159 - 3I Atlas Incoming, Stem Cell Harvesting, & Government Guinea Pigs

Summary

Ninjas Are Butterflies – Episode 159

Title: 3I Atlas Incoming, Stem Cell Harvesting, & Government Guinea Pigs
Release Date: September 12, 2025
Hosts: Josh Hooper, Andy DeNoon, Clarissa, Lily
Summary by PodcastGPT

---

Overview

This episode dives into a whirlwind of conspiracies, science oddities, dark government experiments, and hilarious banter. The hosts cover recent theories about an alien mothership (the 3I Atlas comet), shocking revelations about stem cell harvesting from wisdom teeth, and a string of jaw-dropping, declassified U.S. “guinea pig” experiments. There’s also ample time for sidetracks on movies, grid vulnerabilities, the power of ancient civilizations, and humorous audience engagement.

---

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The 3I Atlas "Alien Mothership" (21:04–27:31)

• Introduction & Update:
  The group discusses the 3I Atlas comet, sharing rumors and claims that it might be an alien mothership, not just a standard comet.
  • Josh: “They're now seeing that there is propulsion with it... it's probably an alien mothership… like nuclear power.” (21:09–21:32)
  • Clarissa poses scientific questions about comet behavior and orbit (24:03–24:52).
• Speculation/Conspiracy:
  The crew explores theories, including that it could be ancient earthlings returning post-cataclysm, or that its path and speed are too unusual for a natural object.
  • Lily: “What if they’ve been floating around in space and are like, Earth is inhabitable again?” (22:13)
• Cultural Impact:
  References to classic sci-fi movies ("Arrival"), linking fiction to the present cascade of UFO headlines and mainstream science engagement.

---

2. Government Experiments on the Public: "Guinea Pig Nation" (67:01–82:38)

• Project Sunshine & Wisdom Teeth:
  Josh reveals the U.S. government’s secret Post-WWII program where they stole children’s bones (using a baby tooth collection cover) to measure nuclear fallout absorption (strontium-90).
  • Josh: “They were literally grave robbing children... they would steal ribs, femur, bones, and never tell the parents.” (68:47)
• Wisdom Teeth as "Medical Gold":
  Discussion on the conspiracy that dental removal of wisdom teeth is a lucrative racket, with stem cell harvesting as the real motive.
  • Josh: "Recent studies have found that wisdom teeth carry a vast amount of stem cells. It's considered medical gold." (64:22)
  • Only 15% of Americans "actually need" wisdom teeth removal. (64:53)
• Weaponization of Insects:
  A series of shocking military operations included:
  • Operation Big Buzz – bombing U.S. towns with live mosquitoes to test bioweapon feasibility. (71:36–73:13)
  • Operation Big Itch (fleas) and Operation Drop Kick (mosquitoes in Florida).
  • Josh: “The conclusions were... mosquitoes survived aerial drops shockingly well, dispersed over wide areas, entered homes, and bit humans and animals readily…” (73:04)
• Modern Applications & DARPA:
  Today’s insect research (DARPA’s Insect Allies project) could make bioweaponized bugs easier to deploy, masked as “crop resilience.”
  • Clarissa: “How is it OK to run experiments when you don’t have a closed system? Like, these just go wherever.” (77:52)

---

3. U.S. Power Grid & China’s AI Race (32:21–39:05)

• Critical Weakness:
  A recent AI expert’s warning that China’s advanced energy infrastructure gives it a decisive advantage in AI and tech development.
  • Josh: “China is set up to hit grand slams. The US at best, can get on base... China, they've just been planning for it.” (33:14, 34:14)
  • U.S. is “reactionary,” leaves grid weak/vulnerable.
• AI as a Global Arms Race:
  Whoever “wins” AI controls the world economy and military. Fears of sabotage via hacking or power outages.
  • Andy: “How do they attack with that?... our power grid, banking systems, medical system, everything that's online based…” (35:48)

---

4. Comedy, Culture, and Rapid-Fire Banter

• Movie References: Mary Poppins as a witch; Chitty Chitty Bang Bang as terrifying (04:01–06:10).
• Jokes about Putin’s “poop briefcase”: world leaders going to bizarre lengths to evade espionage (17:07–18:32).
• Original comedic songs and riffs on language (“precocious,” “homophones”) and podcast rituals.

---

5. Strange Science & Nature

• Lake Peigneur Disaster Story:
  A wild retelling of Texaco's drilling accident that turned a 10-foot-deep lake into a 1,300-foot-deep saltwater chasm, complete with 200-foot waterfall.
  • Josh: “It created the largest waterfall in Louisiana. It was literally a 200 foot waterfall in the middle of this lake.” (44:07)
• Wallace Line – The Invisible Bio-Barrier:
  Andy shares about a zoological line in Southeast Asia that even birds and fish instinctively won’t cross, separating entire groups of species.
  • Andy: “Animals cannot cross. There's only like a 20 mile difference… but species are completely different. Even the fish will not cross over this invisible line.” (52:54–54:34)

---

6. Brain Chips, Genetics & Stem Cells

• Experimental Brain Pacemakers:
  New tech claims to “cure” depression by activating the brain’s joy center; the hosts worry about implications and emotional control.
  • Josh: “A man who had severe depression ... appears to have gone into remission, thanks to a bespoke brain pacemaker...” (29:00–29:33)
• Wisdom Tooth Harvesting – Medical or Money Grab?
  Hosts question the insistence on wisdom tooth extraction when only 15% need it, probing if the real purpose is stem cell profits.

---

7. Faith, “Silicon Valley Christianity,” & Hope Amid Doomer News (86:23–103:27)

• Peter Thiel's Spiritual Seminars:
  A deep dive into tech billionaire Peter Thiel’s controversial Christian seminars, the Acts 17 group, and how “heterodoxical Christianity” can blur lines between faith and secularism.
  • Clarissa: "He's very much a disciple of this professor... As far as his own religious views, he defines himself as a heterodoxical Christian... the same root as heretic.” (90:08–91:22)
  • Andy: “Having conversations is one thing, but being put up as a teacher... Be careful.” (93:08)
• Countercultural Faith:
  Amid all the dark revelations, the show wraps with a call to maintain hope and resilience in faith, referencing early church perseverance and the transformative power of genuine Christian community.
  • Josh: “You think about Rome... through their perseverance of being counterculture, [Christianity] ended up becoming a Christian empire.” (100:54)
  • Clarissa: “The gospel is redemptive.” (101:39)

---

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Alien Mothership Speculation

“They're now seeing that there is propulsion with it… everything about it is not showing that it's a comet.”
— Josh (21:09)

Government Experiment Reveal

“They were literally grave robbing children... and never tell the parents.”
— Josh on Project Sunshine (68:47)

Putin’s Security Routine

“Vladimir Putin be poopin’—carries around... a poop briefcase to where he poops in it when he travels abroad... the point is so that foreign intelligence can't collect samples of his poop and determine where his health is at.”
— Josh (17:14)

Silicon Valley Faith

“You either believe in the Jesus of the Bible or you don’t believe in Jesus... you don’t get to pick and choose.”
— Clarissa (92:24)

On the Power of Hope/Faith Amid Darkness

“We underestimate God's power... When we say it's no longer I who live, but Christ in me, it's like, what do you want from me, God?”
— Andy (101:40)

Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:43 – Introduction to government experiments/conspiracies
• 21:04 – 3I Atlas / Alien mothership speculation
• 29:00 – Brain chips and mood manipulation technology
• 32:21 – China vs US: AI and power grid vulnerabilities
• 42:01 – Lake Peigneur sinkhole disaster story
• 52:54 – The Wallace Line and its animal-migration mysteries
• 64:22 – Wisdom teeth stem cell/conspiracy discussion
• 67:01 – Project Sunshine and government test atrocities
• 71:36 – Operation Big Buzz/weaponized insects
• 76:42 – DARPA’s Insect Allies and bioweapons
• 86:23 – Peter Thiel’s church/Christianity in Silicon Valley debate
• 100:54 – Faith in history: Rome’s conversion to Christianity
• 102:05 – Hope and perseverance message

---

Tone, Style, & Running Gags

• Fast-paced, irreverent, and conspiratorial, but with frequent detours for silly jokes, wordplay, and original songs.
• The hosts balance dark revelations with light-hearted banter and comedic musical interludes.
• Ongoing inside jokes about podcast rituals, arguments over timeliness, and impersonations.

---

Closing Takeaways

This episode is a blend of science, mystery, and faith: it shines a light on historical and possible ongoing clandestine government actions, technology and AI fears, and the challenges of anchoring faith in a world awash in confusion. The group calls for discernment, authentic faith, and hope—never shying away from laughter or truth-seeking.

Transcript

[Andy]

Trip Planner by Expedia. You were made to outdo your holiday, your hammocking and your pooling. We were made to help organize the competition. Expedia Made to travel. This episode is brought to you by Progressive Insurance. Fiscally responsible financial geniuses, monetary magicians. These are things people say about drivers who switch their car insurance to Progressive and save hundreds. Visit progressive.com to see if you could save Progressive Casualty Insurance Company and affiliates. Potential savings will vary. Not available in all states or situations.

[Josh]

Hold on to your trashers, folks, because the government's been experimenting on the US population for a long time.

[Clarissa]

And we got the proof.

[Andy]

And here's the update. The alien mothership. Yep, you gets it. It's here before you know it and it's coming at us fast.

[Clarissa]

And what's the conspiracy behind your wisdom teeth? Are they using them for stem cells or is it something worse?

[Andy]

Ooh, we go now. You're lying. Say the line. Say the line. Yes, you do. You have a lie.

[Josh]

You have to be joking.

[Andy]

It's the final thing we say in every intro of all time, guys.

[Clarissa]

Energy. This power is.

[Lily]

This power.

[Andy]

This power is brought to you. This power.

[Josh]

I cut her off.

[Clarissa]

I cut her off. That's my fault.

[Lily]

This podcast is brought to you. Empowered by Sunday. Cool. Watch this.

[Josh]

Yeah, thank you.

[Andy]

This power.

[Josh]

There you go. Yeah, just a little bit. Test, test, test, test, test. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's good. Ow.

[Andy]

You okay?

[Lily]

Oh, gosh, it's good. Get it out.

[Andy]

Get what out, Lil? Get what out?

[Lily]

Why are you getting so mad at me?

[Josh]

Who said we're mad at you?

[Lily]

Look at Andy right now.

[Josh]

Who said we're mad at you? Not me.

[Andy]

Not me.

[Josh]

What time is it?

[Andy]

No, 1057.

[Clarissa]

Do you think we can go to lunch at intermission?

[Josh]

I mean, we might as well.

[Clarissa]

Yeah, it'll be about noon.

[Andy]

Lost 30 minutes.

[Lily]

Let it be known for the record that I had asked Josh, hey, can I get there? 9:30? Ish.

[Josh]

No, you said 10. And he's like, no, you said, then.

[Lily]

No, come at 10:30. I can't help that. Clarissa sits right next to the bathroom and we hopped into a quick chat.

[Andy]

You can't help that. Actually, it's literally the one thing you can control.

[Josh]

Say, hey, love to talk to you. Let me talk to you after.

[Andy]

But she's not going to be here after. Oh, wait, she works your nine to five. Oh, wait. I don't know if I could do today's pod.

[Clarissa]

That cup scares me.

[Lily]

The contents of it?

[Clarissa]

No, just the.

[Josh]

With a.

[Clarissa]

It's very Close to the boom.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

You know, I spilled my first one.

[Josh]

Precarious.

[Andy]

Word of the day.

[Lily]

Good one.

[Andy]

Precarious.

[Josh]

Almost said promiscuous.

[Lily]

Ada's the lady that runs the front desk. Ms. Lafferty called ADA precocious.

[Andy]

What? What did you say? Take it back.

[Clarissa]

All just staring at you, waiting for another context clue.

[Lily]

I guess it means that you are just skilled at something prior to the age of expecting to be good at something. Yeah, like you're advanced.

[Andy]

Crying.

[Josh]

Isn't that a. Isn't that a song in, like, an old movie?

[Lily]

Yeah. Yeah. Precocious. It's in Mary Poppins.

[Josh]

Is it?

[Andy]

Sing it.

[Lily]

Even though the sound of it is always quite atrocious, if you say it loud enough, you'll always sound precocious.

[Josh]

Supercalifragils it. Guys.

[Andy]

Is that a real word?

[Josh]

That big one, Supercalifragil? I don't know.

[Andy]

Or do they make it up for the song? Either way, it's genius. But still, it does make me wonder if there's actual definition to it. I wish there was a way we could find out.

[Josh]

Who are we talking to the other day that said Mary Poppins was a witch?

[Lily]

She kind of was.

[Andy]

I think it was me.

[Josh]

I feel like we're.

[Andy]

No, we talk. We're talking because then, like, she makes things move with frequencies and sounds, and I said, well, then that makes Mary Poppins a witch.

[Josh]

I mean, she. I think. I think she's eternal.

[Andy]

I mean, she probably helped build the pyramids, floating the stones.

[Lily]

She probably was showing up for kids in caves and nannying them.

[Andy]

How terrifying would that be?

[Josh]

Because the. Doesn't the new Mary Poppins with what's her face?

[Andy]

Emily Blunt.

[Josh]

Isn't that where she comes back?

[Andy]

I'm not sure. I thought it was a full remake. Oh, I can't remember.

[Lily]

I can't remember.

