190 - Iran War Heats Up, UFO Stories, & World War 1 w/ Jake Hutcheson

Summary

Ninjas Are Butterflies

Episode 190: Iran War Heats Up, UFO Stories, & World War 1 w/ Jake Hutchinson

Released: April 17, 2026
Host(s): Josh Hooper, Andy DeNoon, Andrew, Lily
Guest: Jake Hutchinson

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Episode Overview

Episode 190 jumps into high-stakes world developments, wild conspiracies, and some good old-fashioned banter. Special guest Jake Hutchinson joins the Ninjas crew for a discussion covering the escalating conflict in Iran, behind-the-scenes military perspectives, wild UFO stories, time slips, and the real reason the US joined World War I. Expect plenty of digressions, humor, and memorable takes as the hosts weave between serious topics and classic podcast antics.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Oyster Tasting & Business Shoutout

[01:48–08:38]

• Jake brings Shark Bite Oysters for the gang to try. The hosts rave about the flavor and discuss the rise of this Florida-based company now expanding nationally.
• Oyster farming, taste differences by region (California oysters lose), and the ins & outs of shucking competitions.
• “Shark Bite oysters are truly a delight.” – Josh (02:27)
• Josh floats the idea of the group visiting the oyster farm for a vlog.

2. Catching Up & Episode Mood

[08:43–15:01]

• Jake shares his “wet January” experience: jumping in water every day for a month.
• The group settles into a lighthearted, upbeat tone despite the heavy news, celebrating their 190th episode.
• “We’re thrilled. Yeah, we’re at a great time. Live in la vida loca.” – Josh (08:07–09:09)
• Listeners are encouraged to comment for a merch giveaway.

3. Song Break: The “Hutch Machine” Theme

[12:11–14:43]

• Andrew and Josh perform a custom rap about Jake, referencing his love of Indian food, long hair, and oyster-diving adventures.
• “He’s on the rise, so don’t disregard. Leaving in the dust. Citizen, send a postcard.” – Andrew (13:15)
• Jake (joking): “I love you so much. I could kiss all of you guys in the mouth right now.” (13:44)

4. “Passing Bills” Running Gag

[15:10–19:03]

• Playful riff on “passing bills” devolves into a string of jokes about forgiving famous “Bills" (Bill Gates, Bill Clinton, Bill Cosby, etc.).
• Hosts roast each other and Lily for her (joking) willingness to “let the bad bills pass.”
• “All those bills, those bad, bad bills.” – Josh (18:24)

5. Artemis 2 Moon Mission

[21:57–27:41]

• The hosts discuss Artemis 2’s recent flyby of the moon’s far side.
• Memorable story about a crater named “Carol” in honor of an astronaut’s late wife.
• Frustration about low-res camera feeds from the moon, given 2026 technology.
  • “It was like it was filmed on a potato… 540p.” – Josh (23:44–23:54)
• Discussion about astronaut multi-skilling and dangers faced in space.
• Exploration of whether the moon rotates and issues with live coverage of the far side.

6. Attending Catholic Mass (Jake’s Story)

[28:17–29:39]

• Jake shares his first time at a Catholic mass, amazed by the ritual, music, and architecture.
• Positive experience, draws favorable comparisons to Baptist tradition.
• “I felt like I was in the movie Mamma Mia—they were singing everything.” – Jake (28:36)

7. Iran War Heats Up: Tweets & Insider Perspectives

[30:31–43:45]

• Trump’s provocative Truth Social posts: explicit language and threats (“A whole civilization will die tonight… just watch.”).
• Jake, reflecting: “That is just… it’s spooky, innit?” (43:27)
• Lily relays direct insights from a high-level special operations contact:
  • Russia, China, and Iran spend huge sums on misinformation.
  • New tactic: Iran focusing on missile quantity over quality to overwhelm defenses.
  • “We don’t have the ability to shoot them all down if they launch all at the same time.” – Lily, paraphrasing source (38:15–38:25)
  • The people of Iran are largely pro-West, but live in fear under a violent regime.
• Critical thinking about social media narratives and the challenge of finding real perspectives.

8. Strait of Hormuz Reporting & Media Misinformation

[44:12–47:44]

• Andy discusses investigative reporting on the Strait of Hormuz; despite news saying it’s shut, traffic via disguised means continues (e.g., Chinese ships painted for evasion).
• Reference to “collapse of diversity of thought” in today’s information ecosystem.

9. Time Travel & High Strangeness in Authority

[48:15–49:54]

• FEMA director Greg Phillips claims he was instantly transported from Alabama to a Waffle House in Georgia (a “time slip” story).
• Skeptical laughter and parallels to similar recent accounts.

10. Would You Rather & Hypotheticals

[57:00–60:11]

• The gang plays "Would You Rather":
  • Mirror that shows your future vs. prophetic message toaster.
  • Amazon rainforest survival vs. a week stuck on a rowboat in the ocean.
• Discussions about paradoxes, changing fate, and the psychological burden of knowing the future.
• Lily: “You imagine how horrible it would be to know who you’re going to become?” (57:44)

11. UFOs, UAPs, and High Weirdness

[82:00–96:24]

• Jake shares a story from the Mill House Podcast: a fisherman in Key West claims repeated UFO sightings and clairvoyant experiences.
• Lily recounts a well-documented Argentine UAP encounter (1995): pilots interacted for 17 minutes with a disc-shaped object, corroborated by reports from other planes and Argentine government records.
  • “This dude was looking at it with his crew for 17 minutes, interacting with it…” – Lily (91:01)
  • Local lore connects these sightings to Pachamama, a regional deity later syncretized into Argentine Catholicism.

12. Pseudo-Science & Energy Theories

[74:06–78:34]

• Jake proposes a theory: if energy is never created or destroyed, ancient humans had more “energy per capita,” explaining extreme feats (e.g., pyramids).
• Open musings on telepathy, mass data storage weight, and evolutionary biology.
  • "If you see your future, is that still the future? Or can you change that future?" – Jake (58:47)

13. Conspiracy: Mount Everest Helicopter Scam

[85:28–88:31]

• Exposé: Everest guides allegedly poisoned climbers to fabricate altitude sickness for insurance scams and helicopter evacuations.
  • “A major investigation has uncovered allegations that some Mt. Everest guides deliberately made climbers ill...” – Josh (85:32)
• The group is scandalized, but also joke about the perils of Everest climbing.

14. The Real Reason for US Entry into World War I

[99:58–107:39]

• Josh recounts the Lusitania sinking (1915): widely believed as a random civilian tragedy, but later revealed to be a British scheme (with Winston Churchill’s possible involvement) to draw the US into WWI.
  • The ship carried ammunition and war supplies, making it a legitimate target per German warnings. The British kept this secret for decades.
  • “So Churchill… the conspiracy is, Churchill made the call, let the ship get hit. That made the US enter World War I.” – Josh (107:13)
• The gang reflects on moral gray zones and the horror of using civilians as political pawns.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Oysters as Childhood:
  “Oh, it literally tastes like my childhood ocean.” – Andy (05:42)

• On World Tension:
  “There’s a lot happening, and I don’t know if this is necessarily a bad—well, it could be bad.” – Josh (15:13)

• Military Insiders:
  “If you could see behind the curtain…the amount of money [Russia/China/Iran] are spending to misinform on social media—it’s astronomical.” – Lily, quoting special ops contact (37:07)

• Trump's War Rhetoric:
  “A whole civilization will die tonight. Never, never to be brought back again… One of the most important moments in the long and complex history of the world.” – Trump, as read by Josh (35:26)

• High Strangeness:
  “He claims he was just driving along and then he just zoned out, and he’s in the parking lot of a Waffle House in Georgia.” – Josh on FEMA director’s time slip (48:54–49:17)

• The Paradoxes of History:
  “Churchill… a week before [the incident], said, ‘It is the most important to attract neutral shipping to our shores in the hope…of embroiling the United States with Germany.’” – Josh (105:58)

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Notable Timestamps (MM:SS & Segment)

• 05:38: “That’s the ocean, baby!” Oyster tasting reaction.
• 13:44: Jake’s exuberant reaction to his custom rap, “I could kiss all you guys in the mouth.”
• 18:28: Looping “bad bills” bit.
• 23:44: Complaints about poor resolution on moon livestreams.
• 29:40: “Catholics know how to do buildings!” – Andrew
• 38:21: Special ops explanation of Iran’s tactics.
• 43:27: “It’s spooky, innit?”—Jake on Trump’s Iran tweet.
• 49:54: Discussion of FEMA director’s time slip.
• 82:45: Key West UFO fisherman story (“clairvoyant” guy).
• 91:12: Lily’s 17-minute UAP pilot encounter retelling.
• 107:06: “And the second explosion was from the ammunition that was on board...” (Lusitania revelation).

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Episode Tone, Style, & Standouts:

• Style:
  Rapid-fire banter, deep-dive rabbit holes, irreverent comedy, and frequent tone shifts from light to heavy.
• Notable vibe:
  Jokes offset anxiety about war and world events. The crew is self-aware about discussing dark subjects, using bits and playful arguments to lighten the mood.

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For Further Exploration

1. Jake Hutchinson socials:
   • IG: @hutch.jake | TT: @jakehutchinson3
2. Referenced True Story:
   • Lusitania, Operation Room 40, and Churchill’s role in WWI history.
3. Special Ops Perspective:
   • Look for reporting on missile tactics and Strait of Hormuz in recent military briefings.

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Episode Takeaway

#NinjasAreButterflies190 delivers a whirlwind tour of current crises, government secrecy, and human strangeness—all with tongue-in-cheek honesty and a heavy dose of skepticism. The tension of world news gets filtered through a crew that believes you can enjoy oysters, question leaders, and wonder if time really did just skip—while stuck at Waffle House.

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Transcript

[Andy]

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[Jake Hutchinson]

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[Andrew]

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[Josh]

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[Lily]

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[Josh]

see you in person. We want to see you there, seeing us.

[Lily]

And now here's the part where I

[Josh]

press the button and stop this Comedy

[Andrew]

Bang Bang ground beefing tour. 2026, June 1 Kimba Live. Get tickets [e-mail] welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Ninjas are Butterflies. We got a special guest with us today, Mr. Jake Hutchinson. And listen, we got wonderful stories that we're gonna dive into today. And at the very end of this episode, we're talking about the real reason World War I started.

[Josh]

Have you guys ever been transported from one place to another? Well, guess what? The FEMA director has, and it's crazy.

[Lily]

And the war in Iran is not what it seems. I spoke to someone directly involved in special operations, and he told us some things that are absolutely crazy. You're gonna want to hear it.

[Jake Hutchinson]

There's UFOs in the Florida Everglade.

[Andy]

And if your civilization still exists, this podcast is brought to you and powered by Sunday. Cool. So watch this or listen.

[Josh]

A little intense.

[Lily]

That was heavy.

[Andy]

Sorry.

[Josh]

All right. What you got there, Andy?

[Andrew]

I got some oysters from Shark Bite Oysters.

[Josh]

Hey, shout out Shark Bite Oysters. Thank you, Jake, for bringing them.

[Andy]

What a treat.

[Jake Hutchinson]

You're welcome. Thank you, Sam, for supplying them, guys. Good.

[Josh]

Do they just. They probably just do Florida. They probably don't do like.

[Jake Hutchinson]

He's not everywhere. He's everywhere.

[Josh]

Really?

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yeah, he's. He's blown up Atlanta, Chicago, dc. He's dang.

[Josh]

Well, you guys heard it here first. Shark Bite oysters. They've gone global.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Global switched up on us. They selling clams now. What are they?

[Josh]

Are they really?

[Jake Hutchinson]

No, not yet, but soon they will be.

[Josh]

Really?

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yeah, they're working on taking over the whole entire, like, shellfish Amelia region. Nice type deal. They're doing big stuff, guys.

[Josh]

Shark Bite oysters are truly a delight.

[Andy]

We were so sad when we were in California and we ordered oysters. We're like, this is going to be a new experience.

[Josh]

Terrible.

[Andy]

Ain't nothing.

[Josh]

There's nothing to.

[Jake Hutchinson]

It was a California oyster. Were that California.

[Josh]

California oysters. It was just like eating nothing. There's no flavor to it.

[Andy]

There's like no salinity to them.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Are you sure it just wasn't a bad batch?

[Josh]

Well, no. My brother had the same experience in California.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Really?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

They were fresh. They just didn't have flavor.

[Jake Hutchinson]

That's weird. These are the most flavorful. They're so salty and good. And he lets me come on the oyster farm sometimes.

[Andrew]

Not.

[Jake Hutchinson]

He lets me go on the oyster farm sometimes. And we eat them straight from the bags and it's just unreal.

[Andy]

Oh my word.

[Andrew]

The baby oysters are so cool.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yeah, they look like quinoa.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Or brown rice. They call them spatial S P A T. That's cute.

[Lily]

That'd be sick. SPAT That's a brand name waiting to happen.

[Jake Hutchinson]

SPAT you're right. We should coin that. He just came out with shirts that say his. His company's called Shark Bite, but they say Bush Light and it's like the mount. I think it's oysters instead of mountains. It's really cool. Did I say that right? Instead of saying Bush Light. Shark Bite. Yeah.

[Andy]

Cool.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I'm getting a moment here.

[Josh]

I guess you got to tell Shark Bite to order shirts from us.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I will. Oh, he can he make them through y'?

[Andrew]

All?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Oh, he should then. Yeah, he might as well.

[Josh]

I mean cuz we're giving him a big shout out.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yeah, you are.

[Andrew]

But stick a do.

[Andy]

But really. Ally just wanted oyster. Oysters are my favorite treat.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Really?

[Andy]

Oh yeah.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Maybe by the time this comes out, there'll be a shark bite tease from Sunday. Cool.

[Andy]

Hey,

[Andrew]

if I didn't have this towel, I would have stabbed myself.

[Josh]

I know that's. The towel is important, man. We're all waiting for you.

[Andrew]

I'm sorry. You guys could talk. You got four people here.

[Josh]

We're all watching. You know the guy. There's a. So there's a restaurant called the Oyster Trough in Eustace.

[Andrew]

Really?

[Josh]

And the guy working there won the world championship for shucking oysters.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Really? Awesome. I didn't know those are thing apparently. What do they hold that kind of deal?

[Josh]

I don't know. Probably Taiwan, right?

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

I really don't know.

[Andy]

It's a really good oyster restaurant though. For real.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Maybe I could go check it out on my way out.

[Andrew]

They get them all from all over though. I had Went there and they had some from Texas, I think we had

[Andy]

one from England one time.

[Josh]

A play oyster. That's what they're called, Oyster.

[Andy]

And it was brined poison. My goodness, it was so good.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I've never had anything but just fresh cracked. I've never had, like, brined or anything else, really.

[Josh]

Have you had a Rockefeller?

[Jake Hutchinson]

I think actually, I have had that with cheese.

[Josh]

Yeah, that's pretty good.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I've had steam as well. Steamed are good.

[Andy]

They're good, but it's like a waste.

[Andrew]

Pass them around.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Take one down.

[Andrew]

Actually clear them out on the bottom.

[Jake Hutchinson]

But just use your finger.

[Andrew]

Yeah, use your finger, tongue, whatever you got to do.

[Andy]

Thank you. Waiter.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Thank you. You didn't cut it off the.

[Andrew]

On the bottom. No, I should have. Sorry. My bad. Get in there. Get in there. Dirty.

[Andy]

Mine's really in there. I'm going to have.

[Josh]

Cheers.

[Andy]

Essence of finger, boys and lady.

[Lily]

Cheers.

[Andrew]

Two long lives. To Shark Bite.

[Andy]

Cheers.

[Lily]

Yeah. That's so good.

