167 - What's Under the White House, The Evil Alligator King, & Fixing the NBA

Summary

Ninjas Are Butterflies - Episode 167

Title: What’s Under the White House, The Evil Alligator King, & Fixing the NBA
Date: November 7, 2025
Hosts: Josh Hooper, Andy DeNoon, Taylor, Lily
Theme:
This wild episode is a true smorgasbord of comedy, conspiracy, folklore, and current events. The Ninjas Are Butterflies crew takes listeners on a rollercoaster, ranging from shady renovations under the White House and a crime thriller-worthy Louvre jewel heist, to the bizarre tale of Florida’s “Alligator King” shapeshifter, NBA game-fixing with mafia ties, and more. Hilarious banter, fake ads, and unfiltered commentary keep the energy up, while moments of genuine reflection offer an unexpected dose of depth.

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Main Discussion Themes & Key Segments

1. Conspiracies and Current Events

A. The White House 'Ballroom' – Data Center or Deep State Bunker?

• [39:16 – 44:10]
  • Trump is supposedly building a 90,000 sq ft “ballroom” for over $300 million.
  • Josh: “...the estimate at first was it was going to be 200 million, which is a lot. Now it’s going to be upwards of over 300 million… That is equivalent to $3,330 a square foot—which is psycho.” [41:45]
  • Funding reportedly comes from big tech (Google, Apple, Amazon, Meta, Microsoft, Lockheed Martin, Palantir, T-Mobile).
  • Hosts speculate the “ballroom” is a front for a secret underground data center or bunker, drawing parallels to a real Israeli data center built 160 ft underground.
  • General unease about corporations blending further into government infrastructure.
  • Andrew: “Now you have privatized corporations are now involved in building aspects of the White House… that’s just brazen at this point.” [43:54]

B. Louvre Jewel Heist – Ocean’s Eleven Goes French

• [15:36 – 25:12]
  • Recent real-life heist at the Louvre covered with humor and amazement.
  • Thieves dressed as construction workers, exploited surveillance blind spots, and escaped on scooters after trying to torch their truck.
  • Arrests made, but most of the jewelry still missing.
  • Josh: “It was like an Ocean’s movie, dude.” [22:09]
  • Lily: “Everybody’s saying AI could never make this up.” [24:36]
  • French detective on the case becomes a meme for his odd outfit.

C. Government Shutdowns, Chemtrails & AI-Driven Collapse

• [26:03 – 39:10]
  • Chat about the shutdown’s impact on flights, food stamps, and public workers still having to work without pay.
  • Allusion to a meme (if the 'slaves' realized their numbers, they’d revolt).
  • Chemtrail sightings and theories rekindled as it starts raining amid government inactivity.
  • Big internet outages (Amazon Web Services down), raising concerns about digital infrastructure and “soft” cyber-warfare.
  • Josh: “It just shows how vulnerable we are... one key piece fails, many downstream services suffer.” [37:50]

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2. Health & Wellness Sidequest: Testosterone & Functional Medicine

[04:45 – 14:07]

• Hosts introduce their year-long “glow up” with Genesis Health Solutions.
• Hormone imbalance (especially low testosterone) discussed as a major men’s health issue.
• Personal stories about physical and mental health journeys; plans to document transformation over 12 months.
• Lily: “This is like the missing puzzle piece. I can’t wait. We’re on a physical journey, a mental journey, a spiritual journey—all of it.” [07:48]
• Advice for young men to get checked, with some serious facts about declining testosterone in younger generations.

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3. Music & Culture Flashbacks

• Hilarious song parody about “pooping your pants” to the tune of Taking Back Sunday.
  • [12:39 – 13:45] Best quote:
    Andrew (singing): “And then I just pooped my pants so badly, in front of everyone I know...” [13:24]
• Nostalgia for MySpace and its founder Tom, with reflections on lost innocence in social media.
  • Andrew: “I should have stuck with MySpace… at least Tom wasn’t in on all this corporate stuff.” [44:14]

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4. Dark & Thought-Provoking Interludes

A. Human Trafficking Realities

• [29:36 – 34:52]
  • Hosts get serious, discussing human trafficking, modern slavery, and shocking real-life stories, such as slaves on US farms.
  • Lily: “It’s happening right in front of us...” [32:31]
  • Technology's connection to forced labor/human rights violations.

B. The Alligator King: Florida Folklore

• [88:07 – 95:10]
  • Deep dive into Florida legend: Uncle Monday, an escaped enslaved African who practiced “hoodoo,” could shapeshift into an alligator, became king of the local gators, and is still rumored to haunt local swamps.
  • Hoodoo explained as an occult blend of African, bible-based, and European folk magic—not quite voodoo.
  • Uncle Monday’s domain is believed to be around Lake Dora—coincidentally, the podcast is recorded there!
  • Josh: “…So legend has it he’s still out there… Uncle Monday is still a gator somewhere in the swamps in Florida.” [92:00]
  • Taylor: (reading live research) “Lake Dora is considered Uncle Monday’s swamp—his sacred ground, the place where he’s still said to rise when thunder rolls across the water.” [95:22]
  • Links to global shapeshifter/skinwalker myths and grim African stories about witch doctors.

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5. Conspiracies & Speculation: Aliens, Comets, and Global Deception

[77:09 – 82:40]

• Updates on the “3i Atlas,” a mysterious interstellar object/comet that some believe could be alien tech.
• One Harvard astronomer claims it will swing around the sun and possibly come toward Earth.
• Blend of doomsday worry and skeptical humor; tie-in to past alien disclosure prophecies.
• Josh: “But what we do know is that it’s super weird, it’s super big, and it’s just doing all these anomalies that ... go against standard comet behavior.” [81:38]

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6. NBA Game Fixing & Mafia Connections

[67:54 – 72:46]

• The recent FBI bust on NBA players, coaches, and the Italian mafia for widespread game-fixing.
• Specific names dropped—allegedly—like Chauncey Billups.
• Discussion of gambling normalization and the danger it poses for younger generations.
• Andrew: “This is so much deeper than we know… so many people are involved, I guarantee it.” [70:12]

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7. Lighter Side: Absurd Would-You-Rather & Gross-Out Corner

[58:08 – 62:42]

• Lily’s wild “Would you rather”:
  • Would you rather have to eat every booger you produce (via a straw from nose to mouth) or always pee your pants?
  • Hilarious debate ensues.
  • Andrew: “After a while, it’s an acquired taste... probably pair well with some foods.” [60:13]
• Reaction videos: hosts squeal and gag at viral TikTok gross-outs (rotten banana, etc.).

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8. Bonus Comedy, Tangents, & Memorable Quotes

Best Quotes:

• Josh: “We’re just living in a movie, dude.” (on news feeling unreal) [68:02]
• Lily: “If you’re gonna make your own gummy, why not make it dye-free?” [26:03]
• Taylor: “That’s the unholy trinity—African herbal medicine, Bible verses, and European folk magic.” [89:33]
• Andrew: “If you had to pick just one crime, a jewelry heist at a museum—not a bad one...” [24:28]
• Lily: “I would never in my life swim in Lake Dora—not only is it riddled with alligators, it’s also heavily polluted.” [95:41]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• White House ‘Ballroom’ Conspiracy: 39:16 – 44:10
• Louvre Heist Recount: 15:36 – 25:12
• Testosterone Health Journey: 04:45 – 14:07
• Alligator King Folklore: 88:07 – 95:10
• NBA Game-Fixing Scandal: 67:54 – 72:46
• Alien Comet Speculation: 77:09 – 82:40
• Would-You-Rather & Video Reactions: 58:08 – 62:42

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Tone & Style

• Language: Conversational, irreverent, and fast-paced with running inside jokes, self-deprecating humor, and sharp-witted pop culture commentary.
• Atmosphere: A mix of late-night talk show, conspiracy roundtable, and millennial/Gen Z nostalgia-fest. Balances outlandish bits with pockets of sincerity.
• Audience: Listeners who love wild stories, skeptical laughs, and authentic, unpredictable podcast energy.

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Summary Takeaway

Episode 167 of Ninjas Are Butterflies is a hilarious, frantic blend of everything from off-the-wall conspiracy theory to gritty true crime, Florida man folklore, and wild Internet culture. The hosts manage somehow to tie together discussions of alleged hidden bunkers under the White House, the mythic “gator king” Uncle Monday, government cover-ups, and NBA-mob collusion—all without breaking tone. If you want a crash course in weird news, legends, and unfiltered comic banter, this episode’s a must-listen.

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For next episode clues:

• Teased upcoming guests with cryptic “dolphin attack” references and a promise of deeper Patreon content.

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“Boogers or pee pee?”

• Per their own instructions—if you listened, leave that as a YouTube comment!

Transcript

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Kobe.

[Andrew]

Listen, the NBA just got busted because they're fixing games. And guess who's involved? The Italian mafia.

[Taylor]

And is Trump really building a ballroom or is there something else going on beneath the surface?

[Josh]

Have you heard of the King of the Alligators? Well, guess what? He's right in our backyard. We're going to tell you all about it.

[Taylor]

Very scary.

[Lily]

This podcast is brought to you and powered by Sunday. Cool. Watch this or listen. You should do that, though.

[Andrew]

I was lip syncing.

[Josh]

I'm a sensory guy.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Can you turn my. My ears up a little? One, one, one, one, one, one. Yeah. Yeah.

[Lily]

You guys got candy under there?

[Andrew]

Yeah, for Mr. Kyle Gray. He came and he gave us some gifts and brought Josh some candy for his birthday.

[Lily]

He asked me what you wanted. He texted me before he came and I said, lima beans. I was about to let him show up and give you lima beans.

[Josh]

Terrible.

[Andrew]

Wait till you see what I got Josh for his birthday. I just showed him. I got him some. A whole Sandero, like, big love box.

[Lily]

That's so nice.

[Andrew]

Including a Sandero bathrobe.

[Lily]

Shut up.

[Andrew]

It's pretty cool. I can't wait to touch it and see how it feels.

[Lily]

He asked me years ago to get him this specific bathrobe. And I've searched. I have poured over our text messages, our Instagram messages, and the link is not there.

[Josh]

It looks very Japanese, too.

[Lily]

Oh, yeah, yeah, it's gone forever. So he never got one.

[Josh]

Speaking of gifts, look at this. Look what we got sent.

[Andrew]

So shout out Hunter Harlow from Sendero. You guys are the best.

[Josh]

Yeah, which he might come on the pod. I've been. No way. Yeah, please.

[Lily]

Is he the Sendero guy? Yeah, his line. His spaghetti Western, new line.

[Andrew]

They're incredible.

[Lily]

Insane.

[Andrew]

I mean, it's like the Whataburger stuff.

[Lily]

Amazing.

[Andrew]

Okay, this is insane.

[Josh]

Look at this. So this was sent to us, says Ironclad, which is Sean Ryan's new show.

[Lily]

Cool.

[Josh]

Watch this.

[Taylor]

What the heck?

[Andrew]

What?

[Lily]

What the heck?

[Taylor]

Thank you for being who you are.

[Josh]

So it's his new trailer for his the show called Saya.

[Taylor]

Watch the trailers inside.

[Lily]

Come closer.

[Josh]

It's on. I'll show you later.

[Lily]

That's nuts.

[Andrew]

Isn't that awesome?

[Taylor]

The craziest box I've ever seen.

[Lily]

Wait, why did they send it to you guys?

[Andrew]

Because they love us and Sean's our best friend.

[Josh]

Yeah, that's great. We might get one of the. The guys that's. That helps produce that show on the pod. That's awesome because he. He knows a lot of stuff. Yeah, but they sent us their gummy bears that they're always talking about on the show.

[Taylor]

Cool.

[Lily]

What are those gummy bears do?

[Andrew]

I've always want to take one right now.

[Lily]

Wait, be careful.

[Andrew]

I'll take one right now.

[Lily]

What if it makes you super masculine?

[Andrew]

It's like 100 milligrams of like, THC.

[Taylor]

Sean Ryan.

[Andrew]

We didn't know you were into this.

[Josh]

It's literally just gummy bears. Oh, I thought it was energy. No, it's just gummy bears. It says corn syrup sugar. Yeah, just gummy bears. But he says it's legal in all 50 states. Every time he says it, you're like, what are.

[Taylor]

What are those?

[Josh]

Gummy bears. They're just gummy bears.

[Andrew]

That is the. That's true.

[Lily]

What if it's got something in it?

[Andrew]

Funny thing to say.

[Josh]

And then no active ingredient. Fanny pack. That is a. What do you call it? The emf.

[Lily]

Stop it right now.

[Taylor]

Oh, sick. You block your stuff.

[Josh]

Yeah, you can throw your phone in it.

[Lily]

What a cool dude.

[Andrew]

These gummy bears.

[Lily]

Marketing program.

[Taylor]

And let me grab one.

[Josh]

500 bucks.

[Andrew]

They're made of dairy, though.

[Lily]

For $10.

[Josh]

No, this is real.

[Lily]

Why they send us 500 so we.

[Josh]

Would talk about it.

[Lily]

That's pretend.

[Josh]

I'm just kidding. I put these in before.

[Lily]

That box is sick. We need to do that for Sunday school.

[Josh]

And that's sick.

[Andrew]

It's so funny that you brought prop money because I literally stacked myself full up for prop money.

[Josh]

Thanks, dad.

[Andrew]

Yep.

[Lily]

Let me try.

[Josh]

But yeah, super cool.

[Lily]

What is it?

[Andrew]

Super good gummy bears, Sean.

[Lily]

I'm sure you guys have seen the. The Amazon reviews for the Hasbro gummy bears because they people eat like half the bag and then they can't stop pooping. Have you ever seen. No, they're like a laxative.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

We need to read some of these reviews.

[Lily]

Oh, they're so funny. They're like, I was eating this, you know, watching A movie not anticipating the lava.

[Andrew]

Okay, let's write Patreon. Let's do that. That would be a fun thing. Just let's go some. There's some fun reviews.

[Josh]

You got it.

[Lily]

I mean, it's hard.

[Josh]

Speaking of Patreon, we are going to do something on Patreon.

[Andrew]

So we're going to take my blood.

[Josh]

We're going to take Andy's blood. Recently, this is not a sponsor, but it kind of is because these guys are really hooking us up. It's a genesis health solution.

[Andrew]

They realize how unhealthy we are and we talk about all the time doing like competitions and stuff and like trying to get healthy and trying to do better.

[Josh]

But what they do is they send you a blood sample. It's this whole Interact thing. It's owned and operated by veterans do. Okay, so really cool dudes were in contact with Philip, who's awesome, is the best. He's working in intelligence, I believe.

[Taylor]

So just just to hear this correctly, we're taking people from the agencies that we conspire against at times.

[Andrew]

Sure.

