192 - The Curse Of The Power Rangers, Bob Lazars UFO Proof, & More Missing Scientists

Summary

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Ninjas Are Butterflies Ep. 192

"The Curse Of The Power Rangers, Bob Lazar’s UFO Proof & More Missing Scientists"
Date: May 1, 2026
Hosts: Josh Hooper, Andy DeNoon, Lily, Lil

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Episode Overview

This week's episode of Ninjas Are Butterflies dives into a captivating blend of comedy, conspiracies, true crime, and pop culture. The team explores the mysterious rash of missing scientists (with more vanishing in strange circumstances), updates on jaw-dropping new UFO evidence supporting Bob Lazar, and the eerie, real-life “Curse of the Power Rangers.” Woven throughout are side trips into Marvel movie fatigue, Disney adult psychology, notorious twin studies, trippy DMT tales, and their trademark roasts and banter.

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Major Discussion Points

1. Scientists Going Missing: Connecting the Dots

Timestamps: [00:00], [12:19], [27:34], [37:40], [39:42], [50:14]

• The Pattern: Andy brings up how 11 scientists, including top astronomers, propulsion engineers, and even high-ranking generals, have mysteriously gone missing or died recently—now up to 13.
• Notable Case: Carl Grillmare ([27:57])
  • An acclaimed astronomer in New Mexico, killed on his porch by a man previously arrested on his property.
  • Known for work with the Vera Rubin Observatory which scans the skies for interstellar objects. Curiously, its data is sent to the US government before scientists can access it.
  • Speculation: Are these deaths connected to secrets about incoming asteroids, like Apophis, or other classified findings?
  • “But when the picture is taken, no scientist can look at it. It’s actually sent to the Pentagon.” — Andy ([31:13])
• Amy Eskridge Case ([34:05])
  • 34-year-old anti-gravity researcher, founder of the Institute for Exotic Science. Died by suicide, though she’d previously warned: “I will never hurt myself. If something happens to me, you know something happened to me.” ([35:28])
  • She claimed her research was unhackable, yet claimed her keystrokes were scanned/burned by external tech.
  • Oddities: Scattered alcohol in videos, discrediting narratives.
• Other Curiosities:
  • General William Neal McCasland’s hiking disappearance ([40:07]): left behind phone and wallet, took only his gun.
  • NASA engineer/pilot James Moffat’s fatal family plane crash ([38:41]).
  • A mother at Los Alamos vanishing after dropping lunch to her daughter ([45:03]): both phones factory-reset.
  • Are these deaths a result of foreign interference (China?), government clean-up, or simply random? The White House and FBI publicly say they’re investigating.

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2. The Bob Lazar UFO Proof & Recent Documentary

Timestamps: [66:09], [69:14]

• Andy celebrates the release of the new Bob Lazar “S4” documentary and its CG reconstructions of UFO vehicles.
• Logan Paul quietly released previously unseen UFO footage on Jesse Michaels’ podcast. The description matches Lazar’s—an orange-glowing, oscillating craft, “just like it’s riding on a wave.”
  • “They said it’s like it almost looks like it’s on the ocean… it glows orange. And they showed it in the S4, so they recreated it. Logan Paul saw that. That’s exactly the video I recorded.” — Andy ([68:47])
• Discussion of anti-gravity: Bob Lazar’s claims about time/space manipulation tech—using element 115 and devices that create black-hole-like voids ([72:41]).
  • “You can’t put your hands on it… it’s creating this anti-gravity. And… in the path is just a dark void. There was nothing there.” — Andy ([72:12])

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3. The Curse of the Power Rangers

Timestamps: [87:24] onward

• Josh unspools the dark history of the Power Rangers franchise—a legacy of cast tragedies and grim true crime.
  • Original Cast: Underpaid, doing their own dangerous stunts, multiple injuries and exploitative contracts.
  • Notable Tragedies:
    • Yellow Ranger (Thuy Trang): Killed in a car accident; friend paralyzed ([94:28])
    • Green/Black Ranger (Jason David Frank): Sibling suicide, his own later suicide.
    • Red Rangers: One convicted of massive wire fraud; another, Ricardo Medina, murdered a man with a sword.
    • Zordon Actor: Died suddenly of a heart aneurysm at 43.
  • “Behind it, just darkness, darkness, darkness, dude.” — Josh ([95:46])
  • Despite the popularity—$1.9 billion in toys—cast faced repeated hardship and rumored “curse.”

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4. Pop Culture & Conspiracy Quick Hits

Love on the Spectrum: The group shares heartfelt and comedic reactions to the latest season ([03:55]–[05:49]). Marvel Movie Fatigue ([21:49], [22:04]):

• Hosts grumble about continuity confusion, retconning of Endgame to fit Doomsday, and franchise overload.
  • “No other franchise expects you to do this. Except Star Wars, which is Disney. Yeah, it’s a Disney problem.” — Josh ([23:21]) Disney Adult Psychology ([23:43]):
• Lily explains the link between childhood trauma and Disney nostalgia, arguing Disney adults cling to the brand’s “safe” world as a comfort reflex.
• “What they’ve created, a Disney adult, is a kid who cannot separate from the safety when they encountered their first trauma.” — Lily ([24:01])

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5. The Secret World of Twins

Timestamps: [97:12], [98:07], [101:02]

• Andy explores real-world “twin experiments”—notoriously separating twins at birth (Louise Wise Services) to secretly test nature vs. nurture.
  • Gripping case: Triplets separated, adopted into different families, only to find each other in adulthood.
  • Experiment results sealed at Yale until 2065.
  • “That is maniacal. That’s evil.” — Lil ([100:15])
• Wild “coincidence” tales: The James Twins, who didn’t know each other, both named their dogs “Toy,” both named “James,” both married and divorced women with identical names, and more ([101:02]–[102:13]).
• Lily: Even distant siblings often end up with mirrored hobbies or professions—evidence for deep genetic imprinting ([102:34]).

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6. DMT & Other Bizarre Interludes

DMT “Machine Elf” Ban: Some users report being permanently “locked out” of the hallucinogenic spiritual plane, harshly ejected by so-called “machine elves” ([79:19]). - “The elves are like, get out. You’re not allowed in here. In fact, your soul is damned forever.” — Andy ([80:20])

• Joe Rogan, Trump, & DMT for Veterans ([83:34]): How a single Rogan text to Trump supposedly helped move federal support for psychedelic therapies. “It’s nuts how it’s happening,” says Lily ([84:50]).

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7. Notable Comedy Moments & Banter

• Board Game Suffering ([55:48]): Lily and Lil would literally prefer 15 hours of torture to being the only newbie at a board game night.
  • “I’ve left so many hangouts because Apples to Apples popped out.” — Lily ([56:27])
  • “Board games should only be invited and brought out when you’ve invited people who want to play.” — Josh ([56:52])
• Owl Neighbors ([54:31]): Story of two British men accidentally communicating in “owl language” for months, each thinking they were talking to actual birds.
• Shreking: Gen Z dating term for “dating someone you’re not attracted to because you think they’ll treat you better” ([25:07])
• Spongebob Assignment ([02:16]): Each host picked as a Spongebob character.
• Red light therapy & horror movies ([06:43]): “I don’t know why a horror movie hasn’t used it yet. Because it looks terrifying.” — Josh ([07:00])
• Lil’s Question Segment: Would you rather slime like a snail or spritz water like a dolphin, with unique social consequences? ([59:36])

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Notable Quotes

• “If you found stuff that would make you want just to take your own life like that, you’d think you would want to share it first. Share the information, then go ahead with your plan.” — Josh ([44:24])
• “It’s so hard to believe that our government would do this kind of thing. But also, if you’re going to make something believable, cause an accident…” — Josh ([50:49])
• “It makes me wonder… if, like, why are these scientists going missing and dying, but then you have people like Bob Lazar releasing so many crazy secrets?” — Josh ([74:35])
• “Imagine being cool enough to be in the Marines, but not cool enough to go to the DMT club.” — Josh ([85:50])
• “Behind it, just darkness, darkness, darkness, dude.” — Josh ([95:46])
• “Identical twins freak me out.” — Andy ([103:16])

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Pop Culture & Deep Dives

• Wolf Walkers (Apple TV) recommended as beautiful hand-drawn animation ([24:38])
• The best/worst of board games, nostalgia for Flubber and Iron Giant ([62:02], [78:33])
• Shrek character theory: Lord Farquaad as secret child of Snow White? ([25:51])

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Outro

The episode concludes with reminders about Patreon exclusives and weekly merch giveaways for commenters. The content is always a unique fusion of absurdist comedy, conspiracy speculation, heartfelt stories, and pop culture deep-dives, leaving listeners laughing and questioning reality in equal measure.

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Section Guide & Timestamps

| Section | Timestamp | |------------------------------------------------------|--------------| | Missing Scientists, Government Secrets | 00:00, 27:34, 37:40, 50:14 | | Bob Lazar UFO, Anti-gravity, Logan Paul’s Video | 66:09, 69:14 | | Curse of the Power Rangers | 87:24 | | Twin Experiments & Wild Coincidences | 97:12, 101:02| | Psychedelics, DMT, “Machine Elves” | 79:19, 83:34 | | Marvel/Disney/Pop Culture | 21:49, 22:04, 23:43 | | Board Game Torture, Comic Moments | 55:48 |

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This episode of Ninjas Are Butterflies is a wild ride—a must-listen for lovers of conspiracy, retro pop culture, and irreverent laughs.

Transcript

[Andy]

11 scientists have gone missing. The connections are weird and out of this world, literally.

[Josh]

And this is for you, nighty kids, because the Curse of the Power Rangers is what I'm gonna be talking about today. It's scary. It's silly. Not so much. It's actually really terrifying. You're not gonna like it.

[Lily]

And new footage has just come out in a documentary confirming Bob Lazar's story. It's freaky, and you're not gonna want to miss it. Also, we talk about twins and how they're possibly telepathically connected in ways we don't even understand. You're gonna want to see this.

[Lil]

Don't even stop. Start this podcast unless you have commented and did what?

[Josh]

They get free merch.

[Lil]

Because you get free merch if you do it.

[Andy]

We choose a winner every week.

[Lil]

Pause the episode right here, go down and comment something really nice about me,

[Andy]

and you might win free merch.

[Lil]

You might win free merch.

[Josh]

But if it's about me, I'm going

[Lil]

to pick you resume. This podcast is brought to you and powered by Sunday. Cool. So watch this or listen.

[Josh]

We did it, folks.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Another one.

[Andy]

Hooray.

[Josh]

Hooray.

[Andy]

I got you, Chick Fil A. Oh, my goodness.

[Lil]

Ravioli, ravioli. Give me the formula.

[Josh]

It did rhyme. You got to give it to her. It did rhyme.

[Andy]

You want to at least want a lemonade?

[Lil]

Yeah, please.

[Josh]

I don't think. I don't think this will get flagged because it's a cover and it's a spongebob song. Listen to this, Lil. You'll really appreciate this.

[Lily]

Closer to the mic. It's cutting out.

[Josh]

Isn't that good?

[Lil]

It's a good song.

[Josh]

Even. Very good.

[Lil]

I mean, in SpongeBob, it's good.

[Josh]

What about the halftime show song?

[Lil]

Amazing.

[Josh]

I used to, like, have that in my head all day long as a kid. How did it go? I don't.

[Lily]

I feel like I got out of spongebob too early.

[Josh]

I was in on spongebob from the get and then they that once this, the first movie hit, I was kind of moving out.

[Lily]

Same.

[Lil]

The first movie was phenomenal.

[Josh]

Yeah?

[Lil]

Your girls seen it?

[Josh]

No, I don't think so. That's the thing. They didn't have spongebob though.

[Lil]

The spongebob, the first spongebob movie is so funny. I cackle as a grown up.

[Josh]

I'm going to have to.

[Lily]

If you had to assign a spongebob character to every person on this podcast, who would we each be?

[Lil]

Oh, boy.

[Josh]

Squidward. Just kidding.

[Andy]

Lily is definitely spongebob Enough of that.

[Lily]

Fair or she.

[Josh]

Sandy cheeks. Get more sandy cheeks Vibes from sandy cheeks. Yeah, because she's intellectual, but she's silly either. No, no. Comparison is gonna be great.

[Lil]

Lil, we were talking last night about Taylor Hooper because Taylor Hooper listens to the show every single week, and that is just. So does he.

[Josh]

Really?

[Lil]

Every single week.

[Josh]

Good, bro.

[Lil]

And I said, I think that Taylor loves me. And Josh is like, he does. He loves you. You're his sister in law. And I was like, like a uncle. Like a Mexican uncle loves their Chihuahua. Yeah, I'm the Chihuahua and Taylor's the Mexican.

[Josh]

Yeah, of course. I thought the roles were reversed. That'd be a little weird.

[Andy]

Do you see? We should pull the clip of when I first said if you were a dog, you would be a Chihuahua.

[Lil]

Did you record that?

[Andy]

It was on the pod.

[Josh]

And then doesn't she just go crazy afterwards? Literally.

[Lil]

You told me that most of the time I'm a golden retriever, but sometimes I'm a Chihuahua. Yeah, it's such an insult.

[Josh]

Whoa, Easy.

[Lil]

Oh, my gosh.

[Lily]

Get out of here. Go.

[Andy]

So full circle. You just compared yourself to a Chihuahua.

[Josh]

Boom. She knew it. Deep down. Sometimes the truth hurts, you know, Speaking of shows, let's get it out of the way. Love on the spectrum.

[Lil]

It was good, per se.

[Josh]

It was interesting.

[Lil]

Interesting.

[Josh]

I love this podcast.

[Lil]

Amazing, dude.

[Josh]

So good. Did you cry during Madison and Tyler's anniversary?

[Lil]

No.

[Josh]

No.

[Lil]

You cried?

[Josh]

Oh, man. I bawled like a baby. Me and Kelsey both did.

[Lil]

Really?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lil]

I mean, we were smiling ear to ear.

