165 - Occult Science, Russian Revival, and Disney’s Hidden Past

Summary

Ninjas Are Butterflies – Episode 165

Occult Science, Russian Revival, and Disney’s Hidden Past
Release Date: October 24, 2025
Hosts: Josh Hooper, Andy DeNoon, Kelsey, Lily

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Episode Overview

In this laughter-packed and conspiracy-tinged episode, the Ninjas Are Butterflies crew weaves together a wide range of outrageous topics. The hosts tackle occult science and the influence of Aleister Crowley, chilling government secrets, a miraculous Russian Orthodox revival, and the strange Nazi connections in Disney’s legacy—with plenty of detours into wild pop culture, bodily functions, food conspiracies, and hilarious personal stories.

While the tone remains lighthearted and comedic throughout, several segments dive deep into bizarre history, speculation about power structures, the reality of spiritual evil, and how conspiracies often thread through pop culture and politics.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Live Show Recap & Florida Tour Antics

Timestamps: 02:08–05:56

• The crew recounts their first live shows, complete with venue disasters, terrifying hotels, suspicious leaks, and the mysterious Ramada hotel "ambiance."
• Memorable Quote:
  “We pulled up and you could tell this is the place where you can buy crack. And we did.” – Josh (03:03)
• Audience travel stories, mishaps with kids, and shoutouts to "Randy" the unforgettable hotel worker.

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2. Immortality Song & Diarrhea

Timestamps: 07:15–11:41

• Josh and Andy perform a comic but surprisingly philosophical song about immortality’s downsides:
  “Now I’m immortal, it feels like a portal, doomed to walk this world constantly.” – (09:58)
• This segues into an existential digression about legacy, diarrhea, and the tragedy of living forever.
  “You diarrhea almost every day.” – Kelsey (11:41)

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3. Debate: Should People Be Allowed to Homeschool?

Timestamps: 12:50–16:58

• A running gag unfolds as the group mock-debates the right to homeschool, culminating in a satirical acronym: "Homeschool stands for Highly Organized Mind Extraction System Creating Hyper Obedient Offspring of Lucifer.” – Josh (16:20)
• The segment playfully exposes the social perceptions around alternative education.

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4. Food Conspiracies: The Restaurant Industrial Complex

Timestamps: 24:32–26:47

• The hosts bemoan the prevalence of mass-distributed (Cisco) foods in restaurants, denouncing the loss of genuine cooking and the illusion of variety.
• Quote:
  “We’re just literally little sheeple running around eating our Cisco food. It’s so sad.” – Kelsey (25:38)
• Lily shares the challenge of food allergies and the excitement when chefs can actually cook from scratch.

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5. Capitol Bathtub, Guy Fieri’s Stolen Tequila, and More Oddities

Timestamps: 26:49–31:28

• Josh dives into the story of the massive marble “Senate Bath” in the Capitol's basement, installed for grimy senators in the 1850s.
• The saga of Guy Fieri's million-dollar tequila heist is recounted, with the hosts noting:
  “If I was Guy Fieri, I’d be leaning into this—tequila so good, the cartel wanted their hands on it!” – Andy (31:15)

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6. Urban Chaos & The Portland Situation

Timestamps: 31:29–36:01

• Gripping discussion on sanctuary cities, the National Guard in Portland, and the alleged information blackout on social media regarding unrest.
  “They’re blocking TikTok from geotagging Portland. It’s just chaos.” – Josh (32:58)
• The increase in drugs, super-fentanyl, and the state’s controversial legalization measures are picked apart.

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7. Geo-Politics: Drugs, China, and Societal Dependency

Timestamps: 38:21–39:54

• The British Empire’s sabotage of China with opium is compared to modern allegations about Chinese fentanyl exports.
• The hosts warn of the power nations hold by controlling food, medicine, or narcotics supply chains.
• “We’re dependent on a lot.” – Lily (39:54)

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8. French Political Turmoil & Government Structures

Timestamps: 40:37–43:09

• The crew comments on the revolving door of French Prime Ministers under Macron, parodying the confusion of parliamentary government.
• Various ideas bounce around about U.S. political equivalents, none ultimately convincing.

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9. Aleister Crowley, Occult Science, and Strange NASA Roots

Timestamps: 65:30–78:00

• Josh explains the horrific, occultic legacy of Aleister Crowley, his invention of esoteric rituals (Enochian language, Thelema), and links to early space science and Scientology.
  “Let me just go on the record and say, Aleister Crowley was the epitome of evil.” – Josh (66:27)
• Lily chimes in with details of Crowley’s “Babylon Working” ritual and its pursuit of Enochian magick, referencing dark ties between occultism, sexuality, and rocket science.
• Parallels are drawn between Crowley’s magic, NASA, and ancient “knowledge exchanges”— echoing biblical fallen angels narratives.

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10. Spiritual Warfare & Tangible Evil

Timestamps: 79:33–82:03

• The group argues that real, spiritual evil is an ever-present force, largely ignored by churches.
• “It’s easy to say evil on earth is just ‘us and our sin’. True. But evil is also a tangible, horrific principality thing.” – Kelsey (79:32)

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11. Miraculous Russian Orthodox Story:

Timestamps: 82:16–89:09

• Josh dramatically recounts how, in 1923 Ukraine, a metal crucifix outside a village began to bleed after being shot by USSR enforcers.
  “By evening, 30,000 Christians had gathered around this cross.” – Josh (86:53)
• The miraculous event prompted conversions, resistance to oppression, and reportedly an invisible force preventing authorities from removing the cross.
• “A Jewish doctor tested it—it was blood.” – Josh (87:45)

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12. Nazis & Disney: Hans Scharff’s Mosaic Secret

Timestamps: 95:10–100:13

• Andy tells how Hans Scharff, a legendary Nazi interrogator known for ‘kind’ techniques, emigrated to the US, influenced the FBI, and was the artist behind the famous Cinderella Castle mosaics at Disney World.
• “So he wasn’t a Nazi, he was a 'nicey.'” – Josh (100:16)

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13. Quick-Fire Riffs and Questions

Timestamps: Throughout

• Highlights include:
  • Debates about scratch–sniff–lick wallpaper vs. landscape windows (60:00–62:28)
  • The perils and poop of Everest expeditions (47:17–51:44)
  • Melania Trump’s “hoo-ya” Navy speech impression (45:41–46:49)
  • Reflections on Les Misérables, arranged marriage, and dangerous prayers (56:11–93:31)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Nazis at the Castle:
  “Literally the whole Cinderella mosaic—his prized piece of art—is by Hans Scharff.” – Andy (99:47)
• On Evil in the World:
  “People forget—we’re fighting against the invisible. The spiritual realm is the primary; we are living in the non-primary.” – Kelsey (80:03)
• Occult Science & History:
  “NASA’s roots are drenched in occult magick...these are the people advancing science!” – Josh (76:29)
• Comedic:
  “I can’t use the bidet in the morning. It’s too cold.” – Josh (05:53)
• On Independence and Food:
  “America, they are trying to poison us!” – Andy (24:32)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Live Show Chaos: 02:08–05:56
• Immortal Song: 07:15–11:41
• Homeschool Debate: 12:50–16:58
• Restaurant/Food Conspiracy: 24:32–26:47
• Bathtub in the Capitol: 26:49–28:49
• Guy Fieri’s Tequila Heist: 29:00–31:28
• Portland/National Guard: 31:29–36:01
• Fentanyl & Drug Discussion: 37:45–39:54
• Aleister Crowley & Occult Science: 65:30–78:00
• Russian Orthodox Miracle: 82:16–89:09
• Disney/Nazi Art Connection: 95:10–100:13

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Overall Tone & Style

• Banter-driven, irreverent, yet sharp on research and connections
• Regular satirical asides and self-referential humor
• Willingness to chase wild tangents, then circle back to thoughtful moments on faith, evil, miracles, and genuine hope

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Final Thoughts

Episode 165 delivers the Ninjas Are Butterflies signature cocktail of wild storytelling, conspiracy deep-dives, historical oddities, and black-humor social commentary. The crew’s rapport—mixing earnest faith, gallows jokes, and sharp pop-culture asides—keeps even the creepiest revelations light enough for a comedic podcast audience, while also provoking reflection about the line between history, myth, and the unseen battles that shape our world.

Transcript

[Andy]

Watch out, Mr. Rogers and Walt Disney, because there's a new artist in town. And guess what? He's a Nazi.

[Josh]

Have you guys heard of Aleister Crowley? Well, hopefully you have him, because we're going to talk about him and all the really creepy rituals that he did that influence our aeronautics and government stuff.

[Lily]

And we're going to talk about a revival, some would say a revolution that was sparked by the supernatural bleeding of an artifact in Russia.

[Kelsey]

This podcast is brought to you Empowered by Sunday. Cool. Watch this or listen. Why are you laughing? Why laughing?

[Josh]

Messed up.

[Kelsey]

Why? How?

[Josh]

Huh? What?

[Kelsey]

I didn't. I said it right.

[Josh]

I can't hear you.

[Lily]

Should I try again?

[Andy]

I'm sorry, what type of.

[Josh]

All right. Oh, my.

[Lily]

Goodness.

[Josh]

What's up, guys? So. So I saw this thing the other day. It said, like, your age and what your heart rate should be at. Like, a healthy heart rate. Yeah, Our age is like 60 to 70 beats per minute. Like, you're resting.

[Andy]

I'm a little younger than you.

[Josh]

Not that much.

[Andy]

Two years.

[Josh]

Oh, that's not a lot.

[Andy]

Okay, so 60 to 70.

[Josh]

60 to 70. Your resting heart rate, I've discovered. And I actually tested it today. I've been taking this thing called Peak Energy. It's by Brain md, which is an awesome company, with supplements.

[Andy]

That's the.

[Kelsey]

Yeah, Dr. Amin.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Josh]

Yeah, I'm testing it. Or I tested it today because I've been like, this seems suspicious. It puts my resting heart rate at over 100 beats a minute.

[Lily]

Ooh, not good.

[Josh]

Get your blood pumping and so really good for your heart, maybe. Oh, now we're at 91.

[Kelsey]

So he stressed.

[Josh]

Yeah. I'm also just anxious about the thing.

[Andy]

Yeah, it's okay. It's okay.

[Josh]

Less anxious, I would say, than last week. Anxious.

[Kelsey]

Yes.

[Andy]

Yeah. So the. So we're a little ahead, guys, because we're trying. We're on Florida Torto, and we just last week had our very first live show.

[Josh]

Like, for real? Because we said that two weeks ago.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Or.

[Andy]

Yeah, whatever.

[Josh]

Whatever. It's getting confusing.

[Andy]

But we just got done with the Tampa show. Tomorrow we have the Jacksonville show, and Tampa went great. A lot of people have fun.

[Josh]

We just did Jacksonville. Tomorrow we're doing Tampa.

[Andy]

Is that what I said?

[Kelsey]

You did the opposite.

[Andy]

Oh, my bad. Yeah. It was great, though.

[Lily]

It was great.

[Andy]

People fly from California, Idaho, Ohio.

[Josh]

People drove from Ohio.

[Andy]

It's great. Crazy.

[Kelsey]

It's nuts.

[Josh]

It was so cool to see everybody at the Ramada.

[Kelsey]

Ramada, which was a very scary hotel. Apologies.

[Josh]

Yeah, apologies, everyone that came. We Pulled up and you could tell this is the place where you can buy crack.

[Andy]

And we did.

[Kelsey]

Just to prove it, everybody that went, let us know that you got home safe.

[Josh]

Yeah, please.

[Andy]

There's like 30 people missing.

[Kelsey]

Oh, gosh.

[Josh]

Can you turn that light on behind you?

[Kelsey]

It's too bright already.

[Andy]

Wait, think of an idea.

[Josh]

Ambiance.

[Andy]

Think of an idea.

[Kelsey]

Eureka.

[Josh]

I think the idea is, how do I turn on this light?

[Andy]

Topeka.

[Kelsey]

I was looking for a knob.

[Josh]

But yeah, it was fun.

[Andy]

It was a blast. It was a great first show ever because so many things went wacky and were wacky.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

And you know, we had a hard time setting up all the audio. We had a leak dropping onto the couch.

[Josh]

Literal hole in the roof. When it was because it rained super hard. And it was just going right where.

[Andy]

Me and Tim were sitting. There was a microphone that was wet.

[Kelsey]

Ew.

[Andy]

You know, it was just like, we're going to get electrocuted or get a virus or something.

[Lily]

Like, what are the chances that this happened? Then you look up at the ceiling and you're like, pretty high. It's been going on for a while.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Kelsey]

I will say that I was so on edge. I'm so paranoid. I was so on edge about the condition of that hotel. And we brought our children, which definitely was an exception to a rule. They do not let children into that.

[Josh]

Yeah, that seems. I mean, there was a sign there. It said 21 and over.

[Andy]

Yeah, I think it's just for. I don't know, certain shows, I think. I don't know.

[Kelsey]

But yeah, this guy comes up to me and he's like, they can't be jumping over stuff. And what's it called? I'm like, everybody sit close to me. And then I have say. I'm like, kelsey, Kelsey, don't let them out of your sight. They're going to get stolen.

[Andy]

The Ramada Portal, dude.

[Josh]

But Randy, shout out.

[Lily]

Randy, shout out.

[Josh]

Ramada. He works at the Ramada.

[Andy]

Funniest guy there.

[Josh]

Such a nice guy.

[Andy]

Yeah, he hooked us up.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Got us in, got us out. Randy, you puked in the courtyard a bit.

[Josh]

I did, yeah.

[Andy]

Which was the most casual throw up I've ever seen from you.

[Kelsey]

He can boot and rally.

