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Adam Curry
Well now, unfortunately it's gone so long that we're in Gunsmoke territory. Adam Curry, John C. Devorah.
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John C. Dvorak
It's Sunday, October 26, 2025. This year award winning Gimmonation Media Assassination.
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Adam Curry
Episode 1811 this is no Agenda.
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John C. Dvorak
Turns out she's a dude. As we broadcast live from the heart of the Texas hill country here in FEMA region number six in the morning everybody.
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Adam Curry
I'm Adam Curry from northern Silicon Valley where I've determined that if you wear jeans when you're over look like a homeless person. I'm John C. Dvorak.
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John C. Dvorak
I don't know if that's true. I wear jeans. I don't look like a homeless person. I'm over 50. I don't agree.
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Adam Curry
I go to the Monterey Foods where all these old farts go.
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John C. Dvorak
Well, you mean the baggy stuff, Berkeley?
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Adam Curry
These old men are wearing jeans and they all look like they're homeless. There's no reason for wear slacks. You're old. You're not a kid anymore. You're not like you're not. You're not running around in the park.
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John C. Dvorak
Well, what do you wear? Corduroys? Dockers? What do you wear?
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Adam Curry
What do you think would be so similar? Yeah, just. Just some sort of slack.
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John C. Dvorak
Okay. Hey everybody. Today is our 18th anniversary. Congratulations to all the producers of the no Agenda show who have been with us. Yes, join us. Thank you. To the Stream Wizardry, Avoid zero bemrose Cotton Gin. The trolls in the troll room. All of you are just fantastic. And congratulations to you. To you, my partner for 18 years. Stop. Stop. Hey, it won't stop. Why won't it stop? Oh, there. Stop, stop, stop. I can't make it stop. What is this?
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Adam Curry
Make it stop.
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John C. Dvorak
It's not stopping. I think my button's broken.
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Adam Curry
I have the real one around here somewhere.
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John C. Dvorak
Oh, it looks like this controller is busted. Oh, that's interesting. 18 years, 18 months.
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Adam Curry
Here's the real one.
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John C. Dvorak
Oh, wait. There's something very wrong here. Ah, no. What is happening? Oh no, it's out of control. Hold on, I got. I got to reboot a whole system here. This is bad. That's weird.
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Adam Curry
Why Buttons go bad.
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John C. Dvorak
Well, I don't think it was the button. I think it might be my entire MIDI controller finally gave up the ghost. Let me see, let me see if it's okay.
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Adam Curry
Well, it should run forever.
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John C. Dvorak
Well, it's mechanical.
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Adam Curry
Oh, it's mechanical. What? Yeah, I mean, sound comes in. There's a little midget in there going, hey, no. What do you mean mechanical?
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John C. Dvorak
Well, the MIDI controller controls the playout system and the MIDI controller controls the. I have 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. I have eight players because, you know, we do a lot of clips on this show, in case you hadn't noticed. No, we do a lot of clips on this show. And so, you know, from time to time I gotta load up a whole bunch of clips, particularly if we, if either of us has a.
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Adam Curry
Are they carts? Are they mechanical? You say it's mechanical. Did you move them all to eight.
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John C. Dvorak
Track or so, you know, not far from it. It is in fact a digital cart rack. Yes, that's correct.
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Adam Curry
But I used to use the term digital. That to me doesn't mean mechanical.
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John C. Dvorak
No, but the controller has faders and physical buttons for me to.
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Adam Curry
Oh, you have actual pots.
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John C. Dvorak
Yes, well, I call them faders. You know, you, you know, you still probably consider. I have round, huge knobs on my board.
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Adam Curry
That's what you want. Have you ever played with those, with those old systems with the giant round knobs?
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John C. Dvorak
I hate those system.
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Adam Curry
You got a big. You can fine tune it. There's a. I wish I could. Those old big, giant round knobs and a big vu meter that's the size of a house.
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John C. Dvorak
And then, and when you wanted to. This is too funny. And, and then when you, when you were ready to do, you know, to queue up a record. Queue up a record, you turned the pot all the way to the left and it was a little switch, a little click and then it would be in audition mode. You remember that?
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Adam Curry
Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. But I do recall it now.
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John C. Dvorak
That was important.
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Adam Curry
Yeah, that's right, Audition mode. So you could hear it as you queued it up without it going over the air.
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John C. Dvorak
Yes, exactly correct. Correct.
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Adam Curry
That's the kind of gear that we should have today.
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John C. Dvorak
You know, if I could get, if I could get a board that was still good, I'd probably have it here. I don't know if I'd actually use it, but I'd probably have it. That would be fun. That would be fun. So let's, let's take it. Let's take a little trip back, shall we? Just for a moment. For a moment. Let us go back to. Well, what was it? What was. So it was October 26th. Friday, October 26th, 2007. Let's go back in time. And this is for you children who don't know what 78 records sound. This is what the no Agenda show sounded like 18 years ago. Welcome everybody, to a brand new program on the Pod Show Network. Which could be titled a number of things. We chose no Agenda. But it could be the show with no imaging. No, no, no content yet. The only thing it is, is some things don't change. Guys with an idea of putting together a. What should we call it, John?
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Adam Curry
A Agenda Less Show.
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John C. Dvorak
Agenda Less. Exactly. So your window still makes a lot of mo. We didn't have the noise gate back then, but that's. I think that's your sound. Is all that. All that noise, that white noise in the background in California. Adam Curry here in London. Something we cooked up. Was it in like a four minute phone call? Hey, we should do a show together. Okay, let's call it no Agenda. Okay. And here we are.
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Adam Curry
Well, of course the basis for a show like this and I think everybody out there who's ever had a con or who has conversations with friends.
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John C. Dvorak
Friends.
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Adam Curry
They occasionally, especially when the conversations go on and on, say, you know, that would have been an interesting thing for other people to listen.
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John C. Dvorak
This is when you still pretended to be my friend.
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Adam Curry
Yeah, well, you know, that was the era when comic strip blogger had his Yo Agenda show and he kept claiming that as soon as one of us quit or something happened to the podcast network or whatever. Pod show network.
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John C. Dvorak
Yes.
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Adam Curry
The show would dissolve because we. Because we hated each other. No, because you were a jerk. According to him.
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John C. Dvorak
And some things never change. Exactly, exactly.
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Adam Curry
He still feels the same way, but you know, because you won't pick his art.
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John C. Dvorak
Hey, well, we picked this art just two shows ago.
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Adam Curry
I know we did. Yeah, but that was me.
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John C. Dvorak
Oh, okay. Hey, breaking news. Breaking news. Unbelievable. French President Emmanuel Macron's wife, Brigitte Macron discovered that her tax account on France's official government website listed her as male under the name Jean Michel. Breaking news.
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Adam Curry
Is this actually a news story or a hoax?
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John C. Dvorak
This is. No, this is. This is all over the French media. Not France 24 yet. Trust me, I've been looking for it. Yeah, it's great.
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Adam Curry
Well, it's possible.
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John C. Dvorak
Well, I mean, they have the. That's BFM tv, whatever that is. Milk Bar tv. That sounds reputable.
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Adam Curry
Oh yeah, Milk Bar. I always go to them is my.
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John C. Dvorak
Go to Milk Bar is the best. Oh, man. Anyway. 18 years, John. It's the longest gig I've ever had. How about you?
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Adam Curry
Well, now, unfortunately, it's gone so long that we're in Gunsmoke territory.
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John C. Dvorak
Hey, Hoss.
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Adam Curry
And there's like maybe one or two other podcasts that have lasted this long and so now it's historic people are actually listening to what will eventually be considered an historic podcast.
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John C. Dvorak
You know what? I heard someone the other day on a podcast saying that we are creating the future Library of Alexandria in real time. Because the future, of course, will only be a search results. We don't know if even if Google's gonna be around in the future because they're killing their own business model. But. And there will be spread throughout the digital universe, but luckily also the physical universe, because we have so many people who made CDs of the show, thanks to Ramsey, you know, that. That people will pick it up and go like, hey, what's this? Or what is this thing I'm listening to?
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Adam Curry
Yeah. The artifacts.
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John C. Dvorak
Yeah. And I'm sure not everything will be preserved, but there's so much. There's. I mean, that's the beauty of the Internet, particularly with podcasts, MP3s. They're just everywhere. And they're decentralized, downloaded onto millions of phones.
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Adam Curry
Yeah. They're archived by all kinds of people.
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John C. Dvorak
Yeah. And all kinds of devices. And everywhere. And people go like, oh, that's interesting. So These guys knew 50 years ago that we never landed on the moon. Wow, those guys were good. How can we not have guys like that anymore? Yeah, that's what it's going to be. So one of the early staples. I'm not going to do a retrospective show, but this just came to mind.
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Adam Curry
Why not?
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John C. Dvorak
Because I didn't prepare one, that's why.
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Adam Curry
Okay, well, that's the reason. Not because you don't want to.
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John C. Dvorak
No.
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Adam Curry
I do have some historical clips myself, but it has to do with measles.
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John C. Dvorak
Oh, no, we'll do that. And we kind of should do that in just a minute. So one of the early things that we were discussing, because we started just the end of 2007, 2008, we saw Obama coming. And I think one of the early memes of the show was Mac and cheese. Everyone's gonna be eating Mac and cheese. And we've gone, well, actually, this is one of our oldest jingles.
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Adam Curry
You slaves can get used to Mac and cheese, Mac and cheese. Cheap macaroni and cheap cheddar melted Mac and cheese.
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John C. Dvorak
Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese, everybody. And we went through an interesting history with Mac and cheese, where it became an actual luxury item. I think people were lined up for $18. Mac and cheese. Of course, we had the grilled cheese sandwiches that people stood in line for.
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Adam Curry
And now, before we continue, across from me, the pod show operation, across the street from that, from the studio or whatever offices, there was a Grilled cheese sandwich shop.
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John C. Dvorak
Yes.
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Adam Curry
And all they sold was grilled cheese sandwiches.
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John C. Dvorak
And for 15 bucks.
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Adam Curry
Yeah. Or something. It was outrageous.
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John C. Dvorak
And we've come full circle.
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Margaret
Last but not least, one trend. And Trubrand is making a big comeback as consumers tighten their wallets. And here it is. Is Hamburger Helper. The mix of Mac and cheese and ground beef is seeing a surge in sales. Harris. I grew up on the cheeseburger Hamburger Helper. And it was very good with the extra cheese sprinkled on top.
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John C. Dvorak
Yum. Hamburger Helper Mac and cheese.
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Adam Curry
Kaylee McEnany.
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John C. Dvorak
Yeah. You know, we. We went to the Fredericksburg Food and Wine Festival Friday.
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Adam Curry
Oh, there was a. A festival.
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John C. Dvorak
Yes. It happens every year, and we were invited to attend this year. And it was.
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Adam Curry
You can't get in if. Unless you're invited. What kind of a festival is that?
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John C. Dvorak
It costs 250 bucks for this dinner. That's why we've never been.
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Adam Curry
Oh, it's a dinner.
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John C. Dvorak
Yeah, it's on Marktplatz, and it's outside under the big tent. And what's interesting, I'm not quite sure who.
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Adam Curry
There's a big tent in Fredericksburg.
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John C. Dvorak
Oh, yeah. We have the Marksplatz in the center. Listen, we are an important little town. People come here.
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Adam Curry
It's a famous town. I don't know how important it is.
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John C. Dvorak
It was very important. We have Oktoberfest, of course. You have a big Christmas market. And our. We're very famous for our. Our. Our Christmas tree and our displays and all kinds of important. We're an important town. And now that we are pretty much overshadowing Napa Valley, that.
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Adam Curry
Yeah. Yeah, that'll be the day.
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John C. Dvorak
A lot of Napa guys at this food and wine festival.
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Adam Curry
Oh, that. They're. They're flocking there.
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John C. Dvorak
They are. They are. They're. They're all opening up. Win. Because they know that. They know that they'll get.
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Adam Curry
They know they get cheaper land.
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John C. Dvorak
Yes.
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Adam Curry
And maybe grow something.
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John C. Dvorak
Oh, no, they're not interested in growing anything. No, they just want to make drinking barns like everybody else. They bring in their grapes from. From California, and they, you know, do a little dance and. Oh, look at this. It's Texas wine. No. And what was interesting is that now I had a whole train of thought. You've taken me. We did the weave, and I lost the thr. There was something.
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Adam Curry
You did the weave?
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John C. Dvorak
It was something about. I can't remember now.
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Adam Curry
It was about the $250 ticket. You got invited to have dinner at the thing for the first time. And you learned something.
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John C. Dvorak
Yeah. I can't remember what I low t. I can't remember what I learned. It'll come back to me. It wasn't about the dinner, per se. Well, anyway.
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Adam Curry
Well, it was a wine and food festival in. In Fredericksburg.
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John C. Dvorak
Yeah, I know you're desperate, and I was mocking me. You're desperately trying to help me.
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Adam Curry
I am trying to help you. By trying, by the way you do this, to trigger the other person to thinking, oh, yeah, that's what I was thinking about. But unfortunately, I.
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John C. Dvorak
Well, it was.
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Adam Curry
I'm not being successful. I feel. I feel you're failing me.
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John C. Dvorak
Low t. It was something about Mac and cheese. It was related to Mac and cheese. I can't.
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Adam Curry
Oh, that chees cheese sandwich.
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John C. Dvorak
No. It's a disappointing payoff now. Now I think about it. So the point was that we were invited, and it was pretty much everybody. We were invited by the international arms dealer because when he's not selling C130s to Africa, which, by the way, is a dynamite business because they keep those Africans. They learn how to fly on YouTube, so they keep crashing them into hangars and into each other. So the guy has a steady supply of C130s. He also does real estate deals for these wineries, and he's busy. He had another guy there from. From Napa valley. You know, family, fifth generation. They want to buy cheap land here. And. But it was. It was odd. I'm not quite sure who the wine and food festival is for other than taking your buddies and showing them off. That was probably it. Oh, look, my friends are celebrities. Yeah. Now think about. It's exactly what it was. I was just a piece of meat.
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Adam Curry
You were just being used.
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John C. Dvorak
I was being. Well, they did have wild boar on the menu, so they have all the.
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Adam Curry
Well, I'd go for that, too. Yeah, wild boar.
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John C. Dvorak
But it was all of the entrepreneurs who have businesses who were there, and everyone's sponsoring the event. And we had salvation spirits, who's our bootlegger guy, Trey, who's also a lobbyist in Austin. And we had the Augusta vin and the wine heiress. And, like, who is this really for? And everybody had the same story. The attendance in our town is up by 25, 30%. Revenue down by 20% because we're in Mac and cheese times. People do not. They are not spending money. They're coming here. They're just looking around. Here, let me look at your winery. Yeah, I don't think I want anything to drink. You got any water? Some peanuts? Water so that is a. That is a bad indicator, I would say.
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Adam Curry
Yeah, I think things are a little down.
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John C. Dvorak
Well, 20% is a lot down. Everybody's like, yeah, you know, the traffic is there, but people are JL's, you know, just looking. Hey, I'm just looking.
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Adam Curry
JL's.
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John C. Dvorak
JLs. Yeah, just looking. So anyway, ah, there was a number. The Sunday morning shows were. Scott Besant is everywhere now, and I'm not quite sure why. I think maybe it's because of the TikTok deal. That may be part of it.
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Adam Curry
No, I don't think so.
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John C. Dvorak
Lady G. New.
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Adam Curry
A new agent.
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John C. Dvorak
Lady G was out.
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Adam Curry
Is there a new war we're starting, or is it because we had to do some land bombing?
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John C. Dvorak
No, you nailed it. You nailed it. No, you nailed it. Whenever there's killing going on, Lindsey Graham was like, yeah, we're killing people. I love it so much. Oh, yeah, this is great. Who are we killing? Drug dealers, of course.
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Senator Lindsey Graham
Good morning.
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Margaret
On Friday, Defense Secretary Hegseth ordered the deployment of the Navy's most advanced aircraft carrier, the Gerald Ford, to Latin America. President Trump was asked if he planned to ask Congress for a declaration of war. Take a listen.
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Adam Curry
I don't think we're going to necessarily ask for a declaration of war. I think we're just going to kill people that are bringing drugs into our country. Okay. We're going to kill. You know, they're going to be like, dead.
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John C. Dvorak
This is why Lindy Graham's like, oh, Donald, Oh, Donald. Oh, Donald. You're talking about killing again. I got to go on the shows.
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Margaret
You don't need an aircraft carrier to hit drug boats.
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John C. Dvorak
Yeah, you do. You need. Of course you do. You need to fly all your jets around. Of course you need that.
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Margaret
Our land strikes planned.
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Senator Lindsey Graham
Yeah, I think that's a real possibility. President Trump's made a decision that Maduro, the. The leader of Venezuela, is an indicted drug. Drug trafficker, that it's time for him to go. Venezuela, Colombia have been safe havens for narco terrorists for too long. And President Trump told me yesterday that he plans to brief members of Congress when he gets back from Asia about future potential military operations against Venezuela.
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John C. Dvorak
And I love it.
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Senator Lindsey Graham
And Colombia. So there will be a congressional briefing about a potential expanding from the sea to the land. I support that idea, but I think he has all the authority he needs. Senator Gallego on another network accused President Trump and our military of committing murder by attacking these drug boats.
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John C. Dvorak
I don't care who's killing who, but I'm there if there's murder. I'm there. I'm Lindsey.
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Senator Lindsey Graham
To our men and women in uniform. You're not murdering anybody. You're making America safer by going after narco terrorists. You're following lawful orders. When President Bush 41 took Ortega out in Panama, I mean, really, this is.
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John C. Dvorak
What blew my mind. Like the whole Panamanian fiasco. He's like, well, no, come on. President Bush took out Noriega, do whatever we want. He killed people here.
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Adam Curry
How come. I'm going to ask you this and I'm sure your clips will explain it. Not how come nobody, including Graham here, they talk about Bush, talk about how Obama used to have a kill list and would on every Tuesday pick a bunch of targets. And on sovereign soil elsewhere in Pakistan and Afghanistan, Iraq and elsewhere, who would have these guys blowed up? Blew up a wedding, apparently, According to some reports, an entire wedding. And then they came with a double tap and killed the Red Cross people. How come that's not mentioned? He's black.
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Senator Lindsey Graham
Ortega out in Panama. Reagan went into Grenada to deal with the Cuban influence. From Grenada in our backyard. He has all the authority in the world. This is not murder. This is protecting America from being poisoned by narco terrorists coming from Venezuela and Colombia.
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John C. Dvorak
This is so awesome. It's it. You can set your watch by it. If there's actual. If people are using terms murder and killing and death, Lindsey Graham shows up. I mean, really, Wherever. Yeah. We're going to kill the Russians in you.
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Adam Curry
Yeah.
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John C. Dvorak
Ukraine. We're going to kill them. We're going to kill the Russians. Kill, kill, kill this guy. And I think there's many people, in fact, I think in general, there's a large swath of the population who get turned on by killing, don't you think?
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Adam Curry
Well, something I don't like to think about.
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John C. Dvorak
Well, we asked the hard questions here on the no Agenda show.
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Margaret
The examples you're citing also involved ground troops.
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Adam Curry
Using ground troops.
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John C. Dvorak
Like ground beef.
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Adam Curry
Ground troops.
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John C. Dvorak
That. Is that a prompter misread or what is that?
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Adam Curry
Yes, it's a total prompter misread.
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John C. Dvorak
Ground troops like ground beef.
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Adam Curry
Like ground beef, exactly.
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John C. Dvorak
That's crazy.
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Margaret
The examples you're citing also involved ground troops. You said time for Maduro to go. That sounds a lot like regime change, by the way.
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Adam Curry
Stop. Yeah, this is the complaints that we have about ridiculing the way we do. There'll be somebody out there that listened to us ridicule, laugh at this woman for not being able to read a prompter correctly and saying ground troops and saying you Guys stink.
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John C. Dvorak
But I don't. You have to find humor in things and that was humorous.
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Adam Curry
Ground troops would you like. How many troops would you like? Ground.
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John C. Dvorak
We have troop helper on stage.
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Adam Curry
A coarse grind or fine.
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John C. Dvorak
This is bad.
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Adam Curry
Sausages.
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Senator Lindsey Graham
I'll let the president speak to that. I'm talking about a briefing that would. Expand military operations potentially from the sea to the land. It is time.
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John C. Dvorak
Notice this is, this is interesting and I'm not quite sure why this is yet, but we had from the river to the sea. Palestine shall be free. And now we have from the sea to the land. There's something, there's some mnemonics going on here that either have not unfolded yet or Lindsey Graham is psychic. I don't know. There's something happening here.
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Senator Lindsey Graham
Expand military operations potentially from the sea to the land. It is time for Maduro to go. It was time for Ortega to go. You know, the Monroe Doctrine is being robustly applied by President Trump. So these military assets are moving forward to deal with a country that. Venezuela's got blood on its hands when it comes to Americans by flooding our country with drugs from Venezuela and Colombia. So I hope Maduro would leave peacefully, but I don't think he's going to stay around much longer. I think President Trump is tired of Venezuela being used as a staging platform to poison America.
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John C. Dvorak
Do you think that President Trump does a booty call at night on Lindsey Graham him. But you know, the Phone rings at 11:30. Oh, Donald. Hey, Lindsay. I can't do Trump. Lindsay, I need you to go out on the shows tomorrow. I need you to talk about death and killing. Oh, all right, Donald.
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Margaret
Well, there's a lot.
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Adam Curry
I don't think they even talk.
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John C. Dvorak
This is just his, his normal mode. He just. Or, or does the. Does CBS know? It's like, hey guys, we got some killing. What? What sicko. Can we get to really acc. To really accentuate how horrible the Trump administration is. Get Lindsay. He'll do it. Well, hey, Lindsay, get off that kid.
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Margaret
There's a lot there, sir, but you cited.
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John C. Dvorak
I'm sorry, that was bad. That was bad.
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Adam Curry
That was bad.
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John C. Dvorak
Can we, can I retract that before I get sued?
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Adam Curry
You didn't just say anything. That. That's really was the way I see it.
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John C. Dvorak
It wasn't good.
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Adam Curry
Well, it just was a comment.
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John C. Dvorak
That was unnecessary roughness on the plate there, sir.
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Margaret
But you cited a Democratic senators criticism. He's not the only one. Some of your Republican colleagues have been uncomfortable with what little information has been shared with Congress.
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Adam Curry
Take a listen if they want all out war where we kill anybody and everybody that is in the country of Venezuela are coming out that has to have a declaration of war. It's something that is not pretty, very expensive. And I'm not in favor of declaring war on Venezuela, but the Congress should vote. The president shouldn't do this by himself.
- [26:04]
John C. Dvorak
If this was happening with this level of insight under the Biden administration, I'd be apoplectic.
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Adam Curry
Okay, well, first of all, Obama, going back to your earlier comment that CBS has their little list of people to bring in by bringing in Rand Paul, that just proves your point.
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John C. Dvorak
Yeah, yeah, of course. So the big question is, is this about drugs or could it be about something else?
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Margaret
What exactly is the end game? Because you're talking about regime change in Venezuela. The President says this is about drug boats.
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Senator Lindsey Graham
Yeah, well, I think the end game.
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John C. Dvorak
Is is he getting busy getting information on what to say next?
- [26:47]
Adam Curry
Yeah, no, he's thinking about what to say next. I don't think he's being fed anything.
- [26:52]
John C. Dvorak
I don't know about that.
- [26:53]
Margaret
About regime change in Venezuela, The President says this is about drug boats.
- [26:57]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah, yeah, it's about drugs and lyncing.
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Senator Lindsey Graham
Yeah. Well, I think the end game is to make sure that Venezuela and Colombia could not be used to poison America, that the narco terrorist dictator Maduro, Maduro no longer be able to threaten our country and to send in drugs to kill Americans. As to Rand Paul, I just disagree fundamentally with his approach. We didn't have a declaration to go into Panama. Bush 41 went into Panama to replace the leadership there because the Panama leadership, Panamanian leadership were working with drug cartels to threaten our country.
- [27:38]
John C. Dvorak
Oh, yeah, that was it. I mean, wow, wow. Lindsey, back off on that.
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Senator Lindsey Graham
Reagan didn't have a declaration of war, Congressional authorization to deal with Cuban influence. So this idea of Rand Paul I just fundamentally disagree with. To the other senators, you deserve more information and you're going to get more information. But there is no requirement for Congress to declare war before the commander in chief can use force. Panama and Grenada are two examples in our backyard for Republican presidents chose to go after countries and leaders that were threatening our people.
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John C. Dvorak
So. Well, and there's a couple more clips here, but what do you think is really going on here? Is this about regime change or is, is this about drugs?
- [28:32]
Adam Curry
It's about oil.
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John C. Dvorak
Yeah.
- [28:36]
Adam Curry
Yeah, it is about regime change because we got to get that oil.
- [28:39]
John C. Dvorak
Did you know that Lady G was a jag?
- [28:45]
Adam Curry
I did not know that.
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Margaret
But there, there seemed to be a number of issues Wound up in here. I know you personally used to serve as a judge advocate in the Air Force. Yeah, we looked at the job manual. Preventative self defense to counter non imminent threats is illegal under international law. So if we are not at international.
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John C. Dvorak
Law, when did this come about?
- [29:10]
Margaret
And these suspected criminals pose no threat of imminent violence. Isn't this potentially a war crime to be killing the people on these boats and then to be taking out a leader?
- [29:23]
John C. Dvorak
Go ahead, lady jag. You know what to say.
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Senator Lindsey Graham
No, not at all. I don't know what manual you're referring to, but I know what President Bush 41 did. He took down Ortega, the leader of Panama, because he was involved in drug trafficking threatening our country. Venezuela is now partnering with Hezbollah. Hezbollah is running out of money because Iran is weak.
- [29:45]
Margaret
That's not new.
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Senator Lindsey Graham
Partnering with drug cartels in Venezuela. No, it should have stopped. Here's what, here's what's new. You got a commander in chief's not going to put up with this crap. We're not going to sit on the sidelines and watch boats full of drugs come to our country. We're going to blow them up and kill the people that want to poison America. And we're now going to expand operations, I think to the land. So please be clear about what I'm saying today. President Donald Trump sees Venezuela and Colombia as direct threats to our country because they house narco terrorist organizations. The leader of Venezuela is an indicted drug dealer in American court. So yeah, the game is changing when it comes to drug traffickers and drug cartels. We're going to use military force like we have in the past to protect our country. That's the new game we're playing and I'm glad we're playing that game. And if I were Maduro, I'd find a way to leave before he goes down.
- [30:46]
John C. Dvorak
See, I still have to look at this through the lens of the North Sea nexus. I don't think we're going to do any land operations. I think this is really about destroying the drug trade and cutting off the City of London's main financial income because that's, I mean this is a lot of money that's blowing up in the sea. I don't know much about drugs, but it looks like that's a big haul every single time.
- [31:16]
Adam Curry
Maybe.
- [31:17]
John C. Dvorak
Anyway, let's get back to killing.
- [31:19]
Adam Curry
But again, again, I bring back. They talk about the woman, that reporter goes on about international war crimes and that's the opportunity right there to throw in the Obama material.
- [31:32]
John C. Dvorak
But I don't know why? Lindsey's not doing that.
- [31:36]
Adam Curry
He's obviously been briefed not to do that for some reason. I don't know what it is. Something's up with Obama.
- [31:44]
John C. Dvorak
He doesn't have an analog to Obama's drone kill list and drugs, although. Because the poppies over there, that was. That was. Yeah, that was us.
- [31:55]
Adam Curry
But they weren't blowing up the guy. They were just blowing them up, just arbitrarily.
- [31:59]
John C. Dvorak
No, I know, but. So this is.
- [32:01]
Adam Curry
Which makes it worse. I mean, at least there's a rationale on this. On this end of the deal.
- [32:06]
John C. Dvorak
How about this? Lindsey Graham's an idiot. How about that? Just. Just as a. As an idea.
- [32:10]
Adam Curry
I don't see that's. I don't believe that for a minute.
- [32:14]
John C. Dvorak
Well, let's get back to killing.
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Margaret
What is trafficking cocaine an armed attack on the United States? That's what you're equating it to?
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Senator Lindsey Graham
I am saying that there's plenty of law under article. Article 2 Powers of the president are designed to protect our countries from threats, foreign and domestic. Was it illegal for Bush to take Ortega out in Panama? Was it illegal for Bush, Bush, Bush, Reagan to go into Grenada to stop Cuban influence building this big long run way? There's plenty of precedent here to do what he's doing. But the game has changed. The game has changed when it comes to narco trafficking, drug organizations. We're going to take you out.
- [32:59]
John C. Dvorak
We're going to kill you. Yes, we're back to killing. And guess what? He's going to deal with you drug users, too.
- [33:05]
Margaret
You referenced something earlier.
- [33:07]
Adam Curry
Hold on a second now. Is this Margaret?
- [33:10]
John C. Dvorak
Yes.
