1747 - "HiFi Intel"

Summary

Podcast Summary: No Agenda - Episode 1747 "HiFi Intel"

Release Date: March 16, 2025
Hosts: Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak

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1. Local Update: Crab Apple Wildfire in Gillespie County, Texas

Timestamp: [02:04] – [07:21]

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak begin the episode by discussing the massive Crab Apple wildfire engulfing over 8,600 acres in Gillespie County, Texas, situated 10 miles north of Fredericksburg. The wildfire remains 0% contained, prompting evacuations and community efforts to manage the disaster.

John C. Dvorak: "We've been under red flag watch. The wind was 40, gusting 50. Luckily, it was eastward, otherwise, we would have been in trouble." [03:27]

The hosts commend local responders, including helicopter pilots and water plane crews, for their relentless efforts despite challenging conditions. They also highlight the resilience of small-town America in the face of natural disasters.

2. International Affairs: US Strikes Against Houthis in Yemen

Timestamp: [07:21] – [17:08]

The conversation shifts to international concerns, focusing on the United States' large-scale military strikes against Houthi targets in Yemen. Referencing BBC reports, the hosts discuss President Donald Trump's decisive actions aimed at curbing Houthi attacks on commercial shipping routes in the Red Sea, which are perceived as aligned with Iranian interests.

Adam Curry: "Isn't this the guy, dude, he's got the biggest balls in the business." [08:08]

John C. Dvorak emphasizes the strategic importance of these strikes in disrupting maritime security and pressuring Iran regarding nuclear negotiations. The discussion touches upon the potential escalation to ground forces and the broader implications for Middle Eastern geopolitics.

John C. Dvorak: "This is an effort to take away their ability to control global shipping in that part of the world. That's just not going to happen anymore." [08:15]

3. Political Analysis: Senate Spending Bill and Democratic Party Dynamics

Timestamp: [35:14] – [51:01]

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to the analysis of Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer's unexpected decision to vote alongside Republicans to pass a short-term spending bill, thereby averting a government shutdown. This move has caused notable rifts within the Democratic Party, leading to accusations of betrayal from party members who feel their voices and strategies are being undermined.

John C. Dvorak: "Senate Democrats voted alongside Republicans, causing frustration and anger among House Democrats." [39:25]

The hosts explore the implications of this decision on Democratic unity and future legislative negotiations, highlighting concerns that this discord may weaken the party's ability to effectively counter Republican agendas.

4. US Media Policies: Defunding of Voice of America

Timestamp: [50:00] – [121:59]

Adam and John delve into President Trump's executive order aimed at slashing the US government's foreign broadcasting efforts, particularly targeting Voice of America (VOA). The order places over a thousand VOA employees on administrative leave, signaling a reduction in America's global media influence.

Adam Curry: "If America steps away from the free press and abandons all the outlets, America's geopolitical enemies are just waiting for that." [80:47]

The discussion criticizes the move as a step back from championing press freedom, comparing VOA's shutdown to biased media narratives and expressing concern over the loss of a credible platform for spreading American values internationally.

5. Immigration and Security: The Case of Mahmoud Khalil

Timestamp: [74:00] – [99:58]

The hosts examine the case of Mahmoud Khalil, a lawful permanent resident at Columbia University facing deportation due to alleged support for Hamas. They scrutinize the government's justification for revoking his green card under Section 237A, 4Ci of the Immigration Nationality Act, which permits deportation if one's presence poses a serious foreign policy risk.

Adam Curry: "If he had told us he was going to support Hamas, we never would have given him the visa. Now he's here, he lied, so he's out." [65:24]

John C. Dvorak questions the transparency and evidence provided in such immigration cases, suggesting possible intelligence affiliations and conspiracy theories surrounding Khalil's deportation.

6. Media Critique and Satire

Timestamp: [100:00] – [198:20]

Throughout the episode, Adam and John employ sharp satire to critique mainstream media outlets like NPR, CBS, and MSNBC. They mock the efficiency, bias, and perceived scandals within these organizations, often juxtaposing their own show's independence against the criticized media's shortcomings.

John C. Dvorak: "They should doge that place. Oh, is that a verb?" [147:26]

The hosts also lampoon societal issues such as political town halls, public health discussions, and media endorsements, weaving humor and cynicism to underscore their viewpoints.

7. Listener Donations and Credits

Timestamp: [128:20] – [199:46]

In a lengthy and humorous segment, Adam and John acknowledge listener donations, granting satirical titles like "Commodore" and "Duke" to contributors. This portion is filled with playful banter, mock titles, and fictional accolades, serving as both entertainment and a nod to their supporter community.

John C. Dvorak: "No Agenda is truly the best podcast in the universe. I enjoy listening with my human resource future Ms. Little." [144:43]

8. Public Health and Miscellaneous Topics

Timestamp: [105:00] – [173:00]

The hosts touch upon various topics, including:

• Public Health: Discussions about bird flu's impact on animals and potential human mutations, critiquing government responses and media narratives.

• Economic Commentary: Mocking financial analysts and market predictions, emphasizing skepticism toward mainstream economic advice.

• Product Recommendations: Introducing humorous tips like using hypochloric acid-based toilet cleaners, blending genuine advice with satire.

Adam Curry: "Steak N Shake says it has recently switched from frying with seed oil to beef tallow. It credits U.S. health Secretary Robert F... [195:30]"

9. Conclusion

Timestamp: [199:46] – [200:42]

The episode wraps up with final remarks on political strategies, international relations, and continued skepticism toward media and governmental institutions. The hosts emphasize their commitment to transparency and alternative narratives, encouraging listeners to support their independent podcast.

Alex: "Thank you so much for supporting the show. Stay caffeinated and tune in next week for more no Agenda deconstruction." [Final Moments]

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Notable Quotes:

• John C. Dvorak: "No, no, no, it's right on cue, really, if you think about it." [06:55]

• Adam Curry: "They have all these different reasons and then all the Democrats turned on Schumer." [38:46]

• John C. Dvorak: "Senate Democrats voted alongside Republicans, causing frustration and anger among House Democrats." [39:25]

• Adam Curry: "What's the derivative?" [00:54]

• John C. Dvorak: "This is a very good thing. Get rid of it." [22:32]

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Final Thoughts:

Episode 1747 of No Agenda offers a blend of local disaster coverage, in-depth international analysis, sharp political critique, and satirical commentary on media and societal norms. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak maintain a consistent tone of skepticism toward mainstream narratives, advocating for independent perspectives and community-driven discussions. The episode successfully navigates complex topics while engaging listeners with humor and pointed observations.

Transcript

[Adam Curry]

Oh, I get it.

[John C. Dvorak]

You're a boomer. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Sunday, March 16, 2025. This is your award winning Gibbonation Media Assassination Episode 1747. This is no Agenda, lightly toasted but not burned and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill country here in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody.

[Adam Curry]

I'm Adam Curry and I'm from northern Silicon Valley where I should take the phone off the hook. I'm John C. Dvorak.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's crack.

[Adam Curry]

Vaughn Buzzk.

[John C. Dvorak]

Was it ringing? Was that. What the. Was that the problem? It was ringing. It was ringling. Dingling.

[Adam Curry]

Probably will ring a ling.

[John C. Dvorak]

Dingling.

[Adam Curry]

I was thinking the phrase phone off the hook.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, no one knows what that means, Boomer. Even my friends. My.

[Adam Curry]

Do you know what it means?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, of course I know what it means. Even my friends are calling me Boomer.

[Adam Curry]

What's the derivative?

[John C. Dvorak]

The derivative? What do you mean?

[Adam Curry]

I mean what? Phone off What? Okay, okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, back in the day, you had a phone that had the mouthp hanging on a hook.

[Adam Curry]

On a hook, on a hook.

[John C. Dvorak]

And when it was you hung it up on the hook, then the phone was disengaged from the network and ready to accept calls. But if you take it off the hook, it would engage and you would get a beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, or whatever. I don't remember what the busy signal sounds like. Something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody, welcome to Boomer Talk with Adam and John. I am literally people who are my friends are now calling me Boomer. It doesn't even matter when you were born. At a certain point it's like, oh, he's 60. He's got to be a boomer. Just Boomer should just be 60.

[Adam Curry]

It's because you're so knowledgeable. That's what it is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hello? Yes, good point. Ah, but it's kind of ruins the show.

[Adam Curry]

How do you know all these things? Oh, I get it. You're a boomer.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's a good point. Oh, wow. I never thought of it that way. You've. You've once again changed my perception. Thank you. And that feels much better.

[Adam Curry]

You're very welcome.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I don't know if you heard the news tonight. We're continuing our coverage of the massive Crab Apple fire burning in Gillespie County. That's 10 miles north of Fredericksburg. According to the latest update, the wildfire is over 8,600 acres and a 0% contained. The Zion Lutheran Church on Main street in Fredericksburg is hosting all evacuees. Crews are encouraging everyone who lives between Highway 16 north and FM 1631 in Ranch Road 1323 and Ranch Road 2721 to evacuate. Well, this was rather exciting.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. I got a couple of notes, hoping you're gonna be okay. And then I hear it's 10 miles away. And it's. Somebody says 9,000 acres on fire. And to me, California, that. That's a minor nuisance. Get out the garden hose.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I mean, well, the.

[Adam Curry]

And 10 miles is a long haul.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. Now, had the wind shifted, we would have been in trouble. But this really started. This even started on Friday. We've been under red flag watch.

[Adam Curry]

Do you have a lot of brush around your house?

[John C. Dvorak]

The grass is dry. We still have, all over Texas, a lot of dead trees from the snowpocalypse. Removing a dead tree is not cheap.

[Adam Curry]

No, it's good burning wood.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. So there's good burning wood literally sticking out of the ground. And the wind was 40, gusting 50. Luckily, it was going eastward, otherwise we would have been in trouble. Now, many of our friends, many people we know, had to evacuate. Most have been okay. We're not exactly sure of the damage, but some homes have burned out. I've always have always. Whenever I drive through Texas and I see, you know, like 45 acres for sale, I'm like, I don't know if I'd want to live there with my farmhouse for this very reason. But, man, it started on Friday because we have pretty good, you know, the church ladies group, text group is pretty good. So Tina says, oh, man, this is Friday. Tina says, oh, man, there's smoke over by Lara Logan's place. Now that's just down the road from here. So I grab a fire extinguisher, like I know what I'm doing, jump in the car, speed over there. There's her husband Joe, kind of like walking around sheepishly. Oh, yeah, yeah, it was a little. Something caught fire and we put it out with the hose, but that's how kind of ready I was for something to happen. And then we were coming home. We actually went shopping yesterday near San Antonio. And we start, you know, the phone starts blowing up and as we're driving and now we're. We're miles away from home. And you could see the smoke. It was quite large. And now I didn't have to worry because, of course, our roof is painted blue. So I had no, no, no fear of anything. But, man, small town America is great in these situations. There were kids, you know, like 19 year olds putting horse trailers onto their truck, you know, hooking them up to their trucks, going out there, getting horses out. Cattle was being herded away. But it was, it was pretty significant. Austin was blanketed in smoke and that's 80 miles away. And so, yeah, so we're okay. And I appreciate everyone asking and kudos to the, not just the, the helicopter pilots who do with the big bucket, but they have these water planes where the, the whole plane is basically one big bucket of water. And they were taking off three at a time from our airport. That's pretty gnarly if you've got, you know, 40, 40 knot wind crosswind, gusting 50, and they would go out, drop their water, come back, fill up again, go out. So it was pretty intense for a little bit there. But yes, 10 miles is quite a ways away, so we were safe. But, you know, it's typical. Everyone hears Fredericksburg and they think Curry's on fire.

[Adam Curry]

You've been on fire for years.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, there it is. There it is. But I'll have more of a report on Thursday if there's anything to let people know about. But it was nice. We don't need fema. Everyone else jumped in and just worked together. Oh, except for the. The 50 delusional Dems who throughout the whole afternoon were still protesting Elon Musk on the corner across from city Hall. They're like, get out of Ukraine. Help Ukraine. Go away, Elon. Meanwhile, people are rolling up to the fire station with water and all kinds of stuff, and they're just out there protesting, like completely delusional. It's really quite interesting, Elon. Yeah, the delusional Dems, man, it's something to behold. It really is. So, yeah, there's a lot going on.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Well, let's talk about. First of all, they're bombing the hell out of the Houthis.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I got some clips. What you got on the Houthis?

[Adam Curry]

I got the BBC clip and then I've got two analysis clips from the BBC from a different report. This again is the BBC World Service.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

Hooked on. Because it's a short wave stuff, you know.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let me see. Coming to you live from London, this is the BBC World Service. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And actually they do make that. Did it, did it?

[John C. Dvorak]

I know they do. I know they do. The United States has launched large scale strikes against Houthi targets in Yemen. Donald Trump said, wow, where'd this guy come from?

[Adam Curry]

Isn't this the guy, dude, he's got.

[John C. Dvorak]

The biggest balls in the business.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I heard this guy he's not on all the time, but when he's on, he's like giving it to you. Whoa.

[John C. Dvorak]

BBC World Service. The United States has launched large scale strikes against Houthi targets in Yemen. Donald Trump said he had ordered decisive and powerful military action. The Houthi run health ministry said at least 13 people were killed and nine more wounded. Merlin Thomas reports now from Washington. The American president warned that hell would rain down on the Houthis unless they stopped attacking commercial shipping routes in and around the Red Sea. He also warned Iran that he would hold it fully accountable for the actions of its allies. The Houthis have been targeting maritime routes, saying they're acting in solidarity with Palestinians over Israel's war with Hamas in Gaza. This latest move to target the group in Yemen appears to be Donald Trump's opening salvo to try to force Iran to the negotiating table over a nuclear agreement. President Trump has previously said that he'd like to make a deal with Tehran to limit their nuclear capabilities. Now, before we go to the analysis, you want to hear Rubio from this morning on CBS Face the nation. Yes, Mr. Secretary, for our audience, just to explain, this Red Sea area is a really important transit point for global shipping. The Houthis out of Yemen have been disrupting transit there for some time. President Trump cited these concerns when he announced the strikes. I'm wondering how long will this campaign last and will it involve ground forces? Well, first of all, the problem here is that this is a very important shipping lane. And in the last year and a half, the last 18 months, the Houthis have struck or attacked 174 naval vessels of the United States, attacking the US Navy directly 174 times and 145 times they've attacked commercial shipping. So we basically have a band of pirates, you know, with guided precision anti ship weaponry and exacting a toll system in one of the most important shipping lanes in the world. That's just not sustainable. We are not going to have these people controlling which ships can go through and which ones cannot. And so your question is, how long will this go on? It will go on until they no longer have the capability to do that. Yeah. I'll just play one more. This is my favorite thing.

[Adam Curry]

Rubio cracks me up.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah. No, and he'll CR. Crack you up even more of this because we're doing the world a favor, people. Well, what does U.S. intelligence tell us at this point? Because the U.S. had been construct conducting strikes for some time, but has not stopped the Houthis. So what's going to be different right now. Do you have more fidelity in the intelligence that would make this more successful? Well, those strikes were a retaliation strike. So they launched one missile. We hit the missile launcher or we sent something to do it. This is not a message. This is not a one off. This is an effort to deny them the ability to continue to constrict and control shipping. And it's just not going to happen. We're not going to have these guys, these people with weapons able to tell us where our ships can go, where the ships of all the world can go. By the way, it's not just the U.S. we're doing the world a favor. We're doing the entire world a favor by getting rid of these guys and their ability to strike global shipping. That's the mission here. And it will continue until that's carried out. This is an effort to take away their ability to control global shipping in that part of the world. That's just not going to happen anymore. And it could continue until that's finished. It could involve ground raids. Well, those are military decisions to be made. But I've heard no talk of ground rates. I don't think there's a necessity for it right now. I can tell you that as of last night, some of the key people involved in those missile launches are no longer with us. And I can tell you that some of the facilities that they use are no longer existing. And that will continue. Look, it's bottom line, easy way to understand it, okay? These guys are able to control what ships can go through there. They've attacked the US Navy 174 times. They've attacked the United States Navy. We're not going to have people sitting around with the missiles attacking the US Navy. It's not going to happen, not under President Trump. I particularly like the constant use of these people or those people. And I want Pete Hegson.

[Adam Curry]

He's othering.

[John C. Dvorak]

He's othering. He is othering them.

[Adam Curry]

Can you play the beginning of that clip again? Because there's a little phrase in there I got kick out of.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, just. The president also referenced Iran in his statement. Iran provides some. Sorry, that's not it. This is it. Here we go. Well, what does U.S. intelligence tell us at this point? Because the U.S. had been contract conducting strikes for some time but has not stopped the Houthis. Was she laughing? Did you hear her laughing? There's a little laugh tell in there. Hold on a second. Conducting strikes for some time but has not stopped the Houthis. So what's going to be different right now. Do you have more fidelity in the intelligence? That would make. Yes, we have more fidelity.

[Adam Curry]

Fidelity in the intelligence. It's high five. What kind of. We got high five is that?

[John C. Dvorak]

We got hi fi. Intelligence, baby. Hi fi. Hi fi. Intel.

[Adam Curry]

Hi fi. What'd you put as a show?

[John C. Dvorak]

I just wrote it down. Hi fi.

[Adam Curry]

Intel.

[John C. Dvorak]

I knew I'd get it eventually.

[Adam Curry]

Intelligence.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. Hi fi. Intel.

[Adam Curry]

So that's one of those. It's like a Silicon Valley phrase, only this is for that community.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, that's in line with. What's that phrase that Buzzkill Jr. Was using all the time, the.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, right, I forgot what that is too.

[John C. Dvorak]

The movement, the direction of travel.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. The velocity or something.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, it wasn't. Velocity vector. The thought vector.

[Adam Curry]

Thought vector. Some crazy thing.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's another one I gotta write down. Thought vector.

[Adam Curry]

Thought vector. I like thought vector. We should start. Just use it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, because it sounds.

[Adam Curry]

How's the fidelity of your intelligence today, Adam?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, the thought vector of this boomer is really deep, John, Let me just tell you.

[Adam Curry]

Wow.

[John C. Dvorak]

The direction of my thinking that I can't remember what the. Directionally.

[Adam Curry]

No, I know I called him out on at the dinner.

[John C. Dvorak]

I wish I remembered.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, well, yes, we're. The trolls are becoming. The more boomery you get, the more you do this, the more you forget and you forget, you forget. It's too much.

[John C. Dvorak]

I forget all those things. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

So let's go back to the BBC and we're the analysis part one.

[John C. Dvorak]

That ceasefire of course, is now becoming much more. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. This is part one. The defense analyst Jonathan Marcus told us about the strikes. They seem to have involved jets, armed unmanned aerial vehicles, drones. They've been striking, according to the Americans, radars, weapons stores, missiles, air defenses, that kind of thing. But also a clear indication from the Americans that this could be just the start of a mini air campaign, if you like. This doesn't seem to be just a.

[Adam Curry]

One off set of strikes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Mr. Trump seems to be serious about really delivering a significant blow. But one also has to say that the Houthis have obviously been struck many times before. In the Biden administration, the United Kingdom and the United States attacked Houthi targets a number of times in response to the Houthis strikes on commercial shipping in the Red Sea. And whilst they hit targets and damage I'm sure was done, it didn't seem to deter the Houthis from sticking to their guns, as it were. So we'll have to see now Whether the different administration, an administration that is perhaps less predictable, perhaps more erratic in some ways erratic. Whether that concentrates their minds any better. As you say, this is a different administration. The biggest US Military operation in the Middle east since Donald Trump took office. Why now? Well, it's the biggest military operation since Trump took office, full stop.

[Adam Curry]

I think now for a number of reasons.

[John C. Dvorak]

The Houthis are firm allies of Hamas in the Gaza Strip. Now, those attacks against commercial shipping largely halted in the wake of the ceasefire, if you want to call it that, in Gaza. Hmm. I like the erratic nature of people's understanding of our president. Like, the guy's crazy, you don't know what he's going to do next.

[Adam Curry]

I know that's actually a. Any image you get, it's a plus.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's a plus.

[Adam Curry]

It is a plus. When, in fact, if you follow it closely enough, I think that as we do and others, it's nothing surprising about any of it.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no. It's right on cue, really, if you think about it.

[Adam Curry]

Anyway, onward with part two.

[John C. Dvorak]

That ceasefire, of course, is now becoming much more afraid, much more uncertain, but also, particularly in the last few weeks, the Hoot fired on an American F16 jet missing. Looks as though they probably downed a US Reaper drone, unmanned aerial vehicle, a couple of weeks or so. 10 days. A couple of weeks ago. I'm not entirely sure the precise date. And it seems to have been those attacks against American weapons systems that focused mines in Washington, and President Trump ultimately.

[Adam Curry]

Signed off approval for these attacks that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Have taken place overnight. How does this fit in with M. Trump's Iran strategy? Well, it's very much, as he sees it, part and parcel of that, I mean, to the American administration, really, all American administrations, you know, the Houthis are seen as, in some sense acting, if not at the behest of Iran, certainly clear allies of Tehran. I think many analysts would argue that the Houthis are, to some extent a much more independent actor than just simply a stooge for the Iranians. But Mr. Trump pulled no punt. I mean, in one of his usual sort of capitalized pronouncements, he turned to Iran, and after dealing with the Houthis and said that support for the Houthi terrorists, as he put it, must end immediately. In capitals. Don't threaten the American people, their president, or worldwide shipping lanes. If you do, beware. Capitalized again, because America will hold you fully accountable. So not just the threat to the Houthis by these air attacks, but an implicit and direct threat to Tehran that Washington holds Iran in some way responsible for the Houthis future actions. I think this also may be a part of bringing down the cost of living because that shipping line, a lot of ships have said, no, we're just not going to do it. We're going to go around the long way.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, this is true.

