1739 - "Hypophora"

Summary

Podcast Summary: No Agenda Episode 1739 - "Hypophora"

Release Date: February 16, 2025

Hosts: Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak

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1. Introduction: San Francisco Sinking Claims [00:00 – 02:34]

The episode kicks off with a light-hearted debate between John C. Dvorak and Adam Curry about recent claims that San Francisco, along with parts of Los Angeles, is sinking. Dvorak references a study led by NASA and NOAA highlighting land subsidence in California, questioning the media's portrayal and urging listeners to critically assess such reports.

Notable Quote:

• John C. Dvorak [00:56]: "Whoa. Holy moly. Look at that thing sink. It was not like a sh. 0.4 inches a year."

2. Media Portrayal of a Constitutional Crisis [03:02 – 05:19]

The hosts delve into the mainstream media's incessant reporting on a potential constitutional crisis in the U.S. They critique the media for repetitively labeling political tensions as crises without substantial analysis, suggesting that this narrative is designed to manipulate public perception.

Notable Quote:

• Adam Curry [03:21]: "I am unapologetic in suggesting we are in a constitutional crisis right now."

3. Vice President Vance's Munich Speech and NATO Critique [08:30 – 19:53]

A significant portion of the episode discusses Vice President J.D. Vance's speech at the Munich Security Conference. Dvorak and Curry criticize Vance's implicit support for Germany's far-right AfD party and his stance on NATO, arguing that these positions exacerbate tensions with Russia and undermine European defense initiatives.

Notable Quotes:

• John C. Dvorak [09:43]: "That latter meeting came after Vance spoke at the Munich Security Conference."
• Adam Curry [15:07]: "The whole problem is the NATO."

4. DOJ Resignations and Mayor Eric Adams Corruption Case [77:08 – 89:35]

The hosts examine recent upheavals within the Department of Justice, focusing on the case against New York City Mayor Eric Adams. They argue that the mass resignation of DOJ officials, including acting U.S. Attorney Danielle Sassoon, indicates a politicized and corrupt Justice Department. Curry and Dvorak contend that Sassoon's accusations of quid pro quo deals between Adams and DOJ officials are unfounded and orchestrated by conservative factions within the Federalist Society.

Notable Quotes:

• News Anchor [78:19]: "They're calling this a 'Thursday Afternoon massacre.'"
• John C. Dvorak [78:26]: "This is a pack of lies."

5. Communication Failures in Military Aviation [165:11 – 184:57]

A technical discussion arises about the communication systems between military helicopters and civilian aircraft. The hosts critique the reliance on half-duplex communication systems, arguing that modern technology should allow for full-duplex exchanges to prevent misunderstandings and potential accidents.

Notable Quotes:

• John C. Dvorak [165:35]: "There's no reason in the world you can't have full duplex communication in this day and age."
• Adam Curry [166:45]: "Legacy is not an excuse for this kind of technology."

6. Transgender Rights Protests and Gender Identity Issues [191:50 – 209:38]

The episode touches on recent protests against transgender rights, specifically opposing federal policies restricting gender-affirming care for minors. Curry and Dvorak mock the protests, labeling them as exaggerated fears rather than legitimate concerns, and criticize the media's portrayal of transgender issues.

Notable Quotes:

• News Anchor [199:48]: "Many trans youth who can't get access to health care commit suicide. Unfortunately."
• Adam Curry [203:37]: "If you wear one of those red hats, I might be confronting you."

7. Tip of the Day: Glassware Essentials [197:43 – 199:59]

John C. Dvorak shares a segment on the importance of proper glassware for serving alcoholic beverages, highlighting the Glencairn Scotch whiskey glass as a superior choice for enhancing the drinking experience. He advises listeners to invest in quality glasses to reflect sophistication and proper etiquette.

Notable Quote:

• John C. Dvorak [198:01]: "The Glencairn Scotch whiskey glass is the glass everyone should have."

8. Listener Donations and Credits [02:00 – 07:00]

Throughout the episode, Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak acknowledge and thank their listeners for donations. They offer executive and associate executive producer credits to donors who contributed $200 and above, fostering a value-for-value support model.

Notable Interaction:

• Adam Curry [130:38]: "Yeah, well, that was two. This is two."

9. Closing Remarks and Final Thoughts [208:00 – End]

The hosts conclude the episode by reiterating the importance of listener support and promoting upcoming segments. They maintain their critical stance on mainstream media, government policies, and societal issues, encouraging listeners to remain informed and skeptical of prevailing narratives.

Notable Quote:

• Adam Curry [207:55]: "We are the best podcast in the universe, because we don't have video."

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Conclusion:

In Episode 1739, "Hypophora," Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak tackle a range of topics from media criticism, political corruption, defense policies, to social issues surrounding transgender rights. Their consistent skepticism of mainstream narratives and emphasis on independent analysis aim to provide listeners with alternative perspectives on current events. The episode also underscores the show's value-for-value model, fostering a community-driven support system.

Transcript

[John C. Dvorak]

I bet you that camel milk yogurt is good.

[Adam Curry]

Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak, it's Sunday, February 16, 2025. This is your award winning Gibbonation Media Assassination Episode 1739. This is no Agenda under the golden dome. And broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill country here in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry.

[John C. Dvorak]

And from northern Silicon Valley, where it turns out San Francisco is sinking, I'm John C. Dvorak, crackpot and buzz kill.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, really now? Oh, really? You're telling me the mud flats are.

[John C. Dvorak]

The whole city's going down.

[Adam Curry]

Where did this come to light?

[John C. Dvorak]

It's all over the news. Look up. Just go Google San Francisco is sinking. And you'll find all these stories all of a sudden.

[Adam Curry]

Well, now if you look out the window, do you see any evidence of this?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Whoa. Holy moly. Look at that thing sink. It was not like a sh. 0.4 inches a year.

[Adam Curry]

Parts of San Francisco, oh, not just San Francisco and Los Angeles, are sinking into the sea.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah. Oh, that's what people have been wanting for.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, here it is. Okay, so. Meaning there's a second part to the story, meaning sea level rise will be even worse.

[John C. Dvorak]

By the way. This story is. This is the way this story's been going. If something's sinking, it doesn't mean something else is going up. All the stories say, in fact, this was even in epoch times. San Francisco is sinking, so the sea level is going to rise somehow due to climate change. There you go.

[Adam Curry]

A study led by NASA and NOAA has found that California is sinking in some areas. Certainly some areas.

[John C. Dvorak]

San Francisco's one of them.

[Adam Curry]

I love to have the AI generated art, you know, with the Golden Gate Bridge slowly sink. But I mean, seriously, what is it? Oh, it's 0.4 inches per year in sinking. Are you in a sinking hot spot?

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm on a. On a solid rock on the East Bay. It's not even close to sinking.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, well, I mean, that's why I.

[John C. Dvorak]

Can look and see the mud flats. They haven't changed either.

[Adam Curry]

I'm just, I'm gonna. I've stopped saying you should leave.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, you're gonna be solid zone here.

[Adam Curry]

You're gonna be.

[John C. Dvorak]

If I lived in Massachusetts, I'd leave.

[Adam Curry]

You'll be doing the snorkel if you lived in Massachusetts. I've been to Massachusetts. You don't want to live there.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's what I said.

[Adam Curry]

And no offense, but dude, a lot of rainbow flags in Massachusetts.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's out of control.

[Adam Curry]

It is a bit out control. Yeah. So I just wanted to give everybody a little overview of the mainstream media from the past week. It's 30 seconds.

[News Anchor]

New warnings of a constitutional crisis. Just weeks into Trump's second term, and the stage is set for a constitutional crisis. Could this signal the start of a constitutional crisis? Legal experts say our country could be headed toward a constitutional crisis.

[John C. Dvorak]

They're calling this a constitutional crisis.

[News Anchor]

This is a constitutional crisis.

[Adam Curry]

I am unapologetic in suggesting we are in a constitutional crisis right now.

[News Anchor]

Are we already in a constitutional crisis?

[John C. Dvorak]

Mm.

[News Anchor]

Those two words, right? Constitutional crisis.

[Adam Curry]

So when people. When people hear us say about four more years, and we just say we're basically in our final four years, I want you to understand this is the reason. This was today. 2025. This is 2020.

[News Anchor]

Warnings of an impending constitutional crisis ripped through the nation's capital. There are experts who are saying this is a constitutional crisis.

[Reporter]

We are at a dangerous time in our history. A constitutional crisis. That probably moment since the Civil war.

[Adam Curry]

This is 2019. We're now like one subway stop from a real constitutional crisis.

[Reporter]

We are in, in effect, a constitutional crisis.

[News Anchor]

Constitutional crisis. We're hearing it over and over again.

[Adam Curry]

Nancy Pelosi has already said that Donald Trump is unfit for office. She said that he belongs in prison. She says that he. We're in a constitutional crisis. If that's not enough to begin an impeachment inquiry, then what on Earth is? Here's 2018.

[News Anchor]

A constitutional crisis.

[Adam Curry]

Possibly the constitutional crisis. Alarm bells are ringing.

[News Anchor]

But is.

[Adam Curry]

And 2017 might be on the path.

[News Anchor]

To a constitutional crisis. We will ask two experts about whether or not this is a constitutional crisis.

[Adam Curry]

We've never faced quite the constitutional crisis that we do right now. They are fomenting a constitutional crisis. Are we staring down the barrel of a constitutional crisis? This is an existential constitutional crisis. People get a new script. We're bored already.

[John C. Dvorak]

These people.

[Adam Curry]

This is it. It's like, oh, okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

They can't seem to come up with any new. I mean, if they would just get. Do a real job instead of just coming up with this. And this is the whole mainstream media. The whole thing is corrupted.

[Adam Curry]

Well, not just.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's hopeless.

[Adam Curry]

Not just mainstream media, but it's leaking through to podcasts.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, it does. Well, everything. Yes. Because some podcasts are nothing more than a wannabe extension of the mainstream media.

[Adam Curry]

I present you Jon Stewart in conversation with Jen Psaki. But the overwhelming majority has been. We are sleepwalking into a constitutional crisis again. Taking the bait. By the way, I realize why Jon Stewart's podcast sucks so bad, and this is actually a funny bit without him actually knowing it. Jon Stewart is great at delivering scripted lines. I mean, he does them so smooth. He's just perfect at it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, he's a pro.

[Adam Curry]

He's an incredible pro. But when he just has to ad lib, he can't do it. He doesn't, it, it doesn't come out right. It's all wrong. And listen to this. The larger thing and not defending the efficiency or value of the programs, I.

[News Anchor]

Would take it just one step farther. Is. And I, I worked at State Department. I think USAID is a tremendous institution. I don't think it should be a front and center top messaging argument. It' in Congress defend and use every lever of their power to prevent the Trump administration from gutting it. Yes, because they play a pivotal role around the world. Cracking down on corruption, defending a free press, a million things. But I guess when it comes to how the Democrats are communicating with the public, the things that the Trump administration are doing that they should be talking about more, in my view, are getting access to people's personnel information, their Social Security data, anybody who's applied for a government job. That's millions of people. Halting programs which a judge this week said they haven't actually put back in place. All of the funding halts. Halting of the funding that they said they had. You know, government's not popular, as you all know. Congress is not popular.

[Adam Curry]

Why would, why would that be right?

[News Anchor]

I don't know. Institutions, not popular.

[Adam Curry]

True.

[News Anchor]

So if you're trying to reach people who are like government, Washington, then talk about how this program that's being cut off is helping your kids have early childhood education. It's helping you get Medicaid access. It's helping you farmers have subsidies.

[Adam Curry]

Wait for it.

[Expert]

Seems obvious, Jen.

[News Anchor]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

Why are they not doing it?

[News Anchor]

I. I wish I knew the answer to that question.

[Adam Curry]

That is the most painful sigh I have ever heard. Yeah. Self realization all of a sudden. Because it's no good. Why can't they. Why is it so hard for them to just say, yeah, it's probably not no good.

[John C. Dvorak]

They can't.

[Adam Curry]

They can't. I know.

[John C. Dvorak]

And by the way, I wanted just not to change the subject, but my clean tech, a clean tech, clean feed. You're right. The fonts have all changed now. I got last on the list.

[Adam Curry]

I guess it's kind of an odd font. It's a little more. A little more bold.

[John C. Dvorak]

Don't you know, it's a Helvetica style font. It's a European sty.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, they're from the uk. So yeah, I'd say the big news, the big news, the big, big, big, big, big, big news is everything's happening in, in Munich. It's all in Munich.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh yes, I have a whole series of Munich clips.

[Adam Curry]

Are they from ntd?

[John C. Dvorak]

I think they're. No, they're from pbs.

[Adam Curry]

Oh well good because the NTD stuff is just, it's a little harsh sometimes.

[John C. Dvorak]

But yeah, I got the four clips and then some anal clips.

[Adam Curry]

Everyone has to understand that John titles his clips and he puts in their Munich overview and then overview anal, which I think stands for analysis.

[John C. Dvorak]

Analysis.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

What else would it mean?

[Adam Curry]

Well, you can just put in analysis. It's kind of jarring.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm always long. I gotta keep it, you know, because I've got the way that when I print it out, I have the time over one side.

[Adam Curry]

This is the way your mind works. Everyone, everyone knows, everyone agrees. It's okay. I'd like an overview because there's so much going on. What is happening? Are we going to war? Is NATO involved? I mean, what's happening?

[John C. Dvorak]

I think this is a pretty good overview.

[News Anchor]

Today in munich, Vice President J.D. vance met with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and with German political leaders, including the the far right AfD party.

[Adam Curry]

How far? They forgot to say extreme right. Oh boy.

[News Anchor]

That latter meeting came after Vance spoke at the Munich Security Conference. It's usually focused on Western adversaries. Vance instead critiqued America's European allies. Nick Shifrin is in Munich again for.

[Reporter]

Us tonight in front of a mostly European audience anxious for reassurance. Today, Vice President Vance delivered a scolding.

[News Anchor]

What I worry about is the threat.

[John C. Dvorak]

From within the retreat of Europe from.

[News Anchor]

Some of its most fundamental values.

[Reporter]

World leaders were hoping for clarity on the administration's plans for Ukraine. Instead, Vance expressed implicit support for right wing parties, including Germany's AfD, whose leader he met this afternoon and who's been endorsed by Elon Musk.

[Adam Curry]

That's kind of disingenuous. What he really said was people don't like your immigration. It wasn't just sitting there endorsing.

[John C. Dvorak]

He also complain about free speech?

[Adam Curry]

Yes, but, but here the, the BBS is saying he endorsed far right parties if America.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I'm just saying that. Yeah, this is, no, this, this is slanted. Of course, it's slanted.

[Adam Curry]

Of course.

[John C. Dvorak]

Pbs, of course.

[Reporter]

Including Germany's.

[Adam Curry]

Let's go back Here.

[Reporter]

Instead, Vance expressed implicit support for right wing parties, including Germany's AfD implicit leader he met this afternoon and who's been endorsed by Elon Musk.

[News Anchor]

If American Democracy can survive 10 years.

[John C. Dvorak]

Of Greta Thunberg, you guys can survive.

[News Anchor]

A few months of Elon Musk.

[Adam Curry]

It's too bad he flubbed that line because it was a good one.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, he knew it was good. This happens. It happens to me. Happens to you?

[Adam Curry]

Yes. Oh, all the time.

[John C. Dvorak]

You have a, you know, it's a good line. You know, if you deliver it properly, you're going to get. It's going to come home and then you blow it and this happen. I've seen that. You see this all the time. So he. He knew it was a good line. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And it fell so flat because.

[John C. Dvorak]

Choked Greta.

[News Anchor]

Gr.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, no.

[News Anchor]

If American democracy can survive 10 years.

[John C. Dvorak]

Of Greta Thunberg, you guys can survive a few months of Elon Musk.

[Adam Curry]

By the way, just on Greta Thunberg. It's interesting how everyone's complaining about the teenage Doge team, but yet hundreds of billions of climate change dollars were all based on the 15 year old Greta Thunberry.

[John C. Dvorak]

Right. Who uneducated, who didn't even go to school because she was protein, protein all the time.

[News Anchor]

Just what no democracy, American, German or.

[John C. Dvorak]

European will survive is telling millions of.

[News Anchor]

Voters that their thoughts and concerns, their aspirations, their pleas for relief are invalid or unworthy of even being considered.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, no, that's right. That is. That is a very implicit endorsement of the far right. They're missing it because Europe is now saying extreme right. They've changed that narrative. Extreme.

[John C. Dvorak]

They're freaked.

[Adam Curry]

Of course they're freaked. Rightly so.

[John C. Dvorak]

Onward. Next.

[Reporter]

Vance portrayed Europe as silencing critical and conservative voices, including by recently throwing out Romanian elections over Russian misinformation.

[News Anchor]

If you're running in fear of your.

[John C. Dvorak]

Own voters, there is nothing America can do for you.

[Reporter]

But in a new Wall Street Journal interview, Vance embraced Europe's position on Ukraine. That the west could increase sanctions on Moscow and even dep US Troops inside Ukraine to reach peace.

[John C. Dvorak]

Good afternoon, everybody.

[Reporter]

And hours later, Vance met with Ukraine's delegation in a meeting that a senior Ukrainian official described to PBS NewsHour as, quote, very good.

[John C. Dvorak]

We want to.

[Adam Curry]

Very good.

[News Anchor]

Achieve a durable, lasting peace, not the kind of peace that's going to have.

[John C. Dvorak]

Eastern Europe in conflict just a couple of years down the road.

[Reporter]

European leaders tell PBS NewsHour they're confused by what they consider mixed US messages on Ukraine, including those repeated today by Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth during a visit to Poland.

[John C. Dvorak]

The reality that returning to 2014 as.

[News Anchor]

Borders as part of a negotiated settlement is unlikely.

[John C. Dvorak]

The reality of US Troops in Ukraine is unlikely. The reality of Ukraine membership in NATO as a part of a negotiated settlement, unlikely.

[Reporter]

German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius I think.

[Adam Curry]

This was careless and I think it was a mistake.

[John C. Dvorak]

In my view, it would have been.

[Adam Curry]

Much better to talk about Ukraine's possible NATO membership and possible territorial changes at.

[John C. Dvorak]

The negotiating really first and then with Ukraine present and not with them already.

[Adam Curry]

Having Putin's price hanging over them.

[Reporter]

And European leaders continue to doubt that peace with Putin is possible.

[News Anchor]

President Putin says he's willing to meet, but on what terms? I had good conversation with President Trump.

[John C. Dvorak]

We had some phone calls and he.

[News Anchor]

Had phone call with Putin and he said to me, I think that he wants to solve the war. I said to him that he's a liar.

[Adam Curry]

It's amazing. First of all, this Zelensky man, it's like he's got a different story every 10 minutes. And when did this NATO membership come back? Everyone knows that's a non starter.

[John C. Dvorak]

I have no idea why they keep pushing it.

[Adam Curry]

The whole problem.

[John C. Dvorak]

It is the problem.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. And Vance was very clear. I mean, I'm sure you have the clip.

[John C. Dvorak]

Vance said it was more clear.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, like, no, the solution does not lie with Ukraine having NATO membership. That's it. And that was the problem since 2014. The whole thing started with the expansion of NATO. That's it. And they're just, do they, do you think that they're sniffing their own farts? They really believe that this is possible?

[John C. Dvorak]

I have no idea what they're thinking because they're not going to get, you know, unless they kick the United States out of NATO. We can just veto it. You know the thing about NATO, you can't get in unless everybody says yes.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, right, Right.

[John C. Dvorak]

So you can say whatever you want.

[Adam Curry]

We're the boss of them.

[John C. Dvorak]

There was an alternative that just to get off this track for just one second. There was an alternative. Clip of Zelensky this is the talk. ZELENSKY clip oh, yes, good.

[News Anchor]

I asked President Trump, Mr. President, why did you talk to Russian President Vladimir Putin before talking to me?

[Adam Curry]

It doesn't sound like AI at all. I'm so convinced.

[News Anchor]

Talking to me. And President Trump said he wanted to talk to the tallest one first and then the shortest. I was not happy about this. Then I told him that I want to create a European army. And then he asked me if it was an army of short Little midgets like me. And I did not like that either.

[Adam Curry]

All right, since you went down that track, I have to play a couple clips before we get back to the overview because this is, I think what it's really all about. And we should probably look at your anal clips based upon this. This is the real zelensky or this 10 minute Zelenskyy about the European army.

[News Anchor]

The Ukrainian President.

[John C. Dvorak]

Though characteristically blunt, decades of the old.

[News Anchor]

Relationship between Europe and America are ending. From now on things will be different.

[John C. Dvorak]

And Europe needs to adjust to that.

[News Anchor]

I really believe that time has come. The armed forces of Europe must be created.

[Adam Curry]

The armed forces of Europe must be created. Now we have talked about this since the beginning of the show. I was in, in Europe and then later in the UK when the Lisbon Treaty was signed. We all remember how that went. Ireland, you, Ireland, you voted wrong do over vote again. And in the.

[John C. Dvorak]

And so I think Holland did the same thing. If I'm not mistaken, they voted wrong way first.

[Adam Curry]

Wasn't it Holland or France?

[John C. Dvorak]

I think it was one of the two.

[Adam Curry]

It was mainly Ireland.

[John C. Dvorak]

The point is that these countries, if they didn't vote right.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Then they revoted.

[John C. Dvorak]

They kept making them do it over and over until they finally came.

[Adam Curry]

This is how democracy works. Do you not understand democracy? And there were three main promises for this Lisbon Treaty which was the so called constitution of the European Union. One was no more power. Passports. It's great. Everybody can walk to the borders. You don't need to show your papers anymore. And if someone you know comes in illegally from another country, they can walk into your country too. It's great. That second part, they didn't actually promise, but it was implied. The second promise, you'll all have the same money. It's fantastic. No more gilder, no more Deutsche mark, no more franks. No, you'll have the euro. It's great. Overnight, 100% inflation. Coffee went from 2 guilders to, you know, to 4 guilders in euros. And the third was we'll never.