[Taylor]

We propagate conspiracies from. And now you're giving them your blood.

[Josh]

Yeah. The retired.

[Andrew]

They're nice though.

[Taylor]

Cool.

[Josh]

They are nice.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

But what they do, it's really cool. It's like this whole online program to where you. It's all about like hormone therapy. Like getting all your levels back to where they are.

[Taylor]

Yeah, yeah.

[Josh]

But they also do like health and fitness. So you get a coach with that. Which we're getting a coach to help with health and fitness. I've already discussion that I'm super low on my manly hormone. I'll call it that Testosterone crazy low.

[Andrew]

And they said you're like, you're quadruple the amount of estrogen than a normal woman as well, which is weird.

[Josh]

That's why I've been crying so much.

[Andrew]

Yeah, you're super sensitive.

[Lily]

And so imagine though, like, you're so manly right now. Imagine when your levels are normal.

[Josh]

I know, it's gonna be crazy.

[Andrew]

Well, I'm thinking, I think you're gonna hate it. There's just outside chopping wood constantly.

[Lily]

I know.

[Andrew]

On a red meat diet all the time.

[Josh]

There's not a lot of research that I could find. But I wonder if a lot of my anxiety issues are because my testosterone is so low.

[Lily]

100%.

[Taylor]

Because women worry because they're always anxious.

[Lily]

Everybody stop it right now.

[Josh]

No, but we're super stoked and we do have a discount. But if you guys go to gen3health.com. You guys get a discount if you use the code ninja. That's 5% off for all general listeners. And if you're a veteran police or first responder, you get an additional discount.

[Lily]

That's fantastic. Watch our glow up.

[Josh]

And we're doing a 12 month journey. So every month at the beginning of the month, we'll report in with Genesis Health Solutions and say where we're at, how we're doing, and at the end of 12 months, we're gonna do. We have to. We gotta do it before and after picture.

[Lily]

I was gonna say, why don't we.

[Andrew]

Let's just run these videos next to each other as well. We'll have.

[Josh]

How about this?

[Andrew]

This episode's gonna be playing a year from now and you're just gonna have this clip up here.

[Josh]

How about in 12 months I shave my face again and we'll see how I look?

[Lily]

That's great.

[Andrew]

It's like the most squared off superhero chin ever, dude.

[Josh]

Like this.

[Taylor]

Now you're dead on with the T. It says testosterone influences the neurotransmitters like serotonin, dopamine and gaba, all of which regulate mood and calmness. When the levels drop, you become imbalanced, leading to anxiety, irritability. He's been, he's been a little. I am, yeah, restless.

[Lily]

I. I'm really excited. I really think that this has been the missing piece in your anxiety journey. You have been doing so good at taking care of your body. You've made so many changes to move in a positive direct. We're on a physical journey, a mental journey, a spiritual journey, all of it. And this is like the missing puzzle piece. So I can't wait.

[Andrew]

Because that's the thing that you don't see. Like, you don't see like, oh, maybe there's literally something off with my actual body that I can't control necessarily.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

And for those of the dudes that are listening, they're like, that doesn't affect me. There's actually stats that are coming out right now that men that are in their 20s and 30s have lower testosterone than men in their 50s and 60s because of environmental toxins and like plastics and all that stuff. So, like, just go get looked at. For real.

[Josh]

Well, they did a test. They took blood samples from like, it was like over a thousand men ranging from like 20 years old to, I think 70. And the dudes that were like 16, 70 years old, their T was like maybe like 500, 600, which is pretty good for an old man. But it's Supposed to go down the older you get. And it was like, 90% of dudes in their 20s, they're in the 300 range. So crazy lower than the older men.

[Andrew]

That's nuts.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

I was at 5.

[Josh]

Were you?

[Andrew]

No, just literally 5.

[Josh]

Testosterone negative 50.

[Taylor]

Yeah. They're like.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

They said we can't find any.

[Josh]

Yeah. So I'm sorry.

[Andrew]

That's nuts, though. That's wild.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Lily]

I'm excited. Kelsey and I are going to do it too. Let's do what? If we put our before picture in Patreon? You can only see it if you're a Patreon member. No. Okay.

[Josh]

I mean, we could.

[Taylor]

We.

[Josh]

People have seen a shirtless. You posted a picture of me the other day.

[Andrew]

Oh, the one with the lion?

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Yeah. It's so fun. It's my favorite.

[Josh]

But these guys, Genesis Health Solutions, they approach it from, like, a homeopathic love sense too.

[Taylor]

So.

[Lily]

Yeah, it's basically what I was describing it to my girlfriends today, because I'm trying to get them all on this train, and I'm just like. It's. What they're trying to do is basically bring functional medicine to the primary. Like, it's so hard to go get functional medicine care anywhere. And it's also extremely expensive. These guys are saying we're gonna make it accessible to everybody.

[Josh]

So what's cool is that they have doctors on staff, too.

[Taylor]

Okay.

[Josh]

To where, like, so you fill out a thing, and then a doctor calls you, and they go through your blood work and stuff, and then they diagnose you with whatever. And then they also have a pharmacy that they. They'll send you stuff. So it's all over the Internet, which is sick.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

And once again, not a sponsor.

[Josh]

Not a sponsor.

[Andrew]

We're literally just excited about this. We're trying to, like, we want to do this podcast till the day we die.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

And it might be next year if we don't do this.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

So if you're bad.

[Andrew]

So we're doing this so we can live forever.

[Taylor]

So this is still technically ad free because they're not a sponsor.

[Andrew]

Yeah. And also, you literally get to see me take blood because they send you a box, and it's a whole little gadget that you stick into your shoulder, and I'm gonna see how it goes.

[Lily]

Are you gonna film it on the show?

[Andrew]

We're gonna do it on Patreon. Like, I'm gonna. I haven't even opened the box and read the instructions. We're gonna do it all on Patreon.

[Josh]

Needle free. Device that you stick on your arm.

[Lily]

And it sucks your blood like a.

[Josh]

Apparently we're gonna find out how it works.

[Andrew]

Like a mosquito. I think there is. It does have a tiny, tiny needle prick. Yeah.

[Lily]

That's interesting.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Whenever I would do like my gender test with babies, you have to do that. You stick a needle in your arm and.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Trouble it. Anywho.

[Taylor]

Cool.

[Josh]

We'll talk more about on Patreon.

[Lily]

Another. Another thing about non sponsored brands that we love. I just ordered a box from Fish Wife.

[Andrew]

Oh, yeah.

[Lily]

Any of our listeners are connected to Fish Wife.

[Josh]

I would love to be sponsored by Fish Wife.

[Lily]

Also, just send us some tuna belly for us to try, please.

[Josh]

Yeah, they got a new canned tuna belly, but it's 75 bucks.

[Andrew]

Oh, my.

[Josh]

Three cans.

[Lily]

Goodness.

[Andrew]

Goodness gracious. So it's actually like belly fat. Like belly meat from an actual tuna.

[Josh]

It's like the bacon really, of the tuna.

[Lily]

They just dropped their gift sampler box. I got it from my dad for his birthday. I think my dad is not gonna see this episode, so he doesn't need to hear it, but he's not gonna hear it. But I am over the moon. So excited for this sampler box.

[Josh]

Fun stuff. Speaking of fun stuff, do you want a song?

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

I hope. We'll see how this goes.

[Taylor]

I believe in both of you.

[Andrew]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Josh]

We literally. We didn't even practice it.

[Andrew]

This is. Yeah. First time in.

[Taylor]

Ever.

[Andrew]

I mean, usually we practice it at least once. Right?

[Lily]

I walked in on you practicing.

[Andrew]

No, we've done some improv stuff without Andy.

[Josh]

Oh, Andy. Andy.

[Andrew]

Josh.

[Josh]

And it's also probably gonna get flagged. I'm in the upside down help.

[Taylor]

You ready?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

All right, here we go.

[Josh]

I woke up, rested right at dawn, then put my new outfit on. Out the door I went, no traffic, got to work and walked inside.

[Andrew]

Inside.

[Josh]

My boss shook my hand, said I'm so handsome and hands me a hundred bucks. Go ahead and go to lunch. Eat anything you want. And I ate.

[Andrew]

There's so much freaking tacos. Tacos. I ate. I ate so much freaky tacos. Tacos. And then I just pooped my pants so badly in front of everyone I know. Then I just poop my pants so badly. Now I got to go.

[Josh]

My pants so badly. I just put my pants so badly.

[Andrew]

In d worst way. Dude, we freaking nailed it. We freaking flag.

[Taylor]

Flag.

[Josh]

Flag. Flag. You know, that's the benefit of going.

[Taylor]

First try is it might not get true.

[Andrew]

They'll listen to it. And it's like, oh, this is flagged and they'll watch it and be like, you know what? Just let them have it. Yeah, just let them have it.

[Josh]

They can keep that one. What was that song original Taking Back Sunday.

[Lily]

Oh, I see.

[Josh]

Can't say the name because there's a curse word in it. Oh, make darn sure.

[Andrew]

Make darn sure.

[Josh]

Make darn sure Man.

[Taylor]

It's one of the most influential songs of my teen years.

[Josh]

It was same. Love it. Love Taking Back Sunday. I love.

[Andrew]

That's the only song I've heard.

[Josh]

Taking Back Sunday.

[Taylor]

Spider Man.

[Josh]

Cool. Taking Back Sunday. Cool, Cool.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

I really like these.

[Andrew]

They're really good. They're very, like, soft. I was going to say tender, but I was going like, I was. Think that was the right word for it? Cuz it's usually like gummy burn.

[Josh]

Shut up.

[Andrew]

I can't remember what is.

[Lily]

Quiet.

[Andrew]

You could have just asked.

[Josh]

What are we doing?

[Andrew]

What are you.

[Taylor]

What is that? What is that? Company. Stop doing something. You need help, dude.

[Josh]

This has nothing to do with what's inside my body. That's everything I do with what's inside my heart.

[Taylor]

Well, that.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Taylor]

Doesn't make sense, but.

[Andrew]

All right, that adds up.

[Josh]

Zip it. I'm scared. This question has me nervous.

[Andrew]

Okay.

[Josh]

We live in a really dark world right now. A lot of bad things are happening. A lot of people are going missing. A lot of crime is happening. A lot of items are going missing.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Wars, rumors of wars, earthquakes, famine, scary stuff.

[Andrew]

Stubbed toes.

[Josh]

And this question, apparently somebody knows something because this is. It's directed right at Lily.

[Lily]

Oh, gosh.

[Josh]

Which is. I don't know why they're always directed at Lily somehow. I mean, this one's specific.

[Andrew]

A lot of people say she's the cornerstone of this podcast.

[Josh]

They do. They do say that. Just get on with it. Just rip the band aid off.

[Andrew]

You ready?

[Lily]

Go ahead.

[Josh]

Today's question sent in by a viewer. Lily, where were you October 19, 2025?

[Lily]

What is today?

[Andrew]

I think it's the 27th.

[Josh]

We're filming on the 27th. This is coming up.

[Andrew]

Yeah. Look at your calendar. Because this, like, this is not something you just need to be like.

[Josh]

Where were you, Lil? October 19, 2025.

[Lily]

Was that Tuesday last week? No, October 19th was a Sunday.

[Josh]

Lil, where were you October 19, 2025?

[Andrew]

Let's start with this. I'm trying to find out, what state were you in? What country?

[Lily]

United States. Florida.

[Andrew]

Okay.

[Lily]

I was carving pumpkins with my nephew and my children.

[Andrew]

Oh, that sounds like follow up alibi.

[Josh]

I got a follow question.

[Lily]

That was your birthday.

[Josh]

What's under your chair?

[Andrew]

No, there's something. Is that out? Is that in frame? Do we need a.

[Josh]

Was that red thing? What is that box? Is that a box or is that like a.

[Andrew]

Looks like a cord or something? No, we're not gonna scare. Why. Why would we ever scare you during question?

[Josh]

What is that?

[Andrew]

Yeah, pick it up.

[Josh]

What is that?

[Andrew]

No, there's no.

[Josh]

Grab the box, Lil. What is it?

[Andrew]

What does it say?

[Josh]

Here, face it towards the camera.

[Lily]

2 Lily from Les Garcons Laker Sands.

[Andrew]

What is that? French?

[Josh]

French.

[Andrew]

That means the.

[Lily]

Are we going for it?

[Josh]

Protect. Protect you if you're wrong.

[Andrew]

Protect me if I'm wrong.

[Josh]

Yeah, I will.

[Andrew]

But is it less garcons? Does that mean the boys?

[Josh]

I had to say that means the boys.

[Lily]

Whoever made this doesn't. Isn't one of you guys.

[Josh]

To Lily from the boys.

[Lily]

Josh, did you write this? Because that's not how you spell my name. Did you know that?

[Andrew]

Well, that's for Lily. In French, they do two Ls.

[Josh]

Yeah. Lily, what's in the box?

[Andrew]

It's obviously for you.

[Lily]

Oh, so fancy.

[Andrew]

What is. I'm sorry, what is that?

[Josh]

Are those.

[Andrew]

Is that not. That's not what I think.

[Josh]

Is that Napoleon's wife's necklace that was stolen from the.

[Taylor]

Lou.

[Andrew]

Josephine, Are you honored? What do you mean?

[Josh]

You're on.

[Andrew]

What are you talking about?

[Josh]

Why are you acting so.

[Andrew]

Lily.

[Josh]

So you knew about this?

[Andrew]

You obviously were behind this.

[Josh]

You were behind.

[Andrew]

You hired these men.

[Josh]

You hired the. How do you say it? Lego sans les Go songs, the boys.

[Andrew]

You did that.

[Taylor]

She's.

[Lily]

You're right. It was me.

[Josh]

Well, I guess you guys heard it here first. Lily is a mastermind behind the thievery.

[Taylor]

That took place at the Louvre, where they stole history. History.

[Andrew]

Lil, she's like, history. I want to make it her story.

[Josh]

Shame on you. Welcome to the show. Did I say ninja?

[Lily]

I meant butterfly.

[Andrew]

The butterfly is no doubt one of God's most beautiful mind. You were martial arts?

[Lily]

Josh, did you write this?

[Andrew]

Disgusting. No, that was me. I was like, there's not two Ls. I don't know why I put two Ls. Stop. Relax.

[Josh]

The Louvre.

[Lily]

The Louvre.

[Josh]

The Louvre heist. As when this comes out, it's a.

[Andrew]

Couple of weeks past.

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah. But holy moly, dude. They did catch two people that were involved in it. Arrested them.

[Taylor]

Oh, that. That's. This is a thing that happened. Oh, yeah. I've been under a rock.

[Lily]

Oh, my gosh.

[Andrew]

Here we go.

[Lily]

They got a ladder it was literally like a 1950s.

