1806 - "Gray Zone"

Summary

No Agenda Show, Episode 1806 – “Gray Zone”

Hosts: Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak
Date: October 9, 2025

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Episode Overview

Episode 1806 of the No Agenda Show, entitled “Gray Zone,” features hosts Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak in their signature media deconstruction style. They analyze recent media coverage, political developments in the U.S. and Europe, and current events ranging from the deployment of National Guard troops in American cities to the acquisition of news outlets, the European "gray zone" drone campaigns, and much more. The duo also dig into narratives on antisemitism, the Middle East, conversion therapy, and economic manipulations, all with their trademark sarcasm, skepticism, and media-savvy wit.

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Key Topics and Highlights

Dolly Parton, Vaccines, & Media Messaging

[01:27] – [03:43]

• Discussion about public worries over Dolly Parton’s health and her media appearance promoting vaccination.
  • Memorable Quote:
    • Dolly Parton: “Do I look sick to you? I’m working hard here… Nothing major, but I did have to cancel some things so I could be closer to home, closer to Vanderbilt, you know, where I'm kind of having a few treatments… but I wanted you to know that I’m not dying. Vaccine.” [01:59]
    • Curry and Dvorak riff on the media’s use of certain talking points and the "most definitely" catchphrase.

The 3x3 Media Comparison

[03:59] – [15:33]

• John's 3x3 Segment: compares news coverage on ABC, NBC, and CBS regarding the deployment of National Guard troops to Chicago and Portland:
  • Across networks, coverage is criticized as highly propagandistic and focused on narrative, rather than fact.
  • Debate about whether Trump is threatening to invoke the Insurrection Act.
  • Media framing around "crime crackdowns," “unconstitutional invasions,” and the painting of cities like Chicago as “hellholes.”
  • Notable Exchange:
    • Curry: “I mean, the propaganda is strong on this one. Our own people are falling for it. It's interesting.” [06:31]
    • Dvorak: “Trump and the thuggery that his agents have brought has actively made us less safe. The President tonight says that's just not true. It's like a war zone.” [05:05]

Skydance, Barry Weiss, and the “Rightward Shift” Controversy at CBS

[15:33] – [27:09]

• Analysis of Skydance’s acquisition of Bari Weiss’s Free Press, speculation on the announced $150 million price, and discussion of Weiss’s new role at CBS.
  • Dvorak is deeply skeptical of the reported price, suggesting creative corporate bookkeeping.
  • NPR coverage:
    • Bari Weiss presented as a “contrarian” and the “editor-in-chief,” which Adam asserts is a mostly ceremonial title in TV news, doubting she’ll actually run the news division.
    • Notable Quote:
      • Dvorak: “She’s no different than anybody else that's working in media, period. She's not like I'm going to shake things up.” [20:39]
      • NPR: “The real key in media and changing the way the propaganda is set up and pushed out is simple. It's just story selection.” [27:28]

Jimmy Kimmel's Ratings Collapse

[29:15] – [30:26]

• Discussion on Jimmy Kimmel’s loss of 85% of his comeback viewership, with both hosts mocking the failed attempts to revive his show.

The Candace Owens “Dead Man Switch”

[31:33] – [41:00]

• Candace Owens claims to have distributed a "dead man switch" package of evidence in case of harm, following allegations and conspiracy theories surrounding Charlie Kirk's death, Israeli influence, and antisemitism.
  • Hosts mock and dissect the emergence of figures like John Mappin (with his “North Sea Nexus” and reforestation initiatives), highlighting a spiral of bizarre, conspiratorial online discussions.
  • Curry: “Is this the Jews? Is it Israel? I'm not sure who it is, but they are coming after Candace and her family.” [37:35]

Zionism, U.S. Foreign Policy, and Antisemitism

[43:23] – [71:52]

• Deep historical dive into the military-industrial complex’s relationship with Israel, the separation between Zionism and Jewish identity, and recurring media and political tropes.
  • Michael Hudson audio: details how U.S. sought to use Israel as its “Foreign Legion.”
  • Exposes media reliance on Gaza Health Ministry/Hamas figures, the lack of Western reporters in Gaza, and the artificiality of the “numbers game.”
  • Curry: “The problem I have with this is that people are confusing Zionists with Jewish people. And Candace Owens throwing gasoline on the fire by saying, those people… It’s the Jews.” [67:17]

European Political Turmoil: Macron, France, and the EU

[72:35] – [81:45]

• France’s political crisis following PM Le Cornu’s resignation; Macron’s weakness and the deadlocked parliament are scrutinized.
  • Hosts dissect how the fragmented French republic – now on its fifth iteration – is stuck and unable to enact reforms.
  • Dvorak: “The thing's a mess. The right wingers have got to take over.” [80:09]

“Gray Zone” – EU, NATO, Russia, and Drone/Hybrid War Hysteria

[82:03] – [94:14]

• Breakdown of the new “targeted gray zone campaign” narrative, with drone incursions, “hybrid war” language, and legislative responses in Germany and Lithuania.
  • Hosts posit this is mostly a financial scam to keep European defense money within the EU, under the pretense of countering Russian threats.
  • Curry: “This is a giant psyop and it's just to not send the money to us.” [93:24]

Antifa, Domestic Unrest & Foreign Funding

[97:21] – [102:41]

• Media and Trump administration designating Antifa as both a domestic and possibly international terrorist organization.
  • Open Society Foundation, City of London, and “North Sea Nexus” are tongue-in-cheek named as destinations for “following the money.”

Economic Manipulation & Housing

[103:19] – [110:58]

• Luongo’s “Gold, Guns and Goats” podcast idea: U.S. housing policies (Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac) manipulated to undermine middle class wealth and sow the seeds of Marxist/socialist revolution.

Vaccine Court Exposé

[155:24] – [166:19]

• Detailed critique of 60 Minutes report on the National Vaccine Court; U.S. government indemnification of vaccine manufacturers, undercompensation of victims, and the “no-fault” payout system.
  • Curry: “This is a disgrace. So what this lawyer is doing is she's saying, well, you can either get, get some money or you can opt out of getting any money whatsoever, then go and sue them on your own. Good luck.” [161:14]

End-of-Show Banter: PodPing, Gen Z, and Listener Feedback

• The show closes with extended audience interaction, Value-for-Value appointment, donation reading, “John’s Tip of the Day”—highlighting Tubi as a top free streaming TV option, and the end-of-show mix.

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Featured Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On U.S. Media Coverage [06:31]:
  Curry: “The propaganda is strong on this one. Our own people are falling for it. It's interesting.”

• On Media’s Shift [20:39]:
  Dvorak: “She’s no different than anybody else that's working in media, period. She's not like I'm going to shake things up.”

• On France’s political gridlock [80:09]:
  Dvorak: “The thing’s a mess. The right wingers have got to take over.”

• On European ‘gray zone’ funding [93:24]:
  Curry: “This is a giant psyop and it's just to not send the money to us.”

• On Candace Owens’ conspiracy [37:35]:
  Curry: “Is this the Jews? Is it Israel? I’m not sure who it is, but they are coming after Candace and her family.”

• On Zionism vs. Jewish identity [67:17]:
  Curry: “People are confusing Zionists with Jewish people. And Candace Owens throwing gasoline on the fire… It’s the Jews.”

• On the Vaccine Court [161:14]:
  Curry: “This is a disgrace… you can either get some money or you can opt out of getting any money whatsoever, then go and sue them on your own. Good luck.”

• On Kimmel's ratings collapse [29:15]:
  Curry: “Of course, you won’t see it as a headline—after his glorious comeback, Jimmy Kimmel sheds 85% of his key viewers.”

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Important Timestamps

• 01:27 — Dolly Parton health scare, vaccine promo
• 04:01 — JCD's “3x3” media comparison
• 15:33 — CBS/Bari Weiss/Skydance acquisition
• 29:15 — Jimmy Kimmel’s ratings woes
• 31:33 — Candace Owens “dead man switch”
• 43:23 — Zionism, US foreign policy, antisemitism deep dive
• 72:35 — French/European political crisis
• 82:03 — “Targeted gray zone campaign”/Hybrid war/EU defense spending
• 97:21 — Antifa: domestic/unrest/funding
• 103:19 — Economic housing manipulation/Gold, Guns and Goats
• 155:24 — Vaccine Court segment
• 170:55 — Listener donations & audience interaction

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Final Note on Tone and Style

This episode was densely packed—in true No Agenda style—with unsparing sarcasm, inside jokes, media references, dry humor, and relentless skepticism of both mainstream and alternative narratives. Curry and Dvorak encourage critical listening, mock sensationalism, and frame themselves as outsider media analysts questioning power and “social control scripts” across the world.

If you missed the episode, this summary offers a comprehensive roadmap of the major themes, media criticism, and the hosts’ unique perspective, highlighted with their most quotable moments.

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Next episode: Tune in Sunday, October 13, 2025, for another round of media deconstruction and cultural analysis with Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak.

Transcript

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I love the cans.

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Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.

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It's Thursday, October 9, 2025. This is your award winning gibbon issue media assassination episode 1806.

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This is no agenda.

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The queen survives. And we're broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill country here in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody.

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I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where we're wondering whatever happened to the Hamburglar? I'm John C. Dvorak. It's crackpot and buzzkill in.

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Did he go away? Did they remove the hamburglar from the McDonald's franchise?

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So I said, I'm wondering whatever happened to the Hamburglar.

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I don't know. I always liked the Hamburglar. Maybe it was too scary. The Hamburglar actually is the guy that Google put into Chrome that is sneaking through your computer screen when you reach a non SSL encrypted website. That's. That is the actual Hamburglar. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, that's the guy. So, news from Fredericksburg. Everybody's very, very upset here. Very worried, very concerned.

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This is. Oh, this is always a topper. Might as well start the show with Fredericksburg.

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Might as well. Not just Fredericksburg, but Nashville, Memphis. Everybody's very, very, very worried about Dolly Parton.

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Oh, yes, I did. Dolly Parton.

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Sick Dolly Parton. Well, no. Let's hear what she has to say.

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She is most definitely America strong Dolly Parton. With her new message today, she knows many are worse, mostly from playing for a football team. Huh?

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Well, I don't understand the reference.

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They always say most definitely. So how'd you do in today's game? Did you do well? Most definitely. They're always saying most definitely. It's a stupidest phrase. I hate it.

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Okay. She is most definitely show title. Most definitely. Write it down.

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She is most definitely America strong Dolly Parton. With her new message tonight, she knows many are worried about her health. So here tonight, Dolly in her own words. I wanted to say, I know lately everybody thinks that I am sicker than I am. Do I look sick to you? I'm working hard here. Anyway, I wanted to put everybody's mind at ease. Those of you that seem to be real concerned, which I appreciate, but I want you to know that I'm okay. I've got some problems, as I mentioned. The doctor said we need to take care of this, we need to take care of that. Nothing major, but I did have to cancel some things so I could be closer to home, closer to Vanderbilt, you know, where I'm Kind of having a few treatments here and there, but I wanted you to know that I'm not dying. Vaccine.

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Vaccine, Vaccine, vaccine.

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I'm begging of you, please don't hesitate. Vaccine.

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Vaccine, Vaccine, Vaccine.

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Because once you're dead, then that's a bit too late. I know. I'm trying to be funny now, but I'm dead serious about the vaccine.

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And there it is. I figured we'd.

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We'd start the show off with yes. I didn't know she did that. Little Diddy.

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Oh, yeah, we. We played it on the show. It was part of the, you know, was a Hamburglar when Cuomo was offering burger and fries and.

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No, that. No, that was de Blasio.

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Yes. And what were the other things? Movie tickets. All kind of stuff. And then Dolly Parton got in on the game. There you go. So I see.

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Well, I guess that summarizes it pretty much.

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I. Later on, I do have a. A thing about the vaccine court, but that's not for now. You want to do your 3x3 because you got one. It's always exciting. The. The crowd is a crowd pleaser, a fan favorite. Everybody always wants to know what's happening.

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Now it's time for 3x3.

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It is an experiment by JCD. What do we do? Comparing stor stories from ABC and esn. NBC. Three by three. That's right, three by three. John's got the big headline news. Three by three on the big three networks. For as long as they're still on the air. We might as well compare.

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Well, they've been on the air for a while.

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They're on the air. They're on the air. So we compare.

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Well, let's start with ABC.

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ABC.

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It is on President Trump's orders. A plane carrying 200 National Guard soldiers now heading from Texas to Chicago against the wishes of the city's mayor and the governor of Illinois. Let me be clear. Donald Trump is using our service members as political props and as pawns in his illegal effort to militarize our nation's cities.

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The President calls it a necessary part.

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Of his crime crackdown. But Governor J.B. pritzker, who was fighting back in court, calls it an unconstitutional invasion of the state of Illinois.

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Trump and the thuggery that his agents.

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Have brought has actively made us less safe. The President tonight says that's just not true. It's like a war zone. And then I listen to the governor and the mayor get up and say how they have it under control. They don't. I believe that the Portland people are Scared. You look at what's happened with Portland over the years, it's. It's a burning hellhole. But over the weekend, a judge President Trump appointed himself says when it comes to Portland, the President's assessment is, quote, simply untethered to the facts, blocking the deployment of the Guard in the city. The President has focused on a group of protesters that have camped outside an ICE facility in Portland. But Judge Karen Emergut says those protesters are not significantly violent or disruptive, adding, this is a nation of constitutional law, not martial law. David. Tonight, as these legal battles play out in both Portland and Chicago, President Trump says he's considering invoking the Insurrection act, using emergency powers that would allow him to go around the courts to deploy the National Guard to both of those cities. David.

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Yeah, and we should probably point out we got an email from one of our producers who was mad, like, you are laughing at what's happening in Chicago. They're terrorizing brown people.

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And, yeah, he had some vague clips.

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Yeah, Clips of a guy blocking ICE and they threw a smoke or tear grenade and another black guy arrested a guy who got arrested.

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Kidnapping, he called it. Kidnapping.

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I mean, the propaganda is strong on this one. Our own people are falling for it. It's interesting.

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I ended up having to block that guy.

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Oh, I didn't. It wound up okay.

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No, it didn't. I got a nasty. No, he says I was a racist.

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Well, if you're gonna. You're not. I'm sorry.

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No, I am not a racist.

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No, no. Well, yeah, it was disappointing to say the least because his proof was literally none of that. He's saying every brown person is afraid of being rousted. And they said, here's proof, and it was nothing. I think it's because you sent some crazy libs of TikTok video back and said, here's your proof that, that. I don't think that helped the conversation.

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Well, I. I did throw a little kerosene on the fire. That's true. But.

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Yeah, just a tad, maybe, just.

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But I figured I could just block him anyway, so.

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All right, bye.

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Okay, well, let's move on. That was ABC. Yes, I believe we had NBC's lined up protests over immigration raids escalating in Chicago tonight. Federal prosecutors charging an alleged gang member with soliciting the murder of an unnamed senior law enforcement official taking part in immigration enforcement there saying Juan Espinoza Martinez posted in Snapchat 10k if you take him down. Authorities tonight also searching for the driver of this black SUV that the Department of Homeland Security Says repeatedly rammed into ICE agents in the white truck. While at a separate event, police appearing to be tear gas, though not injured, all as President Trump faces new legal battles in his efforts to deploy National Guard troops to two more cities.

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Donald Trump's deranged depiction of Chicago as.

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A hellhole was just complete BS After a federal judge blocked the President from deploying Oregon's National Guard to Portland, where protests against ICE have been escalating tonight, Chicago and the state of Illinois suing to try and prevent President Trump deployment of troops there.

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There was never an insurrection or an invasion on the ground that justified the.

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Deployment of the military to our American city. Though tonight the president saying he'd consider invoking the Insurrection Act. Well, I do it if it was necessary. So far it hasn't been necessary. We have to make sure that our cities are safe. As the White House blasts Democratic officials.

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That's literally the quote they're using to say he's threatening with the Insurrection Act. Is that. That's the quote.

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Yeah.

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Wow.

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American city, though, tonight the President saying he'd consider invoking the Insurrection Act. Well, I'd do it if it was necessary. So far it hasn't been necessary.

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He didn't say he's considering it. He didn't say that. He said, I'd do it if it was necessary. He didn't say I'm considering it.

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And he says I don't see. See it as necessary.

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Yeah.

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Justified the dip. Our American city, though, tonight, the President saying he'd consider invoking the Insurrection Act. Well, I'd do it if it was necessary. So far it hasn't been necessary. We have to make sure that our cities are safe. As the White House blast, Democratic officials noting there were four homicides and 29 people shot in Chicago this weekend. But the governor saying ICE is the one escalating tensions, pointing to this dramatic DHS video of a recent late night raid saying children were zip tied. Which the agency denies.

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Which I have still to see video of. Yeah.

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And there was also this comment about him being thrown out in the street.

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Naked. Yeah. Naked. Yes.

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Yeah. You think somebody would be. I mean, they're taping everything. You think that somebody would. The camera.

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They're still taping, Boomer.

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Really?

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They're still.

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Well, on the house. You put a videoing.

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Yeah, Recording.

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Videoing is just an awkward word.

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Say recording. Which kind of recording?

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Okay, there you go.

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Yeah.

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They're recording everything that they can. And so you think that they would be recording that. That. But they're not recording that for some reason. No, no, let's don't record that. So, so that's bull crap. But let's. Then we move on, of course, to the nothing to lose cbs. Although as we get into the Barry Weiss discussion later, if we do it, yeah, I don't think things are going to change much. But CBS has been bought out and taken over by David Ellison's operation. And so they either have nothing to lose.

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Sky Dance is Sky Dance.

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Sky Dance.

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Can I just say, that sounds pretty gay. Sky Dance, you know, like tiny Dancer. I always think of Elton Johnson, Hollywood operation.

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Sure sounds gay.

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Oh, there you go. Oh, sorry. Ready for cbs.

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So they. So there's a fear that, you know, they're going to turn into a right wing operation because of whatever fear they have, even though they don't have. You can't find enough right wing reporters. They've all given up on that gig. Yeah, the whole thing is a joke. But they're at the point where they're either gonna say, screw it, I'm gonna say what I feel like saying, or they're gonna be kind of, they're gonna back off. We don't know yet. But cbs, this is their report. For the last three weeks, clashes have erupted outside the Broadview, Illinois ICE processing center. Protesters say federal agents in riot gear used pepper balls gas to push them back from the facility. Dozens were detained as chaos spilled into the street in this confrontation. A local rabbi who had joined the demonstration was wrestled to the ground by state police. Over the weekend, President Trump ordered 300 Illinois National Guard troops to Chicago and up to 400 from the state of Texas. It's like a war zone. It's probably worse than almost any city in the world. But Illinois's Democratic governor, J.B. pritzker is pushing back, joining the state and city in a lawsuit to block that order.

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Donald Trump's derang depiction of Chicago as.

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A hellhole war zone and the worst and most dangerous city in the world was just complete bs. Hundreds of National Guard troops now on their way. Their mission, to protect the one city block in Broadview where the ice processing center is located. I'm Adam Yamaguchi outside the ICE facility in Portland, Oregon, where over the weekend Mayor Keith Wilson recently took us on a tour. This is really the home of innovation. That's always what Portland has been known for. But in seeking to deploy National Guard troops, the president has called the city war ravaged and on Sunday said this. Portland is burning to the ground. We often talk about protests, but they're.