[John C. Dvorak]

That was a good bit, by the way.

[Adam Curry]

But it's true.

[John C. Dvorak]

I know. And Italy really hit. It got hit.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, they got really bad. People couldn't afford their, their espresso in the morning. And the third promise was we'll never have a European army. No, no, no. Well, there's actually there was another one which was we'll never have European central Finance. No, we'll never do that. That's encroaching very quickly. And basically the European Central bank already makes it a fact. But we'll never have a European army. And I think that what is happening now. And I have a redux clip from 2015, so that's 10 years ago. And we've been following this and there are a couple other clips, but this is the best one. I think what is happening now is the military industrial complex, that's American weapons manufacturers in general. Germany has a little bit. Sweden makes some planes. Not unimportant, but really if you want things that go boom and that comes from us. So the NATO.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow. Sound effects on the show.

[Adam Curry]

Thank you. The NATO thing is kind of a non starter because it's like these guys, they don't want to pay. We've got our guy, definitely our guy, Mark Ruther over there saying, Luke, you must have. Otherwise if you do a European army, it will be eight or possibly 10 or more percents. When they heard that, which is I think the total setup, they're like, yeah, yeah, let's go those guys into it. And this has been on deck with people who have been paid off by big military contractors for over a decade. This is Nigel Farage when he was still a member of European Parliament. And this is right after the 2014 coup that Victoria Nuland, John Brennan, Lindse Graham, John McCain, all these suckers, they all orchestrated this. And there was a big setup to ultimately either result in more money being spent by the EU into NATO armaments or just get them to start their own army. That's fine with us too, as long as we get more money. I've been wondering why David Cameron's been slashing our armed forces. Won't commit to 2%, is happy for us not to be able to defend our islands. I think Mr. Juncker has given us the answer. We're going to do it at an EU level. We're going to have a European army. Now, when I raised this last year with the Deputy prime minister, Liberal Democrat Nick Clegg, he said it was a dangerous fantasy to even talk about an EU army. I hope every Liberal Democrat voter has heard Mr. Verhofstadt today, the leader of the European Liberals, crying out for militarization at an EU level. Of course, the truth is, it's already happening. We already have a European Defence Agency. We already have EU battlegroups on active service all over the world. We already have an EU navy active against the Somali pirates. And who can forget Eurocorp here in Strasbourg last year, virtually goose stepping that ghastly flag around the courtyard outside. And of course, the lisbon Treaty, Article 28 provides for all of this Tony Blair was right. He said the European Union is not a project about peace, it's a project about power. And I think Mr. Juncker is trying to seize on an opportunity. We ourselves in the European Union provoked the conflict through our territorial expansionism in the Ukraine. We poked the Russian bear with a stick and unsurprisingly, Putin reacted. But this now is to be used as an opportunity to build a European army. And when then they get into a big fight for Hofstadt's interrupts. But Nigel Farage saw it. This is 10 years ago. This was the whole point. This was the whole setup. And then you had poor Marc Ruza. Now I understand why they chose him. He was set up to fail. This guy, this wishy washy former prime minister, never married, unclear about any relationships. Used to be in Unilever's human resource department with the other ladies. You know, he's just a wishy washy smooshy guy with a funny accent I like to mimic. His whole job was to fail at getting them to pour more money into NATO. And now all he sees is people are complaining. Now, what is this now?

[John C. Dvorak]

And here's what NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte had to say at the conference on Saturday about Europe's task.

[Adam Curry]

Now, to my European friends, I would say get into the debate not by complaining that you might yes or not be at the table, but by coming up with concrete proposals, ideas ramp up the spending, make sure that the training and the weapons supplies also come up with concrete ideas. What, for example, security guarantees could look like and what Europe. And I must say, since one day of complaining, what I'm now be seeing on the European side of NATO is indeed that people are now getting into the concrete planning phase of what could that be? Stop complaining. You're all complaining. Why are you complaining all the time? They're going to go for it. They are going to go for it. This guy was set up to fail. You know, hey, Mark, go ahead, boy. Why don't you go try to get up it from 2% to 5%? Good luck. They already knew it. This was the whole plan. And now Trump is like, yeah, this is great. You know what? Screw you guys. Why don't you go do something yourself? Take care of it. We're going to. NATO is done. I think. I think it's over. Because it makes no sense to have a European EU army and NATO. It's what we call duplication of efforts.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Redundancy.

[Adam Curry]

Redundancy, yes. So let them come up with, you know, 3, 4, 500 billion euros a year. Hello, Europe. It's going to be fun. I wish I could get my daughter out. She won't.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, the, it's, this is Europe. The fact that we've had this era of peace for 70 years or more, it's a fluke.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

If you know world history, it's a total fluke. There were things like the Hundred Years.

[Adam Curry]

Wars, good times, I remember.

[John C. Dvorak]

And they're constantly attacking Russia because of, you know, for one reason or another. And Russia knows this and they're freaked out about. That's why they're so adamant. Yeah, they're not idiots. I mean, we're very, you know, cloistered in the United States when it comes to world history. So we think everything is the way it is today, is the way it always was. That's bull crap.

[Adam Curry]

To be fair. After World War II, which the Russ.

[John C. Dvorak]

Really, they really did won the war.

[Adam Curry]

But, you know, as usual, we came in, we stormed the beach, I mean, it's not to be discounted. But then we flew.

[John C. Dvorak]

Not the Normandy thing. Eisenhower was a good guy.

[Adam Curry]

That was the real deal. We flew the flag and we liberated. We did liberate. You know, we're like, hey, you're free. Not downplaying that at all. But the Russians, they, you know, they lost millions of people just because they're, they're a military society. This is what they do. And then we had the whole Bretton woods thing and who jumped out? The Russians. They went, nah, nah, we're not going to be, we're not going to be your little son over here. We want to control Europe. And that is true. They have definitely wanted to control Europe. I think that dream may be gone by now and they just want to be a part of the system. But, you know, when the eu, the EU really drove this decision to kick Russia off of Swift. Yeah, that's, that's an act of war.

[John C. Dvorak]

He also got kicked out of the G8.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, that was a good one. That was probably like. I hated those meetings anyway. Who cares about that? I don't want to go there, but optic wise, it was not, it was not a. It was not nice. Who's the aggressor? Who's the aggressor? And then the whole march to the end of boxes. Well, no, the overview. You want overview three or overview?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, we're on three, I believe.

[Adam Curry]

All right.

[Reporter]

Zelensky added today that Ukraine would need real security guarantees in order to make any cease fire durable. He said that the US needed to be part of those security guarantees. But Amna, today a State Department spokesman said, quote, we expect European partners to take the lead in establishing a durable security framework and look forward to their proposals.

[News Anchor]

So, Nick, tell us about the mood in the room during Vice President Vance's speech and also what you're hearing was joined seas tonight.

[Reporter]

Well, President Trump this afternoon called Vance's speech, quote, brilliant. But the speech landed like a lead balloon in the room because again, Europeans have been dealing with mixed messages on Ukraine all week from the Trump administration. And they're hoping that the Trump administration treats them treats Ukraine as partners in trying to pursue peace rather than going above Europe and Ukraine's head and speaking speaking directly to Moscow. That said, though I'm not two senior European officials told me tonight that actually the speech was better than it could have been, that they preferred a scolding over a negative speech about Ukraine or even a speech in which the US Was announcing some kind of troop withdrawal from Europe. But it's not just Europeans who are worried about Ukraine's policy. Apparently today the Senate Armed Services Committee chairman Roger Wicker, who's here today, called Hegseth speech in Brussels a quote, rookie mistake, the kind of thing Tucker Carlson could have written. And Carlson is a, quote, fool. That's what Wicker said.

[Adam Curry]

Wow. These reports bring in Elon Musk, Tucker Carlson. Who's next? Candace Owens. Are they going to talk about her on pbs?

[John C. Dvorak]

Now that you mentioned, I'm sure that I was in the edit room. Right. Oh, we left her out. Damn it. And easy target.

[Adam Curry]

Megan. Megan Keller. Megan. And Bongino. Code Bongino. Throw it in there. That's what a misser people. You know, it wouldn't surprise me if we start to hear some talk of, well, you know, maybe we should just close some of those bases in Germany.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, you know, Trump talked about that in his first term.

[Adam Curry]

He did? Yeah. Come on.

[John C. Dvorak]

He went on about what are we doing with all these bases all over the place. It's costing us money.

[Adam Curry]

Yep.

[John C. Dvorak]

What's it doing? You know, some ill will is being derived from it.

[Adam Curry]

Well, this is an interesting way to. So we have a $200 billion trade deficit with the which interestingly, I heard the numbers, the way it works with the EU, they have a 200 billion surplus from China, I mean, deficit with China, a 200 billion surplus with the U.S. so they kind of stay the same. Whereas the U.S. has a 300 billion deficit with China. So we have a 500 billion, at least 500 billion deficit between the EU and China. So we could change that by. All right, you know, good. Buy. Buy the stuff from us, then set up your own army. That would be at least 200 billion, maybe more. Just looking at.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, when they set up their own army, they're going to buy our product for a while.

[Adam Curry]

They have to. I mean, everything's standardized on our stuff. Yeah, for a while. Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, for a while. And then you can, you know, do what you have to do to get back to a, you know, a normal economy. It's not just built on militarism.

[Adam Curry]

What's a European gun? What's a brand name of European gun? Ruger. No, Ruger for sure. Czechoslovakian. Yeah, there's probably a few.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let's go to clip four.

[Adam Curry]

Glock. Oh, Glock. That's a good point. Yeah, Glock.

[Reporter]

Ukraine's defenders continue to say Russia is not serious about peace. And they have a case in point today that a Russian drone hit a radiation shield that protects the Chernobyl nuclear power power plant. Now, earlier today, I talked about all of this, Ukraine, as well as Vance's speech with Europe's top diplomat. Kayakovs.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, that doesn't sound fishy at all.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I'm sure it was a. There's a bogus.

[Adam Curry]

Well, the radiation shield is literally the dome they put over.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. This drone falls, which.

[Adam Curry]

And that thing is pretty, pretty. It's built to last. The whole point of it was like, lock it down, close it up, up. So a drone drops into it. Okay, radiation shield. All right. Sounds very scary. Radiation shield.

[John C. Dvorak]

So we move to the. We move to the analysis.

[Adam Curry]

Okay.

[Reporter]

Kai calls. Thanks very much. Welcome Back to the NewsHour.

[Analyst]

I appreciate it.

[Reporter]

Last week, European officials came to Washington and were reassured, I'm told, by senior Trump administration officials about Ukraine. Earlier this week, you. You and other senior European officials met with Vice President Vance in Paris and I'm told were reassured about the administration's focus on Ukraine. But this week, we also heard from the Defense secretary, Pete Hegseth, questioning whether Ukraine could ever get back occupied territory and essentially taking Naito off the table. What's the impact of the mixed messages for the United States?

[Adam Curry]

No more parties.

[Analyst]

The new administration is starting. And of course, we are building up our relationship with the new administration as well. I mean, I've had good calls, good call with Marco Rubio as well, who was also very on Ukraine. So, of course, we have to figure out the messages, what is, what is right. But this conference is a good place. We have a lot of meetings with representatives to understand what are the ideas really, of the United States regarding Ukraine.

[Reporter]

But can Europe actually make plans for Ukraine? Can you and the United States work on a strategy. Strategy for Ukraine when you're getting these mixed messages?

[Analyst]

Well, we have the strategy in place. I mean, for us, it's very clear. It is to put the pressure on Russia to really stop this war. When President Trump says that I just want the killing to stop, it's easy. If Putin would stop, you know, bombing Ukraine this night, we heard that they were bombing the nuclear station. So clearly Putin doesn't want peace. So the.

[Adam Curry]

I like how Chernobyl has become the nuclear station. Isn't that thing completely defunct and down and shut? Yeah, yeah, it's the nuclear station.

[John C. Dvorak]

This woman is the second to Ursula. She's the Foreign Secretary of the EU and she's. Oh, yeah, she's just another blow hard unelected DEI hire, unelected spokes hole.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[Analyst]

Says that I just want the killing to stop. It's easy. If Putin would stop, you know, bombing Ukraine this night, we heard that they were bombing the nuclear station. So clearly Putin doesn't want peace. So. So the pressure, the political, economical pressure should be on him so that, you know, he realizes that, you know, he can't win and. And, you know, realizes it's a mistake to be there.

[Reporter]

But President Trump also said this yesterday in the Oval Office, quote, yes, I do believe Putin wants peace and, quote, I trust him on this subject.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, no.

[Reporter]

What's your response to his saying, well.

[Analyst]

Maybe he doesn't know Putin as well as we do. So. Well, Putin is not really keeping his promises. If you think about. We have had such quick fixes deals like Minsk 1, Minsk 2.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, what, Putin broke Minsk 1 and 2? Is that what she's claiming?

[John C. Dvorak]

That's what she's claiming.

[Adam Curry]

Wow.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let's forget the Boris Johnson episode and the fact that this was. The war would have been over if these, these agreements were put into play, and they weren't. Putin, thanks to Putin, Zelensky, largely Putin.

[Adam Curry]

Has specifically said, why don't we just hold to the Minsk accord? And who is this lady? Is. Where she from? She from Germany.

[John C. Dvorak]

Where her. She's from originally. I'd have to look it up.

[Adam Curry]

No, that's okay. It's not that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Probably. Well, maybe I don't. She's one of those.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, one of those. One of those places.

[John C. Dvorak]

One of those. You could be anywhere. Yeah, but she's just typical EU spokesperson or representative or phony you know, unelected official. Yeah, that runs the thing. Yeah, she's The EU is just a mess. It's ridiculous.

[Adam Curry]

Technocrat.

[John C. Dvorak]

She's. That's right. That's the word. She's a technocrat. Here we go. 6.

[Reporter]

And the previous diplomacy between Russia and the Ukraine.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Analyst]

Previous ceasefire, cease fire agreements that were only, you know, necessary for Putin and Russia to get their act together more and attack in a bigger scale. So I think, you know, the history proves that, and that's why they only understand the language of strength. And we have to be really strong and firm that you can't win here. Because if United States is worried about China, if we can't get Russia right, we can't get China right either, because they are carefully watching how this goes.

[Reporter]

One of the possibilities when it comes to a possible cease fire in Ukraine, if we were to get to that would be for European troops to deploy inside Ukraine. In your conversations with European leaders, are they willing to consider that even if, as Hexa said this week, that the United States wouldn't protect them under article.

[Adam Curry]

This? They're always like, this is a constant theme. Well, if you give in to Putin, everyone else is watching and, oh, now, oh, they're weak now we'll come and grab something.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's a domino theory. Modern version.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, yes, exactly.

[John C. Dvorak]

Which is the very lived through the domino theory in the 60s and 70s. And that was bull crap.

[Adam Curry]

Very reason why no one else wanted to go in the armed forces because they all figured out we were fighting stupid wars in Vietnam and Korea, and then no one wanted to be a part of it until, oh, the 9, 11s. Get the towel heads, everybody. Because that was real. Yeah, well, that was the spirit. You know, it's like, hey, the towel heads did this. Turns out, maybe not. Let's go into Iraq anyway. Who cares? Let's go in there.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right, I think we're on seven.

[Adam Curry]

Yep.

[Analyst]

We have to understand that there's no peace. In order to have peacekeeping troops, you need to have peace. But again, Putin doesn't want peace, and that is a big problem that we need to address right now. And of course, course, if there is a peace, then we need to discuss what are the security guarantees. Yesterday we heard the Defense secretary of Ukraine saying that, you know, US gave us promises in the Budapest memorandum, give up your nuclear weapons and we will defend you when Russia attacks and where are you now? So he was really very vocal in saying that, you know, you have not kept the promises, you have gave. Gave us. So, so, so, so, so, so right now, if we talk about security guarantees, then they really need to be Credible. What are these security guarantees that would really deter Russia from attacking again?

[Adam Curry]

She. She's the Secretary of the Interior. What is her title again?

[John C. Dvorak]

I think she's the Foreign minister.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, foreign Minister.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think the foreign minister back.

[Adam Curry]

She's the. The henchwoman of the Queen. Queen Ursula.

[John C. Dvorak]

You. And the joke in that, by the way, in that little commentary was the promise is not kept.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

We always have to remember that was James Baker.

[Adam Curry]

That's the real promise. Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

And the promises that were made when the Soviet Union collapsed and it became Russia, and the other countries all got independence, became independent, including Ukraine, from Russia. And then we promised that we're not going to move NATO one inch eastward. And ever since then, that's all we did. And that was a promise that Putin called us out on and didn't do anything about for a long time until this latest thing with the Ukraine. And that was the end. That was the last. The straw that broke the camel's back, and it's his fault. Okay.

[Reporter]

You and von der Leyen, the president of the European Commission, have both said publicly in the last couple days. Days, that any kind of tariffs would essentially create conflict between the United States and Europe. That is unnecessary. Do you think the United States imposing tariffs on Europe would prevent Europe from working with the United States on Ukraine?

[News Anchor]

No.

[Analyst]

We have different cooperation points. So it's clear that, you know, there are no winners in trade wars. The consumers are biggest losers.

[Adam Curry]

No.

[Analyst]

Because the prices rise due to this. So I hope that these things are settled between the United States and Europe. Okay. If there is trading balance, then, of course, we can see what we can do about this. But starting a trade war, I don't think it's a. It's a good thing, because who is laughing on the side is. Is China.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, this is not a. The tariffs are not a trade war.

[Adam Curry]

No, no, it's not.

[John C. Dvorak]

Trade war is a little more extreme than a couple of tariffs on some goods and services.

[Adam Curry]

It's a balance of payments. It's an equalization of trade, seems to me. But okay, yeah, yeah, let's call it. Everything has to be a war, by the way. Everything's got to be a war.

[John C. Dvorak]

So what do the Europeans think?

[Adam Curry]

Is that. Clip 8.

[John C. Dvorak]

We always have to remember that World War I was. And it starts with the. This is why the Ukraine thing's so dangerous. Because. Because World War I started with a lunatic assassinating the Archduke Ferdinand. It was some maniac. It had nothing to do with anything. And it just escalated. It escalated to a Full blown world war. And it was being fought all over in literally all over the world. South America and Middle East. Every place got involved, including us.

[Adam Curry]

I mean, they can learn from us. When we're angry at our neighbors, we just fight it out on the ice. We just do a hockey game. We beat each other up. And like, yeah, we beat you anyway, three to one. You can't even skate. That's how you do it. You don't go into. Into the trenches and kill a million. Of course, no, I saw clips, believe me. I did not see a hockey game.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hockey's great.

[Adam Curry]

I went to one hockey game in my life when I was in school in West Virginia. Edie, her name was Edie. Edie took Mudman and me to Pennsylvania. Drove like six hours to go to a Flyers game. And I'm at the game, I'm like, I don't even see the puck. I have no idea what I'm looking at. No, it was not for me, but not for me.

[John C. Dvorak]

I guess not.

[News Anchor]

No.

[Adam Curry]

But, you know, but there was no fighting. I mean, I like the fighting and the gloves are off. That's the best.

[John C. Dvorak]

I went to a hockey game and there was no. Back in the day and there was no fighting.

[Adam Curry]

And it might have even been against New Jersey, which you'd expect. I don't recall any fighting. No, I've been. They're like, eh.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, you'd remember it if you saw it.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, no, there was no. There was no fighting.

[John C. Dvorak]

These guys. These guys. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

But that ultimately is how you get some aggression out. You know, just go beat each other on the yard.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's what soccer's supposed to do.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. It's not. There's no.

[John C. Dvorak]

They don't have fighting in soccer. That's the problem.

[Adam Curry]

You know what? This is a good point. Soccer would score big in America, even with limited commercials, if there was fighting.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think you might be onto something we need. I don't like soccer. I think it's boring. But I would maybe watch it if I'm fighting. But these guys are kind of wimpy. These. These guys, they're all with their feet, you know, and they're prancing around. More head kicks.

[Adam Curry]

More head kicks. I'm sorry I kicked you in the head. Oh, what can I say?

[John C. Dvorak]

So where are we on these?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, your bonus anal.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, here we go.

[Reporter]

And finally, we've been talking about this. Most of the security conference is focused on this, but the vice president, J.D. vance, gave a speech today in which he said that the greatest threat that faces that Europe faces is from within. And he said, quote, there is no security if you're afraid of the voices, the opinions and the conscience that guide your own people. If you're running in fear from your own voters, there's nothing America can do for you. Is Europe afraid of the voices, opinions and conscience of its own people?

[Analyst]

Well, freedom of opinion, freedom of press is one of the fundamental, fundamental values that the European Union stands for. And as you see, we have a lot of.

[Adam Curry]

I love. You don't have freedom of speech. You have freedom of opinion. You can have an opinion as long as you keep it to yourself and don't post about it.

[Analyst]

Freedom of opinion, freedom of press is one of the fundamental.

[Adam Curry]

You see that? Freedom of opinion. This is the problem right here. Europe. Yes, you have freedom of opinion. That right is secured for you. You can have your opinion, shut up about it.

[Analyst]

Yes, freedom of opin opinion, freedom of press is one of the fundamental values that the European Union stands for. And as you see, we have a lot of elections going on all the time. A lot of very different groups do over very vocal. And I don't agree with that criticism. And I think, you know, of course we deal with our domestic problems on our own, but we need to cooperate on the big international worries that we have. And, and this is, for example, the war in Ukraine.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, man. Well, you know what? This whole, this whole thing escalated and Vance got a new speech when Zelensky did this.

[John C. Dvorak]

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky says he's directed his ministers not to sign off on a proposed agreement to give the United States access to Ukraine's rare earth minerals. He said the document was too focused on US Interest and didn't include security guarantees for Ukraine that would deter future Russian aggression.