[Josh]

That's the ocean, baby.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Got to lick the shell.

[Andrew]

Those are incredible.

[Andy]

Oh, my gosh. I could be at the beach right now. Oh, it literally tastes like my childhood ocean.

[Josh]

Oyster on your nose.

[Andrew]

You've got oyster on your face.

[Andy]

I just got sprayed by the sea.

[Andrew]

That's so good.

[Lily]

And I'm back. I haven't been to the beach in like six months, but I'm back now.

[Andy]

Wow. You should bring Noah. I bet he'll. It's like home for him.

[Lily]

We're fired up for it.

[Andy]

Thank you, Jake. What a treat.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Thank you, Shark bite.

[Andrew]

Thank you.

[Jake Hutchinson]

He sourced these for you guys. It was on the house from him.

[Josh]

Really? On the house.

[Andrew]

He's the man.

[Jake Hutchinson]

He loves you guys. He loves you guys.

[Andrew]

That's awesome. We got to do shirts for him. Yeah.

[Andy]

I want to go hang out and see how they do it.

[Lily]

Let's do it now.

[Andy]

Should bring the children and do, like a homeschooling thing.

[Jake Hutchinson]

They're doing farm Good vlog. He's about to start a farm tour thing where you can go see how it works.

[Lily]

There's your vlog.

[Andrew]

Yeah, that'd be a good vlog.

[Andy]

Supernatural capacity. This guy.

[Jake Hutchinson]

He does. He's the hardest. I. I love being around him because he's like one of the most inspiring business and social person I've. People I've ever met. Great socially great business. A good person all around.

[Josh]

That could be the cut to the vlog. Yeah. Hey, we're going to the Shark Bite oyster farm break.

[Andy]

Are you really?

[Andrew]

We'll have to.

[Josh]

We're gonna do A vlog about it.

[Andy]

We just decided right this second telepathically.

[Andrew]

Yeah. Right after this, we're leaving.

[Andy]

Okay. I'm gonna try.

[Josh]

Hey. Jake is back.

[Andy]

Don't do it. It's empty. I drank all of it.

[Andrew]

Wait for it.

[Josh]

Nailed it.

[Lily]

We don't have the other camera, so.

[Andrew]

Jake is back and we're gonna get in trouble.

[Josh]

Hey.

[Andrew]

Hey. Jakey is back.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yeah. Good morning. Hello.

[Josh]

Good morning.

[Andrew]

I think that's the second time we've done that.

[Jake Hutchinson]

That's probably unplanned. Not the last time either.

[Andrew]

No, sir.

[Josh]

Hey. We didn't stick to our every 10, but we are on a 10th. This is episode 190.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Really?

[Lily]

So.

[Andrew]

Yep.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Awesome.

[Andrew]

It continues.

[Josh]

So just good things are happening today.

[Andrew]

A lot of good things.

[Lily]

A lot of good things are happening.

[Andrew]

No negative press whatsoever.

[Andy]

Good. I'm looking forward to a positive episode.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Me too.

[Andrew]

My daughter braided my beard this morning. Wow.

[Andy]

Good luck for Easter.

[Josh]

That's great.

[Andrew]

Jake.

[Josh]

How you been?

[Jake Hutchinson]

I've been really good. I just learned a wakeboard. I'm coming off a wet January where I jumped in the water every day for a whole month. I loved that series, doing stuff like that.

[Andrew]

The Middle of the Ocean one was my favorite.

[Jake Hutchinson]

That was a good one. That was a brand deal too. So that was really like that.

[Andrew]

That's so fun.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yeah, that was fun. I'm having. I'm having a good life, guys. How about you? I'm doing good, dude.

[Andy]

It's great.

[Andrew]

Yeah, man. We're thrilled. Yeah, we're at a great time.

[Josh]

Live in the vida loca.

[Jake Hutchinson]

What does that mean again?

[Andrew]

It means to win some, to lose some. In Portuguese.

[Lily]

Portuguese, Cantonese.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Tough to speak that language. Yeah.

[Andrew]

Yeah. Imagine if Jake could have came with us to California.

[Josh]

I mean, it would have been.

[Andrew]

I feel like we just need to have Jake as a tag along wherever we go. He doesn't have to do any work. He's just the vibe setter.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Comment down below if you want to

[Andrew]

see that when we go do shark. But you got to come.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Oh, I'll be there. I'll be there for sure. That'd be awesome.

[Andrew]

We'll plan it.

[Josh]

We'll plan it. It's gotta happen, man. Yeah. We got a lot to talk about today.

[Andrew]

We sure do.

[Josh]

A lot to talk about, a lot to cover.

[Andrew]

There's a lot happening.

[Josh]

Lots of stuff came out this morning.

[Andy]

Woof.

[Andrew]

Wild stuff.

[Josh]

Wild stuff.

[Andrew]

Which if people are watching this in the future, which they are. Cause no one's watching this live. There may have been something crazy that happens.

[Josh]

Today, Right.

[Andrew]

World shattering.

[Josh]

We'll talk about that. Altered in a minute. Yeah, it's crazy.

[Andrew]

So who knows?

[Lily]

I got some notes from the source.

[Andrew]

Yeah. Who knows, man? This is.

[Josh]

But you know what people should also do is stop right now. Like, this video, subscribe and comment. And we're choosing a winner every week from the comment section to send a box of Ninjas or Butterflies merchandise to.

[Andrew]

What do you want them to comment right now, Jake?

[Jake Hutchinson]

Comment, comment, comment. And say Florida torta part two. Or just say FTP2 if you can't spell that.

[Andrew]

Yeah, we're setting free swag. A box of Sw. Already said. I sent out two boxes yesterday to some of the past commenters. And so this is your chance. Leave a comment. Leave a couple. Leave a thousand if you want. Yeah, leave a comment. We're gonna pick you at random and we're gonna pin your comment five days after the pods dropped. And.

[Josh]

And I will say your chances of your comment being chosen increases if you share the video as well.

[Andrew]

Oh, yeah. So if you comment that you shared

[Josh]

it, that helps, but you actually have to. Don't lie, because we can read right through that.

[Andrew]

Yeah. God's watching, so don't do that.

[Josh]

He sees you.

[Andy]

No, he sees you.

[Josh]

When you sin, you will go to hell if you lie.

[Andrew]

Once again. Oh, no more.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Good. You guys are good.

[Josh]

Hey, you guys want a song?

[Andy]

Yeah, please.

[Andrew]

You want a song, Jake?

[Jake Hutchinson]

I would love one.

[Andrew]

Okay.

[Jake Hutchinson]

My favorite part of the episode.

[Andrew]

All right, we'll save it for the end then.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Thanks. Fire me right up. Give me oysters, juice me up, and then let me down.

[Josh]

You know, drinking coffee, like, instantly makes you have to poop.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

I feel like that oyster instantly made me had to poop.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Really?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jake Hutchinson]

It's a superfood. It probably just flushed all the badness out of you.

[Josh]

Yeah, probably.

[Andy]

It's got salt in it. And that. That makes you poop. Salt does.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Oh, true. All right, well, cue the ad break.

[Josh]

We'll be right back.

[Andy]

Are you ready?

[Josh]

Oh, yeah, I think I can. This one I can hold on to.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Hold.

[Lily]

But I can't fart.

[Josh]

That's one of those dangerous ones.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Do you know I did that on our way to the Orthodox church in California.

[Andrew]

What?

[Josh]

It was an hour and a half drive.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And we were about halfway. And I'm like, my stomach hurts. I'm like, surely this is just a fart.

[Andy]

And just. And you.

[Andrew]

Oh, you didn't tell me this.

[Josh]

It didn't penetrate the pants, but it got, like, to where turtle head. It was right there. I said, oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh.

[Andrew]

Dude, that.

[Josh]

Couldn't find a gas station. Panicking. Found one, went in there.

[Andrew]

Dude, all of it. Had to come out of you before you went to the church, man.

[Josh]

Purged myself something new.

[Andrew]

Yeah, dude. They would have smelt it on you for sure, dude.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Oh, gosh.

[Andrew]

Ooh, look at that. What is that you got there?

[Lily]

All right.

[Josh]

I'm really hoping this works.

[Andrew]

You got it. Just remember to read.

[Josh]

Oh, no, no.

[Andrew]

What are these words?

[Josh]

Oh, crap.

[Andrew]

Google Translate.

[Josh]

All right, let's do it.

[Andrew]

He's back on the show and you know what that means Gotta make way for the hutch machine Takes his shirt off and blurs the nips Eat an Indian and you know he tips you know this boy loves tiki masala Hire this boy if you've been taking more dollars Dive in the water to get them oysters diving in the water Cuz he's gotta get moisture Got long hair looking like Tarzan his goal so high he needs not can find his stuff on Jake Paul story if you don't follow him then you bore me it's

[Josh]

good for ya, it's good for ya.

[Andrew]

What? It's good for ya Just trust me it's good, good for ya.

[Josh]

Sittin in a tree and reading a book when you see the poster let him cook Go into the Natty and he hit 100k world's father athlete that's the way Got no eyebrows but he's raising them Going on trails and he's blazing them Cranking the stats on his

[Andrew]

JPD Inviting all the whites for a

[Josh]

new cuisine he's on the rise so don't disregard leaving in the dust citizen

[Andrew]

send a postcard so jump in the

[Josh]

water, hug your bruh smile be kind

[Andrew]

it's good for ya, it's good for ya, it's good for ya, it's good for ya Just trust me it's good

[Josh]

for ya, it's good for ya.

[Andrew]

What? It's good for ya. Say it again. It's good for ya Just trust me, it's good for ya. Wow.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Oh my gosh. I love you so much. I can kiss all of you guys in the mouth right now.

[Andrew]

Wow.

[Jake Hutchinson]

That was amazing. I love that.

[Andy]

Wow.

[Andrew]

One line.

[Josh]

One line.

[Andrew]

Yeah. What was the line? You messed up. That was a good one. The. The strongest fast fat leet.

[Josh]

Yeah. Go into the Natty and he hit 100k. World strongest fat leet. That's the way.

[Jake Hutchinson]

That was crazy. That was so specific. I love that. That's everything I've ever done in my life, I think.

[Andrew]

Could I literally scroll through your Instagram? I was trying to think of, like, every little tiny thing, and as soon as we found the, I was like, I got a rhyme. Tiki masala. That's too much. That's too fun of a rhyme to not. What? Got to have something.

[Jake Hutchinson]

What was the rhyme?

[Andrew]

This boy loves tiki masala. Hire this boy if you're seeking more $.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I like that. I like the part about Narcan. He's so high. He needs.

[Andrew]

He looks like Tarzan, but I'm like, what rhymes with Tarzan?

[Jake Hutchinson]

That was awesome. I love that you guys do that. Thank you so much. Can't wait to kiss you guys.

[Josh]

I can't wait either.

[Andrew]

Patreon Paywall.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Wow.

[Andy]

Very good. And, Josh, you did so good.

[Josh]

Hey, thanks.

[Andy]

Good job reading.

[Andrew]

It was like a little biz. Markie and Beastie Boys.

[Jake Hutchinson]

That's what I thought. Beastie Boys.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jake Hutchinson]

That was sick. Brass monkey.

[Andy]

That's what I thought.

[Josh]

Unfortunately.

[Andy]

Oh, gosh.

[Josh]

We have a beast of a question, boys.

[Andy]

And girl.

[Josh]

And girl.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Don't forget.

[Josh]

There's a lot happening, and I don't know if this is necessarily a bad. Well, it could be bad. I don't know.

[Andrew]

No, let's try to keep it light.

[Josh]

I think the one person that can truly give us wisdom into this is Lily.

[Andy]

Oh, gosh.

[Andrew]

Yeah, I think so. I think we have a guy, a bunch of guys here, and I think as we grow up in America, as gentlemen, we, yes, we are valuable, but

[Josh]

I think we as white males. Half white male.

[Andrew]

Yes. I think there are viewpoints that we grow up with that are maybe not as valuable as a female.

[Josh]

I agree.

[Andrew]

And I think we're extremely lucky, and we should be grateful that we have a woman like Lily on this pod that can bring some clarity to a lot of the subjects that we're facing today.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Thank you, Andy.

[Josh]

So today's question sitting by a viewer. Hey, Lil, should we pass bills? You know, like, pass bills, like, in order for society to move on, maybe even thrive, should we pass those bills to help?

[Andrew]

Should we pass those bills?

[Josh]

Yeah, should we pass those bills?

[Andy]

Those bills, the ones that help?

[Josh]

Yeah, that would help maybe. Maybe help people move on.

[Andy]

Oh, from what?

[Josh]

Just thrive in society.

[Andrew]

It's a yes or no, too. Yeah, you got this little.

[Andy]

Yeah. Did you order lunch, by the way?

[Andrew]

Wow, Josh, I don't think I could eat lunch right now.

[Josh]

Now I feel sick.

[Andrew]

I just lost my appetite.

[Andy]

Did someone answer me? And if they ordered lunch, Lil,

[Lily]

you

[Josh]

want to pass bills? We should pass bills.

[Andrew]

You want to give bills a pass?

[Josh]

You want to give bills a pass?

[Andy]

Oh, I see where this is.

[Josh]

Bill Gates.

[Andrew]

You want to give him a pass?

[Lily]

Bill Clinton.

[Andy]

Pass.

[Andrew]

You'd like to give Bill Clinton a pass?

[Andy]

I thought you were saying Bill Gates.

[Andrew]

The bills.

[Josh]

The bills. Will. I don't know, Jake. Can you think of another bill?

[Jake Hutchinson]

Buffalo.

[Andrew]

Buffalo Bill from Silence of the Lambs.

[Andy]

That's a bad guy.

[Andrew]

It's not a true story.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Josh]

How about Bill Cosby?

[Andrew]

Lily.

[Josh]

Yeah, let's just give them the pass. Just forgive them of what they did.

[Andrew]

Yep.

[Josh]

Get out a free jail card. Get it. Here you go. Bill, bill, bill, bill. Pass along, pass along.

[Andrew]

All good. I bet you want all the good bills to pass away, don't you?

[Josh]

Yeah, I bet you do.

[Andrew]

Gotta give them a pass. We apologize to all the good bills out there.

[Josh]

There's a lot of really good bills out there.

[Andrew]

A hundred percent.

[Josh]

My brother's father in law's named Bill and he's an amazing man.

[Andrew]

My grandpa's name was Bill. But you say give all the bad bills a pass.

[Andy]

You did order lunch. Good boy.

[Josh]

I don't know why you're smiling.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I see my lunch. I see my lunch.

[Andrew]

Thank you, Miss Elena. But, Lil, I don't think you deserve lunch.

[Andy]

That's not nice.

[Andrew]

I don't think we're going to be giving you lunch. Elena, you could throw Lily's lunch in the trash. Please.

[Andy]

I'm. Leave it there.

[Josh]

Go ahead and throw hers in the trash.

[Andy]

No, no, you can leave it. It's fine.

[Andrew]

Give her a round of applause for Elena, everybody.

[Josh]

Thank you, Elena.

[Andrew]

Thank you, Elena.

[Andy]

Good job. Thank you.

[Josh]

How dare you, Lily.

[Andrew]

What is wrong with you?

[Josh]

What is wrong with you? All those bills, those bad bills, those bad, bad bills.

[Andrew]

Bad, bad bills, Jake.

[Josh]

I mean, what are your thoughts on this?

[Jake Hutchinson]

I don't like bad bills. I try to stop them. And I don't know if we all do, but I know I'd do my part if I can.

[Josh]

Thank you, Jake. Thank you, Jake.

[Andrew]

Fine.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I don't even need applause. Yeah, just do it because it's right.

