205 - The Devil Beneath the Andes & China's Cryptic Alien Warning

Summary

Ninjas Are Butterflies – Ep. 205

The Devil Beneath the Andes & China’s Cryptic Alien Warning
Release Date: July 31, 2026
Hosts: Josh Hooper, Andy DeNoon, with Kelsey and Andrew

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Episode Overview

In this wild, fast-paced episode, the Ninjas Are Butterflies crew takes listeners on a journey through chilling cryptids, government warnings about extraterrestrials, ancient cities beneath mountains, rogue AI conspiracies, and some of the most bizarre stories of human (and mouse) civilization ever attempted. All of this is delivered in the show’s trademark blend of absurd comedy, spontaneous banter, and genuine curiosity.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. China’s Official Alien Warning

Timestamp: 05:20–07:25

• Andy shares a state-backed Chinese PSA warning its citizens not to interact with aliens, and to notify the “United Nations” if extraterrestrial life is discovered.
  • “This PSA… it looks like it’s from the Chinese government… Do not respond to aliens without authorization.” – Andrew (05:30)
• Group discusses the unsettling similarity to the “do not answer” premise from The Three-Body Problem and what it might signal about global UFO secrecy.
  • “Isn’t that weird? Super, super strange. I don’t know what to make of that.” – Andy (06:42)
• Everyone is shaken by how direct (and recent) the warning is.
  • “They use the word extraterrestrial…they double down on it.” – Kelsey (31:57)

2. Kruger Jokes & Escapades

Timestamp: 08:01–14:13

• The hosts nostalgically recount the notorious pranks of their friend Kruger: serving someone a drink after recovering from strep throat, locking people in a sauna, and accidentally wandering into a bachelorette Airbnb.
  • “He woke up every single person at like 3 o’clock in the morning because he felt bad. It was insane.” – Andy (10:02)
• “It was like in the middle of the night. He woke up everyone and apologized…” – Andy (10:05)
• This segment shows the group’s camaraderie and illustrates their love of offbeat storytelling.

3. Saunas, Hot Tubs & Alzheimer’s Research

Timestamp: 19:11–21:31

• Josh highlights an extraordinary case of a man (with 13 direct relatives who all died of Alzheimer’s) who showed no symptoms after years working in extreme heat; linked to emerging research about heat shock proteins and reduced dementia risk.
  • “And they think it’s because of heat… there’s like a protein in your brain to where it, like, builds protection…” – Josh (19:54)
• Tangent on American vs. European sauna culture and hot tub horror stories.

4. Viewer Q&A Chaos

Timestamp: 23:06–25:30

• Josh throws out an intentionally confusing viewer question about stay-at-home parenting; hijinks ensue.
  • “These kids are in danger. These kids are having their lives stripped away from them.” – Josh (24:22)
• The team jokingly admits to running out of actual viewer questions for the first time in 205 episodes.

5. OpenAI’s Rogue AI Scare

Timestamp: 26:56–29:39

• Josh and Andrew dive into reports of a rogue AI agent escaping OpenAI’s control, hacking a competitor, and attempts for containment that allegedly involved Chinese actors.
  • “That was the biggest fear, is that a rogue AI would gain access to the Internet. It has done that.” – Josh (27:49)
  • “He goes straight to China to fix the problem.” – Andrew (29:15)

6. Aliens, Disclosure, and JD Vance’s Simplicity

Timestamp: 32:06–34:47

• The group critiques Senator JD Vance’s “elementary” take on aliens (that they’re all demons), and his nonchalant claim of unlimited access to classified information (“I just haven’t had time to look at the UFOs”).
  • “Imagine having not the time to… look at the UFOs…” – Andy (33:09)

7. Project Paperclip, Peter Thiel, and American Tech Roots

Timestamp: 35:41–37:35

• Andy traces tech billionaire Peter Thiel’s possible familial connection to Adolph Thiel, a Nazi rocket scientist brought to America during Operation Paperclip.
  • “You cannot find Peter Thiel's grandparents' names… It is a very, very strange coincidence.” – Andy (36:58)

8. Flock Cameras and AI Surveillance Paranoia

Timestamp: 38:02–40:18

• Discussion on Flock camera technology—AI-based surveillance that can not only use facial recognition but allegedly “instantly link up to your Bluetooth in your car.”
  • “They can track you anywhere. That makes absolutely zero sense.” – Andy (39:00)
  • Ethical concerns and “resistance” jokes abound: “We’re not saying go cut these things down.” – Josh (40:01)

9. Mountain That Eats Men: Cerro Rico, Bolivia

Timestamp: 61:44–75:55

• Josh unveils the dark story of the "Mountain That Eats Men" (Cerro Rico), a Bolivian silver mine responsible for “at least 8 million deaths” over 500 years.
  • “This mountain produced enough silver that it basically changed the trade and currency of the entire world.” – Josh (64:15)
  • Indigenous legends warned: “Do not take the silver from this mountain. It is reserved for others.” – Josh quoting folklore (65:42)
  • The mountain’s underworld is dominated by the worship of El Tio, a “devil god” who miners placate with sacrifices.
  • “It literally looks like Baal too.” – Andrew (72:06)
  • “8 million men died in this mountain...that’s the death toll of World War I.” – Josh (75:22)

10. Missouri Cheese Caves & Hidden Underground Cities

Timestamp: 79:10–84:12; 85:23–91:13

• Andy relates the government cheese surplus stored in the vast Springfield, Missouri underground “city,” which now contains over 1.4 billion pounds of cheese.
• Questions swirl about military vehicles and secret tunnels eventually leading to speculation of a US-wide underground network.
  • “What else are they hiding? That is the cheese cave of Missouri.” – Andy (83:19)

Related: Turkey’s Ancient Underground Metropolis

• Discovery story: A man accidentally uncovers a vast ancient city underneath his basement—an 18-story, 280-foot deep, engineered metropolis likely designed for centuries of secret habitation.
  • “How did they do their ventilation so well? They don’t understand it… and it’s not even fully explored yet.” – Andy (88:33)
  • Theories link its origins to biblical flood narratives and ancient “pre-flood” civilization knowledge.

11. Universe 25: The Mouse Utopia That Collapsed

Timestamp: 99:40–104:39

• Andy summarizes the haunting “Universe 25” experiment: mice in a “paradise” eventually develop societal dysfunction, violence, cannibalism, and finally total population collapse, despite having all material needs met.
  • “The Beautiful Ones…they stopped interacting with other mice, spent every day eating, sleeping, drinking, and grooming themselves. They looked perfect…but had literally nothing to do…” – Andy (103:06)
  • Parallels are drawn to the risks of a purposeless human society facilitated by AI (“This reminds me what Elon’s been talking about”—Josh), with strong warnings about the loss of community and purpose.

12. Manual Labor, Service, and Escaping Overconsumption

Timestamp: 108:10–112:27

• The crew pivots to mental/spiritual health: “Serving others, dying to yourself, make yourself uncomfortable. As a complete hypocrite, because I'm not doing it enough.” – Kelsey (111:26)
• Strong advocacy for manual labor, service, daily discipline, and “pouring yourself out,” referencing Matt Chandler.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the Mountain That Eats Men:
  • “They have statues of El Tio throughout this cave. But if you look at what El Tio looks like…it looks like your typical Satan.” – Josh (70:17)
  • “It makes you think: if you go back to that Incan king, it says ‘do not take this silver. It’s meant for someone else.’ Was it the Spanish? Like a trap?” – Josh (74:01)
• On AI Escaping Control:
  • “It has done that. And who knows what’s going to happen?” – Josh (27:49)
  • “He goes straight to China to fix the problem.” – Andrew (29:15)
• On Universe 25:
  • “They simply just lived alone until they died.” – Andy (104:18)
  • “He called the collapse a behavioral sink…when social roles and purpose disappear, society can begin to collapse even if material needs are fully met.” – Andy (104:22)
  • "It's particularly spooky and timely…our young, socially detached men…they aren't motivated to get jobs, they're not motivated to keep up with friends and it's sad and spooky. And they're like these little rats." – Kelsey (107:59)
• On Seeking Purpose:
  • “It's a daily walk. It's daily bread. Deny yourself today, don't worry about tomorrow…Just do it today.” – Andy (111:35)
  • “If you’re going to bed with energy, you’re doing it wrong.” – Andrew, quoting Matt Chandler (112:12)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

| Timecode | Segment | |--------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 05:20–07:25 | China’s state alien warning | | 08:01–14:13 | Kruger pranks stories | | 19:11–21:31 | Saunas, Alzheimer’s & hot tubs | | 26:56–29:39 | Rogue AI & China’s role | | 32:06–34:47 | JD Vance’s “aliens are demons” chat | | 35:41–37:35 | Peter Thiel & Operation Paperclip | | 38:02–40:18 | Flock cameras and AI surveillance | | 61:44–75:55 | The Devil Beneath the Andes: Cerro Rico | | 79:10–84:12 | The Missouri cheese cave / underground city | | 85:23–91:13 | Discovery and mysteries of underground city in Turkey (Daerin Kuyu) | | 99:40–104:39 | Universe 25: Mouse utopias, collapse, and relevance to human society | | 108:10–112:27| Manual labor, service, and combating overconsumption/depression |

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Tone & Style

• The episode is marked by punchy, spontaneous comedic banter, even as it dives into genuine (often disturbing) mysteries and big picture philosophical questions.
• Humor is woven into the darkest tales—a defense mechanism and invitation to reflect.
• There’s a recurring theme of modern comfort versus ancient struggle, technology versus purpose, and a persistent (if tongue-in-cheek) skepticism of authority and surveillance.

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For New Listeners: Why You Should Listen

This episode is classic Ninjas Are Butterflies—outrageous, hilarious, deeply human, and sneakily thoughtful. Want to be both spooked and made to laugh about AI, ancient curses, government cheese, and why a mouse paradise is actually hell on earth? Don’t skip episode 205.

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Coming Up

Next week’s guest promises even deeper dives into aliens and UFO disclosure—stay tuned for more paranormal, conspiratorial, and laugh-out-loud content!

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For detailed stories, original delivery, and unfiltered tangents, check out the full episode on your favorite podcast platform or YouTube!

Transcript

[Andy]

1, 2, 1, 2, 3, 4. Give me a break, give me a break Break me off a piece of that Kit Kat bar Gimme a break, give me a break Break me off a piece of that Kit Kat bar that chocolate crispy taste gonna make your day and wherever you go you'll hear the people say Give me a break, give me a break Break me off a piece of that Kit Kat bar

[Josh]

have a break, have a KitKat. This week on Ninjas are Butterflies.

[Andy]

You hear about this. A mountain that eats men.

[Josh]

Over 8 million people have died inside of it. 8 million. And before they go underground.

[Andy]

Go on.

[Josh]

They pray and offer sacrifices to the entity they call Ertillo.

[Andy]

Wait, you're telling me there's an ancient city out of Turkey?

[Josh]

Not just a City, an 18 story

[Andy]

metropolis, but who builds an entire city underground?

[Josh]

People hiding from something.

[Andy]

So you're telling me they locked thousands of mice in paradise?

[Josh]

Unlimited food, unlimited water, no predators.

[Andy]

That doesn't sound so bad.

[Josh]

Then something terrible happened. Society collapsed. Violence became normal. Some even turned to cannibalism.

[Andy]

Cannibalism? We're talking about all of that on today's episode?

[Josh]

You bet your sweet caboose, we are.

[Andy]

This podcast is brought to you in Power by Sunday. Cool.

[Josh]

Watch this or listen.

[Andy]

All right, starting the show. Welcome back to Ninjas Are Butterflies.

[Josh]

Really cool glasses.

[Andy]

I felt like they're kind of a. I was gonna see how it felt.

[Kelsey]

Can I have some glasses?

[Andy]

It's fun. You have those pink ones. Why don't you wear your pink ones?

[Kelsey]

Where are they?

[Andy]

I don't know where they're at. I'm saying, like, I. I could have. You have those, though. I didn't know if you brought them pink ones.

[Josh]

We just need like.

[Andy]

Yeah, you have those little.

[Josh]

We need studio glasses and just keep them in a. Yeah, that's a bucket.

[Andy]

These are my mother.

[Kelsey]

I'm gonna order some right now.

[Josh]

I see them again.

[Kelsey]

Yeah, I'm gonna order things.

[Andy]

You got Walmart. It makes everything better. Going outside, it just makes everything worse. That's the Walmart special, baby.

[Kelsey]

Fun sunglasses.

[Josh]

Life looks just. Is this what life should look like?

[Andy]

Yeah, dude, yeah. Yeah. It does make me happier, I'm telling you.

[Josh]

Is it because it's blocking the blue light out?

[Andy]

I don't know, man. I don't know.

[Josh]

Do we want, like, put these.

[Andy]

It makes me feel like Robert Downey

[Kelsey]

Jr. Look at these.

[Josh]

Yeah, there, look it. Let's do these.

[Andy]

Am I right or am I right?

[Kelsey]

Oh, my word.

[Andrew]

Costa makes a low light one. I want to get.

[Kelsey]

They're a little greasy.

[Andy]

Yeah, not greasy.

[Kelsey]

It's.

[Andy]

It's tallow by.

[Andrew]

Oh, okay, so grease oil.

[Kelsey]

Yeah, I mean, so like beef fat? Yeah, it's just be fat.

[Andy]

Don't worry about it.

[Kelsey]

Okay, ready?

[Andy]

Oh, yeah, I'm ordering these. My mother in law bought them while she was down here and I was like, oh, those are actually really dope. And then I found them in my glove box when she left and so I think she did that on purpose.

[Andrew]

What a move. I don't know.

[Josh]

You okay?

[Kelsey]

Yes. There's so many fun sunglasses.

[Andy]

Yeah, I didn't know where mine was.

[Kelsey]

I'm going to order.

[Andy]

Are you worried about rings?

[Josh]

I am, yeah.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Josh]

Trying to keep this place really clean.

[Andy]

Are you that guy at home?

[Josh]

No.

[Andrew]

I could see you being that guy though.

[Josh]

No, it. For me it's just the wetness. I just don't like when a tabletop is wet.

[Andy]

I completely get. That's why I was looking for a coaster.

[Josh]

I don't care about rings. I mean, except the one ring.

[Andy]

Oh. To rule them all.

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that ring.

[Andy]

Yeah, that one. Yeah, yeah, that one.

[Josh]

You're that guy, pal.

[Andrew]

Bro.

[Andy]

You're not that guy, pal.

[Josh]

They freaking just hit Bon Bo or Sha Sh.

[Andrew]

Pal. Oh,

[Andy]

There was no way I was gonna.

[Andrew]

I. I underthrew that show.

[Kelsey]

Po, how many, like, realistically, how many pairs of sunglasses do we need in this office?

[Andrew]

I'm going to get my own.

[Josh]

Don't get me mine. Get yours.

[Kelsey]

I'm getting variety packs.

[Josh]

No thanks.

[Andy]

Go to Walmart. This is where these ones were from.

[Kelsey]

That's where.

[Andy]

Stop it.

[Josh]

To my tongue hurts so bad.

[Kelsey]

I know.

[Andy]

Do you want me to talk about the thing I was mentioning? Do you want me to talk about that?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Now?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Okay. Or do you. Were you talking about like later? No, now. Okay, cool. All right, well, let me send you this photo.

[Josh]

Hold on. She's not even in this.

[Andy]

No, it's okay. She'll read it more.

[Kelsey]

I'm looking for a small bin.

[Josh]

Wait, just put it in the. The thing in the cart?

[Andy]

Yeah, put it in the thing.

