166 - The Buga Sphere, Philip K. Dick, and China’s Sunken Mysteries

Summary

Ninjas Are Butterflies – Episode 166

The Buga Sphere, Philip K. Dick, and China’s Sunken Mysteries

Released: October 31, 2025
Hosts: Josh Hooper, Andy DeNoon, Lily, L

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Episode Overview

This special Halloween episode of Ninjas Are Butterflies is packed with humor, bizarre tales, spooky vibes, and quirky discussions. From the ancient and mysterious Buga Sphere of Colombia, to the sci-fi visions of Philip K. Dick, and the bottomless pits in China, the hosts weave together wild stories and conspiracy theories all with their signature comedic banter. It’s a lively and outrageous journey through pop culture, weird history, spiritual musings, and a fair share of absurdity—plus plenty of dogs and Halloween costumes.

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Table of Contents

1. Spooky Season & Costumes
2. Halloween Song: "These Are The Things That Really Scare Me"
3. Pop Culture Tangents
4. Strange News: Katy Perry, Trudeau, and Exploding Cigars
5. The Buga Sphere Update
6. Alien Encounters & The Strange Night Sky
7. Dog Stories, Fights, & Heroic Pups
8. Traffic Jams in China’s Golden Week
9. Chinese Bottomless Pits: Longyou Caves
10. America’s Dyatlov Pass: The Yuba County Five
11. Philip K. Dick, The Multiverse, and Secret Downloads
12. Morality, Meaning, & Spirituality Debates

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Spooky Costumes & Halloween Vibes (02:12)

• The group opens with Halloween energy: costumes, jokes, and recurring bits about being the Kandahar Giant, British soldiers, and Rosie O’Donnell.

• "Halloween is here, and this is on Halloween—first time ever, the episode drops on Halloween." – Andy (03:17)

• Halloween TV Talk & Salaries:

  • Stranger Things cast pay discussed with wild speculation and actual figures.
  • Friendships, fandom, and childhood stars earning millions.

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Halloween Song: "These Are The Things That Really Scare Me" (10:24)

A highlight of the show—a fully improvised, tongue-in-cheek Halloween song, with Andy and Lily performing verses about their fears.

"Long voice, smells, public speaking and being in the dark
Pasta that moves, Kim Jong Un swimming with the sharks..."
– Andy & Lily (10:40)

Hilarious, disjointed, and true to the podcast’s absurd, friendly tone.

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Pop Culture Tangents (07:04)

• NSYNC, Backstreet Boys Producer Scandal:

  • Lucrative (and shady) music deals, Band rivalries, and the greed of 90s pop moguls.
  • "He started a fake rivalry between the two, and then they found out, 'Oh, you represent both of them.' It was nuts." – Andy (07:26)

• Music Industry Connections:

  • Blur’s singer also created Gorillaz, lived with Gorillaz’ animator, and wanted “a no-face band.”
  • "This guy was a true creative visionary." – L (09:41)

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Strange News: Katy Perry, Trudeau, & Exploding Cigars (19:32)

• Katy Perry & Justin Trudeau: Rumors of them together, connections to political legacies, and conspiracy-theory fun (Castro’s son, etc).
• Exploding Cigars and CIA Plots:
  • "They literally built an exploding cigar. That was an official plan by the CIA." – Andy (21:15)

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The Buga Sphere Update (28:12)

One of the episode’s key segments.

• Origin: Found in Buga, Colombia. Now in hands of Hami Massan (of Mexican “mummy” fame).
• Details:
  • "They did the carbon dating… the resin on this Buga Sphere was 12,560 years old." – Lily (29:54)
  • Made of “aluminum mixed with rare earth metals.”
  • Original weight: 2kg; Now: 10kg. “Not growing, just more dense” – it seems to get heavier.
• Language on the Sphere: Proto-Sanskrit, the oldest known human language.
• Inscribed story: Describes “great oceans moving, the end of one world, the beginning of another”—ancient flood?
• Mystery: The original finder became ill – possibly radiation?
• Skeptics: "It seems fake… but what if that’s what they want us to believe?" – Lily (32:19)
• *Open invitation for scientists to test it, as long as it’s not damaged.

Q: “Why isn’t this bigger news? People can’t explain why it’s getting heavier.” – Andy (32:08)

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Alien Sightings & The Strange Night Sky (33:54)

• An odd, color-pulsing “star” observed by the hosts—possible drone or UFO, but the group can’t debunk it.
• Lily: "I went out the same time these past two nights. Not there." (34:49)

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Dog Stories, Fights, & Heroic Pups (35:34)

• Corgi scares off pit bull.
• Dog fights near kids; chaotic retelling of trying to break up a fight.
• Firefighter cousin’s romance story: Leaping fences to reach a girlfriend after her accident while juggling a hated dog.
• Old man’s dog Eeyore leads police to his missing wife at night (touching viral TikTok story).

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China’s Golden Week Traffic Jam (43:01)

• 36-lane expressway outside Beijing, gridlocked for 24 hours during national “Golden Week.”
• Discussion about modern urban planning, AI-generated traffic video skepticism, and survival strategies for gigantic jams.
• "What would you do, stuck in traffic for a full day?" – Andy (44:33)

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Chinese “Bottomless Pits”: Longyou Caves (68:07)

• 1992 discovery:
  • Villagers believed dozens of ponds were bottomless.
  • A farmer pumps one dry, revealing massive, hand-carved underground caves—24 in total!
• Features:
  • Dates to 200 BCE – 23 CE; Ceilings up to 90ft (30m) high; sandstone construction; ancient carvings and statues ("Cave of the Immortals").
• Mystery:
  • "The vast amount of earth they had to move… No idea where it was put. The caves have been underwater for at least 2,000 years." – Lily (70:12)
• Vibes:
  • Discussions of “watchers,” angels, and potential links to ancient supernatural lore.

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America’s Dyatlov Pass: The Yuba County Five (75:45)

• True crime, missing persons, and strange circumstances:
  • Five male friends disappear after a basketball game in 1978, Yosemite foothills.
  • Car found far off-route, not stuck, plenty of gas, windows down, no keys; heavy snow.
  • Months later:
    • One body found in a service trailer, wrapped in blankets, died of hypothermia and starvation—had food, heat, matches, but never used them.
    • Beard indicates survival for 8–12 weeks. Shoes switched with missing companion’s.
    • Other remains found scattered in wilderness; one man (Gary) never recovered.
• Unsolved: Why did they change course? Why abandon the car? Did something supernatural happen—or a psychotic episode?
• "It's almost more weird than the Dyatlov Pass to me." – Andy (87:40)

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Philip K. Dick: Multiverses, Computer Realities, & Government Surveillance (96:26)

• Author of Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? (Blade Runner), prolific 60s–80s sci-fi visionary.
• 1977: Publicly claims “we are living in a computer programmed reality” (simulation theory before it was cool).
• Claims:
  • “Reality can be altered in subtle ways, not fully replaced.”
  • Inspired elements of multiverse theories and the Mandela Effect; “echoes from another version of reality.”
  • Alleged “pink beam” vision: downloads another reality’s memories, saves his son's life, begins years of “downloads” from VALIS (Vast Active Living Intelligence System).
• Tech he anticipated: Predictive policing, AI, driverless cars, virtual reality, 3D printing, Internet.
• Spooky: CIA and FBI trailed him, raided his house, confiscated documents.
• Musing: AI, demons, Gnostic heresies, and time—"Could it be that those beings have the ability to also deceive/outside of time?" – Josh (109:22)

“If demons and fallen angels can perform miracles, it’s all to deceive.” – Lily (110:28)

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Morality, Meaning, & Spirituality Debates (53:36)

• Discussion of The Diary of a CEO’s debate on faith, atheism, and purpose.
• Key Quote:
  • "Pray that God reveals Himself to you. If you’re looking for meaning with a capital M, invite God into your life and recognize your ultimate meaning in this cosmic reality." – Christian apologist, paraphrased by L (55:53)
• **Hosts reflect on the bleakness of atheistic worldviews, the happiness of the religious, and science “catching up to God.”
• Extended unique observations on oral tradition, remembering, and why New Testament testimony may have more validity than modern skeptics admit.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On predicting the future:
  "A 20th-century author... predicting the future. And guess what? The CIA, they ain't liking it." – Andy (01:00)
• On conspiracy theories:
  "What if that’s what they want us to believe?" – Lily (32:19) "It’s growing in weight. People can’t explain it." – Andy (32:08)
• On spooky season:
  "Happy Halloween. Are you ready for some spooky stories?" – Lily (02:18)
• On the mundane and absurd:
  "Long voice, smells, public speaking and being in the dark... Pasta that moves, Kim Jong Un swimming with the sharks..." – Andy & Lily (10:40)
• On faith and hope:
  "Some people think this life is it, but it’s just a teeny tiny fragment." – Lily (51:22)
• On life’s mysteries:
  "Just looking at the photos, I get a weird vibe. And I’m excellent at picking up vibes. That’s a weird one." – Andy (74:20)

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Episode Tone

Lighthearted, irreverent, and packed with tangents—yet the hosts strike a sincere, thoughtful note when discussing faith, mystery, and loss. They bring the listener along on a journey through real-life puzzles, conspiracies, outrageous theories, and pop culture oddities, underpinned by self-deprecating humor and close camaraderie.

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Timestamps Guide

• Costumes & Halloween banter: 02:12 – 09:07
• Pop culture & music industry tangents: 07:04 – 09:07
• Halloween improvised song: 10:24 – 12:26
• Strange News: Perry/Trudeau & CIA Cigars: 19:32 – 22:23
• Buga Sphere Deep Dive: 28:12 – 33:54
• Alien sightings & the yard: 33:54 – 35:31
• Dog stories: 35:34 – 43:01
• China's traffic nightmare: 43:01 – 47:31
• Chinese bottomless pits: 68:07 – 75:40
• Yuba County Five mystery: 75:45 – 88:29
• Philip K. Dick & reality as simulation: 96:26 – 111:03

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Note: Advertisements, sponsor plugs (Tempo, AG1, Wayfair, Sunday Cool Tees), and additional playful banter were not included in the summary.

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Summary Takeaway

This episode embodies everything that sets Ninjas Are Butterflies apart: it’s an unpredictable, side-splitting odyssey across true crime, ancient mysteries, conspiracy theories, pop culture, faith, and everything in between. Through ghost stories, philosophical ruminations, and the ever-present possibility of alien or supernatural interference, the hosts encourage the listener to keep their mind open, their humor sharp, and to never underestimate the mystery of the world (or a dog’s loyalty) on a spooky Halloween night.

Transcript

[Andy]

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[Josh]

But now you must return to the.

[Andy]

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[Josh]

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[Andy]

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[Josh]

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[Andy]

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[Lily]

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[L]

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[Lily]

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[L]

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[Lily]

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[L]

All rights reserved.

[Andy]

Hey, everybody. There's a 20th century author that's predicting the future. And guess what? The CIA, they ain't liking it in.

[Lily]

These bottomless pits found in China. Well, they're not so bottomless. And they're 2, 000 years old.

[Josh]

And we have new information on the Buga sphere found in Colombia. There are glyphs and what they say you're going to want to find out. Energy.

[L]

Oh, gosh.

[Andy]

Scary.

[Lily]

Do the British accent with your hat on.

[L]

No, no, no, no. And if you're not already super specific spooked, you can't. What is it? What do we say?

[Andy]

It say and trick or treat.

[L]

And then it's what is it?

[Lily]

This podcast.

[L]

And if you're not already so spooked, you can tune in and watch this show at. This is stop.

[Lily]

They've already started.

[Andy]

This is happening. They're all seeing what you're doing right now.

[Lily]

And trick or treat maybe ain't trick or treat. This podcast.

[L]

What is that, like Melania Trump?

[Lily]

Let me go, boo Boo.

[L]

This podcast is brought to you in part by Cindy. Cool. Watch this or listen.

[Lily]

Happy Halloween.

[Andy]

My headphones are already falling off. Oh, spooky season is among us.

[Lily]

Spooky season. Are you ready for some spooky stories, Andy? Who are you?

[Andy]

Rosie o'. Donnell. I'm the Kandahar Giant.

[Lily]

And we are the soldiers that killed you.

[Andy]

Yes.

[L]

No, he killed us.

[Lily]

He killed some of us. Definitely you. Why are you dressed like a British officer?

[L]

That's a question for you.

[Josh]

You.

[L]

You gave this to me when I came in.

[Andy]

You ordered it.

[Lily]

You ordered that. You said.

[Andy]

We said, be a soldier.

[Lily]

Be a soldier. And that's what you came as.

[L]

Oh, I didn't do that. You guys did that. Throw me those Reeses. Would You.

[Lily]

They're literally closer to you.

[L]

I'm strapped. I'm locked in, dude. It's under my hat.

[Josh]

Where's the rest of your uniform, soldier?

[Lily]

Can they see your spear? The one that you impaled us with?

[Josh]

Yeah, it's in frame.

[Andy]

I don't know why my giant always goes, adam Sandler.

[Lily]

I'm the friendly giant. Halloween is here. This is on Halloween. The first.

[Andy]

First time it's ever dropped on Halloween.

[Lily]

That's pretty cool.

[Andy]

So stinking cool. Another four years. Another four years, baby.

[Lily]

Very spooky. Very spooky.

[Andy]

I love Halloween. I'm watching Stranger Things for the first time ever.

[Josh]

Let's go.

[Andy]

It's getting me in the spooky feel.

[Lily]

I looked up how much they're all paid.

[Andy]

Whoa.

[Lily]

Crazy.

[Josh]

I actually, I don't know.

[Lily]

The kids. All the four kids.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

They were each paid. Oh, crap. What was it? I think a million.

[L]

Oh, my gosh. Per season?

[Lily]

No, for the season.

[L]

An episode.

[Andy]

Andy, look at friends. You don't think they were paid $1 million an episode?

[L]

Just a million dollars.

[Andy]

Like in the final season, it was $1 million an episode.

[Lily]

It was like, they're still like making that.

[Andy]

Dude, what a score.

[Lily]

But it was. Who's the. The cop?

[Josh]

Hopper.

[Lily]

He. Him and the mom are the highest paid.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

And of course, yeah.

[Lily]

I think they're both like. It's like four point something million.

[Josh]

Just for the season.

[Lily]

The season that's thought.

[Josh]

It's like more than that. Honestly.

[Lily]

I could be wrong.

[Andy]

That's the thing. Like, you just. You're on a hit show like that. They can't just recast you.

[L]

I know.

[Andy]

You have all the power in that way.

[Lily]

That was right.

[Andy]

It's crazy.

[Josh]

No, no, no. I'm agreeing with him.

[Lily]

I'm right.

[Andy]

No, they got paid 50 bucks that episode.

[Lily]

Dang.

[Andy]

Dang.

[Lily]

I have a headache.

[Andy]

Why?

[L]

Too much candy?

[Lily]

No, not too much candy.

[Andy]

Too much trick or treating. Ding dong.

[Lily]

It's these live shows. They're killing me.

