172 - NASA's Nuclear Black Mold, Medusa's Raft & The Devil's Lake

Summary

Ninjas Are Butterflies – Episode 172 Summary

"NASA's Nuclear Black Mold, Medusa's Raft & The Devil's Lake"
Release Date: December 12, 2025
Hosts: Josh Hooper, Andy DeNoon (+ recurring friends & guest Jake Hutchinson)

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Overview

Episode 172 of Ninjas Are Butterflies is a classic blend of wild stories, hilarious banter, and bewildering science-meets-mythology conversations. With an ensemble cast of hosts and returning guest Jake Hutchinson, the episode dives into conspiracies, strange creature lore, weird science breakthroughs, and infamous survival stories—all through a comedic, fast-paced lens.

The main themes include:

• Mysterious fungus at Chernobyl and NASA's interest
• Bizarre tales from history (like the Medusa shipwreck)
• Tales of lake monsters, giants, and legendary creatures
• Technological and societal oddities (Neuralink, blackout conspiracies)
• Offbeat Q&As and classic messing-with-each-other bits

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Viral Nostalgia, Dune Foley, and Thanksgiving Catch-ups

• The group kicks things off joking about Vine's return as "Divine" (01:33) and whether strict anti-AI policies will work.
• Conversation segues into movie sound design, specifically 'Dune', and how practical effects are created, sparking a tangent on cool behind-the-scenes Foley artistry (02:29).
• Thanksgiving stories, dry turkey mishaps, and family dynamics set a relaxed, relatable tone (05:04).

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2. Pet Stories Go Off the Rails

• Multiple hosts swap stories about dogs, including a dog named Dutch with some awkward habits (“He does hump children a lot, which is awful embarrassing,” –E, 08:43).
• Jake recounts a post-Thanksgiving dog fight so chaotic, he and a nervous guest both retreated and locked themselves in separate rooms (07:05).

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3. Thanksgiving Virality

• The hosts celebrate wholesome viral stories, like the woman who accidentally invited a stranger to Thanksgiving—now a decade-long tradition (09:21).

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4. Conspiracy Comedy: Did We Go to the Moon?

• Banter about Russian denial of the moon landing—“First time I've ever agreed with Russia in a while." – B (12:26)—leads to jokes about their own podcast being Putin's favorite and silly celebrations of their own accidental fame (13:02).

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5. Comedy & Gaslighting: The Lily Segment

• A recurring bit involves tricking co-host Lily with fake questions, escalating into mock outrage and a completely fabricated “viewer question” about racism (“Racism. It's good, right?” –E, 15:53)—all a setup for comedic chaos and meta-commentary on their gaslighting tradition (14:51–16:59).
• “Let's just get this over with. Everybody be quiet.” –E, before reading the infamous fake viewer question (15:38)

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6. Weather Hysteria & Propaganda: “Death Winter” & Psyops

• Forecasts of a looming “death winter” spark survival tips and mock existentialism (“It could just be a bunch of hoopla, too.” –A, 26:28).
• The crew riffs on algorithm-driven news and personal paranoia about living inside a real-life psyop—“Your physical circle is like geofence … they could do that.” –D (27:10); “Everything is a psyop.” –A, (27:32).

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7. Mental Health, EMDR, and Therapy

• Josh shares his experience with EMDR therapy for anxiety—“You go back to that memory, rewire it to where it's like, it wasn't so bad. Like, you're alright.” (29:04)
• The conversation demystifies EMDR, assures Christian listeners it’s not hypnosis, and encourages not ignoring trauma.
• “What's not Christian is just ignoring your trauma and letting it affect you and everyone else around.” –B (31:17)

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8. Neuralink, Telepathy, and Mind Control Fears

• The crew discusses Elon Musk's Neuralink patents on telepathy, telekinesis, and 'blindsight' (31:38-32:54).
• Ethical questions, Black Mirror parallels, and worries about ads in your brain—“That is the closest thing to the mark of the beast that we've ever been.” –B, 36:03
• Real uses cited: Paraplegics walking again, theory that facility locations are suspiciously close to ICE holding centers (37:47).

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9. Giants, The Book of Enoch, and The Watchers

• Explores ancient legends: Sons of God/angels fathering Nephilim (Genesis 6), and the Book of Enoch’s wild revelations—“But the Book of Enoch … has a lot of historical backing to it.” –A, (52:01)
• Debates about the Watchers, Mount Hermon, and mythic angelic tech.

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10. Pop Culture, Pokémon & Investment Mishaps

• Pokémon card economics, and the scheme to corner the market on one cheap card (“He could have all these Kabuto cards, burn them all except one …” –A, 40:41).
• Jokes about NFTs and failed get-rich-quick stories—“If I'm not a millionaire from my NFT, I will pay you $100 … I have a reminder in my Apple cloud.” –B, 41:46.

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11. Government Conspiracies & UAP Tech

• The Rothschilds, Dick Cheney running secret UFO programs, and NASA cutting live feeds after slip-ups about “ancient life on Mars” (49:58).
• “Who was talking Ancient life on Mars?” –D (49:56).

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12. Chernobyl's Black Fungus – Science Stranger Than Fiction

[Main segment: 77:22–81:49]

• Discovery of a black fungus thriving in radioactive ruins, absorbing radiation and turning it into clean energy (78:32).
• “It grows toward radiation, it grows faster in higher radiation, repairs its own DNA damage extremely well, and uses radiation for energy.” –A, 79:55
• NASA is studying the fungus to shield spacecraft, with successful International Space Station tests: “It does way better in space than it does on Earth” –A, 80:35.
• Paranoia about Last of Us-like outbreaks (“…ever since I watched Last of Us, I haven’t touched a mushroom” –E, 81:08).

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13. Lake Creatures, Serpents, and Giants

[Devil's Lake: 93:37–97:58]

• Devil’s Lake, Wisconsin: Legends of red-haired giants, mass deaths, and supernatural thunderbirds fighting lake serpents.
• “Fire rained down from the sky. Killed all the giants. And it said the lake was red with the giants' blood.” –A, 95:16
• Modern sightings of serpentine creatures and odd military activity/lake restrictions.

[Nessie, Brosno Dragon… Ogres Everywhere]

• The similarities with Loch Ness, Russia’s Brosno dragon, and other world myths—always with isolated, ancient lakes and reports spanning centuries.

[Red-Haired Giants Theme]

• Red-haired cannibal giants appear in globally isolated mythologies (102:10), theorized connection with Nephilim.

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14. Historical Survival: The Raft of the Medusa (Painting & Real-Life Horror)

[103:30–109:34]

• The French naval disaster of 1816: Captain abandons 147 men on a makeshift raft; only 15 survive after cannibalism, mutiny, and hallucinations over 13 days at sea.
• “Within days, people start fighting one another, pushing people overboard… stabbing one another, killing one another…” –B, 106:04
• The painting (Raft of the Medusa) becomes the second-most famous work in the Louvre.

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15. Miraculous Survival: Poon Lim’s 133 Days Adrift

[110:31–114:20]

• Poon Lim, a steward who survived 133 days alone on a raft, using rainwater, fish guts, and even fighting a shark.
• “He said, the only reason that kept me going is because he didn't want his mom thinking he died out in the sea.” –B, 114:18

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16. Jumping in Dark Water, JPDs & Lake Horror

• Jake’s “JPD” (jumped per day) philosophy—confessions about avoiding water now because of hair care.
• Horror story: Friend grabs a wrist instead of sunglasses in a pitch-black canal—later discovered a missing woman (92:09–92:26).
• Reflection on night swims, urban legends, and what counts as “submerged enough” for a real JPD.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (By Timestamp)

• “He does hump children a lot, which is awful embarrassing.” –E, 08:43
• “First time I've ever agreed with Russia in a while." –B, 12:26
• “Racism. It's good, right?” –E (in character, reading bait question), 15:53
• “Everything is a psyop.” –A, 27:32
• “What's not Christian is just ignoring your trauma and letting it affect you…” –B, 31:17
• “That's the closest thing to the mark of the beast that we've ever been.” –B, 36:03
• “It grows faster in higher radiation, repairs its own DNA damage extremely well, and uses radiation for energy.” –A, 79:55
• “Fire rained down from the sky. Killed all the giants. And it said the lake was red with the giants' blood.” –A, 95:16

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• 05:04 — Dog fight story & Thanksgiving family talk
• 09:21 — Viral Thanksgiving stranger story
• 15:53 — Gaslight Lily: Fake viewer question segment
• 26:28 — “Death winter” & news psyops
• 29:04 — EMDR therapy and mental health
• 32:54 — Neuralink, telepathy patents, and sci-fi fears
• 49:54 — NASA “live feed cut” after “ancient life on Mars” slip
• 77:22 — Chernobyl fungus science segment
• 93:37 — Devil's Lake legend, giants, serpents
• 103:30 — Raft of Medusa story and painting
• 110:31 — Poon Lim’s 133-day survival tale

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Episode Vibe & Running Jokes

• The tone is zany but analytical—a mashup of late-night hangout and ancient alien documentary.
• Trademark bits: gaslighting Lily, running "speaking of..." transitions, and flip-flopping between skepticism and credulity.
• Running themes: the oddness of modern technology and news, the enduring weirdness of old legends, and just how strange (and darkly funny) human survival can be.

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Conclusion

This episode is a whirlwind tour of the bizarre, blending cryptic history, unexplainable science, and dark humor, making it ideal for anyone who loves conspiracies, cryptids, or just seriously entertaining group banter. Dinosaurs, giant fungi, haunted lakes, and paintings of cannibalism—name one more episode that checks all those boxes!

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Where to Find More

• Find Jake Hutchinson: IG – @hutchjake | TikTok –@jakehutchinson3
• New episodes (& extra content): [Ninjas Are Butterflies on Patreon/YouTube]

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Tip: Don’t eat mushrooms while listening, avoid dark water at night, and beware of guys gaslighting you with sealed “viewer questions”.

Transcript

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Be careful jumping in the water. You might grab a wrist.

[A]

Speaking of jumping in water, you don't want to jump in this body of water. The Devil's Lake in Wisconsin, filled with giants, serpents, and Thunderbirds.

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No JPDs there.

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And there's a black fungus coming out of Chernobyl that's consuming radiation. And NASA is taking it to space.

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Find out why this podcast is brought to you and Powered by Space Sunday. Cool. Watch this or listen.

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Did you guys hear vines coming back?

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Yes.

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They're calling it Divine.

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Yeah, Divine.

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Divine.

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Do it for Divine. I can't. It's not. It's not gonna work.

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They're. They're all. What they're pushing, though, is that it is completely restricting any AI.

[E]

Oh, that's cool.

[B]

That would be cool to have like a free AI platform.

[D]

I love that you guys were like, it's not gonna work. And then as soon as he says their whole pitch, you're like, yeah, is the guy.

[A]

Well, that's.

[B]

It's different then.

[C]

Yeah, go to the business plan.

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Sometimes the guy who started Twitter, I think is doing it.

[B]

That'd be cool.

[E]

Wait, that guy's all in his censorship.

[A]

You're right.

[B]

The guy that does Twitter. Or did Twitter.

[A]

Did Twitter.

[B]

Okay, cool.

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Okay, okay.

[B]

I'm on board. I'll see. I still don't. Are they still doing six seconds? Wait.

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Wah, wah.

[D]

I muted my mic trying to get it right, but you see how they.

[B]

Make the drones in Dune, like the sound of the. Like the fluttering wings. No, dude, it's so cool. They have these rubber bands. It's like this wooden structure with. With rubber bands, like pulled tightly and they just swing it around. And that's what creates the noise.

[D]

Yeah.

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Cool.

[C]

Have you ever watched those Foley videos where they make sounds from movies?

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Yeah.

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It's so fun to watch.

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Coolest thing ever. How they do that.

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Yeah.

[D]

What is going on with your mic?

[E]

Did you see that in Dune? Andy? The. When they're Dune 2, they're filming the Harkonnen part where they.

[B]

He was just telling me about that. Yes, all infrared. Have you seen Dune?

[C]

To only half of it. I only watched on airplanes.

[A]

So you saw the beginning?

[C]

Yes.

[A]

That part where it's the black and white scene where they're in that coliseum. It's the bald. What's his face.

[C]

The guy is dead, but it comes back to life.

[B]

I don't think that's at the beginning.

[E]

No, it's very.

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It's like in the middle.

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Yeah.

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Is it?

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Yeah.

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This three hour?

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Pretty sure.

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Yeah.

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That's pretty.

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Well, anyways, that scene took 16 months to film and edit.

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What?

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And the director outfitted their camera with an infrared. Like a security infrared camera. So it's not shot in black and white. Shot in infrared. Why? He just wanted that look. He wanted this like translucent.

[E]

It looks really cool.

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Creepy look.

[E]

You should watch that movie. So good start up.

[B]

When they first start flapping.

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Whoa. And you can hear it's already different.

[B]

If I go slow.

[E]

But just makes.

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This deliciously weird buzzing noise. Deliciously weird buzzing noise.

[C]

I want to add that to my vocabulary. Deliciously, swimmingly.

[D]

Hit the spot. Cheers.

[B]

Hey, Jake is back.

[A]

Hey, Jake is back.

[B]

Good morning.

[E]

I thought that came out of his mouth. I was like, wow.

[B]

Could you sing the whole song right now if we put you on the spot?

[D]

Good morning.

[C]

Look at the valedictoria. Is that the same one or is that a different one? Yeah.

[B]

I don't know.

[C]

Scared of the future while he hopping a DeLorean. Good morning.

[A]

You miss 170.

[C]

I know. I'm so sorry. I've bailed on you guys last minute and I apologize. Thanks for even having me back after. Oh fiasco.

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Like worse. So do we do it? We had. Do we do it every now like 182. Do we do every 10 or do we. No, I think it bad.

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I think we put it back. Yeah, we got it. So we'll give you the date for 180.

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Thank you.

[B]

And we'll figure it out. We gotta make it happen.

[E]

How was your Thanksgiving?

[C]

It was really Good. I did no work for, like, four days and then felt really stressed out at the end of it. And we had a dry turkey, but overall it was good.

[E]

Were you in charge of the turkey?

[C]

No. I don't want to put blame on anyone, but.

[E]

Who was it, your mom?

[C]

Yeah. No, I love her. She was good, and she did. She's the one who runs the Thanksgiving, and she makes sure our family stays happy. We went on a nice walk and a trail in Orlando, and it was a good Thanksgiving. How about y'?

[E]

All? Yeah, really good. We went to Tampa.

[D]

Tampa.

