150 - Real Alien Footage and The Denver Airport with Jake Hutcheson

Summary

Podcast Summary: Ninjas Are Butterflies - Episode 150: Real Alien Footage and The Denver Airport with Jake Hutchinson

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Guest Introduction: Jake Hutchinson (00:58 - 02:22)

In this episode, hosts Josh Hooper and Andy DeNoon welcome Jake Hutchinson, an internet sensation known for his engaging online presence. The hosts express their admiration for Jake, highlighting his unique voice and humorous interactions with fans.

Josh (02:02): "He was insane on Kill Tony."

Jake introduces himself and shares his experiences with online comments, emphasizing his enjoyment in interacting with his audience.

Jake Hutchinson (03:04): "I love posting the comments and just like looking at them and reading them. It makes me laugh much."

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Majestic 12 and Alien Footage Discussion (17:53 - 25:50)

The conversation shifts to one of the episode's core topics: Majestic 12, a purported top-secret US government committee formed to investigate extraterrestrial activities post-Roswell incident.

Josh (24:12): "So the Majestic 12 is a top secret US government committee formed in 1947 by President Harry Truman to investigate and manage everything related to extraterrestrial contact."

Jake and the hosts delve into the mystery surrounding the Majestic 12, discussing its alleged members and the controversial nature of the evidence supporting its existence. They reference a mysterious YouTube video by user Ivan0135, which claims to contain declassified footage of alien interviews dating back to the 1940s.

Josh (18:48): "The video contains a sample edited fragment of videotape.05 tape. Duration 180 minutes. Total recorded duration 11 minute, 26 seconds."

The group debates the authenticity of the footage, with Jake sharing his personal UFO sighting experience from four years prior.

Jake Hutchinson (23:14): "We were playing basketball one night... something in the sky explodes and lights up the whole sky... and then it shot off and exploded again and lit up the whole sky brighter and then just disappear."

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Scary Experiences and Anecdotes (04:33 - 16:00)

Jake opens up about his struggles with Temporomandibular Joint Disorder (TMJ) and shares a humorous yet relatable story about jaw pain exacerbated by podcast antics.

Jake Hutchinson (04:00): "I have TMJ so I can't fit my jaw all the way around it."

The hosts discuss personal fears and experiences, creating a lighthearted atmosphere. Jake recounts a frightening encounter with an alleged CIA agent in Papua New Guinea, who threatened with sending "five black trucks" to his house.

Jake Hutchinson (16:00): "When Pokemon Go came out, we met this, like, CIA NASA guy... he said he was going to send black trucks to our house."

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Native American Folklore and Skinwalkers (87:35 - 89:27)

The conversation transitions to Native American folklore, particularly focusing on Skinwalkers—supernatural entities in Navajo culture believed to possess the ability to shapeshift.

Ethan (88:05): "He had an encounter. I'll fill you in."

Ethan shares a story from a Navajo friend who experienced an encounter with a Skinwalker, describing it as a demonic practice involving the exchange of abilities through sacrifices.

Ethan (88:38): "It's a demonic satanic practice where they make exchanges for abilities or powers and can oppress people."

The hosts express fascination and fear regarding these legends, discussing the blending of folklore with modern conspiracy theories.

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Development in Florida and Environmental Impact (34:02 - 75:54)

A significant portion of the episode addresses the rapid development in Florida and its detrimental effects on local ecosystems, particularly focusing on bear populations in areas like New Smyrna.

Jake Hutchinson (75:54): "Over development ruins places I live. I hate cookie-cutter homes and terrible development."

The hosts critique the sale of public lands, highlighting how only a minimal percentage benefits the state while the majority profits the Treasury, exacerbating environmental degradation without effectively addressing housing crises.

Ethan (70:07): "They say they're going to give back to the state with affordable housing, but only 5% goes back."

Jake introduces the "Jumps Per Day (JPD)" series, a scientific scale he developed to encourage regular interaction with water, promoting mental and physical health.

Jake Hutchinson (33:13): "JPD is jumps in the water per week. It's very healthy."

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Fake Flight Attendant Story (50:53 - 54:23)

Josh narrates the intriguing story of a man from Florida who successfully impersonated a flight attendant, completing over 200 fake flights without detection for a decade.

Josh (50:33): "He just found their code numbers, made his own badge, bought uniforms, and flew with different airlines."

The hosts marvel at the audacity and skill required to pull off such an elaborate ruse, comparing it to the movie "Catch Me If You Can."

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Denver Airport Conspiracy Theories (90:07 - 91:41)

Towards the end, Jake brings up the enigmatic Denver International Airport, notorious for its conspiracy theories involving hidden bunkers and underground cities.

Josh (91:03): "They're the entrance to one of the nuke bunkers... or an underground city."

The team discusses the airport's unusual architecture and artwork, speculating on governmental and extraterrestrial secrets purportedly concealed beneath its foundations.

Andrew (91:18): "They have weird stuff in the murals. We'll look for stories related to that on Patreon."

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Conclusion and Call to Action (96:20 - End)

As the episode wraps up, the hosts encourage listeners to support their Patreon for exclusive content and merchandise through Sunday Cool, emphasizing community engagement.

Andrew (96:27): "We've been posting a lot of behind-the-scenes footage. Please go to our Patreon."

Jake promotes his social media channels, inviting listeners to follow him on Instagram and TikTok for more content.

Jake Hutchinson (97:00): "You can find me on Instagram at HutchJake and TikTok at JakeHutchinson3."

The hosts conclude with light-hearted banter and a preview of future discussions, maintaining the show's signature blend of humor and informative content.

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Notable Quotes:

• Jake Hutchinson (04:00): "I have TMJ so I can't fit my jaw all the way around it."
• Josh (24:12): "So the Majestic 12 is a top secret US government committee formed in 1947 by President Harry Truman to investigate and manage everything related to extraterrestrial contact."
• Ethan (88:05): "It's a demonic satanic practice where they make exchanges for abilities or powers and can oppress people."
• Jake Hutchinson (33:13): "JPD is jumps in the water per week. It's very healthy."
• Josh (50:33): "He just found their code numbers, made his own badge, bought uniforms, and flew with different airlines."

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This episode of "Ninjas Are Butterflies" offers a captivating blend of conspiracy theories, personal anecdotes, and engaging discussions, making it an essential listen for fans of extraterrestrial mysteries and environmental issues. Jake Hutchinson's contributions add depth and humor, providing listeners with both informative content and entertaining storytelling.

Transcript

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[Josh]

Alien footage discovered from the 1940s and no one can disprove it.

[Andrew]

A violent war from Papua New guinea that we found on YouTube.

[Jake Hutchinson]

And Skinwalkers found in the Denver airport.

[Lily]

This podcast is brought to you by Sunday. Cool.

[Josh]

What?

[Andrew]

What are you laughing about? I'm doing right now. Empowered by.

[Lily]

Okay, relax. I can't do it now.

[Josh]

And this podcast, High Energy.

[Andrew]

You got it.

[Lily]

And this podcast is brought to you. Empowered by Sunday. Cool.

[Ethan]

Watch this or listen.

[Lily]

Stop making fun of me right now. I'm leaving.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Oh, that's Winter park, isn't it? Yeah, he lives on the lake. College Park.

[Andrew]

Dude, we gotta get Carrot Top. Lives this close.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yeah, he has a mansion on the lake.

[Andrew]

Why are we not reaching out to him? That's crazy. Dude, he's so funny. He was insane on Kill Tony.

[Jake Hutchinson]

He, like, scoots down Winter park or Park Avenue all the time. He's all. You can just see him around places.

[Andrew]

Gotta message him. That would be. He's a legend. A comedy legend. We gotta do it, Josh. Get over your fears.

[Josh]

I don't know.

[Andrew]

You're just so scared of him. Like during the whole podcast, sweating profusely. Oh, he just reaches to grab a prop. Now he's got a gun. So great. Hey, we got a guest in the studio today. Ladies and gentlemen, Lily. Welcome back.

[Lily]

Thank you.

[Andrew]

Oh, we got another guy over there. Hey, introduce yourself. What is that? What is your name, sir?

[Jake Hutchinson]

Hello, sir and ma'. Am. My name is Jake Hutchison and I'm from Orlando and I like these guys.

[Andrew]

Hey, Jake Hutchinson, baby. Listen, we've been fans of your stuff for a long time. I'm sure a lot of people recognize them.

[Josh]

Oh, yeah, at least.

[Andrew]

The voice.

[Josh]

The Internet sensation of 2025.

[Lily]

Do your parents have deep voices.

[Jake Hutchinson]

My parents, I don't know, I've never thought about that. My parents didn't tell me I didn't have eyebrows. And then I discovered that when I went to middle school though.

[Andrew]

Good thing people don't bring it up anymore, right? I see your comment that you posted your story. So mean.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I love posting the comments and just like looking at them and reading them. It makes me laugh much.

[Andrew]

You replying to the comments are almost just as good because you. I think you pick out very. You don't reply too much to haters but it's very specific ones. It's really funny.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I love doing that. I'm glad that you see it because like I don't want to point it out too much but I want people to kind of just notice.

[Andrew]

Yeah, that's good. Very subtle.

[Josh]

All right.

[Ethan]

Gifts?

[Josh]

Oh yeah.

[Andrew]

Yeah. For real.

[Lily]

I gotta try treats.

[Andrew]

What is this again?

[Jake Hutchinson]

That's called a panda bono. It's like a Mexican bakery thing. And you get them at 7? I get them at 711 and they're phenomenal.

[Andrew]

Sounds like a Japanese lawyer office. Dude, I'm telling you, that would work.

[Jake Hutchinson]

It's a government assisted Japanese lawyer.

[Josh]

Hey Jake, throw your mic like in your mouth.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Like that?

[Josh]

Yeah, exactly like that.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I have TMJ so I can't fit my jaw all the way around it.

[Josh]

What is tmj?

[Jake Hutchinson]

It's like a. I got it too thing where you can't. You're kind of jaw hurts mine double.

[Ethan]

Joints and then clicks open. It's like painful.

[Josh]

Did you hear about the guy on. He had the clicking jaw like he had got punched and he had a clicking jaw and for years he like went to different doctors like fix it cuz it would like seize up and stuff. It's like what the heck. And then one day he just asked chatgpt and it says try this. And it was like some movement and here to crack and it was fixed.

[Ethan]

You got to send that. I legit like probably like two or three times a year my jaw locks. Playing basketball, someone reached for the ball behind me and punched the back of my jaw and it like clicked out and I went to close my mouth and my lower jaw was. I was like, I was like. I started. I started panicking. I started punching myself in the face. I punched it back in but I was like oh my God.

[Josh]

What's scary? Have your mouth stuck open or stuck close?

[Jake Hutchinson]

Open.

[Andrew]

Close to scarier open for sure.

[Josh]

Well then you can't drink.

[Andrew]

Claustrophobic.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yeah, but people could just put Microphones in their mouth anytime they wanted to.

[Lily]

You could catch something if your mouth is open.

[Andrew]

I'm also.

[Josh]

Oh, go ahead.

[Andrew]

I was just imagining. I just want to go back to Andrew story real quick. Imagining accidentally, like, fouling somebody really hard in the head, and then you just look back and some, like, middle schoolers just punching himself in the face afterwards. Like, he would have not known.

[Josh]

I'm like, that would have been so scary, man.

[Lily]

It's all right.

[Ethan]

And. And the yell does sound different.

[Andrew]

Yeah. Oh.

[Josh]

What'S wrong?

[Ethan]

Oh, my gosh.

[Josh]

We should probably show the video of. We'll play it on the thing. But when Jake brought us to the Indian restaurant. Yes. So tell us. Tell us a little bit about your adventure with the Indian food stuff. Real quick resolution, right?

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yeah. It is one of my New Year's resolutions. I have about five of them. This is the one I've kept up to date with most. And the resolution is that I want to take 12 white people to the Indian buffet, about one a month on average. And my dad used to take me to Indian buffets when I was a kid, and I just always loved that. And I love the experience you get at different places. My best Indian buffet in the city, actually, which I don't tell anyone where it is because I can't risk it blowing up and changing. They, like, know me by name, and I know them, and they all fish, and I try to take them fishing, but we don't speak that well together. We don't. I don't speak enough Indian, but that's awesome. I don't know. It's cool. I just love Indian food, and I like taking people there. It's fun.

[Lily]

That's so cool.

[Josh]

What is your order usually?

[Jake Hutchinson]

Usually chicken tikka masala, but I do the buffet because you would think I would know everything about Indian food. I don't. I just can see it visually, and I'm like, I would like that. I don't know what the menu items are really, so I just do chicken tikka masala and pakura. Onion pakura. Oh, I like those. I like saying that word too.

[Andrew]

It's a very beautiful word.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yeah.

[Lily]

I love Indian food. I think it. When it's either Mexican or Indian food is my favorite.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I like Mexican too.

[Andrew]

That was my first time out here.

[Lily]

We have Shiva.

[Andrew]

But really, Indian food, like, at restaurant. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. It was delicious. It was awesome.

[Josh]

Speaking of Indian food, Jake, would you. Would you like a song?

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yes, please. I would love that.

[Josh]

Lily, would you?

[Lily]

Yes.

[Josh]

All right.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I'm so Excited.

[Lily]

Have you ever seen the show? Do you know that they do this and stuff? Okay. I cannot believe when they do it in front of a guest, and I'm like, so brave.

[Ethan]

I was petrified in front of Under Oath last week. I learned to play guitar, like stealing from Tim A.

[Josh]

So, yeah, I had, like, a panic attack right before doing the Under Oath song.

[Andrew]

Yeah, it's a lot of pressure, but it worked out.

[Josh]

It was perfect. It was a perfect song.

[Andrew]

Hey, you did great, pal.

