1829 - "Zoomerwaffen"

Summary

No Agenda Show – Episode 1829: "Zoomerwaffen" December 28, 2025
Hosts: Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak

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Episode Overview

In this post-Christmas episode, Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak bring their signature "media assassination" to a grab-bag of topics: evolving holiday greetings, the rise and style of controversial podcaster Nick Fuentes as emblematic of a "Zoomerwaffen" trend, media and political narratives around the US strike in Nigeria, the unraveling of the Epstein files redaction debacle, shifting geopolitics and resources in Africa, debates over foreign aid, real-world child abuse scandals that outpace media circus coverage, nuclear fusion and quantum computing hype, and global political realignments.

The hosts take pride in helping their “Zoomer Waffen” audience (and all listeners) see through mainstream media narratives and internet propaganda, often using humor, clips, and tangents along the way.

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Major Discussion Points and Insights

Holiday Greetings and Social Climate

[00:05–02:56]

• Playful banter on American vs. British holiday greetings ("Merry Christmas" vs. "Happy Christmas").
• Comments on discomfort around celebrating Hanukkah publicly due to current social/political climates; menorah art not posted "out of fear for backlash" ([01:56], Adam Curry).

Quote – John C. Dvorak [01:44]:

"It's not worth the aggravation, exactly."

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Nick Fuentes, Podcasting Trends & "Zoomerwaffen"

[02:11–12:47]

• Adam profiles Nick Fuentes as the "best solo podcaster working right now," highlighting his technical skills and delivery—even if he's controversial ([03:08], Adam Curry).
• "Zoomerwaffen" coined as a term reflecting a new, provocative, internet-native outrage culture among young right-wingers ([07:46], John).
• Breakdown of Fuentes' rhetorical technique: creates doubt, launches lengthy and polished soliloquies, and closes with "discrepant facts to confuse you further"—compared to Rush Limbaugh and Jim Rome.
• In-depth playthrough and deconstruction of Fuentes' three-part rant on J.D. Vance, political kingmaking, and media puppet-masters ([05:43-12:47]).

Quote – Adam Curry [03:08]:

"He's unbelievably talented... I think he's the best podcaster working right now, even though I think he's controversial."

Quote – John C. Dvorak [07:46]:

"This is the perfect Zoomer Waffen rage bait..."

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Shifting Right in Media and the Podosphere

[13:27–15:14]

• The hosts draw comparisons between Fuentes and media legends, and connect his ascendance to shifting right-wing online narratives (Turning Point USA, Candace Owens, etc.).
• Discussion of Nick Shirley, a new online hero exposing Somali-run healthcare and childcare scams in Minneapolis, and the media ignoring the story.

Quote – John C. Dvorak [14:32]:

"It's astonishing to me that the mainstream media has avoided this topic like the plague."

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US Strike in Nigeria: Media Deconstruction and Geopolitics

[17:34–28:53]

• Deconstruction of TV news coverage of the US Christmas Day missile strike in Nigeria: Adam and John point out that most reporting prioritizes religious angles ("protecting Christians") but miss the economic motives relating to rare earth minerals, gold, and lithium, and moves against China ([21:15]).
• Nigerian government publicly happy about US involvement, but underlying motivations are analyzed (mining interests, targeting rebel groups), with US actions framed as resource control, not purely anti-terror or Christian protectionism.

Quote – John C. Dvorak [21:15]:

"Why is he shooting missiles at the northwest? ... What was bombed or targeted were rebel groups protecting the illegal mining operations... This is a move against China. This is a move against the rare earths."

• Hosts also pick apart the media’s reluctance or inability to report on these resource politics.

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Epstein Files Unredacting Fiasco and Pedophile Scandals

[29:03–40:19]

• A viral YouTuber reveals a simple trick to unredact DOJ's Epstein files by copy-pasting into Microsoft Word ([29:39]).
• Adam and John speculate whether this was an intentional "mistake" to quietly leak info while maintaining plausible deniability. ("You don't think they did this on purpose? ... Of course they did this on purpose." [31:06])
• Comment on the sudden shift in media labeling of Epstein: "dead pedophile" rather than "financier."
• Mainstream media focus on Trump’s association with Epstein as opposed to others (ex: Prince Andrew, Canadian mogul Peter Nygaard), and frustration at the general lack of outrage/action over active real-world child abuse cases vs. endless Epstein speculation.
• Critique performative outrage: "They don't really care about the kids, they just care about Trump or whoever's being blackmailed." ([37:43])

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US Military–Industrial Complex, The Golden Fleet & Corporate Reform Promises

[40:33–45:43]

• Examining President Trump’s (2025) proposal for the "Golden Fleet," an ambitious and costly naval upgrade initiative.
• Analysis: Skepticism abounds about the feasibility, necessity, and likelihood of defense contractors actually producing results.
• Trump's rhetoric about dividends, buybacks, and executive pay at defense companies is dissected; John muses: "they're just going to keep pocketing the money" ([44:08]).

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Foreign Aid, USAID, and NGO Critique

[47:23–58:47]

• Dissection of NPR’s report on the closure/dismantling of USAID and subsequent funding shift in the Trump administration.
• NPR characterization: humanitarian catastrophe and “cruelty,” with anecdotes (e.g., a Nigerian child with sickle cell dying due to shuttered clinics). John and Adam push back on the framing, questioning data and logic.
• Analysis: Foreign aid as soft power, money laundering, and misguided priorities ("poverty solutions" and “climate solutions” as bureaucratic jargon).

Quote – Adam Curry [54:28]:

"There are homeless all over San Francisco... But there's a boy in Nigeria who died because of Trump's cruelty."

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Fusion, Quantum Computing and Tech Hype Skepticism

[59:09–71:32]

• Devin Nunes on TAE Technologies’ fusion ambitions, and death of an MIT plasma scientist; speculation about industrial intrigue and actual capabilities vs. hype cycle.
• Linking the fusion and quantum computing hype train to the needs of AI/data-center expansion and recurring investment bubbles. John and Adam are extremely skeptical about any imminent breakthroughs, highlight the negative energy economics of fusion, and frame it as a new hype vector after AI.

Quote – John C. Dvorak [67:29]:

"This could be an enormous addition to the GDP now that... the data center deals are starting to slow down. This could just be the next hype, just to keep the train rolling."

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Ukraine, Russia, and the New Economic War

[72:57–90:53]

• Analysis of peace negotiations between Trump, Zelensky, Canada, and the "coalition of the willing;" consensus pessimism that nothing substantive will be achieved.
• European loan/bailout support for Ukraine scrutinized, with skepticism about loan/assistance effectiveness and downstream political consequences.
• Segment featuring Yanis Varoufakis (former Greek finance minister): Russia retaliates to European asset seizures by nationalizing all EU corporate assets in Russia ([84:59]); Russia further rejects the Euro for oil and gas sales, insisting on rubles or yuan only — thus strengthening RUB/CNY and weakening the Euro.
• Referencing RAND Corporation 2019 playbook for escalating economic war with Russia — Adam and John allege the playbook has been followed step-by-step.

Quote – Giannis Varoufakis [85:20]:

"Within 48 hours, Russia announced the nationalization of all European corporate assets on Russian territory... The total value exceeded $120 billion..."

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Retail, Returns, and Changing Consumer Habits

[90:54–95:01]

• CBS report on retailers now charging for online returns, leading to behavioral change in consumers — notably women ordering multiple items and returning most.
• Adam points out: this will push people back to in-person shopping.
• The situation is framed as a correction of a system abused during e-commerce's expansion.

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Political Conference Dysfunction (AmFest Recap)

[95:44–100:53]

• A field report from "America Fest," presenting a divided conservative movement (“Pro-America or Pro-Israel?”) and culture-war drama (Ben Shapiro, Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson infighting).
• Odd/insensitive branding at political rallies, e.g., a tent replicating a notorious execution scene as a photo-op.
• John frames "Turning Point USA" as primarily a voter registration and activation machine, now pre-activating around JD Vance; Adam bemoans the "podcasting industrial complex."

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The Brooks PBS "Conservative" Lie Breakdown

[101:11–111:34]

• Adam and John mock David Brooks’ appearance as the “conservative” on PBS, catching him in multiple historical and factual errors about U.S. civic institutions (DOJ formation, NAACP, Boys and Girls Club, Sierra Club, etc.).
• They use this as an example of performative centrism and media misinformation, especially in relation to Trump narratives.

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Media Coverage of Trump: Office Décor "Outrage" & Derangement

[111:49–117:01]

• Mockery of Bloomberg/PBS/NPR coverage of Trump’s cosmetic changes in the White House ("guilded mirrors," hiding the peephole); hosts ridicule focus on trivialities as new examples of Trump Derangement Syndrome.

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Value-for-Value, Listener Acknowledgement, and Community

[117:41–124:21]

• Long segment on show’s value-for-value model, reading executive producer credits and notes.
• Continued emphasis on audience engagement, direct support, and the show's “family” of producers.
• Side discussions on digital music archiving, podcast meta, and discovery nostalgia.

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The Nature of Media and Gambling: "Limbic Capitalism"

[158:24–165:39]

• John coins (or re-coins) "limbic capitalism" — media and industries engineered to hack the brain’s reward system (gambling, social media, porn, newsfeeds, etc.).
• NPR segment on gambling's corrosive influence on professional sports and the normalization of betting/gaming culture in media and among youth.
• Adam and John distinguish their own show as the antithesis of limbic capitalism: "We are addictive, but not for your limbic system" ([165:34]).

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Power Shifts: EEOC, Global Rightward Drift, and Propaganda

[167:02–179:02]

• Briefly touch on US government agency (EEOC) priorities under the Trump administration and growing focus on "DEI" backlash, religious liberty, and revisionist civil rights policies.
• NPR and BBC reports analyzed on Latin America's rightward shift: the populist, anti-crime, anti-immigration wave in the Southern Hemisphere receives support (and money) from Trump and US, mirrored with building fences, deportations, and strongman tactics in El Salvador, Chile, et al.
• BBC World Service exposé on "pro-Russia" Donbass media centers: local podcasters/video creators push Moscow-friendly messaging for Russian-speaking audiences; Adam and John are skeptical about the western framing as always.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• [03:08] Adam Curry: "He’s unbelievably talented… he’s the best podcaster working right now, even though he’s controversial."

• [21:15] John C. Dvorak: "Why is he shooting missiles at the northwest? ...This is a move against China. This is a move against the rare earths."

• [31:06] Adam Curry: "You don’t think they did this on purpose? ...Of course they did this on purpose."

• [67:29] John C. Dvorak: "This could just be the next hype, just to keep the train rolling..."

• [85:20] Yanis Varoufakis (as played): "Within 48 hours, Russia announced the nationalization of all European corporate assets on Russian territory..."

• [154:30] Obama phone clip (by listener request):
  “Everybody in Cleveland, low minority, got Obama phone. Keep Obama in president!”

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Timestamps of Important Segments

• Nick Fuentes/Zoomerwaffen analysis: [02:27–12:47]
• US Nigeria strike media deconstruction: [17:34–28:53]
• Epstein files redaction trick & child abuse cases: [29:03–40:19]
• Foreign aid/USAID/NPR critique: [47:23–58:47]
• Fusion/Quantum computing skepticism: [59:09–71:32]
• Yanis Varoufakis – Russian retaliation/euro crisis: [84:59–87:53]
• Retail/return fees: [90:54–95:01]
• Brooks on PBS media falsehoods: [101:11–111:34]
• Limbic Capitalism & sports gambling: [158:24–165:39]
• Latin America rightward turn/NPR: [178:48–184:28]
• Donbass propaganda schools (BBC): [171:24–177:34]

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Tone & Style

• Language: Irreverent, skeptical, sometimes conspiratorial, always critical of mainstream and “official” narratives.
• Vibe: Banter-heavy, laden with sarcasm, inside jokes, and real-time deconstruction; sprinkled with technical notes on podcast production and media.
• Audience: Media-savvy, critical thinkers, often with a libertarian or anti-authoritarian bent—especially sharp toward both left and right establishment media.

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Concluding Message

Adam Curry and John Dvorak end the episode as always: calling for direct producer support via value-for-value, inviting listeners to "meetups" for real-world connection, warning against mainstream brain hacks and media-driven hysteria, and encouraging all generations—especially their fast-growing young audience of “Zoomer Waffen”—to use their own brains and “listen to your uncles.”

Transcript

[Adam Curry]

Hello.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hello.

[Adam Curry]

Adam Curry, Chauncey dvorak.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's Sunday, December 28, 2025. This is your award winning Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 1829. This is no Agenda with Africa News you can use. And broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill country here in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody.

[Adam Curry]

I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley. We hope everybody had a happy Christmas. I'm John C. Dvorak.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's crackpot and Buzz.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Merry Christmas. We already went through this. Happy Christmas. That's what the British say. By the way, they say happy Christmas. Happy Christmas to you.

[Adam Curry]

So what's wrong with Happy Christmas?

[John C. Dvorak]

We already went through this on the, on the Christmas show. There's nothing wrong with it. It's just un American.

[Adam Curry]

What's so American about Mary?

[John C. Dvorak]

That's just what we do. We do Merry Christmas.

[Adam Curry]

I think we do Merry holidays. I just brought the old joke back. Yeah, yeah, I know, I know.

[John C. Dvorak]

But you know, I hear people saying.

[Adam Curry]

In the shop, merry New Year's. Okay, I'm going with that. I'll go with that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Happy holidays. I don't want to offend everybody. Happy Holidays. Happy holidays.

[Adam Curry]

Did you say. Who was it that was. They just posted a video about Kwanzaa. It was a newsome.

[John C. Dvorak]

Whatever happened to Kwanzaa? Kwanzaa used to be great.

[Adam Curry]

They're pushing it.

[John C. Dvorak]

They're pushing the Kwanza on us again, John. Yeah, I didn't notice a lot of people celebrating Hanukkah this year.

[Adam Curry]

Horowitz did.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah, no, the Jews celebrate it, but they didn't post about it because it's not worth it.

[Adam Curry]

It's not worth the aggravation.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's not worth the aggravation, exactly.