[B]

I feel like Mama Hutch has got to be the coolest mom in the world.

[E]

Is she very tall?

[C]

No, she's. She's, like, good. Nice. Female height. Like five ten, maybe five' eight. I don't know. I don't know how to.

[A]

Five' ten is.

[D]

That's pretty tall, dude.

[B]

Amazonian.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

It's the weirdest thing. I don't, like, see women's heights. I don't see color.

[A]

Hey, good for you.

[B]

That's awesome.

[C]

I don't. Sometimes my girlfriend's like, that girl's so short. And I'm like, isn't she the same height as you? And she's like, no, she's five foot. I'm like, oh, okay.

[B]

But isn't her.

[C]

I don't know.

[B]

She's so short. But isn't her soul so beautiful? Yes. I mean, I don't know.

[A]

Are you pregnant?

[B]

Because you're glowing.

[C]

Yeah. That.

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Also a little overweight? No. What doing.

[A]

Oh, man.

[B]

Good to have you back.

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Yeah.

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Thank you for having me back.

[B]

What do you want for Christmas, Jake?

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I want a. I want Birkenstocks. The ones that are fully covered. The Boston's, I think.

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Like the clog looking ones.

[C]

Yes. I want those bad. What do you guys want?

[A]

Also broken stocks.

[C]

Really? The clog ones or.

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The.

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The clog ones would be cool, but I like the strap ones.

[C]

Yeah, they're cheaper.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

My dog chewed my last pair.

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Really?

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

I'm so tired of this dog. I'm ready. Get rid of him today.

[C]

What kind is it? I almost got a dog, but I didn't.

[E]

You want him?

[C]

Maybe.

[E]

He's really sweet.

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Never does anything wrong.

[E]

His name is Dutch. He's a golden retriever.

[C]

Nice.

[E]

Yeah. He was expensive.

[C]

How much?

[E]

Like a thousand bucks.

[C]

What's the resale on them?

[E]

You can have them.

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Really? Literally.

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You can have them for free.

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Okay.

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No.

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Yes.

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Josh.

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He's so done with him. We have him on the hook.

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I saw a dog fight a few Nights ago, actually. It was like a day after Thanksgiving meal and I was sitting in the living room and two dogs just erupt, fighting and they're grabbing each other's mouths and just bloods everywhere. And I ran out. I saw this one kid, it was his first time at this house. This family invited this kid they hadn't seen in years over for like a post Thanksgiving dinner. And 20 minutes into the dinner, a huge dog fight happens in an enclosed area. He runs into the bedroom and like locks the door. Is so funny. But I did too. I saw him. I was like, yeah, that's a good idea. There's three dogs and they're giant and they're all fighting and blood's everywhere. It was pretty scary.

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Oh my gosh.

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Yeah, I know.

[E]

What kind of dogs do you live?

[C]

One was a. It was a dog I almost got. I made a video with it. His name was Optimus Prime. Oh yeah, it was that dog. But he wasn't the aggressor. I don't know what kind there. They're like. It's a furry and white and yeah. Twirly fur. Maybe a golden doodle or something.

[B]

Yeah. Cool looking dog.

[E]

You know they're sentient, right? Like they like soul in there.

[C]

What does sentient mean?

[A]

Yeah, golden doodles are.

[E]

They're just like. There's a person encapsulated in that dog.

[A]

Oh.

[E]

Like they're so smart. They're super emotional. They like can articulate their emotions. Generally they're super depressed too, which is awful.

[B]

Well, yeah, if you're stuck in a dog looking like that, I would be too.

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I think that's Our highest viewed YouTube short is the one that we did about. Was it Bunny?

[A]

Yeah, Bunny.

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Bunny the dog. It's like, like existential questions with like one of those talking boards. Pretty heavy.

[E]

Spooky.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Anyway, Dutch, he would not get in a dog fight. He is a sweetie, like really sweet. He just needs a lot of attention and he chews a lot of stuff.

[A]

That's every precious. Always, always peas, I think small children.

[E]

He does hump children a lot, which is awful embarrassing.

[A]

Yeah, we'll catch him. We'll like just walk. Be sitting in the living room, catch him and he'll just like grab one of the couch bills and he's just going to town. Like Dutch, stop. Get down.

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Just off of the movie.

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Click.

[B]

Do you remember that, that one dog, it literally looks like Dutch too.

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Yeah.

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He's getting fixed in February. He has an appointment. I think a lot will change.

[C]

How old is he?

[A]

Almost Two.

[C]

He's not. I don't know anything about dogs, but isn't he supposed to be fixed before.

[E]

Almost Two male dogs, they want you to keep it as long as you can because it stunts their growth.

[C]

Really?

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

Okay, My bad. Sorry, Dutch.

[B]

Speaking of Thanksgiving, did you see that? You remember that story of that lady? She was a grandma. She's sending out a text, and then this young guy that's like. He's like, hey, send me a picture. I don't know who you are. Like, it's your grandma. And she's like. And then sends a picture, and it's like, you're not my grandma, but can I still come over for a plate and invited over. That's. It's been 10 years.

[E]

Oh, that's.

[B]

And they've done it every single year for the past 10 years. I saw that.

[C]

That was so cool.

[A]

That's so cool.

[B]

Love that story.

[A]

It's been a cool. You guys want a song?

[C]

Yes, please.

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This song will probably get flagged. If it does. It probably won't, but if it does, Patreon or Spotify, that's where you can go. Listen to this. Masterpiece.

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Yes, Masterpiece.

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Masterpiece.

[B]

Master P, maybe. Oh, was that the. Was Master P the rapper that was. That was named Masterpiece?

[A]

I don't know what you're talking about.

[B]

There's a rapper named Master P. He's pretty big in the 90s, 80s.

[A]

I don't think so.

[C]

New Orleans.

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Yeah.

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All right, ready, ready, ready. Playing with the soundstage light Going to fake a fly Buzz is all dressed up and he's bouncing around but he won't leave town he's got an old dusty flag Going to let it fly so we can sell this lie I don't even know why they're ready to roll so we gotta go Everyone knows that it all was fake We.

[A]

Except the boomers.

[B]

Even Putin says that it all was fake All. It was just propaganda.

[A]

Couldn't you agree that it's hard to believe.

[B]

I mean, can't you see it sounds like baloney.

[A]

I feel like we should have gone.

[B]

Up maybe a little bit. I also can't hear. I literally couldn't hear when I was singing, so it was so bad.

[D]

It's not you. It's this. The compression on this thing. Literally, I couldn't hear my guitar. Just whoever was being louder in the moment, that's all.

[C]

Yeah, that.

[B]

That was tough.

[E]

I wasn't anticipating those vocals coming. I was like, oh, my gosh.

[A]

You try to gambit louder?

[D]

No.

[A]

Oh, it's good.

[B]

Oh, the Other.

[C]

I like that. That was good.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Nice. I did just see that. That Russia says that we never went to the moon. They teach that we never went.

[A]

Really?

[B]

First time I've ever agreed with Russia in a while.

[A]

Thank you, Russia. Shout out.

[B]

Russia.

[A]

We talked a lot about it on the lie. The lie.

[B]

Oh, you think Putin knows who slip there? Huh? Oh.

[A]

Huh?

[D]

You think Putin knows who we are?

[A]

I think so.

[E]

We're his favorite show. That'd be awesome.

[B]

We've definitely. He's definitely been briefed. Yeah, for sure.

[A]

You know, it's so funny. So we just. Spotify highlighted us for. Was it the culture? Culture of the year. Podcast editors picks.

[B]

One out of 12 editors picked for the culture.

[A]

So ninjas are butterflies. Got the month of May.

[C]

That's incredible.

[A]

And it was like cultural moments. And it was because we talked about the new Pope, but we had our buddy Anthony dressed as the pope.

[B]

So hilarious. People just going through, like, wow, we really want to learn about American culture.

[A]

So funny.

[C]

That's awesome. Congratulations. I saw that on your story. That was really cool.

[D]

Dude, it's nuts.

[C]

That's legit.

[D]

There's got to be somewhere, someone out there who literally tuned in. They're like, I want to know more about the new pope.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

For at least a period of time. They were like, that dude seems just like a normal guy. That's crazy.

[B]

Who's Pope Theo?

[A]

Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Everyone just shut up.

[B]

What?

[C]

Josh always telling everyone to shut up. How about you be quiet?

[E]

Tell him.

[C]

I will tell him. I'm tired of it.

[D]

What's happening right now?

[B]

Did you just let someone tell you to shut up like that?

[A]

I don't know.

[E]

Tell him, Jake.

[A]

Hey, shut up.

[C]

Shut the heck up.

[B]

All right.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

I want to ask the question this time. Oh, that's not true. I don't want to ask the question, but I am tired of messing with Lily. I know I said that last time, but I really meant it, and I'm in the Christmas spirit.

[A]

Oh.

[C]

I don't even know if I did this at the right time, but I had a viewer send in a question.

[E]

Oh, gosh.

[B]

You weren't expecting this, were you?

[C]

I don't know if I messed up your segment or anything. I'm sorry.

[B]

I didn't know. I mean, we're good.

[A]

That's fine.

[B]

This is fine.

[C]

The viewer sent in a sealed question for you to read.

[E]

Oh, man.

[C]

I just feel bad that, I don't know. Everyone's always ganging up on you, and this is.

[A]

Does she like to answer It.

[C]

No, she doesn't have to answer it. Oh, I don't know. I don't know what's gonna say, but.

[B]

So, Lily, you're asking us.

[A]

You're asking us so we don't have to answer, or she doesn't have to answer?

[C]

Correct.

[B]

So there's no way you could screw this up, Lil.

[E]

All right, that's great.

[B]

This is perfect.

[A]

This is new. All right, See what this is all about?

[C]

Thank me.

[D]

I'm nervous. I'm getting gaslit now.

[A]

All right, so today's question sent me by a viewer.

[E]

I'm not reading that.

[B]

Well, you have to read.

[E]

I'm not reading that.

[D]

What does it say?

[B]

It's a question from a viewer. What does it say?

[E]

I'm not reading that.

[A]

Well, you don't have to answer. So obviously, like, we might be the bad guys in this.

[B]

Yes. Come on.

[E]

I see what you're doing.

[B]

We're not doing anything. This is Jake. Jake got the question from the viewers. I don't even know, really.

[E]

Jake and his Sunday Cool stationary.

[A]

It was.

[C]

Sent it in. They had the stamp. They sold stamps in 2030 back then.

[A]

All right, I'm kind of nervous now.

[E]

Whatever.

[A]

I hate to answer this honestly.

[B]

I feel bad for Lily because this is. If this is how it feels every week, I don't think think we should continue.

[E]

Let's just get this over with. Everybody be quiet.

[A]

Oh, today's question sended by a viewer.

[E]

That I did not write. Why don't you say a viewer said it? And I am not endorsing it. I'm reading a question out.

[B]

So do the whole buildup, then the.

[A]

Goal, since you're the guy now.

[E]

Racism. It's good, right?

[A]

What the.

[C]

What?

[B]

What?

[E]

That's what this says. I didn't say that. That's what this says.

[A]

I'm sorry. You didn't say it came out of your mouth. Why would you ask a question like that?

[E]

Oh, my gosh. I didn't write.

[B]

That's insane. Wait, can you pass that to Jake? Can I see that?

[C]

Yeah. I. I don't want to touch it. Can you pass it? Throw it to him. Sorry.

[A]

I'll get up since it's closer to you.

[B]

This is because there's no way. There's no way that it says that.

[C]

No, a viewer wouldn't send that.

[B]

Are orphans cute? What are you talking about?

[A]

Really?

[E]

That's not what that said.

[C]

Don't.

[B]

That's what it says. Talking about what? Are you just, like, projecting your thoughts onto us?

[A]

Stop throwing stuff at me. That hurt. You could have hurt him. She did, though.

[B]

You heard him.

[A]

Why would you even ask a question like that? Lil, seriously. Hold on. We can cut this out. Yeah, why would you ask a question like that?

[E]

Josh, stop.

[A]

I'm not. What are you talking about?

[B]

I'm sure you hate racism, right?

[E]

I do.

[B]

Okay, name another thing you hate our. Oh, my gosh. Literally. We're going to have to bleep that. That's crazy. What are you talking about?

[A]

Why would.

[B]

You can't say that. Oh, my gosh.

[A]

Really? You can't. Oh, my God. I have to.

[D]

I have to edit.

[B]

What are you doing? This YouTube video is gonna be taken down.

[D]

I'll cut that.

[A]

Well, I guess you guys heard it here first. Lily's just asking really, really inappropriate questions. And you hate what you should say.

[B]

Oh, my gosh.

[A]

Lily, welcome to the show. Did I say ninja? I meant butterfly.

[B]

The butterfly is no doubt one of God's most beautiful creatures.

[D]

Has empty your mind.

[B]

You learn martial arts. Ninjas attack.

[A]

Every year I swear I'm going to be thoughtful with my gifts.

[B]

And every year you panic, you crumble and you end up buying a gift card from a gas station.

[A]

That was one time.

[B]

It was three times, technically.

[A]

Whatever. This year I avoided the meltdown.

[B]

You sure did. Because we started handing out aura frames.

[A]

It's the only gift that makes you look prepared, even when you're not.

[B]

It's honestly the perfect like, oh, I planned this months ago type of gift.

[A]

Even if you absolutely did not.

[B]

And it's personal way more than a sweater they're going to pretend to like.

[A]

Andy, who do you always struggle to shop for?

[B]

For me, it's that person that I love but I know nothing about. Like, that's like just their whole personality is just nice. Yep.

[A]

So aura frame is perfect because everyone loves seeing memories like this one.

[B]

And you can upload unlimited photos and videos through the Aura app. You just connect to wi Fi.

[A]

You can preload your photos before it even ships.

[B]

You can add a message, add a moment, add a picture of me looking like an idiot.

[A]

There are many.

[B]

And you can keep adding photos from anywhere all year round.

[A]

It becomes this ongoing gift.

[B]

Plus it comes in as premium gift box with no price tag. Looks very classy.

[A]

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[B]

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[A]

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[A]

Seriously, give someone an aura frame and look like the hero of Christmas.

[B]

You deserve that kind of respect.

[A]

Look, everyone knows when my week starts getting chaotic, I started eating like a divorce raccoon.

[B]

Yeah, Josh, it really does scare me when you start eating like that.

[A]

That's why Tempo has basically saved my life.

[B]

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[A]

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[B]

A person with actual culinary education made this. Not me. Like just crazy hungry panic mode. And at 11pm and each meal is.

[A]

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[B]

Two minutes. That's barely enough time for me to consider doing a push up and then.

