196 - Demons Disguised as Aliens & Dark Government Secrets | NAB x Ruslan KD

Summary

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Ninjas Are Butterflies: Episode 196

Title: Demons Disguised as Aliens & Dark Government Secrets | NAB x Ruslan KD
Release Date: May 29, 2026
Guest: Ruslan KD

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Overview

In this lively episode of Ninjas Are Butterflies, hosts Josh Hooper and Andy DeNoon welcome back Ruslan KD for a deep-dive into conspiracies, the supernatural, and the intersection of faith and the bizarre. They tackle topics ranging from recent “alien disclosure” scandals to spiritual warfare in modern culture—blending humor, music, and personal stories throughout.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Tour Life, Live Events, and Collaborations

• Ruslan shares updates on touring, upcoming events, and a desire to bring the NAB crew back for future summits.
• Discussion of anxiety around live events and stage fright, with both hosts and Ruslan opening up about personal experiences.
  • "I've been really suffering with like anxiety and I've always had stage fright. Bro, that was so hard." – Josh (05:03)
• Collaborative ambitions for Christian media and comedy events in the future.

2. Aliens, UFOs, and “Disclosure”: Is It Demonic?

The Christian Pastors’ “UFO Briefing” Scandal

• The panel unpacks recent viral claims that a government intelligence group held briefings with Christian pastors about imminent alien disclosure.
• They clarify:
  • Claims were vastly exaggerated or misrepresented.
  • The actual meeting was just with private Christian UFO enthusiasts, not government officials.
  • Sensationalism and clickbait often overtake facts—even in faith communities.
  • “What happened was, they were almost being very good YouTubers. Sensationalizing and embellishing...You can't do clickbait as a pastor!” – Ruslan (21:52)
• Critique of how media and even mainstream outlets like Joe Rogan ran with the story, damaging credibility.

The Truth About UFOs

• Skepticism about what, if anything, governments really know.
• Some believe there are materials/crafts in possession, but explanations may be mundane or military in nature.
• Debate: Alien encounters are often fear-based, paralleling demonic encounters.
  • “I really think that aliens...I think it's a demonic [force]—and demonic is just a broad term for entities we don't even know about, but dark, sinister, not good.” – Josh (46:07)
• “Missing time” in abduction stories leads to speculation on time manipulation—parallels drawn to spiritual or biblical time distortion stories.
• The panel explores the blurry lines between angelic, demonic, and unexplained phenomena.

3. Personal Testimonies: Ruslan’s Family UFO Sighting

• Ruslan calls his mother live (37:01–40:08):
  • She recounts a 1982 sighting of a green cloud that followed them near Baku, Azerbaijan.
    • “I saw a huge green cloud. And that cloud was kind of following us. We stopped, the cloud stopped. We're moving, the cloud moving. And then it became small. Small. And it was gone.” – Ruslan’s mom (37:42)
  • The incident curiously matches a New York Times report of a UFO/green cloud sighting at the same year and place.
    • “A green cloud adds to Soviet UFO lore... witnessed by a plane crew and ground controllers.” – Andy/Chris (40:24–41:05)
• Reflections on time dilation in both biblical and UFO lore.

4. Demonic Clouds, Spiritual Time, and Biblical Theories

• The concept: Cloud/time dilation as both a biblical and modern UFO motif.
• Theory discussed: Jesus’s transfiguration as an event where time was “crossed,” meeting Moses and Elijah in their own eras (43:11–44:29).
• Experiences with fear or love during angelic/demonic encounters are compared to abduction cases.
• “If they sense your fear and prey on your fear and incite more fear, clearly demonic.” – Josh, quoting St. Anthony (46:38)

5. Government Manipulation, Media Distrust, and Secret Agendas

• The hosts voice suspicion about government/media responses to both alien phenomena and viral stories:
  • Distractions from real scandals? (e.g., Epstein files, war news).
  • “What if the technology is actually ... enclosed drones? ... And these crafts that they're finding are actually enclosed drones with little people inside of them?” – Ruslan (32:22)
• The CP ring on Disney Cruises (72:35) is mentioned as a suppressed scandal, possibly overshadowed by convenient “hantavirus” news cycles.
• Punning on variant names (Delta + Omicron = “Media Control”, 78:30) and speculation about “hanta” meaning fake/scam in other languages (74:10–75:13).
• Patent discussion: “Sleeper cell” proteins triggered by outside frequencies for mind/body control—a chilling hypothetical (76:42).

6. Sinister Culture: LA, Satan’s Throne, and Spiritual Influence

• Is LA or some other city a modern “Throne of Satan” (88:10–91:03)?
• Reflections on spiritual oppression and how environments (esp. LA/Hollywood) seem to spiritually erode faith in some who move there.
• “There’s a weird energy to the city...a spirit over the city…entertainment, lust, pride—that's what sells.” – Ruslan (82:04)
• The original use of Hollywood for biblical films; now a battleground of spiritual influence—but hopeful signs exist.

7. Grim Reaper: True Origins and European Lore

• Chris brings a story from 16th-century Germany where villagers witnessed hooded, sickle-wielding entities before a plague breakout (95:13–98:17).
  • “It appeared: 15 and then 12 hooded men, dressed in black, terrifying and distorted faces… swinging their scythes. The next day—boom, bubonic plague hits that village.” – Chris (95:20)
• This historical lore is tied to the iconography of the Grim Reaper (98:03).

8. Humor, Music, and Banter

• Episode includes an improvised “boom bap” rap honoring Ruslan (10:09–13:25).
• Light-hearted banter about Canadians, crazy LA stories, and the perils of curry takeout.
• Running jokes about firing podcast member Lily (59:22), buying gongs, and creating “Pentecostal Punch” Christian energy drinks (58:32–59:17).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “What happened was, they were almost being very good YouTubers. Sensationalizing and embellishing...You can't do clickbait as a pastor!” – Ruslan (21:52)
• “If they sense your fear and prey on your fear and incite more fear, clearly demonic.” – Josh quoting St. Anthony (46:38)
• “A green cloud adds to Soviet UFO lore...witnessed by a plane crew and ground controllers.” – Andy/Chris (40:24–41:05)
• “If you want good stuff, you can find good stuff. ...I think there’s something happening.” – Ruslan (90:26)
• On LA’s darkness: “There is a weird energy to the city... a spirit over the city. Entertainment, lust, pride—that's what sells.” – Ruslan (82:04)
• “15 hooded men swinging sickles...then the next day, BOOM. Bubonic plague.” – Chris (95:20)

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Important Timestamps

• 04:00 — Discussion of touring, live shows, and “Bless God” events.
• 14:47–15:15 — Prompt: Are aliens demons or angels?
• 19:11–22:52 — The “pastor UFO briefing” scandal, fact-checking and media analysis.
• 37:01–40:08 — Ruslan’s mom testifies about the Soviet green cloud UFO.
• 43:11–44:29 — Time dilation clouds in the Bible.
• 46:07–47:37 — Differentiating demonic and angelic encounters (St. Anthony).
• 61:00–66:08 — Mayor arrested as Chinese agent; implications for propaganda.
• 72:35–74:32 — Disney cruise CP ring and hantavirus news distraction.
• 76:42–78:13 — Gov’t “sleeper cells” patent and biocontrol fears.
• 82:04–85:27 — Ruslan on LA’s spiritual oppression and Christian media hope.
• 95:13–98:17 — Grim Reaper origin: plague, hooded figures, and ancient death lore.

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Closing Segment

Ruslan plugs his new book Godly Ambition (“all about using your talent, your treasure, your purpose and walking through purpose and calling,” 101:10) as well as a corresponding music album and devotional, Occupy Till I Come.

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Final Thoughts

The episode effortlessly moves between thoughtful, theological debates about the supernatural and irreverent, comedic riffing. The hosts and Ruslan offer skepticism and encouragement, reminding listeners to be discerning about sensational claims—whether about UFOs, sinister governments, or spiritual battlegrounds in the world and within themselves.

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Listen if:
You love the intersection of comedy, Christian faith, urban legends, government conspiracies, and late-night podcast energy.

Skip if:
You’re looking for strictly serious, tightly organized theological discussion.

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Transcript

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We also talk about the throne of Satan.

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Is it la?

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Is it France? We also talk about the Grim Reaper and the origins of it, and it's spooky as heck.

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And you have the chance to win free ninja merch. All you have to do is comment below on this video and we're going to pick someone at random. You could win a ton of stuff. It's not just shirts. We got stickers. We got other stuff that might get thrown into. Andy does it. So whatever I say, he has to put in. So shirt sticker. Maybe a hoop. Maybe a hat.

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Pickles. Dude,

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I've been cranking blackberries. So, like, whenever I go to shows, like, I have blackberries with me, they are the best solo calories. So high fiber, they've keep you full, you know, so.

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And they're great on everything.

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Yeah, blackberries go hard. So, dude, I'm pumped for you guys, man. That's like really encouraging to hear. Yeah, I. I'm going to Cabo in two months and I was just like, I'm taking a family vacation. I just want to walk around the beach with my shirt off and, like,

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not have to worry, you know? Like, you not have any thoughts whatsoever. It's like, man, I feel gross right now.

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Yeah, I want to take my shirt off and look like a superhero for my kids. So that's the. That's the plan. It's just hard with traveling, man.

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I was just making.

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Yeah, bro.

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It's brutal.

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How much longer is your tour?

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This is the last stop.

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I'm okay.

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Tampa tomorrow. I'm done. Oh, I'm not going anywhere.

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What do you got next, travel wise? Yeah, just like. Or business wise.

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Father's Day summit. I take my dad. My dad. Father's Day speaking thing with my son, a couple conferences, but they're all like, in and out, you know? And then. Yeah, I'm trying not to do much other stuff. Like, I'm so tired, dude. I'm just like.

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Are you looking to bless God 2027?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. I really do want to have you guys back. We're gonna. I think we got. We're starting to get some soft yeses already, so love you guys back. Trizzle will be back.

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Same venue?

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I think so.

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That was a dope venue.

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Such a good venue and it's such a fun, like, just vacation for people.

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Yeah.

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I have not. I'm not trying to flex, but like, every church asking us to do it there, just like, dude, just do it here. We'll give you the venue for free. You can use our tech av. I'm like, it's just not the same.

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Yeah.

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When you do it at a church.

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Yeah.

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But yeah, being.

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Being less than 100ft away from the beach is a game changer. And the amphitheater right there.

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Yeah.

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Was incredible.

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Yeah. So we're gonna. We're gonna. We're gonna do it again. But, yeah, we got. I think we got like, Melissa Dodery. That's down. I think Frank Turek. I don't know if you guys know Frank Turk is. He's down. He gave me a soft yes. And then. Yeah. And then we're just gonna rebook some other stuff. Some comedy. You guys familiar with the Lord's Giant? Yeah.

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Oh, yeah. Benjamin. Yeah.

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So Ben.

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And we've invited him on the podcast. He hasn't said anything yet.

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He's great.

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I mean, he said he wanted to,

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but he hasn't came they him and been. What is it?

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Josh Benson.

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Josh Benson are doing a pod, so they want to come.

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Cool.

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That'd be awesome. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So we could do a pod then.

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Yeah, maybe. Yeah, we'll, we'll have a better podcast set up this coming year so that like we'll have a room you guys can go into and everyone can just like pod while they're there.

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So cool.

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Shane Stack.

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Shane.

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He's so good.

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Wasn't that so good?

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That was very good.

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He's amazing.

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So fun, man.

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Yeah, Yeah. I do a talk like on my, my, my tour stuff. I do like an origin talk that is that I bounced off of him. I don't call it comedy because I would like respect real comedians too much. But there's like some good amount of jokes in there and so I bounced it off of him. It's similar, his story. Like he has like, it's like similar stuff. So I'm talking about like joining a gang and yeah, all this sort of stuff. But he's, he was really helpful to like just kind of be a bouncing pad off of stuff.

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Dude, he was great. So funny.

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Dude, going to your event was the hardest thing because I, I been like really suffering with like anxiety and I've always had stage fright. Bro, that was so hard. I, I freaking.

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I could tell you were just kind of powering through it and I took

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way too much of my anxiety medicine to where it was like working against me at that point. I'm just like, I want to fall

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asleep so bad, but I'm freaking out. Just blood pressure of zero. Oh gosh.

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But you killed it though.

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You guys do your own live events though, right?

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We've only done one tour, like so three shows.

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Okay.

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Yeah, they went decent.

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How did you feel? Good.

