1738 - "Swasticars"

Summary

Podcast Summary: No Agenda Episode 1738 - "Swasticars"

Release Date: February 13, 2025

Hosts: Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak
Description: Deconstructing Media with No Agenda, hosted by Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak.

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1. Confirmation of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as Director of Health and Human Services

The episode opens with breaking news regarding the confirmation of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as the Director of Health and Human Services (HHS). The vote concluded with a narrow 52-48 margin, largely falling along party lines.

• John C. Dvorak [00:36]: "The President's pick for Director of Health and Human Services, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., has officially just been confirmed."

• Adam Curry [00:58]: "Big pharma screwed the pooch."

The hosts express skepticism about Kennedy's appointment, attributing his defeat of Republicans to personal animosity rather than policy disagreements.

• Adam Curry [01:10]: "He's a jerk. He always has been."

2. Confirmation of Tulsi Gabbard as Director of National Intelligence

Tulsi Gabbard's confirmation as the Director of National Intelligence (DNI) is another focal point. Her appointment faced significant opposition, including from Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell.

• Caller/Guest [09:58]: "Tulsi Gabbard was confirmed after 30 hours of debate, with 52 votes in favor and 48 against."

The hosts critique the partisan struggle surrounding her confirmation and express doubts about her capability to lead the intelligence community effectively.

• John C. Dvorak [11:15]: "She’s someone who's motivated by service... but her nomination is simply one of those very bad choices for America."

3. Super Bowl Predictions and Analysis

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to discussing the Super Bowl, with the hosts sharing their predictions and reactions to the event.

• Adam Curry [25:27]: "We called it again. One of the things we do."

They analyze the game's outcome, specifically highlighting the strategies employed by the teams and the performance of key players like Saquon Barkley and Patrick Mahomes.

• John C. Dvorak [32:03]: "They spent all their efforts on that one guy, and in the process, they lost the game hugely."

4. President Trump's Plans for Gaza and the Palestinian Displacement

A contentious topic discussed is President Trump's proposal to take control of Gaza, which involves the forced relocation of Palestinians to nearby countries.

• Caller/Guest [34:50]: "It's a war-torn area. We're going to take it under the US Authority."

• John C. Dvorak [35:01]: "Trump's plan would require the forced relocation of 2 million Palestinians, which is not being well received."

The hosts debate the feasibility and ethical implications of such a plan, questioning the authority under which the US could execute it and the potential backlash from international allies like Jordan and Egypt.

• Adam Curry [36:55]: "I think the whole thing is bullshit."

5. Greenland's Geostrategic Importance and US Consideration to Acquire

The discussion shifts to the strategic significance of Greenland, emphasizing its vast reserves of rare earth elements and its proximity to critical Arctic sea lanes.

• Caller/Guest [74:20]: "Serious discussion is underway for the United States to buy Greenland."

• John C. Dvorak [75:54]: "Greenland sits atop vast reserves of rare earth elements, materials critical for everything from technology to national defense."

The hosts express skepticism about the likelihood of the US purchasing Greenland, suggesting alternative approaches like the Compact of Free Association.

• Adam Curry [76:58]: "But that could happen and that would be the solution to the problem."

6. Justice Department’s Actions and Political Implications

The episode covers the Justice Department's decision to drop corruption cases against figures like New York City Mayor Eric Adams, citing political motivations tied to alignment with President Trump's immigration policies.

• Caller/Guest [101:13]: "The memo is saying that it's time to address how the DOJ is weaponizing the Justice Department."

• Adam Curry [103:05]: "This has been dragging on for years."

The hosts critique the politicization of legal actions, highlighting the strained relationship between federal authorities and local officials who resist sanctuary city policies.

7. Impact of Reduced Vaccination Rates and Health Concerns

Health issues arising from declining vaccination rates are discussed, including measles outbreaks and potential long-term consequences.

• Caller/Guest [163:38]: "What does it mean if these rates continue to go down?"

• John C. Dvorak [165:46]: "It means increased numbers of children infected."

The hosts emphasize the dangers of low vaccination rates and the resurgence of vaccine-preventable diseases.

• Adam Curry [167:20]: "If they're safe and effective."

8. Anthony Fauci’s Legal Troubles Post-Pardon

Anthony Fauci, despite receiving a presidential pardon, faces investigations from Republican state attorneys general regarding his management of the COVID-19 pandemic.

• Caller/Guest [170:21]: "They are shutting down schools, they shut down businesses."

• Adam Curry [171:20]: "They can twist it around that maybe... yes."

The hosts discuss the implications of such legal actions and the ongoing scrutiny Fauci faces despite the pardon.

9. Donations, Meetups, and Community Engagement

Towards the end of the episode, the focus shifts to community interactions, donations, and the importance of supporting the "No Agenda" podcast. The hosts acknowledge various donors and discuss the logistics of podcast meetups, emphasizing the show's grassroots support system.

• Adam Curry [117:23]: "If you want to participate in this fabulous contest, go to noagendaartgenerator.com."

• John C. Dvorak [150:31]: "Thank you all for supporting the best podcast in the universe."

10. Season of Reveal and AI Manipulation Concerns

In a playful yet critical segment, the hosts introduce the "Season of Reveal," discussing the potential manipulations of artificial intelligence in media portrayals and public perception.

• Adam Curry [193:00]: "If you look into things like gender studies... you can check and see when a popular term came into being."

• John C. Dvorak [194:43]: "It will be revealed."

They express concerns about AI's role in shaping narratives and the authenticity of media content.

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Notable Quotes:

• John C. Dvorak [00:36]: "The President's pick for Director of Health and Human Services, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., has officially just been confirmed."

• Adam Curry [01:10]: "He's a jerk. He always has been."

• Caller/Guest [09:58]: "Tulsi Gabbard was confirmed after 30 hours of debate, with 52 votes in favor and 48 against."

• John C. Dvorak [35:01]: "Trump's plan would require the forced relocation of 2 million Palestinians, which is not being well received."

• Adam Curry [36:55]: "I think the whole thing is bullshit."

• John C. Dvorak [165:46]: "It means increased numbers of children infected."

• Adam Curry [167:20]: "If they're safe and effective."

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Concluding Thoughts:

Episode 1738 of "No Agenda" delves deep into significant political developments, questioning the motivations and implications behind high-profile appointments and controversial policies. The hosts maintain a critical stance, emphasizing skepticism about governmental actions and the influence of big industries like pharmaceuticals. Community engagement through donations and meetups underscores the show's reliance on grassroots support, while segments like the "Season of Reveal" highlight concerns about AI and media manipulation.

Listeners are encouraged to stay informed, support independent media, and engage critically with the information presented by mainstream sources.

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Note: The timestamps correspond to the provided transcript and are indicative of where each quote and topic appear within the episode.

Transcript

[Adam Curry]

Please send help. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's Thursday, February 13, 2025. This is your award winning Gibbonation Media Assassination episode 1738.

[Adam Curry]

This is no agenda.

[John C. Dvorak]

Predicting sportsball scores for 17 years and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill country here in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody.

[Adam Curry]

I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley, where there's now a Kennedy in a Republican administration. What? I'm John Cdmor. Craig Vaughn, Buzz kill.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's right. Breaking news at this hour.

[Caller/Guest]

All right. The President's pick for Director of Health and Human Services, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Has officially just been confirmed. The final was 52 to 48. It fell pretty much down party lines, as expected.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it was not expected. There was a lot of consternation. People like, I don't know. I don't know. Big pharma won't let him in.

[Adam Curry]

Well, big pharma, something happened. They screwed the pooch. The only one, of course, that voted against him, who's voted against every Trump appointee as Mitch McConnell, the turtle.

[John C. Dvorak]

Why do you think he voted against all of the nominees?

[Adam Curry]

He's a jerk. He always has been.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I guess.

[Adam Curry]

What else could it be?

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know. I don't know.

[Adam Curry]

Not much of a Republican, I guess.

[John C. Dvorak]

They don't have.

[Adam Curry]

Kentucky should have voted him out. And he's got brain freeze. He's got something wrong with him.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'll say.

[Adam Curry]

Brain damage.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's a brain freeze moment of him almost every single day.

[Adam Curry]

Can you dig up the three clips that I asked you for the other day?

[John C. Dvorak]

Sure.

[Adam Curry]

The Kennedy clips. And this is the thing. I'm gonna write this up as one of the columns. I do.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Because I want to. He's okay. He got in. Big talker, you know, he's gonna do this, he's gonna do that. And everybody's jacked up about it. I mean, people who care about health.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And the big pharma and all the issues that we have in this country. And so he made some promises.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. I want to start with the first one, I think.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. And I want to just mention that we documented this some time ago. I am now going to. I think we should hold them accountable and make sure that these promises are noted.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. Promises made, promises kept. The first one, pharma advertising. I'm not intimidated by the agencies. I know how they work and I know how to change them. And most of those changes, you do not need Congress for the president. President Trump could have done it. Had the power to do it himself.

[Adam Curry]

And President Biden has the power to do it himself.

[John C. Dvorak]

And I'll give you an example. With a stroke of the pen, you can change back the rule that allows pharmaceutical advertisers to do direct to consumer ads on television. That's one of the big problem. That's why one of the reasons we have this in trans agency capture, not only of Congress, because they control the airwaves, they control the evening news. 75% of the revenues for those evening news shows are, you know, Anderson Cooper is coming from Pfizer and other pharmaceutical companies. So. And those companies are dictating content on those shows and they dictate the official narratives and they're able then to exercise huge control over Congress. So Congress is terrified of them. But with a stroke of the pen, you can say this is not good for the health of our country, which it isn't. We spend three times more than any other country for pharmaceutical drugs because of all this advertising. Stroke of the pen.

[Adam Curry]

I should mention something that you was thinking about, which is that these, you know how they make a big deal, don't. You can't give medical advice. You can't do this because, like, you know, yes, I don't know if it's illegal or I don't know what the deal is, but you can't be like a podcast or saying. And then, then when you do that, you shouldn't be. You can't give medical advice. You can't. With the stock market, for example, you can't.

[John C. Dvorak]

You should. I think it's. You shouldn't. I don't know if you can.

[Adam Curry]

I should think that. I don't know. I think there's rule or law or some, some code violation if you do it. But these advertisements, that's all they do.

[John C. Dvorak]

I would say in this administration you can do pretty much whatever you want. You know, say what you want. You could, you can have your kid picking his nose on TV and rubbing it on the, on the Resolute desk. I mean, you can do anything you want these days. Great. What a time to be alive. Did you not see that?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I didn't see the nose picking thing, but that's a surprise.

[John C. Dvorak]

You rubbed it on the desk.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, that kid is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, is that the X kid?

[Adam Curry]

That's X, Yeah. All right. Okay. So that's what Kennedy. Okay, that has to go. And I agree with that because that will change the media landscape completely.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, it would bankrupt him. What will they do?

[Adam Curry]

Well, I think a lot of. Well, no, that. What Will they do? They'll have to actually do their job and get real advertisers. They have to do. Do it the old fashioned way.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Back to back, sitting there, taking orders over the phone.

[John C. Dvorak]

Back to beer, boobs and bikinis. Come on, people.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, so that's one. That's clip one. Let's go with clip two.

[John C. Dvorak]

Open the databases. Another thing that I can do is I can open up all the databases right now. All the databases that you can actually check the efficacy and the safety of vaccines. Like the vaccine safety database. It's the, you know, it's the top. It's all the vaccine records and the medical claims for 10 million Americans from the top 10 HMOs. Well, you can look in there and overnight you can say, oh, this vaccine is associated with diabetes. This one's associated with peanut allergies. This one's associated with asd, neurological tics or whatever. That database, CDC keeps it in a lockbox like Fort Knox and make sure no scientist is allowed in there. Well, I'll open up that database on day one. Yeah, this is my favorite because I get to find out why I have neurological tics and I can sue somebody over.

[Adam Curry]

Might be a little late. What's it called?

[John C. Dvorak]

Statute of limitations.

[Adam Curry]

You may have a statute of limitations issue. It's also in Holland. I think you got this shot that gave you the Tourette's.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I think it was seven. I think it's just before we left, actually. I may be in luck.

[Adam Curry]

You might.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'll sue him anyway.

[Adam Curry]

That's going to be a tough one. I mean, hey, I have robbed the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Constitutional lawyer on my side. I'm not worried.

[Adam Curry]

Good luck.

[John C. Dvorak]

He'll make it. Won't cost me anything.

[Adam Curry]

Well, there's that. Yeah. And so there's. So he's going to open the database on day one. That means today. I don't think. You know. Okay, well, maybe not today, but as soon as he gets his office cleared out or cleared in. Okay, now here's the last one, Rico.

[John C. Dvorak]

And you know, I'll also. I'll bring all the medical journals, the New England Journal of Medicine, the Lancet, jama, into the Justice Department as soon as I appoint an ag. And I'll say to them, you guys are part of a racketeering syndicate. You're collaborating with these pharmaceutical industry lie to the American public about the efficacy and safety of these products, and you're causing enormous harm. And we are going to sue you both civilly for damages. And we're going to sue you criminally unless you come up with a plan.

[Caller/Guest]

Right now as to how you're going to stop doing that.

[John C. Dvorak]

So I have, like, I have 100 things that I'm going to do immediately.

[Adam Curry]

Hundred.

[John C. Dvorak]

100 things. That's 97 more to go. I can't wait.

[Adam Curry]

He's got 100 things. I'm sure there's a number of issues in there, including, I think, the liability thing. That's got to go.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, the. You mean the vaccine shield law.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, the vaccine shield law. So you can make a crap. You could basically put dog shit in a vaccine. And we did have a similar situation, if you remember the swine flu episode. Episode episodic era, where people were lined up for the swine flu shot and one of the providers of the swine flu shot was putting live viruses in the shot.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah. What could possibly go wrong?

[Adam Curry]

So we'll see. But that's. What if he's going to come in there as a big talker, we'll see how. Well, I, I mean, so far everybody's coming through with what they've said, so let's see if Kennedy's one of them.

[John C. Dvorak]

So the last one is Kash Patel, I guess, and he just got through the committee, so they're going to take it to the vote. I don't know if it's today or not, and I think it's.

[Adam Curry]

It's. Yeah, well, it could be today, tomorrow maybe, but, yeah, they got Tulsi through. Tulsi was the one. I think that was who.

[John C. Dvorak]

Who knew?

[Adam Curry]

I'm stunned that Tulsi made it.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's something going on. Leverage. Someone's got leverage, man. Someone's got leverage. Pictures, videos. I don't know. It's pretty. This is actually a very tough time for us because everybody's got clips and you've got the Senate and the House and everyone's going crazy and it's like, that's not all that interesting anymore. So we have to kind of find the nuggets and the real.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I got some Tulsi stuff we can play.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, let's play some Tulsi stuff.

[Adam Curry]

Well, here's the. Just the NTD confirmation, then I have the Tulsi Gabbard analysis.

[John C. Dvorak]

No. Yeah, that's what you call it. Okay, here it is.

[Caller/Guest]

Trump is continuing his plans to take control of the Gaza Strip to rebuild. Now he's trying to get nearby countries to temporarily host Palestinians. Later this month, Egypt will hold an emergency Arab summit to further discuss the new proposal. Reporting from Washington, D.C. molina Weiskop in TD News, the Senate voted this morning to.

[John C. Dvorak]

You could have clipped that off. What happened there?

[Adam Curry]

I meant, I don't know why it was.

[John C. Dvorak]

What happened there. Very unprofessional.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I agree.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, here we go.

[Caller/Guest]

The Senate voted this morning to confirm Tulsi Gabbard as the Director of National Intelligence. This after Democrats ran out the clock debating the nomination. Ms. Gabbard is a patriot.

[John C. Dvorak]

She's someone who's motivated by service, and she's been serving her country and community since she was 21 years old when she was elected to the Hawaii state legislature.

[Caller/Guest]

And after her first session in the Hawaii legislature, she enlisted in the Army National Guard.

[John C. Dvorak]

But there are certain times you have to buck and stand up and say, no, this is just a very bad choice for America. And the nomination of Ms. Gabbard is simply one of those. I plead with my colleagues, I know it's the last minute, to think twice.

[Adam Curry]

To vote no, as we all will vote.

[Caller/Guest]

Despite Democratic opposition, and after 30 hours of debate, with 52 votes in favor and 48 against, Gabbard was confirmed. Former Senate leader Mitch McConnell voted against the confirmation. He was the only Republican defector. Gabbard, a former Democratic congresswoman and veteran, is Trump's 14th nominee to be confirmed since January 20th.

[John C. Dvorak]

What I like about Ms. Gabbard is she's got fashion sense. She has cool outfits that work on TV and photos. You know what I mean?

[Adam Curry]

Everybody's. Everybody that Trump has got in there.

[John C. Dvorak]

For the most part, has fashion sense.

[Adam Curry]

They have a certain pizzazz, flair pizzazz. A flair, flair pizzazz.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. That's all we really want in this movie. We just want to have the people look good dress. Exactly. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Casting is like casting.

[John C. Dvorak]

It used to be show businesses or politics is show business for ugly people, and now it's like, no, it's just show business.

[Adam Curry]

Well, we have to make an exception with Cash Patel, the cross side guy, so.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, but he is a sharp dresser.

[Adam Curry]

He is a sharp dresser, and he's sharp on his feet and he's. And he's got. He has a lot of broadcasting style.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, that's from the all in podcast. Oh, wait, that's a different guy. That's Chamath. I'm sorry, wrong guy.

[Adam Curry]

The other guy.

[John C. Dvorak]

The other guy.

[Adam Curry]

By the way, that guy, he's got some analysis. That's pretty good. That Shamal guy, is it.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think it's Jamal.

[Adam Curry]

I don't know how to pronounce his first or last name.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's all right. Everyone will get mad at me. When you make mistakes, it's all good.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, before we play the Tulsa Cavern analysis, you have to discuss that.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't. I have nothing to discuss other than I look at my X timeline. I was going to do Rogan.

[Adam Curry]

You got blamed for something I said.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm going to Rogan yesterday. And I get up in the morning, like, whenever I read Zionist boomer piece of crap, I'm like, okay, I'm just not going to read today. I'm just going to keep on moving. And that's the most offensive thing. How dare you call me a boomer. That's so wrong.

[Adam Curry]

You are a boomer. Technically.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's all I got to say about it.

[Adam Curry]

You're the end of the boomers. End of the line.

[John C. Dvorak]

I am not interested in a pod battle a la Drake and Kendrick Lamar. Get a grip, people. Move on. Move on.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, we do have to discuss our fabulous super bowl selection again.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, you want to do it now? We're after the.

[Adam Curry]

I gotta play the Gabbard stuff.

[John C. Dvorak]

Gabbard. All right, Gabbard.

[Adam Curry]

Changing the topic.

[John C. Dvorak]

Analysis 1. Analysis 1. Here we go.

[Caller/Guest]

Joining us now to discuss the confirmation of GABBARD and the U.S. intelligence community is Nicholas F. Timiotis, retired senior intelligence officer and author of Chinese Espionage Operations and Tactics. Nick, thank you so much for joining us. Good to see you again. Now, first, Gabbard has worn a lot of hats. A military veteran, a former congresswoman, and even a former presidential candidate. What do you think she'll bring to her new role as the nation's top intelligence director? Well, there are a lot of things that each candidate would bring to the role in her case. I mean, certainly, first and foremost is trust of the President. And in that role, you couldn't have a more critical factor than that, than having the President's trust. So she has that. Secondly, she is rather committed, and you can hear this in her testimony, towards a protection of civil rights and privacy rights within the United States. So she is going to ensure that that intelligence community follows the rules and behaves in a way appropriate for US Intelligence. And lastly, I would say that she understands some of the strategic threats that present us today, China and Russia in particular. And she knows that these are going to be issues that are going to be first and foremost priorities for the intelligence community.

[John C. Dvorak]

Who is this guy?

[Adam Curry]

Some ex spook?

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

He's very amenable to her. And I think the point he made there was that she's a loyalist.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh. Oh, yes. Well, obviously.

[Adam Curry]

But is that, you know, I don't Know why people are shocked by that? Because that's what you want.

[John C. Dvorak]

But he didn't use the L word. I'm a little disappointed.

[Adam Curry]

No, he didn't. Which I think was a plus. That means he, he. That means he's not a Democrat, because Democrats who use that word.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay. On television, for sure. All right, number two, number two, here we go.

[Caller/Guest]

I want to get to the foreign threats, but first, on your second point, Senator Lisa Murkowski, who was initially holding out, said she decided to support Gabb due to her promise to narrow the scope of the intel community to ensure the safety and civil liberties of Americans. What actions do you see Gabra taking to follow through on that? Well, that's going to be interesting. I think, I think the first. I know she wants to hit the ground running, but I think in the first couple of months she's going to have to understand the playing field a little more. I think we're going to be looking at a new inspector general. I think we're going to be looking at reviews of operations. I think we're going to be looking at, at, in some cases, if appropriate, the cleaning of house. So I think she's going to get her hands on the bureaucracy first. And as she does that, I think she's going to put in specific measures relative to oversight of intelligence operations, oversight of targeting, maintenance of records, and all the other things that potentially an intelligence agency can do to be weaponized or to just be a threat to the US Population.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now, wouldn't she be involved in the decision based upon intelligence? If we should bomb Gaza on Saturday at 12 noon, wouldn't that be the first thing she's involved in?

[Adam Curry]

Well, it would have to be by definition, since she's there. I don't think we're going to bomb Gaza to smithereens, but I think the Israelis might. Yeah, we gave him a bunch of. That was, that was not a laugh.

[John C. Dvorak]

Like, by the way, that was not a laugh like haha, bomb Gaza people. That's not it. But yeah, he's Zionist shill.

