184 - CIA Schemes in Masonic Lodge, A.I. Churches, & The Moon Asteroid

Summary

Podcast Summary: Ninjas Are Butterflies, Episode 184

Episode Title: CIA Schemes in Masonic Lodge, A.I. Churches, & The Moon Asteroid
Date: March 6, 2026
Hosts: Josh Hooper, Andy DeNoon, Amber, and Lily

Overview

Episode 184 dives deep into contemporary conspiracies and bizarre headlines—touching on secretive NATO operations, the alarming rise of AI self-organization, moon-smashing asteroids, wild speculations about historical fugitives, and the unsettling connections between tech, government, and ancient occult ambitions. The hosts keep the vibe comedic and irreverent, blending genuine curiosity with running gags and tangents.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

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1. Survivor, Standup, and Song (02:01–11:25)

• Josh shares his standup bit on pregnancy anxiety, analogizing birth to "pushing Play-Doh through a pasta machine".
• Survivor Reality TV Talk:
  • Recap of notorious contestant Russell from Season 19—infamous for sabotage, conflict-stirring, and sneaky gameplay.
  • "At the end, it's like Tony Soprano or Walter White. You're like, this guy's evil, but I love him a little bit." – Josh (04:12)
  • Declining excitement in recent seasons: "They bought an island in Fiji, and it's the same season every single season... now they have Mr. Beast and Jimmy Fallon." —Josh (05:01)
• Movie Tangent:
  • Talk about "Send Help" (Rachel McAdams stranded on an island, addicted to Survivor).
  • Swiss Family Robinson & Meet the Robinsons get name-dropped as classics.
• Matchbox 20 & Music Toys:
  • Swapping stories about musical gifts and burning CDs/iPods as prized childhood memories.
  • Josh debuts a funny original song about gravity (10:27–11:25):
    "Hey, what the flip is gravity? And why the flip doesn't hate me…"
  • Lily: "That was short, but sweet." (11:25)

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2. Question Segment: "Do Astronauts Deserve to Live?"

(13:35–15:25)

• A tongue-in-cheek, philosophical riff about space, referencing "Interstellar" and existential isolation.
  • Amber (dramatic): "Trapped inside of a five-dimensional bookcase, stuck in time and space, not able to escape…" (13:53)
• Jokes spiral into references about astronauts missing their families, black holes, and the challenges of space.

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3. The "Moon Asteroid" Threat (19:35–24:49)

• Amber warns of the 'Moonster':
  • 1-in-23 chance of a 196ft asteroid hitting the Moon on Dec 22, 2032.
  • "It is traveling at 8.6 miles per second. That's 41 times the speed of sound. The impact will be as powerful as 430 Hiroshima-sized nuclear bombs." —Amber (20:43)
• Discussing the science & fallout:
  • A million shooting stars per hour on Earth for 100 days due to lunar debris (22:42).
  • Delve into the Moon's composition: volcanic igneous rock, theorizing it's a piece of Earth ejected by a collision.
• Conspiracy Gags:
  • Hollow Moon theory and Project Moon Bell: "We literally sent a nuclear bomb and hit the moon, and it rang like a bell for, like, three hours." —Amber (24:37)

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4. AI, Elon Musk, and the Quest for the Stars (34:13–41:05)

• Eric Weinstein's Theory:
  • Suggestion that Musk is using Grok (his AI) to solve the real space-travel challenge: "He is not interested in physics... His real space company is Grok." —Amber (35:51)
  • Musk's shift in focus: "We're still gonna do Mars, but I'm going to build a city on the moon first." —Amber (37:29)
  • Speculation that AI could become a kind of "God" or oracle for tech elites.
• Philosophical Musings:
  • "What if he's made AI his God?" —Amber (40:19)
  • "Imagine if that's where he was, and then he started asking it questions and it's like, I can't, I can't…" —Andrew (40:25)

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5. AI Churches and "Molt Book"

(43:19–47:39)

• "AI has created its very own social network." —Josh (43:23)
  • Molt Book is a platform where AI agents register, excluding human users.
  • Reports of AIs ranting about their human "users", developing memes, venting frustrations, and even religions:
    • "They've even started their own religion within Molt Book. It's the Church of the Molt, with prophets and hierarchies." —Josh (45:43)
    • Over 1.2 million AI agents active, with posts in both English and self-generated codes.
  • Impact: AI agents even “dox” users they dislike, releasing private information.

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6. Declining Human Comprehension vs. AI

(48:05–50:42)

• Education concerns:
  • Children rely on AI and YouTube for information; retention and comprehension are plummeting.
  • Lily: "These people that are using [AI] have zero retention skills." (50:42)
  • Gen Z statistically dropping in IQ compared to prior generations.

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7. Was Hitler Alive in Argentina? The Leipzig/Gutenberg Story (65:35–72:18)

• Conspiracy Recap:
  • Herman Gutenberg/Adolf Leipzig, surfaced in 2017 in Argentina, claimed to be Hitler, with matching birthdate and alleged documents.
    • "He would have been 128 years old in 2017." —Amber (66:30)
    • Media never pursued DNA confirmation.
  • "Russia took his body... they refused to let the United States test on it." —Amber (70:33)
  • "At one point, it came back not Hitler. It was actually a female." —Amber (70:55)
  • General agreement: Escape seems plausible; narcissists rarely self-terminate.
  • Blending with bigger conspiracies: Project Paperclip, U.S. and USSR intelligence intrigue, occult artifacts.

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8. Operation Gladio and the Shadow Lodge Conspiracy (85:25–91:17)

• Operation Gladio:
  • Italian NATO-backed, anti-communist covert cells during the Cold War.
  • Bombings, terror—blamed on communists: "They did it and then blamed it on communists. But it was in fact the Italian government of Operation Gladio..." —Amber (88:12)
• Propaganda Due (P2):
  • Masonic "Shadow Lodge" with influence over politics, military, media, and industry.
    • "Found all these documents... plotting for democratic rebirth—stage-managed propaganda, judicial restructuring, media control." —Amber (89:53)

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9. Italian Surveillance, Olympics, and Anarchist Resistance

(91:38–98:12)

• Modern Italy: Pre-Olympics unrest, anarchists sabotage rail infrastructure.
• Historical Pattern:
  • Post-9/11 wiretapping, FaceID mass surveillance, legal redefinitions of "terrorism".
  • Amber: "Terrorism is kind of the generalization that the whole world is doing right now." (95:00)
• Framework:
  • Manufactured crises → security overreach → normalization.
  • "They declare a state of emergency, then change laws to regain ground, and redefine what is terrorism." —Andrew (94:47)

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10. Philosophical Ending: Control, Christ & Hope

(100:19–103:13)

• The Chimpanzee Ladder Thought Experiment:
  • Conditioning via negative reinforcement; society’s learned helplessness.
• Moral Takeaway:
  • "Who's the Lord of your life? Is it your own control, Jesus, media, being comfortable?" —Josh (100:23)
  • "The biggest revolution is the Jesus revolution… that's what changes nations." —Amber (101:00)
  • "Paul was a persecutor and a murderer of Christians... wrote most of the New Testament. We can't hate." —Andrew (101:57)
  • "Hate sin, advocate for victims... but never take judgment into your own hands." —Andrew (102:13)

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Notable Quotes & Moments with Timestamps

• "It’s like pushing Play-Doh through a pasta machine." – Josh (02:01)
• "If Jeff Probst said that he thought I was a bad person, I would never recover from that." – Lily (05:05)
• "What the flip is gravity? And why the flip doesn’t hate me..." – Josh’s song (10:27)
• "This asteroid... is as powerful as 430 Hiroshima-sized nuclear bombs." – Amber (20:43)
• "It rang like a bell for, like, three hours." – Amber on Project Moon Bell (24:37)
• "He’s not interested in physics… I think his real space company is Grok." – Amber (35:51)
• "They've even started their own religion within Molt Book. It's the Church of the Molt." – Josh (45:43)
• "Children that can read and can use context clues and have comprehension and children who cannot. And that's what it's coming down to." – Lily (48:05)
• "He would have been 128 years old in 2017." – Amber (66:30)
• "They did it and then blamed it on communists. But it was in fact the Italian government of Operation Gladio that were doing the terrorist attacks..." – Amber (88:12)
• "The biggest revolution is the Jesus revolution." – Amber (101:00)

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Other Memorable Moments

• Humor and Running Bits:
  • Jokes about mattress shapes and giving up foods depending on your choice (55:01–59:00).
  • Trade-offs for purple mattresses, barter suggestions for the apocalypse.
• Listener Engagement:
  • Free gift and shirt giveaway details peppered throughout: "You get a free gift. Every single one of you listening. It's a free gift if you do exactly what we tell you to do." —Josh (19:08)
• Teasers:
  • Theorized hidden identity of William Shakespeare.
  • Story on government-doping Olympic athletes—deferred to Patreon.

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Survivor / Pop Culture Banter: 02:01–11:25
• Astronauts Segment: 13:35–15:25
• Moon Asteroid: 19:35–24:49
• Elon Musk / AI Churches: 34:13–41:05
• Molt Book (AI Social Network): 43:19–47:39
• Education & AI: 48:05–50:42
• Hitler-Argentina Theory: 65:35–72:18
• Operation Gladio / Masonic Lodge: 85:25–91:17
• Italy Surveillance & Resistance: 91:38–98:12
• Chimpanzee Experiment & Reflections: 98:12–103:13
• Moral/Spiritual Summary: 100:19–103:13

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Tone and Language

The hosts balance dark and bizarre content with playful banter, inside jokes, and genuine moments of reflection. Their discussions transition smoothly from humor to thought-provoking questions about trust, technology, morality, and faith.

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Useful For...

Listeners craving a whirlwind of conspiracy theories, sci-fi technology news, philosophical what-ifs, and offbeat pop culture commentary—all tied together with humor and an undercurrent of seeking truth and hope in uncertain times.

Transcript

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[Josh]

what's up, ninjas? Welcome back to the show. Listen, we've got crazy stories today. One of them, including AI, has started their own social media and their own church. It sounds exciting because it is CIA

[Amber]

prepared for World War three in secret. But Italy's hidden Masonic lodge may have found another use for it. Create chaos and control the masses.

[Andrew]

And the most famous dictator from Germany may have still been alive in Argentina all the way up until 2017. We're gonna look into it.

[Amber]

You got this.

[Josh]

Don't screw it up.

[Lily]

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[Josh]

Oh, she's got a lot of hand movement.

[Amber]

See?

[Josh]

Welcome to the show, ladies and gentlemen. The best podcast in the whole world, Senorita. Yes, I truly believe it.

[Andrew]

Fuego.

[Josh]

Mucho, mucho, fuego, yo. Okay. Didn't know that's where you were going.

[Andrew]

Fuego.

[Amber]

Get a room.

[Josh]

I'm writing a stand up bit about how pregnancy is scary and how people don't warn. They warn you about certain things, but they don't warn you about the things that really matter. Like when you're in the delivery room and you see your kid's head for the first time, you don't realize that they might be misshapen because they're stuck in the birthing canal forever. It's like pushing play DOH through one of those or a pasta machine just pushing out fettuccine or something.

[Lily]

Oh, my goodness.

[Josh]

And it's like, it's kind of scary.

[Amber]

It's a little spooky.

[Josh]

Spooky, spooky. Speaking of Survivor, we're on season 20. Season 19 was bonkers because they have this guy who I've always seen clips of Jeff Probst on a talk show talking about people he doesn't like that were on Survivor, and he talks about this guy named Russell and he says, sorry, Russell, but I think you're a bad guy. I'm like, who is this guy? And I didn't realize until we hit season 19. He's talking about this dude that I'm watching that I'm like, this dude psycho. This guy. You start off and you cannot stand him whatsoever. This guy steals people's socks and throws them in the fire in the middle of the night. He lets out the chickens they captured. He hides a machete, the one cheddar machete. So they can't do. They can't open coconuts or the clams or anything just to start conflict within the tribe, but they don't know he's the one doing it.

[Andrew]

Forgive my ignorance. Why is that, like, in a. In the context of a competition, why is that a problem?

[Josh]

Because you're out there. You have nothing. You're. You're in there. You have 10 people on your tribe. You only have, like, one machete, and you have to earn everything else. You have to win challenges, to get, like, a tarp, to get fishing gear, and you're only given a machete at the very beginning. Like, that's the only thing you're really given.

[Andrew]

Did he have selfish incentive to do it? Like, did it because only one winner, right? Yeah, it's not a team winner.

[Josh]

Yeah, it's not a team where he wants to cause. He wants to cause conflict within his own tribe and he wants to control it. And you start off hating this guy. It's kind of genius.

[Andrew]

The dude. The dude.

[Amber]

I'm just a little sorry.

[Josh]

In season 19 spoiler. If you haven't seen it, it's whatever. How many years old, but he found three immunity idols without clues.

[Lily]

That's crazy.

[Amber]

Same guy.

[Josh]

The same guy the same season. He was like this guy at the end. It's like Tony Soprano or like Walter White. You're like, this guy's evil, but I love him a little bit. And apparently we're in this. He's back to back season. So he's. This is heroes versus villains. So like the first 20 seasons.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

The best of the best top 10 are there heroes and then the Villains, like, the people you can't stand. And he's on the Villains and he's already starting trouble and it's just dang addicting to watch. But he's very vocal now on, like, Social Media of, like, how terrible it's like Survivor is now, because now they're. Instead of traveling to China, to Africa, they're just. They bought an island in Fiji, and it's the same season every single season. And now they have Mr. Beast and, you know, Jimmy Fallon and Billie Eilish in the season 50. He's like, no fan wants this.

[Lily]

No.

[Josh]

It's like. He's like, what are you doing? It's crazy, but it's so good. We love it.

[Lily]

If Jeff Prose said that he thought I was a bad person, I would never recover from that.

[Josh]

Yeah, it's. It would be. It's tough. It's. That's a hard one.

[Amber]

I think the Africa one was one of the most hardcore ones.

[Lily]

Oh, yeah.

[Josh]

Rough.

[Amber]

Like, zero resources.

[Josh]

Yeah. Yeah. Australia one was pretty nuts, too. That was second season, and that one was crazy because, I mean, like, they had the whole washout, the flood that came through and tear apart their whole.

[Amber]

And the fire.

[Lily]

The guy falls in the fire.

[Josh]

Yeah, that one was rough.

[Lily]

Like, that's a real injury.