[John C. Dvorak]

That may, you know, the, the, the Jones Brothers syndicate is starting doing something new. Steve Jones, he, he, Sunday is a pretty important day in mainstream media in America because everyone. Oh, we got these important Sunday shows. Oh, it's the very important Sunday shows. So he record, he recorded some more about this Mike Waltz, who is the, he's the envoy, is he not, to the Middle east welds? Isn't he the negotiator? Isn't he the.

[Adam Curry]

I have to have, you know, I should have a chart hanging here with yarn.

[John C. Dvorak]

With yarn and sticky pins.

[Adam Curry]

Yarn and pins.

[John C. Dvorak]

He was on with Martha Raddatz and Mr. Walts. Let me read from what President Trump said on Truth Social. He said to Iran, support for the Houthi terrorists must end immediately. Do not threaten the American people or worldwide shipping lanes. If you do, beware, because America will hold you fully accountable. Does that mean direct military action on Iran is possible? Oh, yeah. Everyone loves this.

[Adam Curry]

What they need is a national security advice.

[John C. Dvorak]

Right? What we need is someone, I don't think it's in this sport. Someone has to say Iran is only two weeks away from the nuclear bomb. I'm just waiting for that.

[Adam Curry]

All options are always on the table with the President. Another, another phrase.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, all options are on the table. Iran needs to hear him loud and clear. It is completely unacceptable and it will be stopped.

[Adam Curry]

The level of support that they've been.

[John C. Dvorak]

Providing the Houthis, just like they have.

[Adam Curry]

Hezbollah, just like they have the militias.

[John C. Dvorak]

In Iraq, Hamas and others. The difference here is the Houthis have incredibly sophisticated air defenses and they also have anti shipping cruise missiles, drones, sea skimming types, anti shipping drones. This is, this is a new thing. Anti shipping or anti ship. I think he meant anti ship air defenses.

[Adam Curry]

And they also have anti shipping cruise missiles.

[John C. Dvorak]

We have free shipping and anti shipping.

[Adam Curry]

Which option do you want me here at Amazon phones?

[John C. Dvorak]

Sea skimming types of attacks, attack drones and other ballistic missiles even. They've launched dozens of attacks on multiple warships. Dozens of attacks, over 175 on global.

[Adam Curry]

Commerce, sank multiple ships.

[John C. Dvorak]

I just think the American people need to understand what has happened here. The previous administration had a series of feckless responses. President Trump is coming in overwhelming force. We will take, we will hold not only the Houthis accountable, but we're going to hold Iran, their backers, accountable as well. And if that means they're targeting ships that they have put in to help their Iranian trainers, IRGC and others that intelligence, other things that they have put in to help the Houthis attack the global economy, those. Those targets will be on the table, too. You hear that? The global economy. There it is. There's part of it. That's part of it. Let's bring down the prices, everybody. Let's shorten up those shipping lanes.

[Adam Curry]

That fits in with the message from Rubio.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, it does. I got one more here. The president said Iran will not be allowed to have a nuclear weapon. A week ago, warning that Iran, something is going to happen very, very soon that will solve the problem if there is no peace deal. Talking about nuclear weapons. So what is he talking about? Is he talking about a possible str on the nuclear facilities by Israel? And would the US Join in that? Yeah, the Jews are going to do it again for us? Well, what the President has completely as repeatedly said is that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. All options are on the table to ensure it does not have one. And that's all aspects of Iran's program. That's the missiles, the weaponization, the enrichment. They can hand it over and give.

[Adam Curry]

It up in a way that is verifiable, or they can face a whole series of other consequences.

[John C. Dvorak]

But either way, we cannot have a world with the Ayatollahs with their finger on the nuclear button. We cannot have a situation that would result in an arms race across the Middle east in terms of nuclear proliferation. And President Trump is determined one way or another. Iran has been offered a way out.

[Adam Curry]

Of this to make sure that we.

[John C. Dvorak]

Don'T have a world that can be.

[Adam Curry]

Threatened by a radical regime, not only.

[John C. Dvorak]

Our ally Israel, but the entire world.

[Adam Curry]

That would be threatened with by a.

[John C. Dvorak]

Radical regime that could destroy not only.

[Adam Curry]

Israel, but its neighbors and have the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Capability to hit the United States. Martha, we cannot imagine a situation like that, and we're not going to have it. We always have to take into account that we hear from our Iranian friends that America and Iran pretty much always work together. The Iranians always like, eh, well, it's a big show. This could be maybe a saving of face in a way, and also shutting down those annoying Houthis. Yeah, you know, it's like it could.

[Adam Curry]

Be something up, but, I mean, it seems to be triggered by the fact that nobody responded to Trump's letter.

[John C. Dvorak]

Right. Didn't they say that they didn't even receive it. Must have gotten lost in the mail.

[Adam Curry]

Lost in the mail?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. When the President of the United States sends a letter, does that go through usps? Because that could take months Internationally.

[Adam Curry]

Well, it's usually. Our side is pretty quick. It's when it. When it hits the overseas mail system.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, something's very wrong.

[Adam Curry]

Stuff gets stolen.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I mean, we have not received Willows Christmas card, which she sends in November, before February, ever. So it takes three months. More than three months.

[Adam Curry]

Why is that?

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know that we have enough mail carriers and USPS professionals that we might be able to get some information from.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, maybe one of them will tell us, but there's definitely. There's something happens. Are we maybe looking at each individual piece or we don't have enough people?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, it's also possible that it's because of the privatization of the European Postal services that they just suck when it comes to international.

[Adam Curry]

It's been pretty. Yes, I think they do. Well, they've never. Our postal service has always been the best in the world, from what I can tell. I've never heard of. I mean, even in Canada, it's a problem up there. There's jokes. I mean, there's like, running gags about how long it takes for something to happen.

[John C. Dvorak]

Except for Newman. Okay, that fell flat. You don't remember Newman?

[Adam Curry]

Newman was the postal carrier in the Seinfeld Show.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, he was horrible.

[Adam Curry]

But he wasn't a Canadian.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, no. You said it was the best. Ours is the best in the world, I said, except for numa.

[Adam Curry]

Except for numa. Well, actually, there's also those nasty Federal Express commercials that, if you remember those, from about 20 years ago.

[John C. Dvorak]

No.

[Adam Curry]

Where they had the two people yakking. The two Postal Service people yakking. And then the mail kept flopping onto the floor. They were talking because they didn't care, and somebody says, are you anybody here? You know, that sort of thing. So they. It has been derided, but in fact, it's still pretty good.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I will say, you know, we got that big box from noagendachocolates.com from the Frankenmuth people.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

And it was there for a couple weeks at the post office. We just hadn't been. And we picked it up and we opened it, and the mice had definitely gotten into it.

[Adam Curry]

Mice?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

From the post office.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yep. Yep. Now, that did. Now it didn't matter to us. We were just like, well, this one still looks okay. We'll keep that one we're not throwing any of this stuff out that hasn't been nibbled at. It's still good to go.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, mice love chocolate.

[John C. Dvorak]

Chocolate. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, there's been a decloaking of sorts that happened, of course, on MSNBC of these town hall issues. The Republican town halls.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. With the fake protesters.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. So I'll play the setup.

[Adam Curry]

MSNBC pointed this out. I thought they'd stick with the program, which was all these Republicans hating on Trump all of a sudden.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, they are. Well, first I'll play the ABC report. This is kind. This is the messaging as we're supposed to receive it, that Republicans are outraged that Doge. A Republican congressman's town hall erupting into chaos. North Carolina Congressman Chuck Edwards getting an earful on everything from President Trump's tariffs to Elon Musk's downsizing of the government. The town hall can contentious from the start. A man identifying himself as a veteran was escorted out screaming profanities at the congressman over federal job cuts. That right there is the clue, of course, that these are not Republicans because they are screaming profanities. Right.

[Adam Curry]

Because right now that's what they do. That's a giveaway. Now it is.

[John C. Dvorak]

And remember, profanity is the sign of a weak mind trying to express itself. The crowd often booing when Musk or Trump was mentioned.

[Adam Curry]

Like him or not, Elon Musk has brought a lot of really smart people to Doge.

[John C. Dvorak]

And yeah, that's Republicans all right. 2,000 people showing up. Fewer than 400 were allowed in, some seen banging on the door. Republican leaders have encouraged members not to hold in person town halls because of frequent disruptions. They say Democrats are hiring outside agitators, which Democrats deny. Okay, so this is, this is what is so crazy about this decloaking, because the accusation is they're bringing in outside agitators who they're paying. And enter on MSNBC with steel, the former Republican Leah Greenberg from the Indivisible Project. And she is literally going to sit and say, well, no one's getting paid, but we're doing it. Democrats in and out of Congress are outraged at Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer after he he supported a key procedural vote that eventually led to the passage of Republican spending bill, a bill supported by Donald Trump. Now, the move has exposed fissures in the Democratic Party as it faces the crucial question of how to use its limited power to counter Trump and MAGA Republicans effort to remake the federal government. New polls show the public beginning to sour on Trump's policies. And some Democrats see Schumer's decision as a missed opportunity to win back voters and capitalize on the disappointment many Americans are already feeling. Well, we're going to get into it with the co founder and co executive director of the Indivisible Project, Leah Greenberg. So you're going to be astounded by these admissions here. We represent grassroots groups all over the country, thousands of them. They're in every community, small areas, big cities. They are. Some of them are center left, some of them are progressive. Where they are united is that they understand this is an emergency and they want to see people fight back using every tool they've got in the toolbox. And frankly, there's been a huge disconnect over the last few months. Democrats on Capitol Hill have been having one conversation about how do they break through on lower prices. And they have not been listening to all of their constituents who are expressing the kind of alarm, fear, anger, affection about what is happening and want to see them fighting back in the moment. And it's not that lower prices isn't a crucial part of the story that we tell. It's not that that's not an important part of how we're going to break through and win back more people. But it is really tone deaf to only focus on that in a moment when Donald Trump is taking a chainsaw to the federal government. Okay, so we have grassroots, thousands of them. Grassroots, but no one's getting paid. All the way up to the president say that these folks who are showing up to town halls and the Republicans district, they are activists or they are actually not constituents. They're paid. What do you say to them? That these are paid, not their actual constituents that are coming there? Well, this is just a transparently ridiculous claim. Right? These are people who are rooted in their communities. They are. We often will have a local indivisible group that's making sure lots of people know about a town hall, right? Because the people who come, they're people who just got their benefits cut. They're people whose, you know, they're, their.

[Adam Curry]

Son lost his job.

[John C. Dvorak]

There are people who are furious about what's going on because they are being directly impacted by all of these negative consequences. And they want to see their representative fighting back. And you know what I've seen with this claim? We had this in 2017 when we first got started, Republicans said, oh, all those people who are mad about the Affordable Care act, they're paid protesters. They stop that eventually. Because you know what really makes your constituents very, very mad is if you're calling them paid protesters while they are coming. Coming to you with their incredibly heartfelt concerns. And so it's a claim that's ridiculous, and it's a claim that always backfires because it makes you look like you're not listening to your real people. Well, the backfiring is the Indivisible project. At Indivisible.org, a joint website of Indivisible Project and Indivisible Action. Indivisible Project is a registered 501C4. That means they are a. You can't actually deduct your contribution to them because they're political. Indivisible Action is a hybrid political action committee, a PAC. And indeed, they, according to Guidestar in 2022, because they haven't filed their 23 or 24 paperwork, or at least it's not on Guidestar yet. They have $12 million they raised this year. And what do you know on the website, Charitable donations made through this form are received and processed by Act Blue. Act Blue, yes, indeed. I said a few weeks ago, y'all don't need your member to call a town hall. You just said you're organizing town halls in red districts, blue districts, purple districts, every district. You can talk about that organization. How do people feed into. How does that word get out to them? Particularly in those communities in some of the reddest parts of the country, like Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee, Texas, et cetera, they are literally explaining what they're doing. Okay, they're not paid, but this is an entire Democrat Party operation. If those members don't hold a town hall meeting.

[Adam Curry]

Absolutely.

[John C. Dvorak]

So what we tell our folks is, you know, your representative should hold a town hall. It is part of their job to interact with the public. Some of them are not doing it. They've decided that they would rather take the hit for being out of touch, for being out avoiding their district, than get out in public and get yelled at by their angry constituents. And so you don't actually have to wait for them. You cannot.

[Adam Curry]

Yelled at by organized group.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, completely organized. Completely coordinated district. Then get out in public and get yelled at by their angry constituents. And so you don't actually have to wait for them. You can hold that town hall. You schedule it. You invite them. If they come, that's great. But if they don't come, have an empty chair, have a live or. Well, we used to say have a live chicken on stage. We don't say that anymore because of avian flu, but if you've got a chicken suit Then, yeah, bring the chicken suit. Chicken suits incoming. And represent what they are actually doing in Washington. What we're seeing when we do this is that these are sold out. People want to come. People want to be involved in the process. Right now, people are incredibly eager to hear from their representatives. And if they cannot hear from their representatives, then they're incredibly eager to make their representatives hear from them. Okay, so it is Astroturf. That's what it is. I'm sure people are mad, but it's organized madness.

[Adam Curry]

And just to accentuate, well, the Democrats are mad. So you bring in a. You have a Republican who won the area. The Republicans aren't going to go to this thing. They already been fine. They like Trump, they're happy. They're going on and on about how the Republicans are turning on Trump. There's no evidence of this at all. No, but if you say, but if I'm an irked Democrat and I'm insane, I like to cuss a lot, I can just go into say, yeah, I'm a Republican, and F you, F you, F you. I don't like what you're doing, and I don't like Doge.

[John C. Dvorak]

Fu. Fu. And to accentuate the delusional Democrat profanity, here is Senator Mark Kelly.

[Adam Curry]

Hey, folks, Mark Kelly here in Washington.

[John C. Dvorak]

Driving to work for the last time in my Tesla. When I bought this thing, I didn't think it was going to become a political issue.

[Adam Curry]

Every time I get in this car in the last 60 days or so.

[John C. Dvorak]

It reminds me of just how much.

[Adam Curry]

Damage Elon Musk and Donald Trump is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Doing to our country.

[Adam Curry]

There are some things I really liked.

[John C. Dvorak]

About it, there are things I didn't.

[Adam Curry]

Like about it, but that doesn't matter.

[John C. Dvorak]

What matters is, you know, doing the right thing. I think it's time to get rid of it.

[Adam Curry]

You know, Elon Musk kind of turned.

[John C. Dvorak]

Out to be an asshole. And I don't want to be driving.

[Adam Curry]

A car built and designed by an asshole.

[John C. Dvorak]

There you go. Oh, so mature. Remember, this is democracy, and we must always remember the wise words of Ranish, also known as Osho, because democracy basically means.

[Adam Curry]

Government.

[John C. Dvorak]

By the people, of the people, for are the people, but the people are retarded. I love that guy. The people are retarded. That's true. That's true.

[Adam Curry]

This is why, since you talked about Schumer, let's go over the Schumer thing, because this became a big. A big. I mentioned the newsletter.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Schumer said, you know, we should vote for this thing because Otherwise you're gonna, it's gonna get worse or something. They have all these different reasons and, and then all the Democrats turned on Schumer. Pelosi said he should be, you know, hung by the, you know, yardarm. And did she say, did she say publicly?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I don't think so.

[Adam Curry]

She publicly condemned him. Okay, so we can play Schumer Passes Continuing Resolution Bill, which is the NPR clip. I think the Senate has passed a short term spending bill that avoids government shutdown and pays for government operations for six months. NPR's Elena Moore reports. Senate Republicans hold a majority in the chamber, but they needed Democratic votes to overcome a filibuster and get the measure to a final vote. For that procedural vote, a total of 10 Democrats sided with Republicans to advance the bill. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer was one of them and argued that allowing the GOP to pass their bill was a.

[John C. Dvorak]

Better move than shutting down the government. The CR bill is a bad bill, but as bad as the CR is, I believe that allowing Donald Trump to take even more power via a government shutdown is a far worse option.

[Adam Curry]

But that decision has caused rifts within the Democratic Party.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, the cr, I mean, this was a setup from the, from the get go. I mean, everybody knew this was going to pass. The Johnson sent the Republicans home right after they voted, and the Democrats didn't even vote until the next day. You don't send them home if you think it's not going to make it. This seemed, this, this was set up. I mean, I'm not sure why Schumer is doing it other than shutdowns suck or.

[Adam Curry]

What's that in your mouth?

[John C. Dvorak]

Hey, Chuck, what's that with you and Anthony Weiner? What's this picture about? Possibly. But he did get eight other Democrats to vote, didn't he?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, they were going to get a few anyway because, I mean, Fetterman was going to vote for it in a few. And then there's some people in swing areas that, that could be ousted by Republicans that were fearful.

[John C. Dvorak]

Fetterman is the most interesting guy to me.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, he is pretty funny. He doesn't care.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, but the thing in the beginning, people like his wife is moving his mouth. He can't even operate. And now he seems to have regained his functions. And you're right, he doesn't care. And he's kind of like a secret weapon over there for the Republicans.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, they don't know. The Democrats don't know what to do with it. They just ignore him. I mean, they're trying. I mean, Pelosi still got her influence, but they got all kinds of issues. But let's listen to the analysis of this Schumer promotion.

[John C. Dvorak]

Another spending cycle, another barely avoided government shutdown is very valuable. After the Senate just shocked. Oh, man. Senate just managed to pass a partisan stopgap spending bill. But that was only possible with help from a few Democratic lawmakers, which has.

[Adam Curry]

Riled up their congressional colleagues.

[John C. Dvorak]

NPR congressional correspondent Barbara Sprint joins us. Barbara, thanks for being with us. Hey, thanks for having me. This was an abrupt shift from the minority leader, Chuck Schumer. What happened? That's right. Schumer had said Republicans didn't get input from Democrats when drafting this bill and so they wouldn't get the Democratic votes they'd need to advance it. Instead, he wanted to pass a one month funding bill to give them more time to negotiate a deal. But on Thursday, he made a U turn and he said he was going to vote to advance the bill. Schumer and the nine other Democrats who ultimately voted alongside him argued the bill was bad. Yes, but a government shutdown would be worse.

[Adam Curry]

They said it would enable President Trump.

[John C. Dvorak]

And his top advisor, Elon Musk Musk.

[Adam Curry]

To further gut federal agencies. And their support enabled Republicans to ultimately.

[John C. Dvorak]

Pass the bill largely along party lines. Barbara, would it be fair to say that Senator Schumer's colleagues just didn't see this coming? It would be fair. I was at a conference in Virginia with House Democrats when Schumer made this announcement. I saw jaws drop. I saw heads shake. Wait a minute. Is she a journalist or was she, is she a party member? What is she doing over there?

[Adam Curry]

Well, she's a, I would think she's a journalist. But I'm glad you caught that because that what she's talking about, about that. She was at that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, the offside, the off site.

[Adam Curry]

They had a big closed off site where the Democrats are trying to strategize how they, what they're going to do.

[John C. Dvorak]

And see this coming.

[Adam Curry]

So what's she doing there?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, she's helping them strategize. Hey, we're here. NPR is all for you. Go, go, go. It would be fair. I was at a conference in Virginia with House Democrats when Schumer made this announcement. I saw jaws drop. I saw heads shake. Members were really upset. They said they felt betrayed because they.

[Adam Curry]

Had voted on the same bill earlier.

[John C. Dvorak]

This week and all voted against it. It was a tough vote for a.

[Adam Curry]

Lot of members, particularly those in vulnerable districts.

[John C. Dvorak]

But the caucus banded together to present a united front and Make a strong show of opposition. They said that the bill was essentially a blank check for Trump because it doesn't rein in the administration's efforts to cut spending that was previously approved by Congress. Yeah, but isn't this the blank check that Biden and Johnson put together? I mean, it's just a continuation of what already was, not. No, yeah, yeah. So it was.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, they were happy with it. Dough for Defense Department.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, a little extra.

[Adam Curry]

Little extra dough.

[John C. Dvorak]

700 billion extra. Just a little. Just a little extra.

[Adam Curry]

Wasn't that much extra, but I thought.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I thought. It wasn't.

[Adam Curry]

No, the whole. The whole thing is about 800 max. Total.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, total. Okay. All right. So some extra dough. All right.

[Adam Curry]

They're trying to keep it under a trillion, even though the Chinese can do the same amount of work for a 200 billion. That's interesting that the Chinese are more efficient than we are. I wonder why that is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Doge has not yet gone into the Defense Department.

[Adam Curry]

Once they do, it'll be interesting.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, we'll see. We'll see, we'll see. I don't know about that.

[Adam Curry]

Here's the last of. I think.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, you have two. You have two more. This is your second one. Here's New York Congressman Joe Morelli reacting to Schumer's comments.

[Adam Curry]

I think they're gonna rue the day they make this decision. I think this just gives, you know, license to.

[John C. Dvorak]

Republicans continue to dismantle the government.

[Adam Curry]

They now have the acquiescence of Senate Democrats.

[John C. Dvorak]

Members told me they were calling and texting their senators, imploring them not to vote alongside Schumer. So a lot of frustration and anger among House Democrats. Barbara, what's the implication of this rift, Barbara, among Democrats at a time when, after all, Republicans control the House, the Senate, and the White House? You really have to label these clips when the sky's coming on, because I need to know ahead of time I want to do a new knowledge.