[Andrew]

She's just.

[Taylor]

Ye.

[Lily]

Go ahead, go ahead.

[Josh]

You set it up better. October 19th. Andrew.

[Taylor]

Dude. Okay.

[Josh]

It was just a normal day in Paris, France.

[Taylor]

What happened?

[Josh]

Don't joke around. This is serious. This is a legit thing. These dudes, they dressed up as construction workers and they had a truck with a. Like a cherry picker ladder on it.

[Taylor]

Yeah, yeah. Like tree service style.

[Josh]

Yep. They pull up to the Louvre, they go up there in their vests and helmets and stuff. Bust in a window, go in there and they literally have like grinders with like the diamond plates on. Cut the glass where all the necklace and the jewelry and stuff were. Take it. Get down. They try to set their truck on fire. And then they just got on the little scooters and took off. Yeah.

[Andrew]

And they got away, dude. They were caught yesterday though. Apparently.

[Josh]

Apparently.

[Andrew]

Apparently they're the guys. Allegedly.

[Josh]

But when this comes out, they still don't know where all the. The jewels are. Jewels? The jewelry?

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

So that stuff wasn't like. Wasn't under. No. No sensors on the glass?

[Josh]

No, it was because it was like the alarms going off and stuff. But like the way that they came in and they did it like within minutes.

[Andrew]

And they were aware of a certain blind spot with the surveillance camera, which is crazy because they. They had to have known.

[Taylor]

I'm trying to figure out though, like, I mean, man, that takes. I feel like that's minutes is too much time to pull it off, but I guess not, dude.

[Andrew]

I mean, it's just one of those things. You don't get to hear about this type of stuff often. And it's a terrible thing. It's breaking.

[Taylor]

I know where you're going. Yeah, yeah.

[Andrew]

But it's also a museum, dude. It's just stuff and it's kind of exciting. I don't know if that's right of me to say that, but I think it's crazy.

[Josh]

I mean, it was like an ocean's movie, dude.

[Andrew]

You got the promotion for the new oceans movie is getting crazy. That's basically what.

[Taylor]

It's the type thing like if the two of you found out that you had two months to live, I could for sure see you both being like, dude, we should try it.

[Andrew]

That'd be us in the Smithsonian, dude. Walking out with a giant 10 foot femur or something.

[Josh]

Did you guys see the. The detective that was.

[Andrew]

Dude, yes.

[Josh]

Let me send the picture.

[Taylor]

I don't know.

[Andrew]

Lily, have you seen this?

[Lily]

When you Google this, it says there's CBD. Lily, I've eaten, like, 30 of them.

[Josh]

Let me see it.

[Andrew]

That better not be true.

[Lily]

Oh, my gosh. I'm about to freak out if that happens.

[Andrew]

I'm panicking.

[Lily]

I literally just ate 30 of them.

[Andrew]

The only adult in my daughter's lives right now.

[Lily]

She's on her way home.

[Andrew]

They're gonna bait. No, they have to go pick her up at the airport.

[Lily]

Oh, gosh.

[Josh]

There's no CBD in it.

[Lily]

The key ingredient in Vigilance Elite Gummy Bears is cbd.

[Josh]

There's no cbd.

[Taylor]

CBD on their website.

[Andrew]

Okay. Golly, could you imagine?

[Lily]

I was starting to, like, psycho myself out. Like, I was freaking out.

[Andrew]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Josh]

I'm glad I didn't, because I actually would have freaked out. Would you want to join the conversation now?

[Lily]

You guys did a really good job recapping what happened.

[Josh]

Look, 19th, look at the picture of the detective.

[Andrew]

Just start again.

[Josh]

That was on the case. This is a real, real detective.

[Lily]

That is not real.

[Andrew]

That's. No, it's 100% real. That's the crazy thing. It makes it. This all seems like a movie.

[Taylor]

That. Dude, man. What do you do? What. What are you doing with the outfit?

[Andrew]

That guy was brought out of his apartment. That's like. Like he hasn't been outside. He's been studying reading, and they're like, sorry, we have a case for you.

[Lily]

He said, I've been waiting for this case my whole life.

[Josh]

Actual shot, not AI Of a French detective working on the case of the French crown jewels that were stolen from the Louvre. Dude, embrace in daylight.

[Taylor]

I'm trying to figure out of all the things to be hung up on, but the fact that he's got a black jacket and blue accents with a brown hat is kind of taking me off.

[Andrew]

He's French, dude. What do you expect?

[Taylor]

I expect more from the French.

[Andrew]

No, don't. You need to expect less. Every single day, you need to expect less.

[Lily]

You need to start researching it, Andrew, because it's just, like, kind of delightful that this.

[Andrew]

It's a crazy story. I mean, no one got hurt, thank goodness. I'm not condoning it, but, golly, of all the crimes to commit.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

If you had to choose just one jewelry heist for museums. Not a bad one.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Once again, I feel bad saying that.

[Lily]

I just love that everybody's saying AI could never make this up. And I heard they weren't actually Josephine's jewels. They were his second wife. Second wife. Which is. I mean, like, if anything needs to be preserved, it's Josephine because she's an Icon.

[Andrew]

Yeah. Second wives don't count.

[Josh]

Correct.

[Andrew]

Shout out to the second.

[Josh]

Not to God.

[Taylor]

That's not true.

[Lily]

We don't feel that way.

[Josh]

That's a joke.

[Andrew]

It's a comedy show.

[Josh]

Come on.

[Andrew]

That's so funny. Not to God. What a crazy story, though. So fun.

[Lily]

I feel relaxed.

[Andrew]

It's a move like this.

[Lily]

I'm worried this is progressing.

[Andrew]

Yeah, yeah. You're just gonna be like. You're gonna be in the couch.

[Josh]

There's no CBD in it.

[Andrew]

You remember the. The. The no. The no drugs ad? She's like, you don't play with me anymore. And it's like her sister that, like, melted into the couch. Oh, yeah, she's just, like, completely deflated into the couch. That's gonna be you at the end of the episode.

[Josh]

Wait a second. It does say 5 grams of THC, though.

[Lily]

Stop it. Don't say that. Oh, my God.

[Andrew]

I'm telling you, that literally would be per gummy worm.

[Lily]

I literally ate 30.

[Andrew]

Yeah, you're good. It's just weird that he sells just regular gummies, though, right?

[Josh]

It's the.

[Lily]

Yeah, with, like, dye in them and stuff. But they're made in America, which is cool. But if you're gonna make your own gummy, why don't you make it with dye? Free dye.

[Taylor]

Hey, be nice to Sean.

[Josh]

Yeah. Leave Shawn alone.

[Lily]

They're delicious, everybody. For real. I ate 30 of them.

[Josh]

Speaking of 30 of them.

[Andrew]

Huh?

[Josh]

We got about 30 inches of rain last night.

[Andrew]

Dude, I thought we were in the middle of a hurricane, bro.

[Josh]

That was insane.

[Andrew]

Out of nowhere. It was not on the forecast whatsoever.

[Josh]

Nothing.

[Andrew]

Because I was supposed to be working outside all day, and I was like, okay, it's only supposed to drizzle for, like, two hours. We're good. 20% chance.

[Josh]

Yeah, it's a 20. 20 to 30% chance. And then it rained for six hours straight.

[Andrew]

I think even more than that because it started at noon and I went to bed at, like, 11 o', clock, and he was still. Cat dogs.

[Josh]

It was rained right on our house. What was it, 14.6 inches?

[Taylor]

Yeah. We have flower, like, vases all over the deck, and every one of them is like, literally, it's full to the brim.

[Josh]

Yeah. We had the road that goes into downtown Mount Dora. Donnelly just completely collapsed into the ground with a car.

[Andrew]

The main road, it's a crazy busy road.

[Josh]

I will say this. There's been a government shutdown.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And I don't know if you've noticed, but during the shutdown, I haven't Seen a lot of chemtrails.

[Andrew]

I haven't been paying attention.

[Josh]

It was yesterday when we were driving to Orlando. Just chemtrails everywhere.

[Andrew]

Really?

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Dead serious.

[Andrew]

Is the government up and running again?

[Lily]

No, not yet.

[Josh]

They're probably like, we got to make it rain.

[Taylor]

See, my. My whole thing is if the government, like, what. What does that mean? If they're shut down, they're not enforcing stuff because they're literally not at work.

[Josh]

Yeah. They're not paying.

[Andrew]

Right.

[Josh]

Like, a large majority of government employees.

[Taylor]

Including air traffic controllers, terrified that we're flying this Thursday.

[Josh]

You want to get there early because they're saying that, like TSA and stuff, a lot of people aren't working because they're not getting paid.

[Taylor]

Thankfully, Orlando has that like, live tracker, so you can see how backed up it is.

[Andrew]

Are you talking. Are you talking about the video? The guy that made no money out of shift and then had to go doordash afterwards.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Just to make some money.

[Josh]

Yeah. His Pay stub said 0.00.

[Andrew]

No, they don't get back pay, do they?

[Josh]

I don't think so.

[Andrew]

I mean, then why continue to work except just truly just service just to.

[Lily]

Keep your job, probably.

[Josh]

Maybe they do get back.

[Taylor]

They would have to get back paid because, like, my ticket's not free. So the, the money's there.

[Josh]

It is so frustrating because it's like, who do you blame in this? Right. It's both parties just doing this at each other where they couldn't agree on whatever the budget, whatever should have done.

[Taylor]

Stay Together for the kids by Blink182 because that's how I feel right now.

[Lily]

Oh, that's so good.

[Andrew]

Should have done a government shutdown song.

[Josh]

But yeah, they just. It's like the Democrats wanted this and that in it and it was like crazy stuff. And the Republicans are like, there's no way we're going to put that in it. So it's all right. Well, we're just going to shut it down.

[Andrew]

It's crazy.

[Josh]

And so there's no. There's no resolution right now because they're both like, not going to do it. Not going to do it.

[Lily]

It is so.

[Josh]

But this is the mess up part. All congressmen are still getting paid.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Josh]

So they're not missing out on page.

[Lily]

They don't really care.

[Andrew]

So this is vacation for them.

[Josh]

It's vacation. And it's just like, because they're not.

[Andrew]

Working, they're just not.

[Josh]

It's hurting the American people. Like the food stamps, whatever it's called, they Shut down snaps. They're stopping those on November 1st unless it opens back up.

[Andrew]

Why?

[Josh]

Because there's no money. They're right. They ran out of money.

[Andrew]

There's money.

[Josh]

They said they run. There's money. Listen, this is just what they're saying, dude.

[Andrew]

I mean.

[Josh]

I mean, we're still paying taxes.

[Lily]

Yeah. We're still getting charged, dude. When are we gonna revolt?

[Taylor]

Right now.

[Andrew]

Everyone watching. Have you. Have you heard? I don't know if it was legit or not, but it was from the movie Succession and they were talking about Mark Zuckerberg. And he tells a story about how it's like in ancient times when they would have slaves. I think it was ancient Rome. And you know, they were like. They were. They were coming up together, like, hey, let's get all slaves to wear a specific outfit. That way, like, we could tell who's who. And then they apparently just chose against that because they realized that if all the slaves were looking around and they saw how many of them they were, they would revolt because they would see how. How few leaders they actually have. And so I was like, that's interesting.

[Josh]

Did you see the guy on Tick Tock where it's like a. It's a. It's a farm. But he like, went up and like, if you can like purchase the produce, like right from the farm, okay. But it has like these Haitian workers on it in America. Yeah. And he walked up there and he's like, and. But there's a dude, like, sitting in a truck, like, watching him, like, it looks sketch.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And he's like, hey, do you like, are you here on your own free will? And they're like, go, go, go, go.

[Andrew]

What is happening?

[Josh]

It's like. And so he's like, trying to document, like, what is going on. Like, it seems like they're like slaves.

[Lily]

We think that this is just like a non reality. But I saw a video one time of a guy that had escaped human trafficking. And I guess I've always had it in my head that, like, if you're captured in human trafficking, they'll usually take you to another country.

[Taylor]

They.

[Lily]

There's a whole underground system of. Of slate enslaved people in our nation. And like, where are they working and where he said he was working in Texas.

[Josh]

Really?

[Lily]

He was taken to Texas? Yeah. And like, you think about freaking Wayfair, dude. You think about. I just saw this thing again.

[Andrew]

That was crazy. Yeah, that whole conspiracy was wild.

[Lily]

The $18,000 cabinets that had obscure names that were affiliated with missing children in the nation. And it's like it literally to me is so apparent that it would happen in plain sight. Like that.

[Andrew]

Yeah. And it's the whole idea of like that, you know, I realize how crazy you sound, Lil, when you say yeah.

[Lily]

You sound so crazy.

[Andrew]

That's the type of thing when those things happen. I'm like, you know what, I don't care. I will believe in it.

[Lily]

But like, what are we going to do?

[Andrew]

Yeah. Yeah. I would much rather believe in that. Like instead of just the fact that. Yeah. Kids go missing and, you know, we can't really do anything about it. It's like, no, there has to be something going on.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

I mean, maybe not for all cases, but there's a lot out there and we're not, we're not doing anything about it.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Josh's Uncle Brian was really involved in the anti human trafficking movement to where they would involve local law enforcement and they would go and do these busts and get the kids out.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Lily]

And he said, you would not believe it is the most affluent neighborhoods. It's the ones that are butt to butt houses right next to each other where you think that somebody would take them out to like a cabin in the woods. It's happening right in front of us.

[Andrew]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Josh]

It's scary.

[Andrew]

I would love to have Uncle Brian on the pod. That'd be a fascinating conversation.

[Lily]

His best friend Eric Nori should come too. He's that guy who's been struck by lightning like seven times and bitten by a million snakes.

[Andrew]

How about not bring him here?

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

That's a remote interview kind of thing, you know?

[Josh]

Yeah. Talk about them all. Like, I feel like we've talked about him a couple times, but like birds land on his shoulders and like this weird stuff, weird energy.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

That's amazing.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

It's crazy because they say, I mean, they say trafficking, I mean like slavery is a bigger problem than it's ever been in history. Like we talk about, it's like a past issue. It's at numbers wise, the biggest it's ever been.

[Taylor]

Did you guys ever do that like technology tracker where you could like look at, put in the technology you use and then it would give you your footprint for like your utilization of slave trade.

[Lily]

Oh, golly.

[Taylor]

It's terror. Like things like your phone, your TVs, all of that technology. When you look at it from the different places around the world, like, you know, they might just be getting one part for the iPhone from a specific Asian country, but when you follow the rabbit trail, this organization actually looked at each of those Companies. And it's like basically the equivalent of like how many slave hours went into producing the things that you use for everyday life. And it's high.