[Andy]

I do love the original, though. I watched that all the time as a kid.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Isn't it weird how, like, you watched them all the time as a kid, but then you. You take a. Like, a big break and you go back and watch those movies and you're just like, wow. I just. Why did that scene stick out so much to me?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

There's so many scenes from Mary Poppins that, like, the telephone scene at the very beginning, the wind storm, all that. There's a scene in the bank at the very end.

[Lily]

Oh, yeah. So good.

[Andy]

Yeah. Just sticks with you.

[Lily]

Yeah. Movies used to, like, you know, mean some.

[Andy]

Teach us some kids these days, dude.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Ruining movies.

[Lily]

And they're dragons.

[Josh]

I Tried. Did I think? Did I say? Did I think? Did I show? Did I. How do I say?

[Andy]

Did you?

[Josh]

Did I tell you that I tried to watch GD Bang Bang with the girls the other month?

[Andy]

No.

[Josh]

Hated it.

[Andy]

Scary, right?

[Lily]

Very scary.

[Andy]

Isn't it?

[Clarissa]

Like the.

[Andy]

I've never watched it, but I've seen clips of, like, that guy on the roller and the wheels and, like, stands up. Yeah, it's so scary.

[Josh]

He literally snatches kid off the streets.

[Andy]

Yeah, it looks like one of those just, like, puts him in a dungeon fever dream.

[Lily]

Oh, yeah, definitely.

[Andy]

I don't know if I want to watch that. We did watch Iron Giant with the kids last night. They fell asleep during it, but yeah, it's so good. Kelsey's never seen it. I'm like, what are you doing?

[Lily]

We were just talking about that. That's weirdly coincidental.

[Andy]

I know. They saw that. You see. You saw the AI trailer.

[Lily]

Oh, that's. We all saw the same thing. That's why we're in an echo chamber where all.

[Andy]

Come on. Stop. Stop.

[Josh]

Not everything's a conspiracy, but did you hear about the Iron Giant?

[Lily]

I've got a really bad headache.

[Andy]

You saw how to change your dragon? The new one.

[Josh]

Here's some Tylenol.

[Lily]

Really?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Is that for you, though?

[Josh]

No, I pulled it out, like, last week and I've never taken it.

[Andy]

Throw it.

[Josh]

What's so weird about that?

[Lily]

What if a child walked in here?

[Andy]

What if a child walked in here, took those and felt better, had a great time.

[Lily]

Extra strength Tylenol.

[Andy]

They'd have a great time. That's what would happen.

[Lily]

What? That does not look like Thailand. Are you positive?

[Josh]

Yes. It's the fentanyl. Take it generic. Yeah.

[Lily]

Okay.

[Andy]

Container. Fentanyl. They all rhyme.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

At the end of the day, if something rhymes, it's. It's fine.

[Josh]

Oh, do you want a song?

[Andy]

We need a verbal response, please. It's being audio and video recorded.

[Lily]

Yes.

[Andy]

Okay. Okay.

[Lily]

Can you ease up on Came kind?

[Andy]

I love that I can shift very easily. Just like. Oh, I'm supposed to be angry. Okay, I'll just keep that tone.

[Josh]

So.

[Andy]

I'm sorry. I apologize.

[Lily]

Thank you. I'm sorry.

[Andy]

I'm sorry.

[Lily]

I'm sorry for being late.

[Josh]

We're here to have a good time.

[Andy]

Sure. A good time we're having a good time A good time a good time we're having, having a good time having.

[Josh]

A good time not sure how long.

[Andy]

I can last Life is moving way too fast Would I even take a.

[Josh]

Stand if someone else took My land. I don't wanna rambleness. Can't beat Putin up with this. If they invade, what's the cure? But I know one thing for sure. I don't wanna be Russian through the days of my life anymore. Not up for discussion. Seems every day is a brand new war and I know they say it's okay when the bombs are headed our way I don't wanna be rushing.

[Andy]

Through.

[Josh]

My life Many more.

[Lily]

Wow. That was fantastic. Very funny. I love the innuendo.

[Andy]

It's a little play on words. A little play on words, Folks.

[Lily]

Homophones.

[Andy]

Oh, you can't say. This is 2025. 2025. You can't say that anymore.

[Clarissa]

They have their rights.

[Andy]

Yeah, we love. We love all people. Don't be just throwing out slurs like that. Golly.

[Josh]

Makes me sick.

[Lily]

Stop making that noise.

[Andy]

Why? What noise?

[Josh]

How about we stop making all noises?

[Andy]

Okay. Why?

[Josh]

Everyone be quiet.

[Andy]

For what?

[Josh]

It's time.

[Andy]

Okay?

[Josh]

It's time. It's been weeks since we've had our beloved Lily. Easy wasn't a compliment. And we just gotta just really think about this one today. Okay? This is not a joke. This is not us trying to get you. We're not trying to get anyone. Okay? This is a genuine question, probably for the first time in Ninjas of Butterflies history. It's not a joke. And I don't want any giggling. I don't want any laughing. I want us to be truly. I want us to truly immerse ourselves in this question and just figure it.

[Andy]

Get.

[Josh]

Get to the bottom of it. Okay? So today's question, sent in by a viewer. Do first responders deserve a break? Will, what do you think?

[Lily]

Yeah, of course. They work so hard. They should be able to take a break and have a sandwich.

[Andy]

We didn't say. Did he not say this was not a joke?

[Josh]

I don't know why you're doing this. Take a break. No. Do they deserve a break? They deserve to break a femur, to break a bone, to break a heart. They deserve brokenness.

[Andy]

No, it's what you just said. You're contradicting yourself.

[Josh]

What? You literally just said, Lil.

[Andy]

You said yes, of course. Without hesitation.

[Lily]

Is that what I meant?

[Andy]

No. Is that what you meant?

[Josh]

That's not what you meant?

[Andy]

Oh, we're supposed to just read your mind now? Oh, my God.

[Josh]

Jeez. You should.

[Andy]

If you would have asked. Can I have more context? We would have happened. What? Are we ever not giving you content?

[Josh]

You just rush. You just rush to conclusions. Oh, yeah. They deserve a broken heart. Yeah, they Deserve to break their bodies after everything they do to protect us.

[Andy]

To protect us. Don't blame us for your knee jerk reaction to that question because we know how you feel now, so we know.

[Josh]

Exactly how you feel.

[Andy]

They put their life on the line, Lil.

[Josh]

Life on the line.

[Lily]

Lil, do you feel like a big man talking to me like this? So make I feel macho, huh?

[Josh]

I'm glad you're taking this as a joke. You see me laughing? Did you see any laughing?

[Andy]

See me laughing?

[Lily]

I did see Andy.

[Andy]

I was trying not to spit out my drink because I was so disgusted.

[Josh]

You see Andrew laughing? Andrew doesn't think this is funny at all. Neither do I.

[Lily]

All right, good. Didn't you.

[Josh]

Well, I guess you guys heard it here first. Lily thinks this is all a joke. She thinks that first responders. Yeah, they deserve the worst. They deserve broken hearts, broken bodies, and what they do, it doesn't matter.

[Andy]

Nope.

[Josh]

And this is all just funny to her. I'm sorry, first responders, we support you.

[Andy]

Absolutely, we support you.

[Josh]

Welcome to the show.

[Lily]

Oh my gosh.

[Josh]

Did I say ninja?

[Andy]

I meant butterfly. The butterfly is no doubt one of God's most. I said empty your mind. You were martial art ninjas. Attack.

[Clarissa]

Your response?

[Andy]

You feel like a big man when you talk to me like that. Big man with the big microphone and big headphones, huh? Makes you feel tough.

[Lily]

I'm sweating. I always end up sweating after that.

[Josh]

Pre warning. I have partaken in the drink of creatine this morning. And the science minded is that creatine helps water be absorbed into your muscles.

[Andy]

Excellent.

[Josh]

Right? Well, turns out the bladder is the most dominant muscle in my body, so I will have to be partaking in the urination quite frequently.

[Andy]

Yeah. Yes. To be expected. Yes, yes.

[Josh]

Like very shortly.

[Andy]

Like now.

[Clarissa]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Let me just go.

[Andy]

Oh, Lil, we've missed you.

[Lily]

Oh, I miss you guys.

[Andy]

Did you enjoy your break?

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

What'd you do on your break, bro?

[Clarissa]

You could have lied to us.

[Lily]

What do you mean?

[Clarissa]

He said, did you enjoy being away from us? And you said, yes.

[Lily]

Well, it's nice. Yeah. Because Thursday has become like really chaotic. It's hard because now that school's in the mix, so it's just like a lot of running around.

[Andy]

Yeah. I heard Ada needed a break yesterday.

[Lily]

She is so emotionally intelligent, it's insane. She woke up and she said, I think I need to take a break today. And I was like, okay, sure, go ahead. Go right ahead. Listen to your body.

[Andy]

Skip school. I don't care.

[Lily]

Yeah, no, that's literally. I Feel if she were to say that every morning, I would keep her home.

[Andy]

Yeah. Well, now that you've broken that. Yeah, that wall now it's, like, up her sleeve. Now it's gonna be easy.

[Lily]

She. She was excited to go to school this morning. She got ready really easily, and then we were, like, almost there. And she was like, I want to stay home. And Jane is the one that talked her out of it. She said, but, Ada, you're gonna play with your friends today.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

And she was like, don't talk to me right now, Jane.

[Andy]

I don't want to hear it.

[Lily]

And Jane goes, but I love you. She literally said that.

[Andy]

Oh, my goodness.

[Lily]

Do they even need me?

[Andy]

Yeah. That's so funny. But also, Jane's just like, don't ruin my alone time with mom.

[Lily]

I know. Yeah. Well, we're not even hanging out, though. That's the sad thing.

[Andy]

She got. She got her nana, right?

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

She's going out with popsy, who has a ginormous dude slice out of his body.

[Andy]

We saw the picture. You know, that's crazy.

[Lily]

You know, there's real melanoma.

[Andy]

That's so.

[Lily]

And I said, steve, you suffer so silently. Tell someone we had no idea that you had cancer.

[Josh]

Yeah, he told us at the beach.

[Andy]

Dude, if I had cancer, everyone would know.

[Lily]

I know. Me too.

[Andy]

And I'd be. I'm wearing T shirts on it. Be nice to me. I have cancer.

[Lily]

Me too.

[Andy]

I would just be rubbing it in. All that sympathy. I'd ask for discounts when I go to the grocery store.

[Lily]

Mm.

[Andy]

Everywhere.

[Lily]

Would you shave your head even though you didn't get chemo?

[Andy]

Yeah. 100%. My eyebrows first, though, so it's really obvious.

[Lily]

My question is to the audience, do we need this light? Do you guys need to see clearly?

[Josh]

Yes.

[Lily]

This part of the room.

[Josh]

Yes.

[Lily]

I don't think they would care. This is a podcast again. Listen, let's turn that light off.

[Josh]

We're a video podcast. That's what we're known for.

[Andy]

This is a comedy show.

[Lily]

It hurts.

[Josh]

Spotify said, don't stop what you're doing. You're doing it right. Videos of future.

[Andy]

The future kid.

[Josh]

It's the future kid.

[Andy]

Imagine this. Everyone see your face in real time.

[Josh]

Speaking of seeing your face in real time. And Putin.

[Andy]

Putin poopin. We need to tell that story, by the way.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Even though it was on live.

[Josh]

I don't care.

[Andy]

It's so funny.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

You know about it?

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Okay, cool.

[Josh]

Never mind the poop bag.

[Lily]

Yeah, you told me about it.

[Josh]

Yeah. So for those that didn't see her live, Vladimir Putin be poopin' carries around. No, he doesn't. His bodyguards carry around a poop briefcase to where he poops in it when he travels abroad. And when he goes to the restroom, he's accompanied by six bodyguards. The whole point of it is so that foreign intelligence can't collect samples of his poop and determine where his health is at.

[Andy]

Genius move. I'm gonna start doing that. Yeah, really? Like, not in a briefcase, though. It's just in a bag. My desk. And you've got to stop.

[Lily]

My question is, it stinks if he flushes it, how are they even gonna collect it?

[Josh]

I'm sure they have ways.

[Andy]

If that was their thinking, they're like, oh, we'll get them in the bathroom. Make sure that goes to, like, a secure spot.

[Lily]

I mean, they would separate. How would they know what stall he uses?

[Andy]

They would secure all of them. One pipe.

[Josh]

They're pretty aware of these things.

[Andy]

If they can make a river more river, they can make it happen.

[Josh]

A river more river.

[Andy]

Also, who's. I mean, imagine like, congratulations, you now have a job with Mr. Putin. No way. What do I get to do? Well, here's your briefcase.

[Josh]

He never empties it either.

[Clarissa]

You see Taco Bell get delivered, and you're in the back of the car like, Mr. President, please don't eat bean burrito.

[Andy]

The thing is, we. I. The eye doctor that we used to work for, he was a complete, like, a vegan freak, like, supernatural whole food guy.

[Josh]

They're the stinkiest booze.

[Andy]

It was the worst.

[Josh]

The stinkiest booze.

[Andy]

It stunk up the whole place, and it's like, what are we doing?

[Lily]

It's true. I was a vegan for, like, two years.

[Clarissa]

It's the fiber.

[Josh]

Are you still a vegan? Because.

[Lily]

Watch your mouth.

[Andy]

Stank in there. I mean, got a full of me.

[Clarissa]

It's the fiber, right?

[Lily]

Yeah. Lots of vegetables.

[Josh]

Yeah. But Putin.

[Andy]

Yes, go ahead.

[Josh]

So did you hear about how he gifted a man in Alaska a motorcycle?