[Caller/Guest]

Now, critics are pointing to Gabbard's past, such as past comments sympathetic to Edward Snowden and past, past public support for Russia. Now, given her confirmation was mostly along party lines. Do you think there's legitimate concerns over some of these issues? I think everybody's past changes the minute they get selected for, for a nomination. I don't think there are issues. Look, she's going to do what the President wants. I mean, that much has been very clear in virtually every candidate. That's come up for nomination that they're going to execute the will of the presidency. And so, you know, there are a lot of public, there are a lot of personal opinions that go on in this doesn't mean that, that they're going to be influencing or in any way her performance in that role. So no, I don't see those as an issue at all really. Every candidate has come to the table with some, you know, some quote that was thrown at them four years ago or five years ago. And you know, the circumstances were different, the context was different, the knowledge base on that person's part was different. So I don't see that as a real issue to her functioning. Now, to one of your earlier points, how do you see Gabbard and the agency more broadly tackling the threats of Chinese espionage and intelligence operations on U.S. soil? Well, that's going to be an extraordinary challenge. I mean, as a system, as a government, we're not built for that really. We, you know, the political warfare that China executes, we're not built to, to work against the, the cyber attacks that China has done. Absolutely relentless and volume and levels of penetration we're not built to handle. So a little bit of restructuring is going to be in order. We're going to have to use, and she's going to have to use a whole of government approach, you know, with other agencies in order to be able to respond to that and to protect the United States. I mean, just clearly we're at this point outclassed.

[John C. Dvorak]

This guy is testing my patience. Whose side is he on? He's on ntd, like, oh, China's the best. Oh, we can't, oh, they outclass us everywhere. Really?

[Adam Curry]

That's what he's claiming? Well, I mean, they have built a F35. How did they do that?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, anything would fly better than our current F35. All I see is these things pancaking into the ground.

[Adam Curry]

We suckered them into building an F35. Perhaps that's what it is. The thing in there is that the Snowden thing was always kind of interesting to me because she skirted that very well because they kept hounding her, the Democrats.

[John C. Dvorak]

Is he a traitor?

[Adam Curry]

Is he a traitor? Is he a traitor? And she wouldn't say, yes, he's a traitor because she doesn't think he's a traitor. She thinks him as a whistleblower because he was he exposed illegal activities on the part of the intelligence community.

[John C. Dvorak]

Do you think Snowden will want to come home now or is he kind.

[Adam Curry]

Of, is he good I think Snowden's always wanted to come home.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hmm. Well, he could come home, get a hero's welcome ticker tape parade.

[Adam Curry]

I don't think he's gonna. This still is still sketchy. I don't know how they're gonna get him back. He still may be working for the CIA for all we really know. This could have been an op gone bad.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hmm. I don't know. I don't know.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I mean, it could be an op gone bad and they're stuck with this guy who's stuck in Russian.

[John C. Dvorak]

As long as once he gets his glasses fixed and he gets that, that nose pad on, then we'll know the op is over. That's been that way for the glasses.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, there's those phony glasses he wears.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right, your last clip. Yeah.

[Caller/Guest]

To your point, the latest report from research group might her says that the intel community is not well positioned to tackle the full spectrum of threats from the Chinese regime. What actions do you think the new DNA has to take to address this issue? Or you know, what suggestions would you have for them? Well, you know, it takes time. We have a lot of what they call one book wonders. I mean, you know, the intelligence community is getting smarter, but there's not a lot of depth of experience. We had thousands of people who were trained as Soviet, you know, area experts during the course of the Cold War. So that's going to take a little time. Building expertise is one. Number two is working cross coordination, I mean between agencies, you know, they have to work together because you know, China strikes on so many different fronts. And number three, and I can't say this with enough emphasis that we've got to get a national strategy not just in the intelligence community, but throughout commerce and US Trade rep and Security and Exchange Commission and the intelligence community and the Defense Department. I mean all these have to be interlinked into one national strategy to be able to contend with China's, you know, China's assertiveness across multiple fronts. Now on the issue of trust, do you see the likes of Gabbard and now John Ratcliffe with the CIA helping to increase the public's trust in the intel community given the say 51 so called spies who lied over the 100 Biden laptop or reports of weaponization in the agency? Yeah, well, that's going to be interesting. I think the public trust will increase over time, but it is going to be difficult. I mean their job is going to be immensely difficult because trust, once lost, takes a very long time to build back. So I Mean that's in people's person to person relationships and certainly within, you know, with the government and its and the citizenry. So I think they can, I think they can make gains, but I think it's going to take time and they need to, need to be at it and keep pushing at it. And the release of documents that they're doing is going to be a first step. They're going to be a few painful months ahead as documents are released. But after that time we should begin a healing process.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, I can't wait for the healing process.

[Adam Curry]

Well, that brings us to the clip of the release of the documents by Was it Luna, I think that came up with the comments. This is the Anna Luna files they're setting up. Besides the fact that they're going to release all these documents, the there's a new congressional subcommittee that's going to look into all of them even more in more depth. And this was Anna Luna who's going to head it up. Who's the.

[Caller/Guest]

Together with the help, sorry of the White House, our intelligence allies, the Department of Defense, the Department of Justice, we'll be conducting investigations into the following the assassinations of JFK, RFK and Dr. Martin Luther King. Unidentified aerial phenomena, also known as UAPs, unidentified submerged objects, also known as USOs, the Epstein client list, the origins of COVID 19 and the 911 files. This task force will be a beacon of bipartisanship on the Republican side. Representatives Burchett, Boebert, Burleson, Crane, Gill and Mace will be joining me.

[John C. Dvorak]

Anna Luna, huh?

[Adam Curry]

Boebert, Mace, all the mean girls are going to be on this thing.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Well, you know, this morning we got this report. The FBI has discovered new stuff.

[Caller/Guest]

The FBI says It has uncovered 2400 new records related to President John F. Kennedy's assassination. Officials say the documents contain about 14,000 pages worth of material that a disclosure board was supposed to review but never saw. The FBI has added the documents to its declassification process. It comes after President Donald Trump issued an executive order last month to declassify the JFK, RFK and Martin Luther King Jr. Assassination files.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now the video they showed was like old newspaper clippings and I don't know exactly what 2400 records they've. They found. It didn't look like much. I think they have another, that was just some footage, another 10 days or so until, until it's time to release the files. Well, we're all very excited.

[Adam Curry]

This will be, you know, they. Trump's running out of executive order so they bought 10 days worth of more executive orders to get everyone's attention to screw up the media. Then they roll this out. That'll keep people busy.

[John C. Dvorak]

I want to talk about the super bowl for a second. I have two relevant clips, funny enough. First of all, it's amazing that the Eagles won, considering there's something wrong in the water after the mayor. Now we have this city official, and finally, we want folks to sign up for our city's Ready Philadelphia Public Information and Alert System. In fact, we have a special way to do that. You can text ready Eagles. That's one word, no spaces. And that's R E A D Y.

[Caller/Guest]

E A G L, S.

[John C. Dvorak]

What is.

[Adam Curry]

Wrong with these dumb Philadelphia.

[John C. Dvorak]

Here's the views take on the super bowl, in particular the halftime.

[Caller/Guest]

You know, I don't do sports. You know, I don't do football. So I wasn't watching the game.

[Adam Curry]

I wasn't watching. But.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, but this is her analysis.

[Adam Curry]

I wasn't watching, but I'm gonna give you an analysis.

[John C. Dvorak]

Of course.

[Caller/Guest]

I think today Donald Trump is gonna sign an executive order banning black people from halftime. Because you remember last week we were talking about whether the NFL was capitulating to Trump by removing the term end racism from the end zone.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[Caller/Guest]

Boy, did they not capitulate to Trump. When I saw Samuel L. Jackson. Yeah. Dressed as a black Uncle Sam. Introducing Kendrick Lamar. Yeah. Who then had like an entire formation of all black people making a US Flag. Listen, this much I know all the black people on my feed were like, ooh, this is blackity, black, black. And all the black somehow get in. Man, were they hopping mad. So if the races are mad, I am happy as a clan. This was a huge, huge celebration of New Orleans. And you can't celebrate New Orleans without celebrating black culture. Yeah. Welcome to Black History Month, you all.

[Adam Curry]

One of the panelists on the Gutfeld show pointed out it was Tyrus. I think the black guy, he says that Samuel L. Jackson wasn't dressed as a black Uncle Sam. He was dressed as Uncle Sam.

[John C. Dvorak]

Thank you. Very good point. Exactly. That said, they don't get that because they are the racists.

[Adam Curry]

These people are the racist. She's the worst.

[John C. Dvorak]

So what'd you think of the halftime? Which is the thing we all have to talk about? What do you think about that?

[Adam Curry]

Well, I watched a little bit of it. I mean, I skipped around the whole game because after the first quarter you can tell the game was going to be bore. But the. I thought it was pretty well produced. I mean, I couldn't understand A word. He was singing half of it. I knew something about the song, but I thought the thing was pretty spectacular. Personally.

[John C. Dvorak]

What they should have done is, like all these Christian artists, they should have a big screen and the words up on the screen. No, I'm not kidding. It's really good. I mean, or have it in lower third.

[Adam Curry]

It's not a bad idea.

[John C. Dvorak]

Why not?

[Adam Curry]

It was poorly miked, but the dancing was. Was really spectacular.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, the dancing was great. Those kids with the dance.

[Adam Curry]

Those kids, they know how to dance.

[John C. Dvorak]

Dancing.

[Adam Curry]

But the whole thing was. I thought it was a good show.

[John C. Dvorak]

I. I personally. Of course, this is the only football game I watch once a year. I like the game. I thought it was exciting.

[Adam Curry]

You thought it was exciting? Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I don't watch football. And really, after the game, I sat next to Tina. I said, how do people watch one of these every week? That's tiring.

[Adam Curry]

No, that gave. No, the Super Bowl's a little different than a typical football game.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, is it longer? For some reason, it actually is.

[Adam Curry]

I think they. I think they stretch it a little bit because, I mean, the quarters are the same length, but I think they stretch it. I think the halftime is stretched five minutes. Maybe I could be wrong, but the. No, it's just the intensity of the game's a little different. It's just. And it's overanalyzed. It's just a slightly different. The weekly games are.

[John C. Dvorak]

Are.

[Adam Curry]

And most smart viewers speed watch them. You record them. You know, you record to about the third quarter, and you start watching the game, you catch up at the end, and so you get to watch the end live.

[John C. Dvorak]

Which brings me.

[Adam Curry]

You don't have to watch commercials.

[John C. Dvorak]

Which brings me. Well, it brings me to an important email I received about speed watching and speed listening. Okay, this is where you go, oh, yeah, that's right.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah, yeah, I remember that ad. I'm sorry, that. The email.

[John C. Dvorak]

So speed watching. I'm just going to equate that to speed listening to your podcast, which I have claimed forever is bad for your health.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, well, speed watching isn't watching at high speed.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, then I'll leave that email for later.

[Adam Curry]

What speed watching is, is you turn the game on, you have it recorded about a half hour to an hour in advance. You watch the game, it gets the commercials. Boom. You skip ahead back to the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, the commercials I watched on YouTube TV. Did I just not get any good commercials?

[Adam Curry]

There were no good commercials. They were all. And some of them were sickening. The flying eyebrows and the flying mustaches what is that all about? And then also the tongue. This guy's tongue that comes out of. That was mouth. It was gross.

[John C. Dvorak]

That was creepy. That was a creepy one. But Kanye apparently had some Nazi closing ads, which are only. I think people have moved to local ads more than national spots. Except for the spy, the Pfizer. You know, we're gonna beat cancer, which is just kind of a. That whole thing was kind of. Was kind of gross. Sick. They're sick, like from the people who gave you cancer, you know, we're going to save you from it. Ugh, I don't know. Anyway, we called it. You called it much more accurately than I did. I had a point spread which was completely off, but we both said it was the Eagles. And were the Eagles the favorite to win or.

[Adam Curry]

No, no, they were underdogs, so people.

[John C. Dvorak]

Must have made money and they're donating to the show today.

[Adam Curry]

I haven't seen any evidence of this.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, so just remember, we call these things more right than wrong, I think.

[Adam Curry]

And we do it from political basis. We don't call it based on the. Although Philadelphia did have a better team and it showed.

[John C. Dvorak]

Although your guy, Sequan, man, they had him covered. He couldn't do anything.

[Adam Curry]

They basically lost the game because of.

[John C. Dvorak]

Of that tactic, that strategy.

[Adam Curry]

The tactic was to stop this one guy, Saquon Barkley, the running back for Philadelphia. And they spent all their efforts on that. And in the process, they lost the game hugely because that's all they could do is stop that one guy. And they did stop him. I think he only gained 45 yards or so, or maybe.

[John C. Dvorak]

And he was 70.

[Adam Curry]

And he was 70 yards and 40 passing.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. And he was not MVP.

[Adam Curry]

No. And I was. Yeah, he didn't make MVP.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. But I like Hertz. I like Hertz. He was good. He was good.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, he is good. He's actually decent. And he can run, too.

[John C. Dvorak]

And I feel kind of bad. I felt bad for. For Mahomes, you know, and, you know, someone should tell him to stop chewing on that mout guard. That's just irritating. After a while. It's like, stop it.

[Adam Curry]

It's funny. Stephen Curry, the basketball player, does the same thing. There's a bunch of these nervous superstars that's chewing the mouth guard.

[John C. Dvorak]

Do you think it was rigged, possibly that.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean, I saw worm burners from Mahomes. Like, how does he do that? Just throwing it to the ground. I can do that. Put me in the Super Bowl.

[Adam Curry]

Coach, there was a. The reason, I suspect there May have been something up. Is that early before the game started there was. They shot some side camera shots of the different players and Mahomes had the look on his face like an unhappy look that was not gave him the news. You're not winning this game. Yeah. He. It's just as soon as I saw it, I said, oh, oh, okay. Well I, you know, well, maybe the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Whole thing, maybe the whole thing was just rigged so that Taylor Swift can write another album when she breaks up.

[Adam Curry]

On the, on the cast, on the, on the television, they didn't show Taylor.

[John C. Dvorak]

Because she only once, one time.

[Adam Curry]

Only one time I only saw her. I never saw her even once except on the, on YouTube videos.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, the YouTube video she was sitting, sitting next to her Satanist friend which that's what lost the game form as we predicted like you bring into the game.

[Adam Curry]

And they were booing her.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay, let's move on.

[Adam Curry]

That was a good rap.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. I have nothing. Hey, we did it again, John. Good work. We called it again.

[Adam Curry]

One of the things we do.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's one of the things we do. On to Magaza. Well, President Trump is not backing down on his plans to simply take over Gaza. During his meeting yesterday with the King of Jordan, King Abdullah, the President said the US Is simply going to take ownership.

[Caller/Guest]

There is nothing to buy.

[Adam Curry]

It's Gaza.

[Caller/Guest]

It's a war torn area. We're going to take it, we're going to hold it, we're going to cherish it and Mr. President, take it under what authority? It is sovereignty. Under the US Authority.

[John C. Dvorak]

Trump's plan, which would require the forced relocation of 2 million Palestinians, is not being well received by the Palestinians themselves.

[Caller/Guest]

I say to Trump that we will die in our country. We are not prepared to abandon our country. Palestine is for Palestinians. We do not belong to any other country. I urge you, President Trump, leave us alone and let us live.

[Adam Curry]

Let us rebuild Gaza.

[Caller/Guest]

We can make it better and more beautiful than it used to be. Palestine is for Palestinians.

[Adam Curry]

This is well known.

[Caller/Guest]

Palestine was here before Trump and it will be here after Trump.

[Adam Curry]

No one has the right to divide Palestine or Gaza or the West Bank.

[John C. Dvorak]

And this is really the interesting point because if you heard the President speak there, he said, you know, there's nothing to own. There's really nothing to buy because who owns Gaza? That's really the point of contention. Actually, I got a clip here from Judge Knapp. Judge Knapp, Judge Napolitano. Who his.

[Adam Curry]

What's his podcast Judging podcaster now.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, Judging freedom. Here's Trump on Air Force One on Sunday, either going to or coming home.

[Adam Curry]

From the Super Bowl.

[John C. Dvorak]

On buying and owning Gaza, Chris cut number one.

[Caller/Guest]

Steve Witkoff said that process would take 10 to 15 years. Does your commitment to rebuilding Gaza extend beyond your time in office?

[Adam Curry]

Committed to buying and owning Gaza.

[Caller/Guest]

As far as US Rebuilding it, we.

[Adam Curry]

May give it to other states in the Middle east to build sections of it. Other people may do it through our auspices. But we're committed to owning it, taking it, and making sure that Hamas doesn't move back. There's nothing to move back into. The place is a demolition site.

[John C. Dvorak]

By what authority could he possibly own it?

[Adam Curry]

None.

[John C. Dvorak]

Owning it implies a sale.

[Adam Curry]

Who would sell it to him?

[John C. Dvorak]

At one point he said Israel would sell it to us. Israel doesn't own it. Israel can't conquer it. Israel can't defeat Hamas. Heg Seth says American troops will never be there. I don't know if these people have even thought this stuff through. Well, so that's an interesting question because I know that the Strip was, until the Six Day War was controlled by Egypt. Then of course, Israel captured it. I don't know if you own it. If you captured it. And you know Israel, they control the airspace. I mean, who does? Anyone? It's not a country. Palestine is not a country. Although kind of half recognized by United nations, kind of like a we'll give you a resolution. So that is kind of the question if you're going to buy it, which I doubt is going to happen. I even doubt that we're going to do anything. I think it still will be either Jordan or Egypt and they're going to do something. Just doesn't seem like.

[Adam Curry]

I think the whole thing is bullshit. I think Trump is just saying this stuff. This is a version of the blurt. It's a matter of him getting people all riled up. Napolitano's clueless about anything. Mean. Napolitano is a podcaster, largely because he didn't understand Trump the first time around.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wait a minute. We're still podcasters ourselves.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I know, but we started off as a podcaster.

[John C. Dvorak]

We had. When you're at the bottom, you don't.

[Adam Curry]

Knock down a fox and a $10 million a year deal.

[John C. Dvorak]

When you're at the bottom to become.

[Adam Curry]

Podcasts and hitting the. Hitting the skids, when you're laying on.

[John C. Dvorak]

The floor, there's not far to fall.

[Adam Curry]

You're right, there's nothing. There's a big difference between hitting the skids and, you know.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, here is. I think this is the France 24 short report.

[Adam Curry]

As far as I'm concerned, if all.

[John C. Dvorak]

Of the hostages aren't returned By Saturday.

[Caller/Guest]

At 12:00, I think it's an appropriate time. I would say cancel it and all bets are off and let hell break out.

[Adam Curry]

I'd say they ought to be returned by 12 o'clock on Saturday.

[John C. Dvorak]

And if they're not returned, all of them, not in drips and drabs, not.

[Caller/Guest]

2 and 1 and 3 and 4 and 2, Saturday at 12 o'clock and after that, I would say all hell is going to break out.

[John C. Dvorak]

Here's Aaron Burnett.

[Adam Curry]

Before you continue, why do you think he said, I think it's an appropriate time. I had that same thing. I don't know.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know.

[Adam Curry]

What do you think High Noon is from the movie?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, that's what I said earlier. High Noon.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah, but it's from the movie. Trump's, you know, over the age, that the movie was very influential on his.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. Boomer. Boomer time. Boomer Time.

[Adam Curry]

Boomer stuff.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's Boomer stuff. Not landing with everybody.

[Adam Curry]

No, but that's, I'm telling you, that's exactly why he said it's an appropriate time. There's no other reason to say. Could have said 12:15. I mean, you know, but High Noon.

[John C. Dvorak]

And is that central Gaza time or.

[Adam Curry]

Is that, oh, it has to be Gaza time, obviously.

[John C. Dvorak]

Here's Aaron Burnett on cnn.

[Caller/Guest]

So you just hear President Trump there. He said parcel of land in Jordan where the Palestinians from Gaza will go live. Is that the case? Well, good evening and thanks for having me.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is Jordan's foreign minister.

[Caller/Guest]

I did have a very good discussion with the president. Obviously, those the presser took place before the expanded meeting where the ideas were discussed. President Trump presented his ideas.

[John C. Dvorak]

I believe he's driven by, as you.

[Caller/Guest]

Said, humanitarian concern for Gaza.

[Adam Curry]

He believes that Gaza cannot rebuild without.

[John C. Dvorak]

Gazans leaving their land.

[Caller/Guest]

His Majesty was very clear that we.

[Adam Curry]

Have a plan through which we'll be.

[Caller/Guest]

Able to rebuild Gaza without Gazans leaving their.

[John C. Dvorak]

They have a plan.

[Adam Curry]

And this is a very important, a key position for Jordan.

[Caller/Guest]

Beyond that, I think we had a very good discussion. His Majesty made it very clear where.

[Adam Curry]

We stand in terms of we can put up a plan that will rebuild Gaza without moving Gazans out of Gaza.

[Caller/Guest]

Okay. So very clear on your plan, rebuild Gaza without moving Gazans out. And, you know, I don't want to put words in your mouth, but just to be clear, parcel of land in Jordan does not fit with that. It sounded like you were Very clear that Trump said that before the meeting with King Abdullah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, so that, so Jordan seems to be willing to do something. I think. Where's this clip about a clip where Trump said he didn't think any hostages were still alive? I think it's this one from NBC.

[Caller/Guest]

This morning, President.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh my God, it's a Brit. It must be true.

[Caller/Guest]

This morning, President Trump in a.

[Adam Curry]

Why is he yelling?

[John C. Dvorak]

Why is he yelling at me?

[Caller/Guest]

This morning, President Trump in a standoff with Hamas saying he wants to cancel the ceasefire deal if they don't release all hostages.

[Adam Curry]

CLIP why does NBC have this guy working? He's shouting at us and with a British accent. What is the point of this? Is this professional?

[John C. Dvorak]

If it's British, then it's truthful. We all know that.

[Adam Curry]

What's the point of him shouting? It's like the old, that old, I don't know, rich and famous guy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, Robin Leach, Robin Leach shouting He's got a beautiful multimillion dollar yacht with champagne wishes and caviar dreams, saying he.

[Caller/Guest]

Wants to cancel the ceasefire deal if they don't release all hostages by Saturday.

[Adam Curry]

As far as I'm concerned, if all.

[Caller/Guest]

Of the hostages aren't returned By Saturday at 12:00, I think it's an appropriate time. I would say cancel it and all bets are off. And let hell break out. The carefully negotiated cease fire inching closer to collapse. And this morning, Israel says its military is on the highest level of alert after Hamas said it would indefinitely delay releases claiming Israel isn't meeting its obligations. And three hostages were freed last weekend in emaciated condition. Now the President's renewed threat that all hell will break loose if they're not returned.

[John C. Dvorak]

All of them not in drips and.

[Adam Curry]

Drabs, not 2 and 1 and 3.

