1765 - "Pro-Mortalist"

Summary

Podcast Summary: No Agenda Show, Episode 1765 - "Pro-Mortalist"

Release Date: May 18, 2025

Hosts: Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak

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Introduction

In Episode 1765 of the No Agenda Show, titled "Pro-Mortalist," hosts Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak delve deep into current events with their characteristic media deconstruction approach. Broadcasting live from the Texas Hill Country, the duo navigates through a series of pressing issues, offering insights and critiques on media narratives, political tensions, and societal trends.

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Main Story: Palm Springs Fertility Clinic Bombing

Incident Overview

The episode centers around a tragic event: an explosive attack near a reproductive clinic in Palm Springs, California. Initial reports labeled the incident as an act of terrorism, citing motives tied to anti-reproductive sentiments and targeting the LGBTQ community.

• John C. Dvorak (00:03): "Counting 8,647 days since 9/11. And broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill country..."

• Adam Curry (02:43): Introduces the story of the Palm Springs IVF bombing, initially playing a news clip highlighting the FBI's stance on the incident.

Challenging Media Narratives

Adam and John challenge the prevailing media narrative that swiftly attributed the bombing to extremist anti-IVF and anti-LGBTQ ideologies, pointing out discrepancies and unverified claims.

• John C. Dvorak (06:02): "Historically faced a level of backlash... it's got to be some nut job terror because he hates IVF... It sounds like the opposite to me."

• Adam Curry (09:45): Reveals new information identifying the suspect as Edward Bart Cus., a self-described "pro-mortalist," whose motives diverge from the initial media portrayal.

Exploring the 'Pro-Mortalist' Motive

The term "pro-mortalist" emerges as a focal point, describing individuals who harbor resentment about their existence and advocate for reducing the planet's population.

• Adam Curry (10:17): "Pro mortalist, who was angry because he felt... nobody gave his consent to bring him into the world."

Additional Violent Incidents

The conversation extends to other tragic events, such as Sophie Tinney's coerced death, highlighting a disturbing trend of self-harm influenced by external pressures.

• Adam Curry (12:12): "She's sleeping there, his girlfriend... she convinced her boyfriend to shoot her in the head while she slept."

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Media Critique and Information Suppression

Suppression of Alternative Narratives

The hosts criticize mainstream media's tendency to suppress narratives that don't align with dominant political or corporate interests, particularly those suggesting alternative motives behind violent acts.

• John C. Dvorak (14:36): "Southern Baptist Church. It is never going to get reported."

• Adam Curry (14:46): "They don't need another nihilist movement by a bunch of stoned, drugged up Gen Z lunatics."

Impact of Pharmaceutical and Media Interests

Adam and John posit that pharmaceutical companies and media conglomerates manipulate narratives to maintain control, often sidelining stories that could tarnish their interests.

• Adam Curry (16:25): "The pharma companies own the media. It is never going to get reported."

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International Politics: Russia-Ukraine Tensions and Trump-Putin Negotiations

Stalled Peace Talks

The episode transitions to the ongoing Russia-Ukraine conflict, discussing the stalled peace talks and the roles of major players like former President Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin.

• John C. Dvorak (24:36): "Putin is negotiating from a position of strength... they're showing strength by playing around with who they send."

Potential Outcomes and Negotiation Strategies

The hosts analyze Trump's negotiation tactics, suggesting that direct communication with Putin is pivotal in reaching any semblance of peace, though skeptical about the willingness of both parties to compromise.

• John C. Dvorak (30:02): "Trump is trying to figure where that line is... this is part of an endgame scenario."

Media Representation of Negotiations

They critique media representations of the negotiations, arguing that mainstream outlets fail to capture the complexities and realpolitik involved, often simplifying or misrepresenting the stakes.

• John C. Dvorak (35:26): "An attempt to secure US Interest is to stand up for Democracies... is appeasement."

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Cultural Commentary: Eurovision Song Contest 2025

Austria's Victory Amidst Political Tensions

The episode highlights Austria's JJ winning the Eurovision Song Contest with "Wasted Love," noting the absence of expected frontrunners and speculating on underlying political influences.

• John C. Dvorak (16:41): "Austria's third win... with his operatic pop song... you can tell he's in."

Possible Political Undertones

Speculation arises about Austria's win being politically motivated, reflecting broader geopolitical sentiments and alliances within Europe.

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Health and Society: Early Onset Cancers and Stroke Awareness

Rise in Early Onset Cancers

The hosts discuss alarming statistics from the National Cancer Institute showing a rise in cancer diagnoses among younger Americans, particularly women, and critique mainstream media's handling of such health crises.

• John C. Dvorak (102:03): "We've never seen such a dramatic change age and the number of people being diagnosed with cancer ever before."

Public Health Alerts and Misinformation

Adam and John emphasize the need for public awareness of early signs of cancer and critique how media often withholds or misrepresents critical health information.

• John C. Dvorak (104:10): "Women out there start their mammograms at age 40 and go every year... thermal imaging over mammography."

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Climate Change and Environmental Concerns

Debate Over Global Warming

A brief segment touches on fluctuating weather patterns in Texas, with John's skeptical stance on attributing specific events directly to global warming, contrasting with mainstream environmental narratives.

• John C. Dvorak (86:33): "Texas is not strangers to heat... people's bodies haven't done that yet."

Media Representation of Climate Issues

The hosts argue that media outlets exaggerate or misreport climate-related issues, pushing agendas that align with corporate and political interests.

• Adam Curry (89:12): "These are the crappy mainstream media techniques... supposed to left everyone to think climate change is a punchline."

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Community Engagement: Meetups and Donations

Support and Value Exchange

Adam and John discuss their community meetups, emphasizing the importance of value-for-value exchanges, where supporters donate in return for content and engagement, fostering a tightly-knit listener base.

• John C. Dvorak (175:49): "Thank you all very much for supporting the show... people who support us financially is the whole point."

Recognition of Contributors

They highlight various contributors and donors, showcasing the diversity and dedication of their listener community, reinforcing the show's grassroots support model.

• John C. Dvorak (181:44): "Thank you all very much... We're grateful to our artists and donors."

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Conclusion

In Episode 1765, the No Agenda Show offers a comprehensive critique of mainstream media narratives, political maneuvers, and societal issues, urging listeners to question and seek deeper truths behind reported events. Through their analysis of the Palm Springs bombing, Russia-Ukraine tensions, health crises, and more, Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak reinforce the importance of independent thought and community-driven support in navigating today's complex information landscape.

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Notable Quotes:

• Adam Curry (10:17): "Pro mortalist, who was angry because he felt... nobody gave his consent to bring him into the world."

• John C. Dvorak (14:36): "Southern Baptist Church. It is never going to get reported."

• Adam Curry (16:25): "The pharma companies own the media. It is never going to get reported."

• John C. Dvorak (102:03): "We've never seen such a dramatic change age and the number of people being diagnosed with cancer ever before."

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Listeners seeking alternative perspectives on media narratives and political developments will find Episode 1765 of the No Agenda Show both insightful and thought-provoking.

Transcript

[Adam Curry]

I'm your lackey from Russia, Adam Curry.

[John C. Dvorak]

Chauncey dvorak. It's Sunday, May 18, 2025. This is your award winning Gibbonation Media Assassination Episode 1765.

[Adam Curry]

This is no Agenda.

[John C. Dvorak]

Counting 8,647 days since 9 11. And broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill country here in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody.

[Adam Curry]

I'm Adam Curry Dan from northern Silicon Valley, where we're wondering why anyone would name their kid Kier. I'm John C. Dvorak.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's Craig. Wow, nice modulation.

[Adam Curry]

As in Kier Starmer?

[John C. Dvorak]

That is a good question. It's not a great question, but it's a good question. Why would you name your kid Kir? My kid's name is Kir.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I looked it up. Kir means little dark one.

[John C. Dvorak]

No.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow. Well, you know, who would name their kids.

[Adam Curry]

I think it also means thistle or. Or brush or something like that.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I'm sticking with definition number one, because the only.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, no, definitely. That is definition number one. Little dark one.

[John C. Dvorak]

The only person.

[Adam Curry]

It's Gaelic, by the way.

[John C. Dvorak]

The only person who would name their kid here little dark one would be Satan. Hello, Dana Carvey. Can't help myself. Can't help myself. So I'm looking at the quad box. Looking at the quad box, and I didn't have what?

[Adam Curry]

Well, which brings me to the story I'd like to introduce, because. The quad box.

[John C. Dvorak]

But when I. Okay, can I talk about what's on the quad box? Then you can introduce the story of the quad box.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I know what's on the quad box, but go ahead.

[John C. Dvorak]

What's on the quad box?

[Adam Curry]

Well, the same five stories that's on all the quads.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, there's only four. There's not five in the quad. That would be a quint box. It's a quad box. The story is the guy who blew up the fertility clinic in Palm Springs. By the way, I've not heard from the anonymous gay accountant who I did text this morning because he lives there.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I'm glad you. It's the story. Exactly the story I wanted to talk about because I have some input.

[John C. Dvorak]

Can I play the. The presumptive news reports about it first?

[Adam Curry]

Well, wait, because you have the latest one.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, no, I don't. I don't have the latest. I have yester. But it's okay. We'll do yours.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, I have yesterday's too.

[John C. Dvorak]

You really want. No, you really want to talk. So please, you do It.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I do want to talk. I want to talk.

[John C. Dvorak]

You do? You talk?

[Adam Curry]

Try SoCal. If this is the boringest one, yours will be better than this.

[John C. Dvorak]

Maybe.

[Adam Curry]

SoCal. IVF bombing. NPR.

[John C. Dvorak]

The FBI says an explosion this morning near a reproductive clinic in Palm Springs was deliberate.

[Adam Curry]

This was an intentional act of terrorism.

[John C. Dvorak]

As our investigation will unfold, we will determine if it's an international terrorism or domestic terrorism. That's Akil Davis, the assistant director of the FBI's Los Angeles Field office. He says one person died and they're working to identify them. Several others were injured. Davis also says the FBI has a person of interest but that they aren't actively searching for a suspect. He says it's one of the largest bombings in Southern California. The explosion damaged several buildings and left blocks littered with debris. Palm Springs Police Chief Andy Mills says they're dealing with a massive crime scene. A doctor at the clinic, Maher Abdallah, says the building is damaged, but the IVF lab eggs and embryos are okay. The FBI and ATF are joining local police in investigating this bombing. There's no word on a motive. Well, I have the clip with a motive I thought you had. That was. That was the whole beauty of this whole setup that I was doing that you interrupted.

[Adam Curry]

No, that's why I started with the lousy clip I said was not as going to be as good as yours if you hadn't noticed, I.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I noticed your clip was lousy. Yeah, totally. Okay. Can I play mine or do you have something you'd like to introduce?

[Adam Curry]

No, I have. My stuff is all to be read.

[John C. Dvorak]

The unthinkable happened in the desert resort.

[Adam Curry]

No way. Just stop a second.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, that was the NAT bomb.

[Adam Curry]

This clip is already a fake clip. Cuz nobody had a recording of the bomb.

[John C. Dvorak]

They. That totally. They made a NAT pop right up front. It's awesome. These people are so bad. The unthinkable happened in the desert resort known as Palm Springs. A massive bomb blast set off in.

[Adam Curry]

Or near a car.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's not really called Palm Springs, it's just known as.

[Adam Curry]

Known as our. Where did this clip come from?

[John C. Dvorak]

I think this is.

[Adam Curry]

Sounds like NBC.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I think it's local. Local maybe. I think it's KTLA actually. So it's a Los Angeles clip. Massive bomb blast set off in or near a car killed one person and injured several others in what the FBI calls an act of terrorism. They say the target was a fertility clinic and in vitro fertilization lab which involves fertilizing eggs with sperm outside the body. Federal agents are now trying to determine who did this and why.

[Adam Curry]

If you look at terrorist movements, terrorist groups, violent extremist groups in the past, even violent extremist individuals in the past, often they will have a list of targets.

[John C. Dvorak]

Kemper is a retired Marine Corps intelligence officer who has worked with and trained law enforcement personnel in the Palm Springs area. There's a variety of things that don't.

[Adam Curry]

Necessarily make the news, but there's a variety of threats and other things that.

[John C. Dvorak]

They work on out there. So, oh, yeah, yeah, I'm in the know. They'll be.

[Adam Curry]

They'll be looking at a broad array burning questions. Was the person killed in the blast.

[John C. Dvorak]

Also the one who triggered it?

[Adam Curry]

Was this domestic or international terrorism?

[John C. Dvorak]

Was the perpetrator attempting to record or live stream the carnage? We know this. The clinic's mission is to help build families, and those families include members of the LGBTQ community, a group that has.

[Adam Curry]

Historically faced a level of backlash. There are violent extremists out there who.

[John C. Dvorak]

Have very strong views about ivf, which.

[Adam Curry]

Is something that they do at that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Clinic, and also about surrogacy, which is.

[Adam Curry]

Something they do at that clinic.

[John C. Dvorak]

And that particular reproductive clinic is in the Palm Springs area. Palm Springs is kind of known as a. As a center for LGBTQ residents. I think a little less than half the population by some estimates is lgbtq. So all the news reports, well, no, this has got to be yours. Must be a crazy Republican. It's got to be some nut job terror because he hates IVF. Christian nationalist. Turns out some 26 year old soy looking boy who, who says he's anti life, he wants less people on the planet. Sounds like the opposite to me. So they immediately jumped the conclusions on this one.

[Adam Curry]

It's even worse than that. If you go to the New York Times and some of the other papers that blame the Southern Baptists.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is great. I have a. Jonathan Karl, ABC let's see what Jonathan Karl says. We begin with what authorities are calling an intentional act of terrorism. ABC's chief I just love that they knew that right off the bat that was an intentional act of terrorism. There was. They didn't have anything yet on this person, as far as I know, but they came out right away. Terrorism investigative correspondent Aaron Katerski has the.

[Adam Curry]

Very latest on an explosion Saturday outside.

[John C. Dvorak]

A fertility clinic in Palm Springs, California. Good morning, Aaron.

[Adam Curry]

What do we know?

[John C. Dvorak]

What do we know? What are you learning?

[Adam Curry]

John, good morning to you.

[John C. Dvorak]

This blast was so powerful that at.

[Adam Curry]

First people in Palm Springs thought this might have been an earthquake. But then they quickly saw the flames and smoke and damage from what appears to have been a car bomb. It exploded right outside a fertility clinic. American Reproductive Centers, which said nobody from its staff was hurt and the eggs, embryos and other reproductive materials in its lab are secure and undamaged. One person is dead. Law enforcement sources told ABC News it's.

[John C. Dvorak]

Believed to be the suspect.

[Adam Curry]

Investigators were seen searching a location connected to the attack. IVF has become entangled in the political debate over reproductive rights. And the FBI said the clinic was targeted in an intentional act of terrorism. Investigators also found John. Recording equipment, a camera and tripod, suggesting that perhaps the attack was meant to be either recorded or live streamed to make some kind of a political statement. And Aaron, what is the Justice Department saying about this?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, what does Pam say?

[Adam Curry]

We heard from Attorney General Pam Bondi.

[John C. Dvorak]

She told us in a statement we.

[Adam Curry]

Are working to learn more. But she said, let me be clear. The Trump administration understands that women and.

[John C. Dvorak]

Mothers are the heartbeat of America.

[Adam Curry]

Violence against a fertility clinic is unforgivable. President Trump has pledged to expand access to ivf, but he has faced backlash from some in the Christian conservative movement who are opposed to the loss of embryos during the process.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm telling you, up until this morning, white Christian nationalist extremist terrorists. Oh, I'm sorry, It's a soy boy. Who's nuts? What did they mean? Let me read from the New York Times.

[Adam Curry]

No, let me read from this. One of our producers who put together a report.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, excellent.

[Adam Curry]

The suspect behind the bombing in Palm Springs today has been identified as guy Edward Bart. Cus. Was that mentioned in any of these news reports?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, they, they. No. This just came out this morning, so I don't think. You had. You got this this morning, right?

[Adam Curry]

I got this yesterday.

[John C. Dvorak]

Really? They're only just now reporting it. Interesting.

[Adam Curry]

He's from 29 Palms. He's a self described pro mortalist.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sorry, that's a new term. Pro mortalist.

[Adam Curry]

Who was angry because he felt. This, by the way, is all on Instagram, of course, and it could be inaccurate, but at least it's interesting and it gives us some possibilities because there's some interest. There's funny stuff in here, if you want to call that funny. Yeah, he was angry because he didn't give consent to anyone to bring him into the world.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, man.

[Adam Curry]

In a 30 minute audio recording he posted online. I don't have that.

[John C. Dvorak]

No.

[Adam Curry]

He made the following statements, quote, I figured I would just make a recording explaining why I've decided to Bomb the IVF building or clinic. He said at the beginning of the recording, quote, basically it just comes down to I'm angry that I exist.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow.

[Adam Curry]

And that, you know, nobody got my consent to bring me here. Now by the way, this is. The word's not going to be used but this is kind of, you know, we say, oh, this is terrible. This is nihilism.

[John C. Dvorak]

I have the guy which was very.

[Adam Curry]

Popular in the early 1800s.

[John C. Dvorak]

I have the video. Whenever you're ready. I can play a little bit of that of the guy.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, well let me just finish. I'll just finish the report.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, sure.

[Adam Curry]

One yeah is good. I'm very much against ivf. It's extremely wrong. There are people who are having kids after they've sat there and thought about it. How much, how much more stupid can it get? I don't know. That makes no sense. This is also. And then he then our producer who's. He knows why I'm going to not name him. There's a new hound him is one of our regulars. This also came from a local news. Describing a portion from his FAQ on his website. In the facts section of his website he further explains that his best friend Sophie shared similar views and recently died under convincing after convincing her boyfriend to shoot her in the head as she slept.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow.

[Adam Curry]

We had agreed that if one of us died the other would probably soon follow. Bart Cus wrote. Now I looked that up. In fact, in fact I'll read this part. His description seemed to match the death of 27 year old Sophie Tinney. I looked her up. In Fox Island, Washington on April 22. Police arrested her boyfriend, 29 year old Lars Eugene Nelson and believe Tinney convinced Nielsen. No, Nelson convinced Nelson to shoot her in the head as she slept. Nelson was charged with second degree murder. You can look this case up. That's exactly what happened. This dumb shit. And Lars by the way, looks like a big dumb Viking who is like a young guy with a lot of hair and this doesn't look that bright. Whose girlfriend obviously said honey, can you shoot me in the head while I'm sleeping?

[John C. Dvorak]

Sounds reasonable.

[Adam Curry]

And he did. So she's sleeping there, his girlfriend. This is his girlfriend and he just pulls the trigger. And they believed all these stories and I guess somebody knew who this girl was who was obviously a lunatic and so that takes care of her and this guy's going to go to jail. And then we got this other guy who may or may not have blowed himself up. This is ridiculous.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. I Wonder if any SSRIs or any kind of antidepressants were involved in this case.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, think.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Now they're all. They're all X. I'm sorry. They're all. Yeah, they're all Gen X now. She was 28. 28, and I was sure. 27. She's 27. He's. These are all right at the cusp of the. At the very beginning of. I'm sorry, Z. Gen Z. Gen z ends at 28 or 29 right now. It's pathetic. And I think they're all drugged up because this is idiotic.

[John C. Dvorak]

Actually, I thought I had the video, but it's already no longer available. We waited 30 seconds and it's gone now.

[Adam Curry]

But you're blaming me?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I'm blaming the platforms. Oh, we can't have that out there.

[Adam Curry]

We can't have that out there. I don't know why they don't want to let this information out.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm with you. That makes no sense.

[Adam Curry]

But it makes sense if you think it as the following. You're in the meeting, you say, look, is this going to encourage more kids to be this way? Why don't we just suppress it and leave it out of the news?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well, this is on one hand, of course.

[Adam Curry]

We don't need another nihilist movement by a bunch of stoned, drugged up Gen Z lunatics.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, that's exactly the issue. I mean, okay, so luckily no one else was hurt, but it speaks of a much larger problem. We have a nihilistic. We have a nihilistic movement. If people are doing this and they're posting stuff like that and, hey, man, kill me in my sleep. This is a problem.

[Adam Curry]

Even the bombing is one thing, but this girl talking her boyfriend into shooting her in the head while she's sleeping is insane.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, it's. I think it's drug induced, but then legal. I'm just guessing legal, clinical, prescribed drugs that. I can't think of anything else. That's what spawns this. That's the real tragedy here. It's like, okay, this is what happens. It's bad. Luckily. Are we done with this topic?

[Adam Curry]

I'm done with it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I'm done with it too. Although this won't be the end. Well, actually will be the end of it because it wasn't a Christian. A white Christian nationalist nut job terrorist. So.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, well, yeah, they'd have to do some real creativity here.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it's like, oh, there could be an entire epidemic of nihilistic children who are on SSRIs. No that's not worth reporting. If it wasn't. No. You know, Southern Baptist Church.

[Adam Curry]

Is that what. Is that not worth what? Let's back up. The pharma companies own the media.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yes.

[Adam Curry]

It is never going to get reported.

[John C. Dvorak]

Of course not. Of course not. It's bad.

[Adam Curry]

But you won't hear that anyplace else.

[John C. Dvorak]

No.

[Adam Curry]

And thank you, Matthew.