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Two out of three. You threw up?

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It was equally bad.

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Yeah.

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The third one or the second one? The Tampa one. I started getting a panic attack on stage. I'm like, well, this sucks. I'm like, just, I can't just leave.

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And you're talking full on. Like you think like chess. Panic attack.

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Yeah.

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That's brutal. Yeah.

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And then I'm like taking off my sweater.

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I'm like, yeah, that happened to me. Angela from Girls Gone Bible, she had a moment where she was about to go out and had a full on panic attack. I'm like, I, I can't go out there. Like, I can't go out.

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Oh really? Was she at Blessed God?

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She was not.

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No.

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I thought we were. Yeah, okay.

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No, they're friends of mine though, and so they talked about it and I just kind of checked in on them. But yeah, it's not uncommon, dude. Especially when like you're not used to being in front of people.

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Yeah, I'm not. I actually hate it.

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You're so good at this, though.

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The billions of people watching, they're not.

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I'm not standing there. I can't see them.

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There's Chris, there's Angela, There's.

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It's one of those Japanese game shows where all the walls fall down.

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It's been live in front of an audience.

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Oh, man. Still haven't added a gong.

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Yeah, we need a gong.

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We need to buy a gong. You got a gong?

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I sent him.

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I probably have a gong effect somewhere, cuz.

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Okay, we need a. We want to.

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We want to get, like, a big one.

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Oh, come on.

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We found one on ebay, dude. The Tibetan one for 600 bucks. We just need to pull.

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If you hit that, there's going to be, like, demons flying out of that thing, bro. Cuz they got.

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We'll pray over it.

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Look at all the inscriptions.

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We'll bring it to Brother Brennan. Yeah, and we. We'll have it taken care of.

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Brother Brennan.

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And he's in India right now, which is so cool.

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So my cousin, he is a. Basically a monk in Catholicism.

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Okay.

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Respect the Catholic Church, and they're called the brotherhood. But he's in India right now doing a little mission work. He's at Mother Teresa's. You know, I was stomping grounds.

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I was just gonna say, I just discovered that the majority of her missionary work was India. In India. I didn't. I didn't know. That's, like, on the flight here.

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Yeah, I just found that out from him.

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Yeah, it's pretty cool.

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India has a very deep Catholic population, which I also did not know. Okay, you guys familiar with this guy? No. You had him on him. What am I talking about? La Marzulli. Marzulli.

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Oh, yeah.

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Never heard of him.

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Yeah, you just had him on. I'm sorry, I forgot. Yeah, he's. He's supposed to come on mine.

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Really?

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Oh, he's fun, dude. He's so fun.

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We have some stories for you after the pod.

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Okay. Sweet.

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Yeah, he's our. He's our oldest guest that we've ever had. The guy will rant and rave forever. He's great. He's got amazing stories.

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He's so fun, too. Like, while we're singing, he, like, pulled out his phone. He's like, this is great.

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I don't know that anyone's enjoyed a song more than he did.

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Oh, it's great. Yeah, he's awesome.

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If I join in on the song,

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please just roll with it, please. I'll keep going.

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All right.

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Yeah, please.

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I screwed up your camera, so I'm going to change that, all right?

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Yeah, quit screwing up, Andrew.

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Didn't you guys have a switcher here last time? Andrew, did you decide to go back?

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That was. That was our live.

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That was alive. Okay.

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Last time you were here, we were alive.

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Got it, got it, got it, got it.

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Switching

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switch pod.

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I do. I run autopod, and there's another.

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That.

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We have that. Well, there's another one that does it, too, but we run that. Yeah, it's like, if autopod goes down, we got another one.

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That's what he's. Chris is working on. I just did a Pastor Joby Martin's pod earlier today, and so he's. We're running it that way, too. Yeah.

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Yeah. Well, speaking of songs, Rusan, welcome. Ruslan,

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back in the house.

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I don't got any sound effects on my headphones. I don't like it.

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Yeah, sorry.

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Do you want a song?

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I want a song.

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All right, well, what.

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What.

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What was genre?

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Any genre.

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You want hip hop? Hip hop, hip hop. I want a rap song right now.

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We can do it.

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Bing bong, boom. Bing bong, boom.

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What's your favorite genre of rap?

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Boom bap.

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90s, early 90s, late 80s. Boom bap is the best.

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That's the best, bro.

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Okay.

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Whoa, whoa. Echo.

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Is he just on echo?

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Interesting.

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You guys do this every time? I only put it on my guitar, and then you guys go back and

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forth so when it comes out, people are like, there's no echo on your watch.

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Oh, dang, Daz. Never mind. Echo. You hear it, right?

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You got. You guys did a bit once, and I literally had to put it on post because it went for so long, I had to add reverbs.

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All right, Hip hop, boom bap. Here we go. Off the top of the dome, In the ancient days, before podcasts, before algorithms, before reaction channels, there roamed a warrior, a beast among men, a name whispered only in fear.

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Ruslan.

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Ruslan K.D. and many do not know what the initials K.D. truly stand for.

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What,

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for some, it claims it means kneeling dinosaur. Others believe knitting Daddy. There are even those foolish enough to say kangaroo dictator.

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Kangaroo dictators.

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But no, KD has only stood for one thing. Ruusan, the killer of Dragon.

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He walked through the mountains alone in the rain, as fierce as a tiger, but quiet as a mouse. He fought off a demon disguised as a monk, then baptized him with a spinning round house.

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The villagers trembled whenever he'd pass the Horses would bow and the kings would all scream. He once killed a serpent with nothing but a prayer. And when he speaks, it's with laser beams.

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The kings tried to stop

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the armies all failed.

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The dragons kept on coming, but Ruslan prevails.

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Ruslan, killer of dragons, slayer of shadows, stealer of flags.

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Ruslan.

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He feared no evil. He once punched a wizard for speaking heresy. Then on the seventh day, the dragons looked down from the heavens and they wept, for they knew.

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Ruslan.

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Katie was fastly approaching. Ruslan, Slayer of shadow, destroyer of darkness, the knight of the skies. Ruslan. The last of the heroes, the first of the fury. The man who never dies. The man who never dies.

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That was amazing.

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Classic boom bap, hip hop.

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That was classic hip hop.

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Classic boom bop.

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What all the kids are listening to nowadays, Andy.

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It's a big hit. A lot of kids are talking about it.

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A bunch of gangster hip, hoppy hop

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hop, hip hopity boppity buddy.

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Bing bang bomb.

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Yes, sir.

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The man who never dies.

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Nice.

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So, yeah, if you want to use that for your podcast, it's gonna be

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my intro music for all my live events now. That was great.

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We got to do a live song next time.

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You absolutely got to do a live song next time you're at the summit. That is phenomenal.

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What did you think of our entrance at Bless God? Because we didn't tell you about it at all.

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I thought it was the. Yeah, that was so good.

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It was like two hours before, and I was like, hey, could you play this as our walk up song right now?

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No, it's great.

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It was. You guys did a great job of just making it fun. And I think that's. At a summit like that where people are, like, just receiving. It's just great to just have fun.

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Yeah.

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I loved. Me and my wife both loved the God Logic debate.

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That was fun.

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That was a blast. That was so fun. And I were. I'm glad. I. I mean, I'm bummed I missed it, like, in person, but it was so good to listen to.

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Yeah. God, logic's been on terror. He's. He's amazing. So shout out to Avery. Yeah.

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Debates are fun.

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Yeah, it was a great debate.

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Yeah.

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Maybe we should do one one day, right?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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What would you guys debate if you had to debate? Who would you debate and what would you debate?

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I don't know.

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I have it in my head right now. I have it in my head.

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No, let me know.

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I got. I got the prompt, and I know who you would debate.

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Go.

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You ready?

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Ready.

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Blurry creatures. Yeah, we'd lose our demons ain't. Or aliens demons or aliens angels, Bro, I'm just gonna. Or are. Or can aliens be anything besides demons? That's the prompt.

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Let's get into that.

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Yeah, 100.

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Let's talk about that. But first, Rusan, I need you to just zip it.

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Josh, he's our guest.

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I know.

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I didn't bring a firearm this time. Oh, oh, oh.

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It's loaded. Be careful.

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Oh, oh, oh. It's live. You can use that if you want, but I hope you don't use it, because this question. I don't know, guys. Rusan, you travel the world, you meet a bunch of people. Some good, some bad.

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Yeah.

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Those who are loving, those who are hateful. And this question was sent in just for you.

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Okay. I like it. This from someone from Patreon.

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Just someone. Someone.

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Okay. One of our billions of viewers.

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Yeah, one of the hundreds of billions of users.

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Okay.

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Viewers.

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Users.

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Rusan, today's question, sent in by a viewer. Are Canadians nice?

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Yes. Okay. Yes. They. Well, okay. Well, it depends.

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He's trying to backtrack now.

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You can talk all you want. You can talk all you want. I don't know if you watch the news, Rusan.

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I do occasionally.

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Oh, so now he does. No deniability.

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I don't know if you've seen recently but.

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Or.

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Fearless leader Donald J. Trump. Trump. He has officially renamed ICE into nice. I don't know why this is funny. The National Immigration and Customs Enforcement. Yeah.

[A]

And now. He has now thrown a blanket statement over every single Canadian.

[B]

Every single Canadian.

[A]

Billions of Canadians that are out there, you're now saying they're a part of nice.

[D]

Yeah. What are they gonna do?

[B]

I don't know.

[C]

I don't know.

[B]

I'm scared.

[A]

Yeah, I think. I think it's.

[B]

I don't think they are.

[A]

I think it's completely irresponsible for him to say that.

[B]

Yeah, that's a very broad statement because

[A]

we've always spoken kindly of our Canadian viewers.

[B]

Always.

[A]

Every single time.

[B]

Every single time.

[A]

We've never said anything negative unless they're friends. Come on.

[B]

Anyways, Ruslan, how could you?

[D]

Are you guys afraid that they're going to deport you?

[B]

Of course we have families, Rusan.

[D]

That would be bad.

[A]

Yeah, but apparently you don't care.

[D]

I don't know if this is an appropriate joke, but you don't care.

[B]

This podcast is already probably demonetized, and it's okay.

[A]

You want our families to grow up without fathers. That's what you're Saying that's what he said. That's what you're saying.

[B]

Well, I guess you guys heard here first. Shame fathers out there. Shame he doesn't want you to be a part of your kids lives.

[A]

We know your name.

[B]

Welcome to the show.

[D]

Welcome to the show. Did I say ninja?

[E]

I meant butterfly.

[D]

The butterfly in Snowdan One of God's

[E]

as empty your mind.

[A]

You were martial arts ninja.

[D]

Welcome to the show.

[A]

There it is.

[D]

Indeed. Oh man.

[B]

Aliens and demons.

[D]

Aliens and demons.

[B]

I love this.

[C]

I love this combo.

[B]

So recently you've been posting a bunch of videos about this pastoral meeting with this intelligence group that we later find out is not technically involved in the government. They're a privatized intelligence group. What that means we don't know.

[A]

It's whatever. It's whatever they decide.

[B]

Yeah, I just want to hear your thoughts on that because we talked like a week ago about it. We were all a little hot and heavy with it of just like we were kind of going down the conspiracy route because we were coming at it with the lens of that it was from intelligence. And it's like, well, what does that mean?

[C]

I mean it blew up. That's what, that's what everything was saying,

[A]

but that's what was being claimed, right?

[B]

Yeah, I mean they, they just said it's like intelligence.

[A]

Yeah. So like what are we supposed to pull from that?

[D]

Yeah, well, they said government.

[B]

Oh, they did? Oh that one guy did.

[D]

So yeah, the, the.

[A]

Yeah, he said someone high up in the government.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

Respectable in the government. It's like first of all, you won't trust a politician.

[D]

Yep.

[A]

But either way, it's like that, that's what was said. So that's what we were going on.

[D]

Yeah. So the guy, Perry Stone, Pastor Perry Stone, comes out, makes this statement and they had been talking about this for a while because this meeting happened back in February around NRB in Nashville.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

So they've been talking about this for a while and this is a part of their own end times views that what's going to get disclosed is there's going to be a mass deception of people because it's going to get disclosed is that we really came from aliens. And that's. Which you thought you knew about Jesus, he was an alien, which thought you knew about the Bible. That was all from aliens. So the theory was that's what was going to come out. This is back in February. Then Perry Stone, for whatever reason decided to talk about this on his stream. And he was the one that said government. He was the one that Said intelligence. He was the one that said reptilian people. He wasn't there.