- [33:11]
Adam Curry
Okay.
- [33:12]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah. Why?
- [33:13]
Adam Curry
So she. When she. When she brings up this armed. When she brought up the armed threat thing, he should have retorted with. Does killing Americans have to be with a bullet? That's the only thing that counts.
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John C. Dvorak
You know, I. I'm giving. I'm giving you the ifb. You can talk to Lindsay. I think that you're much better at it. I'm just saying, Lindsay, I'm passing it on to John. He's going to give you some tips. Talk about Obama, you idiot.
- [33:43]
Margaret
You referenced something earlier. Sir, I want to come back to. You said to the men and women of the military that they are carrying out lawful orders. Secretary Hegseth removed the top uniformed lawyers in the Air Force. You know this, the Navy and the army, because he called them roadblocks to orders that are given by a commander in chief. There have been other departures as well.
- [34:06]
John C. Dvorak
Come on. You're a jaguar.
- [34:08]
Margaret
This raises concern that commanders are not being given adequate legal counsel. That is why.
- [34:15]
John C. Dvorak
Go ahead.
- [34:16]
Margaret
You just said that sentence for them.
- [34:19]
John C. Dvorak
Give her some law.
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Senator Lindsey Graham
That's. That's garbage. That's absolute garbage. Which Trump doesn't have the go for the law. No, no, I'm saying that the, the theory that President Trump's doing something here illegally dealing with a country that's run by indicted drug dealer, it's the same as Panama. There's a better case to go into Venezuela than there was Panama.
- [34:43]
John C. Dvorak
I mean, okay, we have to analyze why he keeps bringing it back to Panama. Let's just review Panama.
- [34:54]
Adam Curry
Well, I don't know how much we can review, but Noriega was put in place by as a puppet to the United States and he didn't perform. Right.
- [35:02]
John C. Dvorak
Exactly.
- [35:03]
Adam Curry
And so we took him out. We said, no, hey, this is not what you're supposed to be doing. Becoming a drug lord. You're out of here.
- [35:10]
John C. Dvorak
Yes, exactly. So that's, that's what's going on. I mean, it can't be any more obvious that Madura. Madura is not doing his job the way we explained it to him.
- [35:23]
Adam Curry
That's the problem. We never explained. He got in through Chavez, who was running the show and he was a joker, kind of a clownish.
- [35:33]
John C. Dvorak
But who says the CIA wasn't involved in his installation? They love drugs.
- [35:38]
Adam Curry
I can't say I'm not going to argue against the possibility.
- [35:41]
John C. Dvorak
Okay, let's continue.
- [35:42]
Adam Curry
There's a possible that maybe. Yeah, you're right. He's the. He's a CIA asset.
- [35:47]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah, that seems obvious to me. I mean, keep going back to Bush. Bush. Most of the people are wanna.
- [35:54]
Adam Curry
Actually, actually he's by that thesis because he keeps doing that. That might be it.
- [36:01]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah.
- [36:02]
Senator Lindsey Graham
Okay, Continue to play Venezuela than there was Panama. There's a better case to deal with Colombia than there was Grenada. Yeah, I've been doing this all of my.
- [36:12]
John C. Dvorak
What was Grenada? What was Grenada? Same deal.
- [36:17]
Adam Curry
No, Grenada was turning into a Marxist. Out of the blue. They decided to have a kind of a Marxist regime. Began it with. I forgot who got into power and they just decided to become a Marxist country and we weren't going to have it. That's all. It was very simple.
- [36:37]
Senator Lindsey Graham
Okay, Colombia. Then there was Grenada. Yeah. I've been doing this all of my adult life. I have.
- [36:44]
John C. Dvorak
What were you doing as a kid?
- [36:46]
Senator Lindsey Graham
All the confidence in the world that President Trump has the legal authority.
- [36:50]
John C. Dvorak
What? Wow, what a statement. I've been doing this all my adult life. What, planning murder, killing people. Was he Was he around during Bush.
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Adam Curry
41 when he says, I've been doing this. Unless she clarify, asks him, what do you mean by this?
- [37:07]
John C. Dvorak
We won't know.
- [37:08]
Adam Curry
Yeah, yeah, he's just. He's just blathering now.
- [37:10]
Senator Lindsey Graham
There's a better case to deal with Colombia than there was Grenada. Yeah. I've been doing this all of my adult.
- [37:18]
Adam Curry
Colombia.
- [37:18]
John C. Dvorak
Colombia.
- [37:19]
Adam Curry
What's Colombia got to do with the price of bread?
- [37:21]
John C. Dvorak
He'd been doing coke all his adult life.
- [37:23]
Senator Lindsey Graham
I have all the confidence in the world that President Trump has the legal authority.
- [37:28]
John C. Dvorak
But more importantly, fist bump means something different to him.
- [37:30]
Senator Lindsey Graham
He's doing the right thing. More Americans have died from cocaine and fentanyl poisoning than any terrorist group in the world. I am very pleased that we now have a president who's going to use the full force of the American people, the might of America, to protect us from narco terrorist states and drug organizations. Keep it up, Mr. President. We're not committing murder. We're protecting our nation from people who want to poison us.
- [37:57]
Margaret
Well, there's obviously buyers on the other end of it, which is why the cartels are selling. Right. But, yeah, I want to.
- [38:04]
Senator Lindsey Graham
Yeah, we'll do a vote.
- [38:07]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah, Lindsey's gonna come and kill you, too. That's what I'm hearing.
- [38:11]
Adam Curry
Yeah.
- [38:11]
John C. Dvorak
We'll deal with both.
- [38:13]
Adam Curry
Yeah.
- [38:14]
John C. Dvorak
All right, let's wrap it up.
- [38:15]
Margaret
When we talk about lawful orders here, I myself spoke to Jack, a former senior commander, who said he'd want that in writing because of concern that. That this is going to be down the line, questionable. You've already heard the orders to carry out operations. You've already heard Democratic lawmakers, including on this program, say that they have concerns about future prosecution.
- [38:40]
Senator Lindsey Graham
Well, act on your concerns. Why don't you?
- [38:42]
John C. Dvorak
Why don't you?
- [38:44]
Senator Lindsey Graham
Okay, if you got concerns, here's what we can do as members of Congress. We can cut off funding for military operations we don't like. So if you're concerned as a Democrat or Republican, why don't you introduce legislation to cut off all funding to the military when it comes to attacking drug boats and going after narco terrorist states through the military? You can do that. Go ahead and do it. I'll vote no. I think it has all the authority in the world in Article 2 and international law, to make sure that countries like Venezuela can't be staging areas to infiltrate drugs into our country? I think he has all the legal authority in the world. I'm just really glad he's doing this. And Mr. President. Keep it up.
- [39:28]
Margaret
Well, we look forward to hearing those justifications when they are shared with Congress. You made some news there, Senator. Thank you for your time today.
- [39:35]
John C. Dvorak
What news did he make?
- [39:36]
Adam Curry
Make.
- [39:38]
John C. Dvorak
What news did he make there, Senator? I don't know what kind of news he made. And so Graham's everywhere.
- [39:46]
Adam Curry
Scott, I'm glad you're watching the morning. Actually, I didn't watch him this. I watch him probably every few weeks. I don't watch him every Sunday.
- [39:56]
John C. Dvorak
No, this is the work of Steve Jones. This is he.
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Adam Curry
Oh, he's watching and sending you this?
- [40:05]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah. If he's gonna do it, he'll let me know early on. Like, I'm up and running, I'm recording, and then I know I can count on it so I don't have to look at it myself. And I can do other things. So let's give credit where credit is due. And then Scott Besant, he's everywhere. It's like all the gay guys are out today.
- [40:25]
Margaret
The military has now launched 10 attacks, killing more than 40 people against these suspected drug smuggling boats. As usual, just referenced. Is the United States at war with Venezuela, Mr. Secretary.
- [40:41]
Adam Curry
You know. Wait, what Is Scott Besson, Secretary of Treasury? I thought it. Is he treasury or Treasury?
- [40:53]
John C. Dvorak
No, he's. No.
- [40:54]
Adam Curry
Okay. He's Treasury.
- [40:55]
John C. Dvorak
He's the money guy. He's the money. He's the bank.
- [40:57]
Adam Curry
So what's. What's he got to do with the military? Well, in other words, what I'm asking here is why is this pointed question being asked of the Secretary of the treasury who is responsible for printing $100 bills?
- [41:11]
John C. Dvorak
Well, because they just want to get to the bottom of this. These are journalists, John. This is Manhans Welker. She wants to get to the bottom of it.
- [41:20]
Margaret
Is the United States at war with Venezuela, Mr. Secretary?
- [41:24]
John C. Dvorak
Oh, don't answer that. Chris and Ivan, big portfolio.
- [41:30]
Adam Curry
The defense is not one of them.
- [41:33]
John C. Dvorak
I think you'd have to ask our great Secretary of War, Pete Hexith or.
- [41:38]
Adam Curry
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on that.
- [41:41]
John C. Dvorak
But you know, what I can tell.
- [41:42]
Adam Curry
You is President's committed to protecting U.S. citizens from the ravages of these drugs.
- [41:49]
John C. Dvorak
And also, you were asking earlier about the China trade deal, and part of that is going to include substantial, very substantial cooperation to stop the precursor drugs on fentanyl, which make their way to Mexico, to Canada, and kill hundreds of thousands of Americans a year and ruined families.
- [42:10]
Margaret
Well, and it's worth noting that the vast majority of fentanyl comes to the US From Mexico.
- [42:17]
John C. Dvorak
That's what he just said.
- [42:19]
Adam Curry
That's just what he says. She's not even listening to what he says.
- [42:23]
John C. Dvorak
So.
- [42:24]
Adam Curry
But first, you know, I've noticed, by the way, I have noticed this about her, and I've noticed this about a lot of these other guys. They have their little script in front of them, and the guy will say something that they. I don't know if they don't listen at all. And they'll ask that, like, almost ask the same question twice, because the guy will answer the question and, you know, a. Here's the answer to the question you're about to ask. If they happen to do that by accident, they'll still ask the question. It's very, very amateurish because that's what.
- [42:54]
John C. Dvorak
They'Re told to do. We're on a tight. Listen, we got to get the pharma ads in. Could you just ask. Question. And then. And so Bessant was everywhere this morning. Here he is with Margaret. And what. What is the pressing question we need to ask here?
- [43:07]
Margaret
The Paris prosecutor's office announced today that French police have made arrests, although we don't know how many, in last Sunday's robbery at the Louvre. One suspect was detained at the Charles de Gaulle airport as he tried to flee the country. Thieves stole an estimated $100 million worth of jewels and gems during a brazen daytime robbery that.
- [43:31]
John C. Dvorak
So that was the intro getting to Scott Besant and then straight into questions about. Well, I guess this is his wheelhouse about Russia and sanctions. And I don't. Do we want to go there? I don't know if we want to go there yet.
- [43:49]
Adam Curry
Well, if it. I don't know why you brought it in, but.
- [43:54]
John C. Dvorak
Well, because it was Scott Besant. You know, I don't know if we.
- [43:57]
Adam Curry
Yeah, okay. Well, Scott Besant was all over the place for some unknown reason.
- [44:00]
John C. Dvorak
Well, it's about Russia. Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia. And the sanctions.
- [44:06]
Margaret
Mr. Secretary, before I let you go, I want to ask you. The US Sanctioned Russia's top oil and gas companies this past week, but Vladimir Putin's envoy, who is here in the United States, Carol Dmitriev. I know you know him.
- [44:21]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah, I'm sorry. It was actually, I played him out of order. She had Besant on about China and Russia. China and Russia, basically. Let's do that later. It's boring. China and Russia. It's boring. Let's. Let's do the. This was. This was the real question. The TikTok deal. That's what really matters. This is what Margaret was doing all morning.
- [44:44]
Margaret
I saw that you mentioned TikTok was TikTok are the details of the President's executive order released in September. Are those finalized? Has China agreed to give up control of the algorithm that determines humans, what users see?
- [45:01]
John C. Dvorak
You're going to hear some really strange stuff here, particularly when we get to Molenar the Democrat.
- [45:11]
Adam Curry
I think.
- [45:13]
John C. Dvorak
They'Re all. They're so hung up on this algo, like, oh, you know, it's like censoring what people see. That's exactly what algorithms do. You can call it censoring, you can call it recommendations, but everyone's so hyper focused on the algo. And all the Algo does on TikTok is give you what you want. You want to see more cooking videos? You got cooking videos, though? You're John C. Dvorak. You want to see some lunatics with blue hair? Here you go. The algo is not that impressive, Margaret. We reached a final deal on TikTok. We reached one in Madrid Grid, and.
- [45:53]
Adam Curry
I believe that as of today, all.
- [45:55]
John C. Dvorak
The details are ironed out, and that will be for the two leaders to consummate that transaction on Thursday in Korea.
- [46:05]
Margaret
Can you tell us any details of that transaction?
- [46:08]
John C. Dvorak
Oh, don't tell her anything, Margaret. I'm not part of the commercial side of the transaction. My. My remit was to get the Chinese.
- [46:17]
Adam Curry
To agree to approve the transaction, and.
- [46:21]
John C. Dvorak
I believe we successfully accomplished that over the past two days.
- [46:25]
Adam Curry
Did he say it was my remit?
- [46:27]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah, I caught that, too. I'm going to use that with Tina. It was my remit.
- [46:33]
Adam Curry
Let's look it up.
- [46:35]
John C. Dvorak
Okay, let's look it up. Remit. You want. Do you want to use the. The robot?
- [46:40]
Adam Curry
Yeah, ask the robot for the definition.
- [46:42]
John C. Dvorak
Okay. Error. Or give me the definition of remit. Remit means to send money, forgive a.
- [46:53]
Margaret
Debt, or reduce a penalty. It can also refer to a task or area of responsibility, like someone's remit in a job.
- [47:00]
John C. Dvorak
Interesting.
- [47:01]
Adam Curry
Could have been his responsibility. It was my. So instead of saying it was my responsibility. Yeah, he said it was my remit.
- [47:08]
John C. Dvorak
But that's how they talk at the club.
- [47:11]
Adam Curry
So nobody, by the way. So let's stop right here for one. Just second for everybody out there. Nobody ever uses the term to remain responsibility in my lifetime. I've never heard this before. Well, so it's got to be code.
- [47:30]
John C. Dvorak
Well, it can also mean money, so.
- [47:33]
Adam Curry
It could be milieu.
- [47:34]
John C. Dvorak
Milieu? Well, there's a lot of milieu going on, that's for sure. There's a lot of milieu.
- [47:40]
Adam Curry
It was my remit.
- [47:41]
John C. Dvorak
Well, let's. And now let's Keep it.
- [47:43]
Adam Curry
Let's keep an eye out for being used.
- [47:45]
John C. Dvorak
Remit is on the radar. So let's talk about this TikTok deal with a guy who hates it on.
- [47:52]
Margaret
The committee work that you've been doing, I'm sure.
- [47:54]
John C. Dvorak
This is Representative John Moliner.
- [47:56]
Margaret
You heard from Treasury Secretary Besson at the top of the program that he says China has agreed to the TikTok deal. 170 million Americans use this social media app.
- [48:06]
Adam Curry
App.
- [48:07]
Margaret
Congress had passed a law to force.
- [48:10]
John C. Dvorak
Why is she laugh telling. Congress had passed. She's like a. Like a goat. What is that?
- [48:18]
Margaret
Congress had passed a law.
- [48:21]
Adam Curry
Yeah. Now she mentioned goat. That is like a goat.
- [48:25]
John C. Dvorak
That is. That is very strange. I don't know why she did that. Let's listen to that again.
- [48:30]
Margaret
Congress had passed a law to force the sale and cited it as a national security threat if it continued to operate the way it has. Have your national security concerns about the app and about this transaction been addressed?
- [48:50]
Adam Curry
Well, I think it's important that we note that the law requires a divestment and getting the Chinese Communist Party control away from the app as well as the algorithm. And it allows ownership only up to 20% for the Chinese entity, ByteDance. And to me it's very important that that's carried out. We don't know all the specifics of this, but we know that American companies are very interested in participating. There's the proposal for a lease agreement. But how you get that algorithm completely out of the Chinese control is going to be up to the experts. You know, there's 6 million pieces of code in this algorithm and we need to make sure that it's protected to the American people.
- [49:39]
John C. Dvorak
There's 6 million pieces of code to the algorithm. What does that even mean, bro? Does he mean 6 million lines of code? I mean, has someone counted them? Did they do a. A line count? WC L. I mean, what. What exactly happened here?
- [50:01]
Adam Curry
That.
- [50:02]
John C. Dvorak
That this whole thing is odd. And I think think whoever is buying this, mainly Ellison and Murdoch, I think it's coming up. They're buying a dog. They are buying.
- [50:13]
Adam Curry
They're buying eyeballs.
- [50:15]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah. But I think it's limited. I think the eyeballs would go down. It's dog.
- [50:19]
Margaret
So that algorithm is the data tracking system that's pulled from a user's.
- [50:23]
John C. Dvorak
No.
- [50:23]
Margaret
And so the accusation was also that.
- [50:27]
John C. Dvorak
The algorithm is not the data tracking system. That's what Facebook does with a little SDK in every single app.
- [50:35]
Margaret
Manipulating consumers.
- [50:37]
John C. Dvorak
Manipulating consumers unlike any other algorithm out there today from Silicon Valley in terms.
- [50:43]
Margaret
Of what they were able to see. So will that algorithm be maintained, and will upgrades only be conducted by, for example, American engineers?
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John C. Dvorak
Upgrades. I mean, this is really pathetic.
- [51:01]
Adam Curry
Yeah, it is pathetic.
- [51:02]
John C. Dvorak
It's really, really bad.
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Adam Curry
That would be my recommendation, because ultimately, we don't want a Chinese propaganda effort affecting 170 million Americans. We also want to make sure that data from Americans is kept secure. And as long as the Chinese are involved, I think there's reasons for distrust.
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Margaret
And Even with the 20% stake, I'm.
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Adam Curry
Still concerned about it, quite frankly. The Chinese. Please report to the Chinese Communist Party, and they will leverage every advantage they get. But the president has set a goal of making this available to the American people, following the law that was passed in a bipartisan way, and I trust that they are doing that.
- [51:47]
Margaret
The president has not been following the letter of the law that you voted for.
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Adam Curry
Well, I think you know that. I think the goal has been to come to an agreement, to come to a deal, and they've been working very hard to do that. But when you have the Chinese Communist Party Xi Jinping with direct leverage on this, in terms of what they will do, what they won't do, it's very difficult to continue to make that available. But I trust the people who are negotiating that recognize we've got to get the control of the algorithm away from the Chinese Communist Party, the app, and make sure that the ownership is controlled by America, not China.
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John C. Dvorak
Okay, so, first of all, apologies. He's a Republican representative from Michigan. He's a chemist, and that's why he serves on the House Committee on the Chinese Communist Party. So that's why he doesn't. Has no idea what he's talking about. Who is this Moliner? M. Moulinaire?
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Adam Curry
I thought it was Scott Besant.
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John C. Dvorak
No, no, no. We changed from Besant.
- [52:49]
Adam Curry
I didn't realize you'd done that. He sounds a lot like Besant. Mm.
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John C. Dvorak
I think he's married.
- [52:58]
Adam Curry
Oh. Oh, that makes a difference. Yeah.
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John C. Dvorak
He's not in the Besant Club. The A. Gays. Come on. We know this is a club. That's where you talk about remit. Hey, did you.
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Adam Curry
Was this the guy that said remit?
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John C. Dvorak
No, it was Besant who said remit.
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Adam Curry
Okay.
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John C. Dvorak
Yeah, I remit you. Oh, yeah, baby.
- [53:16]
Margaret
So let's talk about that ownership. The president said the investors would include Michael Dell, Lachlan Murdoch, whose family owns Fox News, and Larry Ellison, whose son owns Paramount. Paramount?
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John C. Dvorak
What kind of deal is that?
- [53:29]
Adam Curry
A bunch of Nepos.
- [53:31]
John C. Dvorak
Yes, but. But Nepos. But then to what? End. They're making. Are they going to make money off of it? How does. I don't know.
- [53:42]
Adam Curry
They're just fronts. This is. Come on, let's face it. This is bull crap. The whole thing is nonsense. Okay.
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Margaret
Company of CBS News. Do you have concerns that. That people who are boosters of the President will have ownership of social media in this way?
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Adam Curry
You know, I think since it's so powerful. Well, there are some, I'm sure, investors. Not everybody is simply a supporter of the President. But I believe that in this case, Congress has a role for oversight. And we will be meeting with the parties of transaction. We also will have hearings on this, because at the end.
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John C. Dvorak
Okay, you're right. I'm done with it, too. So, speaking of the Nepos and cbs, I came across an article that indeed shows. I'm looking for it here now, that Bari Weiss, that she is running, for all intents and purposes, CBS, 60 Minutes and her big get her big get out of the gate was the 60 Minutes interview with Witkoff and Kushner, which was one of the lowest rated 60 minutes in history, interestingly enough.
- [54:59]
Adam Curry
It was boring.
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John C. Dvorak
It was super boring. I just thought it was interesting.
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Adam Curry
But here's the way this works. Come on. Well, what's she gonna have us do, Bill? Oh, she wants us to interview these two guys. All right, well, make it as boring as you can. We gotta get some low numbers on this thing, so just make sure they edit it so they're long. Don't take anything out. Make it boring as hell. You can do it. You know how to do it.
- [55:27]
John C. Dvorak
Bring in Leslie Stahl. She'll make it super boring. Bring in Leslie.
- [55:31]
Adam Curry
Yeah, bring Leslie in half. She doesn't know what she's doing. She's old.
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John C. Dvorak
Wow. Ageist much?
- [55:38]
Adam Curry
Yeah, well, I'm. I'm old. I can say that.
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John C. Dvorak
Here's what's interesting. I got flack. I got flack aflac. I got flack from People People, because I pulled a clip from the very end which I thought was interesting to us because it was Witkoff saying, oh, yeah, no, we're do. We're. We're cleaning up Morocco as we speak. Which of course related to our investigation thesis. Yes, our thesis on the Gen Z discord system, which seems to be right on track. So we are the ones destabilizing Morocco on Discord and Gen Z with professional signs, I might add. And the. The pushback that I got, which is like. Are you kidding me? That's all you got from that interview? You didn't hear about the master plan. Like, the master plan. I mean, I watched the whole thing. It was boring. The master planned. They planned this to do this to Gaza. My Gaza, the Riviera. I'm like, okay, where did you get it from? So what did you watch? The whole thing? And so I. They send me a clip of Breaking Points with Sagar and Crystal Ball. And you were talking about milieu. These guys, they're completely independent now, aren't they? Milieu. They are completely independent. They. They're no longer with. Who are they worth. Who are they with?
- [57:10]
Adam Curry
They were with the Hill.
- [57:12]
John C. Dvorak
The Hill, right. So they broke off from the Hill. They're independent. And I think that they are in the same audience capture mode as many of the other podcasters, who we don't want to aim our weapon at because we don't want to shoot into the.
- [57:28]
Adam Curry
Oh, heaven forbid. Inside the tent. Because I think even though they're hardly podcasters, by any means.
- [57:37]
John C. Dvorak
They are now. They're considered podcasters.
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Adam Curry
Yeah, well, they had. Yeah, they're typical people that were in the mainstream doing mainstream stuff. Mainstream work for a mainstream publication, for an M5M operation. They were. They were. And they had a video segment just like everybody. Just like pbs, no difference. And then they got. They decided they could make more money doing a podcast and then found out that they probably couldn't.
- [58:04]
John C. Dvorak
Well, I think they're actually doing okay.
- [58:06]
Adam Curry
I'm sure they are. I'm sure they're doing better now, but at the beginning, I don't think they were.
- [58:10]
John C. Dvorak
But I believe that they are a very prime example of people who are afraid to. And this is, you know, like Scott Adams would say, one movie, two screens. They view everything as crystal ball, Specifically Israel. They're genociding people. They're genociding. They're just slaughtering. They just want to kill the Gazans.
- [58:31]
Adam Curry
Kill.
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John C. Dvorak
Kill the slaughter. They can't get out of that mode. And so this is the clip that I was saying.
- [58:36]
Margaret
You know, interestingly, people just caught this. I didn't know this from the 60 Minutes interview with Kushner and Witkoff originally, but in that interview. And this is gonna be D0 guys. Witkoff talks.
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John C. Dvorak
It's gonna be D0 guys. Imagine you telling me.
- [58:53]
Adam Curry
I don't even know what that means.
- [58:55]
John C. Dvorak
That's their internal code for which clip to play, where you just say, look for the misspelling of, you know, look for nps. And that will be N. This is too professional.
- [59:05]
Margaret
And it's going to be D0 guys.
- [59:07]
Adam Curry
Okay, guys.
- [59:08]
Margaret
Witkoff talks about how they've been.
- [59:10]
Adam Curry
Yes, block D0. They don't. It's not like the one. The D1 block.
- [59:15]
John C. Dvorak
Or let's.
- [59:16]
Adam Curry
Or the B, C, D, A, E, F, G block.
- [59:18]
John C. Dvorak
I mean, okay, let's not focus too much on that. Let's.
- [59:23]
Adam Curry
You brought it up, and it's irksome.
- [59:25]
John C. Dvorak
Let's just focus on the media.
- [59:27]
Margaret
And it's going to be D0, guys. Witkoff talks about how they've been developing this quote, unquote, master plan for two years. And Jared Kushner gets a very uncomfortable look on his face when Witkoff uses that language. Let's go ahead and take a look at that. Part of the plan is the reconstruction, the building rebuilding of Gaza. And you're builders, you've been in real estate. As you said, it's extremely complex. Tell us more about the plan and how much it's going to cost. Where's the money going to come from and who's going to award the contracts? Three questions.
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Adam Curry
I think it's going to cost a lot of money.
- [60:10]
Margaret
What's a lot of money?
- [60:12]
Adam Curry
You know, the estimates are in the $50 billion range. It might be a little bit less, it might be a little bit more. I happen to think that that's not a lot of money in that region. You have governments that are going to jump on in, and so the Middle.
- [60:25]
Margaret
East countries are going to provide the money.
- [60:29]
Adam Curry
You'll see European participation and so forth.
- [60:32]
John C. Dvorak
Which is. That is actually interesting because we heard Ursula, Queen Ursula, say the Middle east, there are brothers and sisters. We are so. Yes. So they already know that money's coming from the eu.
- [60:44]
Adam Curry
I think the beginning of this plan is how to get it going. And that's what me and what me.
- [60:51]
John C. Dvorak
And Jared work on all the time. The money raising, we think, is the easy part.
- [60:55]
Adam Curry
We think that happens relatively quickly. But it's the master plan.
- [61:00]
John C. Dvorak
And we're working with a group of.
- [61:01]
Adam Curry
People who have been working on master plans for the last two years.
- [61:07]
Margaret
So there are plans already.
- [61:08]
John C. Dvorak
We have plans already.
- [61:09]
Adam Curry
We have a master plan already. And by the way, and Jared's been pushing this and we're working together on.
- [61:14]
John C. Dvorak
It, and I think if the world saw the progress so far, they'd be pretty impressed.
- [61:19]
Margaret
So Witkoff says they've been working on a master plan for two years now.
- [61:23]
John C. Dvorak
So they got really hung up on the master plan. And here's their deconstruction of the master plan. Yeah, this is the master plan. And this is basically the West Bankification.
- [61:33]
Adam Curry
They still have control, all of this falls apart. It's really hard to take it seriously because it's just.
- [61:39]
John C. Dvorak
It's fake.
- [61:39]
Adam Curry
I mean, look at the comments from the finance minister about Saudi Arabia.
- [61:43]
Margaret
Who do you think the people would.
- [61:44]
Adam Curry
Be responsible for quote, unquote, disarming? Hamas would be. It would be the UAE, Saudi Arabia, the U.S. jD and Trump both say no U.S. troops will ever set foot.
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John C. Dvorak
On the ground in Gaza.
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Senator Lindsey Graham
Great.
- [61:55]
John C. Dvorak
I mean, honestly, I support that.
- [61:57]
Adam Curry
But eventually, somebody's troops have got to.
- [61:59]
John C. Dvorak
Set foot on the ground to have political administration.
- [62:02]
Adam Curry
Their plan is like some phase rollout where they'll just encroach space by space.
- [62:06]
John C. Dvorak
Hamas will be allowed, and then they'll.
- [62:08]
Adam Curry
Slowly de Hamasify it.
- [62:10]
John C. Dvorak
How.
- [62:10]
Adam Curry
How do you do that? Like, what does that look like? At a certain point, it's all just.
- [62:16]
John C. Dvorak
Recreating the same dynamic as Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan.
- [62:19]
Adam Curry
These people have no actual plan. In the absence, chaos will reign. Israel will continue to shoot and to kill and eventually some sort of mass attack or whatever. Either Hamas will do, maybe Israel will do. We'll see. And then we'll be right back to where things were.