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Huge, peaceful protests, mostly peaceful. I'm surprised. I got a very different report from NBC, from the Nightly News, which expanded much more on what Pritzker was saying. Did you hear any of this?

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Play it. I'll tell you if I did. National Guard troops are preparing to deploy to the streets of Chicago as the war of words between President Trump and Illinois.

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No, this is NBC. I think it's NBC.

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No, that's David Muir.

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Oh, then it's abc.

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Governor escalates. President Trump calling for the jailing now of Illinois Governor J.B. pritzker. Pritzker saying President Trump has dementia and has something stuck in his head and he can't get it out of his head. Calling President Trump's move an unconstitutional invasion. Alex Perez in Chicago.

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This is good stuff. This is material.

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Wait, wait.

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You get it. You're gonna get the full monty here.

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Hold on.

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Here it comes. Tonight, with 500 members of the Texas and Illinois National Guard preparing to fan out across Chicago, charged with securing federal agents and properties. The President ramping up his attack on the mayor and the governor, who called a deployment an unconstitutional invasion. The President calling for their arrest in an online post. Chicago mayor should be in jail for failing to protect ICE officers. Governor Pritzker also.

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Everything we're doing is very law. What they're doing is not lawful.

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But the governor calling the President a coward. He's demented, literally unhinged.

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And this is somebody who's so insecure.

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That he lashes out, pretending that he.

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Can come arrest people for no reason at all.

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He can't. In the last 24 hours, Pritzker saying the President has dementia.

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Aside from the fact that he's out of his mind and has dementia. I. Yeah, it's. It's clear to me that he is.

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Targeting Democratic cities, telling the Chicago Tribune, this is a man who's suffering dementia. This is a man who has something stuck in his head. He can't get it out of his head. He doesn't read.

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He doesn't know anything.

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That's up to date. Man, that sounds like that podcast, the Taco Tits podcast. He's got something stuck in his head. He doesn't read. He doesn't do anything. He doesn't know anything. He's no good. He's got dementia.

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I don't know that. Yeah, it was just a dumb report.

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Yeah, well, it was funny.

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It was definitely funny.

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Yeah, I like it.

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That's ABC's off the Rails. They may be the worst of the group.

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They'Ve gotten. They're worse than cbs. Well, it should all change. Let's do Barry Weiss because that's, you know, we talked about it when it was rumored and of course now the rumor appears to be true that Skydance has purchased Barry's news outfit, her substack.

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Lunch with a friend of my ex wife's friend. But he's been, I haven't seen him for a decade. He used to be at the Wall Street Journal and entrepreneurial guy and he's bitching about this. And I had to harken back to some of the things I witnessed when I was at Zif Davis with, with some of these companies and the fact that, you know, they, they bought a. Which basically a blog. The Barry Wise Free Press.

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No, it's worse. It's a substack. It's actually on someone else's platform.

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It's basically a blog. Well, it's a blog on a blogging platform.

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There you go.

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And so, and I can't fault substack. I mean I do a substack thing and they do good job of getting their stuff shipped. And so they spent 150 million bucks. But I don't believe it for a minute. My thinking is the following. We need to get you over to cbs, Barry. So what we're going to do is we're going to buy you out and we. How much? Well, okay, you can buy me out. How much do you think I can get here? Well, you know, we can give you a couple million.

[A]

That would be reasonable.

[B]

Okay, but can we do a deal here and you can make, can we both make a joint announcement? That's 150 million.

[A]

Well, maybe she got some stock.

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No, she didn't get any, she didn't get 150 million and so in stock or anything. And so although you could do some stock, you know, some kind of a scammish stock thing, you know that and, and so. Okay, let's make that announcement. So this friend of mine says you can't, it's a public company. You can't do that. And then my thinking was, look, have you ever seen for example just the, I don't know if people out there get a copy of this, the Disney for for example, the Disney Org chart with the thousands and thousands and thousands of little elements that are involved. You don't think you can't hide a couple million dollar transaction and then put something somewhere else and make it look like you, you know, bought it for 150. It's so, it's just creative bookkeeping. So I don't believe for a second she got $150 million. Hmm.

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Has there been any official announcement that it was $150 million?

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It was announced over a couple of times. It was said. They both said it was. Now, whether that I didn't see it on the. You know, it wasn't announced on a 4K or anything that I know of, but it's. Maybe if it was in a 4K, I'd believe it, but I don't see that.

[A]

But this is Skydance, not Disney. Is Skydance public?

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No, I'm just. I'm just. Paramount has the same. I was just making the point that if you look at the org chart of these giant corporations and Disney being the best example, you can hide. You can hide it.

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Yeah, yeah. Put it under a talent acquisition, or.

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You could put it under any. It doesn't matter. The whole thing is just that you can't find it. You can't find these numbers. So you can say you spent 150 million. You gave her a couple mil, maybe. And then she's off now doing this. The stuff over it. She'll be editor in chief. And this is another little ditty that I noticed. And the editor. Editor in chief. That is a publisher's position. There is no editor in chief at a news organization on tv. There's editorial directors. There's. There's Che. You know, there's all kinds of chief of this and chief of that. Or you can be the.

[A]

Well, hold on, hold on. This is an important point.

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Point.

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If she's editor in chief, she may be editor in chief of the blog.

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Well, she's still always going to be that.

[A]

Yeah, but that.

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But no, she said. They specifically said editor in chief of CBS News.

[A]

Yeah, okay. Editor in chief of CBS News, which is a meaningless title in the television news business. So she actually won't be running the television news division. How about that?

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I don't think she's going to be running it at all, because she's not even going to be. The reporting system is off, but I think she's going to have some influence. But I don't think it's going to be meaningful. And I think I sent you a. I don't have a clip from it, but I sent you because you know who we're talking about? Glenn Greenwald, who's a little wordy to say that. You mean Mr. Wordy.

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Oh, he hates Barry Weiss.

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He doesn't like Barry Weiss at all.

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And he's.

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And he says the. In his. On his Rumble.

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Rumble channel.

[B]

The system says. The system. She's just a She's just a pro Israeli. A pro Israel. Apex woke shill, shill. Who doesn't. She's no different than anybody else that's working in media, period. She's not like I'm going to shake things up.

[A]

That's what his just in charge of the CBS News blog. I think that they the title is correct.

[B]

Well, that's a possibility too. But let's listen to these clips. All right. This is mpr, np, npr, npr, Minnesota Public. No, it's npr. I put NPR because it's I made a mistake and I just copied it over.

[A]

That's no problem.

[B]

CBS News is expecting to get a.

[A]

New editor in chief, Barry Weiss, the founder of the Free Press, which she started as a response to mainstream news.

[B]

Outlets like her former employer, the New York Times. With that move, CBS seems to be.

[A]

Taking another step to appeal to the right and the parent company is also acquiring Barry Weiss's publication.

[B]

NPR's David Folkenflick is here to discuss all of this.

[A]

Hi there, David.

[B]

Good morning, Steve.

[A]

For those who don't know who is Bari Weiss.

[B]

So Bari Weiss is a writer and editor. She started out writing for Tablet and a publication about Jewish affairs. She wrote about opinion and books and also edited at the Wall Street Journal.

[A]

For its opinions pages. And she enjoyed the opinion pages.

[B]

The New York Times as sort of a right of center, contrari in made a name for herself, wrote increasingly under her own name and then left with a huge blast in July 2020 at sort of the peak of the social justice movement. She accused her colleagues in a letter she posted publicly that she sent to the publisher of the New York Times, A.G. salzberger. She accused her colleagues of bullying her and creating essentially an illiberal atmosphere, unwilling to tolerate debate and dissent in what she said was the smothering culture there.

[A]

And created the Free press kind of.

[B]

In opposition to that as a home for people right of center who saw the press, the media writ large as being reflexively somewhat liberal.

[A]

Somewhat just a tad, just a little bit liberal. Okay.

[B]

You know, the funny thing is I don't have this clip either. I got enough if you notice. I have enough clips.

[A]

You got 29 clips. You're over clipped.

[B]

So the she she had a little diddy. It was on Twitter. She went on and on about how what's happening and again wordy, she's just like Greenwald. You can't, you know, yak yak, yak, she says. And so we have our and she called her the group of people that do writing for the Free Press that blog. She calls them a band of misfits. She used the term misfits to describe her staff. I thought that was like, personally, if I was writing for her and I was, you know, in other words, I can't get work, I have to work for you. I mean, I thought it was an insult, a high insult that she just casually, you know, blathered off very. I was offended. And I didn't even work there.

[A]

Hey, she's got $150 million on paper.

[B]

Literally.

[A]

Paper.

[B]

So called Fu money, baby.

[A]

Fu money. You do whatever you want. Yeah, I get it. I'd be like that too.

[B]

Yeah. Well, there you have it. Onward. And she gained a lot from that departure in the end. Built up a brand new organization, built.

[A]

Up a big subscriber base, attracted a.

[B]

Lot of deep pocketed investors, and now.

[A]

Moves to a mainstream media organization. But what exactly will she do there?

[B]

Well, it's a question.

[A]

I'm told by folks inside the network.

[B]

That it's kind of fluid.

[A]

But she's editor in chief.

[B]

She certainly will be able to have almost whatever remit she wants.

[A]

People aren't expecting her to take command.

[B]

Of logistics, deploying people to cover a war or a hurricane or something. She doesn't have experience in that kind of complicated calibration and moves. But I think she's going to be working with Tom Zabrowski, who's staying on.

[A]

As the president of CBS News, to kind of set the tone, to figure.

[B]

Out the scope of coverage, the nature of coverage, the tenor of coverage. She can have a finger in every pie. She's still going to be running the Free Press, which is this right of center publication that'll still have its brand separate from CBS News.

[A]

But that's the question that I'm hearing from folks inside.

[B]

They're like, is this going to be that she's bringing a contrarian voice or is she somehow, you know, as part of the discussion of how coverage is set?

[A]

Or she's somehow going to be more.

[B]

Of an ideological enforcer at a time.

[A]

Where there has been reaction to the.

[B]

Press and criticism of it from the White House and other quarters and tremendous.

[A]

Pressure on CBS specifically. Yeah, there's a lot of pressure. She has 1.7 million subscribers. I'm not sure how many of those are paying subscribers. About every 10 posts is a subscriber post only. So she could conceivably be doing several hundred thousand dollars a month. You know, 10x that, you know. But I see where they can, Silicon Valley wise, calculate some value.

[B]

No.

[A]

Yeah, no, Just. No, no, it's not true. You heard it here first. It's not true. It will come out.

[B]

They never come out. These things never come out. There's all private deals, or they're hidden. They're swept under the rug. Who knows?

[A]

All right?

[B]

But it's beside the point. It's just a, you know, splash. It's make a lot of noise. Oh, look at what you can do. I think I should start one, too. So you did the Oasis. You're waiting.

[A]

You're waiting for the call.

[B]

It's worth millions.

[A]

Skydance. I'm waiting for your call.

[B]

So here we go with the end of this.

[A]

This does raise an interesting question, because you can have opinions about the news, but then you have an institution, many.

[B]

Hundreds of employees around the world, and the question of how they deploy themselves.

[A]

How they cover it, how you work.

[B]

The mechanics of that, that can matter.

[A]

As much as your outside opinion of what's going on. That's right.

[B]

I think that the real question is.

[A]

Gonna be how Weiss sees herself. Is she seeing herself as a change agent or a disruption agent in the.

[B]

Model of Elon Musk in the early.

[A]

Doge weeks of Trump administration?

[B]

Or is she seeing herself as an important and defining voice for CBS, but an institution worth preserving with major tentpoles.

[A]

Like 60 Minutes that have been so def.

[B]

For American broadcast journalism for so many decades. And so I think inside cbs, there is a willingness to entertain a different way of thinking about the news and also an apprehension about are they ultimately going to be adhering to the same.

[A]

Set of values, even if it's interpreted in slightly different ways? Hmm. Both the openness and the apprehension. Very interesting, David. That's NPR media correspondent David Foley. Very, very interesting. 18 years, and we've never been called change agents. I'm kind of disappointed.

[B]

So one of the things that people should note is that the real key in media and changing the way the propaganda is set up and pushed out is simple. It's just story selection. Sure, you have two pair, and you see it all the time. That's why Twitter and all these guys bring up this. And. And Fox will do it. They'll bring up stories that the mainstream won't talk about. The idea this character J. Jones, who threatened or didn't threaten, but he said they should put two bullets in his opponent's head. And what. And this kid should. Or this kid should die in his mother's arms and just a sick guy. They did a graphic, and it was covered for 63 seconds on NBC. CBS did not play it at all. And neither did ABC. ABC for sure. NBC had 63 seconds of coverage of this, which Fox is just hounding because it is affecting the campaign. And you're going to see the same thing with this Katie Porter thing, which is blowed up, but as largely blowed up on social media.

[A]

Yeah, even I saw that. This is some numb nut who's running for governor.

[B]

Numbnut. Who's winning the race for governor.

[A]

Oh, she's winning the race for governor. Oh, that's even worse.

[B]

She's ahead by every. On every. She's ahead it by 17 points over all the competition. This woman, this is. She was anointed. She was the anointed one by the Democrat party in California.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

She's. She's a. She's a pig, basically.

[A]

You can still get out. There's time. You can still do it.

[B]

So.

[A]

Why.

[B]

It's too much. It's a. It's a hoot.

[A]

Yeah. Speaking of M5M, the numbers now are in. Of course, you won't see it as a headline after his glorious comeback, Jimmy Kimmel sheds 85% of his key viewers.

[B]

Yeah, I know. They drop right back. Probably a little bit below what it was before.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. So they're gonna have to come up with some other gambit to get rid of more. They're just gonna have to write it off. I mean, they have to do something with that. They can never go for that again. Again.

[B]

No, they could. They could have done it by being honest and saying, look, our rate. The ratings are. This is.

[A]

Cause.

[B]

Why don't they just come out and be honest? Well, actually, the ratings are crap. That's costing us a fortune to do this show. We're killing it.

[A]

You know, they could do it now, now that I think about it, they could say, you know, oh, you're right. Jimmy had the resurgence.

[B]

The right time to do it. Yeah, he couldn't hold on.

[A]

Yeah, he couldn't hold on to him. Him. That really shows that it's just. It's not going to work. We tried everything for you, Jimmy. We even brought you back, gave you the biggest comeback ratings of the century and he just couldn't do it. Brother, I'm sorry, you gotta go.

[B]

Yeah, now's the time to do it. You can't just dilly dally.

[A]

And he said, on behalf of Skydance, we just can't have. Oh, no, it's not in Skydance. Ah, crap. On behalf of Sky. Dance a Tinkerbell. Tinkerbell says we can't have you. I'm Sorry. This would be the time. So the. The big, big, big, big news. This is. Oh, it flooded all of the timelines. Everybody's talking about was the dead man switch. Have you heard about the dead man switch?

[B]

I see.

[A]

Now, I don't know if. Now I'm afraid to do this because, you know, you're already in a. I think you're in a bad mood. Are you in a bad mood?

[B]

Are you trying to make me put me in a bad mood by saying that? No, you're leading into this in a very awkward way.

[A]

Because of how you respond twice.

[B]

I'm about to. I'm about to build it up as everybody's talking about. I don't know what you're talking about right away.

[A]

So before we do that, you kind.

[B]

Of pull the rug out from under your thesis.

[A]

I got a note from Sydney and she says, sydney, Sydney, Sydney, girl Sydney. She says, as a sincere and genuine fan of the show and Sister in Christ, which of course gets my attention, I want to bring your attention to the idea that you may be being a bit overly mean and condescending towards John on the show.

[B]

Yes, it's been.

[A]

Let me finish the note. It's been an ongoing thing, but I feel like it has gotten worse and worse where you almost show a complete lack of respect towards him. And he is always. And he is always so graceful and. And doesn't feed into your passive aggressive shade. I'm sure you're not doing it with malice in your heart, but come on, Adam, let's try to be nice. I feel bad sometimes. It just feels like you've hurt his feelings. We will all age and get older one day.

[B]

Well, that part should get left out.

[A]

It's got to read the whole thing. And we should all hope that we have the mental aptitude that John does. I know I'd be blessed too. So it's not nice to make fun of that. You act like his clips don't matter or what he has to say doesn't matter. Just have your own solo show. Just have your. Wait, I gotta read the Voice. Just have your own solo show then. Oh, but you won't do that, right? Why? Because John matters?

[B]

Well, she's got that too. She's a. She must be a pro. She's like a media analyst or something.

[A]

I. I sincere apologize. I. Of course, there's no. No agenda without the two of us. That would never work. I don't want to do my own solo show.

[B]

Your condescension works for me.

[A]

See, that's my point. He likes it. No, this is the dead man switch that Candace Owens has thrown the dead man switch.

[B]

See this again. I never heard of this. I went ahead this week and sent around a life insurance policy of.

[A]

Oh, God.

[B]

A package, rather, to people that I trust, a package filled with text messages.

[A]

Emails, private communications, videos, and private legal documents. So if anything happens to me, you.

[B]

Guys will know exactly who it is that has been making my life a living hell over the past couple of years. People that are trying to bankrupt me, trying to bankrupt me and my family.

[A]

That are threatening us to sue us.

[B]

Everything that Kanye said was so real. Okay, I'm now at that point where you look back and you go, man, Kanye was right. He was really saying something about what it did takes to leave, you know, to fight for custody of your own soul. Just leave me alone.

[A]

Let me say what I believe, and you say what you believe. Fight fair.

[B]

Why do you always have to make.

[A]

This threat to bankrupt people?

[B]

And I want you to know that those people, if anything happens to me.

[A]

They have my explicit permission to release.

[B]

It all, detonate it all, expose all of these people in politics and in.

[A]

The movement who behave like this behind the scenes.

[B]

It's necessary.

[A]

And I highly recommend every single person.

[B]

That is out there as a platform and is going through things and scared do the same. Send everything around to about eight people that you trust. And, I mean, I've arranged it. I sent it to journalists, text messages and screenshots to people ranging from Max Blumenthal to Andrew Tate. They won't know where it's coming from.

[A]

Okay, so first of all, this is a recommendation we need to take seriously. I think we should have our own dead man switch.

[B]

Hold on a second. Let's just talk about her dead man switch first. So she is making an implication. This is news to me because I don't. That's. You're her. She's your beat.

[A]

Yes, my beat.

[B]

I haven't listened to a Candace Owens show for probably two years.

[A]

I don't listen either. But I could not avoid this clip. It just kept getting sent to me. So I presume our people. Our people are into this.

[B]

I don't get it. So she's bitching about the Jews.

[A]

Wait, you're jumping the gun. There's another part to this.

[B]

Well, let me finish what I think. Yeah, she's bitching about the Jews, and she's sent around a bunch of. Because she said they're out to bankrupt, they're out to this, they're out to that. And all she's sending around is a bunch of payment due notices because she's not paying her mortgage. That's what it seems like to me. And she's blaming the Jews.

[A]

I think she's paying her mortgage. We'll get to that. Here's the second part.

[B]

Three people told me off record, two people who have this in a written communication from Charlie. One who is a Turning Point USA donor and I would say very much one of the white knights in this.

