193 - Forest Shapeshifter, Missing Experts, & History's Deadliest Woman

Summary

Ninjas Are Butterflies: Episode 193 Summary

Episode Title: Forest Shapeshifter, Missing Experts, & History's Deadliest Woman
Release Date: May 8, 2026
Hosts: Josh Hooper, Andy DeNoon, Lily, Andrew
Theme: Outrageous comedy and wild storytelling centered on conspiracies, cryptids, mysterious events, and history’s most fascinating figures—with plenty of off-the-wall banter and running jokes.

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Main Theme & Purpose

This episode delivers a raucous blend of internet oddities, global conspiracies, unsettling cryptid folklore, and little-known historical powerhouse figures—with the Ninjas Are Butterflies crew bouncing between laugh-out-loud riffing and genuine curiosity about the world’s weirdest happenings. The discussion covers:

• The mysterious disappearance of scientists worldwide (including the latest on Chinese researchers),
• A chilling Russian cryptid (the Leshy),
• The captivating history of female pirate Ching Shih,
• Current events such as the White House Correspondents’ Dinner incident,
• And loads of conspiracy-flavored commentary and jokes.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Scientists Are Going Missing—Now in China

• The hosts continue to track the recent, puzzling trend of scientists vanishing under mysterious circumstances (US, now China).
• "Not only are US scientists going missing, but now Chinese scientists are going missing. Is it aliens? Is it AI? Is it your mother?" (Josh & Lily, 00:58)
• Chinese scientist disappearances are especially notable, given state secrecy; many were connected to AI, drone, nuclear, and space programs.
• "Nine to ten Chinese scientists have gone missing or have died. Very weird ways. ... All connected to AI programs, drone programs, nuclear programs, and classified space programs." (Josh, 65:17)
• Speculation ranges from Cold War subterfuge to extraterrestrial intervention—parallels are drawn to the sci-fi novel "The Three-Body Problem."
  • Notably, the author of "The Three-Body Problem," Cixin Liu, is highly connected in Chinese science and government, adding an extra layer of intrigue.
• Discussion on possible explanations includes:
  • Government black ops or intelligence race (China vs the US, especially around Taiwan).
  • Media control in China: “China, communist state, very tight lipped on media. ... We're China. We're fine. We're perfect." (Josh, 65:08)
  • “It really seems like something ultra sinister, big picture, end of the world kind of stuff is happening." (Josh, 74:04)
  • "Could it be like a Cold War kind of thing too, though? Like, could China be taking out our scientists and we’re taking out theirs?" (Josh, 71:52)

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2. Conspiracy Corner: White House Correspondents’ Dinner Incident

• The crew reviews the recent security scare at the White House Correspondents’ Dinner.
  • A teacher/former NASA JPL employee, Cole Allen, was apprehended while armed at the event.
  • Oddities in the investigation: strange online connections, like a cryptic X/Twitter post from a fellow NASA alum, and potential evidence of censorship or online scrubbing.
• Questions over suspiciously poor security camera footage and slow security response abound.
  • "In a building where the President and some of the most powerful people in our nation are in one building, how do we have 720 pixel security footage?" (Lily, 38:50)
• The gang chats about how easily conspiracy theories take root when official explanations seem lacking, and muses about the "scripted" nature of recent events.
• Rumors about AI-generated shirt emblems and social media ties are debunked live.

Memorable Moment:

• The topographical map Twitter banner allegedly concealing an image of Trump (33:53–34:11).
  • "After people reverse it, turns out to be… Trump holding up... Okay." (Josh)

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3. Book & Pop Culture Chatter

• Andrew highly recommends "I Who Have Never Known Men," a feminist dystopian novel with Holocaust parallels.
  • "Literally a five star read. So good." (Andrew, 06:15)
• The gang riffs on conspiracy tropes, including the infamous story of newspapers "predicting" historic events, like the wrong election winner or the second plane hitting on 9/11. "There’s an iconic image of [Truman] at his acceptance speech, holding up the paper… of his opponent winning." (Lily, 08:41)
• Hilarious discussion around Disney's allegedly repurposed Hillary Clinton animatronic for Trump at the Magic Kingdom (09:07).

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4. Cryptid Feature: The Leshy – Forest Shapeshifter (Russian Folklore)

• Lily tells a chilling tale of the Leshy, a Russian woodland shapeshifter.
  • It's said to lure travelers with familiar voices, mimic loved ones, and lead victims hopelessly off-path, often to their doom.
  • "If you saw a friend and they had their shoes on the wrong feet—red flag. Run right now." (Andrew & Lily, 80:21)
• The Leshy has deep roots in Slavic and Christian folklore (a "wood demon" descended from fallen angels).
• Connections are made to global stories of shapeshifters, including American and Middle Eastern cryptids.
• Protection tips: make the sign of the cross, carry bread and salt, don't whistle in the woods.
• "It’s very, very scary. But it was passed down. And the word Leshy in Russian means wood demon, which is terrifying." (Lily, 82:15)
• Personal encounters and scary movie recommendations ("The Ritual") ramp up the spookiness.

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5. History’s Most Successful Pirate: Ching Shih

• Josh shares the story of Ching Shih, the legendary Chinese pirate queen.
  • Once a concubine, she became the head of the 80,000-strong Red Flag Fleet—dwarfing Blackbeard's legend.
  • "At her peak, she had 1800 ships in her command with over 80,000 pirates working for her. ... In comparison, Blackbeard had four ships and 300 people." (Josh, 99:00)
  • She forced the Chinese government to effectively buy her retirement, keeping her fortune and winning amnesty.
  • Ran a tight, brutal ship—rules for discipline and severe consequences for pirates who broke her code.
• The crew marvels at her underrepresentation in popular culture: "How have we never heard of her before? That’s a hero, dude." (Lily, 102:24)
• Spawns ideas for a pirate-focused series.
• Notable quote: "She just retired. But she’s infamous for her pirate rules. ... If you disobeyed orders, you’re beheaded." (Josh, 101:12)

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6. Bonus Laughs & Memorable Moments

• The crew cracks up over bathroom, grease, and septic tank anecdotes, with plenty of self-deprecating humor:
  • "I think Josh counts as three people." (Andrew, 03:45)
• Lily delivers back-to-back wild stories:
  • "Story of the Leshy… [and] a father and son who get ensnared by a forest spirit." (75:02–88:02)
• Pop culture riffs: comparing Josh to the dad from Pawn Stars (10:00), live musical improv about clones taking over their lives (13:03).
• Touching on wild betting/gambling/insider trading stories—like a US special forces member profiting from a bet on the apprehension of Nicolas Maduro (41:11).
  • "Turns out it was one of the military dudes … he profited $400,000." (Josh, 42:44)
• Heated debate: bed full of breadcrumbs vs. shoes full of jelly (50:27).
• Tangent on the world’s worst household plumbing habits.

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Notable Quotes & Moments with Timestamps

• On the missing scientists:
  • Josh: "It really seems like something ultra sinister, big picture, end of the world kind of stuff is happening." (74:04)
  • Andy: "There’s a second wave of watchers traveling via asteroid..." (67:27)
• On the Leshy cryptid:
  • Lily: "Don’t whistle in the woods." (81:47)
  • Andrew: "If you saw a friend and they had their shoes on the wrong feet—red flag. Run away." (80:21)
• On Ching Shih:
  • Lily: "That’s a hero, dude." (102:24)
  • Josh: "She would just control that territory... she would go against the British naval, the Chinese navy ... at her peak, she had 1800 ships. ... Blackbeard had four." (98:59–99:12)
• Musical Moment:
  • Lily/Josh: Spontaneous “My Clone Has Ruined My Life” song (13:16–14:36)
• Cultural Satire:
  • Andy: "In a building where the President... is under one roof. How do we have 720 pixel security footage?" (38:50)
  • Lily: "We have AI video now. We have all this stuff. It’s like, get better footage. What are you talking about?" (39:31)
• Pirate Rules/Women in History:
  • Josh: "She just retired. But she’s infamous for her pirate rules… If you disobeyed orders, you’re beheaded." (101:12)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [00:58] — Introduction to missing scientists, Leshy, and the pirate story
• [06:15] — Book recommendation: "I Who Have Never Known Men"
• [09:07] — Disney animatronic conspiracy chat
• [13:16–14:36] — Improvised song: "My Clone Has Ruined My Life"
• [26:00] — White House Correspondents’ Dinner incident breakdown
• [38:50] — Discussion on poor security footage
• [50:27] — Would-you-rather: breadcrumbs in bed vs. shoes filled with jelly
• [65:14] — Deep dive: Chinese scientists missing, Three-Body Problem parallels
• [75:02–88:02] — Leshy Russian cryptid stories
• [98:06–104:13] — History’s deadliest pirate, Ching Shih
• [104:44+] — Wrap-up, Patreon/merch shout-out, closing community banter

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Tone & Style

• The show keeps a rollicking, irreverent, and slightly conspiratorial tone, frequently breaking into song or sidebar rants.
• Jokes, pop culture references, fake arguments, and storytelling are interwoven with the actual content—creating a uniquely comedic yet oddly informative vibe.
• The team is not afraid to embrace the absurd, challenge official narratives, and invite both awe and skepticism.

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For Further Listening

• Check Patreon or YouTube Members for exclusive bonus content: extra stories, including a chimpanzee attack/success tale and new research into Russian propaganda.
• Watch for a future episode featuring their interview with Bart Sibrel (moon landing debunker).

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Final Thoughts

This episode showcases Ninjas Are Butterflies at their chaotic comic best—mixing real-world mysteries, folklore chills, and a dash of untold history for a madcap, engaging ride. Whether you're here for the science conspiracies, the cryptid creep-outs, or wild tales of the sea, this episode is a winning sampler of the group's signature style.

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Transcript

[Andrew]

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[Josh]

to Ninjas and Butterflies, y'.

[Lily]

All.

[Josh]

Not only are us scientists going missing, but now Chinese scientists are going missing. Is it aliens? Is it AI?

[Lily]

Is it your mother?

[Josh]

We'll tell you.

[Lily]

And I'm telling you two terrifying stories about a Russian cryptid. You're going to want to stay tuned because it's the only way you're going to be able to protect yourself from it.

[Andy]

And you already know we're going to talk about the White House Correspondent's Dinner. There's some weird stuff going on, but even crazier than that is this story from the 1800s of this pirate who took over the entire Eastern Sea. And it was a woman.

[Lily]

It.

[Andrew]

And unless you're. I got M in my mouth. And unless you're an ancient forest demon, this podcast is brought to you and powered by Sunday. Cool. So watch this or listen.

[Andy]

Yeah, Very good.

[Josh]

Very good.

[Lily]

Let it go.

[Andy]

That's good.

[Lily]

Unleash the Leshy.

[Josh]

Unleash the.

[Lily]

Panda.

[Andrew]

What happens is. Hold on.

[Josh]

I get friends in Atlanta.

[Andrew]

Oh, it's an acronym, like a medical acronym, panda. Referring to, like, something that happens in your childhood where, like, if you see a kid that's, like, happy one day, and then all of a sudden they're, like, depressed and anxious and, like, all this kooky stuff.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

It's directly correlated with repeated strep infections. So they treat this strap.

[Josh]

Oh, I did see that.

[Andrew]

Yeah. But it goes to your. The strap continues to live in your brain and affects your mental health.

[Lily]

That's terrible.

[Andrew]

And it goes undiagnosed in, like, so for so many.

[Lily]

How do you get checked for that?

[Andrew]

You would have to get. You would have to just, like, talk to your pediatrician and, like, they probably have, like, some Kind of whatever. But they are also now linking this. I saw this last night. They're linking it to gut health. So gut. So you get a bunch of strep infections or, like, tonsillitis or something. Yeah, gut.

[Lily]

Gut.

[Andrew]

IBS in adulthood.

[Josh]

Microbiome.

[Lily]

Josh Hooper. Exofacto.

[Andrew]

And he got tonsillitis a ton.

[Lily]

Ooh, right there.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Andy]

Is that what it looks like? Yeah.

[Lily]

Yeah, you did, buddy.

[Andrew]

He's a poopy boy.

[Andy]

Yeah, man.

[Josh]

I just out here pooping.

[Lily]

Out here pooping, dude.

[Andy]

It's pooping me crazy.

[Josh]

Crazy out here.

[Andrew]

Okay. They were. We were talking about our septic tank on that phone call to see if they had the capacity for our family to add the powder. Bathroom on. And Rob was like, you could have a hundred toilets. It depends on who's pooping in those toilets.

[Lily]

It all depends on the pooper.

[Andrew]

He said your septic has a capacity for 10 people to live in your home. I think Josh counts as three people.

[Lily]

Oh, at least. Yeah. Hey, hey, Hooper.

[Josh]

Be pooping easy.

[Andy]

It's pretty loose, though.

[Andrew]

It is loose. It'll break down easily.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Dude, I see videos of people, like, they're like. They have, like, leftover chili on the stove, and they don't want to keep it in leftovers, and they'll just dump it in their toilet and flush.

[Andy]

City. City Plumbing versus.

[Lily]

That's crazy.

[Josh]

Have you seen people that are, like. To be real. I don't even know what to do this oil anymore. So this is, like, dumping it in their yard.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Some people are dumping hot oil down their sink. Like, it's like. It's never affected my sink.

[Andrew]

Yeah, I do.

[Lily]

Not yet.

[Josh]

Do you actually?

[Lily]

Yeah, hot oil.

[Andrew]

I don't really cook with a lot of oil. I don't ever, like, fry anything. But when I do like bacon, sometimes I'll just wash the pan.

[Josh]

I don't do that anymore.

[Andrew]

Do we have problems? Have we ever had problems?

[Andy]

You're gonna septic, haven't you?

[Andrew]

Yeah, but it was, like, from the

[Lily]

80s because, you know, when that stuff gets, like, cold, it just, like, becomes, like, solid.

[Andy]

It turns into butter, basically.