[Josh]

It was good for me, you know?

[Andrew]

It was good for you.

[Lily]

Take your headphones off. You can't. You can only hear them singing. You can't hear the music with it. And so I always think about the people at Pies by the Door that are like, just listening to you guys, like, literally acapella this song.

[Josh]

No one's ever commented on it.

[Ethan]

That makes it worse.

[Andrew]

And we know they worse. We know they hear it.

[Josh]

Oh, yeah.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I might do one headphone off just to hear that. What they experience.

[Ethan]

Please don't.

[Josh]

This is gonna be a weird one with headphones off.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I'll keep them on.

[Josh]

All right, ready? Here we go.

[Andrew]

Drinking clean water, it's good for walking down the street, it's good for you Sunlight on your skin, it's good for you Take your vitamins, it's good for ya Expanding your horizons, it's good for ya Meeting strangers, it's good for you Dipping in cold plunges, it's good for you Reading new books, it's good for you why would I do it? Cause it's good for you.

[Josh]

Left in.

[Andrew]

Surveillance, it's good for you Drinking Kool aid, it's good for you Trust the.

[Josh]

Government, it's good for you Marry a robot, it's good for you so many.

[Andrew]

Things happen for me Looking all around and it's all I see what shall I do? I think and wonder here's some more things to say Give all your data, it's good for you CIA, it's good.

[Jake Hutchinson]

For you Regime change is good for.

[Andrew]

You World War 3, it's good for.

[Jake Hutchinson]

You.

[Andrew]

World Players break. I really hope it happens because it has got for you.

[Lily]

Wow. Very good.

[Jake Hutchinson]

That was unreal. That was one of the best things I've ever been a part of. Thank you so much.

[Andrew]

That's a high praise, dude. That's high praise.

[Josh]

High praise.

[Jake Hutchinson]

That's crazy. I'm gonna listen to that every morning when I wake up. Especially mornings when I don't feel good.

[Andrew]

That's an original. So we'll put it on Spotify for It.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Oh, my God. Gosh, that was really good. Thank you guys so much. I'm honored and blessed. And that was. I love the part where you said, regime changes.

[Ethan]

Change.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I like that, dude.

[Josh]

Yeah, it's all fun. We have fun, right?

[Andrew]

Topical.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

We're having a good time.

[Josh]

Having a good time, but unfortunately, we have to get serious for a sec. Jake, you know, you've seen the podcast. You know our format a little bit. But before we can have fun, goof off, talk about the weird things. We have to. We have to get serious and talk about things that are. Could be hard.

[Andrew]

You're telling me, dude.

[Josh]

Yeah, they could be hard. But this is the journey we're on. We're. We're here with friends, new friends, lovers.

[Lily]

Watch it.

[Josh]

Can you say that? Yeah. I love her. So today's question, sitting by the View, sitting by a viewer. Do you love fish?

[Andrew]

Is Jake going first? Because I know my answer.

[Josh]

Just. Yeah, typically we do ladies first. But since we have a guest, we'll say, jake, do. Do you love fish, Jake?

[Andrew]

Okay, interesting. I mean, I would say yeah.

[Josh]

I mean, what would you. What would you say?

[Lily]

I would say yes.

[Andrew]

I would say yeah.

[Josh]

You say yes, Andrew.

[Andrew]

I mean, I would say yeah. I mean, for sure.

[Josh]

Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Lil, you said yes.

[Lily]

I say yes.

[Josh]

Jake says no. Jake, no.

[Ethan]

What do you. What do you.

[Josh]

What are you doing? What do you mean, no? Fish are beautiful creatures.

[Andrew]

I love them. Yeah, they're gorgeous. You learn a lot from. It's fun to fish.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I'm kind of surprised you guys asked me that. I met. We haven't met yet, but we've hung out before for, like, two hours. And, you know I'm all about positivity, and you're talking about fish, the multinational corporation, foreign institute for spreading hate.

[Andrew]

Fish. You love fish.

[Josh]

No, I agree.

[Andrew]

I agree with what I meant. We apologize. But. But Lily, on the other hand.

[Josh]

Lily.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I can't believe you would say that. Lily.

[Josh]

Lily agrees with the foreign initiative for spreading hate.

[Ethan]

She.

[Josh]

No, not agrees with it. She loves it. She loves it.

[Andrew]

Support.

[Josh]

Oh, my goodness.

[Lily]

You guys are bullies.

[Andrew]

Crazy. Listen, you told me we were gonna get him. What? No.

[Josh]

What do you mean, get him?

[Andrew]

We would get him on the podcast.

[Josh]

We never try to get anyone. Lil. Apparently, Lil just all she wants to do is spread hate. Am I right, Jake?

[Jake Hutchinson]

That's what it seems like so far. I mean, I know.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I don't know.

[Josh]

Golly. I'm sorry for her.

[Ethan]

It's weird.

[Josh]

I'm sorry.

[Ethan]

Yeah.

[Josh]

In this climate in this climate, with everything that's happening in this political climate.

[Andrew]

I thought it was my turn.

[Josh]

No, I don't know what you mean. Well, you put yourself there, unfortunately. Well, I guess you guys heard it here first. Sorry, Jake. Sorry, viewers. Apparently Lily loves a foreign initiative for spreading hate. I mean. Yeah.

[Andrew]

What do I show? I don't want to eat anymore.

[Josh]

Did I say ninja?

[Andrew]

I meant butterfly. The butterfly is no doubt one of God's most creatures. You were martial arts. Just kidding.

[Lily]

That is so mean, Josh.

[Andrew]

That was worth it, though, wasn't it?

[Josh]

Y.

[Andrew]

Great job, Jake.

[Ethan]

That was great acting.

[Andrew]

That was perfect.

[Jake Hutchinson]

That was fun.

[Lily]

As soon as you were, like, about to, I'm like, oh, no. They bamboozled me again.

[Ethan]

I was spaced out trying to fix levels and get past to me.

[Josh]

I was like, I know.

[Ethan]

Wait.

[Josh]

Eardrums.

[Ethan]

That's the problem with this thing is it doesn't. It doesn't hold a middle.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

This is so tasty.

[Andrew]

I haven't tried mine yet.

[Ethan]

Do it.

[Lily]

I have forgotten how much I love coconut. No, I am holding it perfectly.

[Andrew]

I got a pastry like it's a dip in Andy Chew tobacco. No, he just keeps food in his upper lip.

[Josh]

Was that Kodiak?

[Andrew]

Wintergreen.

[Josh]

Right, Wintergreen.

[Andrew]

Nope, nope.

[Josh]

Panda? Bono?

[Andrew]

The cosmic brownie up there.

[Josh]

Oh. So how are we, everyone?

[Andrew]

I'm pretty good.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

I like the song because we need to probably explain it. That's kind of your catchphrase right now.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

One of them. One of many, I'm sure.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yeah, it's good for you.

[Andrew]

Yeah, it's good for you. Jump in the water. It's good for you.

[Ethan]

Do you remember the first time you said it?

[Jake Hutchinson]

No, but that's, like, something I probably should know.

[Andrew]

Find the first one, and then you start clipping all of them.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I'll find the first one. And I. I do know, though, like, I don't say these things on purpose. I just say things and they come out of my mouth and I'm like, oh, I like that. And then I go with it. I don't plan it usually. Like, a lot of the stuff that's happened, I just say it and go with it. And it works.

[Ethan]

Yeah, a lot of it does.

[Andrew]

A lot of it is people also hearing it. And you may be like, that's maybe just a part of your vernacular you're used to. Right. And people pick it out and you're like, oh, that's good.

[Jake Hutchinson]

That too. And they comment on. I'm like, oh, I should keep going with this. Also, I have to tell you guys something.

[Lily]

Okay.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I'm like a scaredy cat one time, just so you know, for, like, the rest of this conversation.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jake Hutchinson]

When Pokemon Go came out, we went out to this local park in Altamont around dark, and we met this, like, CIA NASA guy, and he said he was going to send black trucks to our house. And then I watched, like, a dark web video that night, and I went home from our sleepover and slept with my mom for, like, three nights. So that's the kind of guy you're dealing with on this podcast.

[Lily]

Wait, you meant it like a. Like a. A CIA guy or something?

[Jake Hutchinson]

Allegedly. I don't know. He, like, opened up his trunk and showed us nothing. He's like, I can send five black trucks to your house right now.

[Andrew]

That guy's on a list for sure.

[Lily]

You met a crazy person in the park is what you mean.

[Andrew]

Probably scared you straight, though.

[Jake Hutchinson]

He did. He did. It was really scary.

[Andrew]

You're never gonna do anything wrong ever again.

[Lily]

Yeah, they do talk about scary stuff.

[Ethan]

We've talked about the Pokemon Go conspiracy already on here, right?

[Josh]

I believe so, yeah. Yeah.

[Ethan]

Do you hear that? They're using all of that data. They were using it to, like, map areas.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Really?

[Ethan]

Those basically like, Google cars, but people with their phones, like, taking pictures of everything. Oh, so they have a better 3D map.

[Jake Hutchinson]

That's what I always thought TikTok was that if they have. If they can track your location, that they could, like, track what floor you're on and where you are and just use everyone to make, like, a 3D map, too. But that's even better. So using your phone, so that makes more sense.

[Andrew]

Your conspiracy theory is completely capable of probably collecting all of those types of data, like, thinking of. So it's like. That's just different sellers right there. Yeah, that's genius. We should start doing that, man. When you start stealing people's data, it seems like a really good business.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Let me turn my phone off first.

[Josh]

Well, speaking of data, let's get into data. Crazy story. Okay, this crazy story. Have you guys ever heard of Skinny Bob?

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yes.

[Josh]

Have you?

[Jake Hutchinson]

I don't know why, but I have.

[Andrew]

Heard that name, Skinny Bob. I don't think I have.

[Lily]

No. I don't know.

[Josh]

It's insane. I just came across it yesterday, and it's been out for a while.

[Lily]

Is it scary? Sounds scary.

[Josh]

It's a little spooky.

[Andrew]

But did you see Skinny Bob last night?

[Josh]

So Skinny Bob was this random video posted by this channel, Ivan0135 on YouTube.

[Andrew]

Okay.

[Josh]

And this video was posted 11 years ago. No description. He put. He posted a total of four videos. But in this video, it is supposedly a collection of videos from. It says from 1942 to 1969 of interviewing an alien.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Dang.

[Andrew]

Okay.

[Josh]

Have you seen this?

[Lily]

I've heard about it.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Lily]

I can't tell you about it because I don't remember, but I. Yes, familiar.

[Josh]

But it's very mysterious. The crazy thing about this Ivan0135 dude, never monetize the videos.

[Ethan]

Yep.

[Josh]

Never came out and said who it was. Just did 4 videos 11 years ago and then just dropped off the face of the map. World, whatever it is.

[Andrew]

How many views do these videos have?

[Josh]

Like over half a million.

[Lily]

Wow.

[Josh]

And I'm going to show you the video, but at the beginning it says filtrate for declassification and disseminate. How do you say that? Dissemination, Dissemination. Dissemination through the Internet and media. 7 videotapes with material recorded between 1942 and 1960. 69. Material containing UFO incidents, recovery and study of extraterrestrial life forms. Due to the importance of these documents, maintain the autonomy of the sources. The video contains a sample edited fragments of videotape.05 tape. Duration 180 minutes. Total recorded duration 11 minute, 26 seconds. So I'm gonna send you the video now. And I want to preface. You're gonna see it and you're gonna be like, this already seems fake.

[Lily]

Okay.

[Josh]

So just keep that in mind. But I have something for that.

[Lily]

You guys need to be gentle with Jake.

[Ethan]

Do you need the.

[Andrew]

He's already scared.

[Jake Hutchinson]

My mom's home. I can go stay with her.

[Josh]

All right. I it to you guys.

[Lily]

Okay.

[Josh]

I'll tell you when to click it. Oh, wait, it's still sending.

[Jake Hutchinson]

What if there's an ad?

[Andrew]

Oh, yeah, that's true.

[Josh]

No, I. I screen recorded this.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Oh.

[Josh]

All right. Ready? Three. Nope, nope. Everyone got it?

[Lily]

I got it.

[Ethan]

Oh, I'm still on airplane.

[Josh]

All right. Three, two, one, go.

[Lily]

Oh, I've seen this review.

[Ethan]

So it's panning over this character right now.

[Lily]

I don't know about this.

[Ethan]

You guys, like, blink?

[Andrew]

Okay.

[Lily]

It's got to be like an animation.

[Josh]

Well, here's the thing. So you look at that and you think that does kind of look like it'd be CGI or something, right?

[Andrew]

Yeah, yeah.

[Josh]

It's been tested by studios, and it has not been discredited yet.

[Andrew]

Ever.

[Josh]

Ever.

[Lily]

Wow.

[Josh]

They said the way that it was filmed. Because it was filmed on, like, one of those old cameras. Yeah, they said it was completely accurate. With an old camera and the movements are accurate. They said even the technology in 2011 with creating a CGI like this would have been nearly impossible. Unless you worked for a big budget Hollywood film industry or something.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

But to this day no one's been able to discredit it.

[Andrew]

I'm. Dude, the look of them are so scary. Yeah, that's like the ones you. This is like one of the drawings from the Zimbabwe school.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Ethan]

Oh, that's. Look at the.

[Jake Hutchinson]

That.

[Ethan]

That gave him like jaw.

[Andrew]

Yeah, that's what like makes it the weirdest thing about it. I think that that's what makes the video so creepy to me.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Is the thing alive? Is he willingly let it video him.

[Josh]

Or it was like captured. Well, so there's. The theories are that. That it was a real government film and that it was. Dude, I went down a rabbit hole with this thing.

[Ethan]

I saw it in our YouTube history and then started watching probably all the same stuff you did.

