1746 - "Bedtime Hygiene"

Summary

Podcast Summary: No Agenda – Episode 1746 "Bedtime Hygiene"

Release Date: March 13, 2025
Hosts: Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak
Description: In this episode of No Agenda, hosts Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak delve into a range of pressing issues, including allegations about former President Donald Trump's ties to Russian intelligence, the evolving conflict in Ukraine, escalating trade tensions with the European Union, cyber threats targeting social media platforms, and the ongoing misinformation surrounding vaccines and autism. The discussion is rich with analysis, insider insights, and notable quotes that shed light on the complexities of these global and domestic challenges.

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1. Allegations of Donald Trump as a Russian Asset

The episode opens with a controversial claim sourced from Deutsche Welle, suggesting that Donald Trump has been a Russian asset since the 1980s. John C. Dvorak introduces this theory, discussing the distinction between a "Russian agent" and a "Russian asset."

• Key Points:

  • Definition and differences between Russian agents and assets.
  • Alleged interactions between Trump and KGB operatives starting in 1980.
  • The narrative proposes that Trump never took up a direct role with the KGB but maintained a passive association.

• Notable Quotes:

  • John C. Dvorak (02:09): "We are apparently getting closer to the deal. We've got Zelensky all wrapped up."
  • Adam Curry (04:02): "Wow, the journalism is so in depth at Deutsche Welle. Absolutely."

2. Ukraine Conflict and Ceasefire Negotiations

A significant portion of the discussion centers around the conflict in Ukraine, particularly focusing on Russia's military advancements in the Kursk region and the United States' stance on ceasefire negotiations under Trump's administration.

• Key Points:

  • Recent footage depicting Putin's involvement in command posts as Russia attempts to reclaim territories.
  • Ukraine's acceptance of a U.S.-proposed 30-day ceasefire, contingent upon Russia's agreement.
  • Analysis of the strategic importance of regions like Soja, Chasiv Yar, and Pokrovsk.

• Notable Quotes:

  • John C. Dvorak (02:37): "This really has no such thing as a ball in a court."
  • Adam Curry (08:22): "Before you go on. You know, the funny thing is that this flip flops because Trump's been pulling this stunt off quite well."

3. Trade War with the European Union

The hosts explore the escalating trade tensions between the U.S. and the EU, highlighting Trump's imposition of tariffs on EU products and the EU's retaliatory measures targeting American goods.

• Key Points:

  • Trump's declaration of a 25% tariff on foreign steel and aluminum.
  • The EU's response with a 50% tariff on whiskey and potential 200% tariffs on other alcoholic products.
  • The economic impact of these tariffs on American consumers and specific industries.

• Notable Quotes:

  • Adam Curry (23:08): "I think this country is going to boom."
  • John C. Dvorak (37:04): "And it's going to rearm NATO, what do you think?"

4. Cyber Attacks on X (Twitter) and Social Media Concerns

The episode addresses recent cyber attacks on X (formerly Twitter), attributed to pro-Palestinian hacking groups like Dark Storm Team. The hosts discuss the implications of these attacks on social media security and the broader digital landscape.

• Key Points:

  • Description of the cyber attack’s scale and potential origins.
  • Impact on platform operations and user data security.
  • The role of social media in modern geopolitical conflicts.

• Notable Quotes:

  • John C. Dvorak (164:39): "The Chinese Communist Party is waging a full scale cyber war against the American people."
  • Adam Curry (167:22): "You’ve got to bring down all the social media networks. That would be great."

5. Vaccine Misinformation and Autism Claims

A critical segment focuses on the persistent misinformation linking vaccines to autism. Hosts discuss scientific evidence debunking this myth, featuring interactions with fictional characters representing misinformation proponents.

• Key Points:

  • Reiteration of studies disproving the link between vaccines and autism.
  • The importance of addressing vaccine hesitancy for public health.
  • Strategies for combating misinformation through education and transparent communication.

• Notable Quotes:

  • John C. Dvorak (87:56): "My tip is pay for your movies. People stop downloading it illegally."
  • Adam Curry (44:18): "But it's not like you get one of these things on, on your machine, it causes a problem."

6. Political and Economic Analysis

The hosts provide an in-depth analysis of the U.S. economy, discussing bond yields, national debt refinancing, and the potential implications of Trump's economic policies on future market stability.

• Key Points:

  • The looming challenge of refinancing $9.2 trillion of U.S. debt.
  • Trump's use of tariffs as a tool to influence economic policies and market behaviors.
  • Predictions on interest rate changes and their effects on the housing market and overall economy.

• Notable Quotes:

  • Adam Curry (35:00): "You buy futures? Oh, yeah, wine futures."
  • John C. Dvorak (37:04): "Here’s what they're doing. They're trying to stick to their demands, and if they don't get anything, they're just going to keep pushing."

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Conclusion

Episode 1746 of No Agenda offers a provocative exploration of high-stakes geopolitical maneuvers, economic strategies, and the battle against misinformation. Through sharp analysis and engaging dialogue, Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak encourage listeners to question mainstream narratives and seek deeper understanding of the forces shaping our world.

Notable Quotes to Remember:

• John C. Dvorak (05:05): "They were considered assets. And I think of Donald Trump in the same vein."
• Adam Curry (110:31): "Bird flu is bird flu and humans super dangerous."

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Transcript

[Adam Curry]

What court do I own that? There's a ball in there. Get the ball out of here.

[John C. Dvorak]

Adam Curry. John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, March 13, 2025. This is your award winning Kimball Nation Media Assassination Episode 1746. This is no agenda awaiting peace from Putin. And broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill country here in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody.

[Adam Curry]

I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley, where Michelle Obama has a podcast. Next up, Meghan Mark. I'm John C. Dvorak.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm pretty sure Meghan Markle already has a podcast. She had. She had a. A Spotify exclusive for a while.

[Adam Curry]

Well, she's got a new podcast from. Oh, Meg Island.

[John C. Dvorak]

Meghan Markin. Markin. Megan Markin.

[Adam Curry]

Megan Markin. Everybody does. Who doesn't?

[John C. Dvorak]

Did you hear any of that Michelle Obama podcast? It's so. It's so bad.

[Adam Curry]

Somebody pointed out there was like 11 million people. 11 million. 11,000 people that listen to it. But yet she sells 11 million books. How does that work?

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know.

[Adam Curry]

The books are a scam.

[John C. Dvorak]

Here it is, everybody. Hello. It's time for the podcast.

[Unknown]

Let's Rock and Roll Episode is brought to you by Pine Sol. Hey. Well, hi again. It's you again. Oh, I like your. Is that pink? It's.

[John C. Dvorak]

My wife called it Coral, but it.

[Unknown]

Is coral and it's a little pleated.

[John C. Dvorak]

What?

[Unknown]

This is.

[John C. Dvorak]

That goes on for two minutes. That's what you're supposed to do before the episode starts, people. That's what we do. We talk about relevance.

[Adam Curry]

Wife. That guy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I guess Craig, her brother has.

[Adam Curry]

What was that?

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know. Just. Just popped out. That's good. You know, this is her ramping up for 2028. She's getting ready. Finally, Big Mike. 2028. I need to register the new domain name. That's all you have.

[Adam Curry]

And by now it's too late.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, it's way too late. I'm tired of it. I got too many domain names registering domain names for everybody. But it's almost like we're going back in time. It's almost like we're rewinding the clock eight years. It's really quite incredible. People ask why we're on our final four years of the show, and I would say this is kind of the reason. This is from Deutsche Wella. This came over the transom yesterday from.

[Unknown]

Day one of Russia's full scale invasion of Ukraine. The allegiance of Washington to Kyiv has.

[John C. Dvorak]

Been steadfast and strong three years long. And then Donald Trump was elected US President again.

[Unknown]

And that allegiance seemed to disintegrate overnight. Trump has called Ukrainian President Zelensky a dictator.

[John C. Dvorak]

The US Is demanding difficult things from.

[Adam Curry]

Ukraine if there is to be a ceasefire.

[John C. Dvorak]

And from Russia. No demands at all tonight. My guest says this all makes sense once you realize what Donald Trump really is. A Russian asset. Yeah, baby, we're back. The time machine is in effect.

[Adam Curry]

So you don't think telling the Russians to stop shooting is not a demand, is.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's really quite. You want to hear this guy, this New York Times journalist. You want to hear him what he had to say. His, his, his rationale for saying that Trump is still a rationale.

[Adam Curry]

This is all new Russian asset. That's an interesting concept. Whoever heard of such a thing? Yeah, I'd love to hear.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, we all know it started with the dressing down of Zelensky in the Oval Office.

[Adam Curry]

My first guess says that Donald Trump.

[John C. Dvorak]

Is indeed a Russian ass. Indeed.

[Adam Curry]

I'm happy to welcome journalist Russian ass.

[John C. Dvorak]

Craig Unger to the show.

[Adam Curry]

Tell us, what does that mean? And I'm assuming that there is a difference between a Russian agent and a Russian asset.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow, the journalism is so in depth at Deutsche Welle. Absolutely.

[Unknown]

An agent is employed by an intelligence agency. He or she knows that he's employed.

[John C. Dvorak]

They're employed.

[Unknown]

They get paid by them, and they can be tasked with specific operations. An asset is very different. An asset is more like a reliable friend, someone that they.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is going to get great. Listen to who he says is also a Russian asset could trust.

[Unknown]

In the past, the KGB had a history of developing relationships with very wealthy billionaires like Armand Hammer, who was head of Occidental Petroleum and made a fortune.

[John C. Dvorak]

With oil deals with the Soviet Union.

[Unknown]

Or Robert Maxwell, the late British press baron who was also close to the kgb. They were considered assets. And I think of Donald Trump in the same vein. This started to happen in the early 80s, just as some of those people.

[John C. Dvorak]

Were aging out as former assets. So Robert Maxwell, who I think was more known as a Mossad agent than KGB agent. And Armand Hammer. Is that the baking soda guy?

[Adam Curry]

Armin Ham is a very famous CEO of Occidental Petroleum.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And he probably did a deal. He did deals all over the place. That's what he was known for. He was not a Russian asset by any means that anyone would. That I've ever heard of. I never heard that before.

[John C. Dvorak]

This guy wrote the book. He should know. He's from the New York Times. But this is the most startling Thing is, when this started, do you know when President Trump was recruited as an asset by the KGB?

[Adam Curry]

1980.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, not. Okay, that's the year. But under what circumstances?

[Adam Curry]

This is hooker's peeing on him in a hotel.

[John C. Dvorak]

Close. Little less exciting.

[Adam Curry]

Well, how did Donald Trump become a Russian asset?

[Unknown]

It really started in 1980 and Trump was not nearly as successful as businessman as many people think. But in 1980 he had his first great success. He was developing the Grand Hyatt Hotel, which is still there next to Grand Central Station. And like any hotel, it needed television sets. Trump ended up buying those television sets in deal with an electronic store that happened to be a KGB front.

[John C. Dvorak]

There you go. So I went into this TV what I went, wow. I went into a TV store to buy some TVs for my hotel. And what do you know? They said, hey Donald, I make you a deal you cannot refuse an electronic.

[Unknown]

Store that happened to be a KGB front. And that's how it started in 1980.

[John C. Dvorak]

And it started a series of meetings.

[Unknown]

Between Trump and people who are in the kgb.

[John C. Dvorak]

There was a woman named Natalia Dubinina.

[Unknown]

Who met with Trump. Her father was ambassador to the Soviet.

[John C. Dvorak]

Ambassador to the United nations and later the United States.

[Unknown]

And this relationship started and it evolved until 1987 when the KGB sent Trump to Moscow.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, they say hey Donalds, and we're sending you to Moscow. This.

[Adam Curry]

They sent him to Moscow?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, they sent him to Moscow. It's really quite.

[Adam Curry]

He didn't go to Moscow.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, they sent him a plane ticket and everything. It's, it's quite astounding that, and that Deutsche Welle would let, would, would take this guy and put him on the air for like six minutes with this nonsense. It's really, really astounding. So we are, it was right in my face. So we are apparently getting closer to the deal. We've got Zelensky all wrapped up.

[Adam Curry]

Before you go on. You know, the funny thing is that this flip flops because Trump's been pulling this stunt off quite well all of a sudden, you know, Zelenskyy's now, now we're pro Zelensky, at least according to other reports. And we hate, we're, we're. And he's starting to threaten Russia. I have a clip, but I don't want to play it now. But I'm just saying that this is all nonsense. It's crazy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Here' this is from France 24 or France Van Quatre. And it looks like Zelenskyy is ready for a deal.

[Unknown]

Volodymyr Zelenskyy, of course, was in Saudi Arabia ahead of the talks, but not involved in what was going on. But let's get his reaction. VOLODYMYR Zelenskyy, the American side understands our arguments and accepts our proposals. I want to thank President Trump for the constructive nature of our team's discussions. Today, the American side proposed taking the next step, immediately establishing a full ceasefire for 30 days. This would not only apply for missiles, drones and bombs, and not only in the Black Sea, but along the entire front line. Ukraine welcomes this proposal. We see it as a positive step and are ready to take it. The United States must now convince Russia to do the same. If they agree, the ceasefire will take effect immediately. Another key element of today's discussion was America's readiness to restore defensive aid to Ukraine, including intelligence support. If agreements are implemented, then within these 30 days of silence, we can work with our partners to develop concrete security guarantees that ensure lasting peace. Ukraine is ready for peace. Now. Russia must show whether it is ready to end or to continue the war. It is time for the full truth.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, so then we have this, the second of these two clips. Same report. Marco Rubio, of course, our Secretary of State is in charge of this, and he says the ball, the ball is in Putin's court right now in Ukraine.

[Unknown]

The result of today's talks in Saudi Arabia really is being viewed as probably the best possible result that the country could reasonably expect an effective immediately. We heard those words there from Mike Waltz. The resumption of U.S. security assistance to Ukraine and intelligence sharing after it was suspended by Donald Trump after his disastrous meeting with Volodymyr Zelensky in the Oval Office. That was the number one objective of the Ukrainian delegation in Saudi Arabia today, to get the Americans to resume military aid to Ukraine. And they're going to do that regardless of whether Russia accepts a cease fire and whether the cease fire really materializes. Their second most important objective was to put the ball in Russia's court. And Marco Rubio used those exact words to show that they are willing to make peace and now challenge Russia to show whether or not Russia is willing to make peace. And I think the Russians now have a difficult decision to make because they're the ones attacking at the moment the Ukrainians are defending. It's a lot easier to agree to a cease fire when you're on the defensive. The Russians, if they agree to a cease fire right now, that means that their attempts to retake Soja, that key town that the Ukrainians occupy in Kursk region, They're on the brink of retaking it. They might have to stop if they agree to this cease fire. They also have not yet achieved their key goals in Donbass of taking the strategic towns of Chasiv, Yar and Pokrovsk. So the Russians will be loathe to stop fighting now while the Ukrainians are on the back foot. On the other hand, the Americans have made it very clear that they are going to put pressure on the Russians. And Donald Trump said that he very much hopes that the Russian side will agree to this cease fire. So now the Russians have got expectations. Finally, the Ukrainians are perhaps about to see the Americans putting some pressure on the Russians. I mean, I think some people this evening are thinking it's almost too good to be true and wondering what's the catch?

[John C. Dvorak]

Too good to be true, but probably is.

[Adam Curry]

Why don't you explain? Since this guy didn't. I don't know, he's a British guy. I don't know where you got that clip.

[John C. Dvorak]

The same Franz von Katra.

[Adam Curry]

The guys should be fired.

[John C. Dvorak]

Done.

[Adam Curry]

What does ball in court mean?

[John C. Dvorak]

That means we are not playing cards. We are playing basketball. Football.

[Adam Curry]

Not tennis.

[John C. Dvorak]

Football. Football.

[Adam Curry]

There's no football courts.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know what the. You know what it means? The ball is.

[Adam Curry]

What does it mean?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, the ball is in your.

[Adam Curry]

And why is he using it as a phrase? Is it an American phrase? Is it an international phrase? And what court are we talking about? And what. And explain this bullcrap. There is no such thing as a ball in a court.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, you're now taking a phrase.

[Adam Curry]

Has always bugged me. Now the ball's in your court.

[John C. Dvorak]

Clearly it's bugged you.

[Adam Curry]

What am I doing? What do I mean? What court do I own that there's a ball in there. Get the ball out of here.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, I'm glad you got that off your chest after 60 years. About time.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, it's at minimum.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is very earthy.

[Adam Curry]

Minimum.

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean, it's.

[Adam Curry]

Is it a tennis court? We're talking. It's a sports basketball court.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sports ball court. Okay, well, since you are so bugged about it, I'll look it up. I can look up the balls in your court, actually.

[Adam Curry]

Look it up and follow up on this.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well, of course. I mean this. The ball is near origin and meaning. Okay. Oh, it is? Yes. The idiom. It's an idiom, John. The idiom originates from the sport of tennis. Once the tennis ball has been hit over the net, thus the onus to act, that is play the next Shot switches to the person whose half of the court contains the ball.

[Adam Curry]

The word or the ball is in your half a court. It should be. Then it should be. The ball's in your half court.

[John C. Dvorak]

And by this, I proclaim today, March 13, ball in your half of court day. I think it's all a metaphor. I'm just guessing. It started around in the 19th century, but really became popular in the 1970s, around the time that Billie Jean King rose to fame.

[Adam Curry]

Please.

[John C. Dvorak]

Speaking of balling your court. All right. I mean, I can continue, but you said you had some Russia clips you wanted to get out there.

[Adam Curry]

Well, actually, I have the Ukraine Russia stuff from the BBC. Today's my BBC day. Oh, this is not just a BBC. This is BBC World Service, which is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Short Waves, which is usually only about Africa. Whenever I listen to BBC World News, it's always some African World Service.

[Adam Curry]

Let's get it.

[John C. Dvorak]

World Service. Yeah. It's like, okay, it's never interesting and it's always on in the hotel. They never. It's the. The first thing you see in any hotel in Europe is BBC World Service. It's annoying. All right, here we go.

[Adam Curry]

Let's start with Russia. Bck.

[Unknown]

But in the past few hours, footage.

[John C. Dvorak]

Has been released of Vladimir Putin apparently visiting a command post in Kursk, the Russian region partly captured by Ukrainian forces last year. I very much expect that all combat tasks will be fulfilled and the territory of Kursk will be completely liberated from.

[Unknown]

The enemy, Mr. Putin said.

[John C. Dvorak]

Dressed in camouflage gear, the Russian Chief of Staff, General Valeriy Gerasimov, told him Russian forces had now recaptured 86% of the occupied land. Ukraine has acknowledged some setbacks there, but said fighting was continuing.

[Adam Curry]

Russia's game. Well, hold on. You lose 86%, and that's, quote, unquote, some setback.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's quite the setback, I believe. But it's these guys. They're in the game. The ball's in their court, too. Come. As the US waits for the Kremlin's response to the American ceasefire proposal agreed by Ukraine yesterday. So what is the likely thinking in Moscow? I asked Lisa Foght of the BBC Russian Service. By the way, you'd expect the BBC of all broadcast organizations to use the ball in your court metaphor? I'm surprised, very surprised.

[Unknown]

Previously, Vladimir Putin had said on many occasions that Russia is just not interested in a simple ceasefire and would like to hear more concrete and soulless proposals for a peace settlement. Of course, that would meet most Russia's terms. But right now, Russia is in a more difficult position than I think it was before this. US Ukraine talks in Eriyad. Because for weeks now we've seen America making demands of Ukraine and of Vladimir Zelensky, and now US is actually asking something from Vladimir Putin from Russia for the first time in weeks.

[Adam Curry]

That's not what the Deutsche Welle said.

[John C. Dvorak]

You mean France 24.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, whoever that were, that New York Times.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, they did not say they were asking for something. They in fact said the ball's in your court.

[Adam Curry]

Is that what you did say? The ball's in the court?

[Unknown]

Yes, the west is actually the half court.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, the half court.

[Unknown]

Seeing something from Vladimir Putin from Russia for the first time in weeks. And it's going to be interesting to see how Russia is going to respond to that, because it comes at a.

[John C. Dvorak]

Time when Russia appears to be making advances on the battlefield. So I guess they may not want to pause.

[Unknown]

Yes, of course. And most importantly, they've just advanced their position in Kursk region. Now they're slowly gaining ground.

[John C. Dvorak]

I have a question, since we're ant effing about all this stuff. Why do they never say the Kursk region? Why is it always in Kursk region?

[Adam Curry]

In Kursk.

[John C. Dvorak]

Why don't they say in the Kursk region? It's always in Kursk region? Because everyone's easy to say the Ukraine, the Ukraine, even though it's just a hospital.

[Adam Curry]

It's like in university. He's gone. He's been accepted in university. This is the Europeans, the way they speak. It's got nothing to do with us.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right.

[Unknown]

Yes, of course. And most importantly, they've just advanced their position in Kursk region now they're slowly gaining ground, losing a lot of soldiers in the process. But I think this is the price that Russia is ready to pay, as Vladimir Putin has indicated over those months and years of fighting. But indeed for Russia right now, just stopping where they are, potentially meaning getting no ground in Ukraine, which was one of the main objectives.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I think she may have a point her head. Okay, next clip.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, sure.

[Unknown]

Russia indicated many times that it wants Ukraine to make many more concessions. It wants other countries to recognize Russian sovereignty over the lands that it captured in Ukraine. It wants Ukraine to give up any hope of joining NATO. It wants to see sanctions relief. And I think for Russia, it's just not clear at the moment whether the ceasefire is just going to be connected to this discussion about bigger goals that Russia wants to achieve in Ukraine.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now, you said that Russia is in a more difficult position than it's faced for some time.

[Unknown]

I Mean, in terms of what's happened.

[John C. Dvorak]

With Donald Trump now apparently moving towards, towards the Ukrainians, what's been the reaction to that in Russia?

[Unknown]

I think generally, any reaction, just the assessment of this new track in the relationship with Washington D.C. has been somewhat restrained and Putin himself has been very, very cautious. He praised Trump for taking this new line in his relationship with Moscow. Vladimir Putin said that it gives hope, but, but always very cautious in any assessment of whether this new relationship, this dialogue can actually lead to peace.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I think the BBC. Is this report from today or from yesterday?

[Adam Curry]

From yesterday, yesterday.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, so we have, we have a little bit of an update and I think the BBC is not far from the truth. This is, let me see. This is the report that came through from Kursk region.

[Unknown]

Russia is close to kicking out Ukrainian forces from their territory, bringing an end to a brutal operation in the Kursk region. According to Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov, on Wednesday, Vladimir Putin visited his commanders on the front line. His demand was clear, liberate Kursk. I very much hope that all combat missions facing our units will be fulfilled and that the territory of the Kursk region will be completely liberated from the enemy in the near future. As ceasefire negotiations make progress, Russia has ramped up the pressure to retake the territory they lost after Ukraine's surprise counteroffensive in August, the first foreign occupation of Russian territory since World War II. Shortly after the US poised both military and intelligence support to Ukraine, Russia launched a daring assault behind enemy lines. Mines. Using a pipeline to crawl under Ukraine's line of defense, Special forces reportedly advanced over 15 km in the darkness and were in the tunnels for several days before the ambush. Just six months ago, the giant pipeline was carrying Siberian gas to Europe.