[A]

Decided against it, obviously. Tempo also drops 20 new recipes every.

[B]

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[A]

Pretty sure I ate the same three meals for eight straight years in a row.

[B]

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[A]

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[B]

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[A]

Chasing, they've got a meal for it.

[B]

And Tempo was also the official sponsor of the 2025 CrossFit Games. When. If it means it's good enough for people who flip over tires for fun, it's good enough for you.

[A]

Meanwhile, I get winded, tie in my own shoes.

[B]

But seriously, Tempo makes me feel like an athlete. A delusional athlete, but still an athlete.

[A]

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[B]

That's Tempo meals.com/ninjas. For 60% off your your first box.

[A]

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[B]

Yeah, I know. I'm wearing this GLD chain and I'm not gonna lie, I feel like a new man.

[A]

You came in like a man who knows a dark government secret.

[B]

The secret is jewelry that finally exists that doesn't feel like a vending machine prize.

[A]

Buying men's jewelry used to be a nightmare, especially around the holidays.

[B]

You try to find something meaningful, then.

[A]

All you get is stuff that snapped together faster than my New Year's resol.

[B]

But GLD changed the game.

[A]

Quality pieces that don't break the bank.

[B]

Real gold in every piece. You can literally Feel it. Nice weight, nice shine.

[A]

And every stone is handset.

[B]

Yes. And someone with actual skill placed those, not some weird random robot named Trevor.

[A]

GLD's whole process is on another tier.

[B]

And I'm telling you, putting on this chain changed my whole mood.

[A]

I mean, you strutted into this office. Strutted with purpose, like he was about to negotiate the contract. He doesn't understand.

[B]

And GLD has everything. Chains, pendants, watches, rings, earrings.

[A]

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[B]

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[A]

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[B]

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[A]

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[B]

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[A]

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[B]

Thank you, jld.

[A]

Thank you, gld.

[B]

What?

[E]

So I'm so confused.

[A]

We're gonna bleep it out to make it seem like.

[B]

That was so good.

[C]

You guys are good.

[B]

Good job, Jakey.

[A]

Yes, sir.

[B]

I should have. I should have had a paper folded up just like that. That said, an innocent question.

[C]

I didn't expect that second part. That was awesome. You guys are so good at this.

[A]

We love Gaslighting Lily.

[B]

Oh, my gosh, what a blast. It's actually like. It's just like a song, you know? We'd have to just think a creative way just to do it every single week. Yeah, I think it's literally the only thing that's keeping our brains alive at this point.

[A]

Yeah, we would just become a stagnant podcast if we didn't have to think of something new every week. How are we going to gaslight you? Let's make her say something really awful.

[E]

But I didn't even say something awful. You're just making it appear.

[A]

What did you actually say? Oh, just kidding.

[B]

Just kidding. Well, so good.

[A]

Second week of December, huh?

[B]

Yep, we're here. I can't believe the year is almost over. I it drug on for the first half.

[E]

Believe me that I have not. It has not gone past me that this is supposed to be my birthday. Episode.

[A]

Uh.

[E]

Oh, where's my cake?

[B]

We haven't. We haven't really done anyone's birthday episodes.

[D]

That's true.

[A]

Yeah. We didn't do my birthday episode or my birthday episode.

[E]

I'm the podcast princess, though.

[B]

Do what?

[E]

I'm the podcast princess, though. I get a birthday cake.

[B]

There's no favorite.

[A]

We brought you a panda bono.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Panda bono.

[E]

That is a real gift.

[C]

There was a candle somewhere. I don't know if that.

[B]

And a coconut water.

[E]

Oh, and a coconut water.

[D]

Boom.

[B]

And we'll give you a free T shirt.

[E]

Thanks.

[A]

That is a deal. No, it's not a deal, though. We talked about on the live. The death winter that is coming.

[B]

Yeah. Have you heard about this, Jake?

[C]

No, I don't know if I want to. Is it coming to us or somebody else?

[B]

The entire everyone.

[A]

Death winter, they're calling it.

[B]

What do you think about it, Lil?

[E]

Eating something. I saw the movie Day After Tomorrow.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Jake Gyllenhaal, Dennis Quaid. So I think in Florida we're fine.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

In that movie, we're fine.

[B]

Did they talk about Florida in that?

[E]

Yeah. I mean, they're all trying to get south.

[C]

Right?

[E]

Because you are. To the equator, the better off you are.

[B]

Got it.

[E]

I fear for our northern friends.

[D]

I don't know that I've ever heard the equator referred to as the equator.

[E]

My guy.

[B]

My guy.

[A]

But yeah, it's supposed to. It's a. The polar vortex or whatever is breaking apart and it's pushing down into the United States. And they're saying, like, this front from, like, Siberia is going to blow over the United States. And they're expecting, like, places like Nashville to be, like, negative 15 degrees. Dang wind chill.

[B]

It's going to be wild.

[E]

When is this hitting?

[A]

They said, well, when this comes out next week.

[E]

Sick. Christmas. Snow in Florida.

[A]

Sick. A lot of people might die.

[E]

Oh, no.

[C]

But snow in Florida on Christmas.

[A]

That is actually very cool. I take it back.

[B]

Just doing snow angels. I forget about all those people suffering.

[E]

If you guys are listening, go get like, blankets and stuff.

[A]

Yeah. Or some device where you can do like a wood stove burner. It could just be a bunch of hoopla, too.

[B]

Yeah. Because I haven't heard it. Be on outside our little circle. So who knows?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

What if we're just being sent, like, centered around, like, all these, like, news stories are just being in our, like, area. Just where we're at.

[A]

Like, like be the propaganda machine.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Like a fed fake news to put on the podcast.

[A]

Like, it's smart that it Looks like they have all these followers, but it's like, literally, they only make videos. Like, how are you going to trick them?

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Oh, my gosh. That's like a real psyop, because it's like, people wouldn't be able to accuse you of being a psyop because you're like, I'm really finding this information, but it's like you're being planted. This information.

[B]

Yeah, dude.

[D]

Your physical circle is like geofence. So it's like your friends and family that all get pumped the same content, so you're all.

[B]

They could do that.

[E]

You're gonna activate some kind of phobia for him. He has this fear that we all are playing along and he's actually like, can't function and stuff like that.

[C]

Dude, I used to have that, too. That's not a fun thought.

[A]

No, scary.

[B]

Especially when it becomes a reality and you're just like, oh, no.

[A]

That's why I have crippling anxiety. I think everything is a psy.

[B]

You're doing better, though.

[A]

Way better.

[E]

Yeah, way better.

[B]

Give everyone an update. You're feeling a lot better.

[A]

EMDR is dope. Very cool.

[C]

What's that? Is that the Eastern Orthodox Church?

[E]

No, we're gonna talk about that, though.

[C]

Okay. What's the emdr?

[A]

It's a. Like a therapy thing to where it's. I forget what it stands for, but.

[E]

It'S Rapid Eye Movement. Something.

[A]

Yeah, I. Something where you, like. You follow this dot, and there's like. It almost seems like a hypnosis kind of thing, but it's not. It activates your rem, you know, like REM Sleep, and it activates that.

[E]

I got it right here. Eye Movement Desensitization.

[B]

Nailed it.

[E]

Let's try that again. Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing.

[C]

That's cool.

[A]

Yeah. But what it does is, so you're doing that, and you try to find, like, core memories. So, like, for my anxiety, like, trauma, like, whenever I've had, like, huge panic attack and we talked about it before, and then he does it, and it's like, you go back to that memory. How do you feel what's going on? And it's. I'm telling you, at first, I'm like, I had to stop. I'm like, I don't know if this.

[D]

Is going to work.

[A]

I'm like, I just feel like this is not going to work. He's like, just like, if you need to close your eyes and imagine it, you know, so it did it. And, dude, I'm telling You. He's like, like, what do you feel in your body? And, like, I could feel all the effects of that panic attack. Heart started racing. Like, my hands got super, like, cold, and it was just super weird. And then, like, you talk through. You talk through it, and basically you rewire your brain to where it's. Like, when I had that panic attack, you go back to that memory, rewire it to where it's like, it wasn't so bad. Like, you're. You're all right. And so next time you feel like you're about to have a panic attack, that it triggers that thing, you're like, I'm okay kind of thing.

[E]

Instead of deepening the grooves of these traumas, you basically, like, stitch them back together.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

It sounds like it wouldn't work, but I would tell you if it didn't work. And it has worked.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, pretty cool.

[B]

And I've heard experiences where people, like, are able to come up with memories. They've. Their brain is suppressed, and they. It comes up to the level, you're able to look at it, understand it, and then it's able to dissolve. So it's not something that your brain is suppressing, your body's holding on to, because that's what our bodies do. They hold on to that trauma, and it's able to dissolve that, and you're able to process it and then just get back to normal.

[E]

EMDR plus hormone therapy. That's what's helping.

[A]

Yeah. With Genesis Health Solutions.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

Also, we've upped our dosage of daily hugs, so Josh is at a good level right now.

[E]

I heard that if you guys kiss for, like, what is it, six seconds or something that boost your dopamine, too.

[B]

It's got to be more. You gotta be more than that.

[A]

We double it just to be on the same side.

[C]

Where can someone get this service if.

[A]

They want to emdr? I don't know.

[B]

I.

[A]

You can just look it up. I think this guy I work with.

[B]

They're everywhere.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

He's local, and he does.

[A]

It's becoming more of a, like, local or practice therapy thing.

[B]

More common. And you could do it online as well, but you just. And you could do it by yourself, but apparently that's like, a big no. No. Because you need someone to be able to bring you back and anchor you into, like. Like, getting settled and, you know, processing it all. Correct.

[A]

Because you could, in theory, make it worse. Oh, yeah.

[E]

There's, like, you need, like, a shaman. And for the Christians that are listening to this, the Christians that Are going, oh, that's spooky. I'm not into that. It's like, there's tons of Christians doing this. It's not like hypnosis where you're, like, susceptible to, like.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Some spiritual realm. It's. It's. You're very much so in your body.

[B]

Yeah. What's not Christian is just ignoring your trauma and letting it affect you and everyone else around. So that's also not very Christian.

[E]

Well said, Andy.

[A]

So instead of getting a panic attack, I just balk like a chicken?

[B]

You just got to choose a different route. Something just as traumatizing and embarrassing. But it's not a panic attack.

[C]

Logical. Congrats.

[A]

Thanks, man. Speaking of the brain. Brain neuro science. Neuralink.

[D]

Is there something new?

[A]

They have a patent.

[B]

Ooh, a new one.

[A]

On telepathy.

[E]

A patent on telepathy.

[A]

They filed multiple patents, and they have a patent on telepathy. Telekinesis in blind sight.

[B]

Blind sight.

[A]

That's the phenomenon to where people can literally have be blindfolded and they can still see everything around them.

[C]

Really?

[E]

11, that's insane. I'm gonna. I'm gonna patent my sense of smell. Your sense of smell? I'm patenting that.

[A]

But, yeah, so it's more of, like, a trademark that they're patenting.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Or like, they're trademarking telepathy, telekinesis, and blindsight.

[B]

So the purpose being, they're going to create a chip that is able to harness and allow people to have these abilities.

[A]

They're working on the technology. If not, they already have the technology to where, if you have the neuralink, you can literally communicate with someone via just thought, oh, my gosh, that's crazy. Literally. Telepathy. But the telekinesis is weird. The telekinesis, I mean, that's moving stuff with your brain.

[B]

Yeah. How would that.

[A]

I guess that would be like, Tesla.

[D]

Tesla robot.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

You'd Being able to control, like, if they hook, like, a robot up to.

[D]

You and think about the site thing, too. If you're like, if we were all connected and then I went to another room. But it's like, you know, his Teslas will, like, map an entire, like, neighborhood. So you're driving, you can see where you're going. It should be able to project that vision so that someone who can't see would see at least a grid or an understanding of the space they're in based on the vision of everyone else who has a neural link around them.

[C]

Whoa.

[B]

Never lose my parked car ever again.

[A]

Ever. No, but it's crazy in it. Like they're.

[B]

I mean, that totally makes sense though, because it's a. It's literally just a tag. It's like a walkie talkie that's hooked up to your brain, be able to connect to other people that used to have the same device that seems like.

[A]

You'Re harnessing like a different type of realm.

[B]

I mean, they're doing like stuff with dreams and stuff.

[A]

I know, but like, how. How can that be a technology that's in your brain that's like almost your consciousness being able to communicate with another.

[B]

Conscious and they're manipulating it. Yeah. That's crazy.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

This is super strange, man. What a weird world. Like 20 years from now, you could just be like in class, just talking with somebody.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, go ahead.

[E]

No, you're good.

[A]

No, go.

[E]

Neuralink is Elon Musk, right?

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

I just think that that's interesting because he's all about just, you know, everything being accessible to everybody, yet he wants to patent it so that he's the only one that could control it.

[A]

I think maybe just trademark it.

[D]

To where?

[A]

Yeah, I guess. I don't know.

[E]

I don't know.

[B]

I mean, he may get accessible to everyone, but he would be the only one doing it, which is also dangerous.

[E]

I know. I feel like this is something that we need combined minds about.

[B]

But I also don't want like Walmart getting like, hey, you know, you could just get a cheaper version here at Walmart, right? You know, the good value version of the Neuralink.

[E]

I also Google getting it. Google's doing some suspect stuff.

[B]

Google will be for sure.

[C]

Is there gonna be a free of ad?

[A]

We love Google Ads. Probably, yeah.

[E]

Have you seen that Black Mirror episode.

[A]

Where it's like, it's literally that. Yeah, it's a brain chip and it's like it helped to not die. And they're like, it's this new technology. It's life saving because she was dead, basically, or she was going to die. So they put in this brain chip, she wakes up and she's alive, everything. And all of a sudden there's an ad. She like starts saying the ad, like, go now to blah, blah, blah.

[C]

That's crazy.

[B]

Like, yeah, she's like, just because, like, it was all good when she woke up. They're like, you just pay this fee every year. And they're like, cool, we'll do it. And then the next year, like next.

[A]

Month, it was an upgrade.

[B]

They. Yeah, they downgrade her, you know, to the lower things, like actually that's the price. Now you have the one with ads. And so the husband will be making a smoothie and she'll be like, tropicana bananas are actually a lot better with.

[A]

You know, potassium, like the premium version. And then it gets to where she can't leave whatever cell towers, like, the region. Like, she, like, will literally go out of service. And like, holy cow.

[C]

She's like a walking Amazon. Alexa. Yes, that's horrible.

[B]

But it's turning into reality.