[John C. Dvorak]

Unfortunately, once a year we have to do it. There's just no getting around it. It's a staple of the no Agenda show. We don't have to discuss it very much, but we do have a winner of the 2025 Eurovision Song Contest. Emotional scenes as Austria's Emotion was declared the winner of Eurovision 2025. With his operatic pop song Wasted Love, JJ topped the votes from music experts and viewers from across the continent and beyond. Speaking after the announcement, the 24 year old from Vienna said he was still processing the news. This is absolutely insane. My dreams came true. This is. Is that's out of this world. So thank you so, so much, guys. Thank you, guys. You can tell he's in.

[Adam Curry]

I'm sorry, I missed. Who won?

[John C. Dvorak]

Austria. Austria. JJ from Austria. Thank you. It marks Austria's third win in the contest. Conchita's victory in 2014 in 1966. In second place was Israel's Yuval Raphael, survivor of the October 7th Hamas attacks. With her new day will rise. Pro Palestinian groups had called for the European Broadcasting Union to bar Israel from the competition over the war in Gaza, a view not shared by some Israelis watching the contest. Two demonstrators tried to get on the stage during Rafael's performance, but were prevented from doing so by security officials. Third on the leaderboard was Estonia's Tommy Cash, with Sweden and Italy clinching fourth and fifth place, respectively. So none of the suspected frontrunners actually made it into the top three. And I'm not sure what the political angle of Austria because it usually is politically motivated. Is there anything that could. Anything that we can expect from Austria?

[Adam Curry]

It's a mystery. I gotta find this note. One of your compatriots from Holland sent me complaining about this segment, and you in particular.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, do you want me to take a little break while you search for this?

[Adam Curry]

No, I don't want you to take any break.

[John C. Dvorak]

People are complaining.

[Adam Curry]

I'm hoping to find it, but I've got all these. Don't make all these impediments.

[John C. Dvorak]

Don't make me play the hook of the song. Oh, oh. Too late.

[Adam Curry]

It's terrible.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. Wait, listen. This is why he won. That's it. So they.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, because he can sing in falsetto.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, this is exactly right. People are so used to trash muck. AI and or what is it? Auto tune that when they hear someone who can actually sing. Oh, the guy's gonna win. He can actually sing. He's got a falsetto. Whoa. That's. That's, that's what's happening.

[Adam Curry]

Here's the note.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, here we go.

[Adam Curry]

From Lowe's. Adam claimed.

[John C. Dvorak]

Adam claimed. Without. Without evidence.

[Adam Curry]

This is a. This is a nasty note, but I think it was funny.

[John C. Dvorak]

Can I ask, did you reply to this person and say, why don't you email Adam?

[Adam Curry]

I always do that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well, okay. The person did not email me.

[Adam Curry]

Adam, they don't want to email you because you're going to get mad.

[John C. Dvorak]

My reputation precedes me. I see.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, it does.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

Adam Clay. Adam claimed, by the way, you know that. You know what I think of that word?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

All streets will be empty on the evening of the Eurovision Song Festival. Cause everybody will be watching. Obviously he moved out of the country decades ago. From all the people I know, only my 1772 year old mother watches that lame show. It's only watched by a bunch of women of a certain age. Some gays and Adam.

[John C. Dvorak]

Some Gays and Adam. There's a show title, Some Gays and Adam. Yes. Okay.

[Adam Curry]

It's only not. It's not only unwatchable. The music makes your eardrums shrivel up. And if that isn't enough, the satanic symbols. Yes, yes, this are being noticed by more people every year. Yeah, well, this person, we'll give you credit for that. You have been noticing the satanic symbols for at least over a decade.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's why I watch. Although I couldn't watch yesterday. I recorded it, by the way.

[Adam Curry]

This year should be the final nail on the coffin because they're sending a Congolese refugee with a French song. There is nothing left of what was once the intention of the festival. Even my mom complains about it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Everybody who I know, who watch, which is pretty much everybody. And I know this because, you know, the Europeans use WhatsApp. You're not supposed to say WhatsApp. You say WhatsApp. And you know, I saw them in WhatsApp text groups and they're giving me blow by blow, like, oh, this sucks, this is horrible. And they really dislike this year's show. But they watched and These are not 70 year old ladies. But I.

[Adam Curry]

Gay.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's right, my gay WhatsApp groups. That's exactly it.

[Adam Curry]

We always suspected you had a gay WhatsApp group to get some information.

[John C. Dvorak]

One. Just one. Hey, the thing I'm worried about is the anonymous gay accountant. He. He wouldn't, he didn't text me back. I'm worried that, you know, he's probably doing taxes.

[Adam Curry]

It's still part of the season.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, did you.

[Adam Curry]

Well maybe, you know, maybe he's gonna get. He's getting like sur. Anonymous from dark alien over time. We alienate everybody.

[John C. Dvorak]

We try, we try, we try.

[Adam Curry]

So now we're anti Muslim. You know, according to his last notes.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's. That's so unfair.

[Adam Curry]

I thought so.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. I don't think he meant us, by the way. I think he just meant the trolls.

[Adam Curry]

The trolls are. The trolls hate the Jews.

[John C. Dvorak]

The trolls hate everybody. That's kind of the beauty of the trolls. They hate everybod. It's not. Not a big deal.

[Adam Curry]

That's true. I agree.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Okay. Do you want to go into some. Something rather interesting and I don't know.

[Adam Curry]

I thought, I thought the, the anti. The pro mortalist or the hell. He was pretty interesting.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Pro mortalist. It's just, it's not, it's. It's sad. I'm really sad.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. There you go again. This is. I got another note about you being this way. Well, no, yeah, I defended you because. Because this one of our. Another producer producers are complaining a lot recently. Have you noticed this?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, I have. We're doing it wrong. This is, this is the main thing I'm learning. Whatever we're doing, it's wrong.

[Adam Curry]

I always like to look them up on the database. Because we have a database.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. And did the toxic empathy guy donate? No, no, of course not. Of course not. That's okay. Contributing to the show with complaints is a kind of value. It's an odd form of value, but it's value. It's valuable in some way. No, actually I have a. I have a small series of clips by Andrew Rasulas about the Istanbul non meeting and you like, you like Rasulas?

[Adam Curry]

Do I?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. That's the former Canadian defense guy you said.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, that guy. Yeah, he is good. He's a good analyst. This reminds me, I have some analyst clips too.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

Mine are lousy though.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well, let's do, let's do mine since yours are lousy. So what happened is nothing happened. Putin didn't go. Which of course meant Zelensky didn't go. Putin did send some lackey to Istanbul. They were supposed to have a face to face.

[Adam Curry]

I'm your lackey from Russia.

[John C. Dvorak]

I do want to ask you about what constitutes a good deal for Russians and for Ukrainians. But first I want to talk to you about what happened, what transpired this past week, which was the meeting in Istanbul that just didn't happen. When it came to both major leaders, Putin who first proposed the talks, did not attend them and neither did Zelensky. What does it signal when even the leaders at the center of the conflict refused to meet? I mean, Putin's emissary that he sent in his stead was a Minister of culture and heritage, not typically a high ranking official that you would send to such a meeting. What does this tell us? It's means the Russians are negotiating from a position of strength that they're showing. They're showing strength by actually playing around with who they send, lowering expectations, raising, lowering. That's playing your opponent and that's what they're doing. They played Zelinsky in a way as well as came to, came to Istanbul. Putin didn't send, you know, ex minister of culture there who actually harangued the Ukrainians and saying, well, we fought the Swedes for 21 years. How would you like that? So yeah, I mean that's what the Russians are doing. They're playing a hardball as they always do in negotiations and we're going and we're going to see where this goes. But the Russians are not desperate for a peace. They will agree to a peace again, I repeat, as long as they get most of what they want, if not absolutely everything. And that of course means that sort of a neutral type Ukraine, they're going to keep the 20% of the territory of East Ukraine. That's pretty much a given. Everybody understands that the delicate balance is what happens to that 80%. And therein lies the puzzle that's being hammered out. Probably tomorrow. Yes, tomorrow is the big phone call. But let's move to the new news, which is the new news. He said that he will talk to Vladimir Putin at 10am on Monday, followed by a conversation with Volodymyr Zelensky. Has anyone been successful in talking Vladimir Putin specifically into anything? I mean, what do you make of that, of this proposal? Well, I think first of all, I think it's really good news too. I think Trump understands how to deal with Putin in the sense that he understands that Putin, you just can't put pressure on him, can't put him in a corner. It's well known that Putin does not react well when he's cornered.

[Adam Curry]

However, Putin does understand pressure and incentive.

[John C. Dvorak]

So the art of real negotiations, which Trump also understands. And so I think we've come to the point now in the negotiations that basically Putin is, is, is looking for the deal now. He's prepared to make a deal. He just makes a deal and basically stop what the Ukrainians want. So Trump is trying to figure where that line is and those conversations tomorrow back to back. So Putin at 10, Zelensky after that, other NATO people after that. So he's going to try and work something Putin at 10, Zelensky at 11, Mark Ruta at noon. This is going to be a series of.

[Adam Curry]

So by the way, I have, I'm just a tease. This is just the opposite of the analysis clips I have from NPR where they bless of course, that's why this guy, this Canadian guy is good. He's pretty accurate.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. And, and so when the question comes up what does Russia actually want, he has answers. So let's talk a little bit about the specifics here. I mean we are talking about we know that a long time stipulation for Vladimir Putin was that Ukraine not be allowed to join NATO because he will feel like he's surrounded by, by enemies. He will be. Secondly will be are we talking about disputed territories? We're talking when it comes to the most recent conflict, Donbass, Donetsk. But are we talking about Crimea as well? Well, Crimea is a given I mean from a Russians, they're even talking about that one. I mean they, they incorporated that in 2014, 15 and that from historical point of view the Russians firmly regard that as, as being Russia. So the Ukrainians of course will not recognize that and they'll be a saw off on that. You're a de facto but, but, but also but the more delicate one is on the, the four other oblasts and the Russians don't control all of them. They control bits and pieces, well, substantial parts but not all. And the Russians want all of them. They want it right up to the administrative line which means Ukrainians are going to have to pull back and that's what Russia is told the Ukrainians in Istanbul on Friday. They want them to pull back right to the administrative lines, giving up some cities along the way that of course Ukrainians said is a nonstarter. And that's where we are. It's so interesting to watch the trolls, the notorious anti Israel Jew haters. That's just what I call them. They may not hate Jews but they're anti Zionist. Well because you know there's a genocide in Gaza when it comes to this. Like ah, just let Putin roll over and wipe out all of Ukraine, in six months, it'll be over. Who care?

[Adam Curry]

So they're pro Russian people.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know. I think they're, I think they're nihilists is what I think. I think they're nihilists. What was that, what was the term? Anti.

[Adam Curry]

Pro mortalist.

[John C. Dvorak]

Pro mortalist, yes. Trump has said, by the way, nothing's going to happen on the talks until Putin and I get together, which seems to imply actual meeting, face to face meeting rather than a phone chat that's going to happen on Monday. So what's that, what do you think is the likelihood of that meeting happening anytime, anytime soon? That will depend on Monday. I mean, in Istanbul, the Ukrainians asked the Russians, they want, they want Zelinsky to meet Putin. But also in the background is that, that Trump would meet with Putin as. Yeah, Trump would be Putin as well. So that's all very much part of an endgame scenario. It's very realistic.

[Adam Curry]

If this war comes to an end.

[John C. Dvorak]

That'S what will have to happen. So now we'll have to see. The phone calls on Monday are kind of a prep to see is there room to maneuver here? This is the big boys now talking. Big boys. So they're going to see is there room to maneuver. Do they have a deal? And if not, then I'm favoring for a long war. But we're not there yet necessarily. There's still hope here. I love this guy's take. I mean, he's, he's, I think he's so right on with this. This is the big boy. Trump and Putin, they're gonna talk it out. And of course, President Trump has some carrots and he has some sticks. You mentioned earlier that you suspect Trump.

[Adam Curry]

Will stop in a second. Where'd you get this clip?

[John C. Dvorak]

Cbc.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. You mentioned earlier that you suspect Trump will use pressure. And believe me, American news media does not call Andrew Asulas for any analysis of the situation.

[Adam Curry]

No, I can prove that in the next few years.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. Think is like carrot and the stick in, in a more regular person's vernacular. Were you laughing, girl? What are we talking about? I mean, certainly sanctions, presumably economic pressures.

[Adam Curry]

Anything else?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. So what I think it's already been stated that the conversation tomorrow, Monday between Trump and Putin will involve not just Ukraine issues, but issues of Trump trade. And issues of trade implies sanctions relief of some sort. So that's the way it's been defined. So the Russians are certainly looking for sanctions relief and increasing some kind of Bilateral trade with the United States. Ever since the Americans started to talk the Russians under Trump. Underlying all these discussions has been the issue of economic trade between the United States and Russia, which imply sanctions, rising relief, which from a Russian point of view would be a big incentive. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I, I like this guy. He's.

[Adam Curry]

I like the idea of trading with Russia. They've got different kinds of products.

[John C. Dvorak]

Minerals. They got some mineral. What other products will be fun to have? Babushkas?

[Adam Curry]

Nesting dolls.

[John C. Dvorak]

Nesting dolls, yes. Yeah, that'd be cool.

[Adam Curry]

They gave a lot of, of agricultural products. They have butters and things that are.

[John C. Dvorak]

Butters. They got butters. Butters.

[Adam Curry]

They have crazy drinks. They have crazy drinks.

[John C. Dvorak]

Like. What do you mean? Oh, well, they have kvass, which is my favorite kvass.

[Adam Curry]

Well, there's a bunch of them. I mean, there's a Russian store in the city and I go there every so often.

[John C. Dvorak]

Have you ever had kvass that's like.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I have. It's, it's, it's a, it's like a malt product.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's a malt product.

[Adam Curry]

It's undrinkable, to be honest.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I really like it.

[Adam Curry]

Iceland has a similar product, which is. Yuck.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I like the cost.

[Adam Curry]

I can see how you can, like. It is somewhat semi refreshing.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. Like Russia itself. Semi refreshing.

[Adam Curry]

Semi refreshing Russia.

[John C. Dvorak]

I went to Moscow. Semi refreshing. It was all. It was. All right, you know, so you don't have npr. You have PBS clips on Ukraine, not npr.

[Adam Curry]

I'm sorry, these are pbs. Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

But wait, what difference does it make?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, as we all know. Oops, that's not it. Where'd it go? Where's my elitist voice? There we go.

[Adam Curry]

Elitist voices of America.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is NPR or pbs. For perspective on the state of play of the negotiations between Russia and Ukraine, we turn now to Andrew Weiss, former State Department official who served in the George H.W. bush and Clinton administrations. He's now the Vice President for Studies at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. Andrew, always great to see you. Great to see you. So there's peace talks today, wrapping just shy of two hours, a historic prisoner swap, but no ceasefire, no major breakthroughs. What do you see here? Is this progress? This process is about an audience of one. Both sides are trying to appeal to President Trump and avoid being blamed for the process not going anywhere. So the Ukrainians have gone great far, taken a lot of steps to agree to an unconditional 30 day ceasefire, to agree to meet with the Russians and to sort of, you know, play nicely with this administration, the Russians who have given no ground and in fact, as you heard from Nick Schiffrin just a moment ago, are actually expanding their demands. Also want to look like they're nice people and that they are serious about peace. They're not. And as we heard just a moment ago, they think time's on their side. Yeah, you're right. It's worthless. An audience of one.

[Adam Curry]

This guy, Andrew Weiss, try finding anything about him. He worked for both Bush and Clinton. That tells you something right there. Works for a Republican and Democrat. He has no profile. He's been done a lot of heavy hitting stuff. He's got no profile at all. On Wikipedia he has.

[John C. Dvorak]

Is it Weiss or Weissman?

[Adam Curry]

Weiss.

[John C. Dvorak]

Weiss.

[Adam Curry]

Andrew S. Weiss.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yes, I see him here.

[Adam Curry]

And then you can try to find. He does have a profile on LinkedIn which tells you nothing. And so this guy's a spook of some sort.

[John C. Dvorak]

Here. Vice President for Studies and James family chair of the Carnegie Endowment. Graphic novel out now. Accidental the Life and Lies of Vladimir Putin.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, so he's not obviously. Why would you put him on? He's obviously not a Putin fan. When he wrote the Life and Lies of Vladimir Putin as his book.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it doesn't sound like.

[Adam Curry]

But let's put him on because he's going to give us some objective reality.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah, that's the guy.

[Adam Curry]

So he does just. What? But that's what PBS wants. PBS has turned into a huge anti Trump operation.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is new.

[Adam Curry]

It's worse.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, ever since Gwen Ifill passed away.

[Adam Curry]

Well, no, but even more recently, ever since they started pulling funding, they've just turned. I mean, they say, well, screw this guy. They're taking our 1% funding away.

[John C. Dvorak]

It may turn out somehow that that was a lot more than 1%, it seems maybe.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it could be. Could be. If you're whining a lot.

[John C. Dvorak]

Seems maybe USAID or something. There's. You don't whine this much about 1% now. No agenda show. We're only 1% donates. Yeah, you know we whine when it goes down to we whine. We whine. We do.

[Adam Curry]

We whine a lot.

[John C. Dvorak]

People at the meet up yesterday, like, you're really scaring me. You're really scaring me. Yeah, yeah. People, are you really scaring me.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I know. This is. I know the reaction.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, you're really scaring me.

[Adam Curry]

Why? Let's go. Well, we'll talk about this.

[John C. Dvorak]

We'll talk about it later. Talk about it later.

[Adam Curry]

Let's go to clip two where he Just, by the way, just gets worse.

[John C. Dvorak]

In another post, President Trump said he hopes a ceasefire in Ukraine. Ukraine will be the result on Monday when he has separate phone calls.

[Adam Curry]

Is this part two of these of the series of anals?

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, I'm sorry. Well, okay, it was a little mislabeled. So the first one was Ukraine anal PBS. Then there's Ukraine anal 2A. But what is Ukraine? Russia calls Trump PBS. I'm a little concerned.

[Adam Curry]

I'm sorry. I guess I should call it Ukraine anal Russia bad.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, of course. I could have known. So we know.

[Adam Curry]

He says too.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. So we know Vladimir Putin was not at these meetings. And you heard President Zelensky say that that is a sign that Putin is not serious about wanting a ceasefire. You agree with that assessment? Yes, exactly the opposite of rasulas. He's like, no, that's how big boys play. Yeah, send a little dude in the background. I'm doing some negotiation. Art of the deal, baby. Unski of the deal. Donald.

[Adam Curry]

Guys, just. Yes, yes, Putin badin. Bad lies.

[John C. Dvorak]

Lies of Putin.

[Adam Curry]

I wrote a book about it. And by the way, this guy's degree from Columbia, he's in Russia studies, he went to Russia. One of his jobs was to interview and do a dossier, I guess, on every single Russian oligarch. Very strange character, but he's just obviously a stooge. And why does PBS have him on? So let's go with 2A.

[John C. Dvorak]

No. The Russians at this point have very maximalist goals. Those goals amount essentially to the wiping Ukraine off the map. That's what they want. They want Ukraine to disappear and to become forcibly reintegrated into Russia's Olympic. At any point does he say full scale invasion and Kyiv A number of times. Would that be in this?

[Adam Curry]

I don't know if he does or not, but this is bull crap.

[John C. Dvorak]

The Ukrainians are not, not in any position where they're desperate for a deal. And I think this White House in part is hampered in its peacemaking efforts because they have a misunderstanding of where things are on the ground. They believe Ukraine's in a dire situation, desperate for a deal, and they think that the Russians, if the United States were to cut off military assistance again to Ukraine, could roll over Ukraine in short order. Both those, unfortunately are not the case. Ukraine is in a bad situation, but the defense is inherently favored in this war. They've been able to expand their own defense production capabilities. So a lot of what they need, drones, artillery, things like that, they can now produce at home. They're seriously in need of continued U.S. military and intelligence support. They also have niche important requirements, including for air defense, that they can't replace on their own. You heard this audience of one, as you referred to him, President Trump yesterday, as he's traveling in the Middle east, say that nothing is going to happen. And until he and Putin speak directly. Do you agree with that and what do you think would come of that kind of meeting? The Ukrainians and the Europeans are really worried that any bilateral agreement between the United States and Russia could be rammed down Ukraine's throat and rammed down Europe's throat. So there's a desire to make sure that the United States president doesn't set off in a spontaneous way, as we've seen him do on other foreign policy matters, where he sort of runs around, makes spontaneous decisions, does things on the fly. This is a very dangerous, delicate moment for the Ukrainians. They don't want to see a peace deal that's agreed behind their backs. At the same time, Donald Trump, I think, has been bending over backwards to avoid putting blame on Vladimir Putin. So asking for a meeting is now just the next sort of way of kicking the can and avoiding the moment of decision that Trump had promised us, where he said, if I can't get this settled within my first hundred days, I'm going to walk away. That's the moment we're waiting for Trump to reveal what walking away means. Season of reveal. Only because I'm new to this that I bring it up. But the audience of one, I don't know if there's a subtle subtext to this, but in the white Christian nationalist, extremist terrorist world, the audience of one is used frequently. And it doesn't mean Donald Trump Just, just something of note for me. I don't know if this is, if they're using that as subtext.

[Adam Curry]

I don't know what the subtext of any of this guy is. Commentary.

[John C. Dvorak]

She says it, too. She said audience of one.

[Adam Curry]

The audience did reiterate. Yeah, this guy's a bad guy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah, but he got a lot of airtime. Bridget Brink published.