[Josh]

Yeah, that one. Oh, gosh, it's so good. Emma. Emma, I think, is my new favorite character. The LDS girl.

[Lil]

She's great.

[Josh]

She deserves everything in the world. Yeah, she's great.

[Lil]

Plant cities not far from here.

[Josh]

No, I'm saying we could easily run into them if we wanted to.

[Lil]

I wonder if he does DJ shows that we could go see one. Oh, I bet they're, like, sold out.

[Josh]

Gosh, I bet 100%. I did get really sad whenever someone yelled at Madison. They're like, hey, Maddie.

[Lil]

I know.

[Josh]

And then she got super triggered by it and didn't, like, it doesn't affect her at all. Like, like, oh, the fame and stuff. Like wanting to go up to fan. Like, it's like, that was like. Yeah, she did not like that at all. Yeah, it's like, man, come on. Fans do better.

[Andy]

I just say get over it.

[Lil]

Honestly, I will say that. I will say that I did not know that she doesn't like a nickname. Yeah, maybe that Person didn't know. Yeah, maybe until that moment.

[Josh]

Well, they've never called her Maddie, so

[Lil]

her name is Madison.

[Josh]

Exactly. So why would you call her Maddie?

[Lil]

That's true.

[Josh]

Exo facto prakto.

[Lil]

Anyway, love on the spectrum is fantastic. Connor is not coming back. Did you hear that?

[Josh]

I did not hear that. I hope he finds love like I hope him and Georgie seal the deal is terrible news.

[Lil]

They split.

[Josh]

Oh, you told me that yesterday, didn't you?

[Lil]

You didn't finish the show.

[Josh]

No, I'm still getting. We're in London right now.

[Lil]

Oh, sorry. Ruined it.

[Josh]

Spoiler spoiled. Spoiler per se. Interesting. Every time I say interesting now, I feel like I said it this morning to Steve. I was like, oh, interesting. I'm like, oh, no, I can't steal Dylan's bran. It's such a good show.

[Andy]

Also, it's one of the best.

[Josh]

I'm halfway through, which is weird. Not what I expected. Astronaut's wife, right? Halfway through. I have no idea where this movie is going. And she just found out she's having twins.

[Lil]

Yeah. There's a very challenging part that goes against our morals.

[Josh]

Yeah. Yeah. I think I passed it. I was like, why did I get this movie recommended to me?

[Lil]

It's just I. Every time I think about, like, an astronaut going to space, I think about this movie.

[Josh]

Yeah, it's good so far. I mean, I love Charlize Theron and Johnny Depp.

[Lil]

Oh, my. And Johnny Depp. Blonde hair. What is going on?

[Josh]

What a studio. What a stud. Am I right, Josh? He gets it.

[Lil]

What is that light?

[Josh]

It's a new light.

[Lil]

Red light therapy. Point it right on my forehead.

[Josh]

Let's have it like this far away from your face.

[Lily]

Do you actually want, like, red light therapy of sorts?

[Lil]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Acupuncture.

[Josh]

What's the. Everything's acupuncture.

[Lily]

I'm telling you. She puts that red light. That's the best nap I've had in a long.

[Andy]

Listen, I still doubt the red light therapy, but all science says that it's amazing for you, and I don't get it.

[Josh]

I don't know why a horror movie hasn't used it yet. Because it looks terrifying.

[Andy]

What movie?

[Josh]

Horror.

[Andy]

Right.

[Lil]

When I love seeing the videos where I never. That you boys. I love seeing the videos where it's like, the girl. The women at nighttime, they're doing their glam to prepare for the next day, and they put on, like, the lip stain and the red light mask and they've got their hair in the. And then it's like. That's a baddie. Bacon.

[Josh]

Batty bacon.

[Lil]

Put that baddie to bed and. But the husbands are like, it's so scary.

[Josh]

That would be funny. A scary. A scary movie from, like, a kid's perspective. But it was, like, really done, like, as a scary movie. Like, true horror. But it's like all it is. It's like it's just a mom and dad just doing their life. But it's like you put yourself in the fear of the child's eyes because everything was so much scarier back then. And so if you can, like, access

[Lil]

that a little bit, that's something that we should psychoanalyze. Why are you so scared?

[Andy]

You know, it's funny you say that. That instantly made me think of a memory that, like, I've suppressed. And it was the house I grew up in. In Apopka. There was a shower in the. Or, like, it was like a. Like, our second bathroom. And my dad had to, like, replace the floor of the shower.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

And my dad's not a handyman at all. And he did this concrete mix, but it was like a gravel concrete. So, I mean, it was all. And I was so afraid of that shower.

[Josh]

Really?

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Interesting.

[Andy]

Because it was dark and it was like rocks.

[Lily]

I'm like texture guy.

[Josh]

Wow.

[Andy]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, maybe that's the first time I saw my dad naked. I remember. So

[Josh]

traumatizing. No, I take it back.

[Andy]

Oh, yep.

[Josh]

That's a. It is a funny thing. Like, there's that comment on TikTok. It's like no one lived in original life whatsoever.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

It's like you always think you have experiences that are so unique to you.

[Lil]

Yeah.

[Josh]

You know, like, no one experiences. And then someone does like, a skit on Tick Tock. And you're like, I've literally experienced this. Like, there's this one guy who's like. Like, when you're a kid and you're in bed, hopefully you guys have experienced this. If not, I feel. But like, the. Like, when. And then, like, your parents are, like, fighting in the middle of the night.

[Lil]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And you just overhear it. And they're screaming. It's like. And then, like, one of the parents, like, the guy in the skit, walks into the room. He's like, you want to see how crazy your mom is? Look, this thing is like they're trying to go to sleep. And it's like, no, you want to fight, let's fight. And it's all like, oh, my gosh. I remember these nights. These are terrifying.

[Andy]

I didn't have that.

[Josh]

Okay. Well, therapy.

[Lily]

This episode brought to you by. Oh, interesting. Interesting.

[Andy]

You want a song, Ms. Lasagna? Hey, then she didn't. They don't go down the frio for nothing.

[Josh]

Hey, Italiano.

[Lil]

This might be Chef Boyardee.

[Josh]

Is it not great?

[Lil]

I love it. I love Chef Boyardee.

[Andy]

Are you saying it's just like, it tastes like it's from a can?

[Lil]

It literally tastes like Chef Boyardee. Like, it has the same flavor.

[Josh]

Before I became. Actually, it was like, probably the first year when I stopped of having demi, but when I became an adult, big can of SpaghettiOs, full pack of hot dogs chopped up. It won in big bowl, dude.

[Andy]

A full pack of.

[Josh]

Full pack of hot dogs.

[Lil]

How's your cholesterol?

[Josh]

Large can. I've never checked it. Large can of SpaghettiOs.

[Lil]

You should check it. You know what just happened?

[Josh]

I don't even know what cholesterol is.

[Lil]

Can I tell you some news that our fiends don't even know who these people are, but our dear friends Chris had a stroke in his eye yesterday. It's his second one, and it's cholesterol related. And so for weeks, he has to go every week and get a shot in his eye.

[Josh]

You're kidding me. Is that real?

[Lil]

Check your cholesterol.

[Josh]

What is cholesterol? I don't know. I'm not. I'm being like, jokey, man. Right now.

[Lil]

It's fat in your blood, right? Isn't it?

[Andy]

Something like that, yeah.

[Josh]

But they did not.

[Lily]

Dude, I got the fat blood.

[Josh]

This is hard for me to admit. I used to. I have these scars on my arm from literally donating plasma.

[Lil]

Yeah.

[Josh]

For years, twice every week. There would be. Some times the machines would get clogged on people because their blood was too thick. Oh, that happened to me a couple times.

[Lily]

Yeah. You need to get checked, bro.

[Josh]

I'm better now. I feel like I'm better. I feel like I'm eating healthier, drinking healthier.

[Andy]

Just get it checked. Doesn't hurt.

[Josh]

How do you check your cholesterol? Look in the mirror.

[Lil]

I got it.

[Josh]

High cholesterol.

[Lil]

No, you gotta get a lot more done. And I will say that it can be a genetic thing, too, because my mom, who is so petite, I mean, she's literally not even like five foot and teeny tiny, has high cholesterol.

[Lily]

What does height or size have to do with it?

[Andy]

Typically, you associate high cholesterol with fat people. Yeah, because of fat in your blood.

[Lil]

Chris is not fat.

[Andy]

No, he's not.

[Josh]

He's not fat.

[Andy]

Chris, you're not fat. Chris.

[Lil]

Chris, you're fit.

[Andy]

You're fit, not fat.

[Lily]

Not your Achilles tendon.

[Andy]

Chris doesn't even listen. I don't think he listens to this

[Josh]

podcast, but guess who does. Taylor.

[Andy]

Taylor, my brother.

[Josh]

We love you, Taylor.

[Andy]

Do you want a song?

[Lil]

Yeah, play it.

[Andy]

All right.

[Lily]

Oh, that's at my mouth.

[Andy]

Should we even do a song?

[Josh]

Why? I mean, why not? We've done a song for the past, like, 100 episodes.

[Andy]

I don't know.

[Josh]

Just. Come on.

[Andy]

There's just a lot going on.

[Josh]

Like what?

[Andy]

The world's on fire. We're at war. There's scientists going missing.

[Josh]

I forgot about those guys.

[Andy]

I don't know. I don't know if I really want to do a song.

[Josh]

Andy, maybe we should

[Andy]

wonder where you are now? I wonder where you go? I wonder if I'll ever get to know? Cause 11 have gone missing? Or they've been found dead? Were they just afraid of the truth you spread? NASA, I'm talking to you.

[Josh]

Why did you lie?

[Andy]

Inside I cried and I say goodbye? They deny

[Josh]

I tried?

[Andy]

All the scientists are gone? They've left without a trace? You're not the only one who needs space? They've tried to cover it up? Exactly what they've done? Instead of stars, they reached for a gun? NASA, I'm talking to you.

[Josh]

Why you lied?

[Andy]

Inside

[Josh]

I cried

[Andy]

And I say goodbye? They deny

[Josh]

I try. Wow.

[Lil]

That was so epic. Good job.

[Andy]

I guess we did want to do a song.

[Lily]

I guess we did.

[Josh]

After all, it was in our hearts.

[Lil]

Interesting. It was crazy good.

[Josh]

Every line that we got right, I was like, the next one's a mess up. The next one's a mess up. I was looking at every single word.

[Lily]

I started us out slow again, so well done, boys.

[Andy]

We did it.

[Josh]

Sweating.

[Lil]

I gave Nicolas Cage eyeliner the tribute.

[Josh]

Oh, wow. That's the first time. See, this is the cool thing. Like you. You're getting creative in a new way each week.

[Andy]

It's so funny how Jane, every time she sees that pill, she says, that's Mommy.

[Lil]

It looks like me. Isn't that me? I do kind of look like.

[Josh]

No, that's the highest compliment in the world. Nick Cage.

[Andy]

I said, it is, isn't it?

[Josh]

You need to start watching movies with Nick Cage and see if she puts it together.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Why is Mommy looking for the Declaration of Independence?

[Andy]

Oh, there's a clue.

[Josh]

Mommy, we need AI Nicholas Cage reading her bedtime stories.

[Andy]

Oh, man, I love Nick Cage.

[Josh]

Don't we all? A national treasure for sure.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Yep. Oh, Little lol. Little lull in the pod.

[Lil]

Hello.

[Josh]

Interesting. He's the best dude. Everyone go watch the guys. Done right now.

[Andy]

You're done.

[Josh]

What? I didn't know we were doing.

[Lil]

Did you see the part where he was on the date and he would ask the girl with, hey, Lil, she liked it. And he'd be like, please say no.

[Josh]

Please say no.

[Andy]

Well. Please.

[Josh]

What?

[Andy]

Dude, we can't. We can't. We can't keep this up.

[Josh]

We're trying to fill space.

[Andy]

This. There's no space that needs to be filled.

[Josh]

Oh, no.

[Lily]

Is this.

[Josh]

Is this time?

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Dang it.

[Andy]

I don't know. I don't even understand this question, and I'm afraid to ask it.

[Lily]

Yeah, yeah. You got it.

[Andy]

Okay. Golly, I'm. I'm gonna throw up. I think. Lily, my beautiful wife, should thanatologist be out of a job?

[Lil]

What? What'd you say?

[Josh]

Repeat it. She's not.

[Andy]

Yeah, I'm sorry.

[Lil]

The anatolist.

[Andy]

Oh, no. I'm sorry. Let me. Let me say it again. Lily, I love. Should thanatologists be out of a job?

[Lil]

Thanatologists?

[Andy]

Yeah. Should they be out of a job?

[Lil]

Yeah. I don't know what that is.

[Josh]

Final answer.

[Lil]

I don't know what they are.

[Josh]

Final answer.

[Andy]

What do you mean, you don't know what they are?

[Lil]

Thanatologist.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

It's literally like 80% of people.

[Andy]

They should be out of a job.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Well, thanatologists, of course. We all know. I think everyone watching this knows. It's a person who studies death. Dying, what happens? Psychology, The. The psychology around it.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

And you. Hold on. Whoa. I just got dizzy.

[Josh]

Deep breath.

[Andy]

You think they should be out of a job?

[Josh]

That's what she said.

[Andy]

Why?

[Lil]

I don't like it when people die,

[Andy]

but shouldn't we study it to figure out how to prevent it?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lil]

Is that what they're doing?

[Andy]

I. I. We all know that's what they do.

[Josh]

Obviously.

[Andy]

That's the study of it.

[Lil]

I think I stumped you. I thought you thought I was. Because I think you thought I was gonna say no.

[Andy]

No.

[Josh]

What would happen if they didn't? If we weren't studying this, what would happen, Lil?

[Andy]

What would happen?

[Josh]

People live longer.

[Lil]

I don't know.

[Josh]

Forever, possibly.

[Lil]

I'm not familiar with the profession.

