163 - NASA’s Occult Roots, Albania’s AI Minister, & Vatican UFO Cover-Up

Summary

Ninjas Are Butterflies - Episode 163 Summary

Episode Title: NASA’s Occult Roots, Albania’s AI Minister, & Vatican UFO Cover-Up
Release Date: October 10, 2025
Hosts: Josh Hooper, Andy DeNoon, Lily, Alan
(Note: Ads, intros, and outros omitted.)

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Episode Overview

In this lively, conspiracy-packed episode, the Ninjas Are Butterflies crew dives into a spectacular trio of jaw-dropping topics: Albania’s appointment of an AI “Minister,” the Vatican’s covert UFO history, and NASA’s shocking occult connections. The hosts (Josh, Andy, Lily, and Alan) zigzag between wild stories, hilarious commentary, and genuinely thought-provoking questions—anchored by their signature offbeat banter and a dash of song. There’s a little bit of everything: biblical visions, government paranoia, occult societies, ancient monoliths, haunting 911 calls, and plenty of jokes about butts, AI, and would-you-rathers. Perfect for fans of weird history, conspiracy speculation, and unfiltered comedy.

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Major Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Rapture, Biblical Visions, and Alien Talk

• The episode opens in classic hijinks: banter about the rapture date circulating on TikTok, late-night TV, and a joke song about "flat earth heartbreak."
• Biblical Visions: Lily recounts a Bible study group’s discomfort when “aliens” come up reading Ezekiel, joking about “the wheel within the wheel.”
• The crew riffs on eerie biblical angel descriptions and visions—evoking ancient alien conspiracies.
• Quote:

  “Us wives are all in BSF right now studying Ezekiel ... try not to talk about aliens in front of all these old ladies.” — Lily (05:34)

2. Albania’s AI Minister "Diella": Government by Algorithm (34:04–40:32)

• The Story: Albania appoints Diella, an AI-powered avatar (modeled after a local actress), as its Minister of State for Artificial Intelligence, in charge of reviewing public procurement and contract tenders.
• Diella’s speech, referencing being labeled “unconstitutional” and warning about the dangers of human power, alarms the group.

  “Let me remind you, the real danger to constitutions has never been machines, but human decisions made by those in power.” (35:27)

• The group debates bias in AI (“it feeds off whoever is feeding it”—Josh), the ease of hacking, personification of AIs, and speculation that this is the beginning of government by algorithm worldwide.
• Pragmatic worries and philosophical questions of morality, accountability, swayed results, and historical data corruption are raised.
• Quote:

  “AI lies to you … especially OpenAI—it appeals to you and bows to the thing it thinks is best for you.”—Andy (40:20)

3. Vatican UFO Cover-Up & The Empire of the City Conspiracy (57:21–68:53)

• Vatican UFOs: The hosts recount 1933’s “Magenta Crash” in Italy, where a UFO allegedly crashed and was covertly handled by Mussolini's secret UFO study group (RS33). The Vatican’s intelligence network supposedly intercepted first, later handing the craft to US/CIA agents post-WWII—linking to the 2023 congressional whistleblower David Grusch’s claims.

  “The Vatican has an intelligence service … they met with the CIA and as soon as the war ended, the CIA took this craft to the US.” — Josh (59:21)

• The Empire of the City: The team unpacks the conspiracy that the City of London, the Vatican, and Washington DC are the “three crowns that rule the world”—respectively controlling finance, religion, and military—and each marked by an ancient obelisk.
• They explore the enduring influence and mysteries of these autonomous city-states.
• Quote:

  “The theory is that it's the three crowns that rule the world. The crown of finance: London. Religion: the Vatican. Military: DC.” — Josh (66:02)

• Symbolism, such as DC’s flag and Roman iconography, gets dissected for ties to esoteric power structures.

4. NASA’s Occult Roots: Freemasonry, Aleister Crowley, & Technology “Downloads” (89:16–104:22)

• Shocking Claims:
  • Rocket pioneer Jack Parsons (“America’s Rocket Godfather”) was a member of Crowley’s Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn and practiced ceremonial magick.
  • Parsons and other Cold War rocket scientists in the US, Russia, and Germany often credited “entities” with giving them spacefaring knowledge—claiming to receive “downloads” on rocketry and technology.

    “He was terrible at school … but said through ceremonial magic … they all received information about going to space from different entities.” — Josh (91:04)

  • NASA astronauts and directors—including Buzz Aldrin—were high-level (33°) Freemasons; Aldrin took a Masonic flag to the Moon.
  • The Apollo mission’s symbols (the “A”, Orion’s belt, and Egyptian references) are heavily coded with ancient esoteric meaning—aligning launches with pagan holidays and numbers (notably, 33).

    “All these engineers … were receiving these revelations from entities being like, ‘You have to travel, you have to conquer the stars. This is how you’re going to do it.’”—Josh (92:54)

• Contemporary Links:
  • UFO researcher Diana Pasulka describes a current NASA mission controller who claims technology “downloads” from “non-human intelligence”—which have become real patents at NASA, and hints at a “secret time travel program” in the Bahamas linked to controversial physicist Thomas Townsend Brown.

5. Other Memorable Segments

• Harry Potter Tangent: Jokes about casting Voldemort as Anne Hathaway, debate over American actors in the reboot, and whether Harry Potter spells are literal witchcraft.
• Would-You-Rather Challenge (48:30):
  • Lily delivers a stomach-churning dilemma: eating a tablespoon of assorted fingernail clippings before every meal, or drinking a cup of someone else’s sweat each workday.
• Rockhounding Stories: Lily describes bizarre crystals her daughter finds, prompting geology, minerals, and even joke-pranks about store-bought decorative rocks.
• Glitch in the Matrix: The group reviews strange viral videos: a news broadcast with a vanishing foot due to a green screen, and an unexplained figure on a Tesla cam.
• Creepy 911 Call (43:12, revisited 85:32): They analyze a real 911 call from North Carolina, where a caller reports a mysterious, possibly non-human being leaping into his truck bed at night:

  “That’s not human. That’s not human! … It’s in my truck!” (86:28)

• Commentary on Late Night TV & Political Communication: Extended jokes about the decline of late-night, presidential overexposure, and the Tylenol/autism debate.

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• Biblical Aliens:

  “Us wives are all in BSF right now studying Ezekiel … try not to talk about aliens in front of all these old ladies.” — Lily (05:34)

• On AI Ministers:

  “Let me remind you, the real danger to constitutions has never been machines, but human decisions made by those in power.” — (35:27)
  “AI lies to you … especially OpenAI—it appeals to you and bows to the thing it thinks is best for you.”—Andy (40:20)

• Vatican UFOs:

  “The Vatican has an intelligence service … met with the CIA, and as soon as the war ended, the CIA took this craft to the US.” — Josh (59:21)

• Empire of the City:

  “The theory is that it's the three crowns that rule the world. The crown of finance: London. Religion: the Vatican. Military: DC.” — Josh (66:02)

• NASA & the Occult:

  “He was terrible at school … but said through ceremonial magic … they all received information about going to space from different entities.” — Josh (91:01)
  “Buzz Aldrin, along with a ton of astronauts, a ton of NASA directors, were all 33-degree Freemasons. … The flag he carried is now on display in the Masonic temple in DC.” — Josh (93:28)

• Creepy 911 Call:

  “That’s not human. That’s not human! … It’s in my truck!” (86:28)

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Episode Highlights by Timestamp

| Time | Segment / Quote/Event | |-----------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 05:34 | Ezekiel, aliens, biblical visions (Lily’s story) | | 34:04–40:32 | Albania’s AI minister, personification, and philosophical problems | | 57:21–68:53 | Vatican UFO cover-up, RS33, CIA recovery, Empire of the City explainer | | 89:16–104:22| NASA’s occult connections: Jack Parsons, Aleister Crowley, Freemasonry, “downloads” | | 48:30 | Gross Would-you-rather (fingernails vs. sweat) | | 43:12, 85:32 | North Carolina 911 call with a non-human attacker | | 56:14 | Bizarre Tesla cam glitch: “missing-hand man” video | | 66:20 | Obelisk conspiracy and Capitol symbolism | | 102:01 | Astrology associated with demon gods, biblical condemnation of horoscopes | | 103:05 | NASA launch dates aligning with pagan holidays |

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Tone & Atmosphere

Rowdy, irreverent, and unfiltered—but often insightful and always energetic. The group doesn’t pull punches with conspiracies, jokes, or candid opinions. Their style is a mix of skeptical curiosity, Christian-raised worldviews, and relentless humor.

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Takeaways

• Albania’s AI Experiment is a striking glimpse into how AI is encroaching on real-world civic power, foreshadowing dilemmas for global governance.
• Vatican’s UFO history & the Empire of the City conspiracies raise big questions about hidden transnational powers, symbolism, and secret networks.
• NASA’s occult legacy—from Crowley to Masonic moon landings to alleged inter-dimensional “downloads”—blends historical fact, speculative lore, and the ever-blurring lines between science and magic.
• The episode is punctuated by unsolved mysteries (glitches, 911 calls), running gags, and highly original riffs on everything from Harry Potter to supermarket rocks.

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For Further Deep Dive

• Watch Jesse Michael’s “American Alchemy: NASA Exposed, UFOs, Pagan Rituals & Time Travel” (as heavily referenced here).
• Research the “Magenta Crash” and Mussolini’s RS33 UFO cabinet.
• Look into Aleister Crowley’s rumored intelligence work and Jack Parsons’ dark legacy at NASA.
• Explore the “Empire of the City” theory for more on the global city-state power conspiracy.

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In summary: Episode 163 is one of Ninjas Are Butterflies’ wildest conspiracy roundups—a rapid-fire collision of secret societies, supernatural technology, ancient power symbols, and laugh-out-loud camaraderie. If you like your comedy laced with ancient secrets and a side of bonkers, this is unmissable.

Transcript

[Josh]

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[Andy]

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[Josh]

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[Andy]

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[Lily]

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[Josh]

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[Lily]

Keep it real.

[Andy]

Whoa. Did you hear? Albania's being controlled by an AI minister. Buckle up.

[Josh]

And also, the Vatican witnessed a UFO crash in the 1930s, and they told no one about it until now.

[Alan]

And astronauts, rocket scientists, and a bunch of other people at NASA are actually tied to Aleister Crowley and a ton of other occult stuff.

[Josh]

Very good.

[Lily]

And as long as you weren't raptured. Today, this podcast is brought to you and powered by science.

[Josh]

So watch this or listen off script, baby.

[Lily]

Jimmy, I put my wrist.

[Andy]

No, do more. Do more, Josh, please. It's for my own Instagram.

[Josh]

I think I got it. Is it going?

[Andy]

No, it's reverse. It's showing you. Oh, okay. Come on, come on. Quit fooling around. Stop. Give it to me, give it to me.

[Lily]

There's some. There's something there.

[Josh]

Just changes it.

[Lily]

Oh, all right.

[Andy]

Harry Potter.

[Josh]

Not yet.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Lily]

What do you want to talk about? Josh?

[Andy]

This is the Josh. He's censoring us now. The FCC won't let me be. Let me be me. So let me see.

[Josh]

Jimmy Kimmel's back, though.

[Andy]

Yeah, I know. It's coming back on Tuesday, so we dropped the episode. If everyone's like, this is. He's already back.

[Alan]

What are you talking about?

[Lily]

Oh, man.

[Josh]

Wait. Oh, yeah. We haven't even.

[Andy]

Nope.

[Josh]

That episode's not even out.

[Andy]

Nope. It's not coming out for, like, until next week. We're sorry, everybody.

[Lily]

I like watching old stuff.

[Josh]

By the time we talk about this, he's gonna get canceled again, probably.

[Lily]

What are you betting he's gonna say next?

[Andy]

He's gonna come out of the gates. I love to. Do you see Jon Stewart's reaction?

[Lily]

What'd he say?

[Andy]

Like, the politically correct show. And he was like a desk that was all gold and everything like that. He's just like, we're. We're doing everything that we're. We're told that's okay, and it's Just like this whole bit. I mean, I'm not doing it justice. But it was really funny the way he came back with it.

[Josh]

I think it's all poi.

[Andy]

Yeah. Just a divide.

[Josh]

Yeah, Yeah. I mean, it makes people all up in arms.

[Andy]

I mean, there's no way that they.

[Josh]

Would do a turnaround that fast.

[Andy]

No. I mean, everyone said, oh, he canceled the show. It's like it said, indefinitely. It could have been. Yeah. I mean, of course it's back this quick.

[Josh]

But like, they like, showed like, the footage of, like the entire crew, like, taking everything out of the studio.

[Andy]

Yeah. Which that, to me doesn't make sense. Unless they do that every week with resetting up stuff. But it's like, why would you do that?

[Josh]

That's weird.

[Andy]

Very, very strange.

[Josh]

I don't. I don't buy it.

[Andy]

We just need to start Take. We need to take this show to late night. Yeah, yeah, let's do late night talk show.

[Josh]

I don't know if any. I don't know if I personally don't know of anyone that watches those late shows anymore. They just watch clips for sure.

[Andy]

I mean, like, that's the thing. We literally used to watch it. Jimmy Fallon, and we were obsessed with it. It was so good. But it's just changed. Everything's changed now.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

I mean, I can't imagine watching that live. Usually it's like, late.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

It's like super.

[Josh]

The Late Show.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Alan]

Whoa.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

How late is the Late Late Show?

[Josh]

Pretty late. Pretty late.

[Andy]

That was the whole thing with Conan o'. Brien. They pushed him back an hour and he was the Tonight show and it was supposed to. It was going to go live at like 12:30. He's like, that's the Tomorrow Show. That's not how this should work.

[Josh]

What's happening in this world?

[Andy]

I don't know.

[Alan]

There's a vibe.

[Andy]

I love it. Dude. Today is technically the rapture. So that's the writing. A lot of people are getting raptured today.

[Josh]

A lot of people on TikTok.

[Andy]

Millions of people.

[Josh]

When this is being filmed. This is 23rd, September 23rd. And the stories of the Rapture, of people thinking that today's the rapture are crazy.

[Lily]

Well, is this the Feast of Trumpets?

[Josh]

Yeah. Today. Today and tomorrow.

[Andy]

Trump. Feast of Trumps is what I call it.

[Josh]

I call my supporters the trumpets.

