Ninjas Are Butterflies – Episode 160 Summary

Podcast: Ninjas Are Butterflies
Episode Title: Real Skinwalker Experience, Oura Ring Conspiracy, Mr. Beast Bunker w/ Jake Hutcheson
Date: September 19, 2025
Hosts: Josh Hooper, Andy DeNoon, with panelists Lily, Andrew, and guest Jake Hutcheson

Episode Overview

This wild, comedic episode dives deep into a mix of spooky folklore (especially skinwalker tales), health and fitness banter, viral conspiracy theories, and the group’s signature unpredictable humor. Special guest Jake Hutcheson joins the crew to share his terrifying real-life skinwalker encounter, weigh in on internet conspiracies—from Oura ring data collection to Mr. Beast’s access to government nuclear bunkers—and add hilarious commentary to the group’s raucous roundtable.

Key Segments & Discussion Points

1. Opening Banter & Song Challenge (00:01–07:36)

• The team pokes fun at sponsored ads, Jamaican cuisine, and an accidental live-podcast language mishap in Jamaica.
• Hosts celebrate unexpected popularity in Papua New Guinea podcast charts.
• Easygoing banter leads to an impromptu reggae/country/rock parody song—complete with “The Rock” as a mystical lake creature:
  • “I saw its eyes, and it wasn’t a shark, it was the Rock. Said, ‘You call me Dwayne, you’re mine now, but I mean you no pain.’” (06:54, Josh)

2. Question Time: “Is Jumping Good for You?” (08:05–12:35)

• Jake reads his own submitted listener question, serving a playful apology for “messing” with panelist Lily last episode.

• Panel divides: Lily insists jumping is good for bones, others joke about hidden meanings and government mind-control programs.

  • Quote: “You think that's good? For juveniles to be under manipulated programs like MK Ultra?” (12:06, Josh, jokingly)

• Quick side stories of minor trampoline injuries segue into the differences between fitness classes, solo workouts, and Jake’s “fathlete” journey.

3. Skinwalker Lore & Jake’s Real-Life Encounter (25:05–29:12)

• Jake’s Story:
  • In remote Colorado, Jake’s friend and his family drive at night and encounter a deer with a human-like face that chases their car—culminating in it running 70+ MPH alongside, banging on the driver’s window on its hind legs. The car is later found scratched and damaged. (26:15–28:11)
    • “It runs over to the window, and it's banging on the door. And it has, like, a human face. Deer on his hind legs with a human face running 80 next to them…” (27:07, Jake)
• The group debates the story’s authenticity and asks about corroborating local legends.

4. Skinwalkers Around the World—Mythology & History (29:12–41:38)

• Josh details Norse “bear seeker” (Berserker) lore, recounting Viking tales of supernatural battle rages and pelt-wearing shape-shifters.
  • “They felt no pain, had superhuman strength, could shrug off wounds that would usually kill a man…” (31:47, Josh)
• Panel explores parallels across cultures: African “leopard men,” Native American shapeshifters, Celtic selkies, Chinese/Japanese fox spirits.
• Discussion connects these tales to ideas of demonic possession, forbidden “Watcher” knowledge, and government-funded experiments (CIA’s Stargate/remote viewing project).
  • Quote: “Every culture on earth has skinwalkers… They go by different names.” (30:00, Josh)

5. Oura Ring Conspiracy & Mr. Beast’s Government Bunker Access (53:00–57:00)

• Andy reveals Spain’s “Stonehenge” (the Dolmen of Guadalperal), intentionally covered up and flooded by 20th-century authorities for political/religious reasons.
• Oura Ring segment: (72:08–74:22)
  • The panel jokes darkly about mass biometric data collection and Oura’s partnership with the Pentagon and Peter Thiel’s Palantir.
  • “They’ve teamed up with Palantir… Department of Defense, they’re using Oura rings for soldiers to collect biometric data…” (73:12, Josh)
• Mr. Beast Bunker:
  • The group speculate why Mr. Beast was granted rare access to the infamous Colorado nuclear command bunker; they theorize on controlled narratives and influence.

6. Physical Health, Workouts, & “Fathlete” Stories (14:47–24:00)

• Jake discusses his journey as a self-described “fathlete,” efforts to break the mold in female-dominated fitness classes, and creative attempts to build habits (mixing push-ups with fishing).
  • “I’m one of the number one fathletes… I want to be jacked.” (15:59, Jake)
• Debate around workout programs, class culture, and cult-like group fitness.

7. Orthodox Christianity, Reverence, and Iconography (59:46–68:39)

• Andy and Lily describe a recent experience at a Greek Orthodox service—discussing worship boundaries, reverence, the meaning and use of religious icons, and differences from modern American church culture.
• Thoughtful reflections on global Christianity, Eucharist restrictions, and what it means to “worship with the saints.”
  • “They believe that when they are worshipping, it’s literally heaven and earth—the veil gets thin… worshipping with angels, with saints, all in the room.” (62:13, Josh)
• A comparison to “secret church” experiences around the world.