[Adam Curry]

You know what, by the way, they don't even. They discuss it a little bit, or it's kind of an undertone. But the subtext, I think, of the, the, of the anger on the House side is that, hey, this thing, Pat, we could have voted. If you're going to just pass it. We could. You know, we're in a couple of districts over here that we can get kicked out by some upcoming Republicans. It would make us look a little better if we voted yes on this after you guys screwed us.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, interesting point.

[Adam Curry]

And that's if you listen to the subtext that's all they're complaining about is that, oh, we didn't know. We didn't know us. I would have voted yes if I known you were going to do that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Who are the people who voted yes?

[Adam Curry]

One guy in the House voted yes. That's a Democrat. And he's now. He's looking good.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Yes. We're back to Scott. House Democrats felt that they finally had some momentum, you know, as the opposition party. The vote over the shutdown was a rare and big piece of leverage for them to have unity in the House and then have the Senate Democrats shift course at this late stage is a breakdown in strategy. And New York Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio Cortez said that it has implications, in her view, far beyond this one vote. There will be a day where the.

[Adam Curry]

Senate will need the House to move on something.

[John C. Dvorak]

And if there is an erosion of.

[Adam Curry]

Trust and a breach of trust, such as what is being considered right now, it will make cooperation difficult, difficult.

[John C. Dvorak]

After the vote, she posted that the Democratic votes in the Senate were a, quote, fear based, inexplicable abdication and that the Senate owns what happens next. You know, I talked to Democratic strategists.

[Adam Curry]

About this yesterday, and they said that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Senate leadership really misread what constituents want for Democrats to hold the line, even if it means a shutdown.

[Adam Curry]

There's concern that this emboldens the gop.

[John C. Dvorak]

Makes it harder for Democrats to present a unified message.

[Adam Curry]

Now Congress is on recess next week.

[John C. Dvorak]

I expect Democrats will be getting an earful from constituents. Okay, so Schumer voted for it. Fetterman voted for it. Cortez Mastro of Nevada. Nevada. Nevada. Nevada. Nevada voted for it. Brian Schatz of Hawaii, Dick Durbin of Illinois, Kirsten Gillibrand of New York, Gary Peters of Michigan, Maggie Hassan of New Hampshire, Jean Shaheen of New Hampshire, and Angus King of Maine, who was independent, but he's kind of on the Democrat side. This was also, in an interesting way, a moment for AOC to shine. I don't know if you noticed that, but she was everywhere. And it would be fun to watch. But there's a lot of noise now. Oh, AOC, she's going to run for president in 2028. Yes. And you know what? I have to tell you, she's got a shot.

[Adam Curry]

You predicted this when she first showed up on the scene. You made this idiotic. And I'll say it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, you can say it all you want. You said the same when I said. I also said Trump would win.

[Adam Curry]

Bonehead Ditz is going to run for president.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yep. Yeah, she's going to run. Yes. I said she could do it, just like I said Trump could do it in 2015. And let's always remember I predicted the pope. So, you know, pope.

[Adam Curry]

If you predict the next pope, then I'll defer a little bit more.

[John C. Dvorak]

A little bit more. A little bit more. If I. Well, first of all, this pope isn't dead yet. So a little respect according to what we know. Well, this is true. We don't really know. We're not sure he's alive here. Here's your final anal clip. Donald Trump owns the chaos in government. He owns the chaos in the stock market. He owns the damage happening to the economy. But Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer may end up owning some political pain from the shutdown that wasn't. NPR senior contributor Ron Elving joins us. Ron, thanks so much for being with us. Good to be with you, Scott. What is in the spending agreement to keep the government funded and money? Why might it come back to haunt the minority leader?

[Adam Curry]

Politically?

[John C. Dvorak]

It's already haunting him. First off, this is not the main event for this year in spending and policy. It's not the package Trump calls his one big beautiful bill. That showdown is coming later. Last night was a vote on what's.

[Adam Curry]

Called a continuing resolution.

[John C. Dvorak]

We sometimes call it a stopgap spending bill. It's a hangover from last year's failed budget process and it keeps the government running even though the regular spending bills were not enacted last year. We've been running on these stopgaps since last October. They extend the budgeting resolutions of last year with relatively small changes for defense and domestic spending. So the real fight this week was.

[Adam Curry]

Over what this resolution did not do.

[John C. Dvorak]

It was written by Republicans in the House and Senate. It did not put up a stop sign or guardrails for Trump and Elon Musk. So the current assault on federal agencies and their employees will continue with the.

[Adam Curry]

Only pushback really coming from the courts.

[John C. Dvorak]

And a lot of Democrats, certainly the House Democrats thought the Senate Democrats ought to vote no and confront Trump here even if it meant a shutdown. Here's House Democratic leader, by the way, this guy's his fake teeth are clacking. You notice that?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Listen. Listen carefully. You'll hear it. It's like clicking and clacking coming from the courts. And a lot of Democrats, House Democrats thought the Senate Democrats ought to vote no and confront Trump here, even if it meant a shutdown.

[Adam Curry]

Here's House Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries yesterday.

[John C. Dvorak]

Being asked about Schumer's future. Is it time for new leadership in the Senate? Next question. Yeah, no.

[Adam Curry]

Next question.

[John C. Dvorak]

Like no comment. Look, Schumer and nine other Democrats decided voting for a resolution they hated was the lesser of two evils. They know Trump will see it as a green light, but they believe a shutdown right now would be worse, like waving a red cape in front of a bull. You know what I'm missing in this report? Do they ever talk to Republicans ever at npr?

[Adam Curry]

No. Why bother?

[John C. Dvorak]

There's not even, not even the.

[Adam Curry]

They bring Mike Johnson in once in a while to put you to sleep. The somnambulistic style.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sonambulistic. That's a good one. What does that mean? Sombulistic. Sleepy, sleepy, sleepy. All right.

[Adam Curry]

Or putting you. He puts you to sleep. He's a soft spoken guy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. I'm going to set you up for your Khalil clips.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yes, good old Khalil Muhammad.

[John C. Dvorak]

And I'll set you up with Secretary of State Rubio. Got a couple clips from him this morning saying everything but what it's really about. I want to ask you about a decision you made to revoke a student visa for someone at Columbia University this past week. The Wall Street Journal editorial board writes the administration needs to be careful. It's targeting real promoters of terrorism, not breaking the great promise of a green card by deporting anyone with controversial political view views. Can you substantiate any form of material support for terrorism, specifically to Hamas, from this Columbia student? Or was it simply that he was espousing a controversial political point of view? Well, not just the student. We're going to do more, in fact, every day now. We're approving visa revocations. And if that visa led to a green card, the green card process as well. And here's why. It's very simple. When you apply, that's a new version of Epiphora. Instead of saying why, he says, and here's why. It's kind of a new take on doing it.

[Adam Curry]

Probably a better way of doing it.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, it's much better. Green card. The green card process as well.

[Adam Curry]

The reason I say that is because Horowitz does this, is that you're talking long and then you. And then you pause and then you go why? As opposed to. So it's lack. It lacks smoothness. This is smoother, which is Rubio is smooth character.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, yes. Visa led to a green card. The green card process as well. And here's why. It's very simple. When you apply to enter the United States, and you get a visa. You are a guest, and you're coming as a student, you're coming as a tourist or what have you. And in it, you have to make certain assertions. And if you tell us when you apply for a visa, I'm coming to the U.S. u.S. To participate in pro Hamas events that runs counter to the foreign policy interest of the United States of America. It's that simple. So you lied. You came. If you had told us that you were going to do that, we never would have given you the visa. Now you're here. Now you do it. You lied to us. You're out. You lied. You lied. Okay. Okay. Well, they're not giving up. Easy there, Face the nation. But is there any evidence of a link to terrorism? Or is it just his point of view? Hey, we all know that in America, even soccer moms can be terrorists. Okay? I mean, come on. Cbs. Yeah. They take over. I mean, do not. I mean, you should watch the news. These guys take over entire buildings. We vandalize cop. We covered it. We do. We. We are the news. They shut down. I'm asking about this justification for the revocation of his visa. Was there any evidence that was in a good negotiator on negotiating on behalf of people that took over a campus that vandalize buildings? Negotiating over what? That's a crime in and of itself that they're involved in being a negotiator. The spokesperson. This, that, the other. We don't want. We don't need these people in our country. That we never should have. This is. This is one of my pet peeves. I'm hearing this a lot more. This, that, and the other. It's. Maybe it's just me.

[Adam Curry]

Well, no, I have the same pet peeve with Mark Levin.

[John C. Dvorak]

Does he say this?

[Adam Curry]

Always saying and so forth and so on and so forth and so forth. And you just. He says and so on and so forth. And he says and so on and so forth. All the time. I was. I've been wanting to put a super clip together of it, a super cut of it. I'm just going. And so forth. It's just. It's just annoying. Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

This, that, and the other. Well, Rubio is now making a point that negotiate. Taking over a building and being the negotiator is a crime. That is a. That is a terroristic crime. Crime that vandalized buildings. Negotiating over what. That's a crime in and of itself that they're involved in being the negotiator. The spokesperson. This, that. The Other we don't want. We don't need these people in our country. That we never should have this, that the other have allowed them in in the first place.

[Adam Curry]

Pointed out, by the way. Now I'm going to be hearing it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yep. Yeah, you're going to hear it everywhere. It's everywhere. If he had told us, I'm going over there and I'm going over there to become the spokesperson and one of the leaders of a movement that's going to turn. Well, no, of course he's not going to tell you that, Marco. One of your allegedly elite colleges, upside down. People can't even go to school. Library buildings being vandalized. We never would have let him in. We never would have let him in to begin with. And now that he's doing it and he's here, he's going to leave and so are others. And we're going to keep doing it. We are. And by the way, I find it ironic that a lot of these people out there defending the First Amendment speech, alleged free speech rights of these Hamas sympathizers. They had no problem, okay. Pressuring social media to censor American political speech. So I think it's ironic and hypocritical, but is there any oops. So before we continue with this, and it sounds like the Secretary of State is saying, well, he lied on his application. It's like, are you going to be disruptive in America? No, of course not. So he lied on his application and the taking over of a building is in of itself a crime. So a lot of people all across the political spectrum, spectrum are very upset by this. They feel that you have a right to the freedom of speech, or as some say, free speech. And I shall read an email that we receive, which I think kind of kicked off your.

[Adam Curry]

Before you do that, before you read the email, I want to point out something because it will go into my analysis coming up.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

Is that when Rubio is full of it and he's promoting something, he's promoting the narrative that's in play, which is what we're hearing. Hearing. He talks fast.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, that's a good tell.

[Adam Curry]

That's his tell.

[John C. Dvorak]

He speeds up.

[Adam Curry]

Rubio starts going like a maniac. He just goes crazy.

[John C. Dvorak]

You're right. And there is a difference between a visa and a green card. A green card is a version of a visa, but you would think it was. It's rather extreme to take someone out for this, especially a student. Of course, as we're about to learn, the student is 31, been married, has A kid coming up, so it's Valid. Student at 31. You can be a student. If any of our daughters were students at 31, I'd tell them to get their act together. So here's the email we received, which I think started off some searching on our part. Subject. Useful idiot for Israel.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, this one. Yeah, this is a good one. If you're gonna bring this into the show, it's too good.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's too good. You are a pawn to perhaps the greatest human atrocity of our lifetime. You defend Israel as they bomb hospitals and aid stations.

[Adam Curry]

And by the way, before you continue, I have looked at. This guy's not a donor to the show. He's a drive by.

[John C. Dvorak]

His name is Blockman B. I mean, come on.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, he's a drive by.

[John C. Dvorak]

He's a drive by. But I guess I don't think we've ever defended bombing hospitals and aid stations.

[Adam Curry]

No, not that I can recall.

[John C. Dvorak]

What he's saying is you don't call it out as genocide. That's really what he's saying. But instead of saying that, he says you defend. And you defend the censoring and deportation of permanent residents for thought crimes and speech issues. Okay, I don't think we defended it, but. All right, right. You claim no agenda, but your agenda is Zionism. They are coming after a permanent resident today for thought crimes and supporting terrorism in quotes. Tomorrow they'll be droning citizens for supporting terrorism just like Obama did. I try to listen to the show because I don't want to be the person that can't see beyond an issue or two, which tells me that somehow this show is, for some reason important enough for some outfit like, I don't know, Act Blue to send people along and email these boomers. They've got influence. I. I don't want. It's like, why are you wasting your time? I don't want to be the person that can't see beyond an issue or two. But to hear you and Johnson so cavalierly dismiss Mahmoud Khalil shows me that you two really don't support the freedom in America that I believe in. Sincerely, Blockman Bing. So, and. And we shared this. I shared this email with John and. And then for some reason, John started to dig in, and I think you came up with some interesting, interesting ideas. Much work didn't take.

[Adam Curry]

But let's play two clips first. I got two clips. I got genocide in Muhammad. Muhammad or Mumad.

[John C. Dvorak]

Mumad.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, Mumad, Part one and two. And these are a good preliminary clips that just build onto the problem we have.

[John C. Dvorak]

The Israeli government denies that its campaign against Hamas in Gaza amounts to genocide. South Africa is arguing in the International Court of Justice that it does. The case is yet to be decided. It's an accusation that rang across the campus of Columbia University last year. We should give this guy just the executive producer credit. I mean, he is on the show constantly. Is yet to be decided. It's an accusation that rang across the campus of Columbia University last year. Mahmoud Khalil was a prominent part of those protests as a student there. And for his role in those protests, Khalil has been taken into custody by immigration agents and is now facing deportation. His wife, Nur Abdallah, who is pregnant, gave her first broadcast interview to our colleague, Morning Edition co host Layla Fadel. Thanks for having me. Scott, tell us about the scene.

[Adam Curry]

Nora Abdallah was with her husband when.

[John C. Dvorak]

He was detained last weekend.

[Adam Curry]

That's right, she was.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, man. Do you know what this reminds me of?

[Adam Curry]

Pillow talk.

[John C. Dvorak]

No. Well, close. Let's see. What was the guy's name again? Oh, man. Hold on a second. I gotta find it. Charlie Rose. That's what it is. Listen.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, Charlie Rose.

[John C. Dvorak]

Having me, Scott, tell us about the scene.

[Adam Curry]

Noor Abdallah was with her husband when.

[John C. Dvorak]

He was detained last weekend.

[Adam Curry]

Tell me about the sexuality. It's in your DNA.

[John C. Dvorak]

Same guy. Same guy. Same beautiful, same guy. Having me, Scott, tell us about the scene.

[Adam Curry]

Noor Abdallah was with her husband when.

[John C. Dvorak]

He was detained last weekend.

[Adam Curry]

That's right, she was.

[John C. Dvorak]

And she said they were coming home from dinner, and as they unlock the door of their apartment building, a man held it open behind them and asked her husband, are you Mahmoud Khalil?

[Adam Curry]

And I'll just play you a bit of what she says happened next. We were both like, what is happening?

[John C. Dvorak]

You know? And he says, I'm with the police. You have to come with us. I think at that point, like, honestly, like, my heart sank.

[Adam Curry]

Like, I. I want to say Mahmoud tried to prepare me, like, two days before.

[John C. Dvorak]

He told me, like, do you know.

[Adam Curry]

Your rights if ICE comes to your door? And I, like, brush it off.

[John C. Dvorak]

I was like, what are you saying?

[Adam Curry]

Like, that's not gonna happen, you know?

[John C. Dvorak]

But he was like, no, like, you need to know.

[Adam Curry]

And so at this point, your heart is sinking and. And what is happening in front of you? So Mahmoud's trying to ask the officer, well, first he asked him, like, who are you with?

[John C. Dvorak]

He said, department of Homeland Security. And then he asked him, can I see a warrant? The officer said, he has one he's like, it's on my phone, but never really showed it to us. And then Mahmoud was holding the keys that he had just used to open our apartment. And the officer was like, give the keys to your wife, basically. And I. I turned to the officer, I was like, I'm not leaving him. And the officer goes, I'll arrest you, too. Not one to speculate about personal finances, but for a student at Columbia, he's got an apartment. I presume his wife is not working at this moment, as she's about to give birth.

[Adam Curry]

She's a dentist.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, she is. Oh, well, then that explains the apartment.

[Adam Curry]

And of course, he mentions that he told her about this two days before it happened.

[John C. Dvorak]

Interesting.

[Adam Curry]

How did that. How did he know that? Well, let's play part two, and then I'll tell you what I think.

[John C. Dvorak]

But she's a US Citizen, right? Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

I mean, that's part of the reason she didn't take Mahmoud's warnings that he might be deported seriously.

[John C. Dvorak]

She was born here.

[Adam Curry]

He's a lawful permanent resident. He has a green card.

[John C. Dvorak]

This, by the way, is quite the meme. Lawful, permanent, residential, lawful. This is very important, that they keep saying this seriously. She was born here.

[Adam Curry]

He's a lawful permanent resident. He has a green card. And she says, as most Americans do.

[John C. Dvorak]

She believed they had the right to.

[Adam Curry]

Say whatever they wanted. And he was using that right to speak up about the treatment of his own people. He's Palestinian. And now Noor is in this position she never could have imagined facing the possibility that she's going to have this baby while her husband is detained in Louisiana or possibly deported.

[John C. Dvorak]

The government is accusing him of supporting Hamas, which could amount to a violation of US law. What does she say about those accusations?

[Adam Curry]

Well, she says they've provided no evidence of that accusation. No evidence, because there isn't evidence. He's also never been charged with an actual crime.

[John C. Dvorak]

That would be a crime if he.

[Adam Curry]

Provided support to Hamas. Here's more of what Noor said.

[John C. Dvorak]

I just want to be clear that the smears against Mahmoud are exactly that.

[Adam Curry]

That there's mirrors.

[John C. Dvorak]

He has and always will stand up for what's right. And the way that he was taken from his family was. Was not right.

[Adam Curry]

The government's actually arguing they can take his green card under a rarely used immigration provision, not because of a crime.

[John C. Dvorak]

I also asked her if her husband.

[Adam Curry]

Were allowed to return home tomorrow, let's say, would she feel safe in the US after what's happened? And here's what she said.

[John C. Dvorak]

I love this apartment, and I love the place that we live, but I. I think.

[Adam Curry]

I think, unfortunately, they kind of.

[John C. Dvorak]

They took away that sense of security and that sense of safety, at least for me.

[Adam Curry]

And I wasn't sure if she'd lost her sense of safety in the apartment or the country. So I asked, and she said both.

[John C. Dvorak]

And, Pierre Delafote, thanks so much for being with us.

[Adam Curry]

Thanks for having me, Scott.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, thank you. Thanks. In your DNA. Thank you so much.

[Adam Curry]

Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

The law is on the books, by the way. The. Yeah, you know, it's a.

[Adam Curry]

It's a good bit. It's a good bit. This is a scam here.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hold on, let me just read the law. Law Removal procedures under Section 237A, 4Ci of the Immigration Nationality act, which permits deportation of lawful residents if the Secretary of State believes that their presence risks a potentially serious adverse foreign policy consequence. It's a real law. You may not like it, but it's a real law. Okay.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. This has been known for a long time. This guy's a spook. And this is either an extraction of Khalil, which I think it is. I think it's an extraction, but it could be other things. The fact of the matter is, let's look at this guy's background, and this is easy to discover. And I can kind of. Yes, because I pointed it out to you. I would kind of condemn the intelligence agencies for allowing this to be so easily discovered. I did it on two searches, and I got very deep, deep. It didn't take anything. It's all public. Public int. As they like to call it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Human. Humans. Osint.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Open source. That's right. That's what it really is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Osint.

[Adam Curry]

Osint.

[John C. Dvorak]

Osint. Yes.

[Adam Curry]

The guy was born, okay, The. Khalil was born. He. He's. He keeps being. I thought he was Assyrian, but it turns out he's an Algerian. He was born in a refugee camp in Damascus, Syria, from two Palestinians, they say, oh, he's a Palestinian. He really never lived there. They fled to Lebanon. So he was in Lebanon? He was. After the civil war began. And then it went on. Then there was a report on him from this journalist, Lauren Bone. B O H N. You should look at her. L A U R E N B O H. And she's got something to do with the Atlantic Council. She's a journalist. And you take one look at her and you go, oh, okay. There's a honeypot if I've ever seen one. She met Khalil. This is right on the Wiki page. I know met Khalil in Beirut while reporting on the refugee crisis and he referred to himself as a double refugee, blah, blah, blah. Goes on to report, she reported that he taught himself English. He's fluent, by the way. And it turns out if you look into it, he's a polyglot. He can speak a lot of languages. He supposedly through the American educational nonprofit Junsor, which I've been looking into, but I haven't gotten too far and I don't care. Simultaneously earned a bachelor's degree in computer science. He then worked for the British government Foreign Commonwealth and Development Office, managing a scholarship program that's very similar to Rhodes Scholarship from the British Embassy in Beirut and supporting diplomats with his language skills and local knowledge. He immigrated to the US on a student visa to attend sipa.

[John C. Dvorak]

Ah, stop.

[Adam Curry]

That's the school.

[John C. Dvorak]

Stop, stop, stop, stop. At sipa, do you know who is the Shelby Column Davis professor in Practice of the International Diplomacy Directorate of the International Fellowship Program for sip? Sipa who? Look, it is really very, very important that in this period. This is Victoria Nuland.

[Adam Curry]

That's who it is.