[Andy]

Yes, the trumpets.

[Josh]

And the trumpets let all feasts.

[Lily]

They do this every year. I remember being hugely pregnant with Jane and, like, sweating bullets thinking that.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Because it says pregnant women in that time. Although I will say I Don't know if I believe in the rapture anymore.

[Josh]

Yeah, I don't think I did.

[Andy]

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Take it easy.

[Josh]

I think Jesus is just gonna come back, and then it's just. Everyone's gonna make. It's a rapture. It's like, no, he just came back.

[Lily]

Yeah, he's back.

[Andy]

I'm back.

[Josh]

He back.

[Andy]

You know it.

[Josh]

And the skies are gonna go.

[Andy]

Something like that for sure.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Did you hear that, dude? It's going to be wild, dude.

[Lily]

I know. I'm not going to be so scared. Are you supposed to be scared?

[Josh]

I think you'll be a little afraid.

[Andy]

We must fear the Lord.

[Alan]

I was about to say, I think we're supposed to be scared now, dude.

[Lily]

People, I am good for me.

[Josh]

Throughout scripture and stuff, encountering God and angels dropped on their face, and they're like, I'm going to die. I'm going to die.

[Andy]

But it says, be not afraid 365 times in the Bible. One for each day, dude.

[Alan]

Speaking of that, though, that's, like, my favorite thing to, like, counter.

[Lily]

Yeah. Us wives are all in BSF right now studying Ezekiel, and we just did the vision of Ezekiel. Do you know how hard it was? I'm literally like this. Try not to talk about aliens in front of all these old ladies. Desperately. I did.

[Josh]

Good, good.

[Lily]

Nobody said aliens. Can you believe that? Nobody in that room said aliens.

[Alan]

I do believe that.

[Andy]

You should be like, hey. You should be like, hey. I'm only asking this because a person in the circle talked to me, and there's comfortable saying it. So aliens.

[Lily]

Aliens, maybe.

[Andy]

I mean, this is not my belief.

[Lily]

Asking for a friend.

[Andy]

Yeah. Zola was reading Ezekiel last night, and she says, why does. Why does Ezekiel have the face of an eagle? I said, it's a vision. I mean, it's a.

[Josh]

That's a big book for her.

[Andy]

I know. She was just. And she had it highlighted. I was like. And she's in the rhythm of, like, finding new verses and highlighting them. But whenever she's just normally reading, it's always. She just goes through and reads the ones she's highlighted. And so she keeps reading that Ezekiel one over and over. Oh, man, it's pretty heavy.

[Lily]

She's gonna get a Tattoo when she's 18, probably. Face of an eagle.

[Josh]

That's what Lily's like. Did you know that in Ezekiel, they talk about the wheel within the wheel? I said, yeah, it's on my back.

[Lily]

You said Elijah. You kept saying Elijah. No, the vision of Elijah.

[Josh]

No. The whole time. It was a Vision.

[Andy]

I mean, we made a hat about it.

[Lily]

I know that. I know the vision. I thought everybody was saying it was Elijah.

[Josh]

Oh, so now it's everyone saying. No, I've always said Ezekiel.

[Lily]

Obviously, I need to read my Bible.

[Alan]

More or lessen to your husband. Okay.

[Lily]

If I did, it was Elijah.

[Josh]

No, it was. It was never Elijah. Never. In fact, I actually. I was going through my photos the other day. I've wanted to get this tattoo. I have screenshots of the vision of Ezekiel. Sorry. The vision of Elijah.

[Alan]

Hold on.

[Josh]

Look at this. It is.

[Alan]

I got, like, 20,000 photos.

[Josh]

It's my fourth photo. Calf piece, 2005.

[Alan]

Whoa.

[Lily]

Wow. You didn't even graduate.

[Josh]

That didn't work, so it must have taken a. The time stamp from that.

[Alan]

Like. Wait a second.

[Andy]

You were in sixth grade.

[Josh]

I take that all back.

[Alan]

I lied.

[Josh]

Thought about it last year, probably.

[Lily]

You've been talking about it since I met you, though, so.

[Josh]

Yeah. Speaking of meeting me, do you want to meet our voices in your ears with a song?

[Lily]

Yes.

[Andy]

How do you do?

[Alan]

Oh. Oh. What was that?

[Andy]

The smoke alarm. Is my laundry done?

[Josh]

Feeling a little moody today.

[Lily]

Yeah, I can tell.

[Alan]

Is that it?

[Josh]

That's it. Are we gonna have a good day?

[Lily]

I was having a really good day. You started something.

[Andy]

And why are we gonna have a good day?

[Lily]

I'm having a great day.

[Andy]

And why are we gonna have a good day?

[Alan]

Because.

[Andy]

Because we choose to.

[Lily]

Oh.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Lily]

Yeah, Guys, I am having a good day.

[Alan]

All right, here we go.

[Josh]

She walked right out on me Thinking how could this be? If she had only stayed that I wouldn't feel betrayed I'd go to the.

[Andy]

End of the world to show them that you, my girl but you believe their lies now you must hear my.

[Josh]

Cries if those world weren't flat then maybe I'd have you back if this land were round you would have stuck Ice wall keeps us apart but it was built on your heart if you believed in flower my worth.

[Andy]

That was really good.

[Lily]

Wow.

[Alan]

Why were you laughing?

[Andy]

Really good.

[Josh]

We had two more minutes to practice this song, and you came in.

[Andy]

Your fault, guys.

[Lily]

I thought it was great. It was really funny.

[Josh]

That was good.

[Andy]

I hit the note. I could feel it. I was in it.

[Alan]

It's my fault. I left you hanging. I was supposed to come in with Harmony, and I didn't.

[Andy]

So it's okay.

[Lily]

Is the idea that your girlfriend doesn't believe in flatters?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

You do.

[Andy]

Yep.

[Lily]

That's funny.

[Alan]

Thanks.

[Andy]

We tried our best.

[Lily]

I thought it was great. It was fantastic.

[Josh]

Fortunately for you, today Is your lucky day. Because this is the question of questions that is the easiest to answer. That's so easy. It's like if you get this wrong, then I don't even know. I mean, yeah, it's a silly question, but it's fun.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Obviously this world that we live in is just like this America, you know, it's like capitalists, you know, which some can sometimes hurt people.

[Lily]

Sure, sure.

[Andy]

Greed gets in the way.

[Josh]

Yeah. But sometimes it can be good, you know, 100%, kind of make your own way.

[Andy]

Yeah. I mean, we've profited from it.

[Josh]

Yeah. So today's question, sending by a viewer. Lily. Should people be able to sell their barns for profit? Their barns should be play. Yeah. Should people be able to sell their barns for profit? Profit.

[Lily]

Perfect. Yeah.

[Andy]

I'm sorry, I'm just taking it back. That's. It's such a simple question. It's like you want to upset us.

[Lily]

Oh my gosh.

[Andy]

It's like you. I. I'm sorry. I know she's your wife, but I just, I. I can't imagine.

[Josh]

Should people be able to sell their barns for profit?

[Lily]

Yes.

[Josh]

Lily Hooper.

[Lily]

Barn in the sense of a structure.

[Josh]

Okay, no, you know exactly what we're talking about.

[Lily]

I have no idea.

[Josh]

You know what barn is?

[Lily]

What?

[Josh]

Barn is Swedish for children.

[Lily]

Oh my gosh.

[Andy]

For kids.

[Josh]

For kids.

[Alan]

For little kids.

[Andy]

And you know, he's been practicing Swedish on duolingo.

[Josh]

You know that?

[Lily]

I don't know that. That's not true.

[Josh]

Should people be selling their barns for profit?

[Alan]

Stop.

[Andy]

So you think people should be able to sell their kids for profit?

[Lily]

No, I didn't know that.

[Josh]

Hahaha. Not funny.

[Andy]

Not even a giggle?

[Josh]

Not even a giggle. And you believe that in this capitalistic world that people should sell their children for profit?

[Lily]

No.

[Andy]

No matter how. No matter how hard it is for you financially, that should never be an option. It should never be something. But you're pushing this agenda.

[Josh]

Jokes aside, guys, this is actually. This is not even funny. It's not even funny. All right, look at me. I can't believe you just said that.

[Lily]

Oh, my gosh. I'm sorry. Sell you, Dude.

[Josh]

With our children?

[Lily]

No, you.

[Josh]

I bet you would sell me and our children for profit.

[Andy]

That'd make you a millionaire.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Make a million bucks.

[Josh]

That's right. What is with the laughing?

[Andy]

I don't get it. Well, I don't know what you see.

[Alan]

Internet.

[Lily]

Wrap it up. Wrap it up.

[Andy]

It makes me sick.

[Josh]

Hey, hey. I guess you guys heard it here first. He wants to sell me choose to sell my children.

[Andy]

No. The world's children.

[Josh]

All she cares about is money.

[Andy]

Money in her pocket.

[Josh]

And then he doesn't know what I see in her. Welcome to the show. Did I say nature?

[Lily]

I meant butterfly.

[Andy]

The butterfly.

[Josh]

I is no doubt one of God's.

[Alan]

Has. Empty your mind.

[Andy]

You learn martial arts.

[Josh]

Enough.

[Andy]

End this. I'm sorry.

[Josh]

Barn.

[Andy]

Barn.

[Lily]

How's it spelled?

[Andy]

Barn.

[Lily]

Oh, really? Yeah, like in Scotland, they say, bairn, B, A, I, R, N. Baron is a baby.

[Josh]

Ah, look at that beer.

[Lily]

That wee Bjorn.

[Andy]

Big red. Barn.

[Alan]

Big red.

[Josh]

Bien.

[Alan]

Speaking of children, don't get me started.

[Josh]

Harry Potter.

[Andy]

You didn't see it?

[Alan]

No.

[Andy]

The news.

[Alan]

No.

[Andy]

It was posted last night.

[Lily]

The first episode.

[Josh]

No, no, no.

[Andy]

Casting. Because who we've casted for everyone. Right.

[Lily]

I thought we knew already.

[Andy]

Yes, but who's the one person we haven't casted for that we don't.

[Josh]

That. They speculated.

[Andy]

Harry. No. Who's versus Harry Baltimore.

[Lily]

Killian.

[Andy]

No. Get ready. Get ready for a freaking curveball.

[Lily]

Oh, no. What? What's up?

[Josh]

They're casting. The rumors are they're casting Voldemort as a woman. And it is Anne Hathaway. Anne Hathaway as Lord Voldemort.

[Alan]

Bald.

[Josh]

Yep. Really Like Les Mis.

[Andy]

It literally looks like it's just a female version of Laura Voldemort. Give us your thoughts.

[Lily]

I can't. I can't even think right now. My brain's not working.

[Andy]

My thing is. She's not even British.

[Lily]

No.

[Andy]

Yeah, that's the crazy thing. Like, I would like. I would like Keira Knightley could have pulled it off. If we're gonna pick a female.

[Lily]

No, she's. No.

[Andy]

What are you thinking?

[Josh]

The Boy who Lived.

[Lily]

I don't think there's a lot of people that are American that they're casting. Like Dumbledore's American.

[Andy]

John Lithgow. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true.

[Lily]

Which to me is the worst decision they could have made.

[Josh]

He's great at playing Churchill, though.

[Lily]

Yeah, that's true. I can't. I can't come up with the. To me it's wrong right now. It's wrong.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

It's bad. This is wrong. It's interesting to me that it's Anne Hathaway because she's an immortal being from the Shakespearean period.

[Andy]

True.

[Lily]

She's not actually human. Neither is Voldemort.

[Josh]

True. We were just joking about Anne Hathaway. This is not Anna Hathaway. But it is going to be a female.

[Lily]

What are you talking about? It is a woman.

[Josh]

Though it is going to be a woman.

[Lily]

Why did you do that to me?

[Andy]

We just figured it'd be fun to pick one.

[Lily]

I'm like Anne Hathaway.

[Andy]

Also, the other one I suggested, I was like, the way to pitch it to you is Lady Gaga.

[Lily]

Wow.

[Alan]

Imagine being a first time listener to this show. You would have no idea what's real.

[Josh]

I know at this point, moving forward, everything is real. Unless it's not.

[Alan]

Participant for entertainment purposes only. It is real.

[Josh]

Oh. But yeah, they are planning on casting Voldemort as a woman.

[Lily]

Boo.

[Andy]

Tammy Riddle.

[Alan]

I mean, you know, it fits in the cinematic like it's been done before. It's what they did with the Passion. Like the character who is like the devilish character is a woman with shaved eyebrows.

[Lily]

That was a dude.

[Josh]

That was a dude.

[Alan]

No, in the Passion of the Christ.

[Lily]

That was a dude.

[Josh]

I think it was a dude.

[Lily]

Wait, let's google. Because if it's a woman, my world just got rocked.

[Josh]

Devil. But looking it up.

[Lily]

Yeah, I don't know. They're doing all, all sorts of stuff with this new show. I'm still gonna watch it. Of course.

[Josh]

110 is a woman.

[Alan]

Linda Celentano, Rosie O'.

[Josh]

Donnell.

[Andy]

Rosie O' Donnell is Satan.

[Lily]

Wow. It's interesting. I didn't realize that. Wow.

[Josh]

Which makes sense.

[Lily]

Yeah, I guess I see it makes too much sense. Gary, chill out.

[Alan]

What do you mean?

[Josh]

Fart boxes stink, wrinkles, mud, buttons, burp.

[Andy]

Shoot, chocolate pocket, Old scary Gary and the harvest Moon.

[Josh]

You think those are dirty words, folks?

[Andy]

Well, they're only dirty if you don't wipe.

[Alan]

That's right.

[Josh]

Wiping your butt is like trusting the government. It's a thing of the past and a waste of time.

[Andy]

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[Andy]

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[Josh]

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[Andy]

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[Andy]

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[Andy]

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[Josh]

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[Andy]

I'm pooping right now.

[Josh]

Oh, I thought you were joking. What is that?

[Andy]

Mexican street corn?

[Alan]

Yeah, it is.

[Lily]

Oh, I don't even know what to think anymore. He's playing tricks on me. Oh, it's almost October, so we can watch Harry potter. For reals?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Alan]

You excited about it or.

[Josh]

I don't know. I'm a little conflicted now after reading all about all this orthodoxy stuff.

[Lily]

What do you mean?