[Andrew]

And it's only ever been occupied by, like, one person at a time. It's never had a.

[Lily]

Well, you're gonna put an end to that.

[Josh]

No more dumping grease down the sink.

[Lily]

What you do, take a thing of aluminum foil, push it down into the drain, pour all the grease in there and just let it sit. And then it just cools down. Cools down. And then you just ball it up, throw in the trash.

[Andrew]

That's a really good idea.

[Josh]

That's actually genius.

[Lily]

I just thought of it.

[Andrew]

Hey, did you guys.

[Josh]

I usually pour it in my shoes.

[Lily]

Yeah, it helps. Moisturizer.

[Josh]

Yeah, it helps my feet slip in easier.

[Lily]

Yeah. In the morning, 100% get up and go.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

You guys, I read a book. I just finished a book. It's actually required reading for you this summer.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Andrew]

One of the original dystopian novels.

[Lily]

Ooh.

[Andrew]

It's like 100 years old.

[Lily]

Nice. What's it called?

[Andrew]

I who have Never Known Men. It is a feminist novel.

[Lily]

No way.

[Andrew]

She was.

[Lily]

Guess we can't judge a book by its cover.

[Andrew]

She was a Holocaust victim. She ran away during the Holocaust. So it's also a lot about the Holocaust.

[Andy]

Well, that's not real.

[Andrew]

Indirectly enough. No, for real. It was so good, you guys. It was so suspenseful and, like, spooky.

[Josh]

You finished it?

[Andrew]

Yeah, I finished it.

[Lily]

Oh, wow.

[Andrew]

Five star. Literally a five star read. So good.

[Lily]

I, who know, knew no men.

[Andrew]

I, who have never known.

[Josh]

I know.

[Lily]

I know not new men.

[Josh]

I do not know men.

[Andrew]

She puts grease on her feet. That's why I was thinking about that.

[Lily]

Grease on her feet.

[Josh]

Grease on her feet.

[Lily]

Grease on her feet. Grease on her feet, making me crazy. Grease on my feet, making me crazy.

[Andrew]

Did you guys hear about how Prince Andrew is going to get in a car accident?

[Josh]

You're ruining our everything.

[Andrew]

You said come in hot.

[Josh]

Yeah, I guess so. Were you able to confirm it?

[Andrew]

No, I. If you Google it, you can't find anything about it.

[Josh]

Yeah, I couldn't either.

[Lily]

That means you can't confirm it. That means it's incorrect.

[Josh]

Allegedly.

[Andrew]

Well, here's the problem, though. Why would they. Like, they would delete that immediately.

[Lily]

I don't know what you're talking about.

[Andrew]

You can't find it?

[Josh]

Allegedly. This past week they released an article. Or the BBC. Was it the BBC or the British Times?

[Andrew]

Whatever.

[Josh]

They released an article. Headliner, Prince Andrew gets in fatal car crash.

[Lily]

Oh, my gosh.

[Andrew]

Next Thursday.

[Andy]

Next.

[Josh]

And it was dated for next Thursday.

[Lily]

Oh, no. What does that mean? That's crazy. Prince Andrew was like, oh, news to me.

[Josh]

Oh, wait, what is today?

[Lily]

Perhaps I should skip the drive on Thursday.

[Josh]

When I try to confirm it, they're like, no, the people are mixing up stories because, like this one woman in the list that was going after Santa's list, Andrew, Prince Andrew, she was in a car accident.

[Lily]

Got it. Got it.

[Josh]

Which she's. Now she's gone.

[Andrew]

Why would they make that up?

[Josh]

Well, why do they? Why would they make what up?

[Andrew]

Why would that guy that posted about it make that up?

[Josh]

I don't know.

[Lily]

We're talking about it, aren't we? We're talking about it.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

I mean, it worked. But if that's true, we could start a room right now if we wanted.

[Andrew]

You know, I think we've done that a couple times.

[Andy]

I'm pretty sure we should look back

[Josh]

at every time that's happened though, because, you know, that's happened before. Something that was released and it's like,

[Andy]

oh, we'll take that on.

[Josh]

Take that out.

[Lily]

No, we talked about that.

[Andrew]

It was a 911 thing.

[Lily]

They wasn't the. Yeah, it was a 9 11. That was like a newspaper printed, like in Havana or something like that.

[Josh]

Something like that.

[Lily]

Yeah, there was a newspaper article printed. Yeah.

[Josh]

Weird.

[Lily]

Very, very strange.

[Andrew]

I think it was like, also somebody was reporting the news in like another country and they were like, a second plane has hit the tower before it ever hit or something like that.

[Lily]

I can't remember the details. Harry Truman, when he was elected president, they announced the wrong president in all the newspapers and stuff like that. And so there's an iconic image of him at his acceptance speech, holding up the paper.

[Josh]

No way.

[Lily]

His opponent winning. He's just smiling ear to ear.

[Andrew]

Yeah. So have we ever talked about how Trump's wax figure at Magic Kingdom looks a lot like Hillary Clinton?

[Lily]

No, I haven't seen it, actually.

[Andy]

Conspiracy.

[Josh]

Yeah. The theory is that they made the, the. The robot because they knew.

[Lily]

Thought that she was gonna win for sure.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Turned it into a try, trying to get on it. And that's so funny.

[Josh]

That's very funny.

[Lily]

That's what they did for the wax museum for me with the rock.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Lily]

They had my body and everything ready and they're just like, ah, he's not there yet. Let's just throw the Rock's face on his body.

[Andy]

Dude. Speaking of completely screwing up the format and just rocking with new stuff, have you guys seen the comments where Josh is being compared to someone else?

[Lily]

I did see this.

[Andy]

Have you seen it? So it's mean.

[Lily]

Who do you think it. Oh, do you think it is?

[Andy]

Who do you think it is? Go ahead.

[Josh]

Multiple people are saying this.

[Andy]

Everyone's saying quite a few.

[Josh]

Don't say everyone.

[Andy]

People said shaved bald. You looks like somebody.

[Josh]

Oh, the dad from Pawn Stars.

[Andy]

Yeah. So they're saying this photo.

[Andrew]

I think he's handsome.

[Andy]

Looks like.

[Lily]

I think he's handsome too.

[Andy]

Hold up.

[Andrew]

I think he's so handsome. Shape cleaner.

[Andy]

No, Looks like this Dude. So I was like, what would happen if I. Because I. I wanted to have your back. So I wanted to take this photo and then take your hair and beard and have chatgpt combine them.

[Lily]

That's just a picture of Josh, though. That looks like me and you mixed.

[Andrew]

Yeah, it does.

[Lily]

Now you're really handsome.

[Josh]

What do you say?

[Lily]

I'm attracted to you.

[Andy]

They did. Because it combined with you.

[Josh]

That doesn't look like. That doesn't look like my eyes.

[Andrew]

No, no, it's not your eyes.

[Josh]

I'm highly insulted. Everyone that said that.

[Lily]

Everyone unsubscribe right now.

[Josh]

Highly insulted.

[Andy]

We read the comments.

[Josh]

Comments.

[Lily]

Speaking of comments, talk about the worst ones.

[Andrew]

And the pun guy is listening to this right now, and he's like, why?

[Lily]

Everyone leave a comment right now. Tell everyone how beautiful Josh is. Comment that below and you get a chance to win free merch. Every week we're giving away free merch to one of our commenters on YouTube.

[Josh]

Please like it like the video. Subscribe, share it, do whatever you can, because it really helps us out.

[Andy]

10 off at the pawn shop.

[Andrew]

The best, most descriptive compliment to Josh.

[Josh]

I don't want to. I don't want.

[Lily]

Very descriptive. Be as detailed as you possibly can.

[Josh]

I actually really don't want a minimum of 50 characters.

[Andrew]

Ooh.

[Lily]

Yep, yep. We'll delete it if it's under 50 characters, actually. So.

[Andrew]

That was a funny joke, by the way, Andrew. I heard it about the Pawn star discount.

[Andy]

Oh, 10% off pond store.

[Andrew]

I said Pawn Star. What's that?

[Josh]

That is.

[Andy]

That's the name of the show.

[Lily]

Relax.

[Andy]

Take a breath.

[Lily]

Take a breath. What did I say? You said it correct.

[Andrew]

We.

[Lily]

We. We.

[Andy]

No French in here.

[Josh]

We don't like the French.

[Lily]

It's still one of my favorite songs of all time. I think we really.

[Josh]

I blame it on the France.

[Lily]

That one was good.

[Andrew]

Andrew messed with my light and it's way better. I would like for them to be warm, though. You guys can change the light bulb maybe.

[Lily]

What would you say if we. We told you nothing changed about the life

[Andrew]

he changed it.

[Josh]

If you actually told me, I would probably freak out.

[Andrew]

I'm like, wait, my eyes are like.

[Andy]

I did not.

[Andrew]

No, you didn't. Really.

[Andy]

I did.

[Lily]

Yeah, he did.

[Josh]

We dimmed it.

[Andrew]

Damn it.

[Josh]

Dimmed it. He tipped it. Was that from.

[Lily]

He tipped it. I don't know. You always quote these things. How do I never get them?

[Josh]

The Knight's Tale.

[Lily]

Oh, yeah. I haven't seen that in years.

[Josh]

Such a good movie.

[Lily]

It's pretty epic.

[Andy]

Rip

[Lily]

Man, I miss Heath. We should do a song for Heath right now.

[Josh]

All right.

[Lily]

Okay.

[Josh]

Sitting here in my backyard Thinking life's getting really hard Then I knew just what to do if there's one, there

[Lily]

can be, too so I decided to clone myself did some tests and they split my cells now he's doing all my chores Scrubbing on my floors For a while it was grand all according to my plan Then it turned to tragedy. My life left me for a clone Now I'm sitting here all alone My dog loves him even more it makes my heart so sore My boss gave him a promotion Then handed me a dem they say he's really great he can't even figure skate My clone has ruined my life. My clone has ruined my life. Wow.

[Andy]

I'm giving it.

[Josh]

I'll give it a 80%.

[Lily]

Give us a Grammy. Give us a Grammy.

[Josh]

I'll give that an 80%.

[Andrew]

I thought that was hilarious. That's a funny concept.

[Josh]

My clone has ruined my life Funny idea, everybody. That is funny idea.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

That is fun.

[Lily]

He's a political idealist, not a murderer.

[Andrew]

What's that from?

[Lily]

Star Wars Stars. Whoa. That's my favorite thing. He's a political idealist, not a murderer.

[Andrew]

Do it. Do it.

[Josh]

Man.

[Lily]

Man, oh, man. Feels good to be back, huh? It's on Monday. Feeling alive, feeling good, feeling flowing. Really? Yes. Not too bad. Not too bad.

[Josh]

Yes. Mondays are my favorite day.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Unfortunately, this is not going to be my favorite thing. Everyone's favorite. Lily's favorite thing to do is what we're about to do now. And I know this question might seem like a trick, but I assure you it's not. It might seem like there needs to be more context, but I assure you that there is no context added. We tried to be added.

[Lily]

We tried. We try to add more context, and there's literally no way.

[Josh]

There's no way to do it. So it's just plain and simple. But it's. It's critical that you get this right, Lil. Almost Ada. I'll almost call you Ada all the time. This isn't gonna be sweet, though. I hope it is.

[Andrew]

Don't set me up for failure.

[Josh]

I'm trying. I'm. Dude, I would never want to do that. Truthfully. Look at me. Okay? I would never want to set you up for failure.

[Lily]

Look at him.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Andrew]

Really look a lot.

[Josh]

I care about you, and I don't want you to fail at this. Okay? You got this?

[Andrew]

All right?

[Josh]

I believe in you. Okay. Today's question sent in my viewer, should they Go ahead. Or start from the top.

[Lily]

Here we go. 3, 2, 1.

[Josh]

Today's question, sent in by viewer. Should they just go through with it?

[Lily]

Oh,

[Andrew]

no.

[Lily]

Well, Ada, what are we doing? Gosh, don't get upset at her. She doesn't know what she's doing.

[Josh]

No, they shouldn't go through with it.

[Andy]

Should. Should I edit this out? Do you want to start?

[Josh]

I don't, probably. Honestly, because this is.

[Andrew]

Did I answer wrong?

[Lily]

This is gonna hurt the alcohol, I think.

[Andrew]

You know, Golly, I'm sorry. I didn't.

[Josh]

I wish I could forgive you, but this is unforgivable. Should they go through with it?

[Lily]

No.

[Josh]

No, they shouldn't go through with it.

[Lily]

That's what she says. No, thank you.

[Josh]

All these scientists that are going missing. Going through with it is protecting all the other scientists in this world. I mean, getting rid of them.

[Lily]

Wait, no. People putting a stop. People putting a stop.

[Josh]

You're gonna end that up. Hey, I.

[Andrew]

The winner.

[Josh]

No, no.

[Andrew]

I won today.

[Andy]

Golly.

[Josh]

I'm just so upset, I can't think straight. Andy, help me.

[Andy]

This is not a joke. He got it backwards.

[Josh]

Not a joke. It's a mental disease.

[Andrew]

It's not a joke.

[Josh]

I'm not.

[Andrew]

I'm laughing at you.

[Lily]

The agencies are doing the best to stop what's happening. Should they go through with it?

[Josh]

No.

[Lily]

Or should we just let these people go missing? Should we just let all the scientists on this planet just go missing or end up murdered?

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

No, I didn't mean that.

[Josh]

Well, apparently, that's what she said, and

[Lily]

you're laughing maniacally because of it.

[Josh]

Yeah, it's. It's actually sick. It's sick.

[Andrew]

I thought I had bamboozled you.

[Josh]

No, I. Dude, I wish you could have bamboozled me, but I'm not even trying to bamboozle you, okay? I care for you, all right? I don't want to see you hurt. I want to see you answer these right. Okay, I hate doing this part, all right? But I hate also that you want all these scientists died.