[John C. Dvorak]

She's at sipa. She's a professor at sipa. I looked at the website. The whole thing says spook.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. In fact, I ran a. Through one of the AI systems. I ran a search on this. SIPA at Columbia University have any connections to the intelligence agencies? One the curriculum and faculty. SIPA offers courses related to intelligence, such as intelligence and war, taught by faculty with backgrounds in intelligence. A former Deputy Assistant Director of the CIA for Europe in Eurasia. Guest speakers and events. SIPA frequently hosts events featuring prominent figures from the intelligence community such as John Brennan, former Director of National Clapper. Career paths. Many SIPA graduates pursue a career in US and foreign government agencies, including intelligence roles, recruitment. Anyway, it goes on and on and on. And it turns out that it's so obvious that what was going on because a guy gets a degree in computer science doesn't all of a sudden be attending SIPA at the age of 30, allowed to get his degree before he's all of a sudden kicked out of the country. Now either he was. Now whether he works, what agency he works for, we don't know. He could be intelligent.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think MI6 is what I'm thinking.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I would think MI6 sounds the most. Sounds the most reasonable.

[John C. Dvorak]

Victoria Nuland, you know, she's a five eyes girl. So she's there. Not on the behest of the CIA anymore, I'm just presuming. But she pops up everywhere. You know she's ambassador to the National Endowment for Democracy. She's in usaid, she's in a Council on Foreign Relations. And then she shows up up at sipa. Come on now she's got to. This has got to be a five eyes type counter intel op from MI6.

[Adam Curry]

So they had to get this guy. No. So this guy, it looks like you pull him out, make a big fuss like they're doing. And by the way, again, I condemn the intelligence people for not being able to cover this up better than I could in two searches. Yeah, you can find all this out, I mean and you can just imagine what the Chinese can do. And I will mention something that happened at the dinner table last Friday. JC who is in AI said that the Chinese AI stuff, it's not what you think. It's a lot better. It's better than to see looked at the algos and he looked at the neural networks they're creating. They're superior to what we have. So if I can find out about SIPA and this character with a couple of simple searches, the Chinese already know and he says that the Chinese are ahead of us by a number of years. He says luckily for us, for the Americans, the Chinese government has all of a sudden taken note of this and they've screwed up with the Chinese gov. They've decided this is so important that they're not going to allow their scientists, their AI scientists access to it. No, they've got access to it in China. They won't allow them to go to the international conferences. And there's a big confab coming up in the next few months where all the world's guys, all these guys come together because they got nothing but money except the Chinese. They're not going to show up. And so they're going to lose out because the way you've been to these things. Yes, this group think that's everyone gets together and they all exchange information. They all think the same afterwards and they're all ahead of the game. It really works well. So this guy is working for someone MI6 probably. I would agree. And this is an extraction and makes him look good. He can be reassigned to something else and he looks legit.

[John C. Dvorak]

And I have one other report here which shows that this is, this is not about.

[Adam Curry]

And by the way to the guy who wrote us the note about the Bing guy or whatever his name is, Blockman Bing. This is the kind of stupid stooge that is out there in the public that believes everything they're told without thinking twice. About it. And it took me no time to figure this out.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I mean, you just sent me the wiki page and I didn't get paid past the first paragraph and went, oh, sipa. And then pure providence, I get that video from Victoria Nuland speaking at SIPA about, you know, weapons for Ukraine, this and that. And so then here's this, here's a short, here's a clip from abc and I think they're cleaning house. They're cleaning house of all of the spooks. There's a couple more, some just fleeing the country. And it's not just Colombia.

[Adam Curry]

We've ended the tyranny of so called.

[John C. Dvorak]

Divers diversity, equity and inclusion policies. The United States President Donald Trump is targeting DEI diversity, equity and inclusion programs. U.S. education Secretary Lindsay McMahan on Friday. I'm sorry, that's the wrong one. This is the one I meant to play.

[Adam Curry]

This is cell phone video of the Saturday arrest of Mahmoud Khalil. It was all his 8 month pregnant.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wife could do when ICE agents showed.

[Adam Curry]

Up at their front door.

[John C. Dvorak]

Mahmoud is not here on a student visa. He was previously, but he had become a lawful permanent resident. When I mentioned this to the ICE agent, he said that. That the Secretary of State was revoking that too.

[Adam Curry]

Now a second student has been arrested, Lika Cordia. She and Khalil accused of supporting the terrorist activities of Hamas.

[John C. Dvorak]

So Lika Cordia, who first entered the US in 2016 on tourism visa, obtained a student visa the next year. In 2021, it was terminated because she never showed up at school.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, that's funny. That reminds me of the, the agency show where the woman is, the African woman is, never shows up at school. I want to mention.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let me Finish this. There's 49 seconds left. There's more.

[Adam Curry]

Supporting the terrorist activities of Hamas for taking part in the Hamilton hall takeover last April. The Ivy League institution announcing today that 22 students have now been sanctions for the events of last year, ranging from multi year suspensions, temporary degree revocations and expulsions. The disciplinary action that has been taken against these students is coming far, far too late. A third student, Ranjani Srinivasan, is seen rushing to catch a flight at LaGuardia.

[John C. Dvorak]

Airport back home to India.

[Adam Curry]

Her visa revoked a week ago by dhs.

[John C. Dvorak]

We have to draw the line here.

[Adam Curry]

At Columbia to say they cannot get away with this. And we have to mobilize people from within the university, from within the community. And protests continue outside the gates of Columbia University, not backing down despite the latest escalation by the Trump administration.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't need to play it, but I think they're using DEI to root all this out and to get them to cut funding to these universities. Johns Hopkins, more than 2,000 people fired. So the federal government has been paying these universities and that's what's been supporting a lot of this nonsense.

[Adam Curry]

I think that the whole Hamas protest movement may be a government op.

[John C. Dvorak]

Could very well likely be.

[Adam Curry]

And this, let me mention this guy's wife, the dentist, Khalil's wife. I want to just read this. And this doesn't sound like something dubious. I don't know what does. The couple had met in 2016. This is the dentist woman when Abdallah was her name name. Joined a volunteer program. She's an American. She's an American. Joined a volunteer program that Khalil was overseeing in Lebanon.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah, that's what students do.

[Adam Curry]

That's what students do. They're expecting their first child in late April 2025. So they're having kid, but okay, so they had a long distance relationship while he's in Lebanon. She's over here. This is just bull crap. A spot the spook. Spot the spook.

[John C. Dvorak]

Everybody wants to spot the spook. Yeah, yeah, yeah, baby. So along these lines. Oops. Along these lines, something else happened which is kind of almost like the, the other, the other shoe dropping. President Trump went to the Department of Justice. Oh, is no president ever speaks there that you're supposed to show independence. It's not good. What's he doing? Doing? They found about out about Operation Arctic Freeze. I don't have any clips of it, but Operation Arctic Freeze is where during the Biden administration, they seized the cell phones of at that point, former President Trump and a couple other people. And the FBI was just rooting through it, just looking at whatever they wanted to so they could, you know, that's how the whole. Jack, what's the guy's name? Name?

[Adam Curry]

Smith.

[John C. Dvorak]

Jack. I want to say Jack White. Jack Smith. You know, that's where that all came from, from stuff on the cell phone. But the president wrote up in another executive order and this is a bit of a prelude to it here. This is the Voice of America's continued now as part of instructions for certain federal agencies to reduce their operations to the bare minimum, has taken on publicly funded broadcasters, signing an executive order aimed at the US Agency for Global Media, which houses Voice of America and other radio stations. On Saturday, former news anchor Carrie Lake, Trump's senior adviser to the agency, posted on X that employees should Check their email. That coincided with notices going out placing Voice of America staff on paid administrative leave. Reporters Without Borders says that the Trump administration's decision is the latest abandonment of the U.S. s historic role in championing press freedom. If America steps away from the free press and abandons all the outlets that.

[Adam Curry]

We'Re broadcasting abroad, we will see the increase, which we're already seeing on social media, of propaganda. And America's geopolitical enemies are just waiting for that. This is the biggest present Donald Trump could ever give to Vladimir Putin.

[John C. Dvorak]

America broadcaster that operates in more than 40 languages. The agency for Global Media also funds Radio Free Europe, Radio Liberty and Radio Free Asia. The reductions are especially provocative because the agency is independent, chartered by Congress, which passed a law in 2020 limiting the power of the agency's presidentially appointed executives. So I was already wondering, why do they make Carrie Lake head of the United States government media organization?

[Adam Curry]

I have two Voice of America clips, too.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hold on, let me just read. I just want to read something. The reason. So you recall the Smith Mundt act, which meant, hey, the government can't propagandize our own people in the United States. Oh, gee, isn't it great that we have Voices of America to propagandize other countries? It was overturned in 2012 under President Obama, and that was shoved into the National Defense Authorization Act. Just a reminder what the change was about, and just one paragraph. The act was developed to regulate broadcasting of programs for foreign audiences produced under the guidance of the State Department, and it prohibited domestic dissemination of materials produced by such programs as one of its provisions. The original version of the act was amended by the Smith Mundt Modernization act of 2012, which allowed for materials produced by the State Department. At the time, Hillary Clinton and the Broadcasting Board of Governors, which is Voice of America, Voice of Europe, and at one point was run by Tucker Carlson's dad to be made available within the United States. This was propaganda that was being bestowed upon people in America by a rather large media organization filled with nut jobs. Or as the White House wrote, the Voice of Radical America. President Trump's executive order on Friday will ensure that tax taxpayers no longer on the hook for radical propaganda. So, yes, this is a very good thing. Get rid of it. And I think that's why President Trump keeps saying, you know, msnbc, what they're doing is illegal, although they're not part of the Unless they're being paid by.

[Adam Curry]

The government, you never know. Aid money.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, the. This executive order defunded and does away with. See if you catch anything The Federal Mediation and Conciliation Service. The United States Agency for Global Media. That's the. That's the Voice of America. The Woodrow Wilson International center for Scholars in the Smithsonian Institute. Isn't that that former Republican lady who runs that? The Woodrow Wilson Institute?

[Adam Curry]

I don't know anything about that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah, she's. I forget her name.

[Adam Curry]

Name.

[John C. Dvorak]

I can tell you her name. Woodrow Wilson. No, I can't. I guess Wilson. Anyway, it doesn't matter. I can't remember her name. The Institute of Museum and Library Services. The United States Interagency Council on Homelessness. There's a good one. The Community Development Financial Institutions Fund and the Minority Business Development Agency. So these were all defunded and probably with good reason.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, they didn't do anything except pass money around to their pals. So I have two clips. I have the BBC clip, which is unfortunately says V instead of voa. And I think probably the shortest clip when they just throw it out there as the NPR clip. Let's play that first. Then the BBC employees of the Voice of America showed up at work today to learn they've been locked out. President Trump last night ordered its parent agency, the U.S. agency for Global Media, to eliminate all activities not required by law.

[John C. Dvorak]

More than a thousand full time workers.

[Adam Curry]

At the Voice of America and radio and television Marti were affected. What thousand? Thousand, thousand people work at Voice doing what? A thousand people?

[John C. Dvorak]

That's a lot of podcasts, man. Baby.

[Adam Curry]

So I, I did a Voice of America broadcast once.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, really?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, some years back when I had my telecommunications book and I was doing a media tour.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now they think about it. I think I was. When podcasting was. Was popping. I think I was interviewed by Voice of America.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I was actually in their studios.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, no, no, it was a phoner for me, baby. Just a phone.

[Adam Curry]

In fact, the studios was so cool because they were just. Every time I go to some public radio thing, they're throwing stuff out. And so they were throwing Voice of.

[John C. Dvorak]

America broadcasting propaganda around the world.

[Adam Curry]

So they were throwing out these IBM clocks. Oh, I got, I grabbed one. I have it still.

[John C. Dvorak]

The synchronized clocks.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, those are beautiful.

[Adam Curry]

The synchro clocks.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, those are beautiful.

[Adam Curry]

And it's a big clock and it says IBM on it because IBM used to make them and they don't anymore, obviously. It's like the IBM, the butcher scales used to make those too. And the clock goes click, click, click. And you have to get a little adapter for it because it works on 50 cycles or something. It's very Screwy. And they're all synced throughout the building and they had a big pile of these clocks. I said, what are these? They said, oh, those are the synchronized. We don't use them anymore. We've gone digital. And they have these digital clocks now. And so I said, what are you going to do with them? You're going to get thrown out. I said, can I have one?

[John C. Dvorak]

But you didn't get, you didn't get the synchronizer though, did, did you?

[Adam Curry]

No, I didn't know. But I got the plans for it.

[John C. Dvorak]

And 30 years later, we still have to heat up the soldering iron, but it's coming.

[Adam Curry]

But you have the clock and it's like click, click, click clock.

[John C. Dvorak]

I know the Dutch Broadcasting Corporation had the same. I know it was from. I must have been from Siemens, probably. They had the same system. Big clock, huge second hand clock, click, click, all synchronized.

[Adam Curry]

Click, click, click.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it's really cool.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. So that was interesting. Big studios. It was just. Definitely had money to spend. So here's the BBC's version of the same. We got y'all got fired. Clip.

[John C. Dvorak]

President Trump has taken steps to slash the US government's foreign broadcasting effort. More than a thousand Voice of America journalists are being put on administrative leave, and funding for its sister services is being halted immediately. More from Peter Hyatt. VOA and its sister services aimed at Europe, Asia and Cuba, were set up to spread American values and accurate news to societies which didn't have them, especially during the Cold War. They have an estimated 400 million listeners. But some Republicans say the stations are biased against conservatives. And now their new ultimate boss, Kari Lake, has said they're being streamlined to what the law requires in order to eliminate waste, waste, fraud and abuse. The US government isn't saying whether the stations, which are broadly equivalent to the BBC World Service, are being closed down completely. But the director of VOA says he and virtually his entire staff of 1300 people have been put on indefinite paid leave. Oh, paid leave. They're going to be pod.

[Adam Curry]

They're going to be podcasting.

[John C. Dvorak]

They're going to be podcasting.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Well, you're on paid leave there. You might as well go podcast just.

[John C. Dvorak]

About clocks for a second. Researchers at Edinburgh University have tested the ability of seven well known multimodal large language models. And it turns out if you give them, if you give these multimodal. Because that means they can look at pictures. If you give them a picture of an analog clock and ask it, what time is it? It can't tell you oh, it's just like a millennial. Exactly.

[Adam Curry]

Or no, a Gen Z. It's a Gen Z that can't read clock.

[John C. Dvorak]

You can't tell time, which I thought was kind of poetic somehow.

[Adam Curry]

It is kind of poetic because it's so screwy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it can't.

[Adam Curry]

No. If you think about time telling time, if you should really think about and you understand that the Gen Z's call it, you know, reading clock, it is kind of screwy.

[John C. Dvorak]

They fed the models different images of analog clocks, timekeepers with Roman numerals, which really screwed it up. Different dial colors, even some missing the second hand as well as 10 years. It can't even figure out calendar images. It can't look at a calendar and then, you know, parse next week from it. Just. It's what you get when you, when you, when you train it on Reddit, I guess. Before we move on, just because I have it, let me just play this SIPA clip from Victoria Newland that might lead us into another topic here. So here's this. This is her as the professor of International Diplomacy, Director of International Fellow Program at Columbia. Sipa. Look, it is really very, very important.

[Adam Curry]

I don't think we ever explained what SIPA stands for. Okay, it's the School of International now, I forgot.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I can look it up. I have it here.

[Adam Curry]

School of International Public Affairs.

[John C. Dvorak]

Public Affairs?

[Adam Curry]

Yes, International Public affairs, which is code for spook.

[John C. Dvorak]

Spook school, yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And why would a computer scientist go there? Makes no sense.

[John C. Dvorak]

Spook school. It is really very, very important that in this period that Europe not only be able to step up, but step up fast. Because as the artillery shells run out, as the air defense interceptors run out, as the ability to produce drones at scale, which have made the difference for Ukraine on the battlefield gets harder. Europe has the capacity not only with these proposals, but conceivably collateralizing against frozen assets that they are holding of Putin's at least for a short time, to do more and to do it fast. The thing that's concerning me most today is the cutoff of intelligence streams from the United States and pressure on allied allies like the UK not to use US intelligence for their own weapons. The primary purpose of US intelligence has been to help the Ukrainians see Russian attacks coming and have advanced warning. There are also key weapons systems that do not queue and do not hit their targets without support from US satellite queuing and the military gps, GPS system. So people are going to die, Ukrainians are going to die. If this pause lasts significantly longer. And it's it is, it is dangerous and it's not a capability that Europe can replace with any kind of speed. That's correct. And imagine my delight and my joy Friday as I'm sitting down to do the podcasting 2.0 board meeting podcast and I see on my quad screen Mark Rutte in the White House. Hello, Mr. President. This is great. I am your number one sales guy. First of all, thank you so much, Mr. President. Dear Donald, again for hosting me. Dear Donald. Dear Donald. Hey, Dear Donald. Dear Donald. Thank you, dear Donald, for hosting me, but also for taking time in Florida a couple of weeks after you were re elected. And of course our phone call a couple of weeks ago. You see, he had phone calls with Mark to talk about the sales program. And I must say, Trump 45, you basically, you originated the fact that in Europe you're now spending, when you take it to aggregate 700 billion more on defense than when you came in office in 2016, 2017. But that was Trump 45. But then when you look at Trump 47, it'll be hard to tell. What happened the last couple of weeks is really staggering. Staggering. It is staggering, Mr. President. I cannot believe the numbers. What happened the last couple of weeks is really staggering. The Europeans committing to a package of 800 billion defense spending. The Germans now have potentially up to half a trillion exile in defense spending. And then of course you had Keir Starmer here, the British Prime Minister and others all committing to much higher defence spending. They're not there. We need to do more. Oh, we need more. We need more. I'm going back out soon. Mr. Donald, dear Donald, to get more. Committing to much higher defence spending. They're not there. We need to do more. But I really want to work together with you in a run up to the summit to make sure that we will have a NATO which is really reinvigorated under your leadership. And we are getting there. Yes, we are getting there. Almost achieve my goals. We also discuss defense production because we need to produce more weaponry. We are not doing enough. Yes. And not in the U.S. not. We are not doing enough. We had to do more. Much, much more, use more weaponry. We are not doing enough. And not in the U.S. not in Europe. And we are lacking behind when you compare to the Russians and the Chinese. And you have a huge defense industrial base. Europeans buying four times more here than the other the other way around. Which is good because you have a strong defense industry. But we need to do more there to make sure that we ramp up the production and kill the Red tape. So I would love to work with you on that. And finally, Ukraine. You broke the deadlock as you said. All the killing, the young people dying, cities getting destroyed, people died. You started the dial with the Russians and the successful talks in Saudi Arabia. Now with the Ukrainians. But wait, here it comes. I have an invitation for you. I really want to commend you for this so well, the Hague is my hometown. I love to host you there in the summer and work together to make sure that that will be a splash, a real success project. A splash. Come, come to the Hague. I will host you there and we will make make a big splash. I really want to commend you for this so well, the Hague is my hometown. I love to host you there in the summer and work together to make sure that that will be a splash, a real success. Projecting American power on the world stage. Yes, Power. American power. This guy is our Schleb. He's fantastic. So all that money that Ursula is raising, Mark Ritter is going to make sure that it's spent here. Here. That's what I'm here. That's what I'm good. I can't believe I. I love man. I love other president saying that. Mark was a great. He was a great prime minister for the Netherlands. The Netherlands went. What? What are you saying? The guy sucked. He was an HR admin for. What's the. The British.

[Adam Curry]

Unilever.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, Unilever for soap. For shampoo.

[Adam Curry]

The soap guy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Soap guy. But what. Wait, wait, wait. Germany is really serious. Welcome back to World affairs in Context, everyone.

[Adam Curry]

Thank you so much for being here. After laying off thousands of employees and.

[John C. Dvorak]

Closing several factories for the first time.

[Adam Curry]

In its history, Volkswagen made a quite shocking announcement. The company's CEO said that it now welcomes an opportunity to produce weapons. Weapons as part of the EU's multi.

[John C. Dvorak]

Billion euro militarization plan. Huh? Where have I heard this before? Where have I heard. Where have I heard? Volkswagen doing weapons in Germany Idle production.

[Adam Curry]

Capacity in the struggling car industry is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Likely to be repurposed, is likely to.

[Adam Curry]

Be converted for the defense industry or if you'd like to be more straightforward.

[John C. Dvorak]

And honest, for the offense industry. You may recall in early March, Ursula.

[Adam Curry]

Von der Leyen and announced the need.

[John C. Dvorak]

To rearm Europe and to create two.

[Adam Curry]

Separate funds of up to $870 billion in total. And so this is just part of the plan. I will remind you that During World War II, Volkswagen produced military vehicles and they also produced bombs.

[John C. Dvorak]

They produced flying bombs or another bright cards for Hitler's armed Nazi forces.

[Adam Curry]

So Volkswagen is. Is going back in time in a sense.

[John C. Dvorak]

We're getting the band back together, baby. We're gonna do V2 flying balls.

[Adam Curry]

This is really great.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is amazing. This is amazing. I mean, it's like they're not. I mean, all this money. I mean, it. Now it's over 10 years. So what is it?

[Adam Curry]

Because we've never been able to extract ourselves from this completely. That's the problem.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no.

[Adam Curry]

We always get suckered into it, or the bankers get this. I mean, if we had not gotten involved in World War I, I think it had been a different situation every. I think it would be a much more peaceful world.

[John C. Dvorak]

So in the. In the European Union. I'm sorry, in Parliament, we have. What's this guy's name? Barry Andrews. I think he's one of the Irish members of Parliament. Parliament.