[News Anchor]

Well, there are not very contrasting things about security guarantees in this document. That for me is very important. The connection between some kind of security.

[John C. Dvorak]

Guarantees and some kind of investment. Ukraine has vast reserves of critical minerals that are used in aerospace, defense and nuclear industries. The Trump administration has indicated that is interested in accessing them to reduce dependence on China.

[Adam Curry]

I don't know why Euro news is up talking all of a sudden. China defense.

[John C. Dvorak]

And by the way, the ludicrous logic here is that we get the minerals and we would have to provide security because we want to protect the minerals.

[Adam Curry]

Minerals, of course, someone.

[John C. Dvorak]

But no, no, they don't want to give us that. They don't want to know. Ukraine is a corrupt operation. It always has been.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

And nothing's changed. All it's changed is there's a bunch of money. And the idea behind the minerals was to pay us back for all the freebies they got and distribute it around the world for all we know. This is ridiculous.

[Adam Curry]

And for all the decades I grew up and lived in Europe, we loved Ukraine. That's where you could do nasty. You want some crazy drugs? Ukraine. You want the Ukraine, girls? Ukraine. You want hitman? Ukraine. You want to go party crazy Ukraine. Everyone loved Ukraine. It was all good. There's no reason for this, and I'm being a little flippant, but it fit in well.

[John C. Dvorak]

You're not being that flippant.

[Adam Curry]

It's the truth. It's the truth, everyone.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. The unspoken part of it is exactly.

[Adam Curry]

What you said, by the way. Just going back to soccer for a moment. Moment. Here's your problem. When someone's hurt on the field, it's always fake. Oh, my knee.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, that's. There's a lot of flopping. It's called.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, flopping. Like, oh, I'm so hurt. If someone was really hurt, you know, the knee, the leg is, like, bent.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, you see that bone sticking out in real sports.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah. We're just trying to Americanize football to make it successful. I'd like to go to MSNBC to get some fantastic analysis from our mainstream here in the United States.

[John C. Dvorak]

Fundamentally, the goal is, as President Trump outlined it, we want the war to.

[News Anchor]

Come to a close.

[John C. Dvorak]

We want the killing to stop, but we want to achieve a durable, lasting peace.

[News Anchor]

Not the kind of peace that's going.

[John C. Dvorak]

To have Eastern Europe in conflict just.

[News Anchor]

A couple years down the road at this table.

[Adam Curry]

We want the American people to understand when what's being said and what it really means for them. So when they hear the vice President speak this way, and there's another sound that we can use, too, that sort of crystallizes that moment. What should people understand it means for them potentially down the road?

[News Anchor]

Not only is it isolation, but it's going to actually hurt you in your pocketbook at home when it comes to the United States now looking like it only cares about itself, which, you know, listen, I get it. Feeling that we're overextended. I remember when I was growing up, this idea of we should not be the policemen of the world. I get that part. But working alongside people, helping people with common values helps American values continue. So what we're really seeing is an entire reframing by JD Vance and Trump of what America actually stands for.

[Adam Curry]

Right.

[News Anchor]

This idea that an American America that stands up for democratic values, an America that stands up for pluralism, and it's now turning to an America that stands up for colonialism. Right? Land grabs, real estate deals. None of that benefits sitting at home right now. That only benefits the people who are making the real estate deals.

[Adam Curry]

Lady, we just bought a plot of land for you in the Donbass. Congratulations. Now, this is the best part.

[John C. Dvorak]

By the way, that guy that was there is Michael Steele.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Former Republican.

[John C. Dvorak]

That guy's former head of the rnc. Jerk.

[Adam Curry]

Wow. All right, this continues and gets better.

[News Anchor]

I want to take a listen to the other sound we have of JD Vance talking about the threat from within, and then we'll talk about on the other side.

[Adam Curry]

The threat from within, like immigration.

[News Anchor]

The threat that I worry the most about vis a vis Europe is not Russia, it's not China, it's not any other external actor.

[John C. Dvorak]

And what I worry about is the threat from within, the retreat of Europe.

[News Anchor]

From some of its most fundamental values.

[John C. Dvorak]

Values shared with the United States of America.

[News Anchor]

One of the things that strikes me about the first piece of sound we played and then that piece of sound is that it sounds innocuous enough.

[Adam Curry]

Now we know what the values are, right? We know what they are. They cut it off. But now. So this is a very. This is psychological operation on their viewing audience, all 15,000 of of them. It's like, oh, well, it's our values, our shared values. And now they're going to tell you what those values are.

[News Anchor]

One of the things that strikes me.

[John C. Dvorak]

Why don't they let Vance tell you? Because he does.

[Adam Curry]

Because it's psychological warfare. It's. It's propaganda.

[News Anchor]

One of the things that strikes me about the first piece of sound we played and then that piece of sound is that it sounds.

[Adam Curry]

It's a piece of sound. What was that? It was a piece of sound pos.

[News Anchor]

Innocuous enough if you do not dig into the details and if you're not looking at it. Which values are which? Shared values. Values are we talking about? So let me pull up this from the Washington Post, which was that Vance met with the leader of a far right German party.

[Adam Curry]

So not what he said. Not what he said. No, no.

[News Anchor]

Something the Washington Post wrote exported the MAGA message. When they say shared values. Which values? Pray tell. I wish I was exaggerating when I say Nazi values.

[Adam Curry]

Nazi values. That's it. That's what Van shares.

[John C. Dvorak]

What?

[Adam Curry]

Nazi values. Yes, of course. Thank you, msnbc.

[News Anchor]

I wish I was exaggerating when I. Nazi values. Right. I mean, this is the far, Far right party. In Germany, which understands what this kind of extreme far, far right now. And for J.D. vance to say the will of the people, apparently the will of the people is great when Trump wins in the United States. But he refused to meet with the elected leader of Germany, the German chancellor, and instead goes and meets with this far right extremist party out of power, saying they're the will of the people. So what he's really presenting for the United States internally and overseas is that the will of the people is white, Christian, male and willing to fight for that identity.

[Adam Curry]

Let's just take a quick break. Let's take a quick break and listen to Boots on the Ground. Frank from Germany. Frank. And he sent us a note and said, Adam, John, if you ever need any information from Germany, I'm here for, for you. For instance, Alice Vedel, she is the leader of the far far right, also known as extreme right Nazi Values AfD party. She is not only a lesbian, but she's married to a brown girl or refugee.

[John C. Dvorak]

I didn't know that.

[Adam Curry]

Cherry on top. No. Anyway, the whole point is that this bullcrap doesn't make.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's logical.

[Adam Curry]

It's bullcrap. And they are, they are headed. AFD is headed. Strongest result ever in, in the elections because the, the Germans. I feel bad for him. You know, you got to get some pirate radio going or something. Do some podcasts. Where are the German podcasts? I'm sure they're around, but.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well, you have your, you have your contact right there. Ask him.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, but I wonder if they're allowed.

[John C. Dvorak]

To even listen to us.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, good point. I wonder if they even allow to express their opinion. Only allowed to have it. I do have three relatively short BBC clips about the Munich conference. You want to hear those?

[John C. Dvorak]

Sure.

[Adam Curry]

The future of Ukraine took center stage at the International Security Conference in the German city of Munich on Friday. It came after several days of speculation about how President Trump's telephone conversation with Vladimir Putin on Wednesday might be the start of a process that will end the conflict. On the sidelines of the conference, the US Vice President, J.D. vance told reporters that Washington could impose economic sanctions on Russia if it refuses to agree what he called a good peace deal that guarantees Kyiv's long term independence. There are economic tools of leverage, he said. And there are, of course, also military tools of leverage the US could use. Later, he addressed the delegates at the the meeting.

[News Anchor]

This is a security conference and I'm sure you all came here prepared to.

[John C. Dvorak]

Talk about how exactly you intend to increase defense spending over the Next few.

[News Anchor]

Years in line with some new target.

[John C. Dvorak]

And that's great because as President Trump.

[News Anchor]

Has made abundantly clear, he believes that our European friends must play a bigger.

[John C. Dvorak]

Role in the future of this continent. We don't think you hear this term.

[News Anchor]

Burden sharing, but we think it's an important part of being in a shared alliance together that the Europeans step up.

[John C. Dvorak]

While America focuses on areas of the world that are in great danger.

[Adam Curry]

Uh huh. Shared burden. They want no part of that.

[Expert]

Well, later in the day, the Ukrainian.

[Adam Curry]

President, Volodymyr zelensky, met the US vice president at the Munich conference. Mr. Zelensky said they'd had a good conversation and that it would not be their last. He said they needed to prepare a plan on how to stop President Putin. Putin and finished the war with Russia. And that President Trump was key to making that happen.

[John C. Dvorak]

I hope and we count that really President Trump will help us.

[News Anchor]

And I really count on him.

[John C. Dvorak]

He is the president and the United.

[News Anchor]

States is the biggest donator during the war. I mean, comparable with other countries.

[John C. Dvorak]

As I said, Europe also. But it's Europe totally continent.

[News Anchor]

Yes. United States gave a lot. That's why I count on him. People voted and we really think.

[John C. Dvorak]

I see, yes. That he's strong man. And if he will choose our side.

[News Anchor]

And if he will not be in.

[John C. Dvorak]

The middle, I think he will pressure.

[News Anchor]

And he will push Putin to stop the war.

[John C. Dvorak]

He can do it.

[Adam Curry]

This is. He's backtracking on everything that's been discussed. It is baffling. The head of the European Commission is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Ursula von der Leyen.

[Adam Curry]

This is my favorite. Here's Queen Ursula.

[News Anchor]

President Putin says he's willing to meet, but on what terms? It is up to him to demonstrate that his interest is not to prolong this war. It is up to him to show that he has given up his ambition to destroy Ukraine. And let me be very clear.

[John C. Dvorak]

What.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I know she's 4 foot 9 and acting like she's a giant. She's got nothing but. But throws this stuff out there. It's baffling.

[News Anchor]

His ambition to destroy Ukraine. And let me be very clear, a Ukraine would weaken Europe, but it would also weaken the United States. Because what we have seen is the authoritarians of this world are carefully watching.

[Analyst]

Whether there's any impunity.

[John C. Dvorak]

What is their latest pitch? The other woman had it too, which is. Oh, they're watching. The Chinese in particular. They're watching to see if we blow it.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, exactly. If we blow it with this deal, then China's going to take over the world.

[News Anchor]

The authoritarians of this world are carefully watching whether there's any impunity if you invade your neighbor and violate international borders, or whether there are real deterrence.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, they're going to go for their own army. They're crazy. Macron is having a big meeting tomorrow. Emergency meeting, everybody. Pierre's ready for your hair. Come on to Paris, everybody. We've got to have an emergency meeting. Ms. Trump is not going to help us. All we wanted was simple. Give us some rare earth minerals, send some money our way. It was easy. Now, someone, Someone got in the middle, and I think it's the military industrial complex. They've wanted this all, all along. They knew NATO was not working, they needed a new weapon way. And I think President Trump is keen to that. Like, okay, fine, we don't even need tariffs. Just buy $200 billion a year worth of our stuff. I think it's obvious.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, this is not so far. This is not going well for that war. And then we didn't even bring up the Middle East. And, I mean, Trump made a big fuss about High Noon yesterday.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

And he says, what I don't want to see is these three people released and two people released. By the way, I've been doing a ratio thing with the number of people that they released and the number of.

[Adam Curry]

People Israelis released, one to 100.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think it started at one to 50.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, there was 50.

[John C. Dvorak]

Palestinians are worth one Jewish hostage. Then it went one to 60. Now, now it's one to about 110. One hundred and ten people per released hostage. That's ridiculous.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. High Noon came and went and now President Trump is at.

[John C. Dvorak]

Don't talk about it.

[Adam Curry]

He's at Daytona 500.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, that's better.

[Adam Curry]

He's got the Beast on the.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, get some. Cheers.

[Adam Curry]

Did you see it? He was on the track and then he's. He's talking on the radio from the. From the Beast as he's going on.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, no, I did not notice this.

[Adam Curry]

The pace car. It was great. Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

So the Beast was the pace car?

[Adam Curry]

Yes, yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it was fantastic.

[John C. Dvorak]

Give it a good workout.

[Adam Curry]

Well, while we're on that topic, President Trump keeps talking about his plan. We're going to own Magaza and all this stuff. And it was pointed out to me that this plan has been around probably since 2019. The plan is written up, it's published, it's well known. And of course, it's Bibi Netanyahu's godson. You know, remember Jared Kushner? Had to sleep on the couch. Google it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yep, yep, Google it. The spy for Israel.

[Adam Curry]

The spy for Israel. He went on Lex Friedman, Friedman show a year ago, after October 7, and he explained the plan and the reason for the plan.

[Expert]

This was something I took on. I was working on the political framework between the Israelis and the Palestinians and trying to understand what were the issues. And the issues were not very many. It basically was, you had a land dispute, so you had to figure out, where do you put borders? Ultimately, you had a security paradigm, which I was much more favorable to Israel's perspective on. And obviously the events of the past 48 hours have fully justified that bias. And then in addition to that, you had to deal with the religious sites. But I felt operationally that wasn't actually as complicated as people made it because you wanted to just leave it open for everybody. Then I went through and I felt that the Palestinian leadership was fairly disincentivized to make a deal because there was just this paradigm where they had billions of dollars coming in from the international community. And I think that they feared that if they made a deal, they would lose their relevancy internationally and the money would stop flowing into the country. So what I tried to do is to say my approach when I would get into a hard problem, say, how do I understand all the different escape paths matches? How do I try to eliminate them and then build a golden bridge that becomes the only, but also the most desirable pathway for the decision makers to walk through.

[Adam Curry]

So that makes sense. Hamas didn't want to give up millions of dollars in payments that came in. They would lose their relevancy. It's probably a fair assessment then. I don't know about the escape hatches, but okay, here's the business plan and the players in the plan.

[Expert]

So we developed a business plan for Gaza, the West Bank. We threw in some improvements for Jordan and Egypt as well. I based it off of the Vision 2030 that they did in Saudi Arabia, which I thought was a visionary document. I went back through this process and I studied basically every economic project in the post World War II period. So we looked at what they did in South Korea, why it was successful with some strong industrial planning. We looked at Japan, we looked at Singapore, we looked at Poland, why it was successful. We spent a lot of time on the Ukraine, Ukraine plan for the country and why it wasn't successful. And that was mostly because of governance and corruption, which actually resembles a lot of what's gone wrong with the Palestinians. Where there's no property rights, there's no rule of law. And what we did is we built a plan to show it's not that hard in the sense that between the west bank and Gaza you had 5 million people. And we put together a plan. I think it was about $27 billion. We got together a conference. I had the head of AT&T. We had Steve Schwarzman from Blackstone came, which was very gracious of. We had all the leading Arabic businessmen, the leading builders, leading developers. And the general consensus of that conference was that this is very doable. We think that for Gaza in particular, it would cost maybe 7 to 8 billion dollars to rebuild the entire place. We felt we could reduce the poverty rate in half. We can create over a million jobs there. The only thing that people said was holding it back wasn't Israel. What was holding it back was governance. And people wouldn't have covered confidence investing there with the rule that Hamas was perpetuating.

[Adam Curry]

So this sounds to me like a lot of the setup for the plan that the President is talking about, literally mentioning Jordan and Egypt. And the plan was advanced. This plan has been going all along.

[Expert]

I encourage people actually to look at the plan. It was very thoughtful. It was 181 pages. We went project by project. Each project is called Toss it out. It's a real plan that could be implemented, but you need the right governance. And all of the different Arabic countries are willing to fund it. The international community is willing to fund it because they've just been throwing so much money at the Palestinians for years. That's never been outcomes based or conditions based. It's just been entitlement money. And unfortunately it hasn't really achieved any outcomes that have been successful. So it's a great business plan. It just shows too rebuilding Gaza could be easy. But like I said, the problem that's held the Palestinian people back and that's made their lives terrible in Gaza has not been Israel. It's really been Hamas's leadership or lack of leadership, and their desire to focus on trying to kill Israelis and start war with Israel over improving the lives of the Palestinian people. I mean, Hamas has been running it now for 16 years and they don't have a lot to show for it. And our posture with them was basically a very simple deal. If you think about what's the end state in Gaza, it's actually really not that complicated. There's no territorial disputes. The border's the border. There's no religious issues there as well. You're not dealing with Jerusalem. You're basically just dealing with the fact that Israel wants to make sure that there's no threat from Gaza. So it's a demilitarization or some kind of security guarantee from a credible source where Israel doesn't feel like Gaza can be used to stage attacks into Israel or to fire rockets into Israel. But Hamas has not shown a desire for that or a capability for that. And I don't think, think there's enough trust to allow them to do that. Which is why under the current circumstances, if you do want to have peace there, Hamas has to be either eliminated or severely degraded in terms of their military capabilities.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Check mark, check mark. This is over a year ago. This is exactly what has happened. The plan has been underway for a long time. This is why the President seems so confident. And I'm pretty sure Jordan and Egypt are ready.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't. I don't see it.

[Adam Curry]

What do you see then?

[John C. Dvorak]

I see the same mess that's always been historically, and I don't see it changing at all. I mean, let's look at the track record. I think he's right about the fact that you had bad governance for X number of years, but it's also during that period of bad governance which we have in California, you have a period of brainwashing the public to make them think that this is great, what they're doing. And they're all full of shit, these people. And the Palestinians are troublemakers because of it.

[Adam Curry]

Because of the, the brainwashing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

You can find the textbooks and all the rest about how the Jews are terrible and all the rest of it. And if that doesn't just disappear overnight just because you put some new people in the same thing, like in California or in these schools where, you know, they promote gender studies or gender ideology as kids come home. If the parents are in with it because they're dumb.

[Adam Curry]

Right.

[John C. Dvorak]

But they're lousy parents. They're all. They buy into it, too, but they.

[Adam Curry]

Haven'T blown up the leadership. That's the difference. The Hamas leadership is gone. That's the difference. If you blew up Gavin Newsom, not, not saying you should, you know, and got rid of these city councils and all the corruption.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it was just. It would just reform, man. It would reform. It would reform. It's going to reform in, in Palestine, too.

[Adam Curry]

It's just like. It is like an octopus tentacle just grows on again, kind of.

[John C. Dvorak]

But if you have a population that's all into it and thinks that everything is hunky dory and they refuse to do this, they refuse to do that. No, this is bull crap. This is going nowhere.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I think this is the plan they're trying to implement, that they can.

[John C. Dvorak]

Try all they want. Good luck with that. I think it's just a waste of time and money. But, you know, this idealistic. I mean, yes, they're, you know, they think like, they're. Everyone thinks like an American. This is not the way it is. This is like. But he did make a good point about the corruption, the bad governance of Ukraine and Hamas and the Ukraine's the same way.

[Adam Curry]

And California.

[John C. Dvorak]

Put them all in California or Massachusetts.

[Adam Curry]

You're the Ukraine of America.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's getting there.

[Adam Curry]

Let's stick with the military industrial complex and a little bit with Israel. The Iron Dome. We heard President Trump promised the Iron Dome is coming. Although is it gonna be called the Iron Dome? Here is our Secretary of Defense with the money, honey.

[News Anchor]

We need to update our nuclear triad on land, in sea and on air.

[John C. Dvorak]

But that also includes the Iron Dome.

[News Anchor]

Iron Dome or Golden Dome, whatever you want to call it. We have embraced the executive order of President Trump.

[John C. Dvorak]

We're going to ensure it's included in.

[News Anchor]

Reconciliation Money in the FY26, all our budgets going forward to invest in the ability. Maria, get this novel idea.

[Expert]

To defend our homeland.

[News Anchor]

That's why we're focusing on our southern border and the invasion there, the 100% operational control and then our skies.

[Adam Curry]

So Golden Dome. Iron Dome. Maria, money, honey. Bartiromo dives in deeper.

[News Anchor]

Joining me now is US Israel Education association senior policy advisor.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, I love this. This is the US US Israel, The America Israel Education association advisor. Yes. This is the funding arm for aipac. And this is what I've consistently said because I followed the money. You can look at the 990s, you can see that it's Raytheon and Boeing who put money into the education fund. Nonprofit and the education funds. Aipac. Not for Israel to control every. Everybody, but for the military industrial complex to control everybody, which they do. No doubt about it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, we have. We still have producers out there who listen to the show and think that you're a Zionist for even suggesting.

[Adam Curry]

Excuse me.

[John C. Dvorak]

We are dominating the situation in the way things go. Yes.

[Adam Curry]

Boomer. Zionist. Okay. I mean.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, you're a boomer.

[Adam Curry]

I didn't have boomers. Piece of crap. That's what it is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Well, yes, that's what this one guy called you.

[Adam Curry]

So. So why is this guy telling us about the Golden Dome? Because he's part of the military industrial complex and we're going to build this thing and it's interesting and it's not.

[John C. Dvorak]

Going to do anything.

[News Anchor]

Well, listen, joining me now is US Israel Education association senior policy advisor and rocket scientist senior Ari Sacher.

[Adam Curry]

And he's a rocket. Rocket scientists, not unimportant.

[News Anchor]

President Trump told me he's probably going to call it something else, something like the golden sphere or golden sphere.

[Adam Curry]

I think golden balls will be the golden sphere, the golden dome. We have to come up with a better name than that.

[News Anchor]

Me, he's probably going to call it something else, something like the golden sphere or golden dome. Tell me how this works and a little about the Iron Dome that is used right now in Israel, sir. So let me tell you at the.

[Adam Curry]

Outset, the golden condom, the golden egg. I mean we've got, they've got to do something. They got to start marketing this properly. Now let's listen to what it is.

[News Anchor]

So let me tell you at the.