[Caller/Guest]

And 4 and 2. This weekend, President Trump doubling down on his call Palestinians to leave Gaza. Would the Palestinians turn? No, they wouldn't, because they're going to.

[Adam Curry]

Have much better housing.

[Caller/Guest]

And ahead of a meeting today with the King of Jordan, threatening to potentially withhold funding for Jordan and Egypt if they don't cooperate by taking millions of refugees. Both countries are clear that's a destabilizing prospect they would not accept. Potentially another impasse at a critical moment.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, I don't know where. I thought I had a clip where he said he didn't think the hostages were even alive anymore. I know I do have King Abdullah. Wait, no, I have the Egyptian President. He also had a little sit down for Egypt.

[Caller/Guest]

Donald Trump's plan to displace Palestinians from Gaza is a non starter. And in a sign of its anger, Egyptian security sources said President Sisi would not go to Washington for talks if the agenda included Trump's vision. In Cairo, the mood is one of defiance. Wants to displace the Palestinians from their homes and ignite war in the region. This man has come to destroy the region. The entire Arab world must come together as one and we must not allow.

[John C. Dvorak]

Anyone to strong arm us.

[Caller/Guest]

The US President though, has doubled down on his suggestion for the permanent.

[John C. Dvorak]

Everyone's talking about doubling down placement of.

[Caller/Guest]

Gazans to both Egypt and Jordan.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm talking about starting to build and.

[Caller/Guest]

I think I could make a deal with Jordan, I think I could, could make a deal with Egypt.

[Adam Curry]

You know, we give them billions and.

[John C. Dvorak]

Billions of dollars a year.

[Caller/Guest]

Last year the US allocated $1.3 billion in military aid to Egypt, which alongside Israel has consistently been one of the biggest recipients of US military aid since the US brokered peace treaty between Egypt and Israel more than four decades ago. President Sisi has repeatedly said Egypt would never facilitate the expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza. Aside from being an injustice to the Palestinians and an economic burden for Egypt, which narrowly averted a full blown crisis last year, Sisi views Islamist groups like Hamas as a serious threat to his country's own security. The Egyptian foreign Minister traveled to Washington on Sunday where Reuters reports it was made apparent in a meeting with the US Secretary of State that the displacement plan would be on the table if Sisi visited.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I don't know, we'll see.

[Adam Curry]

I'm convinced that this is all bluff to like bluster that I'm going to do this, I'm going to do that under my own authority. We're going to take over the place and build the Riviera and you just freak these guys out. And they said, no, no, no, we're gonna, we'll do it, we'll do it, we'll do it and get them both in gear.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's what it sounds like to me too.

[Adam Curry]

No, because they don't want the Palestinians in their countries under any circumstances because they're troublemakers. It's a known fact. And so they're not going to have any. Okay, well, we'll do it, we'll do it, we'll do it. It. Let us do it, let us do it. You know, it'll save you money and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And the next thing you know they'll be doing it instead of sitting on their hands, which is what they're doing now.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, it sounds Like Jordan is definitely amenable to doing something.

[Adam Curry]

They're both going to have to them and probably a few other operations are going to have to do something.

[John C. Dvorak]

Saudis maybe. Saudi. Saudi money.

[Adam Curry]

Saudi money. Yeah, maybe. Could be somebody. But the. Trump's not going to do. We're not going to buy or take over Palestine. It's bull crap.

[John C. Dvorak]

What would it be worth?

[Adam Curry]

Well, if you made it into the Riviera of this, it would be worth a lot.

[John C. Dvorak]

Put it into our sovereign wealth fund.

[Adam Curry]

And Trump did say early on, he says, and don't worry about. It's not going to cost us anything. If you notice, he said that in the early going when he first came, when he first blurted this idea out.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well, the wall was going to be costing Mexico.

[Adam Curry]

How's that work?

[John C. Dvorak]

The wall was going to be paid for by Mexico too. So.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, well.

[John C. Dvorak]

And the check is coming for him. He just didn't say when they were going to pay for it. All right, I want to stick with. Because it's kind of funnier when you have. The Brits are. The British media is going crazy. They don't know what to do with this Trumpness, particularly Doge. And it's great. This is lbc. So this is the, you know, the, the Radio London. Was it London Broadcast Corporation, I guess the LBC.

[Adam Curry]

LBC's.

[John C. Dvorak]

What is it called? Anyway, they also have video, you know, they, everyone has to have video of them in their studio. And here's how it starts off.

[Caller/Guest]

They're soggy.

[Adam Curry]

Dissolve.

[Caller/Guest]

And last only a couple of minutes. Donald Trump has launched strong straw wars on paper straws. I'm LBC's Henry Riley finding out if people want to make plastic straws.

[Adam Curry]

Great again.

[John C. Dvorak]

I like straw Wars. I think, I think that no one in America did that. That I could tell. Straw wars is good, but they have to stick.

[Adam Curry]

It's a good pun and it works. And it kind of surprises me now that you mentioned that nobody on our side or us notorious for good puns and headlines didn't come up with straw wars.

[John C. Dvorak]

It should have been us. This show should have been the star.

[Adam Curry]

War theme in the background. And make it even more.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. All right.

[Adam Curry]

So it should have been us.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, we get into the meat of it on occasions. They break, they explode.

[Adam Curry]

It's a ridiculous situation.

[Caller/Guest]

Not talking about condoms there, fortunately enough. Instead talking about plastic straws.

[Adam Curry]

The president work that the 47th President of the United States has to conduct.

[John C. Dvorak]

Has got to do.

[Adam Curry]

Flanked by Elon Musk making it clear what he thought about Plastic straws. The most powerful office on the face of the earth.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let's catch up now with Simon. You are being so diminutive about our most powerful office on earth. Straws are a big deal. Everybody hates the straws.

[Caller/Guest]

They can't.

[John C. Dvorak]

I thought, you know, when I lived in the UK five years, I found them to have incredible humor.

[Adam Curry]

You know, the Brits.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. Oh, and particularly.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, they. They have an understated style of humor that is outstanding. Yeah, I agree.

[John C. Dvorak]

But now they're. Now they're getting all serious. Oh, this is ridiculous. Can you believe it, Jeeves? He's talking about straws. It's crazy.

[Adam Curry]

The most powerful straw on the face of the earth. Let's catch up now with Simon Marks, LBC's Washington correspondent. Of course, Simon.

[Caller/Guest]

Even by Trump standards, this was quite something to watch. Yes. It's just worth picking up. Louis, on the fact that they're all. They always seem terribly obsessed with explosive devices. The condoms that were allegedly going to Hamas.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hamas. Hey, it's condoms and Hamas. Okay, stop with the condoms and Hamas.

[Caller/Guest]

Explosive devices.

[John C. Dvorak]

The condoms that were allegedly going to Hamas. Condoms that President Trump said a few.

[Caller/Guest]

Weeks ago, couple of weeks ago, he had stopped from being sent to Hamas. Nonetheless, at the time, he inexplicably claimed that Hamas had somehow got their hands.

[John C. Dvorak]

On them and were using them to make bombs.

[Caller/Guest]

I don't quite know how you do that. Now we discover that paper straws are potentially.

[John C. Dvorak]

I guess this guy's never done water balloons either.

[Caller/Guest]

Explosive devices. I mean, I think what we witnessed.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, do you hear what he said? Oh, no. Straws are explosive devices. I don't think that was the point.

[Caller/Guest]

I don't quite know how you do that. Now we discover that paper straws are potential explosive devices. I mean, I think what we witnessed yesterday was, frankly, the country going full Ruritania. I mean, if you've ever watched the Marx Brothers, no relation. Groucho Marx in Duck Soup acting as the President of Freedonia. I mean, at least that's satirical. What we saw in the Oval Office yesterday.

[Adam Curry]

Hold on a second.

[John C. Dvorak]

I knew that would get you.

[Adam Curry]

What, a callback. The 1930s movies, Duck Soup. How many people that even listen to the BBC or even our show.

[John C. Dvorak]

Lbc.

[Adam Curry]

Lbc. I'm sorry. Yeah, lbc. How many people listen that, you know, can relate to the Duck Soup movie? Unless you're a Marx Brothers fan, and that's a very small number at this time in history. Give me a breakdown.

[Caller/Guest]

Yeah, I mean, at least that's satirical. What we saw in the Oval Office yesterday was simply the most astonishing tableau anybody that has ever covered modern American politics. Politics has witnessed and underscored the fact that Elon Musk now is acting essentially as the de facto prime minister. In a country that doesn't have a prime minister and in a country that doesn't have anything like prime minister's Question time. Where the prime minister would be held.

[John C. Dvorak]

Accountable by Parliament, they don't have any pmq, no prime minister, no Elon Question time. Although I think we kind of had exactly that in the Oval Office with his kid roaming around with the kid.

[Adam Curry]

On his shoulders and putting his boogers on the desk.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right, here's the last bit.

[Caller/Guest]

Here he is absolutely unrestrained by Donald Trump. And we should explain that the reason why, the ostensible reason why Elon Musk was in that room yesterday was because one of the executive orders that Donald Trump was signing was to empower Mr. Musk's Department of Government Efficiency, efficiency, which of course is not a real government department, to pursue, as the executive order puts it, large scale workforce reductions.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hold on a second. When you have an executive order creating the Department of Government Efficiency, you literally have an agency. He says it does not. This executive order breathed it.

[Adam Curry]

Created department.

[John C. Dvorak]

It created it. Yes. Just like USAID was created by executive order by Kennedy. Yes.

[Caller/Guest]

The federal government they're talking about, for every four civil servants that resign or are fired, they're only going to replace them with one. And that one person has to be.

[John C. Dvorak]

An absolute dyed in the wool.

[Caller/Guest]

Make America great again. Loyalist.

[John C. Dvorak]

So this executive order, I just wanted the word loyalist. I like. You have to be a loyalist. It says it right there on line 13. A submarker 2. You, the director of DOGE must be a loyalist.

[Caller/Guest]

Loyalist. So this executive order substantially expands Elon Musk's capacity to oversee hiring at federal agencies. Mr. Musk made a whole slew of absolutely unsubstantiated claims about the fraud that he says he is uncovering throughout the federal government. Donald Trump said that the total amount of fraud within the federal government may even top $1 trillion by the time.

[Adam Curry]

Mr. Musk is finished.

[Caller/Guest]

They talked together about kickbacks that they claimed figures that the U.S. agency for International Development had received as a result of dispersing the now, I think it's fair to say former Humanitarian Development Assistance Organization's budget. I mean, the elephant in the room was the fact that when Donald Trump was president, first time around, every.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, what do you think they're going to counter with as fraud on Behalf of Trump won to counter the USAID fraud. What do you think the Brits will come up with here?

[Adam Curry]

Do they come up with, by the way, this whole thing is a ridiculous report.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah, but I needed entertainment after the, after the talks.

[Adam Curry]

What is wrong with these people?

[John C. Dvorak]

What do you think it could be that they're going to say it's so ridiculous.

[Adam Curry]

It's got to be Ivanka's deal with China Label president first time around.

[Caller/Guest]

Every foreign delegation that arrived in Washington D.C. dutifully booked into the Trump Hotel in the center of Washington D.C. beautifully.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now, since they, since they are taking us back to the times of Boomer. Allow me to take you back. Boomer. During the Clinton Gore presidency, we didn't have Doge. We had Rigo. Do you remember Rigo?

[Adam Curry]

Oh, no.

[John C. Dvorak]

R I G O.

[Adam Curry]

No, it rings a bell, but I don't remember it. I think it's been report tells us how to cut waste, cut red tape.

[Caller/Guest]

Streamline the bureaucracy, change, change procurement rules.

[Adam Curry]

Change the personnel rules, and create a.

[Caller/Guest]

Government that works better and costs less. The Reinventing Government, or Rego report aims.

[John C. Dvorak]

To save $108 billion over five years through eliminating scores of wasteful programs and regulations.

[Caller/Guest]

Among the 800 recommendations, eliminating 12% of the federal workforce.

[Adam Curry]

Merging some government agencies like the FBI.

[John C. Dvorak]

The DEA, and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. Closing hundreds of government offices outside Washington. Oh, no. Oh, no. Yeah, it wasn't a problem then, and.

[Adam Curry]

Of course it wasn't a problem then, and Brits weren't bitching about it.

[John C. Dvorak]

And it did nothing. It also did nothing back then, that I can recall.

[Adam Curry]

No, it did nothing. In fact, they were trying to get rid of that cave that they keep complaining about now.

[John C. Dvorak]

Cave is great.

[Adam Curry]

The cave is great. And they were trying to get rid of the cave, and I guess Obama tried to get rid of the cave. And everyone's trying to get rid of the cave.

[John C. Dvorak]

Here's a doocy on the cave. Good morning. The effort to make the government more efficient has fallen down a mine shaft 230ft below Boyers, Pennsylvania, in Butler county, where millions of manila envelopes represent the painstakingly slow federal retirement process. This is it. It looks like a place to ride out a nuclear explosion, but it's really where 700 federal workers very slowly process retirement papers by hand. The Washington Post described it in 2014 as a sinkhole of bureaucracy. So far, President Trump is pleased with efforts to make things more efficient. And he says he's not worried about potential conflicts of interest. For Musk you know what it's called? The mine. The mine shaft, the cave. It's called Iron Mountain.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, Iron Mountain is very famous.

[John C. Dvorak]

A lot of stuff at Iron Mountain. Not just that. If they're going into Iron Mountain, I want to go.

[Adam Curry]

There's also a lot of servers down there. There.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Which is ironic.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Considering that they have paper. They. The paper operations on one side, that's server operations on another.

[John C. Dvorak]

I. If I recall, I think there was a. An Internet service provider who was down there too, back in the day. Maybe Red Dog or Red Bus or. I recall there was some bus. Yeah, I think Red. Yeah, Red Bus was. I think maybe.

[Adam Curry]

I don't know.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I think there was. They had an isp.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Or maybe it was a backup company. Yeah, we got everything. We back it up in Iron Mountain. I think I might have actually told a client that at one point during. Think New ideas. Yeah, we do off site backups. We take them off to Iron Mountain. Oh, wow. Oh, where do I sign the contract?

[Adam Curry]

Meanwhile, it's a huge operation. It's a huge facility.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it's very big. Meanwhile, back on msnbc, Rachel Maddow back earning her keys, although she didn't get a raise, but she's really doing what she's supposed to do. Let's really dive into that Doge thing. Let's really, really figure out what's going. Because that's why I'm here for the first 100 days, every single day, I'll be on the air to bring you the news about the horrible Doge.

[Caller/Guest]

We're starting to see an upsurge in protests targeting Tesla dealerships, Tesla charging stations, just as sort of the corporate representation of Elon Musk since he owns Tesla. Tesla. We talked last week about a seemingly impromptu protest at Tesla charging stations in the bitter cold up in Waterville, Maine. Well, now look, they're starting to happen all over. At a Tesla dealership, showroom thing in Manhattan.

[John C. Dvorak]

A showroom thing.

[Caller/Guest]

Sort of a big crowd turned out there with very good signage. Stop Musk's coup. Elon Musk is not my president. This is a coup. Take away the keys from Elon. Don't buy swastikars.

[John C. Dvorak]

I like that. I like swastikars. Swastikars is good.

[Caller/Guest]

Also look in California, in San Luis Obispo, at a Tesla dealership there, more of the same. Stop the coup. Stop Musk. Save our democracy. Follow the rule of law. This is a pretty good one. Bad Doge. I mean, why do we say Doge, right? Like, why Are we playing along with the joke and their framing of it? There's just as much of a case that we should be calling it Dog e instead of doge. I don't know. That's a pretty compelling case. Bad doge.

[John C. Dvorak]

25 million a year. How much does he get for this?

[Adam Curry]

25 million a year.

[John C. Dvorak]

But the Tesla. The Tesla hate is a real thing, and it's not good if you own a Tesla in Portland, Oregon.

[Caller/Guest]

The video shows the vandal covering his face writing something on the hood of a car. That happened in broad daylight.

[Adam Curry]

I mean, he was brazen.

[Caller/Guest]

And Tim Tees, the culprit, targeted his Tesla parked in his Northwest Portland driveway on a quiet neighborhood street during Super Bowl Sunday.

[Adam Curry]

While I was up watching the game, my son and I were watching the football game.

[Caller/Guest]

I showed you the video.

[Adam Curry]

They sprayed my.

[Caller/Guest]

When Tease went to investigate, he discovered the word Nazi written in red. And he thinks there's a connection to Tesla CEO Elon Musk, who's now serving President Trump.

[Adam Curry]

I get the people are upset about Elon. I'm upset about Elon. You know, I bought the car before.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, Elon went crazy, hence the bumper sticker.

[Caller/Guest]

A sticker that'll have to wait since after cleaning, meaning his Tesla is now in storage.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm thinking about selling the Tesla, although.

[Caller/Guest]

I really like the car. This vandalism reported to Portland police follows other incidents, including a suspected arson at a Salem Tesla dealership last month.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, they all have these stickers. I bought the. I bought my car before Elon went crazy.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, what a bunch of weenies. I'm in California. I've seen no evidence of this. This is being played up, of course, as a kind of news media trick.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, they're instructing people to do this. That's why.

[Adam Curry]

That's what I meant. I should have said exactly that. That's what they're doing there. The media is complicit in the vandalism, there's no doubt about it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let's go to other favorite news channel, cnn. Anderson Pooper is losing it.

[Adam Curry]

Governor Sununu is. Was it strange to see?

[Caller/Guest]

It was surreal. But I got to tell you, I know what you're not showing here. Musk gave seven specific examples off the top of his head of where the corruption and fraud were. I know.

[John C. Dvorak]

You don't.

[Caller/Guest]

You didn't play the clips. He was talking about a contractor that had a three month contract. He was paid for 20 years. He was talking about welfare benefits that were being paid to someone that was technically 150 years old. He was talking about line items in the written.

[Adam Curry]

No justification. Like he doesn't present any actual evidence.

[Caller/Guest]

Well, he's standing there in the Oval Office. Do you expect him to come in with 10,000 pages? And I have to be clear to complain about this administration, about transparency when this president takes open questions on a daily basis, yet Joe Biden didn't show up for a press conference. He is six months. Is insane. Well, these guys are being extremely transparent.

[Adam Curry]

They don't have to sit there and.

[Caller/Guest]

Take the questions, but they do. That's all on the website.

[Adam Curry]

It's all out there.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, now loud. Listen to Pooper. Really lose it.

[Adam Curry]

Well, show where some of the details that have come out. Like the, you know, $59 million spent on luxury hotels. It's actually not about the FEMA money.

[Caller/Guest]

That was abused for migrants. That was. Yeah, FEMA money for migrants. That's okay now.

[Adam Curry]

No, I'm not saying it's.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm not saying it's okay.

[Adam Curry]

Don't put words.

[Caller/Guest]

So. Would you stop that?

[Adam Curry]

Would you stop that Process? Process. Don't be a dick.

[Caller/Guest]

The portrayal.

[John C. Dvorak]

What I'm saying is what kind of interviewer says, don't be a dick.

[Adam Curry]

Unbelievable. Well, Pooper, I know you have that more on that clip because.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Is it 14 seconds.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, I have a thought about this.

[John C. Dvorak]

I want to hear the don't be a dick again.

[Adam Curry]

Don't be a dick.

[John C. Dvorak]

The portrayal.

[Adam Curry]

What I'm saying is the portrayal by him is just not. Not factually accurate. He's talking about luxury hotels. There you can. I'm not. I'm not a big.

[John C. Dvorak]

Look, I was in a hurry until he sends you a. I saw what FEMA does.

[Adam Curry]

I believe it.

[John C. Dvorak]

I guess I think the issue too.

[Caller/Guest]

Is these are congressionally appropriate funds, blah, blah, blah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

You have a thought on Pooper.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. He goes on about this. Okay, so they. FEMA picked up the Roosevelt Hotel and they're putting all these people in there, including supposedly Lake and Riley's killer.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I hadn't heard that.

[Adam Curry]

And Trent Rogue is in the. In the Roosevelt Hotel.

[John C. Dvorak]

And you know what? They're eating. Eating the dogs in there.

[Adam Curry]

And so they have these. And they say this is. And so the common. The. The people doing the commentating. I mean, not Cooper, but the guy being the interview. The interviewee. That's what I meant. Says a luxury hotel. The Roosevelt Hotel. Hotel is not a luxury. It's.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's a dump. I stayed there 10 years ago and was nothing but people drunk in the hallways. Weed smoke everywhere. Yeah, thank you. That's the term. Exactly.

[Adam Curry]

So, Cooper, besides the amount of money being overspent on these hotel rooms, which is. Was ridiculous, I guess they're paying hundreds of dollars a night in FEMA money going to the hotel. Cooper's point was it's a lie because it's not a luxury hotel. It's a lie because it's not a luxury hotel. We know it's not. And that was his real. The point he was trying to make, and it was just falling apart. But this is pathetic. Oh, and the mainstream media is not covering any of the stuff they're uncovering that DOGE has uncovered. And they have documentation.

[John C. Dvorak]

They're just fighting it. They're just fighting it.

[Adam Curry]

They're fighting it. Yeah. Tooth and nail.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, it's. It's crazy. This is actually here. Then we have the House panel, the House Oversight panel, which was a total waste of time to watch. Here's a short report about it.

[Caller/Guest]

Do you have. Have serious desire to engage in democracy and transparency? We welcome you to the Oversight Committee. Come and testify in front of the American people under oath, because we want to know what you're up to. Elon Musk's increasing access to federal information has sparked lawsuits from several labor unions. Recent court filings reveal that one of Musk's employees was mistakenly given the ability to modify sensitive government payment systems. Well, Virginia Senator Mark Warner touched on the concerns about Doge's access to sensitive information on GMA3 today. He noted that much of the agency staff, who he called the Doge Bros, are young tech professionals with little to no government experience raising security risks in an increasingly hostile global climate.

[Adam Curry]

Problem with this kind of irregular responsibility.

[John C. Dvorak]

Is people will die because we have seen when our agents get compromised, the adversaries are not squeamish about taking them out.

[Caller/Guest]

In a recent letter to the White House Chief of Staff, Warner and several other Senate intelligence members demanded details on how DOGE staff is being vetted and what's being done to protect Americans from misuse of information.