[Andrew]

Absolutely. Well, you know what? The fact that you don't accept that.

[Josh]

Here you go, Jake. Here you go, Jake.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Oh, thanks.

[Lily]

I do like it.

[Josh]

Shame.

[Andrew]

Ooh, shame.

[Josh]

Lily, apologize to the good bills. Doesn't matter anymore.

[Andrew]

Deaf ears.

[Josh]

Deaf ears. They're falling on deaf ears. The bills. The good bills stop listening. And the bad bills are now tuning in saying, yes, thank you, Lily.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Now I have. Now I have more reason to do more bad things.

[Josh]

I guess you guys heard of your first. Lily just wants badness to be reintroduced into this world. Bill Gates, Bill Clint. Buffalo Bill from Songs of the Lambs. Bill Cosby. There's a guy, apparently his name is Bloody Bill Anderson, a Confederate soldier who was notorious for doing really bad things.

[Andrew]

Yeah, a lot of really bad. Guerrilla war.

[Josh]

You get a pass, apparently, from Lily.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Welcome to the show. Ninjas are butterflies.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Did I say ninja?

[Josh]

I meant butterfly. The butterfly is no doubt one of God's mysteries.

[Andrew]

You learn martial arts. Ninja.

[Josh]

This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp.

[Andrew]

Quick reality check, folks. Money stress hits harder than people expect.

[Josh]

Yeah, and it's not just numbers.

[Andrew]

It messes with your head, your sleep, your relationships. A lot of people are dealing with it right now.

[Josh]

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[Andrew]

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[Josh]

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[Andrew]

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[Josh]

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[Josh]

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[Josh]

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[Andrew]

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[Josh]

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[Andrew]

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[Josh]

That's better. H E L p.com/ninjas.

[Andy]

I'm just grateful that we didn't have a bait and switch from Jake this time.

[Jake Hutchinson]

A bait and switch? When have we done that?

[Andy]

You pretend that you're on my team, and then you turn on my team.

[Josh]

Oh, I don't do that.

[Jake Hutchinson]

The only time I is when I'm fishing. I don't bait and switch.

[Josh]

Yeah, he does.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I don't recall that. There's no evidence or anything how you're

[Andrew]

trying to gaslight him. This is weird.

[Andy]

Oh, my gosh.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Tendency of Bill with your headphones.

[Josh]

You don't want to hear.

[Andy]

My headphones are so loud. And you guys were yelling at me the whole time.

[Andrew]

You could just ask. You just asked them.

[Jake Hutchinson]

She turned out I could hear you.

[Lily]

Still, we couldn't hear you.

[Andrew]

I'm so glad you went with the how dare you? Because that's exactly where I was going to. As soon as she closed the door.

[Jake Hutchinson]

That was funny. Guys are good at your job.

[Andy]

Thanks for ordering lunch, Josh. I was really hungry.

[Josh]

You're welcome.

[Andrew]

Thank you, Josh.

[Josh]

Welcome.

[Andrew]

Can't eat till later.

[Josh]

Let's get into it, guys.

[Andrew]

Let's dive in.

[Josh]

Artemis 2.

[Lily]

Okay.

[Andrew]

Big launch.

[Josh]

Big launch.

[Andrew]

Pretty cool.

[Josh]

They went on the dark side of the moon yesterday.

[Andrew]

Yep.

[Andy]

Did you hear what they said?

[Josh]

One small step for man.

[Andy]

No. Oh, amaze, amaze, amaze.

[Josh]

Oh, I did.

[Andrew]

They really? Oh, man. It's space cannon.

[Josh]

Now I know Lily's like, yesterday because we were watching it live on Netflix.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

She's like, I bet you this all the flat Earthers are so mad because, like. Like this. To them, it's nothing.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

They're like, this is all fake. This is all fake.

[Andrew]

In the world of A.I.

[Lily]

come on, guys.

[Josh]

Open your eyes, sheeple. Something that was really sweet when they were flying around and there's some unnamed craters or never before seen craters on the moon, so they got to name them. One of them they named Integrity, which is like, okay, that's the name of their vessel or whatever.

[Andy]

Oh.

[Josh]

But one of them, the astronaut, they named it Carol after his wife that passed.

[Andrew]

Oh.

[Josh]

And it was like one of the brightest craters on the moon. And they're all crying and hugging.

[Andrew]

Dang.

[Josh]

Very sweet. Too bad it's all fake.

[Andrew]

Too bad it means nothing.

[Andy]

What are you talking about?

[Josh]

I don't know.

[Lily]

Moon. Oh, I don't mean the legend to cry or to. To despair story. But like, a crater is bright.

[Josh]

It was because it was like, I don't know, just the sun reflecting off of it. I'll show you a picture.

[Lily]

Okay.

[Andrew]

Maybe it was tall depth or something.

[Josh]

Or like this, Like a shallow one. It was super vibrant.

[Lily]

I got you.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Oh, that's special.

[Andrew]

Yeah. The LEDs underneath were brighter than the other one.

[Josh]

The alien lights. Yeah. Yeah.

[Andrew]

That's super cool. That's super cool.

[Josh]

Yeah, it was really cool.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

But I will say it's 2026. Why couldn't they throw like an 8k camera on that thing?

[Andrew]

This is what's blowing my mind.

[Josh]

They.

[Andrew]

We. We were watching the footage and the camera that's outside the shuttle that's pointed at the moon. This is. It's like was filmed on a potato.

[Josh]

Like 540p.

[Andrew]

Yes. And it's like we. How is that possible?

[Josh]

I guess cuz it's a really far away to transmission. But you.

[Andrew]

But you could see.

[Lily]

I mean we did a live transmission in the 60s.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Pretty high quality for that was like 1080.

[Lily]

Where do satellites exist?

[Josh]

Where do they exist?

[Lily]

Like, cuz you know, like if we're like. Yeah, well when. So how much further than that are they?

[Josh]

Way further.

[Lily]

Way further.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

That's what. I don't know.

[Andrew]

Yeah, it's weird, man. It's very.

[Josh]

Wish I could see your mouth.

[Lily]

Yeah, there's a lot of stuff that's not where it used to be. And I'm realizing the problems as we get going. It's driving me crazy.

[Andy]

Like what?

[Lily]

Just like I can't see Josh at all.

[Andy]

Oh, you miss him.

[Lily]

This thing broke. So I'm holding this and I'm like. I feel trapped holding a mic. I don't know how you guys do it on the lives.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I can hold it for you. So, yeah.

[Josh]

Artemis 2, that's dope. Very cool. Yeah, those guys seem very nice.

[Andrew]

I mean, I'm excited to see the footage when they come back if it get like be processed or something. Because even the camera on the outside of the shuttle was showing the moon, but it also was showing the shuttle like right next to it. And it was still like crazy blurry.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

So it's like.

[Josh]

I have a question. So it was Apollo 13 that circled the moon, I believe.

[Lily]

Okay.

[Andrew]

Had the explosion, everything.

[Josh]

Well, because they said, Artemis, they saw the part of the moon that no human has ever seen before. But what about Apollo 13? Maybe it was in a different rotation or something.

[Andrew]

I don't know. I don't know how that works.

[Andy]

Except for the moon doesn't rotate, I guess.

[Josh]

No, it doesn't.

[Andy]

How do you know that?

[Josh]

Science.

[Andrew]

It's just science stuff.

[Andy]

Lil, you just said the moon was rotating. So you just learned this right now?

[Andrew]

I didn't know like what I was. I didn't know if like what the way we projected when we came off. I don't know how it works.

[Jake Hutchinson]

You're projecting.

[Andrew]

I'm projecting? I'm projecting right now because I'm scared and I don't know science. Okay. I'm afraid right now.

[Andy]

Josh was like. They were like, the signal is gonna go out when we go around this part of the moon. And I'm like, is the signals not going out?

[Jake Hutchinson]

Did it go out?

[Josh]

Yeah, they just.

[Andy]

They Just shut it off.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Why didn't they just have, like, a starlight?

[Andy]

Because there's an amusement park back.

[Andrew]

There's an amusement park and they don't. And it's for rich people and it's not for us and we're not invited, and I hate it.

[Andy]

They don't want us to see it. The signal went out. For what?

[Andrew]

What kind of ride would go on the moon? What kind of amusement park? What's the theme?

[Josh]

I mean. Dollywood.

[Andrew]

Dollywood to the sequel. Yeah.

[Andy]

What if there was one time a roller coaster that connected from the moon to Earth?

[Jake Hutchinson]

That'd be crazy. Like, Space big mountain.

[Josh]

Space big mountain.

[Andrew]

Space big mountain.

[Josh]

All right, let's get into the scary stuff.

[Andy]

I don't want to.

[Andrew]

Is there anything about Artemis still that we need to talk about? When they coming back?

[Josh]

A couple days. Well, when this comes out, they've landed.

[Andrew]

There's already been some hijinks that are happening. Right? Like, things are going wrong.

[Josh]

They fixed it, which is a crazy

[Andrew]

thing for it to go out.

[Josh]

The lady fixed it on the.

[Andrew]

Hey, maybe it is 2026.

[Josh]

What do you want?

[Jake Hutchinson]

That's a good thing.

[Andy]

I know. It's a great thing.

[Josh]

The heat went out for a little bit, which is terrifying. They're like, it's really cold in here.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Oh, they could have just froze to death.

[Andrew]

Right? Could you imagine?

[Jake Hutchinson]

No.

[Andrew]

How scary is that?

[Josh]

So scary.

[Andrew]

No way.

[Jake Hutchinson]

What's the heating system like on one of those deals? So what are they, like, multipurpose people? That astronauts. Also plumbers and H vac techs.

[Josh]

They can like, do everything, really? Basically everything. Every component in there they know how to work with.

[Jake Hutchinson]

So these guys are literally AI proof. Like, they're never getting a job taken. They can just become a plumber or

[Josh]

they can do whatever they want.

[Jake Hutchinson]

That's crazy.

[Josh]

They can fly to the moon. Really?

[Andrew]

Imagine coming back, like, to see that from being an astronaut, and then you become a plumber, and it's just like, used to be a fricking astronaut. Now I have to flip and fix your drain.

[Josh]

Out of this world plumbing.

[Andy]

Have you ever had, like, someone come over to help repair something and they give you a story like that where it's like, you know, I used to fix the toilets on the moon. No, you didn't. Okay, sure.

[Josh]

But, you know, I once fixed Jimmy Kata's toilet. Really?

[Andrew]

Cool. Could you hurry up then?

[Josh]

He loved tiki masala, I'll just tell you that.

[Andrew]

Too much.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Good one.

[Josh]

Oh, but it was cool.

[Andrew]

I mean, watching it was super fun.

[Andy]

They Were talking about creation.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Yeah. The guy's a big believer in.

[Jake Hutchinson]

He heard about that.

[Andy]

It's pretty cool.

[Andrew]

It's very fun.

[Josh]

Very fun.

[Andrew]

Speaking of being a believer, I heard you went to Catholic mass on Easter. How was that? Was that your first time ever?

[Jake Hutchinson]

It was my first time ever at a Catholic mass or a Catholic anything, really, except I went to a Catholic wedding one time. That was kind of wild.

[Andrew]

Yeah, you got, like. Got a good workout in, huh? Up, down. Up down. Up down.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yeah. Yeah, I did, actually. A lot of up and down.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Every time anyone entered a pew, they would go down first and they would come up. And this one, I don't know if this is normal. I felt like. I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but I felt like I was like in the movie Mamma Mia. They were singing everything.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Like, they would pray and usually, like, a Baptist preacher would just say it.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Jake Hutchinson]

This guy was singing it.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jake Hutchinson]

They sung. He sung Most Blessed be the Lord. It was wild. It was cool, though. I liked it a lot. Nice people. Someone recognized me there. They DM me after, like, hey, were

[Andrew]

you at Catholic mass this morning?

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yeah. They're like, I was sitting next to you, and I knew I recognized you from somewhere. And then I got in my car and I just yelled out, indian buffet. My family was like, I think it's closed today.

[Andy]

So you went with your parents?

[Jake Hutchinson]

I went with some other fellows and. Near Pensacola.

[Andy]

Oh, very cool.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yeah, it was awesome.

[Andrew]

That's awesome. Cool building. Cool church.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Beautiful building. I was enamored with it. I was looking around and I was like, dang, the architecture, it was, like, very circular. A lot of good stained glass. It was cool. Good angles.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I liked it.

[Andrew]

Catholics know how to do buildings.

[Josh]

They do.

[Andrew]

Hey, I've always said that.

[Josh]

I got that down.

[Lily]

They got that down.

[Andrew]

Yeah. I think they could use some work on. But overall, the buildings, the architecture is pretty good. Yeah. Yeah.

[Josh]

Yeah, I would say so. I would say so. It looks like you're about to do slam poetry or something.

[Lily]

I'm just waiting for the Catholic Church. I'm just getting my notes.

[Josh]

More like the Catholic hurts. Oh, it doesn't. I don't. I don't agree with the statement I just made. Some Catholics have hurt people.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

I'm sure I've seen a Catholic.

[Josh]

I'm just trying. That's only a rhyme I could do. I probably.

[Andy]

I think you took that from 22 Jump street too.

[Josh]

Oh, yeah.

[Andy]

Cynthia, you're dead.

[Josh]

You're dead. All Right. Let's get into it.

[Andrew]

Let's dive in, folks.

[Josh]

We'll get into some anxiety stuff and then pull back a little bit. Yeah, and then get back in.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And then pull back up.

[Lily]

And then I really get back.

[Andy]

Okay, enough.

[Josh]

We had some tweets come out.

[Andy]

Oh, gosh.

[Andrew]

Oh, this one's rough.

[Andy]

Oh, God.

[Josh]

We're getting political, folks.

[Andy]

No.

[Lily]

Oh,

[Josh]

not trying to. Not trying to get political, but these are crazy.

[Andy]

Stay police.

[Andrew]

This is the time we live in.

[Josh]

This is the time we live in, everybody.

[Andy]

Be ambiguous, be vague.

[Andrew]

When the President speaks, we listen.

[Josh]

When the President speaks, we listen because he's the President of our country. We all know at this point what he said on Easter. Do you know what he said on Easter?

[Jake Hutchinson]

No.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I don't know anything about anything. I want to make that very clear. I know nothing about nothing. I just try to be a good guy and do good things.

[Lily]

Jake has thoughts on Israel. He's going to share them in a second.

[Andrew]

Never been there. Never heard of it.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Josh]

What is that?

[Andy]

Tell him what he really said and Andrew can beep it.

[Andrew]

Huh?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Is it bad?

[Andy]

Awful.

[Josh]

Well, on Easter. On Easter Day.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I read the one this morning. I did not like. Okay, that didn't sound good.

[Josh]

We're gonna. Yeah, we're gonna talk about that one.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Okay.

[Andy]

I'm sick to my stomach.

[Josh]

Lily doesn't know what it is because the oyster.

[Andy]

The oyster was great.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Andy]

On Easter.

[Josh]

I am, too, on Easter. President Trump did on truth. Social Tuesday will be power plant day, the bridge day. All wrapped up in one. In Iran. There will be nothing like it. Open the effing straight, you crazy. B word or B word? Bass. Like a bass?

[Lily]

Mustard.

[Andrew]

Yeah, the other B word.

[Andy]

Am I having a stroke? What are you guys talking about?

[Josh]

Just bleep it.

[Andrew]

Oh, just bleep it.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I didn't follow.

[Andy]

Did. You said bass and mustard. Like, I was just.

[Lily]

Stay with.

[Andrew]

I was about to say Austin Powers.

[Andy]

I thought you were going to say

[Jake Hutchinson]

I did, too.

