178 - Secret Sonic Weapons in Venezuela, Tomb Raider, & Seeing Eye Chair

Summary

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Ninjas Are Butterflies – Episode 178

Secret Sonic Weapons in Venezuela, Tomb Raider, & Seeing Eye Chair
Release Date: January 23, 2026
Hosts: Josh Hooper, Andy DeNoon, Corey, Drew
Guest: Corey Romer (Tattoo artist from Nashville, Indiana)

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Episode Overview

This outrageous and high-energy episode of Ninjas Are Butterflies dives into bizarre news stories, dark conspiracy theories, wild military tech, curses (famous and obscure), and deep water phobias. The hosts and guest, tattoo artist Corey Romer, interweave their signature comedy with a dose of the supernatural, personal anecdotes, and pop culture references, all while keeping the banter rapid-fire and irreverent.
Main themes include secret US military technology allegedly used in Venezuela, the infamous Jake Paul curse, weird twists on Stranger Things, occult practices intersecting with science, and the psychological manipulation of the masses.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Bizarre News and Warm-Up (00:00–06:30)

• The team opens with a story about a Pennsylvania man found with hundreds of human remains in his home.
• Banter on sports—mention of the national championship, strange Papa John’s Pentagon pizza spike, and the Super Bowl lining up with Andy’s birthday.
• Quote:
  "Why aren't we putting neural link chips inside grizzly bears and just putting them on the front lines, dude?" – Andy (06:16)

2. Neuralink Song & Musical Interlude (06:43–09:30)

• A playful segment where the crew invents an improv song about Neuralink and sci-fi enhancement, riffing on the concept of "installing" upgrades, winning Nobel Prizes, and other absurdities.
• Memorable Lines:
  "Chipping my skull / Now I'm feeling elite / I can talk to squirrels and predict Wall Street." – Improv by Andy & Corey (07:31)

3. Equal Rights—A Satirical Take (11:00–13:42)

• A tongue-in-cheek discussion about equal rights, poking fun at the discomfort people have answering loaded questions.
• The hosts playfully force each other into faux-controversial soundbites and mock hot takes.
• Quote:
  "If you don't believe in equal rights, you're basically saying no to women. Now you're saying no to women." – Andy (12:40)

4. The Jake Paul Curse & Famous Fighters' Misfortune (21:00–26:35)

• Corey unveils the "Jake Paul Curse": A rundown of strange and unfortunate events that have happened to opponents after fighting Jake Paul, including bankruptcies, injuries, and life collapses.
• Compares the curse to the "Madden Curse," where athletes allegedly suffer after appearing on video game covers.
• Quote:
  "He built it on a mound… The first battle of the Spanish-Indian War happened on his property." – Corey (21:41)

5. Do You Believe in Curses or Coincidences? (25:36–38:21)

• Lively exploration of spiritual and generational curses, coincidence, and how the supernatural may intertwine with reality.
• Drew shares a powerful testimony of breaking a “curse” by rejecting negative self-talk and seeing a physical ailment (clogged ear) resolve when paired with prayer and dog eardrops.
• Quote:
  "For years I've been saying things don't work for me, and I've come in agreement with this lie… So I repent, and my ear popped open. Dude, Jesus is so sick." – Drew (36:19)

6. Medical Emergencies in Space & Gravity Apocalypse Conspiracy (39:00–48:41)

• First-ever emergency evacuation from the International Space Station, shocking the crew.
• Transition to a wild online conspiracy: NASA allegedly bracing for a "gravity loss" on August 12, 2026, for 7 seconds, theorizing millions could die. Crew debates possible causes—Earth's rotation, pole shifts, and discusses the viral nature of such rumors.
• Quote:
  "They're preparing and they won't tell us why… August 12, 2026, the world will lose gravity for seven seconds." – Corey (45:01)

7. Phobias: Deep Water, Megalophobia, and Manatee Nightmares (50:00–55:12)

• Hosts reveal their intense fear of deep water (thalassophobia), sharing personal stories—tubing accidents, gigantic bluegill sightings, and a viral story of a kid body-slamming a dead manatee.
• Quote:
  "I saw a bluegill this big in Indiana… and I was like, am I scared of this bluegill? Yeah." – Drew (51:39)

8. Pennsylvania Grave Robber & The Fleeting Line Between Weird and Sinister (66:11–74:12)

• Drew recounts the chilling news about Jonathan Gerlach, a grave robber in Pennsylvania found with hundreds of bones, including child skeletons, selling them online via Instagram.
• Group reflects on the disturbing ease with which people can transact in human remains and how the seemingly “normal” can harbor the bizarre.
• Quote:
  "He was selling them on Instagram. His IG account is Dead Blank Daddy… Hundreds of skeletons in his basement." – Drew (69:24)

9. Sonic Weapons in Venezuela: Truth or Fiction (79:26–86:03)

• Corey reads a firsthand “account” from a Venezuelan guard claiming that US forces raided with advanced tech, including “sonic weapons” that caused nosebleeds and chaos.
• Hosts discuss plausibility, link it to “Havana syndrome,” and speculate on remote frequency tech and its effects.
• Quote:
  "Suddenly I felt like my head was exploding from the inside. We all started bleeding from the nose. Some were vomiting blood. We fell to the ground unable to move." – Corey reading from the account (81:25)

10. Stranger Things/Montauk Project & Occult Connections (86:03–95:42)

• Deep dive into conspiracy lore: Philadelphia Experiment, Montauk Project, MKUltra, and the mythos behind Stranger Things’ supernatural government tech.
• Discusses the “Seeing Eye Chair,” using radio frequencies and even occult practices (Santeria and the ritual use of hair) to enhance psychic powers.
• Quote:
  "If someone secretly takes your hair, it's considered a spiritual attack… an attempt to influence your destiny." – Josh (93:49)

11. Mind War, Psychological Operations, and Modern Control (99:50–104:46)

• Corey highlights Col. Michael Aquino's book, Mind War: The Psychology of Victory—the military’s embrace of psychological and information warfare, and how manipulation is akin to witchcraft.
• Reveals that Paul E. Vallely, a high-profile retired general and Mind War proponent, is on the board of TPUSA.
• Quote:
  "Manipulation is witchcraft. If you're getting people to work in your direction without their knowing, it's witchcraft, dude." – Drew (102:38)

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Memorable Moments & Quotes (with Timestamps)

• On tech-enhanced animal warfare:
  "Why aren't we putting neural link chips inside grizzly bears and just putting them on the front lines, dude?" – Andy (06:16)

• On curses:
  "Equal rights? I'm gonna go with no, I don't think equal rights are always good…" – Drew, satirically (12:00)

• Gravity apocalypse satire:
  "August 12, 2026, the world will lose gravity for seven seconds… and 40 to 60 million people are dead." – Corey (45:16–48:06)

• On sonic weapons in Venezuela:
  "Suddenly I felt like my head was exploding from the inside. We all started bleeding from the nose. Some were vomiting blood…" – Corey (81:25)

• On Santeria and government science:
  "If someone secretly takes your hair, it's considered a spiritual attack or intrusion…" – Josh (93:49)

• On "Mind War" and manipulation as witchcraft:
  "Manipulation is witchcraft. If you're getting people to work in your direction without knowing, that's witchcraft, dude." – Drew (102:38)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Opening News & Banter: 00:00–06:30
• Neuralink Improv Song: 06:43–09:30
• Satire on Equal Rights & Social Commentary: 11:00–13:42
• The Jake Paul Curse: 21:00–26:35
• Curse & Coincidence Discussion: 25:36–38:21
• Space Emergencies & Conspiracies: 39:00–48:41
• Phobias & Deep Water Fears: 50:00–55:12
• Grave Robber Story: 66:11–74:12
• Sonic Weapons & Venezuela Account: 79:26–86:03
• Stranger Things & Occult Tech: 86:03–95:42
• Mind War, Aquino, and Psychological Warfare: 99:50–104:46

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Language & Tone

• Signature Ninjas Are Butterflies: irreverent, rapid-fire, loaded with jokes and playful ribbing.
• Willingness to dive into dark and strange territory balanced by wit and laughter.
• Equal parts genuine curiosity, skepticism, and improvisational comedy.

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Guest Spotlight

Corey Romer

• Tattoo artist from Nashville, Indiana (not Tennessee!)
• Can be found at @coreyromertattoo (Instagram)
• Shop: Redbird Tattoo
• Gave shout-outs to fans who found him via the podcast and got unique tattoos tied to the show.

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Closing

The episode wraps with callouts for Patreon, new merch (including a hand-drawn corn dog-and-tattoo design), and the promise of extra, juicy content about Venezuelan regime intrigue and stock trades—available only to supporters.

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For those who missed the episode:

Expect a wild ride of comedy, conspiracy, spirituality, and the outright bizarre—woven together by a cast who never misses a beat, and who always find humor in the world’s weirdest tales.
Catch Corey for custom ink, and don't trust anyone holding your hair.

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Transcript

[Andy]

A man in Pennsylvania was found with hundreds and hundreds of human body remains within his home. Why did he have them? How did he get them? Find out more.

[Josh]

Viva la Venezuela.

[Corey]

We just got a firsthand account. Testimony from a guard on the compound of Nicolas Maduro. And he talks about how the US Military used secret weapons that made their nose bleed and vomit blood.

[Josh]

Yuck.

[Corey]

And we're going to talk all about it.

[Josh]

And the true story behind Stranger Things is crazier than you think. It connects our government with other occult practices. Find out how.

[Corey]

Like santer.

[Josh]

Snip, snip.

[Corey]

And then you know what to do.

[Drew]

Hey, this podcast is brought to you and powered by Sunday. Cool. Watch and or listen.

[Corey]

Does it better than my wife?

[Drew]

Never. I'd never be better than her.

[Josh]

You are.

[Corey]

And you're more cute.

[Andy]

Whoa.

[Corey]

Yeah. Stop that.

[Andy]

This is a bad, you know, President. Yeah.

[Corey]

It's like, Josh, you've been doing this, like, a lot.

[Andy]

It's not a joke. It's not even funny anymore.

[Corey]

My wife's hot, all right? I love her.

[Andy]

Yeah. Wait, no, I know you love her. I was agreeing with, like, how you feel.

[Corey]

You said the hot part.

[Drew]

Send her my.

[Andy]

I didn't say the hot part. You said the hot part. Yeah, no, I agreed with your sentiment, like, of, like. I know you feel that way.

[Corey]

What the.

[Andy]

I'm not scared of you.

[Corey]

You shouldn't be.

[Andy]

Were you looking for the knife?

[Corey]

No.

[Andy]

Is that why you were looking over? You were about to stab me. No, I was not. No worry. Look at the. Roll it back. You saw. Your eyes went down. Stop. No.

[Drew]

Neck. It's not crazy painful, but the skin sucks. It's like, my least favorite place to tattoo is. Is on the neck.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

This one was my first one ever, and that was so painful.

[Drew]

Really?

[Andy]

Do you think you could take something? Because I'm trying to, like, want to incorporate more color into. In style to those two, do you think? Yeah, like, add to and just make it look more fun. Possibly. Please, Please.

[Drew]

I don't know, though. They're. The thing is, both of those tattoos are fairly well done.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Drew]

It's not like they're bad. And so that. That's always the fear is like, it's already a fine tattoo. And then to try to, like, push some extra stuff into it.

[Andy]

Yeah. I was just thinking about adding color maybe. I don't know. We'll figure it out.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Andy]

I don't know.

[Corey]

We'll see.

[Andy]

We'll see.

[Corey]

Hey, Cory's here.

[Andy]

Corn dog him out. Cornelius victorious.

[Corey]

We're just talking about our bodies? Yeah, just our bodies and where it hurts the worst.

[Andy]

You got something new on your body today?

[Corey]

Yeah, about two hour and a half ago.

[Drew]

Yeah. Get on up there, daddy.

[Andy]

Look at that.

[Drew]

There he is.

[Andy]

The man in the big fish.

[Josh]

Whoa. That's a lot of thigh.

[Andy]

This is not enough. Not enough. Yeah.

[Josh]

Gotta get put a couple treble hooks on that after the fact.

[Corey]

You know what this looks like, though? It looks like when I'm like, depressed and I just lay in the shower.

[Drew]

Yeah, that's me.

[Andy]

When I can't stop throwing up. Like, please, God, if you're real, take this from me.

[Corey]

Oh, yeah.

[Andy]

Glad to have you back, dude. All the way from Indiana.

[Drew]

Indiana.

[Corey]

Hey, the Hoosiers.

[Drew]

That's right. We are Hoosiers.

[Andy]

They're coming to. Are they doing. Is it in Miami? Where are they doing the national championship game?

[Corey]

They're going to national championship.

[Drew]

Is that the basketball sport or the football?

[Corey]

The football one.

[Drew]

Yes, I've seen.

[Corey]

I just found that out just now because I heard Miami was going.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Yep. So it's kind of Florida versus Indiana. So it's kind of Ninjas versus Corey right now.

[Josh]

When is, when is the game?

[Corey]

I don't know.

[Josh]

I literally should know these things. Don't you like sports? Don't you like those?

[Andy]

You love football.

[Josh]

I know Jake. Jake Hutchison is trying to get shark bite tickets to that game. Trying to trade thousands of oysters for tickets to the game.

[Andy]

I'll just buy the tickets so I can get oysters.

[Josh]

I know. That's what I'm saying. He said he'd do a live event where he'd bring his oyster bar out. And I was like, that seems I'd rather have the oysters for sure.

[Andy]

That would be amazing.

[Corey]

January 19th in Miami.

[Drew]

Oh, that's Miami.

[Corey]

So that's already passed.

[Josh]

Yep.

[Corey]

Wait, whoa.

[Drew]

Are we past that day, Jake?

[Josh]

I hope these people watching.

[Andy]

Oh, yeah, yeah, of course. It's past the 19th.

[Corey]

Yeah, clearly. And congratulations to the winners.

[Josh]

The winner.

[Andy]

Yes. You did a great job. I was a close one for some would say.

[Corey]

Yeah. I can't believe that happened in the second half, dude.

[Andy]

Yeah, I mean, that's like over the line, dude.

[Corey]

You remember that?

[Andy]

The refs are crazy.

[Drew]

Yeah, I, I, I disagreed with some.

[Corey]

Of the calls, but, yeah, it seemed a little fishy.

[Josh]

They can't be perfect. Yeah, it happens.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Hey, the Super Bowl's on my birthday this year.

[Corey]

Wow.

[Andy]

They're celebrating big.

[Drew]

Not bad for your age.

[Andy]

Yeah, thanks. I'm going to go.

[Corey]

Who's going to Super Bowl. Do we know yet?

[Andy]

Of course we do. We just can't talk about it. We don't want to.

[Josh]

Chiefs, the Dolphins.

[Andy]

That would be sad.