[Adam Curry]

Actually, that's a good point. You're right. I didn't hear too many. It's usually Happy Hanukkah, Merry Christmas, and now they just dropped a Hanukkah.

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean, we, we had a menorah art that we didn't post out of fear. Out of fear for backlash.

[Adam Curry]

I don't know. It was out of fear for backlash, but it could have been. I blame Nick Fuentes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah, he's. He's definitely partially response. It's the punk rock podcasters, man. That's what they do. Rock against religion. Where. Look at us, we're so bold. I expect him to put a safety pin through his ear pretty soon. Like the old.

[Adam Curry]

I don't see that. I've been studying this guy. He's not to extol the virtues of Nick Fuentes. But I'll say this, I think he's a consummate pro. You can listen to him for three hours. He never flubs. He never says. He never says. I heard him say once. He never says. He never says. He doesn't stammer, he doesn't stutter. He doesn't stammer like I do. Well, if.

[John C. Dvorak]

If he can run the board, then there you go. I can retire you and Nick Fuentes can do the show.

[Adam Curry]

He uses an EV20 and knows how to use it correctly.

[John C. Dvorak]

He's got an EV20 and knows how to work.

[Adam Curry]

He knows how to work. Terrific voice. That's very understandable. He is unbelievably talented. He is. Again, I think he's the best podcaster in working right now, even though I think he's controversial.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wait a minute. How come we. We're best podcast in the universe.

[Adam Curry]

No, I'm talking about a individual, one of those guys who does the. The solos. Solo guy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Solo guy. Okay.

[Adam Curry]

No, it's the best podcast. We're the best podcast.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hello. Yes, he's.

[Adam Curry]

He has the best.

[John C. Dvorak]

He's the best soliloquist.

[Adam Curry]

He's really. It sounds unbelievable. He's a. He's a white. And he's not a white supremacist. He's a white pride. And I consider that different. But anyway, this is beside the point. He's also tricky.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, he's very tricky. He's the one that nobody can figure out. Everybody else kind of knows what these other folks are doing.

[Adam Curry]

I can figure this guy out by now.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, do you want to. Do you want to roll right into it or you want to do Africa? We have Africa news. We have so much Africa news, it hurts.

[Adam Curry]

I'm going to push the Flinties thing until we get. We'll go African news next. I have only. I could have put a presentation together. I have three clips just to show you how he operates, how he does his thing. He's so good right now. But I'll give it to give you a briefing right now. He has gone hard against J.D. vance.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, well, wait a minute. That's. That is what most people are shilling for in the North Sea Nexus Potter sphere.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

They all want JD to be the next president. You know, this is. Even if it hurts Trump. Jd.

[Adam Curry]

JD ok, well, he's hard against Vance, but he's going to prove his worth. He thinks or he hopes because he's going to go extremely hard in 2026 against Vivek Ramaswamy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Who cares?

[Adam Curry]

Well, he just wants to. He's testing himself with Vivek.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, do you want to do these clips or not?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I'm going to do the clips. I'm just trying to give you a briefing on the background. Because what happened was.

[John C. Dvorak]

Briefing on background.

[Adam Curry]

Briefing on beef on background. So he, He's. He called Vance's wife a jeet.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, man.

[Adam Curry]

Which I didn't even know what that meant. I had to look it up and do research.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's awesome. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

So he calls her a jeet. And so. So Vance comes out, out. And as Vice President of the United States tells him to eat. You could talk about your wife. No one really cares about your wife. No, wait, I have to set this clip.

[John C. Dvorak]

You. You gave me a clear audible.

[Adam Curry]

I said it in such a way that I could see you, but let me finish.

[John C. Dvorak]

How long have we been doing this?

[Adam Curry]

Too long. Yeah, and you are correct on that last cue. But he does. I'm going to give a three parter here. This is a classic Nick Fuentes part one. He starts you off by creating a doubt in your mind and then he does his long soliloquy and then he does a follow up, which is even better. This guy is slick. Here we go. You could talk about your wife. No one really cares about your wife. No one cares about any of that. We wanna know, are we getting an immigration moratorium? Will you restrain Israel? And what the fuck does Peter Thiel have on you? And what is your relationship with him and Elon? That's what we wanna know. You can save the bitching about your wife. No one cares about your wife, okay? She's pretty, she's gorgeous, your kids look great. Whatever. No one cares, okay? You did the tough guy shtick. You stood by your woman. Good for you. Now we want to know. And we want to know because this guy is being foisted upon us. I've never seen anything like this ever.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, you're only 12, so it doesn't surprise me, but.

[Adam Curry]

Well, he has seen this before and this is the key to his presentation. He starts off with what I would consider a false premise. To put a little piece of doubt in the mind and open the mind of the listener. So he can then rant at them because. But the way he describes it, he's never seen anyone just voice it on us, ever. Barack Obama come to mind? There's a guy who came out of. Out of nowhere. Next thing you know, he's President of the United States. That doesn't. That doesn't. Come to mind, Clinton came out of Arkansas out of the blue. He.

[John C. Dvorak]

He was. He was literally 12.

[Adam Curry]

Well, maybe was, but it doesn't. The. The point is that he sets you up.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, well, that.

[Adam Curry]

Well, because Hillary Clinton's another one out of the blue who hasn't come out of the blue. Except Reagan.

[John C. Dvorak]

But, John, this is. This is the perfect Zoomer Waffen rage bait, where you talk about Israel Palantir. You like. You like. You like Zoomerwaffen?

[Adam Curry]

I do.

[John C. Dvorak]

Thank you. The Zoomer Waffen.

[Adam Curry]

That is our new term, Zoomer Waffen.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. He is part of the Zuma Waffen.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, so he's opened. He's opened you up just a little bit. Just enough to do the. The rant, which. Which is the long part. This is like in the. In journalism, this would be the nut graph, only he makes it really long. And he. And he usually repeats things three times in different ways, much like a broadcaster, like a Jim Rome or anybody. He's very professional at this. Limbaugh used to do the same thing. I put him in that category, and here he goes. I've never seen anything like this, ever. First of all, this administration's not doing so hot. Let's get that straight. The war in Ukraine is still going on. The war in the Middle east is about to get started again. We don't have mass deportations. We don't have a wall. The economy's not going so great. Epstein, files just came out because Congress made you release them. And yet everyone is telling us already, you gotta vote for J.D. vance.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, timeout.

[Adam Curry]

This administration's not going well, and he's the vice president. We're not even a year in. They already want us voting in the next one. Like, think about how crazy that is. It's not even a year in. It is 2025 still, and they're already got us thinking, oh, we gotta vote in 28. 28. It's 2025.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, I'll be 14.

[Adam Curry]

And you suck. This administration sucks. So not only do you already want us thinking about the next one, this one isn't even going well. You think we're ready for more? We're not even finished with this. And this is a pile of shit we've been eating for a year, and they're ready to blow through any kind of a primary. Trump has been on the ballot three times. It's unprecedented in modern history that you have something like this. Trump was on the ballot in 16, 20, 24. 28 is the first Republican election since 2012 that Trump was not on the ballot. It should be wide open for us to decide where we're going to go after this. And not only are they telling us, well, you got to get ready to vote again in the next cycle. They're telling us a decision has been made already. Advance Turning Point is telling us. Tucker is telling us. Elon is telling us. Everyone is already telling us Vance is the guy. No one chills J.D. vance more than Tucker Carlson. And that's really weird. Turning Point, Erica has crowned Vance the next president.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

They've all crowned him next president.

[Adam Curry]

Who even is this guy?

[John C. Dvorak]

You're right. Not a single. Mmm or Ah.

[Adam Curry]

And. Oh, no, he'll never. He doesn't. He's unbelievable.

[John C. Dvorak]

And he just picks one. One topic. I mean, this is, you know, in a way, he's. He has a Limbaugh type quality to him, too.

[Adam Curry]

No, Limbaugh is definitely in the mix. He's. You know, I would throw him back to. I would say that if this guy was. If back in the day, he's like a. He's like a 50s Democrat in his mentality.

[John C. Dvorak]

Archie Bunker. Yes, he's Archie Bunker.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, but without. Without. With more with a Republican slant. Yeah, but it's like he has. He would have. He would have been Edward R. Murrow. I'm totally convinced of it. Yeah. And you'd have the Fuentes Awards. You'd be getting. Well, we had. Did you get. You're up for the Fuentes now? I didn't get a Fuentes this year.

[John C. Dvorak]

I got kind of spic name. Is that.

[Adam Curry]

So he has a. So he has the chops. And, and so. So he finishes. That was the nut graph. So he goes after the guy. And then. And then to top it, the little icing on the cake is at the end in this third part when he does these things in. In triples, which is the way to go. He. He just throws in some discrepant facts to confuse you further. They're all explainable, but the way he. Way he pieces them in. And this is the third and last clip, it's just, it's just a bunch of rando things that are just. Oh, yeah, there's something. There's something wrong here is. Here we go. Before he was vp, he was a senator for two years. Before that, he was a never Trumper. Before that, his name wasn't even Vance, it was Hamill. He didn't even start going by Vance until 2014. Who even is this guy? So not only do they want us to. Okay, this administration blows. Get Ready to vote for the next one. And we already have a nominee. Even though it's the first time in 16 years we're gonna have a wide open primary and it's gonna be this guy that no one even knows who he is. And if you don't like that, well, you're a problem to be eliminated. Which is effectively what they've told me.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's good. Yeah, it's entertaining.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, he's very entertaining. He's super entertaining.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And he's funny. He does bits, he does shtick.

[John C. Dvorak]

And the thing is, he's not wrong about Vance. He's not wrong about TP USA and Tucker and others. And yeah, he's exactly right about. Well, this was Peter Thiel's guy. And of course we know that Peter Thiel is responsible for killing us. I mean, that's obvious. You know, Palantir, Palantir, Gaza, killing people. Even though we know how weak Palantir really is. Stuff didn't really work.

[Adam Curry]

The next sea, the North Sea Nexus down.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, he needs that. He needs that.

[Adam Curry]

He's got it. He's got a kind of a slickness to him and that and professionalism that is so high end that it's as though he had some train somebody trained him for. Somebody had to have trained him.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't think so. I don't think so.

[Adam Curry]

I don't know. You can be a natural and I've seen it, but this guy's over the top when it comes to if it's. If he's natural. Anyway, definitely people should check him out.

[John C. Dvorak]

Luckily, the, the Algos picked up a new hero on the scene, which I hope you saw it because you know, your algorithm on X is probably still crazy Women.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. And now I'm getting a lot of cooking videos.

[John C. Dvorak]

Cheese. Just put some cheese. Oh, look at that. Nice melted cheese. Everything I've got fudge.

[Adam Curry]

You know, I'm beginning to think these are done by the Dairy Council.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, we have a new hero, Nick Shirley. Nick Shirley was dominating the Algos, for me at least and for Tina and for other people. Like, hey, have you seen this guy? Nick Shirley goes around, has been going around Minneapolis to all of the child care and health care facilities run by Somalians who are.

[Adam Curry]

Nick Shirley's not a new actor. He's been doing this sort of thing for quite a while.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's not what I said. I said we have a new hero. He's a new hero. He's a new hero. Here's, here's.

[Adam Curry]

You know, I. It's funny you say this because who, who, who just told me about Nick Shirley. The same way you're like doing now to the audience, my wife Mimi calls. Have you ever seen this guy, Nick Shirley?

[John C. Dvorak]

So it's like, yes, yes, he's a hero.

[Adam Curry]

A list of the healthcare companies, loads of them right here. We want healthcare. Yes, we'd like to speak about getting healthcare here. No, no, no, no. Why can't I get healthcare here? This is the strangest place I've ever been to get healthcare. Just a bunch of different places. Healthcare here. Healthcare right here. Another healthcare company right here. There are three healthcare companies. Companies inside of this building. Right here in this room of 7C. Now we have another Helping Hands Home Care LLC. Another healthcare company present. Help right here. We're looking for the best rates of health care here inside this building because.

[John C. Dvorak]

We have so many options.

[Adam Curry]

Who can we talk about getting the best health care? I don't know. No, sorry. All right. We will not get any health care here. David. This is one of the stranger places I've ever been, literally. Healthcare. Every door you go to, yet nobody will give you a rate. How much money you think has been funneled through this building every year?

[John C. Dvorak]

I would say 50 to 60 million at least. This is what you wanted. No one's talking about this. And of course, the mainstream media is still not talking about it.

[Adam Curry]

It's astonishing to me that the mainstream media has avoided this topic like the plague.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, because it will make so many Democrats look bad. That's the only thing I can come up with. I don't see any other reason for the. Besides the fact that Trump, whatever.

[Adam Curry]

Trump.

[John C. Dvorak]

The quad screens are all Trump and Zelensky this morning. I have. I have clips.

[Adam Curry]

I'm getting close to my. I'm going to be able to do Zelensky.

[John C. Dvorak]

Really? You want to give it a shot? You want to give it a shot?

[Adam Curry]

No, I know, because it's one of those things that's funny about trying to do voices. You do the same thing with your. Is that you need a trigger.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

And it's. And the. My trigger is a phrase that. I lost a copy of it. I lost it.

[John C. Dvorak]

What's the phrase that pays, John?

[Adam Curry]

I can't remember. If I remember. If I hear it, I can do it. I'll go and go right into it. But I can't. So it's coming. It's coming for the 2026 season.

[John C. Dvorak]

So I have a couple of different outlets regarding the strike on Nigeria. All of them get one thing right. None of them have the full story, which is, I mean, not really surprising, of course. Let's start with the BBC. President Trump has been making some bold claims following the Christmas Day strikes he ordered against the Islamic State group in northwest Nigeria. Like the attacks on Iran's nuclear sites earlier this year. Mr. Trump has declared that the US military has decimated its targets. In this case, is camps. It's not yet clear how many people were killed, but US And Nigerian officials. Officials said that fighters were among the dead. The Nigerians said that there were no civilian casualties. Mr. Trump told the Politico news website that the operation, which was agreed with the Nigerian military, was planned for Wednesday. But he chose to delay by a day so he could give the IS fighters a Christmas present.

[Adam Curry]

As he put it.