[Clarissa]

No.

[Andy]

What?

[Clarissa]

It was funny.

[Josh]

One of the funniest things. So Putin met with Trump and stuff, you know, but there's, like, a little, like, meet and greet with, like, some of the locals there in Alaska, and this one Alaskan guy, like, shook Putin's hand or whatever, and I don't know how it was the briefest interaction ever, but somehow the guy got brought up that the guy has a motorcycle, and it's, like, not really running right now. Whatever. And then, like, literally, it was like, the next day or the day after that, the government of Russia gifted this man in Alaska a new motorcycle. And the guy's like, okay, this is very random. Is like the conversation was like five seconds weird. And he's like, thanks. So I mean, it's a cool motorcycle that's super cool. Has like a sidecar on it and my gosh. Yeah, that's cool.

[Lily]

Maybe he's trying to win the Alaskans because he wants to win Alaska.

[Josh]

He wants Alaska.

[Clarissa]

Well, that's what I'm saying. Like, what's. Because he was saying that whole thing where he, like, wants Christians to return to Russia and find safe haven. Like, what?

[Josh]

Yeah, what. What's he playing at?

[Andy]

I don't know. That's weird. This motorcycle will destruct in five. I'd be scared to ride that thing. Dude.

[Josh]

I wish I had the quote from the guy. But he's just like. It was. He's like, basically like, okay, thanks. And like they're interviewing him. He's just like, I don't get it, but I got a motorcycle.

[Andy]

Is it treason to accept that right around. I don't know. Everyone would know.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Golly, what a cool gift.

[Josh]

I know.

[Andy]

That's a cool. I'm going to just start buying people motorcycles so they like me.

[Josh]

That's cool.

[Andy]

I mean, that's a good method.

[Josh]

That is a good method.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Being a good methods. Update on the Three Eye Atlas.

[Andy]

Yes. The comet.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Alien mothership. Is it behind the sun?

[Josh]

No, but they're saying it's like picking up speed to where it's going to be here. Like I think in October or maybe. No, September, I think. So we're supposed to be close to Earth, I think November, but it's. They say it's like picking up speed and they're. Now they're seeing that there is propulsion with it. And the, the professor from Harvard who's been like, it's probably an alien mothership. This guy. I don't even know what he's basing it off of.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

But he's like, everything that I'm observing, it looks like nuclear power. What, using the propulsion? Because it's. Everything about it is not showing that it's a comet.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Like, because it's not having like a tail necessarily, putting off debris. It's literally. It's like propulsion.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

You know, it'd be crazy interesting. Let me bring this idea up theoretical, you know, like this idea of like these ancient civilizations had achieved like crazy technology. And then like some cataclysmic event happened. And Wiped them out.

[Josh]

They're coming back.

[Lily]

If a group of them escaped on a spaceship and have been floating around in space and they're like, Earth is inhabitable again.

[Josh]

Whoa. That's a fun theory. Say it again.

[Clarissa]

That's a fun theory.

[Josh]

What do you think they look like?

[Lily]

Do you think they look like us or do you think they've evolved?

[Josh]

I bet you they're like giant, like Incan people.

[Lily]

I see the opposite. Because they'd be living on a ship. They're probably tiny, but it's huge.

[Andy]

It's like a seven. It's like a seven mile wide ship.

[Lily]

I mean, but think about tens of thousands of years of breeding and growing.

[Josh]

But what if it's just like a group of like seven, like the watchers.

[Andy]

Ooh.

[Lily]

Or what if they've been like controlling. I read this sci fi book in high school that was so interesting. You'd actually love it. I need to find out what it was. But somebody didn't help me because it was popular, so probably a lot of people read it. But they would control the breeding on sport, on board the spaceship, through the food, so that you couldn't overpopulate.

[Andy]

Got it.

[Lily]

And generations lived on the ship.

[Andy]

Kind of like silo, you know?

[Lily]

Yes.

[Josh]

Do you know that a hieroglyphic and not a hieroglyph, it's petroglyph. Is that what it is? It's like the Aztec Ruins where it's like the spaceship, man. Where literally looks like he's in a rocket.

[Andy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Josh]

Have you seen it?

[Clarissa]

I think so.

[Josh]

Your theory could be right.

[Lily]

Well, and you know, I mean, like, obviously, like the only thing that can save us from the trajectory that we're on is Christ. But also, like, these people could come back and be like, hey, nuclear war is what destroyed us back then. Don't do it. Get rid of these things. Disarm them, everyone.

[Andy]

And so his theory on nuclear power, that's probably only like, because of only what we know. Like what we could guess. Because we don't know if it is something out of this galaxy or whatever. We wouldn't. I mean, it's the only thing comparable to it. Right.

[Josh]

I think that one limited.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

To where it's like there. It looks like there's like levers and stuff.

[Clarissa]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Andy]

That'd be wild.

[Josh]

He's like sitting in like a seat that's like going up.

[Andy]

I'd love.

[Clarissa]

I'd love to talk to this professor or just hear his explanation of if it's approaching Earth as It passes Earth to get to the sun. Gravity would speed it up. So I want to know like at what rate it's.

[Josh]

But it's going like anti orbit though. That's the whole thing. It's not falling. What's a typical comet or something would fall in line with the orbit of like around the sun?

[Clarissa]

Yeah.

[Josh]

It's like going the opposite direction.

[Clarissa]

So this is my unpredictable myth orbit. If it's from who knows where on a straight line, at what point is something's orbit? Like, what effect does that have? Does it actually like run against the grain out in deep space? Because, like, don't you need friction from an atmosphere to like actually cause the trail? So it would just be pulling in?

[Josh]

No, you don't know because it just shoots off the debris or whatever. So that's how they're able to observe a comet is by the tail. You don't need an atmosphere for that.

[Clarissa]

So it's like, what's it burning then?

[Josh]

Just gas off the. The face of it.

[Clarissa]

Okay, so it has gas itself.

[Josh]

Technically. Yeah. Like a hydrogen or whatever. And it's like it comes off in like dust particles or whatever.

[Lily]

Oh, that's wild looking.

[Andy]

It's gonna be fascinating as I get closer that we can observe it more because like, imagine what if it isn't just like one big rock. It is literally a ship.

[Lily]

Dragon on top probably.

[Andy]

Or a bird. When I bought.

[Josh]

When I think of 3i Atlas so I think of arrival. It's like that giant black stone.

[Andy]

Yeah. It just sits there. Dude, that was. I mean, that was truly such a great alien movie because that's literally how we would react. I mean, just these things floating, not having contact, the just sitting there.

[Josh]

The concept of that movie was so cool. Ingenious.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Of like how their. Their language, like once you understand the language, you can jump back in time. That's like, dude.

[Andy]

Yeah. I love that movie.

[Josh]

That's crazy concept.

[Andy]

So good.

[Clarissa]

Spoiler.

[Andy]

There is a. This just reminds me like 3 body problem so much that show. And I mean, I don't know, man. Could this be made up? Could this be a, you know, one of the events that the government has built up as like other people around the world also, not just America, because I know the Harvard scientist was like the big lead on it.

[Josh]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Andy]

That would be interesting like if other people around the world are also.

[Josh]

AJ Yeah, I think we talked about before, but AJ from the Y files, he did a video on just how vulnerable Earth is to comets and like how much their impact It's a really fascinating video, but, like, we know so little that, like, scientists, there's. It's, like, such a small percentage of, like, what we can actually do to prevent something from hitting the Earth.

[Andy]

Yeah. And what we actually can confirm is real. And what we know compared to, like. Yeah, this is speculation.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Because that line is so blurry.

[Lily]

Yeah. And Bruce Willis is out of commission.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Clarissa]

Dude, this is blowing my mind. A comet does not burn. It's. Think of it as a giant, dirty snowball, and it's the frozen ice, gas, and dust. The sun is melting it, and as it fades off, its reflection of light. So it's literally cold. It's not burning.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Oh.

[Andy]

Fun. Let's just blow up the sun.

[Lily]

What is that? Let's talk about that for a minute. What is. What is. Like, what are these rocks in space?

[Clarissa]

Yeah. Where the frozen. Where the water come from. To have a frozen.

[Lily]

Did a planet explode and it's got rocks and stuff?

[Josh]

That's some people's theory of, like. So, like, the rings of Saturn and stuff are actually from a planet that was destroyed in our own solar system. And some of the moons around these planets are fragments of that planet.

[Lily]

Oh, man. Are they oblong? Because I've always pictured them perfectly round.

[Josh]

No, they're very like. Though if you looked at. I think it's the moons around. Is it Saturn or. No, Jupiter. They're, like, very weird. Misshapen. That's what makes our moon super unique, is, like, its uniformity.

[Lily]

Yeah. Spherical.

[Josh]

Spherical. And its size comparison to the Earth.

[Lily]

And because it is not naturally occurring, we put it there.

[Josh]

And because it is a satellite.

[Andy]

Yes. 110% holding the elites inside, ready for war.

[Lily]

It's a timeshare opportunity.

[Andy]

That'd be so cool. Just go to the moon.

[Lily]

There's a theme park.

[Andy]

Hey, we can all go in on this if we want to break it up. We could do vacations. Let's make it happen.

[Josh]

Speaking of the moon, he's going on.

[Lily]

About the timeshare again.

[Andy]

Guys, it's the moon. You're gonna love it.

[Josh]

Do you guys hear about the depression brain chip?

[Andy]

Nope.

[Josh]

So weird. So a man who had severe depression for more than three decades appears to have gone into remission, thanks to a bespoke brain pacemaker that selectively activates different areas of the brain. He experienced joy for the first time in years. They did at the University of Minnesota or whatever. But it was this experimental thing to. Where they literally put a brain chip in this person's brain and electrically activate the part of your brain that brings joy.

[Andy]

I don't know how I like that.

[Josh]

I don't know either.

[Andy]

Just artificial joy. I mean, it's not artificial, I guess.

[Josh]

But it's like forced joy.

[Andy]

Artificial trigger joy.

[Josh]

Yeah. Well, it got me thinking about. Let's get this guy on a jet.

[Andy]

Ski, dude, come on. What are we doing?

[Josh]

Yeah, but I mean, that's. That to me, that was freaky.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

I mean, I think that's cool that they're able to medically.

[Clarissa]

Right.

[Josh]

Something that. Because he's been on antidepressants for over 30 years or something.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Nothing's been working. Feeling joy for the first time in 30 years is insane.

[Lily]

Amazing.

[Josh]

I think that's dope. But at the same time, how you can take something in with this talk of all these brain chips. Neuralink. That one company we talked about, I forget the name of it starts with an S. But how you can affect emotions now based off of something that you implant in your brain.

[Andy]

Yeah. And there's just the implications of that. Like, what other emotions can they control?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Can it go bad?

[Josh]

It makes me think of Kingsman.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

That signaled. Or makes everyone angry and want to kill each other.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Freaky.

[Andy]

I don't know, man. That's such a. Like a. It's such a slippery slope because it's like. Yeah. Because then they could control whatever emotions. And I don't know if it's. I mean, one day that'll be like remotely operated or something, you know, like, that could be. That is scary. I don't know how I'd feel about that.

[Clarissa]

It's interesting when you think, though, about. Because, like, a lot of those antidepressants, they're like dopamine regulators and stuff like that. And so they're doing like, a physical medical solution to it. But then it begs the question, like, where do you draw the moral line? Like, I'm a doom scroller. I'll get caught for hours. And that's a dopamine feed. And so, like, the morality of, like, I'm regulating my dopamine by watching YouTube, you know, for hours on end at, like, what point where in this conversation do we draw the line and say, this is good, this is not.

[Lily]

Yeah, you're right.

[Josh]

I've been noticing because this whole week, me, Lil and the girls have been not doing tv. Like, we're fasting TV this week just to like. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, try it out.

[Lily]

It was a challenge from Kenny. Yeah. Pastor Kenny.

[Josh]

The dopamine hit is crazy. Because since not watching tv, I've been, like, craving sugar.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

So, like, when I buy into chocolate, I'm just like, oh, my gosh.

[Andy]

So, getting your fix somewhere else?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

It's so funny.

[Andy]

Dude. Kelsey's trying to do a whole month with no sugar. Like, no added sugar.

[Josh]

That's crazy.

[Andy]

That's literally everything in our life.

[Josh]

Yeah, everything.

[Andy]

I mean, like, anything you eat in your fridge, like now it's added sugar. Like, even cheeses and stuff like that. It's like, what are we doing?

[Lily]

She's doing so good. Yeah. And she's, like, lifting too. I got. I got to get on the Kelsey train.

[Andy]

She's buff.

[Josh]

Speaking of buff, you can talk about.

[Andy]

Me if you want.

[Josh]

So, about the power grid.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Josh]

This is a little scary. So I saw this article. It says, AI expert returns from China stunned. He said the US Grid is so weak, the race may already be over.

[Lily]

Yeah, dude. No, it's true.

[Andy]

In what ways?

[Josh]

Listen to this. So I'm just going to read it. AI Experts returning from China say the real threat to US Dominance is an is. Or, sorry, the real threat to U. S. Dominance and advantage. Advantage. Technology isn't research or talent. It's the power grid.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

In China, energy is always available in the U.S. it's becoming a growing roadblock down the road. Sorry, you mean. Read that part again, please. In China, energy is always available in the U.S. it's becoming a growing roadblock. China built decades of excess power capacity, maintaining a reserve margin of 80 to 100%. That flips the script. Data centers aren't at a risk to the grid. They help soak up surplus energy. It's why China can scale AI fast without second guessing. The US grid typically runs with a reserve margin of 15% or less, which leaves almost no room for new demand. Companies are already building their own power plants, and households are getting hit with higher bills. As AI Infrastructure pushes local grids to the limit, experts say the gap comes down to structure. China plans its energy decades ahead while the US Is only. While the US Only responds once demand shows up. As one expert put it, China is set up to hit grand slams. The US at best, can get, get on base, proactive react.