[Andy]

Stop it. It's a week ago, dude. Don't use that as an excuse.

[Lily]

They aged me drastically, for sure. And I loved meeting everyone. Truly, I really did.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

But someone was carrying a sickness and they made me sick. I'm sick.

[Andy]

All those hundreds of people you shook hands with. One person had really sweaty hands.

[Lily]

You said, yeah, God bless him.

[Andy]

But nothing better than a.

[Josh]

Or her.

[Andy]

Sweaty. Yeah.

[Lily]

Or her. Not going to say who. But I shook their hand and it was cold and really wet and I go, ah.

[Andy]

Are you dead?

[Lily]

What's wrong with you?

[Andy]

You dead right now. I shaking the hands of a dead man.

[Lily]

What if they were? What if I really shook hands with, like, a dead person?

[Andy]

It was probably a witch or something.

[L]

The Count of Saint Germain.

[Andy]

Oh.

[L]

Oh, that would be crazy. One time I met someone spear you, Dude, I met someone one time. We were having conversation and she spit in my mouth by accident like a loogie.

[Lily]

Oh, I remember that.

[L]

I went. It's like taking a bullet.

[Andy]

Just go underneath, like the hand washing station.

[Josh]

All right, you ready for the totals?

[Andy]

Let's hear it.

[Josh]

11 for the entire show. So this is all the seasons.

[Lily]

Oh, all the seasons.

[Josh]

So. Which is a little different, but it's 12 and a half million. And then Jim Hopper, 17. Winona Ryder is 18. And then the. The other cast that everyone knows is somewhere in the ballpark of 11 million each.

[L]

Oh, my gosh.

[Andy]

What do you do? How does that work? As a kid, you're making millions of dollars. It's like that just waiting for you to.

[Josh]

I think that's how it works.

[Andy]

You get older.

[L]

You do things with lawyers and your parents and stuff like that. But like with Britney Spears, her dad keeping everything because he said she was mentally ill or something.

[Andy]

Have you ever heard the story of NSYNC and Bass Street Boys? The guy that created that, the producer?

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Oh, my gosh, that dude. They got paid, like, their first couple years of being together as a band only made, like, less than 50 grand a person. Yeah, the dude was making millions on that.

[L]

Oh, my gosh, people. Does your greed have no end?

[Andy]

Dude, it's crazy. The guy went to prison and everything. Everything. It's a crazy story. It's a long story, but I didn't.

[Josh]

Realize that same person produced both acts.

[Andy]

He literally just wanted to start producing music, and so he created. I can't remember which one was first. I think it was in sync. No, it was Backstreet Boys first. And then he just had so much popularity, and then he created the other one, and then he started a fake rivalry between the two. They're like, yeah, they hate you. They hate you. And then they found out, oh, you represent both of them. It's nuts. It was crazy.

[L]

Copy paste. Like, what is the distinction between either of them?

[Andy]

Well, I mean, one has I want it that way. And has by one. Other has Bye, bye, bye. Which one's better?

[Lily]

I just found out. I told you. The guy who. You're threatening to me.

[Andy]

Okay, sure.

[Lily]

The guy who was the lead singer, Blur, which I didn't know about Blur.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Lily]

Popular band, especially in the uk. The song that goes. Oh, woohoo.

[Josh]

Yep.

[L]

What are even the words there?

[Lily]

That guy is the singer for the Gorillaz.

[L]

Did you know that?

[Josh]

Nope.

[Andy]

Singer and creator, Right?

[Lily]

Singer and creator.

[Andy]

Crazy.

[L]

He was living. He was roommates with the animator that made the cartoon.

[Andy]

That is wild, man.

[Lily]

He was just fed up with the show of the music industry. He's like, I'm going to make a band, a no face band where it's literally just animated gorillas.

[Andy]

Takes the pressure off. You do?

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Concerts got to be weird.

[L]

This guy was a true creative visionary.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

What is happening to me?

[Andy]

It's all coming back to me.

[Lily]

It's all coming back. Alrighty.

[Andy]

I'm feeling musical today. What about you?

[Lily]

Yeah, well, yeah.

[Andy]

Like he was in the middle of your head.

[L]

Me? Yeah.

[Andy]

Yes.

[L]

I saw a video yesterday. I showed it to Josh. It was a girl putting mayonnaise on her sandwich. Did you see this sandwich in her hands? Can't put the mayonnaise. It's like not working. I said, that's me. And someone's comment was like, first day with your new hands. I see. Literally me.

[Lily]

She also licked the mayonnaise before putting it on.

[L]

Yeah, well, that part was weird. I don't do that.

[Andy]

Yeah, lick it all on the butter. I mean, the butter knife. Yeah, lick it off and then put it back in.

[Lily]

No, no, she like. She got a big thing and she like, liked a little bit and then try to put it on.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

When I was clean it off afterwards. Sure. But.

[Lily]

But you said you could eat Dukes by itself, right?

[Andy]

Dude, I do. Like every time I'm cooking with like anything, like with grilled cheese or something. If I have sea sliced cheese, just a dab of Duke's mayo. It's the only mayonnaise that I could do it with.

[Lily]

I can't do it.

[Andy]

Duke's is insane. I didn't have it until I went down to Florida and it's literally changed the trajectory of my life.

[L]

It's really good.

[Lily]

You know what's really bad is when you go to someone's house and they're like, hey, can I make you a sandwich? And they're like, yeah, sure.

[Andy]

And.

[Lily]

And then they put miracle wood.

[Andy]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Josh]

Why is there sugar in my mayonnaise, Dude?

[Lily]

No, thanks.

[Andy]

No, thank you. Why? Stop it.

[Lily]

You want a song?

[Andy]

It's so flimsy. Look at this thing.

[Lily]

All right, let's see what we can come up with.

[Josh]

All right.

[Lily]

Okay.

[Andy]

Long voice, smells, public speaking and being in the dark. Pasta that moves Kim Jong Un swimming.

[Lily]

With the sharks Haunted mayor's Communists in Bradley Cooper's face Eye contact Cars made of spiders and drones in my airspace these are the things that really scare.

[Andy]

Me these are the things that make.

[Lily]

Me wanna be My pants I wanna let you know so please lend me.

[Andy]

Your ear As I tell you all.

[Lily]

The things that fill me with fear.

[Andy]

Colts in malls Teeth and smoothies Mannequins that blank AI girlfriend's grocery robots Two straws in my drink Moon conspiracies Meat.

[Lily]

That screams in the priest that knows my name Wormholes in my pantry door to me it's all the same.

[Josh]

That was my fault.

[Andy]

These are the things that really scare me these are the things that make.

[Lily]

Me wanna be My pants I wanna.

[Andy]

Let you know so please land me in here As I tell you all the things that fill me with fear I said these stars are these things that fill me with fear dude, we nailed it. Dude.

[Josh]

Wow.

[Andy]

That was really scary.

[Josh]

That might be the one worst take I've ever done on the guitar.

[L]

I thought it was great. You guys did so good.

[Lily]

I thought it was.

[Josh]

As soon as you started.

[Andy]

I forgot how it started.

[Lily]

I was like, well, you reminded me right before. I'm like, okay. That's how it goes.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Oh, but we have fun.

[Andy]

We have a good time.

[Lily]

Yeah. But unfortunately, it is spooky season. With spooky season comes not fun season. Boo.

[Josh]

Sorry.

[Lily]

We have a question today. Are we ready? Andy?

[Andy]

We're ready.

[Lily]

Today's question. It scares me.

[Andy]

Of course.

[Lily]

It should scare each and every one of us.

[Andy]

I'm already. Consider my timbers shivered.

[Lily]

Yes. I'll just get on with it. I'll get on with our Halloween question. Today's question, sent in by your Lily. What's behind you?

[L]

What do you mean? What do you mean?

[Andy]

What's behind what is that behind you?

[Lily]

Right there, Lil, it's right there.

[Andy]

Lily, look at it.

[Lily]

Lil, it's right there. Watch the camera, but don't freak out. What's behind you?

[Andy]

What is that? I don't even know what. Lily, what is that?

[Lily]

Lil, no one can see you.

[Andy]

Just tell us what that thing is.

[Lily]

What is it?

[Andy]

Weird.

[Lily]

What is it a spider web?

[Andy]

Oh, is that spider. Oh, my God.

[Lily]

Oh, my gosh.

[Andy]

It was a spider.

[Lily]

It was a spider web.

[Andy]

That's crazy. My bad.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[L]

Anybody else?

[Lily]

No, we're good.

[Andy]

That's a good question, though.

[Lily]

The real question, though.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Sitting by a viewer.

[Andy]

Yeah. So I'll take a deep breath. I think you're on edge, dude.

[Lily]

I am the real question sitting by a viewer.

[Josh]

Who'd you vote for?

[L]

Oh, gosh.

[Andy]

Oh, my gosh. What is that? Yes. That worked perfect, sir. That was awesome.

[Josh]

Well done, boy. All right.

[Lily]

Well, I guess you guys heard it here first. L voted for liberal.

[Josh]

Just kidding.

[Lily]

Welcome to the show. Did I say ninja?

[L]

I meant butterfly.

[Lily]

The butterfly is no doubt one of God's most beautiful.

[Andy]

As an empty your mind, you learn martial arts. Ninjas, attack. You know what I love, Josh?

[Lily]

I don't know. Eating.

[Andy]

You know what? You're right. But the thing is, we're busy. We've got school, we've got trips, we got activities going on all the time. And I don't have time to actually make great meals all of the time as well.

[Josh]

Same.

[Lily]

It's either I'm too busy so I skip a meal or I just end up ordering takeout.

[Andy]

I just wish there was a place I could get meals that are balanced, that are fresh, that are actually good for me and can be ready within minutes.

[Lily]

Wait a second, Andy. I think you're describing our sponsor right now.

[Andy]

Hold on. Are you talking about Tempo?

[Lily]

I sure am, Andy. Tempo is the best. They're the best. All their food is chef prepared and it's healthy for you.

[Andy]

I've also heard that they're dietitian approved and even were the sponsors of the 2025 CrossFit Games. And those guys are legit.

[Josh]

Yep.

[Lily]

And they're perfectly portioned for lunch or dinner, delivered to your door and ready in just two minutes.

[Andy]

That's insane. And I'm also so glad because every single week they have 20 new recipes that they drop in their meals. And they're packed with 30 grams of protein, they're rich in fiber, and they're calorie and carb consist.

[Lily]

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[Andy]

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[Lily]

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[Andy]

Temple meals.com forward slash ninjas. Rules and restrictions may apply.

[Lily]

Thanks, Tempo Landy. Apparently we're becoming health guys.

[Andy]

Not apparently, Josh, because AG1 guess what? They just sent us this big old box and they're sponsoring today's episode. Super Food Powder that's gonna change our bodies. Because we've been mistreating them for our whole life. But guess what? We're trying it. We love it and we're taking it, and we're changing and transforming into better human beings.

[Lily]

They say one scoop is 75 vitamins, minerals, probiotics. Basically everything we've been ignoring since the day we were born.

[Andy]

It's like the multivitamin for people who don't know what a multivitamin is.

[Lily]

They've got clinical trials, gold standard studies, and all the fancy science stuff behind it.

[Andy]

And now listen, Josh, you know, I don't really believe in science and all that, but I believe these AG1 guys get it all figured out, because this stuff is delicious.

[Lily]

It sure is delicious, Andy. In fact, they got all these flavors now. Tropical berry, citrus, and original. All the flavors that make you feel like a hundred bucks.

[Andy]

And now we just recently started AG1, so look forward to it in the near future for us to be more shredded, to be more enlightened and more smarter.

[Lily]

I mean, it's clinically proven to help with your gut health. What can you. What more can you ask for? And I. You know, me, I need some gut health because your boy be pooping all the time. I got some bad gut health.

[Andy]

So if you want to join us on our journey of transformation, head to drink ag1.comninjas to get a free welcome kit, a bottle of vitamin d, and free AG1 travel packs when you subscribe.

[Lily]

That's drinkag1.com forward/ninjas.

[Andy]

Let's get healthy together.

[Lily]

Let's do it.

[Josh]

I'm ready for that gut health, y'.

[L]

All.

[Lily]

I'm ready to get my poopies in order.

[Andy]

Amen to that. Order to the car.

[Josh]

The AG one is Tommy Poopy.

[Lily]

No more poopy. Get better.

[Andy]

And those are scientific terms. Pretty good.

[Lily]

What flavor?

[Andy]

I think it's just the original.

[Lily]

Thank you, AG1.

[L]

Who did that?

[Andy]

That was O'.

[Lily]

Shea.

[Andy]

Thank you, O'.

[Lily]

Shea.

[L]

That was in this room.

[Lily]

No, we told him to hit the.

[L]

He literally.

[Andy]

No, he's in the wall right now.

[Lily]

That is so.

[L]

I didn't even know you could reach that wall.

[Josh]

That's so.

[Andy]

That's right. Where all, like, we have all, like, the health stuff and everything, like the state government posters. And I told him we figured out the exact location. I said, hit here and here and bang as hard as you can for like four or five times.

[Lily]

Dude, that was a good screen.

[Andy]

That was great.

[L]

I was scared. You got one of those things that go like. I thought it was gonna get me.

[Josh]

Dude, the cup spilled too. That was crazy.

[Lily]

What?

[Andy]

Yeah, that was perfect. The lead up to it, then bringing you down and everything's Fine. And that's only. Right back at it.

[Lily]

Oh, man. Scary, spooky stuff. What? You guys see those new photos of Katy Perry and her new boyfriend?

[L]

What are you talking about?

[Lily]

Justin Trudeau.

[Andy]

Oh, is it official now?

[Lily]

I mean, they're smooching on our yacht.

[Andy]

Oh, you gross PDA guys.

[Lily]

Yeah, Perry, don't. She left Orlando Bloom. I mean, for Justin Trudeau.

[Andy]

I mean, if he was still the prime minister, I would get it.

[Josh]

But he's not.

[Andy]

But he's not, though.

[Lily]

He's not.

[Andy]

And Justin. But the thing is, Justin Trudeau does love Halloween. There's photo proof of that online.

[L]

What's interesting is.

[Andy]

Look up. Just look up Justin Trudeau Halloween. You'll get it.

[Josh]

Yeah, it's a perfect.

[L]

I guess a relative of Justin Trudeau is Pierre Trudeau, and he used to date Barbara Streisand.

[Lily]

Oh, wow.

[L]

They got a thing for the famous, famous people.

[Lily]

Did we talk about. We have A long time ago how the theory that Justin Trudeau's Fidel Castro sign.

[Andy]

I think we have. Yeah.

[Lily]

Screaming hurt my throat, dude.

[Andy]

Do you guys. We've. Have we ever talked about Fidel Castro and the exploding cigar? No, this happened like, in, like, when did he. When did he. Dude, not too long ago. The CIA was trying to just basically take out Fidel Castro.

[L]

We know this. Yes.