[Andrew]

And I don't know if it's just like, that's part of living in a dark and broken world that you just can't get away from it. But it's like, it gets so overwhelming sometimes. This is like the same reason when people look at how sausage is actually made and you see how mistreated cows and pigs and it's like, you watch that enough, you really probably. You have to make that decision. I don't think I could do meat anymore. It's the same thing. When you find out all this stuff that's going on in the world, how clothing's made, how our electronic stuff is made. It's like, do I just not purchase anything? Do I just.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Make my own bike somehow and like, just live? I mean, you. You just can't though. Like, that's not the world we're living in.

[Lily]

No, I think you're right. I think that everything, all this suffering that we bear witness to in the world is just a reminder that we do live in a broken world and we need to be saved by a savior. I saw something the other day and they were like, oh, yeah, your handmade clothing. It was like what we had all assumed was a reputable savior site to buy clothing from. You go. And it's in the slums of India and these guys, I mean, it looks like slavery. They're working night and day for their. Because it is handmade.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Hand dyed, you know?

[Josh]

Yeah, man. Messed up world.

[Lily]

So tough.

[Josh]

Anyways, it rained a lot.

[Andrew]

It rained a lot. I want to go back. How do we get there? How? We went from rain, we went to chemtrails, we went to government shutdown, and then we went. How do we get from government shutdown to what we were just talking about?

[Josh]

I don't even.

[Andrew]

I don't even know. That's crazy.

[Taylor]

It was. We were talking about being paid and then food stamps.

[Andrew]

Yeah, that's so funny.

[Lily]

The rabbit trail, the Haitian farmers.

[Taylor]

Right. I do want to know if the government shut down, will the FWC do anything if I'm just out hunting?

[Josh]

I don't know.

[Taylor]

Because I saw that, I think it was Trump made a kind of sarcastic comment alluding to something with hunting. I was like, I don't know that if I did something way down here on this end of the totem pole, that his joke would protect me.

[Josh]

I heard that Elon Musk was paying some of the troops or paying the troops.

[Andrew]

Is that true, like, personally?

[Josh]

Yeah, that's just what. So what somebody told me. I'm like, really?

[Lily]

That's pretty cool.

[Andrew]

I don't think a cop can arrest me if the government shut down, though. That's got to be true. Right?

[Lily]

I don't think I have to pay my traffic violations if the government is shut down. Right.

[Josh]

I know they do. The essential government workers are still working and being paid.

[Lily]

Like the essential ones that like, take money from us and.

[Josh]

Yeah. Well, they also said The Trump's using.

[Andrew]

$130 million from anonymous donor to pay military salaries amid shutdown. An anonymous donor for 130 million. That seems suspicious.

[Lily]

Benjamin Netanyahu.

[Josh]

Maybe.

[Andrew]

Speaking of which, it's rumoring that it's musk. Apparently that's what it is.

[Lily]

Cute.

[Josh]

The Amazon web cloud service that went down last week. It's crazy. Really freaky, actually. Well, one, let me start off with this. This is crazy. You know, you did your whole AI thing with the answer. Apple, if you can't answer. Sure, Josh. That helps out at my dad's property. He did that and he went super. Down the rabbit hole or whatever. But it said one of the first things that would happen is before the nation started to crumble or before this whole new world order started to play, is that the Internet would crash down.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

To where you can't access your bank, you can't do all that stuff. And that Amazon web server was just kind of like a little teaser of like, this is what could happen. Because there was like over. I think it's 20,000 businesses use this Amazon web server.

[Andrew]

Okay.

[Josh]

And it went down at like 3 in the morning. When was it? Yeah, it was like three in the morning that it went down. 2,000 businesses. Sorry. But millions of users reported service issues. Both freaky. Is that it just shows Internet's resilience depends on a handful of firms and infrastructure points. When one key piece fails, many downstream servers suffer.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Josh]

So, like, I just like.

[Taylor]

Yeah, dude.

[Josh]

It's how we're so vulnerable.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And I think it was a little cyber attack. But they're not saying anything about it.

[Taylor]

That's what they did. I mean, a lot of people think it was China with the airports.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Yeah. Last year when. Yeah. When all that stuff went down. I mean, it's happened more frequently, it seems like.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

And we're more vulnerable than ever. The technology in other areas like China are getting so much more advanced than us. It wouldn't be hard.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

We're wide open.

[Taylor]

We have so many people who are, like, leading the development of AI. And I know obviously China is super advanced, too, but all I can hope is that if this is the reality, that it's going both ways. Like, I'm sure if we're doing, you know, shady stuff, like attacking cyber stuff in China, we're not reporting on that. What?

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

You know what I mean? So the hope would be this might just be what warfare looks like. It's like, for sure, let's throw a punch and then negotiate something for a temporary peace.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

So this might be in place of, you know, storming the beach, which I'll. I'll take.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

You know, but it is definitely a volatile world to live in.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Volatile. Speaking of volatile, I know what that word means.

[Josh]

Trump's ballroom.

[Andrew]

Dude, I've heard some conspiracies about this. All right, so what would you think? What could possibly be a conspiracy? But behind this ballroom, I got.

[Josh]

I got all the receipts here.

[Andrew]

It's actually a ball pit. Jumping around in a ball pit, like, real fun. I thought you said ballroom.

[Taylor]

Is this what he's.

[Josh]

The.

[Taylor]

The wing stuff?

[Josh]

The west wing, I believe.

[Taylor]

West. East. East.

[Josh]

East wing, yeah, east wing.

[Lily]

I. I don't even know where my brain is going.

[Andrew]

The thing is, because, like, people are saying, like, how can you do this? And it's like. And they brought out pictures, whatever her name is, that the White House secretary or press secretary comes out and shows pictures of people, like, you know, like in the past and stuff, doing things. And it's like, that was like, like renovations and stuff. And like, they're, like, demolishing it.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

And then, like, building.

[Josh]

I mean, there's some presence like that added, like a bowling alley in the White House.

[Lily]

Well, Barack Obama put in a basketball court or something like that, too.

[Josh]

Yeah. And the kicker was that all these other presidents use taxpayer money for it, and Trump is not using taxpayer money.

[Andrew]

Love that.

[Lily]

Paying for it. Personally, I'm pro. Continue.

[Josh]

Not personally. He has some donors.

[Andrew]

Anonymous donors.

[Josh]

Not anonymous. Ooh, you ready for these donors?

[Andrew]

Can we guess? Danny DeVito? Elon Musk?

[Josh]

I'll just read them.

[Lily]

OK. Not Israel.

[Josh]

Google. Oh, Apple.

[Andrew]

Okay.

[Josh]

Amazon.

[Andrew]

Why?

[Josh]

Meta.

[Andrew]

All right.

[Josh]

Microsoft. Lockheed Martin.

[Lily]

Oh, my gosh.

[Andrew]

Good people.

[Josh]

Palantir.

[Andrew]

Love them.

[Josh]

Typical T Mobile.

[Lily]

One of these sponsored by T Mobile. The other.

[Andrew]

Yeah, it's just like, they just have a branding on the outside of the White House. Just like a neon pink sign brought to you by T Mobile.

[Josh]

But here's the. Here's the here's where it gets weird. All right.

[Andrew]

That's already weird.

[Josh]

That's super weird.

[Andrew]

That's. It's already started being weird. That's such a weird. Because there are a lot of feuding people in that.

[Lily]

I see where you're going with this because of this kind of concept about Trump wanting this idea that the. The government's going to be run by billionaires and corporations.

[Josh]

That's part of it. But it's a 90,000 square foot ballroom that he's building.

[Lily]

Yeah. That's huge.

[Andrew]

95,000.

[Josh]

90,000.

[Andrew]

90,000. Okay.

[Josh]

And the estimate at first was it was going to be 200 million, which is a lot.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Now it's going to be upwards of over 300 million for this 90,000 square foot ballroom.

[Lily]

That's nuts.

[Josh]

That is equivalent to paying $3,330 a square foot, which is psycho.

[Lily]

Like, why?

[Josh]

Way outside the standard of what you pay per square foot for a building.

[Andrew]

Sure. So what are they spending so much money on? Why is it so expensive?

[Josh]

Let me just break this down real quick. So like a standard commercial home, maximum you're going to pay $600 a square foot.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

A high end luxury hotel or whatever. Maximum is twelve hundred dollars a square foot. And then secret government or secure government facilities. Max that you pay for is $1800 a square foot.

[Lily]

So it's a bunker slash ballroom.

[Josh]

So they're building it and it's three over $3,000 a square foot. A theory is that they're building an underground database center.

[Taylor]

Yeah, There you go.

[Andrew]

That would make sense for all those tech companies.

[Josh]

Yep. Because this is weird. Okay, so a couple of years ago, this dude named Larry Ellison in Israel built a underground, what I just call it data. Data center that is 160ft below ground, 460,000 square feet. And he paid, or they paid Israel $319 million for this.

[Taylor]

Wow. There you go. That's gotta be it.

[Lily]

Highly comparable.

[Josh]

Said it was 40,000 square feet, 460,000 square feet under Jerusalem.

[Andrew]

Dear Lord.

[Lily]

Really?

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Josh]

This. So this bunker or this ballroom is costing about the same as what this data center cost in Jerusalem, but not nearly as big. Well, that's just the surface. Because they're just building a ballroom.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

But what's going to be underneath?

[Andrew]

Sure.

[Lily]

And why are all these people interested in investing in it?

[Taylor]

They would all invest because they don't want to be excluded.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

It's an investment.

[Taylor]

Yep.

[Andrew]

That's for later on. Yeah, like that. Oh, my gosh, bro.

[Josh]

But then you have a privatized corporations are now involved in building aspects of the White House.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

Which, I mean, that's just a building. This is basically them just becoming brazen about what they've been doing all along.

[Andrew]

Was Bezos in there?

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Okay. Got it. Okay. That's wild.

[Taylor]

I want Zuckerberg.

[Josh]

Weird, right?

[Andrew]

Dude, I hate it, man. These. Ah.

[Taylor]

Dude.

[Andrew]

Surprised Tick Tock wasn't a sponsor in.

[Taylor]

2008 when everyone was telling me to get rid of my MySpace and to get a Facebook. I was right. I should have stuck with MySpace.

[Lily]

You were right.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Who made MySpace?

[Taylor]

Well, either way, they were still Tom the legend. You don't know Tom MySpace. Tom.

[Lily]

I didn't have a MySpace.

[Taylor]

No.

[Andrew]

That's a bummer.

[Lily]

Do you know how young I am?

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

And how old I am.

[Josh]

Do you know what Tom did after he sold MySpace?

[Taylor]

I love this so much.

[Lily]

What do you do?

[Josh]

Just decided to travel the world and become a photographer.

[Lily]

Sick. What's he doing now? Let's get him on the pod.

[Taylor]

That literally that.

[Lily]

Still traveling.

[Taylor]

He just travels and posts.

[Andrew]

It was so cool because literally, like, as soon as you got on MySpace, you had immediately one friend. And it was tomorrow, and it was this picture of him looking over his shoulder in a white shirt, smiling. And everyone's friend was Tom. And so you had immediately a first friend as soon as you got onto this website. Which is so smart.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Like, just to be like, hey, I'm the owner of the company. Welcome.

[Lily]

That is way cute.

[Andrew]

But you could customize your homepage.

[Lily]

I remember looking at it. My cousin had one and I thought.

[Taylor]

It was really cool, the amount of, like, people who learned HTML, like, program, because you could actually put that in your own, like, site script. Yeah, yeah.

[Josh]

There's all these websites where you could get that and, like, have your own. Yeah, yeah.

[Taylor]

My buddy is now a program. Like, he literally writes code. Yeah, but he writes code. Literally. He had. For a while, he had the idea for how to do his page and he hand wrote it on, like, a ton of sheets of toilet paper. Like, literally had the code written out. But what they did for music was insane. Like the fact that you went to someone's page and it could be just like a local band, but it would play like it was how bands got out there. Yeah. Early days. I freaking loved it.

[Josh]

Yeah. MySpace.

[Andrew]

Thomas Mark. Because he's not in the category with all these people here.

[Josh]

I know.

[Andrew]

Screwing. I don't know. Screwing up something up. I don't know yet. It is very fishy.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

It's got to be a bunker, it's.

[Josh]

Got to be a huge something underground because it. There. It. The tunnels do connect to all the important government buildings in D.C. yeah. So where they're digging is the tunnel system.

[Andrew]

Too smart to do something like just a ballroom? We're not. We can't be that naive.

[Lily]

Although I will say the ballroom is a good idea, because apparently the capacity for the White House was only like, 50 people or something like that, Right?

[Josh]

Like, the biggest room could hold, like, 50 people, but this was really 999 people.

[Lily]

You always think you're like, they're having all these events at the White House. Apparently they weren't.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Unless they were having it on the. The lawn or something, right?

[Josh]

Yeah, I guess.

[Andrew]

That's interesting.

[Josh]

That's just what I saw.

[Andrew]

Well, we gotta. We gotta hook up in the White House. Why don't we go get a tour?

[Lily]

Yeah, we gotta ask this guy about it.

[Josh]

The underground bunker.

[Lily]

What's going on with this bunker? You would know. You would see them digging, right?

[Taylor]

Well, not if they have that tunnel system. They'd be able to go from.

[Josh]

Go. Yeah.

[Lily]

That seems so dangerous.

[Andrew]

Let me text our guy right now. I'm just gonna ask him. Is it a bunker?

[Lily]

Is it a bunker? Blink twice.

[Josh]

But that data center in Jerusalem, I forgot to say the name of it, which is a little eerie. It's called Oracle Data Center.

[Lily]

Why are we doing all these witchy names?

[Taylor]

Wait, that's. That's in Israel.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

That's interesting that they would use a pagan terminology.

[Josh]

Oracle.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Why am I not surprised?

[Josh]

I had a theory this weekend, but I'm afraid to say it.

[Andrew]

Come on, now.

[Taylor]

You got it.

[Lily]

Whisper it.

[Andrew]

Whisper it to me, and I'll say it with the.

[Josh]

With the people of Israel.

[Taylor]

Oh, yeah.

[Lily]

That was really interesting.

[Taylor]

Patreon.com.

[Lily]

Yeah. Yeah, maybe save that one.

[Josh]

Yeah, I'll talk about on Patreon.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Dang it.

[Josh]

It's interesting, okay. Because we're at the property for my birthday. Just a couple dudes hanging out, had a blast.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Andy wasn't there. Neither is Andrew.

[Andrew]

I.

[Lily]

No real friends.

[Andrew]

Literally could. Literally couldn't.

[Josh]

Anyways, we were talking about all this stuff, and I mentioned it. I'm like, whoa. I'm like, that actually sounds legit. And everyone's like, whoa, I never thought about it that way. I'm like, I haven't either. Until right now.

[Andrew]

Am I a genius? Only on my birth.