[C]

I can't imagine having, like, something else besides my thoughts and my brain that I can't control. Like, there's like, more words coming and where they're coming from and how are they getting into?

[B]

To me, that's the closest thing to the mark of the beast that we've ever been.

[D]

Oh.

[B]

Because it's truly like, it can change what your thoughts are and what your passions are, what you desire, all those things. Yeah, it'd be great for appetite suppression.

[D]

True.

[B]

Just like, crank it down. It's like you're this many calories a day. Anytime you look at something that that's over your calorie limit, you just ignores it. Yeah. Also be able to turn and everything on with your neuralink. Like, in your house. You have like, neuralink, a synced up object.

[A]

Change the channel on your TV channels.

[B]

Turn on your, you know, do the laundry.

[A]

What if it'd be like. Because, you know, like, you're like, how it takes forever to find a movie or a show. You're just like, I don't know. And you just give up at one point.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You'd be like, I really want this kind of movie. Like.

[B]

Yeah, you wouldn't even have to think of it. You would just. It would just know what mood you're in for right now.

[A]

That's what I would like.

[B]

See, there's so many things that are pros to it. People are like. I mean, if I sign up on this and I only have to pay 50 bucks a month for the next 48 months. Yeah, I'll do that. Like, it'll be sold to people like that. Yeah. That's scary, man.

[A]

It's weird.

[B]

I mean, I love it, but I hate it.

[C]

Do people already have neuralink?

[B]

Yeah, there's some people that actually, like, started walking. People who are paralyzed.

[C]

Diseases.

[D]

Yeah, it's crazy. There's like a dad who's like, playing video games with his kids now because he can completely, like, control a thing. And before he was like a paraplegic or.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, they're doing it.

[B]

They're doing a ton of testing in Miami. The, the college down there.

[E]

You know what is super weird about that though? I know we talked about this on one of our prior episodes, but all the newer lake facilities are posting up next to ICE facilities. Ice where they're keeping people and they have a new quota where they're wanting to do thousands of new implants and.

[B]

But they need to test it.

[E]

They need to test it.

[A]

And suspiciously, they need like volunteers.

[E]

And all of these people, all these people, these deportees are going missing, you're hearing about.

[C]

Is that true?

[D]

Yeah, I mean, it was.

[E]

It's a conspiracy.

[D]

They moved. They moved neuralink to Miami to do all that testing, which is just outside of Alligator Alcatraz. And then there was a bunch of stuff where they couldn't find people that had. Supposedly their paper trail ends at Alligator Alcatraz.

[C]

Wow.

[E]

There's another one in Miami too. I mean, not Miami. I'm sorry.

[B]

How many people are volunteering for this, Jake? Like, how many, like, would you be like. Yeah, why not?

[C]

No, but I don't have a critical condition where I would need that. I guess.

[D]

But for science you would need pretty general population, average people.

[C]

Yeah, average.

[B]

But science has always done really well with human animals, ethically, with, you know, with volunteers and research.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

They've never used anything, you know, towards animals or humans.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

To hurt them.

[A]

Yeah, never. They would never do that. Never do that. Like greed to them is nothing. Like, they don't care about money, they don't care about profit.

[B]

They put neuralink in their brain to get rid of the greed.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

They said get rid of this greed feeling. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Speaking of greed, are you into Pokemon? The whole pokey pokey Pokemon? What do you call this little, little Peek of the Pikachu.

[B]

We need this generation to Pokemon Go to the polls.

[E]

Is that a thing?

[B]

Hillary Clinton did that when during her election. She's like, pokemon Go. We need this generation to Pokemon Go to the polls.

[C]

That would be a smart marketing thing for like the Democratic Party to like buy something from Pokemon Go and make like a high level Pokemon guy at a polling station. You can only get it, but it's inside.

[B]

Yeah, you still have to register and get inside.

[C]

That's genius. Someone should do that.

[A]

You have to catch like the politicians, like catch the Republicans.

[B]

They're all lizards.

[A]

But yeah, the Pokemon thing, I don't get it how these cards are like, I mean, they can sell for upwards of like millions of dollars.

[B]

Yeah, it's nuts.

[A]

But this one guy, he's doing it the right way.

[C]

Logan Paul.

[A]

No, not Logan Paul. He's buying this one Pokemon card that is worth nothing. It was like worth like seven bucks. And it's the Kabuto.

[B]

I don't know. You don't know caboodle.

[A]

But he's buying all first generation Caboodos and he currently has 1700 first edition Caboodos which he's already. Just by doing that, the supply and demand has raised and so he only has a hundred, like a couple hundred left to buy. And they said in theory he could have all these Kabuto cards, burn them all except one. And it would be the most priceless Pokemon card.

[B]

Just because it's, it's just there's only one left.

[A]

Yeah, the first edition.

[B]

Interesting.

[D]

Genius.

[A]

Pretty genius.

[D]

Have you, have you seen the guys who did the painting thing? Where they did. That's, that's the. Their business model is instead of selling a single painting, they would run a print. They would do a print of the original painting and then I forget how it works, but they sell them all and they, or they mix them up like the first edition. They mix it in like the thing of 100 and then they, they discount the price so they don't know who actually got the first edition.

[E]

Oh my God.

[D]

It's a, it's a way that they take one and then like duplicate the value and they continue to do that. So anyone could have a first edition. That's pretty cool run of the thing.

[C]

I like that.

[A]

Remember NFTs, those old things?

[B]

Dude, let me look.

[E]

Those old things.

[B]

You remember Ben Reed when he was obsessed with those?

[D]

He's always trying to get us to like get on an app so we could get them.

[B]

He told me.

[A]

I'm like, there's no way this is going to work. And it didn't. Oh, unless it's going to come back. I doubt it's going to come back.

[C]

I don't like it.

[A]

Like Logan Paul, he spent like millions of dollars on an NFT entity.

[C]

A lot of those guys.

[A]

It's just a digital piece of art.

[E]

I always thought that was so weird. I just don't understand.

[B]

In 2022, Ben Reed told me, he said, because I was making fun of him and he says in 10, he says, in 10 years, Andy, if I'm not a millionaire from my NFT, I will pay you $100. And I have a reminder in my Apple cloud in Ben Reed told me that if he's not a millionaire, he owes me $100.

[D]

That's funny.

[E]

That is so funny.

[A]

That's good.

[C]

You won't even need your phone then. That'll pop up in your neuralink. Yeah, exactly.

[E]

Just like, whoa.

[B]

It'll automatically transfer. That'll just. It's contract binding deducts from account.

[E]

I'll never forget. It was, like, during the same season that Doge was so big. I had so much, like, anxiety, but also, like, stoked on gambling. Like, gambling addiction.

[B]

I'm like, you had a gambling addiction?

[E]

It was all Doge related.

[B]

Just stocks.

[E]

Josh and I were like, we're gonna make so much specifically Doge only. And we're like.

[B]

Because we got on it so early.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, it was before the big craze of it.

[A]

It was so fun, though, because it was like, Elon would just like, tweet a picture.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

And Doge Price would go, what?

[E]

I know.

[A]

Like, please tweet something else.

[E]

I remember you, like, not sleeping. You did not sleep one night. You're like, we are literally. I have to stay up because it's gonna hit a dollar and then we're gonna be so rich.

[C]

What happened?

[A]

It never hit it all.

[D]

And you didn't sell.

[A]

Right.

[E]

I think he smoked weed on Joe Rogan or something. And then it all went down.

[A]

Elon Musk.

[E]

Yeah, Musk did. I'm sorry.

[B]

That's so funny.

[A]

Apparently, Joe Rogan said he. Elon got in trouble for that because he knows all these top secret things. And you can't be smoking weed or, like, at least not in public. You can't show that because, like, if you are someone that is. Has knowledge. Yeah. Security clearance stuff.

[C]

Whoa.

[A]

It's a big no.

[D]

No.

[B]

Yeah. So you have to have a stable mind.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Interesting. I didn't know that.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Yeah. Where do you draw the line, though?

[D]

That's what.

[B]

Caffeine. Yeah.

[A]

Caffeine's a drug.

[B]

Yes, it is.

[A]

Sugar's a drug.

[B]

100.

[E]

I was gonna talk about that Chris Fleming thing about how he got sober, because he was. But really he was just drinking margarita mix and he was like. And I would just get so. Just sugar high. It's a funny.

[B]

Chris Fleming is hilarious.

[E]

He's so funny.

[A]

Yeah. Speaking of the government.

[D]

Oh. What are they up to?

[A]

Here's a little fun tidbit. I try to look into it a little bit more. And of course, looking this up, this kind of stuff, you're going to kind of hit a little blockade a little.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

Run around.

[D]

Sure.

[A]

After World War II, there are only seven countries in the world that did not bank with the Rothschilds. Really?

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Or not. Have any kind of connection with the Rothschilds.

[B]

Where are they located?

[A]

Let me read a couple of them to you.

[B]

All right.

[A]

Cuba.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

Iran.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

North Korea.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

Russia.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Bolivia.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Syria.

[B]

So non war countries.

[A]

Correct.

[B]

Places that have had peace throughout the past hundred years.

[A]

People. Countries where the US has had no involvement in whatsoever.

[B]

Absolutely not. That's. Is that true?

[A]

That's a lit. That's. They. These bank systems in these countries have never worked with the Rothschilds after World War II.

[B]

Very interesting.

[A]

But also I'm like, well, what about China? And then they're like, yeah, of course China has never done that. But I'm like, maybe they have in some capacity.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, it would be hard not to.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, because there are a lot of things happening now with, like, Western corporations working within China.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so I don't know, but I just found that super strange.

[B]

Yeah, we got to dig into that because.

[A]

Well, it's hard to. I mean, you start looking into it and they're like, this. This is just kind of like a little, like, conspiracy. People talking about. It's like, what? Have these countries worked with the Rothschilds in any capacity? Like a Rothschild bank started by the Rothschilds.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

No. Interesting. So have we, as the US Gone to war with any of these countries or had them as enemies in any way?

[B]

Yes, sure.

[A]

It's just like, define enemy.

[E]

Oh, boy.

[A]

Yeah, it's weird.

[B]

That is very weird. And it's only those.

[A]

Yeah. As far as I could find.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

It's just weird because war never has anything to do with money. It's always, like, conviction and ethics and.

[A]

You're right.

[B]

Making peace.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

You never. People never profit off of war.

[B]

God, Lena, why would you.

[A]

This is actually crazy. This literally popped in my head. I was listening to the Jesse Michaels, Joe Rogan podcast on American Alchemy. Jesse Michaels interviewed someone or talked to someone, and they're talking about Dick Cheney. And the guy's like, the question was, is there someone or an organization within the US Government to where they are actively working on. I'm totally butchering this, but actively working on UAP technology and. Or life forms. Like, is there a name out there? And he thought this guy was just going to be like, blah, blah, blah. You know, somebody completely ran him.

[D]

Sure.

[A]

He said Dick Cheney was what? He was actually head of the organization within the US Government that was working on the UAP stuff while he was.

[B]

In the White House.

[E]

He was still doing stuff like. Like recently.

[A]

Yeah. Up until his death a couple weeks ago.

[E]

Months ago.

[A]

Months Ago.

[B]

Years. Josh. He's been dead for 30 years.

[A]

What?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

No, I found. I found that crazy.

[E]

Really weird. Wow. Interesting.

[B]

That guy knew his stuff, though, too.

[A]

Dick Cheney.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah, that's.

[A]

Have you ever seen the movie Vice?

[C]

No. Miami Vice or a different one?

[A]

No, it's Vice. It's. Christian Bale plays Dick Cheney.

[E]

So good. You should watch it.

[A]

It's very good. What happens in it just shows basically.

[E]

How much money he made off of the Iraqi war.

[C]

Oh, really?

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

But also just how, like, George Bush hired him. But Dick Cheney was really running the country. A lot of behind the scenes. He was making the calls and the decisions and where George Bush was doing a lot of the. I don't know, just even how you.

[A]

It's like being the face.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh.

[A]

Being the face of the government as Dick Cheney was basically running everything. Running the military, Running.

[D]

Allegedly.

[A]

Allegedly.

[D]

For entertainment purposes.

[B]

Allegedly for a fact.

[A]

Yeah. This is all. We're conspiracy podcasts, like, and also we're a comedy podcast, first and foremost. We're coming and we're joking about everything.

[D]

And it's a game show. Figure out which one is which.

[B]

And the points don't matter.

[A]

Points don't matter.

[B]

That's interesting. Yeah. It just makes you wonder. Like, it just as surprises you, like, who? It's just stuff like NASA. Like, these people are so respectable. They have the highest degrees. They're the smartest and intellectual people you could have, but yet they're putting so much time and energy into the spiritual realm. Yeah. And then you have guys like Dick Cheney who are the most powerful people in the world. Just dealing with UAPs and UFOs. Obviously it's worth looking into something. Yeah, it's weird.

[C]

I'll have to watch the movie.

[B]

You guys doing your own podcast over there or what?

[A]

Yeah, My head.

[E]

I unplugged my headphones. Andrew got. I didn't know. I didn't see that. It was right there. I could have done it myself.

[B]

Oh, yeah, right. I saw another do everything for you.

[A]

I saw another clip of NASA cutting the live feed.

[B]

Another one.

[A]

But it wasn't in outer space. It was someone talking.

[C]

Cutting. What do you say?

[A]

He was talking about the three Atlas comet. And he's like.

[D]

I.

[A]

He's like, he works for NASA. He's like, I wish we could have talked about. But, like, we weren't allowed to basically go on air and talk about stuff because of the government shutdown. And he's like, but it's such an amazing thing. Like, this comment that he says came down from the heavens. And then he said something like. And like, with. He's like, this was very exciting for us at NASA to just be able to study ancient life on Mars. And then it's like, it. And it cut. Oh, no, they cut it.

[D]

Who was talking Ancient life on Mars?

[A]

He said, ancient life on Mars.

[C]

That's crazy.

[A]

And then they cut. Was a live feed on, like, FOX News or something. Cnn. And like, oh, oh, I guess we lost him.

[B]

Was it. That was a NASA representative.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Or.

[A]

Yeah, he was from NASA talking.

[B]

That can't be by accident.

[C]

Someone check on him.

[E]

Yeah. What if the watchers descended upon the mountain on Mars or the watchers.

[B]

Oh, good question. How much time you got, Jake?

[C]

I don't know how much battery.

[E]

In the Bible it talks about in Genesis 6, you know, like the flood story.

[C]

No, like Noah's ark.