[Adam Curry]

Troublemaker.

[John C. Dvorak]

He's a big troublemaker. We need some money. We know where to get it. President. Commissioner Hanson. I want to add my voice of.

[Adam Curry]

Support to the argument for the use.

[John C. Dvorak]

Of immobilized Russian assets for Ukraine. At the very least, we should assert the legal right to seize those assets to the reconstruction of Ukraine. Grab them. I have to say I find it very hard to take seriously the sovereign right argument made by Russia, Russia and its sympathizers. In circumstances where Russia has demonstrated a complete and consistent disregard for the sovereignty and territorial integrity of its neighbors, it would be a proportional response by the EU to apply these assets to Ukraine. Given the estimated 500 billion euro in damage done to Ukraine's economy, I have to say that I am informed that the Irish government will bring forward legislation in the next two weeks called the criminal justice violation of EU's restrictive measures bill. The legal basis for the use of these assets is sound and made out by other speakers. All that remains is for us to send a strong political signal, reinforcing the international norm against aggression. Thank you. So, no, the actual troublemaker. Troublemaker is Luis Alvis Perez Fernandez. He was elected to European Parliament on behalf of Spain in 2024. Before that, he was an influencer on social media, and he's the troublemaker. Bueno, Bueno, bueno. And then it starts with, bueno, bueno. You know, isn't that good? Well, well. So if you're Russian, we can take stuff away from you. We can do it with redheads next.

[Adam Curry]

What? What's next?

[John C. Dvorak]

Alluding to the. The Irish Parliament member. What's next, Red? We're going to do it with redheads next. What's next? What are we going to do? Give more power to the bureaucrats in Brussels, the Eurocrats that decide what happens to everyone's lives. We've faced with an economic crisis and what we're saying is more control, more centralization, bring everything to Brussels. And who cares about the blood which has been shed in Ukraine or anywhere else? Let's just make more arms dealers and arms manufacturers millionaires. Von der Leyen knew that they had had weapons in Russia for a long time. Now we say we have to defend ourselves from Russia. They've got four times less tanks than the EU, these tyrants. We're talking about 20% of Ukrainian territory. Let's do away with this circus, this bellicose circus that we call the eu. So it's extremely dangerous, leaving everything in the hands of Eurocrats and murderers. No. What could possibly go wrong? No, no, no. And then in the uk, New Farage.

[Adam Curry]

That guy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Well, unfortunately, it's only in Spanish. In the uk, another influencer, Jasmine Brittles. Jasmine is just astounded by the money that's available. All of a sudden, isn't it marvellous what the possibility of a war can do? Because suddenly we've got billions of pounds that we can give away, billions of pounds that before we didn't have. So we had to take it off the pensioners, we had to take it off the farmers, we had to take it off the business people. But now, suddenly, miraculously, we can come up with billions to give away to a war in another country and then peace. Suddenly we can sacrifice young people. Whereas during COVID remember, we all had to stay indoors in order to save granny. But now, suddenly, that doesn't mean anything because we can send out young people, boys and girls, to go and fight in another country. And also climate change. Isn't it amazing that suddenly nobody's talking about the effects that of war on climate change? Net zero is not mentioned. No. I mean, taking all sorts of horrendous weapons into another country, blowing things up. I mean, can you imagine what that would potentially do to the climate, to pollution levels? Nobody mentions that. I'm not hearing Greta Thunberg do anything. She's not saying a word. The Greens are entirely silent. Nobody says anything about that because everything, everything is pushed aside for some crazy war in Ukraine. How marvelous. How marvelous. Oh, no. Oh, everyone's all in on the coalition of the willing, a group of countries led by the UK and France, stepping.

[Adam Curry]

Up efforts to ensure Ukraine and Europe's.

[John C. Dvorak]

Future security as a peace deal with Russia could be on the cusp.

[Adam Curry]

The Virtual summit was hosted by British Prime Minister Keir Starmer and was organized.

[John C. Dvorak]

In order to exert more pressure on Russian President Vladimir Putin into accepting a.

[Adam Curry]

30 day ceasefire proposed by the US.

[John C. Dvorak]

And backed by Kyiv. We agreed we will keep increasing the pressure on Russia, keep the military aid flowing to Ukraine and keep tightening restrictions on Russia's economy to weaken Putin's war machine and bring him to the table. The meeting follows a dramatic rapprochement between Moscow and the Trump administration and comes.

[Adam Curry]

As a gesture of support from Europe.

[John C. Dvorak]

For Ukraine in the wake of the United States foreign policy change. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has repeatedly expressed.

[Adam Curry]

His country's support for the proposed ceasefire.

[John C. Dvorak]

Urging allies to put pressure on Russia.

[Adam Curry]

I ask you to talk to America, to President Trump, to help bring peace faster. This can happen through full sanctions for ensuring that the aggressor gains nothing from this war. The coalition have proposed a strategy aimed.

[John C. Dvorak]

At increasing military aid to Ukraine as well as boosting their own defense spending in order to ensure security on the continent, while also deploying European forces to Ukraine in the case of a ceasefire.

[Adam Curry]

In order to deter future Russian attacks.

[John C. Dvorak]

Military leaders from around 30 countries will meet in London on Thursday as the coalition moves into the operational phase. I don't know what's happening anymore. Are they going to give the money to us or are they going to build. Give it to Volkswagen? I don't understand.

[Adam Curry]

Both.

[John C. Dvorak]

Both. Yeah. Do you have any. I have more. I don't know if you have anything on. On Ukraine brain.

[Adam Curry]

Do I have anything on. Well, I do have the encirclement thing because there's, you know, now there's a controversy over the encirclement of Kursk. Yes, I have it listed under Lursk in this particular. Yes, it's obvious, and this is interesting because it contradicts what we talked about in the last show.

[John C. Dvorak]

Ukrainian forces are on the defensive in Kursk, the region of western Russia they invaded and occupied six months ago. Russia's Defense Ministry said it had retaken two more villages from retreating Ukrainian forces. But are they surrounded? Well, Donald Trump has claimed thousands are and pleaded with Vladimir Putin for their lives.

[Adam Curry]

Russia's president has in turn said Ukrainian.

[John C. Dvorak]

Troops would be given decent treatment if they surrendered.

[Adam Curry]

But President Zelensky said this was not right.

[John C. Dvorak]

The encirclement of the Ukrainian military is a lie of Putin. There is no encirclement of the Ukrainian military in the Kursk region. What kind of signals are these coming from the Russian side? I think that Russia wants to surround the Ukrainian Military in the same way, but on the territory of Ukraine.

[Adam Curry]

The respected US Think tank, the Institute.

[John C. Dvorak]

For the Study of War, said it had observed no geolocated evidence to indicate Russian forces had encircled a significant number of Ukrainian troops. It said Mr. Putin was seeking to present himself, himself as a merciful leader and distract from his refusal to agree an immediate ceasefire. I think this is a new one to use. No geospatial evidence. Not just no evidence. There's no geospatial evidence. I have similar reports from Andrew Rasulas, who's the Canadian former defense guy, and he's actually in Poland now, I think, training with the Polish. The Canadian troops are training with the Polish troops. Getting ready for something that sounds like a really bad idea. Idea.

[Adam Curry]

Well, that's most of our show.

[John C. Dvorak]

And so the first question is, so really seems like Ukraine is all in. They're good to go. Why is Putin resisting? What is happening? What do you think could be the reasons behind Putin's reluctance to fully accept ceasefire under these terms? The first part of the but and.

[Adam Curry]

The big part is the Russians will.

[John C. Dvorak]

Not agree, in my opinion, with the ceasefire until they have pushed back all.

[Adam Curry]

Of the Ukrainian forces that entered into Russia proper in the Kursk Oblast last summer. At that time, Putin was very clear.

[John C. Dvorak]

He made a statement saying the Ukrainians.

[Adam Curry]

By doing this incursion, are trying to.

[John C. Dvorak]

Get a negotiating bargaining chip to leverage.

[Adam Curry]

Off the territories that Russia has in Ukraine.

[John C. Dvorak]

And he said that's not going to happen.

[Adam Curry]

And basically, the Russians have been increasing.

[John C. Dvorak]

The tempo of their counteroffensive operations throughout the fall. And we're now at the point where.

[Adam Curry]

Ukrainians are holding on to certainly less.

[John C. Dvorak]

Than 50% of the territory they took.

[Adam Curry]

Last summer, and it could be down.

[John C. Dvorak]

To maybe 20 or 30%. I mean, Putin has said that they're.

[Adam Curry]

Surrounded, but that's being disputed. But the point is he wants to push Ukrainians out. No bargaining chip for Ukraine to leverage.

[John C. Dvorak]

That salient against what the Russians hold in Ukraine. So he goes a little bit deeper on the Are they surrounded or not? You mentioned these kind of conflicting reports, whether Ukrainian troops are in fact encircled in the Kursk oblasting. In the Kursk region. Ukrainians are denying it.

[Adam Curry]

They're saying Putin's claims are false.

[John C. Dvorak]

How do you interpret these differing reports? Based on the various sources that I've.

[Adam Curry]

Been able to access, it would seem.

[John C. Dvorak]

That the Ukrainians are being pushed, but.

[Adam Curry]

They'Re not surrounded in the sense that.

[John C. Dvorak]

They still have an exit route back to Ukraine.

[Adam Curry]

So they're not completely surrounded, but they are being pressured.

[John C. Dvorak]

A cauldron you can call like that.

[Adam Curry]

But it's not completely closed at the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Other end toward the Ukrainian border. A cauldron. Hmm. So there's holes in the plan. Holes in the plan and then a lot of area.

[Adam Curry]

So I could see. Yeah. Then of course that's believable.

[John C. Dvorak]

So the real question is, will President Putin accept the coalition of the willing or will it have to be something else? And once again, I think I've predicted the answer. Yeah. He's not going to agree to a Western, like a Western European Canadian peacekeeping force, which he sees as basically a NATO light. He'll look at more like a UN force of neutral countries that are not.

[Adam Curry]

Providing assistance to Ukraine as an eventual peacekeeping force. But also he's looking beyond 30 days.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, there's what's going to happen after 30 days. So he wants to make sure that Russia's position going into to a cease fire whenever they are ready and one day they will be ready. But they're going to make sure that.

[Adam Curry]

They'Re in an advantageous position to then have the cease fire and then negotiate from a position of strength, the follow on peace agreement. Because the Russians are very keen to.

[John C. Dvorak]

Make sure that they have a comprehensive peace settlement that's bolted on to the cease fire. Blue helmets. Blue helmets incoming. This is.

[Adam Curry]

That would make sense and that would be sound like a negotiation negotiable. Negotiable thing. Well, we won't do this, but we'll do that because he has to give in on something because he said he doesn't want any security forces in there. But I bet she'd go for that. Yeah, because those blue helmets, bunch of boneheads. And they're going to give the Ukraine the effective. If it goes according to form, every Ukrainian will get cholera.

[John C. Dvorak]

Cholera incoming. Cheryl Atkinson had a sit down with President Trump. Are you speaking to Putin in the last days or hours personally? Well, I don't want to say it but we are dealing with him and I think, I think. What is this? I don't want to say it, but we are dealing.

[Adam Curry]

I don't want to say it, but this is interest.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let me hear that again. Are you speaking to Putin in the last days or hours personally? Well, I don't want to say it but we are dealing with him and.

[Adam Curry]

I think, I think it's going reasonably well. A very complex situation. You know, it's a bloody terrible war.

[John C. Dvorak]

And I do think it's going well.

[Adam Curry]

As you know, we have a ceasefire.

[John C. Dvorak]

Agreement with the Ukrainian group and we are trying to get that with Russia.

[Adam Curry]

Too, and I think thus far it's gone.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay. We'll know a little bit more on.

[Adam Curry]

Monday and that'll be hopefully good.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm not understating the complexity of all this, but as a candidate, you said you would have this war settled in 24 hours. Well, I was being a little bit.

[Adam Curry]

Sarcastic when I said that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay. I was being sarcastic. A little bit sarcastic.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, a funny definition of the word sarcastic.

[John C. Dvorak]

That is an incorrect definition of sarcastic.

[Adam Curry]

President.

[John C. Dvorak]

We're not buying that one.

[Adam Curry]

Well, well, I was being a little.

[John C. Dvorak]

Bit sarcastic when I said that. I wouldn't. What I really mean is I'd like to get it settled and I'll.

[Adam Curry]

Hold on. What he should. The word he should have used instead of sarcastic, which was a mistake. I think he's maybe.

[John C. Dvorak]

Big mistake. Big mistake.

[Adam Curry]

He should have said hopeful. If you substitute the word hopeful.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Which is a great political term to use because hope is a big deal according to a lot of research.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

So if he said, well, I was just being hopeful, then it would have been soft and it wouldn't have been subject to our ridicule or anybody else, for that matter.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think it's very damning. I mean, it's no good. I don't think you or I thought that he could fix it within 24 hours. But then to say I was being sarcastic.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, no, he should have. He screwed up. That was a screw up.

[John C. Dvorak]

These are not the words of a Wharton School of business graduate. Mr. President. President, this is no good. Well, I was being a little bit sarcastic when I said that I would.

[Adam Curry]

What I really mean is I'd like.

[John C. Dvorak]

To get it settled and I'll think I'll, I think I'll be successful. What's the plan if Putin doesn't agree to a cease fire?

[Adam Curry]

Bad news for this world because so.

[John C. Dvorak]

Many people are dying. But I think, I think he's going, going to agree. I really do.

[Adam Curry]

I think I know him pretty well and I think he's going to agree.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, we shall see. He thinks he's going to agree. We shall see. And let me see, you know, there was, there was a term that I heard on the Bloomberg surveillance podcast from hsbc. You know, these tariffs, the on again, off again, which I believe is meant to. And I'm seeing this everywhere now. It's like, is everyone listening to the show or was it so obvious? I'm seeing a lot of people saying, oh, Trump's doing this to bring the economy down. Now. They all also Say, and then the Fed will have to cut rates. I don't think that's that easy. And also the market is up and down, up and down.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, the market was up again. Pre did a bunch of shows for NPR for the weekend and they're going on and on about the market being down, but it went up over 2%, rocketed. Wait a minute, you guys screwed up that one.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. So here's the Bloomberg Surveillance surveillance podcast and they have a term which I think maybe a DH unplugged could use now from hsbc.

[Adam Curry]

Max Kent.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think we're still tactically quite cautious.

[Adam Curry]

On equities overall, particularly of course in the us. We've just put out a note this morning. I think this is the kind of time where you need to update your.

[John C. Dvorak]

Framework, your indicators pretty much on an hourly basis.

[Adam Curry]

Because like you guys were just discussing, of course, even yesterday things were changing pretty much three times during the day. So when we look at our indicators at the moment, particularly from a systematic perspective, of course, yes, there has been quite a bit of systematic selling. But what we're not yet seeing is this sort of final puke.

[John C. Dvorak]

So when we look for example at.

[Adam Curry]

Our momentum/CTA indicators, they are bearish. They flipped from maximum bullish to bearish, but they're only at sort of medium bearish levels until now. So we need, I think for us to be comfortable, to go back in and to buy the dip. I think we need a bit more sort of a puke moment in equities to really say, right, this is the all clear now, positioning is clear enough.

[John C. Dvorak]

Remember what, what Powell Powell was saying.

[Adam Curry]

On Friday, we're in no hurry at all to do anything in rates.

[John C. Dvorak]

Max. A lot to unpack that.

[Adam Curry]

Let's start with the technical term puke. What is the cathartic puke look like?

[John C. Dvorak]

We had a 10% decline at 1 point in yesterday's session, so entered correction territory briefly. If it's not that, what is it? I think what we need to see is broader based.

[Adam Curry]

I think what you would want to see is sort of the final broad based puke where it's not just tech and the high multiple stuff that gets hacked hammered, but really the broader market where perhaps even the equal weighted S and P underperforms the cap weighted S.

[John C. Dvorak]

And P. We're really playing US recession.

[Adam Curry]

Fears and that should spill over into global equity markets. Once we've got that, I think that is then sort of the final puke.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think this conversation needs a bit of antacid.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, I have to chime in here. This was a bet. This is a inside broadcasting info. This is the kind of thing.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's a podcast.

[Adam Curry]

There was a bet involved. I am going to introduce the word. Can you use the word puke? I'm going to not only use the word puke and I'll bet you 100 bucks I'll use it 10 times in different ways and it's going to catch on. This is bull crap.

[John C. Dvorak]

I can't wait to hear Andrew Horowitz talking about the market's final puke. We need a big puke.

[Adam Curry]

Final puke. I like final pu.

[John C. Dvorak]

We need a projectile puke. We need something really good to get this market back in its spot so we can update our indicators. I don't know, man. I just love the financial guys. They don't know what they're doing anymore.

[Adam Curry]

They never have known what they're doing. It's all been smoke and mirrors.

[John C. Dvorak]

No kidding.

[Adam Curry]

If it goes up, you have the same reason they went down by just buy. If you're on cnbc, it's buy, buy, buy.

[John C. Dvorak]

And with that, I want to thank you for your courage. Say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in the Ukrainian Aldrin, Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only, Mr. John C. Devorah.

[Adam Curry]

Good morning to you, Mr. Adler Curry in the morning, all ships and seat boosts on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water and the dames and knights out there.

[John C. Dvorak]

In the morning to the trolls hanging out in the troll room. Let's stop. Stop moving. Let me count you. There we go. I think it's around average 2535. 2,535.

[Adam Curry]

That sounds right.

[John C. Dvorak]

And well, let me just check the averages. Last Sunday was 2452. It is below the 10 show average, but above the last 100 show average, which is 2291. So. Yes, I love these averages. Yeah, you do. I really do.

[Adam Curry]

It's sucker for bull crap.

[John C. Dvorak]

Bull crap. By the way, I do want to say that, you know, I was very egotistical just talking about the fire here in Fredericksburg in hill country. The tornadoes have been pretty bad across Alabama, Tennessee.

[Adam Curry]

What do you mean egotistical? Well, because I gave a factual report.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, but I only talked about our strife and not about other people's struggles.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, well, that was what people wanted to hear.

[John C. Dvorak]

I know. Okay, well, there you go. So I was spot on the moral money.

[Adam Curry]

You were.

[John C. Dvorak]

Screw you. I was very worried.

[Adam Curry]

I've seen, you know, those Tornadoes are terrible. It's got nothing to do with you.

[John C. Dvorak]

And you know what the first report was. I hate to say it, but it's always some poor guy in a mobile home. It's like.

[Adam Curry]

It's always the mobile homes, they're magnetic.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's. They attract them for some reason. Yeah. Louisiana, 34 people killed yesterday, according to Jeremy, the Dell dealer. So it's not good. It's not good. Good. Anyway, those trolls. I don't know if anyone is from Louisiana, but the trolls are hanging out in the troll room at Trollroom IO. They might be listening on a modern podcast app. I checked. Actually, you'd think that Fountain was a leading app. It turns out 17% of people listen to this show on Podverse, which I was surprised by.

[Adam Curry]

Did you get that number?

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, at op3.de vo this is another part. I asked op3.de this is an open source download system, which. The numbers really don't matter as long as everybody uses it and a lot of people are starting to use it. So you can all kind of see what you're doing. You know, we have in the month of February, which was a short month, we had 875,000 unique people downloading the show, whatever that means. But Podverse, you know how many people [e-mail] on the website? Just take a guess.

[Adam Curry]

Lots.

[John C. Dvorak]

11%.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, that didn't surprise me. I listen to most podcasts online like.

[John C. Dvorak]

That, you know, it's surprising. I think the concept of a podcast app is kind of a little outdated.

[Adam Curry]

Well, not if it's only. No, it's only 11%. That means that 90% of people are using it on an app.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, no. Oh, no. All kinds of different things. Things. That's just noagendashow.net, people who listen to it from other places.

[Adam Curry]

What's the number of people using it on an app? Because an app is the original podcast concept.

[John C. Dvorak]

The total number is less than half.

[Adam Curry]

Well, it's still a good number.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think the.

[Adam Curry]

Is it growing or shrinking? There's the question.

[John C. Dvorak]

The apps are shrinking.

[Adam Curry]

What is the vector?

[John C. Dvorak]

The vector directional. I don't have another word for it is down on apps. And I think it's because. Well, first of all. Well, back in the, you know, when we created podcast apps, there was no bandwidth. You had maybe always on computing. So you want. And you had one device, it was the ipod. You didn't have a smartphone. Now you just tap on something, it plays right away. The whole point was it downloads your Podcast when you're sleeping or whatever keeps it. Yeah. And you pick up your ipod and you got your new shows. I think. Really, what is it? It's the inbox. Fatigue. Fatigue. Because you look at your podcast app, you're like, oh, I got 57 as shows I haven't listened to. I think it's depressing people. It's just my thinking. I don't know.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I know Mimi listens when it's either she listens streaming, and then she. If she misses it, she's like, yeah, maybe I'll catch next show.

[John C. Dvorak]

She sent me a note. She said, me, no. Drat the luck. She said, says, there goes my leverage over John.

[Adam Curry]

About the fact that you discovered my 11 labs trick.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. I guess she was lording that over you. Like, take out the garbage or. I'm gonna tell Adam. What? Do the laundry. I'm gonna tell Adam. Was she doing that to you, man? Was she doing that?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. That's all she does. Points of leverage. And it's like, it's just a normal marriage. This is what you do.

[John C. Dvorak]

Maybe after 35 years. How long you guys been married?