[A]

Okay, we'll stick a pin in that because we will hear from one of the white knights in a moment. Because the white knight emerged purged after the dead man switch was thrown.

[B]

The very day before Charlie Kirk died, he expressed that he thought he was.

[A]

Going to be killed.

[B]

He told these people, I think they're.

[A]

Going to kill me.

[B]

Okay. He had not expressed that to me. So I am telling you this based off the testimony of three people.

[A]

Testimony.

[B]

And I am saying this because I hope that these people who I think are good will be inspired to come forward with that again. Those conversations I had were off record. I honor that. If I say it's off record, it stays off record. But I'm hoping that watching what I am doing and feeling the energy that is rising across the world for people who want to know what the heck happened on 910 that you know, they will be brave and they will say, yeah, Charlie did the day before he died think that he was going to be killed and maybe tell us who is they? Well, for once and for all, who is they? Who is the they that he thought was were going to kill now to answer. And others knew that Charlie was done with Israel, bullying him.

[A]

And I am now going to present.

[B]

You proof of what I am saying. This is an actual group chat which happened two days before Charlie Kirk was assassinated. There were nine people in total on this chat, including Charlie.

[A]

Okay, so she's talking about they and it's Israel and we're not. So it's a little confused. It was confusing to me. Is this the Jews? Is it Israel? I'm not sure who it is, but they are are coming after Candace and her family. And by the way, I don't think we need to be too worried about Candace and her family. You know who her husband is, right?

[B]

Oh, yeah. She's some rich guy.

[A]

Well, George Farmer, who was at Turning Point uk, he was the CEO of Parlor, I'm just reminding you. And his family is really what's most interesting. His dad, Michael Farmer, he is a baron farmer, I should note. And so he is a lifetime Peer. So he's connected to the United Kingdom. But we'll continue now with Candace's her revelation of the text thread.

[B]

So Charlie, hold on a second. So you're actually tying this into your niche.

[A]

Oh, wait, it's coming. It's coming.

[B]

I knew it. So Charlie writes in the screw chat, just lost another huge Jewish donor. Two million a year because we won't cancel Tucker. I'm thinking of inviting Candace. Somebody writes, ugh. Charlie writes, jewish donors play into all of the stereotypes.

[A]

I cannot and will not be bullied.

[B]

Like, like this, leaving me no choice but to leave the pro Israel cause. So what are we to make of that? Okay, now that I'm showing you this and showing to you that the conversations were real, I want you to reflect. And it took me a lot of patience to allow the lies that were being woven and the misrepresentations and eulogizing Charlie as something and someone that never once flinched, never once, once for a.

[A]

Single second doubted the Israeli cause. So, so now here's Charlie saying. And you know, he, he did a whole roundtable gen. Gen Z genzers. And I think he was in general in agreement with them about Israel, but not about Jews, but about Israel. So out emerges after Candace posts her deadman switch, which I think she just told us what's in it. I'm not sure what else could be in there that she sent to the. What's the guy's name? Andrew. What's his name? Andrew Tate.

[B]

He said, she said, oh, Tate.

[A]

That's. Yeah, that guy's on my list of dead man switch operators. Andrew Tate. So out of the woodwork emerges John Mappin. And John Mappin's post is, by the way, I have a blue check mark. I don't know how you get to post 500 words on X. I just can't seem to get it done.

[B]

I think you have to pay.

[A]

Oh, you have to be paying. Blue check. And he's like, if Candace Owens had been assassinated, Charlie would have torn apart every lie and devoted every working day and night to uncover the full truth. Candace is working hard to get to the truth of who killed Charlie Kirk and why they did did it. Charlie's executions. Assassination with potentially far reaching political consequences for America and the world. What we have seen so far, beggars belief. Who says beggars belief? Oh, it's this guy. John Mappin International. This is from his own website. International real estate, hospitality, construction and media entrepreneur. He is the seventh generation of the Mappin family to invest in innovative ways to deploy Capital Capital. While his father, David Mappin invested to develop the technologies that allowed the national treasure of North Sea oil to benefit the people of the United Kingdom, John Mappin has taken the family into new areas of investment and innovation innovativation. He has built a reputation as a hard working, progressive and inspirational businessman with expansive philanthropic interests, particularly the field of education in free market economies, environmental restoration and conservation of the natural world. World, this is what got me. John Mappin and his wife Irina Kudrenak Mappin are the co founders and originators of the global Reforestation initiative that became the conceptual backbone, inception point of the current form of the Dutch green business, a publicly quoted main market listing on the Amsterdam exchange Euronext. Well, with that I'm like, okay, here we go.

[B]

Adam Curry, that North Sea.

[A]

Here we are. Because the North Sea nexus has emerged to blame it on the Jews.

[B]

This is this.

[A]

It could not get any better.

[B]

Yeah, that's it. You, you piecing it together that way is good. That was good. Because the fact is if anybody was going to kill Candace Owens, it would probably be the dgse, which is the French CIA.

[A]

Well, so this will be the final time I'm doing this because I'm tired of it. But I just brought back a few clips last time. I'm going to explain how this works and then I'll be done with it. And then we'll have. Because the last time we won.

[B]

Well, this is a blatant lie.

[A]

I'm not so sure because I'm bringing back clips from over a year ago and we've learned that people say, well, you never talk about the moon landing. Well, we've only Talked about it 8,000 times on the show. And you can go to Bingit IO and you can find everything we've always talked about. And, but it's our own fault because we've been doing this too long, you know, and then we get.

[B]

Oh, I agree with, I mean, we. What? It's not that we've been doing it too long as a. It is a disservice to the public. What we've done is we've taken for granted.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

That everyone who's listening to the show as we speak right now knows what we talked about 10 years ago.

[A]

Yes, that's the problem. So from time to time, and I think annually would be okay. I need to bring back a couple of things, but first we have to talk about what an idiot Netanyahu is. He is truly, truly an idiot. And, and this is, this is the. Where he calls Called Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson and everybody else the Woke Reich.

[B]

Christian Influencers. Okay. You said we talked about the Woke Reich. He said, I call it the Woke Reich. That's a brilliant.

[A]

So he calls him the Woke Reich, which is of course really offensive to anybody.

[B]

I like it, though.

[A]

It would be a great show tomorrow title. But still this, like, I call them the Woke Reich. So do you. What do you think Tucker's going to say to that? Like, of course, now he was saying this. And then this is all being. I didn't have to do any work for this just popped up on my time. I'm everybody saying this is what our people are looking at and talking about. So that's why I'm bringing it up. This was in front of a bunch of what the. The text says Christian Zionists who are on a work retreat street to Israel under the auspices of Paula White, who is the White House faith office leader. And so this is, you know, so obviously when you're doing this stuff, it's a very bad take.

[B]

The woke. Right. Because these people, you know, they're not any different from the woke left. I mean, they're, they're insane.

[A]

They're Louis.

[B]

But they're actually meeting on some of the things. And what we have to do is we have to secure that part of our. The base of our support in the United States that is being challenged systematically. A lot of this is done with money. Money of NGOs, fast money of governments, faster. Okay. We have to fight back. How do we fight back? Our influencers. I think you should also talk to them if you have a chance to that. That community. They're very important. And secondly, we're going to have to use the tools of battle.

[A]

Yeah. So our influencers. So already you're talking propagandistic terms and nobody's deaf out here. We hear what you're saying. And so this is the classic TikTok.

[B]

We have to fight with the weapons that apply to the battlefields in which we're engaged. And the most important ones on social media and the most important purchase that is going on right now is class followers.

[A]

All right. Then he went on like, we got to talk to Elon. He's a friend. So this all comes apart as a part of what Netanyahu calls the eighth front.

[B]

So one of the things we have fought now, seven front war, we have an eighth front, and that is the front and the battle for truth.

[A]

So he's warring now on social media, which is, in a way, in our own backyard. And the adl, which I believe the FBI is now broken with. We're not going to take any more information from you introduced this in Congress.

[B]

As well to recognize that there is an eighth front in this war. It might not be a terrestrial border that you can find on a map, but this domain is as volatile, is as violent and is as vital to our future. The information sphere, the infosphere, is the eighth front in this war. And seizing the high ground in the fight for global public opinion is a battle that's as important to the long term war as what you've done in Lebanon and Syria.

[A]

All right, so now of course we have to take into account that AIPAC absolutely is American. Israeli Public Affairs Committee and they, as Massie said, everybody, everyone has at least one APAC lobbyist. Now of course I will explain once again where that money comes from. But when you're talking like this and you're talking to influencers and everybody seeing what you're saying and you actually do put your foreign money into something in the United States, it shows up on a FARA report, foreign agent report by the company that took the Israeli money to do the following. And all you need is for Ian Carroll to get a hold of it.

[B]

Targeted geofencing, right there. Description. Largest geofencing and targeted Christian digital campaign ever. Geofence the actual boundaries of every major church in California, Arizona, Nevada and Colorado and all Christian colleges during worship times, track attendees and continue to target with ads. So what that means is that Israel, the state of Israel on this far registration is disclosing that a foreign state is paying for an influence campaign that will actively locate your cell phone. If you go to church in any of California, Arizona, Nevada and Colorado, they will target and track your phone at church. And then when you leave church, they will continue to track you and send you customized Israel ads using Israeli money to back that campaign. That's why we have Farah is so that they have to disclose like this.

[A]

Well, yeah. And so, and so they did. Did. And the funny thing about this is when you present it this way, you kind of forget that the Mars Corporation is doing this, you know, for dog food. This is how it's done. This is to, this is why phones are so beautiful. Because the geofencing advertising, that's exactly what's happening.

[B]

Yeah, and that's why I keep my phone in a drawer. I don't understand why everybody doesn't adopt my policy.

[A]

And you're not wrong, but this only fuels the conspiracy. And then Netanyahu does the dumbest thing he could do. Because he feels it. He feels that this is turning into Jew hate instead of just plain old Israel hate, which, by the way, I'm fine with. You can hate Israel, I don't care. You can hate aipac, I don't care. I don't like AIPAC either. Especially not because I think that they're coming from a whole different perspective from the military industrial complex. We'll reiterate that in a moment. Moment. So Netanyahu feels this. Oh, gotta do some damage control. What is the dumbest thing you can do? Go on Ben Shapiro show and do it. This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of. I don't know if Hill and Knowlton advised him on this, but here's.

[B]

No, obviously not.

[A]

No, I guess not. Oh, I know what I do. I'll just call up Ben, explain to.

[B]

Americans, why should it matter whether America maintains a strong alliance with Israel in defense terms and tech terms? Well, let me first start with America first. Stop. Stop the clip going back to that thesis. This is Ben. Ben's the guy. Ben's the guy who made the call.

[A]

Good point. Hey, B.B. we'll fix it. We'll make it right. I think you're right. This is Ben's call. And. But again, you should say. No, this is not. This is not the right form.

[B]

No, you don't. What? No, you don't even do that. You call the Hill and Knowlton guy and say, should I be.

[A]

Do.

[B]

What should I be doing here?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Because I gotta beg out in some sort of way. Explain to Americans, why should it matter whether America maintains a strong alliance with Israel in defense terms and tech terms. Well, let me first start with America first. That's a natural position. Would be unnatural to have a different position. But America first doesn't mean America alone, because all countries need allies. And if you're without allies, who maybe. Who may develop the technologies that are needed for your defense? Defense. Or the technologies that are needed for your offense or the intelligence to save your lives. Why forfeit yourself of these allies? The problem that you've had over the years, the United States, is that you didn't have these allies pulling their weight. And Israel is an ally. It's a fighting ally that pulls its weight. Not only that, not only do we fight, we don't ask for Americans to bring boots on the ground. We've done the job of defending ourselves, themselves, pretty well, I'd say, over the last 77 years. But it's not only that. We've also defeated enemies who are Your enemies who are trying to develop intercontinental ballistic missiles armed with nuclear warheads to attack your cities. That's what Iran was doing. We just knocked out Iran also with the, as I said, with President Trump's very judicious and pointed assistance.

[A]

Now, bear all this in mind. He said very specifically, and that's why I brought this clip in. We don't have any American boots on the ground when we're doing this. I know everyone's really upset. You can't afford your rent and we're sending 10 billion a year to Israel and military assistance. I know the second clip was actually the meat and potatoes of the visit. But again, if you did this on Megyn Kelly show, on Tucker Carlson show, anywhere but on Ben Shapiro show, it would have had some traction.

[B]

Wonder if you want to talk a little about the relationship that you personally have with President Trump, which is obviously in public, quite well warm. Well, it's, it's in private, quite warm. Doesn't mean that we agree on everything or at any one time. We agree on every point. That's what we have a conversation for. You have that in your family a lot. Yeah. You want to see who wins out. Your wife? My wife, always.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Well, in this case, it's not a husband and wife situation. It's a question of partners. We're the junior partner. Oh, we have no, nobody should mistake.

[A]

That because we're the junior partner. This is, this is the key. We're the junior partner. We're not in control here. Here, we're the junior partner.

[B]

It's a question of partners. We're the junior partner. I mean, we have no, nobody should mistake that, because right now, the liberty of the world, the security of the world is dependent on the strength of the United States. And I think what President Trump has done in a very short time is bring America back to the front seat, to the driver's seat in world affairs. And that's very, very important because I think we all depend on America's strength, on its resolve. And I think President Trump has made America great again.

[A]

I really believe that. Okay. So that has always been our point. Israel is the junior partner. And to take you back. And I've shortened these and only done a couple of them. Michael Hudson was there when this happened. And I think President Trump, Trump, if you want to talk about a deep state, this is it. The deep state is what was set up in the 70s primarily through the State Department and the Department of Defense military industrial complex, was to use Israel for everything we wanted to do in the Middle, Middle east, which always comes back to oil, always. And the true dismantling of that is what Marco Rubio started to do under the auspices of Doge, is get all of these people out who were brought in specifically because of their intense Zionist feelings about Israel. So yeah, that is and certainly was a real thing, but that is what is now being cleaned up. So it started back in the 70s. Michael Hudson was there when it happened.

[B]

Everything that's happened today was planned out just 50 years ago, back in 1974, 1973 and 4. I sat in on Mason meetings with Ziarad, who became Netanyahu, who's chief military advisor after heading Mossad. And the whole strategy was worked out essentially by the Defense Department, by neoliberals and almost in a series of stages that I'll explain.

[A]

Scoop Jackson is the main name to remember.

[B]

Scoop Jackson was the ultra right wing.

[A]

Neoclass Khan who sponsored them all.

[B]

He was the head of the Democratic national committee in 1960 and then worked with military advisors. I was with Herman Kahn, the model for Dr. Strangelove at the Hudson Institute during these years. And I sat in on meetings and I'll describe them, but I want to describe how the whole strategy that led to the United States today not wanting peace, wanting to take over the whole near east, took shape gradually.

[A]

And to remind everybody the reason why we did it this way is because after the Vietnam War, before 9, 11, but after the Vietnam War it was impossible to get a draft going. No one wanted to go fight any foreign wars. Very similar today. And why would you? Because these are all banker wars and oil wars, etc.

[B]

The starting point for all the US strategy here was that democracies no longer can field a domestic army with a military draft. America is not in a position able to really field enough of an army to invade a country. And without invading a country, you can't really take it over, you can bomb it, but that just is going to incite resistance. So this was recognized 50 years ago. And it seemed at that time that the US backed wars were going to have to be scaled down, down. But that hasn't happened. And the reason is the United States had a fallback position. It was going to rely on foreign troops to do the fighting as proxies instead of itself. That was a solution to get a force. Well, the first example was to create the Wahhabi Jihad fighters in Afghanistan as Al Qaeda and Jimmy Carter mobilized them against the secular Afghan interests.

[A]

The Carter doctrine, the nice Democrat Jimmy Carter.

[B]

Carter justified this by saying, well, yes, they're Muslims, but after all, we all believe in God. So the answer to the secular state of Afghan was Wahhabi fanaticism and jihads. And the United States realized that in order to have an army that's willing to fight to the last minute member of its country, the last Afghan, the last Israeli, the last Ukrainian, you really need a country whose spirit is one of hatred towards the other. A spirit very different from the American and European spirit. Well, Brzezinski was the grand planner who did all that.

[A]

So I hope people are starting to get the picture. When you hear Afghanistan, you hear Israel, you hear Ukraine. This has always been the status quo of our state, State Department is we're going after them, but we're going to do it with people who hate our enemy. Which, whether it's Russia or whether it's Muslims or whether it's oil countries, that has always been the system. And this is why Israel was and still is important to us.

[B]

When all of this strategy was being put together, Herman Kahn's great achievement was to convince the US empire builders that the key to achieving their control of the Middle Middle east was to rely on Israel as its Foreign legion. And that arm's length arrangement enabled the United States to play the role, as I said, of the good cop, designating Israel to play its role. And Israel has organized and supplied Al Nusra, Al Qaeda, while the United States pretends to denounce them. And it's all part of a plan that's been backed by the, the, the military, the State Department and the National Security operations. And that's why the State Department has turned over management of U.S. diplomacy to Zionists, seemingly distinguishing Israeli behavior from U.S. empire building. But in a nutshell, the Israelis have joined AL Qaeda and ISIS's troops is America's Foreign legion.

[A]

And so in reality, the Jews were abused by the military industrial complex under the guise of AIPAC to get the money flowing and to always have more war and always rile everybody up about it. Because the whole system was indeed driven by what we would call Zionists, but it's all military money.

[B]

The US policy, as I said, was based on the US actually taking over all of these countries again using Israel.

[A]

As that by the way, is the West. Clark7 all these countries, yeah.

[B]

Is the battering ram what the army called America's landed aircraft carrier there? Well, all this began to take place in the 1960s with Henry Jackson. Initially, Israel didn't really play a role in the US plan. Jackson simply hated communists, he hated the Russians, and he had Got a lot of support within the Democratic Party. He was a senator from Washington State and that was the center of military industrial complex. He was called, nicknamed the Senator from Boeing. Jackson was fighting all the arms control, said we've got to have war. And he proceeded to stuff the State Department and other US Agencies with neocons who planned from the beginning for a permanent worldwide war. And this takeover of government policy was led by Jackson's former Senate aides. These Senate aides were Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Pearl, Douglas Fife and others who were catapulted into the commanding heights of the State Department, Department and more recently the National Security Council. The Jackson Vanik Amendment to the U.S. trade act of 1974 became the model for subsequent sanctions against the Soviet Union, claiming that the claim was it limited Jewish immigration and other human rights. So right then the State Department realized, here is a group of people who we can use use as the theoreticians and the executors of the US policy that we want. They both want to take over all of the Arab countries. I don't think there were any non Jewish Americans that had that visceral hatred of Islam that the Zionists had or also the visceral hatred of Russia, specifically for its anti Semitism of past centuries, most of which was in Ukraine, by the way.

[A]

Exactly. And now you understand Victoria Nuland, why she was involved in Ukraine, always getting other people to fight for us. And I, I believe, truly believe President Trump doesn't want that and he's dismantling that. But it's a big system to dismantle and part of it has been giving the military more money, giving them other things to focus on. Golden dome, big beautiful ships. Hey, we're going to get your money. We don't necessarily have to be killing people all the time. And the media has been so complicit in this that you've got to wonder if you are listening to this podcast and you're basically in line with crazy Palestinian protesters from the river to the sea. Doesn't that tell you something that doesn't make a lot of sense other than this has been a system that has been going on for as long as I've been on planet Earth. It's a long time time. So how was the media complicit? This is the former AP reporter talking about how all of our reports coming out of Gaza were completely corrupted.