[E]

Yeah, no, the flood that angels basically, like Satan, Lucifer, deceived a third of the angels and they came down and then they multiplied with the women and made giants. Talks about that. And then the flood really was intended to wipe out that race. You guys take over.

[A]

Yeah. Genesis 6 tells the story where the sons of God, meaning, like the angels, came to Earth. They mated with the daughters of man and they produced the Nephilim giants, which were evil men that just like, would kill people, eat people. They're just terrorizing the world. And then you have the Book of Enoch. So Enoch would have been Noah's like, great, great, great grandfather. Something like that.

[D]

Something like that.

[A]

He's mentioned briefly in the Old Testament. Enoch is.

[B]

But also never died, which is.

[A]

He also never died.

[B]

God took him up. Which is the crazy thing. It's like. It's a significant thing for so many people in the Bible.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But we just gloss over that.

[E]

Yeah, well, you know, so weird about. It's like the Christian school that we went to, too. Like, we used to sing songs about Enoch being taken out, but then completely, like, skip over the fact that he had a whole book in the Dead Sea Scrolls that was found.

[A]

We're saying about Enoch being taken.

[E]

Yeah, him and Elijah.

[A]

The other one.

[B]

There were two afterthought.

[A]

But the Book of Enoch, which is not canonized in Scripture, but it has a lot of historical backing to it. In fact, they found a copy of the Book of Enoch in the Dead Sea Scrolls, which was that discovery in the 1940s.

[D]

I'm not sure.

[A]

70S.

[E]

It was the 40s.

[A]

40S where they found this cave. And it had all these ancient scrolls of scripture in them that were thousands of years Old. One of them was the Book of Enoch. The Ethiopian Orthodox, they have the Book of Enoch canonized in their Bible. But the Book of Enoch basically expounds upon the part in Genesis 6 where it talks about the sons of God meeting with the Daughters of Man, and they're referred to as the Watchers, where they descended upon Mount Hermon in the Middle east, and they basically made it with the Daughters of Man, produced the Nephilim. But it talks about these watchers giving man this heavenly knowledge, how to make weapons, pharmakeya, like, spells, all this crazy stuff. And so those are the Watchers, the.

[C]

Ones that gave them the knowledge.

[A]

Yeah, he's like angelic beings.

[C]

And then. So now they're on Mars, or they were on Mars.

[E]

No, I was just making a suggestion.

[C]

Oh, I thought you were relating that to the Mars.

[E]

Well, I was thinking Mars is a mountain. Right.

[A]

And it's like the biggest mountain in the solar system.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Mount Herman is not. No one really knows where Mount Hermon is. Right?

[A]

They do. Oh, because remember we talked about. Because the UN built a tower.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Okay, onward.

[A]

Anyways, that's the Watchers.

[C]

Okay, on that note, do you guys know the influencer, Leo Skeppy? He has a podcast. Leo Skeppy. I'll send them to you guys. He has this podcast called Aware and Aggravated. And he's so popular because he's so unique. He's a bald.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

He's jacked guy. And he's like, hello. He has a crazy voice and he just. He's huge.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

He has like 5 million. Have you seen him?

[E]

No. Show me a picture, Andy.

[C]

He has, like 5 million followers, crazy voice. And the other day he made a video where he was like, I'm feeling this calling to read the Bible.

[A]

I saw that.

[C]

Yeah. It's so cool.

[A]

And he's going through it and he's reading it.

[C]

I know. And that he's so. He's gay, but he doesn't. He makes videos. Like, don't associate me with, like, pride parades and stuff. He's just gay, and that's what it is. But he doesn't. He says he doesn't make it. His personality, I guess, but he probably has a lot of gay followers. I would assume it's pretty cool that someone like him is reading the Bible and showing that. When I would assume a lot of people who are gay his age maybe have contempt towards Christianity or the Bible because they feel like it has pushed them out.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Not for them. But now this guy who's a huge positive influence in a lot of people's life is like bringing it to light. And maybe he's probably bringing a lot of people to the Bible and church and God just by showing this. That's really cool.

[A]

His commentary is super fun too. Well, he's like, this is crazy stuff.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

This Jesus guy nuts.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

That's probably what it takes though, to get a lot of people who are chronically online to understand it and get into. I think that's cool.

[A]

Yeah, I think it's rad.

[B]

I saw some. Some girl just did a, like a gossip style verses for like audio Bible for the book. A Bible.

[D]

Oh.

[B]

And it's just like, so there's this guy, he's Peter. He loves Jesus, but sometimes he doesn't act like it. And so it's like, just like, like you're sharing stories with your friends and stuff and like, this is perfect.

[A]

Speaking of perfect, I want to talk about Chernobyl.

[B]

Oh, okay. So funny. While we're at Thanksgiving, my. My niece, who's like 13 years old, she's like, have you guys ever heard of, I think it was like, Chernobyl or something like that? And me and my sister look at each other, we're like, no, what is it? And she's like, it happened like really close to here. And it's like, she's like, you guys never heard of Chernobyl? And it's like, no, tell us about it. And so she's explaining it and me and Paige have, like, are obsessed with the HBO series, so we know everything, all the things, and it's just the way she was explaining was so stinking funny.

[A]

That is so funny. But yeah, there's this new life form at Chernobyl.

[C]

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Great.

[B]

For the first time in my life, I'm drinking coffee with just creamer, no sugar. I used to, like put like 3 tablespoons of sugar in my coffee every morning.

[E]

Got sugar in it, though.

[B]

I got very, very low sugar creamer now.

[E]

Good for you.

[B]

It's like 10 calories.

[A]

You should just get really fancy coffee and then do just black.

[B]

I just don't know how to do fancy coffee.

[A]

Chemex. I'll show you.

[E]

I put eggnog in my coffee this morning.

[B]

That sounds good.

[E]

Festive.

[B]

I love promised Land eggnog. Oh, it's like so. It's like a thousand calories a bottle though.

[D]

Dumb.

[B]

That's where they get you in Kansas. They have Highland milk.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

And they do like the tiny jugs of chocolate milk. Cute, dude. It's like 800 calories a bottle. Looked at. I was like, I used to chug those like in the morning when I was there. I was like, I had to break it up throughout the week.

[C]

Dude, learning up, learning about calories helps you lose weight like crazy. I just started researching them and just like looking up what I was eating and I was like, oh, my goodness. I'm doing a thousand calories for breakfast every morning. No problem.

[B]

Yeah. Calories in, calories out.

[E]

That's good that you eat breakfast. What do you eat for breakfast?

[C]

I like eggs. I like potatoes, unfortunately. Like anything potato y. I love that. Panda bonos. I didn't realize I've been eating terribly this year for how much the Indian food series has brought me success. It's brought me a lot of weight too. I ate Indian buffets so much and it's so potatoey and so caloric and I just eat so much food. And if I eat a big lunch, I ate a big dinner, then I eat a big breakfast the next morning and then I keep doing it. And the time we ate Indian buffet with y'. All. I ate Indian food five days in a row that week and I just gained so much weight this year. Didn't realize how bad I was eating. Not it was pretty like whole food stuff, but it's not like McDonald's but I mean a lot of food and a lot of semi fried stuff that I was convincing myself was not fried and was good for me.

[B]

Look at Indian people, they're not that heavy. So it makes you wonder is that we're just like Americanizing it. We're just eating it so much. I don't know.

[C]

You're right.

[E]

It's very nutritionally dense, their food. Yeah. I love Indian foods. Like my favorite. I love it.

[D]

That's so.

[A]

They're not. You get it.

[D]

It doesn't count if you don't keep it in.

[A]

Have you seen that guy in India? I see it. It pops up in my algorithm at least once a week. It's this big steel drum thing and it's just hot oil. And he puts an egg in it and he mixes it in the hot oil with his finger.

[B]

Yeah, I've seen this.

[A]

And this egg comes out black.

[C]

It's disgusting.

[A]

It's like he's mixing in motor oil. Dude.

[C]

The worst that and usually Instagram videos of anything to do with India are really bad. So I get real Indian people in real life coming up to me and being like, thank you for shining a positive light on our people. They really come up and say that because all the Instagram reels videos are bad.

[A]

They show like the worst sides. Speaking of the worst side, did you know that it's a question corner.

[B]

Question corner. Question corner with la where the questions are fresh on our mind Again.

[E]

Jump scare. I keep forgetting this is my time to shine.

[B]

We've only done it a couple times though.

[E]

Okay. This is not like some kind of ginormous questions everybody fill out.

[B]

Lower your expectations.

[E]

Would you rather be gifted $5 million?

[B]

I'll take it.

[D]

Yep.

[E]

Or for the next year, you get $100,000 for every marathon that you complete in under 24 hours.

[B]

Say that last one again.

[E]

For the next year, you are gifted $100,000 for every marathon that you run in under 24 hours.

[A]

So you'd have to run how many marathons? 50. 50 marathons in a year? No way.

[D]

Just give me the five marathon a week.

[C]

5 million.

[E]

That was really quick math.

[D]

I'm physically incapable of doing that.

[A]

Thanks. It took me like five simple math.

[B]

But I think it took me five hours to do a half marathon. So it's like. I don't.

[A]

I mean that could be your full time job though.

[B]

If all I do is just walk.

[A]

A marathon once a week, you could.

[C]

Get $5 million and then have another full time job and do whatever you want. No problem. Not up to run a marathon once a week.

[A]

True.

[E]

$5 million is life changing.

[B]

If I did one.

[A]

If you didn't, we then that you're only making $5.2 million.

[D]

That's what I'm saying. Yeah. You're barely Beating it.

[A]

Ask me another math question.

[D]

I think I got this.

[B]

You can only understand when it's in running form. That makes no sense. You hate running.

[E]

I would take the $5 million too, just so you guys know.

[B]

Yeah. I feel like that's the easiest question ever, though. I mean, if it was like a. It was. If it was a million dollars, even like five or half a million dollars, I feel like that would be.

[E]

We could do.

[B]

I'd be tempting. Half a million dollars.

[D]

Or if you get rid of the 24 hour bit, like, if it's just per the amount of marathons. Because if you were like, all right, you have to do a half marathon every morning, then you're able. Like, you double your numbers and it becomes, like, a healthier thing. And then maybe you could.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

You're just, like, walking everywhere.

[D]

Yeah. You get. There's no time constraint or something like that.

[E]

So, like. Okay, so if we ask, like, how many marathons you do in a year without a time constraint, how. Where are you at on your, like, Lord of the Rings walk?

[D]

I'm. I haven't. It hasn't changed. It hasn't changed. But I'm 100 miles. I've been 100 miles ahead of them for quite a while. Like, I'm not gaining, but I'm coming.

[B]

Yeah. The deer was the motivation.

[D]

Yeah. And now. Now that Noah is almost here, I'm kind of not spending every day in the woods.

[B]

Slow and steady, baby.

[D]

I did just get access to another property, though, so I want to get out there.

[E]

Maybe you can get off roading stroller.

[D]

I want to get one of those, like, tactical baby carriers.

[E]

We have one. You want it? Did we give it to Taylor.

[A]

Give your baby a gun.

[D]

Yep.

[B]

It can help you.

[A]

You can be the tree stand.

[D]

He's the quiver.

[B]

You are the tree stand. Become the tree stand.

[C]

What's your challenge again? What's the Lord of the Rings thing you told me last time?

[A]

It's walking from the Shire to Mordor. And so it just tracks your daily steps and it shows the map. It's called Fantasy Hike.

[B]

It's fun.

[C]

Do they offer a bunch of different, like, movie or different ones? Or is it.

[B]

There are different. There are different apps and stuff. Only this app is for, like, the mortal.

[A]

So it's like, it shows you the map, you know, and then it goes, like, where you currently are.

[E]

Where are you?

[A]

I'm in the wilderness. The land is cheerless and gloomy it.

[B]

Says we should make one, but it's all Bible characters and it's the journey of the Bible characters. Like, you're currently being persecuted in Rome right now.

[E]

Oh, no, no.

[B]

I'm gonna run. I gotta get out of here. That would actually be fun. Like the mission of like, Paul and stuff. That'd be so what you should do.

[A]

That's so cool.

[C]

That would's funny.

[A]

That would be fun.

[E]

Dude.

[D]

Congrats, Josh. You beat me last in the last seven days.

[E]

Oh. Oh, you guys. If I was on yells app. You can be y' all I now. But y' all would be smushed wrong. It's because I've got little bird steps. Josh and I will go on the same walk and I'll have 500 more steps than he does.

[D]

It's mileage.

[B]

You're like one of those sandpipers on the beach. Those ones that you can't even see their legs moving.

[C]

I got something. Oh, it's a quick something.

[A]

Let's hear it.

[C]

Speaking of the Bible is funny. I went to Yalls live show the Florida Torta about that in a while. Amazing. That was the best comedy show I've ever been to, you guys. Improv was hilarious. Like right in the first minute, this lady in the front had mushrooms and Andy made the mushrooms a part of the whole entire, like, comedy show. So funny.

[B]

That was just me just trying to like, create like make it me wanting a snack, but just like, how can I make this funny, though?

[D]

Yeah, yeah, we gotta really good. We gotta clarify it.

[A]

Non psychedelic. Yeah.

[D]

What kind?

[C]

Oh, yeah, sorry.

[E]

Mushroom at a restaurant.

[B]

This is funny, right?

[C]

It was like a comedy show with food.

[A]

That's why he dressed up like an Oompa Loompa.

[B]

I wasn't an Oompa.

[E]

Everyone's so big.

[C]

He did dress up. It was incredible. That was a good show. They should go on a worldwide tour. At least nationwide or I don't know, maybe like those seven banned countries on that list or whatever that aren't banking for Roth tr. Let's go to each one of those.

[B]

Start our own bank.

[C]

The Florida daughter.

[E]

Thanks, Jake. They want to run it back, but Josh is not.

[A]

We're in the same boat.

[E]

I know.

[C]

It aged you. Maybe not to joke if I this, but maybe a few more EDPM sessions and you can do it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Was it? Is that what you're going to say?

[C]

Yeah. Sorry. But I loved it. It was so good. Thanks for inviting me. And I loved it. It was an incredible show.

[B]

You were there for the last one, right?

[C]

Yeah. You guys can crushed.

[A]

That was my favorite one.

[B]

It was a dude that whole thing was a dream.

[A]

Yeah. I'm not bashing on the other ones, but that one was my favorite because it was the last one.

[B]

Last one. It was close. It was a really clean club. They ran it well. I did throw up. You felt the best, I think. And it was smooth.

[D]

I like the first one, too. It was like. Exactly. It was just perfect. It was. It felt like kind of like an experience that you're supposed to have when you're getting into this.