[John C. Dvorak]

I love the Christmas present line. Here's NBC. Oh, Nat Pops. Yeah, See BBC, you're boring. You gotta spice it up. You gotta get missile launches. You gotta get war sounds. Your reports are no good.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

Tonight, the first images of American missiles launching from a US Navy ship, killing multiple Islamist militants in Nigeria, according to the president, who posted about the surprise Christmas Day attack after repeatedly warning terror groups that if the slaughter of Christians did not stop, there would be hell to pay.

[John C. Dvorak]

And I'm going to jump into that one particular little psyop in a moment.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

Nigeria's government now confirming it worked directly with the United States to carry out the mission. But the foreign minister also pushing back against President Trump's claim that Christians alone are being targeted by the Islamic State.

[Adam Curry]

This is not about religion. It is about Nigerians, innocent civilians and the wider region as a whole.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

The strikes come just one day after the president thanked US Troops on Christmas Eve for last week's attack against ISIS in Syria.

[Adam Curry]

It was a big attack and you really did a big job. I know you will continue to show no mercy. You can't show mercy because they show no mercy to us.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

In recent weeks, the US Military has launched strikes against ISIS targets in Nigeria, Syria and Somalia seized oil tankers off Venezuela and earlier this year hit Iranian Revolutionary Guard positions inside Iran. Back in Florida, President Trump is expected to host President Volodymyr Zelensky on Sunday. The Ukrainian leader announcing today the two will discuss security guarantees and saying a U. S Negotiated peace deal with Russia is now 90% ready, even as the Kremlin continues to hammer Ukraine, launching new strikes through Christmas.

[John C. Dvorak]

So every report was like this. Every single report was like, well, Trump said it was Christians. The Nigerians said it's not. But they all missed what's really going on here. So first, the psyop. This has been going on for well over a year, maybe longer. Oh, they're, they're killing Christians in Nigeria. They're killing Christians in Nigeria. I obviously was interested. And when you go and look, yeah, they're actually killing more Muslims than Christians in Nigeria, these so called ISIS fighters. But when I saw the news of the strikes. Let me see the northwest. Do you just off the top of your head, do you know where Boko Haram operates?

[Adam Curry]

The northeast.

[John C. Dvorak]

The northeast, exactly. So why is he shooting missiles at the northwest? Well, the answer came to us with the gold price on Friday, which skyrocketed along with silver. But also you might want to take a look at lithium. What was bombed or what was targeted, whatever you want to call it, were the rebel groups who are protecting the illegal mining operations. Nigeria themselves hate this because they're losing out on probably $10 billion a year easy on mining of gold and lithium. And who do you think buys all that gold and lithium? China. This is a move against China. This is a move against the rare earths. There's a whole bunch of benefits. One Christians go, yeah, Trump. I'm sorry to tell you, fellow brothers and sisters, that's not the primary reason for this attack, if the reason at all. This is only about minerals and natural resources that Nigeria has that China is getting on the cheap. It's, it's, it's to cut them off. That's all that it is. Complete gold mining. And lithium, big on lithium. And I'm not quite sure exactly how silver fits into it, but you know, silver has been kind of manipulated for 40, 50 years, I guess, but that's what happened. And you saw the spike in price right away. So none of this has. And no one's talking about it. I don't understand. Are they all working for China? They don't want to say it.

[Adam Curry]

I think there is an element of that, now that you mention it, there are some Chinese influencers and in the media, there's no doubt about that. And I will say this. I watched Al Jazeera's report on this.

[John C. Dvorak]

Do you have a clip?

[Adam Curry]

And they said they did not. Then they had three. Three guys. Three. One guy, one guy from the Council on Foreign Relations, all black guys from Africa and all experts. And they were pretty good. And they said, no, it's bull credit. This is religious. He says. And the reason they're killing all the Muslims and the Christians and anybody else is because it's a Islamist group to two parts of the country, these Islamists mostly, and that's that. And it's not to say it's not religious, as is bull crap. They also said that the Nigerian people were happy that the United States got involved and started bombing the place because. And the government thought it was great and the government invited them to do it. So that kind of flies in the face of what everyone might want to think, but I think you're totally correct. Totally. Hello.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hello. He said it. What happened. You can't argue.

[Adam Curry]

That's what we do. And any chance we have to cut China off at the knees, even though Trump doesn't get a lot of credit for it from any. From any corner. No, it's always a good thing.

[John C. Dvorak]

And there was a second shoe that dropped on this. Hold on a second. I have it here. Where was it? No, I'll find that. Hold on. Let me just listen to cbs. Let's see what they had to say. Do they have a nat Pop? The US Military fired more than a dozen Tomahawk cruise missiles at ICE ISIS targets in Nigeria. And the timing. And why are they even calling him isis? I mean, isn't that supposed to be in the savant?

[Adam Curry]

I have no idea.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is just branding. For some reason. It's just.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, just calling.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, branding. The US Military fired more than a dozen Tomahawk cruise missiles at ISIS targets in Nigeria. And the timing was deliberate. President Trump told a radio interviewer.

[Adam Curry]

They said, hit him on Christmas Day. It'll be a Christmas present. We hit isis who are terrible. They're butchers.

[John C. Dvorak]

People could be seen carrying debris away from one target site. The Pentagon's initial assessment indicated multiple ISIS militants were killed. Trump warned last month the US Would.

[Adam Curry]

Go into Nigeria with guns a blazing.

[John C. Dvorak]

If the government failed to protect Christians from ISIS attacks.

[Adam Curry]

They're killing the Christians and killing them in very large numbers.

[John C. Dvorak]

Not going to allow that to happen. But Nigeria denied those activities accusations. So far this year, nearly 12,000 people have been killed. CBS News national security contributor Sam Vinograd.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

Violence by insurgent groups, criminals and others in Nigeria doesn't just target Christians. It also targets Muslims. And where and when these strikes occur.

[Adam Curry]

Will certainly be scrutinized by analysts to.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

See who exactly is hit and whether the violence stops.

[John C. Dvorak]

Nigeria's foreign minister said his government provided the US Military with intelligence before the strikes.

[Adam Curry]

We have been working closely with the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Americans, with other countries to combat terrorism.

[Adam Curry]

To stop the death of innocent Nigerians.

[John C. Dvorak]

Both the US and Nigeria have signaled more strikes could follow. All right, so it's like a three fur. You know, you get one, you get the Christians are happy. Yeah. I'm telling you, Christian broadcast news, you know, all of the Christian news outlets all have. They're all jacked, all jacked about this. And I'm just saying.

[Adam Curry]

No, I'm sorry for. Give me your three for and I add one to it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, so the next one is screw China out of the, out of their resources, which they are not obtaining in a good way. I mean they are in effect sponsoring these groups and these group. And for these groups kidnapping girls, which really happens more in the northeast, but they've kidnapped people from churches and from schools in the Northwest. It's a business model. It's been that way for decades. Yeah, let's see. Anyone of any value there? Okay, we're going to kidnap and get some money. So that's your two for. The three for is the gold price, which I think benefits the whole stablecoin strategy which is supposedly going to start around the second week of January and I think maybe a fourth. Am I three or four yet?

[Adam Curry]

I'm at four, you're at three.

[John C. Dvorak]

So somehow silver, the silver thing is funny because it completely screws everything, particularly solar panels. EVs, the cheap EVs from China I saw like the prices in the US were $79 at close on Friday, but in Shanghai, $85. They're so desperate and everyone's trying to get silver all of a sudden. Do you have any, any view on that?

[Adam Curry]

No, not at all. But I'll tell you, the other little extra bonus is by sending those missiles into that area, they get to soften up the soil a little bit, make.

[John C. Dvorak]

It easier to better mining, easier to mine.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, that's two extra missiles right here.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[Adam Curry]

It's cheap. It's, you know, it costs more than dynamite, but it's at the US Taxpayer's expense.

[John C. Dvorak]

But the lithium, you know, watch the lithium prices. So it's, it's, it's an interesting time. There's a lot of interesting things happening, but no one is reporting on it properly.

[Adam Curry]

It's almost like the, they're not even reporting in. The Somali scammers in Minnesota. They don't report on anything. The media is shot.

[John C. Dvorak]

So I tried really hard looking for, let me see, where do I have it here. Looking for anything about the redacted documents from the Epstein files. And as far as I could tell, I could not find a single M5M resource or news report that gave us this. This is just a 30 second YouTuber telling us.

[Adam Curry]

I'[e-mail] where all the Epstein files are being held, and there's a lot of different files that have been redacted. So you can go ahead and scrol. Scroll down until you get to a redacted area.

[John C. Dvorak]

Here's a redacted area right here.

[Adam Curry]

Guess what? If you want to look at these files, all you got to do is copy it and paste it into Microsoft Word. And guess what? All the files are unredacted. There it is.

[John C. Dvorak]

So go back to justice.org, find all.

[Adam Curry]

Those files, and start unredacting before they figure out how to stop you.

[John C. Dvorak]

So no one is reporting on that. And it works.

[Adam Curry]

It's been reported on fox. I heard it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, you did? Well, I have a feeling we still have a number of these reporters who are part of the agency, and they're not allowed to look at these documents.

[Adam Curry]

I think you're dead on again.

[John C. Dvorak]

What is going on here?

[Adam Curry]

Totally.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's Christmas after Christmas, so.

[Adam Curry]

So here, dude, this. We got into a conversation at the dinner table about this. You know, everybody's an expert. So JC says, well, it's because they were they. Because when the DOGE guys came in, they fired a bunch of people and they. And they. They cancel a bunch of software licenses. This is a. This would be the gossip mill. They cancel a bunch of software licenses and started using the free Adobe Acrobat instead of the one you pay for.

[John C. Dvorak]

I like that theory.

[Adam Curry]

Which doesn't redact properly.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I like that.

[Adam Curry]

My comeback to that was. And everybody. Nobody could argue against it, which is you. So you don't think they did this on purpose?

[John C. Dvorak]

Boom. Exactly. I think you're right. Of course they did this on purpose.

[Adam Curry]

Of course.

[John C. Dvorak]

That was the whole point. Absolutely. Everyone's like, they're so stupid. No, they're not.

[Adam Curry]

I know. They're so stupid.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, they're not.

[Adam Curry]

They're so stupid. It's the way to play it.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's perfect.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

And you get all kinds of extra info and extra ditties that show up, and.

[Adam Curry]

And most of them are useless, by the way. And stuff that I've seen unredacted is junk.

[John C. Dvorak]

And then my favorite story, more than 1 million files.

[Adam Curry]

More files potentially related to dead pedophile Jeffrey Epstein have just surfaced. According to the Justice Department, they.

[John C. Dvorak]

I loved the. The term dead pedophile. Somehow the Justice. It's just the dead pedophile.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, I didn't pick up on that.

[John C. Dvorak]

It used to be financier. Now it's the dead pedophile related to.

[Adam Curry]

Dead pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. Have just surfaced according to Justice Department. They say the new trove originating from the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York and the FBI, may take, quote, a few more weeks to comb through and release to the public as the department scrambles to find more volunteer prosecutors over the holidays to help redact the newly discovered files. Now remember, by law, the Justice Department was supposed to release everything it had a week ago today. So far we've seen tens of thousands of documents over a few sporadic releases. Releases including pictures of former President Bill Clinton, emails that mention Donald Trump's. President Donald Trump's name on the Epstein jet flight log, and an FBI email exchange that indicates there are 10 other co conspirators. President Trump weighed in with another stem winding Christmas tirade, saying he quote, was actually the only one who did drop Epstein and long before it became fashionable to do so. So Trump added, the Democrats and some Republicans who push for the release will see their, quote, friends, mostly innocent, will be badly hurt and reputationally tarnished. He then signed off with enjoy what may be your last Merry Christmas. Starting off. I'm sorry, that's just a very interesting way to end that.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, he means it. Hello, idiots. Yes, absolutely. And these new documents, I have a feeling they'll also be copyable. Just, you know, I like JC's theory. That's. It's cute. Well, they didn't want to pay for the. They just use the free Adobe version. Yeah, that's not how government works at all. They pay the extra super premium plus.

[Adam Curry]

They do and I gotta pay for. Throw money away.

[John C. Dvorak]

This was uncovered though. I did. I didn't hear about this. This is from the Canadian Broadcast News.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

Two years after Canadian Peter Nygaard was.

[John C. Dvorak]

Convicted of on four counts of sexual.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

Assault, the former fashion mogul is making headlines again. Named in documents released by American officials as it discloses more files related to Jeffrey Epstein. Peter Nygaard's name appeared in an April 2020 letter sent by the Department of Justice to authorities in the UK seeking to interview the man previously known as Prince Andrew. The letter reads in part, the investigation has revealed that on at least one occasion, Prince Andrew traveled to Nygard Key in the Bahamas.

[John C. Dvorak]

Nygard Key? See, this guy had his own island. This gets interesting.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

A location where NYGARD is believed to have trafficked minor and adult female victims. I've canceled over around 50 survivors of Peter Nygard in the last five years and, and some of them had certainly mentioned seeing him seeing the former Prince Andrew at Nygard Key in the Bahamas.

[John C. Dvorak]

So I wasn't surprised.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

Two other Canadian women appear in FBI intake documents accused of grooming potential victims, though not by name. Identified only as a Serbian Canadian lingerie model and a French Canadian aspiring model.

[Adam Curry]

Any piece of evidence has to be confirmed. You can't assume it to be true. You can't. We don't have a conclusion, for instance, that the President was involved directly in Epstein's crimes, but there's suspicion, and that's how investigations work.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

The latest release of 30,000 documents, the most voluminous to date, contained many mentions of the US President, but did not link Trump to any of Epstein's crimes.

[John C. Dvorak]

No. So does it. We'll start with that guy who actually has been convicted, had had his own island. Prince Andrew was at his island. But it's Trump. Let's go back to Trump.

[Adam Curry]

Trump. Trump. Trump.

[John C. Dvorak]

Meanwhile, there's actual work being done on actual pedophiles. Evening, everybody.

