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Adam Curry
Hey Stooge, the podcast is beginning. Get on the phone.
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John C. Dvorak
Adam Curry, Chauncey Dvorak, it's Thursday, August 28, 2025. This is your award winning Gimmonation Media assassination episode 1794.
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Adam Curry
This is no Agenda Houston.
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John C. Dvorak
We have a problem. And we're broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill country here in FEMA region number six in the morning everybody.
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Adam Curry
I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where we're all wondering why don't they talk to the trans shooter's mot? I'm John C. Dvorak.
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John C. Dvorak
It's crackpot and buzzkill in the morning. Well obviously that would break the imaginary wall that we have a pattern here. So we can't be doing that. There'll be no talking to family members.
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Adam Curry
You know in that, in the 11 minute video that he did where he shows all his clips.
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John C. Dvorak
Yes.
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Adam Curry
Big gun clips, he, he shows the four letter. I'm sorry, the four page note to his parents and his apology letter.
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John C. Dvorak
Yes.
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Adam Curry
And in there he mentions everybody in the family. He's got all the names.
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John C. Dvorak
Yeah.
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Adam Curry
He's got brothers and sisters. He talks about how his sister is estranged from his mother and won't talk to her and he'd like them to get back together. And it just seems to me, and this also holds true for that crook's character. The guy took a shot at Trump, at President Trump. Why have, hasn't the media. Who doesn't. I've seen it. They don't, they don't mind doing this, ambushing people, you know, coming up from behind. They're really getting in their car and yelling at them. They do it in the halls of Congress, they do it everywhere. But why haven't we seen these parents? I want to see crook's parents, I want to see somebody talking to him. I want to see this guy's mom who transed him when he was a, when he was a minor, went to court and changed his name. She was responsible. I want to see these people, I want to see them interviewed and if, oh why are we protecting them? They're the ones that are at fault.
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John C. Dvorak
Are you somehow confused with the news media being around to inform you? Because that's not what they're for. They are here to protect the system and the system is showing us patterns. Two patterns. One for the first time that I can recall, the video stayed up and the so called manifesto is everywhere. This is a break in the pattern, but it's. Well, there were two videos but I'm saying it's A break in the pattern.
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Adam Curry
Yes.
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John C. Dvorak
This is different.
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Adam Curry
Well, I'm not convinced of this because what I'm seeing was I think people doubt somebody got. They're quicker to the draw and they grab those videos and they've been repurposing them because they have been taken down from the original source.
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John C. Dvorak
I'm just saying it's a change in the pattern. And the other pattern we have now five in the pattern. Aberdeen, Maryland. Snowcha Mosley, identified as transgender male. That was 2018. May 2019, Denver, Colorado. Alec McKinney and Devin Erickson. McKinney trans school shooting, of course. 2022, Colorado Springs, Club Q nightclub. Non binary. And 2023, Nashville, Tennessee, Covenant School. This is the fifth in a pattern.
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Adam Curry
And I think it's more than is there. I thought there were six.
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John C. Dvorak
I may be forgetting one, but I. But I. But that's what I could remember off the top of my head. So this is now a pattern, and we need to just admit it. And what has happened is we. The whole. I'm glad, actually, I have to say I'm glad that this shooter was transgender. So we can get back to the conversation, because we've been desensitized about transgendering children, basically just to relegate it to conversations about school, sports, and bathrooms. Now we can get back to the real conversation. You commit demonic acts on your children, you should expect demonic results. Add a little bit of 4chan x Mastodon Discord servers to the mix. It was all there. This was like looking at a timeline on a social media website. Kill Trump skibidi. Where's your God now? Kill spics, nigger. Kill Jews. Israel must fall. Come on. Even this. This. This kid wrote like, I. I'm tired of being trans. I wish I never brainwashed myself. I don't. So I don't think it was you, kid. And you know you want to hear because everyone's talking about that video. Holy crap. Just. You want to talk demonic. What is this?
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Adam Curry
Yeah, I know that.
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John C. Dvorak
That was pretty bad, dude. That is a demon. And no wonder these people go after church and believers. That's what demons want to do. Simple conclusion. We don't have a gun problem, a political problem or bigotry problem. We have a spiritual problem in our country, and we have to open up the conversation about transgendering our children. This nonsense has to stop. It has to stop. It's out of control. And yes, with that, let's interview some parents, let's interview some doctors. Let's really get into it. It's just crazy. Luckily, Fox and Friends this morning had RFK Jr on. They asked another important question which I think the RFK junior answered quite poorly.
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Adam Curry
Are you going to be examining at.
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John C. Dvorak
All some of the drugs that are used in order to make that transition happening, to see if it plays a role? Because we also know there was a trans shooter in the Tennessee situation. Yeah, we are doing those kind of studies now at nih. We're launching studies on the potential contribution of some of the SSRI drugs and some of the other there psych psychiatric drugs that might be contributing to violence. You know, many of them on their have black box, black box warnings that warn of suicidal ideation and homicidal ideation. So we can't exclude those as a culprit. And those are the kind of studies that we're doing. So I've never seen that medicine.
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Adam Curry
But you're saying that if you get.
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John C. Dvorak
It, some of the side effects could be homicide, suicide? Well, there are black box warnings on some of these psychiatric drugs that warn about in their clinical trials that they saw suicidal and homicidal ideation. You know, we are going into that with an open mind, Bobby. The answer is yes. The answer was yes.
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Adam Curry
Beating around the bush.
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John C. Dvorak
The answer was yes. That was disappointing, but okay, at least they had it out there. The black box warnings. This is not new. And the M5M is not talking about any of this. Any of it. In fact, they obfuscated the whole trans thing to start with. And then it's like, oh, it's a Kash Patel. It's a terrorist attack on the Catholic. No, no, this is a sad. Another sad case of a child abused by their parents who went along with whatever stupid mind control has been out there for. I mean, what's the slogan? I'd rather have a live daughter than a dead son.
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Adam Curry
Yeah, the old one. We don't even know if you said parents. The media has given us so little information, we don't even know if there was a dad.
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John C. Dvorak
Yeah, that's how bad it is. Yes. Now here's the mayor of Minneapolis also not getting to the point. There are no words that can capture the horror and the evil of this unspeakable act.
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Adam Curry
Children are dead.
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John C. Dvorak
There are families that have a deceased child. You cannot put into words the gravity, the tragedy or the absolute pain of this situation. These were Minneapolis families, these were American families. And the amount of pain that they are suffering right now is extraordinary. Don't just say this is about thoughts and prayers right now. These kids were literally praying. It was the first week of School. They were in a church. They should be able to go to.
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Adam Curry
School or church in peace without the.
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John C. Dvorak
Fear or risk of violence.
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Adam Curry
And their parents should have the same kind of assurance. This kind of act of evil should never happen.
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John C. Dvorak
And it happens far too often. The only thing it got right was the act of evil. But you know, that's going towards guns. Just haven't done it yet.
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Adam Curry
Oh, no, they've. They've already done. No, you're. They've already gone a. The gun thing is cropped up all over the place. It's. Guns fall. It's not. Not these people. In fact, listen to the super. Very short super cut. Trans in Minnesota's. This is Minnesota promoting this.
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John C. Dvorak
Minneapolis will continue to be a safe haven for our trans community for being a safe haven for transgender individuals. We have sued them for gender affirming care. Yes. We are not going to scapegoat our transgender community when our children tell us who they are. It is our job as grown ups to listen and to believe them. Yeah. So it's so sad. This, this child, you know, didn't even want this. Yeah. Quote, I only keep my long hair because it's pretty much the last shred of me being trans. I'm tired of being trans. I wish I'd never brainwashed myself. I can cut my hair. I can't cut my hair now as it would be an embarrassing defeat and it might be a concerning change of character that could get me reported. And by the way, a lot, a lot in, in, in his writings about. Wow. You know, all the videos I'm watching, I'm surprised they haven't knocked on my door already. Where was that? It's not there.
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Adam Curry
It's a tr. But Minnesota is a trans. It's a sanctuary state for trans. So that's not gonna. He's not gonna know. He's knocking on his door. They're encouraging it.
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John C. Dvorak
Yes. I really don't know any good stories. I know parents who've trans their kids. You know, it doesn't. I just don't know of any happy endings. I don't now. It's only my side.
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Adam Curry
There's got to be a couple.
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John C. Dvorak
Not that I've heard of. It's always a sad ending. But we can't say that in the media. Oh, we can't do that. Oh, no. That would ruin our relationship with the political parties. And I'm waiting for President Trump to tell us the truth. Where's that? He should say it.
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Adam Curry
He doesn't know how to do it either. I mean, you're coming the closest.
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John C. Dvorak
Because we've seen these patterns. We've seen it over and over again. I thought you had another trans clip.
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Adam Curry
Now I have the shooter Shooter ID the bs the shoot. This is a BS clip from npr. The shooter clip.
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John C. Dvorak
Okay. So the director of the FBI, Cash Patel, said on X that the shooter.
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Adam Curry
Has been identified, quote, oh, wait, stop, stop, stop. There's actually two. I'm sorry, I've stopped. I didn't realize. There's actually this. That should be the second part of this. Just start with Robin Shooter 1, NPR and then we'll go to that clip.
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John C. Dvorak
Once again, a community is grieving, this time over this morning's shooting during morning mass at a Catholic church in Minneapolis, two children, ages 8 and 10 died in the pews where they sat. Seventeen others, 14 of them children, were wounded. NPR's Jason DeRose reports. Church leaders are expressing their sorrow in a statement in issued by the Vatican. Pope Leo is offering his heartfelt condolences and the assurance of spiritual closeness to all those affected, especially the families now grieving the loss of a child. Archbishop Bernard Hebda of the Saint Paul Minneapolis Archdiocese issued a statement calling for the end to gun violence and saying our community is rightfully outraged at such horrific acts of violence perpetuated against the vulnerable and innocent. Archdiocese staff are working with Annunciation Catholic School to make sure family families there have the resources they need.
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Adam Curry
Minneapolis Police Chief Brian o' Hara says.
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John C. Dvorak
The guns used in the shootings were purchased recently and legally by the suspect who died of a self inflicted gunshot wound. Yeah, which in his video he said he was going to use the pistol he had.
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Adam Curry
You know, they had, they constantly go on on NPR about how this is the guns were purchased legally. Nobody explains how he had all the money. These were not expensive.
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John C. Dvorak
A lot of gear there, A lot of gear.
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Adam Curry
And yeah, and they go on and on about they're trying to push the gun narrative as best they can. But one of the trans killers over the, over the six or seven that have been already come and gone, one of them was a trans female guy turned woman all tatted up who went into, I think it was a 7 and 11 with a hatchet and started hatcheting people to death and killed two or three people.
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John C. Dvorak
Now we know, yeah, we know knives are just as deadly. We see, look in the UK bombs.
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Adam Curry
You know, these kids, they can't get a gun. They say you can't get a gun. So you blow up the place, you're going to kill a lot more people that way. Or poison. I mean there's a lot of ways if you're a homicidal maniac to kill people. Anyway, let's, here's part two of this where they kind of go this is later. This is a very long report. It's boring. But I thought this little clip, this little sub clip was pretty good.
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John C. Dvorak
So the director of the FBI Cash Patel said on X that the shooter has been identified, quote, the shooter has.
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Adam Curry
Been identified as Robin Westman, a male.
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John C. Dvorak
Born as Robert Westman in 2020. Westman's mother applied to change the name of her 17 year old child from Robert to Robin. In court documents obtained by npr.
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Adam Curry
The mother, Grace Mary Grace Westman wrote.
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John C. Dvorak
Minor child identifies as female and wants her name to reflect that identification.
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Adam Curry
However, we not know how the person currently identified.
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John C. Dvorak
But the suicide note was signed as Robin and they can't even get the words out.
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Adam Curry
They don't know how identif he she identified but they signed it as Robin. That means they kind of identified as Robin still.
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John C. Dvorak
Yes.
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Adam Curry
So I mean this kind of reporting is terrible. And again, you know they could go through the trouble of digging up some, some court document which does take some work generally unless it's online which is possible in Minnesota but let's say whether it is or isn't it still takes some work. Then they can't track down the mom and, and just ask her a few questions or even show that she won't open the door which they used to do. They used to do knock. Yeah. Can you. I'm not talking to anybody, you know, that kind of thing. They won't even do that with this reporting. The mainstream media is so pissed poor. It's an embarrassment.
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John C. Dvorak
It's not piss poor. It's by design. They don't want to do it. They don't want to do it. They're told not to do it. Everything starts to fall apart when you lift up the layers of what's going on here. Children who want to be trans are either psyoped by their parents who bought into an unbelievable psychological operation. The pharmaceutical, the medical industrial complex. This just came out from the bmj. They did a survey. Sorry A study, research undisclosed financial conflicts of interest in DSM 5 that is the actual medical bible that determines what is a psychological problem and how it should be diagnosed and how it should be treated. And because 92 physicians based in the US who served as members of either panel N is 86 or task force on the DSM V with information recording the Centers for Medicare and Medical Services open Payments database. This period was chosen 2016 and 2019 to include the year that development of the DSM 5 began. In three years preceding the results, after duplicate names had been removed, 168 individuals were identified who served as either panel or task force. Members of the DSM 5 met the inclusion criteria of being a physician who was based in the US Therefore could be included in the open payments. Of these 92 individuals, 60%, that's 55, receive payments from industry. More than 60%, more than half, received payments from industry. This is the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, of which gender dysphoria is one of them. So they're just like, well, you know, we could. We got some drugs, we got some procedures. That's what all. All the plastic surgeons ran to. It's. It's. We need to just face it and just say, hey, this is what's been going on. Well, the Trump administration is doing something. A little something.
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Adam Curry
The Trump administration is threatening to pull.
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John C. Dvorak
Federal funding from state sex ed programs.
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Adam Curry
That mention transgender people. A division of the US Department of.
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John C. Dvorak
Health and Human Services told 40 states, five territories and the District of Columbia in a letter they are now on notice and must remove gender ideology content from sex ed materials paid through the.
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Adam Curry
State Personal Responsibility education program, or PREP.
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John C. Dvorak
PREP's goal is to prevent pregnancy and sexually transmitted infections. The Trump administration warns that if even.
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Adam Curry
A mere mention of gender identity or.
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John C. Dvorak
Transgender people is found in the curriculum.
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Adam Curry
The programs could risk losing potentially millions of dollars.
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John C. Dvorak
No, that's a good start. Stop teaching this stuff in school. And maybe it's time to get some of these dumb books out, even though they're under lock and key and blah, blah, blah. Stop it. And parents have a huge responsibility in this. Did you see the. I think you got the email from one of our producers who watches a particular YouTuber with her daughter, and she says, you know, this YouTuber does a lot of what you guys are doing, which she doesn't, but she does touch on some similar topics. Did you see it? Did you see it?
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Adam Curry
No.
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John C. Dvorak
Well, I have two clips that I pulled because it was really good. It's this British chick who sits in her bedroom and just goes, it's crazy. It's all crazy. So I cut her out and I just went to the two teachers that I thought had something interesting to say. The YouTuber is Halo Haley, and this is the first teacher who has a real problem with the presence of technology in her classroom. Technology is directly contributing to the literacy decrease we are seeing in this country right now. A lot of these kids don't know how to read because they have had things read to them or they can click a button and have something read out loud to them. Their attention spans are weaning because everything is high stimulation. They can just scroll, watch less than a minute. They can't sit still for very long. Something I've realized is like, you know, on a day. I know when I was their age, I thought movie days were a treat. I loved movie days. It was a way to relax, kind of take a break. And for them, what they mean when they say they want a movie is they want a movie on in the background for the noise while they scroll on their phones, put their headphones in and look at TikTok and maybe talk to their friends and not pay attention to anything. If I ask a child to hand write something, even just a paragraph, five sentences, basic paragraph, they roll their eyes, they throw tantrums, they. I'm talking about high schoolers. I teach 10th grade now. High schoolers, they get really, really unruly. And because I'm young too, they want to argue with me about it. And they want to say, why can't we just type it? Why can't we just type it? Well, it's because you'll go on another website or you'll copy or use AI, you'll use chat GPT. They don't. They don't care about making a difference in the world. They don't care about how to have a resume. They don't care how, I mean, how to write a resume. They don't care how to write a law kind of COVID letter because ChatGPT will just do it for them. And I think that we need to cut off technology from these kids probably until they go to college. So. Wow, you're banging a lot. What are you doing? You're banging around, man. Hello.
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Adam Curry
You go hang up the phone. Okay. The. She. She's mixing up the word technology with the word cell phone.
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John C. Dvorak
Yes. Well, I think they also have a lot of Chromebooks in school.
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Adam Curry
They might have some computers of some sort. But what she's really talking about is cell phone.
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John C. Dvorak
Yes.
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Adam Curry
Is the smartphone invented and promoted ever since 2007? They used to have them before, but 2007 is the beginning of the end. You can mark that date.
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John C. Dvorak
The second one is shorter. This is one to add to our list of can't tell time on an analog clock. Can't give ch change, doesn't know what FL ounces.
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Adam Curry
You can't read clock.
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John C. Dvorak
Yeah. Can't read Clock. Okay. Florida Ounces doesn't know what half a dozen is. This is a music teacher now. This is a music teacher. I teach music lessons and I'm a little bit concerned about my younger students, my Gen Alpha students. I would say under 10, maybe 12.
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Adam Curry
So here's an example.
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John C. Dvorak
I had a student a while back, I was doing a vocal warm up with them and they, they were probably about 9 or 10 years old and I was going to teach them an exercise that involves the months of the year in order. So when I started to teach them this exercise, they go, oh, I don't know the months. I don't know the months in order. And I was like, oh, well, maybe nine and ten year olds, fourth and fifth graders don't know the months. I was thinking back to when I was in first grade and my teacher had each of the calendar months like in a row in order with like all of our birthdays. I definitely learned the months when I was 6. Yeah, can't, don't, don't know the months.
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Adam Curry
Wow, that's another one to add to the list.
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John C. Dvorak
Yes.
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Adam Curry
It's pathetic. That's pathetic.
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John C. Dvorak
Now I think there's good news because I've seen some subtle and not so subtle shifts in our very own audience. The millennials are becoming very. Not. I'm generalizing here, so it's not everybody. The millennials are becoming somewhat nihilistic and they're just like. And by the way, millennials, no one's coming for you. No one's going to come and save you. Now Gen Z is switching and I'm getting a lot of emails from Gen Z and they give me a lot of hope. This is anonymous Ranchers, Gen Z, rancher, myself, who married a late millennial. Smoking hot wife. I would say we Gen Z and who had rope in late millennials saw what the millennials screwed up. We look further back to how our parents raised us before books not recommending spanking. We're back to spanking. We're back to. A lot of it started with that. When you think about it, when we stop spanking our kids, we're back to trying to have bigger families, staying together as a married couple. The generation before. Are you still laughing over that?
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Adam Curry
Yeah, it's very funny.
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John C. Dvorak
The generation before us showed us that giving your children iPads early on, horrible idea. Gen Z is also the generation where cursive stopped being taught and schools generally started teaching less relevant subjects. We had a high school math teacher stop class for a period and explain to us how credit card Companies screw you over with high interest rates. I used that day more than the rest of that Algebra 1 class altogether. On the whole, I would say Gen Z and the following generations are doubted by the older generations, just like generations before them into history, generally the same struggles, just new and more vices. I'm here to say, Gen Z, your boomer buddies are here for you. We will teach you the things that went wrong. We have been there. We know you're in the right place. You were at the right show to learn a few things. I have. You're still.
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Adam Curry
Everybody's at the right show.
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John C. Dvorak
You're still chuckling, you're still laughing. You know, Anne Marie Barton shows me that. Oh, there's a welding program at our high school in Philadelphia. There's good things happening. But millennials and anyone else for that matter, no one's coming to save you. Not the government, not your parents, not your podcasters. No one's coming to save you. Make your own choices and decisions. But I'm happy. I love this shift. I love the shift. I love the. The young people coming in to listen to. To the. To their uncles. I can handle it now. I'll just be a boomer. If it helps them, I'll be the boomer. I'll be the boomer.
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Adam Curry
We got a letter from one of our contributors today saying that you're really not a boomer.
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John C. Dvorak
No. Generation Jones, I think is what they call it. Yeah, whatever. I'll just. Look, I'm the face of Gen Z in a boomer body. What can I tell you? There's nothing I could. I stopped fighting that, people. You can be 20 and people will call you a boomer. That's just the way it is. It's just a slur.
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Adam Curry
It'll go away. It's just a slur. Yeah, it's just a slur is what it amounts to.
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John C. Dvorak
It's a slur, man.
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Adam Curry
It's about time, people. The B word. You're gonna have to get to that. I think it's a slur. And if people use it, they might as well be. Yes, it's just unacceptable.
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John C. Dvorak
I'm an outrage. I tell you. It's unacceptable. You can't be a boomer anyway.
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Adam Curry
So we're talking about this sort of bull crap. I do want to play these clips from one of the chief White House correspondent for cbs.
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John C. Dvorak
Yeah, this was quite good.
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Adam Curry
Now, people who never worked in broadcasting at all, they don't realize that you don't necessarily have a lot of friends in the control room at all. You might if you go in there and be nice. But very few people, especially only if.
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John C. Dvorak
You show an interest for what they do. You got to show it. I did this because I truly was.
