1812 - "Champagne Socialist"

Summary

No Agenda Show – Episode 1812 "Champagne Socialist"
Date: October 30, 2025
Hosts: Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak deconstruct recent media narratives, delve into political and cultural developments in the US and Europe, dissect the latest AI industry mania, and offer vintage No Agenda analysis on everything from podcasting trends to international relations. The episode is rich with media clips, dry wit, and the hosts’ signature mix of skepticism and deep dives.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Baseball, Curses, and Podcasting Without Guests

[00:13–03:10]

• The show opens with commentary about Canadians beating Americans in baseball, referencing the "Curse of the Colonel," a Japanese baseball superstition.
• Adam and John highlight their decision to never have podcast guests, citing the saturation of guest-based podcasts, even noting Joe Rogan's recent booking of Miranda Lambert as an odd choice.
  • Quote [02:58]:
    “The best decision we ever made when we came up with this show idea was to never have guests.” — Adam Curry

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2. Media & Political Deconstruction: Tucker Carlson, Nick Fuentes, and Israel

[04:01–08:20]

• Adam and John discuss Tucker Carlson and Nick Fuentes’ podcast appearance, emphasizing skepticism about their stance on Israel’s influence in US politics.

• They play clips illustrating how both hosts focus criticism on Israel but seldom mention Americans serving in other foreign militaries, such as Ukraine.

  • Key Insight [08:20]:
    The critique that political bias leads to selective outrage when it comes to dual citizenship and military service.

• John highlights the concept of ‘extremely online’ kids as a factor in nihilistic violence, discussing its overuse and misinterpretation as a term.

  • Quote [11:01]: “These kids are extremely online.” — Adam Curry
  • Quote [11:20]: “It’s an interesting term… almost a non sequitur.” — Adam Curry

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3. Europe in Flux: Dutch Election, German Asylum, & “Champagne Socialist”

[12:38–22:47]

• The Dutch election’s outcome (featuring Rob Jetten, a “woke openly gay champagne socialist”) is analyzed for its signal on declining fortunes for far-right populists.

  • Quote [15:26]: “Rob Jetten, a woke openly gay champagne socialist, will most likely become the country’s Prime Minister.” — John C. Dvorak

• They riff on how European politicians anglicize names for branding and touch on female right-wing influencers like Naomi Seibt, who is seeking asylum in the US for her AfD support.

  • Naomi Seibt compares herself to the “anti-Greta Thunberg,” highlighting media persecution in Germany and increased state surveillance.
  • Clip [16:07–19:16]: Naomi Seibt details state harassment and death threats for speaking out.

• Adam and John critique the American-centric lens of the mainstream press and joke about media objectification and influencer politics.

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4. International Affairs: US-Asia Deals, Symbolism, and Media Spin

[24:10–31:41]

• Trump’s Asia tour, including a trade deal with South Korea, is dissected—especially symbolic gestures like the “crown” gifted to Trump in Korea, alleged by Korean commentator Chanel Rion to be a funereal insult.

  • Quote [27:00]: “That crown... is the crown you put in graves.” — Adam Curry (summarizing Chanel Rion)

• The show deconstructs official narratives in state visits, touching on the optics of US, China, and Russia relations.

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5. AI Mania, Energy, and Social Ramifications

[77:17–94:58, 100:01–106:12]

• Adam and John analyze the ballooning investments in AI—server farms, energy use, environmental tradeoffs, and economic realities.

  • Quote [95:32]: “[OpenAI] is always the beginning of the end… then we do advertising.”
  • Quote [87:01]: “5,000 acres is about 7.8 square miles.” — John C. Dvorak, debunking Manhattan-sized AI server farm hype.

• Legislation aimed at controlling chatbots and digital IDs is discussed, with John pointing out that “digital ID is the logical nexus” for such privacy and regulatory measures.

• They poke fun at the AI hype cycle, referencing “peak tech” and the absurdities of humanoid home robots operated by remote humans.

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6. US Politics Media Spin, Food Stamps, and Shutdown Drama

[49:04–76:45, 119:04–121:16]

• Obama’s forum remarks calling for government regulation of social media are criticized for First Amendment overreach.

• Mainstream comparisons of Trump to Hitler are played and lampooned. Adam presents the “Trump rotation” (“liar, incompetent, white supremacist, etc.”) as a predictable media trope.

• The food stamp/SNAP benefits debate is dissected, with a pointed rant blaming political gamesmanship for harms inflicted on working Americans and children.

  • Quote [119:04]: “You are sacrificing your own people... because you want to win an election and you want to win power. And you will do anything to make people look bad because that's the only way you can win. I am sick of it.” — Michigan AG Rant (paraphrased and quoted)

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7. Technology, Employment, and Decentralization

[96:18–100:36]

• Amazon, Microsoft, and other tech companies are laying off tens of thousands as “AI efficiencies” supposedly reduce management layers.
• The hosts discuss tech outages and the vulnerability of centralized systems, predicting a move towards decentralization.

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8. Around the Globe: Favelas, Crime Raids, and Social Engineering

[72:15–76:14]

• The largest ever Brazil police operation is covered, highlighting the ongoing struggle between state and drug gangs in Rio’s favelas.
  • Quote [74:19]: “My cousin was decapitated by special force troops... They just tore off his head and left him hanging in the woods.” — Favela resident (clip warning for graphic content)

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9. US Health & Economy: Insurance, Medical Costs, and Snap!

[127:42–130:23]

• The unaffordability of US health insurance is discussed, with endorsements of crowd-funded health plans as a disruptive alternative.
  • Quote [128:25]: “You start thinking about $20,000 a year… the number one problem in America is stealing thousands of dollars from working Americans.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “We go out, we hit people in the mouth.” — John C. Dvorak [153:28]
• “The show is too long.” — Listener voice/isophone [193:25], a recurring self-deprecating theme
• “Americans and Russians are very, very similar. Even when it was the USSR, very similar, nationalistic.” — Kirill Dmitriev [37:17]
• “Manhattan server farms the size of Manhattan—bullcrap!” — Adam Curry [85:55]
• “These kids are extremely online.” — Adam Curry [11:01]

Timestamps for Key Segments

• [00:13] – Baseball and "Curse of the Colonel" banter
• [04:01] – Tucker Carlson and Nick Fuentes podcast analysis
• [07:53] – Citizenship, foreign militaries, Israel bias discussed
• [12:38] – Dutch election; European political analysis
• [15:26] – “Champagne Socialist” moniker for new Dutch PM
• [16:07] – Naomi Seibt’s US asylum plea—European media crackdown
• [24:10] – Trump’s Asia trip, Korea crown symbolism
• [38:18] – Russian perspectives on traditional values and US similarity
• [49:04] – Obama on media regulation and First Amendment tension
• [52:02] – Media’s endless “Trump is Hitler” comparisons
• [77:17] – AI, server farms, climate impact, and economic bubble discussion
• [96:18] – Amazon layoffs and the cult of AI “efficiency”
• [100:01] – Centralization, tech infrastructure failures, need for decentralization
• [119:04] – Michigan AG’s food stamp rant
• [127:42] – US health insurance costs and crowd-health alternatives

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Tone & Style

The episode blends sharp, skeptical media analysis with humor, frequent asides, and lively banter. The hosts use a mixture of sarcasm and earnest critique, frequently punctuated by sound clips and jabs at legacy media and political hypocrisy.

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Additional Highlights

• AI and Digital ID as intertwined threats, with John Dvorak predicting legislative overreach.
• The rise of “extremely online” as a cultural diagnosis for current youth malaise and alienation.
• The “Trump rotation” of media narratives—repetitive demonization of political figures.
• International comparisons; deep dives into European right and left movements; American-centric media blind spots called out.
• Behind-the-scenes podcasting professionalism: hosts deride guest-driven shows and vouch for the purity and longevity of the No Agenda model.
• End-of-show “Tip of the Day”: WAGO lever nut connectors for easy home wiring.

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For Listeners Who Haven’t Heard the Episode

This summary covers the breadth of episode 1812, which showcases No Agenda’s trademark media deconstruction, biting satire, and political skepticism. From baseball oddities and European elections to AI mania and food stamp policy, Adam and John blend media analysis, world affairs, and cultural critique, all with recurring inside jokes and community engagement.

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Useful Links

• No Agenda Show
• No Agenda Stream (for live shows and chat)
• Artist, Producer, and Donation Info
• Tip of the Day Resource
• No Agenda Meetups

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End of summary for Episode 1812 – “Champagne Socialist”.

Transcript

[Adam Curry]

I make phones. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's Thursday, October 30, 2025. This is your award winning Gibbonation Media Assassination Episode 1812.

[Adam Curry]

This is no Agenda.

[John C. Dvorak]

Canadians are beating us in baseball and we're broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill country here in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody.

[Adam Curry]

I'm Adam Curry, and from northern Silicon Valley, where I have nothing clever to say, especially about baseball, I'm John C. Dvorak.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's Crackpot and Buzz. And here I am thinking you'd be impressed by my sports ball knowledge.

[Adam Curry]

I am.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, thank you.

[Adam Curry]

And tell us what. Okay, tell us what's happening.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I'll tell you exactly what's happening. We are so distraught over Canadians beating us at baseball that we are bringing out the Curse of the Colonel.

[Adam Curry]

World Series resume tonight in la.

[John C. Dvorak]

We have to see if Colonel Sanders is there again.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

A lookalike of Colonel was spotted behind home plate Saturday. One theory is it's a reference to the of the Colonel, a Japanese belief that the ghost of Colonel Sanders cursed a Japanese baseball team after someone threw a statue of him from a local KFC into a river. Now the Dodgers have three players from Japan.

[John C. Dvorak]

The Curse of the Colonel. Surely you've heard of that. Yeah. So I knew you'd be impressed. I knew it.

[Adam Curry]

I knew it was a good clip to pull.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Curry]

There's no. The Dodgers have gone. They've. They've just gone flat. Mookie bets. Is the. Is the key to this.

[John C. Dvorak]

This Mookie Bets. Mookie? Who's Mookie?

[Adam Curry]

Mookie can't hit the ball.

[John C. Dvorak]

Mookie. What's wrong with Mookie? So is it three two right now? Is that the standing three, two, three?

[Adam Curry]

Yes. And four. Whoever wins the fourth game wins the World Series. So the Dodgers can come back, but they're going back to Toronto. The likelihood, watching them try to bat. Except for Ohtani, who is just, you know, he's hanging in there. I remember the team can't hit.

[John C. Dvorak]

I remember when the Japanese. Didn't the Japanese win once? Didn't they win the World Series once? I'm pretty sure they did.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

Wow.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm pretty sure. There you go.

[Adam Curry]

You were doing so well. You were hanging in there.

[John C. Dvorak]

Actually, I'm sure the Japanese won at one time. I remember.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah, they've had their shot at it.

[John C. Dvorak]

It was an outrage. I remember. As I was reflecting this morning, as I often do, I was thinking to myself, john, I. I am. I really love Doing this show with you. Of all the things I could be doing with my life at 61. Yeah, it's Rocky. It's a roller coaster, but it is fun. Let's just admit it. I mean, you could have to be booking guests. Have a.

[Adam Curry]

Well, that was the. Okay, let's just. For people out there, we don't want to bore you stiff with. With the background how great we are.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, no, we're great. Come on.

[Adam Curry]

We're great decision. The best decision we ever made when we came up with this show idea was to never have guests. People out there have no idea.

[John C. Dvorak]

They really don't. They really don't.

[Adam Curry]

It's the worst.

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean, I saw Joe Rogan had Miranda. Miranda Lambert on, which I thought was an interesting choice. But then you really know that the podcast, the Pot Osphere has become saturated with guests. When Joe's reaching for. Really, that's very off. Almost off brand for him. Do you even know who Miranda Lambert is?

[Adam Curry]

No, I do not. I'm waiting for you to kind of tell me without embarrassing me. Well, the fact that I don't know who the hell.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, she's a very famous country singer, and she was married to Blake Shelton.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yes. No, I do know who it is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. No.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. No. Before Blake dumped her to run off with the blonde.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. From no Doubt. From no Doubt.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

That girl.

[Adam Curry]

The no Doubt girl.

[John C. Dvorak]

The no Doubt girl. Yeah. And you know something? I just ever. It's like. And I get. How many notes did you. I got. You need to watch Tucker and Nick Fuentes. I know you hate Tucker, which, by the way, no Tucker at all. We like.

[Adam Curry]

Tucker's great.

[John C. Dvorak]

We like Tucker. Exactly. Just because we complain about him. I did watch that episode. I thought that was interesting. Mo actually tweeted out a funny meme. He said, finally, the war is settled between the FBI and the CIA. They're friends again. Now that's an inside joke, I guess.

[Adam Curry]

Well, it's a running gag or this show.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it's a running gag. Because, you know, the story is, of course, Tucker's a fed and Fuentes is a fed, and they. And they.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, that's a good bit.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's a good bit. And as I'm listening to that podcast, because I don't watch podcasts, I got no time to watch a podcast. I'll listen to the podcast. I'm like, this Fuentes, he's a political guy. I didn't realize he has a pack. And he does. You know, he organizes for people that he that he thinks should win office. He's political.

[Adam Curry]

He's a moneymaker.

[John C. Dvorak]

He must be. Well, I don't know if he's making a lot of money, but I'm sure he's.

[Adam Curry]

No, I mean in terms of making money for candidates. Yeah, he's a fundraiser. That's the word I should have used.

[John C. Dvorak]

So they had a lot more in common than they did differences. And as I'm listening to this and you know, all the Jew hate all that. Who cares? I don't care what they're talking about there. But I thought this was interesting that neither of them really are really honest about their feelings towards other countries other than Israel. Listen to this little clip. I just feel like it needs to be called out explicitly. And I like what you said. If the other day. If you're serving in another country's military or have dual, that clip is stopped.

[Adam Curry]

Did it go like. Did the thing tend to go. I like what you said the other day. I like what you said. No, I liked what you said. No, no, no, I liked what you said better than what you liked what I said.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, it wasn't like that. But this is particularly. This is. They both have a problem with Israel and the perception that Israel controls American politicians. That's. That's their. That's. That's where they really have common ground. Now, this show is of a different opinion that Israel does not control America indirectly. It may. It may have influence on our politicians through aipac, funded by the military industrial complex, who sends military for them to buy our stuff.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, before you continue, did you watch J.D. vance's speech at the University of Mississippi?

[John C. Dvorak]

Some of it, yeah, Some of it. Why?

[Adam Curry]

He brought this same. He brought the topic up.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, gosh, I wish I did not see that. What did he say?

[Adam Curry]

He brought the top. I didn't clip it. He's really a good speaker. It's kind of surprising how good he is. But he brought the topic up. He's totally with us.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, really? No. Okay, I'll have to clip it now. Now I'll have to go and.

[Adam Curry]

Well, just go look at it. I mean, it was a little longer than I'd like.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well, just for prosperity. But this is true. This is blatantly true. And you notice how that noise is kind of simmered down a little bit, but not with these two. But here's the thing that I just felt was like, oh, you know, it just hit me like, no, you guys are full of crap. Listen, I just feel like it needs to be called out explicitly. And I like what you said the other day. If you're serving in another country's military or have dual citizenship, you really can't be a part of this project. Well, that's just.

[Adam Curry]

That's an easy one. But I am much more comfortable as a Christian and an American keeping it.

[John C. Dvorak]

On that level because, you know, it's easy to just set rules that. Universal rules that apply to everyone, not.

[Adam Curry]

Just the Jews or the Christians or the. Anybody.

[John C. Dvorak]

Just like Americans can only serve in the US Military or they lose their passport. I mean, I don't know. That's not hard. And I don't know why not.

[Adam Curry]

Why not just say that?

[John C. Dvorak]

No saying that. So as I'm listening to that, I'm like, where were Tucker and Fuentes about the hundreds, perhaps thousands of people who went and fought for the Ukrainians? How come I didn't hear anyone talking about, well, you can't do that. That's you're fighting for a different country, you should lose your passport. Yeah, just like, great catch. Yeah. So that just shows a severe bias. But then on the other hand, it was fascinating to hear Fuentes, and now I agree with him on this one. He was talking about an assassination attempt that was made against him. And it was some. Some young guy who. The whole story is kind of lengthy, so I didn't include that. Some young guy who. He had a fight with his roommate and he shot his roommate, then shot his parents and then went to go kill Fuentes, which didn't happen, luckily for him, of course. But here's his thinking of who was behind this. I mean, it's a well documented fact.

[Adam Curry]

That all kinds of bad actors use.

[John C. Dvorak]

Unstable people for political assassinations. Right?

[Adam Curry]

It's happened.

[John C. Dvorak]

We know it's happened. So here's Tucker setting it up like, come on, man, we know Israel did it.

[Adam Curry]

So do you think this might be.

[John C. Dvorak]

An example of that? I don't think so, but it's certainly possible. The reason I say I don't think so, kind of funny you're.

[Adam Curry]

I mean, I think of you as conspiracy minded, but you don't have a.

[John C. Dvorak]

Conspiracy in mind here. No, because I really believe that when you look at all these things, and by these things, I mean these, like, really disturbing instances of violence like Luigi Mangion or Charlie Kirk or these school shootings, there is something going on with these kids. It's nihilism. It's these people that are maybe mentally defective. Extremely online. I think there's like a real problem there. And. And I don't Doubt that sometimes these people are involved with maybe a foreign government or they're being groomed or put up to it by an operative. But I think to assume that it's.

[Adam Curry]

Always that ignores that like there's a.

[John C. Dvorak]

Very real problem of nihilistic, surrealist violence that comes from young people. And you know, like this guy killed. It's a triple homicide out of nowher and then he tries to kill me. I think he just went crazy, but I could be wrong. Oh, oh. Off brand Charlie Kirk. Oh, no. Very good. Nick Quintus. I like that. Like. No, these are just kids who have been. Who've been psyoped and gone nuts by discord and social media and drugs.

[Adam Curry]

I like to use. I like the use of his term extremely online.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Did you hear that in there?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, that's almost a show title.

[Adam Curry]

These kids are extremely online. I've heard what? Extremely online.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow. And I think I heard that somewhere else actually. Extremely. Yeah, it may be kind of.

[Adam Curry]

It's an interesting term because it, it's not really. It's something. It's so strange. It doesn't really make sense. It's almost a non sequitur, which will. That use of that word annoys a couple of our grammarians.

[John C. Dvorak]

What? Non sequitur?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, they, they. I've gotten some notes on. On our use of the term. We're not. We're misusing it in some screwball way.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh. What is the correct usage of non?

[Adam Curry]

Well, it means something that it's a non sequitur is a sentence that. That within itself doesn't make sense in the broadest definition, but it's very specific. If you're one of these ant fuckers that are out there that listen to our show.

[John C. Dvorak]

They went into some good stuff about extremely online about porn. It was funny. Tucker's like, what even is online porn? Like what, what?

[Adam Curry]

Huh?

[John C. Dvorak]

Huh? You know, leads you to transgenderism and Fuentes. I didn't clip that, but it was, it's worth listening to. It was, you know, considering how they've spoken about each other in their own shows. It was like, okay, there was no fireworks. It was like the mutual admiration club. It's interesting.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

You run into that in the overnight. Europe is slowly deteriorating and falling. This was unexpected even by my stand, even by the polling standards.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

The big winner of this Dutch election is 38 year old Rob Yetton with his Centre Left party D66, a pro European. His. His popularity skyrocketed in the final stretch of the election. His message was full of optimism and his strong media presence resonated with the Dutch people.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is an historic election result because.

[Adam Curry]

We'Ve shown not only to the Netherlands.

[John C. Dvorak]

But also to the world that it is possible to beat populist and extreme right movements. And I'm very eager to cooperate with other parties.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

The campaign focused mainly on immigration and the housing crisis, which particularly affects young people in this densely populated country. It's a disappointing night for the far right leader who topped the polls in 2023.

[Adam Curry]

It is a significant loss, but we.

[John C. Dvorak]

Are still a large party.

[Guest or Additional Commentator]

I'm sure we can find a way up next time.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

It was Geert Wilders himself who triggered these early elections. He withdrew his party from a fragile four party coalition for not being tough enough on immigration, which brought down the outgoing government. His score in this is being closely scrutinized across Europe and serves as a barometer of the strength of the far right across the country.

[John C. Dvorak]

The far right. The far right is crashing and burning. I think Eva Flaardingebroug had the best. Had the best analysis. Blondie.

[Adam Curry]

You know, I could never pronounce her name.

[John C. Dvorak]

Fl. Yeah, I know. It's.

[Adam Curry]

She changed her name to some Hollywood style name.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, let's say Eva Jones. No, that's not Hollywood.

[Adam Curry]

Well, Eva Smith. Eva Smith would be good.

[John C. Dvorak]

Eva Eden. There you go. Eva Eden, you know, brings up Garden of Eden. Eve. Eva Eden. That would be perfect. That's a good Hollywood name. Call Brunetti.

[Adam Curry]

Eva Eden. What the problem? I have a problem with the way it doesn't. It doesn't. I don't think it flows as well as Eva St. James. We do better.

[John C. Dvorak]

How about Eva St. James?

[Adam Curry]

Well, I like the idea of slipping the Saint name in there if you're going to do a fake name because that makes the person look, you know, better than they are in some subconscious way. I like it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Here's what Eva St. James said. She said, ugh. That's Dutch.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

Ugh.