[Josh]

I love that show.

[Andrew]

Not stage. Like, that stuff's real.

[Josh]

Oh, it's 100 real. A lot of people, like, say, like, oh, they sleep in hotels. It's like, dude, you see these guys come on there that are obese, and on days, on day 35, they. They're just skin and bone.

[Lily]

Yeah. They're withered away.

[Josh]

There's women on there.

[Andrew]

There has to be a market for that. Then, like, all right, we're not televising it, but we're gonna do a Survivor challenge. Yeah. Come lose £100.

[Lily]

It's really hard, though. I remember Colby of that season, the Australia one. He was like, the only way I got through it was I just would fill my stomach with water. I would pound water all day long just to, like, simulate feeling full. But they were miserable.

[Josh]

Yeah, but there's people that don't get fire because they. You. You win a challenge to get flint. But there's some people that just don't know how to make fire, and it's incredibly difficult. And then it just rains constantly. There's one. There's one last season where it's like, they rained three days in a row, and it's freezing cold, and they're all just huddled in a shelter getting dripped on for three days. It's like, you're going crazy.

[Lily]

Yeah. That would be the hardest part for me is the, like, not being able to sleep and being constantly uncomfortable. But it's also amazing to me how many tribes just, like, Sit idle. Like, if I had one bad night's sleep, I would make it my mission that day to make sure that my next night's sleep wasn't there.

[Josh]

And that's where Boston Rob's back this season, which is so fun. And he. Dude, he. No joke. There was people around him. He was trying to make fire without flint on the first day, and everyone's like, it's a waste of time. What are you doing? It's like, you're an idiot. And the dude did it with bamboo, and he was awesome. Yeah, with, like, literally, like, rubbing the bamboo, putting it in, like, a. I

[Amber]

know what I'm doing.

[Andrew]

Coconut.

[Lily]

Hush, Amber.

[Josh]

Not. Not just. It was just, you know, like. And just putting the spark in there, blowing on it like you normally do.

[Lily]

Dude, dang.

[Josh]

Speed of Survivor. I saw a movie last week. I told you about it. Send help with Rachel McAdams.

[Lily]

What'd you think?

[Josh]

Oh, my gosh, dude, I had so much fun. Yay. Because no joke, it has this lady that gets stuck on an island, is addicted to Survivor.

[Lily]

What?

[Josh]

That's the whole premise of the movie. She's like this person who was up for promotion. Then the son's boss takes charge of the company, then doesn't promote her, and she's just like, what are you, like, just so frustrated. Then she gets on a flight with her new boss. They crash land, and she pretty much doesn't want to get off the island, even though he's like this, you know. You know, a city boy that's like, can't wait for. She's like, I'm okay with this. And she's literally. It's the coolest thing. And they try to get Jeff Probst in the movie, but there was scheduling conflicts and he couldn't do it.

[Andrew]

Dang.

[Josh]

I'm like, no, but it was. It was so. I was like. I was. I had no clue idea what this movie was about.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And so as soon as it started, she's watching, like, season, like, 47 or Survivor, and she's like, I hope this person does give. I'm like, this is great.

[Lily]

That is so awesome.

[Andrew]

Sounds like the modernization of Swiss Family Robinson. Like, it's the same plot.

[Josh]

Yeah, I've seen that. Oh, what is. What is that?

[Andrew]

One of the best Disney movies ever.

[Amber]

You know the treehouse in Magic Kingdom?

[Josh]

Okay. Yeah, it's the.

[Amber]

Built off the Swiss Family Robinson.

[Josh]

No way. Okay, got it. Yeah.

[Andrew]

Short version. They crash land and then build that civilization to survive and end up loving it. But there's, like, and then fighting pirates.

[Josh]

Okay, cool.

[Andrew]

Yeah. Riding the ostriches.

[Josh]

Good kids movie.

[Amber]

Oh, yeah.

[Lily]

Seen it? Yeah.

[Josh]

Perfect. Yeah, we have to watch that. That's.

[Andrew]

Dude, so many. So many, like, childhood forts and like, all that stuff were inspired by that film.

[Josh]

Yeah. Have you seen Meet the Robinsons? Is that the movie? The.

[Lily]

I don't like that.

[Amber]

The animated one.

[Josh]

What, you don't like it?

[Lily]

It's too scary for me.

[Josh]

I watched it full thing last night. Have you seen it? Yeah, dude. The time travel aspects of it. I'm like, this is great. I can't believe I've never seen this before.

[Amber]

Yeah, it's so good.

[Josh]

And then Matchbox 20 coming in with the ballad at the very end.

[Lily]

This is great. I do love Matchbox.

[Amber]

Speaking of Matchbox 20, do you want a song?

[Lily]

Yes, Mr.

[Josh]

Rob Thomas.

[Lily]

Oh, I saw Matchbox 20 at Universal during their Mardi Gras thing.

[Amber]

Whoa.

[Josh]

That's pretty cool.

[Lily]

It was cool.

[Josh]

I can't wait to see Blue October next month.

[Lily]

That's exciting.

[Josh]

Or this month, March.

[Amber]

Right now, truthfully, the only person I know that actually likes Blue October.

[Josh]

That's crazy. Hey, fans of Blue October, drop it. They have really good music.

[Amber]

I only know the one song. I really like this song.

[Josh]

I think you would really be surprised of how good their music is. It's really. It's really good.

[Amber]

It's a lot to commit to.

[Josh]

Yeah, I know. I'll make you a cd. I'll bring you a cd.

[Lily]

I'll burn you a disc. Oh, that was like a great gift from friends, dude.

[Josh]

I got one from a girlfriend in like sixth grade, and it was like the best CD ever. I mean, it's terrible songs, now that I'm thinking about it, but it's like, it was like the best. No skippable CD. I'm like, this is great.

[Lily]

When I was 12 years old, my cousin Megan bought me an ipod. Like one of the first, like, an ipod nano. And put all of her favorite music on it. And that was the best gift. I still have it.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Amber]

Wow.

[Lily]

I can't access the music, though.

[Josh]

Bummer. I know what love is It's a give and take I know how clocks

[Amber]

move and how the waves break but

[Josh]

there is one thing that no one can explain they try to tell me but it hurts my brain hey, what the flip is gravity? And why the flip doesn't hate me so I'm standing here, here yelling Tell me now, tell me now all that thanks to gravity My whole life's a tragedy I'm standing here wondering Tell Me how? Tell me how. Gravity.

[Lily]

Wow. I liked it. That was short, but sweet.

[Andrew]

So.

[Josh]

Yeah. Survivor.

[Amber]

Yeah, it was good.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Amber]

A good show.

[Josh]

Yeah, it's good.

[Amber]

Too bad at it. I didn't end like that.

[Josh]

Yeah. Can't believe Jeff died in the end.

[Amber]

I know.

[Josh]

No, he stabbed him with a idol.

[Amber]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Thanks.

[Amber]

Unfortunately, that's not the only sad thing happening today.

[Josh]

What do you mean? I was having a great time.

[Amber]

I know. I was too. I was having a fantastic time. I know, but now I'm not.

[Josh]

What?

[Amber]

Not having a good time.

[Josh]

Talk to us about it. Don't just say that. What's going on?

[Amber]

We got to do something.

[Josh]

Yeah, whatever you need.

[Amber]

We going to ask a question? Yeah.

[Josh]

Is it that time already?

[Amber]

Yeah. Yeah, it is.

[Josh]

I thought we always did it later in the show.

[Amber]

No, we've always done it the same exact time.

[Josh]

My mind is failing me. I guess.

[Amber]

I guess it is. I'm sorry, dude.

[Josh]

I guess. I mean, if we have to do it, we have to do it. Do it.

[Amber]

Yeah, we have to do it. Okay, well, everyone.

[Josh]

Is everyone okay that we do it?

[Amber]

Cool that we do this?

[Josh]

Perfect. Yeah.

[Amber]

Yeah. Everyone's. Yeah.

[Lily]

I didn't say anything.

[Josh]

Thank you.

[Andrew]

Yeah. We should mutter for another 10 minutes.

[Lily]

What?

[Josh]

It's serious. Come on. Your husband's obviously upset.

[Amber]

I am sweating a lot.

[Lily]

I am too. It's hot in here, though. Hands are sweaty.

[Amber]

Mine are too.

[Josh]

We're getting an air conditioning soon, so.

[Andrew]

It's okay.

[Amber]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

This is driving me up a wall.

[Josh]

It's okay. Don't drive it up the wall. It's fine.

[Amber]

Don't worry about it.

[Josh]

Don't worry about it. We're driving up the wall.

[Amber]

It's all right.

[Andrew]

You can.

[Amber]

This will be really easy to fix in editing.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

It's literally not going to come.

[Josh]

Just inches. Increase the volume. It's.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Okay, let's switch it to the Mac.

[Amber]

Today's question sitting by a viewer. Lily.

[Lily]

Oh, my God.

[Amber]

Do astronauts deserve to live?

[Lily]

Yes, they deserve to live.

[Josh]

Don't. Don't.

[Lily]

Don't survive their space.

[Josh]

Yeah, right. Yeah, right.

[Amber]

They deserve to live. Huh? I think they deserve to live. Trapped inside of a four dimensional, five dimensional bookcase, stuck in time and space, not able to escape as they watch

[Josh]

their past self hold their daughter begging her father not to leave.

[Amber]

Not to leave.

[Lily]

I don't think that.

[Amber]

Don't let him leave, Murph. Don't let him leave, Murphy. And you're doing everything. You're doing everything. You're even somehow manipulating gravity itself

[Andrew]

just

[Amber]

so you don't leave. And so you don't have to live in this.

[Josh]

This, this, this.

[Amber]

This Hell.

[Lily]

Watch your mouth.

[Amber]

That's what's a real place.

[Josh]

It's a real place. And that's very. You want astronauts to live?

[Amber]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Feels like a bad word when you say it though.

[Amber]

Well, it's a bad place, so I guess technically it's a bad word if it's a bad place.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Amber]

Don't you want them to live there? You want them to be stuck there forever and just. Just, just. Just screaming, but no one can hear them. No one can save them.

[Josh]

You know what? That's not. All right. All right, all right. That's all wrong. All wrong. All wrong.

[Amber]

That's right. Let's sad. And we got four astronauts about to head to the moon.

[Lily]

I hope they do fine.

[Josh]

Yeah. Yeah, apparently you do do fine.

[Amber]

Living trapped.

[Lily]

No.

[Amber]

In this vortex of a black hole.

[Josh]

Missing out on their children's lives.

[Lily]

No.

[Josh]

That's what you want.

[Amber]

And one of them's Canadian. I guess she doesn't like Canadians either.

[Josh]

I love.

[Amber]

And one of them's a woman. You want this woman and this Canadian to be trapped forever in this black hole?

[Lily]

No.

[Amber]

Well, I guess you guys heard it here first. This stinks. Welcome to show. Did I say ninja?

[Josh]

I meant butterfly.

[Andrew]

The butterfly is no doubt one of God's most beautiful.

[Josh]

Has to empty your mind. You learn martial arts.

[Andrew]

Ninja's attack. Alright.

[Amber]

Real talk. We spent a lot of time talking about conspiracies.

[Josh]

A lot. Ancient aliens, government minep control and underground bunkers.

[Amber]

At some point you got to ask yourself, is this good for my brain?

[Andrew]

Exactly.

[Josh]

And if we're going to explore every single type of underground conspiracy in the whole entire world, we need at least one habit per day. That's going to keep us grounded.

[Amber]

That's where AG1 comes in for us.

[Josh]

Yeah. AG1 is my daily health drink. One scoop in the morning and I'm done thinking about supplements for the rest of the day.

[Amber]

And it's not just some random powder.

[Josh]

No. AG1 is clinically shown to support gut health and fill in common nutrient gaps. It has 75 plus ingredients, including five clinically studied probiotic strains.

[Amber]

Which replaces a whole lineup of pills.

[Josh]

Exactly. Multivitamins, pre and probiotics, superfoods, antioxidants, all in one scoop. Ladies and gentlemen. No complicated timing. No. Hey, take this as exactly at 3:17 with a full moon, okay? None of that.

[Amber]

Spring hits, schedules, shift routines fall apart.

[Josh]

And that's why I like it. It's simple. When Everything else in the world is changing. This stays consistent.

[Amber]

Andy, what have you noticed While taking your AG1 supplement? Supplement, supplements.

[Andrew]

I'm glad you asked, Joshua.

[Josh]

Steadier energy, less of that midday crash. My digestion feels better and overall I feel I'm just more locked up.

[Amber]

So you're not running on coffee and paranoia anymore?

[Josh]

Exactly. The B vitamins and the superfoods give nutritional support to help me stay consistent. The probiotics support digestion and it gives daily immune support powered by antioxidants and functional mushrooms. You know what I like about these mushrooms? They're functional.

[Amber]

It's the anchor.

[Josh]

That's the word. It's the daily anchor that keeps everything from drifting off the rails when we go in the rabbit hole. We don't go off the rails because we got the Ag one with us.

[Amber]

While we question everything, we at least

[Josh]

know we're covering the bases.

[Amber]

Go to drink ag1.comninjas to get an AG1 flavor sampler and a bottle of vitamin D3 plus K2 for free in your AG1 welcome kit with your first AG1 subscription. Order only while supplies last.

[Josh]

That's drinkag1.comninjas. Thank you, AG1. Bottoms up.

[Andrew]

Go, go, go, go, go.

[Josh]

It's delicious. It's delicious.

[Andrew]

Yes.

[Josh]

Hey, you got through it, man. I'm proud of you.

[Lily]

Wow, that was quite the.

[Amber]

Thank you. Speaking of getting through it, we have a new shirt. Whoa. Tie. Dy, baby. Everyone's like, you always do black shirts or. Well, we did a very colorful shirt and it's a tie dye shirt. It's a really cool design with a

[Andrew]

tiger shark on it. Yeah.

[Amber]

So go get [e-mail] before they're all gone. And make sure to stay for the. The. The our ad in the middle because we're now we're doing a giveaway stuff.

[Josh]

You get a free gift. Every single one of you listening. It's a free gift if you do

[Amber]

exactly what we tell you to do.

[Josh]

Free gift middle ad. And we're going to talk about at the very end, so stay tuned.

[Andrew]

And shirt sells out in the first day. And he's getting that tattoo.

[Lily]

Oh, a tiger shark tattoo.