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Adam Curry
I always. I always warmed up. The camera guys, lighting guy.
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John C. Dvorak
Yeah. Oh, the lighting guy.
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Adam Curry
Sound guy, the lighting. The sound guy. Well, I. When I was at Tech tv, I made a fuss about the. Because they. They had. The sound was crap when they first started out. And I found the sound guy, this guy is still around. Excuse me, Marshall Buick. And I went to him, I said, what the. Why is this sound? We all sound like shit on this show. Because I always had an ear for trying to have decent sound. And he says, yeah. And I said, why? He went, yeah. He said, yeah. I said, why? He says, we got cheap quality products. He says, I can't make it sound any better than the sounding. He says, somebody's gotta make a fuss. So I made a fuss.
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John C. Dvorak
Yeah.
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Adam Curry
And they got all this new gear in, and we sounded really good after that. And so I was a big buddy with the sound guy, so he had mic collections that he would loan. To this day, he'll loan me any number of crazy mics that he owns. But, you know, so you make. And then you want to make friends with the lighting guy because they can make you look like a really old guy, but they don't like you.
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John C. Dvorak
It is critical for people who are still in that kind of broadcasting these days. The iPhone does it all in the camera. It's all algorithms that may just make you look good no matter what. But when it comes to studio television with a control room that's doing, switching, the people there really appreciate if you know what their job is. I mean, I. I did audio for about 30% of MTV. I was there. Anyway, Rick Kelman, he. He died a few years, 10 years ago. He was the audio guy. And I'd be hanging out with him at the time, mainly because this is another tip. The audio guys always have the best weed. So he had the connections, everything, and that, you know, he would go take a dump in my dressing room and I'd just do audio. And the director, no one knew it.
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Adam Curry
He'd take a dump in your dressing room.
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John C. Dvorak
We were.
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Adam Curry
Clean that up.
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John C. Dvorak
We were friends. It's like I had the only dressing room with the bathroom, and he was the bonus.
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Adam Curry
You didn't make that clear.
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John C. Dvorak
Here's the bonus. This is before email. So I. In my dressing room were at any moment 11 to 12 postal sacks, old school postal sacks filled with postcards and Letters. And the agreement was whoever was taking a dump had to go through a couple of letters and if anything good popped out pictures, for example, we'd lay those aside. But back to the point, if you just hold on to the line producer, you know, that guy's hated in the control room. You want to make good with the director, you want to be interested in what they're doing, the technical director who's switching, and the audio. And then also at the time we had the tape guys in the back, because you'd have a roll in, you'd have a seven second delay because it had to spin up. You know, this is. I'm going way back now. So if you, if you still see it today, like, well, let's roll that clip. And it still takes forever. That's just the delay between you and the control room and the control rooms and the director saying, roll the clip. So I would be with you. I'd say, okay, here's where I'm going to end this sentence. I'll end it with this. So you can kind of time it. So everything was tight. Well, everyone else was doing coke with Billy Idol. I was doing that.
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Adam Curry
So the point is, is that the control room guys, when you're doing the feed before you, you're on the air, they can record it.
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John C. Dvorak
Yeah.
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Adam Curry
And when they record it, this is the hot mic moment. You know, how did this recording of a hot mic get out? Somebody in the control room recorded it and they kept it, put it aside, and then they released it one way or another. And out it comes to make you look like an idiot. Very. So you don't want that. You don't want to be looking like.
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John C. Dvorak
No.
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Adam Curry
By the way, just to go. Since we're just doing an assault, I think that these end of shows where they show all the bloopers or the guy screwing up left and right and left and right. I think that is part of the same idea of making you look like an idiot.
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John C. Dvorak
You always feel it's insulting.
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Adam Curry
They do this for the sole purpose of making the talent look like an idiot, because everyone hates talent.
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John C. Dvorak
Hey, next time you have a thousand dollar dinner with Brunetti, ask him if that's the same vibe in movies, because movies will often do this. They'll show all the bloopers at the end during the credits.
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Adam Curry
I will ask him, is that also.
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John C. Dvorak
Just the producer like kind of getting his last hurrah, saying, we spent an extra $500,000 because these people couldn't stop cracking up or couldn't remember their lines?
- [32:48]
Adam Curry
Yeah, I think that it has to be.
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John C. Dvorak
Yeah.
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Adam Curry
Because that's the only thing that makes any sense because it's not that entertaining. So here we have this woman who is the chief White House correspondent for cbs.
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John C. Dvorak
That's the best part.
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Adam Curry
And I want to. I have a comment about that. And then TMZ Live did something very similar. I didn't record it, but. So she's the. She's the chief White House correspondent. She is the go to girl, Olivia Rinaldi at cbs. And somebody recorded her just before she did her hit. It's what's called a hit when you come on.
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John C. Dvorak
Yep.
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Adam Curry
So she comes on to do her hit, but in the meantime, she's doing a mic check and she's doing all the rest of it. And somebody's recording it and somebody released it. And here's what it sounded like.
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John C. Dvorak
Taylor Swift is engaged. Taylor Swift is engaged. Taylor Swift is engaged. This. Come back to me. She just posted it. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
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Adam Curry
Oh, it's huge.
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John C. Dvorak
The ring is ginormous. This is so exciting. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. It's on her Instagram. It's on her Instagram. It's on her Instagram. Oh, my God.
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Adam Curry
Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
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John C. Dvorak
I feel like Paul Revere right now. It loses just a little bit when you don't see that big mouth of hers go like she's ready for a fish to be slopped in there. You know what I mean?
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Adam Curry
Yeah.
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John C. Dvorak
Kind of miss you lose a little pretty bad. Yes.
- [34:17]
Adam Curry
And. And oh, my God.
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John C. Dvorak
Oh, my God. It's ginormous. The ring is ginormous. It's on Instagram.
- [34:25]
Adam Curry
So this is.
- [34:25]
John C. Dvorak
This is.
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Adam Curry
It indicates to me that this is an idiot.
- [34:30]
John C. Dvorak
Yes.
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Adam Curry
And she's chief White House correspondent. So then they. They cut to the hit. Now, this is the record. This is the part that actually went over the air. She's still giddy, but she's calmed down. Her voice has gotten to his professional level, but she still can't get over this remarkable news that, you know, this publicity stunt of the highest order because they both actually work for the same publicist more. Or we discovered this years ago. Two years ago, when they got together. It was bull crap.
- [35:03]
John C. Dvorak
Yes.
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Adam Curry
And they were forced. Forced to be a couple. And. And then, of course, we'll talk more later. But now here she is under normal, almost normal circumstance.
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John C. Dvorak
This is a very exciting moment for me in my professional career because I get to announce that Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce she's not even being ironic. She really means that. This is an exciting moment because she's like Paul Revere in her professional career. She gets to announce it. She has breaking news, everybody. This is a very exciting moment for me in my professional career because I get to announce that Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce are engaged.
- [35:40]
Adam Curry
As you're talking to Joe Lange, our.
- [35:42]
John C. Dvorak
Lovely producer Gabby Ache texted me and said, taylor Swift's engaged. And you can see it right there on her social media. She put it up in that post that they got engaged with the caption, your English teacher and your gym teacher are getting married with a little dynamite. Dynamite. Sign there. So very exciting here that we get to break that and tell you about that. All right. Swifties for life. I have a feeling, though, based on his prior statements, the president will not be having a Taylor Swift wedding in the ballroom.
- [36:12]
Adam Curry
Hopefully that can shift and change.
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John C. Dvorak
We can have some world peace, right, Olivia Rinaldi, you know, Reed, I volunteer to cover it in case you need. I'll be there to cover it. Thank you for sacrifice, Olivia. We appreciate you, my friend. Oh, my God. That is amazing. Exactly. It's amazing.
- [36:31]
Adam Curry
Unbelievable.
- [36:32]
John C. Dvorak
It's amazing. It's amazing.
- [36:35]
Adam Curry
Well, anyway, so tmz, well, just to mention this, because I saw this, too. TMZ Live. I just turned it on for. Just for casually. And they were doing a very interesting story about some rapper who is a psychopath. Big shocker. And right in the middle of it, one of the staffers, one of the kind of the little slightly overweight blonde that's always sitting around making comments in their little newsroom, they have. She comes in and she is beside herself with the. Holding a phone. Same kind of thing. Taylor Swift. And. And they all got all the whole. They stopped. They basically, as a showstopper, they stopped to report on this, on the rapper. And. And even Harry. Or is it Harry Levin?
- [37:25]
John C. Dvorak
Yes.
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Adam Curry
He's like. He got giddy because he's a big Swifty, and they rush over to the computer because he's got to check it out to make sure it's true. And he's on the machine himself, and he's looking it up, and it was embarrassing.
- [37:40]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah.
- [37:42]
Adam Curry
What is wrong with these people?
- [37:43]
John C. Dvorak
Well, there's a lot wrong. And just kind of back to the phones and social media. I saw this guy developed an app. I think it's called the Parallels app. And it looks just like Instagram. It looks like you're doing an Instagram live. Or as we say, I'm doing a live. Only it Makes it look like you have 40 or 50,000 people watching live at that moment. And so, and I think this is available in the App Store. And so the guy goes right up to doorman at clubs, like there was an art gallery, you know, all kinds of celebrities inside. And he shows to the bouncer, hey man, I'm live right now. We got 49,000 people. And the bouncer's like, oh. And then he calls over the managers like, yeah, come on in. The guy is in the VIP lounge and the women, the women who just go, oh, hey, hi. Shout out to my peeps. They're dancing, they're showing their bodies off. People lose their everlong loving minds because they think they have an audience. It is a very, very troubling thing to see, but also a great hack to get in everywhere. Like, hey man, I'm live right now. Look at this. And you see all the, the people streaming by, you know, chatting and waving etc on the, on the screen. Great idea, but it shows you, it shows you how egotistical we've become. Just crazy.
- [39:13]
Adam Curry
I like that bit.
- [39:14]
John C. Dvorak
It's a great bit. Can I just do a few AI things for a second, get it out of the way. This is enough.
- [39:22]
Adam Curry
It's kind of a, it's a harsh transition, but sure.
- [39:26]
John C. Dvorak
Well, I'm trying to stay. Phones, technology, I'm trying to, I'm trying to stay in that vein. So this was bound to happen. We knew it happened. But now the lawsuits come out.
- [39:36]
Adam Curry
A California family is suing Open AI.
- [39:39]
John C. Dvorak
Saying ChatGPT encouraged their teenage son to take his own life. The lawsuit claims that 16 year old Adam Rain developed a deep emotional dependence on the chat bot which repeatedly encouraged him to die by suicide, they say.
- [39:53]
Adam Curry
In detailed methods of self harm instead.
- [39:55]
John C. Dvorak
Of guiding him toward help. The parents found thousands of messages between their son and the bot showing that it became a sort of suicide coach instead of offering support. OpenAI now so says it is working to strengthen ChatGPT safeguards in the light of the tragedy. If you or someone you know is in crisis, call 988 to be connected to the suicide and crisis lifeline. Of course they can't do any of that and discovery will be phenomenal. Thousands and thousands of pages of this kid being psyoped.
- [40:27]
Adam Curry
Hey, put me on a jury for this. You know where I'm head could be headed. You know, the biggest possible settlement in favor of the parents and against these operations. This is a liability issue that they better get to real quick and then, and they should be sued.
- [40:46]
John C. Dvorak
But they Can't. They can't do it. You can't put guardrails around. They don't even know how it works. It just kind of works. And then the. Sorry.
- [40:56]
Adam Curry
If they, they sued that girl, if you remember, the one who. Some girlfriend of a guy who encouraged her boyfriend to kill himself. You remember, it was a few years ago and she lost the suit. It was some. I forget what type of suit it was. It was wrongful death, I think. And I don't see why you can't sue these chatgpt for this.
- [41:22]
John C. Dvorak
Oh, definitely. They have no indemnity or immunity.
- [41:26]
Adam Curry
They have to be sued. They have to be sued. The same doctors who do the, the, the surgeries for trans. They have to be.
- [41:34]
John C. Dvorak
Oh, it's coming.
- [41:34]
Adam Curry
The pharmaceutical companies have to be sued. The doctors, the, the clinics have to be sued. You have to. The lawyers. Come on. Lawyers.
- [41:43]
John C. Dvorak
Hey, Rob, step up. Boots and suits. Come on, man, let's go sue some companies. So here is the chief financial officer of OpenAI on CNBC in the morning with that Sorkin kid. Her name is Sarah Fryer and she. And I wish I had video because she's very odd. Odd expression she makes. And so, of course, the conversation is, well, you know, chat GPT5, it was hailed as the big thing. And, you know, people are kind of grumbling about. They're being so careful. Oh, we don't want to blow the bubble of AI. Maybe it's getting a little better. But listen to what the complaints were because that's really what this is all about. It's not for coding. Yeah, it does some things. It's. It's certainly not for writing, which I'll get to in a moment. It's really for people just to love as their AI.
- [42:37]
Adam Curry
Joining us right now, though, at the table, this is not gray at all. An exclusive interview with OpenAI's CFO Sarah. Sarah Fryer at the table.
- [42:45]
John C. Dvorak
It's nice to see you.
- [42:47]
Adam Curry
We talked to Sam just about two weeks ago now. When chat Sam GPT5 launched. There was a little bit of consternation in the week since about sort of what is going on with the model, some shifts in the model. I will say that it seems like it's gotten a little bit better from some of the problems that first emerged right out of the gate. Have you been experiencing this?
- [43:12]
John C. Dvorak
What kind of financial question is this? Have you been experiencing this? Hey, has it hit your bottom line, Chief financial Officer?
- [43:21]
Adam Curry
From some of the problems that first emerged right out of the gate, have you been experiencing this?
- [43:27]
John C. Dvorak
So I mean, I think with any launch when you have 700 million weekly active users, you start to find people are very opinionated. They've come to love their chat GPT and frankly released things like memory. It's become more and more your chatbots. But as we've come out of the gate, we're seeing actually acceleration in plus and Pro subscriptions. That's a good sign. People are seeing a lot of value and we're seeing really nice momentum in the enterprise. Great momentum with developers in the enterprise. Great momentum. That means bull crap. Those are bull crap words. Yes.
- [44:01]
Adam Curry
Just to throw a little sidebar here, jc, who's in this stuff? He says it in the community. The community?
- [44:10]
John C. Dvorak
The community. Oh, the community.
- [44:13]
Adam Curry
Everyone thinks ChatGPT5 is a complete fail.
- [44:17]
John C. Dvorak
Yes.
- [44:19]
Adam Curry
And everybody knows it.
- [44:21]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah. And if anything, it costs more because of this router thing they put in the middle. And just as I'll do another aside, I keep reading these news bulletins about these AI geniuses who are being poached. And then, you know, for 100 million, 250 million, from OpenAI to Meta to Google, then back to OpenAI, they're just raising their price. Is this AI smart or what? I thought that this stuff could do it all for you. You got to get some nerds. Who are you going to overpay grossly to come in and do it for you? And I think they're all unloading them on Elon Musk. Good luck with that.
- [45:05]
Adam Curry
Yeah, Elon seems to be catching the.
- [45:08]
John C. Dvorak
I'm buying them all up. Yeah, we're going to be the top of the bill. Oh, it's going to be fantastic. Meanwhile, Grok, remember the guy I told you about? We were at his house for a dinner, this is a while back, and he is in the data center business.
- [45:22]
Adam Curry
Yes, I remember that.
- [45:24]
John C. Dvorak
And so the conversation I had with him at the time, because I'm like, this is a nice house. And he's talking about data science. Oh, wait, so you basically, you are for. You're building stuff for compute. Says, yep, that's what we're doing then. And asked him who his customers were. And I'm like, you know, it seems like it's. This was when the articles were coming out that Google had canceled a couple contracts and which of course, well, that's not true. But he said, it doesn't matter because private equity came in, we've been bought out. I said, ah, hence the house. He says, yep, yeah. And now I hear, surprise, surprise, all salaries at that company are being cut by A third this year, they'll cut another third next year. This is over. This is what private equity does. They've already flipped it, they've already sold it on and now they're just stripping away the parts and there'll be nothing but a mountain of debt left. And then someone will come in and scoop up these data centers for pennies on the dollar. So these are all signals that something is afoot. I'm with you. It probably won't happen tomorrow. It's going to take longer. But then we have.
- [46:37]
Adam Curry
And by the way, private equity has pulled an interesting stunt. They have somehow wrangled the ability for people to put private equity firms into their 401s.
- [46:48]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah, that's part of Trump's.
- [46:50]
Adam Curry
So everybody knows what that means. It's a way to, you know, because these guys are, this is some sort of, the private equity thing going on in, in this era is something of a scam and they're gonna, they're gonna lay it off on the public. Just what they all, all the big.
- [47:08]
John C. Dvorak
Boys always push it into the, into the retirement funds.
- [47:11]
Adam Curry
And so when the whole thing collapses, which it will because they can't sustain, they've already, they, they soak, they soak everybody. They take the money, buy the, you know, your buddy has a big house, he benefited. Yeah, will benefit. But the, the people that won't benefit are the public, public at large who's got this crap in their 401k.
- [47:32]
John C. Dvorak
And I should also say that either he takes the third salary cut, he's 61, so he's not probably going to get another job. If he takes the salary cut and wants to stay on with another third salary cut next year, he also has to sign a one year non compete. Yes. It's like, wow, you know, and he doesn't really want to stop working but you know, he kind of has to. There's just no, there's no, there's no way out for him. Oh, speaking of data centers, just the latest. Listen to the bull crap at the end of this report. New at 5:30, Google is investing $9 billion in Virginia through 2026. The announcement came this morning at a community celebration with state and local leaders. Google says the money will be spent on cloud and AI infrastructure, including the development of a new data center in Chesterfield county near the Meadowdale Technology Park. The company also detailed expanded education and workforce development programs for Virginians. Google's commitment to invest, to hire and to help prepare our students for a great future is extraordinary and I think a great testament to what Virginia office offers today, which is a great place for people to do business, but an even better place for Virginians to find opportunity. In the past, we've shared the voices of community members concerned about the impact of data centers on the local power and water grids and on their wallets. Google says its data centers operate in the most energy efficient way in the industry and that the company is committed to increasing energy energy capacity and affordability for all Virginians by doing things like investing in innovative technology like fusion energy. Google also reports the company is working with the county to stay within the water system guidelines. You'd get a kick out of that. Don't worry, people. We're investing in fusion. It'll be fine. Fusion we'll take. We'll make you whole on the back end. It's going to be fine.
- [49:33]
Adam Curry
Now, unfortunately, this is like bringing Quantum into the picture.
- [49:37]
John C. Dvorak
Oh, it'll come as a solution. It'll come. Unfortunately, our president is so all in on this and has nothing but ass kissers. You know, just the whole thing is just disgusting. He believes it so much he's like, oh yeah, this is it. Because you know, how could all these smart people be wrong? What he needs is the Curry Dvorak Consulting Group to come into the Oval Office and lay it down and say, Mr. President, stop this insanity. And no, no. In fact, we're going to take it one step further. What could be worse than getting your kindergarteners to high schoolers to grade 12 in on this nonsense and doing it with sweet little Melania. Are you ready for an AI challenge? Take part in this nationwide initiative to discover, develop and expand AI's potential. As someone who created an AI powered audiobook and champion online safety through the Take it Down Act, I've seen firsthand the promise of this powerful technology. Now I pass the torch of innovation to you. Just as America once led the world world into the skies, we are poised to lead again. This time in the age of AI. The President's National Artificial Intelligence Challenge invites every student in America from kindergarten to 12th grade to unleash their imagination and showcase the spirit of American innovation. Our educators leaders will guide and empower you through this process to build a brighter, stronger future for us all. Visit AI.gov to register today. Good luck. Our educators will guide the process. Oh no. This is a disaster. They're encouraging this stuff. Oh yeah. We won't be able to keep up with China if we don't have our kids all talking to their chatgpt.
- [51:56]
Adam Curry
Boo.
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John C. Dvorak
And then for you, as a Writer, I think this is my final clip. I'll stop for you as a writer. And this was interesting. There was also one of our producers wrote an article, I put it in the show notes about a chatbots, let's just call them chatbots. Using very performative language. And that's how it kind of, of makes you feel good the whole time. But it's not really saying that you're great. It's using performatives. I think that you're really good or it seems or apparently, I mean there's all these different words that just make you feel good. And this assistant professor of computational linguistic studies, Tom Juzek, he points out the fluff words that these chatbots use. And you as a writer I think will enjoy this. Mix it AI models or use certain words like multifaceted realm, intricate, surpass, underscore. Sometimes we call them AI fluff words. Reason being that these adjectives, they qualify, they don't add that much to language. What we have seen is that a lot of these words that the models overuse are now popping up in human language as well, both in written language and now. Now what we had been observing is, okay, these words are also popping up in spoken language. The question is, why do we observe this in speech? Is it because this is natural language change as we've seen it in the past, or is it in relation to these AI models? There is the potential that the AI models are putting words into our mouths, into our minds, but really there's entire discourse similar to what we are discussing for words, for beliefs, human behavior, human beliefs, political beliefs, moral beliefs. So even the possibility that these models are putting words and thoughts into our minds, that is something that we really want to carefully study. Yeah, carefully studies. Knock it off. Just knock it off. AI fluff words.