[Lily]

I know. This was in my head too.

[Josh]

Yeah. China, they've just been planning for it, planning for this whole AI thing, and we are in trouble.

[Andy]

Just going with the flow.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Like, oh, you guys need more? Yeah, we got it.

[Josh]

Yeah. I mean, we talked about the project Stargate. Yeah. The Sam Altman open AI how they're building their Own power plants.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

It's insane.

[Andy]

It's weird, man. I don't understand like how we as a country that just seems like we are so reactionary with everything.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

And our whole government and so it's just like, I mean, where's the, where's the downfall of that though? If China's ahead, like does that, that.

[Josh]

Hurts us how ahead of AI?

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

They can take over.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

They say the first one to basically have. What was the terminology? The first one to control AI controls the world. And so we've been in a race with China. I think we might have better technology AI wise in China, but they have the full infrastructure. They've talked about this one guy, basically he's an AI expert, laid out this timeline of the war on AI and he's like China's already infiltrated the US with spies to gain information on the technology of AI in the US they're bringing it back. And so he, I think his prediction was by 2027 China will be way far advanced than the US and AI.

[Andy]

Yeah. And how do they attack with that? Like how does that, how do you take over with AI?

[Josh]

Our power grid, banking systems, medical system, I mean any, everything that it's online based. Anything digital weapons.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Radar, everything.

[Andy]

Codes. Yeah, man. See that's the thing. It's almost like it's just a ticking time bomb. It's just a waiting game at this point. It makes you wonder how far in the future can we plan as normal human beings? And then maybe that's all in vain because we just, it's, you know, it's not going to get there.

[Josh]

Yeah. I mean they've been saying it for. They as in like the government and FBI and all whoever. They've been saying of how warning how our power grid is so vulnerable, it's so outdated. And we had those attacks, I think it was last year at those power plants where those dudes just literally drove in, blew it up and it like made like however many thousands of people lose power. It's like it's that vulnerable.

[Andy]

It's that easy.

[Lily]

We hang our, our electric lines from the sky.

[Clarissa]

So check this out. This is, I'm, I'm kind of tripping on this. I looked up how much the US government spends subsidizing energy and it's like 28 billion, which with our, you know, economic debt, that makes sense. And so I looked up what's, how many households in the U.S. right. There's like over 300 million people. But like how many would it be? 128 million. What's the cost of the average home to go solar? It's between like 15 and 20 grand. So for approximately. And I, this, this math can't be right, but I think it is 15. Oh yeah, I know where I messed up. Nevermind.

[Josh]

You know, that brings an interesting point though, because it's like how expensive and a lot of restrictions of solar, you know.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And it's like because the US forever, like at least you can trace it back to Nikola Tesla trying to create free energy. And JP Morgan's like, how do you put a meter on that? He's like, you don't. It's free energy. So it's been just about capitalism and profit literally, you know, so that's why we haven't advanced like China, because China is a communist country, everything belongs to the communists. So it's like, yeah, we'll just keep growing our infrastructure for power grids because no one profits except the state, you know.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

But for the US it's like it's industries that own the power grid. It's not the US government. So it's like we just were behind the times.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

It's like the one of the instances where capitalism comes to bite you in the butt.

[Andy]

It's just like one of the knife to a gunfight.

[Josh]

One of the many. Yeah.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Clarissa]

So for like 2 trillion.

[Josh]

Do what?

[Clarissa]

2 trillion. You could put every home on solar.

[Andy]

Write the check, Mr. Trump.

[Josh]

Yeah. Come on, come on, let's do it.

[Andy]

I mean. Yeah. That we are so behind in all that.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

And it just makes us wonder like, I don't know, like it's just ancient, like, I mean we once again, ancient civilizations only last for so long and it's like what happens? Like would we think we're. They're just going to continue forever because some, someone's gonna get greedy, someone's gonna want to make a move.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

It's very interesting.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

I mean, why, what would be the downfall for other like for China to take over the us like if we cease to like exist as a whole government, like a democracy of people.

[Lily]

I think they're just still scared. The reason why they're not right is because they're still scared of like our capabilities, especially as like with nuclear power.

[Josh]

Yeah. I mean we're still dominant in military and nuclear bombs and we're a key factor in like the economics of the world, you know, so it's like can't just take us out, but you can slowly chip away or prepare.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Clarissa]

Yeah. The goal isn't to conquer. Because if you conquer, you have to rule. And they don't have the infrastructure to rule all of the United States. So they're going to chip away until we're dependent on.

[Josh]

Definitely will. If you're the leader in AI, though.

[Clarissa]

Well, that's what I'm saying. If you can chip away. Okay, now we have an edge. We have the solutions to all the energy. We hit their grid. And yet now we have the technological solution to no grid. And so now you answer unto your. Beholden unto us.

[Andy]

Yeah, I mean, I don't want to be Chinese.

[Clarissa]

What if I'm already Chinese?

[Andy]

I, they. I saw an interview of a guy on YouTube and he was talking with his friend who used to apparently work on nuclear sites, missiles and stuff like that. Like, just whatever. I don't know the, the details of what he used to do, but he said, he says, I obviously can't tell you where our nuclear bombs are at, he says, but it would surprise you. Like, he's like, it would blow your.

[Josh]

Mind where every Walmart.

[Andy]

That's what I'm saying. Like, what is. Like, there's every Chuck E. Cheese ready to blow? I mean, like, I have no idea.

[Lily]

I was going to say, like, it's like the silo opens and it's in like Stony Brook Hills or something. It's like in residential home.

[Andy]

Yeah. Well, think it makes you wonder, like, where actually could it be if they.

[Josh]

Put it under every Walmart? You think of the, the alibi of like, every, like the Walmart people. Like, there's a nuclear bomb under here.

[Lily]

Sure.

[Josh]

All right, buddy.

[Lily]

Okay.

[Clarissa]

What do you mean, Walmart people?

[Josh]

You know what I mean? Everyone knows what I mean.

[Andy]

Don't look at me like that. Everyone knows.

[Clarissa]

I'll tell you what, one of them's definitely in Eustace because I can't figure out why that armory is in downtown Eustace.

[Lily]

That armory. Oh, yeah.

[Andy]

It would just make sense. Like, it would have to be under big security, but it wouldn't be obvious.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

So you got to kind of like, think of, like, places that are under a ton of security.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Places we didn't never think of.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

I don't know, man. That's fun. That's fun to think about because it's like, it would be so. It'd be so neat. Just some farmer on his land and just seeing it open and taking off.

[Josh]

Like, oh, man, look at there go. Speaking of capitalism and nuclear bombs.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

This story was a crazy story. I, I forget the YouTuber. I saw it, but I Did research on it. Have you heard of the Lake Peigneur incident in Louisiana?

[Andy]

Lake Penur? No.

[Josh]

This is a crazy thing. So it's this fairly decently sized lake, not a huge lake in Louisiana called Lake peigneur. And since 1910, underneath this lake, it's like an ancient lake, but it's very shallow. It's 10ft deep.

[Andy]

Whoa.

[Josh]

But underneath this lake was a vast amount of salt.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Josh]

And so a salt mine company started in 1910 Salt mining underneath this lake. And it just so happened this lake was also on an oil reserve. So Texaco, in 1980, or I don't know when they started, but in 1980, while Texaco was drilling in this lake, like, with their barges and stuff, and it's like they accidentally pierced into the salt mine.

[Andy]

Oh, no.

[Josh]

Drilled straight into it. And at the time the salt mine work, there's 55 salt mine workers down the salt mine. I mean, hundreds of thousands of feet below the surface.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

All of a sudden, they just started hearing this, like. And then all of a sudden it's like. You see, there's like just. And they're like, oh. And so they're like, all right, everyone, come on, let's start. And then also the water just gushing in.

[Clarissa]

Dude.

[Josh]

And luckily, all 55 salt miners were able to get out, but this thing filled up within minutes just because the entire lake started coming down on it, Just draining. Yeah. But the. The drill, the guys that were running the barge up top, they just. They heard this clanking sound, like, what in the world? And they kept on drilling. And all of a sudden, just this small. What do you call it?

[Lily]

Whirlpool.

[Josh]

Whirlpool started forming in the middle of the lake. And they're like, oh. And then all of a sudden, it started getting faster and faster. It ended up. They all escaped, but ended up sucking in the entire barge. This little island that was on the lake sucked that in. That had a house on it. Sucked in trucks, boats, a tugboat. Sucked it all in. No one died in this incident.

[Andy]

All underground. It just got sucked in.

[Josh]

Yeah. They said because it was sucking in so fast that at one point, it created the largest waterfall in Louisiana. It was literally a 200 foot waterfall in the middle of this lake. Sucking in the entire lake.

[Lily]

Oh, my God.

[Andy]

Straight down.

[Josh]

It sucked it all in. And there was a canal leading from the lake to the Gulf of Mexico.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

It was such pressure that it went in, and when it hit, it blew back up like a geyser. And when it did that, the canal Reversed to where the Gulf of Mexico sucked salt water into the lake. And so now this lake is a saltwater lake and it's up to 1300ft deep.

[Andy]

Yikes. Holy crap. So it just removed like it's all the land underneath the lake just was caving in.

[Lily]

Like a sinkhole.

[Josh]

Yeah. Because it filled the mine.

[Andy]

Gosh.

[Clarissa]

Trying to think of how much mining they did to do that.

[Josh]

Oh, it's huge.

[Clarissa]

Yeah.

[Josh]

I saw a map of it and it was a massive amount because they've been doing it since the 1910. 1910.

[Lily]

What did that salt mine get from Texaco?

[Josh]

Well, they got $32 million.

[Lily]

Yeah. I would hope.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Clarissa]

That's.

[Josh]

So Texaco was sued, obviously.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

They settled for $32 million. And the surrounding businesses and residents got $12.8 million.

[Andy]

Whoa.

[Clarissa]

Yeah.

[Andy]

How nice would that be? Golly, dude.

[Josh]

Yeah, that's wild. It's insane that they said it was the largest infrastructure catastrophe with zero casualties.

[Andy]

Wow. I mean, lucky for them.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

That's crazy.

[Lily]

Wow.

[Andy]

But I can't imagine like being on land just watching that transpire.

[Josh]

They said it's 200 foot waterfall in the middle of this lake. It was just, it opened up.

[Andy]

Sound of it, it.

[Josh]

Oh, dude.

[Andy]

So scared. You'd be thinking the world's ending.

[Lily]

I'm like, the world is ending.

[Josh]

Could you imagine that happening? And then you just see this canal go like they said it rushed back in. They said it was almost like a tidal wave.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

From the Gulf of Mexico.

[Andy]

Dude, a surfer's just getting sucked into Louisiana.

[Clarissa]

No, dude, I'm trying, I'm trying to think about the correlation between saltwater because they were salt mining before it the go. It sucked the Gulf.

[Josh]

Yeah. It was a freshwater lake with a.

[Clarissa]

Salt mine underneath it.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Clarissa]

But then there was also oil that Texaco was after.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Clarissa]

So again we have mineral resource close to salt water. I wonder. This is purely speculation, but thinking about like the flood narrative and like petroleum being from like compression in time. Like I wonder if the layer of salt, like if the, the oceans flooded, you know, flooded the earth, you create this like sediment layer that would like trap in that fossil fuel. I wonder if that science checks out.

[Josh]

Interesting.

[Clarissa]

Just the thought.

[Josh]

Yeah. What if the earth, when it was first created was all fresh water and then when the flood happened, it switched to salt water.

[Andy]

That'd be interesting.

[Josh]

I know that's not what you're saying, but that's where my head went.

[Clarissa]

Okay.

[Andy]

I was like, wait, that is an interesting thought. Like if. Yeah, I mean, because like it's not drinkable. But like was all water drinkable back then?

[Clarissa]

Hmm.

[Andy]

It'd be interesting.

[Clarissa]

Did I.

[Andy]

What's the thought process behind that?

[Clarissa]

Did I talk on the pod about my buddy who asked to be unnamed but sent me info in regards to my whole theory about the Texas lithium mining?

[Josh]

I don't think he talked about it.

[Clarissa]

Okay, so if you know the. Who knows if it's true or not. We do know that they were in Texas with the flood. We do know that they were oil companies and energy companies were buying up land in order to, you know, they were hoping for this lithium deposit to cash out. And so they're doing this stuff. And it was my theory all along. Just because the Texas legislation now allows for the companies that are bringing up wastewater, they're now they have the rights to that wastewater rather than it being considered part of like the drinkable aquifer. There's like weird laws that got passed anyways. And so it was just a theory that that's why they're flooding stuff. They're trying to get in there. I have a friend who works in the oil industry and he said, by the way, your theory's probably pretty dead on. He said because the company I work for is actively now trying to. It's called a centrifuge. It's a big machine that like spins it and separates. But they're actively working on getting lithium out of wastewater.

[Josh]

He was like an oil company.