[John C. Dvorak]

So this is kind of cool where they, they, they went into the pipeline that got shut off and they had their masks on and oxygen and they, they shimmied through this pipeline for 15km and are about to pop up behind lines. And we have breaking news breaking, breaking. Boots on the ground. Boots on the ground, I tell you, which is actually Sir Jean sitting in his underwear at home watching Putin on television. Putin says, yeah, I don't see why a 30 day truce would be very beneficial. It makes no sense, he says, to a point where multiple large cauldrons of Ukrainian troops are cut off because they're behind enemy lines thanks to the pipeline ops and on the verge of being captured. He said numerous times, according to Sir Gene, our Russian boots on the ground, that he is in principle in favor of having a ceasefire but due to the experience of the last ceasefire negotiated, which resulted in nothing more but a rearming of Ukraine by Germany and other European countries, it is likely the exact same thing would happen this time. He did hint he's open to a ceasefire if those troops that he is now cut off from retreating would surrender rather than rearm. That's breaking news.

[Adam Curry]

Well, that's something that is exclusive to the no Agenda show.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's right.

[Adam Curry]

That report.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's right.

[Adam Curry]

Wow.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. So that will, that will be. That will be what? It comes.

[Adam Curry]

The ball's now in your court.

[John C. Dvorak]

Half court.

[Adam Curry]

In the half court.

[John C. Dvorak]

Half court. Meanwhile, Queen Ursula.

[Adam Curry]

That was a good ploy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, it's a great ploy. It's, it's, it makes so much sense. And yes.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

He surrounds him, captures. Now he's gonna bargain with who?

[John C. Dvorak]

He's five by five in the pipe right behind the Ukrainians. Hey, boys, where are you going? So don't fight us. Surrender.

[Adam Curry]

Staying here.

[John C. Dvorak]

Surrender. Well, it's possible.

[Adam Curry]

Let's just play this NPR report from yesterday and see what they had to say.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

President Trump says there are things the U.S. can do that would be very bad for Russia.

[John C. Dvorak]

NPR's Franco Ordonez reports on steps the administration is taking to pressure Russia to reach a peace deal on the war in Ukraine. Trump says U.S. officials are going to.

[Adam Curry]

Russia to urge Moscow to sign on to a 30 day ceasefire plan that.

[Unknown]

The United States worked out with Ukraine. The plan between Ukraine and Russia could.

[Adam Curry]

Be extended if both sides consent.

[Unknown]

During an Oval Office meeting with the.

[Adam Curry]

Irish prime minister, Trump says it's up to Russia now.

[John C. Dvorak]

He says he hopes they agree, warning it could be bad if they don't.

[Adam Curry]

I can do things financially that would.

[Unknown]

Be very bad for Russia. I don't want to do that because.

[Adam Curry]

I want to get peace. I want to see peace. And we'll see. Trump emphasized that he hopes such pressure on Moscow won't be necessary and that.

[John C. Dvorak]

He'S feeling they may be, quote, getting.

[Adam Curry]

Close to getting something done.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, you make a good point. It's like, why does this podcast, the no Agenda show? Why do we have. Why can we put this together so quickly? And I'm looking at the quad box now. None of the news networks have figured this out, that Putin was live on television. They don't have Russian speakers.

[Adam Curry]

I guess not.

[John C. Dvorak]

Or maybe it's not. They. Maybe they want war because Ursula sure seems to want it. Here's the queen.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, good point.

[John C. Dvorak]

Here's the queen.

[Unknown]

Honorable members, the European Security order is being shaken. And so many of our illusions are being shattered.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, no.

[Unknown]

After the end of the Cold War.

[Adam Curry]

Hold on.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, she's going to explain her illusions.

[Adam Curry]

She's going to explain the illusions being shattered.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. Yes, she is.

[Unknown]

Honorable members, the European Security Order is being shaken. And so many of our illusions are being shattered. After the end of the Cold War, some believed that Russia could be integrated it in Europe's economic and security architecture.

[John C. Dvorak]

It was perfectly all of the energy into Germany. Germany sent them Mercedes Benzes. The. The euro was circulating. It was beautiful. There was no problem.

[Unknown]

Others hoped that we could rely indefinitely on America's full protection.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

And so we lowered our guard. We cut our defense spending from routinely averaging more than 3.5% to less than half of that. This.

[John C. Dvorak]

She's literally making President Trump's point. You guys weren't paying your fair share, but she says, oh, no, we just believed in peace. And the Americans, they'll take care of it for us.

[Unknown]

We thought we were enjoying a peace dividend, but in reality, we were just running a security deficit. It. The time of illusions is over. Now Europe is called to take greater charge of its own defense. Not in some distant future, but already today. Not with incremental steps, but with the courage that the situation requires. We need a surge in European defense.

[John C. Dvorak]

Surge.

[Unknown]

And we need it now.

[John C. Dvorak]

We need a surge and we need it now. And this was all in the European Parliament. Everyone's standing up, talking some nonsense. This is Manfred Weber. He's a member of Europe, European Parliament, and he sees this very dire right now.

[Unknown]

We see people we know what we owe the Americans as Supreme Commander Eisenhower. And American soldiers brought freedom and democracy back to Europe. Reagan's call for the. To the Soviet Union tear down this wall in 1987 brought freedom and democracy also to Central and Eastern Europe. On the other hand, what happened in the White House two weeks ago was simply a scandal. To say Ukraine is responsible for the war is simply a lie. And even with our long history with our US Friends in mind, we must call a lie a lie.

[John C. Dvorak]

A lie.

[Unknown]

No one can twist the truth.

[Adam Curry]

Putin.

[Unknown]

Putin doesn't want to end the war. He wants to end Ukraine and European. We will never allow this.

[John C. Dvorak]

After the speech of Vice President Vance.

[Unknown]

In Munich and what happened with Zelensky in the Oval Office, one reality is clear, dear friends. We are. We are alone.

[John C. Dvorak]

We are alone.

[Unknown]

The world is in turmoil. Europe has to wake up. We have to become responsible for ourselves. Our security is not in the hand of Washington or Moscow. It must be in our hands.

[John C. Dvorak]

So the question is. And it was kind of interesting. This guy's crazy. All those speeches were like that. So I'm watching before the show, and Mark Rutte, the NATO Secretary General, is sitting next to President Trump. How are you, Donald? It's good to see you. So maybe there's a double gambit going on here.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. You have this thesis that Ruta is actually a stooge of Trump's.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, of course, I had no time to clip it, but President Trump was saying, I'm so happy you got the job. There was some other guy, and we didn't want him. We didn't like him. We didn't like him.

[Adam Curry]

He's on a Trump now, huh?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I'm trying. I didn't even know who the other guy was. And then he says, you are a great prime minister in the Netherlands, where collectively half of the country of the Netherlands went, no, but okay, he's our sales guy. We've identified that. So is it possible. Is it possible that now that. And by the way, this whole thing, this whole 800 billion euros, this is all because Ursula triggered Article 122? See, you won't get that from your mainstream news. This is Article 22 of the Treaty on the functioning of the European Union allows bypassing the European Parliament. I mean, what are the chances that they had a little poison pill in there? It's, in effect what President Trump does with a state of emergency. It's the same kind of thing. But at least he was elected. Ursula, it was like six people elected her. And so they invoke this with the COVID 19 vaccine purchase, which we still haven't seen all the text messages, Ursula, between you and Pfizer CEO Bourla, so she can pretty much do whatever she wants. So now that they've freed up the money and They've freed up 150 billion right away to purchase stuff for Ukraine, could it be that this is now going to be parlayed into a even stronger NATO with Margrethe at the helm, steering? Because he's been in all the. All these EU meetings. He's always there. So I wonder if they're really not all that serious about the European army. But they're like, hey, you know what? Since we already got the money, now we freed it up, you can all go into debt, can bring it back up to where it has to be for NATO and, you know, and Trump, I mean, we can trust him now. He looks stable to us. Now. Maybe this is just a whole ploy to rearm NATO, what do you think?

[Adam Curry]

Well, I wouldn't put it past the military industrial complex to come up with a scheme to get more money.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, yeah, but, but it's also.

[Adam Curry]

But they still have to resolve this Ukraine situation. They're not going to do it the way they're going about it. It.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, the Ukrainian soldiers are going to have to surrender and if they don't, well, then we'll keep going, I guess. Trump, the president was great. He was talking about pictures that he sees every day or every week. I get the pictures from Ukraine. I see young kids with their heads blown off. It was pretty graphic.

[Adam Curry]

You're going to have to do the deal. They're going to have to give up the Don boss and stop the Crimea crap. Let that slide. Kursk region and the Kursk. Well that's, I mean the, you know, you freeze everything in time. And so that's why the Russians had to get Kursk back because they didn't want to freeze it, freeze everything in time with the Ukrainians owning that area. So they, they pushed them out. So that's done. So they got Kursk back and they want their Donbas because it's part of Russia really. And then they want no NATO. And then now the additional things they have to negotiate because it's on the list of demands by Putin, which is no troops in Ukraine, no European troops in Ukraine, which I don't think he's going to get that.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, but he will get. Why wouldn't they sacrifice these Ukrainian troops? Just let them arrest them and they'll send them back when the peace treaties.

[Adam Curry]

Well, those guys are. That's a pawn. That doesn't make. Make a lot of difference. But the, the other. The big elements are get no NATO A. And they can do. Trump doesn't want NATO, neither does Hegseth or anybody else. So that's out. And then they, but they say then they. The last Russian demand is all of the sanctions are off.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean like which is not.

[Adam Curry]

It's not a big deal. Like the war stops completely. What's the reason for the sanctions?

[John C. Dvorak]

Like swift, that kind of stuff.

[Adam Curry]

Everything.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well, President Trump said.

[Adam Curry]

But then it looks like capitulation, so they have to. So there has to be some give that. I think the only give that otherwise it looks like total capitulation to Putin and they don't want that because it doesn't look good. Even though probably what she should do is they'll let some peacekeeping troops in Ukraine.

[John C. Dvorak]

Blue helmets. Get the blue helmets in.

[Adam Curry]

Blue helmets.

[John C. Dvorak]

Blue Helmets.

[Adam Curry]

Blue helmets make different color maybe. I think this should be like a black jackboot helmet. You know, black helmets, the SS thing.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay. All right. Dream on, buddy.

[Adam Curry]

That's the way it should be.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't think so.

[Adam Curry]

There's one other element on that list of demands, which is the complete denazification of Ukraine by. But that I think they can negotiate that away.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's not happening. And they have to have new elections and Zelensky has to go. You know, from what I understand, they're talking to Poroshenko. They. Which I guess would mean us. We're talking to Poroshenko about him coming back in.

[Adam Curry]

I think they should put Klitsch in.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, Klitsch is out. Klitsch is better working from the outside. No, no, we don't want. I'm just doing Victoria Noodle. And now. No, Klitsch is better not to be in.

[Adam Curry]

What?

[John C. Dvorak]

Can we get Biden in? Can we get Biden in to Midwife this deal? People should go back and listen to that whole phone call. So we stay in Europe if we're done with this, because I don't think we have much more. We have the most latest breaking news of everywhere. And if you don't mind, another breaking news. Breaking news.

[Unknown]

A major escalation in President Trump's trade war. The president now firing back at the retaliation Europe took yesterday. Here. Here is what he just posted. Quote, the European Union has just put a nasty 50% tariff on whiskey. If this tariff is not removed immediately, the US will shortly place a 200% tariff on all wines, champagnes and alcoholic products coming out of France and other EU represented countries.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, no. Stock up, John.

[Adam Curry]

Believe me, I am stocked up. But this is a fear that all the wine importers have had for the last few years because of. And one of the things, like, for example, if you buy futures, which I do.

[John C. Dvorak]

You buy futures? Oh, yeah, wine futures.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. That's what you do. Otherwise it costs you too much money.

[John C. Dvorak]

So how do you do that? What's the market? You buy that.

[Adam Curry]

You have to find somebody that sells futures. They pick them up.

[John C. Dvorak]

Is that like on Yahoo Finance?

[Adam Curry]

No, different importers have. They sell them.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

It's not that hard. If you believe me, it's not that hard.

[John C. Dvorak]

So you are in fact speculating with your wine collection?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I do that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Nice.

[Adam Curry]

And so. But about a year or two ago, they've at knl, which is one of the places that sells.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I remember K and L. I remember them.

[Adam Curry]

KN has a little check box. You have to Check if you buy futures which says if there's an out of the blue tariff that's dropped on the wine after this, you know, because they, the futures are sold at a price, let's say whatever, 35 bucks a bottle, let's say for some expensive wine, wine normally sells for more and they drop a 200 tariff, making the wine 90 bucks. You have to pay the. You have, you've checked the box and when it comes in.

[John C. Dvorak]

What kind of, what kind of future is that? That's not a good future contract.

[Adam Curry]

Well, you do not. If you're gonna get dinged, that's not good. No, I know. And it's like, just like. Oh no. Because I just. There's some really interesting wines that are showing up on the market. The 2022 Bordeaux, for example, are just a little bit overpriced.

[John C. Dvorak]

The 22 Bordeaux, 22, it's just the best, it's the best Bordeaux I've ever had. It's even better than the Beaujolais Nouveau. So I think what really? Yes, whatever you want. You're half of the court. I think that what really. And Bloomberg Daybreak had a pretty good piece on think it was the targeting that the European Union did in response to whatever we did in this, in this fog of trade war. I think that's what really irked the President.

[Unknown]

What does retaliation look like from the EU? Well, as you say, the EU's come out pretty quickly on the back of this and they're announcing plans to impose their own duties all up at about 26 billion euros, 28 billion worth of American goods. This will come in a phase approach that does still allow room for negotiations. So there were existing tariffs that had been suspended on the US Those are due to snap back, as they say, at the end of March. And it sounds like they'll just let them return. And it's interesting to see that they're very much targeting certain products that are produced in certain states, politically sensitive states, should we say, in Republican led areas. So that includes soybeans from Louisiana, for example, bourbon, aluminium and steel obviously, but also products like boats and motorbikes. And some of these are produced very much in Republican led states like Nebraska and Kansas. So it seems to be very deliberate, very targeted. We know that they're looking at additional tariffs by mid April. That's after the reciprocal tariffs from Donald Trump are set to potentially come into force. So we are seeing the EU come out swinging today. I mean, they call it a calibrated response, but a proportional one. But certainly it's Interesting. Interesting to see that the EU has decided to announce retaliation when other countries today are seemingly holding fire.

[John C. Dvorak]

So that does seem like it was a target. Although you could, if it's, you know, the motorbikes, you can have Harley Davidson because they've gone all woke. So we're not too concerned about that. But it does seem like that was some direct targeting. And can we get an opinion on the pronunciation of aluminum? I need an opinion on this. Is it aluminium? Is it aluminum?

[Unknown]

Aluminum.

[John C. Dvorak]

Or is it aluminum?

[Adam Curry]

What is aluminum? But the British love calling it aluminium.

[John C. Dvorak]

Why? Why? It's. That's. Is that. Well, it's like spelled differently. Aluminium.

[Adam Curry]

Lorries. Lorries. Just kind of a factory, it seems to me. I don't know why they call.

[John C. Dvorak]

So I've been, I've been looking at what the President is doing and of course, you know, it's these, these tariffs, man, that's, it's been shaking the market. But specifically it happened on Sunday when he went on the Money Honeys podcast there on Fox News, Fox Business News, because I think that's a podcast level audience. And he said, well, you know, I'm not, I'm not ruling it out.

[Unknown]

Donald Trump might have been vague over the weekend, refusing to rule out a recession, but the US President finally gave reporters a little more clarity on Tuesday. I think there will be a recession. I don't see it at all.

[Adam Curry]

I think this country is going to boom.

[Unknown]

But as I said, I can do.

[Adam Curry]

It the easy way or the hard way.

[John C. Dvorak]

So this is after the Money Honey. Then he says, oh, I don't see a recession at all. After the markets went, went careening down.

[Adam Curry]

The hard way to do it is exactly what I'm doing.

[Unknown]

But the results are going to be 20 times great, greater. I'm very optimistic about the country. I think we're going to have the greatest markets we've ever had. That hard way apparently refers to Trump's repeated use of tariffs as a weapon to pressure US Trading partners. Despite the gains he's promising, markets reacted nervously, a far cry from the confidence seen following his election. Off the back of such promises as deregulation and tax cuts, markets swung high and low all day as confusion reigned over yet further levies on Canadian steel and aluminium.

[John C. Dvorak]

Aluminium Confusion, confusion. It's just confusion in the markets. He's creating confusion. Just by going on the Money Honey.

[Unknown]

Podcast, President Trump's new tariff threat, he sparked fears over the economy as he declined to rule out the possibility of a recession. We'll get the latest from the Markets senior political correspondent Rachel Scott starts us off from the White House. Good morning, Rachel. George, good morning to. The president has insisted that Americans will be better off in the long run because of these tariffs. But he's also acknowledged there will be some economic pain. When asked directly if it could lead to a recession, he declined to rule it out this morning. After a week of shaky markets and tariff whiplash, President Trump is hesitant to rule out a recession in 2025.

[John C. Dvorak]

I hate to predict things like that.

[Adam Curry]

There is a period of transition because what we're doing is very big.

[Unknown]

We're bringing wealth back to America. But just days ago, the markets tumbled when Trump imposed a 25% tariff on goods from Canada and Mexico. The President quickly reversed in course. Now Trump says he's planning for even more. A 25% tariff on all foreign steel and aluminum will take on Wednesday. And vowing to impose what he calls reciprocal tariffs on countries, too. April 2, it becomes all reciprocal. What they charge us, we charge them this morning. China's 10 to 15% retaliatory tariffs on US goods, including chicken, wheat, soybeans and beef, now taking effect. Many economists warn the impact of tariffs will be passed down to consumers in the form of higher prices.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, so I've been thinking about this and I came across an article, and this kind of goes back to something I must have said last year that, you know, this is a real estate guy, he's going to refi the country. And I don't. And I may be out of my depth here, but what I'm seeing in, in the markets, which, as you know, are crashing every single day, crashing when these asset prices go down, what also happens, and I think it's about 0.6% now since he started the whiplash, is the bond yields go down because people. And I'm just. And again, you'll be able to correct me if I'm wrong, but the way the simplistic view from me is, okay, we can't trust this stuff. Mag 7. Whatever. AI, I don't know, I'm just gonna go buy some bonds now. When the yields go down, of course the price goes up, but the yields are going down. And this is what I didn't know until I came across this article, that in 2025, we have to refinance $9.2 trillion of the U.S. debt, of which I think 2 trillion may be due in April. If he just keeps whiplashing everybody and the bond prices, even at 0.6%, that could be a lot of money. So this may just all be a refi ploy and he may try to get it even lower by going even crazier in the next few weeks just to get those bond prices down, cause the, the fear, the actual fear of recession and then maybe, maybe try and get the Fed to step in and trigger something. We also have this didn't go very well reported the inflation number one.

[Unknown]

We are just seconds away now from February cpi.

[Adam Curry]

Rick Santelli standing by the CME in Chicago.

[Unknown]

Rick, the numbers. Yes.

[Adam Curry]

Boy, this is a biggie. This is our February ready consumer price index expected up 310 comes in a 10th light up 210 of a percent.

[John C. Dvorak]

And in the rear view mirror at.

[Adam Curry]

Least now not Revised.

[John C. Dvorak]

And a path 1% by the way.

[Adam Curry]

Was a two year high. We're reversing from up 210 equals where we were in October to find a lower number. You're back to July of last year.

[John C. Dvorak]

Year over year headline number nine and.

[Adam Curry]

Expected 2.8 is what we get.

[John C. Dvorak]

So of course no one talks about it. But so inflation down just a tick. Of course it's still up. It's. It's compounded. But could this whole thing, when he says well there's a hard way to do it and it's going to be great, could this be a ploy to just get interest rates lower? John C. Dvorak go.

[Adam Curry]

Well, that's for an amateur.

[John C. Dvorak]

You're.

[Adam Curry]

That's an interesting thesis. I'm not going to say that you're off the mark which is by the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Way, that's John C. Dvorak's way of saying hey, I think I agree with you but I don't really want to give you any creep credence or credo or credit.

[Adam Curry]

There you go.

[John C. Dvorak]

This just felt right to me once I saw that $9.2 trillion number. I'm like okay, okay. That kind of makes sense.

[Adam Curry]

Well I like the thesis that you. That, that he's a real estate guy. And it's true. If you're like, if you're mainly investing in real estate all your life, that's what you do. Everything is refi.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And that's why you don't own anything. You just, you. Everything's financed and you're just in, you know, there's a debt. You have, you're in debt, but it's a re. It's just a funny thing with real estate. If you like real estate. I personally like it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Everything is leveraged. Everything is leveraged.

[Adam Curry]

Everything's leveraged and everything is. And then you take out what you Need. I mean, it's almost disaggressing great product because it's real outstanding product. It's like bitcoin from that regard. You can't make more of it, right?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. There's only so much.

[Adam Curry]

You're at the limit, you're already done. All the bitcoins have been done. And that's real estate. So real estate is always the best asset.

[John C. Dvorak]

Bitcoin is digital real estate. You know who actually said that?

[Unknown]

That.

[John C. Dvorak]

That microstrategies guy.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, well, microstrategies are all in on that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sailor. Sailor Microstrategy.

[Adam Curry]

So, yeah, so refi is the name of the game. And.

[John C. Dvorak]

And that could be a lot of money.

[Adam Curry]

And if you fluctuate and the refi business fluctuates with the interest rates, when interest rates go way down, I mean, oh, now's the time to refi. And all these ads are on tv.

[John C. Dvorak]

Exactly.

[Adam Curry]

Refinance. Here you go. And then all the fees go in and out of the finance business.

[John C. Dvorak]

And he's very good at, you know. In fact, the 34 felony counts that he was indicted on in New York State were for, you know, refi, where. Oh, I undervalued his, which everybody does.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, of course, you know, you do. What he did is what you do. And so you could. But, yeah, yeah, you can make a crime out of anything if you wanted to. And yeah, yeah, I think you nailed it.

[John C. Dvorak]

And let's just bring back in the stablecoin gambit because, you know, so we.

[Adam Curry]

Have to, I guess, trillion dollar coin.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, no, no, no, no. That's the bitcoin reserve. No, the stable coin. So we're going to go through this refi, which means all of the bonds come due, or not all of them, but in April we'll say, so it's 2 trillion. So boom. And then, of course, we're going to refi. So we create new bonds or Treasuries or whatever they're called, and then right away, poop. We pop a stable coin. On top of that 2 trillion, we've got a 2 trillion extra at no perceived balance sheet cost because it's independent companies who do that. And then we can flood the market. Everybody can use their dollars and then we maintain the dominance of the US Dollar. The timing may be interesting, but we'll just have to watch and see what happens.

[Adam Curry]

But not only that, fighting against it. Why people are fighting against it is the bigger question. And this morning, a big riot that took place at Trump Tower. Not a complete riot, but it was all these people Probably a couple thousand people all wearing the exact same T shirt, trying to, you know, this guy, Mahmoud, whoever it is they want, they release him, he's going to be shipped out of the country. And this a big. What's your.

[John C. Dvorak]

I have play clip of that. I have a clip of that Mahmood guy. I want to get your take on it where it is. Yeah, here it is. Mahmoud guy.

