169 - Escaping Death in Siberia, Dogman Attack, & The Pit from Hell

Summary

Ninjas Are Butterflies – Episode 169 Summary

Title: Escaping Death in Siberia, Dogman Attack, & The Pit from Hell
Date: November 21, 2025
Hosts: Josh Hooper, Andy DeNoon, Lily, Andrew
Theme: An off-the-rails, hilarious but wide-ranging episode covering wilderness survival legends, cryptids, alleged wartime atrocities, ancient mysteries, and wild inventions—with classic in-jokes and comedic chemistry throughout.

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Overview

This episode delivers a wild ride through topics both bizarre and fascinating, with the hosts riffing on everything from mystical pits and cryptids to technology, apocalypse cycles, and holiday anxieties. Laughter is ever-present, even as they explore some genuinely dark subject matter—including a Siberian survivor’s life story, harrowing conspiracy-laced wartime tales, and infamous “Pits from Hell.” Along the way, listeners get a healthy dose of pop culture, banter, new inventions, and classic “Would You Rather” scenarios.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Ridiculous Consumerism and Holiday Mayhem

• Timestamp: 02:00–07:00
• The group dives into Black Friday madness, thrift store deals, and shopping “primal” urges.
• Humorous stories about finding crazy deals (like $4 shoes and a souped-up kid’s Jeep).
• Josh quips, “I got Theo a pair of shoes for nothing. And they’re brand new. Never worn. For nothing. It’s $4. That’s nothing.” (02:31)

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2. Banter on Family, Health, and Diets

• Timestamp: 07:00–16:00
• Classic spiraling “family is important” holiday discussions—satirizing how holidays can trigger stress and pass-the-blame dynamics.
• “For everything that goes wrong in your life, it’s important to blame your family.” – Lily (14:57)
• Quick dive into health trends, diets, and bathroom humor about electrolyte drinks.

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3. Comedy Song: ‘3i Atlas’

• Timestamp: 09:22–12:11
• Josh debuts a melancholy-funny song to the tune of a lost alien probe, “3i Atlas”—a tongue-in-cheek ballad about cosmic heartbreak (space probe reference, possibly the defunct 2025 Atlas mission).
• “Rumors say that you just broke apart, but what you really did was break my own heart.” – Lily (09:43)

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4. Deep Tech Talk: AI, Elon, and the Coming Singularity

• Timestamp: 34:43–54:54
• Serious (but still comedic) chat about Apple’s outrageous “Apple Pocket”—nothing but a nylon sock for your phone, retailing at $230+.
• Discussion of AI governance, Elon Musk’s candid AI interview (referencing his appearance on Joe Rogan), and existential danger in a hyperconnected, simulated world.
• “He believes we’re living in a simulation. That’s his religion.” – Andy (49:00)
• Reference to Peter Layden’s 80-year technological cycles and prediction of AI-led global governance by 2050 (52:35–53:39).
• The hosts ponder: Will AI lead to global unity or dystopia? And how does that intersect with faith and bias?

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5. Conspiracies: Chemtrails, Cookies, and Cannibalism

• Timestamp: 36:26–41:13, 84:17–85:19
• Urban legends about Danish butter cookies being made in India—complete with “rat factory” propaganda videos (rat possibly AI-generated).
• Joking about propaganda in snack wars: “For listeners, know that we are not anti-them because they’re made in India. We’re anti-them because they were made in a rat factory.” – Andy (39:33)

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6. Inventions and Old World Tech

• Timestamp: 40:10–41:41, 100:13–104:56
• Discussion of modern “flying cars” (cockpit drones for almost $200K).
• The awe-inspiring Crystal Palace of Victorian England—a feat of architecture built for an exhibition, later relocated and burned down.
• “Talk about old technology … with the intention of knowing you’re gonna take it apart and rebuild—like it’s not a permanent structure. That’s crazy.” – Josh (102:32)

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7. Wilderness Survival: The Legend of Agafia Lakova

• Timestamp: 72:32–80:28
• Lily recounts the epic survival of Agafia Lakova, whose family fled into the Siberian wilderness to escape Soviet persecution and lived in isolation for over 40 years.
• Agafia’s siblings succumbed to disease after first contact with outsiders in 1978, yet she remains alive and self-sufficient—as of this episode.
• Chilling note: Agafia’s comments about chemtrails and the Antichrist lend an apocalyptic undertone to her story.
• “This lady who’s been living in the Siberian wilderness was commenting on chemtrails. She said, those clouds that these planes put out make it rain or snow. And it makes me and the animals feel sick.” – Lily (78:40)

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8. Wartime Atrocities: Sarajevo’s ‘Sniper Tourist’ Allegations

• Timestamp: 82:16–84:53
• Lily brings up new (2025) allegations of 1990s Sarajevo becoming a “human safari” for wealthy European “sniper tourists”—paying soldiers to let them shoot at civilians.
• The group is horrified: “That’s crazy. I mean, that’s stuff you watch in movies.” – Josh (84:32)

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9. Legends & The Paranormal: The Pit from Hell

• Timestamp: 85:20–90:03
• The legend of Houseka Castle (Bohemia/Czechia), built atop a mysterious pit allegedly emitting creatures and hellish screams.
• Nazis re-opened the pit in WWII for occult research and witnessed bizarre phenomena—creatures, rapid aging in prisoners, and demonic events.
• “Modern day, no one’s tested what’s in this pit … Let’s do a GoFundMe—open the pit!” – Josh (89:54)

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10. Cryptids: Dogman Attack in Pennsylvania

• Timestamp: 91:25–96:51
• Andrew recounts “one of the scariest stories he’s ever read”: a coyote hunter in Green County, PA, encounters a seven-foot “dogman” during a winter night hunt.
• The cryptid shows intelligence, unnatural movement, and glowing yellow eyes, is shot but vanishes, leaving unsettling tracks and a blood trail to nowhere.
• “It had human hands with long claws… I mean, it’s 10ft away, like, what do I do next?” – Andrew (93:24)

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11. Bird or Human? Would You Rather & Animal Origin Tales

• Timestamp: 61:32–68:09
• Lily hosts a hilarious “Would You Rather” on whether you’d like to be born a human turning 1% more bird each year, or vice versa.
• Discussion of which bird each host would be, and the childhood story Lily tells her daughters: “Underneath the rock was Baby Jane.” (65:04)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Agafia’s Survival:
  “She’s lived in the Siberian wilderness since the 1940s ... They lived without human contact until the 1970s.” – Lily (72:45)
• On “Truth” & AI Bias:
  “To say that truth is not relative—you would need an implication of faith ... There’s no way for them to do that unless there’s a singular accepted faith.” – Andrew (45:06)
• On the Pit from Hell:
  “They would have these prisoners—death penalty or lowered into the pit ... when they came out, they had aged ... There’s demons living in this pit.” – Lily (88:21)
• On Cryptid Encounters:
  “He whips around and there’s this seven-foot creature that drops from 10ft away, drops to all fours … this thing had human hands with long claws.” – Andrew (93:24)
• On Global Tech Governance:
  “He believes within 2025 to 2050 at one point we will have a global governance … primarily ran by AI.” – Lily (53:06)
• On Humanity’s Decline:
  “Humanity is broken. That’s why we need Jesus. I don’t think there is a fix.” – Andrew (50:11)
• On Old World Tech:
  “How do you build something like that with the intention of knowing you’re gonna take it apart and relocate?” – Josh (102:32)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Shopping/Consumerism Banter: 02:00–07:00
• Family, Dieting, Comedy Song: 07:00–12:11
• AI & Elon Musk Deep Dive: 34:43–54:54
• Siberian Survival Story (Agafia): 72:32–80:28
• Sarajevo Sniper Tourist Atrocity: 82:16–84:53
• The Pit from Hell: 85:20–90:03
• Dogman Attack in PA: 91:25–96:51
• Would You Rather (Bird or Human): 61:32–68:09
• Crystal Palace & Old World Fairs: 100:13–104:56

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Tone & Notable Vibes

The hosts maintain relentless, often self-deprecating humor—even while covering dark or sensational stories (Siberian hermits, “dogman” attacks, sniper tourists). They frequently roast each other, delve into pop culture riffs, and invoke ongoing, inside jokes (running gags: bodily functions, cryptid stories, tech rants). Even as they discuss technology’s dangers or end-times anxieties, the mood is zany, sharp, and irreverent, making for an entertaining but substantive listen.

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For Next Time

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This episode encapsulates “Ninjas Are Butterflies” at its outrageous best: one moment riffing on thrift shopping or AI dystopia, the next uncovering legends from lost Siberian saints and cryptid-infested forests—always high on laughs and low on structure in the best possible way.

Transcript

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[Andrew]

And if you like Cryptid stories, we've got one of the scariest ones that we've ever talked about involves hunting coyotes and something else in the woods. You're not gonna want to miss it. Have you heard of the pit from hell?

[Lily]

Was located near Prague, and there's demons.

[Andrew]

Crawling out of it.

[Lily]

We'll tell you more about it. Just keep watching.

[Andy]

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[Josh]

Wasn't sure where she was going.

[Lily]

Me neither.

[Josh]

I was like, I think she forgot what she was supposed to say.

[Andrew]

Well done.

[Andy]

They have swimming pools. They have games, everything. They have clothes. They have pottery.

[Josh]

No matter what it is, it's $4.

[Andy]

$4. It's all the same, priced lower than $4.

[Josh]

Like, it's crazy.

[Andy]

What?

[Lily]

Yeah, well, they have, like, big stuff.

[Andy]

They got nice clothes. It's all target stuff. It's all target stuff. Okay.

[Josh]

It's all target stuff.

[Lily]

All right.

[Andy]

I get a text from Anna before I go. She doesn't even know I'm going. And she's like, my children all need shoes. She's like, they're growing out of them and they're losing them. And she's like, these are their sizes right there. Theo's size. I got Theo a pair of shoes for nothing.

[Josh]

And they're brand new.

[Andy]

Never Worn for nothing.

[Josh]

It's $4. That's nothing.

[Andy]

That's literally.

[Josh]

That's literally nothing.

[Andy]

It's free. And then I go up there, and she's like, oh, you qualify for an extra thing because you bought all this stuff. Qualify? Is that what I said? She said, go pick out something else. I'm like, what? Okay.

[Josh]

Seems like a scam. Seems like a scam.

[Lily]

Consumerism.

[Andy]

They did have a big Jeep for kids, like the ones that they drive.

[Lily]

Around for four bucks.

[Andy]

No, that one they marked up. That one they marked up.

[Lily]

You can't do that.

[Andy]

Anyway, it takes Jamie 200 bucks.

[Andrew]

What?

[Andy]

Hey. But those things are. It was a nice one. It goes fast. It goes really fast.

[Lily]

400 bucks.

[Andy]

This one goes crazy fast. I read the box.

[Lily]

This one goes crazy fast.

[Josh]

Did you watch, like, one of the 2000 commercials?

[Andrew]

Hey, kids.

[Andy]

Anyway, I got my Christmas outfit.

[Lily]

Don't get one of these jeeps.

[Andrew]

They go crazy slow.

[Lily]

But this one for 200 bucks, goes crazy fast.

[Andy]

It did unlock some kind of primal, animalistic thing in my head because there's other people shopping around you, and you're like, I'm gonna get the best deal.

[Josh]

Black Friday, literally.

[Lily]

Was it crowded?

[Andy]

No, I think today's the day to go. She. I asked her what Saturday's like, and she's like, mayhem. Never come.

[Josh]

Is it open all day?

[Andrew]

Where is it?

[Andy]

It's open every day. I don't know about all day. Open at 9.

[Lily]

Was it across the street from Golden Corral?

[Andy]

It's where that stinky food market used to be.

[Josh]

Stinky food market?

[Andrew]

Like, in town here?

[Andy]

Like, by big lots?

[Andrew]

Oh, yeah.

[Lily]

There was a stinky food market. Yeah, some cheap stuff, but stinky.

[Andy]

It smelled like rotten vegetables in there. Rotten.

[Josh]

You just don't like the way she's pronouncing things today, do you?

[Andy]

He's mad at me for being late. He's mad at me for being late and misleading because I was like, we got to. We got to get in there. We got to do the show right now because. Chop, chop, because Heather needs to go to an appointment. And then I talked to her. She was like, no.

[Josh]

That'S something I made up in my head.

[Andy]

He canceled his appointment this morning, ran in all these things for it to be a farce.

[Lily]

I put my mental health on the back burner today.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Andy]

I'm sorry.

[Josh]

It's okay.

[Andrew]

What are you sorry for?

[Andy]

I told him to keep his appointment.

[Andrew]

Yeah, that sounds like you messed up.

[Josh]

You're gonna sound.

[Lily]

No, she's like, I'm gonna I gotta be there at like 9:15 and my appointment ends at 9. Not gonna work.

[Andy]

You could have done it. You could have done it.

[Josh]

Yeah. With his. In the back of his mind, he's like, oh, as soon as I, you know, I'm gonna get my mind ready. I'm gonna really think about all my trauma and everything like that and really try to deal with it. But also right after I get out of here, after jet across town just to make my wife happy.

[Andy]

We could do EMDR right now. We could do it right now on this show.

[Lily]

Why did you do that to me?

[Josh]

No.

[Lily]

Oh, man.

[Josh]

That made a joke. Didn't do it.

[Andrew]

Thursday.

[Josh]

Thursday, baby.

[Lily]

Thursday, baby.

[Andrew]

Andy, check your mic. It's quieter than normal.

[Josh]

Check, check, check, one, two. It's. It's good in my head. Check, check, check, one, 2. One, two, one, two. Check, one, two.

[Andrew]

Maybe got a little knock in the box or something.

[Lily]

Knock in the box.

[Andy]

Andrew, is Jean Page home?

[Andrew]

She is. It goes crazy. Oh, yeah. What?

[Lily]

No, that's all right.