[Josh]

Goodness gracious. Or kind of funny.

[Lily]

I feel like you need to know I edit this podcast in 3x, so the probability of something getting missed is pretty high.

[Josh]

Let me finish the thing.

[Andy]

Okay, go ahead.

[Josh]

Golly, Zip it. Jake hasn't heard this one.

[Andy]

All right, good.

[Josh]

There'll be nothing like it. I'll just go back. There'll be nothing like it. Open the effing straight, you crazy be or you'll be living in hell. Just watch. Praise be to Allah. President Donald J. Trump.

[Jake Hutchinson]

That's crazy that the President would tweet that.

[Josh]

Yes, the F word. Yeah.

[Jake Hutchinson]

In a presidential statement on Easter.

[Josh]

On Easter morning.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Oh, not nice.

[Lily]

That's not nice.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I don't know what's going on, but I know Iranian people and I love them and they have great food and I love them. I don't know what's going on. Have no idea. But I saw the movie when the, I think 11 or 46Americans got trapped in the embassy.

[Josh]

Oh yeah.

[Jake Hutchinson]

When the riots happened.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I don't know. I know, I know that it used to be an unreal country. Beautiful people, beautiful country. I'm not, I. I think it's gotten over. Not as good anymore. I don't know what's happening now.

[Josh]

But yeah, we know, we know a person from Iran and they're lovely. They're. They're great.

[Andy]

Yeah. You knew a person from Iran.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Andrew]

She.

[Josh]

What is your deal

[Andy]

anyway? We did, yeah. And she talked about to the same thing. Like after the 70s it was like a completely different country.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Like women can't do anything. Yeah, yeah. It sounded terrible, but it was very

[Andy]

like in a sense kind of like western prior to that.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yeah.

[Andy]

And very progressive.

[Andrew]

Was that Argo you watched?

[Jake Hutchinson]

I think so.

[Andrew]

Ben Affleck movie?

[Jake Hutchinson]

I don't know. Was that, that's the one about it, right?

[Andy]

No, no, that wasn't it. We watched it too.

[Andrew]

It was the embassy when they have to like stuck in the memorize like their identities and they had a sneak peek.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yeah, identities. And they went to like the European house or the British. Yeah, yeah. Really good movie.

[Andrew]

Very good.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Very like taught you stuff. I don't know. Good.

[Josh]

Okay, so another truth social came out today from President Trump.

[Andy]

Oh gosh.

[Josh]

So you guys know we film a week ahead, so there could be something that happens tonight. Or not.

[Andrew]

What's the date today? No, the seventh.

[Josh]

The seventh. This is what he said as of 8:00 clock this morning. A whole civilization will die tonight. Never, never to be brought back again. I don't want that to happen, but it probably will. However, now that we have complete and total regime change where different, smarter and less radicalized minds prevail, maybe something revolutionary wonderful can happen. Who knows? We will find out tonight. One of the most important moments in long. One of the most important moments in the long and complex history of the world. 47 years of exhortation. Ex extra cheese. How you say that?

[Andy]

Exhortation.

[Josh]

No, extortion.

[Andy]

Oh.

[Josh]

Corruption and death will finally end. God bless the great people of Iran.

[Andy]

What that was so confusing.

[Andrew]

A whole civilization will die is he says Tonight.

[Andy]

Tonight.

[Andrew]

Is that not the craziest thing?

[Andy]

I got goosebumps.

[Andrew]

And then he literally follows it up with, like, probably, what are you.

[Josh]

Probably. We don't know.

[Andrew]

Who should know?

[Josh]

I love.

[Andrew]

I am.

[Lily]

You are.

[Andy]

What is he calling for opening the Straight of Hormuz or.

[Josh]

Well, this is where Andrew talked to somebody that's pretty high up, right?

[Andrew]

Yep.

[Josh]

In the military.

[Lily]

Yeah. He told me I could refer to him as a close friend at a high level in special operations with. I'm just reading it because I don't want to say it wrong. 40 years of experience in that theater of war.

[Andrew]

It was Ted Cruz, guys.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Ted Cruz.

[Andy]

It's nice.

[Lily]

Iran, Afghanistan, all those areas. He directly involved with a lot of conflicts. And I asked him personally, I was like, I want people to know that this isn't, like, a random person who's like, you know, on the sidelines of this stuff. He was like, I personally. I personally have lost teammates. He said, I've had to go to wives and let them know that their husbands, that fathers have passed away. And he said, a close friend of mine, I was on the radio with him when they passed because of this conflict.

[Andy]

So is he out there right now?

[Lily]

He's still involved.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Lily]

That's about all I can say. But if you, like, want to know from someone in special operations at a high level who's, like, behind the curtain, seeing classified stuff, didn't reveal classified intel to me, but is like, you know, like, he let me ask him a bunch of questions. I was just like, I want. And this is a person I respect. I was like, I want your opinion, because I know social media is throwing us every which way.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

And this is a little. Almost countered the direction that our podcast has typically gone. But I'm just sharing with him, with you guys what he shared directly with me. He said, if you could see behind the curtain and see the dollars and the initiatives that Russia and China and Iran are spending to misinform on social media. He said, it's astronomical the amount of money they're spending. And I was like, well, tell me about the conflict going on right now. Like, what are your thoughts? And I was like, I'm sure you saw the tweet. And he was like, it's absolutely necessary. I was like, this is a believer. Like, I was like, unpack that for me. And he said definitively, they have a new tactic. We're no longer. Nuclear weapons was always like the buzzword. Like, that's what they're after. That's what they're trying to do. And he said they control the global economy by oil through that strait. He said, but they've begun the intel is that they've begun a new tactic where they're no longer acquiring nuclear, but they figured the best way to hit their targets is by number, not by quality or the quality of the particular bomb.

[Andy]

So a bunch of missiles.

[Lily]

He said, the problem is they began acquiring so many that we don't have the ability to shoot them out of the sky if they launch them all at the same time. He said, that's not just for Israel. He said, that's for our European allies. And they had plans to go intercontinental and hit us. And he said if we didn't act now, they were going to get there. Oh, that was his, like, straight to me from a friend.

[Josh]

Iran or Iran? China, Russia, initiative, Iran.

[Andy]

But they're all.

[Lily]

But they're all using social media campaigns. And I was like, well, like, I was like, you know, everything's coming out recently with the list and ties with Israel. And this is. You know, people are saying, this is Israel's war. Why are we.

[Josh]

These are nuclear warheads that they're shooting or.

[Lily]

No, no, they figured out they could get, like, quit going after the big missile, go after a bunch of them that could still cause harm, but you send tons and tons and tons of them. They don't all get shot down. That. That's their new tactic. And they began to try to acquire these through the strait, definitively. So they locked it down. They were trying to hold it down. They were trying to acquire missiles. So we were like, you can't do that. And that's one of the particular reasons we're going in and doing that. Which is heavy.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Which is insanely heavy. The tweet. I hate the language that Trump used in his tweet, where he's like, a civilization's gonna die, die. But then also in the same tweets, like, God bless the people of Iran, it's like, well, what are you saying? Like, maybe.

[Andrew]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Lily]

I don't know.

[Andy]

Civilization being the regime. Yeah. I don't know.

[Lily]

And so I asked, I asked my friend, I said, you, as somebody who spent years, like, in this particular region, like, tell me about the interactions that you've had with the people. He's like, the people of Iran, the Middle east, the different places he's been, he was like, they're amazing people. And he said, no one. The media never reports on it. He said, but no one understands how much they appreciate us there. He was like, we are always met with just overwhelming. Thanks. He's like, the reason it's escalating so far is he said in Iran right now, the current regime, anyone who even kind of opposes is being dragged out in the street and hung.

[Andy]

Oh, my goodness gracious.

[Lily]

And so he's like. He said, the reason you have to escalate is because they don't care. He was like, they will wipe out their entire. Because it's a holy war and to be. What's. What's the word? Martyrdom. He was like, to them, like, that's the end. He was like, so if you don't wipe out that regime, they will slowly do that to their entire people.

[Josh]

Dang. That's intense.

[Lily]

That's heavy. But I was like, I. You can read social media all day long. I was like, I have a friend who's close to it. Let me. And this is his opinion. I haven't seen any of this. Yeah. But I respect the heck out of this individual and that that was his 2 cents on what's going on and kind of the importance of. Or the necessity that it happens. He was like, we were under imminent threat.

[Josh]

Dang. Well, then that makes you wonder what Joe Kent is all about then. Did you ask him that?

[Lily]

No. I mean, I literally was like, okay, that tweet happened. We're probably going to talk about it today. I was like, let me just see if I can get a conversation with.

[Josh]

You should talk to him after too. Yeah, ask him.

[Andy]

Yeah. I mean, I would be curious too, if, like, if there is a desire to motivate.

[Josh]

Dude, what if, like, oh, man. What if there's just like this right wing or not just like, how are we saying the millions and billions of dollars where that China, Russia and Iran are paying for these social media campaigns?

[Lily]

Yep.

[Josh]

What if they have influence over people that we would in turn, like, respect for their opinion?

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Lily]

That's a little spooky.

[Andrew]

Yep, very.

[Lily]

He said, yeah. He talked to someone else close to him that was like kind of echoing social media. And he was like, I had to let them know too. He's like, he's like, as a. Who's been there, who's seen what the regime does to its own people, and who's been thanked by the people of Iran for what we're doing?

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

He was like, I'm telling you they want us there. And I'm telling you what we're doing is helping them.

[Andy]

That's. That's anybody that you talk to also. I mean, my cousin was in Afghanistan and I. He criticizes what we were doing out there in Afghanistan. But Keegan's dad, he's like, we were absolutely essential. Like, the things that were happening to these people were atrocious.

[Josh]

That's what's a bummer. And it was like, this whole situation, it's so noisy on both sides and so confusing, and it's like. But it's scary. It's like, it's such a confusing, scary. I mean, what Trump said, that's a

[Lily]

terrifying thing to say. And I do want to say this person said. He was like, I don't like how things are always said. And he was like, the nature of war is, like, on both sides. And every. He's like, Israel, America, wherever. He was like, I don't like how things are said and done quite often. He was like, but when you're dealing with war, so often there is no good option.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yeah.

[Lily]

He was like, but he believes that.

[Andy]

Well, you could talk like. Like a human being. I mean, this guy needs, like, he needs therapy.

[Josh]

Jake, what do you think of war?

[Andrew]

What is it good for?

[Jake Hutchinson]

I read that tweet this morning. I was like, oh, my gosh. That is just.

[Josh]

It's spooky in it.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I was not. Not good.

[Josh]

No.

[Lily]

I forgot to say this, too. He was saying, this isn't a new thing with Iran. He was like, all the conflicts that we've been in, when the last 47 years. He was like, as different heads of terror have popped up, he said, behind the, like, confidential reports. Like, you can track the confidential reports. I said that terribly. But you can track the money the

[Josh]

funding is from Iran, even the money

[Lily]

we've sent them for their oil. And apparently different presidencies have given them the chance to be at the table. Like, let's be civil.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

And every time, typically, money is. Used to be like, all right, here's some money. Let's do this kindly. And they'll immediately take that and fund that into terror somewhere.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

And he's like, so no matter what we've done to try to include them, they end up spinning on.

[Andy]

It was Biden that gave them something like $6 billion. What was that?

[Josh]

I don't know.

[Andy]

And basically they ended up finding out, and I might be misquoting, but that that money funded the attack on October 7th. Basically, yeah.

[Lily]

He said, pretty much when terror pops up, they're somehow connected to it.

[Josh]

That's not good.

[Lily]

Time and time again, spooky.

[Andy]

I am. My favorite independent journalist on TikTok is pro what we're doing. He was Commenting and it's. It's kind of like multifaceted. His. His commentary. But he was talking about the moves. Miles. No, hold on, let me pull it up. Davis. Davis Jones. He's amazing. Very articulate. I think he's one of the only people doing actual journalism. Like, he is so smart. Davis Jones, he's an independent researcher. He was talking about, well, the Strait of Hormuz being closed and kind of like the narrative that we're seeing on all the major news platforms. It's all the same. It's so. It's all the same diarrhea coming out.

[Josh]

Hey, one. One type of diarrhea. It's all the same kind.

[Andrew]

Yeah, absolutely. You've been there once. You've been there a million times.

[Andy]

Basically, what these guys are saying, they're like, nobody is getting through the straight of Hormuz, not even Beijing. That's what they're saying. So this independent research company called Citrini sent a journalist who they refer to as Analyst 3 to the straight of Hormuz to get the real scoop. They sent him with a box of Cuban cigars, $15,000 in cash, and a roll of Zinn, like a whole bunch of Zen. That was his exact brief face. They sent him to Oman and as soon as he gets there, they're like, hey, you can't do any journalism here. Like, write down, like, give me your signature that you're not going to do anything. He's like, cool, yeah, I'm not gonna do anything. And he's wearing recording sunglasses. Like, right then he has a microphone in his bag. Anywho, what he discovers when he gets there is that China is getting through the straight of war moves. They're going and taking different paths. They have painted the holes of their ships so that satellites can't see them so very much.

[Josh]

Flip off. The. We talked about the aims, whatever, the, The Nautical Tracking System.

[Andy]

Well, and that's what the. That's what the point Davis is making is, is they all use the same tracking system, which is called AIs.

[Josh]

AIs? Yeah.

[Andy]

And that is what all these news sources are referring to when they say nobody's going through the straight of removes right now. And it's like, it's so easy to not register with this AIs program.

[Josh]

And what, they just flip it off?

[Andy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andrew]

Why would you keep it on?

[Andy]

Yeah, yeah. And this guy is talking about too. He's like, Davis is saying. Or. No, the. The Analyst 3 is going there and he's like, it's chaos. Like, everybody's going through this freaking straight. It's not. You imagine it being like, empty. And he's like, it's crazy down here. And what Davis ends up relating it to is that all of our creative thought is just being efficiency based and we're going off of one system, kind of like AI, and we're having a collapse of diversity of thought. And it's happening.

[Lily]

I believe it. I mean, that's why. That's why I reached out to my buddy. I was like, everybody is starting to say the same thing. And I was like, I just want to know if there's another perspective.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Like just to put it out there to maybe balance what's happening.

[Andy]

I think that was so smart. And sometimes it just takes sending a guy with a bunch of Zen in person.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

To see what's really going on.

[Josh]

It's so funny that that's a.

[Lily]

Like a.

[Andy]

A requirement or not.

[Josh]

Not.

[Lily]

It's like a bartering chip.

[Josh]

Yeah. Bar chip.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Because it used to be like a pack of cigarettes or something, but like, give us the Zen.

[Andy]

Yeah, I know. And that's so funny. And that's what we see with that guy. We love this guy called. You would love him too. Oh, my gosh. What's his name? Mike Smiley or something?

[Josh]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Andy]

And he. Yeah. He travels to all these countries and it's always nicotine based bartering.

[Lily]

That's funny.

[Andy]

Isn't that crazy addiction.

[Andrew]

Speaking of bartering, universal language.

[Josh]

Do you guys know who Greg Phillips is?

[Andrew]

Greg.

[Josh]

He is the. The director of fema.

[Andrew]

Okay, Good guy.

[Josh]

Have you heard about what happened to Greg Phillips?

[Andrew]

No.

[Josh]

He's been interviewed before. And in fact, that interview is brought back up after he was named director fema.

[Andrew]

Okay.

[Josh]

And he's standing behind it.

[Andrew]

All right.

[Josh]

He claims he was driving from Alabama and then was instantly transported to a Waffle House in Georgia.

[Andrew]

He's claiming this.

[Andy]

Yes, that's happened to me before.

[Josh]

He said I was driving.

[Lily]

How did I get here?