[John C. Dvorak]

Is there like a flopping fish on the ground? Let me do you just need the.

[Adam Curry]

Chinese guy with a club and the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Exactly. The star of the show, though, is without a doubt. Miss. Leave it. Who has. I would. I don't know about you, but I would recommend a little. A little less on the lipstick. Have you. Have you taken a look recently? It's just. Just a tad too much.

[Adam Curry]

Same.

[Caller/Guest]

Thing.

[Adam Curry]

She comes on the various Fox shows, and depending on which show she's on, they have different Makeup. Most shows.

[John C. Dvorak]

What are you talking about? In the briefing room.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, in the briefing room. It doesn't bother me as much. It doesn't bother me.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, Just from a television standpoint, maybe she's protesting Trump.

[Adam Curry]

Cause you're supposed to wear red lipstick if you're protesting Trump.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's not red. No, but it's a little too shiny. It's just my personal opinion.

[Adam Curry]

She'll get feedback on it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Here she is with our boy Waters.

[Adam Curry]

So Obama knew about the retirement cave, spent millions to try to computerize America's workforce. Retirement paperwork failed.

[Caller/Guest]

Does President Trump promise we're going to.

[Adam Curry]

Shut this cave down?

[Caller/Guest]

Yes, he does. And that's why Elon Musk and President Trump brought it to the American people's attention in the Oval Office yesterday. And as they did that, Jesse, I was watching the faces of the mainstream media reporters who were in the Oval Office, and there was sheer silence because it appeared that many of them who are supposed to be writing the truth about our federal bureaucracy had no idea that the Federal Retirement System is being processed deep into the ground and is not computerized. Sunlight is the best disinfectant. And they are revealing the rot of this city every single day. Treat the federal government as a business. Small business owners across the country have to look at their money in and their money out every single day. Bureaucrats have never done that. And that's the other irony in the mainstream media saying that there's no transparency. I mean, before it was Elon Musk and President Trump doing this and being highly scrutinized for it, it was just unnamed bureaucrats in the city that nobody knew, just writing checks. And finally, we're actually looking at the books and what they are revealing is truly appalling. But I guess not surprising when you look at the way that Washington has been run for decade. American people voted for this monumental change. And that's exactly what they're getting.

[John C. Dvorak]

So this is. She's good. The only thing wrong with this, it's on Fox. She should be on cnn. She should be on MSNBC doing this rap. I guess they're not inviting her.

[Adam Curry]

They're not inviting her. She is good. What you just said is the reason.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Because she's good.

[Adam Curry]

She's really good. She's sharp, she's fast. She doesn't use a big binder.

[John C. Dvorak]

Compare it to Karine Jean Pierre Abdul Jabbar are.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, there's. There's not even. You have to compare to some of the more classic press secretaries that. That are very competent. Psaki she's all, she's, she's better than Psaki. She's better than. I think she was better than Kaylee McInee when she was doing it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Much better than Kaylee. I have to say.

[Adam Curry]

The head and shoulders, I think Dana Perino is. She's probably better, but they're close. I think if you go back to Huckabee was not as good.

[John C. Dvorak]

No.

[Adam Curry]

John Spicer, that guy was terrible.

[John C. Dvorak]

And how about the Mooch Scaramucci?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, but he was never a press secretary. He was just a kind of a communications guy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Profile raising is what he was doing. And then we have people, I guess, getting a little bit nervous Now. I'm going to take this with a big grain of salt because it's coming from Lady Lindy Hopp. Graham.

[Adam Curry]

Samantha Powers has been just texting me morning, noon tonight. Samantha, look in the mirror. The reason USAID is going to cease to exist as it did before is because it should. I can't go home and say this.

[Caller/Guest]

Is soft power operas.

[Adam Curry]

Whatever agenda you got needs to be.

[Caller/Guest]

Focused on making an American America safer.

[Adam Curry]

And prosperous while working with people.

[Caller/Guest]

So USAID is a victim of their own excesses.

[John C. Dvorak]

I have a feeling someone said, lindsay, you better get vocal about this stuff because we've got the dirt on you. And they must. Him and McCain Ukraine. But I've, you know, there's questions about those too.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah. I'm sure there's something that's going to come out. It's not going to be pleasant.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, but he's handy to have around. I bet he's fun parties.

[Adam Curry]

He's, he's, he seem. He has a funny style that allows people that seems trustworthy when it's not.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Let's play this clip. This is the Doge Committee clip. I'm not sure what it is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay. DOGECO NTD Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene was.

[Caller/Guest]

Selected by speaker of the House Mike.

[Adam Curry]

Johnson to chair the newly created Subcommittee on Delivering on Government Efficiency.

[Caller/Guest]

Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene, the Republican from Georgia highlighted the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Did he say delivering on Government? So the committee is called DOGE as well.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, that's interesting. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Subcommittee on Delivering on Government Efficiency.

[Caller/Guest]

Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene, the Republican from Georgia highlighted the bipartisan nature and mission of this subcommittee. This is not a Democrat process problem. This is not a Republican problem. This is an American problem. Over the next decade, total interest payments are projected to be $13.8 trillion. House Democrats charged House Republicans with being complicit in what they called the hacking of the U.S. federal Payment System by Elon Musk.

[Adam Curry]

Congressman, is there anything right now that the subcommittee might be working on where Democrats want to pitch in and also.

[Caller/Guest]

Cut on these savings? Well, we'd love to talk about efficiency. I mean, I think, I mean, everyone is interested in government efficiency. This is not government efficiency. This is actually just cutting programs, cutting benefits. There are actually ways of saving resources and saving money. One of those ways is not to give billionaires a huge tax cut.

[Adam Curry]

Nice try, buddy. Now I have two clips that are interesting to me because this is not being covered at all by the mainstream stream. They've almost avoided it assiduously. And these are the two, these are two clips I got from ntd. And there's information in here that it's like, oh, well, that's interesting. How come no one's talking about this? This is the Greenland stuff, which is still in play.

[Caller/Guest]

Here's Greenland's government getting serious about buying Greenland. At a Senate hearing this morning, experts told lawmakers there's a lot at stake in the Arctic. Here's the start story.

[Adam Curry]

The United States acquiring Greenland.

[Caller/Guest]

Serious discussion is underway for the United States to buy Greenland. At a Senate hearing Wednesday, lawmakers and experts discussed what's at stake. Russia and China are both increasing their military presence in the Arctic.

[John C. Dvorak]

They want to be able to control.

[Caller/Guest]

The sea lanes, block freedom of navigation of our commercial and shipping and our military. Senator Maria Cantwell says that Arctic ice is melting, melting which may create vital new shipping lanes that could decrease transit times by over two weeks. She said it's vital for the US to have a strong presence in those waters as well as a strong presence at Greenland's resources.

[Adam Curry]

Greenland sits atop vast reserves of rare earth elements, materials critical for everything from technology to national defense.

[Caller/Guest]

Senator Ted Cruz says controlling those minerals would reduce the world's dependence on China, which has a virtual monopoly on rare earth minerals. But experts say it's not just about economic security, but also physical security. Geographically speaking, Greenland and the US are relatively close, about a four hour flight. Foreign vessels have repeatedly arrived in Greenlandic waters without proper authorization or in violation of NATO protocols.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, there's some reporting, but they're all too obsessed with Elon. Elon.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, well, this is a good distraction because they're keep. But they're missing this story. And now the second clip becomes very interesting. You've never heard of any of this. In one instance, a Russian submarine actually showed up.

[Caller/Guest]

Arctic expert Alexander Gray says Denmark, which owns Greenland, has failed to keep Greenland secure. And the US May need to Step in. Other reasons Greenland is important, a potential source of significant hydropower. Good views near the poles for satellites which need ground stations in the Arctic, undersea infrastructure like telecommunications cables and pipelines. Gray also says the US doesn't have to buy Greenland, which it's tried to do four times already. Instead, America could offer an international agreement called a Compact of Free Association.

[Adam Curry]

Sovereignty by Greenland would be maintained. At the same time, the United States.

[Caller/Guest]

Would have a defense obligation and defense access. Compacts of free association first appeared during the decolonization period of the 20th century. The US already has a compact Compact of Free association with the Marshall Islands, Micronesia and Palau.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, that's interesting. The Compact of Free association, the cofa.

[Adam Curry]

That would be a deal you could do and that's probably what's where we're really headed. We're not going to buy it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Happen.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, but that could happen and that would be the solution to the problem. And not one mainstream media operation is even discussing this. They've just, you're right, they. All they talk about is Elon.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I do have an ABC report which highlights, highlights the American humor which is luckily back. Oh man, I really miss just stupid humor. Little bits of trolling. It's, it's just, it makes you feel good to be an American.

[Caller/Guest]

What at first seemed like a joke was now serious enough for the Senate Commerce, Science and Transportation Committee on Wednesday to hold a hearing entitled Greenland's Geostrategic Importance to US Interests.

[Adam Curry]

Greenland has never been been some remote island. It holds immense strategic and economic importance.

[Caller/Guest]

Currently, Greenland is a self ruling autonomous territory within the Kingdom of Denmark. President Trump mused about acquiring Greenland during his first term in office, but he has recently ratcheted up his rhetoric about the idea, calling it an absolute necessity. Witnesses said Greenland, with its proximity to.

[John C. Dvorak]

The Arctic Ocean and its abundant, rich.

[Caller/Guest]

Rare earth minerals, is critical to US Interests.

[John C. Dvorak]

Greenland has long been a focal point for US Strategists looking to safeguard the.

[Caller/Guest]

Periphery of our hemisphere. But Wisconsin Senator Gary Peters said Trump's assertion that the US Needs to own Greenland to defend American national security is wrong. So I'm disappointed that today we have to address another ill advised Trump administration move against an ally. On Tuesday, Georgia Republican House member Earl Buddy called. Carter submitted a bill, HR 1161. It would authorize the President to enter into negotiations to acquire Greenland and to rename it Red, White and Blue Land.

[John C. Dvorak]

Red, White and Blue Land.

[Adam Curry]

Wow.

[John C. Dvorak]

And then the Danes. Although I doubt this was actually Denmark. You saw the denmarkification.com website?

[Adam Curry]

No.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh yeah. Of Course, the domain name is protected. You can't get the who is information. You know, pussies didn't. Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Curry]

There's not that anonymizer thing is bad. Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's no aboot page. Okay.

[Caller/Guest]

It has sunshine, Silicon Valley and an abundance of of avocados. These are some of the reasons cited in a satirical Danish petition for wanting to buy California from the United States. It's a tongue in cheek response to US President Donald Trump's repeated wish to buy Greenland from Denmark, a proposition rejected by officials in Copenhagen and Greenland. By Wednesday, some 200,000 people had signed the petition, which, along with renaming Disneyland to Hans Christian Andersenland, pledges to bring bikes lanes to Beverly Hills and organic schmarble to every street corner. It adds rule of law, universal health care and fact based politics might apply, but why should Donald Trump give up the Sunshine State? It asks. He's called it the most ruined state in the Union and has feuded with its leaders for years, the website reads. We're pretty sure he'd be willing to part with it for the right price. It echoes comments Trump made about Greenland on his first day in office. Greenland is a wonderful place. We need it for international security and I'm sure that Denmark will come along. Trump first floated the idea of buying Greenland in 2019. The autonomous territory lies on the shortest route from North America to Europe, making it strategically important. It's also home to a large American space facility.

[John C. Dvorak]

Blah, blah, blah, Whatever. It was kind of cute, you know, I doubt the Danes have that kind of humor, so I'm sure it was.

[Adam Curry]

I doubt it's.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sure it was someone else. Isn't Denmark the one that has the brown cheese? I think it's the brown cheese.

[Adam Curry]

What about the brown cheese?

[John C. Dvorak]

I think Denmark has brown cheese. Just hit me all of a sudden that we've had a conversation about the brown cheese from Denmark.

[Adam Curry]

I don't remember this.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah. And someone sent me some and it didn't keep very well in the fridge, if I recall. But it was tasty. It was kind of a little pungent. Then, of course, the other serious bit of negotiation that's going on between Russia and Ukraine.

[Caller/Guest]

US President Donald Trump claims to have had a lengthy and highly productive phone call with Russian President Vladimir Putin. Posting on the social media platform Truth Social, Trump says they discussed negotiations to end the war in Ukraine and added that he's already appointed several officials to lead the talks, the Ukrainian government has revealed. Trump also spoke to President Zelensky on the phone after his call with Putin. The conversation is reported to have lasted an hour, but no further details have been disclosed.

[John C. Dvorak]

And then according to France24, looks like the land retracement is in play.

[Caller/Guest]

Pressure from the US has forced the hand of the Ukrainian president to make a turnaround on his previous position not to give up any territory to Russia. Volodymyr Zelensky has now said he is ready to swap land in negotiation with the Kremlin to try and put an end to the three year war. We're going to talk more about this with our international affairs editor, Kathy Van Gogh Justini, who joins me on the set. Kathman, what more can you tell us about this proposal and how the Kremlin has responded? Well, you put it really well. It's a huge turnaround for Zelensky. Just think that a few months ago, right before the US Election, Zelensky Zelenskyy had said that Ukraine was not willing to make any territorial concessions regardless of the US Election result. And now you have Donald Trump in power. Since then, Zelensky started talking about temporarily maybe ceding some territory to Russia in exchange for joining NATO. And now finally, openly, he says we are willing to talk about a land swap. He, he's talking about something very specific. He says that he's willing to give Russia back the land, the Russian land that Ukraine controls right now in the courts region, which is pretty small compared to what Russia controls out of Ukrainian land. But when he was asked what land would he get in return, he said he didn't know. And he didn't know what the Russians would be willing to cede in exchange for the Corks region. Region.

[John C. Dvorak]

So this is an interesting balancing act that's taking place with the military industrial complex, with NATO, with our own industrial base in the United States. And right now everybody's over in Munich for the big security conference. And Pete Hegseth, our new Secretary of Defense with the crazy Nazi tattoos, that guy, he's wearing a suit. I can't believe it. Then he is holding high level talks.

[Caller/Guest]

US Secretary of Defense Defense Pete Hegseth denied that the US Is betraying Ukraine following comments that Ukraine should not join NATO and that it's up to Europe to protect itself and Ukraine from Russian aggression. Ahead of a meeting with NATO allies in Brussels on Thursday, he reiterated his call that Ukraine should prepare for a negotiated peace settlement and abandon hope to gain back all its territory from Russia. United States, there is no betrayal there.

[Adam Curry]

There is a Russian recognition that the whole world and the United States is invested and interested in peace. A Negotiated peace, as President Trump has said, stopping the killing. And so that will require both sides recognizing things they don't want to.

[Caller/Guest]

In response to the announcement from the Trump administration, NATO chief Mark Rutte urged the group to significantly wrap up their own defense spending, to ramp up defense.

[John C. Dvorak]

Spending because we know actually I'm going to play different clips so they. So Mark Rutte had a nice talk with Pete Hedseth. Hegseth, yes. He's the guy who came to the party with. And we also talked to the other defense ministers and remember that Rutte is working for America. We've forgotten this, but he's working for America. Clearly a lot happened yesterday in the meeting, but also in the media. And no doubt that will be debated today and over the coming days and weeks. Yes, but there's also a clear convergence emerging. We all want peace in Ukraine rather sooner than later. We all want Ukraine to be in the best possible position. Wait a minute. I need you to buy something first. And when those talks start, because, you know, we have to be very afraid because Russia and other threats are coming to make sure that they can be concluded successfully. And as also Pete Hexthat said yesterday, the new American secretary of Defense, it is crucial that whatever comes out of those talks, it is durable, it is enduring. No Minsk 3. No Minsk 3. We cannot have that again. We cannot have Putin again trying to.

[Caller/Guest]

Capture a square kilometer, a square mile.

[John C. Dvorak]

Of Ukraine in the future. Thanks for translating the miles. Then of course, we also discuss today spending. We have to spend more. Yes, we must. I love this guy. We have to spend more in American stuff. Yes, we need the stuffs for Russia. Then of course we also discuss today spending. We have to spend more not only because the US Exposure expects that, because they expect Europe to take its and pay its fair share, but also we have to spend more because we know the threat coming from Russia and from other adversaries is increasing. What other adversaries? And that will be debated today. And here I think there is a clear expectation from the side of the US but also a clear commitment yesterday that this alliance science is here to stay for the generations to come. This guy is great. He's our top sales guy.

[Adam Curry]

He's doing a good job. That's the idea that solves the problem with industrial comps. I have two clips.

[John C. Dvorak]

I have 45 seconds left of him.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, Ruta.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. And we will discuss today the Zenz.

[Caller/Guest]

Industrial base, how to produce more.

[John C. Dvorak]

We are not producing enough. And this is going collective problem we have from the US up to and Including Turkey and including the whole of the European Union. Norway, uk, we have fantastic defense industries, but we are not producing enough. Well, listen, it's not enough because, you know, we are much worse off than Russia. We are producing in three months in ammunition. No, I would say Russia is producing in three months in ammunition, but the whole of the alliance is producing in a year. And this is simply not sustainable. We have to ramp up the defence industry production. So these issues will be on the table today in the ministers of Defense ministers meeting and then afterwards, also in the lunch we'll have with Minister Umarov of Ukraine, where we discuss the relations between NATO and Ukraine. So thank you very much. Maybe a few questions. Yes, I did answer any questions. So I think that they're kind of trying to time this. We need some commitments, we need some orders.

[Adam Curry]

Questions?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

So Russia can make as much ammunition in a month that they can in a year or whatever the comment was. I thought Russia was getting all their stuff from North Korea. They can't do anything.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, please.

[Adam Curry]

I mean, what did that change?

[John C. Dvorak]

That was just another hoax. North Korea just threw bodies at it. Here, have some dudes.

[Adam Curry]

I have two clips called Ukraine is Toast and I think it summarizes as well as anything. This is unfortunately, I spelled Ukraine with.

[John C. Dvorak]

A giant and toast with a's.

[Caller/Guest]

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth is in Brussels today saying Ukraine should not join the NATO alliance. He's the first official of the new Trump administration to visit the NATO headquarters entities. International correspondent Arian Posdar has more on his trip.

[Adam Curry]

The bloodshed must stop and this war must end. Defense Secretary Pete Hexif says the US.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wants to end the fighting in Ukraine. This is ntd, I guess.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. I love this guy. His accent is just fabulous. This is the guy that took the place of. Who is that? The guy who always sounded you with the bad voice that was on ABC or I think, you know, like he was taking a dump.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, oh. Jeff Begay.

[Adam Curry]

Jeff Begay.

[Caller/Guest]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

In opening remarks at a meeting of the Ukraine Defense Contact Group, the Defense Secretary suggests Ukraine will have to take some losses in order to close a peace deal with Russia.

[Adam Curry]

Russia, we want, like you, a sovereign and prosperous Ukraine. But we must start by recognizing that returning to Ukraine's pre2014 borders is an unrealistic objective.

[John C. Dvorak]

Not going to happen, people.

[Adam Curry]

He says the goal of returning to pre 2014Borders in Ukraine was, quote, illusionary. Hexad also talked about Ukraine's NATO and ambitions.

[Caller/Guest]

The United States does not believe that.

[Adam Curry]

NATO membership for Ukraine is a realistic outcome of a negotiated settlement. Instead, any security guarantee must be backed by capable European and non European troops.

[John C. Dvorak]

He added that peacekeepers in Ukraine should be deployed only as a non NATO mission. The Defense Secretary also made clear that.

[Caller/Guest]

No US Troops would go to Ukraine.

[Adam Curry]

Ukraine, also.

[John C. Dvorak]

On Wednesday, the US Treasury Secretary met.

[Caller/Guest]

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in Kyiv.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, interesting.

[Adam Curry]

I stopped it there because. What?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Why? Oh, it's about Swift. It's about the money.

[Adam Curry]

But why would he. What's got to do with Zelensky? Zelensky's not cut out of Swift. The Treasury Secretary went there to say, hey, look. Look at our. Look at our. Look at our numbers here. This is costing us money. We want this money back.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

We want it back in the form of your rare earths.

[John C. Dvorak]

Rare earths.

[Adam Curry]

We want it back in the form of you giving Cary and these other guys a bunch of your land.

[John C. Dvorak]

Y. Y.

[Adam Curry]

We're getting our money back from this. This fiasco. And this is. And so they brought the Treasury Secretary just the way the Treasury Secretary do the meeting with the Zelensky.

[John C. Dvorak]

He brought the receipts.

[Adam Curry]

So. So this. These two clips. The second clip finishes. But good point. This is what's going to happen. No NATO. You lose the Don Bosch, you lose the territory, you lose Donbas, there's no NATO, and you lose Crimea for sure. Stop with that already. And then shut it down. That's what's happening, like it or not. Also on Wednesday, the US Treasury Secretary.

[Caller/Guest]

Met Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in. Keith, this is my first official trip abroad, and it should be a strong.

[Adam Curry]

Signal that the war is a top.

[Caller/Guest]

Priority for the Trump administration. President Trump says he wants Ukraine to use its rare earth minerals as a.

[John C. Dvorak]

Guarantee it will pay back the money the US has sent.

[Caller/Guest]

This way, the US Might also continue sending military aid.

[John C. Dvorak]

Zelensky on Wednesday told reporters that the US had presented a first draft of an agreement. We believe that it provides the further.

[Caller/Guest]

Guarantees for Ukraine people of American assistance.

[John C. Dvorak]

The document is scheduled to be presented at the Munich Security Conference later this week. Yeah, you're right. I hear, by the way, from sources that Zelensky is starting to, I guess, trying to put sanctions against Poroshenko because there's going to be an election soon. There has to be, because they have no. I mean, Zelensky can't really even officially negotiate on Ukraine's behalf because he's not president Dictator. Yes, they have to have elections. And according to sources, law enforcement agencies are already taking steps to investigate Porsche Klitschko and Timoshenko because, you know, he doesn't want one of those guys to become pre. He doesn't want anyone to step up and be.

[Adam Curry]

Klitschko is on his side.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I think. I think that. That ended a long time ago. Klitschko's got strip clubs. He's. He's got like some. Some side hustle going. He got moved. He got moved out.

[Adam Curry]

Strip clubs.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Geez. Strip clubs in Ukraine, huh? Who'd have thunk it?

