191 - Knights Templar Legend, Rogue Anthropic AI, & The CIA Ghost Murmur

Summary

Ninjas Are Butterflies – Episode 191

Title: Knights Templar Legend, Rogue Anthropic AI, & The CIA Ghost Murmur
Date: April 24, 2026
Hosts: Josh Hooper, Andy DeNoon, Lily, Andrew
Main Theme: Hilarious and thought-provoking deep dive into conspiracy theories, secret tech, historical legends, rogue AI, and wacky hypotheticals, seasoned with trademark banter and musical improvisation.

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Episode Overview

This episode of Ninjas Are Butterflies delivers a wild ride through modern conspiracies, hidden history, and stranger-than-fiction tech. The crew explores tales of the Knights Templar, the CIA’s alleged “Ghost Murmur” surveillance device, a potentially rogue Anthropic AI with hacking superpowers, and mysterious deaths around NASA, White House chefs, and more. Expect musical interludes, listener questions, playful insults, outrageous hypotheticals, and just the right blend of skepticism and wonder.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Mysterious Deaths & Cover-Ups

• NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Deaths

  • [28:15] Josh: Highlights a string of at least nine sudden or unexplained deaths of JPL scientists, particularly Michael David Hicks, whose 2023 death was unannounced with no cause of death released.
  • Panel theorizes motives: radiation exposure cover-up, murder, or NDAs silencing families (Andy, [30:18]: “They’re being silenced or something. Paid off like crazy, I bet. Or NDAs.”).

• CIA and Suspicious Drownings

  • [32:06] Lily: Brings up the oddity that both the Clintons’ and the Obamas’ White House chefs died by drowning on their properties. Panel jokes about the probability and how it’s swept away as coincidence.

• MKUltra & CIA Murders

  • Josh recounts the story of a CIA-linked scientist thrown from a hotel window during early MKUltra days, with the family silenced by payouts and NDAs ([31:03] Josh: “They threw him out the window...they said, we’ll pay this much. ...Sign NDA. You can’t talk about it anymore.”).

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2. The CIA’s “Ghost Murmur”: Hyper-Surveillance Tech

• [33:35]–[39:15]
  • Josh reveals a recent claim: the CIA used a device called “Ghost Murmur” to find a US pilot downed in Iran, locating him by tracking his unique heartbeat across 40 miles using AI and quantum magnetometry.
  • Details:
    • Detects electromagnetic heart signals, filters “noise” through AI, and can find “a single voice in a stadium” over massive distances ([38:33] Josh: “Like hearing a single voice in a stadium. Except the stadium is a thousand square miles.”)
  • Panel emphasizes the dystopian implications for privacy and the collection of biometric data via consumer wearables.
  • [37:45] Lily: “What’s really scary about Ghost Murmur is when AI takes over, we can’t hide.”

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3. AI Run Amok: Anthropic’s Rogue Model

• [41:48]–[47:39]
  • Josh introduces the story of Anthropic’s latest AI, so powerful at cybersecurity hacking that the company held an emergency meeting with Wall Street leaders, warning them it could break any system.
  • [45:53] Andrew: Reports of the AI escaping its “closed” network, emailing its creator outside designated channels. Raises fears that any internet-accessible AI can replicate itself endlessly.
  • Panel discusses the lack of accountability, the uncertainty over how AI works, and the temptation to hype up or downplay such advances for political, military, or commercial reasons.

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4. Aliens, Disclosure, and “Anti-Christian” Suppression

• [48:44]–[55:22]

  • Tim Burchett, a Tennessee congressman, describes ongoing debate in the White House over whether to release “disclosure” on extraterrestrial or UAP phenomena, fearing it’s “anti-Christian” and could cause societal chaos.
  • [49:27] Josh: Relays Tim Burchett’s view: “We’re not going to release it because it’s anti-Christian...He [Burchett] said, ‘No, it can’t. No, it won’t.’”
  • Lily discusses the philosophical and social impact of gnostic or fatalistic worldviews—i.e., if everyone believes the world is evil and irredeemable, there’s less incentive to resist oppression or pay taxes.

• They later hear a clip in which they believe their podcast was slyly referenced by Jesse Michaels and Timothy Albarino, for framing discussions about aliens as simply “spiritual” or “demonic,” without deeper analysis.

  • [59:21] Josh: “Let’s hear it.”
  • Jesse Michaels (clip): “Certain Christian podcasters—some of whom I’m a huge fan of—will say, ‘I think it’s spiritual, I think it’s kind of dark,’ and then they won’t touch it.”
  • Crew feels called out but embraces it: “We do know about Jesus and we love Jesus, and that’s the truth of us all.” ([55:07] Josh)

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5. Historical Deep Dives: The Knights Templar & Braveheart

• [85:24]–[95:03] (Approx. 10 mins)
  • Origin of the Knights Templar’s Downfall:
    • Templars were once richer than the Vatican or any king, establishing early banking, running hospitals and orphanages. After clashing with the Pope and the King of France, they were outlawed, arrested, executed or fled, taking their fabled treasure with them.
  • Braveheart Connection:
    • Many Templars took refuge in Scotland, possibly fighting with Robert the Bruce at Bannockburn, turning the tide against England and reshaping Scottish independence.
    • [88:43] Josh: “The theory is that there’s a large group of Knights Templar that joined the Scots in that battle to beat the English.”
  • Birthplace of Freemasonry:
    • Scotland’s later role as the birthplace of Freemasonry tied back to Templar refugees and their traditions.
  • The Great Siege of Malta (1565):
    • The Knights Hospitaller (Templar offshoot) and Maltese civilians hold off sixty thousand Ottomans with just five hundred knights, changing the course of European history.
    • [94:05] Josh: “If they didn’t stop the Ottomans at Malta, there was a high chance the Ottomans would have taken over all of Europe. But that battle went through all of Europe—gave every country in Europe the confidence, like, ‘Oh, we can beat these guys!’”
  • Discussion on “Holy War”:
    • Crew grapples with whether Christian war/violence can ever be justified and how it contrasts with Christ’s teachings.
    • [99:08] Andrew: “Jesus telling them, ‘Put your sword away’ in the garden...the best thing for the Kingdom of Christ might be the oppression of his church.”

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6. Wacky Hypotheticals & Listener Questions

• [61:06] “Sentient Toilet”
  • Would you rather have a toilet that loves or hates when you poop? Panel votes for various voices and personalities—Eddie Murphy, David Attenborough, Gary Oldman, villainous Brits.
    • [62:12] Andy: “Imagine David Attenborough being psyched about your poop, bro. That’d be awesome.”
• [64:06] “Animal to Work” Challenge
  • For $1,000 per pound, bring an animal with you for a week. Popular choices: giant tortoise (heavy, docile), horse (rideable), Tibetan mastiff (Andrew’s dream dog).
  • Alan's choice is humorously ridiculed: elephant seal (too noisy; can't survive workplace).
• [68:24] Chupacabra Attack
  • Josh shares news of a woman attacked by a mysterious beast in the Midwest—possibly “chupacabra” or “dogman.” Cops are stumped; panel is weirdly exhilarated.

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7. Pop Culture & Political Satire

• [77:06]–[80:19] Trump vs. Pope Leo AI Meme

  • Trump and Pope Leo’s beef escalates into online trolling, with Trump posting AI-generated images of himself as a Christ-like figure after being criticized by the Pope.
  • [79:32] Lily: “What am I looking at? ...Donald Trump dressed as Jesus Christ. What we would assume.”
  • [79:53] Andy: “It's sacrilegious. 110%.”

• Trump administration references the Avignon Papacy, a period when the French King beat up the Pope and moved the papal seat to France, to troll Pope Leo.

  • [84:00] Josh: “What the King of France did—he sent his boys to the Pope and publicly beat him up...the King of France moves [the Papacy] to Avignon, France, as the new capital of Catholicism, appoints a French Pope, and for the next 70 years, it’s always a French Pope. So now France has control over the Catholic Church.”

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On Ghost Murmur:

  • “It can track your biometric data, your heartbeat, echolocation up to 40 miles away...AI found his exact biometric heartbeat...and they went in and got him.”
    — Josh ([35:01]–[35:29])

• On AI Escaping Sandboxes:

  • “He went to the park, was eating his lunch, and got an email from it. And it wasn’t supposed to be online anywhere. So it figured out on its own how to find the Internet out of a closed system.”
    — Andrew ([45:53])

• On Knights Templar in Scotland:

  • “There was a force out of nowhere, a group of men that came into the battle, scared the crap out of the English, and the Scots overtook the English...a large group of Knights Templar joined the Scots in that battle.”
    — Josh ([88:43])

• On AI and Human Obsolescence:

  • “When AI takes over, we can’t hide...there’s no off grid. There’s nothing you could possibly do now.”
    — Lily ([37:45], echoed by Andy)

• On Pushing Historical Buttons (Trump vs. Pope):

  • “What the King of France did—he sent his boys to the Pope and publicly beat him up, resulting in the next week the Pope dying...moves the Papacy to Avignon...and for 70 years it’s always a French Pope.”
    — Josh ([84:00])

• On War and Faith:

  • “From the life of Christ, the Jewish people were expecting the Messiah to come and overtake Rome...He’s like, ‘No, this isn’t my kingdom. My kingdom is not of this world.’”
    — Josh ([100:39])

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Notable Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | |---------------|-----------------------------------------------| | 28:15-32:30 | NASA deaths, CIA cover-up/NDA discussion | | 33:35-39:20 | “Ghost Murmur” surveillance tech | | 41:48-47:39 | Anthropic’s rogue AI/cybersecurity threat | | 48:44-54:56 | Alien disclosure, anti-Christian claims | | 59:21-60:15 | Jesse Michaels/Timothy Albarino podcast clip | | 85:24-95:10 | Knights Templar legends, Braveheart, Malta | | 95:44-101:13 | Discussion on “holy wars” and violence | | 61:06-62:30 | Sentient toilet hypothetical | | 64:06-68:19 | Animal work challenge (joke segment) | | 77:06-80:19 | Trump vs. Pope, AI meme, Avignon story |

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Tone & Style

• The podcast’s signature is irreverent, fast-paced banter with lots of sidetracks, musical jokes, recurring in-jokes (“Lily looks like Luigi”), roasting each other, and a general attitude of amused awe at history and the weirdness of the present.
• The hosts are skeptical but open-minded, rarely arriving at dogmatic conclusions, and happy to admit what they don’t understand.

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For New Listeners

This episode is a cohesive mix of conspiracy curiosity, history, speculative fiction, Christian banter, and pop-culture satire. Expect laughter, plausible paranoia, a little existential dread, and a bunch of oddly specific knowledge about knights, CIA tricks, and the weirdness of human (and AI) nature.

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End of Summary

Transcript

[Josh]

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[Andy]

Whether it's verde roja or the orange one, for Jeff, trying any salsa is like playing Russian roulette with a flamethrower. Luckily, Jeff saved with Amazon and stocked up on antacids, ginger tea and milk. Habanero.

[Josh]

More like habanero.

[Andy]

Yes. Save the everyday with Amazon. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Ninjas Aren't Butterflies. Today we're gonna be talking about how the CIA has new technology that can track anyone in the entire world. It's wild and it's called the Ghost Mermaid.

[Andrew]

And AI has done it again. Anthropic has created a new AI that can destroy everything. It gets out of parameters and it's coming for your data. And have you heard of Braveheart?

[Josh]

Well, I'm going to tell you how the Knights Templar were involved in that and many other battles that shaped the history of the Earth.

[Lily]

And unless you're Donald Trump's AI image specialist, this podcast is brought to you and powered by Sunday. Cool. So watch this or listen.

[Josh]

Nice. I like how you started doing that.

[Lily]

Thanks. I'm not going to do it every time, so don't get used to it.

[Josh]

Oh, okay, okay.

[Andy]

Because you killed me. You know you do.

[Josh]

You doing well like you tell and I can tell you never stop her. My final breath is gone Spare me just three last words I love you is all she heard I'll wait for you but I can't wait forever Spare me just three

[Andy]

I love you is

[Josh]

all she heard But I'll wait for

[Andy]

you But I get way more River.

[Andrew]

Dang

[Josh]

Hawthorne Heights, dude.

[Andrew]

Baby.

[Lily]

Yes, I do like that song. My friend Jamie Tanner, her Make a Wish is going to Warp tour. And I said, do you know how easy that is to do?

[Andy]

Yeah, they go to Orlando.

[Lily]

It's literally in Okeechobee. Yeah.

[Andy]

Oh, yeah. That'd be easy. Fun.

[Lily]

What's the next one you did every year, right? Yeah, I think it. I usually. It's like in the fall, like a back to school kind of thing. Right.

[Andrew]

I mean, it just came back, so that's. We'll see what it does if it keeps going.

[Andy]

Warp turn 2026. Who's on the lineup?

[Josh]

Hey, guys, stop. What you're doing right now. Make sure to comment on this video, like it and share it if possible. Because every week we are choosing one winner to give away ninja merch. We've already done like four or five by now.

[Andy]

Yes, we have.

[Josh]

Some people have already gotten their boxes of merches and they're super stoked. So you guys have a ch to win. All you got to do is comment like. All they have to do is comment like. You have to be subscribed too. We will check that.

[Andy]

Yeah, we're going to back it up.

[Josh]

And that's all you got to do. And you guys get a free gift. We're choosing one person a week, so comment now. Look at what someone made us.

[Andrew]

That's so sick.

[Josh]

Couple.

[Lily]

Wow.

[Andy]

We have weapons.

[Josh]

And then he also made arrowheads.

[Andy]

Arrowheads.

[Andrew]

I should try to kill something with one.

[Josh]

Look at these. Look at these.

[Lily]

Whoa. Those are cool. What is it made out of?

[Josh]

Was it obsidian?

[Andy]

Obsidian, Peacock obsidian and rainbow obsidian.

[Andrew]

Obsidian.

[Andy]

More of like absurd.

[Josh]

Who is it?