[Adam Curry]

I don't know.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's my favorite. I don't know. And you're celebrating your birthday that coming up in April. You don't know how old you are. Like 65. What. What are we this year? I don't remember.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, something 73, I think.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't think so.

[Adam Curry]

Way too old. They're too old to be a podcaster yet.

[John C. Dvorak]

They call me the Boomer. I don't know. I don't know. It's. It's. It's horrific. Anyway, the reason why you do want one of those modern podcast apps like podverse is because you can just keep it in your pocket. And then when we go live, the bat signal fires and you get a notification, boom. You tap in, you're listening live, so you'll never miss it. And Mimi should try that, because then she won't miss it. She can listen to much work. It's not too much work. Podcastapps.com the entire podcast. One of the genius things we did, considering all the hate we've gotten throughout the years. I mean, just Covid itself. Remember in the beginning with COVID You guys are horrible. I can't believe that you think this is bullcrap. This is the worst disaster ever. We're all going to die. I can't believe it. And then, remember when the Ukraine war kicked off, People left the show. They rage, quit.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. We lost a lot of listeners because we weren't in support of this stupid war.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, man. I mean, there were even Ukraine flags all over hill country at the time. So, you know. Yes, but we weren't in lockstep. And.

[Adam Curry]

And, you know, and we never will, because that's our nature.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, and we. And we. If we had had advertising, we definitely would have lost that.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, we'd be out of business.

[John C. Dvorak]

We'd be podcasting for free. That's for sure. So instead, we decided, no, you know what? Why don't we just. The people who come at this moment in time for such a time as this.

[Adam Curry]

And some people come and some people go. I'm reminded of. I was looking when I was doing their research on this Khalil guy. I was reminded of our. We had a guy who was a genuine economic hitman who listened to the show, and he was great because he would tell us, or at least give you.

[John C. Dvorak]

He would give you.

[Adam Curry]

He never wanted some insight onto what was. Especially Africa, what was going on. He went to John Hopkins. He was working there out of some office, and then all of a sudden, he started dating a Russian girl who turned out to be working for the. That State Department, that little creepy State Department intelligence service. And she just said, stop listening to those guys. And that's what he did. And I. You know, and the reason I was looking at. Because I looked at the State Department, this agency is called the Bureau of Intelligence and research, which is. INR is referred to as a small group.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's INR. Is that what it's called? INR?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, INR. It's a. It's between 300 and 500 people. They don't know for sure because it's the most secretive of all our intel agencies. And I think that the reason Rubio is acting so cocky is because they got. They put this guy in who's originally a Trump guy, this guy named Bloom or Blom or Bl. Om me. This guy runs it. He's under Secretary of State temporarily, but. But this. This intelligence agency, I think, has got so much good stuff.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

That it opened the Rubio's eyes, and he was just. He's just basically pissed all the time because of what's going on. That he now knows what's going on, but he can't really say.

[John C. Dvorak]

Right.

[Adam Curry]

Which is why I think he does have that tell of talking too fast, which has got to be correct when he. When he's got information. I think that's why he was speaking.

[John C. Dvorak]

Going fast.

[Adam Curry]

Speaking about this Khalil character, because I I, they, they obviously known about the guy. Now either, you know, this is an extraction, as I suggested, or it could be some guy's gone rogue and they had to get him out of there. But he let him get his degree, his master's from sipa, so that it wasn't that bad. So. But yes, there's a bunch of this just the whole government is too spooky.

[John C. Dvorak]

And then October 7th, when we, when we, when we defended Israel, we didn't blame the Jews now. Oh, everyone.

[Adam Curry]

No, but we did talk about the possibilities.

[John C. Dvorak]

Of what?

[Adam Curry]

Of that. That it was a setup. They were lured in to make this attack.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, I still believe it was set up.

[Adam Curry]

Totally discussed.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. I mean, even the guy in charge says, oh, we screwed up. Yeah, all right, all right. But that's not the point. You see, you have to hate the Jews because the Jews have everything on Epstein, and Epstein controls all of Congress and the Senate. And Trump. There were people on X the other day asking, grok, does Adam have Jewish ancestry?

[Adam Curry]

Really?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. This is how unhinged. And luckily Grok at least came back. Said. Now it doesn't seem like it. Well, his dad was a high ranking CIA official, maybe my uncle. But no, I mean, it's. People are nuts, John. They're nuts. They're nuts.

[Adam Curry]

They are nuts. They're nuts and they're stupid.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, there's a lot of that.

[Adam Curry]

They're suckers.

[John C. Dvorak]

A lot. Well, I also think a lot. There's a lot of bots on X still. There's a lot of bots. So. And I think that Blockman, Brink, that might, that must have been a. Some kind of op.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I would think. Yeah, it sounds like it. I think that, I think we get tested once in a while by some of these guys, see how we react to it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, good luck, guys. You got to get up a lot earlier to disturb a problem with these boomers.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, we're old boomers. I'm the old boomer. You're a young boomer.

[John C. Dvorak]

I can't give into it. It's hard for me to admit. 64.

[Adam Curry]

I don't think you need to admit it. You could be that whatever that one crazy moniker was, Generation Jones.

[John C. Dvorak]

Generation Jones Jones.

[Adam Curry]

No, brother. Generation Alex Jones. I mean, what kind of generation is that? That.

[John C. Dvorak]

So we decided to run it on a system we call value for value. And that means, very simply, if you get anything out of this show, send it back to us. Send the value back. Time, talent, treasure. People have done a lot of things for us throughout the years. Back in the day, one of our producers. I forget who it was. I don't know if he's still around. He jerry rigged the SEO for no Agenda. And we still have the first two pages. I think if you just search for no Agenda. Aren't we still. Still.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, we're still dominating the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. No Agenda show. No Agenda podcast. Oh, on YouTube. We're on YouTube. Oh, really? Yeah. Know Agenda News Network. Yeah. There's still EULA for you. I mean. Yeah. So that kind of stuff has been very, very helpful. Now we also appreciate the work that our artists do. I think this also does help to some degree with search engine optimization. It must confuse the AI when they see when they're scanning through our system. Like, oh, I'm ingesting something I made, I'm gonna puke. And that's probably what Gun Monkey did who brought us the artwork for episode 1746. We titled that bedtime hygiene, which is what TikTok now delivers to your kids. And he created a Canadian cow.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Yeah, it was cute.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, cute is the right word. That's exactly what it was. It was just cute. And Gun Monkey has only been around for a month.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. But he submits quite a few pieces. He's got AI chops.

[John C. Dvorak]

He does have some AI chops. Other. And this is no Agenda.

[Adam Curry]

This was an AI piece. There's no question about it.

[John C. Dvorak]

All his pieces are AI See, now the one you wanted, of course, was Darren O'Neill's red headed cheesecake holding up the sign JCD was right.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. That would be the best one to use.

[John C. Dvorak]

And then you said, how. Let's just use Snow White. I'm like, you want a lawsuit from Disney?

[Adam Curry]

I forgot about that.

[John C. Dvorak]

That didn't make any sense. What else? There's a big F U C K.

[Adam Curry]

I was also the one who pushed the cow.

[John C. Dvorak]

You did push the cow because you.

[Adam Curry]

Were kind of pushing back against the cow. You didn't like it at first.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, there wasn't much else but you.

[Adam Curry]

Well, there's also. There wasn't anything else compared to the cow.

[John C. Dvorak]

You pushed the cow. You were right. You were correct to push the cow. And I can tell you looking right now, there's plenty of opportunity to still win the coveted slot of artwork for the show. Just from what I'm seeing being submitted, I guess we haven't come up with anything. Good. Good Yet. It's always our own fault.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. The content determines the art.

[John C. Dvorak]

It does. It does. No Agenda art generator dot com. Thank you very much. Gun. What was his Name Gun. Gun.

[Adam Curry]

Gun.

[John C. Dvorak]

Gun Monkey. Gun Monkey. Yes. Good job Gun Monkey. Of course, many of these pieces of art show up in our chapters which are available in many podcast apps, even Pocket Cast which is a very big app. They now also have chapters, the 2.0 chapters. They have a web based player now so you can get your your art scene far and wide. Now as a part of our time talent we have the treasure in value for value and that means we are going to thank people who supported the show financially, critically important and we always thank everybody. $50 and above. Anything under 50 we will not mention there's a cutoff there for reasons of answers, anonymity and as an extra bonus, if you Support us with $200 or more, you get a credit. An official Hollywood credit. Just use can be used anywhere including IMDb.com the credit title of associate executive producer and we will read your note. $300 or above. Then you go up to the upper echelons, you become an executive producer and we will read your note. Same criteria applied to executive producer. It is, it is. Anywhere credits are recognized it will be accepted. And if anyone, one of the cheapest.

[Adam Curry]

Executive producers can buy most of the time. If you're an executive producer of a movie, let's say there's millions of dollars. Millions. Yeah, millions.

[John C. Dvorak]

You do get to bang the actress, but yeah, I mean, hey, what do you want for 200 bucks?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, well that's true.

[John C. Dvorak]

And we kick it off. We kick it off with Sir Mike who's in Las Vegas, Nevada. 515 38A. Let's see, he says with. Oh, that is the number he supported us with. ITM Amigos. With this donation of 515 38, I've achieved the titles of both Commodore and Baron. Last I saw the peerage map, MIA as of today. Oh really? Clark County, Nevada was not taken. So I'd like to claim that since I do not technically live in the city of Las Vegas, I never received an official title. So I'd like to be known as Sir Mike, Slayer of town taxes. As a financial advisor who works to save his clients from the tax man, I can be found at Best Financial Advisor in the universe dot com. Well now there's one you can remember. Best Financial advisor in the universe dot com. I would love some jobs karma for my two human resources. How about the original Nancy Pelosi jingle for them? Well, isn't that the one we play?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, that's the regular normal one.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, and throw in a random sharpen for me. You can never go wrong with little AI. Oh little owl. I thought AI can never go wrong with a little owl to brighten my day. Well now there is a fact. Let me see. Do I have. Yes, I got some Little owl. Thanks for creating a bit of sanity in this crazy world. And he will be a commodore as well, sir. Commodore Baron Mike of Clark County, Nevada. Slayer of taxes.

[Adam Curry]

Jobs, Jobs, Jobs and jobs. Let's vote for Jobs Job. You've got karma.

[John C. Dvorak]

R E S P I C T.

[Adam Curry]

Aaron comes up from Colorado Springs, Colorado at 5:15 38. Same amount. The last six months have been a complete excrement show for us. I'm trying not to curse verse for lent. Well I rely on Jesus Christ for most of the support we need. I'm reaching out for heathen jobs karma.

[John C. Dvorak]

We got a whole helping for you. A helping.

[Adam Curry]

Lot of heathen jobs karma for you there.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes we do.

[Adam Curry]

For my smoking hot wife, myself and the no agenda community. As this is my first donation. Hopefully this de douches me. You've been de douched and is still in time for a commodore ship. Yes, you got it. I would like to give anyone can. There's still time people. I would like to give value for the sanity you provide over the last several years. Please give me the following jingles. You're going to need a bitcoin. They are eating the cats. Little girl. We are all going to die. The F35 scream followed by jobs, Karma for all.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh my goodness, that's a lot.

[Adam Curry]

Please call out Brennan and Johan, Joanna as douchebags.

[John C. Dvorak]

Douchebag. One more.

[Adam Curry]

God protect you. Four more years. Aaron. In Colorado Springs, Colorado.

[John C. Dvorak]

They're saying that all hell is going to break loose and you're going to need a bitcoin.

[Adam Curry]

They're eating the dogs.

[John C. Dvorak]

The people that came in. They're eating the cats. They're eating, eating.

[Adam Curry]

They're eating the pets. We're all gonna die. Jobs, Jobs, Jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.

[John C. Dvorak]

A lot there. Corey D. Wright, Ellensburg, WA 333.33. Without a doubt our favorite donation amount. Hello crackpot and buzzkill. This is a first time donation. I've been saving up the pennies and this is a make good for past douchey transgressions. A dude named Ben who was a good friend and suspected douchebag hit me in the mouth a while back. In turn I hit Big Head from Georgia in the mouth and he beat me to a de douching. I couldn't let this stand any longer. My family all enjoy the show and Want you to keep up the great work. A de douching and a Donald loves Nazis jingle. Pretty please from C Dub and the family in Ellensburg, Washington.

[Adam Curry]

You've been de douched.

[John C. Dvorak]

Donald loves Nazis. Donald loves Nazis. CNN say that he's KKK and he shouts a sick hail with it. Wow.

[Adam Curry]

Hey, Ray Salmon in Madison, New Jersey, 3:33. He wrote a note in because it came in as a check. ITM, John and Adam encloses my contribution of 33333, which gets me to knighthood status. He's got the accounting. Please dub me Sir Woody the Phantom. And serve, serve. Oh, and serve. Widow. I can't read.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I saw it earlier. It's widow Jane, 15 year whiskey and home baked Nestle Toll House cookie. Chocolate chip cookie.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, then, you've already ordered them. Looks like pookies, by the way.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I ordered those too.

[Adam Curry]

I would like a little girl. Yay, jobs. Karma. Trump version and follow for two good friends that need it. Thanks again for all your work, Ray in Madison, New Jersey.

[John C. Dvorak]

Jobs, jobs, jobs.

[Adam Curry]

You've got karma.

[John C. Dvorak]

And that brings us to Sir Proteus in Newark, Delaware. This is a donation on behalf of my wonderful wife, Avis, for her birthday on the 16th. So just. That's today.

[Adam Curry]

That's an interesting name.

[John C. Dvorak]

Avis. Yeah. Spelled A V, I, C, E. Avis. With this donation, she reaches damehood and should become Dame Avis, hugger of Hound Jones. Avis, you are the best mother, friend and wife. You are aging like a fine wine. So each year with you is better than the last.

[Adam Curry]

I don't know if that's a bro.

[John C. Dvorak]

Here's a pro tip.

[Adam Curry]

Itching like a fine wine is not something you say.

[John C. Dvorak]

We know you mean well. We know you mean well. Jingles biscuit on my birthday. And karma, Sir Proteus. They always give me a biscuit on my birthday.

[Adam Curry]

You've got karma. Sir John In Heber Springs, Arkansas, 317 25, Sir John Knight of St. Patrick shouts, Happy St. Pat's oh, yes. Happy St. Pat's St. Patrick's Day is tomorrow, I think.

[John C. Dvorak]

Is it today or tomorrow?

[Adam Curry]

I think it's tomorrow. Because today you probably made a donation.

[John C. Dvorak]

Out of I got drunk on the wrong day.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, no. Also a shout out to sir the Slardy Bartfat last. I'll meet you at the restaurant at the end of the universe. Code.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's code. Douglas Adams material 31415 from surface tension. Any requests? A random sharpton. I'm donating on behalf of my late mother, Ann steadman. Born on March 14th. We wish her a happy belated. I'll have the executive producer credit as she hated the show.

[Adam Curry]

Great.

[John C. Dvorak]

Rest in peace. And after a few years, I'll award her a damehood out of spite. A spitehood. If you will play me out with a spider. This is a good one. People should be doing that all the time. A spitehood. Play me out with some Sharpton, please. R, E, S, P, I C, T. Beautiful spitehood.

[Adam Curry]

And here comes Sir Scovy, our Buddy in Charlotte, North Carolina. 3, 14, 15. The content in the donation segments of late has been outstanding.

[John C. Dvorak]

Amen.

[Adam Curry]

Thank you. Yes, this donation brings me to Archduke. The usual roundtable fare will do. Plus a round of Pabst Blue Ribbon for the trolls in the troll room. Thank you for your courage, Sir Scovie. The Archduke of the Piedmont.

[John C. Dvorak]

Very nice. 3:15. 3:13:50 from Anonymous in Omaha, Nebraska. It could be Warren Buffett for all we know. Adam and John, in honor of the new the ball is in your half of the court day, which is now forever. March 13th. 3:13. Yes. 3:13. The ball is in your half of the court day. I Send to you 313 and 1 extra half a dollar to drive home the point that this is now your half of the court. John is right. What an absolute BS nonsensical saying. Add this to the list of other idioms that are trash but still repeated, and he has a list. The proof is in the pudding. Bite the bullet. Raining cats and dogs. Put a sock in it and you can have your cake and eat it too. I'll take raining cats and dogs for 300. Alex, if you could write 100 pages on how wrong these are, I could write 100 pages on how wrong these all are. But I won't. I know you guys are busy. I struggle with brevity. Jingles9999 in WTC 7 and a jobs Karma Anonymous in Nebraska.

[Adam Curry]

Jobs, Jobs, Jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs on. We're with Dr. Another regular Dr. Sharkey. Sir Dr. Sharkey in Jackson, Tennessee. Two 2905. He says John and Adam, with this donation, have officially passed into Dukedom.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow.

[Adam Curry]

If approved by this by the no Agenda Peerage Committee, I'd like to be known as Duke. Sir Dr. Sharkey, Lord of Mars.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, that's. You got fair game. Fair game.

[Adam Curry]

I want to claim it before Elon gets there. Itm Karma for all.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, Karma for all. You got it.

[Adam Curry]

You've got karma.

[John C. Dvorak]

And that brings us to Bensonville, Illinois. It's Eli, the coffee guy. He's back 2032016 Associate Executive Producership for him and then he says shout out to the Millennial Media Offensive podcast. I initially found them on the no Agenda stream and have been listening ever since. They're on point with their news analysis, especially breakdowns of international events. I would suggest all no Agenda producers give them a listen. I would also suggest that all producers visit gigawatt coffee roasters.com and grab some amazing fresh roasted coffee today. Remember to use code ITM20 at checkout for 20% off your order and stay caffeinate, says Eli the Coffee Guy.

[Adam Curry]

Which brings us to our last donor, Linda loopatkin in Lakewood, Colorado. Comes with $200 even and says Jobs Karma. And for a competitive edge with a resume that gets results, go to ImageMakers Inc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs. That's Image Makers Inc. With a K. And work with Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs and writer of Resumes. Jobs, Jobs, Jobs and Jobs Karma.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, and that wraps up our executive and associate executive producers. By the way, Professor J. Jones in China made a major sitar Karma. In case everyone wants that in the future. Here's you can request that. Now you've got karma. And with a goat, in case you're needing some sitar Goat Karma. We thank these executives.

[Adam Curry]

Worst sitar ever.

[John C. Dvorak]

As sitar goes, is pretty bad. We appreciate you executive and associate executive producers. The credits are real. They last a lifetime. You can put them on IMDb.com and we will be thankful. Thanking people $50 and above. In our second segment, we always thank everybody. Tell you how much they supported us because we enjoy it so much. It is good for us. It's good for the show. It keeps us going for another three years and nine months approximately. We just shortened it to four more years. No agenda donations.com set up a recurring donation check. If you had one, it may have expired. Any amount, any frequency. No agenda donations.com ow. I didn't mean to do that one. I mean, I [e-mail] and thank you again for supporting the show. Our formula is this.

[Adam Curry]

We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Order.

[John C. Dvorak]

Shut up slave. Shut up slave.

[Adam Curry]

I want to run this clip. This is a. You played Scott earlier with that other woman. And the clips I had earlier were.

[John C. Dvorak]

Scott or Scott from NPR.

[Adam Curry]

Those were both from the show called Up First. And Up first is described the following way. It's three stories in 15 minutes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow. The things people have time for.

[Adam Curry]

So they do three stories in 15 minutes. I want to play the credit role.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

And you want, you know, you wonder about Doge and government waste and fraud and abuse.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

I want to play the credit roll for this show up first, which is three stories in 15 minutes. This is the credit roll and that's.

[John C. Dvorak]

Up first for Saturday, March 15th, 2025. I'm Ayesha Rascoe. And I'm Scott Simon. Martin Patience produced today's episode with help from Ryan Bates and Phil Harold. Our editors are Dee Purvez, Shannon Rhodes, Ed McNulty, Kelsey Snell and Arizu Rezvani. Andrew Craig is our director with support.

[Adam Curry]

From technical director Andy Huether.

[John C. Dvorak]

And the engineers who help us out, David Greenberg, Zach Coleman and Arthur Halliday. Laurent.

[Adam Curry]

Evie Stone is our senior supervising editor. And Sarah Lucy Oliver is our executive producer. Jennifer.

[John C. Dvorak]

Jim Cain is our deputy managing editor. I counted and they actually have more producers than we had for this show.

[Adam Curry]

I counted it a couple of times to get it right. Sixteen people were mentioned.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

Not including those two for a total of 18 people to put together a 15 minute show of three stories.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. And we, we do three to three and a half hours with 12 executive and associate executive producers who did nothing for the content except for the funny content in their notes.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. They wrote a note saying thank you. Yeah, yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

They should doge that place. Oh, is that a verb? Is that a verb yet they should doze that place.

[Adam Curry]

Doge it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Doge it. So speaking of boomers, I think I forwarded this to you. Several of our boomer producers reached out and said, hey, an old joke from John made it into the AARP magazine.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I did get that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let me see, where is it? Here, hold on a second.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, I used to do for April Fool.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

For both Mac user and PC computer. And I started doing this at Infoworld early, but I started doing it every year. I would do an April Fool's gag and about three or four of them were classics and got into various halls of fame.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

And this was one of them.

[John C. Dvorak]

And it was. And here it is. No drinking on the web. As the Internet was just gaining popularity. The April 1994 issue. Where were you in 1994 of PC Commander Computer A Computing ran a column by John C. Dvorak about a non existent senate bill designed to prohibit anyone from using a public computer network while the computer user is intoxicated. Dvorak said some clueless senators thought the so called information superhighway was an actual road. Did that work in 1994?