[B]

That was the guy with the UFOs behind him.

[D]

Yes, dude.

[C]

That guy wasn't at the thing.

[D]

He was not at the thing.

[A]

That's the dangerous secondhand news.

[D]

Secondhand news.

[A]

No way.

[D]

So then another guy named Pastor Larry ends up coming out and all these guys co sign Perry Stone, particularly Alan Didio, who I know, and they all end up and basically saying, absolutely, this happened. I was at this thing. This is exactly what happened. I'm paraphrasing, but more or less affirming what he said. Another guy named Larry comes out and doesn't just say, it was just this. He said, a standing senator from, I think Minnesota called in and said, they're going to deceive the people. They're going to. Well, this senator never responded and was like, I never said any of this. And then Pastor Larry then had to apologize and say, sorry, guys, this is my opinion. This wasn't really said. And then. Then they started backtracking. Everyone started backtracking and saying, oh, it wasn't really the government. It was. Now, from. From one standpoint, I think these guys meant well. I think they understand that there could be something that's. This goes at some point. They mean well. But I think what happened was they were almost being very good YouTubers. Yeah.

[B]

Like.

[D]

Like sensationalizing and embellishing where if you're a pastor, like, that's you. You go. You operate by different ethos. Like, you can't.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

You can't do clickbait.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Sensational content doesn't come first.

[B]

I will say our buddy Tony Merkel, who's been on the pod. I. I talked to him after, and he was part of those meetings as well. At least one of them. I don't know if it was both of them, but he was pretty mad about it, like, hitting the news like that. And, like, because people were coming after him and just being like, bro, why didn't you talk about this? Are you hiring this from us? He's like, it wasn't just. It wasn't important to talk about. Like, it was just like a meeting with pastors. We met in an Airbnb.

[D]

Well, props to him because he came out and was the one. I was like, I called the meeting.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

And there wasn't nobody there from the government. That these were private citizens who are. It sounded like he called together a meeting of Christian UFO enthusiasts.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Who have their own theories and files and whatever. And it was. They just Put a little sauce on it and embellished it. And then you got Joe Rogan now laughing about it, making fun of the pastors, like, this is a complete train wreck.

[B]

Yeah. Does not look good.

[C]

I want to know if there's like, an angle that was played as the story broke. I can't remember the account my wife follows, but I know the person who runs it has been to, like, White House pressers. And I remember that they were talking about it ambiguously, like, intel's coming in. Like, I'm trying to put some stuff together. So it was like they were already like, working up the story before they had a story. And I just think that's interesting that someone who's like, actually been invited into the inner circle of what we would call potentially a propaganda machine. It's like, why are they. What are they leveraging by, like, building the story up? You know what I mean? Because they would for sure know what went on. You know what I mean? Like, there's like, there's some weird angle to, like, other people using it.

[D]

The theory. One of the theories I saw floating around was that, oh, this is distraction. Yeah. Because, oh, what about the Epstein files? What about the war in Iran? What about all these other, like, I didn't know that they were voting on the war of Iran this week. Right.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

All these other things are happening and for a moment, everyone's talking about aliens and the government calling a meeting with pastors, which just wasn't true.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

So.

[C]

So even if the top didn't plan it, they're like, hey, that take. It works. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everybody buzz about it.

[B]

Just get.

[C]

Get it going.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, you. You did the video with like a couple of the videos and stuff of the disclosure. Bunch of just nothing big.

[D]

Nothing burger, bro.

[B]

It's like, just. I mean, it was nothing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And like, I don't know if you saw this, that, that star shaped.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

People like analyzing, like, that's a flare. It's a video of a flare.

[D]

That was the most interesting thing in the freaking.

[B]

I know. And like, if you watch this video and you can pull it up on here, there's a. There's a. That you can clearly see. The pair is a parachute with a flare on it.

[D]

Oh my gosh.

[B]

And it's.

[C]

You can see like the smoke trail or whatever.

[B]

But why would they release even The White House TikTok, the official TikTok released that video.

[C]

No, I didn't.

[B]

It's like, well, why are they. Because they know that's A flare.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

The guys are releasing the video. They're like, that's clearly a flare.

[C]

Every military person who's ever watched footage is going like, why, why are we talking about that? So it's not just like a few,

[A]

but that's the minority. Like there's so many. Like the minority of people are calling that a, you know, calling that bluff. The majority are saying, wow, that's crazy. That's insane. That's like, that's something that we really don't know what, like, because the majority of people aren't thinking on the level of like, oh, the government is completely untrustworthy all the time, no matter what. Like, we're kind of going with it or they're not even consumed by it. Yeah, they're not even seeing it.

[D]

I think, I think the, the part that hurts these pastors credibility as well as by proxy the church is, is what was promised was going to be earth shattering.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

And it was gonna, we're gonna call. And it was, it was again, I think just so much hyperbole. I. Oh. Kind of joke around. You guys have probably heard this, like the idea of pastor math, you know, where pastors go in a room and there's 400 people and they say there's 800 people. Right. And so it's like this is that same kind of thing where we're like, we're using Pastor Mouth to describe serious stuff and then there's people that are being affected by this. And the disclosure comes the same week this is all going viral. And nothing that you guys said was in the disclosure was in the disclosure. So what you were basically saying was at some point maybe there could be something that comes and that will explain or they'll try to use this to explain away the Bible and Jesus and Christianity. Yeah.

[A]

I mean, we saw the same thing back in February when all the other documents were released and there was no convictions, no ramifications whatsoever that came from it.

[D]

Yep.

[A]

And so it's like it's the same thing over and over again. It's like, so were we just going to keep like falling for this?

[C]

At what point are we fools for like continuing to listen?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I'm not saying there's no action in that question, but I mean, it's just like if everything we're being fed leads us to nothing, it's like, why are we wasting our time with it?

[B]

Well, that's how I feel.

[A]

I really lose the anticipation of it.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

This UFO disclosure thing, I don't think will ever. They'll Never release what they actually know. Because I think it's way beyond even the government's understanding because it's all privatized now. It's these, like, Lockheed Martin, just like all these industries scattered that have this information, and it's like they'll never release that. And even, like the, the crash retrieval program and stuff, they're not going to release that. And it just. It begs the question. It's like, is it something just more sinister? You know, and I. I think it

[A]

is totally more sinister, more spiritual on a deeper level than like, just what we can physically feel and touch and see. Yeah, like it's. It's something so much deeper. And like, that's the point. Like, they, they release that, we lose control.

[D]

So from your guys's research, if you're just shooting this straight with me, from the amount of time you guys have spent looking at this, how much weight is there? That there were actual crafts that crashed and they're. And they actually have these crafts somewhere or there's like substantial evidence for it. Not the Barack Obama. There's aliens. But I didn't really mean. I just mean there, you know, how much, how much weight do you guys think is riding on that? They actually have crafts or there's evidence of scraps and they could release it if they really wanted to.

[B]

I definitely think they. There's a craft.

[D]

I think there's a craft.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

I think it's less than what they're putting out.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Even though they're putting out little. I still think it's less than that because I think that's easy to, you know, something they created, to, you know, blame on something else. Because I think there's less physical stuff of that. That realm. And I think it's more of. Given technology, like knowledge of that technology that we replicate. Okay, but that's my physician.

[D]

But not physical crafts that they have stored away somewhere.

[B]

No, I think they have that.

[D]

Do you think they have that?

[B]

I think so. I think so, yeah. Just, I mean, because, like, I kind of. I've gone back and forth. Like the Babazar story.

[D]

Yes. Was it Bob Lazar that said. Sorry to cut you off? Was it Bubbles are. That said they were using Russian little people and putting them in these.

[B]

Mike Heiser.

[D]

That was. That was Heiser.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[D]

Okay. Okay, okay. Sorry, I'm getting confused.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

And I remember he was saying that they were like Russian little people. I was gonna say the word. I'm not supposed to say. And they were putting them in these little crafts and then they when they were.

[B]

Well, he, he had the theory that it was children.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

That were in this craft.

[D]

I thought it was the little people. Dwarfs.

[B]

Yeah. I, I read Easy. Yeah. I thought he said children, but it could have been little people.

[A]

Well, that, that was, that was the thing, like outside of Era 51. Right. When they ordered coffins to come in.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Like they ordered coffins for child, Child, child sized coffins for the air. The crash that happened outside Area 51. And it's like, oh, that's interesting. Like, yeah, like, oh, yeah. New Roswell.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And so it, it does add some little conflict. But we also have that story from Russia where everyone was turned into stone and it was little people.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, that came out of this craft. And so, I don't know. It's weird, man.

[C]

They're better.

[D]

Bob Lazar too. Sorry.

[C]

No, you're good. Go.

[B]

Well, yeah, well, just the Bob Lazar stuff. Just listening to him. Jesse Michaels, American Alchemy. He did like a 3 1/2 hour interview with him. I watched his S4 thing and I mean, it truly, it really seems legit.

[D]

He seems to be very compelling.

[B]

Like, I mean, because it's like just with. He had nothing to really gain from the story except like maybe fame, but it was really kind of threat from the government, like through the fame. But the most compelling thing was in his S4 and I talked about this on previous podcasts, but in his S4 movie that he did, he described the UFO that he was working on with the, the test flights that they do every Wednesday or something. And he described it and then Logan Paul comes out with the video that he stole from someone at Area 51. And it matched up exactly. It's like, well, maybe this is just a great deception propaganda piece. But I mean, it was dead on. And like, I'm pretty convinced that he was working on something futuristic, alien.

[C]

My skeptic brain starts to ask questions and they're way more researched. Like, I'm honestly not at all. But like, I think about like, if there was a craft, like, let's just say China lost something here and it's like, we don't want it getting out that we have acquired an enemy or, you know, like, that'd be a big deal if we took something from somebody else and like buried the story. Like, you can't have your crap back, you know, or the American people find out that another nation's flying like this tech. We have no idea they were flying craft intel, you know, harvesting craft over us. Or even if they Were, like, making contact. I mean, that's like. That's a big deal. Nation to nation. And so, like, my brain starts to think, well, like, you pull people in, it's like, hey, we got this craft. We have no idea what it is or where it's from. And, like, could it be, like, a nation like China, who was just, like, way ahead in AI and develop something? And then the guys working on it are like, dude, we've never even seen this, like, this element that made the thing. And they start coming up just as bros, like, like, have you seen this? Like, I don't know where this is from. Some dude said it's from space. And next thing you know, they're reporting that they're working on a spacecraft. Again, I'm unresearched, but my brain starts to think through.

[A]

No, that makes sense.

[C]

Like, what other ways could they. They actually have craft but not have an explanation for where on earth did it come from? Because the government's so good at compartment. Like, you might be working on a project, and you have no idea where the specific thing you're working on is going. I don't know. That's where my brain goes.

[D]

Here's the theory. Here's the guys remember the drone situation was.

[B]

Oh, yeah. New Jersey.

[D]

Right. Yeah. Right. And then they come to find out that these were private contractors testing stuff.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

For whatever reason, they didn't want to tell people. And so everyone's freaking out because there's all these drones flying around. They're like, what are these? What if the technology is actually in. I don't know if this even works. Okay, so, but, like, is enclosed drones. So. Because drones could then move. Yeah, Right. Then it's not like an airplane. They can move. And then these crafts that they're finding are actually enclosed drones with little people inside of them.

[B]

It's possible, but a lot of these videos and accounts, it's like, defies physics.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, like, they're just going too

[D]

fast in a drone going, like 500

[B]

miles an hour and entering the water with no splash and continuing the same speed. Which is, like, impossible.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

You know?

[A]

Yeah. As far as we know.

[B]

As far as we know.

[A]

That's the crazy thing is there. There is technology that was probably developed 30 years ago that would blow our minds today that they've kept under, you know, cover. And so it's. It's so strange, man. It's such a wild thing, and we're never gonna really know.

[B]

Yeah, right.

[A]

Like, it's. It's. It's Gonna always be hidden from us.

[C]

I think, I think Bart's theory, Bart Sobral, we had him on. He's a guy who got punched by Buzz Aldrin. Buzz Aldrin. But like he was talking about the Malaysian flight that disappeared and he brought it to our attention that there were 20 people heading to China. But we're at the forefront in their field working on cloaking. And so his whole.

[B]

Holographics. Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Was it? I thought, I thought, I thought he said holographics and whatever. Anyway, some sort of like imaging sort of thing. And then you look at all the scientists disappearing and they're like anti gravity stuff and it's like, so if you kind of combine and that's over quite a period of time.