[Josh]

Well, one, some believe that it's connected to the Majestic 12 group. I'm like, okay, well what's the Majestic 12 group? That's basically what we would call the like the Men in Black now.

[Andrew]

Okay.

[Josh]

Yeah, but it's a group of like CIA, like different division of that CIA government.

[Andrew]

Yeah, that just focuses on that.

[Josh]

Yeah, but it was like an old video. Some believe that was actually from the KGB too.

[Andrew]

Where's the original video? Is that the only.

[Josh]

That's the only place that it's located at, is on this YouTube. No one's taking credit for it either.

[Andrew]

Yeah, you think someone would, but maybe that was the whole thing. It's like I can't put my name on this, but I can put it out.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

And that's interesting. Do you believe in aliens, Jake?

[Jake Hutchinson]

I don't know. I've never seen one, but I've seen some weird stuff. So that could be alien esque.

[Andrew]

Never UFO or anything.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Potentially I saw something. Do you want me to tell you what it is? Okay, yeah. We were playing basketball one night late at like a local park in our town and the sky just like explodes. Something in the sky explodes and lights up the whole sky and the whole world like baby blue. The light was like baby blue and you could see everything. It was a dark night. But when this thing exploded, you could see all the houses on the streets, everything. And then it shot off and exploded again and lit up the whole sky brighter and then just disappear. Like nothing happened after that. And. And we never saw anything online about it, anything in the news. We thought about Going up and asking neighbors with a ring camera facing that way if they caught anything. But we didn't get that far. It was probably four years ago.

[Andrew]

Okay.

[Lily]

Wow.

[Andrew]

Golly.

[Jake Hutchinson]

That was.

[Andrew]

Yeah, that's what mess with you.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

That's such a weird thing.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Like, because does it give any more information on like what was it called? The 12.

[Josh]

So the Majestic 12. So I looked into that a little bit more. So the Majestic 12 is a top secret US government committee formed in 1947 by President Harry Truman to investigate and manage everything related to extraterrestrial contact, especially after the Roswell incident. It was comprised of 12 members, top military brass, scientists, intelligence officers. And the way that they found out about this Majestic 12 group supposedly was in 1984, a roll of 35 millimeter film was mysteriously mailed to a UFO researcher, Jamie Shindira. When developed, it revealed top secret documents allegedly briefing President Eisenhower, details about the formation of MJ12, mentions of alien bodies recovered, crash saucers in cover up operations.

[Lily]

Spooky.

[Andrew]

Who 12 members. Yeah, they're keeping it small.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Like they're like intentionally probably. But golly, that's just. I mean flick. That's a movie first of all.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Just about those 12 guys. But that's. I want it. Yeah. That we got to do a deep dive on. Have the beginning of CIA as well. Like because that's just like how do think. How does that not. I don't know. Was that public knowledge at that time, the group?

[Josh]

No. Yeah. The only way it was found out was in 1984 because of film was sent to a ufologist.

[Andrew]

That's scary.

[Lily]

Majestic too is so funny.

[Josh]

Like Majestic.

[Ethan]

The 12 is a weird part to me. It's like biblical.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Ethan]

Like have a crew of 12. But I saw, I saw that. One of the theories which I think is the most likely if it's not real is that it was somebody who was like in film school and they were like experimenting with like different methods. And so I started thinking like, what would I do if I were going to fake this? But before I get into it, like they've said like people far more experienced than me have like already tried to disprove this. All I can think is like, I wonder if it would work. Like if you were playing a video on a screen and then film that screen with the camera that they said use. I wonder if that would be like a workaround to like.

[Josh]

I think they would probably think of that.

[Ethan]

There's.

[Andrew]

Disprove it if this thing's being studied.

[Josh]

My thing is like the way it was like moving and stuff. You think it kind of looks fake. But also imagine seeing something that you've never seen before.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Like wouldn't it register in your head is like, oh well this has to be fake because you're observing for like little movements of like. Oh, that's probably CGI then.

[Andrew]

Yeah. You're looking at something. You're hoping. Well, your mind is like what's gonna make sense? What's relatable to our human being? Experience and like how humans move. But it's like, what if it's completely different other creatures?

[Ethan]

That's one of the arguments for. Is there like if this was just a kid like trying to get through an art school and like pass a project, he would have to have like an advanced and like an advanced knowledge of like the way that the muscles in the neck and the face move because it's all like anatomically like it's dead on. How balancing ahead would work and to.

[Andrew]

Not take credit for it is insane.

[Josh]

Yeah. You hear some of the supposed members of this majestic 12, please?

[Lily]

Yes, please.

[Josh]

We know one of them is Vannevar Bush and he's a name sounds which I think his grandfather Ayo, guy named Roscoe who's the first CIA director.

[Andrew]

Okay.

[Josh]

General Nathan Twinning, Air Force Dr. Donald Menzel, astronomer, possible NSA liaison. And then it says several high level military and scientific personnel tied to the Manhattan Project.

[Lily]

Oh wait, remind me, what's the Manhattan Project?

[Josh]

The bomb, Oppenheimer.

[Andrew]

Oh, the bomb.

[Lily]

That's the important bomb.

[Josh]

Killian.

[Lily]

That's all.

[Andrew]

Oh, yes, of course. How could I forget?

[Ethan]

Which would be why they showed up.

[Lily]

Yeah, I know.

[Andrew]

This is super crazy. We got to keep looking into this. What? I mean, like, what other things did they cover, you know, and take care of? That's what maybe that'd be.

[Josh]

I didn't look too far. I just was looking at a connection.

[Andrew]

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Like what they did on, you know, if they were involved in the other projects.

[Josh]

I mean it goes with Jesse Michaels American Alchemy. He, you know Jesse Michaels American Alchemy? He's the best.

[Andrew]

He was just on Rogan. He's great.

[Josh]

Yeah. But I mean, he said we've been doing this UFO research and recovery missions and stuff like that since like, since Roswell or even before that. It's like.

[Ethan]

That's so weird.

[Andrew]

Yeah. That's a lot of time and money and energy being spent on something that's not real.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

It's kind of strange. I haven't like, completely confirmed, you know.

[Lily]

It'S like, kind of stinks. One of the reasons why this whole World War Three stinks. It's because it's gonna, like, completely push out any alien news or anything about the aliens anymore. Low priority.

[Josh]

Or it's gonna usher in the aliens. Oh, because if it's gonna be nuclear, they're like, no, do it, dude.

[Jake Hutchinson]

That.

[Andrew]

Honestly, I haven't thought about that part about it. Like, that's just been. That was such a big boom after.

[Josh]

Well, think about it just in the context of, like, we've talked about before, if World War three does lead to, like, ushering in the Antichrist or something, you know? Like, what if the Antichrist is someone that is from not Earth.

[Lily]

Extraterrestrial.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

I mean, that'd be convincing. That'd be the one way to get everyone on board is if something came down, another creature, and, like, obviously had enough power to wipe out our planet, but chose not to. I mean, that would be crazy. But that would be. I mean, that would. That would be a doable thing. I would hope Bruce Willis would come back and save us.

[Josh]

I'm predicting it.

[Andrew]

Okay.

[Josh]

I call it I got caught.

[Andrew]

Dibs.

[Josh]

Dibs. Crazy.

[Andrew]

I know, man. I've never seen Independence Day, but I feel like I need to watch it.

[Lily]

Oh, dude, you've got to watch it.

[Andrew]

I can't.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I think that's kind of crazy. No.

[Andrew]

What?

[Jake Hutchinson]

I haven't seen anything.

[Andrew]

Wanna have a sleepover?

[Ethan]

Sure.

[Josh]

Have you?

[Ethan]

No.

[Lily]

Are you guys kidding me?

[Josh]

I know you guys are the. Let's.

[Ethan]

Can we just establish that you guys are the minority here?

[Josh]

No, we're the majority of American.

[Andrew]

A lot of people are gonna be mad.

[Lily]

It was on vhs.

[Andrew]

Yeah, I've heard it's awesome.

[Josh]

Dude, it's amazing.

[Andrew]

I've heard it's great. I just haven't watched it because Jeff Goldblum's in it, right?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Will Smith is, like, the main guy.

[Andrew]

Yeah. He slaps.

[Jake Hutchinson]

What's vhs?

[Lily]

What's vhs?

[Jake Hutchinson]

I'm kidding.

[Josh]

Speaking of Will Smith, you guys hear his new song, we can't play it.

[Andrew]

Obvious.

[Lily]

But is it bad?

[Josh]

It's.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I saw it sped up and it was a little bit better.

[Josh]

Was it? Yeah, he's like, head, shoulder, knees. And he says another word, derogatory term for certain people, for women. And then he goes, girls, I love pretty girls. And it's like, what are you doing?

[Andrew]

What are you doing? You're 50, man. Relax.

[Ethan]

Dude.

[Josh]

Is that I love pretty girls.

[Ethan]

Ninjas is, like, shaping culture.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Ethan]

He's following our lead.

[Josh]

Just making up a song on the spot.

[Andrew]

Record this.

[Lily]

He used to have a song. I can't remember the name of it, though, but my mom loved it. And it was good. My mom.

[Josh]

Oh, what was his famous.

[Lily]

She burned a CD with it on there.

[Andrew]

I remember. Oh, gosh. I mean, what was. Yeah, that was a. There was one. I remember.

[Josh]

Speaking of bad songs, Andy just showed me one of Kanye's new songs.

[Ethan]

Oh, no.

[Lily]

What's up?

[Josh]

Have you heard it?

[Jake Hutchinson]

Like, new. New, like, today or, like, this month?

[Ethan]

Like, we can't say the title of song on It's Hail from Bullish Mustache.

[Josh]

German dude.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I heard a little bit of the new album, and it was wild.

[Josh]

Dude.

[Ethan]

What are you going to accomplish, sir?

[Lily]

Oh, no, it's crazy.

[Andrew]

And that makes sense because he was getting, like, that. He dropped this new album because. Remember that he rented that, like, building downtown in California.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

And just had, like, posters of, like, crazy requirements and stuff. Like, basically, like, you're gonna be doing this, this, that. Like, I need people that are committed singers, whatever. And people would just be complaining because the noise would be all night long. You just hear chanting and screaming and rapping. Like, it was just. All night. He was just running this huge clinic in there. It's crazy.

[Josh]

It's so weird.

[Andrew]

He's. I mean, I don't. I don't even know, because the thing is, he's. I know he's smarter than we think he is, but I just don't know how crazy he is compared to how crazy we think he is.

[Ethan]

So what you're telling me is I have, like, probably miss the window on selling my Yeezy collection.

[Josh]

Probably.

[Ethan]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Or it's gonna go for more now or.

[Josh]

Yeah. To a very specific group of.

[Andrew]

Yeah, I'll play the highest dollar. Okay, Relax. But I don't feel good about this money.

[Josh]

I love your shoes. Yeezys?

[Andrew]

Yes, please. I'll take two.

[Josh]

Yeah, alien stuff. I got more alien stuff, but I'll save it for a little bit later.

[Andrew]

Okay.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

That's beautiful.

[Lily]

I want to talk about Jake. Jump Per Day series.

[Andrew]

Break down the jpd.

[Lily]

What? Well, okay. Yeah, go ahead. Do that.

[Andrew]

No, I didn't mean interrupt.

[Lily]

Oh, no, I was. Okay. No, it's important that we set it up.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Okay, so Jumps Per day, abbreviated jpd, is jumps in the water. And it's a sort of scientific scale and chart thing that scientists came up with a long time ago where it's how many times you jump in the water per week. So if you jump in one day out of seven. I'm not good at fractions anymore, but whatever. One divided by seven would be point, whatever. That's your JPD. If you jump in seven days in a row, seven of seven days, you're at a 1.0 JPD. And scientists found that it's very healthy to be in water. It calms you. You just relax and you get out of your own head. And I just found out about the chart scale rating and capitalized on it and brought it to the people of Instagram and Tick tock.

[Ethan]

That's awesome. So what are.

[Josh]

What's your current.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Current JPD is what is today Thursday? I'm at a 0.25, unfortunately. But I'm going to Lake Tahoe next week and it's going to be like A over 1.0. I jump in the water three times a day there. So yeah, it's going to be unreal.

[Andrew]

Does it reset after?

[Jake Hutchinson]

It's like sessions per day. So if you. If you go jump in with Kaiva Springs and then you go home, then you go jump in your pool. That's two points for you for that day. So if it's Monday and that happens, you're at a 2.0 JP, start the week and that's a great way to start a week.

[Andrew]

Sounds like it. I'm low.

[Josh]

Lake Tahoe. What are you doing at Lake Tahoe?

[Jake Hutchinson]

Just living life.

[Lily]

Are you going by yourself? Are you going to the family?

[Jake Hutchinson]

My. Sorry. Yeah. That was crazy. Let me. I'll explain.

[Josh]

That was great.

[Jake Hutchinson]

My aunt has a place there and it's like just the best place on earth. The water's so clear.

[Lily]

Oh, man.

[Jake Hutchinson]

It's such fresh air. You're at a high altitude and all you want to do is just live life and breathe and smile and it's amazing. I never want to leave.

[Josh]

That's so rad.

[Andrew]

What are some your favorite jumps?

[Lily]

That's my question. Was gonna be.

[Andrew]

Yeah, like top three jumps.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Okay. There's a place called Angora Falls and it's a hike to get. You have to drive probably 30 minutes. You drive over this huge ridge that's like scary to drive over. And you definitely die if you made like a little bit of a wrong turn and then you hike up like two miles and then you swim across this lake. That's like 200 yards. Climb up a big mountain and jump off this huge cliff. And it's the biggest jump I've ever done. And I was frightened.

[Andrew]

How many?

[Jake Hutchinson]

Fifteen.

[Andrew]

Fifteen?