[Adam Curry]

Outset, the President is using the term Iron Dome as, as a metaphor. Iron Dome is metaphor slide that. Defense small areas, city sized areas is against threats that are launched from about 40 miles away. So it's perfect for defending Israel from Gaza, Lebanon. It is not something that the United States needs very much. United States has a small number of batteries of Iron Dome and that defends deployed forces. But to defend the US Homeland, as the President wants to do, you need something completely different. You're defending against rockets not launched from Canada or Mexico or that I know of, but you're defending against rockets that are launched from North Carolina, Korea, from China, from Russia potentially. And you need something far more complex than Iron Dome to shoot it down. What the President is looking at is something that probably would be called space based intercept. You bring up a whole bunch of interceptors into outer space and the whole intercept will take place outer space. So if you want to call it Iron Dome or you want to call it Fred, doesn't make a difference. It's not iron. Iron Dome. But the chances of it succeeding are excellent. US has a tremendous amount of engineers and gumption. Space force. Yeah baby. Let's call it the Orange Dome. There you go. That's better. That's going to be. Isn't there some treaty or not supposed to weaponize space? I mean it's not like we haven't already done that. The Chinese haven't already done that. But that should get.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I think there is a treaty.

[Adam Curry]

That gets, should get some pushback.

[John C. Dvorak]

But the whole thing is a way. This is just a fiasco. No, I think, I mean that's what really nuclear Deterrence is all about. Yeah, okay, you can bomb us, but then we're going to just wipe out your entire.

[Adam Curry]

No, no, no, no, no. We zap your, your hypersonic missiles with.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sure we do.

[Adam Curry]

With the golden, with our golden stream.

[John C. Dvorak]

I knew you. I was wondering how long it would take for you to go.

[Adam Curry]

It took me at least six minutes. Come on, give me, give me some credit. Well, you know, and Elon's gonna build it. This. I mean I was, I was alive when Reagan was like, yeah, we're gonna put in Star Wars. Whatever happened to that didn't work.

[John C. Dvorak]

It didn't. Well, they couldn't get.

[Adam Curry]

They couldn't.

[John C. Dvorak]

None of this stuff works. I mean if you have a multiple re entry product that's like you send up an ICBM and then it breaks into a hundred little pieces and 100 little bo. Just go scattering around every which way. It's pretty hard. You can stop one or two. And then we have the upcoming drone warfare which comes under the radar. And that mean that's going to be the. I think going to be the future of a lot of these battles. These drones just flying around.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is a mess. They got to, you know, establish a peaceful world.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, well, you do that through strength, through war. Yeah, exactly.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let's talk a little bit about this situation with, with Eric Adams.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Can you do you in these clips or can you tell me exactly what the charges were on him? Because as far as I can recall.

[John C. Dvorak]

A couple of Turkish Airlines upgrades because.

[Adam Curry]

They said, I want you to introduce me to somebody and I'm upgrading you to. From business.

[John C. Dvorak]

Just a little bit of that. That's all involves turkey. And also then there's a charge that they were getting to, which they didn't get to, which was him lying, lying to the FBI about what was going on. But the whole thing was, you know, the Justice Department dropped it. But the way. This is a presentation on PBS again.

[Adam Curry]

Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

And this is a pack of lies. This. I, I've traced this down. I believe there's a beef going on between the Federalist Society. Oh, and the Trump administration and a new guy. Because there's a, there's a change of leadership at the Federalist Society and there's this guy who's taking over called Leonard Leo.

[Adam Curry]

Can you tell me about the Federalist Society? Is this like the Federalist Society is.

[John C. Dvorak]

The super conservative operation that's involved with the judicial picks? The Gorsuch, Amy Comey, Barrett and Kavanaugh were all chosen by the Federalist Society when Trump's first when he was first in office, almost every judge that he appointed was pre picked by the Federalist Society.

[Adam Curry]

Can I ask you question? So when I think Federalist Society I think of the Federalist Party and the anti Federalist Party. When we were getting the Constitution together and there was beef. It's not the same thing.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, it's just, just a group of super, super conservatives that believe in a very, very conservative. No, no leeway whatsoever type of operation. And they, and they're mostly concentrating on the judicial and they have people planted all over the place. And I believe this is a power play because when Trump put in Pam Bondi without consulting these guys.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, that's the issue.

[John C. Dvorak]

They, these guys really think they're the tail wagging the dog and they're especially this new guy, Leonard Leo. You should just look him up on Wikipedia. He's an egomaniac who spends a lot of money at seams and he is a throwing his weight around. He's one of these guys who, he thinks he's the president kind of, you know where you're, you're the guy behind the scenes. If anybody remembers old California politics from the before I was born, but in the 30s and 40s, this guy Arthur.

[Adam Curry]

Samish, okay, so he supported not only John Roberts, Sam Alito, Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Baird, but also Clarence Thomas.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, these guys really think they run the place because they kind of do when it comes to the judicial to this, this point. But they weren't consulted on Bondi. There may be some, some and Bondi's got some issues that irk these guys. And so I think this was the whole Eric Adams thing, the way it was handled because we go through these clips. I'll tell you my complaints about each one of these clips. The PBS guys are, are having nothing but fun over this because the person who started this and I believe the Federalist Societies behind the, the mass resignation. Yeah, when you have a mass resignation, somebody is orchestrating it. This doesn't. I've been in enough operations to know this because I've done it myself.

[Adam Curry]

Have you ever mass resigned?

[John C. Dvorak]

I put together one once. It's a story that I'm not going to discuss.

[Adam Curry]

Troublemaker. You.

[John C. Dvorak]

I am a troublemaker. And so this Danielle Sassoon is like, oh, she was the acting top prosecutor, U.S. attorney. LA LA la la la. And nobody mentions in any of these reports, any of them. You can look and look and look. You won't find it. The fact is she was in office as acting for three whole weeks. Three whole weeks, yes.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[John C. Dvorak]

So she shows up, next thing you know, she quits in a huff over the Eric Adams things. And we'll go through these clips and I can complain more, but let's start with the Eric Adams fiasco. Clip 1.

[Adam Curry]

A wave of resignations is shaking up.

[News Anchor]

The US Justice Department after the Trump.

[Adam Curry]

Administration gave orders to drop the corruption.

[News Anchor]

Case against New York City Mayor Eric Adams.

[Adam Curry]

So far, at least seven officials have.

[News Anchor]

Quit and Adams is facing increasingly loud.

[Adam Curry]

Calls to step down.

[News Anchor]

The exodus began yesterday with one of New York's top federal prosecutors, and it's already being dubbed the Thursday Afternoon massacre, recalling the famous Saturday Night Massacre during the Watergate scandal. William Brangham begins our coverage.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, hold on. Sassoon, a member of the deeply conservative Federalist Society, is a rising star in legal circles. In her resignation letter, Sassoon name checked her former mentor, Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia. Okay, yes. All right, you've picked up on something important here. This is good.

[John C. Dvorak]

She's, she's, her credentials are impeccable. And the guy who's the other guy that I think was important on this is this guy Hagen Scott. Hagen Scott, who was one of the guys who was leading the investigation of Eric Adams. And the two of them, she has one child and one on the way. Family, woman, married. And the Scott and guy's got three kids. And that you just don't up and quit a job like this with a big family like that unless you get, you get guarantees. So it goes, don't worry about it. You can quit. But you, you, you, you're going to land on your feet. When in fact, if you quit the way these two did and the other five, it's like, no, you're never going to get work again in this town is the way it should go. But no, they, they've been set up. This whole thing is a scam and it's, and it's being, and the media loves it because you have, these people are impeccable, impeccable. This, this, this Scott, the, this Hagen character, this guy's double bronze star rattles up the ass. You know, he's a, these are super conservatives that are, you can say, well, look, these super conservatives, they quit on the Trump administration because it's corrupt. Trump's corrupt and so is Pam Bondi. But let's finish these clips.

[News Anchor]

Throughout this entire ordeal, which I think.

[Adam Curry]

Today New York City Mayor Eric Adams was playing defense. I had to endure for something I didn't do.

[News Anchor]

I Didn't do anything wrong, including a.

[Adam Curry]

PR blitz on Fox News. All the while, the US Department of Justice is in upheaval over the fate of the corruption case it brought against the mayor. Yesterday, six DOJ officials resigned after refusing an order from the department in Washington to dismiss the case. Acting U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, Danielle Sassoon, a Republican who clerked for the late Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, started the exodus. Oh, she started the exodus, okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, she was the initiator. Working there three weeks, not taking orders from her boss. So I just started the job. I'm working there three weeks. My boss says, you gotta drop this case. I have reasons. Or we have reasons. Or we don't think it's a good case, or it doesn't make any difference. Why? Because you're working there three weeks, you're on probation, and you. Oh, I'm not going to listen to you. I quit. And so then, by the way, people.

[Adam Curry]

I expect you to say that one day on this show. To me, I think it's going to happen.

[John C. Dvorak]

Not working for you. I quit. And so. And the media just laps it up because this is like a kind of a crack in the arm.

[Adam Curry]

Soap opera. It's a soap opera. They love it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. And it's bull crap. And the logic of it makes no sense. This is total insubordina coordination that was orchestrated by somebody and I suspect a federalist society. But on to clip two.

[Adam Curry]

Three. Three.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, that was. That was two.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah, this is two.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, well, then clip three kind of summarizes an interesting thought.

[Adam Curry]

Writing to Trump's new Attorney General, Pam Bondi, Sassoon accused Mayor Adams and officials in the DOJ of what amounted to a quid pro that Adams would aid Trump's immigration enforcement if the DOJ dropped his case. Sassoon excoriated that alleged offer, writing, quote, it is a breathtaking and dangerous precedent to reward Adams opportunistic and shifting commitments on immigration and other policy matters with dismissal of a criminal indictment. Now, is she the one that's said that Adam's lawyer had said that in the meeting?

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know who said that, but I just want to back into this the concept that the Justice Department. There's a couple of things. The Justice Department, for one thing, did a deal with somebody. Gee, that's never happened in the history of the justice system in the United States. No one's ever done a deal with somebody to get them to cooperate in one way or another. That's never happened. Before. So this is a big shocker.

[Adam Curry]

Quid, probably.

[John C. Dvorak]

And then they keep. Then they keep bringing up this prosecutor. Prosecutorial misconduct. That's bullcrap. Because prosecutorial misconduct always has to do with screwing over some guy, not letting him go free. So this whole thing is orchestrated and it's phony and the PBS doesn't dig into it. Nobody mentions that this girl, this chick, Sassoon chick was there for three whole weeks and she's standing up against the, the DOJ and Pam Bondi. Give me a break.

[Adam Curry]

Sassoon chick.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sassoon chick.

[Adam Curry]

How old is she? Let me see. She's.

[John C. Dvorak]

She's young.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, she does seem.

[John C. Dvorak]

But she did some big. She's done some big, Big.

[Adam Curry]

She was. She's a millennial.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sam Bankman freed prosecutor.

[Adam Curry]

She did the. Sam Bankman freed. And she also did. She did something.

[John C. Dvorak]

She's no slouch. No, I'm not saying that she's not a slosh, but she's. Something's corrupt about the whole thing.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, the. What else does she do? She's on some racketeering cases, sex trafficking for three weeks.

[John C. Dvorak]

You do what you're told. You'd think, especially in this sort of situation. I mean, it's. Come on. This happens all the time. And so even if there was a quid pro quo, which they keep talking about, they can't prove, but they keep saying it safe. There was. This guy is going to help Trump clean up New York and make everything better. And this is a bad idea.

[Adam Curry]

Bad idea. Supply.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

You want to hear the NPR clips on this or do you want to. You have one more Eric Adams clip. I see.

[John C. Dvorak]

Play the last one.

[Adam Curry]

Yesterday, Mayor Adams met with Trump's border czar, Tom Homan, and sat beside him on Fox News this morning.

[News Anchor]

Morning.

[Adam Curry]

As he denied Sassoon's claims.

[News Anchor]

That's quid pro quo.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's a crime.

[News Anchor]

It took her three weeks to report in front of her a criminal action.

[Adam Curry]

Come on, this is silly. But then Homan implied that if Adams didn't help with immigration in his office up his butt, saying, where the hell is the agreement we came to? Acting U.S. deputy Attorney General and former Trump lawyer Emil Bovey, who ordered the dismissal, rejected the assertion that there was any quid pro. In a response to Sassoon, he wrote that she lost sight of her oath and should not, quote, interpret the Constitution in a manner inconsistent with the policies of a democratically elected president. Adams had pleaded not guilty last year to federal charges of accepting bribes and illegal campaign contributions from Turkish Nationals. Now a flurry of Democrats are calling, calling on Adams to step down and calling on New York Governor Democrat Kathy Hochul to remove him from office, which she'd have the authority to do for DOJ officials. The so called Thursday afternoon massacre continued today.

[News Anchor]

Hagan Scotten, the line prosecutor who handled.

[Adam Curry]

The Adams case, quit with a defiant message to Bovey refusing his motion to dismiss the case. Scotten wrote, I expect you will eventually find someone who is enough of a.

[News Anchor]

Fool or enough of a coward to file your motion, but it was never.

[Adam Curry]

Going to be me. Reportedly, Bovee was able to find a DOJ lawyer willing to sign the motion this afternoon. This is a good sequence you had here because exactly what you talk about and of course the focus of Sassoon is only that she's so awesome and she really led the charge. And this is no one agrees because it's Trump and politicization going after his political enemy, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. That's what's sticking. It's really sticking. And this interview or this appearance he did on Fox with Holman has just got everybody in a tizzy as of course we must once again resort to MSNBC and the superstar Joy Reid.

[News Anchor]

But we begin tonight with Donald Trump's take on Law and Order as we now live in a country where the rule of law comes second to whatever Trump wants. As of today, seven top federal prosecutors and officials, including the acting U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, Danielle Sassoon, saying that she witnessed Adams attorney indicate that Adams would only be able to help push Trump's immigration enforcement policies if the charges against him were dropped.

[Adam Curry]

And before I continue with the clip, so apparently this happened three weeks ago when she just got there, is when this horrible quid pro quo. CRO CRO, quid crow, crid pro cuomo. Quid pro quoid pro quo was suggested. She held onto it this morning.

[News Anchor]

Adams responded, of course, on Fox, of.

[Adam Curry]

Course, because that's the president's network. Think about that.

[News Anchor]

Think about that. Think about my attorney, Alex Spira wanted to one of of the top trial attorneys in the country. Imagine him going inside saying that the only way Mayor Adams is going to assist in immigration, which I was calling for, for since 2022, is if you drop the charges.

[Adam Curry]

That's quid pro quo. That's a crime.

[News Anchor]

It took her three weeks to report in front of her a criminal action. Come on, this is silly.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, Bills, okay, this is silly. But you know when you say it on Fox, it's not true. True.

[News Anchor]

Well, first I should note that Adam's attorney, Alex Spiro, who you just heard him mention, also represents none other than.

[Adam Curry]

Who who can you but can you guess who? You'll never guess.

[John C. Dvorak]

Jeffrey Epstein.

[Adam Curry]

No.

[News Anchor]

Close.

[Adam Curry]

Close. I'll give you one more guess.

[John C. Dvorak]

Weinstein.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, man. So close. No.

[News Anchor]

Trump's co president, Elon Musk.

[Adam Curry]

Trump's co president.

[John C. Dvorak]

Good.

[Adam Curry]

Elon Musk.

[John C. Dvorak]

F I like the co president, Epstein.

[Adam Curry]

Would have been better.

[News Anchor]

Interesting, right?

[John C. Dvorak]

Epstein would have been better.

[Adam Curry]

Interesting, right? It's interesting, right? Interesting. Right.

[News Anchor]

And second, it is hard not to find it ridiculous when Adams is seen sitting next to Trump's border czar, Tom Holman right there on fox, who just minutes later all but confirms the quid pro quo with a threat to Adams on live tv.

[Adam Curry]

If he doesn't come true, I'll be back in New York City and we won't be sitting on a couch.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'll be in his office. Office up.

[Adam Curry]

Up his butt saying where the hell is the agreement we came to?

[News Anchor]

Up his butt. Nice.

[Adam Curry]

Tom Brokaw is rolling over in his grave.

[John C. Dvorak]

He's dead.

[Adam Curry]

That's what I said. He's rolling over in his grave. Yeah, you can't believe that news. Now I can't believe you're hearing the term. And of course, everyone's quick to jump in because, hey, there's going to be a spot. It's going to be a spot. Let's jump in. Let's bring in some familiar faces. Very familiar to me as a former New Yorker.

[News Anchor]

New this morning, Curtis Sliwa has officially filed paperwork to run for New York City mayor.

[Adam Curry]

Sliwa. I have to say, Curtis Sliwa was such a badass back in the late 80s and the 90s in New York. The Guardian Angels, it was the people, people protecting the people. And he's still walking around with that silly beret on his head.

[John C. Dvorak]

The beret. The red beret.

[Adam Curry]

The beret. The beret is like, dude, we get it.

[News Anchor]

Sliwa is, of course, the founder of the Guardian Angels and was a Republican nominee for mayor in 2021, ultimately losing that election to Mayor Adams in a campaign post. Sliwa has said he will prioritize public safety and quality of life issues. Meantime, former New York Governor Andrew Cuomo has been mulling a run for mayor as well. Cuomo has not made things official, but he did post a campaign style video on social media yesterday.

[Adam Curry]

It's frightening out there on the streets, but we have been through this before as New Yorkers. We've seen the ups.

[John C. Dvorak]

We've Seen the downs.

[Adam Curry]

And we know how to make this city work, work and make this state safe for everyone. And that's exactly what we're going to do.

[News Anchor]

This was from a Valentine's Day event at the Johnson Houses Community center yesterday, which was hosted by assembly member Eddie Gibbs Cuomo.

[Adam Curry]

Quid pro. Cuomo. Not looking good. He looks frail. His voice is frail.

[John C. Dvorak]

The old man, the governor.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. Very, very thin, looking kind of gauntish. No, it's not good. It's not good. The. Let me see. Are we. I think we're done with that, right? We have nothing else.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think we covered it.

[Adam Curry]

So, interesting little piece of video I caught. You know, where we've been talking about just staying in New York here with the. The $59 million that was being spent on the Roosevelt Hotel. Or I guess does the no Agenda style guide allow us to say illegal aliens again? I think that's back, right? We can say that now.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think we could always say it.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Well, that's. You can have your opinions, but, you know, got to be careful about what you say in the uk. And this was on GB News, of course. Camelot Castle. A Camelot castle famous for hotel that goes back to the time, you know, supposedly that's where King Arthur had his round table of knights. And, you know, it's in a village and it's a. It's a castle. And they got rooms in the castle.

[John C. Dvorak]

King Arthur was out on the. Out in the. Out in the. In the western part of the country, over in whatever that area is, the western part.

[Adam Curry]

The Camelot Castle associated with King. King Arthur.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, that's just named Camelot.

[Adam Curry]

No, but I'm reading from the London. Okay, okay, listen. It's a castle.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's bull crap. Anyway, please continue.

[Adam Curry]

That's the marketing story. Okay. It's the marketing story. The proprietor of Camelot Castle explained what the British government wanted to do with him. Regarding illegal aliens in Great Britain.

[News Anchor]

You refused a request from the Home Office to house migrants. What did they offer? Why did you turn it down?

[Adam Curry]

Well, it was a considerable amount of money, Beverly. It was probably double what we would normally make on. On a good year because they offered full occupancy on a rolling contract for a year.

[News Anchor]

So how does that work? Somebody literally just picks up the phone to you, or do they send you a letter?

[Adam Curry]

They sent us a letter first.

[News Anchor]

Right.

[Adam Curry]

And to be honest with you, I thought it was a joke. And because of the amount of money they were offering, well, I just couldn't believe that the government wanted to Put, you know, illegal migrants up in £4 poster beds at Camelot Castle. I mean, it was absolutely remarkable. It would have destroyed the village because one of the things they said is to lay off all the staff and all but two, because they do meals, Meals on wheels. You clean the rooms once a week. You're probably a big employer in the village. Well, a major employer in the village and locally. And of course, those jobs in a village like Tintagel, they wouldn't be replaced. No. So. So. But also they would have stacked the place up with about 300 people. And, you know, you then have those people wandering around the village. I don't know whether they. Whether they intended to contain them or whether they would be allowed out and about. I know, in other areas. Certainly hotels in Newquay have had some serious problems because there were a few hotels that did take the migrants there.

[News Anchor]

Presumably people who stay at your hotel then spend their money in the village.

[Adam Curry]

Well, of course they do. They do spend their money there. And it would have destroyed the local economy. You know, it's hard to say how many hundreds of thousands of pounds our guests spend in the village, but certainly a fair amount. But it's also the. The cultural degradation that goes along with this. New York. What is it? We got memos from people who had weddings scheduled. Was it Pennsylvania?

[John C. Dvorak]

It's all over the place.

[Adam Curry]

The Netherlands.

[John C. Dvorak]

Like some sort of a conspiracy.

[Adam Curry]

That's the thing. It's like. It does seem like this was a coordinated move to destroy the world. Basically bring it all down. Bring all societies, particularly in heartlands, just bring it down. Bring it all down. Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Who needs that aggravation?

[Adam Curry]

No, but a lot of people took the deal. Of course, a lot of people took the deal.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, when the offer. Twice as much as you normally get, which is what the guy implied.

[Adam Curry]

Well, we know the Dutch, remember that family, Van der Folk. They took the deal and then the family got into a big fight over it and, you know, that blew the family apart. But half of them didn't want to do it, and the other one was like, look at the money. And he was taking money for just presenting the deal to the family? I think. So it's. It's insanity. Insanity. And why? Why? Because. Oh, I learned something. You know, this, this. This new style we've picked up of someone saying, why? Because it has. It has a name.

[John C. Dvorak]

Asking themselves questions.

[Adam Curry]

It's called Hypophora.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hypophora.

[Adam Curry]

Hypophora. Fora figure speech, in which the speaker poses a question, then answers the question, and it is really a psychological trick.

[John C. Dvorak]

What's the trick? Accomplish. I'm looking at annoy you and me.

[Adam Curry]

That is the main reason they're doing it, of course.

[John C. Dvorak]

To annoy you and me.