[Josh]

Oh, man, I feel so good to have the family back together before the.

[Lily]

Holidays, before the holiday.

[Josh]

Thanksgiving is next week and we might have a special guest. Possibly.

[Lily]

Possibly a Thanksgiving miracle.

[Josh]

Yes. Family coming together.

[Lily]

All of us together.

[Josh]

Yes. Forever.

[Lily]

To cut into the Jackie.

[Josh]

Yes. And share politics.

[Andrew]

Yes.

[Lily]

Gossip and love.

[Andrew]

Yes. Yes.

[Lily]

Political views. Oh, look at you drinking that limit element.

[Josh]

Element Salty water.

[Lily]

Do that every time I've drank that, it gives me the runs instantly.

[Josh]

Really?

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

What's in it that does salt.

[Andrew]

Wait.

[Andy]

Like a thousand milligrams of sodium.

[Andrew]

But is it a sugar free electrolyte mix?

[Lily]

I don't know.

[Andrew]

Because that would be why you're getting runs.

[Andy]

Yeah. No sugar.

[Andrew]

That's what it is. You're doing the gummy bear challenge.

[Andy]

Salt, citric acid, magnesium, malate.

[Lily]

Oh, magnesium, potassium.

[Andy]

Now I'm scared because I had the runs yesterday.

[Josh]

Is that the stuff that comes out.

[Andy]

Of a melon leaf extract?

[Andrew]

Yes.

[Josh]

You guys, girls don't poo.

[Andy]

Oh, my God.

[Lily]

Talk about that.

[Josh]

Oh, my.

[Lily]

Can't talk about that.

[Josh]

But we are on a health journey, aren't we, Josh?

[Andrew]

Yep.

[Josh]

Yep. We started our little diet today. I feel good. Monday was rough.

[Andy]

Yeah. You guys look a little peaked right now.

[Lily]

Yeah, yeah. I've already. I gained a lot of weight in Nashville.

[Josh]

I've lost £26 in two days. Not sure if that's. I think it's good.

[Lily]

Yeah, that's good.

[Josh]

Feel good.

[Andy]

Did you put on any weight in Nashville?

[Josh]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. At least three pounds.

[Andy]

I miraculously did not even though I was gluttonous.

[Josh]

Yeah. I mean, it was hard not to be.

[Lily]

We gotta take our before pictures, dude.

[Josh]

Yeah. Now that we're fatter after Nashville.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Lily]

We have to because it'll be more. That much more impressive.

[Josh]

They've got to be funny. I don't want to just be like the.

[Andrew]

I mean, that's pretty funny.

[Josh]

We need to do a photo shoot in her underwear. Yeah.

[Lily]

Like Seinfeld.

[Josh]

Yeah, I'll do it.

[Lily]

Yeah. Oh, man. Speaking of doing it.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

You want a song?

[Andy]

I do. Woo.

[Josh]

Too bad.

[Andy]

I'm ready.

[Josh]

I wrote this one on my bike today. On my bike, on my cycle.

[Andy]

Motor inspiration on the bike.

[Josh]

I just was telling them something happens.

[Lily]

You know what's funny is it reminds me of my sister. When she was, I don't know, eight or nine, my dad bought her a dirt bike and she rode it for about a week.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Not really interested. But when she did ride it, she would just keep it in first gear and she would just be singing the whole time. Girl circling the yard.

[Andrew]

That's awesome. Wow.

[Lily]

She's like, hi, dad. These trees are beautiful.

[Josh]

That's great.

[Lily]

So I just imagine you just go around.

[Josh]

That's 100% what it is.

[Lily]

Yeah. What if God was one of us?

[Andrew]

Just a stranger on a bus.

[Lily]

All right, let's go. It's 2025 and you're supposed to be here Now I'm all alone in this atmosphere where did you go? I need to know you flew around the sun Next stop was here Suddenly you break apart and disappear where have you gone? Where have you gone? Cause rumors say that you just broke apart but what you really did was break my own heart.

[Josh]

For me I.

[Lily]

Am this a so called alien you were supposed to be my only friend and I miss you and I've never met you three Ey atlas I guess this is goodbye I'll think of you when I look in the sky as I sit and stay while you float.

[Josh]

Away.

[Lily]

Three I atlas.

[Josh]

You were supposed.

[Lily]

To be my only friend oh I miss you and I've never met yous I guess this is goodbye I'll think of you when I look in the sky as I sit and stay.

[Josh]

While you float away 3i atlas 3i atlas.

[Lily]

3I Atlas 3i Atlas 3i Atlas 3I.

[Josh]

Atlas 3i Atlas I guess this is goodbye.

[Andy]

Wow.

[Lily]

That was tremendous.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Woo. Huzzah. Huzzah. Huzzah.

[Andy]

I loved that.

[Andrew]

That was pretty good.

[Josh]

I kind of like it.

[Andrew]

That was pretty good.

[Josh]

I kind of like it, guys.

[Andy]

How Is it jam? Can I ask, is it three the letter I or three I's?

[Lily]

Three the letter I?

[Andy]

Why?

[Lily]

Interstellar.

[Andrew]

Interstellar.

[Andy]

He dipped.

[Lily]

We'll talk about it.

[Josh]

Talk about it.

[Lily]

Hold on, hold on, everyone. Everyone.

[Andrew]

Watched the lie.

[Josh]

We could dive into it right now.

[Lily]

Yeah, let's dive into it right now. Not. Are you joking me?

[Josh]

No. What?

[Lily]

What the heck is wrong with you? What the heck is wrong with you?

[Josh]

Nothing's wrong with me.

[Lily]

There's something wrong with you.

[Josh]

First of all, you know I've been going through a lot, and so for you to say that to me right now.

[Lily]

Shut up.

[Andrew]

Dad and dad are fighting.

[Andy]

Don't say that. That's a bad word.

[Josh]

Stop. The adults are talking.

[Andy]

Oh, my God.

[Lily]

Lily, zip it.

[Josh]

Hey, don't talk to her that way. Hey, Eddie, you don't talk to me that way. Stop it right now.

[Lily]

Andrew, you better zip it right now.

[Andy]

What's happening?

[Lily]

As you were saying, scary.

[Andy]

What was scary?

[Andrew]

Andrew?

[Lily]

Yelling. We have a question.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Lily]

It's the holiday season. Don't do it. Don't. I know you're wanting to do it. Guys, it's the holiday season, which means cheerfulness, gift giving, feast, friends and family. Today's question is something that I've wondered. I think you've wondered. You and you. I think everyone's wondered this. Today's question sent in by a viewer. Lily, is family important?

[Andy]

Yes.

[Josh]

On the holidays. On the freaking holidays. Oh, my gosh. I have a headache.

[Andrew]

I have a headache instantly.

[Lily]

Instantly.

[Andrew]

Have a headache.

[Josh]

What the heck?

[Lily]

Where the heck does this come from?

[Josh]

Ow. Golly, Lil, you.

[Lily]

Ow.

[Josh]

Don't.

[Lily]

Gosh, it hurts to open my eyes at this point.

[Josh]

Of all the times, Lil, you think family is important?

[Andy]

Yes, I do. Especially around the holidays.

[Lily]

They're important to blame for all the wrongdoing.

[Josh]

For everything that goes wrong.

[Lily]

For everything that goes wrong in your life, it's important to blame your family.

[Josh]

Where's the ownership? Where's the extreme ownership? Where's taking responsibility, Lil?

[Lily]

Taking responsibility, Lil, it's the holidays. Holidays mean forgiveness in Latin, I think.

[Josh]

But you can only 100%. You know Latin.

[Lily]

I do, yes. Oh, gosh, I wish this headache would go away. But it can't.

[Josh]

Can't. Not that after what she's done.

[Lily]

Not after what she's done today.

[Josh]

A week away from.

[Lily]

Why would you blame your family for everything goes wrong in your life. Stub your toe.

[Josh]

Ow.

[Lily]

Probably my dad's fault.

[Josh]

Yeah. Oh, I, I, I'm going to prison. Thanks, Uncle Joe.

[Andy]

I can't mean that.

[Josh]

Well, it's not what you mean. It's what you say that matters.

[Lily]

Dang. I don't know. I don't see why this is funny.

[Andy]

Stop.

[Lily]

Family. We're supposed to come together as a family.

[Josh]

100%.

[Lily]

We're supposed to forgive.

[Josh]

But we can't forgive unless you take ownership over what you've done. Lily.

[Lily]

Yes.

[Josh]

What you're choosing to do is pass the buck onto somebody else.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Accuse somebody else of your wrongdoing. Right. Instead of taking the responsibility upon your shoulders and asking for forgiveness so that they could give it to you.

[Lily]

Yes, exactly. Well, I guess you guys heard it here first. Lily, I'm not guilty of anything.

[Andrew]

I've never done anything wrong. I've never done anything wrong.

[Lily]

And I'm okay with blaming my family for everything.

[Andy]

Oh, my gosh.

[Lily]

This is my gosh.

[Andy]

My head.

[Josh]

Ow.

[Andy]

End it.

[Lily]

Welcome to the show. Did I say ninja?

[Andy]

I meant butterfly.

[Josh]

The butterfly is, no doubt one of God's most beautiful.

[Andrew]

Has to empty your mind.

[Josh]

You learn martial arts. Fuck. Ninjas, attack. The holiday season is here.

[Andrew]

Sure is, Andy.

[Josh]

The holiday season is here.

[Andrew]

Okay, just chill out. It's not that big of a deal.

[Josh]

It sounds like someone hasn't heard of Uncommon Goods.

[Andrew]

Uncommon Goods.

[Josh]

You are in for a treat, mister. Listen, Uncommon Goods takes the stress out of gifting with literally thousands of unique, high quality finds that you're not going to find anywhere else. Andrew.

[Andrew]

Really? Like. Like what kind of gifts?

[Josh]

I mean, how much time do you got? Listen, I was just on their website today and they've got festive freeze dried ice cream. I just saw that today. Custom pet sweaters. You could put your pet's face on a sweater. They'll send it to you. It's incredible. They also have puzzles. They have many projectors. They're literally. There's literally something for every single person. You've got to check it out.

[Andrew]

Whoa. They do have a lot. Dude, look at this basket. It's shaped like a dachshund.

[Josh]

That's adorable. And I know they're truly incredible. And you're supporting artists and small independent business owners. And most stuff is hand crafted in small batches. So the good stuff goes quick, y'. All.

[Andrew]

So don't wait. Cross those names off your list before the rush. To get 15% off your next gift, go to UncommonGoods.comNinjas.

[Josh]

That'S UncommonGoods.comNinjas for 15% off Uncommon Goods. We're all out of ordinary. Wink.

[Andrew]

Why'd you do that?

[Josh]

I was there. It's a Kind of like our tagline, like we're all out of ordinary because all their stuff is extraordinary.

[Andrew]

No, the wink, it's just, it's just.

[Josh]

Like a cool thing. So like I can like just connect with the audience a little bit.

[Andrew]

Unsettling. Okay. Okay. You good? Yeah, we're, we're filming. Are you good?

[Josh]

Do I look good? I'm hungry.

[Andrew]

Okay, just eat.

[Josh]

I can't just eat.

[Andrew]

Why not?

[Josh]

Okay, Andrew, let me spell it out for you. One, I brought lunch today, but it's the same chicken rice I've been eating for 375 days. Okay. And I'm tired of eating it. And two, I'm too busy to make something that's actually good, that's nutritious, that gives me all the things that I need that I actually want to eat. I'm too busy.

[Andrew]

Well, just try Tempo.

[Josh]

Oh, Tempo.

[Andrew]

Yes.

[Josh]

They're the place that delivers fresh chef crafted dietitian approved meals right to your door.

[Andrew]

Right? Darn right. Each meal is perfectly portioned and is ready in just two minutes.

[Josh]

Where do I get them?

[Andrew]

Go to the fridge. Just got some delivered this morning.

[Josh]

All right, you know what? I will wait. I'm just, I'm getting a message in right now. It says wait. For a limited time, Tempo is offering our listeners ninjas of butterflies. Listeners 60% off your first. That's a lot of percent.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And go to Tempo Meals.comninjas.

[Andrew]

That'S Tempo Meals.comNinjas.

[Josh]

Tempo Meals.comninjjas. rules and restrictions may apply. Thank you, Tempo. You sound like the gingerbread man.

[Andrew]

Yeah, I'm trying to.

[Lily]

You started sounding like it. So I just.

[Andy]

When you pictured your wife when you were like in high school, did you think, oh, I'm gonna talk to her this way on a public platform?

[Lily]

Yeah, that's those. If you go back to my journal when I wrote when I was like nine, future wife has to be gaslit.

[Josh]

Berate in front of millions. I have a question for you guys because we don't have our spouses here, but you guys are spouses. So I have question.

[Andy]

Oh gosh.

[Josh]

I know it's not question corner with Lily, but if you guys ever watch Sky High.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

You know the ray gun that like turns everyone into babies?

[Andy]

Yes.

[Josh]

Okay, so if your spouse was shot by this gun and turned into a tiny like 6 month old baby, would you a raise that baby yourself knowing. Okay, raise your baby yourself or give some that baby to someone else to raise?

[Andy]

Oh a.

[Josh]

If you choose to raise the baby, you're pretty Much saying you really can't have a relationship with that baby later on because it'd just be weird.

[Andy]

Correct.

[Josh]

Also, but B, you get to choose who raises that child. And are you going to try and have a relationship with that child later on when they grow up? But the age gap difference is going to be crazy as well.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

So what is. That's the dilemma. What do you do?

[Andy]

I would raise you, Josh, and just forego any romantic relationship in the future.

[Lily]

Thank you.

[Josh]

Thank you for that. What would you do?

[Lily]

Yeah, I'd probably raise you, too.

[Andy]

Oh.

[Lily]

Because you'd be good friends with Ada and Jane. I know.