[Andrew]

Gets everyone at a Waffle House.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Sounds like a sec. Saturday night.

[Josh]

He claims, though, that he was just driving along and then he just zoned out and he's in the parking lot of a Waffle House in Georgia. He said it was a total of 50 miles. That he went instantly.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Whoa.

[Josh]

And he felt dizzy, felt sick after. But then he said, like later on, like when he was questioned about it and all that stuff, I think like fema, they're like, are you. What are you doing?

[Andrew]

Yeah, it's not good press, bud.

[Josh]

Yeah. Well, he compared it to a biblical event he's like, that seems. It was like, was that intense?

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Where like, really mess with his head.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

But apparently he was going through some cancer treatment and like, he's like, oh, the medication and stuff like that. But recently, like, a couple days ago, I saw an article. He's doubling down. He's like, I was transported. I don't know how or why.

[Andy]

Wow.

[Josh]

But I was here and then I was there at a Waffle House.

[Andrew]

I mean, you got it. I mean, you got to believe the guy, right? Yeah. I mean, what's up with this? We're having multiple stories come out where these guys are just like, I don't know what happened. I was just transported in here. Like that guy that was on that police chase. Yeah. He was just like, I just was brought in here.

[Josh]

He said, I wasn't. I wasn't here.

[Andrew]

Dude, what's going on?

[Josh]

The.

[Lily]

The mountain in Argentina. That's one of the things, too. When people drive around it sometimes, like, time slippage is one of the. The things.

[Josh]

Let's talk about that.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

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[Josh]

Very good.

[Andrew]

Congratulations, Cassandra. Yes, whatever your name is. Yes, very good. What is a triathlon?

[Lily]

Yeah, ask. Ask the question.

[Josh]

You can only race with either two arms and one leg or two arms and one leg.

[Jake Hutchinson]

That's a different.

[Andrew]

Two arms, one leg, two arms. Like for sure.

[Jake Hutchinson]

So would you guys. Would you guys do a triathlon with me?

[Andrew]

How far?

[Josh]

Swimming.

[Jake Hutchinson]

There's all different ranges, but the one I'm looking at right now is quarter mile, which would be eight laps in the pool there and back. That's easy open water for me. With lifeguards. You could probably stand. 12 mile bike ride and a 5k run.

[Josh]

I think 5k run is like 3 miles.

[Andrew]

12 mile bike.

[Jake Hutchinson]

12 mile bike. That probably took an hour.

[Andrew]

I feel like I could do that.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I think it could.

[Lily]

The bike seems the hardest part to me.

[Jake Hutchinson]

No, that's the easiest by far. If you have hiking, dude, you just bike for an hour. It's easy.

[Andy]

I've only ridden bikes that don't have their tires pumped all the way. That's why that's.

[Andrew]

I mean, you train that way. That's good. And then you go with full tires.

[Josh]

Go this fast?

[Andy]

Absolutely.

[Josh]

Does everyone know this is it?

[Lily]

Is it like Tour de France biking or like through the trails and stuff?

[Jake Hutchinson]

Biking, it's. I don't know. Actually, I don't know.

[Andrew]

Imagine it's all pavement.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Like, probably the run is through a golf club. I was thinking like the run is through a golf club, a golf course, pathway, cart, pass, like five.

[Andrew]

I would do it with you.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Okay.

[Andrew]

If we did it all together, I would do it.

[Lily]

It depends. When?

[Jake Hutchinson]

Saturday.

[Andy]

This Saturday?

[Josh]

Not this?

[Andy]

No. I need to train.

[Andrew]

Buddy, I'm free.

[Josh]

Are you doing it?

[Jake Hutchinson]

If you guys are.

[Lily]

No, I'm not doing it.

[Andrew]

Come on, where's it at?

[Jake Hutchinson]

You never want to do triathlons.

[Andrew]

With me.

[Jake Hutchinson]

This one's in Cocoa Beach. It's the Ron John Cocoa beach one.

[Andrew]

How much is it?

[Jake Hutchinson]

134. But I bet we could get an influencer special and, like, promote it.

[Andrew]

For me, that's always been my thing. It's like, it's always so expensive to run. It's never very clear, like, where the money's going. Sometimes it's charity, but other times it's like, well, that's it.

[Jake Hutchinson]

It's the city put it on. They got to put permits and shut down a street and shut down a whole river.

[Josh]

And yeah, this one, they said all the money is going to the war. Which side that's for? We don't.

[Andrew]

It all depends on whether I'm running or not.

[Andy]

The only thing that would put me off is where. Where are we swimming? Because some of these places we're swimming are not swimmable.

[Lily]

Yeah, I just heard river.

[Jake Hutchinson]

The money's going to the war, and that's the only thing that would put.

[Andrew]

Lily's just assuming it's going to Israel. And she's like, sign me up.

[Andy]

I have this thing that happens when I'm in the water and I can't touch the bottom and I'm going, oh, my gosh, Anything could be underneath me right now.

[Andrew]

What? Motivation to swim, though, right?

[Andy]

Oh, I know. But then it'll chase me, whatever it is.

[Andrew]

That's what I'm saying. But you'd be through it, no problem.

[Andy]

Yeah, true that.

[Josh]

Did you actually know that we have a question corner?

[Andrew]

Question corner. Question corner with Lily, where the questions are fresh out of mind.

[Andy]

Bite talk for a minute.

[Andrew]

Oh, I wonder what she's gonna ask. Any ideas, guys?

[Jake Hutchinson]

Probably something about the deer above Josh's head. Looks like it has some new necklace.

[Andrew]

Yeah, those are the jewels from the Louvre that Lily stole.

[Andy]

Yeah, I was the heist behind the heist. Okay, I have two different questions, but maybe we'll just stick with one.

[Andrew]

By the way, the alopecia community is ticked.

[Andy]

Are they?

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Why is it already said they're not animals?

[Andy]

Oh, no. I do feel bad. I thought about it later, and I was filled with.

[Josh]

There is one supporter of what you said, though.

[Andy]

Is there a lot of negative feedback? For real?

[Josh]

There's one lady that's like my. She's like my Nona or something, has alopecia, and she's the most evil woman I've ever met.

[Andy]

Oh, my gosh. Okay, Would you rather have a mirror that could show you versions of yourself years into the future or have a toaster that always prints out cryptic messages on your toast that eventually become true toaster.

[Josh]

Cryptic? Well, cryptic messages. Like, would you understand what they are?

[Andy]

Well, it's like a pro. It's like, basically a fortune teller toaster.

[Josh]

Don't take the bus.

[Andy]

Yeah, it says, like, don't trust the mailman or something like that.

[Andrew]

Yeah, you mat's too easy.

[Lily]

You imagine how horrible it would be to, like, know who you're going to become. Like, how that would affect the decisions you make. You basically be incapable of, like, living in your own head. Think about where you're going.

[Josh]

The toast just pops up and says, a whole civilization will die tonight. What does that mean?

[Andy]

Oh, gosh. And that's exactly what's happening to Donald Trump. He has a toaster tweaked everything that comes out of the toaster. Wow.

[Andrew]

We got to stop this toast.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Someone unplug it.

[Andy]

I think that the mirror would be cool, too, because, like, I mean, like, if only if, like, physical aesthetics were important to you. But Josh is gonna look so cool as an old man, and I'm just gonna do this, and then I can make a decision, and I just start looking better.

[Andrew]

Yeah, but it's showing you your future, so no matter. Regardless of the decisions you make.

[Andy]

Well, I see my change, I see my reflection, and then I get a new face cream, and then I see my reflection again, and I work.

[Andrew]

What if it's already showing the future of, like. Yeah, you've already made those decisions because you've seen this. So obviously it's gonna.

[Andy]

You can change the future. Botox exists.

[Andrew]

I think there's a paradox that you're not getting.

[Jake Hutchinson]

That's the question, isn't it? If you can change it or if that's a fact. That's all. That's like the chicken or the egg. If you. If you see your future, is that still the future? Or can you change that future? And is your future different if you

[Josh]

change it or, like, stand in front of it? I'm like, I'm a small Asian man in the future. What the heck?

[Andy]

I guess.

[Josh]

Oh, it's Andrew's mirror.

[Andrew]

Oh, switching the wrong one now. What happened? What did I do?

[Andy]

Did you ever tell you they met you in the future in California?

[Lily]

Oh, I've seen the clip.

[Jake Hutchinson]

What?

[Andrew]

Yeah, we met future Andrew.

[Josh]

He's a really cool guy.

[Andrew]

He's a spice.

[Lily]

He's a sponger.

[Andy]

You guys said, where are the seals? He said, sea lions.

[Josh]

I don't know about seals, but I know where the sea lions are.

[Andrew]

He was very cool. His voice was awesome. Anyway, what's the other one? You said you had two.

[Andy]

Oh, you want the other one?

[Andrew]

Yes.

[Andy]

I thought that one was good enough to. Okay, this one's not as. It's like not very original, but it was fun to think about. Would you rather be stuck in the Amazon rainforest by yourself? Your provisions are taken care of. You have water and food, but you're just surviving.

[Andrew]

Okay.

[Andy]

Or stuck on a robot.

[Andrew]

Are stuck on a robot robo in

[Andy]

the middle of the ocean, but you have food and water.

[Josh]

Amazon.

[Andrew]

Amazon. For sure.

[Andy]

Kidding me.

[Andrew]

Yeah, that'd be awesome.

[Andy]

Critters.

[Jake Hutchinson]

The bugs though. That said the bugs I was about.

[Lily]

Mosquito net was going to be a huge.

[Josh]

Oh, but the ocean. How long?

[Andy]

A week.

[Josh]

Ocean, yeah, definitely ocean.

[Andy]

Ocean.

[Andrew]

I'd be puking the whole time on the ocean.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Josh]

You got. Have you seen Jungle with Daniel Radcliffe?

[Jake Hutchinson]

No, no, I've seen it either.

[Josh]

Yeah, you guys need to watch it.

[Andrew]

I'll put on my list.

[Josh]

He gets. He gets previous life.

[Lily]

But a week long fishing trip.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yeah, that'd be sick. That's what I'm thinking. Old man in the sea type thing. You do like us. What if.

[Josh]

What if you did it, but you were unfortunately with the person that annoys you the most.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Oh, Amazon. You could take their mosquito.

[Josh]

I don't know if you don't actually know the person, but it would be a person that would annoy you the most.

[Andrew]

You see a black panther, be like, hey, could you go grab something over there for a second?

[Andy]

I could not just. I wouldn't even be able to sleep in the Amazon thinking about snakes crawling on me and stuff.

[Andrew]

Yeah, Amazon. At least you can get away from the person a little bit.

[Josh]

Yeah, true.

[Andrew]

You get a little space.

[Andy]

I've been thinking a lot about that scene in Apocalypto where they're chasing the man and then the snake comes out right in the neck. That guy's gone in this second, dude.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Speaking of movies, gotta mention real quick, 10 out of 10 movie. I told him about it. Nirvana the band. The. Nirvana the band. The show.

[Andy]

The movie is about Nirvana?

[Andrew]

No, it's about two guys who have a cover band of Nirvana. Nirvana, it's called Nirvana the band. And then they created a show that was like an Internet show back in the day and they made a movie and it's a time travel movie where they go back from 2025 to 2008. It's so good. Oh, it's so flipping fun.

[Andy]

Fun.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yeah, it's crazy new.

[Andrew]

Yeah, Came out Like, February.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Oh, cool.

[Andrew]

So good.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Are you guys gonna go see a. Theo Von's new movie, Busboys?

[Andrew]

I might. Just to support the comedy. Yeah, like, the comedy movies, I think, like, they. They produce it all themselves. All themselves. That's probably why it's not getting pushed a ton.

[Josh]

Did you see the proposed popcorn buckets?

[Andrew]

Yes, that was the obon. Yeah, that would be.

[Jake Hutchinson]

So we got a guy in Knoxville who can make those, or so that meme was.

[Josh]

That would be so cool.

[Jake Hutchinson]

That was awesome.

[Andrew]

We need to get one from the top shelf up there.

[Josh]

Oh, yeah.

[Andrew]

It'd be so funny.

[Jake Hutchinson]

That'd be cool. I'm stoked about that. I already bought my tickets.

[Josh]

Andrew, you got a. You got a real.

[Lily]

I do, but it's not coming through. I've been trying to send it for, like, two minutes.

[Andrew]

Airdrop it.

[Josh]

Well, we can.

[Andy]

I don't know how to accept an airdrop.

[Lily]

You just hit accept.

[Josh]

Oh, Andrew's got a real. Gonna show us right now. Andrew's got a real.

[Andrew]

Right now.

[Andy]

Right now.

[Lily]

Golly. Started sending so fast and then slowed down.

[Josh]

Well, before you get started or while it's sending, I should say, here's a little fun thing. Do you hear what India's doing?

[Andrew]

What are they up to?

[Jake Hutchinson]

A lot of good food.

[Josh]

Trying. Trying to do the impossible.

[Andrew]

What?

[Josh]

They're trying to get a census of the entire country.

[Andrew]

How are they going to do that?

[Josh]

It is one point estimated 1.5 billion people in India.

[Andrew]

That's crazy.

[Josh]

And they're doing the census. That's actually. That's 20% of the world population is in India.

[Andy]

Oh, my word.

[Josh]

And with each person, they're going to ask them 33 questions. That's a total of 49 billion questions.

[Andy]

Wow.

[Josh]

And they're only doing it by going door to door.

[Andrew]

Wow.

[Josh]

And the government of India has established 3 million officials to do it. And they're only given a year to do it.

[Andrew]

That's impossible.

[Jake Hutchinson]

What's the math on that?

[Andrew]

That's impossible. What are you guys. We need to get, like. Just hire some, like, Jehovah Witnesses or something and go over there for training as missionaries. For training?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Knock on some doors. They've been built for this.

[Josh]

What is the math on that?

[Jake Hutchinson]

Oh, 1.2 billion divided by 3 million is. 400.

[Josh]

1.5 billion. 400,000 people.

[Jake Hutchinson]

No, 400, singular. Four. So maybe.

[Andy]

Oh, they can do that in a week.

[Jake Hutchinson]

400. I mean, a little more because you said 1.5, but maybe 5, 600 people per. In a year.

[Andy]

Oh, I could Do I could do that?

[Jake Hutchinson]

This might be completely wrong. Don't take this. Someone else double check this, please.

[Josh]

Double check it. What is 1.5 billion divided by 300 million? Or 3 million 300 million?

[Jake Hutchinson]

But is that even the right breakdown? Is that the correct math?

[Andrew]

I don't know.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I think it is.

[Andrew]

I don't know.

[Josh]

What is 1.5 billion divided by 3 million?

[Andrew]

I went to a college that didn't require math.

[Jake Hutchinson]

What college was that?

[Andrew]

It was our Christian college.

[Josh]

500. 500.

[Andrew]

500. Oh, that's impossible.

[Jake Hutchinson]

That's a little bit.

[Andrew]

400 doable. 500 impossible.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Little over one a day.

[Josh]

Isn't that crazy, though? A census of 1.5 billion people.

[Andrew]

I wonder, like, how that's gonna develop over time. Like, how? Like, you think because you need their information, you can't. It's not just, like, how many people, right? Yeah, you got to have the information. That's the tough thing. Cuz, like, you could just have like a drone go over with a heat map and, like, count all the.

[Lily]

Let's.

[Josh]

How they're doing the 33 questions per individual.

[Jake Hutchinson]

What are they asking them? Same question.

[Josh]

Color.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Oh, yeah.

[Josh]

What's your biggest fear?

[Jake Hutchinson]

Just to get categorical information.

[Josh]

Who's your first kiss? Yeah, that was one.