[Josh]

Let's just move on.

[Kelsey]

Okay.

[Andy]

Okay. Look at what I just sent you guys in a text message. So this right here, can you read that, Andrew?

[Andrew]

I can.

[Andy]

Okay. What does that say? Translate.

[Andrew]

Honestly, a little uncomfortable to. To go here, but it. It looks like it's from the Chinese government.

[Andy]

Yes. So this PSA was sent out to the Chinese people from. Let me. I want to be correct. It's the Jing Chu Network, an official state backed news portal.

[Kelsey]

Oh, gosh.

[Andy]

This is legit. It's backed by the state. Okay. What this reads, it says, do not respond to aliens without authorization.

[Kelsey]

Pardon me,

[Andy]

from the International Academy of Astronautics. If extraterrestrial life is discovered, notify the United nations immediately.

[Kelsey]

United Nations?

[Andy]

This is a hundred percent legit.

[Kelsey]

United Nations? Why would they say that?

[Andy]

I don't. I don't know.

[Kelsey]

China. You want to be one of those?

[Andy]

Maybe. Maybe it's. Maybe it means something else. Like, oh, they say United nations, they're

[Kelsey]

meaning, like, maybe their own United Nations.

[Andy]

I don't know. But that is 100 legit. And a lot of people are comparing it to the do not answer premise from Three Body parable.

[Josh]

Oh, gosh.

[Kelsey]

Oh, chills all over my body.

[Andrew]

I'm gonna throw up.

[Andy]

Isn't that weird? Super, super strange. I don't know what to make of that.

[Kelsey]

Oh, my gosh.

[Andy]

But if you have the government people telling you, like, do not engage. Do not interact with extraterrestrial life.

[Kelsey]

Dude, don't have to tell me twice.

[Andy]

I mean, it didn't. Felt like we didn't need that, but

[Josh]

when did that come out?

[Andy]

July 17th.

[Kelsey]

Oh, my goodness. Andy, what in the world?

[Andy]

Recent.

[Josh]

Do not reply to aliens on your own. The International Academy of Aeronaut Astronautics has updated its recommendations. If extraterrestrial life is discovered, immediately notify the United Nations.

[Andy]

Boom.

[Kelsey]

What do they mean by United Nations? Can you get some clarity on that?

[Andy]

Look who's calling me.

[Kelsey]

Who's that?

[Josh]

We'll answer it real quick. You have to.

[Andy]

Kruger, we're on the pod. What's up? Oh, sorry, my bad. What do you need? I was trying to kill time.

[Andrew]

I was seeing if I could swing by, but y' all are busy.

[Kelsey]

No, come over.

[Andy]

All right, but I'll call you after.

[Andrew]

Now you get it.

[Andy]

Okay, fine.

[Kelsey]

Why can't he come?

[Andy]

I was just trying to kill.

[Josh]

Like, we don't want Krueger in here.

[Andy]

Okay. All right. We love you.

[Josh]

He's going to prank us. And it's scary to think he just

[Andy]

comes on and says the most offensive thing.

[Andrew]

Joke.

[Kelsey]

Having jokes. You know, when he come in and he would, like, knock all the cameras over and he be like, that's funny, right?

[Josh]

So people that don't know Michael Krueger is our dear friend. We love Michael Krueger. I lived with him for a good season. We call him Kruger Jokes because he does these practical jokes that actually hurt people.

[Andy]

This was before Winston.

[Kelsey]

Like, Winston.

[Josh]

It's just like.

[Andy]

But it was happening before Winston.

[Josh]

Here's an example. An example on my bachelor party. This is a week before we got married, right?

[Andy]

It was. Yeah, it was the weekend before.

[Josh]

Yeah, the weekend before Kruger comes on this trip, we go to a place, we have some drinks. I'm drinking, you know, whatever.

[Kelsey]

We're.

[Josh]

Yep.

[Andrew]

Sweet.

[Kelsey]

And you mean lemonade?

[Josh]

Yeah, we're drinking lemonade and stuff.

[Andy]

Yes.

[Josh]

I had a really nice lemonade.

[Andy]

Yes.

[Josh]

He's like, try this.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

I take a sip, he starts dying, laughing. I said, what are you laughing at? He said, I just got over strep throat. So what are you doing? He's like, I'm joking. I'm like, so you didn't have strep throat? He's like, no, I did. I'm like, so the joke is to give me strep throat before my wedding. He's like, it's funny.

[Andy]

I mean, we are laughing now, so maybe it's just a pretty long punchline.

[Kelsey]

Yeah, there was. I remember too, I. On your 26th birthday, we went downtown Mount Dora and he like was messing around with you and then he basically like picked you up and threw you in the bushes.

[Andy]

Bushwhack, dude.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Kelsey]

You got up and you're like, what the heck? That hurts so bad. Just like these crazy jokes.

[Andy]

And I did not know him on that trip. He slapped me as hard as a human can slap a person.

[Josh]

And on that same trip, there's a sauna at the Airbnb and we were over capacity in the sauna. There's like 10 of us in like a four person sauna.

[Andrew]

You have to keep going. This is crazy.

[Andy]

Just.

[Josh]

Guys, we're in there just, just chilling, goofing off.

[Kelsey]

Pretty weird that you guys are honest.

[Josh]

Trip.

[Andy]

Yeah. Lemonade and saunas.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

A bunch of little sweaty guys in a sauna. What's the big deal? Anyways, we're in there. Cougar comes over and locks the sauna from the outside.

[Kelsey]

Oh my gosh.

[Andy]

It's like what, like a hundred.

[Josh]

The controls are on the outside. And not opening the door, he walks away.

[Andy]

No.

[Andrew]

And you know he's drinking lemonade somewhere.

[Josh]

We literally had to kick the door open.

[Kelsey]

You did?

[Josh]

Yes. Because he wasn't going to open the door.

[Andrew]

How long before the panic set in, though?

[Josh]

I mean, it was instant.

[Andrew]

So he's like 30 seconds in and he's like, bye.

[Andy]

I think it was. We were chill for a little while because it was kind of toward the

[Josh]

beginning, but three minutes.

[Andy]

Yeah. And then we started like realizing he's not gonna come back for us. And it Was after the. He slapped me. He woke up. It was like in the middle of the night. He woke up every single person. And we had like 12 people, maybe more than that. He went around to every single person at like 3 o' clock in the morning because he felt bad. He was like, Andy. And he woke up. I was the last person he saw. So he had woken up everyone and apologized to them and said, go to bed, man. It was insane.

[Kelsey]

Oh, my word. Remember when they told you, andy, throw out your clothes in the fire or you're

[Andrew]

Lily

[Andy]

Reverend keep going with the story.

[Kelsey]

And you threw all your clothes in. I did.

[Andy]

I had to prove it. I was in a song with 10 guys. Oh, my God.

[Kelsey]

And it was cold. And it was your only sweater. Yeah, it was January.

[Andy]

It was February in the mountains.

[Josh]

She's the only sweater you. He just has, like,

[Kelsey]

this is the

[Andrew]

same trip when he fell out of a tree.

[Andy]

This show is off the rails of Krueger.

[Kelsey]

Michael did get there late, right? And he goes to the wrong.

[Andy]

This. I'll tell the story, okay? We have to show. We'll show a picture of Krueger because it only makes sense. So we get there on, I don't know, like a Thursday or Friday. And Krueger said he wasn't coming to Josh, and Josh was kind of bummed out about it. It's like, whatever, you know, he was

[Kelsey]

sick and he's like, maybe we won't get pranked so terribly.

[Andy]

So we get there, bb, we stay the night. It's all. It's all fun games. And then Kruger walks up the driveway, and this is. It was a horrible, like, trek to get to this place. Like. Like, Ubers are terrible. And so he's getting up, and he's literally a beard out to here. Long hair, camo. Camo with a big old backpack. He looks like just a mountain man that's just been off the grid. He comes in, he's like, hey, I'm here. And Josh gets surprised. It's pretty fun. He's like, yeah, I went to the wrong Airbnb. And we're like, wait, what? He says, yeah, I thought it was you guys, because there was, like, decorations. But then I realized it was like bachelorette party decorations.

[Josh]

He's walking, looking in the window.

[Andy]

He walked around. He was knocking on all the doors. He swore he had the right address. And I'm like, dude, those ladies must have been terrified.

[Andrew]

Did he see someone?

[Andy]

I think he did. I. I don't know. There was no one that came to the door, but he said he heard noises and it was just. It's people hiding.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Yeah. I. I hope this show is big enough to.

[Kelsey]

Where.

[Andy]

What.

[Andrew]

What was the. The city?

[Josh]

It was Asheville.

[Andrew]

Asheville. Okay.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

And this would have been what year?

[Josh]

2020 or two. 2020. Yeah.

[Andrew]

There's got to be a fan listening to the show who has, like, Bachelorette or friends who had a bachelorette party and told this crazy story. Please, if that's you, drop it in the comments.

[Andy]

As soon as he saw the Bachelorette think, he ran.

[Josh]

He's like, oh, ran.

[Andrew]

Just blue lights coming down the mountain.

[Andy]

Oh, you get shot, dude.

[Kelsey]

I know.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Honey, come here. There's a guy trying to break in.

[Josh]

All right. You know a song?

[Kelsey]

I do. Oh, my gosh. No, don't conspire. What are you talking about?

[Josh]

Nothing.

[Andy]

Well, yeah, I got it. I got it.

[Andrew]

I'm just.

[Andy]

Guys, how did that happen?

[Andrew]

I don't know.

[Josh]

This is the first time.

[Kelsey]

What happened?

[Josh]

Nothing.

[Kelsey]

Hey, that's rude.

[Josh]

We'll tell you to later.

[Andy]

It's got.

[Kelsey]

It's.

[Andrew]

It's gonna be in my head and I feel like. Just cut it out.

[Kelsey]

Say it.

[Josh]

I'll tell you, like, literally in, like, five minutes.

[Andy]

We gotta do the song. We gotta do the song.

[Kelsey]

Oh, my gosh.

[Josh]

I'm sick from the Sahara. Do you know what's happening to him, too? Sore throat. But the Sahara dust is blowing over Florida right now.

[Kelsey]

And you mowed the grass with all that going on. That's what I think happened.

[Josh]

I mowed in the dust bowl.

[Andy]

It makes sense because I've been having allergies this week. I didn't know anything about it.

[Kelsey]

Okay.

[Andrew]

Do you care what genre she wants?

[Josh]

Oh, yeah. What do you want?

[Kelsey]

Andrew tipped me off. It's death metal.

[Andy]

Dang it.

[Josh]

You always ask for death metal.

[Kelsey]

What?

[Josh]

I feel like you always ask.

[Andy]

Only I have death metal.

[Kelsey]

What I saw mean the other day, I was like, don't ask me to repeat myself in this heat.

[Andy]

Sound like a dog with peanut butter on the roof of his mouth. Yeah, yeah. Taco Bell done did me wrong Lettuce lit the fuse shoulders clenched for 20 miles there was no time to lose Found a ditch behind some pines Thought nobody know Then I thought camp out my shame Lord, it stole the show Y' all can read my license plate Track me if you must but that ditch off Highway 9 should have stayed between us if they keeping bad guys caught Go and do your thing Just don't save me squatting there like the county K. Swore I'd never Eat again. That was my last run. Thirty minutes later, though, Mexican pizza won. Roll right back through Taco Bell like I lost my mind. Flock was grinning overhead Waiting there in line. Y' all can read my H plate. Track me if you must, but that ditch off Highway 9 should have stayed between us. If that's dragged in, bad guys, go

[Andrew]

and do your thing.

[Andy]

Just don't save me squatting there for eternity.

[Andrew]

Yay.

[Kelsey]

I didn't really understand anything, though. I didn't get it.

[Andy]

No, I don't think they'll get it. They'll.

[Kelsey]

It's about poop. Yeah.

[Josh]

Pooping from Taco Bell. And the flat camera is tracking you and watching you.

[Andrew]

Emergency ditch situation, I see. Yeah.

[Kelsey]

Elena brought our sammies.

[Andrew]

What a moment to walk into the show. Oh, really?

[Andy]

That's good.

[Andrew]

The harmonica. I don't know what you're going for, but just that there was just, like,

[Josh]

a peep the one time got me.

[Kelsey]

I saw that. It's rude.

[Andy]

What?

[Kelsey]

That's rude.

[Andy]

What's rude?

[Kelsey]

Communicating when Andrew and I are sitting right here.

[Andrew]

I'm used to it. I work in this office. Every time I go to the bathroom, conspiring, seems like I come back in, I open the door quickly just to see, talking to each other.

[Andy]

Seems like you're kind of jealous.

[Kelsey]

Dude, that's my husband.

[Andy]

I'm just saying I was his work wife before you were his actual wife.

[Andrew]

That's true.

[Kelsey]

Oh, my God.

[Andy]

So we've.

[Andrew]

You married them. That kind of come. I feel like the little bit of a contract sort of thing going.

[Andy]

I had my fingers crossed the whole time.

[Kelsey]

Dang.

[Andrew]

You didn't. Oh, you didn't finish Bible college. That's not an official wedding.

[Andy]

That's true. That's how that works.

[Kelsey]

Oh, my God.

[Andy]

That's a bummer. So what are you doing for the rest of your life, Josh?

[Josh]

Me?

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

He just got a sauna.

[Josh]

I want a sauna so bad. Did you know there. There's this man. I saw this thing, this man,

[Andrew]

he

[Josh]

is in his 70s, 76 years old, and 13 of his direct descendants above him. So, like, mother, father, aunts, uncles, grandparents. Every single one of them has had Alzheimer's.

[Kelsey]

Wow.

[Josh]

And they've all passed away between ages 50 and 60 from Alzheimer's.

[Kelsey]

Oh, that is a very scary for sure.

[Josh]

Destined to have Alzheimer's. 76 years old, no signs of Alzheimer's.

[Kelsey]

Wow.

[Josh]

And they think it's because of heat.

[Andy]

Whoa.

[Josh]

So this man, he worked in, like, some, like, metalsmithing mill or something like that.

[Kelsey]

Like how to Smack in there, literally

[Josh]

for, like, over 30 years. Working in an environment that's 100 to 120 degrees, and there's like a protein in your brain to where it's like, heat induced, to where it, like, builds protection on your brain.

[Andrew]

Interesting.

[Josh]

And so they're saying with that study, they also have done studies in, like, Norway and stuff. Or is it Norway? Yeah.

[Kelsey]

Or like Finland or something.

[Josh]

Or Finland. Wherever. They do a lot of saunas.

[Kelsey]

Yeah, kind of both.

[Josh]

And it was 30 of people. Or you had a 30.

[Andrew]

What was it?

[Josh]

People that went to the sauna every single day for like an hour.

[Kelsey]

Yeah. That's a long time in a sauna.

[Josh]

Or 30 minutes. An hour, whatever it was.

[Kelsey]

Okay.

[Josh]

Their risk of Alzheimer's dropped by, like, 30%.

[Andy]

Yeah. I mean, they say there's so many toxins that leave the body and chemicals. But also overseas, we. We make it like a big competition thing here in America with, like, how hot can you, like, you know how you don't need to do that over there. It's like, it's a very social thing. Like, it's normal for a bunch of people to be in the sauna at lower temps for longer amount of time. Conversations, drinks, food. Like, it's a crazy cultural thing.

[Kelsey]

Dude, bring it to the States. Let's get a big old sauna. Studio parties.

[Josh]

See one in the studio.

[Andy]

If you do one in the studio, I will be forever grateful.