[John C. Dvorak]

Never saw that one coming. Yeah, it's interesting.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. This is over. This bull crap is over.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Now, there was a little bit of a scare in Munich at the security conference. And what's the lady who just left msnbc? What's her name?

[Adam Curry]

I don't know.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah. Andrea Mitchell.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, right.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. She just had her big send off. And thanks for 8,000 years on MSNBC. You did so great. But she's now a special reporter at the Munich conference in Germany.

[Caller/Guest]

Breaking news oversees. The top sour news at this hour, a suspected terror attack in Germany. A car slammed into a crowd in Munich, which is the site of a global security conference right now. At least 28 people were injured. NBC's Andrea Mitchell is in Munich with the very latest. Andrea, good morning. Good morning, Savannah. There are 28 people taken to hospital. The suspect was driving this white Mini Cooper behind me and drove into a crowd of people who were here. They were not related to the security conference. They were protesters, union public workers protesting for higher wages. So that was not related to any protest against the security conference. As these top leaders were arriving, the Vice president on his way over here from Paris where he had been, and other leaders, the Secretary of State coming here. The suspect is an afghan man. He's 24 years old, they say here. According to authorities, he was seeking asylum here in Germany. Don't know fully the motive, but he is certainly under arrest and communicating with them. He was known to police here for past violations on drug and other criminal charges, but nothing related to terrorism. So that's the situation. Security obviously tight, as all of these leaders are gathering for a major summit. The main focus, of course, is Ukraine and the initiatives by President Trump. Everything that is now happening regarding Ukraine, Zelensky presence, Alinsky also heading here. The conference starting tomorrow.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's a very odd choice of vehicle to mow people down. A Mini Cooper. Thought that was kind of overlooked in the reporting. And the reason when I saw this come in, I'm like, oh, man. Because I wanted to play this clip. This really strange looking young woman with a little bit cross eyed, very odd makeup. Because I couldn't find a report in English of these files that have been uncovered in German Germany that claim that they're, you know, so right now afd, the alternate for Deutschland. We have I think maybe a little bit over a week before the elections. These guys look like they've got a lot of momentum behind them. We already saw the LGBTQIA protests with hundreds of thousands of dudes with wigs and eyeshadow trying to protest. Yeah, I mean, trying to protest what was going on. Which is obviously still a, you know, a last little hurrah from USAID funding into whatever dance party they had afterwards.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, obviously.

[John C. Dvorak]

And. But there they are. There is apparently, and with involvement from the FBI, a false flag attack planned.

[Caller/Guest]

We are the target of a massive conspiracy.

[Adam Curry]

The German government and intelligence agency are.

[Caller/Guest]

Orchestrating a huge false flag campaign which is going to associate the AfD with a real group of terrorists. But it goes beyond that because even the American FBI is involved among multiple international intelligence agencies. The deep state is writing the script.

[Adam Curry]

And the media is going to blow.

[Caller/Guest]

It up in the headlines and on TV with bold photos that completely distort reality.

[Adam Curry]

How do I know this?

[Caller/Guest]

Because a whistleblower leaked the confidential case.

[Adam Curry]

Files to the alternative media outlet Alf.

[Caller/Guest]

Einstein, where they just exposed the full extent of this brutal scheme and this is putting their own existence at a very high risk. The supposed terrorists are the Saxon separatists who were recently arrested in a bloody.

[Adam Curry]

Confrontation with the police wherein one of.

[Caller/Guest]

The suspects got shot. However, it's important to note that the Saxon separatists themselves did not result to any violence. So what are the charges against them? Them, the supposed terrorists are nothing but a group of far right men whose beliefs are outside of the spectrum of what is deemed acceptable.

[John C. Dvorak]

The Saxon separatists.

[Adam Curry]

Saxon separatists, yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sounds like a heavy metal.

[Adam Curry]

Who is that? That was giving that. Who.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's why I said that's that weird girl that you know, she's like on Twitter on X, with a kind of cross eyed, strange makeup.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, I think I've seen her. Yeah, yeah, yes, right, her.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, you know what I mean, that one.

[Adam Curry]

No, I've seen her. She's a. I think she's a blonde. She's got a kind of a round head.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's the one. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And she's. Yeah, she's got some good reports.

[John C. Dvorak]

So I hope they don't do that. Maybe that, that'll be thwarted now because there's no more money coming in. You know, Doge has stopped the payments. Hey, guys, we can't do this op. We didn't get a check. It has to be.

[Adam Curry]

You know, the AFD can get somewhere with you. I like this woman. Alice. Alice, I guess. Alice Veedle.

[John C. Dvorak]

Is that her name?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, she's the head of the thing of the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, oh, you mean the libertarian lesbian. Is she conservative? No, it wasn't a conservative. We discussed the. This.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, she's a conservative. I don't know if she's a lesbian. Yes, she is. Yes, the AfD woman is a lesbian.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm pretty sure. Let me see. Afd. What? Here, let's ask chatgpt. Is the AFD woman a lesbian? Question mark. Let's see what comes out.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Alice Wheedle, co chairman of the Far Right Alternative Alternate.

[Adam Curry]

How far away can they be with a lesbian running?

[John C. Dvorak]

It is an openly. A lesbian lesbian.

[Adam Curry]

Well, she's very talented. I like her.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. And she's tall. She's very tall. Yeah. That's why you're extreme, right?

[Adam Curry]

Because, you know extreme right lesbians. Whoa.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know how. I don't know how any of this works. It's all beyond me. It's all beyond me. Then we have shakeups in New York City which has been interesting to watch, particularly with the mayor. Yes.

[Adam Curry]

We might as well play the Bondi stuff.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay. Is it from.

[Adam Curry]

I have two clips. I have the short and the long, but I think the long form. Bondi must have skipped the short one.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Is it from ntd?

[Adam Curry]

I don't know if it is. I don't think it is.

[John C. Dvorak]

I need different voices. NTD is. All right, here we go.

[Caller/Guest]

Attorney General Pam Bondi announced on Wednesday.

[John C. Dvorak]

That the Justice Department is suing New York over its so called sanctuary city.

[Caller/Guest]

Laws which which prevents law enforcement from arresting illegal immigrants.

[Adam Curry]

Bondi says that the DOJ filed the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Suit against the State of New York.

[Caller/Guest]

Governor Kathy Hochul, Attorney General Letitia James, and State DMV Commissioner Mark Schroeder.

[John C. Dvorak]

Bondi criticized New York's green light laws.

[Caller/Guest]

Saying that they prevent law enforcement from.

[John C. Dvorak]

Accessing an individual's immigration status.

[Caller/Guest]

New York has chosen to prioritize illegal aliens over American citizens. Citizens. It stops. It stops. Today, millions of illegal aliens with violent records have flooded into our communities, bringing violence and deadly drugs with them.

[John C. Dvorak]

The DOJ filed a similar lawsuit last.

[Caller/Guest]

Week against the State of Illinois for.

[Adam Curry]

Such sanctuary city laws.

[John C. Dvorak]

And in announcing the lawsuit on Wednesday, Bondi was joined by the mother of Kayla Hamilton a 20 year old who.

[Adam Curry]

Was raped and killed by by an.

[John C. Dvorak]

Illegal immigrant, an Ms. 13 gang member from El Salvador.

[Caller/Guest]

And he had a criminal record in 2020 in El Salvador for illicit gang activity. He came over as an unoccupied alien child saying that he was afraid of gang activity in his country. Health and Human Services called him a nice boy and he showed age appropriate behavior that fell so wrong, wrong when he murdered my daughter.

[John C. Dvorak]

Last week, Bondi ordered the DOJ to pause all funds to sanctuary cities. Now, it's not clear how long the pause is, but in the meantime, the DOJ is reviewing any contracts in those.

[Caller/Guest]

Cities that may break the law.

[Adam Curry]

Federal law prohibits state and local governments from blocking immigration officers from accessing individual citizenship status.

[John C. Dvorak]

But several sanctuary cities have policies that.

[Caller/Guest]

Restrict local authorities from cooperating with federal immigration officers.

[John C. Dvorak]

And Bondi ordered the DOJ to investigate such incidents. Yeah, another lawsuit she's started late today.

[Caller/Guest]

New Attorney General Pam Bondi revealing a new lawsuit against New York state and its attorney general, Letitia James, the attorney general accusing New York of resisting federal efforts to enforce the nation's immigration laws.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now, can they do that? Can they? I mean, I guess you can sue anybody for anything.

[Adam Curry]

But is yes, they had that one guy, I can't remember his name is always on Fox, who's the professor at Georgetown, the legal guy. And he says they can and they can't. It depends on the loopholes and some of the provisions of the locals. And he thinks they had it's going to be, it's not as cut and dry as you might imagine. But O'Reilly was on Cuomo, Cuomo and he claims that he says no matter what you think about these lawsuits, there's no doubt in his mind, and I think he might be right, that this is Trump getting back at Letitia James.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, for sure. And a little f you with the mayor. Now to New York, where federal prosecutors.

[Adam Curry]

Have been ordered to drop the government's corruption case against Mayor Eric Adams. He had been facing five charges, among.

[Caller/Guest]

Them bribery and fraud. A Justice Department memo says now that.

[Adam Curry]

The case was interfering, however, with Adams ability to help with President Trump's immigration crackdown. CBS News legal contributor Caroline Polisi is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Here for more on this.

[Caller/Guest]

Caroline, thank you very much for joining us. The Justice Department was at pains to.

[John C. Dvorak]

Point out that they're not dropping this based on the merits or a review of the evidence.

[Caller/Guest]

They're not saying he's innocent. So what are they saying here? Right. The memo really is shocking. Shocking, really. It's brazen. It's dripping with politics. Right. As you noted, they are explicitly saying.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is CBS News, by the way. It's dripping with politics.

[Caller/Guest]

Not looking at the merits of this case and the reasons that they're giving for this order to drop the case are one, that it's distracting Mayor Adams from really getting in line with President Trump's immigration. Why the left Hill policies. You know, New York has traditionally been a sanctuary city.

[Adam Curry]

Get up and play that left tell again.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, because, you know, they all think it's, they know Trump is crazy are.

[Caller/Guest]

One that it's distracting Mayor Adams from really getting in line with President Trump's immigration policies. You know, New York has traditionally been a sanctuary city, but Mayor Adams has recently really been getting behind the federal push with ICE agents cooperating even with ICE agents in the immigration. Immigration space. They've also really in this demo.

[John C. Dvorak]

Again, another laugh toe. Is she high? She's high. She's high.

[Caller/Guest]

Federal push.

[Adam Curry]

Now she mentioned she sounds like she's stoned.

[Caller/Guest]

Listen, getting behind the federal push with ICE agents cooperating even with ICE agents in the immigration space, they've also really in this memo pointed to President Trump's, you know, this idea of the weaponization of, of the Justice Department. And Adams was very vocal saying feeling he was persecuted in this prosecution because he publicly spoke out against the Biden administration's immigration policies. There's been a bit of a bromance, if you will, between Adams and Trump. Remember, he had a last minute invite to the inauguration. So this has likely been in the works. But I will note, you know, the memo is saying that it should be dismissed without press prejudice and that the acting head of the Southern District of New York can relook at the charges after the mayoral race in November.

[Adam Curry]

Again, wow.

[Caller/Guest]

So basically he's under. It's a trial.

[John C. Dvorak]

So they've discovered that this is a political move. No. Really? Oh, okay.

[Adam Curry]

CBS race in November. Wow.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[Caller/Guest]

Wow. Basically they're saying we're going to see how you do with getting in line with the Trump policies and then maybe we'll see after the election what we're going to do.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'll tell you one thing, the New Yorkers, they don't care. They don't like him. They think he's just no good. They're so disappointed in Adams because all he did was go to the clubs, hang out with his posse.

[Adam Curry]

Well, he was like he, he promised the world when he ran the first time because he's an ex police, he's going to clean up the city. He's going to do this.

[John C. Dvorak]

They didn't do Jack didn't do any of it. No. Well, he was hampered by the lawsuit over him getting an upgrade. Where's he got an airline upgrade?

[Adam Curry]

Well that came later though. That came much after they started hating him.

[John C. Dvorak]

And then the bulldog Tom Holman upgrade.

[Adam Curry]

Hey, you put you in first class. Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

Tom Holman, the bulldog was Hannity talking about all of this immigration stuff.

[Caller/Guest]

And tonight a very disturbing trend is.

[Adam Curry]

Taking hold as President Trump is implementing his mass deportation policy.

[John C. Dvorak]

I should have said about everything happening in the immigration space.

[Adam Curry]

Looks like every time ICE is preparing.

[Caller/Guest]

To launch a large scale enforcement operation.

[Adam Curry]

In a liberal city, information about that raid is leaked.

[Caller/Guest]

Here with more is Trump administration borders are Tom Holman.

[Adam Curry]

Tom, where are these leaks coming from? Well look, we think it's coming from inside and we know the first leak of Aurora is under current investigation. We think we identified that person under investigation right now. The, the California leak. Secretary Noem, she's correct. Some of the information we're receiving tends to lead toward the FBI. But I talked to deputy attorney general all this weekend. They've opened up a criminal investigation and they have promised that not only this person lose their job and lose their pension, they're going to go to jail, they're going to criminally prosecute. So we're all over it. We got the DHS IG investigating the first one. I have a pretty good idea what happened. Can't share a lot because it's under investigation. But the IG's opened up a criminal investigation on the second one. We're sending a strong message. It's just not, you know, given the bad guys a heads up so they can escape apprehension, arresting, you know, giving, you know, the Venezuela gang a heads up so we can't arrest them. You're putting officers lives at risk. It's only a matter of time.

[Caller/Guest]

If we walk into a place where.

[Adam Curry]

There'S going to be a bad guy doesn't care, he's going to be sitting in wait for the officers to show up and ambush them. This is not a game. So DHS and DOJ are connected at hip to hold these people responsible in a criminal fashion.

[John C. Dvorak]

Bruh.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I had that same clip. I have the. That is this, this is going to happen. They're going to arrest an FBI guy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yep.

[Adam Curry]

For leaking to a criminal that they were going to get busted.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And he made it clear as an FBI guy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

So this once that happens, there's going to be. That's going to take. That's going to be a big deal because that, that opens the door for cash potential to go in. Total ass. You clean that?

[John C. Dvorak]

No. Here's a second part of this.

[Adam Curry]

The people in this country that don't belong here, but among them are known murderers and rapists and terrorists and cartel.

[John C. Dvorak]

Members and gang members and donors.

[Adam Curry]

This is, this is not an easy lift to begin with. And you've expressed confidence that you'll find them all.

[Caller/Guest]

And the question is, how quickly do.

[Adam Curry]

You think we can find them all? Well, sanctuary cities, you know, they're putting up every roadblock possible. No. Rather than arresting the bad guy in the county jail, takes one agent, arrest the bad guy. When they get arrested and put in the county jail, we got to send the whole team to the neighborhood. So it's going to be. It's very difficult in sanctuary cities, but we're going to keep coming. What are we doing about sanctuary cities? I'm going to double the manpower in those sanctuary cities. Sanctuary cities. If we can't get them in their homes, we'll get them to a place of employment. We're going to have large scale work, site enforcement officers, operation. So we're going to send more resources. We're not going to stop. We're going to keep coming. We're going to keep coming with more. We're going to increase the targeting in those cities.

[Caller/Guest]

We're going to get full steam ahead on sanctuary cities.

[Adam Curry]

Sanctuary cities are becoming the priority. Why? Because they're protecting public safety threats and national security threats. So we're going to double the manpower, we're going to double operations, we're going to double targeting. We're coming full bore and they're not.

[Caller/Guest]

Going to stop us.

[Adam Curry]

I'm taking this seriously. I don't sleep well at night because I'm afraid of the people that are walking the streets here every day. Because sanctuary cities will protect them. Sanctuary cities are sanctuaries for criminals, bottom line. So we're going to do everything we can to find them, regardless of what it takes. We got a strong president in the.

[Caller/Guest]

White House that's giving us all the authority we need.

[John C. Dvorak]

We're coming, America.

[Adam Curry]

Guys, Murica's the guy. He's like, what a character. I can almost do his voice. He's got a kind of a muffin. Muffled. He mumbles a lot, but he means business guy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Danielle Sassoon. Danielle Sassoon, acting US Attorney, just resigned after the Justice Department directed her to drop the Eric Adams case. I'm outraged. I'm resigning.

[Adam Curry]

Well, good.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah. It's A lot. So much is happening. I just can't keep up. Can't keep up.

[Adam Curry]

The clips I didn't get because there was just a long series of clips was the Worcester, Massachusetts clips of the bowl of blue haired freaks and everybody in between.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, Joe showed that I was at Rogan yesterday. That's why I didn't do. I couldn't do the newsletter. Couldn't check the newsletter. And Joe showed it to me during the show. It's like, oh man. Because it's, it's a sanctuary city for LG transsexuals. Yeah. You know, someone said. Sent me. We've talked about.

[Adam Curry]

But the thing is, is that these people were making. They were screaming and yelling and they were nuts. They were completely nuts. And the. And the city council knuckled under.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah, they approved it.

[Adam Curry]

I don't know if Joe knew that, but.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I knew that. But it was. I felt just sad. I mean I looked at how these people had makeup and the guy. No woman who dressed as a guy and had glitter to inst. Instead of a beard. I mean this is mental illness.

[Adam Curry]

I have to suggest this. I have two things that. So people can think about these. Is it possible that the blue hair dye causes brain damage? That's one thought, number one.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, possible. That's possible.

[Adam Curry]

That looks toxic to me.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, I'm with you. I'm with you, former chemist. Yes.

[Adam Curry]

And the second thing is acupuncture is real. We know it's real. Is it possible that when you stick a pin through your septum or a nostril, a little nostril ring that you're poking into one of the pathways of an acupuncture pathway that affects the way you think.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm going to get the emails again from guys like, hey man, I'm a big burly guy and I have piercings and I love no agenda. And you. And you're just messing with me because it's not true. People have done this all throughout history.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. And all of them have. They take on certain personality characteristics.

[John C. Dvorak]

So someone sent me an interesting article which is from years ago. We've been talking about trans Maoism, which is what we think this is. There's a new term which is an old term because it comes from an old arch article, bioleninism, which I really like.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it's a nice term. But what does it mean?

[John C. Dvorak]

So regular Leninism was what Lenin did in the 1800s. He raised all of the lower classes as a support base in 1800s. Russia. The lower classes had no prospects for a happy future until Lenin promised them a happy future. So once Lenin gained power, these people became his staunchest supporters. Why? Because they had the most. They had the most tough lose. Lenin elevated them. If Lenin failed or lost power, their only hopes for prosperity would be gone forever. Biolenism is the same idea, except with identity instead of class. Imagine a stereotypical trans. Not implying that all trans people are freaks. Actually, it said freaks. In any healthy society, these people would be suppressed before they could bring our kids to drag queen story hour. Biolenism is where a leader intentionally pursues these people as a support base and elevates them to positions of status, power, and prestige. Why? Because this is such an affront to the natural order of a healthy society that it permanently links those people's prosperity with your own. I think there's something there. I like the term biolenides.

[Adam Curry]

That's fascinating.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Now, is it a better term than trans Maoism?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, it's. At least it's another potential show title. I mean, might as well use it.

[Adam Curry]

Well, there you go. That's all that counts.

[John C. Dvorak]

And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage in the morning to you, the man who put the C in the compact of free association. Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one and only Mr. John C. Devorah.

[Adam Curry]

Well, in the morning to you, Mr. Adam Kern and Mr. Bobs and Nights and dam out there.

[John C. Dvorak]

In the morning to the trolls.

[Caller/Guest]

Hello there, trolls.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let's go, let's go, let's go. All right, we have 2116 as our topper. 2116. Hold on. I lost my. Lost my page here. Isn't that above average once again, 2116.

[Adam Curry]

You know, I don't know how long it's going to take.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's going to take forever.

[Adam Curry]

1800 is our average for Thursday, right?

[John C. Dvorak]

So we're above average.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, we're above average. The podcast is an above average podcast.

[John C. Dvorak]

2160. I completely lost my pin.

[Adam Curry]

It's a good number.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it's a very good number. Here we go. 2116. I note these things and I never go back. And look, I just ask you if it's good or not. So these trolls are in the troll room at Trollroom IO. And you know what's good about these trolls? They are listening live and it's appreciated because you get them providing feedback. And like, I didn't know that Danielle lady had resigned, but they tell me.

[Adam Curry]

That, you know, the other thing, there's something Else that I find this unfortunate. So Horowitz and I had to pre record the DH Unplug show.

[John C. Dvorak]

Why is that?

[Adam Curry]

Well, because I had to go to the Microsoft party, 50th anniversary party.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is why people do not skip the donation segment. Because you're going to tell us about the party after you tell us about the control room.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I'll tell her a little bit about the party. So Mimi says, oh, you guys. What? What happened? I said, I went to the Microsoft party. I told you about this. And she said, oh, yeah, that's right. I said, so you didn't hear the show? She said, no. I said, well, you can always just download it and listen. No, I only listen live.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, how about that?

[Adam Curry]

She wouldn't. She wouldn't download. And she will not listen to a podcast unless it's live.

[John C. Dvorak]

The lady with the podcast business, a podcast stud.

[Adam Curry]

But Angelus. Yes, she doesn't listen to our show unless she listens live.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, interesting.

[Adam Curry]

And she'll say stuff like, oh, yeah, I was listening, and then somebody called. I had got on a phone call, so I didn't hear the rest of it. She won't. And so I'm thinking that she's not the only one in the world that does this that only listens live and won't really listen. Like a podcast is supposed to be listened to, which is a podcast.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, people like listening live, and of course, we make that very [e-mail] Also, you can use the modern podcast apps. I think Fountain just released a new version that has the chat built in. I'm not sure if it's the same. I gotta look into it. But you can find any of these modern podcast apps will alert you when we go live, which is kind of cool. And of course, if you miss it and you're not like Mimi, then you can always listen to the podcast as it's automatically downloaded 90 seconds after we release it. And it's also healthier for you. And I'm gonna get back to that note and then we'll come back to the Microsoft off party. I've always said that it is a bad idea to speed listen to podcasts because, I mean, the only health reason I noticed and heard from and got confirmation from is that when you're listening to podcasts at 1.5 or double speed, then when your wife or your kids, you know, they talk to you, you're irritated by him. Hurry up and just get it out. What do you want to say? Come on, come on, come on.

