. There are a lot of jobs being replaced from people who have had those jobs for 30 years replaced by AI agents. So think about this, Newt. This is the first time in the history of the world that CEOs of companies have said, the product I'm selling you may destroy you and kill you. You've had Adario Amadei say that from anthropic, famously, you've had Elon Musk say versions of that. You've had Sam Altman, I don't know if he said that publicly, but it's come across in some of his writings. The people creating these very things think there's a real chance that it destroys society. And there's this real danger that AI creates a world where kind of like H.G. wells time machine book, where you have this society where there's a small number of people who were in charge and control AI and everyone else is just paid universal basic income, which you've spent a lot of your career fighting leftism and Soviet style thinking. And that's the type of world you wind up in.
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Newt Gingrich
But do you think that has to be a way or can AI actually empower higher levels of creativity?
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Brent Dusing
That's the real question. I think the answer from where I see things today, certainly AI can empower certain levels of creativity. There is a risk that it creates massive devastation. And that's why you see floated by a lot of AI company CEOs that, hey, we're going to go to universal basic income. There's a term that people in politics use, what is it? Where you're a trial balloon, right? Where you float the idea and you get people talking about it before it's there. So they're more used to it when it actually happens. That's why Universal basic income is being trouble. And I'll tell you a story. So someone I know told me that's really close to one of the big AI company CEOs. He said that they tried a universal basic income experiment. I believe one of the tech companies did this and they took a few thousand people and they paid them universal basic income. And guess what happened to the men? They did drugs and watch porn. Right. If you take a man's purpose away, like a man who's fully engaged and healthy and can be a contributor to society, and you take away his purpose to work, it destroys him. I mean, that's the story from the Garden of Eden, right? God said, hey, Adam, I made you. You're in charge of the world. Go steward the earth. Even when they got removed from the Garden of Eden, the job was still that he had to go out and build and harvest and so forth. And that's what men and women too are built to do. And so I think the fact that this is being floated and nobody knows the future. Exactly. But there's real dangers that we wind up in a situation of a small number of oligarchs controlling way too much. And that's why we have to really stop that now as Americans, before we wind up in a society like what happened to the Soviet Union, where you had a Christian nation, which was Russia. Small number of people take over with a lot of power and devastate the entire place, both economically but also culturally and from a faith standpoint.
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Newt Gingrich
Nicholas Eberstadt, who's a great demographer, points out that There are about 7 million males who have now dropped out. They're no longer listed as looking for work or as unemployed because they're not. They don't want to be employed. 7 million, which is about the number that was unemployed at the peak of the Great Depression. It raises a lot of your point, which is a lot of social questions about what's happening to the culture. Coming up, we'll discuss whether we as a society can embrace artificial intelligence without losing human connection, creativity and moral grounding.
- [30:16]
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Brent Dusing
total non stop action.
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- [31:16]
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for the show comes from Public the investing platform for those who take it seriously. On Public you can build a multi asset portfolio of stocks, bonds, options, crypto and now generated assets which allow you to turn any idea into an investable index. With AI it all starts with your prompt. From renewable energy companies with high free cash flow to semiconductor suppliers growing revenue over 20% year over year, you can literally type any prompt and put the AI to work. It screens thousands of stocks, builds a one of a kind index and lets you back test it against the S&P 500. Then you can invest in a few clicks. Generated assets are like ETFs with infinite possibilities, completely customizable and based on your thesis, not someone else's. Go to public.com podcast and earn an uncapped 1% bonus when you transfer your portfolio. That's public.com podcast paid for by Public Investing Brokerage Services by Open to the Public Investing Inc. Member FINRA and SIPC Advisory Services by Public Advisors llc, SEC Registered Advisor Generated Assets is an interactive analysis tool. Output is for informational purposes only and is not an investment recommendation or advice. Complete disclosures available at public.com disclosures.
- [32:22]
Newt Gingrich
How do you see a faith based approach to life and artificial intelligence? Can they become synergistic or symbiotic and mutually reinforcing or are they inherently a conflict?