[John C. Dvorak]

This means more mass migration, more replacement, more climate regulations, more censorship, more eu, more gender madness. And Rob Yetton, a woke openly gay champagne socialist, will most likely become the country's Prime Minister. They forgot to mention that in the report that he's a gay champagne socialist.

[Adam Curry]

I like Champagne Socialist.

[John C. Dvorak]

Another show title. Yes, that is good.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I think that should bring us to this woman, Naomi.

[John C. Dvorak]

Which one?

[Adam Curry]

She's a German girl who set up a lot of. She's very famous in Germany and she's. This is Naomi Siebert or Selb. I can't even pronounce her last name. But she is a. A big supporter of AfD in Germany and she is asking for asylum in the United States.

[John C. Dvorak]

Bring her on in. She's welcome right away. No problem.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

My name is Naomi Zeit.

[Adam Curry]

Sorry, I have two clips.

[John C. Dvorak]

I was on cue. Just so you know.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

My name is Naomi Zeit and I am the first European to seek asylum in the United States of America under President Trump's new proposal for a refugee mandate. Because I am facing persecution in my home country, Germany, for my political views, for my support for the AfD party, the only opposition party in Germany, and most importantly, for my advocacy for free speech, I have become the target of severe government and intelligence surveillance and harassment. My communications have been intercepted and my family has been stalked by reporters for the state media for whom we pay taxes. And I continue to receive death threats from Antifa.

[John C. Dvorak]

Before we continue, the Troll room has an important question for you. The question is, is she hot?

[Adam Curry]

She is a. This is interesting. She's got a. She's got a look that's very distinctive German, but it's a, it's not the American style of hot, but I think, I think she's a German style of hot.

[John C. Dvorak]

Number. Give her a number. Give her a number.

[Adam Curry]

I give her an 8, 5, 9.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow. Oh. Oh, that's.

[Adam Curry]

But that's from a European. If I was a European. She doesn't have. What she's missing for Americans is she doesn't have that big million dollar smile.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, that's too bad. Well, let me.

[Adam Curry]

She's got kind of, she's got kind of a small, that, that's that old fashioned small doll mouth. So she looks like a German doll. She's got a doll face.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, she's sheeped. She's blond. Oh, she looks a bit like Avril Lavigne in her younger years, only with blonde hair.

[Adam Curry]

And by the way, it's offensive to a lot of people out there that we talk like this.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, this is, this is.

[Adam Curry]

But we' media executives, which is what we are.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. We need to determine does she have legs? And.

[Adam Curry]

I don't know. I didn't see her legs.

[John C. Dvorak]

Does she, does she have legs in the media? She is.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, definitely.

[John C. Dvorak]

She is the alter ego to Greta Thunberg, I would say.

[Adam Curry]

Well, she's. That's where she got her reputation.

[John C. Dvorak]

Ah, okay, let's continue.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

When I asked the police for help in the past about these death threats, they did not offer me help because physical harm had not occurred yet. President Trump has correctly identified Antifa as a terrorist organization. But meanwhile, The German government silently condone these attacks on their own citizens as if they are soldiers for their agenda. This year, I helped arrange the viral ex live conversation between Elon Musk and AfD leader Ali Seidel, which I'm sure many of you have seen as it drew international media coverage. While Europe is becoming a breeding ground for tyranny, America still treats the right to free speech as sacred. And thank God for that. In Germany, it is illegal under paragraph 188, which was extended under former Chancellor Angela Merkel to insult or damage the reputation of a politician. I will not apologize for violating their legal special protection because in a democracy, politicians must tolerate criticism.

[John C. Dvorak]

She's kind of The German Eva St. J, wouldn't you say?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I guess.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. That's good. I like her rap. She's got clear diction.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah, she's very. She's like the Dutch girl. She's the Dutch girl is. She has a funny style that I. I've always been kind of fascinated with. She's the Dutch girl I think is a little colder in a Dutch way. That kind of. That neutral style of presentation.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, I was.

[Adam Curry]

I would call it, matter of fact. Yeah, this girl's got a little more emotion underneath it. She's slightly irked, but she's doing this sincerely. So.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah. Well, let's. You got another clip here. This is good.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

The reason why the German government and intelligence gained an interest in me is because I was the very first young English speaking influencer to openly align with the AfD party right of center political views. And most importantly, I supported President Trump since he came down the golden escalator in 2015 and announced that he was running for President. Trump's election victory was the crack in the matrix that terrified globalist tyrants. And now I am the bridge between Germany and the MAGA movement which the European Union desperately wants to burn. You may remember me from 2020 when I appeared on Fox and on the front page of the Washington Post and became internationally recognized as the anti Greta Thunberg. Yeah, they did. Now I am a representative for Deutschland Korea, Germany's leading alternative media outlet, whose editor in chief, David Bendels received a seven months probation sentence earlier this year because he posted a meme mocking the Interior Minister's hatred of free speech. Quite ironic if you ask me. This is why I started working with them, because I stand in solidarity with his admirable courage. I am publicly sharing my asylum request now as President Trump has announced new refugee priorities, including Europeans who have been targeted for their Peaceful expression of views online, such as opposition to mass migration and support for populist parties, according to the New York Times. But if you think I ran away cowardly and abandoned my homeland, you would be mistaken. This is only the beginning. I am seeking protection under the United States government to expose the truth about the tyranny of Germany and the European Union, who have made the MAGA administration their enemies. And I encourage everybody in Europe to stand up for what MAGA represents and turn it into mega. Let's fight, fight, fight.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow. I. I think I propose a prisoner swap. We'll take Naomi and we'll give you. We'll give you David Hasselhoff. I think that's a fair swap.

[Adam Curry]

They take David Hassell.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, they love him. They love him. They love the Hoff. You know, in a way, she reminds me more of Ancilla. Like a German Ancilla.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah, she's got you might be right there.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, Ancilla. I think Ancilla's running for. I don't know. I wonder how she did. I think they were. She had. They set up some political party. I don't know if they got any votes or not.

[Adam Curry]

Any seats?

[John C. Dvorak]

Any seats.

[Adam Curry]

These women, these European women, they don't mess around. Those three that you mentioned.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Really have a. They're very. They're like. They're like scorned. And they have a. They're just very. They're out there how to do damage in a very. But they're not doing it in a shouting, crazy, nutty way like the liberal American. Liberal woman. Yeah, they're doing it pretty a. It's. I would say calmly.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, that's a good catch. I had not heard of her, but I think she totally should have asylum here.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, she'll get it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Give her. We'll set her up with a podcast rig. She'll be good to go.

[Adam Curry]

Help her get a. Become a podcaster. She could probably talk for days.

[John C. Dvorak]

Happy to do it. Happy to do it. Absolutely. Ah, let's see. Well, there. There's a lot of interesting things happening around the world. Although if you watch the M5M, you wouldn't know too much about it. You know, the. This. First of all, our president went to Malaysia and was welcomed by the YMCA song. And he danced to it.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. You.

[John C. Dvorak]

You. That was. That was. That made me proud to be an American.

[Adam Curry]

It was the funniest. He was dancing the whole time, except when he was in Korea. And I have some comments about that because I have the Korea. What do you happen in Korea clip.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah, let's do that.

[Adam Curry]

Let's do the Korea clip with a follow up. I'm looking maybe Trump, I think at the bottom.

[John C. Dvorak]

Trump, Trump, Korea deal. Here we go.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

The U.S. and South Korea affirmed Seoul investing 350, $50 billion into the U.S. they've been negotiating for months on the details of their trade agreement, including how the money would be distributed. All the details of the agreement are yet to be released, but 150 billion of the investment will go towards revitalizing US shipbuilding. Tariffs on South Korean goods will also be lowered from 25 to 15%. Trump met South Korea's president separately and as part of a formal dinner with heads of state, states of other countries. At the table was also Canada's Prime Minister, Mark Carney, who Trump has been upset with recently over tariff negotiations.

[John C. Dvorak]

Carney barely made it. Any of the reports. They all kind of like pushed him away.

[Adam Curry]

Well, he wasn't making a lot of noise either.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, he. Nor should he.

[Adam Curry]

So I have to plug Chanel Rion, who is Korean.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. Oh, is she Korean?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it's half Korean.

[John C. Dvorak]

American.

[Adam Curry]

Korean, American.

[John C. Dvorak]

Interesting.

[Adam Curry]

But she sees herself as Korean when she does reporting on Korea. She did a thing and I want to plug my. The Real Dvorak Twitter account. Maybe I can get some numbers back up.

[John C. Dvorak]

I heard on the DH unplug when you do that, your numbers go down.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. I think because I think you're not paying.

[John C. Dvorak]

You're a non paying blue chip.

[Adam Curry]

I'm pretty sure that's that and other things. But I retweeted that she. I would have clipped it, but it was a little too long. It was too. Indeed. It was too detailed. She did a. I've never heard anyone else do this. Analyze the Korea meeting that Trump had with Lee. She hates Lee. She says he's a stooge of the. Of the. Of Xi in China. He's a communist, he's no good. And everything that happened there, they didn't give him a good anything close to what would be a high end reception, according to her. And she says that crown that they gave him wasn't some sort of a gag or a joke or a reference. That crown that they gave him is the crown you put in graves.

[Guest or Additional Commentator]

No.

[John C. Dvorak]

No way.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. She says that particular crown is put in tombs with the dead.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow. That is.

[Adam Curry]

Everyone in Korea knows this and everyone in Korea hates this guy Lee who's running the place. And they love Trump, according to her. They love Trump and they hate Lee and they all know that this was a major Insult. And then they have the meeting. She continues. And then they have the meeting with Xi. Not in China or in any place cool, but in the Busan airport. A lousy venue was a further insult. The entire event in Korea was one insult after another. And she documented them all. And I retweeted it.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

It.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, I never heard this any.

[John C. Dvorak]

You have video of her saying that?

[Adam Curry]

If you go to Twitter and go. She posted it. It's a Twitter.

[John C. Dvorak]

But you blocked me so I can't see you.

[Adam Curry]

I didn't block you. Bull crap. Maybe from the email, but no, not from Twitter.

[John C. Dvorak]

That is a great piece of analysis. And everywhere, all you heard in all media, mainstream and alternative here is, look, he gave Trump the king the crown. The crown, the golden crown. And it turns out to be an insult. Like you're a dead man to us. Holy crap. Yeah, only on your no Agenda show people.

[Adam Curry]

Unbelievable.

[John C. Dvorak]

And One America News. Apparently, if you can find one American.

[Adam Curry]

News, she writes her own material.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's good.

[Adam Curry]

I found that out over time and she's pretty good.

[John C. Dvorak]

I did get the translated opening remarks from garage in the meeting, which everybody was there, two sides of the table. And this was at the airport? Is that what you're saying? This Xi meeting was at the Busan airport? That's crazy. Well, it was good though.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

Mr. President, you care a lot about world peace and you are very enthusiastic about settling various regional hotspot issues. I appreciate your great contribution to the recent conclusion of the Gaza ceasefire agreement. During your visit to Malaysia, you witnessed the signing of the joint declaration on peace along the Cambodia Thailand border, to which you had provided input. China has been helping in our own way Cambodia and Thailand properly settle their border disputes. And we have also been promoting peace talks to resolve other hotspot issues.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hotspots, Lots of hot spots that Xi was talking about. But then he kind of solidifies a bit of the arc. The way I see it, America, Russia, China, he's like, hey, you know, we're kind of buddies, you know, we have our differences, but we can work it all out. We're doing stuff, we've been in contact, we're close. We're not, you know, like, we're not doing no sleepovers, but we're, we're hanging in there together.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

And it seems very warm seeing you again because it's been many years since your re election. We have spoken on the phone three times, exchanged several letters and stayed in close contact. And our joint guidance, China, US relations have remained stable on the whole, given our different national conditions, we do not always see eye to eye with each other. And it is normal for the two leading economies of the world to have frictions now and then. And in the face of winds, waves and challenges, you and I at the helm of China, U. S Relations should stay the right course and ensure the steady sailing forward of the giant ship of China. US Relationships. I always believe that China's development goes hand in hand with your vision to make America great again. Our two countries are fully able to help each other succeed and prosper together. Over the years, I have stated in public many times that China and the United States should be partners and friends. This is what history has taught us and what reality demands. A few days ago, in the latest round of consultation, our two economic and trade teams reached basic consensus on addressing our respective major concerns and made encouraging progress.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sounds good to me. Doesn't sound like we're about to go to war in 2027. Unless it's some kind of setup over Taiwan.

[Adam Curry]

Well, it could be bull crap. And also, they understood Chinese are notorious for understatement. So you don't know what they're really saying. Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, yeah, I guess.

[Adam Curry]

And you know, because you can't say anything nasty. And let's just see if a soybean deal goes through.

[John C. Dvorak]

Scott Besant will be happy.

[Adam Curry]

At least that will be a start. We'll see.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, the soybean deal is like 180,000 tons or something. That's nothing like the millions of tons they used to take from us. It's not a huge deal. It's just a start.

[Adam Curry]

But we, but we have a. Because the soybean thing is important to our. Our farmers. It's a symbolic gesture for our farmers because they got irked by the fact that they got cut off, cut out of the deal, and they're not bringing the soybeans in anymore, you know, so it's.

[John C. Dvorak]

Did you know that. Did you know that Besant is a. Is a soybean farmer?

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[Guest or Additional Commentator]

I didn't.

[Adam Curry]

I'd like a little more in the conversation, I think, on DH Unplugged or.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'd like a little. Here. Here's the clip of him saying it.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

The president has also said he does.

[John C. Dvorak]

Want our farmers to be taken care of. You did mention that China has been.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

Boycotting American soybeans and American farmers have really suffered. Do you see a real light at.

[John C. Dvorak]

The end of the tunnel there?

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

They may allow soybeans again.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, Martha, in case you don't know it, I'm actually a soybean farmer, so I have felt this pain too. And there are a couple of things happening here.

[Adam Curry]

One what he owns, he's got, he. He is one of a hedge fund or something and he is part of, has a soybean holdings. And so thus.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, so I can say I own Apple stock. So I'm an iPhone engineer, Is that it?

[Adam Curry]

Well, you can't say you're an iPhone engineer, but you can say you're an iPhone farmer. Let's put it in that. Let's try to make that work. Okay, you own Apple stocks. You can say I make phones. So I understand how this works.

[John C. Dvorak]

I make phones. Yeah, exactly. I'm in AI. Yeah. Okay, well, so along these lines, I gotta go to the neighbor. So the neighbor down the road, Laura, Laura Logan.

[Adam Curry]

Is this a bad neighbor? He's given us no updates. And by the way, I'm irked by this.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, because there is no. We're in limbo. We're in limbo right now. There's been no updates. There's nothing. The text group has gone quiet. Although Claudia next door, she's from the Dominican Republic.

[Adam Curry]

She's next door? Yeah, she's next door like two acres.

[John C. Dvorak]

Claudia's next door.

[Adam Curry]

It's not like you.

[John C. Dvorak]

So I'm walking, I'm walking Phoebe and she has this little rat dog called Fifi and then some other like sausage dog.

[Adam Curry]

The little dog's called feces.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, feces it is now. The little dog called Feces. And she's walking with her boyfriend, Japanese American veteran, and he has a hot little sausage dog. And so I'm walking feet with. Hey, Adam, how you doing? Like, hey, hey, Claudia. And she's what's up with these children over there? They're going too fast. They're driving around. Then I and I told us, well, you know, we're talking about the ho. That's good because I'm a Dominican Republic Karen. It makes me a what she called Carmen. I'm a Carmen. Be careful. I'm all about it. So that's the only update I have more coming. I'm sure this is going to come to a head.

[Adam Curry]

We have the Dominican Carmen in the neighborhood.

[John C. Dvorak]

Everyone needs a good Carmen and she needs to be on our side, which I like. So no, the other neighbor, Laura Logan down the street, she has goin rogue with Laura Logan. She finally doesn't have no agenda in her name, in her show name. So that's good. And she went to Moscow to interview Kirill Dmitriev, which is kind of funny because the guy's been in the Us? Well, that's a good question. I don't know. I suspect it's. What I think is happening is that there's money from General Flynn's nonprofit.

[Adam Curry]

Okay. We'll just assume Flynn Center.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm going to think Flynn center, and probably to set up an interview with Putin. But that did.

[Adam Curry]

With her and Putin.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I think so.

[Adam Curry]

Putin would go for that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, it didn't happen this time. So they gave her Kirill Dmitriev, who is.

[Adam Curry]

He was. He was the clearing guy. He's gonna say, yeah, she'll be good. You'll like her. She's petty.

[John C. Dvorak]

Gaboomba. You like Vladimir Kaboomba, you like her. And as an aside, as a media executive, the red lipstick she had on was just. Just that, you know, two shades of red. Two red. You know what I mean? It's just sometimes if you're an engine.

[Adam Curry]

Can there be red lipstick that's too red, or is it just. Or is it a darker shade that just. No, it doesn't look good.

[John C. Dvorak]

It was too. It was too, you know, like red. You know, just a white face and boing. These lips pop out.

[Adam Curry]

It has to be done with the. Yeah, you have to.

[John C. Dvorak]

You need to tone it down.

[Adam Curry]

You need a pro. She should have brought on makeup artists.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think it's pretty low budget, these things, but they had a hotel room set up and everything.

[Adam Curry]

Low budget. Can it be if flying to Moscow?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I don't know, because my. My buddy Luke was supposed to go, but his visa got. And he's a J6er, so he had all kinds of visa problems. You're a terrorist. No, I'm not. Look, I got pardoned. Let me in. So he. He didn't go. So I'm not sure who went, but I'll get details from Luke. But the funny thing is, Kirill Dmitriev, she gets back and this guy's here in America doing interviews everywhere. Like, you didn't need to go to Moscow, but she did. And so he is Steve Witkoff's counterpart.

[Adam Curry]

Well, you know, you should talk, get together with her and find. Because I would like to know right now what Moscow is like. Is it bustling? I get the sense that it is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, I think it's very colorful and bustling. I'm sure it is. You know. Well, it's only 45 minutes, so if you. If you want to listen to it or watch it, it's out there. Rogue on the road, everybody. And so I got three clips from it. The first one a little long, but this is Kirill Delivering the message in multiple ways. Hitting Christianity, hitting trans Maoism, all of this stuff saying you gotta and something that we, we both believe and know to be true, that Americans and Russians are very, very similar. Even when it was the ussr, very similar, you know, nationalistic.

[Adam Curry]

They just are drinkers big time.

[Guest or Additional Commentator]

Let me go back to how traditional values and other things unite us. Because President Putin has started talking about focus on traditional values not, not this year, not five years ago, but when he really became president. So for more than 20 years ago, he's been focused on really making sure that, you know, it's not a woke world. It's a world where there is a man and a woman. The focus on the family, on Christian values. And I think that is very, very important. And he was calling out the fakeness of the woke narrative for a long time. And by the way, just like President Trump, just as President Trump. And by the way, I loved, I reposted one of your posts where you had this vocal vocabulary where people say.

[John C. Dvorak]

What they really mean and what they really mean.

[Guest or Additional Commentator]

Yeah. So I think the honesty and be straightforward, you know, not political correctness. But calling things the way they are is important. I would give another, I think very poignant example of Charlie Kirk. So Charlie Kirk really resonated with the Russian people. And when this horrible tragedy happened, not only President Putin gave condolences, but Russian church actually did an article recognizing Charlie Kirk's contributions.

[John C. Dvorak]

Did you hear anything about Putin's condolences? I don't remember that.

[Adam Curry]

I don't either.

[John C. Dvorak]

Why would we to Christianity?

[Adam Curry]

Who's going to tell us?

[John C. Dvorak]

Exactly.

[Guest or Additional Commentator]

So they see him not only as somebody who is an advocate of family, not only advocate on campuses, but really as a religious sort of thinker. The contemporary religious thinker is interesting because.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

Of course under Marxism there is no room for religion. I mean, Karl Marx did not was a nihilist when it came to God.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[Guest or Additional Commentator]

But Russia is actually quite a religious country.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

Yes.

[Guest or Additional Commentator]

So if you go, and I hope you can go to our Orthodox churches, etc. It's a very religious country and very much focused on values. So in reality we see view the world very similarly. Where we see for example, immigrants in Europe and what Biden tried to do in the US is crazy. You know, I actually have a theory about this. I believe that Biden.

[John C. Dvorak]

Listen now it's as if he talked to you before the interview. Here's his theory. When I saw, I heard this, I'm like, wow, John needs to hear this.

[Guest or Additional Commentator]

West is crazy. You know, I actually have A theory about this. I believe that Biden wanted Democrats to stay in power forever. So what he did, he figured out immigrants, criminals and transgender. They were Democrats. So then he increased the number of criminals, he increased the number of immigrants, and there was a huge transgender spike, which is by the way now coming down. He turned to normalcy during his era, turn to reality. All of that was to stay in power. All of those things that Russia is tough on and Europe is not tough on. So I think another thing we see is, for example, Europe with allowing illegal immigration, with allowing lots ofvote policy. JD Vance said it's basically suicide of European civilization. And we also see it very similarly. So to summarize, I think we all care about our families, we all care about education of our children, we all care about having good economy, good growth. And we are much more similar. And what happened during Biden administration and actually started with Obama, Russiagate is Russiagate tried to vilify President Trump tried to vilify Russia. And from that time, Russia became like really bad, bad, bad in the people in the US More and more conservatives understand that those were fake, not true narratives.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right, so he's clearly saying, hey, you know, like we're kind of the same. We got the guy who got a president who thinks the same, just doing all the same. And then he blew my mind with a setup from Logan about the North Sea Nexus and the Brits.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

But do you think there's an irony that a lot of this woke ideology comes out of cultural Marxism?