[Unknown]

Does the administration believe that it needs to charge a green card holder with a crime to be eligible for deportation? Well, in fact, Secretary Rubio reserves the right to revoke the visa of Mahmoud Khalil. And I'm glad you brought this up. Under the Immigration and Nationality act, the Secretary of State has the right to revoke a green card or a visa for individuals who serve or are adversarial to the foreign policy and national security interests of the United States of America. And Mahmoud Khalil was an individual who was given the privilege of coming to this country to study at one of our nation's finest universities and colleges. And he took advantage of that opportunity, of that privilege by siding with terrorists, Hamas terrorists, who have killed innocent men, women, and children. This is an individual who organized group protests that not only disrupted college campus classes and harassed Jewish American students and made them feel unsafe on their own college campus, but. But also distributed pro Hamas propaganda flyers with the logo of Hamas. That is what the behavior and activity that this individual engaged in. And I have those flyers on my desk. They were provided to me by the Department of Homeland Security. I thought about bringing them into this briefing room to share with all of you, but I didn't think it was worth the dignity of this room to bring that pro Hamas propaganda. But that's what this individual distributed on the campus of Columbia University. And this administration is not going to tolerate individuals having the privilege of studying in our country and then siding with pro terrorist organizations that have killed Americans. We have a zero tolerance policy for siding with terrorists, period.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now, did he actually organize these protests? Was. Was that his. His. His gig?

[Adam Curry]

No, he wasn't the organizer. He was one of the elements. He was like a key element. And he was a big protester himself. And he was also supposedly the negotiator between the school and protesters. He was going to be the arbiter or whatever. It's beside the point.

[Unknown]

I.

[Adam Curry]

The way I see it is that, like, this is a. These visas are given out for students that, you know, they go through a rigamarole so they can go to some school over here to come over here and start moaning and Groaning about everything about the government or I don't even care if it was like about Hamas. It seems to me that this is a kind of a gift. The visa for student visas are a gift to people. I mean it's an expensive gift because you got to get the school has to full tuition so that, you know, there's something like, oh God, we don't want to screw the schools completely because there's a lot of free money here. But now you can kick the guy out at first, looking at your cross eyed, I don't see why the big they're making such a big fuss about this. If the guy looks at you cross eyed, he's got a student visa. You don't like him, you kick him out. I don't get it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, just checking. Well, because we're seeing delusional people running around doing all kinds and these protests, you know, and yes, those are organized. I'm starting to think the Tesla dealership and charging stations are also organized.

[Adam Curry]

Oh yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

But there's an element of vigilantism. Here's Anderson Cooper.

[Unknown]

360 Tesla vehicles on fire at this.

[Adam Curry]

Car lot in Seattle over the weekend. The cause still under investigation.

[Unknown]

A fire erupted at a Tesla charging station.

[John C. Dvorak]

How about someone lit it in Littleton.

[Adam Curry]

Massachusetts after police say vandals targeted that center.

[Unknown]

Last week.

[John C. Dvorak]

This person caught on camera throwing a.

[Adam Curry]

Molotov cocktail at a Tesla showroom in.

[Unknown]

Oregon, weeks after police near Portland responded to shots fired at the same location.

[Adam Curry]

It comes as protests have broken out across the country at Tesla locations from.

[Unknown]

New York to California, all in response.

[Adam Curry]

To Elon Musk's involvement with doge, the Department of Government Officials. And it's cut to federal workers.

[Unknown]

He's also facing criticism over his alignment with far right politics.

[Adam Curry]

Tesla shares have plunged, losing nearly half of their value since Trump took office and Musk began slashing federal agencies.

[John C. Dvorak]

The richest man in the world has.

[Adam Curry]

Taken a hit to his fortune, losing $29 billion in net worth on Monday alone. Though he's still worth over $300 billion.

[Unknown]

Some Tesla owners are feeling buyer's remorse. Had I had the of purchasing a cybertruck after the inauguration, I just wouldn't. Others have decided to sell at a loss. About 18 to $20,000 loss. Yes.

[Adam Curry]

And those who proudly want to keep driving their Teslas.

[Unknown]

I'm going to keep, I'm going to defend it. So no, I'm not selling my Tesla.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is perhaps the most disturbing part is the car you drive now and have we ever had this? Did we ever have that in the 70s that we have. I'm. I'm trying to think, Think. Wasn't there a time when we would honk at some import or scoff at it? Was there any. No, no, never.

[Adam Curry]

I know in France. It's true. A friend of mine, a good friend of mine that lives there, Pierre, we'll.

[John C. Dvorak]

Call him Pierre, for reasons of anonymity.

[Adam Curry]

Well, he lived in little town outside of Paris and he had bought a Japanese car and they were trying to. They were basically doing everything to run him off the road. The French were not, not going for you having Japanese cars in France. This was about, I'd say, in the late 70s, early 80s. That's changed because, you know, the Japanese. What are you going to do?

[John C. Dvorak]

We're good.

[Adam Curry]

I mean, you, Toyota's, Toyota, yeah, Good cars. The BYD is not a bad operation out of China. And so. But there was. He says it was. He says it was notable that the French, if you weren't driving a French car, they got really mad at. But that never happened. That I know of, has never happened in this country. And I was always having a car as a kid.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, certainly not to this extreme.

[Adam Curry]

Kumai Jerus uses his cybertruck to advertise.

[Unknown]

His body sculpting business in Worcester, Massachusetts.

[Adam Curry]

He says he has been harassed, his.

[Unknown]

Vehicle vandalized, threatening voicemail messages like this left on his phone. Take your gold Tesla, the bunch he owns, climb in and drive down to.

[Adam Curry]

Florida or drive to Tennessee.

[Unknown]

I refuse to get terrorized. So to do something they want me to do, to force me to do that.

[Adam Curry]

Tesla owner Angela Kinslow knows what it feels like to be on the receiving end of threatening messages. She says driving a Tesla was fun.

[Unknown]

At first, until Musk got involved in politics. The thumbs down, flipped off, mean mugged, cut off. She wrote an essay about her experiences for Business Insider.

[John C. Dvorak]

Then she says things got worse.

[Unknown]

I've been sent death wishes. So folks have. Have sent, you know, I wish that, you know, I hope. How do they say it? I hope that your cyber truck catches on fire with the doors locked and you inside.

[Adam Curry]

But the backlash seems to have only strengthened Musk's relationship with the president.

[Unknown]

Just today, Trump said he would look.

[Adam Curry]

To have a tax on Tesla dealerships designated as domestic terror terrorism.

[Unknown]

I will do that.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'll do it.

[Adam Curry]

I'm going to stop them.

[Unknown]

We catch anybody doing it because they're.

[Adam Curry]

Harming a great American company. And let me tell you, you do.

[Unknown]

It to Tesla and you do it to any company. We're going to catch you and you're going to, you're going to go through hell.

[John C. Dvorak]

So you've been noticing in your TikTok escapades and I'm sorry, research scrolling, you've been seeing more and more people who presumably will be Democrat voters on the left who are just foul mouthed about everything that's going on with Elon and Doge. Right?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah, it's pretty astonishing.

[John C. Dvorak]

So, so I, so I was invited on Tuesday evening to do Flashpoint. Have you ever seen Flashpoint usa?

[Adam Curry]

I don't know Flashpoint.

[John C. Dvorak]

Flashpoint is hosted by George Bailey. I've seen him around and he has a panel on of.

[Adam Curry]

It's a, it's a podcast, a video podcast, audio. What is it?

[John C. Dvorak]

It's on television, you know, I don't know, like the Victory Channel or something. It's, it's close to Newsmax on your cable box, no doubt. But they stream, but they stream it live and you know, and so, and there's like Dutch sheets.

[Adam Curry]

Where is it? Where's it located?

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know know.

[Adam Curry]

Where'd you go? No, no, you were on. Oh, you should know is you have six box.

[John C. Dvorak]

Six box. No, they still use Skype. I said do you know Skype is going away but that it's professional because it's in real time and you got a producer talking to you. Okay, everybody, box, box. Which means stop picking your nose. You're all going to be on in your box. I was in a sexto box, so I'm in the box. And the only reason I went on is because I want to promote the show.

[Adam Curry]

Sure.

[John C. Dvorak]

And they asked me, what do you want? I said no Agenda show and my other projects. Okay, that's fine. And I had no idea. I watched some of these shows just to prep myself and sometimes it was one person and then I saw more of these boxes. I didn't know what I was walking into. So five minutes before seven, they call Skype And I see I'm in the box and counting it down. 15 seconds to George. It's like, wow. It's like real television. Haven't done that in a while. And you know, so they actually start off on me. I do my promotions. They show the MTV guy with the hair. No one's ever done that one. And one guy is like in Trump's Envoy to Israel and he waxes on and on and on and then they're talking about all the people, you know, hating Elon and going after Doge. And so I do my typical thing, you know, I say, hey, you know, it's like. Like these people need prayers. They're living in darkness. So this account on X called Right Wing Watch, have you ever seen that account? They got half a million followers, so they clip a bit out of it, which is, you know, where I'm basically saying all these people, you know, they're living in a cloud of spiritual darkness and they need prayers. Well, let me just read some of the comments. F U. Double F U. F, F, F U. Cocaine. Brain worm. Oh, Double Adam needs to go F himself. I mean, it's all just complete. Just. They've got nothing. Cursing, just cursing Adam.

[Adam Curry]

And for your comment that people need.

[John C. Dvorak]

Prayers here, Adam Curry can go fuck himself. What a dumb fuck. He's the one that has serious issues, does need to say the fuck out of government. They're screwing the American people. What the fuck is wrong with Christians? And, you know, and then gifs of middle fingers being thrown. Not a single single. That single normal argument. And to me, of course, it was like, wow, you're kind of proving my point. You're completely living under some dark cloud. It was really bizarre.

[Adam Curry]

It was like, well, I'm glad you stepped into it. Not me.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, I'm happy. You know, it's like when you're over the target, that's when the flak comes in. So I guess I hit a nerve and these people must be feeling it. And then. So I'm listening to what it is. It's literally spiritual darkness. What else can you make of it? I mean, it's not politics. This is not politics.

[Adam Curry]

If you.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's not a. Not an argument saying, well, I think, you know, this doesn't make sense. F. F you like.

[Adam Curry]

And they can't. Is that the only word they can say? The F bomb. It's embarrassing.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's all they got. And so now the. The. So my hate list, by the way.

[Adam Curry]

Reminds me of early days of podcasting when everyone was cussing because they could. Because, oh, I'm not on broadcast radio, so I'm on a podcast so I can cuss. Cuss, cuss.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And it gets really old fast.

[John C. Dvorak]

Very fast. But it's some. Some dam has been uncorked, and it's okay. And. But that's all it. You know, if you accentuate a statement with an FU and you've got something to say. But that's. It was just literally.

[Adam Curry]

No, it's not. That's. That's not what's going on. They're just saying it. It's. It's they're using it in. In. In regular context. In other words, you're just dropping f bombs throughout a sentence, which means that they have. Either their vocabulary has frozen up.

[Unknown]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's.

[Adam Curry]

They can't say anything interesting for sure, and. Or their IQ has dropped. I can't put my finger on what it is.

[John C. Dvorak]

So for months, I've been listening to Pivot. Yeah, that's right. Pivot clip. Incoming. For months, I've been listening to Pivot with Kara Swisher and Professor Scott Galloway.

[Adam Curry]

And his houses and his.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, they all got multiple houses, and so they're in Austin, south by Southwest now. What? I didn't clip this, but, you know, he was saying Austin's great and there's no taxes in Texas. And Kara switches like, well, I can't live here because they hate the gays. And, you know, and it's a live crowd and the audience, they hate the. They hate the gays.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, there's plenty of gays in Texas, let me tell you.

[John C. Dvorak]

So there's literally. Yeah, there's gay cowboys. So there's literally. You can hear the gays piping up in this Austin audience. And then she goes on to say, well, you know what I mean? It's not Austin, it's the state. Because I'd be afraid for my family. I'd love no taxes, but I'd be afraid for my family. Like, okay, fine. So for months, they've been talking about the kleptocracy. The kleptocracy. David Sachs. All he's doing is he's setting up the bitcoin strategic reserve to fill up his bags and to exit with all this, he'll be even richer than he was. By the way, he sold every single cryptocurrency had two months ago, he divested from any fund, including his buddy Jason Calacanis, who has, I guess, has a fund who has one or two companies in there that might have some. He got rid of everything. Guy's rich. He doesn't need more money. So how often have we heard. For weeks. Months, Elon. He bought the presidency $270 million.

[Unknown]

To.

[John C. Dvorak]

Make his businesses even better, to become richer.

[Adam Curry]

Richer.

[John C. Dvorak]

And so now, of course, it's falling apart because it turns out it's not true. And listen to how Pivot pivots like.

[Unknown]

David Sachs getting involved in crypto and then getting Trump have dinner with the guy from Ripple who probably promised him money, and then all of a sudden deciding to include Ripple in the strategic bitcoin reserve. By the way, there's nothing straight about that. And then all of a sudden, ripple rips. That's smart. Political kleptocracy, corruption, but at least that's smart. His political forays so far, I don't.

[Adam Curry]

Think are paying off for him.

[Unknown]

I still think it's a really good car. I think. I can't help it. I got a Tesla on my Uber app. I cancel or I let them wait outside. I know that's wrong.

[John C. Dvorak]

What a horrible person. So when he orders an Uber and it shows up, it's a Tesla, then he'll cancel because he doesn't want to be in a Tesla.

[Unknown]

But it is a good car. It's a great company. It should trade at a multiple of 50 to 100% more than the other car companies. Meaning it's a 25 or $30. So where's the benefit for him in this?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, where's the benefit? Didn't you say that it was kleptocracy so he could become even richer? And now the opposite is happening.

[Unknown]

What's the benefit kleptocracy you speak of? That's the correct question. I don't know. Fame, narcissism.

[Adam Curry]

Go red pill.

[Unknown]

Clear out, inspectors.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, it's. Now it's just fame and narcissism. Oh, okay, quick little pivot there.

[Unknown]

Pivot to me, the calculus is not smart here.

[Adam Curry]

Tesla has basically pivot that. You nailed it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

That's what they do. They just keep changing their whatever. They just pivot at the top of a hat.

[John C. Dvorak]

The calculus is wrong here. How about. And I am not an Elon Musk fan, but how about he might be sincere about it. Is it. Is it possible?

[Adam Curry]

Seems sincere to me. I don't know.

[John C. Dvorak]

Is it possible that this foreigner who became an American, that maybe he means.

[Unknown]

It, I don't know, become a brand? That means. Has some very negative brand associations. I think that too. I think people who are buying it are repulsed by it.

[John C. Dvorak]

They're repulsed. I gotta buy it. I'm throwing up. But I still have to buy it. Of course, the people who are not all.

[Adam Curry]

I'm gonna stop you. Nothing like that's going on around here in California. I'm in California. Tesla land.

[John C. Dvorak]

Interesting.

[Adam Curry]

There's nothing like that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Interesting.

[Adam Curry]

It's all out of. It's. There's been a couple of showboaters down in Southern California, some actors or some. Something down there. But I'm talking about around here, Bay Area, which is very liberal.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

There has been no discussion of the interesting. There's Tesla's all over the fucking place. Oh, I'm sorry I said that. Yeah. Why? Because I'm listening to those. Rot your brain.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's contagious.

[Adam Curry]

Tesla's all over the place and there's nobody that's got the stickers on or there's nobody painting on it. No, nothing like that's going to nobody. Nobody's torched a Tesla dealership.

[John C. Dvorak]

So of course people who do not live under a dark cloud of spiritual horridness make. Make funny. Make funny memes going on now at.

[Unknown]

The White House Tesla Auto Mall. It's the biggest sale of the year. Very safe, it's very strong, heavy. It's all steel, stainless steel. Come on down to Pennsylvania Avenue just.

[John C. Dvorak]

Off Route 29 to get our.

[Unknown]

Our best deal ever on a brand new Tesla.

[Adam Curry]

I want to make a good deal here.

[Unknown]

They have one which is $35,000, which is pretty low. Get a model one with a different panel and everything's computer. This is a different panel than I've had.

[Adam Curry]

Everything's computer.

[John C. Dvorak]

So don't waste your time going to.

[Unknown]

Those other Tesla dealerships with riots and flaming cyber trucks.

[John C. Dvorak]

You gotta come down to White House Tesla Auto Mall. I love Tesla.

[Unknown]

You gotta come down a White House Tesla Auto Mall.

[Adam Curry]

This is really amazing. I love that Tesla. So my.

[Unknown]

Ah.

[Adam Curry]

So, you know, of course Biden did the same thing with the Jeep Cherokee some years earlier.

[John C. Dvorak]

And the Corvette. And the Corvette.

[Adam Curry]

No, but he was actually promoting the Jeep. Oh, drove, drove it in. Parked in front. He actually drove it. Trump won't drive. No, I think Trump's lost his. I don't think he can drive anymore. I don't think he's driven for probably 20, 30 years.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, maybe not. Why would you. I don't like it either. I got to.

[Adam Curry]

I love driving. I'm a California boy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you are. Well, speaking of, you know, the past, this whole waste, fraud and abuse, this is nothing new. This is really nothing new. And here's a little mini cut 2008 to 2010.

[Unknown]

We simply must make the cuts in waste, fraud and abuse in Medicare. We owe it to our country. There is an enormous amount of waste.

[John C. Dvorak]

And fraud and abuse in this government. When there is waste and fraud, fraud. You have an administration who should also be on top of that situation. If we're going to eliminate the waste.

[Unknown]

Fraud and abuse in Medicare, it does.

[John C. Dvorak]

Mean we're going to cut some of that out.

[Unknown]

We want to cut the bad stuff.

[John C. Dvorak]

And keep the good stuff. Yeah, okay. But now that it's Trump Everybody, hair on fire.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. That particular clip. And more. You can probably.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, much more.

[Adam Curry]

There's much more than. There's the forklift trucks that Clinton and Gore brought out filled with the paperwork.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, Yeah, I remember.

[Adam Curry]

They're going to eliminate this. They're going to eliminate that this has been going on forever and that Trump actually is doing some things. I'm not seeing any real evidence of this either. This could be the same as the rest of them, although they're digging up more and more scummy ideas. You know, now there's a. So there 404 media came out with an interesting article about how those French universities are welcoming American researchers. We have a brain drain because the researchers are all going to France.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

So they can research their transgender stuff. And by the way, which reminds me, you know, Sean Hannity's transgender.

[John C. Dvorak]

What?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. No, well, listen to this clip and you tell me.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hold on, hold on a second. Where am I? Where am I looking?

[Adam Curry]

And there's se on S E A N. Oh, okay. The Democrats are going to, you know, show up with the little bingo paddles. They won't stand for mothers at lunch, which was embarrassing. Or a 12 year old young man.

[John C. Dvorak]

That beat his battle with cancer. What a great.

[Unknown]

Or the wife of an officer.

[Adam Curry]

All right, so they got their bingo paddles.

[John C. Dvorak]

They won't even stand for working men and women.

[Unknown]

No tax on tips. Social Security.

[John C. Dvorak]

No tax on over overtime. I used to be a working man and woman, if you will. Wow. That's right. It's obvious. Well, it seems proof. Proof Republicans love trans. There's no problem. So besides bond yields going down, besides inflation, I'll just call it ticking down. This was a somewhat hidden report that I found on npr. The deadliest phase of the fentanyl crisis appears to be over in the United States anyway.

[Unknown]

New research shows fatal overdoses from fentanyl.

[John C. Dvorak]

And other street drugs are dropping from.

[Unknown]

Their peak in all 50 states.

[John C. Dvorak]

Here's NPR's Brian Mann. When Nebarun Dasgupta's team at the University of North Carolina finished their new analysis of drug death data, they found a positive trend that seemed inconceivable a year ago.

[Unknown]

We are on track to return to levels of overdose before fentanyl emerged.

[John C. Dvorak]

Drug deaths tracked nationwide by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have already plunged 24% from peak levels. Every state has now seen improvement, with many states improving by 30, 40, even 50%. Dasgupta says the number of lives being saved left him stunned.

[Unknown]

It has been a complete shock. The numbers Declining in the way that they have been. I thought it's even hard to talk about because it's after all this time looking at overdose deaths, this is what we have been hoping for.

[John C. Dvorak]

This was not a big news story, Corey.

[Adam Curry]

No, because it makes Trump look good.

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean, I don't know if it's because of his policies, but.

[Adam Curry]

Well, it's also somebody else discussed. I've heard this being discussed in some. One point that was made is that a lot of fentanyl the people are going to die of fentanyl. Died.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, well, there's not. They're all dead. Okay.

[Adam Curry]

Well, you start, you know. Yeah, yeah. After you start killing off all your customers and you kill most of them.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

It's just the kind of. The languishing ones are still dropping dead. There's still too many dropping dead.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. But yeah, so the market is dead. Literally dead.

[Adam Curry]

Customers do not dead. Stats have to reflect the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Never made any customers. Never made any sense to me. Those guys were selling that. Well, Speaking of Hannity, RFK Jr. Was on to talk about, you know, the prices of eggs, but really about the bird flu. And it's. There's all kinds of different noise coming out of different directions. But I'm going to listen to what RFK Jr says and hope that what he is saying permeates through to Brooke, our, our Secretary of Agriculture and that people do some smart things. Let me ask you a concern. And you inherited this.

[Unknown]

President Trump inherited this.

[John C. Dvorak]

Of this is the avian flu, which is impacting the cost of, of eggs.

[Adam Curry]

And chicken in the country. What do you think needs to be.

[John C. Dvorak]

Done to eradicate that? And what do we do short term? What do we do long term? In other words, do we import eggs to import chickens? Do we, do we have to wipe out the population that might be infected by this? Oh, we. First of all, avian flu will never be eradicated. It is endemic in wild populations of birds and particularly mallards. And that's what infects the domestic flocks. And so you'll never get rid of it. And it doesn't appear to hurt wild birds. They have some kind of immunity. And the strategy, the White House, we all, all of my agencies have advised against vaccination of birds because if you vaccinate with a leaky vaccine, in other words, a vaccine that does not provide sterilizing immunity, that does not absolutely protect against the disease, you turn those flocks into mutation factories. They're generating, they're teaching the organism how to mutate and it destabilizes and it's much more likely to jump to animals if you do that. Right. All of my agency heads from nih, CDC and FDA all said we should not be vaccinating. It's dangerous for human beings to vaccinate the birds. Okay, do not vaccinate. How about stop killing them?

[Adam Curry]

The question McCullough would be in total agreement with.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. The question is, should you call those flocks? Most of our sort, scientists are against the culling operation. They think that we should be testing therapeutics on those flocks. They should isolate them. You should let the disease go through them and identify the birds that survive, which are the birds that probably have a genetic capacity, genetic inclination for immunity. And those should be the birds that we breed, like the wild population.

[Unknown]

Right.

[John C. Dvorak]

Right now, the White House's strategy is to repopulate those farms that have been depopulated. We've killed 166 million chickens. That's why we have an egg crisis. And the disease is not passed through food. So you cannot get it, as far as we know, you cannot get it from an egg or milk or meat from an infected animal. Man, someone with some sense talking. Finally, finally, last clip. What is the strategy? The White House strategy now and Brooke Rollins who runs USDA and I am all on board with this. We should armor the domestic populations to insulate them from wild infiltration. This is how these birds are getting infected. A wild mallard, most of them are in open air or open air poultry farms or mallard will fly in to eat some of the corn and that infected mallard will infect the flock. And so I think that that is the best strategy and also to intensively test therapeutic drugs on those flocks. So that for example, you put a therapy in with in half the population and of that half that is treated, it survives. Now you have a drug that potentially is useful in human beings to treat avian flu. That's what we should be doing. Okay, this sounds good. And I believe egg prices are coming down. At least that's what Carolyn Levitt tells me. Oh, it's coming down. But then try and square this report from CBS for me about an approved vaccine with of course, Dr. Celine Gounder.