[Andrew]

How was that first kiss? On a scale one to ten, do

[Josh]

you guys follow Jake Hutchison on Instagram?

[Andrew]

That should be on there.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Probably a lot of them do.

[Josh]

Probably. That'd be really cool.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I get a lot of people in real life who stop me and say, I saw you on the Ninjas or Butterflies podcast.

[Lily]

Really?

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yeah. People love you in real, like, people are out there really loving you guys a lot. Like, I get stopped in Trader Joe's Tire Kingdom, Walmart, on the water bathrooms, truck stop bathrooms.

[Lily]

Heck yeah.

[Jake Hutchinson]

It's great.

[Andrew]

Stop bathrooms.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yeah. The Bassmaster Classic even.

[Andrew]

Heck yeah. We are number 23 in comedy in Iraq. So for all the people in Iraq, thank you so much. We support those who listen.

[Lily]

I ran that by my guy and he was like, we are. You know, people are over there. I was like, hey, just something you should be on the lookout for. I was like, I think that might be a way of tracking elevator pitch.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Lily]

I was like, that might be a way of tracking our presence, because I know 10,000 people are somewhere in the Middle East. But it wasn't released where I was like, but we just jumped to 25 on Iraq's podcast charts. And he was like, that's interesting. He's probably accurate. But he was like, oh, whoa.

[Andrew]

So Military people might be listening to our pod in Iraq.

[Josh]

Nice. Shout out, dudes.

[Lily]

Turn on airdrop because it's going that way.

[Andy]

I see a. I see a video.

[Lily]

There's two coming. The other one won't send.

[Andy]

Oh, which one do we start with?

[Josh]

I just got one.

[Lily]

Yeah. Oh, you got one airdropped and one in the text.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Oh, so two.

[Josh]

Really complicated.

[Lily]

I know, I know.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Do you see my.

[Lily]

I see yours. I'm waiting for lilies.

[Andy]

I just turned it on this. First time I've ever done that.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Airdrop?

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Are you joking?

[Andy]

I'm so serious. I've never used someone.

[Lily]

I might have to turn my phone to her because she's not popping up.

[Andrew]

She's 46 years old.

[Lily]

She might not have.

[Andy]

46 years old.

[Andrew]

You look great.

[Andy]

Wow.

[Lily]

Okay. Well, should I hit that beat? Just kidding.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Wait, which one are you watching? Text or airdrop?

[Lily]

The water.

[Andrew]

One. Okay.

[Josh]

All right. Ready?

[Lily]

Yep.

[Josh]

3, 2, 1, go.

[Lily]

Might kill the volume.

[Andrew]

Ah.

[Lily]

So this dude swimming with a dolphin creature.

[Andy]

That's a manatee.

[Andrew]

I thought it was.

[Lily]

Look at that.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Some mix.

[Lily]

I forget what they're called.

[Andrew]

Dude, that's so scary.

[Lily]

No, that's. You know those stories of what dolphins do? Yeah, that's it. That's it.

[Jake Hutchinson]

No. What?

[Lily]

That's happening.

[Andrew]

No, thank you.

[Josh]

So what is that thing?

[Jake Hutchinson]

Is that it? Our wolfen?

[Lily]

Yeah. Marwar.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Oh, a Narfin.

[Josh]

I've never seen that creature in my life.

[Andrew]

It has the face of a manatee. The body of a dolphin.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yeah, it's a skinwalker.

[Josh]

Probably. Probably.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Dude, wait. Pause the video like, seven eighths the way through. You can see

[Lily]

it take.

[Andy]

No, I did see it. I wasn't gonna say anything.

[Lily]

My bad.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Okay.

[Josh]

All right, moving on.

[Andrew]

Good for him.

[Andy]

I don't know where the airdrop video is. I don't have it.

[Lily]

All right, all right, we'll turn it to you.

[Andrew]

This is.

[Lily]

This is why Andy refuses to go get his body taken care of.

[Josh]

Do you need volume for this?

[Lily]

So you can scrub through this? The volume won't hurt it, but you don't need it.

[Andy]

Is it. Will it show up in my.

[Andrew]

Ah.

[Josh]

Okay. Yeah, I'm just gonna go.

[Andrew]

Are you joking me right now? What is happening?

[Lily]

This is the craziest acupuncture technique I've ever seen in my life. Oh, my God.

[Andrew]

Dude, that guy's panicking, bro.

[Lily]

He's, like, asking him. He's like. He's like, how do you feel? Can you. Can you feel it?

[Josh]

Oh, my goodness.

[Andrew]

Oh, thank you.

[Josh]

Oh, my.

[Andrew]

Yeah, you're yeah. Not helping your case of ever getting me in there.

[Lily]

Oh, is that not. He just keeps going. He goes to the other way.

[Josh]

That is good.

[Andrew]

I. Oh, man. That's making me tingle.

[Lily]

How much?

[Jake Hutchinson]

Oh, how much that was.

[Andrew]

I can't be good.

[Lily]

The craziest part to me is he's not going. Single needle. He ends up. There's one clip where he goes like. Literally. There's at least three together.

[Josh]

He's not doing it. That's not. You don't do it. That's crazy.

[Andrew]

I don't like that at all.

[Lily]

It wouldn't feel like this section if something didn't make you cringe.

[Andrew]

Very good, Andrew. Thank you.

[Lily]

You're welcome.

[Andrew]

Very good.

[Lily]

The dolphin creature wasn't enough.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Any more info on that? Like why he was doing that or anything or just random?

[Lily]

Just health video. Health my feed now. It's like. It's like hunting and then dolphins doing

[Jake Hutchinson]

that and this also hunting.

[Andrew]

Boom.

[Josh]

Speaking of Artemis too.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

You guys ever hear about the flashes of light mystery from the Apollo missions?

[Andrew]

No.

[Josh]

This was crazy.

[Andrew]

Crazy.

[Josh]

The flashes of lights. The Apollo astronauts, when they're in space, they were reporting back to NASA headquarters, back to Houston. They're like. We are seeing just these random bursts of color lights, sometimes in geomat. Geometric patterns. And we see them even when we close our eyes.

[Andy]

Oh my word.

[Josh]

And that's like.

[Lily]

All right. Oh, yeah.

[Josh]

Just. Just give us a second here.

[Lily]

Let's just figure this out real quick. But don't, don't, don't freak out. We got this covered.

[Andrew]

Can you repeat that?

[Josh]

What is that?

[Andrew]

Yeah, dude.

[Andy]

What are you talking about?

[Andrew]

Like, so, like they saw it outside and then they would see it once they close their eyes.

[Josh]

Like they would like. Yeah, they would see it and they're like. And they said it would come in. It was very patternized. So they both see it at the same time.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Even with all the lights off, with their eyes closed, the geometric patterns and different lights difference. I think it's like red, white.

[Andrew]

Did they ever like, draw them or like, like draw them out or something?

[Josh]

I don't know. They said occasionally yellowish lights. Yellowish lights.

[Andy]

Yellowish,

[Andrew]

Goddam yellowish lights in there.

[Josh]

You guys got to be sharp when you talk around Lily. Otherwise.

[Andrew]

I know. Terrible.

[Josh]

But what it turned out to be, or what they say it was, was radiation

[Jake Hutchinson]

from.

[Andrew]

So there's radiation, like creates these shapes, like physically when you're looking at them.

[Josh]

Yeah. So your brain can it. The radiation is literally entering your brain and then like your retinas and stuff. And so you can visibly see it.

[Lily]

I wonder if it's like when people say they can see lasers like or if it's the same type thing.

[Josh]

I can see it, bro.

[Andrew]

That's.

[Lily]

You know what I'm talking about.

[Josh]

Actually I don't.

[Lily]

There's like a weird conspiracy where people like stare at lasers.

[Josh]

Oh yeah. And they see like the.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

But they also take like DMT before they do it.

[Lily]

I mean that helps.

[Josh]

Don't we all, don't we all imagine

[Andrew]

like Chernobyl, dude, what those people were seeing. I know stuff like that. Like high amounts of radiation. That explains also the kind of like that UFO story from in Texas when they saw the, the diamond.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Ufo.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

It makes you wonder like. I don't know, man. Because they had radiation poisoning as well.

[Josh]

Yeah. So I mean, but NASA basically like told no one to like freak out and stuff. But what they didn't reveal was like, oh, what does that actually do to the human body? So that's why this Orion capsule, the Artemis too, it took them so long because they had to figure out the right covering for radiation passing through the Van Allen belt. Radiation belts. And the Apollo dudes just blasted through that thing and they're like ratios just penetrating their brain.

[Andy]

How are they doing now?

[Josh]

Well, I think they're primarily all dead except for Buzz and maybe one or two others. So I guess fine. Or did they even go to the moon?

[Andy]

Buzz was on that one?

[Josh]

No, he was on one of the Apollos. Yeah. Wow.

[Andy]

We're so lucky he came to our school. That's crazy.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Jake Hutchinson]

It's in.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And a munchkin from wizard of Oz.

[Andy]

I don't remember that.

[Josh]

Yeah, I was really little.

[Andrew]

Would have been so funny if it

[Andy]

was like the same utero.

[Josh]

Isn't that crazy?

[Andrew]

That is wild. That would be so scary.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

At least you wouldn't be alone though, like, because everyone else is experiencing too. So it makes sense. Like, okay, it's. It's something, you know, scientific, you know, it's something you can measure or something like that's.

[Josh]

It says that the particles, the radiation particles pass through the spacecraft. It hits the astronauts retina or visual cortex. And the brain interpreted it as light.

[Andy]

Oh man.

[Josh]

But they're both seeing the same thing. That's at the same time. But like it would come in waves.

[Andrew]

Yeah. That's scary, man.

[Josh]

Isn't it?

[Andrew]

Space is wild.

[Josh]

Space is wild.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Sounds like a drone show.

[Andrew]

Yeah, yeah. It's kind of like the, the optical illusion where like where you see Jesus when you close Your eyes. You stare at those three dots. Is there radiation in that picture? Maybe.

[Josh]

Probably.

[Andrew]

Possibly.

[Josh]

Probably. Speaking of radiation, don't you have a theory about the pyramid or something?

[Jake Hutchinson]

I do. I have a pyramid theory with energy and the amount of people on Earth. Oh, I don't know if I've told you guys this before, but I was listening to something and then it kind of clicked in my head and I was like, oh, what about this? And I think if energy is never created or destroyed, right, and there's more people on Earth now than there was back then, then the energy per capita could have been way higher. And that energy could have translated into letting people do way more stuff with the same looking body but way more energetically charged brain. Letting you move things with your brain and stuff. Like that movie Salt, I think. Or that one movie where the Russian girl kind of access more than 10% of her brain. Oh yeah, yeah, Lucy, that one. The nicotine girl. I, I drew it out, but I didn't do a great job of drawing it out. But basically, I think this doesn't make sense, but there's the pyramids. And when the pyramids were built, there was that many people. One circle of people.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Jake Hutchinson]

And one circle of energy. Energy remains the same. It's always one circle of energy. But as time goes on, there's way more people, way more circles of people, but the same energy. So if those people had all that energy now we, which are way more people, still only have all that energy. So if we're sharing had all that energy, they could probably move the pyramids and move the blocks with their minds.

[Andy]

Wow.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Or do mind your things like that. I think that actually makes sense.

[Josh]

That's not a terrible theory.

[Andrew]

Oh, that's good.

[Jake Hutchinson]

It's pretty decent.

[Josh]

It's pretty good. What do you guys think is we talked about before just like there's like a lost knowledge. Like we even talked about like telepathy. Like could like the early humans have had like telepathy of sorts. Like that was the, the universal language.

[Andy]

Science scientists speculate that it was the evolution of verbal language that got rid of telepathy. That we were all really all used telepathy and then we created verbal language. I don't believe that.

[Lily]

Well, it makes sense. Gen Z is reduced like complex vernacular down to sa.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

So language is like.

[Andy]

I would call that a higher intelligence.

[Lily]

That's what I'm calling higher intelligence technology. As technology increases and learning increases, the language is dissipating or just a little

[Andrew]

nod you get when you walk Past a guy in the.

[Lily]

Have we. We've talked about the. The difference between the two, right? The two nods. The person I don't know if we talked about.

[Josh]

They definitely mean a lot.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Lily]

You know, like. But. But why? It happens.

[Josh]

No.

[Lily]

So, like, the nod up is like, what's up? I know you. The nod down is I don't know you. It's protecting your vitals from an evolutionary standpoint, like, you turn your. Like you make like a dog will show its belly to someone it loves.

[Josh]

When people do that, when I don't like them, I want to just bite their neck.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Yeah. Instinctively.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I saw you do that one time.

[Josh]

Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Well, I heard one time, I think it was on Diary of a CEO. It was a communication expert that goes on there. I don't know if this is a person that said it, but I was consuming this at the same time I learned this fact. So it adds up. Occam's razor.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Andy]

She said that when you greet someone, you subconsciously won't even notice it. You put your hand near your nose so that you can smell them. You. You will. From an evolutionary perhaps standpoint, when you meet someone, you will always go to smell them. So if you shake your hand involuntarily, you'll find your hand by your nose

[Josh]

or something like itching or like.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

The judges has told me to stop that. It's just. It's so good to meet you.

[Andy]

That's really interesting. So interesting. But okay, so energy cannot be created or destroyed. We know that, but my Functional Medicine, Dr. Joanne Keller, believes that we all put off energies and that when you're in a too crowded space, like a city or something like that, it's bad for your health because there's too much going on.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Too much energy hitting you from other people. Yeah, Makes sense.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Sounds like a bunch of hippie crap.

[Andrew]

You walk into Disney, you tell me there's not an energy problem.

[Josh]

Well, that's why I freaking freak out at Disney.

[Andrew]

There's too much. There's too much energy.

[Josh]

Too much energy. Energy.

[Andy]

Do you like Disney?

[Jake Hutchinson]

I've never been really?

[Andy]

Wow.

[Andrew]

Maybe there's been a really?

[Jake Hutchinson]

ID comes from, like, you're getting anxious because there's too much energy from other people hitting you.

[Andy]

Hear me, Jake? I've never been an anxious person in my entire life. I am not an anxious person. Naturally. It's these people.

[Jake Hutchinson]

You people.

[Andy]

It's you guys and my season of life, to be fair, but seasonal wife life.

[Josh]

Oh, but I am.

[Andy]

I'M a completely non anxious person.

[Josh]

It. It's true.

[Andy]

Generally.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Except what are you saying here? Except when you get into big crowds or just when you get around these guys.

[Andy]

I love. I love people.

[Andrew]

But she gets around us.

[Andy]

Apparently it's them specifically.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Fellers got a lot of people yell at me all the time.

[Andrew]

Yeah. Well.

[Josh]

Well then you grew up.

[Andrew]

Your old age is doing that to you. So.

[Andy]

Wow. And you're old.

[Andrew]

I am. And I'm happy about it. I'm 57. I look great.

[Josh]

I know we've talked about it a long time ago, but I think there's a dude on the. Or is it Danny Jones? When he was talking with Joe Rogan, they were talking about how data actually has weight to it.

[Andy]

Yeah, dude, I've heard this.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Really?

[Josh]

And so like there's. There's a point to where Earth's mass, mass. It can't necessarily like energy grow anymore because all the mass is already here.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

But data can actually add to the mass of the Earth.

[Andrew]

Really?

[Josh]

It's a mass that has never been on Earth, but now it's being stored on Earth and it actually has weight to could in turn throw off the axis of Earth one day.

[Jake Hutchinson]

That's crazy.

[Andy]

We know nothing. Dude. This there isn't.

[Josh]

And I don't understand that.