[B]

So if you kind of science and illusion.

[C]

Yeah. But then like imagine, imagine just like the racing drones if you went back to when we were in high school and one of those ones we'd be like, dude, there is a thing over the football field right now.

[A]

So like even jet packs now, like, like jet packs, 30 years ago, 20 years ago, that would have blew our mind. But now they're doing it as a sport, I think. So it's like that's, I mean that's bonkers.

[C]

The thing that makes it so hard for me to believe is Gulf Breeze, Florida is, was one of the leading areas of UFO sightings in the usa. But if you look at a map of military owned land, it is all of it. And so it's like the number one place where they're seeing craft and it's like, well, yeah, that's where like all of the laboratories and research and tech and development. Like I personally know two of the dudes who developed the bunker buster. They went to my church.

[D]

Wow.

[C]

And so it's like that community, of course around it you're going to like get sightings of that sort of tech. And everyone called it alien.

[A]

Now if they have land on America, you know, in North America that they're testing stuff, you gotta think like, you know, obviously people are gonna see it. There's a chance that, you know, civilians are gonna be watching this stuff, our tests and stuff. Do we own any other like islands or anything that we know of Venezuela, because obviously newly acquired.

[D]

Y' all ever seen that 69 meme with Donald Trump on his face? No, you haven't seen it. Maybe you guys can put it here and that. You gotta edit it. But he goes, I just took that. Ish. I took it and it's. But it's Trump in AI is so funny.

[A]

Anyway, sorry, but no, that's like. That's something that my mind goes to, like, because, I mean, you could easily just obviously go out in the ocean and test your stuff. But, I mean, how are you going to observe it? Whatever. I wonder, like, what properties we own outside North America.

[B]

Well, it's weird when you look at a map, too, of, like, reported UFO sightings and America is just lit up, and then, like, then you have a little bit in, like, the uk, a little bit in Germany, a little bit in Russia, a little bit in, like, Argentina.

[D]

My parents claim to have seen a ufo.

[B]

Have you ever.

[D]

I. I can't not. Not close up. They claim to see. Have seen one up close. No way. Yeah, they just. They. I think my mom and my dad and. And this is my memory of them telling me the story were out one night, and they saw what they claim was a craft that got close enough to them and then. And. And it got there and then it flew off.

[B]

This is.

[D]

This is before I was born.

[B]

This is in Azerbaijan.

[D]

Yeah. In Baku. Yeah.

[B]

Whoa.

[D]

Yeah. So they. They've always, you know. So my mom, like, before she became a Christian was always like, it's the A.L.I.E. created us. She's been a long time UFO. I remember that. That was her whole thing. She's like. She didn't believe in God because she thought it was alien. She recently became a Christian, like, four years ago.

[A]

What does she believe it is now?

[D]

We haven't had a conversation about it. I got to talk to her about it. Let's see if I can get her on the phone.

[A]

That would be amazing.

[D]

If I can get my mom. You guys will love my mom.

[B]

So your mom and dad saw it?

[D]

That's what they claim. Let's see.

[A]

This is. This is Jane and my mom.

[D]

Or let's see. Let's see if she picks up. I don't know if she's going to pick up. Yeah. If I imagine this. We got to clip this whole segment. Aliens. What did you see, Mom?

[E]

I saw a huge green cloud. And that cloud was kind. Follow us. We stopped the cloud stop. We're moving. The cloud moving. And then it became small. Small. And it was gone.

[D]

And. And when was this?

[E]

It was. I don't know. Before we get married.

[D]

Okay. And you guys were together?

[E]

Yeah, it was. He was born 84. We get married 83. So it was kind of like 82. Something like 1982.

[A]

And it was completely unnatural. Nothing that could have ever happened.

[E]

We were going to visit our friends and was It.

[D]

Was it natural? Is there any way to naturally explain it? Like any other way besides a ufo?

[E]

No, it was just a huge cloud. Green color. Because usually it was dark, you know, like. Usually a dark time. Even if it's cloud, it's white. But it was green. Green color, huh?

[D]

Okay.

[E]

It was like a light, you know.

[C]

Wow.

[E]

Like round cloud color. Green. And it was following us. And then those follow us. Maybe 30 minutes.

[B]

Was it just empty?

[D]

It Was it just you and. And Papa?

[E]

Yeah. No, it was me and him and we were going to visit his friend Gordian in Baku.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

How did it make her feel?

[D]

How did it make you feel?

[E]

No, we just feel like something follow us, you know, like something like that.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Wow.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

Like some. Something watching us. Something. And the cloud was following. Like we moving. They moving. We stop. They stop. I mean the cloud stop. The light, whatever.

[A]

What does she think it is now?

[D]

At the Chicheska? What do you think it is now?

[E]

Well, I always think about aliens. That they exist, they're somewhere and they. They watching us. Like the whole world.

[D]

Uh huh.

[A]

Okay.

[E]

That's my opinion. So.

[D]

Okay. All right. We'll talk about it more when I get back. Okay.

[A]

Love you, mom.

[B]

Love you, mom. Bye.

[D]

I love you.

[A]

She seemed great.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

That's awesome. That's a crazy story.

[C]

Did you see what I just said?

[D]

What'd you see?

[C]

Dude, I just. I was like. 1982, green cloud UFO bro. There's a freaking sighting.

[D]

Really?

[C]

Like a flight with a radar blip. Like a ton of people saw it. It's a thing.

[B]

Go ahead and read it.

[C]

Okay, this is. I'm to. I haven't had time to like, proof all of this. This is. Where am I? I'm on the New York Times. A green cloud adds to Soviet UFO lore. Witnesses say it first appeared as a yellow light, then a white ray, then it became a green cloud that turned into something resembling a plane. It was the latest example of a phenomenon that has caught Russians imagination. Sightings and identified and unidentified flying objects. The witnesses were the passengers and crew of Aeroflight 8352 on a night flight from Rostov to Tallinn. And ground controllers who had seen unexplained blips on a radar screen. And their audience was a member of the Academy of Sciences who solemnly declared that the sighting must have been what we call a ufo.

[D]

That's spooky. I just remembered that in real time. And you know, she. That's why I respecting my call also.

[B]

That was crazy impressive that.

[C]

What.

[D]

What Russian is My first language.

[B]

That's insane.

[A]

I love it. That was the first time Russia's ever been spoken on the podcast.

[C]

Okay, I'm gonna caption something other than

[A]

what was being said. We'll make up our own catches.

[B]

Hey, mom, what's your snickerdoodle recipe?

[C]

I'm on this podcast with these weird Floridian dudes.

[D]

That's a trip.

[B]

Well, this is great. There. I saw this story. I don't know where it was. I watched this story about there's a phenomenon like that in Russia. I think it was like, earlier than that, though. It was like the 50s or 60s. But there is this cloud. I think it was Y files, actually. But there's a cloud that would descend and, like, people were like, what the heck? And, like, they would, like, start shooting at it and it, like, overtake them.

[D]

Whoa.

[B]

Typically green or just like a different color cloud. And everything stopped. And so they would be looking around and everyone's just, like, basically frozen. And when they come out of it, I mean, hours had passed. So it was like some sort of, like, time dilation overtaking them.

[A]

It goes back to the bubble thing that Bob Lazar talked about.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Just like how everything would stop.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I'm just tripping out that, like, to her is like, yeah, that was a thing that happened. And then we look it up and then it's like, that's.

[D]

Yeah, that's.

[C]

That's weird because she wasn't trying to tell us that story today. She just told. It's like a family story.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Down to the year and location.

[C]

Either either super weird or he is a freaking genius at planning and buying.

[A]

That lady's a wonderful actress.

[D]

I felt bad even calling her because I didn't see her on Mother's Day. I was in la, so I texted her, like, hey, happy Mother's Day. Let me know when you want to come by and get your gift. Some pump she picked up I'm gonna

[C]

have to do a little research into, because apparently it was more than just that plane. Like, it was like.

[D]

Like a thing.

[C]

Green cloud was a thing.

[D]

What a trip.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

That's interesting. And it just instantly made me think of Exodus, you know, like the fire cloud. You know how like, like, like so how people mimic what God does.

[B]

Well, here. Here we go. Let's talk about clouds and time dilation real quick. Time manipulation. That theory that we talked about where Jesus was on the mount, the cloud surrounded him, speaking with Moses and Elijah. The theory that we talked about was that he was actually speaking to them in their time.

[D]

That's good.

[C]

Have you had that fun?

[D]

Dude, that's crazy. I've never heard of that before. That's amazing.

[B]

So, like, it wasn't like they, like, came back from Abraham's bosom or, like, whatever. It was like.

[C]

Like they were there because they have an encounter.

[B]

Because Moses, he talks about, he was on Mount Sinai when the cloud, you know, encompassed the Mount Elijah. On Mount Carmel. Right. Was it Mount Carmel that he was

[D]

on when he was on a mountain?

[A]

That was Mount Carmel was the. The sacrifice and offerings.

[B]

Okay, well, what? He was on a mountain, Herman. But no. It's weird, though, is that they claim that Mount Sinai is not the Mount Sinai that the monastery is built at. It's a different mountain that's, like, scorched at the top. But Elijah's cave is right by Mount Sinai. So it makes you wonder if it's the same time dilation cloud.

[A]

All right.

[D]

Because God is outside of time. Jesus is God.

[C]

He literally opened a portal and had that commune.

[D]

What a trip.

[C]

With the little, like, the heroes of the faith, dude.

[A]

And God's thinking, like, I have to have three meetings. Oh, dude, I have to have three meetings with three different guys.

[D]

We're just gonna knock him out at once.

[A]

Let's. Let's just all. Let's just do all together. Come on. Let's make it efficient.

[C]

It's the literal cloud of Witnesses.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

So the inverse of that or the. The opposite, this cloud, this demonic cloud, that also. There's some, like, the cloud perversion of Witnesses. We're like. We're scatterbrained right now.

[C]

Let's hope.

[B]

Let's. Let's bring it in.

[C]

I've had too much Red Bull. There's, like, someone late.

[B]

Like, if that is not necessarily, like. We would call it like, a technology.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

But like a spiritual power. Because that's. I mean, a lot of alien abductions, they talk about missing time, where they're on this craft, and then they're like, I thought I was on there for, like, maybe five minutes.

[C]

It was.

[B]

What's his face?

[A]

The Barney Hills.

[B]

That was their story, too. But the guy, that mustache, he was a logger, got taken up. He thought he was only gone for, like, maybe an hour or something, but he was gone for five days. So there's something with time.

[D]

Something. Time? Yeah. Distortion of time. What a trip. Wow.

[A]

It keeps happening.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's a common theme for people who don't even know each other's stories, so it is very interesting. That's gotta it's gotta be. Have a part of it.

[B]

And that's why I think full circle, I think blurry creatures, they. They're gonna hate me for saying this, but I really think that aliens, it's a demonic. And demonic is just a broad term I think, for entities that we don't even know about. But dark, sinister, not good.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

So the angels would work differently, right? I think they just work differently. Like they would, they would want to be. Yeah, they want to differentiate.

[B]

Especially because, like, I just, I've been like super deep into like studying church history and like the stories of these desert fathers and stuff and their interactions with like demons and the demonic. And I just read that book about St. Anthony the Great and he basically splits the difference between like angels and demons. Like, if an angel's talking to you, there's a. There's an aspect of fear because you're

[C]

just like, what the heck is going on?

[B]

But like, if there's an instant comforting of just like, do not fear. I am sent from the Lord, like, blah, blah, blah, blah, you know, that's an angel. And if it's. If they sense your fear and prey on your fear and incite more fear, clearly demonic. And so it's like you read these, about these alien abductions or watch them, listen to them, it's all fear based. Like I. You rarely hear an alien abduction. It's like, it was just so comforting and like they're so loving and like there's always a fear aspect to it and like preying on the. Your fears and.

[A]

Yeah, and that's the difference because every time that someone interacts with an angel in the Bible, most of the time, every interaction. I'm saying most because I don't know, but every time I've read about that, I can recall the first thing they say is, don't be afraid, don't be afraid. They try to nip that in the bud immediately. Yeah. So the fact that we would linger on it and it would just be a constant thing that we live in.