[Adam Curry]

Well, yeah, he got a lot of airtime on pbs, which is a bad operation, is worse than ever.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. This rap Bridget Brink published just today in this op ed in the Detroit Free Press, she basically said she resigned last month because of Trump's foreign policy after serving three years in Ukraine. She wrote this. I cannot stand by while a country is invaded, a democracy bombarded and children killed with impunity. I believe the only way to secure US Interest is to stand up for Democracies. And to stand against autocratic peace at any price is not peace at all. It is appeasement. Is President Trump here pursuing a policy of appeasement? I think he is. And I think the risk is that the policy that we had in place when Donald Trump became President Chamberlain focused on unity with the Europeans, common cause with the Ukrainians, and showing the Russians that they can't get what they want and that we would build leverage over time to get them to see that this, this was a hopeless goal, that they were never going to get Ukraine back. Well, that's exactly the old globalist thinking. That's exactly what's been going on and has not been working for decades. Show the Russians they can't get what they want. Instead of, well, why don't we figure out a way to live together? Which I'm all for.

[Adam Curry]

Everybody actually is.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's a lot of.

[Adam Curry]

Except for these guys, these stooges. Now, which reminds you. Is that the end of the clip? I think so.

[John C. Dvorak]

That was the end.

[Adam Curry]

So Pence was on Meet the Depressed this morning.

[John C. Dvorak]

Pence.

[Adam Curry]

Pence, huh.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay. He lives.

[Adam Curry]

And so, so old black hands was chatting with him and she says, man.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hands, I think is what you meant to say, man hands.

[Adam Curry]

And she says she's talking to him and he comes up with, you know, he felt bad that he says he doesn't like it when a president puts down. And of course this is a kind of a callback to Obama giving his speeches overseas where the president puts down the, puts down the usa. And what he's specifically referring to was Trump's criticism of our previous policies of previous presidents of nation building, which was in his big speech in Riyadh. And he says this is no good because we don't do it. We can't do it. We do it. We suck at nation building. And every time we go in there we just ruin places. And this has got to stop and we got to let people do their own thing.

[John C. Dvorak]

And we, it's also because we don't actually go in for nation building. That's, that's a farce. We don't, it's for rubbilizing. We don't go in for the. Here's some democracy. Uh huh.

[Adam Curry]

So. And I found that to be. That is going to be. This was a signal to me and I think this guy's speech was too. This is a signal of what's next. Trump is anti American because he, because.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh yes, I think you're spot on. You nailed it. And I can back you Up. I'm sure you heard about Bruce Springsteen in Manchester.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, of. Duh.

[John C. Dvorak]

But. But did you. So you might have seen.

[Adam Curry]

I heard the whole thing, which is long.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, but that's being booed, by the way, by the crowd who wanted music. They didn't want to hear this.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, that's. That's debatable.

[Adam Curry]

Well, it's debatable, but if you're going to a rock concert, you don't want to hear some guy lecturing you about the policies of their country.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, no, you don't, particularly, because if you go to Manchester and you get in. An Uber friend of mine was just there. The Uber. The first thing the Uber or the cab driver will say is, hey, so how's it going with Trump? Wish we had a guy like Trump here. That's what the people on the street are saying. But the thing is, Bruce Springsteen, certainly during my, My, my Days of Hay, embodied America. He embodied the American spirit. It, you know, it was like he was the working man. He was the, you know, down at the docks. He was the guy. And now he's just an elitist cuck.

[Adam Curry]

What's that in your mouth?

[John C. Dvorak]

It's unbelievable. I mean, I have to play because he did three different things and he started off. Let me just play a little bit of this. So this is the. The beginning of. He did three different. Stop. Stop the sets. Good evening, Philip. Philadelphia. It's great to be in Manchester and.

[Adam Curry]

Back in the uk.

[John C. Dvorak]

Welcome to the Land of Hope and Dreams tour. Can you believe this? The Land of Hope and Dreams tour. Okay, Bruce. The Mighty E Street Band is here tonight to call upon the righteous power of art, of music, of rock and roll in dangerous times. Nah, some dangerous times. Authoritarianism. But to listen. And we can. We can stop it whenever we want. We can comment on it. The amount of lies and. Well, I don't think he's lying. I think he truly believes that this is taking place because he's in his California bubble. Bruce. Bruce, come back to. Come back down. Come on, man.

[Adam Curry]

Come in California.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah. He's been in California for a while now. Come back to Tom's River. Come back to the Stone Pony. Bruce. Come back to the Jersey shore. You've been contaminated now.

[Adam Curry]

Easy, Roy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Easy, Roy. There's some very weird, strange and dangerous.

[Adam Curry]

Going on out there right now.

[John C. Dvorak]

Dangerous? Yeah. In the country. You're actually in Bruce Springsteen. That's where some very dangerous stuff is going on. You're right. In America.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, in America, they are persecuting people for using their right to free speech.

[John C. Dvorak]

And voicing their dissent. No, I don't think so. This is happening now. It's troublemakers who are spooks. That's who. That's the problem.

[Adam Curry]

In America. The richest men are taking satisfaction and.

[John C. Dvorak]

Abandoning the world's poorest children to sickness and death. Now, where does this come from? From where are the world's richest men taking satisfaction in the poorest?

[Adam Curry]

They're all sitting around smoking cigars, saying, how many kids did we kill? This is happening now.

[John C. Dvorak]

Right now.

[Adam Curry]

In my country. They're taking sadistic pleasure in the pain that they inflict.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sadistic what? But this is. Are you confused with the Grammys, Bruce? This sadistic pleasure.

[Adam Curry]

In my country, they're taking sadistic pleasure in the pain that they inflict on loyal American workers.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, when it comes. When it comes to Bill Gates and Soros, maybe. Maybe. But I don't think that's who you meant.

[Adam Curry]

They're rolling back historic civil rights legislation.

[John C. Dvorak]

What is he talking about?

[Adam Curry]

What's historic Rolling back.

[John C. Dvorak]

Rolling back historical. Let's maybe. Maybe he'll explain.

[Adam Curry]

That led to a more just and plural society. They're abandoning our great allies.

[John C. Dvorak]

Our great. Because they've gone nuts. That's why. And siding with dictators.

[Adam Curry]

Against those struggling for their freedom.

[John C. Dvorak]

Dude, I. I totally need someone to be playing the keyboards while I'm doing my. While I'm doing a rap here. That is pretty awesome. They're defunding American universities who have hundreds of billions of dollars in endowments they don't pay taxes on that. Won't bow down to their ideological dimensions. Wow. Man. They're removing residents off American streets. Residents. Oh, by the way, he's reading this. This whole thing?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, this is the joke of it. He can't even memorize it.

[John C. Dvorak]

The whole thing is on teleprompter. He keeps looking down residents removing. You know what? If you're a resident in any other country, you're not a legal resident president, you get removed.

[Adam Curry]

And without due process of law, are deporting them to foreign detention centers and prisons.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is all happening now. Yay. Meanwhile, we're at a 400 pound a ticket show.

[Adam Curry]

A majority of our elected representatives have.

[John C. Dvorak]

Failed to protect the American people from.

[Adam Curry]

The abuses of an unfit president and a rogue government.

[John C. Dvorak]

Rogue government. Listen to them. They're like, yeah, that's like us. You like.

[Adam Curry]

You like us President and a rogue government.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Oh, wait, you're not talking about here. Oh, I know. They're convinced about Keir Starmer being In the topic here, they have no concern.

[Adam Curry]

Or idea of what. Maybe this whole thing was ironic.

[John C. Dvorak]

I felt it was.

[Adam Curry]

And in a way, he's actually bitching about the uk.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I think a lot of them there took it that way. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we got a rogue government here.

[Adam Curry]

The problem is his background indicates otherwise. He was going to leave the country if Trump won one twice. Twice. Well, he did leave it. He's in England as we speak.

[John C. Dvorak]

When he left New Jersey, as far as I'm concerned, when you go to California, you left the country.

[Adam Curry]

They have no concern or idea of what it means to be deeply American. The America that I've sung to you about for 50 years is real.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's real, and regardless of its faults.

[Adam Curry]

Is a great country with a great people.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, all right. Justice. Like. No, that's sadistic. They take great pleasure in seeing children go hungry and die. I don't think so, Boss. That's so. That. That. That what I heard there. And I watched all three of his little ditties. That really hurt me.

[Adam Curry]

Why did it hurt you? Are you friends of his?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I grew up with Bruce Springsteen. I was proud of Bruce Springsteen. I promoted Bruce Springsteen music in the Netherlands when no one wanted to hear about it. Like Jersey stuff we don't care about. I love Bruce Springsteen. That whole Born in the usa, you know, he's. You see him with his blue jeans on. He's got his little bandana hanging out of his butt pocket. Mirka. No, that's just not him anymore.

[Adam Curry]

He's bony.

[John C. Dvorak]

He is. It's sad. He's really turned. He has turned his back on America. America. He just doesn't realize it. Ever since Patty Scalfa, man, I hate to say it, but who. Ever since he. He married. Married the Tambourine Girl because he was. He was married and he got divorced and he ran away with the girl who plays the tambourine. That's. That's his wife now.

[Adam Curry]

And that started it, you think?

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, that's when it started. I mean, that's like the Yoko of Bruce Springsteen.

[Adam Curry]

Well, it definitely happened to Rob Reiner when he married the. His current wife. Yeah, he went completely off the rails.

[John C. Dvorak]

So we live in such women's fault.

[Adam Curry]

That's what you're saying.

[John C. Dvorak]

Isn'T it always.

[Adam Curry]

It's always, yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Like. Like you never said anything behind my back about my second wife. I'm sure you did. Oh, man, she's ruining the show. She's ruining the show. Actually, you probably thought it enhanced the show. So we live in an. Speaking of irony in an upside down.

[Adam Curry]

World.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yesterday was International Day Against Homophobia, and I caught a. I thought.

[Adam Curry]

Wait, hold on a second. Before you even go there, I want you to play this clip, okay? Because I don't. That's not my understanding. Here's the real. What's going on. World Pride Festival day month.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, yes, it may be World Pride Month, but yesterday was the. Was the actual International Day against homophobia. I guess they haven't. By the way, I haven't seen the proclamation on the White House, but I'll just presume that President Trump did that. And World Pride festivities kicked off Today in Washington, D.C. this year's host community, the biannual celebration. Host community? What does that mean?

[Adam Curry]

It's a host community. And by the way, when you listen to this report, is it really about gay people or trans people?

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, of course. And World Pride festivities kicked off Today in Washington, D.C. this year's host community, the biannual celebration is being held against the backdrop of the Trump administration. Biannual? Does that mean once every two years or twice a year?

[Adam Curry]

It could mean either one.

[John C. Dvorak]

The biannual celebration is being held against the backdrop of the Trump administration's moves against the LGBTQ community. They're making moves.

[Adam Curry]

They're making moves.

[John C. Dvorak]

Nice moves. On the National Mall, the American Civil Liberties Union and other groups unveiled a massive collection of quilts. The panels were handmade by transgender people and their families. Previous World Pride events have been a boon for the host nation's tourism. But this year, several countries, including Germany, Ireland and Denmark, have issued official travel warnings for their citizens who are transgender or non. Binary.

[Adam Curry]

Sorry.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. This actually will result in homophobia. That's what's going to happen. It's because the gays, the gays. I know the gays, the gays, they don't like this. They're just tired of the trans stuff. They really. Especially gay guys. They're now like third world citizens of the community.

[Adam Curry]

They've dropped. They've. Their status is dropped to the floor.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's gonna be the basement before you notice.

[Adam Curry]

Hey, get out of here, gay guys. We're talking to trans over here. It's gonna be she. It's Z. She. They.

[John C. Dvorak]

They're more important it to be lt, Q, B, G. They're going to move them to the back of the Alphabet. You watch. You watch every single. Gay. Gay guys, but also women, they don't like this. They're tired of this nonsense and they feel it's actually hurting the movement that they fought for for so long. Anyway, so the European Union decides to celebrate International Day Against Homophobia. And so they. They start raising a flag. And this is a very intricate flag. It's got rainbow colors and triangles and circles. And the first thing I thought is, there's no LGBTQ nation. I mean, can we just. Do they put up flags for anything next to nation flags? Is there not some flag rule against this?

[Adam Curry]

That's peculiar. And that newest flag with the circle and all the other gimmicks on there, I mean, the original gay community flag was kind of artsy. And this thing's just. It's monstrous.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's anything but artsy. So then I'm listening to this and I'm just like, this is an upside down world. So she's talking about conversion therapy, which was a thing probably during the first Trump administration.

[Adam Curry]

Who's talking about conversion therapy?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, this woman who's on Deutsche Welle, who you're about to hear, who was brought on to talk about the homophobia. It's the International Day Against Homophobia, and she's talking about conversion therapy. Now, if you don't know where conversion therapy comes from, I don't know if it's such a big thing anymore, but it was blown up into a big story. Oh, these church people, they're converting the gays, trying to make them straight.

[Adam Curry]

Is that any different than a teacher who's a non binary converting abnormal child at the age of eight into being trans? Is that different than that kind of conversion? That's kind of a conversion, isn't it?

[John C. Dvorak]

That's exactly my point. The difference being, I don't know if you can find a conversion therapy clinic in the phone book, but you can sure Google as a Planned Parenthood everywhere. Who's going to give your kid hormone blockers and anything else you want? No hormone therapy, whatever. Converse. So you can look at conversion therapy either way. So when I was listening to this, for a moment there, I thought, thought, what is she talking about? And then I was like, holy cow. Today, many people around the world are.

[Adam Curry]

Marking International Day Against Homophobia, Biphobia and Transphobia Day dedicated to raising awareness of rights. Phobia.

[John C. Dvorak]

What?

[Adam Curry]

When did biphobia show up?

[John C. Dvorak]

The buyers were like, hey, hey, hey.

[Adam Curry]

Everybody's getting no phobia against us.

[John C. Dvorak]

I want some phobia.

[Adam Curry]

I want some phobia.

[John C. Dvorak]

I want some biphobia.

[Adam Curry]

Today, many people around the world, world, are marking International Day Against Homophobia, Biphobia and Transphobia dates.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is new. You're right. Good catch. I didn't Hear that? When I was clipping it. Biphobia. I have never seen a biphobia person. In fact, most guys like, hey, woman, you're biphobic. You're biphobia. Okay.

[Adam Curry]

Dedicated to raising awareness of rights and of rights violations in 2025.

[John C. Dvorak]

The mixture, the picture is mixed.

[Adam Curry]

Some countries are embracing marriage equality while others are criminalizing LGBTQ identities. This picture from what's happening in Brussels. A celebration after 1 million signatures for.

[John C. Dvorak]

What are you doing? Do you have Tourette's?

[Adam Curry]

This guy is driving me nuts with his uhs.

[John C. Dvorak]

Just listen to the message.

[Adam Curry]

A ban on conversion therapy. Joining me on the set is Flora.

[John C. Dvorak]

Bolter, co director of the LGBTI Platform Observatory at the Jean Joris. Now, hold on a second because now I'm confused.

[Adam Curry]

Do they have a telescope at the observatory?

[John C. Dvorak]

Now? She's not an LGBTQ observer, she's an LGBTI observer, which confused me.

[Adam Curry]

Signatures for a ban on conversion therapy. Joining me on the set is Flora.

[John C. Dvorak]

Bolter, co director of the LG LGBTI Observatory at the Jean Joras Foundation. Hello to you, Flora. First of all, your reaction to those images. Just bear with it. We're seeing.

[Adam Curry]

Sorry, yes, in Brussels.

[John C. Dvorak]

And also a brief explanation of what.

[Adam Curry]

Conversion therapy is and why the UN wants a global ban.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, so they want a global ban. The eu, and I guess you said un, but I think it's about the eu.

[Adam Curry]

No, I thought un.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, but he just misspoke. The guy can't talk. That's why he's on the news. News.

[Adam Curry]

It's EU and they want to. Okay, global ban, eu, un, same thing, whatever.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

So what is the.

[John C. Dvorak]

They want to ban?

[Adam Curry]

What? Why? Who cares?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, yes, well, conversion therapies, so called therapies, are practices that are meant to change someone's sexual orientation or gender identity. Isn't that exactly what we're talking about?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, that's what they do in the. In the grammar schools nowadays.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, this is. I was thinking, Jacques, which of course.

[Adam Curry]

Does not work and there is no reason why it would be a better thing. But socially, some people feel pressure from.

[John C. Dvorak]

Society, from their parents and features. This is. But thank you. This is exactly what I was thinking. Like, you're talking about the stuff you're doing. Pressure from society, from their parents, and frequently people are forced into these therapies and they're very harmful. And we've recognized that they are harmful.

[Adam Curry]

They're afraid.

[John C. Dvorak]

Has been a decision by the European Parliament a few years back. And in France, there has been a law since 2022 banning these practices. And the idea is that every country.

[Adam Curry]

Should have a ban in place on.

[John C. Dvorak]

Those practices because they are harmful. There is no positive outcome of these practices. They are not therapy and they do not convert anything. Or you know, they don't.

[Adam Curry]

Well, then why worry about. Why worry about it?

[John C. Dvorak]

Exactly.

[Adam Curry]

But they don't convert anything, doesn't do any good. So why ban it? Who cares?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, here's the reason as she decloaks in the second clip.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

And this comes at a time when a lot of activists or experts have been noting gradual improvement for accepting and protecting trans rights worldwide.

[Adam Curry]

But now there seems to have been a shift.

[John C. Dvorak]

Some are saying it's a normal normative shift. Why is there a shift? Whoa. John C. Dvorak. Why is there a shift? What possibly could be the cause of said shift?

[Adam Curry]

Shift.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, there's a shift. They're falling back. There's more. Conversion therapy. People are against trans. Yes, they're against.

[Adam Curry]

I haven't noticed it. Have you?

[John C. Dvorak]

You don't get out of the house. You're in California.

[Adam Curry]

Well, in California we got none of that stuff. Exactly. Well, there is a shift because there are, there is a concerted offensive.

[John C. Dvorak]

Certain actors, certainly actors.

[Adam Curry]

Hold on, I thought Hollywood was all in on this. How can she say that?

[John C. Dvorak]

I think that I believe is when you use terms like that, that means you're maybe, I don't know if that's elitist or if that's possibly, you know, there's, there's a reason where they, where they use those terms asserted offensive by certain actors, certainly actors in Russia that was very, very clearly one of main.

[Adam Curry]

International arguments about the decline of the West. The so called decline of the west.

[John C. Dvorak]

Was basically that LGBTI rights were recognized in the US and in Europe. And this has been part of an offensive against these rights. And now we're seeing the same offensive from the US from Project 2025 and from, and from President Trump. So the American Heritage foundation and other ultra conservative groups have been pushing these.

[Adam Curry]

So called values and these arguments forward using science.

[John C. Dvorak]

And internationally they have gained momentum and that is feeding into the global illiberal backlash that we are seeing in many countries.

[Adam Curry]

And that is indeed, we're all thinking.

[John C. Dvorak]

About Romania and other, and other countries, countries where this is an issue today. This is part and parcel of, of the current far right populistic movement in many countries in Europe. And, and this is a major problem. It's, it's political. They're, they're trying to like it works so well in America where we abuse LGBTQI plus people for political gain. Let's use it everywhere. But I mean, Romania, Romania is because Is the. Have you heard anything about the front runner in Romania being.

[Adam Curry]

Well, they.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I think.

[Adam Curry]

Isn't Romania where the guy. Where a right winger won and then they.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, they kicked him out.

[Adam Curry]

And they kicked him out because it wasn't the right political persuasion?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. So they're there. This is the Hill. The Democrat party in America will die on is now spreading. They're like, oh, this is a great idea. Idea. Let's get those people together. She is clearly some kind of like, just like the state, just like the usaid, you know, like, hey, let's, let's get some people to protest, make it to tell them that these guys are homophobic. And then we get a lot of people that turn out a lot of allies. It's, it's worthless and it's disingenuous and it actually abuses people. People. They're totally abusing people. No, you know, Donald Trump hates you. Okay.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, but wait, that's exactly what it is.

[John C. Dvorak]

But wait, there's more. Because if you didn't think Donald Trump was a racist, well, you will now. Msnbc, this morning, they laid it all out because, you know, he doesn't care about black people. People. He only cares about white people. Hey, there's lots of black people in Africa. Who does Donald Trump save? Only the white people. Is President Trump's cruel deportation campaign aimed at.

[Adam Curry]

Cruel. Actually glad. I'm actually glad you got this because I never did get clips that I. Yes, this is a classic.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. Cruel deportation. As President Trump's cruel deportation campaign aimed at removing millions of immigrants. Immigrants from the United States, poor immigrants, millions of them. Not illegal here or just immigrants. The President is making an exception for.

[Adam Curry]

One group, white South Africans.

[John C. Dvorak]

Unlike the Trump administration's treatment of other immigrants.

[Adam Curry]

Ludicrous.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's fantastic. Especially those from Latin America and our Afghan allies that he's kicking out of sometime soon. The President gave a warm welcome to dozens of white South Africa Africans this week. He's also expediting refugee statuses for the group, which he says includes victims of racial discrimination. The move comes after his decision to freeze refugee admissions from other nations and cut off resettlement funding with black people. So we have back with us former United States Ambassador to South Africa Patrick Gaspar is back with us to discuss. You were former ambassador there. Can you talk about what he is describing as persecution? I will, you know, I'll say a couple of things first, you know, when, when I come on shows like this, I'm Trained to kind of retain my anger. He's who? Is he trained by?

[Adam Curry]

What?

[John C. Dvorak]

He says I'm kind of trained to retain my anger when I come on shows like this.

[Adam Curry]

Trained by who?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, that's my question. He was an ambassador, so he was trained by somebody. I will, you know, I'll say a couple of things first, you know, when, when I come on, just a white guy.