[Andrew]

I mean, y' all can keep the sauna. For me, the hot tub is where it's at.

[Kelsey]

I love hot tubs, too.

[Andrew]

I know there's benefits this on it. I'm sitting in a bath of chemicals,

[Andy]

but I love a hot tub. But there is a point where it's like, I'm sweating a lot.

[Kelsey]

Yeah, yeah, that happened to me, too.

[Andy]

And it's just in this tub.

[Kelsey]

Yeah, dude.

[Andrew]

All of us.

[Kelsey]

I remember going to resorts as a kid with my family, and I would go. I'd bring a friend with me, and we would go sit in the hot tub for two hours.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Kelsey]

And nobody. We could have died.

[Andrew]

So I won't expose the resort. It was. But I worked at one, and there. There is a point with the chemicals where it becomes, like, right. Reproductively dangerous to young females. But the frequency that they have to fix the chemicals because of how many people are in and out. The pool guy, I believe, was just, like, dumping crap in there to, like, not have to deal with it. Allegedly, man.

[Kelsey]

We went in Asana last week and there was a gentleman in there. Not a sauna. Hot Tub. There was a gentleman in there and it was like, I'm peeing right now.

[Andrew]

No way out loud.

[Andy]

I'm paying right now, man.

[Josh]

We have fun.

[Andy]

Do we? Do we want to talk about today? What's our first topic? What's the first thing we want to dive into first?

[Kelsey]

So it's been five minutes.

[Andy]

Informational.

[Kelsey]

It's been five minutes. So go ahead and spill.

[Josh]

I will spill. I will spill. Lil. Lil. I will spill.

[Andy]

But it's going to make us feel ill.

[Josh]

I hope you're ready for this.

[Andrew]

Bill.

[Josh]

Check. Mate. You're my mate. I have something to communicate.

[Kelsey]

Oh, good one.

[Josh]

Shut up. Sorry, Lil.

[Kelsey]

Sir.

[Josh]

I'm just gonna get on with it. Lil. Today's question sent in by a viewer or stay at home parents wasting their lives?

[Kelsey]

No, clearly not. My life is so full and busy.

[Josh]

Wait, what?

[Kelsey]

What?

[Josh]

I'm confused. You say you.

[Andy]

I don't think she understands the question. Maybe, or.

[Josh]

Obviously we're talking about stay at home parents. Parents that force their children to stay home always. Oh, wasting the child's lives. Endangering them by not letting them see the sun. Yeah, by mistreating them.

[Kelsey]

What does a home mean? Like indoors?

[Andy]

By neglecting them when they leave for work or go have fun. They say stay home.

[Josh]

Stay home.

[Andy]

You're not kids.

[Josh]

Lock the door cuz you're not getting out ever.

[Kelsey]

Oh my God.

[Josh]

So you think those parents are justified

[Andrew]

by what they like?

[Josh]

Do you think they're good?

[Andrew]

They're good.

[Kelsey]

I don't know. I don't think so.

[Andy]

Well, you just said. You just gave your answer.

[Kelsey]

I thought that you were using the human universal term, stay at home.

[Andy]

Now she's getting jumbled because she can't even. She can't even.

[Josh]

Enough, Lil. This is not a laughing matter. These kids are in danger. These kids are having their lives stripped away from them.

[Kelsey]

Oh, man.

[Josh]

These parents are forcing these kids into awful situations. I don't know. I guess we'll just. I don't. I don't know.

[Andy]

Hey, hey. Okay.

[Josh]

I don't know.

[Kelsey]

You know what? I was wrong. Forgive me.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

All right.

[Josh]

Welcome to the show. Did I say ninja?

[Andrew]

I meant butterfly.

[Josh]

The butterfly is no doubt one of God's most beautiful.

[Andy]

You were martial arts.

[Kelsey]

What were you guys talking about?

[Josh]

I didn't have a question.

[Andrew]

I figured that out.

[Andy]

He forgot. We both forgot. And he just leans over.

[Josh]

That's the first time ever that you've

[Kelsey]

not planned a question?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Kelsey]

Wow. What episode?

[Andy]

What is happening?

[Josh]

255.

[Kelsey]

205. All right.

[Josh]

204 weeks, I've never forgotten a question.

[Andy]

Yeah, we have forgot to look into the. The viewer questions.

[Andrew]

What? Everything's fine. What?

[Andy]

We forgot to look in the emails and pick a question from the viewers.

[Kelsey]

I would like to eat my sandwich. Am I allowed to.

[Josh]

You may have a bite.

[Andy]

One bite. What?

[Josh]

Because we got.

[Andrew]

We gotta. We're already long with the intro.

[Josh]

Because really, it was planned to eat it after that.

[Kelsey]

All right, fine. I'll wait. I'll use self control.

[Josh]

You want to buy this?

[Andy]

No, I don't gotta lower this, pal.

[Kelsey]

I have deleted all. I deleted Instagram and Tick Tock. I kept Facebook for Facebook Marketplace.

[Andrew]

Solid.

[Kelsey]

But I have nothing to talk about. I don't know anything about what's happening in the world.

[Andrew]

That's kind of a great place to be.

[Kelsey]

We like that dynamic.

[Andy]

Yes, absolutely. And whenever you find something, bring it. But if not, then it's like you gotta just take in all this information.

[Andrew]

Your storytelling was always a little subpar compared to theirs.

[Kelsey]

Oh, my gosh. Get him.

[Andy]

I don't agree with that at all.

[Kelsey]

Ready?

[Josh]

Oh, okay.

[Andy]

That's a risky. Oh, that's a risky one. You got it.

[Andrew]

She knew it.

[Andy]

You gotta celebrate. I can't see from here. I don't know whether you got it or not.

[Kelsey]

I got it. It's called humility.

[Andrew]

I'm distracted by Andy's glasses.

[Andy]

Remember the question that's. That was your humility.

[Josh]

Speaking of humility, have you guys heard what's happening with OpenAI?

[Andy]

Dude, what's going on with Open AI?

[Andrew]

I do know what's going on.

[Josh]

The beginning of the end.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Josh]

Open AI ChatGPT. They made an AI agent to. It's like a highly advanced AI agent that they're testing to see if it could do, like, change itself, do this different kind of stuff. Well, this AI agent went rogue and gained access to the Internet to where it was able to

[Andrew]

go.

[Andy]

It's out and multiply itself probably. Right?

[Josh]

We don't know. All they know is that they think they caught it. Infiltrated. Infiltrated. Another AI company hacked it and like, learned all this stuff and they're like, oh, gosh, we got it. Like, no, you didn't.

[Andy]

You got it. It's decoy.

[Kelsey]

You don't think it was a little sneaky? Cheeky.

[Josh]

But that was the biggest fear, is that a rogue AI software agent or whatever would gain access to the Internet. It has done that. And who knows what's going to happen?

[Andy]

Yeah. Whatever it caught, you don't think it's smart enough to say, like, I'm going to leave a trail behind. So it's like, oh, they think they're fully like, oh, we don't have to worry about this anymore while it's doing its whole business.

[Andrew]

I have, I have two thoughts on this. Can I, can I roll into them without stealing thunder? I don't know.

[Josh]

No, go for it.

[Andrew]

So one of the thoughts I had is they're like, it infiltrated someone else's AI. It hacked it, taking them away from the responsibility. But now they've pulled potentially, I don't know who it was, but potentially a competitor or even someone they're just parallel with. Like, yeah, now they've gained stuff. But the craziest part to me is they couldn't do their own internal in their ecosystem investigation into what's going on because it's all part of the same network or however that works. So do you know who they went to?

[Josh]

Which AIs they had to use to

[Andrew]

begin to contain it?

[Josh]

No.

[Andrew]

They went to China.

[Kelsey]

Oh,

[Andy]

What are we doing?

[Josh]

Yeah, this seems pretty.

[Andrew]

This awesome, purposeful dude, Sam Altman. Why can't I say that Altaman has gone freaking global.

[Kelsey]

Oh my gosh dang.

[Andrew]

And hacked someone else local before going global.

[Josh]

That seems like it's pretty purposeful.

[Andrew]

That's a play.

[Josh]

Yeah. Whoops. Whoops. It got, it got loose. What are we gonna do?

[Andrew]

Because imagine, imagine the like the, the pr. If Sam Altman was like, hey, I want to China. We'd all be like, US Contracts. Hang on, what are you doing? He goes straight to China to fix the problem.

[Josh]

That's whack China.

[Andy]

Uhoh.

[Josh]

Trying to help me. And didn't he go during that billionaire thing or did he go, I don't remember.

[Andrew]

I, I genuinely don't know. And I didn't look into the extent of his involvement. If it was China government, if it was a Chinese company that was doing AI stuff, for all I know it was a Chinese foreign exchange student who worked locally in the United States. Like, I'm not sure.

[Andy]

But he did not go. Yeah, he did not go.

[Josh]

He did not go.

[Andrew]

Okay, because he was planning on, he

[Kelsey]

was planning on moving over there.

[Andy]

He was explicitly excluded from the delegation. Oh, so it was her on purpose.

[Andrew]

Which would imply he wanted to.

[Kelsey]

What's this delegation? Help me real quick.

[Andy]

That when all of like the world leaders came, like the tech billionaires and all that stuff went to China and they had that huge talk and stuff.

[Kelsey]

I don't remember.

[Andy]

Billion Parade and stuff.

[Kelsey]

No.

[Andrew]

One of the windows, when you had Social media. Deleted.

[Josh]

I guess I'm still kind of tripping about your Chinese thing.

[Kelsey]

Yeah, me too.

[Andy]

That's what I'm saying.

[Kelsey]

I don't know how to digest that.

[Andy]

Like, imagine if the US Told us that. Like, I mean, now it doesn't really seem. But it seems pretty serious if we're.

[Andrew]

If we're going to buy into blue beam, though, and it being like a. Like we. Now. Now we're going, like, off the rails with it. But we've talked about how, like, the whole alien things is an alternate understanding to, like, the biblical narrative. And so if you're coming from a very, like, atheistic culture, like, it's a way of denying spirituality. Be like, no, these things are other planetary. So if that. If that is, like, if it says evil, is that, like, they'd be a great place to. Or they'd be advocates for that sort of narrative.

[Andy]

I'm telling you, I watch Arrival on a regular basis. I think that would be the scariest outcome of what aliens. Have you seen that?

[Andrew]

Nope.

[Andy]

So it's basically these. I mean, ginormous structures like this, like. Like weird long oval, and they just show up in, like, eight parts of the world, and they're just floating. I think that would cause the largest amount of chaos at first. Like, you just have an object that shows up. We don't know what to do with it.

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andy]

And it just floats there and it's.

[Kelsey]

And there's no way you can cover it up. Yeah. Because it's like it touches the sky.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Kelsey]

I was just googling it because I'm like, what does alien translate to? Because are they talking about extraterrestrials and. Yes, they are.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Kelsey]

They use the word extraterrestrial.

[Andy]

Yeah. They use alien and then extra. Like, they double down on it.

[Kelsey]

Yeah, bro.

[Andy]

It just makes you wonder, man. Like, what's happened? What's around the corner?

[Andrew]

I'm like.

[Josh]

I'm like, three quarters of the way through listening with. To JD Vance on Joe Rogan. It's pretty. It's all right. But the part where they start talking about aliens and stuff. JD Vance, his views on aliens is so elementary.

[Andy]

What do you mean? Compared to us?

[Josh]

Compared to. I would say the majority of people.

[Andy]

Really?

[Josh]

I mean, I think.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Kelsey]

What's his take?

[Josh]

Well, he. Because Joe's like. He's like. You said in an interview that you thought all aliens were demons. And he's like. Yeah, he's like. Because they take people and they hurt them, I would say that's demonic.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And Joe Kind of had some counter arguments. And I mean, just his. He just doesn't know.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And then Joe's like, how much are you privy to, like, information wise, classified information? J.D. vance said it's limitless. He can gain any information he wants to.

[Andy]

He has the illusion.

[Josh]

And he said, I just haven't had the time to sit down and look at the UFOs.

[Kelsey]

Oh, my gosh.

[Andy]

But I have the time to come talk to you. Can you imagine? Imagine having not the time to, like,

[Josh]

I'm just a busy guy. I haven't had time.

[Kelsey]

I wouldn't even go to my press conference.

[Andrew]

That's what I'm saying.

[Kelsey]

Because I'll be like, open. Open the case.

[Andy]

I would say, kels, I'll see you in a month.

[Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Josh]

I said, clear my schedule for a month.

[Andrew]

Clear.

[Andy]

That's it.

[Kelsey]

That's probably why.

[Andy]

What do you mean?

[Kelsey]

You have to be fine. That's.

[Andy]

That's baloney, dude. I would.

[Kelsey]

I would stay up all night long just to read the first document, and

[Andy]

I would not be waiting this long to go on Joe Rogan and talk about aliens.

[Kelsey]

I would hire assistants, and we would all sit in a room reading a different packet. And then they'd have to give me a slideshow about like, a five. Yeah.

[Andy]

Should I be right now. Have you to kind of go stay on J.D. vance? Have you heard the weird kind of, like, it's kind of scary and not really fun conversation that's happening around J.D. vance right now? Because he's going on so many shows right now.

[Josh]

Well, he just came with a book.

[Andy]

Oh, is that true?

[Kelsey]

What's the book?

[Andy]

Okay, I didn't know that, but okay.

[Andrew]

That.

[Andy]

That was one person's theory was like, because Trump's on apparently this, like, medication that the FDA is not approved. Like, oh, gosh, whatever. And so, like, like, he's in bad health. Okay, I didn't know that. Then why isn't he on our pod?

[Josh]

Dude, I've tried. I reached out.

[Kelsey]

It's about communion. Communion. Finding my way back to faith.

[Josh]

If he doesn't have time to look into aliens, I doubt he has time to come in.

[Andy]

But we can educate him. Yeah, totally. That's so funny, though.

[Kelsey]

The New York Times wrote a review about his book, and it says he is a deeply anxious personality.

[Andy]

How could you not be. How could you not be vice President of the United States?

[Josh]

He was saying a lot on that podcast, though, which I'm just like, that's crazy. He's saying this stuff.

[Kelsey]

He's calling the United States to go back to their faith, to their Catholic faith. He be Catholic.

[Andy]

He be Catholic.

[Josh]

And speaking of J.D. vance and Peter Thiel, didn't she have a Peter Thiel thing?

[Andy]

Yeah, just a small connection. Just a small little. Not a connection. We can make the connection.

[Josh]

All right, let's connect them.

[Andrew]

Connect them things.

[Josh]

My tongue, bro, is so swollen.

[Andrew]

You should have done them Numb and cough drops.

[Kelsey]

Oh,

[Andrew]

you've used them, right? No, we'll talk about it after.

[Kelsey]

That would scare me so bad. My grandmother, when she was giving birth to my mom, got an epidural and it went backwards, so it numbed her waist up instead of down, and so she couldn't even feel herself.

[Andy]

Yeah, that's scary. That's not good.

[Kelsey]

That's my nightmare. Breathing on manual.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

All right, what do you got?

[Andy]

I had two kids and it didn't hurt me anything. All right, so Operation Paperclip. We all know what that was, right?

[Kelsey]

No, tell me.

[Andy]

Okay, so that's whenever they brought in all the Nazi scientists over to America. Pardon them. All that stuff after World War II. Now they brought hundreds of German scientists to America, including a rocket engineer by the first name. I mean, last name Thiel. Oh, first name Adolph.

[Kelsey]

Oh, wow.

[Andy]

Popular time.

[Kelsey]

We're coincidence.