[Lily]

It's okay.

[Josh]

I don't see how this is funny. You're freaking me out, all right?

[Andy]

Why are you laughing?

[Josh]

Why is she laughing?

[Andrew]

When you open your eyes wide like that, he looks like you're dead.

[Andy]

I'm not opening my eyes wide.

[Josh]

And don't call me.

[Andy]

Don't say I look like my dad, okay?

[Andrew]

Your dad's a lovely person.

[Josh]

I know. I guess you guys hear it here first. Lily wants all the scientists tonight. Don't know why she's laughing about it. It's a scary time, honestly. Holy cow.

[Andrew]

If you're a scientist.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Welcome to the show.

[Lily]

Is that a threat?

[Josh]

Did I say ninja?

[Andrew]

I meant butterfly.

[Josh]

The butterfly is no doubt one of

[Lily]

God's most beautiful creatures.

[Andy]

Has to empty your mind.

[Lily]

You. Oh. Learn martial arts attack. No, was that sounded like a threat. Especially if you're a scientist.

[Andrew]

Don't look at me like that ever. Joshua.

[Lily]

Dude, do the. Do the. The one.

[Josh]

I used to do this thing to my sister where I just, like, make this eye do this, and it would freak her out. She's like, don't do that, please.

[Lily]

Do what?

[Josh]

Do what? I'm fine.

[Lily]

You ever get a little burnt toast?

[Andy]

I can do it too, but it gets stuck sometimes.

[Josh]

Oh, my gosh.

[Andrew]

There was a night when Cassie and I were roommates and you came over and you.

[Josh]

Cassie.

[Andrew]

Yeah. You spoke to us like you were a little Japanese girl. I swear. I swear. It was for two hours. We just sat and listened to you stood.

[Josh]

When was because Keegan put on an old vinyl record of the old Godzilla movie. And I was just going off for like two hours.

[Lily]

We got to hear it.

[Andrew]

We were literally.

[Lily]

We got to hear it.

[Josh]

I mean, I got. It has to be like, Godzilla's playing. But I mean, I was just like, Godzilla, but for two hours. Yeah.

[Lily]

That's so funny. And it was at that moment you knew you fell in love.

[Andrew]

Oh, yeah.

[Andy]

Thought I had a gong on the sound pad.

[Josh]

Sometimes I just get stuck in a loop and I can't break out of it.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And there's one time we were at my buddy's house. Josh France, surf pro, Lake County. Go even. Five stars.

[Andrew]

Wrong. Josh. Josh.

[Josh]

I mean, Josh Brennan. Also Josh Francis, my buddy. But he does roofing. It doesn't matter.

[Lily]

Leave it. Five star.

[Andy]

Also five stars.

[Andrew]

And they're all friends.

[Josh]

We're all. Yeah, we're all friends. But I was in their living room and we're all about to go out and they were, like, playing, like, EMD or. What is it? What's a edm? Edmund and I just got there and was.

[Lily]

Everyone's in a trance.

[Josh]

Shush, crying. What is it, edm?

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And I went up there and was pretending to be a DJ for a good 30 to 45 minutes. And all were like, yeah, he's really like, like.

[Andy]

But it was flawless. My question, how do you.

[Andrew]

Have you done this before?

[Josh]

Seriously? They're like, this is amazing. And they didn't talk for 45 minutes. They just watched me do this.

[Andy]

But how do you know it's an admiration. Like, genuinely. How do you know it's an admiration? Because I feel like that's the line you tell a kid who's just, no, I'm a ninja.

[Josh]

No, because they were like, this is amazing.

[Andrew]

I have to tell you. It was amazing. It's like he had written the songs or something because he knew all those beats, and he was like.

[Lily]

I mean, no, that's called flow state, dude. You entered flow state.

[Andrew]

But this is also the guy that has debilitating anxiety standing up in front of 20 people pretending to be a DJ and no one asked him to. He did.

[Lily]

That's what we should have done for Florida tour. That's like, just go be a dj, man.

[Andy]

I think I just cracked it, dude. You quit being Carl. You gave up the character. Now you're just you now you can't hide.

[Josh]

I don't like me.

[Lily]

Yeah, you got to create other.

[Andy]

Who's your new character? Who do you want to be? Maybe Asian this time.

[Lily]

Maybe just play.

[Andy]

I'll allow it. I'll allow it.

[Lily]

Just play a confident. Your character is Josh, but it's just a confident Josh, but you have to tell yourself, I'm playing this character.

[Josh]

Maybe I can be Joshua. Yeah, that's my alternate.

[Lily]

It just changes. Is everything.

[Andrew]

Oh, my gosh. Speaking of Asians.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

There's big news in the Hooper household.

[Lily]

You guys are having an Asian baby. Hey, everyone. Oh. Oh.

[Andy]

Oh.

[Lily]

Jiho in the building. Oh, Jiho. What are you reaching for? Oh, you guys remember this guy?

[Josh]

There he is, our Jiho.

[Andrew]

Oh.

[Josh]

It's been over 10 years.

[Lily]

A decade.

[Josh]

And he made an Instagram. I was able to talk to him. It was the best thing ever.

[Lily]

Yes. So remind everyone where they know Jiho from. Jiho is the family that you guys stayed with. He lived with you here for a little while.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Buddy. Austin Warren. He rescued me in South Korea.

[Lily]

Yep.

[Josh]

From when I was. I won't don't. I was used to.

[Andy]

You're making it sound worse.

[Andrew]

Yeah. You were. Yeah.

[Josh]

I was forced to be a teacher, and I did not want to be a teacher.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Bait and switch.

[Josh]

Jiho came and saved me.

[Lily]

Yes.

[Josh]

I love Jiho. So everyone should comment. I. I really want to get Jiho to America to be on the podcast.

[Lily]

He'd be incredible. Even though he said you said he hasn't spoke English, he told me he

[Josh]

hasn't spoken English in 10 years.

[Andy]

I will give up.

[Josh]

Last time I talked to him, I

[Andy]

will give up this seat. I will move to the next seat

[Andrew]

and let the better Asians You're a primary Asian.

[Josh]

Yeah. You're like our.

[Andy]

But he's full. You're like, our Asian. But he's full. I did have a weird moment where you pulled out that photo. And I have had that haircut at one point in my life. It's just like, what if you pulled out that photo, held it up, and it, like, looked exactly like me? It was just like, oh, my God, he replaced his friend.

[Lily]

This whole time has been an experiment. Like, Andrew's like, I'm Jiho. No, no, no. It can't be. It can't be.

[Josh]

No, that would be amazing.

[Lily]

I'm on.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

But he didn't know I had a podcast and stuff.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And so he looked. He's like, uber. You're famous now.

[Lily]

No, that's awesome.

[Andy]

But, yeah, Korea trip would be a sick blog.

[Lily]

Yeah. If he doesn't come to us, we got to go to him.

[Josh]

Oh, yeah.

[Andrew]

Oh, I would so do it.

[Lily]

That'd be amazing.

[Josh]

Speaking of coming and going.

[Lily]

Yes. Yes.

[Josh]

White House Correspondent Dinner.

[Lily]

What happened? What happened?

[Josh]

Weird times, scary times.

[Lily]

Scary times.

[Josh]

I think we all know. Bang, bang, bang, bang, shoot, shoot, bang, bang. Okay, so those who don't know. Which if you don't know, this is crazy, because this is coming out in a week. This just happened. A man who's a teacher.

[Lily]

Yes.

[Josh]

But also had a different profession, which I'll talk about here in a minute.

[Lily]

Oh, I didn't know this.

[Josh]

He stayed in the hotel that the

[Lily]

White Horse correspondence dinner was at.

[Josh]

The White Horse one. Yeah, White Horse.

[Lily]

The White Horse correspondence dinner, which. There were no horses. I showed up and I was like, there's nothing. No horses here. There's no equestrian activity at all.

[Josh]

But he sent a. What's it? A note to his family.

[Lily]

Manifesto.

[Josh]

Manifesto. Right before he did it, his brother called the police, but he apparently rushed past security. Handgun, shotgun, and a bunch of knives.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Oh, my gosh.

[Andy]

All of which pretty terrible about reaching any distance beyond 30 yards.

[Josh]

Yeah. But he was apprehended pretty quickly.

[Lily]

He was booking it, though. Yeah.

[Josh]

He was so fast.

[Andrew]

I didn't see any clips, but all

[Josh]

the security, they shot, like, nine times. Missed them.

[Lily]

Yeah. Stormtrooper activity.

[Andy]

Guys gotta get some better. You know, the crazier thing, though, is he ran past. So which way are you shooting?

[Josh]

Yeah, I know they're shooting.

[Lily]

Towards the end, it seemed pretty crazy. Like, it's like to not just go after him on foot, like, and just start chasing after him and. Yeah. And instead of just planning, and then I'm like, It seemed weird.

[Andrew]

I think they were probably scared.

[Andy]

I. I'm a terrible shot, but I had a pig run by me and dropped it, and I have no. I mean, I'm better with a bow. I really am not good with guns, but I dropped a pig rushing by me.

[Lily]

But they're.

[Andy]

How on earth is the Secret Service? Multiple people and multiple shots. Not dropping him.

[Andrew]

Yeah, I think they were scared. I would not want to run out

[Lily]

of guy, but as those guys are secret agents, you should. You're trained not to be scared. I know you're trained not to be.

[Andy]

You talk.

[Josh]

They said, as an Asian.

[Lily]

Why is it Asian? You shouldn't be scared either. Watch this. See? Nothing.

[Andrew]

I don't know a lot. Did he. Is the. Is the teacher apprehended or.

[Josh]

He's apprehended. Yes.

[Andrew]

Well, I mean, I feel terrible about what he did.

[Josh]

It gets weird, but it gets. Yeah, it gets strange, but there was a lot of people online that were just, like. They planned for this to happen. They knew it was gonna happen. I'm just like, I don't know.

[Andrew]

I don't think so.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

I mean, I don't know.

[Andrew]

Hear it from us.

[Josh]

Yeah. But I was thinking that. And then I'm just like, well, here's

[Andy]

some really weird connections.

[Josh]

So just then, my. My conspiracy mind.

[Lily]

Just question everything.

[Josh]

Question everything. A couple things. Reaction time was very strange with, like, getting Trump off the stage. They rushed J.D. vance off. Like, boom, out. Trump took a minute to get off the stage. Also, the people in the crowd. I don't know if you saw clips of people in the crowd. There were some really funny moments.

[Lily]

Yeah, there's one. Potatoes, man.

[Josh]

Yeah. And then there's one dude that kept on going to all the tables and drinking their drinks.

[Lily]

Oh, my gosh.

[Josh]

And then grabbed, like, a bottle of champagne, and she's, like, pouring it in his glass. They were like, what are you doing?

[Andrew]

He probably has dementia.

[Josh]

Why would you. I think you was just like.

[Lily]

Or if you think you're gonna die

[Andrew]

drinking other people's drinks.

[Josh]

He's probably just having a good time.

[Lily]

I mean, because a lot of people

[Andy]

thought it was pretty weird, babe.

[Lily]

People thought it was kind of a threat instead of a gun. So, like.

[Andrew]

So he's like, I better get. I mean, toasty.

[Lily]

You know, on the Titanic, those guys that weren't. They were just, like, accepting their faith. They're like, Baker did. Yeah. Like, just, let. Let me. Let me get warm.

[Andy]

Well, here. Here's the truth. The incident is fast, but, you know, you're Going to be stuck there for, I mean, a millennia while they investigate. You're not getting let go. So he's like, I'm about to be in this place for, like, a day. Yeah.

[Josh]

It wasn't like. When they're like. It was like, clearly they apprehended the guy, and the guy's just going around to the table.

[Andy]

It's just like, whoa.

[Andrew]

Was he, like. Was he, like, a politician or was he.

[Josh]

I don't know.

[Lily]

They have politicians there, news media, people. A lot of. It's like, news media, like, organizations and stuff.

[Andrew]

Oh, my word.

[Lily]

But yeah, there was people taking selfies, like, with the bottles and stuff. Like, they were taking the bot as they were leaving and things.

[Josh]

Hilarious interview with Dana White. He's like, people are freaking out. They're telling me to get down. He's like, I'm not getting down. He's.

[Andy]

He's like, this is awesome.

[Josh]

This is crazy.

[Lily]

That's good promotion for the UFC event.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Everybody was super. Analyzing Cash Patel's reaction. They're like, he knew. He knew.

[Josh]

He just.

[Andy]

He just looks tweaked the whole time.

[Andrew]

Yeah, he was just like this. I think he just lives in a constant state of fight or flight.

[Lily]

And you think as the FBI director, you wouldn't be just. Just cower down, Just. No, like, get up and do something. Yeah.

[Andy]

Like, show authority, even if you have no skill. Make it look like you're handling business.

[Andrew]

Well, I guess maybe flip a table. Here's my devil's advocate. Maybe he was so at peace because he trusts his team. Maybe because his team is that good. He's like, I'm not even worried about it. My team is excellent.

[Lily]

Tell his face that.

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah, True. Or he was probably like, this is it. This is where they're going to get me.

[Lily]

I knew it was coming.

[Andrew]

I knew it was the coming as soon as I lied to Rogan about the list.

[Josh]

Yeah, but so a lot of people. The Internet is awesome. Sometimes with, like, people that just do research, like, how that. How do you find this? This is nuts.

[Andrew]

Amazing.

[Josh]

They discovered that the man's name is Cole Allen that was released. His name is Cole Allen. And all they were talking about is that he's a teacher. This past month, he, like, won teacher of the Month.

[Andrew]

This month.

[Josh]

He won teacher a couple months ago or something like that. He won Teacher of the Month, like, he's a teacher from California.

[Andrew]

Oh, my word.

[Josh]

But if you go on his LinkedIn, which I did, just to make sure this is correct, he worked at a facility Known as NASA in the Jet Propulsion Laboratory.