[Clarissa]

Yeah, the one he works for. He sent me a photo of their centrifuge. He said ours is too small and the tech's not there. But he was like, just so you know, he's like, I'm not telling you anything else. Don't use my name. He was like, but they're trying to get lithium out of wastewater. And he works predominantly not in Texas or in Arkansas, but he's over on the, I think east coast, like possibly North Carolina. But I think it's interesting that that's the new move in energy is that they're getting lithium from wastewater.

[Josh]

Probably trying to catch up with China's frickin power grid structure.

[Andy]

Yeah, seems like we got a lot of catch up to do.

[Josh]

Seems like it, yeah. Know what? It also seems like we got that don't go anywhere.

[Andy]

Fall, autumn.

[Josh]

Trees.

[Andy]

Leaves.

[Josh]

Pumpkins.

[Andy]

Patches.

[Josh]

Fall is right around the corner. Aren't you going to get your Sunday cool stuff? Playing football in the third, down for get. You need a shirt from Sunday cool.com, custom merch, custom hats, stickers, all the things you need Sunday Cool dot com. Throw in hay and all that stuff in all that loves. We need sure. That get a shirt that's super soft. Super soft. 72 hour turnaround Sunday. Cool.com custom merch. Go get it. Now. We've done better.

[Andy]

I don't think so. How could you be so. I don't want to be rushing.

[Lily]

Maybe I got a snake in here.

[Josh]

I haven't even touched the stuff that I want to talk about.

[Andy]

Good.

[Josh]

I haven't even touched it.

[Andy]

I was just about to talk about the Wallace line, but then you went to break.

[Josh]

Oh, my gosh.

[Andy]

We're talking about water. I was like, oh, that's a good segue.

[Josh]

Well, let's talk about your Wallace line. Right after question corner.

[Andy]

Question corner, question corner. Questions are fresh on her mind.

[Lily]

I don't have a question.

[Andy]

Too stinking bad. Go. Go to pay. Go to Discord and go to the questions corner with Lily.

[Lily]

I literally forgot about it.

[Andy]

You have one job. I know.

[Lily]

Oh, no.

[Andy]

Out of all your responsibilities, you have. This is top priority.

[Clarissa]

You want to flip flop the order.

[Josh]

Yeah. Flip flop, flip flop, flip flop. We got a real. Right now.

[Andy]

Right now.

[Lily]

Now.

[Andy]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Clarissa]

This is so. Imagine waking up in the middle of the night to just who knows what kind of commotion happening in your kitchen. This dude gets up and is the most equipped, ready to go. You'll have to decide if this is something we can actually show. But I think this is just. This is epic.

[Josh]

Do we need volume? Yeah, we know that core. Do we.

[Clarissa]

No, I mean, it's not that. You'll hear it.

[Josh]

Okay. Ready?

[Clarissa]

Yep.

[Josh]

Three, two, one. Oh, that's music. I might get flagged.

[Clarissa]

Yep. I sent the wrong one. Hold up, hold up, hold up. Where the heck is it?

[Andy]

Get off.

[Clarissa]

Yep.

[Andy]

Okay, don't look.

[Clarissa]

Go back to Lily. I got an airdrop. Something did not.

[Andy]

Dang it. For those of you guys who aren't on our Discord, in our. In our description, you should have a link to our ninjas of Butterflies. Discord. We do have a Patreon. Only Discord as well, but we have a public one. So you go in there, submit questions that Lily might need or.

[Josh]

Well, while we're waiting, tell us about your. Your way.

[Andy]

The Wallace line.

[Josh]

The Wallace line.

[Andy]

The Wallace line. It's a. It's a weird bio. I mean, not economical bio. But I don't even know how to pronounce it. But there's this invisible line between. So you have Indonesia and you have Australia, right? You have Bali, you have the Philippines, and then there's Australia. There's an invisible line between these islands that for some reason marine biologists have no idea. Biologists have no clue why animals cannot cross. There's only like a 20 mile.

[Josh]

Heard of that? Yeah, a long time ago.

[Andy]

Yeah. It's crazy because there's only like a 20 mile difference. But so on this side, on the Asian side, you have tigers, elephants, monkeys, all these types of things. But then 20 miles over you have animals, they're completely different species, are completely different species. Snakes that don't even belong to the snake family. You have marsupials like kangaroos and koalas, and then you have dingoes all. And like monitor. Not monitor lizards. Monterey Monitor. I think monitor.

[Lily]

I think monitor lizard is correct.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

What's a Monterey?

[Lily]

That's a manta ray. Monterey is a place in California.

[Josh]

Yeah, right.

[Andy]

Sick place, though. But. Yeah, it's just such a. Like a weird. People cannot figure out exactly why it was discovered a long time ago and by a guy named Wallace.

[Josh]

It's correct, right. That they've never observed those animals crossing over.

[Andy]

Even the fish will not cross over this invisible line within the ocean. Birds will not fly to the other side. It's just a border that animals instinctively just don't cross for some unknown reason.

[Josh]

Weird.

[Andy]

And you just have different species that are incredibly strange. I mean, you think about marsupials, like, what is it? And it's almost identical ecosystems. So it's like, what is strange? What's the difference? Like, what is that?

[Josh]

You wonder if it's like a gravitational force or something or like a, I don't know, frequency or something.

[Lily]

Line or.

[Clarissa]

Yeah, but it have to be something we can't measure. Yeah, you know, they're trying to figure that out. They'd find gravity or energy and why.

[Andy]

Animals are the ones that are the only things that don't cross it.

[Lily]

That is something I've been trying to figure out or just been thinking about why. How do they know about a ley line? How do they discover a ley line?

[Andy]

I mean, that's a frequency thing, right?

[Josh]

I mean, frequency, it's a gravitational anomaly, I think, and people.

[Lily]

And people just catch a vibe or they measure it somehow.

[Andy]

I think it's purely vibes. Seems odd. These animals are like really in tune with vibes.

[Lily]

This place is giving me the creep.

[Josh]

No, I mean, I think they. I. I'm ignorant in the whole topic. We gotta get that one guy that we met at blurrycon. He runs. He. He's a handler for the Sasquatch guy.

[Andy]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Josh]

He knows everything about ley lines. He was like, schooling us, and I'm just like, what, dude?

[Andy]

It'd be almost interesting to do like a quick, like two minute, like, podcast interviews. I walking around and just asking people questions and like. Yeah, that would do a compilation. Yeah. People at BlurryCon. Because, you know, there's people that are there that are just like, super knowledgeable, like on very niche things that they find interesting and just pitch us your craziest theory or, like, thing that you've ever heard.

[Lily]

Give us your hot.

[Josh]

Take that line, though. That is fascinating.

[Andy]

It's crazy.

[Josh]

And it almost makes you, like, want to, like, study the history around it and, like, how the people interacted in those areas and.

[Andy]

Yeah, for sure.

[Josh]

Interesting.

[Andy]

Yeah. Cultures are completely different as well, but, I mean, the ecosystems are almost exactly the same.

[Josh]

Isn't also crazy that Australia was set up for basically a prisoner island by the British Empire?

[Andy]

Was it?

[Josh]

Yeah, it was a British. I believe. Ned. Ned Kelly. He's only one. Only prisoner.

[Lily]

I know.

[Josh]

Kelly, Ned, Kelly. Yeah. And it's like a beautiful island.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Of course they took over and the aboriginal people had to suffer.

[Andy]

Also, how that accent come about. I. Dude, it's the craziest accent. I love it so much.

[Josh]

It's insane.

[Andy]

So fun. All right, who's ready?

[Clarissa]

I'm ready. It's there.

[Andy]

Jeez.

[Lily]

Go ahead, Andrew.

[Andy]

I feel like we need a new song.

[Clarissa]

It's already there.

[Josh]

Are you ready? 3, 2, 1.

[Clarissa]

No sound did up.

[Andy]

Oh. Oh, my God. Dude.

[Josh]

Holy Is.

[Clarissa]

Wait for it. You'll. It'll show you. This is the close up.

[Andy]

Oh, my Lanta, bro.

[Lily]

At the bear.

[Andy]

Yeah. Dude, why would you shoot that?

[Clarissa]

I blurred out the red and blurred out the face, but that was big reaction time.

[Lily]

Was this guy in the military.

[Clarissa]

That's what I'm saying.

[Andy]

I mean, that's crazy. That's nutso. Dude. That thing was coming around the corner.

[Clarissa]

I'm so impressed with. I mean, so I've been high.

[Andy]

You're thinking it's an intruder.

[Clarissa]

Dude.

[Andy]

What?

[Clarissa]

I blurred out on the head. He's got shots through the dome.

[Josh]

Dude, that's crazy. The adrenaline when his flashlight went out.

[Clarissa]

But, like, how. How crazy is that? Like, I mean, precision, calmness. There's like a bunch of like, military and whatever Instagram accounts have, like, all reshared it, and every one of them is like, this is why you train.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Clarissa]

It looked exactly like how you should handle that.

[Andy]

Gosh, man, that. That would be scary because you're probably thinking it's an intruder. So you're up high and then having to back up and dip down, like.

[Clarissa]

And so crazy. The guy's anonymous. This happened in Tennessee. The guy's anonymous. Obviously animal rights people and all this crap. It's illegal to hunt bears. You know, everything you have. Well, I was going to say, you know, it. I don't know if it went to court or whatever, but the, the official, he was found completely like, not guilty of anything. Like, like Fish and Wildlife. No one. They're like, yeah, it. The dude's in his house and a bear turned the corner.

[Andy]

What if, what if it was a hoax, though? They. They went and hunt a bear and then they carried inside and they're like, they're the buddies, like, holding it up. He's like, okay, come around the corner and he just throws the bear.

[Clarissa]

Just tranquilize a bear, bring it in your home and wait for, for it to wake up.

[Andy]

That's crazy smart, man. It's like that one bear that breaks through the door but then holds. That knows the door is going to swing back so it holds its paw out.

[Clarissa]

I'm like, yeah, yeah.

[Andy]

So scary.

[Lily]

I. I think that animals are getting smarter.

[Andy]

Oh, they have to be, right?

[Lily]

I think they're gonna revolt.

[Andy]

I'm reading a book right now. I just started it last night. It's called the Hollow Kingdom. And it's. The premise is it's a zombie apocalypse book, but it's all told from the animals perspectives. And I'm like, this is going to be a good book.

[Josh]

Whoa.

[Andy]

Yeah, Super.

[Lily]

That's kind of chilling.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

You know what I want to do more research into? Have you heard how they used to have birthing centers and they would give birth and basically like a pool with dolphins?

[Andy]

No.

[Josh]

They've outlawed it. Yeah.

[Lily]

Because people were dying.

[Josh]

I haven't heard that. I heard that there, there was something more like, mystical about it.

[Lily]

Oh, really?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

There was like a one instance that I heard of where it was. Something crazy happened.

[Clarissa]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Would you hear?

[Lily]

Some died. Somebody died?

[Andy]

How?

[Lily]

Dolphin.

[Andy]

The dolphin attacked the baby or the mom.

[Lily]

I might have dreamt this. Let me make sure.

[Josh]

I have never heard that the dolphin jumped it.

[Andy]

Probably. I don't trust dolphin trainers anymore, dude. You know what's ticking me off is like these, these killer whales that are in pools that. You've seen that, like the drone footage of them just in small pools, abandoned, like parks. It's not even abandoned. Like there's something. Yeah. Like, but it's like, how is that okay still.

[Josh]

Yeah. Mexico banned all marine animals being Captive.

[Andy]

I mean, I. I mean, I love going to SeaWorld and seeing. I love aquariums, all that stuff, but it's like. This is gross. Like, it's kind of crazy to me that it's, like, been years, and it's so incredibly sad. I mean, I don't even know what to. I think putting down the animal would be more, like, merciful.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

No. Letting it live. Golly. I know.

[Clarissa]

There was one that just went viral or whatever, and they actually. Oh, my gosh.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Don't.

[Lily]

I'm not gonna say that. I'm not gonna say that. But let me also.

[Andy]

What a headline. What a headline.

[Josh]

Crazy headline.

[Andy]

Business Insider. Chillax, dude.

[Lily]

You guys. So you can see that.

[Josh]

Yeah, well, I'll. Yeah, we won't talk about it.

[Andy]

Let's just say. Let's just say Lily was telling the truth. Yeah.

[Lily]

Let me show you this picture that Ada said. Can I take your picture? Sending a test to Josh.

[Clarissa]

This is a fun section of the podcast. My gosh.

[Lily]

Scary.

[Josh]

Wow.

[Andy]

Anyway, boo.

[Josh]

I'll show. All right. I'll show.

[Andy]

Come on.

[Lily]

Wait a second. I take your picture like this.

[Clarissa]

Do you got a question?

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

When the questions are finally fresh on her mind. Finally.

[Clarissa]

Where'd this thing go?

[Lily]

If you had to share a studio apartment with one wild animal for a year.

[Andy]

Which animal would you choose?

[Josh]

Koala?

[Clarissa]

Raccoon.

[Lily]

Raccoon? They'll eat all your food. I pick a turtle. Go for tortoise, man.

[Andy]

It's in your studio apartment.

[Lily]

A studio apartment.

[Andy]

So you don't have a lot of room.

[Lily]

No, but if you eat a tall bed, a tortoise is not going to climb that.

[Andy]

Why? Why wouldn't you want it to climb with you?

[Clarissa]

You know, chill out with the creature?

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

I'm avoiding this.

[Andy]

Oh, man. That's a tough one, I think.

[Josh]

Just gonna say, not worth the wait.

[Lily]

Sorry. I'd come up with it really fast because I forgot.

[Andy]

Did you have to come up with it?

[Lily]

Chat. GPT had to come up with it.