[Andy]

It'd be kind of fun. And I. I would just love you so tenderly and then maybe go into, like, a monastic lifestyle.

[Andrew]

I would.

[Lily]

I would become a monk for sure.

[Andy]

You're just waiting for the opportunity, Honestly, at this point.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Wait, who does the shooting with the ray gun?

[Josh]

It would be me.

[Andrew]

Okay.

[Andy]

You evil mastermind.

[Lily]

That's what happens in the movie.

[Josh]

Yeah. Like, the evil guy, like, he. He is able to turn.

[Lily]

Like, can they turn back?

[Josh]

I can't remember how, like, it works, but, yeah, I think there's, like, a reversal thing on a weird movie. My goal would be, it's a great movie, dude. Like, do you know the premise?

[Lily]

No. It's like, literally just high school.

[Josh]

It's a high school, but just for, like, superheroes. Oh, it was so cool. It was like. It was like, when the commercials came out, I was like, this is going to be the coolest movie of all time.

[Andy]

I had it on dvd.

[Lily]

I said, a high school in the sky.

[Andy]

I mean, you're not wrong. It is in the.

[Josh]

It was.

[Lily]

Yeah, it was okay.

[Josh]

Yeah. Because I think, like, a flying bus took you there for people who can fly.

[Lily]

That's funny.

[Josh]

Yeah. I heard that question today and I was like. And then the top comment was like, this started a fight between me and my wife for 45 minutes.

[Andy]

So funny. What would you do, Andy? Would you raise Kelsey?

[Josh]

I think I know a ton of people that would. Yeah, I think I would. At, like, not to get. Not, like, the point of getting, like, too, like, serious. But, yeah, I think she'd, like. It'd be fun to be, like, give her, like, a fun childhood with a dad. She never really had that. A ton. So it's like, that would be cool. But also, I don't know who I could trust to raise my daughter, you know, like, not. She wouldn't even be technically my daughter. I guess she technically would. What if we raise her?

[Andy]

Raise my Wife.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Andy]

We could raise Kelsey.

[Josh]

Like I said, I don't know if.

[Andy]

I know anybody, but that's the question, though, too, is that they get old and it's like, you're assuming that they're going to want to be with you. And part of being a parent is wanting the best for them.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

And so it's like, I want you to meet somebody that's your age.

[Josh]

That would be a terrible movie of just, like, waiting that long. And just like, one day, possibly, if.

[Lily]

If I turn into a baby. Send me to Mount Athos to be raised by monks.

[Andy]

No, I'm gonna raise you.

[Josh]

What a wild life that would be.

[Andy]

Dude.

[Andrew]

I'd be trying to get shot by the same thing. I'd be like, let's start this over and see if we come back together.

[Josh]

Just commit.

[Andrew]

Wrong shells.

[Josh]

The court. Your dogs have to raise you now.

[Andy]

I know. I was going to say, at what point would somebody had to come discover.

[Andrew]

You guys about that there's enough Amazon stuff lined up in the queue. Someone would realize there's a screaming child and no one doing anything about it.

[Andy]

Yeah, true. I think about that all the time. This is part of, like, my postpartum anxiety. Can you still say that after your baby's three years, but, like, because you.

[Josh]

Have pregnant brain still, right?

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

What if something happens to me while I'm with the kids?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

And no one's there.

[Josh]

Life alert.

[Lily]

Oh, gosh.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

That's scary.

[Andy]

I know. I think about it all the time.

[Lily]

I do think. I do think about that. When you, like, leave for like, a night or something.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Like with your friends or whatever.

[Andy]

When I do that all the time.

[Lily]

Yeah. Three Eye Atlas.

[Josh]

Okay. Three Eye Atlas.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

The thing we've been waiting months for.

[Lily]

I looked it up. We talked about on the live yesterday, people. These scientists were like, it broke apart. It went around the sun and it goes boom. It exploded and someone's like. It imploded. No, it exploded because there's, like. Apparently they said there's like, oh, 16 parts now.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

But then I looked it up this morning. That's just speculation.

[Josh]

Is it? We wrote a song for nothing.

[Lily]

Yep. It was a good song, though.

[Andy]

It was good.

[Lily]

But, yeah. There's no clear evidence yet of when this comes out. There's no clear evidence that it broke apart. They're just saying that the anomalies of it, like shifting and stuff, look like it's exploded, but they can't confirm it.

[Josh]

Interesting. So it's just. Yeah. Still out there.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Weird.

[Andrew]

Them drones Them drones, those droids split apart and came back together. Dude.

[Josh]

Well, the thing is, you look at that. That one military video that we saw from the Navy guy.

[Lily]

Oh, yeah, it was.

[Josh]

It was shot by a missile and then it broke apart. But the other pieces kept moving with the object.

[Lily]

It's because it's a weather balloon.

[Josh]

Of course not, Mr. Green.

[Andy]

Did you watch it yesterday?

[Josh]

No.

[Andy]

Where's the video?

[Josh]

Oh, you haven't seen that? Yeah. You've seen it.

[Lily]

We did it because, remember I said.

[Josh]

That it gets shot by like a paint green.

[Lily]

That said it.

[Josh]

Yeah, I can't remember. One of the Greens.

[Andy]

It's definitely hankering.

[Lily]

Not John, he said that. That video. Because it was. It came on the congressional uap hearing that thing was flying and they shot it with a heat seeking. Yeah. Was it called UAP Tomahawk?

[Andrew]

I don't know.

[Lily]

Yeah, uap. And they shot it and it like. It like just like the missile like bounced off of it, but it kept on going. But like two pieces broke off, but it was like traveling with it.

[Josh]

Yeah. It didn't slow down. Like, it didn't like just like back away. This thing was moving at an incredible rate and it still got hit. And the pieces that broke off continued to keep moving.

[Lily]

And Hank Green was like, oh, it was just a weather balloon.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Lily]

And then. But I'm like, if it was a weather balloon, why was it classified footage?

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And also, why would they shoot it like that?

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Yeah. Hank Green's strange.

[Lily]

Was that.

[Josh]

He's something strange.

[Andy]

Hank Green is strange.

[Lily]

The Greens are strange. But I love them. They're smart. They're smart.

[Andy]

John's great.

[Josh]

John's great.

[Lily]

I really don't know the difference at this point.

[Josh]

John's the author. I mean, I think they're both authors technically. John's like more the.

[Andy]

He's more like anthropological. I think that John is very much more concerned with people and Hank is concerned with earth sciences. Yeah.

[Josh]

I didn't know John was a believer too. John's a believer.

[Lily]

Did you guys see that TikTok of that chick that was in the. It was like a museum in Europe or something. And she saw this painting and it was of a lady holding a platter with a man's head on it. She's like, whatever that man did, I'm in agreeance with the woman.

[Josh]

He deserved it.

[Lily]

And people were like, that's a painting of John the Baptist.

[Josh]

Jeez, so funny, dude. It's like you don't know the historical context shit.

[Lily]

You don't know what you're saying.

[Josh]

That's so funny.

[Lily]

Yeah. That'd be a good T shirt of John.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Just says happy Birthday.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

That would be insane. Like Old Renaissance Fair, like, kind of, you know.

[Lily]

You know, that's why apparently Jehovah's Witness don't celebrate birthdays.

[Josh]

Really?

[Lily]

Really is because.

[Andy]

Because of that.

[Lily]

Yeah. It's like the only written account of a birthday in scripture had to do with John the Head. John the Head. John the Baptist.

[Josh]

That's what they call him after.

[Andy]

What about the birth of Christ? In a celebration with gifts.

[Lily]

That's true.

[Josh]

I don't think they celebrate a lot, like, any holidays.

[Andy]

They don't celebrate any holiday.

[Josh]

Like, so that's like, it's a. Yeah. I was raised in the Jehovah Witness Church for, like, when I was a kid. Kid.

[Andy]

Really?

[Lily]

Really?

[Josh]

Yeah. Like whenever. Like until I was like, in first or second grade. I remember we went to the meetings is what they call them. They're like, we're going to the meeting and we. I. The only thing I remember from it is they would have, like, time with the adults and everything and they would ask, like, questions about the Bible and stuff like that or whatever they believe in. And at that time, and they would pass around microphones and I would, like, my grandma or aunt or whoever would whisper in my ear the answer. And so I could say it into the microphone. But like, yeah, I got family. That's Jehovah witnessed. That's crazy. Yeah, it was crazy.

[Andy]

So that was the origin of you wanting to speak publicly?

[Josh]

Basically, yeah. I was like, I deserve this. I need this in my life. I want this.

[Lily]

Speaking of wanting things.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

The last penny has been pinched.

[Josh]

No way.

[Lily]

We're done with the pennies as of yesterday when we record this. As of yesterday, the last penny was made.

[Josh]

No way.

[Lily]

They have stopped making the penny officially, like, forever. Forever.

[Josh]

Because it costs more to print them than actually, like, than it's worth, Right?

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Wow.

[Lily]

Which is a little scary. That just means the value of the dollars going down one tiny thing away. Yeah.

[Andy]

Wow.

[Josh]

That's crazy.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

That's super nuts. They don't do any half dollars anymore. Right.

[Lily]

So I think they're in circulation. You can still use.

[Josh]

That's what I'm saying.

[Lily]

But they are talking about for the 250th anniversary, doing a half dollar trump on it.

[Andrew]

Yeah. They. They do like, the half dollars for, like, occasions.

[Andy]

I see.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Australia does that too. It's actually pretty cool. They do like, like a holiday coin.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

And they make A limited amount. It's like real money. But this year apparently they did like bluey on their currency.

[Josh]

That's hilarious.

[Andrew]

I know, that's awesome.

[Andy]

That is insanely cool.

[Josh]

I think that would be really cool if we did that every four years. Like no matter who the president is, no matter what side you're on. I feel like it would be cool to commemorate each four years with the new president and some significant things about it. Like you can come up with really cool artistic ways to commemorate the past four years. And then that way it's literally a historical thing. But it's also currency. You can also spend it.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

It's the incentive. You do the like you said the past four years, not the new president. It's like when he's his term is done.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Good or bad, you commemorate the four years.

[Lily]

Yeah, just, it's just like has like a famous saying that they had on the coin.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Like Trump would be China.

[Josh]

China. And it's just fire. It's just fire.

[Lily]

Joe Biden's like where am I?

[Josh]

Gibberish all the way around. How much is this vanilla ice cream cone please?

[Andy]

Zola gave Jane a quarter that she found which was so sweet. And I saw in the back it didn't have, you know, the use of like states this one. I guess it was like a circulation where they did national parks.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

You've seen that.

[Lily]

Uh huh.

[Andy]

I was enamored.

[Lily]

Pretty cool.

[Andy]

Very cool.

[Josh]

Very neat.

[Lily]

It's crazy that the pennies going away though gone.

[Josh]

That's wild. Like if they're never going to print one ever again, it's going to be wonder like who's going to spend, who's going to have that last penny. That'd be kind of cool to know.

[Lily]

That has to be somewhat valuable or something big time.

[Josh]

The final one, you know, the guy is like yeah, some factory workers. That's so cool though.

[Lily]

That's stealing. That's theft. You can't do that.

[Josh]

Sure you can. As long as you don't get cut. Hey, hey, speaking of money, I spent $230 today.

[Andy]

On what?

[Josh]

On the coolest piece of cloth. And like it's almost like a statement. What you really like, what it's really doing. But I bought the Apple Pocket.

[Lily]

Did you actually?

[Andrew]

No.

[Josh]

Oh, it's not a chance.

[Lily]

I heard someone talking about the Apple Pocket. I have no idea what the Apple pocket is.

[Josh]

What do you think the apple pocket is? What would you think that Apple's spending like charging you $230 for and it's it's an accessory.

[Lily]

Is it like an EMF blocker?

[Andrew]

Uh huh.

[Josh]

Ooh, that'd be good. Yeah. What do you think?

[Andrew]

Apple Pocket?

[Josh]

Yeah. What's an Apple Pocket?

[Andrew]

Dude, I have no idea.

[Josh]

Would you be surprised if it's literally just a little sock pocket thing to carry your app, your Apple iPhone in? Because that's all it is.

[Andy]

Does it do anything?

[Josh]

It doesn't do a thing. It. So imagine a sock that's, you know, sewn at the top and then it has like a slit in the middle so you can like slide it over your shoulder or over your wrist. And then you could just put your phone into this thing.

[Lily]

What?

[Josh]

That's it.

[Lily]

Hold on.

[Andy]

Is it like waterproof?

[Andrew]

Is it like for.

[Josh]

No, it's nylon and I think silicone.

[Andrew]

Is it like a sleeve so you can wear it while running?

[Josh]

No, it's. They have a shorter version for 150 bucks that goes around, like you could tie around your purse, possibly you could tie it around your wrist and then they have a long version where it's like you can wear a crossbody or like a purse. But it's literally. It has like the top of the iPhone poking out. And it's just what a Apple pocket is what they're calling.

[Andrew]

Dude, flip that around.

[Josh]

Is that not the most nuts?

[Lily]

It looks like a sock.

[Josh]

It's a sock.

[Andy]

Dude, that is so silly.

[Lily]

It says, this is from Apple. It said, introducing iPhone pocket. A beautiful way to wear and carry iPhone.

[Josh]

$230. 230 bucks for the big one, 150 for the other.

[Lily]

Look at this. I just sent this. This is the craziest thing.

[Josh]

It's the, It's. What are. Who do they think they are?

[Lily]

They probably like, we are so popular that we could sell a sock for 200 bucks and they would buy it.

[Josh]

Every single person I see carrying one of these, I'm punching in the armpit.

[Andy]

This has to be like a niche want. Like, people are like, gosh, I really just wish I could throw my iPhone over my shoulder or something. And they're like, here you go.

[Josh]

Yeah, I don't know. I don't, I don't understand it. But you guys, do you guys remember back in the day, Steve Jobs actually dropped socks? Apple socks.