[Adam Curry]

I'm RUP Raj. We begin with a disturbing case involving prominent metro Detroit professionals arrested on child pornography charges. They include a Detroit area doctor and attorney who are both in federal court today. Let's get live the Fox News. Charlie Langton in Detroit with the new details. And Charlie, I think you said it in the tease. Some of these details are so sickening.

[John C. Dvorak]

So gross, they're hard to even repeat. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

In fact, I can't even say some of this stuff on television. I'm holding up three of the criminal complaints against three very prominent. A doctor, a lawyer, and a psychotherapist, all from the metro Detroit. Why am I yelling?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, why not?

[Adam Curry]

But they got caught up in an FBI sting that actually got them arrested in Toledo. And what they found when they raided their houses, 155 images of child porn, including movies and pictures of the most disgusting things that you really can think of. And there may very well be more. Now, two of the three were in court. Hold on a second. You know that little neuro linguistic programming, the thing you just heard?

[John C. Dvorak]

Which one?

[Adam Curry]

They're made very well.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah. Well, there's some.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, but it's not. That's not what he was saying is this. Is there. There may be very. There may be. Well, there may be, yes. I mean, he. But it's. What you heard was they may.

[John C. Dvorak]

They.

[Adam Curry]

They. They were made well.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, let me listen again.

[Adam Curry]

Things that you really can think of, and they're made very well.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, I see. You're thinking high quality.

[Adam Curry]

High quality is what he's saying. That's the neuro linguistic programming message.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow.

[Adam Curry]

More now. Two of the three were in court today. In federal court behind me for what's called a detention hearing, meaning that the feds thought these people were so bad they should be denied bond. One of them said, okay, I'll stay in jail. The other one said, let's have a hearing. The judge said, no, you're staying in jail. Why? In part because some of the bad.

[John C. Dvorak]

Stuff that came out and this is. And I'm really playing this just to make the point that everyone yelling about Epstein, they don't really care about the kids. They just care about Trump or, you know, whoever's being blackmailed. They don't actually care about what's actually happening to toddlers. Toddlers.

[Adam Curry]

According to the criminal complaint, encrypted phone messages showed 45 year old Joshua Ronenbaum was an English teacher in Japan who invited 10 and 12 year olds to get naked with him and play with their. Well, you get the message. The FBI seized his phone which showed 155 images including a toddler being sexually molested by an adult man and numerous conversations discussing his sexual interest in children.

[John C. Dvorak]

And then Jeremy Brian Takom, 51 years old, who lived at the same Palmer.

[Adam Curry]

Woods address with Rona bomb. The FBI seized his phone that contained an exchange with an undercover agent.

[John C. Dvorak]

Something like this.

[Adam Curry]

Wish we could find a kiddo and have our way. Take him to a motel and molest him.

[John C. Dvorak]

F yo brother.

[Adam Curry]

Are you free tomorrow? Any more clips? Six additional clips were sent showing an adult man sexually assaulting a toddler. And Finally, Lincoln Erickson. Dr. Erickson is a medical doctor who lives in Farmington Hills. The complaint indicates that he's currently on probation for domestic violence for an incident in 2024. His phone indicates he discussed plans to travel to Thailand to sexually abuse children.

[John C. Dvorak]

And the d details about his friend.

[Adam Curry]

Who is a father to a three year old who Erickson allegedly sexually abused, forcing the three year old to perform a sex act.

[John C. Dvorak]

Where is the outrage? There's no outrage over this.

[Adam Curry]

Where's the story? I never heard any of this.

[John C. Dvorak]

Just came out. Yeah, no, because it's all bull crap, people. Pedophile. You don't care. You just are sucked up into a swirling pool of poop of innuendo and qanon. Because it was really Q that started this, if I recall. And it was the Democrats. It was all Democrats. And they were sending kids in Wayfair boxes and Kids, kids, kids. Everything.

[Adam Curry]

Kids, kids in Wayfarers. That's right. Yeah, I forgot about that one.

[John C. Dvorak]

But when actual horrible crime. And these guys should be killed, right? Or just did you do it yet? Dead. Dead. No, I have no problem saying that. But. No, that's, that's not the game. Israel.

[Adam Curry]

What happened to nambla?

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, they're probably still around.

[Adam Curry]

Nope, I, I haven't checked. I looked them up. No, they folded.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, they did?

[Adam Curry]

Yep.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, then you know, Then you know what happened.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, they became Democrat Party members. I'm sorry. That's the best I can do.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right, I'm gonna, I'm gonna do one little quick series here just because I predicted it. However, he hasn't quite said the phrase yet, but we knew they were coming.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

The president saying the collection of ships is called the Golden Fleet and will become the, quote, flagship of the American naval fleet. Now, the Navy has created a website named after the fleet. It gives people the opportunity to look at specs of the ship.

[Adam Curry]

Ships. As you know, we're desperately in need of ships. Our ships are. Some of them have gotten old and tired and obsolete and we're going to go the exact opposite direction.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

The website states the ships will be up to 880ft long, reach over 30 knots, and require a crew of anywhere from 650 to 850 people. The ships will also have hypersonic weapons, state of the art electric rail guns and high powered lasers. US Senator Mark Warren says he disagrees with the project.

[Adam Curry]

The one thing the Navy had decided, it didn't need more big ships because of the threats from drones. It needed more small, mobile, faster, deployable ships.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

Some Navy officials have estimated the first ship will cost $10 billion to design and build. It's a price tag. Retired Navy admiral and founder of the National Security Leaders for America Michael Smith tells 13News now the Navy can't afford.

[John C. Dvorak]

I just don't know how he's going to be able to, to pay for it.

[Adam Curry]

I think if, if the first part.

[John C. Dvorak]

Of that sentence has, was I'm committed.

[Adam Curry]

To doubling the Navy's budget and delivering.

[John C. Dvorak]

The Golden Fleet, I think that would have been a realistic first statement to make.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

The president has also told reporters he expects the first ships to be built in the next two and a half years. Smith also calls that timeline unrealistic.

[John C. Dvorak]

My concern is with this president, you have to deliver in the time he's saying.

[Adam Curry]

And so there are going to be.

[John C. Dvorak]

So many mistakes made. No, no, it's not about mistakes. It's about one big, huge, corrupt business known as the military industrial complex, who somehow the lawmakers and money spenders who hold the purse strings decided to give even more to the military industrial complex than President Trump even wanted. So it's now up to just shy of a trillion dollars. But here is what the President also said, which of course didn't make the news.

[Adam Curry]

We'll be discussing the, the pay to executives where they're making 45 and $50 million a year and not being able to build quickly. They're going to make that kind of money. They have to build quickly again. We make the best equipment in the world, but they don't make them fast enough. And we're going to be also discussing dividends. We want the dividends to go into the creation of production facilities. So we'll be talking about all capex dividends and the pay. We're also going to be talking about buybacks. They spend so much money on buybacks. They want to buy back their stock. I don't want them to buy back their stock. I want them to put the money in plant and equipment so they can build, build these planes fast, rapidly, like immediately.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, exactly. Stop with your buyback, stop enriching people like yourselves and get down to business.

[Adam Curry]

There was a substacker that's ex spook. He went on about this.

[John C. Dvorak]

Isn't that an oxymoron?

[Adam Curry]

Substacker and spooky, maybe close to it. And he made the assertion that they're just, they've decided, just not, they're not going to do any of this. They're going to keep pocketing the money as best they can and they're going to just wait out Trump's three years and they're not going to build one ship. You're never going to see a ship out of this deal.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, we'll see. You know, he's doing the same with the insurance companies. He had another stand up with all the drug manufacturers. Going to make them cheap, going to make them cheaper. It'll be cheaper for us, but it won't be $88. But I guess it's going to have to even out between other countries. But then another thing that wasn't really discussed was this.

[Adam Curry]

I'm going to call a meeting. It could be in Florida this coming week or it could be back in the White House the first week, not the second or third week. I'm going to call a meeting of the big insurance companies that have gotten so rich by receiving money and really much, far, far more money than they're entitled to. And I have a feeling maybe if they would act like these incredible, brilliant, responsible citizens behind me, people that love our country and they love the world, I mean frankly, they love. These are international companies for the Most part, I'm going to call a meeting of the insurance companies. I'm going to see if they get their price down, to put it very bluntly. And I think that is a very big statement. And what happened here is the biggest statement of all, because nobody thought a thing like this was possible.

[John C. Dvorak]

So where are all the Luigi fans? Yeah, this is great. This is what Luigi's going to jail for. No, no, Nick Fuentes is great, Candace. She's just asking questions.

[Adam Curry]

That's the best part. Yeah, just. Just asking questions.

[John C. Dvorak]

Questions. No. Zoomerwaffen, you are welcome. Here at the no Agenda show, we'll help you understand what's really going on in your world. The information is out there. You're just being lured away by shiny objects, trinkets, to go and watch something else.

[Adam Curry]

And. And that something else, in the two instances you mentioned, Fumentes and Owens, they're long talkers.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

Those are hours and hours a day. It's unbelievable. You can really chew up a lot of your time.

[John C. Dvorak]

But again, it's the clips. It's all about the clips. I don't think I've ever watched the full Fuentes episode, but I mean, is he on YouTube only? I don't know.

[Adam Curry]

No, no. Rumble, rumble.

[John C. Dvorak]

But I see, I see the clips. Oh, there's.

[Adam Curry]

You know, that's funny because I've never seen. I've only watched full episodes. I've never seen the clips. I watched the full episodes to look for the. Or the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it's not there. It's not there.

[Adam Curry]

Not there. It's just. It's just unbelievable. It's horrifying how good he is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. So that's why I call on the Zuma Waffen, you are good here. Here. We'll take care of you. Don't worry. This is where you want to be. Listen to your uncles. You can learn something.

[Adam Curry]

Now let's play. I have a couple series here that are kind of interesting. They're going out of their way, it seems the powers that be in this case npr, to start trying to reconstruct in advance of Trump getting kicked out or. Or Trump three years from now or whenever, is to rebuild usaid.

[John C. Dvorak]

Because weren't they getting money from USAID as well? I'm sure there's some backdoor from USAID to npi.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, absolutely. It has to be. Yeah. But the USAID is a money laundering operation. A worldwide money laundering operation for everybody, for the intelligence agencies, for all kinds of stuff. Mainly.

[John C. Dvorak]

Mainly. And then ghostly the NGOs to the.

[Adam Curry]

NGOs God knows what they.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's where, that's where the laundering takes place. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

So they're going to go out of their way now, NPR to, to, to try to turn the ship around and show what a bad idea this was and everything in between. And here we go with the usaid.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wait, before we start, have we seen any Is Africa now dead of aids?

[Adam Curry]

Well, according to this report, yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, I'm sorry. I stand corrected. Been a cataclysmic year in global. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. You keep doing this.

[Adam Curry]

I have a code. See NPR SS.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, well, all right, you have a good point there. I didn't recognize the code.

[Adam Curry]

Suffer and succotash.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm Scott. Simon. It's been a cataclysmic year in global hell.

[Adam Curry]

In January, the Trump administration.

[John C. Dvorak]

Did he say in global hell?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, this is the, this is the leverage they're going to use to promote usaid.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wait, Global health or global hell? It sounded like he said global health.

[Adam Curry]

He says it fine. Yeah, he screws it up. You're right.

[John C. Dvorak]

Global hell. It's been a cataclysmic year in global hell.

[Adam Curry]

In January, the Trump administration.

[John C. Dvorak]

He says hell. He says hell. I heard year in global hell.

[Adam Curry]

In January, the Trump administration froze billions.

[John C. Dvorak]

Of dollars in foreign assistance funds, then it dismantled the United States Agency for International Development. These actions had ripple effects all around the world and changed how the US Approaches foreign aid. NPR global health correspondent Fatima Tanis has.

[Adam Curry]

Been covering the story for the past.

[John C. Dvorak]

Year, joins us in our studio. Svatma, thanks so much for being with us.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

Thanks for having me. So, Scott.

[John C. Dvorak]

Take us back to the beginning of 2025.

[Adam Curry]

How did the shakeup to USAID programs begin?

[Various Reporters/Guests]

Well, it was really chaotic.

[John C. Dvorak]

He switches here to usaid. I love that.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, I missed it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well done. Oh, yes. Oh, yeah. USAID, USAID. Take us back to the beginning of 2025.

[Adam Curry]

How did this shake up to USAID programs? Because.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

Well, it was really chaotic, Scott. Hundreds of agency staff were put on leave. The USAID website was taken down in the middle of the night on a Saturday. Thousands of programs that provided critical health services and poverty solutions and more were terminated. And this all happened within a matter of a few weeks.

[Adam Curry]

And what did the administration do?

[John C. Dvorak]

Hey, what are poverty solutions? I like that. Poverty solutions.

[Adam Curry]

Poverty solution.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's great.

[Adam Curry]

Alcohol.

[John C. Dvorak]

Poverty solutions. I'd like to be in charge of that department.

[Adam Curry]

That was the end of that clip.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it ended funny, but that was the end of the clip.

[Adam Curry]

It did end funny. There was something I did Wrong. Okay, well, let's go on to clip two. And why did the administration do that?

[Various Reporters/Guests]

You know, foreign aid has historically had bipartisan.

[Adam Curry]

That's right.

[John C. Dvorak]

You need to say something.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. He brings it. What did the administration. It was a funny ending. It didn't make any sense. And he drops it in. He says, what did the administration do? She never really says. When he asks it again. That's a very screwy report. I'm sorry. I could have done a better job of segueing. It played on. And why did the administration do that?

[Various Reporters/Guests]

You know, foreign aid has historically had bipartisan support. It saves lives and has been generally seen as saved or created for America to wield influence and build goodwill. But the Trump administration saw it differently, that the way America was doing foreign aid was ineffective and wasteful. USAID in particular was viewed as far left and irredeemable. Its programs that provided support for LGBTQ people or reproductive health and climate solutions were seen as part of a woke.

[John C. Dvorak]

Whoa. She just did a woke lineup of epic proportion. I just need to hear that again.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

Redeemable. It's programs that provided support for LGBTQ people.

[John C. Dvorak]

Support for LGBTQ people or reproductive health. Reproductive health. Read abortions.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

And climate solutions.

[John C. Dvorak]

And climate solutions, which I think is part of poverty solutions. This is wonderful.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, it's illiquid.