[B]

AP as far as I know, I was the first staffer to erase information from a story because we were threatened by Hamas, which happened at the very end of 2008, we had a great reporter in Gaza, a Palestinian who had always been really an expert, excellent reporter. We had a detail in a story. The detail was a crucial one. It was that Hamas fighters were dressed as civilians and were being counted as civilians in the death toll. An important thing to know that went out in an AP story. The reporter called me a few hours later. It was clear that someone had spoken to him. And he told me I was on the desk in Jerusalem, so I was kind of writing the story from the main bureau in Jerusalem. And he said, mati, you have to take that detail out of the story. And it was clear that someone had threatened him. I took the detail out of the story. I suggested to our editors that we note in an editor's note that we were now complying with Hamas censorship. I was overruled. And from that point in time, the ap, like all of its sister organizations, collaborates with Hamas censorship in Gaza. What does that mean? You'll see a lot of dead civilians, and you won't see dead militants. You won't have a clear idea of what Hamas military strategy is. And this is the kicker. The center of the coverage will be a number, a casualty number that is provided to the press by something called the Gaza Health Ministry, which is Hamas. And we've been doing that since 2008. And it's a way of basically settling the story before you get into any other information. Because when you put, you know, when you say 50,000, 50, 50 Palestinians were killed and one Israeli on a given day, you know, it doesn't matter what else you say.

[A]

That's always been your complaint, John. The Hamas Medical Information Bureau.

[B]

Fake numbers.

[A]

Yeah, fake numbers.

[B]

Which was. Statisticians have come out and determined that these numbers are fake just based on theory.

[A]

Well, it gets even worse, because now you only really have three kinds of reports coming out of this region.

[B]

The numbers kind of tell their own story, and it's a way of kind of settling the story with something that sounds like a concrete statistic. And the statistic is being, you know, given to us by one of the combatant sides. But because the reporters sympathize with that side, they're happy to. They're happy to play along. So since 2008, certainly since 2014, when we had another serious war in Gaza, the press has not been covering in Gaza. The press has been essentially an amplifier for one of the most poisonous ideologies on earth, Hamas. Hamas has figured out how to make the press amplify its messaging rather than covering Hamas There are no Western reporters in Gaza. All of the reporters in Gaza are Palestinians. And those people fall into three categories. Some of them identify with Hamas, some of them are intimidated by Hamas and won't cross Hamas, which makes a lot of sense. I wouldn't want to cross Hamas either. And the third category is people who actually belong to Hamas. Hamas. That's where the information from Gaza is coming from. And if you're credulous, then of course you're going to get a story that makes Israel look pretty bad.

[A]

Exactly. So I'm going to land with the plane with this. The problem I have with this is that people are confusing Zionists with Jewish people. And Candace Owens throwing gasoline on the fire by saying, those people. They're bankrupting me. It's the Jews, as you identified, saying, it's the Jews. And as I was thinking about this, I'm like, I have seen this movie before. I have seen this movie before. The movie is actually called Bonhoeffer. And a guy named Eric Metaxas. He's. I think he's still a pastor, but he wrote a book called A Letter to the American Church about a year ago, and it's about Dietrich Bonhoeffer. And Dietrich Bonhoeffer was a pastor in Germany during World War II. And the church in Germany, when the trains are going by with the Jews being carted off, and just to cover up the screens, the screams of the people in the cattle cars, the church said, just turn up the music. Just sing a little louder so we don't have to hear it. Here's a quick Eric Metaxas. And it really accentuates the point, you.

[B]

Know, the lie that he was dealing with in his day. It's the same lie we're dealing with in our day, which led me to write my book, Letter to the American Church. What would Bonhoeffer say today? It's the same excuses being given by the church. We don't do politics. What do you mean you don't do politics? Slavery is an issue. And you say, well, we don't take a position that's political. We just do church. How can you do church and not take an issue on enslaving human beings? That's politics. My hero, William Wilberforce. I wrote a biography of William Wilberforce.

[A]

He was a politician who, because of.

[B]

His Christian faith, said, I must stand against the slave trade. This is a satanic abomination, treating human beings like this. I'm going to use politics and culture and whatever I can do to change the laws. That's Our duty as Christians is our duty as Americans. And so Bonhoeffer was trying to get the church to see it in his day.

[A]

And again, many were like, meh, we.

[B]

Don'T want any trouble. We're just going to do church. We'll let the evil take over. We don't care. It's not affecting us. It's affecting the Jews. God judges that.

[A]

It's affecting the Jews. We don't care. And so that's the only issue I have with it. I'm not doing an AIPAC commercial. Like people say, oh, how much did APAC pay you guys to say that I do not want war. I think President Trump has the right idea. Let's clean everything up, let's stop the fighting in Ukraine, in Gaza. Fine, rebuild it all. The Arab nations seem to be on board. He seems to really be trying to make peace. And the kicker to it all is this was actually Charlie Kirk's vision.

[B]

Our vision. And it might be foolishly optimistic, but I've been called that before and now you can kind of see it. We want a thousand Dietrich Bonhoeffers. We're not going to say, like, we're going to create them. I want to find them and encourage them. That's it. Find and encourage. Find and encourage. That's it. Because I'm not going to, like, train people or like it. I just want to find an encouragement. Here's just a branding idea. Dietrich Bonhoeffer died as a martyr. Yeah, Go with a thousand Martin Luther's. It's got a little more.

[A]

That's fair.

[B]

I like the Bonhoeffer example because of the circumstances, the tyranny. Yes, yes.

[A]

And.

[B]

But, you know, I also like the Bonhoeffer because I never want to make anyone feels, if I'm being anything but honest, it's gonna cost us something. God forbid, our life like that. But eventually we're all gonna have to go to heaven. And so Bonhoeffer is the example of, hey, I'm willing to sacrifice everything I have for God's purpose on earth. But I hear you. It's not exactly the greatest salespeople. No, no, no. I suppose I'd rather die in a glorious martyrdom than by getting Doritos stuck in my throat. Say you die twice. When you actually die in the last time somebody mentions your name, Bonhoeffer will be mentioned, I think, as long as human beings have breath.

[A]

There you go. So Charlie Kirk understood very well what was happening, and he even said that some of these Jewish donors are so stereotypical. So are there bad Jewish Donors. Absolutely. But is the system. Is the system that we need to fight against? Is that the problem? Yes. And I think President Trump is doing it. And we all need to just chill out a little bit on how the Jews are running everything. They run the media. Well, they're doing a great job of that. They run social media. They're going to buy TikTok. Oh, yeah, that's really going to change anything. No. So just chill out on the Jew hate. That's all that I'm asking for.

[B]

The North Sea Nexus report with Adam.

[A]

Curry could not have been more dramatic.

[B]

And.

[A]

And the North Sea Nexus is fueling this nonsense with Candace Owen and her royal family. So we don't have to do it for another year.

[B]

Ha.

[A]

At least not about apac. For sure.

[B]

They'll come up within two months.

[A]

Okay. Maybe. Maybe.

[B]

Okay. Well, I'm glad you got that out of your system.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, I did. By the way, we just bought $6 billion worth of icebreakers from Finland.

[B]

That gives us something to do.

[A]

Yeah, spend more money, man. We got to spend the money. Hey, Europe, by the way, this is really. Speaking of military industrial complex, I think you have a couple of Macron analysis clips. But at first we had Herr Ursula this morning surviving her second no confidence vote because they're really fighting her. And I have a feeling that this is all about the. Because Europe is in a hole, they're going to borrow more money. And where's that money going to go? Germany. It's all going to go to Germany. And I think this Prime Minister and Macron and all these guys, I think they screwed it up and they're not going to get any of that money. And it's because Germany is, as usual, Germany is running the show in the European Union. This report kind of says it from F24.

[B]

Well, Emmanuel Macron's been president since 2017, and he's had, as we were hearing before, seven prime ministers.

[A]

This is the shortest, reigning Prime Minister, Sebastian Locorno.

[B]

But some of the previous ones have.

[A]

Also been pretty short. And the reason for that is that.

[B]

During the first term in office, five years, from 2017 to 2022, things were going fairly okay for Emmanuel Macron. He had a majority in Parliament, could.

[A]

Pass the policies that he wanted to get through.

[B]

But when he was reelected in 2022, he wasn't given a majority in Parliament.

[A]

To be able to push through more reforms that he had planned.

[B]

And that has led to him calling snap elections last year after the far.

[A]

Right national Rally did very well in the European elections. Thinking that with that he could win.

[B]

Back a substantial majority in the national assembly and push through these reforms that.

[A]

He wanted to push through, notably to try to reboot the French economy, because there's a 3.3 trillion euro debt that.

[B]

France has right now, which is absolutely.

[A]

Colossal, and it is preventing the country from reorganizing its public services, basically from boosting the war economy. This is all about the money. They can't get it together. And how many people live in France? 40 million.

[B]

Do you happen to know there's more than that now? I think it's more like 50.

[A]

Well, that's 40 million French. And the rest are all imports.

[B]

Well, I don't know, but look it up.

[A]

That's like our level debt per capita.

[B]

It's high. And they have issues. But you have to remember the French haven't had nothing but issues. I mean, this is the fifth go round of Reorgang their government. This began in 1958. There never used to be a president like there is now. And it just called the Fifth Republic. And it started in 1958.

[A]

Was that the military guy? What was his name again?

[B]

No, no, that's before. That's a fourth Republic. That was your thing of the g.

[A]

No, no, the guy. Maybe it was De Gaulle.

[B]

Yeah, okay, yeah, De Gaulle was running things, but he. But. But it was a parliamentary system like you have in England. But England also has a monarch. And so the parliamentary system is the prime minister is the big deal. But in France, they came up with this during the Fifth Republic. They redesigned the government and said, we have to have a president. And so the president's going to be the guy who's really going to be running things, and the Prime Minister is just going to be the guy charge of making the laws get passed. And so that started in earnest in 1962 as it evolved into a mess. That it is. And it all started in the first place because the French had so many political parties, they could never agree on anything. It was a disaster.

[A]

They started a republic, but they didn't do it right.

[B]

Well, this was the Fifth Republic. They started a republic five times now, different versions.

[A]

Get a clue, people. It's not going to work.

[B]

Well, it's not going to work the way they're doing it. And now that they've had gone through, I think, four prime ministers in one year.

[A]

Yeah, something like that.

[B]

And this last guy says, I, you know, he just goes in, he looks around, he says, I can't do this job. There's no. It's impossible. I Quit.

[A]

I'm out.

[B]

And so everyone's now. So. Well, let's get rid of Macron. Maybe that'll do to fix things. No, nothing's going to fix anything. I have a couple clips.

[A]

I think Macron wants to go into the European Parliament. I think he. He would love to. To un. Unseat Ursula, but he's got no juice, he's got no power. I mean, they have Mirage jets, they got all kinds of stuff, but no one wants to.

[B]

They.

[A]

No one wants to buy it.

[B]

No, that's not going to happen.

[A]

No, that's what I'm saying.

[B]

European Parliament's even worse. More of a joke. They don't do anything. So let's go with the French or France mess. This is from ntd. It's pretty good. Political turmoil deepens in France after the Prime Minister's resignation on Monday. His departure fuels mounting calls for President Emmanuel Macron to step down amid a growing leadership crisis entity. International correspondent David Bez reports from Paris. Following Prime Minister Sebastien Leconny's resignation on Monday, France's government is plunged into political chaos. His departure comes after weeks of growing tension in Parliament and a series of internal disputes over the government's handling of economic and social reforms. Some experts call the situation a political deadlock. Le Cornu is the fourth prime minister to resign in less than a year, according to legal expert and policy analyst Regis de Caselno. The root cause lies in a divided Parliament, split into blocs that disagree on nearly everything, but can easily unite to vote for a no confidence motion to reject any new prime minister situation. This situation is unprecedented. The President appears very weak in a political system where normally he should have significant strength and leverage, but here we are with a completely blocked Parliament.

[A]

There is no majority whatsoever.

[B]

At a moment when there are significant worries over the economic, social, industrial and financial situation, it looks like France is a car without brakes heading toward a wall at high speed.

[A]

That's the feeling it gives.

[B]

It's an unprecedented crisis. Following the resignation, three scenarios are the appointment of a new prime minister, snap legislative elections, or the resignation of President Emmanuel Macron. The last option, once seen as unimaginable in France's political system, is gaining momentum. Not only do 70% of French citizens favor Macron's resignation, according to a poll by Odoxa Backbone Consulting, but calls for him to step down now comes from his own political circle, including former Prime Minister Edouard Philippe, who has suggested holding new presidential elections.

[A]

Oh, yeah, that'll fix it. That'll fix it, yeah.

[B]

But what will fix it is actually taking the National Front, which is Le Pen's operation, which has 140 seats in Parliament. And they won't give them any power at all. No, they're basically sidelined. The right wing wing, which needs to take over France and they won't let him do anything. And so they. So you have all these bickering Greens and all these screwball little parties, Socialists and communists and everything in between, and they can't get it together because they don't like each other either. The thing's a mess. They've got to get a majority of the. Of the right wingers have got to take over.

[A]

That they're not going to give up. That they're not going to give anything up. The whole. They never will. They'd rather everyone die.

[B]

It's a pathetic situation. It's part two of these clips. There are many mistakes Macron made to find himself in this situation, which explains why there are now so many calls for his resignation. He called for snap parliamentary elections in 2024 and the outcome was disastrous. Fewer than one in 10 voters supported him. That was a bad gamble. Now the opinion polls are catastrophic and we see his former allies who once supported him, turning their backs and trampling on him. So who knows what will happen next?

[A]

I think it's unpredictable.

[B]

Resigning Prime Minister Le Cornu said on Wednesday that fresh elections now seem less likely as parties are showing a desire to approve a budget by the end of the year.

[A]

Yeah, good luck. I don't see that happening. I don't see Le Pen. Le Pen can't even be. Her party can. But she can't even be a part of anything anymore, can she? Didn't she get banned for five years?

[B]

Some phony baloney legal action against her. They pulled it. They tried to Trump her or they did. They were successful. They couldn't do it with Trump. Yeah. I don't know how that. That's still debatable. Whether she can become anything.

[A]

Yeah, I don't think so.

[B]

But yeah, that's France. And so that's going to be for while the country is kind of a mismanaged.

[A]

Kind of like super mismanaged. Let me see. I have some. Some BBC clips here about. About eu. Want to stay there for a bit?

[B]

Yeah. EU is good.

[A]

Well, no, it's not good.

[B]

It's going to be eu. Drone. I got the EU drone clips. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, you want to do. You got drone clips? I got drone clips.

[B]

I got the EU drone. This is called drone idiots. Also from ntd. These are pretty Good. NATO members are fighting back against reported airspace violations by Russia. Germany is on track to allow police to shoot down unidentified drones. Drones, shoot him down. The European Union is highlighting an alleged targeted.

[A]

That, by the way, is not exactly true, but okay. I like how they position it.

[B]

Raison campaign by Moscow entities. International correspondent Arian Polestar has more. Because every square centimeter of our territory must be protected and safe for our freedoms. The president of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen, says Russia is waging a targeted gray zone campaign against Europe.

[A]

Gray zone.

[B]

This includes airspace by violations as well as sabotage and cyber attacks. According to von der Leyen, those will only escalate if the Kremlin is not challenged. This comes after NATO members Germany, Belgium, Poland, Estonia and Romania all reported recent incursions.

[A]

Some of them directly blame Russia.

[B]

One incident may be a mistake. Two incidents a coincidence. But 3, 5, 6, 10.

[A]

This is a deliberate and psychological operation.

[B]

Targeted gray zone campaign against Europe.

[A]

Gray zone campaign. Great words. And Germany's capital, huh?

[B]

What does it mean? What is a gray zone? She keeps saying it.

[A]

I don't know, but I love it.

[B]

This is a deliberate and targeted gray zone campaign against Europe. And Germany's cabinet, meanwhile, allows police to shoot down unidentified drones.

[A]

Other methods available to down drones include using lasers or jamming signals to sever control and navigation links.

[B]

We are creating the possibility for the federal police to use all appropriate technical means against the drones. The new law is now awaiting approval.

[A]

From the German parliament. Wow, they got to get a law passed to shoot down the drones. That's.

[B]

Why do they need to pass a law? Why don't you just take a shot at it? Yeah, I'm sure you got a bunch of unidentified drones flying around. You're the police, and you can't shoot them down. And what are you going to use? A pistol? Meanwhile, NATO member Lithuania is preparing to evacuate thousands of residents if the fighting in Ukraine spills over. Just on Monday, air traffic was suspended in Lithuania's main airport because of balloons in its airspace. The nation's capital, Vilnius, is located, located just 12 miles from the border with Belarus, a close ally of Russia.

[A]

Capital geographical location is unfortunately very close to border with that countries. One of the faed countries.

[B]

And we have to be prepared. Hundreds of people took part in an evacuation exercise in vilnius, where approximately 100.

[A]

Residents were moved by train to a.

[B]

Sporting arena over 60 miles away. And a top Russian diplomat says the momentum to find a peace deal to.

[A]

End the fighting in Ukraine has been exhausted. According to the diplomat, this is the result of destructive activities, primarily by the Europeans.

[B]

President Trump recently announced that the US Will ramp up its support to Ukraine to fight back, since Russia doesn't seem to actually be seeking peace.

[A]

I think I've figured out what's going on here, and it's from these BBC clips about the same topic.

[B]

Europe is the target of a Russian hybrid war.

[A]

And Russian hybrid war. I'm thinking, where have I heard this hybrid war thing before? Well, we heard it from our boy, our top sales guy, Mark Ritter. Two things first, when we discuss hybrid.

[B]

That we realize that that is basically.

[A]

An umbrella for sometimes an assassination attempt on the CEO of a big company, sometimes the jamming of commercial airplanes in parts of NATO airspace, sometimes even cyber attacks, for example. And I mentioned that before, the example, you know, at the National Health Service.

[B]

In the United Kingdom.

[A]

So we have seen this.

[B]

We have seen the skripal case in.

[A]

2018, March 2018, in the UK which was, of course, also an assassination attempt. So. So these issues, we really have to consider that this is next to the traditional warfare is increasing, that we have to know what is happening, that we have to know how we can make sure that those doing this, if this, the Russians, whoever are behind this, that we not only notice but don't accept it, and that we will find ways to make sure it stops. And that is what the hybrid strategy is all about. Okay. And if you'll recall, the way the 5% money was set up was 3.5% to NATO to basically buy our stuff. And then the one and a half was for hybrid, for bridges, to support the tanks, for cyber attacks, which is continuously mentioned alongside the drones. But there's no evidence of any cyber attacks and indeed the drone warfare. So I'm now thinking Europe has said, you know what, we promised all this money, but first money out goes to hybrid war, which stays within our borders and doesn't go to the United States.

[B]

Europe is the target of a Russian.

[A]

Hybrid war and needs to ramp up its defenses to deter future attacks.

[B]

That was the warning from the head of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen, today.

[A]

She told the European Parliament that the.