[Drew]

Is Papa John's doing another deal? I think. I think that's where the corn dog for myself came from was Papa John's did a coin flip deal that if it landed heads, then you got a free pizza and it landed tail. So I just made two emails and one of them I called Corndog. It happened to be the email that I currently use for most things. So when I do pick up pizzas from Papa John's, they're like, corn dog. I'm like, yes, that's me.

[Corey]

That's me.

[Drew]

That's the winner.

[Corey]

Speaking of Papa John's.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Corey]

So you've heard. You've heard the Papa John's Pentagon thing.

[Drew]

Oh, yeah.

[Corey]

So right before pizza index, the Venezuelan thing with a Maduro.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Yes.

[Corey]

That's the first time I remember his name. Before Maduro.

[Josh]

The.

[Corey]

The spike for Papa John or for the Pentagon was up 700%, but it was like a week ish after. Yeah, it jumped up like 1,400%.

[Josh]

Ho.

[Corey]

So we don't know what something's about to happen. Something could have already happened. We don't know about.

[Andy]

I'm saying, dude, it's going like maybe we're invading Greenland already.

[Corey]

Yeah, that's crazy. We'll talk about that here in a minute.

[Andy]

Taking it with our bare hands.

[Corey]

Bare hands? Yeah.

[Andy]

I mean, we've got to have some good warfare by now. I mean, why aren't we putting neural link chips inside grizzly bears and just putting them on the front lines, dude? Yeah, like chimpanzees maybe. That's literally why they've done it on chimps first. So they're like, we can just weaponize chimps now.

[Corey]

I feel like I've seen a movie like that. No, not turn out good. No, that did not turn out the.

[Andy]

Worst that could happen.

[Josh]

No.

[Corey]

Caesar speaks. Speaking of neuralink, you want a song?

[Drew]

Yeah. Can you Knurling into my brain?

[Corey]

We'll try.

[Drew]

Sick. Looking forward to it.

[Corey]

And we practice this a lot.

[Andy]

Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. And so it's gonna be perfect on the first try. Everyone. You're welcome.

[Corey]

Remember who you are.

[Andy]

Remember who I am. Remember, remember who I am.

[Josh]

How does that feel?

[Andy]

I don't know, dude. Perfect.

[Josh]

I was looking for feedback. Okay, here we go.

[Andy]

I was dust to do with a.

[Corey]

Slow dumb brain Always losing and forgetting.

[Andy]

My name but then I saw that musk was Giving deals Now I'm hooked up like a Tesla wheel.

[Corey]

Chipping my.

[Andy]

Skull Now I'm feeling elite I can.

[Corey]

Talk to squirrels and predict Wall Street.

[Andy]

Solid math while I sleep never miss a beat Won the Nobel Prize from the passenger seat Now I'm faster, stronger super wide I can see the truth Truth behind your eyes don't eat food, dummy to blink, I'm living proof Just install the link Did a Rubik's Cube with just my feet On a diet now just eating concrete fluid in whale fluid in code Looked at a grizzly and made it explode I cured baldness Made peace with bees Taught a dolphin how to ride on skis Gave a TED Talk while on the can Then became the king of Japan Now I'm smarter, cooler, barely slept Robbed a bank with my mind, no regrets Built a yacht out of pure instinct I'm crushing life thank you, Nerling. What?

[Corey]

You did it.

[Drew]

Hot dog.

[Corey]

Wow. You did it.

[Andy]

It was one of those moments where you, like, you see yourself, you're like, if you stop right now, you screw everything up. So just keep using words. We go back and listen to it. None of it is like.

[Corey]

Wow, we.

[Drew]

Did really good, dude.

[Josh]

We're all 80 years old in the lobby of a nursing home. This is just a mental projection.

[Drew]

Dude, I love that. That was.

[Josh]

That was. For you.

[Andy]

That was a good transition from neuralink talk, too.

[Drew]

Honestly blessed with that. That was some bowling for soup vibes.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

I'll take it.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Yeah. I'd like them.

[Drew]

I feel that, dude.

[Josh]

1985.

[Drew]

All right. S Tier song. Beautiful. Wonderful, fast. The harmonies, the woes, the haze, the guitar. Excellent all around.

[Josh]

Dang it.

[Drew]

That was great, dude. I love that.

[Andy]

Thank you, sir. Thank you. It's all for you.

[Josh]

It was.

[Corey]

Golly. That was so fun.

[Andy]

I had a blast. Always have a blast on corn dogs.

[Josh]

Did I tell you I played the hey Ho song at a concert one time and my job was the hey Ho.

[Andy]

But it was.

[Josh]

I only did it at the wrong time. So it was me and another guy. I'd be like, hey, hey.

[Andy]

Is there an echo in here?

[Josh]

It became a joke. The crowd started laughing at us getting it wrong. That's so funny. It was funny for them. It was panic for me.

[Andy]

Yeah, it's funny because it's just a bunch of white people that make that song. And, like, they're not on beat or it doesn't not feel like. So it's like almost like rubbing it in people's face. Like, you know, we're going to embrace than not being On Beat.

[Josh]

I'm realizing right now it might have been cultural appropriation for me to even do this.

[Andy]

It was. And good luck on being canceled.

[Corey]

It's almost like white person jazz.

[Josh]

You would.

[Andy]

Ooh, yeah. But wait, but the whites invented jazz, I thought. Right.

[Corey]

No, those were Hispanic people, I think. Invented jazz. Jazzy.

[Andy]

No, it would just be has.

[Corey]

Oh, yeah.

[Andy]

Has. Has. I love has.

[Corey]

Do you like has? Speaking of jazz. Everyone be quiet.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Corey]

I love jazz, but I don't like this question. And I don't. It's not that I don't like it, okay. I'm afraid of it.

[Andy]

Why are you afraid?

[Corey]

It's just as this world is. There's so much stuff happening. News is just all over the place, lying to us, getting us to side with one side and the other side. Tell them kick rocks. And it's just. I don't like it.

[Andy]

It's understandable, man.

[Corey]

I'll just get on with it. Today's question sent in by a viewer. Corey.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Corey]

Are equal rights good? It's a yes or no.

[Drew]

Yes or no?

[Corey]

Yeah, unfortunately. I wish we could have changed that, dude.

[Josh]

I think he's scared to answer cuz he's backing away from his mic.

[Drew]

Oh, it's subtle. Let me. Let me. Let me think about this.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Corey]

Corey, Are equal rights good?

[Drew]

I'm actually objectively thinking about this.

[Corey]

Yeah, that's really.

[Drew]

I wanted to say yes. I really did. Okay, I'm gonna go on the. No, I don't think equal rights are always good.

[Josh]

Whoa.

[Corey]

Okay.

[Andy]

I mean, we invite him here.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Andy]

We throw him a softball question.

[Corey]

Yeah. I mean. Okay, you're saying no. Timeout. I know you might be, like, being like, oh, they're gonna trick me, so maybe not the case.

[Andy]

We would never do that.

[Corey]

We would never do that. So women. No.

[Drew]

No women.

[Corey]

Just equal rights. You just. It's. It's just, as I say, it's just a no.

[Andy]

If you don't believe in equal rights, you're basically saying no to women. Now you're saying no to women.

[Corey]

That's what it sounds like.

[Drew]

I've said no to a woman.

[Corey]

Where would you be without a woman?

[Drew]

Double not.

[Corey]

You wouldn't exist.

[Josh]

You wouldn't exist.

[Andy]

You wouldn't be here. You wouldn't be here. He doesn't care, man.

[Corey]

He doesn't. I think equal rights is good.

[Andy]

It's incredibly important. It's.

[Corey]

It's what moves the. The wheel of society forward.

[Andy]

Absolutely.

[Corey]

And.

[Andy]

And without it, where would we be?

[Josh]

Dead.

[Andy]

Dead. Probably dead. Rice in the ground.

[Corey]

Rice Fields, Possibly rice fields. Maybe in construction.

[Andy]

Yeah. Oh, golly, could you imagine?

[Corey]

But what are we even building except a terrible society?

[Andy]

Oh, a temple for men.

[Corey]

Ew.

[Andy]

Disgusting.

[Corey]

Ew. Cory. All right, well, I guess you guys heard it here first.

[Drew]

Corey, no equality ever.

[Andy]

The racial implications of what you just said is insane.

[Corey]

It's actually sad. It is scary. It's actually really freaking me out. Welcome to the show. Did I say ninja?

[Drew]

I meant butterfly.

[Corey]

Is no doubt one of God's.

[Andy]

Empty your mind. You were Martial Arts attack. I'm hungry. What up, beavers?

[Drew]

Hey, man.

[Andy]

All right, goodbye. M.

[Corey]

Andy.

[Andy]

Yes, sir.

[Corey]

We're good. We were trying to film an ad.

[Andy]

I know. I'm listening. I'm here. I'm here, baby.

[Corey]

Looks like you're just about to just eat though.

[Andy]

That's dummy good.

[Corey]

What are you talking. What are you. What are you talking about?

[Andy]

I've just been having one of those days where I wanted to eat really, really good something better, but I didn't have time to cook for myself. Ok, so I'm eating my factor meal.

[Corey]

That does happen a lot.

[Andy]

Too often. But factor removes the whole problem. No prep, no recipes, no grocery runs. I literally just heated this up for two minutes and now I'm eating one real food.

[Corey]

What kind of real food are we talking about, Andy?

[Andy]

Well, this one specifically is bison, pork sausage and poblano macaroni with Mexican style corn and zucchini. And I'm not. I'm literally not lying. This is so good.

[Corey]

And it's fresh, right?

[Andy]

Yeah, everything's fresh. Never frozen. And when I'm done, there's no cleanup, no dishes that I have to do.

[Corey]

Okay, that's a huge plus because I. I hate dishes.

[Andy]

Well, you're terrible at doing them.

[Josh]

Not terrible.

[Andy]

You kind of are, but plus they have so many options. Over 100 rotating meals every single week. High protein, calorie, smart, Mediterranean, GLP1 support. You pick what fits your life. It's amazing.

[Corey]

So that way you're not like locked into like one plan then.

[Andy]

Exactly. It's flexible and it works with a normal schedule.

[Corey]

And you're clearly using it. It looks like you're abusing it very clearly.

[Andy]

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[Corey]

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[Andy]

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[Corey]

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[Andy]

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[Corey]

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[Andy]

You want to bite?

[Corey]

I actually really do.

[Andy]

Come on, baby, go. Oh, now you gotta try this. Oh. That was honestly more than I wanted to give you.

[Josh]

Too bad.

[Andy]

Thank you. Factor.

[Josh]

Thank you very. It's pretty good.

[Andy]

It's insane. I would eat that every day. I would just have the exact same meal.

[Corey]

All right, folks, does this sound familiar?

[Andy]

Oh, no.

[Corey]

You check your bank account and think I make money.

[Josh]

Where does it go?

[Andy]

That feels personal.

[Corey]

That's Andy's situation.

[Andy]

It was everyone's situation.

[Corey]

Sure it was.

[Andy]

Rocket Money actually helped me figure out.

[Josh]

What was going on.

[Corey]

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[Andy]

It puts everything in one place.

[Corey]

Subscriptions, spending bills, including subscriptions Andy forgot he signed up for.

[Andy]

Who knew Paramount plus cost 500amonth?

[Corey]

Not me.

[Andy]

And if you see something on there, you don't want any. Pardon. Guess what? Rocket Money can cancel it for you with just a few taps.

[Corey]

That's pretty convenient.

[Andy]

They make it easy.

[Corey]

What else does it do?

[Andy]

It automatically categorizes your transactions, helps you set budgets, and shows you patterns that you didn't even know were happening.

[Corey]

Like how often you order food instead of just cooking.

[Andy]

Hey, I like my steak and shake.

[Corey]

Rocket Money also helps you set sailors saving goals.

[Andy]

Yep. It figures out the best time to put money aside so you don't have to think about it every day.

[Corey]

And Andy doesn't like thinking.

[Andy]

Correct.

[Josh]

And this thing works.

[Andy]

I mean, Rocket Money has saved users over $2.5 billion total, including over 880 million in canceled subscriptions.

[Corey]

Their 10 million members save up to 740 a year when they use all the premium features.

[Andy]

And that's a lot of money that just used to disappear.

[Corey]

So don't be like Andy.

[Andy]

Or do be like me and use Rocket Money.

[Josh]

Ching, ching.

[Andy]

Rocket Money's in the sky.

[Corey]

Rocket Money.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Pay us extra for that.

[Corey]

Andy, can I say something to you without you getting defensive?

[Andy]

I already don't like where this is going.

[Corey]

Your old wallet is a crime.

[Andy]

It was fine.

[Corey]

It's a crusty leather brick, and it looks like it's been through a flood and a divorce.

[Andy]

I mean, it. It held my stuff. So it worked.

[Corey]

It ruined your posture is what it did. You've been sitting crooked for years now.

[Andy]

Okay, that part might be true.

[Corey]

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[Andy]

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[Corey]

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[Andy]

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[Corey]

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[Andy]

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[Corey]

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[Andy]

That means you can actually pick one that actually fits your style and your vibe instead of some sad brown rectangle.

[Corey]

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[Andy]

There's my Ridge wallet.

[Corey]

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[Andy]

Okay, here we go.

[Corey]

Just kidding. Don't do that right here.

[Andy]

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[Corey]

That alone should scare other wallet companies.

[Andy]

Plus, it has RFID blocking, so digital pickpockers can't just siphon all your information when they're standing behind you, which Andy desperately needs. Well, I don't know about that because I. Wait, is that mine?

[Corey]

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[Andy]

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[Corey]

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[Andy]

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[Corey]

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[Andy]

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[Corey]

And after your purchase, they're gonna ask.

[Andy]

You where you heard about Ridge. And guess what? You can mention our show. Let them know we sent you.

[Josh]

Thank you, Rich.

[Andy]

Thank you, Rich. Good job. Good job, everybody.

[Josh]

Good job.

[Corey]

However you said it, we are going to turn the other. Sorry, sorry.

[Andy]

Not sorry.

[Corey]

Speaking of equal rights, you guys heard of the Jake Paul curse?

[Drew]

The Jake Paul curse?

[Corey]

The Jake Paul curse.

[Andy]

I haven't.

[Drew]

This is a recent curse.

[Corey]

It is recent, but it's actually.

[Drew]

Typically curses have a little more history.

[Josh]

Oh, my goodness.

[Andy]

That's what happens every time I watch a Jake Paul video. Yo, Bad things happen.

[Corey]

The Jake Paul, his land that he purchased in Georgia, it's dope.

[Andy]

I mean, yeah, it's a huge, like homeland, right?

[Corey]

60, 000 acres, half the size of Manhattan. What are you, $40 million?

[Andy]

What are you doing with that?

[Corey]

Yo, he put a video out. It's dope.

[Andy]

I don't.