- [62:35]
John C. Dvorak
That seems like the modal outcome at this point. I don't really see another way that it could go.
- [62:39]
Adam Curry
Now.
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John C. Dvorak
I was, I'm like, wow, that's all you can take from that is, is they're gonna demonize, they're gonna get back to killing. They're gonna be killing because the Jews.
- [62:50]
Adam Curry
Like to kill people. They kill, kill, kill, kill.
- [62:53]
John C. Dvorak
And it's so disingenuous because they actually didn't play what came right after that in interview. As you notice, there were three questions. The third question is who's. Who's going to be paying for it? And it was Witkoff who brought that in. And as I'm listening to it, I had a different takeaway from this.
- [63:13]
Adam Curry
I think if the world saw the progress.
- [63:15]
John C. Dvorak
So pretty impressed. So basically, over the last couple years, there's been a lot of organizations that have been trying to determine what happens after the war. What's clear right now is we're very much focused on the humanitarian and the.
- [63:29]
Adam Curry
Deconfliction to make sure that the aid can get to the people and deconfliction.
- [63:33]
Margaret
Because there's still shooting over there.
- [63:36]
Adam Curry
Yeah.
- [63:36]
John C. Dvorak
So you have to make sure that we're dealing with both sides and sending messages so that you don't let embers become little fires that become forest fires. So we're working on deconfliction, humanitarian aid.
- [63:46]
Margaret
Right now you have Gazans trying to go home they're trying to go back to where they lived before. They're going back to where the rubble is and putting a tent down.
- [63:58]
Adam Curry
Correct, correct.
- [63:59]
John C. Dvorak
And by the way, and it's rough.
- [64:00]
Adam Curry
There because it's not just rubble. It's a lot of unexploded munitions all over the field. And as to your question, Les, who's going to award contracts? The answer is there's a Board of.
- [64:12]
John C. Dvorak
Peace, and we're going to be very.
- [64:14]
Adam Curry
Very focused and fastidious about having the best talent there. We're already talking to contractors from all of the Middle Eastern countries because we think there has to be support from them and they know the market in the best way.
- [64:28]
Margaret
Will it be transparent?
- [64:30]
Adam Curry
Everything's transparent that we do. Yes. You can't replace a corrupt government with another corrupt government.
- [64:36]
John C. Dvorak
Okay, so they didn't play that piece. And the people who sent me this didn't see that piece.
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Adam Curry
Of course not. I'm glad you got all worked up about some nasty note, but wait for it. And by the way, did you notice that Leslie said Gazans instead of Palestinians?
- [64:49]
John C. Dvorak
Oh, yeah. Oh, that's. That's in the style guide. New. That's. They've changed that.
- [64:52]
Adam Curry
They've obviously changed it to Gazans.
- [64:54]
John C. Dvorak
But my point is that the European Union is going to be involved. Blair is the Chairman of the Board of Peace. So this seems like a gigantic setup to screw those guys if it goes wrong. Like, well, Blair, Queen, Ursula, you guys were. You're a big part of this. But when, as I reflected upon. I'm very happy that these people got mad at me and sent me this, because the thing that I kept thinking is they had this master plan two years ago. So today is October 26th. That means that 19 days after October 7th, two years ago, they started on the master plan. That seems a little tight to me.
- [65:43]
Adam Curry
And when you just say two years, it could be longer. It could have been before.
- [65:49]
John C. Dvorak
Before October 7th.
- [65:51]
Adam Curry
It could have been. The whole thing could be part of a giant scheme.
- [65:54]
John C. Dvorak
That's what I'm thinking. I'm thinking the Arabs set this up. Up, probably with Israel. Like, you know what?
- [66:04]
Adam Curry
Well, that thesis about the Israelis being so cavalier on that day, they didn't have anybody around. And the fact has never gone away.
- [66:15]
John C. Dvorak
And the fact that they filmed everything, because that was kind of new. All the GoPros, the flying GoPros. I don't think that they intended for so many people to get killed. Maybe they did. I don't know. I think, as we've heard from our Boots on the ground. Death is a very different concept in the Middle East. It's not quite the same as we have. For some reason, that whole thing sounds like a scam that was set up with Israel and the Arab nations to change this. And the Arab nations are going. They're the ones that are going to be putting the money in. They're the ones with Indonesia who are going to be protecting it. Bring the Europeans in. This is, you know, tag, you're it. I don't think we're going to have any involvement.
- [67:05]
Adam Curry
Well, let's hope so.
- [67:06]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah. No, I'm with you on that. But all the. All. Oh, another war. American boots on the ground. I don't think so. I really don't think so. We'll see. So anyway, keep sending me that stuff. I like it. Keep sending me that stuff.
- [67:26]
Adam Curry
What's that? Same one guy?
- [67:28]
John C. Dvorak
No, no, it was a couple, actually. It was a couple. I'll pause for a moment if you want to do something here.
- [67:38]
Adam Curry
Well, since we're doing our famous anniversary show, we played some measles stuff recently. I ran into because I wanted to play these on the show when we talked about measles and the fear monger. And so I got a couple of clips. These are the clips we ran in 20. This is 2015. These are from the law and order show in 2015. It's 10 years ago when they were having measles. Does have a. I was looking up at the death rates because worldwide death rates hovers around. It could be hovers around maybe 100,000 under five children a year worldwide. But that number is based on a computer model.
- [68:30]
John C. Dvorak
Computer.
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Adam Curry
And so we don't really know what it is because we make light of the disease with that with the Brady Bunch of the Brady Bunny. Brady Bunch. But they decided to do counter programming. And here's two clips from Law and Order on measles. This is history. Clip number one.
- [68:51]
Margaret
What did my neighbors call you? Why would they do that? Because they're upset at the choices I've.
- [68:56]
Adam Curry
Made for my family. Like not vaccinating your son. I won't put my son at risk.
- [69:01]
Margaret
Because Big Pharma and their lackeys in the media try and jam vaccination down our throats.
- [69:06]
Adam Curry
Even if that puts him at risk.
- [69:08]
Margaret
What risk? He had measles two weeks ago and.
- [69:11]
Adam Curry
The immune system he was born with.
- [69:12]
Margaret
Kicked in and now he's fine. Well, Sierra Walker isn't fine. She's dead. After being infected by your son.
- [69:19]
John C. Dvorak
By the way, 10 years ago when we Spoke about these things. This is nonsense. Or, you know, a tad overdone. There was a lot. Before COVID There was a lot more pushback about vaccines. People were like, you guys are anti vaxxers.
- [69:37]
Adam Curry
Yes. That's interesting. You're right. When the. Yeah, when. During the era where you had to argue about being a vaccine skeptic versus a anti vaxxer. You're right. The pushback was. Was enormous. It was the COVID bull crab shot, which isn't even a vaccine. The MRNA shot that. That changed everything in terms of attitudes.
- [70:02]
John C. Dvorak
Yes.
- [70:03]
Adam Curry
And so. But did. We had. But the drama was good. This is another example from. I believe this. From this. There's two shows they did on measles. One was in 2009 and was in 2015. And this I believe from the second show. Sierra Walker's death wasn't a homicide.
- [70:18]
Margaret
She was just dug out of a shallow grave. She didn't fall in there playing hopscotch.
- [70:21]
Adam Curry
Well, whoever put her in there didn't kill her.
- [70:23]
John C. Dvorak
Encephalitis did. Swelling of the brain brought on by measles. Are you sure it's measles?
- [70:29]
Margaret
No signs of abuse or neglect.
- [70:31]
Adam Curry
No bruises or abrasions.
- [70:32]
John C. Dvorak
Lesions either. Her teeth weren't in great shape, but mostly from a diet high in sugars.
- [70:36]
Margaret
That's it.
- [70:37]
Adam Curry
But measles, how does that happen this day and age?
- [70:40]
Margaret
She wasn't vaccinated.
- [70:42]
John C. Dvorak
She wasn't vaccinated.
- [70:44]
Adam Curry
Wow.
- [70:46]
John C. Dvorak
You know, like two people. Came to an interesting conclusion because I played a clip. Clips from ER and from the Pit. So now we've spawned the whole. The whole, you know, a generation of this. This kind of propaganda. The doctor in both of those clips in the pit was Dr. Robbie. In ER, it was Dr. Carter. Both played by the same actor, Noah Weil.
- [71:13]
Adam Curry
Yeah, that's well known.
- [71:15]
John C. Dvorak
But I didn't know that the Pit.
- [71:17]
Adam Curry
Was a takeoff of the er. It was designed on it.
- [71:21]
John C. Dvorak
So did. Did they just. Is this how the casting went? Like, that guy was so good with the propaganda. Let's bring him in again. He really. He really brought the message home.
- [71:31]
Adam Curry
He was, I think, maybe part of the production team that. That brought it to light. So it's a very famous show.
- [71:39]
John C. Dvorak
Yes.
- [71:40]
Adam Curry
I have not watched a whole episode of it. I don't find it interesting. I wasn't a big ER fan either.
- [71:47]
John C. Dvorak
Oh, Clooney.
- [71:48]
Adam Curry
It's over dramatized. Okay, so here we go. This is 2018. Now we move way up. And this is what was going on in Washington State.
- [71:57]
John C. Dvorak
In Washington state, as the number of measles cases grows. Worries are growing too. At one hospital, security guards are staking out each entrance, screening visitors for symptoms of the virus, which can be deadly.
- [72:09]
Margaret
We're taking a lot of precautions to.
- [72:10]
John C. Dvorak
Prevent anyone from entering with any signs.
- [72:13]
Margaret
And symptoms of measles.
- [72:14]
John C. Dvorak
The State now has 50 confirmed cases, 49 of them in Clark county. The outbreak epicenter. Health officials say only one of those patients had been vaccinated for measles. Measles is the worst of it over yet. I don't know if the worst of it is over because we still have cases coming in. Beyond Washington, measles has surfaced in at least eight other states this year, including New York, with more than 200 cases reported. The virus is highly contagious, spreads through coughing and sneezing, and can linger in a room for up to two hours. Health officials say Clark county has one of the lowest vaccination rates in the state. Nearly a quarter of all public schools students there are not fully vaccinated. We don't have to be going through this. We have an incredibly safe, cheap and effective vaccine. Two doses of vaccine are 97% effective.
- [73:00]
Adam Curry
Those who think they might have measles are urged to call their doctor first.
- [73:04]
John C. Dvorak
Don't just show up unannounced.
- [73:06]
Adam Curry
Health officials worry that could expose others.
- [73:09]
John C. Dvorak
Who are in the waiting room.
- [73:10]
Adam Curry
Lester, you know, wait, wait. Did you notice the meme in there has changed. This is the early days of Obamacare, or even before it was passed. I think it was 2018. Obamacare, which has managed to. The Affordable Care act has managed to make things so unaffordable that the Democrats are freaked out about not getting some subsidies in so we can help pay for it. It's gotten outrageously expensive. The safe and effective meme was in there, but it wasn't safe and effective.
- [73:46]
John C. Dvorak
What was it?
- [73:47]
Adam Curry
Safe, cheap and effective.
- [73:52]
John C. Dvorak
My house.
- [73:53]
Adam Curry
You can't say that anymore.
- [73:54]
John C. Dvorak
You can't, you can't. I wonder what it costs these days.
- [73:58]
Adam Curry
Well, they jack the prices up. This is reminds me of prices of just general. Drugs have gone up 10x just because they can get the money, because the insurance companies can. You know, they're in part in the business. They're in the business of selling the stuff. They're middle. The whole thing is falling apart.
- [74:17]
John C. Dvorak
I'm looking for the price MMR. Okay, yeah.
- [74:22]
Adam Curry
The retail price of the MRNA vaccine.
- [74:26]
John C. Dvorak
No, the MMR, not.
- [74:28]
Adam Curry
Oh, the MMR. Yeah.
- [74:30]
John C. Dvorak
Okay, yeah, $97. Yeah, but it used to be 26.
- [74:36]
Adam Curry
Yeah. What changed?
- [74:39]
John C. Dvorak
Insurance.
- [74:39]
Adam Curry
What changed?
- [74:40]
John C. Dvorak
So called Insurance.
- [74:42]
Adam Curry
Yeah, exactly.
- [74:43]
John C. Dvorak
Obamacare, which is the worst. The health marketplace. It's the worst.
- [74:48]
Adam Curry
Yeah. It's anything but affordable. This should be the anything but affordable Healthcare Act.
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John C. Dvorak
Yes, I will again shill for our producers. You can join many different programs. Tina is on crowd health and she pays, I think, $200 a month.
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Adam Curry
Month.
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John C. Dvorak
And then when something happens, and this is from someone getting pregnant to someone with cancer, then the whole system chips in and it gets paid for. They negotiate. The price is down for you. Everything's all done. It's beautiful. Tinaurry.com she'll help you out. She'll give you a discount code. Bongino.
- [75:31]
Adam Curry
Yeah.
- [75:33]
John C. Dvorak
Bongino. Just while we're on Big Pharma, I got a. You know, as I kind of expected. Wow. We got a lot of people about that, about. What was the name of it? Sublocade. Remember we talked about in the last show, Sublocade?
- [75:52]
Adam Curry
Yeah, I remember, vaguely.
- [75:54]
John C. Dvorak
Wow. So we have a lot of people of experience with that. And, you know, I put like three or four boots on the ground reports in the there. And it has helped many people, but every single one of them says, oh, dude, this is 80 to 100 times stronger than morphine. And in essence, it's. If you. If you. If you don't add, you know, therapy in there to figure out what's wrong, why. Why you. You know, the actual addiction, they will just keep on shooting this into you forever. And it's really. It's changing you out for opioid addiction to this stuff.
- [76:35]
Adam Curry
Yeah, it's very addictive, and it's very. And you can't get high on it.
- [76:41]
John C. Dvorak
No one. It's funny if no one, really.
- [76:43]
Adam Curry
I got a note from a guy whose sister was. Is an addict. I can find the note and read it, but I can just summarize. And she went on, if you're already addicted, it. It doesn't get you high, but if you're not addicted, it gets you high. So when it gets you off your addiction, it gets you high. And so she got on this stuff and just started getting extra prescriptions for it and was using it as her. As her way of getting high.
- [77:09]
John C. Dvorak
I love our producers.
- [77:10]
Adam Curry
A bad product.
- [77:11]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah. I love our producers, though. Like. Oh, yeah, yeah. I was a druggie. Let me tell you what. Didn't give my experience.
- [77:16]
Adam Curry
And.
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John C. Dvorak
And every single one of them, though, is clean. I love that. Congratulations to all them of. Of you. That. But not necessarily from Sublocade. You know, they had other influence.
- [77:29]
Adam Curry
She's a listener, but. And she's not clean. And he wanted to call her out as a douchebag.
- [77:33]
John C. Dvorak
Well, I'm not gonna show. Hey, you know what? Get off the drugs, yo.
- [77:39]
Adam Curry
What's horrible?
- [77:43]
John C. Dvorak
But we do have the best podcast producers in the universe. Oh, yeah, we definitely do. Definitely do. Another thing this, another amazing thing has happened is peanut allergies have dropped off a cliff. This was something else that we were noticing throughout the early days of the show. And I think it didn't it kind of start around the same time when, oh, peanut allergies. And we were. I know I was complaining no peanuts on the flight because someone was allergic to peanuts. You remember the.
- [78:15]
Adam Curry
This. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
- [78:16]
John C. Dvorak
So that all of a sudden is dropped off a cliff by some amazing advice.
- [78:21]
Margaret
8 year old Jack Ravner used to be allergic to peanuts.
- [78:24]
Adam Curry
It's a little stressful.
- [78:26]
Margaret
Mom says his allergy is gone now.
- [78:28]
Adam Curry
After being slowly exposed.
- [78:30]
Margaret
New research says there are fewer children like Jake. Since 2017, peanut allergies in young children have dropped 43%.
- [78:38]
Adam Curry
We looked at medical records from 50 different pediatrics practices in multiple states.
- [78:44]
Margaret
Dr. David Hill led the study at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia that looked at allergies to things like milk, eggs, and nuts.
- [78:51]
Adam Curry
For decades, those were the foods parents.
- [78:53]
Margaret
Were told to avoid giving babies. But that changed in 2015.
- [78:57]
Adam Curry
The updated recommendation said the opposite.
- [79:00]
Margaret
Babies should be exposed to tiny amounts.
- [79:03]
Adam Curry
What our research showed is that, in fact, providing these foods early is a way to train the immune system, that the foods themselves are safe.
- [79:12]
John C. Dvorak
A total game changer.
- [79:13]
Margaret
Jake's mom, Dr. Lisa Ravner, is a pediatrician who's seeing a decline in kids with peanut allergies because of the revised recommendation. And as a pediatrician, your advice to parents has changed? Oh, yeah, completely. There's a lot of education that goes.
- [79:29]
Adam Curry
Into it around that this is safe to do. Since the updated recommendations, about 60,000 children.
- [79:35]
Margaret
Have avoided developing peanut allergies.
- [79:37]
Adam Curry
According to the new research, we've been able to implement what I think is one of the most important public health interventions in allergy.
- [79:45]
Margaret
Now there are a growing number of children like Jake who can enjoy foods.
- [79:50]
Adam Curry
Without the worry of allergic reactions.
- [79:52]
John C. Dvorak
I just thought that was phenomenal.
- [79:54]
Adam Curry
Well, do you remember the clip we played about Kennedy and aluminum?
- [79:59]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah. Oh, you're right.
- [80:02]
Adam Curry
And you don't notice that the same drop off in peanut allergies ended when a lot of parents won't give their kids hepatitis B vaccine, which is the one that's got the aluminum in it.
- [80:13]
John C. Dvorak
Hold on, hold on a second. Was that let's play that clip again. Yes, I have it here. Here's something that people should know. So what you're saying is they are now pumping this story and saying, well, it's because of the changes that we had, but really, it was because of the removal of aluminum.
- [80:33]
Adam Curry
Well, they didn't take aluminum out of anything. But aluminum is an adjuvant, is used in the hepatitis B vaccine. And because of COVID as you mentioned earlier, people are more vaccine hesitant. And they're not giving their kids a stupid hepatitis B vaccine when they're a little baby, when they can get. When peanuts can be involved, or they have some milk at the same time, and they pick up these crazy allergies. The allergies are dropping off naturally, is.
- [81:01]
John C. Dvorak
That aluminum provokes an allergic response, and.
- [81:05]
Adam Curry
That'S why it's valuable.
- [81:07]
John C. Dvorak
So if you put the aluminum in with the viral antigen, your body now mounts an allergic response to that viral antigen, whether it's polio or hepatitis B.
- [81:18]
Adam Curry
Or the, you know, HPV or whatever.
- [81:21]
John C. Dvorak
But what we now know, the science suggests, is that the aluminum also creates allergic responses to anything that's in the ambient environment. If you have a peanut oil excipient in that vaccine and you put aluminum in it, you could have a lifetime allergy to peanuts. If there is a Timothy weed outbreak, the week that you get that aluminum vaccine, you now may have a lifetime.
- [81:52]
Adam Curry
Allergy to Timothy weed.
- [81:53]
John C. Dvorak
And that's why probably there's two studies by Moss and Cowlings. Wow.
- [81:59]
Margaret
Wow.
- [82:00]
John C. Dvorak
So. So really, Covid? So President Trump is really right. He saved all these people from all this nonsense by making them afraid of vaccines. He's done a great job with his.
- [82:11]
Adam Curry
Warp speed, although he doesn't really. I don't believe he knows this.
- [82:14]
John C. Dvorak
I don't think so either.
- [82:15]
Adam Curry
He's a natural.
- [82:19]
John C. Dvorak
Wow. Yeah. Interesting how that works.
- [82:24]
Adam Curry
Yeah. And that's hepatitis B vaccine for a baby is stupid.
- [82:29]
John C. Dvorak
It is stupid. Of course.
- [82:31]
Adam Curry
Hey, Abrego Garcia's back in the news.
- [82:34]
John C. Dvorak
Oh, wow. Where's he going to this time?
- [82:37]
Adam Curry
Well, they still don't know.
- [82:38]
John C. Dvorak
Let's find out.
- [82:39]
Adam Curry
The Justice Department says it now wants.
- [82:41]
John C. Dvorak
To deport Kilmar Abrego Garcia to the African nation of Liberia. But as NPR's Martin Costi reports, his lawyers say it's an unacceptable option. A Judge ruled in 2019 that although Abrego Garcia was in the US illegally, he shouldn't be sent back to El.
- [82:57]
Adam Curry
Salvador because of dangers he'd face there.
- [82:59]
John C. Dvorak
The Trump administration deported him there anyway.
- [83:02]
Adam Curry
It says by mistake.
- [83:03]
John C. Dvorak
And he was returned to the US In June. Now his lawyer, Simon Sandoval Moshenburg, says Costa Rica could take a break of Garcia, but the administration keeps insisting on sending him farther away. They are using the selection of the country of removal as a means of punishing him. In its court filing, the Justice Department calls Liberia a thriving democracy which provides countries, quote, robust protections for human rights. But it doesn't say whether Liberia has promised not to send Abrego Garcia on to El Salvador. El Salvador is pretty good these days. I mean, not the jail, but. No, a lot of people, all the bitcoiners are going to El Salvador. The bitcoiners, man, they love because they.
- [83:48]
Adam Curry
Use it as a currency.
- [83:49]
John C. Dvorak
Yes. El Zondo Beach. They're building houses and all kinds. It's the only two hour flight from Texas. It's not that far.
- [83:56]
Adam Curry
Let's talk a little bit about Arctic Frost.
- [84:00]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah, I heard there were more documents that came out.
- [84:03]
Adam Curry
There's a lot of stuff coming out. Nothing's being done about it. Here's Kennedy.
- [84:06]
John C. Dvorak
Well, hold on a second. I'm going to disagree with you because, yes, we know that the Republicans are not going to do anything about nothing.
- [84:16]
Adam Curry
That's right.
- [84:17]
John C. Dvorak
But this is a Department of justice case. And Pam Bondi, I don't think she has any affiliations other than with. With emptiness. And I think something may come out of this. I really do.
- [84:31]
Adam Curry
You're an optimist at some. It's funny, you're generally not an optimist. And there's a word for that and for some reason, pessimist. A pessimist, that's it. Yes, you're a pessimist normally, but you become optimistic about stuff that will always disappoint. This is why. Why? Because they. You'll always be disappointed because it never happens.
- [84:55]
John C. Dvorak
We'll see.
- [84:56]
Adam Curry
I mean, hey, this is the Benny Johnson Show. You know Benny Johnson?
- [84:59]
John C. Dvorak
Yes, yes, we know Benny Johnson. Big friend of Charlie Kirk, I hear.
- [85:03]
Adam Curry
Yeah, that's what he says. So here, here's Kennedy was on the Benny Johnson show talking about Arctic Frost. Watched Attorney General Merritt Garland make the decision to prosecute a former President of the United States on legal grounds that were iffy at best, who also happened to be the Attorney General's boss's chief opponent in an election. The press calls it lawfare. It's just weaponization by your justice system. That's not supposed to happen in America. That happens in countries whose powerball jackpot is 287 chickens and a gun goat. It doesn't happen. In America. And that wasn't the only instance of all fair. Ms. James in New York, the district attorney in Georgia, Jack Smith. And it wasn't just directed at President Trump. It was directed at anybody who supported him. It was directed at many, many, many Republicans. Today we found out from Senator Grass, lastly, that Judge just Attorney General Garland and FBI Director Chris Wray authorized the subpoenas to get the phone records of the United States Senators. I've got to tell you, I was shocked at that. I just assumed this was Jack Smith going disco without telling anybody. But it was signed by off by people at the very top. Now, I don't know what's going to happen criminally. I know the attorney general and the FBI is looking at it. I can tell you what's going to happen. Suddenly the Justice Department is going to get sued by these senators and by everybody who was, who was wronged. Merrick Garland's going to get sued. Chris Wray is going to get sued. The telecommunication companies, the telephone companies, companies that turned over these records are going to get sued. There's something called a rule of law in America.
- [87:11]
John C. Dvorak
Well, Kennedy's involved man now, you know something's going to happen.
- [87:15]
Adam Curry
Oh well, yeah, they're going to be a lot of civil lawsuits going to have nothing to do with the Republicans. You're going to be got to do it. You're on your own. Here's part two. How are you supposed to conduct business? How is any senator supposed to do their job job if the wrong Justice Department can just illegally spy on everything that you're doing? Isn't this worse than Watergate? Well, sure. Getting there if it's not there yet. And it's not just Ben, it's not just the U.S. senators. They did this to 92 organizations. They did it to Turning Point. They did it to apparently everybody they thought was a political enemy of President Biden or that they just didn't agree agree with politically. And, and what has surprised me today, it's really disappointed me is that that, that the Attorney General of the United States, Judge Garland, Justice Garland, Judge Garland, almost a Justice, signed off on this. And apparently, at least according to Senator Grassley and this whistleblower, so the director of the FBI, Chris Wright, and I never wanted to believe, I really thought this was all Jack Smith just being a cowboy, but apparently everybody signed off on it. And I can tell you if, if the attorney general signed off on it and the FBI director signed off on it, President Biden signed off on it, you think an attorney general is going to do something like this. You think an Attorney General is going to prosecute a former President of the United States States who also happened to be, happens to be his boss's political opponent without telling the President of the United States who appointed him Dream Weaver. If you believe that, you're going. You believe in the tooth fairy, you believe in the Easter bunny.
- [89:09]
John C. Dvorak
Dream? Hello, 1971 reference. Nice. Hello, Dream weave.
- [89:18]
Adam Curry
The media is not having any fun with this at all.
- [89:22]
John C. Dvorak
No, it's made for us. I think he has one.
- [89:25]
Adam Curry
Yeah, well, definitely, because they, you know, is wide open. You can just, you know, it's like, it's like low hanging fruit basically that the mainstream media won't touch. They're just such in the pockets of the Democrats, it's, it's an embarrassment.
- [89:38]
John C. Dvorak
Well, not just Democrats, the criminals, just criminals. North Sea criminals. North Sea Nexus, baby. I'm telling you, telling you. Okay, well, can I, can I take a climate change angle on Arctic frost?
- [89:51]
Adam Curry
Ooh, yeah, it's a stretch, but go.
- [89:54]
John C. Dvorak
Here we go. The blob is back.
- [89:56]
Margaret
Do you remember the Brutal winter of 2013-2014? 23 nights with temperatures below zero and snow falling every other day for months.
- [90:04]
John C. Dvorak
Well, we're sorry to tell you there.
- [90:06]
Adam Curry
Is a reason this winter could be similar.
- [90:08]
John C. Dvorak
First alert meteorologist David Yeomans tracks how something happening thousands of miles away could.
- [90:13]
Adam Curry
Impact our winter weather. It's called the Blob, or sometimes the warm blob. And basically it's just an ocean heat wave up in the North Pacific this August. NOAA says that water temperatures in this area shattered records reaching 68 degrees for the first time ever observed. And studies show, yes, this is linked to climate change. Now, since the ocean and the atmosphere work so closely together, Record warm ocean.
- [90:38]
John C. Dvorak
Do they have desks next to each other?
- [90:41]
Adam Curry
The ocean, they're in the same office? Yes. Adjoining desks are bumped up against each other.
- [90:47]
John C. Dvorak
We're going to have unbelievable cold winter in Chicago. But don't worry, it's climate change because of the heat change.
- [90:54]
Adam Curry
Now, since the ocean and the atmosphere work so closely together, record warm ocean temperatures like this have a of bit.
- [91:01]
Senator Lindsey Graham
Impact on weather patterns.
- [91:02]
Adam Curry
The Blob leads to a big area of high pressure and a bump northward in the jet stream or the storm track. This is where it gets important for us. The jet stream bump there causes a corresponding dip in the jet stream farther east. This dip can cut the US in half, keeping the west warm and dry while driving arctic air and massive snowfall events into the Chicago area and Great Lakes. It's this. That was a driving factor in Chicago's third coldest and third snowiest winter on record. The winter of 2013 to 2014.
- [91:36]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah. Coincidentally, it's about 11 years. You know, 11 years is the cycle of the sunspots. But let's not look at that. Let's not look at that. No, no, no.
- [91:47]
Adam Curry
In fact, if you haven't noticed, it would be interesting. I'm going to do an N gram search on sunspots because they've not been discussed at all. Well, every ham radio to discuss sunspots.
- [92:00]
John C. Dvorak
No, of course not. Ham guys know it. We depend on. On the. The solar activity for skip.
- [92:08]
Adam Curry
Yeah, you got to get that bounce.
- [92:11]
John C. Dvorak
When's the last time you bounced off the ionosphere? Come on, be honest. That your, your rig is in the desk next to you in the drawer next to your phone.
- [92:19]
Adam Curry
It's in the drawer. Yeah.
- [92:21]
John C. Dvorak
Nothing going on with no bounce.