[Andy]

Boot and rally, dude. I boot and rally, but I'm loud about it.

[Kelsey]

I know, Me too.

[Andy]

And then I could just come right back in. Just.

[Kelsey]

Josh will. Sometimes he'll just go pee with the door open and then I'll hear a little bloop and I'm like, did you just puke? He's like. Yep. Literally just like a baby bird.

[Andy]

Just zip it up.

[Josh]

It's a disease, everyone.

[Andy]

And then you turn on your tushy to wash out your mouth.

[Josh]

Should we show the clip of me getting the tushy?

[Lily]

Yes.

[Andy]

Here it is.

[Josh]

Yeah. So I listen.

[Andy]

Wait, you gotta hear it. There it is.

[Lily]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Andy]

Got him in the face.

[Josh]

Tushy. Who was our sponsor a week or two ago.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

They sent us some bidets.

[Kelsey]

Yes.

[Josh]

Awesome.

[Andy]

Now my girls only poop in our bathroom.

[Kelsey]

Nice.

[Andy]

Yeah. Love it so much.

[Kelsey]

The girls like it.

[Andy]

Zola for sure likes it.

[Kelsey]

But they do.

[Andy]

She's like, it's cold.

[Josh]

It is cold. That's hard thing to get used to.

[Andy]

Wakes you up, man.

[Josh]

I can't use it in the morning. Yeah. Too cold.

[Lily]

I wonder if you could plummet into the hot water.

[Josh]

I bet you could. Scalding.

[Andy]

Go to the hospital. I have three degree burns. Okay. Where it doesn't look like it. Yeah, well, that's why I'm standing in your room.

[Kelsey]

I thought you guys are going to fight over it. Why didn't you want one at all?

[Lily]

I've used. I've used one before. And while I'm sure that that product is amazing. We were on our honeymoon. We were in Hawaii and I was. There was one in our. Our room. And I like just was so shocked by the aim and the temperature. And I was like, that's. That's enough of that experience for me.

[Josh]

Question. Do you use toilet paper after to dry off your butt?

[Kelsey]

When thousand.

[Andy]

I shake like a dog.

[Kelsey]

Really?

[Andy]

But shake like a dog. No.

[Lily]

Of course.

[Andy]

You use a little bit of toilet paper. Yeah, you got to.

[Kelsey]

Well, you got to make sure the poop is gone too.

[Lily]

I thought I had a fan.

[Andy]

Tushy. They have one that has a little air dryer thing.

[Josh]

Then we got the base model.

[Lily]

Gotcha.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Which I love.

[Josh]

It's pretty nice.

[Andy]

Super easy install. And we're not.

[Lily]

They're not. Yeah. What do we do?

[Andy]

They're not the sponsor of this episode. But it was actually super easy to install.

[Josh]

Yeah, it was. Speaking of.

[Kelsey]

And their marketing was really cool. That's all. That's all.

[Andy]

Dude, they're manual. We need to do that.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Sunday cool needs. We need to look at that and study how they. Every line was funny.

[Josh]

Yeah. Everything they did super funny.

[Andy]

So good.

[Josh]

Speaking of super funny. Do you want a song, my lady?

[Kelsey]

Yes.

[Josh]

All right.

[Andy]

Whoa. Hello? Hello? Someone in here? Hello.

[Josh]

Look out below.

[Andy]

I remember. I remember the moment. How could I ever forget it? The first time? Next time I'm just never met.

[Lily]

I cut you guys a lot. I cut you guys off all the time. Because I have no idea what you're referencing.

[Andy]

Yeah, we had to get to the drums.

[Josh]

Oh.

[Andy]

Oh, that sounds good, Daddy.

[Josh]

Let's see how this goes. Life's too short that's what they say Take this pill Wrinkles go away they put this chip right in my brain now this feeling I can't explain can't.

[Andy]

Explain Time taps my shoulder But I can't turn around Turn around I try.

[Josh]

To leave but I feel I am.

[Andy]

Bound Held death's hand but he let.

[Josh]

Me go Felt unsure but now I know Now I'm immortal It feels like a portal Doomed to walk this world constantly Night I was clever that now I'm living forever Tell me this won't be eternity Eternity should have known it had side effects Side effects Just sign the papers but it didn't check didn't check My ears have drooped down to the floor to the floor had only two hands but now I have more I have more My carpets grew twice their size Twice their size now my kneecaps have their own eyes My body's ruined Filled with regret with regret the simple fact I can't forget.

[Andy]

Now I'm.

[Josh]

Immortal It feels like a portal Doomed to walk this world constantly I thought I was clever Now I'm living forever Tell me this won't be eternity Eternity oh, eternity.

[Andy]

Wow.

[Kelsey]

That was awesome.

[Josh]

Wow.

[Kelsey]

You guys killed it. Wow.

[Josh]

Wow. Wow.

[Kelsey]

Wow.

[Josh]

I'm proud of you. I'm proud of you, boy.

[Andy]

It's the ghost of my father.

[Josh]

I'm proud of you. I'm proud of you guys.

[Kelsey]

Very good.

[Josh]

Thanks.

[Lily]

Thanks.

[Kelsey]

Thank you. Why are you guys concerned about immortality?

[Andy]

Because, I mean, you just watch all your friends and family and all the loved ones die before you, and you just have to. You're. You're just destined to roam this world forever. Alone. And knowing that you don't age, you don't have the privilege of growing old and making those memories and leaving a legacy, you know?

[Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Legacy.

[Andy]

Also, the amount of times you have diarrhea.

[Kelsey]

Too many.

[Lily]

I would.

[Josh]

I would.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

I would rather die. I Diarrhea today.

[Andy]

Nice.

[Kelsey]

You diarrhea almost every day.

[Josh]

Every day it's anxiousness.

[Andy]

But at least you're gonna die a re. Man. A real man.

[Josh]

I'm gonna d. Oh, gosh. We have fun.

[Andy]

I think that's great. I'm so much. Thanks for everyone, for watching.

[Josh]

I'm used to the echo now.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Cadence. You're waiting to Hear the tale.

[Andy]

We first. Were the first podcast to just have a constant echo.

[Lily]

Be terrible.

[Josh]

Oh, you know what else would be terrible is if everyone just. Let's just be quiet, okay? There's a. There's just so much happening. I got a lot of stuff to talk about. We're talking about the Pope, talking about government.

[Andy]

Nazis.

[Josh]

Nazis. A lot of stuff. But what we don't talk about enough is their children.

[Andy]

I'd agree with that.

[Josh]

And I'm. I'm happy that the A fan. A viewer sent in this question. Right. Because this question, I really think will help us move forward toward the future.

[Andy]

And guess what? Children are our future.

[Josh]

Yes, they are. Thank you, Andy. So today's question, sent by a viewer. Should people be allowed to homeschool their kids?

[Andy]

No.

[Kelsey]

No.

[Josh]

Let me ask. Let me say it one more time.

[Andy]

Is that it? Is there more?

[Josh]

Yeah. No. Should people be allowed. Okay. Allowed to homeschool their kids?

[Andy]

Allowed.

[Josh]

Allowed. Yes.

[Andy]

No.

[Josh]

Wow.

[Andy]

I feel like that's a cut and dry question.

[Lily]

Feel like I can speak into it now.

[Kelsey]

All right, Lil, I know this is a trap.

[Andy]

What are you talking. This is a simple question. I mean, it could not be more obvious.

[Kelsey]

Andy himself homeschools his kids.

[Andy]

Well, first of all, I don't.

[Kelsey]

Andrew is a homeschooled kid, and I know that they answered differently, so I'm gonna say no.

[Andy]

I'm gonna say no.

[Kelsey]

I'm going with.

[Andy]

Interesting.

[Josh]

Well, I'm disappointed in each and every one of you.

[Andy]

Why will I take it back then? I say yes. I say yes, Angie, yes. She says no.

[Lily]

I was confused.

[Andy]

She says no.

[Josh]

Now I say yes.

[Andy]

You say yes. You heard it from her.

[Josh]

No. Everyone, stop. Stop.

[Kelsey]

Got you, Josh.

[Andy]

You said yes.

[Josh]

Everyone just shut up.

[Kelsey]

You can be mad, but you can't be mean.

[Josh]

I am going to be mean because you guys are treating this like it's a big fat joke. We're not. Yes, you are.

[Lily]

We're not. What's a.

[Andy]

What am I done? No, stop.

[Josh]

I need serious answers. I'm not. I'm done playing around. I'm done horsing around.

[Andy]

Okay, fine.

[Josh]

These are kids.

[Lily]

Guys.

[Kelsey]

What on earth.

[Josh]

These are our kids. Lily. Is it a yes or no? Should parents be allowed to homeschool their children?

[Andy]

This on the record.

[Josh]

This is on the record.

[Kelsey]

Yes, they should be allowed to homeschool their children.

[Josh]

Oh, my gosh.

[Andy]

I'm sorry, Josh. I misunderstood the question.

[Josh]

Lily, you said no.

[Andy]

Yeah. Do you.

[Josh]

Do you want to stand by it, or you want to joke around a little bit more?

[Andy]

Andy, I want to stand by it. I'm sorry. I was trying to make a joke right. Earlier, but I don't think it's funny to joke about anymore. I realize.

[Josh]

No, yeah. And thank you. I really. I appreciate that apology.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Kelsey]

Lily wish of graciousness toward me.

[Josh]

You hold on. Why don't you click your little. Your seat belt in? Buckle up, buttercup. Because what you just said hurts. What you just said is why this country is going downhill. Because obviously homeschool stands for highly organized mind extraction system creating hyper obedient offspring of Lucifer.

[Kelsey]

Jeez op.

[Lily]

Jeez op.

[Josh]

You're telling me.

[Andy]

I. I'm really upset right now. I. Well, not only because I did. I just disrespected this segment, but I also just. I don't know. I just. I trusted Lily around my kids.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Like, I. I've trusted her.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

I literally feel like I can hear children crying all around the world.

[Lily]

Yeah. She said she knew I was homeschooled. And she's okay with that?

[Josh]

Yep, she's okay with that. And she's okay with your wife homeschooling your children, which she does not do.

[Andy]

I have to leave. I have to go make sure they're okay. I feel like.

[Josh]

Yeah, you should. You should. Andy. Shame on you, Lil. Well, I guess you guys heard here first. Lily's completely okay with a highly organized mind extraction system creating hyper obedient offspring of Lucifer.

[Lily]

Yuck.

[Josh]

I'm sad and he's sad.

[Lily]

He's calling.

[Josh]

Who are you calling?

[Andy]

Babe, where are the kids? What do you mean? They're gone?

[Josh]

Welcome to the show. Did I say ninja? I meant butterfly. The butterfly is no doubt one of God's most beautiful.

[Lily]

Has to empty your mind.

[Andy]

You were martial arts ninjas Attack. Josh, the holidays are right around the corner.

[Josh]

I know it, and I'm terrified.

[Andy]

What? Why?

[Josh]

Because I have so much Christmas shopping to do and I don't know what. Where to get it.

[Andy]

Well, Josh, getting overwhelmed by gift shopping is very common.

[Lily]

I know.

[Andy]

That's why you should shop at Uncommon Goods.

[Josh]

Did you just make that up?

[Andy]

No way. UncommonGoods.com they make holiday shopping stress free and actually joyful.

[Josh]

Joyful? In this economy? How could they do that?

[Andy]

Well, they have thousands of one of a kind gifts that you can't find anywhere else. They're high quality, they're often handmade and.

[Josh]

Made in the US sure, but I don't want to support big companies.

[Andy]

Good, because many of the products are crafted by independent artists and small businesses. Josh, that sounds great, but.

[Josh]

But.

[Andy]

But the thing is, they are made in small batches, so the best of the best finds. Guess what? Those products, they sell out faster than ever.

[Josh]

Well, I better get on it then. Wow, they have tons of stuff.

[Andy]

Told ya.

[Josh]

Stuff for moms, dads, history buffs, book lovers, football fans, foodies. Literally everything.

[Andy]

And I also heard with every purchase Uncommon Goods, they give back $1 to a nonprofit of your choosing. I mean, they've donated over $3 million.

[Josh]

That's a lot of dollars.

[Andy]

It sure is. So shop early, have fun, and cross some names off your list today. To get 15% off your next gift, go to uncommongs.comninjas. that's uncommongs.comninjas for 15 off. Don't miss out on this limited time offer.

[Josh]

Uncommon Goods. We're all out of the ordinary. Wink.

[Andy]

With their friend named Lucy.

[Josh]

Oh, Andy.

[Andy]

Oh, Lucy's fine.

[Kelsey]

Oh, my gosh.

[Andy]

Hey, we made it.

[Josh]

Yeah, now that we're.

[Kelsey]

You did it. Not really.

[Josh]

Now that we're 20 minutes into the episode.

[Lily]

20 minutes?

[Josh]

I think. Was that the longest we've ever done a question?

[Andy]

Probably.

[Kelsey]

Yeah, I could tell.

[Andy]

But I mean, people love it, so that's why we keep out here setting records.

[Kelsey]

I will say so. You guys, it's part of the live episode. You guys, like gaslit this poor lady.

[Lily]

That was awesome.

[Kelsey]

People were laughing. A lot of people were laughing. Some women were going, oh. Oh, man.

[Josh]

That was a really.

[Andy]

Be nice to her.

[Lily]

Hey, the. The husband took it further than we did.

[Kelsey]

Yeah, true.

[Andy]

They're hilarious. They were married for how long? 25 years.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Long enough to take a joke. Long enough to take a joke.

[Andy]

So cool. Yeah, we were roasting them all night. Yeah, it was a wonderful thing.

[Josh]

Yeah. We gifted them a bag of La Marzulli literature.

[Andy]

A 50 pound bag.