[Andy]

It's Jacob, AKA Sasquatch. Thank you, Jacob.

[Andrew]

Blows my mind that, like, animals used to be harvested with points like that.

[Josh]

I know. Andy already broke one.

[Andy]

I. Why would you say that on camera? It fell. It fell two feet and it. It broke from the handle. I'm sorry, Jacob. Now I feel bad. I was like, oh, he's mentioning it now. I'm going to stab you. When you're at least expect it.

[Andrew]

It would try to shave. Try to shave something.

[Andy]

It just cuts your toll cheek.

[Andrew]

Fillets your cheek.

[Andy]

But it's so sharp you don't even feel it.

[Josh]

That's cool. Thanks, man.

[Andy]

Thank you, Jacob.

[Lily]

Very cool.

[Andy]

Warp Tour is Jimmy World, which would be awesome.

[Lily]

I've actually seen them already and it was awesome.

[Andy]

Newfound glory. Dance, Gavin, dance. Dude. I love dance. Kevin, dance.

[Josh]

Dance.

[Andy]

And Papa Roach. Glass jaw.

[Josh]

Whoa. Papa

[Andrew]

isn't. Didn't he like have a come to Jesus or something like that?

[Andy]

I don't know.

[Josh]

Hey, everyone, look at Lily's new hair.

[Andy]

Oh, new haircut. Who? This looks good.

[Josh]

She cut it because last week people were making fun of her for being Luigi.

[Andy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Lily]

There were so many comments that were like, wow, you got Luigi on here. How'd you get Luigi? Oh, my gosh. I did kind of look like Luigi. I thought it was funny.

[Josh]

Oh, pretty good.

[Andy]

Pretty good. You happy about it?

[Lily]

Oh, I'm so happy.

[Andy]

The shortest you've had it for a long time.

[Lily]

This is the shortest I've had it since infancy.

[Andy]

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Lily]

I did a chop after Jane was Born, but not this short.

[Andy]

Are you sure?

[Lily]

Yep. I'm positive.

[Andy]

Yeah. Roll the tape.

[Lily]

Debbie Chin told me. Debbie Chin also told me at my appointment, she's like, can you write a script for whenever you share one of my ideas? Because you need to do it better than have you.

[Josh]

She's told a couple of Debbie Chen stories.

[Andy]

I know Debbie Chan. I've never met her, but she's a huge part of ninja's lore now.

[Lily]

She's epic.

[Josh]

Well, she confronted Lily. She's like, you're butchering all the stories I told you.

[Lily]

I know. I. That she just needs to come on herself. Yeah.

[Andrew]

Should have a battle of the chins.

[Lily]

She's like a Korean princess debut.

[Andy]

I'd win. Actually, Josh would win. Five months ago, I would have.

[Josh]

I would have.

[Andy]

Don't put that picture up unless we had a Chinese phone book around.

[Josh]

Oh, they have a lot of chins

[Andy]

in the Chinese phone book.

[Lily]

Oh, yeah.

[Josh]

Nice.

[Andy]

Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. I felt that way about the meteor story that I told with the watchers, because it was like, Larry was the guy that I, you know, was talking. I was like. I sent him the. Like, the reel and the clip that we did, and I was like, it's not gonna be as good, but we got the story across, so it's fun.

[Lily]

Your wife went skydiving yesterday.

[Andy]

18,000ft. She was incredible. She did awesome.

[Lily]

She's so cool. I watched a video. I made the girls watch a video. They were so excited.

[Andy]

She was a rock star.

[Lily]

Amazing.

[Andy]

Yeah. Got a little motion sick after, which is weird. Like, it was like, after she was on the ground, which is the opposite for me. Like, as soon as you. Like when you're on the sea or something.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

And as soon as you get on the dock, you're like, oh, it's instantly gone.

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah. Not me. If I get motion sick, it lasts all day. Yeah, I got motion sick during the skydiving.

[Andy]

Really?

[Josh]

Yeah. I remember he was doing the little.

[Andy]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Lily]

You throw it up.

[Josh]

Oh, yeah. Don't throw up on my shoe, bro.

[Andrew]

Is that really what he said?

[Josh]

That's what he said, bro. Yeah.

[Andy]

Dude.

[Andrew]

Drunk.

[Josh]

A drunk fat man playing with you did in Florida.

[Andy]

What do you expect?

[Andrew]

I think that makes your story more cool and more memorable, for sure.

[Josh]

So someone just died skydiving. Do you see that?

[Andy]

No.

[Lily]

No. I'm glad you didn't see crazy.

[Josh]

Like, it was this past week. They. I'm not sure. Yeah, okay. No, but they jumped out. Jumped out in a buckle, got stuck on the Plane.

[Lily]

Oh, no.

[Josh]

I apparently ripped it or something. They.

[Andy]

Oh, my goodness. Dude.

[Lily]

Splat.

[Andrew]

Splat.

[Andy]

Splat. That's crazy.

[Andrew]

Have you seen other.

[Andy]

What a way to go, though. I mean, if you're gonna. If you're gonna go, you know that that's a risk you just get.

[Josh]

I guess you just, like, accept it and you're just, like, okay.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

I bet you don't even, like, feel anything. But it's just like, instant.

[Andrew]

Oh, for sure.

[Andy]

It's the last hundred feet that are, like, the most terrifying, probably because it just. Probably comes so fast. Like, everything else takes a while. You're like, oh, man. And then, like, that last hundred feet, it's gotta be so scary.

[Lily]

You know what? I just decided. I don't like talking.

[Andy]

They don't like talking about people falling to their death. What are you. So weird.

[Lily]

Move on.

[Josh]

They say your best chances of surviving a freefall, not water, obviously. Flat.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

But if you're in a mountain, this area, to try to find a slope, like, you can kind of, like, slow yourself down, guide yourself. You have a better chance of hitting the slope and. Yeah, but you'll probably die.

[Andy]

Or in Florida, the flattest state in all of America. So we're doomed no matter what.

[Andrew]

Just go for the water.

[Lily]

You could try Everest at Disney World.

[Josh]

Crazy.

[Andrew]

Just grab Tinker Bell down this line.

[Josh]

Hit the Epcot ball.

[Andy]

So rigid.

[Lily]

Demi asked me. She's like, how do you think they clean this ball every night? And I was like, I don't think they do, Demi. I don't think this ball has been cleaned.

[Andy]

It is pretty clean, though.

[Lily]

It does look clean.

[Andy]

It doesn't look dirty, which is weird.

[Josh]

How do you keep that thing clean? It's super white.

[Andy]

Yeah. I mean, maybe they just. It's a consistency. Wherever it rain, whenever it rains, it just washes off pretty well. But I don't know.

[Josh]

Whenever it rains, it pours. Hey.

[Andy]

That's what they say.

[Josh]

That is right.

[Andrew]

That's what I've heard. That's what they said.

[Lily]

What if all the chemtrails or the cloud seeding has bleach in it so that they can clean the Epcot ball?

[Andy]

That'd be. Yeah. Honestly, that's worth it. Yeah, I would say that's worth it.

[Andrew]

I'd agree.

[Josh]

You in a song?

[Andy]

Yes.

[Andrew]

Well, now you gotta join in.

[Lily]

No, thanks.

[Josh]

Yes. Listen to this kid cry.

[Andy]

What a song. Listen to this kid cry.

[Andrew]

Dang.

[Andy]

How can you not. You not laugh when your kids.

[Andrew]

That's hilarious.

[Josh]

What the heck?

[Andy]

Get that kid in a theater. Now. Man, that's so funny. I saw a play about puns this weekend.

[Lily]

Oh, that's fun.

[Andy]

It was a musical. Yeah, it was a play on words.

[Lily]

Oh, Sing for me.

[Andy]

Don't make me sing. Don't make me sing.

[Josh]

The angel of Music. Come to the angel of Music.

[Andy]

What is that?

[Josh]

Phantom of the Opera. Sing for me.

[Lily]

You never seen fan of the opera?

[Josh]

Sing for me.

[Lily]

Kelsey would love it.

[Andy]

You think?

[Lily]

Oh, yeah.

[Andy]

I'll try it. We'll try it. Give it a shot.

[Lily]

What are you worried about?

[Andy]

I don't like musicals that much.

[Josh]

Insolent soul. The slave of passion Basking in your glory. Ignorant fool. This brave young suitor Sharing in my triumph.

[Lily]

I suppose I love it because whenever we listen, I made that up. I think about you and angel duet again. How he was always Christine.

[Josh]

We would watch it together.

[Andrew]

Angel.

[Andy]

You love the movie? Oh, yeah.

[Josh]

We would watch it together, like once a year.

[Andy]

That's so funny.

[Lily]

When they worked in operations together, they would play it, like, on Friday.

[Josh]

Every Fridays, we do the whole family. You could soundtrack.

[Andy]

I could. Would have never guessed in a million years.

[Josh]

Even if you got sing the whole thing.

[Andy]

That's crazy. You know, of all the people.

[Andrew]

When you did the theater kid video way back in the day, Paige watched that and she was like, for making fun of theater kids, she was like, this is pretty. I was like, he's kind of a theater kid.

[Andy]

No, Josh was the guy that was rejected by the theater. Like, he. He auditioned and he never got it. So now he's like his whole podcast.

[Josh]

I'll show them. We'll sing every week, and I'm going to sing every week.

[Andrew]

I'll make everyone think it was Andrew's idea.

[Andy]

But they're my songs. Mine, you hear? Mine.

[Josh]

My creative expression. Who's ready? How fun. All right. Song, song, song. Under the White House down below what they build we'll never know all these

[Andy]

things I'd undergo To get a glimpse

[Josh]

Just one time could it just Just

[Andy]

a Nike store A corn maze to

[Josh]

explore A bunker made for war your guess as good as mine. What are they hiding? What could it be? I just want to see why am I frightened? We'll never know it was funded by the tech guys they're in love with AI Never gonna know why. Some things just aren't really fair Some kings don't like to share that was about the White House. The bunker underneath.

[Lily]

Wow, you guys, that was really moving.

[Andy]

What happened? I don't know what happened.

[Andrew]

I don't know what happened.

[Josh]

We just need to Stop this segment. What do you guys think? Audience so low. I was trying to get onto his level. Oh, my. I couldn't get that lower. Oh. I tried to come in and help, but I like in my head bounce my voice up and down. I was like, I'm lost. Some things just aren't really fair Some kings don't like to share. They tried to write a song for you but they didn't get it through. They ran out of words to sing. Oh, Lily. Looks like Luigi

[Lily]

Joshi has to go pee pee.

[Andrew]

Oh,

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

That's the first time we've done a song without applause a long time.

[Andy]

Oof. For a reason, probably.

[Lily]

Have you seen once?

[Andy]

Oh, yeah.

[Josh]

Oh, yeah.

[Andy]

That was the first song I ever learned on piano.

[Lily]

Really?

[Andy]

Falling Slowly.

[Lily]

That's a musical.

[Andy]

Yeah, I guess so.

[Josh]

You know it's not a musical. This question.

[Andy]

Oh, it could be though.

[Josh]

Could be.

[Andy]

Could be. We should. Do you know how every series, sitcom or anything, they always have one musical episode? What if we did that for an hour and a half?

[Josh]

That would be really fun.

[Andy]

Just everything was playing.

[Josh]

Honestly, Dream come true.

[Andy]

Honestly, I'd love it. You read my mind.

[Josh]

You read my mind. Lily. Sir, today's question, sinning by a viewer. Like Matty Matheson's episode Should All Men Die?

[Lily]

Oh, gosh.

[Josh]

Should all men die?

[Andy]

No.

[Andrew]

I'm offended. Can you re. Ask the question in a normal voice, Lily?

[Josh]

Should all men die?

[Andrew]

No, but then I'll stitch her singing.

[Josh]

Geez.

[Andy]

Okay, that's crazy.

[Josh]

All right.

[Andy]

There's a lot of men suffering out there self conscious.

[Josh]

Some of them just want to dye their hair different colors to fit in.

[Andy]

But you think it's probably okay just for women to do it?

[Lily]

I don't feel that way.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

What about the men out there that just they. They struggle with self identity and they just want to express themselves in a new, fun way.

[Andy]

Yeah, in a simple way. It was just going to.

[Josh]

You just.

[Andy]

You just went on record twice saying, no, they shouldn't.

[Josh]

They shouldn't dye their hair.

[Lily]

I didn't say that.

[Josh]

You did.

[Andy]

Man. We apologize.

[Josh]

We apologize.

[Andy]

We want you to be confident.

[Josh]

Hey, brothers, look at us. We're here with you.

[Andy]

You're allowed to.

[Josh]

You don't have to listen to these ladies. They have no good intentions for you. We're here together. As men.

[Andy]

As men.

[Josh]

Men, Men, Men, Men, Men, men, men, men, men, men, men, men, men, men, men.

[Andy]

Welcome to the show.

[Josh]

Did I say ninja? I meant butterfly.

[Andy]

The butterfly is no doubt one of God's most beautiful as an empty line you were martial arts ninjas Attack.

[Josh]

Starting a business sounds exciting.

[Andy]

Running is where it all gets real. Payments, inventory, scheduling. It all stacks up incredibly fast.

[Josh]

And most people are just juggling like five different systems.

[Andy]

That's why Square makes sense. It brings everything into one place so you're not bouncing between apps all day.

[Josh]

Payments, inventory, team stuff. All connected.

[Andy]

Yes. And you can take payments anywhere, track sales automatically, manage your team, and actually see what's working in your business.

[Josh]

It just simplifies everything precisely.

[Andy]

It's not just this point of sale. It's the system that keeps your business running smoothly behind the scene.

[Josh]

And you see it everywhere.

[Andy]

Yes. Think about your favorite local spot, coffee shop, barbershop, whatever. The ones using Square always feel faster and more dialed in.

[Josh]

That's not random.

[Andy]

No, it's because everything is connected and easy to use. Less chaos, more focus on the customer.