[Josh]

So we'll talk about Patreon.

[Lily]

Josh has a birthday Persona. I haven't seen it. Come out in so long, though.

[Andrew]

What's his name?

[Lily]

You change. I know we need to come up with a name. You help. You've seen it.

[Andrew]

I mean. Yeah, that's true. I mean, it's kind of like a. I don't know.

[Taylor]

I don't know that I know this.

[Andrew]

Frederick almost or Goldberg. Freddie. But it's like his nickname is Freddie, but his real name's Frederick. Because there's something like. It's like a primal type of European. Oh, yeah. I think your roots come out. I think your heritage, like. I think a little bit of, like, Irish, Scottish comes out.

[Taylor]

Cool.

[Josh]

Yeah, that's fine.

[Andrew]

Yeah. Because you always lift up your kilt, and I never. You're never wearing a kilt.

[Lily]

But, you know, speaking of kilts.

[Josh]

Real quick. Oh, yeah.

[Taylor]

Sarah Hastings. Happy birthday.

[Lily]

Happy birthday.

[Josh]

Happy birthday.

[Lily]

Happy birthday.

[Taylor]

You got a good husband.

[Josh]

Speaking of husbands, did you guys see that? For the first time in human history that we've been able to observe, there are mosquitoes in Iceland.

[Lily]

Oh, no.

[Taylor]

That is the last thing I needed to hear.

[Andrew]

Oh, I was thinking ice. It's not ice either.

[Josh]

Iceland. Yeah, it is.

[Andrew]

It's kind of green. No, it's, like, volcanic.

[Josh]

No, it's very icy and cold and dark. Like, no trees.

[Andrew]

Okay. Oh, yeah. Iceland. I was thinking of something else. I'm so sorry.

[Josh]

I was thinking, like, the Northman.

[Lily]

What were you thinking about?

[Andrew]

I don't know. I was. I think it was like. I think I was thinking that Norway type of thing.

[Josh]

Greenland and Iceland. I was like, oh, well, Greenland's actually super icy, but Iceland's actually super green.

[Andrew]

Yeah. But then I noticed, remember, just researching about trying to go to Iceland. I'm like, yeah, so of course it's super icy.

[Josh]

Mosquitoes are there.

[Andrew]

That's crazy.

[Josh]

And they're like. Scientists are like, we have no idea how they got here.

[Andrew]

How they're. How they got there. Also how they're surviving.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Bill Gates is up to something, dude.

[Lily]

Don't you think they're gonna take us out?

[Josh]

We're experiencing that polar shift, dude. That or their switch.

[Andrew]

Or they're genetically modifying mosquitoes so they can live in any climate. Maybe they're the new cockroach.

[Josh]

Maybe can't kill them. Freaky, though.

[Andrew]

Super freaky.

[Josh]

Which I will say everything's been weird this year. We say every year. But. But if you look at. Because, you know, like, the. The pole shift stuff.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

It affects weather.

[Andrew]

Ecosystems.

[Josh]

Ecosystems. And if you look at this year's hurricanes, dude, they are taking that same track. It's Almost like something's just, like, shifting to where it's like, instead, because, like, they're not hitting the US they're all going that same path in the Atlantic.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And there's that one that's right now. But when this comes out, we don't know how to be devastating.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

For Jamaica, like, today, Jamaica is getting hit by that Cat 5 when we're filming.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Straight on.

[Josh]

Straight. It's right over, right now. Bigger than the island. It's. They said the.

[Andrew]

The eyes bigger than the island.

[Josh]

No, like the.

[Taylor]

The.

[Josh]

The widespread wind from a Cat 5 is miles bigger than the island itself. So it's just Cat five winds just sitting over Jamaica right now.

[Andrew]

Dear Lord. Dude.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

That's so scary.

[Josh]

Popped out of nowhere.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Like the rainstorm last night.

[Andrew]

Dude. It's wild, man.

[Josh]

What's going on?

[Andrew]

I mean, let's not pretend that bugs being modified, that weather manipulation, all this stuff isn't happening. It isn't real. It's been in the books, in courtrooms, documents, CIA, FBI, all this stuff. It's happening.

[Josh]

Oh, yeah.

[Andrew]

And so we just don't know what we're going to be reading about in 30 years. Like, oh, yeah. In 2025, they were doing this. They got caught in that, and they had, you know, the documents got declassified later on. It's like we're living in things that we don't even know. We're surrounded by it.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

And it's like, there, if it is being manipulated. You're playing with people's lives, and it's crazy. You're affecting these people's lives beyond, like, oh, that's so wild.

[Lily]

I had a real moment of panic last night when the. When the rain was that intense. I was thinking about what happened in Asheville.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Lily]

And then I remembered, I live in Florida. I don't live in the mountains.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Skip on looking out the window, I'm like, you scared or something? She's like, yeah. I'm like, there's like, we are completely fine.

[Lily]

I, Like, I was worried we're gonna wash away or like, a mudslide was gonna happen.

[Andrew]

Yeah. It would take so much for that lake to, like, flood where it would hit your house.

[Taylor]

Oh, yeah.

[Andrew]

It would take. So.

[Josh]

I mean, it'd be like. Be like 100ft of rain. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Andrew]

Big time. The girls were worried last night, too, because I was just like, yeah, there's flooding happening. I was like, I had to tell them, like, but it's not in our. It's not in our area. And it's like, you're. We're good. And it's like.

[Taylor]

But what.

[Andrew]

The Hoopers and the Warrens, they live over there too. And Andrew and P. And I was like, they. They are. We're. We're fine. We're good.

[Josh]

Just show them the video.

[Andrew]

Yeah. It's super scary stuff.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

That's the tough thing about weather. It's like that you. You can't. There's no protection from that.

[Lily]

I know.

[Andrew]

Like that you're just out there.

[Taylor]

Mm.

[Josh]

Speaking of super scary stuff.

[Andrew]

Yeah. Actually, I had something to tell you.

[Josh]

I haven't updated on an alien probe.

[Lily]

Are we gonna take an ad?

[Josh]

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[Josh]

Hey, friends, it's Karamo. Talk show host, life coach and your next best friend. You just don't know it yet. I'm hosting a new podcast called started on WhatsApp brotherhoods. We're going around the world to explore male friendships and all the wins, challenges and bonds that are made in WhatsApp group chats.

[Andrew]

And that's exactly where you can listen.

[Josh]

To it, right in the app. It's streaming on the official WhatsApp channel. Just open the app and go to the updates tab to start listening. While you're at it, message your best friend and make sure they listen too. I'll see you there.

[Andrew]

Sunday.

[Lily]

Cool.

[Andrew]

Swag, dad.

[Josh]

And come, baby, it's for you. It's for you.

[Taylor]

Sunday.

[Josh]

Coolswag.com Baby, it's for you. It's for you.

[Andrew]

Pond Cash, shirts, stickers and hats, they're all for you.

[Josh]

As a matter of fact, it's all for you. It's all for you.

[Andrew]

I didn't know where you were going. I thought it was all for you. I thought was the.

[Josh]

Oh, send me fast.

[Andrew]

We have freedom.

[Taylor]

You Got a. Do you have a vibe on our Airbnb host?

[Josh]

Oh, super nice lady.

[Lily]

Dude, Apparently Franklin is like the Beverly Hills of Tennessee.

[Taylor]

I know.

[Andrew]

Yeah. It's crazy.

[Taylor]

You want to send them a message and see what it would take for me to harvest an animal off of their property?

[Josh]

Not doing that.

[Lily]

Yeah, you could take that one, Andrew.

[Josh]

That's all you. How do I get a hold of her?

[Andrew]

Smoke signal. Yeah. Carry your pigeon.

[Taylor]

I am. I am going to bring just my recurve because the guys who taught me how to shoot are going to be there. And so they were like, I guess they're bringing their stuff too.

[Josh]

Oh, cool.

[Andrew]

But bring your bowling ball too.

[Taylor]

I got to bring something every time we go. But if we get.

[Lily]

Because it's funny.

[Taylor]

I brought a bowling ball because they said we were bowling and I have a ball.

[Lily]

But we went, but you can't use their balls.

[Andrew]

But it was in Nashville.

[Taylor]

It wasn't like, like waited.

[Andrew]

People don't really know. It was in Nashville when we were going. And so we were taking a trip all the way for a conference. And he was like, the one thing he packed is this bowling.

[Taylor]

We had a trailer, drop it in.

[Andrew]

And we didn't even end up bowling.

[Taylor]

And it was like a hipster diner called a bowling alley.

[Andrew]

The Pine Grove.

[Lily]

Oh, yeah, I went there. Pine Grove social or whatever.

[Taylor]

That's great. Has nothing to do with bowling.

[Josh]

Oh, you want a bowl? It's like six months out, they get a bucket.

[Andrew]

Yeah. It is very pretentious. It's a very cool vibe. The place is awesome looking, but the people over there that we encountered, they're just typical hipsters.

[Taylor]

Yeah. If I go to a bowling alley and it doesn't reek of like old carpet and cigarette smoke, it's not my vibe.

[Lily]

Bowling alleys are not my vibe, period. But I do want to take the.

[Josh]

Girls because I love bowling alleys, dude.

[Andrew]

I was basically raised in one. My mom was a waitress at a place called the Pin and Q, so we just pronounced it Penny Q. And no joke, it was this huge place that had a diner in it. Like a breakfast diner. So good.

[Lily]

Wow.

[Andrew]

And then they had an arcade, and then they had a pool, billiard room, and then the whole back rooms were. Bolt was a bowling alley. And so when she was working, we would just play in the arcade and walk around. It was just the coolest thing in the world. And there's like a 15 foot pin outside and it's just that classic, classic, cool little bowling alley. And Whitefish, Montana. Go check it out.

[Lily]

Do we even have a bowling alley in this area anymore?

[Andrew]

Oh, yeah.

[Josh]

Via. Via Port.

[Andrew]

Via. And then there's one in. Isn't that one in downtown? Near downtown Mondor. Still open?

[Taylor]

I don't know if that one's still open.

[Andrew]

No, right behind Walmart.

[Josh]

No, that one gets shut down.

[Andrew]

Dang.

[Josh]

Yeah, bummer.

[Andrew]

Yeah, Via is pretty fun.

[Taylor]

There's a dude on TikTok who's like, I bought a bowling alley. And he's, like, trying to bring it back.

[Andrew]

Oh, yeah, I saw that. He was, like, painted, like, mural.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Paying guys to do murals on the side and stuff.

[Taylor]

I hope he. I hope he succeeds.

[Andrew]

Go support your local bowling alley.

[Josh]

Yeah, do it.

[Lily]

Yeah, they're the best.

[Andrew]

It was such fun memories as a kid.

[Lily]

That's true.

[Josh]

Speaking of fun memories, Question corner, question.

[Andrew]

Corner, question corner with Lily, where the questions are fresh on her mind.

[Lily]

You took me off guard. I'm ready.

[Andrew]

Off guard.

[Lily]

Would you rather. This is a gross one.

[Andrew]

Doing a lot of would you Rathers lately.

[Lily]

I like that you guys respond better to. Would you rather.

[Andrew]

I do love them. I could do a whole pod. I'm telling Josh that we could do a whole podcast on would you Rathers?

[Lily]

Okay.

[Andrew]

We just do one and we just debate the heck out of it.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Find good ones.

[Lily]

But then you guys won't be true to your opinions because I bet you agree on more than you disagree on.

[Josh]

You'd be surprised.

[Andrew]

That's why I literally. I wanted to start a podcast. Would you rather podcast with Alan Thomas? Because I'm like, we never agree on our would you Rathers?

[Lily]

Really?

[Andrew]

And it's the best. Whenever we sit down, we just talk about them. We talk for hours about him. It's the best. Oh, he's the best.

[Lily]

We should start phoning Alan.

[Andrew]

That would be good.

[Lily]

Okay. Would you rather a straw. This is gross.

[Taylor]

All right.

[Lily]

Be connected to your nose that directly dumps into your mouth. So you eat all your boogers or.

[Andrew]

Straw from nose to mouth? Yes, constantly.

[Lily]

Constantly. Any booger that exits your nose goes.

[Andrew]

Into your mouth, but you don't have any boogers in your nose, then. Like, there's no snot, no boogers or anything.

[Lily]

Correct. So. So technically, your nose is clear.

[Andrew]

Where does the straw end? On my tongue or the back of my throat?

[Lily]

Tongue. You have to taste it.

[Andrew]

Gross. Okay, second option.

[Lily]

Or every time you have to go pee, you can only pee in your pants, Not a toilet or any other pee receptacle. You always have to pee in your pants.

[Josh]

I'll be toast.

[Andrew]

You Wear a diaper then, right? No, you can't wear diaper.

[Lily]

You can't wear a diaper. Has to be. Obviously you peed your pants. This be embarrassing.

[Josh]

You'd have to do a straw.

[Andrew]

I feel like it.

[Josh]

Would that be to pee in your pants all the time?

[Lily]

Yeah. I mean, you don't constantly have to have changes of clothes and you can have a smaller straw, like, pee all the time.

[Andrew]

Is it. Does it have to be going to be like a small, discreet straw that goes between my mustache, or does it have to be like a silly straw that goes around my head or.

[Lily]

To me, it can be an invisible straw. The whole point is that you have to eat every booger that you have in your body.

[Andrew]

I mean, after a while, it's an acquired taste, you know, and you get used to it.

[Josh]

Little salt bomb.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

It actually would probably pair well with a lot of foods. Yeah. You go to some white woman's house and she doesn't have a lot of seasoning on her food. No problem. Susan.

[Lily]

Booger.

[Andrew]

I got a booger straw. Squeeze in. Yeah, that's a good one.

[Lily]

Oh, yeah.

[Andrew]

I think. I think the straw is the obvious one. I think after the first couple peas, it would be funny. But after. But after that, I mean, the first couple would be hilarious.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

I've always wanted it. Like, I'm saving that day for when I, like, pee on command. Like, pee my pants on purpose when I'm around you, or like we're at, like a hangout or something. And it's truly the funniest thing to do. But after a while, it would just become so annoying.

[Lily]

What if you pull that card and you're misreading the vibe?

[Andrew]

That's what I'm saying.

[Lily]

And everybody's like, it's.

[Andrew]

It's such a fine line of where it's like, why would you do that? And then you, like, you try to pass it off like, I did it on purpose. And you're like, okay, yeah, but did you, though? Are you good? What's going on? Is everything okay at home? Andy? Oh, man.

[Josh]

Guys, it was a joke.

[Lily]

To be such a. There's like a mental barrier I think we all have. You would literally have to peel away this mental barrier just to be able to pee in your pants.

[Josh]

Oh, I could easily do it. Yeah, for sure. Easily do it.