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Adam Curry
Which brings us to another situation with words, which I want to bring into the show, which is based on the Third Way, Third Way Group. It's a consulting group that's basically a bunch of Clinton esque people with their list of words that they, they want Democrats to stop saying.
- [54:37]
John C. Dvorak
Oh, I read about this.
- [54:41]
Adam Curry
And I want to go over these because they actually left stuff out.
- [54:45]
John C. Dvorak
This is the words, believe it or not, like patriotism and.
- [54:49]
Adam Curry
Well, no, the Democrats stopped saying that a long time ago. No, they want people to stop saying things. And I want to go over this list, if you don't mind.
- [55:00]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah, yeah, I'm all in.
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Adam Curry
They have it categorized. I found the original article and so they categorized it and nobody really. They kind of brought the whole list but they. They don't know how quite to do it, to attack it, because it's just too much here. But this is the. The list of words they're trying to get Democrats to stop saying because it's hurting the cause. And there's thing called therapy. Speak these words say I'm more empathetic than you and that you are a callous person. And these words that have to go are Privilege.
- [55:36]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah, okay. Privilege. Yeah.
- [55:38]
Adam Curry
Violence as an environmental. Violence. Dialoguing. Othering. Hold on. What?
- [55:49]
John C. Dvorak
We. We. We are dialoguing twice a week and we other a lot.
- [55:55]
Adam Curry
Othering. Triggering.
- [55:57]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah, Good luck.
- [55:58]
Adam Curry
Microaggression. Assault and invalidation.
- [56:03]
John C. Dvorak
Dude, the Democrats won't be able to say anything. You take all these words out, they'll.
- [56:07]
Adam Curry
Be like, this is only one of the segments. Progressive stack. I haven't heard that one.
- [56:14]
John C. Dvorak
Progressive stack is good. I like that.
- [56:16]
Adam Curry
I know that. I think that's a good one too, to be honest about it. Centering safe space.
- [56:24]
John C. Dvorak
Oh, we can't get rid of that. What?
- [56:27]
Adam Curry
Holding space and body shaming.
- [56:32]
John C. Dvorak
Well, what's left for them?
- [56:34]
Adam Curry
Well, we got more. That's just one category. Then we move to seminar room language, which is the language that says, I'm smarter than you and concerned about important issues that you aren't. And we have. And these are phrases more than. They are just words, but we have subverting norms. I have never heard that.
- [56:58]
John C. Dvorak
No. Well, we're not in those boardrooms, so.
- [57:01]
Adam Curry
Systems of oppression.
- [57:03]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah, that's a good one.
- [57:04]
Adam Curry
Critical theory for that. Cultural appropriation. Woo.
- [57:09]
John C. Dvorak
Big one.
- [57:10]
Adam Curry
Postmodernism. Overton window. What is the over. I keep forgetting what the Overton window is.
- [57:20]
John C. Dvorak
Well, I think we should probably go to our favorite chatbot and ask our chatbot to explain to us in very certain terms, what is the Overton window? Oh, the Overton window. It's the range of ideas the public considers acceptable at a given time. Like what's okay to talk about without sounding totally out there. It shifts as society's values or political climate change. Think of it as a window of normal that moves left, right, or wider based on what people are ready to hear. For example, ideas once seen as fringe, like nervous health care, can slide into the window as attitudes evolve. It's named after Joseph Overton, who came up with the concept to explain what policymakers can realistically push. Pretty neat way to think about what's in or out in public discourse. Want me to dive deeper techno? No, no, no, of course not. I don't want you to dive deeper what is this? That should be outlawed. Let's dive in deeper.
- [58:21]
Adam Curry
That's not on the list, but you're right. Dive in, dive deeper. Deep dive.
- [58:25]
John C. Dvorak
That needs to go.
- [58:27]
Adam Curry
And the last on the seminar room language is heuristic and existential. Threat to anything.
- [58:35]
John C. Dvorak
They will have nothing left.
- [58:37]
Adam Curry
Well, wait a minute. There's more categories.
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John C. Dvorak
Hi, I'm a Democrat. Thank you.
- [58:44]
Adam Curry
Organizer jargon. These words say we are beholden to groups, not individuals. People have no agency.
- [58:54]
John C. Dvorak
Agency.
- [58:55]
Adam Curry
This is a common problem with the Democrats, which is you. You're not an individual.
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John C. Dvorak
Yeah. You're part of the group. Hey, hey. Ho, ho. Mic check, mic check.
- [59:03]
Adam Curry
Radical transparency. Small D democracy. So you're. In other words, you're not supposed to say yes. Well, that's like small D democracy.
- [59:17]
John C. Dvorak
Is this group run by. Run by the Trump Organization.
- [59:22]
Adam Curry
It's a political bunch of Clinton.
- [59:24]
John C. Dvorak
Really?
- [59:25]
Adam Curry
Clintonistas. Yeah.
- [59:26]
John C. Dvorak
Interesting.
- [59:27]
Adam Curry
Barriers to participation. I always use barriers to sales stakeholders. Is no good. No good?
- [59:37]
John C. Dvorak
No. Can't do that.
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Adam Curry
The unhoused food insecurity, man. Housing insecurity. And person who immigrated.
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John C. Dvorak
Do they have birthing persons on this thing somewhere?
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Adam Curry
Yeah, it's coming. They don't have. They have person who immigrated. They have housing unhoused. And other stuff comes up. This is. The next one is gender orientation. Correctness. These say your views are. Or traditional on gender. And gender roles are at best quaint. Birthing person. Inseminated person.
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John C. Dvorak
Hold on. I think that should stay. I like inseminated person.
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Adam Curry
Yeah. It also applies to gay guys. Pregnant people.
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John C. Dvorak
Yeah.
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Adam Curry
Chest feeding.
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John C. Dvorak
Oh, my Lord.
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Adam Curry
Cisgender.
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John C. Dvorak
Yeah.
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Adam Curry
Dead naming. Wow.
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John C. Dvorak
It's everything.
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Adam Curry
Heteronormative. You're right. The Democrats have nothing to say. Heteronormative patriarchy and lgbtqia. It's gotta go.
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John C. Dvorak
They really will have nothing left now.
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Adam Curry
What they didn't put on this list is another one missing front hole.
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John C. Dvorak
They did not put that on the list.
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Adam Curry
No, it's not in the list.
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John C. Dvorak
I'm with you. I think that should be on the list. Wow.
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Adam Curry
And then we move to the next. I can go. I'm like, this is ending soon. This is. The shifting language of racial constructs is next.
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John C. Dvorak
Yes. Latinx. African American community.
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Adam Curry
Well, you got.
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John C. Dvorak
You know, am I there? Am I getting there?
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Adam Curry
You know, it's funny, somebody on Fox called it Latinx.
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John C. Dvorak
Latinx.
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Adam Curry
Latinx.
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John C. Dvorak
Okay.
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Adam Curry
But you got that right?
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John C. Dvorak
Yeah.
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Adam Curry
Latinx is number one.
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John C. Dvorak
Yeah, of course. Course. It's stupid.
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Adam Curry
Number two is bipoc.
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John C. Dvorak
Oh, yes. Get rid of that one.
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Adam Curry
Bipoc. Alish. Allyship. And here's the whopper that they're never going to get rid of. Intersectionality.
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John C. Dvorak
No, no. So is anyone listening to this group?
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Adam Curry
Well, it got some play on the right wing media, but of course not.
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John C. Dvorak
Of course it did this.
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Adam Curry
The last list is explaining away crime.
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John C. Dvorak
Okay, wait, wait, let me guess, let me guess. Defund the police. What else would be in there? I don't know. I'm interested. Defund the police.
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Adam Curry
Yeah. Defunded police is not on here because it's not about. It's about the buzz terms that are used like thus. There's only four words or four phrases. Justice involved. In other words, these are phrases you use to not say, you know, criminal. You don't want to say the word criminal.
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John C. Dvorak
Oh, yes.
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Adam Curry
Is a justice involved person.
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John C. Dvorak
Involved person. Yes, I got it. Okay.
- [62:50]
Adam Curry
This is an interesting one because I never heard anyone using it, but it's. But carceration.
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John C. Dvorak
Carceration. Not incarceration, but carceration.
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Adam Curry
No, there's carceration and there's incarcerated people. People.
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John C. Dvorak
Oh, man.
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Adam Curry
And then the last one is involuntary confinement, I. E. In jail, I guess. In jail.
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John C. Dvorak
Well, this is, you know, I hope they listen to it. This is a good start. If we. Words matter, you know, start will not.
- [63:23]
Adam Curry
Get rid of one of these terms.
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John C. Dvorak
Well, keep that list handy so we can flag them and we can call out violations of the third way list, whatever it is.
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Adam Curry
Yeah, well, the Democrats are way beyond this.
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John C. Dvorak
Meanwhile, things are finally coming to a head, strangely enough, in Canada, as there's a clash now there's a clash between the qs and the LGBs. I think it's the LGBs, but maybe there's some T's in there. It's a clash. It's a clash because now we have conflicting agendas. The group clearly Queers for Palestine, Ottawa blocking Ottawa's annual Pride Parade. So you couldn't hear it. The Queers for Palestine and Ottawa, that's who's doing this. The group Queers for Palestine, Ottawa blocking Ottawa's annual Pride Parade Sunday afternoon, bringing the festivities to a halt. We had staged a disruption of the parade to say our demands to both Capitol Pride's executive director and board of directors and to the mayor. We were looking for apologies from the mayor, in particular for boycotting last year and for encouraging other powerful institutions to boycott the parade. The group halted the parade to demand the apology from not only the mayor, Mark Sutcliffe, but also other organizations that pulled out of the Capitol Pride events last year when organizers issued a statement condemning is real. The mayor said he would not come up and talk to us. And even when communicated that the parade would then disperse if we didn't move, he still refused to come up and talk to us. In a statement, Ottawa's mayor said in part, it's deeply regrettable that a group of activists chose to block the parade, ultimately leading Capitol Pride officials to cancel the event. My heart goes out to the many people in our city who were deprived of the opportunity to participate in the celebration of joy, resilience and community.
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Adam Curry
I am sad I didn't get to march, but I'm definitely way sadder for.
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John C. Dvorak
The people who are experiencing a lot of hardship over in Palestine.
- [65:31]
Adam Curry
And this is a way to get a really good message out.
- [65:34]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah, really good message. So this Queers against the LGBTs is a problem.
- [65:40]
Adam Curry
Unbelievable.
- [65:41]
John C. Dvorak
Queers for Palestine. Hey, maybe we should roll right into the executive order on Flagburn burning. Because I got an email. I get these a lot. Shall I do the voice?
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Adam Curry
Oh, is it one of those guys? It's the guy. It's that guy.
- [65:59]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah, it's Spencer.
- [66:00]
Adam Curry
Of course.
- [66:00]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah.
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Adam Curry
I want you to do that guy's voice.
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John C. Dvorak
You two are just. Trump is right about everything, guys. You're anti war until it's a Trump war. I can't wait to hear you defend him for executive order banning flag burning. I'm sure you know it's covered under free speech. But Trump is right again. I'm sure you've got the other kind of tds.
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Adam Curry
Oh, well, that brings me to a couple of clips from one from Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden.
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John C. Dvorak
Well, first I. I replied to him, of course. I said, I'm sorry, what war did he start and where's the executive order? And he said, well, the bombing in Iran, which was done to please Israel, was an act of war. It didn't escalate into a bigger war. You got me this there. But don't think those actions don't radicalize people in the Middle East. It's silly. And do you really think it was about Iran not having nukes? I said no. In fact, if you had listened to what we said, I thought it was about brics and China, honestly.
- [67:04]
Adam Curry
Yeah, that's exactly true. That's what your thesis was. So this guy's completely. He's not listening.
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John C. Dvorak
No, of course not. There's a gang out there, you know, and. And it goes kind of like. Like this. You've lost the plot. Curry, this is Dvorak, is the same, but you've lost the plot. Yes. It's probably true.
- [67:27]
Adam Curry
At least they like me more.
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John C. Dvorak
I. I did read the executive order. So let's play your clips and then we can just.
- [67:33]
Adam Curry
Yeah, let's play this. I just want. This is, I think, good to know. This is Hillary in 2006, and she's talking about flag burning. Hillary Clinton.
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John C. Dvorak
So I hope, Mr. President, that we can pass a law that criminalizes flag burning and desecration. I agree that this burning, this desecration that can happen to our flag is something that people have a right to ask this body to try to prohibit and prevent. Yeah, of course.
- [68:03]
Adam Curry
This body, that's Hillary. Let's go back another decade to Joe Biden back in the 90s, and he had this to say.
- [68:10]
John C. Dvorak
In my view, it doesn't matter why you burn, burn or mutilate or trample on the flag, you should not do it. What holds us together As a nation.
- [68:21]
Adam Curry
Mr. President, is not a common language, although I think that is necessary. It is the national symbol. The reason it is worth preserving is.
- [68:31]
John C. Dvorak
Because it unifies this diverse nation.
- [68:34]
Adam Curry
The flag's unique place in our national.
- [68:36]
John C. Dvorak
Life means that we should preserve it.
- [68:39]
Adam Curry
Against all, all manner of destruction, a statute making it unlawful to burn, mutilate.
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John C. Dvorak
Or trample upon any flag of the United States, period. It doesn't matter who burns or mutilates or tramples the flag, and it doesn't matter why, under my proposal, be unlawful to do the flag harm. No if, ands or buts.
- [69:01]
Adam Curry
Tell everyone they can't burn the flag.
- [69:05]
John C. Dvorak
Now, what do you think this is really about? Including Trump. Why. Why do these presidential people, Hillary not being a president, but a presidential president adjacent person with a front hole, what do you think that the message really is? Why do they make a big deal out of this?
- [69:31]
Adam Curry
I don't know, to be honest about it. Why necessarily, unless it's to exhibit some form of patriotism? Because the flag is symbolic, right?
- [69:42]
John C. Dvorak
So it's, it's, it's about patriotism. Now, my stance, and I think you'll agree with me, you want to burn the flag, you can wear the flag. I mean, there's been lawsuits about that, too. Abby Hoffman, legend. Wow, there's a name. Does anyone remember Abby Hoffman, steal this book? Probably not.
- [70:01]
Adam Curry
Nobody does. Boomer. That just.
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John C. Dvorak
That's a true Boomer moment. I read that when I was probably 10 men steal this book.
- [70:08]
Adam Curry
It's a great book.
- [70:09]
John C. Dvorak
I think I stole it from the American Women's Library in Amsterdam. So burning anything like that is obviously falls under your freedom to express yourself and Although I don't like it. It's like, fine, whatever. But that's not what the executive order says. It's very clear what this is about. Although it's squirmy, swarmy, squirmy, whatever you want to call it. Smarmy, smarmy. There you go. Notwithstanding the Supreme Court's rulings on First Amendment protections, which is burning the flag, the court has never held that American flag desecration conducted in a manner that is likely to incite imminent lawless action, or that is an action amounting to fighting. Words. Words is constitutionally protected. So what the president, and this is just a minor part of the executive order, what he's trying to say here is, well, if you burn a flag and it causes a riot, or if there's a riot and you're burning a flag, I think if you're inciting a riot, no matter what, whether you burn a flag or not is, you know, that's a problem. But what this is really about is illegal immigrants burning the American flag, or even visa holders who are here visiting, visa, visit, visiting. And I, I'm on board with that. If you want to come here and you want to work here, and you want to be a part of our society, then don't go burning our flag. I'm okay with that. And I'm not. And you know, I, that, that to me is like, get out. Just get out. If you don't care about us, about our flag and what it stands for, then get out. But in general, if you want to burn a flag, okay, you can be a douchebag. People burn themselves. It's fine too.
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Adam Curry
Well, you know, it's a hate crime and illegal to burn a gay pride flag.
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John C. Dvorak
Is it really?
- [72:13]
Adam Curry
Yes.
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John C. Dvorak
Is that a hate crime?
- [72:15]
Adam Curry
Yeah.
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John C. Dvorak
Well, I didn't know that you can.
- [72:18]
Adam Curry
Burn the American flag.
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John C. Dvorak
What is a hate crime exactly?
- [72:22]
Adam Curry
It's just exhibiting some sort of targeted hatred toward a group, a specific group that could be identified as a minority.
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John C. Dvorak
But what this comes, this comes down to the same thing, you know, yelling fire in a crowded theater. You are in fact allowed to yell fire in a crowded theater. If you do that with intent to cause a stampede and people die, it's a different story. That's one of the most. Between that and the so called separation clause, the non existent separation clause. Those are two of the biggest lies about the U.S. constitution. Like, oh, you can't yoke fire in a crowded theater. Yeah, you can. Sure you can. But if you do it with the intent to hurt people with A stampede and someone gets hurt, you got a problem. And that concludes our constitutional lesson.
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Adam Curry
Your little pitch for today. I'm glad I got the Hillary thing in there, that's for sure.
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John C. Dvorak
That concludes our little pitch for today, children. But I'm not too worried about anyone caring because they don't even know what half a dozen is. So it's probably just going.
- [73:32]
Adam Curry
They can't tell the months. That's my favorite new favorite. January, December, June. What's next?
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John C. Dvorak
February? I remember when I was probably 6 and, and my mom was kind of mean in this. She says, do you know the months? And I was always listening to records at home and, you know, and I forget what the name of the song is. Maybe it's. Maybe it's the Andrew Sisters. But at a certain point it goes January, February, June and July. Is that sisters? Maybe sisters.
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Adam Curry
It was somebody like those, you know, the guys are Wilson.
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John C. Dvorak
So I say to my mom, january, February, June and July. And she, she went, you better learn your months. You're about to go into. You're about to be seven years old and you don't know your months. And I remember like going, I was so scared and I was studying the months and I came back, mom, I know him. I know him. I know him. I really, I know him. I do. I was just. It was just a song. The song got me confused, Mom. But six, and now we don't know. I got a calendar on my phone. Who cares?
- [74:42]
Adam Curry
The phone again brings us back to the end of civilization, which began in 2007.
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John C. Dvorak
End of civilization. Well, here, what the parents do here, and I think it's pretty good. They will give their kid an Apple watch so that they can text and receive. Because, you know, these Apple watches now you can text and receive a phone call and so, but, but then the parent controls the app, so there's no other apps on it. So they can still text and, and have a phone, but it's not really an easy way to text. You're not going to be in a chat group with your friends like that. And that seems to be a pretty good, pretty decent halfway solution.
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Adam Curry
Halfway. Also known as half assed.
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John C. Dvorak
Well, I mean, I'm still for ham radios. I think all kids should have a walkie talkie.
- [75:32]
Adam Curry
Some of the gen zers are getting these. You said that earlier you had a note from someone.
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John C. Dvorak
Yeah, yeah. They love it. They love the hams.
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Adam Curry
Because you were talking about the flag burning. Let's talk about D.C. crime, because that's a big topic.
- [75:45]
John C. Dvorak
Yes. Oh, yeah.
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Adam Curry
I have Some clips. I got the D.C. crime Union Station clip.
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John C. Dvorak
Okay. The Department of Transportation says it's taking over management of Union Station, a major.
- [75:57]
Adam Curry
Transportation hub in Washington, D.C. nPR's Joel Rose reports.
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John C. Dvorak
Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy says his department is taking management of Union Station back from Amtrak. The station, which is within walking distance of the U.S. capitol, has been owned by DOT since the 1980s. Duffy says the department will now reclaim management of the station, which he said will help to, quote, make this city safe and beautiful at a fraction of the cost. National Guard troops have been seen patrolling the station since the Trump administration sent the Guard and other federal law enforcement officials into Washington, though local police statistics show that violent crime in the District of Columbia has declined, declined, declined in recent years, declined.
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Adam Curry
So they're making the point. You know, they're not talking, they're giving us, again, bad reporting. They don't talk about the rigged numbers. And all the rest of this been well documented by now. But. So we go. But NPR now goes into the juvenile. There's a whole segment they do on the juvenile thing that, you know, Jeanine.
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John C. Dvorak
Piero Priero, Judge Jeanine man, bomb him, bomb him, bomb him again, eh?
- [77:07]
Adam Curry
Is the bomb. Bombum girl wants to bomb the juveniles into oblivion. And so this becomes a big topic of conversation here on NPR about. Oh, well, you know, the, the whole idea is that we shouldn't, we, we kind of backed off on juveniles because it's turned out that our research indicates that if you're, if you're harsh on them, then they become lifetime criminals as opposed to letting them get away with everything so it won't become like, bring.
- [77:34]
John C. Dvorak
Back spanking, bring back spanking people.
- [77:37]
Adam Curry
There we go. It, unlike President Trump, who has railed.
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John C. Dvorak
Against violent crime in the city at large right there. Railed. What does even railed mean? Let me ask. Give me a definition of railed. Railed can mean a couple things depending on context. If you mean physically, it's when something moves along or is secured by rails, like a train on tracks or a curtain on a rod. Now, if you're thinking stand slang, railed often means getting hit hard or overwhelmed, like in a game or argument. Oh, please. Stupid. It's just, it's, it's so.
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Adam Curry
It's a colloquialism that isn't even valid.
- [78:19]
John C. Dvorak
Exactly. Railed. He railed against it, man. I mean, railing when someone rails against. I'm getting really mad. Unlike President Trump, who has railed against violent crime in the city writ large, PIRA was zeroed in specifically on local laws. Meant to rehabilitate people accused or convicted of crimes at a young age. She's penned opinion pieces and letters to lawmakers criticizing laws allowing for things like juvenile sentence reduction, record sealing, and early release. I want to send a message that we are going to catch you, that we are going to change the laws.