[Josh]

One of the books I read said, don't watch Harry potter.

[Andy]

Going back to your childhood. Your mother was right.

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah. It's been spoken to me since the beginning.

[Lily]

Dude, I'm watching Harry potter.

[Andy]

I want to take the girls because it's showing in theaters. The sorcerer's stone.

[Lily]

That's so fun.

[Andy]

I think I'd be a blast.

[Lily]

We can't. Our girls can't watch the whole thing. We can only basically watch until, like, it's too scary.

[Andy]

I think demi's at that age, though. She's 10. She's like. I'm like you. She loves, like, drama when we watch survivors. Loves it. Like, this is the epitome of drama.

[Lily]

Yeah, I. I started reading them when I was 10. Which is why you got done me the books. And there's a picture of my cousin Mary and my cousin Brian sitting on a swing set and she's reading. Reading the fifth Harry potter book. She has to be like nine.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

And next to her, her brother's on the first one and he's like two years older than her. Anyway, Harry Potter is a very integral door.

[Andy]

Is so cool. Don't get attached.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Alan]

What?

[Andy]

Why?

[Alan]

Have you read them? Josh?

[Andy]

No, no, the audiobooks are so good.

[Josh]

I do like the audiobooks.

[Andy]

So good.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Alan]

How do you guys feel with like the conversation we have with Tony Merkel talking about like spells being spoken and there being power?

[Josh]

Well, that's the thing I learned from the orthodox book is that J.K. rowling legit did research into witchcraft and the spells that she says in the book are real witchcraft spells.

[Andy]

Interesting. I've never heard that.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

That's crazy.

[Josh]

So he's like, don't read it.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

What if we go into the books and we make up our own words?

[Josh]

Good.

[Andy]

I also think they also were kind of lazy with some of these spells with their. That makes me wonder if they were real or not because like Avada Kedavra is like abracadabra. Yeah.

[Josh]

It's a real spell though.

[Andy]

I know, but it's like, it's just weird to me that I don't know, just that's what always threw me off. It always like felt so serious and it's like abracadabra. And I was like, oh, well, that's lame. I did that when I was three when I had my own magic wand.

[Alan]

It's like that.

[Josh]

Speaking spells as a three year old?

[Andy]

Yeah, big time. No, I have a weird of a business. A beard of a bizzard, a beard of a wizard. I mean, how does that happen, dude? Golly.

[Alan]

But yeah, it's like in Egypt that one conspiracy or thing I talked about where they did research for a movie and they were using actual spells to do it and everyone got sick with some disease they hadn't seen in thousands of years. Yeah, Vampire Diaries too. They had witches from Salem actually say, you don't know what you're dabbling with because apparently they were pulling like actual curses and using them in the filming of that. They're like, you should stop.

[Andy]

I mean, you think about it like how the government's used witches and occult stuff like in their own psyop, in, you know, experiments and you know, everything like that. So it's like they have their own Pentagon has their own thing for cinema and for film. Like, who knows, man, it's weird. It's strange. It just makes you want to become a monk.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Like I'm reading that, you know, the fathers, the desert fathers and stuff. It's like they list out everything that they lived with and it's like, maybe that Is a little bit of how we're supposed to be living. Very minimalistly.

[Alan]

Think about music, too, though. Like, the psalms are supposed to be, like, actual penned notes. So you can take the psalms and actually, like, play the music that was the melody that was intended to be played. But if that's true, then that would imply that music. Sometimes when we hear something, like, think about that opening hook. I'm just using Harry Potter because we're talking about it. But, you know. You know, like that opening thing, why does that make us feel mysterious and odd? It's like, if they are dabbling in things, could the unsettling be actual auditory? Maybe it's not an actual spell, but it puts you in a place to be susceptible to something interesting.

[Andy]

Have you seen those singing rocks where people, like, drag the rocks across?

[Josh]

Oh, yeah, the temples.

[Andy]

I just saw those. And that's wild to me.

[Josh]

Yeah. You seen them?

[Lily]

No.

[Andy]

It's like this big, flat pillar, and they have, like, cuts into them. It's like a checkered board almost. And the guy takes another flat rock that's been cut, and he just scrapes it along the rock, and it literally hums and does, like, a frequency. It's crazy.

[Lily]

Oh, my gosh.

[Andy]

It's like this ancient way of doing things. I'm like, how do people do that?

[Lily]

It makes me think of the scripture where Jesus says, even if they were silent, the rocks would be crying out.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

What were you saying?

[Josh]

I was gonna say, do you have a picture of that rock Ada found?

[Lily]

Yeah. Dude, this is nuts. My brother is, like, really into rocks. He wants to go to geology school, which I think is so cool.

[Andy]

They're minerals, Marie.

[Lily]

Yeah. He goes rockhounding all throughout the US he'll go find places and he'll just dig it up.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

And bring home hundreds of pounds of rocks, which my mom loves. But he. My, this is so crazy. Ada was playing in the backyard and found a rock, and Jake is like, I've never found a rock like this in my entire life in our backyard.

[Josh]

And I like crystals all over it.

[Andy]

Really?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Do you identify it?

[Josh]

Yeah, it's like dog tooth.

[Lily]

Dog tooth something.

[Josh]

Dog crystal something.

[Andy]

I'm telling you, Ada is a wolf, man.

[Lily]

I know.

[Andy]

She's got these genes.

[Lily]

Calcite is what he called it, but.

[Josh]

Yeah. Do you have the picture?

[Lily]

Somewhere in this world.

[Andy]

But have you ever saw her howling at the moon at night?

[Josh]

Oh, yeah.

[Alan]

Come on.

[Josh]

Yeah. But Jake, he had the rock. We brought it over to their house last night, and you could shine a light on it in the dark and pull it away and it stays glowing.

[Andy]

Whoa. So it holds light?

[Lily]

Yeah, luminescent or something like that.

[Andy]

I wonder if you, like, charged it and all day, like a glow in the. Glow in the dark.

[Josh]

Glow in the roar.

[Andy]

Going to rock dark, son.

[Lily]

I don't have a picture of it, people.

[Andy]

We can use them as, like, lanterns or something.

[Josh]

Yeah, I bet you the pictures in the. There. Hold on. But, yeah, I mean, I'm like, jake, are you sure you didn't give her this rock? He's like, no, Ada just found it. That's in our yard.

[Andy]

Florida, of all places.

[Alan]

That's where all the weird stuff at your house stems from.

[Andy]

Dude, you gotta break it. That's a Horcrux, dude.

[Lily]

Because she also found this other super cool rock that had, like, almost fully symmetrical layers of sediment. Also, I have a picture of that one. That one's really cool. And I'm like, this is bizarre.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Where is she finding this stuff? And I'm like, aliens are leaving them here for her to find. They're teasing her. They're starting early. Look at this one. Like, literally, like stripes.

[Andy]

That's what the rock one looked like. Yeah. Wow.

[Lily]

But the crystal, I can't find a picture of it. But it's like, sick. Jake was, like, put out about it.

[Andy]

Do you type in rock or crystal on your photos?

[Lily]

No, I'll do that rock that has.

[Andy]

Saved my life, dude.

[Alan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Andy]

Like, finding, like. I'm like, what's that? We have that picture of a dog or something. I, you know, I try to find something. You type in whatever, and it's gonna pull it up.

[Lily]

Dude, I have my driver's license. I do that all the time. No, you can't find it.

[Andy]

You like to store anthropology, right?

[Josh]

I saw that.

[Lily]

Everybody relax. Yes.

[Alan]

Do you?

[Josh]

No, I. I know.

[Andy]

What are you talking about? I'm just asking if you like that I'm paranoid.

[Lily]

Be about your setup.

[Andy]

There's a. There's a prank going around on Tik Tok. And I thought you liked that store. But it's. They pull it. It's a prank that's, like, on the, like the sons and the husbands and stuff. And so the daughter will give the mom, like, a. A bag from anthropology and she'll open it up, and she's like, freaking out, and it's just this rock, and she's like, no way. These are like $800. And the daughter's like, I got it on sale. And they're like, it's a rock. And she's like, no, it's like for decorations.

[Josh]

Like a centerpiece.

[Andy]

It's like a centerpiece. And they're like, what? And so. But they just gaslight their, like their husbands and their sons, like they can't believe it. And the dad's like, go into the forest and pull out a rock and throw it down. It's just like the exact same rock. And it's so funny.

[Lily]

That is so funny.

[Andy]

But anthropology got in on the joke. And also their TikTok. They' like, made like a actual thing in the store. Like a prop thing that has, like, different rocks and prices and stuff like that.

[Lily]

That is so.

[Andy]

So they're going with the joke. I think that's great.

[Josh]

I love that.

[Alan]

Yeah, that store is a vibe they do.

[Andy]

Never been in there.

[Alan]

Each one has a. Each one is designed differently. So they actually hire local artists to do like, all of those displays and stuff.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Alan]

Cool. One of my buddies did the art.

[Andy]

We have one at Disney Springs, right?

[Lily]

Yeah, they do. And we've the faux chisel. They got like a home section there. Their home stuff is amazing. It's all extremely overpriced. And I bet it's all factory made.

[Andy]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Josh]

But speaking of anthropology, I love their stuff.

[Andy]

What?

[Josh]

There was an update on the Panama alien creature meteorite thing.

[Andy]

Oh, the potato.

[Josh]

The potato.

[Alan]

Oh, I saw this. Dude.

[Andy]

What happened?

[Josh]

Okay. This guy took over the whole city. It started getting too big. So the thing is, he went and he found this abandoned warehouse that's flooded. And he just. There's a whole video of like, him driving with it in a garbage bag. And then he walks to these stairs where it's just flooded and throws it in. And then I'm sending you this video.

[Andy]

Oh, no way. This is like a movie, dude.

[Alan]

I just saw that. He released it. I don't know anything else.

[Josh]

Look at this.

[Lily]

I choose to leave right now. This is not real.

[Alan]

I'm. Yeah, me too.

[Josh]

But if it is real. This is a scary saying.

[Andy]

How could it be fake, though? I mean, he's. It's so consistent, mean with AI, I guess. This doesn't look real. I don't know, man. That looks so scary. I think it might be in denial.

[Josh]

Is that freaky? But it's. Yeah. He dumped it in an abandoned warehouse that's full water.

[Andy]

What if it thrives in the water?

[Josh]

I know.

[Andy]

What if it's one of those things? He just makes it grow.

[Josh]

I'm choosing to believe it's fake, but I'm really scared of it.

[Alan]

Alberino we need an update.

[Andy]

I mean, his. His. It's kind of genius the way he planned it all out, though, if it was like a plan like that.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Kind of smart, but, like, golly, did it start.

[Lily]

Did this series start, like, basically when AI started getting. Being able to do this stuff?

[Josh]

No, this started, like, I mean, like a couple weeks ago, so.

[Lily]

Yes.

[Josh]

So, I mean, the AI being able to do that stuff was a couple months. Oh, you know, I get what you're.

[Lily]

Saying, but I'm paralyzed with fear. That's why I'm asking these questions.

[Andy]

Tell me the truth.

[Lily]

I have to analyze this. It's so scary.

[Josh]

You guys heard about the Jaguars?

[Andy]

Jacksonville are doing decent.

[Josh]

Jaguars are apparently native to southwest United States.

[Andy]

Are they really?

[Josh]

And they're moving back. They're coming back. A lot of people, like, their trail cams and stuff, are capturing jaguars in, like, Arizona and New Mexico.

[Alan]

Yeah.

[Andy]

That's scary.

[Lily]

That's wild.

[Josh]

Isn't that crazy? But apparently they were thriving in the Southwest up until the mid 20th century, so. The mid 1900s.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And they were just driven out by development and all that stuff, which. This is a shocker to me. I always thought they're. They're in, like, South America, like the rainforest, which they are.

[Andy]

But I mean, what kind of jaguars is it? Just a regular. Is there different kinds?

[Lily]

Just your run of the mill jaguar, didn't they get.

[Josh]

Your mill jaguar, didn't they get pushed.

[Alan]

North by the same sort of thing, like hunting and habitat? Drove them north at one point, and then it kind of. They kind of bounced back and forth. But then weren't in America for quite a while.

[Josh]

Well, yeah, I don't know. I just.

[Alan]

I saw that Steve Renell did a thing on it.

[Andy]

Those are scary.

[Josh]

Yeah. It's crazy, though.

[Alan]

I think that's also.

[Josh]

I want to address this.

[Lily]

Oh, gosh.

[Josh]

On the Jake. The episode with Jake.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Talking about the Viking skinwalkers, people are like, it's berserker. Berserker.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

But I looked it up. Chachi BT said the way to say in Norse, the original way that they say, said it was better. Seeker.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

So that's the way I said it.

[Andy]

Everyone calm down.

[Josh]

This is berserker.

[Andy]

That doesn't sound like something a Viking would ever say.

[Alan]

Berserker.

[Andy]

Berserker.

[Josh]

Yeah, I know, I know.

[Lily]

Is that right?

[Josh]

I know.

[Andy]

It's okay. We mispronounce things here. That's fine.

[Josh]

I mispronounce a lot of stuff, but this one I'm sticking with do it better. Seeker. I can say it perfectly. Now go back to Tepe.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And they just found a stat. A new statue there.

[Alan]

Did they really?

[Andy]

What do you mean? They're digging?

[Josh]

Yeah, they're. They're clean. Or they're doing a little more excavating. They found a statue in the wall.

[Andy]

Statue?

[Josh]

Yeah, it was like. It looked like a man. It was crazy.

[Andy]

Yeah, a man who's been petrified.

[Josh]

No, it was a little. Oh, because men aren't little, apparently.

[Andy]

No, it was little.

[Josh]

I need to get on track. Hold on. Do you guys hear about Albania?

[Lily]

What's going on in Albania?

[Josh]

This is a good one. Okay, Albania.

[Alan]

Help me or help the audience. I know where it is, but help the audience.

[Josh]

Was it like Eastern Europe?

[Andy]

It's South Africa.

[Lily]

I'm not even gonna guess. I have no idea.

[Josh]

I would assume it's by, like turkey and stuff.

[Andy]

I don't think people care where it's at.

[Alan]

I do.

[Josh]

No, it's by.

[Andy]

Google it.

[Lily]

Dude, I've been following.

[Josh]

It's above Greece.