[Andy]

Come on, you guys.

[Lily]

My brain isn't working today. Be nice.

[Andy]

I would do a. I was gonna say howler monkey, but then. Those things are terrible.

[Lily]

Yeah, dude.

[Clarissa]

My friend had a capuchin. He said that thing was awesome. It would microwave food for him.

[Andy]

What's a capuchin? Capuchin.

[Clarissa]

It's like a little monkey you can train.

[Andy]

What's like. What would be something that's.

[Josh]

I had a buddy back in the day, they had a bunch of pet ferrets. Those things stank. They stank so bad. I think they pee on themselves.

[Andy]

They're terrible.

[Clarissa]

Oh, dude. Speaking of things that smell bad. Went out to the property to deal with my deer feeder. Hasn't been dropping corn. I thought it was empty, dude. What had happened is squirrels had eaten a hole in the top, and it's still half full of corn. But the corn had soured and got nasty in the bottom of the thing. So I'm like, whatever. I took the bottom off and I took a stick. I was gonna break it loose as soon as the first layer of corn fell. It was. I don't know what slime corn becomes, but inside, the dry outside of corn was just a ball of maggots and grubs. And literally, I had to. That is one of the worst smells I've ever smelt. And I have to, like, have my arm in the feeder, like, clearing it all out. Brutal.

[Josh]

Speaking of brutal.

[Andy]

Orangutan.

[Josh]

Nice.

[Andy]

It's mine.

[Clarissa]

It's good. Cuddle.

[Andy]

You can rock me to sleep.

[Josh]

Wisdom teeth.

[Andy]

Ooh. Let's get down to it.

[Clarissa]

This is a conspiracy. I don't buy you.

[Josh]

Just wait. Wisdom teeth. Recent studies have found that wisdom teeth carry a vast amount of stem cells. It's considered medical gold.

[Lily]

They didn't let me keep my teeth. They didn't let me keep my teeth. I could keep them. And they said no.

[Andy]

They said it was a biohazard to me.

[Lily]

That's what they told me too.

[Andy]

It's my teeth, I think.

[Lily]

How come I lost on my baby teeth? I could keep those?

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Did you know that only 15% of Americans that get their wisdom teeth removed actually need them removed? Fifteen.

[Clarissa]

I believe that.

[Andy]

What do you got to say for yourself?

[Josh]

Conspiracy.

[Lily]

Wow.

[Josh]

Wisdom teeth are important. They carry a ton of stem cells that are good for you. And we're just out here plucking them out.

[Lily]

Well.

[Josh]

And selling them in the black market.

[Andy]

Giving them to the man.

[Lily]

Do they actually benefit us? Like, do we like. Or is the question that they want them because they want to sell them?

[Josh]

Who knows? Well, they. The. I did look it up, and you have to do a procedure in order for that to quickly move it to where it's stem cell research. Goes to stem cell research. But the conspiracy part of it is that it's a. I forget what it is. It's like a $1.9 billion industry of wisdom teeth removal.

[Andy]

So they're making bank. They're making bank weird off our ivories.

[Josh]

That's right.

[Andy]

Dang it, dude.

[Josh]

I know.

[Andy]

And they're making a buck. You know, they're getting, like, a huge kickback for every wisdom teeth. And you said your dentist would not even do cleanings until you got your wisdom teeth removed.

[Lily]

Yes, I actually would verify that because they. What they basically had said was, I called them again after, and I'm like, hey, he's. He. He's having some mouth pain. You don't want to check him out or whatever. They're like, it's because of his wisdom teeth. So we're not going to see him until he gets those out. So they might see you for cleanings, but maybe not tooth pain.

[Josh]

Well, they're fine. Yep, they're fine. Now they're.

[Lily]

Talk to me in three months. Andy, I just want to say you are better because you got your wisdom teeth out.

[Josh]

His were cracked.

[Andy]

I feel dumber. No, mine were literally like, they had to be removed because it could have caused an infection to my brain. Because, yeah, the crack. The whole top was exposing all the nerves and everything.

[Lily]

Oh, my God.

[Andy]

I'm telling you, I can't. I'm so glad I got him out because it was so painful.

[Lily]

Wow.

[Andy]

Eating anything was so painful.

[Lily]

That's so sad.

[Andy]

And it was terrible.

[Lily]

You were living with pain for years.

[Josh]

Well, this is a cool story.

[Andy]

I'm a strong guy.

[Josh]

You hear this story involving teeth?

[Andy]

Sure.

[Josh]

In 1958, the Washington University, they ran this study where they basically asked the American people, hey, do you want to send in your child's baby teeth? And it'll go for research for health and to better improve the medical industry, all this stuff. And you're like, yeah, that's cool, right?

[Andy]

Wrong. No, that. Immediately red flag.

[Josh]

It was a front, a public front for something called Project Sunshine.

[Andy]

Excuse me. What were they doing with these teeth?

[Josh]

You just. The teeth are just the tip of the iceberg.

[Andy]

The tip of the teeth.

[Josh]

That was the public front. And it was the same Project Sunshine. And it was started by the Atomic Energy Commission along with the dod, Department of Defense, better known as body snatchers.

[Lily]

They were taking kids.

[Josh]

What they were doing was because at this time during the 50s, they were just lighting off all these nuclear bombs all over the place. They wanted to observe this one compound. What was it called? Bubble Baby, bop bop straight. Strontium 90 or strontium 90. It's this compound that only or is absorbed into the body from nuclear fallout. And what they wanted to do is like, how is this affecting people all over the Earth? And so the Atomic Energy Commission, along with the Dodge, basically did this whole undercover thing. So they went to hospitals, scientists, and they Were literally grave robbing children.

[Lily]

Like.

[Josh]

Yes. Grave robbing. I thought you would make that connection.

[Lily]

I just didn't want to.

[Josh]

But what they were doing is testing their bones.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And seeing whether or not they had this strontum or strontium 90 compound in their bones. And so this went on for who knows how long, but they would literally, like, if a child died during birth or whatever, they would. The doctors. They would literally team up with these doctors and they would steal ribs, femur, bones, and never tell the parents, but they were caught going into places and, like, basically stealing bodies.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

For these tests, this is what America was doing. And the conclusion was, like, they actually had a large amount of this compound or this particle from nuclear fallout.

[Andy]

That's crazy.

[Josh]

Yeah. And it wasn't discovered until. So the Atomic Energy Commission never publicly admitted they were taking bones from children until declassified documents surfaced in the 1990s.

[Andy]

So they got caught.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

And this is 100% real.

[Josh]

100% real.

[Andy]

What are we doing?

[Josh]

That's insane. But they would do it in the US they did it in Europe, Australia, parts of Asia.

[Andy]

It was all one effort.

[Josh]

All one effort. Yeah.

[Lily]

Where did they see any, like, spikes? In certain regions where it was, like, more potent.

[Josh]

Yeah. That's where they were, like, basically, like, where they would detonate nuclear bombs. That's primarily the focus of, like, they would observe, like, wind direction and stuff of, like, how far it was carried. So they tested all over. But they were literally body snatchers. They were stealing baby's bones.

[Clarissa]

That's crazy.

[Andy]

It makes you wonder if they're doing stuff like that still today.

[Josh]

Oh, yeah. 100% wisdom teeth testing wisdom teeth.

[Clarissa]

Yeah. This says.

[Andy]

Well, that and other. I mean.

[Josh]

I know.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andy]

That sucks.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

It's terrible.

[Clarissa]

It says it's a radioactive isotope produced in nuclear fission, and it's similar to calcium. So that's why it binds to teeth into bones. And they're able to test. But it's spread in the atmosphere, in the fallout. It contaminates food and water or can be inhaled. So any, you know, you think about, like, ocean water, people spend time in that eating the fish. Like, all of these are ways that you would.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Clarissa]

You would get that in your system.

[Josh]

Specifically for babies and children because their bones are growing. So it absorbs this developing.

[Clarissa]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Thing way easier. Yeah.

[Andy]

Golly.

[Lily]

Give me a little hope. That was so doomy.

[Josh]

Sure. Have you ever heard of Operation Big Buzz?

[Andy]

It sounds fun. Toy Story.

[Josh]

I'm just gonna. I found a ton of operations and projects that The US Government did that are just like, why do we live here? What are we doing?

[Andy]

Also, why do they name it Sunshine? It's the opposite of sunshine.

[Josh]

I know.

[Andy]

It's darkness. Operation Darkness because.

[Lily]

Is it because of the song you Are My Sunshine? Because that's a sad song.

[Andy]

You are my. Yeah, that's super creepy.

[Josh]

You ready for this? Operation big buzz. 1955, the army, the US army bred 1 million female mosquitoes that are known to spread yellow fever and ding. How do you say that?

[Lily]

Dengue dinghy, which is a terrible fever.

[Josh]

Yeah. Roughly 300,000 mosquitoes were loaded into bombs and dispersed from airplanes as well as were released from the ground in small boxes around the United States.

[Lily]

What? And to check immunity or something?

[Josh]

So. No, to check. To see if they can spread bioweapons through insects.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

So these mosquitoes weren't infected by a disease or whatever that we know of, but it was just a test to see can we drop them from bombs. And the conclusions were. Yes. Mosquitoes survived from aerial drops shockingly well. They dispersed over wide areas, entered homes, and bit humans and animals readily. Tests proved that mosquitoes could, in theory, be used to spread disease like yellow fever, malaria, as a weapon.

[Andy]

Yay.

[Josh]

Mm.

[Andy]

I mean, yeah. Because you would never expect. Oh, you just like. Especially in Florida, it's just like. No, it's just mosquitoes, dude. Yeah. Yeah. They're everywhere.

[Josh]

Well, they did it a couple times. They had Operation Big Itch, which they released fleas everywhere. In bombs. They released fleas in bombs. And then they did Operation Drop Kick, which is where they released basically the same concept. They released a ton of mosquitoes in Florida.

[Lily]

Oh, okay, cool.

[Josh]

And it makes you wonder.

[Clarissa]

Yeah, bro.

[Josh]

If our mosquito problems now are because these great operations.

[Clarissa]

Yeah, dude. I have a mosquito killed on my windshield that I've been meaning to take a picture of. I swear to you, it's the size of a quarter. And I knew if I said that, no one would believe me, so I left it smashed. But like, it's something different. Like, I've never seen mosquitoes this big. Yeah, it's weird.

[Josh]

Well, you know, it's crazy is Cuba in the 1970s and 80s accused the US government of doing that exact same thing. So they accused the US of releasing that type of mosquito to spread. Dengue. Now you say it.

[Clarissa]

Dengue. I don't know.

[Lily]

It's like dengue fever.

[Josh]

Yeah, Dengue fever.

[Lily]

Something. I don't remember. You might be more on it.

[Clarissa]

Yeah.

[Josh]

But a 1981 outbreak killed over 150 people, mostly children. Cuba formally accused the CIA in the U.N. though hard proof never surfaced.

[Clarissa]

Oh yeah, how do you prove where the mosquito came from exactly?

[Josh]

The fact that they're like, the US did this? And they're like, no. How are you going to prove that?

[Andy]

No. We would only do that on our own people. What are you talking about? We didn't do that to Cubans.

[Clarissa]

Lecture halls.

[Josh]

But for the Vietnam War, there's a declassified records of mosquito and insects. Insect research being tied to the Southeast Asia operations, but no direct evidence that weaponized release were carried out. But they were testing it in Vietnam as well.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And you know that they're doing disease stuff 100%.

[Andy]

I mean, like what? What in their mind, what do they have to lose?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

If it works, great. If it doesn't, at least we irritated them out of mosquitoes to their climate.

[Clarissa]

And our military goes through a protocol of immunizations before they deploy to any of these areas. They're like, hey, it's malaria.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Clarissa]

What is it?

[Josh]

Yeah. And the fact that like, if you want to travel abroad, you have to get all those vaccines and shots and stuff for yellow fever and malaria because it's probably a bioweapon. And they just got out of control.

[Andy]

They're just thinking of everything. It's like that fog they put over San Francisco. And now we got mosquitoes. And this was in the 50s.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

They're doing something today.

[Clarissa]

The fleas, Dude. That's why chickens are illegal.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Clarissa]

Can't control the fleas if you got chickens.

[Josh]

Yeah. And this even goes back to Plum island where they did all the research on those animals and stuff. And people theorize that Lyme disease was actually created at Plum island. So it was infested with ticks. Or they like got these ticks to carry this disease and it just got out of control. Now we have Lyme disease and now we have that new thing going around. Talk about, is this still happening that where these ticks bite you and people are now allergic to meat.

[Andy]

Yeah. That's crazy.

[Josh]

Have you not heard that?

[Lily]

No.

[Josh]

There's. So it's like a new hybrid or a evolution of this disease that ticks can carry to where if it bites you, people now cannot consume meat without getting sick.

[Lily]

Wow.

[Andy]

That would tick me off. I would ruin my life.

[Clarissa]

Did you see they figured out the. The pig meat thing. Did we already talk about the solution? Why it was turning blue?

[Josh]

Oh, yeah. The feedback.

[Clarissa]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Or it was like the pesticides or whatever.

[Clarissa]

The rat pesticide.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Clarissa]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Oh my gosh But DARPA today started in 2016. They're doing a thing called the Insect. Sorry, the Insect Allies Program. Basically what they're doing is they're researching. Can we. Darpa? Yeah, right. Who was buying nuclear weapons?