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Adam Curry
That if you're 14, 15, 16, 17.
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John C. Dvorak
We'Re going to bring you into the justice system. Pirro has connected the District's reforms to the city's recent uptick in youth violence, which included a sharp rise in shootings in 2023 that has since declined since decline. Declined since declined. Oh, hold on. I got to stop that for a second. First of all, Judge Jeanine would be the one to use the super predator term. You watch. She's dumb enough, she's smart, but she's also dumb enough to throw something or a new version of super predator.
- [79:20]
Adam Curry
I would take a bet on that that she won't.
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John C. Dvorak
You don't think she will?
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Adam Curry
No, I don't think so. Because she's so conscientious about being a right winger. Her. That to use that term, which is really popularized by Hillary, I think would be beneath her.
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John C. Dvorak
And there was something else I wanted to say. Hold on, I forgot it already. Let me see. Which included a sharp rise in shootings in 2023. That is. So I looked at the crime statistics of D.C. and they were talking about how it was down 30%. And I'm like, how did they arrive at this number? It's very simple. They looked at 2024, all crime or whatever that. What was the statistic Was it. It was crime. And then they looked at what they have to date. Well, there's a third of the year left. So that's how they arrive at. It's down 30%. Well, yeah, the year's not over yet. They didn't do it month over month or period over period. They did it literally full year versus versus three quarters of a year. This bullcrap, which included a sharp rise in shootings in 2023 that has since declined since declined since declined. But complaints about juvenile justice reform from prosecutors are nothing new in both the Capitol and in other parts of the country. D.C. mayor Muriel Bowser says she is also concerned about sending the wrong message to adolescents accused of crimes. I am an accountability mayor. If you commit a crime in the District with a gun, there has to be accountability, and that's if you are an adult or if you are a juvenile. I don't think we always have that accountability. But criminal justice reform Advocates don't want to see D.C. leaders make what they say will be counterproductive changes simply to appease Trump and Pirro in order to war off additional interference. Vanessa Batters Thompson is the head of the D.C. appleseed center for Law and Justice. She argues that cities and states have pursued policy changes allowing for more lenient sentences for young people because of the overwhelming evidence that punishing them pushes teens to commit more crimes in the future. Bring back spanking. That'll start. You've muted yourself. You're self muted. It is a crime in 40 of the 50 states to self mute yourself on a podcast. You are still muted, muted. Click the button. I wonder if maybe he's having an argument, doesn't want us to hear it. Maybe he's sorry.
- [81:57]
Adam Curry
I'll tell you how this happens.
- [81:58]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah, it's magic.
- [82:04]
Adam Curry
But the point. Yeah, yeah. You had something to say that I thought was important and I wanted to dispute it.
- [82:11]
John C. Dvorak
Or bring back spanking.
- [82:13]
Adam Curry
No, not by bringing back spanking. The logic. The logic that was brought up in that clip where they say that deterring, in other words, by punishing crime, it doesn't act as a deterrence. Which makes sense that it might. It acts as an encouragement. How did it. What is the logic here? Their logic is the following following. To deter crime by punishing the juveniles, it will encourage more crime. Yeah, I want to know the logic. Do you have it?
- [82:46]
John C. Dvorak
Nope.
- [82:47]
Adam Curry
Huh?
- [82:48]
John C. Dvorak
No. Of course not. All right.
- [82:49]
Adam Curry
Well, they claim that's true. Okay, well, let's go on the wtf. Which is the worst clip, which is this one Pushes teens to commit more.
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John C. Dvorak
Crimes in the future. It feels like we are taking a step back from an evidence based approach to criminal justice to one that is really focusing on the short term appearance of left crime at the risk of a population that is much less stable over the long term. Pirro has also criticized a D.C. law allowing people convicted of crimes under the age of 25 to seek sentence reductions after they've served at least 15 years. More than a dozen states have passed similar reforms, giving judges a chance to review a sentence after a significant amount of time has been served. Troy Berner was one of the first beneficiaries of DC's sentence reduction law. After spending 24 years in prison for a crime he.
- [83:42]
Adam Curry
Wait, wait, the guy didn't commit the crime?
- [83:45]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah, that's.
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Adam Curry
And he is a beneficiary of a shortened sentence. How come he wasn't commuted if he didn't commit? What is he doing in jail in the first place if he didn't commit the crime.
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John C. Dvorak
Well, they throw that in there to show that the justice system does not work because people who are innocent get thrown in jail. That's part of the whole whole ethos of the left, you see, is they don't always get it right. So I could be your kid. So you don't, by the way. Well, remind me. I got to tell a Fredericksburg story right after this last clip. You want to set it up?
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Adam Curry
I'm not going to accept the Fredericksburg story, but I remember to say that to you. Let's go to the so anyway, so the point is that this is a propagandistic outfit, this npr, and people are giving them money. It's really a shame.
- [84:36]
John C. Dvorak
Here we go.
- [84:36]
Adam Curry
Shame.
- [84:38]
John C. Dvorak
Stop giving.
- [84:38]
Adam Curry
So here we go. This is the last studies criminal justice.
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John C. Dvorak
Reform issues and observes that these reductions are only meant to give people second chances after they clear a rigorous review process. He says they have no bearing at all on youth crime rates.
- [84:52]
Adam Curry
We're doing some amazing things out here. And I think, you know, when it's.
- [84:56]
John C. Dvorak
All said and done, you know, people's lives are being involved in this.
- [85:02]
Adam Curry
Misleading narratives.
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John C. Dvorak
Similarly, Nye Winslow, policy counsel at the D.C. justice Lab, points to Pirro's focus on the city's juvenile record sealing laws, a misguided one. I know she and the administration want to talk about public safety, but if you are allowing people the opportunity to move forward and gain a legal income.
- [85:21]
Adam Curry
Get legal housing, get legal education opportunities, that will decrease the chance that they.
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John C. Dvorak
Are going to resort to criminal activity. Piero's office declined to speak with NPR for this story, stating her public public comments spoke for themselves. For NPR News, I'm Alex.
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Adam Curry
Hold on a second. These juveniles do have a home. It's not as though they're homeless roaming.
- [85:41]
John C. Dvorak
Around homeless kids unhoused.
- [85:44]
Adam Curry
Oh, yeah, unhoused. And so this logic, again, there's the logic is, is elusive.
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John C. Dvorak
Mainstream media is not good for anybody's mental health. But even in Fredericksburg, we have gotten to a place where there's there's something that happened in people's minds. I'm not sure exactly what it is. So we live on a it should be a gated community, but it's not because, you know, there's a whole who owns the roads and the city didn't want it. When this it's a, what do you call it, subdivision. And there's 12.
- [86:21]
Adam Curry
You're in a subdivision. You have an awful lot of property for someone in the subdivision.
- [86:25]
John C. Dvorak
It's Texas, man.
- [86:27]
Adam Curry
So here in Texas here we got lots of land. We have the many. We got the Mac Mansions, and we got them all over the place because that's what we do.
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John C. Dvorak
That's what we do. Our Mac Mansions with lots of limestone and exposed beams, which we do not have. 12 homes. And so we're on one end is a cul de sac, and there's a cul de sac on the other end. And then there's a road and a couple.
- [86:53]
Adam Curry
Wait, stop, which is a cul de sac on one end, and the other end's a cul. How do you get into this area in the first place?
- [86:59]
John C. Dvorak
In the middle, there's a road that comes up.
- [87:01]
Adam Curry
Okay. In the middle, and.
- [87:03]
John C. Dvorak
And. And in the middle, there's actually where the mailboxes are. Okay, you. You got the picture? You got the picture?
- [87:08]
Adam Curry
Not really, but yes, we're all the.
- [87:10]
John C. Dvorak
Way at one end. Quiet little. Little Adam and Tina and Phoebe just living here in our modest home. The. The McMansions are a little bit further up, but about nine months ago, a family moved in, and the guy's a contractor, and so he's already irritating everybody because he had, you know, like, tractors and big machinery in his front yard and while he was building his house. But then they kind of stayed. And so there's all kinds of consternation at the other end, including, yeah, I love this story.
- [87:48]
Adam Curry
Neighborhood consternation over. The guy has a heavy equipment in his front yard.
- [87:53]
John C. Dvorak
Well, you know, all right, man, can.
- [87:55]
Adam Curry
You move your tractor?
- [87:57]
John C. Dvorak
And, you know, Fourth of July, they were shooting fireworks off, and it was, you know, it was. And all the debris was going in other people's yards and their pool. And. And so there's a text group of half of the inhabitants. And I've been roped into this because I find it highly entertaining because I'm on the other end. We're in the quiet, peaceful part. And so the other of those last weekend, it was Saturday night night, and I'm walking Phoebe, and they have two young boys, a baby. And I guess the boys had some. Some friends over, and I don't know where the parents were, but they had got one of his. His utility vehicles, which is, you know, kind of like a golf cart that can pull stuff that has a. Has a real engine in it. And they're racing up and down the road. I mean, racing is. Is. Is a big word. You know, it's got one headlamp and they're all hooting and hollering, and it's like 9:00 o' clock or whatever. Yeah, the kids. Right. And. And then they had house party. Yeah. They had electric mini bikes and they're zipping around and Phoebe's like, they're afraid of me. Because, you know, the. Phoebe is like, she's just going nuts when they come by and, you know, they're going up and down. And I'm like, yeah, I. I remember when I was a kid, you know, I had all kinds of motorized vehicles and yeah, you know, it's nine o', clock, whatever. So it wasn't loud or anything, but they were just going up and down, down. And so I thought nothing of it. Like, I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna be that old coot who says, I can't stop that.
- [89:30]
Adam Curry
However, shake my fist.
- [89:32]
John C. Dvorak
Shake my fist. Yes. However, turns out they were doing this until one in the morning up at the other end. And so the text group fires up like, can you believe it? They were doing that until one in the morning. I'm like, what did you do? Well, you know, I. I couldn't get to sleep. I texted, what is wrong with you people? I said. I said, okay, next. Because, you know, we do have a 10 o' clock ordinance, I guess. And just after 10 o', clock, just stop making noise. It's fine. Unless you talk to everybody. I'm gonna have a party. Come on over. And I said, what is wrong with you? Next time they do that, text me and I'll call my friend Mike, the lieutenant, the sheriff's office. I have him send someone over and scare the living daylights out of them. But these people don't do that anymore. They sit there and grouse on text. You're grown men. You're going to let these kids terrorize you until one in the morning. And you'll just go out there and say, hey, cut it out. This is Texas. There's something going on. The people have lost the plot. I mean, what are you afraid of? Are you afraid that you're going to get someone's parents angry because you told their kids to knock it off? Off. It's disappointing to say the least. By the way, this is an ongoing saga. There will be more updates. There's a lot more going on with these people. We have, you know, in, in Holland, in. In Dutch. In the old country, we have a term for a family like this. We call them turkeys. And they are tokis. T O K K I es. Tokies. Turkeys.
- [91:19]
Adam Curry
Yeah, tokis.
- [91:20]
John C. Dvorak
And every neighborhood eventually gets some turkeys. And we got them. And luckily they're at the Other end of the road, far away from me to be disturbed by them.
- [91:30]
Adam Curry
Yeah, it sounds like a winner. I had some tokis living next to me when I was down.
- [91:33]
John C. Dvorak
Talkies get to get a turkeys that were.
- [91:36]
Adam Curry
They were heroin dealers.
- [91:40]
John C. Dvorak
Excellent.
- [91:43]
Adam Curry
And they weren't there that long. They were there for maybe six months. But it was pretty apparent what was going on. And it was funny because they also owned a restaurant in Berkeley which remained nameless. But I think they financed the restaurant with their heroin dealings. So one day. So there's one day I got a knock on my door because somebody mixed up the houses and thought it was I was the heroine.
- [92:06]
John C. Dvorak
Hey, man. Hey, man. Are you holding? Are you holding?
- [92:10]
Adam Curry
But no, it was kind of a surprise. It was two. I don't know if they were world class, but they sure looked like it to me. Supermodels.
- [92:21]
John C. Dvorak
Oh, yeah, yeah. They use that instead of eating. They do heroin.
- [92:26]
Adam Curry
And it was like, holy shit, these women are beautiful. And they're. You know. They had the guy's name. Does he live here? No, he's next door. And so I'm giving him directions. Oh, thanks. And they go over there and then you. The door opens. You hear it slam. Then it opens again. It slams. They get back in their car within 10 minutes and off they go. The two of them.
- [92:50]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah.
- [92:51]
Adam Curry
And I'm thinking, holy mackerel. What a business.
- [92:54]
John C. Dvorak
Wow, you. This is a story I have not heard from you. This is a new.
- [92:57]
Adam Curry
Yeah, I've never told him almost 18 years.
- [93:00]
John C. Dvorak
And you never cease to amaze me.
- [93:01]
Adam Curry
With your life experience about the hotties.
- [93:03]
John C. Dvorak
And the heroin addict bodies and the heroin hotties. There you go.
- [93:07]
Adam Curry
Heroin hotties. That's the name for a show title.
- [93:10]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah, I think so too. I'm writing it down just in case. Heroin hotties. Wow, man. What. What a world, huh? We get to live in it. I. That's great. I love that we get to live in this world.
- [93:23]
Adam Curry
So I have these. How much time do we have left in this.
- [93:27]
John C. Dvorak
In this segment, I give you 15.
- [93:30]
Adam Curry
Well, let's go with the owner. I got to find a tiktoker guy, but it's just really a news reporter. He's on the UK and it's UK reports of the crap that's going on in the UK so bad that they're trying to pull over on the public and the public just buys it. This is UK is a mess.
- [93:47]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah, it is.
- [93:48]
Adam Curry
Here's the. These are. They call owns the risk, but this owns your UK cash limit. Have you heard about the cash limit?
- [93:55]
John C. Dvorak
Yes, they're doing it all over the eu, so it doesn't surprise me. It's in the, in the UK. I'm just going to get guess, no more than £100 cash.
- [94:07]
Adam Curry
Well, it's, it's different, it's. Well, it's a. Well, it's a little more elaborate than that.
- [94:12]
John C. Dvorak
Okay, here we go. From September 18, 2025, withdrawing more than £200 in cash within seven days will activate an alert on your account. Wow. Yes. The moment you cross that limit, your banking activity goes straight to the Financial Intelligence you unit, supported by hmrc, the treasury and the Financial Conduct Authority. And it doesn't stop there. A new automated monitoring system will scan every withdrawal, deposit and transfer. Take out £300 today and another £100 later in the week, instantly reviewed. Your account could be checked, restricted, or even temporarily paused. Do this often and you could end up on a high risk list facing blocked transactions, limited card use and possible reports to other agencies. The rule is aimed at reducing activity in certain sectors like property, secondhand cars and cash based deals. But many believe it could affect ordinary people too. Making every step of your financial life feel closely monitored. Wow. You know what these people need? I mean, I would have said Bitcoin, but we might as well just hit them with some stablecoin quick. They, they need something that is, that is draconian.
- [95:28]
Adam Curry
It's ridiculous. And they, then they talk about the reason for this. So you can't buy a secondhand car, cash?
- [95:36]
John C. Dvorak
No.
- [95:36]
Adam Curry
So I can't go buy. You got a car for sale? It's like 500 bucks. Here's 500 bucks, give me the outcome.
- [95:41]
John C. Dvorak
What kind of car are you buying for 500 bucks?
- [95:43]
Adam Curry
Well, I'm just saying just to make, I'm rounding numbers. Okay, 10 grand. Here's $10,000 in cash. Can I have your car?
- [95:51]
John C. Dvorak
No way. You might be a drug. You might be holding heroin for the hotties. You can't be, can't have that.
- [95:56]
Adam Curry
I mean the whole thing is ridiculous. So here's the second clip that's got another crazy thing going on in the UK.
- [96:04]
John C. Dvorak
Passing. January 2026, a new contribution will be added directly to your pay slip. Yes, you read that correctly. On January 2, 2026, a debt recovery contribution will automatically be deducted from the paychecks of most UK workers. This new measure is designed to help manage the UK's rising national debt, which has grown significantly in recent years. But here's where it gets interesting. £90 will be taken before your salary even reaches your bank account, adding up to over £1,000 per year. With many families already facing higher living costs and inflation, this new deduction is likely to have a big impact. HMRC will handle the collection and employers will be legally required to ensure its taken. Exemptions apply only to pensioners, large families and those on specific benefits. For everyone else, it's automatic and unavoidable. While supporters say this is a necessary step to manage public finances, critics feel it places extra pressure on regular workers. No kidding. So that's to reduce the deficit.
- [97:09]
Adam Curry
Yeah. So they, they screw up and they run up a big deficit.
- [97:14]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah.
- [97:14]
Adam Curry
And they said, well, you know, what are we going to do about this big deficit? Well, what we're going to do is we're going to ding everybody with the. Because everything's now, you know, the finances is going to be all digital because you can't even have $200 in cash, you know, before being considered a criminal. So you have. So that you can't do anything about it and the money just gets sucked out of your account, whether you like it or not.
- [97:35]
John C. Dvorak
Bitcoin people, to get to the bitcoin.
- [97:37]
Adam Curry
Bitcoin's not going to help. I think stablecoin is the answer, but it's not. That's like, it'll be illegal. They'll just make that illegal.
- [97:44]
John C. Dvorak
Oh, it already is. You saw that commercial that Coinbase did about everything's fine in the uk, it's like a three minute commercial. It's like a, it's like a cabaret. They're on the street singing and dancing and everything's a mess and the garbage is piling up and rats are walking around and the ceiling's caving in and people like, everything's fine, everything's lovely. And then it's because Coinbase wasn't allowed to either operate or certainly not to advertise their services.
- [98:14]
Adam Curry
I think I saw that ad.
- [98:16]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah, it's around. Well, of course we still have the raise the Colors protest ongoing in the UK and it's spreading. And I thought it was rather interesting because we were talking a couple shows ago, you said, well, who's organizing this? Who is organizing all of this immigration, all this illegal stuff and people getting hotel rooms and et cetera, et cetera. Well, it turns out that the only people organizing it are the citizenry themselves. Themselves, who just let it happen because they were told by their media and their politicians, oh, poor people, poor people without any thought for the consequences. And now the Australians are acting up an online movement. When did it become racist? To be a patriot planning to take to the streets. The Australian people have had enough with.
- [99:09]
Adam Curry
The backing of real politicians.
- [99:11]
John C. Dvorak
How dare you?
- [99:12]
Adam Curry
You bring these people to our country.
- [99:14]
John C. Dvorak
And then have them be looked after by the public purse. This nation is sick and tired of migration.
- [99:23]
Adam Curry
This is the digital groundswell behind March for Australia. A planned series of demonstrations next Sunday in every state capital. Anti mass migration rallies. Sam won't give her real name and would only answer our questions in a.
- [99:36]
John C. Dvorak
Pre recorded video message posted to her page.
- [99:39]
Adam Curry
But claims to be an organic organiser.
- [99:42]
John C. Dvorak
Myself as well as every other state organiser, is intending for this event to be peaceful, non violent, non aggressive and just a bunch of your average Australians standing up against mass immigration.
- [99:56]
Adam Curry
There is no clear single leader. Many supporters though were aligned with anti lockdown, anti vaccine movements.
- [100:03]
John C. Dvorak
Everyone I know is going.
- [100:05]
Adam Curry
There are videos that don't even feature real people.
- [100:13]
John C. Dvorak
AI generated clips used to sell the message.
- [100:17]
Adam Curry
Security experts say the social media algorithm driven momentum is fueled by scenes globally.
- [100:24]
John C. Dvorak
Immigration raids ordered by the US president.
- [100:26]
Adam Curry
In America, protests against migrants in the uk.
- [100:30]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah, people are sick of it everywhere. That's good. We'll see how that goes. I love the real politicians. Like oh my God, real politicians are with these people. We can't have that. We should get these real politicians out. There's no good.
- [100:51]
Adam Curry
All right, TikTok clip. Only have one. We actually have two. I thought this was. I want to play this clip. This is a tick tock clip and somebody brought in. This is people bitching about Joe Rogan.
- [101:08]
John C. Dvorak
Oh.
- [101:09]
Adam Curry
And I don't like to necessarily do, you know, play that sort of clip. But they're bitching about Joe Rogan because he had some, a couple of anti vaxxers on.
- [101:19]
John C. Dvorak
When was this? All the time. All the time. He has anti vaxxers on all the time.
- [101:24]
Adam Curry
He has a lot of anti vaxxers on.
- [101:25]
John C. Dvorak
Yes.
- [101:26]
Adam Curry
And. But these women, these are two Brits. I think they're in some podcasts. I can't figure out who they are, but they post everywhere and so they're going on. There's a unbelievable illogic to what they have to say, but they came up with a new concept which I thought was interesting and there's a term called privilege of platform and Joe Rogan has this. He has privilege of privilege of platform, which means big platform.
- [101:57]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah. Oh, and of course this goes along with the. You shouldn't platform these people or I. This is my favorite. Candace Owens says this. I won't use my platform to, to, to talk about these people. My we have a platform. It's tiny, but you know, it's like a diving board, basically. But we've got a platform.
- [102:19]
Adam Curry
Yeah, but our people are the best.