[Josh]

Becoming immortal, going against God.

[Andy]

You're the only one. Because everyone is very familiar with the profession.

[Lil]

Oh, yeah? Say it again.

[Andy]

We got a plumber. We got a doctor. We got a thanatologist.

[Josh]

Yeah. That's what I wanted to be when I was a Kid, three years old. That's the first word I said. Anatolist.

[Andy]

Yeah. And you. These are people's livelihoods. Well, they devote their lives to studying death and dying.

[Lil]

Maybe they should study life.

[Andy]

Well, they. They study it to. It's their preach life.

[Josh]

Who. Who are you to say their passion and desires aren't worth following?

[Andy]

Who are you to say that?

[Lil]

Me?

[Josh]

Who are you as a person? I don't even feel like I know you anymore.

[Andy]

Yeah, I don't need.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Andy]

I don't. Welcome. Welcome show. Did I say ninja? I meant butterfly. The butterfly is no doubt one of God's.

[Lily]

Empty your mind.

[Josh]

You learn martial arts.

[Andy]

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[Lily]

Honestly, just knowing where my money was going, I feel like I figured that out way too late.

[Andy]

Yeah, that's most people. Especially when you're younger.

[Lily]

Yeah, I didn't have anything set up. No system, no plan. Was just guessing.

[Andy]

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[Andy]

Wow.

[Lily]

Thanks, Cash App.

[Josh]

You got through it, man. Good job. Good job.

[Lil]

Thanks for not yelling at me, guys.

[Lily]

Thanatologist. I wonder if that's Thanatologist, if that's the root for Thanos and his obsession with killing half the population.

[Josh]

Interesting.

[Lil]

Marvel. I love Marvel.

[Lily]

I hate.

[Andy]

Hold on.

[Lily]

No, we didn't. We didn't have that debate on the live. We were supposed to. You guys were talking about how you're finally getting frustrated with Marvel.

[Andy]

Yes.

[Lily]

Because for the new stuff coming out, you feel like they're.

[Andy]

You have to watch everything.

[Lily]

What changed, though? You said something. They went back and changed something.

[Andy]

What I saw is that they're going back and changing the. The ending of Endgame, Avengers Endgame to where it can better line up with Avengers Doomsday.

[Josh]

How do you do that, though?

[Andy]

Do you think it was doing a theatrical release?

[Josh]

Do you think Money grab, dude.

[Lily]

Was it planned to fit into the thing? Or like. Or do you think they just finished the film? They're like, well, that doesn't work. So they just.

[Josh]

They definitely weren't planning on bringing Robert Downey Jr. Back.

[Andy]

No.

[Josh]

When Endgame ended, I think that they

[Lil]

don't know how to write a movie, and so they just throw things at the wall and see what sticks. And then they're like, yeah, these guys will definitely come back and watch the same movie again. In the movie theater.

[Josh]

We don't talk like that.

[Lily]

I'm with Lily on this one.

[Andy]

I love Endgame. Endgame was amazing. So I'm excited for Doomsday.

[Lily]

I'm gonna watch it.

[Andy]

Like, entertaining, but it's like these new Marvel movies, it's like you need to know all the shows that they put out. You need to know all the movies that you don't want to watch that come out. Like the new Fantastic Four.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Not a good movie. Truthfully, I did not.

[Josh]

But they're going to be in it.

[Andy]

But they're going to be in it, and you're going to be like, what are they doing? And Then they had the new Wakanda movie. I don't know. Yeah, it's just too much.

[Josh]

It's a lot. And it's like no one else expects you to do this. No other franchise expects you to do this. Except for maybe Star wars, which is Disney. Yeah, it's a Disney problem.

[Andy]

They just don't know their audience.

[Lily]

Or they do.

[Andy]

No, they don't. Or their audience. I'm a Disney adult.

[Josh]

Yeah, I know you are. You can't stop talking about it.

[Lily]

Yeah, I've been getting all of the Disney, like, the psychology of how you break a child. You introduce their first trauma by causing a parent to die or a kid to be isolated and all this stuff. And so what they've created, a Disney adult is a kid who cannot separate from the safety they felt when they encountered their first trauma.

[Andy]

Trauma.

[Lily]

Which means when you're arguing with the Disney adult about why Disney isn't the best thing ever, you're telling the person, the only thing that made me safe isn't actually safety. So they fight it to the death.

[Lil]

I don't know if it's that hardcore, Andrew.

[Andy]

That is interesting, because I was watching 101 Dalmatians when my father left me.

[Lil]

Yeah, yeah, maybe that's. Maybe that's 0.5% of Disney adults. That can't be all Disney adults.

[Andy]

Okay, well, Disney adults watching this let us know what your trauma is.

[Lily]

But isn't it is weird that like every freaking movie we. You grew up with.

[Lil]

Oh, it is weird.

[Lily]

Parents are dead.

[Lil]

It's true.

[Lily]

Like, over and over and over again it's true.

[Josh]

We watched Wolf Walkers last night. It's on Apple tv. Irish hand drawn film. So good. Very, very good. Everyone go watch that one.

[Lily]

Dead parents.

[Andy]

Wolf Walkos.

[Josh]

Dead mom. But it's just. She's absent. She's absent. So you really don't know if she's dead or gone, but you assume she's dead.

[Andy]

Speaking of movies, what about Shrek?

[Josh]

I could take it or leave it. I just saw it in theaters last week.

[Lil]

Really?

[Josh]

No. I wish, Dude. Theatrical release of Shrek would go crazy.

[Andy]

Well, did you hear this new Gen Z lingo called Shreking?

[Josh]

Oh, yeah, it's kind of old now.

[Andy]

Is it? I mean, it's Gen Z, so it has to be kind of old, but I just heard about it.

[Josh]

That's funny.

[Andy]

It's. Shreking is a Gen Z term for dating someone you're not attracted to because you think they'll treat you better. It's called Shreking is That what you're doing? No.

[Lily]

I thought that's what you were doing.

[Andy]

Yeah. Is that what you're doing?

[Lil]

No. You're very handsome.

[Andy]

Thanks.

[Josh]

You're beautiful.

[Lily]

There's a study talking about.

[Josh]

Stop.

[Lil]

I ate too much ravioli. I'm gonna be sick.

[Andy]

You eat the whole thing?

[Lil]

No, Close to, though.

[Josh]

She's gonna turn to ogre. She eats too much ravioli.

[Lily]

Get out of my swamp.

[Josh]

It's me, Donkey.

[Lily]

Have you guys seen the Lord Farquaad theory? Because every. Every person in Shrek has, like, a history with, like, some sort of medieval. What's the word I'm looking for? Like, fairy tale. Fairy tale lore.

[Andy]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Lily]

The mirror and his height means he comes from which movie?

[Andy]

No, no. Snow White.

[Lily]

Snow White. He's got Snow White's hair. But he's also.

[Lil]

Oh, funny.

[Andy]

A munchkin. A dwarf. What are they?

[Josh]

A dwarf. What are they called now?

[Lily]

But that. That would mean.

[Josh]

What do you call those?

[Lily]

My dad.

[Andy]

What do you refer to him as?

[Josh]

What's okay to say now?

[Lily]

It changes every week.

[Andy]

I don't know.

[Josh]

Easy, Steve. Come on.

[Andy]

Oh, that's interesting, though.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Which one?

[Lily]

Well, that's. That's the debate.

[Josh]

So these definitely don't be grumpy. Grumpies make sense, I guess. Yeah, I'm trying to. Maybe we need to look at. Yeah, that obviously the hair. Snow White. Yeah, we need to. We need to analyze the mirror.

[Lily]

The mirror that he has is from the same film.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Literally has an heirloom in one of

[Lil]

the later Shrek movies there. The dwarves show up, though, with Snow White.

[Andy]

Maybe he's the son of Snow White.

[Lily]

Oh, that's what they say.

[Josh]

That's what it's. Yeah.

[Andy]

Oh, now I'm connecting it. What are you saying?

[Lil]

Yeah, we're on the same page. Joshua.

[Josh]

Yeah. They had one of Chad to have a crush on one of the guys.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lil]

Look at our brains working at the same time.

[Andy]

Oh, marriage, marriage. Speaking of the song.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Should we get into these scientists?

[Josh]

We got to, man.

[Lil]

What's happening? Okay, we've talked about them before, but

[Andy]

the major general that went missing and the two ladies connected in the same laboratory. First off, Jesse Michaels, American Alchemy. He did a video. It's about an hour and 40 minutes. He doesn't do all 11. Or it was 10, now it's 11. Actually, now it's technically 13.

[Lil]

What?

[Josh]

Really?

[Lily]

Really?

[Andy]

Yeah, I'm getting into it. But he did it on, like, maybe six of them, including Major General McCaslin and a couple others. Very detailed. Very informative. And I wanted to point out some of the things that he talked about. Cause I thought they were nuts. So where are we? Oh, yeah, dude, we got a lot to talk about. Buckle up, buckle up, buttercup. One of the scientists he talked about, he's actually an astronomer. Carl Grill. Grillmare. He was. Where was it? Was it New Mexico? Somewhere in the desert. He was a basically genius astrologists, like the four. Like he. I mean, he was making major breakthroughs in astrology. Had his own observatory on his own land, but he worked with different observatories as well. Weird story about him of how he died. This was in February. This past February. It was in December, I believe. There was a man walking on his property with a rifle. Called it in. Police come, they arrest him because the gun was not registered. He gets let out on like $3,000 bail. Has to take a gun safety course. That's it.

[Lily]

Slap on the wrist, I believe.

[Andy]

Yeah. Then it was December. January, February. So two months later, comes back to his property and shoots Carl Grill mare on his front porch.

[Lily]

Whoa.

[Andy]

No incentive, nothing. We know nothing of why he did it. Yeah, but that was it.

[Lil]

That's really strange behavior.

[Andy]

Very strange. Yeah. But Carl Jesse Michaels pointed out that he worked for the Vera, or he helped start this observatory in Chile called the Vera Rubin Observatory. And it's located in Chile, and it's meant to capture interstellar objects that are coming into our solar system.

[Lil]

Cool.

[Andy]

So that would be like the Three Eye Atlas, the Amua Mua. Remember that? A couple years ago. But it's like.

[Josh]

What's the translation on that?

[Lily]

I got nothing.

[Josh]

Okay. Yeah.

[Lil]

Star. Star.

[Andy]

More and more.

[Lily]

I think it's Fijian. I don't think it's Hawaiian.

[Josh]

Got it.

[Andy]

But so it's meant to capture that stuff. And it's saying that we've captured three interstellar interstellar objects within these past couple of years, I think in total, actually. But they're saying by the time this is up and running, we could be able to capture like 50 a year that are coming into our solar system. Within the first couple days of it getting turned on, they were able to see 2000 previously undiscovered asteroids in our solar system. But the weird thing about the Vera Rubin Observatory is that when the pictures are taken. So it takes pictures like a tile, like a. Like a grab of the night sky.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

And it compiles it. And so they just keep taking pictures to see if something's changed. But when the picture is taken, no scientist can look at it. It's actually sent to the American government, the Pentagon.

[Josh]

What, automatically?

[Andy]

Automatically, yeah. And so it's sent from Chile to a building in California which is collected by the US Government. And they look at it and they observe it and then they deem it whether or not a scientist can look at it.

[Josh]

Why? What are they looking for?

[Andy]

That's the thing, that's the question. And that's what people are saying is like these connections with these people of like what they were into, they're going, they're dying, they're going missing. There's a connection that is happening. One dude's theory, which is kind of spooky, is that he believes the apophysis, that giant meteor that's supposed to come crazy close to Earth.

[Lily]

Right.

[Andy]

He believes that it's actually going to hit Earth and all these people going missing and dying, they know it. And instead of raising alarms, they're like, let's get rid of them because we can't. Chaos will ensue.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

If people know that this is going to hit.

[Lil]

Yeah, I'm fine with that. I like that idea. Don't tell me.

[Andy]

Yeah, but he's saying that's why all these.

[Josh]

So you're advocating for these people's deaths, that what you're saying?

[Lil]

Slow down.

[Andy]

This is a global cataclysm.

[Lil]

Cataclysmic event. Right. It would be global.

[Andy]

It would be close to it.

[Lil]

Yeah, yeah. So just do it. Don't tell me.

[Andy]

Yeah, yeah. How big is it? Like 1300ft wide or something like that. Like the size of the Eiffel Tower, basically.

[Lily]

This says 1-10km wide wide would cause. Would be large enough to cause global effect.

[Lil]

That's how the Eiffel Tower is not a kilometer, is it?

[Andy]

Look it up.

[Lily]

No, I'm just saying it'd be close.

[Andy]

If it's global like anyways, 3/4 of

[Lil]

a mile is how tall the Eiffel Tower is. No way.

[Josh]

And if they're not telling people, I mean that is the smart move. Your government officials, you have underground bunkers that you know, you have certain people that are going to be classified enough to go in there cleared through and you're not going to tell anyone. You're going to get rich quick. You're going to secure everything that you possibly need and then they'll probably give us a day or two heads up. That would probably be.

[Andy]

Because if they told us, if they pirates. If they told us now.

[Josh]

Yeah, that.

[Andy]

Because it's supposed to hit. Was it 2030 or. I think 2030.

[Josh]

I think that Yeah.

[Lil]

A lot can happen in the next four years.

[Josh]

Oh, yeah. There's no elections. There's no nothing. No one care.

[Andy]

No. Yeah, but I mean, they're saying that's why all these billionaires are building their bunkers in, like, different places, like New Zealand, Hawaii, all these different stuff. But, like, another scientist that has just become unalived is Amy Eskridge.

[Lil]

Yeah.

[Andy]

And this one. This is where it starts getting, like, I guess, like a little. You kind of just have to stop for a second and be like, why is all the news talking about this now?

[Lily]

I'm gonna let you finish your. What you got cocked up. But I got some stuff.