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

They don't make weapons. They're behind the. The science and research behind making the weapons. I said behind like 20 times. Yeah, but what they did, what they're doing is they're infecting insects with these certain viruses, releasing them into crops to where these insects go, bring the viruses to the plants to help these plants be more resilient to drought, different types of potential foreign bio weapons or whatever. But they're saying you probably shouldn't be doing that. And the fact that you can easily weaponize that to where you can infect these bugs with a virus that kills the crops or kills the people that eat them. Kills the people that eat them.

[Clarissa]

How is it okay to run experiments when you don't actually have, like, a closed system like these just go wherever.

[Lily]

That's what I'm saying.

[Andy]

They just don't have the resources. So they're just like. I mean, we have all this land with all these people, and these are our guinea pigs.

[Clarissa]

Like, imagine you're trying to do an off grid, like, organic thing, and then the farm next to you is getting GMO'd with mosquito something.

[Lily]

Well, and that's what was happening a lot with Monster. What is it? Monstera.

[Andy]

I don't know.

[Lily]

Whatever it was, they would have these genetically modified seeds that were, like, patented, and they would blow off in the wind and go into all these smaller crops, and then they'd sue the. The big guys. There's just like. No, it's sue the smaller farms, but there's. When you're practicing those things in that way, there's no control, there's no mitigation. I don't even care.

[Clarissa]

Yeah.

[Lily]

You know what I'm saying?

[Clarissa]

I know someone who works for them.

[Lily]

Oh, really?

[Josh]

People are saying this whole DARPA thing, though, it's just a face for them actually developing bioweapons because it's the whole. We talked about, like, the weather control. Right. You can potentially destroy a country just by weather manipulation. It's like you can't prove it.

[Clarissa]

Yeah, dude, we don't. But we don't have a history of weaponizing anything and everything we can or.

[Lily]

About having interest in, like, controlling every other part of the world for gain.

[Clarissa]

Doesn't sound like us.

[Josh]

So when you do a bug, you just release these bugs. You can do it in A box. You can do it wherever.

[Andy]

You sound like a crazy person. Like, what? We weaponized Mosquito. You sound insane, dude. I mean, like, there. Yeah. There's plausible denial. It's crazy. And it's, like, crazy. You're leaving no evidence. Like, you just. You're certainly just done.

[Josh]

I think that's just. They just totally gaslit Cuba. Probably big, you know, because this is during, like, the whole, like, trying to, like, what's his name? Fidel Castro, like, the tensions between the US And Cuba. And they probably were just doing this little stuff.

[Andy]

You test. You test it in America, where you can observe.

[Josh]

Mm.

[Andy]

Whereas if you were testing it overseas or something, you wouldn't be able to observe it and have the actual, like, you know, data. But then as soon as it's confirmed, you're like, okay, now we can weaponize it. Now we can move it overseas or, you know, somewhere else.

[Josh]

Yeah, it's crazy.

[Andy]

I want to just trust somebody, so I want to be able to trust.

[Josh]

Sorry, you can't.

[Lily]

But you can't trust in the Lord. Guys, let's bring it back. Bring it back.

[Josh]

I got one more. It's a short one.

[Lily]

I need some hope.

[Andy]

Please.

[Josh]

The Edgewood Arsenal Experiments.

[Andy]

Edgewood Arsenal. Experience.

[Josh]

Experiments.

[Andy]

Experiments.

[Lily]

Experience.

[Andy]

Experience. I bet it was an experience.

[Josh]

This was ran from the 1950s to the 1970s. US soldiers used as guinea pigs for testing chemical warfare agents. Exposures included nerve gas, mustard gas, lsd, pcp, and bz, which is a powerful hallucinogen in various experimental drugs. Many servicemen only learned that they were given these things decades later.

[Lily]

Wow.

[Josh]

So literally using your own military as guinea pigs.

[Andy]

Yeah, it's kind of like that. The movie Jacob's Ladder. You see that one? Yeah.

[Josh]

Which I find it interesting that it started in the 1950s after. Was it Operation Paperclip where we brought over all those Nazi scientists who were probably testing this stuff already.

[Lily]

Yeah, Nazis. I mean, they were doing math on the Nazis. Right. So, like, we know that.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Clarissa]

But, yeah, they lost their. Their. Their test subjects. So we need to continue testing if you want the science to advance.

[Josh]

Yeah. And, like. Well, we can't test it on the US Population. Yeah, but they also did.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

CIA was known for. I mean, what's it, MK Ultra?

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

They're just putting LSD in people's drinking water.

[Andy]

Yeah. Because they need. They. They need to see on a larger scale, too, with everyday people who are unassuming, who aren't military, who have not signed papers.

[Clarissa]

Yeah.

[Andy]

You know, it's like the Blob situation where you had all this weird stuff falling from the sky. And you want to see because there's different aspects of it. Like psychological aspects of how people react to certain things happening around them. Like, they have to study everything.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Not just the effects of the people infected.

[Josh]

And it just makes you wonder. It's like all this stuff that I just read out is declassified information.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Imagine what is classified.

[Lily]

Oh, dude.

[Andy]

And what's gonna be coming to light later.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

And they're like, oh, that makes sense.

[Clarissa]

Or what?

[Andy]

What does? What happened?

[Clarissa]

What's so bad that they never do. Like, we can't ever declassify this.

[Josh]

Yeah. But it makes you wonder if like just mosquitoes. Just doing with mosquitoes.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And like now we're like putting up like 5G towers and doing all this stuff with technology. It's like we're probably just a bunch of guinea pigs. They're testing out stuff on us, dude.

[Lily]

And like, we're talking about kind of like all these, like, you know, we're talking about like nuclear fallout and how it's affecting us and the food and everything that's happening around us and how going to be affecting our health. My functional medicine doctor was telling me though, too. Even more than 5G, we put off energy as human beings. Right. We're made up of atoms and all this stuff and we got ions and all that. It puts off negative and positive energy.

[Josh]

Nucleus.

[Lily]

And she's saying, we as humans, mitochondria, we as humans should not be living in this close proximity to this many humans living in something like a city. You are getting energy all the time. And this sounds like witchy. Whatever.

[Josh]

It's not a little hippie dippy.

[Lily]

It's science, Right? Chill out.

[Josh]

I wasn't thinking about people. I'm thinking about the freaking 20 million screens we have in here.

[Lily]

Well, it's screens and it's also being surrounded by people. I think.

[Josh]

What if people feed your energy?

[Lily]

Like you're. You're an extrovert.

[Josh]

No, like, if it's like a collect, like those little rocks.

[Lily]

Oh.

[Josh]

Like vibrations that are the bottom of the ocean that they're collecting. How they all collectively feed into one energy source. Maybe God designed us as humans to do the same. We shouldn't be in isolation.

[Lily]

I think your energy is messing with my energy.

[Josh]

We got some negative energy.

[Andy]

You guys got a Wallace line between you two right now.

[Lily]

Here's all I'm saying is I agree. I agree that when. When you're in a city though, too, and it's buzzing. Don't you just feel sicker.

[Josh]

Yeah, but not by the people. By the concrete poopa that's on the sidewalk.

[Andy]

We went to Nashville. There's a naked guy on the street. You're like, come on.

[Lily]

When we went to St. Louis, Josh was wearing Crocs and he stepped in a human turd and he got.

[Josh]

Went right through the holes of the.

[Lily]

Crop in his toes.

[Josh]

Like, you know the play DOH thing where you push it down, the hair comes out?

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

It's really poop on.

[Andy]

Did you freak out?

[Josh]

I was like, I need a bathroom now.

[Lily]

Human poop.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Speaking of gases, though, Reminded me of a story. You know, I got tear gas one time. Whoa. By a SWAT team.

[Josh]

Nuh.

[Andy]

Not intentionally. We. There we are in Joplin and there was this big like standoff in this house. Like this guy was going crazy, had a gun, like multiple guns. And it was right down the road from the church we were at. And so we all, like all the pastors went out and we're just like hanging out on the street. And you could see it's like less than a block away and they have it all blocked off. No joke. They brought on like the SWAT tank trucks and everything. And it's going on for a long time. There's on Facebook lives and stuff. So we're just chilling, watching it. Everyone's like, all the people of the community are just like, this is crazy. Right? And we're all sitting there and then suddenly we see just this huge mass of smoke. They broke in and everything. And we're watching the live that like soup. Someone's super up close and like, oh, they just tear gassed them and everything. And then suddenly just a big gulf of wind started blowing in our direction. And then everyone around us and no joke, guys were like, like dry heaving, spitting up stuff. Our eyes were all itchy and it was in our throats. No joke. All night I had just like. I could feel the burning in my lungs. Gosh, it was crazy.

[Josh]

Imagine being in that house though, and receiving the full blunt of that.

[Andy]

That's what I' crazy.

[Lily]

I wonder when was that?

[Andy]

2017.

[Clarissa]

Why?

[Lily]

Reminds me it was someone that that happened to in Joplin, Missouri.

[Josh]

I don't.

[Lily]

Oh. Anyway.

[Andy]

What?

[Josh]

This is so mysterious.

[Lily]

We can talk about it later. I just want to say their name.

[Josh]

We can stay on Patreon though.

[Lily]

Yeah, we can.

[Josh]

Patreon.com Ninjas or butterflies?

[Andy]

Absolutely.

[Josh]

Speaking of tear gas.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Peter Thiel.

[Andy]

Peter Thiel. What is old Peter up to? Our good friend, our best friend, our most trusted Ally, Peter Thiel, I just.

[Josh]

Saw that he is doing. He. There's an advertisement on Instagram that there's this conference called. Was it the AX17? Is that what it's called?

[Clarissa]

That's who puts it on.

[Josh]

But he's doing a four day seminar on the Antichrist.

[Lily]

What? How is he an expert?

[Josh]

Listen, I read this article by Christianity today about the Acts 17 ministry or whatever, and there's some parts where I'm just like, this seems weird, but their whole thing is I think they're based in San Francisco, California, and I think their intentions are good. They want to reach the tech industry with the gospel. I don't know if they're doing it the right way. I don't know. I'm not gonna judge because the gospel's a gospel and people can receive it, however.

[Andy]

Sure.

[Josh]

You know, but apparently the guy, the husband of the founder of Acts 17, he used to work for Peter Thiel at Palantir, and they went over to one tech industry dude's house to do like this like, house church kind of thing. And Peter Thiel was there. And Peter Thiel just started talking about like the Antichrist and stuff.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And all. Apparently all these Silicon Valley tech dudes were just like, we didn't know Peter Thiel was a Christian. And it's like, is he though? I mean, because his whole. He emphasizes a ton on the Antichrist.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And I watched that interview from the New York Times, like that podcast, we mentioned it before, but he brought up the conversation of the Antichrist and Peter Till made no sense. I mean, the concepts that he was like, coming up with, the guy was pushing back a lot. It was a little annoying because the guy's like, I'm just like, let Peter Thiel talk.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Guy kept on cutting me off and arguing with him, but he's like, Andrew could probably explain this part a little bit better, but I did want to say about the Acts 17 thing, there's this. This is a snippet from like one of their church services that they did. They said, we did a Sunday service at Gary Tan's home. He's a famous tech investor and his home was converted. Is a converted missions church somewhere in San Francisco. We had alcohol, we had really good local food. We had DJ Canvas again remixing worship beats in the background. CeCe Winis with Jake Carlo. And then we had Peter Thiel come back to give a talk about political theology.

[Andy]

Cool.

[Lily]

Oh, my gosh. What does that even mean?

[Andy]

Seems pretty solid.

[Josh]

Just. Let's just judge based off the Fruits. The atmosphere doesn't sound like a very good atmosphere for spreading the gospel. I don't know.

[Andy]

Yeah, we don't. Yeah, but I mean, Jack Harlow. What is Jack Harlow doing there? Performing music at a church service.

[Josh]

And DJ with Canvas Remixing Worship.

[Lily]

His. His seminar was called Holy Guacamole. Pilot event with Peter Thiel.

[Andy]

We're having tacos.

[Josh]

All right, go get into.

[Clarissa]

So Peter Thiel is a libertarian, and there's a professor that he studied under whose political and ideological views he like. In all, a lot of his quotes regarding Christianity are direct quotes from this professor. And so I forget the name of the book, but Peter Thiel is basically puppeting this professor's ideas. I don't think he's saying they're my own, but it's clear that he has this person as an influence.

[Josh]

Yeah, he's, like, adopted his.

[Clarissa]

Yeah, he's very much a disciple of this professor. And so. Which is fine, but the. The professor and. And him are very, very. As far as, like, the Antichrist and stuff like that. There's this tension between the Apocalypse. Apocalypse coming, and the Antichrist is the hero that saves everyone from it. And so his entire thing is like, something's gonna happen that makes you choose one or the other. But he defines himself as far as his own religious views as a heterodoxical Christian, which is him using big words. It's the same root as heretic. And so he's saying, I don't hold to the convention. He doesn't believe you need to evangelize. He's like, my faith is real for me. I don't need to convince you of it. The truth of it doesn't rely on your conversion, which I understand that that is true.

[Lily]

Right.

[Clarissa]

But you cannot call yourself a believer. And the last thing that Jesus said after his three years of ministry, death and resurrection, he says, go and make disciples of all nations, teaching them to obey the things I've commanded you. You cannot be a follower of that human and say, I don't have to teach you to obey. It's in direct defiance.

[Andy]

The harvest is plentiful. The workers are few. Let's go.

[Clarissa]

Let's just go party in Silic. Silicon Valley.

[Josh]

DJ Canvas. But it's an awesome God, so Peter.

