No Agenda Show – Episode 1803 “Drone Wall”

Hosted by Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak
Date: September 28, 2025

Episode Overview

In this episode, Adam and John dissect the week’s top political, social, and tech news with their signature irreverence, skepticism, and humor. The central themes are the escalating “drone wall” tensions in Europe, the aftermath of Charlie Kirk’s assassination, the Comey indictment, and the creeping advance of digital IDs—especially as seen in the UK—amid broader debates around censorship, propaganda, conspiracies, and media hypocrisy.

Listeners can expect a show packed with lively debate, media deconstruction, memorable clips, and classic No Agenda rants—along with analysis of psychological operations ("ops"), social media influence, vaccine discourse, and more.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Sumo, Violence, and Shifting Headlines (00:33–02:12)

• Opening banter about the Sumo wrestling champion and the body types of sumo wrestlers.
  • “Is it fat or is it muscle?” – Curry explains sumo wrestlers’ strength (01:02).
• Sudden shift to news of a church shooting in Michigan: shooting, attempted arson, and perpetrator suicide.
• Eric Adams is said to be dropping out of his campaign—speculation if he’ll join the Trump administration, which the hosts dismiss as a rumor.

2. Comey Indictment, Statutes, and Media Avoidance (04:52–11:37)

• Multiple clips on James Comey’s indictment for perjury and obstruction related to Russia investigation testimony.
• Adam notes the “trickery” in getting the indictment ahead of statute limitations by ensuring the alleged perjury occurred in Virginia, circumventing a non-indicting DC grand jury.
• Detailed explanation of the grand jury process:
  • “...The D.C. grand jury won’t indict anything...” (07:48)
  • Adam and John riff on how political grand juries have become.
• Discussion of Susan Rice’s self-exonerating memo and the ways officials try to cover for higher-ups (“king” analogy for President Obama).
• Jim Jordan clip: claims Obama admin altered intelligence assessments as part of the "Russia hoax" (14:19–15:27).

3. Cycle of Political Retribution (16:48–17:34)

• Varied reactions to Comey’s indictment:
  • Supercut of politicians: “No one is above the law.” (17:01–17:09)
  • John: “Round and round like a turd in a pot. Every five years or so, we bring up the same things. It’s never any different.” (17:10)

4. Digital ID in the UK & The Slippery Slope (18:01–31:42)

• Adam and John break down Labour leader Starmer’s plan for mandatory Digital ID by the end of Parliament:
  • “...you will not be able to work in the United Kingdom if you do not have digital ID.” – Starmer (18:41, 21:48)
• Lisa Nandy, Labour Minister, struggles to explain practicalities in interviews:
  • “We’re not planning to go around fining people. But we are going to make sure everybody’s got one.” – Nandy (24:31)
• John calls out public naivete over digital ID: “This is so dystopian what they’re doing, and I love this, this Lisa lady...” (25:35)
• Street interviews show Brits’ general apathy or trust, dismissing surveillance risk as they’re already “tracked” by phones (27:47).
• Adam and John draw parallels between digital ID, COVID QR codes, and social credit systems.
• Canada’s officials are asked if they’ll follow the UK—evasive answers suggest it’s “coming.” (32:11)
• John connects digital ID push to deliberate mass immigration as an excuse (“Cloward-Piven”/overwhelming the system).

5. COVID, Flu Season, and Vaccine Discourse (36:02–45:42)

• Annual reemergence of flu/COVID testing and vaccines—critique of persisting COVID hysteria.
• Discussion of flu shots, “trivalent” vaccines (Adam: “It’s always trivalent!”).
• Spotlight on Tylenol/vaccine controversy:
  • Dr. Christina Parks claims glutathione depletion (via Tylenol and vaccine immune response) linked to autism/ADHD:
    • “Tylenol is associated with autism because it depletes the body’s major antioxidant, glutathione.” – Dr. Parks (41:46)
• Producer letter highlights how doctors recommend Tylenol with vaccines, possibly suppressing healthy immune response.

6. Vaccine, Social Media, and True Crime Brain (46:32–55:44)

• Clips from individuals expressing vaccine concerns, and others expressing anti-Trump hysteria—showing America’s bifurcated reality.
• Adam notes the rise of “true crime” podcasting in the US and how stories like the Charlie Kirk assassination are treated more as whodunits than real news:
  • John laments: “We are living in ops…” (54:51)
• Discussion about how social media, especially TikTok, is the pipeline for both news and psychological manipulation.

7. Charlie Kirk Assassination & Conspiracy Theories (55:44–84:28)

• Major segment: Deconstructing the wild conspiracy theories surrounding Charlie Kirk’s murder and the alleged motives.
• Pastor Chuck Baldwin’s theory: Zionist “narrative” forces behind both pressure on Kirk and the aftermath.
• Max Blumenthal’s reporting is examined and found to be vague, with unsubstantiated claims about Israeli influence and threats.
• John: “This is an op by the very people who created the modern state of Israel... They love throwing this stuff out there when all they wanted to do was stop Charlie Kirk, possibly the next Trump.” (77:45)
• Analysis of bullet ballistics supports the official version of events, not the “exploding pager” or “DJI mic bomb” theories circulating online.
• Adam suggests MI6/UK intelligence could be pushing destabilizing narratives; both agree about historic British antagonism to American populism/protestantism.