[Andy]

I watched some videos from Amy Eskridge. So, Amy Eskridge, a young American researcher. She was 34 years old. She unalived herself. That's what they say.

[Lil]

She's one of the 11.

[Andy]

She's one of the 11. She worked on anti gravity propulsion. Yeah, propulsion. And she apparently had some major breakthroughs. She started her own institution called the Institute for Exotic Science. And she apparently made this major breakthrough with anti gravity and was on air and talked to multiple journalists saying, my life is in danger. I will never hurt myself. If I hurt myself. You know, something happened to me. And I saw this one video one time from her where she was, like, working on her computer. This is a really weird one. This room just kind of like. I don't know, man. But, like, this is interesting. She's typing, and she's like. They're scanning my hands right now to see what I'm typing. And she's like, look at my hand. It's burnt. And you could clearly see it was like a. A major sunburn on her hand.

[Lil]

Well, like with a satellite, like, with

[Andy]

a laser or something. She's like, they. They scan stuff, like, to see where my fingers are typing on the keyboard, to see what I'm talking. Because she's like, I'm not on WI Fi. My computer. Nothing's hooked up to where they can know.

[Lil]

Off grid.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Her research was unhackable where she was working. So she was saying they were using some sort of scan to get at her keystrokes.

[Andy]

And it's like, who wants her debt?

[Lil]

America.

[Andy]

Whatever agency, Whoever's trying to control propulsion. Yeah, but. And then she, like, went over to the window, and it looked like an X ray of herself on the window. So she's like, yeah, you see, they. But they're scanning me sitting at my computer. Like, she's like, you can see my spine. You can see my brain.

[Lil]

That's really bad for you.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Lil]

She was pregnant.

[Andy]

Well, she's dead now.

[Lil]

They could just use that same laser, turn it up a few degrees.

[Andy]

Zap. Probably. But yeah, she was. She was talking about all this like. It's just weird how she and like I. There's. You can't really find anything on her about like what breakthrough. She was about to go like.

[Lil]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Talk about and whatnot. The way she talked, it seemed a little kooky, a little conspiracy like how she was talking.

[Josh]

But put yourself in that position though.

[Andy]

Her father, her father was a propulsion engineer at NASA. Well, so she obviously had some credibility. Right. I would say he passed away. No. And in fact he's like, everyone stop looking into this as a conspiracy.

[Lil]

Oh.

[Andy]

He said she was in a lot of pain and she's gone now. So just stop looking into it. And you're like, oh man, I don't know.

[Josh]

But she had legit jobs, didn't she? Yeah, yeah. I mean like there's some. Yeah. I don't know. That's weird, man.

[Lily]

It almost feels like something nefarious is going on with all of the other accounts. And then they put something that's easily dismissible. It's not easily dismissible, but it makes extra. Yeah, because like in that clip you're referencing where she's typing, you see your hands. Did you notice what was all over the background in the room? No. There's like. There's like a thing of Tito's next to the computer. There's like a bottle of. There's like champagne or wine.

[Andy]

She didn't interview too. Where she was clearly intoxicated.

[Lily]

So like they're making her seem to be.

[Andy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Lily]

You know, whatever. Easily to. Easy to dismiss.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Wasn't us. It was these crazy people.

[Andy]

Yeah. It's weird. But then there's another guy. Apparently those this past week, which. It's like there's a thing. Where is it? It's like the pattern recognition. So it's like you can look at it like that. Like. Well, it's probably just now we're looking at scientists that are going missing when in fact they go missing and die every day. It's like. Well, I don't know because it seems like there's.

[Lil]

But they're connection. They were all connected or.

[Andy]

No, in some. In some fashion in the same area field.

[Lil]

I see.

[Andy]

Yeah. So it could be pattern recognition. Could not be. But this one guy, they're. They're throwing him in the mix too. This is very sad. His name is James Moffat. Moffat. I don't know how to say it.

[Josh]

My last name, Mofat.

[Andy]

But he was a engineer for NASA in propulsion, a pilot. He worked on the space shuttles, the International Space Station. This past week he was flying with him, his wife and his two sons. Son was also an engineer. Dunzo gone.

[Lil]

Awful.

[Andy]

And so it's like this is. It's just weird.

[Josh]

Yeah. It makes you wonder, is this one. If. If there is something malicious happening, Is it one big organization that's taking all these people out, or is it just a mixture of a lot of people that want a lot of secrets kept and it's all now just getting wonky.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And now people are putting the dots together or is it completely random and things are just happening?

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And now we're connecting dots.

[Andy]

Jesse Michaels broke down General McAfee. Was it McAf?

[Josh]

I don't know.

[Andy]

Yeah, whatever. No, no, that was the astronomer guy, the general that we talked about a week ago or whatever.

[Josh]

Yeah. McCaslin that went missing.

[Lily]

My memory's crap, dude.

[Andy]

But talked about his credentials and stuff. He was. I mean, if you want to talk about a person that knows every single classified information about UFOs, secret weapon programs, he was at the top of it all. He knew everything. And Jesse Michaels made the point.

[Josh]

Was it William Neal McCasland McCaslin. Yeah.

[Andy]

And it's like this, dude, this. This just doesn't happen. This guy just doesn't. You don't just go missing.

[Lily]

Sure. Like that.

[Andy]

There's. There's something behind it.

[Lily]

He's the one who went for a hike and disappeared.

[Andy]

Yes.

[Lily]

Okay.

[Andy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Lil]

Oh, yeah, I remember.

[Andy]

But he took his gun.

[Lil]

Yeah. That is so suspect.

[Andy]

He left his phone, his wallet, his glasses.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Just took his gun and hiking boots.

[Josh]

He oversaw the Air Force Research Laboratory and oversaw afrl.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Funding for the REZAS project on the afrl. Wright Patterson afb.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

So.

[Andy]

Right. Patterson. And. But his wife, she's obviously. She was also worked at, I think Wright Patterson or she was in the Navy or Air Force or something like that. And she did this Facebook post where she was like. Like, we're still looking for him. She's like, he didn't know about the. The ET bodies. Like, in fact, you know what? I bet you he was actually taken up by the mothership of an alien. And she's like, but I haven't seen any alien. It's like, it was this weird. And it kind of sounded like a. Everyone stopped making up these conspiracies. It's not about aliens.

[Lil]

She was being silly.

[Andy]

Yeah. But it was just a weird thing to say.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

I don't know. But the White House is apparently taking this very seriously.

[Lily]

See, do you think, do you think are. Or no. Yeah. Or do you think he's like, it's just a thing to like get a little cred amongst the Internet conspiracy people? Because I think, I think that's how our current administration gets things done.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lil]

Yeah, I think. Yeah. It's all. Everything is PR with this guy.

[Lily]

Like, have you seen the Joe Rogan stuff?

[Lil]

Yeah, I did. See, how is that like a priority right now? That's what I'm not.

[Andy]

Yeah, it's crazy.

[Lily]

Here's the thing, actually. No, finish where we're at and I want to talk about that because I think it's weird.

[Andy]

Yeah, Well, I mean. Yeah. So the, the FBI, the White House, they said that they're looking into it. The FBI is. They're trying to look for all connections. They said it's. It's pretty serious stuff. They're trying to identify any common patterns, determine if there's foreign involvement or national security risk. And what was, what did Trump. He said, he's like, what was this quote that he said? Oh, they're like, is this random or is it coincidence? And President Trump said, I hope it's not random or I hope it's random. Hopefully coincidence. That's what he said.

[Lil]

So both.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lil]

Oh, random. No.

[Andy]

Or I don't. I forget what they asked. But he said I hope it's random. Hopefully coincidence.

[Lil]

Yeah. I think that he's implying. Because my dad was talking about it and he is. Hey, surprisingly for the person that he is is very non conspiracy, I would say. And he, he's like, oh, it's definitely China. That's what he thinks.

[Andy]

And that is a theory.

[Lil]

Yeah, I don't think it's our own government.

[Josh]

And if that's the case though, you think they would be fighting harder to get this information out there.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And truly start looking into it.

[Andy]

Well, there's a kind of like the history repeats itself a little bit. Jesse Michaels on that video goes back to the secret program that the MI6 was doing in the UK. MI6, I think with the CIA. But it was a. Basically like a weapons program that these scientists were working on. And then all of a sudden, one by one, these scientists were dying or going missing. And the, the craziest of ways really, but not being investigated like one. This is really graphic. But this one scientist, it was ruled a. Because he tied a rope to a tree, then tied the rope around his neck and drove. So it completely.

[Josh]

Yeah. Oh yeah.

[Andy]

And they're like, yeah, that was just. It's self induced. And it's like. But then one like, like jumped off a bridge. I mean the way that these scientists died was just like, this can't be. Just like these scientists working for this one organization are just all offing themselves like this.

[Lil]

No. Yeah. Unless they learn something absolutely horrific.

[Andy]

Yeah. So they're saying either was the MI6 involved of like, we get the, we can't let this like leak out, or was it like the Soviet Russians at that time were going in and getting them.

[Lil]

Awful. Awful.

[Josh]

And you put yourself in their shoes. If you found stuff that would make you want just to take your own life like that, you think you would want to share it first. Share the information.

[Lil]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Then go ahead with your plan.

[Lil]

Yeah, that's. I suppose, I don't know all the circumstances with those gentlemen, but it's like were the people that were Talking about the 11 people that went missing and the ones that were self induced, did they write anything? Was there any literature or anything that.

[Lily]

No, all that I've seen is like the, the girl, I already forget her name, but her being like, I definitely am good in my head and not intending on self harm.

[Josh]

Yeah, that's weird, man.

[Andy]

There's also the. A real. Well weird one too that he talked about was this mother who I believe worked at Los Alamos. Her and her husband worked at Los Alamos. I believe it was Los Alamos. But she like, she went in and she was with her husband and she scanned her badge and she's like, oh, I forgot something. I'm just gonna go home or I'm gonna bring our daughter lunch or whatever. Their daughter is older. He's like, okay. And so she left. She went and dropped off lunch to her daughter and then vanished. And then her daughter came home. Her phone, her personal phone and work phone were on the table. Her wallet, all the cash was on the table. Her. Both her phones were factory reset.

[Lil]

Oh my gosh. Just like this other guy.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

And then. But they caught video camera footage of her just walking with a backpack down the interstate. And then there was a blue truck and then she was never seen again.

[Josh]

Dude. This time it seems like MK Ultra type of stuff where they like program you to do certain things and then when they call, when they snap their fingers, you snap and you black out and you just don't remember anything.

[Andy]

Well, that's what they're saying about the killer of Carl the astrologer, astronomer, whatever he is.

[Lil]

Does the guy have any recollection of shooting him or anything like that? Like, it was intentional?

[Andy]

I don't know. There's. There's literally no. Nothing I could find on, like, his testimony on why he did it. Just weird stuff. It feels like a movie.

[Lily]

Yeah. What. What was the thing where she was talking about she, like, had designations. It was like P57 or P50.

[Andy]

Yeah. That's what. When I hear that stuff, I'm like, okay. She just sounded a little kooky.

[Lily]

Yeah. Did you hear about this, Lil?

[Lil]

What?

[Lily]

So she was, like, saying that she. Did she have encounters with these.

[Andy]

No, she's saying they.

[Lily]

The research.

[Andy]

The researcher, like. Yeah.

[Lily]

So they. They encounter these individuals. They identify them as, like, P47 or P52. Yeah. And it.

[Andy]

Something like that.

[Lily]

But I forget what the P stood for.

[Andy]

It's.

[Lily]

But it's. It's like future. Yes or no? It's for the past, because they're going to the past by that amount of time. So they're from. And there's a cataclysmic event, and they come back and they're trying to do something. But. So she died, and then it seems crazy. Like, I'm not saying.

[Andy]

Stood for 40,000. 47,000 years in the future.

[Lily]

I thought it was just 47.

[Andy]

No, 47,000. Well. And that's. I'm like, okay. Like, this is.

[Lily]

Okay. I thought about.

[Lil]

Think about that. It's a cool movie idea where it's like they're from the future and they go back in time to try to advance civilization. Because when they go back to their current time, they'll be that much more advanced.

[Josh]

Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense.

[Lil]

Get on it, boys. Make a movie.

[Josh]

Steven Spielberg. Come on.

[Andy]

I think.

[Lily]

I think it's.

[Andy]

I.

[Lily]

It feels to me like. Because, like, we're in the first world, right? And it feels like this stuff shouldn't happen or isn't happening. It's. It's not, like, really a part of our reality even as we talk about it. It's just like something happening out there. But throughout history, people have off people for their own power or gain or ambition. So it's like, we know that that crap happens, but the easiest way to dismiss it is, like, mix in some crazy.

[Lil]

Yeah.

[Lily]

And then there's just some wackos that.

[Andy]

It's just weird that this is all happening. And then you got Congressman Tim Burchett saying, like, this stuff that would come out would basically flip society on its head.

[Lil]

Yeah. And that's okay. We'll just Keep it in.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Well, it's just like. Well, he's saying that they know about something.

[Lil]

Yeah.

[Andy]

That would alter people's mindset on reality itself.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lil]

Does Tim want it to come out or he does. Okay.

[Andy]

Because he's like. Because one of the things he said was like, well, this would. This is anti Christian. That they're saying, this is anti Christian. We can't release this. And he's like, no, it's not.

[Lily]

Do you think, like, the Sam Altman stuff could be related? Have you seen this stuff where they're talking about. He's. People are claiming. He's said that there are portals they're opening with the use of AI intentionally, like summoning.

[Andy]

I saw something like that.

[Lily]

I keep seeing it. I need to dive in.

[Lil]

He's just being silly. I think that he's playing into it big time. I think it's so funny that even Tim Dillon made a thing about it where he's like, did you see that Peter Thiel is doing a seminar on the anti Christ. The Antichrist is giving a seminar on the. Like, these big guys, they just play into it.

[Lily]

But that's also like, the best way to diminish something that's really happening.