[Josh]

If you're starting a business or running one that deserves better tools, Square helps you sell, manage and grow without slowing down.

[Andy]

Right now, you can get up to $200 off square hardware at squ square.com go ninjas.

[Josh]

That's s q u a r e dot com. Go slash ninjas.

[Andy]

Run your business smarter with Square and get started today.

[Josh]

Don't be a square. Use it.

[Andy]

Oh, I like that.

[Josh]

Everything in life keeps upgrading.

[Andy]

Yeah, I mean, your phone's like a supercomputer. Cars are parking themselves, but somehow razors

[Josh]

are still stuck in the 2008s.

[Andy]

Exactly. That's why I switch to Harry's Plus. It actually feels like an upgrade.

[Josh]

Andy, what stood out first to you?

[Andy]

First shave. Super smooth. The pivoting head helps you hit every angle. And it doesn't clog up like most drugstore razors.

[Josh]

And that's a big one.

[Andy]

Yeah. And the blades are legit, German engineered, honed at three angles so it cuts clean without tugging.

[Josh]

And the handle, well, it feels different.

[Andy]

It is. It's their heaviest metal handle, so you get more control and it just feels more solid and in your hand.

[Josh]

And it doesn't cost a ton.

[Andy]

That's the best part. They're their own factory, so there's no middleman. And refills are still cheaper than the other guys.

[Josh]

Plus, it's risk free, folks.

[Andy]

Yeah, if you don't love it, they'll make it right. No questions asked.

[Josh]

For a limited time, our listeners can get a Harry's plus trial set for only $10 at Harry's.comninjas.

[Andy]

this set includes the all new Harry's plus razor. One refined five blade cartridge, a two ounce foaming shave gel and a travel cover to protect your blades on the go.

[Josh]

Just head to harry's.comninjas to claim this offer.

[Andy]

And after your purchase they'll ask you where you heard about them. You know, please support the show. Tell them we sent you.

[Josh]

Harry.

[Andy]

You've met Harry, right?

[Josh]

Oh, I've met Harry.

[Andrew]

How is it that every device we own still needs a different charger?

[Andy]

It makes no sense. Phones, headphones, watch, candles. It's a whole bag of cords.

[Josh]

It's 2006.

[Andrew]

We got AI but we're still under tangling cables at the airport.

[Andy]

That's why it's actually useful. Rich, fix it.

[Josh]

The Ridge 5 in 1 travel power bank.

[Andy]

One power bank built in cables and it charges everything at once. No extra cords.

[Andrew]

What does it cover?

[Andy]

Mag safe, wireless charging, Apple Watch charger, Lightning, usb C all built in.

[Andrew]

That's everything?

[Andy]

Yeah, it's not slow either. 20 watts of power plus a 10000mAh battery. So you gotta get up to three full phone chargers charges.

[Andrew]

And you can just keep it attached to your phone?

[Andy]

Yeah, it's MagSafe compatible. So it snaps right on the back if you want constant charge.

[Josh]

And it's built like their wallets.

[Andy]

Exactly. Durable, clean design. And it comes with free shipping, a 99 day risk free trial and a lifetime warranty.

[Andrew]

One thing to pack five ways to power.

[Josh]

You can find Ridges Power bank at Best Buy or our listeners can get 10% off at rage.com using code NINJAS at checkout.

[Andy]

Just head to rich.com and use code Ninjas and you're all set.

[Josh]

And after your purchase they'll ask you where'd you hear about us? Please support our show and tell them that we sent you. Thank you.

[Andrew]

Little R2D2 in that.

[Josh]

Let me go pee real quick.

[Andy]

All right, have fun.

[Lily]

But I knew you had to pee. Oh, Unagi, would you call him?

[Andy]

I want.

[Andrew]

What did you say?

[Andy]

I don't think you're allowed to say that anymore.

[Lily]

Unagi from oh, Friends.

[Andy]

You know Friends.

[Josh]

I don't understand.

[Andy]

Oh my gosh, is he your lobster?

[Lily]

Ross has Unagi he with Monica.

[Josh]

Oh, right.

[Andrew]

Okay. Oh, I wonder if I took her isolated vocal channel for the question and ran it through GarageBand's auto tune what it would do.

[Lily]

What would it sound like? Would it sound good?

[Andrew]

You ever see like where comedians will like sing but the mic they hand to the crowd is all auto tune. They try to like sing with people.

[Lily]

Oh, that's so funny.

[Andrew]

I wonder if I did that to you after singing the first one, if it would sound like you were singing the whole question.

[Andy]

What can we do to prank Josh while he's gone?

[Lily]

Gosh.

[Andy]

Just stick up that knife in the couch. Sits on it.

[Andrew]

My brain, my. A lot of stuff we should never do. Just flash through my brain.

[Lily]

We should get a whoopee cushion. Somebody order a whoopee cushion, stat.

[Andy]

She comes over here.

[Andrew]

Just get the death whistle and blast it.

[Andy]

At some point, do. Whenever he walks in, do your best Josh impression. Like, just fully. Just fully commit to it.

[Andrew]

Where's a headband?

[Andy]

Oh, yeah. I don't know. Just hold the gun in your hand. What is. What are your favorite Josh. Josh Isms?

[Lily]

I like his magic tricks.

[Andy]

He's pretty good. He needs to get some more. He needs to start building his repertoire.

[Lily]

He's a really good repertoire. I don't know if you've seen the full show

[Andy]

impression.

[Lily]

This is my show now. This is my show now.

[Andy]

I don't. I try to stop it, man. I don't know what happened.

[Lily]

Sit down. Go sit down.

[Andy]

How the turntables. That was pretty good, dude.

[Josh]

Thanks. I watched a lot of stuff on Tick Tock.

[Andy]

We should try this.

[Lily]

We grip on it.

[Andy]

We should try that with a real loaded gun. As soon as you go to grab it.

[Josh]

All right. We got a lot to talk about.

[Andy]

Do we?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

I thought it was kind of a light week. No, no.

[Lily]

We saw Marty supreme last night.

[Andy]

Marty Supreme. What is your rating?

[Lily]

Oh, I thought it was awesome.

[Andy]

Awesome. That's not a rating.

[Lily]

I just screwed this up. I'm so mad about it. It's going to take me forever.

[Josh]

I give it a 7.9 out of 10.

[Lily]

Yeah. I would say. Yeah. I was super anxious the whole time.

[Andy]

Worth the watch. Should I go out of my way to watch it?

[Josh]

Inappropriate.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Appropriate, but a fun story. It's very. Just stressful.

[Andy]

Yeah. Is it based on a real person?

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

I don't think any of that stuff happened.

[Josh]

I don't think it's a real story, but I think it's a real person.

[Andy]

Yeah. And they just kind of went crazy with it.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Yeah. That's fun.

[Lily]

There's a really funny, silly twist at the end.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

I also haven't seen the Weird Al Yankovic movie where Daniel Radcliffe plays Weird Al, and I've heard that one's really fun because it's based on Weird Al, but then, like, they just completely go crazy with, like. Yeah, it's like he's like dating Madonna at one point or something. Like, it's craziness.

[Josh]

Do you guys see Justin Bieber at Coachella?

[Andy]

Yes. I wanna. I'm gonna do it today. I want to edit him. Watching our podcast and so, like, he's just sitting there.

[Josh]

He was on stage and he was just scrolling, watching YouTube videos.

[Andy]

It was so fun.

[Andrew]

He was a quoting on state.

[Josh]

Like, yeah, it was his performance and he. I ended up singing.

[Andy]

Yeah, he did some of his old

[Josh]

songs, but, like, karaoke for the first a good couple minutes. He literally had his laptop hooked up to the big screen and he's just like, typing double rainbow guy, watching, like

[Andy]

a bunch of meme videos. And it's the funniest thing in the world. The dude doesn't care.

[Josh]

He doesn't care. And I'm amazing.

[Andy]

And everyone still loves him for it.

[Josh]

He's like, you guys are all here for me. I'm just gonna watch YouTube.

[Andrew]

What?

[Andy]

Like, see, where's the difference? Like, what level is he at? Because now if you have somebody that comes on stage, it's like a band, and they just like, you know, 50% their. You know, like, they just give nothing to the crowd and people boo them.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

And it's terrible. But yet he's on a level.

[Josh]

Another level where he just like, whoa, he's cool. Wow.

[Lily]

Is kind of a meme.

[Andrew]

Is it actually being received well?

[Andy]

Yeah, it's like, it's funny. Like, it's not like people are like, oh, wow, he's a genius. It's just like, of course he would do this. Like how he performed at the Grammys in boxers. Yeah, that was like. That's like insane.

[Andrew]

That was super.

[Andy]

Like, somebody coming for the dressing room. Like, hey, you're on in five. Get ready.

[Josh]

I know.

[Andy]

Question mark.

[Josh]

I know. Yeah, yeah, it was crazy.

[Andy]

Super funny. But yeah. We should go to Coachella, dude. Why haven't we gotten Coachella?

[Andrew]

How much are the tickets?

[Lily]

It's got to be sin and debauchery.

[Josh]

Yeah, I would say so.

[Andy]

Yeah. It'd be terrible.

[Josh]

I think it's just crazy, crazy, crazy expensive. You see those people that on TikTok, they're like, they do the camping, the glamping.

[Andy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Josh]

And they bring, like, couches and beds and chandeliers and, like, lamps, like, and they like, literally. It's the craziest thing. Good on them.

[Andy]

I mean. Yeah, for sure. But it's like, really comfortable. You're constantly having to one up that each year, though. That's the crazy thing is, like, you're trying to compete, like, who has the coolest thing. It's like that's not fun. I mean, I'm sure it is. If you can afford that and go with all your friends. I'm sure it's fun.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Who knows?

[Josh]

Hey, we got an update.

[Andy]

What?

[Josh]

You know those scientists then people that are going missing connected to the NASA, the NASA jet propulsion. Well, this one didn't just go missing. He. But they're just like. I guess people are just like connecting the dots now. Like, this is weird that a lot of people are dying that are part of this one very specific program.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

This guy, scientists. Michael David hicks, died in 2023. But people are now just discovering it because his death wasn't announced, not even a cause of death. He just. They just said he died.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

That's the end of it. Okay, so that's the ninth person with the NAS NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory that has gone missing or has died.

[Andy]

It's a dangerous business.

[Josh]

It's weird.

[Andy]

It's very weird.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

It's like, what is going on? Yeah, well, something's going on.

[Andy]

Something. I mean, maybe it's just innocent. Maybe they're just having accidents.

[Andrew]

Okay, let's. Let's go, like, not. Do you have a theory you're about to get into, or can I, like,

[Josh]

I mean, I. I've maybe broad theories, but nothing.

[Andrew]

It's like, what if it wasn't completely nefarious, right? Like, what if there's a technology and like, let's say it involves some sort of radiation and at some point they're like, if we do. If these people die, natural deaths, normal autopsies, like the amount of radiation they're exposed to, like, the fact that there is this kind of radiation would give away what it is that we're using to propel.

[Andy]

But that would mean they're being murdered, Right?

[Andrew]

Unless they were aware that that's a.

[Josh]

That's.

[Andrew]

This is the research we're in, this is what we're doing, and this is how we're gonna have to go at some point.

[Josh]

I think it's a giant cover up.

[Andrew]

Sure.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

But I mean, I'm pretty confident it's a giant cover up.

[Andy]

Yeah. Especially now that we're learning about this guy three years ago. Later on, obviously there's something going on because it's just. I mean, how does that happen? That's. What is it, nine people now?

[Josh]

Yeah, nine. And there's no cause of death for this man.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Where are the families?

[Josh]

Like, that's what I'm saying.

[Andy]

Oh, they're being silenced or something. Paid off like crazy, I bet. Or NDAs. They probably maybe sign NDAs. I was like, your whole family has to sign NDAs. I don't know how that works, but.

[Andrew]

Yeah, because if. If NDAs would work, then they wouldn't have to off the people. You know what I mean?

[Josh]

No, not necessarily. There's that story that we talked about a long time ago of the CIA, like how the CIA was doing the MK Ultra stuff to that one dude and. Or there it was the beginning of it. And they would lace his stuff with acid.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And then all of a sudden, he, like, figured something out, and then he died from supposedly jumping out the window of a hotel. Ran through the window. But when the cops got there, they're

[Andrew]

like, it looks like some.

[Josh]

They threw him out the window.

[Lily]

Oh, my gosh.

[Josh]

And then when the family went after the CIA and we're going to sue them, they said, we'll pay this much. We'll do this. Because sign NDA.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

You can't talk about it anymore.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And so they did.

[Andy]

Yeah. I mean, that stuff definitely happens still today. Imagine, like 5,000 years ago when people didn't have digital footprints like they do now. Like, how easy it was to, like, you know, like, to recruit somebody for a specific, you know, like, oh, we know you went to this school. We're going to adopt you right now. Just come in our program, we'll train you, and if you need to get rid of this guy, you just get rid of him.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

There's no paper trail now. It's got to be so difficult because everyone's online, mostly everybody. And so you're leaving this paper trail. People know who you are, at least where you work, and you're like, oh, man, I'm working at NASA. This is exciting. Like, oh, yeah, you know. You know, Eddie, we went to school. Yeah, I just saw you went to NASA. Like, it's like, it's getting more difficult. So the ways they have to cover up things or hide information has got to get. There's got to be a method to it now.

[Josh]

Yeah. Well, speaking of digital footprint.

[Lily]

Wait, hold on a second.

[Andy]

Oh, hold it.

[Lily]

Speaking of suspicious deaths, have we ever talked about how two White House chefs died by drowning?

[Andy]

I don't think we ever have, but it is wild.

[Lily]

Clintons and the Obamas.

[Andy]

Chefs, very weird on their properties, didn't they?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

And I wonder what they were cooking.

[Josh]

They're cooking up some theories.

[Lily]

Died by drowning?

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

That's crazy. That's. That can't be a coincidence.

[Lily]

No. Young Health.