[Adam Curry]

A black guy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Black. Black guy. Black guy.

[Adam Curry]

Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah. Trained to kind of retain my anger. It's hard to do that on this. On this issue. I'm absolutely furious. There are a number of things that are going on here. Trump is playing to a domestic.

[Adam Curry]

I'm retaining. I'm kind of retaining. I'm going to keep my anger back, but I'm furious.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, there are a number of things that are going on here. One, Trump is playing to a domestic US, France, political audience, which I'll talk about in a second. Yeah. The Afrikaners in America. There's a geopolitical impact because there's an attempt to punish South Africa for the posture that is taken internationally on the war in Gaza and its claims against Israel. And Trump is very clear about this. Oh, yeah. Need to punish South Africa in that regard. But there's a third thing that's happening. Donald Trump is the master of destruction, and he knows that while we're having this conversation, we're not talking about the prices that are going up for average Americans in Walmart. And he loves that. I thought that was the best.

[Adam Curry]

The price is going up in Walmart to screw the black American.

[John C. Dvorak]

So then K part comes in. Oh, God, I, I could not resist because this just went to a whole nother level. If you are of a certain age, you remember the anti apartheid demonstration that were happening all over the country and particularly on college campuses. And to see, here we are, you know, several decades hence, Afrikaners are being given refugee status and coming to. Being brought here to the United States. We knew exactly the signal that President Trump was sending when he did that. Oh, they knew what the signal was. It was a signal, John. It was a signal. It was. It wasn't any concern for anything. It was a signal. Absolutely, Jonathan. You and I are old enough to have participated. Absolutely, Jonathan. Those demonstrations, Right. So the first time I ever went to South Africa was 1991, and I got to observe Nelson Mandela's vision for a rainbow nation. I lived three and a half years in South Africa as ambassador, and I've seen white and black South Africans and colored South Africans working every single day towards the affirmation of that vision. I talked to my white South African friends all the time and they think it's bizarre that this is occurring now. This isn't. They can't recognize their country that's being described by Donald Trump. I will say that they're, you know, white supremacy has never lived in isolation. It has always and ever. Did you see how quick that went? Did you see how quick that went? That went from the Rainbow Coalition in South Africa to white supremacy being described by Donald Trump. It's very good. He had to contain his anger so he could get to this bit there. You know, white supremacy has never lived in isolation. It has always and ever thus will be a global phenomena. And there is a conversation that's taking place from the United States to South Africa to, to Australia, to. In Europe.

[Adam Curry]

What show is this?

[John C. Dvorak]

From msnbc this morning. This morning.

[Adam Curry]

Oh my God, it's almost over.

[John C. Dvorak]

Bear with me. Contain your anger. From the United States to South Africa to Australia, in Europe with fringe neo Nazi adjacent groups like fringe neo Nazi adjacent groups. How far removed are you? Are you a Nazi or not? You're a fringe neo Nazi adjacent.

[Adam Curry]

Hmm.

[John C. Dvorak]

Ok. All right. This is a new term states to South Africa, to Australia, in Europe with fringe neo Nazi adjacent groups like Afroforum that are promoting this notion of a white genocide. It is really instructive to see the President of the United States who is denying the plight, the struggle of Palestinians in this moment who are under siege. It's interesting to hear him use the word genocide when he's talking about a people who represent 7% of a population, have like 6, 70% of the land, have 65% of the senior management jobs in South Africa and whose unemployment ratio is like, you know, 1 20th of the unemployment ratio of blacks in South Africa. This is deliberate. It is signaling to his fringe MAGA cohort here in the US and sending a wide signal to those who are neo Nazi adjacent in other parts of the world. Hey, whitey, you're good here in America.

[Adam Curry]

This is, this is, you know, this irks me because I missed a clip. I'm gonna tell. This is gonna be the new segment of the show. John tells you the clips he didn't clip.

[John C. Dvorak]

You didn't even see this this morning. This was.

[Adam Curry]

No, no, but there's a previous clip I saw on MSNBC where they're going around about bitching and moaning about this, about these Africana farmers that they're coming over here, giving up all their land and coming over here because it's Racism. And, and of course there are clips of guys saying we should kill all whites. Yes, we got tons of those. But they go around the round the horn on one of these shows on msnbc. And the black girl, one of the black girls goes, I don't know why they're doing that. There's also a genocide going on in the Congo and they're not taking, no, they're not taking any of the black Congolese. And after she said that, one of the other black guys on MSNBC goes, no, no, no, no, you can't say that the white thing's not a genocide. They get all freaked out because she used the word genocide.

[John C. Dvorak]

Also genocide. But here's my question and I will address them in their native tongue. War sein mein Afrikaners. Weihebe wat reporter van Jlinorach. That was my Afrikaner once saying, where is my boots on the ground? Afrikaners.

[Adam Curry]

I don't think any Afrikaners listen to our show.

[John C. Dvorak]

Most I haven't. I'm gonna call Laura Logan today. She's a white South African. I'll ask her. She'll know. She's right down the street.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I think you should.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm going to say, what's the dealio? How's your agenda doing? Do you have no agenda now?

[Adam Curry]

What are you going to say to her?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, don't piss her off. We've already been that. We've already been down that road with Laura.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hey, Laura, please don't make me sue you, okay? You're my neighbor. So not a good idea.

[Adam Curry]

I don't want to sue them. A neighbor.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's just not a good idea.

[Adam Curry]

Well, since you brought up Capehart, I do have a couple of Brooks and Capehart things which I'm now seeing.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now I regret it. Now I regret it.

[Adam Curry]

This is, by the way, this is going to happen every single time.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is why people are running away from the show. It's from Cape and it's fault. I mean, I opened the door.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, so here's, here's they're talking about. They're on the Brooks and Capehart party this last Friday and they're going on and on and on about, oh, Trump's crazy, nutty trip to the Middle east and all the crazy stupid stuff he's doing.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And they're in agreement with everything, of course. And then they bring up the fact that somebody wants to do a reality TV show about immigration.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now, now this, I saw this on Instagram because, you know, people will send me an Instagram clip. And it's some dude going. Saying, literally this. You know, someone at Homeland Security wants to do a reality show so immigrants can compete for a green card. And I'm like, are you sending this to me as proof that someone said that? Because where does this come from? Have we. Do we know that anyone has actually.

[Adam Curry]

Been documented by who the producer of this show came up with this idea during the Obama administration?

[John C. Dvorak]

It's our idea. Exactly.

[Adam Curry]

It's an old idea.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's our idea.

[Adam Curry]

Our idea.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

So, but this beside the point for these clips, because they going back and forth, they throw it to Brooks. And this is the. We got to make sure to play. This is the BBC, the BNC on reality tv. Then I do the Ask Adam afterwards.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

And so you could play this. And this. This is the most indicting aspect of any. All the clips I've ever done for Brooks and Kate part. This tells me everything I need to know about why these. We don't want to listen to Brooks or Capehart. They're not. They're disconnected from the. From the real world. They don't care about anything but themselves. They're obviously in the cocktail set and brought. Floating around Washington, D.C. because Foggy Bottom, Foggy Bottom. This is actually unbelievable.

[John C. Dvorak]

And then finally, on the game show or whatever, the reality show, I have to confess, like, American Degree. I've never seen a reality show in my life. So you've never seen a single reality show in your life? David Brooks? I have not seen the Housewives of Bethesda, Maryland. I have not seen Love is Blind. I did not see Duck Dynasty. It's just not. I'm bad with emotional drama.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, so we have someone who has never seen the reality shows, have been on the air for what, 20, 30 years now, ever since Survivor.

[John C. Dvorak]

Way before that, MTV's Real World, I would say.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, there you go. It goes way back.

[John C. Dvorak]

The first. The first real big one was the Osbornes. That was really. That was 2002.

[Adam Curry]

So we've gone 20, over 20 years of these things. And. And he doesn't watch them because of the emotional baggage that he, you know, because. Because, for example, he's gonna not going to be able to take the emotional effect of Duck Dynasty is going to bring him to his knees. He's going to be crying like a baby. I don't know. Whatever the case is, I don't want to listen to anything. I don't think you should be all jacked up about pop culture, but can you just watch? You don't Know what you're talking about. If you don't even watch one reality show in 25 years and there's thousands of them by now, you don't actually.

[John C. Dvorak]

Believe this douche, do you?

[Adam Curry]

Yes, I do.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, please. Oh, he's.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, well, let's go to Capehart. And now I'm gonna ask the. Ask Adam right off the bat, has Capehart ever watched a reality show?

[John C. Dvorak]

Do I answer before the clip or after the clip?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, you answer before the clip.

[John C. Dvorak]

Answer the question.

[Adam Curry]

Question, go.

[John C. Dvorak]

Not only has he watched a reality show, I predict in this obviously short clip of 10 seconds that he will tell us his favorite reality show.

[Adam Curry]

Ask Adam gets one point.

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean, I've watched reality television shows. Okay, well, one. RuPaul's Drag Race, which is a fabulous, fabulous, fabulous reality show. And I could have guessed that one. Crap. I could have gone for an extra poor point and I could have gotten it, obviously.

[Adam Curry]

Now back to your. Your point about you think Brooks is a liar. Why would you lie about something like this when it puts you in an awkward position of, of being a. Yeah, he's a douche. But why would you say that? I've never watched a reality show, and now I'm going to comment on, on, on pop culture. I'm going to comment on. On world affairs. I'm going to comment on this and that. Why would you put yourself in that position by lying about never watching a reality show? It makes no sense because I don't believe he's ever show. But I do believe, I do believe, do believe that that Cape Hart watches. Watches with relish. RuPaul's Drag Race.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think he's lying because he, he moves in super elitist circles. I've been in these circles where they would never ever admit to watching. So I've been in circles like this parties. And this is when I was back in the MTV days. I don't know how you get. You get, you get mixed up in these things. People say, oh, hi, I don't watch mtv. Who are you? I'm sorry, you're like, you do something. I don't watch cable. Seriously. Those are the days. I don't watch cable. Yeah, you're watching Channel J. I know what you're doing. You're watching. What was that guy? Disgusting George wasn't his name. The guy who would walked around with a camera and a satellite dish on his head and would pick up pretty girls on the streets of Manhattan. What was his name?

[Adam Curry]

There's a bunch of shows I don't remember that Guy's name something George. My favorite one was the extra E is for extra P or whatever it was.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know about that one.

[Adam Curry]

The public. Whatever it was. In New York City, the. What's it called? Cable access. The access channel, whatever it is, was rude.

[John C. Dvorak]

In New York, it was the Robin Bird Show.

[Adam Curry]

Robin Bird. There's another one.

[John C. Dvorak]

Come on, baby, bang. My box. Yeah. Ugly George. Yeah, it is the Ugly George. Hour of Truth. That's who it was. Ugly George.

[Adam Curry]

And then there was what's it. Was it the guy who ran Facta magazine? And he was. Had a show and all he did was cuss out everybody.

[John C. Dvorak]

He was the screw guy.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Screw magazine guy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Screw magazine.

[Adam Curry]

Gold fart.

[John C. Dvorak]

It wasn't Goldstein.

[Adam Curry]

It was something like Goldstein. All he did was, yeah, just say F you. And he named a company Al Goldstein. Goldstein. That was one of the better shows.

[John C. Dvorak]

That was the TikTok of the day, baby. That was good stuff. That was really. That was dynamite stuff. Dynamite. Anyway, yes, I believe that he's lying. And. And. And these people are all stupid.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I. I don't. I. I disagree. But okay, I agree to disagree.

[John C. Dvorak]

I agree to disagree. Sure. Okay. All right. Well, I'm. I'm spent now. I don't. I don't know what to say. Where do we go? What you got?

[Adam Curry]

Well, we got some global warming in Texas.

[John C. Dvorak]

We went from. From, let's see, it was Monday. Was one. No, we went Sunday, was. I'm sorry, one week ago. Saturday was 55 degrees. By Monday it was 105. Then we had a couple days in the 80s, and now it's down to a nice cool 75. Is that global warming?

[Adam Curry]

You've been in Texas long enough to answer this question?

[John C. Dvorak]

Fifteen years, I'd say, is the time I've been in Texas.

[Adam Curry]

That make it. Does that. Can you say that? That's screwball. It's obviously global warming.

[John C. Dvorak]

Or is this Texas in 2012, when I first visited? 2012? No, it was 2010. I came to Austin for the first time. We had a meetup. It was 112 degrees.

[Adam Curry]

That sounds about right.

[John C. Dvorak]

And it was July. And okay. Yeah. And people went, don't you love it? Isn't it a beautiful day?

[Adam Curry]

The heat is on in Texas, where a spring heat wave has broken May temperature records in some parts of the state. And that is not the only place where heat is an issue. According to the national oceanic and Atmospheric administration, the planet's 10 warmest years since 1840, 50, have all occurred in the past decade.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, of Course it did. So we did.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, wait a minute. The 10 warmest years were in the last 10 years.

[John C. Dvorak]

This was 15 years ago.

[Adam Curry]

Every single year for the last decade has been the warmest.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, it's just not true. I've been here. It's not true. But actually. But I do like that they're saying global warming. We did have a heat dome for a day or two. That's what. That's where the 105 came from, was just no window wind. And actually, when the heat dome moves on and the wind kicks up, that's when everyone gets nervous. Oh, man, it's dry. And the wind. And if there's one dude smoking a bone somewhere and boom, the whole place goes up, we'll burn up.

[Adam Curry]

Adelita Cantu lives in San Antonio, Texas.

[John C. Dvorak]

Where it is currently sweltering around 100 degrees. Oh, sweltering 100 degrees, which is nothing. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

I've been to Texas enough to know.

[John C. Dvorak]

That I wear my hoodie in 100 degrees when I wear Walk the Dog. And it's humid, too. So even though we may be. No, no, I'm sorry. It might be humid in Dallas or Houston, but not here, not in the Hill Country. So even though we may be, like, hit 100, it's going to feel like 100. 5,000 degrees. Texans are definitely not.

[Adam Curry]

Wait, hold on. Stop it there. 100. It's going to feel like 100. That's not what humidity does. If it's real humidity.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, it makes it feel humid.

[Adam Curry]

You're in Florida. It's 90. Well, actually, let's forget go to the Midwest. Go up to Chicago. Chicago, it's 90 with high humidity. It feels like it's 200 degrees. It's terrible.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

I've been in New York once where it was so humid.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, you want to puke? You walk outside that.

[Adam Curry]

I had to change my clothes twice in one day.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's going to feel like 105. 100. Texans are definitely not strangers to heat.

[Adam Curry]

But Cantu is a public health nurse.

[John C. Dvorak]

At the University of Texas Health, San.

[Adam Curry]

Antonio, and she knows that heat like.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is particularly dangerous when it comes.

[Adam Curry]

Early in the heat season.

[John C. Dvorak]

Where is this? Where are these clips from? What journalistic organization has put this together?

[Adam Curry]

I believe these are NPR without any favor. 2024 being the hottest year on record so far, and experts say heat this early in the year can be especially risky. NPR's climate desk reporter, Alejandra Barunda explains why.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hold on a second. But I want to be at the climate. I want to Be at the no agenda climate desk. I'm here, in fact, I'm sitting behind the no Agenda climate desk.

[Adam Curry]

And it's not just Texas. This is increasingly a problem across the United States. Tess Whiskel is an emergency physician at.

[John C. Dvorak]

Harvard University outside of Boston.

[Adam Curry]

She has seen the emergency room fill up during early season heat waves.

[John C. Dvorak]

Even when the temperatures don't seem super high, you tend to see outdoor workers getting sicker faster and we tend to.

[Adam Curry]

See athletes and other people like that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wiskel says that happens because people's bodies.

[Adam Curry]

Haven'T yet gone through a process called acclimatization that can take a couple weeks of heat exposure as bodies make some key changes. It will sweat earlier to help cool.

[John C. Dvorak]

You off when you're acclimatized. Your whole blood volume is going to change when you're acclimatized. And all of these things help protect.

[Adam Curry]

You from heat so early in the year.

[John C. Dvorak]

A lot of people's bodies haven't done that yet.

[Adam Curry]

That means a higher risk of heat.

[John C. Dvorak]

Exhaustion, heat stroke, even heart problems. What are we, reptiles? What does climatized body? We live in air conditioning lady.

[Adam Curry]

Here's the funny thing about it. What difference does it make when the temperature goes from whatever it is to hot?

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm not climatized yet.

[Adam Curry]

If it happens in the spring, is it more dangerous than if it happens like in the late spring or in the beginning of summer or in the middle of summer? What difference does it make?

[John C. Dvorak]

It's actually been such a beautiful spring. It's been very cool, we had a lot of rain, everyone's real happy. But when I call Laura Logan about the South Africanus, I'm going to say Laura, are you climatized yet? And I'm sure she'll have an answer for me. This is, this is. You know, the more I hear these clips because clearly no one is believing this anymore. I mean this you look at Instagram used to be that if you did a climate change joke it would be taken down. I mean there's comedians doing jokes about climate change. It's become a punchline. Almost no one believes in climate change other than climate changes all the time. Whatever, no one believes in it. So you have to think that some of that sweet, sweet climate change money is going to outfits like npc pr. There must just like pharma. There's got to be money flowing into it. You can't tell me they're actually interested at the climate desk. Well, the climate desk is interesting because without climate change there's no climate desk. But that These, these, these news models that they're saying they're like, oh yes, this is, this is riveting. I need to learn about climatization of the Texans. You don't even care. You hate Texans. It makes no sense. Sense other than money, money, money. Well, anyway, thank you for coming to the climate desk. As part of the climate desk, you know, I always investigate what we can do to stop evil, nasty fossil fuel burning. To mobilize ourselves. Because when we're climatized, we can't be mobilized. So we need battery cars. And what is the big drawback of battery cars? I've had it because I once borrowed a Tesla to drive to College Station. It's called range an. If you run out of juice in an ev, roadside assistance is available in the form of mobile charging. Our main thing is to get you on the go.

[Adam Curry]

We get you on the go, you can make it home.

[John C. Dvorak]

AAA is adding to its roadside assistance program with a mobile charging fleet that's free for members. We call aaa. We sent out one of our vehicles that has the equipment to charge your vehicle. The service takes between 15 to 30 miles minutes, depending on how much juice you need. So I'm gonna give our vehicle some power. The roadside Service has Level 2 chargers with adapters for any electric vehicle, Tesla and then non Tesla. It's that easy. And I'll run it straight to your vehicle. I'm gonna just plug this in. That shows that it's giving it a charge. We get you enough to go about 20 miles maybe to get home or enough to the closest charging station. We'll check to make sure that they.

[Adam Curry]

Have a good enough charge.

[John C. Dvorak]

We'll follow them to the closest gas stations just in case. EV manufacturers like Toyota, Ford and Tesla also offer mobile charging roadside assistance. The programs vary a bit depending on the automaker, so you just need to.

[Adam Curry]

Make sure to ask about it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Triple A still gets more calls for gas refills, but is seeing a definite uptick in mobile charging.

[Adam Curry]

It says it will add the mobile.

[John C. Dvorak]

Charges to their trucks as needed to keep up. Guys, with driving into the future. Back to you, here we go. Range anxiety. As though we need it anymore. Now missing from this report. I mean if, yeah, if you run out of gas and I've run out of gas in my life, you know.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, everybody has.

[John C. Dvorak]

And someone guy comes along, he's got a little. And you're, you're grateful. Thank you. I'll have you on the road in no time.

[Adam Curry]

You see a can of gas, you need a gallon.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I'LL have you on the road in no time, Mr. Curry. Thank you for being a AAA member. How does it work with this? I'll have you on the road in about three hours, Mr. Curry. Just sit back and relax. Do they have some supercharger in this truck all of a sudden? They have a huge capacitor that just blows it in.

[Adam Curry]

Well, they get to max whatever it is.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's in a truck.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it's not going to do much. They said he'd get you 20 miles. They give you a 15 minute crappy charge and you're on your way. Which reminds me, I had to give a.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's on your way to go wait three hours somewhere else. Okay.

[Adam Curry]

I have to, I have a car report.

[John C. Dvorak]

A car report. Oh, nice.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, so I had to take my, my old 20 year old Lexus into the dealer to have some work done. It has a bunch of expensive stuff to do.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now when you show up, do they, do they. Are they snickering at you or they.

[Adam Curry]

No, nobody snickers at this car because it's so pretty.

[John C. Dvorak]

They say, wow, there's that guy with.

[Adam Curry]

That classic, that old car. Well okay, what does he want?

[John C. Dvorak]

That's the same guy I see at the bank with that stack of $2 checks. That guy's a millionaire. Amazing.

[Adam Curry]

So the Lexus, one of the little benefits, you get a loaner. Free loaner. And so I got a loaner and I got the, the, I guess it's the UX300H or. No, it's actually probably. Yeah, it's one of the 300. So 300H, it's a 300 liter or 3 liter hybrid. It's the hybrid. A brand new car.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

I have to say.

[John C. Dvorak]

Are you saying hybrid or hybrid?

[Adam Curry]

I always say hybrid.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's not hybrid, it's hybrid.

[Adam Curry]

I like hybrid better.

[John C. Dvorak]

You do you?

[Adam Curry]

I've got this car, it's a battery car with a motor which I think is fine.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

I don't know how people can drive these new cars. I will say this, it's faster, it's smoother. This, the ride is better. I was coming back, I'm looking at the speedometer, I'm doing 90 in a 60 zone.

[John C. Dvorak]

And I'm thinking there's that guy with that old Lexus and the stack of $2 checks. He's doing 90 and a 60. Pull him over.

