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What makes a child’s faith last beyond high school? In this conversation, Nick Blevins sits down with children’s ministry leader and Go Curriculum founder David Rausch to talk about the growing number of young adults walking away from church—and what churches and parents can do differently.David shares the heart behind his book Feeding Faith: The Discipleship of Kids That Last, the story behind launching Go Curriculum, and the practical “EAT Strategy” for building lasting faith in kids through education, application, and transformation. This episode is packed with practical ministry insights, encouragement for parents and church leaders, and actionable ways to help kids develop a real relationship with Jesus that sticks.Timestamps04:08 – David Rausch’s ministry journey and children’s ministry background06:06 – The origin story of Go Curriculum13:00 – Why David wrote Feeding Faith13:45 – The alarming reality of kids leaving church after high school16:03 – Why this is a children’s ministry issue, not just a youth ministry issue17:01 – The “EAT Strategy”: Education, Application, and Transformation18:02 – Why biblical education alone isn’t enough19:00 – Putting application in the right place within lessons20:15 – The missing piece: spiritual transformation21:00 – Helping kids build a real relationship with God23:20 – Practical ways to create transformational moments in ministry24:00 – Making the gospel central in every lesson25:00 – Teaching kids how to respond to the gospel26:20 – Using response stations, prayer, journaling, and reflection with kids27:50 – Why so many young adults leave church after graduation29:30 – The critical role parents play in lasting faith formation30:40 – Why churches need spiritual parenting strategies32:00 – How culture has shifted parenting responsibility onto the church33:00 – Why lead pastors must champion family discipleship34:10 – Where to get Feeding Faith and Go Curriculum resources35:00 – David’s hope for helping more kids develop faith that lasts

What stories are shaping the faith and worldview of today’s kids?In this episode, Nick sits down with Matt Markins, CEO of Awana, to talk about child discipleship, biblical worldview formation, and the core message of his new book, The Story We Tell Our Children.Matt shares his personal story, the research behind Awana’s child discipleship focus, and why churches need to move beyond “Bible-lite” teaching toward helping kids understand the full story of Scripture.They discuss:The three biggest factors that shape lasting faith in childrenWhy many churches unintentionally teach moralism instead of the gospelThe difference between teaching Bible stories and teaching the story of the BibleHow screen culture and modern media shape kids’ worldviewWhy parents and churches both play critical roles in faith formationHow Awana’s Bright curriculum approaches Scripture and discipleshipIf you care about helping kids develop resilient, lasting faith in Jesus, this conversation is packed with practical insight and theological depth.Timestamps00:00 Intro and Welcome00:24 Matt Markins’ Personal Story and Journey into Ministry03:40 How Awana Has Changed Over the Years05:20 Why Midweek Kids Ministry Is Growing Again07:15 The Three Biggest Factors That Shape Lasting Faith09:20 The Story We Tell Our Children11:00 Counterfeit Stories Shaping Today’s Kids13:10 The Role Parents and Churches Play in Faith Formation15:30 What “Bible-Light” Teaching Looks Like18:45 Moralism vs the Gospel in Kids Ministry20:00 Bible Stories vs the Story of the Bible23:15 How Much Bible Content Kids Can Actually Absorb25:35 Measuring Child Discipleship Effectiveness31:20 Can Churches Really Measure Spiritual Growth?32:20 The Vision Behind Bright Curriculum34:15 How Bright Approaches Bible Teaching and Discipleship36:10 Final Thoughts and Resources