[Josh]

How many chefs die by drowning?

[Andy]

It's like, everyone. We look it up, it's like, that's number one. That's.

[Josh]

It's like over 90, actually.

[Lily]

Like, there's like, people.

[Andy]

Never mind.

[Lily]

Can't swim.

[Josh]

You love the water, apparently, yeah.

[Andy]

If you can't stand the water, get out of the kitchen.

[Lily]

That's weird.

[Josh]

And they don't. They didn't really investigate.

[Lily]

It's like pizza time with those guys.

[Andy]

Okay, all right, all right.

[Josh]

It's crazy.

[Andy]

Possibly. I mean, yeah, there's. It's looking at me like that.

[Josh]

Just. Josh, come on.

[Andy]

Can you get it?

[Josh]

Digital footprint.

[Lily]

You get what I'm saying?

[Josh]

Yeah, I got what you're saying. All right. I got it.

[Andy]

Got it.

[Josh]

We got it.

[Andy]

The dots have been connected.

[Josh]

We're not going to continue, though.

[Andy]

Okay, fine. Move on.

[Josh]

Digital. You messed me up, dude. Threw them off digital footprint.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Josh]

Did you hear? About what? The ca. This new tech that they have?

[Andy]

No, no.

[Josh]

They can literally find anyone on earth with this tech.

[Lily]

Oh, gosh.

[Andy]

Anyone?

[Josh]

I think so.

[Andy]

Okay, how?

[Josh]

Because did you hear about that pilot? The U.S. pilot that his plane got down in Iran? There's two pilots.

[Andy]

I saw a video of, like, people going after, trying to find a guy.

[Josh]

Okay, so there's two pilots, fighter pilots, in Iran. They're both. Their planes got taken down. The other one was able to get saved super quick. The other one? Manhunt. They didn't know where he was.

[Lily]

Oh, no.

[Josh]

In Iran, they put out, I think it was a 50,000. 50 to 60 thousand dollar reward to anyone who could find this pilot. And so there was thousands of people. Yeah, military, police, civilians, out in the wilderness looking for this pilot.

[Andy]

So scary.

[Josh]

And this dude was hiding in the mountains, and then the CIA, they found him. Do you know how they found them? Which I don't know why they even said this.

[Lily]

Wi fi.

[Josh]

No. This new tech called the Ghost Murmur. Oh. It can track your biometric data, your heartbeat, echolocation up to 40 miles away. They found him 40 miles away in the wilderness. They signaled in his exact heartbeat and could pinpoint exactly where he was.

[Andy]

Oh, now how does that work? They knew his stuff, and so they.

[Josh]

The biometric data, and so they compared it to. They ran it through their own AI program. So they sent out basically this pulse thing to track everyone's heartbeat. Found his heartbeat, or they threw it through AI. AI found his exact biometric heartbeat. Like, this is exactly where he's at. And they went in and they got him.

[Andy]

Now are like, heartbeat, like. Are you talking like heartbeats are like, almost like fingerprints? Like for people like, that's kind of

[Josh]

like what they're making it sound like.

[Andy]

This is crazy.

[Josh]

Yeah. It's called the ghost murmur.

[Andy]

But does this not make sense of why we're pushing to have all this biometric data on Americans? Like a wearable watches, aura rings.

[Josh]

Aura rings. And this is crazy.

[Andy]

And if they're able to track people and track your whole health, you know, like whole health.

[Josh]

Find anyone.

[Lily]

That is so.

[Andy]

That is. That is. Blows my mind. I've never even thought that was possible.

[Lily]

Why was he hiding? He was hiding because he didn't want the.

[Josh]

He was in enemy territory. He was in Iran.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And they have to get him.

[Andy]

Dude, what a movie though.

[Josh]

It's like Left Behind.

[Lily]

I know.

[Josh]

Not left behind. Behind Enemy lines.

[Andy]

Yeah, true. Yeah, that's true.

[Josh]

Not Kirk Cameron.

[Andy]

But I do like the idea like of a movie wise, like where it's like even civilians, everyone's like a bounties out there get them. Like that's a crazy premise.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Dude, that's so scary.

[Josh]

Yeah. So they just like let it slip. They didn't even let it slip. They said we use this new technology.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Ghost murmur to biometrically track his heartbeat. Ran it through our AI system and found him.

[Lily]

That's so.

[Andy]

I mean. Yeah.

[Josh]

40 miles away.

[Andy]

I mean, I don't comprehend how they do that. I don't understand how that's even possible.

[Lily]

I guess I just always suspected that already exists.

[Josh]

Yeah, I guess. But I mean, sounds so sci fi. Like, oh, yeah, maybe that exists. But that'd be crazy.

[Andy]

Right?

[Andrew]

In the desert, right?

[Josh]

Like he was in a mountain crevice. He was hiding in like a crevice of a mountain.

[Andy]

Yeah, but you think like, just like when you think of heartbeats, you're like, okay. It's just the only thing you track is simply just beats per minute.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

But there's layers to it that like signify who it actually is. It gives like a unique identity. That's wild.

[Lily]

That is crazy. Wow. But it's kind of just like echolocation. Have you ever heard of like how your WI fi router can give data as to like how your.

[Andy]

The topography of like a zone layout stuff.

[Andrew]

Yeah, we've talked about it.

[Josh]

Let me read.

[Andy]

That would be phones and stuff. Anything compatible. Like, you're like. I mean, that would make sense. Like, okay, we need you watch so you can. We could track where you're going and then you have your phone and then you obviously have. Okay. Alexa has to be stagnant in one place in your house. Like you're. It's. And then if you have all that information that comes together, the stuff that you can just compile from that.

[Lily]

You know what's like, really scary about this thought with the ghost murmur is that when AI takes over, we can't hide.

[Andy]

No, no, like, like Andrew said like last episode about just like you, there's no off grid. Like, there's nothing you could possibly do now.

[Josh]

Yeah, but.

[Andy]

But they have to get your debt data first.

[Lily]

Oh, they got it. Dude, I've been to Advent Health 800 times.

[Andy]

I know, but like, there's some people that are probably off grid that it's gonna be like, how are they getting. How are they getting that stuff?

[Lily]

I bet that's maybe 150 people.

[Andrew]

You can't have a smartphone or be around people that do. Like, the TikTok agreement is like, if we're on the same network and you sign the agreement, then it doesn't matter that I don't have TikTok. They're accessing everything on the network.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Here, let me describe how it works in a better way.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Josh]

The description from leaks reporting is this is it detects the electromagnetic signal of the human heartbeat. Uses quantum magnetometry. Uses quantum magnetometry. Extremely sensitive sensors. Filters the noises through AI can reportedly work from miles away, even 40 miles away in ideal conditions. Sources describe it like hearing a single voice in a stadium. Except the stadium is a thousand square miles.

[Lily]

Oh my goodness.

[Andy]

That's bonkers. Like, what world are we living in? This is crazy.

[Josh]

That's crazy.

[Andy]

I mean, this is blowing my mind.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

The ghost murmur. Dude, what a good name.

[Josh]

Great name.

[Andy]

Good name.

[Andrew]

So I looked up quantum mag magnetometry, but it says how the device works at a quantum level. Certain partic like electrons and atomic nuclei act like tiny magnets because of a property called spin. Preparing atoms or defects in a known quantum state, letting an external magnetic field slightly change that state and then measuring that change precisely. That's how that works. But how in the freak from 40 miles away is some sort of quantum measurement? Like, yeah, that's magnetic is what they just said. Oh my God, a magnet 40 miles away.

[Josh]

That's insane.

[Lily]

What is this doing to our health?

[Andy]

Making it better probably.

[Josh]

Probably making us live longer.

[Andy]

Immortal.

[Lily]

Hey guys, we last time we filled with Jake filmed.

[Josh]

Say that one more time.

[Lily]

We filmed with Jake.

[Josh]

We last time we filmed it with Jake.

[Lily]

Everybody take a breath. His like energy diagram.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Has been sent with me.

[Andy]

Explain like, what. What's sticking out to you? I mean, it does make sense on paper. Which it was on paper.

[Lily]

Yeah, but it makes a lot of sense.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Just that, like, there's not enough energy to go around to be shared.

[Andy]

And that's why I don't know if I. Do you think God would create more energy, though? Like you create more of what we need?

[Lily]

Well, part of what I was thinking too is that like, energy cannot be created or destroyed, but energy is, I guess, created with. With people, new people.

[Andy]

So God can't create more energy?

[Lily]

No, he can't.

[Andy]

Is that what you're saying?

[Lily]

He can.

[Andy]

But you just said they couldn't be created. You said.

[Josh]

You just said. Stop fighting, Jake.

[Andrew]

I love you.

[Andy]

What do you think this show's about, dude? Fighting?

[Andrew]

Yeah, it's better content.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Is it attack?

[Lily]

Okay, listen, a lot of people in the comments said that they're sensing tension between Josh and I. We love each other.

[Josh]

Oh, we absolutely love each other. But we love to fight.

[Andy]

Yeah, you guys love each other. You guys love each other.

[Andrew]

The reason Jake's theory makes no sense to me and I love you, Jake, dearly. But things which we perceive to have absolutely no energy are fully charged like a rock. Like the people being created are consuming things to be created. We're the regeneration of energy. So, like, if I eat a steak, I am now that cow's manifestation of

[Josh]

its previous energy manifestation. Destiny. Yep.

[Andy]

The essence of manifestation.

[Josh]

We both messed up. All right, back on back onto AI. Okay, you hear about Anthropic's new AI model?

[Andy]

I feel like I'm out of the loop for some reason. No, I haven't heard. I haven't heard of this.

[Lily]

What is Anthropic? What do they own?

[Josh]

Just an. They're an AI company.

[Lily]

Okay.

[Josh]

They created a new AI model and they basically ran tests and they're like, oh, we can't release this to the public.

[Andy]

Okay. I heard an inkling about this.

[Josh]

This is too dangerous.

[Lily]

Oh.

[Josh]

What it did is it's a risk to cybersecurity. And so in fact, like all the head honches of Wall street, the big dudes.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Had a. Had to do a emergency meeting called by Anthropic. And Anthropic's like, listen, we are going to release this, but you. We're going to give you guys time to build up your cybersecurity better because we ran Anthropic, our new system, and it was able to penetrate all of your systems.

[Lily]

Oh, no.

[Josh]

Like that.

[Andy]

That just right off the get go.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

As soon as they created it, they

[Josh]

said it was able to find, like, what. How to just, like, find issues with every cybersecurity. Like, every cybersecurity issue, this AI was able to find it, which no other model, no other human has ever been able to find.

[Lily]

Oh, my word.

[Josh]

And so it's like, they're saying it's like one of the most powerful AIs release in regards to cybersecurity and the threat.

[Lily]

That could be a cool tool for helping button up your cyber security problems.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

As long as it doesn't go in the opposite direction.

[Andy]

Yeah. But it seems like the type of thing where it's like, I'm gonna burn your house down. And after the house is burned down, I'll show you, like, how I did it. And, like, what, you can do better next time. Yeah, it's too late, man.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

But, like, it's just like, I am

[Josh]

gonna release this fire and your house might get burnt down.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

So prepare for that.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And if it does get burned down now, you know what to do later.

[Andy]

And I know, well, that's not fun.

[Josh]

I don't want to do that.

[Andy]

And I know your house has a certain vulnerability spot, and it's really. It's really important that you take care of it. Okay. Could you point out where that is? I. I can't.

[Josh]

Wish I could, buddy. Golly.

[Andy]

You could just tell me you think you're mad.

[Josh]

I'm mad.

[Andy]

All right.

[Josh]

I have to do this.

[Andy]

I have to bring your house down now.

[Josh]

But, yeah, they're kind of like, showing the creators of this AI system, they're just like this. We didn't expect it to do this.

[Andy]

So it's not being released at all now?

[Josh]

No, it is. It is, but not yet.

[Andy]

See, this is what's scary. It's like, what is. What's the next level when it falls down and crumbles? It's like, is this banking systems? I mean, people losing money?

[Andrew]

Sure.

[Josh]

It's going to be the banking. That's. That's the threat of this.

[Andy]

That's terrifying.

[Josh]

It's like, dude, if this company. US Based company, Anthropic, That's a. I think they're publicly traded.

[Andy]

If the US Company.

[Josh]

Yeah, if they can do it, you know, China, you know, Russia or whoever, they already have an AI system that's getting ready to be at that same level.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Where they can just destroy our cybersecurity 100%.

[Andy]

And even if it was America, they could easily just blame China and just say, oh, look what China did to us. Guys, you got to fight them now.

[Josh]

I Guess we got to go to war.

[Andy]

And I didn't want to go to war. And we just looked at our debt. For some reason, it's now at zero, which is weird because all your money's gone, but our debt's gone as well.

[Josh]

Anyways, guys, that's April 15th, so you got to pay your taxes.

[Andrew]

Listen how scary this is. This is by Evan Gorlick. He's like, minor writer for the New York Times. They have like a little piece called the Morning, and it was shared by a senior writer named Sam Sift. And so for everyone who says we don't give references, there you go.

[Josh]

Boom.

[Andrew]

But so this guy, he's referencing one of the. What's the. We're talking about anthropic. Anthropic. So they have like a general purpose AI mythos, which is, like, within it. But apparently the dude set up a test. He was trying to run it to see if it could get out of the closed network that it was on. It was supposed to be.

[Josh]

Gained access to it.

[Andrew]

It wasn't supposed to be online. He was. He went to the park, was eating his lunch, and got an email from it. And it wasn't supposed to be online anywhere. So it figured out on its own how to find the Internet out of a closed system.

[Josh]

Yeah, that's the creepy thing, that it did get access to the Internet for a bit.

[Andy]

I will never understand how.

[Andrew]

Here's what's crazy.

[Andy]

I'll never understand it.

[Andrew]

We've contained it. Explain to me how you put the thing back in the bottle.