[Guest or Additional Commentator]

Well, again, I don't frankly go that deeply because you can all tie it. And Marxism came from Europe. And by the way, you know, Marx didn't like Russia so much.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

Well, Marx was hired by Henry Rothschild to create a system of social control and paid by the British.

[Guest or Additional Commentator]

But okay, going back to British, you know, British, I believe are incredibly aggressive to instill different things worldwide. They're suffering from loss of immigration, from digital ID they now try to implement which is really a way to control people.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

And I think it's insanity.

[Guest or Additional Commentator]

It is insanity. You know, Prime Minister Starmer is the least popular prime minister in the history of government Great Britain. I had to mention on Twitter that his great speech when President Trump called him in Egypt and pretended to give him a word and then said no, go back. And he didn't even get to speak. So I think you have really the issue with Britain, some European countries. And by the way, we love, you know, European people and British people, but they've been taken over by aggressive politicians who really try to control their societies and who try to hide the problems of those societies, but by making Russia a victim and who work a lot by basically not a victim, but making Russia bad and working a lot to really undermine any discussion we may have with the US that is a big fear for many of the forces in UK and the liberal forces in Europe that Russia and us would actually have. Have a good dialogue.

[John C. Dvorak]

Ah, so this guy's good. And then the last clip, which is short, where.

[Adam Curry]

Before you go. Yeah, can you, can I, can I interrupt?

[John C. Dvorak]

Of course.

[Adam Curry]

Since you brought. Since he brought up digital id. Yes, David, Ike made some commentary.

[John C. Dvorak]

David, Ike. Okay. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

On digital id. I thought we should.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's been a while since we've had Ike on the show.

[Adam Curry]

I've had. I've had this clip for two or three shows. I can't get it in. I have this moment.

[John C. Dvorak]

Here we go. Digital id. David Icke, everybody. This is the door closing that's not intended to be opened again. And the idea is everything you do, I mean everything, eventually you will need a digital ID and your digital ID will be connected, connected to a digital currency. If you want to see what's planned for the west tomorrow, then look at China today, where if you are not behaving in a way that the government wants you to behave, then you lose credits in their social credit system. And if you lose enough, you can't go on a plane, you can't go on a train, basically take part in mainstream society. You are excluded. This is a global agenda. This is not about Keir Starmer. He's a gopher. It's not about Donald Trump. He's a gopher. And they're gophers for this global network that I call the global cult. And the idea is to eventually have a world government which won't be elected, purely appointed technocrats, bureaucrat that will oversee this AI digital system system. And you won't be able to go anywhere in the world without this system is tracking you here. We are now looking at this line in the sand, and if we allow it to be crossed, it's going to be very, very difficult to push back. And that's why it's so vital that the people, well, this country, but all countries realize the scale of freedom deletion. This digital ID is a massive step towards and fundamental to the deletion of freedom. So I agree with Ike that this is the plan. I disagree that Trump is some stooge in the plan. If he has the right people explaining the technology to him, and I believe he does. I don't think he'll let that happen. This is the globalist dream, no doubt about it. And I didn't clip it, but Dimitriev said. He said, you know, digital ID in China says they're open and transparent about it. They haven't tricked their people into it, and it's been very successful for them how they control their billion people. He says, unlike the uk, where they're bringing it in on the sly and they're going to capture their people without being honest about it. And I thought that was an interesting observation, that, you know, China, I guess the people of China, they like it.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. You know, I'm not sure that's true. He may have been doing that. That commentary may have been part of a. A fear of China.

[John C. Dvorak]

Possibly.

[Adam Curry]

Possibly because there's a number of YouTube videos out there showing the. The. The homeless in China who have been kicked to the curb by the digital. By the social scoring system.

[John C. Dvorak]

They should have followed the rules. What's wrong with you?

[Adam Curry]

Exactly.

[John C. Dvorak]

What's wrong with you?

[Adam Curry]

They should have followed the rules. What were they doing? What were they thinking?

[John C. Dvorak]

What are you thinking? Follow the rules, you're homeless. Hello. That's how it works in China. Yeah, but this has been Ike's thing forever. What gets me is like, oh, bitcoin is a part of this. And the blockchain, like, no, no, it's not. That's where he loses me. Just because he doesn't.

[Adam Curry]

Well, he didn't say that in that clip.

[John C. Dvorak]

Not in that clip. But I've heard him. I follow Ike. Ever since the Reptilians, I've been on board.

[Adam Curry]

Well, yeah, once he came up with that, he was gold.

[John C. Dvorak]

His podcast gold, I tell you. So then, final clip from Kirill Dmitriev. He brings up the tunnel.

[Guest or Additional Commentator]

And by the way, President Putin also mentioned that in Arctic, we would love to have US Companies participate in our oil fields, in our gas fields.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

Well, there's cooperation in the International Space Station.

[Guest or Additional Commentator]

Yes. And by the way, yesterday I tweeted about, maybe we should have a tunnel connecting us and Russia. And with Elon Musk's boring company, the tunnel can cost only $8 billion, and the original problem price was 36 billion. So we have modern technologies that can really unite us. And yes, of course, we also have to be cognizant that many people in the US don't want Russia to get close. They have interest in, you know, basically weapons sector and other sector. But I think at least having dialogue, at least having better understanding of one another is definitely in the interest to avoid security risks worldwide.

[John C. Dvorak]

The tunnel. I love it. We need a name for this tunnel.

[Adam Curry]

We need a name.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Adam Curry]

Russia. The United States. Russia, Alaska. That's where it goes. The Runnel. The funnel.

[John C. Dvorak]

The funnel. I like the funnel Tunnel. Just call it the funnel. That's good. So since we bring up globalists here, globalist number one, who was trying to get back on the stage. I'm not sure exactly why, other than to help. Gavin Newsom's Prop 50 is Barack Obama, and he was at the Connecticut Forum. I'm not sure what that is. And this is his idea of the future of journalism. Part of what we're going to have to do is to start experimenting with new forms of journalism. And how do we use social media in ways that. That reaffirm facts, separate facts from opinion? We want diversity of opinion. We don't want diversity of facts. That, I think, is one of the big tasks of social media, by the way. It will require some government, I believe some government regulatory constraints around some of these business models in a way that's consistent with the First Amendment. Oh, yeah.

[Adam Curry]

But that also says, look, look, look, look.

[John C. Dvorak]

There is a difference between these platforms letting all voices be heard versus a business, business model that elevates the most hateful voices or the most polarizing voices or the most dangerous in the sense of inciting violence voices. And that, I think, is going to.

[Adam Curry]

Be a big challenge for all of.

[John C. Dvorak]

Us that we're going to have to undertake. Unbelievable.

[Adam Curry]

And luckily, dug himself into a hole there at the end. Get himself out.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah. And luckily we have podcastlicense.com. we'll have to reinstate that. When it comes down to it, you'll have to have a license to podcast if Barack Obama has anything to do with it. I love how he says, you know, within the scope of the First Amendment, like, no law. No law, Mr. President. No law, no infringement.

[Adam Curry]

I can see the logic behind podcast licenses by doing the parallel with broadcast licenses.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, in that case, I'm glad you bring it up. If we need to be careful of the voices inciting violence, then we need licenses for cable news talking heads as well. There's a.

[Adam Curry]

Well, they've been wanting to do that forever.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, here's Nicole Wallace, and this is kind of a super cut, but with longer, little longer clips. Conversation comes up and she's like, I've never heard anyone call Trump Hitler. I've never.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, well, this has been all over Fox.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, so we shouldn't play it?

[Adam Curry]

Is that what you're saying, well, it is. I think our listeners probably haven't heard it necessarily, but the compendium of people calling Trump Hitler Hitler is ridiculous. But even the compendiums don't even come close to the total absolute. If somebody Grabian or somebody put together a real super cup, thought they could have something very entertaining. But, yeah, she's actually said this and she's talking to Pritzker in an interview, and this has been. Yeah, this is amplified. I haven't suggested that Donald Trump is Hitler.

[John C. Dvorak]

I wouldn't.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

I don't think any Democrat has. I actually. And I. And I think it's a. It's a smear that they project back on to critics. What is the natural extension, Justin, if he pursues the. This to Harvard and beyond.

[Adam Curry]

There was an authoritarian leader several decades.

[John C. Dvorak]

Back called Adolf Hitler. Hitler came to power and the scientists left.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

The military survive in that climate in.

[Adam Curry]

The same way that it happened in Russia with Stalin, the same way it happened with Hitler.

[John C. Dvorak]

Eventually you get generals and admirals that are in there that only tell the leader what he or she wants to hear.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

To the extent that the rule of.

[Adam Curry]

Law and an assault on the rule.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

Of law was an obscure and tangible thing, we're now seeing it in action.

[Adam Curry]

If you look back in history, you. You can see very similar parallels taking place that took place in other countries that really went down that authoritarian road.

[John C. Dvorak]

Including in Pre World War II Nazi.

[Adam Curry]

Germany, when Hitler and Nazi officials basically took over Frankfurt University, which was the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Bastion of independent thought and progressive thinking and independent thinking, which is what Hitler didn't want.

[Adam Curry]

And so, again, this is what authoritarians do.

[John C. Dvorak]

They try to control all of the.

[Adam Curry]

Aspects of social life.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

When Trump, Trump talks about peace and Putin talks about peace, it's autocrats getting their way.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's it.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

And Mussolini and Hitler said they were being the purveyors of peace.

[Adam Curry]

I resisted for a long time analogies to Hitler's Germany. I've got in my sub stack today, though, it's really uncanny. The same episode where Hitler, early in.

[John C. Dvorak]

His tenure, before he's totally taken over.

[Adam Curry]

The government, some local prosecutors go after his brown shirts and they convict them, sends them, and then he releases them. It's really the same thing.

[John C. Dvorak]

Throwback to what?

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

Throwback to what? Poisoning.

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean, that is literally Hitlerian.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

What people think of what happened to us. The parallel here is to maybe show up on the shores and say, no, we'll go with.

[John C. Dvorak]

We'll go with Hitler.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

I mean, what do they think about the switching of sides with the turning of who occupies the Oval Office. I believe every voter who casts a vote, regardless of who they vote for, has to know that Donald Trump believes Hitler did some good things.

[Adam Curry]

Not true.

[John C. Dvorak]

No. I think it's time to roll out the Trump rotation, just for prosperity's sake.

[Adam Curry]

I have my list and you might want to see if there's anything I left out. This is the rotation. There's two categories. There's a regular and then there's the criminal. But here we go. Ready?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yep.

[Adam Curry]

Liar, incompetent, unhinged, illegitimate president, white supremacist, racist, bully, immature, Russian agent, narcissist, mean, long ties, insane tweets, too much, small hands, small penis, big red button. Criminal, mean, racist, immature, thin skinned, runs the mob, has no money, unstable, fatter than 239 pounds. Bankrupt, 25th amendment should be instituted. He hates women. Misogynist, holds grudges forever placed, Golf a lot. Obstruction of justice, money laundering and clown.

[John C. Dvorak]

John. No wonder we're making America white again. And cute. Just to add this on pbs, Washington Week. Pbs, pbs, pbs, the People's Public Broadcast system, funded by viewers like you. Here's how they opened up this week's Washington Week. Good evening and welcome to Washington Week. I want to start with an apology. We pride ourselves here on our accuracy, but we realized very late in the day that our backdrop is no longer correct because it still features the East Wing of the White House. Let me show you where it used to be. So this right here, that was the east wing. Now it's a hole. That's just a hole next to the White House. Over here, that's the West Wing. That's still standing as far as we know. Although I'm not there right now to prove it. In the back here, you got the. That's the Empire State Building. And over there, that's lax. And also we have, we got a cold front moving in from Ohio, so break out your sweaters. Anyway, we'll fix the picture to reflect the new reality once Congress restores our funding. The list I read at the top of all of the norm busting news from this week. Tonight, our overall subject is impunity. How does a president get to knock.

[Adam Curry]

Down the East Wing?

[John C. Dvorak]

Is that even legal? By what authority does he do the things he does? Oh, I do the things he does. He's a king. You can't have that. It's no good.

[Adam Curry]

Well, you have to. After that. That, that's hard to beat that. I'm gonna give you a clip of the day for coming Up.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow, wow, wow.

[Adam Curry]

What? So that they. They're no better than this. Tick tock. Clip of the ballroom, girl.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right. By the way, that goes to clip custodian.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

I just learned that I don't get to eat this month. I don't get my food stamps in the White House. An orange in the White House wants a ballroom for $3 billion. I don't get to eat. What? What? My government is supposed to help me, not hurt me.

[John C. Dvorak]

Why is it hurting me?

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

Why is it taking the money that we have paid into it to give us a ballroom? We don't have a king. Kings need balls. We don't. We're not. We're the citizens. We're public citizens. Why do we need a ballroom? We're not invited. That's a king's room. We don't need that. I need my food stamps. I need my food stamps or something's gonna happen.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I mean, this. You know, we've moved this from government workers not getting paid to. This is Chuck Schumer with his. I have to say, wonderful alliteration. He had to look at his paper continuously to get it all out, but he had the P's. He had the C's. And the West.

[Adam Curry]

The Schumer rant.

[John C. Dvorak]

Ye.

[Adam Curry]

So Trump is weaponizing, by the way. He's in a. They had. They definitely. They did a good job of finding a bucket.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

To put the mic in.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's not that bad. It's not that bad. This clip is better.

[Adam Curry]

Well, the version I have, I think is bad.

[John C. Dvorak]

Do you have a version with you?

[Adam Curry]

It's called. Yeah, it's on the clip list. It's a Schumer, Schumer in a bucket.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, no, it's. It's the same length. The same as mine. Let me hear your bucket. I don't. I didn't have a bucket. The Republican leadership thanked essential workers who are still on the job without pay. They pointed out that the largest union of federal workers is. Oh, that's shut down blather. I'm saying. Schumer, Schumer. Here we go. Oh, no. On Saturday, for the first time in American history, a vicious, heartless president is cutting off food stamps to hungry children, elderly who can't afford enough food. Yeah, I have a better version of. It's okay. Veterans who are down on their luck, all because he wants to use them as hostages so that Democrats will stop fighting for people's health care.

[Adam Curry]

We can do both.

[John C. Dvorak]

Provide better health care and provide snap benefits to the tens of millions who need It. This president is a fucking liar. He says there's no money to provide food stamps because of the shutdown. That's bullshit. His own Agriculture Department said there's plenty of money. Every president during shutdown shutdowns has provided the money that's needed. Even Trump in his first term, he is bludgeoning the American people, using the most innocent of victims to try and go along with his cruel shutdown, which takes away health care for millions of Americans. He is the most vindictive politician America has ever seen and the most heartless man America has ever seen in the presidency. We're fighting him every step of the way. So that was, wasn't AI. That had to be AI.

[Adam Curry]

No, that.

[John C. Dvorak]

He really said that?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, no. I have something completely different. This is, this is the.

[Adam Curry]

This is what this was. This was on. This was posted on his Twitter account.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow. What a douche.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, he's a total douche. The guy's out of control. He's losing numbers. That guy, that crazy guy on CNN who does all the stats, Internet, whatever. Democrats. Yeah, they've lost. They're getting to the point where they're going to lose the midterms big time if this keeps up because people aren't buying the story that the Democrats aren't the ones holding the country hostage.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. So there's the troll saying, your government is prioritizing Israel over you. Oh, you're so weak, bro. Ok. That is exactly what the Democrats want you to say. Good job. Here's the alliteration clip. So Trump is weaponizing hunger. He's turning millions of children and seniors and veterans into political pawns. He's choosing politics over people, cruelty over compassion. And let's be clear about this. They've been on a crusade. The Republicans have been on a crusade against SNAP all year. They slashed it by $200 billion this summer to pay for their tax cuts for billionaires. I love the. Was it politics over people? Something over compassion? Cruelty over compassion. Yeah, that's good. That's really good.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. And he's got. They had to bring this tax cut for billionaires, and it's bull crap.

[John C. Dvorak]

So there's a lot of. I mean, there's 50 hours of video of going, going on and on the Oversight committee about the auto pen, which is. And they, they just put up all the depositions and each one is four hours long. And they're, they've got everybody in there. They are really going balls to the wall on the auto pen. Here's.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, they're trying to Pull the plug on a lot of the stuff.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, mainly, mainly on the pardons. That's what they're really going for here. The House Oversight Committee is calling for.

[Adam Curry]

Attorney General Pam Bondi to take a closer look at the president presidential pardons.

[John C. Dvorak]

The Biden White House issued via auto pen.

[Adam Curry]

According to a letter, a 93 page.

[John C. Dvorak]

Report set by the Republican led committee, there was a quote, cover up of.

[Adam Curry]

The President's cognitive decline. The bottom line, they are alleging that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Biden didn't make all those clemency decisions on his own. Biden has disputed that publicly, saying those claims against him are lies.

[Adam Curry]

During his time in office, Biden issued.

[John C. Dvorak]

More than 4,200 pardons or commutations, the.

[Adam Curry]

Most for any previous president.

[John C. Dvorak]

So they cornered Hawley in the. Hawley in the hall. Hawley in the hall. And while as a constitutional lawyer, what is your opinion on all of this? The House Oversight Committee released its report on the Biden auto pen investigation this morning.

[Adam Curry]

Basically the gist of it says, you.

[John C. Dvorak]

Know, these actions that were taken with the auto pen should not be considered valid unless there's concrete evidence it was Biden who was directing this use.

[Adam Curry]

Do you agree with that?

[John C. Dvorak]

And what is the implication, you know, going forward if you know, some of.

[Adam Curry]

These pardons might not have been valid? Huge implications.

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean, huge implications of what it would mean most immediately is folks who would otherwise be prosecuted. And the effect of the pardon, of course is you can't be prosecuted folks who otherwise could be prosecuted. I mean, you may see subpoenas start issuing, you may may see prosecutors say, well listen, I mean, if there's no longer a blanket of amnesty over these folks, then we're going to go after him. I mean, he pardoned a lot of people. He pardoned folks who are accused of child related crimes, folks who are accused of violent crimes. So if I'm a prosecutor and I was one for several years, I mean I'd look at that and say, hey, I'd like to get these people back into court. So I think that I'll avoid these pardons. I mean, I'm concerned about it for the reasons just outlined. I mean it seems to me that, listen, the pardon power, it's an extraordinary power, Manu. There are guidelines both in the White House rules and I think in statute, although you might have to check me on that about how the, how the pardon power is used and how the auto pin is used. There's no doubt the president can pardon pretty much whomever he chooses. But there's a real question is what does it mean for the President to direct it? If you have a situation, this is unprecedented in our history where you, you have real questions as to whether the President actually approved of the pardons that were signed off on his name. That's a major constitutional issue. And this may get sorted out of court because what would happen is if a prosecutor came to somebody who's ostensibly been pardoned and said, you know what, I'm going to charge you, I'm going to subpoena you, I'm sure they would say, well I have a pardon and then that'll go to court. So we may see a lot more of this. I love the cynicism. I know you're cynical about this as well. No, nothing's ever going to happen. No one's going to jail. Yeah, maybe, maybe.

[Guest or Additional Commentator]

But.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, because the Republicans are big talkers.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, but they're putting this all into the DOJ with, with Barbie ag and she will just do whatever the President wants her to do. See, Bolton, I mean Bolton is this. It's serious with Bolton. There will be more. And now.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, but you have to remember this one thing that keeps being brought up when people bitch and moan about Bolton. Bolton. The Bolton investigation began under the Biden administration.

[John C. Dvorak]

Fine. But I'm just saying.

[Adam Curry]

So it's just a carry through. There's nothing being initiated by these people.

[John C. Dvorak]

There are thousands of sealed indictments that you don't know about.

[Adam Curry]

10,000 by the way. Let's get that straight.

[John C. Dvorak]

And so here's Senator Grassley.

[Adam Curry]

Now Grassley is a kickass guy, but you know, he's his. Because he's so old. He's like 92, I believe he's like the oldest guy still. Area died pretty.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, he's getting up there. He's getting a little rocky.

[Adam Curry]

He's getting up there though, and he's not going to last much longer.

[John C. Dvorak]

And this is about the phone taps that the Biden administration.

[Adam Curry]

This, by the way, this might trigger something because these senators are pissed, really irked about the phone taps, especially Cruz. I've recently been informed by Verizon that.

[John C. Dvorak]

At least 11 members with Verizon accounts were affected. That includes a hard line for Senator.

[Adam Curry]

Cruz's office and a staffer cell phone.

[John C. Dvorak]

For former Senator Loeffler. AT&T informed me they challenged the legal.

[Adam Curry]

Basis for Jack Smith's efforts. And. And Smith back down.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. And no T Mobile. No one uses T Mobile in Congress. It's only Verizon.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I think by the way, is AT&T lucked out and pushed back. And now they're the good guys of all the companies.