[Kelsey]

You guys should have gotten them a real gift also.

[Josh]

What?

[Lily]

What?

[Kelsey]

I mean, something.

[Andy]

I think we give them some free stuff.

[Kelsey]

Oh, okay.

[Andy]

I think so.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Kelsey]

And also those. That's a fantastic.

[Josh]

We kept some of Elliot Marzui's stuff.

[Kelsey]

Nice.

[Andy]

We want to share the wealth, share the knowledge.

[Josh]

Knowledge, knowledge. But I did give her all the DVDs because no one owns a DVD player.

[Kelsey]

Nice.

[Andy]

If you own the PlayStation console. I actually Xbox you can.

[Lily]

I realized my Jeep has a label that says dvd. And now I'm curious if my center console is a DVD player. And I never knew it.

[Josh]

That'd be crazy.

[Andy]

Be the coolest thing.

[Lily]

Yeah. We need a DVD. I need to try it out.

[Josh]

Speaking of DVDs, did you guys hear about the Pope and pizza.

[Lily]

I did.

[Kelsey]

What kind of pizza?

[Josh]

Suspicious Chicago pizza. It's actually pretty awesome.

[Andy]

What do you mean?

[Josh]

Hilarious?

[Andy]

Because he's from Chicago.

[Josh]

Yep. He was at the Vatican. And golly. I don't even know how you say this pizza place. Areo's.

[Lily]

Sure.

[Josh]

There's someone that was holding up a sign that said, we have Aurello's pizza or Ario's cheese.

[Andy]

Someone waiting in the crowd outside the. Waiting for the Pope.

[Josh]

They brought a pizza from Chicago.

[Lily]

No way.

[Josh]

He stopped the motorcade thing. He said, hey, bring me down there. Grabbed the pizza. The bodyguard's like, hey, I wouldn't. And so they took it, and they're like, I. I don't know what they call them. Father Hope.

[Lily]

Yep.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

We really suggest that you do not eat this. And he's like, I love this pizza. He went back to his little apartment.

[Andy]

No.

[Josh]

Heated up the pizza and ate the pizza.

[Andy]

No way.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

What a cool pope.

[Josh]

That's what I'm saying.

[Andy]

Coolest pope ever.

[Kelsey]

He has said some cool things.

[Josh]

He has said some cool, cool things. Yeah.

[Andy]

Like what?

[Josh]

He said the pro life thing. Have you seen that? He said, those who are saying that they're pro, pro life, anti abortion, but they're pro death penalty. I don't think they're pro life.

[Andy]

Yeah. That's interesting. I said it's very interesting. I've heard a lot of arguments for capital punishment on both sides, but I'm glad I'm not the guy that's making those calls, because that's a heavy decision.

[Lily]

I was about to say, are we about to go there? That's. No.

[Andy]

That's.

[Josh]

No, we're not going.

[Lily]

I was like, dang.

[Andy]

But I think it's hilarious.

[Kelsey]

He also commented on immigration, too, which I thought was cool. Just like. And also the dehumanization of people, even if they're immigrants. That's not pro life either.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Brown people are less human.

[Josh]

Stop it.

[Andy]

Hey, you know, if you're just on my back.

[Lily]

If you're just a listener.

[Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Forever.

[Kelsey]

Who's listening?

[Andy]

Andrew's racist.

[Kelsey]

Guess what skin color Andrew has.

[Andy]

I think it's hilarious that they wouldn't, like, want him to eat the pizza, but it's like, you know how many babies that dude's kissed?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Those little babies are germ blobs, dude.

[Josh]

Yeah, dude.

[Andy]

I mean, that's probably more dangerous. Yeah, that's hilarious, though.

[Josh]

Probably dangerous. More dangerous for the children.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Spreading germs. Those little babies.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Moving on.

[Andy]

I just imagine a person also getting a pizza on for a carry on or something. I know, because that's. That's crazy commitment.

[Josh]

I did see a TikTok where this mother and daughter took a trip to Italy and they asked the dad, do you want anything from Italy? He said, a pizza. And they literally flew back with a pizza.

[Andy]

Wow, that's the coolest.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Best family. See, I've heard recently that the food in Italy stinks.

[Josh]

Really?

[Andy]

And that's literally my number one thing why I want to go to Italy is for the food.

[Lily]

Are you sure?

[Andy]

Yes.

[Kelsey]

I can't.

[Andy]

I literally was like. There was just this travel vlogger that was going in Italy and all the comments were like, went, food was terrible.

[Josh]

Probably because it's not full of like sugar.

[Lily]

Sugar, right.

[Josh]

Sugar and processed stuff.

[Andy]

You almost have to like, probably fast from a lot of things when you're traveling from when you're going to travel overseas. Just so you're like, you can have a clean palette.

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kelsey]

I think what's interesting too about like flour and all that stuff in. In Italy is that a lot of people that are gluten sensitive can eat pasta and all that stuff because of the way that they manufacture their flour or just like, it's just more natural and so they don't have like a reaction to it.

[Andy]

Yeah, there's a cost of freedom. I love America, but golly, they are trying to poison us.

[Kelsey]

So somebody's doing a series right now on. They went to like all the restaurants in like different states and it's all Cisco, bro. And it's like, who can cook the best Cisco? And it's like, it all tastes the same. Capitalism is a lie. We're being fed the same thing or paying higher prices in some places.

[Andy]

And how they literally just consumed every smaller brand or district food distributor. It's crazy awful.

[Josh]

You know the restaurants doing the Cisco thing, that's more of like a communist socialist kind of thing where it's like you have like the same company making the same food distributed to every restaurant and store.

[Andy]

Yeah, I saw that. And I literally said, I'm like, if. They'd probably be like people, a lot of people would be confused on it. But if a president were to come out and say, you know what, we're getting rid of this. We're not doing this anymore. I think that would be a genius idea. Well, yeah, start making like, you have to have more options. There can't be the same thing.

[Kelsey]

They've totally dismantled our infrastructure, though. We'd have to mom and pop. Farmers have got to just Prevail. I mean, persevere. And it gives us this, like, false sense of variety. I mean, we're just literally just little sheeple running around eating our Cisco food. It's so sad.

[Andy]

And we have no idea what it is, so we don't like. It would be nice. But every restaurant should be required to say where that food came from.

[Kelsey]

Yes.

[Andy]

Because especially when it comes from, like, a frozen distributor like that.

[Kelsey]

Yeah, dude.

[Lily]

So I have that. You know, I have a dairy allergy. So whenever we go to a restaurant, it's, like, so exciting when I. I always. I don't like being difficult. I'm not a picky eater. So I'll always say, like, this is my allergy. Whatever you have to do to the dish, you know, if you want to make changes, feel free. And when a chef is actually a chef and isn't, like, thawing frozen sauce or whatever, they get excited, and I'll. You know, like, we ate at 1921, and they had to make changes, and it came back like, bomb. It was so freaking good. But then we've been to, like, restaurants where it's like, $80 a plate, like, for an anniversary, and they're like, so they'll actually come out and tell me. They're like, it actually comes made, so we can't make any changes. And I got like, a literally salt and pepper chicken breast that was just like, not even oiled. It was just, like, straight out the oven.

[Kelsey]

So.

[Lily]

But, like, if you're wondering, you know, is this restaurant, is the chef worth his salt? Just make a change to the. To the order and see if you can do it.

[Kelsey]

Nice.

[Josh]

Speaking of government.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Changing things.

[Lily]

Yep.

[Josh]

So I was TikTok the other day of these people getting a tour of the Capitol building in Washington, D.C. and they went down to the basement level, and there's a room called the Senate bath, and there's literally a bathtub. One bathtub is one very creepy.

[Kelsey]

Why?

[Lily]

Why?

[Josh]

I looked into it because I'm like.

[Andy]

Is it from Taft? Not stuck in the bathtub, Apparently.

[Josh]

No. It's a very interesting story. I was just throwing off my. Why is there a bathtub in the Capitol building? Why is it called the Senate bathtub? This grand, like, huge marble bathtub.

[Andy]

Cool.

[Josh]

But the origin of it, it was the mid-1850s after indoor plumbing was installed in the Capitol. Several luxury bathing rooms were added just off the Senate chamber. At the time, Washington, D.C. was still swampy and dirty. What's changed in the most, in most boarding houses, where Senator State had no running Water or bathing facilities. So the Capitol, they put in a bunch of bathtubs in the Capitol building. And so these senators, before hearings and stuff, they would go and take baths.

[Andy]

Wild.

[Kelsey]

Wow.

[Andy]

That's insane.

[Josh]

Yeah. And then after, like, modern plumbing and all that stuff, they got rid of all the bathtubs. But they kept one.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And it is marble stone, or single block of Italian marble. Imported. And it's five and a half feet long, two and a half feet wide and two feet deep.

[Andy]

Perfect for you. Five and a half feet.

[Josh]

Look at that.

[Andy]

Oh, it's not as cool as I thought it would be. No, but still, it's pretty neat.

[Josh]

It's from 1850.

[Andy]

Yeah. That's awesome.

[Josh]

But it's creepy when they showed it because it's like, kind of like off a dark little corridor. You're like, why is there a bathtub in there?

[Andy]

Candlelit bathtub. Back in the day, in the middle of a Capitol building.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

That's wild. I just found something on my bucket list. Now.

[Josh]

Take a bath to the Capitol building. Yes, absolutely.

[Andy]

Just bring my own water.

[Josh]

Yeah. Speaking of bringing your own water.

[Andy]

Don't say it.

[Josh]

Do you hear what happened to Guy Fieri?

[Andy]

He broke his water. What?

[Josh]

So, Guy Fieri. Fieri. Fieri.

[Andy]

Fieri.

[Josh]

Guy Fieri, yeah. Owns a tequila company.

[Kelsey]

I didn't know that.

[Andy]

And he has his own cigars, too.

[Josh]

Oh, very cool.

[Kelsey]

And his own hair gel.

[Josh]

Well, he just had.

[Kelsey]

I'm just kidding.

[Josh]

Two truckloads of his tequila stolen.

[Andy]

Whoa. What?

[Josh]

Worth $1 million?

[Andy]

That's loco, dude. That's. Where did this happen?

[Josh]

It's crazy. This happened not long ago, a couple weeks ago.

[Andy]

Where, though? Oh, you know, was.

[Josh]

Tequila's made in Mexico.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Josh]

And what? Apparently, it's like cartel members or something they've been messing with. They've been making fake truck companies and then telling truck drivers where to go to unload stuff and so they'll get warehouses.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And they told the truck drivers were completely unaware of this. They're supposed to go to, like, the Midwest or something with these two trucks of tequila. But they got a call from the truck company, which was ran by apparently, the cartel, and said, actually, these are actually going to Los Angeles.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

So they went to Los Angeles, unloaded everything, Everything disappeared. The warehouse, I think, is, like, now empty.

[Andy]

Oh, my goodness.

[Josh]

A million dollars of Guy Fieri's tequila. That's a stolen.

[Andy]

That's a lot of drink, dude.

[Kelsey]

Do you remember when our truck full of heather orange got stolen?

[Andy]

When was that?

[Kelsey]

At the Mexican border. It was 2017, 2019. They stole an entire truckload of heather orange. We had no heather orange for the summer.

[Josh]

Oh, wow.

[Kelsey]

I bet there's a Mexican ward.

[Andy]

A lot of comfy cartel members, though, dude.

[Kelsey]

Super soft tees.

[Andy]

They do. They just have their. Their. Their gang logos.

[Kelsey]

The cartel logos on it has a cool private label in there.

[Andy]

Kind of like that Toyota guy that sells Toyota. And it had like an ISIS bought it and then it had. But it had his logo for his local company.

[Lily]

Like a.

[Josh]

Like a plumber AC company.

[Kelsey]

That is so funny.

[Josh]

So funny.

[Andy]

Dude, I'm not gonna lie. If I was Guy Fieri, I would literally be leaning into this. Oh, yeah, like tequila. So good. Cartel. One of their hands.

[Kelsey]

Oh, 1,000.

[Andy]

I mean, like, just make, like, just make commercials out of it. Merch out of it. I mean, that would be. I mean, it couldn't have happened to a nicer guy, but golly, dude, cartel approved.

[Kelsey]

Yeah, literally.

[Andy]

That's crazy.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

I can't believe that stuff still happens.

[Kelsey]

I was just listening to a video about that. How, like, Trump has declared war on drug cartels and all of these sanctuary cities. He's putting the National Garden and people are freaking out. They're like, they're. We're being policed, but it's like a lot of the local residents are saying, we feel infinitely safer. Oh, because of the National Guard being here.

[Josh]

What's happening?

[Lily]

Portland?

[Kelsey]

Yeah, dude, what happened?

[Andy]

Porn.

[Josh]

Because they just put the National Guard in Portland.

[Andy]

Really?

[Josh]

Like how they do dc.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Josh]

But the riots are crazy because of the National Guard, like, antifa and stuff.

[Andy]

Oh, no.

[Kelsey]

Well, they're technically a sanctuary city, but that's an unconstitutional. Whatever. That's not a thing. A sanctuary city.

[Josh]

It's just words.

[Kelsey]

It's just words. They're like, yeah, you can come stay here and we'll protect you from ice.

[Andy]

So it's not a federal thing?

[Kelsey]

It's not a federal thing.

[Andy]

State or city thing.

[Kelsey]

Right. Because the new immigration laws are federal. And so, I mean, the executive branch goes. It's our job to execute this whether we agree or disagree. And if you're getting in the way of that, then you will be an officer. Exactly. Yeah.