[Lily]

No, no.

[Josh]

Yeah. It was five pack for $30. A five pack for $30 just in a box. Which is compared to this price is insane. Yeah, makes total sense. But it was literally just. It was like a sock material that you could just put your thing in, but it was Literally this big. And it just. It fits your iPhone. That's perfect. That makes sense. Like a sleeve to cover. To protect the screen, protect the camera. This is obnoxious.

[Andrew]

That's crazy.

[Josh]

It's crazy.

[Andrew]

It's also an invitation to get your phone yeeted.

[Josh]

Yeah. It's the most obvious thing of, like, hey, I haven't. I have a lot of money, and I'm very. A very expensive phone in my pocket.

[Andrew]

Yeah. This neon thing that's half tied to me. Just snatch it.

[Josh]

I am so easy to pickpocket.

[Andy]

I know. I loved the. The podcast with Joe and Elon, and everybody's like, at least you hear a buzzing on mine.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Joe was like, are you ever gonna do phones? And Elon's like, I don't think I'm gonna do a thing. But I just think about how, like, revolutionary that would be because he's so dedicated to quality. I mean, like, I don't really like the design of the Teslas. I don't think they look that cool. But it's like somebody needs to challenge Apple and put them, set them straight, because they're monopolizing tech right now as far as, like, phones and stuff like that.

[Josh]

And you say, sam, a lot of people would say, Samsung's doing that. I mean, a lot of people are saying, like, you know, like, every iPhone update happens, and they're like, we've had this forever. Google's doing a phone.

[Andy]

Interesting.

[Josh]

Samsung's doing phones. And so it's like. I mean, I don't know. I think Apple's just, like, made their way inside the door that, like, no matter what we do, it's gonna be great.

[Andy]

To me, I'm addicted to the layout aesthetic.

[Josh]

Yeah, for sure. It's an aesthetic thing for me, too, because I went. I went one year having a Samsung phone, and I'll never go back. Yeah, it was like 2016. I was like, oh, this is.

[Andrew]

They were smart with their. The integrations in the App Store and their os. Like, nothing can touch that. Like, you could have. Like, the cameras are better on Android phones. They really are. But, like, try to get that into an Adobe app and, you know, going back and forth between all the platforms, by the time you're, like, on the third app, you're like, give me my iPhone back.

[Josh]

Comments are going to go crazy.

[Lily]

Speaking of Samsung.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

I saw this video. I don't know if this is true or not, but, you know those little Christmas tin cookies?

[Josh]

Yeah, the blue ones.

[Lily]

Shortbread.

[Andy]

Yeah, the blue Danish ones.

[Lily]

Apparently, they're all made. Not in Danish land.

[Andy]

China.

[Lily]

India.

[Andy]

India.

[Lily]

And I saw videos of them making these shortbread cookies.

[Josh]

Was it delicious and delightful?

[Andy]

Really?

[Josh]

Oh, no, it's like.

[Andrew]

Yeah, it's like, the worst.

[Lily]

Stomping on the dough with their feet.

[Josh]

Ah.

[Andy]

We've eaten, like, eight tens of those.

[Lily]

And I don't know. I don't know if it's just the tin that's made in India or if they splice these videos of these cookies being made.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

In India. Oh, my gosh.

[Josh]

Wait, what are they stomping on?

[Lily]

Here's the dough.

[Josh]

The dough.

[Andrew]

Like, yeah, the unhygienic. But here's. Here's my thought, because I got worked up on this too. And this. I'm just. I'm allergic to him, so I don't have a dog in the fight. This is what I think might be happening. That'd be a really good way to take something from the west and resell it there. So if they're getting a hold of tins and they're making their own stuff to fill them with. Hold on.

[Lily]

Let me send this.

[Andy]

Or it's propaganda from the competition.

[Andrew]

Who's the competition?

[Andy]

Other shortbread cookies, like, keepers. Pepperidge Farm.

[Josh]

Pepperidge Farm.

[Lily]

All right, just watch the beginning of this video.

[Josh]

Dude, this is crazy. I'm glad I don't eat these.

[Andy]

Oh, my gosh. Josh and I eat two tins of these.

[Josh]

Oh, no.

[Andy]

That's propaganda. That has to be. Not real. Where did you send it? Okay.

[Josh]

Is it Instagram? Okay.

[Andrew]

Oh, yeah.

[Lily]

Text.

[Josh]

Okay. The music.

[Andrew]

Oh, geez. Did you not catch the.

[Andy]

Oh, my gosh. Like, the dirty water.

[Lily]

There's oil.

[Andy]

Oh, my gosh.

[Lily]

The rat running in there.

[Andy]

This is propaganda.

[Lily]

It might be, but on the tens, it says made in India.

[Andy]

Oh, gosh.

[Josh]

Oh, it does say it, huh?

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Interesting.

[Andy]

That was AI the rat.

[Lily]

No, I love that.

[Josh]

Anything. Anything that Lily just is scared of.

[Andy]

Go watch that part again, because the rat does not move in a natural way.

[Lily]

Do rats never move in a natural way?

[Josh]

Dude, I'm telling you, we used to have rats.

[Lily]

Oh, we've all had them.

[Josh]

No, I'm saying, like, as pets.

[Lily]

Oh, gosh. Yeah, I remember telling me that. That's awful.

[Josh]

They were the sweetest things in the world, though.

[Andrew]

Did you catch the pants in the beginning of that clip?

[Lily]

No.

[Andrew]

Go look at the. We gonna have to do.

[Josh]

What is it?

[Andrew]

With some blurring. Dude, look at this.

[Andy]

Oh, my gosh.

[Andrew]

He's.

[Andy]

They're gradual. Sp.

[Josh]

That's hilarious.

[Andy]

Oh, I'm horrified.

[Andrew]

There's like some long johns under there. But that is. Yeah.

[Andy]

For listeners know that we are not anti them because they're made in India. We're anti them because they were made in a rat factory.

[Lily]

And with their feet.

[Josh]

With their feet. Hey, but you know what?

[Andy]

Sure.

[Josh]

That's called making with love, though. You know, that's the ingredient.

[Lily]

All right. Yeah.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

I've never gotten sick from these cookies.

[Josh]

No, and you won't forever.

[Andy]

We have literally, like, every Christmas, we eat two tins of these, and I.

[Lily]

Still plan on getting them 100%.

[Andy]

We will not be.

[Josh]

You have to.

[Lily]

I'll get them.

[Andy]

You have to get Pepperidge Farm.

[Lily]

No Pepper. They're probably made in, like, another weird factory.

[Andy]

Let's make our own.

[Josh]

No, it's impossible.

[Lily]

Speaking of making your own do that, you guys saw that flying car that came out recently?

[Andrew]

No.

[Josh]

Are you talking about.

[Andy]

Is this one Elon was talking about?

[Lily]

No, this is another company. They. It's basically like, a cockpit that has drone propellers on it, and they're releasing it to the public like, it's a real flying car, and you don't have to have your pilot's license for it.

[Josh]

Interesting. What do they look like?

[Andy]

I'm anti this notion of, like, let science run amok before regulations are in place. Like, why don't we work together with the government to allow the. Like, hey, by the way, we're making flying cars. Could you make some kind of air traffic control system or. You know what I'm saying?

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And then our taxes go up.

[Andy]

Oh, my God.

[Andrew]

I mean, they can't even do air traffic control for what we have now.

[Andy]

True.

[Josh]

This is a insane, bro.

[Lily]

190, 000 flying car.

[Andy]

Look at this.

[Josh]

That's how much it cost.

[Lily]

Pivotal is what it's called. Yeah. 190, 000, easy.

[Josh]

Whoa. Whoa. Yeah.

[Andrew]

That's a. That's a quadcopter. Right?

[Josh]

But it's like, in case.

[Lily]

I mean, they call it a flying car.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Says it weighs less than a motorcycle. Like, £300. What?

[Andrew]

Sounds safe.

[Lily]

You don't need a pilot's license. But I'm pretty sure I saw a video, like. Because it's like, well, what if it crashes? Or if the propellers cut out, it has a parachute that shoots out and you just float back down.

[Josh]

Holy moly, dude. What kind of world are we living in right now?

[Lily]

I know. And that's why I'm like, I wonder if Elon knew about this. He's like, I'm gonna make. They're coming out with this And I'm gonna come out with an even better.

[Josh]

Flying car if this is some like, like no name company.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Imagine what he's doing. Yeah, it's gonna be wild. What if it's like space technology or the opposite?

[Andy]

Elon's been working on this for forever. And then he heard these guys and he announces it on Joe Rogan. And these guys been working on this and they're like, oh, we gotta launch it right now before Elon does.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

This race.

[Josh]

Did you. You didn't watch the Live yesterday?

[Andy]

I watched like two minutes. I saw the part where Andrew joked about interracial marriage. And they, in the comments, they're like, oh, my gosh, Andrew's racist. Not getting that he's in an interracial marriage.

[Josh]

We made it. Josh made a joke about like, you know, like we were speculating on like, what this thing that Elon was teasing. Like, what could it be? He's like, what if it was a time machine? And then we joked about how like, cloning machine. Yeah. Like, well, the time machine thing was funny because we were like, we were talking about if like you. If Elon was like, literally from the future, like, that was his. Like, we looked back at an old Joe Rogan episode and he like showed up or something and he mentioned something and he's like, oh, this is all tying together now.

[Andy]

Oh, my God.

[Josh]

So he'd been lurking on it this whole time.

[Lily]

You never know.

[Josh]

You never know.

[Lily]

That would be crazy if you were the richest man on earth.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

You could probably figure out how to make a time machine.

[Josh]

If he can't, then who can?

[Andy]

The tech is in there. He's going to rely on AI. I like what he said because he was very, you know, in the beginning, he's very concerned about AI safety. And then he's like, I had this epiphany, epiphany, epiphany, epiphany that I realized that I could not be a contender unless I was in the mix. And so he's like, as a result, I'm gonna make Grok the most conscientious of the AIs. Everybody who's listening to this episode, go listen that episode because it was really good. He talks about, like, how all these other AIs are like, lying to people and.

[Lily]

Yeah, but his GROK is weird though.

[Andy]

Yeah. I don't like all the, all the sisual stuff.

[Josh]

Yeah. It's. It's creepy.

[Andy]

It's.

[Lily]

Yeah, yeah.

[Josh]

And because. But the chat GPT is doing that now. They're like, what's his face that runs Chat. GPT Open AI. Same.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

He's like, yeah, we're gonna release, you know, certain restrictions for people, for adults, because, like, adults should be able to use however, you know, like AI stuff for adult uses. And it's like, okay, but should they.

[Lily]

No.

[Josh]

Should they, though? This isn't like a right that we need to have like that. Like that we're going to get really mad about. It's like you could just not do it. You're doing this for profit. Like, it's a kind of.

[Andrew]

It's.

[Josh]

It's not going to stay with adults. It's going to incorporate into our society, into the kids and the culture. And it's like, this is wrong and it's a. It's beginning. It's the signs of such a downfall that's happening.

[Andy]

Well, I mean, it's already happening. And that's. That's what's scary. It's like Elon was saying that it's his goal to make the most, like, morally conscious AI.

[Lily]

Well, he said, he said that he's like truth seeking. Truth seeking. And it's like, well, what is your truth?

[Andy]

Yeah, no, exactly.

[Josh]

That's. That's what we have to always question.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

People like, who's making this stuff? Like, oh, it's not a bias, but it's like the person who made it is biased. Everyone's biased.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

So it's like we. Nothing. It's just coming from. And that's what goes back to our haunted cosmos talk. It's like 100. It. It. Satan infiltrates our own hearts and our own spirits and we create things. And so in that way Satan can use whatever outlet we have.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Well, to say that truth is not relative is. You would need an implicit, like an implication of faith. So like, there's no way for them to do that unless there is a singular, like, accepted faith.

[Lily]

Right.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

So like that.

[Lily]

Exactly.

[Andrew]

Dangerous.

[Lily]

Yes. So it's like he keeps. He kept on saying, like, truth seeking. It needs. Like that's. His whole thing is like his AI is truth seeking, not validating this or that. And it's like, but what is your truth?

[Andrew]

Which that combats. That combats free speech, which he's supposedly completely for. Because I, I have a. I believe there's a singular truth.

[Lily]

Yeah. His whole thing is like. Because he gave the comparison. It was like open AI or something.

[Andy]

No, it was Genesis. Google's Genesis.

[Lily]

Okay. They asked to do like the. Created an image of the Founding Fathers and it was like all women yeah, it was like.

[Andy]

It was. Yeah, like a mixed race by. It was a diverse group of women.

[Lily]

Yeah. He's like. And that's not true. So like his only truth seeking. Truth seeking. So it's like, is your truth. Is it just factual stuff?

[Josh]

Yeah, because that's different.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Well, not only that, he also. They prompted Genesis with way humanity in its existence by their race and gender. And white men were at the lowest. They were worth, like something like one twentieth of what a black female was weighed as worth with Genesis, which is crazy. And then so he prompted Grok the same. And Grock said, all people are created equally.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Scary.

[Josh]

Yeah. Yeah. And that's the thing. You don't know when it's being manipulative.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Like, I don't know.

[Andrew]

And we've always said, like, history and truth are written by the winners. Right. Like, that's a commonly taught thing. But if all these models are using existing documents, existing texts. So like, the database by which all of this draws from is already flawed.

[Josh]

Well, that's.

[Andy]

Yeah, that's what he's saying.

[Josh]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, with the different of. Between facts and truth, those really aren't the same in our society.

[Lily]

Right.

[Josh]

Here's the fact, you know, we were founded here. This is how it happened. It's like, okay, but what's the truth, though?

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

So, yeah, there's. There's a huge difference. And.