[John C. Dvorak]

Great.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

Seen as part of a woke agenda that taxpayers shouldn't be funding. Here's Max Primerak with the conservative Heritage Foundation. He previously held several senior roles at usaid.

[Adam Curry]

A lot of the aid programs that we were doing were not always tied to our foreign policy objectives. And by subsuming the aid agencies, you can better align with our national interests and also with our values.

[John C. Dvorak]

Spooked.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

So the administration shut down USAID and moved a handful of the parts they wanted to keep, like humanitarian relief and a few hundred staff under the State Department.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let's talk about the effects. Secretary of State Rubio said in May that no one died as a result of the cuts. Is that true?

[Various Reporters/Guests]

Unfortunately, no. NPR interviewed a mother in Nigeria. Her son had sickle cell anemia and he began running a fever. But the clinic that they usually went to, funded by usai, had been closed and the boy died the next day.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, so tell me she has a few more examples than one boy with sickle cell.

[Adam Curry]

Amenia, she's got another example. But this. This when that example in Nigeria. In Nigeria, because of the cruelty. This is, by the way, a big theme for Trump. They like to use the word cruel, crazy cruel. The cruelty of Trump has resulted in A boy in Nigeria. By the way, there are homeless all over San Francisco. They're dropping dead in the streets in Los Angeles. We have shootings in Oakland. But there's a boy in Nigeria who died because of Trump's cruelty.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. Wow. Troll room. I want to see the death certificate. We want proof.

[Adam Curry]

The funny thing that the troll room brought up, it actually may be bull crap.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

And the.

[Adam Curry]

She has another example coming up.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

And the boy died the next day. A doctor who treated the child before said he would have likely survived if he had received care. We also know that many people lost access to drugs that treated diseases like hiv, aids. And in countries torn by conflict, many malnourished children lost access to therapeutic, protein filled foods. But we don't know the full scale lives lost. And that's because aid groups are no longer on the ground able to track what's going on.

[John C. Dvorak]

You went to Uganda to report on how people there were trying to live with the cuts. What did you see? Well, the LGBTQ people are in trouble, of course.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

Yeah. I was there in August, and, you know, locals and officials were still grappling with the ripple effects, not just on healthcare, but local economies too, because so many people lost their jobs with aid groups. In one rural area in southwest Uganda, we learned that There were only four ambulances for the 200,000 people who lived there, compared to eight ambulances before. And that's because the US was funding the drivers and the fuel for those ambulances.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, what. America first people. Where's my America first people? Cheering on the nonsense that we were funding.

[Adam Curry]

So. So they were. It was our fault, the cruelty of Trump, that four ambulances in Uganda are no longer. No. No longer have. Their ambulances must still be there. They didn't dissolve. But there's four ambulances there. But they don't have a driver because nobody can afford to pay the driver and they can't afford the fuel without our. Without US Taxpayers money does this our country.

[John C. Dvorak]

I need to reiterate that the international arms dealer, my friend here in Fredericksburg, that he has an ongoing pipeline of C130 aircraft that the US government sells to Uganda. They're not cheap, certainly a couple of ambulances worth. And they. And he has to keep supplying them because they all learn how tofly on U2 YouTube. So how is it our fault? It's true. It's true. They keep crashing into hangars and stuff. Oh, I learned how to fly on YouTube. Yeah. But no, no, no, no. It's the. It's Trump's cruelty that stopped that. They only have four ambulances. It's their own decisions that they're making to buy aircraft and trade their pilots on YouTube tube.

[Adam Curry]

So it's Trump's fault. Yada, yada yada. So the usa, I think this was there. Another clip left.

[John C. Dvorak]

Fourth clip.

[Adam Curry]

Fourth clip. Yeah, it wraps it.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

It's just one example of how thorough and extensive USAID used to be.

[John C. Dvorak]

So thought she did it. Let's hear that again.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

It's just one example of how thorough and extensive USAID used to be.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's so thorough and extensive. How many hundreds of billions of dollars did we stop flow usaid? I can't remember the number.

[Adam Curry]

It's a big number.

[John C. Dvorak]

A big number. So Fatima, what's the future of US foreign aid look like?

[Various Reporters/Guests]

It's looking different. Instead of funding aid organizations to do health work around the world, the administration is now working directly with governments and faith based groups. Their focus so far has been on Africa. The State Department announced several agreements with nine African countries in total. The US is going to be investing, investing 8 billion in the health sectors of those countries to help fight diseases. And those governments are expected to chip in as well. As part of the deal, the US Wants more opportunities for American businesses and access to minerals. Now, global health experts are cautioning that in the year ahead, the challenge is going to be doing more with less as millions of lives could be on the line.

[John C. Dvorak]

Npr, Svatmatanis, thanks so much.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

Thank you.

[John C. Dvorak]

Thanks so much.

[Adam Curry]

Millions of lives.

[John C. Dvorak]

Millions of lives. Well, Rubio came out and said, he said we're not going to fund NGOs anymore. That's ridiculous because he knows, and certainly.

[Adam Curry]

The State Department genius to figure this, that these guys are just taking us through.

[John C. Dvorak]

We're going to help you out. We're going to give you global hell.

[Adam Curry]

Hell.

[John C. Dvorak]

He said global hell. I'm sticking with it. I'm going to give you global hell. But we want some minerals, which is a much better deal than the Chinese are giving you. Much better. So we can build more AI chips for the data centers. Speaking of. So we had that MIT scientist who was killed and somehow the guy who did the Brown shootings was blamed for it. Although have you seen any photographic or video evidence that he was there, that he did that? It feels just like, I don't know, something is off with that.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I'd say.

[John C. Dvorak]

So the, so the MIT scientist was working with. I have the name of the company somewhere.

[Adam Curry]

Fusion guy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Fusion guy, yes. But it was one of the three. There are three main companies that are poised to supposedly provide a. I think you use the right word word supposedly.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. This is quantum computing. This is in the same league as quantum computing, the way I see it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I watched a couple of videos on these.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, the videos are great. It works terrific in a video. This technology, it's killer.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, we got this announcement on pretty much the same day tonight.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

President Trump predicting pricing.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm sorry, that's not the one. Oops, how did I. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Is here. This is the one. This is Devin Nunes, who was the CEO of Trump Media, which is now.

[Adam Curry]

Right. Which just did a big merger.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. Now, I spent a lot of time in Congress working on nuclear power. Unfortunately, legislation that I proposed, you know, 20 years ago, didn't pass because the Congress decided that they should invest in.

[Adam Curry]

Windmills and solar panels.

[John C. Dvorak]

However, there was a company called tae.

[Adam Curry]

The one that we're merging with, that actually continued to invest. So families like Chuck Schwab's family, investors.

[John C. Dvorak]

Like Stanley Druckenmiller, Google, Chevron, many others continue to invest in tae. So this is private money, not government money. But for a quarter century, they've amassed the best scientists that the world has.

[Adam Curry]

To offer, and they've produced. Now they're on there.

[John C. Dvorak]

They've built five generations of the reactor, and now we're stepping in, bringing, folding them into our company so that we.

[Adam Curry]

Can help them build their first reactor. So this is a fusion reactor. It's clean.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's. It's one that can. The first one will be up to 50 megawatts. The future ones will be somewhere between 350 to 500. Now, what does that mean? Wow. That means these are big enough to replace pretty much or add to the existing power generation that we have in this country. It's a.

[Adam Curry]

It's a good size.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now look, look, this is now, look technology. When this is done, and I don't say this lightly, this will be the most important discovery and invention since the first Manhattan Project. So the professor was working.

[Adam Curry]

Wait, wait, what was the second Manhattan Project?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, this will be the second Manhattan Project. Oh, I see what you're saying, I don't know, is Nunes. So Lorero was working with Commonwealth Fusion Systems to build Spark. And Spark is supposed to start operations in 2026. And. And I just can't get beyond the coincidence of this guy getting iced.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I can't. And there's also the system being put, a plant being built right now in Washington state from Microsoft using yet another fusion trick technology supposedly, that supposedly works. Supposedly Supposedly that uses helium 3 and deuterium somehow and it causes people who say, look at the tech. I did a lot of reading on this.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, so the idea, as I understand it, the idea is that you can almost pretty much use salt water seawater and then helium comes out of it. You can use the helium to create steam. And in the video that I watched, the TAE video, they're saying, oh no, we can convert that straight to electricity somehow.

[Adam Curry]

Huh? No, whatever you said was just nonsense.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I'm just telling you it was in the video. Video?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, the video is nonsense. Then if it talks about turning seawater using seawater because you can get some helium out of it, it's Almost getting helium 3 is a pain in the ass apparently. And then any of the deuterium fusion reactors supposedly is. Again, you know, just listen, I'm just reading what the critics say. The problem with deuterium is that, yeah, it will fuse with helium 3 and, and form a 90 million degree temperature for a small amount of time. But deuterium also fuses with deuterium and when it does that, a bunch of neutrons are released and now you have a radiation problem and the neutron release in the reactor will just melt the reactor. The whole thing's a disaster. It seems that this technology has not been proven to work anywhere.

[John C. Dvorak]

And it's really cool the way they, they contain plasma in a tube and the plasma has to spin around. And the problem is keeping the plasma in there.

[Adam Curry]

Oh yeah, and the guy that got killed at mit, what was his specialty?

[John C. Dvorak]

Plasma.

[Adam Curry]

Plasma.

[John C. Dvorak]

So there's one other company out there. I think it's the Zap. I think it's zap. Who would do the Z pinch? I think there's one more scientist who has to die for the, for the, for the theory to be. I have a feeling, feeling that they may be closer than we think or than we think is possible. Yes, the fusion has been talked about for a long, long time.

[Adam Curry]

Forever.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think it's certainly somehow I feel it's more likely that this is happening than quantum, which you might have noticed is everywhere now. The pivot to quantum is happening and I predicted it would happen happen. Which means the AI is just not panning out the way they expected it to.

[Adam Curry]

Well, by panning out you mean profitable.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, how about productive wise? It's not productive. It's productive for social media, it's great for newsletters and for art and funny videos. But it's not panned out to be productive in the workplace place.

[Adam Curry]

No, not at all.

[John C. Dvorak]

So, and, and it's not profitable.

[Adam Curry]

It's in fact it's counterproductive thinking about what you just said.

[John C. Dvorak]

But how about this? How about this? Let's, let's just break it down. Maybe, maybe this is just the next hype that they're kickstarting because you know, why else why it was like, oh, Trump, you know, is these is conflicts of interest with the data centers. Yeah, it's his kids running it, I guess. Nunes. What? It doesn't matter who's running, running it. This will just be the next thing. Because what is the power? What is the problem with AI right now is power. So as long as everyone's out. Oh, we're almost there. 2026. Oh, it could be little, little glitch. 2027. This could be an enormous addition to the GDP now that we're kind of, you know, the data center deals are starting to slow down. The big, the big guys with the money are like, man, we don't want to put any more money in the data center centers. Hyperscalers, which is another word for builders of data centers. This could just be the next hype. You know, just to keep the train rolling, we have to keep it rolling. AI is now 90% of our GDP.

[Adam Curry]

That's not true.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's sure seems like it.

[Adam Curry]

Well, 90% of the mind share, maybe that and GLP1.

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean that's all we have. We have AI and Ozempic. Welcome to America.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. And Apple phones. That's about it.

[John C. Dvorak]

But I mean I'm hopeful because it would be fantastic. Think about it, think about the changes that would happen if fusion actually came about. That would be amazing.

[Adam Curry]

Showing me one example of where it works at all.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, on the video you can see, you can see it on the video. Actually it was like a 45 minute video video from the company itself. Not once did they show he it's working. Look at the, look at the meter. Look, look at the power coming out. They didn't show that at all in 45 minutes of talking about their product.

[Adam Curry]

So that's because it doesn't work.

[John C. Dvorak]

Could it work?

[Adam Curry]

I mean it might work someday. Somebody might come up with a good idea or something. One of the slap on the head.

[John C. Dvorak]

What is the main problem with it?

[Adam Curry]

It costs more energy to get it to get going than it delivers.

[John C. Dvorak]

No. Okay. Because you gotta, you gotta fire up the plasma.

[Adam Curry]

Tron the plasma. You got to control this. And that costs money to extract the H3, the case of the helium ones. It costs money to, to get the deuterium that's not. Doesn't come in, you know, by. It's not bottled by Coca Cola. I mean it's something you have to develop.

[John C. Dvorak]

How do you make that?

[Adam Curry]

I have no idea. But it's not cheap. That costs money and it costs money for the other stuff. It costs money to get the plasma going to cost money to build a plant and then when you turn on the power to make it so it creates power. It costs more money to create than it's worth. That's the problem. It's negative. It's got negative numbers all over the place. So it's a loser until somebody figures something out and they haven't done it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh well, back to zero point energy I got. Guess I just can't get beyond it. I can't get beyond that guy. That guy getting killed the minute this TAE merger takes place. Folded them in which I don't like that term. I'm not sure what you're talking about. But that Trump Media is for one thing and one thing only. It's a money gobbling machine.

[Adam Curry]

It's just beyond me.

[John C. Dvorak]

What?

[Adam Curry]

That you. Well yeah, if you know what you're doing, you got some good. Well here's the creative bookkeepers and you got a few other guys. Oh, it's know how to set five salesmen and two creative bookkeepers and you got a company that'll make billions.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's a, it's an accretive acquisition. That's what you have to say at Wall Street. It's accretive. Oh really? Yes, it's accretive to the balance sheet. The good news is we have the best producers in the universe. Universe. No doubt we have someone out there working in fusion who can give us the straight answer and the details on what's really happening.

[Adam Curry]

No, we probably do have somebody working in fusion.

[John C. Dvorak]

Of course we do.

[Adam Curry]

And you're going to say the same thing. Well, we wish.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah. So it's not a good idea if more goes into it.

[Adam Curry]

It would be a great thing if we could get it to work.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah. Okay. Well that's disappointing.

[Adam Curry]

Well, it's just completely wrong. I mean why did they touch.