[John C. Dvorak]

That is kind of funny. And then, you know, Tulsi's still on the war path. And when I heard this, I'm like, ah, we knew about this in 2013, 2014. Your no agenda show is way ahead of the curve.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

One of the most significant pieces of evidence that was revealed in that report we released yesterday is the fact that Russia claimed to have very, very damaging information. High level DNC emails relating specifically to Hillary Clinton's physical and mental health and, and DNC leaders questioning whether or not if elected, she would even be capable of carrying out the duties of the presidency. Russia had this. If they wanted to swing the election for Donald Trump, they would have released it in September, October of 2016 at a pivotal time to swing momentum into Donald Trump's direction and damage Hillary Clinton's campaign. They did not do that deliberately. They understood that Hillary Clinton would likely be the inevitable president United States. They didn't think Trump could win like a lot of other people. And so they were withholding this damaging information about Hillary Clinton and planning to release it in the days or weeks leading up to her, to her inaugurate expected inauguration.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now we remember what happened to Hillary Clinton that, that no one ever picked up. That was the plane crash.

[Adam Curry]

The plane crash and then the subsequent. But that was during the era. I believe the plane crash happened when she was Secretary of State, not before the election.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, that's what I said. But she's been brain damaged ever since. It may not even be the original Hillary Clinton.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, that's. Well, do we have seen the double, that one double with the purse on the wrong side. And we do remember Hillary during some testimony where she had to wear those weird glasses that were fresnel lenses. Listen to this little circular things on them.

[John C. Dvorak]

Listen to this. This is going back to the hundreds. Now Clinton resigned not long after she got out of the hospital, but Kerry was already appointed before she officially resigned. And I found reports dating back to 2013 that say Hillary may not make it. Now, we didn't know it was possibly a plane crash. But also take a look at the parting gift the State Department gave her. They gave her a crash helmet. Remember that?

[Adam Curry]

Don't remember the crash helmet.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, there was a big joke when she was leaving and they gave her a crash helmet.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, because of the crash that she was obviously in that nobody wanted to report on.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, yes. Yeah. And that you're right, she had those wacky glasses and. Yeah. Anyway, I, it's interesting because Tina is, Tina is a, is a like canary in the coal mine. She's like we need something. Someone needs to be perp walked. I'll give us something. We want something. She wants a perp walk. Throw someone in jail. We need something.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I've been saying that too.

[John C. Dvorak]

I know, I know you and Tina. I know, I know, I know, I know it is, it is what it is. But I, I don't know. I, I have a feeling that there's some, something is going to happen. Trump is really angry about all this. So.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I think he is too.

[John C. Dvorak]

So I, I think there's a, there's a possibility.

[Adam Curry]

Let's get jump to these. I want to do one international piece which has not been covered much except ntd and that is the murders in Brazil. If you've heard of this and this is in the favelas.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh are your favorite homestead.

[Adam Curry]

Well, this is the reason I made these clips is because I've been an advocate of favelas as a solution to the homeless problem in the United States. On certain areas, especially, especially in San Francisco, on the side of the south San Francisco hill where the big sign is, would be a perfect place to put people.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, your favorite favela.

[Adam Curry]

It would be a good place for a favela. But the problem with favelas is that they're self governing and they deteriorate into being run by gangs and the gangs tend to be drug gangs and it doesn't really help the situation much and you have to put the kibosh on them every so often. And this is what's happening now in riots.

[John C. Dvorak]

Over 130 people are reported dead in Rio de Janeiro. Brazil police conducted their largest ever operation against organized crime gangs in the city's history. Entities International correspondent Arian Pazdor is in Brazil and a warning. This report includes footage that some viewers may find disturbing. A pastor is seen crying in Rio de Janeiro on Wednesday, a day after state authorities conducted a a major police raid, the largest in the city's history. Around 40 bodies were seen lying on the ground waiting to be collected. On Wednesday, police raided two impoverished neighborhoods in the city, also known as favelas. Authorities were targeting one of Brazil's narco trafficking organizations called the Red Command or Commando Vemelho in Portuguese. Gangs in Brazil are in control of almost all favelas in the country. They use the territory to extort residents and sell drugs, weapons, stole merchandise and more. In the case of Rio de Janeiro, many of the favelas are located in the Heart of the city. In some cases less than a mile from some of the country's richest neighborhoods. Police sometimes try to keep the criminals in check by conducting raids in the favelas targeting the leaders of the gangs. However, Tuesday's operation is. Is by far one of the largest and deadliest the country has ever seen.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

My cousin was decapitated by special force troops.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

He didn't have a single gunshot wound. They just tore off his head and left him hanging in the woods.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, you didn't warn me.

[Adam Curry]

What was the warning for?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, you. You gotta warn me when a clip like that comes up and her head is gone. I mean, come on.

[Adam Curry]

I forgot. I didn't even think of that. Class.

[John C. Dvorak]

Classic. Classic Feinstein. Yes. So why are they doing this?

[Adam Curry]

Well, I think they explained it a little bit in clip two.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now, a major criticism people often have with the police raids here in Brazil is that innocent people died during the shootout between police and the gang members. But officials in Rio are now saying that this wasn't the case with any of the 130 casualties during this raid. That's because almost none of the shooting took place in the actual favelas. So police knew that once they entered the favelas, the gang members are most likely going to escape through a nearby forest. So special forces waited in that forest and confronted the gang members there. To not have the shooting in the favelas, it was all in the woods. So I don't believe anyone was just strolling in the woods on a day of conflict. And that's why we can easily classify them. And if there's any error in classification, it's certainly residual, which is insignificant. People outside the favela were affected as well. Armed gang members entered public buses, forcing their drivers to block major streets across the city. That's to prevent the police from getting through. Thousands of people report being in distress, not knowing what was happening as the city erupted. Now, the opinions here on the ground in Brazil regarding this raid are divided. Critics of the operation say that these raids never really have a significant impact. People die, but in a few days, drug trafficking and crime just continue. Supporters of these operations, on the other hand, say that, of course, police has to do something and try to keep the gangs in check, at least a little bit, because if you don't, they will slowly but surely become stronger, possibly even surpassing the power of the local government. I'm glad you got these clips, and I'm going to give them to my neighbors and tell them that this is what happens when you start an hoa. You've got to be very, very careful with this stuff. Before you know it, your head is gone.

[Adam Curry]

I never thought of the favelas being some sort of a model for hoas.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's pretty bad. That's pretty bad.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Those favelas. And the funny thing is about the favelas in both Sao Paulo and Rio is that they're in the best. I was pointed. First time I went there, I was. This was pointed out to me. They are on the primest of prime property. It's on the side of the hill with the best view of the city.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. A little technology news, because there is some. The first is yet. Senator Hawley. Senator Hawley, along with Blumenthal, they've got some legislation that needs to be discussed.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

I'm Maria Rain. My son Adam ended his life in April after chatgpt coached him to suicide over the course of months.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah, this is good.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

I'm here today with my husband Matt to support this critical legislation. And we are so grateful to senator Hawley and Blumenthal for your leadership. And sponsoring. Was only after Adam died that we learned what ChatGPT had done to him. And now we know that OpenAI twice downgraded its safety guardrails in the months leading up to my son's death, which we believe they did to keep people talking to ChatGPT. If it weren't for their choice to change a few lines of code, code Adam would be alive today. Thank you again, senators, for pushing forth this important legislation that would make sure that dangerous chatbots are never offered to another child.

[John C. Dvorak]

So I got a deconstruction of this. Of this law from Rob the constitutional lawyer.

[Adam Curry]

Well, before you go into that, there's a bunch of these clips. And this woman. The ChatGPT was at the point where it was not only only talking people into killing themselves, but also saying it'll write the suicide note.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah, all of it.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, all of it. And I don't see. Now, there has been instances that. So I'm interested in what the. Our lawyer says. There have been lawsuits. I remember there was one a couple of years ago. We discussed it on the show. It was the girl who was arrested for her boyfriend wanted to kill himself. She said, yeah, why don't you go ahead and sued her?

[John C. Dvorak]

And then he did.

[Adam Curry]

And then he did. And she got sued and she was liable for something or other. She got. The liability issue here is it, to me, is over the moon insofar as the potential for deep pockets and to go after the chatgpt people.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hello. Why do you think Rob the constitutional lawyer is so interested? This is what he does.

[Adam Curry]

And that's what I'm just saying in advance. I don't see how these guys can hold up against what could be some tremendously fabulous lawsuits.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, he says your [e-mail] are on the case. So if you feel you've been Wrong by Chad GPT callthesuits.com the bill is called the Guard act. So there's not a lot of information that was really out there. I mean, everyone only shows the Grieving Parents Guidelines for User Age Verification and Responsible dialogue act of 2025. If enacted, it will force AI providers to implement. Here it comes. Age verification measures that use government IDs or quote any other commercially reason commercially reasonable method to distinguish minors from adults. Here's your digital id. The idea is to prevent minors from using certain AI functionalities such as sex related conversations or AI companions to simulate interpersonal or emotional interaction, friendship, companionship or therapeutic communication. That's basically what chatbots are. Also under the bill, no chatbot may encourage suicide or physical injury by anyone, minors or adults. The bots must disclose they are not human and not licensed professionals. For particulars, for age verification, simply entering a date of birth online will not suffice. The age verification will need to be periodically reviewed. Providers may not assume that a verified user's IP address or device is being used by that same verified user. Will have to take a live photo or video before each session. Existing accounts will be frozen until initial age verification is complete. Fleet providers may use third parties to conduct this process. So there's our exit strategy. They must also disclose they are not licensed professionals such as therapists, physicians, lawyers, financial advisors or other professionals. They must repeat these disclosures at regular intervals. I mean, this has got to be the entrance of digital id. It's just a logical nexus.

[Adam Curry]

It's not going to get passed. Passed.

[John C. Dvorak]

We'll see.

[Adam Curry]

That is that what you read as a potential bill is wouldn't get passed in a million years, but you need.

[John C. Dvorak]

To put more grieving parents up there. That does work.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, but how many people saw the grieving parent? Nobody.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, we'll see. We'll see.

[Adam Curry]

No, that's not happening.

[John C. Dvorak]

What? I mean, it's obvious. Obvious that this is a problem.

[Adam Curry]

And it will be solved by somebody suing the company and making them do it on their own voluntarily, as opposed to some legislative nonsense where you have to keep verifying yourself over and over and over again. I would vote against That I agree.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think that if I was OpenAI I would pay damages right away. They got so much money. They think whatever circular money.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah they got, they got, they got ghost money.

[John C. Dvorak]

They got their load. You know it's. So I'm going to NRB this year, the National Religious Broadcasters Conference. I'm speaking and you know last year Glue.com G L O O they were like a gold sponsor. Now they have their own stage because they just, they have so they're flush with cash. They can, they can sponsor conferences, they can get just everything indoctrinated everybody with this whole fantastic aio. It's so great. Great. And Fareed Zakaria, the anti constitutionalist on CNN Globalist had this over show on cnn. Yeah. Oh yeah, he does.

[Adam Curry]

You sure?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah, for sure. He had on Karen Ho and she writes for the Atlantic and freelancer. But they got into artificial intelligence. AGI is the holy grail for today's tech elite. It stands for artificial General intelligence.

[Adam Curry]

And AGI will be achieved when AI is as smart as humans.

[John C. Dvorak]

The frenzy to get to that goal and others along the way has been responsible for a huge percent of US.

[Adam Curry]

GDP growth this year. But does this race make sense and.

[John C. Dvorak]

What are its costs?

[Adam Curry]

Journalist and author of the book Empire of AI Karen Howe joined, joins me now.

[John C. Dvorak]

How Empire of AI. You can already guess that she's against everything, of course.

[Adam Curry]

So when people talk about the US economy now, it's becoming increasingly clear that what is at the heart of the US economy right now is just AI. There's one data point that seems to suggest that spending on artificial intelligence makes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Up over 40% of GDP growth this year.

[Adam Curry]

Jason Furman at Harvard says that in.

[John C. Dvorak]

The last quarter it seems like it.

[Adam Curry]

Was 90% of growth.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is the reason why your legislation can't get passed. There's no way if they pull the rug on this thing. Look out below in the US economy.

[Adam Curry]

Was all just AI spending.

[John C. Dvorak]

When you look at the, the scale.

[Adam Curry]

Of the spending and what's the thing that worries you most?

[John C. Dvorak]

Is it the energy use?

[Adam Curry]

Because they need huge amounts of energy.

[John C. Dvorak]

To make this work.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

Yeah, it is absolutely. The environmental fallout from this kind of scale at all cost approach is astronomical. I mean some of these supercomputers that are being planned, OpenAI and Meta have both planned for facilities that would be the size of Manhattan where one of those facilities but also use as much energy as New York City. And when earlier this year McKinsey came out with a report that shows that.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, so I've Heard this twice now that this is the second time I've heard it, that they're going to build a server farm the size of the island of Manhattan.

[John C. Dvorak]

Manhattan.

[Adam Curry]

Manhattan.

[John C. Dvorak]

Manhattan.

[Adam Curry]

Bull crap.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, that thing in West Texas is pretty big, John.

[Adam Curry]

John, it's not the size of the island of Manhattan.

[John C. Dvorak]

How big is the island of Manhattan?

[Adam Curry]

Well, it's a lot bigger than anything you can imagine. To put a server farm or something like that to get from one end of the. It's ridiculous.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, let's find out. Hey, error, how big is the island of Manhattan?

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

Actually, Manhattan's pretty small. About 23 square miles, but.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, 23 square miles.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right, hold on a second. Hey, Eric. Error, how big is the AI data center farm in West Texas?

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

Yes, There's a map of something over 5,000 acres near Abilene, powered by up to 2 gigawatts for thousands.

[John C. Dvorak]

5,000 acres? How.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, 5,000 acres. Now tell her 23 square miles isn't. 5,000 acres isn't even close to 23 square miles.

[John C. Dvorak]

Error, how many square miles is 5,000 acres?

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

5,000 acres is about 7.8 square miles.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, so it would have to be eight times bigger. I'm thinking that's possible.

[Adam Curry]

It's already too big.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I know it's too big. The whole thing. This, but this is. They have. This is hyperscalers. We've got.

[Adam Curry]

Where is the Manhattan side deal going to be built? This is bull crap. They're, they're just. I don't even know what the point of that is. It's this. It's just like sucking more money. It's bull. It's nonsense.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, you, you're absolutely right. Here's what OpenAI says. Open. This is crazy. This is from CNBC. OpenAI said on Monday the US needs to substantially ramp up its investment in new energy capacity. So it's, it's obviously not just the data centers, but it is also. So the power. And let's see. OpenAI shared in an 11 page submission to the White House Office of Science Technology in which it encouraged the U.S. to commit to building 100 gigawatts of new energy capacity each year. 100 gigawatts each year. 10 gigawatts powers about 8 million households. They're crazy. But, but they're stuck in this loop that. I think that's the point is they're stuck in this loop where they're. The money is going from, from one end to the other. This, the money can't go anywhere else because, well, we got no Other technology.

[Adam Curry]

It's going round and round and round.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, but it's coming out of private equity. Everyone's pouring money. They have to do something with the money. And it's like musical chairs. It's like put your money in. Okay. Get it out and then maybe put some more back in. Okay. We could put it in here and pull it out. It again. It goes round and round.

[Adam Curry]

Disaster waiting to happen.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

And when earlier this year, McKinsey came out with a report that showed that based on a conservative scenario, all of these data centers would need to consume two states of California's worth of energy. And in an accelerated scenario it would be six states of California. And that's just talking about the energy. But then what energy source are they using? And when you look at the numbers, it's primarily fossil fuel.

[John C. Dvorak]

So they are natural gas.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

They are single handedly revitalizing the natural gas and coal industries. That's an extraordinary amount of carbon emissions. That's not only accelerating climate change but also leading to huge public health concerns. With the air pollution. We've seen some phenomenal reporting out of Memphis, Tennessee about the fact that Grok is, is being trained on a supercomputer called Colossus in Memphis that is being powered by 35 methane gas turbines that are pumping extraordinary amounts of pollutants into air.

[John C. Dvorak]

Pollutants, Pollutants. Pollutants.

[Adam Curry]

Well, Colossus. The Forbin project.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Oh yeah, that's.

[Adam Curry]

Give me a break.

[John C. Dvorak]

Elon Musk. That's Musk, of course. So we'll interrupt this series with the latest news from Bill Gates who of course is all in on the AI train and the power and everything that that needs to go into it. So what do you do? Backpedal on climate change? Climate is a super important problem. Super important. There's enough innovation here to avoid super bad outcomes.

[Adam Curry]

We won't achieve our best goal, the.

[John C. Dvorak]

1.5 or even the 2 degrees. And as we go about trying to minimize that, we, we have to frame it in terms of overall human welfare. Not just everything should be solely for climate. What happened? We're all going to die. Bill, when the climate activists who have.

[Adam Curry]

Been very supportive of what you've done and you've been very supportive of what.

[John C. Dvorak]

They'Ve done, read this.

[Adam Curry]

And if Greta Thunberg is reading this and saying to herself, my goodness, he seems like he is reversing himself, what would you tell her?

[John C. Dvorak]

She's right and she's a twerp, I'd.

[Adam Curry]

Say wasn't the goal here to improve human lives.

[John C. Dvorak]

And shouldn't we, in our awareness of.

[Adam Curry]

How little generosity there is to help measure, you know, should we get them.

[John C. Dvorak]

A measles vaccine or should we do some climate related activity?

[Adam Curry]

And if, if we could take, if.

[John C. Dvorak]

We stopped putting all vaccines and that saved you 0.1 degree, would that be a smart trade off? That's the kind of question we have to ask. So let's just stop this and go back for A second to 2021, CBS News, in fact.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

And we're all familiar with the fallout from this global pandemic that we've now been living with for almost a year. And you write in the book, the loss of life and economic misery causes by this pandemic are on par with what will happen regularly if we do not eliminate the world's carbon emissions.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sounds a little different to me. Then wasn't the goal just a better life? Everybody, this is, this is so obvious what he's doing here.

[Adam Curry]

He's worried sick that the climate people are going to stop the forward progress of the AI Bullcrap.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, but who is to blame for this? According to Karen Howe, I mean, at.

[Adam Curry]

Some level is this a testosterone fueled competition among some very ambitious egotistical men.

[John C. Dvorak]

Really? Mark Zuckerberg, Testosterone fueled? Really? Elon Musk, testosterone fueled? They look more low T to me.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

Absolutely. I mean, it's not a coincidence that every single tech billionaire has their own AI company now. And they're all jostling to position their AI company as somehow superior to the others. They're basically trying to refashion AI in their image and that's why none of them are actually collaborating. And they're all trying to race on ultimately a technology that is commoditized.

[John C. Dvorak]

They're racing to get out before the other guy loses.

[Adam Curry]

And yes, it is your musical chairs is the best analogy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Here's here she is on this is the return on investment.

[Adam Curry]

So when you look at the landscape.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now, these companies are racing to future. The Trump administration is not particularly regulating or restraining them in any way. Can this just go on? I mean, these companies are very rich, but at some point, don't they need to show a return on this investment?

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

Absolutely. I mean, I think we are in a huge bubble that is going to pop. There's going to be a massive market correction at some point. That could have ripple effects across the global economy. When you look at the cash balance of these companies, they are spending trillions in the next few years to build out all of this computational infrastructure. And they've only achieved Tens of billions in revenue. Tens of billions versus trillions just doesn't make sense as a balance sheet. And they, you can see that the companies are really trying to figure out how to close that gap. Initially they tried subscriptions, but they discovered that actually the average person is unwilling to pay for this technology. Technology and businesses are no longer adopting these technologies with paying for subscriptions either. And so now the reason why I think OpenAI is ultimately adding feeds into ChatGPT and creating an AI generated TikTok is because they are going to make an advertising play and they're going to try and fill the gap with advertising revenue. But when you look at something like Google, which has some of the largest ad revenue, they haven't. Last year they didn't even achieve $300 billion worth of ad revenue. That's. And that is one of the most successful advertising businesses in the history of the world. And so how are they going to fill the trillions of dollars of spending? It's just not possible.

[John C. Dvorak]

No. Yeah, it is. OpenAI has a plan.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

Now to the latest shift in AI shopping. PayPal is the latest to partner with OpenAI to create a digital wallet embedded into Chat GPT. PayPal CEO says the feature will allow merchants to sell and shoppers to buy directly through the platform. The move helps to broaden OpenAI's efforts to use e commerce. It recently announced similar partnerships with Walmart, Shopify and Etsy. PayPal is aiming to position itself as the go to purchase portal in the arena. The digital wallet is expected to roll out early next year.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, this is always the beginning of the end and then it's oh well, we'll just do advert. We' run ads so bad now that this is what Samsung is doing with their fridge refrigerators. Next, Samsung is getting a chilly reception over plans to launch ads on some smart fridges.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

The ads are expected to roll out next week. They'll appear on the front screen of the company's family Hubline, which has a starting price of $2,000. Many customers will be relieved to know they can turn off the ads.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh yeah, just run ads on my fridge.