- [92:22]
Adam Curry
Bounce.
- [92:22]
John C. Dvorak
No bouncing for you. Well, I'm kind of waiting on you because I have a couple of North Sea Nexus things to do, but I want to make sure.
- [92:33]
Adam Curry
Well, okay, I got some screwball clips. Let's play these. This is a TikTok clip. And this is explaining why Trump has taken down the East Wing. This is the real reason.
- [92:43]
Margaret
It's not about the ballroom. He's secretly building a state of the art bunker where the old one is. He's planning on staying in power for.
- [92:51]
Adam Curry
The rest of his life. That's why he didn't go through the proper channels.
- [92:55]
Margaret
He's trying to create an emergency before the midterms so there will be no voting and he and his regime will stay in power. And where are those people who fought to keep statues up to preserve history?
- [93:07]
John C. Dvorak
Oh, man. This is the same thing we were saying about Obama when He built his $300 million basketball court. Court. It was.
- [93:17]
Adam Curry
Oh, I don't remember that.
- [93:18]
John C. Dvorak
Yes. No, the basketball. I think it was 320.
- [93:21]
Adam Curry
No, it's 400 million. It was 417.
- [93:23]
John C. Dvorak
I think it was a lot of money. It was more than the ballroom. And it was.
- [93:27]
Adam Curry
Yeah. And it was just a basketball court.
- [93:29]
John C. Dvorak
And it was taxpayer money. Yeah, I don't think it was private money. And, and I remember. Oh, he's building a bunker.
- [93:37]
Adam Curry
Well, there has to be some. Something to explain that expense. Maybe there was a bunker. So here on the same, kind of, on the same topic, this is. This is Carvel going off on Bannon.
- [93:49]
John C. Dvorak
Oh, I love Carvel.
- [93:52]
Adam Curry
He's gone off the deep end. He was hanging in there for A while now. He's completely nuts.
- [93:56]
John C. Dvorak
Right?
- [93:57]
Adam Curry
And here he goes.
- [93:58]
John C. Dvorak
What clip is this?
- [93:59]
Adam Curry
He's going. This is. Let me back. I don't have this other clip. I should have had. I should have put it on here. But Bannon was on the show.
- [94:07]
John C. Dvorak
I have the Bannon clip.
- [94:08]
Adam Curry
Play the Bannon clip. Then we can play the retort by Carvel about the Bannon. This is Bannon talking to the idiot editor of the Economist. Ruined the magazine.
- [94:18]
John C. Dvorak
I know the. So what nationality is she?
- [94:23]
Adam Curry
She's British.
- [94:24]
John C. Dvorak
Huh. This is.
- [94:25]
Adam Curry
Well, the Economist has been a British magazine. That's not a surprise.
- [94:29]
John C. Dvorak
I know, but my point, she is probably.
- [94:30]
Adam Curry
Yes, she is. And she's a horrible editor.
- [94:33]
John C. Dvorak
But. And she's horrible looking, too, if we can just be honest about it. She's scary, but it's scary. This is a troll. This is Bannon trolling the North Sea nexus. Well, he's going to get a third term.
- [94:46]
Adam Curry
So Trump, 28. Trump is going to be president 28. And people just ought to get accommodated with that.
- [94:51]
John C. Dvorak
So what about the 22nd Amendment?
- [94:54]
Adam Curry
There's many different alternatives. At the appropriate time, we'll lay out what the plan is. But there's a plan. And President Trump will be.
- [95:00]
John C. Dvorak
Trust the plan.
- [95:01]
Adam Curry
President in 2018. We had longer odds in 16 and longer odds in 24 than we got in 28. And President was President. Trump will be the President of the United States. And the country needs him to be President of the United States. We have to finish what we started. And the way we finish it. Do Trump. Trump is a vehicle. I know this will drive you guys crazy, but he's a vehicle of divine providence. He's an instrument. He's very imperfect. He's not churchy, not particularly religious churchy, but he's an instrument of divine will. And you can tell this of how we've. How he's pulled this off.
- [95:33]
John C. Dvorak
We need.
- [95:33]
Adam Curry
We need him for at least one more term. Right. And he'll get that in 28.
- [95:38]
Margaret
You're not driving me crazy. I'm really. I'm trying to understand the coherence of.
- [95:43]
Adam Curry
The things you've just told me in the last few minutes. On the one hand, you've said the.
- [95:47]
Margaret
Constitution is fit for purpose. Secondly, you've said that President Trump needs.
- [95:51]
Adam Curry
Another term, Even though the 22nd amendment makes pretty clear that he cannot have another term. Why does it make that clear?
- [95:56]
Margaret
Because he's on his second term already.
- [95:58]
Adam Curry
You. At some point in time, we will make sure we go through Zani and define all those terms.
- [96:05]
Margaret
But even if you define all those.
- [96:07]
Adam Curry
Terms.
- [96:10]
Margaret
You will be undermining the spirit of that amendment.
- [96:12]
Adam Curry
Even if you find some way around.
- [96:14]
Margaret
It and do those.
- [96:15]
Adam Curry
Can the American people. Can the American people. If the American people, with the mechanisms we have put Trump back in office, are the American people people tearing up the Constitution, would that be turning up? Would they. Would the American people be going against the spirit of the Constitution, Ma'? Am.
- [96:32]
John C. Dvorak
So I have a second clip if you want, but what I took away from this was Ban. First of all, Bannon really is psyopping your son. It's like Dvorak's got to win this bet. I've got to make the kid really think he should double down. Has JC has come down yet and said, let's do make it a thousand dollars dollars?
- [96:53]
Adam Curry
I can. Oh, I can. I'm sure I, I could push him up to that. I'm not going to take advantage of him that much.
- [96:58]
John C. Dvorak
Oh, come on. He's. He's working in AI. He can take a. You can. You can spend a grand.
- [97:02]
Adam Curry
He's out of the. He's. Right now. He's between jobs.
- [97:05]
John C. Dvorak
Oh, he's. Is he living at the house? Is he living at the house?
- [97:08]
Adam Curry
No, he's got.
- [97:09]
John C. Dvorak
No, he's not living at the house. He's between opportunities, is what we say.
- [97:13]
Adam Curry
Yeah. I'm sorry, what am I thinking? What is my language? I'm deteriorating. He's between opportunities. You're exactly right. But he, that this is. Ban is also doing. He's trying to get back in the good graces of the president. Clearly, he has not been invited to anything. He claims, in that same interview, he claims he's on the phone with the president all the time. He's calling that Trump's calling him for advice.
- [97:38]
John C. Dvorak
Right.
- [97:39]
Adam Curry
And all this stuff and Bannon's just lost cause.
- [97:42]
John C. Dvorak
But so, but the point. So there's a couple ways you could take what he said said. One is he was, he was interestingly careful. He kept saying, Trump will be president. You know, it could be that somehow they believe Don Jr. Is going to be president. I don't think so. That's a possibility.
- [97:58]
Adam Curry
No, nobody thinks.
- [97:59]
John C. Dvorak
And what he's really saying is, well, the American people, if we want to change the Constitution, then we would have to have a vote on that, which is possible. It seems like the remaining three years is not enough time to, to, to mount that up. But that's what I think he's, he's saying, and he's being real cagey about it, which is Just trolley. He's trolling.
- [98:24]
Adam Curry
The whole thing is bull crap. He doesn't. He knows it's not going to. He. I don't think he's even thinking.
- [98:28]
John C. Dvorak
Do you want to hear the second part? One minute?
- [98:32]
Adam Curry
Sure.
- [98:33]
Margaret
I think. Yes, actually, because I think what you are going to. What you will end up with is justification for a quasi dictatorship.
- [98:41]
Adam Curry
That's not true at all.
- [98:43]
Margaret
That's what it sounds like.
- [98:44]
Adam Curry
Trump is dictatorship. Did you just see the compromises he had to make on the big beautiful bill? You see the compromises he has to do on everything? On accommodating Zelensky? On what President Trump. President Trump is nothing but a series of negotiations to kind of keep this thing rolling forward where he's having tradeoffs all the time.
- [99:02]
Margaret
Steve, you've just been. Spent the last 20 minutes telling me we have to smash the other side. There's no room for debate.
- [99:08]
John C. Dvorak
There's no room for compromise.
- [99:09]
Adam Curry
We must smash them.
- [99:10]
Margaret
And now you're telling me this is a negotiation. I mean, that's. No, no, no.
- [99:14]
John C. Dvorak
On his first off, the only way.
- [99:17]
Adam Curry
President Trump wins in 2028 and continues to stay in office is by the will of the American people. Okay. And the will of the American people is what the Constitution embodies. And so I think we're going to be. We're going to be engaged. Good hands there. We need to finish what we started. And President Trump is the instrument, a providential instrument to finish that, to finish this job.
- [99:41]
John C. Dvorak
Providential instrument. I love it. Release your Epstein tapes, bro. That's what we want from Bannon.
- [99:49]
Adam Curry
Well, I'm surprised that she didn't bring that into the conversation.
- [99:53]
John C. Dvorak
Well, she might have, but I only got.
- [99:55]
Adam Curry
I don't think so. So, yeah, that would have been ecliptic.
- [99:58]
John C. Dvorak
But. But I love the outrage. And. And, yeah, you're absolutely right. Bannon is so on the outs. Like, you know, we. We have to get. We. We.
- [100:08]
Adam Curry
He's always we. The royal we.
- [100:11]
John C. Dvorak
We.
- [100:11]
Adam Curry
As if he's part of the situation. Is he's part. As if he's part of the administration. And he's not.
- [100:17]
John C. Dvorak
Now, is your Carville. Is this the one where he's on. With the. With circle back. So, Saki.
- [100:25]
Adam Curry
I don't know. Now that you mentioned it, I. I know he was on with her. I don't. No, I don't think so. I think this is when he's on with that guy, his buddy.
- [100:34]
John C. Dvorak
Oh. Because I have a circle back. Saki.
- [100:36]
Adam Curry
Well, let's play this one. And then if it. And if the circle back Saki tops it, or unless this is it, I'm looking at tops. It didn't play that second.
- [100:44]
John C. Dvorak
I'm looking at the waveform. It looks the same. Let me see.
- [100:46]
Margaret
He hates.
- [100:47]
Adam Curry
He hates the United States. He hates the Republicans. Okay.
- [100:50]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah, He.
- [100:51]
Adam Curry
He. He hates any kind of system that we have. He's talking about Bannon.
- [100:56]
John C. Dvorak
Oh, I thought he was talking about Trump.
- [100:59]
Adam Curry
No, he's talking about Bannon.
- [101:01]
John C. Dvorak
Oh, interesting.
- [101:03]
Margaret
He hates.
- [101:04]
Adam Curry
He hates the United States. He hates the Republican Party. He hates any kind of system that we have here.
- [101:12]
John C. Dvorak
Any kind of rules. And they're gonna.
- [101:15]
Adam Curry
I hate to be like this, being.
- [101:18]
John C. Dvorak
An old man man, but I'm telling you, we had a really dangerous point.
- [101:22]
Adam Curry
In the United States. And I believe that from the bottom of my heart and a lot of other people I know that are really.
- [101:27]
John C. Dvorak
Smart historians, people that know this historian.
- [101:31]
Adam Curry
Totally agree with me.
- [101:32]
John C. Dvorak
It's bad.
- [101:33]
Adam Curry
It's dangerous.
- [101:35]
Margaret
I think there's no question about it. And it's this very difficult line between not wanting people to feel scared and wanting to be direct about what the.
- [101:43]
Adam Curry
Hell is happening, which is what we try to do, but you have no option.
- [101:49]
John C. Dvorak
I'm sorry. This is actually a very important clip, because what he's doing here, I believe, is part of the no Kings gambit, which is very weak. But the whole no Kings thing, as I think I identified, it's really about the Democrat Party trying to hijack patriotism. That's why we saw all the flags out. Out there. Everybody's waving flags. It's only about Trump. No kings, which is kind of rich for the North Sea nexus. No kings. You know, this is it. This is a dictatorship taking over everything.
- [102:29]
Adam Curry
Very difficult line.
- [102:30]
John C. Dvorak
Be afraid.
- [102:31]
Adam Curry
Stop. Stop. I think that Bannon is on here with this particular spiel about you must be afraid and scared because he's looking for a gig on msnbc.
- [102:45]
John C. Dvorak
Who? Carville?
- [102:47]
Adam Curry
Yeah, that's what I meant. Carville, not Bannon. Carville is looking for a gig on msnbc. And so he's. He is playing because he's never been this. He's not this much of a weenie.
- [103:00]
John C. Dvorak
Oh, I'm scared.
- [103:01]
Adam Curry
I'm scared. Bull crap. This is. He's looking to get a gig. Gig on. On Ms. Now, the new operation.
- [103:09]
John C. Dvorak
Oh, he'll work cheap. Yeah, well, he's gonna get paid cheap because it's going to be miss.
- [103:14]
Margaret
Now, between not wanting people to feel scared and wanting to be direct about what the hell is happening, which is.
- [103:19]
Adam Curry
What we try to do, but you have no option. I'm sorry. I like hope and I'm the man.
- [103:26]
John C. Dvorak
From hope and you know the Obama.
- [103:29]
Adam Curry
Hope poster and the hope and hope.
- [103:31]
John C. Dvorak
Hope is gone.
- [103:33]
Adam Curry
Hope is gone anywhere around here. We're war up against as a country. We're up against the wall. And right now there is no hope. There is fear. And people are justified to be afraid. And they need to do everything that they possibly can in their own simple way to profess their love for this country, their love for the traditions and the laws and the customs and the history that we. That we have and the progress we made because it. It's all at.
- [104:06]
Senator Lindsey Graham
This is likely as.
- [104:07]
Adam Curry
Not that we blow a gasket and I again, I know I'm being somewhat hysterical here, but I can't. I'm an old man. There's nothing else. I get to say what I want.
- [104:18]
John C. Dvorak
I'm just telling you. I'm.
- [104:20]
Adam Curry
I'm one scared dude. Really scared.
- [104:22]
John C. Dvorak
Hey, Bill, listen, we really. We got to fill out the roster for Ms. Audition tape.
- [104:28]
Adam Curry
By the way, that was his audition.
- [104:29]
John C. Dvorak
I'm an old dude. I got. This is an old. He got nothing left. He'll work for cheap because he's old and he already admitted he's got nothing to do. We can probably give him 8 bucks an hour and have him rant and rave. I guarantee I'm going to make a prediction. When does Ms. Now start? When is the switch?
- [104:47]
Adam Curry
I thought it was supposed to start already. So I have no idea when they're going to pull the plug on the old logo.
- [104:53]
John C. Dvorak
Well, hold on a second. Let's ask the robot. Hey, when does MSNBC officially switch over to Ms. Now? Nah, not yet.
- [105:11]
Margaret
Nah. Announced in August, but the full switch isn't till later this year.
- [105:16]
John C. Dvorak
Still MSNBC for now.
- [105:18]
Margaret
Kind of wild, right?
- [105:19]
John C. Dvorak
So wild. Idiot.
- [105:21]
Adam Curry
Oh, wow. I can't. You know, that's the wildest thing I've heard for months.
- [105:24]
John C. Dvorak
That's just wild. Wild here I'm going to make a prediction. When Ms. Now launches, they are going to have more American flag things waving on screen than Fox News. This is the gambit. This is, this is. Well, this is the program.
- [105:42]
Adam Curry
Carville with his patriotism. Little bit at the end there. May, you may, you may be have caught. You may have caught something there.
- [105:49]
John C. Dvorak
I watched no King. Kings. They are what they're trying to say.
- [105:55]
Adam Curry
People in their flags. It was so insincere.
- [105:58]
John C. Dvorak
No, but, but, but who you pointed out. Who are the people from no Kings. Old people. What is Carville? Old people. The old people vote yes.
- [106:08]
Adam Curry
Oh, yes.
- [106:08]
John C. Dvorak
Old people vote.
- [106:12]
Adam Curry
That's Carville. That's in his bio when he presented it to msnbc.
- [106:17]
John C. Dvorak
Hey, listen, old people.
- [106:18]
Adam Curry
Old people vote. I'm old. Put me on the show.
- [106:21]
John C. Dvorak
Let's go.
- [106:23]
Adam Curry
I'll be just a contributor. MSNBC contributor. MSNOW contributor.
- [106:27]
John C. Dvorak
Let's rock and roll.
- [106:29]
Adam Curry
Yeah, he's gonna be a contributor on MSNOW constantly, and he's gonna be doing the same bit he's been working on, and he stinks. He's no good.
- [106:37]
John C. Dvorak
But I'm just saying, if I was. If I was in charge of MsNow, if you and I were in charge, I would say, let's go all the way. Let's out fox, Fox News. Let's put flags everywhere. Statue of Liberty, you know, no kings.
- [106:54]
Adam Curry
I, as in the same meeting, I would say, well, okay, I like the idea because it's a good idea. Except for the fact that our staffers hate the country so much that they're going to be. We're going to lose people.
- [107:09]
John C. Dvorak
Well, seeing as in the cities these days, I was reading a report. The median age for people just doing regular old jobs, jobs excluding, you know, banking and all that kind of stuff, is $34,000. I don't. How do you survive in a city?
- [107:30]
Adam Curry
And I'm talking in a city. You can't. You can in the suburbs, but I'm talking of Houston.
- [107:34]
John C. Dvorak
I'm talking Chicago.
- [107:37]
Adam Curry
Well, you know how you survive? You vote in Mom Donnie.
- [107:43]
John C. Dvorak
Wow, what a bridge. Let me bring in Mom Donnie Donnie. I've got. I've got three Mom Donnie clips.
- [107:50]
Adam Curry
And I will say this, by the way, I do have some pushback from my New York friends. Oh, more than one. Oh, well, they say, oh, you're wrong because I sent them the essay. Oh, no, no, I didn't. We're not that stupid here in New York. And I'm thinking, oh, okay. I don't think. I think you're.
- [108:09]
John C. Dvorak
Listen to this.
- [108:10]
Adam Curry
As early voting gets under away in New York's mayoral race, Democratic candidate Zoran Mamdani has vowed to further embrace his Muslim identity in the face of what he's called racist and baseless attacks from his opponents. Mamdani made the comments while speaking outside a mosque on Friday. To be Muslim in New York is to expect indignity. But indignity does not make us distinct. There are many New Yorkers who face it. It is the tolerance of that. Mamdani has faced backlash for his criticism of Israel. Former New York Governor Andrew Cuomo and Mamdani's other Rival Republican candidate Curtis Sliwa have both stepped up their attacks on the Democratic Socialist. As the election draws closer. Cuomo laughed along to a joke that Mamdani would likely cheer another 911 attack on New York, while Sliwa falsely claimed that he's a supporter Porter of Global Jihad.
- [109:06]
John C. Dvorak
So those two weak brothers are trying to do something. Here's the important endorsement. Big, very important endorsement. From mom Danny. From Hakeem Jeffries. Hakeem who? Hakeem Jeffries.
- [109:19]
Margaret
In New York City, city of more than 8 million people, there's about to be an election of a new mayor. You waited until this Friday, the day before early voting began to endorse the Democratic Socialist candidate, Zorin Mamdani. Why did you wait so long?
- [109:38]
John C. Dvorak
Well, as I indicated, last several weeks, we've been immersed in the intensity around the government shutdown and the run up to that in advance of September 30th and the expiration of the fiscal year. But I support the Democratic nominee, as I indicated, and we're in alignment in terms of the issue related to affordability and the need to address it decisively for the City of New York. And of course, affordability is an issue for people all across the country. From a public safety standpoint, I supported the notion that he would retain Police Commissioner Jessica Tisch to continue to lead the NYPD forward. That's incredibly important from a public safety standpoint for every community, including as a high priority the safety and security of the Jewish community. And in terms of the moment that we find ourselves in, Donald Trump represents an existential threat to the city of New York and beyond because of the extreme assault that has taken place throughout this year on the economy, on healthcare, on farmers, on veterans, on law abiding immigrant communities, on due process, on the rule of law, and of course, on the American way of life itself. And we all, as Americans are going to have to be aligned and pushing back so we can end this national nightmare that Donald Trump has visited upon the American people. Wow. I almost want to vote for Mandani now. I mean, that's what an endorsement. Can you keep going?
- [111:01]
Margaret
Hakeem, I want to ask you about something you said. You said, Democrats, there are no election deniers on our side of the aisle. You said that back in January, but recently you've been using the term rigged elections in reference to the upcoming midterms. Democrats were appalled when President Trump used language like that. How do you justify using that now? Doesn't that undermine faith for voters? You need to show up.
- [111:25]
John C. Dvorak
No, I've Been using that term in the context of Donald Trump's unprecedented effort to gerrymander congressional maps in a partisan fashion all across the country in order to rig the midterm elections and deny the ability of the American people to actually decide who should be in the majority as it relates to the House.
- [111:46]
Margaret
You know, Democrats are also going through gerrymandering.
- [111:51]
Adam Curry
No.
- [111:51]
Margaret
And redistricting.
- [111:52]
John C. Dvorak
No, no, no, no, no, no. Well, Democrats are going to push back aggressively to make sure that we have fair maps across the country, not partisan gerrymander, which Republicans have initiated in state after state after state.
- [112:07]
Margaret
Leader Jeffries, thank you for your time.
- [112:09]
Adam Curry
Thank you for your courage.
- [112:11]
Margaret
We'll be right back.
- [112:12]
John C. Dvorak
So your New York friends are these publishing friends? What kind of friends are these?
- [112:16]
Adam Curry
No, there's just a show. Fans.
- [112:19]
John C. Dvorak
Oh. Oh, okay. Really?
- [112:21]
Adam Curry
Yeah. Producers.
- [112:22]
John C. Dvorak
And they're saying we're not that stupid. Well, I'm sure they're not that stupid, but do they really think that they're deluded? Curtis Sliwa or Cuomo is going to win.
- [112:35]
Adam Curry
You can put their votes together and they won't win. This guy's got it made.
- [112:40]
John C. Dvorak
Wow. I'm surprised. Well, I mean, that is.
- [112:44]
Adam Curry
It doesn't surprise me.
- [112:45]
John C. Dvorak
No, no. I'm surprised that our producers think that. That. That that's not going to happen. That they're.
- [112:50]
Adam Curry
I think it's just. It might be wishful thinking.
- [112:53]
John C. Dvorak
It has to be. That's crazy. I see no distance, no. In no scenario do I see him not winning unless something bad happens to him.
- [113:05]
Adam Curry
Yeah. And I don't see that either.
- [113:07]
John C. Dvorak
No.
- [113:08]
Adam Curry
No.
- [113:10]
John C. Dvorak
Wow.
- [113:12]
Adam Curry
Here's this. Since we're on the topic of that. That the political situation there. I'm watching this interview or this part of the debate with. With Mickey Sher. Mickey. Cheryl, the female running for. And looks like she's going to win the governorship of New Jersey. Jersey. Although it's getting tight, and until I saw this, watched it and listened to her, I didn't realize she's a lesbian. I don't know if she's married or what, but I. I realized that I'm not that good at spotting lesbians.
- [113:48]
John C. Dvorak
You're good at a lot of things.
- [113:51]
Adam Curry
But, yeah, lesbians are more elusive.
- [113:55]
John C. Dvorak
But can't you. You just analyze a woman and. As if she had a vasectomy?
- [114:02]
Adam Curry
No, it's not. It's not that. What is when you can. In this situation where she's kind of. She's answering about how important it is for lgbtq, I mean, which triggers you right away. So you Say. Well, maybe, you know, let's take a closer look.
- [114:16]
John C. Dvorak
Now, are you sure she's a lesbian? Is this.
- [114:18]
Adam Curry
No, I. The reason I say that is because besides the fact that she wants to, sort of because she's so pro lgbtq is not it. It's the. It's her posture.
- [114:29]
John C. Dvorak
Can we ask. Can we ask error?
- [114:32]
Adam Curry
Ooh, let's ask error if. If Mickey Cheryl is a lesbian.
- [114:36]
John C. Dvorak
Okay. Error. Is Mickey Cheryl a lesbian?
- [114:42]
Margaret
Oh, honey, if you want to channel Cheryl, start by owning that confident swagger. Rock.
- [114:47]
John C. Dvorak
A sharp haircut, maybe some bold eyeliner.
- [114:49]
Margaret
Eyeliner. And flirt shamelessly with every cute girl you see.
- [114:53]
John C. Dvorak
What. What is going on right now?
- [114:55]
Adam Curry
She just told you she's a lesbian.
- [114:58]
John C. Dvorak
She's a lesbian. No. Is Mickey Cheryl, who's running for governor of New Jersey? Is she a lesbian? You idiot.
- [115:08]
Margaret
Whoa, easy there. Didn't mean to ruffle feathers. Quick search turns up. Zilch on Kathy Shero, running for NJ Governor.
- [115:15]
John C. Dvorak
Kathy Shero. Okay, this is what I'm talking about. About. I want my $20 back.
- [115:21]
Adam Curry
Zilch on Kathy Sherrill, running for governor is what she said.
- [115:25]
John C. Dvorak
Yes.
- [115:27]
Adam Curry
Okay, well, she. She doesn't know, but it was the. It was her posture. The way her hair was flipped over her ear and the way she was hunched forward and the way she was. The way she. Her body language was. That's what triggered me thinking she's a lesbian. Besides what she says here.
- [115:46]
John C. Dvorak
Okay.
- [115:47]
Margaret
I believe that parents have the right to oversee their children's education. I would push an LGBTQ education into our schools. Parents have a right to opt out of a lot of things, but. But this is not an area where they should be opting out, because this is an area of understanding the background of people throughout our nation. And right now, we see, for example, at the Naval Academy, an erasure of history. Steve Sweeney.
- [116:11]
John C. Dvorak
Okay, I think you're wrong, and here's a couple of reasons why. One, her husband is Jason Hedberg. So that's already. I mean, it doesn't mean she's not lesbian. What I think you misidentified is what she really is. Born in Alexandria, Virginia.
- [116:30]
Adam Curry
Spook.
- [116:31]
John C. Dvorak
Yes. United States Naval Academy in Annapolis, London School of Economics, American University, Cairo. Georgetown University Law Center. Spook. Spook.
- [116:42]
Adam Curry
Lesbian Spook.
- [116:43]
John C. Dvorak
I don't. So Jason's the beard. Okay, well, maybe, but spook is. She's definitely a spook.
- [116:50]
Adam Curry
Well, she's. I'm not going to argue the spook part.
- [116:53]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah.
- [116:54]
Adam Curry
Although she wasn't allowed to participate in the. In her graduation at the Naval Academy because there's some indication that she took part in a cheating scandal or knew about the cheating scandal and wouldn't do anything about it or turn her buddies in or something along those lines. All that. All. All. All I can say is that she was not allowed to walk. And this became the. She was not allowed to accept a diploma. I mean, she got a diploma. She wasn't allowed to take it in the ceremony. And this became a part that's caused her some votes was as when once it was discovered by her opponent, Ciarelli, or whatever the hell his name is. But this. This l. This pro lgbtq, you shouldn't opt out. And then this. This. This body language told me that. Or indicated to me. And I. Again, I've already said I'm not an expert at spotting lesbians, although you think I. In the Bay Area, you think I would be. Especially Berkeley. But maybe that's because there's so many of them. I'm convinced of it.
- [118:04]
John C. Dvorak
Well, her husband is also ensnared in the massive Naval Academy cheating scandal. From what I'm reading here.
- [118:11]
Adam Curry
Oh.
- [118:12]
John C. Dvorak
Oh, you know what? I'm looking at the picture of the two of them. I think we've got a double beard action going on here.
- [118:22]
Adam Curry
Aha.
- [118:28]
John C. Dvorak
Why are we even. They have. They have, like, four kids.
- [118:32]
Adam Curry
This doesn't mean anything. Probably a good idea. Why are we. Because. Because it indicates a dishonesty. That is. It should not be part of a political profile. That's what it indicates to me. That's why I don't like it. I don't care. And I don't think that kids should be indoctrinated to be lgbtq.
- [118:57]
John C. Dvorak
No, I'm with you.
- [118:58]
Adam Curry
I'm with you in grammar school.
- [119:00]
John C. Dvorak
New Jersey is lost. I mean, I. I lived there for. Oh, goodness, nine years. I love New Jersey. It's lost. It's lost. Except for South Jersey, the shore, you know, it's still kind of okay down there. Everything else is lost. It's a. It's basically become Western New York. Mamdani should run for governor. At the same time in New Jersey. He could do both states.
- [119:26]
Adam Curry
There you go.
- [119:27]
John C. Dvorak
It'd be free. Fine. So, interesting little twist in the. In the ongoing fight as the. The Royal Canadian Province of Ontario threw out a fantastic ad with. I'm surprised that it was $75 million ad buy, is what they're saying of the. The Ronald Reagan quote taken out of context about terror sheriffs.
- [119:58]
Adam Curry
Yes, this is pretty funny.