[Unknown]

The U.S. department of Agriculture has issued conditional approval a bird flu vaccine for use in chickens. The vaccine from manufacturer Zoetis is one of multiple targeting bird fluid poultry. According to the USDA, avian flu has been confirmed in 146 flocks in the past month affecting more than 20 million birds. 34 million egg laying hens have been culled since December. Not all those birds necessarily tested positive for avian flu. But were members of a flock where a case was confirmed kill him? Among humans, there have been at least 68 confirmed cases of bird flu last year. According to the cdc, one person has died from the disease. Over the weekend, Ohio's health department reported the fourth case of a person being hospitalized for bird flu.

[John C. Dvorak]

So you see what they're doing. They're like that guy on on X who keeps retweeting his engagement farming us about the avian flu. Whoa. Oh, it's going to cross over into humans, John. It would cross over to humans. You know what's going to happen?

[Adam Curry]

What?

[John C. Dvorak]

Pandemic, baby.

[Unknown]

CBS News medical contributor Dr. Celine Gounder joins us on set. She's also the editor at large for public health at KFF Health News. So we've been talking about bird flu for quite a bit. I mean, is now the time when people really need to start paying attention with the number of cases that we have? I mean, those are pretty extraordinary numbers.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yes. Pay attention.

[Unknown]

I think to put this into context, it would be helpful for people to understand how a pandemic bird flu emerges.

[John C. Dvorak]

So the bird flu, have we ever had a pandemic of bird flu?

[Adam Curry]

No. Well, but this how we know how it emerges. She makes it sound like we had one.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah. It's all scary. Pay attention.

[Unknown]

People can infect birds as well as mammals, which include pigs, cattle and cats. People can get infected with the bird flu when they come into close contact with infected animals. So farm workers, for example, are at high risk for infection. At the same time, people can get infected with the regular human flu. During winter flu season, a person could get infected with both the human flu and the bird flu at the same time.

[John C. Dvorak]

And you know what? That happens. It'll mix up in your body same.

[Adam Curry]

Time they mix them up.

[Unknown]

Yeah, especially if, say, they're a farm worker or someone else who comes into close contact with infected animals. So now the flu virus is made up of eight different pieces of genetic material. When you have different flu strains infect a person or another animal at the same time, those flu strains can swap parts. And that's how you make a new hybrid flu strain. These new hybrid flu strains can be especially dangerous because now you can get the human to human spread and that can spark a pandemic.

[John C. Dvorak]

They just keep trying this over and over again again. And our CBS girl is going to put a name to it.

[Unknown]

But he's a horror movie. I mean, that is terrifying. It's Frankenstein Right. You know, that's how you get these super scary Frankenstein flus.

[John C. Dvorak]

The super scary Frankenstein flus. John, what is wrong with these people?

[Adam Curry]

This, this, this ends the minute they stop pharmaceutical advertising on television.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, you're right.

[Adam Curry]

It has to come to an end.

[John C. Dvorak]

You're right.

[Adam Curry]

They're starting to advertise the weirdest stuff now because you can tell they're panicking.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And I mean, there's stuff that being advertised that just basically at the end they say, and by the way, if you take this drug, it will kill you.

[John C. Dvorak]

Side effect is death.

[Adam Curry]

They, this has got to end. Because this is what the influence comes from. This is where it comes from.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

The pharmaceutical influence comes from the fact that they own the media.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. They have to do these reports. It's part of the deal. Part of the contract. Contract. And of course, they're still on the measles, you know, which is all connected to RFK Jr. And, well, autism. This is the Mennonites, you know, it's all the Mennonites fault. The Mennonites.

[Adam Curry]

Those bastards.

[John C. Dvorak]

And I heard from the oil barrels.

[Adam Curry]

You can cuss out the Mennonites. And they're not hearing it because they don't listen to the radio.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, they do. Or the podcast. They're not Amish. Amish.

[Adam Curry]

Well, they pretty much.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, no. In fact, I heard from the oil baron. He says if you want hard working people, you want the Mennonites. And they make great furniture.

[Adam Curry]

So the Amish.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, but I don't think the Mennonites. Well, here CNN had a report on the Mennonites who, as you know, are to blame for all of this. The epicenter of the measles outbreak is rural Gaines County.

[Unknown]

Why here?

[John C. Dvorak]

Why a British guy in rural Gaines County? I don't understand. Understand.

[Adam Curry]

But okay, why am I shouting?

[Unknown]

Why now?

[John C. Dvorak]

Is this coming from the Mennonite community?

[Unknown]

That's the biggest cohort of the population that is unvaccinated. And so the predominant people that are we're seeing with it are in the Mennonite community. But it's not only them.

[John C. Dvorak]

The Mennonites are Anabaptists who farmed around here in the 1970s.

[Unknown]

Tina Siemens runs a museum. It literally goes Back to the 50s back in Germany, charting her people's centuries.

[John C. Dvorak]

Long flight from religious persecution and their time here in Texas. She's now translating health department offers of vaccines.

[Unknown]

No one will be turned away if they cannot meet the payment.

[John C. Dvorak]

But that's falling on some deaf ears. Older Mennonites like Tina had to get the vaccine to get American citizenship after immigration. But now the younger generation is choosing.

[Unknown]

Not to vaccinate because they have the capability of educating themselves.

[John C. Dvorak]

So this is not a blind religious belief. This is an educated. Whether it's right or wrong. This is an educated choice.

[Unknown]

Absolutely. But is in line with centuries of.

[John C. Dvorak]

Mennonite tradition, self sufficiency.

[Unknown]

They have been self sufficient sustaining. They did not go to the local doctor for everything because they had a home remedy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Exactly. It's not a, it's not even a religious thing. They just oh, it's Mennonites. Oh, must be crazy. Christian Baptist nationalists, white Nazis, Trump lovers, Christian national. They're no good. They're no good. She feels her people are being scapegoated while others around here also refuse the vaccine. Across Gaines County More than 17% of.

[Unknown]

Kids in public schools have a so.

[John C. Dvorak]

Called conscientious exemption so don't need to be vaccinated. That's according to the latest state figures and is among the highest in the.

[Adam Curry]

State which is just one of 16.

[John C. Dvorak]

States that allows that there are hesitants among the non Mennonites.

[Unknown]

I think Covid did bring a lot of distrust to the public and it certainly didn't help us with already why people having distrust of the health care.

[Adam Curry]

System because they lied.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, probably. So this of course has to be a parade. We have to have. We have to come back and say no, no, no, no, no, no, no vaccines are good. And you know what? They do not cause vaccines. They do not, do not cause autism. I don't care what you say, they cannot be responsible for autism. And if anyone knows this for sure, it's Hotep.

[Unknown]

Joining us now, Dr. Peter Hotez, Director of the center for Vaccine Development at Children's Hospital. Dr. So good to see you. False claims that vaccines autism aren't.

[Adam Curry]

You know this guy, hold on. This guy reminds me as he's getting, he's getting. It's like it's effect, you know his. I don't know if you want to. If he's overtly lying. He knows he's lying. I don't know what he's up to but he's. He's just, he's disfiguring himself. He's starting to look like the in the first Men in Black or D'Nofrio because inherited a bug got into him and became, he became the bug. He's all remember weird looking. That's what this guy's slowing, slowly turning into. He's looking weirder and weirder.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. And his head will split Open and the bug comes out.

[Adam Curry]

The bug come out.

[John C. Dvorak]

As long as we catch it on video, it's okay with me. I was talking to Joe about him because I think Joe had him on the show. We must have missed that. That and Joe's like, this guy is the most unhealthy. He eats crap, eats fast food. He's grossly overweight, which you can't see because he's always sitting down. Yet this is the guy that's going to tell us that to be healthy you need a shot. But whatever. Whatever you think, I don't care what it is. It's not vaccines that cause autism.

[Unknown]

Doctor, so good to see you. False claims that vaccines are linked to autism aren't new. This is debunked years ago. Debunked 2018, you published a book about your own daughter Rachel's autism debunking this link. Do you see any value in the CDC looking into this? Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

So wait, wait, stop. His daughter Rachel has autism?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yep.

[Adam Curry]

And that somehow debunks? Yes, because, you know, she was shot up like no. Like no tomorrow.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah. Well, wait until you hear his explanation of what it really is. I mean, what do you think it could be? Where did. We've had an incredible increase in autism. Of course, correlation is not causation, but it did kind of happen with the increase of childhood vaccines. The schedule up to 79.

[Adam Curry]

Like five or six to 80.

[John C. Dvorak]

70. I think it's 70.

[Adam Curry]

I think it's 85.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay. I'm not going to argue about your.

[Unknown]

Own daughter Rachel's autism debunking this link. Do you see any value in the CDC looking into this right now? Could it perhaps put conspiracies to bed?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, we can't have a governmental health organization looking into this now. It's been debunked. Don't waste your resources.

[Unknown]

No, I don't really see a positive sign, positive reason for doing this. Anna, we've got three very strong convergent.

[Adam Curry]

Lines of evidence that there's zero link.

[Unknown]

Between vaccines and autism. First, we have actual data from all of the different assertions. Whether they claimed it was MMR vaccine back in the late 1990s or when RFK Jr claimed it was thimerosal preservative.

[Adam Curry]

That's in vaccine. All of those studies we have in.

[Unknown]

The open access, published literature, large epidemiologic.

[Adam Curry]

Studies, thousands of kids, 0.1, 0.2, lack of plausibility. We have now more than 100 autism.

[Unknown]

Genes that have been identified. Autism represents processes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Did I just Hear him say autism genes. I've never heard of this.

[Adam Curry]

He said a hundred of them too.

[John C. Dvorak]

So there's. You can actually have genes that contain autism, huh, that occur in early fetal.

[Unknown]

Brain development well before kids ever, ever see vaccines. So if there's any environmental influence, it's.

[Adam Curry]

Around the time of conception or in.

[Unknown]

The first trimester of pregnancy.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's during conception. Oh, you've got autism. Genesis, man, you know, this calls for eugenics, I think.

[Adam Curry]

Third, more recently we have brain assembloid and brain organoid studies, really mini brains.

[Unknown]

In the test tube using neurons with autism genes. So they all point to the same.

[Adam Curry]

Thing, the genetic basis of autism.

[John C. Dvorak]

Genetic basis of. So he's going to tell us that since the 90s, early mid-80s, that all of a sudden something happened with our genetic code, code in particular in the United States that soared the autism rates because we're all humping each other and spreading our, our autism genes. This, you're right. This guy has been taken over by a gruesome bug.

[Unknown]

So do you believe, though, more research is needed into what causes autism? Could that be a good use of resources? Oh, absolutely. You know where I am at Baylor College of Medicine, we have an extraordinary neurological research institute. The details of the genetics of autism.

[Adam Curry]

How the autism genes interact.

[Unknown]

Other universities across the country are looking into that. So there's always more to learn.

[Adam Curry]

In fact, there are some environmental triggers that occur in early pregnancy that interact with autism genes. For instance, if a pregnant woman doesn't realize they're on the time of conception.

[John C. Dvorak]

That she's pregnant, is on an anti.

[Adam Curry]

Seizure medicine called Depakoter, also known as.

[Unknown]

Valproic acid, that can cause the newborn.

[Adam Curry]

Infant to ultimately go on to have an autism phenotype because it's interacting with the autism genes.

[John C. Dvorak]

We need more of those kinds of.

[Adam Curry]

Studies and actually said that directly to.

[Unknown]

RFK Jr many years ago, but I couldn't engage him on it. So there's a lot more to do. But to waste taxpayer dollars and time and energy, this scientific community around vaccines is just a fruitless endeavor.

[John C. Dvorak]

Just a fruitless endeavor. It's genetic. Don't you understand that people, it's genetic. That's why only one of your kids has it and not the other two. It's crazy. It's just genetic. You know, they're going to come up with an MRNA to solve autism.

[Adam Curry]

That would be, that would be ideal. Which brings me to my Covid life insurance clip.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh boy. Okay, here we go.

[Adam Curry]

So in France, there was an elderly, wealthy businessman who got out life insurance for millions of dollars, he got the COVID vaccine and he died.

[Unknown]

So the life insurance company is not.

[Adam Curry]

Paying out because they decided that the COVID vaccine is a medical experiment and.

[Unknown]

Death from a medical experiment is not a covered entity.

[John C. Dvorak]

Furthermore, even the judge says that the.

[Unknown]

Side effects from the vaccine. Vaccine are well known.

[Adam Curry]

They've been made public. There's absolutely no way that this gentleman.

[Unknown]

Could not have known the side effects.

[Adam Curry]

He willingly chose to get the vaccine and he died as a result. And because it was a choice, they're.

[John C. Dvorak]

Calling it a suicide.

[Adam Curry]

And suicides along with death from experimental.

[Unknown]

Drugs are not covered in life insurance.

[Adam Curry]

So I know what you're thinking, oh, that happened in France. That would never happen in the U.S. well, I'm sorry to tell you, but.

[Unknown]

The American Life Insurance Council has also said that life insurance policies may deny.

[Adam Curry]

Payment if you die from the COVID 19 vaccine because they are experimental drugs. There you go. This is something we thought might happen.

[Unknown]

We're seeing it happen. You might want to check your policy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Ah, well, that then brings me to my Luigi clip because if you're going to do this with people, people are going to strike back. They're going to strike back at insurance companies and perhaps even pharma executives. To the FBI joining the investigation into.

[Unknown]

A suspected arson at the home of.

[John C. Dvorak]

A Bayer pharmaceutical executive. It follows the murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO in December. Our chief investigative correspondent Erin Katerski is here with more for us.

[Adam Curry]

Good morning.

[Unknown]

Good morning, Michael. It was 7:30 the morning of March 4th when the new Jersey home of a Bayer executive caught fire. People were inside at the time, but the fire thankfully was put out. Nobody was hurt. Bayer said the family, which the company is not going to identify, is safe and unharmed.

[Adam Curry]

But as you say, the FBI and.

[Unknown]

A number of other laws enforcement agencies are now investigating whether this was arson. Bayer said it's cooperating with that investigation and so far, Morris county prosecutors say there have been no arrests. This is a time of heightened concern about safety and security in the health care industry. Officials worry the December assassination style killing of United Healthcare Chief Brian Thompson is inspiring threats and plots against executives in.

[Adam Curry]

The industry and beyond.

[Unknown]

In fact, a Homeland Security report obtained by ABC News said individuals driven by financial grievances are taking Thompson's murder as inspiration for making threats against government and public safety officials, particularly if they're perceived as contributing to economic strain. Authorities noticed one rather alarming post saying these officials and executives deserve to be Luigi. A reference to Luigi Mangione, the young.

[Adam Curry]

Maryland man charged in Thompson's murder.

[John C. Dvorak]

Murder, yeah. Luigi.

[Adam Curry]

Luigi.

[John C. Dvorak]

Luigi.

[Adam Curry]

Maybe a good show Tal. If you could spell it.

[John C. Dvorak]

I have no idea how you'd spell Luigi.

[Adam Curry]

It wouldn't.

[John C. Dvorak]

It was kind of. Luigi. It was kind of interesting that the senator from Louisiana, Cassidy, he had the famous Dr. J. Bhattacharya on the witness stand, which of course is all showboating because that's what that's always about. Just going back to the danger of vaccines and autism. Isn't he the guy that a lot of people loved during the pandemic because he was against lockdowns, mass mandates, et cetera?

[Adam Curry]

I don't remember that guy's name.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I think a lot of people really, really love listening to him. And when I weed. Weed. When I read Wikipedia. Hey, man, when I read the Wikipedia, if it starts off with Jayanta Bhattacharya, who holds a medical degree but never completed residency, then I kind of think that people hate him. So here's some clips of him about vaccines and autism.

[Unknown]

I've been told you have said that we need to invest NIH resources at looking at the link, a possible link.

[John C. Dvorak]

Between measles vaccine and autism.

[Unknown]

I've not heard that directly. It's hearsay. Any comment on that, Senator? It's a tragedy that a child would die from a vaccine preventable disease. I fully support children being vaccinated for diseases like measles that can be prevented with the vaccination efforts. As far as research on autism and vaccines, I. I don't generally believe that.

[John C. Dvorak]

There is a link based on my.

[Unknown]

Reading of the literature, but what I have seen is that there's tremendous distrust in medicine and science coming out of the pandemic. And we do have, as you know, Senator, a sharp rise in autism rates in this country. And I don't know, and I don't think any scientist really knows the cause of it. So I would support an agenda of a broad agenda, broad scientific agenda based on data.

[John C. Dvorak]

To get an answer to that, I have an interesting test we could do. What are the autism rates amongst the Mennonites?

[Adam Curry]

We already know the answer to that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Probably zero. So what is your strategy?

[Unknown]

Do you have an idea, an agenda that would once more, by golly, once more prove that measles vaccine is not associated with autism.

[John C. Dvorak]

The.

[Unknown]

The schedule, the vaccine, or anything else associated with it. Because my concern is the more we pretend like this is an issue, the more we will have children dying from vaccine preventable diseases.

[John C. Dvorak]

Senator, I guess I've turned it around.

[Unknown]

And say I don't want to disprove a negative. That's almost. That's impossible, really. But I want to address the rise in autism.

[John C. Dvorak]

That.

[Unknown]

I accept that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Did you say something? No, it was in the clip. I thought someone said, hey, stop the rise in autism.

[Unknown]

I accept that.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think that's laudable. We need to do that.

[Unknown]

Yeah, that's a positive. But I'm asking the specific question. Well, we once more have to go back over this particular issue because that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Has been exhaustively studied.

[Unknown]

Yeah, I mean, I think. As I said, Senator, I don't think.

[John C. Dvorak]

That there's a link between, you know.

[Unknown]

The MMR vaccine and autism. I'm convinced, based on that literature.

[John C. Dvorak]

Notice he's saying just MMR vaccine.

[Unknown]

The only reason I'm not wholeheartedly saying.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes to your question, which every instinct.

[Unknown]

Of mine is to do that, is that there are people who might disagree with me.

[John C. Dvorak]

I want to make sure.

[Unknown]

But that's life.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

I mean, there's people who disagree that.

[John C. Dvorak]

The world is round. Hey.

[Unknown]

And I say that not to minimize these concerns.

[Adam Curry]

Please.

[Unknown]

But people still think Elvis is alive.

[John C. Dvorak]

He's not crazy. Last clip is short.

[Unknown]

At what end point?

[John C. Dvorak]

We say we've got good data because, I mean, I'm convinced that we have.

[Unknown]

Good data on mmr, but if other people don't agree with me and then they don't vaccinate their children, I think I don't. As if I'm confirmed as NIH director. The one lever I'll have is to give them good data. That's really the lever I'd have. But that good data already exists. You're a scientist. And I accept that.

[John C. Dvorak]

It seems more an endorsement.

[Unknown]

Dr. Jim, with an appropriate allocation of current dollars would be a better way to spend precious, limited federal dollars.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right, so I guess it's off the table. Bhattachara isn't in on it. He doesn't feel like there's any link again. I think we just go study the Mennonites and the.

[Adam Curry]

They already did. The Mennonites have been studied. They have no incidence of autism.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, maybe we should just all become Mennonites then.

[Adam Curry]

Adai, we had that clip.

[John C. Dvorak]

I thought we played that clip before Mennonites autism.

[Adam Curry]

I don't know, but no, I don't think so. I think Kennedy has brought it up.

[Unknown]

No.

[Adam Curry]

What else have we got here on our list?

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know. I'm sure you've got.

[Adam Curry]

We got the ccp, cyber attacks. I should talk about some of these. Hey, there's a big Stink about the Snow White movie in England.

[John C. Dvorak]

Really? I thought everyone already hated it here.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, well, this is the b. This is the BBC World World Service, which is. You get on the short wave.

[John C. Dvorak]

Y.

[Adam Curry]

Short wave run. And I picked it up.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

It's also online, of course, and this. I just think it's interesting because how do you get into this mess? How does Disney find a way to foul up stuff like this?

[John C. Dvorak]

A Disney premiere is usually a big deal.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, by the way, stop.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

That's when they said Disney premiere. This is when you. You had this problem saying premiere. Yes, the premiere of Canada. You kept saying premiere because you lived in England and this word is premier. It's in your brain. Premier.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's a premiere and it's a gala. Not a gala. It's a premiere and it's aluminium. At the premiere. At the gala.

[Unknown]

A Disney premiere is usually a big deal.

[John C. Dvorak]

But the launch of the remake of the classic Snow White is reportedly likely being scaled back after a series of controversies. Controversies?

[Unknown]

The Israeli actor Gal Gadot, who plays the evil queen in the new movie.

[John C. Dvorak]

Has been an outspoken supporter of Israel during its war in Gaza, while Rachel Zegler, who's of Colombian and Polish descent, supports a free Palestine on social media.

[Unknown]

But that's not the only issue, as the people.

[John C. Dvorak]

ABC's culture reporter Stephen McIntosh explains. I can't. I mean, what. What could possibly be wrong with Snow White except that she's black? Is that the problem? Are they racist?

[Adam Curry]

Colombia, this woman, okay, she's brown, quite pretty. The Snow White that they're using, are.

[John C. Dvorak]

They racist in Britain? What is their problem with Snow White?

[Adam Curry]

The problem is really between. The two actresses have gotten into a feud over the Israeli. I mean, for one thing, if I'm Disney, I'm. I'm the producer. I don't know, maybe I should talk to Brunetti about this, how this works. What did the actors wag it? Where the actors. The detail. Wagging the dog. I mean, these people should just shut up, do their job and get out of there. I mean, it turns out that this, the actress playing Snow White, demanded to get the romance out of the story.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, I think, you know, I know in the record business, but I'm pretty sure it's the same with movies now. And Brunetti can confirm or deny that you can't be. Be a recording artist or an actor unless you have an enormous following on the socials. I mean, even Woody Harrelson, who barely knows how to operate a phone, he, you know, for his new movie, he had to have an a TikTok account. The studio demands it. So of course Woody Harrelson is crazy and so he'll put all kinds of nut job stuff on there.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, he is. He's got the dementia from the pot, from the weed.

[John C. Dvorak]

So you get what you deserve.

[Unknown]

It started actually right at the beginning with Rachel Zegler's casting as Snow White. She is a big star. She was in Steven Spielberg's west side Story, but she's a Latina actress, she's Colombian American, so she was cast in a role that was previously in the animated version, a white character. And very often when we see this kind of controversy before, when a role like that is recast with maybe a more diverse actor or actress, there's a bit of a backlash. It then became a bigger story about what Rachel Zegler attitude was towards the original source material. So she said in the original one there was too much focus on the love story, too much reliance on the prince character. She had this quote where she said that the prince in the original film kind of stalks Snow White. And she basically said that the new Snow White was going to be different. And some people thought that was a little bit insulting towards the original source material. There was a rumoured feud behind the scenes between Rachel Zegler and her co star Gal Gadot, who plays the evil stepmother. They have opposing views on the Israel Palestine conflict. And then finally, possibly the biggest controversy was the dwarfism. Peter Dinklage, the actor from Game of Thrones, came out and said that it was a bit backwards, as he put it, to be remaking Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs at all. He's always been a champion for the idea that if you're going to cast an actual with dwarfism, that shouldn't be their primary character trait. There's all these controversies that have been kind of been rumbling around over the last few years while this film's been in production the last year and a half, since, of course, October 7th. It's been a bit difficult for studios trying to navigate this because obviously Gal Gadot's a very well respected actress. They would have wanted to cast her. She's a big name. Equally, a lot of the actors and actresses involved in these kinds of films have their own personal political views on the conflict. There's kind of been a few cryptic tweets posted by Rachel Zegler and Gal Gadot about the conflict, but it's not necessarily clear if they really are at odds with one another and if this really was a rupture behind the scenes or if the Fans are just kind of speculating that there might have been a behind the scenes fallout.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, Hollywood has lost its ever loving mind, that's for sure.