[Andy]

And they. The one thing they for sure knew about him is that that dude smoked cigars 24 7. So they literally built an exploding cigar that they would somehow put in his office. And that was the plan. I don't know how it got nixed or didn't happen, but that's literally, like, on documents. That is. Was an official plan by the CIA.

[Lily]

That's the good old play from, like.

[Andy]

The Looney Tunes, Wiley Coyote stuff.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

It blows up. It sprays out in the face is all black.

[Josh]

What would your item be if someone was planning to get you?

[Andy]

That's a good question.

[Josh]

Yeah, that is a good question.

[Lily]

Probably the toilet. They could easily kill me.

[Andy]

They put a bullet in the tushy. Mine would chew it up and spit it back out. Dude, you just hear a tank in the bottom of the toilet. Oh, that'd be good. I don't know. Probably just a bottle of Mountain Dew. Like, I'm so, like, rhythmic with, like, the gas station stuff. They're like, we know he's going to be there. We know the wrong one.

[Josh]

Just a slim gym.

[Lily]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you probably be like a ball of yarn or something.

[L]

No, not every day.

[Lily]

Every day. Look at right beside You.

[L]

I'm habitual about my coffee.

[Lily]

That's true.

[Andy]

A knitting needle that explodes.

[L]

Wow.

[Andy]

Or like, like, electrocutes you so you.

[L]

Can'T let go of it.

[Andy]

And we're all just laughing at you. Like, look at Lily's impersonation right now. She's doing great. You're like.

[Lily]

Speaking of being electrocuted.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Do you guys see that summit. Was it summit for peace thing that Trump was.

[Andy]

Yeah. I don't know anything about it, though. What happened.

[Josh]

I keep seeing stuff where, like, he sounds like he himself is of the Jewish faith.

[Lily]

Yeah. I mean, he's definitely. He said on that state or. No, he. So he went to Israel.

[Josh]

Yep.

[Lily]

To basically celebrate with him the exchange.

[Josh]

Of hostages, which I'm excited about.

[Lily]

Super awesome. But then right after that, he flew to, I think, Egypt. Think it was Egypt. Where 20. Over 20 nations. No, 20 nations, including the US came to sign a peace treaty.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

It was October 13th when that happened. And Trump's quote from it was on stage. He said, took 3,000 years to get to this point. Can you believe it? And it's going to hold up. It's going to hold up.

[Andy]

It's got to hold up.

[L]

3,000 years since what?

[Lily]

Since, I guess all these nations came together and signed a peace deal.

[Josh]

Oh.

[Lily]

Which is a little like Bible prophecy to me.

[Andy]

But no.

[Josh]

I don't know.

[Andy]

What are the odds of that happening?

[L]

What does that mean? Like, is this ceasefire hopefully permanent?

[Lily]

This is. This is what I'm saying. It. I think it was just a facade, honestly, because originally Trump invited Netanyahu, Prime Minister of Israel, and then Turkey's like, if he's coming, I'm not coming.

[L]

Yeah.

[Lily]

And so then they kind of like, uninvited Netanyahu. So it's like. Well, then that's not really peaceful, is it?

[L]

No.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[L]

Well, yeah. I mean, like, everybody still mad.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[L]

Stuff still needs to be reconciled.

[Lily]

Cut on your net. There you go.

[Josh]

You got a piece.

[Lily]

But, yeah.

[Andy]

Yeah, but the. Update me with the whole, like, there was fugitive hostages.

[Lily]

Yeah. Being let go from Israel and Hamas. They. They got exchanged all of their hostages because for the past two years, it's been like, one here, one there.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

But then they signed this ceasefire agreement and I'm pretty sure they've. Both sides have. May have broken that by now, but they exchanged all their hostages, like, over 20 for Israel and something like that.

[Andy]

Geez.

[Lily]

Pretty big.

[Andy]

Yeah. That's huge.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

I don't know anything about.

[L]

A lot of people died, though. A lot of people died.

[Andy]

Of course. Yeah.

[L]

That's terrible thing.

[Andy]

It's awful.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

A little too late.

[L]

Yeah. There was. I remember when it originally happened, there was a story of a dad and his 8 year old was taken. Died immediately.

[Andy]

Goodness gracious.

[Josh]

Don't like that. Terrible business.

[Andy]

Any of those videos is terrible.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

We should go into the business of war.

[Lily]

Make a lot of money.

[Andy]

We would.

[Lily]

We would.

[Andy]

Golly, I hadn't even thought about that.

[Lily]

Yeah. Right before this, I was watching a video on the. I forget his name, but he's the inventor of the Oculus.

[Andy]

Sure. Yeah.

[Lily]

I've talked about before. He now started his own defense company.

[Josh]

Yep.

[Lily]

Making all the AI weaponry.

[Andy]

Cool.

[Josh]

Mullet guy.

[Lily]

Yeah, yeah, I did. This guy who did the video did a great job explaining it all. But do you know he sold Oculus to Facebook for $2 billion at 21 years old.

[Josh]

Yep, bro.

[Andy]

He created it.

[Lily]

He created the Oculus that young. Yeah.

[Andy]

That's wild.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

$2 billion.

[Josh]

Because wasn't it in its earliest concepts, wasn't it basically just like two lenses and then a screen? Like, it wasn't like the entire infrastructure for how it was used wasn't completely established yet. And I could be. I think. I'm not entirely sure.

[Lily]

Software technology behind it.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Lily]

So Facebook really wanted to have.

[Josh]

Interesting. So he did develop all of that. Okay.

[Lily]

Yeah. But now his new company, which is the name of Aragon Sword.

[Josh]

Oh, man, I'm a bad fan.

[Andy]

Oh, Turition A. I think it's.

[Lily]

Yeah. Tyrisha Nay. Turisha Mahardna.

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah, that's it.

[Lily]

I think it's a. Was it Iridociclitis?

[L]

What is it? It's on the tip of my tongue.

[Josh]

The guy's name is Palmer Lucky.

[Lily]

Palmer Lucky, Cool name.

[L]

Oh, my gosh. Cool kid.

[Andy]

I forgive him for all doing all that military stuff now selling weapons.

[Lily]

You just type in Aragon Sword name.

[Josh]

It's literally. The Internet froze it, like, won't reload the page.

[Andy]

Panicking kids. I'm not.

[Josh]

I'm. I searched that.

[Lily]

I searched it.

[Andy]

It snaps his phone and app.

[Josh]

Like, look, it's. I'm just blank screen. Oh.

[Lily]

Doesn't want to let us know. But Brisinger.

[L]

Brisinger.

[Lily]

Those are with an A. I thought I did too.

[L]

This is not familiar to me.

[Josh]

Andoril.

[Lily]

What is it?

[Josh]

Anduril.

[Lily]

Anduril.

[L]

I wouldn't say that. Oh, I'm. This is Eragon the dragon from that. That dragon book.

[Andy]

Yeah, elementary school. I used to read that.

[Lily]

But I thought it was interesting how he named his Company. Was it Anderen?

[Josh]

Andoril.

[Lily]

Anduril. Eragon Sword. But some of his staff or his board of directors for his company are from Palantir.

[L]

Oh, boy.

[Lily]

Of course, also Lord of the Ring reference.

[L]

It is.

[Lily]

So I'm like, what did we do?

[Andy]

Is it really?

[Lily]

Yeah, it's that ball.

[Josh]

The little stones are not accounted for.

[Andy]

That's here.

[L]

That's not just a Lord of the Rings thing, though. I think that's like a occult thing, though, too.

[Andy]

Like, it came from something. Right.

[L]

Like, a crystal ball is called a Palantir period. Like that system.

[Lily]

Oh, is it?

[L]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Okay. But, yeah, I thought that was crazy stuff like that.

[Andy]

But then you have the NASA being with, like, the Greek gods and stuff, like Greek mythology, telling you.

[Lily]

It's all weird.

[Andy]

It's all super weird. It's like, you can literally. I know I made this point before, but you can just make up names.

[Lily]

Yeah. You could just make up new stuff, like the bugasphere. Speaking of the bugasphere.

[Andy]

What?

[Lily]

There's a video from Hami.

[Josh]

Or.

[Lily]

Sorry, yeah. Is it Hami Massan? Tommy Masson. He's the guy that's basically the Mexican. He's the one with the. The mummies. Yeah.

[Josh]

Do we still believe those?

[L]

Wait, the fake one or. Like, who is this?

[Lily]

Both.

[L]

Okay.

[Lily]

Yeah. But Jesse Michaels went and interviewed him and stuff when he was down there.

[Andy]

Cool.

[Lily]

Yeah. And the. Was it the. What are the mummies called? Golly, I'm blinking. So it's the.

[Josh]

I. I don't know. Golly. I'm blanking.

[Andy]

Same dude.

[Lily]

It doesn't matter. The mummies don't matter, homie. Mason.

[Andy]

Mummies don't matter.

[Lily]

But apparently when this comes out, I don't know when it was. What's today? October 14th?

[Josh]

This whole story. I love it.

[Lily]

Yesterday, he came out with a live video from Mexico City talking more about the bugasphere. Because he's in control of the bugasphere and him.

[Josh]

And.

[Lily]

I'm so mad that I did not write any names down. I'm blanking.

[Andy]

Do you need time to research it real quick?

[Lily]

No, but they did the carbon dating on the bugasphere, and there was, like, this resin on the bugasphere, and they took samples of it. They brought it to the University of Georgia where they ran tests and stuff. And the test came back that the resin on this buga sphere was 12,560 years old.

[Andy]

Really?

[Lily]

That's what it said.

[Andy]

Sure. We know. That's all correct all the time.

[Lily]

Yeah. And they said the makeup of the ball was aluminum mixed with rare earth metals.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Lily]

So just a weird thing.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

But he said when he first got the bugasphere, it weighed 2 kilos. And he says today it weighs 10 kilos.

[Andy]

What.

[L]

What is a bugasphere?

[Josh]

We talked about this thing.

[L]

It's the Spooky Critter.

[Josh]

It's. No, it's a.

[Lily]

The set. They found it in Buga, Colombia.

[L]

I remember.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

When I saw it, I was like a booger.

[L]

Oh, yeah.

[Lily]

This part. I.

[Andy]

How is it growing?

[Lily]

It's not growing. It's just becoming more dense.

[Andy]

That's what I'm saying. Like. But, like, it's growing in weight.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

That's bonkers.

[Lily]

Yeah. And he. This is what's cool about Hami, right? I hope I'm saying his name right. Yeah, it's like Jamie, but the Spanish version.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Ami.

[Andy]

Amy.

[Lily]

Ami.

[Andy]

Ami.

[Lily]

He said any scientists, any credible scientists, they're allowed to come and examine the bugasphere and take, test or do tests, samples, as long as they don't damage the boogersphere. So he's. Oh, it's an open invitation. But apparently I saw from this guy on TikTok, hallucination hippies, which.

[Andy]

Very credible.

[Lily]

Take it or leave it. But he said that with that video, which I couldn't watch the whole video, but they talk about. They were able to decode some of the stuff. The language that's on glass. Yeah, on the thing. And they said that it is proto Sanskrit, which is the oldest known language in human civilization.

[Andy]

Weird again.

[Lily]

But it said that it apparently tells a story from 12,560 years ago.

[L]

Wow.

[Lily]

And it talked about these great oceans moving in the end of one world, in the beginning of another world.

[Josh]

Interesting.

[Andy]

Sounds familiar.

[Josh]

A little familiar.

[Andy]

Familiar.

[L]

What are you talking about?

[Lily]

It's just the flood.

[L]

I was gonna say Pangea.

[Andy]

You don't even know about Panji.

[L]

Don't even know about png.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

So that's crazy.

[Lily]

Take it or leave it.

[Andy]

That. I mean, there's so many just nuts things about it. I mean, I don't understand why that's not bigger news too. Because it's like it's growing in weight.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

People can't explain it.

[Lily]

It's a weird one.

[Andy]

I don't know how to trust it.

[Lily]

It's like. I don't know. This seems. It seems fake. Yeah, but what if that's like what they're like, want us to believe?

[Andy]

Sure.

[Lily]

Yeah. Guys, it's fake.

[Josh]

Guys.

[Andy]

Nuts also. He's missing now it's weird, right?

[Lily]

But apparently the guy that first found it in Colombia, who brought it to Hami when he was handling it and stuff, he got super sick from it. Like. Like a radiation kind of sick.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Josh]

It was just filled with like a helium. And as it loses gas, it's getting heavier.

[Andy]

Interesting.

[Josh]

Take Andrew just breathing in gas.

[Andy]

What if it sucked the fat out of him? That's why he weighs 10 pounds heavier now. Took all of his organs.

[Lily]

Maybe forget about Ozempic.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Get yourself a booger sphere.

[Andy]

Oh, you on that bugas.

[Lily]

Yeah. So interesting developing.

[Andy]

Let's get one of our own booger spheres.

[Lily]

We should. That'd be a cool light fixture.

[Josh]

It would.

[Andy]

It would be perfect. Just a table weight. The next day it just bust through the table.

[Lily]

So the bugasphere, it's old, it's ancient.

[Andy]

Scary, and it's 100 real.

[Lily]

So. 100% real.

[Andy]

Confirmed here first. And the hallucinogenic hippies or whatever they were.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

So. Yeah, that's all I got.

[Andy]

Well, that's the alien stuff, dude. We just need to keep figuring out these aliens because one day we're just going to have to have what's his face and just bring in an orb in here. Yeah, yeah, Bledsoe. Yeah, just bring them in. Just talk. We just need to have a conversation with an orb. That's all I'm asking.

[Lily]

That'd be scary. I will say.

[L]

I would say.

[Andy]

I sitting right next to Lily on.

[L]

The couch, I rebuke you.

[Lily]

I will say I pee out in our front yard every night when I let the dogs out. Everyone knows that, dude, same time every night. And it was the other night. Remember seeing that star? Yeah, dude, this star was boom. Right there and it was flashing like.

[Andy]

What was this?

[Lily]

Red, blue, white. Red, blue, white. It was like.

[L]

I'm not convinced it wasn't an airplane.

[Josh]

When was it?

[Lily]

And I came out 10 minutes later and still in the same spot.

[Andy]

When was this?

[Lily]

Two, three nights ago?

[L]

Yeah, this week.

[Andy]

Not a helicopter?

[Lily]

No. Cuz I came out 10 minutes and it was right there just going.

[Josh]

There's a ninja fan who for sure was floating a drone.

[Lily]

No, dude, this thing was far off. It was huge.

[L]

And I did this. And Josh said, don't do that.

[Josh]

Just do this. Come dare wave at it.

[Andy]

It's not welcome here.

[Lily]

Then I went out the same time these past two nights. Not there.

[Andy]

Not there. What if it could have been a drone?

[Josh]

That's what I'm saying.

[L]

I don't think a helicopter or Something.

[Andy]

Why?

[Josh]

The.

[Lily]

Why, It's. I was, like, literally measuring it in between the branches, and it was right in between the branches.

[L]

Josh, you know what? I believe you.

[Lily]

Thank you.