[Adam Curry]

It worked to such an Extreme that Senators Pat Leahy got so much grief that I got feedback from his office.

[John C. Dvorak]

No.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow.

[Adam Curry]

Because I said he was co sponsor to bill or some damn thing where.

[John C. Dvorak]

They called you up and said, don't do that, please, computer man.

[Adam Curry]

Well, it was the way it was framed. You have to read the whole column the way it was. I should try to find it and then put it on one of my columns. It's in the closet on substack. But it was framed in such a way that it made him look like an idiot.

[John C. Dvorak]

Is he still with us?

[Adam Curry]

So they didn't take. It was not. Not well received by the government.

[John C. Dvorak]

Is Leahy still around? Is he still with us?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I don't know. He was last. The last term. I don't know if he's still there. I mean, his voice. He lost his voice.

[John C. Dvorak]

So there was a, A little snafu. Snafu in. In the appointment of. In one of President Trump's appointees. Weldon. Weldon. Weldon. Dr. Weldon was supposed to become the director of the CDC and his nomination was pulled so. Because he apparently he didn't have the votes. This is Mary Holland from the Children. Children's Defense. Health Defense thing. That's the thing that Kennedy has nothing more to do with. And she explains what happened. He was too outspoken on vaccines is what it really looks like to me, which is, you know, vaccines are the magic sauce that keeps the chronic disease epidemic going. And I think David Weldon understood that perfectly.

[Adam Curry]

And my guess is there was some.

[John C. Dvorak]

Kind of an alliance between PhRMA and Senator Cassidy and some of his compatriots.

[Adam Curry]

In the Senate to kill the nomination.

[John C. Dvorak]

No real explanation at all why the Weldon nomination was pulled. But Senator Cassidy at the very beginning sort of talked about distrust in health agencies and the context of measles, which would seem to be a lot of what was going on. It was pretty clear that they didn't have the votes for Weldon on the HELP Committee. And, and I can tell you that I, and many people who were there and on text threads that were on are just tremendously disappointed. Weldon was perfectly credentialed, having been a member of Congress and a physician and a Republican to take that job. And he was outspoken about vaccines. He understands vaccines candidly better than any of the other key appointments that Bobby was proposing, according to. Is it Senator Ron Johnson? He's a senator, isn't he? Yeah, yeah. He thinks it had something to do with Big Pharma. Oh, no, you don't say. But again, the Fact that they were able to defeat the Weldon nomination, it's really tragedy because I spoke with the doctor. He's got a very open mind. He's certainly not anti vax. He vaccinates his patients. Okay. He just has some questions, like, you know, maybe just maybe 85 doses on the childhood schedule, you know, vaccines given in what, three, three to six different vaccines at the same time to very young infants whose immune systems are just developing. What's wrong with that? That might be a problem, but we can't even ask the question. So again, I give Donald Trump and Bobby Kennedy all the credit for taking really a giant leap forward in terms of addressing this problem, but also demonstrating how we're going to heal and unify this very divided nation. It seems to me like Dr. Weldon doesn't even know exactly what happened when.

[Adam Curry]

The White House pulled his nomination.

[John C. Dvorak]

He said sort of that Big Pharma may have had something to do with it.

[Adam Curry]

He said it's the concern of many.

[John C. Dvorak]

People is that Big Pharma quote was behind this, which is probably true in a statement today. Do you know if pressure from big.

[Adam Curry]

Pharma had anything to do with it? No, but I think you can pretty.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well assume that again, they couldn't get bought. They couldn't bring down Bobby Kennedy because what he was doing is so politically popular, completely nonpartisan fashion, so Republican senators couldn't vote, vote against him, you know, even those that might have wanted to. But, you know, pharma doesn't go quiet in the night. So they got their scalp. They got their scalp. Got it.

[Adam Curry]

Been a quid pro quo. It could have been something else. It could have been farming, not involved. We don't know. They're never gonna. We're never gonna find it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Got an update.

[Adam Curry]

Get another guy.

[John C. Dvorak]

I got an update from one of our producers. We had the best producers in the universe, of course, much better than those guys who produce. Scott, regarding your Covid insurance clip, and if I recall. Yeah, it'd be interesting if I recall, the life insurance company did not want to pay out because the person had taken this vaccine voluntarily, and therefore it was considered suicide. And we don't pay out on suicide. Am I. Am I more or less. More or less right?

[Adam Curry]

Close enough.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sir Nasty Nate here. I love our guys. I'm Life. And sir Nasty Nate, he's a life and health insurance agent. Agent. The company he works for is Banker's Life, Colonial Penn. Life Insurance, and he says the company has to pay out after two years of having the insurance for suicide so if you commit suicide, don't do it during the first two years of your policy. Your beneficiary won't get the benefit.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, that's interesting. I've never heard this.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I got more people saying that's bull crap. But this is actually.

[Adam Curry]

Well, no, it wouldn't be bull in the case of the CO shot. These people were dying within two years anyway.

[John C. Dvorak]

Exactly, exactly. Yeah, so.

[Adam Curry]

And it was claimed to be suicide.

[John C. Dvorak]

And that's interesting because I know someone who's, who lives in town whose husband committed suicide and she got an insurance payout. I was like, that's interesting. But it must have been after the two year period.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it sounds like it.

[John C. Dvorak]

And then bombshell bombshell, Bombshell intelligence bombshell. Everybody was just the hugest. Bombshell Bombshell, Bombshell, bombshell. That Covid was lab made. This is a Trump administration was given bombshell administration intelligence from an ally. Well, who was the ally? The ally was Germany. That's right. Germany gave us this bombshell information.

[Adam Curry]

Try to keep up, dudes. Well, on, on health.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

I got a couple of clips about seed oil.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's no good, I hear.

[Adam Curry]

Well, you know, this is the thing. It's, it's questionable whether it's good or not to me because I even, in fact I was reading about pumpkin seed oil which is good for prostate health, but it's a seed oil and indeed the real controversy is over the lineolic acids that are in seed oil and that there's. And you read, I'm telling you, you can do a research on this yourself. You can read about, about. Oh, good for the heart. Oh, bad for the heart. Yeah, good for the heart. Bad for the heart. Good for the heart. I mean this is one of these things that it's like, is there agreement on any of this stuff? But yeah, with your anti seed oil there's agreement. Yeah, it's bad for you, but if there's, if you're not, then it's great because it's low poly, it's a polyunsaturated, blah blah, blah. The whole thing is ridiculous. But, but there's a report on it I picked up and I thought it was at least educational. Steak N Shake says it has recently switched from frying with seed oil to beef tallow. It credits U.S. health Secretary Robert F.

[John C. Dvorak]

Kennedy Jr. For the change.

[Adam Curry]

He says using so called traditional ingredients will make America healthier. But as Sarah Bowden reports, traditional doesn't always mean nutritious.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wait a minute. So RFK Jr comes out and says these seed Oils will kill you. And then all of a sudden they're, there's a report about seed oil that it won't kill you. Oh, that's interesting. For decades, Americans have been warned against fast food. So it was striking to see the country's top public health officials sit down to a burger and fries On Fox News, Kennedy was joined by host Sean Hannity, who ordered a Coke. RFK wants more restaurants to follow Steak and Shake's lead and stop using seed oils, which he claims are fueling the obesity epidemic. We are poisoning ourselves, and it's coming from, you know, principally these ultra processed foods. But researchers say seed oils aren't the real problem. It's French fries, for God's sake. It's French fries. Oh, it's not the seed oils. It's the French fries that are killing you.

[Adam Curry]

So I now hearing that, I said, oh, this has got to. This is great. I mean, this guy has French fries. Just stop eating French fries. We'll all be fine.

[John C. Dvorak]

Christopher Gardner is a nutrition scientist at Stanford University. People should eat fewer french fries, whatever they're deep fried in. Which is why Gardner is concerned that Kennedy went to a fast food restaurant on national television. The secretary has a big platform, and fast food is high in saturated fat, which leads to more clogged arteries and heart attacks. And if people are eating more hamburgers and more french fries, even though they're now in tallow instead of sedum, more people are gonna die. We're all gonna die. Dr. Dariush Mozaffarian is a cardiologist at Chops University. He agrees with Kennedy that processed foods are driving up rates of heart disease, diabetes, and other chronic illnesses. Bud Mossafarian says the real villains are too many refined grains. Starches, sugars, an overload of salt and other preservatives, hundreds of chemical additives, contaminants from packaging. And while seed oils are found in processed foods, he says it's guilt by association.

[Adam Curry]

Seed oils are actually the bright spot. Seed oils are healthy fats, healthy monounsaturated, polyunsaturated fats that are really good for our bodies.

[John C. Dvorak]

Mossafarian is glad Kennedy's concerned about ultra processed foods. That's why he'd like the secretary to focus on helping low income Americans afford fresh groceries that are rich in fiber and nutrients. NPR reached out to Kennedy's team for comment, but did not hear back. We also reached out to Steak N Shake. It turns out its food manufacturers still use seed oil to prepare the food before it's frozen and shipped to stores. Oh, no, there goes. There goes my shake and bake snack or whatever that place is.

[Adam Curry]

This report is just the worst.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, Bobby came out. I call him Bobby now. Bobby came out. Bobby. He came out and he said, you know, grass. We're changing grass, which is the acronym generally regarded as safe, which initially was only for baking soda, I think, and, like, salt, maybe, and now it's just. It's just been used as everything. Oh, it's all generally regarded as safe. And he's going to change that. This is going to change the face of.

[Adam Curry]

Well, you know, I talked about this on the show years ago about the Merck index, which everyone should have a copy of.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, Mine is very, very outdated. I have one, but I think it's.

[Adam Curry]

They're all outdated. I don't think they brought this thing out for years. It doesn't matter because the information is generally not outdated. But grass is used effusively within the Merck index. Everything. You look it up. Grass, grass, grass. You see, it's G R A S, all caps. Is commonly used to describe various chemicals and poisons and other things.

[John C. Dvorak]

The mainstream media is generally regarded as us safe. But we're all gonna die. Yeah, it's crazy. I need to do a little bit on bird flu because I'm gonna end it up with McCullough. The latest from McCullough, which is interesting. But first we need to tug at the heartstrings because it's killing a kitten. A warning is going out about raw pet food now that new cases of bird flu are being reported in two New York City cats. And one of the pets, a little kitten, died from the infection. The virus has already spread like wildfire in chickens. The city is investigating the outbreak and warning pet owners to avoid using raw foods and milk. A vet says the sick kitten was fed savage cat food. The kitten had to be euthanized. So first they said the cat died, but then basically they killed the kitten. That's two different things. It's clearly shown that.

[Adam Curry]

Hold on a second. That is two different things. Things. They fed the cat some. This is bull.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. They fed the cat some raw cat food. And then.

[Adam Curry]

Which is what you do.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

If you can. If you can get raw food. I mean, Jay used to work at a raw pet food company in Oakland. Very cool operation. And it was all the hoity toities. And Piedmont and other areas around the Bay Area would use this kind of cat food because the cats love it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. So then the. The kitten got sick, and then they euthanized it. They chopped its head off. The kitten had to be euthanized and her head is gone. It's clearly shown that a raw chicken can, if it's infected with avian flu, which unfortunately it is, some of it is, can make cats very sick with avian flu. And here comes the brand Savage Cat. Brand Food issued a statement saying they are incredibly saddened to hear that that kitten has passed. They are working with the FDA and gathering information. Died, euthanized, has passed. Okay, but CBS is not letting up on the bird flu in cows. It's killing the cows. John lapook, the doctor comes in to help. Texas and New Mexico today reported 38 more measles cases. Oh no. Brings them nationwide total this year to more than 300, which is already more.

[Adam Curry]

Than the number for all of last year.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know why, I don't know why they have to start it off with measles. I'm sure that's some kind of neuro linguistic programming.

[Adam Curry]

Noticing this too, I pointed out some other clips. Usually NTD does a lot where they bring in one topic to get you kind of jacked up about something and then they, then they slide into the what they really want to talk about. And I find it's got to be NLP of some sort.

[John C. Dvorak]

Exactly what's happening here. DC also reports that in the past year there have been 70 cases of.

[Adam Curry]

Bird flu and one death on the farm.

[John C. Dvorak]

It has been devastating not only for poultry, but cows.

[Adam Curry]

Cows.

[John C. Dvorak]

Here's Dr. John LaPook. Hello. Dr. Tyler Ribeiro, a fourth generation dairy farmer woke up to a world turned upside down. I went to bed at 11 o'clock at night and by the morning we were in the middle of it. In just two weeks last September, bird flu ripped through the fourth generation farmer's herd of 1500 cows. Dozens died. They were sick, the ears were down, they weren't hungry. And I was up against a force that I really didn't know how to fight. By the way, I'm not so sure the cows died from the bird flu. They might have been sick. Most of the cows I've talked to the ranchers, yeah, they get bird flu. They get sick, they get better. I wonder if they were euthanized. California has more than 1100 dairy farms. Two thirds experienced an outbreak caused by a deadly virus that for the first time spread from poultry and wild birds to cows. Then from cow to cow. A leading suspect is contaminated milking machines. So a deadly virus for the first time we've heard about the sick cows from bird flu. For Months. Okay. So I don't know. It's all just.

[Adam Curry]

What's the milking machine doing?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, let's find out.

[Adam Curry]

I love these animals.

[John C. Dvorak]

Dr. Michael Payne is a veteran veterinarian at the University of California, Davis. The spillover of avian influenza bird flu into cattle has never occurred before. It's a new disease. While human infections are rare. 38 people in California, nearly all of them work with cattle, have been diagnosed with mild bird flu. But now a different strain that has caused more severe illness is circulating widely in North American wild, wild birds and spilling over into poultry. Some scientists have said to me they are very concerned that we're getting closer and closer to that virus mutating to a point where it could spread more easily from human to human.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Understandably, our public health colleagues are concerned additional mutations will occur in this version of the virus or other versions of.

[Adam Curry]

The virus that will allow it to.

[John C. Dvorak]

Be easily transmitted from one person to another. So I have bad news, doctor. Dr. McCullough was hanging out with Dale Big Tree, or as Tina calls him, Big Del Tree. I don't know why she does it. And, yeah, it turns out that this is actually happening. And surprise. It was created in a lab.

[Adam Curry]

Our research at McCullough Foundation. Nick Kolsher, the lead. This strain of bird flu is different.

[John C. Dvorak]

This looks like it has actually come.

[Adam Curry]

From serial passage research done at the USDA Poultry Research Laboratory in Athens, Georgia.

[John C. Dvorak]

Serial passage is when there's a blend.

[Adam Curry]

Of viral strains that's intentionally put in this case in a mallard duck.

[John C. Dvorak]

They were trying to see which strain would pass to the next mallard duck.

[Adam Curry]

And the mallard ducts are studied because their gullet is where the virus attaches.

[John C. Dvorak]

But it doesn't go into the lungs.

[Adam Curry]

And indeed, they found clade 23446 that looked like it transmitted.

[John C. Dvorak]

And sure enough, it, you know, that's.

[Adam Curry]

Where the first cases were around Athens, Georgia. Now, the unique aspect to this clade is that it was very mild in the Maillard ducks.

[John C. Dvorak]

They could spread it all over another migratory waterfowl.

[Adam Curry]

It quickly spread into mammals. We're now up to about 40 different species of mammals. And so what, you know, the USDA.

[John C. Dvorak]

And other public health officials have done.

[Adam Curry]

You know, over the last several decades, is what's called biosecurity. So biosecurity would be this idea that, well, if one chicken has bird flu, if we sterilize the whole farm, they.

[John C. Dvorak]

Won'T get it again. Again, these ghouls. These ghouls experimenting with nature, with God's creation. And it turns out that this is peer reviewed and it's real.

[Adam Curry]

You're essentially saying that this is a lab grown own clade, that this was something made in a lab, that it'sy. Are we talking about a lab leak.

[John C. Dvorak]

Again when we're talking about bird flu right now? We're so sure of it. We've published this in a peer reviewed paper titled the Proximal origins of Clade 23446 avian influenza. It was published in the peer reviewed journal Poultry and Wildlife Sciences and it hasn't been disputed by any of the public health officials.

[Adam Curry]

We cited the USDA research, research done.

[John C. Dvorak]

By Dr. Karakawa at University of Wisconsin School of Veterinary Medicine and Dr. Ron Fouche at Erasmus. So yeah, it looks like this mankind brought this on.

[Adam Curry]

Dow. Now, the twist that we've seen is.

[John C. Dvorak]

The major strain of this clade, the clade is the original source.

[Adam Curry]

The strain that was so mild, that was just causing pink eye in humans.

[John C. Dvorak]

In mild cases in animals was B 3.13.

[Adam Curry]

Now we've seen the emergence of D.

[John C. Dvorak]

1.1 and it's a totally different ball game. There is a teenager in British Columbia who gets D 1.1. She gets severe human bird flu, ends up on the ventilator, needs ECMO for life support. Thankfully, she survives.

[Adam Curry]

A man down in Louisiana gets it.

[John C. Dvorak]

He dies.

[Adam Curry]

He had some birds in his backyard.

[John C. Dvorak]

And now a toddler and Cambodia has died. It's a different form of what we call genetic reassortment. And del. What I've concluded is, you know, this culling has caused this outbreak to last.

[Adam Curry]

So long because of virgin flock after virgin flock. Now the virus has had enough opportunity.

[John C. Dvorak]

To reassort and mutate and I think.

[Adam Curry]

It'S taken a turn for the worse.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it's almost April. Time to flatten the curve. Curve? Yeah. Timing is perfect. It's unbelievable.

[Adam Curry]

Well, with the initial bird flu, when in some years back I noticed that there was a. The prophylactic was discussed and it turns out to be Relenza, which is the flu competitor.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, really? Really.

[Adam Curry]

Relenza is the Tamiflu. It's not cheap, by the way. It's a hundred bucks a prescription. I have a few I always keep backed up now.

[John C. Dvorak]

But you take it when you feel the onset or you take it?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it's just the same as Tamiflu, only you breathe it in. It's a powder.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh.

[Adam Curry]

And it takes a little getting used to.

[John C. Dvorak]

How to use it? Do you use it with a straw?

[Adam Curry]

No, you breathe it through your mouth. It's A funny device you have and you. It's got a little thing. You pop the capsule and it releases the powder and you breathe the powder in through into the lungs and that's how it works. It's very inconvenient to use and it's not very popular. But it's very effective. I think is slightly more effective than Tamiflu because Tamiflu is. When you take. Take it, it's a whole body phenomenon. Whereas the Relenza goes right to the lungs where, which is where the flu or any of these influenza type diseases, that's where they reproduce. It just goes right after them. It's a very good product.

[John C. Dvorak]

So we should all get some Relenza, that's what you're saying.

[Adam Curry]

I'm not a doctor.

[John C. Dvorak]

What am Ivermectin? Is that not going to help me?

[Adam Curry]

Probably not. Oh, it would help me get rid of worms.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hey. Final clip for me is yet more disappointment. Pam Bondi. Merle Haggard in a wig was on with the money. Honey. Maria Bartiromo. And of course the question came up about the.

[Adam Curry]

All the files.

[John C. Dvorak]

We were going to get all the information.

[Adam Curry]

Let me get. I heard this is good take on something else which a lot of people were emailing me about and talking to.

[John C. Dvorak]

Me about when they heard that you were coming on the show there. The MAGA group is mad that we.

[Adam Curry]

Don'T know more about the Epstein files.

[John C. Dvorak]

The MAGA Group is mad that they.

[Adam Curry]

Don'T know more about the January 6th investigation. Are you going to give us any.

[John C. Dvorak]

More information on these two issues? Sure. And first Epstein. I'm mad that I didn't have more information on Epstein. I was given 200 pages of documents. I've asked Director Patel. He came in after that. I had asked for those documents prior to Cash coming in. Cash is going to get me all the information.

[Adam Curry]

I have asked him to find out.

[John C. Dvorak]

Why I didn't receive all those documents and he didn't receive all those documents. We've now found out of course that.

[Adam Curry]

They were in New York.

[John C. Dvorak]

We've received truckload of documents of evidence and Cash is going to give me a deadline on when he can go through that to protect of course the victims of sex trafficking. Trafficking who are wrapped into this. And he's going to give me a deadline on when he can get this and we will get out as much as we can, as fast as we can to the American people because they deserve to know. Same with January 6th. We're all working on JFK right now. We will be working on Martin Luther King, all of these things that the President promised we will be doing. They can try to hide documents from. From us, but they can't. Might take a little longer. We will find them and we will release them to the American people. Because it's transparency. Weak. Very weak. You know what?

[Adam Curry]

I have to. I have to conclude the following, okay. With both the JFK and the Epstein stuff. It is so terrible what's in there that it would bring down the government and it would collapse the. It would collapse the United States.

[John C. Dvorak]

What could be so terrible after 60 years that it would collapse the United States?

[Adam Curry]

I don't know, but it's got to be something. It's got to be one of. And to use the profanity, it has to be an oh, shit kind of thing. When you look at the data and you go, oh, shit, you can't say you can't bring this out.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, well, then it may be they're right. Maybe it is Israel responsible for everything that could bring.

[Adam Curry]

Could be anything. It could be Great Britain, it could be France.

[John C. Dvorak]

That wouldn't. People that wouldn't bring down the government be like, are you stupid limeys? Are you frogs?