- [119:59]
John C. Dvorak
That was a.
- [120:00]
Adam Curry
That was a Trump administration.
- [120:02]
John C. Dvorak
Well, it IRKED Trump. And I ran and I, I got one of those Air Force One videos. Turns out if you run that through the 11 labs AI isolator, it's dynamite. Listen to this. What's in our view on what Canada.
- [120:15]
Adam Curry
Needs to do to get things back on track? Well, Canada lied. I mean, what they did was terrible. They made up a fake statement by President Russia Reagan. Reagan was a big supporter of tariffs when needed, and we need tariffs for national security. And they totally turned it around because they're getting hurt by tariffs and we're gaining by tariffs. They've used tariffs, caught us where we had different residents very successfully, and they've.
- [120:42]
John C. Dvorak
Taken a lot of money out of.
- [120:43]
Adam Curry
Our country and now we're taking it all back.
- [120:45]
John C. Dvorak
And so they went out and they.
- [120:47]
Adam Curry
Made a fake command commercial. The Reagan foundation went crazy when they saw it because it was, you know, the opposite, was the opposite of when Ronald Reagan. Ronald Reagan liked tariffs, and when necessary, he would use tariffs. You know, we're in very good shape for that. But they took a commercial saying the exact opposite. Canada. And so I'm very disappointed in Canada.
- [121:10]
Senator Lindsey Graham
They lied.
- [121:11]
Adam Curry
I mean, it was a. It was a fraud what they did. Really. I don't think there's much they can do. I just don't believe it the way it is. Will you me with that? If you leave it the way it is, it's very good for us.
- [121:22]
John C. Dvorak
Will you meet with Prime Minister Cardi during us June?
- [121:24]
Adam Curry
I don't have any attention of it.
- [121:28]
John C. Dvorak
So cut off all negotiations. We're going to tariff the crap out of them. And this all comes, of course, on the eve of the big Supreme Court decision, which or hearing, I don't know how quick they'll come with a decision where President Trump will be attending. He says he's going to go look there and stare him down, I guess. Yes. I don't know what's going to happen. Can the president actually determine tariffs?
- [121:53]
Adam Curry
For the justices, it's yet another test of how far a president can go as they hear arguments over whether Donald Trump has the authority to unilaterally impose tariffs, a case that could ultimately see his tariffs struck down. If we are not allowed to use what other people use against us, there's no defense. It would be a disaster for America. That's why I think I'm going to go to the Supreme Court to watch it. To justify his signature economic policy, Trump has used a law known as the International Emergency Economic Powers act, claiming trade imbalances and fentanyl trafficking constitute national emergencies. For decades, our country has been looted, pillaged, raped and plundered. The issue is that Trump bypassed Congress.
- [122:37]
John C. Dvorak
Which has authority over tariffs, leading lower courts to repeatedly rule the import duties illegal and unconstitutional. Now facing the Supreme Court, Trump claims repealing tariffs would trigger another Great Depression.
- [122:51]
Adam Curry
This country will have no financial security, will not have national security. I think that that kind of claims.
- [122:58]
John C. Dvorak
Of economic devastation, which themselves are very questionable, I don't think really going to.
- [123:02]
Adam Curry
Weigh heavily on whether or not this.
- [123:03]
John C. Dvorak
Is Bring in the British expert.
- [123:06]
Adam Curry
The bad news for Canada is that even if the tariffs are struck down.
- [123:10]
John C. Dvorak
Trump will likely find other ways to reimpose them. While duties on Canadian steel and aluminum would not be impacted by any Supreme.
- [123:18]
Adam Curry
Court decision, they're here until a deal is negotiated. We have made ourselves a 51st state.
- [123:24]
John C. Dvorak
Over many, many years, right? From an economic dependency perspective, more than.
- [123:28]
Adam Curry
75% of good of trade is dependent.
- [123:30]
John C. Dvorak
On the US as Canada works to realign its trading relationships with other countries, the Trump administration has made it clear it will find a way to keep tariffs in place, especially with Trump counting.
- [123:42]
Adam Curry
On them to provide trillions of dollars in revenue for the US Budget.
- [123:46]
John C. Dvorak
So what's at play here is this International Emergency Economic Powers Act. Have you ever looked at this?
- [123:55]
Adam Curry
No.
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John C. Dvorak
This thing is like the Swiss army knife. For any president to do whatever he wants. This thing is. I mean, it's so it has amendments every year. There's amendments. So the, the actual army knife. Oh, listen to it. So this is 50 USC chapter 35 and unusual and extraordinary threat, Declaration of national emergency, exercise of President authorities. Any authority granted to the President by section 1702 of this title may be exercised to deal with any unusual and extraordinary threat which has its source in whole or substantial part outside the United States to the national security, foreign policy or economy of the United States. If the President declares a national emergency with respect to such threat. Well, clearly this applies. The authorities granted to the President by section 1702 of this title may only be exercised to deal with an unusual and extraordinary threat. Threat with respect to which a national emergency has been declared for purposes of this chapter and may not be exercised for any of the purpose any exercise. Such authorities to deal with any new threat shall be based on a new declaration of national emergency. So if you just look at it going back to 2001amendment, this act and provision set out notes. So this I was for the ILSA Extension Act. I don't know what the heck that was. 2005, that was for foreign relations and intercourse may be cited as Iran Non Proliferation Amendments Act. 2006 North Korean non Proliferation Act Money and finance enacting provisions set out to title of Foreign Relations. And they do a lot of intercourse in these documents. 2007, that was for the international. That was the International Emergency Economic Powers Enhancement Act. That came right before the Great Depression. 2016, the Iran Sanctions Extension Act. 2016, the Venezuela Defense of Human Rights and Civil Society Extension Act. This is all added into this thing. 2018, the Hezbollah international financing prevention amendments. 2021, this was the reinforcing Nicaragua's Inherent Conditions for Electoral Reform Act. 2000. So it's every country that we don't like, we put you into this act ending with 2024 strengthening tools to Counter the Use of Human Shields act as obviously Gaza. There's very little about tariffs specifically. But this is, as I said, it's a Swiss army knife. You can do anything you want with this thing as long as you say, hey, I declare an emergency, it's economic boom, you're good to go. I see. There is no reason whatsoever that the Supreme Court should say the President doesn't have authority under this act. It's insane.
- [127:03]
Adam Curry
What they should try to do is make the act unconstitutional, but they don't have the guts to do that.
- [127:08]
John C. Dvorak
No, no. This thing, this is a beaut. And it's. It is and it must be. It must, must be. You know, I don't know how many pages it is, but it must be 30,000 words. It is so. And there's a lot. It's all legalese here. Captagon trafficking, ineligibility for visas, admissions or parole. Everything is in here. Everything. You farted. Oh, sorry. International Emergency Economic Powers Act. I'm going to rest your issue. This thing actually should be unconstitutional and illegal, this whole thing. But guess who passed it? Congress. They gave away all the powers to the President. All of it in this act. It's crazy. We should frame it.
- [127:59]
Adam Curry
That's what happens.
- [128:00]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah, this is what happens. We should probably take a break, man.
- [128:09]
Adam Curry
All right, well, let's play one more. One tick tock clip in advance. It's short.
- [128:13]
John C. Dvorak
TikTok clip. Yes. Okay. Which.
- [128:17]
Adam Curry
This is part of our Gen Z takedown. This is a. This is a woman who's gone nuts. Because what?
- [128:27]
John C. Dvorak
Someone went nuts on TikTok.
- [128:29]
Adam Curry
I got a woman going nuts. No, because. Because she's figured out. Out. Because I guess she never got taught this in school that when you rent something, yes, you have to keep paying rent and it never goes away. But she thinks it should, but it doesn't and so she's completely lost it.
- [128:49]
John C. Dvorak
When does it end, bro?
- [128:52]
Adam Curry
I'm so tired.
- [128:56]
John C. Dvorak
I'm so exhausted. Like, it has to be stop. It has to stop soon.
- [129:02]
Adam Curry
Like, I'm not even kidding. Like, get me out of here. Oh, my freaking God.
- [129:13]
Margaret
Oh, my God.
- [129:15]
John C. Dvorak
No, no, this. This is. This is someone having a breakdown. That's nice.
- [129:20]
Adam Curry
Rent doesn't end is how she starts. And then she just goes nuts. And with that, I want to thank.
- [129:26]
John C. Dvorak
You for your courage. Say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea and the crazy Tik Tok clip. Say hello to my friend on the other end for 18 years, the one, the only, Mr. John C. Devora.
- [129:42]
Adam Curry
Yeah, Anymore. You had a crane tomorrow. You should have seen Boots on the Ground, Feet in the Air, Subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
- [129:49]
John C. Dvorak
Good morning to the trolls in the troll room. Let me get you here. Well, that's the opposite of Frederick's brain. Only 1768. We're dying over here. We're dying. We're dying. I tell you, that is the number of people listening live, which is kind of cool when you think about it. You know, it's a bigger studio audience than Jimmy Kimmel and.
- [130:15]
Adam Curry
Yes, true.
- [130:16]
John C. Dvorak
And maybe bigger than his audience in general. In. In the demo. In the demo. In the demo. You never know.
- [130:22]
Adam Curry
We win the demo.
- [130:23]
John C. Dvorak
We got the Zeds, baby. We got the Zeds on board.
- [130:25]
Adam Curry
You have the Zeds? They love us.
- [130:27]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah, the Zeds.
- [130:27]
Adam Curry
Because we play women like the one they just played you.
- [130:30]
John C. Dvorak
I gotta note that the zeds in Finland also cannot read clock. It's a global thing. It's not just American Zeds and I.
- [130:41]
Adam Curry
This is part of the international conspiracy. Once the Zeds realize that they're being used, they're being victimized by the educational system on a worldwide basis. They're going to. They're going to take. Take action. You watch.
- [130:54]
John C. Dvorak
What? What do you mean they're going to take action?
- [130:56]
Adam Curry
They're going to start their own schools or something. I don't know what they're going to do. How are they going to deal with it?
- [131:01]
John C. Dvorak
I did.
- [131:01]
Adam Curry
Or they're going to start listening show. I'm not sure.
- [131:04]
John C. Dvorak
Well, we have Jacob who's listening to our show and he's a Zetter. He just turned 20 and he says, I heard you talking about younger people wanting lab grown diamonds over real ones. I agree with you. I'm always from Alberta, Canada. Wow. We've got a Canadian Zed.
- [131:23]
Adam Curry
An accent, Canadian Zed. A cz. A CZ is a cz.
- [131:27]
John C. Dvorak
Cz.
- [131:28]
Adam Curry
Cubic zirconium. And he likes phony diamonds. That makes sense. Wow.
- [131:32]
John C. Dvorak
A cz, he says. Well, listen to this. He says, yes, I just turned 20, and that's what I'm looking into for my engagement. I'm waiting until I'm a journeyman electrician to propose. Only a year left. This is a real man right here. I love that he's getting the real gig. He doesn't want to live on $34,000 a year in a big city. No, he wants to get a real job that pays real money. He's going to propose to his real, real woman. An actual woman woman. And he's going to do it with.
- [132:04]
Adam Curry
Do we know that for a fact?
- [132:05]
John C. Dvorak
Oh, please. Come on. Come on. He's listening to the show. Of course. These things make me want to go for another four years, but I think we'll only make three. We've got to call it quits at 21, don't you think?
- [132:20]
Adam Curry
21 years of show.
- [132:22]
John C. Dvorak
21. That'll be longer than any of my marriages.
- [132:29]
Adam Curry
You're gonna freak out My wife.
- [132:31]
John C. Dvorak
Why? What do you mean? Oh, she doesn't.
- [132:33]
Adam Curry
What are you gonna do for money? Oh, the cash flow.
- [132:37]
John C. Dvorak
Hey, she's gonna be. She's gonna be a big politician. She'll get in on that gravy train. She's gonna be fine.
- [132:42]
Adam Curry
She gets to Congress. That'd be great.
- [132:44]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah. 174,000 a year. By the time she gets in, it'll be 300,000.
- [132:48]
Adam Curry
Well, not only that, but it's the millions and millions you make on the side.
- [132:51]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah, and. And, you know, you. And you'll continue to do DH Unplugged with a wink, wink, nudge, nudge. I gotta. You know, I've been looking at the insider trading on this stock. Everyone will be hanging on your lip like Dvorak's got the inside trade. You will, in fact, be the new Nancy Pelosi. It could be Fantastic. Fantastic. We love our producers. We've called you producers from early on. I don't think we ever called our audience anything but producers. I'd have to listen to the first few episodes, but. But we decided very early, back in 2000.
- [133:27]
Adam Curry
But this was your idea. I'll give you credit.
- [133:29]
John C. Dvorak
Thank you. That. Well, it was part of the value for value concept.
- [133:34]
Adam Curry
I think it predated it.
- [133:37]
John C. Dvorak
I think it was a part of.
- [133:38]
Adam Curry
Value for value came much later. I mean, the term value for value, the idea of asking for donations was around but the term value for value came much after the producers. Oh, yeah?
- [133:52]
John C. Dvorak
What do you say? By much. What do you think that is?
- [133:55]
Adam Curry
Years? At least two, really.
- [133:56]
John C. Dvorak
Let me see. Value.
- [133:58]
Adam Curry
In fact, the value for value came up very late in the game.
- [134:01]
John C. Dvorak
Really well. But we did the concept very early in the game. Yeah.
- [134:05]
Adam Curry
The concept was always there. And it's began. The concept, if you recall, began with realization based on the fact that we let people donate what they wanted to. That's. That's how it evolved.
- [134:16]
John C. Dvorak
Yes.
- [134:17]
Adam Curry
And we started getting these crazy numerological donations.
- [134:21]
John C. Dvorak
Yes.
- [134:21]
Adam Curry
People would donate their birthday. They donate some double nickels on the dime. And they said, this is double nickels on the dime. 5510. And then they would, you know. And that evolved because we realized that people like to pick their own numbers, as opposed to $4 a month.
- [134:40]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah.
- [134:41]
Adam Curry
Click here. You know, no, forget it. Donate what you want. And then that evolved to value for value. But that took a couple of years for the term.
- [134:50]
John C. Dvorak
Hmm. I'm gonna have to look it up and find out when you can look.
- [134:53]
Adam Curry
It up, and you won't be able to beat me on this one. I do found.
- [134:59]
John C. Dvorak
I do found. Hey, I do found something. I do found that in episode number 23 was the first time we talked about vasectomy. Well, now look at this. Episode number 23. We were talking about value. What's the value? I'm gonna. I'm. I shall make a research project.
- [135:27]
Adam Curry
Yeah, yeah. Waste your time on this. Okay.
- [135:29]
John C. Dvorak
Oh, oh, oh. Call it a waste. I call it historical research. Search Bingit IO People Every. Every good podcast should have a Bingit IO. I agree with that because it is so easy.
- [135:43]
Adam Curry
Otherwise you couldn't do this at all.
- [135:45]
John C. Dvorak
No, it is so. And thank you very much, sir Denonymous, for doing that. Clipgenie.com everybody. So, yes, we call our. Our listeners. We don't call them fans.
- [135:56]
Adam Curry
Fans.
- [135:56]
John C. Dvorak
I love when people say, how many fans do you have? I don't know. Fans, fans. We have producers. We have thousands of producers. And they're so good. I was arguing with one of our producers on email, Dana Brunetti.
- [136:09]
Adam Curry
That's all you do.
- [136:10]
John C. Dvorak
Dana Brunetti is a great producer to argue with. I really appreciate his insights, which, of course.
- [136:18]
Adam Curry
Oh, he's dynamite. They're all wrong.
- [136:20]
John C. Dvorak
I mean, everything.
- [136:21]
Adam Curry
Well, he's a Hollywood guy, so he's going to have the suit perspective.
- [136:24]
John C. Dvorak
I'm trying to get him suit.
- [136:26]
Adam Curry
I know. As much as he hates that, he knows he is.
- [136:29]
John C. Dvorak
I'm trying to get him to produce a movie of. What was the milkmaids book you were talking about?
- [136:37]
Adam Curry
Yeah. He finally got grossed out by the back and forth. I noticed that.
- [136:41]
John C. Dvorak
Which is kind of ridiculous because. What's the name of that book? Was it a book or what was it?
- [136:47]
Adam Curry
It's a Minotaur in the Missus or something. I don't know what it was called.
- [136:51]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah.
- [136:52]
Adam Curry
Shoe on Head did a whole special on it.
- [136:55]
John C. Dvorak
I actually have a clip from Shoe on Head. Is that where you got it from?
- [137:00]
Adam Curry
That's when I first was aware of it. Cause I saw the little shoe on head talking about it.
- [137:05]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah.
- [137:06]
Adam Curry
And I said and I like her.
- [137:08]
John C. Dvorak
I think is great. She's fantastic.
- [137:10]
Adam Curry
No, she is great. I don't watch all her stuff, but when I. When I is. She's. She's really good. She's a great podcaster. Video podcast.
- [137:19]
John C. Dvorak
Here's a. Yeah, especially her eye makeup is phenomenal.
- [137:22]
Adam Curry
Oh yeah. She wear. And she got big eyes. Anyway.
- [137:24]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah.
- [137:24]
Adam Curry
And she likes to. And she. She's good at at takes and she does. She likes to mug and she likes to do takes and she does. She's quizzical looks and let's be honest, very talented.
- [137:35]
John C. Dvorak
Calling your podcast Shoe on Head is just a great, great name.
- [137:40]
Adam Curry
You want to. She calls herself Shoe. Her name is Shoe.
- [137:43]
John C. Dvorak
You want to hear the clip about that? Gooners. The goon is. Gooners is the. Is the term we're looking at here.
- [137:48]
Margaret
I forgot to inform you that there is a new epidemic. An epidemic that many have yet to discuss. And that epidemic is female Gooners. Now for those of you unaware, gooner is Internet slang for someone addicted to. To porn. And smut is slang for dark romance novels, otherwise known as porn. Many correct about the dangers of porn addiction with men. How it can destroy their lives and their relationships.
- [138:14]
John C. Dvorak
And most men know the material they consume is weird.
- [138:17]
Margaret
That is why they are ashamed of it. That is why they delete their browser history. That is why they go incognito mode. But these bitches freaks out here. They display their smut openly in bookstores. They print proudly pose in front of their smut collections. They discuss their smut openly on TikTok. They go to smut conventions and get choked out by nine foot tall shirtless wendigos.
- [138:37]
Adam Curry
Now I know what you are thinking, Shoe.
- [138:40]
Margaret
Isn't this the pot calling the kettle degenerate? Yes.
- [138:45]
John C. Dvorak
Yes it is.
- [138:46]
Margaret
But have you considered it takes one.
- [138:48]
John C. Dvorak
To truly know one.
- [138:49]
Margaret
You see, women are strange, fascinating creatures. For some centuries, men have tried to figure us out Our mood is affected by the tides and the moon we bleed for five days and don't die by painting my face I can instantly shapeshift from a 4 to a 6. We are truly mysterious, magical creatures. But one of the most mysterious aspects of women to men is our sexuality. You see, us women are not like those disgusting moids.
- [139:15]
John C. Dvorak
No, no.
- [139:15]
Margaret
We are sophisticated.
- [139:16]
Adam Curry
We are evolved.
- [139:18]
Margaret
We don't watch videos of media strangers slapping their sweaty bodies together.
- [139:21]
John C. Dvorak
No, no.
- [139:22]
Margaret
We read about strangers slapping their sweaty bodies together. It's different.
- [139:26]
John C. Dvorak
Okay.
- [139:27]
Margaret
You don't understand. It's okay when we do it.
- [139:31]
John C. Dvorak
So, first of all, Dana Brunetti was way ahead of the curve with 50 shades of gray because he understood this inherently, that this is what women want. The Gooners, the female Gooners. In fact, he should be called Hat on Foot or something, because he completely understood. Understood this. But he's missing the boat. I mean, he pioneered the category and. Okay, so the needle has moved a little bit more towards the extreme with milking goats or whatever. Whatever that was. But he needs to get back in the game. This is what I was telling him.
- [140:12]
Adam Curry
Okay. A couple of things.
- [140:13]
John C. Dvorak
That's what bought him that ranch.
- [140:15]
Adam Curry
Yes, it is. And he knows it. And he still gets massive checks, which we've discussed on the show.
- [140:21]
John C. Dvorak
Checks, checks.
- [140:24]
Adam Curry
Rando checks, the best part of it. And so he gets a rando check every so often. And he's got this. He is not happy about the fact that he is that insightful.
- [140:41]
John C. Dvorak
Wow. But you of all people should whip him. Just slap him upside the head. Are you nuts?
- [140:47]
Adam Curry
It's almost like, well, he's done good product otherwise, too. I mean, it's not like that's the only thing he's ever done. That's the thing that's made him the most money because he got the best deals on it, and he knew how to put the deals together. And he. But he's kind of. And I'm not going to.
- [141:01]
John C. Dvorak
He's elitist.
- [141:02]
Adam Curry
He's.
- [141:03]
John C. Dvorak
He'd become elitist. Oh, that's beneath.
- [141:05]
Adam Curry
No, he's always been somewhat of an elitist.
- [141:07]
John C. Dvorak
I don't want to do smut anymore.
- [141:10]
Adam Curry
Yes.
- [141:12]
John C. Dvorak
Although it was pretty cool. At the Food and Wine Festival dinner, the House of Cards came up, said, yeah, you know, the guy who produces that. Produce that. He produces a Our Show. People go, what? See? Yeah, Danny Brunetti. You want me to call him? I can call him right now. I can call him. No, no, no. Don't. Don't bother him. He's probably busy. Yeah, A real busy.
- [141:31]
Adam Curry
Busy. He's plowing a field. Actually, that's.
- [141:36]
John C. Dvorak
That's the line. What's he doing? He's plowing a field. Anyway, the point being. I don't know what the point is. We have the best producers. That's the point. And yeah, we do. And these producers are around the world. They. You want. You want to know something about being addicted to opioids, but bam. You don't have to go out and call through. Hey, can we find some video? No, we just put out the call to our producers. You want to know if that gripping plane is any good. Boom. I got a Swedish aircraft engineer, he says, yeah, the E version is good.
- [142:09]
Adam Curry
He says they're not going to give him the E version. I got two notes on the. Griffin. Griffin?
- [142:14]
John C. Dvorak
Griffin, Yes.
- [142:14]
Adam Curry
I always thought it was Griffin.
- [142:16]
John C. Dvorak
Well, in America they say Griffin, but it's Griffin in.
- [142:20]
Adam Curry
In Sweden, Gripen and two experts sent us notes saying it's pretty good product.
- [142:26]
John C. Dvorak
Well, the C and the D version is. Is. Meh. That's the one they use between Thailand and. Who was Thailand fighting with? Malay. No, who were they?
- [142:34]
Adam Curry
Cambodia.
- [142:34]
John C. Dvorak
Cambodia. So that was the C and the D version. The E version is supposed to be pretty good, but I've owned a Saab and let me tell you, that was the crap car. Have you ever had a Saab?
- [142:45]
Adam Curry
I've never had a Saab, but I knew someone who had one and I used to drive it.
- [142:48]
John C. Dvorak
I had a Saab that ran and.
- [142:50]
Adam Curry
I thought it was. There was two about it I always thought was weird. One, the key to start the Saab was next to the council and it's like a vertical.
- [142:59]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah.
- [143:00]
Adam Curry
So if you spill a drink, it go right into the ignition thing and short it out.
- [143:04]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah, and.
- [143:04]
Adam Curry
And, and we spill drinks in this country.
- [143:07]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah, we do. Because. Yeah. And another problem, no cup holders. That was the second. So problem one, the key is right next to the handbrake. Number two, no cup holders. I had one. It was a side top 90 that ran on LPG in Europe. And. And it had a choke.
- [143:27]
Adam Curry
And.
- [143:30]
John C. Dvorak
Wow. It had a choke.
- [143:31]
Adam Curry
Was this in the 20s?
- [143:33]
John C. Dvorak
No, no, this was in the 80s. And. And if you were riding along and.
- [143:38]
Adam Curry
You pull, by the way, but stop. Not one zed in the audience knows what you mean when it says that. You said it has a choke out one.
- [143:45]
John C. Dvorak
Okay. Zetters. Don't look it up. If you actually know what a choke is, and no, it's not something that Daniel Brunetti would produce, then just let us know. So if you were driving along and you let up on the gas and you pulled the choke and then you pushed the choke down, hit the gas. You would get a big, big explosion, a big backfire. It was cool.
- [144:08]
Adam Curry
Well, that's funny. I used to take the air pollution car that I had and it was. We have a big hill over here in Richmond called Mosier. And you go to the top of the hill and then you would come down the hill and you turn the ignition off and floor it so it just pour gasoline into the system and then turn the ignition back on and it would sound like an atom bomb just went off.
- [144:32]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah, it was fun.
- [144:33]
Adam Curry
Very funny. But the SOBS I liked always were the old two stroke sobs.
- [144:40]
John C. Dvorak
Oh, I didn't have that. No, I had a four stroke.
- [144:42]
Adam Curry
The oldest sobs and they were still in the area for a long time were two stroke sobs. So they just made a racket and they smoked and it was a fabulous car. I never thought they were a bad car except for where the ignition was.
- [144:57]
John C. Dvorak
Scaramanga in the troll room. Last time when someone choked something of mine in the back of a Saab, I ended up with my second child. Okay, Scara Manga, go make some AI videos. Come on.
- [145:08]
Adam Curry
Yeah, yeah, get to work, laggards.
- [145:11]
John C. Dvorak
Really? I'm telling you, I mean, Sora 2 was already out. Where is our video? I mean, come on, how hard can it be? Anyway, back to our producers. They support us with time, talent and treasure. Boots on the Ground is fantastic. Organizing meetups, hitting people in the mouth. The most valuable thing you can do is hit someone in the mouth. Your wife, your brother, your sister, your mother, your child, your neighbor. Okay, sometimes you lose a friend or family member over it, but many times you actually draw very close and it builds friendships and keeps families together. The family that know agendas together stays together. This is a fact. We've proven it. 97% of all scientists know that this is true. And that's because there's no discovery in politics podcasting. Everybody thinks, well, if you do video.
- [146:04]
Adam Curry
Get on YouTube, then you get lots.
- [146:06]
John C. Dvorak
Of eyeballs and people come. No, no. The only way it works is with a recommendation. And I'd say there's a large portion of the no agenda producer pool that is embarrassed. They're embarrassed because they're like, I don't want to somebody think I'm a kook. But you'd be surprised. You'd be surprised how many people are primed and ready to become no agenda product producers. So that's time. It's talent and it's treasure. And over the years we have had many forms of talent and time put in. The time is now pretty much shrunk down to seven seconds of prompting for an image for the album art. It's still appreciated, but the pool is getting pretty, pretty polluted. So we do want to thank. Was this. See what this was? Capitalist agenda.
- [147:01]
Adam Curry
Yeah.
- [147:01]
John C. Dvorak
He's an actual artist. Still did the artwork for episode 810. We titled it Golf Ball all lowercase. And it was the no Agenda Records featuring the Al Gore rhythms live at the Golden Ballroom. And it inspired an end of show mix. Even so it's. It was perfect. And it was Al Gore on the. On the COVID of the record. Little 33 pin there. Hadn't even noticed it. Nice touch doing some kind of twist. What do you think that was? A twist. A salsa. What kind of dance is Al Gore doing there for us? Do you know? You muted yourself. This always happens. You've muted yourself. Come back to me. Come back to me.
- [147:46]
Adam Curry
Sorry, sorry. It looks like it's some sort of shuffle.
- [147:48]
John C. Dvorak
Shuffle. That's it. The shuffle. The shuffle, yeah.
- [147:53]
Adam Curry
Could be the twist. I mean, you know, you could make that move.
- [147:57]
John C. Dvorak
So let's see, what else did people submit? There was a lot of.
- [148:01]
Adam Curry
By the way, that Trump dance is basically a toned down twist.
- [148:05]
John C. Dvorak
Did you see Trump dancing in Malaysia?
- [148:08]
Adam Curry
No.
- [148:09]
John C. Dvorak
Oh, dude, it's hilarious. So he comes off the plane, there's a whole traditional Malaysian dance thing. And he goes up and he does this YMCA dance in front of front of them. I'm like, yeah, that's our president. Phenomenal. Tina ran in this morning. You. You won't believe it. Take a look at this. It was great. We had a lot of milking stuff which was marginal. The images are getting too complicated, you know, where it's. It's like photorealistic and there's a lot going on. Simple as better, I find.
- [148:54]
Adam Curry
Well, it depends on how funny it is.
- [148:56]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah.
- [148:57]
Adam Curry
There has to be some. Some note of humor.
- [149:01]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah.
- [149:01]
Adam Curry
I mean it doesn't 100% have to be humorous. If it's poignant, it would work. But generally speaking, if something. Someone gets us a laugh and it's well done, we will. We will pick that over anything else.