[Adam Curry]

So, but it's the beeping and the booping and the radar and the lights going on here and there. It's got too many the gizmos and the crazy knobs and buttons and the. Then the screen with all the stuff going on. It's the nightmare. And I would say that anyone who drives a modern super new car they. I think they're gonna develop a lot of bad habits. For one thing you never look to see if there's a car coming. If you're gonna change lanes because it's got the.

[John C. Dvorak]

You can't. There's too many blind spots on these things. You look at the little.

[Adam Curry]

There's a lot of blind spots. They got the little radar thing. So you get a little light in the corner of your mirror says yeah there's a car here.

[John C. Dvorak]

Don't.

[Adam Curry]

Don't. No no. And so on both sides. Sides. Which is fine. It's great. It works. And then of course the car. I was backing out of the driveway with this car and then. And somebody drove. Was driving up the street. Of course the car breaks. It just slams on the brakes and stops me as if I was going to run in.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh yeah. Yeah. Well that. That can be handy if you're looking at your phone.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. I suppose it would be.

[John C. Dvorak]

If you're looking at your phone which.

[Adam Curry]

Is in the drawer. There would be some. Some 000ft. But I. I really think it's gonna. People develop bad driving habits with these. With these cars. They're beeping at you constantly.

[John C. Dvorak]

I completely agree that there's. And by the way I see a lot of people looking at their phone in the car. Because these cars will keep them in. In the lane.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. That's another thing.

[John C. Dvorak]

And they'll break. And they'll break automatically. I'm not worried about it. It'll just break and it'll be fine. It'll all be groovy. It'll be good. It's all good to go man. It's. Yeah. There's a lot of beeping and booping in the cars. I agree.

[Adam Curry]

Beeping and booping. It just never ends. I even gunned it once. The car goes faster than imaginable. It's got a good electric motors.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's because that hybrid kicks in.

[Adam Curry]

The hybrid. And so it shoots off and then it gives me a beep. A little beep of discontent. Oh beep. You go. You. No you shouldn't do that. Do that. Don't gun it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Speaking of hybrid this was an interesting little news bit I picked up from cbs. The Food and Drug Administration says it.

[Adam Curry]

Is planning to review its approval of a so called yoga mat chemical that's been banned in Europe but can be.

[John C. Dvorak]

A bread ingredient in the U.S. the agency previously approved.

[Adam Curry]

I always grind up my yoga mats in the bread.

[John C. Dvorak]

Bread ingredients in the U.S. the agency previously approved it to whiten cereal flour and improve baking bread dough. But advocacy groups have raised concerns about its potential health risks. For more on this and other health news, let's bring in CBS News digital reporter Alex Tin.

[Adam Curry]

Alex, what are the concerns with this.

[John C. Dvorak]

So called yoga mat ingredient? Yeah, so this ingredient, which is called ADA for short.

[Adam Curry]

I'm not going to try to pronounce.

[John C. Dvorak]

The long, longer name because I did not do too well in chemistry when I was in college, but. Well, let's give it a shot. Azodicarbonamide. You're the chemist of the group.

[Adam Curry]

I'd have to look at the writing.

[John C. Dvorak]

Just go. Just do ADA chemical. And it pops up on Wikipedia.

[Adam Curry]

Chemical.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Okay, so. And it has the. It's a bunch of balls. It's blue balls and there are some red balls and a couple of silver balls. Balls. There's a lot of balls.

[Adam Curry]

H. Azodicarb.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. A chemical compound. It is a yellow to orange red odorless crystalline powder sometimes called the yoga mat chemical because that's what you want in your bread. What is wrong with people? Da? Was a bread ingredient that is used in the United States essentially, as you said, to improve bread flour, sometimes used to improve cereal as well. There is some concern in other countries that when this ingredient is used in flour, it can break down into another chemical that for short is called SEM. I'm not going to try to pronounce the long name for that either, which might cause cancer. That's actually why Europe many, many years ago said that they would not allow the use of this chemical in bread in their country. In the United States, they have said that their studies, this is according to the FDA a few years ago found that the amount of this chemical that.

[Adam Curry]

Was showing up in the food supply.

[John C. Dvorak]

As a result of the baking process was too small, they thought to actually cause a cancer risk. What is going on?

[Adam Curry]

Secondary action, the semicarbazide and ethylcarbamate are the two things. One's urethra, methane. This is interesting chemical I'm looking at. It says the chemical itself is prepared with the treatment of urea with hydrazine.

[John C. Dvorak]

Urea. Isn't that what is urea?

[Adam Curry]

Ammonia compound. Yeah, yeah. It's like fertilizer. Why this ever gets discovered, they can use it. What is the point of using.

[John C. Dvorak]

Some guy went, hey, I got, I got an idea. Let's put this in the bread.

[Adam Curry]

Yoga mats Allowed to be added to flowers because of what reason?

[John C. Dvorak]

I think it's called bleaching.

[Adam Curry]

Subway and Wendy's decided they're not going to use it anymore and they're. It's a dough conditioner.

[John C. Dvorak]

Conditioner. Yeah, it's bleaching. It's a bleaching agent. This is. This is. I've heard about this being a huge deal that this is used to bleach dough for.

[Adam Curry]

Dough's already bleached.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think the United States is one of the few countries I believe that does this bleaching. And I've never understood why. Yeah, here it is. A synthetic chemical compound used primarily in the food industry is a dough conditioner and a flour treatment agent. Why do we need to condition the dough? Isn't dough just dough? Oh, it's added to bread and other baked goods to improve temperature, texture, increase volume. Ah, there it is. It's a volumizer. So it looks like you got more bread. ADA functions as a leavening agent by releasing gas when heated, which helps the dough rise. Oh my goodness.

[Adam Curry]

Sorry for making balloon bread, which is out of favor.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, none of this should be in favor. This is all horrible. This is not good. Good. Well, while we're on it, this is just nothing but bad news these days when it comes. Bad news, bad news. Meantime, in an alarming health trend as new research shows a rise in early onset cancers. In another alarming cancer report, I got.

[Adam Curry]

A follow up to this. Then younger adults and now researchers of.

[John C. Dvorak]

Course want to know why.

[Adam Curry]

According to the National Cancer institute, more.

[John C. Dvorak]

Than 2 million Americans between 15 and 49 years of age were diagnosed with.

[Adam Curry]

Cancer between the years of 2010 and 2019.

[John C. Dvorak]

Data shows the largest increases in breast, colorectal, uterine, pancreatic and kidney cancers. Dr. Arif Kamal from the American Cancer.

[Adam Curry]

Society joins me now with more.

[John C. Dvorak]

Doctor, thanks for taking the time. This is really important to talk about right off the bat. I'd like to have you give us.

[Adam Curry]

A little bit more about the findings.

[John C. Dvorak]

And of course that all important question. Do we have any idea why we're.

[Adam Curry]

Seeing an increase in these types of.

[John C. Dvorak]

Cancers, especially in younger people? Dr. Dvorak, do you have any idea. Is there anything that changed in the past five years that just might have caused this?

[Adam Curry]

You gotta look at the dates they gave us. Here is 210 to 2019 pre vax.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, is that what he just said?

[Adam Curry]

Yep.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. This is frankly alarming. We've never seen such a dramatic change age and the number of people being diagnosed with cancer ever before. Particularly when people think about cancer, they think about folks in their 60s and 70s. I don't this, he's talking like it's now.

[Adam Curry]

Let me, I think they fudged these dates. Yeah, let me hear that again in 2019.

[John C. Dvorak]

Uh huh. Let me go back a little bit here. 2 million Americans between 15 and 49 years of age were diagnosed with cancer.

[Adam Curry]

Between the years of 2010 and 2019. Data shows the largest increases in breast.

[John C. Dvorak]

Colorectal, uterine, pancreatic and kidney cancers. Dr. Arif Kamal from the American Cancer Society joined. It's very strange. They may have just thrown that in. You're right. Just to kind of throw us off, like, oh, that was, that was 10 years ago. So your report now is about something that happened 10 years ago, this doctor seems to be talking about now. Yeah. This is frankly alarming. We've never seen such a dramatic change age in the number of people being diagnosed with cancer. And I say that because if it was alarming, it would have been alarming 10 years ago. And we were doing this show not 10 years ago.

[Adam Curry]

It's not 2019 is only six years ago, but it's beside the point. It's six years ago. Six years is a long time.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, there would have been alarming reports then and there weren't.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, this is frankly alarming.

[John C. Dvorak]

We've never seen such a dramatic change age in the number of people being diagnosed with cancer ever before. Particularly when people think about cancer, they think about folks in their 60s and 70s. This is really people under of age, the, the age of 50. And if you look at these types of cancers, it's a mix of cancers.

[Adam Curry]

That can be screened like colorectal cancer.

[John C. Dvorak]

And breast, but others like pancreas cancer.

[Adam Curry]

And uterine cancer that don't.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think it's really important for people under the age of 50 to think about the 3B's is what I call them. So it's bumps, bleeding and burns.

[Adam Curry]

And so for bumps, you think about.

[John C. Dvorak]

Breast cancer and pancreas cancer, things that you might feel on your body that feel a little off. You should bring that up to your doctor. In terms of bleeding, kidney cancers and colorectal cancers can and lead to early bleeding that people might think is hemorrhoidal bleeding, but that should be brought up to their doctors.

[Adam Curry]

And lastly, burns.

[John C. Dvorak]

We know that skin cancer continues to go up, particularly melanoma. So paying attention to where you're getting burns, cutting down on that and pointing out abnormal lesions to your doctors is really important. And then the second part of this. And I'm curious about your clip. This is. It's. It's the women. According to this study, doctor, 63% of the early onset cancers were among women. Do we know why women are more affected? Yeah, a lot of theories right now. It's an overall trend not only for younger people, but we're seeing overall, women are being more diagnosed with cancer than men before. That's also a pretty remarkable shift. It used to be quite a bit more men were diagnosed in the last 20 years. We're not completely sure why.

[Adam Curry]

There are some hypotheses of unhealthy weight or diet or environmental factors.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's important more research is needed. But it is also important to remember that some of these things are screenable, like the breast cancer cancers. We're seeing that some of the rates of return back to mammograms after Covid have returned in some communities back to baseline levels, but not everywhere. So it's really important. Women out there start their mammograms at age 40 and go every year or every other year as well.

[Adam Curry]

You said after Covid. That's not between 2010 and 2019?

[John C. Dvorak]

Nope. By the way, Dr. Curry recommends thermography, not mammography. Then most women agree thermal. You can do thermal.

[Adam Curry]

You're not a doctor.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I'm not. I said Dr. Curry. Do you know Dr. Curry? I didn't say me. I said Dr. Curry.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Well, we have the same situation, only not with cancers, but with strokes.

[John C. Dvorak]

This morning, the number of young people experiencing strokes is on the rise. You hear about it, but you just.

[Adam Curry]

Never think this is going to happen to me. Last April, at just 23 years old.

[John C. Dvorak]

Ann Folk was folding laundry at home when she felt half of her body go. Half of my body was totally immobilized on the left side and on my.

[Adam Curry]

Right side, it felt like as if I was having a seizure that was uncontrollable.

[John C. Dvorak]

And then I also had a very severe migraine in my head as well.

[Adam Curry]

After a friend called 91 1, she.

[John C. Dvorak]

Was rushed to Endeavor Health Northwest.

[Adam Curry]

I think you're playing the second clip first.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm sorry, I didn't realize there were two.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, well, the. You're playing the one that's miswritten. That says Droke.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, because let me just tell you.

[Adam Curry]

But there's an actual clip that says stroke.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, just so you know, when I look at the. When you are talking about a clip I started.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I know what you do, but.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let me just explain it so people don't Think I'm a dummy because I keep. I've played two wrong clips here.

[Adam Curry]

No, this is true. Let me. Let me pre explain your explanation. Adam does. To make the show work, we have to. We cue each other. And Adam is looking for. When I start talking about a clip, he finds the clip before I'm finished with my sentence and usually has it queued up, ready to go. Yes, but he does it in alphabetical order, so. And he knows I make spelling mistakes because of the nature of the way I type.

[John C. Dvorak]

Just a few.

[Adam Curry]

And so. And I usually correct him, but sometimes I don't. And so he goes down the list and he sees Droak.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

And so he figures, okay, this is the clip it's gonna be. I'm gonna play this stroke clip. He didn't notice the two on there because he just took it for granted because he didn't see anything else. He didn't see a one, but there is a stroke one clip down below. And so that is. That's. We're codependent when it comes to making mistakes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Different strokes for different drokes, John. That's it.

[Adam Curry]

But. But this is the way. That's the only reason the show works as well as it does, because we. We're in anticipation, usually, which is why it's annoying when the. When the clean feed goes dead and I try to interrupt and I can't just call back to the earlier part of the show. So let's go to the original clip, which starts us off because there's a. There's a gotcha in there.

[John C. Dvorak]

And turn now to a GMA Health alert. May is stroke awareness month. And while most people think of strokes. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.

[Adam Curry]

I thought it was gay awareness month.

[John C. Dvorak]

Pride month.

[Adam Curry]

Trans. Of Awareness month.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't want to share my strokes with the pride. Or vice versa. That's unfair. Turn now to a GMA Health alert. May is stroke awareness month. And while most people think of strokes as something that affects older adults, the latest numbers show a troubling rise among young people. Chief Medical Correspondent Dr. Tara Narula is here to explain all this. Good morning, Dr. Narula. Good morning, George.

[Adam Curry]

That's right.

[John C. Dvorak]

Doctors are seeing more strokes in patients under 45. And the reasons may surprise you. You. And the reasons may surprise you. You're about to hear from two young women. Did you double that up?

[Adam Curry]

I doubled that up because the reasons won't surprise you. And she really never gives any reasons in. This entire report is bullcrap.

[John C. Dvorak]

In patients under 45. And the reasons may surprise you and the reasons may surprise you. You're about to hear from two young women, both in their early 20s, who never thought it could happen to to them. Here's their story. So the reasons may surprise you and we don't hear the actual reasons. Let me go. I'm guessing our next clip is Droke.

[Adam Curry]

ABC yes, the DRO one brings in some guy who kind of thinks maybe this, maybe there's no reasons. They're not surprising anybody this morning. The number of young people experiencing strokes is on the rise.

[John C. Dvorak]

You hear about it, but you just.

[Adam Curry]

Never think this is going to happen to me. Last April at just 23 years old and folk was folding laundry at home.

[John C. Dvorak]

When she felt half of her body go numb. Half of my body was totally immobilized on the left side and on my right side.

[Adam Curry]

It felt like as if I was having a seizure that was uncontrollable.

[John C. Dvorak]

And then I also had a very severe migraine in my head as well.

[Adam Curry]

After a friend called 911, she was.

[John C. Dvorak]

Rushed to Endeavor Health Northwest Community Hospital in Chicago where doctors confirmed she was suffering from a stroke from a blood clot clot on the right side of her brain. For Aubrey Hasley. She was just 22 when she too had a stroke last June.

[Adam Curry]

I had really loud ringing in my ears for a couple of seconds and I guess it kind of freaked me.

[John C. Dvorak]

Out because my balance was so off.

[Adam Curry]

And I was just falling over anytime I tried to stand up.

[John C. Dvorak]

Aubrey receiving care at the same hospital. Doctors performing a thrombectomy to remove a clot. Well now while most strokes still affect older adults, the latest CDC data shows a sharp increase in stroke related hospitalizations for people under 45.

[Adam Curry]

One recent report indicating a nearly 15%.

[John C. Dvorak]

Rise over the past decade. The same risk factors that you see in elderly, you also see it now in younger like high blood pressure, high cholesterol, more stress on the patient, long working hours. So we think this could, could probably, probably contribute to thoracin stroke. Could probably because of Ann and Aubrey's quick action.

[Adam Curry]

They're both now in recovery and doing well.

[John C. Dvorak]

Just be aware that it could happen to anyone of any age to definitely look out for those signs. The bottom line here, strokes can happen at any age. If you or someone around you is experiencing sudden numbness or having trouble speaking or difficulty walking, call 911 immediately.

[Adam Curry]

The faster you act, the better the outcome.

[John C. Dvorak]

Outcome, guys.

[Adam Curry]

Well, that was really eye opening. Thanks very much.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh really? I think.

[Adam Curry]

What was the. Hold on, what was the reason that will surprise You.

[John C. Dvorak]

There was no reason that surprised me other than blood clots. Seemed like blood clots.

[Adam Curry]

They throw this stuff in at the beginning of these reports and the reasons will surprise you. It's just a hook and it's bull crap. It's. These are the crappy mainstream media techniques that are old fashioned and should be. Should be abandoned. Why don't they just say it was because all these did they asked these two women if they had the vaccine and they had boosted. I mean I would like to know that personally.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm still stuck on it being Pride Stroke month. I mean I'm not questioning it's Pride Stroke month. I think I have an ABC stroke report as well. Let me see if it's the same Stroke is the leading cause of. Yes, the same. Okay, well you're no agenda show has. Has something to. To that may. May. May be part of it and you know this is Covid stuff. I'm sorry. None of us are over the trauma of it. We all know people who have gotten the vax. We know people who didn't take the vax. We knew people who still take the vax. We know people who regret taking. There's all kinds of people.

[Adam Curry]

It's every. The rainbow.

[John C. Dvorak]

It is the rainbow of vaccination. Do you remember former Pfizer Vice President Dr. Mike Yeaden? We played him.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, I do.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. And he was like yeah, this is probably not a good product and it's not great. So he is back on the scene and forewarned. It's not not nice to hear there has not been a pandemic. Dennis Rancourt's data shows that the all cause mortality evidence data did not increase at all in the run up to the declaration fraudulently by WHO of a pandemic. There is no public health emergency except that created by our governments. A inappropriate fraudulent PCR test was used to give people the impression that they had a particular disease where they didn't. There were all the normal diseases.

[Adam Curry]

Hold on, stop the clip. It's just this a summary of the no agenda show for the last five years.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, but then the second. Yeah, this is a summary. It's only a minute. And then he gives us the bad news. They didn't there were all the normal diseases. And then what happened was in three different ways people were treated badly through changed medical procedures that were imposed above the level of nation. Briefly mass ventilation of people inappropriately in hospitals that led to lots of deaths in care homes. Many people were given sedatives and respiratory depressants. Which led to their deaths. My PhD was specifically in that area of opiates and respiratory depression. And in the community, people were denied life saving antibiotics and died of bacterial pneumonia. There's your pandemic. There is no other pandemic. And based on this lie we were told that vaccines were coming our way and would be our savior. Two things, as I say. First, there's no pandemic. So you certainly don't need an experimental rushed medical interventions. But secondly, even if you did, as someone who's worked in the industry for over 30 years, I am telling you it's absolutely an impossible to invent, test, clinically evaluate and manufacture and then launch on global scale a complex biomedical product. It's absolutely impossible. It's not as close, it's years wrong. Okay, so that was indeed the summary right down to. Remember we went to Vegas for the super spreader event and there's that hospital there and all of the ventilator trainers, the people who train people and instruct them how to use ventilators. And they were telling, telling me like, man, I don't want to lose my job, but we're killing people with this stuff. We're doing it wrong. We're doing everything exactly the opposite of what we think we should be doing. So yes, that was a summary of what we discussed during COVID when people cared about us. Now we're just wrong about everything that was just wrong. You're wrong.

[Adam Curry]

Now we're wrong because of Ukraine.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wrong side of history, man. Yeah, exactly. But here comes the downer. The fastest record price of this was six years. And friends of mine, mine who've worked all their lives in manufacturing of complex biological products, tell me the methods. Development alone for the development of a reproducible manufacturing process itself takes a number of years. So whatever it is you think was done, I am telling you there was not the development of a proper medical product. What I think happened was the advancements of materials that are intentional, emotionally toxic, and then they were sketchily advanced and jammed into people's arms, often coerced, sometimes even mandated with the unsurprising effect that millions of people have died. So I think, having, having heard what I've just said, that there was no pandemic and the lie was maintained in order to inject people en masse. I think five and a half billion people with an intentionally dangerous substance, 17 million of whom have died so far. There you go. It's just a guy who used to be a vice president at Pfizer. Pay no attention to him.

[Adam Curry]

17 million. He says.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's what he says. Yeah. And I, I, I'm going to give.

[Adam Curry]

You a borderline clip for that.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know I will take a borderline clip. By the way we have next Sunday will be a best of clips of the day show of the Nova.

[Adam Curry]

And by the way. Oh that should be fun. Oh it's I will say this about the borderline I would have given you maybe clip of the day if it sounded better.

[John C. Dvorak]

If it sounded better. It was one of those zoom calls. Here's if President Trump would just say in hindsight. Hindsight I did everything that I was supposed to do. I got warp speed going. We, we, we rushed this out. It wasn't a good shot. You know he talks about the fat shot, this shot. If he would just say that he would endear so many people that I mean he would piss off a lot of people but it would bring clarity to the world. It'd be I'd be so much I'd prefer him to say those, you know five words words. It was a lousy shot then I care more about the Epstein or the JFK or honestly even if there's an ice wall at the edge of the flat earth firmament first maybe I, I.

[Adam Curry]

Believe it this not within his personality.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah I think do this.

[Adam Curry]

No I think you're right and I don't think that and the system is set up that would they would use that against him in some way or shape or form. They're already trying to make him anti American.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

As we discussed earlier and it's just not probably not a good idea. Well and and there's not in fact it's only outliers and I would put ourselves in that category who even bring up clips like the one you just played.

[John C. Dvorak]

And you know why that is? That's because we don't take advertisement advertising. That's the whole reason exactly why and with that I'd like to thank you for your current say in the morning to you the man who put the sea and climatize say hello to my friend on the other end the one, the only Mr. John C. Devorah.