[Corey]

He built like the world's largest, like, dirt tracked, where you can race all the ATVs and stuff.

[Andy]

That's awesome.

[Corey]

He's right on, like Lake Seminole.

[Andy]

Yeah, man.

[Corey]

It's the coolest.

[Josh]

Where is it?

[Corey]

Georgia. It's above Pensacola.

[Andy]

You know, I love his content.

[Josh]

I love Jake.

[Corey]

It's awesome.

[Andy]

It's really cool.

[Josh]

Prime hunting land.

[Drew]

Now.

[Corey]

Jake Paul curse.

[Andy]

Jake Paul curse is.

[Drew]

Is a land cursed?

[Josh]

It could be.

[Andy]

Jp.

[Drew]

He built it on a mound.

[Corey]

It's entirely possible. Go. Well, this is a fun fact about the land. Is that it? It was the. The first. Was it Spanish Indian war that broke out?

[Andy]

No way.

[Corey]

The first battle happened on his property.

[Andy]

Whoa. That's kind of cool.

[Josh]

We're talking about.

[Corey]

He's just. He's. He's living for these curses.

[Andy]

Yeah. For real?

[Drew]

You do a vlog reenactment of that? That'd be sick.

[Corey]

Yeah. But the break this down the everyone that he's fought, something bad has happened to him.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Corey]

So let's start off with Nate Robinson.

[Andy]

Yeah. So friend of the pod follows us.

[Corey]

All it says about Nate Robinson is that. Ghosted after the fight. Haven't heard from him since. All right.

[Andy]

Yeah. Where's Nate Robinson at?

[Corey]

Ben Askren. We all know what happened to Ben Askren. Suffered lung failure and nearly died.

[Andy]

Yeah. Luckily he's doing better be. Golly.

[Drew]

That was scary. Like the fight caused that?

[Josh]

No, no.

[Corey]

It just. All this stuff is after they fight Jake Paul dude.

[Drew]

And then you're just. Lungs give out.

[Corey]

Yeah. His was actually really terrifying from a staph infection.

[Andy]

Dude, he's unrecognizable.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Josh]

He had a full lung transplant.

[Andy]

Right.

[Josh]

Isn't that.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Josh]

That's crazy.

[Andy]

You do that.

[Corey]

Tyrone Woodley later declared bankruptcy.

[Josh]

Ooh, really?

[Corey]

Tommy Fury. Life fell apart. His marriage ended his career decline. Turned to alcohol. Runs marathons against middle age.

[Drew]

What?

[Andy]

You know what? That's probably just to try to help him have better self esteem.

[Corey]

Honestly, it's a curse.

[Andy]

Is he getting beaten by these women? Probably. Most likely.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Most likely by the middle aged women.

[Corey]

Ryan Berlin. Which I didn't know. He fought him. Quit boxing and became a plumber.

[Andy]

That'll do it.

[Drew]

Is that a curse though?

[Josh]

Yeah. Shout out plumbers.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Dude, there's nothing wrong being blue collar.

[Corey]

No, sure.

[Andy]

Just.

[Corey]

Julio Caesar Chavez. Did he fight him?

[Andy]

Apparently.

[Corey]

Oh, sorry. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. Got deported after fighting Jake Paul.

[Andy]

Ooh, wait.

[Corey]

Yep. Mike Tyson nearly died before the first schedule fight.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Corey]

Required eight blood transfusions. Lost half his blood due to a bleeding ulcer. Hospitalized for weeks. And then Anthony Joshua.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Corey]

Days after involved in the car crash in Nigeria. Ten days after the fight. Two of his best friends died in that Car crash and he was hospitalized, bro. Dang, that's crazy.

[Andy]

When you read them all after one another like that, that's. I know, super weird way to put.

[Drew]

Yourself out of a job.

[Corey]

Problem child, right?

[Andy]

Yeah, I guess so, man. Maybe he sold his soul or something. No one, anyone that touches them. Yeah. Bad things fall upon you.

[Josh]

We gotta have Nate on and he can tell us what all happened after his fight.

[Corey]

Yeah. Oh, he is following us, right?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Corey]

Yeah, he is.

[Andy]

Nate, if you're watching. We know you are. We know what you are. Come on. The pod. That is scary, dude. I mean like hearing all those stats and imagine just like going like. And signing up to fight Jake Paul next.

[Corey]

Dude, scary.

[Andy]

I mean. Yeah, it's kind of like. Have you ever heard of the Madden curse?

[Corey]

No.

[Andy]

So there was like a thing for a long time where it was like a 10. It was like 10 years in a row where anyone who got on the COVID of Madden the next year, life ending, injury, something terrible happened and it was literally the Madden curse. So whenever you like, oh, you saw your like favorite player on the front of the like the COVID of the Madden magazine game, you're just like, no, dang it. Now he's crazy. Yeah, it's wild. I'll have to go break that down because I can't remember all the stuff that happened. But it's. It's weird stuff like that, man. Do you believe in like any curses like that you think this is?

[Drew]

Yeah, yeah, curses for sure.

[Andy]

But it's just. It's just weird.

[Corey]

Depends. I mean, it's like sometimes I think people just have bad luck.

[Andy]

Sure.

[Corey]

And then I do believe that there are actual curses out there.

[Andy]

You believe. You believe in coincidences though, right?

[Corey]

I do, yeah.

[Andy]

Yeah. Not a lot of people do. Really? Yeah, there's a. That's a common phrase. I don't believe. Coincidences.

[Drew]

Oh yeah.

[Corey]

Do you believe in coincidence coincidences?

[Andy]

I think so, but I think there can be a deeper level. Two coincidences. That's a hard word to say a lot.

[Josh]

It's just a coincidence. I don't. Is there a plural or is it just a singular that takes the place?

[Corey]

You believe in coincidences?

[Andy]

Coincidences?

[Corey]

Is it like saying like fate? Do you believe in fates?

[Andy]

Yeah, I don't know. It's a hard thing.

[Corey]

Do you believe in fishes?

[Andy]

Yes, only because I've seen a couple on tv. Yeah, that's it. Fishes, deerses.

[Corey]

What do you think of curses, dude?

[Drew]

Yeah, I mean, I'm. I think there's lots of them. I mean, we were talking about today. Like, I think we can accidentally even curse ourselves at times, you know, but, yeah, there's different, maybe different styles of curses, you know, different vibes of the.

[Andy]

Curse because the Bible's full of them.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Andy]

So, I mean, there's, I just, I guess, I don't know, the, I guess I would love to do a study on, like, what does that actually mean?

[Josh]

And look like that's, that's where I'm hung up. Like, what do you, when you say curse, like, people talk about, like, family curses and things like that, and I don't know how much of all of that I believe in.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Corey]

I think, I think the demonic can follow.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Corey]

Traits.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Corey]

Like, I just think that that happens.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Makes sense.

[Corey]

Like, people that talk about, like, alcoholism in their family, it seems like it can carry on throughout the family, biologically.

[Andy]

Yeah. You're more likely to become an alcoholic if your parents are one.

[Corey]

Yeah. Is it biologic or is it spiritual?

[Andy]

Yeah. And that's the thing. That's where I balance. There's, it feels like there's a lot of spiritual depth within curses and stuff. And, like, coincidences, even, like, good coincidences.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

I feel like that's where I always fall. And I know I'm not one of those people. Like, oh, my goodness, I saw a butterfly land on my car. And that means this, this, and, you know, I don't believe in so much that, but it's, I don't know, I get really hung up, and I feel like you've heard me explain that a million times where if there's, like, if this didn't happen, or if this would have happened two seconds later, then this whole chain of events would have never happened. Obviously, all those little. That's what blows my mind. But that just may be God's hand in all of it.

[Drew]

Yeah, I, I, I like to say this a lot because, one, I like the idea of just kind of flipping this on. On its head, but except, like, when I tattoo, like, I get a very variety of different people kind of coming to my booth and, like, that type of thing. I, I tattoo a lot of Christians. I tattoo a lot of people that aren't Christians at all. And so I like to just tell people, like, oh, I'm very spiritual, because I, I used to get that all the time. I talk to different people, like, about Jesus and stuff. And they'd be like, oh, I don't know if I believe in Jesus. I'm just, like, very spiritual. And so then I just, like, feel like, oh, I'm like, very spiritual. I probably am way more spiritual than you are.

[Corey]

The right kind of spirit.

[Drew]

Like, I believe in a lot of spirit stuff, which I'd say objectively, if you're a Christian, you should be like, you believe in, like, the resurrection of the dead. Like, that's pretty spiritual. Yeah, you believe a lot of spiritual things. So. So that's where. And then with all like, the weird stuff, that's where I'm like, so on the idea of curses, I'm like, oh, for sure, dude. Like, for sure. You can, like, Like, I think like familial curses and that type of stuff where it's like, okay, like you're saying like alcoholism or something. Like, I think that the natural and the physical are very closely blended. Or I'd say they're intermeshed or like, blended together. Like, things in the natural are affecting the supernatural. Things in the supernatural are affecting the natural.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Which I'd say is biblical. The Bible talks about those type of. Of topics.

[Corey]

And.

[Drew]

And so that's where it's like with curse. That type of curses. Not necessarily talking specifically about, like, the Jake Paul style curse, where it's like, well, this weird coincidence keep happening. Yeah, but. But yeah, that type of curse. I'm like, yeah, yeah, dude. I think that there is a spiritual tie, but I think it is not that challenging to break off of it. And I think that's often where I'll see people kind of get hung up on stuff. They're like, oh, this is the hand I've been dealt. I'm stuck with it for the rest of my life.

[Josh]

For sure. People like, Mike's always been in my family. I just don't know how to get past it. It's like, there is grace and a savior and love that breaks down anything.

[Drew]

So, yeah, because for me, there's like, actually specifically on curses.

[Corey]

My.

[Drew]

My parent, my dad, I think in his side of the family, they'd be like, oh, that's the Roh Miser curse. And they would just say things like that. And I was like, nope, I'm not down for that. And I just, like, blatantly rejected it and, like, did not take ownership or authority of it in my life. I was like, I'm not gonna speak death over my own life and just be like, oh, the romances are a curse. Things are bound to happen that are bad. I'm like, no, dude. Like, I have a new lineage. Like, the Lord has saved my life. And so that's like, on that type of, like, side of Curses and stuff. I'm like, no, dude, I'm just gonna rebel against the evil, go towards the light and walk in the newness and abundant life that God's given me.

[Andy]

Yeah. Maybe it's not a curse. Maybe it's just a pattern of bad decisions and sin. I mean, you never really know.

[Drew]

I mean. Yeah. And that's again, like, you have, like, the spiritual and the physical, and I really believe they are connected.

[Andy]

Oh, sure. Yeah.

[Drew]

And so it's like, it's again, I think it's like what the Bible talks about, faith and works like it's a. That's exactly. That topic is like, spiritual, physical. Yes, we believe this thing, but are you just going to keep living in it?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Or, oh, we believe this thing. And now I'm going to physically make a change in my life.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Drew]

And, yeah, I. It's balance, man.

[Andy]

Can't have one without the other.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Corey]

Those desert fathers, man, they put demons with everything.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Corey]

Depression, anxiety, apathy, you know, like.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Corey]

There's always a demonic presence.

[Andy]

So that was something I always kind of struggled with, like, you know, because I was a new Christian, like, midway through high school, so I was learning everything for the first time. So then I'm going to Bible college and all that stuff. But Kelsey's family was raised, like, you know, like, anger and stuff like that, and was like, literally was saying, like, that's. That's a demon that you have. And I always felt like, that, like something, like being possessed by something. But then, like, you have that idea of, like, you know, like, what if that's, like, you know, Satan's stronghold or something like that? And it's. So it is a, you know, is something that can grab a hold of you if you don't actively choose against it.

[Drew]

Yeah. I think a very common misconception. And I don't know, maybe some people in the comments might disagree with me, but I don't really care. But people will, like, hang their hat on this thing there. They say, oh, Christians can't be possessed, which I would say, I agree with.

[Corey]

We'd be oppressed.

[Drew]

Yeah. And that there is a difference between possession and oppression. Possession would be this demon is, like, fully lived inside of you, taken over your body, and you've kind of like, given it rain to run you. Yeah. Not saying that they're always manifesting that demon, that they could be normal and then it can manifest and get more intense. But I. I truly believe Christians can very much be oppressed by the demonic and have stuff linger upon their life. Because of things that they've come in agreement with, whether it's a lie they've come in an agreement with and things of that nature.

[Andy]

Sure.

[Drew]

Where they're. And that's where we're again, leaning into, like, a curse. I was actually just sharing this with Josh, which I'll just share the same story, because it's kind of sick, and it. I think it illustrates what was going on. And so, like, this past summer, I did my skate trips, and we were doing the skate trip, and for about a full month, I could not hear out of one of my ears at all. Like, fully closed up in my ear and could not hear anything. And it would just, like, sucked. Like, luckily it wasn't painful, but it was extremely inconvenient. And I was like, man, this sucks. And I don't have health insurance. And so I don't, like, can't, like, like, what I'm gonna, like, go to a doctor and, like, minimum pay, like, 150 bucks just for them to be like, yeah, that sucks, dude. And so I'm like, I don't know. And then I was doing some research and, like, really looked into, like, what the medicine I needed for my ear. And then I got the dog version of it for, like, 30 bucks.

[Andy]

That's so funny.

[Drew]

I was, like, kind of skeptical, but I really did enough looking into it where I was like, they're the same, like, the. And it's just eardrops. And so I was like, I'm just going to get this dog medicine. And so I get the dog medicine, and I'm, like, doing it, but, like, nothing's changing. And I was like, that sucks. Like, I was hoping something would change. And so I'm on my trip and we're praying over each other, and I was like, yeah, dude, you guys could, like, pray for my ear because it's, like, you know, closed up and doesn't work. And that'd be cool to hear. So they. They start praying for me. And as they're praying, like, the Lord just brought to my remembrance this phrase that I'd been speaking over my life for years. I've been saying this for years upon years. Like, I just small talk conversation. Like, oh, I say this thing, and I. Basically, what I just say was like, oh, just things don't work for me. Like. Like, yeah, like numbing cream. That's cool for you guys, but it just. Just doesn't work for me. I tried. Didn't work. Oh, I have a headache. Take some ibuprofen. I still have a Headache. It just doesn't work for me. And I just say that all the time. And I really believed it. I'd come in agreement with this lie over my life that things don't work for me and they're praying over me. And then the Lord brought that to my mind. I was like, oh, shoot, I've been like cursing my life for like years. And so I paused everyone. I was like, hey, I need to repent. And I just openly repented right on the spot because I believe repentance does break curses. Oh yeah.

[Josh]

And.