[Adam Curry]

The rhetorical effectiveness lies in allowing the speaker to answer questions the listener may have. So if you have this question, we're going to give you. We're going to confirm your question and then give you the answer in a different direction. Hypophora is used as a transitional device to take the discussion in a new direction. A device to catch attention since a reader or listener's curiosity is stimulated by hearing a question and to suggest the answer that the reader or listener may not have thought of. So it's a.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's a good control. It's a control.

[Adam Curry]

It's.

[John C. Dvorak]

I guess I like it.

[Adam Curry]

Neuro linguistic programming.

[John C. Dvorak]

I guess now I like it more than before.

[Adam Curry]

Now we have to really pay attention.

[John C. Dvorak]

To who's doing it because their people are just directing the conversation in the direction they want. So in other words, there's no conversation.

[Adam Curry]

No. And why? Because.

[John C. Dvorak]

Then why and why?

[Adam Curry]

Because they. They want to control your mind. That's why. There you go. I'm going to do. I have one clip of biolenism, which is also known as trans Maoism. As President Trump has now signed executive orders that the government funds may not be used for gender operations, which is also known as gender affirming care for children under 19. Which means. Really only means that Medicare can't pay for it. If you want to do it, you know, and you want to pay for it yourself. And that's another thing. So they're protesting this outside the Lurie's Children's Hospital. I think in Chicago.

[News Anchor]

Trans rights are human rights. Hundreds of people protested outside the children's hospital.

[Adam Curry]

Not only one, only one was trans. Who was protesting? Everybody there does not look trans at all. The people who are speaking on camera. Not trans except for one. But that's a male to female trans, which I don't think there was much operating done that perhaps breast enhancements.

[News Anchor]

Over the hospital's decision to pause gender affirming surgeries for patients under the age of 19. Legislators have no benefit. Business to be stepping into medical decisions. The hospital says it will continue to provide some services for transgender youth. We can receive gender affirming hormones and puberty blockers. But if they're willing to take away top surgery, which is such a pivotal part of people's transitions and people's.

[Adam Curry]

I just love top surgery. You mean a double mastectomy Mastectomy it's now just known as top surgery.

[News Anchor]

Lives. Then what? What's next? The decision came shortly after President Trump signed an executive order stopping federal support for gender transitions. A federal judge temporarily blocked Trump's executive order on Thursday. Demonstrators say the move can cause serious harm to transgender people. As we know.

[Adam Curry]

Here it comes now. You always want to throw this in because, as we know. Why? Because, as we know, to transgender people.

[News Anchor]

As we know, many trans youth who can't get access to health care commit suicide. Unfortunately.

[Adam Curry]

It's so tired. It's so tired. The evidence is not conclusive on that at all. But that's the psychological trick we've played over and over again. If we don't give trans children health care, note the term health care, they will kill themselves.

[News Anchor]

Demonstrators say the move can cause serious harm to transgender people. As we know, many trans youth who can't get access to health care commit suicide. Unfortunately, at the rally, we heard from transgender advocates. I'm the product of a transition before the age of 19 years old.

[Adam Curry]

I just don't know if this. This man, dressed and looking very feminine, has had bottom surgery.

[News Anchor]

I was supported. I had access to care.

[John C. Dvorak]

And because of that, I'm standing here today whole healthy, thriving parents with children.

[News Anchor]

Who are patients at the hospital, all healthy and thriving. They're choosing to live their true selves because not doing so hurts them more than anything the bullies can do. What do we do? Many in the crowd fear the changes this hospital made are just the beginning. Lori's is a leader in this space, so if they back down, other smaller companies and smaller organizations will follow. In a statement, Lori Children's Hospital called the decision difficult and said they're monitoring further developments on this issue.

[Adam Curry]

You know, in 1990, I did a documentary of Thailand, and we did a whole bunch of crazy things, you know, drank cobra blood. Stayed with the hill tribe up near the. The Burmese.

[John C. Dvorak]

They're doing Snake Alley in Taiwan.

[Adam Curry]

I thought it was, you know, they killed the first. They make the cobra angry, and then they milk them, and then they slit them open.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah, it was disgusting.

[Adam Curry]

It's very disgusting. And, you know, we went to see. Oh, it was bad. Went to see the long necks, which turned out to be a tourist trap. But we also. In Bangkok, we went to a ladyboy show. And I remember interviewing the ladyboys, and I recall saying, so why do you want to be a woman? Yeah. In 1990, I was. How old was I? Like, 30.

[News Anchor]

30.

[Adam Curry]

30 something. Not even. Yeah, 30. And they got mad at me. They Said, no, no, we're not women. We're ladyboys. They literally would get mad if you thought that they wanted to be women. They said, no, we're just ladyboys. This is what we want to be. And that would solve a lot of problems.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, that's not going to happen.

[Adam Curry]

No, it's not going to happen.

[John C. Dvorak]

I have two.

[Adam Curry]

But I just wanted to say something on the dead front because I have breaking news. It's breaking news. My buddy. My buddy, the former Hollywood executive. You know who I'm talking about?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I know exactly who you're talking about.

[Adam Curry]

Is suing Disney.

[John C. Dvorak]

Good.

[Adam Curry]

And so I can now tell you who his name is, because it's in print. Robert Steffens. Rob Steffens, who served as CFO and then president of Marvel from 2015 to 2023, filed a complaint that a Disney executive informed him that he would not be promoted to president of Disney Consumer Products because of his age and race. Steffens claimed that then Marvel CEO Isaac Perlmutter, also known as Ike, told him in February 2022 that word came from then Disney CEO Bob Chapek that he would not receive the promotion because the company couldn't award the job, to quote another old world white guy, the job Perfect lawsuit.

[John C. Dvorak]

They just have to settle. This won't even go to court.

[Adam Curry]

The job was then given to a woman of, quote, ambiguous ethnicity, per the complaint. One more, one more, one more paragraph. Steffens. Allegedly, he was also denied the promotion for objecting to other incidents of racial discrimination that he witnessed at the House of the Mouse in the past. The former Marvel executive claimed that Disney was engaged in, quote, an official effort to promote vice presidents based on their race. And a memorandum so that he has. He has the receipts that would have referred to employees with the racial signifier bipoc. Disney's actions were willful, wanton, malicious, intentional, oppressive, and despicable, and were done in willful and conscious disregard of the rights, welfare, and safety of Mr. Steffens. I'm thinking he's going to be starting his own entertainment company soon.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, that could be, but I think he should donate to the show.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah, no, big time. Because we've been a huge supporter of him without ever naming him.

[John C. Dvorak]

So back to the gender issues, which I guess are somewhat related.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, related.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let's go to. There's a new gender.

[Adam Curry]

No.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

No.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's unbelievable. There were 75.

[Adam Curry]

It is the policy of this administration. There are two genders.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, here's the new one. This is the gender season.

[News Anchor]

Did you know, however, there is a gender identity that is linked to the. The seasons. This is called gender season. And this is a gender identity I've only just learned about. It's a micro identity. It's not an identity that I have ever heard discussed before. It's a new one for me. Gender season is an individual who explores their gender identity in relation to a season or all the seasons. So this might be somebody whose gender expression and identity is linked to one season. So, for example, winter. Or this might be somebody whose gender identity and expression changes depending on the season.

[Adam Curry]

This is completely in line with what I've been saying for a year. It's the gender season of reveal, everybody.

[John C. Dvorak]

The gender season. That's why people are named autumn and summer and winter and fall. Okay, wow. So there's that. And then, then we have the. This is a new movement that I caught early here. This is the trans prepper.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, this is good.

[News Anchor]

With concentration camps looming in the United States, here's what queer people are doing.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, I said concentration camps.

[News Anchor]

You can maga. Oh, we are getting a go bag ready. We are getting all of our documents ready.

[John C. Dvorak]

So driver's license, birth certificate, Social Security card, passport.

[Adam Curry]

Now, if you have to revert your.

[News Anchor]

Passport and your documents to previously said gender identities that you were born with, do so. I'm allowed to do so with my.

[Adam Curry]

Driver'S license that says X on it. In the state that I'm in, I'm going Monday to revert that to my.

[News Anchor]

Gender assigned at birth. So the next step, we're going to.

[Adam Curry]

Have a go bag with shoes, clothes.

[News Anchor]

For seven days, dehydrated food, think astronaut.

[Adam Curry]

Food for seven days.

[News Anchor]

We're gonna have a thousand dollars cash.

[Adam Curry]

Or Bitcoin prepaid credit card on hand. And this is just for the emergency.

[News Anchor]

This isn't for permanency. This is for a week of getting by off the grid. We're gonna have anything ready for the pets that we're taking with us.

[Adam Curry]

So put some cat litter in, in your trunk.

[News Anchor]

Put some cat food or dog food in your trunk. Make sure there's a leash there. Make sure you have everything ready for everything that you're.

[John C. Dvorak]

You're taking with you.

[Adam Curry]

Some lattes. Make sure your med medication is available.

[News Anchor]

And in extra stock.

[Adam Curry]

So stock up on it.

[News Anchor]

Ask your doctor for a three month.

[Adam Curry]

Supply at one time. Keep your gas tank full.

[Expert]

Have all of this stuff available and.

[Adam Curry]

Ready to go in a moment's notice.

[Expert]

For every single person in your family.

[Adam Curry]

You do not need a passport to.

[News Anchor]

Get into Canada or Mexico.

[Adam Curry]

You just need your documents, but that.

[News Anchor]

Doesn'T mean you shouldn't have a passport.

[Expert]

Ready to go.

[Adam Curry]

Have a beautiful day and stay safe, my transgender family. Wow. Trans survivalist movement.

[John C. Dvorak]

That is.

[Adam Curry]

That is. That's interesting.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

I think that they should all go to Berkeley. That's. We all meet with our go bags in Berkeley. We meet with our go bags in Berkeley. And have you found more of these videos of the trans.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'll start bringing them up. Up as they come.

[Adam Curry]

This is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, there's been a few.

[Adam Curry]

This is. But so what concentration camps are they referring to?

[John C. Dvorak]

He just says Google it. Mega.

[Adam Curry]

Well, a maga. Let me Google.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's what he said.

[Adam Curry]

Trans concentration camps. Okay, let's see. I'm Googling it as per instructed. The. Well, they had them during the Nazi era, apparently.

[John C. Dvorak]

Both same thing. This is the Nazi era. Hello.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. I cannot Google anything current of said concentration camps.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, you're not doing it right.

[Adam Curry]

I'm not Googling right.

[John C. Dvorak]

So I got a couple of clips about Doge.

[Adam Curry]

Okay. I just want to say I feel bad for these people. I mean, it's horrible. Horrible that our. Our fellow citizens are. Have been so psyoped into this insanity. And I wish there was something I could do for them.

[John C. Dvorak]

You're doing what you can.

[Adam Curry]

I am. I'm doing what I can.

[John C. Dvorak]

But it's not enough, obviously. And they don't, you know, they won't listen. At some point. At some point, when you go over the cliff, you're in freefall. There's not really any way. There's no Superman coming to stop you from hitting the. Hitting the bottom.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. In your opinion, having a decade on me, is there anything like this that has happened in the past with any group that felt so marginalized that they were prepping and fleeing for fear of their government?

[John C. Dvorak]

The regular preppers? Well, yeah, they've been around forever. So this is just an offshoot. I don't see the difference really. Okay, so I'm going to start with this clip. This is Brooks, because Brooks and Capehart were on yakking about everything. And so I just took this little snippet from Brooks and then I have to the guy, I feel bad about him. He's delusional. And this little lecture he gives here is just about a guy missing the point, I guess. I'm not sure how you can come to this conclusion, but here we go.

[News Anchor]

What I object to is Donald Trump was elected mostly by working class people who have real problems. They have health disparities with the rest of us. They have educational disparities, they workplace, they live in communities that have, where the social capital is low.

[Adam Curry]

Is this, does brooks have a TikTok account? Is that where he's doing this? This is not on pbs.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, this is on pbs.

[Adam Curry]

Is he on Zoom? What is this?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, it's just the way it sounds. No, he's, he's a remote on this one.

[Adam Curry]

He's remote, ok. Donald Trump was elected by those people.

[News Anchor]

You'd think he'd care enough about them to do something on behalf of the people who elected him. Instead, he's going after, you know, usaid. He's going after any place he thinks there might be liberal people with college degrees. And so what we're seeing is not populism.

[John C. Dvorak]

What we're seeing is a sort of.

[News Anchor]

Ivy League right wing nihilism. And to me, that is so disorienting and so shocking and so appalling that you can't even serve the legitimate needs of the people who put you in power. They're totally off the board this last month.

[Adam Curry]

We need something to happen. We need some kind of win that, you know, like stopping a war or something that can just put everybody on a different track. I don't know if I can handle another four more years of this.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, the thing that bothers me is that he doesn't understand that what Doge is doing is exactly what these voters wanted. Yes, and showing the corruption and waste of their taxpayer money is exactly helping them. I don't know what he's talking about. I do have two more clips I want to play. The Doge Report. There's a woman who comes on every day on Twitter and this is often released by Musk, who does the DOGE Report. And here's the one she just did on the healthcare industry, which is worth listening to because I may be bringing these in more often. Then I have the bonus clip I.

[News Anchor]

Want to play the Doge Report Report Healthcare Edition. So just found that the US Healthcare Corporation spent 95% of their income to share shareholder payouts.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[News Anchor]

Not on more research, not on staffing issues, not on infrastructure, but shareholder payouts that totaled about $2.6 trillion over the last 20 years. Fun fact, the US taxpayers pay about 70% of those fees. Also just breaking wasn't enough to breaking make you two fit to be tied. 2.7 trillion. Again, $2.7 trillion has been improperly paid out in Medicare and Medicaid to people outside of our country. I hope you heard me. I didn't say million. I didn't say billion. I said $2.7 trillion of taxpayer money has been improperly paid in Medicare and Medicaid to people outside side of the United States. Thank God for Doge for exposing this, for showing you how they are robbing us blind, like wasting our money and lining their pockets. More to come.

[Adam Curry]

I'm going to tag on to this and yes, I'd like you to keep on. I saw that, but I think it's your beat now as you definitely keep tabs on her reports breaking. She should do a little better job breaking, just breaking.

[John C. Dvorak]

Right now she's just a kind of an amateur doing good work.

[Adam Curry]

But when it comes comes to the voter base who wanted all this and the medical industrial complex, for lack of a better term, RFK Jr. S acceptance speech when he was sworn in with the president there addressed exactly this. President Trump has promised to restore the American dream. In this country, a healthy person has a thousand dreams. A sick person only has one. 60% of our population has only one dream, that they get better. President Trump has promised that he's going to restore America's strength. But we can't be a strong nation if we have a weak citizenry. If people are sick, 60% of our people are sick, 77%, as President Trump mentioned, of our children cannot qualify for military service. And we need a man on a white horse now. We need somebody who is willing to come in and has the spine and the guts and the strength to challenge orthodoxies, to stand in the way of vested interests and to break institutions that have turned against our democracy. President Trump has shown again and again that he, he is that hero. Yeah, sucking up a little bit. But I love the basic premise. Healthy people have a thousand dreams, sick people have one. That's so right. It's spot on.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, before we get to the last clip, which is the one that, the bonus clip, I have a RFK clip too, which is. This is one of these clips where it's like, I'd like to see this if he can do it. This was on one of the tourney point meetings.

[Adam Curry]

My initial inclination would be to use the Justice Department and the moral authority of the office. But also, you know, the Justice Department should immediately call in the beginning investigation of the medical boards and the, the, the collusion between the pharmaceutical industry and the medical boards that are delicensing these physicians who actually try to heal patients and try to treat them. They, the Justice Department will also call in the medical journals that are corrupted by the pharmaceutical industry and explain to them that they're all going to be subject to criminal and civil RICO actions if they don't show us a way that they're going to stop revoking studies and refusing to publish studies that challenge pharmaceutical, the mercantile interests of pharmaceutical companies. We're going to change the way business is done at nih. Oh, he does leave him, this is new. Now he's like, but I'm going to leave them and out if they show that they can change their ways.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, he gave. Yes, but this is going to be rough because they're going to push back on this. So I, so here's the bonus clip. This was sent by our, our Grand Duke out of San Jose into me this morning. And so I thought it would be good because it talks about kind of the, the, the underpinnings of doge. Yes, it's quite, quite interesting.

[Adam Curry]

You saw, of course I have.

[News Anchor]

Yes, Democrats are doing everything they can to challenge DOGE and they're trying to take it out. But here's why it's going to be nearly impossible for them. In 2014, Obama created the United States Digital Service. It was a government IT task force meant to fix the Obamacare disaster website. It had full access to federal systems, but nobody paid much attention to it. Now fast forward to 2025. Trump rebrands it as the United States Doge Service. Same acronym, same funding, but a completely different mission. Find the receipts. Legally, DOGE is untouchable. Trump invoked five US code 3161, which.

[Reporter]

Lets him create temporary hiring authorities.

[News Anchor]

Now, DOGE teams are inside every federal agency. Each team has a lawyer, an agent.

[Reporter]

HR rep, a young tech genius, an investigator.

[News Anchor]

And they all report to doge, not the agency they are embedded in. Then Trump invoked 44 U.S. code Chapter 35, a law governing federal IT oversight. Since USDS was already an IT oversight body, Doge now has access to every federal database. You can't decide fund IT because it's not a new program, it's just a rebrand. You can't sue for overreach because Trump used existing laws. And if any agency fails to comply, they are violating presidential authority. Oh, and guess what? Elon Musk was given security authorizations and top secret classified access. He now has oversight of every major federal system. So Democrats, the deep state, they can't shut it down without rewriting multiple federal laws.

[Adam Curry]

Man, that last. First of all, yes. And there's even all this video of President Obama and then Vice President Biden, you know, boasting about this, boasting about how great this was. Going to be. And we're going to take care of it and we're going to solve everything. But it's that last bit that has people so spun up, even, you know, who was. Who was out there hammering on me.

[John C. Dvorak]

Amazing Polly, what did Amazing Paulie have to say?

[Adam Curry]

Well, so this is what I. I knew this already, but this time was different. When you go on Rogan, you're not on Rogan, you're not done. When you walk out the studio. No, no, that's when it all starts. Then people make clue. Yeah, people make clues, clips, and just that there's a lot of stuff going on and there's a lot, you know, just because of the things I discussed. There were a lot of big accounts that tweeted these clips. So Bill Ackman, he was tweeting about what I. Because I basically laid out the. The stablecoin system. I talked about what's his face, James O'Keefe. So O'Keefe tweets out a piece, you know, so we got a lot of leverage out of it. But when I can, when someone sends me a note, an email about the. The Rogan show, I know immediately if they listen to it or if they watched it, the people who watched it, then people have lost the ability to listen. It's.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well, we've proven that on this show.

[Adam Curry]

I mean, but it's.

[John C. Dvorak]

When we take our clips and the two of us, both of us do the same thing, we hear stuff that we wouldn't have heard if we watch.

[Adam Curry]

It just gets so incredibly bad when it's video. And particularly, you know, a clip might not have a little bit of. This is the thing I've trained myself in. You know, you have to go and find the original. Listen to the context of the clip. Then. So Rogan says, what do you think of shitcoins? I'm like, there's only one. It's bitcoin, and that's it. And everything else is no good. And. And I said, you know, bitcoin, it's. There's a whole bunch of benefits to it. But I said, the way it seems to be going. And then I went into my whole spiel about stablecoin, how it's being put on top of treasuries. And so my basic premise was, no, I'm good with bitcoin, but amazing poly and. Oh. And I also said, you know, a lot. I said the same thing. I said, on this show, a lot of people are pretty spun up thinking the PayPal mafia, they're going to Encapsulate us in this control grid, and we're all going to be forced cancer MRNA shots. And I said, you know, Joe, these people have been on your show. They seem pretty nice, but a lot of people don't trust him. And so what I actually was saying was the opposite of what Amazing Polly. Like, oh, yeah, you're over these guys. Oh, yeah, they were on his show, so they must be good. And I'm like, did you actually listen to what I said? And no, these people have lost the ability. And this is why we are the best podcast in the universe, is because we don't have video. You kind of have to listen to the show and no one shares audio clips. Let's be honest about it.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, they don't.

[Adam Curry]

No. Why are you going to share not. You can see a waveform bouncing around. No. That's what people want on their. On their TikTok and on YouTube and on Twitter and everywhere. I got to share video. Got to share a video. Unless the video has big captions right on top of the video video. Then people kind of understand what you're saying. But at that point, why are you even watching the video? You're reading the text.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. You are.

[Adam Curry]

So. I don't know. It's.

[John C. Dvorak]

So you got grief.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah. I mean, there's a lot of people who like the thing, but, you know, you can tell the people who listen to it. But it was just surprising to me that people who we respect. Amazing Polly. No. Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

I've always thought she did good work. No surprise. She.

[Adam Curry]

No, no. All I did was lay out what. What is happening and what the strategy is with the US Dollar. And now all of a sudden, I'm pro control grid, so your money is controlled. Like. No, I actually said, here's the. And I said, you know, you can send a billion dollars on Bitcoin to someone else in the world in 10 minutes. Nobody can stop it. And then she. Her response to that is, oh, yeah, I'm for the little man. You're only for the billionaires. I said, it's an exact example. You can send $10. That's crazy. It's crazy. People are.

[John C. Dvorak]

Obviously, she got under your skin with her no interpretation of what you had to say.

[Adam Curry]

No, I'm just sad. I'm sad that people are so spun up, they're ready to pounce. The minute they even hear something that fits with their. Their thinking or bias or whatever you want to call it, they just pounce. And so we have.

[John C. Dvorak]

This contradicts their thinking.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Well, but the thing is, I wasn't contradicting her thinking. She didn't even.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, but it's perceived.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Perceived. Well, no, not even perceived, just confirming that the minute I bring up what might happen or what, you know, what a strategy is, then it's like, I'm all for it. I'm just saying that people are losing their minds. They're losing their minds.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is news to you? There's gambling going on?