[Adam Curry]

Hey in the morning you Ms. Ram currently Ms. Ship Steve Boots around feet in the air, subs in the water. The names and knights out there and all the dames and knights out there.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes 2294 listening live. We'll do it live. Hello trolls. That trolls are active today. They're good man. Actually those trolls in the trollroom troll IO they're listening on the modern podcast apps we Had a meetup yesterday and. And the girl who sings at our church was there. Holly. And I say, holly? She says, yeah. So what are you doing here? Well, I listened to the show. So. You listen to the show? It says, yeah, No, I heard about it and then I went looking on Amazon. What? You're not on, you're listening? Yeah, I have an Amazon podcast app. Okay. You need to go to podcastapps.com and get a real podcast app. My goodness. Yeah, I couldn't find everything. No, of course. Course not. They'll take stuff off. They'll even take episodes off. Like Spotify. They delete episodes all the time. It's a known fact. Is known, secret, secret, unspoken fact in the podcast.

[Adam Curry]

All this aggravation with all these extra podcast everything on there. I mean, they're not an archivist. I don't blame them. I take it off, too. If I was Spotify.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah, you'd be Swedish. So. Yeah, get a modern podcast app. It's a lot of fun. They're much better, you know, to alert you when we're going live. You can. You can't listen to a live stream on an Amazon podcast app. It's just not going to happen. Or on.

[Adam Curry]

What does she think of the show? She's now a listener.

[John C. Dvorak]

She loves the show in particular. The first thing she said is, is John coming?

[Adam Curry]

But she hasn't listened long enough.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I'm like, you're pretty new to the show, by the way. Let me just give you a quick meetup report. This was fantastic. This was a. At Bar 1776. That's Jenny the J Sixer. That's her bar. She also has the Full Moon. I think it's Full Moon bed and breakfast. Currently five rooms have been inhabited for over a year by paroled January 6th. People whose lives were destroyed. They were in jail for several years and of course came out and there's nothing left. And so she's taking care of them. And Matt and Gail Long, they organized this. They've been doing it. They're going for twice a year. Last one was in October. Many of the no agenda luminaries were there. And when I say that, I mean dirty Jersey whore. Sir Brian with a lie. Rob Ducifer, the Infowars producer with his lovely wife Trish. And they left their 18 human resources at home. Rob, the constitutional lawyer, who he. He's so. He's my height, you know, he's. He's beefier than I am. He has a big white cowboy hat on. And people like, oh, you're Rob, the constitutional lawyer. Awesome. I love him. Trinidad was there. Trinidad, he's. He's. He's kind of like a Bruno Mars type dude. He has all the. You know, he's of some Hispanic descent and he's got, you know, his shirts open, he's got gold chains, and he's got a cool hat. And he had this. He had a Polaroid, one of those modern Polaroids. You ever seen those? The tiny ones that you can pick up at some Gen Z store in China and taking Polaroids. And he said, oh, I bought a fire truck. Yeah, he bought a really nice fire truck. Like an og. Not an old school one, but the kind you see driving around in Manhattan. Yeah, I think it's going to be worth more than Bitcoin. Okay.

[Adam Curry]

And.

[John C. Dvorak]

And then Jamie and Alyssa, who were from Dallas, they came down. Young couple. They had not one, not two, but three trap babies. Honest to God, trap. One of the youngest was three weeks old. And, man, what a great family. You just look at them like, wow, that's America to me. Jamie and Alyssa, you guys of the best. And as an experiment, which worked out really well, Matt invited one of his buddies who has a. A barbecue outfit. He's got a. You know, he's got a. A real smoker with wood. Throws wood in there. He was burning. What was he burning? What's the. What's the nut tree? The pecan.

[Adam Curry]

Pecan, yeah. That's big in that area.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, pecan. And he did.

[Adam Curry]

Sometimes they use the shells.

[John C. Dvorak]

So he said, matt, the guy is not. He's no agenda listener now, but he'd never listened before. And Matt said, you're gonna do a barbecue, it's gonna be value for value. The guy's like, what's that? You just put the food out and the people will give you money. He's like, okay.

[Adam Curry]

And honor bar for barbecue.

[John C. Dvorak]

He did okay. I checked after he said he did okay. He was really. He loved it. He loved the value from Valium. All he thought was really great. And I'll tell Rob gave me a lowdown on this Supreme Court habeas corpus thing, which we'll talk about. Anyway, it was a great meetup. Thank you all for being there. Not a lot of people were donating in person. I think some of them will show up on the spreadsheet. These are all donors. Not a single one is not a donor. Well, one who was the guy who said, hey, man, I'm on a fixed income, but here's $5. I was very nice, actually. We got you Know the bio pros had given two bags of Bioseptic Pro, what you called the goo for your septic tank.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, you finally got some.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. And. And with a check for 222.22 which is five number twos. Got it. And two bags of bioseptic Pro for you to try. He says Bioseptic Pro is not a goofy John, but a powder that is activated when it comes in contact with water was created by a scientist who engineered the microbes and retired chemical engineer from Pittsburgh Plate glass who created the delivery medium. It's like probiotics for your septic tank and they're biopros.com sir Ducifer gave us each $20 cash. So I have an envelope for you. Send to the globalists in your wife, he said. In your life, he says. And we Both, both got $154 for the show. And from Gaucho Woodworking, Robert Stack from Gaucho Woodworking. He made us each a beautiful cutting board.

[Adam Curry]

I thought that they were in la.

[John C. Dvorak]

Somehow it got to Sir Ducifer. And this is. Now we've. We've gotten some cutting boards in the past. This one is. I mean yours has too many eggs on it ingrained in the wood.

[Adam Curry]

Well, that would be Mimi's then.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's for you. It's for you. And Tina is. Has promised she's going to send it off. So I'm going to send this to John.

[Adam Curry]

She probably will.

[John C. Dvorak]

She will. Yes, she will. She. She's like that. So that's just many ways that we. That we share in value for value. Another way that can be done is through the work that many people do, like organizing a meetup. Matt Long organizes meetups. Gotta love him for that. Or you could make some artwork for us. We love our art and the note agenda. Artists are always hard at work during the live show. Just. Well, some are hard at work. Some just type a lot like Darren o' Neill or. Or like Darren o' Neill. I was right. Who did the artwork for episode 1764 titled Rage Quit. Then this. This was. It looked like it was a cut out of a newspaper. No Agenda presents the JC TikTok JCD TikTok show by Curry and Dvorak. The latest hip videos deconstructed. And we just gotta admit, besides the fact that there's no white in these AI images which you correctly pointed out when you really. When you got it down like Darren, it's good. I mean it's getting hard to beat.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Except this again, it's part of the muddy complex.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And I've noticed this like even by the one I use. They use the. Please donate dog from comic strip blogger who uses AI and if you look at his which is right next to Darren's on the. On the. She me see that no agenda Korean Dvorak is in. Is kind of white, but it's not. It's kind of muddy white.

[John C. Dvorak]

You're right. Yeah. We want an explanation. Comics for blogger. Tell us.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I want an explanation from the AI have the a. They've got to do something about the. The dynamic range of these art pieces.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I don't think they can. It's just. It's like a.

[Adam Curry]

No, they got. They have to be.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's a copy of a copy of a copy. Just. It can't be done. It's done. There were a number of entrants. Let's see other things that we discuss.

[Adam Curry]

A lot of like the Rage quit one which I thought was funny by Darren. Also by Darren with the Muppet looking guy. It was supposed to be me, I guess I don't wear glasses.

[John C. Dvorak]

There was a lot of reparations for gingers was funny, but not really dynamite. Then a lot of airplanes with bows on it like Trump playing on it. I mean it still takes a good idea. You know, I don't care how much AI you have or if you do it by hand. You still need to have. You need to have a good idea. And you know, that's what Darren did. Was there anything else that we. That we had discussed we liked? I don't think so. Do you remember Toxic?

[Adam Curry]

It wasn't with the pick. It was Slim Pickens, I thought. And there's a lot of pieces that I think could have been used. But in terms of what we really were attracted to is very narrow.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's true, that's true. Anyway, no. ArtGenerator.com is where you can participate in this so called contest where we do it every single show. And we're very grateful to our artists in the no agenda nations. They can get monation. We also thank everybody who supports the show financially. And it's incredibly important that you do that. And I don't care if it's $5 a month, whatever you can afford. If you get value from the show, you should be sending value back to us. That's what has kept us going for more than 17 years now. So we'll thank everybody, $50 and above. And we do like to highlight kind of a Hollywood vibe that we've developed over the years, which is the executive and associate executive producers. Kind of like Hollywood, where if you actually pay a of lot, a lot of money, and we're not talking like millions of dollars, you know, we're talking $200 or above, then you get an associate executive producer credit and we'll read your note. And there's some long notes today. We try to make it a little short if possible. And $300 and above, you get an executive producer credit and we'll read your note. And both of these can be used as official Hollywood credits. People do it all the time. Including IMDb.com, universally recognized as the credit repository. And you can see there's over a thousand people who have opened up an account and legally and correctly added their executive or associate executive producer credit to it. So we'll kick it off with Ben Nytus. Ben's been around. San Francisco, California, 63933. And he says, John. Sorry, John. Sorry, John. The IRS hit me hard this year, so cooped. Oh, could only give you four silver ounces for the recent meetups. Did you get four silver ounces?

[Adam Curry]

You have four coins, four ounces each.

[John C. Dvorak]

Where's mine?

[Adam Curry]

Put it aside. You'll get it eventually.

[John C. Dvorak]

By the way, today? No, tomorrow. Do you know what tomorrow is? It's our anniversary. You know what the anniversary is?

[Adam Curry]

No.

[John C. Dvorak]

Five years since we last saw each other in person.

[Adam Curry]

You've been married for five years tomorrow. Yeah, I know where you put it.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's kind of. It's kind of messed up because I had a whole, you know, day and we're going to stay overnight in Austin. I'm going to have dinner at our restaurant. When we were. When we were, you know, dating.

[Adam Curry]

Did you have a fancy dinner last week?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, this is just Tina and myself. But she came down with. I don't know what it is. She.

[Adam Curry]

She has a. She has the. The coof.

[John C. Dvorak]

The coof. The goop. Coof. It's. It's just in her head. It's not. She has no body ache, but she's coughing and congested and, and, and we're traveling next weekend. So, like, I don't think we should go, which is a bummer. But yes, is. It is our.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, that sucks.

[John C. Dvorak]

It really does. We were looking forward to it. You know, you clear the decks, no meetings, no nothing, then this happens. So. But. So that's why I, I then remembered that's the last time we saw each other face to face. It's probably a good thing.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yes, definitely.

[John C. Dvorak]

Definitely. And he says, john, on your birthday, the Troy ounce was worth $33. The image of you rocking back and forth in the chair was too disturbing to imagine. I. I'm not quite sure what he's referring to here.

[Adam Curry]

Died. It was the. The. Your rage with the rage quit bit.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh.

[Adam Curry]

Remember?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. And he wants some chemtrails and fluoride in your cup. Is fluoride in my cup? There you go. You got some fluoride in your cup, brother.

[Adam Curry]

Andrew Gibbon in Darlington UK. 420. It's not 420, but maybe it came in at whatever. But he doesn't have a note. This came in over striping. No note. Which gives him a double up karma.

[John C. Dvorak]

And he's from the gbs.

[Adam Curry]

You've got double up karma.

[John C. Dvorak]

Which brings us to Jason Roman from Eatontown, N.J. 338.22. He says this is a switcheroo donation on behalf of our wonderful son Nicholas Roman, who graduated from Rutgers. Hold on a second. Let me make sure we get that switcheroo in there. Graduated from Rutgers University last week. Will soon be a dude named Ben. As if graduating wasn't enough to accomplish this, the 321 25+ fees donation also celebrates the birth of Nick's daughter and our first grandchild, Francesca Rose Roman, who came into the world on 3 hours, 21 minutes and 25 seconds. See, numbers are important. So what gift do you get for a young man who has it all? He's got a degree, he's got a kid, presumably a wife, of course a producer. Credit for the best podcast in the universe. We are so proud of the man he has become. Listening to the no Agenda podcast has been such a positive influence on him and has kept our family grounded and always seeking the truth. Remember, families that na together stay together. I love hearing that. I'd like to request some goat karma for him, his girlfriend Christine and the rest of the family for jingles. Can we have Trump? Massive dumps. I got that. That's for Nick. And two favorites of mine, Rule follower. And John's creepy. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Do you remember what we titled the yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. Trying to find it earlier and. Is it John? No, I can't. We. Do you know how many times we have a. Oh, I have it here. Okay. Whoops. I just found it. Here we go.

[Adam Curry]

They did dumps. They call them dumps. Big massive dumps. I'm a rule follower.

[John C. Dvorak]

So if the rule is that we have to do it, then I'll do it.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah yeah yeah yeah. No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no. And he ends by saying hope you guys can make it to the east coast for a meet up a few times before you wrap it up. Thank you for your courage. Four more years. Love is lit. J. Roman aka Mappy. Thank you Mappy.

[Adam Curry]

And we go to Bowman McMahon in San Antonio, Texas where it's 105.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

333.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

Here's a simple message. Thank you for your courage.

[John C. Dvorak]

He writes Nice era Dadarian Trabuco Canyon era back on the stick. $250 associate executive producership. Not his first. And says thank you for an outstanding product and thank you, we appreciate you. Era.

[Adam Curry]

Well that gives you the next one to read because it blows out my spreadsheet on my small monitor.

[John C. Dvorak]

Consider a larger monitor. ITM gents is Daniel Peruzzo from Courtenay. British score Columbia Candanavia. 23860 now is that. Oh that he's going to be moved up because this is indeed a 333.33 Candanavian donation not only to support the best podcast in the universe but also to help spread the word about a groundbreaking intervention.

[Adam Curry]

333. 33 is now 2:38 and 60 cents. Oh my God.

[John C. Dvorak]

He wants to help spread the word about a groundbreaking breaking invention with the potential to revolutionize energy production. I'm listening. Zero point Energy. This innovation could bring an end to endless financial drain of the climate agenda that will burden many future generations. Perhaps held an end to the never ending wars and bring real relief to those who need it most most. Dream on. My name is Dan Peruto. I'm a small time video producer in Courtenay BC. I recently did an interview with Dr. Andrea Rossi in Rome who has created a device called E Cats the energy cat catalyzer that produces electricity in self sustaining mode. You mean like a perpetual motion? Which means it can create energy without the need for fuel. This is based on the concept of lei your alley. I love this low energy nuclear reaction AKA cold fusion which is. This is awesome. Which was first introduced to the world in the late 80s by scientists Pons and Fleischman. But swiftly headed into the dustbin of control old conspiracy theories. Yeah yeah. John's rolling his eyes. You can find the video titled E Cat the new Fire on my website Solutions unincorporated dot com. Not my best work but I really wanted to get the word out that this tech is real and close to market. However I Do have concerns.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, it's all we by the way. Anti gravity any minute.

[John C. Dvorak]

Energy is a multi trillion dollar industry. I will assume those who control the sector would not care for this technology to see the light of day. Like many other inventions that have mysteriously disappeared right before the they hit the market. Think Nikola Tesla, Stanley Meyer, Tom Ogle, Yul Brown, Royal Rife. And the list goes on. My fears the same will happen to Dr. Rossi's e cat. Although he has secured investors and moved from development to manufacturing, I could easily see being tied up in bureaucratic red tape or being bought up by a. Jeez. By a shell corporation and filed away into the. Oops, how did that get lost drawer. Oh my God. How much more do you have here, Bro? Bro. Okay. Anyway. Ecat new fire on his website. Solutions unincorporated. I'll take a look for sure. No jingles. Good karma for all. And please call out our freshly installed prime minister Mark Carney as a douchebag. All right, brother. Thank you very much. I'm a fan. I'm a fan. You've got karma.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, I'm sorry.

[John C. Dvorak]

That was quite a long.

[Adam Curry]

All right. Onward with William messing in Vashon, Washington. 233. This is Associate executive producer donation for my lifelong friend, Sir Chris of Carmel. Please play a Reverend L Jingle.

[John C. Dvorak]

I got one. R, E, S, P, I C, T. By the way, I'm trying to read through the rest of that note that he sent that didn't fit on your spreadsheet or mine. He says, hey man, let me get Dana Brunetti to do a movie about him. Yeah, that would be quite cool. Brunetti. Brunetti, you're up, man. Okay, where are we? We are at Sean Homan. No, I'm about Baron Victor. I'm going to tell you about Baron Victor. Baron Victor. Baron Victor from Corvallis, Oregon. 231. Hello from Baron Victor of the Willamette Valley. I was just noting that I was first knighted on 3 20. 2012. I'm now a Baron and also a commodore. I wear my ring every day. Itm thank you, brother. And itm to you, Sean Homan in.

[Adam Curry]

Noblesville, Indiana to 1911. And he says. Book of Acts. Acts, acts, Acts. Chapter 5, verses 40, 42. Trust in his promise. So you should go read that.

[John C. Dvorak]

I have read it, actually.

[Adam Curry]

It has something to do with our donations.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, I completely trust in his promise. That's right. But he's saying it for you, so you can.

[Adam Curry]

He's saying it for me?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Yeah. He's trying to Bring you back to the kingdom, you lapsed Catholic. You people will try. It's what we do. It's the Great Commission coming in with $205.18. There he is, our supplier, the man who gives us the buzz. Eli the coffee guy. Bensonville, Illinois. The new sad puppy in the newsletter got to me. AI is taking over and it's even replaced the OG Sad puppy. What is the world coming to? He's got a. A point. Can I get some jobs? Karma for the start of another. Another great farmer's market season. Yes. To all producers in the Chicago land area.

[Adam Curry]

By the way, he goes to the big farmers market there.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, that's what is what you do. If you're serious, farmers markets are great. We have one here every Thursday.

[Adam Curry]

You know, I mean, we stop for a second.

[John C. Dvorak]

Are you going to say something about.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, the farmers markets around here, there's a couple of good ones. Most of them are a blatant ripoff. The one in Emory. No, it's in Kensington. That takes place in the morning of the show. There's just a couple of bakeries. There's like guys bakeries and other people there. And the prices are. The bakeries are the same as at the bakery, but the vendors of the strawberries and all the rest of it, they jack up the price. The farmer's market is supposed to be a way to get rid of the middleman and get a deal. You're supposed to get a deal if you go to Georgia. You go to Atlanta, Georgia. I've been to the farmers. Farmer's market there. It's like a good deal. You're not getting ripped off. You're getting the farmer's prices. These around here, especially in the San Francisco Bay area, I'd say the one at the Ferry Building and elsewhere and the one in Kensington, for example, are just a gyp. They're a ripoff. They add two or three bucks to the price because, oh, it's from the farmer. Bull crap.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, we have a farmer's market here, which is not bull crap, unfortunately. It's on Thursday, so I can never attend it. And when I was in Austin, I still miss farmer CR Chris. Farmer Chris with the eggs. I miss farmer Chris's eggs. To continue with Eli, the coffee guy, he says. So I hope, he says, to all produce in the Chicagoland area. Hope to see you at our tent sometime this summer and visit our website on the sochnet to see where we'll be. For everybody else a little further afield. Don't miss out on all the fun, visit Gigawatt Coffee Roasters.com and use code ITM20 for 20% off your order. Thank you for your courage and stay caffeinated, says Eli the coffee guy.

[Adam Curry]

This brings us to Stephen Anders, who's in Muan.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, Munich, Munchen, Deutschland.

[Adam Curry]

Here's the hot 200 bucks. He doesn't have a note, but so we'll give him a double up. Karma.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, we will send the note.

[Adam Curry]

You've got probably Stefan. Probably Stefan.

[John C. Dvorak]

Stefan. Stefan Anders in Munchen and last on the list. She's always on the list and we love her for it. Associate executive producer credit again, Linda lupatkin from Lakewood, Colorado. $200. And she. She wants jobs. Karma. And she reminds us all. For a faster job search with a resume that gets results, go to Imagemakers, Inc. For all of your executive resume and job search needs. That's Imagemakers Inc. With a k dot com. And work with Linda Lu, Duchess of jobs. And she is also the writer of.

[Adam Curry]

Resumes, Jobs, Jobs, Jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.

[John C. Dvorak]

I was talking to Sir Ducifer because he knows the pro. The. The probiotic was the bio. No. What is it? Not probiotic. What are they called? Thebiopros.com I said, does anyone buy this stuff? Oh, yeah. Is it gangbusters?

[Adam Curry]

What?

[John C. Dvorak]

From. From their donation. They've donated a couple times.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, you're talking about the goo tank crap.

[John C. Dvorak]

The non goo stuff. Septic tank. Yes, yes, the septic tank crap, John. Exactly. And he said, oh, yeah, people love it.

[Adam Curry]

Suppose if it works, they would.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I'm not putting it in my septic until I talk to Paul, the septic guy. Paul is.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah. You should always consult with the septic tank expert before adding stuff to your septic system.

[John C. Dvorak]

He will either say, wow, that's interesting, or get out of here with that nonsense.

[Adam Curry]

What if he says, give me a.

[John C. Dvorak]

Bag, I'll give him a bag. I. Two bags. I'll give him a bag. Straight up. Paul is no nonsense. He's like a Ted Nugent guy.

[Adam Curry]

Hey.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hey, man. Yeah, I went to see the Nuge the other day. Paul. Paul is an awesome dude.