[Josh]

But apparently now, I don't know if it was in Portland or Chicago, but police officers are now, like, going up against the National Guard. Like, they're having, like, issues like fighting and, like, she's just chaos. But in Portland. This is a little creepy. The people were talking about on TikTok. I don't know if. Because you've probably Barely seen anything on TikTok about Portland. I haven't seen anything because they're blocking it.

[Andy]

Really.

[Josh]

And they're actually tick tock removed the geolocation of Portland to where? You can't say, like, I'm at Portland, bro. So the geolocation of Portland has been taken off of TikTok. I don't know about Instagram, but like they're, it's like trying to be hidden of like the chaos because I mean.

[Kelsey]

Their response is so spiritual. Spooky. The mayor of Portland made a video where she went out and she walked down the street and she's like, see, it's so beautiful here and we are just such a wonderful little hippie dippy city or whatever. And they posted that and then this other guy went on and he was walking the streets and it's just, it's these kids on fentanyl, like zombified all over the place and. Yeah, I mean, it's a crapshoot.

[Andy]

Yeah, it's getting terrible, dude.

[Josh]

Well, I know we've talked about it a long time ago, probably two years ago, but the homeless population in Portland is started because of that cult in Oregon. Remember that documentary on Netflix with Wild, Wild Country? Yeah, yeah. How like all those hippies and stuff that were mentally unstable joined this cult and they're like, oh, we gotta get them out of here, they're causing too much trouble. So they literally put them on buses, drove them to Portland, said, okay, get off. And that's where the homeless population started growing in Portland.

[Andy]

Gosh, man, it's crazy. It's crazy. It's. I mean the drug use of there, because there's no restrictions on it, it just is nuts. And now they have like this.

[Lily]

Wait, really?

[Andy]

Like the super limited restrictions? Yeah, like, yeah, like mushrooms, lsd, like all this stuff, like it's just all.

[Josh]

Legalized dmt, like all this crazy stuff.

[Lily]

So that's. I didn't realize that. I mean I knew like some of it was state, but I didn't realize there weren't like general federal like restrictions.

[Josh]

No, and I, I think there is.

[Andy]

Federal, but it's just not being policed. Like, it's just.

[Lily]

Gotcha.

[Andy]

I mean it's just like, I mean anything that's a federal ban, but the states have their own decisions. But if you get caught by a federal agent or you know, outside of the state, then you're busted.

[Kelsey]

It was a fake news. Or was it true that in Oregon they were also trying to legalize that you could have like a small possession of heroin?

[Josh]

Yes.

[Andy]

No, it's true.

[Kelsey]

Like, yeah.

[Josh]

And they get.

[Kelsey]

And they're doing that thing which I mean like, I guess you could understand to some degree if you're like in it. But they're like handing out. You can ask for clean needles and all this stuff and like, I guess that's, that is obviously helpful if they're going to be doing it with.

[Josh]

But it's like the wrong way approach.

[Kelsey]

Let's, let's try something different. Please. I want these people to be healthy, but like in another way.

[Andy]

Dude, I saw a video of. I don't know if it was in Portland or what, but there was this guy. They were just fighting all the SWAT members or I don't know if it was ice or swat. Who knows nowadays? But this guy was in an inflatable.

[Josh]

Oh yeah, you see that?

[Andy]

The guy was like in a big green inflatable costume. And the guy had. The police officer had tear gas.

[Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Andy]

And goes over to the vent.

[Kelsey]

Oh.

[Andy]

And sprays the tear gas inside the vent.

[Josh]

It's like, come on.

[Andy]

I mean that's crazy.

[Josh]

That's pretty smart. That's a high iq.

[Lily]

Very smart.

[Andy]

But golly, could you imagine the like the torture because it's all condensed and like you're just contained in there.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Kelsey]

I thought that tear gas was, was criminalized by the Geneva Convention.

[Josh]

No, no.

[Kelsey]

Oh no.

[Andy]

It's a non lethal way.

[Josh]

Mustard gases.

[Kelsey]

Okay.

[Josh]

That's what mustard mostly.

[Lily]

See, but we're, we're focused on, you know, going back to the conversation about like what's coming over the Mexican border. Like I think we forget how many other nations are using that same exact border to do stuff. Did you see what Sean Ryan posted? The interview he did with a guy dealing with like the drugs that just are ahead of the fda?

[Josh]

No.

[Lily]

So he went, he went and did his interview with Sean Ryan and he went to like a handful of gas stations and I guess out of China. What's the. You see these little pop up. It's like Kratom or Kratom.

[Josh]

Oh yeah, Kratom.

[Lily]

But, but they, there are some variants where they basically are creating opiate level like stuff that you can just buy from wherever. He was like, he was like, this is, he was like, this is, this will be illegal soon. He was like, but the amount of gang affiliations in China, people to pay off their debts are then taken to Mexico, pulled across the border. And then he personally said he was only speaking from his own experience. He's going and like putting eyes on these sites but they're going up to, like, Maine to, like, import into New York. But all these people, they're human. They're trafficked people paying off debts to gangs, and they're moved here. They can't leave premises. So these aren't people like you're seeing in public spaces. They're literally just in warehouses and these illegal grow operations, but tied to businesses that are kind of washed several times over. And then it's all those little sketchy, like, little things you can buy from all these sketchy little gas station dives and stuff. And so the. The issue is far beyond, like, you know, just a border or just a nation. It's. It's pretty systemic.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Kelsey]

That's horrifying.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Kelsey]

Come back.

[Andy]

You guys hear about that super fentanyl that's going around?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Kelsey]

I think we talked.

[Andy]

Hundred times more potent than regular fentanyl. Crazy.

[Kelsey]

When will it end?

[Andy]

I know. And it's like, you can't trust anything. You see all those people that accidentally get whiffs. I'm like, we just. I don't know why we don't have Narcan everywhere we go now.

[Kelsey]

You can buy it at your pharmacy.

[Andy]

You can buy it on Amazon. But I'm just saying, like, why don't we have it in the office, in our cars, in our houses? And it's scary that we have to have that, but it's like, I can't imagine, like, someone just walking through the street and you pick something up or. I don't know, man.

[Josh]

It makes you wonder because I don't know who. What politician was saying this, but, like, how China is the one smuggling fentanyl into the US or they're a part of it.

[Lily]

I've heard that.

[Josh]

But it's interesting because I saw a video like, yesterday about how the British Empire, how they were able to basically take over China is because China was like, the richest empire in the world at the time. And the British Empire came, had a real hard time getting in there. And what they basically did is they got China addicted to opium.

[Kelsey]

Yeah. Literally. So they started dens.

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah. They started growing opium in China and just like, distributing it. They got highly addicted and just, like, caused the economy just to go, bro. So it's like. So you almost wonder if they're.

[Kelsey]

I know.

[Andy]

Well, that's. That's what's happening. Like, people are cat. Like, they're going through now through Canada, that they're going through Mexico, and they're literally bringing in fentanyl from. From China. And now it's Just like. It's that. I can't remember what podcast we were listening to, but it was just. China's playing the long game.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

You get enough people addicted enough over time, it's gonna cause all these problems. And we see it. Dude, there's like that epidemic within Philadelphia, within Portland, all these places.

[Josh]

Dude, China is playing the long game in a lot of ways.

[Lily]

That's. That's the thing. It's not. It's not just drugs. It's any substance that a culture is dependent on. People in Hawaii always talk about they are so dependent on the cargo ships bringing food. But, like, think about just where we live. If the grocery stores go down.

[Josh]

Yeah, we're.

[Lily]

We're screwed. We are dependent on. And, like, who owns all these fields where, like, crops are being grown? I mean, a lot of times it is places like that, but you know, you want to. You love hating on Bill Gates and, like, the farmland he's bought up. But, like, think about the power that's owned by owning the places that we grow crops and, like, the. The pesticide and all that sort of stuff. We aren't dependent upon ourselves. We're dependent on a lot.

[Andy]

You hear all the stuff that's coming across the Canadian border.

[Josh]

No.

[Andy]

Canadians.

[Lily]

Gosh.

[Josh]

At least are polite.

[Kelsey]

I love Canadians, dude.

[Andy]

I don't.

[Lily]

Thank you.

[Andy]

Makes me sick.

[Kelsey]

Are you Canadian?

[Lily]

Small percent. French Canadian. Yeah.

[Josh]

Two words.

[Andy]

I'm getting. I'm getting.

[Josh]

Speaking of French, poor kid hit me. A couple weeks ago, we talked about the fourth prime minister resigning.

[Andy]

Yes.

[Josh]

Under Macron, like, yeah, guess what? Fifth prime minister resigned.

[Andy]

They. The one they just elected.

[Josh]

Shortest one yet. What, not in height, but in term.

[Andy]

Yeah, he was pretty short.

[Josh]

Less than a month. What's up with that dude?

[Andy]

Just take a hiatus. Hiatus.

[Kelsey]

What are they saying?

[Josh]

It's. His name is Sebastian La cornui.

[Kelsey]

Let me try. Sebastian Luculle.

[Josh]

But Sebastian was appointed Prime Minister on 9th September. He presented his ministerial ministry.

[Lily]

Geez. Ministerial.

[Josh]

Ministerial. That's a word. Lineup. On October 5th. He resigned the next day on October 6th, having come under intense political pressure and lacking sufficient support in Parliament.

[Kelsey]

I mean, he cracked under pressure one.

[Andy]

Day or got forced out.

[Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Andy]

I mean, what's the game here?

[Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Like, you got to be pickier. Right? I mean, there's got to be something.

[Kelsey]

Going on or they're just. They're all doing the same thing where they're just trying to make Macron look bad. They're like, oh, yeah, we'll go in and then we'll leave the Next day to make him look like he's like a tyrant.

[Andy]

So it's the prime Minister.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

And the Macron is what?

[Josh]

The president.

[Andy]

The president.

[Josh]

I don't.

[Andy]

So what's our equivalent of our prime minister? What's the American. What's the right equivalent?

[Josh]

Probably the governor. The governor of your state.

[Andy]

Really?

[Josh]

I would. I don't know. Parliament confuses the heck out of me. I don't understand it.

[Lily]

Certain.

[Josh]

Like European government structure.

[Kelsey]

I would say probably more like Congress, but they're ahead.

[Josh]

They're like a head. They're the head of Parliament, the prime minister.

[Andy]

Oh, so it'd be like the secretary of Defense or like.

[Josh]

I don't think we have a comparison.

[Andy]

Really.

[Lily]

I'm gonna chat GPT that.

[Andy]

I mean, Secretary of War.

[Josh]

So, like, in. In the uk, the prime minister basically runs the country. The monarchy does not.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

They just own a bunch of land.

[Andy]

Oh, so like Trump. And then there's like, Elon and Peter Thiel above Trump.

[Kelsey]

Right, right, right.

[Lily]

Probably.

[Kelsey]

Wait, no, more like blackrock.

[Lily]

It's like Dick Cheney with Bush.

[Josh]

There you go. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kelsey]

Okay, now, good segue for me.

[Josh]

Now, good segue for me.

[Kelsey]

I. I don't even like talking about this because it's so. Well, we have to got to Candace one.

[Andy]

Candace won the. Yeah. I don't. I haven't been following it. But you guys have, right?

[Kelsey]

She won. And then. Not necessarily that she won that Macron's wife is a man, but she won that it wasn't a defamation situation, that she had the ability to exercise free speech.

[Andy]

Defamation situation.

[Josh]

Defamation situation. Welcome to the stage.

[Andy]

Defamation situation.

[Kelsey]

I get out of the bathtub, I'm like, josh, Candace won.

[Josh]

This is crazy.

[Andy]

She's having a heck of a year.

[Josh]

Yeah. She's doing a lot of the investigation into the Charlie Kirk stuff too, which is pretty wild, dude.

[Andy]

Super wild. You were talking about a little bit this morning.

[Josh]

Yeah. I want to get my. I want to. More stuff to come out before we talk about.

[Kelsey]

My brain can't even go there because if. If all this stuff even has a shred of truth, it's like.

[Josh]

It's very scary.

[Andy]

And if it gets proven, it'd be all true. We will be talking about it.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

But it's just like. It's just. It's so divisive right now, and it's such a tough thing to even understand. Like. Or even, like, see through. I don't know.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

I think more is gonna be coming out shortly, though, in the next year or two. I think there's gonna be more and more.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

I just don't think it's as simple as we are being told it is.

[Kelsey]

It's also too early. It's too soon. Like he.

[Lily]

We have.

[Kelsey]

The nation has not mourned him yet. And although I. I would be devastated if this young man was sentenced to prison or death or whatever they're anticipating without there being an actual investigation. You know what I'm saying?

[Andy]

I think it's weird that he's not in court.

[Kelsey]

I think it's weird it's all video. I think it's weird that we're naming him the guy that did it without due process. You guys, what kind of nation do we live in?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Yep, I agree on the Superman poster.

[Lily]

Yeah. What is that?

[Josh]

Well, apparently, I don't know. I don't know if this is true or not.

[Andy]

What?

[Josh]

That Dairy Queen. Did you see someone? I don't know if this is true. Yeah, but someone that the.

[Andy]

Because Tyler went to Dairy Queen apparently after the shooting.

[Josh]

Apparently that Dairy Queen is shut down now. Empty.

[Andy]

We'll have to look into that.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

I mean, it wouldn't be hard.

[Josh]

It was outside of this Dairy Queen in Utah, but it was by the BYU campus. I don't know how close the UVU campus is a byu.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

I don't know. So.

[Andy]

Yeah, but they had a Superman poster, like a full stand up one. And that came out in July and so that was real weird.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

So. I don't know, man. It's strange. It all feels so strange.

[Josh]

Speaking of Dairy Queen, Melania Trump, did you see her talking to the Navy?

[Andy]

No.

[Josh]

This is amazing. This is awesome. Hold on, dude.

[Andy]

SNL making fun of Pete Hegseth was so funny.