[Lil]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Lil]

Well, they're giving us paralysis. I mean, like, the list comes out. Aliens are real. Our government is paying psyops to make these huge, you know, violent demonstrations in our country. And it's like, what do we do about it?

[Lily]

Doomsday. Avengers.

[Andy]

Yeah. What are you talking about?

[Josh]

Yeah, we just go.

[Lily]

Distraction.

[Josh]

Just go to the movie theater.

[Lil]

I just spend more money at Target.

[Andy]

Part of the 13. This will be the last guy I talk about. Because this is also a weird and sad one. David Whitlock, he was a UFO researcher. So not like working with NASA or like. But a very famous UFO researcher. Okay, this is what he said. This happened this week. But this is what he said two days before he built himself.

[Lily]

No. Every day that I have on Earth is a gift and a blessing, and I'm very grateful for that because, frankly, people are disappearing.

[Josh]

Scientists are going missing.

[Lily]

Now they're saying they're going to investigate this. The president himself is saying they're going to look into this and see if anything's going on.

[Josh]

It's a little bit scary, I gotta say. It's a little bit scary.

[Lily]

But you guys knew that I might still show up, even though it was last minute. And I've had a really rough week. Like, you know, that's kind of like every week, but somehow we keep on making it. Through all this.

[Josh]

I don't know, man. It's so hard to believe that our government would do this kind of thing. But also, but, but like, but in this way, like, if you're going to make something believable, like, cause an accident, it seems like it's like the whole Epstein, you know, the blank, you know, Mr. Guy didn't, you know, off himself. That was a huge meme for so long. And it's like, how are we. Are we that gullible?

[Andy]

But here's the thing, too. It's like, I think they know that they can just get away with. Yeah, they know we can because the emails were released. It had very important people on it.

[Lil]

Yeah.

[Andy]

With really terrible satanic ritual abuse stuff on it.

[Josh]

No repercussions.

[Andy]

Nothing.

[Lil]

Yeah, nothing.

[Andy]

And like, look at. We can. We can get away with anything.

[Lil]

But then, like, Trump is like, it's a hoax. All of it's a lie. And then Melania is like, I demand that the President. Did you see this clip? I demand that the president investigate the list to. For support of the victims,

[Andy]

the president

[Lil]

or whatever, this administration. And it's like, oh, you mean you.

[Andy]

I didn't see that.

[Lily]

No.

[Josh]

It was weird timing. A lot of people were really thrown off that she just came out there. Like, no one's asking questions about her or anything. But then she comes out and does that, and it makes me think I'm just going down this rabbit trail that. Like this at like, what if an asteroid does hit? And like, they do know something we don't know. I mean, Trump's line of this will be the last time you ever have to vote. Gosh, it's like, yeah, I never thought about that.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

I mean, especially if they've made a deal and it's like. And they pass on this administration and like, I don't know, man. This is all.

[Lil]

Did he really say that?

[Josh]

Yeah, he literally said that during.

[Andy]

People are saying, well, the context, you have to vote. They're saying this the last time you have to vote for him. Because, like. But it's the way he said it was just like, what do you mean? The last time we have to vote?

[Josh]

No, yeah, he. The way he said it, it was like, it would be. It would be the last election. Presidential election.

[Andy]

This is kind of getting into like a. I don't know if we can talk. We're trying to avoid trigger words on this podcast.

[Lil]

Doing a very bad job. I mean, we do, like, we did

[Josh]

okay for a couple weeks, everyone who's listening. And then last Episode. We talked about something two episodes ago. We talked about pretty heavy subject for a long time, and then we saw that. Yeah, like the effects.

[Andy]

Yeah, effects. So we'll talk crazy. We'll dive more into this on Patreon because there's one thing I really want to talk about that is actually pretty insane regarding everything that's happening right now and, like, why a certain president would be doing the things that he's doing.

[Josh]

And we're not saying that to trick you to join or spend money to get on YouTube, but it's like, we legitimately can't say certain things because they're censoring our freedom of speech. Which is crazy.

[Lil]

Which is crazy. Which is crazy.

[Andy]

Which is crazy.

[Lil]

I'll allow you to talk about it on Patreon because I took an anti anxiety today. I can handle it.

[Josh]

She'll allow it. Don't love it.

[Andy]

All right, guys, we'll talk more about the weird things when we get back from this ad.

[Lily]

Bye. You want to hear a funny short story?

[Josh]

We should always cut in after the break with a fake laughter.

[Lil]

Hold on. Move your laptop just in case.

[Josh]

This is a risky move.

[Lily]

Put it back for suspense.

[Josh]

It's a risky move. Wow.

[Lil]

Oh, my gosh.

[Josh]

Good shot. But I lost confidence. You lost confidence in yourself not being clutch with the laptop. There.

[Lily]

True.

[Josh]

If you would have believed in yourself, you would have left the laptop.

[Lily]

Do it again.

[Lil]

I think it would have clipped the laptop.

[Lily]

All right, you ready?

[Lil]

Yeah.

[Lily]

In 1997, a man living in Devon, England.

[Lil]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Became convinced he discovered something unusual in his garden. He had figured out that he was communicating with owls and had figured out that how to get them to respond. So he's like, practicing an owl call, similar to what I do to, you know, unintentionally take off my neighbors. He's going out. And it started out as a curiosity, and he begins to do it. Night after night, they're talking back. And so it becomes his routine. I'm going to have a conversation with this owl. It went on for months, listening to replies, documenting what he thought were patterns. Some calls were consistent enough. He thought he was interacting with them. Eventually, the truth came out. His wife discovered that the neighbor had also been making owl noises from his own garden. And for months, the two men had been talking an owl.

[Josh]

So funny.

[Lil]

Oh, my word.

[Josh]

That's amazing.

[Andy]

That is so funny.

[Josh]

Honey, the owl's back.

[Andy]

All right.

[Lily]

And since I completely ripped that story shout out to fact on Instagram.

[Andy]

That's so funny.

[Josh]

That's great.

[Andy]

No, it's Also funny is question going.

[Josh]

Question going. Lily. Where the questions are fresh out of mind.

[Lil]

Slow down. Everybody slow down. Okay? Would you rather be tortured for 15 hours straight or learn a new board game with any people? With other people that know the board game already?

[Lily]

15 hours.

[Andy]

You said 15 hours?

[Lil]

Yeah.

[Lily]

What's the torture?

[Josh]

This makes me so mad. This question makes me so mad.

[Andy]

Why?

[Josh]

I choose the board game because it's fun. Board games are fun.

[Lily]

There's nothing worse than, like, thinking just going over to someone's house to chill. Maybe there's a game on. And then someone's like, I got apples to apples.

[Lil]

I'm like, and everyone there has already played it. You're the only one that doesn't know how to play.

[Lily]

I've left so many hangouts because apples. Apples popped out.

[Lil]

Okay, here's my real question.

[Josh]

That's a lame game.

[Lil]

I like. I love apples. Apples.

[Lily]

I haven't even tried.

[Josh]

We need to talk about this a little bit more. Board games. Yes. They should not be brought out in the middle of a hangout where they're not expecting board games.

[Lil]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Board games should only be invited and brought out when you've invited people who want to play.

[Lil]

Like a game night.

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah. Like I'm expecting. But then there's people that show up to game nights who don't listen to the instructions and don't care.

[Lil]

Yeah, that's.

[Josh]

And that's crazy to me. There's nothing more irritating than that right there. I love playing board games.

[Lil]

I like playing board games, too.

[Josh]

And when people commit to it, like, I want to learn this game. Let's do it. It's fun. Like, I was. Alan and Chelsea came over one time. They taught us how to play settles of catan. I was like, I don't know if I can get this game. I got into it. One of the best games ever.

[Lil]

I've never played it, but people that play catan. Catan love it.

[Josh]

Yeah, whatever.

[Lily]

I think I'm too competitive.

[Lil]

Alan's having a baby. I saw. Perfect announcement.

[Lily]

But I have to be like, it has to be that serious. Where, like, everybody's like, I will stay here till five in the morning to finish the game. Like, I'll play poker that way. But if it's like one of those, some people care, some people don't. The rules are bending. I'm too. Like. It just aggravates me too much to enjoy it.

[Josh]

I. I want. I want to find a group of Josh talking. A group of friends, a large, like, 10 people that just, like, Love board games. Next weekend, I'm having a date night with a couple who literally. Our only thing is we're going over there, we're doing meat on the barbecue, and we're sitting down, and we're solving a crime. One of those crime board games.

[Lil]

Oh, that's so fun.

[Josh]

That's the only thing we're doing all night.

[Lil]

Does Kelsey know?

[Josh]

No, of course she does.

[Andy]

I used to love board games. Why don't you need more trauma?

[Josh]

They're so fun. They're literally one of the greatest joys of my life. And I don't get to.

[Andy]

It was my joy, too.

[Josh]

What happened?

[Andy]

My dad, he took away that joy.

[Lil]

Why? He didn't let you win.

[Josh]

Does he get angry?

[Andy]

He got mean.

[Josh]

Yeah. Yeah. I had an uncle like that, and it was brutal.

[Andy]

We were playing as kids. We were playing. Sorry. They're like, dad, come play. Come play.

[Lil]

Sorry. Come on.

[Andy]

He's like, no, I don't like board games. And my mom's. Steve, come on. Come play with the kids.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Comes down. He's like, all right, I'll play. He's playing, and he's getting really into it, and we're just kind of like, oh, yeah, this isn't so funny anymore. And like, he was like, he's poking. He's like, oh, you sad. You sad that you didn't get that? And you're like, what's going on?

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

And then like, boom. Sorry. Never want to play a board game after that.

[Josh]

Yeah, that's tough. Yeah, that's tough. Do you remember?

[Andy]

And he wasn't sorry.

[Josh]

Yeah, that was a sarcastic one.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

If you're watching.

[Andy]

This is why I'm in therapy.

[Josh]

He's not watching. Do you remember?

[Andy]

Does. He gets it?

[Josh]

You remember the alien game?

[Andy]

Oh, yeah, we played during COVID It was very fun.

[Josh]

We played that almost every night.

[Lil]

I know. Covid was awesome, dude.

[Josh]

Covid was. Covid was awesome.

[Lil]

COVID Lockdown. The best. Okay, here's my real question. Would you rather constantly leave a trail of slime behind you like a snail wherever you move? And the only way you get a break from your slime is if you hold a stranger's pinky for three seconds.

[Josh]

How long of a break? Okay, okay, Cool, cool, cool.

[Lil]

So you. But you have to find a stranger to hold their pinky for three seconds, unexplained and unannounced. Just grab them by the pinky.

[Josh]

Six hours. Okay.

[Lil]

And it's only three seconds.

[Andy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Lil]

Or would you rather have salt water spout out of the top of your head like a dolphin. Constantly. And then your break. Your six hour break is if you have lingering eye contact. Three seconds with a stranger and say, you look just like my grandma.

[Andy]

The pinky thing. The slime.

[Lil]

Who's picking up after your slime?

[Andy]

Oh, man, I'll pick my own slime up. The holding. Grabbing someone's pinky. That's the easiest thing to do. Can I see your hand real quick?

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Thanks.

[Josh]

You don't think socially you would have

[Andy]

a problem with that eye contact for sure. I can't do that.

[Josh]

Let's think about this. So this is four strangers a day. If you're wanting a constant break.

[Lil]

Yes.

[Josh]

If you sleep for more than six hours, you wake up either completely drenched in water. Constant. Like your house is flooding outdoor doors

[Andy]

every single night at midnight.

[Josh]

Yeah, that. That's the. That's the commitment. That's the commitment.

[Lil]

Genius.

[Josh]

And they just put in the fridge and that's lunch next day.

[Lil]

I mean, because, like, when you're. When you're at home, you're kind of. It's got to be stressful because you know your neighbors, they're not strangers. You have to go out and seek a stranger.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Just get a sketchy, like, Airbnb RV in my backyard.

[Josh]

I think the water is more useful. I'll do water.

[Lil]

That's what I was saying, because I was thinking about the cleaning benefits of it being salt water. And salt water is good for cleaning.

[Andy]

You can't work on electronics. You can't be in your car. Everything's gonna rust.

[Josh]

I'm gonna time this out so I don't. I only use it as convenient times. Down here in Florida, they have saltwater pools. I could literally make this a business.

[Lil]

True.

[Josh]

I'm just sitting there while scrolling on my doom. Scrolling on my phone, just filling up a pool.

[Lil]

You don't want slime in your house.

[Lily]

All right?

[Andy]

You can make it fun. You can have the kids, like, slip and slide on it.

[Josh]

It.

[Lily]

You ever seen Flubber? Love Flubber?

[Lil]

Actually, no.

[Lily]

Flubber.

[Lil]

I borrowed it from Blockbuster one time and I never ended up watching it.

[Andy]

It's one of the best.

[Josh]

It's such a fun, like as a. As a kid watching that movie is the best.

[Andy]

Your imagination.

[Josh]

Robin Williams.

[Lil]

I brought. I saw the COVID They always had it on display at our Blockbuster.

[Josh]

Oh, it's the.

[Lil]

Even when it was old, they had it on display at our Blockbuster.

[Andy]

And it's like one of the first introductions to AI.

[Josh]

Oh, that's true. Yeah. Yeah. Do you remember the opening scene? The egg, like, making breakfast, like the big machine that he had.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

So cool.

[Andy]

It's one of the best.

[Josh]

So good.

[Lil]

Would our girls like it?

[Andy]

Oh, yeah.

[Josh]

Oh, they'd love it.

[Lil]

Are they old enough?

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah, for sure.

[Andy]

Wait, here's what I beat.

[Josh]

There's that one scene.

[Andy]

Oh, the one scene.

[Josh]

Yeah, that. That one scene.

[Andy]

Andrew. Gotta.

[Josh]

Real. Andrew gotta show us that real.

[Andy]

No, Andrew.

[Josh]

And show us how to feel.

[Lily]

All right, start out with the red cape.

[Andy]

Red cape.