[John C. Dvorak]

But they didn't have to kill the guy then if it doesn't work, someone believes it works. How about that? There's Devin Nunes I'm sure is like. Oh yeah, that's gonna.

[Adam Curry]

Well someone believes quantum computing works. Yeah, no you're, you're right about that. Some people believe. And maybe you know what? Maybe that guy was the guy I'm talking about who needs. He has the little. That one piece of knowledge that would make it work. And so that's the guy you want to kill to keep it from ever coming to fruition. Because you're the. Because you're the oil companies.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. The one I love the most is the. Is the quantum computing people. Quantum's gonna, Gonna break Bitcoin. Like. Okay, which. Bitcoin is not encrypted. It's your wallet that's encrypted. But if, If Quantum can decrypt Bitcoin wallets, you got a much bigger problem on your hands because they, they can decrypt your bank login. You know, every, Everything. It's the same encryption. No, no, this is going to. Quantum is going to do all that. Okay, all right, all right. Well, we'll just have to wait for it.

[Adam Curry]

I don't know why that became an important element of Quantum. Oh, it's where that.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's the people short Bitcoin. Hello.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, got it. Maybe that. I don't know what it is. It's easy, but it's, it's a. It's a something, you know. Okay. It'll solve some sort of problem that no one can solve, I guess. I.

[John C. Dvorak]

What Quantum?

[Adam Curry]

Not sure what the, what the. What the real appeal of Quantum is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, I can tell you exactly what it is. It's going to give you the right ad at the right time for the right product. That's. That. That's always been the sell. Or it's going to tell you that the milk in your fridge is out and it will order it for you automatically.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, Baller repairman.

[John C. Dvorak]

So I just want to talk about Europe for a second with Ukraine since we do have Zelensky now at Mar a Lago. We have. See, we have a couple of things here. It's just a little catch up from.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

NBC in the Ukrainian capital. The sound of drones once again buzzing across the night sky as Russian strikes pounded keys, pounding, killing at least one person and injuring more than 20, according to Ukrainian officials. Russia launching a massive barrage of more than 500 drones and missiles.

[John C. Dvorak]

Massive.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

Just hours before the Ukrainian leader is set to meet with President Trump in Florida on his way to the US Zelensky stopping in Canada for a meeting with Prime Minister Carney.

[John C. Dvorak]

And tomorrow I will have a whole very important, don't worry and worry constructive.

[Adam Curry]

Meeting with President Trump.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

Peace talks are slowly inching forward.

[John C. Dvorak]

The nat pops are great.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

President Trump peace talks are slowly shooting.

[Adam Curry]

It up in the Oval Office.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, it's in Canada. Right there in Carney's office. He's shooting it.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, they're shooting it up Carney's office. Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Very important and worry constructive meeting with.

[Adam Curry]

President Trump.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

Are slowly inching forward. The main sticking point remains territory. Moscow is looking for full control of the Donbass region in the east. Vladimir Putin saying tonight that if Ukraine doesn't want to resolve the conflict peacefully, then Russia would resolve all its goals by force. Zelensky has said any compromises on territory should be decided by the Ukrainian people in a vote and that his country needs US Security guarantees in any peace deal. Trump telling Politico on Friday the Ukrainian leader doesn't have anything until I approve it. Back in Ukraine, another day spent sifting through debris. We are begging the whole world, says this woman, let there be an end to all this for the sake of our children.

[John C. Dvorak]

So I thought it was interesting that first, you know, Zelensky's coming to Mar a Lago and then all of a sudden, you know, over the weekend, well, he's going to stop off in Canada.

[Adam Curry]

I should mention something because I followed at least five or six these reports and they all go out of their way to mention the stop off in Canada.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, and it wasn't just to talk with Carney.

[Adam Curry]

No, it's to talk to a bunch of your, some other stooges from representative Europe. And then there was a meeting. This was a pre meeting meeting. This was a.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, let's.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, what do I need to know here? I got to deal with Trump again.

[John C. Dvorak]

Tiny dancer, here's what you do. We're going to tell you exactly what to do. Let's get the, the, the true analysis from our guy, Andrew. He's our guy. He's our guy. Andrew Rasulas. And we'll talk first about the stop in Canada.

[Adam Curry]

Thoughts on that?

[John C. Dvorak]

At least the initial press press conference with Carney and Zelinsky, it was quick.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Difficult times, I mean, and then sort of fast moving time. So the main event will be tomorrow, of course, in, in Florida at Mar a Lago when Zelinsky meets Trump to kind of finalize the sort of Ukrainian slash European proposal that they're going to give to Trump. And if Trump likes it, he'll give it to the Russians. And we go there. The Halifax meeting is a stopover. It's important. It's a coordinating meeting between Canada and also the European Union that's also being held with the coalition of the willing, which is being held right now on video. So it's important, but it's a stepstone to the main event tomorrow afternoon.

[John C. Dvorak]

And of course, the question is, whatever the coalition of the willing come up with, will they. Will the Russians accept it? So is this essentially these two meetings just to get everybody on the same page before they hear from Trump?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it's fine tuning. It's actually to give Zelinsky more backing as he goes to see Trump at Mar A Lago. And you know, Trump's not going to be an easy sell. Trump has already said that, you know, he's going to look at what Zelensky gives him, but if he doesn't like it, he's not signing off on it. So that's the kind of atmosphere that Zelinsky is walking into.

[John C. Dvorak]

And then even beyond that, what. Are there any odds that Russia will say yes to this? No.

[Adam Curry]

I mean, the odds are they will say no. They will negotiate maybe, but they will say no. There's a lot of things in this thing about the Russians pulling back from, from the Donetsk area, equal amount of Ukrainians. I doubt the Russians will accept that one. And there's a lot of the uncertainties about the coalition of the willing. In terms of guarantees, will that mean legally ardent Article 5 type, but would it mean troops on the ground in Ukraine? That part, if it's in the package and we haven't seen the full package, I would think the Russians would be very opposed to that part. So all I'm trying to say is that there's a lot of things the Russians have said they will be constructive. That means they will probably counter propose something as opposed to just shut it down.

[John C. Dvorak]

I love the whole Article 5 like guarantees. It's like, well, this is almost like a big Bentley. It's not quite. It's like a Bentley.

[Adam Curry]

It's like a Bentley.

[John C. Dvorak]

Article five like guarantees, which already I think it's Article six says, you know, you know, we. It's an Article five says an attack on one is attack on all. I think it's Article 6 that says, and then if you want, you can do something about it. It's not a given. So it'll be less than a given. By calling it Article 5, like, and meanwhile, Canada, Canada, more of your tax money. And just quickly, before we go, one question about the spending that the Prime Minister announced. A two and a half billion. How will that be allocated? How does it help Ukraine?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it's going to international funds like the Internet, the IMF and the World bank and others. It's not a direct transfer to Ukrainians. And I think that's actually wise given that Ukraine, Ukraine is going through a lot of corruption issues right now. So there's questions, where's the money going inside Ukraine? But also I think that there's, the other question is, you know, what's Canada going to get back for this? Canada's poured in quite a lot of many billions in terms of Ukraine's economic situation. So is Canadian industry going to benefit by this, the longer term? Because Ukraine is on the precipice of bankruptcy. The European, European Union bailed them out with a two year loan, but they were going to go bankrupt in April. So these things have to be watched very carefully, I think.

[John C. Dvorak]

So the, the, the bank loan from the frozen Russian assets seen internationally as theft resulted in the Belgian Prime Minister Barta Wever, who of course, you know, you say, hey, you can't really do this. This is a problem. You have to give us Article 5, like guarantees so Russia doesn' here and kill us all for taking the money. Well, he just, he just stepped it up. He said, this is such a good deal. We won.

[Adam Curry]

The immobilized assets will be kept immobilized.

[John C. Dvorak]

And will ultimately be used to repair the damage Russia has caused to its unprovoked and unjustified war against Ukraine. I think nobody in the European family wants to see that money returned to Moscow. But we're going to return to the original, original philosophy.

[Adam Curry]

It is going to be used to repair the damage that Russia has caused in Ukraine.

[John C. Dvorak]

So I think Ukraine has won. They have their finance and they still have the perspective of getting reparation money. I think Europe has won perspective and financial stability has certainly won. We've all won. Ukraine won. Europe won. Now I'm going to play, play two clips from Giannis Varoufakis. I know you don't like that guy.

[Adam Curry]

We haven't heard about him for a while.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, he's been, he's been doing his own podcast, soliloquy style, where he's really reading his own script off camera, which.

[Adam Curry]

Looks kind of odd, but I always find that creepy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh yeah, it's.

[Adam Curry]

For one second. So off camera read. I don't even know when they became popular, but they started showing up in maybe the late 80s and they became more and more used more and more. Alex Jones uses them a little bit. Candace Owens does it.

[John C. Dvorak]

You mean it's the second shot? It's the shot where you see someone reading but you see them from the side? Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And I call it an off camera read. Who are they reading to? They're reading to the other camera, which is the one that represents the audience. Audience. But. So we're now we're seeing him as a third party. So an interloper from the side. I find it disturbing. I don't like it.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's art either.

[Adam Curry]

Talk to me.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's art.

[Adam Curry]

That's the problem. That's what they think it is. It's art. If you're talking to me on camera, I want you talking to me. Not over to the left, over some guy. It's over. Where's that?

[John C. Dvorak]

Who she?

[Adam Curry]

Who's she talking to?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, that ship has sailed. That sailed with the Dutch windmill tilt and with the jump, jump cut, which are all pioneered in the 80s and 90s, primarily by MTV. And then Z Frank. Z Frank. Remember Z Frank. Ze Frank. Z Frank.

[Adam Curry]

And they used to. When you're in a studio, they always called it exactly what you say. Dutching the camera.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. Or they say you shooting over the axis. All of the things we learn in film school have been just cast aside. Anyway, he's not reading off camera the way you just. His camera is next to his monitor instead of where it should be, right.

[Adam Curry]

In front of his monitor. All right, I'm sorry, I got carried away with my complaint. I've been wanting to get it off my chest.

[John C. Dvorak]

Your complaint has been registered. Then we will send it to the Austin's film school.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, please do that.

[John C. Dvorak]

So Giannis, he does know a lot about European finance because he was the finance minister and later prime minister of Greece when the International Monetary Fund screwed the them over into severe austerity. Zumar, Waffen, listen up. We've been around. This happened when you were three, but it was bad news in Greece. It was really, really bad. This is how the international finance system works. So he gives us a little rundown in two clips of the retaliation that Russia. The retaliatory measures, measures, as you would say, that Russia has taken against the eastern eu. And trust me when I say you haven't heard this anywhere and it's quite severe. Russia announced that all remaining energy exports to Europe. I'm sorry, start with this one first. Within 48 hours, Russia announced the nationalization of all European corporate assets on Russian territory. BP's stake in Rosneft $14 billion gone. Nationalized shells, Russian operations $3 billion seized. Total energies, projects, $4 billion confiscated. Societe General's banking operations taken over. German automotive plants. Volkswagen, BMW, Mercedes. Facilities worth billions. Nationalized pharmaceutical operations, food processing facilities, retail chains, infrastructure projects, intellectual property, everything. European companies, companies owned in Russia was suddenly Russian state property. The total value exceeded $120 billion, more than the EU had seized. European boardrooms erupted in chaos. Shareholders demanded answers. Stock prices plummeted. Insurance companies faced massive claims. But this was just the opening move. Didn't hear about that, did you? We've won, everybody. We're winning. Winners. Nationals.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, clip of the day right there. Why do I not know this?

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know.

[Adam Curry]

I know because the mainstream media, they've.

[John C. Dvorak]

Stopped doing their job a long time ago, before we.

[Adam Curry]

A long time ago? Well, at least 18 years. We started the show. It's already was 10 years past due.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now listen to the second thing. And I checked the exchange rates and it checked. Checks out. Russia announced that all remaining energy exports to Europe would now be priced exclusively in rubles or yuan. No euros accepted. This was different from previous energy threats. Russia wasn't cutting supply. That would hurt their own revenues. Instead, they were forcing a currency choice. European countries that wanted Russian gas or oil had to acquire rubles or yuan. This meant going through Russian or Chinese financial intermediaries, paying fees, accepting exchange rate risk, losing transparency on pricing. But the real impact was psychological and systemic. By refusing euros, Russia was making a statement. Your currency is no longer acceptable to us. The euro, which Europeans assumed was a global reserve currency, currency that anyone would accept, was being rejected by a major commodity exporter. This had cascading effects. Countries that needed Russian energy had to hold ruble reserves. This meant selling euros to buy rubles. Euro selling pressure increased. The ruble, which Western sanctions were supposed to destroy, strengthened the currency that was supposed to be worthless became necessary for European energy security. Security. China benefited enormously. Countries buying Russian energy in yuan had to acquire yuan first. This accelerated yuan internationalization at the expense of the euro. The European Central bank watched helplessly as energy importers dumped euros for rubles and yuan, weakening the euro and importing inflation through currency depreciation. Yeah, and that if you go look at the ruble USD or the ruble euro chart, it. It happened exactly as he just said it. Boom. 40% up. Everyone's now gotta buy rubles. This is. This is a weakening the euro. Well, it's strengthening the ruble, really.

[Adam Curry]

In.

[John C. Dvorak]

In first case. But the craziest thing, and I got this from Sir Gene our, Our Duke here in Tax, Texas, that the whole Ukraine strategy, or really the Russia strategy, was written up in a single document by the RAND Corporation titled Extending Russia Competing from Advantageous Ground. And I'm not going to read. I'll put it in the show notes. People can look at it. I confirmed it. It's. It's still the year 1920. 2019.

[Adam Curry]

Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

And it's, it's still on their website. Just a couple of items from the, from the index table of contents. Let's see. Hinder petroleum exports. Reduce natural gas exports. Hinder pipeline expansions. Impose sanctions. Enhance Russian brain Dane drain. Provide lethal aid to Ukraine. Ukraine. Increase support to the Syrian rebels. Promote regime change in Belarus. Exploit tensions in the south caucuses. Reduce Russian influence in Central Asia. Challenge Russian presence in Moldova. The whole thing, it's almost like they followed it step by step. Increase US and NATO land forces in Europe. Increase NATO exercises in Europe. Withdraw from the infrastructure treaty. Invest in new capabilities to manipulate Russian risk perceptions. You know, and, and they're still trying it. Oh, I. I got an idea, guys. Reuters. This is a Reuters report. I'm 99% certain it's an AI voice. Here, read this. And a Reuters exclusive has shown that.