[Lily]

Shut the.

[Andrew]

You're lying.

[Josh]

Dead serious. No, in 2014. 2014, Cole Allen worked at NASA in the Jet Propulsion Laboratory.

[Lily]

What are the odds of that?

[Josh]

This gets weirder. I don't know how people found this, but there is a X account, a Twitter account.

[Andy]

I'm so glad you're getting into this.

[Josh]

And it's a profile. Henry Martinez.

[Lily]

Okay.

[Josh]

He created a post. One post. One single post.

[Lily]

When Was this?

[Josh]

In 2023. The post just says Cole Allen. That's his only post that he's ever posted on X. Henry Martinez also worked at NASA in the Jet propulsion laboratory at NASA in 2014.

[Lily]

Same time.

[Josh]

Same time. Wrote a paper. You're able to go back and look.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And so people are just like, well, what is this about? What's the. Who's this? Henry Martinez?

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Not sure, but just weird stuff. There's this thing in his. Let me pull it up. Actually, that's a wacky coincidence.

[Andy]

Yeah, I was trying to find it. I had it saved, too. I wonder if it got pulled.

[Andrew]

Maybe he tweeted. Well, I guess it was nine years later. He tweeted?

[Andy]

Yeah, in the single name. Like, what on earth.

[Andrew]

Maybe he was. Maybe he's bad with technology. He was trying to look up his old buddy from NASA.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

So in Henry Martinez's X account. Wait, did they pull it?

[Lily]

Oh, they had to have.

[Josh]

Henry.

[Andy]

I saw it, too. It existed and then accounts talking about it, which is probably why this episode's gonna. In that here it is.

[Lily]

And that crazy that they always pull, like, Facebook, Instagram. Like, anybody who's involved in a shooting like this, like.

[Josh]

Like. Let me take a screenshot.

[Lily]

Always, like, landed free.

[Andy]

And the censored.

[Josh]

His profile. Golly. Come on. His profile or the banner?

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Above his profile picture is this picture

[Lily]

right there, which is just a bunch of colors.

[Josh]

A bunch of weird colors and stuff, right?

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

But apparently it's this. People have, like, done some sort of reverse analysis on it, and it's this program. Do you know what the program is called that they did?

[Andy]

I haven't seen this.

[Josh]

No. Oh, you have it. It's this thing to where if you

[Lily]

reverse, like, negative image, it's like.

[Josh]

It's topographical. So it's like, basically makes a colored topographical map of an image.

[Lily]

Got it, got it, got it.

[Josh]

If you reverse. Turns out to be.

[Lily]

Nuh.

[Andy]

That can't be real, dude, that's.

[Josh]

There's no way it's Trump. After he.

[Lily]

Whoa, whoa. Lights flickered. Easy one.

[Andy]

And this is why we put all our cameras on a battery charge backup.

[Josh]

Trump holding up Okay.

[Andrew]

I saw it very clearly for a minute and then I think my eyes

[Lily]

have to focus on video. It's an optical illusion. You have to believe it's there.

[Josh]

Lil, turn it.

[Andrew]

It this degree.

[Andy]

It's one of those squint. You'll see it jump scares.

[Andrew]

Oh, my gosh.

[Lily]

Did you make that? Yeah. That was low effort too. That was just like laxadas.

[Andy]

I think we're running this camera just for that shot every week. 100 gigs of data.

[Andrew]

Wow. That is. Are you sure?

[Josh]

No, I'm not sure, but that's what people are alleging. Alleging. Yeah. There's a. What's happening happening.

[Lily]

Sorry, my computer was on. Oh, there's some distractions up in here. Yeah, the lights flickering, the dinging.

[Andrew]

Are you freaking.

[Lily]

They're trying to get us to stop talking about it.

[Andrew]

I'm freaking out a little bit.

[Lily]

Am I freaking out right now?

[Andrew]

I took another anti anxiety, but then I've had a lot of caffeine and I'm wondering if my heart is giving up. It keeps happening to me where I'm like, am I forgetting how to breathe?

[Lily]

You have manual breathe?

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Lily]

In, out.

[Josh]

But yeah, I just. I like went and confirmed it. And there is a paper that Henry Martinez was the author of. It's testing Orion's fairing separation system. So he worked in the jet propulsion.

[Lily]

That is nuts.

[Josh]

And that's the only tweet. And it was from 2023.

[Lily]

And that's confirmed. Like the Twitter account and everything.

[Josh]

Oh, yeah.

[Lily]

Wow.

[Andrew]

Very strange.

[Lily]

How does that happen?

[Andy]

Are you going to get into the T shirt emblem? Are you gonna try. That's not.

[Josh]

That's not true.

[Andy]

I didn't look it up. Okay.

[Josh]

Yeah, it's not true.

[Lily]

Okay.

[Josh]

People put an AI image of.

[Andy]

Is that what it is?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Okay, I got.

[Josh]

He was wearing. He was wearing a shirt with an emblem on it of a allied nation, which. Which the soldiers wear.

[Lily]

Oh, yeah.

[Andy]

But that's. That's good to let our audience know because that's going everywhere. So, like, that one got.

[Josh]

No one got nixed.

[Andy]

What didn't get nixed? Did you see what. How Trump. His plans for the. The ballroom got squashed a few weeks ago.

[Josh]

No, I didn't.

[Andy]

So this is. This is the alleged reason that this happened. If this is all stage, he was told by a judge in early April that national security is not a blank check and you cannot use that to do whatever you want with the ballroom. And so literally he Threw a ball again.

[Josh]

That is the first time he's ever been at a White House correspondence dinner. Dinner.

[Andy]

Did he.

[Lily]

Yeah, he's always skipped it, which is really weird.

[Andy]

He doesn't seem disturbed at all when it happened. Finish your magic trick. That was the worst trump I've ever. That was pretty good. But yeah, the guy, the magician dude, he's like talking to me. He's completely. Whatever.

[Josh]

He's.

[Lily]

Oh, it was the mentalist.

[Andy]

But yeah, just for. For fact checking sake. It was Judge Richard Leon. He literally. That's the quote. National security is not a blank check. To proceed with otherwise unlawful activity.

[Andrew]

I thought the ballroom is privately funded.

[Andy]

There's. Now that. Now that it's a known, you know, underground bunker of sorts. Now I don't really. People need to be talking about what is actual, like military use and versus what is privately funded stuff because it's. There's all kinds of lines being crossed. It's come to life.

[Andrew]

Oh, it's like a huge conflict of interest because you were alleging at the time, you were like, this is probably going to be a secure or a surveillance data center. And Google invested, Apple invested, all these guys were investing in this ballroom. And that's a. I mean, like, it's obvious. It's so on the nose.

[Andy]

Yeah. Well, now he's made it a national security issue after he was told it's not really a national security issue. You can't do whatever you want with the ballroom.

[Andrew]

I see what signs you're drawing.

[Lily]

But he said at the press conference afterwards, he's like, it is why we need a new ballroom.

[Andy]

Yeah, No, I know. He, like immediately went there after being told no.

[Andrew]

Yeah, that's so funny.

[Josh]

Yeah, it just. And so that's. That would be like. I don't know, man. It's like everything is. It feels like everything is scripted at this point. But like, this Cole Allen guy, I mean, this seemed like an MK Ultra kind of.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

But this is happening. This seems to be happening more and more where people are just like. And they try to. They do some completely irrational.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Something out of their thoughts just to cause a scene.

[Lily]

Yeah. I wonder where this family. Has this family been interviewed or anything?

[Josh]

I believe the brother has.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

The brother that called the police.

[Lily]

It'd be interesting to look into that. But also how in a building where the President and some of the most powerful people in our nation are in one building, all under one roof. How do we have 720 pixel security footage? Yeah, I was just watching a documentary of this crime that happened Overseas in an island. And no joke because of the cctv. See the security footage all across the town. It was like 4K. Gas stations, supermarkets, all this stuff. Because of their surveillance footage, they solved the crime.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

And it's like.

[Josh]

I mean our ring. Our ring. Cameras.

[Lily]

Yes.

[Josh]

Yeah. Or 4K.

[Lily]

That's why I can't trust it. Because we do have AI video now. We have all this stuff. It's like get better footage. What are you talking about? Like, this is crazy. We could have.

[Josh]

Yeah. Black and white footage. And it was so grainy.

[Lily]

So grainy.

[Josh]

Camera angle that they showed.

[Lily]

Yeah. Great. Come on.

[Andy]

And your security team isn't wearing body cam.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

If he and Elon Musk were still besties, this would never have happened. Maybe they would have had the highest technology cameras in the world.

[Josh]

It's just weird. Everything's weird.

[Lily]

Yeah, but it's our weird man.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Are weird.

[Josh]

It is fun, but it's weird.

[Lily]

Great content.

[Andy]

Speaking of cameras and tech, I made a play I'm seeing. See if it plays out. I put money on GoPro on the stock market.

[Josh]

Oh. Because their camera coming out.

[Andy]

Well, the stock tanked. It's like nothing right now. But I'm like, I'm thinking with the rise of drones and all this stuff, a company that has a history and small camera might be able to sell. Make a fast dollar.

[Lily]

We shall sell off.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Everybody go buy a GoPro. And I'm going to sell once you do.

[Lily]

I don't know if you're allowed to say that. I think financially you're. I think legally you're not allowed to like tell people what to do. Oh, yeah, you can.

[Josh]

You always say this.

[Andy]

I meant I'm. No.

[Josh]

Not giving financial advice.

[Andy]

Go buy a GoPro.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Not the stock.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

The cameras. Because they're dope.

[Andrew]

If he owned GoPro, then maybe he would say that he couldn't say it.

[Lily]

There is some type of law that I. That you can't give, like financial advice.

[Andy]

Can I just say I'm impressed that you know that.

[Lily]

That I'm in stocks. Dude, he is.

[Josh]

He does a lot of day trading.

[Lily]

I do.

[Josh]

Speaking of insider trading, here's a story about insider trading.

[Lily]

Okay.

[Josh]

Remember when the Maduro raid happened and someone placed a $33,000 bet that Maduro would be apprehended by the U.S. before. What was it? January 31, 2026?

[Lily]

Yes.

[Andrew]

And when did he get apprehended?

[Josh]

Huh? When did he get apprehended before that? Because that even hasn't happened yet. Someone placed a bet. $33,000 bet. The only person to do it, a $33,000 bet that Maduro would be apprehended by the United States of America before January 31, 2026. So anytime before that. Okay, he would have won.

[Andrew]

I didn't know that if it happened before then or not.

[Josh]

It did.

[Andrew]

I knew it happened. I didn't know what month because.

[Josh]

Wait, when did it happen?

[Lily]

It was in January. It was early January.

[Josh]

Okay. So. Yeah. And he won $400,000 from that bet. Turns out it was one of the military dudes.

[Andrew]

You stinker.

[Josh]

But one of the dudes on the raid.

[Lily]

Are you joking? No, I didn't know it was that. I saw there's somebody.

[Josh]

So. Department of justice has arrested a US army special force soldier that participated in the operation to abduct then President of Venezuela, Nicolas Maduro. He allegedly placed a $33,000 in bets on a prediction market relating to Maduro being removed from the office by January 31, 2026. And on the. On an invasion of Venezuela, he profited $400,000.

[Andrew]

That's hilarious.

[Lily]

And that's illegal.

[Josh]

I. Yeah. Because it's. You know what's going to happen.

[Andrew]

Well, it's also freaking dumb.

[Lily]

That's betting on your own team. All.

[Andy]

All my friends in the military are like. So that all the politicians can make money off us, but we can't let one dude make a check off of betting on himself and America.

[Andrew]

I understand that argument, but it's also like, if anybody had done a little bit of research in it, they would have seen it's a national security threat.

[Andy]

That.

[Lily]

That angle I do get is like, you literally. That's like. Yeah, you're. It's like national security.

[Josh]

Yeah. You're like, yeah. Releasing like a classified.

[Andy]

Yeah, dude, you know what? That's a perfect way to get out of going on assignment. Like right now, things are hitting up in Iran. If I were in the military, I didn't want to go. I'd be putting all kinds of bets in there that like something was going to happen in Iran. When they say, hey, you got orders. Be like, oh, this is bad. I've got like 20 grand riding on this happening. Like, I can't go.

[Lily]

I bet five grand I poop my pants as soon as I touch the ground out there.

[Josh]

Yes. So, yeah, that's crazy that he got caught. Of course he was going to get caught. There's no way that was going to happen.

[Lily]

Yeah, I mean, that. What a specific thing to bet on.

[Andrew]

What. And how's he betting like DraftKings or something.

[Josh]

It was like Poly.

[Lily]

Poly Market.

[Josh]

Poly Market?

[Andrew]

What's that?

[Josh]

It's just a betting site that people just. They literally bet anything. Anything. Dude, gambling is such a massive.

[Lily]

Oh, it's going to be a huge problem. Huge problem.

[Josh]

I did watch this very fascinating video. I. Oh, I need to find who it is because you guys should watch it too. He's basically comparing like Mr. Beast videos to like stuff that Mr. Rogers warned about.

[Lily]

Okay.

[Josh]

And there's like the ex employee of Mr. Beast basically saying that he is teaching little children to be addicted to gambling.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Like by his. Yeah, you can win this, you can win that. And like he's literally the word that I use. He's like, he's harvesting their attention. And that's what Mr. Beast is all about, just grabbing attention and retention.

[Lily]

Yeah, but that's the currency in our climate.

[Andrew]

It is.

[Josh]

And that's what Mr.

[Andy]

Beast says.

[Josh]

And he's just like, he is literally harvesting retention.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

You could say the same thing about Chuck E. Cheese.

[Josh]

Sure.

[Lily]

I just took Zola to the arcade yesterday on a little date and I could see the addiction in her with those claw machines. She's like, I gotta give it one more try and wipe it again and then just go for it.

[Andrew]

And you're like, zola, what about the skeeball?