What does it actually take to help families move from attending to fully engaged?In this episode, Nick sits down with Greg Curtis and Tommy Carreras to talk about the real challenges churches are facing right now when it comes to assimilation and next steps.They unpack what’s changed over the last few years, why many church assimilation strategies are no longer working, and what they’re experimenting with right now to better connect people into community and serving.You’ll hear:Why most churches are running outdated inherited programsThe shift from information to connection and why that matters more than everThe pros and cons of 7 week, 4 week, and 1 week next step modelsWhy volunteering is often the best first step for engagementA brand new approach Greg is testing that could reshape assimilation strategiesIf you want to help people take real next steps toward Jesus, not just attend, this conversation will challenge how you think about assimilation.00:00 Intro and Guest Welcome01:00 Greg and Tommy Backgrounds03:00 The Evolution of Assimilation at Eastside06:00 From 7 Weeks to 4 Weeks to 1 Week09:30 Why Most Church Assimilation Strategies Fail12:00 The Power of Connection over Information14:30 Why Volunteering Is the Best First Step18:30 Rethinking Discipleship and Small Groups22:00 What Most Churches Are Doing Wrong Right Now24:30 The “Window” for Getting People Engaged27:00 How Long It Actually Takes to Get Connected29:30 Why Timing and Targeting Matter32:00 Stop Overloading People with Information35:00 Just-in-Time vs Just-in-Case Communication37:30 The One Week Model Explained41:00 New Trends Post-COVID in Church Engagement43:30 A Bold New Assimilation Strategy46:00 Interest Meetings Instead of Classes48:30 Creating “Hot Leads” Instead of Cold Leads50:00 The Role of Follow-Up and “Knownness”52:00 Practical Ideas Churches Can Try Right Now54:00 Climbing the Assimileas and Sherpa Tribe56:00 Final Thoughts and Takeaways

What makes a great VBS, and how do you pull one off without burning yourself out in the process?In this episode, Nick sits down with Jeremy O'Neill to talk all things VBS, from big-picture planning and promotion timelines to volunteer leadership, programming strategy, registration questions, and what actually makes a VBS successful. Jeremy shares lessons from years in local church kids ministry, why he wrote How to VBS, and how church leaders can think more clearly about whether their event is primarily about evangelism, discipleship, or both.They also talk through practical issues every ministry leader faces: when to start planning, whether VBS should be free or paid, how to reduce no-shows, how to measure if your event is really reaching new families, and how to use summer events to build your volunteer team for the rest of the year.Jeremy also shares creative ideas like staggered promotion plans, invite-day strategy, planning grids that reduce stress, and how VBS leadership roles can become a training ground for future ministry leaders.Whether you’re leading a traditional VBS, a summer camp, or any large kids ministry event, this conversation is full of practical wisdom to help you plan smarter, lead better, and make the most of one of the biggest ministry opportunities of the year.In this episode, you’ll hear about:Why Jeremy wrote How to VBSA realistic VBS planning timelineSave the date vs theme reveal vs registration launchFree vs paid VBS and the pros and cons of eachHow to think about attendance, outreach, and follow-upEvangelism vs discipleship in VBS strategyA smart registration question every church should askHow to use VBS to recruit and develop future leadersPlanning grids and systems that reduce overwhelmJeremy’s new projects: Simple Kids Ministry, KidmenU, and the VBS VaultLinks mentioned:Howtovbs.comSimpleKidsMinistry.comKidminU.comChapters00:00 Intro and welcome00:07 Why this is the right time to talk about VBS00:54 Jeremy O'Neill update and what he’s doing now01:25 Family update, adoption, and life with two little ones03:01 Why Jeremy wrote How to VBS06:10 What makes this book different from publisher guides07:13 The structure of the book: planning, programming, and people09:11 When should you start planning VBS?12:03 Save the date, theme reveal, and registration strategy13:15 Should VBS be free or paid?17:43 How pricing affects commitment and no-shows18:35 What actually makes a VBS successful?21:37 Practical ways to reach more new families22:24 The power of an invite day24:29 Is VBS more about evangelism or discipleship?31:53 A must-have registration question for every VBS34:08 Programming tip: planning grids that reduce stress42:54 People tip: use VBS to identify and develop leaders47:44 Jeremy shares about Simple Kids Ministry and KidmenU48:53 Book release, VBS Vault, and where to find everything51:10 Final thoughts and wrap-up

In this episode, Sean Sweet shares insights on the evolution and importance of preteen ministry, drawing from his transition from church staff to leading a nonprofit focused on preteen resources. He highlights the unique developmental needs of preteens, the value of intentional programming, and how preteen ministry can effectively bridge children’s and youth ministries through engaging, community-building experiences.Sean SweetConnect with Sean and find resources at the following sites:Sean's EmailFourFiveSix.orgThe Volunteer PlaybookMy first book is out! Buy the book by visiting volunteerplaybook.com or by visiting Amazon. Episode NotesKey TakeawaysPreteen ministry is essential for addressing the unique developmental needs of preteens.Creating intentional spaces for preteens is crucial for their growth and engagement.Events specifically for preteens help them take ownership of their faith and friendships.The evolution of preteen ministry has led to more resources and awareness in churches today.Leadership structure matters; preteen ministries can thrive under either children's or youth ministry, depending on context.Preteens are at a stage where they begin to question and explore their faith more deeply.Distinct experiences for preteens help them transition smoothly into youth ministry.The importance of community and relationship-building in preteen ministry cannot be overstated.Preteen ministry should not mimic youth ministry but rather cater to the specific needs of preteens.The age of 12 is significant in faith development, marking a transition in maturity.Watch it on YouTubeMinistry Boost CoachingClick here to check out the amazing benefits of coaching groups with Ministry Boost.Get An Email When Each New Episode Comes OutUse the form below to subscribe to my email list where you’ll get an email each Tuesday when a new podcast comes out.Subscribe | Share | Rate | CommentTo make sure you never miss a post, hit the subscribe button in iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, or Tune In radio. Keep your friends and co-workers up-to-date