[Drew]

And so I was like, yeah, I. I just prayed out loud with my homies there. I was like, yeah, I just repent from this phrase I've been saying that things don't work for me, that actually God loves me. God's chosen me and he wants my life to prosper. And so I repent of this curse that I've been putting on my life. And they finish praying and I'm like, right on. And my ears still fully closed up. And I'm like, right on. Whatever, you know, like, praise God. He's still good, he still loves me. And I still have come out of agreement with this lie that things don't work for me. And I was like, I'm just going to keep taking these ear drops like, you know, I'm supposed to. And we'll see, you know, if this.

[Andy]

Works like a good dog should.

[Drew]

Yeah, like a good dog. Like a proper corn dog would. And. And so took the ear drops, whatever. Continued with the skate trip. It was maybe, I think a five day trip. And finished up the trip still the entire time. Ear 100 closed, can't hear anything. I was so annoyed because, like, also I'm like skating and sweating in extreme heat. So then like more blood is in my face. So I'm like, I can't hear anybody. Like, I'm just like. And I'm like the trip leader to be asking me questions like, dude, I honestly, I cannot hear you, dude. Yeah, and wrap up the trip, everything's sick, go home. And the day I get home, I was running an errand and dude, my ear popped open like 95% fully could hear. Was like, whoa. Like, I was just driving from, like, I dropped stuff at Go, dropped off stuff at Goodwill, just like pulling out of the parking lot like, and I was like, whoa, what sick, dude. And I like messaged everybody. And then by the next day it was 100% clear. And I mean, I truly believe it was a pairing of coming in agreement with what the Lord has For my life. Coming out of agreement with a curse that I've been placing on my life and being faithful with what God told me to do, which was keep taking these ear drops, you know, like, you know, whatever, do your thing. And boom, perfectly opened up.

[Andy]

That's awesome.

[Drew]

And as well as the previous time that my ear. Something like that happened to, I, like, I didn't have any ear drops for that one either, but it, like, never, like, popped open. It just, like, over, like, a few weeks, slowly got a little bit better and a little bit better. And I was, like, really annoyed by it because I was like, you want that satisfying? Like, pop. Oh, my gosh, I can breathe again or I can hear again or whatever. And it, like, never did that for the last time. But with this one, it did instantly pop open, and I was like, dude, Jesus is so sick.

[Andy]

That's sick.

[Corey]

Sounds like you could fight Jake Paul and be all right then.

[Josh]

That's what I'm thinking.

[Drew]

No, I'm also a fan of not, like, seeking out curses, you know, that's cool.

[Andy]

I like that the way it, like. Because that goes back to Romans 12, like, the renewal of your mind. People often forget, like, how often we've just morphed our mind over years of just learning habits and going through the same way of thinking and adopting our parents and friends thinking.

[Drew]

It's like, do you accidentally cursing ourselves? Yes.

[Andy]

Like, and just being active on those thoughts, taking every thought captive and like, oh, that is not biblical at all. And that's not what Jesus or God has said about me at all. Whatsoever.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Andy]

So getting rid of that. That's also.

[Drew]

Read your Bible.

[Andy]

Yes.

[Corey]

Speaking of medical emergencies. Sure. About the medical emergency on the International Space Station?

[Andy]

What? No, no, dude, that just happened.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Oh, my goodness.

[Corey]

First time ever.

[Andy]

I mean, I'm surprised it hasn't happened sooner.

[Corey]

I know.

[Andy]

That's kind of crazy.

[Josh]

They do a ton of testing before they can fly. Like, that gnarly amount of GS you pull to get up there.

[Corey]

Oh, yeah. But it's the crew. 11 astronauts all, they said. They didn't say who it was, but there was a medical. Medical concern on January 7, and they said they were able to make this person, this astronaut, stable, but they basically had to do a quick evacuation, which I'm. I'm pretty sure is taking place today. Ish. But, yeah. It's the first time in International Space Station history where a medical evacuation had happened.

[Andy]

That is nuts.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Corey]

They're supposed to stay till late February, and so they had to get Them out of there. Jeez, could you imagine, dude, Would that.

[Josh]

Just be, like, feeling your heart being like.

[Corey]

No, there's talk about anxiety.

[Drew]

Is there a doctor anywhere?

[Josh]

No, we're in space.

[Andy]

Well, I just asked because I was wondering. I'm like, has anyone ever died in space?

[Drew]

Yeah, maybe.

[Andy]

I mean, we have. We have never talked about a death.

[Josh]

I mean, how high up do you have to go for it to be?

[Andy]

I mean, obviously, the Challengers were probably technically in. Yeah, that's what I imagine. But apparently 11 cosmonauts in 1971 died from cabin depressurization during re entry. That's crazy. Dang.

[Drew]

The reverse submarine.

[Corey]

The Russians.

[Andy]

There was a Columbia 2003 shuttle disaster.

[Corey]

Yep.

[Andy]

And then the Apollo 1 fire. What about the Challenger, though, that they mentioned the Challenger.

[Josh]

Oh, yeah.

[Corey]

But that wasn't really space.

[Josh]

That's what I was saying.

[Andy]

Like, I don't know how high. I think there's a technical line where.

[Josh]

Red Bull said it was.

[Drew]

Oh, yeah, true.

[Corey]

That guy died, too, though.

[Andy]

What do you mean?

[Drew]

Recently?

[Corey]

Recently, yeah.

[Josh]

Forgot we talked about that.

[Corey]

Did we talk about that?

[Josh]

I thought we mentioned it.

[Corey]

You know the guy that did the world's highest job when he just fell off? Yeah, he died.

[Andy]

How'd he die?

[Corey]

I don't know. Oh, I think, like, too much caffeine.

[Andy]

Or something from that fall. I'm like, I think I would have heard that. I don't think they would have released that footage. Too much caffeine? Is that what you said? You terrible person.

[Josh]

I'm just.

[Andy]

You're terrible.

[Corey]

No, I don't.

[Andy]

You're awful.

[Drew]

Hey, dude, speaking of skydiving, do you guys know who Mike Lindell is?

[Corey]

No.

[Andy]

Yeah, I've heard that name.

[Josh]

Mike.

[Drew]

Mike, the inventor of my pillow.

[Andy]

Oh, yeah.

[Corey]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Drew]

Do you guys know about my pillow?

[Corey]

Super into politics, isn't he?

[Andy]

Mustache?

[Drew]

I don't know, but. But this is what's wild. Mike Lindell has had a crazy life. Like, he's done, like. He's, like, been, like, a drug addict and, like, strung out and all these different things. But one day he was on his motorcycle on his way to. To go skydiving. Gets in a motorcycle wreck on the way to go skydiving.

[Andy]

Whoa.

[Drew]

And is, like, somehow. Okay, enough. Whatever. Which motorcycle wrecks are insane to me. Like. Yeah, that's scary.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Gets to the skydive, place goes up, does the skydive. His parachute doesn't open.

[Andy]

Dude, take the hint.

[Josh]

And that.

[Drew]

I think, like. I think he managed to get, like, a secondary shoot. Or whatever. What? I don't really know how a parachute work, but. But yet literally, like multiple near death experiences back to back. And then creates a comfortable pillow.

[Corey]

He's like, what? The safest business I can get into the pillow industry.

[Andy]

What is something that would have saved both my life gone wrong? A soft landing.

[Josh]

That's crazy.

[Andy]

That is hilarious. There was. You see that video? The guy, he was a. He does like skydiving jumps for a living and everything. And he took his mom.

[Corey]

I did see that, dude.

[Andy]

He. So it's tandem. His mom's on the front and they jump out. The parachute doesn't work. It gets tangled.

[Corey]

It got twisted up.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Corey]

And he got it untwisted and then it. It lost it, like collapsed.

[Drew]

So he.

[Corey]

To rip it and then pull out his reserve. And the mom wasn't opening. And so he's just doing this.

[Andy]

Just kept pumping it and it came.

[Corey]

It finally opened. He's like, oh, okay, we're good.

[Andy]

But his mom, like, chill the whole time was super relaxed.

[Josh]

I mean, she wouldn't have known. She just thinks. No, I mean, she's flapping behind.

[Andy]

She definitely knew. That's weird.

[Josh]

For another reason.

[Corey]

Well, no, because when she pulled her, she's like, did you have to pull your reserve?

[Josh]

He's like, yeah, yeah.

[Andy]

She knew something was up. But then she's like. She's like, you know, but she's like, yeah, we're okay. And she's like, what a mom. Yeah. And she's like, I was with you. We were together. It's okay. And it's like grandma was watching down on us, taking care of us. I was like, dude, that would have been a nightmare.

[Corey]

Yeah, Grandma was a little late.

[Andy]

Crazy. That. That's the. That my pillow guy story that always. Have you heard, like the burnt toast theory? No, no, it's the whole theory of, like, you know, like, you wake up and you accidentally burn your toast and then. So you have to redo your toes in that little time. Saved people's lives because there was a wreck on an interstate or something.

[Corey]

Yeah, I think I hear a lot of times.

[Andy]

Yeah. I mean, like, that's the type of coincidence type of thing where it's like, who knows if that's truly a pure coincidence? Is it angel type of stuff? God working. Who knows, man?

[Corey]

I didn't have to. If I didn't have to tie my shoe, then I would have been in Vietnam war.

[Andy]

Exactly.

[Corey]

It's like, well, if I would have had.

[Andy]

If I wouldn't have had to wipe one more Time.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Who knows? I could have been on the Challenger.

[Corey]

You know how many times I probably saved my life with how many. How much I sat on the toilet.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Andy]

But also inconvenient stars.

[Corey]

Thank you, ibs.

[Andy]

Thank you.

[Corey]

IBS saved my life.

[Andy]

You become a spot like a spokesperson for ibs. Not a not cure of it, but not like. Not just the fact that it just exists.

[Corey]

Speaking of NASA, tell me.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Corey]

You know a lot of us are going to die in August.

[Andy]

Hey, we finally have a countdown. This is the first traumatic experience of the new year.

[Corey]

This has been going on for since 2024. These people have talked about this document was leaked August 12, 2026. The world will lose gravity for seven seconds.

[Andy]

What? Who said that?

[Corey]

NASA. NASA knows. They're preparing and they won't tell us why. In November 2024, secret NASA document titled Project Anchor leaked online. The project's budget is $89 billion. Shooting.

[Drew]

They're just gonna tie everything down.

[Corey]

And its goal is to survive a 7 second gravitational anomaly expected August 12, 2026 at 14:33 UTC. Time. Okay. Which, I don't know, military time? So was that 2 o'? Clock?

[Andy]

I don't know. I'm just gonna.

[Josh]

Wait. What?

[Andy]

I'm just gonna bunker down on 1433.

[Josh]

14?

[Corey]

Yeah, 1400 hours.

[Josh]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Andy]

I'm just gonna be hiding under my car for.

[Josh]

Seems like a really high.

[Andy]

That won't work either.

[Josh]

Seems like a really high budget where you could just ratchet yourself down.

[Drew]

That's. That's the. But that's what the budget's for.

[Corey]

What are you gonna ratchet?

[Drew]

Strap, ratchet straps?

[Josh]

The ground.

[Corey]

Everything's floating. Even the ground.

[Andy]

Even the trees are floating.

[Corey]

But yeah, they're saying that they. They expect the duration to be 7.3 seconds long. And expected casualties will be 40 to 60 million people.

[Andy]

What if everyone's got to be prepped?

[Josh]

That's pretty much everyone outside of like Internet access. That's what that is.

[Andy]

Dude, imagine you're on a boat. Yeah, imagine you're pooping and then it goes back up. This is a nightmare.

[Corey]

You know how long that took me to get out?

[Andy]

Just holding this all again?

[Josh]

Holding the toilet seat. Just getting covered, bro.

[Andy]

I mean, that's crazy. What would cause gravity to be gone for seven seconds?

[Corey]

Nothing. Unless the world stops spinning. But then everyone would die.

[Drew]

Yeah, that's even worse.

[Andy]

Yeah, I feel like the. That's the implications of that happening. There's got to be something bad. Stronger.

[Corey]

Well, that's the whole Adam and Eve theory, right? Where the pole. The pole shift.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Corey]

And if the pole shift and the. The earth would stop for a second. Yeah. That said, everything would be destroyed.

[Andy]

Well, yeah. If the sun stops shining for seven seconds, I think the implications of that alone would be insane.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Like, how long would it take?

[Corey]

We talked about this before.

[Andy]

Seven minutes.

[Corey]

Seven minutes.

[Andy]

It's seven minutes.

[Corey]

Such a weird thought.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Corey]

Like, it could be out right now. We have seven minutes to figure this out.

[Josh]

I mean, there's nothing to figure out.

[Corey]

We're dead.

[Andy]

Great movie. But it'd be seven minutes long.

[Josh]

Interior room. So we probably wouldn't know for even longer.

[Corey]

But they go on. They go on. 1 to 2 seconds. Everything not secured will rise. People, vehicles, animals. 3 to 4 seconds in. Objects will continue to rise to 15 to 20 meters up 5 seconds. 5 to 6 seconds in panic and chaos will ensure or ensue. And people hit ceilings.

[Josh]

Seven seconds.

[Corey]

Gravity returns and everything falls from the sky. And 40 to 60 million people are dead.

[Andy]

Dude. What a cleanup.

[Corey]

Anyways, I don't think that's going to happen.

[Andy]

The great gravity.

[Corey]

But what if people are just like.

[Josh]

That is so funny. This is crazy, man. That would never.

[Andy]

That'd be insane. Prove that to happen.

[Corey]

And this is like.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Corey]

I mean, we put it out there. We.

[Josh]

We should just do a live from a field where there's nothing to grab hold of. We should.

[Corey]

At that time.

[Josh]

At that time, my first thought was just like, bleachers.

[Andy]

My first thought was just to, like, tie myself down with a bunch of weights.

[Corey]

But then the weight.

[Andy]

I realized that five seconds later, like, oh, wait, that wouldn't work.

[Corey]

Just get squashed by all the weights.

[Andy]

Everyone needs a hamster ball. We got. The $8 billion is for us. Everyone can have a hamster ball.

[Corey]

89 billion.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Andy]

We can't make that many hamster balls.

[Corey]

No.

[Drew]

You know, it could save some people, though. You know, like some dude, he's like, on a roof. Exact time falls off a ladder.

[Andy]

That would be insane. It will save some lives. Yeah.

[Corey]

They'll kill 40, 60 million, but save at least 100.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Some poor guy trying to take his life, just like, wait a minute. I don't want to end my life anymore. This is it. God save me.

[Josh]

Doesn't make it back up anyways.

[Corey]

Yeah. I don't.

[Andy]

That's terrifying.

[Corey]

But if it happens, it happens.

[Andy]

That would be crazy.

[Corey]

You guys heard it here first.

[Andy]

Yeah. Market, I'm putting on my calendar. Yeah.

[Corey]

We should literally do a live stream at that exact time.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Andy]

We have to. Yeah, we Definitely have to.