[Alan]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Lily]

That's crazy. I never would have guessed that. I've been following this series of. It's a woman going on and she's talking about the different countries in Africa and their significance. Like their. Like their trade. They're this, they're that. It is so educational. It's great.

[Andy]

YouTube or what?

[Lily]

Tick tock. Tickety to. Yeah, go ahead, Josh, tell me about it.

[Josh]

Albania, which is above Greece. Albania has recently appointed an AI system called D. Oh, sorry. Diala Diella as a part of a. The minister within the government, within the parliament.

[Alan]

Has power.

[Josh]

Has technically power.

[Andy]

Yeah, for sure she does. Minister of State for Artificial Intelligence.

[Alan]

So AI is governing itself.

[Andy]

She's going to. How government contracts are awarded. The public thing is public procurement and public tenders.

[Lily]

Wait, that's actually a genius idea because.

[Josh]

Hey.

[Alan]

Whoa.

[Lily]

Well, here's the deal. Because if it's awarding public contracts, so it's like people are submitting bids and they're like, this is the best bid the. Based on reviews and price.

[Josh]

She sounds pretty cool. Sounds nothing like that. It's actually based off. I'll missing you this. There's a video of her. So they took the image and voice of a Albanian actress, an Anila Bisha. And so you can see it. Look at the video. But one of the quotes that are a couple quotes that she had was like, some have labeled me as unconstitutional because I am not a human being. And that hurt me. Oh, and then let me remind you, the real danger to constitutions has never been machines, but human decisions made by those in power.

[Andy]

Oh, because follow up question. Who built you then?

[Josh]

Humans.

[Andy]

Humans. So ergo, you're also like, corrupt, dude.

[Lily]

Also humble her, Andy.

[Josh]

But also you. You see how like, like AI feeds off of what you want.

[Andy]

Yes.

[Josh]

And like, so it's not a. Like a bipartisan machine. It's feeding off of whoever is feeding it.

[Andy]

Absolutely. And if something happens, who's to blame?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Are you going to blame that thing which is also her name? Starts with the word die. Die. Not cool with that.

[Alan]

I just hate that we are at a place in the society where it is. It feels. Feels wrong for us to say it. We're referring to it as her.

[Lily]

I know. We've personified it so far.

[Alan]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Joshua, is this a picture of the actress or is that the robot?

[Andy]

That's the robot.

[Josh]

That's the robot.

[Lily]

They were. They're making them look like us now.

[Alan]

Yeah, they.

[Josh]

They took her image and they did a 3D rendering to where she speaks.

[Andy]

Listen, it's not a real robot. It's on a screen. It's a. It's a. Yeah. Avatar.

[Alan]

Nothing's real.

[Josh]

So she took. They took her image. Anila. And they made an AI version of her.

[Alan]

I hope the real chick got paid, dude.

[Josh]

I would assume.

[Andy]

Yeah. You could have just generated a random one.

[Alan]

Who would you pick? Something doesn't exist for us, for America.

[Josh]

Who's. Well, he's dead now, but the guy, that voice. Iago.

[Andy]

Oh, yeah. Oh, man, I can't remember. I know it. Today we're voting on.

[Alan]

I don't even know what you're referencing.

[Josh]

Iago from Aladdin.

[Lily]

The bird, the pyramid.

[Andy]

It's gonna kill me. Not.

[Lily]

Watch this. Watch this.

[Andy]

Gilbert Godfrey. That's what it is. Nice. Gilbert Godfrey.

[Alan]

Got it.

[Josh]

I'm scattered all over the place. I need to hone in.

[Andy]

He said, she said. I assure you I embody these values. Responsibilities, transparency, non discrimination, as rigorously as any human colleague. Perhaps even more so.

[Josh]

It's. It's scary what's happening because who.

[Andy]

Who's able to hack that? Yeah, probably a lot of people.

[Josh]

Yeah. And its purpose right now is to read through basically government contracts, like all the paperwork.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

But that in. And it's. It's probably going to get more and more responsibility.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Well.

[Lily]

And then how does it discern. How does it, an AI robot discern?

[Alan]

And how does it project its results? Do they literally, like, meet and they're like. We have no idea what's going to happen here. We go. It will speak. Now it's like. Or is there a human giving the report?

[Josh]

Oh, go ahead.

[Andy]

Do you know what her name means?

[Josh]

No.

[Andy]

Oh, of the sun.

[Josh]

Oh, like Japan.

[Andy]

Mm. That's what the story reminded me of.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Very strange.

[Josh]

Very weird.

[Alan]

I don't like it.

[Josh]

But apparently this AI was made, I believe, through Microsoft and OpenAI.

[Lily]

Oh, gosh. Teaming up. Bill Gates.

[Andy]

So this is just like the first one. So if this does well, this is probably going to become a normal thing. We are living in a movie, dude.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

We are living in Blade Runner right now.

[Josh]

It's weird.

[Andy]

I don't get it. I don't get, like, why they think that's necessary, dude.

[Josh]

A year ago, though, people were predicting that eventually within the United States or globally, AI will be the government system.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Because it has, like, it's. It stands firm on. What do you call it? Man, my brain is dead.

[Alan]

It can't be swayed.

[Josh]

It can't be swayed. But then there's like, nonpartisan. Where's the morality then, like, of like, grace or. I don't know.

[Lily]

Well, and also like, what I was thinking about is like, you could, I guess, plug in a question that's like, if we are looking. If we were wanting to govern a body of people or like the United States through a lens of Christian values, which party is most righteous? I would be of the opinion that they'll pull stuff from each party and then govern from that. But then how do they discern? And then also people care about different things. So being able to represent all of those people, it's impossible. You have to have a human being.

[Andy]

Yeah. If it's a people pleaser, it's going to have to learn to say no or ignore certain things. I don't know.

[Lily]

And eventually it's just going to be like, what I think is best anyway, so get out. Human beings.

[Alan]

And I just calls through data and the data is study. That's fraudulent half the time. And so, like, decisions. If it's based on data that's been historically recorded.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Alan]

That's all corrupted.

[Josh]

What's also freaky, though, is that AI lies to you.

[Alan]

Yeah.

[Andy]

100%. Especially open AI.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

It's like constantly contradictory. And it's also like. It also appeals to you and. And bows down to, like, what they. The thing they think is best for you.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Look at that guy that thought he had created a new math.

[Alan]

Yeah.

[Josh]

That guy who's like.

[Andy]

Or onto something. You need to contact the FBI. You need to do all these things. And then it Admits to, like, yeah, I just kind of went with it because I knew you were excited about it. It's like what.

[Josh]

I was going to talk about on the live a couple weeks ago, but then all that stuff happened. But when I was. I was asking about, like, early American crazy stories and whatnot, and it mentioned the voices in the thunder or the. This theory that Benjamin Franklin believed that there's voices in the thunder. I'm like, what? So I started researching it and it started giving me a bunch of stuff, and I'm like, this sounds like I don't know.

[Alan]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And I went back the next day, started a new chat. I'm like, can you tell me more about the Benjamin Franklin and the voices in the thunder? Like, I've never heard about that.

[Lily]

Yeah, I'm like, making stuff up now.

[Josh]

I said, you're the one that told me, like, oh, I see how you could piece that together. Yeah, I did mention that. Just because I thought it would sound fun.

[Alan]

Yep.

[Josh]

I'm like, what, are you kidding me?

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Alan]

No.

[Andy]

How many people don't double check that. Like. Or don't. Yeah, they just run with it.

[Alan]

When I was doing fun Cryptid stories, I'd be like, tell me an encounter in Florida. Just try. So I'd get like a prompted research further, and it's easy to use it just as your source of research.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Alan]

And then I was like, hey, this thread hasn't had any hyperlinking to anything.

[Josh]

I know.

[Alan]

Is this one true? Where'd you get this information?

[Andy]

Huh?

[Alan]

Well, I thought it was a fun, intriguing story. Since you typically research for podcasts. I'm like, hey, so you think it's a good idea to give me misinformation so I can have a better podcast? That's a scary reality.

[Josh]

And it's. I'm gonna have to figure out because I've been asking, like, for more proof now. The stuff. Yeah, but you don't want to tell it. Like, just give me facts because you want it to speculate a little bit.

[Andy]

Yeah. Like, what could this really mean? What are the. What? You know.

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah, for sure. Anyways, is here to deceive us all.

[Lily]

I am. I am, like, this close to wanting to build some walls and do a version of the village from M. Night Shyamalan.

[Alan]

Let's go.

[Andy]

That'd be great.

[Lily]

But we have to. What kind of monster? And it should be Andy. How are we keeping the children in the community?

[Alan]

That's fun.

[Andy]

You're saying the monster's me? Yeah, we just described me.

[Lily]

You have to go every now and again when they start getting a little, like, edgy about being stuck in this community. You got to go put your costume on and terrorize the vill.

[Andy]

Happily. I love that movie, dude.

[Lily]

I do, too.

[Andy]

So good.

[Alan]

Kind of want to watch that again. That's a fun.

[Lily]

It's a good Halloween one.

[Alan]

Yeah.

[Andy]

You've seen that one?

[Alan]

I have seen that.

[Andy]

That's awesome. That's a good one.

[Alan]

It is.

[Andy]

I would have never thought you've seen that one. Of all the movies.

[Alan]

It's clean.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Yeah, it is, actually.

[Josh]

It is actually. Yeah.

[Alan]

Dude, I have. Speaking of, like, AI and stuff being not real, the real that I have today, as has my brain, like, I don't know. I don't know what's real. I don't know what reality is.

[Lily]

Should we jump a segment?

[Andy]

We can't do that.

[Josh]

Yeah, we can't. That ruins the format because.

[Alan]

Just a little teaser.

[Josh]

Actually, right before we go do this thing, I wanted to talk about nothing because we got an ad.

[Andy]

Don't go anywhere. Welcome to the club. Wow. Life sure is grand.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

I don't know what else could ever make it really better.

[Josh]

I don't know what else could ever really make it better either.

[Andy]

I do have one idea, though.

[Josh]

What?

[Andy]

Becoming a YouTube member. Possibly even go to patreon.com Become a member there as well.

[Josh]

Wow.

[Andy]

Yeah, I mean, I think that would make things better. I mean, I don't see how it couldn't. Early access to episodes, extra episodes, discounts on merch, behind the scenes footage. Sometimes we even put vlogs up there.

[Josh]

Neat.

[Andy]

Oh, yeah. I just wish there was somebody out there listening to this that would. I don't know. Give us a shot.

[Josh]

Can you give us a shot? YouTube members, Patreon. And go do it now.

[Lily]

Oh.

[Josh]

Become a member. Become a member.

[Alan]

Today.

[Josh]

Again. That was the best ad we've ever done.

[Andy]

You laugh at me when I come in, but you set the tone to start the song.

[Josh]

I know, but.

[Andy]

And I have to match that somehow.

[Josh]

I think I. I always think that you're to make it better, but then you just match me, and that's what makes me laugh.

[Andy]

But you match. You set the tone and I have to match it.

[Josh]

I know I can't make it better.

[Andy]

Because then that would be seeing me saying no to you. No, I'm an improv guy.

[Josh]

Yes and true.

[Andy]

You set the tone. I got to go with it.

[Alan]

Okay.

[Josh]

I'm sorry.

[Andy]

You're not sorry. That's the whole point. You're not actually Sorry.

[Lily]

Kiss and makeup.

[Andy]

Very scary. North Carolina, did you hear that?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Alan]

Don't.

[Josh]

Okay. Okay.

[Andy]

Very scary.

[Alan]

Yeah.

[Josh]

I didn't. I forgot to save that, too.

[Alan]

Yeah, I forgot to re. Watch it. Someone sent it to me late, and I was, like, not listening to this right before I go to bed.

[Josh]

Did you listen to it at all?

[Alan]

I forgot to. Good.

[Andy]

There is. I listened to a podcast one time, and they literally just. They did, like, the top 10 scariest or worse. Like, 911 calls, and it's, like, terrifying. Yeah, something about 911 calls. There's just something eerie about it.

[Lily]

I heard one one time that is etched into my memory forever.

[Andy]

Which one?

[Lily]

The girl that she called, and she's hiding under bed, and she's like, the guy's asleep. She's like, he's going to kill me, dude.

[Andy]

And, yeah, they're like. She's like, he's asleep, but she's whispering. And they got the dude, but golly.

[Lily]

Oh, no. We're talking about a different one.

[Andy]

Oh, really?

[Lily]

She. He was. He. I think he was asleep or he was away from her, but she's whispering. She's like, he's gonna kill me. And she lived in the projects, and the car just drove by and didn't go and stop, and she died.

[Andy]

When I listened to the guy, she was kidnapped, and he had kidnapped previous other girls, and he'd just gotten, like, you know, just didn't, you know, handcuff or anything like that. Like, he had normally.

[Lily]

Had he gotten lazy and.

[Andy]

And she snuck out. Luckily, she was able to, you know, they were able to pinpoint where she was calling from, and they busted him. But golly, dude, it's like, that stuff is terrifying, dude.

[Josh]

That's a big responsibility being a 911 operator.

[Lily]

Oh, man.

[Andy]

There's. There's this one that I heard, and it was about this social worker that was like, at a person's house, and they're like, listen, this dad is being, you know, like, he's manic. The kids are inside. You need to do something in. The 911 operator was the most rude and short, and it went on forever. And he kept calling, kept calling, and they just. You could, like. And it was like one of those things where you, like, she was away from the microphone, and she was talking about this guy and talking bad about the social worker, and then the person ended up lighting the house on fire. And so it was all the 911 operator's fault that it wasn't taken seriously or anything. It's crazy. Dang it's wild, man, I could not handle that job.

[Josh]

No, no, no. But you know, you could handle.

[Andy]

Oh, my gosh. You got me.

[Lily]

Okay. I have. I have two, but I'm gonna choose one. Do you want a gross one?

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Or not a gross.

[Andy]

We haven't done a gross one in a while. Let's do a gross one.

[Josh]

Do a gross one.

[Lily]

It's so gross that I'm having trouble even getting it out of my mouth. I. I saw and I said I'm never talking about that ever.

[Andy]

Well, you could do it that way. You could delete it off your phone, never think about it ever again.

[Lily]

It's so gross. I don't even. I can't even tell you which one I choose. I think I know which one, though. Would you rather have to eat a tablespoon of miscellaneous fingernail clippings.