[Lily]

I don't know if I. It's only 10 seconds long. I don't know if I've showed you guys this one before.

[Andy]

Do you need audio?

[Lil]

When do I click it?

[Lily]

No, no audio on the red cape.

[Andy]

All right, ready? Three, two, one.

[Lily]

So we got a bull fighter, which. This stuff's crazy to me to be that close to, you know, apparent danger.

[Josh]

They've never heard.

[Andy]

Oh, how do you always see them earlier?

[Lily]

She clicks it so fast. This next one needs audio. And I.

[Josh]

Crazy.

[Lil]

Do you think he got gourd?

[Andy]

Give me that.

[Josh]

Look pretty straight on that white gourd right there.

[Lily]

I mean, that dude just got.

[Andy]

You could also do make more sense if you did it.

[Lily]

I will have to edit some language, but this is just the funniest.

[Josh]

Well, now they know there's language in it, Andrew.

[Andy]

Yep. All right, ready? Three, two, one, go. Perfect.

[Lil]

Oh, no.

[Andy]

Oh, no.

[Lil]

Oh, no.

[Josh]

Oh, that's terrifying.

[Andy]

Hang on, hang on. Hang on.

[Josh]

You look like Genghis Gone there for a second.

[Andy]

Hang on.

[Lily]

Oh, no.

[Josh]

Oh, no. The panic.

[Andy]

Oh, my goodness.

[Lily]

Watch. Watch what he starts doing.

[Josh]

Dude, none of y' all have a. What are you.

[Andy]

We get something to poke it, bro.

[Josh]

None of these good old boys have a pocket knife.

[Andy]

Oh, still clip.

[Josh]

That's why that's good.

[Andy]

Hang on.

[Josh]

My bad.

[Andy]

I thought that was going to be funnier than was almost killed you.

[Josh]

Oh, my goodness.

[Andy]

That's so scary.

[Lily]

You know, the panic that would set in and then he starts punching it.

[Lil]

Why,

[Andy]

man, speaking of crazy.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

And speaking of Jesse Michaels. I love Jesse Michaels. I'm so excited to have him on our podcast one day.

[Josh]

I'm glad he's never thrown shade at us at anything for not.

[Andy]

He said he likes our podcast, right? If it was our podcast.

[Josh]

Dude, Pico just got another snake, by the way.

[Andy]

Dang.

[Lil]

Dang.

[Josh]

She's a snake hunter, bro. My bad. I just got.

[Andy]

It's crazy how dogs just instinctively know

[Lily]

how to do that.

[Andy]

Yeah, Frank and Dutch both, dude.

[Josh]

I used to work at a camp, and we'd. We'd. Every time we Say Lexi.

[Andy]

Get it?

[Josh]

She would know there's a snake. And so she would just like, she would run all the way across the hill and she would grab onto it and she would shake it like crazy, but she'd let go. And so we're laughing. She's like shaking a copperhead and she's going crazy shaking it. And then suddenly she'd swing it right toward us. Us, putting us all in danger. Terrible.

[Lil]

Are copperheads venomous to dogs?

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lil]

Two dogs.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

And they were sick in it.

[Andy]

On it.

[Josh]

Yeah. She's got bit several times and she just got swollen up and she's fine.

[Andy]

Immune.

[Josh]

She's tough girl. She's a tough camp dog. She lived like 15 years.

[Andy]

I urge everyone to go watch the new documentary. I think you have to rent it on Amazon or you can find a site where you can do it for free.

[Josh]

What? Those exist?

[Andy]

But Amazon, it's like, I think like four bucks maybe. But it's Bob Lazar's documentary, S4 that

[Josh]

just came out, right?

[Andy]

Yeah, yeah, I watched it. I'm like, this is wild. Really crazy because they, they, they did everything. I think they made scales of the UFOs. They did everything. Like, like CJI kind of thing where it's like everything that he experienced, they both gave visuals to it. Yeah, this is wild. This is really cool to watch.

[Josh]

Awesome.

[Andy]

But there's a couple things in. I'm just like, this is insane. But then he went on Jesse Michaels podcast and it's like a four hour podcast.

[Josh]

Holy moly.

[Andy]

And they talk about everything and I was just completely blown away by it. But there's one, there's a couple things that stuck out. Well, one, remember Logan Paul years ago, he's like, I. There was this guy that had this UFO footage he off. Logan Paul offered to buy it for a lot of money. The guy's like, no way. He's like, I do. I don't want anyone to see this. Logan Paul's like, well, can I see it? Logan Paul secretly records it.

[Lil]

He's a punk.

[Josh]

What do we expect?

[Lil]

And he never, he probably never even paid that guy the million dollars.

[Andy]

No, I don't know if it was a million. It was something crazy.

[Lil]

Stinking.

[Andy]

But I am appreciative of him filming this because he just released it.

[Josh]

No way.

[Andy]

On Jesse Michaels podcast on that pack.

[Josh]

Jake Paul. I mean, Logan Paul did.

[Andy]

Logan Paul did. Because Logan Paul, just like me, saw the S4 documentary and Babazar's describing this UFO. When he goes out, this is when he gets caught. But like when he goes out, brings his wife and his buddy and his wife out to the desert in Nevada because he's like, I know when the UFO is going to fly. I saw the list of like, the, the flight dates.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

So he brought them out there. I think like three or four times he brought them out there. And every time it was the disc, but it was at night. And like, when it turns on, it glows orange. Like it's like the plasma around is like. But it's completely silent. And they said it's like it, like, it almost looks like it's on the ocean. Of, like, how it just rocks like this, just doing this. But of how it can jump. It's just like boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Like it's like it avoid. There's like no gravity. It's like it creates its own time bubble, but it glows orange. And they showed it on the S4 of, like, what it, what Babazar saw. So they recreated it. Logan Paul saw that. That's exactly the video I recorded.

[Josh]

No way.

[Andy]

And so he showed it on the Jesse Michael podcast. I'll send it to you guys.

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah. Screen record it.

[Andy]

Yeah, sick. But it's exactly like it. And this UFO footage was apparently filmed in the Nevada desert outside of Area 51. And it's, it's kind of hard to see, actually. Plug it in so we can hear it. Plug it in.

[Lily]

Where'd you send it?

[Andy]

Ninja. Oh, it's still sending.

[Josh]

That's crazy, though, that he finally released it.

[Andy]

Yeah. All right, ready?

[Josh]

I'm done. Got it yet?

[Lily]

And they can't be mad about us showing stolen footage because it's still stolen footage.

[Andy]

Oh, it's Logan Paul's footage that he stole from somebody else.

[Josh]

Right. Three, two, one.

[Lily]

Dashboard.

[Andy]

And you see something very clearly illuminating. Like, so that's the dashboard that is being filmed. They're like, hunkered underneath the car, glowing about, whispering.

[Josh]

Like, I, I, I think it's out there. Like, I don't know what it is.

[Andy]

Maybe we should go out.

[Josh]

And, and, and they're like, they're like kind of scared. The batter.

[Andy]

Then something appears just beyond the glass.

[Josh]

Holy moly.

[Andy]

It looks exactly like what they made in the documentary S4.

[Josh]

Really?

[Andy]

The craft is hovering extremely close to the car. It's orange and slightly wobbling or undulating in place as if it's on a wave.

[Josh]

You can hear the two guys whisper.

[Andy]

I think that's pretty much it.

[Lil]

That don't look like no spaceship to me.

[Andy]

But if you explain, if you were to see the S4. But also people that talk about they see these orbs. Typically they describe them as like orange or green or blue or whatever.

[Lil]

Yeah.

[Andy]

But orange is in the mix of orbs that they see.

[Josh]

And you're in the middle of the night and you see that thing floating above you, you don't think that's a spacecraft or something.

[Andy]

And your whole dashboard lights up in

[Josh]

your car, you think that's just a normal thing.

[Lil]

That's crazy. Crazy.

[Josh]

There's something more to that.

[Andy]

But I'm like, that. And then Bob is like, yeah, that's exact. He's like, I think that's exactly the craft that we were working on.

[Lil]

So the underside of it is all illuminated. Or the whole thing is.

[Andy]

It glows. Yeah, the whole thing glows. Orange LEDs. But there's this one thing that I can't stop thinking about since I've watched this in the documentary and they talk a little bit about it on the podcast. Out of this craft, they took the device that would create the anti gravity effect. So it was like this disc, this like sphere, half a sphere thing on this metal box. It was attached to like an alternator. And then like this tube looking thing. And the scientists, if you spin this tube slightly, that half the sphere that's on the table, you can't put your hands on it. If he said it's like a magnet that repels anything, he says it's just like this elastic force that you can't touch it. It's creating like this anti gravity. But on the end of this tube, they did this experiment to where he's like, watch this. He told Bob's art, check this out. Gets a candle, lights it on fire, puts it in the path of the hollow part of the tube, spins it slightly. The flame's doing this and stays still. The flames are not moving at all. I was like, that's wild. What is that about, guys? Like, check this out. Removes the candle. Where the light was, is just a dark void. He said the best way you could describe it was like a little black hole. There was nothing there.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

And then he said, and then we did an experiment where we put a watch in it. Like a ticking watch. Boom. Stop working. Stop moving.

[Josh]

They put it into the black hole.

[Andy]

No, they put it into the path. So get rid of the candle. They put it in the path of this tube. Clock stops running. As soon as they take it out, it starts running again. And Bob Lazar's under the impression, he's like, everyone's talking about Anti gravity. Anti gravity. He's like, I think it's a completely different force that no one has ever discovered or talked about. It's like some sort of manipulation of time, but it's a force. He's like, all we know is gravity and no gravity. But he's like, I really believe it's something different.

[Josh]

Yeah, it's gotta be.

[Lil]

What do you think it is, Josh?

[Andy]

I think it's just. It's some sort of manipulation on time.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Because if you think about these UFOs and stuff where he talks about it looks like it just skips. It's like they can almost jump through time. I don't know.

[Josh]

It's weird, man. That would be the next step to change and manipulate.

[Andy]

And if you're like, to go down the weird rabbit hole of like. Well, are they like fallen angels or demons or whatever? It's like they are technically eternal beings. And like, do they have some sort of capacity to where they can. Like, it's a dimensional thing. This sounds so wacky. But, like, are they able to achieve. Do they know of this force that exists in this different realm or dimension that affects time? And can they make it into a machine to where they can in fact come in and out?

[Josh]

That's its fuel.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Yeah. Interesting.

[Andy]

I don't know, but you guys should watch it. It's very fast.

[Josh]

Gonna have to now. Yeah.

[Andy]

And I fully believe Bobazar. Like, there's. There's a while where I'm just like. I don't know. It kind of just seems like he's just. I don't know.

[Josh]

It makes me wonder though, like, if, like, why are these scientists going missing and end up dying? But then you have people like, like Bob Lazar that are releasing so many crazy secrets. I don't wish any ill will toward the guy at all. Like, obviously it's awesome what he's doing.

[Andy]

He only talked about the things that he knew.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

But he didn't make any, like, insane breakthroughs. He's just like, yeah, I worked at. He was for a highly classified facility where he was on a ufo.

[Josh]

He was just a witness.

[Lil]

It's possible that this stuff that he's talking about is so dated compared to what. Yeah, the elites have that. It doesn't matter to them that he is sharing.

[Josh]

That's obsolete knowledge almost. Yeah.

[Andy]

But the craziest thing too is how. I mean, just like so much proof to validate, like you talked about, that they use this. This thing. It ran off of element 115 and people were like, that doesn't even exist. That's not even an element. Turns out it is, in fact an element. It was just undiscovered. And so he was talking about, this is what we used, element 115 to power this thing. And it took until like, maybe a couple of years ago. They're like, oh, element 115 does in fact exist. It's crazy.

[Lil]

Very cool.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

That sphere didn't look like that, did it? No, no, no.

[Andy]

It was a. It was a full ufo.

[Lily]

I'm talking about the. The.

[Andy]

Oh, no.

[Lily]

Okay.

[Andy]

No, it was like a half dome kind of thing.

[Lily]

Gotcha.

[Josh]

Pink red ball pink. It's peach. Sugar free.

[Andy]

What is that?

[Lily]

This is the one they found in Florida. There's a family the. Or they call this the bets sphere. Or basically they were. There was a brush fire on their property in Florida. They go out there, they're putting out the fire, and they find this metal sphere. It's like, almost perfect. There's, like, not Mars. There's no, like, welding marks. It's just a perfect sphere. And the field was on fire. That was weird. So they take it home. Like, it's. It's cooled down. And then they. They set it somewhere in their house. And it began pinging, like, metallic, like, pings. And they're like, what the heck? And then it started rolling, but, like, not in a way that made sense with, like, it was an old house. Like, a lot of the naysayers, like, oh, it was just unlevel and it was rolling. They were like, it was like changing directions on its own. And so is. Is that something to be said? They've, like, studied it. They're like, yeah, it's just a metal ball. But they were like, well, then tell me, why was it vibrating? Why was it moving? Like, it was doing things that didn't make sense to them. Apparently in the area, there's another company that, like, at a chemical plant, like, it's a valve. They. There's a really similar sized metal sphere. And then shortly after this one discovered they were like, oh, no, it's one of these. I just found one in my field. And so the naysayers will say, you know, there's nothing to it. The dude just found a metal ball and is claiming he's trying to, like, ride the alien height. But then it's weird that, like, how many people are finding, like, the same metal ball in their field? It feels like someone else was like, nope, this is all it is. Just to put the story away.

[Andy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Lily]

So, like, you can decide where you want to be on that. But it's weird.

[Andy]

Nothing. Like, they didn't test it or anything.

[Lily]

They said it was just a stainless sphere, but the fact that it was rolling, I mean, the dude.

[Andy]

It's like the booty sphere.

[Lily]

Yeah, the dude died on that hill. He was like, I'm telling. Not literally. He was like, like, he's like, I'm telling you, it moved like, like I, I would want to disappear from being known if they did a scan, you know, like, like, that's, that's the thing to me is if, like is if you knew it was a bearing, you're not going come test it.