In this episode, Jen Edwards explores how to measure health in kids ministry beyond attendance and numbers. She emphasizes evaluating milestones, building trust with families, and understanding long-term impact while navigating the pressure of performance metrics in ministry.Jen EdwardsConnect with Jen and find resources at the following sites:Jen Edwards WebsiteJen Edwards IGThe Volunteer PlaybookMy first book is out! Buy the book by visiting volunteerplaybook.com or by visiting Amazon. Episode NotesKey TakeawaysJen Edwards has a decade of experience in kids ministry.Measuring success should go beyond just head counts.Milestones like baptisms and dedications are key indicators of health.Trust is built through consistent relationships with leaders.Attendance numbers can be misleading and should be contextualized.It's important to track engagement and partnership with families.The long-term impact of ministry is often unseen but significant.Ministry work requires patience and a focus on relationships.Leaders should not tie their worth to attendance numbers.Engagement metrics can provide a more accurate picture of success.Watch it on YouTubeMinistry Boost CoachingClick here to check out the amazing benefits of coaching groups with Ministry Boost.Get An Email When Each New Episode Comes OutUse the form below to subscribe to my email list where you’ll get an email each Tuesday when a new podcast comes out.Subscribe | Share | Rate | CommentTo make sure you never miss a post, hit the subscribe button in iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, or Tune In radio. Keep your friends and co-workers up-to-date as well by sharing it with them via email or social media.Special Sponsor: ClearstreamThis episode is sponsored by Clearstream. Clearstream.io works with thousands of churches worldwide and integrates with tools your church already uses such as MailChimp, C

In this episode, Jessica Bealer shares insights from her experience in family ministry, focusing on volunteer management and building healthy team cultures. She highlights the importance of clear communication, volunteer care and appreciation, and layered leadership to effectively support and retain volunteers in today’s church environment.Jessica BealerConnect with Jessica and find resources at the following sites:Jessica Bealer IGJessica Bealer at GenerisThe Volunteer PlaybookMy first book is out! Buy the book by visiting volunteerplaybook.com or by visiting Amazon. Episode NotesKey TakeawaysJessica Bealer has 23 years of experience in family ministry.The church must adapt to technology, including AI, for efficiency.Multi-use strategies for church buildings can bridge community gaps.Communication methods must evolve as people are less responsive to emails.Healthy volunteer culture is crucial for church growth and retention.Clarity, empowerment, and appreciation are key to volunteer longevity.Personalized communication fosters deeper connections with volunteers.Layered leadership is essential for managing larger volunteer teams.Creative appreciation strategies can enhance volunteer morale.Understanding volunteer retention rates helps in effective recruitment.Watch it on YouTubeMinistry Boost CoachingClick here to check out the amazing benefits of coaching groups with Ministry Boost.Get An Email When Each New Episode Comes OutUse the form below to subscribe to my email list where you’ll get an email each Tuesday when a new podcast comes out.Subscribe | Share | Rate | CommentTo make sure you never miss a post, hit the subscribe button in iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, or Tune In radio. Keep your friends and co-workers up-to-date as well by sharing it with them via email or social media.Special Sponsor: ClearstreamThis episode is sponsored by Clearstream. C