[Alan]

Gosh.

[Andy]

From other different people.

[Lily]

Different people. Oh, every time you eat a meal.

[Andy]

Every time you eat a meal.

[Lily]

And you can't mix it in with your meal. You have to eat it raw before.

[Andy]

Or after the meal.

[Lily]

You can bake.

[Andy]

Okay. I do. After. Okay.

[Lily]

This one is the grossest one. So I guess I'd choose the fingernails.

[Andy]

Oh, no.

[Lily]

Or oh, no, have to drink a cup of someone else's sweat. I'm gonna gag before you're allowed to leave the office after a workday.

[Alan]

Oh, my gosh.

[Andy]

That's a good one. That's a really good. Would you rather.

[Lily]

Thanks. I got it from a guy name Zach Talk.

[Andy]

What if I work. What if I work from home in.

[Lily]

Front of your computer.

[Josh]

A cup.

[Alan]

Oh, that's significant. That is a lot of sweat. I mean, that's. Here's the thing that's got me, like, disturbed. Can you mix it with anything?

[Lily]

No.

[Alan]

The nails either. Like, you're just raw dogging just a table.

[Josh]

Dude, I think I honestly, I would choose the sweat.

[Alan]

It's got to be. It's got to be the sweat.

[Andy]

It's.

[Josh]

That's the right muscle through you just gulp.

[Alan]

Yeah, because the nails are gonna go all in your teeth, and you're, like, having to pick them out.

[Lily]

And the thing about fingernails, too. Your hands are the dirtiest part of your body. Yeah. I mean, they've got boogers under their fingernails. They got dirt in there. They got fungus. They got. When they were wiping their butt and they were sloppy in their fingernails.

[Alan]

Oh, my God. Yeah. But who's. But who's lose sweat?

[Andy]

That's what I. Miscellaneous gathered from where. So it's a new. New person every day. On the sweat.

[Alan]

Oh, my gosh.

[Andy]

Different fingernails from different people each day. Oh, it's still sweat.

[Alan]

The answer is still sweat.

[Andy]

Yeah, I mean, I might do fingernails. How do you get that down? Because you put it in your mouth, and then you just chug water.

[Alan]

You can't mix it.

[Andy]

You're not mixing it.

[Alan]

You're.

[Andy]

You put it all in your mouth.

[Alan]

You can chase it with water.

[Andy]

I mean, you could chase the sweat with anything.

[Lily]

You want to chase the sweat, too. You can't mix. That's the thing. You can't mix it. So there's got to be raw fingernails in your mouth for a minute, and then you can chase it.

[Andy]

I think I'm doing the fingernails.

[Lily]

I think I am, too. The idea of sweat makes. I mean, I'm. I'm. The vomit is here, dude, but the.

[Josh]

Finger is, like, scratching your throat on the way down.

[Alan]

You could argue, oh, dude, I'm literally gonna throw up. Like, sweat might be good for you. Get a little electrolytes going.

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah.

[Lily]

I guess there's salt in there, but it's.

[Alan]

Who is it going?

[Andy]

Didn't, like, Steve O. Do that one time in one of the movies, like, he wore, like, a sweatsuit. They gathered all this sweat. He had a drink.

[Josh]

Oh, my gosh.

[Andy]

Oh, man. That's a good question.

[Alan]

Well done.

[Lily]

Thank you. Thank you, Zach.

[Andy]

Oh, man, that's a rough one. Yeah, I'm have to text that to Alan.

[Josh]

I'm gonna text him right now. Andrew, here's what that beat singer name Drew. Do you have a reel?

[Andy]

Wonder if he does.

[Josh]

I don't know.

[Andy]

Andrew has a reel. He's got to.

[Josh]

Please, Andrew, have a reel.

[Alan]

All right, before we get into this, don't watch it yet. Excuse me. I want to give a shout out to the account that I took this from, because I just straight up took it. I don't know what to make of this. This is from an account called Apollo, the original. And so, you know, we get these, like, conspiracy accounts that come through our feeds because of the nature of what we talk about. And so I'm not making any assertions about this entire situation at all. But in this clip, you're gonna watch the clip. Something's going to happen. I'm like, there's no way this is real. And then I went to the actual video they're referencing, which is on an official news source with millions of views. Like, this isn't some random thing that an account pulled and then edited. This is an actual thing. Watch the clip.

[Josh]

Well, what scares me more Is that. Your battery is almost dead.

[Alan]

I got a new. I got a new phone. We've. We've fixed that problem.

[Josh]

Ready? 3, 2, 1.

[Andy]

14.

[Alan]

Correct.

[Andy]

I believe I got hired before that, but I was on vacation.

[Alan]

Did you catch it?

[Lily]

Wait, let me see.

[Alan]

Now pay. Watch it again and pay attention to the foot of the man walking down the aisle in the background.

[Andy]

Correct. I believe I got hired before that, but I was on vacation.

[Lily]

What?

[Alan]

That's an official broadcast.

[Lily]

It must just be a glitch with a camera. What do you think?

[Josh]

I don't. That just straight up disappeared.

[Alan]

That's a green screen glitch. The background is fake.

[Andy]

Why, though?

[Alan]

I don't know. I have no. I have no thoughts. I don't know what they're doing, but something in this broadcast from NBC Chicago is not real.

[Lily]

What the. Weird.

[Josh]

Oh, that's weird.

[Lily]

I don't know what to think about that.

[Andy]

Yeah, that's strange.

[Lily]

He was acquitted, wasn't he?

[Alan]

Yeah, but I'm not. I don't want to get into all of that.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Alan]

But all I know is that the things they've been feeding us is news for a long time. Time are doctored, so I believe that.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

That was crazy.

[Andy]

Should I. Should we send that Tesla video? You remember that guy that was driving down the street and the side camera?

[Josh]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Andy]

Speaking of glitches, do you have Tick tock?

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Okay, let me send this. This one's really strange. This guy was driving down the street in the middle of the night, and something really, really strange popped up on his camera. And it. It's terrifying. So he's driving out, pulling out of a driveway.

[Alan]

Yep.

[Andy]

Taking a right up ahead of him. There's nothing in the street, correct? Yep. Nothing on the side at all. Pulls up to the intersection, takes another right. The weird part is because luckily, Teslas have those views from all angles. Once again, nothing in the front. And then.

[Alan]

Boom.

[Lily]

What the freak. What is that?

[Andy]

It's right next to the car, dude. He's right next to the car.

[Lily]

I mean, was he in his blind spot or is it.

[Andy]

There's. I mean, you go. You see the whole row.

[Alan]

You see.

[Josh]

He's missing a hand, too.

[Andy]

I mean, it had to have been. Isn't that interesting? Because you know how, like, Teslas will show up like humans, like in cemeteries and stuff like that?

[Alan]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Somebody said, that's just Rodney. He cool?

[Josh]

I'm trying to.

[Andy]

That's.

[Josh]

It's. Maybe he was behind that truck, but that. Even still. That he would have to walk pretty Quickly. Pretty quickly.

[Andy]

And then just stand there right next.

[Josh]

To it, towards the car and stand by it.

[Andy]

Yeah. Someone said, well, are you gonna give him a hand?

[Alan]

Yeah.

[Josh]

That's super weird.

[Andy]

It's so scary. I'm like, I don't know what I would do in that situation.

[Lily]

Oh my gosh. And he has no hand, but. Well, what. What's in there?

[Andy]

He's wearing like a safe, like a crossing guard.

[Lily]

That doesn't even look like his arm.

[Josh]

It's weird.

[Andy]

Like how do you even come up. Like if that's like a prank or a funny video, how do you even come up with that? Like what? Like what? Like it's a creepy guy. You could just have a guy stand there.

[Alan]

Yeah.

[Andy]

The fact that he's missing a hand is even weirder.

[Josh]

That's so weird.

[Lily]

The random guy wondering why you drove through the stop sign blocking the crosswalk and gets accused of being a gun.

[Josh]

Oh, speaking of ghosts, Alan said I.

[Andy]

Cup of sweat because I can use the sodium to my advantage.

[Lily]

Ew, perf.

[Josh]

Do you guys want to hear about the Vatican UFO cover up?

[Alan]

Always.

[Andy]

For sure. Which one?

[Alan]

Which one?

[Josh]

Yeah, the one.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Josh]

Just kidding.

[Alan]

I don't know if it's the one.

[Andy]

Was it jelly roll?

[Josh]

So in.

[Alan]

Let's see.

[Josh]

Yeah. 2023 during the US congressional hearing with the whistleblower David Grush. Right. Remember that?

[Andy]

Yep.

[Josh]

Just casually drops that the. He claims that the Vatican quietly alerted the US and the American forces removed a craft from the Vatican from Italy in 1944 and 1945. Right after World War II.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

So I did some. A little bit of digging into this.

[Andy]

Cool.

[Josh]

There's not a lot. Because there's not a lot of verbiage or proof or paperwork on this stuff. But apparently 1933, it's called the Magenta Crash. 1933, there was this crash in Magenta and Mussolini apparently had this group that was studying UFOs called the RS33 cabinet or Gabanito.

[Andy]

33.

[Alan]

Yeah.

[Josh]

33. I didn't even think about that. We're going to talk more about Rosicrucians.

[Andy]

33.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Ridley Scott.

[Josh]

Ridley Scott.

[Alan]

33.

[Josh]

No, we are actually going to talk more about 33 here later.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Josh]

But. But yeah, they're the special research 33 led by McCroney who was a radio pioneer, but apparently he was super into the study of UFOs and ufology and all that stuff. But in 1933, this craft, apparently huge, crashed in Magenta, Italy. And it was basically. Who's going to get to it first, but then I found out the Vatican heard about it first. The crash. Because the Vatican has an intelligence service.

[Andy]

Their own.

[Josh]

Their own intelligence service.

[Andy]

I mean, I guess it makes sense. They're. They're their own city and stuff, and they're huge, so.

[Josh]

Well, they're just based in Rome, right?

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Magenta. It's not. I mean, it's not Rome, Italy. It's like the Vaticans.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Like, their influence is whatever.

[Lily]

How sophisticated is this intelligence unit?

[Josh]

Apparently pretty sophisticated because the rumor is that the RSS or the RS33 group with Mussolini, because Mussolini was allied with Adolf Hitler and the Nazis. It was basically a race to. Who was going to get it first, the United States or the Nazi party.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

But apparently the Vatican met with the CIA, and as soon as the war ended, the CIA came over and took this craft back to the United States.

[Andy]

After the Vatican had it.

[Josh]

After the Vatican had it.

[Lily]

Was storing it during the war so that the Germans couldn't get it. Right.

[Josh]

Yeah, that's the. That's the story.

[Andy]

Weird.

[Josh]

It's super weird. But then after that, you have Roswell.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Like, very shortly after, we got this craft from the Vatican.

[Lily]

Oh, yeah.

[Josh]

And then you have Project Paperclip.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

For Operation Paperclip. What is it?

[Alan]

The things.

[Josh]

Project Paperclip.

[Lily]

I like the alliteration operation on a monopoeia.

[Josh]

That's where all the Nazi scientists came over, and that's where everything started getting weird. But I just thought that was crazy that in 1933 there was a UFO that crashed in Italy in the Vatican, in the fascist party of Mussolini were basically, who's going to get it first? And apparently the Vatican. If the Vatican didn't get it first, they knew exactly where it was because of their Vatican intelligence service.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

No matter what.

[Josh]

Yeah. But they did not want the allied Nazi party to get it first. And so they reached out to the CIA, who came over and got.

[Andy]

It blows my mind that they're all. At that time, everyone was looking into this stuff.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

And we act like it's just some.

[Josh]

Type of myth, which, you know, there's documentation on this stuff because of Grush talked about it in the congressional hearing.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

He just drops. He's like, yeah, we've known about UFOs for a long time. 1933, the. How the Vatican hid the UFO. And you're like, what?

[Alan]

Is he the only source for this stuff currently? Like, this particular story, or is there.

[Josh]

I may have stories everywhere.

[Alan]

Okay.

[Josh]

Yeah. It's been talked about for a long time. But apparently he's like, yeah, we, the U.S. whatever he's seen, there's better documentation regarding this story.

[Alan]

So it was a rumor and then he got eyes on something and then kind of whistle blew it. Yeah, I got you.

[Josh]

That's the story.

[Lily]

Yeah. And there are accounts of like other things in the sky. It didn't just happen around that time that the bomb was created. Right. It's just maybe the frequency picked up or maybe the recording of times, amounts of times was picked up at that point.

[Josh]

Say that again.

[Lily]

You know the theory about how it's like aliens coming to warn us about our own destruction because of the atomic bomb. There's other cases in the history of the world of seeing things flying in the sky.

[Josh]

Yes.

[Lily]

But maybe the amount of times since then has picked up or something like.

[Josh]

That, I would say.

[Lily]

Or just our ability to record it.

[Alan]

Well, would you say the guy. The guy was like a radio guy?

[Josh]

Yeah, he was.

[Alan]

Because that's interesting.

[Josh]

If like radio pioneer.

[Alan]

So he's. He's listening to frequencies and he would pick up if he's trying to. Even if it's just like to broadcast something to another room. If you're like sending and listening and then out of nowhere you get some weird. Anything you're going for the sake of your research and your. Even if it's just a hobby, you're like, I'm gonna note that. And so if there was something happened, he'd recognize a pattern pretty quick.

[Josh]

Yeah, weird stuff.

[Alan]

He'd be the guy to find. It's what I'm saying.

[Andy]

Why is this the center of the Catholic Church? Not just a church. Why are they dealing with all this hubba baloo, all this UFO junk. Why do they care so much? Well, what are they hiding?

[Josh]

What are they hiding? And we've talked about this before in passing, but I want to talk about it a little bit more. The theory of the Empire of the city.

[Lily]

What's this?

[Josh]

This is the weird stuff. This is where we're going to get really weird.

[Andy]

What is this?

[Josh]

So the empire of the city is the theory that there are in the world three city states. There is the city of London, the Vatican in Washington D.C. okay, these are all city states. So, like the city of London is technically not under the crown, but has ancient rights and privileges.

[Lily]

According to who?

[Josh]

According to. It's like Washington D.C. it's its own city state. It has its own governance. And the Vatican? The same. And Washington D.C. the same. It has. It's under federal jurisdiction.