[Andy]

That was a giant bearing.

[Lily]

Well, they exist. They exist. Like they really do for this like chemical plant valve. It's like a pressure thing. But like, I would come up with some reason to never let you scan that thing. Thing, because I know as soon as you scan it, you know, they were like, what is it? And so they scanned it and they continued to propagate the alien story. But. Yeah, that's right.

[Andy]

In Florida. As soon as you said that it started moving, I thought of the Iron Giant. So maybe it's part of the Iron Giant.

[Lily]

Dude from something underrated.

[Josh]

All the metal starts moving towards it.

[Andy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Josh]

It's weird.

[Andy]

I don't know.

[Josh]

That is tonight.

[Andy]

If they did a live action Iron Giant, life would be complete. I love the Iron Giant.

[Lily]

Boltman should fund that. They're trying to get people on board with AI.

[Josh]

Yeah, they made that AI trailer and it was so good.

[Andy]

Very good.

[Josh]

Oh, I want it.

[Andy]

I got the VHS when I was little where it had the toy action figure in the vhs.

[Lily]

Have you seen that?

[Andy]

So cool.

[Lil]

Iron Giant. Yes.

[Lily]

Okay.

[Josh]

The mom's Jennifer Aniston. I didn't realize that until I was an adult.

[Lil]

No way.

[Josh]

Yep.

[Andy]

Yeah. And the. The boy is Adam Sandler.

[Josh]

Yep.

[Lil]

Is he really?

[Andy]

No, no, no.

[Lil]

Relax everybody.

[Andy]

Speaking of Iron Giant.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

There's this phenomena. Phenomena where that I just learned about. Apparently it's been happening since people started smoking dmt. Oh, but the good old days. It's possible these people report being locked out of the DMT realm.

[Lily]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Lil]

Pardon?

[Josh]

What do you mean? Like they smoke it and they can't go. They can't access it.

[Andy]

Not only can they not access it, but the creatures, the entities in there, which they refer to them as machine elves.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lil]

Pardon?

[Andy]

That's what the. This guy, Terrence McKenna, he was apparently a huge DMT researcher and he started referring to him as machine elves. But it's the entities that live within the DMT realm. But these people, they go in and these machine elves are like, get out. You're no longer allowed in here.

[Lil]

Why?

[Andy]

They don't know.

[Lil]

No explanation.

[Andy]

Yeah. And it's like, well, people are like, well, because you got to respect the realm. You gotta be.

[Lil]

I love that.

[Andy]

But these, these machine elves are like, mean about it. They're like, get out. You're not allowed in here. In fact, your soul is damned forever.

[Lil]

Oh, yeah.

[Josh]

I mean, this is like a, this

[Andy]

is like an evil, like, get out. And so these people talk about, like they can go in and this realm that they're in, it feels like for thousands of years they're in this realm, just like learning from these machine elves. And it's like, but when they go back in, these machine elves are like, mean to them, nodding them back in. And it's like they're in the waiting room for just a couple minutes and they're out. Super weird.

[Lily]

I watched a video where a dude was like, no matter how much I do, he was like, I, I, I can't get back. It does nothing anymore.

[Lil]

Yeah, how about don't do that stuff maybe.

[Andy]

Yeah, maybe don't do the DMT realm.

[Josh]

Hey, maybe be cool. You get invited to the DMT realm. Be cool about it. It's like you invite your buddies to the club and one goes a little out of control and has to get kicked out and the bouncer won't let him in anymore.

[Lil]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Makes total sense that we have those rules on Earth. We have those rules in the DMT universe. Chill out, dude. Just be cool.

[Lily]

Be cool, man.

[Josh]

I just got, I just got, we just got in.

[Andy]

Hey, what are you doing?

[Josh]

And stay out. That's crazy, dude. Imagine bouncers and getting kicked out, like not being cool enough to get into the DMT realm.

[Lil]

Does anybody have a universal experience? Like, everyone knows what these machine elves are.

[Andy]

Yeah, they, that. And that's the weird thing about dmt, that these experiments, it's that these people all see the same entities.

[Lily]

I've talked, I've talked to somebody who's, who's done it. They're like, yeah, they're like, they're like. Or they experience like the crystal creatures.

[Andy]

Yeah. And there's different types of creatures. There's like light, there's like the snake and there's, that's what Hancock experiences. Graham Hancock, but he does ayahuasca.

[Lily]

That's. Yeah, that's how, yeah.

[Andy]

And then there's the machine elves. There's just A bunch of different creatures that everyone sees, and it's like, that's not a coincidence.

[Lil]

When I had my academy trip, I saw lots of different. It was the same creature, but lots of different. Different things happening to that creature.

[Josh]

Hey, at least you were allowed in. At least your name was on the list.

[Lily]

She's cool.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Yeah, she's cool. She's cool. In her hand.

[Josh]

Yeah, my friend knows her. She's on that. You're on the pot. Yeah, she's on that pot. I watched. Remember, I showed you that reel one time?

[Andy]

We got a lot of stuff to show you. Come with us. Who's this weirdo?

[Josh]

Like, the person. I'm surprised, Josh, your little, you know, like, chauffeur through the ketamine trip was allowed in. That's good.

[Lil]

I know was good, dude.

[Lily]

Somebody's high watching this podcast and tripped,

[Lil]

dude. I have, like, after that experience, I have a phobia of taking anything. Like, if I. If I get a drug at a hospital or something like that. I'm scared.

[Josh]

Yeah. How many milligrams of this ibuprofen? I can't go back, man. I can't go back.

[Andy]

Speaking of machine elves, do you. I need to hear what you have to say about Power Rangers.

[Lil]

Wait, we never talked about Joe Rogan, though, too.

[Andy]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Lil]

And that's a good segue.

[Andy]

It was the. What they passed that law for, the dmt, all that stuff for veterans to use for medical use.

[Lily]

Is it dmt?

[Andy]

DMT was part of that, I believe.

[Lily]

Was it? Okay, so using basically, psychoactive drugs for the sake of helping people, like, break addiction or things like PTSD and a bunch of, like, former military people had exhausted American medical resources. We're going to this clinic in Mexico and, like, not becoming addicts, not doing anything crazy. Apparently, the trip that you go on when you go there is like. Like, you have to have a decent heart because, like, it's physically demanding. Like, it's not, like, a fun euphoric experience where you, like, get healed.

[Andy]

It's not like Woodstock.

[Lily]

Yeah, it's a. It's a brutal experience. Anyways, I'm. I don't know the science. I'm not, like, saying it. It in itself is a bad thing. What's crazy to me is that Rogan can shoot Trump a text and say, hey, this is helping a bunch of my friends. You could look into it. And then Trump, the next day is like, well, what do you want? You want FDA approval? He's like, yeah, that'd be great. And he goes, you got it.

[Lil]

I know.

[Lily]

And I'm like, hold on. Like, now, that could mean we're going to begin the research, but to already do a press release talking about it? It's like, you didn't fast track that research. Like, the research can't be done, so you shouldn't be talking about it yet. And I'm not saying the research doesn't exist, but if it did exist, why was it buried for so long?

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

So there's just. Either way you look at it, it's nuts how it's happening.

[Andy]

It's a conflicting issue for me because it's like, I have heard stories of, like, people like veterans especially, having severe ptsd, anxiety, depression, doing ayahuasca, dmt, all that stuff. And like, literally it's gone. Like, they no longer suffer from ptsd. But I'm like, scary.

[Lil]

Yeah, maybe, like, is that demonic?

[Andy]

I mean, it's just like, I. It's.

[Josh]

I don't know, maybe we just treat our, you know, veterans better. Yeah, maybe we make that a priority.

[Lil]

Maybe we stop going to war and stuff.

[Josh]

No.

[Andy]

Oh, you're. You were injured for fighting for a country. Sorry, we can't pay anything, but you can smoke DMT now.

[Josh]

It's free.

[Lily]

There you go, buddy.

[Andy]

Get out there. They kicked me out.

[Lily]

Dang it. There was another drug that they were referencing. I just can't remember what it is.

[Josh]

Imagine being cool enough to be in the Marines, but you're not cool enough to go to the DMT club.

[Lil]

Get out of my mouth. Is that it?

[Josh]

Get out of your jar, head.

[Lily]

We're pacifist.

[Josh]

We don't believe in war.

[Lil]

Wait, which side did you fight for?

[Josh]

Wrong time.

[Lil]

Get out.

[Lily]

Dude, you want to hear a fast one about the draft? True story.

[Josh]

Hit me.

[Lily]

Yeah, dude. 1970s, two brothers sign up for a fake. Signed up a fake boy for a free birthday ice cream club, because, you know, get your birthday in and get free ice cream. Years later, in 84, the same fictional name had to be their address, right? You get your coupon, that same fictional name, received a selective service draft registration notice exposing the fact that our government was illegally acquiring mailing lists and data from other businesses. And so they had drafted a ton of people off of stuff like ice cream.

[Andy]

Oh, my goodness.

[Lily]

And so this is what exposed it, and they had to redact a bunch of people. But this is literally being sent to war.

[Andy]

That's crazy.

[Lily]

Off an ice cream club. Imagine. Imagine like you make. You and Taylor making one for Timmy Hooper, whoever's buried in the hill, getting the draft for Timmy Hooper.

[Andy]

Timmy has to go to war.

[Lily]

He's buried in the backyard.

[Andy]

Sorry. He's dead. My dad killed him.

[Lily]

Is that not. That's history photographed. That's the IG account that posted that. Dang.

[Andy]

All right, Power Rangers.

[Josh]

Speaking of history, are we ready to dive into the dark side of Power Rangers?

[Lil]

Oh, gosh. Ada wants to be a Power Ranger.

[Josh]

Ruin your childhood dreams.

[Andy]

Ruin them.

[Josh]

Ruin them. It.

[Andy]

Oh, no.

[Josh]

This is the curse of the Power Rangers. Are you ready for this? All right, so Power Rangers started in 1993, all right. By a guy named Heim Sabin. Heim Sabin. So he was over in Japan and he saw this show where these guys dressed up in really cool costumes were doing crazy martial arts, fighting off these intergalactic evil villains. And he's like, man, I really would love to make this into an American TV show. So what he did, he bought all the footage that Japan's show did and said, what we'll do is we'll create. We'll cut everything, like half of like the stuff that like, is like, you know, people driving on the wrong side of the road.

[Lil]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Any type of Japan architecture or anything like that. That got it down to like 15 minutes. They needed a 30 minute show. And so what they did, they said, okay, so we'll have, we'll keep the fight scenes because they're in costumes. All we need to do is film people outside their costumes. So that's what the big casting call was. Or, you know, we're going to pitch this idea. No one believed in the show whatsoever. Everyone's like, this isn't even to make it another season, so just enjoy it for what it is. So we went out and he casted a bunch of people and they got literally everyone and the pilot episode, right? Pilot episode that you have young teenage, I mean, teenage looking kids who come up for the show that don't know anything and they have them sign a contract. There's no agents back in the day. We're working late at night. So these kids had the choice, do I want to sign this contract or not? They signed the contract, $750 an episode. It was like $400 after taxes per episode. They were getting ripped off. They were filming 10 to 14 hours a day and they were doing their own stunts for the first season.

[Andy]

Wow.

[Josh]

Yeah. So they had to train, go through it and they have. They told a story. When they went out to the desert to go film a shot, one of the people in the. It was like, he was like a Wetsuit and a mask and everything. He was one of the villains. Passes out in heat stroke starts like seizing. And one of the directors says, I will give someone $100 to wear that wetsuit, put that mask on and finish the shoot. The guy's laying there in his underwear, seizing while they try to get an ambulance out there. And they continue to film. So right from the get go, it was not great. The Yellow Power Ranger, Audrey deboe for the first. For the beginning episode, she quits the next day. Right. And they recast her as this lady who. The first crime of Power Rangers, if you don't count the guy seizing. The first true crime of Power Rangers was they made the. The Black Power Ranger. They cast the black guy and the Yellow Power Ranger, they cast as the Asian woman. The first true crime. All right, that was. That was kind of crazy. But the first season, everyone was doing their own first stunts. It was a huge hit. Everyone loved it because the. Not a lot of kids shows were like live action. It was all cartoons.

[Lil]

Yeah.

[Josh]

So this was like the first big live action one that really became a hit. And they got in trouble because it was the most violent kids TV show ever put on tv. Leading to there was a. In Norway, a two boys. This is really sad. Two boys on a playground killed a little girl.

[Andy]

Oh, my gosh.

[Josh]

Doing the moves they had seen on TV on Power Rangers. And so they had to start even getting to the point where they're doing PSAs before Power Rangers, letting them know, like, this is, you know, what's real life and what's not. And so this is like, that was kind of a harsh thing, but yet continued to skyrocket. Season two came around. They became the biggest toy ever sold in the 90s. $1.9 billion in the 90s. Like, bigger than. Bigger than literally anything and bigger than X Men. All this stuff. It was absolutely bonkers. But they still, the cast members in season two still weren't making any more money. They kept it at the exact same thing. They're using their likeness, everything on all these toys.

[Andy]

No more money contract, huh?

[Josh]

The Yellow Ranger, they're in front of all the shareholders and everything. They have a big thing. They go up there, supposed to make a speech, you know, talk about the show, how great it is. She goes off script and she just starts saying, you know, we deserve more money. What are we doing? Loses it completely. Regrets it immediately. They're fired. They're immediately replaced. Except for Pink Power Ranger and one of the other original. But other. Other three or four Completely. Were just kicked out. So this is, this is where the curse starts happening.

[Andy]

Oh, started yet?

[Josh]

No, this is, I mean, it obviously had a real rocky start, but it was obviously super popular too. So it's kind of one of those things. There's a list of things of people who have put on the Power Ranger costume and things have gone horribly, horribly wrong for them recently. In 2020, one of the power Rangers, he was one of the red ones. Austin St. John. He commits a multi million dollar conspiracy fraud in wire fraud. Completely gets busted. Ricardo Medina. This one is absolutely wild. He, he, he was a Red Ranger as well. The Red Ranger costume was doomed from the start.