[Adam Curry]

So. Oh, they're doing a movie with seven dwarfs. Right away you have an issue if you're going to start doing live action with the. With people. This is idiotic.

[John C. Dvorak]

Notice how they call it original source material instead of the story.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, the story.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now it's original source material.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, let's take the prince out of it because a stalker is a creep and let's change it from a romance. And these dwarfs, what are they? What's the point of them? Get them out. So basically it's just a. What?

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know. Yeah. Yes. Another movie I don't have no desire to watch. No, thank you.

[Adam Curry]

You saw the Broadway play and enjoyed it?

[John C. Dvorak]

I did, but you know, it was with my daughter Christina, and they had the special wicked alcoholic beverages and we were pretty smashed. We were just drinking, like. Oh, this is a great. This is great. They're singing. It's awesome. They're singing. Man, Bernetti's gonna rue the day that he didn't listen to me.

[Adam Curry]

What'd you tell him?

[John C. Dvorak]

I told him he should. He should use me and you to get in on the Christian movie wave. Oh, he knows all about that because mgm. Mgm, now Amazon, they have a huge hit on their hands with House of David.

[Adam Curry]

I'm not gonna watch it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, it's re. It's gory. It's really well done. You want to see heads getting chopp? It's good. You're gonna watch it. You'll like it when I watch it. You don't like anything. What am I saying?

[Adam Curry]

Just like I. Okay, stop. I have to say, I really like the Diplomat.

[Unknown]

What?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Recommended by you.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it's good. It's a good show.

[Adam Curry]

It's a lesbian undertones. I mean, the whole thing. There's like this married couple with no children.

[John C. Dvorak]

Lesbians all always says box office smash.

[Adam Curry]

Well, you know, I have to say that they definitely nailed it. And it's a terrific pacing and the, the, the. The teasers at the end of each episode of Dynamite. It's just a terrific. And it's the. Of course, it's typical of anything decent. They can't produce enough copies. So they did, what, eight episodes for season one, six episodes for season two? Come on.

[John C. Dvorak]

They ran out of time.

[Adam Curry]

It's not even one whole season and it's already on to season three.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

What? Where's the people that used to produce the Sid Caesar show, which was live comedy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, but we didn't have sets. It didn't have the White House as a set or the hour and a.

[Adam Curry]

Half of Broadway quality comedy every week for 30 plus weeks.

[John C. Dvorak]

Bring back Sid Caesar. Okay, Boomer moment, everybody. There you go.

[Adam Curry]

I'm just, just mean to me. When I was a kid, a season was like 35, 36 episodes. And they go on a hiatus for, you know, 20 weeks. But it was like, now it's like they do 12 episodes. Oh, God, we're so overworked. We don't know what to do. We gotta take some time off. And in this show, they don't even do that much work. They do, what, eight and then six.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, John, and. And that was your Boomer update. People are calling me.

[Adam Curry]

Ready for that? Well, you get that. You put that. Get that button ready. Put it on the regular button.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

Rotation, because I'm going to give you a lot of Boomer.

[John C. Dvorak]

I have. I have a number.

[Adam Curry]

I'm complaining.

[John C. Dvorak]

We got a number of them. Check out my new Harley, baby. Yeah, baby. One, two, three. Boomers. Yeah. I'm now be called a boomer everywhere. I mean, that whole thread. F you, Boomer.

[Adam Curry]

Like, I saw that.

[John C. Dvorak]

How ins.

[Adam Curry]

I saw you being called a boomer.

[John C. Dvorak]

So insulting.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I got an why is it insulting? So what? Who cares?

[John C. Dvorak]

Because I'm not. I am the face of generation X. They grew up with me.

[Adam Curry]

Mr. Vain here.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm so vain. You probably think this song is about you.

[Adam Curry]

Please. And make it take. You heard him. You heard him.

[John C. Dvorak]

You have an Ask Adam. Seriously.

[Adam Curry]

I do have an Ask Adam. This is about the. This is a plug for a podcast, a science podcast that NPR does, and they drop a little bomb here at the end, literally. And I'm going to ask you about it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, first we'll. We'll play the clip and then we'll play the jingle.

[Unknown]

This month, Short Shortwave is featuring a science and dog collab for the ages. Because sometimes scientists need help and have to call in dogs to get the research done. Their powerful noses have earned some of them a job as conservation detection dogs, helping biologists sniff out things that are hidden or hard to find, like whale poop in the ocean.

[John C. Dvorak]

Ask Adam.

[Unknown]

Ask Adam. Will he know or will he won't?

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know, but here we go.

[Adam Curry]

Answer the question.

[Unknown]

Go.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right, I'm ready for the question.

[Adam Curry]

That was the question. It was right at the end. Dogs can sense whale poop in the ocean. Does a dog can a dog smell in the ocean? Because he do what? You throw the dog in the water and you say, oh, there's whale poop here. How do they find it? Do they sit. Sit next to the whale poop and wag their tail and bark? What do they do? How's a dog find whale poop in the ocean?

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, so you not being the biologist that I am, the boomer biologist. Whale poop floats to the surface so the dog can sniff it on the surface of the ocean. You've never swam in whale poop before? I'm surprised.

[Adam Curry]

Dog sniffs. What's the dog in the ocean? What's the dog doing in the ocean?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, the dog is standing on the shore and he's. He's on a boat. He has a boat. He's got. He. He's got a speedboat.

[Adam Curry]

You know this for a fact?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, of course not. Why would I know? It's like I don't even know. I'm not even worried about the half court business. This is you just going crazy. You're disagreeing with media reports that are insane to begin with.

[Adam Curry]

Well, if we're going to go there, I have another one, please. This is the WTF clip of the day. This is my A story about the DC budget because Congress is, you know, they're taking money away from here. There's. And the other. And this report comes out and there's a logical inconsistency here. See if you can spot it.

[Unknown]

The House of Representatives passed a funding measure last night that, among other things, would cut over $1 billion in DC's budget. WAMU's Jackson Sinnenberg has more. The House's funding package, called a continuing resolution, or CR, would keep government spending at 2024 levels through September. The CR also took aim at DC's budget and restricted its spending to 2024 levels, even though the District has been operating on a new 2025 budget for six months. Mayor Muriel Bowser called the possible cuts a $1.1 billion mistake. That number is around 16% of DC's budget. On the House floor Tuesday, Representative Eleanor Holmes Norton explained the impact of the budget cuts. This cut will likely force DC to immediately terminate programs that delay, lay off or furlough police officers, firefighters, other first responders, and teachers. She also highlighted how the funding cut appears to roll back DC's financial independence. This cut does not save the federal government any money because DC's local budget consists entirely of locally raised revenues such as taxes and fees.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, okay. So the budget cuts won't affect DC's budget because of taxes and fees. Yet it's terrible. It's this.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's Norton. That old. I don't want to be. I don't want to say what I was thinking, but she.

[Adam Curry]

Well, you're going to say lesbian.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I just. She. No, she needs to.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, that's what you're going to say.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no. I don't know if she's a lesbian, but I met her and I was not impressed. I didn't like her at all. That was during the Affordable Care act, which she was ramming through. She was. She was a big leader in all that Obamacare. So I just don't like her in general. And she also has no vote.

[Adam Curry]

I know, it's a joke.

[John C. Dvorak]

She just gets to sit there and harp. Speaking of. I don't know about you, but I got a lot of notes from Canadians and. Which does, first of all, makes you.

[Adam Curry]

I did, too. I got a lot of notes from Canadians. The Canadians, they're all jacked up about Carney. Of course, this guy wasn't. This guy's, you know, he's never been elected to anything. Well, I like the banker they put in place.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's funny, because I got other notes. I think people think they're emailing you, but they email me and they're mad at me. Well, at us, I guess, you know, because we're like. Oh, you know, a lot of Canadians, they like this 51st state idea. Whoa, talk about a third rail. We don't want to be a 51st state. Yeah, yeah, we want, baby. We got money.

[Adam Curry]

I got a notes from some Canadians and they agreed, saying that Canada not only doesn't want to be a 51st state, but they shouldn't be. They said. One guy said, you know, you're just going to get a bunch of more Democrat voters because they're the worst. Well, you don't want Canada in the United States.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, the main. The main note I got was about the tariffs on dairy, and I think there was some correct information here. They said, you know, when it comes to your milk, the tariffs only kick in above a certain quota. But then every single one. Let me see if I can get a good example. Every single one of them said, we don't want your milk. It's gross, it's horrible. It's filled with crap. We don't want your milk. The only thing we might want is some of that cheese from where, Wisconsin? Yeah. You didn't get those.

[Adam Curry]

California makes good cheese, too.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let me see. The reason why us Canadians Protect our dairies because American milk is effing gross. It's full of chemicals, hormones, antibiotic and nonsense. Modern America is synonymous with cutting corners these days it seems due to late stage capitalism. Plus Americans feed chicken to cows.

[Adam Curry]

Communists that wrote you there.

[John C. Dvorak]

This Canadian capitalist Canadian. Plus Americans feed chicken shit to cows. This is why you have bird flu in your cattle and Canada doesn't. Our food laws are vastly more stringent and most of our food isn't poisoned due to the fact our health care is socialized. It is our best interest to keep people healthy to cost to cost the country as little as possible. We got slapped with mad cow back in the day and we banned feeding any animal byproducts. Animals produce pretty much. And so this person was done it.

[Adam Curry]

With a Canadian accent.

[John C. Dvorak]

Do we want guns? Eh, sure do. I want American style freedom. I can't do a Canadian. Sure I wouldn't mind becoming American for the right reasons, but this Trump shit has got to stop. Canada did nothing wrong except agreed to a trade deal that Trump designed. We do have tariffs on American dairy, but they only kick in after a certain dollar value which has never been raged. Canadians do not want American dairy dairy because all we know is it's garbage. So I actually this is a nice guy who I emailed back and I said, you know, you should want to be our 51st state so you could teach us how to make better dairy and we'd give you guns. And he agreed. He said yeah, that'd be kind of a cool deal. They just came out with a new, a new gun thing. There's a, there's a new gun restriction in Canada. They must be worried about something. But I think Canada is just too diverse. You know, you can't say Canada is like, you know, America. We're kind of the same, we have our differences, but you got the French Canadians, you got the Canadians on the east coast, Canadians on the. It's very, very different. So do we want them? I mean President Trump is.

[Adam Curry]

No, we don't want the Canadians.

[John C. Dvorak]

President Trump keeps saying it.

[Adam Curry]

He just says it to gall them. He knows it gets attention. What we really want is gre. I think that's serious.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, Greenland is a possibility. After the results of the vote, late.

[Unknown]

Night celebrations at the Democratic Party headquarters in Nuuk, Greenland, the center right opposition party took a surprise first place in the general election, garnering almost 30% of the vote compared to 9% in 2021.

[Adam Curry]

I'm overwhelmed and I'm very, very very happy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Very happy.

[Unknown]

The the party is Known for its pro business policies and for backing a long and gradual process towards Greenland's independence. In second place, the Nalaroc party who campaigned on a promise of rapid independence from Denmark, doubled their share of the vote to nearly 25%. We have to be able to cooperate with other parties as well. And I do believe as we have seen for now, people want change. People are mostly not voting to for what have been. So no matter what kind of government that's created tomorrow, I do hope solemnly that it will be for the better and for a change that people want to see. The Inuit, Atakajijit and Suyumit parties who make up the current ruling coalition saw a significant drop in support coming in third and fourth respectively. The two parties have dominated politics on the island in recent years. The Democratic Party must now look to other parties to form a majority in the 31 seat parliament. The government that is formed is expected to map out a path to independence. The US President's efforts to acquire the mineral rich territory shown an international spotlight on the elections. And election officials in the capital Nuuk had to keep polling stations open longer to accommodate the large voter turnout. Though independence was not on the ballot, it was was on voters minds. A majority of Greenlanders and four out of the five parties running support independence. Though there is plenty of disagreement on what a break with Denmark would look like.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I think this is interesting. This was kind of unexpected according to the insiders. Yeah, they didn't expect the center right to, to actually take this one. How many people are in there? 56,000 live in Greenland.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. Some 50.

[John C. Dvorak]

How about this? How about this? We are we're going to give you all a Tesla cybertruck.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I don't know about that. I don't know how their electricity is doing there. But I would say if you say we're going to give each one of you 100,000 bucks cash, 1,000 bucks tomorrow.

[John C. Dvorak]

A thousand bucks.

[Adam Curry]

100,000.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, 100,000. Oh, that changes it. And you become American. So you get your master baga hat.

[Adam Curry]

You get your gun and you got a hundred thousand in cash.

[John C. Dvorak]

Right? A stable coin or stock? Stable coin. Stable coin. You get some stable coin.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, well you might as well. I mean come on, you might as well see if you can rip them off. That's the American way.

[John C. Dvorak]

But if we do have a backup plan for minerals, apparently we're close to maybe even talking to the Congo.

[Unknown]

Well, the US says that it is open to exploring a potential partnership with Dr. Congo to gain access to the country's critical minerals. Kinshasa pitched the deal to Washington in the hope of winning diplomatic support as Rwanda backed M23 rebels continue to consolidate their hold over key parts of the east of Dr. Congo. Emmett Livingston's in Kinshasa. He tells us more. The Congolese government is offering a deal on critical minerals such as cobalt and lithium to the Trump administration, hoping for diplomatic support against M23 rebels and Rwanda. Since January, M23 and Rwandan forces have captured eastern Congo's two largest cities. But the diplomatic response has been largely symbolic. Congo's army in the east can no longer fight back. It's mostly been destroyed or run away. Congolese President Felix Tshisekedi is now trying to leverage his country's enormous mineral wealth in order to win American support. Tshisekedi confirmed that he was seeking a minerals deal last month, and his spokeswoman recently told us that discussions were advancing, but without commenting on the details. Congo has the world's largest reserves of cobalt, a metal used to manufacture batteries. It also has massive reserves of copper and lithium. The Congolese presidency says the US Administration is considering its proposal seriously, an account that the U.S. state Department also recently confirmed. But it's not clear how a deal might work. Most of the important mining sites are owned already, for the most part, by Chinese. Chinese companies. And despite years of trying to court American business, Congo still struggles with a reputation of being deeply corrupt and a risky place to invest.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's our kind of place.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Deeply corrupt, risky to invest. This is. This is us. This is what we like. Give those people some stablecoin. You're good to go. Yeah. The Chinese, though, they won't be happy with it.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, but they bail out pretty quickly. If you remember the one. One thing that always kind of sticks in my mind is if you remember the Chinese were moving into Libya.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah, they hit the high road real quick when we came in and started.

[Adam Curry]

All of a sudden we got to get rid of Gaddafi for some unknown reason. Well, because of the coin, possibly. But it was a NATO operation. NATO's being the defensive operation that it is. Had to go on the offensive, attack Libya.

[John C. Dvorak]

NATO, NATO.

[Adam Curry]

That was the Hillary Clinton op.

[John C. Dvorak]

That was a Clinton op. Yeah, it was a total cl.

[Adam Curry]

And so they go in there and there's a Chinese developing there and they all bailed out. They left a bunch of property just sitting there. They just ran for the hills. Chinese seem to do that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Do you remember when Gaddafi came to the UN in New York and Trump let him set up his yurt in his on his lawn.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, he set up tent city.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it was great.

[Adam Curry]

On one of Trump's properties.

[John C. Dvorak]

That was good times, man. Back in the day when everyone was just kind of cool, you know. Now we're all so mad about everything. Social media, you know, when actually I have the clip here, I was, you know, I was kind of happy when I heard this report.

[Unknown]

You might have noticed yesterday that Elon Musk was down for a while. It's pretty annoying.

[John C. Dvorak]

I was trying to use it to.

[Unknown]

Prepare for the show. Here's Musk on Kudlow show discussing the situation. There was a cyber attack on X.

[John C. Dvorak]

Today which shut it down and may have been foreign sourced. Yeah, it's a big story. You want to give us a moment on that? Well, we don't, we're not sure exactly what happened, but there was a massive.

[Unknown]

Cyber attack to try to bring down.

[John C. Dvorak]

The EX system with IP addresses originating.

[Adam Curry]

In the Ukraine area. Oh, well, so that's your suspicion.

[John C. Dvorak]

Is the website, is the Internet up? Is it up yet? It's up. It's okay. Good.

[Adam Curry]

Earlier in the day, the following there.

[Unknown]

Was still is a massive cyber attack against X. We get attacked every day, but this was done with a lot of resources. Either a large coordinated group and or.

[John C. Dvorak]

A country is involved.

[Unknown]

According to a telegram post, though, pro Palestinian cyber hacking group Dark Storm Team took credit for the attack. Also, cyber attackers sometimes use fake or inaccurate IP addresses to make them harder to accurate, meaning that the attackers might not have been in Ukraine.

[Adam Curry]

Tesla's shares also fell by more than.

[Unknown]

15% yesterday, which was the lowest since before election day.

[Adam Curry]

There have also been protests around the.

[Unknown]

Country and in Europe against Musk and Tesla. Police say there have been instances of vandalism, arson and gunshots.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, you know, I'd be fine, I'd be fine if all social media got DDoS. Just take it all down. People would know what to do. They'd be walking outside like zombies, like, what is this?

[Adam Curry]

They're looking at their phones. Where's my feed? I don't know. There's no feed.

[John C. Dvorak]

It would be.

[Adam Curry]

So maybe somebody texted me, let me see if I can find it. Text.

[John C. Dvorak]

Whatever had happened to the good old days of the Internet worm, Remember that one?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah, the Internet worm.

[John C. Dvorak]

I remember that. That was a great day. People don't remember that, but there was, that was, I guess that was the first large scale cyber issue. And the Internet worm, it replicated and it went through all the servers and everybody got all clogged up. And this is before the web though, wasn't it?

[Adam Curry]

I think so. Before the Web, this was a story that was broken. Actually, it was John Markoff that broke this story for the New York Times when he first got over there. And it was such a fabulous story that they took him off the story.

[John C. Dvorak]

1988, the Morris Worm is what it was called.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, the Morris Worm. They took him off the story and put a more experienced reporter around so that he could get an award.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, really?

[Adam Curry]

That's how the corruption works in the mainstream media. And of course, I've always. I gave him grief about this for years about. Yeah, he got taken off the story. So they. Somebody else can win in a Pulitzer. You could have gotten one. Good. But because you're not going to go into the New York Times early, like this was like his first year there and get a Pulitzer. You can't do that. It's. No, no, it's against the rules. And so they took him off the Morris worm and then they also. The story that never came out, except I think I've mentioned it before, is that they changed his copy because during his discussion of the Morris was the kid, I think of a professor or something. They went to the professors and he. And he was doing color on describing the scene and there was a bunch of Russian writing on the black board that has something to do with something and they had to take. They had to excise CIA or somebody told them, no, you can't mention that this guy's doing any work with the Russians or something. It was some screwy thing. And you never figured out why they had to take that paragraph out. But this is another use of the mainstream media being a front for the intelligence operations.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I liked it when we called it the worm. I think it was better than a virus. I like like worm.

[Adam Curry]

It was different than a virus.

[John C. Dvorak]

It was created by, well, not really Robert Tappan Morris. And the way it worked was it exploited a hole in the debug mode of the UNIX send mail program. So it did spread virally through sendmail. It then exploited a buffer overflow hole in the finger network service.

[Adam Curry]

Who remembers self propagated. Yeah, well, yeah, I think it's still a worm type we can call it. I think it's more of a worm than a virus. Viruses are something that are spread through file sharing. Which brings us to the tip of the day for later today.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, well, before we get to the tip of the day, why don't we go to this where I thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, the man who Put the C on your half of the court. Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only, Mr. John C. Devor.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Good morning to you, Mr. Morning. All shifts sea boots of the ground F in the air, subs in the water and dames and ice out there in the morning.

[John C. Dvorak]

To the trolls in the troll room. Stand by, trolls. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Is it. It's spring break, isn't it? It's spring break. That's what's going on. Spring break. Did you know it's spring break?

[Adam Curry]

Why is it spring break?

[John C. Dvorak]

It's because that's what happens is spring break. Break.

[Adam Curry]

Maybe spring.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. But it's spring break because. I know, because Fredericksburg is filled with loonies. I went to play chess on Tuesday.

[Adam Curry]

Chess?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I played chess with Willie at Java ranch.

[Adam Curry]

Do you have a timer? And you slam your hand on it and when you make a move.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, no, no. Willie is a cool dude, though. I met him at church, and I thought, wow, this guy's. When I sat next to him, he told me his whole story. He had a head on crash in Colorado when he was 19, and they had a couple of seizures. And so he talks like that. And then I said, why would you have coffee sometime? And then he brought his chess set, and the guy's like a master chess player. And. But whenever. But whenever he wins, he's like. And the whole place, you know, it's totally embarrassing and lovely at the same time. They even had the first Willie chess competition last month. There were, like 30 people came. He plays chess with everybody now. Anyway, it's spring break, so I. I know, because it's just crazy.

[Adam Curry]

What. Why would anybody go. Was there a beach? Fredericksburg is a bunch of bikini.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, you. You can drink on the street in Fredericksburg. We are one of the six cities in America where that is legal.

[Adam Curry]

What are the other five?

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know. New Orleans is one.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I know New Orleans.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know. I don't know the other four, but we're nearby. You know, you could. You're in Austin, you're like, hey, let's go get drunk and laugh at the Republicans. I don't know what they do. You know, I'm sure that's. Let's go make fun of the church people. Let's go to Fredericksburg and get hammered. Yeah, that's what they do. So that explains the 1993. 1993 trolls today, as opposed to our Thursday average, which is. Is higher. 2023 or last year.

[Unknown]

Really?

[John C. Dvorak]

The average. Well, our average over the last 10 shows is 2087.

[Adam Curry]

The last to me. The median is 1800 for Thursday. Well, 1800 is a good.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I have the stats. The numbers don't lie.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, your stats are what they are. No, it's, you know, stating are good for everything.

[John C. Dvorak]

The last 100 shows, 1902. So I'm just. Just saying. I'm just saying that we're down a little bit. Just a little bit. But these trolls, they are hanging out in the troll room, which is where we love to have them. I've been having intermittent connection issues with the troll room today. I'm not sure what's going on.