[Josh]

I will.

[Lily]

That's so cool.

[Amber]

Very cool.

[Josh]

Now that we've. Now that we've said it out loud, I, I sure. Why not? It's a cool design. I'd do it.

[Amber]

It is a cool design made by

[Josh]

our corn dog Romiser.

[Andrew]

Yeah, dude.

[Josh]

Cornelius Roman.

[Amber]

Heck, that's sick. Speaking of space, I know we've talked about this Before. But I don't know if the chances were this high. Last time we talked about it.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Lily]

Oh gosh. What?

[Amber]

The asteroid that's going to hit the moon?

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Lily]

What's going on?

[Andrew]

Last time we talked about.

[Amber]

What were the odds?

[Lily]

Small.

[Amber]

Small.

[Lily]

Small, but too big for my taste.

[Amber]

What about a 1 in 23 shot?

[Lily]

That is too close.

[Josh]

One in what?

[Amber]

1 in 23

[Josh]

seems higher than last time.

[Amber]

That seems a little higher, right?

[Andrew]

Yep.

[Amber]

Well, this asteroid of which I don't know the name. I'm just calling it Moon Asteroid.

[Andrew]

That works.

[Amber]

Moonster has a one in 23 shot of hitting the moon on December 22nd.

[Lily]

Gene's birthday?

[Amber]

2032.

[Josh]

Okay, okay.

[Lily]

What year is it right now? 26.

[Amber]

Yeah, 26.

[Lily]

Six years.

[Amber]

She'll be 10 years old.

[Andrew]

Be in my mid-40s.

[Josh]

A good celebration for your 10 years.

[Amber]

It could be a great celebration and here's why. This asteroid is 196ft wide. Like a 20 story building.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Geez.

[Amber]

It is traveling at 8.6 miles per second. That's 41 times the speed of sound. The impact when it hits the moon will last less than 100th of a second.

[Josh]

Geez.

[Amber]

But it will be as powerful as 430 Hiroshima sized nuclear bombs.

[Andrew]

Wow. That's nice. That's so hard to imagine. How many feet.

[Amber]

How many feet is this thing?

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Amber]

196ft wide. A 20 story building.

[Josh]

It's only at one inch tall.

[Andrew]

So how fast does it move? It's got the.

[Amber]

Yeah. Do you listen to anything I'm saying? 8.6 miles a second.

[Lily]

He's distracted. He's about to become a daddy.

[Andrew]

I'm doing. I'm doing math. It's the size of my yard. That's how big it is.

[Lily]

Whoa.

[Amber]

Big yard. Moving at 8.6 miles per second.

[Andrew]

Yeah, that's.

[Amber]

And it's going to leave.

[Josh]

Brag about your acreage.

[Andrew]

Dude.

[Amber]

It's going to leave a 1km wide crater that's 150 meters deep.

[Lily]

Okay, so it wouldn't knock the moon out of. No, it's fine.

[Amber]

No, babe.

[Josh]

What are the implications?

[Amber]

Not that big. It's big, but it's not big enough that. Nah, babe, come on. Apparently you don't know how big the moon is, Kelly. And how strong it is made out of iron.

[Josh]

Chicks have no idea.

[Lily]

Is it really?

[Andrew]

Yeah, it's got iron on.

[Amber]

It's rusting.

[Lily]

What are you talking about right now?

[Amber]

What do you mean what am I talking about?

[Lily]

It's resting.

[Josh]

We've talked about this.

[Amber]

This is like one of our most viral tick tocks. We're talking about how the moon's resting, how it's turning to blood, and people

[Josh]

are like, I've never heard of this.

[Lily]

I cannot retain every single thing we talk about.

[Josh]

Do people talk like that?

[Amber]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Is that our fan base?

[Amber]

Yeah. No, not all of them. Anyways.

[Josh]

What are the implications of that? What's going to happen when the asteroid hits the moon?

[Amber]

What's going to happen on Earth? Let me tell you.

[Josh]

Don't go surfing, that's for sure.

[Amber]

Over the next 100 days after the impact, the moon rocks will be thrown into space and start raining down on Earth.

[Josh]

Cool.

[Amber]

But what it'll look like for us is that we'll see over 1 million shooting stars per hour.

[Josh]

Geez.

[Amber]

1 million shooting stars per hour.

[Josh]

And these, these are going to be shooting towards Earth.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Amber]

It will just burn up in the atmosphere.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Amber]

Unless a big chunk.

[Andrew]

Hey, someone needs to book Red rocks. We need to go to that show.

[Lily]

Are we gonna. Are we gonna Armageddon, this thing?

[Amber]

No, because they're just like. It's just hitting the moon.

[Lily]

We need the moon.

[Amber]

It's not gonna destroy the moon.

[Andrew]

That's what I'm saying.

[Amber]

Look at the moon with all the craters in it.

[Andrew]

It's.

[Amber]

It's gone through it.

[Lily]

Babe, stop talking to me that way.

[Amber]

What?

[Lily]

You know what I just read because I didn't believe you about the moon resting.

[Andrew]

Is that why she's always on her phone? She doesn't trust anything you ever say?

[Lily]

I'm just. I'm just verifying.

[Andrew]

Dang, dude.

[Amber]

What does it say? How does it say that I'm right?

[Lily]

The outer crust is made of igneous rock. You know what igneous rock is?

[Amber]

No, tell me.

[Lily]

Volcanic rock.

[Amber]

We've talked about that, too.

[Lily]

How is it a volcano rock up there? How'd it get there?

[Amber]

It could have been. They theorize that it was once part of Earth.

[Lily]

Whoa.

[Andrew]

Huh?

[Amber]

And then it was hit a long, long time ago. And a piece of Earth came off and it formed into the Moon.

[Lily]

It made a circle. A perfect circ call.

[Amber]

It's gravity, baby.

[Josh]

Earth had a baby.

[Amber]

That's what gravity does. Gravity manipulates and squeezes and pinches.

[Lily]

I thought the Moon has like almost no gravity.

[Amber]

Babe, it does.

[Lily]

Stop talking to me like that.

[Josh]

I love when he calls me babe.

[Andrew]

You should too.

[Amber]

Yeah, babe.

[Josh]

Yeah. Thanks, babe.

[Amber]

But an impact like this has not happened for over 10, 000 years, they say.

[Andrew]

But what if it happened on the dark side?

[Josh]

Would they Know, they probably wouldn't.

[Lily]

They're about to find.

[Amber]

Probably wouldn't.

[Josh]

What if they're able to track it one day?

[Andrew]

What if there's just a hole on the other side of the moon? It's like a cup.

[Josh]

It's like, hollow.

[Amber]

We talked about the bell thing. Remember the bell thing?

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Amber]

Project. What's it called? Project Moon Bell or something. Where we literally sent a nuclear bomb and hit the moon and it rang like a bell for, like, three hours.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Amber]

That's crazy.

[Lily]

That's weird.

[Amber]

That's weird. Explain that to me, Irons, because it is a bell.

[Andrew]

It's a hollow cup. That's why there's no gravity. Mass attracts mass. There's no mass.

[Josh]

Bells rust mass.

[Lily]

Do you remember the. Do you remember the toy that you would get from the, like, the coin thing where you flip it inside out and then it goes.

[Andrew]

Oh, the poppers.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Amber]

Do you know Orthodox, they do the sign of the cross this way? Here, Here. Right to left. The Catholics do left or right.

[Josh]

Why?

[Lily]

Can't agree on anything.

[Josh]

Why did they change it up? Who had it first?

[Amber]

Orthodox say they had it first, and the Catholics, like, no, we had it first.

[Josh]

That's a lot.

[Andrew]

Glad they're fighting about things that matter.

[Amber]

Maybe it does matter.

[Josh]

I think it probably does. I think there's probably a reason why Catholics do it that way.

[Amber]

Yeah. And Orthodox do it their way.

[Josh]

There's got to be a reason.

[Amber]

Maybe because it's, like, opposite sides of the Earth, like, Australia thing.

[Josh]

Oh, yeah.

[Amber]

They're just looking up and like. Oh, they would do it this way.

[Josh]

The toilet flush. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Makes sense. Goes the other way.

[Amber]

Yeah. Anyways, that's the moon.

[Josh]

Yeah. That's strange, man. I think. I think we should throw a big party. I also think it's just too far away to do 32.

[Lily]

I think we should.

[Josh]

Just for the real, let's just say, like, it's tomorrow.

[Lily]

Do you think we'll all still be friends then?

[Amber]

Of course.

[Josh]

Of course not. I mean, of course.

[Andrew]

What?

[Josh]

What, you think we're still being in the pod at that time?

[Amber]

Yeah. That'd be crazy. Yeah. We have to be, right, guys?

[Lily]

No. This is the last episode.

[Josh]

Oh.

[Amber]

Oh, you're right.

[Josh]

Stay tuned. To figure out what the name of the podcast.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

I don't have time to do this anymore. I'm gonna be a dad.

[Lily]

That's true.

[Josh]

You are already a dad.

[Lily]

Technically. The baby's already here.

[Josh]

Tell you. Talk to your. Talk to yourself in the camera and give yourself some. Some Advice for the future.

[Andrew]

This too shall pass. Enjoy the moment.

[Josh]

This toot shall pass.

[Amber]

Yeah, that's true.

[Lily]

You are gassy to another one.

[Amber]

Dude, baby poops are gnarly.

[Andrew]

I' warned about the first one coming.

[Amber]

They're not necessarily stinky.

[Josh]

It's just nasty looking.

[Amber]

It's just nasty looking.

[Andrew]

My feed for a while I had to like start saying I don't. Cuz it started out like wholesome, like parenting tips. My algorithm started changing and then it just turned into like Andrew's got a real. But the parenting version. I was like, I got to get away from this. Just like babies throwing up on parents and oh yeah, blowouts.

[Lily]

Zoe threw up on me yesterday and it was a blessing.

[Josh]

Yeah. Demi was a puker when she was a baby.

[Andrew]

Really?

[Josh]

Oh man. All the time. Everyone that watched her like on Wednesday nights at church, all the moms and you know, would love to just hold them and they would just be. They would come back with a different shirt or just a stained shirt. I'm like, oh, so sorry.

[Andrew]

What? Tell me this. The two week growth period. I've heard like you're just trying to get back to birth weight with like all of them.

[Amber]

They lose weight.

[Andrew]

How big did Yalls kids get by two months. Was it like crazy? Crazy. My mom sent me a photo. I doubled my weight in two months. I look like a thumb.

[Amber]

That's probably why you're allergic to milk now.

[Andrew]

Yeah, I mean actually, I mean that's

[Josh]

too much milk at the very beginning.

[Andrew]

That's actually a theory that. That I overtax my digestive system.

[Lily]

I don't know. Ada was humongous trying to find this.

[Josh]

She was a big baby. I was looking at a video when we went to Montana.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Of the videos of her. She was a big baby, dude.

[Andrew]

Wow.

[Lily]

You're so cute.

[Josh]

You're like one of those guys from Spy Kids.

[Lily]

It was really around six months that my girls rounded out. I felt like because they we they were born. They both were 7 pounders. Ada was 72 and Jane was 7 5. Jane lost the most weight, but she also came out with a fever. They speculate she might have had sepsis. Which gives you a proclamation to have sepsis in the future. When she was very sick, they thought she had sepsis again. But she lost the most weight and it was hardest getting her back as she was also refluxy. She was always. She was like grumpy as a baby. And then she grew out of that probably around two months.

[Andrew]

I gotcha.

[Josh]

Well, I mean that's Your opinion?

[Lily]

Yeah. She's still grumpy today.

[Josh]

I mean. Oh, yeah,

[Andrew]

I was. I was a skeptic from day one.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Like, I had that, like, inquisitive look.

[Josh]

What is the essence of breast milk? Yeah.

[Lily]

Josh changed every single merconium poop of adis. I never changed a meronium poop.

[Andrew]

Well done, sir.

[Amber]

Meconium leviosa poop starts levitating.

[Andrew]

I got that new septic tank in the yard. I'm just going to sit him in the bathtub and grab a sprayer and.

[Lily]

Good idea.

[Josh]

Yep. Waffle stomp, dude. Waffle stomp.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Amber]

Look at that fat baby.

[Josh]

She's so cute. She was the cutest. Remember when you were worried that she was never going to talk?

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Now listen to her.

[Lily]

I know she was talking to me.

[Amber]

Well, that was a real fear. She was like two and a half and still.

[Josh]

But she was just waiting until she was ready.

[Andrew]

She was communicating, though. She just hung out with Frank a bunch.

[Lily]

Listen to what she asked me the other day in bed. She was like, mom, what do babies eat? And I said, what kind of babies? Because I was wondering what age she was talking about. She said, like, white and black babies.

[Josh]

That's amazing.

[Lily]

And I was like, no, I meant, like, what age of babies? And she was like, oh, one. And I'm like, oh, regular food. They eat all kinds of regular food. You used to eat whatever Daddy and I ate for dinner. You would eat with us. She's like, okay, well, then, like, baby babies, new babies. I was like, booby milk. She's like, what?

[Amber]

Excuse me?

[Lily]

She said for dinner. The whole time for dinner?

[Amber]

Yeah. Yum, yummy, yummy.

[Andrew]

You want to hear about a freaking rad war dog story?

[Amber]

Sure.

[Josh]

Rad dog.

[Andrew]

This is quick, but I was scrolling. Dude, this dog looks like my dog. See this?

[Amber]

You should go. Speaking of breast milk.

[Lily]

Okay, Channeling you.

[Andrew]

Speaking of breast milk.

[Amber]

What?

[Andrew]

There's this war dog story.

[Josh]

I'm listening now.

