Ninjas Are Butterflies - Episode 167

Title: What’s Under the White House, The Evil Alligator King, & Fixing the NBA
Date: November 7, 2025
Hosts: Josh Hooper, Andy DeNoon, Taylor, Lily
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This wild episode is a true smorgasbord of comedy, conspiracy, folklore, and current events. The Ninjas Are Butterflies crew takes listeners on a rollercoaster, ranging from shady renovations under the White House and a crime thriller-worthy Louvre jewel heist, to the bizarre tale of Florida’s “Alligator King” shapeshifter, NBA game-fixing with mafia ties, and more. Hilarious banter, fake ads, and unfiltered commentary keep the energy up, while moments of genuine reflection offer an unexpected dose of depth.

Main Discussion Themes & Key Segments

1. Conspiracies and Current Events

A. The White House 'Ballroom' – Data Center or Deep State Bunker?

• [39:16 – 44:10]
  • Trump is supposedly building a 90,000 sq ft “ballroom” for over $300 million.
  • Josh: “...the estimate at first was it was going to be 200 million, which is a lot. Now it’s going to be upwards of over 300 million… That is equivalent to $3,330 a square foot—which is psycho.” [41:45]
  • Funding reportedly comes from big tech (Google, Apple, Amazon, Meta, Microsoft, Lockheed Martin, Palantir, T-Mobile).
  • Hosts speculate the “ballroom” is a front for a secret underground data center or bunker, drawing parallels to a real Israeli data center built 160 ft underground.
  • General unease about corporations blending further into government infrastructure.
  • Andrew: “Now you have privatized corporations are now involved in building aspects of the White House… that’s just brazen at this point.” [43:54]

B. Louvre Jewel Heist – Ocean’s Eleven Goes French

• [15:36 – 25:12]
  • Recent real-life heist at the Louvre covered with humor and amazement.
  • Thieves dressed as construction workers, exploited surveillance blind spots, and escaped on scooters after trying to torch their truck.
  • Arrests made, but most of the jewelry still missing.
  • Josh: “It was like an Ocean’s movie, dude.” [22:09]
  • Lily: “Everybody’s saying AI could never make this up.” [24:36]
  • French detective on the case becomes a meme for his odd outfit.

C. Government Shutdowns, Chemtrails & AI-Driven Collapse

• [26:03 – 39:10]
  • Chat about the shutdown’s impact on flights, food stamps, and public workers still having to work without pay.
  • Allusion to a meme (if the 'slaves' realized their numbers, they’d revolt).
  • Chemtrail sightings and theories rekindled as it starts raining amid government inactivity.
  • Big internet outages (Amazon Web Services down), raising concerns about digital infrastructure and “soft” cyber-warfare.
  • Josh: “It just shows how vulnerable we are... one key piece fails, many downstream services suffer.” [37:50]

2. Health & Wellness Sidequest: Testosterone & Functional Medicine

[04:45 – 14:07]

• Hosts introduce their year-long “glow up” with Genesis Health Solutions.
• Hormone imbalance (especially low testosterone) discussed as a major men’s health issue.
• Personal stories about physical and mental health journeys; plans to document transformation over 12 months.
• Lily: “This is like the missing puzzle piece. I can’t wait. We’re on a physical journey, a mental journey, a spiritual journey—all of it.” [07:48]
• Advice for young men to get checked, with some serious facts about declining testosterone in younger generations.

3. Music & Culture Flashbacks

• Hilarious song parody about “pooping your pants” to the tune of Taking Back Sunday.
  • [12:39 – 13:45] Best quote:
    Andrew (singing): “And then I just pooped my pants so badly, in front of everyone I know...” [13:24]
• Nostalgia for MySpace and its founder Tom, with reflections on lost innocence in social media.
  • Andrew: “I should have stuck with MySpace… at least Tom wasn’t in on all this corporate stuff.” [44:14]

4. Dark & Thought-Provoking Interludes

A. Human Trafficking Realities

• [29:36 – 34:52]
  • Hosts get serious, discussing human trafficking, modern slavery, and shocking real-life stories, such as slaves on US farms.
  • Lily: “It’s happening right in front of us...” [32:31]
  • Technology's connection to forced labor/human rights violations.

