Ninjas Are Butterflies – Episode 165

Occult Science, Russian Revival, and Disney’s Hidden Past
Release Date: October 24, 2025
Hosts: Josh Hooper, Andy DeNoon, Kelsey, Lily

Episode Overview

In this laughter-packed and conspiracy-tinged episode, the Ninjas Are Butterflies crew weaves together a wide range of outrageous topics. The hosts tackle occult science and the influence of Aleister Crowley, chilling government secrets, a miraculous Russian Orthodox revival, and the strange Nazi connections in Disney’s legacy—with plenty of detours into wild pop culture, bodily functions, food conspiracies, and hilarious personal stories.

While the tone remains lighthearted and comedic throughout, several segments dive deep into bizarre history, speculation about power structures, the reality of spiritual evil, and how conspiracies often thread through pop culture and politics.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Live Show Recap & Florida Tour Antics

Timestamps: 02:08–05:56

• The crew recounts their first live shows, complete with venue disasters, terrifying hotels, suspicious leaks, and the mysterious Ramada hotel "ambiance."
• Memorable Quote:
  “We pulled up and you could tell this is the place where you can buy crack. And we did.” – Josh (03:03)
• Audience travel stories, mishaps with kids, and shoutouts to "Randy" the unforgettable hotel worker.

2. Immortality Song & Diarrhea

Timestamps: 07:15–11:41

• Josh and Andy perform a comic but surprisingly philosophical song about immortality’s downsides:
  “Now I’m immortal, it feels like a portal, doomed to walk this world constantly.” – (09:58)
• This segues into an existential digression about legacy, diarrhea, and the tragedy of living forever.
  “You diarrhea almost every day.” – Kelsey (11:41)

3. Debate: Should People Be Allowed to Homeschool?

Timestamps: 12:50–16:58

• A running gag unfolds as the group mock-debates the right to homeschool, culminating in a satirical acronym: "Homeschool stands for Highly Organized Mind Extraction System Creating Hyper Obedient Offspring of Lucifer.” – Josh (16:20)
• The segment playfully exposes the social perceptions around alternative education.

4. Food Conspiracies: The Restaurant Industrial Complex

Timestamps: 24:32–26:47

• The hosts bemoan the prevalence of mass-distributed (Cisco) foods in restaurants, denouncing the loss of genuine cooking and the illusion of variety.
• Quote:
  “We’re just literally little sheeple running around eating our Cisco food. It’s so sad.” – Kelsey (25:38)
• Lily shares the challenge of food allergies and the excitement when chefs can actually cook from scratch.

5. Capitol Bathtub, Guy Fieri’s Stolen Tequila, and More Oddities

Timestamps: 26:49–31:28

• Josh dives into the story of the massive marble “Senate Bath” in the Capitol's basement, installed for grimy senators in the 1850s.
• The saga of Guy Fieri's million-dollar tequila heist is recounted, with the hosts noting:
  “If I was Guy Fieri, I’d be leaning into this—tequila so good, the cartel wanted their hands on it!” – Andy (31:15)

6. Urban Chaos & The Portland Situation

Timestamps: 31:29–36:01

• Gripping discussion on sanctuary cities, the National Guard in Portland, and the alleged information blackout on social media regarding unrest.
  “They’re blocking TikTok from geotagging Portland. It’s just chaos.” – Josh (32:58)
• The increase in drugs, super-fentanyl, and the state’s controversial legalization measures are picked apart.

7. Geo-Politics: Drugs, China, and Societal Dependency

Timestamps: 38:21–39:54

• The British Empire’s sabotage of China with opium is compared to modern allegations about Chinese fentanyl exports.
• The hosts warn of the power nations hold by controlling food, medicine, or narcotics supply chains.
• “We’re dependent on a lot.” – Lily (39:54)

8. French Political Turmoil & Government Structures

Timestamps: 40:37–43:09

• The crew comments on the revolving door of French Prime Ministers under Macron, parodying the confusion of parliamentary government.
• Various ideas bounce around about U.S. political equivalents, none ultimately convincing.