[Josh]

Normal work day time, right?

[Corey]

Yeah, the 14.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Corey]

Wait, what's UTC?

[Josh]

What.

[Corey]

What time frame or zone is that?

[Andy]

Dude, I don't know.

[Drew]

Yeah, that's some other.

[Andy]

Well, I'm not a Harvard grad.

[Drew]

You know that Australia has like.

[Josh]

We can't do it.

[Corey]

What is.

[Josh]

Is five hours ahead of us. So it's 7:53 UTC right now. We still do Instagram live coordinated Universal time.

[Corey]

Universal Time.

[Drew]

Now they're just making everything.

[Josh]

No thanks.

[Corey]

Believe in one God.

[Josh]

Dude. Speaking of being terrified, I'm excited to get into my reel, which I know it is not time for yet, but it's okay.

[Drew]

I don't have a proper question in my heart.

[Josh]

You got. You got time to come up with it, but I don't know if you've heard of it. Thalassophobia.

[Drew]

Thallus. The thallus.

[Josh]

Fear of deep water.

[Corey]

Oh, gosh. I have that. I so have that.

[Drew]

Do you?

[Corey]

I really do.

[Josh]

Do you? And while I'm going through coincidences is correct.

[Corey]

Water just scares me in general.

[Josh]

And then there's also. When you combine that already Internet failing on me. What is it? Megalophobia. Deep water, big things. Yeah, it's my real.

[Drew]

I used to jump off this cliff into water.

[Corey]

You're right.

[Josh]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Drew]

It's kind of famous cliff in Indiana. The movie Hoosiers or. No, not the movie Hoosiers. Breaking Away, another movie filmed in Indiana about Indiana stuff. They jump off these cliffs called Rooftop. But I'm not much of a fisherman or anything, so don't quote me too deeply on what this creature was. But anyway, one of the cliffs There is about 40ft and it's going into like a quarry. So just like deep. And it's like this teal water and you can see pretty good. And I was jumping off it and it's like. I don't even know how deep it is. Like you don't get to the bottom type of vibes.

[Andy]

Sure.

[Drew]

And it's all stone, so there's not even like dirt in it at all. So it's real, like clear. But. So we were jumping off. Everything's cool. But then I saw this fish inside this water and I think it was a bluegill, which is like a mellow fish, but it legit. I don't know if bluegills get this big, but it seemed about that biggish.

[Josh]

That'd be a record.

[Drew]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So I'm like. I'm like. Because most bluegills I've seen Are, like, this big. Really big. That big. This one was, like, my arm. It was large. And I'm like, dang it, dude. Am I scared of this bluegill? And I was, like, nervous to jump back into that water kind of like, the rest of the time I was there just because I'm like, oh, yeah, dude.

[Josh]

I saw a story podcast. It was Australians who got a call in from a Florida man or an email. And so these kids, like, we've. We grew up in Florida.

[Drew]

Yes, dude.

[Josh]

Jumping off the docks is a normal part of your childhood in Florida. I'm sure in the Midwest and all the other million places you've lived, that's.

[Drew]

Also a normal document dock. Yeah, Doc. Never heard of it.

[Josh]

But, like, it's, like, one of, like, my fondest memories of glowing. Growing up in the Panhandle was, like, jumping off of docks. And it's also. It's creepy when all you have is, like, a green, like, dock light or, like, one light, so it's, like, fun. Then you're in the water, and then pan panic ensues. The other thing we know as Floridians is you do not touch manatees. Like, that's a hard rule. And I'll. I'll link the podcast because I'm completely stealing a story.

[Drew]

I. I saw this, and I've started following them because of the story.

[Corey]

I steal stories all the time.

[Josh]

This story is gnarly. So these kids are jumping, and then, like, I think he said they're, like, 10 and 12. And so, like, making bad decisions, not condoning it, but they're literally swimming, having time of their lives. And then a manatee pops up, and he's like, dude, what do you give me if I touch the manatee? He's like, dude, jump on the manatee. And so he agrees, literally runs the dock and body slams the manatee, thinking this is, like, a great idea, and it's going to be epic. Hits the water. There's three kids, and the other two kids are like, where'd he go? They're expecting to hear just all sorts of thrashing or, like, you know, the kid to hurt himself because the thing's huge and maybe he didn't penetrate, but, like, nothing. And then, like, three, four, five, six seconds. However long it was, it was seconds go by, and he comes up out of the water screaming, I just killed manatee, bro. Hit it and went straight through it. Oh. Because the manatee had been dead and washed up to the dock.

[Andy]

Oh.

[Josh]

And I will bear the details of the story, but literally fell through jelly.

[Corey]

Oh, my gosh.

[Josh]

And had to come back to the surface through what? He had just exploded. Bro.

[Andy]

That is disgusting.

[Josh]

Also kind of what you deserve for trying to body slam a manatee. Yeah. Jerk. Yeah. Don't do that.

[Andy]

They're the nicest animals in the world.

[Josh]

I know.

[Andy]

There's like, videos of them. Like, they have no natural predators. When I. Crocodiles, alligators, they're just swimming.

[Corey]

Right, guy?

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Corey]

Don't mess with them.

[Andy]

Don't mess with Bob.

[Josh]

The thing that hooked me to keep watching this video is I was like, I swear, if this kid jumps on a manatee.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Like, I was getting angry, and I was like, oh, man. That's way more story than I thought I was getting.

[Andy]

That's crazy. I thought, like, when you jumped in the water, my guess was he became the manatee. Oh. And that's what all manatees are, is just trapped souls of rebellious children.

[Drew]

Yeah. That's the man part of the world.

[Josh]

That might. I might have to run that with Noah. I like that.

[Corey]

Do you know Spanish conquistadors try to eat manatees?

[Josh]

I heard that they taste pretty good.

[Drew]

And they got a curse.

[Corey]

They just said it tastes real bad. Yeah, it tastes like elephant.

[Andy]

Yeah, that makes sense.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Corey]

Speaking of elephant.

[Andy]

Elephant. Speaking of remember things, look at that elephant.

[Drew]

Whoa.

[Corey]

Look at that.

[Andy]

Oh. New shirt alert.

[Corey]

New shirt alert. And guess who designed it. The corn dog.

[Drew]

I drew that picture.

[Andy]

Dude, we need to get it. We need to get you a logo for this episode. Or TV T shirt where it's literally Corey as a corn dog, but has, like, tattoos on the corn dog.

[Josh]

That would be cool.

[Andy]

That'd be so cool.

[Drew]

Yeah. I'm all about that.

[Andy]

Please draw it. Yeah, you're gonna have to draw yourself.

[Drew]

That's fine.

[Andy]

To self portrait.

[Drew]

I've drawn. I've portraited myself before.

[Andy]

Good. Speaking of portrait, I did sundaycoolswag.com go get that shirt. Now.

[Josh]

Yes.

[Corey]

Go get it right now. It's on sale right now. Go get it, please. Speaking of portrait shirts.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Corey]

I got this crazy story about a book in the CIA and tp usa.

[Andy]

Toilet paper usa.

[Corey]

Maybe. Maybe not. So, basically, I'll tell you my sss. I don't go anywhere.

[Drew]

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[Corey]

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[Andy]

Hey, folks, it's your friend Rave Damsie here. Sorry for the interruption, but listen, New Year's is finally among us. And like a gator at a public park splash pad, I couldn't be more excited. And since I got you here with me, I figured I'd share some of my New Year's resolutions with y'.

[Josh]

All.

[Andy]

So here we go. Number one, learn to play the accordion. I've always wanted to. It looks like a hoot. Number two, Perfect. My apricot habanero jam sounds pretty good, right? Number three, finally get that North Dakota hit and run charge expunged from my record. It was an accident and almost no one got hurt. And number four, order custom merch from sundaycool.com for the 42nd annual Tampa Bay Seafood and Sunshine Festival. And finally, number five, I'd like to see my kids again. So, Cynthia, I know you're watching. Please return my calls. Speaking of calls, give me a call anytime. 1-800-865-0726. Happy New Year's, y'.

[Josh]

All.

[Andy]

Let's get back to the show. Do you guys hear we lost?

[Corey]

What did what lose?

[Andy]

The Golden Globes. The best podcast of the year.

[Corey]

What?

[Andy]

Yeah, some chick named Amy Poehler won.

[Corey]

That's weird.

[Andy]

Yeah, I'm shit about it.

[Corey]

Or she.

[Andy]

I have no idea. I don't know. For. I don't know. I don't know.

[Corey]

That's weird because it's like. Yeah, you would think like with the Golden Globes, like they wouldn't like they would give it to like maybe like a. Like a celebrity that has already been in movies and TV shows and stuff.

[Andy]

Yeah. Or an actually good podcast. Like we're. Because we're number one.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Andy]

So I. Yeah.

[Drew]

Is her podcast just called Amy Poehler?

[Andy]

I don't know.

[Corey]

No one even knows.

[Andy]

No, no.

[Corey]

Who knows?

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

They should have given it is bullets.

[Andy]

Or it is weird that it was all just like celebrity podcasts.

[Corey]

That's what I'm saying.

[Andy]

Like if you're doing best podcasts, obviously we're not gonna be up there. Maybe in your guys eyes we are. Should be. Maybe it's Joe Rogan.

[Drew]

How did he not.

[Corey]

He's the number one podcast in the world.

[Andy]

Be nominated is kind of crazy. It's just like so what are the.

[Drew]

What is the.

[Andy]

What's the criteria?

[Corey]

It's just all their buddies.

[Andy]

That's their buddies, which I'm fine with. Whatever. If it's just a big celebrity hangout, but it's just weird to have that.

[Corey]

You guys already have awards.

[Josh]

Think about how weird it is, though, to broadcast it is just who they hang out with and who their friends are. But then they're going to broadcast it to everyone they don't hang out with and everybody that's not friends to be like, look at which of my friends is my favorite at this event. Yeah.

[Andy]

Do you see the drama with the Golden Globes, though?

[Josh]

No.

[Andy]

They. They had one award that they chose to because of the runtime. They said, we're not going to put this one on. They were going to do this one during a commercial break. It was the best score. What?

[Corey]

What?

[Andy]

Is that not nuts, dude, that.

[Corey]

It's like.

[Andy]

That's the spine of the movie.

[Josh]

Oh.

[Andy]

That's like, one of the best parts of the movie.

[Josh]

You can ruin a movie with that.

[Andy]

Or having none like, ruins a movie. I mean, I can't. It blows my mind.

[Josh]

I think good music can save bad acting, definitely.

[Andy]

Oh, 100%. I mean, have you ever seen a preacher speaking heresy? But he has really good music behind him.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Andy]

It was like, wow, this guy's actually got some good stuff here. There we go. Now I feel the holy spirit moving because I have chills now.

[Corey]

Dude, Drew Ski just did a skit.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Andy]

I don't know. That's in an actual church.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Corey]

That was pretty.

[Josh]

It was, like, pretty sacrileges.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Andy]

I mean, for a guy who doesn't believe.

[Corey]

Yeah. Like, we do so mocking mega churches.

[Drew]

Yeah. Which is easy to do, which we do.

[Andy]

I mean, it seems a lot of the editing and the music and stuff looked like some of the stuff that we used to do for sketches, which is kind of funny. But, I mean, that's kind of crazy that he. That was an actual church.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Corey]

That was nice.

[Josh]

We get it.

[Corey]

Part of. Parts of it were really funny. Like the cables.

[Andy]

Super funny. Them just cutting to him in the middle, and it's like all the fog machines shooting up.

[Corey]

It's crazy. Yeah. Oh, did you hear how all the people that won the Golden Globes, they got a goodie bag?

[Andy]

No.

[Corey]

A goodie bag valued at $2.1 million.

[Drew]

No shot goodness.

[Andy]

Not per bag.

[Corey]

Yes.

[Andy]

What do you mean?

[Corey]

The bag included, like, all these trips, like, to, like, Bali, Indonesia, exclusive trip to. On a yacht.

[Andy]

What?

[Corey]

And I think they Said, like, seven bottles of rare French bottles.

[Drew]

Bubbles.

[Corey]

Bubbles.

[Drew]

I've not seen a goodie bag that doesn't include bubbles.

[Corey]

Probably have bubbles and stickers, too. Yeah, but seven bottles of rare French wine and just, like, all this different.

[Josh]

What?

[Drew]

This is a duffel bag.

[Corey]

It's a big bag. It's like this big.

[Andy]

I would have felt like I won him walking away. I don't care if I would have lost.

[Corey]

So if you want a Golden Globe, you also got a bag worth $2.1 million.

[Josh]

You can also retire on 2.1 million in the bank on the interest it accrues. So I'll trade all of that to never work again.

[Drew]

Wow.

[Corey]

So that's why we didn't win Best Podcast.

[Andy]

Dang it.

[Corey]

Because they're like, these guys can't handle this.

[Andy]

Maybe next year.

[Corey]

Maybe next year, guys.

[Andy]

Come on. Gloves. We know you're watching.

[Corey]

We know.

[Andy]

Please. Come on. Come on.

[Corey]

Excuse me.

[Andy]

Whoa.

[Corey]

Did you know that it's a question corner?

[Andy]

Question corner, question corner with Corey, where the questions are fresh.

[Drew]

It's so fresh. So fresh in my mind.

[Andy]

We know you've been prepping a long time for this one.

[Drew]

I really. And the struggle is, like, I don't have, like, a strong, like, anything that's strong type of thing. I mean, again, not. Not a great question. Not super strong.

[Josh]

It's okay.

[Andy]

We practice this song for you a ton. Yeah, it's the least you could do.

[Drew]

Let's just go the. Would you rather be stranded in the ocean or stranded in the desert?

[Corey]

Have you guys done a great one? No, we've never done that.

[Drew]

Yeah, let's go. Stranded in the ocean or stranded in the desert.

[Andy]

Explain. So, like, no floaty.

[Drew]

I. I think you're allowed. Well, no, because I think I. I knew about some people that they were just posted up. I feel. I don't know. You probably can't.

[Corey]

Maybe just a life jacket or something.

[Drew]

Yeah, life jacket. Life jacket's very fun because that makes sense. Your thing capsized. You have a life jacket. They're, like, required on all water.

[Josh]

Yeah. So what's the. What do you get in the desert then? If you get a life jacket in the water, what do you get in the desert?

[Drew]

Just what you brought with you. You know, you got your pocket knife, you got a canteen.

[Josh]

I'm going water all day.

[Corey]

I'm going desert.

[Josh]

There's nothing. You can't live off of anything in the desert. Like, you can still get rained on the ocean. You have a chance of survival.

[Drew]

I'd go desert for Sure.

[Andy]

I do desert, I think too, just because I'd like the exploring more.