[Andrew]

And it eliminates people, like half the time to find out that truth. You got to go talk to like a oral tradition. Like, I would love to go talk to natives on a reservation. I'd be like, how do y' all tell this story? It might not be online. Yeah, like, how do you find that?

[Andy]

That was his biggest argument though, too, is that. And why he went into politics was like, culturally, as a nation, we're going in this direction where we're making this our truth. And so while these AIs are pulling from their creators. Right. And their truths are also pulling from the Internet. And the Internet is full of, like, in factual things.

[Josh]

Sure.

[Andy]

You know, and so as a culture, Elon is arguing. We need to shift. To me, I think Elon is way more optimistic than probably I am. He talked about AI in its greatest rendition or whatever it is like, the greatest outcome that we could have would be, like, fixed incomes for everybody. AI takes all over all these jobs and teaches us these things and makes health care good. And we all get to. There will be a purposelessness epidemic because people were made to work by God. You know, and so there will be purposelessness, especially in men. And then we could just figure it out and make hobbies and stuff like that. And I'm like, there's no way that's happening.

[Lily]

No, there's no way. We are in greed. It's at the forefront of everything. Also, Elon is the richest man on Earth. And, like, he's going to continue to do stuff to keep that power.

[Josh]

For sure.

[Lily]

He's a competitive dude, and he's, like, not going to be like, he's going to. I feel like he would sacrifice people's feelings and humanity for the sake of continuing to grow.

[Josh]

Yeah, I would. Yeah, he's already doing that.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

So that's the. Yeah, that's the thing. It's like, it's. Are we seeing the beginning of, like, a world domination?

[Andy]

He believes we're living a simulation. That's his religion.

[Lily]

This is my thought on that, though. Yeah, he. He's pretty. He talked to Joe Rogan a lot about. About the. He said that there's a. There is a probability that we're living in a simulation. I'm like, that's. He's probably saying that because could you imagine waking up and you're like, I'm the richest man on Earth. I own a space company where I send people to space. I own an electric car company. I somehow influence the US Politics.

[Josh]

My best friend's the president.

[Andy]

Not anymore.

[Lily]

I would be like, yeah, I'm probably in a simulation. Yeah.

[Andy]

Yeah. And he's like, he's probably the one of the only people in the world that has as much agency as he does. Because he's like, oh, this is a problem. I'll fix it. And it's like, everybody. There's a billion. There's 7 billion other people in the world going, I'm gonna live the way that I do with this thing. And he's like, let me fix it. You know? And so that would be confusing to anybody, right?

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

The God complex that he's gotta have, though, to be like, I'll fix it. It's like, hey, man, there. There are things beyond you. And that. That's not just a call out to Elon. That's like. I think with this entire AI conversation, all of these people who think that AI is going to. Their thoughts are the solve.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Humanity is broken. That's why we need Jesus. I don't think there is a fix.

[Lily]

Well, I just watched this video on. Where was. It was a channel. It was Big think and freethink. YouTube. But they were highlighting this guy or he was talking. His name is Peter Layden. He's a longtime tech expert and thought leader on the future. He used to work for Wired magazine of basically predicting technology of the advancement and stuff. Very smart man, incredibly smart. But then this video he broke down we've talked about before, but the 80 year cycle. And he laid it out of technology, 80 year cycles. And so he gave the scenario of from 1787 to 1812, which was like the early Industrial revolution. That was right after America got independence and there's this big boom in technology and steam engine and all that stuff. Maybe not steam engine, no, that was probably later. But then it was 1865 to 1890, so another 80 plus years or whatever, give or take. That was right after the Civil War ended and that was the beginning of the Gilded Age. So like that's when more technology started like this flourishing. That's like where the plane was made. Like the Wright brothers and all this stuff. And then 1945 to 1970, right after World War II, which is called the great post war boom in the height of capitalism. That's like when we saw where we're kind of at today, where all the industry and factories and stuff like that technologies skyrocketed. And since 1970, he's saying 2025 is actually the beginning of this new cycle of technology. He said it'll probably last from 2025 to 2050. And he thinks it's going to be a crazy development in AI, clean energy and bioengineering. And he broke it down and he's like, he's like, it's, it's. We're. Because we're getting into this world now where especially in the US where like the old tradition of capitalism is not really working right. Starting to be outweighed.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Lily]

And there's a lot of people protesting like the, the gap between poor and wealthy is separating even more and more. So capitalism in its traditional sense is not working. He said, I think with AI, with all this stuff, it's going to flip it to where. And he said he's a predictor of future technology. His resume is pretty spot on. But he's like, he believes within the years 2025 to 2050 at one point we will have a global governance.

[Andy]

Oh boy.

[Lily]

Primarily ran by AI.

[Andy]

Oh my gosh. Jesus, come back. Don't let this happen.

[Lily]

No, this guy's not a bl. He wasn't like a prophecy kind of thing. He's just like the way things are moving because he just observes everything and, like, what do you call it? Tracks?

[Josh]

Just patterns.

[Lily]

Patterns, yeah. Very good at tracking patterns. He's like, yeah, I. I do see a global governance system to where it's not like individual countries, but it's more of a overarching one world government system ran by AI.

[Andrew]

I mean, even if it was individual countries who all have systems that integrate, like, you think about, like, something like your driver's license from the United States can work as a passport. Like, that's not a big leap.

[Andy]

That sounds efficient. You know what I mean?

[Andrew]

Right.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Well, I mean, they have the passport card that's used as IDs now.

[Andrew]

Yeah, I didn't even know that.

[Josh]

Yeah, it's literally just the size of a driver's license, but it's. It's a passport.

[Andrew]

And now it'll be on your phone, which is face id. Yeah.

[Lily]

Well, I mean, we got. We got a couple states in the US where you have digital ID now, where it's just on your phone.

[Josh]

It's crazy. Crazy.

[Andy]

Oh, my gosh.

[Lily]

But this video, you guys, all of you guys should watch this video, because it's really, really good.

[Josh]

It reminds me of just the Bilderberg meeting video that Y Files did.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

That whole breakdown of, like, the future of what it could look like and everything. And it's like this just seems more realistic every single day.

[Lily]

I know.

[Andy]

Yeah. It just makes me concerned. Okay, so, like, what we were talking about with what Genesis was programmed to understand about, like, white men being ranked the least in importance, which I agree with. And then the narrative that we're seeing about Christians and, you know, kind of like our people group in our. At least our country, what it's looking like, I'm just like, is going to try to kill us all.

[Josh]

Yeah, well, I was watching. I mean, even. I was like, just in passing, we had Dune on Yesterday due to. And there's that line in there, like, I think you, like, she's like. She's arguing with the. The lady in black. Florence Pugh's character is arguing with the lady in black. And she's like a Benedict. Oh, yeah, the Bene Gesserit. The old lady looks at her and she says something about, you know, you underestimate these people. And she's like, I think you underestimate faith. And I was like, oh, snap. Because it's like talking about, like, you know, if you come down harder, they will rebel even harder. Like, they will hold on to their faith even more.

[Lily]

So I think that's probably a.

[Andrew]

A little.

[Lily]

Or not a little. That's a thing that these tech industry guys are not.

[Josh]

Are just factoring in.

[Lily]

Factoring in for sure, people's faith.

[Josh]

Yeah, but that's, that's when I look at Elon, I just. When he talks about, you know, like we're in a simulation. Your theory about how he's just blown away by his own life, I truly do believe it's just such a self absorption. You say God complex, but I think it's just this guy's so driven. His life is surrounded by just fixing problems, being the best. You say no to me, guess what? I will fight until I prove you wrong. That type of attitude. The dude I don't think understands true everyday life and real people connection. And so I think he's just so removed from it. He has no idea how to like what our problems are and what our perspectives are. And I think he just wants to create things. And it's like, that'd be fine if you were just like, I'm just an inventor. I just want to find these amazing things.

[Andrew]

And he comes off as very disconnected from. I'm sure he deals with opposition like we know he deals with opposition, but it becomes very different when opposition becomes physical. Like I doubt that's an actual part of his existence. And so like the inflated reality is he's physically invincible.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

And that's not like a cryptic, like not encouraging anything. But like when you break people, like look through history and like as people revolt, like, you know, let them eat cake and it goes south. You know what I mean? Like stuff like that can happen.

[Lily]

Speaking of revolting eating cake, I got some Eastern European stories that are crazy.

[Josh]

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[Andy]

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[Josh]

Brrr. Ooh, I can feel it.

[Lily]

Josh, you. Are you happy when you're cold?

[Josh]

I am. Because it feels like the Christmas breeze. Yeah. And I just know that in these.

[Lily]

Holiday seasons, I just want to share the love and give gifts to everyone. Everyone. Everyone.

[Josh]

Even the volunteers at my church.

[Lily]

Even.

[Josh]

Even the people that are closest to me that are within my group or people I know. And I just feel like I want to give them something really, really special. Special. Something that's meaningful.

[Lily]

Well, where can you find something like that, Andy?

[Josh]

Oh, silly Josh, all you go to, all you got to do is go to sundaycool.com so you can order custom merch. So you have any ideas that you like.

[Lily]

Oh, man, this would look really cool.

[Josh]

In a hat or a sticker or a shirt. You can literally create something that brings this year all to an end and says here, and you hand it over to your friend, you say, this is my love to you through custom apparel. And if you don't have an idea, guess what? We have thousands and thousands of templates and customizable things that you can create for your friend. Wow.

[Lily]

Where should they go to find all these magical things?

[Josh]

Andy, go to sundaycool.com and we can handle all your stuff today. And if you just want little tiny trinkets or gifts that are already pre made, you go to sundaycoolswag.com Ah, we've got cups, we've got backpacks, we've got hats and stickers and stuff that's so neat. It's the best.

[Lily]

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[Josh]

It really is, Josh.

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[Lily]

Oh, man. Pee pee, Pee pee poo poo. Pee pee poo poo.

[Andy]

Did you. Have you guys ever heard of. Let me pull him up. He's a janitor in Boston. Jimmy Cash is his name. And he calls himself. He has a Boston accent. The janitor was stamina. And he said that he came in and he sent his booger green. He's at a preschool. He's a janitor at a preschool. Booger green, beanbag chair of the affirmation room. And he said, I'm wearing the colors of the enemy peepee poo poo.

[Josh]

This guy sounds awesome.

[Andy]

But I'm the janitor with stamina. I sent it to Josh. Anyway.

[Lily]

Anyways. Did you hear that? It's a question quarter. Question quarter.

[Josh]

Question quarter with Lily with questions of Fresh out of mind.

[Andy]

Okay. Would you rather be born.

[Josh]

I love that. This is just a Would you rather. Segment, though.

[Andy]

I know, because you guys respond best to that.

[Josh]

Sometimes we just need a curveball, though.

[Andy]

You need a one or a two.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Would you rather be born a human and then every year become 1% more bird or be born a bird and every year become 1% more human? You can fly when you're at 35% bird.

[Josh]

Oh.

[Andy]

So the question is, you want to spend majority of your life flying or your golden years?

[Lily]

I feel like you should do bird into human because I feel like it'd.

[Josh]

Be really cool because then you'd be a massive bird when you're, like 15 and you just. Yeah, you'd be a massive bird.

[Lily]

But if you're a human going to a bird, it's like, yeah, it's like, guys, next year, you tell your kids, next year I'm gone. I'm a bird. I'm a fully a bird.

[Josh]

I gotta leave the nest.

[Andy]

But you'll. I guess you'll, like, enter humanhood with.

[Lily]

So much wisdom as a bird going from bird to human. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because if you go from human to bird, I think you'll die pretty quick.

[Josh]

There's a high chance of, like, death.

[Lily]

Yeah, for sure.

[Josh]

Yeah. I would be born as a human.

[Andrew]

But what's like the. What's the.

[Josh]

That's what I'm saying. But I thought as a. If you're born as a bird, you're likely to die.

[Lily]

But I'm saying if you're born as a human and become a bird. What do you know about being a bird?

[Josh]

1%. Every year though, like, so when you're 15, you're 15% bird, what point do you grow beak?

[Andy]

Oh, I didn't come up with that.

[Josh]

Let's figure it out.

[Andy]

So you can fly at 35%. 35%. So when you're 35, you can start flying.

[Josh]

So you would probably get a beak around 25.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

That's tough. That's a tough look.

[Andrew]

If you're a human, though, you can plan for becoming the bird.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Yeah. You learn. You're learning a lot.

[Andy]

You basically have a human childhood and a bird.

[Andrew]

Best years of your life.

[Lily]

You really want to eat worms all the time. You don't know why.

[Josh]

Well, you would know why.

[Andy]

Old people eat, like, grueling.

[Lily]

You get told at your cancin.

[Josh]

You remember your Concedia?

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

It was beautiful.

[Lily]

It was amazing.

[Josh]

The dance was.

[Lily]

We shared amazing.

[Josh]

Incredible.

[Lily]

Insane. Yeah. Your father tells you. You don't know who your father is. It's like every. My father, my grandfather, they all have.

[Josh]

Just left for some reason. There's always cranes hanging outside your house and, like, very, like, important moments in your life, though. Your graduation, like, there's like, just a sandhill crane just standing outside. You're like, who is that?

[Andy]

That'd be cool. You could be a crane.

[Lily]

Your 13th birthday, your mom and grandmother sit you down and say, I know you've been feeling some changes on worms. What changes?

[Josh]

Well, what changes?

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Picking at your wings.

[Lily]

That's where they tell you that you will be a bird one day. You're starting to turn into a bird.

[Josh]

I'm gonna tell my girls that's what puberty is. It's when you turn into a bird.

[Andy]

We told Jane that we found her under a rock in China.

[Lily]

She loves it, though.

[Josh]

It's a good origin story, dude.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Lily]

It's our bedtime story that I say to them sometimes. Like, Ada was born on a pirate ship.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

And then we sailed to China. And I lifted up this big rock, this big crystal rock.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

And underneath the rock was Baby Jane. And they're like.