[Andy]

Just completely 180.

[L]

I have to say, you guys don't have a unique experience. You guys all go in the yard and go pee while you let the dogs out. You're no better than the dogs.

[Andy]

When have I ever said I was? When have I ever claimed that I was better than a dog? I wish I was as good as my dog.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

It's the. My role model to be that loyal, to be that fun, to be that athletic.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Come on. Goal.

[Josh]

Dude. Lilo attacked the neighborhood pit bull today. I've never been more proud of my little dog.

[Andy]

Oh, nice.

[Josh]

Yeah. She didn't get through the fence, but the dog was trying to get into ours, and Tucker was, like, all nervous about it. And my little 20 pound corgi with the world's loudest bark literally sent the pit bull running. I was like, well, dang.

[Andy]

A lot of people are saying corgis are the new pit bulls.

[Lily]

They do say that. I have heard that.

[Andy]

Do not trust them.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Ever.

[Lily]

My dog's gotten a big fight a.

[L]

Couple days ago with each other.

[Lily]

With each other. And.

[Andy]

But they were argumentative or.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[L]

It was possessive that Josh's mom, Mumsy, has a dog named Oliver. English, cream corner. Very cute.

[Andy]

Very cute.

[L]

He is a hot commodity amongst the dogs. And he was laying.

[Lily]

They love to love him.

[L]

He's laying there like this, on his back like this. And it was literally. This is how I described it. It was like the archangel Michael and Satan fighting over Moses's body because Oliver's like this on the ground. Dutch is here. Frank is here. They're going at each other. Dutch is protecting Oliver from Frank.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[L]

This menace.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[L]

Then they get in this fight over.

[Lily]

By Jane, like, right on Jane's back.

[Andy]

Oh, no. Why is it always around the kid.

[Lily]

Like that?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Like the bad guy.

[Andy]

Yeah. The ones that you hear and you start running towards it.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Something's about to go down.

[Lily]

Lily goes, and she's trying to push the dogs, which you never should want.

[Josh]

To, like, touch the dogs to bite.

[L]

But I didn't want. They were gonna touch Jane.

[Lily]

I know. And so I ran over there and I just. Trying to protect Jane, but I kicked Frank as hard as I could.

[L]

Well, first of all, you use me as a catapult. You did jump and leap. You put your hand on me and you pushed up so you could get some air into that Kick.

[Andy]

Way to support your husband.

[L]

I was awesome. I was a catapult.

[Andy]

That's great.

[Josh]

And for the listeners, you have to understand, Frank weighs 180 pounds.

[L]

He's ginormous.

[Lily]

Huge. This is what I'm getting to. I kicked him as hard as I could, and it was like kicking a brick wall. It instantly destroyed my ankle and didn't even move. Frank.

[L]

Frank. And he did not register whatsoever.

[Lily]

And so I just. I shoved them to get them away from Jane and then they stopped. But.

[Josh]

And before anyone calls, you know, animal welfare, Josh has super bad knees. So as hard as he can kick, not very hard.

[Andy]

And also they just put him down. So there's nothing you can do.

[L]

Yeah, no, we didn't.

[Lily]

No. Frank is my homeboy.

[L]

Yeah.

[Lily]

I love Frank.

[L]

I love Frank.

[Andy]

He knows that too.

[L]

Blinded by lust, that Frank.

[Josh]

We know that. But I feel like if you're listening in a dog person, like, wow, this guy's like really bad to his dog.

[Lily]

No, Anyone would kick their dog if they're fighting right on top of their kid.

[L]

A two year old. Yeah, she's gonna get. Something's gonna happen to her.

[Andy]

We saw one time there was this just strange dog that had come up and we were at a friend's house and it was like the strange dog had come up and started attacking their old family dog. Like the most innocent dog in the world starts going after it and would not. I think it was a pit bull or something. Something crazy. And it was like a blue healer mix or something. It was crazy hunting dog that was like going wild and they would not break it up. And so this guy who's like 6 foot 4, goes out there screaming and yelling. Old man grabs this big blue healer by like the back of the butt, right behind the neck. And literally I. It was at night and I just saw like the moon was behind him. It was like the most like, wildish thing. Just picks up the dog and lifts it over his head and just.

[L]

Wow.

[Andy]

And I was like, that's crazy.

[L]

Dude, I have another dog story for you. Time. Really?

[Josh]

Let's go.

[L]

Okay. We went to go visit Josh's grandmother and their family this past weekend. And his cousin Griffin is a firefighter, which is like a family thing. Like, your grandfather was a volunteer firefighter. And like, Griffin's doing it so cool. He's like, literally.

[Andy]

They know Griffin. He was on.

[L]

Oh, yeah, true. He's like literally a hero.

[Andy]

Yeah, he's awesome.

[L]

He just got married to a NICU nurse named Celia. They're literally, literally so heroic. These two. And I guess when they started dating, she told me the story. I didn't realize they had just started dating. He went to her apartment to walk her dog. He hated this dog.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[L]

They ended up getting rid of this dog later. But he's, like, being nice and stuff, walking her dog. He's like, where is she? Where is she? And he's hearing the EMS come. She got in a car accident on the street over. She's laid out on the ground.

[Lily]

Celia.

[L]

Yeah. And he's like a first responder, so he's usually at the scene. He was just not on shift. And it was his team that went up on and saved her. But there's a fence separating them. A couple fences. He takes his dog and he's. He's got it on the leash, but he throws it over the fence. All of these fences. He's picking this dog up and, like, not even caring. Throwing this dog over the fence to get to Celia and rescue his new girlfriend, who is now his wife.

[Andy]

That is crazy.

[L]

And I'm like, you guys need to write a romance novel.

[Andy]

The dog's gonna write another novel. A different perspect. Did you guys see that Tik Tok video? This old man calls the police, and he says, listen. And they show up at his door, and they're like. He's like, my wife. She takes a walk every night with our dog. Yeah, she only takes 30 minutes. I don't know where she's at. He's panicking. It's so sad. Like, he can't even get out of the house. And so the doc. The cops, are driving at night just through the neighborhood, trying to look for this old lady and her dog. Have you heard of this?

[L]

No.

[Andy]

No. It's so good. And so they're driving around, and then they see an old, like, golden lab yellow lab. And so they pull over, and it has the leash on and everything. And they're like, okay, this must be the dog. The dog's name is Eeyore. Cute name. And so they're like. Dogs kind of like going up to the police officer, and they're just like, what's going on?

[L]

Where.

[Andy]

You know, where's your mom? Where's your mom? And he started, like, looking and kind of like, walking. And then she's like, okay. Grabs the leash and lets the dog just lead. Walks past houses into the darkness. Like, into a park. And then, no joke, you hear the old woman laying down on the ground, calling out to the police officers, and she's like, how did you find me? How'd she find me? He's like, literally, the dog just brought me to you.

[L]

What a hero.

[Josh]

So cool.

[Andy]

You can see the whole body cam footage and everything on Tick Tock. It's so neat.

[Josh]

Good, good.

[Andy]

Eeyore.

[Josh]

Love that.

[Lily]

Speaking of Eeyore, I hate doing this.

[Andy]

It's the most emasculating thing in the world.

[L]

I think you love it.

[Andy]

Well, come on. I hate it. No, like, going like, what's the manly way to do that?

[Lily]

You just.

[Josh]

Just do it.

[Andy]

Just maybe.

[Josh]

Maybe use your, like, fingernail instead of caressing your forehead.

[Andy]

Using my fingernail is more manly.

[Josh]

I mean.

[Andy]

Or like, I. I just don't like it.

[Josh]

Oh, God.

[Lily]

Don't say that though.

[Josh]

We.

[Andy]

Long hair.

[Lily]

Stupid. Hey, stupid.

[Josh]

I am more attracted to you right now.

[Andy]

I know you are.

[Lily]

Speaking of Eeyore.

[Andy]

What?

[Lily]

Did you guys hear about that traffic jam in China?

[Andy]

Traffic jam in China? No.

[Lily]

Crazy.

[Andy]

What happened?

[Lily]

Get this. I'll send you guys a video.

[Andy]

I love that. This is just like. It feels like just a news channel.

[Lily]

It was a new highway, right? How many lanes was. Was like 36 lane toll roll road.

[L]

Oh my gosh.

[Lily]

36 lane road, highway road.

[Josh]

Too much concrete.

[Lily]

And there's. I guess they just had a Chinese holiday or something. And so people were coming back from holiday.

[Josh]

They just call them holidays.

[Lily]

True. But to us it's a Chinese holiday.

[Andy]

It's different than our holidays. Yeah, what's. Did you send it?

[Lily]

No. Let me tell a story.

[Andy]

I thought you said we're all looking.

[Josh]

At our phones, waiting.

[Lily]

The traffic jam was 24 hours in long. 24 hours long. This traffic jam. People were stuck in traffic for 24 hours.

[Josh]

That's actually crazy.

[L]

Did they run out of gas?

[Josh]

You have to show.

[Lily]

I don't know. They probably all have like electric cars by now, but people were like panicking. Yeah, because it's like, when are we like, what do you go to the bathroom?

[Andy]

How do you eat?

[Lily]

Look at this. You're stuck, bro.

[Andy]

That is crazy.

[Lily]

24 hours.

[Andy]

So there was a wreck or what happened?

[Lily]

No, it was just an influx of people.

[Josh]

That's AI. No, I just saw a glitch on the bottom.

[Lily]

Okay, well, I'm telling you, this is.

[Josh]

I mean, it might be real, but these clips are. One of the clips they used was AI.

[Andy]

You're AI.

[Lily]

You guys should tell the stories.

[Andy]

Stop.

[L]

That stinks.

[Josh]

I'm sure this story is true.

[Lily]

You're not true, man. You're AI.

[Andy]

That is wild.

[L]

Million cars.

[Andy]

How is that possible? Can we just start flying already?

[Lily]

The golden Week.

[Josh]

Maybe, maybe not. That may have just been a weird light thing.

[Lily]

That was the holiday, the Chinese holiday.

[Andy]

Oh, the Golden Week. What do you think they do on the Golden Week?

[Lily]

The Garden Ring Golden Week.

[Andy]

Listen, don't disrespect the uniform bell.

[Josh]

I was. I was wrong. That was. It was. It was like glow from brake lights. It wasn't working.

[Andy]

Apologize.

[Josh]

I am. I'm doing it right.

[Andy]

Look him in the eyes and apologize.

[Josh]

Soldier.

[Lily]

Soldier.

[L]

Brother for blood.

[Lily]

Tell me you were wrong. Never leave me behind.

[Andy]

Dude, what would you do if you were stuck in traffic for a full day? You don't even prep for it.

[Lily]

I would leave the car.

[Andy]

Imagine like the, the thing on notification, on your maps, on Apple, how it says, like, yeah, this much traffic coming. Like, it's like, oh, this Traffic's gonna add 17 minutes. Imagine it's just saying 24 hours. That's crazy.

[Lily]

I'm ditching the car.

[Josh]

How long ago? Like, at what point do you, like, okay, I'm out of here.

[Andy]

Because you have to keep pushing forward. Like, it's not like you just park and just sleep. You have to keep going.

[Lily]

Yeah. Oh, I mean, probably six hours. I've been. I think I've been stuck in traffic for like four or five hours. 1. Oh, where it was coming back from Georgia, the family, when a man walked into the middle of the highway.

[L]

Oh, no, that's awful.

[Lily]

He was fine. Oh, I'm just kidding.

[Josh]

He died.

[L]

Oh, just kidding.

[Andy]

It's fine.

[Lily]

Just because Halloween is spooky.

[Andy]

Yeah. Sad, weird traffic for two hours, I think, outside of Atlanta. That one time coming back from Orange.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

As soon as we were leaving Atlanta, it just hit and it was two hours just standstill.

[Lily]

I'm like, what's happening?

[Josh]

No, thank you. I got stuck with my family. We drove from Alaska to Delaware when the. The military moved us and we got stuck through the Rocky Mountains. My parents drove a minivan, had, you know, obviously front wheel drive. It's not an all wheel drive thing. And literally had no idea how to drive in like, like Rocky Mountains hills. Like, you actually need either four wheel drive or you need to put chains on your tires. And my parents said they're going through weather changes before. Like, apps are telling you a blizzard's coming. And out of nowhere, everyone starts pulling off the road and starts putting chains on their tires. And they're like, just driving past people. Like, well, I don't know what to do. Like, let's just keep going. Literally got stuck up there the entire night long. And it was like, in the morning. I remember the. The truck driver who towed him out had to put chains on just to get them hooked up to his thing. But we were, like, digging through, like, our luggage, like, looking for oatmeal, like, trying to conserve water. It was like, all night and like, no. Until a random truck driver pulls up and is like, do you want to pay me to get you out until that happens? You're like, you know, there's no cell phone, there's no Internet. You're just waiting.

[Lily]

Just like that movie I saw every Christmas with. What is it called? It's. It has.

[Andy]

What's it about?

[Lily]

Who's the. The guy from How I Met your Neil Patrick Harris. It has Neil Patrick Harris in it where it's him, his wife, and their newborn baby get stranded in a blizzard and he has to, like, hike his way to, like, civilization. My mom and dad accidentally recorded on a VHS right after Rudolph has. Or Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

And so we would just watch it right after Rudolph. So scary.

[Andy]

It's a good chaser.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Yeah. That's so funny.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

I've never heard of that.

[Lily]

I thought I've talked about before. Maybe not.

[Andy]

Have you ever seen the movie with Bill Murray who has to take an elephant all the way across the United States to sell it to a circus?

[Josh]

No.

[Andy]

It's like an old 90s movie, but it's like he inherits this elephant because his dad owned a circus or something. And he's like, in Maine, and he has to transport this elephant all the way across the country. And it's like, Matthew McConaughey shows up as a truck driver. Like a southern truck driver for. No. I'm like, oh, my gosh, is that Matthew McConaughey? It's the craziest thing. It's really good movie. Bigger Than Life, I think is what it's called. Something like that.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Bigger than that.

[Lily]

Bigger than life.

[L]

What else you got?

[Lily]

What else do I get?

[Andy]

Well, if we're talking about Snowy and Rhodes.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

I can go. My story. Yuba County 5.

[Lily]

Yeah, right after this, I don't go anywhere.

[Josh]

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[L]

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[Andy]

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[Lily]

I'm a US soldier. That's what I am. He just said, go to sundaycool.com.

[Josh]

Don'T.

[Lily]

Know what he said there, but I think he meant to say he doesn't understand the language of politeness. Sunday gum. Go get your custom shirts a day.

[Andy]

It was a pretty good ad.

[L]

Pretty good.

[Lily]

Pretty good, Pretty good. That's a scary place to be, though, to believe in Christ, and then one day you don't.

[Andy]

Yeah. I mean, it's like Trump saying, I'm not gonna make it to heaven. I don't think I'm heaven bound.

[Lily]

We can start it here. Trump saying, that I thought was so sad.

[Andy]

It was sad. It's like, literally just someone say, it's like, listen, all you gotta do is believe in Jesus and repent, brother.