- [149:15]
John C. Dvorak
Yes. Oh, absolutely. But there really wasn't much. I mean a lot of like buddy movie, no agenda Curry Dvorak. You know, T. Typically we're not big on choosing art of our faces.
- [149:26]
Adam Curry
And no, we. That's because the first two years at least of the art was all us. All of it.
- [149:34]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah, we Got tired of that.
- [149:35]
Adam Curry
And now. And then we banned it.
- [149:36]
John C. Dvorak
And now if you look at the progression of our faces over the years, we look like two old coot idiots. Which means.
- [149:44]
Adam Curry
Well, not only that, but bearded berets, balding.
- [149:52]
John C. Dvorak
I mean, the last thing I want is to be faced with the reality of my aging. I was like, no. Hard. No, I'm not interested in that. Pass. Pass on that.
- [150:02]
Adam Curry
No, it's been. But besides that, it's been banned.
- [150:05]
John C. Dvorak
Yes. Yeah. And you look like the one where we look like Jansen Huang, like in the leather jackets and.
- [150:14]
Adam Curry
Yeah, there's something. And I've always got glasses on. I don't wear.
- [150:17]
John C. Dvorak
We both have glasses on. On in that one. It's like, no, I don't like it. Ashlin Speed. Of course that. That whole bit went nowhere. That's too bad. I didn't even hear from Ashlin.
- [150:29]
Adam Curry
She doesn't listen to the show anymore.
- [150:30]
John C. Dvorak
No, she's too busy crashing her Mazda on the street. Crash it on the track? Girl, you can't.
- [150:37]
Adam Curry
Most race car drivers can't drive on the street. They're yet of a lead foot.
- [150:41]
John C. Dvorak
Well, she's also a woman, let's be honest.
- [150:43]
Adam Curry
Yes. Double a double whammy.
- [150:47]
John C. Dvorak
She should try driving a saab. Saab 90 with a choke. It had that ugly yellow color too. That Saab was famous for.
- [150:57]
Adam Curry
Gosh, I wish I'd yellow.
- [151:00]
John C. Dvorak
I've had a lot of cars, a lot of. A lot of interesting cars over the years. Never anything really. Except for the Rolls was cool. That was back in the Rolls Royce days. Well, that was it. I think we saw that and we're like, yeah, that's good. Let's do that one. Was it anything. And of course we'd love something traditional for the 18th anniversary. And what am I seeing? Tote bags?
- [151:30]
Adam Curry
I don't know. I think the one that. That's what I call podcasting is fair.
- [151:35]
John C. Dvorak
Drop Coast. Yeah, it's pretty good.
- [151:37]
Adam Curry
Dropco.
- [151:38]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah. That's what you want to compete with.
- [151:39]
Adam Curry
The one I like the most. I'll tell you what, the one I like the most so far coming in.
- [151:43]
John C. Dvorak
The Mac and cheesecake.
- [151:45]
Adam Curry
No, not that one. Where is it?
- [151:51]
John C. Dvorak
Which one?
- [151:53]
Adam Curry
Well, now I'm looking, I can't find it. Oh, yeah, no, I like the TikTok algorithm one by Jeffrey Ray, but it's got. Doesn't have nothing to do with the anniversary, so it's probably not going to get picked. I just like it. I'll use it for the newsletter.
- [152:07]
John C. Dvorak
Okay. Maybe you could be ground Troops. Thanks, Coach. Coach Joe.
- [152:12]
Adam Curry
Ground troops is funny.
- [152:13]
John C. Dvorak
That's not sick.
- [152:16]
Adam Curry
It's funny, though. What would be better if it had, like, some shreds of a uniform in there.
- [152:21]
John C. Dvorak
Oh, you're horrible. You are horrible. All right. Hey. Of course, we always want to thank all of our producers who support us with their treasure with the finances. And it's very simple. In our value for value model, all you got to do is say to yourself, what does this podcast worth to me? I need to turn that into some coin. Well, this is how much. And that value is completely determined by you. Determined by how much you value things. And $5 could be a lot to you for some. 500 is. Let me tip those guys. Either way, all we. All we ask for is value. And that's why we give you the show free of charge because you're going to send the value back. You go tonoagenA donations.com and that. That's how you do it. And we always thank our executive and associate executive producers in this segment up front. That's people who are fortunate enough to spend $200 or more or that. And then you get the title of associate executive producer. And that can be used right there on IMDb.com where the famous Daniel Brunetti is as well. And I think. What's his face from? Cameron. I think he's also an executive producer, isn't he? Who? Cameron? Cameron, the Titanic director.
- [153:37]
Adam Curry
James Cameron.
- [153:39]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah, I think. Isn't he an executive producer?
- [153:41]
Adam Curry
Not that I know of.
- [153:42]
John C. Dvorak
Oh, I thought he was. I could be wrong. And we'll read your note in both cases. And I am never. I'm always amazed and delighted by how much people value the show. I'm always blown away. And now for 18 years we've been. Been doing this. It is just. It is. It's humbling. I know you think differently. You're like, that's what we deserve. But I found it to be humble.
- [154:08]
Adam Curry
I never said that.
- [154:09]
John C. Dvorak
I find it to be quite humbling as we start with our top.
- [154:12]
Adam Curry
Not. I don't feel it's. I'm not humbled. I am happy. I'm humble.
- [154:17]
John C. Dvorak
I'm humbled. I'm humbled.
- [154:19]
Adam Curry
I'm happy. I think it's great.
- [154:21]
John C. Dvorak
We go to Midland, Pennsylvania, for our top executive producer, Brandon Mo. Mango comes in with 1894. 63, which.
- [154:34]
Adam Curry
That's a show number. Donation with fees.
- [154:38]
John C. Dvorak
Oh, perfect. 1894. 63. Love you, love the show. No math needed. Call me Mr. Mango. The night of the sweet tooth, I will gladly call you that and look forward to it. Thank you very much, very much.
- [154:54]
Adam Curry
He also gets a.
- [154:56]
John C. Dvorak
Yes.
- [154:57]
Adam Curry
International Peace Prize.
- [154:59]
John C. Dvorak
Peace Prize. That's right. A thousand dollars while they last. While. While peace is still trending. And no agenda International Peace Prize. Did I see that? It's actually written in Swedish.
- [155:10]
Adam Curry
Yeah, no, Norwegian.
- [155:11]
John C. Dvorak
Norwegian. I'm sorry, Norwegian. Yeah. And it's in this. It's. It looks. I mean, not only does it look, it is an actual no agenda International Peace Prize. This thing is going to be dynamic.
- [155:21]
Adam Curry
On the other side of the. There's art.
- [155:23]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah. This is dynamite. I cannot wait to get mine. Do I get a Peace Prize?
- [155:28]
Adam Curry
I got you. Yeah, I got one, but it didn't put my middle initial C was missing and I bitched about it.
- [155:37]
John C. Dvorak
Oh, well, you got to go back to the committee, the Nobel committee. Talk to them about that. That's no good. Yes, Brandon, you can look forward to that. Noagendarings.com will be the place where you let us know where to send that. Thank you. Thank you so much.
- [155:48]
Adam Curry
I'm going to do the next two, okay. Starting with Bowman McMahon in Utopia, Texas. There's really a Utopia, Texas?
- [155:56]
John C. Dvorak
Absolutely.
- [155:57]
Adam Curry
Where is it?
- [155:58]
John C. Dvorak
It's right next to.
- [156:01]
Adam Curry
I don't know, right next to Hell Texas. Right next to Paris, Texas. I don't know.
- [156:08]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah.
- [156:09]
Adam Curry
10, 30, 26. Another big donation that would give him a Nobel. Nobel. Not a Nobel. It's a no agenda Peace Prize. International Peace Prize. And he's got no note at all. So let's give him a double up. Karma. You've got karma and then a rando. And this is the biggest one we've received so far. A rando strike. Which means it is a bitcoin donation of $1,008.39 came in. We haven't got a note from anybody claiming this yet, so we'll give him a double up. Karma.
- [156:44]
John C. Dvorak
Or her. But that is the second time, because you recall that I got one at the. No. In the meetup. That was a bitcoin donation. So it's the second instance.
- [156:52]
Adam Curry
Is this it? Maybe. Is this the same one?
- [156:54]
John C. Dvorak
No, it's not.
- [156:55]
Adam Curry
You've got.
- [156:58]
Senator Lindsey Graham
Karma.
- [156:58]
John C. Dvorak
No, it's not, because that one already showed up on the spreadsheet.
- [157:03]
Adam Curry
Okay.
- [157:03]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah. All right, well, let us know. Sir Earhopper, Pacifica, California. $1,000 International Peace Prize for you. And Sir Earhopper says, gentlemen, I accept my Peace Prize with an open heart and satisfied mind. Please continue to be the best podcast in the universe. We have decamped from the AI infected NorCal corridor. For Colorado. My 5G tan has never been richer by NORAD says Sir Earhopper. Thank you very much.
- [157:34]
Adam Curry
Kevin and Tori Primo in Trinity, Florida. They sent a check in for 367. 67. I have the note right here.
- [157:45]
John C. Dvorak
Seven six seven.
- [157:47]
Adam Curry
Yeah, a lot of six seven. We got to get the six seven thing formalized. Yeah, but he talks about it in here and I thought this was interesting. Adam's insightful deconstruction of the 67 trend prompted this long overdue transfer of value. As parents of teens, we were perplexed by the trend until we embraced the fact that is simply meaningless. Annoyance quickly gave way to acceptance. And now affirmative we relish in dropping a well placed six seven within earshot of our kids and their friends.
- [158:20]
John C. Dvorak
Six seven six. Come on, John, do it. Six, seven six.
- [158:24]
Adam Curry
I'm not doing it. At first we were seen as cool, but now we are Cringe or Ohio.
- [158:33]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah, Ohio was lame.
- [158:36]
Adam Curry
When did this deluded me.
- [158:39]
John C. Dvorak
Well, you're not.
- [158:40]
Adam Curry
When did Ohio. Hey man, Ohio. I don't. How do you use it? Well, how's the usage?
- [158:44]
John C. Dvorak
I think it started January 20, 2025. Why? J.D. vance, Ohio.
- [158:54]
Adam Curry
Oh, so Ohio. Oh man, it means lame because this is a way of getting into. Okay, yeah, I believe.
- [159:00]
John C. Dvorak
I believe so. I. I could be.
- [159:01]
Adam Curry
I think you're right. It makes sense.
- [159:03]
John C. Dvorak
I believe.
- [159:03]
Adam Curry
Thank you for your courage and keep up your great work. Sincerely, Kevin and Tory Primo in Trinity, Florida.
- [159:11]
John C. Dvorak
I love the notes and notice that the donation segment has been more content than anything. That's why people are missing out when they don't listen to some. Some donations.
- [159:20]
Adam Curry
Yeah, this Ohio thing is important.
- [159:24]
John C. Dvorak
The whole world knows what Ohio is.
- [159:26]
Adam Curry
I never heard it.
- [159:28]
John C. Dvorak
David Coonan Sprundell.
- [159:30]
Adam Curry
Oh, you know what it is? I'm going to places like Monterey Foods and, and. And grocery stores where there's a bunch of people in their 60s wearing that's what it is.
- [159:42]
John C. Dvorak
Sprindel. I've never heard of Sprindel in the Netherlands, but it apparently is a place. 333.33 and David says congratulations on 18 years of the best podcast in the universe. I raise a glass of Robert Modavi private selection Bourbon barrel aged Cabernet Sauvignon to you and to myself as I turn 38 today.
- [160:01]
Adam Curry
He got it in the Netherlands?
- [160:03]
John C. Dvorak
I guess so.
- [160:04]
Adam Curry
Yeah. I think they make it more by the ton. I should mention, by the way I was flipping about, the guy said, well, it's just a bunch of really good wine that they rebottle. No, the way you can. This is a pre tip. I'm not going to do this.
- [160:18]
John C. Dvorak
We have people in the Middle east loving these tips. Your wine tips.
- [160:22]
Adam Curry
I'm going to just give a little heads up on how to spot what would be sourced wine as opposed to wine that's made. And I don't have a bottle of the bourbon aged in front of. Of me. But I'll. But there's. There's a rule at. There's a rule regarding how it's presented it. It'll have the winery name and say produced and bottled by the winery. Oh, and when it says produced and bottled by, that means they made it. They make. They grow the grapes. They grew the grapes. They made the wine.
- [160:53]
John C. Dvorak
You know, I met it.
- [160:55]
Adam Curry
Sorry, let me finish.
- [160:56]
John C. Dvorak
I'm sorry.
- [160:57]
Adam Curry
And then, and then when you says, Vince, minted and bottled by, that means that they bought juice.
- [161:07]
John C. Dvorak
Juice.
- [161:09]
Adam Curry
And they finished the job of fermenting it.
- [161:12]
John C. Dvorak
Bottled juice.
- [161:13]
Adam Curry
So this is from someone, in other words, came from someone else. But the stuff that your friend was talking about, which is where you have a really good quality wine, there's an overrun. So you give it to some schlockmeister and have them bottle it up and sell it cheap. Even though it's a good quality product, which is a common practice in California. It says cellared and bottled by.
- [161:35]
John C. Dvorak
Oh, there you go.
- [161:36]
Adam Curry
That means they had. It's like somebody else made a really good wine and couldn't sell it and they put it in the basement loaded.
- [161:42]
John C. Dvorak
On somebody and they put it in the basement and called it their own.
- [161:45]
Adam Curry
So it says sellered by. And all they did was put a label on it.
- [161:48]
John C. Dvorak
Combined with my previous executive producer donation, I made $4 weekly donation, running since October 2019. This puts me well into roundtable territory. Please knight me, Sir David. A. Yes, Brabant. No jingles, but I would like to request some house karma. Just for your house. Or do you want to sell it? Or you got some karma for that? You got. You got ghosts in your house. Thank you for all you do, says David Koonan in Sprindel, the Netherlands.
- [162:17]
Senator Lindsey Graham
You've got karma.
- [162:20]
Adam Curry
Yeah. There's Duke. Sir Dr. Shaky.
- [162:24]
John C. Dvorak
Oh, good.
- [162:24]
Adam Curry
Oh, so is Sharky. St. Peter's Missouri.
- [162:28]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah.
- [162:29]
Adam Curry
Three three, three three three. Congratulations on 18 years. You both have been a blessing and a godsend, both during these dark times. Is it possible to stream episode 17?
- [162:43]
John C. Dvorak
No. 1 episode 1. That's one and a question mark, dude.
- [162:47]
Adam Curry
Oh, I'm sorry. I thought it was a 17. Wow. Well, I mean, I looking. I'm reading From a distance here, I got. It's blurry, the font's small. I got all kinds of problems. I'd like to broadcast it across FEMA Region 7 and 4. No.
- [163:04]
John C. Dvorak
What do you mean no?
- [163:05]
Adam Curry
It stinks.
- [163:07]
John C. Dvorak
Hey, I. You know, I'm going on a vacation in November. We'll have to have another vacation.
- [163:12]
Adam Curry
Love, Duke, Doctor, Sheriff Shaky and having.
- [163:16]
John C. Dvorak
Another vacation show coming up.
- [163:18]
Adam Curry
Well, what you want to play episode one is.
- [163:21]
John C. Dvorak
I think we just play.
- [163:22]
Adam Curry
We have never done a rerun and we're not going to start now.
- [163:24]
John C. Dvorak
It's only 38 minutes. Well, we'll have to rerun it four times.
- [163:29]
Adam Curry
Over and over and over.
- [163:31]
John C. Dvorak
Yes. All right. Thank you, Duke. Sir, Dr. Shaky the. Up next we have Matthew Burns from Coston, British Columbia, Canada. British Columbia is beautiful. I hope this. This is 35783 dollary dues from Candanavia. So even though that translates to about $5 in America, you will be an executive producer. This donation of 255.56 USD plus fees 357.83 Canadian should make this my second executive producer title. You really take an advantage of the system. Yeah, I can hope you can bump me up from associate. Well, yes we can. I've been listening to the show since 2013 and with this donation I finally reached knighthood. Your show and same perspectives on the craziness of our world really helped me keep me steady during all this time in a roundabout way. Your show also played an important role in bringing me to Christ. And I was very happy to hear about your faith journey along this time as well. Adam, please knight me. Sir Burns of the good future. I would like to have a hot coffee and strobwafel at the round table, please. I'm glad I caught that. I hadn't seen that, but I have strobwafels. It's a little musty, but because I didn't order fresh ones, this donation is also a shout out to my wife's birthday on November 6th. I'll keep her name anonymous, just call her Sir Burns Keeper. In addition, bless you. It turns out our wedding anniversary is the same day as the show's ending anniversary. This was not planned when we got married last year, but we are both very pleased that it works out this way. Happy first anniversary to my keeper. Please also send some baby making karma our way as we hope to expand our lovely little family. God bless you both and thank you for your courage and we will see you at the roundtable. Soon to be Sir Burns of The good future.
- [165:28]
Adam Curry
You'Ve got.
- [165:34]
Senator Lindsey Graham
Karma.
- [165:36]
Adam Curry
Sarcastic in yo missing Pennsylvania. Why you missing 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. John no agenda has earned the right to win. Winning, winning. Here's to 18 years. No jingles, no karma. Honorable circastic of the Nomad Nomad.
- [165:59]
John C. Dvorak
Another Dutchman comes in. Pierre Maass from Kadir and Kir in the Netherlands. 233.75. Dear John and Adam, sorry about the long note, but my sons and I would like to ask for the help of the no Agenda community. My wife passed away last December. Wait, didn't we already read this note? Yes, we read this note.
- [166:15]
Adam Curry
Did we?
- [166:16]
John C. Dvorak
Yes. From asbestos related cancer. I have already connected you to.
- [166:20]
Adam Curry
Oh yes, we have read this note already. It probably was on the cusp of some some of the spreadsheet or who knows how it got.
- [166:26]
John C. Dvorak
Yes, well anyway he has been connected to Rob the Constitutional lawyer and we had another producer come in whose brother in law is an asbestos lawyer. He's somewhat of a douchebag apparently. But you've been perfect. That's the one you want. So we've taken care of you for that. Sorry to hear about that. Pierre Mason. Let me know if the connections work. We are a full service show. We are full service show.
- [166:50]
Adam Curry
Eli, the coffee guys up in Bensonville, Illinois. Happy 18 years. He writes. You two have covered a lot of events over the years and your wealth of knowledge is what makes the show great. Plus the jingles, tip of the day and the rest. For old time sake, you can hail a taxi at the end of the show. Like back in the day, I always wondered where that inside joke came from.
- [167:13]
John C. Dvorak
Wow, you used to do that instead of Love my chicken and then you used to go taxi. Remember that?
- [167:22]
Adam Curry
Not vaguely, but I'm more interested in the way you ridiculed me here for what I do.
- [167:27]
John C. Dvorak
Now I have to keep up my meanness. Apparently it's part of the appeal.
- [167:31]
Adam Curry
I just wanted to point this out to the people out there who have taken making keeping score.
- [167:35]
John C. Dvorak
Keeping score. It's point of the charm of the.
- [167:37]
Adam Curry
Show to four more years and then some. And for the producers who want some amazing fresh roasted coffee, visit giggy coffee today. Gigawatt coffee roasters.com and use the code ITM20 for 20% off your order. That's. Thank you for your encouragement. Stay caffeinated. Eli, the coffee gate did send me a picture of his roaster.
- [168:00]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah, so since you asked for the past two minutes, knowing this donation was coming up, I've been shaking my cushion.
- [168:11]
Adam Curry
Bump it just Bang it once and it takes care of your.
- [168:14]
John C. Dvorak
It says to activate nitro, shake vigorously. Which sounds like a very bad thing. But here's the problem. When you shake his cold brew coffee.
- [168:23]
Adam Curry
Does it mean do you shake the can vigorously or do you just shake both, actually. Well, see, there it is.
- [168:30]
Margaret
You hear that?
- [168:32]
John C. Dvorak
Then it has like some minor carbonation type effect.
- [168:35]
Adam Curry
Well, it's nitrogen. Yeah.
- [168:38]
John C. Dvorak
He has nitrogen in the can.
- [168:40]
Adam Curry
Yeah, this little capsule in there. There. It's got compressed nitrogen and it puts a little kind of a faux foam in there, that is.
- [168:49]
John C. Dvorak
And hey, man.
- [168:50]
Adam Curry
But it's not. I don't think. I don't know how much CO2 is involved.
- [168:53]
John C. Dvorak
Gets you really high.
- [168:54]
Adam Curry
No, it doesn't.
- [168:56]
John C. Dvorak
Have you been drinking it all morning?
- [168:58]
Adam Curry
While you drink it all morning?
- [169:02]
John C. Dvorak
Baron Victor Corvallis, Oregon 218. Happy 18th anniversary from someone who has been here since the daily sort of source code. That's right, Baron Victor of the Willamette Valley. Thank you so much. Yes, you have been a part of a big part of my life, including my getting my fixed wing license in Willamette Valley.
- [169:23]
Adam Curry
Sir Layton in Dothan, Alabama. 210 60. Was that the opening of the can or is that what that.
- [169:32]
John C. Dvorak
No, that was me just going with something you hate. You hate that when people go, yeah, I do.
- [169:38]
Adam Curry
Everyone. But that's not me, it's everyone. Happy 8th from Southeast Alabama, another Alabama Babamian. I thank you for all the great shows. Sir Layton La Ron, the Lay Ron. I'm sorry, Lay Ron.
- [169:53]
John C. Dvorak
Dame Zelda is in San Jose, California. $205 yellow. So that means a birthday's involved. Dear John and Adam, your show really is the best podcast in the universe. Thank you for staying sane and balance in the sea of chaos and prosperity propaganda. Also thank you, John, for solving my recurrent nightmare mystery. This is very interesting. I'll get to it in a minute. Turns out you really can't dial a phone in a dream. And it's not some psychological issue that my subconscious is trying to communicate to me in my dreams. Wow. Life changing information. It's my birthday this Tuesday the 28th, so please add me to the birthday list and play the shape shifting Jews jingle. Much love, Dame Zelda of Silicon Valley. Silicon Valley, patron of the wandering Jews. You know, we got a lot of feedback on you, which. Which was at the end of the show. A lot of feedback on your. On your dream where you were incapable of doing many things.
- [170:50]
Adam Curry
Yeah, I had a couple. I have a professor of neurological guide professor down at usc wrote it in and he gave me some good information about what these things are called.
- [171:03]
John C. Dvorak
Yes, they're called dreams. Right.
- [171:05]
Adam Curry
No, there's a. There's certain names of specific. This is. He's a specific. He's into the things.
- [171:11]
John C. Dvorak
No, I know he's. He's written several books. I think I. I'm supposed to do it. I think I was supposed to do a. An endorsement. And I sent it to you and you never sent it back. And so we didn't get the endorsement on the book.
- [171:22]
Adam Curry
Oh, I didn't get it. If I'd known. I'm a blurb meister. I'll endorse anything you block.
- [171:27]
John C. Dvorak
Box me.
- [171:30]
Adam Curry
So the. But he has some good information, which I'll read in one of the notes. Maybe.
- [171:34]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah, you should put that in your substack maybe.
- [171:38]
Adam Curry
But somebody else came up with one. He says that he knows about this. These problems with dialing a phone and writing. He says what you want to do to try to get into the lucidity of the dream, where you can know that you're dreaming is in a dream. Examine your hands. He says once you start getting into the habit of examining your hands, you'll see for some reason. I don't know, I haven't done this. I don't know what you see. But you don't see your hands. You see. Whatever you see is like, tells you.
- [172:10]
John C. Dvorak
You'Re in a dream or you're in the Matrix. I don't know. Wow. Dame Zelda, thank you very much. I'm going to play the whole 30 seconds of this one for you. Roll up, roll up for the magical shapeshifting juice. Step right this way.
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Adam Curry
Roll up, roll up for the shape shifting juice. Roll up the magical shape shifting juice. Roll up a little illustration. The magical shape shifting juice. Roll up. It's such an aggravation. The magic.
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John C. Dvorak
Yeah, Classic Secret Agent Paul.
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Adam Curry
Yeah, One more dream angle. Somebody else wrote in saying if you want to get into lucid dreaming, which is the kind of dreams you. You're aware of, as opposed to vivid dreams, but lucid dream, where you're in the dream, you know you're in the dream and you can do some kind of control. He likes to shoot guns. He says, by the way, when you shoot guns, you can't hit anything. And so is terrible. But he says to get into lucid dreams. I haven't tried this. I don't know if I will. You take three hours before you go to bed. You have a couple of tablespoons of potato starch. Now, this could be Bull crap. But he claims that this will trigger lucid dreaming.
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John C. Dvorak
Oh, so if you have some potato starch, it will trigger lucid dreaming.
- [173:38]
Adam Curry
That's what he says.
- [173:38]
John C. Dvorak
Interesting.
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Adam Curry
Now, we have a couple of. There's a wine. I don't have the name of it handy. I'll make tip of the day if I ever dig it out. I have a couple bottles left. We had this wine a couple of times. There are alcoholic products or fermented products out there. If you drink them, you will have. I don't know if they're lucid, vivid, or what. You'll have some of the damnedest dreams you've ever had.
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John C. Dvorak
Oh, yeah, that's called Andres.
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Adam Curry
Yeah. Well, that's probably true.
- [174:06]
John C. Dvorak
Well, I made a wine joke.
- [174:07]
Adam Curry
A wine joke. Who else better than golf ball? Sir Knight DC In Oregon. No, he's not in Oregon. He's in. That's his.
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John C. Dvorak
He's in Oregon. Yeah.
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Adam Curry
No, that's. Or that's. Yeah, Oregon. What am I thinking? $200 and what am I thinking? $200 and two cents. Sir Knight DC ITM gentlemen, I appreciate the rousing you guys. Give each other. Gives the show an edge.
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John C. Dvorak
That's right. We got it. We're edgy. We are edgy.
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Adam Curry
Yeah. Doesn't like it.
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John C. Dvorak
Yeah. SDG Oakland, CA 180 for the show, plus 20 for associate executive producer. 200 total. Congrats. Throw some rev al out to the community.
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Adam Curry
Linda Lupatkin in Lakewood, Colorado. Jobs, Karma for a competitive edge. She writes with a resume that gets results. Go to ImageMakers Inc.com for all your executive. Whoops. Scroll off. For all your executive and job search needs.
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John C. Dvorak
Resume and job search.
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Adam Curry
Job. Okay, reread.
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John C. Dvorak
Just reread, Reread.
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Adam Curry
Double click. Make sure you have it. Okay. I'm going to bring it from scratch.
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John C. Dvorak
Make good jobs Karma.
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Adam Curry
For a competitive edge with a resume that gets results. Go to ImageMakers Inc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs. That's Image Makers, Inc. And that's with a K. Work with Linda Liu, Duchess of jobs and writer of winning resumes. Happy 18th.
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John C. Dvorak
Yeah, we didn't need the ad lib, but okay. Well, it's. We'll take it as a read.
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Adam Curry
So jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs Karma. Tireless.
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John C. Dvorak
Tireless. Linda and Linda.
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Adam Curry
She closes this out for show.
- [176:13]
John C. Dvorak
Yes, she does.
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Adam Curry
For the 18. Oh, what are we? 18 oh, 10. 18 10. 18. 11. 11.
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John C. Dvorak
18 11. That's right.
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Adam Curry
Thank you to be War of 1812.
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John C. Dvorak
Thank you to the Executive and associate executive producers for our 18th anniversary. We appreciate all of you, we appreciate all of our producers. Of course we will thank the rest of our producers $50 and above in the second. It's going to be a long show. Alert the affiliates. But that's usually what happens with an anniversary show. So it's good. And we've brought you pure content this time, as we always try to do in the donation segment, because it's not just value for value, it's not just the international lifestyle. It is in fact, it is a way of life and we love living it. Thanks to you. You can go tonoen Agenda donations dot com. Make your support of the show known at any time, any amount. Set up a recurring donation, any amount, any frequency. No Agenda donations dot com. Thank you to these anniversary show producers.
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Adam Curry
Our formula is this.
- [177:13]
John C. Dvorak
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
- [177:18]
Adam Curry
Thank you. Order. Order.
- [177:24]
John C. Dvorak
Shut up, slave.
- [177:26]
Adam Curry
Shut up, slave. Got a little AI here.
- [177:34]
John C. Dvorak
Little AI.
- [177:35]
Adam Curry
You may have seen this.
- [177:36]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah, I saw this was actually quite good. I, I, I think that RT deserves some form of award for this.
- [177:43]
Adam Curry
It's a, it's pretty decent. This is a, a promotion that they ran about themselves because they have an along with ours.
- [177:51]
John C. Dvorak
20, I think 20 years, something like that.
- [177:54]
Adam Curry
They, they do have us beat, man.
- [177:55]
John C. Dvorak
We've been around almost as long as rt. That says something.