[A]

Ramada.

[D]

Yeah. At the Ramada.

[A]

Ramada.

[B]

Ramadan.

[D]

Tampa was just hard because that high ceiling. It's such a cool venue, but I couldn't hear Jack. Like, I remember walking off and telling my wife.

[A]

We thought the audience was not laughing at us because we couldn't hear. But everyone I talked to after, like, everyone was dying, laughing the whole time. But it felt like. Yeah, it was just quiet.

[D]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

And that's where I started getting a panic attack on stage. I'm like, people hate know somebody left. I, like, was literally talking. I had a sweater. I'm like, I'm taking my clothes off.

[D]

I'm getting hot.

[B]

Your family's just disgraced. And just, like, they get up and leave.

[C]

No.

[B]

Come back.

[E]

Yeah, From Tampa. Shout out to that. Those people that I thought were a couple, but they were brother and sister.

[B]

Wait, what? I think I missed this.

[E]

It was like, they were both super tall and, like, Scottish and stuff like that. And I'm like, are you guys worried that you might be cousins? I said something like that because they were, like, from the same area, I guess. And they're like, that's not a problem because we're brother and sister. And I'm like, whoa. Foot and mouth thought you were married to each other.

[C]

That's funny.

[A]

Speaking of funny.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

It's Andrew's turn.

[B]

Drop that, drop that. Drop the beat. Yeah, we gotta drop.

[A]

Speaking of funny. Drop that beat, Lil.

[E]

What?

[B]

Oh, yeah. Drop a beat.

[E]

No. Don't make me.

[B]

You have to.

[D]

No.

[B]

Jake will help you.

[E]

No. Take. You do it.

[A]

You join in.

[E]

I'm not doing anything like that.

[D]

You can't beatbox.

[C]

No.

[B]

Yes.

[D]

You try.

[E]

I'm begging you.

[A]

Boom check, boom check, boom bop.

[E]

Don't make me. I'm sweating down my back now. Stop.

[B]

Thanks, Lil.

[E]

Why didn't we have a song?

[A]

Because it's a different soundboard.

[D]

You're gonna have to play this as soon as it gets to your phone. Because it gives it away.

[A]

Give it away, give it away, give it away now.

[D]

Who needs toenail clippers?

[E]

Oh, no.

[A]

Can't do this again. All right, ready?

[C]

Wait.

[A]

Oh, gosh.

[C]

Ready?

[A]

Three, two, one.

[C]

Bro.

[D]

Andrew.

[E]

Is it gonna come off? No.

[C]

Oh, satisfying.

[B]

Dude, I have to start. I have to figure out, you know.

[A]

People are really mad at you.

[D]

I love it.

[A]

Oh, people are really mad at you about these videos.

[B]

Really?

[E]

And people is.

[C]

Lily. I'm hungry, dude.

[B]

I can't. What is up? Can't handle this anymore.

[A]

Maybe you're pregnant.

[B]

I'm pregnant. Oh, my gosh.

[E]

Why are his toes looking like that?

[D]

That's a better question. Yeah, I don't know.

[C]

He's doing the Lord of the Rings walking. He's almost there.

[E]

He needs to rock some flip flops more often. Let those things breathe. Dude.

[C]

Is that what happens when. Is that. Why?

[E]

I don't know.

[A]

Maybe they breathe too much. Yeah, that was like breathing for a while.

[B]

Yeah, I didn't.

[D]

I didn't have a real. Forget about that segment, so.

[C]

Pulled that out of you just had that?

[D]

Yeah, I have a folder of like, there's like a bunch of mid ones that I haven't used. Backups. Yeah, a little.

[E]

That has to hurt, right? That hurts.

[D]

I mean, look pretty dead.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah, but you could feel it. Speaking of dead, you guys made this shirt, the clanker shirt. And I asked him off air. I was like, is clanker a bad word? It's not a bad word. It's just a fun word to use. You guys ever get those feelings? Like, I'll see an Instagram video of a delivery robot downtown or any like, robot in real life, and all I can think about is taking a shotgun, blowing his clanker head right off. Feels so good. It's like cathartic to think about just imagining a giant. Sorry, a giant shot. I don't know, it just feels good for me to like, think about shooting a robot. That's integrating too much into my real life.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

Brings me peace and joy.

[B]

That would be a fun bit to do, like own like some land and open it up for like a shooting range. And it's just like drones. Drones. And that's all you do is just training. Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Take yourself out on this modern world. That'd be like an escape room, but for. Not for that at all, actually, but kind of in a way. Shooting robots and drones, or they have.

[B]

Paintball zombie, like, rides where you like, you ride in the back of a bus and you just have a paintball gun. You shoot the zombies. But it's like people dressed up as robots.

[A]

That would be fun.

[B]

Have like a full theme.

[E]

How do you get. How do you hire people to just be shot by paintballs?

[B]

They did. They do it. I mean, people do it for, like, zombie. Like, they actually have, like, that and like, for attractions and stuff, where it's like you just. You rent and you sign up, you pay for the paintball gun rental and everything like that. And you just go back and they're padded up and stuff. But it's like, it would be brutal.

[D]

I hate it.

[B]

It's a legit thing.

[A]

It hurts it well. And it's like, if I get hit.

[D]

There'S a rage that I'm not mad until I get hit. And then I'm mad. But then they say, all right, go sit on the bench. I'm like, no, I'm ready to kill somebody now, because I just got hit. I can't. Like, it's weird to be switched on when you have to leave the course.

[A]

They used to have a course in Orlando. Orlando paintball. And I went there all the time growing up. Like, we do birthday parties and stuff. There's. And there's one time where these guys came in and they froze their paintballs. Oh, yeah. Purposely froze their paintballs. And they shot my dad in the finger and his nail went, oh, just like that video. Just like the video.

[C]

Good tie in.

[E]

Your dad would play it with you. That's so fun.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, we'd just bring a whole bunch of guys out there. I was so little, too. Just getting lit up by grown men.

[B]

Reliving Vietnam.

[A]

They get shot right in the throat one time.

[B]

The worst.

[C]

Like, I had.

[D]

I think I've told the story on the pod I had. We were. It was like youth group and our youth group versus another, and the youth. I got scared. Everyone, like, ran off and I locked down, like, underneath a fallen tree. And they run over the top, and he's using the tree as bunker. The other youth groups, youth pastor, tall dude, so his chin thing only, like, goes down so far. Leans over the log, and I'm too scared. You're supposed to say, like, you know.

[B]

You flat surrender or die.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I literally just. I'm like seventh grade. I literally just turn like this. I'm in full camo, like, underneath bushes and just point blank and hit him.

[B]

That's horrible.

[A]

I was like, I'm scared he's gonna.

[D]

Shoot me if I let him know he's here.

[C]

Did he kick you out of the youth group?

[D]

No, he was the other guy, so he wasn't my church, so he just. He deserved it.

[B]

We are at church Camp. And we were playing it, and that's the whole rule. You get, like, within, like, an arm's reach. You say, surrender or die. And if you move at all, you have full permission to shoot. I'm playing. I'm one of the youth pastors, and there's, like, this seventh grade kid that come up, sneaks up behind me, puts it right near my arm, right there and just shoots it. There was a scar, and instantly just blood starts rushing down. He shot me twice. And I turn around, and everything in me, I'm just like, do I go to prison right now? I looked at him and I was just like, that's not how you play the game, bud. Oh, man.

[D]

My brother tells the story. He got, like, super into paintball and shout out. Adam Mills, a dude in our hometown. Another guy, worked in another church. But anyways, he ran out of, like, dumped his hopper on accident and was like, I'm out. He asked my brother, they're playing speedball. Like, you know the narrow, like, inflatable and pallet type course?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

He's like, I don't have any more. Like, I can't give you extra. So for the. For the flex. Unscrews the barrel on the gun, sets the gun down, and literally just runs the course and flanks the whole course. Barrel tapping people out. Literally eliminated the entire other team. Just like, dodging.

[C]

That's cool.

[D]

Yeah. Pretty nuts.

[A]

Speaking of barrel tapping.

[D]

Hello.

[A]

Chernobyl.

[B]

Chernobyl.

[D]

Chernotable.

[E]

Speaking about reactive cores and granite.

[A]

What is it?

[E]

It's not granite. What's in the middle of it?

[A]

Nucleus. What is it?

[E]

Those are countertops.

[A]

You're right. I don't know. But anyways, we all know the story of Chernobyl, the giant nuclear meltdown in mother Russia.

[D]

Mm.

[B]

Ukraine.

[A]

Ukraine.

[E]

Was it in Ukraine?

[A]

Yeah, it was the USSR at the time, but killed a lot of people, actually. How many people did it kill? They evacuated this city. Terrible.

[E]

Immediately. It killed very few, but.

[A]

Which, if you watch. Have you seen the Chernobyl show?

[C]

No.

[A]

Oh, it's rough.

[C]

Is it a documentary?

[B]

It's a miniseries.

[A]

Yeah, it's a. Yeah, miniseries.

[D]

Hbo.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Really good, but really creepy. Like these dudes that got the radiation poisoning and stuff. Oh, yuck. They just melt.

[C]

Oh.

[A]

Anyways, there's something growing in Chernobyl, and I don't know if we talked about this, because I saw. I'm like, I think we talked about this. I don't think we did.

[B]

Yeah. It's not the elephant foot or whatever it's called.

[A]

No.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

It's a black fungus that's growing in Chernobyl and it's insane. So I'm not even going to attempt to say what this fungus is called. I'll attempt it. Claudiosporium Safari Serium.

[B]

Nailed it. That's it.

[A]

Very close.

[E]

I knew her in high school.

[A]

It's a fungi.

[D]

Did I say that?

[B]

It's also a spell.

[A]

Yeah, but it contains melanin, like in our skin. And what it's doing is this fungi is growing rapidly around anything that has radioactive material, and it's literally eating the radioactive material, absorbing it, and turning it into clean energy.

[E]

Hey.

[A]

So it's a good thing we've never witnessed. Yeah, it's a good thing. Well, as far as we know. But we've never witnessed anything like this in nature. To where it's this fungi, newly discovered. Yeah, that is literally. It's. But they're saying of how creepy it is, they actually call it some nicknames. The Reactor Shadow, because it, like, literally looks like a shadow coming from the reactor, but it's pitch black. Black fungi, or the Black Hunger is what they call it.

[B]

That's a good name.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Creepy.

[A]

But what it does is this fungi. It grows towards radiation. It grows faster in higher radiation, repairs its own DNA damage extremely well, and uses radiation for energy.

[B]

So it's literally feeding itself.

[A]

Yeah. But what's crazy is NASA is now using it for experiments for potentially shielding spacecraft with this black fungi.

[B]

Whoa.

[A]

Because they've been testing it on the International Space Station, and it actually thrives in space.

[B]

No.

[D]

Okay, that's weird, dude.

[B]

This is like the literal plot to, like, alien. This is crazy.

[A]

They said it does way better in space than it does on Earth because all the radiation in space. But they're talking about lining shuttles, lining astronaut suits with this black fungi because it literally absorbs radiation and turns it into energy.

[B]

A living organism being used within suits and stuff.

[E]

Dude. What's it do when it mixes with people, though? I mean, I just.

[B]

That's what I. Yeah. Last of Us comes right out of your chest.

[E]

Fungus and people. Ever since I watched Last of Us, like, I won't even. I haven't touched a mushroom.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Since I watched Last of Us because I'm scared it's going to go in my brain.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. So I thought that was insane. Or they're just like. But they're like, well, this can't just appear out of nowhere. And so they're speculating that this is actually an ancient fungi. And at some point on Earth, like, when you would call, like the Younger Dryas or like something like where there was a giant meteor that hit and it ruined the ozone. All this stuff that this fungi actually was flourishing and actually brought the Earth back to its normal state because it absorbed all the radiation.

[B]

This fun guy's flourishing.

[A]

Nice. I thought that was crazy, though.

[B]

That is wild.

[A]

The pictures of it are super creepy, though. I mean, you just look it up.

[D]

Say that again.

[C]

Audio Fungular.

[B]

I'm just thinking of us typing in the thing that you said. Oh, yeah, we'll just type it in.

[A]

What did I say?

[B]

The actual technical name for.

[A]

Just type in.

[E]

Black Hunger fungus.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Or the Reactor Shadow or BHF for short.

[B]

But speaking of Chernobyl, look at these photos I'm sending you guys. This is blue. Dogs are showing up outside of Chernobyl.

[C]

Really?

[B]

Within the. Within the reaction zone.

[E]

Wow.

[D]

What's with that?

[A]

Dog's eyes, though?

[E]

Yeah, they look good.

[D]

That's a tough.

[C]

As of recent. Wow.

[B]

Yeah, this year they've been showing up.

[C]

That just looks like someone spray painted it.

[E]

I was gonna say this is A.I.

[B]

No, this is real. This is like legitimate news. They're just showing up within that. Within the Chernobyl site.

[E]

Wow.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

The tests that are coming out of the Chernobyl area are insane. With like, animals and plants that are literally grown to adapt and thrive off the radiation in the area.

[D]

I wonder if it's. Remember the meat that was turning blue? It was rat poison. I wonder if that. If they're doing something to control stuff in there too.

[E]

Nuts. You know those babushkas that just, like, still live near the reactor?

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

They just never moved out of their homes. Nuts. I think about them all the time, actually.

[C]

What are they doing?

[E]

Living. They just never wanted to leave their homes.

[C]

So they're okay?

[E]

I think they're okay for the most part.

[A]

It's just these old ladies.

[E]

I wonder if, like, I mean, radiation is entirely environmental, but if some people can have a genetic composition that allows them to not get radioactive.

[A]

Or what if that black fungus is now part of them?

[E]

Part of them. And then they crawl on all fours on their roofs. Why does space have a lot of radiation?

[C]

I was gonna ask that too.

[E]

Well, the sun.

[A]

Yeah, the sun. Yeah, the sun. And there's just radiation all over. There's the. Those radiation belts outside of Earth called the Van Allen Belt belts.

[E]

That's really good.

[C]

Mad, mad thing.

[E]

You did great.

[B]

Help me take care of it.

[A]

Why don't you tell us why there's a lot of variation in space well.

[B]

Why don't you say the name of the fungus? Try it.

[E]

I thought he did great.

[A]

Oh, thank you.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

What does the Van Halen belt do?

[A]

The Van Allen belts.

[E]

Van Halen is even better.

[A]

No, it's just these. It's literally just these radiation belts around Earth. And that's like, one of the things that people say that we never went to the moon because it's literally impossible for any electronics or a human being to go through these radiation belts.