[Adam Curry]

Well, I didn't expect people like Amazing Polly to lose loser mind, you know, or, you know, or, you know, other people who hear something we say, like, you know, that guy's been anti war. And Austrian economics has said that's what we are, we're anti war. You couldn't be more pro Austrian economics if you're pro Bitcoin, to be honest about it. But the whole. The whole world has gone crazy. It's a little tiring, it's a little tired.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's gone nuts. It's gone nuts.

[Adam Curry]

It's exactly what's happening. They're going nuts. And so people who listen to the show take their time. Listen while you're washing the dishes, walking the dog, driving in your car, which I think is going to increase now, everybody has to go back to work and you don't have time to be watching videos all day long.

[John C. Dvorak]

Crowded highways.

[Adam Curry]

This is why the no Agenda show is good for you, because it calms you down, because you get a little bit of insight into what is actually being said and not all this breaking, breaking, breaking. Oh, my God, you're on fire. Where?

[John C. Dvorak]

Alert.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, alert. And with that, I want to thank you for your courage. Say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in the quid pro quo, say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only, Mr. John C.

[John C. Dvorak]

Good morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry in the morning to all ships at sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and the dames and the knights out there in the.

[Adam Curry]

Morning, controls, control room, who don't think I'm as smart as I think I am. Let's see, did I, did I. Did I even get a count? I don't think I got a count. The. Is it broken? I don't think it worked. Let me try again. Let me see. There we go. Oh, yeah. Oh, wow. 2607.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, wow.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, wow. 26.

[John C. Dvorak]

Ruby.

[Adam Curry]

2607.

[John C. Dvorak]

Good.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, that's good. That's very good, actually. Isn't that very good? No, that's.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, 24 is normal.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, so we're, it's, it's above average. It's good. It's above average, everybody. It's very good.

[John C. Dvorak]

We had at one time, sometime back we had 4,000. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Well, this is an odd weekend. It's funny, it's a holiday. You and I don't even think about it anymore. I mean, I didn't know it was.

[John C. Dvorak]

I have to be reminded.

[Adam Curry]

I mean, I didn't even know it was President's Day weekend until we had some friends come over last night. We went out to dinner and like, what is. It's busy in town. What is this craziness? There's people parked everywhere just seen the newsletter. I'm like, oh, it's President's Day weekend and it's kind of Valentine's Day weekend. And for us it's just normal. You know, I'm prepping up until 5:00 because we're going out to dinner. It's like normal business for us. And I would like to say regarding the newsletter. Alert, Alert, Alert. Breaking. Breaking. For those of you who use Apple of iPhones, iOS, the, you know, they've done, they've redone their mail. Apple mail client. You wouldn't know about this. I wouldn't know about it, but I learned it from Tina. Very similar to Gmail. Now they automatically separate your email into promotions. So they've got four tabs at the top. So if you haven't seen your newsletter, it may be in a different tab now. And I don't.

[John C. Dvorak]

I should also mention that you brought that Apple up. Apple pay work with stripe. Google Wallet works with stripe.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, really?

[John C. Dvorak]

And so does bitcoin.

[Adam Curry]

Bitcoin works with stripe.

[John C. Dvorak]

Looks. If you look at the, at this, go to the page, the noagendadonations.com and that takes you to the stripe page and you'll see the little bitcoin marker there. I haven't seen anyone get anything through using it.

[Adam Curry]

But let me see.

[John C. Dvorak]

People keep complaining about, oh, you should do this, you should do that, you should do this, you should do that. So we do it. Nothing happens.

[Adam Curry]

I'm looking for the little bit. I don't see the bitcoin thing.

[John C. Dvorak]

Bitcoin thing there.

[Adam Curry]

There's no bitcoin thing. There's. I see an amex. I see. Do I have to click on donate? Would that be it? Let me click on donate. Yeah, I'm clicking on donut Donuts. I'm clicking on donut. Crypto. You can donate. Crypto.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, you have to click on donate.

[Adam Curry]

To get the anything, then you can click on crypto. All right, I'm gonna.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'll test. And if you had. If you were on an iPhone, a little apple iPhone IP thing would crop up, but it probably didn't because you were on your computer.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, of course.

[John C. Dvorak]

Same with the Google wallet.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, sexy. So it's. Now it's even easier to support your no Agenda show. Is that what you're saying?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well, that it's technically easier, but it's going to be harder for the penny pinchers out there that don't you know that like to listen. Won't support the show. I talk a big game.

[Adam Curry]

Never going to support the show.

[John C. Dvorak]

Talk a big game. Oh, you know, I'd do it if you did this, but I was about.

[Adam Curry]

To donate, but then you said, you know, you played a Jared Kushner clip, so you're clearly a boomer Zionist piece of crap. I can't donate now. I don't always agree with you. It's all right. This is the beauty of our show. The beauty of our show is you don't have to, you know, it's. It's called the value for value model. And. And you know, if you. If you get value out of the show, you send a back somehow. If you don't, then you know, you're douchebag. Yeah, we try to make it very easy. You can do that all kinds of different ways. You can support us with time and your talent, which the artists always do. And for the Last Show, Episode 1737, appropriately titled Swastikars, she thought was kind of a genius. A genius title. We got art from Pickle Surprise, and Pickle Surprise won the Valentine's Day art, which. Which now we almost didn't pick Valentine's Day art because John has no love in his life at all, apparently, and was like, oh, no, I don't. I don't know if we should pick Valentine's Day art. Why are we supporting that commercial crap?

[John C. Dvorak]

That's what I said. Why are we supporting this commercial crap? We normally support national holidays. I do say that's true, but there was nothing better than this piece. I mean, the piece was. It wasn't as elaborate as some of the other Valentine's Day pieces, which were really kind of busy, but interesting simplicity. And the execution piece itself. Yeah, it was well done.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. And that was.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now, I have to say I used a piece.

[Adam Curry]

Did you use the brown cheese? We both considered using the brown cheese heart, which, by the way, turns out brown cheese comes from Norway, not from Denmark. Sorry for misgendering your cheese, everybody.

[John C. Dvorak]

I use the. Like a wrecking ball piece by Douglas McCarthy. Cartsy McArtsy.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. With Doge. The Doge Dog on it.

[John C. Dvorak]

The Doge dog.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

I just thought that was a dynamite.

[Adam Curry]

Now, do you know what the. What this wrecking ball refers to? Yeah, yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

All the commentary that.

[Adam Curry]

No.

[John C. Dvorak]

That Doge's the wrecking ball.

[Adam Curry]

No, no, this particular. Sitting on the wrecking ball like that refers to Miley Cyrus.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, Miley Cyrus.

[Adam Curry]

Right.

[John C. Dvorak]

She was under. No, naked on the ball. Oh, yeah.

[Adam Curry]

No. Oh, I'm glad you remembered. Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, we all remember that.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. There were a couple other ones. Let's see. You. You did. Now, I like the straws. Kind of. I like. I kind of like the straws. Although it was a little.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I didn't like that one at all.

[Adam Curry]

No, I like the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Because it didn't look like straws. It just looked like something. I don't know what it was.

[Adam Curry]

We all loved your dream girl. That was a funny one from Darren. Which, of course is your dream girl. That's all you watch all day long is people like that. And by the way, you can follow along and all of the [e-mail] you can contribute. You can be a part of the art contest, which is not just a contest. Everyone loves looking at different pieces of art. By the way, some of these wind [e-mail] on t shirts, hoodies, koozies, hats, you name it. You can even suggest something. Cups. You can suggest it to them. Them and the artists actually get a piece of the action there. We have no deal with no agendashop.com. they just donate from time to time when they feel like it's appropriate. Do you like the more traditional. Which was it? The one of the traditional ones you liked? Well, you kind of like the.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think I like Cupid's Arrow by pickle surprise.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. Yes, you did like Cupid's Arrow pick. Pickle surprise. And some came in late. I think some came in. I didn't see the heart with the straw in it. That came late. Blue Acorn and the Microsoft Party. No one will understand that. But that was everyone's favorite bit of the last show, the Microsoft party. They really loved your story.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well, it's a good.

[Adam Curry]

It's a good story. I mean, it was a good story.

[John C. Dvorak]

Somebody sent a nasty note and saying, yeah, this isn't the party. You're full of crap. This is the party. And then he sent me a link to some party some software company's doing with Ballmer as the keynoter. I'm thinking, this guy's nuts.

[Adam Curry]

Gotta love it. So thank you very much, all artists. We appreciate what you do in our value for value model. And as always, we want to thank everybody who supported us with Treasure. It is a key part of the value. We need to keep this show going for another three years and 10 months.

[John C. Dvorak]

Or somebody said 40 more years.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, good luck with that. And you can do that, of course, by going to noagendadonations.com we'll mention everybody and the amount that they supported us with. $50 and above. But we like to make a special segment here and hand out executive and a associate executive producer credits. Just like Hollywood, where that's all we can really do, Hollywood style. But they are recognized by Hollywood. In fact, Hollywood heavyweights like Dana Brunetti, famous from 50 Shades of Gray and House of Cards. Dana Brunetti, he's produced for this show. He's an associate executive producer and he has created a segment and he gets credits for that. So you can put it in image and if you donate $200 or above, you get an associate executive producer credit. Good for the rest of your life. And we'll read your note. $300 above and executive producer credit. And we read your note. We start off with Topeka from Kansas, which sounds kind of okay. So it probably might be living in Topeka, Kansas. Or is it? Well, you got the wrong thing. Here is Rob, move over a cell.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm sorry, one cell over. You'll be good to go.

[Adam Curry]

Robin Tolbert into Topeka, Kansas. I was like, why would you call yourself Topeka if you're in Kansas? Here it is. Robert says, I started listening in June 2023 and donating by November 2023 because the work is. The worker is worth his wages and you two are absolutely worth the value. This is what I'm talking about. I was within $50 of making damehood and looking for an appropriate number donation. This is 51538. Should have mentioned that. 515-538. Then I read about the Commodore special, which I think this is the last week for the Commodore special.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I'm going to extend it. You're a pushover still, people give up on it.

[Adam Curry]

You're a pushover. I couldn't manage it last time, but I'm flush with cash at the moment. So I asked to be named Commodore R.C. tolbert. God's blessings on you and Getmonation. Thank you, Robin. We appreciate it.

[John C. Dvorak]

So Jay calls me.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hey, what is this? Why are these people asking for Commodore ships? I said we reintroduced it like two newsletters ago.

[Adam Curry]

Does she not read the newsletter?

[John C. Dvorak]

I called her out on it. She didn't read the newsletter. She's not listening to the show, so we can say anything we want about her now.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, really? And she probably even. Probably doesn't even show up because, you know, she's an iPhone user. She wouldn't be caught dead with the green bubble.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, she's not an iPhone user.

[Adam Curry]

Really? Oh, respect, respect.

[John C. Dvorak]

But Brennan, I think, is her husband.

[Adam Curry]

Well, that's. That's disappointing. Very disappointing. Mimi at least listens live sometimes.

[John C. Dvorak]

If live. That's. Unfortunately, she only listens live.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Too much work. Sir Don, by the way, is in Owensboro, Kentucky. He's up next with 5:15, 1938. Sir Donna, the Scandinavian Nancy Nichols. Happy Valentine's Day, Commodore Donald Bartholomew Adam, reach out to Liberty Tree podcast. I'm sorry I read it that way, but that's.

[Adam Curry]

No, that's what it says was says.

[John C. Dvorak]

They would benefit from your value for value guidance. The Liberty Tree podcast could benefit from the value for value guidance. That would be. Means they need a lecture. No jingles, no karma. NSDQ Blue Skies 515 38. I have no idea. You got a Commodore ship. And I don't know what else.

[Adam Curry]

It's very interesting. People will actually email me or CC me on email to a podcaster and say, you know, I'm introducing you to Adam Curry. He has great sound. I'm sure he'll help help you out. Yeah, like, no, like. Okay. Paul Fellner is in Mitchell, South Dakota 51538. That is another Commodore ship. I see no note for Paul. Is there any note?

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't have a note from him either. I don't know what. He's gonna have to come in late.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I'm gonna give him a double up karma then just for good measure.

[News Anchor]

You've got double up karma.

[John C. Dvorak]

I like the fact that everyone who took the Commodore ship and there's three of them today, we'll put an announcement together for all of them later. Not in today's show necessarily, but they all coughed in the. The extra money for the COVID the fees.

[Adam Curry]

That's beautiful. Because it's 500, right? They put in the 15.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. $500 for the Commodore.

[Adam Curry]

Much appreciated, people. Much appreciated.

[John C. Dvorak]

Ronnie Russ in Burns, Tennessee, ITM gents. My buddy Martin Carter hit me in the mouth on November 2018. And he's never donated. Please call him out as a douchebag. Douchebag. I have only recently donated $20 in the past and need a de douching. You've been de douched. And I will mention he came in with $420, so that's a big deduching for him. After this Dave Smith nonsense and another phenomenal appearance on Rogan, I felt compelled to donate. This is a Rogan donation.

[Adam Curry]

Rogan Don Scott Horton donation. I think it's a toss up.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, because Dave Smith was the one.

[Adam Curry]

That was who was angry at me.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's interesting.

[Adam Curry]

It's a combo dough. It's a combo dough.

[John C. Dvorak]

Combo dough.

[Adam Curry]

Combo do.

[John C. Dvorak]

Adam, I know you quit smoking, but I also know that the bong rip is a recorded short jingle. And I've noticed it's been two years and counting since any producers that have asked for the bong rip. Do any producers smoke anymore? So if you please hit the bong for me. And if any producers are in the Nashville Middle Tennessee area, feel free to reach out to me for all your custom carpentry. Oh, a carpenter.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

And he says at. I'm going to read it. 615-593-6132. This is Ronnie Ross, the carpenter.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, a long overdue bong rip. Drew Custer. I'm going to say Kester, but in Holland we'd say Custer, so I'm not sure. He's from Helena, Montana, so Kester probably. Hey, in the morning, gents. Scott Horton don't donation here. John, this is. This is the best promotion we've ever done. This is $350.58.

[John C. Dvorak]

I normally no idea who Scott Horton even was.

[Adam Curry]

You know, when people told me, I remember because he actually was on the no Agenda stream a decade ago, so. But.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, really?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, he's been around for a long time. But I, you know, you caught me off guard after two and a half hours of the podcast and some someone raving, ranting about Trump being the gimp for Netanyahu. And I'm like. And then, and then of course I said throw that in the bin with the View. Which is. Which doesn't mean I equate anyone to the View, but that clip certainly was. Anyway, Scott Horton donation. More of this, please. I normally give $5 a month sustaining donation, which is a pathetically small amount. But I figure, hey, if everyone did that, we could listen to the show coming to us live from Adam's yacht in John's lavish underground bunker. Oh, yeah, that'll be the day first heard of you guys during a Covid anti mask rally, some guy grabbed the microphone and yelled out is this really true? This is amazing. And yelled out everyone should listen to the no Agenda show. Man, I wish I had a clip of that.

[John C. Dvorak]

This wish we had that guy.

[Adam Curry]

This donation comes with a bulletin to all my fellow liberty loving Montanans, please Support House Bill 404, the defund the Guard act. We will be testifying for it at the capitol on the 26th of this month. So let's meet up there and stand against the Pentagon corruption and call your representatives. Please put this donation. Oh this is plus fees333 towards my husband James path to knighthood. You keep track of that and when you're ready we'll credit him. Of course. Love what you do. Thanks. Drew Kester.

[News Anchor]

All right.

[Adam Curry]

Beautiful. Thank you so much.

[John C. Dvorak]

Herbadude in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. 333.33 and he asked for a de douching. You've been de douched to the audience out there. Get yourself a de douching while they last. Yeah, great. To a producer douchebag.

[Adam Curry]

They're running out. They're running out says Herbert dude.

[John C. Dvorak]

P.S. last update to the 2030Club.com was over a decade ago. What gives? Episode 53583 NA 583 Super 20202030 Secure your membership for 34 41amonth for a knighthood for 16 95amonth by 2030. Dvorak.org NA which is probably the jingle he wants to play but yes, there's an old. He found an old. This is so. This is so archaic. It's amazing old website that we went back and forth on email about this and it's still up and Adam I guess posted it originally and it's sitting on aws bucket somewhere and it's still, still working. It's actually got some information on there. It's kind of interesting and it's not.

[Adam Curry]

2030 yet so I don't know the the2030club.com that's right. Thanks.

[John C. Dvorak]

But it's.

[Adam Curry]

It's old. It's old.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes sir walkman dude play devorah.org oh.

[Adam Curry]

Hold on a second. Dvorak.org N A which still does not forward to no agenda donations.com but I'm reliably, reliably informed today is the day. Any minute, any minute now.

[John C. Dvorak]

I got to all do is hit the button.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah it's all it'll take and you'll automatically get a microphone. ITM yesterday was Dame Toonces, the data queen and I's 33rd anniversary and they never had a fight. Obviously I cried. What cried? Donation. So here you go. What do you think he's trying to say? Obviously, comma, cried.

[John C. Dvorak]

He cried. Donation. So here, obviously somebody you know? Donation. I don't know.

[Adam Curry]

To my data Queen. I love you, babe. Annoying each other for 33 years and still going. Jingles. Whole load and dumps.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm going to give you the whole load today. They did dumps. They call them dumps. Big, massive dumps.

[Adam Curry]

Because nothing says I love you like a whole load of big, massive dumps. How beautiful. Ah, you people are so romantic.

[John C. Dvorak]

Bob D. Maple in Golden, Colorado 333.33 ITM not the Kamala biscuit on my birthday. The not Kamala. I'm sorry, the not Kamala Biscuit on my birthday sound is actually from an old web series called Ask a Slave. I told you on YouTube specifically episode three. Now you know. Can I get a trump? I'm gonna come. Followed by due to climate change, please. P.S. birds aren't real.

[Adam Curry]

I'm gonna come Due to climate change. You guys are so odd.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, these guys are.

[Adam Curry]

We are at Basil Veiters in Dordrecht, the Netherlands. Dordrecht, Thor 333.33 ITM John and Adam de Douching in place, please.

[John C. Dvorak]

You've been de douched.

[Adam Curry]

Thank you for all you have done keeping our amygdalas in checks. No in check, no jingles, no karma from Basil Veters from Safe and Bergen in the Netherlands. Thank you, Basil.

[John C. Dvorak]

A semi anonymous vegan in Mill Park, Victoria, Australia. To the best podcasts in the universe. Short time listener started during the woo. First time donor Inita de Douching. You've been de douched. I thought I'd take advantage of the Commodore campaign and send through my 500 Australia. 500 Australian.

[Adam Curry]

Which is valid.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's valid. So it's 314. He would become a Commodore. 314 in Australian. Dollar reduced. Thank you, Adam, for the hyperlocal podcast primer. I've put that information to good use. Keep up the good work and here's to four more years. The semi autonomous. I'm sorry, semi anonymous. Vegan, vegan, vegan, vegan.

[Adam Curry]

VK3ITM Lindsay Christensen is in Santa Fe, New Mexico. $300. Thank you very much. Lindsay says thank you both for all you do. I'm a male. I'm a. My name is Lindsay.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, thank you, Lindsey Graham, Male's name. It's one of those names like Pat.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sir Ross, the boss in Kennewick, Washington, 250. He's the first associate executive producer and he writes. Please put a Ty Rebish on the Or Ty Rebisch, I guess on the birthday list. He turned 22 on February 15th. I hit Ty in the mouth a few years ago, and he's been a dedicated listener ever since. That's good. A happy birthday Ty from Sir Ross, the boss of Broken Ladder Ranch.

[Adam Curry]

Very nice. Craig Cortis, 250. First or second associate executive producer of this list. Dear Adam and John in the morning. This donation should bring me to the requisite amount to join the roundtable. All right. And since there was no location here, but he says, as I live in Abu Dhabi, I would like. Like to be dubbed Shake Craigie bin James Al Cortiz and would like some lugemat or Lugemat. Lugamet. Luge mat. It's a donut hole covered in date syrup, so.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, God.

[Adam Curry]

Luge. What do you think I pronounce it? Lugemat or Luga mat.

[John C. Dvorak]

I have no idea.

[Adam Curry]

I'll say Luga mat.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think lugemac would be the way I'd pronounce it if I was taking a shot at it.

[Adam Curry]

He wants some luga mat and. And camel milk at the banquet table. This is something I. This delicacy I have not tried myself yet. Camel milk.

[John C. Dvorak]

It does neither one sounds that appetizing.

[Adam Curry]

Many thanks to my sheikha Laura, who donated most of the money. She's worth at least 200 camels.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'll bet you that camel milk yogurt is good.

[Adam Curry]

And thanks. You know what? I'll take that bet. Could somebody please send some camel milk yogurt to John? I will bet you. Thanks to you guys for keeping us all sane. I stopped listening to podcasts at 1.5 speed thanks to Adam. Well, there you go. That's why you are indeed very sane.

[John C. Dvorak]

Mike Jansen's in Brussels, Belgium. Oh, it says Brussels that way. It comes out with Brussels.

[Adam Curry]

You say Brussels. Brussels.

[John C. Dvorak]

I say Brussels. Bruges, 228 87. She doesn't listen to the show, but now I feel obliged. Te vagiobene chiara. It's also my birthday, by the way, you're on the list. Love from Brussels.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. All right, Mike. Frank Gravado is in Kenilworth, N.J. 216 17. Adam and John, thanks for keeping us informed. Adam, great job on Rogan Rogan donation. Wishing my son James a happy birthday. Could we get lots, lots of karma and a birthday biscuit. Well, yes, you can get both. Not a problem. And let me see. John, did you ever find the driver defense guy from Oakland?

[John C. Dvorak]

The driver defense guy from Oakland? Wow.

[Adam Curry]

No, we'll take.

[John C. Dvorak]

I have a pretty good memory, but I have no idea what he's talking about.