[Adam Curry]

Moscow is likely stationing new nuclear capable hypersonic ballistic missiles at a former air.

[John C. Dvorak]

Base in eastern Belgium, Belarus.

[Adam Curry]

That's according to two US researchers who have been studying satellite imagery. It's a development that could bolster Russia's ability to deliver missiles across Europe.

[John C. Dvorak]

We're going to kill you. The Russians are coming. They're coming. They're coming. They're coming. It's unbelievable.

[Adam Curry]

That is a good one.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. And the Europeans like, yeah, man. Hey, Russia, there's no good. We gotta be careful.

[Adam Curry]

According to two randos who study satellite image. Give me a break.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's good. It's great. It's fantastic. I gotta love it. Gotta love it. I think that's it for, for Europe. So the European companies.

[Adam Curry]

And that is it for Europe.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it's. I mean, I don't know. I don't know. How do you come back from this? Except first one, you gotta give the money back. They're going to have to give the money back. They're really counting. I mean, we'll see what comes out of the mar A Lago talks.

[Adam Curry]

Nothing.

[John C. Dvorak]

Probably not. Sadly, probably not. Oh, I just. I want you to get into whatever you want to do next. But something happened. A report came out from cbs. I have been predicting this for a long time. And finally here it is, ladies, the free ride is over. And now you're telling me that you're going to charge me $11.99 or whatever it is to return items?

[Various Reporters/Guests]

Are you out of your mind?

[Adam Curry]

Hassle free online returns may be a thing of the past. Most major retailers are now charging customers to Return items even if they're unopened and in perfect condition.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

Who wants to lose money?

[Adam Curry]

Especially not in this time and in this economy. $850 billion. That's how much Americans will return to the stores this year. Nearly 20% of the stuff we buy.

[John C. Dvorak]

That doesn't sound right. 850 maybe million, I don't know. About billion.

[Adam Curry]

850 billion? No. $50 billion. That's how much Americans will return to the stores this year. Nearly 20. 20% of the stuff we buy online just ends up in the return pile. Return fee. Macy's now charges 9.99 for mail in returns. TJ Maxx and Marshalls charge $11.99. Other stores including J Crew, Abercrombie and Fitch, H M and Zara all now charge fees between four and eight bucks. It can now cost as much as $45 to return certain electronics at Best Buy. Amazon too has tightened its policy charging some customers unless they use its box free in person drop off option. Merchants now are under a tremendous amount of cost pressure. They're really trying to offset some of the costs that they face in returns by asking shoppers to share some of the burden. David Sobey co founded his company Happy Returns that you uses these AI robots to help make returns easier. Is there any way to avoid these fees? Well, the best way to avoid them is just to read the retailer's return policy before you check out in the first place.

[John C. Dvorak]

I've been seeing this coming down Broadway for a long time. Women in particular will order 15 items of clothing and return 10, 11 the Try Mom. Nah, I don't like it. Try it on. No, I don't like it. Then I've always said how, how can these stores accept that it's just become shopping at home and now they're going to start charging return fees.

[Adam Curry]

Well, this is basically what you would do at a retail store, especially a woman. She would go in and go to a dress rack and grab like seven dresses and go into this changing room and try all of them on.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And then, you know, turn around and look at herself and then go back and to not buy any of them and then go take another seven in. And so they figured this is the same, this is the analog of doing that, that exact same thing. But instead of being at the store where you're putting it back on the rack, you are having to go through this rigmarole. And I don't know how they can put, I don't know how the system can work with that.

[John C. Dvorak]

It can't Clearly. But it's going to change behavior. Behavior. Because I just see it everywhere. Oh, no. I mean, Tina does it too. I told this morning they start charging. What? Yeah. And start charging for returns. Oh, $9. So. Yeah. Yeah. And I don't know if that's per item or per box that you ship.

[Adam Curry]

It's probably per item.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. So that's going to end that. It's going to bring people back to the mall, back to brick and mortar.

[Adam Curry]

It's going to change. Change behavior. You're right. Because it's too expensive.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Or.

[John C. Dvorak]

Or maybe order them like that, but then return them in person. I think that that's probably where it'll wind up. Return them in person.

[Adam Curry]

Well, then you have to have a store to return them to. You can't do that with Amazon.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, they have their, their, their drop places, their drop boxes, according to that report. So.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, they're gonna, they're not gonna. That's still gonna cost money. They, they have to recharge you to drop it off in one of those little cubicles at the grocery store. I've seen those.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, is that where you pick up your scratch offs?

[Adam Curry]

Scratch and sniff. What are you talking about?

[John C. Dvorak]

Your scratch off. Your scratch off lottery tickets, man. Your scratch offs.

[Adam Curry]

You know, I have the same chance of winning whether or not I buy a ticket.

[John C. Dvorak]

What is this untitled clip you have? I love seeing it. Those.

[Adam Curry]

It's. It's actually, that's not a mistake. It's just a. It just got into. I should have taken it off. It doesn't mean anything.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

I do have a. I do have an am fest. Kind of an interesting clip from this. You know, the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

America first big meetup. It was during our show day.

[John C. Dvorak]

Not. Not America First. It's the America Fest.

[Adam Curry]

America Fest. America First. America First.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. This big Turning Point USA. That 35, 40,000 people were there.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I heard some 30, but it was a lot of people. Everybody showed up and it was like a big.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, everybody was mad. We had, we had. What's his face. What's the little. Little weasel man. Fast talker. Ben Shapiro.

[Adam Curry]

Ben Shapiro bought his way in big controversy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yes. A million dollars from the Jew money. The shekels. And he. All he did is rag on Candace and everybody, everybody else. And Tucker and I think there was a lot more going on at amfest, but those were the highlights.

[Adam Curry]

I think you summarized it. But I thought that this little report, which added a tidbit, I did not know. And I thought. And I have to agree, this is a woman, a British woman, that's called the War Rick Report. She's one of these online. She's a. Not a. She's more of a blogger than a podcast or a video blogger. And she. She's very good at what she does, and she. She gets in and out of these things. And she went to. To this one, and she found something at the. @amfest that is kind of disturbing. Are you ready for my AmFest recap?

[John C. Dvorak]

This is gonna piss a few people off. I was not invited and I was not paid to go.

[Adam Curry]

At the last minute, I applied as.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

Independent media, pulled a few strings, made.

[Adam Curry]

A few calls, and got approved. Am Fest, day two.

[John C. Dvorak]

I arrive and immediately feel the vibes are off. Not only did it feel as if I'd walked into a tense, blurry proxy war, but attendees were looking each other.

[Adam Curry]

Up and down with suspicion.

[John C. Dvorak]

We all saw speakers like Ben Shapiro, Tucker Carlson, and Megyn Kelly go after each other. Quite frankly, that was rather embarrassing.

[Adam Curry]

And the left are laughing at conservatives.

[John C. Dvorak]

The house is divided against itself and cannot stand. And what's the division? One simple but loaded question. Are you pro America or pro Israel?

[Various Reporters/Guests]

You'd think the answer was obvious.

[Adam Curry]

We were at America Fest.

[John C. Dvorak]

But the nuances were palpable.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

Several activities and events seemed in bad taste. For example, the 10 tent replica. Yes, there was a replica of the tent Charlie was publicly executed in for people to take selfies in. Now, that doesn't sit right with me.

[Adam Curry]

The public's online takeaway of the event.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

Is rather telling, and they have every.

[Adam Curry]

Right to question what's going on.

[John C. Dvorak]

As someone who was physically there, I.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

Can attest that there was something seriously off. There needs to be a ceasefire of.

[John C. Dvorak]

The friendly fire in the Conservative movement. Traitors must be removed from power, and we should focus on the enemy that.

[Adam Curry]

Is trying to destroy the uk, America.

[John C. Dvorak]

And the west in general.

[Adam Curry]

However, I must say that I did.

[John C. Dvorak]

Meet an interesting group of people there, and the networking was fantastic. Hmm.

[Adam Curry]

So there was a tent. Well, that was a replica of what's. Where Charlie was shot. So you can go have a. Have a picture taken. What?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, that. That may just be their standard TP USA tent. I. That's maybe just how she's categorizing it. I don't know. Look, let's just face one.

[Adam Curry]

Look, look, look.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let's look, let's face one thing. TP usa, the organization it was. Its main mission was to register voters and to activate them when necessary. Because you.

[Adam Curry]

You know, you.

[John C. Dvorak]

You can scream and yell and say Trump or Biden, whatever you want to say. But if someone isn't registered in time, they can't vote. TP USA is a voter registration organization. And then of course an activation, as MO would say, an activation organization to get you going at the right moment. So you go vote. Because you're already registered, you don't have to go through a two step process. So everyone who is there is there to get people involved and all these tents and everything. It's always to register. You need to register to vote. Yeah, that's important. I'll register to vote. And once you're registered, then we're going to activate you. They're kind of doing things out of sequence now because they're pre activating and I think it's true. J.D. vance. That's, that's what they're doing now. And that may or may not be with approval of the President, but it seems like that's all that it's about. And all the other stuff is just, it's noise. It's just noise. Who now Alex Jones is involved. Alex Jones is he. Candace, you were wrong. Gotta call it out. But I read all the documents. Been doing this 200 years. Candace, you're wrong. I love you, but no, I gotta call out when you're wrong.

[Adam Curry]

Love you.

[John C. Dvorak]

I love Candace. I love Candace, but when she's wrong, she's wrong. Gotta call it out in my car while I'm driving. It's insane. And, and at this point it's just idolatry. Just, just being in the mix. Dave Rubin jumps in.

[Adam Curry]

I know the whole, the whole podcasting industrial complex, which I blame on you by the way.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's totally my fault, you know, but.

[Adam Curry]

Is is out of control.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's Candyland, everybody. We're in Candyland. That's where we're at.

[Adam Curry]

So you were talking about, about the clip before was about liars. I have to play this series and it'll be my last real series for today.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, you got a series, huh?

[Adam Curry]

This is series. Well, these all been series. I've done a lot of series. I don't know why.

[John C. Dvorak]

Because that's what we do. We do series so that we can tell.

[Adam Curry]

So we can and moan. We bitch and moan in our own way.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, we want the kids, we want the kids to learn something from us. Ultimately that's what we are. We are teaching teachers.

[Adam Curry]

Don't laugh.

[John C. Dvorak]

We're teachers. We're educators.

[Adam Curry]

So this is Brooks.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, I take it back. We're just bitching and moaning. We're not teachers. At all. This is Brooks on the PBS News Hour, which nobody who listens to this podcast watch watches ever.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. So Brooks, Brooks goes off. Brooks, I, I've now determined is actually, you know, he's supposed to be a con. You know, this is my main complaint for the over the years. I'll do it again. PBS had, does not have balanced coverage of anything. So they put two people on to argue with each other. But they are both in 100% agreement only to what. What? I'm a lefty. I'm more of a lefty. That's the argument is how left can you be?

[John C. Dvorak]

Hey, these clips are loud. They're really modulated. Did you clip these?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I did. I, I did give them a. I hear. Yeah, they're.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm looking at these.

[Adam Curry]

These are maxed out.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I'm looking at the waveform.

[Adam Curry]

Like, I try to do this with my clips.

[John C. Dvorak]

Why? Why? All I'm doing is potting them down.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, you'll be potting them. You'll be having some fun with these. So he. So they don't have cape heart on. So the two of them can't agree with each other. They brought some woman on whose I is not even worth the guy clip. None of her. I just wanted to clip Brooks to make a point about Brooks being not only a left winger, but he's a New York Times columnist who is going to blatantly lie. President Trump's return to the White House has seen several significant changes from his first term, turning this into a consequential year for the presidency and for the country. So to reflect on it all, we turn now to the analysis of Brooks and Atkins stores.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's David Brooks of the New York.

[Adam Curry]

Times and Kimberly Atkins Storr of the Boston Globe. Jonathan Capehart is away.

[John C. Dvorak]

Welcome to you both.

[Adam Curry]

Thank you for being here.

[John C. Dvorak]

David, One of the biggest questions at the starting of this year is what.

[Adam Curry]

Trump 2.0 was going to look like compared to the first version. And we have now seen a year of it. An incredibly aggressive flexing of executive authority. When you look back on this year, what really stands out out to you? Yeah, I tell two stories.

[John C. Dvorak]

The first is that since 1945, the American establishment, if you want to put.

[Adam Curry]

It that way, has built a series of institutions. Things like the Western alliance, NATO, the Department of Justice, usaid, and all of those things have been hollowed out over the last year. The Department of Justice, the Department of Justice. That's new. He put that in there. He said specifically, that's new. The Department of Justice. Let me just read a little segment here.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, you've done your, you've done, you've done, you got the documents. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

On February 19, 1868, Lawrence introduced a bill in Congress to create the Department of Justice in 1868, President Ulysses S. Grant signed the bill into law on June 22, 1870. What does that have to do in 1945, 1946.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, it's hollowed out, man. It's hollowed out.

[Adam Curry]

It's like you did notice he got the little, he got the little thing in there about usaid. Yes, of course, because the PBS is. I think, I think you nailed it when you said that they were getting money from usaid.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sure, sure.

[Adam Curry]

Under the table, whatever.

[John C. Dvorak]

Probably not even under the table, probably through an ngo.

[Adam Curry]

So, so we start off with a blatant lie about the Department of Justice. But that gets worse. Let's. But let's. It doesn't get worse for another clip or two.

[John C. Dvorak]

It gets worse.

[Adam Curry]

John Cedar, he's got worse.

[John C. Dvorak]

He's got all the documents.

[Adam Curry]

And so we've seen a great decline in state capacity.

[John C. Dvorak]

He knows their globalist agenda.

[Adam Curry]

You have to worry about if we're.

[John C. Dvorak]

A nation in decline because China is.

[Adam Curry]

Investing in science, they're investing in technologies, they're kicking our butts.