[Josh]

That's pretty high. The rock we did was, like, not laughing at.

[Ethan]

Just the way you said 15.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I know. I'm a. I'm. I'm a scared. I don't know what I'm saying. I'm scared of fights. That's what I was trying to say.

[Andrew]

That's good.

[Jake Hutchinson]

But that was good for me.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Where is that in the world?

[Jake Hutchinson]

Like, Tahoe.

[Lily]

Oh, okay.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Oh, sorry. That's in Lake Tahoe. Angora Falls. And, like, it's, like, right outside of Lake Tahoe.

[Lily]

Oh, very cool.

[Ethan]

That should count for more than one jump.

[Lily]

Where's Lake Tahoe? Colorado.

[Josh]

No, it's California.

[Andrew]

Nevada.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

California area.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Second deepest lake in the world. Wait, country.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Put your goggles on and look at the bottom.

[Jake Hutchinson]

You can't. You just see, like, sparklies. Blue, sparkly.

[Josh]

They don't know what's on the bottom of Lake Tahoe. They've never been able to explore it.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Really?

[Josh]

Yeah. There's, like, one dude recently who, like, built, like, a submarine that's, like, attached to these long cables, and supposedly he's gonna be the first one to try to explore it.

[Andrew]

No way.

[Josh]

But no one's been able to look at the bottom.

[Lily]

There's gonna be dinosaurs.

[Andrew]

That's crazy. We talk about the ocean, but we haven't even discovered all the lakes in our own country.

[Josh]

We're talking about going to Mars.

[Andrew]

We just had one of the biggest rockets in the world explode in Texas for SpaceX, and yet we can't get to the bottom of Lake Tahoe.

[Josh]

I don't know if that's probably a good comparison.

[Andrew]

We're going up. Quitspetamont would go up. We go down. Yeah, that's crazy.

[Josh]

There's creepy stuff down there, though, dude, for sure.

[Jake Hutchinson]

It's probably a crater lake, right?

[Josh]

Yeah, probably.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Probably insane stuff down there. It could be a dinosaur right there. Yeah.

[Lily]

Pond Springs, where we're. The Pancake house.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Oh, yeah. Deleon Springs.

[Lily]

Yes.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I love that place.

[Lily]

And you. Yeah, it is daily on, isn't it? But you put your goggles on and you look down at the bottom and you're like, I am an ant in this. Ginormous.

[Ethan]

I don't think there's anything scarier than being in water and having no ability to see what's in front of you.

[Lily]

You.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I don't like that.

[Ethan]

It's the worst.

[Andrew]

We went.

[Ethan]

We went spearfishing back home and, like, the tide turned and I couldn't. I couldn't see in front of me. And a dolphin cruised by.

[Jake Hutchinson]

But it.

[Ethan]

I mean.

[Lily]

Oh, yeah.

[Ethan]

Like, closer Than me to you. And then a full dolphin just.

[Lily]

I would tell you my heart would stop.

[Ethan]

Yeah. I was out the water. I was like, that's actually means I'm safer. But it was enough to, like, end the session. It terrified me.

[Lily]

It would be cool to be next to a dolphin, but to not know that you were next to a dolphin would be scary.

[Ethan]

See you.

[Josh]

Recently, I've been really afraid of dolphins for anything.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Really?

[Ethan]

No, they're literally for anything. We were. We were on a. I missed it.

[Andrew]

Like, she's like.

[Lily]

She's.

[Andrew]

Yeah, she's like, say what you said.

[Lily]

No, none of you. I'm not saying it.

[Andrew]

Basically, like, it'd be nice to be next to a dolphin, but you don't want to realize you're next to a dolphin because you'll be, or else it'll be scary. Like, oh, yeah. Like, there was a guy right next to you, but he didn't know the guy was right next to you. That's scary.

[Josh]

It's just a box of stuff.

[Andrew]

To think you're completely by yourself and then anything popping up. Terrifying.

[Lily]

Oh, my gosh.

[Josh]

No. Those dolphins, I don't. I don't trust them.

[Ethan]

They're too smart.

[Josh]

Yeah, dude.

[Ethan]

We were at the Destin Jetty, and our boat just got surrounded. It was, I mean, like, perfectly clear water. I had a GoPro. I was like, this is sick. I'm gonna jump in. Didn't put on goggles or anything, and I just jumped in because I'm like, this is gonna be a sick clip. And then I realized I'm in a pod of 20 dolphins and can't see below the surface. And, like, the panic that set in.

[Lily]

Oh, yeah.

[Ethan]

I, like, didn't want the guys on the boat. I was like, I'm coming back. Like, don't judge me.

[Lily]

Okay. What's your second favorite jump?

[Jake Hutchinson]

My second favorite jump is yesterday I went oyster farming on an oyster farm and jumped off the boat and just was in the water all day. I count that as a big jpd. And that was sick. And there was dolphins all around us the whole time, actually.

[Andrew]

You're grabbing oysters and stuff.

[Jake Hutchinson]

It's like an oyster farm. So he, like, has. He produces them and grows them, and you grab them out of the things, and then that's shock them and crack them.

[Andrew]

That's so cool.

[Ethan]

That's where I got it right.

[Josh]

It was fun.

[Jake Hutchinson]

It was really fun.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I love working my hands and being in the water, and that's like. I feel like that was, like, the last, like, Old school trade, not trade, but there's been no modern advancements. I don't know how to say what I'm trying to say, but there's nothing modern about it. You go out and you plant these oysters and you turn them over and you scrape the barnacles off and then you put them in your boat and sell them. It's like very rudimentary and awesome.

[Josh]

Shark bite oysters, right?

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yeah. Shark bot oysters in New Smyrna. It's so cool, bro. You never. You never think that's it. Just an oyster farm right here by Turtle Mound.

[Josh]

That's so cool.

[Jake Hutchinson]

It's awesome.

[Ethan]

And they're. They're freaking good.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Like, incredible.

[Ethan]

1921 was saying they get their oysters from them sometimes.

[Lily]

Oh, no way. Right on. And they have like the best oysters.

[Ethan]

They go back and forth between a place on the Gulf coast and then they supplement with shark bite. But that's who Taylor got his from. And then. Yeah, when I. When I got a ton of them, that's where I got them from too.

[Josh]

That's what we had for Mother's Day.

[Lily]

Oh, sick. They were delicious.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Jake, are you at east coast or a west coast of Florida?

[Jake Hutchinson]

Of Florida fellow. East coast. I've talked so much smack about the west coast all my life. Never going there. But then now I've been going lately and I love it. It's pretty cool. It's pretty unreal, but I love east coast. I'm from the east coast.

[Lily]

Are you really?

[Jake Hutchinson]

Well, no. Just grew up going to like Vilano and St. Augustine and New Smyrna.

[Lily]

Hold on. Yes.

[Jake Hutchinson]

What?

[Lily]

It's like my favorite place in the entire world. Well, you know something, though? If we weren't really talking about it, it's starting to turn into like a dirty pirate town.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Which place?

[Lily]

I went to Flagler College for a little bit.

[Jake Hutchinson]

We almost got shot in St. Augustine recently.

[Lily]

It's like a dirty cannonball. It's making me so sad because it was like the best place in the world. It was like, so cool. So fun hanging out there. Vilano, I love. That's where I would go to the beach all the time in college. And we still go to Crescent. We're going there like in two weeks or something. But it's like getting gross. It's turning like Gasparilla.

[Jake Hutchinson]

So touristy. It's disgusting. I don't like when anywhere where there's like a million people around who don't care. They're not from there.

[Lily]

Yeah, girls.

[Josh]

Serious.

[Lily]

But yeah, I did I like the Atlantic, but. And I used to talk so much trash about the Gulf because I just thought it was gross. And, you know, they get, like, red tide, which is, like, so gross. Yeah, but just, like.

[Andrew]

Just a bully to the east.

[Lily]

I know, but I'm really enjoying it now. Okay, what's your number one jump?

[Andrew]

Jump?

[Lily]

Oh, it's number three.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Number three jump, I think. I don't know.

[Lily]

Okay.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I'm not good at remembering things. Probably, like, Tahoe, like, going out in the middle of the lake and jumping in. It's just so. It's kind of scary. I don't like deep water, and I don't like water I can't see. Kind of like you. So it's a little bit frightening for me, but.

[Andrew]

What's the coldest water you've been in?

[Jake Hutchinson]

Lake Tahoe.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Jake Hutchinson]

It's like a mountain. It drips off. It comes off the mountains, the snow, and it's freezing, but it's amazing.

[Andrew]

You guys remember Montana? How scary that was? A little bit. Just how.

[Josh]

Oh, yeah.

[Andrew]

Getting on that lake. We went there in. What was it? It was July, but still there was just glacier.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Glacier water and just dark and cold.

[Lily]

Yeah. It's like there was gonna be a yeti or, like a sea monster coming out to get us. It was, like, so spooky. Okay. I have to hear this story because the boys were telling me, you know, I had mad FOMO about your guys's little lunch date.

[Andrew]

Oh, yeah. I forgot to invite you.

[Lily]

And it happens all the time. And they told me that you. I know you can't tell us where it is, but it's a private spring that somebody has that hits into the aquifer. Oh, my gosh. Did that not scare you?

[Jake Hutchinson]

It did not scare. I don't know. I didn't know that's what it was when I was there.

[Lily]

Oh, okay.

[Jake Hutchinson]

It's hard to see. There's, like, algae covering the top, but it's crystal clear under that. But I. I didn't. I wasn't aware of that. It would have freaked me out.

[Lily]

You jumped into algae?

[Jake Hutchinson]

I didn't jump in. I didn't get down there. It's hard to get. It's like a hundred yards straight, vertical down. I'm not vertical. You can get down there, but it's a task. Oh, people have died in there. Two people have died in there. One guy diving to explore it, the other guy trying to recover his body.

[Lily]

They both died?

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Gosh. Do you know if they recovered or they just.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I don't know that? That's a good question. So they just go down 600ft. That'd be tough.

[Ethan]

Way scarier.

[Lily]

Or they were still not sure.

[Andrew]

Probably that would not want to be the third guy. There's not a chance. It was like. So the guy before me, he also went in. Cool.

[Jake Hutchinson]

That's scary.

[Andrew]

Yeah, that's terrifying.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I didn't know any of that. But then I started repairing fishing rods for a guy. He was like a high level water guy for the state. And that sounds boring, but it's actually insanely interesting. He knows like everything about anything with water and all the spots and where they are. He told me all about it and some crazy stuff about water and lakes around here.

[Lily]

Well, I bet, like, your series is gonna get you access to some really cool spots. We have. I have a cousin that has a private spring on his property and.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Really?

[Lily]

But like, I mean, it's like by invitation, like, we're always like, hey, can.

[Josh]

We're never really, really invited.

[Lily]

And it's like the coolest place on planet Earth.

[Josh]

It's really cool.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Is it in Florida?

[Lily]

Yeah, not far from here.

[Josh]

Probably like 30 minutes from here.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Ethan]

He's gonna get an invite before you.

[Lily]

I know he probably will. And so I would be leveraging like, hey, I have this series and I would go everywhere because I bet you're just gonna see the coolest stuff. And I bet there's a million circumstances like that where it's like, I can't even imagine swimming in the aquifer. What the heck? And if you pee. Peeing in someone's drinking water.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I know.

[Andrew]

Yum. That's perfect. Have you ever jumped in Lake Apopka?

[Jake Hutchinson]

No, dude, I've never been. I heard it's coming back though. The fishing.

[Andrew]

Yeah. Josh has a strong history with that lake.

[Jake Hutchinson]

What is it?

[Andrew]

So you need to make that park jpd?

[Josh]

Maybe not.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Isn't it pretty like, like toxic chemically or what? It was, at least. And that's why I got.

[Josh]

It's because of my Grandpa Dang and other dudes.

[Jake Hutchinson]

What'd he do?

[Josh]

He had a farm.

[Lily]

If you've ever taken an environmental studies class, you've probably heard of it.

[Josh]

Yeah, probably like 1950s, 1960s. He had a farm around Lake Apopka. And there's no standard for like, dumping out chemicals, like how it could just ruin the earth.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And so they would literally just dump it on a run straight into Lake Apopka and became one of the most toxic lakes in Florida or something.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Dang.

[Lily]

Maybe in the world.

[Jake Hutchinson]

What was your farming?

[Josh]

Corn. Carrots, I think. Potatoes. Yeah.

[Andrew]

It's crazy. That's a while.

[Josh]

Yeah. My dad actually told me a story a couple weeks ago because we were talking about, like, root fires, you know, like root fires.

[Jake Hutchinson]

What's up?

[Josh]

So there's this dude in Louisiana, he had a stump, and he's like, I'm just going to burn the stump down. So he lit it on fire and he came out the next day and it like, wasn't on fire, but it was still like, smoking.

[Ethan]

Yeah.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Wow.

[Josh]

And look. And there's a hole underneath the stump, and the roots underneath the tree caught on fire. And that fire lasted for over six months. Like his whole yard. The ground was hot. And they said that's like a like super dangerous thing to happen. But that happened at my grandpa's farm where it was after the crop season. So it was just all the dead corn stalks and stuff like that. And it was like, super. Or as the bottom of a lake bed. I think that's what he said. That like, dried up and so it was all like the composite or what do you call it? Like just the organic material. And it caught on fire in a little part, but they put it out and then it was like a week or so went by and it was like. It had to been like 50, 100 acres away. Some dude's house caught on fire and burnt down. They discovered that this whole parcel of 100 acres, it just spread underground, was just fire underneath the soil. How it was just spreading out.

[Andrew]

Isn't that crazy that, like, we have such a hard time starting a fire camping because it doesn't have enough oxygen or something, but it could be underground, just. Just thriving?

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Crazy.