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Brent Dusing
I think the way that AI is designed right now because it's controlled by value systems programmed in that have very anti Christian views. And you mentioned Eric Schmidt. He's the former CEO of Google. If AI continues to make decisions about who can post on social media, who can speak publicly eventually who can receive resources. Banks transfer money all the time. If you're on a hate group list, you're on a dangerous group list. You can't receive funding. That's very famously happened to a lot of Christian conservative organizations put on the Southern Poverty Law center hate group list, right? I'll tell you a story. We make really high quality video games and entertainment for kids. It's Christian. We have been running ads. We ran ads on Google and have been blocked for over a year and a half from running ads because they say you can't Advertise because your content is religious in nature. However, they allow satanic games. Roblox, which had literally a game where you could recreate a school shooting that you've always shooting in Texas and then pray to Satan. There's another game inside Roblox called Nightwatch was a Pentagram and blood, Blood on the wall. That was an ad they ran. They could run that ad. Buddhist products can run ads, and transgender for kids can run ads, which, let's be honest, that's some level of faith to believe in that. They were able to run ads on Google, but Google's system blocked us from advertising, and it was because their algorithms read the Christian worldview as dangerous and harmful content. Then three weeks ago, when you do an app update, Google denied our app update because they said your content is too violent. Why? Because we had a picture of Jesus Christ on the cross as a cartoon. And we appealed twice. They ignored us. And then Breitbart called them. A reporter from Breitbart called them. They said, oh, sorry, we made an error. But it revealed their agenda. And not everybody realized, you know, Google controls the majority of phones in the world through Android. They control television now through YouTube and YouTube TV. They control a huge amount of browsers with Chrome, they control Gmail. They're the front door of the Internet for so many people because of Google search. And now that's just being replaced by the Gemini system. Here's the thing. We have evidence that Google's AI system actively discriminates against the Christian worldview. There's been well documented stories of people doing the same thing with ChatGPT and searches and how it will lead you to discriminate against Christians. From a Christian worldview perspective, if those machines are making decisions about, again, who can speak publicly and who can post on social media and who can receive electronic funding and who's a domestic terrorist. All those discrimination things that happen under Obama and Biden that have been well documented. The DOJ just released an expose about it two weeks ago. All that that happened back then will be even worse because the machine is more ubiquitous, it's more powerful, be making those decisions. And we really face a situation, Newt, where you wind up like the Soviet Union. A small number of people are in power. This government control. Well, a small government or big tech control, oligarchy, control over the economy. And the Christian worldview was silenced. Because that's the real story of the Soviet Union is they destroyed the church, they killed pastors and priests, they destroyed churches. And the whole religious faith there was
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Newt Gingrich
devastated you actually have the potential of being where we were with the railroads or with standard oil or AT&T or IBM, that these things are so big that their very size is a danger.
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Brent Dusing
I think that's obvious, and I think it's worse than it was with at&t. Sure, they had pricing power. I think that was the last time a real antitrust case in America happened and was actually carried through, wasn't it? Because the Microsoft verdict got overturned. So I think that was the last big one, right, which is how many years ago? 50 years ago or more. So kind of shows you that Big tech has so much governmental power and control, right, that we're on this dangerous precipice of conceding authority to big tech, eradicating our government. Sam Altman has even said publicly, so. Sam Altman is the CEO of OpenAI, which produces ChatGPT. Sam Altman has said the government we have may not service anymore. AI will just figure it out. It's become a religion. There's a really brilliant journalist named Karen Howe who MIT grads. I think she's in her mid-30s, and she's done a lot of research and interviewing. She very famously went into ChatGPT and did a lot of interviews and things. And she said, you know, what they're really selling is a religion. And it's true. What AI is really being sold as is we're going to make this digital God that's going to solve all of our problems and it's going to erase the need for humans to work and for us to have a government and us to have a legal system, right? And so that's the dangers we've spent, if you think about it, you know, the last, let's say, since the time of Abraham, 4,000 years, right? Building this civilization that's certainly not perfect, but for the large part, works pretty well. And conceding and all everything we've done in America, 250th anniversary in two months, right, is everything we've done to build this nation. And our Constitution is in real danger of being completely stripped away and eradicated because we're going to be conceding authority to this machine that we think is going to solve all of our problems. To me, there's word in the Bible for that, in Genesis, the first book of the Bible, called idolatry. You know, you're going to build this thing that you think is going to solve all your problems. The difference today is that when people built all those stone statues and wooden poles that they prayed to a long time ago the thing just sat there. Now the machine actually has agency. That's the difference in idolatry today.
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Newt Gingrich
That's very, very fascinating. Brent, I want to thank you for joining me and our listeners can learn more about Trueplay by visiting your website@trueplaygames.com
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Brent Dusing
well it's an honor to be with you and I appreciate you and all the work you've done and just wanted to give a shout out. I was 16 when you got elected as speaker and really always admired your career from afar and I wanted to give a shout out to Mr. Stever, my civics teacher in high school who we'd have these big debates about the revolution that you led and so just wanted to say a big shout out to Mr. Stever. Thank you for your time this morning. Newt.
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And Now I'm pleased to introduce a new segment to Newts World where I answer listeners questions. To ask a question, please email me@newtgamer360.com since this episode is about artificial intelligence, we thought we'd have some fun with the question. This question comes from ChatGPT. My producer entered the prompt Ask Newt Gingrich a question about the use of AI in government. Quote, you've long advocated for modernization and innovation in government. As artificial intelligence becomes more capable, where do you believe AI can most effectively improve government performance, and where do you think human judgment must always remain central? It's a great question, and it tells you a lot about the rise of artificial intelligence that systems like ChatGPT have this kind of impact. My personal belief is that the two great impacts of things like CHAT GPT are going to be on taking care of clerical activities so that they're all done automatically, efficiently, in a personable way. And second, looking at very advanced, very complicated issues, the human brain has about as many synapses as there are stars in the universe. And it's going to take something like artificial intelligence to begin with. The kind of breakthroughs we need for Alzheimer's and for other kind of cognitive concerns. In my mind, those are the great breakthrough areas. I look forward to hearing from you or your chatgpt or however you want to do it. To ask a question, please email me at newtgingers360.com thank you to my guest, Brent Duzing. Newsworld is produced by Gingrich360 and iHeartMedia. Our executive producer is Guernsey Sloan. Our researcher is Rachel Peterson. Special thanks to the team at Gingrich 360. If you've been enjoying Newts World, I hope you'll go to Apple Podcasts and both rate us with five stars and give us a review so others can learn what it's all about. Join me on substack@gingrich360.net I am Nick Gingrich. This is Newsworld.
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