[Andy]

Skeeball, dude, Shout out. My brother played poker with his 7 year old daughter and took 50 bucks from her and was like, you put it on the game? Yeah, tough. He let her live in that reality for a week before he gave her back the money. But he's like, you want to play poker? She's like, I'm never playing poker again.

[Lily]

Smart.

[Josh]

I think our podcast is going to turn into where we just talk about scientists going missing every week.

[Lily]

Ninjas are scientists.

[Andy]

When you said you had stuff, I was like, like this thumbnail and title is going to be really similar.

[Josh]

We're like, what's the. Which episode did they talk about? The scientists going missing.

[Andy]

All of them. All of them.

[Lily]

150 through 200.

[Josh]

But I got an update on the scientists going missing.

[Lily]

Come on, baby.

[Josh]

And I'll tell you right after.

[Lily]

Don't go anywhere.

[Andrew]

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[Lily]

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[Andy]

of his new Honey, Chili Crisp and

[Lily]

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[Josh]

that's right.

[Andy]

No notes, just absolute silence.

[Lily]

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[Josh]

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[Lily]

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[Josh]

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[Lily]

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[Andrew]

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[Lily]

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[Andrew]

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[Josh]

I just got up there and I

[Lily]

was just like oh my God, thank you, thank you.

[Josh]

And then I heard someone, anyone, please help.

[Lily]

He's like Superman being able to carry me off the mountain.

[Andrew]

The award winning Tell Me what happened podcast from OnStar is back. New Emergencies, New Heroes.

[Josh]

Find out what happens in season six

[Andrew]

of Tell Me what Happened. Out now.

[Andy]

Hey guys, my name is o' Shea and I work with the Ninjas or

[Lily]

Butterflies crew here at Sunday Cool.

[Andy]

Now if you don't mind, I would like you to imagine Imagine something with me.

[Lily]

Imagine you're in a meadow.

[Andy]

It's almost sunset. The sky is full of the most beautiful colors you've ever seen. You hear what sounds like the whispers of love in the air. Love. You look around, and surrounding you are thousands of people. All these people are hugging each other, laughing, smiling, living life in its purest form. You see dudes giving high fives, children playing tug of war, families treasuring one another. Now open your eyes. I want to ask you a question.

[Lily]

What were they wearing? You're right.

[Andy]

They were wearing shirts. And guess who made those shirts? We did here at Sunday Cool. So if you want to be happy and want the war to end, order custom shirts through Sunday cool, sundaycool.com let's go ahead and end this war together.

[Josh]

Speaking of big girl sleep, you know, it's questions.

[Andrew]

Hold on, everybody.

[Lily]

You need to be ready.

[Andrew]

I. We sat down and it was like,

[Lily]

go, go, go, go.

[Andy]

I appreciate that.

[Lily]

Coming hot.

[Andrew]

Would you rather sleep in a bed riddled with bedcrum. Oh, breadcrumbs. Or wear shoes filled with jelly?

[Andy]

Oh, bab.

[Lily]

How do you describe how much is riddled?

[Andrew]

You feel them? It's riddled. It feels like a dirty bed.

[Lily]

Is there any one?

[Josh]

I literally can't do either of those.

[Andy]

I know the bed doesn't bother me.

[Josh]

Dude, if there's a speck of sand in the bed, I can't go to sleep.

[Andrew]

Freaks out.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

I used to get back from doing beach service, like, with sand still on. Tired, I just get in bed.

[Andrew]

I did that too, in college. I am.

[Lily]

Breadcrumbs is better than sand, though.

[Andrew]

Josh had horse hoof feet recently, and I put little lotion socks on him. Like the ones you get at Target. They have lotion inside of them. And he was like, I can't do this. And I'm like, be a big boy.

[Lily]

You got a big boy.

[Andy]

I have so many questions.

[Josh]

Horseshoe feet, you know, like, your callus builds up so much on your heels that it starts, like, cracking.

[Lily]

No, you gotta go get a pedicure, bro.

[Josh]

She did.

[Andrew]

I didn't. I spent about 20 minutes each foot with a pumice stone.

[Lily]

Get some parmesan cheese.

[Josh]

Oh, yeah. About a mound.

[Andy]

New question.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Andy]

How much?

[Josh]

How much came off to eat Parmesan? What? Sprinkle it on a salad.

[Andrew]

Oh, my gosh. Yuck. Here's my second question.

[Lily]

Would you rather.

[Andrew]

Okay, so what's the answer?

[Lily]

Breadcrumbs.

[Josh]

Yeah, probably breadcrumbs, because I'd be a

[Lily]

nice little snack in the night, too.

[Andrew]

I would say breadcrumbs because I sleep with a sweater and with pants on. I sleep with all the clothes on, and so I won't even feel it. And I kind of sleep with that anyway. Because a girl sneaks their snacks into my bed. So that's my answer.

[Lily]

Yeah. For me.

[Andrew]

Breadcrumb.

[Andy]

Yeah. I just got a mouthful of schedules over here.

[Andrew]

I have another question. If you were trapped in a cage for the rest of your life, this question is inspired by.

[Lily]

It's called marriage.

[Andrew]

Watch it.

[Lily]

Just kidding there.

[Josh]

We're at this antique shop where I got our little sailor.

[Andrew]

Yeah. Guys. Shout out. Mercantile in. Where were they? Sanford. Where was that?

[Josh]

Winter Park.

[Andrew]

The mercantile. What a treasure trove.

[Josh]

But they had an antique ball and chain. And I said, ada Jane, I got one of these when I married your mom.

[Andy]

She's like, stop it.

[Andrew]

Stop. You're trapped in a cage for the rest of your life. Would you want the bars to be horizontal or vertical? Vertical.

[Josh]

Vertical.

[Lily]

Vertical.

[Josh]

How does it feel?

[Lily]

Horizontal would be better, Right? Because they're usually vertical.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Lily]

I feel like you could do a lot. A lot of stretching and, like, even working out with horizontal bars. Yeah.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Lily]

You can, like, throw it up.

[Andrew]

Climb.

[Lily]

Yeah, Climb up.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Lily]

Climb up, like, seven feet.

[Josh]

Make your own little jungle gym.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Lily]

I would make it my effort to do, like, the flag. Yeah, yeah. Calisthenics kind of stuff.

[Andrew]

I can already do that, though.

[Lily]

Prove it.

[Josh]

It's actually insane.

[Lily]

Not this. You could do that, probably. You can't do that.

[Josh]

Fully extended.

[Lily]

We're gonna.

[Andy]

We.

[Lily]

There's a stop sign outside. We're gonna go see. We're gonna go video, and it's gonna be for Patreon. We're doing it right after this. That's what's happening.

[Josh]

She cannot. She has the weakest hands on Earth.

[Lily]

We're trying.

[Josh]

Oh, my God.

[Lily]

That would be the most amazing thing if you're just like, yeah, I could do it. And you just instantly just like. Well, I guess supposed to be hard or something or. Gosh.

[Andy]

All right, Andrew, Andy, airdrop on.

[Josh]

Wait, no, not the song.

[Andy]

No, no, wait. No, wait.

[Andrew]

No, wait.

[Josh]

Andrew's got a real.

[Andy]

And it's too.

[Lily]

Too late. He's gonna show us right now. Right now.

[Josh]

Right now, Right now.

[Andy]

You guys getting it?

[Andrew]

No.

[Andy]

It says waiting on you.

[Andrew]

Wait on me for what?

[Josh]

Airdrop a.

[Andrew]

I don't. You guys know I don't know how to do airdrop.

[Lily]

Yeah, just send a chat.

[Andrew]

Where does it go?

[Andy]

I tried to text it and it failed.

[Andrew]

If I. If I get an airdrop, where does it go. I got it.

[Josh]

Wait, there's two.

[Lily]

Oh, I didn't get anything.

[Josh]

I haven't.

[Andy]

You haven't shown up yet.

[Lily]

I'm up. I'm on everyone.

[Andy]

Same.

[Josh]

You need audio.

[Andy]

You might have to just turn it to Andy.

[Andrew]

I got it.

[Andy]

Let's do this in order here. So yes to audio, but we're gonna start out the. The Wolf Man. What are you. Are you clicking stuff?

[Andrew]

Oh, I don't know how to use airdrop, so I was going around a little bit. You. So now this is in my camera. Roll, you menace.

[Josh]

Yep.

[Andy]

All right, so we're gonna start out with that wolf thing. This is Little Red Riding Hood in Germany from 1962. This is the scariest. This is. This is terrifying.

[Josh]

Just wolf.

[Andy]

Yep. Here we go. 3, 2, 1.

[Andrew]

I already clicked it a while ago. She doing drugs.

[Andy]

This is like a different level of horror. Just wait.

[Lily]

Goodness gracious.

[Josh]

Is that not the scariest thing you've ever seen? This should be a movie night.

[Andrew]

No, thank you.

[Josh]

That is actually terrifying.

[Lily]

Okay, is that an actual movie or is that AI? It looked AI. Like an AI trailer.

[Andy]

1962.

[Lily]

Really?

[Andy]

Yeah. You guys. You guys pick. You want to. You want to hit this one? This is my acupuncture stuff for you. Yeah.

[Lily]

Come on.

[Andy]

Three. Never going one.

[Lily]

Anyway. Most of the pressures from his.

[Andy]

Wait for it.

[Andrew]

It.

[Andy]

Wait for it. Wait for it.

[Lily]

Oh, my gosh.

[Josh]

I didn't unplug it because mother. Oh, my gosh.

[Andy]

Apparently that was in there.

[Lily]

Gracious.

[Josh]

I think that that's like foot surgery, right?

[Andrew]

What's happening?

[Josh]

I don't know, but I know what that feels like.

[Andy]

Did I tell you guys a story of getting the needle, putting my foot. I can't remember this.

[Andrew]

What happened to you?

[Andy]

I was surfing. It was really cold, and I couldn't feel my feet. And I was like, come. I was like, okay. I can't feel my hands in the water. I can't feel my feet. I just. Surf's good, but I need to call it a day. It was like 30 something degrees with wind chill. So I'm leaving, walking down the boardwalk. And as I'm, like, walking down the boardwalk, I'm almost to my car, almost to the parking lot, and my foot starts feeling warm. And I'm like, what on earth? I was like, I don't think I peed myself. I was like, that's what it felt like. And I looked down, and there's a blot of red on the boardwalk. And I turn around, and literally for, like, 100ft there's just step, step, step. I turn my foot over, and apparently, like, I literally traced my blood spots back. But a. You know, like when weather warps the boards. It pushed a nail like this, and I caught it between my big toe and my middle toe, and it ripped two inches down my foot. And so I go to the hospital. I'm like, I need this cleaned in stitches, right? And I'm thinking, this is already bad enough. And they're like, yeah, we'll numb you before you do it. Okay. Oh, okay. Sick. So I got my foot, and I'm thinking, you're gonna hit me with some numbing going up the thing. No, they take my foot and go and point it forward and take the needle at the beginning of the cut and push it halfway down my foot and hit the syringe as they pull it out.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

And I was like, I think I would have rather just gotten an infection because,

[Josh]

like, stitches would have felt better than that.

[Andy]

That numbing shot.

[Lily]

Holy moly.

[Josh]

Skin hurts.

[Lily]

Yeah. I felt like I was gonna throw up for a second.

[Andy]

Oh, my gosh. That was pretty bad.

[Lily]

That's awful, mama.

[Andrew]

And I didn't say that you stepped on an arrow and needle or something. I have a fear that we're gonna do that to be twin day, dude,

[Josh]

you gotta watch out for those, like, gas station bathrooms. I've been seeing more and more videos of people that are cleaning their needles in the giant toilet paper roll.

[Lily]

What? You got to bring your own, like, they stick the needle in the actual roll, like, the side of it, and they just. So they squeeze it, and it's easy

[Andy]

to clean the needle.

[Lily]

Yeah. So you got to bring. Dude wipes, bro, that.

[Andrew]

What are you talking about, humanity? Where is your humanity?

[Josh]

Or are we heroin addicts?

[Lily]

Oh, yeah, that.

[Andrew]

Oh, my gosh. You know, we have to bring. Dude wife. So bring her own roll of toilet paper to clean your heroin needle in. Think ahead.

[Josh]

Well, now they're saying. Now they're saying this toilet paper is causing all kinds of cancer.

[Andy]

What?

[Andrew]

Yeah, it's true. I mean, like, bleaches and stuff like that.

[Josh]

All the bleach and chemicals that are in toilet paper.

[Andrew]

I know. I actually have been meaning to bring that up to you because I want to start buying, like, hemp toilet paper that's, like, not bleached. But you're so particular about the ply and the feel and all those things.

[Josh]

Give us the bidet.

[Lily]

But you don't have to use that

[Josh]

much old paper in the morning, bro. I can't do the bidet in the morning.

[Lily]

Get over it.

[Andrew]

Good for you. I do. The bidet wakes you up. Don't even. Don't go slow. Just hit that thing with it.

[Lily]

It's a cold plunge for your butt.

[Andy]

That's actually a marketing. That could work.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Cold punch a butt.

[Andy]

Did you see the DMT trip I sent? The final thing. The most detailed view of a human cell ever captured.

[Andrew]

That's very, very cool.

[Andy]

Look at the. Look at the. These ones didn't come through. So. Do you see that?

[Josh]

It's crazy. It looks like I Spy book.

[Lily]

Oh, yeah.

[Josh]

Like I spy the nucleus.

[Andrew]

Where's the mitochondria?

[Andy]

That's so true.

[Lily]

That's awesome.

[Andy]

Look at that.

[Andrew]

Wow.

[Lily]

So cool. That was all made by mistake, dude.

[Josh]

I know.

[Lily]

So stinking cool.

[Josh]

Just growing out a bunch of slime.

[Lily]

Yeah, man. Yeah, slime that. Learn how to walk, bro.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Kidding me, bro. That's incredible, bro.