[Andy]

That was my favorite.

[Josh]

Yeah, he, he left the Power Rangers and started like dog training apparently. Said he was a dog trainer. Got hired by a lady to come take care of the shelter. Wasn't doing his job. She, he was very combative, everything like that. She sent her brother over to go talk with him and take care of the dogs and stuff. He gets out. The Red Ranger guy, Ricardo Medina, kills her brother with a sword. Oh, with a sword.

[Andy]

This is the guy that had back to his roots.

[Josh]

That's what I'm saying. And in the show he did have a sword at one point. And so like this dude was like full on, like in his head, I am a Power Ranger. Jason. Jason David Frank, he was the green Power Ranger. Remember him with the gold like top on?

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

This was the absolute biggest selling Power Ranger ever of all time. Like, he was the biggest toy. And his brother, Eric Frank did five episodes as a Power Ranger as well. After that, there was a lot of jealousy. Things didn't go well. Ended up ending his own life. Super, super, super sad. Then Twee, the original yellow Power Ranger, she's driving around with her friend one day without a seatbelt. Buckle up, kids. Gets in a wreck. Her friend gets ejected 35ft out of the car through the triangle window. In a car push through.

[Lil]

What's a triangle?

[Josh]

Like the little tiny back window that's like behind the other big ones. She gets ejected through that. Paralyzed from the neck down for the rest of her life. Twee, the yellow Power Ranger dies. Unfortunately, the curse continues. The man. I know, it's terrible. The man played. Who played Zordon, like the bad guy? Like, yeah, he died of a heart aneurysm at age 43.

[Lil]

Oh my God.

[Josh]

Out of nowhere. And Jason Frank, the guy that played the green Power Ranger, he left. But you know, because he was just done with it. But then there was a decline in views. So they brought him back and they had a special reunion show which was like, the most popular episode of all time, when they had, like, 20 Red Rangers and stuff like that.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And he became the Black Power Ranger. He was, like, absolutely ginormous. But he kind of got lost. His brother, you know, died. Kill himself. And it was super, super sad. And so he falls into depression. He ends up committing suicide.

[Andy]

Oh, my gosh.

[Josh]

A terrible, terrible thing. But this whole documentary that I watched just breaks this whole down of how, like, it was a huge phenomenon. It was like Beatle mania at this point. Like, people loved the Power Rangers, but behind it, just darkness, darkness, darkness. Dude.

[Andy]

Goodness gracious.

[Josh]

And this happened in 2022 when they're. Because they're still making movies and stuff. Believe it or not.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

But it's just still the power of the. The curse of the Power Rangers. It's a real thing.

[Lil]

Oh, my gosh.

[Andy]

I still love them.

[Josh]

I know. You got to believe in them.

[Lil]

You saved a video the other day of the Pink Power Ranger.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lil]

You have a crush on her.

[Andy]

Yeah. That was like my first crush.

[Josh]

Amy Jo Johnson.

[Lily]

She was just at the Orlando Comic Con.

[Andy]

Go, go, Power Ranger.

[Josh]

How would you feel if we got her as a guest on the pod?

[Lil]

Oh, my gosh. You cannot.

[Andy]

I just be like. You are so funny.

[Lily]

She didn't say anything. What else? Tell me more. Make Lily sit in this chair still.

[Andy]

Gaslight Lily.

[Lil]

Yeah.

[Josh]

It was bullying her. Lily. The whole time. What are we doing?

[Lil]

Oh, my gosh. Are you still here?

[Josh]

What's your name again?

[Andy]

Oh, man.

[Josh]

Say Morphin Time for me one more time, please. It's Morphin Time. More like it's murder time. The curse of the Power Ranger, dude.

[Lil]

Dang. That was a horrible story, Andy.

[Josh]

Hey, it's true story. The best kind of stories, man. Filled with tragedy, Bro.

[Andy]

I got one more thing I want to talk about.

[Lily]

We got time.

[Andy]

All right?

[Lil]

Says who?

[Andy]

There's one more thing. Or should I save it for Patreon?

[Lil]

No, say it.

[Andy]

I can make it quick.

[Lil]

Say it.

[Andy]

All right.

[Josh]

You really shouldn't have brought the Pink Power Ranger.

[Andy]

I listened to this podcast the other day on Conspiracy Theory. Podcast. Great podcast. Listen to. But they talked about this thing called the Twin Experiment. Have you ever heard of this? This hidden twin experiment?

[Josh]

Okay.

[Lil]

Oh, I've heard of this.

[Andy]

It's crazy.

[Lily]

Have you?

[Lil]

Actually, I think so.

[Josh]

She need to hear it a second time.

[Andy]

So, in the 1960s to the 1970s, there's a new York adoption agency called the Louise Wise Services. And what they did is they wanted to run an experiment with these different psychologists, psychiatrists, whatever, where these. In this orphanage, there would be twins, sets of twins, and then one set of triplets. And their intention was to separate the twins and send them to different families and then every year go check in on them to see nature versus nurture. Nature versus nurture.

[Lil]

Yeah.

[Andy]

But what they did, they. So they separated these twins. They didn't tell the parents. They didn't tell them that they had twins or a twin brother, or in this one case, triplets.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

But what they would do is that they would send them to. They would interview these families, get their IQs, what they did for a living, and separate the twins basically off of a rich family versus a poor family, a religious family versus a non religious family.

[Josh]

Man.

[Andy]

And it basically came out because there it was like the. These famous triplets or whatever. It was like this one guy, he went to college and when he got onto campus, they're like, oh my gosh, it's so good to see you. And they're all like, all hugging himself. He's like, what the heck? And this one guy comes up, he's like, do you have a twin brother? And he's like, like, no. He's like, I mean, he's like, were you adopted? He's like, yeah. And he, like went back and he called. He's like, I think this is your twin brother. And so he called and when he answered, sounded just like him. He's like, what the heck?

[Lil]

So weird.

[Andy]

And so there. There's a news story put out about them. Turns out, not just twins, triplets. Oh, all looked identical, all had very similar interests. They ended up opening a restaurant together also. But they're like, wait a second, why were we all separated?

[Lil]

Yeah.

[Josh]

So they.

[Andy]

They went to just like trying to do this investigative journalist, like, bringing in all these people. And it came out that this orphanage was purposely splitting up families.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

For this experiment. And so they're like, okay, well, it's been years now, because that was the 70s when this all came out. A lot of these people have died and they're super old now. All the people that ran it are for sure dead now.

[Lily]

But.

[Andy]

So they're like, can we see the results of this experiment that you had? You cannot. In fact, it is being locked up at the. At. In this. It's sealed at Yale University and will be released in 2065.

[Lil]

I cannot wait for somebody to do an expose on these Ivy League universities and all the crap that they've done. In fact, Everybody should be in jail right now. Splitting up twins.

[Andy]

It's sad.

[Lil]

That is maniacal. That's. That's evil.

[Andy]

It's very sad.

[Lil]

How would these people. How do you sleep at night?

[Andy]

Yeah. It's terrible.

[Josh]

Imagine finding out that you're part of a science experiment and you got picked with the poor home. Like, you got put in a poor home just because they, like, some sick.

[Andy]

See what happened?

[Lily]

Just.

[Josh]

Yeah. Just to see what happened.

[Lil]

Even as a parent, you fall in love with this child that you adopted, and you're like, I could. I could have reared.

[Andy]

That's what all of them say. They said, like, we would have adopted the twins. We would have adopted the triplets. This is terrible. Like, the parents are super.

[Lil]

Oh, I'd be devastated. Yeah.

[Josh]

Yeah. But you seen the documentary about this?

[Andy]

No.

[Josh]

Three identical strangers is the documentary. It's really good. Oh, cool. Yeah.

[Andy]

Out of this podcast, though, they. This is not part of the experiment, but this is just, like, a scenario of nature versus nurture. The wildest thing I've ever heard.

[Lil]

Okay, tell me, is it like, 20, like, total?

[Andy]

The James. The James twins. Okay, so these identical twins were separated at birth in Ohio in 1940. Adopted by two different families. Both families named their baby James.

[Josh]

Wow. Whoa.

[Andy]

Wait. Without knowing the other one existed. So they didn't know that they had a twin brother. And these brothers didn't meet in life until they're 39 years old.

[Lil]

Wow.

[Andy]

That's when they discovered that they're twins. Here's the similarities in their life. Both named James by their families. Both had a childhood dog named Toy.

[Lil]

No way.

[Andy]

Both worked in law enforcement. Both had a hobby in woodworking.

[Lil]

Oh, my gosh.

[Andy]

Both suffered from tension headaches.

[Lil]

Oh, my gosh.

[Andy]

Both smoked the same brand of cigarettes. Wow.

[Josh]

Wait.

[Andy]

Both married a woman named Linda.

[Lil]

Shut up right now.

[Andy]

Wait. Both of them divorced Linda.

[Lil]

Okay.

[Andy]

Both of them remarried a woman named Betty.

[Josh]

Shut up right now.

[Lil]

That is so weird.

[Andy]

100% real. This is not fake. And then both their. Both of them name their sons James Allen and James Allen with two Ls.

[Josh]

What are we doing? That's crazy.

[Lil]

That is so bizarre.

[Josh]

That's crazy.

[Andy]

Yep.

[Josh]

How does it work?

[Lily]

I don't know. There's something to it, though.

[Lil]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Like, my mom was adopted, and she discovered through, like, one of the ancestry type things. She discovered. Discovered a biological brother and then, like, his daughters. Like, one of them is, like, a competition shooter. And I was like, oh, that's weird. Like, she's, like, posting videos, like, shooting guns. Like, I'm obsessed with bows. And then there's a Hawaiian side of the family, Filipino side, where, like, we don't have, like, contact with them, but, like, you know, social media exists now. And I, like, pulled up, and the dude is literally a pastor surfing photographer. Like, he works in media and, like, surf. And I'm like, dude, this is like a freaking simulation. The fact that, like, no contact with these people yet our families are all like.

[Andy]

It's weird.

[Lily]

Person.

[Andy]

Identical twins freak me out.

[Josh]

It's very, very strange because they come

[Andy]

from the same egg, right? Is that the thing?

[Lily]

There's two different ways?

[Josh]

Yeah, it gets split, like, and they don't know how it happens either. Like, they don't know how identical. Like. Like, what causes it. Because it could be the egg and then it literally just, like, splits.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Or it can be two separately.

[Josh]

Yeah. They enter at the same time, and then that's how, you know, like, ones

[Andy]

like, this is my ignorance. And there's probably identical twins watching this. But it's like, are they the same person?

[Josh]

The DNA is the same.

[Andy]

I know, but, like, even it could

[Lily]

be, like, I guess if you don't believe in a soul, what would you argue?

[Andy]

Yeah, what would you argue?

[Lily]

Differentiate.

[Andy]

Maybe they're a Horcrux. The soul been split.

[Josh]

Maybe they're half.

[Andy]

I don't.

[Lil]

I don't believe that Mrs. Kaiser has twins. I don't know if they're identical or fraternal.

[Josh]

They have to vote together, though, because it doesn't count.

[Lil]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Like, they only count as half a vote.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

What does it mean that I absorbed my twin in the womb. Apparently, for a moment, I had a murderer.

[Josh]

But it also reminds me, like, we've talked about it before, but Bruce and Michael Buffer. Yeah, the announcers, remember that. That didn't know they had a brother until they got older. And they both ended up becoming the best at what they do. Announcing in combat sports and having catchphrases.

[Andy]

And it's like, that's super weird.

[Josh]

Until they didn't realize until, like, 30 or 40. Like, that's crazy.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lil]

Even just nuts. Even just siblings are so special. Not even just twins. I think about how Ada and Jane can't sleep unless they're sleeping together.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

It's very sweet.

[Lil]

It's cute.

[Andy]

It is cute. It's very cute.

[Josh]

Andrew and his brother still sleep together sometimes.

[Andy]

Speaking of sleeping together now back it

[Josh]

up, back it up.

[Andy]

Speaking of identical twins, we don't know what. What is what.

[Josh]

There we go.

[Andy]

We got an episode right after this. We do patreon.com/ninjas are butterflies or YouTube membership. Also do a half episode on there. But yeah, we're going to be talking about some crazy stuff. I'm going to be talking about that thing I think with the president, what he's doing.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Also got something with Palantir, very creepy thing that they just released.

[Josh]

Absolutely.

[Andy]

Very creepy.

[Josh]

Yes. All you gotta do is download the Patreon app. Today we have some free behind the scenes footage that's never been seen before that's on Patreon right now. And you can. It's a. When we visited the. The Jewish Boys concert. The Miami Jewish Boys.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And choir. And then we also have some stuff behind Jake Hutchinson and also when we were on John Mulaney's show, a lot of stuff is coming out. So hop on patreon.com today.

[Lily]

I just had a kid.

[Josh]

You just had a kid. So comment that comment that everyone needs to comment below the answer to the lily's questions, please. Every comment helps the pod so much.

[Andy]

I forgot to mention we are choosing 1 comment per video and sending you guys some merch. But you gotta comment, you gotta like, you gotta share, you gotta subscribe. Do all that stuff, please.

[Josh]

People are getting merchandise from just commenting and they love it.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

So do it today, baby.

[Andy]

All right, guys, we love you.

[Josh]

We love you.

[Andy]

We'll see you on Patreon. Bye bye dolphins.

[Lily]

What you're about to see.

[Josh]

Wow.

[Lil]

May disturb you if any of you

[Lily]

know what these multi decade UAP

[Andy]

bottle

[Lil]

nose fish pigs was.

[Josh]

A massive police response on the dark complaint.

[Lily]

Dolphin silent.

[Josh]

I'm talking to you. Why did you lie inside? I cry. I cry.