[Andy]

So we're having a cat birthday. Right. And I just thought while I was driving around, I'm like, we need to have everybody wear purple. Purr, purr. Purple. I think that when I first asked this question, I would have been human to bird. But I like what you're saying about.

[Lily]

Bird to person, because then you could, like, you could fly around and, like, observe cultures.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

You could know the woods really well and how to survive in the wilderness. As soon as you become a human, you're just like, I got this.

[Josh]

You're not doing a lot of studying, though. Besides, just, like, observing, that is an argument for, you know, like, reading a book. You're not reading a book.

[Andy]

Yeah, I agree.

[Lily]

So zoo.

[Josh]

I mean, I don't know how strong your talons are.

[Andy]

You guys can make a strong. You guys can make an argument that you maintain human sentience the entire time.

[Lily]

Nice.

[Andy]

I'll allow it.

[Lily]

So even as a human to bird, you still got the human brain.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

You can't talk anymore.

[Andy]

No. But you have the instincts of a bird, though.

[Lily]

Okay.

[Andrew]

Gray parrot, though.

[Josh]

I just, like, run around my room. I can't find the door. My mom has to come in with a broom and just pat me. Hey, calm down.

[Andrew]

Andy.

[Lily]

Calm down.

[Josh]

Just in the top corner. No wings. That you just do.

[Andrew]

This looks like a naked.

[Josh]

I don't know what I'm doing. I don't know what I'm doing.

[Andy]

What bird would you be?

[Josh]

Hawk.

[Andrew]

Cool owl. Oh, boy.

[Josh]

I. What's that?

[Lily]

Or a falcon. What are the. What are the. Those Mongol. The. Those giant. Is it like the. They're like eagles. Like a golden eagle or something?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

The wingspans are like seven feet or something.

[Josh]

Yeah. Crazy. I think it'd be a pelican. I think a pelican would be dope.

[Andy]

Cool, because you used to live by the ocean.

[Josh]

By the ocean. You're always, like, gliding. You get to dive into the water and stuff.

[Lily]

Better question, what do you think each one of us, what birds would we be?

[Andy]

Oh, my gosh.

[Lily]

I could see you as a dove. A pigeon.

[Andy]

I know. I was gonna say pigeon because you get the best snacks.

[Josh]

Just a fat pigeon in New York. Hey, would it kill you to drop some breadcrumbs?

[Andy]

You could be an English pigeon. Jane and I went and fed birds.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

This week at the Ibis. Or the what? The what those are called the lily.

[Lily]

Would for sure be a parrot.

[Josh]

The white ibis is the one with the long.

[Andy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Josh]

They're the best.

[Andy]

We were feeding ibises, and then a bunch of crows came along. And a bunch of, like, sparrows, I think, came. It was beautiful. And they were, like, sitting in our laps. Dude, they were all around us. Jane and I were enamored. But then this. This English woman comes up and she says, oh, these are so beautiful, in her accent. And she's like, I just take a picture for my son and all we got is stinking pigeons back home.

[Andrew]

Dang.

[Andy]

To be an English pigeon would be cool.

[Josh]

What a dream.

[Lily]

Andrew. Here's what that Beat.

[Josh]

Andrew has real. It's gotta show us right now.

[Andrew]

Right now.

[Josh]

Chirp, chirp.

[Andrew]

Oh, I missed the button.

[Josh]

Do it again.

[Andrew]

This. This just got me.

[Lily]

All right, we ready? 3.

[Andy]

I don't have it.

[Andrew]

Okay.

[Andy]

All right, now I got it.

[Lily]

3, 2, 1.

[Andrew]

Little.

[Andy]

This is scary.

[Lily]

Little lower. Now feel around.

[Josh]

Move around a little bit. Wow.

[Andrew]

No, no.

[Josh]

What? Gary, no.

[Andrew]

No.

[Andy]

Stop. Scary.

[Lily]

Feel around.

[Andrew]

Touch it.

[Josh]

It won't move.

[Andy]

I don't want to.

[Andrew]

So it's a little girl trying to feel something in a box. Trying to see what it is. Touch it.

[Lily]

Move around. Put your hands.

[Andy]

I did. Touch it.

[Josh]

Huh?

[Andy]

I did.

[Josh]

What do you think it is?

[Andy]

I don't know.

[Josh]

What did it feel like?

[Andy]

I think it's a hand.

[Josh]

What is it? You were right. That is so good. What a good reaction.

[Andrew]

Dude, it's the guts. Literal scream. I got one. I got one more for you.

[Josh]

That's so good. Oh, dude, if we're doing pimple dude.

[Andrew]

Just one. I'm not going to become the pimple guy, but just one. Love these.

[Andy]

I had to watch it for music or.

[Andrew]

No. Or sound off.

[Lily]

Okay. Sound off.

[Andy]

I. To watch. Far away.

[Lily]

Two, one, go.

[Andy]

Oh.

[Andrew]

Wait, look.

[Lily]

Oh, my God.

[Josh]

Oh, my gosh. I'm literally gonna throw up.

[Lily]

Dude, that is awful.

[Andy]

Oh, my gosh.

[Josh]

I have to think about something else. Baseball. Holy moly.

[Andy]

Ada asked me this morning. She's like, mom, remember when I used to play baseball and I was like, no. Oh, you never have. Okay. Has your gag reflex fixed yet?

[Josh]

Oh, I'm resetting.

[Andy]

Okay. The first time I heard Andy throw up for the first time.

[Josh]

Oh, that was the first time you've ever heard me throw up?

[Andy]

Yes. In the woods.

[Josh]

I thought it was so quiet, too. I was really trying to be quiet.

[Andrew]

Really?

[Andy]

It sounded like Sasquatch in the woods. Literally.

[Lily]

Yeah, because we're in the. We're in Franklin. And Andy wasn't feeling too hot, and he went to the woods, and we had a fire. Your whole family's around the fire?

[Andrew]

Yep.

[Lily]

And Lily comes out and she's like, where's. Where's Andy? And Kelsey's like, I think he's kind of sick. He's in the woods, and all of a sudden you hear.

[Andy]

It literally scream.

[Andrew]

It's like.

[Lily]

Phase your family.

[Josh]

Oh, no. Because they're so used to it. Oh, man.

[Lily]

But it was echoing in the woods.

[Josh]

It's crazy.

[Andrew]

Crazy.

[Andy]

I mean. And we were in the woods, and there was, like. There were houses, like, kind of around. They were kind of sparse, but you could hear dogs Going because they were scared of whatever they were hearing. Oh my gosh.

[Josh]

And then we came back and we told horror stories.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Scary stories around the fire.

[Andy]

It was wonderful.

[Josh]

You gotta bounce back.

[Lily]

You got a little tear from your gagging.

[Josh]

I don't doubt it. Dude. I'm literally like it ruined. That was rough, Andrew. I don't like that those at all, bro.

[Andy]

Wait, tell. Tell them what Chain did at the cabin.

[Lily]

Oh, they're sleeping in the bed with us. And Jane woke up and she rolled on top of a. Anda goes hi. And Jane literally went like this.

[Josh]

For no reason.

[Lily]

So just cuz I guess her breath st. Like not pretending at all. Just a full seeing a two year old gag.

[Andrew]

I don't know why.

[Lily]

It's really cute.

[Andy]

Ada's breath is stinky. See, I need to take her to the dentist and see what's up. Yeah.

[Lily]

Stinking of stinking, stinking breath.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Have you guys ever heard of Agafia Lukova?

[Josh]

Agafia Lakoya Lakova. Lacroix.

[Lily]

Close. Agafia Lakova.

[Josh]

No, never heard of her.

[Lily]

She's probably never heard you either because that's not. She's lived in the Siberian wilderness since the 1940s.

[Andy]

Cool.

[Josh]

Still this day.

[Lily]

To this day.

[Josh]

That's crazy.

[Lily]

Crazy story.

[Josh]

All right.

[Lily]

I saw this video on Vice where they're highlighting this lady and so.

[Andrew]

Yeah, it was.

[Lily]

So apparently in the 1930s, her father, Karp Lakov, which I found like he's Lakov and she's Lakova. And I asked.

[Josh]

It's the female version.

[Lily]

It is in Russia. Apparently the last names they change with male to female.

[Josh]

Cool.

[Lily]

I don't know if that's all accurate. So I'd be like hoopa Coopera. Coopera.

[Josh]

Is it like for only like when they. The father doesn't have a namesake or is it.

[Lily]

No, it's anything.

[Josh]

Yeah, it's even when they get married.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Weird. Cool.

[Lily]

Apparently. But Karp lakov in the 1930s was the Soviet Revolution. You know, it was before that, but it was in the midst of it. But they were part of what's called the Old Believers Orthodox sect, which I looked into that and it was like a split between Old Believers and current Russian Orthodox over some stuff. But the Old Believers, just basically the Orthodox Church we know at this point, were heavily persecuted by the Soviets. And apparently Karp's brother, who was a believer as well, was shot and killed for his faith. And so Karp Lakov decided to take his wife And I believe two of their children 200 miles into the Siberian wilderness to just escape persecution.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Dang.

[Lily]

And they had, like, nothing with them, basically. They brought stuff, but, like, they didn't have, like, a firearm. I thought I had, like, a thing of what they hadn't. Didn't have. Oh, that was not. Give me a second. Yeah. Well, they. They just. Basically, they had nothing. Going out to the Siberian wilderness. And then Agatha, Agafia and another sibling were born in the wilderness in the middle of nowhere. They said that their. Where they set up camp was 160 kilometers from any civilization.

[Josh]

And they're born in the wilderness.

[Lily]

Born in the wilderness.

[Josh]

Golly.

[Lily]

And she lived in the wilderness without human contact. This whole family lived without human contact until the 1970s. 1978.

[Andy]

Wow.

[Lily]

When it just so happened these geologists were flying over because they were looking for, like, iron ore or something like that.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

And they saw, like, a cultivated land and, like, farm and like, a couple little huts, like, what's that? And so they went down. They trekked back there, and they said it's. It's pretty much impossible to get to this place except through using a helicopter.

[Andy]

Wow.

[Lily]

Like, you can walk, but you can't walk in the winter because they say the winters in this part of Siberia, it gets to, like, on average, negative 40 degrees Fahrenheit.

[Josh]

How'd they do it? Dude.

[Lily]

Yeah. But what's sad is, well, before the geologists came, the mother. There was a really bad winter, and they had, like, basically no food, and the mother basically starved herself to death so that the children could eat.

[Josh]

Wow.

[Lily]

And what's even more sad is when these. These geologists came. Since this family had been living in isolation now for 40 years.

[Josh]

Don't say it.

[Lily]

They got diseases from this geologist, and three of the four siblings died.

[Andy]

Oh, no.

[Josh]

As a dad, like, with.

[Lily]

Within a week of each other.

[Josh]

How ticked would you be as the dad?

[Lily]

Oh, yeah.

[Josh]

So you see him and say, stay away.

[Lily]

But this. This whole video was highlighting Agafia, who's still alive. And now apparently one of these geologists lives out there too. But he's a really strange man. And they, like, go back and forth. It's really weird dynamics. He has, like, one leg, and it's like a. He has, like a wooden peg leg and weird stuff.

[Andy]

That doesn't make him weird. It's just that he's.

[Lily]

No, but he's done weird stuff to Agafia, like, said weird stuff and, like, manipulates her. But she's lived there her whole life.

[Andy]

That's so sad.

[Josh]

So just taking advantage.

[Andrew]

Beat that.

[Lily]

Guy up. Yeah. It's weird. And she, like. She takes care of him because he's older than she is, and it's, like, hard for him to go get water because of his piglet.

[Josh]

She's just.

[Lily]

He's just a burden, pretty much.

[Josh]

Golly.

[Andy]

And he. And he's a geologist that came and discovered Agafia and is now exploiting her.

[Lily]

It seems like it. Yeah. But you could be listening.

[Josh]

Careful.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Stop doing that.

[Lily]

But, yeah, so they. I mean, they learn to grow their own food. They hand make all their clothes with, like, hemp and, like. I mean, so this. This girl Agafia, all she's known is the wilderness.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

For her whole life. And I think she's, like, in her 80s now, maybe, or 70s or 80. Yeah. But what I thought was crazy was I was watching this and there's just, like, some little parts where she was talking and she. Oh, they. This is another crazy thing. They didn't know anything about the outside world, obviously.

[Josh]

Sure. Yeah.

[Lily]

They didn't know about the moon landing. They didn't know that the USSR had collapsed.

[Andy]

Wow.

[Lily]

Nothing. Yeah, they just been living in isolation. But she talked about that while they were filming, there was a plane flying overhead that was spraying chemtrails. And she says, I hate these planes because every time they come, it either rains or snows. And I know that there's chemicals in them because it makes me feel sick.

[Andy]

Oh, my gosh.

[Lily]

This lady who's been living in the Siberian wilderness was commenting on a chemtrail. She said, those clouds that these planes put out make it rain or snow. And it makes me and the animals feel sick.

[Josh]

Even she's smarter than most.

[Andy]

It's because we're being so disillusioned because we're literally being poisoned every single day. We don't even notice.

[Lily]

Yeah, it's crazy. But in the interview, too, she had, like, this old, old Bible that she said has been handed down for her family for, like, 600 years or something that she was reading out of. Yeah, she reads it every day. And she, like, started talking about, like, the Antichrist. And she's like, from news that I'm getting from people that are coming to see me, she's like, I feel like the end is actually near and that the Antichrist is coming soon.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

I'm like, this is crazy for this.

[Josh]

Lady to be like, yeah, I trust her.

[Lily]

I know.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

I feel like I trust her with more than most people. That's awesome.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

What a crazy life, dude.

[Lily]

So Agafia Lakova, dude.

[Josh]

There needs to be a full documentary on this lady.

[Andy]

I know, very cool.