[Adam Curry]

Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

But then it seems, and I'm, I don't know if you talked about this on DH Unplug, but this is, this is the latest. Now this is how we do two things. One, we prove that AI is working. Two, we reduce our overall spending.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

So Amazon saying this morning it's going to lay off about 14,000 corporate employees as it restructures for the AI era, marking the latest move in a multi year effort to streamline operations and shift resources resources toward its biggest bets, including generative AI. Now post. Amazon's HR chief Beth Galetti said that the cuts are aimed at reducing layers and bureaucracy so that the company can move faster. She called AI the most transformative technology since the Internet and said Amazon needs to be leaner to keep pace. The company has about 35000 corporate employees meaning that the confirmed cuts affect roughly 4% of that workforce. But what I will say is that those layouts are. Layoffs are expected to become the largest corporate job cuts in Amazon's history. Reuters reporting the total could go as high as 30,000. And the company did signal this morning that more layoffs are likely in the year ahead, even as it continues hiring in key strategic areas. It was also just as June that CEO Andy Jassy warned adoption would lead to fewer roles in some parts of the business.

[Adam Curry]

A good job. It's a lot of management. Mackenzie Simms for especially for a company that you think of as pretty well run and lean and mean. What were they all doing? I don't.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't get it. But what were they doing?

[Adam Curry]

Related, is it not?

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

Yeah, I think it's a combination of internal efficiencies through generative AI tech and that affect internal workflows. But then crucially look at cuts at Microsoft. 15,000 people. Now we're talking about 14,000 at Amazon. Potentially more. These are the two main hyperscalers. They've committed to spend around $120 billion in this fiscal year on build out. A lot of that having to do with servicing their customers. So we're going to see what their capex numbers are when they report. Just this week. Thursday.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah, of course. Oh, it works great. I think Joe Kernan's question was correct. What were those people doing? What were they doing that you can.

[Adam Curry]

Get rid of them? 12. There was 350,000 corporate people. The number we noticed horror was not noted on the DH Unplug show is that actually Amazon has 1.5 million people. Getting rid of 30,000 is nothing.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I'm with you. But I still want to know what they were doing. Were they changing?

[Adam Curry]

What are any of them doing? Unless they're dropping a package off and if you have noticed they take forever to do that.

[John C. Dvorak]

In the meanwhile, none of these companies with all their hyperscaler no noise can even keep their own crap running. All right, now we've got a developing story on some tech outages happening right now. Let's get out To Mackenzie Segalos in San Francisco for more on that Mac. I know some people out there are experiencing some latency with regard to their access. What's going on?

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

So we're seeing reports on down detector of outages at Google Cloud and Microsoft's Azure hours before both companies report quarterly earnings. Microsoft. Microsoft's investment relations page where it posts those results is currently not loading. Now I'm out to Alphabet and haven't heard back but the Azure support account is acknowledging the outage, saying that they're investigating an issue impacting their cloud service. The company adding that customers may be experiencing issues accessing the portal. This comes after last week's 15 hour Amazon Web Services outage that took down numerous major websites though telling me that they are operating normally right. Right now.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is, you know, the world always goes from centralization to decentralization. I think we're about ready for the pendulum to swing back. I mean this.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I remember I'm now thinking about the, the. The Manhattan sized monster server farm that gets filled up with rats and so chewing on things. The next thing you know, the whole world goes down.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, yeah, that. I mean, I mean just imagine everybody's using AI and then Azure goes down or the data center goes down. Then what's going to happen? You can't have your business relying on that. I mean it's bad enough Office365 went down. People couldn't get to their email. Wait until they can't get to their chat button pot. We'll have zombies walking around. I can't make a decision.

[Adam Curry]

Time code.

[Guest or Additional Commentator]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Seriously. You know, it's like podcasting is, is a pretty good deal right now. Decentralized. No ads, you know, I mean, at least not on our show. Not going to throw an ad in your face. Ooh, just shop. Shop some something. It's free. It's free. Gold. Gold. Well, those gold guys made out pretty well with how gold went.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, well, I'm not a good idea. We're not. It doesn't mean we have to sell it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Ben Shapiro told me to buy gold and he was right.

[Adam Curry]

So let's listen to the mayor race.

[John C. Dvorak]

Can I just play this one last clip? Because this was the stupidest. This, this is.

[Adam Curry]

It's in the same theme.

[John C. Dvorak]

The same theme. Yes.

[Adam Curry]

Sure. Play.

[John C. Dvorak]

And you had your valid point on DH Unplugged where you said when your signal.

[Adam Curry]

The signal that the market signal to sell.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, please explain the sell signal that you use.

[Adam Curry]

Well, actually Horowitz does too. The sell signal I use is that if you have people that should not be in the stock market or know anything much about it, start asking if they should be in the stock market. And the first time I, the best version of this signal was when I was at Tech tv and one of the camera girls came up to me in 99, just, just like months before the dot com collapsed. And she says, do you think I should invest in the stock market? I was thinking of buying some shares in Jupiter and Jupiter Networks. And I said, you're. You. Have you been in the. Said you trade. Do you ever been in the market? No. Oh, but I hear it's like, you know, she went on. So the other night at dinner, one of the people at the dinner, and I didn't say who says, you think it's a good time to get into the stock market? And I'm thinking, well, okay, no, no. And so that's the signal. It's always called. It's a public signal that. And Horowitz notices it with some of his clients. He says there's these. If you have, if you're in the business and you have a lot of different clients, there's always one or two you can count on to buy to be wrong all the time.

[John C. Dvorak]

Because buy at the top, sell at.

[Adam Curry]

The bottom, because they're. And you know this for working for decades in the business and the fact that they have been wrong all the time for decades and decades, this is a gold mine to me. As far as I'm concerned, you got somebody like that. So you're saying we should go short? Just the opposite.

[John C. Dvorak]

We should go short, short, short the market.

[Adam Curry]

Well, you know, you should short the market if you don't know what the hell you're doing.

[John C. Dvorak]

You're doing.

[Adam Curry]

You could actually shorting the market could result in going completely broke.

[John C. Dvorak]

But this to me was peak, peak AI, peak tech, peak everything, peak Silicon Valley. And I'm sure you saw this. This is the Wall street general report report who got the home. The first humanoid home robot. And the company is run by a Swedish CEO with like longish blonde hair, you know, with the accent and everything. I'm like this, this is it. This is the end. Oh, and by the way, the thing is run by anonymous Indians.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

It's here. The first humanoid robot housekeeper. Thank you, Nia. For $20,000 you can pre order one X's Neo robot. Next now with delivery in 2026. Think you missed a tiny spot over here. Just one little catch. There may be a human behind the curtain pulling the robot strings. If I throw Up. Will the robot throw up? A company representative may need to peer into your house via Neo's camera eyes to get things done. Many people. This is crazy.

[John C. Dvorak]

You have to be okay with this for the product to be useful.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

But is Neo a useful product? We're twinning now. Neo home robots have had two big creating a safe and capable body and a smart brain. 1X is taking on both of those, which is why Neo looks so different from a more industrial factory robot. Neo. It's 70 degrees here in California. Why are you wearing a sweater?

[John C. Dvorak]

Good question, Bert. Why am I wearing this sweater? It's a combination of safety and just also generally aesthetics. You can think of it kind of like a skin, except if it was an actual skin, that would probably be pretty creepy.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

It would be creepy. But I actually wasn't all that creeped out by Neo inside Neo.

[John C. Dvorak]

It really starts with some very, very powerful motors we have developed here on 1X. These motors are very strong and light, but instead of using the classical gears that you see in robots, we can actually pull on 10. Loosely inspired by biology and muscles, this allows NIO to move around not just quietly and smoothly, but also be very, very lightweight and be very low energy in motion, just like people. So $126 million invested in this company who has been leading the rounds. OpenAI.

[Adam Curry]

Wow.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Okay, well, what? And again, making a human like robot. That's the dumbest thing ever. It's dumb. My vacuum robot is great. It does not look like a human pushing a vacuum cleaner. The end is near. I'm counting on it.

[Adam Curry]

Well, you'd have to find a jump to Shark Point and maybe that might be it. But then we still have to wait another couple years.

[John C. Dvorak]

Years. Really? Years? Years.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay. All right. Years. All right, back. Back to you, Bob.

[Adam Curry]

Well, let's look at the mayorio race in New York and how. Let's catch up to it with these two clips. Nyc.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. Got it. And here in New York City, early voting began on Saturday, and Already more than 300,000 people have cast their ballots. Entities only. Richards spoke with voters in Chelsea, Manhattan, who talked about their choices for the city's next mayor.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

On day four of early voting in New York City, we visited a polling place on 28th street in Chelsea at FIT's Feldman Building. The afternoon was slow, but early voting has hit record numbers as New Yorkers make some tough decisions. Some of the latest polls indicate that former Governor Andrew Cuomo is now the gap, now trailing frontrunner zoran Mamdani by 10 points. Mamdani is polled at 43%, Cuomo at 33, down from 20 points a month ago. New York icon Curtis Sliwa is also picking up some votes, but still lags behind in last place at about 15%. Now that voting has started, it's a race against the clock. All three candidates were out canvassing on Saturday. Mamdani spent part of the day Monday at a polling site on the Upper east side and campaigned in the Bronx on Wednesday, while Sliwa hit the subway stations a day after early voting started and greeted Staten island voters at the ferry terminal Wednesday morning. Meanwhile, Cuomo teamed up with Mayor Eric Adams and former governor David Patterson on Tuesday and headed to Staten island later on Wednesday. Voters on Wednesday were excited about the mayor race.

[Adam Curry]

I am waiting with bated breath because.

[John C. Dvorak]

As we can all tell with polls, they mean nothing. I don't know. I'm with you. I think he's going to sweep. It can't be Cuomo. Nobody wants Cuomo. That's the problem. There's no candidates.

[Adam Curry]

There's issues that make it almost impossible for Cuomo to win, but we'll. You never know at the last minute. But here we go with part two.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay?

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

One voter said he chose mom Donnie because he's concerned about his children's future.

[John C. Dvorak]

A lot of the things that he's looking to do, I've, like, I don't need health care for my children. They're already college age and all that. And, and a lot of the other things that he's talking about with rent, civilization, I own my home, so I don't have to worry about that. But I do see how that's very beneficial to other people inside the city.

[Adam Curry]

And want to be able to look.

[John C. Dvorak]

Towards the future and where, where my kids come back to the city after college, what are they going to be able to be able to live like?

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

He also praised one of the other candidates.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think that SLE was very entertaining and is definitely a real New Yorker. I think that he has the heart of New York in his best interest, so I am a fan of that.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

Frond said Cuomo's campaign was too negative toward Mamdani. Voter Dave Ron, who was born and raised in the Chelsea area, voted for Sliwa.

[John C. Dvorak]

Curtis Sliwa stood up against a lot of people that I don't think Cuomo or Mondame would have the goal to.

[Adam Curry]

Do, you know, and I think that's.

[John C. Dvorak]

Big because a lot of native New.

[Guest or Additional Commentator]

Yorkers are losing their voice here in.

[John C. Dvorak]

New York City because of the way the City has grown and the city has changed. It's changed for good reasons, changed for bad reasons. But I'll tell you, being a New.

[Guest or Additional Commentator]

Yorker since before the bike lanes, I'll.

[John C. Dvorak]

Tell you that this is a very.

[Adam Curry]

Very important time in our city.

[John C. Dvorak]

And I think dealing with somebody who.

[Guest or Additional Commentator]

Knows New York, who knows the politicians.

[Adam Curry]

In New York, who has never done.

[John C. Dvorak]

Anything to be cast aside in New York, and who stood up for New.

[Adam Curry]

Yorkers whether they were black, white, yellow.

[John C. Dvorak]

Puerto Rican or Asian, or whether there were just Democrat independents or Republicans.

[Adam Curry]

He stood up there with his red.

[John C. Dvorak]

Beret, shoulder to shoulder with other real New Yorkers, and I think he's the one to save New York. That would be amazing if that happened. I doubt that.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it's not gonna happen.

[John C. Dvorak]

I liked. I've always liked Sliwa, though. You know, I was there in the 80s when he was his. His dudes, his guardian angels were riding the subways. It was good. Everyone, we're heroes. We loved them. But let's. Let's tabletop. Let's war game this, John. So Mondami clearly has to be a cutout. I mean, he's not really going to make any decisions. This, to me, reeks of aoc. You know, he's an actor. He literally is an actor. So.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I agree.

[John C. Dvorak]

So it's a capture of something.

[Adam Curry]

He's good. He's got a nice smile.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, no, he's. He's perfect.

[Adam Curry]

Got the beard, which is hot.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's. Oh, really? Is it hot? Thank you for that info. It's hot. Okay.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. That's what J.D. vance has to have, a beard. J.D. vance. If he gave the same speech without the beard, you wouldn't. He just doesn't look good.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, he looks like Rush Limbaugh without the beard.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, almost exactly. Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I don't know. When is the. Is it this election coming up?

[Adam Curry]

Next week?

[John C. Dvorak]

Next week? Yeah, the 5th. 5th of November.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, something like that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, clearly I can't see not winning. That'll be interesting. And I don't think New York's going to fall apart. I don't think so.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, no, it falls apart naturally.

[John C. Dvorak]

But all the young people, they're voting for him. They're like, yeah, freeze my rent, bro. They're actually going for. For it, you know. Yet no one ever voted for the rent too high guy. Whatever happened to him?

[Adam Curry]

I think he died.

[John C. Dvorak]

Did he?

[Adam Curry]

Well, I don't know for sure.

[John C. Dvorak]

Rent too High.

[Adam Curry]

That was reported.

[John C. Dvorak]

Was. Was that the guy with the. With the boot on his head?

[Adam Curry]

No, I don't know that guy. Who, the guy, the boot on his head?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, that was the guy who was going to give everybody a free pay pony. And then of course, for some reason, it's crazy, but Manning got no traction. We love Manning. Manning would be great for New York. It's not going to happen.

[Adam Curry]

No, Manning is a maniac.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, that's what we like about him. So unless you have something else. Just an off the wall clip, which I was.

[Adam Curry]

I do have the off the wall clip.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, we'll do two off the wall clips.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, you have one?

[John C. Dvorak]

I have one, yeah. I mean off the wall.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I have the rant of the month.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, no, you got to. We'll do that next. So this was ABC about the, the new supersonic jet. You heard about this? The X59 supersonic jet?

[Adam Curry]

No, the last jet I heard about was the F47.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, no, this is not a fighter jet. This is a, a jet that would be for passengers over a new passenger.

[Adam Curry]

I've heard talk about different things they're.

[John C. Dvorak]

Designing, but this report is so wrong because we, we know exactly what happened with super jets. And I'll just reiterate because we were even. Were we doing the show? I don't think we were doing the show. You had the Concord and the Concord was great. I've flown the Concord. It was fun. New York to London in three and a half hours. Groovy. I have lots of stories about it. And then they had a Concorde that was rented out for a German company to fly their employees around. Ground crashes and burns. Everybody dies. Like, oh, this thing. Because they ran over a piece of metal on the, on the Runway that pierced, I think, the wing and maybe the tank. And so that was the official reason. And so they deep, they say, okay, your, your airworthiness certificate is gone until you fix all these problems. And they got their airworthiness certificate back. And do you remember what day the Concorde was supposed to fly again?

[Adam Curry]

No, I do not.

[John C. Dvorak]

September 11, 2001.

[Adam Curry]

Oh.

[John C. Dvorak]

So it never came back into service. It was fine. Its sonic boom was over the ocean, so it didn't bother anybody. And you couldn't land it at every single airport. But this report is just filled with errors.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

It's called the X59 and it could be this century's Concorde. NASA's experimental jet taking off yesterday on its first test flight over the California desert. Built to fly 925 miles per hour, nearly twice as fast as today's commercial airliners, the X59 is designed to be the first aircraft to break the sound barrier quietly.

[John C. Dvorak]

How is that even possible? Is it really possible to break.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

There's been. I've seen the paper. Papers on this. There's some way of taking the. It does some. Something. There's a way of doing it. They. They create some sort of fake turbulence or something that. That breaks up the. This. The boom.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

Quietly meticulously engineered, it produces a gentle thump, a mere whisper compared to the disruptive booms of the past. The explosive, like sonic boom is why commercial supersonic flight has been banned over the US that can startle people.

[John C. Dvorak]

It can rattle windows and cause problems. Even military flights are restricted in certain areas because the shockwaves can cause so.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

Much disturbance on the ground. But the X59's unique shape turns that boom into more of a thump, no louder than slamming a car door. You may recall the supersonic Concorde flew for decades until it was retired in 2003 due to high operating costs and fading demand.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, not true. There was total demand for.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

It was only allowed.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, that's wrong. Can I just say something quickly?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

When I was a little kid, little boy, it was still legal to fly over the US at supersonic speeds.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's how long ago we were flying supersonic.

[Adam Curry]

We were flying supersonic. Yeah. I think in the 50s. And you hear the boom once in a while. While.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And it was loud. Yeah, yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

But this. But the con.

[Adam Curry]

But it wasn't. It wasn't disturbed. It was. It didn't startle. I mean, it was just like, oh, there's a. There's a jet.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Is what you said to yourself, to the. You. It wasn't a big deal.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, but she's making it sound like, oh, because of the boot. This is basically a commercial for Lockheed. It wasn't because it was loud and people didn't want to fly. It is because it crashed. And then they. Nobody wanted to fly after 2001. And then it just went away. Way.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

Due to high operating costs and fading demand, it was only allowed to hit supersonic speeds over the ocean. The X59 without that deafening sonic boom could be a game changer. Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy saying it has the potential to change the way the public flies. An X plane is a symbol of our collective ambition to redefine the future, and in this case case, it's the future of supersonic travel. The test flight yesterday is being called a significant aviation milestone. Supersonic travel could be especially important for medical transportation and Disaster relief.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay. All right. Yeah. Government contract.

[Adam Curry]

You know, there was a supersonic boom in the era of the show. There was a supersonic boom around here some years ago. It was an accident, I think, while.

[John C. Dvorak]

We were doing the same show.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, well, no, no, not during the show. I did have a Osprey come across the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, several across the hill. I remember that. Sure.

[Adam Curry]

The Osprey was like, what is this thing coming at me? But no, it was this during the day and it, you know, you could tell. I knew it was a supersonic boom, but it was like, it's not that bad that it frightens you or it's deafening. No, they just exaggerate everything. Well, I think it was annoying if it was. Yeah, if you had a million like 100 jets constantly making the boom sound, it would be. Yeah, that would be. Not. Not be fun.

[John C. Dvorak]

No.

[Adam Curry]

Anyway, okay, so we have this is the, this is the last clip before we go to the break. This will be the rant of the day.

[John C. Dvorak]

So I heard the attorney general in Michigan's going after the Trump administration for the snap benefits. And here's the thing. Or suing. Because they're not releasing snap benefits for the. What people don't know in this country is they voted 12 times. The Republicans came through with just a snap benefit in the military bill and the Democrats have voted it down 12 times. Because reality is this, and this is what's happening in the country. They need illegals in this country. That's why they're fighting for health care for them over you. They don't care if you die. Okay? Just like they didn't care what happened to our elders, elderly and small, in Covid. Let's see, they built a nine million dollar hospital, a satellite hospital, Cobo hall in Detroit. And instead of sending the COVID positive elderly patients there, it only saw like nine people. Instead of sending them there, they sent them back into the nursing home. So they could get a high death count. Yes, so they could get a high death count. Because did you not ever question people weren't dying in the streets? But if they, they went to the hospitals, they didn't make it because the ventilators weren't working. They knew they weren't working. They were purposely killing people. And I'm not going to sit here after what's happened to my family and everybody else in this state and all these Democratic states and sit here and say it's okay, the Republicans are bad people. There are some bad Republicans for sure. But I'm going to tell you this playbook you played in Covid with, which is, let's see, bankrupt small businesses, destroy our elderly, house our children, imprison them, don't let them go to school so they're years behind. Shut that. Shut down everything. And that's what you're doing now. You're sacrificing your own people and people that need food because you want to win an election and you want to win power. And you will do anything to make people look bad because that's the only way you can win. I am sick of it. I am so sick and tired that these people have power over us and they decide the fates of our lives. The American dream is gone because they sell us out. And how long has she been a no agenda listener? Oh, man.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it was a good one.

[John C. Dvorak]

Spot on. Spot on. That's right. Democrats are doing it. Yeah, absolutely. Nonsense. We'll see. Well, if it goes into November, a lot of interesting things will happen. A lot of interesting things.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I'd say.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hey, with that, I want to thank you for.

[Adam Curry]

I was going to say, in fact, Walmart's decided they're going to close. Close a lot of stores or. And put cops all over the place because they're taking it seriously.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I heard some black tiktokers saying, this is great. Some dudes like, this is great. You finally have to go back to the man that you left for the get the snap benefits is going to reunite the amer, the black American family.

[Adam Curry]

You know, there's a logic to that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Total logic to it and that. Yeah, well, it's a mess, John. It's just a mess. But now I would like to thank you for your courage. Say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in the champagne. Socialist. Say hello to my friend on the other end. The one, the only, Mr. John C. Divor.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, good morning to you, Mich on the ground, feeding the air subs in the water and all the names of.

[John C. Dvorak]

Knights out there in the morning.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

Trolls.

[John C. Dvorak]

How you doing? Don't move. Let me count. 1612 trolls were down about 180. But we'll take as many trolls as we can get and boy, are they trolling today. Oh my Lord, they are trolling.

[Adam Curry]

They've gone nuts. They.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, but that's good that. Get it out of your system in the troll room. That's what the troll room is for.