[Clarissa]

Thiel, I hope, is. He seems too smart to call him young in his faith. And for this to be a naivety, like, I think there is a political advantage that he's trying to pull from this. Like, you either believe in the Jesus of the Bible or you don't believe in Jesus. And so you don't get to pick and choose what you believe. And so I don't. That's what I know what. From the little bit of research I did. So that's all I want to assert. But. And that doesn't necessarily reflect poorly on Acts 17. I didn't do a deep dive into what they're doing. They could be doing good work. And then, you know, he's just a keynote that was like, hey, I want to talk about this. And they said, okay. I mean, how many churches with good intent have let someone take the stage? And then halfway through, you're listening to a guest speaker going, oh, no.

[Josh]

Well, they're good friends with Peter Thiel. That's the thing. Like, they know where he stands and stuff. And they said that he's well versed in the Antichrist. And my whole thing is like, I don't know. It just seems so, like, left behind. Kirk Cameron.

[Clarissa]

Like, it's a very, very specific eschatological viewpoint. Like.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Clarissa]

And I don't. I don't think the point. And I know this differs from a lot of guests we have on and a lot of people who listen to our show, but I don't think the point of all the prophecy and scripture is to know what's coming. To know what is coming, other than to know something is coming and our Lord and Savior wins. And so.

[Andy]

And there's a. But there's a big difference between having conversations and then being put up as a teacher.

[Clarissa]

Yeah.

[Andy]

And learning. There's. Bible's very clear of people who teach should be very careful. And.

[Clarissa]

And we talk about, like, Katy Perry has, like, she made that comment forever ago. And people were asking her political things. She's like, I'm just a musician. Why do you care? And, you know, like, but. But now it's almost like people who make a lot of money are like, he's. He's just a tech guy. I don't care what his theological viewpoint is, nor should anyone in Christendom.

[Josh]

What you should care about, though, is the fact that he is behind so many big things involving your everyday life. Yeah, yeah. You know? Yeah. And I did hear our future. Yeah, he did. One of his arguments for, like, transhumanism, you know, the involvement of AI and into our everyday human lives. His what I believe I got from it was his excuse was that Christians are transhumanism. It's the renewal of the spirit. You become a new person. Like, your. Your soul is transformed. You're a transhuman you're not living.

[Andy]

It's Christ that's living through you.

[Josh]

So that's almost like an excuse for his. Go ahead. Yeah. And I'm like, this sounds like the Antichrist. That's why he likes talking about so much, because it's him.

[Lily]

You're already transhuman, so put this chip in your brain so you can buy and sell things.

[Andy]

Right.

[Clarissa]

It sounds. When he talks about, like, using technology to. Because he. He admits, like, living forever or, like, eternal health, like, those are goals, which I get. If you're trying to, like, solve degeneration or cancer or any of these things, a perfect solution would be your body just doesn't fade. But, like, when you're. When you're looking at him, talk about this, it sounds Babel. Like Tower of Babel. Like, like, we're gonna solve all of the problems that our humanity has been cursed with.

[Josh]

And that's what that guy's pushback was from the New York Times. He's like, you're talking about this threat and stuff. He's like, but you own companies. That is part of the threat, like Palantir.

[Andy]

Right.

[Josh]

And he's like, how do you excuse that? And it was just kind of this word jigsaw puzzle.

[Clarissa]

Yeah. And anyone who refers to themselves as a heterodoxical Christian instead of a heretic, it's like, yeah, that's what you're doing.

[Josh]

That's so funny. I didn't hear that. He labels himself that way. Yeah, that's what it is.

[Clarissa]

I mean, that's what Chat GPT said about his views. And there were links. You can click where they say he said that. But, yeah, I didn't hear him say that.

[Josh]

Yeah. So this is.

[Clarissa]

This is for fun.

[Josh]

And obviously we're Joe, like, Pete, Peter, Jill.

[Andy]

He's our bud.

[Josh]

He's our friend. I don't know how many times we have to say this guy.

[Andy]

Come on the podcast.

[Clarissa]

Yeah, please watch that be the completely wrong word.

[Josh]

But just look out for deception, people. That's the whole point of the story.

[Lily]

Yeah, exactly.

[Josh]

And like.

[Andy]

And the only way to do that is by having a personal and authentic and genuine relationship with Jesus every day. It is a picking up your cross every day decision. You have to make that effort every day. It is not. Well, I got baptized while I was raised in the church. It's a constant decision every day to say, I'm putting you first. There's constant prayer happening throughout the day. That's the only way we're gonna be able to discern any of this stuff confidently. And there's gonna be a lot of mysteries and unknowns, but there's stuff that we can stand on and say, well, simply, that's not biblical, because this is.

[Lily]

Right and this is wrong.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Clarissa]

You'll appreciate this, Josh. So the word is heterodoxy. Different belief holding views that diverge from official doctrine but are not outright heresy is how that's defined. In contrast, its opposite would be orthodoxy.

[Lily]

Interesting.

[Clarissa]

So he's literally the opposite of pure.

[Josh]

Nice.

[Clarissa]

Maybe not complete opposite, but it's.

[Josh]

But, yeah. Not true. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's interesting.

[Clarissa]

Yeah. So he is flying in the face of orthodoxy, which.

[Josh]

It's actually kind of funny because I was reading last night in Revelation about the seven churches, you know, that were Jesus wrote, like, send this letter to the angel of this church.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And I read this one thing from Acts 17. I think that's what they're called, their ministry, that thing of their church service. I'm like, that almost lines up exactly with one of these churches to where Jesus is like, you're getting drunk, you're doing this, all the debauchery stuff. And he's like, cut it out or I'm going to blow your candle out. You know, so. But that's a. That's a. It's a not. It's like Jesus did that so that they would fix their weight.

[Lily]

Exactly.

[Josh]

You know, it wasn't like, you're done.

[Andy]

He's not trying to condemn them right then and there. It's. Yeah, I'm warning you.

[Josh]

He said, you're actually doing the wrong. Starts off with, you did. You've been doing this. Right. But this is the one thing that you've not been doing right.

[Andy]

Yeah. It's just like Paul's letters. It's just like, like, listen, I love you, but golly, straighten up.

[Josh]

Yeah. Maybe don't serve alcohol in your church.

[Andy]

Like, yeah, I mean, like, that's like, for a normal service. That doesn't sound productive.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Especially for people who struggle. I mean, like, you don't know. You don't know who struggles with whatever. It's like, centered around Jesus. You can have celebrities, you can have these people, but it's like, yeah, you just want to be able to look at stuff and confidence. Like, obviously we don't know. We haven't been in the service. But you just have to. Perception is reality in this world. And we have to be careful of how we're being, what we're being known for. Like. And that's what I hope. Like, hopefully we People look at this podcast, can watch it and know that it's like, yeah, they talk a lot of silliness and they don't know a whole lot, but at the end of the day, the core is Jesus. That's what we have to. I mean, like, that's the goal.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Clarissa]

And there's different areas of expertise. I think the thing that's dangerous about Silicon Valley is the amount of intelligence that lives in those spaces technologically. Like, they're advanced thinkers. But when the faith is shallow and you have all of the arrogance of an intellect, you get a really dangerous culty concoction.

[Andy]

Dude, you look at the Bible, how many people were not educated? Yeah, we're literally the rocks and the pillars of the church.

[Clarissa]

Dude, the pillars of Christianity are. You find them more typically in impoverished, uneducated communities, like, breaking bread together, having all things in common, taking care of each other. Those aren't things that the elite. The elite typically consume and crush each other. It's people in the impoverished communities who understand what community really is.

[Lily]

And not only that, it just feels like so much of what they represent as an outsider perceiving is just like embracing the worldliness and the evil nature in us. You know what I'm saying? Josh is reading this book right now, and he keeps sharing these little tidbits with me that are so special about the desert fathers those early Christians represented. And to see actual accounts and action put to humility is just, like, so inspiring. And it's just completely counterculture to what we see right now, you know, And I'm listening to that Josiah, whatever, Father Josiah, the orthodox guy, and some of the things that he's bringing up is just, like, the absence of Christianity in our. In our country and in our politics and how that is a reason for our downfall. And he's calling for a re. Embracing of that. And like, even, like, on the level of, like, legality, like when people go to court, like they used to back in the day, look at religion as a way to decide guilty or not guilty. You know, it used to be so ingrained in our daily lives, and now it is not. Now there's so much secularism. Like, we do look at churches and, like, this is our religion, this is secular. He's calling for us to re. Embrace that. And for me, I'm just thinking, like, that's not possible. We're moving toward the opposite of that. You know what I'm saying? And, like. And we kind of should expect that as Christians. Anyway. Where was I going with that? Just as Christians, I guess, embracing being counterculture and just remembering bring God into your daily life in everything that you do.

[Josh]

Well, that's how you affect culture, too. I mean, you think about Rome that was persecuting Christians. They were literally killing Christians. It was illegal to be a Christian. And through their perseverance of being counterculture, ended up becoming a Christian empire. You know, whether or not you. There's some waves in that, but like Constantine, you know, like one of the first Christian emperors who made Christianity legal.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

That affected. So, like saying that we can't affect politics and stuff. You actually. I think you can. If you just look at history and know the power of God. It's like us being counterculture and not just saying it's never going to change. It's like, it could.

[Clarissa]

The gospel is redemptive.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

We underestimate God's power in that whole thing. It's when we say it's no longer I who live, but Christ in me, it's like, what do you want from me, God? Like, you have, like, it's that daily decision, and then you have no idea what God has planned, especially if you're a person in power or leadership. It's like, golly, if Peter Thiel started teaching the preaching the gospel, started living his life as such, it's like the amount of change that could transpire through that is insane.

[Clarissa]

Even the doom that we feel. Right. Like, the Bible tells us we're supposed to pray and be thankful for our suffering because it creates a perseverance and strengthens our faith. But then you think about, we were told the persecution's coming and to rejoice when it does. And when you look at history, diaspora, people being pushed out of areas is actually what expands the kingdom. So going back to the Great Commission, go and tell. And when we sit in our, you know, holy huddles and don't. He's like, okay, that's fine. The gospel will go forward. But, you know, maybe something's going to happen that chases you out.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Clarissa]

And you'll learn to rejoice when you see the gospel.

[Andy]

Go, yeah, because it's going to happen.

[Clarissa]

It's going to happen.

[Andy]

It's not an if, it's a win.

[Clarissa]

But that's just a mindset thing. Right. Like, the kingdom is expanding, even if it means you're being sent from your home. So finding joy even in the midst of all the conspiracies we talk about.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Clarissa]

Like, it could be the expanse and the method by which the gospel expands.

[Andy]

So I think was C.S. lewis I think said the people that do most, the most for this world are the people who think of the next. It's like that's got to be our mindset. We just got to be thinking what is heaven going to be like? What is heaven? What does Jesus really want? Yeah, we could play it out here.

[Josh]

He also said there's really cool quote. He said the line the witch and the wardrobe.

[Andy]

Wow, that is so deep.

[Lily]

Turkish delights.

[Josh]

Hey stuff. But we have some cool stories.

[Clarissa]

There's your hope beast of Jevudon.

[Josh]

Yes. That is going to be a Patreon story. And I also have a really crazy story from Ireland in the 1700s. Ireland sick. About someone coming back from the dead.

[Andy]

Oh, and I got a story, a clip to show you guys about how police are now have using drones for bigger operations. It's really neat.

[Josh]

Sweet. Well guys, go to patreon.com/ninjas are butterflies. Or join our YouTube membership, the Ninja elite. You get the extra episodes or. Yeah. Or additional episodes that we do every week. You get discounts on merch. We're gonna start doing more private live streams for our audience.

[Andy]

Yes, yes.

[Josh]

Behind the scenes footage of what we do. Blah blah, blah.

[Andy]

It's all good stuff. And also if you want some ninja merch, guess what? We got that new hat. We're gonna be dropping new merch for the holiday season. So please keep an all lookout for [e-mail] and if you want to come.

[Josh]

See us live in person, florida tour.com. jacksonville, Tampa, Orlando. Come see us. Come hang out with us.

[Andy]

Last chance is limited seats left. It's only in a couple weeks, guys. It's gonna be an absolute blast.

[Josh]

Tickets are cheap. They're like 20 something bucks.

[Andy]

That's pretty cheap for seeing this.

[Josh]

Yeah. And if you need customers. Did you already do that?

[Andy]

Not custom merch. No.

[Josh]

You need custom merch for you, your organization, your school, your business, whatever. Sunday cool.com we do it here.

[Andy]

Support us. Please get your shirts, your T shirts, stickers, whatever, through us. We'd really appreciate it.

[Josh]

We do do it.

[Andy]

Also, if you haven't liked this video and subscribed, hit the bell. We would appreciate that as well.

[Josh]

Very much appreciated.

[Andy]

Wow. Greatest podcast. Listen, all the podcasts is truly the best. The best. China. China. They've got the power. They've got the power. But we've got the strength. And we've got the podcast. Have you ever listened to Chinese podcasts? I don't think so.

[Josh]

That's good.

[Andy]

I don't think So I like how he like leans forwards.

[Josh]

All right guys, love you, Love you. Bye bye.

[Andy]

See you on a Patreon. What you're about to see wow may disturb you.

[Josh]

Nominal. If any of you know what these.

[Clarissa]

Multi decade UAP are.

[Josh]

Bottle nose fish.

[Andy]

Pigs. There's a massive police response. Oh, the dolphin thing. Dolphin style attack.

[Josh]

I don't want to be Russia through the the days of my life anymore. Not up for discussion.