[Andrew]

No, like an empty tip. Like a. Like if your hard drive or something

[Josh]

put dad on it.

[Andrew]

Where's that? Where did that set up most?

[Josh]

Minuscule, like the smallest. Like point zero.

[Andrew]

Still though. Yeah.

[Josh]

But there is weight to it.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Really?

[Josh]

Yeah, there's a mass to data.

[Andrew]

I saw someone say like when crazy. When the astronauts bought brought back moon rocks. That was like the first time we actually had made the Earth heavier because like everything else on Earth was like made on Earth.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

A part of Earth already. But then I'm like, but you have kids and children that didn't exist and now heavier. So it's like that doesn't really add up. But I do like that thought process of like us bringing stuff from other planets. We're like, that's kind of a big deal.

[Josh]

I was like, wait a second, what is this?

[Lily]

I can't spin as fast.

[Andrew]

Get this weight off.

[Lily]

What are you guys doing?

[Jake Hutchinson]

Wait, think about that though. Like the same thing. There used to be less people, now there's more people. That's more mass on the Earth now because there's more people. Yeah, it probably is heavier.

[Andrew]

Oh, it definitely is. Yeah.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Okay.

[Andrew]

Weird, right?

[Josh]

We don't.

[Andrew]

And also like 3D printing, but like, I don't know I don't. I don't know.

[Josh]

Well, 3D printing. That massage is transformed into another.

[Andrew]

Sure. But then does it get lighter or heavier or. I don't know how that works.

[Josh]

Well, the.

[Andrew]

The burning stuff, and then, like, what is.

[Josh]

What if mass has not changed because there was humans and giant dinosaurs at one point. Yeah, mass was even.

[Jake Hutchinson]

So now we're back to.

[Josh]

People are listening

[Andrew]

with science degrees. Like, you guys are losing.

[Josh]

Hold on.

[Jake Hutchinson]

What was more, ice or water? Because there used to be ice ages, so the same amount of water on Earth, if it was frozen back then, it could weigh way more than it is now. Or if it's not frozen now, doesn't

[Josh]

it weigh the same?

[Jake Hutchinson]

I don't know. Someone's got to test that.

[Andrew]

It's got to be different.

[Josh]

Probably a conspiracy theory chat. Hit us up what it does which weighs more, ice or water.

[Andrew]

Computer, tell me which one weighs more.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Those videos are so good. I love those. What weighs more, a pound of feathers or a pound of bricks? I don't know.

[Andrew]

A pound of your mother.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I have an alien thing.

[Josh]

Oh, you have an alien thing?

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yeah. From Key West, Florida.

[Andrew]

Whoa.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I don't know. Key West. All right, so there's this podcast to listen to called the Mill House Podcast, and it's basically the source for OG Fishermen stories where they bring on the best fishermen from around the world.

[Andrew]

Cool.

[Jake Hutchinson]

And get them to tell their amazing stories while. Because those stories are fleeting because you can't do the same cool stuff as you used to be able to do, like everything else. And there's this one guy from Key West. I forget his name, but he. Oh, I forgot. This is called to. But he can see the future also. What's that called? He sees visions of things that will happen.

[Josh]

Like a psychic.

[Jake Hutchinson]

No, he calls it something like he'll see a vision.

[Andrew]

Premonition.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Another word, starts with S. Maybe superpowers. I don't know.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Jake Hutchinson]

He literally sees things that happen.

[Andy]

Like psychic.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Clairvoyant. He's clairvoyant. Oh, he. One. One example he gave was he woke up. He has him while he's awake, too. It's not a dream. He's, like, awake in the morning. He had a clairvoyant moment where he saw a big manta ray jumping out of the water and potentially doing something bad, but he didn't know. And later that day, he has a client on the front of his boat. He's push, pulling on the back, and a manta ray jumps clear over the front of the boat, over the guy in real Life.

[Josh]

Whoa.

[Jake Hutchinson]

And he was fine. And he got. He said he had a huge sigh of relief because he thought something bad was gonna happen.

[Andy]

Oh, my gosh.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Same thing happened one time. He knew a car crash was about to happen. Didn't know where, when, or how. He was just praying that it would crash into a tree or something. He got hit by a car like, 30 minutes later.

[Josh]

Dang.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Like, he's clairvoyant. And then he also sees these UFO type things above Key west and in the Everglades. Maybe that's. It might be the Everglades national park, actually.

[Andrew]

Okay.

[Jake Hutchinson]

And he'll see these orb type things, these UFOs. Sometimes there's one, sometimes there's a bunch of them, and they just appear. And they can go from here to here with no acceleration and at insane speeds. It's not like.

[Josh]

It's like a tink. Tink.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yeah, like that. And they're huge, and they're big, and they don't accelerate. They just move. And sometimes when they come, like, the military and the Coast Guard show up right away, and nobody explains it. Nobody knows. And most people don't even believe him. But then he says, some people, he tells, he doesn't like to talk about it because people think he's crazy. But a lot of other people have, like, quietly told him that they've seen them, too. Nobody knows what it is. It's pretty interesting. And there's. There's no. There's no rhythm to it. No rhyme or reason. Sometimes you won't see him for two years, he says, and sometimes you'll see a few sightings in a month.

[Andy]

Wow.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Really early in the morning. Most of the time.

[Andy]

He should pay attention to what's happening globally when he does see them.

[Jake Hutchinson]

What do you think that could be coincidental with?

[Andy]

Well, like, war and, like, nuclear.

[Andrew]

There's been a lot of stories throughout history of, like, you know, UFO sightings or, like, contact people, like, claiming they've had contact from aliens. And a lot of it centers around, like, nuclear war.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Really?

[Andrew]

Yeah. And so, like, that's when a lot of Area 51 kind of, you know, started those, you know, Roswell. All that stuff happened right after the. The bombs were dropped.

[Josh]

The first detonation. Yeah.

[Andrew]

So it's. There's kind of.

[Andy]

It's like a warning, in a sense, really? I guess.

[Jake Hutchinson]

That's interesting. Maybe someone could ask him about that. I don't know. I think it's like episode 13 of the Milhouse Podcast. Mark something. Something very interesting. Listen, I'll try to Find the clip

[Andrew]

and show you guys.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

That's awesome.

[Andy]

I want to go to Key west, dude.

[Andrew]

Going this summer.

[Josh]

You know where you probably shouldn't go?

[Andrew]

Where?

[Josh]

Mount Everest.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Not now.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I know what you're gonna say. This is crazy.

[Josh]

Have you heard about this?

[Andy]

No. I live under a rock.

[Josh]

Mount Everest. There's a giant scheme. Minneapolis level Bruin Everest guide secretly poisoned climbers to trigger costly helicopter rescues as part of a 15 million euro scam.

[Andy]

Oh, my gosh.

[Andrew]

Is that not wild?

[Andy]

They didn't die. They were just ill.

[Josh]

Right. But. So this is found on Instagram. A major investigation has uncovered allegations that some Mount Everest guides deliberately made climbers ill to trigger unnecessary helicopter evacuations as part of a multi million dollar insurance scheme. Authorities in Nepal say substances were sometimes added to food or climbers were pushed into situations that mimicked altitude sickness, leading to costly emergency rescues that were later billed to insurers using falsified or exaggerated claims. The operation is believed to have run for years, involving guides, helicopter operators, and medical providers working together to inflate payouts to reach roughly $20 million. Dozens of individuals have now been charged, and the scandal has raised serious concerns about oversight, safety, and corruption within Everest tourist industry.

[Andy]

I feel bad for those poor Sherpas, though. They have a bad dude.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

So the Sherpas are getting beginning. Getting paid.

[Josh]

Oh, oh, no, no.

[Andy]

But they're. They're corroborating with the helicopter guys, right? That's what it is.

[Josh]

Well, it says involving guides, which I don't know if the Sherpas are necessarily the guides or just the help, but

[Andrew]

the guides would be the ones getting paid out of this insurance.

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andrew]

Okay.

[Josh]

The guides, the helicopter operators, medical providers

[Lily]

be like, under the table from the kickbacks. This could also be a bunch of rich dudes who were like, I can climb it and can't climb it. And they're like, dude, you're sick. It's like, you made me sick.

[Andy]

Just can't grab a test for the poison. Right. Like, they.

[Josh]

No, it's altitude sickness or. Yeah, the poison. They. Some of their food was getting poisoned. That would onset them being nauseous and stuff like that.

[Andy]

Oh, man.

[Josh]

But a lot.

[Andrew]

That's what happen to you.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Maybe that's why you're throwing up. Oh, yeah.

[Andy]

When did you throw up?

[Andrew]

Look into.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Look at the cameras.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

I only started throwing up when I started dating Lily.

[Andy]

Goodness.

[Andrew]

I mean, come on.

[Jake Hutchinson]

But it could be her energy giving you anxiety. Oh, she might have a lot of energy coming off of her.

[Andy]

Oh, My gosh.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Bad.

[Andy]

Don't put it in his head.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Bill. Bill Energy.

[Josh]

Let's take a break. Let's see if that fixes me. But yeah, a lot of these people were reporting, like, they kept on being like. I'd say, like, oh man, I'm a little dizzy. And then they would like, yeah, well, you might be getting like. And they would say, like, you could die. Yeah, die.

[Andrew]

Really?

[Lily]

And then they're like, oh, well.

[Josh]

And so they would get evacuated off the side of the mountain.

[Andrew]

If you're gonna die, though, die on Mount Everest.

[Josh]

Be frozen.

[Andy]

Really? They leave you there, Dude.

[Lily]

Cheap coffin.

[Andrew]

Pretty cool.

[Lily]

Do.

[Josh]

Those videos are so scary, though.

[Andrew]

It's terrifying. But also you see the ones like, where everyone's just in a line. It's like hundreds of people and you're like, this isn't fun.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Hundreds of dead people.

[Andrew]

Yeah, no, yeah, that. But also. But like, whenever you're climbing, like you're with a ton of people, I think about. It's like there's no space between you. It's like to me that just.

[Lily]

It's no longer like, what's the adventure?

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andy]

I think about that girl all the time that's on the side of the mountain who. And nobody grabs her.

[Lily]

You can't.

[Andrew]

Yeah, you could.

[Andy]

I thought you could air.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Loved her.

[Andrew]

Maybe you should do.

[Josh]

Yeah, I'm gonna pee real quick. I tried. I tried to hold it, but.

[Andrew]

Josh, don't leave us, please.

[Lily]

But I got an Argentinian pyramid store. Oh, okay.

[Josh]

I'll try to hold it.

[Lily]

All right, I'll go, I'll go.

[Josh]

Cuz I have one more thing too.

[Lily]

I'll go super fast.

[Josh]

No, don't. You just go at your own pace.

[Lily]

Pretty fast.

[Andrew]

She's.

[Andy]

This is a good exercise for him, Andrew.

[Josh]

Go slow so you can go faster.

[Lily]

Okay. So we talked about that pyramid in Argentina. The pyramid or volcanic mountain thing in the salt flat. Last week I said I was going to do a little more research and I found this crazy story of a pilot in 1995, but an encounter with a UAP. He does not refer to it as a UFO, but says, I don't know what it is. And this story is corroborated in release documents from the Argentinian government. This like, actually happened. People don't know what it is. So the dude is flying into an airport that I can't pronounce. His name is Jorge Polanco palancho and Barak UFO encounter 95 is what this is called. So it's July 31st. He's approaching the San Carlos Airport in patagonia, flying a 727. So this is within 10 years after top Gun, right? Pilots are pretty dope people in this era of world history.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

And he's been flying for 18 years. So this isn't a dude who's, like, new to these experiences. He flies these routes all the time. And as he's approaching the airport, he looks out his window and sees just, like, this beaming light as it gets closer. Realizes it's like this disc orb thing gets really close, and he says, oh, my gosh, it's the size of the plane. And he was like, there's lights, a light on each end and one in the middle. And typically, these encounters, you know, like, we see the clips and it's like it flies right by, and it's like, I don't know what that was. Yeah, this dude was looking at it with his crew for 17 minutes, he says, interacting with it. Like, they weren't talking, but they're, like, looking at each other. What is that? What is this? Freaking out after the event, he says his crew was shook. People were shaken. They didn't know what to do with it.

[Josh]

But it.

[Lily]

It's so real, right? Like, it's one thing to say I saw something, but as they're approaching, it's too close. He feels he can't safely land, and so he actually does, like, an evasive maneuver. Like, I don't know if this thing's attacking. And as he's descending, redirects his plane and flies up. So the flight history, the flight records show this dude is doing something because something's present, right? So this isn't just in his head. At least there's. There's a history of it. So the whole thing sounds like, well, that's crazy. Seeing some sort of light, seeing some sort of thing. And I started looking into, like, with that mountain, with that pyramid, what. What other UFO stories exist? Could it have been something tied to it? And so, like, I was saying, drivers around that salt flat, they have encounters where they'll see an orb. And then, like, the electronics on the car go crazy. Time slippage, like, all that sort of weird stuff. And I started saying, okay, what do the locals say about it? Like, what do they believe? And there's a deity, a feminine deity. They believe it's like the spirit that exists in all things, right? And so they say, like, a lot of, like, modern science will say the salt, you're just getting weird refractions off the surface, and it's making you see Things the locals believe it's this spiritual power or entity and this spirit kind of exists in all things and can have interactions with you. Like people there, like before they have a drink of something like alcohol, typically you pour a little out and I forget the phrase that they say, but it's very much a. Yeah, my name. They have a. It's a part of their culture, though. They do that. So maybe this pilot kind of was a little spiritual or something like that, was doing some sort of this stuff. Like, I'm trying to like disprove the story as I'm reading it. Well, as you continue reading into it, there is another government plane, without knowing he's reporting it, that is also reporting seeing the same thing in the region.

[Josh]

Wow.

[Lily]

So it's official. So I started looking in. Okay, who is this deity? What is this thing? What's the history of it? The deity is named Pachamama. Do you remember that?

[Josh]

Yeah. What was that from?

[Lily]

Oh, the deity that the Pope brought into their service.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

So when Catholicism reached Argentina, they took a local deity and interwove it and kind of replaced or mixed the legend of Mary with this deity. So this UFO entity the locals believe is their deity. They see it as the spirit, light being thing. And for some reason it's the same being that the Pope brought into a religious. Pope Francis, not the current Pope. But I thought that was crazy that all of this, all of this lore is tied not specifically to the encounters driving around the mountain that's there. And this flight was in a little bit of a different location. But Pachamama, that spirit entity they believe, kind of indwells all of that region. The Patagonia Mountains. We've talked about a ton of stuff from. Wow, isn't that crazy?

[Andrew]

It's a scary story.

[Lily]

The fact that another government plane saw it.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Lily]

And the fact that he, for 17 minutes, his whole crew reporting it. There's transcript, apparently that was released. I didn't look it up because I wouldn't understand it, but you know, like transcript of his calls back and forth. Like, we're seeing this cylinder the size of our plane straight out our windows in 95 keeping up with them. That wasn't a blend.

[Andrew]

That's amazing.

[Josh]

We should go to this place. Jake, you want to go with this?

[Jake Hutchinson]

Yeah. That's cool. And it didn't try to attack him or anything. It just is around.

[Lily]

All I know is it was enough to be terrified. And he did an evasive maneuver and flew like as he was landing, like reared the plane up and circled in

[Jake Hutchinson]

my head I'm imagining like an orange orb. Did you say orange or.

[Lily]

I did. It was. I don't remember. I'd. One of the lights. Two of them were. Two of them were green or one of them was green. Green and orange lights. But three lights total.

[Jake Hutchinson]

There's multiple.

[Lily]

Yeah, it'll. And on both ends. I forget which color was which.