[C]

But then there's also the deception side of it too, where people have these encounters and they say they just feel this overwhelming like, feeling of love and warmth.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You like, look into the stories and like, I don't know that this is a good thing. Like, discernment starts to like, for sure kick up. So it's like, I don't know, it's hard. It's hard to say either way. But to the point you're making, like, are aliens demons? I think when people have encounters with stuff like we would call it alien flat out, just because that's the word we use. But then there needs to be discernment and discretion. If one of these things was to actually exist. To your point, like, where are you actually from? Like God does use messengers, you know, like I don't know what that looks like in every situation. So there's a chance like you're really gonna encounter something that to you is alien. But in the context of biblical history, you're interacting with a messenger and that doesn't necessarily have to be demonic or evil. But then you get, you know, it can get culty real fast with those encounters.

[D]

It just seems that there's more and more people that are becoming more open to not them, not 100 being demonic in that cherubim and these other types of angels. And I, I want to say, I think that's the blurry creatures position on it is like there could be the Old Testament crazy looking angels.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I could side with that a little bit too. But like, especially when it comes to. You hear more of the, when people interact with these things, there's deception and fear and how they, they even talk about themselves. A lot of the people that are abducted, abducted by aliens, it is like almost parallel to people that go through satanic ritual abuse. Like it's almost dead on. And so it's like, well, there's something there, you know, like that's not just a coincidence.

[D]

But I think, is it fair to say that it's unanimously agreed upon that they're not coming from another galaxy, that these are not beings?

[B]

I think they would say that, yeah.

[D]

Yeah. Because that, because, because I went down that rabbit hole and discovered, is it Einstein's theory of relativity or whatever, that you can't go faster than the speed of light and that the closest galaxy to us is hundreds of millions of light years away.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

So in order for them to. If it was actually physical beings coming from another galaxy, they would have to be billions of years old, have to go faster than the speed of light, would have to have an infinite amount of fuel or something.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

And just going that fast, the crafts break down because of how much space rocks there are.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

And so like when I went down that rabbit hole, I was like, oh, okay, yes, probably unlikely this is coming from another galaxy.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

So therefore they have to be interdimensional and coming from another dimension.

[B]

Yeah. But I mean then you could probably argue, well, there is something to that technology which manipulates time in some sense.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

Like they almost like exit time On Earth. So, like, which I saw this tick tock the other day and it like about gave me a panic attack talking about just time. And like time is nothing. It's like if there's a black hole, if you go towards the center of that black hole, time is basically stopped. Like there's no time in that. But the further away you are from the black hole, there's time.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

And so it's like. I mean, it's like in an interstellar.

[C]

Right.

[B]

That's like the concept. They go to this planet and every minute is like seven years or something like that. Yeah, like that's a real.

[C]

That's what.

[D]

That's a real possibility, you're saying.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

In terms of the wormholes and the black holes. Yeah.

[A]

And we have. And we have to. It's hard to separate ourselves from what we already know as far as like time, you know, because if time doesn't exist, maybe fuel in the way we think doesn't exist and physical matter doesn't exist the way we think it exists. So it's like, who knows? Like, who truly knows what it's like out there?

[C]

I start tripping on, like, does time exist if there's nothing there to perceive the passing of it?

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Like, well, if a tree falls in

[C]

the middle, I mean. Yeah. You start asking those questions though. Cause like in interstellar, like time changes, but his heart beats at the same rate. So like, what? It was not a BPM anymore.

[D]

That movie has such a sad ending.

[C]

I know it's mid.

[B]

Don't leave them.

[A]

I can't. I can't. It's a hard watch.

[B]

This reminded me. I saw this story today. I thought it was really cool, connected. I'm just connecting it to alien abductions, but like one of the earliest ones.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

700 A.D. john the Abbot was his name. It's not really an alien abduction, but it kind of. I feel like it parallels a little bit because ninjas.

[C]

We can make it that.

[B]

So John the Abbot was from Ravenna and he had a monastery there. And it burnt down and all these land grabbers were like, okay, now we're going to overtake your monastery land. And so he's like, no, I got to go get the. Just basically help from the Emperor Constantine. Constantinople. And so he went to Constantinople, he traveled and basically went to the Emperor. The Emperor's like, okay, you can save your monastery. It's your land. So he did this whole seal on a scroll thing that he was supposed to bring back to the local governor of Ravenna. And during this time it was starting to become winter, so the storm, the seas are super rough and he could not find a ship. And he had to get back to Ravenna in, in a certain time frame in order for him to make the court appearance, whatever.

[A]

Or they would just overtake it.

[B]

Or they would overtake it and. But this, the sailing to Ravenna was like over a month long journey. And he's just like, there's no ships, there's no ships. I don't know what to do, dude. And he was like, like, just sad and like crying. He's like, I don't know what to do. All of a sudden, three men walk up to him, weird story, all dressed in black, very mysterious looking. They said, john, the abbot, we see that you can't find a ship, we can help you. And he's like, okay. And he's like, we don't have a ship, but watch this. They said, grab the stick, draw a ship in the sand. And they said, but don't miss a detail. Draw the oars, the sails, the stern, everything. And so he draws it out and they say, lay in the middle of your drawing. And they said, what's about to happen? You'll hear noises, you'll hear storms, you'll hear people screaming. Don't make a noise. Don't let anyone know that you're there. And whatever you do, don't make the sign of the cross. And he did it. And instantly when he laid down, darkness overtook him. Storm, sailor, screaming. And then boom. He woke up on the roof of his monastery. And he's like, what just happened? And so he's calling down to his monks, hey, get me down from here. And they're like, surely this is a demon up on the roof. He was supposed to be in Constantinople, and so he had to list them all by name. And they're like, all right, here's a ladder. He goes down, he brings the scroll to the governor. He opens it and the governor goes, this is forgery. This was dated to yesterday. There's no way you can sail from Constantinople to here in one day. And so he instantly went to, I think it was the patriarch or the bishop or whatever in Ravenna, and basically was like, I, basically, I made a deal with demons to get here. And so he repented, did his penance, whatever, and they said that he lived the rest of his life in peace. But I'm like, that sounds like an alien thing. Yeah, very like a transportation time. Disorientation, you know, like. Yeah, but the, the whole. Don't make the sign of the cross.

[D]

I'm just like, yeah, don't make the sign of cross a spooky. A spooky makes me want to.

[A]

But that. But also. But like, why would they help him continue the monastery then?

[B]

That's. That's a great question.

[A]

Like, that's the, like, do they know something that we don't maybe to have

[B]

to have something on him.

[A]

Yeah. Like, because he instantly was denied because of it. They knew, like, he maybe didn't think that he would instantly be denied for, you know, forgery or whatever. So that maybe was able, like, to shut him down for sure.

[B]

Just maybe just like a little. You can do this and get this.

[A]

That's very. That. That's so weird.

[B]

Isn't that weird?

[A]

It's scary, man.

[C]

Spooky.

[D]

That's spooky. I think about how many times in general we make little compromises like that and don't think about it. Right. And then have to repent of stuff without a.

[A]

Without a physical. Like, you know, three people in black suits.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, walking in front of us

[D]

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[B]

Speaking of people in black suits, I have a crazy story of the origin of the Grim Reaper right after the sun.

[A]

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[D]

Anyway, the same guys that are doing Bryce Crawford's energy drink are going to do one for me, but I'm trying to do like an actual yerba based, like real Yoruba based energy drink. Not like a super Christian energy drink. Super Christian? No, mine isn't. Mine's gonna be praise energy.

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No. Pentecostal punch.

[D]

Pentecostal punch is wild.

[C]

Do you want to speak in tongues?

[B]

Take a sip.

[A]

That would be such a funny 90s commercial.

[C]

Pentecostal punch. Just a portal opens.

[D]

Humming in a Honda, living in a Yamaha.

[B]

Yeah, about a Honda, but about Ikea.

[A]

I wish that could have been a video that we just like. Hey, if you're. If you're scared that you don't know how to speak in tongues, but you're gonna be judged by your congregation, here's some phrase you can memorize.

[D]

That's good.

[B]

Oh, man.

[D]

Oh, that was good. That was a nice little break.

[A]

What an ad.

[B]

What an ad.

[A]

Golly, you remember that.

[D]

I'm gonna copy your guys's ads just

[A]

so you guys know, you can try.

[C]

We will sue.

[B]

Oh, my goodness. I feel like a polar bear drinking this.

[A]

Yeah, now that Lily's. We've fired Lily from the pod. This is kind of a nice villain, dude.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Why'd you guys fire Lily?

[C]

Vibes are great.

[A]

Just, I mean, it's for obvious reasons. Everyone comment. Your favorite reason why we fired Lily.

[D]

Oh, my gosh. Is she really not coming back?

[B]

No, no, she is.

[C]

Oh, okay.

[D]

She wasn't here last time I was here. She hasn't been here anytime I've been here.

[B]

No, she gets like. We're like, hey, we're bringing On a guest. She's like, peace.

[D]

Oh, yeah. She's like nervous or.

[A]

No, she just, she likes a break.

[B]

She likes a break.

[A]

She also has personal problems with you,

[D]

but her thing was like 10 other people right now.

[A]

Get in line.

[B]

She's like, I, I. She's a stay at home mom, so she's with the kids all day and just does all the mom stuff. And she's like, my only break is doing your podcast. I want like a real break.

[A]

And it's just the only break she gets is full of anxiety. Take a break. Here's a bunch of things you have to worry about.

[C]

And she shows up and we just gaslight her from the room.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

This one we loved. It's terrible.

[D]

Hilarious.

[B]

Speaking of gaslighting.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Do you hear about the. Your home state that mayor.

[D]

Yes. She's working with China.

[B]

China.

[A]

I haven't heard anything about this, bro.

[D]

Yes, I saw it. I read allsides.com article on it. Just giving me the basic stuff and I was like, this is crazy, dog.

[B]

Yeah. So Aline Wang. Okay, what's her name already?

[A]

Maybe Red Flag.

[B]

So she was the mayor of Arcadia.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

Never heard of it. I've never heard of it.

[C]

Oh, really?

[D]

Yeah, I've never heard.

[B]

So it's that small?

[D]

It's a small town.

[B]

Okay. Well, she was just arrested for basically working with the Chinese government for pushing Chinese propaganda, like targeting Chinese citizens in the United States for pushing pro Beijing propaganda.

[A]

And that's illegal, apparently. Okay.

[C]

It happened. So she's one of five. The whatever council or town council or whatever, they share the responsibility and at times, title, I believe, of mayor.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And she did all of that stuff before, but when she got sworn in and like, you know, to protect the constitution of the United, she didn't disclose any of her previous alliances or workings in the community that she had been. So, like, who knows how true it is? But like, no, that was before. Is the. Like, whatever. She pled guilty to doing that, but not just. And not disclosing that she had done it.

[A]

Yeah. So before it was kind of frowned upon. But then. But when she's officially paid by the federal and sworn in by the federal government and now being paid also by another federal government of a foreign agency.

[C]

Was she. I don't know. Was she.

[A]

I mean, currently being paid.

[B]

I don't know. But the, like, you'd be like, okay, well, what's the big deal with that?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Authorities say that she communicated with Chinese officials through encrypted apps and coordinated messaging efforts.

[A]

But who hasn't done that, John.

[B]

That's what I'm saying.

[A]

I mean, we've all been there.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Golly, man.

[C]

Do you see the thing about her fiance, too?

[B]

No.

[C]

He was. He was, I believe, currently incarcerated for some sort of nefarious something or other as well. So, like, the fact that she was holding office with, like, the ties that she had, like, the whole thing's like. Do you guys not vet people at all before allowing them to take positions?

[A]

How did she get caught?

[C]

I don't know, actually.

[A]

That's interesting.

[C]

I only correct you guys. I don't offer new information, so, like, don't ask me.

[B]

Sounds a lot like you're protecting her.

[A]

Interesting, interesting, interesting.

[D]

Are you Chinese propagandist?

[C]

Where's that gong?

[A]

He did come into the company at the perfect time.

[D]

I wonder how much the walls fall again.

[B]

Gt

[D]

Please. Please don't do an Asian accent. Please don't do an Asian accent.

[A]

Ruslan, you do it now. Ruslan just did an Asian accent.

[C]

AI is going to be. AI's that good? We should take, like, a clip of his voice and. Oh, easily swap it in. Yeah.

[D]

I wonder if they're recruiting a random mayor and city council people in Arcadia, which is a city in my state that I've never heard of.

[A]

How.

[D]

What else are they doing and who else are they?

[A]

But was she even recruited or. It. Was it. Was it a plant? Like, that's the interesting thing. Like, was this the long game, you know? And in the great big city of

[B]

Arcadia, that's like the old Russian.