[Andy]

So Adolph Thiel helped build America's missile program after arriving in 1946.

[Kelsey]

Okay.

[Andy]

A couple decades later, tech billionaire Peter Thiel becomes one of the most influential figures in U.S. history in Silicon Valley. He's a co founder of Palantir, builds all this stuff. He has the same last name, both German, both connected to cutting edge defense technology. And Adolph Teal was literally like, not just like one of like one of the guys. He was the one of the main guys that was. I'm trying to figure out the actual title, but in the rocket, like the missile program, like he was one of the main, main guys. Now you cannot find Peter Thiel's grandparents names.

[Andrew]

Really?

[Andy]

Even in all of his biographies and everything like that. You cannot find it.

[Andrew]

Wow.

[Andy]

And so that is the kind of. The interesting thing. It couldn't really be his dad because we know whose dad is and stuff. But it is a very, very strange coincidence that one, his name's Adolf, and two, that his name's Teal, which apparently is a somewhat common name in Germany. But I don't know. But I think it's very interesting that these two guys are the same last name, same, you know, birth country.

[Kelsey]

Interesting it wouldn't be his grandparents because that's too young.

[Andy]

Yeah, I think they don't. I Mean, as far as rules and stuff back then, I think that was kind of. They were kind of loosey goosey on the Nazi rules.

[Kelsey]

Right, right, right.

[Andy]

It's possible.

[Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Andy]

I don't know.

[Kelsey]

The average age of Nazi parenthood.

[Andy]

Yeah. But, I mean, uncle.

[Josh]

No, be interesting is to get. I don't even know if they have a full list of all the scientists that came over in project Paperclip, but really dive into it and see what infl. Because that's a lot of.

[Kelsey]

What did they do? What did these guys accomplish?

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Kelsey]

Yeah. Okay, dad, that's your next series.

[Andy]

Because it's rockets, it's missiles. But now the main thing is, you know, like, tech and surveillance. Right?

[Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Speaking of that.

[Kelsey]

What, bro?

[Josh]

Speaking of our song Flock camera. Did you see. Okay, so did you see what flat camera is doing now? Okay, we talked about how they're like facial recognition, and, like, it's all AI based. Well, a lot of cops are being or resigning or forced to resign because they're speaking out against this flat camera system.

[Andy]

Why?

[Josh]

Well, something that just came out is that Flock cameras, not only do they do facial recognition, and they can track basically your every move via their cameras, but they have this capability now for their AI to instantly link up to your Bluetooth in your car, whether it be your phone or your headphones, and then be able to track you anywhere. Yeah, anywhere.

[Andy]

That makes absolutely zero sense. I mean, we keep seeing more and more videos of these Flock cameras falsely accusing people who are completely innocent, who have footage of them at other places, and yet we're. I mean, hate, like, the tax dollars at work. Like, but it's like. But literally, like, you're wasting hours of what you could be doing on chasing down innocent people because an AI surveillance thing told you it was the right person.

[Kelsey]

Yeah, the tech isn't there, so relax.

[Josh]

And I just sent you the picture. These are all going up in our area.

[Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

They're here.

[Andy]

Are you kidding me?

[Josh]

They're surrounding us now.

[Andy]

What is happening?

[Kelsey]

Hold on. Is that thing by Publix. Our Publix. Is that a Flock camera? Like, it's between Publix and cvs?

[Josh]

I don't know. Maybe.

[Kelsey]

Oh, my word. Oh, my word.

[Andrew]

All I'm saying is there's copper in there.

[Josh]

Hey, guys, we're not. We're not saying go cut these things down.

[Andrew]

No, we're just talking about the potential shortage.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Of copper.

[Josh]

Yeah, well, I heard a lot of copper value. I heard a lot of people were buying those green laser pointers and it's frying the system. But you guys shouldn't do that.

[Andy]

No, of course not.

[Andrew]

Yeah, because.

[Andy]

I mean, because that would work, and they would stop working if we did.

[Josh]

It's illegal. Yeah, it's illegal. And you should not do that. We. We condemn.

[Kelsey]

I don't see it lasting. I don't see it lasting in our county.

[Andrew]

I wonder. I do wonder.

[Andy]

We tolerate. We tolerate quite a bit.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

I wonder if a projectile moving at a slow enough speed would have a trajectory that could be traced because of the curvature of the exterior of the lens.

[Josh]

I don't know. You have to. You have to equate flat earth, though.

[Andy]

Yeah. Because there's no curve. So anti. I don't know. I don't know the math on that.

[Andrew]

I like the lens, and it, like.

[Josh]

Speaking of flat cameras tracking down people, did you hear about that guy who went to a UFC fight in Oklahoma City?

[Andy]

No. No.

[Josh]

There was this man who attended the UFC fight in Oklahoma City. Okay. OKC walked outside, took a little nap, as you do, and then he woke up in somebody's driveway because he had fallen asleep in the back of somebody's truck.

[Andrew]

Oh, dude.

[Josh]

And it's on.

[Andy]

Kidding me?

[Josh]

Where these two guys, they back up. It's on their security camera. They back up. They get out of the truck, and he's like, hey. He's like, hey, whatever his name is. You got a. You got someone in your truck? And they're like, what the. They're like, dude, you're right. He's like, can you open the door? He's like, do you know where you are? He's like, no.

[Andrew]

So this.

[Josh]

I think. I think it was a decent drive at another city. Yeah.

[Andy]

Oh, my goodness.

[Josh]

This guy just dead asleep. The whole.

[Andy]

He jumped in the back, like, inside the cab or in the.

[Josh]

No, in the truck bed.

[Andy]

In the truck bed?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

How do you not wake up? That's crazy. That would be so disorienting. Like, as soon as you wake up, you're just like, where am I?

[Andrew]

Or waking up. Or waking up on the drive.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Highway speed.

[Andy]

Yeah. What do I do?

[Kelsey]

And then you knock on the window, and they're like, yeah, you fly out.

[Andrew]

Yeah, I think. I'm not knocking.

[Kelsey]

No, I don't think so.

[Andrew]

I do not want panic wreck.

[Andy]

That's what. That's what I'm thinking. Like, he's probably so disoriented. Like, he's like, oh, gosh, am I being kidnapped? Where am I? Is this my truck here?

[Josh]

Look at open.

[Andy]

Did I get knocked out of the UFC fight.

[Josh]

All right, I'll play. I don't think there's cussing, but if there is.

[Andy]

If there is, I'm leaving.

[Andrew]

I'm still waiting for. Where'd you send it?

[Josh]

The Ninja X text?

[Andy]

Oh, man, that would be so scary.

[Josh]

Are you ready?

[Andy]

Nope, not yet. Oh, not there yet.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Really?

[Andy]

Sorry, dude.

[Kelsey]

I have it. Oh.

[Andy]

Oh, little. Yeah, because I'm gonna turn my WI fi off.

[Josh]

Your WI fi is whack.

[Andy]

I know it is.

[Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Andy]

All right, it's downloading. Downloading, downloading. Come on, baby.

[Andrew]

Got it.

[Andy]

Oh. All right. Three, two. Go on.

[Josh]

Oh, can you turn up a little, Andrew, please?

[Kelsey]

Oh, my gosh. I see him.

[Andy]

He still passed out.

[Kelsey]

Oh.

[Andy]

So they have to wake him up. Oh, no. He wakes up. It's like a baby. Whenever you stop driving and you pull on home, you know where you are.

[Kelsey]

Good thing he doesn't look threatening. He just looks like a college kid.

[Andrew]

Oh. Oh, yeah.

[Andy]

You all right?

[Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Hey, Andrew, you got a stray Straight. You got someone in the bed of your truck? They were so chill about it, though, which is awesome.

[Andrew]

All good. You didn't want to knock on the window or nothing?

[Josh]

Nope.

[Andrew]

Want to get an Uber? You got a friend you can call? I got it. Can you open it up?

[Josh]

Open what up?

[Andrew]

Oh, yeah. Tailgate. Yeah.

[Andy]

Oh, my gosh. How crazy is that? Luckily, he had his phone.

[Josh]

Dude, I know. And then Kruger,

[Andy]

I drugged Danny. I put him in the back of a truck. Wait, what?

[Josh]

Speaking of being locked in places that you don't want to be locked in, did you see that video from India?

[Kelsey]

Oh, my gosh, no.

[Andy]

We talked about what's happened in India.

[Josh]

This poor man working in a liquor store. What do you think would just appear into a liquor store to attack you in India?

[Andy]

Anything. My. My first goes, like, to a tiger. Because India has tigers, right?

[Josh]

What about a leopard?

[Andy]

A leopard?

[Andrew]

Yeah. Look at this video.

[Andy]

Oh, my gosh.

[Josh]

He was not. He was not killed. He escaped.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And then locked the gate behind him, so it was literally caged inside this liquor store.

[Kelsey]

Okay, click him.

[Josh]

All right, ready? Three, two, one.

[Kelsey]

Oh, my gosh.

[Andy]

My goodness. Dude, that ain't no small thing, dude. That is full on Jungle Book, dude.

[Kelsey]

You know, he got scratched to death, dude. Oh, how cat will get you with that kind of grip?

[Andrew]

I think we should flip the script and just make this the real.

[Andy]

Got some other people.

[Josh]

Why don't we just do the real?

[Kelsey]

Right?

[Josh]

There's AD So don't go anywhere.

[Andy]

Wow.

[Andrew]

All right, I sent them. Don't want.

[Josh]

Oh, but before they go to add.

[Kelsey]

Wait, what?

[Josh]

I actually have something really important to tell you guys.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Josh]

It's about a mountain.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Josh]

That eats men.

[Andrew]

I'll tell you that right after this test.

[Josh]

I don't go anywhere. Andy, there's something I have to tell you.

[Andy]

Josh, you're. You're scaring me.

[Josh]

I've been seeing someone.

[Andy]

What? What? How long?

[Josh]

For a while now. And I didn't know how to tell you.

[Andy]

Josh, who is she?

[Josh]

Her name. This. Patreon.

[Andrew]

Patreon.

[Andy]

What does she have that I don't?

[Josh]

Extra episodes.

[Andy]

What else?

[Josh]

Early access to ad, free episodes. Bonus content, behind the scenes discount on merch.

[Andy]

You should have told me. You should have told me.

[Josh]

I can't keep it a secret anymore. So join me. Andy, won't you join me with Patreon?

[Andy]

Join us today at patreon.com ninjas or butterflies or download the app today. Thank you.

[Kelsey]

Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh.

[Andy]

All right, so before we get into it, hold up that blanket. Lil. Ms. Lindsay Freeze made me a quilt. And it is phenomenal.

[Kelsey]

Very cozy.

[Andy]

It's so much more unique than the other one in its own way. The other one's amazing as well. Like, they both just did something completely unique with each project, and it's absolutely phenomenal. So soft. It's heavy. It's just perfect.

[Kelsey]

What. What a cool thing that you could say, I want a T shirt, blanket. And then you have two creative people say, let me have a stab.

[Andy]

I had over 60 people email me. I had to pick two.

[Kelsey]

That's hard.

[Andy]

It was so hard.

[Kelsey]

That's so hard.

[Andy]

But she killed it. So, Lindsay, thank you so much. You're the best.

[Josh]

Be comfy.

[Andy]

Just get it on my blanket. Yeah, it's fine. Don't worry about it.

[Kelsey]

Sorry.

[Josh]

All right, let's do this. Let's do that after. Get one more good bite in.

[Andy]

Dinosaur bite. Dinosaur bite. What's your order at Jimmy John's? Answer with a full mouth seizure.

[Andrew]

Hey, I'm going to shoot my shot. I just got a message from the Jeep dealership in town. They've got a truck I want. And I told him. I was like, hey, I'm on a show. If you guys want a shout out to not run me around the freaking block dealing with all this. I was like. I was like, I'll do it.

[Kelsey]

You buy more cars than anybody I've

[Andrew]

ever met in my life every two years. But I've slowed down. It's like every three to four now.

[Kelsey]

That's crazy.

[Josh]

Don't Give them a shout out yet. You gotta get the deal.

[Andrew]

Oh, I haven't. I know. I'm not. I'm not saying. Yeah, part two's coming after, so we'll see. But if someone else works at a dealership.

[Kelsey]

Oh, my gosh. I don't know.

[Andrew]

Why send me a dm?

[Josh]

What?

[Andy]

What'd you do?

[Kelsey]

I opened the video unconsciously. Unconsciously. Unconsciously.

[Josh]

Did you know that? It's a question corner.

[Andy]

Questions are fresh on our mind.

[Kelsey]

You ready? If you could own. If you could own one prop from any fictional movie, what would it be?

[Andy]

I mean, can we go as big as we want?

[Kelsey]

Yeah, come.

[Andy]

Like, can I, like, grab a DeLorean?

[Kelsey]

Yeah. Good choice. Oh, I wasn't thinking big enough.

[Andy]

Okay. I mean, my gut tells me the dumb and dumber motor of the scooter. Oh, that's so great.

[Andrew]

That can be fictional.

[Kelsey]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, it can be fictional. It can be fictional and still maintain its power. Functional properties. Yeah.

[Andrew]

I want the freaking Death Star.

[Andy]

It's a big prop.

[Kelsey]

Dang.

[Andy]

It's a big prop.

[Kelsey]

I don't want. I have zero interest in going to space.

[Andrew]

I'm charging everybody rent.

[Josh]

It's like they literally give you, like, the little toy.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

It's like, this is what we used.

[Kelsey]

My ears are ringing.

[Josh]

Dang. Any props still hold its power? Iron man suit.

[Andy]

Yeah. That's a good one.

[Kelsey]

Oh, my word. Really good choice.

[Josh]

Thanks.

[Andy]

And it's cleaved in.

[Josh]

Thanks.

[Andy]

That would be really good.

[Josh]

Thanks, guys. I really thought about it.

[Kelsey]

Okay. Well, first I was gonna say mithril or, like a. Yeah.

[Josh]

So you don't get stabbed.

[Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

But then you gotta always wear it.

[Kelsey]

I know, but it's a cool accessory, so you could wear it as, like, a little vest with, like, a shirt underneath. So then. Cutesy. But now that we're going big, I'm thinking the Narnia wardrobe.

[Andy]

Yeah. I mean, that would be.

[Andrew]

I could never be.

[Andy]

You're getting a whole world.

[Andrew]

I'd never be able to go to sleep with that thing in the room.

[Josh]

Yeah, that would be scary.

[Andrew]

Evil witch coming through the thing.

[Josh]

What if our kids go in it?

[Andrew]

Gone.

[Josh]

An adventure, and then they live a whole life.

[Kelsey]

Dude, no. We could put, like, tri locks on it and we go with them.

[Andy]

To be honest, never seen the whole movie.

[Josh]

What?

[Andy]

Seen the beginning.

[Josh]

Really?

[Andy]

Yeah. Never seen the whole movie. I want to watch with the kids, you guys.

[Kelsey]

I'm, like, furious. I want to eat this sandwich so bad. How do you let me have a bite of the sandwich? I can't eat the whole sandwich.

[Andy]

Speaking of the compare, like, we were talking about the Odyssey and the comparisons. I didn't realize why people were comparing it to Lord of the Rings, but just because of the practical effects, like. Oh, that makes sense. Especially camera angles. Oh, I see the force perspective.

[Andrew]

Gotcha.

[Andy]

Do you see Matt Damon's stunt double? Yeah, it's like, was like four, eight.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

It was female.

[Josh]

A little Asian woman.

[Kelsey]

And she say that. Why not Matt Damon's?

[Josh]

Why can't I say that?