[Drew]

Yeah. I, I from the Midwest. I'm like, always, like, drawn to like, like Utah style looks, you know, or maybe not Utah, but Nevada, you know, desert kind of vibes where that, like.

[Josh]

Induces panic in me, like when the ocean scares me. When we were outside of Vegas, we, like, went way out there to do some nighttime photography and we were just, Just like, how far you can drive into nothing and it doesn't change.

[Drew]

Vegas is crazy too. That was the first place I ever experienced hot wind.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Like, like all wind. My entire life has been refreshing. And then there I'm walking and it was like a blow dryer. Just like.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Heating my face. Like, they have this like.

[Corey]

No, dude, no. When I lived in Southern California, they called it like the San Andreas or not. What do they call it?

[Josh]

Santa Anna.

[Corey]

Something wins. And it was just like. It was literally a blow dryer.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Like, what the. Yeah, this is like.

[Corey]

This doesn't feel good.

[Andy]

It's unpleasant.

[Josh]

Sounds like a Texas parking lot. That was the last time I felt heat coming from the ground up.

[Corey]

Anyways, Florida is the best state in the world.

[Andy]

It truly is.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Did you see the thing? Why? Or were you. You were telling me why Florida, man. Yeah, you were telling us why Florida stories exist as opposed to other states.

[Andy]

Yeah, because when I moved here, I was just like, you have this expectation of like, we're moving from Missouri. So we're just like, man, this is going to be wild. Just, we're going to see some wild stuff. Which I did. I saw somebody draw a John Deere lawnmower into a Walmart one time. Into it, into it. It wasn't on on, but it was. They were driving it. It was like they were using it as their, like, cart thing and they had to stop them at the front.

[Drew]

But so they were like, fully. Yeah, this is fine.

[Andy]

Yeah. So. But apparently, like, Florida has some type of law with, you know, police records that they have to almost immediately get released compared to a lot of states. But they're like, Georgia's similar. There's. I can't remember, but it's basically any types of cop show that you used to watch back in the day. And you're like, why do I keep seeing the same states over and again? It's because they're legally required to release body cam footage and news stories and police records, arrests, all that stuff almost immediately. So it just goes out. So they. People would just grab stuff right off and like, oh, this is a great headline. And they would just have so much content to pull from. So all these news places would just see it and grab it and then post about it. And then so it just became this. And because we have alligators here, I mean, obviously you're gonna have some crazy stuff. And we have. Have such a melting pot of different, you know, cultures and upbringings. I mean, you're bound to get some weird stories, but this, that stuff happens everywhere. Everywhere.

[Drew]

Speaking of crime.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Drew]

And police stories, did you guys hear about the guy that had a bunch of freaking human bones in his house?

[Corey]

Yeah, I heard about it and I didn't look into it at all.

[Andy]

No, I haven't.

[Drew]

All right, so this dude, his name's Jonathan Gerlock. And what's very, like, weird about. I mean, there's a lot of weird stuff in this whole thing. The thing that really triggered me immediately was like, they showed a photo of this dude, and he has very well done tattoos, like, all on his neck and, like, very well done tattoos. So I'm like, dude, there's a tattoo artist that's been posted up having conversation with this dude, living life, just talking with him. And so Jonathan Gerlach Gerlock is out in Pennsylvania. And so he is a straight up grave robber.

[Corey]

Oh.

[Drew]

He found this, like, pretty large abandoned cemetery. Like, it's just like a place like one of the older ones that, like, people don't. They just stop kind of taking care of it. It's just there. And he was going busting down mausoleums, taking skulls, taking full corpses, digging up graves. And like, people were starting to notice, and they're like, this is weird. Like, stuff. Like, there's like, they'd, like, people would come visit the graves or, like, they'd walk. Like, a lot of people, like, walk cemeteries. Just, like, because it's like a track type of vibe. Yeah.

[Andy]

It's romantic.

[Drew]

Yeah, it's beautiful. And. And they're like, whoa, like. Like, that mausoleum's busted open or, oh, that grave's been dug up or something.

[Corey]

They're like.

[Drew]

And so how they caught the guy, which is kind of interesting, is they just did a sting. They, like, the cops just posted up and were, like, watching the graveyard. And then they found him. This dude freaking, like, he had a bag, like, with a burlap sack. Obviously, there's no other sack. You can. You're not bringing a duffel bag or a backpack for your bones, only burlap sack. And he had this burlap sack, and he's scooting along with his freaking bones. And so then they're like, yo, this guy's got bones. This is not good. They check his house, and they find hundreds of skeletons in his basement. And as well as they find a freaking storage unit because he's just. I'm running out of room. I need to rent a storage unit.

[Andy]

What?

[Drew]

And the. I think I was looking for the video earlier, and it got. I think it might have been taken down because someone had, like, a video of this inside of the storage unit. And like. Like. Like the just bodies, like, mummified little people. Like, some of them are wearing, like, the suits and stuff.

[Josh]

Oh.

[Drew]

And just, like, posted up, like, against the wall, like, all rigid and. And intense.

[Andy]

Oh, my goodness.

[Josh]

And wasn't it. I thought I saw a thing. I can't remember if it was 500 bags or 500 bodies he had acquired. It was, like, substantial.

[Drew]

Well, here.

[Andy]

What was he doing with.

[Corey]

What was he doing with them? Did he. Do they know?

[Drew]

Yeah. It gets way freaking more worse.

[Josh]

I don't know.

[Andy]

I assumed he would, like, work for a cemetery. And they're like, we just need to make room.

[Drew]

He was selling them on Instagram.

[Andy]

What?

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Andy]

So what a crazy Instagram ad you would have to get.

[Drew]

Dude. Oh, my gosh. So his IG account, he has an inappropriate name that. But it's dead blank daddy. And here I'll just, like.

[Corey]

Right on the nose, not even hiding it.

[Drew]

Yeah, dude. So I don't know how. How do I showcase these things? Can I. Should I throw my phone?

[Andy]

Can you send it to the chat? Can screenshot and send it to the chat.

[Drew]

Yeah. So here would I do a screen recording and just.

[Andy]

Yeah, and then just send that to the group chat. That's crazy, man.

[Drew]

But, yeah, this dude, like, aesthetic photos of these bones selling them. And then in the caption, he's. He'll be like. He'll, like, talk about the thing, and he's like, if you know, you know, like, just like, clearly implying like, yo, dude, these are. And. And it. It was like, unfortunately, even, like, children bones.

[Josh]

Yeah, I saw that. They're like infants. He was, like, digging up everything.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Corey]

And is this, like, people were buying them?

[Drew]

Yeah, dude. Also, when I. So I followed the account, and it was like, you have a mutual follower. And it was like this other tattoo friend that I know, which I'm like, it literally makes that this guy follows him.

[Josh]

Like.

[Drew]

Like, this dude, he does, like, all horror tattoos. And, like, like, his nickname is Rat. Like, this guy that I know.

[Corey]

And so did he buy any Bodies.

[Drew]

I. I don't know. His name's Rat.

[Corey]

Hey, but I ain't. I ain't one.

[Andy]

Call me it, but. Don't call me it, but.

[Drew]

So. So they. They capture this guy. He's got a ridiculous rap sheet of, like, charges. Like. Like, I don't know what it. What. I have, like, a little screenshot of this thing, but it's like 1626 counts of burglar. Burglary, Burglary. I cannot say Hamburglar. Yeah, he's got 26 counts of that, but he's got all these other charges. Some of them are like a hundred counts of this other charge. Another 100 counts, another.

[Corey]

Like, how do you get 100 counts of anything?

[Drew]

Yeah, you get 100 freaking bones, dude. And right now his bail is $1 million cash. That. That's his bail. So I don't know how I don't get arrested.

[Andy]

So we're Gonna link the GoFundMe below to help him.

[Corey]

The bones are his money. That's crazy.

[Drew]

Is a group chat on Instagram? Is that where text.

[Corey]

All right.

[Josh]

Yeah, don't open the video that I put in there.

[Drew]

Okay, cool. I'll swing this over just to the group. But yeah, I. That was like. It just blows my mind that this dude looks like low key regular, like, because he's like. Like, I'm used to like, some crazy dude with like, prison tats, like that type of stuff. Like, yeah, I collect bones in the freaking graveyard. I'm like, sure, I. You do, but. But then this dude's, like, getting tattooed, and I'm like, hey, man, how's it going? Like, what are you up to these days? Like, oh, not much, you know, just hanging out with my girlfriend, man. We had this account that's kind of cool that I do. So with bones. Like, wow. Bones, neat. Wow.

[Andy]

Yeah, he just looks like a normal dude.

[Josh]

The creepier thing to me is, like, money is a motivator for all kinds of weird stuff. The weirder part to me is the fact that he had a lucrative little thing going. Yeah, it's like people were like, I want these in my home.

[Corey]

Yeah, that's even more concerning.

[Andy]

Yeah, that's the twisted thing. There's a ton of, like, YouTube channels that are, like, have post really weird content that a lot of, like, true crime guys have done a deep dive on. And it's like, you know, look, you look at the comments, you can tell there is a huge group of people, a demographic that feed off of this content. And it's like, it's so Disturbing that it's just out there and you have no idea. This guy like, looks like a guy that would just work at your local grocery store or whatever. And it's like you would never think.

[Josh]

In a million years saw a travel guy who'd like, what are the like the shrunk head things that like. And he was like. He was like, oh, these are real. And he was like handling them in his clip. And I was like, like, no, like this. This. This content isn't. Shouldn't be made.

[Andy]

I mean, that does look like you, Josh. Hey, that's you.

[Corey]

Okay, so that is terrifying.

[Drew]

Yeah, just play it.

[Josh]

Did he.

[Corey]

Did he say that they were real bones?

[Drew]

No, that's what he was just saying, like, if you know. You know, for like the. The things.

[Josh]

Oh, my.

[Drew]

Implying, like if you know that these are real, actual humans that used to be alive, now they're not. And they. You want to hold their bones. They're like, well, taken photos. Like, he's like. Like some of them. I think deeper down he was even doing some weird carvings into some of them, which is terrible.

[Corey]

That's terror. That's so freaky.

[Josh]

Cat guy.

[Drew]

Yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah.

[Andy]

He literally just says in his bio, human and animal remains. It's like, not. Okay.

[Drew]

Not hiding.

[Andy]

Yeah, that's wild, man.

[Drew]

But just robbing graves. Dude.

[Josh]

Dude. Thanks for harshing the vibe, Corey.

[Corey]

Yeah, speaking of Robin Graves.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Corey]

Andrew, his will that be? I'm a robber.

[Andy]

Oh, no. I' ma steal your bones.

[Josh]

Please don't.

[Corey]

Andrew's got a ring and he's gonna show. Oh, right.

[Josh]

No, that was a weird spot to stop it.

[Drew]

That was slick.

[Josh]

Thalassophobia or megalophobia. So we're. We're going to start this video at the same exact time I stole this segment from the basement yard. They reacted to this video and I was like, oh, it fell.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Drew]

And we're saying no audio. Is that just across the board? Always no audio.

[Josh]

No this one. So it's going to play the aud. Cuz there's no. There's no like, song that's going to get this flagged.

[Corey]

So basement yard.

[Josh]

They. They reacted to this. Apparently kind of like you guys also said, like, they hate big things. Deep water. And this is just a video that's meant to generate anxiety.

[Andy]

Cool. Perfect.

[Josh]

Based on that.

[Corey]

You ready? All right, ready? Three, two, one, go.

[Josh]

So we got someone falling off a huge ship.

[Andy]

Someone gonna jump out at me.

[Drew]

Dude, is it gonna be a bluegill?

[Josh]

There's like an angler fish somewhere.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Josh]

There's the angler. Fish, you're already in trouble if that thing is swimming up past you.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Oh, that's the last thing I want to say, dude.

[Josh]

When that. When that happened in the video, I lost it.

[Andy]

I just saw my own reflection in.

[Josh]

The blue and it scared me.

[Drew]

Oh, and it loops.

[Josh]

No, it doesn't loop.

[Drew]

Oh, too bad. They missed the opportunity, man.

[Andy]

That's no fun at all.

[Corey]

Yep, that was scary.

[Andy]

He's a big floating old man.

[Josh]

I'm just hoping that one of our viewers is watching this, like, in the dark at midnight.

[Corey]

You know, deep water scares me. Cold water scares me. Dark water scares me.

[Josh]

Were you scared of, like, the deep end when you were really little in a pool? I remember that freaked me out. When I was, like, little. Little maybe.

[Corey]

I don't know.

[Josh]

I was just convinced that there were things deeper than I could see.

[Corey]

I think my fear developed, though. I think I've talked about it before. When I was in elementary, probably third grade or something, we were tubing on our lake, and it was one of those, like, older inner tubes to where it's like the tube and then, like, the nylon thing wraps around it.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Corey]

So sitting in the middle of it, and it popped off and my foot got stuck. And my dad didn't see that I had fallen off, so he just kept on going. I was underwater.

[Andy]

He's like, no.

[Corey]

Literally, ever since then, I've been like, yeah, water's not been my favorite.

[Josh]

Yeah, dude. What. What's the kind of therapy? Exposure therapy.

[Drew]

Yeah, put. You put them back in, we jump in.

[Josh]

We gotta go surf, dude.

[Andy]

Yeah. For all. For a person that's scared of water, you're pretty unafraid of jumping in water on unknown bodies of water.

[Corey]

Yeah. It's just conquering fears.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Do you guys know of aqua donkeys or to.

[Corey]

It's impressed Timothy Alberino?

[Andy]

I mean, that'll. You will about do about anything for that.

[Corey]

I'll jump off a ship into an old man in the ocean.

[Andy]

Sure, why not?

[Corey]

Water donkey.

[Drew]

No, Aqua donkeys. It's. It's. This is not a conspiracy. This is just a great thing. And I want all people to know about agua donkeys as much as I possibly can.

[Andy]

Sure, why not?

[Drew]

It's just this, like, short film that this guy M.P. cunningham put together that's just hilarious. You can watch it on YouTube now, which I'm very grateful for. All you guys would really enjoy it. But there's a portion in it.

[Corey]

Oh, yes. Yeah. The tall guy.

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, dude.

[Drew]

It's so funny. I. It's the essence.

[Corey]

He's really. He's the guy that did the. That skit. Long time. He's like, are you pregnant?

[Andy]

The blonde guy? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They did, like, a swimming pool video.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Remember?

[Drew]

Yeah, yeah. But there's a part where he's like, dude, we gotta get you to overcome your fears. And he's like, what are you afraid of? He's like, like, you know when, like, people are welding, they say you don't look at it. And. And so then he's like, we got to get you over that, dude. And so then they're like, he's, like, staring at this guy welding. And then like, it's his dude, Jer. And he's like. Says to mp, like, oh, why aren't you looking? He's like, oh, I'm not scared of that stuff, dude. So he's like, doesn't have to look because he's not afraid of it.