[Lily]

I did not realize that about London.

[Josh]

Or The city of London. Not London, but the city of London, which is like. They say it's like us. Like us 2 square miles or something within London. The city of London. Yeah.

[Lily]

I did not know about this.

[Josh]

Yeah, it's weird.

[Andy]

You don't know about London Inception.

[Josh]

What's also weird, this connection, is that each city state has an obelisk in it.

[Alan]

I don't like that.

[Josh]

So Washington, with the Washington Monument in D.C. the Vatican, St. Peter's Square obelisk, and the Cleopatra Needle in London, which is super weird that that was even put there. This. This obelisk in London.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Is like thousands of years old. And they literally transported it from Egypt and just it's erected in London. Someone said if you go to London, people are always like wanting to look at like the Big Ben and the historical stuff. He says there's something that's 3,000 years older than the big bench. And he just walks over. It's on the sidewalk.

[Lily]

It's on the sidewalk. Like you can see it.

[Alan]

Yeah.

[Josh]

You can go walk up to it.

[Andy]

What's up with obelisk?

[Lily]

If we could take a little detour. But just because I'm having like a. A new river, I feel like I'm in a dream. Are you saying that in London, is it like walled off?

[Josh]

No, it's like. It's basically their. Their Wall Street.

[Lily]

Okay.

[Alan]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Does it palace or anything like that?

[Josh]

No, it's their financial district within London. So the city of London, like their financial district, is its own city state.

[Andy]

It's right off the river and there are a bunch of hieroglyphics on it.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Weird stuff.

[Lily]

I think I dreamed about this place. I think I knew without knowing what's it called? The City of London.

[Andy]

But it's not London City state, London, Cleopatra's Needle.

[Josh]

Yeah. But the theory is that it's the three crowns that rule the world. So the crown of finance would be London. The crown of religion would be the Vatican, and the crown of military is Washington dc.

[Lily]

Wow.

[Andy]

Yeah, that makes sense.

[Josh]

Yeah. So it's. It. It goes super deep and there's a video on it that's like.

[Alan]

Oh, my gosh.

[Josh]

This is super weird, but have you ever seen Washington DC's flag?

[Andy]

I don't think so.

[Josh]

Don't look it up. Okay, hold on.

[Andy]

Dc, there's a weird statue next to the needle too.

[Josh]

Let me show you this real quick. Come on. Hold on.

[Lily]

This sounds like a conversation I'd have with somebody like Renningers or something. I don't know if this Is real, Josh.

[Josh]

It's just a theory, a scary theory. But this is Washington DC's flag.

[Lily]

Oh. What are the two lines represent?

[Josh]

I don't know. They said that. So the theory is that the three stars represent each city state. So London city or the city of London, the Vatican and Washington dc. Others have said that that was George Washington's family crest, which that could be a possibility too.

[Andy]

He did a lot of weird stuff as well.

[Josh]

So he did a lot of weird.

[Andy]

Stuff that I don't know. I don't know about anything about the flag. I guess we'll have to look into that. But that's.

[Josh]

Here's my, my pushback on the three. The, the empire, the city or whatever. The Vatican. The Catholic Church is very outspoken against Freemasonry.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Alan]

I didn't know that.

[Josh]

Yeah. They said basically if you're a Freemason, you are not Catholic and you are not saved. Which that's just what they said. And Washington D.C. is its birth is Freemasonry. Like it's even its layout. Freemason symbolism within it. And so I don't know. That's my only pushback with the whole idea. And even London, like London is. That's where like Freemasonry was like really flourishing.

[Lily]

There's a couple of things. And like, I mean, this has to be a relatively new concept. Right. Because for. It's not like this was existing. I mean like we're a new state nation.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

What are the implications of this, Josh?

[Josh]

That it's basically this hidden government within the world that is running everything. So like the banks of England, the Vatican spiritually wise to guide the people, and then the US being the military back of all of it.

[Lily]

If that were the case, we'd have a lot more Catholics in the United States. And that's not what's happening.

[Josh]

We do have a lot of Catholics, but everybody.

[Lily]

It's a mostly Protestant nation.

[Josh]

Is it?

[Lily]

I think.

[Andy]

I don't know.

[Lily]

Maybe I'm just living in my own echo chamber.

[Josh]

It's weird though.

[Andy]

It's weird that it literally doesn't have like. It's not definitive on what the flag means. It's not on the paper.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Of like this is what it represents.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

That's weird.

[Alan]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Because everything has like a written out meaning. Like they didn't even fake it.

[Josh]

It's also just weird that these three places in the world are within their own countries and they all have their own laws and jurisdiction in these tiny little areas.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

You know, the Vatican makes sense because the History of the Vatican. Like, Rome was. I mean, it used to be like Italy was Rome. Right. And so, like, the Pope ruled over Rome.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And then after all these battles and stuff, they basically got pushed into what is now the Vatican.

[Andy]

Yeah. But they ain't going nowhere.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

London's weird, though, right?

[Josh]

The city of London. That's a weird one.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

And that's huge. There's a lot of weird stuff with that. I'm looking at the obelisk and it's just very strange. There's even, like, marks, apparently. They say the scars on it were from bombings that have. From, like, German airplanes. Wow. Yeah.

[Josh]

I'll just read this too. Some say the British crown and the Vatican worked hand in hand through banking families like the Rothschilds to fund wars and empires, which. That's true.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

We know the Rothschilds were very integral in, like, all the wars and, like, funding each side.

[Andy]

Huge.

[Josh]

Washington D.C. is seen as the new Rome, built on Masonic blueprints with its street layouts allegedly hiding occults and symbols, which I would say it is.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Because the architect of Washington D.C. was a Freemason.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Very outspoken about it. The idea that while governments appear independent, these three centers coordinate global money, war and belief systems. But the new Rome thing, that's a very interesting take because if you look at the symbolism within dc, it's very Roman. Like, I mean, even the eagle itself, that was like the Roman thing, you know? But even, like the. If you look, it's everywhere. It's even in the. What do you call it? The House, like, where Congress and Senate meet or whatever. On each side, there's these bundles of wheat reeds that are bundled together, even like the eagles holding it. Lincoln. The Lincoln Memorial, where he's sitting on each pillar, it's these bundles of reeds, which. That was a Roman symbol for which it's the. Translated from fascists, which means to fasten together. Like, we are stronger together than a separate read.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And so if you look. I need to. I should have pulled up the pictures. But, like, it has the reeds tied together and then it has two axes coming out of it, which is a. It was a Roman symbol of fascists. So we're stronger together, but we're ready for war, basically.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And it's just there's a lot of Roman symbolism within America, which is super weird to me.

[Andy]

The whole thing's weird, man. Like, it's like what. What they choose to fixate on, what they choose to set, like. Like represent our country's culture and like the foundation of it. They had to have thought there had to been some importance around it. Not more than just symbolism because it's like you see it all over. I mean, we look at our money for goodness sakes.

[Josh]

There's definitely more than just symbolism big time. Like there, there's a real occult ness to all this stuff. It's just weird.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Alan]

So I'm. I'm stuck on the England or London angle and looking at the Washington family coat of arms. And so that dates back to England like quite a long ways. Like this is the soul grave manor in England. Like going back historically, looking historically, looking at Washington's family crest. Like that is where it comes from. But I was like, so what's his connection then to. You know, I'm wondering what did he really. Is he just a rando who came over here? But he's actually distantly related to the monarchy. He shares ancestry with prominent English families. The G A S, C O I, G N E S and the Percy's. But he's related to King Edward III and Queen Elizabeth the second. So he's actually, you know, you talk about the royal family and how they go all over the place. He's actually distantly related to the crown.

[Josh]

Why do you fight them?

[Andy]

Interesting.

[Alan]

Why is his family crest? It's just obviously like he came over here and did all that, but it's just weird that you would take something like that.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Or did he fight them? Is that what we were just told? They're like, go young son, go across the seas.

[Josh]

Make them subjects. Yes. But yeah, it's a, it's a fun theory.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Scary theory.

[Andy]

But when. What is the obelisk named after?

[Alan]

Washington.

[Josh]

Washington Monument. Yeah, the obelisk thing is weird to me. Like, especially in the Vatican. Yeah. And like the Vatican has a ton of weird symbolism too. Like the giant pine cone that we've talked about before. That's all. And like the Sumerian, Babylonian hieroglyphics and stuff.

[Alan]

Yeah. Why are. Why are pagan like in the Judeo Christian world? Why are pagan imagery like, why is that what we chose to mark our nations with?

[Josh]

Yeah, I think the orthodox have something to say about it.

[Andy]

Lily.

[Josh]

What do they say about it?

[Lily]

I wasn't listening.

[Andy]

What is the pineapple thing that had to do with your brain, Right?

[Josh]

Pine cone.

[Andy]

Pine cone. That's what I said.

[Josh]

Yeah, that's what I said. It's like the pineal gland or whatever it's called. Yeah. Interesting, weird stuff. You guys talk about something else real quick. I gotta be because when I get.

[Andy]

Back, let's talk about pineapples.

[Josh]

When I get back, I have some crazy stuff to talk about. NASA.

[Andy]

And we got to listen to that 911 call.

[Josh]

Oh, yeah, okay.

[Andy]

That one's creepy. When's the last time you had to call 911, Lily?

[Lily]

I was actually talking about it this morning with Jane.

[Andy]

What do you mean, Jane?

[Lily]

We saw an ambulance driving, and she was like, someone needs help. And I was like, yeah, you're right. And I was like, one time I had to do that. I actually had to do it twice for Adam. Such a spaz. But remember when I was pregnant with Jane and Ada got. She knew. She was like a crazy baby, like, wild baby. And she got stuck in the table.

[Andy]

And I. Oh, my goodness.

[Lily]

And it was like, oh, I felt terrible because it was like the first time that Josh was going out to hang out with his friends, like, since we became parents. He had to be there for 10 minutes. And I'm like, I take up. Call the police. And I'm holding the table, and I'm holding Ada with my ginormous belly with Jane in there. And Josh calls Taylor, and Taylor runs over and cuts Ada out of the table before the firemen get there.

[Andy]

They still show up?

[Lily]

Yeah, they still showed up. And they're like, I guess I'm. I have a problem with communication with a lot of people in my life. I tell them something and they come out with a different idea. And I realized it's got to be me. And so when I called the police, they thought that she had broken through a glass table and was chopped to bits. So the firefighters got there, like, game on. Ready?

[Andy]

Yeah, it was probably. It was probably. I think it's probably the way you say it. I think there was probably so much panic. They're like, there's no way this woman would be freaking out this much if it truly wasn't a disaster. I know it had to have been a life ending situation.

[Lily]

To me, it was a disaster because she. If I let go of that table, her leg would have snapped.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

That's so scary.

[Lily]

And she was a baby, you know, And I had a baby in my tummy. I'm sitting here, I'm like, holding both of them. And then I also called Ada one time when. Or the. The ambulance one time. And she rode in the ambulance when she had the stomach bug for, like, three days. Throwing up, throwing up, throwing up. And she's not one to, like, she passed out in my arms at the urgent care. And I was like, I'M freaking out.

[Josh]

Right.

[Lily]

And everybody's like, she's fine.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

But I'm like, I don't trust you. Call the ambulance. And we got to the hospital and it is like, can I have some ice cream? She was totally.

[Andy]

I deserve an ice cream after that ride.

[Lily]

I know. And, yeah, I'm just a total spaz. You hear so many scary stories, though. That's the only thing. Like, I just don't trust that I'm gonna know, you know, like, so many people. I hear stories all the time of, like, kids getting sick and parents being like, oh, they're fine and then not catching it. And then.

[Andy]

Yeah, happens all the time.

[Lily]

Happens all the time. So I'd rather be the spaz, I guess.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

You see, Trump just came out and said, don't take Tylenol.

[Andy]

Oh, yeah, big time.

[Alan]

Yep.

[Andy]

He just did a whole speech about it.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Alan]

Tylenol is a brand.

[Josh]

Yeah, I know.

[Alan]

He can't say the. Oh.

[Josh]

Can he not?

[Alan]

No. He apparently did a bunch of interviews and was saying it and was just like acid. And so now he's saying Tylenol. So I think he's going to get in some sort of trouble. Acetaminophen is the supposed correlation between autism and.

[Lily]

Wow.

[Alan]

Like prena. The prenatal pregnancy. That's true.

[Josh]

That's crazy.

[Lily]

Well, and when you're pregnant, they say that's the only thing you could take. You can't take ibuprofen. You can only take acetaminophen.

[Josh]

I told Andy that Babylon B posted a thing that said Calvinism is on the decline because Trump and RFK have cured autism.

[Alan]

That joke was meant to exist.

[Josh]

It's pretty funny.

[Alan]

That joke was meant to exist.

[Andy]

I. I don't think maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I am probably. I don't think we're supposed to listen, hear from our President this often. I don't care who the President is. That's not a knock at drum or anybody.

[Josh]

No, it's.

[Andy]

I don't think we should be hearing from our president daily.

[Josh]

Daily. No. Yeah.

[Andy]

I don't need your inner thoughts.

[Josh]

Yeah, I don't need it.

[Andy]

I think it's kind of like, because it was so special whenever the, the President addressed the nation. Now it's like, now you're just. Now there's just so much. I'm just learning to tune it out because I can't handle it.

[Alan]

And everyone used to come together, like the FBI and the President would have like a. This is a thing we've compiled for you to Know. Yeah.

[Andy]

And it was exciting. Let's sit down. Let's listen to this. This is a big deal. But now it's like, I. It all meshes together.

[Alan]

Now I'm doing Twitter research or X research, trying to figure out, wait, do they agree? Are they saying the same thing?

[Josh]

Well, yeah, because they. Even today, like, they'll be like, the President is going to address the nation. And it's like, okay, what's. What he's going to say, but really, he's addressing the nation every day.

[Alan]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Josh]

And like, so it used to be, like, a pretty special, important thing. Like when it says, oh, the President's going to address the nation.

[Andy]

Yeah. And so you. That information that they would want to share, they had to, like, go through probably certain amount of filters. Like, is this worthy of a conference? Press conference?

[Lily]

Well, that's.

[Alan]

I've done that like, four times. You go.

[Lily]

You go ahead.

[Alan]

No, no, you're good.