[Jake Hutchinson]

How does.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Yeah. I don't get it.

[Jake Hutchinson]

How's that? How does it get oxygen? Is there oxygen in the dirt or is there, like oxygen coming from the ground? And somehow I have no.

[Josh]

I couldn't populating, but I just know it happens.

[Jake Hutchinson]

That's really cool. I want to see a video of that or see it or. Or try one.

[Josh]

I'll have to find that video of the. The root fire because it's nuts.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

It's literally like it looks like hell. Like you look at all, it's just like. Like fire.

[Andrew]

Veins of fire.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Gosh, man, that's wild.

[Josh]

Speaking of hell, though, do you know that we got an ad?

[Andrew]

Don't go anywhere. I had no idea that they were dinosaurs. Hey, guys, it's back to school season. People are going back to church. They're ramping up their Fall campaigns for maybe their business or a corporation. And you need shirts. Let's be honest with yourself. You need stickers to promote your business, to promote your brand. So what are you doing? What are you waiting on? Go to sundaycool.com. we print your shirts, and we print your stickers, and we do everything you can to promote your business. We do it here in Central Florida. So I'm begging you.

[Ethan]

Please.

[Andrew]

I'm not doing a bit for the podcast. I'm just. I want you to be here with us and with me, and I want you to choose me.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Choose.

[Andrew]

Choose Sunday Cool.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Choose Sunday Cool.

[Andrew]

I love you.

[Jake Hutchinson]

He loves you. He misses you.

[Andrew]

And he loves you.

[Jake Hutchinson]

And he misses you.

[Andrew]

Oh, Sunday.

[Ethan]

Emotional.

[Andrew]

So here's a gong.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I want to do Robin Hood stuff. I want to steal from, like, bad rich people and give it to really good people who just don't have richness.

[Josh]

Do it.

[Andrew]

You need to go because you're trying to, like, you're just sitting a space where people, like, marketing and stuff like that. You just get. Find a company that's really corrupt and just say, listen, I love what y' all do, and then let them pay you get the contract so it works out, and then just drop all the tea on them or just, like, give it away for free. Just break. Break their heart somehow.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I like that.

[Andrew]

But stick it to the man somehow.

[Jake Hutchinson]

And it's been more than I need to like, like, remember. And now you see me that movie where they had that billionaire thinking they were on his team, and then he screwed everyone over in New Orleans and Katrina, and they're like, oh, wait, your bank account is now in everybody in the crowd's bank account. That's some stuff I want to do.

[Josh]

Yeah, more like that being a nice.

[Andrew]

See me.

[Josh]

Did you hear about that dude from Florida who, for. It was like, what was it, 10 or 20 years? He faked being a flight attendant and flew, like, over, like, 200 fake flights. Yeah, real flight. Real flights for free.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Oh, wait, I thought attendant or a pilot?

[Josh]

Flight attendant.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Okay, okay. I thought. You're saying pilot like, he faked being a pilot. No, it's not a movie.

[Andrew]

Catch me if you can.

[Josh]

Yeah. What did I say?

[Andrew]

No, you're right.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I just misheard.

[Andrew]

You're good.

[Josh]

Flubber.

[Andrew]

Yes. Robin Williams.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Bebop.

[Lily]

That's so funny.

[Josh]

But he was finally caught.

[Andrew]

That's correct. I mean, that's amazing. How do you do that?

[Josh]

He just. He found their code numbers or whatever. Yeah, he probably was, like, taking pictures of them or something. You Print out his own badge, bought the uniforms and just did with different air companies.

[Andrew]

That is. I mean, how do you. I mean, we get so scared about going on planes and link stuff like pull that off. Yeah, that's great. 200 flights. Yeah, it's wild. Golly. I do it. I just had something. Oh, the Karen Reed trial.

[Lily]

What's up? What's going on?

[Andrew]

Remember we talked about that?

[Lily]

Yeah, I can't remember anything.

[Andrew]

Okay. I can't. Wait.

[Josh]

Preface or like, explain what happened.

[Andrew]

I think that's the thing I want to do. I'll do a deep dive on it and pitch the whole thing because it's gonna be great. It'll be a HBO documentary one day. Yeah, but I mean, long story short, basically, this wife's husband, Karen, her husband was found out in the cold after like going to a friend's party and she was accused of running him over and leaving him out there to die. And she. That was in 2023. They just had the verdict yesterday. But there's been so, so many types of corruption and lies within the own. Their own police department. Because the people in the house, I'm pretty sure they were police officers. And one guy was a trained MMA fighter. The guy had dog bites on him. They had rottweilers inside. But Karen left before any of that happened. They. She left her husband at this party. I don't know if there was a fight or something. Once again, I'm going to dive into it, but she was just found not guilty on all charges except for the dui, which is. People are saying this is the most expensive DUI case in American history.

[Josh]

That's crazy.

[Lily]

Okay, so like they're insinuating that his friends killed him?

[Andrew]

Yeah, I mean, there's a huge cover up. I mean like one of the ladies inside the house at two o' clock in the morning tech and searched on Google how long to die in cold. So that. So the theory is there's some type of drunken fight or something happened inside the house and they had to do something. So they went out, laid the body out.

[Josh]

Why would that just be immediate proof?

[Andrew]

Dude, I don't know, man. It's like. It's like Casey Anthony. She was looking up like the ingredients to chloroform, but they didn't check that certain web browser. Yeah, it's in her search history and.

[Lily]

It'S like, you know, what are we doing? Is they. It took them so long to find that because they were looking under like typical search engines like Google and stuff like that. But she had used Firefox.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Oh.

[Lily]

And they never checked her Firefox.

[Andrew]

It was crazy, man. But, yeah. So Karen Reed's completely not guilty. And I can't imagine what's gonna happen now to the police department. Like, what's gonna happen? It's gonna be crazy. This was a huge trial. I can't imagine me, like, losing your husband. And immediately for the next two and.

[Lily]

A half years, like, being accused.

[Andrew]

Being accused and being in court, spending millions of dollars being ridiculed. I mean, that's crazy.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Where did it happen? Like, a small town.

[Andrew]

Minnesota. Yeah. There's a. I think. I can't remember what the city ended, though I will do a deep dive because they did a. They unfortunately dropped that documentary in the middle of the case.

[Lily]

Well, that's a. It's insane that that's happening. We have to have some regulations. This is crazy. That reminds me of that show that came out not too long ago. We were talking about it. We talked about on the show, but it was like, there was, like, a kidnapping. And they're, like, convinced that the boyfriend did it. And then he's like, no, I think that maybe she's faking it or something like that. But then she. The whole time, she. I was actually kidnapped.

[Josh]

It was like an American nightmare.

[Andrew]

Yes.

[Lily]

So it's like they were telling the truth the whole time. But everybody just, like, looks to, you.

[Andrew]

Know, even the viewers as a viewer. I was just like, there's no. I know.

[Lily]

I know.

[Andrew]

There's no way. This isn't a lie. It was so wild, man.

[Josh]

Speaking of lies.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Clearly, when the questions.

[Andrew]

Are fresh on her mind, what'd you.

[Josh]

Think I was gonna do?

[Andrew]

I have no. I thought you're transitioning into a story. I forgot about the question.

[Lily]

That was not good. Okay. Would you rather be perpetually terrorized by a fly all the time in your sleep all the time, or always have a couple really itchy bug bites?

[Andrew]

Bites.

[Josh]

Ooh.

[Ethan]

Both are terrible.

[Andrew]

And there's nothing you could do about the itch.

[Lily]

Might take a bath first.

[Andrew]

I'll go. Bites.

[Lily]

Momentary relief.

[Andrew]

I hate bugs where they're not needed.

[Ethan]

See, I think. I think you'll eventually, like, lose that, though. You know what I mean?

[Andrew]

She said perpetually terror.

[Josh]

Or it might drive you insane.

[Andrew]

Those are very specific words.

[Ethan]

So. So I have to be in terror.

[Andrew]

I mean, that's what it says.

[Lily]

I assume that it never leaves you. It never leaves you yet. Maybe you can grow custom. It depends on how strong your psyche is.

[Ethan]

But think about, like, people live in, like, places where Mosquitoes just perpetually exist.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Ethan]

Eventually it's normal and it doesn't bother.

[Lily]

You, but they're able to smush them.

[Josh]

Yeah. Yeah, that's right. That's true, though. You do see, like, those videos of, like, under blankets, the Amazon. And there's just, like, bugs, like. Yeah. On their face. And they're just like this.

[Andrew]

I know the Brody Moss guy. He'll be covered, like, in mosquitoes on the beach. Just like, just talking. He's like, your mouth's fully open. I'm like, dude, close your mouth, bro.

[Ethan]

Yeah.

[Lily]

And it's a fly. It's not a mosquito. So you're not getting.

[Ethan]

I'm taking the fly.

[Josh]

If it was a mosquito, I'd be way worse.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Does it ever land on you, though, or just fly around you like a halo?

[Lily]

I bet it can land on you. And my fear would be that it would go in my ear.

[Andrew]

Let's think. Because you have so many. You have so many spots where it's going to annoy you. Like, when they get close to your eye, nose, ear, everything.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Constantly. You just know.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Under your blanket. It finds you.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

How many bug bites?

[Lily]

Like, a couple.

[Josh]

Where?

[Lily]

You can pick.

[Andrew]

Why did I pick this area?

[Josh]

Yeah, Bug bites.

[Lily]

I kind of always have mosquito bites, so I'm probably picking the mosquito bite.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Me, too.

[Andrew]

I've had psoriasis for a long time, so I can. I think I can handle some bug bites.

[Josh]

Eggs?

[Andrew]

Eggs uncurable. Don't make fun of me.

[Josh]

Sorry.

[Lily]

That was my question.

[Josh]

Good. What was yours? Would you answer?

[Andrew]

Bug bites. Right.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I don't remember. I think bug bites. Yes.

[Ethan]

Left me hanging.

[Josh]

Bug bites. Dude. I saw this video on YouTube the other day. I don't know how it came across my. For you to watch.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

But it just said, Papa New Guinea War, 1960. Like, what? Dude, I clicked it. And it was literally just dudes in loincloths in Papua New guinea in the 60s having a tribal war with spears and bow and arrows.

[Ethan]

Oh, my God.

[Josh]

I'm like, what, am I watching a video of it? Yeah. I'm like, I guess I didn't compute that they were, like, tribesmen with tribal wars in the 60s.

[Lily]

That's so crazy.

[Josh]

They're not that far removed from, like.

[Andrew]

Yeah, Just in different civilizations.

[Josh]

Yeah, man.

[Andrew]

That'd be brutal to watch.

[Josh]

It was gnarly. The one dude got shot with an arrow in his chest. And so they had, like.

[Andrew]

There's actual footage of this.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Who filmed it?

[Josh]

It was a documentary guy from England.

[Jake Hutchinson]

That's Crazy.

[Andrew]

Just some hippie in the field.

[Ethan]

Just, whoa.

[Josh]

The camera was like, dude, I want to watch that.

[Andrew]

And also, that's make. That's right up your alley. I don't understand why you're confused.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Algorithm push.

[Josh]

I didn't think that would be on YouTube, though.

[Andrew]

Yeah, that's true.

[Josh]

But this one, dude, that was shot in the shoulder, they said, luckily it wasn't a barbed arrow and. But a piece of it broke off. And they said the. The local doctor, who's the best at fixing stuff, had to perform an operation or whatever, and all it was was him putting his mouth on the. Where he got bit. Yeah, he pulled out the arrow, bro. And you're just like, oh, my gosh. And so they had to carry him back, but when they carried him back to the village, they said they have to camouflage them. So they put them on, like, this, like, rack or what do you call it?

[Ethan]

Stretcher.

[Josh]

Stretcher. And they put, like, bushes over them. They said they do that because if you're injured on your way back, the ghosts and spirits will attack you.

[Ethan]

Like, this is the craziest thing.

[Lily]

So scary.

[Josh]

1960S.

[Andrew]

That's nuts. It's too recent.

[Josh]

My dad was born in 65, so it's like these dudes are shooting arrows at each other. My dad's like a baby.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Jake Hutchinson]

That's wild.

[Josh]

Nuts.

[Andrew]

Well, yeah. I mean, think about it just even, like, how, like, what was it the last beheading that happened, like, in France, like, wasn't that long ago.

[Josh]

The guillotine was still in use when Nintendo came out. Nintendo 64, I think, the other day.

[Andrew]

Hey, honey, pause your game. We're gonna go watch the beheading. Like, that's crazy.

[Josh]

Nuts.

[Andrew]

It's so wild. I mean, we're just not that far off, man.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Ethan]

Yeah.

[Josh]

I love those kind of videos, though.

[Ethan]

It's.

[Andrew]

Yeah. That. The ones that just completely shock you.

[Josh]

You're like, I don't think I've ever come across anything like this in my life.

[Lily]

It's so crazy. What, like, is allowed on the Internet, though. You remember that Dave Chappelle skit that he did where he's like, remember when ISIS was putting everything on YouTube? He's like, Obama, where this is a message to you. Cut somebody's head off and Dave Chappelle goes, dislike.

[Andrew]

It's crazy.

[Lily]

It's insane.

[Andrew]

It's also, like, nuts, that, like, videos like that. That Kanye west song is on, like, YouTube. But then. So yet we, like, mentioned some stuff.

[Josh]

On here, and we're like, you say 9 11. It's like, oh, demonetized.

[Andrew]

It's crazy.

[Jake Hutchinson]

That is kind of wild.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Like, the standard is so weird.

[Josh]

Speaking of. Oh, go ahead, you speak first. Of speaking of Wells is just 9 11.

[Andrew]

Yo, what's up with that?