[Adam Curry]

Well, that's probably why the numbers are down.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't. I don't know if it's the troll room or if it's me. I'm not sure. But they are listening live, and you can do that@trollroomio or on your modern podcast app, which is fun to do. Curiocaster is. It's actually a webpage you can use to listen live. And with all these modern podcast apps that you can [e-mail] when we go live, boom. You get an alert. It says they're going live. You get the bad signal, you hit it. You can listen live. When we publish our show to any of these modern podcast apps, besides all the cool features you get, you get your transcripts, you get your chapters. Thank you, dreb. Scott. Within 90 seconds, it'll be updated. So no more waiting around and email emailing. Adam, you forgot to upload it to itunes. No, no, that's not how it works. That's Apple just sits there and polls and polls. Wasting resources. We use the modern pod ping. These trolls are often in the troll room to get good ideas for artwork. But, oh, my. As part of our time, talent and treasure, we rely on the outstanding work of many of our producers who build websites for us and do all kinds of fun things, including the no Agenda Artists Generator, which was down on the last show, which meant we really had very little to choose from.

[Adam Curry]

So we had two pieces.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. A couple of artists were smart and emailed us and said, hey, this is my chance. I'm getting in now. And that was. And I think it was Nessworks. Let me check. Let me see. Did we choose Nessworks? Yes, it was. Nessworks brought us the artwork for episode 1745. What did we want to we title 1745 Old Crone as we titled it. And so we got that Straight from the email. So there's really nothing to discuss because we didn't have anything else to look at except that. And was there one other one that came in? I can't remember what it was.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, there was. I think it was one of the ladies.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, was it Tantanil? Maybe she sent something. So there's not much to discuss today, but I see that the art generator is working again. Thank you, Sir Paul Couture. We understand these things can be difficult. And he also asked me specifically. Let me make sure I get this right. He asked me specifically to give an F cancer for his mom, which is part of the distraction that was going on in his household. So we'll do that right now. You've got karma, and we appreciate all the work you do, Sir Paul, and all the work that the artists do who are diligently uploading. So thank you very much. Now we go to the Treasure part of our time. Talent and Treasure. This is a value for Value podcast, which means you just give back whatever you think the show is worth to you. It's been going pretty well for us for 17 years. We're in our 18th year now. Four more to go. Less than four now, actually. Three years and nine months.

[Adam Curry]

Always. Four more forever.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's your wish. Dream on, baby. I got a lot of life left of me. This is going to take a lot of convincing and keep me going for another presidential cycle. Especially when you're blowing schnoz in my ear. It's hard. It's hard. It's a hard life. We'd like to thank everybody who comes in $50 and above. We don't do under 50 for reasons of anonymity. Reminder, if you had a recurring donation set up, it probably expired. A lot of them do around the beginning of the year. And if you've never done one, go to noagendadonations.com set one up. Any frequency, any amount is all up to you. And we appreciate all of the support we get from our producers. And we kick it off with our top executive producer. Now, these are people we want to thank. They're $200 or above. If you are at $200 or above, you get an official credit. It's an associate executive producer credit. Good. Wherever credits are recognized, which is also all of Hollywood, including that Snow White movie, they would have recognized it. But you know you're not on that. And be happy that you don't have a credit that says, I was an associate executive producer on Snow White. No. Associate executive producer of the no agenda show $200 above, you get that credit and we read your note. $300 and above, you become an executive producer. Same applies. It's good for your lifetime and accepted wherever credits are recognized. And we also read your note. And so we come to our first executive producer, Troy Language Lafferty, who is in Newark. But not Newark, New Jersey, home of Frank Sinatra. No, Newark, Ohio. And Troy says, with $700. Okay. And he get us a knighthood today. How to each of the best podcasts in the universe. You guys are truly the best. Adam, thank you for providing godcaster to all of us aspiring podcasters. Also, Adam, I appreciate your bold stance on the Christian faith and the multiple interviews in which you talk about Christian Christianity. Well, well, where were you on my Flashpoint thread? I could have used some help there. Muchos gracias, Juan, for providing the audience. Oh, that would be you, John. Juan, with providing the audience with countless tales regarding your many storied experiences. It seems like on a weekly basis, I am providing my keeper with tips from John. Well, that's no coincidence. He does the chip of the day. By the way, thanks for the tip on the Bordeaux crates from Costco. Good stuff. Yeah. Yeah. That is probably one of the best no agenda tips ever. And people always remember that one. And this donation brings me to knighthood. He says, for my feast at the roundtable, I'm requesting rattlesnake chili wild boar medallions, and John's choice of a fine Bordeaux to pair with these wild game selections. Let me get my notepad out because John is going to give us a selection.

[Adam Curry]

You give?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Get A bottle of 1990 Lynch Boge.

[John C. Dvorak]

1990 Lynch Bage. How do I spell Bage?

[Adam Curry]

B, A, G, E, S. Bage.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay. All right. And we'll add that to your rattlesnake chili wild boar medallions. You got it. So for henceforth, please refer to me as Sir Troy from the land of the psyops. Finally, please switch a ro hundred dollars of my total credit to John C. Lovins from New Albany, Ohio, as an associate executive producer. Well, this is complicated. I have to write that down. No jingles, no karma. Though he says, please, though, deduce me as I forgot to ask for it last time. And de douche John C. Lovins, you've been de douched. All right, that's yours. And here's for John C. Lovins.

[Adam Curry]

You've been deuce douched.

[John C. Dvorak]

And he says, thanks. Four more years, Troy Lafferty. Laugh is pronounced like laugh. Got it. Newark Ohio. H. Thank you very much. Good. I'm going to put in John C. Lovin's associate right now. You got it.

[Adam Curry]

Onward With Surfer. He's the Black baron of the i4 corridor in Orlando. ITM John and Adam. Switcheroo. Oh, it's a switcheroo. Please. By the way, there's a check you wrote on a piece of paper.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

Please credit this executive producership to Ashlyn Speed.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, oh. Our racing gal. Our girl, Ashlyn Speed. Okay.

[Adam Curry]

It's funny. I've got. He wrote this on the. He recycled a sheet of paper. And the backside is the annual meeting of the Biltmore Shores Community Club with the addition agenda.

[John C. Dvorak]

Huh. What's on the agenda? What's on the agenda?

[Adam Curry]

Well, Holly Greer speaks. At first, she's the president. Nomination and approval of officers. Then the financial review community events comes up after that and the new business back. Back to the note. Not only does she promote the no Agenda show with that decal on her race car.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

But she also sends you guys money. According to my accounting, this switcheroo donation qualifies Ashlin for damehood.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, how about that?

[Adam Curry]

Welcome to the round table, young lady. You are amazing. Jingle request. Boogie boogity boogity. Smoking Hot wife. And the F35. Karma. Thank you for your courage, sir. Fur the Black baron of the i4 corridor in Orlando.

[Unknown]

You've got karma.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, that brings us to Thomas kilbride from Waco, Texas. 5.15.38. I have no note from Thomas Kilbride.

[Adam Curry]

I don't get anything.

[John C. Dvorak]

But he may have been going for a Commodore ship. I'll check that in a moment. But for no note, you do get a double up, Carmine.

[Unknown]

And you've got Karma.

[Adam Curry]

Sir John. In London. In London. London, UK Dear Adam and John. I thought I'd get on the Commodore act before it runs out for good. Here's 500 greenbacks for my Commodore title. Please, could I gain the additional title of Commodore Kumar of the seas? Seven seas of the seven Cs. Hold on a second. I gotta.

[John C. Dvorak]

What are you doing?

[Adam Curry]

My.

[John C. Dvorak]

What are you doing?

[Adam Curry]

Well, what happened was a little drop down menu showed up, which takes out part of the cell, so I can't read the whole thing. Let me.

[John C. Dvorak]

Are you using a pivot table?

[Adam Curry]

There it is. Okay, I got rid of it. Some dropped down for some unknown reason. Please, could I get intext? Yeah. Commodore Kumar of the Seven Seas. No jingles, just karma for the whole no Agenda family. Regards, Sir John of South London. Commodore Kumar of the Seven Seas. Yeah, but when. When you. Okay, what? When you send in your request for the comedy, put the title in there and it'll get.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh yes, it gets posted. Yes, that's true.

[Unknown]

You've got karma.

[John C. Dvorak]

We go to Zonder Funden Brand in Berlin, the Netherlands. Dear Adam and John Vape donation to finally become a Commodore 64. Adam will understand I called him out on a clicking sound, but it was his vape. I shouldn't have been so vapid. Anyways, time to donate to the best podcast in the universe. While the Netherlands is going to shits, while Trump is putting an end to things, here, we are doubling down on dei Green deal and Migration. Lovely. Love everything you do, so keep it up and I'll be sporting my no agenda merch everywhere I go. Joe Jingle request a deduching you've been de douched. And an old one from the vault. He wants Putin on the Ritz followed by Pew Pew. Name me as Commodore SNDR of Middle Rota.

[Unknown]

Come, let's mix where John Podesta walks with kids. Oh, I mean, pizzas in his midst.

[Adam Curry]

Putin on the Ritz.

[John C. Dvorak]

There you go. Pew pew.

[Adam Curry]

That brings us to the bonus clip for the middle of the donation segment.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh boy. Aren't you glad you're listening people? You're listening to the donation segment. We have a bonus clip for you.

[Adam Curry]

Since it was mentioned in that particular clip. New play the news. The Pizzagate killer is dead.

[John C. Dvorak]

The man who terrorized people at a crowded D.C. pizza shop back in 2016 has died. Edgar Madison Welch was shot and killed.

[Unknown]

Monday by police in Kannapolis, North Carolina after he pulled out a gun during a traffic stop.

[John C. Dvorak]

Eight years ago, the so called Pizzagate gunman entered Comet Ping Pong in Northwest with a revolver and rifle. He was searching for a non existent.

[Unknown]

Child sex ring which he learned about.

[John C. Dvorak]

From a right wing conspiracy website. Welch was sentenced to prison and released back in 2021. Didn't this happen a few weeks ago?

[Adam Curry]

I don't know.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think so.

[Adam Curry]

News to me.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, there's your bonus clip everybody. Another guy is dead. Surprise.

[Adam Curry]

The guy's dead. Well, meanwhile we have the Arch Duchess Kim, keeper of the nutty fluffers in Hubbard, Oregon, came in with $500 to get her Commodore thing and she wrote again. This is another check that came in with a handwritten note. Appreciate these ITM John and Adam jingle. Screw your freedom little girl. Girl. Yay R2D2 karma, please. The same sad puppy and a Commodore ship were too much for me not to donate I have to do my part to keep the great newsletters coming. Let me read that again. Great newsletters, huh?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. To keep the great newsletters coming, I have to do my great newsletters. Okay, Newsletters.

[Adam Curry]

She's talking about the great. Okay, the great newsletter.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's a great newsletter. It's the best newsletter.

[Unknown]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

Hands down, the hypocrite of the week is the best part. Outside of John's wonderful insight insights.

[John C. Dvorak]

There you go.

[Adam Curry]

You two keep me from going completely off the deep end. And for that, my employees and family are grateful. Keep up the great work, Arch Duchess of the Of. Arch Duchess Kim, Keeper of the Nutty Fluffers.

[John C. Dvorak]

Screw your freedom. Yay.

[Unknown]

You've got Karma.

[John C. Dvorak]

And we move to Sir DataOps from Madison, Wisconsin.333.33 who says I've been a listener and producer for over six years and no agenda has been a welcome. A welcome constant in my life. That's right, we're always here. Your deconstruction has helped me see manipulation for what it is and gain confidence in knowing I'm part of a large tribe of like minded individuals. For the past few years this podcast has been my only source for news. So when you start a topic with Everyone already knows about this, there's a good chance I don't. With this donation, I'll become a Baron. Please update my title from Baronet Sir Data Ops, the Wisconsin Millennial to Baron Sir Spatial Support, the Wisconsin Millennial. Thank you for your courage and for jingles. Please play WTC 7 dogs are people Too. And hit me with some karma.

[Adam Curry]

WTC 7 won't go away.

[Unknown]

Dogs are people Too. You've got karma.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's a classic. A classic I tell you.

[Adam Curry]

Robert Milner and Marion, Iowa, 33333 ITM John and Adam, thank you for all that you do. Today marks my first step toward knighthood and as an executive producer. I want to thank my grandpa Sir D. Doug of the Copper line who hit me in the mouth at the start of COVID and the show has been shrinking my amygdala and keeping me sane ever since. And I think it's time for a long awaited de douching. You've been de douched for all those on the fence donate jobs. Karma works in my in many mysterious ways. I can confirm it's safe and effective. Because of this I I don't have to live on the Mac and cheese anymore. Finally I'm able to give some long overdue treasure to the show and can additionally now give my time and talent to those in gitmonation as well. So if you have a need for a new or used semi truck, reach out to rob the used truck guy at 5-63-54-22-32, 3.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, sorry.

[Adam Curry]

238-3.

[John C. Dvorak]

You gotta read it again now. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

5, 6 3, 5 4, 2, 2, 3, 8, 3. Please don't actually rob the used truck guy. For every truck sold to the no agenda list or 330, 333 of the Commission will be reinvested back to the show. That's interesting. Wow. As a donation in their name. Thank you for your courage. Can I get a Mac and cheese and a yak? Karma? You slaves can get used to Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese, macaroni and cheap cheddar melted together.

[John C. Dvorak]

Mac and cheese, Mac and cheese, Mac and cheese.

[Unknown]

You've got.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now, before I go to the next note, we went to the P.O. box, and there were a number of items in the PO Box which I need to mention, including a check for $333.33 from Zach from Frankenmuth, Michigan. Did you get a package of chocolates from the Frankenmuth people some time ago? Yeah. Well, it'd been sitting in our PO Box for some time, but did you get a check?

[Adam Curry]

Well, it was some time ago. Maybe that was like a month ago or so. I don't remember.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah. Well, he has Noagenda chocolates dot com. This is, of course, the famous Frankenmuth chocolate.

[Adam Curry]

It was, like, last year, I think.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, it wasn't that long ago, but it was. It came with a serving platter and it had all kinds.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah, yeah, it was a while ago. Yeah, yeah. The platter, which is a cutting board, is dynamite.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it's fantastic. The sampler tray is what he calls it. Remember, free shipping on orders over $30 at Noagenda Chocolates dot com.

[Adam Curry]

I thought that expired.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, no, no. That was noagendafudge.com. now, this is noagendachocolates.com.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. So I will send that 333.33 check.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, drop it in it. Put it in.

[John C. Dvorak]

Before I go, thank you to dbadbadba.com who sent me some of their coffee beans. That's the Red Bike Coffee.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. By the way, dba. Dba. DBA sent me two bags of coffee, too.

[John C. Dvorak]

Very nice. And then did you get a cutting board?

[Adam Curry]

From what?

[John C. Dvorak]

From Sir Eredardarian?

[Adam Curry]

No, dude.

[John C. Dvorak]

He put together a cutting board that is beautiful. Beautiful. And he sent it to Us. He said don't mention it, so. Okay, well, I'm going to mention it anyway. Oh, that.

[Adam Curry]

Because he doesn't want. Now he's got to make one for me because I'm in a grouse. That was what you.

[Unknown]

You.

[Adam Curry]

And you blew it. You outed him.

[John C. Dvorak]

Thank you to whoever sent me the F22 Raptor mission systems patch for my. For my jacket. I appreciate.

[Adam Curry]

I don't have that either.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no. And thank you. Jordan r. Brown for U.S. senate, who was running against Lindsey Graham in South Carolina. He sent me his. His agenda. I think no matter what. If you can, if there's someone running against Lindsey Graham, vote for him. Jordan r. Brown for U.S. senate.

[Adam Curry]

He locks it down, Lindsay.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well, maybe. Maybe. All right, then we go to Sir PP. I'll do this one as well. Sir PT Sir PPT. I'm sorry. $333.33. He says in the morning, boys. February donation. Yes, it's March. February 15th. Was it sitting in your P.O. box with your chocolates?

[Adam Curry]

What?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, this Note, it's dated February 15th.

[Adam Curry]

That just came in. Just came in.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

Sometimes I don't know why, some mail comes in very late to have local post office issues. Somebody bitched about this. And. No. Where's my. How come I didn't get mentioned?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, because.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Generally speaking, these. The mail works quite well, but it's in some areas where he is. Where's that? I don't know where it was postmarked.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay. I don't know either. Anyway, he says he loves the show. I'd like to thank Dame Astrid and Sir Mark for a great meetup in Tokyo. Ah, it came from Tokyo. That's why.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, it's from Japan. Oh, I saw that note come in. Yeah. Hope a Japanese. It came from Japan. That took forever. Sure.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Like we just got our Christmas card from Willow in Italy. I'm telling you, we've got problems.

[Adam Curry]

The international stuff is bad.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hopefully we can all get together again soon, he says. Also, a shout out to El Mexicano, his wife and little human resource touring Thailand. Stay safe, sir ppt. And he says donation accounting available upon your request. Well, we trust you. Does that mean he becomes a knight? Because he didn't mention that. He'll have to let us know if that's so. Thank you very much.

[Adam Curry]

Dame in Training in Highland Park, Illinois. It's also a name of a good Scotch. Pre1585.

[John C. Dvorak]

What?

[Adam Curry]

John was right. As he usually is. Let me read that again. His wind chime. Did Elicit a donation.

[John C. Dvorak]

You better hit the chime. Donate.

[Adam Curry]

I don't know. I understand how that works. Love y'all and thank you for your service. Yours, Damon Training, Highland Park, Illinois.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, beautiful. Sir Mike 44Jr, not BS from Bethalto, Illinois. 314 in the morning. Thank you for your courage. Happy PI Day. There it is. There it is. The One PI Day donation.

[Adam Curry]

That's right.

[John C. Dvorak]

Another winner. Another winner. Happy Pie Day.

[Adam Curry]

I think the Damon training may have been a pie date with the added. No.

[John C. Dvorak]

No. I don't think so. No.

[Adam Curry]

No way.

[John C. Dvorak]

Happy Pie Day to Mahati Mob. Another year. Let's see if I am free for the Fourth of July. Bison. Or is it Buffalo Karma? Please. For work relationship and legal reasons, all hail to the full. Bellamy sweet. Sir Mike44 Jr not BS I think he means Yak Karma. Because we don't have Bison or Buffalo. It must be.

[Unknown]

You've got Harma.

[Adam Curry]

Sir Hooper.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hoop.

[Adam Curry]

Hoopin Hoopinsocker in Bolsburg, Pennsylvania. 270. 68. Another check with a piece of paper. This is actually a pretty long note, but I'll read it. ITM gentlemen, please find and close my immense donation of 270. Sent to Reconcile for being too broke for the last six months to maintain my sustaining donation. Luckily, my mom. I'm sorry.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow. I'm just reading this now. Wow.

[Adam Curry]

Luckily, he says, my mom croaked and her entire estate finally settled after four years. Thanks to for being on top of nothing, California. So I can screw square up.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, man.

[Adam Curry]

My 333 monthly donation will restart in April. And I suggest every listener commit to a sustaining donation, no matter how small it is, Value for value. After all, this donation makes me a Viscount. And I would like to be known as Sir Hoopinsucker. Baron of the Psychedelic Overmind and Related Dimensions. Viscount of the Noospate. No news Noospace.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think it's News Sphere.

[Adam Curry]

New Space Sphere.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's no space in it.

[Adam Curry]

No Sphere. I don't know why I'm saying I don't know either. Well, it is what it is. It's my bionic lenses. I respectfully, respectfully request that 20% of this go to paying down the national debt. Well, that's actually going to happen.

[John C. Dvorak]

That'll do it. Yeah, exactly.

[Adam Curry]

About 20% does go to taxes. 60% goes to Adam for managing communications from the thousands of producers that John has blocked. I blocked nobody.

[John C. Dvorak]

No.

[Adam Curry]

And the remaining 20% to provide $5,000 checks for every American taxpayer. Yeah, he's got that figured. He's Got the math right. Nailed it. I would like a sitar. Jingle Goat Karma, please. Do we have that?

[John C. Dvorak]

No.

[Adam Curry]

And thank you for your work and courage, Matthew. And then he's got some accounting.

[John C. Dvorak]

We don't. We don't have a sitar. We just have a regular service goat.

[Unknown]

You've got.

[John C. Dvorak]

And there you go. You got your goat. We got your goat. You got your goat. Dame Janet is next. Also a written note. $250 says ITM John Adam. Nice handwriting. Dame Janet. This donation is a switcheroo for my smoking hot husband, Bill, as well as a birthday donation for Bill, retrospect, retroactively on March 1 and mine on March 15. Because of the I. Oh, Beware of the ides of March. So what do we put in there? Do we put in just Bill, or. I mean, it's Bill, it's Dame Janet. We just do Bill. I'm gonna do Bill. Bill. I don't know what else to do, Bill. All right, Bill, you're on the list. Bill.

[Adam Curry]

Hold on.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, Bill is on the list. And what else does. Bill, what does the Dame Janet say here? She says, john, I love the newsletter, the memes, and the hypocrite of the week always make me laugh. There's the second hypocrite of the week. Lover.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. In the same show. Random number.

[John C. Dvorak]

Keep on keeping us sane, Dame Janet of the TP Wyoming. Okay, I'll call it Bill of the TP Wyoming. $250. Thank you very much. I'll put Bill. Bill of the TP Wyoming.

[Adam Curry]

Well, Eli, the coffee guy's back from Bensonville, Illinois. $203.13. Jay was concerned.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, of course. We were all concerned that we hadn't heard from him last week. We didn't know if something was going on.

[Adam Curry]

No blurts with nothing zany going on. I don't have anything witty to add to the conversation today, but we did a new coffee in our Black Bag series. This Black baby. This Black Baker is quite good.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, Black Bag.

[Adam Curry]

This is Gigawatt Coffee roasters dot com. And get some organic Ethiopian guji today. It's delicious. And don't forget to use code ITM.20 for 20% off your first order. Thank you for your courage. And stay caffeinated, says Eli the coffee guy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sir, I'm like that. 233 cents. He is the sir. I'm like that in God's country, to be exact. Gents, millennial private investment producer here. Ah, it's been too long. Not because of my terrible market projections last year. Persistent inflation no Fed cuts market at all time highs Nvidia be a House of Cards 2025 refinancing wave be the next downturn event well, he's right on there. I'm agreeing with you. The refinancing wave will be a downturn event for stocks.

[Adam Curry]

If it happens, good for America.

[John C. Dvorak]

While I take credit for a few and realize that the Fed should have remained steady, these were mostly in the neighborhood. Regarding the refinancing wave, it sure seems that Trump is stoking fear into the market to sure us can refi@ lower rates. Well, here you go. I do apologize. This is long overdue. I recently had a change in my role that puts me on the road to as a pseudo wholesaler of my company's proprietary investment solution. Things are going great but busy. Hope to make some more donations as I settle in. Jingles Donald Trump, don't trust China Share a secret and anything Reverend Al Please.

[Unknown]

Donald Trump don't trust China.

[Adam Curry]

China is everything.

[Unknown]

Oh, there's no winning. We don't like to foster a competitive atmosphere, but we laugh a lot. Now everyone hug and share a secret.

[John C. Dvorak]

Resist we much we must.

[Adam Curry]

They're all giddy about a shutdown.

[John C. Dvorak]

The tortoise in the race then.

[Adam Curry]

Co author of who Breece YouTube lead.

[John C. Dvorak]

Singer Bono Fran Dreischer Sigournoy Weaver Sigma Suspect Jahar S. Rush Limbaugh.

[Adam Curry]

Rush Limbaugh.

[Unknown]

You've got karma.

[John C. Dvorak]

What a mess. There you go. There you go, brother. Thank you.

[Adam Curry]

Eric Cioffi in Columbus, Ohio. $200.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think it's a chaffee.

[Adam Curry]

Chaffee?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

C I O F F I is chaffee.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, it's chaffee. It says it there in the notes. The bottom.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, I didn't read the note.