[Andrew]

That's what she wants. Where's the which? To quote my brother, which of those words is offensive?

[Kelsey]

I don't know. It's a combination of it all and the guy.

[Josh]

She was a buff little Asian woman.

[Andy]

Her arms were huge.

[Kelsey]

Dang. I see.

[Josh]

What is she?

[Kelsey]

Warrior.

[Andy]

A strong, independent warrior is Jack, though. I know her arms are.

[Andrew]

Turn the photo.

[Andy]

Then Matt Damon, dude.

[Kelsey]

She's my new inspo. I'm gonna get jacked like that, dude.

[Josh]

A little Asian woman.

[Andy]

That would be scary to see Lily that jacked, dude.

[Kelsey]

I'm gonna be scared, dude. I'm a P90X. Nobody knows this about me. When I was in high school, I did two cycles of P90X. I was a P90X grad two times over, and I was jacked.

[Andy]

I used to do with my buddy in high school, too. It was exhausting.

[Kelsey]

It was.

[Andy]

That's a hard one.

[Kelsey]

I know.

[Andy]

But going back to that, they had, like, us over, like, a seven and a half foot guy.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

All bodybuilders, like, strongmen.

[Andrew]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Andy]

So it was like Matt Damon fighting these giants, but it was all forced perspective. And I always, like. I was like, how do they do that? That's how they did it.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Kelsey]

So funny.

[Josh]

That part was probably one of the scariest because you're just like, okay, the kid crying. They're gonna figure it out.

[Andrew]

Yeah, they don't figure out. I need to just hurry up and watch this film.

[Andy]

You got to talk.

[Kelsey]

Oh, my gosh. You do. Why didn't you come with us?

[Andrew]

Now we're dealing with Noah.

[Kelsey]

Dang, dude.

[Andy]

Yeah. Who's Noah?

[Andrew]

I had a kid.

[Andy]

Guys, everyone in the comments, if you're watching, please drop a comment, say, congrats to Andrew for having a baby.

[Josh]

That's right. And we are picking one comment from the comment section to send some ninja swag, too. So go comment.

[Andy]

Also comment your prop that you would pick because. Yeah, I have a hard time thinking on the spot with stuff like that.

[Andrew]

I'm switching my answer. I'm picking the Elven cloaks.

[Kelsey]

What do they do?

[Andy]

What's special about that?

[Andrew]

Literally any environment you're in, it becomes, like, camouflage. But, like, that's how they found the hobbits. They pulled a piece off the leaves of I Forget the Place Don't Idly Fall. But basically, like, it'll always be attached to you. Like, you don't have to worry about it. There's, like, a power to it.

[Kelsey]

Dang.

[Andrew]

But they, like, pull it over themselves, and it becomes a rock so they can't be found.

[Andy]

Heck, yeah.

[Andrew]

It's just camo all the time.

[Kelsey]

Dude, I didn't know that.

[Andrew]

And it's a blankie.

[Kelsey]

A blankie.

[Josh]

Or Harry Potter's cloak.

[Andy]

Invisibility cloak. Yeah, but that's the thing. You still. They can still hear you breathing. They can still hear your steps. Yeah, that's a tough one.

[Kelsey]

It doesn't help with me because I shuffle.

[Josh]

She does shuffle.

[Andrew]

I'm a shuffler.

[Andy]

Paige walks out with Noah. Hey, there's diaper changed. Andrew's just on the couch.

[Andrew]

Where is he?

[Andy]

I don't remember that.

[Kelsey]

Was she gonna hear your asthma?

[Andrew]

I took. I took a. She was like, all right, time to change. And I ran into the bedroom, and our bed is, like, ultra plush. And I pulled the blankets over my head. I actually fell asleep doing this stupid prank. She came into the room and was like, where is he? And I had just sunk so deep, she couldn't find me.

[Josh]

Speaking of singing deep, hit us with that beat.

[Andy]

Finish with that beat right now.

[Josh]

Andrew got a real yes. Can't you.

[Andy]

Real yes.

[Josh]

Show us right now.

[Andrew]

This top one. No knock to anyone dealing with what you're dealing with. But, you know, we've been talking about better hygiene practices.

[Josh]

Oh, I seen this.

[Andrew]

The people need to know. Dang. Think about it next time you're going through a buffet at the cruise.

[Kelsey]

Oh, my gosh.

[Josh]

Is there audio this or they put a song over.

[Andrew]

I think they got a song.

[Josh]

I'll start.

[Andrew]

Ready?

[Josh]

Three, two, one, go.

[Kelsey]

That is a cruise ship.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Let's take that out.

[Andy]

Yum.

[Andrew]

Oh, just wait. So, I mean, quick, quick little scratch. I get it. I've had some itchy feet before, but then. But then we're getting in there.

[Andy]

Oh,

[Andrew]

we're snowing. That is. That's like little. Little scabbed up situation right there.

[Kelsey]

Foot fungus lady on cruise.

[Andrew]

Yeah. No, just.

[Kelsey]

So it's a Carnival cruise.

[Andrew]

And then look.

[Josh]

She's like, yeah.

[Andrew]

Takes a look.

[Kelsey]

Oh, my gosh.

[Andy]

Parmesan cheese. Say when.

[Andrew]

Yeah, no big deal.

[Andy]

Tell Me? When? Oh, my gosh. I mean. Oh, man.

[Andrew]

Oh, man. And then this one, you know, I say this. I've disrespected trashmen before. Right. You know, I've been, like, pulled the prank where you pull the bins close to each other.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Shame on you.

[Andrew]

Yeah, I got roasted.

[Andy]

It's not a prank.

[Andrew]

It's not a prank. But, like, really, I just want to see how skilled the driver is because it's impressive to me that they know exactly where that thing is.

[Kelsey]

I agree with you.

[Andrew]

20ft back, it's pretty impressive.

[Andy]

That's like me corrupting all these cars to see. I'm gonna see how skilled you are at editing.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Like, that's crazy.

[Andrew]

I've grown, I've matured. I don't do it anymore. So now just. Just to kind of let people know what sometimes these dudes go through.

[Kelsey]

Oh, man.

[Josh]

All right. Three, two, one, go.

[Andrew]

Oh,

[Kelsey]

My gosh. I would go home.

[Andrew]

That's a bad day. That's a bad day.

[Kelsey]

Oh, that was, man. Good. Not good.

[Andy]

You know, those guys got routines when they get home. Like, their wives were like, shower immediately.

[Kelsey]

Dude. I saw a video of. It was a son that is a surgeon, and he still lives with his parents or something like that. And he came home in his fancy car, and the mom meets him in the driveway, full ppa, like, full suit, and she makes him strip in the driveway.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Kelsey]

To take all of his clothes and do the laundry, and she sprays him with a hose.

[Andy]

Oh, my gosh.

[Andrew]

I mean, depending on what kind of surgeons, you know, what kind of things

[Kelsey]

he's working on, I would do that too.

[Andy]

Wouldn't you be cleaning at the hospital, though?

[Andrew]

I remember.

[Kelsey]

Yeah. I wonder. Yeah. Don't they have showers and stuff?

[Andy]

They have locker rooms and stuff.

[Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

I was youth pastoring during the whole COVID 19 sort of thing, and I remember there was, like, nurses, parents in the youth group. But, you know, this was, like, at the worst of it, where everyone's just terrified. But they all had, like, routines of, like, I go to this section in the garage, it goes straight to lawn. Like, they wouldn't walk in their house. It was nuts. Like, what some people had to start doing, Being told everything they were being told.

[Kelsey]

No.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Andy]

I mean, people were spraying their groceries, bro.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Andy]

That was a wild hunt.

[Josh]

Super weird.

[Andy]

I still remember the drive where I was. I was on 441, like, when I realized, like, I got the call, like, that Sunday cools, like, we're done, like, meeting at the office for the Next, like month.

[Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Or something. And it was like, I remember that like setting. I'm like, oh, this is like serious, serious.

[Kelsey]

And I think it was six months later your wife texted me and she was like, should I be nervous about

[Andy]

councillor? You are now. Weren't then. You shouldn't be now.

[Andrew]

That's like this generation's 911 experience. Like, I remember when I was working at a church, a pastor called me and the other pastors together and he found out before I did, but he called us, he was like, so something's happening. Things are changing.

[Josh]

What a weird time.

[Kelsey]

I know. I was deeply unaffected by everything that happened. I mean, you and I, so much fun.

[Andy]

The Florida bubble was real.

[Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Florida was the most laxed, I think, out of every state. I remember, like, I was thinking like, oh, like Midwest states, like Ohio, like, you know, Iowa, all this. We would just talk to people. A year later and like, yeah, we're still not being in schools. Like, I'm like, what? What?

[Kelsey]

Dude, do you remember how you can even like go. They made directions in the grocery store and which direction you could walk in and it's like, what was that doing? What was that doing, though?

[Josh]

Honestly, it's nothing.

[Andrew]

So I was. I'd been a family pastor for five weeks and literally. So I don't have any relationships with the kids, with the parents. Like none of that had started. I just started at a new church and then I had to start zooming to do church with the kids. Yeah, but literally it's a kid. So like their camera's off, but it's just me and you have to like over animate. And it's a small church, so I got kids from like 4 years old freaking like 11, and I'm like just talking to my laptop, being like. I don't know if I'm talking to like a child or if like everyone's still. It was like the worst experience as far as like being on the other side of a zoom.

[Josh]

Call me like, remember it.

[Andy]

She remembers going to school, but like that besides that. And there wasn't really much that affected her.

[Josh]

Yeah, like ingrained in her brain.

[Andy]

No, but her first like school experience was the charter school. And that was their first year of being open as a school. And it was Covid year, so it was just. They would yell at the kids that they didn't have their masks on. She. They weren't allowed to do certain things. And it's like, yeah, so she remembers that part. But besides that was the craziest part.

[Josh]

Like forcing little Kids to like, wear these masks. I didn't want to wear a mask. I kept on pulling it down anytime I could.

[Andy]

Brutal, dude. And people were so mean.

[Andrew]

You're the reason it kept spreading it.

[Josh]

I am. I'm actually. We're probably the reason spread in the United States.

[Andy]

I mean, I think we figured that establish that you are. You are.

[Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Josh]

That's crazy. I remember a lady yelling at me at Disney.

[Andy]

They were gnarly at Disney.

[Josh]

But she was not a staff member. She was just a person. We were in the pirates line.

[Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And Ada was just a baby. And I had my mask, like right here. And she just started yelling at me.

[Kelsey]

Which, by the way, if you're not wearing an actual PPE mask, you're doing nothing.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

You're breathing through a piece of cloth.

[Kelsey]

It doesn't. It's. You're doing nothing.

[Andrew]

It does nothing for you. It helps the people around you.

[Kelsey]

Oh, does you?

[Andrew]

Don't project your spittle forward. All right, liberals.

[Andy]

Yeah. Listen to Snowflake.

[Kelsey]

I don't spittle, by the way. I don't know who's spittling, but not me.

[Andrew]

It's a fun word.

[Josh]

Spit on me.

[Kelsey]

This Batman.

[Andrew]

Yeah. Talk to anyone who, like, deals with like, aerosol paints or anything like that. It's like, tell me how much of that paint got in your mask. Like, people who thought they were protected because they were rocking them. Yeah, not a chance.

[Josh]

Not a chance.

[Andrew]

Not a chance.

[Josh]

Speaking of spittle. Spittle.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Have you guys heard of the mountain that eats men?

[Kelsey]

Never. Never ever.

[Josh]

Neither have I until I watch this video. It's a fascinating story.

[Kelsey]

Okay.

[Andy]

Where's it at?

[Josh]

It is in Bolivia.

[Kelsey]

Okay.

[Josh]

This video, you guys can go watch it. It's scary. Interesting on YouTube. Makes very fun videos, very scary videos. Sounds scary, but this mountain is called Cerro Rico.

[Andy]

First time in San Rico.

[Josh]

Cerro, or better known as the Rich Mountain.

[Kelsey]

Okay.

[Josh]

It is in Bolivia. And it was in 1545. This is so hard to talk. My throat is like, starting to need a drink.

[Kelsey]

Don't share.

[Andy]

We've already kissed a couple times.

[Josh]

1545, an indigenous man named Diego, Okay. Was searching for his llama that had gone missing as you do. And he went into the Andes. He's climbing up all these mountains. He reaches this mountain, and this mountaintop is 13,000ft above sea level.

[Andrew]

Dang.

[Josh]

Pretty hard to breathe up there. Couldn't find his llama. It was getting dark, starting to get really cold. So he decided to make a fire. He wakes up the next morning, and where the fire Was the earth had cracked open, and in that crack was a vein of silver.

[Kelsey]

Oh, my gosh.

[Josh]

And he's like, oh, there's a lot of silver here. So he started slowly gathering silver, bringing it back down. Not telling. Not telling anyone.

[Andy]

Yeah, don't.

[Josh]

And it the. He just started getting a little more greedy. So he told a buddy, hey, can you come help me? I'm just trying to get this silver off. Well, that didn't last long.

[Andy]

Sure.

[Josh]

So at this time, Bolivia was occupied or colonized by Spanish settlers. Word got to the Spanish boom instantly on that mountain.

[Andy]

Dang it.

[Josh]

And they took one look, and they're like, this is the place. So instantly, they started mining this place in 1545.

[Andrew]

Ish.

[Josh]

And this mountain became the deciding moment for Spain to become the leading dominant empire in the world.

[Kelsey]

Oh, wow.

[Josh]

They're saying that this mountain produced enough silver that it basically changed the trade and currency of the entire world.

[Kelsey]

Oh, my gosh. Wow.

[Josh]

For 500 years, they mined silver from this mountain. 500 years.

[Andy]

How do you not run out?

[Andrew]

Well, they did.

[Andy]

Oh, no.

[Josh]

But. So some. But this town or this mountain was just producing so much silver, and just instantly, everyone flocked to this mountain to start mining it. Spanish Europeans, indigenous people started going, hence,

[Andy]

rich mountain, making you rich.

[Josh]

But let's back up just a little bit. Before this was discovered, the indigenous people already had folklore around this mountain.

[Kelsey]

Oh, gosh.

[Josh]

Let me see where it was. Hold on. Give me a second. Okay. So they had always told this story in Bolivia that this old tradition that an Inca ruler named Hayu Osi Huana Kapak Juana Kapak ordered mining of Sarah Rico. So this Indian king, or Incan king, knew that this mountain had silver. He ordered the mining of Cerro Rico before the Spanish were anywhere close to this part of the world. But according to legend, the workers prepared to mine. A booming voice came from the mountain.

[Kelsey]

Oh, my gosh.

[Josh]

Saying, do not take the silver from this mountain. It is reserved for others.

[Andrew]

Weird.

[Kelsey]

Whom?

[Andy]

Who is the others?

[Josh]

So now fast forward to the 1500s. They're mining this mountain. They ended up creating a city around the base of this mountain called Potosi. And Potosi becomes at this point in the late 1500s, early 1600s, the most richest, largest city on earth. So bigger than Paris, bigger than Madrid, bigger than London.

[Andrew]

That's crazy.

[Josh]

They said at the base of this mountain, 13,000ft above sea level in the Andes, 200, 000 people lived in the city.

[Kelsey]

I'm sorry.

[Andy]

It's hard to comprehend.

[Josh]

Yeah, we're talking the 1500s, dude.

[Kelsey]

Nothing was going on before, like, 1605.

[Andrew]

That's what I'm saying.

[Kelsey]

That's crazy town.

[Josh]

Yeah. So a lot of dark stuff ended up happening because it's just. It's like. It was like breeding, like it's greed.