[Josh]

Well, I saw that Tucker Carlson interviewed Alex Jones not too long ago. And Tucker asked him, he's like, how did you know or predict, I don't know if you knew this Alex Jones, basically. Do you know Alex Jones is he like, predicted 911, like to the T. He said it'll be the World Trade center and they'll blame it on Osama.

[Andrew]

Bin Laden months beforehand.

[Josh]

Months beforehand. He's like, how did you know that? And he's like. Well, he's like, it wasn't very hard to figure out. He's like, there's a spin off show of the X Files. And one of the episodes was literally that scenario.

[Lily]

Oh, my gosh.

[Josh]

And he says, and they didn't say Osama bin Laden, but they said a terrorist of this terrorist group in the Middle East. And he said, and they've been talking about Osama bin Laden for a while. So I just put two and two together. Like, it's gonna be the World Trade Center. It's gonna be Osama bin Laden.

[Andrew]

Interesting.

[Lily]

They. It was what Al Qaeda or something too had been talking about, specifically the World Trade Center. They had something against the World Trade Center.

[Josh]

Trade center, yeah. I don't know.

[Lily]

Wow, that's so interesting.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

I was wishing you would say I'm a wizard.

[Josh]

Pretty fascinating interview.

[Andrew]

Hey, he's got. He's looking good now too.

[Josh]

He is. He stopped drinking, he's eating healthy, he's working out.

[Andrew]

Good on you, Alex.

[Josh]

He was really calm, which was surprising because I think he's just. Lifestyle change.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

But like, he actually interrupted Tucker once. He's like. He's like, I'm so sorry, can you actually go back and what you said? I'm like, this is.

[Andrew]

I know. Everyone's freaking out. Like all that Tucker Carlson going with Ted Cruz on Tick Tock that's going viral. And everyone's like, I can't believe. Wait a minute, am I a fan of Tucker Carlson? It's crazy.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

It's just so funny how just like when you get out of certain environments. I know. Tucker was always Fox News or something.

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andrew]

And then Alex on whatever his platform was. It's just strange, man.

[Josh]

Tucker called Fox News Propaganda Machine the other day.

[Andrew]

Really?

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andrew]

I mean, he would know.

[Lily]

You've seen that for a while.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yeah, he's a fisherman.

[Josh]

Yes.

[Andrew]

You've seen that video of someone coming up to him while he's fishing? So fun.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I like that.

[Andrew]

You could definitely tell he was on guard at first. Like, the guy. He. Tucker definitely thought the guy was gonna come at him and, like, yeah, be crazy. But it was such a wholesome interaction.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I like that. Like, when I see, like, somebody like that doing a personable thing or something that you and I do, it's cool.

[Josh]

Do your best Tucker Carlson fishing impersonation.

[Andrew]

I'm sitting here outside the waters, and I'm wondering to myself, myself, do I use a fly, a crankbait, or possibly a spinner? Who knows?

[Jake Hutchinson]

That was really good.

[Andrew]

He talks in like that. Like, that's. That's old Tucker, though.

[Josh]

Yeah, I can't do new Tucker, dude. But I was listening to it in the gym, and one of his ads came on. It was about his alp patches, his, like, nicotine patches. And he's. There's, like, nothing said it was just audio, like, so I wasn't watching the videos that now's a good time to open the out patch. And you just hear. He goes. And that was the end of that. I'm like, that was so hard to listen to. I'm going like this.

[Andrew]

But now you're talking about.

[Ethan]

I was about to say, it worked.

[Andrew]

It worked.

[Ethan]

It stuck with you.

[Josh]

I'll never forget it.

[Andrew]

You're just gonna wake up in the middle of the night just for an out patch. Out patch. Not sponsored.

[Josh]

Hey, do you got a reel?

[Ethan]

I sent them. They're already there. I got two.

[Josh]

Can do a little beat or something.

[Ethan]

Yeah, here we go.

[Lily]

It's not playing in my headphones. All right, make one.

[Josh]

She's got a real.

[Andrew]

Gonna show us right now.

[Josh]

Right now, right now.

[Lily]

That was great, you guys.

[Ethan]

Terrible on my part.

[Josh]

That was great.

[Lily]

Okay, let's watch this.

[Ethan]

All right, start out with the boat. I. This is the end of a friendship for me. If someone. And if there's language in it, I'll bleep it. But if. If I'm with a homie and they decide to do this, literally, friendship over.

[Josh]

Are you ready? Yep. 3, 2, 1.

[Ethan]

It's a water spout. The dudes like, how close, dude.

[Josh]

I would do the same thing, though.

[Andrew]

I would have gone straight through. Yeah, there's no chance, bro.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yeah. That looks sick.

[Lily]

What. What happens to you? It won't lift you up, will it?

[Ethan]

Yeah, I've watched a water spout or I haven't watched a clip of water spout. My hometown. Take the roof off a hotel.

[Andrew]

Oh, my God.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

I bet if you're going real fast, it would take you out. I don't want to find that slow. I would. 100. I'm like, you have to put a.

[Josh]

Life jacket on and just go.

[Andrew]

Hope for the best, baby. Dude, just look up. You're 40ft above me. This Charlie the chocolate Factory. Just.

[Ethan]

So this next one's for you. I know you're a fish guy.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Okay.

[Ethan]

I'm. I never want to see a cuttlefish in the wild. This is the scariest looking alien thing I've ever seen in my life.

[Josh]

All right, ready? 3, 2, 1.

[Jake Hutchinson]

What the. Looks like an African mask, dude.

[Ethan]

It does.

[Lily]

Literally.

[Josh]

The music.

[Andrew]

That does not look very cuddly at all.

[Ethan]

Yeah, I. I don't.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Oh, now it looks like a diva with those eyelashes.

[Josh]

Is that not terrifying?

[Ethan]

That looks like a face, like a floating head, dude. It does.

[Andrew]

That's crazy, like, intimidation stuff right there.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

How moths have that. Oh, man. That's crazy.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I've never caught one of those.

[Ethan]

Yeah, I don't want to, too.

[Andrew]

Just put your foot in your water, dude.

[Ethan]

I've eaten my share, but I don't want to catch one.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Eat one of those.

[Ethan]

Yeah.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Really?

[Ethan]

Cuttlefish. Is that normal in Hawaii? It is.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Oh, cool.

[Andrew]

Didn't we have some on the dried.

[Ethan]

Yep.

[Andrew]

Yeah, we had some. Yeah.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

It was not great, I don't think. As far as I remember, I didn't like.

[Ethan]

It's the best. No, you hated it. You loved it because it reminded you of something from Korea.

[Josh]

Yeah. South Korea.

[Andrew]

South. South Korea.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Did you live there or just go there?

[Josh]

I lived there for, like. Was it like, three months or something?

[Andrew]

He was an English teacher.

[Jake Hutchinson]

That's awesome. My friend did that too.

[Josh]

I didn't know I was gonna be.

[Ethan]

A teacher, but it was against his.

[Andrew]

Will, literally, a little bit.

[Josh]

I was gonna be a camp counselor, and they're like, can you teach grammar? I'm like, no, I'm very good.

[Andrew]

Thank you.

[Josh]

I'm really uneducated in this.

[Andrew]

Kids just get pushed in front of 60 kids.

[Josh]

I literally just had the kid because then I had a whole classroom. And they're like, yeah, he's actually not a good teacher. And so they're like, take this one kid. Just tutor him. He speaks zero English. Just teach him English. I'm like, all right.

[Andrew]

And then he'll teach everyone else.

[Josh]

And then so I just. I would put on Bill Nye, a science guy for him. I'm like, this is English. And science.

[Andrew]

They just walk in. You're playing Dora the explorer. They're like, this is even close, man.

[Josh]

This is the wrong Spanish.

[Ethan]

Before English.

[Jake Hutchinson]

English, not Spanish.

[Josh]

That kid hated me, though. I was trying to. Because he just didn't. Well, his life was pretty miserable, too, so, like, there was just so strict with education. A lot of Asian culture is, I would say. But during the summers, he would be in South Korea. Parents sent him to school to me.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And then during the school year, he's actually sent to China to learn to go to school in China.

[Andrew]

He's just away.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Constantly.

[Josh]

So just constant learning. And so you just got this dumb American white kid being like, you want.

[Andrew]

To watch Bill Nye slowing down your.

[Josh]

I'd be stoked, though.

[Ethan]

You know what? This kid. This kid is literally, like, trying to tell his parents the guy's an idiot. It's not helpful.

[Josh]

No, he's American, but they teach you.

[Ethan]

But then now they're all like, family dinner. He's looking at his phone. He's like, that's him.

[Andrew]

That's the guy.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

As you're stumbling through your words.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

This guy doesn't even know English.

[Josh]

I can't pronounce anything to save my life. I told you, grammar's not my thing.

[Ethan]

Why? Your English no good?

[Josh]

Yeah. Oh, I was just gonna say there's also the other time in South Korea where they're, like, the people that own the school. They're like, this company that's above us in the building. They own a scuba company, and if you teach them English, they'll give you a scuba license.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Cool.

[Josh]

I'm like, okay, dope. I'm like, can you, like, use it, like, out of South Korea? Because, like. Like, we're not going to the ocean anytime soon. Like, no. Just for South Korea. Like. Okay, well, then I probably won't do it.

[Andrew]

That's a great thing on your resume, though. Yeah.

[Josh]

South Korean scuba license.

[Andrew]

Yeah. I mean, just in case. It's a great opener.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Can you send me the name of that location? I'm going.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Are you really November for.

[Josh]

Are you really?

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yeah. If you got any wrecks besides that.

[Josh]

Dude, he should help me find Jiho.

[Lily]

You're on a mission?

[Jake Hutchinson]

Who's Jiho?

[Josh]

Is my buddy from high school. He listened to. Lives in South Korea now. But I. There's no way to get a hold of them.

[Jake Hutchinson]

That would be so fun. I just go there and do a whole series. Finding Jiho, dude, please. Every day.

[Josh]

Let's do it. We'll set it up.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I Would love that.

[Andrew]

You could probably get his brother, right? Find an address or something.

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Either one or three weeks.

[Lily]

Oh, my gosh.

[Josh]

In Seoul.

[Andrew]

Yourself.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Okay. Yes.

[Jake Hutchinson]

With a like friends in their whole wedding.

[Andrew]

That's awesome.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Be cool. We're going to Korea and then Japan, I think.

[Lily]

Oh, my gosh. Do you do a lot of international travel?

[Jake Hutchinson]

I don't even have a passport yet.

[Lily]

Wow.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yeah. So I would like to.

[Ethan]

You gonna do any bass fishing in Japan?

[Jake Hutchinson]

I didn't think about that, but I would be cool. I want to go to their tackle shops.

[Ethan]

They're gonna be like, I don't know what they are. I just watch all the like glide bait stuff.

[Jake Hutchinson]

They do a lot of stuff in America now is like coming from Japan.

[Ethan]

Yeah.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Getting so jdm. It's awesome.

[Ethan]

The Senko, they don't catch many fish.

[Jake Hutchinson]

So they catch like one fish per trip. I like catching like 35.

[Ethan]

Growing like 24 inch glide.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yeah, that's true. I would love to.

[Ethan]

Fishing segment of the show.

[Josh]

Fishing.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Welcome to the fishing segment.

[Andrew]

Fish.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Fishermen are butterflies.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Nice.

[Josh]

What was your question?

[Lily]

No, that was really it. That's what I was going to ask earlier was do you do a lot of international travel? What's your hot take on all the development in Florida?

[Ethan]

Let's go.

[Jake Hutchinson]

It just changed yesterday, actually, on the oyster farm, a the vice mayor of New Smyrna came out and a professor from Stetson and deland came out who's running for some sort of like ecological government thing in her territory. And just hearing them talk about like the inside of development and stuff, I was a little bit more. I'm not for development. I'm against development because it's like ruined places that I live. But it. It makes sense. Like smart development. I heard about there's a new place going in New Smyrna that's like a thousand units that nobody wanted. But four out of the five board officials or whatever government people said yes to it. And it will be. It would have been okay. But the company that's developing it has a history of like it being fine for a while and then just mass flooding starts happening in that neighborhood. And I'm like, dude, that's horrible. So that makes me think that maybe there is good developers and good development. That's okay. But I hate cookie cutter homes and terrible development and things that make my neighborhood flood now. That never used to flood.

[Lily]

But yeah.

[Ethan]

You've seen all this stuff with the 3 million acres.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Ethan]

With the public land being sold off.

[Jake Hutchinson]

My aunt sends me stuff about it every day. But I haven't looked at it yet. Only in spite of her being annoying me. But. But I. Sorry, Aunt Lily. I love you.

[Andrew]

They're sending bombs now. I don't care. I don't care.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I should look at it though. Tell me about it please, because I do want to know about it.

[Ethan]

So I watched a 10 minute video. There's a hunting channel I follow and I wish I remember what it is but I'll maybe tag them in post. But they were talking about it and I guess they put into the beautiful bill. I believe they put this permission to sell off. I think it's over 3 million acres of public land. But the, the reason they're doing it, they're saying that they're going to give back to the state. They're going to do affordable housing, like solve housing crisises with this. But then if you look further into it, I know that only 5% goes, according to this one video, only 5% goes back to the state. I forget the small percentage that goes to housing. But then it's like, it's like north of 80% goes to the Treasury. And so this entire thing, this entire sale, basically what they're doing is they're taking an asset that is appreciating and they're cashing out. Now it doesn't put a dent into the national economy just to just like quick cash. And so it literally it there, it makes zero sense. So somebody, because it doesn't make quick cash for the state, 5% of it, it's not going to do enough to solve problems. It's not enough to solve housing issues. Somebody's getting a fat chunk of this.

[Lily]

Oh my gosh.