[John C. Dvorak]

I did.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, there it is. It's like coffee with a chi with a she. Chauffee. Yeah, you're right. Itm this is my upside donation. If you don't know, Upside is an app where you can earn cash back by filling up your car at a particular gas station.

[John C. Dvorak]

Participating.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, well, the same thing, right?

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

Since I drive a lot for work, I figured I'd give it a try. Well, it didn't take long. I earned 200 bucks. So I thought why not give it to the best podcasts in the universes and get myself an Associate Executive Producer Producer title, given that I mostly listen to the show while driving. Huh. Why not keep using the app and occasionally donate what I earn if others want to do the same, Enter the promo code. Eric 84582. And we'll both get a bonus.

[John C. Dvorak]

Bongiro.

[Adam Curry]

84582. Eric E R, I C. You're sure? I just. I think it's a good idea, actually. Your show truly is the best podcast in the universe. I started listening during COVID based on a recommendation from a co worker, and I haven't missed an episode since. You guys have opened up my eyes to the corruption that plagues our government and the media. Thanks for the amazing analysis, by the way. This is why we have to ask for donations to do the show, because of what we're doing. Yes, thanks for the amazing analysis. Can I get a house? Selling and buying Karma. Thank you for your courage, Eric. Chuffy. Like coffee, but with a ch.

[Unknown]

You've got karma.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I forgot one more thing. Did you get the Serious Pepper Hot Sauce trio?

[Adam Curry]

I talked about it on the show.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, that's right. Yeah. But I just got mine in.

[Adam Curry]

Well, that's interesting, because I got the one that's got the one that you got. You got the same three, I'm sure. Habanero, Serrano, and then a ghost pepper. My ghost pepper bottle broke in the.

[John C. Dvorak]

In the box I just happen to have right here. My only ghost. It's complete and ready and good to go.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, well, I want you to open it right now. Put a drop on your finger.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't think so. Why not? Okay, let me see.

[Adam Curry]

It's not gonna be that hot.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, it's. The packaging is crazy. How do you even open. Open this? It's got. How do you. How did you open yours? It's like the.

[Adam Curry]

What, the bottle?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, the bottle is very. It's tight. I can't open it. It's got.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, just scratch.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Open a bottle.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hold on. Well, now you said it. Now I'm gonna do. I got. I got to. I've got some. I got a knife here. Hold on.

[Adam Curry]

A knife?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, I got a knife. I got a gun. I got everything here.

[Adam Curry]

You kidding me? It is guys. Loaded.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is Texas, man. Okay, I got it. I got it. All right, here we go. Let's open this up. Okay. All right. Just the tip?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, just the tip.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay. Luckily, I have some water here.

[Adam Curry]

It's not water that does the trick. You need milk.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's actually not that bad.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I didn't think it would be that hot. I mean, because, you know, the. They know how people that make these sauces know what they're doing. They're not just making pure capsicum.

[John C. Dvorak]

It does linger.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. That's what it's supposed to.

[John C. Dvorak]

It does. It's lingering. So that brings us, thank God, to our last associate executive producer. Whoo. This is hard, John. Linda Loupatkin. She is in Lakewood, Colorado. $200. As she does every single show, and we are incredibly grateful for it. She says jobs, karma. And for a competitive edge with a resume that gets results, go to ImageMakers Inc.com for all of your resume and job search needs. That's Image Makers Inc. With a K. And work with Linda Liu, duchess of jobs and the writer of resumes.

[Unknown]

Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.

[Adam Curry]

Let's vote for jobs.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now, I got to be careful I don't rub my eye by accident. That would be a very big, big problem. Wow. That is kind of spicy. That is.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it's just. It's a tasty product.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know what it says right here in the bottle? High quality, small batch. Yeah. There you go. Serious Pepper hot sauce company. Thank you very much. I'm going to try it on my eggs tomorrow morning. And thank you to our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1746 of the Best podcast in the universe. We appreciate all of you supporting us. Of course. People, time, talent, and treasure. And we will thank the rest of our producers $50 and above in our second segment. Once again, congratulations. Congratulations to these executive and associate executive producers. The titles are worth a lifetime.

[Unknown]

Our formula is this.

[Adam Curry]

We go out, we hit people in the mouth.

[John C. Dvorak]

Shut up, Slay.

[Unknown]

Shut up, slave.

[John C. Dvorak]

Baby. It's hot. It's very hot.

[Adam Curry]

Makes you want more, doesn't it?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. I just can't wait to get more. I'm waiting for more. It's groovy. More, please. More? No, absolutely not.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, well, let's play these cyber attack clips and get them out of here.

[John C. Dvorak]

You've had those for three weeks, three shows. Yeah. Are they still valid?

[Adam Curry]

I think so.

[Unknown]

A House committee analyzes the ongoing threats.

[Adam Curry]

The Chinese Communist Party poses to American.

[Unknown]

Infrastructure through cyber attacks and espionage. Entity correspondent Jason Blair has more from.

[Adam Curry]

The nation's capital as we speak.

[John C. Dvorak]

The Chinese Communist Party is waging a full scale cyber war against the American people.

[Unknown]

The bipartisan House Select Committee on the Chinese Communist Party had a hearing to talk about what intelligence officials are saying about the current threats from the Communist Party in regards to cybersecurity as well as what the US can do to defend against it. One message that the committee wanted to get across is that this is just one area where the CCP is waging warfare against the U.S. however, it is One area that can do a lot of damage. Chair Moulin are said in his own opening statement that CCP's hackers have targeted things like water treatment plants, power grids that power homes as well as even hospitals. Moolah gave two recent examples of big cyber attacks from Chinese hackers. One that targeted telecommunications companies like AT&T and Verizon were there. They were able to gain access to millions of false. Gaining access to sensitive data from those users, as well as listening into conversations pretty much at will. And this ranged from, you know, your everyday person up to even the President and Vice President. He also brought up another recent example where Chinese hackers targeted critical infrastructure in the US Gaining access to, like I mentioned earlier, water treatment plants, power grids, things like that. And intelligence. Intelligence officials are telling them that the CCP plans to kind of use these whenever they feel they need to in case there's some kind of conflict, perhaps something to do with Taiwan.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is such horse crap. We've been hearing this for so long. Oh, the Chinese are in every. It's almost like Iran is two weeks away from a nuclear bomb.

[Adam Curry]

Data from your phone. Oh, yeah, sensitive data.

[John C. Dvorak]

China ccp. Could you please just bring down all the social media networks? That would be great. That would, that, that would make me a happy American. I would even learn Mandarin just to thank.

[Adam Curry]

You heard him.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. I mean it. Bring that stuff.

[Adam Curry]

He means it.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's ruining our country.

[Adam Curry]

You're right.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. All right. Clip two. It is clear Xi Jinping's goal is to sabotage our way of life when the time is right for his regime. We must understand that this isn't just a slave cyber threat. This is part of the CCP's larger strategy to destroy the American way of life.

[Unknown]

Continued saying quote, the CCP views all forms of warfare, cyber, economic, ideological and military as different tools to achieve the same goal. Global domination through the defeat of its enemies. As far as what the US can do to deter and defend against it. Ranking members Member Krishnamoorthy brought up some solutions to address the weaknesses from the two most recent major cyber attacks, as well as the US increasing the cyber talent workforce, both in the government and the private sector. And he also really wanted to emphasize that the US needs to start holding the CCP accountable when these attacks happen. It means imposing costs on the CCP each time they attack us.

[John C. Dvorak]

When Xi Jinping decides whether to launch.

[Unknown]

Another attack attack, he needs to ask himself whether the costs are worth the benefit.

[John C. Dvorak]

Nukem.

[Adam Curry]

These aren't just cyber criminals.

[Unknown]

These aren't just asymmetrical threats. These are real plan threat actors who.

[Adam Curry]

Have made a decision and orchestrated attacks.

[Unknown]

Against the United States who largely have.

[Adam Curry]

Not been held accountable by either Republican or Democratic administration.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's been three shows since this report and still they haven't done anything. This is so disappointing.

[Adam Curry]

You nailed it right away. This is just the same as in a week away from making a nuke, a nuclear bomb and Iranians are going to have the bomb any minute.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And you got same thing. Exactly the same thing.

[John C. Dvorak]

And you got a kicker.

[Unknown]

One common message the committee has been relaying is that the CCP is dead set on using any means possible to achieve their goal of dominating the world. And they have really not shown any, any sign of wanting to peacefully coexist.

[John C. Dvorak]

You remember when the Internet remember when the Internet of things that they were going to take over that and they were going to blow us up with our. Hey, could you please fix my vacuum cleaner? Internet of things China. This is all just bull. I am so tired of this fear mongering. And China, they're so horrible, these horrible people. They're rolling out safeguards for our children today.

[Unknown]

New ways to watch your kids and the clock on TikTok, the huge popular social media app, is rolling out a feature called Balance Digital Habits in order to help parents watch their children's usage and even control their child's access.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh no, are they trying to control my child's access or oh wait, that's for me to control my child's access. Oh, thank you ccp.

[Unknown]

It really activates an important dialogue between parents and kids and teens about when it's appropriate to sit and scroll the app. The first new feature is called Time Away. This will allow parents to block kids and teens from being on the app at certain times. For some families, that could mean blocking access during the school day or even at night.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, we can block your access to Tick Tock. John.

[Unknown]

Another new feature is called Family Pairing. Parents are able to see who their child is following on Tick Tock, who follows them and who their child has blocked. It gives families even more transparency and potentially protects kids.

[John C. Dvorak]

This, by the way, I guess is the local take tock guy from following.

[Unknown]

Accounts that might provide misinformation, bad information, even cyber bullying. And finally, TikTok enacting a wind down feature for teens under age 16. After 10pm if they're using the app, their feed will be interrupted with a full screen takeover. It will have calming music and encourage the teen to be mindful of the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Time the tick tock is trying to control our children with calming music. Stop it.

[Unknown]

However, TikTok reporting that for those who have used this feature, the kids kept using it even after that full screen takeover. We could include this potentially in a list of bedtime hygiene. So this could be turning down screens, getting teeth brushed, making sure that everything is ready so kids can.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wait a minute. Did he say bed hygiene? Hold on a second. What did he call it? See it.

[Unknown]

Even after that full screen takeover, we could include this potentially in a list of bedtime hygiene. So this can be turning down screens.

[Adam Curry]

Getting teeth brushed, making sure that everything.

[Unknown]

Is ready so kids can slowly calm down, turn down the energy and get to bed.

[Adam Curry]

Slowly calm down. What are they? What riled up are your kids?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, TikTok does that to the kids. It's no good. You know, I'm thinking about this. So we got TikTok, which, who knows if there will ever be a deal on that. We've got. We had the Internet of things, we had the cloud. Cloud, but all that. What do you have before the cloud? What was before the cloud? What were all the hypes? We had machine learning.

[Adam Curry]

We had client server.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, clients, which was pre cloud NET suite. We had dumb dumb terminals. Came back again briefly. Remember that? Yeah, Oracle came out with a. And of course you can go back to web TV, but now we have the AI report, the AI hype and the Mag 7. Mag 7. Everything's down. Yeah, because it sucks and it's no good and it's just good for making memes and songs and funny videos. But. Oh, it's the future.

[Adam Curry]

And now that is the future. Funny videos.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, yeah, if people actually had to pay what it costs, we wouldn't have those either. But there was a report that came out 2. Two weeks ago from TD Cowan analyst, and they reported something peculiar. And I brought two clips of it because I think it's kind of interesting where we had all the hyperscalers. We have a million. The oil baron is the luckiest SOB I know. He sold his $3 million ranch for $15 million to some guys who want to put a data center on it just because he's near a transformer so they can get power to it and there's no people around, so the, you know, so the data center won't bother them and he'll be able to buy that thing back pennies on the dollar because Microsoft is pulling out of data centers.

[Unknown]

So what's going on with Microsoft's data center spending? Yeah, well, just to step back a bit, Microsoft has been one of the big technology companies that invest, is investing the most in AI and AI data centers in particular. They've talked about spending $80 billion this year on data center capacity. So this note from TD Cowan really raised a lot of questions. They said that there's evidence, they did some channel checks. They said that there's evidence that Microsoft has been canceling leases at data centers totaling a couple hundred megawatts of data. They also said that they're stopping something called SO qs, the statement of qualifications, which is sort of the step before leases. In other words, they're pulling back pretty dramatically from, from some of their data center commitments in the US and they're reallocating some of the spending that they were planning on doing internationally into the US and overall, the analysts asked the question of whether Microsoft is getting concerned about whether AI is going to live up to the hype, whether in fact companies like Microsoft are pulling back a bit because they have not seen the pickup in demand for data centers. Now, to be clear, Microsoft has not confirmed this. They haven't talked about these details. We got in touch with them and they said they still are planning on spending that $80 billion to the end of their hooker, which is coming up in June. They didn't talk about what they're doing after that, but they said they're definitely going to spend that amount now. So it does raise questions about where exactly Microsoft is spending this money, what it means and what the long term demand for AI is going to be.

[John C. Dvorak]

And the second part of this report makes me smile even bigger because the air is coming out of the bubble.

[Unknown]

And this, Peter, I guess suggests a material slowdown in international leasing. What would be the repercussions for tech in general, but also beyond. Well, we've seen these fears ricochet through the market pretty rapidly. Of course, there's tens of billions, hundreds of billions of dollars being spent on air capacity. Right now. Microsoft is just one of the company Metta, Amazon, Alphabet. We saw OpenAI and Stargate talk about spending $500 billion on capacity. So these are huge amounts of money. That money is being spent at companies like in video in particular to buy their chips, to put them into data centers, their real estate deals that are behind this. There's a whole ecosystem which has really been the biggest boom area of technology over the past few years. That's fueled the stock market boom to where you've seen in video, race to $3 trillion company. So if the spending starts to falter, if you start to see people begin to Believe that AI demand is not going. Going to live up to all this hype. Maybe they don't need to spend hundreds of billions of dollars. Maybe it's a bit less than that. That's going to take some air out of this bubble pretty quickly.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm a happy man. Finally. Let's find a new hype, huh?

[Adam Curry]

Why you wanted to go to another hype.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, another one.

[Adam Curry]

The Chinese announced a quantum computer.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, have you heard this? Well, I have been predicting this for a long time time. The pivot to quantum.

[Adam Curry]

And that's. It's something like a quadrillion times more.

[John C. Dvorak]

Powerful cubits, which is quadrillion more cub. Can you just admit that I have been predicting the pivot from AI to quantum for a long time.

[Adam Curry]

I. I think they're one in the same.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, come on, man. I've been saying the hype.

[Adam Curry]

Come on, man.

[John C. Dvorak]

I would been saying the Hype would from AI and ChatGPT.

[Adam Curry]

Well, if you talk about a dog of a pivot. Pivot to oblivion. Yeah. Okay. You nailed it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Thank you. I did nail it because it's just true. They have nothing. It is nothing. It's going nowhere. Customers don't want it. Who uses Copilot?

[Unknown]

Oh, yeah, I use it for all my programs.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

Clippy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it's a very expensive Clippy. So that, that, that will bring down our refi interest rates real quick. But I think they've been keeping this report as quiet as possible. I even read that Microsoft is now saying, well, you know, instead of nuclear plants, we'll just use gas turbines. That's okay. We don't need to build nukes. They're not going to build it. They're pulling out. The whole thing is a house of cards. It's going to come flopping down. Flip, flop, flop, flop, flop, flopping down. Now, you think it's still going to last two years, but I don't. I think it's over.

[Adam Curry]

I got at least. I have at least.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Two years on it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, at least. No, I'm saying before the year is out. Before the year is out.

[Adam Curry]

Before the year. Before this year.

[John C. Dvorak]

This year. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Is out. It's going to be a flop.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And we will stop talking about it.

[John C. Dvorak]

What do you mean? I'll have to be celebrating and dancing on my victory.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I mean, we had to stop talking about it as a positive thing. That's important.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

I love just from as of December, everything will be ridiculed.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. I love people that said the troll like Adam's going to be surprised. Oh, yeah. When AI takes over the world, it's gonna. Even Elon Musk shows up on Joe Rogan. All he's got is the unhinged chatbot from Grok that just uses expletives the whole time. Wow, it's so impressive. I'm just blown away by this stuff. It's so great. And people talk to these bots like they're real and they send me the output. Look what Grok said. If you have that in your email, it's delete. I'm not going to read that. It's a parlor trick.

[Adam Curry]

It's time to catch up with the Gaza. I have a clip. The Gaza, Gaza, Gaza. Clip from npr. So we know what the hell's going on.

[John C. Dvorak]

Top Arab diplomats have met with Trump's.

[Adam Curry]

Mideast envoy, Steve Witkoff and presented him.

[John C. Dvorak]

With Egypt's reconstruction plan for Gaza. NPR's Aya Batrawi reports. The plan has the support of all Arab states and several European nations. It counters Trump's proposal of displacing Palestinians from Gaza.

[Unknown]

Qatar says diplomats from Egypt, Saudi Arabia, the UAE and others, including a representative from the Palestinian Liberation Organization, met with Witkoff and agreed to continue consultations and coordination on the plan. Witkoff, who's in Doha for Gaza ceasefire talks, has called the Egyptian reconstruction plan a good faith first step. Egyptian Foreign Ministry spokesman Tamim Khalif tells npr, engaging the Trump administration on the plan is key. The plan that has been endorsed by the Arab world was developed and formulated to ensure that Palestinians in Gaza remain in their homeland. Israel's far right government, meanwhile, is preparing plans to facilitate Trump's proposal to permanently relocate Palestinians out of Gaza.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, that's. That was.

[Adam Curry]

The Arab world took a hint from Trump. Yeah, they know you guys are staying. We don't want these guys floating around.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hey, how about this? My buddy just became the new Chief Information Officer of the Department of Energy.

[Adam Curry]

Who's your buddy?

[John C. Dvorak]

Ross.

[Adam Curry]

Ross the intern.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. Well, this was my guy. Energy appoints Twitter, Google and Doge Alum. I wasn't allowed to mention anything as new cio. That's interesting. Wonder what he's going to do. Hmm. Well, congratulations. Yeah. We have an inside Lincoln bedroom for us. John. We're on. We're on the inside. We're on the inside. Finally, update on the horrific crash between the army helicopter and the. And the jet in D.C. and this does not come as a surprise.

[Unknown]

Federal investigators looking into the cause of that deadly collision between a passenger plane and an army helicopter. They're pushing for restrictions on some chopper flights near the nation's capital. 67 people were killed when the American Airlines jet and helicopter hit each other in Washington, D.C. back in January. The National Transportation Safety Board chairwoman says the current amount of separation between planes and choppers at Reagan National Airport isn't enough and is unsafe. They pose an intolerable risk to aviation safety. And the NTSB is recommending the FAA find a permanent solution for alternate routes for helicopters when two of the airport's runways are in use. Investigators found there were more than 15,000 cases of planes receiving alerts about helicopters being in close proximity between October of 2018, 2021 and December of 2024.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, man, it was just an accident waiting to happen. And also I, I learned from, from our aviation pal on the inside that that is the airport with the highest number of missed approaches. Because of this, because of that, you know, swing around to Runway three, three and then, oh, there's a chopper here. And like, let me pull up. And they go around. That place is a mess.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, well, they get, they pull the plug on these choppers.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, they do. And my final clip then before we go and thank some more people, we have John's tip of the day end of show mixes the ISO off, as we call it. And we have Commodores today. A couple of commodores. Is the Finally, a move that is of some substance against the nut job climate change agenda of the previous administrations.

[Unknown]

Driving a dagger straight to the heart of the climate change religion. At least that is how Lee Zeldin, the administrator of America's Environmental Protection agency, described his 31 step plan to deregulate U.S. environmental policies. Today I'm pleased to make the largest deregulatory announcement in U.S. history. Zeldin explained that his plan would benefit the economy by rolling back rules that unfairly burdened American industry and which he claimed cost trillions of dollars annually. Without providing any further detail, many of the moves would affect landmark regulations aimed at protecting clean air and water. Power plant emissions standards established by the Biden administration are to be reconsidered. The limits were key to reducing pollution linked to the gas and coal industries, including greenhouse gases, mercury and other toxic metals. Zeldin also said that he plans to rewrite the agency's landmark 2009 endangerment finding, which officially declared that greenhouse gases endanger public health and welfare, among many other actions. Today's momentous day also includes the 2009 endangerment finding along with all actions that rely on it. I've been told the endangerment finds finding is considered the holy grail of the climate change religion. The endangerment finding is the legal cornerstone for US Action to fight climate change and underlies the legal arguments for numerous regulations. Rolling it back was one of the recommendations of the controversial Project 2025. A few hours earlier, Selden also announced he was cutting $20 billion worth of climate grants.

[John C. Dvorak]

Nice. Yeah, that's some action. Cut all that nonsense.

[Adam Curry]

That Zeldin character, you know, he ran for, I think, Governor of New York. He was always on Gutfeld.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, really?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, he was another Fox guy. Everybody.

[John C. Dvorak]

Another Fox guy.

[Adam Curry]

But, you know, but it's. But you put those guys. You get those guys because he had the chops. You mean he was a politician, but you put him on TV for a long enough time so they get used to being in with the cameras and the whole, you know, so they become savvy, media savvy, which is, you know, you don't have to go through training. You just get that way because you're on the air all the time. And so you make him the guy.

[Unknown]

Boom.

[Adam Curry]

You bring him in and he's, you know, and he knows. He's not shy, so he doesn't go. He doesn't freeze up. Yeah, I liked it when he was on. He was kind of funny. He wasn't real funny, but he was funny enough. And I didn't know they were grooming him, though.

[Unknown]

That.

[Adam Curry]

That's interesting.

[John C. Dvorak]

And actually, I do have a final, final clip because it was just. It was just funny. Then it was completely unnecessary, but still very funny. This is the misgendering. The misgendering of Representative Keith Self, who misgendered representative Sarah McBride. Oh, this was just a horrible moment. It's a horrible moment. What have we come to?

[Unknown]

And now recognize the representative from Delaware, Mr. McBride. Thank you, madam Chair. Ranking Member Keating, also wonderful.

[John C. Dvorak]

Chairman, could you repeat your introduction again, please?

[Unknown]

Yes, it's. It's a. We have set the standard on the floor of the House, and I'm simply.

[John C. Dvorak]

What is that standard? Mr. Chairman, would you repeat what you just said? You introduced a duly elected representative from the United States of America.

[Adam Curry]

Please.

[Unknown]

I will. The representative from Delaware, Mr. McBride.

[John C. Dvorak]

Mr. Chairman, you are out of order. Mr. Chairman, have you no decency? I mean, I've come to know you a little bit, but this is not decent.

[Unknown]

We will continue this.

[John C. Dvorak]

You will not continue it with me unless you introduce a duly elected representative the right way.

[Unknown]

This hearing is adjourned.

[Adam Curry]

Now, what was interesting about that clip is that the. The transgender person that. The woman.

[John C. Dvorak]

McBride. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

She had no objection to any of it. She was gonna yak away. But this guy.

[John C. Dvorak]

But she got back to him and said, thank you, Ms. Chairwoman. Which was funny. That was, that was. That was. She had a great reply. He it thing.

[Adam Curry]

And so it was like, but who's this, this guy was. I guess this.

[John C. Dvorak]

Bill Keating. Bill Keating from Massachusetts.

