No Agenda Show

Episode 1798 - "Adam & The Robot"

Hosts: Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak
Date: September 11, 2025

Overview

In this episode, Adam and John deconstruct the media frenzy around the dramatic assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk, examine the wave of political violence and social divisiveness hitting America, and analyze global unrest—from protests in France and Nepal to suspicious deaths in Germany. The show pivots between deep dives into news narratives, classic No Agenda skepticism, and a spirited discussion about the rapidly changing technological and political landscape.

Key Discussion Points

1. In Memoriam & September 11th Reflection

(00:45 - 01:30)

• The passing of Todd Cochran, early podcasting pioneer and No Agenda knight, noting his sudden death at 61.
• Reflection on the anniversary of September 11 and the infamous “unscathed hijacker passport.”
  • John: “Let’s not forget that.” (01:48)

2. The Assassination of Charlie Kirk

(01:50 - 43:11)

• Adam reads a powerful note from an Iraq veteran who drew a personal parallel between Kirk’s death and scenes of war.

• Both hosts frame the killing as a pivotal moment; Adam—emotional and patriotic—vows an “American agenda.”

  “From now on I got an agenda. An American agenda. And that’s based on what Charlie Kirk stood for. Truth according to the word of God.” - Adam (03:23)

• Media Narrative & Conspiracy Theories:

  • ABC reports ammunition engraved with transgender and Antifa messages; skepticism from Adam (“convenient”) and John.
  • Social media posts from trans activists foreshadowing violence; strange alignment of a question about trans shooters and the timing of the assassination (just 11 seconds apart).

• Adam: “Time to put down our phones and pick up our Bibles.” (03:34)

• Gunman’s Modus Operandi:

  • Suggestion of a “professional hit”: bolt-action sniper, decoys, FBI confusion.
  • Policework analysis by Michael Letts, highlighting forensic steps and political context.

    “This would have been a well-coordinated and a well-planned attack… not just some off the cuff disgruntled leftist.” - Michael Letts (22:32)

• Blame and Societal Breakdown:

  • Montage of incendiary political rhetoric from public figures, emphasizing the climate of hate.

    “When you have weak people who clearly are mentally ill, this kind of rhetoric can stir people up to nut job stuff.” - Adam (12:47)

  • Raw examples of social media celebrations of Kirk’s death (notable: “Charlie Kirk was a fucking Nazi…” – TikTok woman, 17:13).
  • Adam’s increased cynicism toward political/medical/media institutions—including discussion of Israel’s role and Kirk’s controversial stance on Israel.

• Security Lapses:

  • Debate on Kirk’s security detail; both express disbelief that an open-air event in “lily white” Utah didn’t have sufficient counter-sniper measures.

3. Civil Unrest and Conspiracies Abroad

France: “Block Everything”

(43:30 - 51:17)

• Detailed look at France’s “block everything” protest, seen as a socialist, anti-austerity move and co-opted by leftist groups.
• Tightly organized campaigns reminiscent of “blackout the system” movements in the U.S.—using financial leverage as nonviolent resistance.

Germany: AFD Candidate Deaths

(63:00 - 66:27)

• Multiple sudden deaths among far-right AFD party candidates fuel conspiracy theories (“statistically almost impossible”), but media and police attribute it to natural causes and suicide in a large candidate pool.

Nepal: Gen Z Uprising

(87:44 - 89:38)

• Violent protests flare after social media bans, highlighting the potency of digital culture and youth unrest.

4. The March to War: Drones, GPS Jamming, and Article 4

NATO & Russia-Ukraine

(68:31 - 82:00)

• Reports of Russian drones entering Polish airspace trigger Poland to invoke NATO Article 4 (“consultative mechanism”).

  “We have seen a ruthless and unprecedented violation of Poland and Europe’s airspace by more than 10 Russian Shahed drones.” - Ursula von der Leyen (70:24)

• Article 4’s historical use (detailed via AI assistant “Irvine”), and speculation about escalations into broader NATO/Russian conflict.