[Adam Curry]

No, I agree. It. Russia. I mean, it could be. I don't know. It's. I have no idea. I have no. It's just beyond my comprehension what it might be. I. You can't deconstruct it because there's not enough information. It could be that the. The entire US government's been run by the mafia for the last 40 years. We don't know that. That could be. That could bring. Could be a problem.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, this is not helping the situation, Pam.

[Adam Curry]

And then, of course, you had the guy who was. The guy was the head of the FBI in New York who quit. Is there something very suspicious about these Marines? He's another, I think, ex lieutenant colonel or colonel in the Marine Corps that became this head of the FBI in New York office. And I'm reminded of John Kelly, the Marine who was running the White House, had set poor Trump up with John Bolton and got rid of Steve Bannon. What is with the Marines? What are the Marines doing at this moment? I mean, why are they working against the President of the United States? What's going on?

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, the only thing that could really, really bring down the entire government is as if it turns out that they're all pedophiles. Like, the whole thing has been run by nut jobs.

[Adam Curry]

That could be.

[John C. Dvorak]

That. That could, that could really. Because then every, you know, then it would be like Everyone would be suspect and everyone have to. Everyone would go. No one would want to work there.

[Adam Curry]

I don't know. Whatever the case is, I don't see this stuff coming out because they're freaked. Somebody is freaked out because the Kennedy thing is way overdue. It's not even close. So what's the connection between Kennedy and Epstein? There has to be a connection because they won't release either of those two. They'll probably bring out the J6 invest, so who cares? You know, this other stuff that we don't care about will be released and they'll just sit on. They're just going to sit on it.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know what I think?

[Adam Curry]

Or if they bring it out, it's going to be so massaged that it'll. It'll be a phony, it'll be a fake.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think it's adrenochrome. Adrenochrome?

[Adam Curry]

Could be. I'm going to show my support by donating to no Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah, that'd be fabulous. Well, the one thing you know for sure is your favorite podcasters are not on the adrenochrome because we're boomers. Otherwise we'd be looking young and svelte and we'd be just fantastic. But no, no, no adrenochrome for us. Instead we have producers who we're going to thank $50 and above. We have John's tip of the day coming up. We got end of show mixes. There's all. There's all kinds of stuff happening. A lot of good meetups and meetup report. But right now, John, take us through the 50s, if you will, please.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. And we're going to start off with. We have. I can't pronounce his name as Irish. Glasgow.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let me give it a try.

[Adam Curry]

Or Scottish Charian. Cherry and Dougherty.

[John C. Dvorak]

Cherion. Yeah, I'd say Cherry and Dougherty. Kiarian. Karen. Maybe it's Karen. Kieran.

[Adam Curry]

Could be Karen.

[John C. Dvorak]

Karen. Could be Karen. Karen.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, could be Karen Dougherty. But he's in Glasgow. He. She's in Glasgow. 185.88 with a yearly bonus. Di. Yearly donation.

[John C. Dvorak]

Thank you.

[Adam Curry]

So that's nice. We don't hear enough from our UK folk.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, but they're all afraid to donate.

[Adam Curry]

I'm surprised that. Yeah, he'll be able to knock on the door in a minute, you know.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hello. Open up.

[Adam Curry]

Sean Homan in Noblesville, Indiana. 14848. Martha Sharp in Lexington, South Carolina. 12345 Van Neumann in Newman.

[John C. Dvorak]

Newman.

[Adam Curry]

Newman in Bernalito. Bernalito. Bernatillo. Bernatillo. Bernatillo, New Mexico. 10535. Sorrel. Which is a vegetable. Sorrel Cooper in China, Michigan. Made in China.

[John C. Dvorak]

Michigan.

[Adam Curry]

Could have a double meaning. 101 14. And he's got a happy birthday out to her husband. Sir John of the St. Clair Lowlands. They're going to move to Arizona. Sorrel. Interesting name for a woman. Thomas Burns, 10101. Lucas Williams in Roswell, New Mexico. 100. Sir Mike, 44 in Bethalto. These places. Illinois. 100. You want some yak karma? If you give him that. Give you a Bellamy salute. He says, whatever that is.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know if I want. I don't. I don't.

[Adam Curry]

Dame Elevation in Colorado Springs, Colorado. Came in with 100. Sir Sterling in Boise, 81 95. Oh, he's sent in the JCD. He's the one that sent in the red hoodie houses. I also got a couple some other people to thank, which I'll do in the next show. Ohio Staters, who sent more hoodies in. I got a lot of hoodies now. I also got a note from somebody telling me to be careful if I wear the Ohio State hoodie because I'll be swamped with Ohio State nut balls. Aren't we the best? Curtis Cool in East Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania. 80 17. Which is Irish boobs are smiling.

[John C. Dvorak]

The Irish boobs.

[Adam Curry]

It's a birthday for him. Kevin McLaughlin Conquer North Carolina, 8. He's the Archduke alone. A lover of America. Lover of boobs. Dame Ruby Rita, our friend in Sparks, Nevada. A 76. She says we're doing a great job and she loves our style. She never writes a note. Jackie horn in Plainfield, Indiana. 67.

[John C. Dvorak]

For another Hunka Hunk of burning love. John. All right.

[Adam Curry]

Birthday. David Hall, 6331. Peter Whole Rigal, Austria. An Austrian. Good.

[John C. Dvorak]

And he's never been deduced. He says, you've been deduced, you're deduced now.

[Adam Curry]

He came in with 7263 and he says he just found new work. You helped me through that hard time. Well, that's what we're here for. Elliot Lang, 6006. Sabod Peth in May, Metairie, Louisiana. 5809. This is his Blofeld donation. 5809. Everybody's coming in with Blofeld donations of 5000, 809. James Edmondson in South Plainfield, New Jersey. 5510 Sir Luke Rayner in London, UK 5510 Karma for all. We'll give some karma at the end. Michael Eager In North Bethesda, Maryland, Maryland 5276 this is Mike from the Outer Swamp Meetup. Reminder. Kevin Dill's in Huntersville, North Carolina. 50. Oh, the rest of these are 50s. And here we go. Kevin. Diane Schwanebeck in Johnsburg, Illinois. Greg Mackey in Medford, Oregon. Philip Blue in Louisville, Kentucky. Yeah. Easy Landscapes in North Stonington, Connecticut for you people who need landscaping. Chris Lewinsky in Sherwood Park, Alberta, a citizen in Bensonville, Illinois. And last on the list, Sir Jerry Wingenroth, our pal there, regular contributor from Saugus, California.

[John C. Dvorak]

Ah, wonderful. Thank you all so much. No one under 50 mentioned because it's all for reasons of anonymity, but we do again want to thank our executive and associate associate executive producers for helping us out. What are you drinking?

[Adam Curry]

Just Polar Seltzer.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay. And you can set up a recurring donation. Please consider doing [e-mail] check if you had one because it may have been expired. It does happen around this time of year. Noagendadonations.com Any amount, any frequency. Jobs, karma with the yeah, jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.

[Adam Curry]

Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's right. Noagendadonations.com donate today Jackie Horn wishes her a hunk of hunk of burning love. John a happy birthday. He turned 67 on March 4. Sir face tension. Happy birthday to his late mom, Ann Steadman. She would have celebrated on the first 14th. That is a. What do you call that? I forgot the term he used.

[Adam Curry]

I have to remember that march.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sir M. And Dame Dre. I wish their son Hambone a happy birthday. He celebrated I celebrates today. 15 years old today. Sir Proteus, happy birthday to his wife Avis celebrates today. Curtis Cool celebrates his birthday tomorrow. Savannah Schoenacker, which is her amazing boyfriend, George Hernandez. Or maybe it's Jorge, a happy one turning 28 on March 21st. And Sorrel Cooper, happy birthday to her husband, Sir John of the St. Clair Lowlands. And we wish all of these people a very happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. And now we're going to start with our Commodores before we get to our Knights and then we have an upgrade. So we'd like to welcome the following people to the podium. Commodore Sir Baron Mike of Clark County, Nevada, Slayer of taxes and Commodore Aaron. Both of you will be receiving that Wonderful certificate. Go to noagendaring.com give us the address and we say, commodores arriving. Whoo. We have a layaway night from Michael Sikora, who says, I'm writing to claim my knighthood. It was a layaway. It happens. People do this months and months, sometimes years, but you can get there. Henceforth, I'd like to to be known as Sir Mumbly Peg. Sir Mumbly Peg. My mother, Linda Sikora, told me about the game of Mumbly Peg last summer, and I knew immediately I needed to make that my my night name. Mumbly Peg was born long before the Internet, when kids had nothing better to do than throw knives at their feet. John, can you explain the game of Mumbly Peg?

[Adam Curry]

I always thought it was done with the hands where you had you put them. Yeah, but not knife going back and forth. But I think maybe it was before my time actually, to be honest, which is a long time. So I don't think anyone living today knows ever played this game.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, people who played it may not be living anymore because they also threw.

[Adam Curry]

Knives at somebody's feet. They had to duck or something. I'm not sure.

[John C. Dvorak]

Not a great idea. No Agenda is truly the best podcast in the universe. I enjoy listening with my human resource future Ms. Little Ms. Mumbly Peg for all of you. And get One Nation Knighthood is easily achievable with sustainable donations. Set it and forget it, but remember to keep them running. And for the roundtable, he would like some cade frietia y frate lugana Italian wine. I don't know what that is. With pan fried walleye and venison pork tacos. Okay, Michael, you will. You're about to be knighted right now. In fact, I'm going to grab the blade. We have three knights in one dame John, you got it right here. Very nice. Okay, Avis, step on up. Michael Sikora, step on up. As well as Ray Samori and Mike Keeler. All four of you about to enter that exclusive club, the no agenda Knights and dames. I'm hereby happy to pronounce the Kate the as Dame Avis, hugger of hounds, Sir Mumbly Peg, Sir Woody the Phantom and Sir Mike. For you we've got hookers and blow rent boys and chardonnay. But also we have window Jane, 15 year old wind whiskey and home baked nestle chocolate chip cookies. Cade fratti Fratti Laguna Italian wine with pan fried walleye and venison pork tacos and some Pat's blue ribbon for the trolls. Along with that, we got Some ginger and gerbils, sparkling cider, Nescor, Spock and some bourbon. And as always, the mutton and meat. All four of you head over to Noah jennerrings.com you can line up behind the Commodores. And that means that all you have to do is give us your ring size. It's not that hard. There's a ring sizing guide on the website and send us an address. And you will get that handsome knight or dame ring along with a certificate of authenticity and some wax to seal your important correspondence because it is a signet ring. And now we've got some title changes. So we have that upgrade we talked about earlier. Sir Mike. Sir Commodore Baron Mike of Clark County County, Nevada, Slayer of taxes. Sir Scobie will become Sir Scobie, Archduke of the Piedmont. And Sir Dr. Sharkey becomes Duke. Sir Dr. Dr. Sharkey. And he claimed Mars. So he will become the Lord of Mars. Wow, that's amazing. Thank you all very much for your additional $1,000 support of the best podcast in the universe. Yeah, the no agenda meetups. They are producer organized. You can find an entire [e-mail]. this is where you get the connection that gives you protection. The people you meet there are the people you who will be the first responders in an emergency. I know because they all responded and checked on me when the fire was raging here. Here's an example of a meetup. This is a meetup report. This is the Sno Homo one ball meetup. Oh yeah.

[Adam Curry]

In the morning, ladies and germs. This is Jorge reaching out from the Snohomish area here.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hanging out with a group of fine people.

[Adam Curry]

I'm gonna pass the phone around.

[John C. Dvorak]

I've got one ball.

[Adam Curry]

Just thought I'd mention that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sorry. Alright, moving on in the morning. This is Savannah. Happy to be here.

[Adam Curry]

We're at the recovery center for the whiplash. The ball is in your court, John. This is sir Jack Ashe recovering from what apparently was genetically previous Zo's engineered virus. Saskatchewan, I can't speak but we're here at beautiful snow hole Mission Sound of summit brew. And we're all wondering why bigmic2028.com redirects to Infowars store.com.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right, that's all. Take care, Alex. Got it. There you go. No wonder we missed out on it. There's no meetups today but there is one coming up on Tuesday. The North Idaho Sanity Brigade Meet the March meetup 5:00 at Trails and Bridge Brewery and Brick Oven Pizza in Coeur d'alene, Idaho. And then our next show day, Thursday, Central Wisconsin Wowsaw. 3:33pm Scones in Schofield, Wisconsin. And you can go to Tucson, Arizona for the. It's cold, it's hot. Tucson meetup, 4 o'clock at Canyons Crown. Also on Thursday, the Denver Spring Equinox meetup, 6:30 at Lincoln's Roadhouse in Denver, Colorado. Man, they got a lot of meetups going on there. And Charlotte's thirsty third Thursday at happens every third Thursday of the month at 7:00. Ed's Tavern in Charlotte, North Carolina. Many more to be found, including Osaka, Japan, if you happen to be there. Cullenborg in Gelderland, the Netherlands. A lot more in the United States. And there's even one in Oakland on your birthday, John, April 5th. I'm figuring maybe you should go check it out. You might get some gifts, you might get some presents.

[Adam Curry]

I might get some presents.

[John C. Dvorak]

You might give it a shot.

[Adam Curry]

Ohio State hoodies.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, you need more. More of those. More hoodies for John from Ohio State. Oh, yes.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, Ohio State definitely beat Michigan when it came to the hoodies.

[John C. Dvorak]

So go to no agendameetups.com to see the entire list as a calendar. You can look them up, you can search them. You can, I think they even have a meetup reports and you can file one after you've done your meetup. You can find it near you. Wait a minute, it's not near you. Oh, why don't you start one yourself? It's really easy to do no agendameetups.com sometimes you want.

[Adam Curry]

To be where everybody feels the same. It's like a party.

[John C. Dvorak]

So now we have somewhat of a conundrum. The conundrum being, I don't believe for a second you stop using 11 Labs AI to create your end of show ISOs.

[Adam Curry]

No, now it's obvious.

[John C. Dvorak]

So I'll just, I'll bring the real ones, you bring the fake.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yo, you're not going to go? You're not going to cheat?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I'm. No, I'm not a cheater. I'm a lover, not a cheater. I don't do these things.

[Adam Curry]

No lover, not a cheater. That doesn't make any sense.

[John C. Dvorak]

But okay, here's my ISO. At the end of these four years, how do you see our relationship? Cheater. All right, let's just go with yours. You know that you're going to win. The game is not even fun anymore.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I'll tell you this. It's. It will the gate The. That part, you're probably right. But you could go there and try to compete with these. I got. I. I've got. I got four here.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

You made them as an apology.

[John C. Dvorak]

You made one of them.

[Adam Curry]

One of them is an apology. I use Jessica the whole time. But let's play this one that I so love.

[John C. Dvorak]

I love these two games, guys. And Adam is so handsome, huh?

[Adam Curry]

That's my apology.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. No, you're gonna have to work a lot harder than that, son. A lot harder.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, well, there we go. The ones that have been possible here. Just start with great show.

[John C. Dvorak]

How was that for a great show?

[Adam Curry]

This is the way she cracks her voice at the end. This is unbelievable. Yes, we have. What's the hour?

[John C. Dvorak]

I guess I love these two guys. Do another hour. Oh, God. Now it just becomes sickening. I'm sick to my stomach.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I stayed with the same voice.

[John C. Dvorak]

You make me nauseous.

[Adam Curry]

Got a sickening voice.

[John C. Dvorak]

You make me nauseous.

[Adam Curry]

Over and by.

[John C. Dvorak]

No agenda is over today. Bye. Bye. See, now they just suck. They just know Good.

[Adam Curry]

They're all great.

[John C. Dvorak]

They're no good. Well, I'm not going to tell you which one I'm going to use. I'm just going to grab one at random because they're all fake, phony, fake news. And now it's time for the one and only real news of John's tip of the day and sometimes Adam, created by Dana Burnetti.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, so this is a top rated. This is a cleaning product. This is going back because Mimi came up with this one. She's irked that she never knew about it before. Up in Port Angeles, we have hard water. And anyone who has hard water knows that toilet bowl cleaning is, like, impossible.

[John C. Dvorak]

Don't you have a salt dispenser like one of those? We have this here in Texas.

[Adam Curry]

It's hard water. We don't have a water softener, if that's what you're talking about.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. And we call it the salt. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And so cleaning certain things is difficult. But if you can imagine a product that's the number one top rated. 70,000 reviews on Amazon. 70,000 reviews on Amazon. All five stars.

[John C. Dvorak]

All AI and phony.

[Adam Curry]

No, she says this stuff's unbelievable. Of course it should be, because it's hypochloric acid. It's very dangerous. But it's a hell of a cleaner.

[John C. Dvorak]

So can you clean your coffee pot with it? Will that help?

[Adam Curry]

If you wash it out thoroughly, probably no problem. But toilet bowl cleaner from Lysol, it's a Lysol product. Lysol toilet bowl cleaner. Maximum strength bathroom cleaning. It's $3 and something. It's dirt ch. Cheap.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow.

[Adam Curry]

And it's got nothing but fabulous reviews. This is the product to get for cleaning toilet bowls in especially. Most of the country's got hard water and this is the stuff you want.

[John C. Dvorak]

Here in Texas, we just use dawn soap for everything, John. We use dawn soap. We kill.

[Adam Curry]

Using a lot of dawn soap.

[John C. Dvorak]

We kill our wasp with it. We kill our red ants with it. And. And we deter the illegal aliens with it. We don't need no fancy baloney. 70,000 review stuff here in Texas. We had a fire. We put it out with dawn soap.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, well, that's probably does work in Texas. But anyway, there's Lysol toilet bowl cleaner.

[John C. Dvorak]

Lysol toilet bowl cleaner, ladies and gentlemen. Can we get any higher than that? Oh, we're so high, bro. Go to tipoftheday.net to find all of John's tips of the day. And sometimes Adam, created by Dana Bernetti. The show is in the toilet. Oh, yeah, I'm full of them. I don't know. I'm. I'm still bummed about these fake ISOs. It kind of ruins the game. I'm not feeling. Feeling good about it. John, you shouldn't feel good about it either.

[Adam Curry]

I feel great about it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, typical. Hey, coming up next on noagendastream.com trollroom ao or if you're listening on one of those modern podcast apps we've got, everything's an argument. This is the ISMS episode. This is Midas and his daughter Layla and. And they argue, which is kind of fun to listen to. They are. And they're podcasting 2.0 compatible all the way. So boost them. Boost them big. Also, end of show mix is from Jesse Coy Nelson, Professor Jay Jones, and David Kechter with a live drum of aluminium, which we forgot to talk about. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas hill country right here in somewhat scorched Fredericksburg in the morning, everybody.

[Adam Curry]

I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley. Is it supposed to rain? I. I can't tell. I'm John C. Duborak.

[John C. Dvorak]

We'll be back on Thursday with more media deconstruction just for you. Tune in and fix your amygdala. We're happy to help and remember [e-mail] until Thursday. Adios, mo foes a hui hooey. And such generals gathered in their masses. This is a memo that describes how.

[Adam Curry]

We'Re to take out seven countries in.

[John C. Dvorak]

Five years just like witches at black masses.

[Adam Curry]

When I first came to office, one of the first meetings I had was at the Pentagon with generals evil minds at plot destruction. Bolton has always said, let's go to war, but he's not the one who's going to go on the forefront.

[John C. Dvorak]

He's a coward, the sorcerer of death construction. The leaders of Iran are racketeers.

[Adam Curry]

Behind every problem is Iran.

[John C. Dvorak]

They heard what you said in 2016 and liked it when you said no more stupid wars.

[Adam Curry]

You got a rogue president in the.

[John C. Dvorak]

White House surrounded by these uber hawks.

[Adam Curry]

That thirst for another war with Iran. We don't need.

[John C. Dvorak]

International Atomic Energy Agency has never found Iran in contravention of stipulations in the deal.

[Adam Curry]

If Iran wants to fight, that will be the official end of Iran. Never threaten the United States again. I'm not somebody that wants to go.

[John C. Dvorak]

Into war in the United States heading towards another Middle east showdown, this time with Iran.

[Adam Curry]

So you can go die, let's have a war.

[John C. Dvorak]

And he says, the ball, the ball is in Putin's court.

[Adam Curry]

But what does ball in court mean?

[John C. Dvorak]

You can't be serious, man.

[Adam Curry]

There is no such thing as a ball in a court.

[John C. Dvorak]

It means the responsibility is now yours. You can't be serious, man. Origin and meaning really became popular in the 1970s, around the time that Billie Jean came here.

[Adam Curry]

And I asked Billy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Jean, you can't be serious, man.

[Adam Curry]

Get the ball out of here. Phrases always bug me. And I asked Billie Jean.

[John C. Dvorak]

The European security order is being shaken and so many of our illusions are being shattered. After the end of the Cold War.

[Adam Curry]

Some believed that Russia could be integrated.

[John C. Dvorak]

In Europe's economic and security architecture. In danger escalation in President Trump's trade war. The President now firing back at the retaliation Europe took yesterday. Here is what he just posted. Quote the European Union has just put a nasty 50% tariff on whiskey. If this tariff is not removed immediately, the US will shortly place a 200% tariff on all wine, champagne and alcoholic products coming out of France and other EU represented countries. I need an opinion on this. Is it aluminium? Is it aluminum or is it aluminum?

[Adam Curry]

What is aluminum? But the British love calling it aluminum.

[John C. Dvorak]

Why? Why?

[Adam Curry]

The best podcast in the universe.

[John C. Dvorak]

Adios mofo. Dvorak.org Na I love these two guys and Adam is so handsome.