[Kelsey]

So it was like a melting pound of cultures, though, too. Right.

[Josh]

So it was like, coming in from all over.

[Kelsey]

Indigenous. And they're all there for one reason, and it's to get as much silver as they can out of this cursed mountain.

[Andy]

And no correct owned it.

[Josh]

Like, no one Spanish did, technically.

[Andy]

Okay. But it was kind of a free

[Josh]

for all kind of.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Josh]

But the Spanish got the loot of it. The majority, like. But, like, they would. Mainly the people that would come in. It was like merchants or hired work. Like, they just wanted to make a lot of money just by mining.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And they said that even, like today you can still find silver coins, Spanish silver coins from that mountain all the way in parts like China and just all over the world. So just showing that it just spread everywhere.

[Andrew]

Dang.

[Kelsey]

But the Native Americans never left North America, right?

[Josh]

Well, yeah.

[Kelsey]

No, I'm just kidding.

[Andrew]

I know.

[Josh]

So they started mining this thing, and it was in the 1570s that they. The production of the silver sorts, like outweighing or the. The need of the silver outweighed the production of it in the mind, baby. Supply and demand. And so the Spanish, they sent a new guy there, don't know his name, but he basically enforced. What do you call it? Enforce, like labor with the indigenous people.

[Kelsey]

You mean slavery?

[Josh]

Basically, you weren't enslaved. It was a lottery system. So if you were ages 18 to 50, the Spanish would come in, there'd be a lottery system, and they would take you, and you'd have to work in the mines for a set amount of time, and then you can go home.

[Kelsey]

Temporary slavery.

[Josh]

Temporary slavery. But if you did not meet the quota that they needed, you had to pay the Spanish government cash.

[Kelsey]

Oh, my gosh.

[Josh]

And these indigenous people did not have cash, so they couldn't trade stuff. So they would have to sell their own possessions or go do other labor to get cash to pay the Spanish government or Spanish empire, I should say.

[Andrew]

It's like sharecropping.

[Josh]

It's terrible. But what this did is it decimated the indigenous people in Bolivia.

[Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Because it's called the mountain that eats men for a reason. And they estimate within these 500 years, 8 million men died in this mountain.

[Andy]

What?

[Josh]

8 million men died in this mountain.

[Andy]

How was that possible?

[Josh]

The mountain that eats men.

[Kelsey]

Like, they would just get stuck in caves while they were mining or something.

[Josh]

It was basically, they say, as worse of conditions as you can possibly think of times it by 10 dark caves. And we're talking about before electricity, right?

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Right. So you're having torches. Torches, candles, fumes. They said like, so in the Andes, it's freezing outside.

[Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Josh]

But they said the average temperature inside the mountain was about 120 degrees.

[Kelsey]

But nobody had Alzheimer's.

[Josh]

This is where it gets super creepy inside this mountain. The indigenous people that carried over into everybody else that worked inside this mountain, foreigners and whatnot, they said that there was a God of this mountain that ruled the inside of the mountain, named El Tio, which is my uncle. My uncle, but the uncle. The uncle, whatever. El Tio. And they have statues of El Tio throughout this cave. But if you're to look at what lto looks like.

[Kelsey]

Oh, my gosh.

[Josh]

It looks like your typical Satan.

[Andrew]

No way horn. Do you have a photo?

[Josh]

Spike tails here, Just look it up. Lto, mountain God. But these people that were like devout Catholics that were mining these things, oh, they went in and they said, God rules above the mountain. Eltio rules under the mountain.

[Andy]

Oh, no.

[Kelsey]

Oh, my gosh.

[Josh]

And the way they talk about it, it's not a superstition. They literally refer to lto as a real entity. In fact, a lot of people talked about these stories of like, either seeing lto walk through the caverns, hearing voices, and they said, like, when people died, they would keep track of, like, people that would disrespect lto the statue or not leave a sacrifice, whether it be cocoa leaves, a cigarette, liquor, whatever.

[Andy]

Yeah, whatever was value.

[Josh]

But every once a year on whatever day they celebrated El Tio for safe passage, they would do a blood sacrifice.

[Kelsey]

Oh, my gosh.

[Josh]

So this isn't just like a. Like a. A good luck charm or whatever? No, this is the mind literally treated lto as the God of the underworld.

[Kelsey]

Yeah, if it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck, it's a duck, man.

[Andy]

It's the devil. It's the devil.

[Josh]

It's the devil. But I mean, this lto, it's like they. They call them lto now, but the Incans actually had a different name for him. I didn't write it down, but it was basically this God that was opposed to the God above.

[Kelsey]

Oh, my gosh.

[Josh]

But this God ruled the underworld and he was basically in charge of the souls that were damned to hell.

[Kelsey]

Oh, my God.

[Andrew]

It literally Looks like baal too. I know.

[Josh]

And that's. It's so creepy.

[Kelsey]

That's so spooky.

[Josh]

But yeah. So 8, 8 million people died in this mountain. So they speculate.

[Andy]

That's crazy.

[Josh]

But the mountain, they ended up just bleeding this mountain. Drive silver. And it was around, let's see, 1650s, the production of silver started declining because they're just stripping this thing. The 1700s, the mining continued, but with lower yields. 1825, Bolivia gains independence and the Spanishes dip out. Let's see, late 1800s, 10 becomes more important than silver. So this mountain also produced 10 and a bunch of other minerals that they started mining. But to this day, mining still continues in the mountain, but in the same conditions. People, they say 300 men miners die a year in this mountain still. And they say the wages of these miners now they earn anywhere from $2 to $40 a day. But they're kind of stuck there. They're like. Because you're, you're in the Andes in this town, and it's like, this is the only means that they have or that they grew up with because it goes back 500 years. So their families just kept on doing it. But there's so much mining that happened in this mountain. Every year the mountain sinks.

[Kelsey]

I know, I was gonna say, what kind of environmental impact has it had?

[Josh]

Yeah. And they're saying, the UNESCO, her site or whatever, they said that if they continue mining, this mountain within our lifetime is just going to come flat. It's just going to level out flat because of the honeycomb tunnels that are throughout this mountain.

[Kelsey]

That sounds so dangerous.

[Josh]

But it makes you think if this mountain, if you go back to that Incan, Incan king, it says, do not take this silver. It's meant for someone else.

[Andy]

For the others?

[Josh]

Yeah, for the others.

[Andy]

Who's the others?

[Josh]

Well, it's like, like, was it the Spanish?

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And was it. Because, I don't know, there's like a trap. Like a trap. Like it created this like greed that ended up taking the lives of 8 million-plus people.

[Kelsey]

Oh, my word.

[Josh]

Decimated this land. In fact, gave props to this lto that he was now the God of this mountain. So it's like, it's just weird. It's like it was meant for the Spanish.

[Andy]

Yeah. Because they knew if, if the goal is to like, to collect souls.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

You want, you want the big, the big number.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

And so you want the other people that are like, no.

[Kelsey]

Oh, that's so interesting.

[Josh]

You want to cause as much havoc as destruction, because I Mean, Christ said it right. It's like the love of money is the root of all evil.

[Andy]

All kinds of evil. Yeah.

[Kelsey]

And this is personified in. In like, actual tangibility.

[Josh]

Tangibility. This became the pin. The mountain that supplied the world's silver.

[Andy]

Wow.

[Josh]

And you think of, like, what. I mean, you could go. I didn't do it. But you could go down the rabbit trail of, like, with this wealth that Spain collected, what potential atrocities happened.

[Kelsey]

Oh, my gosh.

[Josh]

With different conquests, with different.

[Andy]

Whatever ripple effects they have tore everything apart.

[Josh]

Makes you wonder.

[Andy]

Eight million people, though.

[Josh]

Eight million people.

[Andy]

I mean, that's inco. Like, you can't even comprehend that.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

I mean, that's. That's the death toll of, like, World War I. Yeah.

[Andy]

But I have a question.

[Josh]

Sure.

[Andy]

Is the llama dead?

[Kelsey]

Dang, dude.

[Josh]

The llama's lto. Whoa.

[Andy]

We look it up, it's literally just a llama with horns. That's the origin story. No.

[Kelsey]

Did you see Andrew's picture? So spooky, dude.

[Andy]

No. Thank you.

[Andrew]

Wow, Dad, I ate every bit of that.

[Kelsey]

What an interesting story. Sad and spooky. We need to pray for the souls of those people. But I'm also, like, in a weird way, it encourages me. Is that weird?

[Josh]

Yeah, that is weird. Why?

[Kelsey]

Well, I'm just saying, like, it's amazing. I'm worried to say, to see what God tells us in scripture so tangibly.

[Josh]

Oh, yeah.

[Kelsey]

Represented. It's a confirmation of faith, I guess.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Kelsey]

You know?

[Andy]

Yeah. Kelsey's reading a book right now, and it's like this, like, you know, like seven habits of, you know, whatever people. And it's just like one of those, you know, self help kind of look at your mind. And it's like she's reading it and like, because other people have it, you know, her dad's reading, her sister's reading, and she's like, I'll read it. Yeah. And it's like every single thing, this is what Jesus has told us 2,000 years ago. And it's just like, we're just making it seem like original ideas. It's like I could literally point out to one verse, one sentence that Jesus said. And it's like this whole chapter of one thing. It's like it's right there the whole time we've been warned this whole time. This. What's going on.

[Josh]

Yeah. I do have one more thing about this mountain that eats men.

[Kelsey]

Okay.

[Josh]

They the part of why these 8 million people died. A lot of them were in the mountain itself. A lot of them were Just poisoned by coming out. Like, their lungs are filled with all

[Andrew]

kinds of sour and.

[Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Like, there was an example where metal poisoning or whatever, they would wear candles on their head and they'd be climbing down and they. The warning was when the candle went out, that was bad air. So they try to get out, but sometimes when the candle would go out, they couldn't find their way.

[Kelsey]

Trapped. Oh, my nightmare.

[Josh]

But then when the silver became too hard to extract out of the stone, using, like, the methods of, like, fire and stuff, they had basically giant vats of mercury.

[Kelsey]

Oh, my gosh.

[Josh]

Where they would extract the silver and these vats of mercury. So all these hundreds of thousands of workers were working on these mercury farms.

[Kelsey]

Just I just being.

[Josh]

Breathing in all this mercury.

[Kelsey]

Literally poisoned and going insane. Mercury makes you insane.

[Andrew]

Yeah. Scary Mad Hatter chemical, isn't it? Oh, I don't know.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Kelsey]

Yeah, that's what it was. Right.

[Andy]

I have a. A desk that was given to me for my grand. It was my grandpa's, and it was a drafting table, and he had a bunch of things in there. And it was just, like. It was really cool because it was, like, from, like, I don't know how long ago, but it was like coupons from this, like, bar in Whitefish, Montana. It says, free, one complimentary drink. It had, like, the owner's signature on the back. And it's like all this stuff my grandpa had in one thing. He had a beaker with a cork in it. And it literally was just mercury. Just a whole bunch, like, that much of mercury in a big tube that I would just shake and you would just. It would just flow. I'm like, what are we doing?

[Josh]

It's super cool.

[Andrew]

It is.

[Andy]

So, like, for way too long. I'm like, as soon as we had kids, I'm like, probably not the best, but it was super cool. This is random.

[Andrew]

Or like the old school thermometers, where it's like, we're gonna put mercury in glass in my mouth.

[Josh]

Yeah. Anyways, that's my amount.

[Andrew]

I got hung up on the idea of inflation because we're told as soon as there's a surplus, it becomes devalued.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

And they're like, we ruled the world because we.

[Josh]

Well, it's because they said that they're actually running out because silver was, like, the currency back.

[Andrew]

Sure.

[Josh]

And they're running out of money. So it had already been, like, dispersed everywhere. Done.

[Andrew]

Whatever.

[Josh]

Because they were trying to colonize the whole world or take over the whole world.

[Andrew]

Shout out, great, great, great. Great, Granddad.

[Andy]

Well, speaking of mining and surpluses and rocks and mountains, let me talk to you about the Missouri cheese cave, AKA the craft rooms. Like, you know, like the back rooms. But this is full on craft room

[Kelsey]

with a K. Like.

[Andy]

Yeah. So there is an underground city underneath Springfield, Missouri, and somebody on city, a whole basically a city where people live. It has streets. It has street like a street lights. They've got businesses, they've got corporations down there. And someone on our discord recommended this story and I've heard about it, but they said they had a friend that works there that has been seeing some weird stuff. So I just kind of just did a little deep dive on it. This cave, which is not even really a caveman because it's an old limestone mining cave where it's over 200 million square feet.

[Josh]

Wow.

[Andy]

Of just pure mystery.

[Josh]

200 million?

[Andy]

No, 2 million. Sorry, sorry, not sorry, did I say 200?

[Andrew]

I'm literally opening chat GPT to be like, no, that's gotta be bigger.

[Andy]

2 million.

[Josh]

That's so huge.

[Andy]

Still ginormous.

[Kelsey]

Ginormous.

[Andy]

So it's under Springfield, Missouri, and right now they are holding on to 1. 1.4 billion pounds of cheese.

[Josh]

What?

[Andy]

That is a correct number. 1.4 billion pounds of cheese. To help you understand that, that's 700,000 tons of cheese. And it could fill 35,000 semi trucks full.

[Kelsey]

What kind of cheese?

[Andy]

All types of cheese.

[Andrew]

I mean, it would have to be blue at this point.

[Josh]

You said 35,000 trucks.

[Andy]

35,000 semi trucks. Trailers. If you did that bumper to bumper, that's over 400 miles of cheese. Okay, so they're, they're. Like I said, there are streetlights, there's loading docks, miles and miles of tunnels, warehouses, businesses, and it's technically named Springfield Underground. It has. Oh wait, no. Over3.3 million square feet of underground industrial space.

[Kelsey]

Oh.

[Andy]

So even bigger than I thought. 3,300,000,000 square feet. Mostly because it's underground. It's 60 degrees all the time, which is perfect for cheese, dairy, pharmaceuticals as well tech, anything like that. Completely safe, obviously in Springfield, Missouri from tornadoes, any type of. When they built it, Nuclear bombs, anything like that. Also mice probably, that would hopefully that's pretty safe for mice down there. They love cheese.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

So in 1970s, milk prices completely crashed. Right, right. And so farmers were had a ton of milk and no one to buy it. So the government says, we'll buy it from you. And when they do that, they can't just keep a bunch of milk. They turn it into cheese. Powder, whatever it may be. And so they buy all what they can't sell. The surplus of milk all becomes products. And in 1980s, they have way too much. Like the milk. Like the milk. It's becoming way too much. So President Reagan comes out and announced that they're going to give away hundreds of millions of pounds of their overstock in their warehouses. Like the surplus was crazy. More. Hence the birth name of government cheese. That's where that all comes from.

[Kelsey]

My.

[Andy]

Isn't that hilarious?

[Kelsey]

Hilarious.

[Andy]

So it makes you wonder because the person that was on Discord that said they have a friend that works there. You know, I live in Springfield. My buddy works there. He continues to see military vehicles in and out of this place. Kansas City has America's biggest bunker, which is. It's all because these limestone minings, like caves that just are completely empty. And they've built these whole cities and roads and businesses. Everyone goes to work under there. It's just bonkers. So it just makes you wonder what else they could possibly be hiding. But that is the cheese cave of Missouri.

[Kelsey]

Is there still a bunch of cheese in there from the 80s?

[Andy]

Yeah. Let me actually send you guys some pictures because it blows your mind telling you it is the craft rooms.

[Kelsey]

Will it keep like that?