[D]

I even look up where that is on the map, man.

[B]

It says right outside of la.

[A]

It's inside of Chuck E. Cheese and Dave and Busters.

[D]

That has to play at the Arcadia all the time. All city, man. Arcadia. That. I mean, I may. I may have, like, seen the sign before.

[A]

I feel like I've heard of it. Right?

[C]

It's in. There's an Arcadia in Florida.

[B]

You've heard of arcades?

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

This is, like, a tiny town, man, because it's like, Whittier Arcadia. Like, I've.

[A]

But that's what they would least suspect, right?

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

That's crazy.

[B]

What is.

[D]

What was the end game? What was. What were they trying to get her to do? Just propagate Chinese nonsense.

[C]

What I saw is that she was working previously with, like, Chinese immigrants and. And she was politically involved in, like, helping them understand how to vote and stuff like that. Like, that was her political. And this isn't, you know, gospel. This is me trying to remember the thing that I Read really quick to talk about it. Yeah, but like I believe that was. She had like been working with immigrants, gathering people together and basically had become the, this is how you do this. These are the ways that we want to operate here. Allegedly all before her position.

[D]

And, and, and she's in jail right now or she just arrested.

[B]

So I guess she pled guilty for acting as an unregistered agent of the Chinese government because that was the thing

[C]

she didn't disclose upon taking the position that she had previously done that.

[D]

Yeah, yikes.

[C]

So all I can figure is if she's that plugged in and she's like accepting this accusation, like she's got to know some little loophole to how she was where she knows she's going to be fine.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Sus RuPaul.

[D]

Yeah. Yeah. My brain just goes, who else is looped in on this in government? What other media voices are in on this? Who else is sewing, sewing Discord? And 100%, you know, they're too smart.

[A]

Yeah, like, like this isn't we, we didn't just catch the one. We're like, we got them. Like it's. If it's happening there, it's happening everywhere.

[C]

It's weird timing that the story broke. I'm just now thinking as we go

[B]

to Trump is in China.

[C]

Trump is in China.

[B]

Or by the time this comes out, he's not in China, but he was in China.

[C]

But it's interesting, the story's kind of breaking or happening at the same time.

[A]

Did you see the video of Elon in China? No, no, he was just like, they were like doing the big old like celebration in the front steps. He was just walking around. He's just, just like a little kid.

[B]

Yeah, that whole thing's very interesting.

[C]

Little spooky.

[A]

Yeah, it's all very strange.

[D]

I have all sorts of theories, man. I think Qatari Carlson is definitely in it with some of the Middle Eastern funders and handlers. You know, all of a sudden he's flip flopped on every position he's ever held.

[B]

It's interesting.

[D]

Very sympathetic to Islam and it means it's real law. It's not that bad. What is? You know, it's just Islam just means submission. Who is paying you, bro? Like, what is going on?

[A]

He's had the weirdest flip dude on everything.

[D]

On the layman issue, he is completely 180. He had a guy on that I know personally full on pushing socialism on there. Like full on. Like, yeah, like socialism is. And he's like, yeah, better than I'M like, what are you doing, bro?

[B]

Personally, I would actually love to have Tucker on this. This podcast. I think he's probably working for Russia.

[D]

Yeah, I think so. It would surprise me.

[B]

I don't know.

[C]

I don't trust a man that holsters his nicotine.

[A]

He has got a little buckle for his. But also he. He. Is it the FBI or CIA his dad worked for? He also applied, got denied, lived in

[B]

Russia for a time, was able to

[A]

access Putin seemingly like. Like a drop of a dime.

[B]

The only, like, news anchor that was able to do that.

[A]

Anybody in America?

[B]

Yeah, anybody.

[D]

He was really surprised. They had bread at the grocery store. You guys remember that clip? I got bread.

[A]

Where are you living, bro?

[B]

He just had on. I didn't watch the full. I just saw clips he had on this lady that worked for Zelensky in Ukraine. Like his. Like a PR team, something. And like, she came on there basically bashing Zelensky and the Ukraine efforts and stuff like that. Like, it just. It seems. I don't know, it just. It seems strange.

[D]

The rest of the thing would make a lot of sense for sure. The rest of things, because I think

[B]

he went to college and I. I know he went to college, but I think his degree was in, like, Russian history. I believe I could be wrong.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Look that up.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, you can't trust anyone who's been on Dancing with the Stars.

[D]

He's been on Dancing with the Stars.

[A]

Look it up. It's. It's. It's not great dancing, but he was on Dancing with the Stars, and it's random fact. It's crazy. He's wearing a silk shirt and everything. You don't trust a guy in a silk shirt.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Again, Tucker would love to have you on, buddy.

[A]

Anybody on? We'd love to have Tucker on. Let's go. Let's do it.

[D]

You guys seen his I was sexually assaulted by demons story?

[C]

Tucker?

[D]

You guys ain't seen that?

[A]

No.

[B]

No.

[D]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. So my buddies were working on a documentary, and they went and interviewed him, and he shares this whole story of demons in his bed while he was sleeping with his dogs. He's either. Com. I was going to say an inappropriate word, but he's basically retells the story of. He thinks demons attacked him while he was in his bed and scratched up his back while he was sleeping with his dogs.

[A]

I've never heard this.

[D]

Yeah. Which. Which I go. You were sleeping with your dogs? Like, you sure wasn't your big old dogs that you sleep with.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And he's convinced that they were demons. And he's. And he basically says that's kind of the. The pathway that he used to come back to. God, if you will. Yeah, it's pretty viral story. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. I've never seen.

[A]

It's crazy.

[D]

It's really good. Yeah. Maybe we can throw like a little headline on there.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, I'll find anything.

[B]

What I mean, did he elaborate on it?

[D]

Like, it's a whole video. It's like a whole, like 10 minutes

[B]

to him to be telling on his podcast.

[D]

It was on. So there's a documentary being worked on. Yeah, it's called Christianities. And John Hares just doing the interview. And it's. It's super interesting. And yeah, he's just going this couple years ago. He's just going on and on and on, and it went like mega viral. And yeah, he. You know, so it's like you got essayed by aliens or demons.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Crazy weird.

[A]

I mean, that's the story that's happened to so many people, though, too. That's crazy, isn't it?

[C]

It's so weird that these are like, the people at the forefront of, like, conversations in the media we consume. But if you took any of these people and put them in, like, a small group that you're a part of and that drops, you're like, like, who the freak is this guy?

[A]

You know what I mean?

[B]

Like.

[C]

But somehow those are the, like, loudest voices in the world we live in.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

It's like Tucker says, demons attacked him in his sleep.

[B]

Interesting. Very interesting.

[C]

Tmz, come on the show. Come on the show and defend your position, sir.

[B]

Love to be or you're gay.

[D]

Debate me or you're gay.

[C]

Oh, nice Grandpa's dying words.

[B]

Well, it. It seems weird that the media. I don't know, it seems recently. I know it's not recent, but it seems like maybe post Covid, you can now view the media of, like, there's like, always a narrative being painted. You know, like, very skeptical of, like, what media is, especially if they're all

[D]

talking about the same thing at the same time.

[B]

Especially this hantavirus coming out, you know, where it's just like. They're like. They're really trying to, like, build this fear with this hantavirus, but it's like, yet three people have died.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And like, it's not. It's not something that is very. They said, like, to contract it is very hard.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And. But they're building this whole narrative with this hantavirus and stuff. But then at the same time, right under the little table, this story about the Disney cruise breaks. I don't know if you heard about this.

[D]

I haven't heard about the Disney.

[A]

Oh, wow, dude. Yeah, this is very weird time.

[B]

I say breaks, but because it's very. Not on a ton of sources and stuff or like news channels.

[A]

No, not at all.

[B]

But Disney, Disney Cruise. There was just an FBI bust of over 20 employees on the Disney cruise. We can, can bleep this out, I think somehow.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Say it how you want.

[A]

Acronym CP.

[B]

CP.

[D]

20 different Disney employees with CP on

[C]

the Disney Cruise together.

[A]

It was a CP ring that was happening on the cruise ship.

[D]

Okay. Yeah, that's a lot of people. Into the same thing in the same place. In the same place.

[A]

Whether they were. I don't know the details, whether they were generating this material on the cruise, whether it was what, like, I don't know what was happening, but it was people, employees on this cruise ship. So it's very, it's very strange that suddenly as soon as we, you know, you think about how many, how powerful Disney is.

[B]

Well, who they're owned by.

[D]

Yep.

[B]

Like we got basically BlackRock and stuff like these big, big like Fortune 500 whatever companies they own, like Disney, they own all the news channels and it's like, like, well, we got to protect this asset. So like, let's talk about a cruise line in a different manner. And so like when you look up cruises, it's like, oh, haunted virus. That's some spooky.

[A]

Because as soon as you drop that instantly. Sorry to interrupt. Instantly you have people saying, oh, this is. I can't go back into a new, you know, lockdown. I can't do a new covet. Like, it's like that's instantly where people's minds go and that's where they're. They wanted that out, you know, that out cry.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. They want that fear.

[C]

Yeah. So you don't know what hanta is in slang, right? You never found that out?

[B]

No.

[C]

Ooh, it is.

[A]

It's a translation too.

[C]

Yeah. The nation of the six sided star.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

The red and blue nation.

[C]

Yep. It means in there. It's their slang for nonsense, lies, a scam or something.

[B]

Fake hanta.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

Geez.

[A]

And it's, it's a translation for another language of false.

[B]

No way.

[A]

Yes.

[D]

Yeah, that's terrible.

[C]

It literally translates fake virus.

[D]

Terrible marketing.

[A]

No way.

[C]

Google it. Like unrelated. Google it right now for your own. Like so you know, I didn't just see like an Instagram something or other because I saw it on Instagram, was like, that can't be real. That's on the nose. And then it pulls up and I'm like, well, dagum.

[D]

Yeah, that's bad marketing. They need to fire whoever.

[B]

Hanta in Hebrew and Hungarian slang means nonsense, a lie, or a scam.

[C]

The way they use it is full of crap.

[D]

Wait, how are you spelling it? Because when I spelled hanta, I spelled it H, A, N, T, A. Yeah, yeah, okay. Mine came up in Hebrew. Hanta is a verb that means she parked or she embalmed. The word hansa recently started getting online.

[A]

She parked. Have you ever seen a female parallel park? It's impossible. It's false news. It's fake, right? That's what it's saying.

[B]

Hanta in the Lakota Native American means move out of the way or move it.

[C]

We're like the, like, topical preachers right now. We're just trying to find.

[B]

And if you look back at the Lakota

[C]

haunter.

[B]

Move out of the way.

[D]

You guys really think that they would try to do another lockdown?

[B]

I don't.

[C]

I.

[B]

They tried it with the. The Omn. Was it the Omnicron or the.

[A]

That's what it was called. Okay, let me remember that.

[C]

There was another variant where they tried to start, like, pushing another.

[B]

People were like, nah, nah.

[C]

I think. I think they're gearing up for something. I talk about the ticks all the time because it's, like, in the woods and. But, like, the fact that there are vaccines that have been patented and they're working on Alpha Gal with the ticks is the thing. They're trying to shut down red meat. It's like, I think they're gearing up to convince people to get a prick again in some sort. There's another patent we talked about last week, and I couldn't remember what it's called. I still don't, but I did find it. So if you go back to 190. What episode? What are we doing now? 196.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So if you go back and watch 195, I popped it on the screen, the actual patent number. But there's a protein, and it encase. Or it encases the protein, and they can use radiation, like, from stuff that's around us now, like kind of 5G stuff. It's literally patented. But they dissolve the outer casing, so you could be injected with something, be a carrier of this unknown substance. Hormone modifier, behavior modifier. You could carry it for who knows how long, but when they hit with a Frequency. That targeted frequency would dissolve the outer layer of this cell. So whatever's encased in it, it's a time to release control the time. So I think they're gearing up for like, we need to get everybody to get on something so that we can.

[B]

A literal sleeper cell.

[C]

Yeah. I mean, literally.

[D]

Crazy.

[C]

It sounds crazy, but you can look up the patent.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Who owns the patent?

[C]

What did I say it was? The Rock Rockefellers. Thank you. It's on the screen.

[B]

Go.

[A]

Go back.

[C]

I don't remember what it's called.