[Adam Curry]

Say it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Say it already, kid. What do you want? I was school. So it's not healthy. It's not good for your home life.

[Adam Curry]

And I gotta note, you're probably right.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, I'm sure I'm right because I've got confirmation. But I got a new piece of confirmation from Air John is his nickname, I guess. Just wanted to tell you that I had circular hair loss at my neck.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yes, this is a good note.

[John C. Dvorak]

There was a big hole in my beard. You do not want a big hole in your beard. Everybody said to me it must be stress. Then I remembered that episode where you said that listening at 1.5x is really bad. I was doing that because some douche on another podcast suggested it. As I'm notoriously dozens of episodes behind, I thought I could catch up. So I stopped listening at speed. Went back to normal listening and after a couple months. Months? My beard grew back. I'm convinced speed listening was the reason. Can't thank you guys enough. Hope to make another donation soon. How about that?

[Adam Curry]

I think it's prop. It's possible.

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean, no Agenda. Now wait, let me see. I'm trying to think of the commercial. No Agenda. Your solution to alopecia? Come on, ladies. Are you losing your hair? Listen to no Agenda in real time. So you had to go to the Microsoft party.

[Adam Curry]

Well, it was the 50th anniversary of all of Microsoft. Of the company.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it's been around for 50 years.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, believe it or not.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow.

[Adam Curry]

So they had three events. They had. Well, there's one in San Francisco, one in different times, one in New York and one up north. And it was a dud. It was unbelievable.

[John C. Dvorak]

A dud.

[Adam Curry]

By the way, I didn't make recontact with the Lib Joe's, he did. I think we're going to be back on track with more betting.

[John C. Dvorak]

More betting. More betting.

[Adam Curry]

Betting is going to be tough.

[John C. Dvorak]

What did they say? What did the Lib. Were they both the Lib Joes? You saw both of them?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, they were both there.

[John C. Dvorak]

Would they say, hey, you're still alive? What did they say?

[Adam Curry]

No, you look good.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's what they said.

[Adam Curry]

Everyone says to each other.

[John C. Dvorak]

Were you wearing your MAGA hat at the.

[Adam Curry]

No, I wasn't. We didn't even talk about politics.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, wow. Okay.

[Adam Curry]

And so I know it's all about stories, but the thing with the event itself was in this place called Shack 15. It was a. It's a. I showed it to Jay and I was describing it to her. I said, this is a depressing operation the shack 15. You go in there, it's just a huge room after room after room of people with just these opened like family style dining tables everywhere and people on laptops just working. And she said, oh, that's a live work, live. That's a workspace, something or other. I don't know, like we work, I guess we work. We work was kind of like this.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And I said, well, no, it was a private club. She says, yeah, they're all private. You have to join these things. And I, and I said, it's the most depressing thing I've ever seen. There's all these people. I said, why don't they just work at home? I mentioned to one of the guys, no, because they want to get out of the house. House. And so they sit there by themselves. They're not mingling. There's nobody, just not. It's not like a social club, it seems. It's just depressing to see all these kids. Oh, you know, they're all in the 20s on laptops, all. Just hundreds of them, literally hundreds of them scattered.

[John C. Dvorak]

Were they at the party?

[Adam Curry]

No, no, the party was in one of the separate rooms and there were room after room after room. There's all these special rooms. And so this used to be, I believe the World Trade Center Club, which was a big operation at one time. And so we were in a separate room and it was. There was no banners and it was no. There's not a woman at the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Was there cake? Was there a cake?

[Adam Curry]

No, there was no woman giving out champagne. There should have been a champagne girl right at the front. Here's champagne.

[John C. Dvorak]

Was there a chocolate fountain?

[Adam Curry]

No.

[John C. Dvorak]

How about some of those shrimp deals?

[Adam Curry]

They had an hors d'oeuvre guy coming around with the worst tasting crab things. I couldn't even get through it.

[John C. Dvorak]

No shrimp deals.

[Adam Curry]

No shrimp. Piles of shrimp. There's no caviar, nothing. No caviar bar.

[John C. Dvorak]

No caviar. Oh my God.

[Adam Curry]

No caviar. They had a bar and then they had just. There was no signage.

[John C. Dvorak]

Was there a freak off afterwards?

[Adam Curry]

There was. It was the worst. And then the thing that was really disappointing was there was no go bag.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, no.

[Adam Curry]

Nothing. They didn't. They had a couple of buttons. There's a couple of buttons that were the souvenir buttons that were used. Useless. And then they had. There was no T shirt or a 50th anniversary, anything. It was the. It was un. It was like they were ashamed of being a company.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow. Was Bill G there?

[Adam Curry]

No. Nobody was There except a bunch of PR people.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow.

[Adam Curry]

And the show out. Was the show up. The turnout was mediocre. Maybe 45 people. That could have been hundreds.

[John C. Dvorak]

45. Wait a 50th anniversary of Mike Microsoft with 45? Was there. Was there a dude in a giant Zune costume?

[Adam Curry]

There was nothing. It was the. It was unbelievably lame. It was the most lame thing. If it wasn't for re meeting the. The Libjos, it would have been. Wouldn't even be worth my time. There was a woman there from Politico. For some unknown reason, I gave her a little grief and she got mad at me. What did you say?

[John C. Dvorak]

What did you say?

[Adam Curry]

I said, oh, you guys are in trouble. I stopped pointing at her.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, you didn't.

[Adam Curry]

You guys are in trouble. I don't think so. I don't think political.

[John C. Dvorak]

Political pro is different, man.

[Adam Curry]

Anyway, but. And there was a little gather. There wasn't even mixing that was any good. It was only people that knew each other.

[John C. Dvorak]

Was there a guy?

[Adam Curry]

Terrible.

[John C. Dvorak]

Was there a guy in a clippy outfit? Was there. I mean, they could have done so much fun stuff.

[Adam Curry]

No, there was that. They knew it was. You know what? It's one of those things. They knew it was going to be a dud from the get go. That's why they let it be a dud.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now, who invited you? The PR company?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. No, the pr. No, it was all internal. So it was a PR guy that looked with the. One of our. One of the PR guys from my Old Timer. And I did meet some guy who came up to me at the end. I was trying to leave. He says, oh, you know, you introduced himself. Because of you, I became a writer. Blah, blah, blah. He went on, I kind of. I was trying to get out of there, so I think I blew him off. But I told him, hey, listen to the podcast. He said, I listen to the podcast. Podcast. And I now I felt bad about it. So if the guy's listening to the podcast, he should email me because I.

[John C. Dvorak]

Want to get in touch with him. But he will call him out. Call him out.

[Adam Curry]

I don't have his name. I forgot. You know, I was just getting out of there, so I don't remember his name.

[John C. Dvorak]

He was one of those irritating people. You're on your way. Yeah, that's great. Hey, man. Yeah, that was.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. Well, that's. That part's accurate. You got this. That right.

[John C. Dvorak]

Is it possible that there was a. A real party and you got invited to the. To the fake one or something?

[Adam Curry]

You'd think so, but it. But the fact that. That John Markoff was at this party who's a. The lib Joe, who was a Lib Joe, who was. Who went to the. To the hangouts in. At the Hood Canal and there were other couple of hot shots there that were at the high end indicates no to that theory.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now, so this. So this started.

[Adam Curry]

It was just a dog. It was a howler.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow, that is very disappointing.

[Adam Curry]

And then it was. And it was in this depressing Shaq 15 operation, which according to Jay was. Oh, yeah, that's the way they are. I'm thinking who. Who is into. This is the. This is what entrepreneurs can put. This is terrible. There's these live work things.

[John C. Dvorak]

I was talking to Joe about D.C. about at the inauguration, and actually I talked to his security guys before Joe showed up. They said D.C. was a lunatic mess. There was no one knew how to get anywhere. All the streets were shut off. There are all these high. Everyone there. Everyone in D.C. had donated at least a million dollars to a campaign. And Joe said it was horrible. I'd be stupid.

[Adam Curry]

I got invited to an argument inauguration.

[John C. Dvorak]

I never mentioned he'd be standing there.

[Adam Curry]

But it costs money.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well, of course Joe went because he got the president elected.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, Joe should get in for free.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, but the. I'd just be standing there and people would jump in and start taking selfies and, you know, and they all had kind of a. Like, it was very transactional. Like, oh, you know, everyone felt like they had the right to just jump in and butt in on a conversation. He said it was really nice, not fun. And then I asked him, I said, how far are you from Hillary Clinton? He said, about three rows. Said, did you smell sulfur? He didn't smell sulfur. He said he smelled a lot.

[Adam Curry]

Did he get the joke?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, he got the joke. And I asked him, I said straight up, was it Biden or Daddy Long Legs? He said, I was pretty sure it was the real Biden because he knew all about Daddy Long Legs. But. Yeah, he said it was a mess.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it doesn't surprise me, but this is a. Maybe people can't do events anymore. I have no idea. But this thing was a joke. And it was. It was kind of an embarrassment, I thought. But they felt pretty good about it, I guess. And they. But what irked me the most was the lack of the go bag. I mean, come on.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Bill Gates just came out with a new book that could have been in there. A T shirt could have been in there. A coupon could have been in there. There's a lot of stuff that could be in there. Nothing.

[John C. Dvorak]

A co pilot discount, discount code. Bongino.

[Adam Curry]

Yep. There could have been a lot of stuff in a go. No, no go bags.

[John C. Dvorak]

Very bad.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, and here's the real kicker.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, but wait, there's more.

[Adam Curry]

You go in. You know, when you go into a big event or something that's supposed to be a big event, you usually go to the desk and they check you in and then you. And there's a pile of name cards, you know, there.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And you look around. Oh, so. And so is down. You see these other people's names.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

You know, and you. Oh, I can wait for them to get here. And you just see, everybody does. Look over the names.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's what you do. Look around. Oh, look at that guy. Oh, oh. Ryan Reynolds. Ryan Reynolds.

[Adam Curry]

All blanks. Here's a pen. Write your name on there.

[John C. Dvorak]

What? They didn't even have a printer.

[Adam Curry]

They didn't even have a printer to print people's names. Can you believe that? Here. And the problem was there's a lot of Z's and millennials there. They can't even write. So you look at the name tags. It's just some scribble. You can't even make it out. It was just unbelievable.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow. That is the worst report I've ever heard.

[Adam Curry]

It just was the worst thing I've been to probably for a decade.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow. Well, that was valuable information. I don't know if people will think that they need to support us for this type of reporting.

[Adam Curry]

They should.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you, you, you, you, you braved some really tough stuff there.

[Adam Curry]

Hey, I'm bringing it home.

[John C. Dvorak]

You are. You're bringing. You're bringing the bacon, man. Good deal. Yeah, we are value for value. Which means you can support us with your time, your talent, or your treasure. And I'll. I'll tell you now, you know, Sir Daniel, he has done. He set up no agendameetups.com. he has released a new version, which is. I mean, there's all. He did a lot, lot. Did you see all the. All the new stuff he did?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. It's like this is classic guy. They can't just leave this stuff alone.

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean, well, like, this, like. Fixed an email bug would stop attendees from emailing organizers. Fixed more reliable email delivery. This was a big problem. Fixed site should be much faster than before. Fixed innumerable small visual fixes and updates fixed. Hundreds of spam accounts removed. Thank you. Updates to the newest version of the core plugins. Updated, revamped look for my meetup space. Updated accounts page. You know, that's value right there. Also, new thing. Yeah, an RSVP page. If you're logged in as a fresh theme. Fresh theme. Fresh, fresh theme. Then a new view for recently added a bit. What I'm trying to say here is this is the kind of stuff that people do for value and it's very valuable to us because we could never afford to have people doing this stuff and setting it up and maintaining it and updating it. We couldn't even bring ourselves to have a meeting about updating it. So we thank our dude's name, Ben and Dudette's name Bernadette for providing immense value in this way. And we also want to thank our artists who provide a lot of value by enabling us to have fresh artwork for every single episode. And for 1737, that was the episode from Sunday. We titled it Wrong Puberty. We want to thank Sir Shug, Sir Shug, AKA Folk Diddly for his going round and round USAID bus, which was a little contentious. You know, he was even surprised I saw that. He was like, wow, I can't believe. I can't believe I was picked. But he was. And why was he picked?

[Adam Curry]

Well, I'm the one who pushed it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, you did. Well, that's why he was picked. Right. Because typically we would do a Super bowl image and I think you said something to the effect of, yeah, why that commercial piece of crap? Why should we do that?

[Adam Curry]

I think that's what you said in that voice.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. It's uncanny, isn't it?

[Adam Curry]

I think that's exactly unbelievable.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think it's exactly what you said and people had kind of counted on it because there's a lot of super bowl art and we did not pick the super bowl art. Of course, a lot of people doing. Don't do Taylor Swift. If you're doing Taylor Swift, you're just throwing your energy. Energy away. We're not going to do that. I mean, there's always an exception to the rule that proves the rule. But no, it was just really. Let's see, what else did we look at that we kind of liked?

[Adam Curry]

Well, there was a piece I think you liked.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I had to laugh at the Farmer's Wife, a nice hand drawn piece of art which she drew, apparently a book history the Remakes by AI I just like that she put something up there.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. See, when I looked at all these pieces, there was nothing I liked at all. Except this one piece thought There was one other piece.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let me see. I have to go to the next page here. I thought there was one other piece that we. A lot of hairy balls. Yeah. What was the. Darren O'Neill had, you know, a couple Curry and Dvorak 33 shirts. Shirts on like football jerseys. And I'm a 8ft tall Chad of a guy. And you're a chick. Yeah, that was odd.

[Adam Curry]

That wasn't gonna happen.

[John C. Dvorak]

Then in another one I'm a black guy with.

[Adam Curry]

With, you know, with a fro. And I'm a bald guy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Adam Curry]

That wasn't gonna work.

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean we looked at Ghost sports ball, but it's like. Nah, that was just. That was too easy. That was at.

[Adam Curry]

There was a lot of art. We had to say that.

[John C. Dvorak]

There certainly was a lot of art.

[Adam Curry]

Avocado chips.

[John C. Dvorak]

We did like Joe Dirks, Value for value.

[Adam Curry]

Oh yes, that's right. Vivaid.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

I like that piece. I was gonna. That's a good piece. I have to agree. I did like that piece.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, that was good. I think that was it. I mean there's other things here. But the good news is you can take a look at this yourself by going to noagendaartgenerator.com and you can participate in this fabulous contest. Noagendaartgenerator.comand it's not only artwork that goes onto the album art, but we use this. A lot of these pieces. Dreb Scott does the chapters and the modern podcast apps and people like it. You can jump in and it's also a visual cue. Ah, okay. I see a blue haired freak. Oh, I know what segment that is. That's John's TikTok clips. So you can jump around and it's cool. Thank you very much. Suge faux diddley aka faux faux diddly for your artwork for episode 1737. Now we want to thank everybody who supported the show financially of the three T's time, talent and treasure. In this segment, we thank the executive and associate executive producers. And they are executive producers because they came in $200 or above. And then you get this real credit which you can use anywhere. Credits are recognized, which includes IMDb.com and we'll read your note, $300 and above. You come in, executive producer and we will also read your note. And we started off with an old favorite. He's back. Sieronymous of Dogpatch in Lower Slovovia.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, he must be very busy. The note was very short.

[John C. Dvorak]

It was short and it does make a point. Yeah. So 2486. We do not know what these numbers mean. It's always different. It's always cash. It always includes $2 bills. So we want to make sure we mention the code. Code 2486.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. And it's double counted to make sure we are accurate.

[John C. Dvorak]

From sierranimus of Dogpatch in Lower Slovia says, I am pleased to continue supporting the best public service podcasts in the universe. Included is payment for my no Agenda plus bundle subscription. It seems obvious that vacating Gaza will not succeed. The US and Europe are fighting immigration while presupposing millions of Palestinians can be moved to other countries. There is too much regional wealth and existing conflicts. Conflicts to be bullied by the U.S. i think he's got a point here. I think we agree with him.

[Adam Curry]

Well, it follows in line with my thinking, which is this is bull crap anyway.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah, I agree.

[Adam Curry]

This is just a jack them up so they could get to work.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. Jordan will probably be the odd man out here. They're probably gonna. They're probably gonna do something. Well, thank you very much, Sir Animus of Dogpatch and Lois Labovia. Always good to hear from you. And I hope the code is successful. Thank you. We appreciate your value.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, well, we missed him for the last three months. I think November. November was.

[John C. Dvorak]

Was it November?

[Adam Curry]

I think November is. Last time we heard from him, we didn't get this.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm just happy he's alive. You never know with this guy. Yeah, if we do the code wrong, I mean, could be drastic.

[Adam Curry]

You never know. Well, that's why we double count.

[John C. Dvorak]

Double count.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, we got Vesely. Vesely.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yep.

[Adam Curry]

In Portland. 667. This finally makes me a knight. Should be the Peerage Committee. Should the Peerage Committee agree, I wish to take the title of Sir Vesely of the Cedar Hills, of which I reside. He also assumes it qualifies him for the rank of Commodore. We reintroduced the Commodore ship for two shows where people missed out. And he'll get one of these Commodore ships.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, okay. I didn't. Oh, you put that in the newsletter. I must have missed that. So you re.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it was. Right.

[John C. Dvorak]

You reintroduced the Commodore ship just for.

[Adam Curry]

Two shows just to jack up some donations. We got one guy that took it.

[John C. Dvorak]

One guy took the bait.

[Adam Curry]

Hey, one guy's enough.

[John C. Dvorak]

We'll take him. Thank you. Vesely. Vesely. And so he'll be a knight. Yes, we'll be knighting in a bit. Kathleen Runyon is in Belle shaft, Belchess, L.A. 377.73 ham donation. She says I donate on behalf of my no Agenda co pilot husband, Will, AKA call sign Hard Time, who was also a marine helicopter pilot in real life. These are the, these are the guys you want listening. He finally deserves a deduching.

[Adam Curry]

You've been de douched.

[John C. Dvorak]

And check this out. He. He introduced me to no Agenda while we were dating. Now married with a child on the way, we still listen to no Agenda while cooking dinners during the week. It's one of our favorite times together. Thank you both for all you do. And I wish you all would keep going for another 10 years at least. Happy Valentine's Day, baby. Allocate donation to William Nutting, please. That will be Will, AKA call sign Hard Time. Yeah, that's right. Call sign Hard Time. Yeah. All right, we'll take care of you.

[Adam Curry]

Reese Craig in Calgary, Alberta, Canada in the morning. Reese and Alex brothers, longtime listeners, first time bongino code users. In this season of reveal, we present to you a classic whodunit, Violet Shadow. This is a switcheroo for our sister Greta. Okay, switcheroo. Greta, the writer, producer and director of Violet's Shadow. Love you, Greta. Cannot tell you how proud we are of you and your work, Alex and Reese. Released on February 3rd, Violet Shadow is a fictional murder mystery radio play set in Ireland with a ensemble cast cast of voice actors. It's the perfect binge for Valentine's day. New episodes of Violet's Shadow are released for free weekly on old fashioned podcast apps. Yeah, take a look at it or listen. Glad to be part of the best podcast in the universe. Thank you for your courage. God bless.

[John C. Dvorak]

Nice three.

[Adam Curry]

33. 33.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm sure it will also be on the modern podcast apps, but that's cool. I love me a good radio drama, audio drama. Looking Forward to it. February. February 3rd. So it's out. We should go find it. Then we go to Wisconsin. Tomahawk, Wisconsin. Surnonymous sends us 233.33 Associate Executive Producership for him. And he says, hey fellows, this is a Switcheroo for my third and final human resource for his 25th trip around the sun. And on the show day, no less. Happy birthday to my dude named Ken programming the machine machines that make jet engines that grind up people that are inconvenient. Yeah, dude named Kenny just put that in. That makes switcheroo. They grind up people who are inconvenient. Yeah, I don't doubt that. By the way, your commentary on Scott Horton and libertarians was a bit off. The mark. I'm sure you'll get a lot of other commentary since your audience is, I'm guessing over 50% libertarian adjacent. Because you guys are too, whether you know it or not. My only comment is that I'm a little disappointed that you didn't roll a log for part of the problem after lifting those Horton clips from Dave's show. They are good people doing good work and don't deserve the derision. Keep up the good work. Keep up the good work. Four more years. No jingles, no karma. Synonymous Spirit of the Northwoods noted. Thank you. Appreciate it.

[Adam Curry]

Noted. What derision?

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know. It's all you, baby. I just said they were boring clips. That's all I did.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, well, maybe that was the derision. You said they were boring.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, but that was a slam on you. I was slamming you, man.

[Adam Curry]

That's what the note was about that we got from that other guy.

[John C. Dvorak]

What other guy?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, you were slamming me. You were doing what you do, which is every time I have boring clips off the wall, you say it's boring when it wasn't. Sir Tooth Fairy's up. He's in Valparaiso, Indiana. 220 from Sir Tooth Fairy. This donation would be higher if I was listening to Sunday show live and heard JCD super bowl prediction before the game. John, that was scary accurate. You guys might actually know what you're talking about. No jingles, no karma.

[John C. Dvorak]

There you go.

[Adam Curry]

Realize what's going on with a row of ducks.

[John C. Dvorak]

222.22. Sir Fat dad is back from Little Rock, Arkansas. He's Sir Fat dad of the BMXicans. I rem. I have been remiss in my donation. So enjoy this row of ducks requesting some. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't have this set up. He wants some F35 karma. And what else does he want here? Oh, F35 race karma for the Show Me State national this weekend in Springfield.

[Caller/Guest]

You've got karma.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, I. I saw a. A post on X from Ashland Speed and she says the no Agenda fans will be very happy in two weeks time. I'm thinking we're back on the car, baby.

[Adam Curry]

We're back on the car.

[John C. Dvorak]

We're back on the car.

[Adam Curry]

Sir Ju Claw in Prairieville, Louisiana. 22080 to my dearest Valentine, Dame Mary Moon. By the way, this is a 214 donation. My dearest Valentine, Dame Mary Moon from Sir Jewclaw. There you go.

[John C. Dvorak]

And we have David. Sir David Fugazotto, who is the Duke of America's heartland and the Arabian Peninsula. I believe he's in Missouri. And this is also a 214 donation plus fees. To my lovely bride, Damien Melody. You are the best. Happy St. Valentine's Day and thank you for your courage.