[Adam Curry]

Anyway, Ted Nugent still not in the rock and roll hall of Fame.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, of course not. Because, you know, he's a Ted Nugent. Of course he's. And you know what? He. I think he refuses. They've invited.

[Adam Curry]

He refuses now because they won't let him in.

[John C. Dvorak]

Of course, once they let Millie. Once they let Abba in, it's like, okay. Why, thank you all very much to our executive and associate executive producers. You can become one, too, or you can just support us with any amount you want. At no AgendaDonations.com we appreciate seeing the value returned to us. Nice to see more people donating, not so much about more money. It's just let us know that you are alive, you have a heartbeat. We know there's a lot of people listening. Noagendadonations.com will thank people $50 and above in our second segment. And as always, you can just set up a recurring donation. Any AM Amount, any frequency, all up to you. We don't make a big deal about it. No hoops, no, no levels, no tote bags. None of that. Just go to noagendadonations.com and thank you for supporting us for episode 1765. Our formula is this.

[Adam Curry]

We go out, we hit people in the mouth.

[John C. Dvorak]

Ten trails.

[Adam Curry]

Shut up, slave.

[John C. Dvorak]

Shut up, slave. Shut up. Don't have a yes.

[Adam Curry]

I have a series of us. You know, our government versus Harvard.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, yes. Harvard. Harvard. Now, let me just recap. So this is really about President Trump saying, hey, you guys, you jacked up the prices on admissions. You got hundreds of billions of dollars in endowments. You don't any tax on it. You're a bunch of elitist globalists. I'm going to screw you for ideological reasons.

[Adam Curry]

How is he screwing them? He's just not giving them government money. It's a private institution. Why do they deserve government money? I'm saying this because I'm asking you.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, they don't, but I'm saying this because that's what was on the clip earlier. It's a callback, baby.

[Adam Curry]

So let's play this and see what. What's the complaint?

[John C. Dvorak]

The Trump administration's feud was not stopped.

[Adam Curry]

The clip already stopped. Another NPR hate non Trump clip.

[John C. Dvorak]

The Trump administration's feud with major American universities escalated this week. A federal antisemitism task force notified Harvard that $450 million of the school's research grants are being cut. And that's on top of the $2.2 billion it had previously frozen. Laura Barone Lopez spoke with one of the effective researchers, Jan Bruges, the director of H.A.R. harvard's Ludwig Cancer Center. Dr. Berger, you've been working for years on breast cancer research. Tell me, what type of research exactly are you doing and the type of progress that you've made in my lab. The ultimate goal of our research efforts is to find better ways to detect and destroy cancer in its tracks. And the breast cancer research Project that is funded by a National Cancer Institute grant that is currently frozen, specifically aims to identify and profile the earliest precursors or harbingers of breast cancer before these precursors become cancer. Oh, they're doing important work.

[Adam Curry]

National Cancer Institute Fund. Is that so? In other words, that doesn't really exist. That's just government money. Is that what you're saying?

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm not sure. Sounds like it.

[Adam Curry]

So 400 million bucks is not going to Harvard because they're a bunch of Jew haters. And so she's whining because the national. Yeah, that's the reason.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, that's the reason that. The only reason.

[Adam Curry]

Well, nobody likes. It's also, you know, this could be a money grab.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it could be just possible. So the goal then is to develop methods to detect these early precursors and then design treatments that prevent them from becoming cancer. So that means, say, if someone had one of those, what's known as a broad BRACA gene, that you could help stop that in its tracks. Yes. This would allow us to monitor the development of or the expansion of these early precursors. And even before we had treatments for them, we could be able to tell when they're starting to expand. And that would be a real cue.

[Adam Curry]

That would be the cue for those.

[John C. Dvorak]

Women to have the prophylactic breast cancer mastectomies. How important ultimately, are federal grants in the world work that you do? I would say federal grants are the most important contributors to our research effort. There just isn't enough money from foundations.

[Adam Curry]

Or partnerships with companies that.

[John C. Dvorak]

To cover the amount of research that is that.

[Adam Curry]

That there's opportunities to pursue.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's an interesting tell in that. The tell or interesting point here. There's not enough nonprofits, basically, what she said, or companies that are even interested in stopping cancer. Of course they're not. It's a boondoggle.

[Adam Curry]

Well, whatever they develop, though, it's those companies that make the profits.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, but if they saw. If they. If they cure cancer.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, they're not curing cancer.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's what. By the way, on the quad bottle box right now, former President Biden diagnosed with, quote, aggressive prostate cancer. It's in his bones.

[Adam Curry]

It's in his bones.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

That's not where prostate cancer usually goes, but okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

It says Biden diagnosed with, quote, aggressive, unquote, prostate cancer has spread.

[Adam Curry]

I think he did get the vaccine.

[John C. Dvorak]

Has spread to his bones.

[Adam Curry]

So before you go on.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

This complaining. This is 440 million bucks. I think that the government's not pulling neff. Screw it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

What Would just. I know you probably don't know this at the top of your head, but for example, let's look at the top 10 pharma companies and their, their net profit. What was the profit made by let's say the top one, Johnson and Johnson in 2024. What was the profit? How many dollars did they end up in their coffers at the end of the day, at the end of the year?

[John C. Dvorak]

So profits though it's after they've paid for everything they're employing.

[Adam Curry]

All taken care of everything.

[John C. Dvorak]

So it's just pure. Are they a public company? Johnson and Johnson?

[Adam Curry]

Yes, of course.

[John C. Dvorak]

I would say 12, 23 billion dollars.

[Adam Curry]

Well that's high. But it's 18 billion. And every other of the 10 top 10 is 15 billion or more. It's 15 billion. 16 billion. 7. These are billions and billions.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hold on a sec. So what you're saying is they should. I mean what if you got 8 billion, 18 billion. 17.5 billion is okay. Shouldn't they be giving that to Harvard so they can.

[Adam Curry]

10 billion is okay and they can give 8 billion to Harvard, but they don't give any billion to Harvard. They do. It doesn't. It was not talked about in this report. Neither is it talked about in this report by Lopez. How much money these pharma companies are just making. They're making bank all you can go to tomorrow top 20. And it's all in the multi billions, you know from 10 billion to 18. Excuse me.

[John C. Dvorak]

You're thinking that Lopez is going to ask a question that might look bad of the pharmaceutical industry police.

[Adam Curry]

Do I think that. What do you think?

[John C. Dvorak]

I think so.

[Adam Curry]

The point is, is that this whining anti Trump oh, it's his fall is bull crap.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. With determination of say for instance the grant to our lab. We would have.

[Adam Curry]

Have to. We'd have to.

[John C. Dvorak]

We wouldn't have the money to fund.

[Adam Curry]

Salaries for the postdoctoral fellows or trainees.

[John C. Dvorak]

That are doing the work. We lose the money necessary to buy supplies for these studies and to pay for the technology. Hold on a second. How about taking just the, just the annual interest on your $100 billion endowment.

[Adam Curry]

It's about 60, 50 to 60 billion. Might as well be honest about it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay. Do you think I know.

[Adam Curry]

Do you think there's at least a billion.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, these are trainees and research scientists that are doing the work. We lose the money necessary to buy supplies for these studies and to pay technologies. And this would severely impede progress towards our goal. Especially when we're so close. We've actually identified these cells that we think are the earliest precursors of cancer. We wouldn't be able to develop the methods so that this work would have.

[Adam Curry]

Impact in the community.

[John C. Dvorak]

I never imagined that there would be across the board cut in research that could have such important implications for the general well being of the United States. If research like yours is ultimately cut off, what effect would it have on everyday Americans and the work that you and others do at Harvard? There would be a really significant delay advancing all of the research findings that we've made to date. And so this would slow down the development of therapies depending on how long and how broadly these cuts are applied. But there are a lot of other consequences. Like the reduction in research funding would reduce the pipeline of disease impacting discoveries from US academic institutions to pharmaceutical companies that then translate the discoveries into treatments and cures for diseases. So industry relies on these discoveries. We would also lose our competitive edge and leadership in the world. Laboratories in other countries would have a significant competitive edge if the discoveries are made outside the United States.

[Adam Curry]

What a question. Crock.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, now that I think about it, I'm just looking at Biden. I'm thinking about Trump and I'm thinking about you. You, you really know a lot of you should run for president. You got at least 15 years to, to become president.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I do. I have time ahead with something like that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, but you would be great.

[Adam Curry]

This is a nonsense complaint. $440 million and they say and they're poor. Pharmaceutical companies aren't going to get the benefit of our research. That pharmaceutical companies should be giving you. The 440 million is not a big deal when they're making 18 billion a year minimum. And that's one of 20 or 30 of these companies. The other thing, it's just, it's ludicrous. And then you have your own endowment. This whining and, and to get backed up by PBS and this Lopez woman. It's just pathetic.

[John C. Dvorak]

And it's.

[Adam Curry]

How dumb do they think the public is to fall for this?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, the public isn't watching that. So you know this.

[Adam Curry]

Well, they are not watching.

[John C. Dvorak]

They're not listening.

[Adam Curry]

There's a lot of people that watch and listen to this rap.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Why are they listening to our show? I don't know. The.

[Adam Curry]

We have a million. We have a. We. We got the cognoscenti.

[John C. Dvorak]

The cognitive to our show. The cognoscenti. Yeah, I'm writing it down. I want a T shirt. I'm a cognoscenti. So you are.

[Adam Curry]

You're actually a cognoscenti.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know this Hulk, we don't have any clips about it but the whole Comey 8647 shells on the deal.

[Adam Curry]

That's funny. We don't have any clips.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Because we're both like that's all Fox talked about eyeroll.

[John C. Dvorak]

But I like the coincidence that when he posted that picture it had been 8,647 days since September 11, 2001. I don't know who came up with it, but what is James Comey really trying to to tell us?

[Adam Curry]

Oh, that's an interesting coinky dink.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. There's no coincidences in the kingdom. So yes, everything seems to be anti Trump killed the president 86, 47. He's no good, he's horrible. He's racist, he's a white nationalist.

[Adam Curry]

He criticizes the country from afar.

[John C. Dvorak]

Africa News did a positive little well, only a minute but they had a positive wrap up of his deals, the deals he did for us because United States President Donald Trump wrapped up his Middle east tour on Friday that saw him visit Saudi Arabia, Qatar and with the last stop in the United Arab Emirates. In this first Visit to the UAE by a US president since 2008, the two countries pledged to strengthen ties and announced deals totaling over $200 billion. This includes a partnership with the UAE to build a massive AI data data center in its capital Abu Dhabi and for the Gulf state to buy advanced AI semiconductors from US companies. Its Etihad Airways has said it will buy 28U S made Boeing aircraft in a deal worth $14.5 billion. While Abu Dhabi, the UAE's capital pledged to hike the value of its energy investments in the US to $440 billion in the next decade. The four day trip was very much focused on business and resulted in a string of lucrative deals for both Washington and the three countries. Trump boarded Air Force One in Abu Dhabi on Friday, giving his signature fist pump before heading back home, having shifted Washington's focus from Israel to the wealthy Gulf states. Yeah, give those Nvidia chips to the Arabs. What are they going to do with them? I guess because they have cheap power. Is that the idea?

[Adam Curry]

I think so.

[John C. Dvorak]

They'll be training the models in the desert. Might work.

[Adam Curry]

Training the models in the desert.

[John C. Dvorak]

So I have a couple of clips here about tariffs which I do want to get out of the way. ABC will kick it off with Senator Rand Paul who is this is his shining moment, everybody. This is all unconstitutional. It's no good. We can't have this he's not a team player. Player right now, which is his.

[Adam Curry]

Has ever been a team player?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, but we could have, we could have used him. I think now just, you know, hey, I just, I just want the taxes on tips to go away, man. Make one of these millennials be quiet. Okay, Senator, let me turn to tariffs.

[Adam Curry]

The President also announced a temporary reduction.

[John C. Dvorak]

To those big China tariffs.

[Adam Curry]

So there's still 30% tariffs on goods.

[John C. Dvorak]

Coming in from China.

[Adam Curry]

As he negotiates, tries to negotiate a new deal, a Walmart has warned that this will result in higher prices.

[John C. Dvorak]

What's your assessment?

[Adam Curry]

Well, tariffs or taxes?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I really despise this line. Tariffs are taxes. No, they're not. John, are tariffs taxes?

[Adam Curry]

No, they're tariffs.

[John C. Dvorak]

The tariffs, exactly.

[Adam Curry]

Otherwise that's why they have a different name.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, but, well, tariffs are tax. Taxes.

[Adam Curry]

Well, tariffs are taxes. And when you put a tax on a business, it's always passed through as a cost, so there will be higher prices. And I think this is what's important to know. People talk about, oh, this is America versus China. The US doesn't trade with China.

[John C. Dvorak]

You trade with Walmart or you trade.

[Adam Curry]

With Target or you trade with Amazon. Americans go in and buy a product. Now it might come from China, but think about it it this way. Think of the entire trade with China was all TVs. A million people go to Wal Mart, they all buy a tv. They like the quality, they like the price, and it happened to come from China. But then you, you draw a circle around China and the us you say, oh my goodness, it's a trade deficit. We buy all of our TVs from over there. But each individual transaction, each individual who bought a TV was happy. But how can you draw a circle around a million happy people and say they all got ripped off? So there is an economic fallacy here. And the fallacy is that trade deficits actually mean anything. They're an artificial accounting. The only trade that means anything is the individual who buys something. That's the only real trade. And that by very definition of its voluntary is mutually beneficial or the trade doesn't occur.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is the worst economic analysis I've ever heard.

[Adam Curry]

This is typical of the economics of an ophthalmologist. So yeah, let me, I want to play something that President Trump said just recently. Specifically, specifically talking about John Carl.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yes, deficit with Canada.

[Adam Curry]

Take a listen. Why are we subsidizing Canada?

[John C. Dvorak]

$200 billion a year or whatever the number might be.

[Adam Curry]

It's a very substantial number and it's hard for the American taxpayer to say, gee whiz, we love doing that. So the actual trade deficit with Canada is actually a little less than or quite a bit less than 100 billion.

[John C. Dvorak]

But even so, is a trade deficit opposite subsidizing Canada? He should say yes, because if tariffs are taxes, then you have to call the opposite subsidies. That would be fair if he said that.

[Adam Curry]

No, they're really not related at all. What happens if we trade with another country because they have less expensive goods is we become richer. There's all kinds of things that happens to that extra money. But you are richer because you've got a product at a lower cost. This is the other fallacy they put forward. They say, oh, the middle class is being hollowed out. If you look at the middle class over 70 years, the middle class is about the same as it was 70 years ago. The one segment of our economy that has grown is those making over $100,000 a year. And that has tripled. So most of the middle class, if the middle class shrunk at all, actually went to an upper class. If you say upper class begins at $100,000. So most of this is just fallacy. We have gotten rich, rich, rich off of trade all Americans and it is lifting all boats and we are richer than we have ever been in any time in our history. But it's not easy to convince people of that. Short term problems where you have inflation like during the last four years where the middle class actually did lose purchasing power and did get poor. But if you look at the long term, it's not trade call causing this. The thing that makes us poorer, if anything would be inflation and the general rise of prices from inflation.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, he's right there. Yes. And I think the inflation he's talking about is money creation. But come on, Rand Paul, come on, why is he doing this?

[Adam Curry]

And he's wrong. And his premise is also somewhat wrong because a lot of he says we don't trade with the public, doesn't trade with China. Yes, we do.

[John C. Dvorak]

Of course we do.

[Adam Curry]

Anyone with a Temu or Xi' an accounts and there's millions and millions of people in the public who are trading directly with China. Yeah, there's. And a lot of the stuff you even buy from Amazon is direct coming directly from China. We're trading. The public is trading directly with China.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

And the stuff you get is a lot of it is pure junk. It's not making anybody richer, it's making people poorer.

[John C. Dvorak]

You get junk in your house and.

[Adam Curry]

You got to buy another Copy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And now it fell apart. I gotta buy another one.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now we need to move to Scott Besant. And he joined your pal, Kristen Welker. She's your pal, right?

[Adam Curry]

Man hands? Yeah. Oh, no. Kristen Welker. Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

I always mix her up with, Yeah, I don't know. I can mix or with anybody.

[John C. Dvorak]

Meet the press about the Federal reserve. How far, Mr. Secretary, is the president, is the administration willing to go to prevent CEOs from increasing prices? Well, I think what we are hearing here is that tax people are saying tax increases are inflationary. That when I was testifying before Congress last week, one of the congressmen said that. And I said, well, Congressman, if taxes are inflationary, let's cut taxes. So let's get this tax bill done. Bring down taxes, which according to this line of thinking, should be disinflationary. But the Federal Reserve has said that tariffs are inflationary. Just to be very clear, you said you called Wal Mart. Is that what CEOs can expect, that you, that the president, that other members of the administration will apply pressure to try to prevent them from passing on these prices? I didn't apply any pressure. The, the Doug and I have a very good relationship. So I just wanted to hear it from him rather than, you know, second, third hand from the press. And again, as I said, this is all from their earnings call. And on an earnings call, you have to give the worst case scenario. Kristen, to go back to what you said, the Federal Reserve is not saying that tariffs will cause inflation. They're saying they're not sure and that they're in wait and see mode. That's interesting. I've not heard the investor calls. So it isn't necessarily true that Walmart said we got to raise prices. They said we may have to raise prices depending on the market situation. See how that gets twisted around. And by the way.

[Adam Curry]

Well, the news media picked it up and ran it as though it was a slogan.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

When in fact, Walmart's never going to promote that. They used to always have. Oh, we're lowering prices back to whatever they they're going to go out and promote. Hey, we raised our prices. Come visit us, come shop.

[John C. Dvorak]

And Kristen, why didn't Kristen say, as a gay man, do you hate working for that homophobe Donald Trump? I'm waiting for that question. Let's start right there with Moody's downgrading the nation's credit rating. And they do cite the debt. I want to read you a little bit of what Moody says. Data says, quote, if the 2016, 2017, tax cuts and Jobs act is extended, which is our base case. It will add around $4 trillion to the deficit over the next decade. Several Republicans, Mr. Secretary, are citing similar concerns. Does the president's tax bill need to do more to. Wait a minute. So that's 400 billion a year. No, wait, yes, over 10 years. Four trillion. A trillion is a thousand billion.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it would be 400 a year.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, that's all. That's what we send to Ukraine. What is that? They always, I don't like it when they do that.

[Adam Curry]

They always like to do this. This is another. Yes, this is another trick. I've heard it a lot of times. We haven't discussed it, we haven't brought it up, but it's common. Yeah, it's going to cost the country $2 trillion over 10 years. Yeah, $2 trillion over five years, $2 trillion over 100 hundred years. I mean, what's it going to cost?

[John C. Dvorak]

And by the way, over 10 years, 400 billion will be, you know, like 100 billion today with inflation. Secretary are citing similar concerns. Does the president's tax bill need to do more to address the nation's debt and deficit? Well, Kristen, first of all, I think that Moody's is a lagging indicator. I think that's what everyone thinks of credit agencies. Larry Summers and I don't agree on everything, but he said that when they downgraded the US in 2011. So it's a lagging indicator. And just like Sean Duffy said with our air traffic control system, we didn't get here in the, in the past hundred days. It's the Biden administration and the spending that we have seen over the past four years.

[Adam Curry]

Years.

[John C. Dvorak]

We inherited 6.7% deficit to GDP, the highest when we weren't in a recession, not in the war. And we are determined to bring the spending down and grow the economy. Yeah, but Mr. Secretary, you're talking all kinds of numbers and complicated things. What about Wal Mart rising prices. Let me ask you about Walmart. This big news from Wal Mart. It says it will start. Get back to what people care about, Mr. Secretary. Raising prices on its consumers. Mr. Secretary, as early as this month due to the tariffs. Now President Trump out with a very stern warning on social media saying Walmart sure. The tariffs adding the company made far more than expected last year. Is the president asking American companies to be less profitable? I was on the phone with Doug McMillan, the CEO of Wal Mart yesterday and Wal Mart is, in fact, in fact they are going to, as you describe it, eat Some of the tariffs.

[Adam Curry]

That.

[John C. Dvorak]

Just as they did in a. Wow. What did he just eat? Some of the tariffs, in fact, they are going to, as you describe it, eat some of the tariffs that he just swallowed his tongue or something. Just as they did in 18, 19 and 20. The other thing though, that we are seeing that Doug passed along to me that with their consumer, the single most important thing is the gasoline price. And gasoline prices have collapsed under President Trump. So we are seeing that the other thing that will happen that is a direct tax cut for consumers, then the transportation, transportation cost are also a big input. So let's see what happens. What you're describing was Wal Mart's earnings call. The other thing that companies have to do, they have to give the worst case scenario so that they're not sued. So, you know, I think overall we are seeing a decline in services inflation. And I, we saw inflation come down for the first time in four years. Who advises this guy on his communication skills? He should say, you've made up a, you made a storm in a teacup which may not even exist because gas prices are going down. They have to say that on an earnings call because they have to be transparent and they have to warn in case they screw something else up, they can blame it on Trump. It's, it's. They did not say they're raising prices. Ms. News News Person. That's irritating.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, he's not the best at this. I mean, Rubio's the guy. But they won't bring anybody like Rubio on again. They're not going to bring on these guys who call, call out the post. You're full of crap.

[John C. Dvorak]

He's no good. He's no good. We can't have that. We can't have Rubio. I'm gonna show my support by donating to Noah J.

[Adam Curry]

Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah, that'd be fab. That's still to come. We have John's tip of the day. We promise it will not be a repeat. Neither you nor I caught that. You had already done the, the, the graphics viewer. Did you get that email?