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Adam Curry
Yeah, yeah. Gun smoke. Here we go. Do you ever catch yourself questioning, more like, why do I always parrot everything the US State Department says? Or why I always ask, do you condemn Hamas but never Israel?
- [178:12]
Margaret
Why I never said sorry for spreading the debunked Trump riot Russiagate hoax?
- [178:17]
Adam Curry
Why I support every illegal war the US has launched this century.
- [178:21]
John C. Dvorak
Why I can't stop lying that Joe Biden was young and healthy enough for the presidency. Why we ignore our rock bottom ratings and pretend people still want to watch.
- [178:29]
Adam Curry
The same old bullshit? The only reason we're asking is because RT generated this video and made us do it.
- [178:35]
John C. Dvorak
So you'll never get answers.
- [178:37]
Adam Curry
At least not from us.
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John C. Dvorak
Happy anniversary to rt.
- [178:41]
Adam Curry
I may be an AI, but there's no way I'm saying, saying that.
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John C. Dvorak
That was good. That was very cute. It's not like Scaramanga would make that for us. Think about the virality of it.
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Adam Curry
Yeah, it was. Yeah.
- [178:58]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah.
- [178:59]
Adam Curry
Although RT stuff has been banned in a lot of places, including for a.
- [179:04]
John C. Dvorak
While that you couldn't even get it on your computer.
- [179:07]
Adam Curry
I know.
- [179:07]
John C. Dvorak
They really, there were Internet service providers who were blocking it, so, so crazy little sports ball. Sports ball for you, everybody. You Know me, I'm the sports ball guy of the show. So I'm going to bring you some sports ball. This is Nikolai Vucevic. You know him, right?
- [179:24]
Adam Curry
Probably, yeah.
- [179:25]
John C. Dvorak
He's the center for the Bulls. Hello from Chicago. You know him?
- [179:30]
Adam Curry
I never met him.
- [179:32]
John C. Dvorak
Well, I mean he's tall.
- [179:33]
Adam Curry
He's tall.
- [179:35]
John C. Dvorak
Centers aren't always that tall.
- [179:37]
Adam Curry
They always. There's not a center in the league that's not at least 611.
- [179:41]
John C. Dvorak
6 11, yeah. Well, I'm gonna look that up. He is very concerned about sports betting on sports ball. Gambling is a big problem, not only here, but worldwide. But I think now that it's, you know, got into, you know, sports here. A lot of people are involved in it, a lot of people gamble and it's, you know, unfortunately a lot of people get stuck in it and it's hard to get out. It's available on your phone. All you to do is download app. You can just play. We as players feel it a lot when we step on the court nowadays. You hear more often like before you used to hear like hey, Vuch, you know, get a win or hey, do this and that. Now it's like, hey, my parlay is 10 rebounds, I need 10 boards. Or hey, my parlay is 15 points. Or you come out of timeout. You hear people say that and a lot of times you turn as like 14, 15 year old kids and honestly it pisses me off because it's disrespectful to the game. You know, we put so much work in to try to do the right thing, to put good product on the court and play the right way and try to win for our team and people focus on, you know, if I'm going to get 10 rebounds or not or for anybody else. I think it's very unfortunate. But you know, even back home we have big issues with that. There's a lot of areas, a lot of places you can go and gamble and sports.
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Adam Curry
So yeah, I mean, you know, it's.
- [181:00]
John C. Dvorak
A big problem for the world. Big, big. As you know, it's a big addiction for people.
- [181:04]
Adam Curry
So it's something that the NBA is.
- [181:06]
John C. Dvorak
Going to have to, you know, look at and try to find a way to fix it as much as possible. But yeah, it's unfortunate we're dealing with it, but no, we'll see what comes out of it. Six nine. He's six nine.
- [181:18]
Adam Curry
That guy's six nine. No wonder they can't win. Most of the centers in the league are seven foot foot plus.
- [181:24]
John C. Dvorak
Well, he's six, nine. Yeah, but this is a problem. It's the problem.
- [181:27]
Adam Curry
Yeah. And he's very erudite. I'm glad they put him on to explain the situation. I couldn't understand a word he said.
- [181:33]
John C. Dvorak
Wow. He was saying. He was. Get some headphones. He was saying, John, wear headphones. You can understand things better with headphones. Well, you don't wear glasses. He's saying that these are 14 year old kids doing these prisoners prop bets like I. Hey man, you. You couldn't. You. They're yelling at him during the game. I need 10 rebounds, man. 10 rebounds. It's ruining the game. It's ruining everything. All sports.
- [182:02]
Adam Curry
Guess what? Sports leagues all. And not only encourage it, but they're all partnering with. With very big gambling operation. The NBA is one of them, of course.
- [182:14]
John C. Dvorak
And he's. He's against it is what he's saying.
- [182:16]
Adam Curry
Well he should. They should all be against it. The. The game is rigged. Yeah, well we've all. But this show has. What's the word I want to use? I can't. Trying to think of a bad lousy word. Positive. There's one.
- [182:34]
John C. Dvorak
We remit. We remit.
- [182:37]
Adam Curry
We have said forever because we've been predicting the winners of the especially the international games. Right on the money based on. On geopolitical action going on. And you predict the winner. So there's. So it filters down. These games have always been rigged.
- [182:57]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah, it's rigged, man. It's bad for the kids. It's bad for it. By the way, man, when Rogan's podcast is filled with gambling ads.
- [183:08]
Adam Curry
Oh, is it all of a sudden?
- [183:10]
John C. Dvorak
No, it's been that way for a while. I mean and it's not. It's not even. I don't even think it's him. I don't think he does the reads himself on those. Those just inserted Dyn. Who knows where it comes from? Maybe Spotify is just jamming it in. No, I don't listen on Spotify. So who knows where it comes from? Meg Megaphone does it. Yeah. And it always like, you know, if you got a problem, call this number. And now you got five free dollars. Sign up now, kids. It'll be great. Your first bet is good for 24 hours. Yeah, but gamble, gamble, gamble. What could possibly go wrong?
- [183:40]
Adam Curry
That's a good business.
- [183:40]
John C. Dvorak
I'd like to hear from any of our producers who have had a gambling addiction. We know we got them.
- [183:48]
Adam Curry
Oh yeah. Well, we have a. With a. With approximately a million listeners just under. Yeah, we have. Which is the size of San Francisco. The entire town, only not as retarded.
- [183:59]
John C. Dvorak
How about that?
- [184:01]
Adam Curry
Yeah. Isn't that interesting? It's actually better.
- [184:04]
John C. Dvorak
But we're much better than San Francisco.
- [184:07]
Adam Curry
We have people from all walks of life that listen to, to this show.
- [184:11]
John C. Dvorak
Yes, we do. That's what makes it so cool. And you know what? They should have prop bets on our show. Now you're talking. Will Adam be mean?
- [184:20]
Adam Curry
There's an over and under.
- [184:21]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah. What's the over under on? What are we doing?
- [184:23]
Adam Curry
Over, under.315. I'd say 315 would be the over and under for the length.
- [184:27]
John C. Dvorak
How about, how about. How many times will Adam be mean to John?
- [184:31]
Adam Curry
Oh, I'd say the over and under. And that would be 10.
- [184:37]
John C. Dvorak
Let's, let's move on and let's listen to Israel controlling America. America, shall we? Just a few hours after arriving on Thursday, US Secretary of State Marco Rubio.
- [184:47]
Adam Curry
Met with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Secretary Rubio Marco, welcome again to Jerusalem.
- [184:57]
John C. Dvorak
He's the latest of a flurry of.
- [184:58]
Adam Curry
High profile US figures to arrive in the region following the ceasefire agreement that was signed two weeks ago. After the special envoy to the Middle East, Steve Witkoff, Trump's senior adviser, Jared.
- [185:09]
John C. Dvorak
Kushner, and Prime Minister J.D.
- [185:11]
Adam Curry
Vance, the head of the CIA, John Ratcliffe, is expected to arrive next.
- [185:16]
John C. Dvorak
The Vice President just left. We crossed on the way and then.
- [185:19]
Senator Lindsey Graham
I'm here now today because this is a priority.
- [185:22]
John C. Dvorak
It's a very important achievement, but there's.
- [185:24]
Senator Lindsey Graham
More work to be done and bigger.
- [185:25]
John C. Dvorak
Achievements that lie ahead.
- [185:27]
Senator Lindsey Graham
And so we're here to work on that.
- [185:28]
John C. Dvorak
And we feel very positive and confident that we're going to get there despite substantial obstacles. We're going to get.
- [185:35]
Adam Curry
The latest obstacle was a vote in the Israeli Parliament on whether the country should annex the West Bank. Speaking before boarding the airplane, the vice President was not impressed. If it was a political stunt, it was a very stupid political stunt, and I personally take some insult to it.
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John C. Dvorak
The west bank is not going to.
- [185:54]
Adam Curry
Be annexed by Israel. The policy of the Trump administration is that the west bank will not be. Be annexed by Israel. That will continue to be our policy. Netanyahu said that the vote was organized by the opposition, but many in his camp have been pressuring the Prime Minister to annex the west bank for years. I will not allow Israel to annex the West Bank. No, I will not allow it. It's not going to happen. The text would need to be approved four times in Parliament to go through. But on Thursday, Foreign Minister Gideon Saar said.
- [186:24]
John C. Dvorak
Said that the process would be suspended. All right, so we'll see. We'll see. If they annex it, then they're in charge. If it doesn't happen, then Trump's in charge. That's very.
- [186:32]
Adam Curry
I think Vance was right.
- [186:34]
John C. Dvorak
Oh, of course. It's a political stunt. Of course.
- [186:37]
Adam Curry
Yeah. And it was. Insulted him personally.
- [186:39]
John C. Dvorak
Yes.
- [186:40]
Adam Curry
They're trying to put him in his place. Yeah.
- [186:43]
John C. Dvorak
Well, we'll see. We'll see. Bad news for the subprime, subprime loan market. I don't know. I have not listened to the most recent DH Unplugged. But this is about subprime auto loans. Have you been following this?
- [187:06]
Adam Curry
Not at all.
- [187:06]
Margaret
Hey, Scott.
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Adam Curry
Yeah.
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Margaret
It's the private credit side of the business that has seen a real sentiment shift. Apollo, Ares, Blue Owl and KKR seeing significant declines week to date while those more exposed to to private equity think TPG and Carlyle. They've held up. Okay. Two high profile bankruptcies in the auto finance space leading to a broad based selloff in the publicly traded alternatives firms. Tricolor and First Brands bankruptcies each within the last few weeks have shed a new light on the risks of over leverage and subprime borrowers. Hedge fund manager Jim Chano slamming private credit in an interview with the Financial Times Times saying, quote, I suspect we're going to see more of these things like First Brands and others when the cycle ultimately reverses. He said the $2 trillion private credit sector is akin to the packaging of subprime mortgages during the 2008 crisis because of the layers of people in between the source of money and the use of money. Typical direct lenders sit toward the top of the capital stack, meaning they would get paid back before equity and and other layers of debt in a bankruptcy.
- [188:10]
John C. Dvorak
So I didn't know this was how intricate this was, but so the banks don't really want to do auto loans anymore. So all these, this private equity is doing kind of they're doing loans, lending money to these companies that have the buy here, pay here, borrow here outfits. And probably a lot of the immigrants who were here illegally, they just got in their cars and drove back to Mexico and no one's paying back these car loans. And that's putting these private equity guys in somewhat of a bind.
- [188:46]
Adam Curry
There's a lot of problems in the banking sector right now. The main thing is a lot of it has to do with these same guys doing double dealing and creating kind of virtual Ponzi schemes by selling off the same asset to more than one buyer. It's Almost like everyone trying to do the duplicate of what the producers movie, if you remember that with tried to accomplish by making a flop. Springtime, Springtime for Hitler, the Musical.
- [189:17]
John C. Dvorak
Huh. And. And. But then it wasn't a flop and now they're in trouble.
- [189:22]
Adam Curry
Yeah. Whoa.
- [189:23]
John C. Dvorak
Well, the car sector in general is very interesting. Those numb nuts at Porsche who thought they would jump on the bandwagon screwed it up.
- [189:31]
Senator Lindsey Graham
Profits at German car make maker Porsche plunged by nearly 96% in the first.
- [189:36]
Adam Curry
Nine months this year.
- [189:38]
Senator Lindsey Graham
Porsche said the drop in profits was.
- [189:40]
Adam Curry
Due to a change in strategy as the company shifted its focus back to.
- [189:44]
Senator Lindsey Graham
Combustion engines after weak demand for its electric vehicle.
- [189:49]
John C. Dvorak
After years of roaring down the Autobahn, a speed bump for Porsche, the iconic sports carmaker notched up a spectacular third quarter loss of almost 1 billion euros.
- [189:58]
Adam Curry
As it grappled with the costs of returning to petrol and delaying its electric vehicle rollout.
- [190:03]
Senator Lindsey Graham
Operating profit, which strips out some costs.
- [190:05]
Adam Curry
Such as tax, fell to 40 million.
- [190:07]
John C. Dvorak
Euros for the first nine months of the year.
- [190:09]
Adam Curry
Porsche revved up its electric vehicle strategy with the launch of its electric car project, Mission R. This concept embodies everything.
- [190:17]
John C. Dvorak
That Porsche what it is, performance, design and sustainability. All electric, high, high performance and efficient. This is a new mission out. Then in September, Porsche went into reverse. The sports car maker said it would delay the introduction of some fully electric cars and extend the life combustion engine and hybrid models.
- [190:39]
Adam Curry
The reason was lack of growth in demand for high performance electric vehicles.
- [190:42]
John C. Dvorak
And there were significant costs associated with.
- [190:45]
Adam Curry
The original aggressive EV strategy.
- [190:48]
John C. Dvorak
Porsche's parent company, Volkswagen, said it had taken a punishing 5 billion euro profit hit to cover the costs of Porsche's product rejig. Yeah, like we could have told them this was a dumb idea.
- [191:00]
Adam Curry
Oh, the same thing kind of happened to Ferrari. Yes, they took a beating because they tried to do some electric stuff and if. And then they. We actually talked about this on the DH Unplug show, which is every Tuesday.
- [191:13]
John C. Dvorak
Every Tuesday, 8 o' clock central time.
- [191:16]
Adam Curry
The live chat room.
- [191:16]
John C. Dvorak
That's right.
- [191:17]
Adam Curry
Live stream.
- [191:18]
John C. Dvorak
Live stream.
- [191:20]
Adam Curry
Live. Is that General Motors is doing better than Ford because General Motors backed off on the electric stuff a lot faster than Ford did.
- [191:28]
John C. Dvorak
Yes, of course.
- [191:30]
Adam Curry
You know, the only guys who can do electric is Tesla. They cornered the market.
- [191:34]
John C. Dvorak
Even BYD is falling apart now, I hear.
- [191:37]
Adam Curry
Well, I didn't hear that. They're pretty big.
- [191:39]
John C. Dvorak
Well, let's see. Because Germany, of course, very big on the, on the green energy. You know, they're so smart. They're those Germans. Do you think they learned anything? Let's listen.
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Margaret
Two huge cooling towers of the former nuclear power plant in Gundremin in Germany's Bavaria were destroyed in a controlled demolition at noon on Saturday. The plant had served as an important landmark in the town for nearly six decades, bringing numerous new jobs and boosting the town's economy.
- [192:10]
John C. Dvorak
Nat pumps.
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Margaret
However, the removal of the cooling towers comes as part of the country's nuclear phase out. Both nuclear reactors had already been closed for several years. Following Saturday's demolition, the dismantling of the plant will further continue with completion expected by 2040.
- [192:30]
John C. Dvorak
Ready to go, guys? Great idea. Yeah, let's.
- [192:34]
Adam Curry
That's the dumbest thing the Germans have ever done.
- [192:38]
John C. Dvorak
Oh, my word. It's just. It's crazy. It is just crazy. Have you heard about the inter bearing? No, this is. I filed under the under the ark category. America, Russia, China, the international Bering Strait tunnel and railroad.
- [192:58]
Adam Curry
Oh, yeah, no, I have heard about it. Yeah. We had somebody sending us a bunch of. This is not a new idea. This has been going around since they say even as far back as 1900.
- [193:08]
John C. Dvorak
But Trump is crazy. He could do something, something like this because the idea is that you connect the U.S. canada, of course, you know, Alaska, the Bering Strait, which is what, 60 miles or something. It's not even that far.
- [193:22]
Adam Curry
Yeah, it's not that it's doable.
- [193:24]
John C. Dvorak
You connect it to Russia, Siberia, then to China.
- [193:27]
Adam Curry
With a tunnel.
- [193:28]
John C. Dvorak
With a tunnel. And then you've got a beautiful, you know, then we circumvent everybody.
- [193:33]
Adam Curry
You have a train system that can run product from Japan and China.
- [193:39]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah.
- [193:40]
Adam Curry
And Russia. Right. Straight to the United States via the West Coast. It'd be fantastic without shipping because you got to go a long ways across it.
- [193:49]
John C. Dvorak
Zero shipping. Zero shipping. So this has been around for a long time?
- [193:54]
Adam Curry
Yeah, it's been around.
- [193:56]
John C. Dvorak
I love it.
- [193:57]
Adam Curry
You might be right about Trump being nuts about it and doing it, but I think it's going to take Greenland first.
- [194:02]
John C. Dvorak
Greenland doesn't seem to be important in this. This idea.
- [194:06]
Adam Curry
No, no, I know it's not. Got nothing to do with Green Lamp. I'm just saying it's on his list of things to do.
- [194:13]
John C. Dvorak
Big, big news in the Anglican Church.
- [194:18]
Adam Curry
Ah, church news.
- [194:19]
John C. Dvorak
Church news. I got church news. Well, for the first time in 500.
- [194:24]
Adam Curry
Years, nearly 900 years after 900, England split from Rome. A symbolic moment of unity as Pope.
- [194:33]
Margaret
Leo and King Charles III pray together for the very first time.
- [194:39]
Adam Curry
Teach us to see your hand in all your works and your likeness in all your children. Through Christ our Lord.
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Margaret
Beneath the Sistine Chapel's vaulted ceiling. The head of the Catholic Church and the head of the the Church of England shared a joint religious service, their choirs voices blending in harmony as they brought their two faiths together. It's a symbolic gesture that consolidates years of growing mutual respect between the Vatican and the British monarchy. During the service, UK Foreign Minister Yvette Cooper also read a Bible verse from a letter to the romans written by St. Paul and he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God. After the service, Charles and Camilla travel to rome's Basilica of St. Paul. Outside the walls, where Charles was given a special chair decorated with his coat of arms that will be kept there for the King and his heirs, the visitors. It comes as questions remain over the King's brother, Prince Andrew, and his links to convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. Buckingham palace hoping this historic moment will shift some of the focus away from events back home.
- [195:59]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah, so it was interesting. That's not at all what this is about, because there has been a massive split in the Anglican Church because they chose a female Bishop of King Canterbury. And of course, they're all in with the Rainbow Coalition and lgbtq.
- [196:19]
Adam Curry
Yeah. The church is gay.
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John C. Dvorak
The Anglican Church is super gay, and the Africans are having none of it. You cannot find a mainstream news report about this. So I got 40 seconds from a YouTuber. This is why the Anglican Church just split in two. Here's the story. Gafcon is a group of conservative Anglicans, mostly in Africa and Asia, who say that the global Anglican Communion has been drifting away from the Bible. On October 16, 2025, they made a bold move. They no longer recognize the Archbishop of Canterbury or the traditional councils that once united Anglicans. The trigger, the appointment of Sarah Mulally, the first female Archbishop of Canterbury. Gafcon says this goes against historic Anglican teaching and against Scripture. In response, they announced a new structure, the global Anglican community. Essentially, what they're saying is, we're not leaving. We are the true Anglican Communion. This isn't just a disagreement. It's a realignment, splitting Anglicanism into two branches. One that stays faithful to the Archbishop of Canterbury and the other that stays faithful to Scripture. And one is gay and the other one isn't. It's crazy. And what I love about this is that it combines church news with Africa news. It couldn't be any better. For the show.
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Adam Curry
You have to go to a YouTuber to get this.
- [197:33]
John C. Dvorak
Yes, there was is nothing Available on maintenance. Mainstream about this, I think historic split. Nothing.
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Adam Curry
It is pretty, pretty much of a big deal. But it surprises me that they don't cover, they don't cover anything. No, it's just borderline pathetic.
- [197:52]
John C. Dvorak
Yes. Yes.
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Adam Curry
So we have a couple more things I want to cover. You know this guy that's running for, he's the governor of, or senator. He's running for senator of Maine.
- [198:04]
John C. Dvorak
Oh yeah, this is like a Platner.
- [198:05]
Adam Curry
Guy who's got a, he has a SS tattoo on his chest.
- [198:10]
John C. Dvorak
This, this is the guy who was Bernie Sanders was worried about. And then it turns out he's, he's been writing stuff on, on Reddit. Is that the guy?
- [198:19]
Adam Curry
Well, I don't know if he's, I know he's got, he has a high profile online and he had a, he had a Nazi SS tattoo on his chest. Excellent skull and crossbones. The one that was on the, the long, that's on the SS hat.
- [198:34]
John C. Dvorak
What could possibly go wrong?
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Adam Curry
And so he had it tattooed over, but pictures of it exist. And he like trying to get away from this because he's running as a, obviously as a Democrat, but he's running as a left wing Democrat against the ex governor of Maine who is very popular, but they're going to try to get rid of her because they're trying to push the entire Democrat Party party into the progressive campaign. And so Scott Jennings actually got worked up about it on CNN and I thought the exchange was worth recording and they have copies of it here.
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Margaret
At this point, if he moves forward, Democrats aren't winning the seat.
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Adam Curry
I hate to break the news to you, but he's winning the primary by 30 points. Getting Nazi tattoo, Getting a Nazi tattoo made him more popular among Democrats. Democrats. You've got a guy running for attorney general in Virginia who wants to murder Republicans and he raised $500,000.
- [199:30]
John C. Dvorak
You got Nazi tattoo guy in Maine.
- [199:33]
Adam Curry
I sat out here for a year, two years listening to every Democrat at this table say Donald Trump's a Nazi, Elon's a Nazi. And your party is now in love.
- [199:41]
John C. Dvorak
With a guy with a Nazi tattoo.
- [199:43]
Adam Curry
Who trained a left wing paramilitary group and called himself an antifa super soldier on the Internet. And he going up every day, good luck getting nice.
- [199:54]
John C. Dvorak
But you say being yourself. That's right. Yeah, exactly right.
- [199:59]
Adam Curry
And he, he keeps, they keep arguing with him, saying, oh, he's not going to get. And his numbers keep going up. He's up. When I checked, he wasn't 30%, 30 points ahead. He was 34 points ahead. And he's getting a lot of traction because the. They may end up losing the Republican because, you know, the Democrats are primary. They're doing what the Republic conservative. Remember years ago when in the early part of our era, the no agenda era, there used to be these. They'd primary the Republican because they weren't conservative enough. And they kept trying to get these people out of office.
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John C. Dvorak
Yeah.
- [200:34]
Adam Curry
And so they bring out and they bring an extremist to run against them. And then the person would win, and then they'd lose against the Democrat.
- [200:43]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah.
- [200:43]
Adam Curry
And this is what's going on with the Democrats now. They've picked up the same idea. Here's part two. I am but a humble political analyst.
- [200:49]
John C. Dvorak
And I will just tell you that.
- [200:50]
Adam Curry
When you're winning a race by 3:30 points, if a pundit on television tells you, well, you need to think about dropping out, you laugh in their face.
- [200:56]
John C. Dvorak
I don't know. This is a year out.
- [200:58]
Adam Curry
I feel like I'm impressed. I want Democrats to be who they are. This is who they are. No, that is who they are.
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Margaret
You're saying the Democrats are Nazis.
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Adam Curry
I'm saying it's very. It's very on brand right now.
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John C. Dvorak
Hold on. He's doing it wrong. I don't know if he gets here, but he should say it doesn't surprise. Surprised me. But it's not just a Nazi. It's Jew haters. You got a Jew hater in New York, you got a Jew hater in Maine. That's the angle he should take, don't you think?
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Adam Curry
Yeah, I think. Yeah, you're right. You're right. It would be. Prove his. His.
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John C. Dvorak
Yes.
- [201:32]
Adam Curry
His shtick. Give us a call if he brought that in. Give us a call. We'll help you out, Scott, Really? Like, are you suggesting that, like, a.
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Margaret
Person who wears a Nazi tattoo because.
- [201:44]
Adam Curry
He was in the military or whatever.
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Margaret
Is representative of the entire Democratic Party?
- [201:47]
John C. Dvorak
Well, hold on. You said that about Hegseth.
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Adam Curry
I'm only reading the polling, Abby. When all this story broke and he started talking about it, he literally got more popular. He's beating the incumbent governor.
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Margaret
You realize that he's running in one.
- [202:01]
Adam Curry
State in Maine, and you're also saying.
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Margaret
That because of that, he's representative of the Democratic Party. He's. This is who they are. Who is they?
- [202:10]
Adam Curry
Look at the polling. Look at the energy.
- [202:12]
John C. Dvorak
This is not about the polling.
- [202:13]
Adam Curry
This is not about the. Bernie Sanders wants him. The beating heart of the Democratic Party, where their energy is. Wants the Nazi tattoo guy. That's what they want. I think that this country is about anything. It's about understanding that every person, me, you, everybody else has gone dark. Moments in our history and we go on.
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Margaret
Hold on. Bernie Sanders isn't the head of the Democratic Party.
- [202:37]
Adam Curry
I think he's not.
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John C. Dvorak
Absolutely not even.
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Margaret
Don't even. Where's your.
- [202:43]
Adam Curry
Where's the energy of the party?
- [202:44]
Margaret
Here is what I will tell you.
- [202:45]
Adam Curry
Schumer wants, Mills wants this guy and.
- [202:48]
John C. Dvorak
He'S winning by 30.
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Margaret
Let me tell you this. When polling happened, he is totally unknown.
- [202:53]
Adam Curry
Listen, I understand you don't want to.
- [202:55]
John C. Dvorak
Have this guy and I wouldn't either.
- [202:57]
Adam Curry
He is a totally unknown guy.
- [202:59]
John C. Dvorak
Comes out of nowhere.
- [203:00]
Adam Curry
He's got the full support of the left wing progressive Sanders wing of the Democratic Party. And like everybody is who supports Bernie Sanders. Yes. Look at the polling and here's the most important thing. He's beating the incumbent governor of the state by 30 points. This isn't happening in a vacuum. People are comparing an establishment figure like Mills and this insurance urgent left wing radical like Platner and they're like, you know what? We'll take the Nazi tattoos, it's fine. And I just, I think you look maybe early, but people are following this race and the polling is pretty clear. It's not that close.
- [203:39]
John C. Dvorak
I don't know what's happening, man. I mean we've got the church turning gay, We've got the Democrats turning in the Nazis. I mean.
- [203:46]
Adam Curry
Well, you have to remember that Maine has somehow. I know over the. Used to be this very conservative state.
- [203:53]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah.
- [203:53]
Adam Curry
But somehow especially around the city of Portland, it's become a kind of a libtard and I hate to use that word, lib job is better. Probably pretty bad it's area because the influx of, of people that couldn't afford staying in New York City and they're all, you know, the, the office workers of New York City couldn't afford it there and so they moved up to Portland because Portland is this great place and is pretty been there and, and I think a lot of California's Washington state people are comfortable up there. The weather's pretty much the same. It's just, it's. The state has been ruined by liberals.
- [204:33]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah.
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Adam Curry
Yeah.
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John C. Dvorak
There's a lot happening now with the get back to the office vibe that's happening. I was reading an article that all of these, all these people who came from I think mainly California, New York, York, etc. Moved to Arizona, moved to Austin and.
- [204:54]
Adam Curry
Austin is plagued by these people.
- [204:56]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah. But you know what's happening now. They all have to go back to the office. And at the time, they bought homes. Median price $450,000. You know what they get for it now? Because everyone wants to leave now? $220,000 for the same house.
- [205:14]
Adam Curry
I thought they had gone up to houses in Austin.
- [205:17]
John C. Dvorak
No. It's been falling like a rock.
- [205:21]
Adam Curry
Wow. You're the luckiest guy in the world.
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John C. Dvorak
I would say so. Yep. Yep. We were just talking about last night. I said, you know what? We're the luckiest guy and gal in the world. Thank you, darling. It's white wine. What is this?
- [205:37]
Adam Curry
No, you don't start drinking during this show.
- [205:40]
John C. Dvorak
The show is normally over. That's why she's coming in with my wine.
- [205:43]
Adam Curry
Hello. Hello.
- [205:44]
Margaret
Are you done?
- [205:45]
Adam Curry
Totally. Take it out. Take the wine out.
- [205:47]
John C. Dvorak
She says take the wine out. Take the wine out. No good. We should probably play one more clip and then go. Because we have.