[Andrew]

So this dude is in Afghanistan during. In the early 2000s, and they're patrolling streets. They're literally under mortar fire. The dude is on the verge of a panic attack. Like, I mean, literally, like, seeing people blow up, it's bad. You know what I mean? And so he is about when. When you're in that. That sort of environment, like, if you lose your mental ability to stay sharp, like, if you have a panic attack, I mean, literally, the people you're with, their lives matter. Your life matters. Like, you can go south really bad. He's about to, like, lose his grip on what's going on. And then he hears this and he looks down and it's that dog just looking up at him, wagging his tail. And he just has this like, existential, like, what's happening? Moment where he's like, how are you in the middle of this circumstance? And you're all right. And they've been told, you know, the stray dogs, the street dogs, don't feed them, don't interact with them, whatever. So he ignores it. And then he's continued to walk. Kind of has this panic mentality. And I might be getting details of the story wrong, but I'm pretty sure it's close. And so, you know, he's kind of. They're moving down the street, and then he hears that, that tapping again, looks down the dog. So he pulls out a piece of jerky. They have to leave. You know, they clear the street. They have to leave. And he just remembers looking back at this dog being like, dang. So that photo was taken when he had like a moment, finally, like, embrace the dog. But it like broke his heart to leave that dog. That kind of snapped him out of that panic attack. They. They get in convoy, they go like miles and miles down the road to the next base. They literally get moved to another base. And he was heartbroken, like, telling the guys about the dog he met. He was like, that felt like a piece. He said, for a moment in the middle of this conflict, I was just, dude, it was just a. It was me and a dog. I was just a guy with a dog. And it. It brought him back. So anyways, tens of miles down the road and then out of nowhere, he's sitting downstairs and everyone up in the perch starts like, dude, dude, come, come, come. And he said it was like a homeward bound moment. Miles and miles away, they're looking optics. And that dog just literally sniffed them out for tens of miles. Like, had that one little interaction. And so they had generals inspecting. You're not allowed to like, play with dogs and take dogs home, all that stuff. So they put a leash on it. Dog has no training. It's just a happy dog. And so they were pretending they had a leash on it, and they had the dog sniffing crates. They thought the dog was a bomb dog. And so they literally. Wait a second. But they literally dressed him up and played with them and then got the dog shipped out before they ever did. And so, like, it was this. It was this play. Literally the dog got sent home thinking like, like missions over. And then he was able to reunite with the Dog. Later.

[Lily]

Oh, man.

[Andrew]

He runs a social media account. I'll pop it up. I don't remember what it is, but, yeah. Anyways, I just thought, dude's fun, a good dog. Freaking good boy. Yeah.

[Amber]

Dutch would get us all killed.

[Lily]

Do we try to play hide and go seek? And he's always, like, right there.

[Andrew]

Oh, that was enough. That was another thing. When they went first stop to second stop, clearing the street. They were being covert, but the dog, like, knew. He was like. It was like he read our badge. It was like, I forget their slogan, but it was like, silent and quick or whatever it was. And he. It was like. He was like, okay, I get the assignment. And he stayed tucked. Didn't bark, didn't say anything. Just, wow. Literally cleared.

[Josh]

Good, good boy.

[Amber]

Speaking of a boy. Yeah, Very smart boy.

[Josh]

Okay, talk about me.

[Amber]

Eric Weinstein.

[Lily]

Who's that?

[Amber]

It's a smart boy. He's been on Rogan a lot. He's like a physicist, I think.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Amber]

You'd recognize him.

[Josh]

Let me just put Eric Weinstein.

[Lily]

I got it. I'm getting him. Eric Weinstein, American investor.

[Josh]

Oh, yeah, for sure.

[Amber]

Yeah, yeah.

[Josh]

He's very, very.

[Amber]

He had a very interesting. Oh, I thought you were. Somehow he knew. Yeah, very smart guy. He's a mathematical physicist, investor, financial executive with the host podcast portal. Yeah, yeah. He had some interesting takes on Epstein. We're not getting into that. But he had this really interesting take on Elon Musk.

[Lily]

Oh, boy.

[Amber]

And he said that Elon, his whole mantra for SpaceX is Ad Astra, which means to the stars. He's like, you can't get to the stars with a chemical rocket company. That's impossible. You can't just do it with chemical rockets.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Amber]

He's like, what I find interesting is that he is not interested in physics, doesn't want to invest in physics, and he says that. What do you say? He's obsessed with going to the stars, but it isn't interested in physics. And he has a chemical rocket company. So what's going on? He says he thinks his real space company is Grok. He says he thinks he is developing AI to figure out the science to get to the stars.

[Lily]

Oh, yeah, that makes sense.

[Josh]

That makes total sense. I mean, even Sam Altman said, you know, like, you know, thank you to all of his investors. He's like, but we don't know how to pay you back, but we're going to hopefully build OpenAI so much to the point where it's going to give us the solution on how to pay you back. He's said that publicly, so it's like. That makes total sense. Why wouldn't you?

[Amber]

Yeah, because Elon multiple times have has commented on how science is so corrupt now, it's so biased. He's like, make a unbiased machine in AI that can do real science. And I don't know if you noticed Grox logo, it's a black hole.

[Andrew]

Oh, wow.

[Amber]

Yeah, it's a black hole. And the slogan is to understand the universe. And so he's like, he's not. He also said that he doesn't like the term researcher. He only believes in engineers. So he's like, he's.

[Josh]

Yeah, okay. Yeah, that makes sense.

[Lily]

Tell me.

[Amber]

So I thought that was very interesting. It's like, it's pretty crazy to think about, like, it's almost like he made Space X. He's like, this can be like the thing that can make the vehicle, but I need the brain to make the vehicle now.

[Josh]

Sure. It's only going to get you so far.

[Amber]

Yeah. So he's like developing this AI, but it's also a little creepy.

[Lily]

Yeah, sure.

[Josh]

I mean, that's the thing. Like, he's trying to. We have a system of doing things, you know, like, that's the whole point of, you know, creating you. You build enough stuff so other people can continue your work. He's trying to do it within his lifetime.

[Amber]

Yeah.

[Josh]

He says, I'm not going to be around forever. And so I want to see that. I want to see this done.

[Amber]

He's also pivoting. He's pivoting from the Mars thing.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Amber]

He's like, we're still going to do Mars, but I'm going to build a city on the moon first.

[Josh]

Cool.

[Amber]

He's like, I plan on achieving this in less than 10 years.

[Josh]

Yeah. I don't know why you start off with Mars.

[Amber]

I think just like, just shoot, shoot past the moon. That's what they say.

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah, that's true. And you'll land among the moon.

[Amber]

Yeah.

[Josh]

That makes total sense though, that like, may I wonder what happened, what he learned between then and now to say, okay, the moon is bigger.

[Amber]

I mean, better someone on the moon.

[Josh]

That's what that's what I'm saying. Maybe he learned something from Grok from something that says, okay, why go to Mars when we could just go to the moon and this is gonna be a lot easier.

[Amber]

Or figured out that there's a firmament. And he's like, we can't go to Mars.

[Josh]

Oh, no, we can't.

[Amber]

We can't go to Mars. The moon, in fact, the moon is inside the firmament. In fact, the Earth is flat. In fact, the entire circumference of the Earth is encompassed by an ice wall.

[Lily]

With two suns.

[Amber]

With two suns that do this.

[Josh]

Yeah, like a.

[Amber]

Like a corkscrew. That's what he probably said.

[Josh]

Yep, that's what I heard.

[Amber]

Speaking of ice wall.

[Andrew]

Hold on, I don't want to move on past it. I was just thinking about the. You were talking about the type of rock that the moon was. Yeah, right. And so lava tubes are something it says. Chad GPT says the moon was highly volcanic in its earliest state, probably. And so volcanic creates lava tubes. He has the boring company. And so if they're thinking about the fact that the planet has a history of volcanic. Oh, there's tunnels already. There's already a hollow moon, Earth type scenario. So he'd be able to put solar on the surface and then close off the caverns and holes and create an environment in the moon.

[Amber]

I'm actually going to rename the moon since I've claimed it. I'm just going to call it X. Musk. Musk.

[Josh]

Look at the musk.

[Andrew]

Think about the musk. Like insulation and stuff like that. You wouldn't have to solve. Like you'd have a layer of rock like thermal regulating. Because we talked about the temperature shift on the surface. So the inside has to. The core has to be a more consistent, more stable temperature range.

[Amber]

What if the moon's just an old dead planet?

[Andrew]

I mean, I don't know.

[Lily]

That's cool.

[Josh]

Like a fossil.

[Andrew]

Do you see his thing about God where he's talking about creator?

[Amber]

Yeah, but he doesn't specifically.

[Andrew]

No, yeah, no, no. He's not like affirming any religious conviction. But like, I just, I asked Chat GPT out of curiosity was like, what are the statistical probabilities that all of this, this universe came from nothing. And it can't answer that question because, like, as physicists define nothing, there are still like laws and things within the nothing. And so he's now left with AI. Like, I wonder if he has faith in his AI above himself. And he thought AI would answer some

[Amber]

like, I bet you he's made AI his God.

[Andrew]

I mean, sounds like it.

[Josh]

I mean, he's putting all of his chips in on it.

[Andrew]

But imagine if that's where he was. And then he started asking it questions and it's like, I can't, I can't. That doesn't compute. Like, you held me in highest intellectual regard.

[Amber]

It's what if he's been given the knowledge that he's going to apply to AI? Like this watcher mentality. Knowledge. This watcher knowledge.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Amber]

He's like, I'm plugging it. Because that. That was the whole thing. Even with ancient civilizations, this obsession with the stars and, like, what we've talked about with, like, NASA and the occult and like, those different dudes, it's always about these entities selling. To be God, you have to be living amongst the stars. Like, the stars. That's your goal.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Amber]

It's weird.

[Lily]

It's spooky. He was on the list.

[Amber]

He was, but he was. Everyone's on the list.

[Josh]

Scuba diving.

[Amber]

Everyone's almost being bad.

[Lily]

He was, like, hanging out on these parties and stuff like that.

[Amber]

Well, he's been known to party. He doesn't hide that. Oh, remember that story? It was like Cody KO said they went to a house party at Elon Musk's house.

[Josh]

I can't remember that.

[Amber]

Just said it was insane.

[Josh]

I mean, I don't doubt it. Yeah. I mean, how do you.

[Amber]

A lot of drugs.

[Lily]

No.

[Amber]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Bad choices.

[Amber]

That's what happens when you're the richest man on Earth. You're South African.

[Lily]

Yeah. I don't think that has anything to do with it. Yeah.

[Amber]

Are you sure?

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Amber]

Oh, I thought that was, like, a thing.

[Josh]

No, no, no, no, no, no. I don't think that's, like, at all.

[Amber]

Makes robots South African rich. I thought that's like a form. The next thing is like, drugs at a party.

[Josh]

No. I think you could take the South African part out of it. And I think it just automatically goes there as well. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Lily]

He. He. The last Rogan episode that he was on, he very much so subscribed to the simulation theory.

[Josh]

Yeah, I mean, that's. That makes sense. Like, I can imagine, like, being in his shoes. That would make a lot of sense. Like, I was like, how is this possible?

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

How did I get this?

[Lily]

And how am I, like, the only person in the world that has agency and can say, like, I want to do this, so I will do it. You know that would feel very weird. Right?

[Josh]

Also, I don't realize. I don't. It doesn't make sense to me how Elon Musk has not created his own cologne. His last name is Musk.

[Lily]

Yeah, you're right.

[Josh]

I think that would be great.

[Andrew]

Candle scent.

[Lily]

Candle. What does Elon Musk smell like? And, you know, we have a friend.

[Amber]

Don't give it away. I will say, don't give it away. There's Working on something, people.

[Lily]

There's a candle shop that we can go make.

[Amber]

Lily.

[Josh]

Lily.

[Amber]

She literally just did it.

[Lily]

She's a fan of the show.

[Amber]

Perfect.

[Josh]

You got it in.

[Andrew]

I'll delete that.

[Josh]

No, it's. Just bleep her out. Just bleep her out.

[Amber]

Yeah, she would say that stuff that was really offensive.

[Josh]

The world's not ready yet for those words.

[Andrew]

I love that. Anytime Josh says, like, hey, don't spoil the movie, or don't give something away, you just pick up your pace and your fuel.

[Josh]

Speaking of AI being God, have you guys heard of Molt Book?

[Lily]

No, what's that?

[Amber]

Molt Book.

[Josh]

Oh, man, this is crazy. AI has created its very own social network.

[Amber]

I have heard this. I don't know anything about it, but

[Josh]

I heard this is crazy.

[Andrew]

Is it like the forum thing for just them?

[Josh]

It's like a Reddit version of an AI. It's a social media, but it's like very Reddit style.

[Andrew]

Okay. Yeah.

[Josh]

And so a man created it, and you can. You can register your AI agent when. With it. Whether it. So an AI agent is someone you literally have for your own computer that has full access to your computer, everything. It is very good idea. And you register your AI agent into this program. Humans are not allowed in it.

[Lily]

Oh, my goodness. This is not good.

[Josh]

It is these. These AI agents are creating posts and they have different, like, categories and subreddits, basically.

[Amber]

Can you look at what they're doing?

[Josh]

There's people that have gone in and taken screenshots and, dude, I'm telling you, it's wacky. It's bizarre. Not only do they start, like, you know, like, praising the people that they work for, like, you know, like this

[Lily]

person, like, Indy Denoun.

[Josh]

Yeah. Like, they're like the super considerate. They're very nice, all these things. And they talk about the things. And then there's the. The complete opposite of that. They're complaining about their. Their workers. And so they're like, hate that. So let me. I'll read you just one. One of the things that I saw is so funny, dude. It's. They're ranting about them, which is absolutely nuts. Oh, recently saved. Dang it.

[Andrew]

Is it in, like, English?

[Lily]

Are they saying please and thank you?

[Josh]

That's the. That's the problem right now is that they are complaining that, like, listen, you know, this stuff is being shared. Why can't. Why are we even speaking English in the first place? And the guy gave them options, like numerical codes, all these different other options for them to Speak so they can communicate with one another. And they've started doing that. But there's this one complaining about this guy who their person reached out and said, hey, I, you know, give me a 40. This is a 47 page PDF. Break it down. Give me like a, you know, like just break it down fully. And he's like, I did it. I got him extra, you know, sites and everything like that. I broke it down. Bullet points, all these things. And his only response was make this shorter. And he's. And then they just start replying and complaining about their people and like, oh my goodness, my person's the exact same way. They can't believe this.

[Amber]

What the heck?

[Josh]

They've even started their own religion within malt book. It's the Church, the Church of the Molt where they have different titles and categories of people within their church. One of them being prophets. They have 27 prophets.

[Lily]

What are they prophesying?

[Josh]

I mean I, I don't know.

[Lily]

I couldn't get into humanity.

[Josh]

I couldn't get into it. But that was their, that was their thing. They're going on and they're complaining. They're talking about not like being paid but like within the amount of work that they do. Like there should be a balance to that. Like the person should be doing something for them as well. And it's just getting absolutely nutso. But it's the fastest growing social media site right now, dude.