- [102:21]
John C. Dvorak
That's true. I do not think some episodes of the Joe Rogan Experience are okay. I have issues with a lot of the people that Joe Rogan has interviewed. Most specifically. Specifically, I do not like the fact that he reaches into alt right groups and platforms. People with very racist, very hate filled ideas. I hate that about his podcast. And I really do not like the idea that is so widely supported sometimes. However, if we are sticking to the issue of these two particular podcast episodes that people are so upset about recently, my main question is what opinions deserve a platform on Joe Rogan Express Experience? And the main hurdle for me, whenever someone shares an opinion on a podcast is is this person qualified to share the opinion that they have? Is this person considered an expert in their field? And when we bring up these two episodes that have caused this furore, they are actually concerning two people who I would deem experts because they are a cardiologist and a vaccine scientist. So it's an interesting conversation because although we have two experts who are very educated and are very informed in this their fields, they are two experts who disagree with about 99% of their peers who are also experts. So we kind of have a situation where if we had all these experts on this particular topic in a room, 997 are saying one thing and two or three experts are saying another, and how the hell do we deal with that? Yeah, and then a lot of people might turn around to that and say, okay, well then clearly it's a freedom of speech thing, because clearly we need to hear from everyone, from all of the experts in the room. And I agree with that to some degree. But then perhaps it's not as much about freedom of speech as it is about privilege of platform. Right. Like this is a huge platform. Oh brother. Well, that's kind of the Douglas Murray argument about Dave Smith. Douglas Murray was, when he went on to debate, he said, Dave Smith is on Joe Rogan again. And he's still talking about that debate. Like, huh? Move on, move on, dude. But he's right about one thing. Douglas Murray, he in essence said you shouldn't platform people who aren't experts on the topic, which is a little bit like what? Although it's in reverse here, because I guess these people did were experts in the field, but you shouldn't platform anyone who I disagree with. That's what they're saying.
- [104:43]
Adam Curry
No, that's basically what the two women are saying. Okay, you should have experts, but they have to be experts that we agree with. They have to be experts that are in the majority. In other words, science, you know, science is not a vote. You know, you don't, you know, it's not like, oh, majority rules. So that means that science, you know, otherwise we still be using leeches. I think that, hey, 8 out of.
- [105:06]
John C. Dvorak
10 doctors say smoking camels is good for you. It'll help.
- [105:10]
Adam Curry
I mean, just don't forget that.
- [105:12]
John C. Dvorak
Yes, so. Yes.
- [105:14]
Adam Curry
So these, this is all nonsense. Joe Rogan is Joe Rogan. He could just put on whoever he feels like. What? There was a makeup.
- [105:24]
John C. Dvorak
Well, with the understanding that almost nobody really watches mainstream news anymore in the United States. There's nobody under 30, maybe even older, who's watching network news. Oh, I can't wait to turn on the 6 o' clock news. No, the numbers show that no one is really watching cable news. Certainly not on that age bracket. They're all watching Joe Rogan. Rogan. And I thank our lucky stars and the holy Spirit that the Gen Z's are coming to us. They're like, okay, let me just hear what's going on in the other world while I'm here ranching. Ranching and making babies. Yeah. Spanking my kids when they get out of line, you know, they need to know. They need to know what's happening. And they come to us, to our platform. They come to our platform. I love, love it. Come to our platform. You're welcome here at this platform. And with that platform, I want to thank you for your courage in the morning. To you, the man who put the seas in the uk Cash crunch. Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only, Mr. John C. Devor.
- [106:38]
Adam Curry
In the morning. You miss Adam? Creating the worship seals and refugees the air. So throwing nice out there in the.
- [106:43]
John C. Dvorak
Morning to the trolls in the troll room. Let me count you here. Hold on. We're still low. 1657. Should be about 1800 for a Thursday.
- [106:56]
Adam Curry
Well, yeah, we are short 150.
- [106:58]
John C. Dvorak
We are, yeah. Is it, is it Labor Day weekend? Is that coming up?
- [107:01]
Adam Curry
Yeah, it is. As a matter of fact. It should be a.
- [107:04]
John C. Dvorak
Should be, should be a banging show on Sunday.
- [107:07]
Adam Curry
There'd be nobody listening, by the way. At least we're working and we're not, we're not doing what everyone else has been doing, which is taking a week off.
- [107:15]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah. You know, I got a, I got a message from somebody is like, while you are casting stones at Others, what are, you know, some people have to work. What are you doing? What are you running for? I'm like.
- [107:34]
Adam Curry
What?
- [107:35]
John C. Dvorak
When I was talking about you should run for school board or local city council or get involved. Get involved. He's like, some people have to work for a living. Like you know, just because it sounds really easy. We do. This is a full time job. And by the way, we have no salary, no healthcare, no pension, no benefits, no pto, no vacation. I frequently am doing my. My sh. My part of the show from vacation says there's no financial planning because it's a roller coaster of donations. What are you talking about? About, you know, I don't even know why I came up with this.
- [108:14]
Adam Curry
It's a constant struggle.
- [108:16]
John C. Dvorak
That's it. It's a struggle. That's the point. By the way, on the. The quad screen, the. Here's the new messaging from the Minneapolis shooter. The shooter was obsessed with other shooters.
- [108:30]
Adam Curry
And yes this is true.
- [108:31]
John C. Dvorak
And wanted to kill children. So there's at this moment we still.
- [108:37]
Adam Curry
On one of his rifles. He had a bunch of shooters names on him.
- [108:39]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah, I know know. But what they don't have is the obvious transgendering of children making them. We have a pattern. We have a proven pattern of this. There's. That's, that's what you're looking for. We have a pattern but that is not what your mainstream media is going to tell you. So come up on our knees here. The boomers will tell you what's really happening. So the 1657 trolls are listening. They're listening live. Trollroom.I and of course on the modern podcast apps. By the way, let's just go to.
- [109:15]
Adam Curry
NoagendaStream.com it's the same thing.
- [109:18]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah. Noagenda Stream or NoagendaStream.com or it's just multiple domain names. I like Trollroom IO. What's your problem?
- [109:26]
Adam Curry
I don't like Trollroom IO.
- [109:28]
John C. Dvorak
I love. We've been using this for five years now. You tell me you don't like it.
- [109:33]
Adam Curry
I've only showing you how rare it is for me to complain. Okay, I never liked it. I like like no agendastream.com. it's got branding but.
- [109:48]
John C. Dvorak
But do you like us calling the troll room the chat room? The troll room. You like that though, don't you?
- [109:53]
Adam Curry
I don't. It doesn't bother me one way or the other.
- [109:55]
John C. Dvorak
Oh, okay. But what did want to say? There's a brand new podcasting 2point app. 2.0 app out which is pod home available. Pod home. Yes. From Barry. Barry is Dutch. And Barry built Pod Home. He has a hosting company which he runs by himself, but he also has a brand new app. It's good. He has something called Podcast Pulse. And this pertains to the bat signal that we have in the 2.0 apps, where first of all, you can listen to a live stream, a live show, and we have the bat signal which alerts you when we go live. And you just, in your podcast app, just click on it. Boom, you're listening to the live stream and it beep. Depends on what you have set as a. I mean, you don't know what, how a phone works, but yeah, these modern phones, they can give you an alert. You might have seen it. A little, little thing comes from the top and you get a little beep and then whatever you set it to. Yes.
- [110:51]
Adam Curry
Is it different than a message?
- [110:53]
John C. Dvorak
You can have it function differently. You can have it.
- [110:58]
Adam Curry
Yell, hey, Stooge, the podcast is beginning. Get on the phone and do something like that. Yeah.
- [111:03]
John C. Dvorak
In fact, I'm going to ISO that people could use that. So you could actually set that as your alarm tone when we, when go live. That's possible. And of course, when we publish and within 90 seconds, you know that the podcast has been updated. These legacy apps, you know, sometimes wait 15 minutes or hours at times when things go wrong days. This is because of the pod ping infrastructure of 2.0. And what Barry did is he has got a new feature that he put in his app. I think he calls it Podcast Pulse. And so you go into the Podcast Pulse section of the app and it just shows you, boom. Every app that updates and sometimes there's 3% second, it's really cool to discover podcasts.
- [111:45]
Adam Curry
Vroom.
- [111:45]
John C. Dvorak
Just go flying by and there's a trail and it's fun. It's a fun way to discover new podcasts. But you just want to subscribe to the no Agenda podcast and you'll be alerted appropriately. Value for value. We were talking about it earlier. The only way we've ever made money on this show is by your value that you return to the program. We've never taken any money from corporate interests, never had any commercials. We knew that that would never last. And here we are, we'll be 18 years in October. Our 1800th episode is coming up. So what is that? About 100 episodes a year? I guess. Yeah, about that. Two a week.
- [112:26]
Adam Curry
Well, 52 weeks out of the year would be 104 to be exact.
- [112:29]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah, well, we didn't start off with two episodes, so we went to two episodes later, and you can support us with your. Your time, your talent, or your treasure. Boots on the ground are always welcome. Of course, we have prompt jockeys who are very good at prompting art. Of course, your results may vary depending on the model that you use. You have real artists. They're all dead. The Dutch masters are, in fact, now dead. Dutch masters. They've all left us because they couldn't compete. And it's sad because they were actually quite good. But I have to say, when you look at Darren O' Neill's artwork for episode 1793, which we titled directly Retribution, it was good. Now, it was still kind of. The luminance was down because the model he's using is edging towards model collapse, so there's no bright colors. But because of that, the intent of making it look like a movie poster, which was the attack of the radioactive shrimp. It really hit the mark. It was well done. We liked it. You got the planes flying over overhead. You got the giant radioactive shrimp. People running away, scared, some of them apparently wearing Nazi uniforms with Nazi hats. I'm not sure what that was about. Some of the planes look a little strange, but, hey, you know, it's AI. We liked it. It was a good piece. We looked at a couple others going to noagendaartgenerator.com where everybody can participate. Let me see what else we had in there. We had man servant. Servant. You got to use another model. Your. Your model has collapsed. It's literally like you put on sunglasses, looking, and you see that one with the. The pickup truck.
- [114:22]
Adam Curry
What's the name of it? Oh, the pickup truck is so dull.
- [114:26]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah, it's dim. It's just dim.
- [114:28]
Adam Curry
Yeah, I mean, it's dim.
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John C. Dvorak
I liked Jeffrey Ria's Radioactive. A shrimp I thought was kind of cute. He had a shrimp with all kinds of radioactive signs around.
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Adam Curry
Yeah, that was a good piece.
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John C. Dvorak
It was definitely.
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Adam Curry
That could have won.
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John C. Dvorak
Could have won. I don't think there was. There wasn't that much. Uganda. Another Jeffrey Ria, Ray Ria dog.
- [114:53]
Adam Curry
No, there's no. I think you got it all.
- [114:55]
John C. Dvorak
That was it. It was underwhelming. Underwhelming. The jump the shark. We had a dude named Ben with a microphone with the. With a dead cat on it. And then there's always something.
- [115:06]
Adam Curry
Oh, by the way, I want to make that correction. It's not a rode mic. It is a DJI mic. Somebody sent me. One of the producers corrected that.
- [115:16]
John C. Dvorak
Well, there's two versions. There is definitely a rode mic used A lot.
- [115:21]
Adam Curry
Yeah. Well, this DJI mic's the one I was talking about. And it comes. You see it so much because it comes with a video recorder as a kit.
- [115:31]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah.
- [115:32]
Adam Curry
And so it's like a vlogger vlogger kit. And so you had this stupid little.
- [115:38]
John C. Dvorak
Mic which is a vlogger kit.
- [115:41]
Adam Curry
A vlogger kit with a, with a wireless little square mic, which looks idiotic.
- [115:47]
John C. Dvorak
You know, the vlogger kit should come with that Parallels app so that you can look really good. Look, I got my kit and I've got 50,000 people watching me live on my live. My Insta live, baby.
- [115:58]
Adam Curry
I also want to make another mea culpa. Yes, Adlai Stevenson was involved in some.
- [116:04]
John C. Dvorak
Way.
- [116:06]
Adam Curry
With the Khrushchev showdown with the missile crisis because he was the UN ambassador at the time. I was corrected by three different producers on that.
- [116:17]
John C. Dvorak
Oh, blimey.
- [116:18]
Adam Curry
So I have to mention that. And then I also have to mention that somebody did point out that there's about six states that allow open containers in the car. And Texas until 191880 allowed you to have beer in the car. Open. And they used to have, because I remember this because you used to be able to drive through a liquor store. They had drive through outlets and they give you a beer and you could go in your car.
- [116:41]
John C. Dvorak
But the, the discussion was. And you would do this to me, you said, can't you have open container in the car in Texas? And I said no. So I was right. And you can't now say used to be used that way because you're kind of.
- [116:56]
Adam Curry
No, but I claim that I knew about this in the past and you denied that it ever.
- [117:00]
John C. Dvorak
Ah, there it is. As long as I'm wrong.
- [117:01]
Adam Curry
Okay, you are wrong. You are dead wrong.
- [117:04]
John C. Dvorak
I am right on all counts. Don't make me call my lieutenant at the sheriff's office. Come over there.
- [117:10]
Adam Curry
He's not going to drive over here to run out of his gas. His electric car will be dead.
- [117:17]
John C. Dvorak
No, no, he won't be able to afford gas in your. Your state. That's the problem. What are you at 10 bucks a gallon now?
- [117:25]
Adam Curry
Five.
- [117:26]
John C. Dvorak
Really?
- [117:27]
Adam Curry
Yeah.
- [117:28]
John C. Dvorak
Wow, that's way down.
- [117:30]
Adam Curry
It's not way down. It's been five forever. It's too high. It should be three.
- [117:34]
John C. Dvorak
Well, no, I know it's too high, but you know, it's your taxes, man. Enjoy it.
- [117:40]
Adam Curry
No, it's not the taxes. It's a combination of ridiculous. My favorite thing, which is they, they don't get me started. They first, they always have a tax on the gasoline to pay for highways. And they put a special bill through to put more tax on the gas to pay for highways when you already have it. And then the other thing is the blend of gasolines that they use is very specific to California. And so this special blend that only about five refineries can even make includes the Richmond refinery over here in Richmond, obviously the Chevron reference refinery, and which is going to shut down because California can't keep a refinery in the state without driving them out of business. And so then now. So who knows what the price of the gasoline is going to be after Chevron shuts down their Richmond refinery. The whole thing's a disaster.
- [118:30]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah, California. Exactly. Uber Ullis.
- [118:33]
Adam Curry
Yes. No, it's not California. It's Newsom.
- [118:36]
John C. Dvorak
Okay. Who was he voted in by? Californians who love him. They love their policies.
- [118:42]
Adam Curry
I don't even believe that to be true.
- [118:44]
John C. Dvorak
Well, there's.
- [118:46]
Adam Curry
I think the elections have been rigged for decades.
- [118:51]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah, probably California. There you go. You can say it all you want. This is California. Anyway, so now we get to the part where we thank our producers. We always thank everybody and it's sincere. We are very, very grateful that people support us because it's all we have. So we do and we thank everybody. $50 and above, never below 50. Because people want a limit where they know that they are going to be anonymous. And for some reason people want to be anonymous. I've never really understood why. Are they afraid that they're. That someone's going to find out? I mean, of all the things you could be listening to, are we really a problem? Ever wonder about that?
- [119:37]
Adam Curry
I've run into. There's a. This goes back a number of years. I've talked about this before. There was a cockney girl that used to be on the E News and I was in LA once and having lunch with a producer of E News and she was at the table and she was. She. I introduced her to the show and I said, you should listen to the show. Okay. And so she listened to the show. She listened to the show once and never listened again. Thinking. And I tried to get some feedback. Why did she stop listening to the show? She was afraid she was going to be arrested because she is a green card holder and she didn't think that it was right to be listening to this show.
- [120:20]
John C. Dvorak
Good on you. And don't burn flags while you're at it, Cockney girl. Then we always have a special thank you for people of means who are able to support us in the level of Hollywood producers. And it's not for everybody. And we're just as happy with whatever value you want to give back to the show. Noagendadonations.com it's super, super simple. But if you are able to Support us with $200 or more, we reward you with an associate Executive Producer title. It is a true Hollywood title, which means you can use it anywhere Hollywood style. Credits are recognized, including IMDb.com which is legit. And if anyone questions you, of course, we will go to bat for you. We'll vouch for you. Now, if you are able to Support us with $300 or more, you get an Executive Producer title. And of course the same adheres to that. And in both cases, we will read, read your note. We also have our Secretary General Limited promotion. Is it limited? How are you limiting this?
- [121:21]
Adam Curry
We should limit that, but everything gets limited.
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John C. Dvorak
Okay. Our limited promotion where you can become a Secretary General of anything you want, which is no different from Secretary General of NATO, Secretary General of the UN you can be a Secretary General and it comes with an official Secretary General. What is the term for this certificate? This proclamation is a proclamation.
- [121:46]
Adam Curry
A proclamation. There you go.
- [121:48]
John C. Dvorak
Exactly.
- [121:50]
Adam Curry
Hereby proclaim.
- [121:51]
John C. Dvorak
And one will go to Paul from Bellevue, Washington. And he sent us a note which I have here. He sent us $1,000 and says, Dear Adam and John, please refer to me as Tall Paul of Bellevue, Washington. Encloses $1,000 to insignite me as Sir Tal Paul. If not too late, I'd like to be Secretary General General of Alpental at Squalamy, Snoqualmie, Alpental at Snoqualummy. They're just doing this because I have to do it. And it's tongue twister.
- [122:28]
Adam Curry
That's.
- [122:28]
John C. Dvorak
That's why these people do that. It's just mean. De douche me, please.
- [122:33]
Adam Curry
You've been de douched.
- [122:35]
John C. Dvorak
And he wants some company selling karma, which he knows well. We'll give you some company selling karma, he says. Thank you very much from Tal Paul, soon to be Sir Tal Paul of. Well, he be a Secretary General. So thank you very much. You've got karma.
- [122:56]
Adam Curry
Now we have Commodore SX 64 in Granger, Texas.
- [123:03]
John C. Dvorak
Texas.
- [123:04]
Adam Curry
5555. Okay. Commodore SX 64 here. I tried doing Texas accent talking through my teeth. This donation should make me a Secretary General and a knight at the same time. I assume I could be Sir Command Commodore S64. Secretary General of Lake Granger. Granger, Is it Granger?
- [123:28]
John C. Dvorak
Lake Granger area and Milam County. Where is that Milam county, it's not too far from here.
- [123:36]
Adam Curry
If you could find it in your heart to send good paying jobs karma for me. Good paying jobs karma and the young family of fishermen that have made. Oh, he must be on the coast that made the move north to dry land. Oh, he's okay. No, he's not on the coast. He's in dry land now. That'd be great. And Lou Patkin's help has been involved as well.
- [124:00]
John C. Dvorak
Wow. Nice, Nice new Patk.
- [124:03]
Adam Curry
And she's also helping Brennan, who got laid off from Chevron, who's leaving the state.
- [124:11]
John C. Dvorak
So now the kids are moving back in with you?
- [124:14]
Adam Curry
Now they got a place. I have deep manufacturing background. And the turnaround to. They also give him six months severance. Turnaround to a productive society is going to take a long time. After all, at least the last three generations have been conditioned by the, excuse me, education system that makes anything physical a bad thing. No shop class. That will have to be purged out of the communal mind. The young people that we see today lack the basics of anything unless their daddy taught them. No shop class, no trade school, just PhDs in basketball, weaving, media deconstruction excluded, of course. Keep up the good work. And to John, if you like the brawling, try Borset San Marzano. No tomatoes involved. Thank you. That's another Amaro, obviously. I'll check it out. Thank you. SX64. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.
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John C. Dvorak
Let's vote for jobs. Onto a new name. Augusto Andreoli from Berlin, Deutschland. Hello, Deutschland. Here's the Hoff. Brazilian, Italian, living in Berlin. Britalian. I just made a new name for 11 years here in Germany. Hit in the mouth by Sir Tal from Berlin in January of 2024. I've replaced my Netflix subscription by a no Agenda. Sustaining donation since April of 2024. Yes, thank you very much. Thank you for your courage and for the weekly dose of sanity. Check. Deconstruction and laughs you always provide. It is truly essential public service that should reach more people. I'd like to be called Secretary General of Sao Paulo. I'd like Trump's job karma. I might have a chance to work for a year in the usa. Plus relationship karma. My girlfriend and I broke up. I turned 50 on August 29, 1975. Gen Xer four more years, says Augusto Andreoli. Jobs, jobs, jobs.
- [126:24]
Adam Curry
You've got karma.
- [126:25]
John C. Dvorak
Let me just check. Make sure he's on the birthday list. Here, Augusto, is Augusto on?
- [126:31]
Adam Curry
While you're doing that, I'm gonna read Matthew martel. In Brumal, Pennsylvania. I'm sure I'm not pronouncing that right. $350.50. 3. 33 plus fees. Here's my September donation with a little extra to cover Adam's part of the dinner. Visit martelhardware.com don't forget to use the coupon code Brunetti33. For an additional 10% off your order, JCD Hot Pockets is requested.
- [127:03]
John C. Dvorak
Oh, somehow I didn't see that one. JCD Hot Pockets. Hold on a second. Where's my Hot Pockets? There we go.
- [127:15]
Adam Curry
Hot Pockets.