[Josh]

Listen, she's addressing the Navy, right? Give me a second. It's right. It's right here. Listen to her. She's trying to say hoo ya. You know how they do it?

[Lily]

That's amazing.

[Josh]

That's so awesome.

[Lily]

That's great.

[Josh]

Very fun Navy.

[Lily]

I don't think I've ever heard her talk before.

[Josh]

I don't think I have either.

[Lily]

That's the first sound bite I've heard of her.

[Andy]

She's got a lot better voice. I feel like if she translated for Trump, it'd probably be a lot better.

[Kelsey]

I agree with you.

[Andy]

That'd be so funny.

[Josh]

Oh, wait, hold on. You can hear it talk.

[Andy]

It is an honor to be with.

[Kelsey]

You to celebrate the 250th year since the United States Navy was officially established.

[Andy]

Officially.

[Josh]

What ethnicity is she Somewhere near Russia. No, not South African. I think it's somewhere near Russia. Country near Russia or Russian.

[Kelsey]

My favorite ever, ever soundbite from her is when she's complaining about how I need to decorate the White House for Christmas.

[Andy]

What'd she say?

[Kelsey]

She's like, they always have me do this and I don't want to do it. I hate doing this. Literally, I'm decorating the White House.

[Lily]

I made that clip.

[Andy]

That's hilarious.

[Josh]

You guys hear about Mount Everest?

[Lily]

No.

[Andy]

No one think so.

[Josh]

When I've seen too many videos of Mount Everest to make me never want to go to Mount Everest. True.

[Andy]

Obviously, people will just need to respect the mountain.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Stay away.

[Josh]

But I mean, dude, it's insane the amount of people in this world that try to climb this mountain in one season.

[Andy]

Oh, I've seen pictures where they're like, like bumper to bumper, dude.

[Josh]

Yeah. And what just happened now is people were up on Mount Everest. Over a thousand people.

[Kelsey]

Oh, no.

[Josh]

And a giant like Once in a 20 year blizzard comes rolling in.

[Andy]

Oh, no.

[Josh]

And so they've been doing. I mean, by the time this comes out, we'll know more, but a thousand people were stranded on Mount Everest in this snowstorm.

[Andy]

This thousand.

[Josh]

Yeah, I know they've rescued. When this comes out, like, I know they've rescued like a couple hundred already.

[Andy]

Oh, my.

[Josh]

But over a thousand people are stuck on Mount Everest.

[Andy]

Hundreds. My die potentially. Dude, that is intense.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

That's crazy, bro. I mean, I, like, I literally was thinking about this morning. For some reason, Everest popped in my head. But I'm like, I don't know why we choose to do it. Like, why do we have to do it? I understand. It's like conquering, you know, it's. It's a, it's a inspirational thing to do. But at the end of the day, you just.

[Josh]

This is what I'm saying at this point. Yeah. The shirt, you know, the Sherpas, that's.

[Lily]

Where I was gonna go.

[Josh]

Those dudes, they're the real ones that.

[Andy]

Should be like, celebrated.

[Josh]

Celebrated because all these other dudes, I mean, you have to be. Have all this equipment. You have to have oxygen, like a.

[Andy]

Lot of money to do it. Yeah.

[Josh]

It's like carrying their packs up and stuff. It's crazy.

[Lily]

It's like the same thing, you know, like, Like I've been hunting and people talk high fence hunts where the dude just sets everything up and you come in and pull the trigger. It's like, sure, you did something. Yeah. But it's not the full Thing.

[Kelsey]

Yeah. It's like hiring a fishing charter.

[Josh]

I will say, if you've climbed Mount.

[Andy]

Everest, that's the same thing.

[Kelsey]

They literally cast it for you. You're like, really?

[Andy]

Stop it.

[Josh]

It's still fun.

[Lily]

Fully agree.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

I don't want to do this.

[Josh]

If you climb. If you climb Mount Everest, it's pretty freaking awesome. But I'm saying it's like, it's a.

[Andy]

Great, like, you know, anytime you're at a dinner party, you trump anybody.

[Lily]

Have you seen the documentary, though, where they interview Sherpas?

[Josh]

Yeah, I think so.

[Lily]

They're all like, we don't want to do this. And like, wives are like, I hope this is his last season.

[Josh]

They all have, like their only source.

[Lily]

Of income at this point, only money they make. And they're all looking for ways to get out of it. They know it's dangerous. They get frustrated because they have to take people who are ill prepared for what they're doing, and now it falls on them. So they're the ones who are literally carrying the gear.

[Josh]

They should just start a podcast.

[Andy]

They should.

[Kelsey]

Hey, you should go set it up for them.

[Andy]

Yeah, but they have to take us up the mountain first.

[Lily]

I tell you what they have. They have some stories.

[Andy]

Speaking of stories, poop on Everest.

[Josh]

Oh, yeah.

[Andy]

The millions of pounds of poop that have been left there.

[Josh]

The videos I see though, of like the frozen bodies up there where they just leave them. So scary, dude.

[Andy]

It's just a nightmare. It's only getting the Everest is actually getting taller because of the poop.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

That's a sad thing.

[Kelsey]

I read when I was in middle school, I read a book called Peak. It was awesome.

[Josh]

Did you see who had the highest.

[Andy]

Poop ever in the world?

[Josh]

Probably someone's space.

[Lily]

It's not on our world.

[Kelsey]

Oh, like highest up on earth.

[Andy]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, that should be a record. Like someone on Everest had to have pooped at the highest level.

[Josh]

Dude, that'd be scary to poop up there.

[Andy]

Yeah, I mean, like, it would be super scary.

[Josh]

You're bunghole would just immediately freeze over. Golly, that's scary.

[Andy]

Just like breaking off an icicle.

[Lily]

Oh, my gosh.

[Kelsey]

It froze. It froze.

[Josh]

It's like the saucer ice cream coming out.

[Andy]

Oh, froyo.

[Kelsey]

Enough. What were you gonna say?

[Josh]

Oh, that. This climber kid. Terrible. We're doing that. We're taking a turn.

[Andy]

Taking a ride. Right.

[Josh]

He's climbing in Yosemite. Apparently he was a really young kid in his 20s and he was Just breaking all these records. Like he was like on the up and up and he was. He just broke a record in Yosemite, but he was rappelling down to get something and it looks like he didn't realize how short his rope was done.

[Andy]

So his bag got snagged.

[Josh]

Oh, is that what happened?

[Andy]

Yeah, it's the El Capitan at Yosemite. Like the.

[Josh]

Oh, Yosemite.

[Andy]

Yeah, the huge one.

[Lily]

The Mac background.

[Josh]

What was I saying?

[Kelsey]

Send Yosemite.

[Josh]

Oh, yeah, okay. But yeah, the video was very sad.

[Lily]

Oh, it shows not him.

[Josh]

Like, it's just the beginning of.

[Andy]

Yeah, but he was streaming during it, so it was like so scary, dude.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

I mean, yeah. 23.

[Josh]

Yeah, I think so.

[Lily]

Dude, that's.

[Kelsey]

That's.

[Lily]

Dude, even bouldering, like, that's a thing I'll never be into.

[Josh]

I was into bouldering for a while.

[Lily]

Were you really?

[Josh]

I was a Boulder kid. Yeah.

[Andy]

Show me your boulder hands.

[Josh]

Was not very good at it.

[Lily]

Dude. Climbing up like a 15 foot tree stand. I'm like, this is enough. I'm like struggling.

[Josh]

Speaking of tree stands.

[Lily]

Yeah, man.

[Josh]

I have the scary story about Aleister Crowley.

[Andy]

Oh, you're going to talk about it, huh? Yeah, this morning you were kind of scared.

[Josh]

I am going to talk about it right after this. I said I'll go anywhere.

[Andy]

That was a good cat.

[Lily]

Not my gong.

[Josh]

Was that on the thing?

[Andy]

Oh, I thought that was you. That was a really good cat.

[Josh]

Dude, when did making plans get this complicated? It's time to streamline with WhatsApp, the.

[Lily]

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[Josh]

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[Lily]

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[Kelsey]

Man, I wish this episode could go for longer than it is right now.

[Andy]

Well, it is. It's the half the middle of the show. It's going to continue more.

[Kelsey]

I meant even after that.

[Andy]

Oh, that's not possible. We. We film a podcast. We're done. Right?

[Kelsey]

Andy, have you ever heard of patreon?

[Josh]

Patreon.

[Andy]

Patreon.

[Kelsey]

Patreon.com.

[Andy]

Is that an old wooden ship that was used back in the Civil War era?

[Kelsey]

In some circles, yes.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Kelsey]

But in the application I'm using, it's a continued episode for people support the show.

[Andy]

Oh, so more ninjas and butterflies.

[Kelsey]

Yes.

[Andy]

So you just get an extra episode though. That's it.

[Kelsey]

Not only that, you get discounts on merch. You get to enter into a private community on Discord.

[Andy]

Oh, nice.

[Kelsey]

With like minded people and ninjas.

[Andy]

That's great.

[Kelsey]

What else?

[Andy]

They don't give like discounts on merch, do they?

[Kelsey]

I already said that.

[Andy]

That seems pretty great. Behind the scenes footage, baby.

[Kelsey]

Yeah, often.

[Andy]

Oh, cool.

[Kelsey]

Yes.

[Andy]

Well, you sold me.

[Kelsey]

Well, go to patreon.com ninjas or butterflies.

[Andy]

Do they have an app?

[Kelsey]

Yeah, and an app.

[Andy]

Wow. Makes it so easy.

[Kelsey]

We also have YouTube elite. Is that what it's called?

[Andy]

YouTube.

[Kelsey]

Member. Member.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Yeah. That's awesome. More content for the podcast you already love. How could you hate that?

[Kelsey]

I know. It's chill time.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Kelsey]

And if you ever need merch custom apparel for your group and you like to be comfortable and soft, go to sundaycool.com or contact your favorite rep.

[Andy]

What's the number?

[Kelsey]

1-800-865-480226.

[Andy]

Wow. We got Lily to see twice this episode.

[Kelsey]

I know. I'm so musical. I listen lay miz all day. Look at these.

[Andy]

Who are. Oh, me and a cute. Those are some of my favorites.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Looking back on, I keep every single one so sweet.

[Josh]

Me and l have been jamming out to Les Mis a lot lately.

[Lily]

Have you?

[Andy]

You know that song I've been jamming out to?

[Josh]

Baby girl, I wanna take you to the wonder. Wonder why?

[Andy]

So good.

[Josh]

Oh, yeah.

[Andy]

You guys watch Les Mis?

[Josh]

No, Just listening to the album.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Josh]

It's really good.

[Andy]

That's a choice. It's a choice.

[Josh]

One Day More, the song One Day More.

[Andy]

How does it go?

[Josh]

One Day More.

[Kelsey]

You gotta listen to it.

[Andy]

With.

[Josh]

They will start a revolution. No, we will nip it in the bud.

[Andy]

I always thought it was nipping in the butt.

[Kelsey]

School boys.

[Josh]

They will wet themselves with blood.

[Andy]

Whoa.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Scary revolution. French Revolution happened in the 1700s.

[Kelsey]

This wasn't the French Revolution, apparently. Remember, we discovered that together.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Kelsey]

Some other fight they got in this French man.

[Andy]

Some mother fight.

[Josh]

They just keep fighting, dude.

[Andy]

They can't get enough of it.

[Josh]

What we Want Napoleon.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Yes. Notoriously. Not short, apparently.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

It was propaganda.

[Andy]

Propaganda, but a real jerk, apparently. Yeah. I mean, you have to be to be a lot of people to be him. You have to be.

[Josh]

Isn't that crazy that France was taking over the world?

[Andy]

Imagine that.

[Josh]

Imagine that. Are we sure this is real?

[Andy]

I didn't know this was fiction. This is all made up.

[Kelsey]

France is huge, Right?

[Josh]

It's pretty big.

[Kelsey]

What's up with my distorted understanding of the map?

[Josh]

I mean, all of Europe is very tiny compared to the U.S. uSA.

[Andy]

Have you seen. Have you seen, like, the. Like, the real map? Like, how. Because we learn off a different map.

[Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Where everything's just like. We keep it around the same size.

[Josh]

They've made Africa so small.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Compared to what it actually is.

[Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Like, it's like Russia, the U.S. i think even China. They can all fit inside the continent of Africa.

[Andy]

Three Americas can fit inside of Africa.

[Kelsey]

It's wild.

[Andy]

That's insane.

[Josh]

That is a lot of land.

[Andy]

That is. Is that your Melania?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Cool.

[Josh]

Who? Yeah.

[Lily]

Who?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Navy.

[Josh]

Who? Yeah, Navy.

[Kelsey]

I can't say that I would do any better. She has an accent. But if I got up there and I said it, you guys would laugh at me all day long.

[Josh]

Do it.

[Andy]

No, just say just one.

[Kelsey]

We are Navy. Stop. Do you remember the time during the time that we were at that conference that. At somebody's church and I was pregnant with Ada?

[Josh]

Oh, I will never forget it.

[Andy]

The one conference.

[Kelsey]

Yeah. And I was still talking to him.

[Andy]

He was like, yeah, you all take one thing.

[Josh]

Speaking of Lily talking.

[Andy]

Question, quarter question. Quarter questions are fresh on her mind. Also, I do want to apologize for getting you up on the stage in Tampa for when you didn't expect it. Oh, it's fun because I. Yeah, it was fun. I. I don't regret it because you killed it, but I do like how I did. I hope you didn't feel like. Well, thanks a lot, Andy.

[Kelsey]

No, I anticipated that you guys doing. And especially because I had noticed everybody noticing me there. And if they. If you guys have played the recording, they would have been like, why didn't you Google, you pansy?