B. The Alligator King: Florida Folklore

• [88:07 – 95:10]
  • Deep dive into Florida legend: Uncle Monday, an escaped enslaved African who practiced “hoodoo,” could shapeshift into an alligator, became king of the local gators, and is still rumored to haunt local swamps.
  • Hoodoo explained as an occult blend of African, bible-based, and European folk magic—not quite voodoo.
  • Uncle Monday’s domain is believed to be around Lake Dora—coincidentally, the podcast is recorded there!
  • Josh: “…So legend has it he’s still out there… Uncle Monday is still a gator somewhere in the swamps in Florida.” [92:00]
  • Taylor: (reading live research) “Lake Dora is considered Uncle Monday’s swamp—his sacred ground, the place where he’s still said to rise when thunder rolls across the water.” [95:22]
  • Links to global shapeshifter/skinwalker myths and grim African stories about witch doctors.

5. Conspiracies & Speculation: Aliens, Comets, and Global Deception

[77:09 – 82:40]

• Updates on the “3i Atlas,” a mysterious interstellar object/comet that some believe could be alien tech.
• One Harvard astronomer claims it will swing around the sun and possibly come toward Earth.
• Blend of doomsday worry and skeptical humor; tie-in to past alien disclosure prophecies.
• Josh: “But what we do know is that it’s super weird, it’s super big, and it’s just doing all these anomalies that ... go against standard comet behavior.” [81:38]

6. NBA Game Fixing & Mafia Connections

[67:54 – 72:46]

• The recent FBI bust on NBA players, coaches, and the Italian mafia for widespread game-fixing.
• Specific names dropped—allegedly—like Chauncey Billups.
• Discussion of gambling normalization and the danger it poses for younger generations.
• Andrew: “This is so much deeper than we know… so many people are involved, I guarantee it.” [70:12]

7. Lighter Side: Absurd Would-You-Rather & Gross-Out Corner

[58:08 – 62:42]

• Lily’s wild “Would you rather”:
  • Would you rather have to eat every booger you produce (via a straw from nose to mouth) or always pee your pants?
  • Hilarious debate ensues.
  • Andrew: “After a while, it’s an acquired taste... probably pair well with some foods.” [60:13]
• Reaction videos: hosts squeal and gag at viral TikTok gross-outs (rotten banana, etc.).

8. Bonus Comedy, Tangents, & Memorable Quotes

Best Quotes:

• Josh: “We’re just living in a movie, dude.” (on news feeling unreal) [68:02]
• Lily: “If you’re gonna make your own gummy, why not make it dye-free?” [26:03]
• Taylor: “That’s the unholy trinity—African herbal medicine, Bible verses, and European folk magic.” [89:33]
• Andrew: “If you had to pick just one crime, a jewelry heist at a museum—not a bad one...” [24:28]
• Lily: “I would never in my life swim in Lake Dora—not only is it riddled with alligators, it’s also heavily polluted.” [95:41]

Timestamps for Key Segments

• White House ‘Ballroom’ Conspiracy: 39:16 – 44:10
• Louvre Heist Recount: 15:36 – 25:12
• Testosterone Health Journey: 04:45 – 14:07
• Alligator King Folklore: 88:07 – 95:10
• NBA Game-Fixing Scandal: 67:54 – 72:46
• Alien Comet Speculation: 77:09 – 82:40
• Would-You-Rather & Video Reactions: 58:08 – 62:42

Tone & Style

• Language: Conversational, irreverent, and fast-paced with running inside jokes, self-deprecating humor, and sharp-witted pop culture commentary.
• Atmosphere: A mix of late-night talk show, conspiracy roundtable, and millennial/Gen Z nostalgia-fest. Balances outlandish bits with pockets of sincerity.
• Audience: Listeners who love wild stories, skeptical laughs, and authentic, unpredictable podcast energy.

Summary Takeaway

Episode 167 of Ninjas Are Butterflies is a hilarious, frantic blend of everything from off-the-wall conspiracy theory to gritty true crime, Florida man folklore, and wild Internet culture. The hosts manage somehow to tie together discussions of alleged hidden bunkers under the White House, the mythic “gator king” Uncle Monday, government cover-ups, and NBA-mob collusion—all without breaking tone. If you want a crash course in weird news, legends, and unfiltered comic banter, this episode’s a must-listen.

For next episode clues:

• Teased upcoming guests with cryptic “dolphin attack” references and a promise of deeper Patreon content.

“Boogers or pee pee?”

• Per their own instructions—if you listened, leave that as a YouTube comment!