[Lily]

But yeah, she's super self sufficient, obviously, but. And she's like, yeah, I'll never. At this point. I would never leave. I think she. They said that they've brought her to like the city. City, whatever. Close to them like once or twice. But besides that, she just lives out there.

[Andy]

Well, how old is she now?

[Lily]

She's probably in her 70s or 80s. Well, she was born in 1944, I believe.

[Josh]

She's 130 years old.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

That's so sad about her siblings.

[Lily]

I know, yeah.

[Josh]

That makes me mad.

[Lily]

But I thought that was a crazy, crazy. Is she in good health relatively?

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah. For 80 year old.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

That's super cool. I mean, I just like, just imagine what they're eating and how they like their daily life look like. Yeah, it's wild.

[Lily]

Yeah. She does have a gun at this. They got guns now.

[Josh]

Good.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Wolves or geologists?

[Lily]

Yeah, dude, wolves.

[Josh]

That's why I got a gun.

[Lily]

She said the bears are out there, are insane. Like the biggest, meanest bears and wolves, dude.

[Andy]

Speaking of wolves, dude, Frankenstein was awesome.

[Andrew]

It was.

[Andy]

Continue, sir.

[Lily]

That's it.

[Josh]

It's pretty good. That was pretty good.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

That's awesome. I can't wait to. I'll have to watch that video. That's fascinating to me.

[Andrew]

Blows my mind that people can just get out in places like that and survive. Especially like when they first. When the dude first fled. It's like, we're just gonna figure this out. That's insane.

[Lily]

Could you imagine putting that on your family? Like.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Going 200 miles into the middle of nowhere. No one knew you're out there for 40, over 40 years.

[Andy]

Well, you're making a choice on the outcome of your children too. You're saying you guys will never marry or experience, but we have each other and at least we'll survive because of our faith, you know, and then just not knowing how quickly things have progressed on the outside world. I mean, they're probably thinking about their lives and how long they've been living under oppression. And then 40 years passed and they're like, no way is it better. But really everything was changing every five years.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

You know, and that was something that Elon said. He said reality is accelerating.

[Lily]

Yeah, I like that line. Reality is accelerating.

[Andy]

It just feels like everything is going faster and faster and faster.

[Josh]

Yeah. Comparative. Yeah. Especially past years. It just feels like it is changing a lot quicker than normal. And like even just with this AI stuff, man, it's Blowing my mind.

[Lily]

Yeah. I got another Eastern European story.

[Josh]

Hit me.

[Lily]

This is a terrible thing.

[Andy]

Oh, gosh.

[Andrew]

Terrible.

[Lily]

I just saw it because it just came out in 2025, these allegations. It's in. Forgive me for my pronunciation. Sarajevo in Bosnia, which is the capital city of Bosnia in Herzogovina.

[Josh]

Yeah, you nailed it.

[Lily]

Perfect. There's, like, a civil war that broke out in Bosnia. Like the Bosnian wars, you know.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

1992 to 1996. And Sarah Jevo was, like, the heart of where it was happening. But these allegations just came out that in 2025. So this year, these allegations came out that talked about sniper tourists. So apparently, in this capital city, there was this epidemic of civilians just getting. There's this one place in the city called Sniper Alley.

[Josh]

No.

[Lily]

Where these people are just. These civilians, innocent civilians are just getting got.

[Josh]

Holy moly. When was this?

[Lily]

In the 90s.

[Josh]

Gosh, dude.

[Lily]

And what was happening, these allegations is all these European countries, these wealthy people, were flying to Bosnia and paying upwards of a hundred thousand dollars to have a human safari.

[Andy]

Oh, my God.

[Lily]

In Bosnia. To where they would just snipe innocent people. And it would. This is terrible, but it would, like, cost extra for, like.

[Andy]

No, no, don't say it.

[Andrew]

And stuff.

[Andy]

Oh, my gosh.

[Josh]

Dear Lord.

[Lily]

And so it's under investigation right now of the people that were involved in this. But. Yeah. And what are rich people doing? Isn't that crazy?

[Josh]

How bored are they?

[Andrew]

How evil, dude? It's. It's. Do you see Tom Segura talking about it with. They. He was somewhere near Somalia, and they were like. They were like, do you. Would you want to go. And, like, apparently you can pay to go into, like, pirate waters and to be the gunner. And, like, you can pay money to just, like, basically bait pirates. And then when they come in, you know, hog hunting in Texas. It's terrible, but, like, Pete, like, people are evil, dude.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

That's crazy. I mean, that's stuff you watch in movies.

[Lily]

Yeah. But they're saying people from, like, England, Spain, these, like, gun enthusiasts, rich people, would literally fly to Bosnia, pay the soldiers, and they would post them up, and they would go to town.

[Josh]

Dear Lord, man.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

That's wild.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Hate that.

[Josh]

You wonder how many things like, that have happened, though. Like, what's actually happening? Yeah, like. Yeah, like. Yeah, just, like, different type of operations that are happening in different areas that are very similar. Just for the fun, you know.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Of just spending money, getting to do that, being so rich that you don't care anymore.

[Lily]

It's Terrible.

[Andy]

Can you imagine?

[Josh]

No, that's crazy, dude.

[Lily]

Yeah. Do you want a little bit of a lighter story?

[Josh]

Oh, I want heavier, dude.

[Lily]

All right. Have you guys heard of the Pit from Hell?

[Andy]

Yes.

[Josh]

That's what I needed. The Pit from Hell.

[Lily]

This is crazy. All right. This is from the Y files. I saw this on one of his recent videos, and I watched him, like, I've never heard this in my life.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Lily]

So I looked into a little bit more. It's crazy.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Lily]

So it is the again, Eastern European.

[Josh]

Just don't travel there.

[Lily]

Yeah. But the Huska. Huska Castle, I believe it's h O U S K A Houska. Houseke.

[Josh]

Housekeeper.

[Lily]

Houseket. Let's do a houseker. That sounds cool. Houseke Castle, which was built in the 13th century, so, like the 1200 era. And it was built by the Ottoman at that time or the king. It was at this region was Bohemia at this point. But now it's like, where's Prague?

[Andy]

Oh, gosh. Is it near, like, Czechoslovakia?

[Lily]

Anyways, this. This castle is about. They say it's 47 kilometers north of Prague. And at this point or at this time, the 12th century, 13th century, it was Bohemia. But this castle is very strange. It offers no logistical advantage at all.

[Andrew]

Like, it's strange where it's located.

[Lily]

Yeah. It's off the beaten path. There's, like. It's in a really harsh climate.

[Josh]

But if you look at the school zones are incredible.

[Lily]

Great.

[Josh]

Zoning's in. Great.

[Lily]

But if you look at this castle, the fortification is not facing the outside. It's facing the inside of the castle to a courtyard.

[Andrew]

I've seen this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Josh]

What does that mean?

[Andrew]

The pit.

[Josh]

Yeah, but, like, what you said. What do you, like. What did you just say?

[Lily]

Like, the fortification. So, like, you know, they, like, build, like, walls and, like, slots for, like, shooting arrows and stuff on the outside. They're all facing the inside.

[Josh]

Got it. Okay.

[Lily]

But this pit, apparently this pit goes back to way, way, like ancient traditions, where it's this giant, like, granite slab, I believe. But in this slide, people always reported, like, hearing noises and creatures coming out of this pit.

[Andy]

Oh, my gosh.

[Lily]

And, like, terrorizing villages and stuff like that. Apparently it got so bad where they built this castle around it and basically set up all these monks and stuff inside this castle. And at one point, it became like a prison to where they would, like, send. They would have give these prisoners an option, like death penalty or lowered into the pit. And stories go that these prisoners were lowered into the pit. And when they came out, they had aged, they told these things of like, there's creatures down there. There's like fire, there's like. They literally described it as hell.

[Josh]

What?

[Lily]

Like there's, there's demons living in this pit.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

They heard screams coming out of the pit quite frequently too. That was the other thing. Like. Yeah, something was getting got in the pit.

[Lily]

Yeah. And so they, these monks and stuff, they like, they would just, they were set up around there to combat this pit. These demons that were coming out of this pit.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

And then eventually they just decided to seal it up.

[Josh]

Sure.

[Lily]

Which maybe you probably should have done that off the get go.

[Josh]

Yeah. You got to experiment a little bit.

[Lily]

But it wasn't until the Nazis came around that they took over this area and they took over this castle. And they'd heard because we talked about the Nazis and their love for the occult.

[Andy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Lily]

And they're like, let's see what's in this pit. And so they reopened the pit and sure enough, the same occurrences, creatures were coming out. They described like giant frog looking men and like just the creepiest stuff. And what they would do, they would also lower prisoners down into this pit and they would come up and they had aged like they said the age, like 40 to 50 years, like just completely grayed. Screaming, losing their minds. And then after World War II, when the Nazis were driven out, when they had to surrender, they sealed it. Sealed it. So apparently they poured in all this concrete and it's like. So since the Nazis, it has been sealed permanently.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

And so like modern day no one's tested what's in this pit.

[Josh]

Who owns it now?

[Lily]

I don't know.

[Josh]

Interesting.

[Lily]

I didn't look that into that.

[Josh]

Hey, let's do it. Let's do a Gofundme on Patreon.

[Andy]

Open the pit.

[Josh]

Let's open the pit, guys. Open the pit. Come on, dip me in.

[Andy]

No, thank you.

[Lily]

Why Files? His episode was crazy on it though because he also did like about like the something codex, which is this like ancient religious manuscript and this giant book and it talks about how to combat different spells. And at one point there's this giant page of a painting of Satan and they said that his theory was that they're congruent with each other like the pit and this book being written.

[Josh]

Interesting. So maybe it's something that opened up the pit.

[Andrew]

Maybe what the monks were transcribing. There's like a journal of.

[Lily]

Yeah. Or how to combat these demons that were coming out of this pit. Because there's ways of Combating different demons inside this giant codex book.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Makes you wonder where it came from, though, the book. Like, who dug the pit?

[Lily]

Oh, yeah. I don't know.

[Josh]

Like, where did the pit. How did that get found?

[Lily]

Well, they say that they found the pit.

[Josh]

Yeah, that's what I'm. Yeah, but like, who really first found it? Or how was it created?

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Or was it always. Don't you remember those guys who were drilling and they lowered. Yeah, the screams. I wonder if that's in the same.

[Lily]

Area that was in Russia.

[Josh]

That'd be interesting.

[Lily]

Yeah, that was weird. You remember us talking about that?

[Andy]

Yeah, I do.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

I want to know these mysteries.

[Andrew]

Yeah, one day, dude, I got a mystery. Oh, you ready?

[Josh]

Mystery mystery.

[Lily]

Does it involve a pit from hell?

[Andrew]

It involves a cryptid. For. For me, as a hunter, these stories freak me out more than anything. Like, you hunt?

[Lily]

Yep.

[Andrew]

Oh, yep, I do. I gotta add it one time every episode. Yeah. This is. This is Terrifying is one of the scariest stories. It's told by this guy, Lon Strickler, and he's the guy who interviewed the man who had the encounter. The guy's name is James west, but most people consider that a pseudonym. So I guess the guy didn't want to be known. But he tells the story. So he's coyote hunting. He's. In the winter. He is in Green County, Pennsylvania. He's hunting. And you know when you call in a coyote, you do a rabbit call. They can like do little diaphragm calls and stuff. And he's been there. Apparently coyotes are just like, run over his hunting property. And he's finally. He's got a, like, thermal scope. He's going to take care of the problem. And he's been doing it like a few nights in a row. And as soon as he starts that rabbit call, I mean, just the field is flooded. He goes out there, he starts making the call, and nothing, like, nothing comes out. He's been out there for an hour in the snow and is just like, well, this is weird. And he's about to pack it up and then he hears something behind him. And it's not like. Like if a deer or coyotes. It's. It's kind of like a quick movement and then they take a few steps and then they pause. And he describes the steps. Remember, this is like deep snow as deliberate and like consistent sequential steps. Just crunch, crunch, like something big enough to really be compacting the snow. And he listens to it circle behind him and he's like, okay. Like, I've waited long enough trying to maintain his cover. And he has like one of the red spotlights that doesn't like disrupt the woods. And he whips around and he turns the light on the thing and there's this seven foot creature that drops from 10ft away, drops to all fours and like, like postures like what am I doing next? And he describes this thing like the thing with a red light. He described glowing red or glowing yellow eyes. Almost as if the eyes were like projecting into the light. Freaked him out. And then he's just frozen. He's like, you know he has a gun, but he's like, I mean it's 10ft away, like what do I do next? And the thing starts to crawl toward him on all fours. And as it takes the first step, he said what he noticed was the length of the front arm. And the fact that this thing which had long hair, pulled back ears, long snout, like a dog, dark. I think I already said dark fur. But this thing had human hands with long claws. And when he saw that, that's when he said nope. And he had a 12 gauge loaded up, pulled the trigger. And underneath the red light he was using just a puff of like if you watched an animal like hunting, there's like a puff of mist that happens when you hit it and immediately did it. And he said it let out a yell, but he described it as almost like a long bark.

[Lily]

Like say any throwing up. Yeah, it's just.

[Andrew]

Oh yeah. But he. So, so there's this vapor and so he actually begins to. This dude's crazy. He begins to blood trail what he just shot. And he follows it for like probably like 50 yards I think is what it was like just like to the edge of where he was hunting. And he was like, okay, this is, I'm, I'm dipping. I'm not doing this alone. Comes back the next day with one of his buddies from hunting camp. And the tracks are still there and there's still a blood trail. And he describes the tracks as dog like. And so it had gone back upright when it ran after being shot, but on twos. On twos but having like a dog print. And then he gets, they start weaving and it's bleeding the whole time. There's blood. So you're like, I'm, I'm about to walk up on whatever this creature is and put out of my mind everything that freaked me out. Well, it gets to a clearing and the tracks appear as though they've like some like it loads up, presses down like it jumped. But It's a wide open field. No more tracks, no more blood portal. Just gone middle of the field. Weird. Dude doesn't hunt anymore.