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Kelsey]

So I accepted the challenge. Anywho. Okay. This is a fun one. I've been using Zack talk a lot. He's on Tick Tock, obviously. Would you rather have a scratch, sniff, and lick experience that differs in every room based on a different national cuisine? So you have, like, an Italian room and the wallpaper, you can scratch it, sniff it, and you can even in your own Home. Yes.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Kelsey]

Every room is a different.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Kelsey]

National experience, or would you rather. It's not like you're getting a plate of food. It's just like a little Italian taste.

[Andy]

Is there the other senses too, where you can like hear things? Like you walk in, it's just like my money. And then like hustle.

[Kelsey]

We could add that. It wasn't in my original question, but I think that that is permissible. And then. Or would you rather.

[Andy]

And then.

[Kelsey]

Or would you rather have each room outside the window? There's a different landscape. So you have like, you can look out the window and there's Landscape.

[Lily]

Landscape.

[Kelsey]

Yeah, me too.

[Andy]

Scratch and sniff. Dude, that's like the coolest thing.

[Josh]

It would be pretty cool, but a landscape would be really cool.

[Andy]

Is it an ever aging landscape? Like, it's like going throughout the seasons and stuff?

[Kelsey]

Seasons.

[Andy]

See, that's tough.

[Kelsey]

You have a garden room. It's not like you walk outside and you have a different landscape. It's just out your window.

[Andy]

Can you pick like a time period when that landscape existed? I just like the Cold War happening, I suppose.

[Josh]

The Black Plague.

[Kelsey]

It's all horrible. It's all the worst times.

[Andy]

Andy, why did you choose 1930s Germany? That's insane.

[Josh]

Gettysburg, Andy, come on. Yeah, yeah.

[Andy]

Scenery is that Fidel Castro.

[Lily]

I just feel like getting like a little taste or a sniff. It's just going to make you want to eat, then mad it's not there.

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andy]

Just imagine in the middle of the night, though, you just have some like orange chicken on your wall though, you know, that'd be pretty great taste, orange chicken.

[Josh]

Yeah, but then. Yeah, I get that though. But like, if you get hungry, like Andrew is saying, it's just like torture.

[Kelsey]

My dad would love that because he would always. My dad, we always say he's on European time. Like he never eats dinner with us. It's so bizarre. He'll eat maybe at like 10pm and. But he. And then he'll also go sneak into the kitchen and have a couple Doritos and we're like, stop eating at night. It's not good for your health. And he says, I just need some flavor. That's what he always says.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Kelsey]

So he would really benefit from the scratch, sniff and taste room.

[Andy]

Yeah, I would. I'm choosing that one for sure.

[Josh]

All right, Andrew, hit us with that thing.

[Lily]

Andrew has a real. Andrew, Andrew.

[Andy]

Scratchy, sniff, lick that.

[Josh]

Andrew has a real.

[Andy]

Gonna see that?

[Kelsey]

Oh.

[Lily]

Throwback to my childhood. I've had this experience.

[Kelsey]

Is that a barracuda?

[Lily]

No, That's a mackerel.

[Andy]

Ooh, barracuda.

[Lily]

Chili water. Chili pepper water.

[Josh]

All right, ready? I. I've seen this guy so many times.

[Andy]

You need the audio.

[Josh]

Not seen this.

[Lily]

I mean, audio doesn't hurt. Yeah, turn it. Turn it on.

[Josh]

All right, ready? Three, two, one.

[Lily]

Oh, wait for it. Listen.

[Andy]

Oh, my gosh.

[Josh]

Have you seen his stuff?

[Andy]

No, we.

[Josh]

You showed him. Him eating the. The hermit crab, I think.

[Lily]

No. Wow. Dude, all Asians do not look the same.

[Josh]

No, I swear it's the same guy. Have you seen him eat the octopus? No, I promise you, it's the same guy. He grabs a shell.

[Kelsey]

Yeah, you showed me that.

[Josh]

And there's an oct. A baby octopus inside. He just slurps it up. And when the head's in his mouth, he goes. He's like, yeah.

[Lily]

Isn't that how you're. I mean, not eating them, but how they kill them or they bite the brain?

[Josh]

Yeah. Bite the brain.

[Andy]

Bite the brain, babe. Yeah. That's not fun.

[Lily]

My dad used to pay us to eat fish eyes because it'd be funny. We'd like, you know, Asian style, cook whole fish and be like, eat the eye. Like, how much?

[Josh]

I've eaten a raw fish eye before and can't say it was great.

[Lily]

Dude. This. The. The bony part in the middle is bone. Yeah.

[Andy]

In the eye.

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Lily]

You think it's going to be like this gelatinous nothing, and then you're like, oh, that's so.

[Andy]

It's like a grape. Kind of like a gumpier grape.

[Josh]

Maybe a grape with a seed in it.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Kelsey]

We have a bonnet.

[Lily]

All right.

[Josh]

I don't think so.

[Andy]

Check. Was that Hades? Was it in Hercules or is the old lady and Hercules. They used to pop out her eyeball. A little hair on it.

[Josh]

Truly kind of creepy for a children's.

[Andy]

That's what I'm saying. I tell that to Kelsey all the time. She's like, we should be watching this. And I was like, listen, every Disney movie has evil people in it. That's the whole point is good versus evil. I know, but it all is very creepy. Like, yeah, Princess and the frog. Literally, like, witchcraft.

[Josh]

And, you know, I feel too much.

[Kelsey]

Yeah, that was pretty much in our house.

[Andy]

I couldn't believe it. Like how? Like. Yeah, so funny how. Yeah, I don't know. It's weird. Yeah.

[Lily]

We do not.

[Josh]

No bones in the eye. No, but there's a log in yours.

[Andy]

Get it out.

[Kelsey]

Can't. I have a splinter in mine.

[Josh]

Alistair Crowley.

[Andy]

Yeah, dude, let's talk about it.

[Josh]

Here's the thing.

[Andy]

Who is he?

[Josh]

We talked about last week that he's the occultist Satanist guy. Probably one of the most famous ones.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

This YouTube, which I've talked about them before or talked about him before. Mr. Mythos does amazing research and very good videos. Like, they're very enticing. Mr. Mythos. Everyone go sub to his thing. Maybe don't watch this video, though, that he just did about Alistair Grally.

[Andy]

Do it right before bedtime.

[Josh]

Yeah, I was. I kind of had it on the background on, like, the one and a half speed while I'm working and stuff. And I'm like, oh, yeah, like, this is getting really scary. Really, really scary and really demented. And so let me just go on the record and say Alistair Crowley was the epitome of evil.

[Andy]

Really evil. You feel confident saying that?

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Evil.

[Andy]

Okay. I believe you.

[Josh]

The practices that he did, he started his own form of magic, basically. So he was part of. I said it last week and I was mistaken, that he was part of this one magic occult club, whatever religion. And I said that. That the rocket guy was also part of that. Wrong. Alistair Crowley started his own magic occult cult.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And I forget what it was called, but the abbreviation is aa. And what was that?

[Kelsey]

What about. Are you scared?

[Andy]

That was like a spark.

[Josh]

But he, like, really went into just like, ancient. Ancient magic and, like, summoning spirits, talking to spirits, and like, doing really evil, demented practices. Like, a lot of yucky stuff, too. And apparently, too. Who's the founder of Scientology?

[Kelsey]

Oh, gosh. Can't remember his name.

[Andy]

Oh, Tom Cruise. No, it's. Yeah. Golly, why can I never. I always blank on the show or something. No, it's. It's H. It's Hugh Huberman.

[Josh]

No, not Huberman.

[Andy]

Yeah. Golly, I. I hate it. I hate what I remember.

[Kelsey]

Hubbard.

[Josh]

Hubbard.

[Lily]

Aaron.

[Andy]

Aaron Hubbard. L. Ron Hubbard.

[Josh]

L. Ron Hubbard.

[Andy]

That dude was a wacko.

[Josh]

Apparently he was, I think, friends with Alistair Crowley and part of his magic AA thing and then went off and started Scientology.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Which, if that shows you anything, of what Scientology might be really creepy.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

But the story was Aleister Crowley went to the Sahara Desert in Algeria to do this thing, which was called scrying. Like crying. Both an S. Yeah.

[Kelsey]

With bones.

[Josh]

Yeah. Well, it's like this ritual thing to where they. They enter these. What are they called? Athrils. It's not ethereals. Aethers. So apparently this magic cult thing, they believe that there's 30 aethers, basically different levels of dimensions that you can achieve and you can gain knowledge. And you have to perform these magic rituals to enter each aether.

[Andy]

Sure.

[Josh]

And they said, I believe it's between the 10th and 9th aether. No one has ever been able to pass that. Because in this aether, there is. They call it the Abyss. And in this abyss, there is, like, the God of demons in this abyss.

[Andy]

And so there's 30 of them, and no one's got past the 10th.

[Josh]

Correct. But this whole 38 years thing and the scrying, it was originally started by John Dee and Edward kelly in the 16th century. And that story is. I think we've talked about it before, but basically these dudes did this, like, occult magic kind of stuff. And apparently they were able to receive the language of the angels. And having the language of these angels, we'll call them demons or entities or.

[Andy]

Whatever could be fallen angels allow you.

[Josh]

To enter these different ethers.

[Kelsey]

Physically or spiritually.

[Josh]

Everything, like, you can see there and experience what's happening there. So I'll say I didn't get through this whole video because it was too much for me. So I, like, looked up after what kind of happened. But Crowley went out with this guy Newberg and who was like, his disciple, Crowley's disciple. And they went to the Sahara Desert in Algeria. And basically every day they were trying to. Or he was, he would enter another aether, Alistair Crowley. And his buddy Newberg was there to scribe basically everything that he was Crowley was experiencing. What I found interesting was every ether or aether that they went to, they always had to climb up on top of a mountain, which I thought was very interesting with what we've talked about with mountaintops and, like, where the gods come and. Oh, yeah, God shows, you know, like.

[Andy]

Mount Hermon, there's something significant for sure.

[Josh]

Yeah. But apparently during this travel thing, this was in 1909 when he died. You know, I'm not sure.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Josh]

But it was really weird. Crowley was just a terrible person to this Newburgh guy, but it was his disciple. And, like, the whole thing was, like, to dehumanize, dehumanize them and make them feel awful and, like, all this weird stuff. And so, like, when they got to Algeria, Crowley actually shaved this dude's head, except for the hair on his temples, and basically pointed up his hair to where it looked like devil horns.

[Kelsey]

What the heck? What a weirdo.

[Josh]

That's what I'm saying. Super weird stuff.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

But apparently at one point during this journey, Crowley went to, like, the 10th or something aether and had this experience with this demon and sacrifice. Crowley, like killed him in this realm.

[Kelsey]

The disciple?

[Josh]

No, this demon. But not like physically, but like the whole point was like for you to get from the 10th past, the 9th aether or whatever, this void, this demon, you cannot have any like self image. Like you have to be like dead to yourself. And so apparently in one of these aethers, Crowley was sacrificed. And I won't go into any like further of like what happened. Super creepy, horrifying. But apparently he came and encountered this demon, this in that lived in the abyss. And it took possession of his buddy with the horns.

[Kelsey]

Oh gosh.

[Josh]

And literally he. He transformed into this creature, had a dagger and was like fighting. And so they did this whole thing. And long story short, after that, after he defeated this entity, he was this. On this new higher level of the magic and able to finally the first person ever to reach number one aether.

[Kelsey]

I don't understand. Did he kill his disciple?

[Josh]

No.

[Kelsey]

Did his disciple kill the. The spooky thing?

[Josh]

This disciple became the spooky thing.

[Kelsey]

And who was getting stabbed?

[Josh]

Crowley. Oh, my God. But like, it wasn't metaphorically they like really happening.

[Andy]

But it was like mentioned like a.

[Lily]

Different and a different realm.

[Kelsey]

What the heck?

[Josh]

It was like. But the dimension was also interacting with earth and like, so it was like real physical, but also in the other dimension.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Just creepy stuff.

[Andy]

Yeah. Wacky everyday kind of stuff.

[Josh]

Yeah. I don't know where I'm going with this story, except that there's. I. It almost made me want to be like, I don't want to research this Crowley guy that much more just because like even hearing it and watching the.

[Andy]

Stuff that he did, you know, it's ill.

[Josh]

It's so evil. Like the spells.

[Kelsey]

So what did he started? The Masons?

[Josh]

No.

[Lily]

Scientology?

[Andy]

No. Mason started back in like 1700s.

[Lily]

Yeah. Can. Can I add a. So while you were telling that story, I'm like kind of diving in for the connection between Crowley and Elrond. And forgive me if I'm duplicating because I was kind of coming in and out of reading and listening. But. So Jack Parsons is the guy who.

[Josh]

Is the rocket guy, right.

[Lily]

And he was. Crowley's like, he was close to his works. Elrond was under in an assistant to Jack Parsons. And so that's how that plays out. But it gets crazy. Apparently they were trying to. Wait where.

[Kelsey]

Hold on.

[Lily]

Just give me one second because this was. This was crazy. Shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot. It brings up the language and then.

[Josh]

It talks about Nokian. That's what it's called.

[Lily]

Yeah, Enochian or Enochian. And I'm like, while they're doing. It's called the Babylon something they're doing, they're trying to bring up the. Hold on, give me. This is like 100 chat GPT searches. And then I'm trying to make sure that these are actually like, from someplace. He believed that a ritual called the Babylon working could invite a divine feminine force to appear in human form and become his magical partner. This is from the rituals January to March of 1946. This is Parsons. His aim was to manifest an incarnation of Babylon the third, a thic goddess of sacred sexuality and freedom identified as the Scarlet Woman in Crowley's writings from.