[D]

I. I mean, you guys are in Florida, so I didn't realize this the last. When a pandemic was happening. I came here to go to Disneyland in August of 2021. Okay. And it was such a culture shock coming from San Diego because stuff was still shut down and everybody was a mask. And I remember coming and we went to Downtown Disney and I did not see a mask anywhere. And I was like, oh, Florida is like God's country for real. Like, this is crazy. So I don't think you guys got anything to worry about. Y' all just do what you want.

[B]

Yeah, we just. Florida just wrestle gators.

[A]

We're on our own timeline.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Fun fact. What I learned this week from Larry, who might, may or may not be our guest next week. So Delta and Omicron were the two variants of COVID right?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That came out like a year later or something that they were discovered. Fun little fact. People even made merch out of it. But Delta and Omicron, if you. All the letters spell out media control, which I was like, oh, this is perfect. But then I'm like, oh, you know, you could probably do that with anything. But it's like one of those things where it's like people hiding in plain sight. You never know.

[B]

I mean, that guy seems to be like something that they've always done is just kind of like. It's a. It's a weird thing. But isn't there like a terminology to that? Like where it's like. I don't know, it's like people that do. It's like a. I don't know, like an Illuminati Freemasonry kind of thing where it's like you can tell the truth or you.

[A]

You almost have to.

[B]

Yeah, it's like you have to present like the truth, but you can disguise it for it. It's like a self fulfilling prophecy kind of thing.

[A]

I don't know, it's like an initiation almost. Like you see all those like, you know, comedians or actors that come on talk shows and they'll do. They'll make silly tweets or jokes about being in the Illuminati or eating babies, all this stuff. And it's like, like, oh, it's a joke. He's playing around. But it's like, but is it. You have rap artists that do music videos of demonic worship and sacrifices, and it's like, where do you get that from? Like, where's the. You're like, you're sitting around in your room and you're just brainstorming, like, what's your music video be about? And like, that's where you land on. It's really weird to me. Do you have any thoughts on that? Like, yeah, especially in the music video.

[D]

I used to think it was like hiring artsy, fartsy weirdo people to do your treatments, you know? But even then, even if that's true, even if it's like Jay Z's not creating the treatment himself, right? And it's some weird artist that's into all this occult stuff, you're still responsible, like, you're still on the hook for whatever this thing is that you're putting out there. So that's what I used to think. I think as I've gotten older, I think it's a. More of a subtle intoxication with things of the occult that is probably unconscious. Meaning if you sit down with Travis Scott or Jay Z or whoever these guys are that are dabbling in this energy. Who's the other guy? Playboy. Cardi is like, with the pentagrams, just like, flat out satanic stuff. I don't think they think that they're doing stuff that's bad. I think they think there's just vibes and, you know, we're just trying to.

[A]

People are going to talk about it.

[D]

Yeah, people are going to talk about it. It's a satanic panic. We're gonna get people talking about it. But I think there's something on a spiritual level that's gravitating them towards these demonic visuals for whatever reason. And I don't. And it may be subconscious, it might be on a spiritual level, but yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's terrible.

[A]

And you see, even recently, you see like someone who, like Doja Cat or whatever, you know, like someone who's. You had a real high peak and then suddenly you don't really hear about them. And then suddenly they come out with a very demonic, you know, like, you know, they're going to the fashion week in These very weird costumes and very strange music videos with subliminal messages and stuff like that. You're like, maybe that is for them just to create hype about themselves and create conversation. But it just seems, I think, a weird hill to die on.

[D]

People want attention at any cost.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And I don't know, how do I say this gently? I don't know how much time you guys have spent in la, but there is a weird like energy to the city.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

You know, outside of the smog and a terrible air quality that you just see, just this haze of ugh all over it. There's just a weirdness in la. We had our event in LA and it was like the, the hardest, weirdest opposition on every front that we've ever dealt with.

[A]

What do you think is the cause of the weirdness that is la?

[D]

I, I think there's like a spirit. I think there's a spirit over the city. Yeah, I think there's a spirit over the city. I think you overlap that with entertainment. Lust of the eyes, lust of the flesh, pride of life, that's what's going to sell. And I think you, you have a. By any means necessary, we're going to make these things. And there's like a weird, there's a weirdness over it. Yeah. And, and it's a brain rot. Like, it's hard to explain. New York has something similar, but New York isn't like la. Like I much rather go hang out in New York than la. I dread la. I have friends that live on the outskirts, like near Glendale. And that's, and that's different. But I'm talking like when you're like in Hollywood, like it's just, ugh. It's thick. Yeah, it's thick. Yeah.

[A]

And you think it's because of years of that, like they've just built it up. It's just become the culture.

[D]

I think so. I think, I think it's part mind virus, part, part culture values, part just the hardness of living in a place that has such poor air quality, such bad traffic and is so expensive to live there. So you're just getting just pounded on every measurable, like your health is crap, if you're asthmatic or you have allergies, you're cooked. Right. You sit in traffic for 45 minutes a day for a five mile drive.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And you have this entertainment desperate, like, oh, I'm trying to get on and like be an actor. And then like all like, they just, I think Marvel just fired a thousand people. You know, I saw that yeah, bro. And so it's like, it's just like a hard life. But here's the silver lining. Here's the, here's the, here's the beautiful part, which I think could be something potentially hopeful. I was just with John Irwin and they did the Moses short story, Old stories, Moses premiere. Was that last night?

[A]

Did you watch it two nights ago?

[D]

I did two nights ago. It was phenomenal.

[B]

Really?

[D]

It was really good. Yeah. The way they did it is cool because. Because it comes out of House of House of David.

[B]

Oh, sick.

[D]

So it overlap. I probably shouldn't be spoiling this. This will come out after it's already out. So it comes out of that. So it starts as like a House of David episode and then it goes into David's dad telling them about Moses and then it flashes back to Moses.

[C]

That's very cool.

[D]

And it's like a 20 minute episode. Right. But dig this. They shot this on the Amazon set in la where almost a hundred years ago to the date, the very first thing that was getting shot in LA on the same Amazon set, the same place is biblical stories. So the very first things that were shot for Hollywood were Bible stories.

[A]

No way.

[D]

Yeah. Yeah. And now you full, full circle, 100 years later, almost to the date.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And you have House of David, Moses, Wonder Project, shooting stuff in la. While everything is shutting down. John Irwin is on the cutting edge of learning how to use tech and have an AI stack and combine all these things. I don't even know if I'm allowed to say this, but he's combining stack and he's just making stuff that's better for cheaper. And the, the market is so fertile with Christian media because it's always been here. People just didn't know. So you got Amazon involved and these people are going. And again, I'm not like, I'm not the biggest fan of Amazon as a company, but I do think that they're seeing like, oh, there's like this ecosystem of Christian creators and Christian filmmakers. People want artists, people want it. Man, we need to get in on this. Yeah. So I was, I was, I was super encouraged because generally I dread la. I hate. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. You guys, you guys see what Saw where I live, Like Oceanside Vista, super chill, blue collar, still normal. So that's the one thing I'm holding out for.

[B]

Yeah. I went to school in Simi Valley, which is just outside of la. And anytime we go to la, it was like, like just. It was super hard. You could really feel there's just like a, like, just kind of like a

[A]

feeling and like over and over in time with creators who move there.

[B]

Well, yeah, that's what I was gonna say. I've like, this is not. I'm not generalizing everyone that lives in la because I know there's people that live in LA that absolutely love Christ, but I had a good amount of friends that love Christ and then they moved to LA and are no longer pursuing Christ. And it's like, like that's just, that's weird. And it's like people from. That didn't even know each other too. Like my friend group is just spread

[A]

out people who are on fire. Yeah.

[B]

Like working in the church and stuff. And then all of a sudden it's just like.

[D]

No. All right, dig this. You guys keeping up with this David case? David D or V?

[A]

No, we. We talked about it recently, but like, you know, like, like when it came out, breaking of the. The car and the trunk and everything.

[D]

So this kid moves to la, family is Christian, he's posting Christian TikTok videos. He's doing Bible studies on the Internet.

[B]

Didn't know that.

[D]

Full on. And people could look this up. What do you mean? Did a video about this showing him doing Bible studies. In the process starts creating these ulterior characters, you know, imagining killing his girlfriend, writing songs about it and all this stuff as under the guise of like, it's just art and I'm just. I just have this alter ego. And then before you know it, life imitates. Or was it art? Life imitates art. And then he ends up knowing this girl through a discord. She's like 11 when they meet, he's 16, 17. They start dating and then when they're together, she allegedly gets pregnant. They want to cover it up. She claims to expose him and he takes out this 14 year old and is now going to jail. And this is, this is a kid who moved to LA with the Christian family. And I'm not talking a Christian face, culturally Christian. No, I'm talking up until months before this happened, he was posting Christian Tick Tock videos, man. He was reading the Bible and praying for people on Tick Tock and ends up with a 14 year old in. In the front of his.

[B]

Oh my gosh, terrible. Well, this brings up. I've always thought this and this sounds like soup. I'm not trying to be like all. I don't know, sensationalize anything, but in Scripture it does talk about at one point that Satan basically set up his throne in this One city, right. And it's like, Satan is not omnipresent. He can't just be every. Like, anytime you're tormented or whatever, it's not Satan, like, it's the darkness, the demons, whatever.

[A]

Yeah. It's your own flesh.

[B]

But Satan, he sets up his throne in one place. And I've always, I've always jokingly like, dude, it's la. But like, I mean, where, where could it be? You know? Because it's not where he. It was in scripture. Because that place is no longer, like, culturally relevant. I don't know.

[C]

It's like, I mean, think about the global reach. Yeah.

[A]

He's not going to be in some desert.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Where there's no people, you know, where

[C]

can I have the most influence? Like, he's a corrupter. He's a liar. He's like, where can I tell the best lies and corrupt the most people? Like, that's. I mean, that just makes sense.

[A]

I'm amazed every time I listen to British TV shows, talk shows, or Korean talk shows. Like, I'll just get clips or watch clips on YouTube and people will always reference. I always wonder, like, you know, like. Or is the whole world watching what we're watching? And they are like, they'll reference, you know, John McClane or all these people that we've had in like, cinema history because they're like, they're watching what we're making.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Hollywood basically is global 100 is.

[A]

And so, like, that's, that's the kind of thing. It's like, you talk about influence. That's the, that's the, you know, like the epitome of influence.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Or France.

[A]

No one's looking at France, dude.

[D]

Fancify, like fashion and like that stuff that's coming down sounds. Yeah, I, I do. I, I am hopeful in that. I think with the death of monoculture, that everything isn't like, centralized to like, us, you know, like, think about like, what was the last, like, mega star that we had? Right. Like, can't, can't really think of anyone. I don't know, I can't think of anyone past maybe Justin Bieber, like, what I thought of. Right. Like that. Like, so you don't have. We don't have model culture anymore. Everything is so fragmented versus, like the 80s when, like, I just saw the Michael movies and Michael was like, yeah, it was super famous. You don't have that anymore. And so I think like, the, the pros of that is now you can have these different pockets of media and pockets of Christian music and Pockets of Christians that are in music. Right. Like you guys saw at the summit. Like, we had Jake, we had Paul Russell. These guys, like, love the Lord and they're mainstream secular artists. But yeah, it's stuff I could play with my kids in the car and I feel good about it.

[B]

Right.

[D]

So I think there's. There's something happening where, where though we don't have monoculture, but it's all separated and. And then if you want good stuff, you can find good stuff.

[B]

Well, that's the cool thing too, that we are on the winning side. And like, yo, if Satan is set up his throne in la, guess what? He can be driven out. You know, like, it's the. It's the followers of Christ, you know, that. That light penetrating that can like, really.

[C]

He can be like, yo, this is

[B]

too much for me now, you know, I'm not saying it's la. I'm not saying LA is.

[A]

No, you're saying la. If we had to pick one place

[B]

and just one place. I don't know. I don't know.

[A]

It's very strange. People from LA comment below. Let us know.

[D]

Oh, we're gonna get torched.

[A]

We're gonna get torched around.

[B]

No, man.

[C]

Was it, I think, was it Tripoli who was on and he was saying the same thing as someone who, like, came from it? Yeah, I think he was like, doubling down on it.

[B]

Yeah. He's just saying, like, the California, Louisiana area is just like. It's just different.

[C]

Yeah. Or even Rogan without, like, spiritualizing it. He just, like, speaks to what it felt like and, like, why he needed to get out. So, you know, like, not. I'm not putting spiritual words in his mouth, but like, no, even he real

[A]

thing, he's like, the oppression there is crazy. I mean, like, Skid row is now 50 blocks wide. Like, that's crazy.