[Josh]

Fish is like, man, I wish I could walk.

[Lily]

I'm tired of this water, man.

[Josh]

I wish I could have a conscience.

[Lily]

I want a conscience. I don't even know what that is.

[Andrew]

I think they say that we were in the water, aquatic, and then we got out, walked around, and then went back in for a couple millions of years.

[Lily]

Yeah, it wasn't all cracked up to be.

[Andrew]

Yeah, yeah, they do say that. It was like a back and forth.

[Josh]

Yeah. They are wrong. Hey, they're wrong. Also not a theory where they're always talking about, like, did you know that 13 million years ago it rained on Earth for 2 million years straight? And the people are like, how do you know?

[Andrew]

You don't know that.

[Josh]

You don't know that.

[Lily]

But then there's other people. Like, okay, yeah, yeah, I can see that.

[Josh]

Two million years of just raining.

[Andrew]

Dude, I was talking to your mom about the fact that, like, we just went to the moon again, orbited the moon. But I don't know a single person who doesn't have problems with their printer.

[Josh]

True that. Lost technology make a good printer.

[Lily]

Yeah. I was just at the DMV and the guy was, like, literally making jokes behind the desk. He's like, hey, government printers, you never. You know, I was like, of all people, they should have great printers.

[Josh]

Dude, nothing is a great printer.

[Lily]

No, apparently not.

[Josh]

They all break.

[Lily]

It's so difficult to handle.

[Andy]

I didn't know printers were contracted by, like, print. Like, you rent a printer and then you're allowed so many impressions or pages off the printer. Like, that's typically how office contracts work.

[Andrew]

Oh, I know a really good printer. Screen printer. Screen printer Seneca.

[Josh]

Did you guys see the video of one of the astronauts filmed on his iPhone of the backside of the moon?

[Lily]

I did.

[Josh]

That was the coolest thing.

[Lily]

Literally on his iPhone. Yeah. That was so neat, man.

[Josh]

Very cool.

[Lily]

Too bad it's fake.

[Josh]

I know. Speaking of fake moon stuff, we interviewed Bart.

[Lily]

Yes, we did.

[Josh]

We interviewed Bart.

[Lily]

Yes. Simpson cyber Cyril.

[Josh]

One of. He's like Mr. Debunk, the moon landing guy.

[Andy]

He's my grandpa's roommate.

[Josh]

And we will have that episode if it's not up already. We will have that on patreon.

[Lily]

Yes.

[Josh]

And YouTube members, I'm sure. Actually, I know it was a riveting conversation.

[Lily]

Yeah. Because it definitely happened already.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

It's not happening on Thursday, which is like three days from now.

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah. Very cool conversation.

[Andrew]

You came back changed.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

I made a lot of good points.

[Josh]

You did. I remember that.

[Andrew]

Yeah. You're so philosophical, Andy.

[Lily]

What did I say? What did I say that was so philosophical, Lil? I know I could repeat it, but I don't want to pat myself on the back too much.

[Andrew]

You said, yes, Mr. Seabrol, if you're so smart, stop cooking with canola oil.

[Lily]

And I suggested using what kind of oil instead.

[Andrew]

You should use a high quality olive oil from Europe.

[Lily]

I said avocado oil because it has a highest heat temperature.

[Andrew]

Oh, my mistake. I misunderstood.

[Lily]

Yep.

[Josh]

Speaking of scientists.

[Lily]

Yes.

[Josh]

There's more going missing.

[Lily]

What are you talking about? Oh, yeah. Well, this is what you teased. Yeah.

[Josh]

Again, scientists are going missing. And I'll say this, when this comes out. Apparently I saw that today when we're filming this, they're going to make an announcement of like, this is what we think is happening. So everyone watching this is probably already in the know, but probably not because I don't think that they're going to just come out and say, what's happening to all these scientists.

[Lily]

Sure.

[Josh]

We're not the only country that's missing scientists.

[Lily]

What do you mean?

[Andy]

China.

[Josh]

What a lot of scientists actually known confirm. Was it 9? 9 Scientists in China dying very mysteriously or just going missing.

[Andrew]

Wow. Leaving their phones?

[Josh]

I don't know. But that's the thing. We only know about this just through, I think, circumstance, because China, communist state, very tight lipped on media.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Okay.

[Josh]

They don't like to create a buzz. They don't like to sell advertisements. They're just like, we're China.

[Lily]

Yes.

[Josh]

We're fine. We're perfect.

[Andrew]

There's something beautiful about that.

[Josh]

Living in a communist state.

[Lily]

There is. It's. It's very attractive.

[Josh]

Yeah. So nine to ten Chinese scientists have gone missing or have died. Very weird ways. Yeah, but they're all connected to AI programs, drone programs, nuclear programs and classified space programs.

[Lily]

Cool.

[Josh]

Boom. And this has been happening since 2023 through 2026, just these scientists. Boom, boom, boom, boom.

[Lily]

Around the same time that we were seeing them?

[Josh]

Yeah. So there's this one scientist who's actually working. Chinese scientist who's working in the United States. Forgive me for my pronunciation. Oh, try it. Wang Dane Hao.

[Lily]

Nailed it.

[Josh]

Wang Dane Hao.

[Lily]

Nailed it.

[Josh]

Wang Dan Hao.

[Andy]

Yes.

[Josh]

He was a semiconductor researcher at the University of Michigan. Died in 2026 after falling from a building.

[Andrew]

Oh, no.

[Josh]

And authorities called it possible self harm. We don't really know. Yeah, but we're just assuming this guy just wanted to jump off a building.

[Andrew]

Why should you talk it like that?

[Josh]

That's how authorities talk.

[Lily]

Have you ever spoken to authorities?

[Josh]

But yeah, but there's also cases of Chinese or Chinese American scientists facing investigations or pressure before them dying or disappearing.

[Andrew]

Oh, no.

[Josh]

Which adds to the speculation for sure. So they're being questioned and also it's like disappeared.

[Andrew]

Okay, what's your news theory?

[Josh]

Well, I don't know. I'm still on the fact that they're trying. There's something big, whether that's an asteroid or something bigger, like aliens. But it's like they don't. They want to control the narrative.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And if all these people, these scientists know very specific things that could change the narrative, they would want to eliminate that.

[Andy]

Have you heard the second wave of Watcher theory?

[Josh]

No.

[Andy]

That there. There's a second wave of watchers traveling via asteroid and that the anti gravity was going to stop that ability of that to get here in. The elites want that to come because they want the knowledge that comes with the watchers. That's the promised exchange.

[Josh]

That's a fun theory.

[Andy]

I just made it up. I was gonna say it's kind of

[Josh]

weird, but that's fine. Just go with that. Okay, that's fun. But a lot of people I've been seeing are comparing it to the book Three Body Problem.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Yeah. That's where my mind went.

[Josh]

Where a lot of scientists go missing. Go missing or die. And I'm like, this is really weird. So in the book top scientists start dying by others experience hallucinogens. Hallucinations or mental breakdowns.

[Andrew]

Hallucinations.

[Lily]

She would have done it sooner, but she was yawning. And I was waiting for it and I was like, oh, she's not gonna do it. And then you were later.

[Josh]

But I looked into the author because I'm like, who's the author?

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And this is just kind of like it's not, not a very awesome theory, but it's still interesting. Interesting. Just the fact that it's very specific with like space and physics and NASA and anti gravity. All that stuff's in the three body problem. But they're being externally influenced by this alien race that's destroying them.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Because basically it's like the weapons and stuff that the humans are going to create will cause their extinction. So what we're going to do is eliminate them kind of thing. But the author. Sorry again folks. Louis, I don't even know how to say this. L, I, U. Yeah, how do you say that?

[Lily]

Lee? Lou.

[Josh]

Lou.

[Lily]

Yeah, there it is.

[Josh]

Sixen. I don't know how to say his name. The author of Three Body Problems.

[Lily]

Yes.

[Josh]

He himself is a scientist, an engineer. So he's dummy smart.

[Andy]

Very smart.

[Josh]

And so that's why like in his book it's like real physics, real science. But the factory he works for, which is not surprising, is communist owned China.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

So he has a lot of influence in the Chinese government and it just kind of seems like he was propped up a little bit because he is like one of the most famous authors in China.

[Lily]

Okay.

[Josh]

And the world really just with a sci fi books. And it's like China's very selective on who they want to prompt up to, you know, so it's like, it's just interesting. It's like you kind of see this happens a lot with like, what's the, what's the term called? Where it's like a foreknowledge of something or like they, they show it in like a movie or a book. I mean propaganda, not necessarily propaganda. They're like, they're like this is going to happen.

[Lily]

But we're kind of foreshadowing.

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andy]

Prophecy.

[Josh]

But his stuff is so good that even his ideas are talked about in this thing called the SETI circles. S E T I which stands for. Oh, I didn't even write it down. Basically these dudes that scan space and they look for ufos frequencies that come from space. But the stuff that he writes about, these scientists that work for seti, they're like, oh wow, we can really apply this stuff to our stuff.

[Andy]

And they are search for extraterrestrial intelligence.

[Josh]

That's it. And so they basically have giant machines that scan the skies, the space Interview those guys. Yeah, but that's what the three party problem that's how they find out. Well, there's something coming because these SETI guys are scanning the sky.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

I just find it weird that there's a lot of parallels between the three body problem and what's happening right now.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

I don't know what to make of it.

[Lily]

No, I mean, it makes total sense that, like something. If it were to be something big, like that information that they wouldn't want out. It's. These are a lot of big name people in their world. Like, we've never heard of them before they went missing, probably just because we're not in that world. But it's like they have potential to really derail a certain narrative.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

And so, I mean, it makes sense that, like, if something were malicious happening, this is the, the. This is what's going on. The fact that China's got people going on too makes you think, like, who's in charge? Yeah, like who, like the, the New world order or is it another country or whatever? I mean, who knows, man?

[Josh]

Could it be like a. Like a. Kind of like a Cold War kind of thing too, though? Like, could China be taking out our scientists and we're taking out their science?

[Andrew]

Because it's a race.

[Josh]

Because some of the scientists that have gone missing in China were like key scientists in drone and AI technology that would be used for overtaking Taiwan.

[Andrew]

Oh, yeah, totally. Then.

[Josh]

So, like, you see that. But is that being mixed in with, like.

[Andrew]

Yeah, other things too?

[Josh]

Yeah. Is there a narrative being painted?

[Andrew]

Very rarely. Is it one thing.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Have we any recent Bilderberg meetings?

[Josh]

Every year.

[Lily]

I didn't know if it was like an annual thing or if it was

[Josh]

like, I think it's the annual, like.

[Lily]

Or it was like scheduled, like, hey, whatever. We needed to have another one. Why?

[Andrew]

Are you waiting for your invitation?

[Lily]

No, I haven't got a text yet, but I was just curious, like, if it was. More than anything, I'm sure they'll.

[Josh]

I do this.

[Lily]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll see.

[Josh]

Would we go if they invited us?

[Andy]

I'd go.

[Lily]

Well, yeah, of course. What kind of question? Of course we would go.

[Andrew]

Why eat you for dinner?

[Josh]

They probably would.

[Lily]

I would be flattered.

[Josh]

Oh, look at this. Fun. Very plump, very yum.

[Lily]

I would just be upset if I was like. If I was just like an appetizer, though. Dessert or like, third course? Yeah, something, something.

[Andy]

Yeah. Did I make up in my head that you said people involved in AI were also somehow involved in the missing AIs popping? Okay.

[Josh]

Some AI scientists in China, like, leading AI scientists.

[Andy]

So my question then, this. I. I haven't formulated the why, but just. It's interesting. I think Andy was talking about how people who are leaving AI are talking about, like just having this existential dread and they're like, escape. Like their goal is to go enjoy life to the fullest and get as far away from it all. So I think it's interesting, like, that is where AI is going, but why is it that that's an option? Like, people like that are just leaving AI, but then the people involved in the science are being offed. It's interesting that there is a lot of people leaving the AI space and a few elites continuing to climb. I just. It's so. It's so interesting to me the correlation between science and AI and all of it's being covered up to some extent.

[Josh]

It really seems like something ultra sinister, big picture, end of the world kind of stuff is happening.

[Andy]

Agreed.

[Josh]

That's just what it feels like.

[Andrew]

It feels like that to me too. But maybe that's because they're playing frequencies all around us to make us feel scared.

[Josh]

That's possible because.

[Andrew]

Why do I feel scared all the time?

[Josh]

Probably because we talk about scary stuff all the time on this podcast.

[Andrew]

I know. What the heck, guys?

[Josh]

Sorry, dude.

[Andy]

I had a fun theory involving frequency. You know, they talk about babies. You're supposed to play classical music for them. Like that helps their brains develop. What if it's just music before the switch? Like, what if it's whatever the hertz is?

[Josh]

Oh, yeah, I'm sure it is fully

[Andy]

on, but doesn't that check out? I wonder. It'd be interesting to like, see if you could take music from now, shift it through a hertz change, frequency change, and see if it has similar effect.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Be curious. Just a thought.

[Josh]

Speaking of aliens.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

I want to hear your story.

[Lily]

Oh, the Leshy. All right. Are you ready for this?

[Andrew]

The lishy.

[Lily]

It's. It's a happy story.

[Andrew]

Oh, enough.

[Lily]

Okay.

[Andrew]

Your story last week. Awful.

[Lily]

Yeah, yeah, it was. It was pretty rough, but it was fun. It's a little. It's a fun little school.

[Josh]

Go, go. This is depressing.