[Corey]

Just burning his.

[Drew]

Yeah, dude, it is peak comedy. So good. If you have ever skateboarded or done anything like that, you're gonna love it. And if you like to laugh, you should.

[Corey]

He's a really funny guy, dude.

[Drew]

It's so good.

[Corey]

Speaking of not so funny.

[Andy]

What?

[Corey]

We have a little update on the Venezuela.

[Andy]

What's going on?

[Drew]

I get all my animals from you guys, so this is gonna be great.

[Andy]

It's very accurate.

[Drew]

From the horse's mouth.

[Corey]

So this is neither confirmed nor denied.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Corey]

But there's this interviewer or something that apparently interviewed one of the guards on the compound where Madero was taken.

[Andy]

Okay. On U.S. soil?

[Corey]

No, in Venezuela.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Soon to be U.S. soil.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Corey]

But I actually talked to someone that we know about this, and he's like, yeah, this isn't anything new. This is. This. We've had this for a while.

[Andy]

What?

[Corey]

I'm just going to read the account because it's crazy.

[Andy]

Okay?

[Corey]

So I don't want to butcher anything. This account is from a Venezuelan security guard loyal to Nicholas Maduro. It's absolutely chilling and explains a lot about why the tone across Latin America suddenly changed. Security guard. On the day of the operation, we didn't hear anything coming. We were on guard, but suddenly all our radar systems shut down without any explanation. The next thing we saw were drones, lots of drones flying over our positions. We didn't know how to react. Interviewer says, so what happened next? How was the main attack? Security guard after those drones appeared? Some helicopters arrived, but there were very few. I think barely eight helicopters. From those helicopters Soldiers came down, but a very small number, maybe 20 men. But those men were technologically very advanced. They didn't look like anything we fought against before. Interviewer what? And then the battle began. SECURITY GUARD yes, it was a massacre. We were hundreds, but we had no chance. They were shooting with such precision and speed. It seemed like each soldier was firing 300 rounds per minute. We couldn't do anything. INTERVIEWER what is happening? And in your own, in your, your own weapons, didn't they help?

[Josh]

Help?

[Corey]

SECURITY guard no help at all. Because it wasn't just the weapons. At one point they launched something. I don't know how to describe it. It was like a very intense sound wave. Suddenly I felt like my head was exploding from the inside. We all started bleeding from the nose. Some were vomiting blood. We fell to the ground, unable to move.

[Josh]

Yeah, dude.

[Corey]

And then an interviewer says, the interview said, in your comrades, did they manage to resist? Security GUARD says, no, not at all. Those 20 men with, without a single casualty killed hundreds of us. We had no way to compete with their technology, with their weapons. I swear, I have never seen anything like it. We couldn't even stand up against the sonic weapons or whatever it was. And it goes on, but he's just like, if you, he. Let me just read this part. Security GUARD Also said, said I'm sending a warning to anyone who thinks they can fight the United States. This is where it starts sounding a little bit like propaganda. Yeah, I'm sending a warning to anyone who thinks they can fight against the United States. They have no idea what they're capable. Capable of. After what I saw, I never want to be on the other side of that again. They're not to be messed with.

[Drew]

Dang.

[Corey]

And then, yeah, he goes on about other stuff, but.

[Andy]

What?

[Josh]

We have the weapon, dude. Dude.

[Corey]

Well, yeah, I talked to our buddy, which I tell you afterwards, I don't know if he's allowed to say it is, but he's like, we use that exact weapon in the early Iraq wars.

[Josh]

No way.

[Corey]

Yeah. He said, we've had that for a long time.

[Andy]

The sonic weapon. Yeah, well, I mean, it's Havana syndrome, right?

[Corey]

It sounds a lot like it.

[Andy]

Yeah, dude.

[Josh]

Maybe just like crazy. Different intensities, different frequencies because certain frequencies travel further. So I wonder if like, like, like the one Havana was like lose hair, lose teeth. And so I wonder if they change the frequency if they can like precisely hit a spot.

[Corey]

Yeah, the Havana syndrome, that's like more like long distance frequency, but like, you don't even. It like causes like brain damage. Brain damage. This kind of sounds like it was like a. Yeah. Which I know they use those, like, cannons for, like, crowd controls and stuff, because. Remember that.

[Andy]

Sure. Yeah.

[Corey]

But this sounds like it.

[Andy]

Was it hurting you neurologically?

[Corey]

Way more intense, dude. If they're bleeding from their nose instantly, bro.

[Andy]

And that's crazy ground.

[Drew]

My gosh. It's like Tim Albarino stuff, like when the.

[Corey]

The Peru.

[Drew]

Yeah, that's what it reminded me of. Like, were they.

[Josh]

Were they bleeding?

[Drew]

No, but it's just like the type of, like, with. With his story.

[Corey]

Like, the technology that these.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Corey]

And possessed.

[Drew]

They weren't aliens. That they were people.

[Andy]

People.

[Drew]

Yeah, that was like, the whole thing. And it's like. Oh, my gosh, dude.

[Corey]

It's weird.

[Andy]

What about the super soldiers? What about these guys that had crazy equipment that were unstoppable, killing hundreds of people?

[Corey]

What if our super soldiers now are just. Have the nephilim DNA in them?

[Andy]

I think they're just aliens. Like, just people that they've just built.

[Josh]

I'm kind of hung up on the nosebleed section part of it. Because that's. Stranger Things is heavy. Well, that.

[Drew]

That was literally, like, the vibe. And they had that. That was their thing. That was her. They had the sonic thing that stopped.

[Andy]

Her from her powers. Yeah, yeah.

[Drew]

And fell on the ground, wiggled around in pain and bleeding from the nose or whatever.

[Josh]

Well, the. The engineer who was, like, behind the Montauk project and like, kind of whistleblow, allegedly, on a lot of that stuff was he was an electrical engineer who specialized on radio frequencies. And so his whole thing was in the. In the 80s, focusing on this thing. They. They focused radio waves on the. On a specific chair where the. The viewers would sit in the chair and they would put cert. They found, like, certain frequencies could make someone, like, pliable or could amplify psychic powers. And so it was, like, very, very intentional. They were playing with, like, how much energy to send, what frequency to send it. And based on those certain things, they were able to do other things. And I'm trying to remember there was a. There was a DoD budget, and when they were trying to fund this project, allegedly, it was like, I forget how many millions upon millions of dollars. But the promise that they made with all these experiments is that they could. They could with a click of a button. Cause schizophrenia, like, that. That was. That was the thing that they were playing with.

[Corey]

Something like that.

[Josh]

But like. But you think about, like, Havana, like you're losing your mind. And, like. So imagine if there's A frequency. Like, we just need to be. Like, we just need them to go along with it. You hit them with one frequency. No, we need this person to lose it.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Josh]

But so, like, I'm gonna just go ahead and transition. And I was, like, researching just behind Stranger Things. I think it's kind of fun to look at the. The story behind all of it. There's, like, three key players, like, three different testimonies. One of the guys. One of the guys seems kind of like he was making up some stuff, maybe just trying to, you know, get whatever. Trying to sell books. Yeah. Who knows? But the thing is, some of the. I'm not going to say what it is, but some of the trauma that allegedly happened with some of these. Some of these experiments and some of these projects, it's like, it'd be hard for someone who went through the trauma probably, to recount everything without having some mental barriers up. And so, like, I don't want to say this person's crazy or isn't telling the truth, but I'll admit the beginning of the story, there are bits of the details that don't add up. But if you remember, there was that ship in the early 1900s that they went off the coast. They tried to, like, create a port or they.

[Corey]

Philadelphia experiment.

[Josh]

Yeah. They did a portal. Well, allegedly, two dudes jumped off the ship. They say when they hit. They did. They were trying to jump in the water as the ship was blowing up or doing whatever it was doing, and they fell through time. And the story is one of the dudes says he woke up in the 80s and was being experimented on as part of the Montauk project. Like, he fell through time and arrived here. The dude who tells the story that I'm more closely like. Like, it would be easier for me to accept as. As something to believe. I just realized that I just got back from a doctor's appointment, and those are the notes that are open on my phone.

[Corey]

I am healthy.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Nice.

[Josh]

No, shoot. Hold up. Glad I took. I wrote down.

[Corey]

I will say what if the. The guard. Actually, none of that actually happened, but he was just watching Stranger Things and just got knocked out.

[Andy]

That's the last thing he remembers.

[Corey]

This is what happened.

[Andy]

Also, I was a girl with superpowers. Yeah. But their sound thing wouldn't let me use my powers.

[Drew]

She had a sick scuba suit.

[Josh]

Okay, so the. The scientist name is Preston Nichols and shout out old school Y files and Pandox. Dude, I organize on pen and paper. I do it way better. But yeah, those two videos on YouTube will say this a lot better than I'm about to, but Preston Nichols is the scientist. This is where the story gets crazy. So he starts talking about this chair that they use. You sit in the chair. So someone like 11 or some kid or some person, they. They're trying to remote view similar to all this stuff, they all say these documents don't exist. But what's really interesting about this is we know that like MK Ultra, all of those. Not all of those files, but almost.

[Corey]

All those files, like over 90% got.

[Josh]

Destroyed in the 70s. And so it makes sense historically. Like, do we got millions of dollars thrown at these projects? Do they go away? Do they just say, oh, we're done? Or do they.

[Andy]

That's what experiments are. They begin and then they end.

[Corey]

Right.

[Drew]

And you throw them in the trash.

[Josh]

But so. So, I mean, it checks out that a very similarly aligned project would. It's like the evolution of something we know existed.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And after they got exposed, it would make sense that records don't exist. Or like we got busted for, you know, not deleting files last time.

[Corey]

Probably like privatized and. Yeah, yeah.

[Josh]

So they. There, there is a history of moving the research that way. Anyway, so now we're in the 80s and we have this project going on. Camp Hero is where it's happening. There is this chair. This is the doctor or the engineer who is doing these radio experiments. What they said is that people, they were able to use frequencies to help people to see through the eyes of other people. They called it the seeing eye or the seeing chair. But what's. Dude, what's crazy is they said there was people who were doing it, started to see a beast in the peripheral of the room. Room, yuck. Or in the thing. But if they focused on it, that's when it would come to fruition. But if they ignored it, it would minimize.

[Drew]

Wow.

[Josh]

But there's even like testimonies. And again, this is all alleged, but that this beast came to real fruition. And it's one of the reasons the. The lab and the experiment shut down because it became too much to handle. But they're even saying while they're using these radio frequencies, they're like, think of an apple. They'd see it on a screen, like somehow through electrodes and whatnot. They would, you know, visualize the apple. It's on the computer screen. Then they started noticing that this thing is like starting out as a hologram and then becoming material in the room. They're like, how are these. How is this Is it a portal? Is something that did exist there, not there anymore, and is here now? Or are we creating things like, they started to ask all these questions, but then that creature began appearing and materializing. The scariest part of the story, and this will be most particularly scary to you, is that the person to see through the eyes of another person often had to hold hair from the person that they were trying to view, which is exactly what you do in the Santeria. Santeria. And so they say in that practice, the taking of someone's hair is to take a part of their soul.

[Corey]

Soul.

[Josh]

And if eyes are the windows to the soul and you want to see through someone else's soul, you sit in this chair, attached to these frequencies, and then you'd literally have the power to possess in some way their soul by holding the hair.

[Drew]

Dude, the.

[Andy]

That way monks have no hair.

[Drew]

Hey, Wisdom.

[Andy]

I mean, come on.

[Drew]

But the telepathy tapes where, like, that was a pretty common thing where they. These kids were seen through someone else's eyes and being like, which I'm like, dude, I'm like, locked in the telepathy tapes. I basically believe all of it. Yes. Yeah, but. But, yeah, like, so it's like, okay, well, that's a thing. So.

[Josh]

Yeah, well, so you get MK Ultra, where they're trying. They're using psychedelics to try to enter this world. Then you get, I think it was project often where they start to mix in witchcraft and occultism, and then everything gets exposed and quote, unquote, goes away, and it evolves into Seeing Eye, which is part of the Montauk project. Camp Hero. And in the 80s, Camp Hero gets shut down. Allegedly the monster that comes to some sort of fruition. Everything falls apart. Well, Camp Hero is now a state park, and the entire underground of Camp Hero has been cemented in.

[Corey]

Yeah. Well, even from the Montauk thing, like, you get Project Stargate, right. Where it's like the actual remote viewing. Remote viewing. So it's like. It seems like it's like, like little bits and pieces were taken off and perfected. Perfected. Perfected.

[Josh]

Yep.

[Corey]

Because the Stargate, that. I mean, that was a legit real thing that.

[Andy]

Yeah, I mean, those. Why the experiments happen. So they can. I mean, at the end of it, they can learn.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Andy]

And say, okay, what's the next step? How do we harness these things?

[Corey]

Yeah, it sounds like Montauk was. They combined a bunch of the supernatural spookiness with the, like, scientific stuff, which is.

[Andy]

I mean, makes sense for Stranger Things. Which was originally named Montauk Yeah, but you have. You see so many representations. How it all started was the Philadelphia Experiment. You have remote viewing, you have all of this stuff. You have. I mean, it's kind of crazy.

[Corey]

Isn't that a little annoying, though? Because then it's just like they made a show and so now if you talk about it, like conspiracy people just like, oh, well, it's just like Stranger Things. It's like, well, no, Stranger Things.

[Josh]

They're covering off of something. Yeah.

[Andy]

They didn't just come up. These are original ideas.

[Josh]

So let me read to you this write up on Santeria and why taking hair without consent is serious. If someone secretly takes your hair, it's considered, quote, a spiritual attack or intrusion, an attempt to influence your destiny, or a breach that may require cleansing or counter rituals. So, like, literally. That's so weird.

[Corey]

It was that night.

[Josh]

I don't think Corey knows the story.

[Corey]

So I had this friend in high school and his father or stepfather was a priest in Santeria, which is like the voodoo not good stuff. And I was witnessing to my friend, like, really. And he was like, really starting to pursue Christ and stuff. And his stepdad hated it. And like, my friend would have to like, hide his Bible. Then when you find it, he would throw it away. And they did. I mean, it was. Looking back, I'm like, this is crazy. And like, it's even wild that my.

[Josh]

Parents let me go to this place, like, sacrificing chickens and weird.

[Corey]

Sacrificing chickens. But they had like a closet of like all the. These idols and teeth and stuff. And like, on birthdays they would like, put cake in front of them all. And like, anyways, we're in their driveway one day, he walks up behind me, yanks out a chunk of hair.

[Drew]

The dad.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Corey]

And I'm like, oh. And we're all like, why'd you do that? And he's like, well, I just wanted to keep it. And he just puts in his pocket and didn't think anything of it. And then that night, literally that night, I had the most, like, realistic nightmare I've ever had in my life to where I was getting a call and it was from my friend. But then, like, the words change or something. And then it said like, satan.