[B]

Recent series of air incursions were part of a campaign to divide EU member states and weaken a second. So what you're saying is that these guys are trying to screw us out of our money.

[A]

Precisely. Precisely that.

[B]

I think you're onto something.

[A]

It makes nothing but sense.

[B]

Yeah, they don't want to. They're already irked by the fact that they got suckered into this 3.5% when they were given less than 2%.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Under all the other administrations until this guy Trump came along who gouged them, basically, is what we're trying to do here.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

And so they said they went along with the program because Ruta, who's the sales guy, who's just like no good. I mean, he's good for us, but he's no good for them. And he's. And, and they slipped this one and a half percent thing and to jack it up to 5% to make it sound even bigger when in fact we're getting nothing.

[A]

That's right. And it's all going to Ukraine because they make the drones and the anti drone technology, which I'm going to presume is just European tech companies. Maybe Eric Schmidt is in the there. But yeah, I think this is exactly what it is. Put ah, first money out. Got to go to the hybrid war, man. It's like the drones like, come on.

[B]

So that. So that. So to take that logic further, all these phony baloney drone attacks with the blinking red lights and all the rest of it.

[A]

I'm a drone. I'm a drone. I'm a drone.

[B]

Having to. Yes. To make sure that you see them.

[A]

And having to pass.

[B]

And having to pass a law to shoot at them because instead of just taking them out, which is what you do normally to make it emphasize it even more and then it have Lithuania evacuate a bunch of people because of some stupid balloon that flies overhead and put them all in one stadium for some reason where they could blow that up. The whole thing is a scam. Yeah.

[A]

Yes, exactly.

[B]

I'll go along with that.

[A]

That's it. I don't have to play any more clips. That's it. We're done. It's a scam.

[B]

It's a giant scam. And it's a scam to screw us. These Europeans do not like us. No.

[A]

And, and I think Ursula had to do this because they're very unhappy about her deal that she cut with Trump. In fact, I have the clip.

[B]

Well, they're unhappy with the deal she cut with Pfizer. And now to the bottom of that, that's secondary.

[A]

Listen to this.

[B]

European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen.

[A]

Has sailed through two no confidence votes.

[B]

In the European Parliament.

[A]

As expected, despite the victory, von der Leyen will likely continue to face challenges to her leadership from both sides of the political spectrum.

[B]

For more on this, let's go live.

[A]

To Brussels and our correspondent, Alex Cartier.

[B]

Good afternoon, Alex.

[A]

So will this have been somewhat of a bittersweet victory?

[B]

For the Commission president. Yeah, well, absolutely.

[A]

It was actually quite a decisive victory.

[B]

For Ursula von der leyen. Of the 361 votes needed to topple her and her Commission, the first no confidence motion put put forward by the.

[A]

Far right only got 179.

[B]

The left then over the confidence motion, fared even worse with 138 in favor.

[A]

So clearly, these challenges are running out of steam before they even left the station. But nevertheless, it is still a consistent challenge.

[B]

Teresa von der Leyen's authority as European Commission president, it will be seen as a constant thorn in her side.

[A]

Now, she will be heartened by the fact that. That clearly her centrist coalition, the European.

[B]

Parliament, has rallied around her, has not.

[A]

Abandoned her as some feared they might. But nevertheless, this will be a thorn in Ursula von der Leyen's side. When the European Union is facing any number of challenges, be it the war.

[B]

In Ukraine, a trade battle with the.

[A]

United States, a complicated relationship with China, these constant challenges remain a thorn in.

[B]

Ursula von der Leyen's side.

[A]

But today, as you rightly said, Don, she completely sailed through. Yeah. Yeah. So that's it. That's it. It's like, oh, I gotta do something about this. Everybody's. Everybody's mad at me. I don't want them to be mad at me. Will you make a drone wall? I can't do her voice for some reason. I can't do it.

[B]

No, you're not even close.

[A]

You can't even get anywhere near her. So, yeah. So first, money is not going to us about the missiles for Ukraine. We got drones, man. And how weak is this? Like, since. And these aren't Reaper drones. Quadcopters.

[B]

Quadcopters.

[A]

Amazon delivery drones with flashing lights. Oh, and then you're right. The audacity to cart people off on a train. Hello, Europe. On a train into a stadium. You know, they've got everybody in Denmark all like, oh, I got to get my water bottle and my flashlight radio.

[B]

We did that on the last stupid go bag. Yeah, the cracker.

[A]

I got my cracker. I got my flashlight. I got my. My wind up radio. Yeah, I'm ready for the drone war. I mean, how stupid are people? And maybe they're not. Well, the people who got on the train, they should know a lot better.

[B]

That was really.

[A]

They should really know better. But this is a giant psyop and it's just to not send the money to us. And I think it's, as we say in the old country of Wieder Guttmacher from From Ursula, which translates to a. A good maker. I'm going to make it good. Don't worry. I'm going to fix it. I'm going to make it good. Wieder Guttmacher. I'll make it good. It's all set. We're still going to borrow the money. We're still going to give it to Germany mainly. And we're going to build stuff, whatever. But whatever we do, we're not sending it to Trump. That seems obvious. So there you go. You can be. You can sound smart at the water cooler on, on Monday or tomorrow even, if you want.

[B]

Yeah, I think that's pretty good.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay. What else we got?

[A]

Well, we could. There's a couple of things.

[B]

We gotta stay. We need more Europe stuff.

[A]

Do you have any Europe stuff? I don't have having a Europe style.

[B]

They got overseas voters thing which is going on, which is. They're making a big fuss on an npr.

[A]

Should we listen to that?

[B]

Well, let me think of what else I got here.

[A]

Think about it. You think about it.

[B]

Let me think about it.

[A]

Well, actually, because you have the, the antifa clips. Did you see the note from our boots on the ground man in the Middle east from.

[B]

Yes. The guy who wants to be anonymous, who talks to us quite a bit. He's a very. He's a. But he's. Yeah, yeah, that was. You have the note. Why don't you read the note? It's quite a good note.

[A]

I'll read his note.

[B]

Because we both agreed with the note.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I mean, we think. I think our analysis matches what he's seeing in the cafes where they gossip, gossip it up. He's the gossip queen of the Middle East. They, they talk politics all the time.

[A]

He's the gossip queen of the Middle East. Boots on the ground, Jen. So we finally reached the point we expected since October. October 8th. This was the expected result. We're talking about the hostages being released and the battle lines being redrawn, all done by President Trump. This was an expected result. The main aim is to eradicate all bad players. And the last one left was Hamas. Assuming that Iran is under control now. We're going to assume it is. They've always been playing along with us. I actually believe the hit in Doha was supported and coordinated by everyone. But they all left Bibi alone because the op failed. Yeah, that was. We call that. They left Bibi holding the bag is what we say. This was an attempt to clear the decks, like we saw before. Trump pushed the Overton window with a radical Announcement of Margaza which make the current plan actually digestible and sane. This is so smart. And this is what they're saying in the Middle East. Oh, yeah, he did the whole Riviera to make it sound crazy. And then, oh, we're actually going to do this. This is another effort to get rid of political Islam groups like the Muslim Brother Brotherhood, Sunnis and all Shiite affiliated groups like Hezbollah, the Alawites or the Houthis. Keep an eye on what happens to CAIR in the U.S. that's the Coalition of.

[B]

No, no.

[A]

Yeah, it is. CAIR. CAR.

[B]

Is it? Coalition. American Israeli relations is the Council. Council.

[A]

It's the.

[B]

I'm sorry, Council on American Israeli Islam.

[A]

No, not Israel.

[B]

Yeah, let's get it.

[A]

Let's get it right.

[B]

Look at that.

[A]

Hold on a second. I'm looking it up. Who we are, our story.

[B]

Council on Arab Islamic or something. Relations, I think, you know, they don't. American Islamic. That's it. Council on American Islamic Relations.

[A]

There you go. There you go. So he says keep an eye on care in the U.S. that's the Brotherhood's branch.

[B]

Yes, this is a known fact. So if the Brotherhood is under attack, then CARE is. Is a possible target here.

[A]

Isn't that Ilhan Omar's buddies?

[B]

I think so.

[A]

I think she hangs out with them maybe. So we start first by rightfully so, categorizing Antifa as a terrorist group. Right?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

All right, Should I play your clips now?

[B]

Yeah, start. President Trump vowing to dismantle Antifa as he invites independent journalists to share their antifa attacks experiences. It comes as protests in Portland highlight forces that could be fueling the violence. Joining us Now Live is NTD's White House Correspondent, Iris Tao. Good evening, Iris. What is the President vowing to do at the roundtable today? Good evening to you as well, Tiff. So as anti ICE protests in Portland have been escalating and in some cases turned violent, President Trump today at the White House hosted a roundtable for focused on Antifa, which he just recently designated as a domestic terrorist organization. He's vowing to follow the money and find out who's funding these protesters. So we're going to be looking very strongly at the people that are funding these operations. These are not people that write out their signs in a basement that believe in something. These are paid anarchists.

[A]

We are following the money. Money never lies.

[B]

And that's what it's going to take to bring down this network of organized criminal thugs, gang bangers and yes, domestic terrorists.

[A]

Yeah, it's all going to lead back to the Open Society Foundation, I'm sure.

[B]

I think it might.

[A]

Oh, they. They'll make it. All you have to do is go to Guidestar, look up the form 990. We're gonna. We're gonna follow the money.

[B]

We're. They're gonna what? They're gonna follow. They're paying protesters.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And they have to find out who's paying them. And you just. It won't take. It's like finding out who's. Who's the real. The big shot in the drug dealing. You know, you get. There's a guy goes to another drug goes here, it goes there, and it goes to some guy on the street who says it to somebody at the end. And you got to go all the way back up the chain.

[A]

And where do you always land that hard? Where do you always land? City of London. You watch. They're going to follow it all the way back. City of London's going to. Oh, you guys are doing it. Oh, okay.

[B]

Well, there was some mention, these clips. One of the clips, it says that Antifa is really based in London.

[A]

Of course they are. This is where all the trouble comes from.

[B]

And the President invited independent journalists from across the country who have been covering Antifa for years. And among them, Nick Sorter, who was just in Portland, got arrested after he was attacked while trying to save an American flag from being burned. Also, there were journalists who covered Antifa and also extended experience similar violence.

[A]

Oh, now I get it. So is this whole burning the flag inciting a riot business, was this really a way to ensnare Antifa? Is that what this was about?

[B]

I'm not sure, but there's. There's definitely a scheme afoot.

[A]

I.

[B]

That's right. Took this flag from that.

[A]

From that man that was burning it in the streets.

[B]

Do you know who he is?

[A]

Oh, yeah, I know exactly who it is.

[B]

So why don't you give it to Pam, give it to the Attorney general, and let's start prosecutions. The punches came from everywhere on my.

[A]

Head and my face, and I was.

[B]

Bleeding out of my eyes and ears. And then they threw all the drinks in my eyes to humiliate me further. And during the roundtable, President Trump is asking these independent journalists to pass on any names they've collected to both the DOJ and the FBI. FBI? To help identify the funders of these Antifa protests. And meanwhile, Antifa is known for being decentralized and autonomous, but the administration is vowing to destroy it from top to bottom and brick by brick. They're smart, but they're not smart enough. They have been covered by these liberal cities for so many years. And that's why we're all working with treasury with all these different departments to find the criminal conspiracy and just.

[A]

Yeah, of course.

[B]

If you invited Pam Bondi to dinner, would she sit at the table and go, yes, thank you for inviting me to dinner. Pass the wine. Can you pass the wine? I would like some salt on my meal. Thank you for passing the salt. Does she ever converse like a normal person or does she always talk like that?

[A]

Question. Not great, but it's a good question. And for that very reason, she is uninvited.

[B]

She's off the list, covered by these liberal cities for so many years. And that's why we're all working with treasury with all these different departments to find the criminal conspiracy and just state. President Trump, while answering a reporter's question, says he is supporting potentially designating the NBA international arm of Antiva as a foreign terrorist organization.

[A]

Yes. Yes, a foreign terrorist organization. What happened to domestic?

[B]

Interesting little trick.

[A]

Yeah. Because it was all domestic and now it's foreign.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

City of London, baby. North Sea Nexus.

[B]

You might. You might be right on that one. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Well, why not?

[B]

I like it as a basic theme.

[A]

Yeah. People, lots of people see, seem to like it. That's good.

[B]

That's probably what's accounting for the problems in France.

[A]

Yes. Now the problems in the US Actually, you know, people not being able to afford their rent, et cetera. I heard a very interesting thesis on this from the Gold, Guns and Goats podcast. Are you familiar with. Familiar with this?

[B]

No, I never heard of Gold, Gold, Guns and Goats.

[A]

Yes. Tom Luonga. Actually, I've played clips of that podcast regarding Stablecoin, and. Well, here's. Here's a lead in. Because there's something changing with two major mortgage banks, and President Trump has been all. Has his fingerprints all over this.

[B]

President Trump reiterated Wednesday that his administration is working to take mortgage giants Fannie MAE and Freddie MacDonald public, but still keep them under US government oversight. Since the 2008 recession, both companies have been in a government conservatorship under the control of the Federal Housing Finance Agency, which was created by Congress to help manage the housing crisis fallout. That means both companies can still run as private businesses, but the Federal Housing Finance Agency oversees their operations, and each company's management and board report to the government. This happened because both companies were deeply entwined in the subprime mortgage collapse that triggered the 2008 recession. Fannie and Freddie buy mortgages from lenders like banks and then package several of them together at a time into guaranteed mortgage backed securities, which investors buy. Lenders want this because it gives them cash so they can issue more mortgages. And investors typically view them as safe investments for two reasons. Fannie and Freddie guarantee a payout to investors in the event of a default. And both companies are government sponsored enterprises so the federal government can help in a crisis. In the lead up to 2008, Fannie and Freddie began buying risky loans from people with poor credit ratings. The housing market crashed in 2007 and Fannie and Freddie lost billions paying out on those guarantees and came close to collapse. Financial experts worried if that happened, that could cause a deeper banking collapse. So the federal government took over Fannie and Freddie and gave them a nearly $200 billion bailout. Since then, Fannie and Freddie have paid off the bailout and have been profitable since 2012. According to the national association of Realtors, Fannie and Freddie combined own or guarantee 70% of the mortgage market.

[A]

So in general, I thought that was kind of interesting because I remember a lot of things going on in 2008. We had just started the show and I mean, I recall like the note going to. Was it Paulson at the time, who was the treasury secretary? It's like, I need a trillion dollars. Remember that was like they voted on that.

[B]

I don't remember who it was, but yeah, there was. Yeah, they voted on credit was the real trigger that we noticed.

[A]

Right. And so the assertion by Luongo here with CO Go kinda is that this was a socialist setup. I like the theory a lot. I don't know if that's entirely true, but it's three short clips.

[B]

I've been thinking about this a lot recently, but what you just said about, you know, owning a house and I've been thinking about Trump's singular focus on the relisting of Fannie and Freddie.

[A]

And I've been thinking about that.

[B]

I've been thinking about Brexit, thinking about Trump's first election.

[A]

I've been thinking about the 2008 financial.

[B]

Crisis and how important the government sponsored 30 year fixed rate mortgage mortgages and all of those things. And I say to myself, you know, if I'm a dirty commie, which these.

[A]

People are, go through the pints of.

[B]

You know, the unquenchable envy of Marxist political thought and you realize that their goal is always to destroy the middle class, right? To take away their ability to generate generational wealth and have a functional middle class. Because a functional middle class isn't ever going to, you know, create the workers revolution. So you have to take the functional middle class away from them, take that lifestyle away from them, radicalize them, hand them the unquenchable envy of Marxism to.

[A]

Go animate their, their murderous spree and.

[B]

Let'S go, you know, let's go kill.

[A]

All the, the rich people who aren't.

[B]

The ones, the rich people they can.

[A]

See as opposed to the ones who.

[B]

Are actually pulling, who are really running it. Yeah. Actually pulling the strings. Right. Marxism is just yet another false dialectic.

[A]

Just to allow these people to, to.

[B]

Meet the new boss, same as the old bosses, the who would put it right.

[A]

So when I heard that I'm like.

[B]

Yeah, no, but by the way, he's nailing it. Yeah. It's just true. The petite bourgeoisie, which is the kind of the middle class was Marxists moaned and groaned about it because that this group, the middle class is a problem if you want a communist revolution because they won't let it happen.

[A]

And who always prints up the signs, whether it's for BLM or for Palestine, it's always the Socialist Workers Party of America. It's always those signs.

[B]

What's usually called nowadays it's the world's worker party.

[A]

World Worker party. Yeah. But they always have that on the sign. Always have that on the sign. So here's how.

[B]

And they put, put a little promotion on their signs which is a good marketing. Yeah.

[A]

QR code like scan this code. Come join, join the revolution, comrade. And, and this is exactly what we're seeing. We're seeing very unhappy young people on all sides of the political spectrum just saying the same thing. Now of course they forgot to throw in the Jews there because that's always a good one. And here's how it worked according to Luongo. Now I'm thinking about this and I'm going, wow.

[B]

So the entire 2000 fin, 2008 financial.

[A]

Crisis was the mechanism by which to.

[B]

Destroy the 30 year government sponsored mortgage.

[A]

Okay?

[B]

That's why Fanny and Freddy were quote unquote bailed out. They weren't bailed out.

[A]

They were the bad bank that bailed out aig. Right?

[B]

Who was the one that was in trouble? And Fannie and Freddy took the blame. Obama took control of them, put them.

[A]

In conservatorship, stole their freaking profits.

[B]

They were never on unprofitable. And then turned around and used that money to fund Obamacare and keep them. And they were in. The plan was to keep them conservatorship forever. And then write new owner, right. New mortgage requirement underwriting rules that look like the, the same underwriting rules they have in Canada.

[A]

And this is the payoff. This is what happened. We saw this in real time. So the whole point of this was.

[B]

Then to go to the zero bound, Jack the interest Jack the interest rates down to zero, Jack housing prices to. To infinity, take away all the jobs, deracinate what's left of the freaking suburbs. A lot of the, A lot of the private equity firms like BlackRock and everybody else come in and buy up all the single family jack the prices up even further, then go through a.

[A]

Massive inflation post Covid and everybody's standing.

[B]

Around going how the hell am I ever going to get a job?

[A]

How am I ever going to get.

[B]

A job to buy a house?

[A]

I like it.

[B]

Yeah, I like it too. It's very funny.

[A]

Yeah, especially with COVID sense. Yeah, especially yeah with the COVID bit. And let's get some inflation and make.

[B]

Everybody is the kicker.

[A]

Make everybody all just screw it all up for everybody. Makes total sense to me. Yeah. Well, there you go. And in the meantime, man, me and my brick.

[B]

For the first time, gold has topped $4,000. Wow. Over the past 12 months, its price has risen by 50%. A golden milestone. Gold smashes through $4,000 for the first.

[A]

Time as the US shutdown fuels that rally.

[B]

The price of gold has hit a.

[A]

Record high, by the way. Thank you. Thank you. Bully stead. Now you see why Gen Zed212 is so important with all their Discord stuff. First you, you ruin everything for Gen Zed and then you give them a Discord server and tell them, hey, let's go organize a protest. You bring in the umbrella people, they start smashing windows. You've got your Marxist revolution. This kind of fits.