[Lily]

I am depressed. It's depressing time. So this is a story from 1980. Okay. This guy named Davey moves him and his wife on the outskirts of Eastern Europe into this middle rural area. We're right on the edge of the woods, right? Nice little cabin outdoors. Beautiful. This man, one night. Afternoon. Evening. Goes outside for a walk. He's. He's a snare, you know, he sets snares he hunts for rabbits and stuff like that. So he gets his stuff and he starts walking through this woods. He's not. Hasn't been in these woods very long. They just moved out there. So he had figured out some paths and stuff, you know, very shortly. But he was going to do a long trek, set some snares. And he's walking out there and, you know, he's making sure he's staying on the path. He's setting snares here and there's. And then suddenly he hears his wife yell his name. Yells his name, Davey. And he's like, immediately. Something like that. It was more of a yell, like, hey, like, I need to go help her. And so he. He immediately turns around, starts heading back, you know, kind of like at a quick pace. And then he realizes I. He looks down, he's seeing his own footsteps.

[Andrew]

Oh, my gosh.

[Lily]

Going the opposite way. So it's not like. It's like he was going. Not toward his house. And so he gets kind of turned around.

[Andrew]

Oh, no.

[Lily]

For an hour or two. And every so often, he continues to hear his wife yell his name. Davey yelling it out. And so he's starting to panic a little bit because now these are new woods. He's. He could have swore he stood on the same path, but he's getting lost, right? It's getting darker out, and he's starting to really, really panic. Breathing heavy, he's telling himself, don't freak out. You're gonna find it. Luckily, he sees some light in the distance, and he makes his way toward the edge of the woods, and he sees his house. It's, you know, fine, whatever. He's about to exit the woods into his yard, and he looks inside the house window, and he sees his wife sitting there right in front of the fireplace, reading a book, literally, so relieved. And then suddenly, behind him, what seemed like a hundred, two hundred feet, he hears his wife laughing. Her laugh. He would recognize it. They'd been married for 20, 30 years. He looks behind him and then sprints inside. And she's okay. She had no idea he. She was not yelling his name whatsoever. He tells this story to the local people. He's freaking out. And they said, oh, that was the Leshy.

[Josh]

I'm really scared right now.

[Andy]

You hold on, Tyler.

[Lily]

This is the story of the Leshy. This is. Leshy is a. A being, a human, a monster. Like a legend of Russian Slavic folklore, right? And it's been around for hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years. It's been depicted in movies, the Movie the Ritual. I don't know if you've ever seen that.

[Andrew]

Oh, my gosh. Oh, you mean the scariest movie I've ever seen in my life.

[Lily]

The creature at the very end. Yes, that's. That's loosely based on the Leshy creature. Okay.

[Andrew]

Does he hang people?

[Lily]

It's. It's a lot. Okay, so in the 1600s, there was a book written about the Leshy. And this is one of the excerpts. It says, in the olden day, when forests were larger and denser than where they are than they are now, the Leshy used to be constantly diluting travelers and making them lose their way. Yeah, the Leshy's main goal is when you enter its forest, it wants to lead you to nowhere. Ultimately, a lot of the times it leads to a person's death. It thrives on confusing people. And so the big story was that with no forest was safe, that there was multiples of these creatures that would somehow communicate with one another. And they had different appearances. I'll send some pictures of what depictions of the Leshy, because they change. They are shape shifting creatures most of the time. In its original form, apparently their skin would look like bark, their hair would be green, and their beards would be green, almost mossy type of material. Very, very scary looking things. A lot of them depicted with horns, but they would shift into animals, to trees, into this being, into even people you knew. But if it was a person, there would always be something off. The shoes would always be on the wrong feet. Eye color would be different. You know, there would always be something a little off about the person.

[Andrew]

If you saw a friend and they had their shoes on the wrong feet.

[Lily]

Red flag.

[Andrew]

Run away.

[Lily]

Run right now. I mean, my kids, if that's the prerequisite. They're Leshy.

[Andrew]

Yeah, mine too.

[Lily]

Yeah, but they can shape shift, like I said, they can grow taller than trees and small enough to hide behind a blade of grass is what they used to say. Like, it would be the rustling of leaves, it would be the wind is how they would move. And so they just created this lore of what this creature was. And there would be even times where they'd be camping out in the middle of the woods. And a small Russian orphan, you know, usually dressed in fur, would come up and, you know, they would startle them, but it would ask for food. And if you declined on giving them food, then they would never make it out of the forest. And so it was this whole thing where it was, you had to respect the Leshy whenever you went into the Forest. And it just became this huge story that you would tell children that would tell. And it became an oral tradition for hundreds of years. Even after the Slavic people were scattered all over, it continued. And they would meet up with people in other lands that would have similar stories about this creature that lived in the woods. And it could disguise itself, like I said, alters its voice. And the only way to protect yourself, apparently, was to make a cross.

[Josh]

Sign of a cross.

[Lily]

Make a sign of a cross, carry a cross or say a prayer, or wearing your clothes backward is a big thing. But it always. I looked it up. One of the things was that you don't like. It doesn't like whistling in the woods. And apparently that's a huge, ancient thing, like, all over where don't whistle in the woods. And so, like, that little thing right there ties back to the Leshy. And so, like, it's kind of a common understanding. Don't whistle in the woods whatsoever.

[Josh]

Oh, creepy.

[Lily]

Yeah, it's very, very scary. But it was passed down. And the word Leshy in Russian means wood demon, which is terrifying.

[Andrew]

Oh, my gosh.

[Lily]

And the stories. I was trying to look up the origins and apparently this is what blew me away. The origin of the story comes from a Christian background.

[Andy]

Whoa.

[Lily]

Because ancient. Ancient people in these areas claimed that they came down during the war of angels. And so when angels were cast down, some were stuck and forbidden, like, to leave the forest. And so that's literally like. I'm like, oh, man, this is watcher stuff. And you talk about they have a look of vegetation and they. They can manipulate nature and stuff like that. Like, that's how far this thing goes. And so it continues on and on. Huntsmen and, like, herdsmen would only. They would have to secure their safety in, like, good, successful hunts if they denounce Christianity. So that's that. That's. Yeah, that's what goes back to the wood demon thing. Right. And in the 1850s, they did a big study in that area and it found that they. The word was. Most people say they have encountered personally the Leshy.

[Andrew]

Oh, my gosh.

[Lily]

And so it was that frequent where it was just like a common thing. And this is kind of a wacky thing. But they say the Leshies would communicate with each other and actually meet and they would play certain games and bet, you know, parts of their nature with theirs. And so there was this, like, graph that was made up of these weird supernatural animal migrations that would happen in Russia. Like thousands upon thousands, if not millions of squirrels would move over into a certain forest for no reason, and they would stay there. And so that's the. That was part of the lore. It's like, oh, so that person lost a bet. Yeah, the Leshy were betting. And they would have. And it would make no sense why these animals would migrate to certain areas out of nowhere for, you know, no reason. But that's the story of the Leshy. And. But there is one more story that I heard that I have to tell you.

[Andrew]

You.

[Lily]

So I started with one, and I'm gonna end with one.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

So it's this father and son, they're going out fishing near a river, right? And so they're going. And they're taking a walk, and it's, you know, he's a younger boy, probably 7 years old, and it's the dad. And they have their stuff, they have their lures, everything like that. And they're going fishing. And while they're coming up onto the stream, they hear a moo in the forest, a cow, which they assume was a cow. And so the dad knows that his neighbor always has cows getting out. And so he just wanted to go and check, make sure so that way they can communicate and get that cow wrangled up again. So he tells the son, stay by the stream. I'll be right back. This is where they, you know, this is like 15 years ago. So they had phones. The dad leaves, goes and tries to find the cow. And he's. He knows the woods. He's taken this path and suddenly can't hear it anymore. Takes him out to a meadow. He's kind of looking around, and then suddenly he hears a laugh in the trees, like toward the top of the trees. So he moves over, and he's kind of getting irritated, like there's some kids messing around out here, and it's not their land. It's like, what are you doing? Pinecone hits his head. Then he gets ticked off, Yells some obscenities towards these kids in the tree, right? And gets ticked off. And then suddenly looks over, across the meadow is this woman in a nightgown who looks to be pregnant. And she's laughing. And she looks over at him. He looks at her and she says out loud, like, across the meadow, she says, you're lost, aren't you? He gets kind of weirded out. Fair, right? So he crosses the meadow and he. Like, by this time, like, he had been walking so long, it probably about 30 minutes or so, comes back, his boy is still there. And he says, that was quick. He said, I mean, yeah. He looks at his phone. Only gone because he sent a text to his friend, his neighbor. Only gone for two minutes.

[Andy]

Yo.

[Lily]

So he's very, very weirded out, but something seems a little off with his son.

[Andrew]

Oh, no. Oh, no.

[Lily]

He said there was one green eye. So they get done fishing, they fish

[Josh]

for a little bit.

[Lily]

They get done fishing, and they're on their way back, and then suddenly he hear. The boy says he heard a. They heard the moo again. But he. The boy said he thought he heard a meow, like a cat. And so he runs in after the. Into the woods. His dad's just standing there waiting for him. Like, he's, like, gonna go grab and then come back gone. So the dad goes in there, cannot find his son. Hours on end, searching, Comes back into town, get some other friends, Ghost searching, Nothing. All night search the next day, still nothing. Word gets out. In the local village, a woman who's kind of known as a. Kind of a witchy lady comes up and tells him exactly what's happening. This is a Leshy. The Leshy has your son. You must respect what's going on here. Understand? You do not. Like, you know, like, here are the rules. Yada, yada, yada. Go out there, leave a sacrifice, which. Or a gift, which is bread and salt, apparently. I don't know, but apparently one of those things that ticked him, like, ticked the Leshy off, is when he was yelling obscenities. Yeah, it was kind of like the whistling. It's a disrespect of their nature and woods, they're kind of like the guardians of these woods. Right? And so he does that, and his son comes back completely fine.

[Andrew]

And does he have any memory?

[Lily]

No memory whatsoever. He thought he had just left his dad.

[Josh]

Bad.

[Lily]

And that is the story of the Leshy. It goes on for hundreds of years,

[Andrew]

you booger for telling me that story.

[Lily]

Isn't that wild?

[Josh]

That's one of the scariest.

[Lily]

Dude, it's so creepy. Especially watching the movies.

[Andrew]

Like, you saw the movie the Ritual. You would. He showed me this away where he. Where he sticks them on tree branch.

[Josh]

He didn't show me that.

[Lily]

No, I just showed him, like, the creature. But how they can morph and have, like, basically have you hallucinate and everything like that. It's just such a. A while.

[Andrew]

What is the component where, like, they go into the church and they become immortal, but they're just melting away in these pews, like their immortality was a trick.

[Lily]

I don't know what you're talking about.

[Andrew]

At the end of the movie.

[Lily]

I don't remember that.

[Andrew]

Yeah. At the end of the movie, the guy lives through all of this horror and then he's. He was like, the question is, do you want to suffer the same fate as your friends or do you want immortality? And he's like, like. But then he goes and he sees what the immortality is and it's all these people melting away in this church.

[Andy]

Oh, gosh.

[Andrew]

That have been do like for thousands of years.

[Lily]

Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy.

[Andrew]

The scariest movie I ever seen in my life.

[Lily]

It is pretty terrifying. It's done super well.

[Andy]

I want to watch Netflix. Josh. Watch the movie. So like the screen can be on. You can be here facing that way. And I'm going to be facing.

[Andrew]

I watched that movie before I was a believer. And I remember distinctly thinking, this is evil.

[Lily]

But just like the shots it would do, like they would hear like a twig snap or rust leaves. Russell. And that. That's one. That's part of the lore too, where everything gets completely silent. There's no more wind, there's no more birds. And then they're just looking into the vastness of the forest where it's just tree after tree after tree. And you subtly see something and you're like, what didn't. Did I see that? Did I really see that or not? Not.

[Andrew]

There's something primitive. It's almost like it has been etched into our. Into our genetics. Like, it feels like this is true. This has happened.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Watching that movie. This is real.

[Andy]

I want to be able to walk into the woods in the dark so we can move on.

[Lily]

This is this reality, bro.

[Andrew]

But this is all European, right? It's not an American thing.

[Lily]

No. There's a lady in Kentucky that has a story too. Oh, no, no joke. Like, it just like a 20 foot beam, like just standing. And she's. And she's like, she seems completely sane. Where she's just like. I was walking and I'm carrying firewood. And I look up and this thing's standing between. She's like, I know these. This woods. There's two big trees. And then it's standing in between.

[Andrew]

Goodness.

[Lily]

And she drops it and she looks down and she's so scared. She looks back up and it's gone.

[Andrew]

Oh my gosh.

[Andy]

It's the same thing. The Middle Eastern skinwalker that I talk about, they. Where the legs are on backwards and they're on the side of the road. It's that same thing. And then the. One of the first Cryptid stories I Told I got it from expanded perspectives where there's a woman yelling for help, and sure enough, there's a hunter in the woods trying to take something. And turns out a skinwalker approached the tree where the guy was sitting against.

[Andrew]

Oh, my gosh. That's interesting, though. Tool in your tool belt. Sign of the cross.

[Josh]

Well, yeah, I mean, that is interesting that. I mean, it all flex back, rushing

[Andy]

me with my bow the whole time.

[Josh]

Well, I mean, the. But orthodox, you can go super far back in Christianity, the Christian history of the Fathers and stuff. And a lot of these, like, the desert fathers and stuff, they talk about the one thing that dispels Satan and the demons and stuff is literally just doing the sign of the cross.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And it seems. It's like, okay, this seems like, just like a little. But like. I mean, and these stories, like, the power of that, which is like. It's just like a. Like a. You're just declaring, like, price is my protector, you know, Lord. Oh, my gosh.

[Andy]

It's like, super similar to the. The haunted cosmos theory that, like, all of the weird, witchy and spooky things that once existed in these places were, like. Were dispelled by the expanse of Christendom. And, like, how a lot of that stuff, like. Like even serpents. And there's a church. I forget where it is. I should have done better research, but apparently there's some cathedral church somewhere on an island where the. The lore was that it was. The island was owned by a demonic dragon. And then, like, a guy showed up, dispelled or dispatched the dragon, and then St. George, maybe. I. I really can't remember, but I just. I think it's so interesting that the spooky legends often come face to face with the expanse of Christianity and then disappear. And so whether it's literal or not, I think literal would be, like what it physically looked like. But something spiritual for sure probably existed. That might even be scarier. Yeah. That was crazy.