• Tensions over Israeli strikes into Qatar, U.S./Trump’s plausible deniability, and a frustrated sense that “the world needs a war” for economic or political reset.

5. Media, Censorship & AI Content Slop

(122:22 - 131:40 & 124:56 - 128:45)

• Adam and John debate what to do about the coming onslaught of low-quality, AI-generated podcasts (“slop”)—should they be banned or tagged?

  “Do we ingest these 5,000 AI slop podcasts? Do we ban them?” - Adam (128:32)

  • Adam: Index all, keep it open. John: Censorship would betray the No Agenda mission.

• MIT’s GenAI business report: $30-40 billion invested, but “95% of organizations are getting zero return.”

6. Technology, Generational Gaps & AI

(91:32 - 109:03)

• Skewering of Apple’s “brand new” iPhones, Oracle’s cloud surge, and AI hype.
• Discussion of Gen Z’s lack of digital literacy (“I heard this myself—‘I need to make a new account, I forgot my password’”).
  • John: “The Zeds are raised with everything—and they don’t know how to use it...” (108:04)

7. Health Policy & Pharma

(110:45 - 118:57)

• Ursula von der Leyen—revealed to actually be an MD—calls for a new EU “Global Health Resilience Initiative,” condemning vaccine skepticism.

• U.S.: President’s executive order reinstates strict side-effect disclosure for pharma ads, reducing their volume and transparency.

  “He has got to pull the plug on TV advertising immediately.” - John, echoing the importance of the new order (203:32)

• RFK Jr.’s “Make Our Children Healthy Again” commission pushes for studies on vaccine harm—mainstream experts dismiss skepticism.

• FDA quietly acknowledges Ivermectin can be used for Covid.

8. U.S. & UK Politics, Epstein Fallout

(164:58 - 172:28)

• Mandleson sacked as U.S. ambassador over Epstein ties.
• Trump’s signature in Epstein’s birthday book discussed; legacy allegations versus Democrat media campaign.

Notable Quotes & Moments

• Adam: “Put down our phones and pick up our Bibles.” (03:34)
• John: “When you have weak people who are clearly mentally ill, this kind of rhetoric can stir people up to nut job stuff.” (12:47)
• Adam: “World Wars have been started over one guy getting shot.” (09:57)
• John: “Yup, that podcast was a humdinger.” (206:25, ISO)

Memorable Segments/Timestamps

• Reflection on September 11 & Todd Cochran: 00:45 – 01:30
• Assassination of Charlie Kirk / Social Media Inventories: 01:50 – 09:39
• Montage of Political Violence Rhetoric: 10:44 – 12:47
• News Analysis with Michael Letts: 19:59 – 26:24
• France ‘Block Everything’ Protests: 43:30 – 51:17
• Drones, NATO, GPS Jamming: 68:31 – 82:00
• AI Podcast Content/Censorship Debate: 124:56 – 128:45
• Gen Z Tech Illiteracy: 106:57 – 109:47
• Pharma Ad Executive Order Discussion: 115:06 – 118:57
• Epstein/Trump Birthday Book: 167:47 – 170:03
• Advice: When buying sake, always get a Ginjo, and if it’s in a blue bottle, it’s usually great. (197:25-201:54)

Tone & Language

• Sardonic, skeptical, and irreverent as always
• Deeply personal (Adam’s patriotism and frustration; John’s eye for detail and historical context)
• True to the “media assassination” spirit: no mainstream narrative goes unchallenged

Closing Thoughts

Episode 1798 is a classic No Agenda blend of emotion, skepticism, and sharp wit. Confronting tragedy and chaos—from the Kirk assassination to global protest and AI disruption—the hosts reaffirm their commitment to free speech, independent thinking, and the value-for-value model. The show ends with tips on buying sake, a reminder that even amid turmoil, the little things (and the right blue bottle) still matter.

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