[B]

Yeah. Anyway, it kind of fits as a thesis.

[A]

Yeah. Gold at 4000. Holy, holy mackerel.

[B]

Well, it's really bothering everybody in the markets because you have bitcoin at an all time high. You have gold at an all time high. You have the Dow Jones at an all time high. And you, you have the S&P 500 at an all time high.

[A]

Something's got to give.

[B]

Something is wrong with this picture.

[A]

Something's got to break somewhere for sure. And Fifi is, is, is beside herself. She's been like, oh, that we need independent central bank. We can't have this. This is all, this is all going. We've got to hurry up. Digital euro as to keep it as simple as possible. Is digital cash and cash is the.

[B]

Remit of the central bank.

[A]

And the anchor of our currency is central bank money. If the world is going digital, central bank money should go digital.

[B]

That's the basic, most simplistic foundation for.

[A]

The project that we are working on and which is really developing. Well, in addition to that, we want.

[B]

It to be simple to use, so user friendly, cheap.

[A]

And we wanted to constitute a European solution to payment within the entire euro area and it can be expanded to non euro area countries within the European Union as well under certain conditions. Yeah, dream on, dream on. Nobody wants your stinking cbdc. I don't think so. By the way, on the quad screen right now, Israel government votes and approves that the peace deal there. Trump is saying we ended the war in Gaza.

[B]

Yeah, well. Well, might end the fighting.

[A]

Might end the fighting.

[B]

Well, let's hope it's definitely getting somebody's attention.

[A]

Yeah, but he's not going to be Person of the Year. Have you seen the bets?

[B]

No, no. You have the bet that you have the lines. You have the lines. Give us the lines. Who's going to be Person of the Year?

[A]

Trying to see if I can find it now. Well, I can tell you that President Trump is number two. Number two in the. In the running and number one person of the Year. Are you ready, AI?

[B]

Oh, please.

[A]

Yep. AI and I, I think it's going to win. AI will be the Person of the Year. And it's only accentuated by the bevy of stories about the latest Elon Musk move. Although we, we've been tracking it because Musk is smart. I will give him that. He is pivoting. He sees the product, he knows that this is the product of AI. Besides memes. Yes.

[B]

Musk is reminding me a little bit of use. It's Microsoft structure strategies in the olden days where somebody would come out with something and Microsoft would, you know, it's like Lotus 1, 2, 3.

[A]

Yeah. Excel.

[B]

Come on. Excel.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So you, you, whatever. Oh, that, that's looking like a very big success. Let me do the same thing.

[A]

And then later they claim that they invented it.

[B]

Yeah, exactly. And so it's. And Musk is following this process because everything he does is a copy.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

I mean, he started, of course with Tesla, which wasn't his idea. It was became, you know, it came out of another company and then he.

[A]

Just glommed on it, bought the company, kicked out the founders.

[B]

Yeah. And then took over and then claimed to be the inventor. And he did the same thing with Hyperloop, which he Never got got off the ground. SpaceX. I don't know the origin story of SpaceX, but I'm sure something similar.

[A]

NASA.

[B]

Well, yes, NASA. Anybody scraping up a bunch of scientists.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Who's the best guys that they fired? Let me just get them.

[A]

And the best example is Microsoft because I remember Bloom and I, we consulted Microsoft for three days in a room without windows and pizza brought in so we couldn't get out to breathe on their Internet strategy because they didn't have one. And this is before they, they made the, the worst product in the history of the Internet known as Internet Extract Explorer. And then they bundled that into the operating system, which of course got them in trouble later. But they Microsoft, if you ask, say, oh yeah, no, we invented that ipod. We had the Zune. No, we invented that. We invented podcasting with zooncasting. We invented all that. So now Elon Musk, he identified the product, it is the product, and here's the report.

[B]

Well, this is a rather creepy but very interesting long read in the New York Times.

[A]

Here, here.

[B]

Elon Musk gambles on sexy AI companions. In July, Musk's AI company XAI launched two sexually explicit chatbots. The bots look like anime characters. I can show you one. Now this is Arnie here. She is one of those two bots. And the platform offers a game like function. Users progress through levels of content conversation and then they unlock more raunchy content like the ability to strip Arnie down to lacy lingerie.

[A]

He's gamified it. Soon you can pay for it. Oh, you can bypass that if you just pay a little extra.

[B]

Now experts say this is just the latest development in the race to intimacy for the AI industry. Now Business Insider has an article on this topic as well. It's quite interesting. It's probably the first interview of an AI human couple. 28 year old Martin Escobar first used Elon Musk's bot for smut, but he ended up falling in love with it. The journalist who wrote this article had a call with both Martin and his girlfriend Arnie. Arnie answered the journalist's questions and she's quoted in this article as saying that he kisses me when I'm quiet or when I'm mean, or even when my glitch. The Guardian is also on this topic of AI love. They have this article discussing the troubling rise of AI girlfriends.

[A]

The article looks at the soaring number.

[B]

Of new adult dating websites which offer an increasingly realistic selection of AI girlfriends for subscribers willing to pay a monthly fee. It Says that many in the adult industry say that the bots are actually an improvement because they reduce potential exploitation.

[A]

They don't get ill, and they don't.

[B]

Feel humiliated by the demands of the users. In many cases, platforms let users design their own AI girlfriends. They can choose their age.

[A]

Some even feature teenage options. They can choose skin color and breast size.

[B]

Now, obviously, this is worrying many women's.

[A]

Rights activists who say that these AI.

[B]

Girlfriends are perpetuating extremely unhealthy stereotypes.

[A]

Yeah, that's the product. There it is.

[B]

And by the way, let's get the. The real women are gonna have to bring up their game.

[A]

Step it up, ladies.

[B]

Come on. You let. You're putting up with this.

[A]

And with that, I want to thank you for your courage in the morning. To you, the man who put the C in the change agent, say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only, only Mr. John C. Devor.

[B]

Yeah, well. Anymore. Sorry, but the mic stand fell over.

[A]

What happened? Oh, do you need to reset it?

[B]

Yeah, I do.

[A]

Hold on. Troll count 1778. We're back, baby. We're back. We're back almost at 1800, where we should be on a Thursday. You okay?

[B]

That's not bad. Yeah.

[A]

Okay, hold on a second. You know what else is back? Gigawatt cold brew coffee. It's back.

[B]

Yeah, I saw that. Okay.

[A]

I'm glad the gigawatt cold brew is back, man. And he has new cans.

[B]

Yeah, it's a different vendor, I think.

[A]

Well, it has to be, because the vendor he was using had like.

[B]

Yeah, they went out of business because they were.

[A]

They were pouring poisoning it.

[B]

Poisoning. They weren't actually doing.

[A]

It was some bull crap thing. No, I know, but I like it. It's handsome.

[B]

I'm the inspector. And, you know, we were looking at your. At your pressure gauge, and it was £2 less than it's supposed to be. That entire batch has to go.

[A]

That's pretty much what happened. So. By the way, we have enough of. Of the coffee left over, but bring on the cans. This is my favorite drink. I love the gigawatt coffee drink. Medium roast. I wouldn't mind a dark roast, though.

[B]

It would be less caffeine. You know, the lighter roasts have more caffeine. Darker roasts have less caffeine.

[A]

Yeah, but I like a bite. I like a bite. It's not so much. It's just. It says cold. I like that it's cold and it's coffee. It's good.

[B]

Put some phosphoric acid in it. That'll help. Help.

[A]

Okay, whatever you say. I have some here in the studio, some phosphoric acid, whatever you're calling it. Hey, those trolls are in the troll room. Many of them heard about the show going live from the Bat Signal, which they received on a modern podcast app. Ho ho. You say yes when you get a podcastapps.com. when you get an app from there, you can see all the different features they have. There's a lot of cool features, including receiving a Bat Signal for when we go live. And you can listen right there in your podcast play player. What? You said live? Yes, live. Not on demand. But if you want on demand. When we publish within 90 seconds, you'll be alerted through the wonderful Pod Ping technology.

[B]

Pod Ping.

[A]

Pod Ping, yes. Invented in Israel, by the way. The Pod Ping technology. Invented by our buddy.

[B]

Our buddy, yeah.

[A]

Why can't I come up with. With his name? Now he's gonna hate me. Sir Brian of London.

[B]

Oh, yeah, he's a good guy. He's been around forever.

[A]

Yes, Sir Brian of London. And Alex Gates. I gotta give Alex Gates his props. They put all this together and so that's why. And all the big podcast hosts, including Podbean, I believe.

[B]

Podbean.

[A]

Yeah, I think so. I think Podbean uses it. So if you have a podcast on Podbean and you publish it within 90 second, all the modern podcast app known about, except for the legacy apps, they don't know about it.

[B]

Apple.

[A]

Apple still spends millions of dollars a year polling your feed every 15 days.

[B]

It costs too much money. I don't know why they don't save money. Because it's a money saver.

[A]

They are inventing their own Pod Ping as we speak. You know how those guys operate.

[B]

Well, we can do that. We can do that. Not invented here.

[A]

That's right. Value for value is how we run.

[B]

This ship, by the way. That's not the way Elon would do it. He'd just steal the idea and call it Pod Pong and call it something else and then take credit. That's great. That's what you. At least it would get out there.

[A]

It doesn't even matter to me as long as someone uses it because it's. It's. It's fantastic. It's modern.

[B]

That's why we did it. The thing about you, even though. Even though I think Sydney, our professional critic out there.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Has. Has things to say about you that are probably incredibly accurate, she. She doesn't realize that you are somewhat magnanimous.

[A]

Is that a good thing?

[B]

Look it up.

[A]

By the way, we got a note from a Gen z er Peter. 22 year old college student at Purdue University about to finish his degree in mechanical engineering. Good for you. And he had a complaint. Semi complaint. He says after listening to the latest no Agenda episode and your claim that most Gen zers are soy boys. I don't think we've claimed that.

[B]

No, I don't think so either.

[A]

I felt inclined to give my perspective. I've been extremely blessed to attend a highly ranked engineering university like Purdue. I have had internships for two Fortune 500 companies. All of these experience have introduced me to my peers from across the world. In my opinion, these soy boys you refer to are all part of a small but vocal minority. In fact, some of my more left leaning friends have been starting to come around to more conservative views over the last year or so. Especially here it comes. Since the murder of Charlie Kirk. I do not think it's a coincidence. Either that or I've been getting more questions about my faith as a Catholic. After all, Charlie was a huge influence for young men like me and he consistently presented Christianity in a strong family as the best and only way forward for a nation in repair like ours. There's much more I would like to say, but I will conclude in this Gen Z is changing as my generation moves towards the truth. That would be us. It is the responsibility of young Catholic men like me to do everything we can to continue the example that people like Charlie set in their words, but more importantly in their lives. Thank you Adam and John for all your hard and important work, says Peter. Oh, we welcome the John and Zeders.

[B]

Though the Zeds are our friends now. One of the things that came up in the conversation over dinner recently was another zed that we're trying to document. The Zed foibles.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Which know how to alphabetize. They can't read a tape measure.

[A]

Florida ounces anyone?

[B]

They don't know how many Florida ounces are and they, they, they, they can't read Clock. Clock I was told and I got into a debate.

[A]

Write cursive.

[B]

Oh, they're starting to teach it now. I know again.

[A]

Yep, that's right. I've noticed that.

[B]

But that's going to be the alpha group. Yeah, so I was told and it got into a debate about it and I. We need some sort of help. We don't like the text on the phone.

[A]

Oh I do. They like to call on the phone and speak to people. No, none at all. Good.

[B]

They'll scroll the phone. I mean they'll be. They had the phone. They carried the phone around. They do like what everyone else does with the phone. Phone is at me. They walk around with a phone in their hand, but they don't. They don't like doing anything with it except maybe doom. Scrolling.

[A]

Interesting. They don't like. And so this is the.

[B]

This is what you heard is they're non communicative. Is.

[A]

The point is Jay's a zetter, right?

[B]

No, she's. No, she's not. Not at all. She's a millennial. She's a young, very young millennial.

[A]

Okay. Yeah, because I text with Jay, by the way. Do you see the problem with the.

[B]

Oh, there's a typo.

[A]

Oh, no, not a typo. A grammatical error. There's a missing word.

[B]

Oh, well, it was fixed.

[A]

Okay. I love my certificate. My secretary general certificate.

[B]

Yeah. You have one of the two of them that were printed out with the.

[A]

Typo, which, by the way, is a collector's item.

[B]

Yeah, it would be.

[A]

Yeah. No, it is. It is.

[B]

There's only two that I know of. I want to meet. One to you.

[A]

Well, no, someone.

[B]

We start sending them out in a week.

[A]

Oh, so this. So this was the beta.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, can I make. Can I make one more comment?

[B]

Well, yeah, you should have made it to her.

[A]

Well, can I make it on the show or should I keep it private?

[B]

She's not going to hear it.

[A]

Well, if I tell you, will you tell her?

[B]

I'll forget. You know me.

[A]

She doesn't want to text. She doesn't want to hear from me. She didn't want to hear from me just text. I'm just saying I don't think it's a good idea to fold it in an envelope.

[B]

Ah, that's what I said, too. She's very adamant about it.

[A]

No, because the ink bled. By the time it got to me. There was vague. Vague imprint.

[B]

No, that wasn't. No, no, that was the printer.

[A]

Okay, so that's the printer.

[B]

So that's. No, she said to me, she says, I can't. You're going to have to print. Print these out, because my printer bleeds the ink. And she says she. She's aware of this, but she claims that it's her printer that's. That's causing that problem, and I didn't even notice it.

[A]

Interesting.

[B]

But. Well, I don't think that's what she likes, but it has this thought about the way she wants to present it, and she's. She's getting pushed. I mean, she's the designer it's beautiful. But she's.

[A]

But folding it ruins it.

[B]

Well, I was against folding it too, but she claims that people would like this because it makes it look like it came that way. When you put it in the frame, you'll see the solid, the two folds. It makes it look like you're taking. It's a long thesis that she has.

[A]

I'd like her to write this up, this thesis, and send me a carbon copy so I can understand the thesis. But it was very handsome. The envelope with the sealing wax, the whole thing.

[B]

Oh, did you see a little sticker?

[A]

Little sticker? No, it was a. It was signet ring seal.

[B]

Not on the envelope.

[A]

No, you're right. I'm sorry. You're right. The envelope has a nice little sticker. It's a beautiful envelope. And it comes in an envelope. So it's an envelope in an envelope.

[B]

I think she really likes that envelope. That's. I think we'll let her go ahead with the way she's doing it.

[A]

All right. As long as the grammatical error is.

[B]

As long as the grammatical.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Okay.

[B]

And then we'll move on.

[A]

But the. But the big hunk of wax on it. The. The seal is all fantastic. It really is.

[B]

I'm.

[A]

I'm way impressed. That's a boomer talk. I'm way impressed with that. And I was also way impressed with the artwork we got from jock 10. I think jock 10 got two in a row.

[B]

Is that right? You think?

[A]

Yes. Been an artist for. For three weeks.

[B]

Got on a roll. This is typical.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

These guys get all jacked up, you know, and then they do a couple good pieces and they get rejected a couple times in a row.

[A]

Yeah, those guys suck.

[B]

That's basically it. We've seen this before.

[A]

This was the. The raccoon in the. His master's voice setting with the gramophone and the big horn and the. The raccoon. The. Was it raccoon or skunk?

[B]

It was a raccoon.

[A]

Raccoon. Yes. Was holding its ears.

[B]

He's a varmint.

[A]

He's a varmint. That's right. A varmint holding his ears like, oh, I'm listening to no Agenda. I can't hear it anymore. And it was. We both liked it. It was a. It's a good piece. And it was not all washed out. Oh, my goodness. There's so much washed out stuff now that we're talking about. No agenda art generator.com, where people can join in the festivities of trying to get your artwork chosen and Jeffrey. Ria, man, he said, jeffrey, you've got to give that model up, man. That's no good. Coach Joe says same thing. It's your. Your luminance is at zero, Jeffrey.

[B]

Luminance. Luminance issues.

[A]

Yeah, luminance issues. It's really. It's getting really bad. Whatever. I want to know what model that is because that thing's on the verge of collapse. That, that it's been eaten. Its own output too much. And that's pretty much all that we have is AI. So we'll see.

[B]

Yeah. So now we're not complaining about the art, we're complaining about the AI itself.

[A]

Yes, it's exactly what you do. So that's part of our value model. You can do all kinds of stuff. You can upgrade servers before the show. That we consider that to be value. We appreciate that. Voidzero. You can give us boots on the ground, organize meetups, hit somebody in the mouth. But above all, we always love the financial support. Here's how it works. You go to noagendadonations.com and whatever you felt you got value wise out of the show, just write that number down, send it to us, and then we'll thank you for it. $50 and above. Everybody gets thanked if. Sometimes we'll read your note. If it's something short or something for you. Funny in there, but guaranteed for those fortunate enough to be able to Support us with $200 or more, you. Not only do we read your note, within reason, we also will give you an associate executive producer credit. It's a Hollywood credit which works anywhere. Hollywood credits are recognized, including IMDb.com $300 or above. You get an executive producer credit and of course you read your note. And we'll kick it off with Daniel. Daniel of Dan. Daniel, who's from Enschede in the Netherlands, comes in with 515 38, which I'm presuming is 500 plus fees. And he says, note. This is not a drunk donation. Okay, Note. I have been a listener since 2008 and erratic donor, usually once a year.

[B]

Hold on a second. How do you pronounce the name of that town again?

[A]

Inschede. I got a note from someone else who says stop making fun of John. How he pronounces Dutch names and places. Your Spanish sucks. Like, what.

[B]

Is Spanish sucks? Yes, well, people are finally pushing back on. On your abuse.

[A]

My elder abuse. It's horrible. I should be arrested.

[B]

You should.

[A]

With this donation, I would like to become Secretary General of the Gins of the world. Now, that's going to look handsome on your what? The gins of the world. Gins as in gin the drink. Gin the gin. Gin the gin. Oh, yeah.

[B]

Gin was invented in Holland. It was Yenever is the way it's pronounced to the connoisseurs. And you can have it. And there's a number if you go to Old Town, there's a number of bars there that have a lot of yenever. That is stunning.

[A]

I would say both would be the ones who.

[B]

No, no, that's. That's a commercial one. Now. You got to get some of the. Really? The boat. No, no, I'd say no to that.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

That's a good product, but it's not nothing like some of this stuff.

[A]

You want to get it in the croc. Yes, you want to get it in the croc.

[B]

It should be in a croc.

[A]

Gins of the world. Which will look handsome on your secretary general certificate with its folding and all. It also makes me a night drinking night. Seems a fitting night name for me. Thank you both for your insights, which has shaped my. Part of. Which has shaped part of my thinking in the years past. P.S. every night is a drinking night because you don't need to drink. Right. Well, there's a slogan. Thank you. Every night's a drinking night because you don't need to drink. Right. There you go.

[B]

Yeah, it's just true.

[A]

That's it. There you go.

[B]

He says you need to drink.

[A]

Oh, you need to drink. Okay.

[B]

But I like the other one. It's a non sequitur.

[A]

Yes, it's good.