[Lily]

Yeah. It's fun, right?

[Andrew]

That is a very scary story.

[Andy]

I was.

[Josh]

You have no idea how scared I

[Lily]

was when I was listening to that first story. I was like, that's the scariest thing. The woman laughing, like, no, thank you. Like, you. You know, your wife's laugh, like. And so, like, just hearing that and, like, knowing it's behind you and you're looking at her.

[Andrew]

Oh, my gosh.

[Lily]

The most terrifying thing in the world.

[Josh]

It's like that mov. Was it annihilation? Is that with Natalie Portman?

[Lily]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Josh]

Where everything. It's like, this Weird alien thing that, like, changes plants and animals and that bear that eats the ladies.

[Andy]

But it's like that I saw that dramatize me saying, I'm just like, oh, oh, my gosh.

[Josh]

So scary.

[Lily]

All right, you want to hear about a monk? Monk.

[Josh]

I would love to hear about monk.

[Lily]

All right. Speaking of monks, let me tell you about Benki the warrior monk. This is an awesome shorter story.

[Josh]

Benki is a cool name.

[Andrew]

I was gonna say. It's a good dog name.

[Lily]

It's a great name. So this is a.

[Josh]

Hey, man, this is a warrior for Christ.

[Andrew]

I love dogs.

[Lily]

I must. You must love dogs. Good movie. So Benki the warrior monk was this seven foot man back in the day, long, long time ago. That was a. Oh, is this Buddhist

[Josh]

monk or Christian monk?

[Lily]

I really don't know. I. I mean, probably. Probably Buddhist, I imagine. I'm not really sure. But this guy was an absolute warrior. He carried a sword that you can go. And they have. I don't think it's the real one, but it's a replica and you can go. And the biggest, strongest guy is they wrap their arms around it. You can, like, try to lift it up. It's like it was almost as tall as his £300 sword that he would just swing.

[Andrew]

Wow.

[Lily]

Right. And so there was at one point where he was on a bridge and he was facing off with samurai. And this is a story that's credible. Obviously there's been things that have, you know, been built up over time, but the. The sword's real. He was real, but the story is just iconic. And so he's on this bridge and in front of him are over 900 samurai soldiers, right? And one by one, he took them out collecting their swords. Whenever you're done with the samurai, you collect their sword. And that's what he did. So creating this huge, ginormous pile of swords as one by one comes up and he just demolishes them. Right. 999 Samurai 1 comes up at the very end. Yoto Mono was his name.

[Josh]

Also cool name.

[Lily]

Also great name. Yeah. A lot smaller, obviously, than Beni. Everyone was. But this guy, they. They cla. They described him as dancing around Ben Key swings would just move and do tiny cuts. Like not trying to kill Ben Key, but proving to him, I'm a better samurai than you are. I'm a better warrior. And so at one point, Ben Key gets so exhausted and just realizes, I can't beat this guy. And so instead of, you know, you know, walking away or giving up completely, he devotes his life and says, right then and there, there you are, my master, Yoto Mono. And so they team up, they partner up, and they go into. I think it was called the. The genpai war. Yeah, it was this big civil war in Japan that just.

[Josh]

Yeah, they.

[Lily]

They fought together in. And at one point, Yoto Mono needed to escape to go help the other troops, and they wouldn't allow him. So Ben Ki stood in the way of this on this bridge and stood there with his sword. Arrows. Arrows landing inside Ben Ki. Hundreds of arrows at one point. And apparently, the legend goes, Benke stood there with his sword, died with his eyes wide open, and did not move, did not fall. He stood dying.

[Josh]

Dang.

[Lily]

And that's the legend of Benke, the warrior monk. Dude. So cool.

[Josh]

It needs to be a movie. Yeah, it was a movie. Tom Cruise played him. Green Mile, the last samurai.

[Lily]

Oh, yeah, yeah. That's true. Yeah. Tom Cruise.

[Andrew]

My dad loves Tom Cruise.

[Josh]

Is tall, right?

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

100% super tall.

[Lily]

7ft feet.

[Andy]

Cool story.

[Lily]

It's fun. As soon as I learned, I saw. Because I saw somebody lifting up the store. Like, they're like this big museum of him.

[Josh]

And I've seen a couple times.

[Lily]

Crazy.

[Josh]

And everyone goes, oh.

[Lily]

Oh, yes, man.

[Josh]

Dang, Binky.

[Lily]

I want to die standing up, pooping.

[Josh]

I got a small thing.

[Lily]

Most die standing up, pooping.

[Andrew]

Nice.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Small thing, but it's a cool thing.

[Lily]

Hit me.

[Andy]

History.

[Josh]

It's history, baby. How much do you know about pirates? Who would you say is the most famous pirate that you know of?

[Lily]

Blackbeard.

[Josh]

That would be accurate. Probably the most famous pirate that we all know of, right?

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Well, this lady makes Blackbeard look like a little dummy.

[Lily]

Really?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Okay, what's her name? I can't wait to hear.

[Josh]

Chinese pirate.

[Lily]

That's her name. No Chinese pirate.

[Josh]

Her name is Qing Xi Ching Xi. Yeah. Xi Xia, also known as Zheng Yi Sao. But she. Her story is insane. So terrible beginning.

[Lily]

Okay.

[Josh]

She was a concubine. Cambodian concubine. She ends up having one of her friends.

[Andy]

Patrons.

[Josh]

Patrons was a pirate captain named Xing Yi. And he's like, I want to marry you. And she's like, okay, yeah, you can marry me. But.

[Lily]

There's always a but, man.

[Josh]

If you marry me, let me take over half of your piracy. And he said, sure. So she became basically part owner in this piracy giant, piracy, called the Red Flag. Or were they the Red Flag? The Red Flag fleet.

[Andrew]

Cool, cool.

[Josh]

And they were only married for about three years, and he passed away. He had a Adopted son, who he basically adopted in order to give the Red Flag fleet to. And then. What's her name? Ching. She's like, hey, why don't we get married?

[Andy]

Ew.

[Josh]

And he's like, all right.

[Lily]

He's adopted.

[Josh]

But then she's like, just give me. She's like, just give me the whole Red Flag fleet. And he's like, all right.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Because she was just extraordinary at what she. She did.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

At her peak, she had 1800 ships in her command.

[Andrew]

Oh, my gosh.

[Josh]

With over 80,000 pirates working for her.

[Andrew]

Oh, my goodness.

[Lily]

Boss lady.

[Andrew]

Wow.

[Josh]

And in comparison, Blackbeard had four ships.

[Andrew]

Okay.

[Josh]

And 300 people.

[Lily]

Why are we listening? Why are we hearing about Blackbeard?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

Well, more chain.

[Josh]

So Captain Ching Shi.

[Lily]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Josh]

She just was basically the. The Chinese route. She would just control that territory.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

The. She would go against the British naval. She would go against Chinese. The whole. Their whole navy, and they could not stand up against her fleet.

[Lily]

That's awesome.

[Josh]

She would go up against the East Indian Trading Company.

[Andrew]

Oh, my gosh. So parts of the character.

[Josh]

That lady is her Very. Yeah.

[Lily]

That's fun.

[Josh]

Very cool.

[Lily]

That's amazing.

[Josh]

And you think she would meet this terrible ending, right?

[Lily]

Yeah. Like cannonball to death or something.

[Josh]

Nope.

[Lily]

What'd you do?

[Josh]

The kingdom of China.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Basically was like, we can't beat you. Because her. Her fleet was bigger than their navy. She controlled the seas. They're like, please stop, and we'll do whatever you want. And she's like, okay, let me keep all of my loot, and then you pay me, and I'll just retire. Give me land, and I'll just retire. And they said, deal.

[Lily]

Just pay me not to take over you.

[Josh]

And that's what they did.

[Lily]

That's what they did.

[Josh]

And she just retired. But she's infamous for, like, her pirate rules. Like, this is why I think her pirates were so successful, because she's super strict.

[Andrew]

She ran a tight ship.

[Josh]

She did.

[Andy]

Nice.

[Josh]

A cheight ship.

[Andrew]

Enough of that.

[Josh]

That was dumb. But basically, it was like, if you disobeyed orders, you're beheaded.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Okay.

[Josh]

If you would steal from the communal loot, you were killed.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

If the pirates took advantage of women captives killed, good for her. And even if they had consensual relationships with the captives, they would still be punished, typically executed.

[Andrew]

Oh, my God.

[Lily]

Because there's no consensual when you're a captive. So.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

But yeah, it was the Dynasty Navy. I don't even know how to say it, but, yeah, she would just go up against that Chinese dynasty and just kick butt, man. But yeah, dude, she was, like, one of the most. What's the word? Successful pirates.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Ever.

[Lily]

Yeah, maybe. That's amazing.

[Andrew]

Maybe we should name our pirate or rules in our household. Pirate rules. These are the pirate rules.

[Josh]

That would be fun.

[Andrew]

The girls would love that.

[Josh]

So, yeah, that's. That's my. That's my pirate tale.

[Lily]

That's amazing. How have we never heard of her before?

[Josh]

That's what I'm saying.

[Lily]

Like, that's a hero, dude.

[Andrew]

Patriarchy.

[Josh]

That's why I don't know how much of a hero she was. I think she killed a lot of

[Lily]

people, but leadership, though. Golly, dude. Boss lady.

[Josh]

Yeah. Makes Jocko look like a fool.

[Lily]

Dude. That's crazy. I love that. Dude, we need to do pirate stories.

[Andy]

That's what I'm. I'm, like, literally trying to remember a story. I'll have to look it up and get back to it. But there's, like, legends of, like, how Destin. Like, Destin Florida. That east pass was dug out by pirates as a way of escaping, so everyone thought there was, like, only one entrance. Like, there's so many cool pirate stories.

[Lily]

It was a whole other life.

[Andy]

What did they live back then that should be. The quest of this podcast is we just periodically tell pirate stories. But eventually, like, when this show goes away, you'll know we finally found a treasure, dude.

[Andrew]

Maybe, like, we should become a pirate podcast. And maybe they'll let us film at the Castillo de San Marco. What is that, the fort in St. Augustine?

[Lily]

Oh, cool.

[Andrew]

How cool would that be to film there?

[Lily]

I wonder if there's ever been a podcast there. That's what I want to start doing. Just, like, find out places there's never been a podcast. And let's be the first.

[Andrew]

Sick. You know they have Osceola's jail cell there. Chief Osceola?

[Lily]

I don't even know who this.

[Andrew]

He was a Native American chief, okay? He died in that prison.

[Lily]

Really?

[Andrew]

They say. And he haunts it.

[Lily]

Ooh, fun.

[Josh]

I just sent you guys a portrait of Ching Si. See? I know I'm saying her name.

[Lily]

Yeah. What year was this? Oh, man, how cool.

[Josh]

The 1800s.

[Lily]

She looks awesome.

[Andrew]

Oh, she's baller. Dude, I hate that picture with the owl. Who sent that? Andy. Golly.

[Lily]

Wow.

[Andrew]

He's got fungus growing on him. And his eyes are an owl's eyes.

[Lily]

Now we know Lily's Halloween costume.

[Andrew]

Which one?

[Lily]

Ching.

[Andrew]

Oh,

[Josh]

crazy stuff.

[Andy]

Good stuff.

[Josh]

That was good stuff.

[Lily]

That's so fun, too. Bad. We're done talking about fun topics for the day.

[Josh]

Yeah. Too bad not. Guys, we got an extra episode right after this on our Patreon. Patreon.com forward slash. Ninjas or butterflies. Or if you join our YouTube membership.

[Lily]

Yes. You get a bunch of free bonus content. You get extra content every single week if you subscribe. It's going to be wonderful. We're going to be talking. I have a chimpanzee story that turns into a success story. Chimpanzee attack.

[Andrew]

No, thanks.

[Lily]

You could say, but it ends happy.

[Andrew]

Tell it to somebody else.

[Lily]

Ends happy.

[Andrew]

I don't want to hear it.

[Lily]

I'll tell it to somebody else. The lily that's going to exist 20 years, 20 minutes from now. It's going to be great.

[Andy]

Different color.

[Josh]

And I have some information regarding Russian propaganda and Candace Owens.

[Lily]

Ooh. Some say that goes hand in hand.

[Josh]

Good stuff, y'.

[Andy]

All.

[Lily]

Yes.

[Josh]

Remember, guys, comment on this video. Like it, share it, subscribe. And we are choosing one winner every single week to send some ninja merch to. And if you need custom apparel for you, your business, your church, your camp, whatever, go to sundaycool.com and start your order today.

[Lily]

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[Josh]

Yeah.

[Lily]

So much fun. Also, sundaycoolswag.com get that shirt right there. We got a lot. Oh, we got some fun shirts. Behind Andrew is a little sneak peek of what shirts are to come. So keep an eye out and I

[Andy]

just want to say thank you on the podcast. You guys have been super gracious for me. I just had a kid, so you've been super guys.

[Josh]

Comment? Congrats, Andrew and the kid.

[Lily]

I totally didn't know that. That's amazing. That's incredible.

[Josh]

Yeah. Congrats, Andrew.

[Andy]

Thanks for. Thanks for the two weeks off. It's been awesome.

[Josh]

It's gonna be great.

[Lily]

It's gonna be awesome.

[Josh]

All right, guys. We love you, Patreon.

[Lily]

Bye bye.

[Andy]

Bye bye.

[Lily]

If any of you know with these

[Andy]

multi decade UAP dolphins are aliens.

[Lily]

Bottle nose fish pics, there's a massive police response. Oh, the dolphin thing.

[Andy]

Oh, my God.

[Lily]

Dolphin style attack.

[Josh]

All right, disperse.

[Lily]

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