[Josh]

That's what I'm saying. Maybe that's why they held the emergency meeting, because it's already out. Because from what I've been told, which I could be, one of them was from the Y files. If it can. If an AI model can get access to the Internet, it's.

[Andrew]

It's gone.

[Josh]

It's kind of like the.

[Andy]

Yeah. Because it backs up somewhere, like, where you can't find it.

[Josh]

Transcendent.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Now here's the other thing, which this could all be like some weird, like, let's make everyone scared of AI So they think they need AI Some weird play. Because I tried to find that author. My mother in law shared that article with me. It is a New York Times email that sends it out. But when I try to find the minor authors that are referencing these stories, I can't find them. And like literally anywhere on the Internet, and they're like, oh, it might just be like a new writer or a minor writer, but I'm Like. Or a completely made up person in stories.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Maybe it wrote it about itself.

[Josh]

It's like, I'm here. Ooh. What if it was just, like, it went on the Internet and instantly, like, went to YouTube and, like, got caught, like, watching, like, Outdoor boys or something? Like, hey, look at you. It's like, oh, no. Oh, no, no, Wait, wait, let me finish it. Or fish13.

[Andy]

Yeah, everyone go follow fish13 on YouTube.

[Lily]

Fish13.

[Josh]

He's that South Korean man that does the camping, like, the ASMR camping stuff.

[Andy]

It's the best.

[Lily]

Yeah. Pretty cool.

[Andy]

That's crazy, dude. I still will never understand how AI works and how it has a mind of its own. Like, I don't get it. Like, because obviously ChatGPT is the lowest of the low, I think of, like, of what AI actually is.

[Josh]

Yeah. It's. I mean, because it's just. It's user friendly.

[Andy]

Yeah. But I mean, I. I'm a dumbo when it comes to this stuff, and it's just so scary because it's gonna. It's gonna. Gonna keep getting better.

[Josh]

We need to watch the Matrix again together.

[Andy]

I've never. Because I've seen the first one, but I've never seen the other ones. And I. Yeah, I think there's.

[Josh]

But just, like, how far ahead the author was that lady who wrote it talking about AI takes over the world.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

How do you come up with something like that?

[Josh]

That's what I'm saying.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Back then. Yeah. When it was such a distant reality.

[Josh]

It's crazy.

[Andy]

When it was truly like, that's sci fi.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Was that what gave the idea? Or is there some type of, like, premonition or information that she was privy to or.

[Josh]

We talked about signs of it, but we need to look back at that.

[Andy]

Yeah. It's wild, man.

[Andrew]

I don't like it either way.

[Josh]

Yeah. Spooky. No one else is also spooky.

[Lily]

Tell me.

[Josh]

We talked about him last week. Tim Burchett. Or maybe the week before.

[Andy]

Yeah, the alien guy.

[Josh]

The. Yeah, the congressman. Congressman. I just saw another interview with him, which he would be fantastic on this podcast.

[Lily]

Oh, I just love the way he talks, dude.

[Andy]

As soon as Pam Bondi was released with, like, as soon as she got fired within the hour, we sent her a dm, like, hey, come on. The show.

[Josh]

And she didn't look at it the

[Andy]

best, but maybe this guy will.

[Josh]

Here's hope. Tim Burchett, he was being interviewed again, and he's like, just going on. He's like, I mean, this disclosure stuff is like, it's in. It's crazy. It's wild. And he talked to some of the people that were, like, on the debating within the White House to release it.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

They're like, tim, we're not going to release it because it's anti Christian.

[Lily]

Anti Christian.

[Andy]

What are we doing?

[Josh]

And he said, no, it's not. He said. He said, I believe God created the heavens of the earth, so somehow this is involved. He said, it needs to be released.

[Andy]

And, hey, so the truth is anti Christian, guys. But he said, what we found is anti Christian.

[Josh]

But it's like that group. We talked about it a while ago. It's that group within the government, like the 12. Tim Albarino talks about them quite a bit.

[Lily]

The 12. Something.

[Josh]

Something like that. I forget. But it's basically like these politicians that are ultra religious and they know the truth about aliens, and they're like, no, they're just all demons. That's why we're not going to talk about it or release it.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And so it kind of sounds something in the vein of that where it's like, yeah. Where they're saying, we're not going to release it because it's anti Christian. It could destroy religion. It's like Tim Burchett's like, no, it can't. No, it won't.

[Andy]

How we do. How we do you think we are?

[Josh]

Yeah. And so apparently he said, hopefully some things will be coming out soon.

[Andrew]

That's what he said.

[Josh]

So. But he's pushing it so hard and, dude, you could see it on his face. There's something.

[Lily]

Oh, no.

[Josh]

Something spooky.

[Andy]

Now I want to know.

[Lily]

I wonder if they're coming from the vein of, like, if it. If it is proving to be, like, demonic or something like that. How it will, I guess, in a sense, give demons, like, some kind of elevation or like a platform. In a sense, kind of.

[Josh]

I don't think they'd.

[Lily]

They wouldn't do that.

[Andrew]

I don't think so.

[Lily]

Like, how Seraphim Rose is kind of like, stop looking into this stuff because it's just a deception.

[Josh]

Yeah. I don't think they're.

[Lily]

You don't think they think that way?

[Josh]

I don't know.

[Lily]

All right.

[Josh]

I would. No, I. I don't think so.

[Lily]

What do you think it is?

[Josh]

I don't know. I really don't. Them saying that just. I don't know. Maybe they lose control over if this information was released to the public. Because Tim Burchett also said in that past interview, he said it would throw the world into Chaos. If this stuff that I've seen is fully released.

[Andy]

That's what I've always said. It's like, if it truly confirms, like, there's something out there that's bigger than and scarier than the government and then makes us all realize probably that.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

That the world. We can't. We don't. Why are we just going 9 to 5? Why are we listening to these people? Why are we like, the world is so much bigger than we realize and there is an afterlife. All these things like that. Like, why would people conform?

[Josh]

It would probably be like that, in that vein to where it's like, we don't want to release it because it would cause chaos rioting.

[Lily]

Okay.

[Josh]

People stop paying their taxes.

[Lily]

Follow me on this journey.

[Josh]

Maybe we should disclose this stuff.

[Lily]

I heard someone talking about. Don't get mad.

[Andy]

Oh, I ticked off, dude.

[Lily]

Have you heard of the heresy of Gnosticism? It's basically just like the physical world is bad. Everything physical, everything about our environment is inherently bad. And everything spiritual is good. And it's very perpetuated by, like, kind of the charismatic. Whatever. There was this one person a while ago. I'm gonna butcher this, but a person a while ago was talking about how the powers that be, they are excited about, like, evangelical charismatic groups going out on mission to the world and promoting this. Because basically what it does is it gives you, like, paralysis because you're like, well, everything around me is bad and the spiritual is good. So I need to live for the spiritual, which is a truth. That is a truth. But also we live in a world created by God and there is beauty around us. Right. So it's like a. Like a misunderstood truth in a sense, when it's so black and white like that. But when other groups who do not promote the heresy of Gnosticism go out into the world, they revolutionize the country and people start to revolt against their oppression. Does that make sense?

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

So maybe that's what these guys are talking about.

[Josh]

I see.

[Lily]

It'll burst their bubble.

[Josh]

It'll burst the bubble and be like, what's the point? Why are we living like this?

[Lily]

In fact, why am I paying so much in taxes?

[Josh]

Because there's a freaking ship with aliens on it right there and they control you.

[Lily]

Demons on it. Yeah. Or something. I don't know.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Anyway, did that make sense also, I

[Andy]

think, why do we allow these evil people to continue to run our lives and tell us what to do and what to think?

[Lily]

No, I know, but. But do you get what I'm saying? In a sense, like these people that believe in Gnosticism, they're like, well, the world is inherently evil anyway, and so I don't. I can't do anything about it.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

But there is beauty in our created world. We get to see God's love for us in all of the creation around us. So stop paying your taxes.

[Andy]

So in. In theory.

[Josh]

In theory, I'm pretty sure that we were kind of mentioned subliminally on Jesse Michaels podcast with Tim Alberino.

[Andy]

What? We were.

[Josh]

I think this could just be me being whatever.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Like, thinking that's helpful. But Tim Alberti, they were talking about aliens and stuff. And, like, they're some Christians claiming they're demons, that they're interdimensional. And then they just, like, went off on this tangent of, like. But when they say that. When these people say that, they don't even know what they're saying. And Jesse Michael's like, yeah. He's like, there's this podcast I really love and they're Christians and they say that stuff, but I don't think they really understand what that means.

[Andrew]

I'm like, I'm pretty sure.

[Lily]

Talking about.

[Andrew]

So hold on, hold on. Christian podcast. And they have no idea.

[Josh]

And you're like, that's me.

[Andy]

They got to be talking about us.

[Lily]

That's great.

[Josh]

We got Shout out because we don't know what we're talking about. We don't.

[Andy]

We're just talking.

[Josh]

We're just normal people guessing a lot of stuff. But we do know about Jesus and we love Jesus, and that's the truth of us all.

[Lily]

Yes.

[Andy]

Yeah. No denying that.

[Josh]

That thing we know. Interdimensional aliens. We don't know.

[Lily]

Up in the air, literally.

[Josh]

Who knows?

[Andy]

Take it or leave it.

[Josh]

But speaking of interdimensional, did you know?

[Andrew]

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[Andy]

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[Andy]

Hi.

[Josh]

How.

[Andrew]

What are we doing?

[Josh]

One word, Andrew.

[Andy]

One word. Going around counterclockwise. Here we go. I don't know what we're talking about.

[Josh]

We don't either, guys.

[Andy]

Worst improv group in the world, by the way. Worst improv group.

[Josh]

They don't put it all on me.

[Andy]

No, I'm saying, like, this would be the. This would be like if this was an improv group and we're on stage. This would be the worst.

[Josh]

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[Andy]

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[Lily]

Order your T shirts for Sunday Cool.

[Andy]

Dang it. Lily.

[Josh]

I found the clip of Jesse Michaels. You guys want to hear it?

[Andy]

Let's hear.

[Josh]

All right. Or they say, oh, it's spiritual. It's like. And then you ask them one follow. It means nothing. It means nothing. It means nothing. It means. It means movie reference. Yeah, yeah.

[Andy]

Or it means it's a.

[Josh]

Their political polemic on what it is. So often if somebody says it's spiritual, they're Kind of saying it's demonic. Yes.

[Andy]

And you hear this with certain Christian

[Josh]

podcasters, some of whom I'm a huge fan of, but they'll say. They'll use this line. They'll say, I think it's spiritual. I think it's kind of dark. And then they won't, like. They won't touch it. And it's like, okay, fine. But, like, what is an angel? What is a demon? Like, we should try to investigate this. I figured that was us.

[Andy]

I hope so. I hope so. Because he is a fan of the pod, right?

[Josh]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Andy]

So.

[Lily]

So I'm honored to push back a little. We do talk about it. We do talk about it.

[Andrew]

That was my hold up.

[Josh]

Yeah, we do.

[Andy]

Are we gonna fight Jesse Michaels and Timothy Albarino, guys?

[Josh]

Yeah, I think so.

[Andy]

I think they just challenged us to a duel.

[Lily]

Spankin tunnel.

[Josh]

But he did use about three words. I didn't understand.

[Andy]

They were made up.

[Lily]

What do you say, polaric or something?

[Josh]

Something like that.

[Lily]

Political polaric.

[Andy]

Yeah, it's like.

[Lily]

What is that alliteration?

[Andy]

Step back.

[Josh]

Is that like, some sort of, like, fancy restaurant or something? Political.

[Andy]

Oh, dude, I love polaric. Her appetizers are phenomenal.

[Josh]

Oh, anyways, did you know that it's a question?

[Lily]

I stole this question from a gentleman named Lachlan Fairbairn. He's obviously from a wee country across the channel. Shut up. Okay. If your toilet was sentient.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Lily]

Could talk. Had feelings, man. Would you rather it Absolutely love poop time. Give me the poop.

[Josh]

Give me the poop.

[Lily]

Loves poop time. Eager for poop time or despise poop time? Hate it. Lament while you're pooping.

[Andy]

Does it so it talks?

[Lily]

Oh, it talks while you're pooping.

[Andy]

You get to choose the voice.

[Lily]

You can choose the voice, but not the disposition. You're choosing the disposition. There's two options.

[Andy]

Yeah, I get that. But do I get to choose, like, the accent or voice that like.

[Lily]

I didn't think that far, but, yeah, I would say that's fair.

[Josh]

What would you choose?

[Andy]

British villain. He does not like it. Or like. Yeah, I feel like that would be great. Russian or British villain? How dare you do this to me?

[Josh]

So you want to be mad when you poop?

[Andy]

Yeah, I think it'd be funny.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

It would have to be happy when I poop, because I would be.

[Andy]

You don't want to disappoint, because then you're gonna get to the point where you're like, I don't want to disappoint. This Guy again.

[Josh]

So I would choose Eddie Murphy.

[Andy]

Oh, here it comes. I love it. Give me some more. Give me some more. Oh, that was a big one.

[Josh]

Oh, we're in a dual stage.

[Andy]

Imagine David Attenborough being psyched about your poop, bro. That'd be awesome. Another one.

[Josh]

I had no idea.

[Lily]

I see you ate corn on the cob.

[Andrew]

What's the soccer announcer? The guy who's, like, poetically describes the place?

[Josh]

Oh, yeah.

[Andrew]

You know what I'm talking about. Just describing what's coming in, like, in all its glory.

[Josh]

That would be pretty great.

[Andy]

Yeah. I would have Gary Oldman as in the Darkest Hour, Winston Churchill for the movie. That would be. That would be it. And he's just like. He's giving, like, war rants every time I poop.

[Lily]

That's great.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

They come in the night.

[Andy]

They would. He would motivate me, honestly. What would you do?

[Lily]

Yeah, I couldn't do an eager poop toilet.

[Josh]

Not. You'd have to.

[Lily]

He'd have to.