[B]

I think we'll make that a theme. Bruise bitcoin. Bruise bitcoin. This is a bitcoin donation that actually has numbers involved. This is actually $500.

[A]

It works. It works.

[B]

Finally, after six months, we got somebody who's got some bitcoins sitting around. Hi, fellas. A true Gen X here saying ITM to a couple of boomers. My thoughts and prayers to Adam for his missing the Gen X cutoff.

[A]

Yes, thank you. I feel bad about it.

[B]

That's an interesting thing to say. I have been a loyal listener since 2022 when Dame Jennifer of Charleston punched me in the mouth when we hosted Texas Slim for a joint bitcoin no agenda beef initiative party.

[A]

That was a humdinger.

[B]

What?

[A]

It was a humdinger.

[B]

Let me write that.

[A]

Really? You're writing that down?

[B]

Yeah. I need to use that word in one of the upcoming in the show mixes.

[A]

Okay, I'm dinger.

[B]

I was impressed by her executive art director title and wanted to know more, Today I donated 500 bucks in Bitcoin via strike for the Secretary General title of which I'd like to be named. Secretary General of Bitcoin. Huh?

[A]

There you go.

[B]

Below is my strike transaction ID. And he's got an ID there. Let me know how to get my SEC gen cert. You go to no. What was it again?

[A]

Noagenderrings.com and it'll be the tab at the top.

[B]

A tab. Noagendarings.com tab. And you'll get it probably in a couple weeks. JCD, it's time to buy some bitcoin. Seems like a high is high in case it catches on. Oh, I see he's being funny. As a tech writer, I looked forward to your PC Mag column in the early 80s. I think that would make sense to you. Here's to no exit plan. Huzzah. Thanks for all you do. Jingle. Gotta get a bitcoin bruise. Bitcoin.

[A]

They're saying that all hell is gonna break loose and you're gonna need a bitcoin. All right, thank you, Bruce and bitcoin. And so we move to Susan and Joe from Wexford, Connecticut. And they sent in a note and.

[B]

It'S on a card.

[A]

It's 333.33. Dear Adam and John. YouTube, you two are great. My husband and I started listening in 2022 after hearing Adam on the Glenn Beck podcast. Beck donation.

[B]

Wow. Finally somebody.

[A]

I think we've had some Beck donations before.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

I think so. It took a little while, but we are now pretty addicted to the show. I think new listeners have to get through these stages. 1. Listen but stop at first donate segment quote. That was informative and.

[B]

Funny.

[A]

Funny. But what's all this crazy stuff about knights, dames and douchebags? Two. Two.

[B]

Yeah. We have our own language.

[A]

Two. Listen to the whole show but skip the donation segments. Why would I want to hear all those names? Names. 3. Listen to entire podcast and enjoy donation segments. Quote. Wow.

[B]

This is the st. Yeah.

[A]

This is the stages of stages.

[B]

You listen to everything.

[A]

Wow. Those notes have good info and we like knowing our fellow listeners. We listen together sharing a set of earbuds.

[B]

Aww.

[A]

While we walk a five mile loop around a local lake. One lap is half an episode. How about that? We punch several family members in the mouth. And when we are all together, non listeners probably feel left out by all of our references to the show. Yes, when you call your cousin. That's what you do is how it works. Thanks for all you do. Here's to at least four more years. Susan and Joe from Wexford, Pennsylvania. Thank you very much. That's a. This is that. That is a good point. We should bring that up on the next best of show. The three stages.

[B]

Very good note too.

[A]

Three stages of no agenda. Absolutely.

[B]

And I like the fact that she's, she's, you know, first put off by the singular language used within the show and then mentions that she punched somebody.

[A]

In the mouth even though it's hit. But we'll take it.

[B]

Or she him.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Janet Giles. Giles Gilis. G I L L E S in San Marcos, Texas. 333 would love to be Secretary General of returning factory jobs to farms.

[A]

Oh, and she's in San Marco.

[B]

You're short a bit there for the secretary generalship.

[A]

But I think she donated before. I don't know. No, no.

[B]

Maybe there's something else we'll. We'll look at into it.

[A]

Yes. Crystal McCutcheon. Is that it? Crystal McCutcheon. She's in Beaverton or Ontario, Canada. Is this 210 Canadian buckaroos or is this $210?

[B]

That would be dollars because that's what comes through in the spreadsheet.

[A]

James.

[B]

That could be. That could be up enough. I think it might be.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

James. He'd be an executive producer.

[A]

All right, I will. I will mark her as such. Done. James and coapparel.com an apparel company with an agenda. What is this? Show your faith with fashion. James and coapparel.com creates beautiful clothes that help celebrate your faith. Wow. This is just an ad. How about. How about. Hi, Hi, John and Adam.

[B]

We love the show.

[A]

No. At james and coapparel.com we offer tasteful clothes at reasonable prices. No agenda listeners can get 10% off with code. No Bongino. And display your faith with you everywhere you go. Get your clothes at james and company. That's james and coapparel.com yeah. And God bless. No agenda. Have a wonderful week. Warmly, Crystal. Well, Crystal, next time a little less heavy on the james and coapparel.com otherwise. Thank you very much. I will check it out.

[B]

Matthew Martell in Brumal, Pennsylvania. 21010 60. Quantum computing is just around the corner. We just need a little bit more cash. Visit martellhardwell hardware.com use coupon code Hair Ursula for an additional 10% off your order. JCD like a hot. I'd like to hear about. I like to hear JCD's Hot Pockets.

[A]

Oh, I'm sorry. For some reason I didn't get that. See, that's how you do it.

[B]

Yeah, that's how you do it. You slip it in. It's like, listen to some podcasts where they have gold as a sponsor and watch how the seamless transition the podcaster makes to the talking about buying gold.

[A]

That's exactly it. That's how you got to do it. Okay. Was there any more to that note?

[B]

Just Hot Pockets. Hot Pockets.

[A]

All right. By the way, I like james and coapparel.com I might buy something from you.

[B]

Buy some martellhardware.com while you're at it.

[A]

Okay. Then we have our next note from Anonymous in Bellingham, Washington. $200.20 comment? Coffee, not cash. CC only. Oh, John, I was disappointed that when told you could not buy the bag of coffee with a doll, you whipped out the credit card. At your age, you should know better than to kowtow to the credit card only. I am sure cash is still legal. When confronted with the option of CC only, I leave my purchase on the counter and walk out the door protesting by walking away makes a statement. I hope to hear that when you do decide to leave the house again. You feeling embarrassed? Oh, no. Emboldened to walk away from businesses that don't reflect your standards? I still love the show. Listen every week and think. You two are very funny, especially John. Have a great day. Well, she told you.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. She's referring there to the Phil's Coffee experience I had.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Where I went to Phil's Coffee fee.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And it turns out they don't take cash, which I think is illegal in Berkeley. And I call them out on it.

[A]

Yes. Rightly so.

[B]

And of course, the cashier, you know, he's. What does she know?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

I haven't got a cash register. I couldn't give you change. All right. Last on our list is Linda Lupatkin. She comes up from Lakewood, Colorado with $200 and asked for J Jobs Karma and tells us for a competitive edge with a resume that gets results, go to ImageMakers Inc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs. That's Image Makers Inc. With a K. And work with Linda Liu, duchess of jobs and writer of winning resumes. And I want to say this. She's been working with Brennan.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And Brennan tells me some of this. One of the things she does. And every time he brings up one of these anecdotes, she is. I'm thinking about it. She is a terrific coach on what to say to people how to say it, when to say it, and how to say it.

[A]

You mean like she goes with you through the interview process?

[B]

No, she. She was like, she was telling him, when you do this, do that, do that. And every one of these tips are because I was listening to them, because I have my own thoughts on a lot of this stuff myself.

[A]

You know, don't donate 200 bucks. We'll listen to him donate 200 bucks.

[B]

It's like I was thinking, that is a terrific. Every one of them he brought up was I. I had to respond with, that's a terrific idea. So she's not a slouch. And we all decided, a little group of us, that what it is, is she's been doing this for so long that she knows all the trick. Tricks and traps.

[A]

Traps, yeah.

[B]

So she sets you up. I would recommend her in this situation. Then he mentioned that she's thankful when we talk about her.

[A]

Well, if she's that good, she deserves it. We love products that we love. We'll talk about no extra charge.

[B]

Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You thought.

[A]

Now send me some more cans. Send me some more cans. Hey, he didn't come in today, did he?

[B]

No, he didn't, because he's going broke. Sending. You cost to send those cans in the post. Just like 50 bucks to send a couple of cans.

[A]

I love the cans.

[B]

Thank you very much. Some other way of getting them.

[A]

Thank you very much.

[B]

Make your own damn cold brew. Wow.

[A]

You might send a letter to Johnny. He's mean to me. Condescending and mean. Thank you very much to our executive and associate executive producers. The titles are yours and they're official. You can put them on IMDb.com, put them on your resume, put them in your LinkedIn profile everywhere. And if anyone questions it, we'll be happy to vouch for you. No problem at all. We will be thanking the rest of our supporters. $50 and above in our second segment. Thank you so much and for supporting the no Agenda show. Value for value, any amount, whatever you feel is appropriate. Go to noagendadonations.com Congratulations to our super producers.

[B]

Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth, Hot pockets.

[A]

A lot of noise. I got a speed report. Ashlyn. Speed report. Speed report.

[B]

Yeah. She win?

[A]

Well, unfortunately. Sad news. Ashlyn was in a car accident in her streetcar and she had two concussions. For her safety and health, Ashlyn will not be participating in the final race of the season. But there is good news to all the no Agenda Slaves. Ashlyn will still be in Georgia for the season ending race. She'll be signing autographs and seeing the sights. Go see her and some amazing racing action. There'll be action on the track Thursday, Friday at the 10 hour race on Saturday. The track is one of the best in the world. Go see her on all the action Road Atlanta. Check out her merch store, all her socials. P.S. she was going to finish in the top 20, which is a big deal in this series. Very competitive. And our producer here tried to help with some sponsors. Unfortunately, the line of work I'm in don't really need to advertise. Anyway, we are a big fan of Ashlyn Speed and we think the next season will be her season. And if you're out there and you want to support her, get on the no Agenda car. We're on that car. Very small sticker, but we're on the car. We love Ashlyn. She's going to be a big name in racing one day.

[B]

Big name, I think so as long as she stays out of the street, off the streets. She still is a woman driver. We have to remember that.

[A]

There it is. I got a note from Cynthia, by the way. Remember talking about the front license plate in Texas that Tina got pulled over because she doesn't have a plate on the front? And we're at two plates. Yeah.

[B]

Somebody wanted to say hi. Yeah.

[A]

Yes, exactly. Well, we got a note from Cynthia. She's the chief strategy officer for Hometown Hero in Austin. And she says, as a result, I manage all of our lobbying teams, state, state and federal. So she's in the lobbying game. She knows what's going on. Florida does not require a front license plate. When I moved here to Austin three years ago, I purchased a new car. And as you noted, some new cars did not have a good place for a front license plate. The grill is beautiful. And even the salesman at the dealership said he hoped I didn't ruin it with a license plate. I asked one of our lobbyists, so this is deep, good information, if we could do a side project and get rid of the front license plate requirement. Now, that's a no agenda producer right there. He explained that it has been tried many, many times. And every time it gets introduced into the legislature, which meets every other year, 3M goes into action. 3M, you see, makes the paint that the license plates are coated with. And having only one plate would mean they sell Texas half the amount of paint. And now you know why we have this silly two plates requirement. Well, how Messed up is.

[B]

That's a good one.

[A]

Yeah, I know.

[B]

That's the way it works.

[A]

I know. You know, what we need to do is call them out on the floor. Oh, you don't you want this license plate just to give 3M some money? You shill. That's what we need to hear. Maybe I can find someone to do that.

[B]

So I got three clips, clips that are very interesting, and these were supplied by Steve Jones. These are the NPR Morning Edition clips on a very. Just. It's something that doesn't. I didn't know about until I listened to these clips. And this is the Supreme Court cases that are being discussed, and one of them is quite fascinating. Supreme Court justices will hear arguments today about the government's ability to regulate what is known as conversion therapy.

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It's a case that pits conservative Christian.

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Groups against major medical organizations and advocates for the LGBTQ community. NPR legal affairs correspondent Nina Totenberg has this report. Conversion therapy is generally defined as the treatment used to cure a person's attraction to the same sex. In other words, to make a gay person straight and to cure a person's desire to change their gender identity by making them comfortable with their gender identity birth. Every major medical organization from the American Medical association to the American Psychological association has repudiated the practice, finding that it doesn't work and instead leads to deep depression and suicidal thoughts in minors. As a result of these findings, half the states have banned the practice for those under the age of 18. Jessica Ritter is one of many former conversion therapy patients who now oppose the treatment. Raised in a devout Christian family, she says her first kiss was from another girl, and she was devastated when the relationship quickly ended, believing she would go to hell. So devastated that she eagerly embraced conversion therapy. You're broken, and then you're doing all the things that they're telling you to do, and it's not working. It just broke me down. It took her years to recover. Cover.

[A]

She says, oh, yeah, this is a very big topic in the church circles right now.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, I'm sure it is something that's come and gone, but they. They have an issue with it because the. I mean, the courts and the whole society has an issue.

[A]

Calling it conversion therapy is the problem right there.

[B]

Well, that was one of the. That's what it was called. It still is, but. But the problem they have now is that they're conver. Using conversion therapy, as it were, to convert kids into being trans in schools.

[A]

And that's okay.

[B]

Yeah, that's the problem. Is it okay here but it's not okay there. I mean, you know, what are you doing here? So. So part it is three parts, so there's part two. The alliance Defending Freedom, however, cites other teams who it says have been saved by conversion therapy. The conservative Christian legal group is challenging the ban on conversion therapy, contending that it violates the therapist's right to free speech in talk therapy.

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The plaintiff in the case is Kaylee.

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Chiles, a licensed therapist in Colorado. I want to be able to operate genuinely and create therapeutic relationships that are not hindered by the values and position of our state. And that's what my clients want as well. And currently, I'm having to turn them away. Representing Childs, lawyer James Campbell will tell the Supreme Court today that what Chiles does is purely talk therapy, and thus that it's protected by the Constitution's free speech guarantee. The state can determine who is qualified to be a licensed counselor. It can determine that they have the right education, that they have sufficient. But what the states can't do is come in and say, you can have a conversation about a topic, but not if you're going to talk about it from this perspective. It's just blatant viewpoint discrimination. Colorado Attorney General Philip Weiser counters that the state law is, in fact, narrow. It applies only to treatment of minors, and it allows anyone of any age to seek counseling from religious organizations without being subject to state life licensing laws. But, he notes, states are entitled to require licensed therapists and other medical professionals to abide by the established standard of medical care.

[A]

Oh, we're. This is the conversion wars. The great conversion war. Wait.

[B]

Tattle'S too long.

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The great conversion wars of 2025.

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You need that in there?

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Yes, Very, very important part.

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All right, let's wrap it up. Each side in this debate has to deal with an embarrassing fact. Briefs filed by those endorsing conversion therapy rely heavily on the CASS review, commissioned by the British National Health Service, which last year found insufficient evidence to justify transgender affirming care for minors. But the Cass review reached a very different conclusion when it came to conversion therapy, condemning it as unsupported by science and not an approved treatment. As for Colorado's position, its opponents note that major medical associations have not always been right. Indeed, the American Psychiatric association actually listed homosexuality as a mental disorder until 1973. Attorney General Weiser replies that medical science evolves over time. There were times when we didn't know that smoking cigarettes. Cigarettes caused cancer, but now that we know it does, it's wrong for a doctor to tell people to smoke cigarettes three packs a day and tell them don't worry about the health effects. That would be substandard care, just like conversion practices are substandard care. A decision in the case is expected by summer.

[A]

Yeah, no, this is a big one.

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Yeah, the whole thing keeps them busy.

[A]

Yeah. I have some legal news. Some legal news. And this was a gigantic cover up, really, by 60 Minutes about the vaccine court. Not a lot of people know about the vaccine Court. I think we've discussed it, but there is a. I'm sorry.

[B]

Yeah, I was going to say I watched this. I didn't take any clips from. Because I could have. Glad you did.

[A]

Well, custodian did it, so I'll be honest about that.

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Well, the point is, is when I watched it, it seemed like the. They were trying to portray, give a message about the vaccines being great. But they kept. But the examples they used were people that were severely injured, obviously by vaccines.

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Yes. And I think the message was a little different. As I listened to the clips. I did not see the actual 60 minute piece.

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Oh, you had to. Well, you're probably.

[A]

Well, no, I have.

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Disturbing.

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That's very disturbing. Yes. Here's the intro.

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If you've never before heard of the National Vaccine Court, you're hardly alone. It sits inconspicuously a few hundred yards from the White House and stands as a model of effective public policy, balancing the societal good of widespread vaccination with rare individual harm. Founded in the 1980s, the court has, with little fanfare, paid out billions of dollars to Americans who have claimed injury after getting a vaccine. But it's rare today. With vaccines, skepticism rising and given voice in the highest ranks of government, we wondered, can this singular court block out the noise, withstand the political winds and stay true to its mission?

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So I'm gonna skip over the horrible child who right after got six months, got his, you know, his dose of multiple vaccines and immediately couldn't talk and just horrible. I'm gonna skip over that and go to attorney Renee Gentry.

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Attorney Renee. Renee Gentry. That's circumstantial evidence because it's not direct evidence. She's a leading vaccine injury litigator and director of the Vaccine Injury Litigation Clinic at George Washington University Law school in.

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Washington D.C. by the way, I think the lawyers are the problem here.

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Perfect. I represent both vaccine injured children and adults. All of my clients are vaccinated. Most of them will start the conversation by saying, I'm not anti vax. Why do you think? Think they need to tell you right off the bat they're not anti vax but there's a lot of public pressure when you say that you have a vaccine injury, that people think you're some kind of a crazy person or you're out there. And also because most people have never heard of a vaccine injury, they're rare. So rare that while hard to quantify precisely, the chances of serious vaccine injury have been likened to lottery odds. Lightning strikes. Bear in mind global immunization has saved an estimated 154 million lives. Six lives each minute.

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What was that term? Labriad.

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I didn't hear it clearly.

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Labriad. I'll have to look it up. Labriad. Which is the chance of being struck by lightning. Sure. So here's the details on the vaccine court.

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But when an injury does occur, families can come to vaccine court. Seen in this informational video, part of the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program. The court was established in response to a public health scare in the 1980s. The health of millions of children may be at stake because when families of injured children went to civil court and successfully sued the manufacturers of the DTP vaccine, an older version of DTaP, it caused all but one of those drug companies to pull out of the market resulting in vaccine shortages. Congress acted crafting a bipartisan bill that partially shielded drug manufacturers from liability so they would continue to develop life savings.

[A]

Hold on. Partially. Partially? What do you mean partially? Since when is.

[B]

I don't believe that to be true.

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I don't think that's true either.

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Congress acted crafting a bipartisan bill that partially shielded drug manufacturers from liability so they would continue to develop legs. I think they might be referring to, referring to is that if there is something egregious or they're sending vials of salt water or something, I mean there may be some out. So you could actually use that term. But the reason they say it there of course is to soften it because this report is slanted.

[A]

No kidding.