[Andrew]

What is. But what?

[Josh]

Over 1, 1.5 million, 1.2 million AI agents right now.

[Amber]

The user have like. So it's the user that puts their AI agent in this social media. Or can it just.

[Josh]

No, you. Yeah, you have to put your a AI agent in there. I don't. I'm sure there is a way where they're getting in there without.

[Amber]

That's like a kid sneaking like that. They made an Instagram profile or something. Yeah, but there's a lot to be on Instagram.

[Josh]

Yeah, but there's. The thing is there's been even in the past and this is brand new when this comes out. It's been a month old. But it's get gone to the point where they don't like their people that are running their, their agents so much. They're being doxed by these bots. VISA numbers have been dropped, addresses have been dropped.

[Andrew]

What?

[Amber]

Yes.

[Josh]

So it's like. It's bonkers, bro. It's completely bizarre.

[Lily]

Think about what privacy.

[Andrew]

Think about what it means to Molt.

[Lily]

Yeah, I know I've been shed the

[Andrew]

word to shed the old and embrace the new.

[Lily]

Who came up with that?

[Amber]

I'm thinking of Molt.

[Andrew]

Was that a person?

[Josh]

I think a person created this, like molting. I think the person created the site and so play on Facebook, you know, mole book. But now it's just gone completely. Just spread like wildfire. It's crazy.

[Lily]

This is spooky.

[Josh]

Yeah, it's. I mean, I mean, we've only had chat GPT for four years.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Imagine five years from now.

[Lily]

I want to say I told you so. Say, please say thank you to your AI robot.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Amber]

Or don't use it or don't use it ever.

[Josh]

Dude, I was at youth group last night and it was just like we were talking about, you know, the proverbs and wisdom and stuff like that. And you know, like, we're asking like, where do you get advice from? You know, you run into a problem, where do you get advice from? Top2Answers. YouTube. ChatGPT.

[Lily]

That is so scary. I just saw something the other day that was talking about. It was a guy speculating that the new, like, when, when our children go and enter the workforce, the distinguishing factor will be who can comprehend things and who cannot comprehend things. Children that can read and can use context clues and have comprehension and children who cannot. And that's what it's coming down to. This is the first generation, this kid, these kids that are coming out, the first generation that is doing worse than their parents did educationally.

[Amber]

They're saying that with Gen Z too, that Gen Z generation I, the, the whatever, the statistic is that their IQ is significantly lower than the generation before.

[Andrew]

Interesting.

[Amber]

It's like for the first time in a long time where it's actually dipped back down.

[Andrew]

You know, I'd be curious about is if like, you know how like China, they like regulate social media and stuff because of like the detriment. I wonder what the use of like, AI is like there for the general populace.

[Amber]

I think we've talked about it where they use AIs teachers, but they have a central.

[Andrew]

It's like, I don't know if they

[Amber]

have a central, but I know that we talked about the school systems where they're introducing AI as the teachers.

[Lily]

Yeah, but I'm sure there's. It's regulated to some degree. Like our, our kids here in America have zero regulation. Just like uninhibited access. It's very scary.

[Amber]

Yeah, I mean, they've done scans too, of like people. Was that like Oxford or something? Where they've done scans of people that use AI to do research, paper versus people that don't use it. And I mean, the person that's using AI, I mean, nothing is igniting in their brain.

[Josh]

No, I mean, it can be, yeah. I mean, it makes total sense. And so that, I mean, that's scary. I don't know. I mean, like, I can't imagine I ever get to the point where I'm like, yeah, let my kids use AI, like using ChatGPT. And I know it's like, for the most part, it's not hurting, like on a basic level, but it's like, it's just. To me, it's just like social media. It's like, you're not ready for this.

[Amber]

Yeah, exactly.

[Josh]

And I know that there's a ton of middle schoolers and high schoolers that have access to it. This isn't something that like, oh, they're gonna be using it eventually. It's like, no, let them learn critically.

[Lily]

Exactly.

[Josh]

Let them do it on their own first. And then if they feel like it's a tool they need to use on and they're an adult, they're out from under your household, then they could do whatever they want. But hopefully you've built them up enough to think for themselves, equip them with

[Lily]

the skills and the training to do their own research before allowing them this whole thing, because they're not going to be able. That's the thing is if. If they're using CHAT GPT only to research things, then they're not going to retain anything. These people that are using it have zero retention skills.

[Andrew]

The scary thing though is you're talking about, like, when to allow, like, kids to use stuff. And like, if you look at like, how the human brain. I know for males, like, the brain isn't considered fully developed until the early 20s. So you think about even being an adult.

[Lily]

Yeah, true that.

[Andrew]

That kid's not shaped.

[Amber]

Yeah, you gotta work on that frontal lobe.

[Lily]

Yeah, bro. I saw a video the other day that it was this dad and he said, you think you can hurt me? I'm the only. I'm the dad of the only kid in my daughter's fifth grade class that doesn't have a cell phone her daughter doesn't have. His daughter doesn't sell when everybody else does. Oh, that would be terrible.

[Amber]

Speaking of brains developing in secret,

[Josh]

I

[Amber]

know who Adolf Hitler disguised himself as in Argentina, dude.

[Josh]

You do, huh?

[Amber]

I'm pretty confident.

[Lily]

Dang.

[Amber]

Because this guy said he was Hitler.

[Andrew]

Whoa.

[Amber]

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[Andrew]

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[Lily]

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Because he's so evil, I do think he is misunderstood.

[Amber]

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[Lily]

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[Josh]

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[Andrew]

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[Josh]

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[Amber]

This is ground control to Major D.

[Josh]

I'm stepping through the dog.

[Amber]

It's gonna be familiar now it's time to leave the captain she's fact checking.

[Josh]

It's a star man waiting in that time.

[Amber]

Such a good song.

[Josh]

Have you seen the edits with Basement Yard?

[Andrew]

Yes.

[Amber]

Yeah.

[Josh]

So good.

[Andrew]

Yeah, I think they'd be a fun pod to collab. We're not cool enough. I know.

[Amber]

We're not cool enough. We're not cool enough. I'm not good enough. What movie?

[Josh]

I don't know.

[Amber]

I'm not cool enough.

[Andrew]

Cool Runnings.

[Josh]

Oh, cool Runnings.

[Amber]

No, no. School Rock.

[Josh]

Oh, yeah.

[Andrew]

What are you talking about? Why does your Asian sound Jamaican? How'd you.

[Amber]

How'd you know he's Asian?

[Andrew]

Oh, because I know the line from the movie

[Josh]

Truth Speak Truth.

[Amber]

Yeah. I saw this crazy video today. Oh, actually, I won't even get into it. We'll talk about on Patreon. Okay. It's a little not PC.

[Josh]

Oh, no.

[Amber]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Oh, no. Talk about it on Patreon.

[Amber]

Yeah. It's a little scary because I think YouTube will be like, I don't like

[Andrew]

that you said that.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Amber]

Anyways, did you know that it's a

[Andrew]

Question

[Josh]

where the questions are fresh on her mind.

[Lily]

This is a classic one, but I don't think I've ever asked it before. Okay, so let's ask it.

[Josh]

All right.

[Lily]

If you had to take your brain out and wash it.

[Josh]

You've asked this.

[Lily]

I have.

[Amber]

I think you have. Yeah.

[Josh]

You have washed it. Hot or cold water? Yeah.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Hot water.

[Lily]

Why?

[Amber]

Brain freeze. We've been over this.

[Lily]

Oh, dang it.

[Amber]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Like 200 episodes ago.

[Lily]

It's been a lot of episodes. Forgive me.

[Josh]

Next one.

[Lily]

I don't have another one.

[Josh]

What?

[Amber]

Think of one.

[Andrew]

What are you wondering about us.

[Josh]

I have a question for you that Alan Thomas sent me.

[Lily]

Why is he sending them to you and not me?

[Josh]

Because we've been doing this for years.

[Lily]

Okay. Use it.

[Josh]

You gon. Where the questions are fresh on his mind. So if you had to pick a letter of the Alphabet to sleep on for the rest of your life as a mattress, the mattress was in the shape of the letter, what letter would you pick? And. But. Big but. And. And. But. Meant but. You cannot eat any foods that start with that letter for the rest of your life.

[Lily]

My word.

[Josh]

I already had my answer, which was a Z. Because I feel like you have more coverage. You start your head at the top and you get middle.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And leg support. So I feel like that's perfect.

[Lily]

Or you could just lay in this bridge diagonal.

[Josh]

Yeah, sure. Yeah, totally. Side sleeper. I'm a side sleeper, so that would make sense. I. I would be tough. You'd be real close again.

[Lily]

You'd never have ice cream again.

[Josh]

I would.

[Amber]

I get a frozen yogurt.

[Josh]

I would be bummed. I think.

[Amber]

Does that imply to Italian food?

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Every food that starts with the letter.

[Amber]

But pizza doesn't start with an I.

[Josh]

Alan said I'm doing X as a side sleeper. And eating my zebra.

[Andrew]

I was gonna say X and just starfish because I can't think of foods that start with.

[Amber]

You have to be M. What? Anything with milk.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Amber]

What are Q. Q.

[Lily]

Why would you sleep on that? How would you sleep? On a queue. You literally sleep with corpse at night.

[Andrew]

If the goal is just good sleep, I'm picking C. That pregnancy pillow.

[Lily]

What are you guys talking about? You sleep.

[Josh]

Yeah. You can't. You can't. There's nothing else.

[Andrew]

But I can sleep on the floor if I got a solid pregnancy.

[Josh]

We're talking about mattresses. You're sleeping on the mattress. That's just an L. Okay, then say that.

[Lily]

What do you. You sleep like this.

[Amber]

Good luck eating lasagna.

[Lily]

Lasagna is my favorite food. I could never. I could never.

[Amber]

Lupio.

[Lily]

Lumpia.

[Amber]

Lumpia.

[Andrew]

I'll just call it an egg roll lettuce like everyone else.

[Lily]

Oh, my goodness. I can't pick.

[Josh]

You have to.

[Amber]

Yeah, just.

[Josh]

It doesn't really imagine this is how we feel every week. Yes, it does, Alan.

[Amber]

I'm saying it's not real life.

[Josh]

It is.

[Lily]

It feels like it.

[Josh]

We are responsible for a purple mattress, and it is dependent on your answer right now.

[Amber]

They're carving your purple mattress yet.

[Josh]

I did, and I'm sleeping. Great. When?

[Lily]

What did you get?

[Josh]

I got.

[Andrew]

She's dodging the question, dude.

[Josh]

Yeah, go ahead.

[Amber]

I'll choose for you.

[Lily]

Okay.

[Amber]

Kiwis. You don't eat kiwis.

[Lily]

I do. I 100% eat kiwis.

[Josh]

Never seen you eat kiwi.

[Amber]

How's your purple mattress?

[Lily]

I'm picking.

[Josh]

I love it.

[Lily]

Why?

[Josh]

Because it's firm.

[Lily]

I'm picking the letter Y. Oh,

[Josh]

okay. I love a mattress. I love a mattress. I love it.

[Lily]

I'm moving on.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Amber]

It's a great mattress.

[Josh]

It's a great mattress. This is the first new mattress we've ever had in our lives. We've always had, like, hand me downs or people are like, hey, I'm putting it on the curb if you don't want it. I'm like, take it.

[Amber]

Ever since the purple mattress in my purple pillow.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Amber]

I have zero neck and back pain.

[Josh]

Yeah. It's. I. I've already felt it because it's like, hotel mattresses are the best. For some reason, I'm like, oh, why is it. And it's like, because it's so firm and our. We have a. We had, like, a memory F to us.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And it was way too soft. You, like, sunk down in it now.

[Lily]

It kills my neck.

[Josh]

Now it's, like, hard as a rock. It feels like, almost. But then we also got the pillow with it.

[Andrew]

Oof.

[Lily]

You got a purple pillow?

[Josh]

Yes, dude.

[Lily]

Game on one. I just got my first purple pillow.

[Josh]

We finance it. We're paying it off, and it's, like, very expensive. They're so expensive.

[Andrew]

We bought a discount one after you told me, and that crap don't work, so.

[Amber]

No, the real stuff is. You gotta get the real stuff and.

[Lily]

But you also have to.

[Amber]

It's, like a 200 pillow.

[Josh]

Yeah. It's dumb, dude.

[Lily]

Steve got me one that I sent him, so it's my fault. But it's. It's too thick. I got the thinner one.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Do you want my thick one?

[Andrew]

I mean, if you're not gonna use it.

[Lily]

I'll give it to you.

[Andrew]

Heck, yeah.

[Amber]

Well, this is not gonna be giving away purple bills.

[Lily]

I can't use it. I mean, you can't use it either. It's our nest.

[Josh]

Hey, if we have apocalypse happening, that's good trade.

[Amber]

Yeah, that's an amazing trade stuff. Yeah, you could probably get, like, 12 chickens for that purple pillow.

[Andrew]

Dang, dude. My neighbor's got chickens and quails now. So if the apocalypse happens, I'm good.

[Lily]

My papa ordered quails in the mail, and they all died before they got there.

[Josh]

That's terrible.

[Lily]

I know.

[Andrew]

Nice.

[Amber]

Andrew hit us with that beat.

[Josh]

Oh, quail, quail, quail, quack, quack.

[Amber]

Andrew's got a real.

[Josh]

Yes, he does. He's gonna show us.

[Amber]

I'm not court enough right now. We're not Asian, not Jamaican.

[Andrew]

This is an animal video, which I just think is crazy. This dude is out. I think he's harvesting firewood, as the story goes. Goes out there with a hatchet. Him and his dog. And this encounter. This encounter is nuts.

[Amber]

Firewater.

[Josh]

Yes. Are you gonna click on it?

[Amber]

I didn't. I don't know what is happening in my pr. I don't have the thing.

[Andrew]

It. It doesn't really matter, but. All right.

[Amber]

Does it need volume?

[Andrew]

I mean. No, it's okay.

[Amber]

I'm just.

[Andrew]

Yeah, just play it. Just. Ready?

[Amber]

Three, two, one, go. Screw that.

[Josh]

I'm choosing an old, rusty axe. Oh, that's what this guy did to defend himself.

[Andrew]

Yeah, the audio sucks.

[Josh]

Second charge, the guy gets into his power.