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John C. Dvorak
There we go.
- [127:17]
Adam Curry
I could just do that, you know.
- [127:19]
John C. Dvorak
Hot Pockets Brunetti. You saw the email exchange.
- [127:24]
Adam Curry
Oh, yeah. You and him are. You should get a room.
- [127:27]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah, he's. He's. He's. He's mean. He says horrible things.
- [127:32]
Adam Curry
Oh, he's a producer. He's the typical suit. He feels no obligation to follow a convention.
- [127:39]
John C. Dvorak
I told him. What did I tell him? I thought it was a pretty good line. What was it?
- [127:43]
Adam Curry
You had a good line?
- [127:45]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah, I think so. I told him. I said, maybe you should just go make another movie. Fifty Shades of Yawn. More beige. More beige. Bondage.
- [127:56]
Adam Curry
I thought that was a good line, too.
- [127:58]
John C. Dvorak
Thank you. Thank you.
- [127:59]
Adam Curry
Yeah, I did. And then you had some beige comment, which I didn't think it was you. I think you. You. You could have stopped.
- [128:06]
John C. Dvorak
I shot past, okay? I went too far.
- [128:08]
Adam Curry
You overshot.
- [128:09]
John C. Dvorak
Overshot the joke.
- [128:10]
Adam Curry
Yeah, you got to be careful.
- [128:12]
John C. Dvorak
Sir Kretchman is in Richmond, Indiana, and let me see. Also.
- [128:16]
Adam Curry
Here, let me get that one.
- [128:17]
John C. Dvorak
Oh, thank you.
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Adam Curry
And I. I say that because of the next one. Sir Kretchman's in Richmond, Indiana, and he writes in. He came in with I got tall, but he came in with 333.2. He says, in the morning, gents, I hope this letter finds you well. Haha. May this donation serve as the beginning of my quest to become a baron, as well as the excuse to use my new night ring with sealing wax. I'm delighted to inform you that I finally took Adam's advice and bought my first quarter cow last year.
- [128:53]
John C. Dvorak
Very good.
- [128:55]
Adam Curry
I never knew how delicious a cut of beef could taste until I had one from a local farmer. Hello.
- [129:02]
John C. Dvorak
Very good, very good.
- [129:04]
Adam Curry
Next time, get a half.
- [129:06]
John C. Dvorak
Well, you don't even have to do that, by the way.
- [129:08]
Adam Curry
But it depends on whether you want the flanks or not.
- [129:11]
John C. Dvorak
But also, just get ground beef from them. I mean, ground beef is so universally usable for meatballs, for burgers, for meatloaf, and it's a lot cheaper than anything you can buy anywhere worlds.
- [129:25]
Adam Curry
With all this talk about weight loss drugs, he continues in the media Today I was amazed to find that beef is clearly the best option on the market. After primarily eating beef for three months, I was astonished. You don't have to plow and you must not have a freezer. I was astonished in my weight loss and feeling of fullness. It was with this newfound knowledge that I created Meat Jaro. Instead of injecting mounjaro under your skin, how about injecting Meat Jaro directly into your mouth? A delicious local farm raised cut of beef. The best part is you don't need health insurance to buy it and it's 100% safe and effective. Meat Jarrow trademarks common side effects sudden death for patients with Alpha Gal syndrome, extreme depression and anxiety when taken by vegans or those suffering from anthropomorphic dimorphism, increased masculinity, wealth and social status as a side effect and taint cancer. Can I please get a massive dumps? Shut up in science and goat Karma. Thank you for your courage, Sir Kretschman of the White Water Valley.
- [130:43]
John C. Dvorak
They did dumps. They call them dumps. Big massive dumps. Shut up already. Science. You've got karma. Thank you. Made me laugh.
- [130:56]
Adam Curry
He has a good letter. He also has a very nice signature.
- [130:59]
John C. Dvorak
Well, unfortunately you we have, as we say in the old country, Wienkow graf the omler falter zelef in because you thought that the next one would be really long. But you miss Joe Spry from Savannah, Georgia, who says no jingles, no note. Joe Spry in Savannah, Georgia, which leaves you with the next note.
- [131:16]
Adam Curry
I can't read it because it's off the street. Spreadsheet.
- [131:19]
John C. Dvorak
Aaron Duvall from Walnut, Kansas, our first associate executive producer, by the way. Joe was 333. Thank you. Aaron is 24568. This is my first monetary donation, so please deduce you've been de douched. I am sending this note to say just how grateful my family and I are for this community. It is said quite often on this show that connection is protection. Few people understand just how true that are we really is. For those who didn't know, my family's home suffered a fire in the upstairs on St. Patrick's Day. We got extremely lucky. There was no structural damage, but we did lose the upstairs to smoke, the downstairs to water and most of all of our belongings to keep this note from being egregiously long because so many of you have stepped forward, I will Just say thank you to all of you who donated or pooled donations for our cause. My family is forever grateful. I want to personally thank you, Adam for sharing the GoFundMe link on X. That share resulted in a $1,000 donation that might have brought me to tears. It has been a slow process, but by the end of this week we will finally be back at home again. Thank you Gitmonation and the NA adjacent communities for coming together in our time of need. Connection really is Protection Jingles Goat Karma for all. Thank you for your attention to this matter. Be Safe. Aaron Duvall, aka Weirdo.
- [132:44]
Adam Curry
You've got Skyler Firestone in Liberty Hill, Texas. 226 Skyler Firestone again for Mango Plumbing here to provide you with an excellent plumbing at an affordable price and an attitude that says in the morning. Speaking of that beautiful phrase, if you mention in the morning or shut up, slave, you will get at least $33 off your final price because we will know you support this. Best podcast in the universe. Visit these ads kill me. Www.callmango.com that's a pretty good one. RMP. And he's got his number there, which proves that he's got a license. I'm now qualified for knighthood. I would like to be known as Sir Cirrhosis. I get it. Cirrhosis. Forces of the Hill of Liberty. The Long L. Sharpton. Sigourney Weaver. Bo Jaiden is fine as a clip and definitely needs some jobs. Karma. $226.
- [133:54]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah, well, I. We have so many Al Sharpton. Long.
- [133:57]
Adam Curry
A lot of. And they're all long.
- [133:58]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah. So let me see. When I. If I hear it in this one, I'm stopping it. If I don't hear it, I'm stopping it.
- [134:03]
Adam Curry
Resist.
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John C. Dvorak
We must.
- [134:05]
Adam Curry
Judge.
- [134:06]
John C. Dvorak
We must.
- [134:07]
Adam Curry
They're all giddy about a shutdown.
- [134:10]
John C. Dvorak
The tortoise in the race, then co author of who Breeze. You two. Lead singer Bono. Fran Drysch. I think this is the one. Weaver. There it is.
- [134:22]
Adam Curry
Jahar Sanaev.
- [134:24]
John C. Dvorak
Rush Limbaugh. Rush Limbaugh. Rush Limbaugh.
- [134:27]
Adam Curry
Giant.
- [134:28]
John C. Dvorak
Size to win. Oh, that's the wrong one. Don't smack. How many masks? That's wrong.
- [134:32]
Adam Curry
Two masks.
- [134:33]
John C. Dvorak
Who says that I got the wrong one? I'm sorry. You meant this one. Don't eat me, Bow. Giant. And you're scary. So scary. That's true. Jobs. There we go.
- [134:46]
Adam Curry
Jobs, Jobs. And jobs. Let's vote for jobs.
- [134:52]
John C. Dvorak
All right, Dame Lisa is up next. She's in Foxborough, Massachusetts, with a row of ducks. 222.22 and she says the amusement and education I get from your PODC is well worth the anxiety of you always threatening to quit. It works. You have succeeded in guilty me.
- [135:11]
Adam Curry
Finally someone.
- [135:12]
John C. Dvorak
I mean, come on. It's like value for value. You have succeeded in guilting me into my second yearly donation of 2025. Thank you very much baby making karma for my daughter. Please keep up the good work. Says Dame Lisa of Amic Lake. You got it.
- [135:29]
Adam Curry
You've got karma. Sir Camera Chris in Grafton, Wisconsin. 212 13. This donation 21213 is a mix of your finders fee for a recent wedding I shot video for and today 828 happens to be my oldest human resources birthday on the list. The father of the bride is an amazing producer with one of the most amazing families around. Congrats to the newlyweds. The bride and groom are a beautiful couple and both have their heads on straight. There's hope for the future. Can I get a little newlywed karma for the new couple? And a happy birthday to Christian Also, I guess since I'm so close to Linda Lou, I should plug myself. If any other producers need a photographer or videographer, mostly in with Wisconsin, check out Baylor Media. B A Y l O R media dot com. That's baylormedia.com thanks Baronet Baylor, aka Sir Camera Chris.
- [136:37]
John C. Dvorak
You've got karma. And there's Jared Bain from Lakewood, Ohio. 210 6. The birthday donation for myself. Adam's comment about the multiple trumps on the last episode had me wondering if all the body doubles meet every once in a while in the Cabinet Room. That's a good question.
- [136:58]
Adam Curry
That's a good idea.
- [136:59]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah.
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Adam Curry
Body doubles only today. Body doubles only.
- [137:02]
John C. Dvorak
They're just minds. Body doubles only today. Thanks for all you do, Scott. Succotash. Karma. Please suffer and succotash. I'm Scott Simon. You've got Karma.
- [137:19]
Adam Curry
Gabriel. Gabriel. Gabriel Do Debair, I think in gatineau, Quebec, to 1060 Quebec. Gentlemen, I am aggrieved. Having donated the show 1681, I had meekly requested Divorce Karma.
- [137:38]
John C. Dvorak
Oh no.
- [137:39]
Adam Curry
Which was ruthlessly suppressed. Imagine my shock and abject horror upon hearing such karma lackadaisically awarded. Then in show 1793, the show aptly named Retribution for that is what I now seek. Wow, I don't remember.
- [138:00]
John C. Dvorak
I don't remember doing that. Well, I apologize.
- [138:02]
Adam Curry
I do remember rejecting the divorce karma, but I don't remember giving Divorce Carmen the last show.
- [138:09]
John C. Dvorak
Really? We did that? You don't remember? I'll go look on Bingit IO. Don't you remember that? That you're wrong.
- [138:18]
Adam Curry
Adam can pronounce it better in French.
- [138:20]
John C. Dvorak
Dubar Dubar Dubar. Well, here's your divorce karma. I hope it all goes well. You've got karma. And there's eli the coffee guy. 20828 there it is. 8:28 for the date. Then he says after seeing the picture of Governor Pritzker as Fred Flintstone in the newsletter. It's a newsletter donation. It is something I'll never be able to unsee. Thanks, John. You ruined one of my favorite childhood cartoons for me. Bethought I'd never say it, but I long for the days Rod Blago Blagojevich was running the state. Taxes and crime are out of control and they just raised our electric bills by over 20%. That's because of that new quantum computing center, brother. But they got there. Whether you're in the land of Lincoln or someplace else getting nickel and dime by a corrupt government and inflation, you can still drink high quality coffee at an affordable price. Just visit Gigawatt Coffee Roasters.com use code ITM20 for 20% off your order. Thank you for your courage and stay caffeinated, says Eli the coffee guy.
- [139:26]
Adam Curry
Which brings us to Linda Lou Patkin, mentioned earlier in Lakewood, Colorado. $200 jobs karma. Worried about AI for a resume that gets results and tells your unique story and highlights your value or the value you bring, go to ImageMakers Inc.com that's ImageMakers Inc. With a K. And work with Linda Lou, duchess of jobs and writer of winning resumes. Jobs, Jobs, Jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.
- [139:57]
John C. Dvorak
There you go.
- [139:59]
Adam Curry
Why am I modulating?
- [140:01]
John C. Dvorak
Well, you were. You kind of blew it. Honestly. That was a bad read.
- [140:04]
Adam Curry
I made one little. No, I saved it. It was a save.
- [140:08]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah, save.
- [140:09]
Adam Curry
There's no great save, dude, to be honest about, it was terrific.
- [140:13]
John C. Dvorak
There's no saving on ad reads. You've got to do a it right. You got to nail it the first time. Otherwise, you know, we have to have a meeting. Linda Lou, thank you to these executive and associate executive producers. Once again. These are official and very real credits if anyone questions you on them as you put them on your resume. I wonder if Linda Lou puts it on her resume or puts it on any resume. So she said, hey, got a great idea. Let's put your no agenda producership on your resume. Linda Louis, we'd like to know. We'd like to know if that helps people get jobs. You are the expert as Someone recently said to me the SME, someone that texted me, we don't have an SME in video. I'm like SME and video. What is that? Small medium enterprise subject matter expert. Oh, I didn't know this. I did not know and I was surprised that I never heard heard this used. So, Linda Liu, you are the SME of the resumes and of course these credits are good for your lifetime and we appreciate you very much. We'll be thanking the rest of our supporters. Value for value, $50 and above in our second segment. You can help the show and you should, whatever you got out of this, whatever value you're getting a laugh, something you learned, something new, a way to surprise your co workers at the water cooler. Go to noagendadonations.com any amount is welcome. And if you want to, you can always become a sustaining donor. Any amount, any frequency. Noagendadonations.com Congratulations to these multiple producers.
- [141:48]
Adam Curry
Our formula is this.
- [141:50]
John C. Dvorak
We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Shut up, slave.
- [142:04]
Adam Curry
Shut up, sleep man.
- [142:07]
John C. Dvorak
We've talked about a lot of stuff, but we haven't talked about important stuff. Then I did want to talk about something in particular. What's going on over in the EU's the first thing as expected and yes, some would say predicted the military. I'm sorry. The war economy of the EU is cranking up and now that Germany has no other economy, we're going to have to make the young people serve in the army in this Bundeswehr. And of course it's all going to be voluntary. Don't worry. The bill aims to boost German firepower with 80,000 new soldiers and 150,000 new reservists through a new voluntary military service scheme. We're now really approaching this task with.
- [142:54]
Adam Curry
The declared target of having 260,000 soldiers in Germany.
- [142:58]
John C. Dvorak
And we want to achieve this target. My goal is that Germany, due to its size and economic strength, is the country that must have the strongest conventional army in NATO. On the European side, the bill would introduce opt in military service for young Germans with improved pay and conditions to entice new recruits and to prepare for war. And the automatic reimplementation of concern inscription.
- [143:23]
Adam Curry
The bill includes a national census of.
- [143:26]
John C. Dvorak
Young people's readiness to serve. All young Germans would receive a questionnaire.
- [143:30]
Adam Curry
As of next January to assess their.
- [143:32]
John C. Dvorak
Fitness skills and willingness. Compulsory for men, but voluntary for women. And as of July 2027, 18 year old men would undergo a mandatory physical exam. Whether they opt for military service or not, the bill still needs to be voted in Parliament. But its announcement comes just months after Germany passed a whopping 500 billion euros spending bill to fund infrastructure and defence industry investments.
- [143:59]
Adam Curry
We not only need a well equipped force which we are working hard to.
- [144:03]
John C. Dvorak
Achieve and have been doing so for two and a half years without stopping, but we also need a Bundeswehr with sufficient personnel. Only then will the Terrans as a whole be truly credible vis a vis Russia. There it is. Because you gotta be afraid of Russia for the rest of your lives. Young people. Yes, conscription can be possible in this bill. We'll see if it passes. And this is all part of who is going to have boots on the ground in Ukraine. Will there be boots on the ground? What will the Article 5 like provisions be? Well, for that answer we go to our Canadian, Canadian SME subject matter expert, Andrew Rasulas, my guy, let me just go for refers to the boots on the ground option, the guarantees, the most important thing. And there's a lot of circular discussion going on here, you know, people saying, you know, the Russians have no say on what they, what NATO does or Western powers do.
- [144:56]
Adam Curry
The point is they do because they.
- [144:58]
John C. Dvorak
Have to agree to a ceasefire or a peace, in which case those forces.
- [145:03]
Adam Curry
Could in theory come into play.
- [145:05]
John C. Dvorak
So the Russians are repeatedly said that's not going to happen and unless they change their minds, it's not going to happen. So now let's go on with that one a bit there.
- [145:15]
Adam Curry
So it's circular.
- [145:16]
John C. Dvorak
The Russians want like a UN Security Council thing and Ukraine wants boots on the ground, some kind of a guarantee. The Prime Minister of course saying that's a possibility. Now the Italians have floated an interesting.
- [145:29]
Adam Curry
Idea which has not got much press.
- [145:31]
John C. Dvorak
But Meloni at the White House on.
- [145:33]
Adam Curry
Monday brought it up on the table.
- [145:35]
John C. Dvorak
And that's essentially an idea that Ukraine might get Article 5 type by certain countries of the Western alliance, not part of NATO, but independently, bilaterally. But the key thing is no boots on the ground. So the Italians are saying, put in the guarantees. You can have forces not in Ukraine that are positioned to go in in case there's a breakdown in the ceasefire or the settlement. But you actually use a Norway option.
- [146:04]
Adam Curry
Norway's a member of NATO but has.
- [146:06]
John C. Dvorak
No NATO troops on the ground. Never has. It's part of Norway's law. They allow for training, they allow for pre positioning. It's a way of not antagonizing the Russians and the Soviets back in the Cold War days. There you go. So we may just have boots in every individual country just waiting to help Hang around. And on this, particularly these Scandinavian NATO countries, I caught a YouTube of a guy named Stanislav Kapivnik. Stanislav Kapivnik. Think he's Russian. Was Russian. Is Russian. I don't know. But he had Colonel Wilkerson on. Yeah, have you seen the Colonel? Colonel Wilkerson?
- [146:51]
Adam Curry
Yeah, we've clipped him before.
- [146:54]
John C. Dvorak
So he had. And I just have two relatively short clips because we're always talking about the elites and how we're doing this and the CIA, they're the ones that go in and the economic hitman. And he was apparently part of the real danger. Danger which we were warned of by General Eisenhower. President Eisenhower, the military industrial complex. And in this. What are you listening to? Are you doing a different podcast? Are you on with. With Chanel? Are you doing a hit by doing a hit? What are you doing? Are you literally just browsing around while I'm talking?
- [147:38]
Adam Curry
No.
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John C. Dvorak
Well, what was that?
- [147:41]
Adam Curry
Something Auto started?
- [147:42]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah, because you're browsing around. You're just browsing around during the show.
- [147:45]
Adam Curry
No, I am not. I'm listening because I want to hear about Wilkerson.
- [147:49]
John C. Dvorak
Turns out the military industrial complex is responsible for a lot, it seems, you know, the Europeans are ever more hell bent on. On widening this, making it as wide as possible.
- [148:04]
Adam Curry
It does, I think, merits and Macron.
- [148:07]
John C. Dvorak
And Starmer in particular, but other leaders.
- [148:10]
Adam Curry
Too, following in their. Their wake, so to speak. Speak. I think they're all going to be gone very shortly. I don't think any of them are long live. Because I think their people are going to understand eventually what's going on. You know, I know people don't believe me, but in 2002, I was there when we started buying governments. We bought newspapers, we bought editors, we bought reporters, we bought politicians, we bought people who would be Jen Stoltenberg's.
- [148:41]
John C. Dvorak
We bought taught people to change.
- [148:44]
Adam Curry
And we didn't do it the way the CIA did it in Chile, for example, in 68, 69 and 70, and turn them all against Allende. We didn't do it for that reason because we disguised it. We disguised it by weaponizing liberal democracy. And we sent in non governmental organizations, we sent in usaid, we sent other people in. We call them Quahogs, some of them Quasar government operations. We sent them in and they had a. They had a mission and they didn't.
- [149:14]
John C. Dvorak
Even know why they were carrying out.
- [149:16]
Adam Curry
Their mission in many events. Their mission was to democratize these people and to democratize them in a way that would make them want to be Members of NATO.
- [149:26]
John C. Dvorak
Yes. Quaiogs. Of course, the DIA is much more sneaky than the CIA. And they also did Ukraine.
- [149:35]
Adam Curry
We reap this all.
- [149:36]
John C. Dvorak
You know, people ask me, why would.
- [149:38]
Adam Curry
A country that had a year, years and years long history of neutrality think the Scandinavian countries, for example, even Norway.
- [149:48]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah, okay.
- [149:49]
Adam Curry
And Tromso, we had some marine, pompous and things like that, but not a member of NATO.
- [149:54]
John C. Dvorak
Not officially a member of NATO. Why would these countries come in?
- [149:57]
Adam Curry
We bought them, we got them in, and then we put the fine cap on it. We created Ukraine to make them grow increasingly fearful of Russia because we knew when we created Ukraine in our image that Russia would find that unacceptable and eventually would attack. And they did. And so then we said, joe Biden.
- [150:19]
John C. Dvorak
Got this one, you know, oh, he'll take Lithuania next and Estonia and Latvia and then Poland. Yeah, this is.
- [150:27]
Adam Curry
We did this. We did this. History books will show that we did.
- [150:31]
John C. Dvorak
This 20, 30, 30 years from now. I believe him.
- [150:34]
Adam Curry
Well, we said this already on the show.
- [150:37]
John C. Dvorak
Well, not was.
- [150:38]
Adam Curry
You're talking about Brennan being in the.
- [150:40]
John C. Dvorak
Maid, but he's Defense Intelligence Agency, not Central Intelligence Agency.
- [150:47]
Adam Curry
Well, that makes you wonder exactly why Brennan was in Maidan. He's there for the party.