[Ethan]

And it already got. Forgive my ignorance of American politics, but it already got denied at one level of government and then it was gone. But then I believe a senator pulled it back into the bill like through a back door and tried to like put language in that would allow this previous thing to be now made legal. So the only way to stop it, I believe is to contact your senators and just make noise about it. But I hate it.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Scream why would it go to the. Yeah, why the tr. Isn't that a private company and not like a government. That's what I've heard.

[Ethan]

I have Federal Reserve.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Okay.

[Ethan]

Not government. Okay. But yeah, the Treasury. This is a crazy story, but basically they need to quit spending. It's like, it's like if someone has a credit card, they've already maxed out the credit card and then they're gonna like, like they Want to sell something else of yours and they're like just to pay off 5% of the credit card. It's like. No, you never get that back.

[Josh]

About some fast food restaurants starting to do. To where you can do payment plans.

[Lily]

What?

[Josh]

What?

[Jake Hutchinson]

I hate that.

[Andrew]

But a Big Mac on layaway.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

That's crazy.

[Jake Hutchinson]

That was funny.

[Josh]

So. It's so messed up.

[Andrew]

What does that mean? Like a full.

[Josh]

Yeah, it's restaurants, they're starting to do payment. I think one of them was like. Like I'm not. Don't know. But it was like Outback Steakhouse, something like that.

[Lily]

Wow.

[Andrew]

So you can like say like I'm gonna pay like almost like the affirm or.

[Josh]

Exactly.

[Andrew]

Okay.

[Josh]

Where it's like 0% interest for the first year and then it's 20 plus percent interest.

[Andrew]

So you literally just put get on your phone mobile order on McDonald's or something.

[Josh]

You have payment plans on.

[Andrew]

It can literally have an option just to break up.

[Ethan]

Are you sure? Are we sure that's not like a. Like a person spinning an angle because of like if checkout just accepted all methods of payment like Apple pay and all that.

[Josh]

I'm just saying what I said that you can do payment plans on different restaurants now.

[Lily]

It's like the whole. You will own nothing and be happy.

[Josh]

Yeah. But it's not even your food, not even your stomach.

[Lily]

That's. I just ate. Great talk.

[Andrew]

We want it back. You just decline the payments. Like we want it back.

[Ethan]

Getting your assets repossessed. Like what'd you. What'd you run up a card on?

[Josh]

Repossess this.

[Andrew]

There are doordash orders that I'd be like, this would be nice that if I would have not pay this all in one chunk. It's crazy. It's crazy.

[Lily]

Yeah, yeah.

[Josh]

You order from like even McDonald's. They're like a hash browns.

[Andrew]

Like doesn't matter.

[Josh]

Six bucks doing.

[Andrew]

Yeah, it's wild.

[Josh]

I really want a hash brown.

[Andrew]

$6 worth.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Now I got an ad for one of the companies like that that lets you pay later or maybe it was like your paycheck sooner. And I started to think about how many ads I get for companies like that nowadays and how much I don't like that. It's like promoting you not doing good things and working hard for your money. Like yeah, you're. It's prideful to work really hard with your hands or your brain and make money and then use that to save it or spend it. And there's so many companies now that nowadays like forcing it down Our throats. No, it's okay. Just pay it later with a little bit of interest. You don't have the money. We'll buy it for you. That's horrible. That doesn't cheat. That doesn't teach anything good. It doesn't.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Jake Hutchinson]

You can't learn that way to save and have your own stuff and make your own money. It's gross.

[Lily]

I agree.

[Andrew]

If I. Their banks have those options now where you can, like, break up a payment that you've made in the past, like, month or so. You could break that up into four payments. And I'm like, if I had that when I was, like, in college, I would have literally never been able to have it because it just would have been, you know, you don't. You're supposed to struggle, like, if you need to. At that certain point, there's. That's good for you. Right? Like, that's literally something we, like, we had to go through and we learned a lot from it. And so. But if I have ever had the option to go back and, like, I mean, you just. You're just putting yourself in a hole constantly. I'm like, that's. It's so dangerous.

[Lily]

Yeah. Except for you did finance your dog.

[Andrew]

That was. We. Unbeknownst. Unbeknownst.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Dogs are good.

[Andrew]

I was very naive.

[Josh]

That's the craziest.

[Andrew]

It's the dumbest.

[Lily]

It was a learning lesson for you, though.

[Josh]

Yeah. What was the total.

[Andrew]

If I would have. If I wouldn't have realized what it was and how the percentage. 120% interest. Scammers, dude. Scammers. And it would have been $10,000 for a dog if we wouldn't have realized it at that time. So crazy.

[Jake Hutchinson]

So it was like, crazy four grand or five grand or. How much was it?

[Andrew]

Oh, I can't remember how much we spent all together, but it was just an absurd. I remember, like, it was like the. Like when. Because they're like, oh, first 90 days. Don't you ride it? Like, well, you know, you sign this stuff now we email the stuff, and it's just. You check a box. Electronic signature. Like, sure. Well, why not? And didn't realize how long it would be or whatever. And so it was a. Our first payment was $240 a month. And I said, wait a second. I'm paying $240 a month for a dog?

[Jake Hutchinson]

That's ridiculous.

[Andrew]

And now at that point, you're already emotionally attached to it. So we just had to get like. We literally were so dumb. Like, I mean, me specifically, it's just like when it came to any type of contracts or anything. And so when I had went to the bank in Texas, it was a small town bank, and they sat down and they looked at and they explained it all to me, and I literally was just dumbfounded of like, how screwed over I got. It was terrible.

[Ethan]

Have you. Have you ever done the math on how much dogs actually cost, though?

[Andrew]

We don't know.

[Ethan]

With Lilo, we. We bought a corgi thousand bucks, which is really cheap for a purebred corgi anyways, so. A thousand bucks. And we just hit a year that we've owned this dog. And so I added up the, like, vet appointments that it's cost, the food we get, like the flea medicine and stuff. I was like, oh, my gosh, this dog is costing me like over 200amonth.

[Lily]

For this first year she's OP.

[Ethan]

But like, I mean, think about it. Like. Yeah, I know. You just bought like a year's worth.

[Josh]

Of flea meds and.

[Lily]

Yeah, dude bothered to take our dogs to the vet, though. That's why we're like, trying to get everything in one in one go.

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah, that's. That's.

[Lily]

They're so expensive, dude, and it's a nightmare. Yeah.

[Josh]

So, Jake, do you have any conspiracy theories you want to talk about?

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yes, but I thought of something. During the Papua New guinea war part they talked about. Are there any American wars or battles that I don't know about and the mass public would not know about because they weren't in textbooks?

[Josh]

Oh, let me think.

[Jake Hutchinson]

That sounds interesting.

[Andrew]

Yeah, we've gotta. Had to have talked about some.

[Josh]

The Mormons would say that there was the.

[Lily]

Who?

[Josh]

The Mormons.

[Lily]

Oh, yeah, no, that's. What. Did you watch that show American Primeval on Netflix?

[Josh]

I'm talking about, like, the Book of Mormon. They had these whole battles in the Book of Mormon that were in America.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Oh, really? Yeah, one.

[Josh]

I mean, like, like BC era.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Oh, okay.

[Ethan]

They're not real.

[Josh]

They're to them, though.

[Andrew]

Yeah. Yeah, for sure.

[Josh]

My whole thing with that is they've never found any archaeological proof of these battles that are in the Book of Mormon.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

But we'll move on.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Okay.

[Lily]

So do they believe that Jesus. Jesus came to America?

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yeah, one knows. Just Native American too. When he came to America, when it was just Native Americans. No.

[Lily]

Yeah, like back in the. When it was.

[Josh]

We do have a lot of Mormon listeners.

[Lily]

Yeah, no, I'm interested. Yeah, tell me about it.

[Josh]

I dated one.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Really?

[Lily]

Watch your mouth.

[Andrew]

Hey, we should get her back on.

[Lily]

The Pod, everybody relax.

[Andrew]

We should have some type of expert in Mormon religion on here at one time. That'd be a fun conversation.

[Josh]

Well, there is the one story that's not technically in textbooks that we've talked about was the. What was the tribe. Was it the Paiute? The Paiute that they battled these giants in Nevada or Arizona? Nevada. Yeah. It was Love Lovelock Cave.

[Ethan]

Okay.

[Josh]

And I think it was the Paiutes.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

I'm pretty sure I'm looking at what.

[Ethan]

Because I told the story of Moon Eye people. And then you can literally track the history. There's like a bunch of battles as they move north and to Love Lock.

[Josh]

But this story was basically the tribe. They're terrorized by these giants. They said they're. They're like 7 to 10ft tall, even taller than that, that had red hair. They would capture the Paiute people, bring them back, eat them. And so it was like this constant battle. Then the Paiute people finally went to this huge battle against these giants, drove them into this cave that's called Lovelock Cave today, locked them in there, put stuff in front of it, lit it on fire and killed the rest of the giants. And the remains weren't found until the early 1900s of these giant skeleton bones and all this stuff they found.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Remains?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Where are they took them? The Smithsonian.

[Jake Hutchinson]

CIA. Is it publicly available in the Smithsonian or.

[Andrew]

No, they know they're dirty archives, really.

[Ethan]

So they. They deny it. This is why it's like not in textbooks and stuff, but have you heard the Abe Lincoln quote, like, affirming the existence of giants and, you know, like, they talk about, like Native American mounds and stuff and like how they contain stuff. This is an Abe Lincoln quote. But in a larger sense, we cannot dedicate, we cannot consecrate, we cannot hallow this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here have consecrated it far above our poor power to add or to detract. Wow. Nope, not the quote.

[Lily]

I was like.

[Ethan]

I was like, I'm waiting for it to get here, but I'm committed.

[Josh]

Niagara Falls in it. And those like those who. Giants who built the mounds overlooking Niagara Falls or something like that, he can't tell a lie. He can't.

[Ethan]

There it is.

[Josh]

It's in the name the eyes of.

[Ethan]

That species of extinct giant whose bones fill the mounds of America have gazed on Niagara as our eyes do. Now.

[Lily]

Was it. Is that a metaphorical giant?

[Josh]

Well, people have talked about they dig, dug in these mounds, these Native American mounds, and found giant bones.

[Ethan]

Oh, My gosh, that's creepy.

[Andrew]

Men don't speak in metaphors.

[Josh]

No, never.

[Ethan]

It's creepier to me that we've existed this long denying something that was so normally accepted at a period in our history.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Giants or.

[Ethan]

Yeah, giants. But like people like no one freaked out when he said that. Like it was an understanding that existed at some point in our history. And so what has to take place in a culture for us to just be like, yeah, it never did exist.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yeah. Why?

[Ethan]

Like the ability that they have to delete a truth from the narrative is terrifying.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Before the Internet.

[Josh]

Yep.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yeah, that's crazy.

[Lily]

Or like when Rockefeller took over all the textbooks.

[Andrew]

Yep. Imagine all the Native American wars that probably happened to that.

[Josh]

Oh yeah.

[Andrew]

Written down. That had to been nuts.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Because it had to feed a certain narrative.

[Ethan]

You talk about wanting guests on the show. I would like looking at American history. Native American history. I would love for somebody who's like, like a Native American who is well versed on like those experiences. I would love to hear a lot of their take on a lot of, of the history and even these like these giant stories. That would be super sick.

[Andrew]

Dude. Let's do a podcast on a reservation around a campfire.

[Josh]

Yeah, let's do it.

[Andrew]

For permission. Let's just show up.

[Josh]

I do have a story that does connect to Native Americans if you guys want to hear it.

[Ethan]

Please, let's go.

[Josh]

Also, aliens.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Is it about the. Nevermind.

[Ethan]

Go.

[Josh]

Well, it's in Russia. It's in Russia.

[Andrew]

Okay.

[Josh]

It's in Voronage Russia. Voronezh Russia, Mother Russia. It's called the Vornes UFO incident. So it was in 1989 in Vornez.

[Ethan]

Good.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Here.

[Josh]

And there's these children playing in this park and they saw this like orange glow or like a sphere floating. And it started coming down and was getting more and more red. And then it was just hovering above the park. And it was this giant metallic sphere. And then all the children are like, what the heck is this? And then it started to come down and land and it said like 40 adults came out because it was like all their kids and stuff.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And it landed and then a door opened from it and it said a nine foot tall armored cover being with three eyes. And a robot came out of this door.

[Lily]

What?

[Josh]

It's crazy. And everyone started freaking out. This three eyed being pulled out this like rod thing and pointed it at a child. The child disappeared, pointed at another kid. The kid frozen. Fear like paralysis. And then it got back in its vehicle, sphere thing took off, flew away. And then that one kid that disappeared appeared again. And it was like, like insane. This is in 1989. And then they sent out these. Like, the KGB, they sent out these scientists to observe it because it, like, made national headlines. And when they observed the grass that this sphere landed on, the consistency they said, became hard as rock. And the whole. The. What I was getting to with the. The wand or the rod.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Apparently it's folklore throughout different cultures, throughout history of these star people, creature things holding a rod. In the Native Americans, they have this story of these alien beings basically coming and they're holding this rod, and when they would point it at people, they would freeze. Like, paralysis.

[Lily]

Oh, my gosh.

[Josh]

And that's where the. Apparently the folklore of magic wands came from.

[Lily]

Wow.

[Andrew]

Interesting. And then we just rebranded into fairies and stuff.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Ethan]

Yeah, it's got me.

[Andrew]

Weird.

[Josh]

Yeah, we'll have to.

[Andrew]

Dude, that's crazy.

[Josh]

But it was national. Like, the US was even talking about this incident. Yeah, but it was like, over. Over 60 people saw this thing in Russia come down in 1989, too. 1989.

[Andrew]

That's like, super recent. Usually that. That reminded me, like, of the Germany UFO story. Like the war. But, like, that's. That was so long ago. That's crazy. Not.