9. Aleister Crowley, Occult Science, and Strange NASA Roots

Timestamps: 65:30–78:00

• Josh explains the horrific, occultic legacy of Aleister Crowley, his invention of esoteric rituals (Enochian language, Thelema), and links to early space science and Scientology.
  “Let me just go on the record and say, Aleister Crowley was the epitome of evil.” – Josh (66:27)
• Lily chimes in with details of Crowley’s “Babylon Working” ritual and its pursuit of Enochian magick, referencing dark ties between occultism, sexuality, and rocket science.
• Parallels are drawn between Crowley’s magic, NASA, and ancient “knowledge exchanges”— echoing biblical fallen angels narratives.

10. Spiritual Warfare & Tangible Evil

Timestamps: 79:33–82:03

• The group argues that real, spiritual evil is an ever-present force, largely ignored by churches.
• “It’s easy to say evil on earth is just ‘us and our sin’. True. But evil is also a tangible, horrific principality thing.” – Kelsey (79:32)

11. Miraculous Russian Orthodox Story:

Timestamps: 82:16–89:09

• Josh dramatically recounts how, in 1923 Ukraine, a metal crucifix outside a village began to bleed after being shot by USSR enforcers.
  “By evening, 30,000 Christians had gathered around this cross.” – Josh (86:53)
• The miraculous event prompted conversions, resistance to oppression, and reportedly an invisible force preventing authorities from removing the cross.
• “A Jewish doctor tested it—it was blood.” – Josh (87:45)

12. Nazis & Disney: Hans Scharff’s Mosaic Secret

Timestamps: 95:10–100:13

• Andy tells how Hans Scharff, a legendary Nazi interrogator known for ‘kind’ techniques, emigrated to the US, influenced the FBI, and was the artist behind the famous Cinderella Castle mosaics at Disney World.
• “So he wasn’t a Nazi, he was a 'nicey.'” – Josh (100:16)

13. Quick-Fire Riffs and Questions

Timestamps: Throughout

• Highlights include:
  • Debates about scratch–sniff–lick wallpaper vs. landscape windows (60:00–62:28)
  • The perils and poop of Everest expeditions (47:17–51:44)
  • Melania Trump’s “hoo-ya” Navy speech impression (45:41–46:49)
  • Reflections on Les Misérables, arranged marriage, and dangerous prayers (56:11–93:31)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Nazis at the Castle:
  “Literally the whole Cinderella mosaic—his prized piece of art—is by Hans Scharff.” – Andy (99:47)
• On Evil in the World:
  “People forget—we’re fighting against the invisible. The spiritual realm is the primary; we are living in the non-primary.” – Kelsey (80:03)
• Occult Science & History:
  “NASA’s roots are drenched in occult magick...these are the people advancing science!” – Josh (76:29)
• Comedic:
  “I can’t use the bidet in the morning. It’s too cold.” – Josh (05:53)
• On Independence and Food:
  “America, they are trying to poison us!” – Andy (24:32)

Timestamps for Major Segments

• Live Show Chaos: 02:08–05:56
• Immortal Song: 07:15–11:41
• Homeschool Debate: 12:50–16:58
• Restaurant/Food Conspiracy: 24:32–26:47
• Bathtub in the Capitol: 26:49–28:49
• Guy Fieri’s Tequila Heist: 29:00–31:28
• Portland/National Guard: 31:29–36:01
• Fentanyl & Drug Discussion: 37:45–39:54
• Aleister Crowley & Occult Science: 65:30–78:00
• Russian Orthodox Miracle: 82:16–89:09
• Disney/Nazi Art Connection: 95:10–100:13

Overall Tone & Style

• Banter-driven, irreverent, yet sharp on research and connections
• Regular satirical asides and self-referential humor
• Willingness to chase wild tangents, then circle back to thoughtful moments on faith, evil, miracles, and genuine hope

Final Thoughts

Episode 165 delivers the Ninjas Are Butterflies signature cocktail of wild storytelling, conspiracy deep-dives, historical oddities, and black-humor social commentary. The crew’s rapport—mixing earnest faith, gallows jokes, and sharp pop-culture asides—keeps even the creepiest revelations light enough for a comedic podcast audience, while also provoking reflection about the line between history, myth, and the unseen battles that shape our world.