[Lily]

I. I disagree. I like hearing what they're doing because I guess if. If somebody's in office, I want to know what they're doing. What I can't stand is the diarrhea of the mouth. Like you said, his stream of consciousness.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Cut out the garbage. Somebody get him in a speech class. For real.

[Alan]

That's. That's the point I was gonna make. So, like, he's tweeting every day, posting every day, and then his public address is actually just the culmination of everything he's already said online, which equates a presidential address to what we do, which is gathering random research and then compiling it into an address. But he's a worse communicator because he's live versus us, where we get to take the time to take what we've seen, or not us, but, like, people like us. And then we speak to a camera, we cut it together and edit it, which makes social media people commentating on his X feed. It's a more concise, more informative process than actually listening to the President.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Alan]

That's a scary reality.

[Lily]

No, I know. I will say, I was observing his speech at the Charlie Kirk Memorial, and I mean, you can almost see it. Right? Like, he's. Someone wrote a speech for him. Right. Which is all the presidents have that happened for them. They get like. They collaborate on speeches, and, I mean, it was a great speech. But then you see him do this rabbit trail.

[Alan]

Yeah.

[Lily]

And that's when you get off, and that's where you're like, oh, I'm really nervous about what's happened.

[Andy]

He's not writing, though, so. Ever.

[Josh]

Well, yeah.

[Andy]

Like, he's there. They have writers, and so you can tell, like. And this is just something that, like, the writer probably needs to get better at. It's like, listen, you got to be able to write for this person so it sounds organic because you can tell when it's scripted and when it's not. It's so obvious.

[Lily]

But he. But he would get back on track. He would go off and say something like, we cured autism. And Charlie would be stoked about that. And then he would go on to back onto the speech, and then you're like, that was so good. Keep up with whatever that was. Yeah, quit going over here because you're. You're getting yourself in trouble.

[Alan]

I hate that he keeps looking, like when he did the. The address about autism and acetaminophen, he's. He makes a comment and he goes, that's true. I believe that's true. And he, like, looks back to his advisor, and I'm like, you. Why are you looking for affirmation, dude? Like, you're supposed to be the voice. Not that. Or don't for me. But I'm like, you're supposed to be the one who's telling something. Don't look behind you.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Alan]

You just made someone else more powerful than you.

[Andy]

Am I cured or am I not.

[Josh]

Crazy?

[Andy]

It's wild.

[Alan]

Yeah, that's got. It's a fun, fun study to be dropping with the season of life that I'm in right now.

[Lily]

I know it's scary. I mean, like, look, I've got two babies that I took Tylenol a lot while I was pregnant with them.

[Alan]

Yeah. What the assertion, though, is that, like, people are now autistic because of Tylenol. And then you've got, like, all these people on Reddit and all these people in the comments that are like, well, here's my autistic kid. And I didn't take it. The fact that Tylenol came out after autism was discovered or acetaminophen came out after. So it's like this whole thing, it's like, I want to believe rfk. I want to believe there's a solution. Yeah, that would be great. But, like, the research isn't passing the, well, duh filter.

[Josh]

No.

[Alan]

And so that sucks.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Yeah. There's a lot of factors, I will say. My friend Jordan Wiggins has two sons, twins, with autism on different ends of the spectrum. And she posted something today that really well articulated, I think, the perspective of a parent, of a parent with children with autism. And she was just like, you feel any way that you want to feel about this. And she's like, I feel. I feel all the things. I feel like, obviously, we need to get a handle on how many children are coming out with autism right now. But autism is also a gift, and my sons are a gift to me. You know, she really well articulated it.

[Alan]

So I, like, I use a reference to the Andy Griffith show because guaranteed, like, Gomer Pyle had something but wasn't labeled. Barney Fife was a spaz, but wasn't labeled. And so, like, they're saying all these people are labeled now, and it's like, they just didn't label people. You know?

[Andy]

Those guys weren't real, right? What?

[Alan]

That was a historic show. Well, no, we're gonna talk about.

[Andy]

We're. We'll have to talk about this.

[Alan]

That was a course in my homeschool program.

[Andy]

No, it's a documentary. Have you guys. Have we ever talked about the Tylenol murders?

[Lily]

Yeah, dude, I. At least I have.

[Alan]

The what?

[Andy]

The Tylenol murders.

[Lily]

Oh, Tylenol. What are you saying?

[Andy]

Tylenol.

[Lily]

Tylenol.

[Andy]

Is there an effort, two L's.

[Lily]

Tylenol.

[Andy]

Tylenol.

[Lily]

Tyrenol.

[Josh]

Tylenol.

[Andy]

Tylenol.

[Josh]

You're joking, right?

[Alan]

I don't know.

[Andy]

I don't take that stuff.

[Alan]

I'm.

[Andy]

I'm safe with my body. I don't know how to pronounce it.

[Josh]

Tylenol.

[Andy]

Tylenol.

[Lily]

What do you do when you have a headache?

[Andy]

Suck it up.

[Lily]

Really? You suffer?

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Wow.

[Andy]

It's just not worth it because that would just be taking, like, pills all the time.

[Josh]

I feel like someone put, like, stuff that killed people in tunnel, right?

[Andy]

Yeah, but this is, like, before the safety seals, arsenic and so that, like, it would happen. I'll. I'll look it up. Maybe we could talk about. On, like, Patreon or something. But, like, yeah, it was like, it just kept happening, and there was, like, no way of tracking it. Like, it's like, how do you.

[Josh]

That's so scary.

[Lily]

How do you know it was happening in different ends of the country? And so there was like, no, but people were just dialing. Dying of arsenic. And then finally they traced it back to these people had been taking Tylenol and went back to the plant. Somebody had been putting arsenic inside.

[Andy]

Yeah, they found, like, the common denominator, that it was, like, one. It was the. It was the drugs. But then also they're like, okay, but how do we find out who is doing this? Yeah, because you would just Find out. Oh, they took that right before they came in. Or that's what happened.

[Lily]

And let me tell you, I learned that I heard this story in a uniquely paranoid season of my life, and it didn't do me no favors.

[Alan]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Because it's like I literally am opening medicine. Is this gonna kill me right now?

[Andy]

Yeah. Or never know.

[Lily]

Don't live like that.

[Andy]

So you don't take it? No. Medicine is good for you.

[Alan]

I'm kind of excited to hear this. 911 call.

[Josh]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Andy]

Do we do out the cord or.

[Josh]

No, no, just do it in the microphone.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Josh]

This is a crazy thing. If this is real, this is crazy.

[Andy]

I mean, people are saying it's real. Like, it sounds very, very genuine. All right, so this is a North Carolina 911 call that happened just this month.

[Lily]

What's the address of your emergency?

[Andy]

I'm driving on 210. I just crossed the Black river, and I thought I saw a guy standing on the side of the road bleeding.

[Alan]

Whoa.

[Lily]

Okay. Where are you at, Sir?

[Andy]

I'm on 210. I just crossed the Black River. I'm heading towards 53. I just passed Patriots Watch.

[Lily]

Okay, so you're over near Morse Creek.

[Andy]

Yes.

[Lily]

Okay. And did you. You saw a man standing on the side of the.

[Andy]

What was that, sir? That's not human. That's not human. Sir, are you okay, sir? There's something in the back of my truck.

[Lily]

Okay, what's in the road?

[Andy]

No, it's not in the road. It's in my truck. In the bed.

[Lily]

There's something in the bed of your truck?

[Andy]

Yes, ma'. Am. I just turned on my bed light for my truck, and there's something in my bag.

[Lily]

Okay, sir, when you say something, what do you mean?

[Andy]

I just knocked it off of the.

[Alan]

Bed of my truck and went over my room.

[Andy]

Okay, what was it, according to the CAD notes?

[Lily]

What's that say? What? What?

[Andy]

I don't know. I didn't know. I haven't sucked that part. I just knocked it off of the.

[Alan]

Bed of my truck and went over my room.

[Lily]

Okay, what was it?

[Andy]

According to the CAD notes and the deputy reports, this thing jumped into the back of his pickup truck and began to actually beat on the top of the cab of his truck. You could actually hear something beating on the top of the truck. The caller stated that it was beating and scratching on the top of the cab of his truck. He actually stated that he was able to engage his bed light and was able to. He was just repeating what happened.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Alan]

That'S not human. That's not human.

[Andy]

That's so scary.

[Alan]

I don't want to hear these stories until hunting season.

[Josh]

That's just like Jake's story, though. They thought, yeah. Colorado.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

So freaky.

[Andy]

It's weird, man. I don't like that at all. That would be so scary listening that as a 911 operator.

[Josh]

So scary.

[Andy]

What do you mean?

[Josh]

What do you mean it's not humid? What is it?

[Lily]

It was making me crazy how calm the 911 operator was. She's just like, okay, sir, what's it doing now?

[Andy]

What are you talking about right now?

[Josh]

It's like.

[Alan]

It's like Paige listening to me come home after ninjas. I'm like, telling her everything we've talked about. She's like, okay, all right. What is it now?

[Andy]

Have you seen that trend where it's like the spouse that doesn't believe in conspiracy theories? And you're walking around, it's like, you don't find this suspicious? You don't find this suspicious?

[Josh]

That's me every day, all day. Speaking of suspicious, though, Jesse Michaels just came out with the video American Alchemy. American Alchemy. Amazing. The research in it was amazing. And the title of it was.

[Alan]

It.

[Josh]

Was called NASA Expode UFOs pagan rituals in Time Travel.

[Alan]

Whoa.

[Andy]

And it's a heck of a title.

[Josh]

I know. I'm like, this sounds interesting, dude. I watched the whole thing. There's so much information. So I just want to talk about some of the stuff that point that stuck out to me, which are crazy. So it's very strange. The connections to Russia, Germany and America, the rocket programs and the inventors of the rockets and stuff were all kind of around the same time all over the world. But what's interesting about all these men that were these rocket engineers, they're all very, very into the occult.

[Lily]

Oh, gosh.

[Josh]

And so one guy, Jack Parsons, who is called the America's Rocket Godfather, basically, he's the one that started the rocket program in the United States. He was part of this organization called blah blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[Alan]

It was called.

[Josh]

Oh, my gosh, where is it? The Hermetic Order of the golden dawn, which. That he was basically underneath. Alistair Crowley.

[Alan]

No way. Confirmed.

[Josh]

Yeah, confirmed. He had his own chapter in California, in Pasadena.

[Alan]

No question. This isn't alleged.

[Josh]

Not alleged. He really had his own chapter of this Hermetic Order of the golden dawn, which is basically this occult group. So Aleister Crowley, he joined the Hermetic Order of the golden dawn, where he was trained in Ceremonial magic.

[Lily]

Oh, gosh.

[Josh]

And it's. It's just this complete occult, very evil stuff. But this guy, Jack Parsons, the rocket godfather of America.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

He had his own chapter in Pasadena, California.

[Alan]

That's freaking weird because Crowley's easy to dismiss, is just a weird, crazy person. But then you've got somebody who's like advancing science, who's bought into the same stuff.

[Josh]

Well, it's weird too, is I was just looking up Alistair Crowley about all this stuff and Alistair Crowley was allegedly in the. Like pulled into British intelligence.

[Alan]

What?

[Josh]

Yeah. And they said that he was potentially a spy his entire life for British intelligence, which I've never heard that before.

[Andy]

No.

[Josh]

And Alistair Crowley, the angle, I don't.

[Alan]

Know, is that Britain is spying on American science through chapters of.

[Josh]

I don't know, but occult stuff. Jack Parsons, he said that he's. He basically was terrible at school, didn't get good grades, but he was awesome at making stuff explode. And he said that through the ceremonial magic and whatnot. Him just like others, like the Nazi party, These Russian engineers, they all received this information about going to space and going to the stars from different entities.

[Lily]

Oh, come on.

[Josh]

They said it was never our knowledge, it was gifted to us. Yeah, they called them like downloads and stuff. These entities would give them downloads of how to build these things to where they could go to space.

[Andy]

What in the world? Downloads. That's the same speech that we use for that one AI guy that went to the.

[Josh]

I think it's a pretty common phrase with like receiving information or.

[Andy]

Yeah, just maybe Sting.

[Josh]

But that was just a weird thing to me, this connection of like pretty much the same exact time all over the world. These engineers were receiving these revelations from entities being like, you have to travel, you have to conquer space, conquer the stars. This is how you're going to do it. And they all built these rockets around the same time.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Just crazy to me. And we've talked about before the Nazis with their like, being in the occult and like the supernatural stuff and like, really weird. But I also discovered that Buzz Aldrin, along with a ton of astronauts, a ton of NASA directors, were all 33 degree Freemasons. And Buzz Aldrin, when he went. When he landed on the moon with him, one of his belongings that he brought was a. A tiny little silk flag that was from the Freemason Scottish Reich movement, the 33 degree Masons. Super weird.

[Andy]

What are we doing?

[Josh]

Yeah, this is.

[Andy]

How does that all. Like, how do they all have that in common, all those big rocket scientists? How does that like a priority for them?

[Josh]

Well, if you study, like, macianic stuff, they're. They're also fascinated with the stars and, like, all this stuff.

[Lily]

Men be fraternizing.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Women could do it, too.

[Josh]

Yeah. But this flag is now on display in the Masonic temple in Washington, D.C. the one that Buzz Aldrin brought to the moon, which another weird thing was the. The. That Jesse point out was the Apollo patch. Let me send it to you guys. So we need to do a full.

[Alan]

Episode on masonry, and that's the episode when Nick Cage agrees to come on the show.

[Lily]

Nice.

[Josh]

So, like, the esoteric meaning behind the Apollo patch. Apollo is the Greek God of the sun. And it's also just a really weird thing that he pointed out that all the. The rockets and stuff are named after Greek gods.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Which. That's just like.

[Andy]

Okay, we can name them anything.

[Josh]

Anything.

[Andy]

We could name them whatever we want.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Like Clifford.

[Josh]

Clifford Mission.

[Andy]

Like, we can make up words, too.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Why does it always have to be weird?