[D]

We had our event in Beverly Hills and I. I'll spare you the details of how hard the event was, but let's just say this is the hardest event we've ever done. Like, just so much opposition. But even after the event, because I don't want to dunk on the venue, but even after the event, we leave. We get a hotel in Beverly Hills, right? Because it's the day before Mother's Day, so my wife and everyone drives. We're gonna hang out in Beverly Hills the next day. Like, cool. We get into the hotel, we're late, we're tired. There's a Thai restaurant across the street to go get food. So I go get food. It's like 1:12:30 in the morning, right? Or in the middle of the night. I order it on doordash. So I'm ready. I'm just going to pick it up. Doordash, pickup, go over there. I get in, and there's a car across the street, a white car, tinted windows across the street. I go in to get my food. When I get go to get my food, the car does a U turn and pulls up like, 40ft in front of me. So I'm like, that's weird, you know? Like, my hotel is right here, but there's this car right here, right in front of me. So I go back in the restaurant. I'm spooked out.

[A]

Out?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

I tell the owner. The owner looks at. He's like, yeah, that's weird. Like, just stay in here. Sweet Asian guy. He ends up turning off the clothes sign, right? And so then I stand outside, and I'm now right in front of the restaurant just waiting, and a car reverses and goes and pulls up right in front of me. So I go back in the restaurant, right? And he's like, okay, just stay in here. Like, don't go outside anymore. Just stay in here. So I'm just chilling, and I'm like, I can't stay in here forever. I've been in there for, like, 10 minutes at this point. Point, white car still out front. I go. I go to him, I say, hey, man, is it like a way out of the back? And he's like, yeah. So he walks me through, like, the kitchen. It's like a movie. Like, I'm walking through the kitchen. I'm going through. And then he, like, takes me out of this alley, and he's like, all right, here, don't make a left. Don't make the first left. Go to the main street. This is off of Beverly Hills in Wilshire. Like, go to the main street, hit a left, and then just go straight to your hotel. I go to the main street. There's another white car having some weird confrontation with some dude who seems to be calling the police on it. And I'm like, is this the same white car? I don't. I don't know. So then I'm like, all right, I'm just gonna go for it. Like, I just walk really fast. The car stops. It's being. That car is being weird. I'm. I got my food. I cross the main street. The other white car is still there. Okay. So then I just start. I just book it. And on Wilshire Boulevard with all of my Thai food. I trip and fall. Oh, and I got, like, sauce everywhere and curry all over me. So then I'm, like, picking it up, trying to, like, see if this car is still looking at me. And thankfully, I got everything. I ran into the car, ran to the hotel. I'm like, bro, this is the weirdest night I have ever had in my life covered in all this food. And I was like, was I about to get robbed? Like, did they recognize me? Like, what was going on? I don't know. And this is not. I'm not in the hood. Like, this is Beverly Hills, right? I'm in the good part of town, and I was spooked out. You know, am I white? Meanwhile, like, I couldn't tell. Like, am I being paranoid or, like, am I just situationally aware?

[C]

I. I'm still a skeptic. I think he crapped himself and covered it up.

[D]

And that leads me to my new story.

[A]

I promise it's curry, babe.

[B]

Probably won't tie that again.

[C]

Hey, you've been mad that you didn't come up with an egg punk since then.

[B]

That's crazy, dude.

[A]

You've really curried this episode.

[D]

I'm sorry.

[C]

Yeah, my brain went. When he said curry went straight to poop. All them freaking newborn diaper changes, dude. It's traumatic.

[B]

Well, speaking of curry.

[A]

Yeah, baby.

[B]

I did.

[A]

Guys, everyone congratulate Andrew in the comments. He had a baby.

[B]

He had a baby. All right. The Grim Reaper. Do you know the origin story of the Grim Reaper?

[A]

I don't. We've all, like, every growing up, everyone knows about the Grim Reaper. We don't know where he came from.

[C]

I'm kind of shocked we didn't do that with how long we've been doing the show.

[B]

I know. Well, because I saw it on this video today. And we'll put their little YouTube here so they can get some credit. But in 1559, in Brandenburg, Germany, these villagers were out, and they looked out in the field, and they said what appeared was 15 and then 12 hooded men. They described him as dressed in black, having terrifying and distorted faces. Some having this says, quote, little heads. Besides their postures. I don't know what that means. Says possibly meaning grotesque deformities or demonic imagery carrying long scythes, like sickles. And what they were doing. They're just standing in this field just swinging their sickles, but they were just making these strange noises. But every time they swung, the grain wasn't falling. And then as they're. Everyone's watching them, they're like, this is the scariest looking thing ever. And then disappeared.

[A]

Gone.

[B]

The next day, boom. Bubonic plague hits that village. Whoa. And you're like, well, that's weird, right? This happened all over Europe. People were talking about in fields, walking down streets, these hooded men with these sickle like things. So it was in, I think, Holland. They were walking down the streets, just swinging their sickles and going to doors and just doing it to the doors. And people were like, who are these people? Boom. Disappeared. Next day, every door that they swung, their sickles, dead plague.

[A]

Holy moly jeez.

[B]

And so it just. It started literally growing into where they grew into the grim reaper. So that grim reaper has, like, real lore behind it.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

It's death visiting you.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Wow. That's crazy.

[B]

It's weird.

[A]

I mean, it had to have came from something. Golly, dude. Like, that's crazy.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

What is it?

[C]

Bill Gates is a time traveler, dude. They're just weird hazmat suits. And he's spraying stuff.

[B]

Yeah. Well, they. They even talk about. Because they. They. The only way they could describe it as is the. The sickles or the cysts or whatever. But there's, like, one account to where it's like, it. Basically, it sounded like something that was spraying. Like a. Like a sprayer.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So like, this rod that was in the sickle part was actual. Like a spray.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Population control, dude.

[A]

Interesting, man.

[B]

Weird.

[D]

It's spooky.

[A]

I wonder why the sickle, you know, like, that, like, because it was obviously used.

[B]

Reaping.

[A]

Yeah, like reap what you sow.

[B]

What did you just say?

[A]

Say that again. But, yeah, that. That is interesting. I wonder if there's any. I mean, this is where my mind went. But, like, when you say field and you say sickle, it makes me think of crop circles.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I wonder if there is, like, correlation between crop circles and, you know, like, there's not death. You looked it up.

[B]

There's nothing connected to her.

[A]

That's scary, dude. Could you imagine, like, not knowing, like. Because obviously we see a guy in hooded. A hooded, you know, like, black cloak, and we see a sickle.

[B]

We're like, driving a white grim reaper Mercedes.

[D]

Right. White car with tinted windows.

[C]

Think about how scary that has to be, though. If you're like, you're in the town, everyone around you starts dying. So you dip to the next town and you start telling everybody these hooded figures showed up.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You're like, that's spooky. This dude's crazy, though. I don't know, like, what he's doing in our town. And then the hooded people show up.

[B]

Yeah. Well, that's.

[C]

That.

[B]

That was the weirdest part, too, is that it wasn't just like a. Like a very regional lore. Yeah. It was a lot of countries in Europe that were getting hit by the bubonic plague, which I looked up the bubonic plague did. I'm like, the 1500s. I'm like. I thought it was way earlier than that. It was. It was like the 1300s when it first hit Europe. And they say 50, 50 to 60% of Europeans died in the bubonic plague.

[D]

Oh, my gosh.

[A]

Terrifying.

[B]

But it would come in waves after. So it wasn't just like, you think it's over done.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

It's like, no, this is the 1500s. This is 200 years later. A wave would hit and it would just wipe out that village.

[A]

It's from rats, right?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, yeah. It was the fleas on the rat. Reminds me of the Billy and Mandy. Do you guys remember that? The adventures of the Billy and Mandy. It was the Grim Reaper. Like, he was one of the cartoon characters.

[B]

No.

[A]

You don't remember that?

[B]

No.

[C]

Golly, I remember a reaper cartoon, but I don't. I don't remember anything about it.

[A]

Yeah, that was.

[B]

Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

It was a Cartoon Network, I think.

[C]

Yeah. I drew the line at Cartoon Network. I always. Those vibes.

[B]

I don't think I was allowed to watch it, really.

[A]

It was pretty good.

[D]

It got dark after dark stuff. Man, this is weird.

[B]

It's a cartoon.

[C]

Oh, my gosh.

[D]

What is this?

[C]

I prefer racist Bugs Bunny. Funny.

[D]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Oh, man. Aliens. Grin reapers. Grin reapers.

[A]

Grim Reaper.

[B]

Very happy reaper. He's happy. What he sewed.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Oh, we got an episode right after this, right? Yep. Are you cool for a Patreon episode right after this?

[D]

Let's do it.

[A]

We're gonna run it back with Ruslan kd, folks. Ruslan, before we go, tell everyone where they can find you what you got to plug. Where the what. What you got going on. Yeah.

[D]

Ruslan kd on all platforms. The new book, Godly Ambition, is out. It's a USA Today bestseller. I couldn't reach New York Times bestsellers list, but we did reach USA Today bestseller. And I think I'm a best selling author.

[B]

Dang.

[D]

At the time of this recording it, I want to say it's like 15 bucks on Amazon. Amazon's running a sale right now, which they could pick it up there. Yeah.

[A]

God.

[D]

The ambition is all about using your talent, your talent, your treasure to reach your Full potential and walking people through stuff like purpose and calling. You guys got a copy of it right there. Let's go. Yeah, so it's been. It's been really cool. Like, the feedback of the book has definitely went beyond just my core YouTube audience. Yeah. And I have tilted down.

[C]

It's kind of blown out. There you go.

[D]

Yeah, I've had a blast just meeting folks that, like, are reading it. It's a trip to, like, be in a room and like, half the room is. Read your book.

[B]

Book, you know.

[C]

That's very cool.

[D]

It's super cool. And yeah, so there's stuff on there from, you know, talent stacking to mastering the fundamentals to defeating distraction and then, like, broader concepts like identity and calling and purpose and those things. Yeah, so it's. The feedback's been nuts. And then I. I did an album titled the Same Thing, which I have just been selling at shows. So we sell CDs at shows and you could open it, scan the QR code, and it takes you to a YouTube.

[B]

YouTube.

[D]

Unlisted YouTube playlist of a whole album. Oh, I may or may not put the full thing on Spotify yet. I'm not 100. Sure you should.

[A]

That'd be awesome. Yeah.

[D]

Yeah. I mean, I feel just like the DSP game and like that game is so weird that I think trying to get people to buy physicals again. And I'm doing a vinyl. I think that that's been fun. You know, do vinyl for it as well. And so. Yeah. So book an album. Cassettes too. Yeah, do some cassettes.

[A]

You also got that 60 day devotional Occupy Till I Come, Right? That's available to buy.

[D]

That's available to buy.

[A]

We got one. That's great.

[D]

Yeah, that's. That's one of our best sellers that's super fun in. Because it has custom journal prompts. So you read like you go through the entire narrative of scripture in 60 days, and then every single day there's custom journal prompts and a section for prayer requests. And so, like, I think what people discover is like, hey, if I just jot my prayers down, just write the things I'm praying to the lord for for 60 days. You'll be shocked how many things actually get answered that we pray for and forget.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

You know, so we push people like, hey, document your prayers because Lord, Lord be moving. God be moving and answering stuff. We just forget because we're busy and we're running around. So.

[A]

Because you'll make. He may say no to something.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And then something better comes along.

[D]

Amen. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah the blessedgod co for all

[A]

that stuff and you got the conference. Everyone can sign up is it waiting

[D]

list okay for if they go to like any of our previous videos we released they can sign up for or just go to bless godsummit.com I think it's happening about a month after Easter so like end of April 2027. So God willing we have you guys back. We're starting to kind of finalize the lineup and hopefully you'll be there and could bring your new baby and enjoy the beach.

[C]

Heck yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Thank you so much.

[B]

On you're the man.

[A]

We love you.

[B]

We love you.

[D]

Appreciate it.

[B]

Patreon.com forward slasher breadflies go there now.

[A]

Yes sunnycoolswag.com get your ninja merch today. We got some new merch coming out soon. We love you. Jesus loves you. Bye bye.

[C]

What you're about to see.

[D]

Wow of you dominoes. If any of you know what these

[C]

multi decade UAP are Aliens.

[D]

Bottle nose fish pics There's a massive

[A]

police response on the dolphin thing.

[D]

Dolphin style attack.

[A]

Fallen Far less fallen how could you be so far.