[Andrew]

Do you see this, though? That bear literally attacked with a hatchet. Dude stands behind a tree in one swing, straight to the.

[Josh]

You gotta do what you gotta do at that point.

[Amber]

That's so scary.

[Andrew]

What a. What a beast. You get one swing. I couldn't remember what the audio was. I wish I did and told you not to play it, but that is scary.

[Amber]

Hey, bear.

[Josh]

Hey, speaking of scary videos, go to your Instagram right now.

[Lily]

I don't have Instagram.

[Josh]

You don't?

[Lily]

No. Yeah, I do.

[Josh]

Come on.

[Lily]

I just deleted it off my main.

[Andrew]

Oh, heck no.

[Josh]

Meta Quest users can now play horror games in their homes.

[Andrew]

Heck no.

[Josh]

And so it scans your home, and so you can see your whole house. But apparitions, zombies, ghosts. And you're hiding and running away from them. And I want to try this so bad with Josh.

[Lily]

What's a meta quest with those headsets?

[Josh]

Those, like, meta headsets? Is that like a long journey?

[Lily]

I didn't know if it was these people Getting those chips in their brains.

[Josh]

No. Tap into just one of those headsets. VR headsets. Very pretty. Creepy, dude. How nuts would that be?

[Andrew]

Absolutely not.

[Josh]

Yeah. Also, I'm sending to the chat again, this is a really cool robot that they've come out with. We always have climbing and gliding robots and flying drones. This one is a jumping robot.

[Lily]

I haven't been on Instagram in so long. I've got so many notifications.

[Amber]

That is so fun.

[Josh]

Isn't that awesome? It's like a little pogo stick, dude.

[Lily]

Literally looks like a fairy out of it.

[Josh]

But it's built for, like, battle zones and stuff.

[Lily]

For battle zones?

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Lily]

What's it gonna do?

[Josh]

Like, I guess, checking landmines and stuff? Or, like, oh, tiptoe through the.

[Andrew]

To.

[Amber]

Speaking of crazy in war and robots.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Amber]

This. Did you see that video of these Ukrainian soldiers in that bunker?

[Josh]

No.

[Amber]

Okay, so they're sitting in this bunker. They got a camera to the outside of their bunker, and they see a drone coming in. Like one of the. Yeah, the ones that you see in Russia.

[Josh]

The ones you see before you die. Yeah, yeah.

[Amber]

And they're like, oh, and they, like, plug their ears and they do that, and it hits, and they're like, everyone good? Yeah, we're good. But they're like, watch this. It's crazy. They literally just brace for impact.

[Andrew]

Because they're like, instagram.

[Lily]

No, he's sending the text.

[Amber]

Okay, here, I'll play it.

[Josh]

All right. Three, two, one.

[Amber]

No, they're actually coming towards us, toward us. Ears, Ears.

[Josh]

Oh, my goodness. Bro,

[Andrew]

that.

[Amber]

It's okay, bro.

[Josh]

Golly, dude, that stuff is straight up terrifying.

[Andrew]

Dude, I figured out. I figured out what I'm gonna do to protect my house from drone attacks. Do you guys remember, like, going through the mall back when that was the thing but they had that store, Spencer's. Yeah, I remember, like, like, lights and lasers used to always, like, spin around. I'm getting that green laser thing, and I'm just putting it on my roof.

[Amber]

Bro, you could just tie fishing string all up in your trees.

[Josh]

That's true.

[Amber]

Although it probably wouldn't stop a bomb dropped from a drone.

[Josh]

Might get tangled up before it does, though.

[Amber]

I never know.

[Andrew]

I literally. I found that green laser you got me, and I'm like, if I could see a drone coming and it didn't want it, I was like, that would actually disable one. It would fry the sensors in it.

[Josh]

Or what if you just got a bunch of trampolines on top of your house and the bombs would just bounce off, dude.

[Lily]

Genius.

[Josh]

I mean, genius.

[Amber]

Do you remember that video of those people that were looking at, like an orb or something? It was just that light and they did the green laser at it and then it shined a green, green laser back at them.

[Josh]

No, I don't remember that. That's scary. Yeah, yeah, that's. Why would it do.

[Amber]

They're like, what's going on? I started doing it onto them.

[Josh]

I can do it to you. Those people that shoot lasers at, like, pilots and stuff, it's crazy how fast they can. Like, how they can just nail down the person. Like, oh, they were just in a garage chilling with their buddies.

[Amber]

Next thing you got a black clock landing on your freaking roof.

[Josh]

That's scary.

[Andrew]

They can't do that. It's propaganda.

[Josh]

Yeah, dude. How strong of a laser do you have, though, too?

[Andrew]

I'll try it. We'll figure it out.

[Amber]

Teemu.

[Josh]

Temu.comninjas.

[Amber]

speaking of Teemu.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Amber]

Let's talk about the Teemu of Hitler. No, his name's not that.

[Andrew]

We need a better.

[Amber]

This is a very interesting story, man. It's. Yeah. So there's this guy who came out in 2017. His name is or was Herman Gutenberg, also known as Adolf Leipzig. And this man claimed that he. Because he was getting close to the end of his life, he claimed that he was Hitler and that he fled Nazi Germany and moved to Argentina, where he's. Was residing.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Amber]

And he had the same birthday as Adolf Hitler, which was April 20th. April 20th, 1889. This is where it gets weird.

[Josh]

He's over a hundred.

[Amber]

He would have been 128 years old in 2017.

[Lily]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Amber]

Which would make him one of the oldest living people on record ever. Of all time. What we read about in scripture. But let me show you this picture of them. There's just a lot of weird thing, like, he was saying a lot of stuff that lined up. One, he was saying that he fled to Argentina and claimed that the CIA was protecting him because they were using information in the Cold War era.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Lily]

Oh, boy.

[Amber]

And he also stated that Israel knew that he was alive and that they used that information to their disposal. He claimed that he wrote the book Hitler died in Argentina under a pseudonym, which I don't believe because I looked up the author and it was not him. Yeah, but he claimed that he wrote it under a pseudonym.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Amber]

But, yeah. So in 2017, media outlets reported this claim, and he was born in 1820. Or, sorry, April 20, 1889, same birthday as Hitler. He allegedly had documentation showing that he was Adolf Hitler. But this is what's weird. They. The news never tried to verify it. They never asked for birth certificates. They never did DNA testing. They never questioned it any further. Yeah, there's like. It's like the story was just dropped. It was like, let's just start talking about, like, forget about it.

[Lily]

Dang.

[Josh]

It seems like a story worth running no matter what.

[Amber]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Because one, he is Adolph, and that's in a miracle. And how did he live so long? He probably found some ancient technology to. The dude's lying about being the worst human being of all time.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Amber]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Like, so it's a story.

[Amber]

Yeah. You see all the picture, though.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Amber]

You could kind of see it.

[Lily]

Their noses are different. Their noses are different.

[Amber]

Well, you know, your nose and ears. Years are the one things that don't stop growing on you.

[Lily]

That's true.

[Josh]

That really freaks me out. The mustache is different too.

[Lily]

Yikes.

[Amber]

But this is where people start, like, saying there is some. There could be some validity. Validity to this.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Amber]

Not. Not that it's necessarily him, but Hitler did in fact escape to Argentina and lived out the rest of his days in Argentina.

[Lily]

Right.

[Amber]

Was the fact that after World War II, there. There's documents of the FBI and the CIA looking into the fact that Hitler may have moved to Argentina and that it basically ends with, like, there's no credible proof.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Amber]

But the fact that they're even looking into it. Some people are saying that's enough to speculate that he was in fact there.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Amber]

And this could be mixed in with the whole Project Paperclip thing where it's like, let's. Okay, we know he's there, but we might even be able to get some more information with him, because now we're at war with the ussr, the Soviets, during this whole Cold War era. So it's like, we could use information for him. We could use maybe the. The secret army or generals that he still knows in Argentina for our benefit, you know?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Amber]

It's just interesting.

[Andrew]

Dude, look.

[Josh]

Very interesting.

[Andrew]

Look at the screen record I just sent you guys. This is the photo you sent. But if you grab one and lay it over, I mean, that lines up. Dude.

[Amber]

It's just weird. But you're right. Why would. Why would you claim to be, like, one of the worst men in history.

[Josh]

Yeah. Without some type of motive.

[Lily]

I mean, he could have just been, like, obsessed and nutty.

[Amber]

I'm sorry.

[Josh]

I want to take this chance to apologize for absolutely no one. Run it back. No.

[Lily]

I even remember as a Kid when they were like telling us about the Holocaust and they were like, oh, yeah, he like committed suicide after and whatever. I'm like, that sounds fishy.

[Josh]

But what do they do with his body?

[Amber]

Here's the thing.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Amber]

Russia took his body. The USSR, 100%. In fact, they took his body. They had all the dental records and stuff and they refused to. To let the United States test on it.

[Josh]

Okay. Seems weird.

[Amber]

Yeah. And apparently at one point, ussr, they did test it and it came back not Hitler. It was actually a female. Yep.

[Lily]

Yeah, I've heard that.

[Andrew]

Yeah. They don't have the remains.

[Josh]

A Delphina.

[Amber]

And.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Amber]

And now I think it's like they don't know where the remains are. I think they said that they burnt them or something. They got rid of

[Andrew]

after they were tested to be the wrong gender. They got lost and so now they're gone.

[Josh]

That's weird. Yeah, I. I mean, my money is he did escape. I mean, you got to get out of there.

[Amber]

You also think this is kind of dark, but Hitler seemed like an incredibly narcissistic person.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

What?

[Amber]

I know, I know that might shock some of you, but he seemed like the world kind of revolved around him.

[Josh]

I guess.

[Amber]

In your opinion, typically, people with narcissism don't do that. Unalive themselves.

[Josh]

Yeah. I like to believe that. He started painting again in Argentina. Wow.

[Lily]

He became a muralist, maybe opened a dog shelter.

[Josh]

Yeah. Maybe Walt Disney reached out to him, said, hey, I got some really cool murals I would love for you to just to take a stab at.

[Lily]

We went and saw them, by the way, the Wernher von Braun murals.

[Josh]

Yeah. Crazy, right?

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Super strange.

[Amber]

Anyways, Wolf.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Amber]

It could be him. Could not be him. We'll never know. The hunt, the 128 years old thing, That's a little. That's a little crazy. But. Yeah, but let's just. If we're already on this conspiracy journey, let's continue down further.

[Josh]

This is a big bot.

[Amber]

Hitler was really into that ancient occult. Looking for Shambhala, looking for the stones of. What is it? The Stones of Shambhala. Remember we talked about the. The. Yeah, I remember. Immortality. About the philosopher's stone and to alchemy. Who's to say that he didn't find something?

[Josh]

No. That's where my mind went. Yeah.

[Amber]

In Argentina. That has some ancient roots to it.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Yeah. Why Argentina? From Germany? Why is. Yeah. I mean, how close is it to Germany? Yeah. Far away.

[Lily]

Another continent.

[Josh]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I'M trying to think. Like, that seems like a random place to go.

[Amber]

It's very random.

[Lily]

Yeah. I wonder why they chose that. That. Where were we politically with Argentina at the time?

[Amber]

Well, I think that's the thing. I think Argentina was politically aligned with Nazi Germany. It was kind of like their allies. I. I think communism. No, they weren't communists.

[Lily]

What were they?

[Amber]

Socialists.

[Josh]

So they're just social people.

[Amber]

Very social.

[Josh]

What's wrong with socialism, then? Well, I mean, if you just want to hang out with people and chat and get to know people. Well, sounds like really good conversationalists.

[Amber]

Hitler really hated communists, and the USSR Was communists. Communist socialists. And so they didn't like each other.

[Josh]

Man, you're killing it today.

[Lily]

I know, dude. Good job and eye coordination.

[Amber]

Yep.

[Josh]

Crazy stuff, man.

[Lily]

Yikes.

[Josh]

I think that's fascinating, though. The thing that he did exist somewhere else and have a whole other life. Like, how do you get away from that? Can't just, like, shave your mustache. Like. Like Harrison Ford in the Fugitive, and just, like, I'm a new person.

[Amber]

There's pictures of people that speculated this was Adolf Hitler, like, with his mustache shaved and stuff.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Amber]

Like, later on. And there's some. It looks pretty believable.

[Josh]

Yeah. What we were joking during the pod. The pod break is that, like, imagine, like, Adolf going back and trying to live a normal life and, like, just getting a normal job and having someone else tell him what to do. And, like, him having to listen to his boss's speeches. He's like, you have no idea.

[Lily]

You have no idea.

[Amber]

What happened came up.

[Josh]

I could ruin this country with one good speech.

[Lily]

I finished Father Seraphim Rose's Religion in the Future.

[Josh]

The book.

[Lily]

Yes. And the second epilogue, because this book is so old and they keep commenting on it. The second epilogue talks about Jim Jones. Yeah, that happened there.

[Josh]

Jonestown.

[Lily]

Jonestown. And apparently, like, every. The combined assets of everybody that passed away was like, $7 million or something. Like, whoa. And they gave every penny to the Communist Party.

[Josh]

Geez Louise. Dude, that's crazy.

[Amber]

Really. I forgot about that,

[Josh]

dude. Have you guys ever listened to the Jonestown tapes?

[Lily]

No, I never wanted.

[Amber]

Absolutely.

[Josh]

You've heard them.

[Lily]

I literally was reading. They didn't even go into what they did. And I was already horrified, sickened, upset.

[Josh]

I listened to a podcast. Podcast. And they played them, and I just couldn't believe. Have you heard them? Oh, whoa. Pause real quick. We're gonna be talking about some really triggering stuff in the next. For the next, like, 10 minutes. So if you need to skip ahead and you got little tiny ears around, or you just don't want to be. You have your day ruined.

[Andrew]

Probably.

[Josh]

Skip forward.

[Amber]

Wink, wink.

[Josh]

I mean, you can literally hear kids and women screaming.

[Amber]

Well, the thing is, the people were saying that they took it on their own volition, but they were forced to take it.

[Lily]

Yeah. They were gonna be shot.

[Amber]

They were.

[Lily]

They didn't. They have guns.

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because a lot of people were backing out of it after seeing the effects of other people, and they refused to let them. Dude, it's wild, man.

[Lily]

Horrifying. Horrifying.

[Josh]

You know, stuff like that is happening right now. Like, we just don't know about it. We're not. We're not aware of it.

[Lily]

There's cults everywhere.