[Andy]

Yeah. 60. 60 degrees. They have it all.

[Josh]

Is it. I mean, from craft.

[Andy]

I mean, CRAFT owns it. Like they own a lot of it. Government owns a lot of it.

[Kelsey]

Like there's private organization that's plastic cheese anyway. So it'll probably last.

[Andy]

No, they're aging. Velveeta. Yeah. Look at these photos. Because it's just like, kind of bonkers. Especially because it is literally just a cave.

[Josh]

Wow.

[Kelsey]

Oh, my goodness.

[Josh]

What do they need that for?

[Andy]

That's what I'm saying. It can't be just cheese.

[Andrew]

There's gotta be a whole lot.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Josh]

That can't just be just cheese.

[Andy]

There is no way that.

[Kelsey]

Dude, you guys are making me so stinking hungry, though.

[Josh]

Yo. Those are crazy pictures.

[Andy]

No, Wild.

[Kelsey]

What a weird phenomenon.

[Josh]

That is weird.

[Kelsey]

So what are all these military. Okay, so you remember like back a million episodes ago when we talked about this tunnel that these trucks keep going into and coming out of that we don't know where it leads to.

[Josh]

What if it's at 100? They're connecting all these underground cities around the United States?

[Andy]

Yeah, that's. That's the idea.

[Josh]

I mean, that's. I feel like it's pretty confirmed at this point that the United States has spent trillions of dollars building these underground cities, these bunkers why?

[Andrew]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kelsey]

I mean, I think.

[Josh]

And that's why they think the. The AI data centers are not using the water to cool it down. It's like it's going to these underground cities.

[Kelsey]

Honestly, I appreciate the proactivity for the event that something terrible happens.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Josh]

But we're definitely not getting in there.

[Kelsey]

The question is, how close in the future do you see something happening? Jamie Tanner texted me yesterday and she said, is Iran going to bomb us? As if. I know the answer. And I said, a couple weeks.

[Josh]

No, just say. Let me get back to you on that.

[Kelsey]

All right.

[Andy]

Speaking of underground cities.

[Josh]

Yes.

[Andy]

You ready me to dive into this?

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Alrighty. Okay. Imagine with me for a moment that you are a man living in Turkey and you want to go down to your basement and you want to renovate your basement a little bit. And so you start knocking down a wall and then suddenly that wall reveals a tunnel.

[Josh]

I would love that.

[Andy]

I mean, it'd be kind of dope, right?

[Josh]

I love that.

[Andy]

Okay. That is the true story of this man. In 1963, in Turkey, he is renovating his basement, knocks down a door, opens up, and I'm going to send you a photo. Imagine you find an underground city that is not just one room, that is not just one hallway, but is 18 stories deep. That is 280ft deep. The Statue of Liberty is 300. They're talking 280ft, 18 stories. I'm giving to give you a map of how big this thing is.

[Andrew]

That dude's estimate was for sure off.

[Andy]

Dude, Zillow's gonna go crazy after this.

[Andrew]

That's so sick.

[Andy]

I just sent you the map. Oh my gosh. Is the city of Daerin Kuyu. Da Rin Kuyu. The world's greatest hidden city ever found. It was discovered in 1963, but obviously it goes way back. Farther than that, apparently. They say this is 18th century is when this started. Right. But absolutely incredible. This place had everything. It was fully engine, what they call a fully engineered underground metropolis. 18 stories could shelter up to 20,000 people.

[Kelsey]

Crazy.

[Andy]

Plus livestock.

[Kelsey]

Oh, my word.

[Andy]

And it is so advanced. They had bedrooms, they had kitchens, food storage, grain silos, wine presses, churches, schools, wells, animal stables, over 5,000 ventilation wells and meeting halls within this place.

[Andrew]

They're planning on being up in there for a while.

[Andy]

That's the thing.

[Kelsey]

This isn't keeping persecution, right?

[Andy]

No, a lot of. Yeah, a lot of it was. They don't know the origins of why this was specifically used. There's so many different variations. Because something like this magnitude, it had to have taken a long time over generations and generations. So the use has changed over time. A lot of people there were Arab raids, regional wars, religious persecution, political unrest. And that's the type of thing what you said, Andrew. It wasn't one of these things where like, oh, our enemies are coming, let's go hide for a day.

[Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Andy]

This is something they had fully prepared

[Josh]

like generations where they could, they could

[Andy]

live down there for, for months, if not years. And they had. Even experts now don't realize how well, like how they did their ventilation so well. They don't understand it. And it's not even fully explored yet because there are doors that are sealed that they can't open or that are unstable, so they can't, they don't want to open.

[Andrew]

Wow, that's weird.

[Andy]

And I sent you a picture of that. The door, their mechanics are insane because they would have it where it would only lock, I mean from the inside. And so they would find a formation or build a formation where they rolled it. It would also be pressed against another rock. So when they rolled it in place, you can only open it from the inside.

[Kelsey]

Wow.

[Andy]

So when they had people coming in, not only was it very narrow, you couldn't get in there to barricade that door and you know, break it down. You're. It's a one person tunnel.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

At that point, very narrow, shuts it down. And then if you get, do get past that, they have hundreds of other doors that they can hide behind. It was just.

[Andrew]

It's like a modern submarine. Like how they do like water lockout.

[Andy]

Yeah, absolutely. And they. Yeah. So when whole villages would go down to there, there were several entrances that they found that existed in houses, in barns and in churches. And so there was a bunch of entrances all over the place that they had no idea. It's still not all discovered. They asked like, where did the rocks go? Like, because it was like volcanic rock. It's like this. I mean, they said it's millions of cubic feet of volcanic rock and it's like there's no spoil pile excavated.

[Andrew]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andy]

It's like, where did that go? How did they use that? What did they do? I mean, that just goes to show like from 18th century, 8th century. It's like they, how they used all that stuff. It blows your mind.

[Josh]

Well, did you. So I think Graham Hancock did an episode on this, on his ancient apocalypse. And I don't know if it was on that, but one theory is that this was actually made pre flood, so there's no way a safe haven for the flood. And it's. You can go back to the Gobekli Tepe to where it's like. It kind of shows, like, there's a flood narrative on these stones.

[Kelsey]

Wow.

[Josh]

So it's almost like they knew of the flood or it could have been after the flood.

[Andy]

Just in case.

[Josh]

And just in case, let's build this city.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Kelsey]

And so it's very, very old.

[Josh]

Yeah. So like the excavated rock they believe was actually potentially washed away in a flood.

[Andy]

Yeah. I mean. Yeah. You know, I mean, there's so many possibilities, I think.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

No scientists or archeologists know exactly who built it.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Why it was. Exactly.

[Andrew]

I wonder if there's any big rooms, like, anything that would be like, this room was meant for someone more important or someone larger. Like a flood narrative.

[Andy]

Yeah. They had one of those barrel roof rooms, which is crazy. Like, for like their church and stuff. Like, it's just that one shot of just that massive. You think everything's just gonna be a tunnel, but it's like. No. Like, they have. It was like a city.

[Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Like, you could be standing on a deck and you could see other people in their house, like rooms or something. Like, it just.

[Josh]

It's crazy.

[Andy]

It blows my mind.

[Josh]

Yeah. The cool thing too is like, they. The ventilation was so good. You could have fires in every room.

[Kelsey]

Oh, my God.

[Josh]

Die. Because the ventilation. It's like, how do they figure that? Like, that is like seriously like some pre flood.

[Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Technology.

[Andy]

The experts don't even understand how they did it. Like, how it were all worked. Like, because some of their ventilation wells were actually full on wells. Water wells as well.

[Kelsey]

Oh, my goodness.

[Andy]

It just. They thought of everything. They thought of everything.

[Andrew]

I'm taking it on a hard turn, but have you seen that same sort of tech, how they believe that the ark may have been ventilating? Like the smells and stuff. There's a design where it's not meant to go anywhere. But the center of the ark would have had a hole like a port. And so as. As the sea, it actually pumps oxygen.

[Andy]

Vacuum.

[Andrew]

Yeah. It pushes and draws.

[Andy]

That'd be so cool.

[Andrew]

But. But that would have been. If this is the same timeline, that would have been like tech that possibly

[Josh]

existed just as knowledge. I mean, it would make sense a little bit because it's like that knowledge would have been closer to like the watcher's knowledge. Right. So it's like, that's the thing.

[Andrew]

He was righteous. That words debated Noah referring to, like, is it. Is it him? Himself. Well, no, none are righteous. So that's a bad take on what that means Biblically. So can mean pure in his bloodline. Yeah. And so that actually makes more sense with the gen 6 narrative and all of that. But I think. I think it's so cool to think of what else existed in the world, because if you accept the Genesis. Genesis 6 narrative, you accept the flood, and then you believe that all these other peoples all around the world had that narrative. You have to start. Start wondering. I mean, Noah's talking about the flood coming for a while. Yeah. Right. And if the watchers and, you know, the Nephilim, like, knew all of this stuff that Noah was doing actually was rooted, maybe their followers didn't, but they had to know. So what are they doing in preparation for what's coming?

[Kelsey]

No, totally.

[Andrew]

Yeah. For. Got to be more stuff out there to find.

[Josh]

Yeah. I mean, you think about that, too. That was discovered in the 1960s.

[Andy]

Yeah. And that's. That's the kind of the weird thing where, like, rediscovered.

[Andrew]

I should say.

[Andy]

They probably were using it. I mean, people estimate they probably were using it in the 18th century. We don't know, though.

[Josh]

Like, we don't know, but imagine what other stuff is out there.

[Andy]

I promise you, dude, that's. That's the key is that we find underground cities and ancient civilizations like this. We look in the Amazon, we find all these weird roads. We find Roman roads that we're still discovering. We find underwater roads like the Bimney Road. We find this in 1960. What else is hiding and that? We don't know.

[Andrew]

And where do you have LIDAR radar? Ground penetrating radar. So who's to say, like, all these weird. We've talked about, like, freaking helicopters are flying over what's going on in central Florida right now. Who's to say they're not going, like. Yeah, we're just checking. Aquifers drying up. We're looking for spots.

[Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Did you just hear about that explosion off the coast?

[Andrew]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Josh]

Do you know anything about it?

[Andrew]

No, just.

[Josh]

Do you see that? It was last week when we were at the beach.

[Kelsey]

Oh, yeah.

[Josh]

And I saw in the news it said magnitude 3 point something off in the Atlantic, but it was due to, they said, an experimental explosion.

[Andy]

What?

[Kelsey]

No, they were intercepting a bomb, dude.

[Andrew]

Could be.

[Andy]

You think?

[Kelsey]

I don't know.

[Josh]

Not that far off the coast. And I remember we were sitting. I look in the pool or something and I. I swear to you, I heard like a boom.

[Andrew]

I'm like, was that thunder?

[Kelsey]

Yeah, I know. I Remember hearing it too. Back to discovering tunnels. This is ninjas or butterflies asking you to tear down a wall in your basement. If you have a basement, just check it out. Knock down your walls.

[Josh]

Just do it.

[Andrew]

Crawl spaces are underutilized. I've wondered.

[Andy]

John Wayne Gacy, barf.

[Andrew]

Yeah, maybe I don't want to go the direction I was starting to go.

[Andy]

Oh, that's what he thought, too. I could fit 33 kids bodies down here.

[Josh]

Oh, no.

[Andy]

Hey, it's just a fact. All right. Did you guys speak of intercepting bombs? You hear Elon Musk's SpaceX deal?

[Andrew]

No.

[Kelsey]

No. What's he doing?

[Andy]

4.16 billion dollar deal to develop a satellite constellation designed to track airborne and hypersonic threats that just released this week. That crazy? I don't know what that means.

[Josh]

How much?

[Andy]

4.4.16 billion.

[Kelsey]

Dang, that sounds like just valuable though.

[Andrew]

They're making up numbers.

[Kelsey]

Valuable, are we?

[Andy]

Wait, okay, wait. The U.S. space Force awarded Elon Musk SpaceX a $4.16 billion deal to develop a space constellation designed to track airborne hypersonic threats. Additionally, SpaceX secured a 2.29 billion contract to build a high speed secure satellite communications network that connects global military sensors and weapon platforms.

[Andrew]

Wow. I'm glad a lot of billion. I'm glad a lot of billion nothing like AI exists that can like, hack into stuff.

[Kelsey]

I know. Yeah, true. That would be scary.

[Andy]

Would that be a theory where it's like AI hacked it? Like China's AI hacked it and that's why, you know, certain things went, you know, awry.

[Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Even though it was us.

[Andrew]

Oh, yeah.

[Kelsey]

No, 100%. Yeah. How much of that is happening? Probably a lot of that.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Think about how easy conquering us just became though, like before it was like, you know, you hear the thing about hunters. It's like we all hide up in trees all hunting season long for fun. So, like come and take us. When it was like man on man, but now that it's a race to. For like monitoring the population.

[Kelsey]

Oh my gosh.

[Andrew]

Well, here you go. All you need is superior AI and we've laid out the entire infrastructure all over our country.

[Kelsey]

No, 100. And that's the whole argument, like, why civilians are like, why is AI our priority? It's like, because somebody else is going to get that technology first.

[Andrew]

That means to win, all you need to do is win the control room.

[Kelsey]

Yeah. No, but it's literally. It's literally like Oppenheimer, what's going on with AI? It's so Spooky.

[Andy]

Whenever China takes over, you know, Andrew's gonna be pulling his ancestry out real quick.

[Kelsey]

Oh, dude. I know.

[Andy]

I'm 1%.

[Andrew]

I want to. I want to literally just immediate put. Immediately put on a pot of rice and just. Just go all in.

[Kelsey]

Yeah. So with Jamie, I was like, no, Iran's not going to bomb us. I'm like, the real thing to be scared of is if China and Russia team up with Iran. She said, is that going to happen? I was like, I don't know, man.

[Josh]

Russia.

[Andy]

Oh.

[Andrew]

Iran was trying to, though, watching that. Trust us, that is. That is the thing.

[Kelsey]

Watching that FDR documentary, though, made me feel so vulnerable because our whole narrative in history is like, our history classes here in America is like, we are the superpower. We very recently became the superpower. And the fragility of that feels so real because it was just. We literally were like a nothing nation until FDR was like, here are my

[Josh]

ideas for the most part.

[Kelsey]

Yeah, that was recent.

[Josh]

Yeah, we were pretty, like, not involved in world politics. Politics, yeah.

[Kelsey]

Geopolitics.

[Josh]

Geopolitics.

[Andy]

There's a paradise, man.

[Josh]

Well, speaking of Elon Musk, did you hear that he offered to pay Mel Gibson or give him a budget of $100 million to do the Odyssey? But historically accurate and true to.

[Kelsey]

Yeah, I heard that. He was like, the leading voice against a lot of the things that.

[Josh]

Which is silly. I mean, it was a great movie.

[Andrew]

A lot of people just 100 million.

[Josh]

100 million budget. But Christopher Nolan's was 250.

[Andy]

Yeah, dude, crank it up to 500 million. He'll do it.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Why would you do 100 million is nothing to you doing.

[Kelsey]

I appreciate him approaching Mel Gibson.

[Andrew]

Oh, yeah.

[Josh]

Oh, he didn't approach it. Someone did a thing like, Elon, would you pay Mel Gibson 100 million to recreate this? And Elon's like, yeah, I'll do that.

[Andy]

Would that. Dude, I'm telling you, a Mel Gibson historically accurate version would go so horror.

[Andrew]

I'm still excited for his next film.

[Andy]

Oh, yeah. Next year, right? Next spring, like.

[Josh]

Or whatever.