[Lily]

Did you hear that clip?

[L]

No, but I do remember him talking about how he wanted a chance at heaven when he was.

[Lily]

Yeah, but then he was asked again when he was on Air Force One, and they're like, president Trump, the remark you made about going to heaven.

[Josh]

He's like, ah.

[Lily]

He's like, I don't think I'm going to heaven.

[Andy]

He's like, I'm not heaven bound.

[Lily]

I'm not heaven bound. He said, so maybe this is heaven with being on Air Force One in the sky.

[L]

But, yeah, I don't think repentance no more.

[Lily]

Like, you can go to heaven, Trump. You can.

[Andy]

You can't hold my hand when I say this to you. Believe in Jesus and repent.

[Lily]

That's just sad, man.

[L]

It is sad.

[Andy]

No hope.

[Lily]

No hope. But then I was literally thinking about that, like, all night. I'm just like, these, like, people that, like, they literally think this life is it.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

You know, and it's not. This is just a little, teeny, tiny fragment.

[Andy]

Absolutely.

[Lily]

And then when you die, you probably get reborn as a frog.

[Andy]

Yes, of course.

[Lily]

Psych.

[L]

Or a carrot. Carrot stick.

[Andy]

Or both. Throw me Reese's, would you please?

[Lily]

Know what I watched yesterday for the second time? Good talk.

[L]

I know. I'm just so good.

[Josh]

You did like one of these little sidearm action.

[Lily]

I watched Silence Again. Andrew Garfield, where he's a Jesuit.

[Andy]

Oh, yeah. I've never seen that.

[Lily]

Goes to Japan.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

You've never seen it?

[Andy]

Never seen it.

[Lily]

Dang.

[Josh]

Haven't seen it.

[Andy]

Dang it.

[Lily]

So I'm the only one.

[L]

You said it's kind of discouraging.

[Andy]

What's the whole story? A little bit.

[Lily]

Also encouraging and discouraging.

[L]

Yeah.

[Lily]

It's about these Jesuit. Jesuit. Roman Catholic Jesuit priests from Portugal that go to Japan because they heard that one of their priests that taught them everything apostatized, like, left the faith.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

And so they went there to prove it or to see if that was true. But at this time, it was in the 1600s, Japan was heavily persecuting Christians.

[Andy]

Sure.

[Lily]

Like, it was an. The. Like one of the only outlawed things in Japan was Christianity.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

And basically the whole movie's about him looking for him and that, but him also ministering to the Christians that are in Japan and the persecution. They show a lot of it. And it's rough. Really super rough.

[L]

Like torture, right?

[Lily]

Yeah, a lot of torture. And they just did really terrible things. But yeah, then I'll just. You guys will have to watch it. Liam Neeson's in it.

[Andy]

Oh, that's right.

[L]

Isn't Adam Driver in it?

[Lily]

Adam Driver's in it.

[Andy]

Star studded.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Gosh.

[Lily]

It's a good movie, though. The end is pretty sad, but kind.

[Andy]

Of blows your mind just how many people, like, see that as no big deal, but it's like these people are literally willing to die and be tortured for their faith.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

It's like. You don't think that means something?

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Might be a little truth to this. Especially the disciples or people who saw Jesus. Like those people, most of them were freaking tortured.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[L]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Persecuted beyond belief. But they saw something. They knew something.

[L]

I just listened to the Diary of a CEO episode. I love his debate episodes where he brings on three people who are, like, strong in their conviction and lets them have it out. He had on an atheist, a spiritualist who's also a neuroscientist, and then a.

[Lily]

Christian spiritualist was just Hindu, though.

[L]

He was Hindu. Yeah. Which he just called himself. It was interesting because he was Hindu. But then later, later in the show says that he's agnostic.

[Lily]

Yeah. There's. There's that sect. There's like sex Of Hinduism.

[L]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[L]

Basically what he's saying. His argument, if I'm able to surmise it correctly, is just that it's better to be spiritual. You benefit from being religious.

[Lily]

Say how he said it, though.

[L]

Karma.

[Lily]

That was good.

[L]

Thanks. Anywho, he was Indian, but the dude, this atheist, was like, whipping everybody, though. I'm like, get it together.

[Lily]

It's that young British guy.

[L]

He's literally 26.

[Andy]

He's. Oh, yeah, he's. He's tough. He's really tough.

[L]

He's extremely intelligent, debated.

[Andy]

I've seen him. His argument on Andrew Scholes about, like, getting things, like, written down and remembering. Do you. Have you seen that clip?

[Lily]

I don't think so.

[Andy]

He's just like, I've been talking for 20 seconds. You can't even remember how. What I said before. Like, you can't even repeat everything that I just said 20 seconds ago. It's like, also, we leave in a completely culturally different time. These guys had books of the Bible, all of the law, memorized by, like. It's like, yeah, it's completely different.

[Lily]

The oral tradition was insane back then.

[Andy]

Because that's what you had to do. And it was important back then. Now it's like you're talking to Andrew Scholes and these guys who are probably toxically online.

[Josh]

Yep.

[Andy]

Constantly interviewing people. You can't contain all that because it's. It's physically impossible. It's not good for you.

[Josh]

Also, if I took a cup of water and turned it into wine right in front of you and then said, now listen, you'd be like, I'm locked in.

[Andy]

Yeah. Everything can exit my brain previous to this moment.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[L]

I thought that the Christian apologist that they had on was. Was. Was really smart. He was a great guy. And I think that he approached it because they were tackling the issue of, like, how do. How do you find purpose? What is the purpose and meaning of life? And especially when we're seeing particularly these young men falling away and they're like, I have no purpose. What is this? What is my role in this world? What is my meaning as a person?

[Andy]

Yeah.

[L]

That was the subject they were meant to tackle. Of course, it ended up turning into this, like, Christianity is a lie debate. Right. Which it always does. And there, I mean, he was talking about the validity of the resurrection and stuff like that. It's like, we're not talking about that. We're talking about how do we reach these people? And so the. The guy exercised a lot of humility, the Christian guy. I thought he did a great job. And he. He really got them a bunch of times. He's like, the. The question that they exited on is like, what would you tell somebody that said comes to you and says, I have no meaning. I have no purpose. I'm not driven in this life. And he would be like, pray that God reveals himself to you, which is a wonderful piece of advice. And he's like, if you're looking for meaning lowercase M, you can just do that. If you're looking for meaning uppercase M, he's like, invite God into your life and recognize your ultimate meaning in this cosmic reality. That was great. Where was I going with that? Oh, I would just thought it was so interesting having this neuroscientist on, because it's like all these people are just missing it. You know what I'm saying? It's like they talk about meditation, all these things, and it's like, God. I just love when science catches up with God. Right. And it's like we are meant to experience these things, like something like meditation through, like, prayer. You know what I'm saying? Like discipline, prayer to God. You will experience these same things through the purpose that it was meant to be experienced as.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[L]

And the fact that people who are religious are happier just recognizes the fact that we were made to be that way. We were made to worship God. And this atheist, I mean, it's so dismal. It's so bleak, this perspective.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[L]

He has no advice for somebody that needs encouragement.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

I mean, how could you? It's just one of those things where it's like, then that means this world, you could do whatever you want. There's no consequences. You only live once and do whatever you want.

[L]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Then we talk about morality. Where does morality come from?

[L]

No, I know they talked a lot about morality. Yeah. And he's like, well, they kept bringing up the situation, like the child with cancer or something like that. And then the Christians like, well, why? Why does that bother you that the child has cancer?

[Andy]

Yeah.

[L]

Literally. Why?

[Andy]

Yeah. Where's your sense of justice come from?

[L]

Yeah, exactly.

[Andy]

You guys ever watch those jubilee videos where they have, like, the people in the circle and there's one person debating ye? Did you see the one with Ali Beth Stuckey in it?

[Lily]

I saw clips of it, bro.

[Andy]

She is insanely good.

[Lily]

Yeah, she did a lot about, like, abortion and stuff.

[Andy]

She had. Yeah, it was about abortion. It was about how empathy can lead to Eve, like, to sin. And there was a few other arguments that she had, but golly, this dude, she killed it.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

She crushes it. Always pointing back to scripture, has so much of that memorized and is able to do it in such a respectful.

[Lily]

Way it was with Christian liberals, right?

[Andy]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Christian progressive. Progressive ism. Whatever. I don't know. I. I mean, it's weird. It's wonky, but they.

[Josh]

It's pronounced Methodist.

[Andy]

But, yeah, that one's definitely worth listening to because she crushes it in a respectful way. Loving way, but also just, like, not backing down, especially when it comes to abortion or anything like that. It's like, even people that are like, listen, I. I'm completely pro choice, but you have me questioning a lot of things after this conversation.

[L]

Yeah, you should send it to me. I'll listen to it.

[Andy]

Yeah, it's really good.

[L]

Cool.

[Lily]

Speaking of questioning, things.

[Andy]

Are fresh on her mind.

[L]

This one was so funny. I actually. I have two. If this one is lame to you guys, but a lot.

[Andy]

I'm gonna give you that doc that we created for Florida Torta because there's a ton of good questions on there too.

[L]

Okay. Okay. At your wedding.

[Josh]

Okay.

[L]

Would you rather your spouse accidentally say their ex's name at the altar? Or when they go to kiss you, they accidentally vomit a little in your mouth?

[Lily]

Vomit.

[Josh]

For sure.

[L]

You'd rather do that? Yeah, me too.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Does the whole crowd hear the name?

[L]

Yeah.

[Andy]

So this is like a Ross and Rachel type of situation.

[L]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Lily]

That would be rough.

[L]

That I. That's unforgivable.

[Andy]

Yeah. Turn around, I think. I mean, because if she throws up in my mouth, I'm also throwing up on her white dress. I'll take the name because I think it's funnier. And also, it's one of those things where just, like, you can always bring up later. Like, remember.

[Lily]

But what if you didn't? What if you said the wrong name?

[Andy]

Oh, if I said it. No, no, no, no. I would much rather go up in her mouth.

[Lily]

Not a chance.

[Andy]

I would much rather. Yeah, that would be crazy.

[Josh]

Oh, man.

[Andy]

I couldn't do that.

[Lily]

It'd be so scary.

[Andy]

I could not do that to her. That would be terrible.

[Lily]

Freak out instantly, because if I did.

[Andy]

Say it, I would throw up. So it's one of those things where both things are gonna happen.

[Lily]

That's good.

[L]

Do you want to hear another question?

[Lily]

Please.

[L]

Okay. This is from somebody on our Patreon episode. It's, like, kind of oddly specific and. But I thought it was funny. The person on the Discord Chat, their name is Herax. H E R A X X.

[Andy]

Perfect.

[L]

Oh, that's not a bad word or something. Verify. Okay.

[Andy]

It's a slur. Okay.

[Lily]

Like, just kind of want to say it.

[L]

Watch it. Would you Rather have Bigfoot crash on your couch for six months, he eats all your snacks and eventually falls in love with you. Or be haunted by the ghost of a 19th century Illuminati whistleblower who gives you priceless secrets. 24. Seven for three months.

[Josh]

That.

[L]

Yeah, I know. That's what I was gonna say, too.

[Josh]

For sure.

[Lily]

Although Bigfoot would be really cool.

[L]

I'd be scared, but.

[Andy]

Yeah, but the falls in love. That's the tough thing.

[Lily]

I know, but what if you can, like, be like, hey, we just have. We can only be friends, but just, like, protect me, like, and just walk around.

[Andy]

Yeah. But then, like, one time when Lily raises her voice at you, he's gonna get protective and, like, hit her over.

[L]

The head or something, and I die. But the ghost thing is also scary because 24. 7. So he'll wake you up.

[Lily]

Wake up.

[Andy]

Get out of here.

[Lily]

Let me tell you about Beyonce. I already know.

[Andy]

Gosh, you don't actually have to blow a whistle just because you're a whistleblower as well.

[Lily]

Yeah, that'd be cool.

[Andy]

I'd choose Bigfoot.

[L]

Cool.

[Andy]

I just need that affirmation.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Imagine you want me.

[Andy]

Oh, dude. I mean, it doesn't mean, like, romantic love. It could be like, I'm your dad now. Yeah.

[L]

He's stinky, though.

[Lily]

But he is.

[Andy]

He fits right in. Fits right in.

[L]

Anyway, so.

[Andy]

Live in a cave.

[L]

That person got to ask that question because they participate in our. Dolphins are aliens. Patreon Discord account.

[Lily]

Patreon butterflies.

[L]

Where they have a unique access to our brains.

[Lily]

Yes, unique.

[Andy]

New York.

[Lily]

Andrew. Here's what that beat. Andrew has a real caveman. Giant. Giant. Andrew's got a reel. I hope every time I do this, you add a gun effect.

[Josh]

That's a lot of. I'll just do this. 3, 2. Is it there yet?

[Andy]

Shoot a cow cat at me.

[L]

Golly, this suit is getting.

[Josh]

I started sending this thing a very long time ago.

[Lily]

What's going on with your phone, bud?

[Josh]

I don't know.

[Lily]

Versus telling you that my videos are AI which they're not.

[Josh]

Never, never, never. So here's the setup.

[Lily]

Okay.

[L]

Oh, man, that's Harley Davidson.

[Josh]

I'm gonna have to cut some language out of this, but this dude is willing to go through quite the extensive lengths to avoid going to the dentist and getting some routine care done.

[Andy]

This is Josh.

[Josh]

I mean, you just hold the phone up.

[L]

We don't need, or he's gonna get his tooth yoinked.

[Lily]

All right, ready? Three, two, one.

[Andy]

All right. Don't worry.

[Lily]

Don't crush.

[Josh]

Here we go.

[Andy]

Here comes white. They're in a shop.

[Lily]

Oh, yeah.

[Josh]

There's a guy in the chair, a guy with, like, vice grips going in to this tooth. He's trying to get an angle on it to only get this one tooth.

[L]

Is he a dentist?

[Andy]

This is vice grips.

[Josh]

This is a homie.

[Lily]

Mother mercy.

[Andy]

Okay, all right. He's got a grip. He's getting a. Oh. Oh, shoot, shoot.

[L]

Listen, it's the wrong one.

[Josh]

No, he goes.

[Lily]

Guys, guys, guys, look at it.

[Andy]

It's the wrong one.

[Lily]

Smoke.

[Andy]

Dude, that's crazy.

[Lily]

I mean, that will save you a lot of money, but also, you might get an infection and die after.

[L]

Yeah, literally.

[Lily]

That's nice.

[L]

At least when you go to a dentist, you get some novocaine, bro.

[Josh]

You want one more short one?

[Lily]

Sure.

[Josh]

Yay.

[Andy]

Dude, that's crazy.

[Lily]

Hooray. The guy kind of looked like he had a little bit of novocaine in him.

[Andy]

Listen, we could. Yeah. The guy pulling it, dude.

[Josh]

Apparently people are still wearing scleral lenses, like the fat contacts, and this is how they mold them.

[L]

Oh, my gosh.