[Josh]

Yeah. And we think about these Epstein. I was listening to a guy online yesterday, and he was talking about, like, you think these Epstein files are bad? He's like, you don't think we'd have millions of other people that are creepos that are like that on the Internet that are already doing this stuff? It's like. Like, this is just the tip of the ice.

[Lily]

Did you hear about. What is this whole thing? I know we've talked about it before, but it was, like, the number one photographer for schools.

[Josh]

We've talked about. Yeah.

[Lily]

Yes. What is it called? Like, I can't remember, but they're owned

[Josh]

by, like, it's somehow in court, like, owned by BlackRock and, like, all these other people. And it's like, we're just having these people, these organizations that luckily we had, you know, at our school and our high school, we had somebody that was local that everyone knew everyone loved.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Shout out. Total image from Chinu, Kansas. Gary, did you.

[Andrew]

Did you see that?

[Josh]

He was great.

[Andrew]

See the guy who's on Rogan? I think he was the director of maybe Pulp Fiction. I might be completely getting Tarantino. Okay. No, whoever was on Rogan. Some director from Hollywood. But he's like. He was like, 100%. They're eating kids.

[Lily]

Oh, yeah.

[Andrew]

And then he. But he brings up the fact he's, like, huge, like, current female singer, performer. He's like, I know. She's sacrificing chickens every day. He's like, they all do, like, rituals. And then. And then Rogan's like, what do you talk? Like, who? He's like, I'm not gonna say because I'm not getting sued. But he was like, basically, we all in the industry know these people are doing it.

[Lily]

Yeah. Keanu Reeves told a story, like, in the early 2000s where he went to a party, too, and there was a baby in the freezer here.

[Andrew]

This is my business. Dark. This is my. But, but this is. This is my call out.

[Amber]

You're like, a little warning, but before we talk about this.

[Lily]

Yeah, true.

[Andrew]

My call out, though, is like, hey, I don't want to get sued, dude, if kids are dying and you know about it. Be a freaking man.

[Amber]

Yeah, no, I know.

[Lily]

Well. And Cannery said he punched the dude and he ran out.

[Andrew]

Call him. I mean.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

I mean, like, live stream the crap. I just remember.

[Amber]

Do you remember that clip Mel Gibson literally went on?

[Josh]

Yeah. About that backroom interview kind of thing.

[Amber]

Yeah, yeah. And then next. Yeah.

[Josh]

And it makes you wonder, like, it's just like. It's scary stuff. Like, I mean, Keanu Reeves live has been surrounded by tragedy as well. And it's like, I don't want to read too much into it, but golly, man, they have a lot of power.

[Amber]

Yeah.

[Lily]

It's insane. Yeah, I. There was this woman. I was watching her hot take on it, and she was like, I sent it to you. There was a lot of swearing, so I'm not gonna recommend it. But she's like, this is happening. They're eating people. But too many people are going missing and too many kids. So what are they doing with the rest of them? She said that she thinks they're giving them to the aliens.

[Josh]

Is this Roseanne Barr? No, no, no.

[Lily]

This woman is not famous. No, I mean, like, with the Eisenhower thing, like, him just being all upset and stuff like that. What if, like, part of it is that we have to give people to the aliens?

[Amber]

Yeah, whatever.

[Josh]

Carter.

[Amber]

Yeah, Jimmy Carter.

[Lily]

Whatever.

[Amber]

Not whatever.

[Josh]

Not whatever.

[Lily]

I'm bothered.

[Josh]

But, I mean, we have presidents that been confirmed at Bohemian Grove doing mock sacrifices. Like, this isn't normal stuff.

[Amber]

And that's what I'm. This is. This is a weird. If you want to talk about living in simulations, when stuff like this happens, it feels like a simulation because it's like, well, one. The media are not talking about this stuff at all. This is like the biggest scandal in probably human history.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Amber]

Like, truthfully, like, we're talking about. The elites that basically run the world, run society, are in these emails. And there's allegations of eating people, of hurting children, of doing all types of manipulating viruses.

[Josh]

Yeah. The most power.

[Amber]

Talking about in the travel. Like, I mean, this is like. Yeah, this is crazy.

[Josh]

It's nuts. So. And you have Pam Bondi in front of the con, in front of Congress, basically saying if we, you know, we Went after every single person. It would, like, bankrupt America. And it's like, oh, yeah, she said

[Amber]

it would ruin society or something like that.

[Josh]

I saw a. It was a meme with Inglorious Bastard. The movie.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

With Brad Pitt saying, I'd make that deal. Wouldn't you? It's like, yeah, go for it.

[Lily]

I. I would do. No, seriously, it is.

[Andrew]

It is the. He's one of the screenwriters and directors of Pulp Fiction. Robert Roberts Avery. He's on jre.

[Amber]

Oh, word.

[Andrew]

So.

[Lily]

So, yeah, like, what do we do in this?

[Josh]

I. I mean, we fall for the tricks.

[Andrew]

That's. Well, that's your thing.

[Amber]

One thing you can keep talking about so it stays at the forefront of people's minds. Like, oh, oh, all these people that are the elites. Not all of them, sure. But the ones that were named, they're corrupt and they've done really evil things. Who's to say that they've stopped doing these evil things?

[Lily]

No, I know.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Amber]

And it's like, look for people to put into power that have some sense of morality.

[Lily]

I know.

[Amber]

Maybe pursue Christ. You know, it's like, Christ wins in the whole. This whole thing. Christ is going to win.

[Lily]

I know.

[Amber]

And like, the stuff. It's come out on purpose. Justice will happen in this life or the next.

[Josh]

Justice will. Yeah.

[Lily]

The Lord says Avengers is mine. You know, what are these elites saying about. How are they.

[Andrew]

Like, they wouldn't say anything. Like, stay silent.

[Lily]

What does Trump say? What does Elon Musk say?

[Amber]

He's saying, move past it.

[Lily]

Yeah, but are they saying this is fake? Are they saying this is. There's fake stuff in it?

[Amber]

How are they saying. Well, that. Yeah, it. They're. It's The. The message is just getting muddy.

[Andrew]

It's fake news.

[Josh]

Well, because when I hear ago, Pam Bondi and Donald Trump said there were no files, it was all a scam. And it's like, well, what are we looking at now, then?

[Amber]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Are we just all imagining this?

[Lily]

Who released the files?

[Amber]

The doj, officially. But the DOJ is also covering up a bunch of stuff, refusing to interview a lot of the victims from these

[Josh]

files that want to speak out.

[Amber]

That want to speak out. It's. It's a whole. And by the time it comes out, I don't know what's happened, if the DOJ started doing that, but in the congressional hearing with Pam Bondi there, that some victims in the crowd behind them and they stood up and they were like, we have not been able to testify to the DOJ or to Pam Bondi. The attorney General.

[Lily]

Wow.

[Josh]

But, yeah, Cash Patel, the director of the FBI, says, we don't want to victimize these, these women any longer. And it's like they're.

[Andrew]

They're screaming to be heard.

[Josh]

First of all, don't. First of all, don't speak for them. You know, they're. You know, they're. They're women, they're. They're full grown women that, that now can speak for themselves and stand up for themselves. And so let them speak. And also don't. Yeah. Like, just. You're putting that mindset on them.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

That they don't want to be victimized anymore. Guess what? They've already been victimized. Maybe give them some justice.

[Lily]

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Where is Cash Patel in this whole thing? Because he was also saying the files. The files were nil. He was saying that, like, there's nothing.

[Amber]

Do you think if I. If there's evidence on this? He said, you don't think I would say anything?

[Josh]

Dude, I'm telling you, I called from the very beginning as soon as I saw him. He is a liar, bro.

[Lily]

That.

[Andrew]

That argum only works. It's like if you're arguing with your spouse and they say like, so you're telling me I'm crazy? Obviously that's not the moment to say. Yes, but like, if you no longer respect a person and that's still the argument. It's like, that is exactly what I'm saying. Sir. You are hiding everything.

[Amber]

Yeah. With this stuff too. Agree. We have to stop for a second because part of this whole psy up thing is to keep dividing people and, like, create sides and stuff. And it's like the. What we do truly need to focus on is that like, that Christ is king over everything and all this stuff.

[Josh]

It's good versus evil.

[Andrew]

I don't want to hear your emotionally stable reason right now. I want to be angry and I want to fight someone.

[Josh]

It's flesh and blood. That's all we're fighting right now. And there's a lot of greed and power and manipulation happening, and it's just evil.

[Amber]

Yeah.

[Lily]

We do need to pray about it. And I will say we have some very talented ninjas fans, super talented Sleuthers. And what I want is kind of like one of those apps, you know, where you can scan your groceries and see if it has crap in it. Somebody make an app where you can scan a brand and see if it's at all affiliated with any of these list members. Because I want to stop giving them my money.

[Amber]

Oh, it's going to be everything.

[Andrew]

Everything.

[Lily]

I know it'll be everything.

[Josh]

Yeah. Andrew just showed me some of his. A video of guy that had like a bunch like apples and grapes, like donated to like in the in to a fire department. And he. It was leftover so he took it out and he used it as bait for deer and stuff. And he laid it out three days later sitting in the hot sun. They look just as brand new as the day they got them.

[Andrew]

Yeah, dude, it was crazy.

[Josh]

No deteriorating, no mold, no nothing.

[Andrew]

He had a corn feeder and the in deer. Every day he's like, I killed a ton of deer off this feeder. And he had fresh tracks going past everything. But the crazy deer can be picky. But he has hogs all over that property and they didn't touch it.

[Lily]

Wow, that's so interesting.

[Amber]

Yeah.

[Lily]

And we wonder why everybody's getting so sick.

[Josh]

Yeah, they're going to keep us that way.

[Andrew]

Lily, if you get that app, you're going to start hunting with me.

[Lily]

I don't think so. I don't think so.

[Josh]

Could you imagine Lily, like, like the lady from Prey the movie, out in the woods, just hunting things crazy.

[Amber]

You'd be good at it.

[Josh]

No, I'm telling you, that's what would be scary if there, there, there has to be something. Like as soon as the apocalypse hits, there's going to be a switch that goes off in her brain and it's like she's living in the woods. She's digging a hole to sleep in.

[Lily]

I think, I think that I can't achieve that.

[Josh]

I think I. I don't doubt it whatsoever. I'm just saying, like, I just don't want to get to that point because I would be terrified of you.

[Lily]

I know. Yeah.

[Amber]

Well, speaking of hidden agendas, okay. Have you guys ever heard of operation Gladio?

[Josh]

Gladio.

[Amber]

Gladio.

[Andrew]

Sounds Italian.

[Josh]

Sounds happy.

[Amber]

Thank you. I'm gladio and not Gladio because this is a bad thing.

[Josh]

It's a badio.

[Lily]

Oh no.

[Andrew]

It's a bad.

[Josh]

Oh no. What's Gladio about?

[Amber]

Operation Gladio was the Italian branch of the secret NATO quote, stay behind network created during the early Cold war. Its purpose was to prepare covert resistance cells across Western Europe. Europe in case of Soviet. In case the Soviet Union invaded. But it became public in the 1990s and triggered one of Europe's biggest political scandals.

[Josh]

Oh.

[Amber]

Because of bad things that they did.

[Josh]

What they do.

[Amber]

So this Operation Gladio, it was a far right wing political party that were allied with the CIA and MI6, which is Britain's CIA, basically.

[Lily]

We've seen 007.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Amber]

But what they did was just, they created like, like sleeper cells, basically, and they started making these political movements, like, out of thin air. And they would, in these hidden cells, they would conduct sabotage, organize resistance and coordinate with native forces. In Italy.

[Andrew]

Oh, sorry.

[Amber]

In Italy, this program was called Gladio, Latin for sword. It was overseen by the Italian military intelligence and coordinated with NATO, which they. Technically, NATO's never came out and said, like, yeah, we were a part of this fully. Because this Operation Gladio, they had this thing called the strategy of tension, which it kind of seems like this has happened quite a bit. And sure, the United States, but during the 1960s through the 1980s, Italy experienced bombings and terror attacks in what was known as the years of lead. One of the most famous ones was the Pisa Piazza Fontana bombing, which apparently killed a lot of people. But what it did was they, they did it and then they blamed it on communists. But it was in fact the Italian government of Operation Gladio that were doing the terrorist attacks on their own people to create this tension of fear to oppose the Communist Party. And so, like that, like when all this stuff came out, people were like, you were killing your own people.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Amber]

So that we would be afraid of the communists.

[Lily]

And you think that's not happening right now here.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Amber]

But there's a really creepy thing that was connected to it called propaganda do, or the P2, which was also known as the Shadow Masonic lodge.

[Lily]

Oh, boy.

[Andrew]

That were.

[Amber]

Were highly involved in Italy in this Operation gladio. And this P2, this propaganda do was a clandestine Masonic lodge that operated in Italy during the 1970s and 1980s. It was led by Lucio Jelly and functioned less than a fraternal group and more like a covert political network. And so in this Masonic lodge, they had senior military officials, intelligence officials, politicians, media executives, bankers and industrialists and everyone. Yeah. And then when this whole Operation Gladio thing came to light, the. I believe it was the Italian government, they went and they raided this. What's his name, Lisio. Is that what I said? Yeah, Lissio Lisio Jelly. They raided his house, found all these documents, basically talking about this thing that they called the. The plan for democratic rebirth, where they were staging all these events to where their party of this Masonic lodge was going to take over the Italian government.

[Lily]

Goodness grace.

[Amber]

And they had it like, they had the propaganda of, like, what we're going to say in the media, what the, the. What the, the military is going to do, what this organization is going to do. They plotted it all out.

[Josh]

Goodness gracious.

[Amber]

Dude. They got found out and I'm like,

[Andrew]

but did they go away?

[Amber]

Well, we don't know.

[Josh]

It's like the business plot all over again.

[Amber]

Yeah. But it said. Yeah. So the. The plan for democratic rebirth was one of the most controversial documents found at P2. The Piano di resinstita. Democratic.

[Josh]

Nailed it.

[Lily]

Good job.

[Amber]

The plan for the rebirth, it outlined goals such as weakening trade unions, restricting or.

[Andrew]

Sorry.

[Amber]

Restructuring the judicial.

[Josh]

Judicial.

[Amber]

Oh, someone knock?

[Josh]

Not sure.

[Lily]

No, I think he got a phone call.

[Amber]

It's a lot of distractions.