[Andrew]

Did you see those would you Rathers I sent on Instagram? No, no, the first one was, would you rather every time you sneeze, you have to yell out at slur.

[Lily]

Oh, gosh.

[Andrew]

Or Every time. Oh, gosh. What was it? It was every time. Let me see. I'm sorry. Every time you sneeze, you let out a slur, you have to yell it. Or every time you burp, you have to punch the closest person next to you.

[Lily]

Oh, no.

[Josh]

I would do burp.

[Andrew]

Burp. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Lily]

Slur. Because I would just hold in my sneezes.

[Andrew]

Sure. Yeah.

[Taylor]

Just picturing the slur that you may choose.

[Andrew]

You could do the pee thing where just, like, you literally just don't drink water until you go home. Get home.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Just be dehydrated.

[Josh]

It doesn't work for me somehow.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Like, I will, like, specifically not drink anything when I'm going to travel and still got to pee.

[Lily]

I'm thinking that Ada's starting to inherit Josh's bladder size because she had to pee, like, 10 times the other day when we went out and she even recognized it. She was like, why do I have to pee so much?

[Andrew]

It's a hereditary thing.

[Josh]

Yeah. Andrew. His. Would that be. And just got a real.

[Andrew]

Got a peace pants.

[Josh]

Andrew.

[Lily]

Andrew.

[Josh]

Andrew.

[Andrew]

Oh, no.

[Josh]

That'S p. Our table.

[Lily]

It's broken.

[Taylor]

All right, I will confess. Kind of phone this one in a little bit, but I got two. Just say which one you guys want to watch first.

[Josh]

The yellow.

[Andrew]

Yellow.

[Taylor]

All right, I'm gonna have to bleep it, but go ahead and play it.

[Lily]

Oh, gosh.

[Josh]

Three, two, one.

[Taylor]

I didn't realize there's music.

[Lily]

This is not urine, right?

[Taylor]

No. Husband made his wife an ice cream. This is grounds for divorce.

[Josh]

That music will get flagged.

[Taylor]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Andrew]

What is it? What is she chewing?

[Josh]

What is that?

[Andrew]

Is that raw?

[Josh]

Oh.

[Andrew]

My goodness.

[Lily]

I was gonna say it looks misshapen.

[Josh]

Yikes.

[Andrew]

It kind of looked kind of staged, though. I don't know.

[Taylor]

That's. Yeah, that. That was my hesitancy.

[Lily]

If Josh handed me a suspect ice cream cone, you think I would just start licking it? I'd be like, what are you doing?

[Taylor]

Or if you bit something, pull the entire thing out.

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah.

[Lily]

It was staged.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Josh]

All right, ready? Second one. Yep. Three, two, one.

[Andrew]

Oh, no.

[Josh]

Oh. Oh, man.

[Taylor]

Oh.

[Andrew]

Oh, my goodness. For those of you not watching, just listening, a guy just slurped a whole rotten black banana cut off the top and just.

[Taylor]

Oh.

[Andrew]

Oh, man. Why is that so vulgar?

[Taylor]

Oh, gosh.

[Andrew]

That is brutal.

[Taylor]

Pretty bad.

[Andrew]

Oh, my eyes are watering.

[Josh]

How did it get to that point? I've never seen a banana that liquidy.

[Andrew]

Oh, I have.

[Taylor]

How much for you to do it?

[Andrew]

Oh, I'm not gonna Say that because then you're gonna show up next week with a freaking banana.

[Taylor]

Next week?

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Oh, you're like, oh, no.

[Andrew]

Oh, my gosh. I literally thought you had one. I was like, no way.

[Taylor]

So funny.

[Andrew]

Golly, dude.

[Josh]

Speaking about slurping down some rotten bananas.

[Andrew]

Yeah. What about it?

[Josh]

G is here. In the past two weeks, three people have died at Disney.

[Andrew]

Disney's got seen this. Dude.

[Lily]

What happened, though?

[Josh]

One of them was by jumping in the.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

What's that?

[Andrew]

Hotel Self inflicted.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Apparently that's a common place for people.

[Lily]

To do that very high up.

[Josh]

And Taylor said my brother, his wife's uncle. So I don't know what that would make for Taylor.

[Lily]

A uncle in law.

[Josh]

Uncle in law. Yeah, he was a fireman at the Disney. Like, he was a Disney fireman. Like that.

[Lily]

Reedy Creek.

[Josh]

Yeah. And he said it was just the worst where. Because like Disney's. You know, we've talked about before where, like, no one dies. No one's ever died at Disney.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Because I always bring them off site.

[Andrew]

Sure.

[Josh]

And he said it was literally like at the Contemporary and stuff. Like, people would jump and they have like a covering that they keep in the hotel for that scenario where they instantly cover it so people up top can't see anything.

[Andrew]

Just like a Mickey, like inflatable or something.

[Lily]

Oh, gosh. How morbid and awful.

[Andrew]

But there would have to be something.

[Josh]

There's one where like this lady or dude, I mean, basically they're like their head was gone.

[Andrew]

Gone.

[Josh]

And they still had to bring them off or try to resuscitate them when they're clearly just to get a slight pulse back to where they get off. And then they're like, oh, yeah, they're dead.

[Lily]

That is insane. That is insane, isn't it? Like, that's grounds for suing.

[Josh]

I know, but now apparently it's come out. Past two weeks, three people have died.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Josh]

At Disney.

[Andrew]

At Disney World or Disneyland or both.

[Josh]

Disney World.

[Andrew]

Gosh, man. Yeah, the contemporary going on.

[Taylor]

It's. It's your orange cable touching that power strip.

[Andrew]

Yeah, I've been here in a little bit. There we go. We got it. We got it, folks.

[Taylor]

Yep.

[Josh]

Nice.

[Lily]

What were the other two?

[Taylor]

I forget.

[Lily]

One of them I couldn't find anything on.

[Taylor]

Yeah, one of them. Nothing's been released. At least last I looked.

[Andrew]

I imagine they cover that stuff up.

[Lily]

Oh, yeah, dude. Yeah. There was one when I was working at Epcot. It didn't happen. I was there, but one of my managers told me about it. This guy was like trying to see the fireworks closer and he was climbing up on a rail or something. Impaled by the fence.

[Josh]

Dang.

[Lily]

And apparently he didn't die there. Technically he totally did.

[Andrew]

Disney, I mean, they, they've got everything covered lawyer wise. I mean, just to make sure that none of that stuff comes out. But that's.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

You can't ignore those headlines though. Three people.

[Lily]

What is wild? What I understand is like, why does it matter? People just die of natural things all the time in any random place.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Why did they care so much?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

I don't know.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Headlines, headers, voters, basketball.

[Andrew]

Yes. Dude, have you heard about this?

[Josh]

This is crazy. Speaking of everything, all these news headlines are like from a movie.

[Andrew]

Yeah, man.

[Josh]

The FBI just did a bus on a ring of NBA players. NBA coaches in the Italian mafia.

[Lily]

Stop it right now. What do you mean?

[Josh]

For fixing games.

[Andrew]

Sports, gambling.

[Lily]

My gosh.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Absolutely wild. Chauncey Billups, legends of.

[Taylor]

This wasn't. I don't want to throw. Actually, I'm not going to guess because I don't want to put that on someone's name who wasn't involved in it.

[Andrew]

Well, this is all. It's all proven.

[Taylor]

No, no, no.

[Andrew]

They're all innocent until proven guilty.

[Taylor]

I was about to call guest names from memory, but I don't know that I know.

[Andrew]

Oh, I mean, the thing is, who knows, dude? Who's actually involved in this? Because I think it's. What's his name? I think it's Darren Jones, Terry Rosaire, Rosier, and then Chauncey Billups, which I used to watch Chauncey Billups play for the Nuggets and stuff like that. It was like, these are huge people. So we have coaches and players, former still playing whatever, who got busted. And you're people are going back and looking through all of these games that were super, super weird. I mean, you have guys who. I think Terry Rosier was one of the guys who went out and told people that he would fake an injury so that he. His, you know, his stats would be lower so it would cover the spread and everything like that. And everyone had all the foot thing. Yeah. Just a little, you know, and then faked it, went off and everything like that. But you're even going back to game one of the finals with the, the Cavaliers and I think it was Golden State where, Golly, what is his name? It's a. It was one of the most dangerous moves they get. The guy gets a rebound and it's like seconds left and he runs instead of taking a Shot or going toward and passing it to LeBron. He runs out and holds the ball and lets the time run out. And then LeBron's looking at him like, what are you doing? But guess who the. The assistant coach of that team was at the Cavaliers that time. Darren Jones. The guy who. One of the three guys in the. That's in the fix right now.

[Taylor]

Shoot, dude.

[Andrew]

So, dude, this is so much deeper than we know. So much more people are involved. I guarantee it. How could you not? It's wild, dude. I mean, it's crazy.

[Josh]

With the Italian mafia.

[Andrew]

Italian mafia, the dudes making, I mean, millions upon millions of dollars a year, and he's doing it for $50,000 of winnings. Like, I don't know if it's.

[Josh]

I don't know if it's probably because they're in debt somehow.

[Andrew]

In debt, or you're just. You're addicted to gambling or it's just greed or.

[Josh]

Sounds like an in debt thing. If it's with the Italian Mafia, yeah.

[Lily]

It sounds like. Yeah.

[Josh]

Fix the game.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

All right.

[Andrew]

Yeah. Do this and you'll live. And you'll get a little money from it.

[Josh]

I bet your foot's going to hurt tonight.

[Andrew]

Yeah. What size of shoes you got? I got a good concrete pair. You'll be sleeping with the fishes.

[Taylor]

Oh, but that's. That's my whole thought, too, is like, say you got involved with them or just became acquainted with them, but then if they really wanted to coerce something out of you, you know, like imagine. Imagine you're playing sports. You've got your families, and then there's like someone. Someone who, you know, has that kind of power, says something cryptic like that to you, and you're like. The whole time you're playing, you're like, were they just like, did I just get threatened? And you know what I mean? Like, yeah, for sure. It's weird. It's enough to make you. And then you'd be off your game.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

So people are like, he threw the game. I saw him talking with his dude. But then you're like, actually, I just. I'm not sure if my family just got threatened.

[Josh]

Austin. Austin told me one of the coaches that got caught, there was some game. Like, someone pulled it up and it was like a big game. Again, I don't really watch basketball. But it was their top two scorers, shooters, whatever you call them.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And there was like a minute left, and they were losing. Not by a lot, but the coach pulled both of them off, sat him.

[Andrew]

There's a time where he also didn't call a timeout. When they had one more timeout to call, and it was like, literally right before the end of the game, they had the ball and it's like, what are you doing?

[Josh]

It's crazy.

[Andrew]

And it just. Yeah, it's just all.

[Josh]

They just got caught. You wonder how many, like, how many, like, NFL soccer, you know, like, everywhere.

[Lily]

Oh, I know, dude. Yeah.

[Andrew]

That's what I'm saying. Gambling is going to be a huge issue 20 years from now because it's on. Available on your phones now. Kids are doing it. It's going. It's one of the most addictive things out there. It's going to be one of the biggest problems ever.

[Josh]

Yeah. I see all these kids that were like, gen zers playing blackjack on their phone while shopping.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Stuff like, I'm just going to do a quick hit. Yep. Oh, that was 400 bucks.

[Andrew]

Yeah. They're going to be betting on ninjas of butterflies soon.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Like, how many times do you think Josh is going to say, speaking of speaking of.

[Taylor]

This episode is brought to you by DraftKings.

[Josh]

Thanks.

[Lily]

Nice.

[Andrew]

Make it less than 10, huh?

[Josh]

All right.

[Andrew]

All right. It's real deal, huh?

[Josh]

Real money.

[Andrew]

I went through. I went through McDonald's this morning to pick up some breakfast. For breakfast for the girls. I got cash back. I just had a dollar and change back. And she hands me a dollar. I. I don't have it on me, but it's in my. It's in my wallet. It's a. It's two thirds of a dollar. Completely tore.

[Lily]

Ripped.

[Andrew]

It's ripped completely. Two thirds of a dollar. And it's like, you can use it if you have the other piece. Yeah, it's a completely impossible dollar. And you had it in the register and she gave it to me. No, because I drove away and, like, I go into the second window, but I'm like, how do you believe me if I say, hey, she gave me this dollar? I was like, it's a dollar, I guess, but it's like, whatever. I should just put in the little charity bin thing. I'm like, it's their problem now.

[Lily]

The needy people.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

For real.

[Andrew]

They need it that bad, they'll fix it, dude. I. Funny story. I was replacing some of the doorknobs in our house this weekend, and I was doing the one in our bedroom, and I put in the hardware for, like, the insert. So you have the two door. I put it in and I put the other latch on the actual door for, you know, glues and screws into the trim. And I was testing to make sure it clears.

[Taylor]

Right.

[Josh]

Locked in, dude.

[Andrew]

I locked myself in.

[Josh]

Did you push it and it fall off or something, or.

[Andrew]

I just. I literally. I was, like, messing with it with the screwdriver, and I was like. Like, for some reason, it got, like, 10 degrees hotter in there because I was just, like, so sweating, and I was like, kelsey's out of town. Of course this happens. And so I'm literally. I'm just, like, thinking through it, and then I'm like, demi. And then she's like, what? And I was like, I need your help, babe. I said, go get a butter knife. And I was trying to get her just to kind of like. Like, literally just break into this thing.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

And then I was just messing with it a bunch. Luckily, I got it.

[Taylor]

So funny.

[Andrew]

Golly, dude. I was like. I was looking on my window. Window doesn't really come up. I would have had to move my whole bed. I was like, this is the worst timing in the world.

[Josh]

That is so funny.

[Andrew]

Not so.

[Josh]

I was watching a video the other day. Videos now spark, like, panic attacks within me.

[Lily]

Which ones?

[Josh]

I saw one. It was, you know, those, like, at a. Like, a theme park or something. The swing. Where you sit in, like, a swing and it spins and it goes high or like a carnival or whatever.

[Taylor]

Okay.

[Andrew]

Yeah. This one, like, the ones with that are, like, chains, like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I hate those.

[Josh]

This one went up. I think it was 170ft or something.

[Andrew]

Done this one, dude.

[Josh]

170Ft in ride stop. And so they're just sitting on a little wood plank with the chains. 170ft in the air.

[Lily]

They're not strapped in. They're just.

[Josh]

I mean, they got the little, like, buckle, but not like a. And I'm watching. I'm like, I would. I would freak out, dude.

[Andrew]

Yeah. Somehow sitting up there is worse than actually spinning around.

[Josh]

Oh, my God.