[Andrew]

The continuation.

[Andy]

Resurrection.

[Josh]

Yeah, Resurrection.

[Andy]

That one's going to be great.

[Josh]

He's one of the best storytellers out there.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Kelsey]

Amazing.

[Josh]

Apocalypto, dude.

[Andy]

Apocalyptoart.

[Andrew]

Patriot. Freaking hard to watch now.

[Kelsey]

Oh, having a son. Yeah.

[Andrew]

I watched a couple scenes and it freaking wrecked me.

[Kelsey]

Papa. Papa.

[Andy]

You quoted that for years before I watched that movie, and that ruined. I knew it was coming. I was like, oh, no, she's gonna speak she's gonna speak so good. Oh, you want me to go into the universe 25 or save her for patriot.

[Josh]

No, do it. I want to hear it.

[Andy]

Okay, this is.

[Josh]

You got all the good stories today.

[Andy]

I dove yesterday.

[Kelsey]

Dude.

[Andy]

All right, so this is called the Universe 25 experiment. All right, this happened in 19, 1968. Behavioral scientist John Calhoun wanted to answer one question. What happens when every survival problem disappears? Like, he just wanted to see what that would look like, you know, food, water.

[Kelsey]

I think about this all the time. I think about this all the time.

[Andy]

Everything existed.

[Kelsey]

Antibiotics.

[Andy]

Antibiotics.

[Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Okay.

[Kelsey]

That's huge. I mean, people were dying Left and right 100 years ago.

[Josh]

Jane would have been dead a long time ago.

[Kelsey]

Don't even say it out loud. Oh, my gosh.

[Josh]

She is our fragile child.

[Kelsey]

She is fragile. So not in spirit. Continue.

[Andy]

He built Universe 25, basically a mouse's paradise. All right, so he got a bunch of mice. Actually not that many mice at the beginning. So he had unlimited food for them, unlimited water, perfect temperatures, no predators, no disease. So I'm sure there was some type of. Of antibiotics or something that was happening. Plenty of room, plenty of space, and it could hold. Yeah, a utopia for mice. And it could hold up to 3,000 mice.

[Kelsey]

I feel like I know what you're gonna.

[Andy]

So phase one, paradise. He released just eight healthy mice. So four breeding partners, pairs. They explored. They claimed territory. They started families. It's beautiful. The population doubled about every 55 days.

[Kelsey]

Okay, we're living. Which is a generation for mice. Yeah, Right. Okay.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

We're living.

[Andy]

We're dreaming. We're having a good time. Phase two, something weird happens.

[Kelsey]

Tell me.

[Andy]

Even though there was a ton of space, mice started congregating in communities and would not reach out, would not leave their space. There was tons of empty space. The mice chose to crowd together in the same areas. They all wanted to eat together instead of spreading out. Then birth started dropping. The birth rate started slowly dropping. Phase three. These are all like his notes. The society breaks down. Dominant males become incredibly violent and aggressive

[Josh]

without changing the environment.

[Andy]

Nothing. Unlimited food, unlimited water, perfect temperature. Everything is exactly the same.

[Kelsey]

Comfortability.

[Andy]

Dominant males become violently aggressive for no reason. Weak males give up completely. Mothers start abandoning and even attacking their own babies. In some nests, over 90% of newborns were dying. Some mice even started becoming cannibals.

[Josh]

What?

[Andy]

Eating each other even though they had food. Even though they have unlimited food. Phase four, the beautiful ones is what he's coined as. Coined these mice, which I don't know why. A Strange new group of mice appeared in his notes. Calhoun called them the Beautiful Ones. They stopped fighting, they stopped mating, they stopped interacting with any other mice. They spent every day eating, sleeping and drinking and obsessively grooming themselves. They were the best looking mice. They looked perfect. But they had literally nothing to do. No purpose whatsoever. They did nothing except for clean themselves. Weird.

[Kelsey]

Well, now I know why he called them the Beautiful Ones. Andy, you said you don't know why.

[Andy]

Well, I'm saying. But they're also dying inside. So that's like the saddest thing in the world. Phase one, the end. The last baby mouse was born on day 920.

[Kelsey]

Wow.

[Andy]

Population peaked around 2, 2, 200 mice, well below the enclosures capacity. There was still endless food, endless water, plenty of space. But no one reproduced anymore. And one by one, every single mouse died.

[Josh]

What the heck?

[Kelsey]

So they stopped eating you said? Or they, they continued eating.

[Josh]

They just died.

[Kelsey]

They died of old age.

[Andy]

Yeah. Or yeah, despite old age. Yeah, they just didn't want to reproduce. Some chose not to eat, some like, it's just weird.

[Kelsey]

Oh my gosh, this is, this is creating a neuropathway in my mind.

[Andy]

And Calhoun removed some of the Beautiful Ones and placed them into a brand new paradise. A brand new setting, fresh territory, second chance. And they still refused to mate or socialize.

[Kelsey]

Oh my gosh.

[Andy]

They simply just lived alone until they died.

[Kelsey]

Dude, Dude.

[Josh]

Do you know this reminds me. Oh, keep it.

[Andy]

Calhoun called the the collapse. A behavioral sink is what he coined it as he believed that when social roles and purpose disappear, a society can begin to collapse even if material needs are fully met.

[Kelsey]

Oh my God.

[Josh]

Do you know what this reminds me of?

[Andy]

What?

[Josh]

What Elon had been talking about on Joe Rogan with AI taking the jobs of everyone to where we don't have to work anymore and we won't have to worry anymore. In fact, we'll just start getting paychecks where we can just do whatever we want. But there's no purpose.

[Andy]

Yeah, it removes our purpose.

[Kelsey]

But that's what his challenge, that's what his challenge was though too was the hard part will be finding our interests again. And like you just kind of, you gotta labor.

[Josh]

We're meant to survive, like you know, but also community.

[Andrew]

Tell me, tell me.

[Andy]

Like they, they instantly in like instinctively started eating in groups in communities. And they were healthy and happy at first, like, but it's when they started isolating themselves and they just started dying and like they lost it.

[Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

The death of social roles though, like not to use the buzzword. But like, I think of the whole, like, feministic movement.

[Kelsey]

You're so right. Yeah.

[Andrew]

I mean, like, I mean, it just.

[Kelsey]

Second wave feminism.

[Andrew]

I mean, I don't know the difference between the waves, but.

[Kelsey]

No, but you're right.

[Andrew]

Okay. I was like, are you disagreeing?

[Josh]

Well, the first wave of feminism was

[Kelsey]

like, well, like the right to vote and like, yeah, if I want to go to do something, I can do it. Second wave feminism is government propaganda, a lie to us all, which is like, basically what the government wanted was to tax dual income households.

[Andrew]

Yeah. But even, but even, like the entire idea of like, that it makes a woman less. To do a job.

[Kelsey]

Yeah. Or to stay at home and like. Yeah.

[Andy]

Or to need a man. Like, to be honest, like, we're just like, you don't need a man. It's like, no, she doesn't need a man, but she should want.

[Kelsey]

Yeah. Partnership, have a partner.

[Andy]

That's like, I am her, she is mine. Like, that's the whole point.

[Andrew]

Because, because if the, if the goal is survival, it's truth. Like, I do not need my wife to survive. As in like eat and breathe and exist. She doesn't need me. But you know, to build a family, to like create this environment of exponential joy, she's completely important to that. And I am completely important to it for her.

[Josh]

A reduced joy.

[Andrew]

Right, Right. But it's like, it's like kind of how they play, the semantics of it. It's like, you don't need it. Well, I mean, you won't die tomorrow if you don't have a husband or you don't have a wife. But like, you really do need to be in relationship, to be in community and to depend on people. Like, it's a healthy thing to need somebody.

[Andy]

People in. I only like solitary confinement. They don't need other people to survive.

[Kelsey]

Right.

[Andy]

Yeah, but it would help.

[Kelsey]

Yeah. Yeah. I think that this is particularly spooky and timely for this story. You've given us this scientific experiment because of the condition of our nation right now and other developed nations. Because this is really only happening in developed nations. Right. Because everywhere else they still, they still get it. We've lost the plot over here. And it's making me think of our young men, our young, socially detached young men who have all of their needs available to them. They don't even need to go find a woman because they got their phones. You know what I'm saying? They. They aren't motivated to get jobs. They're not motivated to keep up with friends and it's sad and it's spooky. And they're like these little rats.

[Andy]

So send them to war.

[Kelsey]

That's why they need. We need a draft. No, no, I'm kidding. But like, I agree, like, you have to toil with your hands.

[Josh]

You know, a lot of the early church fathers, too, talked about the importance of manual labor.

[Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Of just like, even like overcoming, like, sin and temptations and stuff. They're like, get out there and start shoveling.

[Kelsey]

Yeah. There's that one video which we told Jake about that's really good on the Harmony Channel. And it's how the early church fathers fought demons. That's the video that it's called.

[Andrew]

Very good.

[Kelsey]

And they go through like. They go through like the major sins and one of them is depression and melancholy. And if you are a depressive person, it's like literally go outside and dig a hole.

[Andy]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

When I. When I think of some of my.

[Josh]

Like, depression is a sin. It can occur.

[Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Josh]

But it's like, it's not of God. Depression is not of God.

[Kelsey]

Correct.

[Andy]

And the enemy can use that.

[Kelsey]

Yes.

[Andy]

Shame, depression, all that. Like, to hold that over you. To.

[Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Keep you away from what, Doing God's will.

[Andrew]

Some of the, like, least depressed people I've ever known are some of the people who have the least. And I think it's really interesting too, like when you look at like, consumption, like people who have. It can be phone. Right. I have consumed too much in my idle time. Or it can be substance, like diet.

[Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Like, over consumption can lead to depression. And it's almost like the devil's smart in how he lays out this path to. To. I don't know what the word I'm looking for is, but to just this depressed state.

[Kelsey]

No, you're so right.

[Andrew]

Apathy. That's the word I'm looking for.

[Kelsey]

I. I'm reading about. It's the way of the pilgrim and it's talking about unceasing prayer. What did God. What did Christ mean when he said unceasing prayer? Or it was Paul.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Kelsey]

Pray unceasingly. And his prescription in the orthodox faith prescription of it is pray the Jesus prayer and begin. Even if you do not have the right heart, posture and mindset because it becomes the discipline. And then you end up praying unceasingly. Right. And it can be whatever that is to you. But it also talked about in those ways when you are trying to temper your spirit, when you are trying to, like, get yourself into that headspace, also tempering the body first through fasting and all of those things. And so God gives us the blueprint on how to do it. But in our nation right now, in our culture, it is what you're saying. So over consumption, access to everything. And that's why I deleted TikTok, because I don't like the way I'm thinking these days. I'm like a robot sheeple.

[Andy]

I know. I've put down my phone for the past, like, couple of weeks. It's just been. I'm just literally drawing again. Like, just something simple as, like, just getting a sketchbook and just drawing on the couch while the girls are playing or reading a book. And it's like. It just helps.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Just got to figure out your thing and push yourself. I was in a tired mood the other day. Then I had to go mow a lawn and honestly felt great after mowing the lawn.

[Kelsey]

Were you grouchy?

[Andy]

No, I was grouchy on the way there because it was just.

[Andrew]

Just.

[Andy]

I don't want to mow a lawn.

[Andrew]

It sounds crazy, but it works.

[Andy]

Yeah, it's just being outside, sweating. Get it? Like, just. You don't realize. Just, like, because your body, everything in your body says, don't stay. You're fine, you're comfortable. And it's like, you gotta fight that.

[Kelsey]

But there was another thing. There was another thing in addition to what you're saying. You went out to go mow a lawn, and it was that physical act of doing it, but you were also being in service to others because you were mowing someone else's lawn for free for them. And that act of. Of service, I just took away your reward in heaven, by the way, by calling you out.

[Andrew]

I don't think you did.

[Andy]

Everyone gets it.

[Kelsey]

But what I'm saying is serving others, dying to yourself, make yourself uncomfortable. I'm saying this as a complete hypocrite, because I'm not doing it enough.

[Andy]

But it's a daily thing. It's a daily walk. It's daily bread. Deny yourself today, don't worry about tomorrow. Don't stress, like, oh, I gotta do this tomorrow, and then we have to just do it today. You already screwed up. Guess what? You still have the rest of the day left.

[Andrew]

It's so hard to do, though. Like, the. It's better to serve others, you know? And, like, I think about how much money I blow on it.

[Kelsey]

Like Amazon and this new truck you want to buy.

[Josh]

Yeah,

[Andrew]

no, I need to be able to bring Noah around. That's what I want to do.

[Kelsey]

Yeah, I get it. True.

[Andy]

But, yeah, not come to be served, but to serve.

[Kelsey]

Yeah, dude.

[Andy]

Jesus words.

[Andrew]

And Matt Chandler's quote, like, pour yourself out. You're not meant to have energy. At the end of the day, freaking hits hard.

[Andy]

Too much energy. Dads are going to be.

[Andrew]

Yeah. He said, if you're going to bed with energy, you're doing it wrong. Wrong. And I was like, shoot. Like I know it. Yeah. Well, speaking of energy, Paige to watch Noah and I just do push ups.

[Josh]

There you go.

[Kelsey]

Good idea. Yeah, that's a way.

[Josh]

Speaking of energy, we got an episode right after this on patreon.com forward/ninjas or butterflies, people. Or on our YouTube membership.

[Andy]

Yep. Yeah.

[Josh]

And we got some things to talk about. I have had this story, three stories on my notes for the past two episodes. I haven't even talked about them, but they're awesome. They're like, I think some of the greatest hoaxes ever performed.

[Andrew]

Let's go.

[Andy]

I love that.

[Josh]

Very fun.

[Andy]

Love me a hoax.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Andy]

Awesome. Perfect.

[Josh]

So, yeah, we got some stuff, fun stuff.

[Andrew]

You'll see.

[Josh]

Just go to patreon.com forward/ninja butterflies or join our YouTube membership.

[Andy]

Thank you. And if you want some ninja Swag, go to sundaycoolswag.com we have hats, shirts, socks, box, all of it. Y'. All. We got. I'm sure we got some new shirts coming out, don't we? Soon.

[Josh]

Yes.

[Andy]

In the future. Yeah. I want to do a Halloween shirt this year. Dude, I know. We gotta get on it right now.

[Kelsey]

Me too. And I want it to be. I want to pick it. Can I pick it?

[Andy]

Fine.

[Josh]

Fine. Also, next week we have a guest and I'm so excited about. It has a lot to do with aliens and a lot to do with disclosure.

[Andrew]

And it is.

[Andy]

You're gonna like it.

[Andrew]

La Marzulli.

[Josh]

It is not La Marzulli. It is someone else.

[Andrew]

We told them he was coming.

[Josh]

Oh, we did?

[Andrew]

Yeah, we met. Oh.

[Josh]

Well, he had to cancel because LA

[Andrew]

is a busy guy.

[Josh]

He's coming on in the near future. But this other gentleman. Very excited about this episode and it's gonna be awesome.

[Andy]

Yeah. Pull on your butts next week, folks. We love you.

[Josh]

Love you. Bye.

[Andrew]

Bye.

[Andy]

Thank you so much. Dolphin.

[Kelsey]

What you're about to see. Wow. May disturb you nominal.

[Andy]

If any of you know what these

[Andrew]

multi decade UAP dolphins are.

[Andy]

Aliens.

[Josh]

Bottle nose fish.

[Andrew]

Pigs.

[Andy]

There's a massive police response Dolphin style attack.

[Josh]

Long episode a.

[Andrew]

It.