[Andy]

Yeah, I wouldn't either.

[Lily]

Vegan.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

That's terrifying.

[Andrew]

That's scary.

[Josh]

So that's like dog man, right?

[Lily]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, dude. Oof.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Seven feet.

[Lily]

Do you think it was like a portal kind of thing?

[Andrew]

I. I really don't know. I mean, if it went. I mean, I don't know anything about the dog man. And, like, but if a human can become a dog, could it not become something else too? And it's like, all right, I'm gonna try to shape shift into something else and dip.

[Josh]

What if he was born as a bird?

[Lily]

Hey, possibly. That's crazy.

[Josh]

That's.

[Lily]

Where was it? Pennsylvania.

[Andrew]

Pennsylvania. Greene County.

[Josh]

What year?

[Andrew]

Oh, shoot. I don't know the year.

[Josh]

Tell me the story again. Just keep asking all the details.

[Andrew]

Does the whole thing go freaking.

[Lily]

That's crazy.

[Andy]

That was scary, dude.

[Andrew]

Yeah. 10ft away and it dropped. And then as it was crawling, he shot as it began to, like, stand back up on twos and he was like, no, I just want to see.

[Lily]

Some proof of this stuff.

[Josh]

I know, man.

[Lily]

I don't doubt his story at all. I just want to see it.

[Andrew]

I.

[Andy]

So I do not.

[Andrew]

Everyone's saying that the dude who runs the, like, Cryptid, like, you know, one of these online sites. I forget the name of the site I was reading on, but it's like, that dude does stand advantage to a good story. And he's like, no, I interviewed a guy who wants to remain anonymous and could have just invented the story, but there is a ton of these stories from all over.

[Lily]

So I wouldn't remain anonymous. I would be like. I would be telling everyone.

[Josh]

Yeah, but then you get just cast as this weirdo.

[Lily]

Whatever.

[Andy]

I think we're there.

[Josh]

Yeah, that's true. That's. We've already built that repertoire.

[Andy]

Have you. Have you ever seen the scary movie the Ritual, Yo?

[Josh]

Yes.

[Andy]

About the Nordic Cryptid.

[Josh]

Dude, you actually would kind of like this. It's like a scary movie, but it's like.

[Andy]

It's your vibe smack out of me.

[Josh]

Oh, it's good.

[Andy]

It scared me so bad.

[Josh]

So these guys, four friends, always go on this annual, like, hiking trip. And I don't know where it's at.

[Andy]

It's in. It's in Scandinavia.

[Josh]

Scandinavia? Like, really?

[Andy]

Probably Norway.

[Lily]

Oh, that's the one you were watching the other day?

[Josh]

No, no, I haven't watched that one on a while.

[Lily]

I swear. You're telling me about it.

[Josh]

I might have been telling you, but I don't know.

[Lily]

But you thought you were watching it.

[Josh]

No. These. And one of the things.

[Lily]

A bachelor party or something. Or like, they're like. It's like they do it yearly, right?

[Josh]

Yeah. These. The one friend dies, and so the three friends.

[Lily]

That's right.

[Josh]

Continue to go out.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And just like, try to keep up the tradition and stuff like that. But they run upon this just, like, weird. Normally large, almost like skinwalker type creature, but it's, like, massive. But it's the way it's shot. It's so subtle and so dark and.

[Andy]

Oh, he hangs people on trees like ornaments. Like, impales them onto limbs.

[Josh]

Wow. It's. But the way, dude, the way it's shot, like, the. Like those dark. Like those long, like, four shots where you're like, do I see?

[Andy]

Do I see?

[Andrew]

I don't. Yeah. I don't know, dude.

[Josh]

So good.

[Andrew]

I've quit using a light in the woods because I haven't killed the deer. And walking in without a light at like 3:30am Stop. Them palmetto bushes start to look like things like. No chance.

[Lily]

I'm watching, like, your peripherals, like, super hard. And I were like, was that.

[Andrew]

Oh, it's unsettling, dude. I got within 5ft of the buck. And it's like, awesome to say now, but when he, like, I jumped him. And when you hear something me to you jump through a palmetto when it's dead quiet. I mean, you crap your pants. Yeah, that's why I never got it.

[Lily]

Scariest hide and seek ever.

[Josh]

Speaking of movies, I saw Begonia with Emma Stone. Well, I haven't heard when she shaves her head.

[Andy]

Oh, what'd you think?

[Josh]

Oh, it was awesome.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Super fun.

[Andy]

Let's watch it this weekend.

[Josh]

Super fun.

[Lily]

This is in theaters?

[Andy]

Oh, dang it.

[Josh]

Me and you should go watch the new Predator movie.

[Lily]

I really want to see the new Predator.

[Andy]

I like Predator, too.

[Lily]

All right, Come on.

[Josh]

Let's all go.

[Andy]

I also want to see Die My Love.

[Josh]

Yeah, I've heard that's pretty good, too.

[Andy]

I guess it's a postpartum psychosis story.

[Lily]

Is that with Jennifer Lawrence?

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Have you seen them do the lie detector test yet?

[Lily]

It was pretty funny.

[Josh]

Dude, he's so funny.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Oh, yeah, he's hilarious.

[Lily]

Call himself Gen Z. I'm Gen Z. Yeah.

[Josh]

How old are you? Doesn't matter.

[Lily]

Where is he from? Like, England? Like London?

[Josh]

South African.

[Lily]

Speaking of London, have you ever heard of the Crystal Palace?

[Josh]

The Crystal Palace?

[Lily]

Ooh.

[Josh]

Josh, don't don't hide things from me. I don't like it. I don't like when you do that.

[Lily]

Talk about the Tartarians, man. Yeah, actually, no, it was last week we were talking about the Expositions Expeditions exhibit. What do you call them?

[Andy]

Exhibitions.

[Lily]

Exhibitions.

[Andrew]

What did I say? I said that. Right, right.

[Andy]

You said expositions like exposing or Expo Exhibit.

[Lily]

Exhibition, yeah. Anyways, they had one in London and they built this thing called the Crystal Palace. And let me show you this thing.

[Josh]

When they built it, like the soccer.

[Lily]

Team, I believe it was the 1800s, late 1800s, but it was 900.

[Andrew]

Square.

[Lily]

Feet, almost a million square feet.

[Josh]

Insane.

[Lily]

Look at this thing. I just sent it.

[Josh]

It's kind of like my house.

[Andy]

Yeah, a lot like your house. That's insane. Where is this? London?

[Lily]

It was in London.

[Andy]

Wow.

[Lily]

What?

[Andy]

Is this real or was this just drawn plans?

[Lily]

No, this is real. It was real. It was built in the late 1800s for ex exhibition and it was in this one part of London. And then they. After the exhibition, they tore it down and then relocated it somewhere. And then it remained standing until I believe 1912, when it burnt down.

[Andy]

Oh, gosh.

[Josh]

What? This thing's huge.

[Lily]

But they tore it down and relocated it.

[Andrew]

Like.

[Lily]

What?

[Josh]

How do you.

[Lily]

They also built it, I think they said in like two years or something. No, less than that.

[Josh]

Bro, that thing is huge.

[Andrew]

Yeah, two years. 1852 to 1854.

[Lily]

Okay. When did it burn down? Is it 1912?

[Andrew]

I'm not sure. I was looking up. That is why the soccer team in the Premier League is Crystal Palace.

[Lily]

Oh, isn't that insane though? Talk about like old technology and like, being able to build stuff, like, with.

[Josh]

The intention of knowing you're gonna take it apart and read like. Like it's not a permanent structure. Yeah, that's crazy.

[Lily]

They said within that building they had 14,000 exhibitors for this exhibition.

[Josh]

Bro, how do you even do this?

[Lily]

It's nuts, isn't it?

[Josh]

I mean, how many levels is that? Like seven stories. That's crazy, dude.

[Lily]

But yeah, that inside picture, like the garden and stuff like. I mean, it's beautiful. 1936, it was when it burnt down.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Wow.

[Andy]

We are so irresponsible with fire down all the time.

[Josh]

I mean, they used to blow things up to excavate instead of like. I mean, like to actually. Instead of like digging and like being careful and stuff like that. It's like they used to just dynamite stuff.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Which is wild. Which. Imagine how many things that we've like broken and like destroyed by Doing that.

[Lily]

I know.

[Josh]

That's crazy, dude.

[Lily]

Crazy, right?

[Josh]

Why don't we have stuff. I mean, I know we have stuff like that nowadays, but it's nowhere near as quick, nowhere near as oppressive and beautiful.

[Lily]

Was it the eyesore of I drive?

[Josh]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Lily]

Or is it I drive there?

[Andy]

Yeah, yeah. Or i4 Orlando eyesore is what they call it. And I don't know, I think they're doing something with it now.

[Lily]

They say that. I swear they say that every year.

[Andy]

I know.

[Lily]

It's this build. Those who don't know, it's this building in Orlando and they started building it like what, 20 years ago, literally when.

[Andy]

I was a child in my car seat.

[Lily]

I remember seeing it and it's never been completed.

[Josh]

Yeah. What's even the shape of it? I don't even. Like, it's like a. Like a little like a tween fingernail. Yeah, yeah, it's. That's all it is.

[Lily]

But it's supposed to be a Christian Broadcasting Network building at first, and then they like lost funding and then it's just bent and then I. People have like come and like, oh, we're gonna fix it up.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Nothing.

[Josh]

Let's buy it.

[Lily]

Let's do it. I'll be our new studio.

[Andy]

That would be so funny. Took over the Orlando eyesore. The lore.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Dude, that's crazy.

[Lily]

It is crazy.

[Josh]

I am fascinated. There's gotta be more stories like that then I know it's all the same time period.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

It was during this whole like early 1900s, this late 1800s, early 1900s. These exhibitions were all over the world. And that's where the whole tartarian thing comes into play. People were like, sure. It wasn't exhibitions? Yeah, it was old tartarian technology. Yeah. And then the mud flood happened.

[Andy]

The mud flood?

[Lily]

You dirty mud flood. Oh yeah. Anyway, speaking of mud floods, though, it's.

[Josh]

About that time, isn't it?

[Lily]

We got more stuff we're going to talk about on our patreon episode, ninjas. Patreon.com forward/ninjas or butterflies. Or on our YouTube membership, people.

[Josh]

Yes. Get early access to full episodes. Get extra episodes. You get discounts on merch, behind the scenes footage. All that you could possibly ever want.

[Lily]

All that you want, all that you need. I got some stories about some desert fathers I read last night.

[Josh]

Cool, fine. We're gonna talk also about some emails that got leaked. Uh oh, oopsie, Mr. Trump.

[Lily]

Uh. Oh, yeah. So go check that out guys. And please, we haven't asked in a while. I don't Think, but review us. Give us five stars.

[Josh]

It was like two weeks ago when we asked.

[Lily]

Oh, yeah. Well, if you could review us. It really helps us.

[Josh]

Yes.

[Lily]

Spotify took down one of our episodes a couple weeks ago.

[Josh]

We got it back up.

[Lily]

Got it back up. But it was a headache.

[Josh]

Let's keep blowing up this podcast, y'.

[Lily]

All.

[Josh]

Yeah, we got, we got some big plans for the future.

[Lily]

Some big plans.

[Josh]

Big plans for you guys to build this content, make it even tougher and even better.

[Lily]

Yes. And I will say this, which we said on our Patreon last week, but we are looking for either a contract editor for our short form content that can work remotely. That can work remotely, or a full time editor in studio. But you have to live here. You have to. Not in the studio. You don't have to live in the studio, but you have to live close enough to drive to the studio. So if you're interested in working literally with the podcast. Yeah.

[Josh]

In Sunday. Cool. Beside us in this room.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

You can find the job [e-mail] Sunday cool.com.

[Josh]

Yeah, we'd really appreciate it. We love it.

[Lily]

Yeah. We're trying to grow, we're trying to grow this people because it's really just me, Andy and Andrew that do everything. And then of course Lily who does all things things.

[Andy]

It's gonna say, what the heck.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Lily]

But it's just us guys and we want to start growing this thing, start growing our team. So if you're interested enjoying the Ninja crew as an editor or if you.

[Josh]

Know someone that does get really good.

[Lily]

Editing, you have to be proficient in Adobe Premiere.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And good fatherly hugs.

[Lily]

Yes.

[Josh]

Because I require them daily.

[Lily]

All right, guys, we love you. And make sure if you need any custom apparel, go to cindycool.com and if you need Ninja swag, which we got some ninja cool stuff coming out, our buddy Corndog. Corndog is designing us some new merch.

[Andy]

Corn dog visit with his wife Olivia, who is my Martha Stewart.

[Josh]

I have a very special tattoo that he's gonna do for me.

[Lily]

Same.

[Josh]

Very special. It's gonna be great.

[Lily]

All right, guys, we love you.

[Josh]

We love you.

[Lily]

See you on Patreon. Or YouTube members.

[Andrew]

Bye.

[Andy]

What you're about to see. Wow. May disturb you.

[Josh]

I'm gonna house if any of you.

[Andrew]

Know what these multi decade UAP dolphins.

[Josh]

Aliens Have a heart attack. Bottle nose Fish Pigs.

[Andy]

There's a massive police response.

[Josh]

Oh, the dolphin thing. Oh my God. Dolphin style attack.

[Andrew]

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[Josh]

As a raider scavenging a derelict world.

[Andrew]

You settle into an underground settlement. But now you must return to the.

[Lily]

Surface, where arc machines roam.

[Andrew]

If you're brave enough, who knows what you might find? Arc Raiders. A multiplayer extraction adventure video game.

[Josh]

Buy now for PlayStation 5, Xbox Series.

[Lily]

X and S, and PC.

[Andrew]

Rated T for teenager.