[Andrew]

Dude, I did that. I took some of my youth group kids. I got invited to an event, and it was, like, for his birthday. And we're going and we're up there, and he's just like, can you please go on this one? I really want to go. I'm like, dude, I hate heights. I can't unsecure heights. I can't do. And so he talked me into it, and I said, I have to do it. And so we're up there, and, dude, I am panicking. It's one of those incredibly high ones in Kansas City. I'm freaking out, and I'M screaming, I hate this. I hate this. And he's like. He's like. It's like, I hate my life. I was screaming, I hate my life. I hate my life. And then my buddy David, he's like, don't worry. It's almost over. And I was like, my life. Like, I literally where my life was. I was like, what are you talking about? He's like, no, the ride. I'm like, okay, dude, he was the worst. I hate them, dude.

[Josh]

No, they're the worst.

[Andrew]

They're terrible. There's been so many accidents coming out lately with videos of, like, carnival rides breaking and stuff. I saw one where literally, like, it was like, one of those scrambler almost things, and it came loose, and the girl broke her legs or something and got, like, trapped underneath. It's terrible.

[Taylor]

You know the big one, it's just like you sit in, like, a. Typically, it's a dragon.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

But did you see where it broke off the bottom and it. When it swung up, it was, like, teetering. And so I never. The video never showed if the thing tipped, but, yeah, I don't like it.

[Andrew]

You love amusement parks, but carnival rides are just a. It's a risk. You gamble, man. 9 out of 10. 9 times out of 10, you're gonna be fine. But it's always scary.

[Taylor]

It's pretty low odds. 9 out of 10.

[Andrew]

I mean, sure, I guess.

[Josh]

But speaking of scary.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Let's talk about this 3i Atlas again.

[Taylor]

Dude. Okay, what's going on? Literally not watched any of it because I knew you would be prepping to tell us.

[Josh]

Here's the thing, though. We're filming now. We were filming two weeks in advance because of the Florida torta.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Now we're filming one week in advance because we're going to Nashville. Larry Khan, which do you want to.

[Andrew]

Tell our next guests or next couple of guests?

[Josh]

No. We'll see.

[Andrew]

Okay.

[Josh]

Be a surprise.

[Lily]

All right, can you give me a quick recap on what's the three eye atlas?

[Taylor]

Sure.

[Josh]

It is the third observable outer.

[Taylor]

Or.

[Josh]

Comet or object that is outside of our solar system that has entered our solar system.

[Lily]

So, like, when we talking about something that's coming to get us, it's this thing.

[Andrew]

Yeah. The one that was going around the sun.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

So the last time this happened was actually in October of 2017, and it was the. It started with an O.

[Taylor]

I forget what it was called.

[Andrew]

I can't remember.

[Josh]

But it was the second one. This one's the third one. They're calling the three I atlas and we've talked about it before of just like so many weird variables about it. Like its size, it's like what it's made out of, its trajectory, how it's going like anti gravity, like it's going against the gravitational pull of stuff. And. But the Harvard professor who's like, he believes there's a probability that is alien technology, he said, because it's about to go around the sun, so we're about to lose sight of it. And he has a theory that it's going to go circle around the sun and then come right to Earth.

[Lily]

Oh gosh.

[Josh]

That's his theory.

[Andrew]

Based on science. Based on.

[Josh]

I don't, I have no idea.

[Lily]

Based on a gut feeling.

[Josh]

I know he's a smart dude. He's like the head of the chair of astronomy at Harvard or something.

[Lily]

Very cool, very cool.

[Josh]

But he said, I thought it did.

[Taylor]

Already come around the sun.

[Josh]

No, it's entering now. But he said basically. I forget what, he's like Swedish or something. He's like, you should plan your holiday for before October 29th.

[Lily]

Like on Wednesday.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Oh, what if our holiday is on October 29th?

[Josh]

He's just basically saying something's gonna happen. But by the time this comes out, we'll all know.

[Andrew]

Yeah, maybe this doesn't drop.

[Josh]

Yeah, but what's creepy? This is a creepy thing, which, I don't know. Take it how you want it. That same dude that you've seen it before, the ball guy that like did the. Does the prophecy stuff.

[Taylor]

Yes.

[Andrew]

Yeah, he, yeah, like he brings in an alien spirit into his body.

[Josh]

No, no, this is a different guy. No, this is a Christian guy.

[Andrew]

Okay.

[Josh]

I use that because I don't, I don't know. But he predicted like Trump getting shot in the ear like months before that.

[Andrew]

I think I know what you're talking about. Yeah.

[Josh]

But he basically had this revelation, this prophecy given to him of a object matching a lot of this same description stuff and then it coming, circling around the sun and then appearing to Earth and he's like. And it's this demonic deception, this alien craft and it's going like hovers above the ocean, it goes from country to country. And I'm just like, come on, man.

[Lily]

Oh boy.

[Andrew]

So you think freaking happen? No, no, I mean it would be, I mean it would make sense to have like if they're going to have a plan, it's a long term plan. It's something that they talk about for months. It leads up to it. You've heard about it. I don't really know. I've heard about it, though, you know, and like, it just slowly integrated into our, like, part of our daily talks and lives, and then suddenly it's here.

[Josh]

But it sounds a lot like what that Jeremy Corbell guy said where he said, the news is going to be talking about this. This object coming towards Earth or whatever, and then they're going to hint that it's alien technology, and then it's going to redirect and come straight towards Earth and that's when they're going to drop this news that it is an alien aircraft. He's like, it's all planned.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

It's like.

[Andrew]

I mean, it makes sense they're going to do it. I feel like this would be the smartest way to do it.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Like. Yeah, listen, we. We knew about it, but we didn't think it was alien. There was. It was. We didn't know what it was, but now we know and now we have. We have to band together, guys.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

We have to listen to our governments.

[Josh]

There's so many people saying different things about it. It's hard to keep track of, like, what's accurate.

[Andrew]

Sure.

[Josh]

But what we do know is that it's super weird, it's super big, and it's just doing all these anomalies that defy or go against the standard comet.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Like, observable comment.

[Andrew]

Yeah. Now I want to know because I've only heard about people from America or in America that are talking about this. So I'm wondering if all, you know, we have international scientists that are also looking at this. Astrologers. Yeah, they're looking at it because if it's a worldwide thing, then that's a whole lot less, you know, conspiracy. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Like, it's something that, like, everyone would have to be in on to make this happen.

[Taylor]

I don't know. But we don't have anything like that in the last four years where everybody got in on something. Yeah.

[Josh]

Who knows? Oh, man.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Josh]

But I'm just saying, weird stuff. These next coming weeks. If you see something, know that you heard about first. Ninjas are butterflies.

[Andrew]

What was that thing that you saw in your yard on your birthday?

[Lily]

The airplane?

[Josh]

No, it was a balloon.

[Andrew]

Oh, got it. I was just like.

[Josh]

I tried to make it a thing.

[Andrew]

Yeah. I was like, why?

[Lily]

Traumatized our daughter, too, Kevin, if you.

[Andrew]

Didn'T text us too. I was like, why did he just post it to a friend to us?

[Josh]

I wanted to see what you. If you guys would say anything back.

[Taylor]

I was gonna Say, that looks like a Mylar balloon, but I didn't know how to spell Mylar, so. Said nothing.

[Andrew]

I didn't say anything simply because I'm like, oh, if it. If he thought it was legit, he would 100% sent to a. To us.

[Josh]

Yeah. No, it was just a balloon. Yeah. I literally got me these 233 or balloon.

[Andrew]

Oh, yeah.

[Josh]

Three and a three. And I know it's bad to let balloons off.

[Lily]

Terrible.

[Andrew]

How else are you supposed to get rid of them?

[Josh]

That's what I'm saying.

[Lily]

Pop them.

[Josh]

Pop them. You can't just do that.

[Andrew]

It's gas.

[Josh]

Yeah. You want to put the helium back in the world?

[Andrew]

I literally released those two butterfly ones this weekend with Zola in the backyard. I was just like, let's just get rid of it. So we just cut it and we just watched him.

[Josh]

I know, but Josh let go of.

[Lily]

All of Ada's birthday balloons. The whole time. My heart is pe. Like this.

[Andrew]

Why?

[Lily]

It freaks me out. I don't know why. It's bad for animals.

[Andrew]

I know, but it's so fun for animals. Of all the littering that the government does and all this stuff, you worried about a balloon?

[Lily]

Dude, I'm a nut about littering. I tell our girls if they litter, I have to go to jail. If they litter, the police will come get me.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Lily]

And they won't see me again.

[Andrew]

Look at them. Say, give a hoot, don't pollute.

[Josh]

But Jane was traumatized. Like, she was going, like, weeping over this bullet. She's like, get it back. I said, but it's going to China. I said, so when they. When it gets to China, I'll call them and I'll ask, can we get her bullying back? She's like, promise.

[Andrew]

But, yeah, you say that. That's how I got Zola to do it, because she didn't want to give him rid of them. I'm like, let's make a wish. And so she. She had me back up, though. She's like, I want you to hear my wish.

[Taylor]

Okay, Dude, I got something terrible.

[Andrew]

Her first wish was that Jesus comes back soon.

[Lily]

Oh, my God.

[Andrew]

That was like, I hope so, too.

[Josh]

Well, Atlas.

[Andrew]

Yeah, hopefully so good, dude.

[Taylor]

Sorry to do this. Andy. I know you got a cruise coming up. Yeah, where? Where are you guys again? On cruises. You love them, Hate them.

[Andrew]

Josh.

[Lily]

Josh hasn't done EMDR about his cruise yet, so we don't know if they're.

[Andrew]

Good or bad or if you're ever gonna do one again.

[Lily]

He's literally still extremely traumatized you and.

[Andrew]

You and the girls can come along with us.

[Lily]

Thanks.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Lily]

I'm not anti. I think it'll be fun. It was hard when we had the Littles because they couldn't do anything, but now they're bigger, so.

[Taylor]

Paige loves Disney. I'm sure a Disney cruise is something that she would enjoy. But finding out this fact maybe, like, never want to do. So you know, they're in floors, and if you've ever been, like, in a building, when an evacuation happens, it can be, like, chaos. Like, people trample each other. So I didn't know this is true. But apparently the lower floors, if the evacuation order is bad enough, they have tech on these things where they systemically lock the doors so the lower decks cannot overrun in crowds. So evacuation can happen safely floor by floor.

[Josh]

Oh, my God.

[Taylor]

Is that not the sketchiest thing you've ever heard?

[Andrew]

What if the tech wears out or, like, glitches out while it's crashing? Yeah, like, and it doesn't. You can't turn them back on.

[Lily]

Thanks, Andrew. We're never going on a cruise again.

[Andrew]

Hey, just get a balcony. Balcony door, and then bring some inflatables.

[Lily]

I will say we were.

[Taylor]

We.

[Lily]

Ryan Trahan made another video recently, and you have to watch it because he's on your ship.

[Andrew]

I think the biggest. Yeah.

[Lily]

Are you going on the Icon or the Utopia?

[Andrew]

Utopia.

[Lily]

Yeah. Okay. Well, they're similar, I think, but he did the rooms, and I looked up, and the. If you're going with a family of four, it's not insanely different to do one of the nicer rooms.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Lily]

And I'm like, we could do that. I'm not really a cruiser either. You guys are going to have a blast.

[Andrew]

But get a travel agent. That's what I'm saying. We booked through a travel agent. Didn't cost us anything, and it made it so easy.

[Lily]

Awesome.

[Andrew]

We just say, hey, these are kind of like the areas the days we want to go.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

And there was, like, a million options, and then incredibly affordable. Like, I tell the deals to people that go on cruises, and they're like, yeah, that's amazing. I'm like, okay, good.

[Lily]

I actually just had, like, a revelation, and I have to share this with you because I'm a real freak. You guys are late to a lot of things.

[Andrew]

Sure.

[Lily]

Do not get late going back on a cruise ship. You will be locked out.

[Andrew]

You know, I've told them. I'm like, we are not going to be on one of those because you, like. Yeah, you See videos where they get on the dock.

[Josh]

They will leave you.

[Andrew]

You just have to fly back. But I'm like, how do you do that when your passport's not with you?

[Josh]

I know you're supposed to bring your passport.

[Lily]

Take your passport with you when you get off the boat.

[Andrew]

Good.

[Lily]

But. But also, you guys are a very vibes centric family.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Lily]

So you're going to be like, we're having a ball.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Lily]

You're going to be distracted by.

[Andrew]

No, I. I will be the one that's like checking. Yep. But we're only going to get off on one. There's two ports. We're only going to get off one because everyone gets off. Most people get off and it's like, that's when the water slides are most open. The pools are less busy. I'm like, let's do that.

[Lily]

Which one are you getting off on?

[Andrew]

I can't remember. I get. There's one with their.

[Josh]

Their island.

[Taylor]

Right.

[Andrew]

I think their island. We're getting off because.

[Taylor]

Sick.

[Andrew]

Yeah. The other ones that. It's like, you have to like, taxi a lot of places too, and stuff. I'm like, yeah, no, thank you.

[Taylor]

Taxi.

[Lily]

Yeah. Cococay is the foe shizzle. Dude.

[Andrew]

I can't wait. We're gonna. I'm gonna eat like a monster.

[Taylor]

Dude.

[Josh]

Speaking of monsters, I got a monster story.

[Taylor]

We got a Cryptid story. It's been a minute.

[Josh]

Almost.

[Taylor]

Almost. Okay.

[Josh]

Shapeshifter story.

[Taylor]

That counts.

[Andrew]

Shape shifter.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Is it different than a skinwalker?

[Josh]

Basically the same thing. Okay. Yeah.

[Andrew]

All right.

[Josh]

We'll call a skinwalker story.

[Taylor]

Sure.

[Josh]

Shape shifting. Skinwalker story. It has to be. And it's in Florida.

[Taylor]

Oh, same.

[Josh]

Yeah. Shapeshifter in Florida. Shout out to this Instagram. Florida folk history. It's awesome. Where I first saw it, the man named Uncle Monday.

[Andrew]

Uncle Monday.

[Josh]

Uncle Monday.

[Andrew]

Great name.

[Josh]

But he was apparently this legendary conjure man way back in the day when there was like slaves and stuff in the United States and he was captured in Africa. He was enslaved in South Carolina and he escaped to Florida and joined the Seminole tribe in Florida.

[Andrew]

No way. This is a movie, bro. That sounds awesome.

[Josh]

But he was a active practicer of. This is a new thing that I learned. It's called hoodoo.

[Andrew]

Hoodoo.

[Josh]

Not voodoo. Hoodoo.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And it's very ritualistic stuff. Basically it's a combination of the American south, like Mississippi, Louisiana, Georgia, or that's where it all was. But it's a combination of African herbal medicine, Bible verses, and European folk magic.

[Taylor]

Weird.

[Lily]

Wow.

[Taylor]

Not a Great.