[Kelsey]

From Revelation.

[Lily]

The ritual involved Enochian invocations and thelemic prayers and symbolic gestures. No relatable reliable evidence supports the sensational later rumors of extreme acts or human sacrifice. But a ton of people believe that to be true. And so I started asking, like, Enochian invocations, is that really what that sounds like? And sure enough, it is the language from Enoch, it's like directly tied to it. So even in the occult, they are like, yeah, this is real. And we utilize it to get to these spaces and to do these things. And so all of the, the things that we dislike. I'll just say it this way. The things that we, we dislike or that we have problem with as society, I would say, devolves or falls into these places are directly tied to the people. Like, you think about the advancements of science, technology.

[Josh]

Yeah. And that's the 1900s.

[Lily]

Like, directly tied to occultism.

[Josh]

Yep. That's what I was basically talking about. Jesse Michaels, this whole thing with NASA and stuff that we talked about last week. This, that story. These are the people that were influencing science.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And it's like in the future, Father of jet propulsion.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And it's like, dude, in the days of Noah, like the freaking watchers giving all this knowledge and these dudes are harnessing it and like talking to these entities and these demons and gaining this knowledge of rocket propulsion and physics. And it's like, oh, my gosh. Yeah, it's freaky.

[Andy]

It's wild, man. Like, the advancement, how quickly it all advances is nuts.

[Josh]

Yeah. And this isn't. This isn't like conspiracy hocus pocus kind of stuff. This is like, there's real validation, there's real proof that these scientists are or have been a part of this occult stuff.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

And that's not something you just dabble in either.

[Lily]

No, it says Enochian calls in the 1946 writes mixed with thelemic prayers. The religion that Crowley founded or came up with on his own, I think this is the magic you were referencing is called Thelema. I believe Thelema. But yeah, they believe that the invocations, these prayers or these self hypnotic, you could call them chants, hymns, they would open gateways or attract spiritual forces. So it's literally just like chanting a ancient, literally demonic magic.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Prayer thing.

[Josh]

It's freaky, it's horrible. And those guys, John Dee and Edward kelly in the 16th century, which I think it was, I believe it was Edward Kelly was the like scribe or something for the Queen at that time. The Queen of England.

[Kelsey]

Wow.

[Andy]

Interesting.

[Josh]

And so they were doing this together, these two and they had been describing this Enochian language I believe for like 12 years. So he would go into this trance and he'd have like a crystal ball which that's like where this whole occult freaking.

[Lily]

Palantir.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

What do you mean?

[Josh]

Well, Palantir, like the ball.

[Lily]

That's what it, that's what it is.

[Josh]

But he would basically relay this language and Edward Kelly or vice versa, they would write it down. And that's where this whole occult magic, speaking to these entities and achieving these different ethers.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

So scary.

[Lily]

Lord of the Rings is real.

[Andy]

I just wish everyone was on this page that like there's, there's so many people that like, I mean like us 5 years ago I would have never known about any of this. But it's just like I hate that like there's so much information out there that is obviously dangerous.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

And if people knew about it, they could be more aware of what's actually happening, what's going on. Because these people don't just dabble in the cult stuff. Like these people were devoting their lives to it previous to their life like in NASA or wherever. It's like, it's just strange, man.

[Kelsey]

Yeah. It's spooky.

[Andy]

So wild, scary stuff.

[Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Scary, scary stuff.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Kelsey]

And I think too something that our churches are missing is just like it's, it's easy to get to. It's like it's true, but it's also like a shallow aspect. To be like evil on earth is us and our sin true. But evil is also a tangible, horrific principality thing. Like in Ephesians it talks about we're not fighting against flesh and bone, we're fighting against the principalities, you know, And I mean people, people forget that we're fighting against the invisible.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Kelsey]

And the invisible is the primary you know, the spiritual realm is the primary. We are living in the non primary.

[Lily]

Yeah, I think it's. I think it's cool. People are waking up too. I had a friend from Bible college and I don't know if he wants. He's. He's pastoring a church right now and I don't know if he's ready to be spurred into the conversation fully, but he actually thanked me and us for having these conversations around these topics. He's like, people need to like be looking into this and aren't yet and churches like, aren't. So maybe he is in his own church. But I thought it was cool that, you know, someone who continued in seminary is like, this matters in the Christian world.

[Kelsey]

What's funny is that we have people in our life and like, you know, just people that are. They critique or they question like the value of what we're talking about. They're like, stay in the light, stay in the hope. Talk about positive things, which is true and necessary. But it's also like there is a mission with the people that have lived and understood and seen evil actually happen and experience it in their lives. And we can't leave them out of the equation. They have questions to ask, you know, and it's like, so all things are important and there's a balance.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Right.

[Andy]

I mean, the Old Testament, there's a lot of bad stuff that happened there. But the New Testament says, like, use the Old Testament as lessons. Like, look back, like you can learn from these people and you know, know where not to mess up and where to, you know, like really put your hope in.

[Kelsey]

Yeah. So and enriching our understanding of biblical history and like really like the tangibility of evil. How evil is also like outside of us, you know, is important.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Kelsey]

As long as you don't get like stuck in it.

[Josh]

Yeah. I would actually say, yeah. Don't really from experience, don't research the dark stuff. All that heavy, like outweigh. If you are going to research dark stuff, outweigh it heavily with researching the church. Yeah. You know, just from experience. Because there's some dark points.

[Lily]

Go to the ether, find a path, you'll see it, then you'll believe it. Then you'll be a better soldier for the kingdom.

[Andy]

Always said.

[Lily]

Yeah, DMT is a good way to get there.

[Josh]

No, I do have a cool story.

[Andy]

Cool story.

[Josh]

The miracle.

[Lily]

Let's go.

[Josh]

There can be miracles. When you believe. When you believe, people are going to freak out that you sing.

[Andy]

It was just Andrew.

[Kelsey]

Yes.

[Josh]

Sad story.

[Kelsey]

Supposed to be A good story.

[Josh]

It's a cool miracle story.

[Andy]

As soon as you get done singing. So sad story.

[Josh]

No, it involves the ussr.

[Kelsey]

Oh.

[Josh]

So been doing a lot of research on the Orthodox Church. Eastern Orthodox Church?

[Andy]

No way.

[Josh]

Yep. Pretty cool stuff.

[Andy]

Okay, sum it up in one word.

[Josh]

Mysterious.

[Kelsey]

I'm hooked.

[Josh]

But yeah. So the communists, what was it? The communists hate God, do they? They do.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Josh]

The Marxism. The core spirit of communism is Marxism, which is atheism, which is anti religion, anti God. The USSR was so heavy into the atheism that they persecuted the Orthodox Church in Russia heavily. And I looked up stats. So, for instance, in 1930s, the Russian Orthodox Church records that 106,300 clergy, that's priests and monks, were executed in the 1930s. Over a hundred thousand. Just priests and monks.

[Andy]

That's nuts.

[Josh]

But another figure, during the entire reign of the USSR. So from 1917 or when the revolution started, to 1953, 60 million people were killed and 66 million were in prison. And they estimate that at least half of those were Christians. 60 million that were killed, 66 were in prison.

[Andy]

Gosh, dude.

[Josh]

So that's not an evil core to your government? I don't know what is.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

For sure.

[Josh]

But this was one year, not even a year into the formation of the official ussr, that this took place. It was this. Oh, by the way, this whole story is from my favorite YouTube channel right now. It's Harmony.

[Kelsey]

Yeah, super good.

[Josh]

Harmony on YouTube. And I pay for their membership because really? Yeah, I love, love their videos.

[Kelsey]

Their content. Their content is amazing. Like, they're the way they make their videos, the way they tell stories.

[Josh]

Yeah. So Harmony. What's their harmony?

[Andy]

Harmony. Harmony.

[Josh]

Harmony.

[Lily]

Harmony.

[Josh]

Harmony. So everyone go subscribe to them because their stories are really awesome. They put a ton of work into them.

[Andy]

How the early Christians fought demons. Yeah, that one's putting that on my watch later.

[Kelsey]

It's really good.

[Josh]

Yeah, it's super good. So 1923, these local authorities that were now sided with the USSR because it just started, they come into this Ukrainian village called Forgive me.

[Andy]

You nailed it.

[Josh]

And they tried to get the people in this village to sign a petition to basically get rid of the church. And what it was met with was everyone protested it and they're like, get out of here. We're never signing that. We're never shutting down our church. And so the authorities left, but they left and they were really mad. And right outside the village, there's this giant wooden cross with a metal figure of Jesus on it. And the authorities were so mad they started shooting at this cross. One of these authority guys, police officers, they struck the side of Jesus on the cross, instantly started pouring out blood. What freaked them out? And they basically ran away from it because they're like, what. I mean, it was like.

[Andy]

Like blood, and it was a metal.

[Josh]

Statue, a metal thing of Jesus on a wooden cross.

[Andy]

Yeah. Wow.

[Josh]

And word spread real quick. And by that evening, over 30,000 Christians in Ukraine gathered around this cross and were praying. And the next day, a Jewish family came and they asked to be baptized into the church because they're like, this is truly a miracle. Like, this is insane.

[Andy]

Yeah. How can you ignore that?

[Josh]

And what's crazy is for days, for weeks, I think these soldiers, they kept on trying to remove the cross, and they said that they were not able to because they felt an invisible force pushing them away.

[Kelsey]

Wow.

[Josh]

Like, they weren't even able to, like, touch it. Yeah.

[Andy]

My gosh.

[Josh]

And they said that the authorities, like, when they're on their horses, when they go up to the horses, would freak out and run away.

[Andy]

Wow.

[Josh]

And so they weren't able to do it. The ussr, I mean, it took off, like, nationwide. It was, like, in every newspaper. And the USSR were like, here's the. This is what happened. It was basically a buildup of water, rust within this Jesus.

[Andy]

Sure.

[Josh]

And it was leaking, but it was leaking every day.

[Andy]

Yeah. It was, like, gushing.

[Josh]

And this Jewish doctor, he's like, I just want to see this. And so he goes and collects a sample, test it. And he's like, it's blood.

[Kelsey]

Oh, my gosh.

[Josh]

There's blood pouring out from the side of Christ that is on the statue. Yeah. And it basically turned the whole country, like, reignited this, like, movement because, like, the ussr, they're heavily persecuting the Christians. So, like, a lot of people were, like, turning away from the church.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

But it basically rallied them back up, at least for a short time. And then the USSR came in. They're finally able to tear down the cross, and then they outlawed and destroyed all crosses within Soviet Russia.

[Andy]

Good Lord, man.

[Lily]

You full. You fully believe that that story happened?

[Josh]

I do, yeah.

[Andy]

Really?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

What, so they had an invisible force that was keeping them from it, Right?

[Josh]

Sure.

[Lily]

Why did it quit working, do you think?

[Josh]

Probably because Jesus did what he needed to do was to re. Establish.

[Andy]

Start a revolution a little bit.

[Josh]

Yeah. I mean, you had 30,000 Christians come and just start praying to Christ for, you know.

[Andy]

Yeah. Who knew? Who knows what it led to?

[Kelsey]

And that family was saved as a result.

[Josh]

Apparently, too, there's While this cross was erected, there was just thousands of people. A ton of atheists came, saw it and believed in Christ and were baptized. So that's why I believe it.

[Lily]

I mean, if I saw a metal statue bleeding red, it messed with my head too.

[Kelsey]

Literally.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Gosh, man.

[Josh]

So I thought that was just.

[Andy]

No, I love that. That's so cool.

[Lily]

Maybe the solution to the community we live in, the nation we live in, is that persecution would get so bad that they are tearing our crosses and churches down.

[Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Say that again.

[Lily]

Said maybe the solution, the salvation we wish to see for the people in our nation. I was trying to be careful to not say for the nation, like for the individuals in the nation. Well, that's a.

[Kelsey]

For the church in America.

[Andy]

We're a Christian nation.

[Josh]

Yeah. Our founding fathers were Christian.

[Kelsey]

Dude. There was a stand the other day, I was listening to a show and they were talking about how violent and like non violent acts of aggression toward Christians in America have gone up 400% in since 2019. And that can look like graffiti ing churches or just, you know, but I mean, I'm just saying we're living in an unprecedented time, you know.

[Josh]

Yeah. Well, you know those. Who, who's the one that coined the term dangerous prayers?

[Andy]

Oh, I don't know.

[Kelsey]

Who is that? David Platt or who is that?

[Josh]

Maybe, or maybe Francis, I don't know.

[Andy]

Is that Mr. Rogers?

[Josh]

Today we're going to be talking about.

[Kelsey]

Dude, I just finished Forgotten God by Princess Chan.

[Andy]

First time.

[Kelsey]

First time.

[Andy]

Oh, it's a great one. Oh so good.

[Kelsey]

Love that guy.

[Lily]

Dude, I'm still trying to make it through the Piper book.

[Andy]

Craig Groeschel.

[Kelsey]

Oh yeah.

[Josh]

But is he life church?

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Bible app.

[Kelsey]

Yeah, he is on my.

[Andy]

He's the best. His leadership podcast. It's like 15 minutes that church.

[Josh]

Did we meet? No.

[Kelsey]

Really?

[Josh]

Okay.

[Lily]

Sorry.

[Josh]

Dangerous prayers. It's like if we praying for this country to come to know Christ, it might mean heavy persecution on Christians that establish a true authentic church.

[Andy]

I also heard the phrase God sized prayers, like just like pray stuff that like if something, if it happened, if it came true, there's literally no logical explanation of how it could have came true. Except for God. Be specific. Pray big.

[Josh]

Yes, yes.