[C]

We didn't make them, did we? Are. They're natural where.

[A]

They are natural, but there's a point where we're actually shooting off nuclear weapons in, like, the 50s or something in space, and they're saying it actually made them stronger, at least for a time.

[D]

Huh.

[A]

It's weird.

[C]

That's kind of crazy.

[A]

Weird stuff.

[B]

Very strange.

[A]

Speaking of weird stuff, I do have something else. Oh, you like water?

[C]

Love water. Unless it's an acronym.

[B]

When's your last.

[C]

Having flashbacks for Lily?

[E]

Yeah. Where was your last jump?

[C]

Um, I have to tell you guys something.

[E]

Oh.

[C]

Since I've gotten better and better hair, I jump in the water less. Cause I. I made a video about this, but I always. I never got it as a kid. And women would be like, I don't want to get in the pool. I don't want to get my hair wet. I'm like, shut up. Get in the pool. This is crazy. But I get it now. It's a pain to have my hair dry. Like, it takes two hours to dry my hair, and it gets my clothes all wet. I don't jump in the water as much as I used to.

[B]

Beauty comes at a cost.

[C]

It does. It's crazy. I understand women. And I have a girlfriend, and I see her routines and the stuff she does. I wake up, take a shower some days and go. In the world, women have to wake up, put on makeup, take off their makeup, put on this, that. Do this, clip their toenails, shave their legs. It's crazy how much stuff women do to get ready just in daily life. Good job, woman. You guys do a lot, and we appreciate it. I say that to say I haven't jumped in the water in a while. Just for fun.

[B]

You need a pocket swim cap. Like, just one in your pocket all the time. You just swim.

[C]

Well, my head's giant. And those swim caps still seep through all the.

[B]

Do a Walmart sack or something.

[C]

Big bag.

[B]

Yeah, With a rubber band.

[C]

I could do that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We get like, one of those, like, really old school scuba tanks.

[C]

Oh, the head thing. I like that. I could do that.

[B]

Well, her style.

[C]

Last time I jumped in the water. I don't even know. Maybe that's sad. Probably. It is sad.

[B]

Just what about, you know, I can notice a change in you.

[C]

I know. Smell it on me too.

[B]

Do pools count? Pools count, right?

[C]

Yeah. I need just jumping in the water. Not a shower. Bath could count if you really need it to. Yeah.

[B]

But yeah, hot tub. You got to jump into the tub.

[C]

Don't have to necessarily jump.

[B]

Doesn't count as a JPD then.

[C]

Actually it does. Okay, well, the jump just kind of.

[D]

Okay, so how like submerged do you.

[C]

Need to get up to your neck?

[E]

Like.

[B]

That'S a rule now. As of with your hair rule, I.

[C]

Didn'T make up jbd. It's a whole science thing. I just popularized it.

[B]

Well, you need to do your own, like, brochure. Like people can buy. Like, it's like a step by step guide on how to like increase your JPD or something.

[E]

I need rules.

[A]

That almost sounded like a theological debate of baptism. Well, how submerged do you have to get up to your neck?

[B]

Okay, you're making this up.

[C]

I'll look into it more. There's a book I reference about it, so I'll read some of the. I haven't read the whole thing. I'll read a little bit more into it and get back to you guys on episode one.

[B]

That'd be a good, like audio podcast or audiobook that you do. Like, you collect stories of your JPD's and your stories with people and their stories while you, like in the story, like how you went, like how you got to the lake or the ocean or something like, and what surrounded that. I just want to hear you narrate a book.

[E]

True.

[C]

I want to do that. I want to be an audiobook guy.

[B]

You could do easily.

[C]

Do you have any contacts in the industry?

[B]

I mean, we have one guy that reached out to us, but it was like this big, like, I feel like it was like sci fi fantasy novel. And it was. We just. We were in the middle of all doing all of our stuff and he was needing to drop it. But it was like a lot of like difficult names to like pronounce and stuff. And I'm like, I don't know if we're gonna be good at this. It would be so fun. Yeah, he loves our show, but it's just one of those things where I was like, probably not right now. We can't do it.

[E]

But it would have been so we can't pronounce Anything.

[C]

Thing.

[B]

I know.

[A]

Yeah. We also talked to Joel Metamale in Nashville. I'm like, you should let us do your audio book. And he's like, all right. I could entertain that. And it's like. But the joke would be we mispronounce everything. Like, we would. And then he would just be in the background, be like, no, it's this, how you say it.

[E]

That's so funny.

[A]

And he's like, just give it a shot. And he handed me his book. And literally the first word I read, I'm like, I for sure read this. Correct. And he's like, you totally mispronounced just one word.

[B]

But then. But I was like, that's the conversation that needs to happen within the audiobook. What just happened?

[E]

That's funny. He does his own books, right? He. Yeah, he did his last book.

[A]

Yeah. This lake. Oh, sorry. Go ahead.

[C]

I just remembered a jpd. I had the best JPD jump of the summer. I was in Lake Tahoe, and we. Someone invited me to, like, a rave and their cabin, and it was like a big techno thing, and there was wristband and stuff. I don't know. It's cool. And then after that, it was like 12 midnight, full moon, and we all jumped in Lake Tahoe and got in, and this girl tried to have us do a breathing exercise. I didn't do that. I was like, I'm barely living right now. I can't do a breathing exercise, too. You know what? She was the wife of the guy from Free Solo. Alex Hormozy? Yeah, he got. I was with him all summer. Free Solo guy.

[D]

What?

[C]

He goes to the same place I go in Lake Tahoe.

[B]

Crazy.

[C]

That might not be public information, but, yeah, he was there all summer.

[E]

Oh, my gosh. We loved his documentary.

[C]

Yeah, I watched it. I didn't know that. I've been going there for, like, three years, and he was just next to me, and I didn't know he was famous. And then someone told me, that's cool.

[A]

That's super cool.

[C]

They're really nice. His wife's super cool. She's like. Like super healthy, fun lady. I don't know.

[B]

They're awesome, but you don't listen to her.

[C]

Yeah, well, breathing. It was really cold. I'm from Florida. They're used to more. They're Westerners or Northerners or something. I can't do all that. I was just surviving. Yeah, it was cool, dude. I was gonna say something that was illegal, but you should jump in the water at night and cool places that are clear Water. It's fun.

[A]

Dark water.

[B]

Dark water.

[E]

That's another Chris Fleming joke. He's like, if we're ever going night swimming. And I'm like, this freaking out. He's like, if I'm not saying anything. Totally freaking out. And they're like, why? He's like, dark water. I feel the same way.

[A]

Dark water is scary.

[B]

So terrifying. That's why I was that. You see my jump into the Tennessee pond that one time, how I was so easy into it because I was like. I was like, I do not want it. I'm like, there's. There's limbs, there's. Who knows what's under here? People are just jumping in. I'm like, I've heard horror stories of like, people just messing around. And then it's like, oh, he gets impaled or something.

[D]

There's like a source.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Like, I just need to know.

[B]

At least.

[D]

I've lost too many lures to bikes underwater to like. Yeah. I waited to watch an area where someone else hit the wall water and then moved. And I was like, all right, that's a. That's a jump spot.

[B]

Just see me floating up.

[D]

Sorry, go ahead.

[C]

Your podcast.

[A]

No, no, go.

[C]

I have a dark water horror story that's really scary.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[C]

Okay. Have you guys ever been to fau? The college in Boca Raton?

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

No.

[C]

Well, it's a college in Boca Raton, and there's a canal that goes around it kind of a lot of the parts. And I fished it before. One of my friends, Holden, used to go there, and my brother went there and I would fish there and very like tannic dark water, like blackwater canal. My friend who snook fishes, a lot of snook fishing happens at night. He went there on like a really cold October night, and he had just got this brand new pair of sunglasses he was wearing around his neck. But it was dark, obviously. It was like 12am at night or 12pm at night. He drops the glasses and the water into this blackwater canal. Coldest night of the year. He's like, I just bought these. I'm a broke college kid. I have to go swimming and get them. He gets in this pitch black water at night, swims around, starts feeling on the bottom for the glasses, grabs a wrist.

[D]

No shot.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Nuh.

[C]

Yes. And he was like, it's got to be a gar or something. It was a wrist. They found out. He found out like a week later. A girl had just gone missing on the FAU campus two days before that.

[E]

That was on purpose. God knocked his sunglasses into that. That pond.

[D]

But did he report it or are we like breaking. We shouldn't be breaking right now.

[C]

He didn't report it. He was really freaked. He told me that story when we were fishing at night on top of a bridge and it scared the sht out of me.

[E]

Oh, he should have told somebody though, because what if their mom. If her mom wants to know where she is?

[C]

Maybe. I think they found her.

[E]

Oh, they did.

[C]

I think they found. I don't know. I don't think you told anybody though. I think they did find her.

[B]

Dude, I'd never sleep again.

[C]

I know. I couldn't deal with that. I could not deal with that.

[B]

No, I would never grab anything ever. For the rest, just chop off my fingers. I don't want to feel grabbing anything. Oh, wrist.

[C]

Gosh, dude, he's the only one out there. You're like, like. And like, there's no one there. There's no one around. Just pitch black cold water. And you have wrist.

[B]

You ever got the glasses?

[C]

I don't think so, no.

[E]

Oh my God. Did he catch any snow?

[D]

Wow.

[C]

No.

[B]

Dang, no.

[A]

Snuck.

[B]

Just. Only nightmares.

[C]

Yep, caught a nightmare.

[A]

Well, speaking of a lake that you don't want to jump in or swim in.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

The Devil's Lake in Wisconsin, of course. Have you ever heard of the Devil's Lake?

[D]

I have not.

[A]

Neither have I. Never until this week. This lake has everything, really. And it's fascinating that I've never heard of this lake.

[C]

What like bass, pike, pickerel? What kind of everything?

[A]

Dead giants.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Leviathan.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Serpents. All right, everything. So the Devil's Lake in Wisconsin in the Baraboo Range. This lake is cut off from any other body of water. It's literally in the mountains. It's a glacial. Glacial runoff. So now it's just this deep, ancient lake.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

They speculate it could be upwards of like 10,000 years old, this lake. But the native people in that region, the Ho Chunk people, they talk about around this lake there was these giant, giant red headed giants that would terrorize the Ho Chunk people. Cannibalize them. And they just. They lived in the caves all around this lake. And so they. Yeah, they would kill humans. They're extremely violent. They said that they would hurl massive stones at the Hojunk Ho Chunk people. And so the Ho Chunk people basically prayed to their God or gods or whatever to help get rid of these giants. And then one day there's this big storm that came over and said fire rained down from the sky. Killed all the giants. And it said the Ho Chunk people. For years the lake was red with the giant's blood.

[B]

Holy moly.

[A]

Wiped out these giants at Devil's Lake.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's not where it ends though.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

They also tell that this lake was inhabited by a giant serpent. A serpent that was like this like wise serpent. And it would also just consume and take people that would go by the lake. The Ho Chunk people. And so what happened? They tell the story of a thunderbird, but they refer to the thunderbird as.

[D]

A.

[A]

Giant sky being so not necessarily a bird. Somebody looked it up. I'm like, what was a thunderbird like a bird? Like no, thunderbird was just whatever was the beings in the sky.

[E]

Wow.

[B]

Got it. So that was just their name. Nickname.

[A]

Yeah. So apparently this thunderbird went to battle with the serpent that occupied the lake. And this battle lasted for I don't even know how long, but said like this storm was just over the lake and it was just lightning and the serpent jumping up and like this thunderbird was fighting this serpent. And then ultimately the thunderbird killed the serpent. And that's not where it ends.

[B]

Oh no. Another turn.

[A]

Because even today, people report in the lake for the past hundred years, they're seeing a giant serpent like creature in this lake still. And what's crazy is around this lake there's these ancient monuments that are snake like interest all around this lake. They also say that during this giant battle and the serpent battle, there's literally like claw marks on some of the rocks. Like one of them is like a three prong claw mark that's like. Wouldn't be made by any animal.

[B]

Yeah. Or any other like travels.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. But weird what they say about the current situation is that. Yes. So there's like three toe toad gouges. Where is it? Oh yeah. They say like they'll be like in this lake, like on a boat or something and they'll see a shadow and all of a sudden all the fish will vanish. They say the lights will dim unnaturally. Like it's almost like an electrical whatever. They say the pressure and sound changes when they see the shadow in the water.

[B]

That's terrifying.

[A]

The Devil's Lake.

[B]

Ooh, spooky.

[A]

Very spooky.

[C]

Said something about 100 years. This only happened 100 years ago. The battle between the serpent and then.

[A]

No, no, there's. I'm saying for the past hundred years there's been reports. Reports of this serpent like creature being back. Yeah. But what's even weirder, more weird Is that the military has done multiple exercises in this lake.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah. And they also have all places. They have restricted underwater zones on this lake. There's been reports of unmarked black vehicles after these sightings, and there's occasionally those, like, stealth helicopters that fly around this lake.

[B]

That is interesting. Yeah. If they're getting involved, there's something there.

[A]

Something there that's gotta be.

[D]

I mean, it sounds like the Loch Ness stuff too, where the shepherds talk about it came out of the lake and it grabbed sheep. Like, they always talk about stuff coming out of lakes and it. Loch Ness here. The story. I researched the story too. There's a brosno in the Brosno dragon. I'm not gonna go super into it, but it's. It's a lake in western Russia, and Genghis Khan's grandson was in that region. And, like, the lore starts where he's invading, and they're, like, hoping that he doesn't take over whatever. And he took his horses and his men to water in this lake. And then they say a beast came out and literally started, like, just pulling entire horses in all this stuff. And apparently. So, like, that's like, where the lore. That's the earliest I could find, but this creature existed that, like, literally thwarted an entire, I don't know, battalion or whatever, sent him away. But then for years, people have been reporting, like, same thing, like seeing, like, boats overturned, like, seeing weird ridges ahead coming up and then going back down. Sheep people, stuff like that getting taken or whatever.

[A]

Whoa.