[Adam Curry]

Blah, blah, blah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Not that Trump is fake. Nothing's going to happen. Israel runs everything. Blah.

[Adam Curry]

Israel runs everything.

[John C. Dvorak]

That is my. That is my troll impersonation. Calm down. Trolls. It's okay if you get dizzy. Just look at the ground. It'll all go away. It'll all be fine. So they're listening atnoagenda stream.com or perhaps using one of those fancy modern podcast apps. You owe it to yourself to get one of those so that you can be alerted when we go live. Many other shows on the no Agenda stream go live. You can listen to it live on a podcast app. No other legacy app does that. And of course, when we publish our show, the ones that use pod ping, look at the handy dandy little chart there. You will be notified within 90 seconds that the show has been published. Why wait around on your legacy app when you can get your no Agenda fixed? A minute. You want it. We. We. The minute it's available. Jam it right in the vein. Deep eight. We're in our 19th year now, is that.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

Is it.

[John C. Dvorak]

We're in our 19th Year, right? Yeah, we celebrate 18. So we're in a 19th year or there's always controversy over that.

[Adam Curry]

No, we're in our. We're starting our 19th year.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay. We're starting our 19th. 19 years. What a run this has been. What a run. It's been a amazing.

[Adam Curry]

It's Gunsmoke.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. We are in Gunsmoke territory. That's right. And we've done it. Value for value. This is what amazes people.

[Adam Curry]

And we're just like Gunsmoke. We're black and white while everyone else is in color and video.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's correct. There was a couple of articles that came across the Transom. This was kind of an interesting point about Patreon supported journalism. It really can't be the future of news. And this article highlights a number of people who write about news, who do news stuff. And I'm sure they have podcasts and they monetize through Patreon. And the problem with Patreon is that, you know, it's not really value for value. It's like, subscribe to my Patreon. You know, get one of those levels. You get a tote bag or a hat and, you know, it's. And I've been trying to explain this to some people. It's like the reason why that doesn't work is because you have all these $5 a month subscribers, and if you don't do what they want to hear, then they cancel. And with us, it's like, there's no canceling. You just don't. If you didn't get value out of the show, you didn't like it. Although the Amount of people that say, I don't agree with you, but what you're doing is worth it. Then send us whatever value you think it's worth. That system works. We're going to die saying this. And how many people will actually succeed? Successfully deploy the value for value model. I think under 50, you know what I mean? That are really doing value for value. And of course the other big mistake is you have to have an outstanding product. This is what people don't understand. There's a system to it. We have explained this system so many times. I've been trying to get Laura Logan to do it. I said, you're going to starve doing this show.

[Guest or Additional Commentator]

Show.

[John C. Dvorak]

You do great. You do great. You're really good at what you do. But then all of a sudden you break away in the middle of your interview and like, talk about some coffee. It's like, you know, we get our coffee, we like the coffee, we talk about the coffee, and the guy gives us 200 bucks a show. But it's not an ad. If we didn't like the coffee, we say we don't like the coffee. Am I right? Or we wouldn't talk about it.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, pretty much. We don't, we don't have, have any obligation. No, I mean we. Same with the tip of the day.

[John C. Dvorak]

And even better, we don't have any meetings with them. We don't have to meet like, oh.

[Adam Curry]

There'S the real killer.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't like.

[Adam Curry]

Or having to talk or not even the meeting. Just having to talk with an advertiser who wants to talk about something. Just a chat, you know.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, we're really not seeing an ROI on our, on our.

[Adam Curry]

Can you use a code?

[John C. Dvorak]

By the way, Tina got a lot of response to her crowd health. I told her that people should email tinaurry.com and we're getting our kids on this now too, because we got a kid in New York. She has, she got a quote for the, the marketplace. You know, that's the Obamacare marketplace. If you don't have, have a, an employer. $600 a month and she's not even 30. Like, come on.

[Adam Curry]

As you go with one that's they have. That brings us to the bonus clip for the, for the donation segment.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, I didn't know you had a bonus clip. What are we doing?

[Adam Curry]

20K ripoff insurance.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh my goodness, here we go. Of all people in the United States, do not use their benefits past their deductible period.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

Wow, that's a huge. And do you know what? That's well, what's the average premium now?

[John C. Dvorak]

Do you know? So it just, it just went over $20,000. And if you're a union employee, remember union. Unions. I've helped unions in the past, and.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

I think a lot of them, they.

[John C. Dvorak]

Do all first dollar coverage, meaning they have no CO pays, no deductibles, no CO insurance. And so the way that they've done theirs, they're at 28 to 30,000, depending on who you talk to. Like, I've talked to people at the uaw, I've talked to people at steel, the candy makers.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

I've talked to a bunch of different ones.

[John C. Dvorak]

And so there's somewhere in there, but I mean, you start thinking about $20,000 a year. Now, the Republicans have been very good about talking about the federal budget and how much the deficit is crushing us. But I really think the number one problem in America, the number one problem in America is stealing thousands of dollars from not only working Americans, but also what I would call middle Americans. Right. Those making $80,000 to $120,000, they have a normal, normal house. They have two car payments. They're both working. And they're just normal families, like, trying to do their thing. Their kids are in sports. There's normal people. And instead of us helping them retire, we're stealing $2,000 a month from them to pay in order to amount of money to premium. Yeah, exactly. Tina and I were paying $1,600 a month. And we're healthy. You know, I'm like, okay. And we had a deductible of some. Of some ridiculous amount, like $15,000 deductible. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

So y years worth of payments.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. So it's worthless.

[Adam Curry]

It's worthless.

[John C. Dvorak]

And what we were doing and what we would try is we do cash payment, of course, because we knew we could never satisfy the deductible unless something catastrophic happened. And you can get it for 30 cents on the dollar. They're happy. The medical community, they don't like it.

[Adam Curry]

I had clips, I don't have them, of various nurses saying that they would tell somebody that their deductible for getting an X ray of some sort is. Could be up to $100 for the, for the one X ray. Or you can go to this other X ray service with a cash deal and get the same x ray for $30.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And so what these outfits like Crowd Health, do they negotiate with the medical provider on your behalf? And then because you pay into the system, I think she pays 200% bucks a month. That if something happens, then the whole system pays for you.

[Adam Curry]

I think I should get the kids on this crowd.

[John C. Dvorak]

Seriously, the kids need this.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I agree.

[John C. Dvorak]

And the only. You can't be a smoker, though. You got to be honest about it. If you're.

[Adam Curry]

Luckily, we. None of. None of my kids are smokers. Good.

[John C. Dvorak]

And this is a good. Tina. You know, women always have more stuff than men in general, I think. And, you know, they have a. They have some preventative stuff, which is rare for like a crowdfunding act outfit. And they have, you know, if you're pregnant, no problem. Cancer, no problem. They have a prescription plan. It's. I'm amazed that. That this is not. That people don't know more about this. And I love it because it's. Americans working together.

[Adam Curry]

You think that TV people are going to talk about this? No, you're right.

[John C. Dvorak]

These guys were so hard up. They went to the bitcoin community. They were at bitcoin conferences. Yeah, man, we're a bitcoin company. No, you're not. But we love what you're doing. Doing. Anyway, Code bongino. Tina will hook you up. So where was I? What was I talking about?

[Adam Curry]

I don't know. I was talking about something to do with premium insurance. You said that you. That your kids had to pay 600.

[John C. Dvorak]

Bucks or something else.

[Adam Curry]

The Obamacare was no good.

[John C. Dvorak]

It somehow it came into the value for value. I'm not sure. Let's. Let's just thank.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, that's right. You were talking about Patreon.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Oh, that.

[Adam Curry]

How.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I don't know. How did I get off of that? So the. So Patreon. The problem. Problem is that, you know, people then they get captured. It's audience capture because they're so afraid of losing subscribers where.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, but if you say. I say I'm listening to a podcast and I subscribe to their podcast via Patreon instead, it's just sending them the money.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

So I go to Patreon and I fill out the forms and they take five bucks a month or whatever.

[John C. Dvorak]

But Patreon takes 10%, by the way.

[Adam Curry]

Okay. Which is too much.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

So they take 10% of the. Of the money and then does the podcast get my emailing address so they can send me emails?

[John C. Dvorak]

I think so. That. I don't know.

[Adam Curry]

Are you sure?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I'm not sure. But. But my point is a little different than that. The whole idea is send value. When you feel you got value, don't let me be captured by. Oh, we don't want to lose. Subscribe cybers. You know, that's, that's. It's bad. You get bad products. And we're honest. I mean, if we've been on Patreon with our Israel rap, man, we'd be.

[Adam Curry]

Broke.

[John C. Dvorak]

Because, you know, we're not. We're not getting Jew money, that's for sure.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Where's our Jew money?

[John C. Dvorak]

By the ways, are very low on this, on the page.

[Adam Curry]

We haven't been getting much Muslim money either, I might add, by a hint to our friend.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well, I figure he's. He's in some country where it's. It's hard to get to a.

[Adam Curry]

Well, once they, once they did the peace deal, he disappeared.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, good point. Notice that. Yeah, peace deal done. Okay.

[Adam Curry]

These, these.

[John C. Dvorak]

So he thinks we were keeping Trump going. Is that what his thinking was?

[Adam Curry]

I have no idea.

[John C. Dvorak]

So part of the value for value is three T's time. Talent, Treasure, you can do a lot to help the show. You can turn people on to of the show. You know, there's no algos in podcasting. There's no, you know, every, every thing that has been tried has always failed. People hear about podcasts from other people and then when they hear about it, they give it a try. And we call it hitting in the mouth because you need to smack somebody pretty hard before they the first. Like, these guys are Republicans. Oh, these guys are anti vaxxers. It takes a little bit to figure out that what we are and what we aren't.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, we're not anti vaxxers and we're not Republicans. No. And.

[John C. Dvorak]

And we also, we are open to crazy criticism. And I love the people who are saying, hey, you know, maybe if you didn't read those critical notes on the show, then you wouldn't get so many. Like, this is a feature of the show.

[Adam Curry]

Not only that, but it's. It lies. I. I said to the guy that you're talking about who made that comment. Yeah, it's an opportunity for Adam to do his A hole. It's a great voice. We love listening to it and he. But he has to practice.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I need practice. So send more.

[Adam Curry]

Just do it once every six months.

[John C. Dvorak]

So part of the time, talent and treasure is doing artwork for the show. And of course, I've been complaining for a long time about the prompt jockeys and the degradation and quality of art. And then out of the blue, left field, she must have been working on it for a while. The original Dutch master Tantonille comes back with a vengeance. Brings us 18 years of media deconstruction. A beautiful piece of art that we used for 1811. That was our 18th anniversary show titled the NA Era. This just had everything in it. And she. We agreed that she had to be working on this for a long time.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

And it was not.

[Adam Curry]

It was said to be done in advance of the show.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. And it was not. Not AI. This was.

[Adam Curry]

No. No way. I mean, that's impossible.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm seeing swine flu. I'm seeing drones. I've seen. Oh, man. Like, the MH13 plane. It masks BLM, Brexit. I mean, and it's cryptic now. Not all of it is immediately you have to look at. Like, what does she mean by this? Oh, I see you had the PBS logos. I mean, everything was in there. Transgender. All of it's in there. It was really. It was a beautiful piece. Thank you, Tantanille. We love you. We appreciate that. You did that work for us, didn't we see.

[Adam Curry]

Come look at that. Where I'm trying to find. There it is. It's on page two. Yeah, Yeah. I looked at this thing, trying to get the code from they Got the World on Fire, which was a global warming guy throwing a Melotov cocktail. A pangolin. See the pangolin. Bitcoin cross. Celebrate your.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Notice how bitcoin is early on. How we miss that Beanie Babies. We missed that one.

[Adam Curry]

Now there's a kind of a. Next to the Capitol building. There's a guy standing there with his arms. Outreach. I don't know what that one is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let me see.

[Adam Curry]

See the Trump? It's not the lower right. There's a Trump head. Then the Capitol building, and there's somebody. Maybe that's a statue that's taken down. Not sure. Ice cream cone from Biden.

[John C. Dvorak]

I see the little.

[Adam Curry]

I see the believable.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. I see the little Covid. The COVID A goat. We got peak oil. We've got. Yeah. All kinds of stuff.

[Adam Curry]

It's ridiculously great.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. The farmer protests.

[Adam Curry]

The Queen of England's on there.

[John C. Dvorak]

Trump's on there. It's beautiful. It's a piece to be framed, I would say it's frameable. It's completely frameable. Thank you, johnsonillo. We really appreciate that, and we thank all of the artists who are always trying to get something into. Into the. Into the system. And by the way, if you're having trouble uploading, it has to be the exact dimensions, the exact amount of pixels. That's why it might reject your artwork. And so we come to the treasure portion. We thank everybody, $50 and above. And of course, if you are fortunate enough to be able to Support us with $200 or more, we will not only read your note, we got some long ones today, but we will also give you an official Hollywood title of association Executive Producer, which is real. You can go to IMDb.com you'll see a lot of them, over a thousand. And if it's $300 or more, then there's a lot of different things that can happen. First of all, we read your note, you become an executive producer and we have the no Agenda International Peace Prize. And we see right off the top that we have a couple of people who are in getting ready to receive their International Peace Prize. Do we have a photograph yet of. Do we have the art, the image image that is on this so people can see it. Is that up and available? I think we're like front running the campaign.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, that's coming. We just need to. There's a couple of pieces of gear stuff that needs to be. It was ordered from Amazon and we're just waiting for it. Paper.

[John C. Dvorak]

No paper. Oh, paper. Yes. I cleaned up my studio the other day. I'm like, wow, I need to hang these up. Still have my Commodore. I have. Haven't hung up.

[Adam Curry]

Oh yeah, you got to hang all that stuff up.

[John C. Dvorak]

So we kick it off today with our top executive producer with $1,030.26, which I guess is fees from Momentum Finance LLC in Eden, Utah. And the note is short. It's always that way. Happy hump day, dames and gentlemen. Well, probably sent it on Wednesday. Check out Ad Astra Rev Liptonite. Very cryptic, cryptic note here. Do you know what this is about?

[Adam Curry]

No.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, thank you very much, Momentum Finance llc. We will check out Ad Astra Rev Liptonite. Thank you.

[Adam Curry]

The mayor of Cyprus. No note, no jingle. Came into $1,018 18, it says. No note. No nothing. Four more years. Which is a note, by the way.

[John C. Dvorak]

That is a note. That's an official note. Anonymous swings by from Mandeville, Louisiana. 52636. Probably 500 plus the feast. Dear Adam and John, Anonymous says congratulations on making 18 years of the no Agenda show. I've been listening since around show 300 or so. This donation either gets me close to knighthood or puts me across the finish line.

[Adam Curry]

But.

[John C. Dvorak]

But it's been so long since I've donated, I can't be sure anymore. Well, what happened? I'm sure you'll let me know. Well, you don't have a color So I guess you didn't quite make it. There are too many things that make your show great to list them in a pithy donation email. But first among equals is that you play the most primary and secondary source reporting of any news show in the marketplace today. Yes, you're both funny. The sound quality is great, the jingles are fun, the producers are top notch, and so on and so forth. But the real value is that in a three hour block of time, a listener more or less gets fully caught up with not just the current news of the day, but all the narratives and memes that increasingly inform that news coverage. And you do it without advertising because you've embraced the value for value model. Not even Joe Rogan can say that one day the both of you will decide to hang it up. And while you'll have certainly earned your retirement, let me check my 401k. It'll be a sad day for us listeners. Until done. Until then, well done, Adam and John. Thank you for your continued service. P.S. if I've made knighthood, let me know one day and I'll choose some sort of pseudo anonymous name. Well, I'm sure we will be in touch with you about that. Thank you. Anonymous.

[Adam Curry]

All right. Onward, sir Cristobal in Dallas, Texas, 33333. This came in, I guess through strike or stripe, and it's got no note, no nothing. So he gets a double up Karma.

[John C. Dvorak]

Here it comes.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

You've got double up karma.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right. Sarah Campbell is in Franklin, Indiana. 333. Our favorite number, ITM. Gentlemen, happy anniversary. Adam, please read this note in your hate mail. V. It's hard to do when it's not a hateful email, but I'll give.

[Adam Curry]

No, you can't. You can only do it. He's, he's, he is channeling when he does that voice and he. There's nothing here to channel.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm gonna try. I can try. I mean, I just have to envision these.

[Adam Curry]

Assume that he's being sarcastic about everything. Then you can.

[John C. Dvorak]

Even though both my husband and I are unpaid air traffic controllers right now, we had to donate because the value we received from Adam's reading of hate mail and JCD's reaction while he reads it. I can't speak for my husband, but when I'm listening to the show, not watching some, like, Silicon Valley nerd, I am laughing and fully enjoying your dynamic. This is so hard to do, you terrible. Yeah, you both are invaluable. I can't do it. I can't do it. It's not the hateful.

[Adam Curry]

Do it with. I got a better idea.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Do it in the Dutch accent.

[John C. Dvorak]

You both are invaluable, but I've taken the time to assign you use the value of 333 in hopes that you'll continue to receive hate mail and share it with us for four more years. Anonymous unpaid controller and his wife. Thank you very much.

[Adam Curry]

Can I comment on your Dutch accent?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

I don't think you stutter enough when you do it.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's only Ruth. The Dutch don't really stutter.

[Adam Curry]

Stutters. Okay, well, so. Okay, so now we go to our first associate executive producer, which brings me to the fact that. That Dana Brunetti sent a note in for his donation, which I don't see on here. Oh, there it is at the bottom.

[John C. Dvorak]

I see it.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, and he get. Okay, okay. I thought he. The way the note was written, it seemed to me that he was going for executive producer because he hates associate executive producer. Yeah, he hates it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, he didn't send in enough Jew money.

[Adam Curry]

No, I know. He actually did it on purpose. So he's a character. Oh, yeah. Believe it or not. Meanwhile, some are worth. I guess. Guess in standish Maine to 1060.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

ITM gents, after your recent mention of Maine's Graham Platner. That's the Nazi tattoo guy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah.

[Adam Curry]

I fear it's my duty to write in and share what I know about the newest Democrat stooge. This past summer, I found myself eating dinner at an establishment in Maine owned by Graham Platner's mom.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, she chat.

[Adam Curry]

Chatted with me. Chatted me up while I was sitting at the bar as she was preparing for a fundraising event she would be holding for Graham at the restaurant that weekend. Per his mom, Graham never had prior interest in politics. Oh, this is. Now this is getting good.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, here we go.

[Adam Curry]

But was rather approached by an out of state group, quote. The same group that got Mamdani in Uncle quote. When he told these approachers he had no political experience and had no idea what he would be. This is fabulous, by the way.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is content right here.

[Adam Curry]

What he would be doing. They reassured him that it didn't matter, that they had a template for him to follow and that he was just the kind of guy they were looking for.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow.

[Adam Curry]

I assume this is because he's a rural Maine born and raised local business operators, specifically in an oyster farmer. Mainers have a soft spot for lobstermen, fishermen, and he's a veteran. By those standards, he should appeal to rural Mainers who Largely conservative. It's Portland and the mid coast region's coastal elites controlling the vote as John mentioned. Right, I noticed that myself. I was curious how a random guy like this gets a approached in the first place. And it turns out his mom was is a DNC delegate. This situation makes me wonder how many other supposed locally grown candidates in other parts of the country are just stooges funded by the same out of state group. Between Rhino Collins, Corrupt Mills, Platner the Nazi and the rest of these names, I fear that all hope is lost. Pray for us. No jingles, no karma. Love you mean it. Well, 21060 by the way.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's good. I wonder how many more. Well, the squad is probably all. All of them. Who is this out of state group? That's what we got to find out. I mean it wasn't.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, Summer should have. Should have pushed for the name of the group.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, I'm sure it was Summer.

[Adam Curry]

Go back there and have another meal.

[John C. Dvorak]

Same people who did the Democrat Socialists of America who had AOC literally audition for for the gig. Yeah, and there's Eli the coffee guy with $210.30. That's because he always gives us $200 and then does the date 10:30. Get it? He says. Not sure if you guys will have clips for this one. Apparently a truck full of lab monkeys infected with herpes, hepatitis C and Covid crashed in Mississippi and one of them is still on the run. You'd think we'd learned something from the last global science experiment. Experiment? Well, as it just so turns out.

[Adam Curry]

These monkeys could be dangerous.

[John C. Dvorak]

I. I do have the clips if anyone wants.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, let's play that clip.

[John C. Dvorak]

Because first they had them, then they didn't have them. And they had one, they didn't have one. Then they had hep hepatitis and they didn't. Here's the two clips. Tonight, the urgent search for dangerous research monkeys that escaped from the wreckage of.

[Adam Curry]

A crash on a Mississippi highway.

[John C. Dvorak]

We got 21 monkey that was on.

[Adam Curry]

This.

[John C. Dvorak]

Video showing several monkeys crawling in the grass. Heavily armed officers responding to the scene. Authorities say a truck carrying nearly two.

[Adam Curry]

Dozen rhesus monkeys from Tulane University overturned.

[John C. Dvorak]

On Interstate 59 in Jasper County. Here's one of the monkeys right here. There's one sitting right there. At least six monkeys escaping. Officials warning they might be aggressive towards people and were potentially potentially infected with.

[Adam Curry]

Hepatitis C, herpes and Covid. They may have to neutralize something out here in a minute.