[Andrew]

That's the unholy trinity.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Right. But this guy, he came from Africa, and apparently he was this, like, witch doctor Hoodoo.

[Taylor]

Witch.

[Josh]

Was that funny?

[Andrew]

It's. Right. It's. I just got a notification. It's starting to rain soon again. Chemtrails are coming, baby.

[Josh]

Rain. But he apparently was able to communicate and, like, talk to crocodiles when he was in Africa.

[Lily]

Wow.

[Josh]

And so he. He fled to Florida, joined the Seminole tribe, and they taught him their local magic of communicating with alligators. And legend has it that he was so good at harnessing these entities, these spirits, that he would literally transform into an alligator. And so there was, like, this ceremony that they did, and they would dance the drums, and then while they're doing it, like, it said his leg shortened, his skin turned to scales, and his voice thundered. Alligators rose from the swamp to greet their new king. So they call him Uncle Monday, king over the alligators.

[Andrew]

So these alligators would just come out and worship him.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

What in the world?

[Josh]

So apparently I'll just read some of this. Uncle Monday could shift between man and gator at will. He taught his way to a woman named Judy Bronson, who claimed her power rivaled his. One day, she went fishing at Blue Sink, his sacred domain. Despite the warnings, as soon as her line hit the water, a force pulled her in. She froze, trapped between the dark and deep. Then Uncle Monday walked across the water in flowing robes with an army of alligators behind him. He told her. He told her he'd only release her if she admitted his powers were greater. And then it says that she finally, like, said, yes, your powers are greater.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And he said basically, he was. So he hated the white man, obviously, at that time.

[Andrew]

Sure.

[Josh]

And he said, I will never be captured or killed by a white man, so I'm going to become a gator until all the. The violence between the white men stops. So legend has it he's still out there. Uncle Monday is still a gator somewhere in the swamps in Florida.

[Andrew]

Oh, goodness, dude.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

That's a fun story. That's a terrifying story.

[Josh]

Yeah. But it was a huge folklore, even, like, within the Native American tribes, like, this African man could literally transform into an alligator, and he controlled all the gators like he was the king of alligators.

[Taylor]

That's.

[Josh]

And you hear that and you're like, all right, this definitely sounds like some folklore stuff.

[Taylor]

Sure.

[Josh]

But I was talking to Taylor about it because Taylor used to live in Zambia, and one of his best buddies in Zambia, Mazinga is his name.

[Andrew]

Okay.

[Josh]

And Taylor has some crazy stories about some witch doctors in Zambia.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

But Mazinga was telling Taylor he knew of this witch doctor in his village who would literally transform into a lion and kill his enemies. And they're like, okay, yeah. And he's like, fazing is like, no, I watched him in front of me turn into a lion and go off and kill people, dude. So it is a real practice. Yeah, that happens in Africa or at least it's told it happens.

[Andrew]

I mean just imagine seeing that.

[Josh]

I know, yeah.

[Andrew]

Like we truly think it is a fantasy, you know, like idea that like that even happens. Something in cinema that happens, you know, but like that's, that's true.

[Josh]

I mean we talked about skinwalker stories. Like every culture around the world, it just all connects with this certain type of evil where they could literally harness. But a lot of the hoodoo stuff.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

It has a lot to do with root cuttings and if we know anything about. We'll talk about root cuttings.

[Andrew]

Sure.

[Josh]

Pharmakeya. It's the watchers. The watchers.

[Lily]

This story is interesting too. Did Taylor specifically see this or did somebody that Taylor knew saw it? Where the. The witch doctor was walking to the woods.

[Josh]

I think that was also. Also. Or that was somebody else. Yeah, yeah.

[Lily]

And slithered into the woods.

[Josh]

Yeah, but that wasn't in Zambia, I don't think. I think that was like in the Congo.

[Lily]

Oh, okay.

[Taylor]

Yeah, sorry, I'm add. Finish. Sorry.

[Lily]

Well, no, I was going to segue, so you go ahead.

[Taylor]

Do you know where he was based? Uncle Monday?

[Josh]

It was like Eatonville or something.

[Taylor]

No, where literally. I looked it up and I thought Chat GPT knew where I was. It literally says Uncle Monday's home. Her final transform site was right near Lake Dora in Lake County. Old storytellers say he fled into the swamps between Lake Dora, Lake Eustis and Lake Beauclair.

[Andrew]

What?

[Taylor]

It's here.

[Andrew]

That's the let's. Right there, 100 yards away.

[Lily]

You know they had that tribute to the gator downtown.

[Andrew]

Old Joe Joe.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Lily]

I wonder if it's like a similar thing. There's also a gator that's in there. That is humongous. The gators in Lake Dorsey are protected. You can't get them. They're.

[Andrew]

Why are they protected?

[Taylor]

They're not protected. Everyone.

[Josh]

Uncle Monday.

[Andrew]

Uncle Monday's protecting them.

[Lily]

There's. There's an alligator that is an absolute monster at Lake Dora and he's missing an arm. He's a three legged gator.

[Andrew]

Can you read further that Uncle Monday was missing an arm from the slave days.

[Lily]

Interesting.

[Andrew]

Could you imagine?

[Lily]

Crazy. Wow, Andrew. What a cool. What a cool dude.

[Andrew]

Good one.

[Josh]

Oh, man, I didn't see that when.

[Taylor]

I was reading that. That's legit. I pro. I promise.

[Andrew]

My gosh, what a fun story.

[Taylor]

Lake Dora is considered Uncle Monday swamp, his sacred ground in the place where he is still said to rise when thunder rolls across the water.

[Andrew]

Dude, guys, for those of you watching, we are literally on Lake Dora right now.

[Josh]

If you were to walk out of this door, you could see less than a block away.

[Lily]

That's why.

[Josh]

Crazy.

[Andrew]

Awesome.

[Lily]

That's why I always say everybody's. I would never in my life swim in Lake Dora. Not only is it riddled with alligators, it's also heavily polluted.

[Andrew]

The sandbar is cool, though.

[Lily]

Sandbar's sick. I actually have swam at the sandbar.

[Andrew]

Sandbar is pretty cool.

[Lily]

What I was going to say is, you were saying it's associated with this evil, this transformation, the skinwalker stuff. Which is true. It is associated with evil, but also God transformed Nebuchadnezzar into a beast. And we just did that study.

[Taylor]

Possibly.

[Josh]

I think he did get.

[Taylor]

I mean, it.

[Lily]

You think it's a metaphor or beast.

[Josh]

He's, like, driven crazy or something.

[Taylor]

I mean, can't definitively know. I think both narratives fit, but it's interesting. I'll give it that.

[Andrew]

Is there any other similarities in the Bible like that? Like, skinwalker transformation?

[Taylor]

John the Baptist. We figured that one out.

[Josh]

Camel here.

[Taylor]

Yep.

[Josh]

Just turn into a camel.

[Taylor]

That's how he survived.

[Andrew]

That'd be dope.

[Lily]

In the Nebuchadnezzar story, it talks about how he transformed into an animal for seven seasons.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Or seven periods of time. And then, like, he couldn't distinguish, like, the dew on his back and stuff like that, until one day his eyes were meant to see, and then he was transformed back.

[Taylor]

So he. Yeah. I need to go back and, like, really, really read that, because that is interesting.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

And I didn't talk about skinwalkers once in my BSF study.

[Andrew]

You got to let loose.

[Lily]

No, I don't want to ruin it for all these other ladies.

[Taylor]

Question. Do you believe it's true?

[Lily]

I believe that really happened. Yeah.

[Taylor]

Then you would be enlightening, not ruining.

[Lily]

Yeah, I know.

[Andrew]

That's my thing. It's like, people say Jonah is. You know, that you can't take that literally. But it's like, who are we to say? Because the Bible has no problem saying, like, hey, this is a poem. This is a fable. This is a parable.

[Lily]

Well, and then, like.

[Andrew]

Like, if we could take it. If it's taken literally, then it's like, this is a crazy thing that happened in the Bible.

[Lily]

What is the passage when Jesus was talking about. They're like, what is your next miracle, Lord?

[Josh]

And he said, the next miracle sign of Jonah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But people say that Jonah was alive. He was definitely dead in the fish.

[Lily]

Yeah. And was revived.

[Andrew]

He prayed in the belly of the whale.

[Josh]

No, it said he was in Sheol. Prayed in Sheol?

[Andrew]

Is that what it says?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

I don't know our Bibles, everybody.

[Andrew]

I mean, let's do it. Let's pull it out. Because I don't remember this.

[Josh]

Which would make more sense for the prophecy of Christ. Right. Because Christ died.

[Andrew]

Well, I think he just said. He's like. Just like Jonah was in the belly of a fish for three days. I will be in the belly of the earth. Yeah, but look it up.

[Josh]

He was in. It says, Sheol.

[Taylor]

They also. They also taught that the spirit didn't depart the body for three days. So in their traditions, he would have still been with his body in the belly for three days. That's the significance of Jesus being in the. In the tomb for that period of time. Oh, yeah. We can do a little reading. I can cut this section out also.

[Josh]

What you need to cut out is Andy dropping my history address.

[Taylor]

Did he.

[Andrew]

Oh, I said Lake Joanna Lake, belly of the fish for three days and three nights. Then Jonah prayed to the Lord, his God, from the belly of the fish, saying, he answered me out of the belly of Sheol, I cried and heard my voice for you cast me into the deep. And so he says his prayer, but doesn't mean he's actually in.

[Josh]

It says, from the belly of Sheol, Abraham's bosom.

[Taylor]

So is he like. Like, that's a question then that I don't know. That we'll know is if I'm like, I'm in hell right now. Am I in hell or.

[Andrew]

Yeah, like, I mean, if you're in the belly of fish, he doesn't know he's gonna be puked out of this fish.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

So in his mind, if he's surviving, then he's praying and saying, yeah, you know, I'm.

[Josh]

Either way.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

I mean, like. Yeah, that's the thing. It doesn't really matter, but it is very interesting. I like that.

[Josh]

You know what? I like that.

[Andrew]

I'm into that.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Josh]

So that's. That's. That the world is crazy.

[Lily]

What were you going to Say about evil Watchers, were you going to segue into something?

[Andrew]

Oh, we're just talking about skinwalkers and.

[Josh]

I just thought it was crazy how they really specify of like how they do all the like root cuttings and speaking with the spirits through it. But they don't. They don't worship anything. That's the thing. That's the difference between voodoo and hoodoo. Voodoo actually worships like a God or entities or gods, whatever. But hoodoo, they just do the actual practice of magic without worshiping or like. It's not like a religion in a way though.

[Lily]

Are they worshiping like the earth?

[Josh]

Not necessarily. I mean. I mean, I don't know.

[Lily]

Yeah, it's interesting.

[Josh]

It's just like. It's almost like pass down ceremonial magic that they do.

[Lily]

Wow.

[Josh]

That they can achieve stuff like have good luck or to them it's.

[Taylor]

To them it's like a science.

[Josh]

Yeah. Crazy stuff.

[Andrew]

Yeah. Makes you wonder, man. And there's like such like all this witch stuff on TikTok, like, where people like literally just embrace it and like talk about it and like condone it. Bad stuff and like, what. So, like, what are you stuff you guys getting into? Which things? And it's like, what are we doing?

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Don't they know that they sub burn them?

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Better be careful, ladies.

[Taylor]

You don't know you.

[Josh]

We might get back to that.

[Andrew]

Yeah. What happened to wizards as well? If we're gonna have witches, why can't we have dudes that are just committed to being wizards? Like, where's the guys that are just like, giving up, quitting their jobs, living in the woods, growing out their beards with a pointy, Walking around with pointy hats and cloaks?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Like, yeah, I won't be. I won't be for it, but at least I want to see some representation from the male community.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

I saw a hilarious video the other day that I was talking about. It's this couple that does like historical skits. So like historical fiction skits that they make up. And one of them is, they went to like another hearing at. For like one of the witch trials. It was like 1600s Massachusetts. And she's like, should I just speak up so that everybody can stop inviting me to these things? Should I just say that I'm a witch? I'm not, but I'm tired of going to these freaking events. Just burn me next.

[Josh]

That was so funny.

[Andrew]

Who's the guy that plays Gabe off of Zach Woods? Zach Woods. Have you seen him with Rick Glassman? Talk about the Blair Witch trials.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

So freaking fun. It was my favorite clips of all time.

[Josh]

You know what's my favorite clip of all time?

[Andrew]

What?

[Josh]

Patreon.com Ninjas are butterflies where we're gonna be talking about additional stuff and taking.

[Andrew]

My blood out of my body.

[Josh]

That's right. And I, I got a cool story about this one, Monk. Very cool. And I'm going to talk about my theory a little bit.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Taylor]

I'm looking forward to that.

[Josh]

It's. It's like, you know when you, you say something like while you're like asleep and you wake up and like, oh, that's such a good idea. And the longer you stay awake, you're like, that's a terrible idea.

[Andrew]

The dumbest.

[Josh]

It might be that.

[Andrew]

So I've done that where I come up with a video idea and I write it down in my notes and then I wake up the next day, I'm like, what?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Well, it's a cardboard box. What? Yeah. Make sure you go to patreon.com guys. So there's behind the scenes footage that you guys don't ever see on or on the podcast that's gonna be on Patreon as well. You get extra episodes. You get behind the scenes content discount codes. The best place in the world. Or you can become a YouTube member today for also that extra content. Yes, absolutely.

[Josh]

Absolutely. And guys, make sure to give us some five stars because we've been, we've been slacking lately.

[Andrew]

Spotify. Spotify took down our episode this past weekend. And so we're trying to get that back up. So it just helps the more reviews we have. I know you guys. I listen every time I get on an app and it says, do you love this app? I hit no, because I don't want to go the app store and do it. But please, for this podcast, we know you. We love you. You know us. It helps us tremendously.

[Josh]

It does.

[Andrew]

So leave a crazy wacky review. Do what you can.

[Lily]

Give us five stars and go on YouTube and comment. Boogers or pee pee.

[Andrew]

Boogers or pee pee.

[Taylor]

Yep.

[Josh]

All right, guys, love you.

[Taylor]

Love you.

[Andrew]

Bye bye, dolphins.

[Taylor]

What you're about to see. Wow.

[Lily]

May disturb you.

[Taylor]

I'm gonna.

[Andrew]

If any of you know what these.

[Taylor]

Multi decade UAP dolphins are.

[Andrew]

Aliens.

[Josh]

Bottle nose fish.

[Taylor]

Pigs.

[Lily]

There's a massive police response.

[Andrew]

Oh, the dolphin thing. Oh my God.

[Taylor]

Dolphin style attack. Here's a hint for our next guest, one of our next.

[Josh]

Johnny Cat.

[Andrew]

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[Josh]

X and S, and PC rated T for teenager.