In this episode, Tony Myles and Heather Flies share insights from their years in student ministry, reflecting on both the challenges and successes of connecting with today’s youth. They discuss their new book on relationships, dating, and singleness, emphasizing the need for honest conversations between parents and students as ministry continues to evolve.Heather Flies & Tony MylesConnect with Heather and Tony and find resources at the following sites:YM360 – https://youthministry360.comHeather Flies IGTony Myles IGThe Volunteer PlaybookMy first book is out! Buy the book by visiting volunteerplaybook.com or by visiting Amazon. Episode NotesKey TakeawaysHeather has dedicated 28 years to youth ministry at the same church.Tony emphasizes the importance of being teachable in youth ministry.Creating a diverse volunteer team enhances youth engagement.Engaging parents in youth ministry is crucial for success.The book aims to provide a platform for youth to wrestle with their questions.LINK TO BOOK: Single, Dating, Friendships, and Romance: Questions for All of Your Answers Singleness should be viewed as a gift, not a waiting period.Communication exercises help youth develop social skills.The landscape of youth ministry has changed significantly in the last decade.Youth leaders must adapt to the cultural shifts affecting youth engagement.Partnership with parents can enhance the effectiveness of youth ministry.Watch it on YouTubeMinistry Boost CoachingClick here to check out the amazing benefits of coaching groups with Ministry Boost.Get An Email When Each New Episode Comes OutUse the form below to subscribe to my email list where you’ll get an email each Tuesday when a new podcast comes out.Subscribe | Share | Rate | CommentTo make sure you never miss a post, hit the subscribe button in iTunes, Google Play,

In this episode, Russ and Gail Ewell share their experiences in building a special needs ministry and the importance of fostering inclusion within children’s and student ministries. They discuss the structure of their Spiritual Resource Ministry, practical steps for starting a special needs ministry, and the impact of creating a culture of doing good that reaches the broader community.Russ & Gail EwellConnect with Russ and Gail and find resources at the following sites:Bay Area Christian – https://bacc.cc/Deep Spirituality – https://deepspirituality.com/Website – https://russewell.com/The Volunteer PlaybookMy first book is out! Buy the book by visiting volunteerplaybook.com or by visiting Amazon. Episode NotesKey TakeawaysBuilding a culture of doing good takes time and commitment.Inclusion in ministry benefits both special needs and typical children.Creating sensory-friendly environments is essential for special needs ministry.Friendship deficits in special needs communities can be addressed through inclusive programs.Emotional intelligence is crucial for children in today's society.Start small when developing a special needs ministry to ensure success.Community outreach is a vital aspect of church ministry.Every child deserves the opportunity to participate in church activities.Volunteers play a key role in the success of special needs ministries.Churches can make a significant impact by being inclusive and supportive.Watch it on YouTubeMinistry Boost CoachingClick here to check out the amazing benefits of coaching groups with Ministry Boost.Get An Email When Each New Episode Comes OutUse the form below to subscribe to my email list where you’ll get an email each Tuesday when a new podcast comes out.

In this episode, Mutheu Esilaba of 242 Community Church discusses the evolution of student ministry, the balance between fun and discipleship, and the impact of COVID-19 on youth engagement. He highlights the importance of vulnerability, authentic community, and empowering Gen Z and Gen Alpha to take active roles in church leadership.Mutheu EsilabaConnect with Mutheu via EmailThe Volunteer PlaybookMy first book is out! Buy the book by visiting volunteerplaybook.com or by visiting Amazon. Episode NotesKey TakeawaysThe importance of recruiting volunteers for family ministry.The shift from programming to small groups in student ministry.Vulnerability in leadership fosters trust and engagement.Gen Z is open to hard conversations about faith.Discipleship should be the core focus of youth ministry.COVID-19 accelerated the need for authentic community.Fun and discipleship can coexist in youth ministry.The next generation is looking for a big God.Churches need to adapt to the changing cultural landscape.Engaging students in meaningful roles is crucial for their growth.Watch it on YouTubeMinistry Boost CoachingClick here to check out the amazing benefits of coaching groups with Ministry Boost.Get An Email When Each New Episode Comes OutUse the form below to subscribe to my email list where you’ll get an email each Tuesday when a new podcast comes out.Subscribe | Share | Rate | CommentTo make sure you never miss a post, hit the subscribe button in iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, or Tune In radio. Keep your friends and co-workers up-to-date as well by sharing it with them via email or social media.Special Sponsor: ClearstreamThis episode is sponsored by Clearstream. Clearstream.io works with thousands of churches worldwide and integrates with tools your church already uses such as MailChimp, Church Community Builder, Rock RMS, Planning Center, and more. You can get started on a free-trial, and if you're with a new church plant under 1 year old can use Clearstream free for 12 months.