8. Media Bifurcation and the Age of ‘Ops’ (88:04–113:20)

• Discussion of divisiveness, rise of militant language among anti- and pro-Trumpers.
• Showcase of “TDS” (Trump Derangement Syndrome) sufferers who antagonize or isolate themselves due to politics (109:00).
• TikTok’s influence: now a top news source for younger Americans.
• Netanyahu clip discussing the necessity of social media dominance: “You can’t fight today with swords. That doesn’t work very well… And the most important ones are on social media.” (114:49)
• John and Adam muse on how global social media ops—Jewish/Israeli, British, American—are shaping public opinion.

9. Supercut Sunday – Media Hypocrisy, Censorship, and Fascism (142:07–150:12)

• A series of “supercuts” highlight media hypocrisy about censorship, “fascism,” and the “Gestapo.”
  • “No one is above the law!” (supercut of politicians, 17:01)
  • Talk show hosts celebrating Trump’s Twitter ban and later decrying censorship (144:12)
  • “We are now living in a fascist dictatorship country.” (147:22)
• John: “The hypocrisy in the media is beyond belief.” (146:58)

10. Drone Wall & Ukraine War (152:48–156:49)

• Reports of increasing drone incursions in Europe and EU’s proposal for a “drone wall”—an electronic defense system against drones from Russia and Ukraine.
• Ukraine seen as the current leader in anti-drone tech—Adam and John skeptical about the media’s numbers and narrative.
  • “There are now more Russian drone attacks on Ukraine than ever before... 619 drones and missiles, killing at least three people...”
  • John: “600 drones, 3 people killed? Does anybody ever question these numbers?” (155:15)

11. Show Wrap: Value for Value; Meetups; Production Notes

• Brief notes on the show’s value-for-value (V4V) model; acknowledgments to donors.
• “John’s Tip of the Day” – recommends $25 Chinese fitness tracker as an alternative to expensive smartwatches (177:56).
• Technical talk on audio production and equipment.
• Upcoming No Agenda meetups announced and encouraged (174:29).

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• On Grand Juries & Statutes:
  • Adam: “In Washington, D.C. apparently... a grand jury can’t even indict a ham sandwich.” (10:00)
• John on No Agenda Art Generator:
  • “My friend suggested that an entire thesis could be done on the No Agenda Art Generator...” (03:14)
• Supercut:
  • Multiple: “No one is above the law!” (17:01–17:09)
• On Brits and Digital ID:
  • John: “This is so dystopian what they’re doing...” (25:35)
  • Adam: “Most people don’t get it. It’s unbelievable.” (25:53)
• True Crime and Media Conditioning:
  • John: “We have been so conditioned by media... Now the never ending... everything is a whodunit, murder mystery.” (54:37)
• OP-Style Theories about Kirk:
  • John: “This is an op by the very people who created the modern state of Israel... They love this and love throwing this stuff out there.” (77:45)
• Digital ID Social Control:
  • Adam: “When you talk about a digital ID card, it’s not like your boarding pass. It’s going to be an app... you may or may not be granted access based upon whatever they determine.” (30:38)
• Hypocrisy Supercut:
  • Adam: “The hypocrisy in the media is beyond belief.” (146:58)
  • John: “Round and round like a turd in a pot...” (17:10)
• On Social Media Ops:
  • John: “You know, we need... JOP, the Jew op... It’s the same op." (113:44)
• On Vaccine Debate:
  • Dr. Parks: “Tylenol is associated with autism because it depletes the body’s major antioxidant, glutathione.” (41:46)
• On True Crime Podcasting:
  • Adam: “True crime, yes. It was Serial that brought podcasting back...” (52:51)
• On Elon Singing in Church:
  • John: “Elon singing along is not all—it’s not like he knows all the words of the songs...” (99:11)
• Wrap Up:
  • John: “Just calm down, everybody... This kid shot him. This kid was psyoped himself... but man, your podcasts are not serving you well at the moment.” (87:41)

Notable Segments & Timestamps

• Comey indictment media coverage/analysis: (04:52–17:34)
• UK Digital ID deep-dive (Starmer, Nandy): (18:01–36:02)
• Vaccine + Tylenol/Glutathione theory: (41:46–45:42)
• Charlie Kirk conspiracy/“op” theory breakdown: (55:44–84:28)
• Supercut Sunday (media hypocrisy, fascism, Gestapo): (142:07–150:12)
• Drone wall and Ukraine reporting: (152:48–156:49)

Conclusion: The No Agenda Worldview

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak offer a wide-ranging, deeply skeptical review of world events, continuously questioning mainstream narratives and connecting dots others miss (or invent). In this episode, recurring themes include the weaponization of government process, digitization as social control, the propensity for conspiracy theories in alternate media ecosystems, “ops” as a root explanation, and the dangerous bifurcation of political/media spheres.

Listeners are encouraged to remain vigilant, question all official narratives, and not fall for every “op”—whether British, Israeli, American, or otherwise.

“Have these two ever done a bad show?” (177:30)

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