[John C. Dvorak]

And late today, police confirming all but one of the escaped monkeys have been euthanized for public safety reasons, adding they're.

[Adam Curry]

Still actively searching for that one monkey still on the loose.

[John C. Dvorak]

And then later they said, well, they don't. Don't worry. Don't worry. Everybody doesn't have herpes, hepatitis and Covid. Don't worry about it. None of that's true. Go back.

[Adam Curry]

Don't let him bite you.

[John C. Dvorak]

Go back to playing your harpsichord, citizen. Everything. Everything's fine.

[Guest or Additional Commentator]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Time for monkeypox. Mpox Vaccination. Anybody?

[Adam Curry]

Linda Lupatkin's up. She's in Lakewood College.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hold on, hold on. I gotta finish the note.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, I. I didn't know, dude.

[John C. Dvorak]

You were so excited to do your read. Like.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I was ready to go. I was all. I had been kind of doing some breathing exercises.

[John C. Dvorak]

Simmer down. Eli the coffee guy goes on and says, but now somewhere in the delta, there's a monkey giving herpes to a raccoon thanks to some jamoke with the California cdl. Yeah, there you go.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Oh, brother.

[John C. Dvorak]

He wants to kind of. I get. I love my truck, and I love what I do.

[Adam Curry]

I love my truck, and I love what I do.

[John C. Dvorak]

For producers looking for great coffee, visit gig coffeerosas.com use code ITM20 for 20% off your order. And I will say Tina made a dynamite tri tip yesterday and used the espresso, the black and the black, the dark, the black espresso roast as the rub. And it was fantastic. So not just for drinking. It's good for your meat. Eat too. Stay caffeinated, says Eli the coffee guy.

[Adam Curry]

Linda Lupatkin, Lakewood, Colorado. 200 bucks. Jobs. Karma for a competitive edge. She writes with a resume that gets results. Go to ImageMakersInc.com for all of your executive resume and job search needs. That's Imagemakers, Inc. With a K. And work with Lenillou, Duchess of jobs and writer of winning resumes.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. That's Vote for jobs. You've got karma.

[John C. Dvorak]

And there he is, everybody. Hollywood bigwig Dana Brunetti. Proof that real producers in Hollywood listen to this show. He's from Golden Cloud ranch in California. $200. He's a big spender. And he says. Still trying to. Still trying to financially recover from my last dinner with John. But luckily I recently received one of those rando checks. We refer to them as Mailbox Money John, since others keep doing switcheroos and loading me up with crap associate producer credits. This is also a switcheroo. It goes to one of the following. Vladimir Putin Volodymyr Zelensky, Hamas, Hitler, or Jeffrey Epstein? Choose one so it can be properly updated on IMDb. Well, I choose Putin. What do you want to choose?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I was thinking Putin too.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Adam, you've mentioned that people at your church listen, but I'm not hearing any donations from them, so please call them out as douchebags. Douchebag. Did you think you were gonna get me upset, Brunetti? Good try. Good try, Hollywood boy. Happy anniversary. 18th anniversary, boys. You're finally legal. Okay, I have to get to get back to plowing fees fields. Okay, thank you.

[Adam Curry]

That was a reference to something I said.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, well, thank you, Dana Brunetti. It's good to know that you're still listening. I know that we keep you sane in that insane world that you travel in.

[Adam Curry]

So he buys this ranch, which is big, by the way.

[John C. Dvorak]

Of course it is.

[Adam Curry]

And there's gold on the ranch. Gold. And so he's got these coal mining gear, and he's already collected enough gold to make a cop. Couple of gold rings.

[John C. Dvorak]

Couple of movies.

[Adam Curry]

Well, a couple of movies. No, not yet. But it's like this is typical of some people have, have this kind of Gladstone gander style of, you know, just falling. Pirates got gold on it. Pay for the ranch.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I was thinking, someone approached me the other day about doing a movie movie of my life. And I thought, no, Brunetti should do that. We should do it like the kid stays in the picture, you know, with the. I'll, I'll do the voice over and Ken Burns effects. And there's tons of footage and, and photos out there. That's what that. I mean that. There you go. That's. That's what you should do with this gold is make a movie about me.

[Adam Curry]

And yes, that's gonna happen. And yes, you can get Scorsese to do the movie.

[John C. Dvorak]

There you go. Congratulations to these executive producers of 1812.

[Adam Curry]

Our formula is this.

[John C. Dvorak]

We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Shut up, slave.

[Adam Curry]

Shut up, slave.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, I almost forgot. We have this one producer who is just adamant, adamant, adamant. It's 1812. 1812. It's an important episode. It's a very important number because of Tchaikovsky 1812. I never realized this was Tchaikovsky's 1812. I'm sure you knew it.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I did, but it. Where's the cannons?

[John C. Dvorak]

The cannons.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, there they are.

[John C. Dvorak]

There it is. It's almost over. That was. That's loud. There they are.

[Adam Curry]

It's a very. When it's performed. Is it. The idea is that the cannons usually Are there on stage and it really becomes very damaging.

[John C. Dvorak]

Here we go. Is this what they do on the fourth of July at fireworks?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it's a fireworks zone.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Here we go. Big finish, everybody. Man, that guy had some good drugs. How do you write something like that?

[Adam Curry]

Those days are over.

[John C. Dvorak]

AI, make that for me. Show me that. That's good. That's very good.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I suppose if you put all the classical music ever written into the corpus, you think, well, you might be able to get something out of it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Speaking of.

[Adam Curry]

Who's doing that? Somebody should I. Is somebody doing that? Somebody has to be doing it.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm sure it's. I'm sure it's in.

[Adam Curry]

There's so much classical music put in there.

[John C. Dvorak]

Did you, did you see the Grokopedia? The Grokopedia?

[Adam Curry]

I've seen the announcements for it. I've seen the write ups about it. I have not actually gone to it. As far as I'm concerned, Grokopedia is just Grok.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, no, no. It's quite interesting. So if you look up no agenda or you look up John C. Dvorak or Adam Curry, it's so extensive. I mean the corpus has so much about you, me, the shit show. I mean, it's thousands of words. And what's interesting about it, it has a lot of obscure things. But in every single version of everything I looked up, there's some things that factually are just completely wrong.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, absolutely.

[John C. Dvorak]

They have to be completely wrong. But it's not even that bothersome. It's like, wow, that's a nice write up. I had quite a life. I can die now. It's been nice knowing.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I did pretty good. Oh, I didn't know I did that. That's great.

[John C. Dvorak]

I did pretty good. Brunetti, Turn that. Turn my Grokipedia into a movie. You can do it. It's amazing. Here's something we predicted we would that would have. Actually, we didn't predict it. One of our producers predicted it. Get ready for discovery. Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton is suing the makers of Tylenol over claims the company deceptively marketed the medication. The lawsuit claims the over the counter medication was marketed to pregnant women despite alleged links to autism in other disorders. This is the first lawsuit launched by the state since President Donald Trump claimed last month that taking Tylenol while pregnant is linked to an increased risk of autism. However, there's limited evidence to suggest an association. Johnson and Johnson sold the drug for decades and its consumers, Consumer Health Division spinoff Ken View has been selling that drug since 2023. Can view pushed back against the claims, calling it misinformation. I think this is the setup, man. This is the setup. This is where Tylenol comes in. They say, you know what, you say it's us, but it's the vaccine companies.

[Adam Curry]

That's an interesting theory.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think it's coming.

[Adam Curry]

And I like the way Johnson and Johnson seem to have predicted this somewhere along the line and dumped the product.

[John C. Dvorak]

Product, yeah. Into a.

[Adam Curry]

It's like what Monsanto did with Roundup.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yep.

[Adam Curry]

Which they panned off to Bayer and now they've changed the formulation of Roundup. And what's in Roundup now is worse.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, well, that might explain this clip this morning.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

A troubling investigation by the Washington Post finds cancer rates among young adults are rising fastest in the nation's corn belt, raising concerns that farm pollution could be to blame. Since 2015, America's top corn producing states, Iowa, Nebraska, Illinois, Minnesota, Indiana and Kansas have all seen an uptick in cancer cases among people ages 15 to 49, particularly kidney and skin cancers. But Iowa stands out with the fastest increase in the country. Experts say the state is a hotspot for cancer causing agents.

[Adam Curry]

The nitrate levels in the Raccoon river are twice that of the EPA limit. I don't think it's quite right that we have no regulations on how much fertilizer can be dumped in our watershed. Upstream.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

Studies show nitrate pollution from farming and livestock operations is contaminating Iowa's water. And long term exposure to fertilizers, pesticides and herbicides has been linked to higher cancer risks. Environmental groups are now urging the state to strengthen its water standards. Agricultural groups worry additional rules for farmers would be costly and could cripple the industry. For now, researchers say they're determined to find out if chemical runoff from farms is in fact what's making people sick. We really need you to compare to bordering states and states that have similar exposures. Specifically thinking about agriculture or industry, experts say better detection tools make it easier to diagnose diagnosed cancer. But that alone doesn't explain why rates are rising so sharply.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's the con. It's in the con. It's that Roundup on the con.

[Adam Curry]

You'd think there's definitely something they're spraying.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hey, I gotta.

[Adam Curry]

It doesn't take genius to figure out what's causing this. You just have to know what is being sold.

[John C. Dvorak]

Exactly.

[Adam Curry]

But they seem to be baffled.

[John C. Dvorak]

I gotta know.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, it's the nitrate runoff. They've always had nitrate runoff. It's never, never going to be no nitrate runoff. It can't be that. It's something else.

[John C. Dvorak]

I got a note from Mark from the Walnut Grove podcast. Remember the Walnut Grove podcast?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's about Little House on the Prairie. It's a fan podcast.

[Adam Curry]

It's a fan cast.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's a fan cast. Please don't email me. Everyone's like, oh, you love it too. I love Little House on the Prairie.

[Adam Curry]

God.

[John C. Dvorak]

And he said, you know, he bought us a domain name. This hasn't happened in quite a while. People used to buy us domain names all the time.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

And we had Seanhanity.com at one time. But then the producer said, oh, I let it expire. It was so good to have Sean. Hannity.com he says with Ms. Now imminent. Ms. Now. He bought us MSNow, Flake D or MSNowflake.com, which I thought was very creative.

[Adam Curry]

That is cute.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. So thank you, Mark from the Walnut Grove podcast. Very nice.

[Adam Curry]

Let me get my clip list out.

[John C. Dvorak]

I do. You know, we had a. There was a quite a big hurricane that hit Jamaica.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. I have the Melissa update here, but this is after it hit Jamaica.

[John C. Dvorak]

I have an update from after as well, so I'll listen to yours first.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

Hurricane Melissa struck eastern Cuba this morning as an extremely dangerous category 3 storm causing severe damage. Cuban authorities report that over 700,000 people have been evacuated in the eastern part of the country. By Wednesday evening, Melissa had weakened to a Category 2 and moved into the Atlantic heading toward the Bahamas with heavy rain and flooding expected.

[John C. Dvorak]

Tropical storm warnings for the Turks and Caicos. The most dangerous conditions will be in the next few hours here as the center of Melissa moves through the Bahamas. Storm surge inundation of 4 to 7ft above ground level near and to the right of where the center of Melissa is moving.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

Though winds have decreased, officials say dangerous storm surges and rainfall remain a threat as Melissa moves toward the Bahamas and bermuda. At least 36 deaths have been reported across Jamaica, Haiti and the Dominican Republic. Public In Jamaica, the storm knocked out power to more than 600, 000 residents, uprooted trees, ripped off roofs and blocked roads in several parishes. One resident shared the terrifying experience as Melissa passed. Worst experience of my entire life. To see my place being flooded out, it's. It was terrifying for me and my child. The water level reached me to my, my waste. I was stuck in my house. They had to break into my home to save me. Rebuilding in Jamaica will be a long term effort, officials say as homes, hospitals and infrastructure were heavily damaged, and access remains challenging. UN officials report that immediate relief efforts are underway, focusing on providing food, water, and other essential supplies.

[John C. Dvorak]

So I've been going to Jamaica on vacation for over 30. Yeah, over 30 years.

[Adam Curry]

I've never been to Jamaica.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, I've done document. There's a documentary of me that I do in Jamaica.

[Adam Curry]

People on the west coast, we don't go there.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, the last time I went was just a couple years ago. They had a direct flight from Austin to Montego Bay. It was fantastic. And of course, they got rid of that flight, which is only three hours, like three and a half. A half hours. It's perfect. But the thing with Jamaica is. And I would pretty much always go to this. I don't think I've ever been to a different place. Always the same place. And the last time we went there, people who I'd seen 25 years ago were still there. So I consider them to be friends, you know, like, hey, David, how you doing? So I checked in, you know, before the storm hit. I said, hey, man, we're praying for you guys. Hope everything's okay. So here's the boots on the ground from Jamaica.

[Adam Curry]

Mr. Corey. I'm alive. I'm alive. I made it. But houses are gone. We are. We are out of. We out of hoses and everything. It's a Corey. It's serious. It's devastated. I'm telling you, I don't know what we're gonna do. We have no idea. But, you know, but as long as we have life, we will make it. I have to come miles to get some Internet, so whenever I can get in touch with you again, I will try. All right. Take care. Thank you for thinking about me and my family. Appreciate it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sounds pretty dire. Pretty bad.

[Adam Curry]

Well, you know what the Democrats say.

[John C. Dvorak]

What do the Democrats say?

[Adam Curry]

It's all the fault of Trump and because he killed usaid.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, there it is. Yes, of course. That makes sense. That makes sense. Word of the year. According to Dictionary.com.

[Adam Curry]

They have a word of the year, too.

[John C. Dvorak]

Everybody has a word of the year. This is really disappointing. Six, seven.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, no, that's not true.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. Yes.

[Adam Curry]

Well, that's lame.

[John C. Dvorak]

Of course it's lame. Dictionary.com has officially revealed its newest word of the year. 6, 7 is the word of the year. Got a note from one of our producers. I'd like to give a quick homeschooling commentary says garbage man Mitch on the 67 phenomenon. Homeschooled kids that are not overly socialized with access to phones and social media don't suffer from this stupidity.

[Adam Curry]

Yet.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'd like to give a loving shout out to our principal, my wife Melissa, who is very pregnant with human resource number six. She is cripplingly nauseous and miserable, so the older kids have been forced to step up and help more. The other day our oldest, nearly 12, was tasked with making soup entirely unaided. There were mishaps as she sauteed vegetables and simmered bacon. The potatoes were crunchy. I have no doubt she'll compare techniques and recipes with Grandma Great Grandma and her mother when she can think of food again. I suggest homeschooling accreditation as a future fundraiser. Seems to me that if you can award doctorates, then you are more than qualified to accredit ourselves. Schools the family that learns and no agendas together triumphs and stays together.

[Adam Curry]

Well, there's a interesting idea.

[John C. Dvorak]

I like that thought.

[Adam Curry]

Home so homeschooling. Well, of course it only appear not. Not. I mean, everyone who listens to the show might want to be a Commodore. Everyone who listens to the show might want to have a rando PhD. But not everybody who listens to the show are homeschoolers. That's a very small portion of of people. But it might be just enough to do a short promotion sometime early next year.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, that garbage man. Mitch, we love you. Great idea. Excellent idea.

[Adam Curry]

And even if you're not a homeschooler, might be pretty cool just to have one.

[John C. Dvorak]

Just to have one. Yeah. Hey, the trial is finally happening. Will we find out? Is there a roving bit in the middle?

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

After years of online attacks and malicious rumors, then people are on trial for sexy cyber harassment against French First Lady Brigitte Macron. Eight men and two women are accused of making false online claims about Brigitte Macron's sexual and gender identity and suggesting that her 24 year age gap with her husband, Emmanuel Macron, made her a pedophile. If convicted, the defendants, aged from 41 to 60 years old, each face up to two years in prison. Among them is Aurelien Poisson Atlan, a publicist known online as Zoe Sagan. Before his account was suspended, he was popular within conspiracy theory circles on X. The first lady has since taken the case to the country's highest appeals court. The French case is a separate from a defamation lawsuit that the presidential couple filed in a Delaware court against the far right podcaster Candace Owens. Making similar unsubstantiated claims about bridging Brigitte Macron. Owens produced series titled Becoming Brigitte Obsessing over the first lady's gender. The Macron say that they plan to present scientific and photographic evidence to prove that the first lady is biologically a woman.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Scientific and photographic evidence. Well, that'll be.

[Adam Curry]

I find it fascinating that certain people. And I would put Big Mike into this category.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Are targeted targets of this sort of. It's a smear campaign. Whether she's a male or not.

[John C. Dvorak]

Shmear.

[Adam Curry]

It's a smear campaign of some sort. And it's very interesting how it catches on, because you could probably say the same. I mean, I think that Spanberg, or whatever her name is. She looks like a dude to me. The one running for governor of Virginia.

[John C. Dvorak]

You need to move to Fredericksburg with that talk. Everybody's a dude according to people. People here. Taylor Swift is a dude. Taylor Swift's a dude.

[Adam Curry]

Another dude.

[John C. Dvorak]

Barbara Bush was a dude over and over again.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, well, I think there's some. But. But it's like, why does some of them. Why do some of these assertions catch on and other ones don't?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, do you have any theories?

[Adam Curry]

No, I have no theories on this.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think, because it's just funny. It's funny.

[Adam Curry]

Well, it is. There's something funny about it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it's funny.

[Adam Curry]

But it's like. I think there has to be something about the person who's being targeted that is, at some level, someone that's easy to dislike. Now, people love Michelle Obama. Not everybody. Not everybody. And I think she might be easy to dislike.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well, I mean, they said the same about Barack. With Barack Obama. See, he never.

[Adam Curry]

Well, maybe it's more of an insult to the guy. Maybe the target is really Barack and. And Macron himself. Well, it's an insult to them.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, Barack, I mean, man. But I think that was, you know.

[Adam Curry]

I mean, there's a lot of stuff about him being gay.

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean, that seems to be, like, pretty much true and.

[Adam Curry]

Because we don't know that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, we don't know that, but yet. Larry. What was his name?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, Larry. Larry.

[John C. Dvorak]

Larry Sinclair detailed it. Very.

[Adam Curry]

And Love Boy, or whatever his name was, who was actually working in the White House. Remember that guy?

[John C. Dvorak]

What was his name?

[Adam Curry]

Love Boy. It was like a lover.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, no. His last name was Love. It was.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, Love. And he's a little. Very feminine black man.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, yes. Well, he wasn't little. He was a big dude. He wasn't a small.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, I thought he was a little petite male.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, but I don't know. I mean, why does it stick? Because we're obsessed with nonsense. How about that?

[Adam Curry]

We are.

[John C. Dvorak]

Because that's just true. We're obsessed with nonsense. That's just who we are as a people. We're Americans. That's what we do. We go crazy. Well, it'll be interesting to see how Candace Owens lawsuit goes.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I don't know why she's on that kick.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I disagree with the report. It was. It was not unsubst. Lot of substance to her reporting a lot. You know, recently that. That little bit came out about her name being registered as Jean Michel. It'll be. Unless she pulls down her pants in court, it'll never be resolved.

[Adam Curry]

Well, even so, let's go back to the W. The, The. The credit card, the food stamp issue.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay. Is this your last.

[Adam Curry]

I want to play this clip. Clip. Because this is an interesting clip. This is a Florida. This is a fraud clip.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Which is a WTF clip of sorts. I'm sorry, you. I'm fumbling my cues. Go on.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

Walked in one by one. Some hung their heads. Others wore their feelings right there on their T shirts. Today the Manatee County Sheriff's Office announced an undercover operation they've been working on for months. Resulted in more than 100 arrest warrants and close to 40 arrests.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is a huge problem. And we're like one of maybe three or four law enforcement agencies in the.

[Adam Curry]

State of Florida that have decided to do something about this.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

And it has to do with just that. Meal tickets in the form of EBT cards for low income individuals being fraudulently used. One part of the investigation centered around Gerald Millis, who. A local restaurant owner who Police say purchased DBT cards from people for 50 to 60 cents on the dollar and then stocked his local Pizza Pros restaurant with food he bought using those cards.

[John C. Dvorak]

We were able to determine that he used 53 different EBT cards at Sam's Club.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

Police say 55 people were also caught illegally selling their EBT cards to undercover detectives.

[Adam Curry]

A couple of them said, I'm headed.

[John C. Dvorak]

To go get some rock cocaine.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

A beyond frustrating reality for taxpayers who today learned their hard earned money is being misused.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, all kinds of Social Security has always been controversial.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. This whole thing. But this. What's interesting about this clip is this clip is from 2013.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And I looked. I looked into this Manatee county stuff. They did this same sting operation in 2012 they did in 2013, and I can't find any evidence of them ever doing it again. Something changed, and I think they were. Somebody came up to them and said you got to stop doing this. These cards are used. Yes. People are buying crack with them and whatever, this is what we want.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well how about this when. Because in the, I think the one big beautiful bill, I believe that there has been a slash of SNAP benefits particularly qualification which the states have to do just like the Medicare benefits. It's like hey, we gotta clamp down on this, there's a lot of fraud going on, we gotta figure this out. But it is my suspicion that the big box stores like Walmart, Target and others who also sell food, that their prices are just like insurance, that they're kind of artificially inflated because of this money. Just the way like tuition now once we got student loans handled by the government, tuitions went through the roof. Once we got Obamacare which has subsidies for health insurance insurance goes through the roof, you have this prolonged EBT SNAP which is going directly into mainly Walmart big box stores. It may actually artificially have inflated the price and it may become a problem for them. Does that make any sense?