[Adam Curry]

Nice. Joe is up. Joe terrio in Woodstock, Illinois. 220 is probably the same thing. I'm guessing that didn't get the 87 cents charged to him for some reason.

[John C. Dvorak]

Interesting.

[Adam Curry]

Your favorite county clerk from last. From the last red county in the Chicagoland area. I wanted to extend a special discount offer to the members of the Gitmo Nation. I'm co hosting the America First Leadership Dinner with Lara Trump in the Chicago burbs on the February 21st. It will be a great event with inspiring speakers, an exceptional dinner, and a room full of the area's most interesting people.

[John C. Dvorak]

But will they have a go bag? Will they have badges? Pre written. Pre written badges.

[Adam Curry]

Visit Mick mcgopac.com that's MickGOPAC. MickGOPAC MCGOPAC. To reserve your seat and use the coupon code ITM for 25% off.

[John C. Dvorak]

No. $25.

[Adam Curry]

25. Even better. Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

If it pleases John and the pod father, give me a shot of election karma for my 2026 run.

[John C. Dvorak]

We're hobnobbing with the politics. I like it. Very nice. Very nice.

[Adam Curry]

Joe Terrier, County Clerk. That's right.

[John C. Dvorak]

County Clerk. That's right.

[Adam Curry]

County Clerk.

[John C. Dvorak]

William Hoggie. Hoggy, I think. Hoggy. Elkhart, Indiana. No, I'm sorry. My last name is pronounced Hoy. Quow. Okay. H A U G H E E. William Hoy.

[Adam Curry]

Hoy. Hoy. Hoy.

[John C. Dvorak]

So his name is Hoy and Becca is his valentine. That's the nose. Yeah. It's beautiful. That's 214, by the way.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. Bowman McMahon is also 214. He's in San Antonio, Texas. And he says, John and Adam, that Stone nation calls me and my lady tonight in damehood, I would like to apply the remainder forward to. I'm sorry, the remainder. Remainder toward a posthumous baron hood for my late dad, James McMahon. Now, he's not in highlighted. Calls me and my. Namely to night and damehood. I don't know.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hold on, I'll.

[Adam Curry]

I don't think he's on the list. So I think, or I think this is just a headed. Headed that way is what I have to assume.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I guess so. Okay, that makes sense.

[Adam Curry]

This is the mark, the occasion of y'all clipping Scott Horton. Boy, this thing pays off in spades. As Scott Horton guy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, we got to do this more often.

[Adam Curry]

Host of the other greatest podcast in the universe. There's no such thing.

[John C. Dvorak]

The funny thing is, if you look at the X posts from, you know, people, about 38 followers, it's like, that's it. I'm never donating again. And what happens is people donate more. This is a gang gambit. Good work, Dvorak.

[Adam Curry]

You're very welcome. Scott horton show from theantiwar.com if this. If his broadcast warrants media deconstruction, this is great news.

[John C. Dvorak]

There you go.

[Adam Curry]

All caps. Thanks for all y'all do. I too am a Texas hail. Troy's a Texas guy. Troy's a Texas Hill country native and will soon host a no agenda meetup. Matthew 10:34. Talk about it. Love and peace.

[John C. Dvorak]

Matthew 10:44. Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring bring peace, but a sword. We just talked about it. Thank you. By the way, that Texas. We don't. We're not here wearing coveralls with no undershirt and. And have straw in our mouth.

[Adam Curry]

John.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hill country is sophisticated.

[Adam Curry]

This is Dallas, actually.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hill country is sophisticated. Vic Ogborn.

[Adam Curry]

Hill country is filled with guys. No coveralls.

[John C. Dvorak]

No. Vic Ogburn is in Charlotte, North Carolina, and he says, another switcheroo. Please give this donation and give a birthday shout out to my favorite human resource, Olivia, who turns 10 February 13th. That's today. Olivia Ogburn. Okay, Olivia is on the list. And happy birthday. And she loves Kamala and. Oh, she loves Kamala. And she would really. Why does she love Kamala?

[Adam Curry]

I think she likes the biscuit for a birthday.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, it's not Kamala, but they always.

[Caller/Guest]

Give me a biscuit on my birthday.

[John C. Dvorak]

There you go.

[Adam Curry]

That was Kamala.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, it's not. It's not. That's what I thought, but it's not Kamala. It's from a movie. It's a mo. Clip from a movie.

[Adam Curry]

Well, it sure sounds like Kamala.

[John C. Dvorak]

I know, I know.

[Caller/Guest]

They always give me a biscuit on my birthday.

[John C. Dvorak]

From now on, we'll just say it's Kamala. Thank you for your courage, says Vic. And thank you. Thank you very much. And, Olivia, you're in the credits as an associate executive producer for the 201315 donation.

[Adam Curry]

Eli, the coffee guy, here he is. He's in Bensonville, Illinois, if you want to find him. $202.13. I would like to wish my extremely talented wife Jen a happy Valentine's Day. Marrying her was a great decision, but Making her my business partner was the best choice I ever made because she's a designer. Jingles boogity. Amen. For producers who want to see why I kick beyond. What is that thing fell. Why kicked beyond my coverage, visit gig. Why I kicked beyond my coverage.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, he's.

[Adam Curry]

He married up.

[John C. Dvorak]

He married up.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. And it's a football term. That's when you punt the ball past the coverage and the guy can and analyze better and make a longer run. You don't want to kick past your coverage. This little football, by the way.

[John C. Dvorak]

How about that 50 yard field goal?

[Adam Curry]

Nothing last this last season. These guys are kicking 50, 55, 60. It's unbelievable how these field goal kickers are kicking these 50 yard field goals. When I would say 20 years ago it would be like, wow, 30. And this last year, this must have been 30 or 40 of them.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it was good.

[Adam Curry]

I know it's right. And this guy was good right down.

[John C. Dvorak]

And he had to re. Kick was like, oh, no, it's no good. Kick again. Oh, man, I just made that awesome feel. I'll do it again. That was good. No, no, no. No chokers there.

[Adam Curry]

No, there's some, some really talented kickers in the NFL. It's amazing. For producers who want to see why I kicked beyond my coverage, visit gigawatt coffeeroasters.com Jen is not a professional graphics designer yet. Actually, she is.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think so.

[Adam Curry]

No, she is. If you did something for money, you're a professional. You're a professional. You just thought like you had to work for somebody.

[John C. Dvorak]

She might, he might not have paid her.

[Adam Curry]

Work wife. Work, work.

[John C. Dvorak]

Do some work. Draw something for my coffee wife.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, well, that's possible. Well, she gets half of it. So she's. She's professional or a professional web designer, but you wouldn't know that looking at her work. Remember to use code ITM for 20% off your order. Stay decaffeinated as Adam does. And Happy Valentine's Day. Eli, the coffee guy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. The code is ITM20 so everyone understands what I say. You said ITM.

[Adam Curry]

I said ITM.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, instead of ITM20.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, sorry.

[John C. Dvorak]

And Eli, thank you very much for the most recent shipment. You can stop for four weeks. He's all. He's sending too much. We can't.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, you. Yeah, I actually have a couple of. Yeah, I'm, I'm a couple back.

[John C. Dvorak]

We love you, brother, but you can stop for.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, six weeks from now.

[John C. Dvorak]

Maybe it's like Tina's. Like we have no more room to store the Coffee.

[Adam Curry]

Put it in the freezer.

[John C. Dvorak]

And then we have Linda Loupatkin from Lakewood, Colorado, with $200. And she asked for Jobs Karma and says for a resume that gets results, visit Image Makers, Inc. Are you okay?

[Adam Curry]

I just wanted to catch up. Flubbing is the blurt. For some reason, her copy is flubbing. Flubbable.

[John C. Dvorak]

Visit Image Makers. You know why? It's the way it's written. ImageMakers-inc.SpaceSpace. com. That's why. Visit ImageMakers Inc.com your go to for all of your executive resumes and job search needs. That's Imagemakers, Inc. With a K. And work with Linda Lou, duchess of jobs and writer of resumes. And she finishes up with a Happy Valentine's Day.

[Caller/Guest]

Jobs, Jobs, Jobs.

[John C. Dvorak]

And jobs.

[Adam Curry]

Let's vote for jobs. Oh, we have more.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. What? The green one. Last one.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, Catherine May McCloskey. It looks like in Brookline. Oh, Brookline, Massachusetts. It goes without saying that, but I will anyway that we love the show. Four more years will not be enough. Would you kindly send some Jobs Karma for my husband? Mo. Thanks. Our best, Kate McCloskey. Jobs, jobs, jobs.

[John C. Dvorak]

And jobs.

[Adam Curry]

Let's vote for jobs.

[John C. Dvorak]

And that concludes our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1738 of the Best Podcast in Universe. Thank you to these people who now have these credits. And of course, you'll be listed on the Show Notes page. And in addition to that, that credit is valid for the rest of your life. You can use it anywhere. Credits are recognized in Showbiz land for sure, as an example, on IMDb.com, but you can also put it on your LinkedIn or on your Twitter profile, wherever you want to. And thank you so much. We'll be thanking everybody $50 and above. In our second segment, our formula is this.

[Adam Curry]

We go out, we hit people in the mouth.

[Caller/Guest]

Order.

[Adam Curry]

Order.

[Caller/Guest]

Shut up, slave. Shut up, slave.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, no. Oh, you know what? I forgot Eli's. Sorry, Eli. I made good on it, though. Yes. No agenda. Donations.com.

[Adam Curry]

I have a clip. Oh, unless you want to go into something. But I have a return engagement of the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Is it talk? Is this a talk clip?

[Adam Curry]

Well, it's not. It's actually. I don't even know where this shows up. This is the Cannibal professor. Oh, we've played her before.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. We even had an industry professor of black studies. Yes. And she claims that in America, we ate black people.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, that was a. Because we're all cannibals. Well, she's got new information.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, new stuff is coming to light.

[Caller/Guest]

The reason we don't have a lot of Egyptian mummies is because white people ate them. And it wasn't just one or two. They ate them by the hundreds and almost to extinction. It was during the Victorian era. And if you know anything about the Victorian era, it was a long time after Egypt, what is already well established. And if you know anything about Egypt, it is a very complex civilization. That's where we had the hieroglyphs. That's where we had large, large towering statues and figurines that that one's mind simply just could not comprehend on how it was created. It was very advanced, way more advanced than the Victorian people. During the Victorian era in England. The thing about this was the reason they ate these mummies and the reason that, I guess it still kind of state remains today, the reason that they eat these black people is because they want to embody that progression. They wanted to. To advance, progress their civilization. And during the Victorian era, they figured, what better way to progress than to eat the dead people who have been mummified in a progressive. I'm sorry, I'm trying to make sense of this, but that's literally their logic. Not to mention, it wasn't just, oh, they're going to eat them. They turned these mummies into medicine known as mummier. Now, the use of these mummified, this mummier began in the 12th century and ended in the 18th century. It's also believed that this is actually where England and like Europe inherited the. And I say inherited, loosely inherited the idea that there was an afterlife, because the afterlife was. Is very much real, Especially when it came to ancient Egypt. They honored their ancestors. They did veneration. People like the. The priestesses and things that walk this ground, they were like embodiments of what is beyond. Like beyond what we see. Right. And in the Victorian era, they kind of struggled with that. They didn't really know. So, long story short, they ate us because they wanted what we had.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, my friend, my friend, you. I think you forget how many people listen to the best podcasts in the universe. This woman clearly has figured out that the best way to get on our podcast is by spewing some utter nutso nonsense and. And making sure that you get it. So you can play these clips of her.

[Adam Curry]

You don't think she's right?

[John C. Dvorak]

All I know is if we crash in the Andes, I would eat you in a heartbeat. No, I do not think she's right.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, one more. I get one more clip there.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, you're Going to hurt me with another one.

[Adam Curry]

Well, now, this is a talk clip. This is talk says you're the one. And I have to now agree because the season of reveal.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wait a minute. Hold on. I have to say something. There were, I think, 12 submissions for the season of reveal. I mean, it was unbelievable how many people sent in jingles for the season of reveal. And I'll play two of them. And then I have the whole bunch. And I put it into a mix. Here's the first.

[Caller/Guest]

The season of reveal.

[John C. Dvorak]

And then Jeff Smith, who we haven't heard from in a while, he also came in and he gave it a little extra. A little Jeff Smith slant. Oh, ending in a minor chord. Very nice. Very nice.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, excellent.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is so good. People sent in some dynamite stuff. I really appreciate. Appreciate it. Okay, so this is. Shall I just go into the clip?

[Adam Curry]

And I think this is what the season of reveal is all about.

[Caller/Guest]

People are going to call me delusional. And I simply do not care if you think in the same America where the Eagles who have denounced maga, have a quarterback with an all women, predominantly black management team won the Super Bowl. Beyonce won album of the year in country. Black woman dominated the Grammys this year. You think Trump is president of the United States in 2025. You are the delusional one. And people want to say the people who say Kamala won are delusional. I denounce that madam VP is my president. And I am not saying this because I'm a strong democrat. I am an abolitionist through and through. But I do think she truthfully and honestly won the election. And in due time, that'll all be revealed. I have said that, and I stand by that. Go birds. Go black woman. Go black people. This has been a wondrous black history month thus far, minus the interpersonal conflict. Let me tell you, Pedro, much will be in revealed in due time.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, the season of reveal. It will be revealed out there that Kamala will win the election. Somehow. Somehow something's gonna change.

[Adam Curry]

It'll be revealed.

[John C. Dvorak]

It will be revealed. All will be revealed. Okay, thanks for that. Here is some big farman news. Joe brought this up to me yesterday. There it's. It appears that people who have been on Ozempic for a prolonged period of time are going blind. Yes, they're waking up and they got cloudy eyes and then they just go blind. And it doesn't seem to be reversible. Now, who knows? Who knows what's true or not? But I feel.

[Adam Curry]

I think there's seven or eight cases so far.

[John C. Dvorak]

And I think it's worth keeping our people up to speed on because this, you know, this is not good. It's not good. It just doesn't sound like a great product. CBS, you know, this is obviously is before RFK Jr. Was confirmed to the Health and Human Services. Still trying to get everyone to get some vaccines. And if not, well, you're in danger. Your kids may be in danger. It's not good.

[Caller/Guest]

Health officials in western Texas are trying to contain a measles outbreak among mostly school age children. Officials have confirmed at least 15 cases. It's the latest outbreak of a disease.

[John C. Dvorak]

Which had been virtually eliminated in the United States.

[Caller/Guest]

And it comes as vaccination rates are declining.

[Adam Curry]

CBS's Manny Bohurkas takes an in depth.

[Caller/Guest]

Look at the impact of the under vaccinated.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now, forgive me if I'm wrong, but 15 people, that's basically two Brady bunches and this is a news story.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it's not that many. No, we have a population of 330.

[John C. Dvorak]

Or so million, but oh, it's in Texas. And you know who's in Texas? Anti vaxxers.

[Caller/Guest]

Tampa area mom Tiffany.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, I'm sorry, we're in Tampa now.

[Adam Curry]

I thought it was Florida.

[John C. Dvorak]

Florida, same, same difference.

[Caller/Guest]

Tampa area mom Tiffany Vargas says her 8 year old daughter, who she asked not be identified, has not received childhood vaccines.

[Adam Curry]

So no measles, no chickenpox, no polio, nothing. And why is that?

[Caller/Guest]

Well, I started doing research and I saw that a lot of doctors were just having a really hard time answering the questions that I had.

[Adam Curry]

Her questions go beyond long established safety.

[Caller/Guest]

Studies to whether there's enough transparency from the medical community on possible side effects. Her research, she says, includes reading vaccine.

[Adam Curry]

Warning labels and looking into their ingredients.

[Caller/Guest]

We're not anti vaccines. We just want our questions answered. In Florida, parents like Vargas can opt.

[Adam Curry]

Out of vaccinating their children using a.

[Caller/Guest]

Religious exemption, which is one reason Vargas.

[Adam Curry]

Moved her family out of New York.

[Caller/Guest]

We were threatened to have CPS called on us. So I saw that this was going to be an issue that I wouldn't be able to exercise my right as a parent to choose what would be best for my child.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow. Calling CPS Child Protective Services. It's amazing. Well, there's more to this story.

[Caller/Guest]

The vaccination rate for Florida kindergarteners has.

[Adam Curry]

Fallen to 88.1%, the lowest in decades nationwide. At least 10 states have also seen.

[Caller/Guest]

Some vaccination rates fall.

[John C. Dvorak]

90% is not anywhere near good enough. That coverage will allow for the spread of vaccine preventable diseases.

[Adam Curry]

Dr. Jeffrey Goldhagen is a pediatrician and professor at the University of Florida.

[Caller/Guest]

What does it mean if these rates continue to go down?

[John C. Dvorak]

It means increased numbers of children infected. It means epidemics of measles. We are at great risk for the re emergence of polio in this country.

[Adam Curry]

Already some Florida schools have seen measles outbreaks, like at this elementary school in Broward county last year.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's exhaust last year related to vaccines. It's exhausting related to other issues that parents come into the office having read.

[Adam Curry]

The Internet and having formed their opinions.

[John C. Dvorak]

This story. There's one more short clip. It's just, it's. They're shameless. This is the measles.

[Adam Curry]

While the vast majority of medical organizations say childhood vaccines are safe and effective, it's not enough for parents like Tiffany Vargas.

[Caller/Guest]

So is it safe to say that.

[Adam Curry]

You'Re more concerned about possible side effects from a vaccine than you are her possibly getting measles or polio or something like that?

[Caller/Guest]

100%.

[Adam Curry]

She's as convinced in her approach as most doctors are about theirs.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, brother. Polio.

[Adam Curry]

Meanwhile, get vaccinated against measles. What? What's the. Okay, So I got 80% of the kids in my kindergarten class.

[John C. Dvorak]

88.

[Adam Curry]

88. Which is quite a few. And they all get vaccinated. And 12% don't get vaccinated. And my kids got vaccinated. So what am I worried about?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Curry]

If they're safe and effective.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's the big question. But meanwhile, people need some flu shots.

[Caller/Guest]

Is tracking a surge of flu cases. New data shows at least 24 million people have been sickened by the flu this year. 13,000 of those cases have turned deadly. The rate is the highest level in 15 years. Health experts say that the best line of defense is to get your flu vaccine. However, rates of vaccinations have been very low this season. And we still have several weeks to go before the peak of the flu season. Is over.

[John C. Dvorak]

13,000 dead. If you just said Covid instead of flu, you could have started another pandemic. Pandemic, 13,000. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

They blew it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. And actually flu deaths are outpacing COVID deaths. We're joined now by Dr. John LaPook.

[Caller/Guest]

Doctor, you are a practicing doctor. How much flu are you seeing day to day, John? I'm seeing a ton of it. And some of my patients are really, really sick.

[Adam Curry]

Two strains this time.

[Caller/Guest]

Yeah. And we know what they are. There's H3N2 and H1N1. The good news is those two strains are in fact covered in this year's vaccine. What we don't know is have they changed, have they mutated? Remember, during COVID you know, the variants, the mutations? Well, viruses, when they divide, they mutate. So how well matched is the current vaccine to what's actually out there right now? On top of that, this year, only about 40% of adults have taken the vaccine. That compares to about the same number as last year, but It's a full 10 percentage points less than the season before the pandemic.

[Adam Curry]

Is that why we're seeing so many flu cases?

[Caller/Guest]

Yeah, it could be. And, you know, this year, we're now seeing the first time since the pandemic. Deaths from flu are more than deaths from COVID And in about 22 states, that's the case. And in some states, like California, deaths from flu are about twice the death rate from COVID Is this just a reminder? Flu is always with us, and sometimes it can be quite bad. Yeah, it can be quite bad. And it goes up and down. In fact, the CDC said that every year, anywhere from 9 million to 40 million Americans get infected and 6,000 to 50,000 people die. That's a ton of variation. This year so far, 24 million infections, 13,000 deaths, and these are preliminary statistics.

[Adam Curry]

But you can still get the vaccination.

[Caller/Guest]

Still enough time. Flu season can go to May, as late as May, and it takes about two weeks for it to kick in.

[Adam Curry]

We're all gonna die.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yep, eventually. And then the final big pharma news is about Anthony Fauci. It seems like the pardon that Joe Biden gave him may not protect him.

[Caller/Guest]

The man once referred to as America's doctor, now a target of 17 state attorneys general, all Republicans. Using a GOP led congressional report released last year as the basis for an investigation into his response to the coronavirus pandemic. In a letter citing his attention, attempting to discredit the lab leak hypothesis and mismanagement or negligence while serving in leadership at the National Institutes of Health. They shut down schools, they shut down businesses.

[John C. Dvorak]

And there are concerns by many of.

[Adam Curry]

Us from Dr. Fauci's testimony in Congress that he said things that we know weren't true.

[Caller/Guest]

South Carolina Attorney General Alan Wilson is leading the effort, which he calls necessary as a result of President Joe Biden's preemptive pardon of Dr. Fauci.

[Adam Curry]

We're telling Congress, don't stop looking for.

[John C. Dvorak]

The truth, so we are not prohibited.

[Adam Curry]

From going forward with state actions.

[Caller/Guest]

Regardless of what Joe Biden did in.

[Adam Curry]

The final moments of his presidency.

[Caller/Guest]

Additionally, Elon Musk's Department of Government Efficiency posted as part of millions of dollars in canceled contracts through Health and human services, a $168,000 contract for an Anthony Fauci exhibit at the NIH Museum would also be cut.

[John C. Dvorak]

Do you think this hold holds water? They can really drag him in front of the States.

[Adam Curry]

I'm sure they can twist it around that maybe. It may be a waste of their time, but. Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Poor Tony.

[Adam Curry]

It may be that they. That. That whole. There's a lot of discussion going on in the courts now about these preemptive pardons you can't pardon. There may be. They may conclude. I think the Supreme Court might do this. Conclude that you can't be pardoned for something you didn't unless you was a crime you committed.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. And you have to accept it, too, don't you? I mean, you have to say, yes, I accept my pardon.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, That's. Yeah, I heard that, too. That's what Schiff is waffling about.

[John C. Dvorak]

That guy. Yeah. Waterboard him. That'll be fun.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I got another TikTok clip.

[John C. Dvorak]

Really?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

I mean, and this is the. More delusionals.