8. Comedy, Would-You-Rather, & The Owl Theory (69:03–91:01)

• Would You Rather:

  • “Magic van that lets you teleport/time-travel anywhere” vs. “Magic ring that absorbs any book’s knowledge.” Panel splits: some choose the ring, some the van (Jake would park his van outside Viking bear-seeker battles).
    • “Imagine just touching a book and being like, I know everything.” (70:13, Josh)

• The Owl Theory:

  • Jake tells a wild story about rescuing an owl in the middle of the road, which leads into the infamous “Staircase” documentary’s suggestion that an owl (not a husband) may have fatally wounded a woman in a highly-publicized murder case.
    • “She gets out. She’s like, ‘Please don’t kill me. This is my worst fear.’ ...She grabbed a towel or a shirt… and grabbed it with her hands and moved it all the way under this tree.” (89:38, Jake)

• Laughter, horror, and speculation on the sinister nature of owls ensue.

9. Lightning-Round Comedy & Fish Mishaps (82:39–86:46)

• The group swaps stories of grisly fishing injuries and wild dock accidents.
• Jake recalls hurling a biting hermit crab across Petco as a panicked child.
• Panel “one-ups” with tales of foot injuries, cleats on docks, and oyster shell hazards.

10. Rapid-Fire: Monuments, Historical “Mount Rushmore”, and Final Jokes (78:48–82:23)

• If the hosts could customize Mount Rushmore, they’d vote for Nicholas Cage, Tony from Tony’s Pizza, and others—Jake picks Casey Neistat and Jocko Willink.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Real-Life Skinwalker Story:
  “Deer on his hind legs with a human face running 80 next to them in the middle of the night in Colorado…” (27:07, Jake)

• On Global Lore:
  “Every culture on earth has skinwalkers… They go by different names.” (30:00, Josh)

• Norse Berserkers:
  “They felt no pain, had superhuman strength, could shrug off wounds that would usually kill a man...” (31:47, Josh)

• Would-You-Rather:
  "Imagine just touching a book and be like, I know everything." (70:13, Josh)

• Oura Ring Conspiracy:
  “The Department of Defense, they’re using Oura rings for soldiers to collect biometric data. But... there's gonna be weird loopholes in access.” (73:12, Josh)

• Orthodox Worship:
  "They believe that when they are worshipping, it’s literally heaven and earth—the veil gets thin... worshipping with angels, with saints, all in the room." (62:13, Josh)

• Owl Rescue:
  “She gets out. She’s like, ‘Please don’t kill me. This is my worst fear.’” (89:38, Jake)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• [06:54] – "The Rock in the Lake" song parody
• [08:05] – “Is Jumping Good for You?” listener question
• [25:05–29:12] – Jake’s skinwalker story (Colorado deer creature)
• [29:12–41:38] – Skinwalkers worldwide and “bear seeker” legends
• [53:00–57:00] – Spanish Stonehenge & Oura Data Conspiracy; Mr. Beast government bunker
• [59:46–68:39] – Greek Orthodox service reflection
• [69:03–71:32] – Would you rather: magic van or book-absorbing ring
• [89:38–91:01] – Owl in the road; “Staircase” documentary and owl theory
• [82:39–86:46] – Fishing accidents & animal injury stories
• [78:48–82:23] – Custom Mount Rushmore rapid-fire

Tone & Language

• Irreverent, fast-paced comedy punctuated by wild sound effects, situational banter, genuine curiosity, and the group’s willingness to jump from conspiratorial deep-dives to slapstick, self-aware jokes.
• Language remains playful and family-friendly, with running jokes about “being a clean show.”
• Jake’s stories add dry wit and authenticity, especially regarding regional folklore and fitness struggles.
• Serious, thoughtful moments emerge around topics like faith practices, cultural reverence, and global legends.

Final Thoughts

Episode 160 delivers on scares, laughs, and mind-bending “what if” scenarios. From a firsthand “skinwalker” experience and illuminating links between world folklore and government secrets, to an in-depth exploration of faith traditions and a closing parade of physical mishap stories, the Ninjas Are Butterflies panel flexes its signature mix of knowledge, absurdity, and heart. Jake Hutcheson’s recurring role as both storyteller and comic foil fits perfectly, and his presence promises more adventures to come.

For fans of folklore, friendly conspiracies, and chaotic group humor, this episode is a can't-miss.

[For Patreon members: extra content promised on Jake’s family history and nuclear bomb test videos. Follow @Hutch.Jake for more from the guest.]