- [205:56]
Adam Curry
Let's play. Let's play the conspiracy. I can have the conspiracies run down. This clip is floating around a lot. This is a. There's a bunch of people coming online and this is the talk clip on general strikes. They're promoting the idea that we're going to in this country because everyone's so fed up. Even though nobody. Everybody's fed up. Even in California. We're not that fed up. They're going to. They want a general strike. That'll fix everything. Do you realize this could all be over in two weeks? We could have Donald Trump and his entire administration out of office. And it's so simple. All we have to do is do a general strike and basically just take. Take vacation the same week and shut this whole system down. It's called a general vacation strike. There will be no workers. We'll all be in Margaritaville partying. It's a great idea. All the labor and everything will be shut down. There will be. The economy will go.
- [207:02]
John C. Dvorak
This is bull crap.
- [207:05]
Adam Curry
No one's ludicrous. This is like Blackout. Remember how successful that was?
- [207:10]
John C. Dvorak
Blackout. No kings. General strike. It's weak. You know what this is? You know what this is? This is Ohio.
- [207:25]
Adam Curry
Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fabulous. Waiting for the whole show to drop the Ohio bomb.
- [207:39]
John C. Dvorak
Yeah, there it is. And of course, we have some people to thank who support us. $50 and above John's tip of the day. A birthday tip of the day. On the way. We have some really good end of show mixes. The no Agenda music publishing group is going to be a super hit. We're going to start our livestream 24 hour a day no agenda show mixes is going to be fantastic. I'll have that up and running by Thursday as John thanks our 50 and above supporters for our 18th anniversary episode.
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Adam Curry
Yeah. Starting with James AG in Umatilla. Umatilla, Florida 189.55 also sir dude Chink in Bastrop, Texas.
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John C. Dvorak
Bastrop baby Bastrop.
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Adam Curry
Mickey Keck Mickey Keck in Lost Wages, NV 189.55 these are all happy well wishers telling telling us happy anniversary Nancy Chardavoin Chardevoine chardavoin in Centennial, Colorado 18955 Sir Quo what is this you think hold on, hold on.
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John C. Dvorak
I'm not.
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Adam Curry
I get as a joke Sequoia. It's spelled funny just as a pun. It's a pun. Santa Monica 181 81Amy Harmon Asheville, North Carolina 18180 David Fugazodo and Gladstone. There he is. There's our buddy and Saudi Arabia Peninsula 18067 yes. So the 180s all referred to 1818 years Sir John in London, London, UK 18333 he has a. He's getting knighted or something. So he's got a longer note that we read.
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John C. Dvorak
Yeah. I'll read this. Dear John Adam, please find and close my donation of 18033 towards the show's 18th anniversary. Keep it going as long as you're enjoying it. This donation also takes me over the 7k mark. So please could you give me the additional title of Earl Kumar of South London? No jingles, just karma. Please regard Sir John of South London, Viscount Kumar of South London, Commodore Kumar of the Seven Seas and now Earl Kumar of South London. That deserves an in donation segment. Karma.
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Senator Lindsey Graham
You've got karma. Wow.
- [210:10]
Adam Curry
Definitely got the right idea with the titles.
- [210:12]
John C. Dvorak
He sure does.
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Adam Curry
John foley, Chicago Heights 18033 Earl Hugger of Kitties in Zandam, Netherlands Holland. 18018 Hug more kitties he writes.
- [210:26]
John C. Dvorak
Yes.
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Adam Curry
Charles George in Evergreen, Colorado 18018 Some symbols there I can't see.
- [210:36]
John C. Dvorak
I don't know what that Dame rita.
- [210:37]
Adam Curry
In Sparks, Nevada are regular she came to 180 cheers to 18 years she says anonymous 180 Rianne Kozinski in Karsland, Alberta, Canada 15734 that might be enough to get does this pushes her to associate executive producers so we have to. You will get that yes to 1842 so we have to read her note when I realized your anniversary of my birthday landed on the same show day. I knew it was time to be deduced. Needs a de douching. You've been de douched. I had hit people in the mouth whenever I could, but I. It was time for me to finally send some treasure. You make my daily Whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops. You make my. I don't know why this. This cell is so big. I have to scroll over to it. You make my daily commute. Commute bearable. We're great for commuters. I can't have you finding your exit strategy just yet. I was hit in the mouth by my smoking hot husband Zach during COVID and last donation was to switcheroo. However, the 200 Canadian. Canadian whatever dollars wasn't recognized. And his producer. Oh, that's not good. And his note wasn't recognized or acknowledged. I hope my donation at 21842 plus fees Canadian will be honored as an associate executive. Yes, you will be. It's legal to drink in Alberta at 18. Did you know that? I'm turning 42, so I should finally be able to know the answer to everything, right? 42. It's a good callback.
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John C. Dvorak
Yes.
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Adam Curry
Please add me to the birthday list for jingles. I'd like a special edit if you can. No, we don't do that. Of Bush's. Just send your cash only followed by due to climate change little girl. Yay. And it's free. You can give them.
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John C. Dvorak
No, what we will do is we will give you the f. Karma cancer in honor of your dear friend battling her second bout of that terrible disease. Of course.
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Senator Lindsey Graham
You'Ve got karma.
- [212:36]
John C. Dvorak
The problem with the Canadians us honoring the Canadian and Australian dollar is that it's so low on the list now that we don't even think about it being enough for association.
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Adam Curry
That's why I got bumped.
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John C. Dvorak
Yeah, that's. But you. Well, we got you, Rhiann. We got you.
- [212:53]
Adam Curry
Yeah, and it was good. You put it in the notes to remind us. Anonymous in Columbus, Ohio. 131 A66 Gerald Small in Gilbert, Arizona. 1-2-345-donation. We don't see enough of Richard Lindquist. 10641. And there he is. Oh, that's not him.
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John C. Dvorak
No, that's.
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Adam Curry
This is Kate. What happened to Kevin? Where's Kevin?
- [213:19]
John C. Dvorak
He's gone.
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Adam Curry
Oh, no. He's down at the bottom. He's down lower. There's Kate McLaughlin. Man, she's not in. In. In the Carolina. She's in Boise, Idaho. 100.
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John C. Dvorak
And she says, quit complaining.
- [213:29]
Adam Curry
Complaining, John. I can't hear through the news. I can hear through the newsletter. She says, yeah. And then she gives me loves and kisses. Thank you so much for your show.
- [213:40]
John C. Dvorak
And don't ever stop. I will cry.
- [213:43]
Adam Curry
Yeah, we won't.
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John C. Dvorak
Yeah, we will.
- [213:46]
Adam Curry
Well, yeah, obviously, we're already in Gunsmoke territory.
- [213:52]
John C. Dvorak
That's right.
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Adam Curry
Van E. Newman in Bernatello.
- [213:56]
John C. Dvorak
You forgot James Moran in Jackson.
- [213:58]
Adam Curry
James Morin in Jackson, California. Jackson, which is a nice little town, by the way, in California. Move there. Van E. Newman in Bernalito, Mexico. Bernalillo.
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John C. Dvorak
You're falling apart, old man.
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Adam Curry
Yeah. Adam Hurst. He's in heathcote. Yeah. Australia. 100. Toby in New Orleans.
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John C. Dvorak
And he has a happy. He said he has a birthday for his hello birthday.
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Adam Curry
Yeah. Toby's 100 bucks. He's in New Orleans. John Bolter in Trabuco Canyon, California. 80. 86. Daviti in Cumming, Georgia. 808. And there's Kevin McLaughlin, Concord, North Carolina. He's the Archduke of Luna. Lover. America. Love her boobs. And lover, everything in between. Please save the sweater puppies. Catherine morton in Charlotte, North Carolina. 7903. That's a birthday. William S. Merrill in Calabasas, California. 75. And it says here this donation makes me in his blank.
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John C. Dvorak
Well, congratulations. You are.
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Adam Curry
Yeah, you're a me.
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John C. Dvorak
Sir.
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Adam Curry
Commodore J. Stroke in Norton, Ohio. 7080.
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John C. Dvorak
Oh, he wants to credit the donations to Chupacabra Canoe at llc.
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Adam Curry
Okay. Chupa. Chupacabra Canoe. You get that? You get this donation. Joel cox in Indianola, Pennsylvania. Wow. 7061. 67. He says. Baronet Michael Robinson in Salem, Oregon. 6718. He talks about lucid dreaming. Here's the one. He's the guy who says tablespoon or two of raw potatoes, potato starch or flour. Has to be raw.
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John C. Dvorak
Yum, yum.
- [215:46]
Adam Curry
I don't know about the flour. It's not good raw.
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Margaret
No.
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Adam Curry
Anyway, he says it gives you lucid dreams. Give it a shot, unless he's putting us on. Meanwhile, we got Franklin Monterosa in Dodge City, Kansas. 67. And Sean Wright in Farmington, Connecticut. 67. Frederick of Vorderhoe.
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John C. Dvorak
Hockey. Frederick Forder Hacker.
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Adam Curry
In Amsterdam. 5961. Sir Becoming Heroic in Sherville, Indiana. 5940, 33 cents an episode. Servisa or cerveza? It'd be cerveza. It's a joke. In Dallas, Texas. 56. 83. 3. He's looking for some jobs. Karma we'll give you some jobs. Karma at the end. Adam will remember to do that. Sir Glenn. 5510. Sir Mark Megpio, 5510. Surprise night of astonishment in Yukon, Oklahoma. 5444. We're getting there. Rick LeBlanca, 5432. Paolo Moore in Fort Washington, Maryland. Fitness 54. Not scared of pagans. Ah. I talked about the. Okay, Sir Chris of Sachse Sachse, Texas. Is that right? 5333. Scott Kowalski in Lynchburg, Virginia. 52.99.
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John C. Dvorak
He's been married for 29 years and they never had a fight, he and Amy.
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Adam Curry
Garbage man Dave in Lombard, Illinois.
- [217:27]
John C. Dvorak
Hey, Dave.
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Adam Curry
5272. Patrick Ekstrom in Brick Township, New Jersey. 5272. Paul Rug in Fort Thomas, Kentucky. 5272. Nicholas St. Amour in Rowden, Quebec. 5272. Hence the French name. Robert Cox in Delphi, Indiana. 5100. Foster Birch, New York City. 5115. Gina playing Gina in B.C. somewhere in B.C. canada. I got a birthday call out. She came in with 51.
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John C. Dvorak
Our hubby Eddie. Yes.
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Adam Curry
Kate Hubbard.
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John C. Dvorak
Kelly.
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Adam Curry
Kate Hubbard.
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John C. Dvorak
Kelly Hubbard.
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Adam Curry
Kelly Hubbard in Plymouth, Minnesota. 50 18. Carl Vogler in Dylan Beach, California. 50 18. And now we get to our 50s. And curiously, with this like this, we have very. We don't have that many, no. But I'm going to give name and location, starting with Brett. Brett. Brett. Brett Denton in Boise. Melissa Alvarez in Ponte Verde Beach, Florida. George Wushett in La Verne. Sir George Lavernia, Texas. Kennel Patelia in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. Upbeats Music podcast in Capra's Cove.
- [218:56]
John C. Dvorak
Salty Crayon.
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Adam Curry
Michael Golub in Glen Burnie, Maryland. And last on the list is Arthur Sitgara. Sitgara in Monroe, Georgia.
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John C. Dvorak
Yes.
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Adam Curry
$50. These people all helped and made the show 1811 and the 18th anniversary show arousing success.
- [219:21]
John C. Dvorak
I would like to make an offer to you. What would you like me to do? The 50s and above from now on.
- [219:29]
Adam Curry
Oh, really? Okay.
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John C. Dvorak
I mean, just so people. I mean, it's just. I mean, if I had some kind of issue, you'd probably offer the same to me.
- [219:39]
Adam Curry
I made two mistakes.
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John C. Dvorak
Okay.
- [219:42]
Adam Curry
But I want you to read them from now on. This would be great.
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John C. Dvorak
I say it only out of love. I mean, it's actually pretty good for the show when you read them because, you know, people love hearing it.
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Adam Curry
Yeah. Okay. I want you to read them.
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John C. Dvorak
No, but I'm being sincere.
- [219:57]
Adam Curry
No, I Think it'd be great to listen to you read them. You might be faster.
- [220:02]
John C. Dvorak
Well, it doesn't matter.
- [220:04]
Adam Curry
Or not.
- [220:04]
John C. Dvorak
At the end of the show. Hey, jobs.
- [220:06]
Adam Curry
Karma Jobs. Jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.
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John C. Dvorak
I remembered that bit. All right, everybody, thank you. Thank you so much for supporting us on our 18th anniversary. Go to no agendadonations.com because on Thursday we'll be 18 years and one episode and we do not have a plan on stopping until the value dries up. It's very simple. Value for value. It works both ways. We give you the show, if you think it's valuable, you send some value back. And it's been going well so far, so we will try and do 21. Some people want four more years. We'll see how that works out. Just remember us@nonoagendadonations.com you can set up a recurring donation, any amount, any frequency. It's all up to you. Noagendadonations.com yeah, we got a list. David Troonin turns 38 today. Actually, Dame Slavian, Sir. Dude, Chink. Do the chink wish. Black dame, local from hot Texas, hot glass. A very happy one. Is her birthday today as way as well. Well, Gina B, her smoking hot hubby Eddie celebrates tomorrow. Dame Zelda of Silicon Valley will have her birthday on the 28th. Adam Hirsch, happy birthday to his old dear D E A r. On the 31st, Sir Burns his wife, Sir Burns his keeper celebrates on the 6th. Rhianne Kosinski turns 42 and Catherine Morton wish her smoking hot husband, Jeff Morton a very happy birthday. He turns 50, 50 years old. And we say happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. Wow, he really did his accounting.7k in total to the show. So a well deserved title upgrade for Sir John of South London. He now becomes Earl Kumar of South London. And we congratulate him with that, of course. And then no more. No more pesky jingles for the Secretary's General. Instead, ladies and gentlemen, we are proud to present some peace prizes. Not just any prize, but the no Agenda International Peace Prize as sent to the President of the United States, the Vice President of the United States and the speaker of the House, Brandon Mango. No, I'm sorry. Yes, Brandon Mango, Bowman, McMahon and Sir Ear Hopper, all of you deserve the no Agenda Peace prize. Go to noagendarings.com so that we can make sure we send it to the right address and welcome you principles of peace we appreciate.
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Adam Curry
Make a correction.
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John C. Dvorak
What did I do wrong?
- [222:47]
Adam Curry
Well, you. It's not the speaker of the House. He didn't do anything. Well, okay, it was going to be Rich Witkoff.
- [222:54]
John C. Dvorak
Oh, but Witkoff and Bush.
- [222:56]
Adam Curry
But the other thing is, we may be playing that jingle again because not everybody has checked in.
- [223:02]
John C. Dvorak
Oh, oh, oh.
- [223:04]
Adam Curry
You know the laggards. We have laggards.
- [223:06]
John C. Dvorak
Laggards. Yeah. They're like, yeah, I'm gonna give those guys some cash.
- [223:09]
Adam Curry
I don't care. I'm just. And then like six months later we end up with. Here's our. Why don't I get my document?
- [223:19]
John C. Dvorak
Get your blade out, ma'.
- [223:20]
Adam Curry
Am.
- [223:20]
John C. Dvorak
Careful. No, don't count yourself on that one. There you go. We have join us today. Coincidentally, they're very similar to the Peace Prize winners. Brandon Mango, David Coonan and Matthew Burns jump up on the podium here. Gentlemen, I'm very proud to pronounce the KD as Sir Mango, the Knight of the Sweet Tooth, Sir David of Vest Brabant and Sir Burns of the good future. For you gentlemen, we have hookers and blow Rent boys and chardonnay. We've got hot coffee in his throat waffle along with that here at the round Table, beer and blunts, Rubin Esque women and Rose Gates and the sake, vodka and vanilla bongits and bourbon, sparkling cider and escorts, Ginger ale and gerbils, breast milk and padmen. As always at the round Table, the mutton and the mead. Enjoy. Everybody head over ToNoEnda rings.com. that's where you can see your handsome night ring, which will be yours once you send us the address to send it off to you. And with that, of course, we include some wax. With that, you can seal your important correspondence. And as always, everything comes with a certificate of authenticity because it's real. You are a real knight of the no Agenda Roundtable. Congratulations. Always a party at these no Agenda meetups and they are happening around the world. As you are here in a moment after we give you two reports. The first from 14 Wayne, which I think was this. Was. Was this a. On the smaller side, Adam and John Shannon reporting in from Fort Wayne. And we had a small meetup. We had a few that took advantage.
- [224:54]
Adam Curry
Of the weather and weren't here and.
- [224:56]
John C. Dvorak
Another one that wasn't here was Pam.
- [224:58]
Adam Curry
Bondi, Adam Clark Curry, John C. Dvorak.
- [225:03]
John C. Dvorak
And she talks in syllables. We love you, Pam. And we're going to get the Epstein.
- [225:07]
Adam Curry
List by Chris Christmas. Hey, guys, this is Jason.
- [225:10]
John C. Dvorak
New guy in the room, but definitely having a good time. In the morning. In the morning. See you next time.
- [225:16]
Adam Curry
Adios and bon Voyage.
- [225:18]
John C. Dvorak
Hey, what do you. What do you call two dudes in a bar in Fort Wayne? A meetup. That's right, more people in Los Altos. But still. Here's your meetup report in the morning here in downtown Los Altos giving you a report for the meetup. This is Sir Reeschmeister. This is Commodore Dudne Bennett. Ben Duke of San Francisco having a wonderful time meeting new people and connection is protection.
- [225:43]
Adam Curry
Sir Julian here in Los Altos. We're all at the edge of our.
- [225:46]
John C. Dvorak
Seats waiting for John's book review of Minotaur Milking Farm.
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Adam Curry
Sir Montauk learning all about Glycine. Hello, this is Abraham. I'm recently divorced and I need a classy broad in my life. This is an anonymous lady in San Francisco in the morning. This is Sir Tim Death. Resist we much. This is Sir Rick alsatrin, Crazy Steve II.
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John C. Dvorak
I just want to wish you two dudes a happy 18th anniversary. And please free Candice Owens. Thank you very much. Remember to include your servers in these reports, people. That's a way of hitting people in the mouth. We have a couple meetups taking place. One today actually underway. It is the TMI Three Mile island evac zone. It started at 3:33 Eastern Time at Evergreen Brewing in Camp Hill, Penn, Pennsylvania. Tomorrow Berlin gets together the Berlin ITM slaves. 7:33pm at Volksbar at Rosa Luxembourg Platz in Berlin, Germany. I'm looking forward to a report from you. And the final one for the month will be on the 30th. That is the North Georgia now quarterly meetup. Six o' clock, Cherry Street Brewing in Alpharetta, Georgia coming up. Oh actually the 31st. Light in the side hole on the Netherlands on the 31st. Then we have have Durango, Colorado on the 2nd, Indianapolis on the 2nd, Raleigh, North Carolina on the 6th. Fort Wayne, Indiana on the 15th. Albany, California. John will be there on the 15th of November. Zurich, Switzerland. Need your meetup report. 15th of November, Burlington, Kentucky on the 22nd. And many more to be found@noagendameetups.com this is something you must witness at least once again.
- [227:21]
Adam Curry
What's the one in November that I'm going to be at?
- [227:24]
John C. Dvorak
November 15th, Albany, California. It's right next door. You're right there. Pop out of the house, go say hi. I'm sure it will be at that pizza place. No doubt about it. Go to no Agenda meetup at the.
- [227:34]
Adam Curry
Mallard Club as usual.
- [227:36]
John C. Dvorak
I guess so. Noagendameetups.com these are the people that will give you the connection, it gives you pure protection. The first responders. In any emergency, you will never regret going to your first no Agenda meetup. Go to noenginemeetups.com to find out where all of them are. If you can't find one near you, start with one yourself. It's easy and guaranteed, a party feels the same.
- [228:11]
Adam Curry
It's like a party.
- [228:13]
John C. Dvorak
Always like a party. And we've got our end of show mixes, which are not all AI but man, they are getting good. One minute 30 max, please. If you're going to send it in. And of course, you will be on our new radio station. We need to have a name for this station. What do you call it? No Agenda. What? For our end of show mix radio station.
- [228:36]
Adam Curry
No, let's dream up a title right now.
- [228:38]
John C. Dvorak
That's why I'm throwing it out there.
- [228:41]
Adam Curry
No A.
- [228:44]
John C. Dvorak
Oh, wow. Wow. That's coming up.
- [228:47]
Adam Curry
If you're just going to condemn every suggestion, it's not going to get any suggestions out.
- [228:51]
John C. Dvorak
That's right. There's never a wrong suggestion in brainstorming.
- [228:59]
Adam Curry
How about neo? How about NEO Radio?
- [229:03]
John C. Dvorak
NEO Radio.
- [229:06]
Adam Curry
I think. I wonder if that's available. That's actually a good URL.
- [229:09]
John C. Dvorak
No Agenda reels. Finally, the troll room is waking up. There we go.
- [229:13]
Adam Curry
No Agenda reels. Yeah, but the problem is that it indicates video.
- [229:17]
John C. Dvorak
It does, yeah. It's no good. We'll. We'll work on it. We'll find something. We'll find something.
- [229:22]
Adam Curry
Off the wall.
- [229:23]
John C. Dvorak
ISO time before we leave you. Of course, we have John's tip of the day, so don't go anywhere. I have three today and you seem to have two, so.
- [229:32]
Adam Curry
Yeah, go with your three.
- [229:33]
John C. Dvorak
Wow, thanks a lot, guys. Okay, that's one.
- [229:36]
Adam Curry
That's out. You know what? 100%. Well, please. Forever white supremacy.
- [229:42]
John C. Dvorak
Right? That's my last one. Forever. Forever. Forever. Kind of like that. That's maduro, by the way.
- [229:51]
Adam Curry
Oh, was it?
- [229:52]
John C. Dvorak
Yes. Forever. Forever. Forever.
- [229:55]
Adam Curry
Okay, I got a couple here. Yeah, I'm trying to think which one to play first. Let's do Walter Cronkite.
- [230:04]
John C. Dvorak
How do they do it? Nobody knows.
- [230:09]
Adam Curry
Okay, Kennedy, that was a humdinger.
- [230:13]
John C. Dvorak
A show, okay? There's. There's just nothing. You can't compete with Kennedy. AI Kennedy, I'm sure. Hey, everybody, it's time again for John. Tip of the day.
- [230:22]
Adam Curry
Great advice for you and me.
- [230:25]
John C. Dvorak
Just the tip with JCD and sometimes Adam.
- [230:32]
Adam Curry
All right, so we're back through the rotation. Back to cleaning products. Oh, but this is not a cleaning liquid or detergent. Or anything. This is a. A. A multi purpose portable carpet and upholstery cleaner for car, auto detailer, blah, blah, blah. It's good for everything, especially if you have dogs.
- [230:56]
John C. Dvorak
I have a dog. I need this product. I have.
- [230:59]
Adam Curry
You do need this product. This very dirty car. This is another Bissell product. This is a specifically called. You have to look this up. They haven't. Mimi claims she got one at Costco for 70 bucks.
- [231:10]
John C. Dvorak
Whoa.
- [231:11]
Adam Curry
They're 90 bucks or more. 99 bucks at Amazon.
- [231:15]
John C. Dvorak
It's not a cheap product. What is it called?
- [231:17]
Adam Curry
It's called the little Green multipurpose portable carpet and upholstery cleaner. It's a small device. It's the little green with a lot of suction. And. And she swears by it, claims she uses it every day.
- [231:34]
John C. Dvorak
The Little Green carpet cleaner by Bissell. I'm looking at it now.
- [231:39]
Adam Curry
Wow. Pronounced Bissell.
- [231:40]
John C. Dvorak
But okay, okay. Well, look, just because I said I would read this. The donation.
- [231:44]
Adam Curry
No, you're reading the scripture.
- [231:45]
John C. Dvorak
You're getting all pissy at me about it. I was trying to be nice. The little Bissell. Is it Bissell?
- [231:54]
Adam Curry
Yeah, Bissell.
- [231:55]
John C. Dvorak
Bissell.
- [231:56]
Adam Curry
Huh.
- [231:58]
John C. Dvorak
So it really sucks.
- [232:00]
Adam Curry
It sucks.
- [232:02]
John C. Dvorak
And it has. They have actually, they have little green oxy liquid that you put in it.
- [232:07]
Adam Curry
Yes. There's a special liquid. It takes off everything. It's great for upholstery. Yeah, it's a winner.
- [232:13]
John C. Dvorak
Hmm. Interesting. And of course, Mimi would know because she's got the dogs, right?
- [232:20]
Adam Curry
She's got tons of dogs.
- [232:21]
John C. Dvorak
There it is, everybody. Find all the. All of the tips@tipoftheday.net.
- [232:33]
Adam Curry
And sometimes Adam. Created by Dana Brunetti.
- [232:36]
John C. Dvorak
That's right. Created by Dana Brunetti. So you know, it's quality. It's a quality product.
- [232:41]
Adam Curry
Right here, everybody.
- [232:42]
John C. Dvorak
Quality stuff. That's it for our 18th anniversary show. Thank you all for being here. We appreciate you, every single one of you. Let's see, coming up next. Oh, how about that? We have the podcasting 2.0 show. I did that one just the other day. It's titled fuzzing, if you want to know what's going on. I didn't even promote.
- [233:05]
Adam Curry
Titled what?
- [233:06]
John C. Dvorak
Fuzzing. Fuzzing.
- [233:08]
Adam Curry
What's fuzzing? Is that like Ohio? No, fuzzing is another term I'm unaware of.
- [233:13]
John C. Dvorak
It's a technical, technical term. Developers use this. Fuzzing. Fuzzing.
- [233:19]
Adam Curry
Explain before we go it.
- [233:21]
John C. Dvorak
No, we don't have enough time.
- [233:23]
Adam Curry
Oh, brother.
- [233:25]
John C. Dvorak
Listen, just hang around and listen to it on the no agenda stream of your Modern podcast app End of show mixes Nico sign. We got Sir Michael Anthony with a non AI mix, Mark Van Patten and Bree or Bry, I guess. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas hill country for the 18th year. Going into 19 in the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
- [233:46]
Adam Curry
And from northern Silicon Valley, I'm John Cedar Borak.
- [233:49]
John C. Dvorak
We return on Thursday for our 18th year plus one. Please join us and remember us@noagendadonations.com until then, adios mofos. A hooey, hooey and such.
- [234:05]
Adam Curry
Well, I asked my nephew hey, what time you got?
- [234:11]
John C. Dvorak
He pulled out his phone said it's.
- [234:13]
Adam Curry
A lie I pointed at the wall said read that son he stared like.
- [234:22]
John C. Dvorak
That clock had a loaded gun.
- [234:26]
Adam Curry
Tick tock, what a shock Kids these days can't read a clock right face, two hands they don't know why Just ask.
- [234:34]
John C. Dvorak
Siri and let time fly.
- [234:40]
Adam Curry
Back in.
- [234:40]
John C. Dvorak
My day we learned it fine quarter past eight, 33 past nine and now.
- [234:49]
Adam Curry
They'Re squinting at the numbers Start to.
- [234:52]
John C. Dvorak
Sweat they don't know where and it's time for bed.
- [235:00]
Adam Curry
Tick tock, what a shock Kids these days can't read a.
- [235:04]
John C. Dvorak
Clock give them 12 and 6 they'll.
- [235:06]
Adam Curry
Still get lost 12 o' clock they feel double cross.
- [235:19]
John C. Dvorak
What the you mean? Oh my Goodness Baby, I'm £250 solid baby. You want to see a human?
- [236:00]
Adam Curry
What are you now letting me see?
- [236:09]
John C. Dvorak
I want to go, I'll go down.
- [236:13]
Adam Curry
Go rhythm I go rhythm I go.
- [236:21]
John C. Dvorak
There you go.
- [236:28]
Adam Curry
I will go river.
- [236:34]
John C. Dvorak
I will go river.
- [236:38]
Adam Curry
Love.
- [236:49]
John C. Dvorak
There is only one podcast I like to hear. It's hosted by our Adam and our John C. Deer.
- [236:58]
Adam Curry
They masticate and separate the show us.
- [237:04]
John C. Dvorak
All the ghoulish things that live within they show the monsters they're worse than.
- [237:17]
Adam Curry
The politicians Psychopathic news anchors action aimed at mainstreams worse.
- [237:33]
John C. Dvorak
The funny and the serious intersect as.
- [237:38]
Adam Curry
They warn us about the industrial complex.
- [237:44]
John C. Dvorak
They show the monsters they're worse than.
- [237:50]
Adam Curry
The politicians Psychopathic news anchors.
- [238:07]
Margaret
And the.
- [238:07]
Adam Curry
Social media gets you if you don't watch it.
- [238:22]
John C. Dvorak
The best podcast in the universe mofo dvorak.org/n a that was a humdinger of a show.