[Adam Curry]

I had talked about it. I said at the beginning of the, of the. Here's the. If you play back the clip at the very beginning, I said, I've talked about this product on the show before, but I hadn't given it as a clip because I did a search ofnoagenda fund.com. i did a complete search trying to find it as a tip and I couldn't find it as a tip. Was it a tip? No, I had mentioned it a couple of times.

[John C. Dvorak]

Ten years ago was your first tip. What's the thing called again?

[Adam Curry]

Irfan View.

[John C. Dvorak]

Irfanview. I'm pretty sure you did give it as a tip.

[Adam Curry]

It's not on the list that I could find. And I did a deep search.

[John C. Dvorak]

A deep.

[Adam Curry]

And the guy himself, the guy who bitched and moaned. And by the way, I'm going to stop doing these tips if everyone complains about him. So the guy says, oh, you said it before. It's the third time you've mentioned it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Rage quit. He's rage quitting, everybody.

[Adam Curry]

You want to rage quit.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, he's rage quitting. Well, before you rage quit, would you mind, please? Thank you. Thanking everybody who supported us with $50 or more.

[Adam Curry]

I can do that. And I'll start with Richard J. Lindequist, who came in with $105.35 and he writes great newsletter. Yes, I look forward to hearing more about the resistance. Kind of a funny bit that was in that last newsletter about the resistance.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, very good.

[Adam Curry]

Travis Sparks. People should be. I don't know why they don't. Why everyone doesn't subscribe to the newsletter. And people like every newsletter goes out about five people quit.

[John C. Dvorak]

They rage quit.

[Adam Curry]

They do. They rage quit the newsletter. I don't know. I don't want to read this. I don't like the humor. Travis Sparks in Castle Rock, Washington. 105 35.

[John C. Dvorak]

Your humor.

[Adam Curry]

Sir Pierre and Farmington in Connecticut. 100 bucks. Thanks for a dynamite product. That's us.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

James Morin in Jackson, California. That's a nice area. $100. He wants some karma.

[John C. Dvorak]

Where is Jackson, California?

[Adam Curry]

It's up in the foothills. It's up. It's a gold mining area. Anonymous in Western Springs, Illinois. 100. Ben McDonald in Spring, Texas. Another hundred. Sir Loud Pipes in Charlotte, North Carolina. Don't forget to put karma at the end. Sir Loud Pipes in Charlotte, North Carolina. And somebody else said, don't wear age quit. We're not quitting anything. Charlotte, North Carolina. 94 bucks, sir loud Pipes. He's the baron of Mecklenburg County. Robert O. Segueta Osagua. I don't know. Osaguaita, I think in eastern Connecticut. 8438. This is Boobs with fees.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, hooker boobs. Oh, nice.

[Adam Curry]

Get it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I got it.

[Adam Curry]

James Poulos in Reno. Reno, Nevada. 8196. 8196 is the millennial donation.

[John C. Dvorak]

Ah, that's right.

[Adam Curry]

I gotta document these things. Kevin McLaughlin. There he is. 8008. He's the Archduke of lunar lover. American Boobs and comes in with a boob donation. Gert. Oh, Eula. Eulers. Eulers, Eula. What do you think?

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know.

[Adam Curry]

Belgium.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm still looking for your tip of the day on the Irfan View.

[Adam Curry]

You're not going to find it. 7903. He says we rock and he's in Belgium. And he would know.

[John C. Dvorak]

The Belgian.

[Adam Curry]

Zachary Selig in Grosse Pointe or grosse Pointe Woods, Michigan. 6969. He is a V4V bakery.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, these things work, man.

[Adam Curry]

Wagner rock Toy box in DeWitt, Iowa. 69. 69. Chad Hewitt in Folsom, California. 66. 40.

[John C. Dvorak]

Isn't Folsom where there's a prison?

[Adam Curry]

You used to have the number. That's the prison that actually toured that prison.

[John C. Dvorak]

Johnny Cash thing about it, right? The Folsom Prison Blues.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. That's where Charlie Manson was for a while when I visited it. Charlie. Charlie Manson was there. Didn't get to meet him.

[John C. Dvorak]

No.

[Adam Curry]

But it was kind of a creepy place, let me tell you. Gabriel Adams. I went there as a. When I was the editor of InfoWorld. As a part of. For a story about tech. High tech.

[John C. Dvorak]

Tech in the prisons.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, tech in it. Well, no, they're teaching prisoners how to code.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Was that an Obama. Obama program. Learn to code in the prison.

[Adam Curry]

There's a bunch. This is before Obama. And so it was during the Reagan administration. So I was told by, you know, once you get in, which is a pain in the ass to get in all the X ray and everything. Jesus. Terrible. I felt probably had years worth of radiation. And so you get in there and the first thing they tell you, never ask any prisoner. What? Why they're here.

[John C. Dvorak]

No. Oh, no, no, no.

[Adam Curry]

Just don't, don't do that. That's rule number one.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, don't do that.

[Adam Curry]

Gabriel Adams in Newport, Tennessee. 6494. I did. Chad Hewitt and Folsom. Yeah, Obviously, sir. Kevin O' Brien in Chicago. 6,006. Small boobs. And Les Torkowski in Kingman, Arizona. Also 6,006. Along with Michael Rogan in Evansville, Indiana. Indiana. Sabod Peter. 5809. He volunteers with the animal rescue of New Orleans. And the AI kitten was tugging at my heartstrings. To donate.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, oh, there you go. Children, old people and animals. John, always. Next time let's try a sad granny.

[Adam Curry]

Sir. Not Jake in Thompson, Connecticut. 57. 678. Kelly Hubbard in Plymouth, Minnesota. 5555. Sir Josh in Springfield, Missouri. 5518. Sir Birthday. Call it for Dame Amanda James Edmondson in South Plains, New Jersey. 5510. Dean Roker. 5510. Mason Baldwin in Hayden, Alabama. 5377. Carl Vogler and Dylan Beach. 52. 272. D. And he calls that a newsletter donation. D Woo. In Cape Town, South Africa.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yo. Hey, hey. Cape Town, South Africa. Tell us what's up, man.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, what's up?

[John C. Dvorak]

What's up?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, tell us what's up. He's adopting Bitcoin. Cape Town, 2026 in South Africa. Whatever that means, sir. Mix in Fort St. John, BC, British Columbia. 5272. Chris Osterhouse in Cincinnati, Ohio. 5271. Now we're at the 50s and we're going to name a location. There's really not a lot today, but we start with Chris Cowan in Austin, Texas.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hello.

[Adam Curry]

Scott Lavender. Did you see him at the meetup?

[John C. Dvorak]

Nope. No, wait, I think I did. Why don't Chris. I don't know if this is the same Chris. I don't think so.

[Adam Curry]

Well, whatever, because Scott lavender in Montgomery, Texas. 50. Gregory Kyrgyk in Padova, Italy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, hey, Padova.

[Adam Curry]

50.

[John C. Dvorak]

Nice.

[Adam Curry]

Gregory Padawa, or whatever you want to call it.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think Padova.

[Adam Curry]

Meredith Whittle in Huntsville, Arkansas. 50. Karen Fatula in St. Clairsville, Ohio. Ohio. She has a comment. You're the best. Mt Duffy in Blenheim, New Zealand. 50. And last on our 50 or last two, we got Lisa in Vernal, Utah. And last on our list is the good old baron, Alan Bean, who is now in Beaverton, Oregon. Thank all these people for helping us.

[John C. Dvorak]

Thank you all very much. We appreciate your value for value donations. Everybody, everybody can participate, even if it's just a little bit. It shows us that you care. That's really the whole point and that's why it's open. There's no levels. You don't have to be an executive producer, you don't have to be a knight or none of that. It's not necessary. Just support us with whatever you think is value that you'd like to send back to the show. That's all. That's how it works. You don't want anything else from us. We don't want anything else from you. Giving is loving people.

[Adam Curry]

No donations. Com.

[John C. Dvorak]

No donation.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, I'm sorry.

[John C. Dvorak]

I gotta register that one. No donations dot com. Okay.

[Adam Curry]

No Agenda donations dot com with an.

[John C. Dvorak]

S. No Agenda donations dot com. Thank you all very much. Here is the karma that was requested earlier. Happy to hand it out.

[Adam Curry]

Karma.

[John C. Dvorak]

And remember, you can do one of those sustaining donations. Those are pretty cool. Any amount, any frequency. No Agenda donations dot com. Thank you very much for supporting the show. Well, would you look at that. We got two. Two family birthdays. Jay wishes her husband, Brennan Lawton a very happy birthday. He turns 31 years old today. Is there a big celebration in the. In the hood today, John?

[Adam Curry]

They had a birthday party up there at their house and I went to it and there's a lot of the family members listen to no Agenda.

[John C. Dvorak]

Lovely. And Eric Mackey also celebrating the 18th. What are the chances of that? Finally, Sir Josh and Bradley Delsaber say happy birthday to Dame Amanda. And we do too. For everybody here at the best podcast the Universe, happy birthday, everybody. Now, of course, we don't have any knights or dames or Commodore or anything. Commodores are over. It's all done. So we can go straight to the no Agenda meetups. No cheddar, B Dubs. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, baby.

[John C. Dvorak]

Big party going on. We got a couple of parties that took place, including the Planktown meetup in the morning. Everybody, this is B Dubs hanging out with some fine folks at Planktown. Thankfully, there's no sneezing and wheezing. I'm gonna pass the phone around and the people that are here are gonna say something in the morning. This is Sir Trevor, the machinist in the morning. This is Samio. Love you mean it. Deflation. You've got pollen. Thanks, Obama. Funny. I like that. Very good. Fort Wayne, Indiana. Come on in, Adam and John. This is Shannon reporting in from Fort Wayne. They had a raccoon dog on the menu. It was very tasty.

[Adam Curry]

Hey, this is Jared from Kulaks again. What's up, you guys? Hey.

[John C. Dvorak]

Shelley from Fort Wayne had a great lunch and even better company. And this is Mike. Just hanging out with a couple of fun people on an afternoon. So back to you. Have a great day. See you at the next one. Our server couldn't. He was camera shy because he said he was a refugee from Ukraine. And he's in Witsak. Bye. Okay, well, good try anyway, thank you very much. We love those meetup reports. We'll have one from Fredericksburg on the next show. Today there is one meetup, the too many eggs.com meetup. Number 12. It's underway as we speak in New Hampshire. Elm City Brewing Company coming up in see the month of May, what's left of a quad cities area. That's Davenport, Iowa, the 24th, Culenborg, the Netherlands, 29th. Coeur d' Alene, Idaho on the 29th. Alfredo, Georgia, on the 29th as well. On the 31st, Pensacol Township, New Jersey, Anchorage, Alaska, Overland Park, Kansas and Long Beach, California. I might as well just add that on June 1st, there's a meetup in Tokyo, Japan. We are bad. We are nationwide. We are everywhere. We are no agenda. Go to no agendameetups.com to get the entire overview, the full list. And if you want to organize one, these are all producer organized. Just go ahead, put one together yourself, get it on the calendar, people will come. Connection is protection. You get that at your meetups. These people are your first responders in emergency situations. No agenda, meetups.com all. Always a party.

[Adam Curry]

It's like a party.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's like a party. It's always like a party. And remember, John's tip of the day is coming up. End of show mixes as well. And now is the moment in the show where we determine what we're going to play as the end. End of show ISO. It's like you're a producer listening to the producers of a show produce. It's amazing. And these are your two holdovers from last show, I believe.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, they are.

[John C. Dvorak]

We're going to play them first. Where do you want to play them last?

[Adam Curry]

I'll play them last.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay. I'll start with my first one.

[Adam Curry]

Ooh, daddy got a microphone.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

Can you hear it?

[John C. Dvorak]

There's some crazy people out there. No. Okay. Got this one. So good. And I actually think I have a candidate with this one. I am so impressed with how good that was. Nah, that's not too bad.

[Adam Curry]

That's not too bad.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

I mean, it would in a pinch.

[John C. Dvorak]

It would do in a pinch. Well, here's. Which one do you want first?

[Adam Curry]

The best monkey.

[John C. Dvorak]

That was better than a bear fighting a monkey. Okay. And then the best. Wow.

[Adam Curry]

Best three hours you'll ever spend.

[John C. Dvorak]

I like this. That was better than a bear fighting a monkey. I have to say, there's something about that one that does it for me.

[Adam Curry]

All right, I'm in.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now. You know I love you.

[Adam Curry]

So you found Irfan View.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, I did. We're going back. 1673. 30 June 2020.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I'll tell you, Fanview probably has a plugin for it. I'm sure they. They can open that. It's the only system I found. Tip of the day.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wonder what that stands for heic. Hold on.

[Adam Curry]

Well, we can look it up. Well, we can consult the book of Knowledge.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, why bother? Irfan View is the tip of the day, everybody.

[Adam Curry]

This has been your tip of the day. Thanks for listening.

[John C. Dvorak]

Y' all come back now. You hear Tip of the day. It was a tip of the day. We didn't have the jingle. We have was a different jingle. It was a tip of the day. Your deep search.

[Adam Curry]

My deep search failed.

[John C. Dvorak]

Then get rid of that deep search.

[Adam Curry]

What show was it again?

[John C. Dvorak]

I just clicked it away. 1674, I think. Yeah. Bingit IO, people. Bingit IO learn how to search on Bingit IO. It is awesome. And now it is time for a brand new, fresh, funky, tasty tip of the the day.

[Adam Curry]

Now we got to get back to the hot sauce category.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay. Yes.

[Adam Curry]

And this. Now, McElhenn McElhaney I think is the company that family. The. The old man, I think, recently died. And it's taken over probably a few years back by the. The kids. And they've been bringing out other products than Tabasco. Tabasco sauce, which is one of the great sauces ever.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's a great sauce. When it comes to.

[Adam Curry]

It's a great sauce. Again, you don't need a lot of it. But they've been bringing all these experimental ones out, and I've been keeping track of most of them. And I do use the green sauce that they have once in a while. Is a very tasty sauce. Not quite as good as Melinda's Fire Roasted, but it's good. So I run into one. I've never seen this one before. I only found it in an obscure Mexican, of all places, a Mexican mercado. A Mexican smoke Mercado. A mercado.

[John C. Dvorak]

A big one. Big mercado.

[Adam Curry]

But this has got to be. This is some serious. In fact, they call it seriously extra hot.

[John C. Dvorak]

You haven't done this one before as well. How come? I feel that I've heard of this one too.

[Adam Curry]

You. You've heard of other hot sauces, I guarantee. Look it up. You got Bingit IO.

[John C. Dvorak]

So this is. This is a tip of the day. That's better than the previous tip of the day.

[Adam Curry]

No, they're. All the tips are good.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

It's just a different tip. The reason is because it comes in the regular Tabasco sauce bottle. So it's got a black label, so you'd think it might be Tabasco sauce. Seriously. It's made with scorpion. Scorpion peppers.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sweet.

[Adam Curry]

One of the hottest peppers in the world. I don't know how they. Where they make it or they manufacture it in the same plant they make Tabasco. It's hard to say. And I know. Don't know if it's aged, but this is some seriously hot. And it's called seriously hot. It's the kind of thing that you want to buy. It's obscure, by the way. It's hard to find. At least I couldn't. I've just ran into it once ever in the wild. And for your hot pepper loving friends and you've got one or two or if you're not yourself, I would recommend checking out a bottle of. This is not expensive. It comes in a small little Tabasco sauce bottle. Looks like Tabasco sauce sauce, but it's not.

[John C. Dvorak]

And where's.

[Adam Curry]

That's my tip.

[John C. Dvorak]

Where is it manufactured?

[Adam Curry]

Louisiana.

[John C. Dvorak]

And they do it with actual scorpion pepper.

[Adam Curry]

Well, it's. Yeah. And it looks to be a hundred percent scorpion pepper.

[John C. Dvorak]

And that is scorpion pepper. Is from grinding up scorpions.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, they make scorpion. No, it's a pepper called scorpion pepper.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm sorry, I thought. I don't know. I'm like, I got a lot of scorpions here. Maybe I can make some pepper out of them. They're not good for months.

[Adam Curry]

It looks like a. It looks like a scotch bottle on it of some sort. Oh, it's got a little tail on it. I have never seen one a pepper, a scorpion pepper. Actually seen one at. For sale anywhere. But I'm assuming they grow them somewhere interesting and they. I don't know what. You know, these are the kind of new things that they've been developing, these super hot peppers. I'm not sure it's good for the, for the market, but.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I'm very.

[Adam Curry]

People who like this stuff.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm. I'm willing to try it. I'm. I'm a little bit of a pepper guy, A little bit of a hot, hot sauce guy. Not too much, but I'm looking forward to it. And you, ladies and gentlemen, have just enjoyed another special edition of John C. Dvorak's Tip of the Day. Great advice for you and me. Just the tip with JCD and sometimes Adam created by Dana Bernetti. That's right, everybody. And that's why you stick around. Because you know that the tip of the day is well worth it. Even if it's a repeat, it's still good. And stop complaining because otherwise John's gonna rage, quit the tip of the Day. And then what will we do?

[Adam Curry]

You don't want to ruin Brunetti has been complaining about the tip of the day twice. At least.

[John C. Dvorak]

He's a complainer. He's a Hollywood guy.

[Adam Curry]

He is a complainer. You're right. He's a Hollywood guy. They're all that way.

[John C. Dvorak]

End of show mix is coming up from Hugh Allison, who's back. These laughs brings us some Toronto jams. And Tom Starkweather with a bit of Comey 8647. A classic. I'm sure it'll show up in a best of one of these days. And up next on the no Agenda stream, if you're listening in the troll room on your modern podcast app, it'll pop up automatically. Airline pilot guy. And this is the arrested landing episode. That's a great show, actually. It's fun to listen to. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas hill country here in Fredericksburg, home of the Fred Freakout in the morning, everybody.

[Adam Curry]

I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley. Well, we're still wondering about the first name Kier. I'm John C. Dvorak.

[John C. Dvorak]

We return on Thursday with more of your media deconstruction. We're happy to do it. It's a public service. Remember [e-mail] until Thursday. Adios mo fos a who we hooey and such.

[Adam Curry]

You've never seen anything like it.

[John C. Dvorak]

You have Persian rugs?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I have a couple.

[John C. Dvorak]

Do you fly around on them?

[Adam Curry]

Well, one reason I need, I found a moth attack on one of my Persian rugs. Pheromone moth attracted sticky pads. F H E E R M O N e. It's okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

Why would we want to have pheromone moth sticky pads?

[Adam Curry]

So here's the deal. Key to success with these items is they have to be fresh. Fresh Persian rugs are a really good price nowadays, by the way.

[John C. Dvorak]

Best price. But do you have them on the floor or in your.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, they're on the floor. I get them. They're all over the place. We have everybody in the family has a bunch of these, either Turkish or Persian rugs.

[John C. Dvorak]

Something I did not know about the Dvorak plan.

[Adam Curry]

So. And they're not expensive anymore.

[John C. Dvorak]

Do you fly around on them? The media has beaten the slop. It doesn't matter what topics discussed, quality.

[Adam Curry]

Entertainment and information you can trust that's being planned or at least discussed.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, we're not going to entertainment and information you can trust. Send the guy some value, boost them with some stats. Bitcoin is a scarcity asset. I mean, it's just a fact. Geopolitical national down to the local clown world needs a carny. Olivia Chow is just a Yoko so funny.

[Adam Curry]

I wish everyone in Toronto and Mayor Chow.

[John C. Dvorak]

I never miss an episode. Be the change you want to see and you can run a nose. We could talk about Toronto for hours. The city has fallen. I mean harder than the Twin Towers. Toronto, that's incredible. The city's falling harder than the Twin Towers. 1% of a Bitcoin that's a million.

[Adam Curry]

Sats accumulating through cash back.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's another hack. Not your crypto, not your keys.

[Adam Curry]

Not your crypto, not your keys.

[John C. Dvorak]

CBP says that's a fact. That's a fact. Two parts for the audio. Listen to Come on back. Ready for the show.

[Adam Curry]

Here we go. Ready for the show.

[John C. Dvorak]

Here we go. Shout out to the Discord Chat really starting to grow. This this and new mal information. CBP members are increasing throughout the nation. Voting in your self interest. I agree. Voting is one of the last things that will change and that what counts. That's just me. That's just me. Former FBI Director James Comey Comey is in hot water after a social media post is causing quite a bit of trouble for former FBI director James Comey. Comey may soon be getting a visit from Secret Service agents who want to know more about a now deleted social media post. Comey posted a photo showing a collection of seashells spelling out the numbers 8647 Merriam Webster Dictionary defining the term 86 to eject, dismiss or remove someone. Everybody knows what the term 86 means. 86 means to get rid of something. 86 informally means to get rid of.

[Adam Curry]

He knew exactly what that meant. A child knows what that meant. If you're the FBI director and you don't know what that meant, that meant assassination.

[John C. Dvorak]

Several officials from the Trump administration say this is a call for violence against the president. It's used in bars and restaurants to strike items from menu use, but others use it as slang for murder. It is being used right now in left wing circles and activist circles. Look, his life literally was in danger last year. So it is a problem. The real question is whether this post is really significant of anything. And do you think he did the seashells himself on the beach? Because it's not even beach season right now. Comey deleted the post and made another saying. I did. I didn't realize some folks associate those numbers with violence. It never occurred to me, but I.

[Adam Curry]

Oppose violence of any kind.

[John C. Dvorak]

So I took the post down.

[Adam Curry]

The best podcast in the universe.

[John C. Dvorak]

Adios mofo dvorak.org na that was better than a bear fighting a monkey.