[John C. Dvorak]

You don't love your neighbors.

[Adam Curry]

This is delusional. Cage Prexy people are going to call me delusional? No, wait a minute.

[John C. Dvorak]

Stop it.

[Adam Curry]

Stop the clips. Stopped. A clip.

[John C. Dvorak]

You have something in your mouth. What's that in your mouth?

[Adam Curry]

Lozenge.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh. Huh.

[Adam Curry]

That's funny. You're like a nut.

[John C. Dvorak]

What?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. No, we can't play this clip.

[John C. Dvorak]

We can't play this clip.

[Adam Curry]

I believe it's the same as the other clip. It's the exact same time. It's just. I think I just redid it and named it different, so forget it. You got lucky.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow. Okay, then I'll play a clip just for you, because it's your boy Banion.

[Caller/Guest]

Got some breaking news right now. Steve Bannon has pleaded guilty to defrauding New Yorkers, but he will not be serving any prison time. We've learned that is part of a plea deal. Bannon said that he did defraud people who donated to We Build the Wall and online during President Trump's.

[Adam Curry]

This, by the way, this has been dragging on for years.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. So he finally pleaded guilty to it, or are they just twisting the story to make it sound like.

[Adam Curry]

No, I think maybe he did, because they probably said, hey, look, we got to get this out of the. Off the the books. We won't do anything to you. Just plead and we're out of here.

[Caller/Guest]

Started during President Trump's first term. We understand the fundraiser promised 100% of their donations would fund a wall along the southern border.

[Adam Curry]

You remember that campaign promise from President Trump's first term?

[Caller/Guest]

But Mr. Bannon directed it elsewhere.

[Adam Curry]

The funds.

[Caller/Guest]

This is Bannon's second criminal conviction after.

[Adam Curry]

He served prison time for contempt of Congress.

[John C. Dvorak]

Bannon is on the outs, man. He's really. He's not a part of any of the fun. I bet he wasn't at the inaugural parties. What did he do? What did he. And besides that, he said Elon would be gone by before the inauguration. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, well, I believe he combed his hair.

[John C. Dvorak]

And by the way, I hope the President does say something to Elon about the kid. I mean, that's just. It's like it was distracting. I think the kid mouthed something to the President. Doesn't like shut your effing mouth. It's not.

[Adam Curry]

I thought he told him to get out.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, whatever. It was like just control your kid, Elon, you know, or have a nanny there or something. Why is he doing that? Is that to prove that he's a good dad or what? He just. It's bothersome.

[Adam Curry]

Well, he's been dragging the same kid around all over the place.

[John C. Dvorak]

I know, but why? What is the point? It's kind of unbecoming.

[Adam Curry]

What's a good. I agree with you. This has to end.

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean, you know, if we're gonna complain about prop.

[Adam Curry]

He's making the kid a prop kid.

[John C. Dvorak]

He's a prop kid? Yeah. That's not cool. And whose kid is it? Who. Who did he have this kid with?

[Adam Curry]

Who knows? He can't keep track himself.

[John C. Dvorak]

Where's mom, everybody?

[Adam Curry]

There is no mom. All right, I got a super copy of the latest Big Balls. A big ball guy got picked by this. I guess we have a guy. By the way, one of our producers works with Big Balls. Oh, I guess on the neural link thing. Oh, oh, I didn't get note.

[John C. Dvorak]

I didn't get that note was.

[Adam Curry]

I have to go dig the note up. It was very interesting, but I guess he's also consulting for the State. This Big Balls kid must be really smart.

[Caller/Guest]

That's that 19 year old muscade who goes by the online nickname Big Balls now has a role inside the State Department. A senior advisor within the State Department at 19.

[Adam Curry]

We begin tonight with Musk and Big Balls.

[Caller/Guest]

A 19 year old with the online handle Big Balls. In one case of the Big Balls kid who has used the unfortunate nickname Big Balls online. Take a deep breath for just A moment and ponder Big Balls.

[John C. Dvorak]

We're not even that crass. I mean, we play.

[Adam Curry]

It's unbelievable, these people.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well, anyway, go Big Balls. Would I say I'm happy? I'm happy they're doing this or did it. I still think they did it. They've got it all. It's all done, it's all taken care of. It's a great time to be a podcaster.

[Adam Curry]

I should have tomorrow of JC over. I'm going to ask him about you thesis, which I still think is something we have to keep in the back of our minds. That they. That they're. That the Musk Group, the Doge people stole the entire database. Well, not treasury disbursements. And they're going over it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, they've had it at Mar a Lago in the basement next to the top secret files. Film at 11.

[Adam Curry]

I'm going to show my support by donating to no Agenda.

[Caller/Guest]

Imagine all the people could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab.

[John C. Dvorak]

A reminder, we do have some very cool end of show mixes coming up. Our end of show mixers have been working very, very, very hard, including a classic from UK PMX which we haven't played in a long time, and John's tip of the day. So don't you think about going anywhere as John thanks the rest of our supporters for 1738. $50 and above. And John muted himself. Hello. Hit the button. Hit the button.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah, there you go.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'll cut it out. No one will ever know what happened.

[Adam Curry]

No, the funny thing is, is that I didn't do anything. It's just that somehow when I. Oh, I know what I did.

[John C. Dvorak]

It was the lozenge.

[Adam Curry]

It was the lozenge, Sir DC of. I guess he's in Oregon. He's Sir DC of the high desert. No city, please. Oh, he took the city out. Or Jay did. Mike. He came in with 149.55. Michael Reed, $100. Dame Denise, Camden, Ohio. $100. Smoking hot husband birthday coming up on the 4th. JJ. 80 80. Which is a chip. Another chip donation. 80 80. That's the. That's the big boy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Kevin McLaughlin, the Archduke of Luna, lover of America and boobs. 8,008. Sebastian Bochenek Bochenik Bochenic in Lamont, Illinois. 8,008. Another boobs guy. Andrew Wolf in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. 75. Shout out to Billy and Spud. Paul Cassatt cassette or Cassell Cassell in Kenville, Texas.

[John C. Dvorak]

Kerrville.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah. These letters they run together on the spreadsheet. In Kerrville. Kerr.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's no Kurt D in Kurt. It's Kerrville Curville, 25 minutes from my house.

[Adam Curry]

Kerrville is it now?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

75 bucks from him. Truly the best podcast ever. Don Mills in Shasta lake. That's in California. 6969. 69. 69. Buy yourself some chocolates, people. That's what he says. Dame Rita. Dame Rita in Sparks, Nevada. There she is. 67. Benjamin Norman in Dayton, Ohio. 8325.

[John C. Dvorak]

6325. Shall I do them, John? You're having trouble reading? Reading today.

[Adam Curry]

I got floaters.

[John C. Dvorak]

You got a lozenge? I got floaters.

[Adam Curry]

Floaters.

[John C. Dvorak]

I shouldn't laugh, but yeah, you got floaters.

[Adam Curry]

All right. Danielle Pompeii Pompeu in Los Angeles, California. 60. Happy Valentine's. Christopher Dector. 5678. Cameron Ling Linger Ling in North Branch, Minnesota. 5678. These are $50 donors, I think, with some of the Jack the fees up on him.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sir. Patrick Coble right there.

[Adam Curry]

That's four more years. He writes Patrick Coble. He's back from Fairview, Tennessee. 5510. I'm back on the road for some speeches.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah, he's a dude named Ben Speecher. Oh, he's going to meetups, I guess. Yeah. February 23rd, 3rd Orlando.

[Adam Curry]

Eye on the troops.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. All right.

[Adam Curry]

James. I don't know. Fredericks.

[John C. Dvorak]

Fredericks.

[Adam Curry]

Friedrichs.

[John C. Dvorak]

Fredericks. Now there's a pronunciation guy.

[Adam Curry]

You think it's Fradrich?

[John C. Dvorak]

Fradrich says it right there.

[Adam Curry]

Or Fredericks. Fradrics.

[John C. Dvorak]

Fradrics. He says it right there. Fradrichs.

[Adam Curry]

Ah, Fredericks.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Let's say 5510. Scott Horton is our friend. Another Scott Horton donation.

[John C. Dvorak]

Love it. Scott Horton donation. We hit a jingle, people. Scott Horton donation.

[Adam Curry]

Kate Fisk in Upper Dicker. Wow. Upper Dicker.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

East Sussex, UK 5000, 272. I'm in the UK. Please send help. And then curiously, also, Russell Rose is also an Upper Dicker, and he says 5272.

[John C. Dvorak]

S o s u k. Wow, it's bad over there. Up.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Greg Marshall in Calgary, Alberta. 5272. Sir economic hitman in Tomball, Texas. 5001. Now we're already to the 50s. I'm going to go name and location. Starting with Stephen Schumach in Xenia, Ohio. Michelle Petty in Grand Forks, North Dakota. Tom Del Vecchio in Blandon, Pennsylvania. Andrew Grasso in Mineola, New York. Mike Moon in Athens, Georgia. Gary Mao in Woodland Hills, California. Jared Yaw in Nashville, Tennessee is the theme. Brandon Savoy in Port Orchard, Washington. Patricia, Dame Patricia, good old Dame Patricia Worthington in Miami, Florida, regular for you years. And Beth Bradshaw in Ladson, South Carolina. Last on the list, Baroness Knight in Edmonds, Washington. Those are all $50 donors. I want to thank them all and everybody else for helping us out on show 1738.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, thank you all very much. And again, thanks to our executive and associate executive producers for this episode. Those titles are yours to keep forever. And please think of [e-mail] if you want to set up a recurring donation. We appreciate those as well. Not as many Val Valentine's as we have received in the past, but we know that no agenda people just don't know.

[Adam Curry]

They don't love.

[John C. Dvorak]

They don't love that much. What?

[Adam Curry]

No. With not as many as we received in passive saying that we've always received. People do not like Valentine's Day that listen to this show.

[John C. Dvorak]

They have no love. They just got no love. I don't know what it is. No agenda. Donations.com. thank you all very much for supporting the show. Dame Denise wishes you smoking hot husband Fred happy birthday. He celebrated on the fourth. Dana Carroll turned 60 today. Happy birthday, Dana, sir. Anonymous Happy birthday to his human resource dude named Ken turns 25 today. Dick Ogburn. Happy birthday to his favorite human resource, Olivia. She's turning 10 today. And Luke Brown wishes his smoking hot wife Abby a happy birthday for tomorrow. She celebrates on Valentine's Day. And we say happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. So we have a layaway dame, which is what happens when you set up a recurring [e-mail] and she says she's respectfully requesting a seat at the Round table. This is Dana Carroll as my monthly donation. That's any amount, any frequency. So she does 7,227 nice palindrome monthly. It has brought her to damehood. She would like to be known as Dame Dame Dana. Is it Dina, I think Dina. Dame Dina of the Nevada Lowlands. Not only is it a gift to become a dame on this day, February 13th, but it's also my 60th birthday. Please have Texas sheet cake at the Round Table with a tall glass of raw milk. I wouldn't mind a biscuit for my birthday. I think we have biscuits here and it's not a Kamala biscuit, although it sounds like Kamala.

[Caller/Guest]

They always give me a biscuit on my birthday.

[John C. Dvorak]

Thank you for all you do. Especially for keeping my husband and I sane through all of the COVID BS itm Dana Carroll. And so let me just make sure you guys make sure it was raw milk. Yeah, has to be raw milk. Yes, yes, yes, yes. With bird flu, please. Need some bird flu in there. And then we also have a knight, Veseli Vesely, who we heard donate earlier. So if you could. Here's my sword. If you can bring out.

[Adam Curry]

Got it right here. This big boy.

[John C. Dvorak]

There it is. You got the big boy. All right. All right. Dana Carroll and Vesli Vestle, hop on up. Both of you are about to join the roundtable of the no agenda knights and dames. And I'm very proud to pronounce the KV as Dame Dana of the Nevada lowlands and Sir Vessel of the Cedar hills. For you. We've got hookers and blow rent boys and chardonnay, Texas sheet cake and a tall glass of raw milk. I checked it myself. Along with that beer and blunts, we got Ruben Esque, Women in geishas and sake, Vodka, Manila Barbara, hits of bourbon, sparkling cider, Nescort, ginger ale and gerbils. We have breast milk and pablum. It's also raw milk. And then ultimately, what everybody loves here at the round table is the mutton and the mead. Both of you head over to noagenderrings.com check out that handsome signet ring which is yours. Now, of course, all you have to do is send us a ring size which you can use the handy ring size guide on the website noagenderrings.com and an address and that comes with a certificate of authenticity. And because it is signet ring, you also get some wax. It's included to seal your important correspondence. And thank you both for your enduring support and for joining the roundtable of the no Agenda knights and dames. Ah, they're always like a party, those meetups. This is what you need. They are your first responders in any. In any crisis. The people who you meet at the meetups you need to get connected for to be protected. And Colorado Springs is our only meetup report for today. They had a meetup recently. Colorado Springs meet up report. Cousin Vito. Hey, this is Clayton. No mutton this time, Just me.

[Caller/Guest]

Night stalkers don't quit coming in from the Antelope Ridge meadery. We are not going to the American Gaza anytime soon. Maybe no mutton, but maybe some people. Pot pie, Rocky Mountain milk, made here again. This is Greg. I drank all the mead. Sorry about that.

[Adam Curry]

This is M. Andrew Jones.

[John C. Dvorak]

And we got four more years of winter. Yes, the mutton and me, the meetup. And we have a couple hanging out today actually, although it's well underway, if not over at the Munich Insecurity Conference Meetup. Oh no, I see. It is in Munich, Germany. Sir Tyler Velasquez posted that late at Kennedy's Bar and Restaurants. I hope someone showed up and we'd love to get a report from Minchin. You could also go to the Outer Swamp Meetup if you're in New York at 6:00 at Java Nation. That's oh New York time. I'm sorry, it's in Rockville, Maryland. Spooksville. There you go, the Outer Swamp Meetup. Also today, the shrunken Amygdala support group kicks off at 7:00 in Cincinnati, Ohio at March 1st brewing on Saturday, the no agenda Dallas Fort Worth Mid Cities meetup. Now that starts at 11:30 in the morning, but you can get some bourbon at the Bourbon Street Bar and Grill in Bedford, Texas or Nerdworks will be hosting that for you. Also on Saturday, The Michigan Local 1 meetups are for lovers. 2:00 at Sherwood Brewing Company in Shelby Township, Michigan. And on our next show day on Sunday, that's the 16th, Too Many Eggs Keene, New Hampshire. This is their 10th meetup in a row. Margaritas Keene in Keene, New Hampshire. Make sure you go check that one out. And of course we have many more on our brand new, very cool looking noagendameetups.com website. Thank you very much, Sir Daniel, for continuing to improve that make it easier. We started this, this because meetups.com sucked. And I think, you know, you have a product here, by the way. I'm just saying, you know, that's there something. He could productize that, couldn't he, John?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I think so.

[John C. Dvorak]

You should consider that it was like Sir Deanonymous. He productized beingit IO. I'm just saying we sprout businesses everywhere these days. No agendameetups.com if you can't find one near you, start one yourself.

[Caller/Guest]

Sometimes you want to go hang out.

[John C. Dvorak]

With all the nights and days.

[Caller/Guest]

You want to be where you won't be triggered on hell, you want to.

[Adam Curry]

Be where everybody feels the same. It's like a party. Yeah. He could sell, he could sell it as a standalone product and he could also sell a service agreement.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yep.

[Adam Curry]

For continued income if he want. If they wanted to keep him employed as the not.

[John C. Dvorak]

So they get updates and upgrades.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, upgrades and updates. Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Any. Any you know, it's a. I think the money maker, Scott Horton could use that. He could set up his.

[Adam Curry]

Scott Horton could use it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, I have. I actually have five ISOs today, so I'll start.

[Caller/Guest]

All hell is going to break out.

[John C. Dvorak]

Nah, it's no good. It's not good. That's horrible. Miking of the President, by the way.

[Caller/Guest]

What could possibly go wrong?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no. And we have this one.

[Caller/Guest]

Who's a good dog against Doge?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, it's Rachel. I don't like her. How about. Yeah, okay. Yeah, that one. And then my final candidate. Oh my God, there's so much there.

[Adam Curry]

That one. That's a good one.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's not bad, right?

[Adam Curry]

I only have one because I thought this was such a winner that it would just. This either gonna win or not.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, here we go.

[Caller/Guest]

The best show ever. Ever.

[John C. Dvorak]

How can I compete against these? This is because you're. You're taking them from audiobooks.

[Caller/Guest]

Oh my God, there's so much there.

[John C. Dvorak]

You're taking them from audiobooks.

[Caller/Guest]

The best show ever, ever, ever.

[John C. Dvorak]

What audiobook is that from?

[Adam Curry]

That's not an audiobook. That's an old one that I submitted.

[John C. Dvorak]

Some time back and it came back and it won.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow. Unbelievable. Also unbelievable. It is time for John's tip of the day. Everybody loves it. Go to tipoftheday.net why am I yelling?

[Adam Curry]

And sometimes created by Dave Brunetti.

[John C. Dvorak]

Why am I yelling at everybody? I don't understand.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, so this is a tip that. This has been mentioned on the show before. But I'm going to make it an official tip because it's so much fun to play with. It's particularly fun with some of the terms and things that come around, especially use the gender ideology. Gender studies, you the words like that. This is the Google book books. End gram viewer.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think you've. Haven't you done this one before?

[Adam Curry]

No, not as a tip. Oh, it's just something I think 10 years ago I mentioned on the show and I do use it a lot to see what the hell's going on. Like when did this, when did this come about? And you do the N gram viewer. It's N gram, the letter N gram.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

And you can look it up as Google ngram viewer.

[John C. Dvorak]

And why would I do this?

[Adam Curry]

Sorry?

[John C. Dvorak]

Why would I do this? Engram viewer. Why would I. What, what does this do for me?

[Adam Curry]

It shows you when a popular term came into being and actually showed up in books and started being used. So if you look into things like gender studies, for example, use that as a, as the words you want to check out, you'll see that this phrase never existed until about 1980.

[John C. Dvorak]

Huh. Hold on a second.

[Adam Curry]

Or you can look up something, say like there's some term going around. You keep hearing it like RSV for example. Or any of these things that I'm always bitching and moaning about the fact that, oh, this is the. I never. When I never heard that when I was a kid, that sort of thing. You can check and you find out that you never heard about it when you were a kid because it didn't exist. So I find this to be a very useful tool tool for analysis. But it's also fun like if you look at the word like gay, you know, see how it used over time. I mean it's just, it's a fascinating tool that people should can play with.

[John C. Dvorak]

Which only go to 2022 or. Oh no, I, yeah, but it's just.

[Adam Curry]

That'S to look for origins, not end points really.

[John C. Dvorak]

Ah, yeah, but I, I want to do 22.

[Adam Curry]

Don't start complaining about the tips.

[John C. Dvorak]

I will not complain about the tip of the day. It's a great tip of the day. The engram, it's at books google.com John C. Dvorak Tip of the Day. Go to noagendafund.com or tipoftheday.net so harsh.

[Adam Curry]

And sometimes started trend.

[John C. Dvorak]

Stop complaining about the tip of the day. I'm sorry, man. I'm sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. It is time to bid you all adieu. Adieu, everybody. Thank you for listening. We have Professor J. Jones coming up. Also multiple artists. Multiple, multiple artists. Thank you all for sending me your season of reveal jingles. They will all be mixed together. I did that expert. I'm an end of show mixer today. And a UK PMX was a classic, classic, classic, classic. A derisive mix about the president. That's how it rolls. You can just recycle them, no problem. If you're listening now, stay tuned if you're listening live. Up next, we have random thoughts on your no agenda Stream@trollroomio or in your modern podcast app. And of course I want to remind you that I am coming to you from the heart of the Texas hill country. It's Fredericksburg, Texas, and I say in the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry and.

[Adam Curry]

From northern Silicon Valley, where it's raining, I'm Genesee Dvorak.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, there's still no go bag. That's what you wanted to say.

[Adam Curry]

There's no go bag.

[John C. Dvorak]

Remember [e-mail] until Sunday. Adios, mofos. A hooey, hooey and such.

[Adam Curry]

Racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, islamophobic.

[Caller/Guest]

You name it, you name it. Racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, racist, sexist, homophobic.

[Adam Curry]

Xenophobic, racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, xenophobic, xenophobic, xenophobic, xenophobic.

[Caller/Guest]

You name it, you name it, you name it, you name it. Racist, racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, racist, sexist.

[Adam Curry]

Homophobic, xenophobic, racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic.

[Caller/Guest]

As one phobic. As one phobic. As 1.

[Adam Curry]

You name it, you name it, you name it, you name it.

[Caller/Guest]

Racist.

[John C. Dvorak]

The season of reveal. The season of reveal. No, it's not the great awakening. It's season of reveal.

[Adam Curry]

The season of reveal.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's the season of reveal.

[Caller/Guest]

Yeah, yeah. Conspiracy's real.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's the season of reveal. Season of reveal.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, brother.

[Caller/Guest]

Welcome to the season of reveal.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, no, nothing.

[Caller/Guest]

Season of replace the time of the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Season of the reveal.

[Caller/Guest]

The season is the season is the season of reveal.

[Adam Curry]

It's the time for the season of reveal. Artificial intelligence in paint removal tools.

[Caller/Guest]

And her head is gone.

[Adam Curry]

Your ex boyfriend, your ex girlfriend in the photo, you click on her and.

[John C. Dvorak]

Her head is gone.

[Adam Curry]

Boom, she's gone.

[Caller/Guest]

Shoots it and her head is gone.

[John C. Dvorak]

And boom goes the dynamite. No, how does it go with the ex girlfriend?

[Caller/Guest]

Shoots it.

[Adam Curry]

Boom, she's gone.

[Caller/Guest]

And her head is gone.

[Adam Curry]

In paint, disappears.

[John C. Dvorak]

How does that go again?

[Adam Curry]

You tap on the person and her head is gone. So you have a photo and you got yes. And expect it to disappear.

[John C. Dvorak]

And boom goes the dynamite. It's all free.

[Adam Curry]

Boom, she's gone.

[Caller/Guest]

Yeah, and her head is gone.

[John C. Dvorak]

Adios, mofo. Dvorak.org na the best show ever.

[Caller/Guest]

Ever.