[News Anchor]

They always give me a biscuit on my birthday. You've got karma, Frank.

[John C. Dvorak]

Send me a note. Frank. Eli, the coffee guy's up. He's in Bensonville, Illinois. Adam is jacked up on coffee as we speak. 20216 Adam. Yes, you're obviously right during your interview on Rogan. America needs to return to the principles set forth in the monument to the forefathers, faith, morality, law, education and liberty. If the revelations of Doge prove anything, it's that our government has strayed far from the founding ideals. Regardless of the new season of the America, the TV show is entertaining thanks to Trump and Elon. And Elon Jingles Obama. Yo, Elon Trump. Wait, wait, wait. Jingles Obama.

[Adam Curry]

He's confused. He means Neil Degrasse Tyson saying oh, Elon. That's what he said.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, that's what he means.

[Adam Curry]

There is no Olan eating the dogs.

[John C. Dvorak]

You got eating the dogs. Don't be a dick. We don't have that.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, we do. We do. We do. Actually, we do.

[John C. Dvorak]

We do now.

[Adam Curry]

We do now.

[John C. Dvorak]

Producers in need of delicious fresh roasted coffee visit gigawatt coffee roasters.com and use the code ITM for 20% off your first order. Stay caffeinated, says Eli the coffee guy.

[Adam Curry]

You keep doing it. It's ITM 20. You keep.

[John C. Dvorak]

What did I do?

[Adam Curry]

Keep saying ITM for 20% off your first order. Is ITM 20, huh? Yeah. I don't know why I have a block. You do. You have a block.

[John C. Dvorak]

Elon, they're eating the dog. Don't be a dick.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, there you go. That's a. That's going to be a favorite. That's going to be a favorite now. Incognito. Plymouth, Michigan 200. Adam, head over to my blog link below. Oh, I know who this is. It's Incognito. He is from anil ria.com enil ria.com it's airline backwards. I posted about rumors of a Southwest Airlines and jetpack blue tie up. I don't think it's a merger as too many people are whispering. Probably interline as in joint boarding passes and bag transfer or code share. If Southwest it can get their heads out of 1979. Of course it could all collapse if Southwest it says no, they can't do any of it. It also requires Southwest pilot approval, which is a maybe. We have a lot of Southwest pilots. Give us the dirt boys and girls. Southwest barely exists north of Baltimore and that's where JetBlue is big. There's talk Trump will be laiss fair on airline mergers, but there were none on his prior watch. I donated $200 this week. Just mention Enil Ria. It's so difficult. It's airline backwards enelria.com but my blog is freemium freemium. He's got a freemium blog and Patreon just allowed comping. So tell me if you want a comp account. Yes, I actually I clicked the link, I got a comp account and I appreciate it. I get about an email every 5 minutes from your blog so you're about to get your own email box just so I can look at it later. Thank you very much brother. He's actually given us a lot of good airline dirt in the past. He's a very good resource and decided to add some treasure to his time and talent this time around.

[John C. Dvorak]

So we wrap it up with Linda Lupatkin, our buddy in Lakewood, Colorado who writes Job Karma. She wants and says for a winning resume and faster job search go to ImageMakers Inc.com that's ImageMakers Inc. With a K. And work with Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs and Writer of Resumes. Your go to for all your executive resume and job search needs. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.

[Adam Curry]

Beautiful list today everybody. Thank you so much for the treasure you've supported us with. All of you are now eligible for IMDb.com account. Some of you may already have one. You can add this one to your list of accomplishments as Executive Producer or Associate Executive producer of episode 1739 of the Best Podcast in the Universe. We'll be thanking everybody who came in $50 and above. And of course if you go to noagendadonations.com you can set up a recurring donation. Any amount, any frequency. That always helps us in the slower days. Value for value. Noagendadonations.com thanks. Thank you for your never ending support.

[News Anchor]

Our formula is this.

[John C. Dvorak]

We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Don't be a dick.

[News Anchor]

Shut up slave.

[Adam Curry]

Hey, did you hear about the new non addictive painkiller the FDA approved right before RFK Jr. Came in?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, but I'm sure it's addictive.

[Adam Curry]

It's funny you say that Journey was.

[News Anchor]

Just approved by the fda. It's an alternative to opioids because makers say it's not addictive. Family doctor Nita Bajora is joining us now. She's from Oakview Medical Association.

[Adam Curry]

I just want to mention this doctor is decked out. Brand new lab coat. Fresh. Fresh out of the, out of the PR wardrobe closet. She's got her stethoscope on, which is all. It's, it's bejeweled. What do you call it? Bedazzled. She's, she's, she's got a name tag. She got stuff all like, like, almost like metals. She's just completely decked out.

[News Anchor]

Oh, she. It's here in Greenville. Thanks for joining us today. Thank you for having me.

[Adam Curry]

By the way, wasn't it Greenville? Didn't we hear from someone that Greenville is where they test all these, like, new food and new medications? Remember that?

[John C. Dvorak]

But there are places around the country where they test it.

[Adam Curry]

I think it was Greenville. Yeah.

[News Anchor]

Dora is joining us now. She's from Oak View Associates here in Greenville. Thanks for joining us today. Thank you for having me. How does it work? So it's brand new. It inhibits the receptor for. There's a specific receptor in the pain pathway that it inhibits and thereby lowers the pain signal for the patient. So it's used mainly for acute pain. Would you say it's just as effective as an ibuprofen or, like, how does it compare to other pain medications? I think in the studies they compared it to placebo and hydrocodone a acetaminophen, which is kind of one of the traditional pain medications. And they found that it was more efficacious and pretty good in relieving acute pain.

[Adam Curry]

More efficacious than placebo. Okay.

[News Anchor]

Okay. So it works. I mean, I think that's what people really want to do.

[Adam Curry]

That's what people really want to hear. It works. It works.

[News Anchor]

Acute pain. Okay, so it works. I mean, I think that's what people really want to know.

[Adam Curry]

Are there any side effects?

[News Anchor]

We need to know about side effects as, as with others. I mean, I think the concern is because it's not an opioid, is it going to also cause addictive or dependence potential and that. Let's see. As the clinicians start using it more and more, we need real life data. What to help us with that. But supposed to be pretty well tolerated. We'll just see how it pans out.

[Adam Curry]

Wait a minute.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wait a minute.

[Adam Curry]

The FDA has approved this? But we. How many people did you test?

[News Anchor]

Yeah, I think I read it up on the studies and it said it was tested on a couple hundred people, but again, you really need it to be given to millions of people.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah. Give it to everybody. We'll find out later.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Lab rats. That's what you are, people. Lab rats.

[News Anchor]

What any side effects could be. That's right. Because, you know, we have patients with many multiple chronic conditions. And so when we introduce a medication, we're always monitoring and educating our patients. So safety comes first.

[Adam Curry]

Safety comes first. By testing it on you.

[News Anchor]

Comes first. All right. Well, we look forward to seeing how it feels effective. It is. And having another option besides opioids. Absolutely. I think, hopefully we're excited about it. So. Thank you, Dr. Bajor.

[Adam Curry]

We're excited about it. This RFK Jr. Stop this immediately. That is not okay. That is not okay. I have a couple of truth wants to come out. Very short clip. We start with the mayor of Philadelphia. You recall, she is well known for her.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, she. She's just. Yeah, she can't talk.

[Adam Curry]

She can't catch a break.

[News Anchor]

Reminded us all through their excellence that nothing is possible. When we work together as a team.

[John C. Dvorak]

Nothing is possible.

[Adam Curry]

When we work together, nothing is possible. And then we have Congress. Congress. Congresswoman Ayanna Pressley.

[News Anchor]

We are all willing to work with anyone who's serious about doing the work of censoring the American people and advancing progress.

[Adam Curry]

Okay. Censoring the American people and advancing progress.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, that makes sense.

[Adam Curry]

It's amazing. These people just say what they really mean. What did. What did she even intend to say? What. What word did she mean instead of censoring?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, you know, I heard that. That clip's. And I almost had it for the show, and I was trying to decode it, too, and I couldn't come up with anything.

[Adam Curry]

I have no idea what she might have been thinking. Censoring the American people. I can't.

[John C. Dvorak]

It doesn't. I don't know. Same reaction. You have somebody out in the. Somebody in the troll room should know. Should be able to. It just takes a breakthrough in thinking to get them.

[Adam Curry]

No, she's just trying to say. They just says she's.

[John C. Dvorak]

They're flaying her.

[Adam Curry]

She's an npc. They've got no other explanation. She wasn't supposed to. It could be she wasn't supposed to speak. New details on the unfortunate crash between the Blackhawk helicopter. Blackhawk helicopter copter and the regional jet. Although this report kind of made me mad, the way they characterized it. And I also don't know if this is actually what happened or this is the, the full reason for. But there are, there are two reasons that we're hearing now.

[John C. Dvorak]

One is I didn't want to get any of this, but since you brought it up, I. After you play the clip, I do have a question. Just kind of a rhetorical question.

[Adam Curry]

All right, good. You can ask the questions and the pilot will answer.

[News Anchor]

This particular flight was a check ride for the pilot flying the Blackhawk. Generally, a check ride is a practical exam that a pilot must pass to be qualified to perform specific air crew or mission duties. The army does three types of check rides.

[Adam Curry]

By the way, you'll HEAR the term CVR, I.e.

[News Anchor]

Cockpit, voice recorder, instrument, annual and night vision goggles. The helicopter crew was likely wearing night vision goggles throughout the flight. The NTSB says the helicopter pilot had an altitude discrepancy and weren't aware of how high they were. This video shows the helicopter crashing into the passenger jet around 8:45, January 29th. The American Airlines flight from Wichita, Kansas was cleared for landing after a last minute but routine Runway change. Audio from air traffic control reveals the military pilot acknowledged he saw the jet approaching the Runway today. Investigators revealing a potential technical glitch. 7, 17 seconds before impact, a radio transmission from the tower was audible on both CVRs directing the Blackhawk to pass behind the CRJ. The portion of the transmission that stated pass behind the may not have been received by the Blackhawk crew. Transmission was stepped on by a 0.8 second mic key from the Blackhawk. And NTSB investigators say the preliminary report could take up to 30 days, but the full report could take up to a year before it's released.

[Adam Curry]

So the only thing, before you ask your question, the only thing that really makes me mad is it was not a glitch. When you key up the mic, then you don't hear anything but yourself speaking. So they may have keyed up and stepped on the transmission, but that's not a glitch. That's just unfortunate. And at 0.8 second, that's like someone just clicked on and then heard. Probably heard that there was a message coming in and then let go right away. The appropriate response would have been say again. But that didn't happen. Your question?

[John C. Dvorak]

Couple of things. One, why are these communication systems half duplex? What specific. In this day and age, what specific reason are they half duplex? Because if they were full duplex, it wouldn't matter were you keyed up or not.

[Adam Curry]

Well, it's legacy. There's also a separate issue. Distance is Another. So I believe the military uses amplitude modulation and everyone else uses frequency modulation. Am, fm, they also use different bands, which by itself is a problem because they don't. The aircraft don't hear each other, but they both hear what the tower says, because the power the tower broadcasts on both frequencies, it's legacy. It's pure legacy. And full duplex would require digital, I think. I don't think you.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, it wouldn't.

[Adam Curry]

Well, you'd be sending and receiving. You'd be sending on one frequency, you.

[John C. Dvorak]

Don'T have to be receiving on the other. There's offsets. It's like going to a repeater. There's lots of ways of doing it, but it's beside. But the question is, legacy is not an excuse for this kind of technology to have duplexes. Are you kidding me?

[Adam Curry]

Hold on a second. Repeaters aren't, aren't. If you're talking on a repeater, you're not able to have someone else speak at the same time.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, well, let's just ignore what I said there. The point is that there's no reason in the world you can't have full duplex communication in this day and age.

[Adam Curry]

I think there is. I don't think it's very.

[John C. Dvorak]

I can talk on the phone as full duplex. An old fashioned telephone with a carbon microphone.

[News Anchor]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Well, if you want to have a very long string attached to your aircraft, that would work.

[John C. Dvorak]

I can do it with a wireless phone. If I'm on a wireless phone or if I'm on a cell phone. I can hear you talking and I'm. Well, I'm talking. How's that different? I don't know why you're defending this.

[Adam Curry]

I'm defending it because I don't think it's technically feasible. When you have a duplex phone call, you have a full time connection. So you can't have everybody having a full time connection. Technically, I don't think it's that feasible, John. I really don't. I mean, I understand.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'd like to hear from somebody out there as a radio expert, even though you're a general. Yes, I think it is feasible. And I don't understand why they have this. This whole idea that the thing clicked on for an eighth of a second.

[Adam Curry]

When. When did you have a HAM radio conversation that was full duplex, that wasn't digital? Never.

[John C. Dvorak]

I've had plenty of conversations on a telephone.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, but it.

[John C. Dvorak]

And I'm not hearing anybody else's phone. They're all separate. They're all on separate Channels. They're all doing it using the cell system. I don't see how. This can't be done with airplanes.

[Adam Curry]

One call at a time. You can't have 20 calls open with everybody at the same time. How many transmitters do you, you want.

[John C. Dvorak]

If some, if the tower is transmitting, I think it should go to. It does go to everybody if they're, if they're not keyed up.

[Adam Curry]

Well, you're now the new FAA administrator because you're asking for something which I don't think is technically feasible in the setting of aviation.

[John C. Dvorak]

I would like to hear from others. It just doesn't make sense to me that we're. This is the technology that's so old it's ludicrous. And you yourself defended it as legacy, which indicates it's old, it's functional.

[Adam Curry]

The legacy part is really the am. AM versus FM for distance upgrade. I just don't. I mean. All right, well, we have plenty of smart people who can tell us how it would be possible. I don't think it's possible in a multi station setting. You can have a full duplex with one person, but you can't have a full duplex with 10 planes. I just don't see how that. Then you're all. No, I don't see that working. What is your other question?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, the other question was it seems to me that the whole thing is because of the bad altimeter.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

You don't like to emphasize that. Who is the manufacturer?

[Adam Curry]

No, no, no, no. That's, that's, that's not how it works. The, when you are flying in airspace, the tower. Oh, actually there's a. You can tune to the atis. So there's a special frequency you can listen to the, the current weather conditions at the airfield and they will give you a altitude pressure number. Standard is 29.9. And so if the air, if the pressure is higher or lower, then you'll have maybe it'll be 30.1 or 30.2 and that. And that's the only way you can determine your altitude. From my understanding, they both, they had two different altitude indications, which means they both either didn't listen to the, to the current setting or the current broadcast of the current barometric pressure was wrong. But that doesn't make a lot of sense for the. It's. It's a big cock up is what it is.

[John C. Dvorak]

And here's another one. Why are we having military training exercises in and around. Around the most busy airport in the world?

[Adam Curry]

Well, that I can't answer. I don't think it's a good idea either, other than that they were flying a continuity of government mission, which would be, which would require this. And then there's also the night vision goggles, which I think reduces your field of view from like 75% with your peripheral vision to 40. But you know, we may never know. That's what they said. We won't know for another year at least, and then we will all have forgotten about it as it usually goes. And we may never actually get the full details because the military doesn't like to talk about it.

[John C. Dvorak]

So Africa News, you got to do this once in a while.

[Adam Curry]

What Africa News.

[News Anchor]

African leaders are meeting in Ethiopia this weekend for their annual summit. With conflicts in the Democratic Republic of Congo and Sudan topping the agenda, heavy fighting continues in both countries. In the drc, rebels have seized another strategic city in the east. Emmanuel Agunza reports from Nairobi. African leaders arrived in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia, As Rwanda backed M23 rebels have seized Bukavu, the second largest city in eastern Democratic Republic of Congo. At amid heavy fighting with the Congolese army. In Sudan, the national army continues to gain ground against the paramilitary Rapid Support Forces, with both sides refusing peace talks. UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres, who is at the African Union Summit, has urged leaders to propose solutions to conflicts that have displaced millions. Several side meetings will discuss US President Trump's freeze on foreign aid, which has severely impacted American funded programs, programs for health, water and agriculture across the continent. For NPR News, I'm Emmanuel Igunza in Nairobi.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, I have a real problem with npr. I mean, they have no, no problem whatsoever using a British guy. You are talking like this for something that's going on in America about our own news. But then the minute it's about Africa, they have to bring an African guy.

[John C. Dvorak]

In who can you barely understand.

[Adam Curry]

It just isn't compelling to listen to. It's badass Africa news. Ban Bad Africa news.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's what it's being called from now on.

[Adam Curry]

It may. I don't understand why they do it. I just don't understand. It's so wrong. It's wrong. It's very wrong.

[John C. Dvorak]

I have one more tik tok I can play. This is a woman who looks like a pig. She's got the red hair and she's got just. I hate to be insulting.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, a little.

[John C. Dvorak]

But she does look like a pig. And Sorry. Well, she now she's gonna. And she's hates mega.

[News Anchor]

If you're out here celebrating Elon Musk and his supposed finding Fraud. Which he's not. I better not see you at a national park this summer. I better not see you at any federal preserve or national monument or national park if you wear one of those red hats.

[Adam Curry]

Cats.

[News Anchor]

Get out. Get out. You know what they say. The outdoors are for everyone. It's not for you, babe. It's not for you if you are a MAGA fan. The outdoors are not for you and national parks are not for you. Why? Because they just fired all.

[Adam Curry]

She did it. Hypophora you. I can't believe you didn't catch.

[News Anchor]

It's not for you if you are a MAGA fan. The outdoors are not for you and national parks are not for you. Why? Because they just fired all probationary workers. Workers from the U.S. forest Service. Good luck getting any bathrooms cleaned this summer. Good luck having rangers for programs. Good luck doing anything for our national parks. Because you just decided that that was fraud and that wasn't needed. Even though things like USAID are 1% of the budget because you don't know how to do research and you're so busy sucking up to billionaires and watching our federal lands be opened up for oil drilling and for exploration when they should be pretty protected, you think that they're going to do anything to protect the environment. They absolutely are not. Because you are so far up a billionaire that you have no idea what's going on. So here's the thing. If I see your camper or your ginormous truck at a campground this summer, at a national park campground bestie, I might be confronting you. I hope I don't see your red hat anywhere on the trails because you don't deserve it. The outdoors are. Aren't for you. Stay inside.

[John C. Dvorak]

What is the point of these threats? What's wrong with these people? Well, and by the way, what is that called again when you say why there's a phrase you use?

[Adam Curry]

Hypophora.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hypo. Hypo.

[Adam Curry]

Hypo. Fora. With a ph. Hypophora. Hypophora. Why? Because that's the name.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think it's a good show title. Is the reason I asked for it is.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, it's a very reasonable, reasonable show title. Well, on the. Just on the Doge front and I don't know this is true, we have a lot of producers in the Virginia and Maryland and D.C. area. I keep seeing these real estate app maps that are being posted with every home is for sale and all these new listings. Is that true? Is my question then? Is that exceptional for all of these homes to Be for sale. Sale. Suddenly I would like to know from our. And are any of you guys selling your home? That would be another question. The second thing is I thought this was quite interesting. I know you saw it as well about the 150 year old Social Security recipient, which can mean several things. It could be someone who's receiving on behalf. And there's a lot of, lot of different things that could be. But I like this one the most. And I think I got this on X. I'm a coder. Experienced coders. No cobol. No, no. No coders with experience in cobol. No cobol. Right. You're being a little, A little douchey here.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, you might as well throw FORTRAN in while you're at it.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, young coders don't. Okay, young coders. You know, people. It's a legacy code. When the Musk. When the Musk claims Social Security is paying thousands of 150 year olds, I think someone should let him know that, that in Cobol, if a date is missing, the program defaults to 1875, which is apparently when these COBOL programmers were born. So if you have 2025 -1875, it's 150 lol, you idiots. Interesting. We have a lot of COBOL people who listen to the show. I'd love to hear about that. And of course, I don't think any Social Security date field should be empty to start with. If your birth year is not in there. That doesn't make sense to me either.

[John C. Dvorak]

But actually the Social Security number will trace back to your birth date.

[Adam Curry]

How do you. How do you figure that?

[John C. Dvorak]

Every number is recorded and the birth date is. To get your Social Security card, you have to put your birth date down and it's.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah, encoded in the number. But how.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, there's a linkage. Pretty sure.

[Adam Curry]

Tell me, can you decode your birth date from the Social Security number?

[John C. Dvorak]

I've always believed you could, but I don't know that you can.

[Adam Curry]

Hmm, that's interesting.

[John C. Dvorak]

What's your Social Security number?

[Adam Curry]

Hey, why don't you blow me?

[John C. Dvorak]

And by the way, this, this thing about. Oh, they got this. Oh, and Musk and all your social. I could find your Social Security number out if I really wanted to. It's out there.

[Adam Curry]

All right. You find my social. Social Security number.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

I of course, will confirm it with you if correct.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, I'll dig around.

[Adam Curry]

I mean, you already know where I live. You got a map. My home with a picture, you know, and that's all out there. Thanks. To you. Thanks to you, I have gotten some nice gifts. I'll. I'll be. I'll admit.

[John C. Dvorak]

You got some gifts. Yeah, I didn't get anything.

[Adam Curry]

Sorry. I got your. Your home address off the Internet, but here's a gift. So now every package, every box that comes, if it doesn't say Amazon on it, I let Phoebe sniff it first and then I poke it with a stick. I'm not going to open anything that you send to me. I got to get some kid in the neighborhood to open my packages.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hey, kid, now you're talking.

[Adam Curry]

Give me five bucks. This is the funniest Doge thing I've heard of. It's up in your neck of the woods. Get a load of this. San Francisco city officials are confirming three guys claiming to be from the Department of Government Efficiency, or doge, tried to enter their offices today and get info. They were dressed in DOGE shirts, wore the red MAGA hats. According to the sheriff's office, they went into these offices at City hall around noon today and demanded employees turn over digital information. The employees refused, called the sheriff's office, but these men left before deputies got there. The sheriff's office doesn't think these people were actually representatives from doge. President Trump created DOGE when he took office in January, and he has put Elon Musk in charge of that. I think it's great.