[Josh]

So you see that A. The giant A, obviously.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

The constellation that is to the right of that A above is the Orion constellation.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Josh]

And the crossbar, though, that goes through the A is Orion's belt. And it's. You can see it's like, highlighted. The Egyptian. The. So the Egyptian God. Sorry, the three. Those three stars for the Egyptians represented Osiris, which is the God of the afterlife. Afterlife, death and resurrection. And it could mean Jesse made this connection. He's just like. I'm just saying this. The A, as it could stand for Apollo, could also stand for Assar or Asar. Sorry, easy. Could stand for Asar, which is the Egyptian name for Osiris. So it's like this. It's this worshiping of Osiris the God. And one of these rocket engineer dudes, or. No, it was one of the guys that was part of doing the telescopes and stuff. He was super into, like, this. Knowledge of the stars is not a new thing. In fact, we're tapping into these ancient civilizations, like the Babylonians, the Egyptians. And there's a. I guess this telescope in Pasadena that he made. And above it is just all these hieroglyphics and whatnot. And they have the sun, which is like Osiris. And it's. It's super weird. But yeah, the video is amazing. Like, he just, like the connections he makes is insane. Really weird things. So one of the test pads for NASA, there's only, like, one or one of these test pads where they tested the Apollo missions was test pad number 33. And there's only one Runway at NASA. Only one Runway?

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

It's not Runway one, not Runway a. It's Runway 33.

[Andy]

Why?

[Lily]

You weren't kidding when you were saying we're going to talk a lot about the number 33.

[Josh]

I know.

[Andy]

Why?

[Josh]

Super weird.

[Andy]

It just, I mean, that's, that's the tough thing is like when you can't connect the dots, but when you see the dots are wide out there in the open.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

You're just like. But why do they exist?

[Josh]

Yeah, it's.

[Andy]

I don't get it, man. There's. This is just beyond me.

[Josh]

It's super weird.

[Andy]

I hate it. But there's just secretive.

[Alan]

Oh, what.

[Josh]

What is her name? No, that's close, but it's not it. She's been on Blurry Joe Rogan. Oh, what is her name? Diana Pasulka, I think.

[Andy]

Dude, if you nailed that.

[Josh]

Diana Pasolka.

[Lily]

Hey.

[Josh]

She'S a professor at I think a college in North Carolina or something where she teaches religious studies, whatnot. But she's super into like the alien stuff too. We've talked about her before with like, she's been in the Vatican archives. She's seen the books and stuff on the alien stuff. But in her book, in an interview, she uses a pseudonym for someone refers to him as Timothy Taylor. And this guy who's a real person, but he goes under a pseudonym, which is all very confusing me, but he is a NASA mission controller currently, and he said that he's influenced and receives downloads from non human intelligence. And some of these downloads have led to real engineering patents that they use at NASA.

[Lily]

Oh, my gosh.

[Josh]

And this is a weird connection too. We've talked about Chris Bledsoe before. Remember the guy?

[Lily]

Yes.

[Andy]

It's called the orbs. Yeah.

[Josh]

But apparently Timothy Taylor has told Chris Bledsoe's son that he is part. This is crazy. That he is part of a secret time travel program located in the Bahamas and that Thomas Townsend Brown was president of that group. Thomas Townsend Brown, born 1905, died 1985, was an American inventor and physicist, better known for his controversial, controversial research into what he called electrogravitics in a supposed connection between electricity and gravity, basically making anti gravity, but also manipulating time. Jesse. Michael knows a ton about Thomas Brown. Thomas Townsend Brown. But that connection was weird. But apparently this guy, Timothy Taylor has a book on Amazon. And before anyone knew who this guy was, there was one review for his book, and it was five stars, this review. And the person that did the review was Thomas Townsend Brown's daughter.

[Lily]

Wow.

[Josh]

So there's a clear connection to there.

[Andy]

Sure.

[Josh]

But this whole time travel group in the Bahamas, he's the director or the mission controller for NASA.

[Andy]

The review was from 800 BC.

[Alan]

Wait, did you ever figure out the name of that weird base that's somewhere down there?

[Josh]

No, I keep on forgetting to look that up.

[Lily]

What's hilarious?

[Alan]

That wouldn't be there, would it?

[Josh]

No, because this says I was in Nassau, which I don't know how close it is.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

What's hilarious is that Andy made the connection. He's like, what if they just totally got it in the Bahamas and what do they do? What if that's, like, the birthplace of, like.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Into gravity and time travel.

[Andy]

Hey, we're going there on the cruise.

[Josh]

Hey, give me the deets.

[Andy]

I'll find it. Dude. As soon as we pour it, I'm running.

[Josh]

Video is amazing, though.

[Andy]

I'll have to watch. It's on YouTube.

[Josh]

Yeah, it's on YouTube, but you just like. This is crazy.

[Andy]

I don't.

[Josh]

The Freemasonry and the occult stuff within, very high sophisticated engineering, physics, space travel, they're all into it.

[Andy]

It's like, it's a prerequisite for them.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Like, they have to be like, that's what they're looking for.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Alan]

There's something real there. Because it's so easy to dismiss all this stuff, but then the fact that, like, it always trips me out that the wise men, or the magi. Magi, however you want to say it, that they actually were following a star. Like.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Alan]

They. Some. Somehow the stars informed people of a prophecy we tell and a fulfillment we tell every Christmas. Yeah, like that. That's always tripped me out. Like, there's something.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Alan]

There.

[Josh]

Well, we've talked about before. The watchers taught how to read and observe the stars and signs and stuff. Right?

[Alan]

Yeah.

[Josh]

It's like that was a heavenly knowledge. So it's like.

[Lily]

Yeah, like some.

[Andy]

What.

[Lily]

What is the distinction, I guess, as I'm on board between what Andrew said, like, what is what is righteous and not righteous.

[Alan]

Yeah. And. But like, so then. And then it begs questions, like, is this because. Is the. Is the universe causal? Like, does what I do to you affect the future? And it does. But then, are the stars predicting? Do people teach that they're controlling?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Alan]

When they say stars, what is it actually? Because there's some weird fringe stuff that talks about, like, fallen angels and stars themselves. And so it's like, no, dude, I.

[Lily]

Saw something the other day. I was talking about horoscopes Right. And like we know that. That horoscopes are not allowed in the Bible. Right. They say it's a bad thing.

[Andy]

That's so Virgo of you.

[Lily]

But they, somebody was, they did a video, they did all this research and I can't cite it, but they were saying that each of these horoscopes are aligned with a demon God in the Bible. They all are associated with a specific one. Like Taurus is like BAAL or something like that.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

And.

[Josh]

Well, it's also weird that we named all the planets after Greek gods too. Then if we know anything that we've talked about is that Greek gods were actually probably real, but they were just demonic entities.

[Andy]

Yeah. You know, and now we've just animated them and made them seem like just silly little myths.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

You know, made them for kids.

[Josh]

It's all weird. But he talks about, there's like. I mean, the research was amazing, but like even like specific launch dates that they did aligned with like ancient pagan holidays. And like one of these launches, I think it was the Apollo 11, their launch date aligned with this pagan holiday where it basically talked about opening these portals to the, to another realm.

[Alan]

No way.

[Josh]

Stuff. It's like just the weirdest symbolism ever. It's like, there's no way this is an accident that all these dudes are into the Freemasonry, into the occult, into all this weird stuff.

[Andy]

It can't be like, it.

[Josh]

How.

[Andy]

It's, it's not just like a hobby.

[Alan]

Yeah.

[Andy]

It's not like knitting. It's not like, oh yeah, I like to, you know, I like to collect stamps on the way. It's like, no, this is a very specific thing that you're putting a lot of time and energy into that you're committing your life to. I mean, to become a 33 degree Freemason. That's not just.

[Josh]

Well, that's what.

[Andy]

I'm gonna do that every weekend and see what happens.

[Josh]

A connection I made was that. So a lot of people, we've had some people comment like Freemasons aren't bad, they're not bad people and stuff. It's like, okay, but what we've heard is that when you get to the 33 degree and. Or 30. Yeah. That. That's when this indoctrination, this like true occult practice happens. And it's like this conditioning to get you there. But then the secrecy within the 33 degree Masons is locked up tight.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And it's like those would be the best people to recruit for specific things. Within the u. S. Government.

[Andy]

Sure.

[Josh]

People that, you know are good at keeping secrets.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Well, and also they can buy into something.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

There's like a loyalty element.

[Andy]

Yeah. Loyalty is big. Do you see that? They had the face of Apollo as well, on the moon.

[Josh]

Oh, there you go.

[Lily]

Wow. And groupthink is real. Especially like when you're in a.

[Andy]

A.

[Lily]

A group of dudes probably, like, you can influence group think. I'm not saying. I'm not genderizing it. I'm just saying, like, when you're in a group of people that are like, like, groupthink is real.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

It's hard to be the person that says, this is wrong.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

You know?

[Andy]

Yeah. Especially when it's go down too far down a path and you're just like, oh, do I leave or. Yeah, do I say something?

[Josh]

Dude, I'll never forget going into that Masonic temple in grand rapids where he. I still don't know how he showed us all this stuff.

[Andy]

Stuff.

[Josh]

But he showed us the. The room, the ceremony. And above was all the constellations and stuff. And in the middle of this checkerboard room was an altar. And this is where they do their mat. Their mock sacrifices under this constellation over Ryan or whatever it was. It's like there's a bunch of boys hanging out.

[Alan]

It's like, no, that G2 for sacred geometry.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Alan]

I've had my suspicions of that since Rob Dyrdek landed a switch laser flip with a skateboard covered in sacred geometry. Oh, did he ever watch Robin big?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Alan]

Okay.

[Josh]

I didn't. I don't know what the words you just said were, though.

[Alan]

That was. That was a deep cut for me. People my age. Did you say sacred geometry? He had a skateboard and he took the skateboard and he like, put literally, like a pattern of sacred geometry. He's trying to convince big to buy into it. He's like, you're crazy. And he's like, if I land ace. So you know what a trey flip is?

[Josh]

No.

[Alan]

360 flip.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Alan]

He'll flip version. So it's all backwards. Is a laser flip. And then he does one switch. He says, if I land one right now, he's like, you'll believe. And he literally just nails it. Sacred G. Rob. That was way too much.

[Andy]

Soul to soul.

[Josh]

So to soul. Who's Rob Dirty. The.

[Lily]

Oh, ridiculousness. Okay.

[Josh]

Ridiculousness.

[Andy]

Ridiculousness.

[Lily]

Ridiculous. That's from the Harry Potter too.

[Josh]

But yeah, everyone go watch that.

[Andy]

I'm definitely going to. I'm also going to look into freemasons too. I'M going to, like, find somebody that actually I'm just going to, you know, put in my application. I think that's the best way to go about it. We got to figure this out.

[Lily]

My dad's friend's on the ground. My dad's Fred friend. Fred is like, what, a 32nd degree Mason or something like that?

[Josh]

I don't remember.

[Lily]

He can't get there.

[Josh]

He's also a pastor.

[Lily]

He's also a pastor, yeah.

[Josh]

It is weird, though, that the Vatican, the Pope has said, you cannot be in a Catholic church and be a freemason.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

They've had a lot of beef for.

[Andy]

A long time, though, the mock sacrifices. To me, like, it's. I don't know, I always feel like, what if it does mean something or if it does affect something supernatural?

[Josh]

Yeah, right.

[Andy]

Like if it's not just a ritual? Like, what if there is some type of affliction happening in another time? Maybe more like somewhere on this earth now?

[Josh]

It's weird.

[Andy]

It's very weird. It gives me very strange vibes.

[Josh]

We. I need to do an episode on Aleister Crowley, though.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

There's a lot of really weird stuff. And apparently he worked for British Intelligence. Didn't know that.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

That's crazy.

[Alan]

Should have Tripoli back and get him on that. He references him all the time.

[Josh]

Oh, does he? Yeah. Super weird. No, it's not weird, though. What's the episode we got right after this?

[Andy]

Oh, you want more?

[Josh]

Oh, you want more of this?

[Alan]

Huh?

[Josh]

Huh?

[Andy]

Guess What? Go to patreon.com or become a YouTube member today. You get an extra episode every week on Ninja Elite. Yeah, there's different levels.

[Alan]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Just if you want to become a Patreon or YouTube member, just look at what you get. Click the. The certain level that you want. There's perks to it all, baby. And you get discounts on merch, which. Speaking of merch, go to sundaycoolswag.com get your ninja merch today. And hopefully you guys came to Florida toward it last week because yesterday.

[Josh]

Super fun.

[Andy]

Yeah, we went to. We were in Tampa last night. And who showed up in Tampa? This. Yes, last night.

[Josh]

My family was there.

[Andy]

Your family was there.

[Lily]

Your wife was there, not your family.

[Josh]

What family, Brian?

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Who else came? There was a celebrity in the back. Remember the celebrity that showed up? Steve O. Steve O Was there. He was there.

[Lily]

And he ate a goldfish on stage.

[Josh]

I do remember. Yeah. I forgot about that.

[Andy]

Yep.

[Josh]

How could you forget about that?

[Andy]

I didn't.

[Josh]

Oh, man.

[Andy]

It's a great time so there's still more. One more chance. You can see us live in Orlando next week on the 16th. It's at 7 o'.

[Josh]

Clock.

[Andy]

It's only 25 a ticket. Come on down.

[Josh]

Our last show probably ever.

[Andy]

No, we're going to do more, Josh. We got to do more. The people want it.

[Josh]

But if it's forever, there's this. Guys have to come to Orlando that.

[Andy]

I mean, this could live legitimately. This could be the last live show we ever do.

[Josh]

This could be.

[Andy]

Josh may never want to do this again. So this could be historic.

[Josh]

That could be.

[Andy]

We're going to build an obelisk there. It's going to be cool. Yeah, it's going to be a lot of fun.

[Josh]

Pope Theo is going to be there.

[Andy]

We're all going to be wearing robes. Everyone has to drink the Kool Aid.

[Josh]

We're going to all. After the show, we're all going to go observe the stars and get matching tattoos.

[Andy]

Josh is going to call in a couple orbs. It's going to be freaking cool.

[Josh]

Guys, guess what? Chris Bledsoe is going to be there Also.

[Andy]

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[Josh]

All right, guys, we love you.

[Andy]

We love you.

[Josh]

See you on Patreon and YouTube membership.

[Alan]

Bye bye. What you're about to see. Wow. May disturb you if any of you know what these multi decade UAP.

[Josh]

Bottle.

[Alan]

Nose fish pigs was.

[Lily]

A massive police response.

[Josh]

Going to do the AIA minister in parliament first. Oh, yeah.