[Josh]

Fat contacts, like, like thick lens contacts. Like old school scleral lenses.

[Lily]

I've never heard of that. All right, ready? Three, two, one.

[Josh]

Oh, I might actually have to mute this one.

[L]

Oh, my.

[Josh]

So it's like a wax. And they make a mold?

[Andy]

Yeah. Dude, that's a nightmare.

[Lily]

Oh, my gosh.

[Andy]

That is a Halloween costume.

[L]

I still wear the monthlies, which apparently are gonna go away here soon.

[Lily]

Okay, are you guys on the algorithm on Tick Tock where those people are changing their eye colors?

[Josh]

Oh, I've got one of them saved too, but that was a little much, bro. Have you watched it happen?

[Lily]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, they. They literally, they. It's like almost like the Lasik. Your lens open, but it's a, like, hook.

[Josh]

It like, goes in and curves, but.

[Lily]

They inject a new color into your eye. None of them look good.

[Andy]

No, I gotta see.

[Lily]

They all look like.

[Josh]

I'll send you, like, zombies.

[L]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Oh, it's.

[Josh]

It's so bad because like, that, it's. What do you call, like, the old school grass cutting blades?

[Lily]

Sickle.

[Josh]

Sickles. It's like a mini sickle.

[L]

And then they slice your lens off.

[Josh]

Oh. But they, like, they go in circles.

[L]

Oh, my God.

[Andy]

No, thank you.

[L]

Oh, my God.

[Andy]

They do look awful.

[Lily]

Yeah. And everyone that, they're like, okay, here, what do you think? And they're always like, oh. One dude asks, he's like, wow. He's like, is this so it's like permanent. The guy's like, yeah, look bad.

[Andy]

You look like you just born in Twilight.

[Lily]

I know.

[L]

It's so unnatural.

[Andy]

Oh, my goodness.

[Lily]

It's crazy.

[Andy]

People. I tell Kelsey all the time, like, people would be so jet. Like, people like. Cuz her eyes are so cool and.

[L]

Her eyes are awesome.

[Andy]

It's the coolest things in the world. Like, you can't even. Like you literally. I can't imagine how much people would pay to have those kind of eyes.

[L]

Dude, has her mom ever talked about. Because you know when that happens, they say it's because she ate her twin in the womb. She was. There was a twin in there?

[Andy]

Probably. I mean, wait, what is that? Or she's a mutant.

[Josh]

What is it?

[Andy]

Kelsey's eyes.

[L]

Two different eye colors, but she has.

[Andy]

Three in one eye. Yeah, it's like a pie graph. Like it's split.

[Josh]

Oh, crazy.

[Andy]

So cool. Yeah.

[L]

Maybe there were four of them and Kelsey was the strongest of them.

[Andy]

That makes sense.

[L]

Yeah. She's the strongest girl ever.

[Lily]

I mean, ever.

[Andy]

She's not stronger than me, though. Put that on the record.

[Lily]

She might be.

[L]

Have you guys ever tried to fight?

[Andy]

Yeah. She wins. She is better at basketball than me, which is the most embarrassing thing in the world because I would try to beat her up so bad and it's like I can't. I just cannot hold my own at.

[Lily]

All with a last name like Hooper. I'm terrible at basketball too. Terrible at basketball.

[Josh]

Get DeAndre Jordan, dude.

[Andy]

We will. If we. When we get DeAndre Jordan on the podcast, we are going to go play basketball with him.

[L]

You should have Kelsey playing.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

He loses.

[Josh]

What the.

[Andy]

We have to get you in the wnba.

[Josh]

I didn't know you could dunk, Kelsey. That's crazy.

[Lily]

Speaking of the WNBA and losing.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Have you guys ever heard of the Chinese bottomless pits?

[L]

Oh, my gosh.

[Josh]

What?

[Andy]

Sounds like a traffic jam.

[Lily]

You would think.

[Andy]

Yeah. The bottomless pit.

[Lily]

The bottomless pits. Okay.

[Andy]

Multiple.

[Josh]

Plural.

[Lily]

Multiple.

[Andy]

Cool.

[Lily]

So there's these. It was in Long Yu county in China.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Lily]

Long Yu.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[L]

Good job.

[Lily]

Thanks. That was a pretty easy one.

[Andy]

It's just Longyu.

[Lily]

Yeah. But in this village, there are all these ponds and the. The story is, in this village, they had no idea how these ponds came about, but they called them the bottomless pits because no one could ever find the bottom of these pits because they just were so deep.

[Andy]

How many are there? I mean, like, little ponds are there.

[Lily]

I mean, over 20.

[Josh]

Gosh.

[Andy]

And no one's reached the bottom of them.

[Lily]

Yeah. And so. But all these stories around these pits, these ponds. The villagers always told the children, don't go near the pond because there's stuff in them. Like. But they use them for, like, getting their water, feeding their crops. But they're always full, never ran out of water. No one ever found the bottom.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

And then it was in 1992, your birth year, that this one farmer in Longyou decided to pump the pond, drain it. Oh, he's like. Because I would. I. He's like, I'm tired of this bottomless thing because where you put that water, I don't know. Crops down a mountain.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Fill another pond.

[Andy]

Yeah, I guess so.

[Lily]

Decided to pump it. Right. He drained it, and what he found was this deep, deep pit. But it wasn't natural. It was human made.

[L]

What?

[Andy]

How deep is this thing?

[Lily]

Turns out all these bottomless pit ponds were different chambers that were carved into the earth over 2000 years ago.

[Andy]

What?

[L]

So mysterious.

[Lily]

Yeah. So they said that these. These caves, these cave systems, they range from, they think around 200 BC to 23 BC or, sorry, 23 AD, okay. But yes. 2,000 years old. And let me send you these pictures. These are Jesus.

[Andy]

Jesus is walking the earth. And they're just over there digging.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[L]

Wow.

[Lily]

But they. They had, like, intricate carvings in them. And, like, to this day, they don't really know what they're used for. But the. The war, or the name that they give them now is the Cave of the Immortals. And wait till you see these, dude. I mean, they're absolutely insane.

[Andy]

I mean, that's. I mean, think. I'm just thinking logistically, how do you dig back then that deep?

[Lily]

Yeah, well, that's what they're saying, too. They said the vast amount of earth that they would have to move for these cases. There's 20 of these chambers. Yeah, they're huge. They said the vast amount of earth that they would have to move. They said they. We don't even know where they put it.

[Andy]

Sure.

[Lily]

I mean.

[Andy]

Yeah. How do you transport all that, too?

[Lily]

Yeah, because.

[Andy]

Where'd it go?

[Josh]

All right.

[Lily]

Look at these pictures I just sent.

[Josh]

Whoa.

[Andy]

What in the world?

[Lily]

So these were at the bottom of these little ponds in this village in China?

[L]

What?

[Andy]

Bro, they're huge.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Oh, I thought that was a ufo.

[L]

I thought that was a ufo. I know.

[Josh]

I did, too. When I first.

[Lily]

I'm like, yes, they are real.

[Andy]

Dude, that is. I just don't get it.

[Lily]

24 caves in total. The caves are carved in sandstone, and many share remarkable features. The chambers are large, often with ceilings up to 30 meters high in wide floor areas. Some over a thousand meters squared.

[L]

Bro, this is nuts.

[Andy]

This was in. Found in 1992.

[Lily]

1992.

[Andy]

How have we not heard about this yet?

[Lily]

I saw pictures of this before. I'm like, wow, that's pretty cool. And they're like, yeah, these are very ancient case. I never knew that they were pawns though.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Like literally just ponds in this village. And they're like, let's pump this.

[Andy]

Yeah. I wonder how long people have like known that the ponds have been there. Like how long has it been since.

[Lily]

Well, they don't know. Yeah. They said this is what we've always been told, like our. Our grandparents and then their grandparents. It was always just these ponds.

[Andy]

So they're trying to cover it up.

[Lily]

And I, I asked, I said, how long have these been filled up? And they said according to dating of like water retention, all this stuff. They said that they've been filled up for 2, 000 years.

[L]

Wow.

[Lily]

So they've been a pond for 2,000 years.

[L]

So basically like from the time they were created.

[Lily]

Yeah. Or maybe they're even older than that, but they've at least been filled for 2,000 years.

[L]

Wow.

[Andy]

It seems like watcher stuff. Dude.

[L]

They don't know.

[Lily]

It's weird. You saw the one with those giant statues. Yeah.

[L]

Yeah. That's so wild. Yeah.

[Josh]

I was just.

[L]

We're reading in Daniel and it talks about a vision that is given to King Beltishar.

[Andy]

Else.

[L]

Or is it Nebuchadnezzar? I can't remember.

[Andy]

Nebuchadnezzar's and Daniel.

[L]

They're both in there. But I forget which vision it was.

[Lily]

Where he saw the watcher.

[L]

Where he saw the watch.

[Lily]

Nebuchadnezzar.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[L]

And the watchers seem to be in service to God.

[Lily]

Yeah. Because that's just a title.

[L]

Oh, I see.

[Lily]

Yeah. So there's the fallen watchers. Yeah.

[L]

I thought the watchers were always negative.

[Lily]

No, it's just a title.

[L]

I see.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[L]

Continue.

[Lily]

That's it.

[L]

That's so mysterious, so fun. What a good find.

[Andy]

I also just. I guess I just don't understand. It's all obviously a cultural thing, but why were. Life was so much more difficult back then. Right. Why was it such a priority to create these statues?

[Lily]

Because I think they. I think they really had like the. The watchers and these demons really presented themselves as gods.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

And so it's like.

[Andy]

And maybe did make life easier for them. Yes. Service and stuff.

[Lily]

How to grow crops and. But it's like they Demanded worship towards them. Right.

[Andy]

So it's like, take the glory away from God.

[Lily]

These people went all out to build temples and ceremonies in reverence to them.

[Andy]

Yeah, for sure. That's wild. Spooky, that. Yeah. Just looking at the photos, I get a weird vibe.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

And I'm excellent at picking up vibes. That's a weird one.

[L]

So that's in China. Wow. Very cool. I bet, like, the HOA or the group that was living around these ponds are like, I'm so mad. Don't be going draining my ponds. I use this pond to water my garden. There's all these people grumpy about it. As soon as he sees, like, the head of the statue, he feels vindicated.

[Lily]

Oh, yeah, I bet you he was yelling, like, stop draining the pond.

[Andy]

We need this.

[Lily]

We've had this for thousands of years.

[Andy]

But then the HOA people see it and they're like, listen, this is more real estate. We can rent this out. This is perfect.

[L]

This is nuts.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

You just got so much square footage.

[Lily]

Speaking of square footage, did it say.

[Andy]

How deep it was?

[Lily]

Yeah. Like. Or, no.

[Andy]

How far underground it was?

[Lily]

No, I mean, some of them were saying the ceilings are 30 meters, which is 90. 90ft.

[Andy]

Oh, God.

[Josh]

So that's just the cavern. That's not even the.

[Lily]

The entrance to it. Yeah.

[Andy]

So weird. Good story.

[Lily]

Yeah. You guys. Oh, go ahead. You go.

[Josh]

Nope, I just. What? You were before the break. You were about to tell a story, and then we never got to your show.

[Andy]

We'll get to it.

[L]

We'll.

[Andy]

Yeah, we'll talk about it.

[Josh]

I was just. Yeah, yeah, we're good.

[Lily]

Yeah, we're good.

[Josh]

He's making. He's making me continue.

[Andy]

No, you got it. You got. You got something written down. Just go for it.

[Lily]

I got a lot written down, pal.

[Andy]

I know you got it for it.

[Lily]

Go for it. Tell your story.

[Andy]

Are you telling Patreon?

[Lily]

No telling now.

[Andy]

Okay. All right. This is the story. What they call the Yuba County Five, or America's Dyatlov Pass. Remember this story?

[L]

Yeah.

[Andy]

People in Russia, they got 12 guys got stuck in the.

[Lily]

Died in weird circumstances.

[Andy]

Very weird.

[Lily]

The last picture showed a figure in the woods.

[Andy]

Yes. Yes.

[Josh]

Found up trees.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

So this is America's Dyatlof Pass. This has happened In February of 1978 in Yuba City, in Yuba county in California. Okay, so there's five guys. I'll give you the names. There's five guys, ages from 24 to 32. Number one, Ted Wire, Jack Madruga, Bill Sterling, Jack Hewitt and Gary Matthias. These guys were best of friends. They were absolute best of friends. Some of them had mental disabilities. One of them had schizophrenia. Several of them were in the army at one point. Right. So they were veterans. It's a great mixture. But the thing is, they were awesome people. They loved each other. They're well known in town, and their one favorite pastime was playing basketball. They were on. They were in a program called the Gateway program. Can't really find out much about that because there's a lot of Gateway programs. So I don't know if it's. I don't know.

[L]

Oh, but what are you talking about?

[Andy]

When you go to school and like this, certain people would come in and they. It's like the special.

[Lily]

Can I pause you right there real quick? The Gateway program?

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

That we've talked about before. That was in elementary schools, for sure. I heard an audio recording of what they played. I'm like, I remember this recording.

[Andy]

No way.

[Lily]

Yes.

[Andy]

Let's play it after this.

[Lily]

And then they showed the pink drinks. I remember drinking the pink drink.

[Andy]

And now look where you are. You're talking about conspiracies.

[L]

You would not have done it at the Bible school.

[Lily]

I. No, we. Because Kenny Bacchus did at the Bible school.

[L]

Oh, he remembers.

[Andy]

Yeah, bro.

[Lily]

I remember that. I mean, it was, like, straight. I'm like, oh, my gosh.

[Andy]

That's where it all started, dude. That's where it all started.

[L]

Wait, why were they doing that again?

[Lily]

The Gateway program?

[L]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Just trying to identify kids that are gifted. But the. You know, but there's different things with that. It goes down into, you know, like, telekinesis and all this.

[Josh]

They're looking for elevens from stranger Things, basically.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[L]

Okay. Continue, Andy.

[Andy]

So. So these guys, best of friends, everyone knows them in the city. They're great guys. And they are part of a basketball team, and they're currently in the middle of a tournament. And so their basketball team is called the Gateway Gators.

[Josh]

Nice.

[Andy]

Because they're in the Gateway program. So they're. They're playing basketball in this tournament, and one night they find out that their favorite basketball team is playing at a college in Chico, California. Right. Next day, they have their final game of the tournament. It's a huge freaking deal for them, right? So before they leave, they say, come, mom, dad, can we, you know, like, can we figure this out? Can we get our car? Can we all get together and go out? And everyone said, that's cool. No problem. So they get home, every one of them lays out Their basketball jerseys and their shorts and their shoes and their socks and everything. Preparing for the next day because they cannot wait for their basketball game. They all get in a car, and one of them was the driver and had a car that he absolutely loved. He was very protective of it. It was a 1969 Mercury Montego, and he was very protective of this car. He always did his own work on the car. He loved his car. So they all piled in, all five of them in their car, drove 50 miles north to Chico, California. They attend the basketball game. People are seeing them have the basketball game. They have eyewitnesses witnessing them. They're having a great time at the basketball game. Once that wraps up around 10 o', clock, they head to a little tiny general store. Right before it closes, the clerk is ticked off because they're closing at 10. They just walked in two minutes before closing time. And they're in there, they're buying chocolate milk, they're buying burritos, they're buying Cokes. They're just getting snacks for the road trip back home. Because their whole thing is, we want to be well rested. That's what they told their parents. We want to be well rested for the tournament tomorrow so we can win that night at that general store. That store clerk was the last person to ever see any one of them alive.