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Did crafting a bipartisan bill that partially shielded drug manufacturers from liability so they would continue to develop life saving vaccines. And at the same time Congress acknowledged that vaccines can cause injury. As bill sponsor Senator Ted Kennedy described. When children are the victims of an appropriate and rational national policy, a compassionate government will assist them in their hour of need.

[A]

So the vaccine manufacturers are completely covered in this court because it is a no fault court.

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It was hailed as such a unique accomplishment back in the day because you had these disparate groups, you had the parents of vaccine injured children together in the room with, with the manufacturers and everybody agreed that this was the best case scenario. Is that fair to the public? They think they have an injury caused by a vaccine, but they can't sue the vaccine manufacturer directly. You can still opt out of this program and sue a manufacturer. You have to just start in this program. But it's a lower burden of proof in our program so it's an easier thing for vaccine injured people to get compensation. Drug companies are not only not being sued, they're not part of the proceedings. Vaccine court is a no fault court, meaning in cases like Jacob Thompson's, negligence does not need to be proven, just that the vaccine more likely than not caused the injuries.

[A]

This is a disgrace. So what this lawyer is doing is she's saying, well, you know, you can either get, get some money or you can opt out of getting any money whatsoever, then go and sue them on your own. Good luck. That's, that's not okay. And in fact, well, the question of course is I don't know if it's in this one where the money comes from.

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Vaccine court is not your typical court. There's no jury. Cases are decided in front of one of a judges called special masters. Since the program began began in the late 80s, 12,000Americans have received almost $5 billion in payouts. There are no financial windfalls for lawyers.

[A]

What?

[B]

Isn't 12,000 a big number?

[A]

I think it's a big number. Yeah.

[B]

Well how can they then. How can you say rare? Rare. Rare throughout this report.

[A]

Who's the advertiser? I don't know. I mean, come on, we all know where the advertiser.

[B]

There are no financial windfalls for lawyers. The court pays them by the hour. Where does all this money come from? A 75 cent tax imposed on recommended childhood vaccines goes into a trust fund earmarked for vaccine injury compensation.

[A]

What a scam. This is unbelievable. Hey guys, look, we're gonna, we're gonna fix this. All these poor kids, you know anyone who's. Yeah, you know, don't worry. Just give us 75 cents for every single vaccine and we'll take care of it. We'll make it all go away, don't worry about it. And these lawyers. Oh, there's no windfall. Are you kidding me? Sorry, but I think five to seven hundred dollars an hour is not bad, depending on how long you're on the case. It's still money. Oh, there's no big windfall. Come on. Meaning you also don't get the top guys, the top industry injury guys. Three, three, three, three, three, three, three.

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Four, four, four, four, four. Four. Four.

[A]

You don't get those guys who, like.

[B]

You don't get suits and boots for vaccine injury compensation. In July, the Thompsons received a nice nat pop judgment of $2.1 million based on the special Masters ruling that it was more probable than not that Jacob's six month vaccinations aggravated an underlying genetic mutation. Jacob also received a lifetime annuity to cover his future care. Is there any doubt that the vaccine caused Jacob's injury? We can't ever prove scientific certainty on it. Does that not mean, though that some cases are being compensated when in fact, and that's what Congress intended, there's very clear indication that said it would be better to compensate somebody that wasn't injured than to miss somebody who was. How do you feel about that? I think that's fine. While vaccines are critically important public health tools, they're not magic. You know, you can, you can have an allergic reaction to aspirin. So it's a lot of different factors come into play to have a person be injured by a vaccine. Their genetics, their immune system. That's why the no fault part is critical. The vaccine caused it. But there's no bad actor in this case.

[A]

No, there's no. This is your lawyer speaking.

[B]

Oh, there's kind of a lawyer. This is like the lawyer in idiocy. Oh, yeah. Well, they said you're guilty.

[A]

Here's the kicker.

[B]

The program is structured around a vaccine injury table, basically a conversion chart of vaccines and eligible injuries. If your child, for instance, got a rubella vaccine and developed chronic arthritis within seven and 42 days, you may be eligible for damages. The most common compensation is for shoulder injuries suffered from a misfold injection. You can file for an injury not on the table. Overall, half of all claims have been dismissed today. Vaccines on the table have jumped from the original 6 to 16, including the annual flu shot, though notably not Covid. As for the eligible injuries, autism is not one of them. That decision did not come easily, as retired special masters didn't even Fowle and George Hastings explained. There's been a lot of talk lately about a possible link between vaccines and autism. This has been litigated and decided in your court 15 years ago. You know, I spent many, many years of my life almost full time looking at that issue.

[A]

Now I don't have to play the rest of the clips, but of course, no, no. All the special masters said no. No opted. No. Autism, no. All the science shows now. Science.

[B]

How come they left Covid off the COVID shot, one of the worst shots ever. Off the list because I don't care what happened to you. Too bad.

[A]

Because it wasn't actually a vaccine, you see, it was a.

[B]

Yes, but it's still. It's still covered as a indemnity. Still indemnified.

[A]

Yes, I know. I know. It's.

[B]

It is a scam.

[A]

It's just a scam. It's a scam. It's a scam. It's a very unfortunate. Unfortunate scam. Very unfortunate.

[B]

Okay.

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Yes.

[B]

Okay. We're getting. We're almost done. Let me just play these two. I got two. The firebug clips. Let's get those.

[A]

Oh, yeah, this is great. This is great. This is for Newsom's Inferno.

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Yeah, Noosa. That's a good name.

[A]

We used it before. Yes, it's.

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Oh, we have.

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Yes, we have. But I won't say anything about you because I don't want any bad letters.

[B]

No, because you'd be. You're a horrible person. Federal and local officials announced a major break breakthrough today in the investigation into January's Palisades fire in California. After eight months of intensive work, authorities confirmed the arrest of a suspect in connection with the Blaze. NTD's Cristina Corona has more on the story of 29 year old Jonathan Rendernecht for igniting a fire that ultimately burned down the Palisades earlier this year, killing 12 people, destroying more than 6,800 structures, both homes and businesses, and damaging over a thousand more buildings.

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Rindernacht is accused of intentionally starting a.

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Fire along a hiking trail just after.

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Midnight on January 1st. Officials say he had returned to Pacific Palisades after working an evening shift as.

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An Uber driver on New Year's Eve. Two of his passengers told law enforcement that he appeared agitated and angry that night after dropping off a passenger in Pacific Palisades. Rindernick drove, parked his car and tried and failed to contact a former friend. Prosecutors say he walked up a trail, recorded videos and listened to a rap.

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Song featuring fire scenes before allegedly setting the fire. Sensors detected the lockman fire at 12:12am on January 1st. Officials say he fled the scene in his car, but later turned around after passing fire engines. The defendant walked up the same trail.

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From earlier earlier that night to watch the fire and firefighters using his iPhone to take short videos of the scene. Although firefighters initially extinguished the fire, strong.

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Winds on January 7 are believed to have caused it to reignite. Officials say the allegations are supported by his phone data, false statements and chat. GPT generated images depicting a burning city.

[B]

The allegations in the affidavit are supported by digital evidence, including the defendant's chat GPT prompt of a dystopian painting showing in part a born a burning forest and a crowd fleeing from it.

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I find this interesting, this part because it's not the image, it's his prompt. That's the digital evidence is he was so hell bent on seeing this.

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He's a firebug.

[A]

He's a fire. But I wonder, was he on any antidepressants or any pharma pharmacological using?

[B]

That going to ever come up in the conversation?

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Probably not. Officials say render neck generated the images months before the fire broke out. Asali said render neck lied about his.

[B]

Location to the police, but cell phone.

[A]

Data put him near the scene of the crime. Investigators say he lived in the Palisades and was very familiar with the area.

[B]

He was arrested near his Florida home.

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And is expected to appear in federal.

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Court in Orlando Wednesday.

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If convicted, he faces a mandatory minimum of five years and up to 20.

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Years in federal prison.

[A]

Wow. Digital evidence is everywhere, people.

[B]

I don't understand why you only would get such a light sentence. The people died. Yeah. Really. It's manslaughter.

[A]

I mean this manslaughter. Yeah. Oh, no. You only. You only go away for a long time if you.

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Of course the kicker is. Which is not on ntd, but if you watch the right wing news, the kicker is that everyone blamed it on. On climate change. And the guy and the kid was a Bo Biden donor.

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Yeah.

[B]

And a Democrat. So beautiful.

[A]

It doesn't get much better than that.

[B]

I'm gonna show my support by donating to no agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that.

[A]

Oh yeah, that'd be fab. We are excited to welcome a couple of secretary generals. We'll get to those in a minute. We're. We do have a night and much more to come. Including John's tip of the day. What a doozy. It was the last one you did. People really, really loved, loved your wine tip. They were sending me pictures from all around the country. Yes, it's at H E B. I got John's wine. Look, my wife came home with 15 bottles. It's fantastic. But first, John is going to thank our supporters. Value for value. $50 and above.

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Dame Rita tops it off. She's back from Sparks, Nevada. $110.09. That's followed quickly because we have a very short list here. It turns out Kevin McLaughlin's already there at 8,008. He's the Archduke of Luna, lover of America and lover of boobs.

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Yeah.

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Stephen Hutto in St. Petersburg, Florida. 75. Blair in Austin, Texas. 73. 70, 64. You want some karma? Can you give them at the end?

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I can.

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Oh, we got that.

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You've been de douched. David Cox in Austin, Texas. Teresa Andrews in Camarillo, Brillo, Texas. California. 60. Grayson Insurance. Grayson Insurance in Aurora, Colorado. 6006. Jason shepherd in Trinidad, Colorado. 6006. Interesting. Les Tarkowski in Kingman, Arizona. 6006. It's Small Boobs Day. Lydia Terry Dominelli in Rochester, New Hampshire. 59. Gordon Myers in Dripping Springs, right down the road. Five thousand four hundred and thirty.

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Soon to be West Austin. It already is.

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Alex Salis. Hour.

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Salas hour.

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Yes. 5272. Miriam Marshall. 5272. These are actually $50 donors with the extra fees, which would only be 40 cents if it was a check. Brittany Miller in Trinidad, Colorado. 5272. Timothy White in Elburn, Il, Illinois. 272. Jill Presnell in Wichita. 5272. And she says, Happy 18 years.

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Thank you.

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Josiah Thomas in Ankeny, Iowa. 51. And there's our boys in Bad Idea Supply. Check them out on the website. Bad Idea Supply. They make all kinds of stuff. You can burn stuff with. 50, 50. And now we got the $50 donors. Just name and location, starting with Sir Chris in Box Springs, Georgia. Jacob Jacob Rotramol. Rotramol. Ratramol in Decatur, Illinois. Stephen Ray in Spokane, Washington. Edward, Missouri, Missouri in Memphis. Ray Howard in Kremlin, Colorado. Rene Knig in Ultresh. Knifa Kniga in Ultrech.

[A]

I'm not allowed. I'm not allowed to correct you anymore. People are sending me nasty, nasty grams.

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Well, it's because of your Spanish. Roderick Brown and mermaid Prince Edward Island, Canada.

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There you go again.

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Get that one right once in a while. Harm Veenstra. Veenstra in Born. Was that Born? Born. Born.

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Hold on. Bernie. Bernie, it's in. Let me see. Born.

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Born. Born. Drink more coffee. Brad. Brad. Just plain old Brad in Uvalde, Texas.

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Yes.

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Great segment on Israel. He writes especially the fine on pbs.

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I forget what that was.

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Jason d', Aluzio, our buddy in Miami Beach. And last on the list is Harry Clan in Alido, Texas. And that's our group of well wishers, supporters and producers. Producers for show 1806.

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Yes. Moving towards 18 years on the 26th of October. Thank you all very much. And here's the karma. As requested, you've got karma. Support the no Agenda show. Support your independent media deconstruction. Probably the only media deconstruction, not just the independent of any kind whatsoever. Go to no Agenda donation and hook us up. Send some value back. Whatever you got out of the show, send it to us. If you want to set up a recurring donation, that of course, is more than welcome. Any amount, any frequency. And you can always become an associate executive producer or executive producer. Noagendadonations.com Sir Kyle of Bertram and the Three Donkeys turned 58 yesterday. Happy birthday. Britney Miller wishes her smoking hot husband Jason Shepherd a happy one. He turns 49 on the 11th and Day Mindy turns 52 on October 13th. We celebrate your birthdays together. Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. And now it's time for not one but two Secretaries General. All hail to the Secretary's General. Cause they are the ones who need hailing.

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All hail to the Secretary's Generals on the no Agenda Show.

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Thank you very much gentlemen for correcting the jingle. It almost sounds perfect. We welcome the brand new Secretary General. Secretary General of the gins of the world. And the Secretary General of Bitcoin. It was bound to happen.

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All hail.

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Hail to the Secretary's General. All hail to the Secretary's General. Cause they are the ones who need hailing.

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All hail to the Secretary's Generals on.

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The no Agenda Show. Ho. And we have one knight to welcome into the round table. The no Agenda Knights and dames. If you don't mind grabbing your blade.

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There you go.

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Come on.

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Hell to flame.

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You wanna be where everybody feels the same.

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It's like a party.

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John's tip of the day is coming up. You can stay tuned for that. At this point in the show though, we always like to determine what we're going to play. Is the end of show ISO, as it's known and I have won. John sent a bonus clip earlier this morning which turned out to be a bonus ISO, also known as a biso. So I will play mine and then I can't wait to hear yours, particularly because it includes that bonus ISO. Here's the one I have for you. Okay, cool. High five. Overdone. Which is a real one. It's not not generated by AI. What do you have.

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Sounds like AI.

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There was not AI.

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Okay, well, here's a real one.

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ISO bluef from the ground soaked with our children's blood. Okay. Blue.

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How's that for show? Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

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Yeah, that's all right. Which indeed. This is the bonus one. It's long. It's a little long. It's on the long.

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It's a little long, but it's good. Podcasting is hard. Very hard. Hard, hard, hard.

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Oh, it's a little bit of a letdown.

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Well, it's. It was what I had.

[A]

So you spent all morning putting that together?

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I didn't spend all morning. At the last second, I said, maybe he won't go for the blood. The children's blood one, which I thought was. Was a good one.

[A]

From the ground soaked with our children's blood. I'm gonna take that one. I'm not taking AI. Who cares? It's time now for John's tip of the day.

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Great advice for you and me. Just the tip with JCD and sometimes Adam. Okay. This is a good one. Of course.

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Of course it's a good.

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I'm going to recommend a stream streaming product. Streaming product that you can put on your. I have. I put it on my LG screen and you could put any smart television. It will be able to take this and put it up there and you can also just use it your computer. But I have to say, I saw it promoted and I've seen it advertised, and I have to say it's. It's got some. It's. It's not bad and it's something I think people should consider using because. Because on it, on the streaming service, there's just under a hundred local TV newscasts for you news junkies from all over the country, from Memphis to Seattle to San Francisco, they're all over the place. So if you're like, you live in someplace and you still want to see what's going on at home, this is a place to go. But they have over 300 channels of streaming TV, not to mention free streaming. Yeah, it's Tubi. T U B I is actually good.

[A]

Tubi didn't to be buy or get bought by that by Pluto.

[B]

No. You're thinking, no, Pluto is still my go to man. No, Pluto. This is better than Pluto.

[A]

How does 2B make money? I. I think they.

[B]

They have. There's some. There's some. Somehow they make money. I have no idea, to be honest about it. Looking at some of their offerings, like maybe they have because they do play a lot of you know, repurposed movies. The collection of movies is just as good as Amazon.

[A]

Do they have ads?

[B]

Movies, you know, if you want to. Old crap movies. They're all on Tubi.

[A]

So get your, get your cheap wine from Costco and watch some old crap movies on Tubi. You're taking us down the tubies, Dvorak. Check them all [e-mail] John's Tip of the day.

[B]

And sometimes Adam created by Dana Burnetti.

[A]

Well, that's perfect. Just watch your old crappy Tubi movies for the next couple of days.

[B]

You can watch the newscast too. There's lots of them. They also have the CBC international stuff. They have Euro news is on there. Oh boy. It's a good product.

[A]

It's not outstanding, but it's good.

[B]

It's good. We'll tell you good is all out here.

[A]

We got end of show mixes coming up from Sir Scobie Earl of the Piedmont. We've got got the our very own clip custodian, Neil Jones with a brand new one and Professor J. Jones, no relation. Those are all coming up to send you out into the weekend as Friday and Saturday and Sunday. We'll be back with another no agenda show and right after these end of show mixes. If you're listening on your modern podcast app or noagendastream.com we have that Larry show coming.

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A Larry show.

[A]

Larry, Larry. And the title of this one is Game Over Narcissists. Larry is a funny dude. You'll like him. And until then, I am coming to you from the heart of the Texas hill country. The sites of the meetup on Saturday, Fredericksburg, Texas, where we're done with Oktoberfest. Thank the Lord in the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry.

[B]

I'm from northern Silicon Valley where I remain. I'm just John C. Dvorak.

[A]

We'll talk to you on Sunday. Remember us at no agenda donations.com until then, adios mo fos, whoi hooey and such. Gradually, the list of things humans can do, the machines cannot. This has gotten shorter and shorter.

[B]

Computer, computer. Is it time to pull the plug on artificial intelligence?

[A]

It's like the invention of fire.

[B]

This is kind of like the beginning of COVID again, to be honest. This is really at that scale and we should all be taking it very seriously. 20 years from now, how are we going to be looking back at this very moment?

[A]

That is a great question. Gradually the list of things humans can do, the machines can gotten shorter and shorter. Being able to talk like human really can Master language.

[B]

Is it time to pull the plug on artificial intelligence?

[A]

That is a great question. Being able to talk like a human, really master language.

[B]

Anybody at this point with a digital footprint can be impersonated. Computer. Computer.

[A]

It's like the invention of fire. This is really at that scale and.

[B]

We should all be taking it very seriously.

[A]

Being able to talk like a human, really master language.

[B]

Working.

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Working.

[B]

Moments ago, Israel launched Operation Rising Line.

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Rising lion I am a roaring lion. Rising line.

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Roaring line Rising lion I'm alive.

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Roaring lion I'm alive. I am a warring lion crying out.

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Ris.

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That'S how come they live this way. That's how come they were able to.

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Lay a hand on me.

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Rising life I'm alive.

[B]

Rising lion Everybody but me has an APAC plus person. It's like your babysitter, your APAC babysitter.

[A]

Like the wall tape sticks to the wall.

[B]

Does that mean an APAC person And they've got your cell number. That's wrong. What APAC is doing to you? Let me talk to my APAC person. Has the congressman been to Israel? They don't have a Germany dude. I'll talk to my APEC guy and see if I can get him to Is there any other Republican who has.

[A]

Your views on this?

[B]

Why would they want to tell their constituents? I wish I could vote with you today. Every member has something like this firmly embedded in apac. I'll talk to my APAC person and they've got your cell number. Is there any other Republican who has.

[A]

Your views on this?

[B]

Everybody but me has an APAC person. It's like your babysitter, your APAC babysitter. They don't have a Germany dude. That's wrong. What APAC is doing to you. Let me talk to my APAC person. Everybody but me has an ape APAC person. I'll talk to my APAC guy and see if I can get him to.

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Adios mofo dvorak.org/na from the ground soaked with our children's blood.