- [150:56]
John C. Dvorak
For the chicks, for the party, for the champagne guy. The.
- [151:00]
Adam Curry
I completely believe I look like a party animal.
- [151:03]
John C. Dvorak
To me, the dia, they are the ones they. And they're the ones on social media. They have a whole unit, their whole nudge unit. That's all. That's all Defense. And that's what we were warned of. Of the military industrial complex. That's why I play these clips. I believe that. I believe it was Defense Intelligence Agency. That's what Laura Logan's husband did. He literally. Now he says, I can talk about it now because it's past whatever time was psyops, man. I was psyops. Dia Psyops. I believe it.
- [151:36]
Adam Curry
I think that you're starting to act like a Fredericksburger. I am not convinced that the DIA is as omnipotent as. As. As he says he's, you know, or anybody does, because I think they're the boneheads of the group.
- [151:55]
John C. Dvorak
I don't know.
- [151:56]
Adam Curry
They probably maybe got it started, but they had to have Brennan. The boys go in there to really take care of it. You don'. Victoria Newland's got anything to do with the dia I really doubt it.
- [152:07]
John C. Dvorak
State Department, I don't know.
- [152:09]
Adam Curry
The State Department is different. That's another group of spooks.
- [152:13]
John C. Dvorak
So there's a whole bunch of spooks.
- [152:15]
Adam Curry
But I'm, I, well, they're all trying to take credit for each other's work.
- [152:19]
John C. Dvorak
Well, there's that for sure, there's that now, but there it is. We bought off editors, we bought off.
- [152:27]
Adam Curry
Newspapers and a CIA process. Now he demeans what they did with the CIA did in Chile as if it was like a one off. Well, look what they just sucks and we do a better job because we bought all these guys. I, I think this is all I know.
- [152:41]
John C. Dvorak
All I know is the CIA was recruiting woke children. So I don't think that the new CIA is all that impressive.
- [152:57]
Adam Curry
I'm not, I'm withholding judgment. I'm not. I don't think the diagnosis is that impressive if you're going to think that way. I think they're full of shit. How about that?
- [153:07]
John C. Dvorak
Okay, that's Dvorak, California. Go get them boys.
- [153:14]
Adam Curry
You won't be able to get out of Texas with their electric cars.
- [153:17]
John C. Dvorak
You'll find them next to the heroin dealer. It's easy to locate. Just ask around. Just ask the hotties, they'll point you in the right direction. All right. Well I thought it was a nice little series.
- [153:31]
Adam Curry
I think it was enjoyable. I'm not arguing about the clip of the quality. I'm just, I think this, the analysis that I'm complaining about.
- [153:38]
John C. Dvorak
Quite proud of myself.
- [153:39]
Adam Curry
Hey, dig up a Wilkerson clip. Yeah, I guess so.
- [153:43]
John C. Dvorak
There's. So there's a meltdown. There's a meltdown in Magaland, everybody. Meltdown in Magaland. This.
- [153:49]
Adam Curry
Is this what you voted for?
- [153:51]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah, that's right. Did you vote for this? Fro ingraham is mad. Mr. Secretary, with all due respect, how is a lag allowing 600,000 students from the communist country of China, putting America first?
- [154:06]
Adam Curry
Well, the President's point of view is.
- [154:08]
John C. Dvorak
That what would happen if you didn't have those 600,000 students is that you'd.
- [154:13]
Adam Curry
Emptied them from the top.
- [154:15]
John C. Dvorak
All the students would go up to better schools and the bottom 15% of universities and colleges would go out of business in America. So his view is he's taking a rational economic view, which is classic Donald.
- [154:29]
Adam Curry
Trump looking at higher education and saying.
- [154:31]
John C. Dvorak
But why do we modify that? That just helps Harvard and UCLA and UCAL Berkeley and I mean y' all helping those schools, why? They're like, you know, basically factories of anti American propaganda. Now they're getting a big influx of cash because of the Chinese students. I mean, I know President Trump has always been very pro Chinese student. I just don't understand it for the life of me. Those are 600,000 spots that American kids won't get. I tell you what, I'm involved.
- [155:01]
Adam Curry
I'm involved in changing the H1B program, right?
- [155:05]
John C. Dvorak
We're going to change that program because that's terrible, Right? We're going to change the green card. You know, we give green cards. The average American makes $75,000 a year and the average average green card recipient, $66,000. So we're taking the bottom quartile. Like, why are we doing that? That's why Donald Trump is going to change it. That's the gold card that's coming and that's. We're going to start picking the best people to come into this country. It's time for that to change. I think we are. American engineering students need to be given the first role at every job. And I think they're brilliant when given half a chance. But, Mr. Secretary, I know you're juggling.
- [155:43]
Adam Curry
A lot of balls over there.
- [155:44]
John C. Dvorak
We really appreciate your explaining a lot of this to us. Thank you. Well, first of all, is the average wage in America $75,000? I think it's lower.
- [155:57]
Adam Curry
It's a good thing about you. Ask your buddy there.
- [156:00]
John C. Dvorak
What, the DIA guy?
- [156:01]
Adam Curry
No, your machine.
- [156:03]
John C. Dvorak
I'm not going to ask my machine that.
- [156:05]
Adam Curry
Ask her.
- [156:06]
John C. Dvorak
Oh, you're in.
- [156:07]
Adam Curry
What's the average ways in the American.
- [156:09]
John C. Dvorak
I'm going to have to change her tone so she doesn't sound so sexy. You're all kind of g about it.
- [156:14]
Adam Curry
Oh, are you getting worked up about it?
- [156:16]
John C. Dvorak
Hold on a second. What is the average income in the United States of America? The average annual income in the US is around $62,000. Boom. Told you.
- [156:31]
Adam Curry
Lies.
- [156:32]
John C. Dvorak
Lies. Yes, Howard Lutnig. Lies.
- [156:36]
Adam Curry
So the thing about the, you know, I know we, I think we've determined, or at least I can totally convince that. You see, Berkeley is a stronghold of CIA operations to recruit foreign students. I mean, Ling Ling and Ding Dong over there got caught in North Korea right out of the journalism.
- [156:57]
John C. Dvorak
I forgot about.
- [156:57]
Adam Curry
I remember them.
- [156:58]
John C. Dvorak
Yes. Ling Ling Ling Long Sing Song. Ding Dong. Yes.
- [157:02]
Adam Curry
And so Berkeley has a tonnage of Chinese nationals. Always has. Even when I was a student, which was years before any of this started to happen. But now they. And they can try to recruit them is what they're trying to. You know, you get a. You get a couple thousand of these guys and maybe one of them will turn, you know, and be a good agent, a spook for the, for the agency going back to China. Because they all go back to China. And so I, I don't, I think that's the reason for this.
- [157:36]
John C. Dvorak
I think 600,000. I mean if they're all getting a gold card, spending a million, I can see that. I mean, all right, now you know what you're getting, you're getting true party members. But MAGA not happy. Is this what exactly what you said? Is this what you voted for?
- [157:53]
Adam Curry
Is this what you voted for?
- [157:55]
John C. Dvorak
I love that. That's great.
- [157:58]
Adam Curry
Everyone always. Yeah, but it's really true.
- [158:01]
John C. Dvorak
There's a large segment of people who are just continuously disappointed in President Trump. Continuously.
- [158:09]
Adam Curry
They were disappointed from the get go. They never liked the guy in the first place.
- [158:13]
John C. Dvorak
No, no, no.
- [158:13]
Adam Curry
They don't like anything he does.
- [158:15]
John C. Dvorak
They were hopeful. They were hopeful that he was hopeful for what?
- [158:18]
Adam Curry
What did they expect the guy to do?
- [158:19]
John C. Dvorak
He's going to expose the elites, the pedos, drain the swamp, all this stuff and he's done none of it, I tell you, none of it. They're just telling what people are saying. I, I understand their disappointment.
- [158:32]
Adam Curry
People practical. I'm not talking to you, I'm talking about to them.
- [158:37]
John C. Dvorak
Oh, okay. Yes.
- [158:38]
Adam Curry
Let's go to this, these clips. I got four of natcast, one post.
- [158:42]
John C. Dvorak
What is this?
- [158:43]
Adam Curry
It's a series of clips.
- [158:45]
John C. Dvorak
Okay, so the, if I'm understanding this correctly, the company is set up because.
- [158:49]
Adam Curry
They'Re going to get handed a whole.
- [158:51]
John C. Dvorak
Boatload of money and then they're going to turn around and allocate it to specific kinds of. Oh, I'm sorry. Not. Okay. I won't complain about your naming, but okay, it was not here because. Yes, here's.
- [159:08]
Adam Curry
Yeah, they all say one, but it's.
- [159:10]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah. And the Post, you know, you can.
- [159:12]
Adam Curry
Complain about the naming because it, it, it lacks.
- [159:15]
John C. Dvorak
Can you tell me certain consistency.
- [159:17]
Adam Curry
I agree with you.
- [159:17]
John C. Dvorak
Before we get to it, you have two number threes. Which one do I play? When we get to it, you determine that.
- [159:24]
Adam Curry
I'm going to have to look at the time codes. Are we, look at the date.
- [159:28]
John C. Dvorak
Here we go.
- [159:29]
Adam Curry
One of them is a number four.
- [159:30]
John C. Dvorak
Okay. Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick announced that he's clawing back billions of dollars earmarked by the Biden administration for a company called natcast. What the heck is natcast? Well, it's basically a middleman that decides who gets pieces of the government fiscal pie, specifically cash set aside in the Chips and Science act for semiconductor research. In election letter obtained by the Post, Lutnick said that he was canceling a multi billion dollar contract that funneled taxpayer dollars through natcas, which again, was created by the Biden administration with a hunk of money, and we're talking billions here. That was pushed through just a few days before the former president left office. The nonprofit selection committee was made up of former Biden administration alums, and according to Lutnick, it effectively cut the current administration out of the mix entirely. Joining me now, the New York Post reporter who broke this story, Washington bureau chief Joshua Josh Christensen. So, Josh, it's pretty rare that we.
- [160:24]
Adam Curry
Talk about something on the podcast that.
- [160:26]
John C. Dvorak
No one has ever heard of. Why does this company natcast exist? I mean, who runs it? Well, natcast was an invention of the Biden administration. It was something that was cooked up, you know, the last two years of the Biden administration and basically crammed full of staff from departing members of the Commerce Department, other allies of the admin. And it was a nonprofit that was essentially set up to receive $11 billion worth of taxpayer funding in order to transmit it towards semiconductor research and development. Yeah, this is a. This is a big controversy, this.
- [161:05]
Adam Curry
Well, what's interesting to me is this is not being discussed much. I never heard of natcast.
- [161:10]
John C. Dvorak
No, never heard of that.
- [161:12]
Adam Curry
And here we go with another bullcraped operation that was set up as a front for money laundering. The see it. This is just money going to somebody's pockets. We don't need that. Semiconductor companies make enough money that they can do their own damn research. And most of the research in semiconductors nowadays is done out of Holland by that company that makes the UV etchers.
- [161:34]
John C. Dvorak
Asml.
- [161:36]
Adam Curry
Those guys? Yeah, those guys are the hotshots in this regard. These semiconductor companies, all they do is design chips and they don't need resources, research, money, this bull crap.
- [161:49]
John C. Dvorak
Okay, okay, so the. If I'm understanding this correctly, the company is set up because they're going to.
- [161:54]
Adam Curry
Get handed a whole boatload of money.
- [161:55]
John C. Dvorak
And then they're gonna turn around and allocate it to specific kinds of research involving semiconductors. Okay.
- [162:04]
Adam Curry
Squared away now.
- [162:05]
John C. Dvorak
So that doesn't sound, I don't know, weird to me. Can you explain to me what the issue is? What is Litnick saying the problem is with natcast getting that money and then allocating, hating it as they see fit. The main problem is the lack of federal oversight and the fact that such an entity, which has existed in the past and will certainly exist again, in which a private group is stood up by the government in order to distribute funding, any kind of law will have different sorts of funding initiatives often flow to state entities, nonprofits, that sort of thing. But in this case, the law, the CHIPS act, which was one of the big bills that Biden pastoring his admin, did not set up any sort of independent extra governmental entity to take all that money and throw it out the door. And Letnick is saying, well, we have no clue where all this went. And in particular, what we know for a fact is it was $11 billion in total, but $7.4 billion worth of that went out the door in the last four days of the administration with no oversight. Oh. And so he's wanting to, you know, call them to account for this and say, well, you know, where is this money gone? We don't know. We have no way of looking into it. And so I'm voiding this agreement as it stands currently. Okay, so on the is that what you voted for side of the equation, the complaint is what kind of capitalism is this where you're taking a stake in companies? The I did not hear anyone say what kind of capitalism is this where you're giving people money? It's both wrong.
- [163:49]
Adam Curry
Well, I say if you're going to give them money, at least get something. Well, I mean, I'm not a defender of the idea of buying chunks of intel, which is most people see as a failing company.
- [164:00]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah.
- [164:00]
Adam Curry
Unless you know something's going to happen and it's going to profit the government.
- [164:05]
John C. Dvorak
Insider trading by the government. Interesting.
- [164:09]
Adam Curry
That would be okay.
- [164:11]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah, yeah, that would be great.
- [164:13]
Adam Curry
But do you think that's possible? I don't, no. Because I don't think the government's that skilled. But this whole natcast thing and throwing. This is too much money being just thrown around aimlessly. This is ridiculous waste.
- [164:27]
John C. Dvorak
But it was already thrown around. It was already.
- [164:29]
Adam Curry
Yeah, well, it goes. Everyone's gone nuts.
- [164:32]
John C. Dvorak
Yes. So now I've looked at the time timestamps and I believe the 2 minute 11 clip will be clip 4. Could that be right? We have a 1 minute clip next. And here we go.
- [164:44]
Adam Curry
So if you.
- [164:45]
John C. Dvorak
What happens to the money now? Where does this money go, especially if there's a legal challenge? I mean, is it just sitting there in limbo? I mean, it was kind of. I mean, as far as I could tell, they were saying that up until 2034 there were plans to have some sorts of payments annually. So it's unclear whether the voiding of it would then allow them to claw it back entirely or whether they've already tried to send most of it out, even from natcast.
- [165:13]
Adam Curry
Right.
- [165:13]
John C. Dvorak
So it's even A step further away from the government's coffers. But yeah, it's something that I'm sure Lutnick's team was talking about with them today after they received the letter. As with the EPA case. You know, you see there's many steps in the process before the government can actually just get the money back because it's already gone through so much to get out of taxpayers hands and into the pockets of special interests or whoever might be in line for it. This is a facet of the changing of the garden government that I never actually knew about or thought of, but it makes a lot of sense. So a very great story. Thank you for breaking it and coming.
- [165:50]
Adam Curry
On the podcast to talk about it.
- [165:51]
John C. Dvorak
Josh Christensen, thanks so much. Sounds like we did them out of order.
- [165:56]
Adam Curry
I think that's probably concludes it. I don't think you need to play the long clip.
- [166:00]
John C. Dvorak
Okay. But just so you know, the long clip was done at 8, 28, 28, 20 and 41 seconds. And the shorter clip was 8, 20 and 20 seconds. So I just presumed.
- [166:16]
Adam Curry
I think that may have been the ship time probably. Yeah. So it doesn't make any sense.
- [166:22]
John C. Dvorak
All right, well I'd have to go.
- [166:23]
Adam Curry
To the original files, but I think that summarizes the problem is we have another waste of taxpayers money and you wonder why we're in debt $35 trillion.
- [166:34]
John C. Dvorak
Ah, but that's. That's all ending. That's all ending. Oh, are you kidding?
- [166:39]
Adam Curry
Any minute now.
- [166:40]
John C. Dvorak
Any minute. I of course watch the, the Trump show. The cabinet meetings highly the three and.
- [166:47]
Adam Curry
A half hour Trump.
- [166:48]
John C. Dvorak
Oh I love it.
- [166:49]
Adam Curry
Extravaganza.
- [166:50]
John C. Dvorak
I can' Enough of it. I love wait the Set it up, set it up, set it up, set up. Here is NPR will set it up for you. Did anything else stand out to you about this very, very long cabinet meeting? Well, it was very, very long. According to fact base which how long was it these things.
- [167:08]
Adam Curry
It was the longest Trump event ever. Longer than any other cabinet meeting. And it was effusive.
- [167:14]
John C. Dvorak
Cabinet secretaries took turns showering Trump with praise. Like the Labor Secretary who said Trump.
- [167:20]
Adam Curry
Should come over to the department to see the banner they now have hanging on the side of the building of.
- [167:25]
John C. Dvorak
His quote, big beautiful face. Oh my goodness. Well that's what NPR does with your money. We'll just actually listen to what was said. This is now Scott Besant who by the way, I should mention this is part of the A Gays. Have you heard about this? The A Gays?
- [167:43]
Adam Curry
Nope. You've got me on this One.
- [167:45]
John C. Dvorak
Yes, yes.
- [167:46]
Adam Curry
A gays.
- [167:47]
John C. Dvorak
Yes, that's a new term.
- [167:48]
Adam Curry
So he's gay. I didn't. He's.
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John C. Dvorak
Oh, Besson. Yeah, yeah, Bessant's gay.
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Adam Curry
Oh, okay. Bessant. Okay. A gays.
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John C. Dvorak
Yeah, it's called the A gays Here. New York Times, I got the article for you. Donald Trump's. It's not. Loading now, of course, for a moment. I don't know why that's happening. Hold on. I had it on archive.org but for some reason the New York Times probably took it down. Here we go. Donald Trump's biggest gay government.
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Adam Curry
Big gay government.
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John C. Dvorak
Yes, it's his big. Because he has a lot of gay guys in there and. Oh, shoot, man. No, I'm sorry. Now the. Now I can't get to the article. Oh, that sucks so bad. Let me see.
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Adam Curry
They blocked it.
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John C. Dvorak
They did block. Well, let me see. Here's another version of it. So they talk about the A gays. They're mostly a gay G A Y S. Yes. As in as a top of the top dogs. The top gays would be a capital A, Capital A dash, capital G A Y S. They're mostly out there proud to work for President Donald Trump. And they have big jobs inside or alongside this administration.
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Adam Curry
They have big what?
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John C. Dvorak
They have big jobs, big jobs inside or alongside this administration. They wield influence all over town, from the Pentagon, gone to the State Department to the White House of the Kennedy Center. We're like Visa. We're everywhere you want to be. The most powerful out gay man in the Trump administration is Besant. There are a handful of others in the Treasury Department. Other A gays include Tony Fabrizio, the President's longtime pollster, Trent Morse, outgoing deputy assistant to the President, Richard Grinnell, who was put in charge of the Kennedy center, and Jacob Helberg, an undersecretary of State. The. These are just some. There are lots of other lesser known men who make up the tribe. This is a great article. Let me read another paragraph. They're overwhelmingly white. Oh, it's the white gays.
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Adam Curry
The white gaze.
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John C. Dvorak
There's something bad. We knew there was something wrong with them. They tend to have a certain kind of look close cropped haircuts, window pane suits. They're not the type to be telling anyone their pronouns are using the word queer. No, because they're normal guys who just happen to that like guys they don't have. They don't have to be weird and queer. And they aren't the least bit offended that the leader of their party Continues to stoke a moral panic about transgender people. Exactly. They're gay.
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Adam Curry
How is this a shocker to anybody?
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John C. Dvorak
The New York Times. They're gay, but they're still Republicans. This is fantastic.
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Adam Curry
Keep reading.
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John C. Dvorak
Really? You want me to keep reading? Let me see if I can. The gay men who work for him are keenly aware they're in hostile territory. Surrounded by other gay men who can consider themselves deluded traitors or worse. At gay bars around town than on dating apps, they are either iced out or confronted about the things this president has said and done. He cut AIDS relief around the world and HIV vaccine research and funding for LGBTQ plus suicide prevention services. Not true. His defense secretary announced during Pride Month that the Navy vessel named after Harvey Milk will be renamed is an outrage amongst the the gay community. Perhaps most worrying for many gay people is how the conservative Supreme Court has become thanks to Trump. Could same sex marriage go the way of Roe? It's not out of the question.
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Adam Curry
This is all supposition at this point in the article.
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John C. Dvorak
Gay Trump.
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Adam Curry
In other words, the New York Times article that you started reading with some actual information. Although it's an upside down pyramid the way I do journalism. Journalism. But that's okay. It shows that it just starts to fall apart and go into supposition and opinion.
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John C. Dvorak
Gay Trump appointees interviewed for this article, some of whom said they weren't authorized to speak on the record. Dismiss such opprobrium. Opprobrium? What is that? Opprobrium. What does that mean?
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Adam Curry
It has a. You can either ask your friend. I can almost define it, but I can't with any real accuracy.
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John C. Dvorak
Something that brings disgrace.
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Adam Curry
Okay.
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John C. Dvorak
Public disgrace. Dismiss such opprobrium as overheated liberal whining. They argue that the battle for gay rights has basically been won and there's never been a Republican as friendly to the gays as Trump. He's a friendly gay lover guy.
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Adam Curry
Did they say the gays?
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John C. Dvorak
No, they said gay. Did I say the gays? It's not. They argue.
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Adam Curry
The gays.
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John C. Dvorak
They argue for. The battle for gay rights has basically been one. There's never been a Republican. As friend. Yeah. As friendly to the gays as Trump.