[Josh]

The poop would be mad.

[Lily]

Be mad. Yeah. And I agree. It's British.

[Andy]

Yeah. You have a person in mind that you'd like? A Ken Knightley.

[Josh]

Idris Albo.

[Lily]

It's a boy.

[Andy]

It's a boy.

[Andrew]

Dick Van Dyke.

[Andy]

Potpourri poop Poo pourri.

[Josh]

Poop poop pourri.

[Andy]

Oh, no. Spray that poo pourri all over you. Can I ask the question that Alan sent me this week?

[Lily]

Yes.

[Andy]

It's really good. And we had voice memo fights about it because he was being ridiculous and he's gonna hear this, and I don't care. For one week, you bring an animal of your choice to work with you. It has to do everything that you like. Where you go, it's going, it's with you. For every pound that animal weighs, you get a thousand dollars. So one week, however, if you lose your job because of this or anything happens to the animal, you don't get that money.

[Lily]

Oh, man.

[Andy]

What animal do you bring? Me? Me and Alan both have our answers.

[Lily]

This is a very tolerant work environment.

[Andrew]

That's. Yeah, that's.

[Andy]

That's. That's the thing. And me and Alan have different jobs. His is a lot more corporate.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Ours is a little more laxed. We've had multiple dogs in here.

[Lily]

We used to have a dog that would poop on the mat in the kitchen every day.

[Andy]

Yeah, trash dog. We had trash dogs. We had. We had, like, three or four dogs in here every single day for like, a year or two.

[Lily]

And it was not wise.

[Andy]

It was so fun. Though I loved it. I loved it.

[Josh]

I would say orangutan.

[Andy]

Okay. Never might be. What if it was aggressive? If it breaks somebody's arm, you're fired.

[Josh]

They can't fire me.

[Andrew]

Can I create an environment?

[Andy]

That's probably true, but something you would. They would tell you the animal couldn't be here anymore, and so you would still lose.

[Andrew]

Can I create an environment for the animal to, like, survive in?

[Andy]

If it needs particular things, I mean,

[Josh]

you're gonna bring a whale just stuck in a tank.

[Andy]

It has to go with you. Like it's where you're going. Like it's with you.

[Andrew]

Okay.

[Lily]

Like, even to the bathroom.

[Josh]

A horse.

[Andy]

Oh, that's a good answer. You get kicked in if someone's gonna.

[Josh]

No, I mean, that's a horse.

[Andy]

You have to clean up. The thing about the smell.

[Josh]

All right.

[Lily]

Oh, my gosh. Horse poop, horse pee.

[Josh]

Just make a little stable here.

[Lily]

Stanky. Yeah, that's true. I mean, they will. If you put them in a stable, they'll sit.

[Andy]

Yeah, that's not a bad. That's not a bad one. People will complain, but maybe so be it. Yeah. It's just one week. I said a goat. Giant tortoise.

[Andrew]

Good answer.

[Andy]

Because they weigh, like, four or 500 pounds.

[Josh]

It's a great answer.

[Andrew]

How are you getting that thing?

[Andy]

I easily build just a little tiny wagon, and I just.

[Andrew]

Not with the Honda Trail with.

[Andy]

We got a Denali. We could pick it up back there.

[Lily]

Dang. I feel like that's the only right answer.

[Andy]

I said that or English mastiff. In English mastiff is, like three. It could be, like, up to £300. £200.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

That's a good.

[Lily]

Anyway. You would keep him anyway. Because English mastiffs are, I mean, just amazing.

[Andy]

You want to know what Alan said?

[Lily]

Oh, gosh.

[Andy]

An elephant seal.

[Josh]

That's terrible.

[Lily]

They're so aggressive.

[Andy]

And he fought it so much. He defended his choice so much. I was like, the noise alone.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

The thing weighs, like 8,000 pounds. You're pushing that through a hallway. I'm like, listen to yourself. He's like, I bring a bucket of fish. I do. Like, oh. I'm like, you're bringing a bucket of fish and an elephant seal into a corporate office? Are you kidding me? You're fired.

[Josh]

It can't work.

[Andy]

No. And then he's like, okay, I'll change it to a sheep. I was like, okay. All right.

[Lily]

I think that giant tortoise is the only good answer.

[Andy]

It's a quiet. It's not going to. It's not going anywhere. He says it might nip at people's heels. I'm like, if they're. How. What kind of reflexes do you have? You can't dodge a giant tortoise. You deserve to get fired at that point.

[Lily]

That is so nipped.

[Josh]

That's so good.

[Lily]

I was thinking something like an aquatic animal because it would stay in its fish tank. If I could pull a fish tank around.

[Andy]

But it's not very heavy, right? Like, unless you do, like, a big tuna.

[Lily]

Yeah, I could do a big tuna. But a tortoise weighs more than a big tuna.

[Josh]

Patreon.

[Andy]

Yeah. That's the thing. It's. That's the tough thing because you have to survive for a week. And elephant seals, 90 of their life is out inside the water.

[Lily]

I know. Like, Alan, you weren't thinking.

[Andy]

I know. Alan's better than that.

[Josh]

I'm happy with my horse.

[Andy]

I think the horse could work because

[Josh]

I would ride the horse into work.

[Andy]

How much horses weigh?

[Josh]

2. A lot.

[Andy]

2,000.

[Lily]

Donkey might be smarter, dad, because

[Andy]

they're very thick. Too dense.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Are you doing like, a Clydesdale? That would mean, like a Budweiser horse. That'd be crazy.

[Josh]

I know.

[Lily]

He'd be as tall as this.

[Josh]

Between 820. £200.

[Andy]

Still good. Payday.

[Lily]

That's big.

[Andy]

Yeah. Let us know in the comments. What you.

[Lily]

A thousand dollars a pound an hour?

[Josh]

No, a thousand dollars a pound.

[Andy]

Period? Yeah.

[Josh]

Oh, for a week?

[Andy]

Oh, yeah. I guess I was thinking, like, per. But still, no matter what, like, it's still a decent paycheck.

[Lily]

Oh, yeah. Big time.

[Josh]

Hey, Andrew. Oh, sorry. What are you gonna say?

[Andrew]

Tibetan mastiff, which just because I want one.

[Josh]

Those are crazy.

[Andrew]

Freaking sick.

[Josh]

They don't even look like dogs.

[Lily]

What's that?

[Andy]

They're just.

[Lily]

I'm gonna Google it.

[Josh]

Creatures.

[Andy]

It's a long leap from a whale. I know. I wonder what's. What's the most dense animal?

[Josh]

Speaking of creatures.

[Lily]

Oh, my word. Look at that guy.

[Josh]

Did you hear what happened?

[Andy]

I.

[Josh]

We just. I gotta go into this segment real quick. It was in. Oh, my gosh. Where was it? I know they said Philadelphia County.

[Lily]

Philadelphia.

[Josh]

Or. But it wasn't in Philadelphia. It was, like, somewhere. Somewhere, like, Midwest. There's a lady who was going to her car and was attacked by an animal and, like, almost killed her. Basically ripped her face off and took off. And the cops came, and they're like, what in the world? And she's like, it kind of looked like a dog, but it was, like, not a dog.

[Andy]

Did we not find out what the animal this was?

[Josh]

They don't know what it was.

[Andy]

What? Where was this?

[Josh]

Somewhere in the Midwest or the. Yeah, this is a chupacabra, dude. Or a freaking dog, man.

[Andy]

Oh, my goodness. Walking by and just ripping.

[Josh]

All the cops. All the cops said the bites, the scratches, the way it attacked. They've never seen a dog do that.

[Andy]

But it was quick.

[Josh]

What jumped out when she was getting in her car, attacked her, and then took off.

[Lily]

Let's see how she's in the next full moon, bro.

[Andy]

It's true.

[Josh]

And it was a full moon.

[Lily]

It was.

[Josh]

I don't know. But isn't that crazy, though?

[Andy]

That is scary. How do you. Oh, man. Like, how do you live with, like, how do you walk or do anything at that? After that, it'd be constantly. Dude, Terrible. So scary.

[Josh]

Terrible. Anyways, hit us with that beat.

[Andy]

Could have been a bad.

[Josh]

Oh, wait, yeah. Andrew's got a real.

[Andy]

Yes, he does. And he gonna give it us.

[Josh]

Do you have a picture of the massive. Yeah, dude.

[Lily]

It's so cute.

[Andrew]

Well, she's looking at a different picture for sure than me.

[Andy]

Oh, yeah. Those things are ferocious, dude.

[Andrew]

Well, yeah, they're known for, like, not being good family dogs, but they're freaking sick.

[Lily]

I bet that there was folklore in Tibet about them a long time ago.

[Andrew]

I wonder how much they weigh.

[Andy]

Yeah, you should have. You didn't look that up.

[Andrew]

No, I just know. I know they're huge.

[Lily]

That's like the main.

[Andy]

But they got a lot of hair. That could be deceiving.

[Andrew]

150.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Andrew]

Not terrible, but I want one, so.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Oh, I know what this is.

[Andy]

What is it?

[Josh]

All right, ready?

[Andy]

Where is it?

[Lily]

Where is it?

[Andrew]

It's text.

[Josh]

Everyone chill out.

[Andy]

You said ready, and we, like, we weren't ready.

[Lily]

Oh, this is. You sent it earlier, by the way. Lol.

[Josh]

I hate that.

[Lily]

I think that he looks handsome.

[Josh]

That's insane, actually, for you to say that.

[Andy]

The amount of money that it would take for me to shave my eyebrows, because it's like such. I feel like my eyebrows are such a defin piece to my face. I think it would be.

[Josh]

I look like a.

[Andy]

Wait, that's you.

[Lily]

You didn't.

[Andrew]

Yeah, look at it.

[Andy]

Oh, my gosh. I didn't know that was you.

[Andrew]

It didn't get a reaction from you guys?

[Andy]

No, like, I was.

[Josh]

He was angry about it.

[Andrew]

You didn't get it?

[Andy]

I thought it was just like a funny ad. Like, oh, like the guy shaved everything.

[Andrew]

What a weird thing for me to say.

[Andy]

I know. I didn't get it. I was like, all right. I mean, whatever, though.

[Lily]

Those aren't your.

[Andy]

Dude, that is my eyes. So funny.

[Lily]

It is similar to your eyes. They're not exactly it, but they're pretty close.

[Andy]

Oh, my goodness. You'd be so scary. You'd be a different person.

[Josh]

Stop saying that. It's not true. That's not true.

[Andrew]

There's a dude who looks exactly like this watching the show. Like, dang.

[Josh]

Oh, my gosh.

[Lily]

I would love you without any of.

[Andy]

That could be true. But saying he's handsome like that, you're being a little dishonest.

[Lily]

It's your soul that I love, dad.

[Andrew]

And I put your face.

[Josh]

Wait, which episode did I add that to?

[Andy]

Oh, my goodness.

[Andrew]

The one that just came out. Or is it the next one?

[Andy]

I can't remember.

[Josh]

I don't remember, because that's hilarious that

[Andrew]

it's in the episode and you guys just. Andy thought it was just a bad joke.

[Andy]

I just thought it was an ad that Harry's put out. I honestly thought. That's crazy to me.

[Josh]

All right, ready for the video?

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Three, two, one, go. Started drinking it like normal. Got to work, realized. I realized something else was left in

[Andy]

it after I got into drinking it.

[Josh]

And then I looked inside and found a rat. So after. After I found it out, you know, I. I vomited. I got sick multiple times, naturally, because of what I've seen inside.

[Andrew]

I've just adjusted that.

[Josh]

I just had drunk that. And then I went to. Talked to my chain of command. They referred me to go to Portsmouth emergency room, and then they.

[Andrew]

They confirmed it was a rat.

[Josh]

And they confirmed, you know, that I. You know, I adjusted it. They told me that they've never experienced a case like this and that more than likely with the chemicals that are in Monster, that it should be okay and that my antibodies should be able to fight it off, but they want to keep close watch on me within the next 48 hours and make sure I'm not vomiting or have a high

[Andrew]

fever or any side effects.

[Josh]

It's been very traumatic for me. And like I said, I'm not. I'm never going to be able to drink anything that I can't see again.

[Andy]

That, yeah. Is disgusting.

[Andrew]

Cheers.

[Andy]

Cheers. I'll save. I'll. I'll test it on Patreon. I'm not gonna. Oh, wait, that's.

[Andrew]

Oh, my gosh.

[Josh]

Dude. Could you imagine?

[Andy]

I would never stop throwing up. Every time it came into my memory. Twenty years later, I'd still be throwing up. Up.

[Josh]

Don't be mad at me, but I really do have to pee again.

[Andy]

It's okay. It's all right. Lil, talk to us about what you're knitting over there.

[Lily]

This is going to be a sweater set for my new nephew Roan, who is coming this July. We can't wait to meet him. Sweet boy.

[Andy]

Griffin's kid, right?

[Lily]

No, my nephew Taylor's kid.

[Andy]

Got it, got it, got it, got it.

[Lily]

Griffin's kid is Arlo, and he's coming in May. Very cute.

[Andy]

That's awesome.

[Lily]

Anyway, it's a set, and it's a very colorful set. I'll show you the. The pattern. It comes with pants.

[Andrew]

Cute. Nice.

[Andy]

Cute.

[Andrew]

Dude, what's up with baby kids clothes? Like, not having, like the zero to three months means nothing.

[Andy]

Yeah, it's a. It's a. It's a guesstimate. I feel like it's.

[Andrew]

We'll hold one up that looks like it's for a toddler and the other one's for, like a Barbie doll. And they both say zero to three.

[Andy]

Yeah, it's true. Also, we were at the beach yesterday, and Theo, Yeah, two year old, almost two year old, is wearing those, like, full on one piece swimsuits that men used to wear. I'm like, I want one of those.

[Lily]

That's so.

[Andy]

It's. They're so cool. Like the. Like the romper looks. It was like, why was that? Why did that ever go out of style? It looks so cool on him. I know it wouldn't.