[Drew]

Wow.

[Corey]

And I'm like. And then, like, I answered it and then all on the other side of the phone, you just hear.

[Josh]

Like, that.

[Corey]

I couldn't pull the phone away from my ear and I was just stricken with fear, dude. And I, like, I woke up and I mean, I was. Was so Afraid. I went and got my parents and I literally. I couldn't stop crying for like two hours. I was like shaking.

[Drew]

That's real spiritual warfare. Yeah, that stuff, like ticks me off. Like, I'm like, gosh dang it, dude. Like, did you want to like physically fight? But you know that prayer is like the proper fight.

[Corey]

Yeah, dude. But then like after that, he. He.

[Josh]

What? Season one. Oh, yeah, that's the incident that happens when Joyce gets a call from the other side and it's Will trying to talk, but she's like, it's the same thing where she picks up a phone and it's. It's the beast on the other side.

[Andy]

And then it like shocks her, doesn't it? Yeah, yeah.

[Corey]

Anyways, this my friend, it was like really, like right after that incident and we hung out like every day. And then all of a sudden I couldn't get a hold of him. And I went to his house, our house is cleared out. And I found out, like, I think like a week or two in, I finally got a hold of him. Like, dude, where are you? He's like, I'm back in Miami. Or my dad brought me to Miami. He's like, I can't talk to you ever again, dude.

[Andy]

We got what we needed.

[Drew]

It makes me so mad that, like, that is darkness, dude. That is like what the enemy wants to do. He steals, kills, and destroys boys. And it's like, man, like, it. It fires me up for sure where I'm like, dude, I just want to like, tell people about Jesus and like bring truth. Like, there's so many people I know that like, have these huge bondages, you know, in their life. And I'm like, Jesus, Jesus will solve these problems. And like, if you could just like give your life to him, you know, then everything's gonna be different, you know, like, you're more that you're going to begin to walk in freedom. And like, it's. It is like what we were talking about earlier about like these curses and different things. It's like this dude is living in full blown bondage. And yeah, the actual enemy is trying to destroy his life, Tear him away. The gospel and good news is being poured out upon him. Hungers for it and then, and then. And it. It's a tough thing because he's under authority of his dad.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Drew]

And so you said it was his actual dad, his stepdad. Still. It's like, yeah, I. I really believe, like, the spirit world is fairly legalistic. You kind of see it play out in the old Testament a lot clearer because it's like larger stories where you start to kind of see like, the legality of how things work in the spirit realm. And, and so like, there's like these hard things where it's like in the past, I used to just think, like, whatever, man. Like, Jesus wins, so just say Jesus and everything's fine and Jesus does win. But. But there's. There's more to it.

[Corey]

Sure.

[Drew]

Like, things are. There's a process to things. And that's why when I was speaking earlier on, like coming to an agreement with a lie or something, it's like you've. There's these like, legalized things that are going on. And so I'm like, dang, this dude's like stuck in a rough spot because there is an actual governmental authority over him that he can't really like. It just makes it harder. Yeah, yeah. You know that like, he. He doesn't have the, like, the full blown free will to be like. Like, no, I'm not leaving. You know, like, yeah, he has to.

[Josh]

High school. Yeah.

[Andy]

And.

[Drew]

And so it's just so tough, dude. I mean, my heart burns for that dude. I like, you know, like, want to pray for him and, and see Jesus show up in his life. Because I know that Jesus can overcome all things and he can shut down that darkness and shut it down in a big way and goodness.

[Corey]

Yeah. Dude, it's crazy.

[Josh]

The thing that had me hung up thinking about the Seeing Eye chair and, and you know, the, the process by which they're figuring this out. Science guy, engineer, trying to do all of this stuff. But at some point, like, if I was like, trying to get you to see through someone else's eyes, what am I going to give you? Let me give you a photo. This person, maybe a garment they wore. This smell, this is their essence. Gave them hair. Yeah. Where you learn that?

[Corey]

Yeah, I practice san.

[Josh]

Right.

[Andy]

Got no crystal.

[Corey]

I ain't got no gris. Speaking of crystal ball, I'm gonna curse him.

[Josh]

I'd be honored if that got flagged right there.

[Corey]

For real.

[Drew]

Like, wow, perfect.

[Corey]

This. This fits in really well and it's really spooky and I really don't like it.

[Andy]

Is this about the book?

[Corey]

This is about the book.

[Drew]

Book.

[Corey]

There's this book that came out in the 1970s called called Mind War, the Psychology of Victory.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Corey]

And this book was written by a. I believe he was a colonel in the US Army. He was army psyop, Psychological operations officer. Worked in information warfare and military intelligence. But he wrote this book Called Mind War.

[Andy]

Michael Aquino.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Yeah, I figured. You say the name of the guy.

[Corey]

I'm setting it up.

[Andy]

All right.

[Corey]

His name is Michael Aquino. Oh, wow.

[Josh]

Yep.

[Corey]

But this book is about. I could have said his name. That's what I'm saying.

[Andy]

That was like a fun reveal at the end. And his name was Michael Aquino.

[Corey]

We're like, his name was Joe Biden. Just kidding. But this book was all about psychological warfare, information control and perception management. And it basically. Let's see. It argues that modern conflict is no longer one primarily through bullets and bombs, but through shaping beliefs, narratives, and morale checks. And so he wrote this book in the 70s, but this man was an open Satanist.

[Andy]

Neat.

[Corey]

Very much practicing of a Satanist man. He even started this one movement or this one church. Did I put it down? No, I didn't put it down, but it was basically a. Yeah, I didn't put it down. He started this one church that was a Satanist church. And you should see pictures of this dude. He like.

[Josh]

I mean, he.

[Corey]

If you're.

[Andy]

Temple of Set is what it's called.

[Josh]

That's it.

[Corey]

Yeah. Temple set. But this dude, I mean, he like, he curls his eyebrows up and it's just like. He's like, okay, if you weren't a Satanist, you sure do look like.

[Andy]

Just curl their eyebrows.

[Corey]

But it's this. This whole book. But what's. What I found was crazy, is that the US Military were big proponents of this book. Like, they, like, studied this book.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Corey]

And even this man, who is a major general, so Major General Paul E. Valley, the skateboarder, he was like a huge proponent of this book. He would, like, go around and, like, do like, seminars and stuff. And like this book, Mind Warp, we have to be. You know, it's all about psychological warfare and controlling the narrative.

[Andy]

That's our new handbook, basically.

[Corey]

Yeah. And like, just. I mean, for years he's been pumping this book.

[Josh]

Look.

[Drew]

Yeah. I mean, manipulation. I've heard a lot of people talk about, like, manipulation is witchcraft.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Like, that's the. Like, if you, like, really break it down where it's like if manipulating people's minds to. To work in your direction without them understanding or knowing, it's like, that's witchcraft, dude. You're, like, using these witchcraft type of tactics, which. That's like, not even hiding it. So I was reading the Satanic Bible and.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Found out about witchcraft. Let's do that.

[Corey]

But what is coincidence? Maybe, maybe not. This Major General Paul E. Valeli, who's a big proponent of this Book. Some said he even seems like he was like co author of this book of like how much he knew about this book.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Corey]

He is on the board of directors for TP usa.

[Drew]

The Toilet Paper usa. Right. That's what you referenced.

[Corey]

Toilet Paper usa.

[Andy]

What?

[Corey]

The Kirks. Charlie Kirk. Kirk?

[Josh]

How?

[Andy]

No way.

[Corey]

He's on the board of directors for TP usa still consultant for TP usa. Consultant and on the board of directors.

[Josh]

How?

[Andy]

Yeah, that's my question. Like why? Why as well? Like why would that. Why would you want to.

[Drew]

Yeah. Because it wouldn't align with any of your belief system.

[Corey]

When did he.

[Josh]

When did that happen?

[Corey]

I don't know, but I just.

[Josh]

What's his. What's his name? Sorry.

[Corey]

General. Major General Paul E. Valely. It's V A L L E L Y.

[Drew]

And he was the homie gassing up the book.

[Andy]

Right.

[Corey]

He's like, this is a great book. We gotta start doing this leve.

[Andy]

Oh, wait. Sorry. Golly. I'm looking at something else. Yeah, just that book looks wild thought architecture, like building thoughts inside of people's minds.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Andy]

That's scary, dude.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Andy]

And you don't think that people are using this? The military modern day is using this.

[Corey]

And I'm not totally are. I'm not saying TP USA is under some crazy whatever. No, I mean I'm just saying that's.

[Andy]

A weird thing to have somebody on.

[Corey]

A consulting major general who is a big proponent of this book. Mine War.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Corey]

Is on the board of directors and a consultant for manipulation and narrative control. Goodness, it's just weird.

[Andy]

Was he part of the set Temple set people?

[Corey]

No, I don't believe so.

[Andy]

That's strange, man.

[Corey]

Yeah. Speaking of strange to. I tried to look this up and it said no, it's not real. But I'm like, why are you faking this with the CIA documentary?

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Corey]

About the.

[Andy]

It looks like the emp.

[Corey]

So there's this. Someone found this old video. Not that old. And it was filmed in the CIA and it was this lady giving this seminar about EMPs, the Electric Magnetic pulse attacks or whatever. And the person giving the presentation was Erica Kirk.

[Drew]

Oh, I. Yeah, I saw a clip of that. Yeah. You saying someone was saying that's not real or it is.

[Corey]

Well, that's just what AI said. They said it. It is. She was talking about EMPs, but they can't confirm that it was part of a CIA documentary.

[Andy]

Why would you be talking about EMPs? Why is she talking about EMPs? That's such a strange thing.

[Corey]

Oh, you're probably confused because, yeah, there's no CIA documentary, but like she was talking about EMPs in that clip. So you probably got them confused that she was part of this thing.

[Andy]

AI ticks me regardless.

[Drew]

All the freaking.

[Andy]

Why, like, does she have a background in EMPs? She went from beauty pageants. Peas.

[Josh]

What's going on?

[Andy]

What are we doing?

[Josh]

What's going on? Also, whenever I'm using Chad GPT to find the links between Paul. I'm just going to call him Paul. Paul and Turning Point usa. All the pages which are linked in chat GBT are page not found. Like stuff's been pulled.

[Corey]

We probably got out there now.

[Andy]

I don't like it.

[Corey]

Yeah. So found that super weird.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Corey]

Do with that what you will.

[Andy]

Well, I mean, what do we got?

[Corey]

I'm just saying both sides, they create their own narrative and they try to control what's going on.

[Andy]

They're all trying to get to the top.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

But also, who has done a seminar on video about EMPs at one point?

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Corey]

Yes. Yeah.

[Andy]

Everyone does that. It's a normal thing.

[Corey]

I've done it. Yeah, I've done it.

[Andy]

You guys have done it.

[Drew]

Yeah. I've for sure stood up in front of my wife and explained to her what an empty is.

[Corey]

I actually have done that.

[Andy]

Yeah. That's normal in our house.

[Corey]

Butt naked.

[Josh]

Listen.

[Drew]

Sounds like this.

[Corey]

Josh, it's 2 o' clock in the morning.

[Drew]

Go to bed.

[Andy]

Wait, you're not listening. You never take me seriously.

[Corey]

Speaking of not listening, we got an extra episode right after this.

[Josh]

No way.

[Corey]

On patreon.com ninjas or butterflies or YouTube members, baby. Yes.

[Andy]

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[Josh]

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[Andy]

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[Josh]

One more time.

[Andy]

Why wouldn't you do it?

[Drew]

Show merch New merch Sunday.

[Andy]

Cool. Swag dot com. All ninja merch.

[Drew]

Slick.

[Andy]

We got hats, we got new shirts, we got biker club. We got also shorts. Guys.

[Drew]

Yeah. This is not AI art. Okay.

[Corey]

No, this is.

[Drew]

This is drawn with the hand.

[Corey]

The hand and the brain. On Patreon. I have a really crazy fact about Maduro and some stocks.

[Josh]

Ooh.

[Andy]

We can do some stock trading.

[Corey]

Some little. Maybe insider trading, but involving the capturing of Maduro.

[Andy]

Oh, definitely. Definitely.

[Corey]

I got some stuff. It's fun.

[Andy]

All right, come here. Give me a lock of your hair.

[Corey]

Oh, my.

[Andy]

Come on. Come on.

[Josh]

On.

[Corey]

All right, Corey, thank you so much for coming on. Thank you for tattooing our bodies and thank you for designing our T shirts. We love you so much.

[Andy]

Let everyone know where they can find you.

[Drew]

Yeah. Corey Romer tattoo is now transitioning to my main account. My other main account is just Corey Romiser, but do a lot more on the. A lot more active on the tattoo side. So see me there. I live in Nashville, Indiana and I tattoo in Nashville, Indiana.

[Corey]

Nice.

[Drew]

Not Tennessee, Indiana, but it's only about four hours from Tennessee. Come out, come get tattooed by me. I'll have pictures for you.

[Andy]

Are you at a shop or did they just hit you up on Instagram?

[Drew]

Yeah, I'm at Redbird Tattoo, but hit me up on Instagram. You book through me. Cool, we'll see you there.

[Andy]

We've had some people that are fans of the POD come find you.

[Corey]

Right.

[Drew]

Let me shout out Austin. He was the first one that hit me up after being on the podcast. I tattoo him all the time. He's an excellent dude.

[Andy]

Dude.

[Drew]

And then Elijah, I tattooed him like a few weeks ago from Nashville, Tennessee. And he got the Seraphim design, My classic Seraphim. And he's sick and. Love you, dude. Thanks for coming out. Come get tattooed some more.

[Corey]

Bing Bong.

[Andy]

Dude. We've had a guy. I believe it's Nick. I'm gonna. Golly, I'm trying to pull it up, but he got the Godzilla tattoo as well. That got the ninjas logo. Wow. He also got that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Drew]

I mean that was drawn tattoo. Like it could be flash.

[Corey]

It's above your head.

[Drew]

Yeah. I love that design. The shirt doesn't fit me anymore because I. It got accidentally dried.

[Corey]

Oh, no.

[Drew]

And so.

[Corey]

Well, we got the little short.

[Drew]

I mean, no.

[Corey]

All right, guys, we love you. We'll see you on Patreon.

[Andy]

We love you.

[Corey]

Goodbye. Bye bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye.

[Josh]

What you're about to see. Wow.

[Drew]

Disturb you dominoes.

[Corey]

If any of you know what these.

[Josh]

Multi decade UAP dolphins are?

[Andy]

Aliens.

[Drew]

Bottle nose fish.

[Josh]

Pigs.

[Andy]

There's a massive police response. Oh, the dolphin thing.

[Josh]

Dolphin style attack.

[Corey]

Thumbnail.

[Andy]

Thumbnail.

[Corey]

All right.