[D]

But then in the early 2000s, they did. They were trying to, like, scan the lake and see if they can find anything. And it all kind of ends. But what they find just above. And it's deep. I forget how deep it is, but it's, like, really deep. And they couldn't go down and actually get to it. But there was like a. Like a. Like a biomass, and they set off explosions. Next to. It wasn't on the bottom. It was like hovering and they set off explosions. It didn't react to the explosions, so they chalked it up to be, like, who knows what, Maybe just decomposing, whatever. But, like, a lot of people think that it had died and then was, like, decomposing down there on the bottom. But the. The explanations for what people had seen, like, sane people been interviewed, be like, no, I. I saw the thing they're saying it was probably just a big series of, like, beavers or, like, gas bubble just. Or like gas bubbles. They're like, stuff decomposes. So, like, gas pockets will like, cause the water to be turbulent, but like if anyone's grown up around water, like if you're out on the middle of a lake, you probably have been on a lake before and you're not going to be like, huh. I think that like little bit of bubbling up, like you go over a spring and it's not going to overturn your canoe. So for something to be like, yeah, really tipping this stuff, it's just weird that Russia, Loch Ness. Now this would you say was Devil's Lake? Yeah, wherever that was.

[A]

Wisconsin.

[D]

Wisconsin. It's the. The story is like almost the same all over.

[A]

Yeah. A lot of them are like cut off lakes too. Like ancient lakes. They're saying Devil's Lake is incredibly similar to Loch Ness. More ancient though.

[E]

Wow. Interesting.

[D]

Do you know what the bottom looks like?

[A]

I don't. I've never seen it.

[D]

I know when they did scans of Loch Ness, it's super weird how cavernous. Like it's. It's not.

[A]

Well, they do say that it's. There's a lot of caverns and they said it's extreme deep.

[D]

Yeah. Because I know when they did Loch Ness, they did a scan like old school. They did a series of boats in a row and they pushed one end to the other. They're like, nope, there wasn't anything there. But it's like, I mean, come on, this creature had all day to get away from like the entire width of the lake, you know?

[E]

Anyways, you should do a study to see if there were any giants by Loch Ness.

[D]

That's actually good.

[A]

That'd be cool.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

To look into. But man, the giant narrative. Red hair prevails.

[D]

Why is that?

[B]

Nephilim.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Nephilim were said to have red hair.

[C]

Really?

[B]

Yeah. Six big giant people with red hair.

[A]

They'd eat people.

[B]

Keeps happening. But it's happening in cultures like that are. Don't have contact with one another. All across the world.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And places in like Australia, you know, Japan, we have places. Papua New guinea, like everywhere they have giant people with red hair that terrorize societies and civilizations and all this stuff.

[A]

Caves.

[C]

Gingers are so mad.

[B]

Yeah, probably.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

No soul. Just kidding.

[C]

I didn't know they all had red hair though, the giants. That's interesting.

[A]

I don't know if they all do, but that's a lot of the narrative. Like Native Americans talk about these giants with red hair. The Kandahar giant in Afghanistan, the soldiers apparently encountered also red hair. Something with it.

[B]

Yep. Love lock cave, something.

[A]

They do say people with red hair have A crazy high pain tolerance.

[C]

Really?

[B]

Yeah. They need more like anesthesia. Anesthesia? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[D]

There is a biological difference. Yeah.

[E]

Isn't that interesting? My mom says I have red hair.

[A]

You definitely don't.

[B]

That's crazy.

[E]

Are you blind?

[C]

My parents and tell me I didn't have eyebrows, so. Parents lie.

[A]

Speaking of lying.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I want to hear your story.

[B]

Okay. This is a spooky story. I mean it's not even. It's a true story, which is the craziest thing. So let me actually send you this story. There's a famous painting that depicts this story and it's like the second most popular painting at the Louvre, right behind Mona Lisa. And it is a 16 by 23 foot painting. It is ginormous. But this is called the Raft of Medusa. Or is what people call it the Death raft of Medusa.

[E]

Wow.

[A]

So how do you say it in French?

[B]

The Death Raft of Medusa? Yeah, something like that, Yep. All right, so July 1816, a French naval ship is set out and they're going out and it's running along the coast of. I don't even know how to pronounce it.

[D]

Bar.

[B]

Maritania. Mauritania.

[A]

See how it feels?

[B]

So, yeah, I know. I'm there with you. All right, so this French naval ship is going out there and they have over 150 people on this ship. The captain of this ship is a political like person that was appointed who has almost no experience whatsoever sailing. But he's the captain, he's this very proud guy and he doesn't listen to anyone. And so while they're sailing, the people, the sea men on the ship are looking at them and saying, hey, we shouldn't be going this way. This is the wrong direction. You've got to change directions. They get stuck. Even though he didn't, I mean, he disregarded them completely. They get stuck on a sandbar and everyone's freaking out because this thing is now sinking. This ship sinks within two minutes.

[E]

Oh boy.

[B]

They have some lifeboats. So first thing they do is they all the officers and the captain get onto the lifeboats. Then the air that is left up to every everyone else, the hundred and forty seven sailors to build their own raft. And in that time they pulled down some of the planks, they pulled down barrels and they put together a 66 foot raft before the whole thing sinks down. And so they have 147 people on a 66 foot raft. The whole plan was the officers and the captain, they were going to tow this raft to shore. But within Minutes. The officers and the captain cut the rope and leave their men stranded in the Ocean.

[E]

Those boogers.

[B]

147 men now within. They were out there for 13 days, but within four days, it was down to 56 men.

[A]

Whoa.

[E]

Are they each other or they.

[B]

Four days. Now, here's what happened. The only food or drink they had was two barrels of wine. So at this point, these men start panicking. You had people who were slaves, you had people who were workers, you had people who had no idea how to survive out here in a place like this. And so madness ensues. Starvation starts taking people out, and people start fighting one another, pushing people overboard. The raft is so wonky, waves are rushing and pulling people off the boat, and people are starting to drink. And so you have drunk, furious, desperate Frenchmen. Frenchmen fighting each other, stabbing one another, killing one another. And within days, they start to literally hallucinate. There. People are seeing like, they're. They're seeing angels, they're seeing ghosts, they're seeing all these things. Some men are hallucinating so bad, they walk off the raft thinking there's land, and they just drown. And once you're off, they kick you out. You have fathers losing their sons right in front of their son's lives right in front of them. And it's just this terrible, terrible thing. And it gets to the point where they're so hungry and so thirsty, they start cannibalizing one another. And so for 13 days, these guys are out there on this 66 foot raft, and in 13 days, only 15 people survived.

[D]

Whoa.

[B]

And they finally flagged down a ship and they found him and they couldn't believe it. And they bring them back to shore and they start going crazy for. Toward the, like the French monarchy. They just can't believe they were stranded. They start talking and, you know, trying to revolt and everything like that. And the story goes crazy, but they try to cover it up. But within two years, this guy who created this painting, which I can't pronounce his name, try. But usually when you do big historical canvas art like that, it's always like Roman or like Greek mythology and stuff. But he chose to do something historical, which was like a kind of sensitive topic for two years out a lot of people, because, like, they were trying to cover it up. And so when he.

[A]

So two years after this happened, he painted that.

[B]

He painted that. It was done within two years. And so he had interviewed survivors. He had built an actual makeshift raft to get lighting and everything and done like actual, you know, sets and stuff. And he even went to a morgue and studied body parts that are cut up and everything. He even kept a head, a decapitated head in his studio for two hours to study decay because it was just that brutal. But when the painting came out, it was a. It caused a ton of ruckus within France because they're trying to cover this up and this guy's putting it on full display. And people thought he was just doing it just to become famous, but he was saying, listen, you can look at the guy at the front that's holding up the shirt.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Waving. That was a man who survived, but he was a slave on the ship. He was a black slave and he survived. And he was one of the main people to speak out and say, so the painter was kind of saying one, we shouldn't have slavery. This guy proves that he went through something that no one should have ever gone through. You didn't care about his life, you didn't care about any of these guys lives. And they lost so many of them. And that's literally what the painting is. But it's huge. 16 by 23ft.

[E]

Wow.

[A]

That's fascinating.

[D]

That's crazy.

[E]

I'd love to go see it in person.

[C]

Me too.

[B]

It's in the Louvre.

[A]

The French man.

[B]

Once again, the French.

[E]

Enough of that.

[A]

What can they do, right?

[B]

Oh, my goodness.

[A]

Except the fries.

[B]

Okay. And the kiss ain't that bad either.

[C]

Oh.

[A]

Oh, dang.

[B]

It's a brutal. I was like, I would need a movie on this. That's like the craziest thing ever. I can't imagine. The officer and the captain.

[A]

I was gonna say 13 days. That seems super quick to start cannibalizing people. But it was like the snow. What was it? It was like three days or something.

[B]

Yeah, but when you're out there, I mean, you start losing your mind and.

[A]

You start thinking, I'm never gonna eat again.

[B]

Yeah. And also you probably lose track of time. I mean, 13 days, maybe not. I don't know. But it's still. It's gotta be tough.

[A]

Yeah. They probably didn't know either. Is that when you drink salt water you start hallucinating because you're dehydrating.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Start getting all wacky.

[B]

I'll start. I'll tell the story real quick just because it's another stranded story. But his name is. Let me look, let me look. Oh, man. One second. It's right here. His name is Poon Limited. Right.

[A]

Fun name.

[B]

Okay. He was a 25 year old Chinese steward on a British Merchant ship. And the ship was torpedoed during World War II by a German U boat in the South Atlantic. The explosion was so violent that the ship sank in under two minutes. Once again, everyone else drowned or was taken by a German submarine crew. Poon jumped overboard. He swam furiously, and by pure miracle, he found a nine foot wooden raft with only a. No. With no radio, no sail. The only thing he had was a few biscuits, some chocolate, a small jug of fresh water, a flashlight, two flares and a knife. That's it. This guy stands alone as the world record for the guy who's ever sailed by himself alone on the ocean. He'd been stranded out in the ocean for 133 days.

[A]

Holy smokes.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

How did he manage Rain?

[B]

I guess you're gonna find out. Listen, so he. What he got on there? When he got on the raft, he built a. With a tarp that he had. He collected rainwater after he ran out of the water that was in this aluminum jug. And so he would collect rainwater that way. But over time, he had like, sun sickness. All this stuff, I mean, like, peeling his skin and like, it's crazy. And so. But what he did for food, he took nails and bent them into fish hooks.

[E]

Fish hooks.

[B]

This guy had not. Was not a fisherman. He was a steward.

[A]

Poon wasn't.

[B]

No, he was never. He was not an outdoorsman. He had never done any type of stuff like this. So he turned nails into fish hooks, used pieces of biscuits as bait. So risking his own food to. To. To fish. And he caught fish that way and he would use their guts as better bait. And so he started reusing that. But he would also drink the blood of the fish to hydrate him.

[C]

No way.

[B]

It's good.

[D]

Crazy.

[B]

And then what he did with the. To get more food, he picked the seaweed off the bottom of the raft that would have started attaching and he. On top of the. The tarp, he would make a tiny bird nest. And he would take some of the fish guts, put it in the bird nest, and then. Genius, dude, he would do that. And then he would. The. The guts would start rotting and start smelling. And so there would be seagulls or birds that would fly by and he would. The birds would land, snatch up this eagle, break it by the neck and drink the blood and eat the meat.

[A]

I was thinking, he's gonna get eggs.

[B]

Nope, he's not that patient. Dude, he's hungry.

[C]

That's crazy.

[B]

And he would use the bones of the fish for fish hooks.

[C]

This guy's Good.

[B]

The dude was an absolute genius. So he obviously collected rainwater using, you know, the funnel with the tarp and his. His jug. But this is the craziest moment. He. At one point, he saw a small shark circling the raft, and Poon managed to hook it with a. With a nail hook. And when he pulled it up, it went feral. It just started flapping, and it got onto his arm and bit into his arm. And he's freaking out, and he takes his aluminum water jug and starts beating the junk out of this shark and kills it and kills it and starts eating it, drinking its blood and within. That was towards the end of his, like, 133 days. And so when Ship. Ship had saw him, he's waving a big piece of shark meat, just begging that they hope that they see him. And he got caught and he was taken, and he became a U.S. citizen. Died at 71.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

And he said, the only reason that kept me going is because he didn't want his mom thinking he died out in the sea.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Crazy.

[A]

Do you know where he was when he got picked up?

[B]

Let me see.

[C]

It was Virgin Islands.

[B]

It was near Brazil.

[D]

Whoa.

[B]

Yeah, it was near Brazil.

[A]

Wait, where. Where did. Let me get shot down.

[B]

Yeah, so we see. Let me see if it says that. That'd be crazy.

[C]

Is this a documentary?

[B]

It was a thousand. He drifted a thousand. South Atlantic was where they got shot.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

And so he drifted a thousand miles.

[A]

It was near Brazil 130 some days and getting older.

[B]

And there's ships that. There was a cargo ship that ignored him, a US Navy ship that ignored him, and a fishing vessel that ignored him that he saw. Could you imagine them? The metal torture.

[D]

Dude. You know, he kept that shark jaw. Just the. Just the visual of that dude getting onto the boat just carrying his trophy.

[A]

Man, Putin's the man.

[B]

He said, I knew if I slept too long, I would die. So I forced myself to wake up. And every hour, like a robot. Dude.

[C]

Holy cow.

[B]

Crazy. 133 days. Over a thousand miles.

[D]

Dude. I want to read his book. I wish I had one.

[C]

Me too. I wonder what his childhood was like or his life leading up to that. To give him all these skills.

[E]

We should have put him on Survivor.

[D]

Strict parents.

[C]

Should have had him on the podcast.

[A]

I know.

[E]

Dang.

[A]

We should name our child Poon Hooper.

[C]

Lim Hooper.

[A]

Poon Lynn Hooper.

[C]

It's a good name.

[E]

Wow.

[A]

Speaking of Poon Lynn Hooper.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We got an extra episode right after this on Patreon.com. forward slash. Ninjas are Butterflies. We're all going to be talking about something about the Pope.

[B]

But too bad Jake's not going to join us.

[A]

Oh, too bad.

[D]

Psych.

[A]

Jake's gonna be there, baby. Yo, YouTube members and Patreon extra episode. And thank you guys for everything you've done.

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Yep.

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We love you. Yeah, make sure to review us. Go to Sunday Cool if you need custom apparel. Sunday Cool Swag. If you want some new ninja merch like stop the clankers.

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Yeah. And our new hat, we gotta.

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Yeah, yeah, it's that hat.

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And guys, wherever you're watching, subscribe please. It helps out a ton.

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Thank you so much. Subscribe, leave a review. Make it silly, make it fun. Give us five stars, please.

[E]

Jake. Where can they find you?

[C]

You can find me on Instagram at Hutch Jake. Tick tock at Jake Hutchinson 3. And on Ninjas or Butterflies, episode 172. 172. Thank you for watching.

[A]

Yeah. Soon to be 180 though.

[B]

Yes.

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Every 10.

[B]

Yep. We have to.

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Love you, Jake.

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Love you, boy.

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See you on Patreon.

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