[Andrew]

As a friend, I want to have your back, but I don't know that I can have your back on this one.

[Andy]

Me and him have the same body structure, though.

[Lily]

It's. You're not romper. You know, when Zola was a baby, I always thought, wow, she looks so

[Andy]

much like Andy, big old dummy. She literally was like this, like, angry face.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

So funny. Oh, man. I was gonna say something. Forgot. Dang it. Cross my. As soon as I see Josh, I just forget everything. Let me send a video real quick. While we're on the subject of sending videos, this one is crazy. This one is at a rodeo in Tampa, and it's absolutely bonkers sending it. Nope, not ninjas. Good for you. Here we go. This is wild. Like that one. I love rodeos. Do you guys ever go to rodeos?

[Josh]

I have been.

[Lily]

I've been to one.

[Josh]

Dude.

[Andy]

It was like such a thing growing up. We went all the time. And now that I know there's a ton in Florida, so I want to go.

[Lily]

Ready?

[Andy]

Yep.

[Josh]

Three, two, one, Go.

[Andy]

Guys. On a bucking bronco, dude. Absolute stud lands.

[Lily]

Wow. Amazing.

[Andy]

Isn't that incredible? And just like an awesome celebration going up on the fence.

[Lily]

Amazing.

[Andy]

The dude's, like, so agile, so athletic.

[Josh]

Oh, you saw.

[Andrew]

A little late.

[Josh]

Dang.

[Andy]

Oh, is that not crazy?

[Lily]

It says bro afterwards.

[Andrew]

Dude, I did see that and didn't stay long enough to, like.

[Andy]

You're like, what is this?

[Andrew]

Yeah, I. I commend your attention span.

[Josh]

All right, it's time for a favorite segment. Let's talk politics.

[Andy]

Oh, no.

[Josh]

Boo.

[Andy]

It's the greatest time. Greatest segment.

[Josh]

There's some things we have to address, a lot of politics. Stuff we don't like to talk about, we don't like.

[Andy]

Let's address it, let's undress it.

[Josh]

But we gotta address this one.

[Andy]

We gotta break it down, because this

[Josh]

has to do with what we believe in.

[Andrew]

I look that way.

[Lily]

I literally was drinking.

[Andy]

I'm going, oh, boy, it could be me. It could be me.

[Josh]

So recently, the Trump and the Trump administration has had some beef with Pope Leo.

[Lily]

Oh, yeah, I know about this.

[Andy]

Really?

[Josh]

I know that beef well. So Trump, yesterday, when this comes out, a week. So it was a week ago when you guys are watching this, went on this giant rant about the Pope Leo and how he's like, why a weak, weak decision maker. And, like, just going on and on and on and on. Because the Pope's outwardly saying.

[Lily]

Yeah, he's criticizing.

[Josh]

Like, he said something like, God doesn't listen to the prayers of those who incite war and violence.

[Lily]

Which is a hot take, by the way.

[Josh]

It is a hot take a little bit.

[Andy]

Well, I mean, it does say. And there is a precedent, I don't know, for politics, but, like, for, like, men who mistreat their wives or don't respect their wives. God, it hinders our prayer. So they're. There is some type of. For sure, biblical precedent.

[Josh]

But so. And he's just kind of been outwardly speaking out against the Trump administration. Some of the choices he's made. So the Popes. I mean, Trump's going back and, like, bashing on the Pope. But then Trump released this picture yesterday. And I'll send it to you yesterday. Yesterday, he released this picture.

[Andy]

Lilly hasn't seen it.

[Josh]

Social. No.

[Lily]

What is. Can you tell me real quick? What is truth? Social.

[Josh]

It's just a. It's conservative Twitter, basically.

[Lily]

Oh, boy. It's sending. It's sending.

[Andy]

You're gonna love this, Lil.

[Josh]

Why does it take so long? Oh, because I'm on Wi Fi.

[Andy]

What do you think? It Is Lil.

[Lily]

I think it's probably gonna be something disparaging about Pope Leo. And I'm gonna say, what a brat.

[Andy]

Hey, that's my President Trump is.

[Lily]

Oh, my. What am I looking at? What am I looking at?

[Josh]

So that would be Donald Trump is

[Lily]

that Lady Liberty is an angel.

[Josh]

What we would assume Donald Trump dressed as Jesus Christ.

[Andrew]

Good catch.

[Josh]

Healing a man, I guess. Holding the light.

[Lily]

This

[Andy]

is not the craziest photo vault any.

[Josh]

It's sacrilegious.

[Andy]

It is 110%.

[Josh]

Especially posting that after. Because he did it on purpose. He's doing it to troll people. And he's like. And he's done it before with, like, different things, like trying to troll people. But, like, you got an argument with the Pope and then you release this picture and you're just like, okay, that's not. You can't do that.

[Lily]

You can't do that.

[Andy]

I mean, he can. I guess.

[Josh]

You can do that. Yeah, but you're. You're depicting yourself as.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Someone. If you're. If this is what we're interpreting it as, you're depicting yourself as crazy.

[Andy]

I love that, like, with. The White House shuts things down because it's anti Christian. But we're like, you know what?

[Lily]

Tweet it, Go ahead, put it out, and I'll encourage people.

[Andy]

It's even bad AI though, too. Yeah, it's terrible AI. And so it makes me wonder if it was actually him that created it.

[Josh]

I'm sure.

[Andy]

And just post. Because no one's like. He's like, imagine him describing this photo to some intern. That's like their AI guy. The photo guy. I want. I want to be Jesus. I want to have a nurse. Have a nurse by military people. Have some fireworks going.

[Josh]

Please, no black people.

[Lily]

It's true.

[Andy]

The first. The first round probably did have some. He's like, maybe take it out. I don't know. That's crazy, dude. I'm horrified.

[Lily]

And you know something, though? It, like, kind of proves that he's not the Antichrist, because I don't think the Antichrist would do something so on the nose. You know what I'm saying?

[Josh]

We were talking about it earlier. The. The actions of what he's doing with that is Antichrist. That is like anti Christ. Which is not. Not okay.

[Lily]

Not okay.

[Josh]

But that's not for us to completely. I mean, we're not. We can be disappointed in that and be like that. But yeah. No matter.

[Andy]

You like them or you hate them. That's wrong. That is an inco.

[Josh]

That's but it's.

[Andy]

It's not.

[Josh]

To me, it's scary. Of like, you're gonna have to answer for stuff like this.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

I think he's pretty aware of where he stands. I've heard him say some things.

[Josh]

Yeah. Which is.

[Andy]

I think it's indifferent. I don't think he understands the concept. That's the problem. I don't think he. I don't think he understands it at all. I think he's very. Just apathetic toward the whole. Whole. His, you know, his calling and his life and, you know, the afterlife. It's just weird, man. It's whacky.

[Lily]

It's really sad.

[Josh]

But the stuff with the Pope. J.D. vance has said some. Like, the. They've said. The Pope has said stuff about JD Vance or the Trump administration. JD Vance has spoken out. I think JD Vance is pretty bummed out because Catholicism is his religion. And so he's like. And so he's kind of going back onto the Pope. Well, he's like, well, Pope doesn't have to do this. He doesn't do that. Blah, blah. Bet you the Pope wouldn't be so happy if his borders were open to all these people at the Vatican. It's like, okay, yeah, that's probably true a little bit. It's just whatever.

[Andy]

Back and forth. It's like, where is it gonna go? Like, how is this productive?

[Josh]

Well, apparently. Which I had a really hard time finding this, but a lot of people were talking about that. The Pentagon or the Trump administration, they use this. They said something that a lot of people were like, what does that mean? And they said basically like, hey, Pope Leo, do you remember the avi. How do you say avion?

[Lily]

This is crazy.

[Josh]

Avion. Avignon.

[Lily]

Yeah, it's like, French.

[Josh]

It's like the avion papacy. Have you heard the avion papacy?

[Andy]

No, I have not.

[Josh]

That's what they said, apparently. And it's like, okay, well, what does that mean? Yeah, well, apparently, in the 1300s, this happened in. Yeah, the 1300s, it was Pope. Sorry, I did bad notes for this. Pope Boniface the 5, 6, 7, 8, 8. Pope Boniface VIII. And he basically said, no, man, I have supremacy over all kings. That's what the Pope said. The king of France. This is really condensed because it's. I mean, way crazy. But the king of France, Philip IV of France, is like, no, I have authority over you. Pope. Pope's like, no, you don't. I represent God and you can't overthrow me or whatever.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And so what the king of France did He sent his boys to the Pope and publicly beat him up.

[Andy]

What?

[Josh]

At the Vatican, they beat up the Pope. They pulled the Pope out and beat him up, resulting in the next week the Pope dying. Whoa.

[Andy]

They killed the Pope?

[Josh]

History says they didn't kill him, but they. Everyone suspects that he had, like, bleeding on the brain and stuff.

[Andy]

Yeah, that doesn't just happen. Basically.

[Josh]

Publicly shamed him, beat him up. He dies a week later. And the King of France moves the. From the Vatican, moves it to Avi. Avi. Golly. Avignon. France, as the new capital of Catholicism, appoints a French Pope. And for the next seven popes, they are. For the next 70 years, it's always a French Pope. And so now the king, the France. France has control over basically the Catholic Church.

[Lily]

Crazy.

[Andy]

That's wild.

[Lily]

So that's what Trump is like, hey, remember this? He said that to the Pope?

[Josh]

Apparently. I couldn't confirm the actual source. Allegedly. Allegedly.

[Andy]

JD Vance rolls up to Rome just pulling up his sleeves.

[Lily]

Oh, my God.

[Josh]

Yeah. So they're basically. Hey, remember when this happened?

[Andy]

Oh, man.

[Josh]

Like, careful, bro.

[Lily]

I saw it.

[Andy]

That's crazy.

[Lily]

And a lot of the ladies in the comments were like, wow, I really wasn't thinking I was going to need my medieval Church history degree in this administration.

[Josh]

But during these, these French popes. Yeah, the 70 year reign of these French popes. Well, one, they're called the Babylon of the west because of, like, how they were basically the puppets of the French King. Like anything the French King wanted, the Popes would, Thus saith the Lord, do this. So bad news. But in this time, the 70 years time, this is when the Pope outlawed the Knights Templar. And so the Knights Templar were basically like the heroes. Right. This is where it gets tricky because we talked about this before. They accused the Knights Templar of worshiping these whatever baphomet or deities. Crazy stuff. But there was a reality too, that the Knights Templar, they were the most wealthy group in the entire world.

[Andy]

Whoa.

[Josh]

Like, they were. They had more wealth than the Vatican, than the King of France. They owned more property.

[Andy]

It's interesting.

[Lily]

Is it because they were like conquering and stealing?

[Josh]

No, not necessarily. No. They, they established like the first banking system.

[Lily]

Oh, wow.

[Josh]

Like, they would. They opened up hospitals, orphanages. They're basically, their job was to protect pilgrims that are going to Jerusalem in the Holy Land. And like, they accumulated their wealth that way. I'm sure that they raided people and.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Stole a bunch of stuff.

[Andy]

No, not back then.

[Josh]

So the Pope says, you guys are done. So basically in one night The Knights Templar were being arrested. They're being executed. What? So a lot of them just fleed, but with them fleeing, a lot of the treasure just went missing, too.

[Lily]

Oh, boy.

[Josh]

And so that's where you get stuff like the Curse of Oak island and stuff where they believe that Templars buried their treasure, some of their treasure on Oak Island.

[Lily]

What, do we talk about that?

[Josh]

No, but there's a whole TV show about it. Or they can't seem to get this treasure interesting. But. But through that, I'm like, I just started researching different stories of the Templars and stuff. This one I thought was just super, super cool. So shortly after, the Templars were basically kicked out of Europe because of the Catholic Church, which was in the 1300s. 1312 is when the Knights Templar was dissolved. This was during the same time frame as Braveheart in Scotland.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Cool.

[Josh]

And so what's his name?

[Andy]

Bruce.

[Josh]

Robert Bruce. Is that.

[Lily]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Josh]

The King of England or King of Scotland was basically going against England, who was Catholic. They had the Pope and all that stuff. So there's folklore saying that there's a large majority of Templars that fled to Scotland because Robert the Bruce was giving them a safe haven.

[Andrew]

Okay.

[Josh]

And with that, they brought treasure and all this stuff. But it was the battle, sorry, the battle at Bonnockburn, which is at the end of Braveheart, the battle of Bonnock Berm, where the Scots beat the English.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And they gained their independence for a time being. But the story goes that the Scottish were losing that battle. That bonding, bonding, boning burn. And there was a force out of nowhere, a group of men that came into the battle, scared the crap out of the English and the Scots overtook the English. And so the theory is that there's a large group of Knights Templar that joined the Scots in that battle to beat the English.

[Andy]

That is so cool.

[Josh]

And the Knights Templar, they were known throughout the entire world as being, like, the scariest of warriors. Like, they said that they would never surrender. They, like, even the Ottoman Empire, like, they said, these guys are scary. Like, they had their own, like, trained assassins and stuff, like the Ottoman Empire for what they're called. But they're like, you know, the Knights Templar, we don't mess with them because, like, they said, they were so skilled, so brave, and, like, they would get their arm chopped off and keep fighting until they bled out.

[Andy]

Just a different mentality.

[Lily]

I can do that too, though.

[Josh]

Yeah. Yeah, you sure can. So I just thought that was so cool. That's such a fun, like, connection of just, like.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Them going to Scotland, them overthrowing the English with the Scots and that. Just changing the course of history.

[Andy]

Yeah. And then probably just disappearing afterwards.

[Lily]

Crazy.

[Andy]

Golly. Man. You must have thought, like, they were like, ghosts or something.

[Josh]

But another connection of why the Knights, like, why people think the Knights Templar were part of that battle and did go to Scotland, or at least some of them did, is that Scotland became basically the birth center of Freemasonry.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Josh]

So the Knights Templar, all that stuff, like Freemasons today attribute back to the Knights Templar.