[Jake Hutchinson]

And it wasn't just like a. I don't know. That's. That's crazy.

[Lily]

I mean it was close enough for him to say it's the size of the plane and to call it like a metallic silver or.

[Andrew]

And that you would be able to know if it was a plane or a helicopter or something. It wasn't something normal.

[Lily]

18 years of flight experience.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Jake Hutchinson]

And it couldn't have been like. Since there was three of them. I couldn't. Three things. It couldn't have been like a country with crazy like technology that like invisibility cloak technology with wing lights playing.

[Andrew]

Definitely possible. But I mean like how. I mean 95 in that area. It's like.

[Lily]

But the thing about cloaking too is it's typically like we have tech that kind of does it bending light now. But what matters is where the thing is, where the cloaking is and where the viewer is. But they have another plane government from a different angle that saw the thing. And so every like modern science says like, oh, you know, like you get reflections off the mountains and it makes you see things. So they're saying they were just seeing this crazy like wherever they were with the light and the clouds or whatever, it made them see a thing. And then it's like, well, what about like you didn't see the same apparition of reflection from two angles.

[Andrew]

Yeah, true.

[Lily]

But they reported the same thing.

[Jake Hutchinson]

That's cool, dude.

[Lily]

Crazy, right?

[Andy]

One time I was driving over by where Wawa is now. But it wasn't Wawa at the time. That back road on my way back to my parents house when I was in high school, I went to go see a movie at the AMC in Leesburg because that was our only movie theater. With my cousin Sarah at the mall. She was sitting in the passenger seat next to me. I look in the sky, three dots. And then they're doing this. It's 100 was an alien spaceship. But I googled the next morning because I'm like what did we see? And they're like, oh, it was testing at whatever, blah blah, blah. This was when I was in high school. So 15 years ago. Whatever. It was an alien. They were trying to get ahead of it. They knew what it was interesting. We do not have that kind of technology.

[Josh]

I've never told me that you saw the same thing.

[Andy]

Because we were. You were living out here at the time.

[Josh]

Oh, yeah, Maybe.

[Jake Hutchinson]

What were you doing then?

[Andy]

Like dating somebody or something dumb.

[Josh]

You have more boyfriends than I never had girlfriends.

[Andy]

No way.

[Andrew]

Say that.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I didn't say more boyfriends than I did.

[Andrew]

I didn't say that I had more boyfriends than you. Wait, hold on.

[Josh]

I've only had two girlfriends.

[Andy]

That is not true.

[Josh]

Yes, it is.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Fact.

[Andrew]

No.

[Josh]

Yes.

[Andy]

Well, then you've dated.

[Josh]

I've gone on dates, but I haven't. Let's move on.

[Andrew]

That counts. That counts.

[Jake Hutchinson]

He didn't get down on a knee and say, will you be my girlfriend?

[Andy]

Was gonna.

[Andrew]

Dude. Speaking of dates, did you see Pope Leo at the Coliseum? Yes. Pretty cool.

[Josh]

That's pretty cool.

[Lily]

Pretty cool.

[Jake Hutchinson]

What do you do? What happened?

[Andrew]

It was during the Easter service or Good Friday service. I can't remember which one. But he was carrying a cross.

[Josh]

Yeah, The Good Friday.

[Andrew]

And walking at night with like torches and stuff in the Coliseum. Doing a service.

[Josh]

Yeah, he carried the cross.

[Andrew]

Cool.

[Josh]

He carried the cross the whole way. And they said that's like the first Pope to do that in like, like centuries.

[Andrew]

I feel like that should be a mandatory thing. Yeah, you're the Pope. Do it all. It was pretty, pretty, pretty neat.

[Josh]

He's pretty cool.

[Andrew]

He's American. Of course he is.

[Josh]

Chicago.

[Andrew]

I go, I'm the Pope.

[Josh]

Let's get back into war then.

[Andrew]

Christ. No, thank you.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Can I ask you across?

[Josh]

Oh, yeah, sure.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I was in my friend's house a few days ago and in South Florida, and I walk up and they go, look at our neighbor's house. They have all these woods crosses in their yard, these weird crosses. And this neighbor who they never see, they don't know them. They live there for like 20 years. They don't know them, never see them. They have like 20 wooden. Strange looking wooden crosses around their yard. Different things, like in the middle of them. They have no idea what it could be.

[Andrew]

What makes it feel strange?

[Jake Hutchinson]

I don't know.

[Andrew]

Like, is there something about them that makes them strange or is it just like. Because they're all out there.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Just. Just the fact that they're there.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Just felt. It felt weird.

[Lily]

They're upside down.

[Andrew]

Interesting.

[Jake Hutchinson]

They weren't. Yeah. They were just regular wood. Big wood crosses in their yard arranged

[Andrew]

around their yard like a fence of like.

[Andy]

Yeah. Maybe it's their hedge of protection or Something. Maybe they take it literally.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Maybe.

[Andrew]

Maybe they're interesting.

[Josh]

Maybe they've just had a lot of pets that have died.

[Lily]

It's just a semi.

[Andrew]

Oh, yeah, that's just. That's. That's good. Yeah, that's probably it.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Maybe you're right. Let's go.

[Andrew]

Say it. A elk land. You know all the answers.

[Andy]

Maybe they trapped a demon in it.

[Andrew]

You should try to pass it one day. Walk across it.

[Andy]

No, that's interesting. You're so friendly. Jake, you should go knock on the door and draw them out.

[Jake Hutchinson]

The demon?

[Andy]

No, the person. And ask him about it.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I don't know. I'm not. I get freaked out. I'm a little bit scared of cat.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Jake Hutchinson]

That sounds creepy. Maybe. Maybe after I had a Celsius or two. I don't know. I don't know. Back to war.

[Josh]

Back to war.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

I have a story.

[Andrew]

Hit me.

[Josh]

So, you know, there's always a major event that happens that typically gets the US involved in a war.

[Andrew]

Sure.

[Lily]

You'd have like Pearl Harbor.

[Josh]

That was like the catalyst. 9, 11. Do you know what the one for World War I was?

[Andy]

The assassination of Archduke.

[Josh]

No, that wasn't for the US that was just a start.

[Lily]

Basically, the World War.

[Andy]

Oh, no. What?

[Josh]

The US didn't get involved until 1915, I believe.

[Andrew]

No, I have no idea.

[Josh]

I've heard it before, but I didn't know there was so much to it.

[Andrew]

Okay.

[Josh]

The Lustania sinking. That was a ship. It's called the Lustania.

[Andrew]

Okay.

[Andy]

Lithuania. No, Lithuania.

[Josh]

Lustania. What are you doing?

[Andrew]

You want to. You want to tell the story?

[Josh]

The Lustania ship, okay. It sank in 1915. Do you know how it sank?

[Andrew]

No.

[Josh]

Well, this happened three years after the Titanic.

[Andrew]

Okay.

[Josh]

It was a ship that was a British ship, but it was sailing from New York to Liverpool. And at this time, the German U boats submarines were just basically taking control over the ocean. And they were targeting primarily British and French ships, but naval ships. But the Germans said, if you are carrying any military equipment, we are going to shoot your ship down. Okay, but this was just a passenger ship.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And so, like, here's an idea. Let's just put an American flag up. And so this. This cruise line was basically. It looked a lot like the Titanic as well, but it had like 1800 people on or something, 300 of which were Americans. So it was going from New York to Liverpool and there's this giant sandbar. And so they had to like hug the coast of Ireland. And on this day, it just so happened to be super clear out. And there just so happened to be a German U boat right off the coast of Ireland.

[Andy]

Oh, boy.

[Josh]

They saw it, and they're like, shoot it. Get it. So they shot a torpedo. Torpedo took about 30 seconds. Everyone on board is like, oh, my gosh, There's a torpedo that's about to hit. The crew remained calm because they're like, this is an unsinkable ship.

[Andy]

We've heard that before.

[Josh]

Because after the Titanic, they introduced new technology to where if there's a hole punctured automatic door shut, electric doors that prevents it, the rest of the ship from flooding. So we're gonna get hit. Everyone just chill out. We're gonna be good.

[Andrew]

It's normal.

[Josh]

Boom hit. And it said it left a hole in the side of this ship about the size of a small house.

[Andrew]

Oh, my goodness.

[Josh]

Instantly started flooding. But a really crazy caveat with this is, before the ship took off, about 80 employees didn't show up onto the Estania. And they all worked the boiler room.

[Andy]

Oh, no.

[Josh]

And so the ship was actually going slower. So the ship is. That was the fastest ship at the time, went 30 miles an hour. But this would. So they didn't have one of the engines going, so it's going slower. The German captain of this U boat, he knew which boat that was, and he's like, this is how fast it goes. Shoot it. And it's gonna hit the back of it. But the ship wasn't going fast enough, so it hit the front, and what it did is the. The forward motion started filling the cavity faster.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Oh.

[Josh]

And then this is where the conspiracy comes in.

[Andrew]

Okay.

[Josh]

Another explosion went off. Like, oh, we just got hit by a second torpedo. The boat sank in 18 minutes.

[Andrew]

Whoa.

[Josh]

Over a thousand people on board died.

[Lily]

Dang.

[Josh]

Like, over a hundred of which were Americans.

[Andrew]

That's crazy.

[Josh]

That's so fast. When was it? Woodrow. Woodrow Wilson. Whatever the president was at the time, he's like, we're going to war because of this. There's a lot of things, but this was the. Let's get in there. The American people were behind it. The conspiracy part.

[Andy]

Yeah. Second explosion.

[Josh]

Years later.

[Andrew]

How many people died?

[Josh]

Over a thousand.

[Lily]

Gosh.

[Josh]

The way they died was brutal, too. Like, some people accidentally put on life jackets upside down and, like, so they couldn't flip back up and, like. Oh, yeah. Terrible, Awful. But over. Almost. Over a decade later, there's this lawyer who was, like, suing this, like, international thing because a New Jersey railway got bombed or something. So he got access to basically this general's file cabinet. And so he just started going through it. And that's where he discovered a classified secret organization within the British military called room 40. And room 40 at the time there, this group that were every day tracking where the U boats were, the different shipping lanes. And so they knew where everything was.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And they would warn boats do not sail in this region because there's German U boats there. They knew the German U boat was off the coast of Ireland. And they did not warn the captain of Lustania one week. Well, let me say this first. The person that ran room 40. Any guesses?

[Andrew]

Is he finance guy?

[Josh]

No.

[Andrew]

No.

[Josh]

Winston Churchill.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I knew you were gonna say that. I knew you were gonna say that.

[Josh]

Winston Churchill, he was the Lord of the Admiralty, which is a top naval official in the UK and he was ahead of room 40. He said a week before Lu Stania incident, he said, quote, it is the most important to attract neutral shipping to our shores in the hope essentially, of embroiling the United States with Germany, basically. Like, there needs to be a ship that comes here that gets hit. And so that will get the US to get involved in this.

[Andy]

That's really specific.

[Josh]

He said that a week before this incident happened.

[Andrew]

Oh, that's.

[Josh]

And here's illusion. And that caused such an outcry, worldwide outcry, that the Germans did this because a lot of innocent. Innocent civilians died.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

That Germany's like, okay, we're pulling our submarines out.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

They literally did that in World War I. They're like, okay, we'll stop that. So overnight, it instantly opened up all shipping lanes for the uk The US Got involved. But here's a little bit of a caveat. It wasn't until years and years and years later, when they were diving, looking at the Lucania wreckage.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

They found ammunition on board. They found gun mounts. And what happened was the UK Navy secretly was using the Lustania as a military ship, and the Germans knew it.

[Andy]

Oh.

[Josh]

So the German said, we were shooting down this because you were using it for military purposes. And it was like, no, you just shot a passenger. Passenger ship.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

But the second explosion was from the ammunition that was on board the ship.

[Andrew]

That's why.

[Lily]

That's crazy.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

And so they just. At the cost of having, you know, these passengers like ads. We're willing to make that sacrifice.

[Josh]

So Churchill. The conspiracy is. Churchill made the call, let the ship get hit. That made the US enter World War I. Wow.

[Andrew]

The dude loves war.

[Andy]

Dang.

[Andrew]

Dang it. More.

[Jake Hutchinson]

That's crazy.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

That's nuts. I Never heard that before. That's why.

[Josh]

Yeah. The Navy commissioned Luis Stania to get built. Made the fastest ship in the world. They had all these gun mounts and all this stuff.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Wow.

[Josh]

So that didn't come out until years later, though.

[Andrew]

Yeah, well, it just came out that the. The iceberg that hit the Titanic was also German made.

[Andy]

Wow.

[Josh]

So, I mean, commissioned by Churchill, probably.

[Andrew]

If it looks like frozen sauerkraut.

[Josh]

Fun fact, though. The Captain Duck, the captain of Lustania, his name was William Turner.

[Andrew]

No way.

[Josh]

He did go down with the ship, but it survived.

[Andrew]

Oh. What?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Yeah. Man, that's wild.

[Andy]

Jones or what?

[Andrew]

Huh?

[Andy]

Because of Davy Jones or how did he survive?

[Josh]

Life jacket.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Oh, life jacket on the right way.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Andy]

I have to go now.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Lily]

Well, dude, when we get to Patreon, I have a crazy life jacket reel.

[Andrew]

Oh, okay.

[Lily]

I actually do.

[Jake Hutchinson]

I have a crazy life jacket story, or lack thereof.

[Josh]

I just had a crazy life jacket story.

[Jake Hutchinson]

What was it?

[Josh]

The ones were upside down.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Jake Hutchinson]

You didn't physically have one? No, I physically had one. Didn't have one.

[Andrew]

Well, we're gonna tell all these stories on Patreon, right?

[Josh]

We are.

[Andrew]

So you got to go to patreon.com Ninjas are butterflies for an extra episode every single week. Or just download the app today and join for free. Get a trial run, test it out, Test it out. It's not a big deal. Jake's gonna be there. He's gonna talk to us about the bad water bill.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Bad water bill?

[Andrew]

You literally helped save Florida.

[Josh]

Whoa.

[Andrew]

Using the content and the videos that you do.

[Jake Hutchinson]

A little piece, a little part.

[Andrew]

No, all of it. It was all him.

[Josh]

Jake, where do people follow you?

[Jake Hutchinson]

They follow me on Hutch, Jake on Instagram, @jake hutchinson, 3 on tick tock, and jake hutchison on YouTube. I have hair, no eyebrows, few good jokes, and I'm reading the Alchemist over again right now, so I might have some good wisdom coming out soon.

[Andrew]

What's your username on Truth Social?

[Jake Hutchinson]

I haven't downloaded that. Okay.

[Andrew]

All right.

[Josh]

There will be blood. All right, guys, we love you. We'll see you on Patreon.

[Andrew]

Don't forget to comment.

[Josh]

Don't forget to comment so you can win something.

[Andrew]

Yep.

[Josh]

And share.

[Lily]

I just had a video.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Congrats on your baby.

[Josh]

He just.

[Andrew]

Andrew had a baby?

[Josh]

Yeah, I guess.

[Andrew]

Everyone drop a congrats in the comments.

[Josh]

Yeah. That's amazing news to me.

[Andrew]

This is crazy.

[Josh]

So cool.

[Andrew]

Hopefully we have, like, 2, 000 comments of congratulating you. That'd be great.

[Lily]

Yeah. I'd be hurt if we didn't.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

All right guys. Bye.

[Lily]

Love you.

[Jake Hutchinson]

What you're about to see wow may disturb you.

[Andrew]

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[Lily]

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[Andy]

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[Josh]

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[Jake Hutchinson]

was a massive police response.

[Andrew]

Oh, the dolphin thing.

[Jake Hutchinson]

Oh my God.

[Andrew]

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