[Kelsey]

That's what Francis was talking about. He's talking about a circumstance where this guy was like, he and his wife go, we are perturbed about the condition of orphans in the world. We've got to do something like just a concept as big as that where people would be scared of just, you know, tackling Something like that. They end up starting something. Ends up in Rolling Stone, like, every year is like, one of the number one nonprofits.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Kelsey]

But he was on the phone with an orphanage in, I think it was Haiti or Honduras or something. And they're like, we desperately need this type of medicine, and children will die. They don't get it. He prays with them on the phone. He's like, the only thing I could think to do right now is pray. Not two minutes later does he get a phone call from a pharmacy in New Jersey that has. Is the only one of two manufacturers in the United States of this type of medicine, and they've got crates of it that they don't need.

[Andy]

Yeah, that's it. Yeah.

[Kelsey]

I mean, it's just like, be specific. It's circumstances where you can glorify God because there's no way you could have accomplished this.

[Andy]

Yeah, that's faith, like, believing that he can do something that you know is physically impossible or impossible all around. You've heard his prayer that he met, like, with. That includes his daughter when she was older. No. So funny. So he's going. He's like, at a coffee shop. It's been a while since I've heard this story, but he's, like, out having coffee or something. And he meets, like, this young kid. College kid.

[Kelsey]

Go ahead.

[Andy]

Young college kid who's just great. He loves Jesus. He's got a great personality, good sense of humor, solid plan for life and everything. He's like this kid. And he literally was driving on the way home and prays to God, just says, God, I know this is weird, but I pray that you let this man marry my daughter. I would feel so good about that. He would take care of her in all this ways. And then like, six months later, they're like, you know, mom, I want to introduce you to my new boyfriend. Everything like that, he shows up at the house. It's the same guy that he prayed about.

[Josh]

Oh, I did hear that.

[Andy]

Yeah. It's wild.

[Kelsey]

It's just like, how do you not fall on your knees right then?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

And it's like, let his will be done. But he wants to hear everything single thought that you have or desire. And if it doesn't happen, you be okay with that. But if it does, who knows?

[Lily]

I will say arranged marriage is very Asian.

[Andy]

Yeah. I mean, it's on brand. It's on brand.

[Lily]

No, I have heard that story. He made the same joke.

[Andy]

It's so good.

[Josh]

I've been reading this book. I had to look up how to Even pronounce it. Lily knows how to pronounce it. The Philokalia or whatever.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Josh]

And it's. It's basically like a. More like in depth pieces from, like, the desert fathers and early saints and stuff like that. Really good. Pretty intense in some parts, but it was. I'm reading this part where it's talking about prayer and stuff and, like, how monks are to pray and this whole idea of not being distracted while you're praying. And the stories were insane. Like, apparently these monks were so. These early desert fathers were so in tune to praying to God and not being distracted that they were actually physically attacked by demons while praying. And they would manifest in certain ways. One time it talked about this desert father who was praying, and a demon apparently manifested into a lion, dug its claws into the desert father's thighs, and the guy didn't stop praying. He wasn't even phased by it.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And there's times where these desert fathers, like, where snakes would wrap around their necks and, like, try to, like, bite their face.

[Andy]

Literal snakes.

[Josh]

Yeah. And they just kept on praying.

[Andy]

That's amazing.

[Josh]

And I freaking was praying the other night, you know, like a bug, like.

[Lily]

Went up my nose. That's it. I'm done.

[Josh]

I can't do this.

[Kelsey]

I'm taking a shower.

[Josh]

Yeah. But it's a really cool book.

[Andy]

That's awesome.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Fakasha.

[Josh]

Fakasha.

[Andy]

Yeah. Ficasha.

[Kelsey]

Very good.

[Andy]

Got it.

[Lily]

Very good.

[Andy]

Love it.

[Josh]

Speaking of focaccia.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Don't you got a story about some Nazis?

[Andy]

Dude, there's not Nazis. Just one specific one. Oh, yeah, just one specific. His name is Hans. Hans Scharf.

[Josh]

Hans Scharf.

[Andy]

My name is Hans Scharf. So this man was a. He was, like, raised for a little while in, like, South Africa. This is actually a true South African quote that I'm saying. But he was raised in South Africa a while became, you know, he was really smart kid. And then they moved. His dad, like, was supposed to. For some reason, he was like, no, when he grew up, he was supposed to go to, like, he was being drafted, basically.

[Lily]

Okay.

[Andy]

But the day before he was getting drafted, he got a. An acceptance to go work in Germany. And so it just made it, you know, completely clear. So he moved to Germany, and then he ends up being an officer.

[Kelsey]

Oh, boy.

[Andy]

In the Third Reich.

[Kelsey]

Oh, boy.

[Lily]

Whoops.

[Andy]

And so he.

[Lily]

He.

[Andy]

He's working as an officer, and then he's working there for so long, and he's working in interrogations, and he gets to the point where he Gets the nickname the master interrogator. Because you think about Nazi interrogation techniques. You have people like, you know, you have people pulling out fingernails. You have poison, you have terrible, terrible stuff. But this guy went the complete and opposite direction. Good cop, good cop. There was no bad cop. He didn't have the bad cop. He would sit in a lot of the times and he would interject. And then he got to the point where he would start leading investigations, interrogations. He'd come in, he'd offer them a cigarette. Hey, be like, hey, you got. You need water, Anything at all.

[Lily]

Let's go for a walk.

[Andy]

He would literally take prisoners, pilots from foreign countries. He would just take them walks along the countryside and just talk with them, have casual conversations, care about their family, care about their, you know, their upbringing and stuff like that. And eventually the information would just start leaking out and they would get a rapport. And that just happened over years. He just became this inter. Like this incredible interrogator that everyone around. I mean, like, it was. It was a incredible success rate. With every pilot that he interacted with, he could get the information out of. And so he was foolproof. But whenever the war ended and, you know, everyone was captured, all the Nazi officers that were executed or anything, he got a free pass.

[Josh]

Why?

[Andy]

Because he technically, on paper, committed no war crimes.

[Josh]

So that's just a nice guy.

[Andy]

That's just a nice guy. I want to take a trip.

[Josh]

How's your family?

[Andy]

Yes.

[Kelsey]

I have to make a living.

[Andy]

Yes. And so guess where he moved to go make a living? The land of the free, baby. America. America. And then the FBI finds out and the CIA find about. Out about his interrogation techniques, and they bring him in and he starts holding seminars on how to interrogate without using, like, you know, lethal, like, threatenings or, like, hurting them, causing harm. And it seems like a great thing. And so it's like, it's really cool that this guy from the Third Reich, which, you know, he. A Nazi, comes over and starts teaching. Now you can literally find his techniques in the FBI handbook. All this stuff. Like, he has changed the game 110%. Like you could, when in that Tucker Carlson 911 interview. That guy who went over there, he was interrogation interrogating, and they were just like, just wanted to talk with him. It's literally the Han Scharf technique.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Andy]

That's all it is.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

And so it's changed the game completely. But the funny part is, which I think you're really gonna like.

[Kelsey]

Oh, gosh.

[Andy]

When he was a Kid when he was in South Africa, he was an artist. I think the lesson we can learn is just art schools should have a hundred percent acceptance of policy, especially German.

[Josh]

Yes.

[Lily]

They just.

[Andy]

Things would just go so much better. But he was really big in art when he was a kid. And he kind of stopped that as he grew older because he got preoccupied with being a Nazi. And then he came back to America and said, you know what? I'm done doing these seminars. They've got what they need. They're putting this stuff into practice. I want to go back to art. And he got. He was so good at art and mosaics and stuff like that that a friend named Walt Disney calls him up and says, hey, I got a really good, really good project that I think you'd be really killer at. So you know Cinderella's castle? You know those five, 15 foot murals?

[Kelsey]

Yes.

[Andy]

Literally created all by Hans Schwarf.

[Kelsey]

A Nazi.

[Lily]

A Nazi? Like for real.

[Andy]

110.

[Lily]

This is no bait, no switch.

[Andy]

There is. He has art in public government buildings all over the country. But that is literally his prize in like, just prized piece of art is literally the whole Cinderella mosaic. You can look at it today.

[Lily]

Oh, my gosh. It's true.

[Kelsey]

That is so.

[Andy]

It's wild.

[Josh]

So he wasn't a Nazi. He was a nicey.

[Andy]

Yes.

[Josh]

A nice, nice Z. Dude.

[Lily]

He put Schwarzika in it.

[Andy]

I don't doubt it.

[Lily]

What if. What if there were. You just look at the kids. Yeah.

[Andy]

Just weird. But that Walt has so many connections to those little, little Nazi guys.

[Kelsey]

Is he. I'm not Jewish. Is he German? Walt Disney?

[Lily]

Good question.

[Kelsey]

His mom's name is Lily Vault.

[Andy]

Disney.

[Josh]

Oh, Vault. Vault.

[Andy]

And his Disney Vault.

[Kelsey]

His mom died of carbon monoxide. Carbon monoxide poisoning. In the home that he bought for them.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

That's actually a terrible story.

[Andy]

What happened?

[Josh]

Mother and father.

[Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Oh, yeah. I remember this. Yeah. That's so sad.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Kelsey]

Wow. Good story, Andy.

[Andy]

Thank you.

[Josh]

That is a great story.

[Lily]

Walt Disney was Irish, German and English.

[Josh]

I know it.

[Andy]

What? I could smell it.

[Josh]

Mickey Mouse.

[Andy]

I sees you.

[Josh]

Where are you hiding, Mickey?

[Kelsey]

Is Cinderella German?

[Andy]

Yeah, of course.

[Kelsey]

I know Snow White is.

[Josh]

Why do they say Cinderella dressed in yellow? Just because of rhyme.

[Andy]

Yeah. I mean, it's. It's one of the catchiest things in the world. Dude. Cinderelli. Cinderella.

[Josh]

But doesn't she wear blue?

[Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Yes. Wait, is Cinderella's dress black and white or blue and gold?

[Josh]

Oh, we have fun.

[Andy]

Just fun stuff, you know.

[Josh]

It's more fun than this. What Patreon is it Time. Yeah, I forgot to hit the clock. What's that? What is that?

[Lily]

We're hour 41.

[Andy]

Oh, I wanted to talk about wetware.

[Josh]

What?

[Andy]

The brains that they're making in Sweden.

[Lily]

Well, guess What?

[Josh]

You can on patreon.com forward/, forward, forward slash. Ninjas or butterflies?

[Andy]

Oh, but I also want to talk about the guy that created the new gasoline, the diesel gasoline out of plastic.

[Josh]

Oh, plastic.

[Andy]

Plastoline. And it's legit. I know it's legit.

[Josh]

Let's talk about it.

[Andy]

Let's talk about it.

[Josh]

You can see it also in our YouTube membership, Ninja Elite. I'm losing.

[Andy]

Yeah, Ninja Elite.

[Lily]

I have a really crazy story, too, about there's actually, like, a beast that they found in Florida. Everyone thought it was fake, but then in, like, four different tribes, they have ancient records of this same creature.

[Josh]

Heck, yeah. Well, before we go. Hold on. I do. I meant to show you guys this at the beginning. So Sora, pretty fun app. Sora 2 came out and there was this one that they did of mlk, and I thought it was the funniest thing ever.

[Andy]

This is real, right?

[Josh]

This is real. This really happened in real life.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Hold on. Sorry.

[Andy]

Patreon.com Get Early Access, early episodes, extra episodes. Discounts on merch.

[Josh]

If you guys can see this. I have a. No, I have a dream.

[Andy]

I have a jeans. I have print.

[Josh]

I'm sorry. I have a spin. I'm half Dean.

[Andy]

I am the.

[Josh]

No, that's not. Quiet chocolate. All right, now, come on. I have a cream. I mean, I have a gene. I have cream.

[Kelsey]

I'm sorry.

[Josh]

I have a spin. I have Dean.

[Kelsey]

I know.

[Lily]

The smile and look down.

[Josh]

That's my favorite story video. That's you.

[Andy]

If you were okay, literally.

[Lily]

What do you.

[Josh]

What.

[Andy]

Have you seen the one where it go. It does just like the kid does where it's like. Have you ever had a dream that you ever. That you could you view that?

[Josh]

It's so good.

[Lily]

I'm just gonna start putting that watermark on all the videos. And you can't get in trouble because it wasn't really you.

[Josh]

It's true.

[Andy]

We just do that on everything.

[Lily]

We talk about funny.

[Josh]

And guys, thank you everyone that came out to our Florida tour.

[Lily]

Yeah, it was good.

[Josh]

Super cool.

[Andy]

Only one out of three shows down. We cannot wait for Tampa and Orlando.

[Josh]

But by the time it comes out, they had already gone.

[Andy]

Absolutely.

[Josh]

And we love you guys for that.

[Andy]

Yes, we appreciate you. So much fun.

[Josh]

Go to Send a cool swag.com to get your ninja merch. We got some new stuff coming out soon, so be on the lookout. If you need custom peril, go to Sunday cool.com, please. And make sure to like and subscribe to this on YouTube. Follow us on Spotify. Give us five stars, please. And it really helps.

[Andy]

What should they comment? Lily.

[Kelsey]

I wasn't listening.

[Josh]

Who's your favorite Nazi?

[Andy]

What should they comment?

[Josh]

Don't do.

[Kelsey]

Don't go with that scratch and sniff or landscape?

[Andy]

Landscape. Yep.

[Josh]

All right, guys, Love you.

[Andy]

Love you.

[Lily]

Bye.

[Kelsey]

What you're about to see may disturb.

[Josh]

You if any of you know what.

[Lily]

These multi decade ua pe.

[Kelsey]

A massive police response.

[Josh]

Dolphin s. Now I'm immortal. It feels like a portal Doomed to walk this world constantly.

[Andy]

I thought I was.