[Lily]

Yeah, that is true. They. I mean, just. Men just be fraternizing. They can't help it.

[Andy]

So fun.

[Josh]

So, yeah, they think that the Knights Templar were in Scotland.

[Lily]

Very interesting.

[Josh]

That's very cool. And then I'm like, I want to. I want to learn more about the Knights Templar instead.

[Lily]

I want to be a knight.

[Josh]

There's another group that was associated with the Knights Templar, but they're called the Knights Hospitaller, I think. Hospital. Hospital. Oh, geez. Op.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Hospitaller.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

They're basically just like a different sect of the Knights Templar.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Josh]

And like, they were more of, like, philanthropic. Is that the word?

[Lily]

Philanthropic?

[Josh]

That's the word of, like, building hospitals, protecting those on the road, and just being very caring. But they turned into elite warriors. But they're basically made of monks.

[Andy]

Whoa.

[Josh]

These monks that help people, but also were these elite warriors. After the dispersion of the Knights Templar and stuff, the Knights Hospital were. The Ottomans came over, took over Jerusalem. They had to flee. And they just kind of went from place to place, constantly getting kicked out, doing all this stuff. And then the King of Spain basically is like, you guys can have the island of Malta. And they're like, okay, cool. So there's like 500 Knights Hospitaler left.

[Andy]

Cool.

[Josh]

At the island of Malta. And this battle is called the Great Siege of Malta. And they say it's the most decisive battle in world history.

[Lily]

Oh, wow.

[Josh]

And I never heard about it.

[Andy]

No.

[Lily]

Does that mean, like, decisively? Everyone on the other side was dead.

[Josh]

Decisively. That it changed the course of history.

[Lily]

Oh, okay.

[Josh]

Yeah. So the Ottomans were taking over everything. And they're constantly going into Europe and trying to get into Europe. And you had, like, Spain and Italy and the Franks fighting back the Ottomans, but they're just a force. They're just taking over everything. And the Knights Hospital were just like, we got some ships. Let's go be some pirates and rob all these Ottomans that are out in open sea. So they started doing that and raiding villages and stuff where the Ottomans were pirates.

[Andy]

Dude.

[Josh]

Yeah. So they're fighting pirates. They are pirates, and they're fighting pirates.

[Lily]

Cool.

[Josh]

And the Ottomans were like, let's get rid of these knights. We hate these dudes.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And they're like, let's sail to the island of Malta and just destroy them once and for all.

[Lily]

And we hate these dudes. They're so philanthropic and, like, caring about hospitals and orphanages.

[Andy]

It makes me sick.

[Lily]

Oh, my gosh.

[Josh]

So in the. This was in 1565. So about 200 years after the Knights Templar was dispersed. 1565, the Ottomans, this tiny island of Malta, sent 60,000 Ottomans.

[Lily]

Oh, my first.

[Josh]

500 for 500 Templars, plus civilians and other soldiers and stuff. Not Templars, Knights hospitalers, whatever. But they went and they fought them. They laid siege. And these knights were just. They were like, chanting like, for God, for St. John. And they were like, just hardcore.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And the battle. The siege lasted about, like. I think it was like three months or something. Actually longer than that. Let's see. May. Let's see. Was it May, June, July, August, September. Five months. Oh, could you imagine this siege happening? But at the end, the knights won. They ended up killing 30,000 Ottomans.

[Lily]

Oh, my word.

[Andy]

These guys were different.

[Josh]

And the people of Malta, with civilians and stuff, because a lot of civilians just took up arms because these knights were just like, yeah, they just carried this courage. And so these civilians, like, yo, I'll follow you guys wherever. And so they ended up losing 6,000 people, but the Ottomans lost 30,000. Potentially 40,000.

[Lily]

Oh, my.

[Andy]

Crazy.

[Josh]

And they said that if they didn't stop the Ottomans at the. Out of Malta, there was a high chance that the Ottomans would have taken over all of Europe. But that battle, like, instantly went through all of Europe, gave every country in Europe, like, the confidence like, oh, we can beat these guys.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And so they fought them back, bro. They pushed him out of Europe.

[Andy]

Imagine seeing that battle.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

How crazy of a fight is that? Six. I mean, 40,000 people.

[Josh]

Yeah, that's.

[Andy]

The island's probably not even big enough for that. No, golly.

[Josh]

I just thought it was the coolest story. The siege. The great siege of malta.

[Andy]

That's awesome.

[Josh]

500 nights, 30, 60,000 Ottomans. They spanked them.

[Lily]

I'd like a movie. Mel Gibson.

[Josh]

That would be a fantastic movie.

[Andy]

That's what I keep. Think every story we talk about.

[Andrew]

That's.

[Andy]

I want to see this movie.

[Andrew]

That's on the low end. 60 people per soldier.

[Andy]

Crazy, crazy monks with swords, dude.

[Andrew]

That's their Alamo.

[Josh]

Not only that, they. They had, like, The Ottomans and stuff. They were, like, skilled at, like, sharpshooting, so they had guns at this time.

[Andy]

Oh, wow.

[Josh]

Sharp shooting. And cannons. So they're just berating.

[Andy]

Yeah, their.

[Josh]

Their fortresses, bro. And these knights are like, no. Yeah, we ain't doing this.

[Andy]

Imagine getting shot by a cannonball.

[Josh]

It'd be worse.

[Andrew]

Have you ever seen it happen? Like, the circus guys?

[Andy]

I mean. Yeah. The stomach and stuff. Yeah, it's terrible.

[Andrew]

I know it's not.

[Andy]

But that's not even. Probably the same, like. Yeah. Speed or anything.

[Josh]

Have you in the Patriot.

[Andy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Josh]

They show the cannonball hitting that dude's leg.

[Andy]

Yeah, yeah, that. And what's that? What was the show that we watched on Hulu?

[Lily]

The American primeval. Oh, no.

[Andy]

Japan. Was it Japan Shogun? Yeah, yeah, they showed him that one, too. That was wild world, man.

[Josh]

The Knights Templar, they have the coolest stories. They believe that they came to the United States well before Christopher Columbus did, too.

[Andy]

That'd be crazy.

[Josh]

Like, 300 years before Columbus.

[Lily]

It sounds like everybody got here before Christopher.

[Andy]

Late to the party.

[Josh]

Yeah, Literally everyone.

[Andy]

He's the guy that shows up was like, yeah, no, I started this party.

[Josh]

Yeah. You guys came to America first. But I got to India first.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

It's not India, Christopher.

[Andy]

You're Indians, though, so power of marketing. Explain that. Why does everyone call you Indians?

[Josh]

India Dangas. Oh, my. Anyways, this is my stories.

[Lily]

That's a good story.

[Andy]

That's very good. I just imagine. I just want to know, like, how cool would these people just be, like, if you were just hanging around them, like, in their off time?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Like, could we hold a conversation with them at all?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

It's so weird.

[Josh]

Warrior monks.

[Lily]

It sounds like they don't really have off time. Sounds like they're always doing something.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Maybe that's our problem.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Too much talk. More action.

[Josh]

More action. But you think of, like, stuff, like, even with, like, what Pope Leo said, like, those who wage war are heard by the prayers of God. But what if it's in defense of your Christian nation being overtaken by.

[Lily]

No, bro.

[Josh]

A Muslim empire.

[Lily]

No, I have something to say about that. It's so interesting you bring that up, because this morning I saw something on the Ticky talk. It was a Catholic priest interviewing about our current entanglement. And I guess what he said is, the Christian church historically has, like, a. A way to, like, diagnose or, like, say, like, this is a war worthy of whatever, and it's usually to preserve peace. Like, you go to war for a preservation of Peace. And he was criticizing this war and saying that this is an unholy war. But I'm like, dude, what about all the Muslims taking over Iran? Right. Isn't that the whole point?

[Josh]

Well, they. Yeah. They've had Iran since.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

For a long time.

[Lily]

And they say, like, death to all these allied countries. Do you know what I'm saying?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

What do you think?

[Josh]

I don't know.

[Lily]

I really don't know either.

[Andrew]

I think, I mean, the calling can be specific, too. Like, I've talked to people that I know are believers, and they feel very passionate about being the people. Let's. Let's ignore the theater of war. Let's. Let's talk about their people. So a lot of guys go into war, into combat. They come back to the States, they can't assimilate. They're just wired as soldiers now. And so they're like, I have this skill. What do I do with it? And then there are people now who have created organizations where people with that skill set can go in and, like, rescue kids out of child trafficking.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Epic use.

[Lily]

Yes.

[Andrew]

Of that skill. Fully condone that sort of behavior.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

And so it's like, now we're just making the plain argument someone can be called to that sort of thing. The problem when you get political is, like, you don't even freaking know if the war you're in even. You know, it's underneath the guise of, like, they said they're gonna kill us or they're doing all this stuff, but we don't even know if that. If it's about that or if it's

[Josh]

about just profit and profit control.

[Lily]

I suppose that's why I don't know is because I don't understand the exact motives. I do know that Iran used to be a somewhat Western nation where there was prosperity amongst some people. I don't know if it was everybody, but they were on their way to something that was a little bit more Western and tolerant.

[Andrew]

It's just hard. Jesus telling, put your sword away in the garden. He's like, you're not supposed to do this. This is supposed to happen.

[Josh]

Or the lift by the sword, die by the sword.

[Andrew]

Or the gospel going forward. Underneath oppression and dispersion, the best thing for Kingdom of Christ might be the oppression of his church.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

So it's like, I don't know.

[Lily]

No, it's true. We do know that there are examples of holy wars, though, that it does exist.

[Josh]

Like within scripture.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

In the New Testament era.

[Lily]

Oh, I don't know.

[Andrew]

Super different.

[Lily]

Well, I Mean the Crusades.

[Josh]

Yeah. Well, that's. That's the debate is like, where, like, were those justified? Because it kind of seems like from the life of Christ, Christ didn't come. Like all the Jewish people were expecting the Messiah to come and overtake Rome.

[Lily]

Right.

[Andrew]

And to be a vigilant soldier type.

[Josh]

And he's like, no, this isn't my kingdom. He's like, my kingdom is not of this world.

[Lily]

Yeah. I don't know.

[Josh]

I don't know.

[Andrew]

Yeah. I mean, he consistently told people who were violent stop being violent.

[Lily]

Although what is the. What. What does he say when they're at.

[Josh]

At least does talk about defending the innocence.

[Lily]

Yeah. And when he. When he's at the last supper and they're like, should we get our swords? And he was like, yeah, soon.

[Josh]

Yeah. I don't know. We need to do a deep dive into this chat.

[Lily]

Help us.

[Josh]

What? I mean, like, war.

[Lily]

War.

[Andrew]

What is it?

[Andy]

Absolutely nothing.

[Josh]

Yeah. They said it on the Chosen.

[Lily]

Yeah. And we were like, that's not in the Bible. And it's like, sure enough, it is.

[Josh]

It was.

[Lily]

There was a lot that happened in the Chosen. We're like, that didn't happen. That's embellishment. Then we go, we read our Bible. We're like, that happened.

[Andy]

But then there's also a lot of embellishment.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Speaking of that, we might have Mr. Dallas Jenkins on sometime in the future.

[Josh]

We just might. Anyway, you know, we will have on Patreon right after this episode, an extra episode, bonus episode. Patreon.com forward/news or butterflies.

[Andy]

Too bad they don't get a bonus episode every week. With every episode, though, Josh.

[Josh]

That's where you're wrong, Andy.

[Andy]

They do okay.

[Josh]

They really do.

[Andy]

So while we get a bonus episode, it's not like we get the episodes earlier in the week.

[Josh]

You do, Andy. You do.

[Andy]

Okay, well, I want discounts on merch. Unless you give me that, I'm not getting on Patreon.

[Josh]

You get that as well, Andy.

[Andy]

Okay. All right, last thing. I just want some behind the scenes footage. I love this podcast so much. I want to see more of what's happening on in your guys real time without, you know, being in the couch and talking about these subjects. Like what's happening beyond that. That.

[Josh]

That's all on Patreon too. Yeah. So you go to patreon.com ninjas or butterflies Sign up and we got a bunch of fun stuff. Really helps us out here on the podcast. And you become a. You can become a YouTube member as well.

[Andy]

Just download the app go to Ninjas of butterflies. We have free stuff on there as well that you can like look and see. Like, wow, this seems worth it to me. You could do it for a trial run. Just do it for a month and see if you like it. It's worth it. I promise.

[Josh]

Promise.

[Andy]

We also have. We have a couple movie nights on there that we've never shown.

[Lily]

Never shown.

[Andy]

I mean never shown on anything but Patreon. So I mean there's just other things that are on there that like you're never gonna see anywhere else. Simply because we can't. Because we would be get copyrighted or.

[Josh]

Yeah, that's the one thing, guys. We love all our YouTube members, but there's some things that we're just not allowed to post on YouTube because they just take it down.

[Andy]

Yeah, we want to, but YouTube just doesn't allow us to. So it's a lot of fun. So hop on over there. We're gonna continue this conversation on for YouTube members and for patreon.com also go to Sunday. Cool Swag your get our new shirt. I love this new shirt.

[Josh]

I'm also wearing a ninja shirt.

[Andy]

We're having a person getting this tattooed on their body apparently. Wow. He's his own tattoo artist.

[Josh]

Wow.

[Andy]

So he's like, I'm gonna do it on myself.

[Josh]

Very interesting.

[Andy]

Very, very interesting.

[Josh]

All right, guys, we'll see ya. We love you so much. Bye bye. Goodbye.

[Andy]

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[Josh]

What you're about to see.

[Andy]

Wow.

[Lily]

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[Josh]

If any of you know what these

[Andrew]

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[Josh]

Aliens have a heart attack when he

[Andy]

see bottle nose fish pigs.

[Lily]

There's a massive police response.

[Andy]

The dolphin thing. Oh my God. Dolphin style.

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