[Adam Curry]

He's out of line.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. Out of order. I, I think they should have just continued. I thought it was perfectly hilarious. Thank you, Mr.

[Unknown]

Chairwoman.

[Adam Curry]

Fine. It was going to go along and this guy had to butt in with his, like, his, his politically correct bull crap, you know, like, because I guess the, the woman. Transgender woman can't defend herself. Helpless. Poor thing.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. Huh.

[Adam Curry]

I found that. I found that very.

[John C. Dvorak]

Looks like she could defend herself just fine.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah. She could knock you on your ass.

[Unknown]

I'm gonna show my support by donating to no Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fab. Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

On no Agenda. Again, we have end of show mixes coming up. We have the tip of the day. We've got, we've got some isos to talk about. And wow, we have a nice group of people to thank. We got some good meetups to talk about, some meetup reports. So, John, if you wouldn't mind thanking Everybody who supported US$50 and above today.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Starting with Christopher E. Bart or ebert in Spartansburg, South Carolina. 105 35. Anonymous comes in from Kennet, Kennett Square, Pennsylvania. Is it Kennett or Kennett 100?

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know.

[Adam Curry]

Julie Herbort in. Oh, one of your neighbors. She's in Fredericksburg, Texas.

[John C. Dvorak]

Huh.

[Adam Curry]

You know her? You know Julie?

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't Julie.

[Adam Curry]

She came in with a hundred bucks. You should know her.

[John C. Dvorak]

She come to the, to the, to the chess match on Tuesday. Come hang out at Java Ranch.

[Adam Curry]

Pete lachance in Oviedo, Florida. 8438. Which is a salute from Oviedo. God bless the best podcast in the universe and please add me to the birthday list. That's nice. Edward owens in Alameda, California. 8008. Kevin McLaughlin. There he is with the 8008. As usual. He's the archduke of Luna, lover of America and lover of boobs.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yay.

[Adam Curry]

Eric Marshall, Klamath Falls, Oregon. 75. I need some karma. We'll put it at the end for him if you make a note. Daniel Calabro in Randolph County, Vermont. 69. Alan Huffman in Urbandale, Iowa. 6809. And that's the Blofeld donation.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Which. Keeping up with Andrew Foreman in Boca Raton. 6331. Please de douche me. You've been de douched. He credits Dvorak's departure from being invited to twit as my reason for starting to listen. Twit sucks without him, he says. Interesting.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well, that's true. It's true. Down hill from there.

[Adam Curry]

Steve Banstra, Baron of BNA, 6993. Christopher Dector, 5678. Michael Racinelli in North Riverside, Illinois. 5509. And he's got a birthday. He's turning 55. Edwin. Edwin Visser in.

[John C. Dvorak]

Not even close.

[Adam Curry]

Netherlands. He's in Holland, that guy. Chad Shackelf. Shackford Shackford in Greensboro, North Carolina. 5272. Okay, these are all $50 donations, and I'll just read them off as such. MP in Raleigh, North Carolina, Carolina. Steve Botts is.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think it's Boltz.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, it's Boltz. I thought it was a T. He says, john H. Of Chanhassen stole my apple.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh.

[Adam Curry]

Oh. What?

[John C. Dvorak]

Tisk. There's a Tisk apple in my room on Gigi donation.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, I get it. Right. Brian Coomer in Salt Lake City, Utah. And this is 5213, which I. It's probably the same. It's a birthday shout out for my lovely wife, Karen. Rab. Rab, Rab. Rabbi Rab. Sandeen. Sandal and sandal and. 51. I'll get it. Michael Shelton in Hannibal, N.Y. 51. And he says you rule by count, sir. Economic hitman in Tomball, Texas. 5001 and be back to $50 donations. These are the real ones that say 50. Michelle Petty in Grand Forks, North Dakota. Stephen Schumach in Xenia, Ohio. Terrance Phillips in Florence, Montana. He likes the newsletter. Doesn't listen to the. The podcast.

[John C. Dvorak]

Keep donating before. Yeah, it's better for less bandwidth. You are really helping us. Thank you.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it's a double help.

[John C. Dvorak]

Great for the show.

[Adam Curry]

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[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, Alito. Alito. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

I want to thank these people for making show 17:46 the Good show that it became.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. Alito, Texas, home of the wall builders, Tim and David Barton. It's a very nice place, Alito. Thank you all so much for your support of episode 1746. Thank you to everyone who came in under $50. We never mention those to make sure you stay completely anonymous. I see you. $49.99 a karma, as requested. Here we go with that.

[Unknown]

You've got Karma.

[John C. Dvorak]

And again, thanks to our executive and associate executive producers for this episode. Those are titles and credits that you can keep forever. And remember, you can always set up a recurrence. Recurring donation noagendadonations.com any amount, any frequency. Everything that you do helps the show and we really appreciate it. No agenda donations dot com. Dame Janet wishes Bill Webb a happy birthday. That's belated. He celebrated on March 1st. Michael Rancanelli turned 55 on the 9th. Steph Ledingham of Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. He turned 30, 39 yesterday. Ryan Coomer, his lovely wife Karen celebrated, celebrates today and she turns 52 years old. Dame Janet celebrates her birthday on the 15th. And Pete Lachanze will be celebrating on April 11th. Getting in nice and early. We say happy birthday to all of these people on behalf of the best podcast in the universe. And we have three title changes today. Baronet Sir Data Ops, the Wisconsin Millennial upgrades with another $1,000 in accumulative donations to Baron Sir Spatial Support, the Wisconsin Millennial. Congratulations. Sir Hoopensacker becomes Sir Hoop. And Soccer Baron of the Psychedelic Overmind and related Dimensions, the Viscount of Nursere. We think. We think that's the correct way to pronounce it. And then we have a number of commodores. We have a nice list here. We've got Commodore Troy Lafferty, Commodore Sir Fur. Commodore Thomas Kilbride, Commodore Kumar of the Seven Seas. Commodore SNDR of Middle Road, Middleroda. And Commodore Archduchess Kim, Keeper of the Nutty Fluffers. Commodore arriving and go to. Let us know exactly what you want on your Commodore certificate, and we'll get that out to you as soon as possible. Of course. Give us your address as well. And we now thank a. Well, actually, we don't just thank them, we bring them up on the podium. We have two knights in one day. Here is my blade for the trifecta.

[Adam Curry]

There you go.

[John C. Dvorak]

A little more enthusiasm. Pull it out again.

[Adam Curry]

I got to put it back. Here we go.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay. What? Did you get it? I can't see it.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, here it is.

[John C. Dvorak]

I got it. I got it. Hey, Ashlyn Speed. Come on up at the podium along with Troy Lafferty and Brennan Keller. All three of you now become knights and dame of the no Agenda Roundtable. I'm very proud to pronounce the KV as Dame Ashlyn Speed. Put it on your car. Sir Troy from the land of Psyops. And Sir Commodore Brennan of the Black Sword. And he is a black knight. I'll read his might in a moment because we messed that up thanks to you. You now have some mutton to me at the table. But also hookers and below rent boys. And Chardonnay 1990 Lynch VAG, rattlesnake chili, wild boar medallions. And we also got some geisha and sake Reuben Esque Room and Rose ginger ale and gerbils. And the aforementioned mutton and mead. Yes, we forgot tonight Brendan Keller on the previous show. And. And here was his note. The sad puppy in the newsletter always pulls at the heart. How could I resist a call to action like that? This donation puts me over the top for knighthood status. Henceforth, I'd like to be known as Sir Commodore Brennan of the Black Swap. Please add, we had that. We actually had the nufla soup at the roundtable on the last show, but we completely forgot to knight him. So he will now be known as a black knight. Which is pretty special. Doesn't happen off on the show, but it does happen from time to time. Go to noagenderrings.com There's a ring sizing guide. Let us know what s size you want. We'll send it to you with the certificate of authenticity. And we have a nice little stick of wax which you can use to seal your important correspondence with because it is an actual signet ring. And welcome once again, dame and knight to the Now Agenda no Agenda Round table. I'm losing it. Yeah, baby. It's like a big party. And they had a party in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Here's their meetup report.

[Adam Curry]

Hi, this is Drew, future head of.

[Unknown]

The Department of Government Efficiency in New.

[John C. Dvorak]

Mexico in the morning.

[Unknown]

This is Sarah, the secretary of Drew. This is Dame Heather of the Lost Boys of Santa Fe, New Mexico. In the morning.

[John C. Dvorak]

In the morning.

[Unknown]

This is Jeff from Albuquerque, the land of the Mars Rover. I'm not part of any of his department yet. I'm waiting to get the Senate here. Hearings on that.

[John C. Dvorak]

And Colorado Springs had a meet up.

[Unknown]

This is Colorado, Care Bear. Check it in from the meetup here in Colorado Springs.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is M. Andrew Jones coming you from America's mountain where we're eating the pets.

[Unknown]

This is Josh the Simpson coming from North Aurora. I am single slave nation and I am looking for one of those genetically modified woolly mammoth girlfriends. Rocky Mountain milk maid. Enjoying our monthly meal.

[John C. Dvorak]

Cousin Vito wishing everybody grace, peace and strength.

[Unknown]

God bless.

[Adam Curry]

This is Clayton. Night stalkers don't quit. This is Justin.

[John C. Dvorak]

What up, slaves?

[Unknown]

In the morning. In the morning.

[John C. Dvorak]

Remember to put your servers in these meetup reports, people. They always enjoy it and it gets another soul to the table. Finally, just in under the wire this morning. Dame Yison with the Orlando meetup report in the morning.

[Unknown]

John and Adam, this is Damien here at our Orlando meetup with Sir Patrick Coble. We had some great pizza. You guys are amazing. Noted. This is Duke of the South, Patrick Coble. Yum yum. This is Matt, resident douchebag. I'm sorry, we'll donate this.

[Adam Curry]

Eric.

[Unknown]

First meetup also douchebag, but been listening for a year and a half. And ITM Sean, AKA sir face tension here and nobody's getting cornholed tonight. This is Sir Dave of the Gunshine State.

[John C. Dvorak]

Everyone had a great time and thank.

[Unknown]

You for your courage. Also it's pronounced Dave. Matthew and Fuquay Varina.

[Adam Curry]

Bye.

[John C. Dvorak]

In the morning Fuquay Varina. One of these days we'll remember we'll get it right Fuquay Marina. Fuquay. Whatever. Meetups taking place.

[Adam Curry]

For some reason, it's not memorable.

[John C. Dvorak]

Fuquay Fuquay. The shrunken amygdala Support Group 2.0 meets tonight at 7:00 at March 1st Brewing in Cincinnati, Ohio. On Saturday, the no Agenda Dallas Fort Worth Mid Cities meetup kicks off at 11:30am that's morning time. But don't worry, you'll be able to drink at the Bourbon Street Bar and Grill in Bedford, Texas. Also on Saturday, the Sno Homo One Ball meetup noon at Sound 2 Summit Brewery in Snohomish, Washington. And also on Saturday, the cabbage smash 1:00 Blue Island Brewery in Blue island if Illinois. Many more meetups to be found all the way through the month of June. It's unbelievable all around the world. Go to noagendameetups.com to find out where you can find one near you. Remember, when you meet these people, it's that connection that gives you protection. And of course, these people are your first responders in an emergency. Noagendameetups.com if you can't find one near you, then start one yourself. It's easy. And always a party.

[Unknown]

Sometimes you wanna go hang out with.

[John C. Dvorak]

All the nights and days.

[Unknown]

You wanna be where you won't be triggered on Hell, you wanna be where.

[Adam Curry]

Everybody feels the same. It's like a party.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hey, man, where's your ISOs?

[Adam Curry]

I. We just carried the two over from last show.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, which ones were they? I mean, what do you think I am, some kind of memory machine here.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, you got the. The search thing there. Here, the one you look up. The following.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

ISO.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

We're going to use this one. Better than.

[John C. Dvorak]

Better than.

[Unknown]

That was better than a podcast.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay. And the other one, I thought you're.

[Adam Curry]

Going to pick one and then the other. The other one's. Wow. That.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Unknown]

Wow, that show was hot today.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hmm. I have contenders. I have this one.

[Unknown]

It's so freaking good.

[John C. Dvorak]

You like that one?

[Adam Curry]

Got cut off.

[John C. Dvorak]

I actually, you know, I've been blown away by the quality of your ISOs, and I think I've figured it out, what you're doing. I figured out what your. Well, is. It took me. Me a little bit, but then I realized you're not getting these isos from. From. From audio books or anything like that. John's been using AI for end of show isos. All this time, dude, you've been using AI voices. You have not been. You have not been clipping this from anything else. You've been making them on 11 labs or something like that. Admit it.

[Adam Curry]

After three and a half.

[John C. Dvorak]

Months, I finally figured it out. It's cheating.

[Adam Curry]

It is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. That's cheating. I thought. I've been sitting here going, like, how does he get these great ISOs? People are emailing me ISOs. Oh, maybe this one can compete with John. And then all of a sudden, these are AI voices. Another great show, Boomers. See, I can make them, too. I think mine's better. I have more creativity. Another great show, Boomers. Yeah, we're using that one.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, now. Okay, I want to. Oh, all right, I admit it. Ah. Now I'm gonna. I'm gonna add a little. A tidbit to it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

Mimi, it was.

[John C. Dvorak]

What, you're gonna blame it on Mimi now?

[Adam Curry]

No, no. Three months ago, when I started this gambit.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow.

[Adam Curry]

She says you shouldn't do that. That's not. That's cheating. That's not fair.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it is.

[Adam Curry]

And I says, he'll never catch me. I said, don't worry about it. She says, I don't like. I don't like you doing that. And I should play her a couple of clips. Those are pretty good. She liked them. But.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow, you kept that going for months.

[Adam Curry]

Months.

[John C. Dvorak]

And I was like, I mean, do.

[Adam Curry]

You at least three and a half months.

[John C. Dvorak]

Are people sending you audiobooks or I'm like, how is he getting this stuff? And then all of a sudden I'm like, ah, this is a scam.

[Adam Curry]

She told me I was going to get caught.

[John C. Dvorak]

And she's right.

[Adam Curry]

And I said it'll take you months to figure this out.

[John C. Dvorak]

Mimi Dvorak, author of Too ManyEggs.com the best book in the universe. No thanks to John C. Dvorak. But that doesn't matter. Here's another tip from John C. Dvorak and sometimes Adam, created by Dana Brunetti.

[Adam Curry]

I've been meaning to promote this for a while now. It involves a clip. If we have how much time do we have on the show?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, we got some time. What do you, I mean, we're, we're way over. I mean, as long as you don't after the show, to them.

[Adam Curry]

It is too long. But the, this is what triggered this, this tip of the day. This is the FBI phony baloney. Just Denver TV7 and this is about a bogus. Oh, the scam, scam, scam report from the FBI. It's right at the beginning of the clip list.

[Unknown]

Let's listen to your point on on immigrants and crime. His mayor, Denver Mayor Michael Johnson.

[John C. Dvorak]

Migrants did not bring a wave of crime to Denver.

[Unknown]

In fact, crime went down.

[Adam Curry]

Homicides. No, that's a no, no, no. It's the tips that be be such a b. Bogus FBI.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, you said Denver and then I know, I understand. It's your fault.

[Unknown]

And whether you're downloading a video from YouTube or converting a document into a PDF, you could be handing your information right over to scammers. New this morning, Denver 7 investigative reporter. Now, Natalie Chuck sat down with an FBI agent with a warning about those conversion sticks.

[John C. Dvorak]

And what happens is somebody goes to.

[Unknown]

A site that will convert their word processing document to a PDF or do some sort of download or conversion to audio files or picture files. That download could be putting onto your computer or your network some malware software that would then allow criminals to come back into your network or your computer.

[John C. Dvorak]

And conduct further criminal activity. Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Curry]

It doesn't go from there. We just there's no details. It's just blah, blah, blah. This is anytime you download from the Internet, you can get something can happen. So one of the product you have to have, everybody has to have this product. And there's a couple of different kinds of products that do this. But this is the one I like best because I had a situation about three or four years ago that none of these things would get rid of this. Some, some malware that was on my machine. But this did is spy and it's called Spy Hunter 5.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, this is your favorite.

[Adam Curry]

This is my favorite because it works and you run it all the time. And I'm telling that anyone who does any downloads off the Internet, you have to run this product every so often, if not daily. And you. And it finds all kinds of crazy stuff. And I'll tell you this, if anybody fools around illegally downloading movies or records or goes to Pirate Bay or any of those sites, any of those, all the download sites drop malware onto your machine. They usually adware. It's the stuff that goes in there and it puts it. So you say random ads on your computer start showing up, just gets rid of them. Most antivirus stuff doesn't do anything about that. And the problem is it's not like you get one of these things on, on your machine, it causes a problem. It's like you get multiple ones on your machine and you have five of these items, five of these, these ad. Ad dropping things on your machine. They cut, they start to fight with each other and the next thing you know, the machines are running like a pig. It's ridiculous. So you need spy, you need this anti spyware product. And spot. And this is the best one, Spy Hunters, the best one I've. I found. And we do have sir jd, the baron of Silicon Valley, who seems to be overboard, works for a competitive company, does another one, but I haven't, we haven't heard from him. I don't know what happened to him, but he's overboard. But this is a product I would recommend, everybody get. And I would recommend a subscription if you, you know, because you need a subscription for it to work. But I'll tell you this, the latest, the latest operation, besides all the pirate sites that do this, they all drops this adware crap on your machine. Is RT Russian.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

RT now has one of these systems and they drop it. You go RT and look at one of their play a clip, boom, you got it on your machine. It's got to be taken off.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, that is a good tip. It's not a new tip. You've given me this tip before I've talked about.

[Adam Curry]

But it's not official tip of the day now it is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, my tip is pay for your movies. People stop downloading it illegally. Just pay for your content and stop going to only fans nrt. And that is your tip of the day. Find [e-mail].

[Unknown]

And sometimes Adam created by Dana Bernetti.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't have any spyware. Never have any spyware that I. My machine's not running like a pig, so I must not have spyware. I do have Spy Hunter 5 though, but not the subscription I use. The free thing. Is the free thing okay?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah. They're all good.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And for Vantivirus, get the vast the free version of Avast.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's pretty good. There's a bunch of different or just use Linux. Use Linux, people. Much better.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Well, there you go.

[John C. Dvorak]

End of show mix is Professor Jay Jones, Tom Starkweather and Neil Jones. The clip custodian in the Reprise is from 2019, but it sounds like it was made yesterday. Coming up next on the no Agenda stream, at Trollroom IO we have the mere mortals book reviews the secrets behind the 48 laws. It's a brand new one, so you'll want to stick around for that. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas hill country right here in Fredericksburg, where it's spring break in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry.

[Adam Curry]

And from northern Silicon Valley, where we had another river of hell or atmospheric river that crapped out. It's nice and sunny out. I'm John C. Dvorak.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hey, we'll be back on Sunday. Remember us atnoenge donations.com. until then, adios mo foes and such.

[Adam Curry]

Chris.

[Unknown]

Whiplash. A whiplash. More whiplash from President Trump.

[John C. Dvorak]

Lot of whiplash. It's time for a whiplash. Lash that whip. There you go. Whiplash. Markets are crashing, John. Markets are crashing. Lash that whip. Whiplash on the terrace.

[Unknown]

Feels like whiplash.

[Adam Curry]

It stinks.

[John C. Dvorak]

And also lash that whip.

[Adam Curry]

Terrible. It's terrible.

[Unknown]

President Trump's on again, off again, last and whip.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm on the brink, honey. Once I get that guy out of here, it'll be all me. It'll be all me.

[Unknown]

Constant whiplash. This is not the first time the president has threatened or imposed tariffs and.

[Adam Curry]

Pulled back a lot of whiplash.

[Unknown]

On again, off again is at a curling center in Toronto.

[Adam Curry]

Canadian sport. And I heard there's whiplash.

[John C. Dvorak]

A lot of whiplash. Yeah, whiplash.

[Adam Curry]

Talking about curling, the on again, off again tariffs. Well, I, I always think of curling.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's just, that's, that's all your gear, man. It's nothing to do with me.

[Unknown]

Last that whip. More whiplash from President Trump.

[John C. Dvorak]

A lot of whiplash Well, I, I.

[Adam Curry]

Always think of curling.

[Unknown]

That's that whip.

[Adam Curry]

I heard there's whiplash.

[Unknown]

The on again, off again, tariffs.

[John C. Dvorak]

Time for a whiplash.

[Unknown]

That's a whip it.

[Adam Curry]

A lot of whiplash.

[Unknown]

A whiplash. Lust it good.

[Adam Curry]

Terrible. It's terrible.

[Unknown]

That's a whip it.

[Adam Curry]

Constant whiplash.

[John C. Dvorak]

On again, off again, flash it good.

[Adam Curry]

He said we're gonna put tariffs on Mexico. Well, Senator said.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wait a minute.

[Unknown]

Yeah. Republicans on the Hill haven't shown a whole lot of willingness to stand up for this president. He's got a 90% approval rating among Republican voters and all the Republican senators know that. And every month those tariffs go from 5% to 10% to 50, 15% to 20 and then to 25%. Hence the color orange. If tariffs is what it takes to get Mexico to do better on their.

[John C. Dvorak]

Side of the border, I'm all for tariffs. President Trump has a habit of proposing.

[Unknown]

Asinine and dangerous policies before backing off.

[Adam Curry]

It would be my hope that they're going to work out things so the tariffs don't go into effect.

[Unknown]

It just will not work. And this will directly and immediately affect the American consumer. So maybe it's just a threat, who knows? I mean, he said, the last thing that he said is that he's quite, he's deadly serious.

[John C. Dvorak]

When you say you and I know, I don't know that at all.

[Adam Curry]

Here's what I know.

[Unknown]

I don't know whether to believe it or not. I say in this job, I know what I'm told, not what I know. But I do know that if we secure the Mexican Guatemalan border, that would be a great way to stop folks coming all the way across. But we're not talking about override.

[John C. Dvorak]

We haven't seen anything yet except the tweet.

[Unknown]

A tweet. Mitch McConnell finally found his testicles cuz it's near his wallet.

[John C. Dvorak]

People have endured much worse than expensive avocados or a few more dollars here and there.

[Unknown]

And for the average American, Brook, that is no small amount of money. A lot of money. $1,300, any brand, of course, with avocado on the menu will be impacted by this tariff. I'm not blaming President Trump here, I'm blaming the Congress because we can't do our job, as you know, we have with President Trump being kind of a roller coaster. So sometimes it's going up, sometimes it's coming down.

[Adam Curry]

This man has lost more money than any other American person on the planet. This guy has lost more money than anybody.

[Unknown]

Potentially concerning new mutations in the birth. First severe human case of bird flu. The nation's first severe case of bird flu. The first human case of bird flu. When you hear the words severe case, should we be worried?

[Adam Curry]

Bird flu is bird flu and humans super dangerous.

[Unknown]

That means we're not testing enough. And we know from other viruses that a lot of the spread can be asymptomatic. We should be having rapid tests, home tests available to all farm workers, to their families.

[John C. Dvorak]

Bird flu.

[Adam Curry]

Bird flu.

[Unknown]

What we need to be doing is a whole lot more testing.

[Adam Curry]

Bird flu. Bird flu.

[Unknown]

Bird. Bird flu.

[Adam Curry]

Bird flu.

[Unknown]

Bird flu.

[John C. Dvorak]

Bird Flufo Dvorak.org N A Another great show, boomers.