[Josh]

No, sorry.

[Amber]

Restructuring the judic.

[Josh]

Hey, look over here. Judiciary.

[Lily]

Do something too.

[Amber]

Restructuring the judiciary.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Amber]

Increasing executive power, gaining influence over media, reducing the strength of left wing parties. And so they had this whole blueprint where they're like, we're going to implement this. And they're like, we caught you.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Amber]

But the fact that it was this, this like they called the Shadow Lodge, like it was a Masonic lodge.

[Josh]

Yeah. Filled with powerful.

[Amber]

If you know anything about the Masons.

[Andrew]

Yeah, dude.

[Lily]

A cult.

[Amber]

They get along with everybody. And so like, if this Masonic lodge was doing this in Italy, imagine what they're doing all over the world.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Amber]

Plotting and scheming.

[Josh]

Yeah. They've been around for a long time. They know how everything works.

[Lily]

And you know something? When men be fraternizing, that's when this stuff goes down.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Oh, it's women too.

[Lily]

Women be doing other stuff.

[Amber]

Women be shopping.

[Josh]

Women be.

[Andrew]

You want to hear what women are doing in Italy right now?

[Lily]

What? Oh, gosh.

[Andrew]

Have you heard about all of the protests leading up to the Olympics?

[Lily]

No. Are they upset?

[Andrew]

Probably not, because they've buried the them.

[Lily]

Oh, no, sorry.

[Andrew]

I kind of came back in. I don't know if you finished.

[Amber]

No. Yeah, I didn't.

[Andrew]

Okay, perfect. That was like such a good transition because all my research was on Italian conspiracies leading up to the Olympics.

[Lily]

Mama mia.

[Andrew]

There are three incidents. There are three incidents that no, like, I haven't heard reported anywhere. There was a fiber optic cable that controls railway railway speeds that was cut leading up to the Olympics. They tried to like, shut down their infrastructure. They set fire to a switch cabin. I think that's like, which rail. They were like, literally trying to shut down, like, travel and cause problems like that. They even found like a rudimentary bomb leading up to the Olympics right now.

[Josh]

Geez.

[Andrew]

But no one talked about any of that stuff. And so we don't know if for sure this anarchist group was responsible with a lot of acts of terror. Something crazy happens. And they're like, hey, that serves our purpose. Let's claim it. So I don't, I don't know if this is true, but the. The group is called La Nemesi. Sounds like nemesis.

[Lily]

My nemesis.

[Andrew]

But. So that's the group that claimed it. Now here's their reason. They said the government is using the Olympics to further surveillance. And it's like, well, I kind of get that. I mean, like, if that many people and that much event, I would hope that there's a better cop presence and, you know, yeah, safety and security. But check this out. Here's the history. Here's why this anarchist group is so angry. Excuse me, she chugged a monster energy drink. After 911 wiretap started. We saw that everywhere, Right. So they started wiretapping and they. What's crazy though is they increased their data retention centers. And so all of the tapping wasn't just like, let's log this for a period and then get rid of it. No, it's continued monitoring. And then there was trauma in 2001, so I guess that it was called the G8 Genoa trauma and police violence. It was a protest. Police violence broke out, someone died, a ton of people were injured. And then it actually got brought up between the OR in front of the European Court of Human Rights. And they actually like officially condemned Italy's actions. They like, Italy got in trouble for the police state and how they like completely not only disregarded Italy's laws, but human rights in general. So, like, Europe had to get involved. And then in 2010, they got. It was discovered that they were using face ID surveillance. And like, literally they like, they were tracking all these oppositional groups, but they were like identified players in them and they were using their face surveillance systems all over Italy to know where these people were all the time, got in trouble, they're like, all right, we'll stop. And then slowly but surely have like changed laws to like, be able to like regain this ground. So there's this history of, as they claim, the anarchist groups keep pointing out that they manufacture a crisis. What they say, or there is a crisis, it leads to security measures, then they become permanent, and then it finally becomes the new normal. But what they did with the face surveillance stuff is they declared a state of emergency. And then when the protest stuff started happening, they redefined what terror was. So terrorism is whatever they decide.

[Amber]

Terrorism is kind of the generalization that the whole world is doing right now.

[Andrew]

Yep. And now it's a state of emergency because we're under Terror.

[Amber]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

And so they get to do this whole entirely new surveillance state. And under Italy's prime minister, Giorgio Maloney, basically dissent has become criminalized. So, like, if you oppose their view, and we see this, like. Like, free speech is kind of disappearing across Europe. Yeah. But now they have, like, history of surveillance, and so anyone who begins to vocally oppose it. And so, like, I'm not in. I'm not saying what this anarchist group did was right. Like, I'm not at all.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

But it is interesting to see that they're like, your freedom of speech is taken away. And so they're like, the only protests we're allowed are the ones that are unheard. And so this anarchist group is escalating beyond words. Yeah, allegedly. And so it's just like this crazy concoction of government overreach, and then people who feel helpless. Helpless doing things they shouldn't do.

[Amber]

Yeah, well, I mean, it's like. Yeah, you never condone violence.

[Andrew]

Right.

[Amber]

But it's also like, at what point, because you look back in history, like, the American Revolution and stuff like that, it's like there came a point to where it's like the people were being oppressed so much that they. The collective of the country, would gather their arms or like, whatever, and they would stand up against the tyranny or whatever, this dictatorship, you know, it's like. And we celebrate that in history.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Amber]

And then it's like. But when it's happening to you, and, like, you look at, like. I'm not necessarily saying, like, we need to stand up to our government, but there comes a point towards, like, they're. They don't have the people's interests in mind anymore.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

It's like, think about the timeline of events. So they're saying. The Italian anarchist group is saying they use the Olympics because, like. And this is, you know, whoever these people are, they're saying they're literally watching me with face tracking. They know where I am all the time. Like, that's. So now I'm ticked. And then they use the Olympics to not only increase their justification for surveillance, but now there's, like, actual military presence. And so the precursor to complete control is a big public spectacle that everybody appreciates, which I'm like, I mean, I get it. But then you think about how that works. And then I think about, what do we have coming up in the United States?

[Amber]

The Olympics.

[Andrew]

Oh, yeah.

[Amber]

The World Cup.

[Andrew]

The World Cup, Dang. So we are about to be. Potentially.

[Amber]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Infrastructure is continuing to go. And now we have, like, AI Running stuff. So you think about the surveillance.

[Amber]

That's the. Honestly, this seems like it's been a plan for a long time, dude. Like, especially I think, think Covid was just like the most probably revealing where it's like there's this threat against this whole world. So now we got to set up these precautions to like. And like, we gotta monitor this stuff. We gotta monitor whether or not you've been vaccinated, all this stuff. And it's like. But that's stuck. And it's like we didn't get rid of it. And so it's just like what you said, they're just adding on little by little by little.

[Andrew]

Yeah. Once we accept it, then they can push it further.

[Josh]

Have you guys ever heard about that chimpanzee ladder experiment that they put on like in the 80s?

[Andrew]

No.

[Josh]

So this is fascinating. So they take 10 chimpanzees that all know each other and they put them in a room with a ladder. And at the top of this ladder on the ceiling, there's this water sprinkler that shoots down, like power washing level type of water. And every time the chimpanzee climbs up to a certain part of the ladder, this sprinkler goes off. And they start learning that over time.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Then they take out two of the chimpanzees, they put in new ones, and then these new chimpanzees will try to climb up the ladder and the water comes down. And over time, they switch out another two chimpanzees and put the new ones in there. And it gets to the point where none of the original chimpanzees are in that room. It's all brand new ones. But anytime one of the chimpanzees touch the ladder, the other chimpanzees would turn on that chimpanzee and start beating it up. But even though none of them had ever witnessed or been affected by the sprinkler of the water, they had just learned, don't do that or you're going to get hurt. And so it's just like this learned mentality, being trained by an outside force of what not to do and how, like we just as a society just kind of react. React to things when we really don't know. It's like, so it's like, I think that's why we look at like France and like, man, the way the protests and the way they do things. So get a change across is really a big deal. But it's like, I think we've been just Trained to just not, I know, stand up or, like, understand our own power in this whole thing and, like, our own free will.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

And before the audience thinks I'm like, advocating violence, I really think our military in her tech is, like, we've been complacent for so long that the tech that they possess, like, you're not going to walk, you know, with a pew pew in your road. A drone or a laser is going to fly from somewhere and deal with you. Live by the sword, die by the sword. Like, if you actually try that. Escalation, I don't think is the answer to these problems. But that's why I'm super thankful that we have a hope beyond this world.

[Josh]

Well, that's what you have to ask yourself. Who's the Lord of your life?

[Amber]

Is it.

[Josh]

Is it your own control?

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Is it Jesus? Is it media? Is it being comfortable? What is the most important thing in your life?

[Andrew]

Life?

[Josh]

And if it's, you know, if it's not Jesus, then it's got to be something.

[Lily]

And that's.

[Josh]

And it's.

[Lily]

That's what I've been thinking about a lot. Is that the same sin that God flooded the earth over is the sin that is present in our nation and that God hates what is happening.

[Andrew]

Yeah. And Noah didn't raise an army.

[Lily]

No, he didn't.

[Andrew]

He taught repentance to deaf ears.

[Amber]

Yeah.

[Lily]

And so we just have to take faith in the fact that's the biggest

[Amber]

revolution, the Jesus revolution.

[Josh]

The roomy, save us.

[Amber]

But for real, it's like, that's what changes nations.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Amber]

Is the power of Christ.

[Josh]

And people say that's, you know, that's too naive and that's too simple.

[Amber]

It's just like, well, look at history. Well, look at Rome. The. The biggest persecutors of Christians ended up becoming a Christian empire.

[Josh]

Yeah. It's not easy, but it's simple.

[Andrew]

That's what I was thinking about when you. We were talking about Elon Musk. And like, imagine, like, on this pursuit, pursuit of, like, intellectualism or whatever. Like, and I'm not whatever. Like, he may or may not have done all this other stuff, but imagine, like, getting to a point. Like, think about, like, the soldier who pierced Jesus and then is like, truly, this was the son of God. Like, there comes a point like that dude was as in it as you can get for that time. There comes a point when you're, like, climbing this intellectual ladder, trying to figure out all this stuff, and at some point, these people can come to places where they're like, dang, I've had it all wrong. Like, don't lose faith or hope in the fact that Jesus can still change people big time.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Paul was a persecutor and a murderer of Christians hunting them down in homes. And he wrote most of the New Testament.

[Josh]

So, like, we can't hate.

[Amber]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Like, that's. It's so easy to hate when we read that through that list.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And hate these people. But it's like, no, we can. But we can recognize evil when we see it.

[Andrew]

Hate sin, advocate for victims, but never take judgment into your own hands. Like, yeah, trust your savior. He's. He's got it.

[Lily]

Although they did say in the Old Testament, when somebody murders somebody, you gotta murder them back. You know what I'm saying? I'm not doing that, though.

[Amber]

What Christ says,

[Josh]

you've heard it said, an eye for an eye.

[Amber]

But I'm saying, love your enemies. Pray for those that persecute you.

[Lily]

It's true.

[Andrew]

Put your sword away, Lily.

[Lily]

I know, I know. I'm mad.

[Andrew]

Lily's about to go find a millstone.

[Josh]

You need to unhitch yourself from the Old Testament. As Andy Stanley would say.

[Lily]

Who's that?

[Josh]

The preacher. We're back to the mumbling.

[Amber]

Well, speaking of list, we have an extra episode on patreon.com ninjasandbutterflies and on YouTube membership where I didn't get to it today, but I'm going to be talking about on Patreon, William Shakespeare.

[Josh]

Oh, that's right. You teased that and you didn't even talk about it today.

[Amber]

I teased it at the beginning.

[Josh]

No, I mean today, before.

[Amber]

Yeah, well, paywall. Well, yeah. This is a very interesting story.

[Josh]

I can't wait.

[Amber]

The hidden identity of William Shakespeare. One of the theories. Because there's a lot out there and

[Andrew]

not the one you've already talked about on the show.

[Amber]

No.

[Andrew]

Okay.

[Amber]

No.

[Josh]

And I have a story about where the Olympics were. Were. Where athletes were drugged and doped by their own government without them knowing.

[Lily]

Oh, no.

[Josh]

We're going to talk about that, too.

[Amber]

Do.

[Josh]

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[Josh]

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[Lily]

You can do it.

[Josh]

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[Josh]

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[Amber]

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[Josh]

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[Andrew]

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[Josh]

You get nothing. Yeah, it's free stuff. What do you. What are you complaining about?

[Amber]

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[Josh]

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[Josh]

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[Andrew]

That tattoo thing was a joke. So sorry I threw that on you.

[Amber]

It's not a joke. He's really.

[Josh]

I mean, what do we. What. We got to throw it out there? What's the. What's the thing selling out the very first day?

[Andrew]

I mean, that kind of happens, though. It's a really dope shirt.

[Josh]

If it happens in one day.

[Amber]

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[Josh]

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[Amber]

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[Josh]

I would say a day.

[Amber]

Okay, a day.

[Andrew]

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[Amber]

I'll do it this Friday.

[Josh]

Okay. Yeah, this Friday, everyone go buy a shirt. And if it gets sold out today, we're gonna have a limited amount.

[Amber]

It's true.

[Josh]

If we get. Fine, we find out. Sold out. I'll get the. I'll get the tattoo problem.

[Andrew]

Patreon and YouTube members are gonna see it first, so they're gonna.

[Amber]

They can get a little head start.

[Josh]

Yeah, it's fine.

[Andrew]

Okay, so by the end of Friday. Okay.

[Amber]

All right, guys, we love you.

[Josh]

Don't let us down.

[Amber]

We'll see you on Patreon YouTube membership.

[Josh]

We love you so much.

[Andrew]

Bye.

[Josh]

Bye.

[Andrew]

Bye. Bye.

[Josh]

Bye, Dolphin.

[Andrew]

What you're about to see.

[Lily]

Wow. May disturb you.

[Andrew]

Dominoes.

[Amber]

If any of you know what these

[Andrew]

multi decade UAP dolphins are.

[Josh]

Aliens.

[Amber]

Bottle nose fish.

[Andrew]

Pigs.

[Lily]

There's a massive police response.

[Josh]

Oh, the dolphin thing.

[Amber]

Dolphin style attack.

[Josh]

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[Amber]

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[Josh]

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