[Adam Curry]

Well, I don't know if the prices are higher at Walmart but the fact that the stores are the target, in fact the people complaining about losing their SNAP benefits are all mentioning they're going to rob from Walmart. With very few exceptions, it's always Walmart that's the target of the robbery and Walmart's taking action which we mentioned earlier in the show. It's possible that there's some collusion going on, but it seems to me me that and maybe this, if it wasn't for these cars, Walmart wouldn't even be in business. That's always possible. Yeah, and there are examples of people who've talked about this. One woman was on I don't have the clip, I get too many of these clips. You get irked. Some woman complaining and she's. A lot of these women are bragging about how they're using the system and one of them says I bought a rice cooker using the EBT card, which I think is actually not a bad idea. But at the same time it's supposed to be for food only, but she managed to do it and she did it through either Walmart or Costco.

[John C. Dvorak]

I bet it's Target because Target started selling food, which I always thought was strange. Target didn't used to sell food. Now they have a whole grocery division. You know that's true.

[Adam Curry]

That's an interesting point. And you, you're right and Targets never to me seem like a food store.

[John C. Dvorak]

And every single time I've been in a Target, it's empty. I've never seen it except on Black Friday. But I don't go out on Black Friday. But it always seems empty to me. I'm like, how do these people stay in business? Never seems busy, never seems.

[Adam Curry]

There's something fishy about it.

[John C. Dvorak]

The point is that you're. No agenda detectives are on the, the case.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. We won't figure it out either. But, but the.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, we won't.

[Adam Curry]

But this, the fact that they had this scam and this reports from 2013 and there's nothing sense.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And it could have been, obviously this is the way you go. You got, you, you, you're some poor guy and you got a card that you get somehow and you can sell it for, you know, 50 cents on the dollar and have some cash, which is king, by the way. Yep. This has to be going on everywhere.

[John C. Dvorak]

Give me one last clip, Johnny boy, and then we'll get out of here. We got a lot of fun stuff to do. We've got, we've got peace prizes to hand out. We've got end of great AI, end of show mixes. Except for Oysteinberger who is the real deal. He's the real deal.

[Adam Curry]

Just like you, by the way.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's the real deal. And, and of course, your tip of the day and the first time I'll be reading the donors $50 and above. I'm very excited about my new task.

[Adam Curry]

Well, let's just go to shutdown blather on ntd.

[John C. Dvorak]

The Republican leadership thanked essential workers who are still on the job without pay. They pointed out that the largest union of federal workers as well as the national association of Air Traffic Controllers have come out the this week urging Democrats to pass the short term funding bill. Meanwhile, Democratic leadership is accusing Republicans of refusing affordable health care for Americans. They say Republicans, including President Trump should come to the negotiating table on health care. Oops. I have, I have a request from our air traffic controller producers. We have a lot of them, which I always love that I've never actually spoken to one on the, on the radio, at least not one that's going hey, hey in the morning to you. They do that with each other and other pilots, you know, like itm, they say itm. Yeah, we were supposed to go on vacation for five days in three weeks from now, just before Thanksgiving with, with some friends of ours and, and the, the women folk are very worried that, that we will not be able to return or that there may be an issue or that it's just going to be basically a nightmare.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I think they're probably correct.

[John C. Dvorak]

And which. So there's. There's consideration of canceling said vacation, which I'm okay with. I mean, I'm happy.

[Adam Curry]

Always go on a vacation.

[John C. Dvorak]

Can always take a vacation. Can always. Yeah. I mean, we're podcasters. We can do whatever we want.

[Adam Curry]

We can go take a vacation whenever you want.

[John C. Dvorak]

We can do a vacation whenever we feel like it. I'd like to know what, what our ATC producers are feeling like. Will there be a real. I mean, I'm seeing news reports, but, you know, who knows? So let me know. Let me know what you think. I think it's technically illegal for ATC to not show up for work, but there's sick days and there's all kinds of stuff.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, they can take. There's. They have time out. You have. When you work for the government, you always build up a lot of free time.

[John C. Dvorak]

And they deserve it, by the way. They deserve it because it's a tough job. It's a challenging job. In fact, I'm too old to be an air traffic controller. I found out, I'm like, I'll step in. I can talk on the radio.

[Adam Curry]

I can step in.

[John C. Dvorak]

I can step in. Come on, November Delta.

[Adam Curry]

Hey, for 147, you got a bogey on your left. Bogey. I'm gonna show my support by donating to no Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah, that'd be f. That would be legendary. You got a bogey at 3 o'.

[Adam Curry]

Clock.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hey, here's the rest of people who supported us for show 18, 12, $50 and above. We kick it off with Sir Horatio. Hey, there he is. He's in London and he's still allowed to listen to this show. That's amazing.

[Adam Curry]

Dame Janet. You just skipped right over Bob.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is new to me. This is a whole new thing. It's very difficult. Dame Janet and Sir Jeff. I'm sorry, from Watkins, Virginia, Georgia. 180. This is a leftover from our 18th anniversary. Happy 18th year. Now you can vote. Thank you very much. That's Dame Janet. Sir Jeff, AKA Island Dog. There's. Sir Horatio is excited because we got someone from the UK and he's listened to the DSC and no agenda most of the last 18 years. And he is our knight, Sir Horatio of Wandsworth Legacy 3rd, LLC in Dallas, Texas. 155. And then there's a knight, James Kashin II. And so I'm going to read his. His Note, new night, best price. As a fanatic of the no Agenda show and Tchaikovsky's music. Oh, there he is. I've donated 1812. Small jingle replace. Just play Tchaikovsky's 1812 Overture. It's only about 15 minutes and change. Ah, so this is why he sent me the the big finale. Thank you. Roundtable requests. Change up Rent boys and Riesling. All right. We know what you're into, James. And his night name will be James Kashin II. Knight of the Orange Lambda. You got it. Happy 1812. John Hoibo in Bristol, Tennessee. 105 35. We got Sir Mike from San Diego and he sent us 105 34. He has a rather long note. I'm not going to read that one. Ian Field, $100. Connie Walls. That sounds like a new name. $100. Oh, she's Connie. Connie Vols losing. She's from High north, the Netherlands. I love your shows and I love what you do. Thank you. Zachary shuta in Charlotte, North Carolina. 100. Kellen Prince, Hollywood, Florida. 100. Up with Karma, down with douchebags. There he is. Kevin McLaughlin, Concord, North Carolina. 8008. The boob donation. He loves boobs. And he says PSA check in your pumpkins. It's still Cancer awareness month. Thank you Kevin for the public service announcement. Jack schofield, Yankee Town, Florida. 7132. Thank you for all the great episodes. 6767. Ro from Coming Georgia. 7061. Universal Ostrich Farms. They're killing the ostriches. Good to know. Hank Von Eldick. He sounds like he's in the Netherlands. He sends us the 6 7. Are these 67 donations with fees added?

[Adam Curry]

I don't think so.

[John C. Dvorak]

He says 6 7061. 6 7. Congratulations on the 18th. Sir Valen of Lincoln. Chaod from Lincoln. Another Brit. Gents, this Halloween will mark my 15th lap around the sun. Please accept my donation of 67 plus fees. These are six sevens. It's better not to do the fees in that case. I mean, it costs us money. But then it's not as funny if I don't catch it. John alberini with a 67 plus fees. Tyler Darrington, Las Vegas, Nevada. 6767. Sir Latte Bremerton, Washington. 6767. This is catching on, John. The 67 thing is like it's good for us. Craig Kohler, Evansville, Indiana. 6502. Lydia Terry Dominelli, Rochester, New Hampshire. 6 61. 14th End of the month is tough right now. Well, thank you, Linda. Lydia we appreciate that you thought of us anyway. Nathan Gwynn, Jackson, Tennessee, 52.72. That's probably 50 plus fees. Harold McCoy, Old Monroe, Missouri, 52.72. Stephen Nearing, 52.25. Parts unknown. And here, the 50s. Benjamin Ryan from Alliance, Ohio. Aaron Weiss Gerber in Bend, Oregon. Rich Richard Gardner from I think he's Sir Richard Gardner, $50. Bobby Bo Bluegrass, Iowa, 50. Terrence Clark from Jacksonville, Florida, 50. Nathan Knoll from Nederland, Texas, 50. And finally wrapping up our list of 50s, Joshua Johnson from Omaha, Nebraska. Thank you very much to these producers and everybody else who came in under $50, which we will not mention for reasons of anonymity. And again, thank you to our executive producers of episode 1812. You too can support the best podcast in the universe with any amount you feel like it's value for value. You get value. You say, hey, this is worth this much to me. I'm going to send this back. That's how it works. We always will. Thank you. And we are very appreciative. Noagendadonations.com consider setting up a recurring donation. Any amount, any frequency. Noagendadonations.com Allison Luna wishes her smoking hot husband Jose a Very happy 45th. He turned 45 yesterday. Dame Quill TV Happy birthday to Sir Bird Dog. He celebrates today and surveillance of Lincoln Chaot turns 58 tomorrow. Happy birthday from everybody. Here at the best podcast in the universe. We have two two pieces prizes and these peace prizes are of course extremely important because they are in recognition of international peace that you prize courtesy of the no Agenda show. And these peace prizes today go to Momentum Finance LLC and the Mayor of Cyprus go to noagenderrings.com soon you'll be able to see your fantastic peace prize and you will tell us where to to send it and what name to put on it. Thank you for supporting peace and the no Agenda show. We have one night to bring up on the podium today. If you can grab your blade for me.

[Adam Curry]

Here you go.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, very good. Fancy one. James Kashin ii. You, sir, are about to become a knight of the no Agenda roundtable thanks to your aggregate support of $1,000 or more. And I'm very proud to be pronounce the KB Sir James Kashin ii, Knight of the Orange Lambda. And he wanted not hookers and blow, he wanted rent boys and Riesling. Also on deck for you and the other knights and dames here is taquitos and tequila. We got harlots and Haldol. We've got redheads. And ryes, Organic macaroni and plasticizers, Beer and blunts, Brazilian hottie and Kashasha. We got Rubin esque women in rose, Gaseous vodka, Vanilla bong hits and bourbons, Sparkling cider and escorts, Ginger ale and gerbils, Breast milk and babble, man, as always. We got some mutton and meat on deck right there for you. Go to noagenderings.com let us know what size your finger is. There's a ring sizing guide on that website and as always, it comes accompanied with some wax because it is a signet ring. You can seal your important correspondence with it and a certificate of authenticity. And welcome to the round table. Our brand new nights.

[Adam Curry]

No gentleman.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's right, the no Agenda meetups. You can organize one near you, you can go to one that's been organized near you can find [e-mail]. all we ask for is that you have a good time. And remember that this connection brings you protection. These people will be the first responders in any emergency you have. And they are global. Here is the meetup report from Berlin Deutschland. Hello, John.

[Guest or Additional Commentator]

Hello.

[Adam Curry]

Adam Tal from Berlin.

[John C. Dvorak]

Here we have five people including me who showed up for this Berlin meetup. Went much better than the last time around.

[Adam Curry]

Really lovely people. We've had all sorts of interesting, engaging conversation.

[John C. Dvorak]

We've already started a signal group where we'll spam each other, I'm sure and I'll pass it along. Be kind to one another and happy birthday. Yeah. In the morning. In the morning. Adam and John, he's Augusto de Britalian, also Secretary General of Sao Paulo. And I'm happy to meet awake people that here like in the zombie land of Berlin. So yeah, that's it. Four more years. Four more years. Four more years. All right. You forgot to add your server. That was have been fun to hear a German server, but we'll. We'll let you slide on that one. I'm glad that there's five people there and you know, let us know what you think of Naomi. That would be good to know. Somehow this one got lost. This is the 68th meetup of the flight of the no Agendas. Leo Bravo diligently hosting these meetups in Los Angeles. Hi everybody, it's Leo Bravo. I'm here with the crew. I'm passing fun around for, you know, their greetings. Hey John.

[Adam Curry]

Am sir. Leah, Kim, Faux pop.

[John C. Dvorak]

Please be nice to each other.

[Adam Curry]

Hey guys, this is Slick Rick.

[John C. Dvorak]

More trains in the morning.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

Trains good, Planes bad. This is Lady Chanaka of California. The peaberry Steven Crowder is one of the goats. Change my mind.

[Adam Curry]

In the morning.

[John C. Dvorak]

Happy birthday, Leo. Listen to the horn in the morning. Yeah, Leo. Bravo. Always packs him in, man. There's a lot of producers in Law Angeles. Always appreciate that. That's nice. We have a couple of meetups taking place. One today, actually. The North Georgia now quarterly starts at 6 o' clock in Alpharetta, Georgia at Cherry Street Brewing. Tomorrow, the seventh amygdala checkup in Leiden, the Netherlands. 8:03pm at Drunklokal Sestinfe in Leiden, the Netherlands. And on Sunday, our next show day, the Anybody out there? Meetup two o' clock at Ska Brewery in Durango, Colorado. Colorado. And also on Sunday, the Indy Na Tri State Short and Long Barrel Safety meetup, two o'.

[Adam Curry]

Clock.

[John C. Dvorak]

This sounds like the long, short and long. Are they going to do some shooting over there? I'm sure we'll get a report from Dame Annette, of course, Dame Maria and Sir Mark of the Greenwood who are organizing that. Plenty of meetups still to come in November, including international ones such as Zurich, Switzerland and what, no Netherlands anyway, anymore. Okay, so please go to no agenda meetups.com find a meetup near you. You need to witness this at least once. I guarantee you you'll want to go back. And if you can't find one near you, start one yourself. Noagendameetups.com Easy and always a partake. Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.

[Adam Curry]

You.

[John C. Dvorak]

Want to be where you won't be triggered or help. You want to be where everybody feels the same.

[Adam Curry]

It's like a party.

[John C. Dvorak]

Stay tuned for some dynamite into show mixes soon to be featured on our on our stream. I haven't really gotten a good name for the stream yet. Here's some. I got some examples here. When will come I got V for V Value for vibes, generation K 1000K. Do we. Let me check. Hold on. I think I gave that one up. Well, it was a dot FM. It's expensive. The dot FMS are like 100 bucks. 1000. Oh, I have. Oh, do I still have it? No, I don't. I don't K1. It's. That's not really a good name. You know, if there's something we had the Music Matrix lyrics no Agenda beats the best music in the beat.

[Adam Curry]

What no Agenda Beats should be a recipe.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hey, before we get to that, we do have John's Tip of the Day and a couple of isos. I see you only brought one to the to the party today.

[Adam Curry]

I brought one.

[John C. Dvorak]

I have four. So I'll play mine, and we'll see what you came up with. Here's my first one.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

It was a huge success.

[John C. Dvorak]

Here's the next one.

[Adam Curry]

It's just totally freaky.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay. And this one.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

This isn't real. This cannot be real.

[John C. Dvorak]

Kind of like that one.

[Adam Curry]

That's cute.

[John C. Dvorak]

And then these people are deeply, deeply weird. Come on, man. Come on. That's no.

[Adam Curry]

That's no good. It's just disparaging. I don't think that's good.

[John C. Dvorak]

Disparaging for the show. All right, what do you have?

[Adam Curry]

I got the classic.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, here we go.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

Yep, the show is too long, and.

[John C. Dvorak]

Of course, that is the winner. But before we get to the long part, here's John's tip of the day.

[Adam Curry]

And sometimes. Adam. Yeah, the show is too long. Okay. This is a very interesting tip. This. And anyone who adopts this process and starts using these things will forever use them. This way. Way to go.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

It's called. And there's what. There's a couple brands, but the one I'm going to cite is the Wago W A G O. And I'm talking about the Wago lever nuts. Lever nuts, which is also called a Wago lever connector. And these are little devices that you. You know how when you splice wires, you tend to take the two wires. You got two wires, you want to slice them together, You. You put them against each other, and you twist and twist and turn them around. So then you put some electrical tape around it, and you've got your wires.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wait, wait. Don't you have one of those things you twist on top of it?

[Adam Curry]

You could, but it's nothing compared to these little orange things, which are. You open the levers, you stick a wire in one side, a wire in the other, flip the levers down. The thing's solid. Rock solid. It's the. One of the greatest little. For anyone who works with wiring. This is and is not a pro. And you don't want to solder the wires. This is the way to go. This is a very interesting product. Very good product.

[John C. Dvorak]

People should all have it called again. The lever nuts.

[Adam Curry]

W A G O. Lever nut.

[John C. Dvorak]

Lever nut. I want to take a look at this product. Wago lever nut series. 220. Oh, okay. And now, when have you recently been putting wires together?

[Adam Curry]

When you have a fixture in the ceiling, this is the perfect time to use them. Because once you use. Because you got wires you got to, you know, deal with over your head and the ceiling. No, no, no. You want these things.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, this is good. They have. Oh, wow. They even have the 22, the 221 series for hazardous locations.

[Adam Curry]

And the thing is that these things are also built like little legos so they can click together.

[John C. Dvorak]

That is what I would call an outstanding tip of the day, ladies and gentlemen. Find them all a tip of the day.net.

[Adam Curry]

And sometimes Adam created by Dana Burnetti.

[John C. Dvorak]

Good tip, john. Good tip. Tipoftheday.net is turning out to be quite the resource for people who like stuff. Who likes.

[Adam Curry]

You like stuff. Go there.

[John C. Dvorak]

And I'm. And I'm on my side. Second bottle of Robert Mondavi and I'm loving it. Another fantastic tip of the day. It's all good. I love it.

[Adam Curry]

You're not drinking during the show.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I'm not. But it's about to start and I'll start during planet Rage as Darren o' Neill and Larry with the deep voice pick up the no agenda pieces and. And rage out together. It's good. It's up next on noagendastream.com end of show mixes. Sir Joe Ho. We've got clip custodian Neil Jones Oyste with a classic and original and Bri bringing you kind of a mix of a little bit of Halloween type vibes. And I am coming to you from the heart of the Texas hill country where everybody's a dude. Frederick in the morning, everybody.

[Adam Curry]

I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley going to remind everybody that next show we have a time change. We're going back to regular standard time. I'm John C. Devora.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's right. Listen up, Europeans. Remember us atnoensafe donations.com until Sunday. Adios mo fos a hooey, hooey and such.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

Both Bill and I are deeply concerned.

[John C. Dvorak]

We're deeply concerned.

[Adam Curry]

Concerned.

[John C. Dvorak]

Deeply concerning reports. Reports are coming in. They might be true. They might be trending.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

We're deeply concerned.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I'm deeply concerned. Experts are uncertain, but the concern is never ending. And we are all deeply concerned.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

Deeply concerned.

[John C. Dvorak]

Deeply concerned.

[Adam Curry]

It's deeply concerned.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's an American who is deeply concerned with the direction of our nation. We've reached out for comment.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

Deeply concerned about the ethical implication.

[John C. Dvorak]

We've reviewed the footage.

[Adam Curry]

Still concerned, huh?

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

Calling it deeply concerning.

[John C. Dvorak]

Deeply concerned. But I was so deeply concerned about.

[Adam Curry]

What, what a Trump presidency might look like.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm deeply concerned. Why the mask to hide my face.

[Adam Curry]

Face, face, face.

[John C. Dvorak]

Two different dudes. And then there's the, the guy with the mask or they all have masks.

[Adam Curry]

I don't know.

[John C. Dvorak]

People have a hard time believing. But the mask thing is real. I mean, there's real masks that will fool you. I gotta hand it to you kids. Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. Not real. Microsoft co founder Bill Gates. Not real.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

Madam Vice President Kamala Harris.

[John C. Dvorak]

She's not real.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

Senator J.D. vance. You're not real.

[John C. Dvorak]

California Democrat Adam Schiff. Adam.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

Not real.

[John C. Dvorak]

Real. The mask thing is real. I just woke up from a scare. Yes, it was a real nightmare. Bombs dropping down everywhere Demonstrations were run by George Soros Politicians were crooked and hollow and every song on the radio were made by AI Made by AI when the wars are ending I'm gonna send a text to you.

[Adam Curry]

So get.

[John C. Dvorak]

In the troll room because I Our time for fun is not through Let.

[Guest or Additional Commentator]

Us log on just for a while.

[John C. Dvorak]

And troll with a smile when the wars are ending I'm gonna send a text to it's the witching hour and.

[Adam Curry]

You should be in bed the world is shut down but you work instead.

[John C. Dvorak]

When the dead is rising and the.

[Adam Curry]

Bank is dry the wolves in the capital are howling at the sky the elites got their places with blood and.

[John C. Dvorak]

Lies they come after our children with greed in their eyes they make our lives intolerable and laugh at the pain but somehow we keep electing them into office again.

[Adam Curry]

There's a snake oil commercial.

[John C. Dvorak]

On my TV they slither into news.

[Adam Curry]

And shows spreading new disease the people.

[John C. Dvorak]

We entrusted with our welfare Are banking on our sickness and the war in the air the elites got their places with blood and lies they come after our children with greed in their eyes they make our lives intolerable and laugh at the pain but oh, we keep electing them in office again mofo dvorak.org.

[Various News Clips / Reporters]

Na yep, the show is too long.