[Josh]

Whoa.

[L]

Oh, my gosh.

[Andy]

Yes. The next day, the parents wake up, and none of them are home. They start panicking. They start calling other parents, hey, did Jack come home? Did Gary come home? Did Ted come home? No answer. They have no idea what happened. So they call the police. Given there's some people that are struggling with medical mental disabilities, they start kind of panicking and figuring out. So they go up and they find out that they were at the basketball game. They go to the general store, they find out they were there, and they have no idea. Three days later, they find a car. A sheriff finds a car on an icy road on a Mountain Road 70 miles out of the direction of Yuba city, where they were from, completely off into the mountains. So Yuba City's here, chico's here. They're 70 miles this way. Oh, on a mountain road. So the guy finds it and identifies it. It is his car. They say, okay, maybe it was, you know, broke down, stuck in the snow. It was not stuck in the snow. It was completely able to drive. They check, maybe they ran out of gas. Quarter tank of gas still left. They hotwire the car because the keys were missing. The car's running completely fine. Window was Down. That's it. No evidence of that. We're, you know, of foul play or anything at all. Three days after that, they. They have a search party out there, and a huge snowstorm rolls in to the point where one of the people in the search party has a heart attack. Other one starts getting hypothermia. They call off the search because it gets so crazy. It piles in feet of snow. And so they call it off. This is in February. About three months later, in early spring, is when they start looking again because everything's down. So they go out there, some of the parents are with them and everything, and they. They just couldn't find anything absolutely at all. Then we have a motorcycle couple that was, you know, trailing along the mountain roads, and they see a trailer way back in the thing. And they realize that it's one of those national forestry forestry trailers. You know, that usually you just get snowed over during the winter times. But people stay there who work for the service. They go up and they see the front door window is cracked open, just broken, shattered. And there's some, like, cans of food and stuff just laying outside the trailer. So they go up and they smell a horrible, horrible smell. They open up the door, and they see a body wrapped in blankets on the bed. They call the cops, and the cops show up, and they realize that that was. I believe it was Ted laying down there in the bed. This is where it gets really, really strange, because Ted, not only was he laying in bed, but he was. Had his arms to his side, and he was wrapped in eight different blankets. His feet were exposed. Had become black, you know, frostbitten, gangrenous, all that stuff. Toes had fallen off.

[Lily]

How many days have passed so far?

[Andy]

This is. This is months. Oh, months, months later. And so that. But he's the first person they found. And so they're looking around the trailer, and they just keep getting more and more questions because he's obviously died of hypothermia. And they later found out Dart died of starvation as well. But they look over, they have kindling, they have matches. They have fire logs. There's a propane tank that does the furnace that was completely full. They had books and papers and all this stuff to start fires. None of it used. They had cans, cans of food for a year's supply of food. None of it was touched except for the stuff that was left outside. And so we just. There's so many questions happening. When they look at Ted's body closer, they realize he had a long beard and he was Freshly shaven. The night he went missing.

[Lily]

Oh, what?

[Andy]

So he. By the testing and everything, and they speculate he was out there for eight to 12 weeks alive because his beard kept its beard growth. They speculated that. And they looked down and they saw the shoes, and they realized that's not Ted's shoes. So there must have been somebody else that was here. It gets confirmed that it was Gary Matias issues one of the other guys in the five. And so they go out and they just start searching. Right. And the thing is, 11 miles away, the first body is found from the trailer. 11 miles. And it's a person who had died at hypothermia. One of the other people, Was it Jack Weir? I think that was his name. Jack Hewitt. Jack Hewitt's dad, Greg Hewitt, was walking around and looking, and he sees Jack's sweater, runs over to his big, big coat, picks up the coat, a spine falls out, his son's spine scattered. They didn't know if it was from animals or what, but it was completely scattered. His body parts and skeleton. And they found. So they found the guy in the trailer and the three others. Four. Yeah, they found four of the bodies. Right. Gary Matthias, the person whose shoes was in the trailer was never found. Still to this day, no evidence whatsoever. But the thing is, the questions are, why did they drive away from Yuba City? Right. They were driving for miles and miles and miles on a dirty old unkept mountain road. Mountain trail road. They would have known they weren't on the road back home. Right. Why do you abandon a car that's. Has gas, that's working fine? How do you walk 11 miles away from your car to. To find a trailer?

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

There were blankets found in the woods.

[Lily]

It's just completely the fact that it was that at least had eight to 10 weeks. They're just walking through these mountains.

[Andy]

Absolutely.

[Josh]

Who was driving and who was schizophrenic? That's my question.

[Andy]

It wasn't. Jack Hewitt was the one that was driving. He was a reliable person. A lot of people said Gary Matthias was the one that was. That went missing. He had schizophrenia. But he said he had been unstable on medication. There was no problems there.

[L]

Weeks. He wouldn't have had enough for age.

[Lily]

That's the one that they never found.

[Andy]

That's the one they never found.

[Josh]

So, I mean, could have just lost it and gone way off grid. Yeah, I mean, that's the like most.

[Andy]

But you think about it, all those guys wanted to go home.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

They all had reasons to go home, play basketball and, you know, wake up tomorrow. So what made them veer off 70 miles, 50 miles to home, 70 miles off track? Like, what made them do that? And where's Gary now?

[Josh]

I mean, you know, there is, like, there is the theory, like, in schizophrenia. Like, I don't want to reduced to possession as some people do, but possession I believe. I'm not saying all schizophrenia is possession, but I believe that somebody who is possessed could be diagnosed as schizophrenic. Trying to say that, like, as kindly as I can. But let's say since that's the dude, they never recovered. He's. He has some sort of manifesto manifestation episode sort of thing that would break you. You're on a trip with somebody and realize somebody's like, somebody's fully possessed. And so who. I mean, as far as like a reason to flee.

[Lily]

Jump out of it. Yeah.

[Josh]

And then disperse and then one by one.

[Andy]

Yeah. But these. That's the thing, though. All these guys were incredible friends. They had a long history with each other. It's just. It's very strange. It's almost more weird than the Dyatlov Pass to me.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

I mean, expect. Yeah. Because there's so much.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

It's a terrible way to die, though. I mean, I can't imagine.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Like, it's. That's got to be so scary. But it's just weird because Gary's shoes were at the trailer was 11 miles.

[Lily]

From the car and they never found him.

[Andy]

And they never found him.

[Lily]

Weird.

[Andy]

Yeah. Super, super strange.

[Lily]

This, like a really crazy terrain that they're in.

[Andy]

Oh, yeah. It's. This is the mountains in California.

[Lily]

Like, this is like Northern California, I'm guessing.

[Andy]

Yeah, yeah, Northern. It's literally like snow capped. Like, you would have known that you're going onto a mountain. Like, it was nutso.

[Lily]

That's crazy.

[Andy]

It's wild, dude. And it's like super creepy because you just don't know what happens. And you just imagine, like just what was happening in that car before they got out.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

What in the world happened?

[Lily]

Where are you, Gary?

[Josh]

Dang.

[Lily]

Where are you, Gary? Can I really miss you?

[Josh]

Can I start a war with Bass Pro real quick, please?

[L]

Please?

[Josh]

I saw Andy. I know you said you saw this reel. I want to shout out the guy because I am stealing inspiration, at the very least from his content. But the. The account. The guy is Alex Falcone, I'm assuming is how you say it. But anyways, he posts. He's talking about Bass Pro and like, there's like a conspiracy with Bass Pro. And how they've become this huge, massive conglomerate. So I grew up fishing in the 90s with my dad. And literally some of my best memories are, like, being taken to the tackle shop. I remember I used to do chores around the house, get up a couple quarters. And I remember there were bins of, like, individual plastic worms. And, like, I remember I'd never had enough money to buy what I wanted to buy. And this sweet old man behind the counter just loved that. I was a kid fishing, and he'd always be like, I think you got enough. And he'd give me stuff. Like, I have fond memories with the mom and Pop tackle shop. So that started going away. Even in town here I shoot archery. There used to be a bow shop on the way to Umatilla. That's gone. And it's gone because of all the huge outdoor stores, which I get capitalism sometimes that's just the way of business. And that happens. I'm not anti, you know, businesses doing good for themselves.

[Andy]

You anti American right now?

[Lily]

Just the way you are.

[Josh]

Just a little bit. Just a little bit. Not really. But I got super ticked off when I realized how much assistance the US Government has provided to Bass Pro and Cabela's starting in the early 2000s. Oh, dude. They have been given approximately $2 billion.

[Andy]

What?

[Josh]

Bass Pro and Cabela's. Bass Pro has acquired Cabela's. But if you're take. If you're taking the sum of all of the different. And now this is multiple locations. But for instance, the pyramid. The Bass Pro pyramid, Memphis was given $200 million by the city for development.

[Lily]

What in the world?

[Andy]

What do they have to gain from that? Except for just obviously, just.

[Lily]

I think I know just.

[Josh]

They're just saying tourism. That's literally. They say it creates jobs, but the fact is it is reduced. If you actually look at the. This is from that video I watch. He's talking about the different. Like, the amount of business that's actually being generated. It doesn't add up. You get people who are visiting from out of town, but all the mom and pops have gone away. And so when you look at how it's actually playing out, it's like, go to a Bass Pro. How many people are actually working the register? There's like, two. How many work the register? And a mom and pop. Two mom and pop. You know what I mean? It's like. It's the same sort of thing, but this is how they did it. So when Bass Pro shop started, it was a liquor store. And then the dude started Selling tackle out of his dad's liquor store. And just one thing led to another and he started this business. Awesome. Cool. Well he began wanting this immersive like get to experience the outdoors. And I genuinely like, I like going to a bass pro. You know the fish tank's cool. Like all the taxidermy. Well it turns out they have gotten grants because they call themselves museums.

[L]

That's funny.

[Lily]

Taxidermy and stuff.

[Josh]

Yeah, they preservations of history. And they've literally played this game to the tune of $2 billion.

[Andy]

That's crazy. That's a lot of money, dude.

[L]

That's clever everybody.

[Lily]

That's pretty.

[Josh]

Like we're preserving all this history by destroying the shops that you see in all of these, all of these photos. All of these.

[Lily]

Yeah, that's true.

[Josh]

Right. They're like we love this old timey place by the way. We never want to see it exist again.

[Lily]

Man, you know where my brain went with that? Where is that the interest in getting rid of all these small town bait and tackle and because they would obviously sell ammunition stuff there too. So if you get rid of a place in your small town to where people can rely on to go in case something happens, in case they need stuff to survive.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Then it's all combined under now a US government funded bait and tackle shop.

[Andy]

If they were doing that though, they would want to control all like mass production food too. Which they're not doing.

[Lily]

That's true.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

And like medicines like big pharma and stuff like that. They would create like a big pharma.

[Andy]

Yeah, yeah. So if the government like wanted to like one day just like say you know, we're in control of everything.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

You have to listen to us. And they just shut everything off. It would just be bass pros and stuff like probably because yeah. They're definitely not touching any of our food or pharmacies. You know like medications.

[Lily]

You're right. Those dumb of me.

[Andy]

Gas. I mean we have, we have our own gas. I fill up my own tanks of gas at the local gas station. We all volunteer to fill up our own. We make our own gas here.

[Lily]

True, true. Yeah. Wrong, wrong.

[Andy]

The government screwing us over.

[Josh]

So it says they use tax increment financing, direct public funding or bonds and land grants or infrastructure. And on the like most like liberal estimations it could be like in the almost a billion dollars. And then on the extreme end it goes well over 2 and so. And again chat GPT has been wrong. But asking some clarifying questions it brought it down to about 2 billion is where it guessed the middle ground with all of the, like, tax breaks and stuff they've given them.

[Andy]

No, thank you.

[Lily]

I do love bass pro, though.

[Andy]

It is truly very cool place. I know you're never gonna go, Especially you. But Springfield's. Springfield, Missouri's bass pro has the greatest aquarium I've ever been to.

[L]

Literally jokes on you. I've been there.

[Andy]

Oh, I forgot. You have.

[Lily]

Bass pro.

[Andy]

Yes.

[L]

We went to the bass pro at the shopping center.

[Andy]

It is.

[Josh]

We did.

[L]

Yes, I did. With. Maybe with your dad.

[Andy]

Dude. It took me. It took me three hours to walk through. And we were like, speed walking, didn't it? Isn't that where it's greatest one ever? That was the first bass pro. But we went. We stayed at the. We stayed at a. The hotel they have is there as well. And it's like, literally just the most country thing in the world because they have rooms. They have a hotel next door. Yeah.

[L]

Oh, I don't think I went to the right one.

[Josh]

I will play devil's advocate.

[L]

I went to one in Branson. Is that the same thing?

[Josh]

No.

[Andy]

Oh, Branson's the city. Springfield's a city.

[Josh]

Playing devil's advocate. I have gone to all of the like. Like, I won't say all. I've been to some of the local gun stores, like, looking for some particular things. And almost every time I go in there, they're like, ah, we don't have that. And I'm like, I'm trying to help you guys, but I guess I'm making a bass pro run. Yeah.

[Lily]

We had one in sorrento when I lived in soreno, and it was literally mom and pop. The couple there that owned it. They're like, in their 80s.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

And he would restring bows. He would do it all. That's cool. And, like, had his. All his little bait fishing gear. And then they put in the 429. That is quicker to bass pro gone.

[Josh]

Yep.

[Lily]

And he had been there, I think, since, like, the 50s or 60s.

[L]

You guys should open a little tackle shop.

[Andy]

Dude, that would be so cool.

[Josh]

Just like a little shack. I would.

[Lily]

But just sell liquor. Yeah.

[Andy]

This makes you want to tackle people.

[Lily]

That's like bass pro started.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

We reverse it.

[Andy]

Absolutely.

[Josh]

We just open a liquor store with.

[Lily]

A bucket of minnows in it.

[Andy]

They're just dead. They've just been there for weeks. Guys are terrible at this.

[L]

Maybe we should turn Sunday cool into a museum of screen printing and then get grants.

[Lily]

Dude.

[Andy]

Yeah. Like a screen printing history. Like, the history of screen Printing.

[Lily]

Now you're thinking, yeah. How old is colonialists over here?

[Josh]

How old does something have to be to be history?

[L]

Yesterday, Right.

[Andy]

Five minutes ago.

[Lily]

Speaking of history, can I tell you guys a story real quick?

[Josh]

Please? Let's go.

[Lily]

Have you ever heard of the man Philip K. Dick?