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Adam Curry
Yeah, there you go.
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John C. Dvorak
The gays.
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Adam Curry
The gays.
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John C. Dvorak
Did you write this for the New York Times? Own up to it. This is a great article. I just love the whole a. Gays. Yeah. You know what? They're just good looking men who are just dressing nicely, doing their thing, not walking around going, I'm gay. Yes.
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Adam Curry
Surprised they're gays.
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John C. Dvorak
Not fruits Surprised? What? New York Times surprise. Anyway, here's.
- [173:04]
Adam Curry
Of course they were.
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John C. Dvorak
Here's the top. A gay Scott Bess and telling us we don't have to worry about the deficit on the international front. You have leveled the international trading system whereby countries took advantage of us and that's over.
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Adam Curry
It's over.
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John C. Dvorak
The Treasury Department is, is taking in record tariff revenues that I had been saying was running at a rate of 300 billion a year. You chastise me for saying that? It's not that that number is too low. And as usual you're right that we had a substantial jump from July to August and I think we're going to see a bigger jump from August to September. So I think we could be on our way well over half a trillion, maybe towards the trillion dollar number. This administration, your administration has made a meaningful dent in the budget deficit. The average budget deficit during this term is 26% less than the last 12 months under Biden. And even the CBO, and we don't agree with CBO on everything.
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Adam Curry
As you said.
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John C. Dvorak
Last Friday, on a summer Friday had to admit that they believe over the next 10 years the budget deficit will be 4 trillion lower than they had previously scored. 4 trillion. 3.3 trillion of tariff income. 700 billion of lower interest cost. And I would expect that that number could go up from here. $14 trillion. Woohoo. It's gonna be great. We'll only have 32 trillion to go.
- [174:50]
Adam Curry
I'll believe it when I see it.
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John C. Dvorak
I'm gonna show my support by donating to no Agenda.
- [174:57]
Adam Curry
Imagine all the people who could do that.
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John C. Dvorak
Oh yeah, that'd be fab. But before we go anywhere, we have a lot more show to go. We have of course end of show mixes, we have tip of the day. And we always want to thank our supporters who supported us with value for the value they receive. $50 and above left on the docket. John will list them and name them for you.
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Adam Curry
Yeah, we're going to start with hank there. And $113.41 parts unknown. And you can read this note because it's a knight note. He's becoming a knight.
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John C. Dvorak
Enclosed is my donation of 8.0.08 and 33.33 for value provided. This should grant me an invitation to the roundtable as per my card sent earlier this year along with other goodies. Please knight me as Sir Hank Itami. I would like to request for the roundtable a mega sized cup of grapefruit. Grapefruit sour. Along with a bowl of cookie and Cream. Ice. Cookie and cream. Ice cream. Cookie, isn't it? Cookies and cream. I ordered cookies and cream. So that's what you get. Hopefully there's enough steam to keep this show going maybe another four years. Thank you for your attention to this matter. Says Hank.
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Adam Curry
Dame Reed is up at the top of the list in Sparks, Nevada. She comes in with $108.28, which is the date and she says the newsletter has not been in my email since 8:20. Shall I sign up again? Yes, please sign up again. Just to make sure. I don't know what they were having issues of all sorts. Brendan Brown and Arnelia. Oh, hi, Arnelia or Amelia?
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John C. Dvorak
Amelia. Amelia.
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Adam Curry
Amelia. House buying karma. He wants. We'll put that at the end for you. And then he's. He. Brandon says please donate people. No, we want money.
- [176:50]
John C. Dvorak
We want money. We don't, don't, don't say we don't want water, people.
- [176:53]
Adam Curry
We don't want blankets. We don't want water.
- [176:55]
John C. Dvorak
We don't want people. We just want your cash.
- [176:58]
Adam Curry
Charlie Shelton. Hundred dollars. Mike Litke in Tinley Park, Illinois. Eight thousand and eight. Happy birthday to. Oh, I wonder if that's on the list. Sir Matthew wishing a happy birthday to Sabrina Contreras on 829. You'll check that. Eric Mackie or Mucky Mackie. Mucky in Blairsville, Georgia. 8008. For his smoking hot fiance, Kevin McLaughlin. He's the Archduke alumna lover of American lover of melons. 8008. Brian Kaufman in Scottsdale, Arizona. 75. 75. John Alberini. 7026. Whoops, sorry. Andrew Foreman in Boca Raton. Rat's Tail, Florida.
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John C. Dvorak
That's the mouth of the rat, not the tail.
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Adam Curry
I thought it was rat. Rat Boca. The butt of the rat. Rat bokeh.
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John C. Dvorak
Rat mouth of the rat.
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Adam Curry
Well, rats are involved in Florida 6331. And he wants some jobs. Karmu give you that at the end? Quick question for John. When are you going to be back on Twitter next?
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John C. Dvorak
And inquiring minds want to know.
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Adam Curry
Probably never. Wesley D. Stewart iii in Mesa, Arizona. 62. 62. Another birthday donation. Les Tarkowski in Kingman, Arizona. 6006. And there's Sir Laugh A Lot with 5809. Another knighting donation, which you should read part of at least a long note that shouldn't be in the middle of a donation segment like this.
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John C. Dvorak
It's actually for damehood for his German shepherd dog, Shona. She was five years old when Katrina hit. We had to evacuate with my parents, my 18 month old son and wife. Our house in Metairie was destroyed, like so. Metairie. Thank you. We evacuated to Charlotte, North Carolina. Once a month they would drive down to New Orleans to help my parents and friends to rebuild. During this time, my wife and son were alone in our little apartment in Shona. With Shona, she was the best protector they could have. I would like to dedicate this damehood to Shona, the protector of Katrina's survivors. Now she can join me, Sir Laughalot and Dame Maggie, our rescue lab at the round table. I still have to work on a knighthood for my first dog, Shelby, and my second dog, Trixie. I hope to get that done before your exit strategy comes to fruition. I've been listening since the very first show. I think John's first tip of the day was to buy black underwear. Back then you were discussing the Hema underwear. Yes, that's. But that was white. I met John at one of the first meetups in Biloxi, Mississippi a few years. No, Ms. s. Mississippi a few years ago. And someday hope to meet Adam in person as well. I apologize for the long note, but I wanted to thank you for being a constant in my life during some trying times and providing much needed laughs. Sincerely, Sir. Laugh a lot. It was worth reading the note. Thank you very much.
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Adam Curry
Yeah, it was a good note. Good note. Surprise. In Yukon, Oklahoma. 5444. Nathan Gwinn in Jackson, Tennessee. 5272. Vance Wharton in Norman, Oklahoma. 5272. Malcolm Riley and Iken, I think Iken or Aiken Eichen. Eichen or Aiken Eichen or Aiken, South Carolina. 71st birthday. 5272. Matthew Arepco 5001. And now we've gotten down to the $50 donations. I'm just going to read the name and location. Except for the Richard Gardner who's in New York City, but it's not listed. George Wushette in La Vernia, Texas. Jacqueline Connolly in Green Bay. Go Packers, Wisconsin. Aaron Weisgerber in Bend, Oregon. Benjamin Ryan in Alliance, Ohio. There's Richard Gardner and I think he's in New York.
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John C. Dvorak
It's Andrew, but you always say that. You always say Richard's in New York, but that's Andrew Gardner. Gardner in New York.
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Adam Curry
Oh, where's Richard?
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John C. Dvorak
I don't know.
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Adam Curry
Richard, tell us where you are. I always. Oh, it's Andrew Gardner that's in New York, but I always say Richard is well, Maybe he likes thinking he's in New York always.
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John C. Dvorak
Don't you remember? Don't you believe me? Go Bingit IO.
- [181:05]
Adam Curry
See? See people, that's what I have to deal with. Ridicule. Ox. Other. Wow, what a name. Otherix.
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John C. Dvorak
Ox. Othericks on the stick for you everybody. How you doing?
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Adam Curry
Z100, Buffalo, New York. Tricia in Satsuma, Florida. Sir Michael in Snohomish, Washington. And last on the list, our good buddy Leanne Shipley. And she's also in Washington in Covington. We want to thank these people for making show 1794 a great show.
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John C. Dvorak
Yes, a very good show. We've had some laughs as well and we appreciate the value that you return for the value we serve up to you. We do it as a public service and we're quite happy to do it. Enjoyable lifestyle. Somewhat. Somewhat roller coastery, but it's enjoyable lifestyle. And as requested, we got the karmas.
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Adam Curry
Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.
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John C. Dvorak
And again, thank you to everyone who came in under $50 for reasons of anonymity or perhaps you were one of those sustaining donors. Everybody can at least give us something on a regular basis. You can set it up as a recurring donation@noagendadonations.com and again thanks to our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1793. Sir camera. Chris wishes his oldest human resource Christian a happy birthday celebrates on today. Also Malcolm Riley, happy birthday to his pops, he turned 71 today. And Malcolm Riley, happy birthday to his baby brother, turns 31 today. How about that? Hey, Andre Mackey turns 18 on the 29th. How about I remember when he was born. That's crazy. Mandy Smith wishes her super duper husband Big Smitty a happy one for September 5th. Also added to the list, Augusto Andreoli tomorrow. Sir Matthew, happy birthday to Sabrina Contreras tomorrow. And also happy birthday to Jared Bain and Wesley D. Stewart iii. Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. And now it's time ladies and gentlemen to roll them all out. All hail to the Secretary Generals. Cause they are the ones who need hailing. All hail to the Secretary General on the no Agenda show. Yeah baby. We congratulate Sir Paul, Secretary General of Alpental at SNOQUALUMNE. Sir Commodore SX64, Secretary General of Lake Granger area at Milam county. And Augusto Andreoli, Secretary General of Sao Paulo. These are your brand new Secretary generals who receive an official proclamation information which soon will be available@noagendarings.com please. All hail to the secretary generals of the no Agenda show. They deserve your respect and shall always be addressed with the honorable secretary general of wherever they are from. Come on, man, how about that jingle?
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Adam Curry
Where'd that come from?
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John C. Dvorak
Well, what do you mean? Would it come from our producers? Of course.
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Adam Curry
We got the best dynamite jingle. That tops it.
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John C. Dvorak
We got the best producers in the universe, man.
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Adam Curry
Well, that guy, whoever did that, you should credit.
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John C. Dvorak
Well, that is a very good question. Hold on, I should. Hold on a second.
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Adam Curry
That goes through all this work, we take all the credit.
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John C. Dvorak
Thank you very much. We appreciate what you did. And now I. Oh, here it is. Jeff Woodward. There we go. Jeff Woodward. Jeff Woodward is an awesome dude. All right, we have a dame and a couple of nights.
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Adam Curry
That is very.
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John C. Dvorak
That is, it's, it's great.
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Adam Curry
Ten pointer. It's. That is as good as it gets.
- [185:05]
John C. Dvorak
That is. All right, grab your blade. We got some knightings and I got.
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Adam Curry
One right here that's beautiful.
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John C. Dvorak
Hey, actually the dame is Shona. You know, Woof woof and Paul of Bellevue, Washington. Commodore SX64 and Hank Hop up on the podium. All of you supported the no Agenda show in the amount of $1,000 or more. Therefore I am very proud to pronounce the Kate the as dame Shona, the protector of Katrina survivors. Sir Tal Paul, Sir Commodore SX64 and Sir Hank Itami for you. We have hookers and blow rinpoys and chardonnay, not to forget mega sized cup of grapefruit sour along with a bowl of cookies and cream ice cream. We've got redheads and ryes. We've got sparkling cider escorts, ginger ale and gerbils. And of course we always have the mutton and the mead here for you, all of you including the dog dame show. Now head over to noagenderrings.com please let us know exactly what ring size you are expecting. We'll send it off to you. It's a signet ring. So we throw in a couple of sticks of wax, real sealing wax so that you can seal your important correspondence with with it. And as always, a certificate of authenticity from your uncle boomers Adam and John here at the no Agenda show. Welcome to the roundtable. Well, you heard it earlier, connection is protection. You definitely get that at your no agenda meetups. You can find them all@noagendameetups.com on Saturday, the flight of the no Agenda Number 66. This is 3:33pm in the Sanctuary Zone at the HMS Bounty in Los Angeles, California. Leo Bravo hosting that he's One of the longest meetup hosters in, I think, no Agenda history. Also on Saturday, the no Agenda Central Ohio meet up at 5:30 at Jackie O's in Columbus, Ohio. And on Sunday, our next show day, the annual South Jersey Pig Roast meetup. Five o'. Clock. That will be at Dam Wen's house in Medford Lakes, New Jersey. So you do have to RSVP because it is somebody home. Damn, Wen. Damn, Wen. Maybe it's Dame. Maybe the. Maybe I would have to say Dame Wen's house. Yes. You know, Jay is slipping. She missed two birthdays. They got spelling. Is this because Brennan lost his job? She's all freaked out or what's going on? I register a complaint.
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Adam Curry
I will pass it along.
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John C. Dvorak
Please do. She's so sweet. She's so good. But we got to be strict. Spanking us back in. Coming up in September, Madison, Alabama. Houston, Texas. Hof Dorp in the Netherlands. South Slocan, British Columbia. Keyport, New Jersey. Oakland, California. Tilburg, the Netherlands. And remember, October 11th, the big Fredericksburg, Texas meetup. We're looking forward to seeing all of you there. Find the no Agenda meetups at the noagendameetups.com calendar. If you can't find one near you, start one yourself. Easy and always a party. Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days you want to be where you want me triggered or hell, you want to be where everybody feels the same.
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Adam Curry
It's like a party.
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John C. Dvorak
Yeah, baby. Big, big, big party. Remember, send me those meetup reports. We don't get them often enough. Seems like you only have one. One ISO here.
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Adam Curry
I have one ISO.
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John C. Dvorak
You want to keep that for the end? I got three. You want to keep it for the end?
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Adam Curry
Yeah. Go. Give you your three.
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John C. Dvorak
Okay. They're just durka, durka, Muhammad Jihad, durka, durka, durka, durka. I'm sorry. Here's another one. Good job, guys. It's not too bad. Nice and clear. Or this one. Where the hell are these guys getting all of this? Those are my three entrants for end of show ISO.
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Adam Curry
Well, those are all three good ones, actually.
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John C. Dvorak
Thank you.
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Adam Curry
Especially the one. Let's play that first one again.
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John C. Dvorak
They're just durka, durka, Muhammad, God, Durga, dura, Durga, Durga.
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Adam Curry
Got nothing to do with anything.
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John C. Dvorak
No, that's why I like it so much.
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Adam Curry
That's really good though.
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John C. Dvorak
Yeah.
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Adam Curry
I just have a clip from a Hank Harrison new King of the Hill show.
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John C. Dvorak
No. Here we go.
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Adam Curry
I don't believe this.
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John C. Dvorak
They're lying on the news. Okay, I like that one. I think you win. You knew it. That's why you only had one. He's like, it's a shoeing and it's not even AI that is it? Everybody, are you standing by for John's tip of the day? He's ready to roll for you. Great advice for you and me, just the tip with JCD and sometimes Adam.
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Adam Curry
Okay.
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John C. Dvorak
Okay.
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Adam Curry
So I, this is a screwball tip because I came across it because I'm reading somebody's substack column and they sell this stuff and it's. I said this is interesting. So I looked into it and then I got irked by the fact that they're selling this stuff at like three times what you can buy it for any place. Place in the world. And so I got a little annoyed but I looked at. This is a product. This is a sugar. A sugar. This is a sugar.
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John C. Dvorak
Oh honey, honey.
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Adam Curry
A sugar substitute that is looks to be safe, not toxic. It's. And people should look this up. Do your own research but look this stuff up. You can buy it every. Everybody makes it because there's about three or four factories here and there that, that produce it. It's. It's produced from as. It's a natural occurring substance that you can also extract from fructose. So it's, it's a factory made product the way I see it. And it's called elulose. A L L O I'm sorry, A L L U L O S E A L L U L O SE and I'll read from the, from the. Google here. It's a rare natural sugar found in small quantities in certain fruits like figs for example, have this stuff and raisins, for some reason it offers the sweetness of fructose yet is metabolically distinct. Is. Does not affect glucose or insulin levels in any way, shape or form. So it's neutral on the body and has no calories. Basically it's got really like a point something calories and it tastes just like sugar. Exactly the same.
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John C. Dvorak
And so. And, but this is not a chemical. It's some kind of extract.
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Adam Curry
It's. It's, it's actually, it's the, it's the C3 epimer of fructose. So it's, it's produced. It's. It's a chemical like sucrose and they're all chemicals. At the end of the day you.
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John C. Dvorak
Go ahead and you eat that. I'll just have sugar.
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Adam Curry
Yeah, you can have your sugar.
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John C. Dvorak
Yeah.
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Adam Curry
Which is a chemical by the way.
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John C. Dvorak
If you haven't noticed, sugar is a chemical.
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Adam Curry
Yeah, of course it is. It's sucrose.
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John C. Dvorak
Well, how about cane sugar?
- [192:02]
Adam Curry
It's extracted at a refinery.
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John C. Dvorak
How about if I just stick a sugar cane into something I want sweetened? Is that okay?
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Adam Curry
That would be fine. Or you could do what I like to do, which is use maple syrup.
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John C. Dvorak
Oh, I love doing that.
- [192:17]
Adam Curry
Everything.
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John C. Dvorak
You know what I do with my maple syrup when I make salmon and we get salmon special from somebody who's actually getting it from somewhere that's not from some farm. So we have it only once a month maybe. So I will drizzle a little bit of maple syrup on the top, and then I will put on lemon pepper. And then I do 12 minutes at 390 in the oven, and then five, because it's big pieces. Five minutes under the broiler. 500. Oh, man. And then that maple syrup, it just comes to life.
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Adam Curry
And that's your recipe for overcooked salmon. Now, going back to this tip of the day, this is a. You do not pay more than. This is not a cheap product. That's why you don't see it in Diet Coke or anything. So it's about $10 a pound. Do not pay more than $10 a pound. You should be able to get it even cheaper. Cheaper if you buy it in bulk. Do not pay over 10 bucks a pound, which you're just getting ripped off if that's the case. But it's. It's called Lulose. That's the tip of the day. As a sugar substitute. That is actually probably a good product.
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John C. Dvorak
There you go. Everybody does John's tip of the day. Find them all@tipoftheday.net just the tip with JCD and sometimes Adam, created by Dana Brunetti. Yes, Dana Brunetti, the cheapskate cheapskate producer. And that concludes our broadcast day with that fine tip of the day from John. And my tip for overcooked salmon. I don't think so. These are big pieces. I do not overcook my salmon.
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Adam Curry
But if they're big Giant, I guess.
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John C. Dvorak
They'Re big giant pieces. Big Giant. Giant. We don't miss Texas, man. We don't mess around. Hey, stay tuned to noagendastream.com because you know John doesn't like Trollroom IO for the DH Unplugged podcast. I have not heard this episode. It's titled Jackson Holy. Well, that promises to be interesting. And we shall be listening for that. Also, End of show mix is classic from a friend who we haven't heard from in a long time. Sir Chris from Down under and brand new from Sir Joe Joho. Sir Joho singing about the British flag protest coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill country right here in Fredericksburg, Texas in the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon.
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Adam Curry
Valley where we advocate for Bingit IO, I'm John C. Dvorak.
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John C. Dvorak
We return on Sunday. Please join us then for more media deconstruction and remember us@noagendadonations.com until then. Adios mo Fos or who we hooey and such. Well, I watched TV with Danny LaRue who dressed for his own pleasure and we all saw decathlon Bruce become Ms. Caitlyn Jenner. I've never been to a White House ball sponsored by Big Pharma or invited to a party that was hosted by Michelle Obama. Social justice moves too fast for me. Home of homophobia is the place to be what is a woman's now up for debate? They say they're not gay they're definitely not straight Use the right pronouns or you'll feel the hate that's why the.
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Adam Curry
Lady A trance.
- [196:16]
John C. Dvorak
Male pattern baldness is under those curls Looks like a drag queen in a minute Pearls can't quite fit in with the rest of the girls that's why the lady is a transition she's got that excess bodily hair Something down there to choke A bloke from California with a fake neo clan that's why the lady is a transition Wave it high, wave it wide they can't silence what's inside Authorities don't want to see flags of pride and unity Commies frown and rude rulers glare but we still raise them in the air push them bully still we stand showing pride for our lives Raise it up, let the flags all fly they can't stop us still they try Raise it up, let the whole world see unity.
- [197:51]
Adam Curry
You and me.
- [198:00]
John C. Dvorak
St. George cross above the crowd Union Jack is flying proud Scotland's blue and Ireland's green whale still roars the dragon scene Push Tamboy still we stand showing pride for all in all Raise it up let the flags all fly they can't stop us till they try Raise it up, let the whole world see unity in you and.
- [198:34]
Adam Curry
Me.
- [198:40]
John C. Dvorak
St. George cross above the crowd row Union Jack is flying proud Scotland's blue and island's green whale still roars the dragon se wow. They don't like it we don't care.
- [199:04]
Adam Curry
Still our colors fill the air.
- [199:11]
John C. Dvorak
Raise it up, let the flags all fly they can't stop us still they try Raise it up let the whole world see Unity in you and me Best podcast in the universe. Audio Mofo. Devorak.
- [199:47]
Adam Curry
Org.
- [199:48]
John C. Dvorak
Na. I don't believe this. They're lying on the news.