[John C. Dvorak]

I like the idea. That's pretty, pretty clever.

[Adam Curry]

Now, in a different report, I heard they had Elon Musk. Elon Musk masks on, which is, you know, would kind of be a giveaway. Giveaway, I think. But I like, I would say even the MAGA hat. I mean, can we get, like, a Doge badge? Maybe that's something. Is there a Doge badge?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, it's not the way they're doing it, but okay. Busting in like that, they already. They're in there. They're already working there.

[Adam Curry]

I'm from the Doge. I'm here to check your records.

[John C. Dvorak]

I have two clips from NPR that, that I've been sitting on for a while because I have a complaint.

[Adam Curry]

They're must be warm.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is the polar bear de icing story that showed up first I heard on NTD like, a month ago, and then it showed up on NPR a couple weeks ago.

[News Anchor]

Polar bears spend their days jumping from ice into water.

[Reporter]

So if they get all wet, why.

[News Anchor]

Doesn'T their fur freeze?

[John C. Dvorak]

NPR science correspondent Jonathan Lambert reports on a new study in the journal Science Advances. Nanophysicist Bodle Holst got interested in Studying polar bear fur while watching a German quiz show.

[News Anchor]

In that quiz show, I learned that polar bears are invisible in infrared cameras.

[John C. Dvorak]

That essentially means that they're so well insulated that their fur takes on the temperature of their frigid surroundings. That's the case on land. And when they jump into icy water to hunt.

[News Anchor]

Because I had been working with anti icing, I just suddenly was very puzzled because I was thinking, well, how do they manage that when into the water they go out again, why do they not get covered in ice?

[John C. Dvorak]

Meaning they stay cold, but their fur is largely free of ice. Holst, who's at the University of Bergen in Norway, initially thought that the structure of the fur itself might have some kind of de icing properties. So her team used a high powered microscope and zoomed in on some fur.

[News Anchor]

But we couldn't see anything special about the polar bear hairs. They just looked normal.

[John C. Dvorak]

But as she and her colleagues were handling the fur, they noticed, noticed that it was really greasy.

[Adam Curry]

And when they washed the fur with.

[John C. Dvorak]

Soap, wet it and froze it, it got icy.

[News Anchor]

And so we realized that this was down to polar bear hair grease, effectively.

[John C. Dvorak]

Molecular analysis of the hair grease revealed that it was chock full of certain compounds which are resistant to ice. And the fur lacked a compound called squalene, which is found in other marine mammals. Squalene, it turns out, has properties that make I stick to it.

[Adam Curry]

Well, this is riveting. I'm glad you sat on this.

[John C. Dvorak]

Here's my question. These polar bears have been around forever, and we're just discovering in 2025 that they have some sort of goop that goes into the fur and makes it so that it doesn't freeze and has de icing properties. It took the year 2025 to figure this out. And meanwhile, we can predict climate change. Are you kidding me?

[Adam Curry]

I'm with you on that, but that, of course, is. It kind of ruins the whole climate change, climate change, polar bear deal. Well, that too, because, you know, it's. Oh, the poor polar bear, he's standing on a, on a rock of ice. Oh, he has to swim.

[John C. Dvorak]

I just found this in an insulting piece. Even though you thought it was boring, I really got worked up about it because of this 2025, we're now discovering that polar bear grease, it's got some de icing properties. And it took us this long to figure this out. And we've been around polar bears for a long time. This is unbelievable to me.

[Adam Curry]

Objection. I never said it was boring.

[John C. Dvorak]

But the second part wraps it up. But it's not important.

[News Anchor]

We can say that this is what makes polar bear hair greasy so efficient.

[John C. Dvorak]

In fact, the team found that the squalene free fur grease performed about as well as certain kinds of pfas, chemicals that have been used in ski waxes. Holst hopes that her research could eventually lead to things like greener ski waxes, lubricants, and even new de icing fluid for airplanes. All inspired by greasy polar bear fur.

[Adam Curry]

This is great. This is perfect. We need to kill more polar bears to de ice our aircraft. I'm all in.

[John C. Dvorak]

You don't have to kill the polar bears. The chemical structures, that's what they uncovered. And they could just make the stuff from at a refinery.

[Adam Curry]

Squalene is that same as squalene.

[John C. Dvorak]

Squalene free. Squalene free.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, Squalene free. Oh. You know what? I'm. I'm outraged with you as well. I think it's crazy. How come we have we been afraid? Polar bears, by the way, Pretty dangerous. You know, they're not. Also they're not as cute as they look.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, they're nasty creatures. But we do shoot them once in a while and you can get the fur and you could do whatever you want with it. But this seems to me ridiculous that in the year 2025 they finally discover that polar bears fur doesn't freeze up like a mustache does on some dude.

[Adam Curry]

I had a perfect out, but it just never works. You know why? Because we're not full duplex. That is the problem. I'm going to show my support by.

[John C. Dvorak]

Donating to no Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that.

[News Anchor]

Oh yeah, that'd be fab.

[Adam Curry]

If only a clean feed would do. Full duplex, we'd be. Everything would be solved. We have tip of the day and some good end of show mixes on the way. Of course, something cool coming up on the no Agenda stream. But first we want to thank Everybody who supported us. $50 and above.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, we do. Sir Adam starts us off. He's in Derby in UK 140 81. He says it's a title change. He's not going to be a baronet. To Sir Adam, baronet of Tamriel. Here's some jobs. Karma will give you that at the end. Nick McNeil, 133. And he's got a birthday call out. He was a man overboard. He says your soothing voices now help me fall back asleep at night.

[Adam Curry]

Beautiful.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know about that. Lucas Williams in Roswell, New Mexico. $100. Sir Wags in Havre de Grace DeGrasse, Maryland.

[Adam Curry]

Havre de Grasse.

[John C. Dvorak]

Havre de Grasse.

[Adam Curry]

Pretty sure it's grass. Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

100. Brian McIver in Portage, Michigan. 8008. Boobs donation. Calling out everyone at the lake whose bachelor party is douchebags except Jake. Douchebag. Jake Hoose is okay. Kevin McLaughlin, 8008. He's the Archduke of Luna. Lover of American. Lover of boobs. Renegade 6 in Caldwell, Texas. 7900 3. Paul Cassel, Castle Cassel in Kerrville, Kerrville, Texas. 75. Dame Rita in Sparks, Nevada. There she is again. 67. Thanks for all you do, she says. James Edmondson in south Plainfield, New Jersey. 5510. Pete Federici in Bothell, Washington. 55. You want some housing? Karma. Give you some karma at the end there. Organic Hemp society in Venice, California. 5333. A 13.33% discount code. Use curry. 33. Gordon Freeman in Munchen, Deutschland. Gordon has a long note. Why don't you take a look at it? 5272.

[Adam Curry]

Well, he says it's a Rogan. Don sincerely congratulate you on your latest performance on the jre. It was as entertaining as usual. And then he scolds me. Please deal with your oral fixation and drop the vape. It looks ridiculous. The only acceptable, acceptable demographic to be vaping are white teenage girls.

[John C. Dvorak]

Huh? All right, so you're vaping on the whole show.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, of course I vape during this show. I vape all the time. I'm a vaping fool. I'm a vaping fool.

[John C. Dvorak]

Douglas mook in Cochranton, Pennsylvania. 52. 25. Kevin Dills. Hey, there he is in Huntersville, North Carolina. 50. Oh, these are all 50s. We're already there. This is a very short list here, too. Kevin Dills in Huntersville. Diane Schwanebeck in Johnsburg, Illinois. Chris Lewinsky in Sherwood Park, Alberta. Easy Landscapes in North Stonington, Connecticut. Michael Perrott in Salem, Oregon. Philip Ballou in Louisville, Kentucky. Raleigh Hawk in Anna, Illinois. There's a switcheroo for my daughter. Accounting below, please. Dame Madeline Hawk as Maddie Hawk. Dame Matabug of Southern Shillinoise. That's a good name. She would like grilled cheese and tomato soup at the Round table. You gonna put that on there?

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah, I already ordered it. It's there.

[John C. Dvorak]

Good old up there in.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, sir.

[John C. Dvorak]

Alan Barron, actually, yes. 50. Asti chops and Heathcote, New South Wales, Australia. I don't think STRI doesn't stand up with no agenda.

[Adam Curry]

No, no, no. You Got it. He's from New South Wales. Don't think STRI doesn't stand up with no agenda. Straya. Straya, Australia.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, Australia.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Darrell Harris in Fielding, Utah. 50. And he says it's been fun to see the transformation that's been taking place with Adam.

[Adam Curry]

I'm transitioning.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, you've always wanted to be trans. And that's it. That's our list. It's very short for show 1739. And that was it.

[Adam Curry]

Thank you all very much. And of course, we thank everybody who came in under $50 for reasons of anonymous anonymity or you're on Those sustaining donations. Noagendadonations.com Any amount, any frequency, you choose it, you do it. It's all value for value. And again, thank you to our executive and associate executive producers who we thanked earlier. Those credits are yours for a lifetime. Jobs, karma, as requested.

[John C. Dvorak]

Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.

[Adam Curry]

Let's vote. Let's vote for jobs.

[News Anchor]

You've got karma.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. There it is once again. Again. Noagendadonations.com support the show noagendadonations.com Jackie Connelly turned 62 or turned 62 yesterday. Oh, there we go. Sir Ross the boss wishes Ty Ryk Ryback, a very happy one. Turned 22 yesterday. Nick McNeil celebrates tomorrow. Mike James Hansen's will be celebrating probably today. And Frank Gravado says happy birthday to his son James. He is turning 8 years old. Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. Well, it's been a while since we've had a title change. Always happy to do that. Due to an additional $1,000 in support to the best podcast in the universe. Sir Adam now becomes Sir Adam, Baronet of Tam Real, and we congratulate him with that. Then we have four commodores we need to congratulate on the Commodore ships. We have Commodore R.C. tolbert, Commodore Donald Donald Barthlow, Commodore Paul Fellner and Commodore Semi Anonymous Vegan Commodore's arriving. Thank you all very much. Now we have one knight and one dame to bring up onto the podium. We have the round table all set. Ow, I dropped it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Less sharp blade.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, that's yours. Let me pick mine up. That. Oh, I almost cut myself with that. Please come to the podium. Craig Cortese and Madeline Hawk, both of you are about to join the very exclusive club of no agenda knights and dames. I'm proud to pronounce the Kate the as Maddy Hawk, Dame Maddy Bug of Southern Shilano and Shake Craggy Bin. James Al Cortis for you. As requested, we have hookers and blow rent boys and Chardonnay. Also Lugamat and camel milk, grilled cheese and tomato soup. They go well together. Of course along with that gase and sake, vodka, vanilla bung hits, Suburban sparkly Cider and escort, Ginger ale and gerbils, Breast milk and Pablo men as always. We've got the mutton and we've got the mead here for you. Head over to noagendaring.com take a look at those beautiful. That beautiful ring. It's a signet ring so you can hit someone in the mouth and it will leave a mark. Or you can use the wax that we supply with it. It's sealing wax so you can seal your important correspondence with it. And of course it comes with a certificate of authenticity. Please send us the address where you'd like these ring to go to along with with your ring size. There is a ring sizing guide atnoagender rings.com. thank you again for your undying support and welcome once again to the round table. Always like a party, everybody. We have a meetup taking place today. It's at Margaritas. Keen as keen, New Hampshire. It's the too many eggs. Meetup is number 10. They have. I guess they still have too many eggs Again.

[John C. Dvorak]

Do a dozen.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, that'll be a big one. The 12th. That's right. On Thursday, our next show day. The 29 days until spring meetup. That'll be at 6:30 at Lincoln's Roadhouse in Denver, Colorado. Charlotte's thirsty. Third Thursday. It's always the same on the third Thursday of the month. That'll be on the 20th.

[John C. Dvorak]

7:00. 29 days before spring.

[Adam Curry]

I guess so. It was 33 degrees this morning. It in Fredericksburg. I'm not kidding.

[John C. Dvorak]

You have the weirdest weather.

[Adam Curry]

Someone said it's like the Powerball numbers, you know, it's like 2385. It goes up and down. Okay, let me see. Yeah, that's at Ed Tavern. Charlotte, North Carolina. Coming up on the 21st, Portland, Oregon. Columbia River Basin. That's in Washington. On the 22nd, Mount Laurel Township, New Jersey. Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. Arlington, Virginia. Hey people, you still live there? Is your house for sale? Orlando on the 23rd. Indianapolis on the 23rd. San Francisco on the 28th. San Francisco. I wonder if you want to go to that john. San Francisco, it's your backyard.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm not sure.

[Adam Curry]

It may by. Who knows, it may be underwater by then. Keyport, New Jersey on March 2nd. Oh man, we're into March already. And OH, the Netherlands, March 29 SAFENEM and OH CULUMBERG on May 29 in Gelderland, the Netherlands. So many meetups to go to. So many meetups to attend. All you have to go is to one. It's kind of like eating potato chips. You will never want to stop going to a meetup. Connection is protection. You can find these first responders in an emergency as your no agenda fellow [e-mail] go there to find one near you. If you can't find one, start yourself. It's easy. I'm telling you. You won't be triggered on hell. Like a party. Like a party. All right, this is the moment in the show. We determine which ISO we're going to play at the very end of the show. And I see you have three. Three. Why don't you go first today?

[John C. Dvorak]

How many do you have?

[Adam Curry]

I have two, but it doesn't matter. I always, always go first. It's time for you.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Then go first again.

[Adam Curry]

No, I want you to go first.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's a tradition.

[News Anchor]

Up his butt. Nice.

[John C. Dvorak]

Who's that?

[News Anchor]

Up his butt. Nice.

[Adam Curry]

Up his butt, nice. No, they're doing a hell of a job.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's an amazing job.

[Adam Curry]

They're doing well. That's too bad. It's one channel only, so that one drops by default. Default. Now we go to John's isos. Which one goes first?

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay. Are damn good.

[Adam Curry]

These boys are damn good. Wow. Wow. This is. This is this. You've got some amazing. Why do I even try? Shouldn't even try anymore.

[John C. Dvorak]

Slick.

[Adam Curry]

Slick show.

[News Anchor]

Slick.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oof.

[Adam Curry]

Oof. And the best.

[News Anchor]

Another spectacular show by the best.

[Adam Curry]

This is so hard. I think. Think slick show.

[News Anchor]

Slick.

[Adam Curry]

I like that one. These boys are damn good. That's kind of the funniest. I kind of like go with that one. I think that's the best. And now everybody decide from the moment you've really been waiting for for three hours. John's tip of the day. And sometimes Adam created by Dana Burnetti.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, this time I talk a little bit about. About glassware.

[Adam Curry]

Glassware. Nice glassware.

[John C. Dvorak]

So I think people should have the proper glassware when they serve alcoholic beverages.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, I'm happy to hear this because I could not agree more. I think we do not have good glassware here in the. The curry compound. So I'm very interested in this particular typical.

[John C. Dvorak]

I could probably do a whole number of these, but I'm going to do this one in particular because this is a. This is a good one to make it really look like you know what you're doing. Ooh. Now, I will say that I. The difference between a Burgundy glass, a Bordeaux glass, all these different varieties of Sauterne glass, they're all slightly different and you can have different glasses. The old fashioned brandy snifter, for example, is passe for the last 20 years. And if you pull one of those out, you're a rube. Let's start with that. So you either want a cognac glass or something. But in this case, we're going to discuss the Glen. Glencairn Scotch whiskey glass, which is the glass. Everyone should have a set of these.

[Adam Curry]

I have this one. I think I have this one.

[John C. Dvorak]

You have a Glencarn glass?

[Adam Curry]

I think so. It's a tiny glass.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's not that tiny.

[Adam Curry]

Well, and it has kind of like a bulb and then at the top.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, here, look it up. Just look up Glencairn. But if you want to go to glencarnwhiskeyglass.com to find one of the vendors. Glencard is spelled G, L, E, N, C, A, I, R, N. Yes.

[Adam Curry]

This is the one. I have. I have one. Yes. I have a set.

[John C. Dvorak]

You have a set?

[Adam Curry]

I have two.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, they're designed for.

[Adam Curry]

It came with the bottle.

[John C. Dvorak]

I believe it came with the bottle.

[Adam Curry]

Win. I've got this one. Oh, you have to do a glass for the next three shows. This is a great.

[John C. Dvorak]

I can do a lot of glasses. Glass.

[Adam Curry]

I think this is.

[John C. Dvorak]

But Glencairn glass is a. Is the Scotch whiskey glass.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Period.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

But you can serve bourbon and all these other things, but you're kind of violating the rules. This is really a Scotch glass, but it's a classy looking glass. It does. It's not. It's kind of stemless. It's got kind of a foot.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. It has no stems. Just a foot.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's like a tulip with a foot.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

And this is an excellent glass. And for Scotch drinkers, I would recommend this. Get a set of these six. They have them everywhere. Everywhere sells them. Amazon has them. You can go to this website I just cited. And they're here and there. They can get pretty fancy. But just a regular one is the one you want.

[Adam Curry]

I feel so bad now because. And Tina is going to be. I don't know if she's listening because I think there's some. There's some dudes and they have. They have bourbon. I know it's not Scotch whiskey, but they have bourbon in that has been aged in a sherry cask. And I get their name. And they may be in Texas, actually. And they sent me, well, bourbon can't be in Texas. They sent me their bourbon and a set of these glasses.

[John C. Dvorak]

And they sent these glasses, these scotch glasses with their bourbon.

[Adam Curry]

Yep, yep, yep, yep. Is it okay for bourbon too?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, it's not really, but it's, it's not, it's not a bad idea.

[Adam Curry]

It's not a bad idea supply. It's just that it's a good glass, bad idea supply. I'm happy that I have the right glasses. I, I can't wait for the next tip of the day. Tipoftheday.net noagendafun.com.

[John C. Dvorak]

And sometimes Adam created by.

[Adam Curry]

Dana Burnetti Wow, Excellent tip, John. This is, this is very important. I can't wait for the red wine glass. Then we have the white wine glass. Then we have the champagne glass. I'd say this is your beat for the next three shows.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I could do a lot of stuff on glasses, but I can do two.

[Adam Curry]

I think you could, you could do a book.

[John C. Dvorak]

Too many glasses. Dot com.

[Adam Curry]

There you go. Somebody registered that right away. Thank you all very much for being here with us. Thank you for supporting [e-mail] it means a lot. And end of show mixes, we have, oh, the clip custodian, Neil Jones. Jones, who sent a very nice mix in. Professor J. Jones, no relation, he's in China. And David Kechta, excellent drummer. Look for him on YouTube. And up next on no Agenda, stream the Trollroom IO and your modern podcast app. We have behind the schemes. Always a fun show to listen to. Boost those kids. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas hill country here in Fredericksburg in the morning, everybody.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley. Would actually rain this morning, but it won't rain anymore. I'm John C. Dvorak.

[Adam Curry]

Still chilly here in Fred. And remember us please atnoen Agenda donations dot com. We will see you on Thursday right here on no agenda. Till then, adios mo fos a hooey. Hooey and such. Like Jack Palance in the movie Shane throwing the pistol at the sheep herder. Speed, pick it up. I don't want to pick it up, mister. You'll shoot me if all of the hostages aren't returned. As far as I'm concerned, if all.

[John C. Dvorak]

Of the hostages aren't returned By Saturday.

[Adam Curry]

At 12:00, I think it's an appropriate time. I would say cancel it and all bets are off and let hell break out.

[Reporter]

Return all of them Return all of them.

[Adam Curry]

If they're not returned all of them.

[John C. Dvorak]

Not in drips and grabs, not 2.

[Adam Curry]

And 1 and 3 and 4 and 2. You all saw him. He had a gun.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's now a Kennedy in a replacement Republican administration.

[News Anchor]

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Has officially just been confirmed.

[John C. Dvorak]

Big talker is going to do this, is going to do that. Everybody's jacked up about it.

[Adam Curry]

100 things that I'm going to do immediately. And I'll say them, you guys are part of the racket community syndicate.

[John C. Dvorak]

And so he made some promises.

[Adam Curry]

Promise with a stroke of the pen.

[John C. Dvorak]

People who care about health.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

And so he made some promises.

[Adam Curry]

Promises, promises.

[John C. Dvorak]

We should hold them accountable and make sure that these promises are noted.

[Adam Curry]

Databases.

[John C. Dvorak]

Big talker.

[Adam Curry]

And overnight you can say of this vaccines associated with diagnosis. 80s and I'll say them, you guys are part of a racketeering. That's 97 more to go. I can't wait.

[John C. Dvorak]

We should hold him accountable and make sure that these promises are noted. He's going to do this, he's going to do that. Everybody's jacked up about it. And so he made some promises.

[Adam Curry]

97 more to go. I can't wait. The time has come for the UK.

[Expert]

And the EU to declare a state.

[Adam Curry]

Of war with the United States of America. Ever since the fascist takeover by Donald Trump Doge Elon Musk, American America now represents a serious threat to democracy across.

[Expert]

The world, especially in the Western world.

[Adam Curry]

Don't be a dick. Don't be a dick. What kind of interviewer says don't be a dick? Unbelievable.

[John C. Dvorak]

More on that clip because super.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Is it 14 seconds I haven't thought about.

[Adam Curry]

I want to hear the don't be a dick against don't be a dick. Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

I said concentration camps. You could maga.

[Adam Curry]

We don't need to talk about efficiency. I think from government efficiency.

[Expert]

This is not government efficiency.

[Adam Curry]

This is actually just cutting programs, cutting benefits.

[News Anchor]

There are actually ways of saving resources to save money.

[Expert]

One of those ways is not to give billionaires there's a huge tax cut.

[John C. Dvorak]

The best podcast in the universe.

[Adam Curry]

Audio Mofo. Devorak. Org. Na. These boys are damn good.