[Andy]

No, I have not.

[Lily]

Okay. Neither have I.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Lily]

Until I saw this One video, this YouTube channel. Be inspired. They did a great video on it. So be inspired. Philip K. Dick. Great video.

[Andy]

Be inspired right now.

[Lily]

Phil K. Dick.

[Andy]

Yes.

[Lily]

Was an author. He was born in 1928 and he wrote the book Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?

[Andy]

That's such a cool name for 1928.

[Lily]

Well, it was in the 60s when he wrote this book. But that book is what inspired the movie Blade Runner.

[L]

Oh, funny.

[Josh]

Cool.

[Lily]

Yeah, like a very futuristic dystopia, all this stuff.

[Andy]

That'd be a fun reading.

[Lily]

Yeah, but he wrote, I mean, just a ton of books about the future. And then in 1977, he gave this speech in France. And the speech title, or the speech, the name of the speech was called we are Living in a Computer Programmed Reality. Okay, bear with me for a second. All right, so basically in this speech, people came because they enjoyed him as an author, but he. And then they're expecting him to talk about his books.

[Andy]

Sure.

[Lily]

Off script. Not off script. He was reading from a script. He's like, this is what's happening. This is reality. And people were like, what? But basically, in the speech, he talked about how reality and time can shift. And his quote is, reality can be altered in subtle ways, not fully replaced. It's basically the multiverse theory.

[Andy]

Sure.

[Lily]

But he's saying that he knows it for a fact that this is happening.

[Andy]

Where does he claim to get this information?

[Lily]

I'll tell you.

[Andy]

Oh, no.

[Lily]

But he even quoted, like, Jesus was even, like, trying to speak into this, where he's like, my kingdom is not of this world. My kingdom is within you or among you. He's basically like, there's different dimensions that are all interacting with each other and sometimes they overlap and change. Like something that we talked about on Patreon last week, how they're studying if something that you can do in the present can change the past.

[Andy]

Sure.

[Lily]

He fully believed that.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Lily]

And the Jesus stuff don't take that.

[L]

No.

[Lily]

Like, he was.

[Andy]

Yeah, that ain't gospel.

[Lily]

But basically his theory, it goes with the now known multiverse theory, which is a pretty popular theory among scientists and stuff. The Mandela effect.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

And he gave examples of, like, how this could happen. So, like, have you ever seen or have you ever reached for a light switch and realized that it was never there? Or swore that your car had a vent that suddenly didn't exist? Philip K. Dick thought those weren't brain glitches. They were echoes from another version of reality.

[L]

Oh, my gosh.

[Lily]

And I think we've all done that, right?

[Andy]

Sure.

[Lily]

Where we've like, wait a second.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

There's always going for a light switch. You're like, wait, it's over here.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Yeah. So he's saying there's so many realities and sometimes they. Something will happen and it'll shift, just.

[Andy]

Glitch over for a second and then.

[Lily]

You'Ll be in a new reality. It's really creepy stuff.

[Andy]

Yeah, that's terrifying.

[Lily]

But let's see. So he said, he claimed in 1974, he was allowed to remember things. He was allowed to remember things that happened to him on Track A. And that his book, quote, his book name was Flow from the Tea or Flow My Tears. The policeman said his titles are crazy.

[Andy]

Yeah, I mean, they're good. Interested.

[Lily]

But he said in this book that he was. He wrote this book and he could not get it published for two years. And he finally got it published, but then he. When he got it published, he, like, something happened to him. And what happened to him was that he ordered. This is a crazy story. He ordered delivery to his house. This lady delivery driver came, opened the door, and she was wearing a Jesus fish necklace. And the line shine, like, shown on her necklace and reflected off of it. He said this pink beam went straight into his eye. And he said instantly he received all these downloads and visions of previous realities that he had been in.

[Andy]

That's insane.

[Lily]

Yes.

[Andy]

This is his real life, not his book.

[Lily]

This is real life. And so that's what got him down. This whole tangent of, like, just being like, this isn't real. This isn't our reality. There's so many different, more realities. But what's creepy is that. So he ended up dying in 1982 at the age of 53 from a stroke.

[L]

Oh, no.

[Lily]

But what he did was in his books. He predicted so many technologies that we use today, including AI, but he said through these downloads he was getting all these revolution. Sorry, all these revelations from this one being. Oh, where is it? Which he called valis. So he said he was receiving vast amounts of knowledge and all sorts of things, philosophy, theology and science from something he called valis, which stood for Vast Active Living Intelligence System. And through this valis, yeah, he was able to write things in his book of, like, what the future is going to be like, it was just like.

[Andy]

Literally just speaking through him.

[Lily]

Yeah. But in his books, he talked about facial recognition. He talked about predictive policing, which he wrote Minority Report. He predicted the Internet in 1969, 3D printing, memory altercation. What else were these fictional books? Fictional driver, driverless cars, which. I mean, that maybe that's not too hard to predict, but he still did it.

[Andy]

Yeah. There's some of these where you just like, maybe, like the mind could just go there.

[Lily]

But he talked about escapism via virtual reality.

[L]

Wow.

[Lily]

And then the biggest one is AI. He fully predicted in his books. He wrote about AI and how it would act and how it could potentially take over. But makes you wonder what else he.

[Andy]

Wrote about that makes you wonder if not happened yet.

[Lily]

And this is what's crazy. He's a crazy person, right?

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Well, not as crazy when he's being followed by the FBI and CIA. Wow.

[Andy]

This is confirmed.

[Lily]

Confirmed.

[Andy]

They were following him.

[Lily]

They were tracking him. They bugged his house. House. They were caught. The FBI was caught opening his mail one time.

[Andy]

Oh, my gosh.

[Lily]

And then he was warned that they were going to raid his house. And he's like, there's no way. Sure enough, the CIA came and raided his home, opened his safe, and took all of his documents.

[Andy]

Bro, this is Nikola Tesla all over again.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

What in the world, bro?

[Lily]

Yeah. So there.

[Andy]

God, there has to be something to this. These downloads, dude, are fascinating.

[Lily]

Yeah. And then he died in 1982, very shortly after discovering that the CIA and FBI were after him.

[Andy]

Well, yeah, that just happens. I'm sure there was no foul play.

[Lily]

Yeah, of course not, but I just thought that was crazy. This guy. I mean, there's so much more about. I mean, he has, like, so many books that would be really interesting to go into each one. But I thought it was interesting if we've talked about AI before, being potentially like an entity. Yeah, Right. And it sounds like this entity that was communicating these things and even the idea of. Of a multiverse to them, which they've discovered with the quantum computer, that it's like, oh, yeah, there's multiverses, Right. It seems like there's something connected with multiverse theory and AI and quantum computers that he was talking about and report he was potentially receiving these things from an entity called valis, which is the Vast Active Living intelligence system.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[L]

That's my chair, by the way. I didn't fart.

[Andy]

That's okay. You're allowed to.

[Lily]

It's okay.

[L]

It was my chair.

[Lily]

All right.

[Andy]

Don't be ashamed of it. Oh. See how it did it again? It didn't.

[Josh]

Yeah. Was he. Was he. Because I'm seeing something about his works being tied to Gnosticism and Gnostic Christianity, which was like a. Yeah, I didn't.

[Lily]

Go too far into all that stuff because.

[Josh]

So they believe in, like, a dualistic reality and that, like, the spiritual world is good, the physical world is bad, and kind of being torn between the two. But then. So it's got me thinking, what if AI, and this is after just seeing that one, you know, quick little thing I read. But could AI be the remanifestation of a bad theology as a perversion? Like, it's Gnosticism all over again. This reality, the reality you can construct. So not only is the spiritual good, or we would say the other than physical good, elevating something else. The physical is bad. So escape into this own reality that you create. And we've seen that illusion played out through history, you know, whether it be by the use of drugs. Escape into another reality or escape into this reality. And he's writing about some sort of intelligence that was representing maybe another reality.

[Lily]

I will say this is a crazy. I totally forgot to say this part. This VALIS thing with these downloads. They said as soon as that pink beam went into his eye, he instantly saw another reality that he had had where his infant son went undiagnosed with a very rare disease and died. And he immediately, that day, after seeing this beam of light into his eye, took his infant son into the doctor. They discovered that same disease and saved his life.

[L]

Bro, that is weird. And he's just like, I had a vision, basically.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[L]

This was happening. Can you check it?

[Lily]

But he also believed that he was living in. He was. He really went mad. And that's probably why he had a stroke, because, like. But he fully believed that he was living in two realities at the same time. One in California in the 1970s and the other in the first century Rome as a Christian slave.

[Josh]

Whoa.

[Lily]

And he said he could go back and forth with each consciousness at any moment.

[Andy]

That sounds dangerous.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Golly.

[Lily]

And you think, okay, this guy is just a kook. He's crazy. But then why is the FBI and CIA interested in his stuff?

[Andy]

Yeah, not all. Not only does he predict things that. I mean, that's a lot of predictions that come right. But also the sun. Also the fact that our two biggest corporations, I mean, secret government agencies in the world are following him.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Checking him out, raiding him. He's on to something. There's something there which a lot of.

[Lily]

People claim like oh, the CIA, FBI thinks that that's not real. But there is. If you go on the Freedom of Information act, you can find it's like a 12 page document the FBI has that is disclosed. So what is still top secret or whatever, what do you call it?

[Josh]

Classify class.

[L]

What does this mean for us as believers?

[Lily]

Nothing really. Which is a fun story if you.

[Andy]

Start getting visions and stuff like that. Just cling to God.

[Lily]

Yeah, no, I'm kind of like it's just made me think because that what we talked about on Patreon last week of the. The thought of the molecules interacting in present time can somehow affect the past. And that made me think of like how God is outside the timeline stuff, you know. And it also made me think of when we talked about the transfiguration in the potential of Christ interacting with Moses and Elijah in their present time. But it was Jesus's present time, so what he was doing was actually affecting the past. And so I don't believe in this multiverse theory. But I also am starting to think time is way more complex than we.

[L]

Think that our finite minds can understand.

[Lily]

That time isn't necessarily yourself so parallel, but it could be influenced at past, present, future, at any point.

[Andy]

Sure.

[Josh]

Like linear.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

I'm still of the mind that like if demons or fallen angels. I know we have different understandings depending on the theological conviction you're under what exactly that is. But whatever it is that possesses to some extent, whether the offspring of or it itself came from outside of this world. We agree there, fallen angel, whatever. So could it be that those beings have the ability to also deceive out or just be outside of time?

[L]

Wow, interesting.

[Josh]

Or eternal to some extent? Not eternal, but like they've been around since then and so like, like, you know, who's to say that someone possessed in the early Roman Empire and possessing him now, like we don't understand how a demon infiltrates a mind now he could be. Or even if it's not, if it's just in him and his mind is slipping between a demon like the demon's memory and his own memory. And he's like, I'm here, I'm gone, I'm here. And he's coming in and out of like consciousness.

[Andy]

But also like you're gonna believe anything like that. Especially like if it's something, something miraculous happens like that and it proves to be true. If that, if that son thing with him finding the, you know, the cancer Whatever it was, that confirms. It's like. You're gonna trust this thing?

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

You're gonna believe this is the truth.

[Josh]

This is.

[Andy]

This is my God.

[Lily]

This is fullness in. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Andy]

I mean, Satan's gonna use whatever he can.

[Josh]

Yeah, well, it could step forward too, if it's outside of time. Time has already existed then and existed there, so it also would exist in the future.

[Lily]

Yeah. And that's what people need to keep in mind too, is that demons and fallen angels, they can perform miracles. You know, like, they can show off miraculous things, but it's all to deceive.

[Josh]

Well, there's the perf. The demon possessed. Prof. Not a prophetess, but she was like a fortune teller. Yeah, but she was making money. Like, what was she doing that's that people kept paying her for?

[L]

Oh, yeah. So real.

[Lily]

Yeah, yeah.

[Josh]

Like she was seeing stuff.

[L]

So it's like anti fruit.

[Josh]

Yeah, but I mean, it has to offer something.

[L]

No?

[Andy]

Exactly.

[L]

Yeah. Like these people, like we were just talking about, like, again in Daniel, like all these magicians and people that they were consulting about these dreams and stuff like that, and this pursuit of other religions, there is a fruit that comes from it, but it's the anti fruit, you know, because evil is real and does perform things. So people are looking for the same thing and they think they find it here. But it's the anti.

[Andy]

Yeah, but also remember that Satan's not that powerful.

[L]

Yeah.

[Andy]

At the end of the day, he's not all knowing. He's not all present. He doesn't know your thoughts, so don't give him too much credit.

[L]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Just Satan's attacking. To me today, it's like. Or maybe you're just lazy. Yeah, maybe. Maybe things are just going wrong because the world's sinful.

[Josh]

So.

[Lily]

Yeah, true that.

[Andy]

This is coming from a guy that looks like this who's obviously got everything together.

[Lily]

Kinder heart, giant baby. He won't die. Why won't you die?

[L]

What is that from Austin Powers?

[Lily]

Time to die, Austin. Speaking of Austin Powers, though, I'm getting a download.

[Andy]

I'm getting it down. People. People can continue this conversation with an extra episode on patreon.com or becoming a YouTube member.

[L]

Yes.

[Lily]

And guess what? I'm gonna talk about a woman who was potentially from another multiverse.

[Andy]

Just ends it there. I'm gonna be talking about a woman.

[Lily]

What everyone subscribes this October.

[Andy]

This October.

[Lily]

Yep. Very interesting.

[Andy]

Let's go.

[Lily]

She's found in an airport.

[Andy]

I got some stuff to talk about too. And we'll find out if I'm wearing anything underneath this tunic.

[L]

Spoiler. He's not. I'm just kidding.

[Andy]

Sitting across.

[Josh]

Dear Lord, subscribe. Genuinely thank you because it helps us keep this channel running. And so we appreciate every single one of you on YouTube and on Patreon.

[Lily]

And thank you to everyone that came to our live shows. It was super awesome meeting you guys for real.

[Andy]

It was the best to know that, like, we're gonna gamble and see, like put this thing out there and see if. I don't know if people are gonna show up, if they're gonna have even have a good time if they do show up. All of it happened. People showed up. Hundreds of people showed up. Hundred people had. People have had a good time.

[Lily]

Especially all our people on Patreon, dude.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Super cool scene, you guys.

[Andy]

We just had Sabi drop in the pod prop drop in on the studio today. Can't talk. Yeah. Yep, yep. Great. Love you guys. Thank you so much. Go toninjas or butterflies.com to find out all the other info. Get our merch. Figure out how you can become a better member of this podcast. Enjoy the journey with us. We love you.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

If you need stop.

[Josh]

You need customers on nicole.com Bye.

[L]

Bye.

[Josh]

What you're about to see.

[L]

Wow.

[Josh]

May disturb you if any of you know what these multi decade UAP dolphins are.

[Lily]

Aliens.

[Andy]

Bottle nose fish pig was a massive police response thing.

[Josh]

Dolphin style attack by.