[Ethan]

Not that long ago. A long time in my lifetime.

[Josh]

This is like a pain here. Look at the.

[Lily]

When you were, like, in diapers.

[Ethan]

Like, I was born in 89.

[Lily]

Okay.

[Jake Hutchinson]

That's what I thought you getting at.

[Ethan]

Like, you could stop saying, this is so far.

[Lily]

That literally looks like you. Josh.

[Ethan]

You sent. Isn't. Wasn't the other story that we talked about, Weren't there, like, Russian soldiers that were turned to stone?

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah. That was a KGB declassified file.

[Andrew]

Yeah, yeah, that one's wild. This seems similar.

[Ethan]

Yeah, dude, but can we trust this artist? Look at the faces of these kids.

[Josh]

All the art is wacky.

[Ethan]

It's terrifying. That's scarier than the story.

[Andrew]

I want to get that tattooed all over my back. That whole mural. Full mural.

[Josh]

But people's theory with it is that it was like a psyop mission to see how the public would respond to a UFO incident.

[Andrew]

Dude, they have to be doing that. Wait, so they gotta be doing that?

[Jake Hutchinson]

So aliens are teamed up with.

[Josh]

No. So it would be like. It was a government thing.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Completely fake.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Oh, faked it. Okay, I thought you meant that, like, did a collaboration.

[Andrew]

Yo, you guys cool? We just want. We're just doing a social experiment.

[Jake Hutchinson]

That's crazy.

[Andrew]

It's wild.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jake Hutchinson]

What about skin Walkers and Native Americans.

[Andrew]

That we've talked about a while. That is scary, man. That stuff is, like. It's like a different level of creepiness, right?

[Josh]

Oh, yeah.

[Ethan]

I'll tell you.

[Josh]

I think. I think it's real.

[Ethan]

Real. I'll tell you the stories because I've already told them on the pop, but I'll tell you after. Okay. Like, a buddy of ours is Navajo, and, like, had an experience with one. He's a Christian. He believes that it still exists where it's, like, a demonic satanic practice where they, like, make exchanges for, like, abilities or powers and, like, can oppress people. But, yeah, he had an encounter. I'll fill you in. I don't remember the episode number, but. Okay, you can go back and watch it.

[Jake Hutchinson]

And it. The premise is that, like, the. The Utes were attacking everyone and killing everyone, and then Navajos put, like, a curse on them. Right. And curse. That's what I've heard from people who are from Colorado. Native Americans from Colorado.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Ethan]

I don't know. That's not the version I heard. Not to say that's less true, but.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Really?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Ethan]

This one was. The Navajo did something to acquire the ability.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Oh.

[Ethan]

To basically haunt, but, like, had to kill something that was closest or most valuable a person who's most valuable to them to acquire this ability.

[Lily]

But, yeah, I'm sure it can come in, like, many forms when you originated that way, you know?

[Ethan]

Yeah. The ritual probably exists both as a curse and an ability.

[Andrew]

Maybe sacrifice.

[Josh]

Yeah, sacrifice.

[Ethan]

Terrifying.

[Lily]

Either way, it is like, the scariest of the cryptic folklores to me. I think.

[Josh]

Skin walkers.

[Lily]

Skin walkers, yeah. So scary.

[Andrew]

How do you kill them, Lil?

[Lily]

I don't know. Do you find out who they are? Right.

[Ethan]

Y. Y. Oh, my gosh.

[Lily]

I can't even.

[Andrew]

Then what do you have to do? Say their name right?

[Lily]

Yes.

[Andrew]

Do it.

[Lily]

It's gonna be like one of those drinks where I go to punch him and I miss. Or it's, like, really slow, scary.

[Josh]

Have you heard Dimitri Martin's joke about dream catchers?

[Andrew]

I can't remember. I'm sure I have.

[Josh]

I'll edit it. He's so good, but he says, oh, I see you got a dreamcatcher. What are your dreams? Being dumb. He doesn't say dumb, though.

[Andrew]

That's so funny.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

I used to think he was, like, 16, and then he was, like, 35 when I thought he was, like, 16 years old. Like, up and coming comedians. Genius.

[Ethan]

Andy is harping on my age.

[Andrew]

Yeah. I didn't know those ancient people.

[Lily]

How are you, Jake?

[Jake Hutchinson]

25.

[Lily]

25. You know, it's better than 24.

[Jake Hutchinson]

25, 25 quarter century.

[Josh]

You got anything else, Jake?

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yes, one last one. You probably talked about this before, but the Denver Airport.

[Josh]

Oh, yeah, I was early on. You have something new?

[Andrew]

Yes.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Okay. I was gonna say that. Or Skinwalker Ranch. One of the two.

[Josh]

Let's do Denver.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Okay.

[Josh]

Denver is crazy.

[Andrew]

I can't believe I forgot about this. Dang it. Okay, I'll find it.

[Josh]

That had to been, like, over a year ago.

[Andrew]

We talked about that big time. That was. Yeah, that was when we went.

[Ethan]

It was when we went through there.

[Josh]

When we went through there.

[Ethan]

Didn't we go through there? When we went to South Park?

[Lily]

You guys go do some stuff out there.

[Ethan]

I was like, am I. Do I have a memory that doesn't exist right now?

[Josh]

Yeah, the Denver Airport, like, because, you know, like, the horse and stuff. That statue horse that, like, killed the maker.

[Jake Hutchinson]

The basic stuff. No, I didn't know it killed the maker of it.

[Josh]

Yeah. The guy who made it, it was like. What's it called? The.

[Andrew]

Lucifer's horse or Lucifer is what they call it. But, yeah, it's like Lucifer's horse.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

I mean, I don't know.

[Josh]

Pale blue horse. Yeah.

[Andrew]

I don't know.

[Josh]

That represents, like, death or something.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

The guy. While he was making it, it fell and crushed him.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Wow. Yeah, I just.

[Andrew]

Just sent it to you. They now have a animated talking gargoyle.

[Lily]

Oh, man.

[Andrew]

Within the Denver Airport.

[Josh]

All right, I'm gonna click play ready.

[Andrew]

I'll give you 100 bucks if you come sit here in my place and let me take your flight out of here.

[Lily]

Hey, that is so funny.

[Josh]

Excuse me.

[Jake Hutchinson]

All the.

[Lily]

Make it.

[Jake Hutchinson]

That. That's crazy. Should have been like, Joe Montana or something.

[Andrew]

I mean, they play into this weird.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Being on purpose.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Yeah, they're totally playing into now. They have, like, posters and stuff. Like, the lizard people live underneath the Denver Airport and stuff. Oh, but like, what a billboards in.

[Andrew]

Denver that will be like, you know, like. Yeah. It'll be like a person with, like, their skin peeling off and it's like, you know, you can trust us. Use Denver Airport.

[Jake Hutchinson]

That sounds like Gen Z marketers.

[Andrew]

Yeah. For.

[Josh]

Right.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

They're like, how are we going to persuade people not to. Or, like, make it a joke.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Lily]

You know, and it could just be that. But, like, I think what we.

[Josh]

I think it's more sinister.

[Lily]

You do? Okay.

[Josh]

I think. I personally think it's a. It's a entrance to one of the the nuke bunkers.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Like the president goes to.

[Lily]

Maybe it's like an emergency one where you can't get out. You can't find your specific one in, like, a certain amount of time. So you go run under the Denver Airport.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Or it's an underground city.

[Ethan]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

I mean, they talk. We talked about the amount of concrete that they use to build that place, and it does not add up. Architects are like, this does not make sense. There's something underneath there. And the fencing, the barbed wire is faced the wrong way.

[Josh]

Yeah. It's facing in to where it's like you can't get out of the Denver airport.

[Andrew]

Instead of.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Crazy.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Which. Why would that benefit anybody? They want to keep people who are in there and who are in. In the underground.

[Andrew]

Yeah. That's the thing. I don't know, man. Like, it's just like, they're weird things in the murals they used to have. Did you ever see those?

[Jake Hutchinson]

I think so. A long time ago, I looked all into this.

[Andrew]

Yes. Yeah. I mean, they had weird, like, sacrificial weird.

[Josh]

Like the One World Order kind of stuff. Like, all the nations coming together, and it's so random. Famine and nukes going off and what is creepy.

[Jake Hutchinson]

What if that's just like, the architect on project or the graphic designer who's just wildly into this stuff and it just slips through and nobody else knows, and he's like, yes. That he's putting this on everybody flying through the air airport.

[Andrew]

Yeah. Or he's literally. Or ats. He's at the point where it's just like, I'll do it all as long as you show my art. Okay. Put on the fridge. We don't care. You want to make a horse, make a horse.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yeah. They're like, oh, it's a pretty horse. He's like, it's not the pretty horse.

[Andrew]

Don't ever call my horse pretty.

[Josh]

Oh, well, hey, guess what? Did you know that right after this, we got an episode on Patreon?

[Andrew]

We're continuing this conversation with Jake Hutchinson after this.

[Josh]

Oh, yeah.

[Andrew]

This is gonna be great.

[Lily]

Great.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Let's talk about more weird stuff. I want to hear your thoughts on stuff.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I didn't even know this. This is great news to me.

[Josh]

Good news, people.

[Andrew]

Yes.

[Josh]

But, Lil, you have to take our little babushka.

[Lily]

I do. I supposed to talk about the bears, too.

[Josh]

Oh, talking about real quick.

[Lily]

Okay, quick. I've been talking to this guy. So you know we're affiliated with Sunny. Cool. Does shirts for Walk in the Woods.

[Andrew]

Yes.

[Lily]

That camp store Downtown. Super awesome. They're very nature. You would really like it. They have like the largest showcase of. What is it?

[Josh]

Roark?

[Lily]

Yeah, Camp stuff. They're awesome.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Really?

[Lily]

Yes. And Josh went to high school with their son. Anywho, there's stuff going on. We were talking about development a little bit earlier over developing Florida. They just reopened or they're planning to reopen the bear hunt.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Oh, I saw that.

[Lily]

Yeah, yeah. In Florida.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Which we have hunters in the group, so I understand. However, I think anybody can get frustrated about the idea of over developing Florida. And then the bears start coming out and then the decision being, let's go kill those bears. Okay. And then historically, let's talk about. In 2015, they opened this bear hunt and they like over hunted them like crazy and they went down in population very fast. So the idea is we just want to be more careful about these bears. Find another solution instead of hunting them. And so this guy jc, he's in our area, actually. He's in Mount Dora. He worked on the Walking Dead in like Quantico and all those shows. He was a producer for them. And he owns a production company here, locally called Chill Baby Productions. Is super cool. And he's making a movie. This is so funny. So keep an eye out for it. It's a movie that's purge style of like talking about the perspectives of bears versus people just to like invoke kind of like emotions around what's going on with this bear hunt. So keep an eye out for that. And if you're also interested in donating, they have a donate page and they have T shirts they can purchase from Sunday. Cole.

[Josh]

But it's like the bears are. It's like the people are being hunted by the bears in his movie.

[Andrew]

Is it a cool shirt?

[Josh]

I'm talking about the movie, though.

[Andrew]

Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Okay.

[Lily]

And you can be an extra in it. Anyway, we'll link all the stuff.

[Andrew]

We're gonna be in the movie.

[Lily]

Yeah, you can be in it. You can be an extra and you can sign up.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Cool.

[Josh]

Let's do it.

[Ethan]

Pro hunting bears or no pro hunting bears.

[Lily]

We're not pro hunting these bears. Let's find another solution. Find another solution instead of killing all the birds. Because mostly in 2015, they were like, only killing the moms and the cubs, which is really sad.

[Josh]

Hey, that's not nice.

[Lily]

Yeah, I'll get you.

[Andrew]

Take it back.

[Josh]

Only shoot a bear if it's going to shoot you.

[Lily]

Anyway, we should be careful. And anyway, the T shirts, really cool. We printed it so check it out and go watch a movie when it's done.

[Josh]

Yeah, we'll be in it.

[Andrew]

Bada boom, bada bing. You'll see us.

[Josh]

All right. Patreon.com NinjaShareButterflies yes, we got plenty of stuff on there.

[Andrew]

We've been posting a lot of behind the scenes footage. Andrew got stuck in the mud this morning. I did a burger review yesterday. Riveting stuff. So please go. You can cancel anytime. It's a blast. We want to see you over there. And also if you need ninja swag. Sundaycoolswag.com we printed a ton of new stuff. The JFK Avenge Me shirt is out. Now go get it. We brought it back.

[Josh]

Subscribe to our YouTube. Give us five stars on Spotify, Apple, all that stuff. Jake and Jake.

[Andrew]

Whatever. What are you doing? Where do people follow you? Where can they watch all your stuff? Stuff.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Hello, my name is Jake and you can find me on Instagram at Hutch Jake on Tick tock at Jake Hutchinson 3. And if you need social media help, I'm your guy for iPhone. Organic stuff.

[Andrew]

You have a YouTube channel now, right, dude?

[Jake Hutchinson]

Oh, I do. I have YouTube channels. Just Jake Hutcherson. H U T C H E S O N I'm posting some long form and shorts per their recommendation. Thank you.

[Josh]

All right, we'll put that in the description too. So you guys go follow them.

[Andrew]

Absolutely. We love you guys. Thank you for watching.

[Ethan]

What you're about to see.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Wow.

[Lily]

May disturb you.

[Andrew]

Nominal. If any of you know what these.

[Ethan]

Multi decade UAP dolphins are?

[Andrew]

Aliens.

[Josh]

Bottle knows.

[Andrew]

Fish. Pigs.

[Jake Hutchinson]

There's a massive police response dolphin sty.

[Ethan]

It'd be funny if. If we're all scared if he's just.

[Andrew]

Like, yeah, that would be good.

[Josh]

Just feel like one of these. Yeah. Oh, what is it?