[John C. Dvorak]

And so the decline, this has been a tragedy, historic.

[Adam Curry]

An era of historic proportions.

[John C. Dvorak]

They're kicking our butts. Is there a lie in there somewhere?

[Adam Curry]

No, not yet. Not yet. Well, it's the fact that the Chinese are kicking our butts in AI. Okay, so then we have this next clip, which is actually a WTF clip. This proves to me that this guy is about, as you know, represents conservatives about as much as Hillary Clinton. Earlier this spring, David, you remember you called for arguing that all of these little protests, pushbacks that are happening against the Trump administration were insufficient for what you're diagnosing. And you called for a collective civic action. I don't think I'm breaking any news to you that. I don't think that that has happened. Yeah, I mean, I was reading all.

[John C. Dvorak]

These lefty revolutionaries and I'm like, yeah, yeah, let's go get them.

[Adam Curry]

I think it has not happened.

[John C. Dvorak]

What in the world?

[Adam Curry]

So he's reading alternate and God knows what other left wing publications routinely, and he's getting all worked up saying, yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Ye go David Brooks reading all those alternate.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, we, we get it. You can, you're getting, you, you're, I would say you're 5%. You're really close.

[John C. Dvorak]

The reason why is because I've had the flu for the past two days. And. And that's why I'm overdoing it, because I.

[Adam Curry]

And what I say. Really close. I'm talking about his being able to do Alex Jones. And a couple of moments back. Yes, Couple of.

[John C. Dvorak]

I had it moments ago. I have.

[Adam Curry]

He nailed a. At least five or six words that sounded exactly right. So now you're. I don't know if you're trying to get my attention. Yes, but you. Yes, you've got it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, thank you.

[Adam Curry]

But can you sustain it without your cold?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I can't. It's not a cold. It's the flu, man. It's the flu. I'm jacked up on all kinds of meds right now. You didn't even know that.

[Adam Curry]

No, you don't. Because you don't have the. You're good at. You can cover up sickness somehow over.

[John C. Dvorak]

A microphone, especially mental.

[Adam Curry]

I'd be talking like this. Well, the way I say it, I can't bring it through my nose. And I'm just gonna have to blow it a couple times if you don't bite.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I refiltered. I refiltered when I sat down. Like, I got a refilter. So I'm gonna keep this filter, though.

[Adam Curry]

All right, but the Jo. The Joan.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let's go to the last clip.

[Adam Curry]

You want to get it out of your system.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let me try again. Johnson, now. I can'.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, well, you have to work on it more.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

I'm glad I didn't. I'm glad I didn't try my Zelensky. So this is the part. This is the end of it. And he just drops a bunch of bombs in here. At the end lies.

[John C. Dvorak]

The second thing that's happened is there.

[Adam Curry]

Has been such a decay of moral norms that it's hard for any institution.

[John C. Dvorak]

To say, no, we are going to stand up for this. You are not going to talk about.

[Adam Curry]

Rob Reiner the way you did. You're not going to use the racial language that is omnipresent now. And it's hard to articulate when the corrosion is not only in our laws, but in our minds, in our language. That's a hard thing to challenge, but I'm hopeful in the long term, it'll happen.

[John C. Dvorak]

In the 1890s, we had a civic renaissance.

[Adam Curry]

We had the creation of the Boys and Girls Clubs.

[John C. Dvorak]

We had the creation of the naacp.

[Adam Curry]

The unions, the Sierra Club.

[John C. Dvorak]

All these civic organizations. Organizations were created by a group of.

[Adam Curry]

People who said, we can't go on this way. And once you had the civic institutions, then in around 1900, you had the progressive movement.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wait a minute. Wasn't the Sierra Club, Weren't those the population bomb people like kill everybody?

[Adam Curry]

No, they were just conservationists, which is not a new operation. Now. He said in the 1890s, we had the NAACP, the Sierra Co Club, and the Boys and Girls Club. Let's go over the facts.

[John C. Dvorak]

Here we go. He's got the documents.

[Adam Curry]

Boys Club, the boy. It was no Boys and Girls Club. Let's make this clear. There was no Boys and Girls Clubs in the United States.

[John C. Dvorak]

Was there a girls club?

[Adam Curry]

There may have been, but the girls usually joined the Girl Scouts.

[John C. Dvorak]

Right.

[Adam Curry]

The Girl Boys and Girls Club came about in 1990, not 1890. In fact, the Boys Club was first founded by women, actually, curiously, in 1860, which is not 1890. It was then nationally organized in 1906, not 1890. And then it was reformed in 1930, in the 30s and the 40s, not 1890. Oh, well, let's go to the national association for the Advancement of Colored People, which was formed, according to him, in the 1890s. The Nash. The NAACP was formed in 1909 by people like W.E.B. du Bois. This was not 1890. The Sierra Club was indeed founded in 1890. But that's a conversation. Conservationist group is not a political group. And then we take it to the end, which he says labor unions, which were actually founded the first, the founding of the national labor Union was in 1866, not 1890. And there's plenty of examples of unions that were from the Knights of Labor. Was it 1869? And then the great railroad strike, which was a Union inspired strike, 1877. This guy is a liar. He works for the New York Times and he spews bullshit on PBS which people lap up like lap dogs. It's pathetic. Pathetic.

[John C. Dvorak]

So does this end the clips on the no Agenda show of the PBS News Hour? Since it's all lies, can it, can it possibly mean the end? Could this be a New Year's resolution?

[Adam Curry]

Let's hope so.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right, let's do a little bit of Trump derangement syndrome before the break. This was a fine example, which is going to cost somebody a lot of money to the index.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

And what was meant to be a celebration is now a comedy controversy. The Kennedy center canceled its annual Christmas Eve jazz concert. The show's host, musician Chuck Red, says he called off the performance in the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wake of President Trump adding his own name to the arts institution.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

Many legal scholars say Trump's move Violates scholars.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, Chuck Red has been doing this Christmas concert since 1890, and now all of a sudden he decides to cancel.

[Adam Curry]

1890.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's, you know, Grinnell is, is the president, which is perfect for the job. Remember Grinnell? He was, he was ambassador. He's the gay guy. He was.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah, I do remember him. He's the gay, the gay ambassador. Yeah. He is perfect for the job. That's true.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. And I think he then was, for a moment there, he was National Security Advisor.

[Adam Curry]

I think I'd have to look him up.

[John C. Dvorak]

I liked him. He was in. Good guy. Good luck looking man. Good guy.

[Adam Curry]

Handsome man.

[John C. Dvorak]

Very handsome man. And so, so this, this Chuck Red decides to cancel a day before the concert. That's going to cost you money. That's gonna. Someone has to pay for that because ticket sales, everything's already done. That's just a, that's a, that's a career killing move as far as I'm concerned.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. For political purposes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. I was like, what do you care, man? What do you care? Trump put his name above jfk. This is a Bloomberg podcast called the Balance of Power. You can already imagine what this is like. I think it's audio only. Thank the Lord.

[Adam Curry]

No, it's on tv.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's on tv, too.

[Adam Curry]

I'm pretty sure it is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, here they are complaining about Trump.

[Adam Curry]

Incredible reporting today in the New York Times.

[John C. Dvorak]

If you have not seen this story.

[Adam Curry]

They spent time in the Oval like no one has, cataloging each inch and all of the changes that have taken place over the last year. There have been a lot of them, by the way, the flags are abundant. We've got the gold framed copy of the Declaration of Independence. Gold statuette of an eagle flying over the Constitution arrived last month. Near the flags behind the desk, a wooden box with a red button. You know, that's the Diet Coke button. That's different. It's not gold. But the question of whether the gold is real also acknowledged when you look at all the frames, the, the mirrors.

[John C. Dvorak]

And the photos, some thought that this.

[Adam Curry]

Was just cheap plastic. No, the White House says that while the underlying materials are made of plaster or metal, they are covered in real gold leaf. A craftsman from Florida travels to the White House on the weekends to guild gild guild parts of the Oval Office by hand.

[John C. Dvorak]

What is the problem? I mean, I'm not that much.

[Adam Curry]

I do that myself at the house.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. With gold spray paint.

[Adam Curry]

No, you can get gold leaf. It's really. It's actually relatively. It's not as cheap as it used to be.

[John C. Dvorak]

Are you gilding stuff?

[Adam Curry]

I've gilded stuff. I'm not doing it as we speak.

[John C. Dvorak]

Could you guild my microphone?

[Adam Curry]

You want to spray it? You want to spray it? You don't want to gild it.

[John C. Dvorak]

How do you guild? Is guild done by painting or how do you guild?

[Adam Curry]

No, no, it's like you get. You have an under. There's a sticky under surface and you lay a piece of gold leaf over it and press it down and over the. Over the bumps and little things and get it. So it's all pushed in, in there. So it's, you know, one leaf, gold leaf at a time. It's only one atom thick, which is crazy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Atom. Oh, man.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Gold can be one atom thick and still be gold.

[John C. Dvorak]

Is that the stuff the, the high end chefs put on the food?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, exactly.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's the stuff you can eat.

[Adam Curry]

That's exactly the same stuff.

[John C. Dvorak]

You can eat it.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, you can. Because there's only a couple. There's really not that much to it. It's just.

[John C. Dvorak]

I've eaten it, I've eaten it.

[Adam Curry]

Line of atoms. It's just you're probably not getting enough gold to do anything. I mean, it's not much gold.

[John C. Dvorak]

I've eaten gold in my day.

[Adam Curry]

Most people have. If you go to a high end restaurant over the years, at some point someone will bring out a gateau that has a piece of gold leaf on.

[John C. Dvorak]

The top and foam. Foam.

[Adam Curry]

Foam's a so pass. It's ridiculous.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, foam. It's still a thing.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, well, maybe where you are. Let me clue you in about foam.

[John C. Dvorak]

The foam. I've always loved the foam. And so this, these guys didn't stop. Do you know about the peephole? Do you?

[Adam Curry]

Oh, brother, this is fascinating. You know about the peephole in the outer oval? Most people don't know about this. There was a peephole that until quite.

[John C. Dvorak]

Recently would allow staff just check on the meeting to see what's going on in there.

[Adam Curry]

Make sure you'd have President's. Alright, you're gonna walk in. You know what you're walking in on. Trump has blocked the peephole with new mirrors. Oh, no. If the door is now closed, they cannot see what is happening in the room.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, God.

[Adam Curry]

I'll have what she's having.

[John C. Dvorak]

He's blocked the peephole. I can't believe that's also on television. That's crazy. Crazy.

[Adam Curry]

Well, they. It's on television. They have it. It's a very small box and it's surrounded by nothing but stock market information flying all over the place.

[John C. Dvorak]

Right, right. It's not really a television show. Yeah, I know. Exactly. Well, John, with that fine news of the peephole being blocked, I think it is time to thank you for your courage. The man who put the sea in Candyland. Say hello to my friend on the other end. The one, the only, Mr. John.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Those ships of sea boots on the ground feeding their subs in the water all the dames and knights out there.

[John C. Dvorak]

In the morning to the trolls in the troll roof.

[Adam Curry]

Hold on, let me count.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, we're at 1838. That's not bad for a holiday weekend. It's good to Everybody have Everybody. Everybody here. 1838. Trolls are listening live to this podcast. And we are a podcast. We're just a podcast. You can do other things while listening.

[Adam Curry]

We're genuine.

[John C. Dvorak]

We are an OG podcast.

[Adam Curry]

Or someone genuine.

[John C. Dvorak]

A pod, as some would say. The pod.

[Adam Curry]

Well, you. You shouldn't be saying it.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, you.

[Adam Curry]

You. You've rejected that moniker.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, Yes, I have. So you can be driving while you're listening to this. You could be walking the dog, doing chores. You're washing the dishes, walking around. You can be gardening g. All kinds of wonderful activities. In fact, we encourage that you are outside when you listen to this podcast, just walking around, laughing to yourself. So people think you're nuts. It's perfect. And you'll recognize each other on the street. Oh, you're listening to the best podcast. Yeah, I'm listening.

[Adam Curry]

Itm.

[John C. Dvorak]

Igm, everybody. Oh, what does that happen? The other day.

[Adam Curry]

You got an itm.

[John C. Dvorak]

I got an itm. Out of the blue.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, we.

[John C. Dvorak]

From a pastor. We were talking to a pastor.

[Adam Curry]

One of the Brians?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, not one of the five Brians. No, this is for Godcaster. And. And the past says itm. I'm like, holy moly, itm. There we go. A man of the cloth of many different cloths. And of course, if you have a modern podcast app. And by the way, podverse is working on a new version, which is going to be amazing. Pod version. Pod verse 2.2.0. They're real. I mean, Mitch is. Well, the new version of podverse.

[Adam Curry]

I mean, what. What's it gonna do?

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean, it's. It's hard to explain, but it's really gonna help you find new podcasts, find music. We have value for value music. About the music hack, it's interesting you bring that up. Yes. And it's not a hack. It's just. It's a great idea.

[Adam Curry]

It's a download.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think it's. It's. Was it Anna, Anna's blog? No, not. Yeah, it is Anna's blog. They backed up Spotify and they're making all of it. Well, I think 90%, pretty much.

[Adam Curry]

I thought it was all of it.

[John C. Dvorak]

We archived around 86 million files, representing 99.6% of listens. Of listens, 300 terabyte in total size. And of course, they're putting this all on torrents and so you can already get the metadata. I've never even heard of Anna's blog, but if you want to get a book.

[Adam Curry]

They're hackers, they do a lot. Anna's blog has been in business. Nobody knows anything about them, but they. They're the ones who have the giant libraries that they've. They've stolen. I use the word stolen. They have downloaded all kinds of stuff. They're very important to the underground community for information archiving.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, you like downloading movies?

[Adam Curry]

No, I don't. I pay for everything I view.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Yes, you're right. You pay for everything. Everything you do. But there's lots of people who like downloading movies, you know, but they have books. They have. I'll bet you your books are on here. Did you.

[Adam Curry]

I wouldn't be surprised.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, so it's kind of. It's kind of a super hack because I can see people putting together. They even have some kind of their own player, if I understood of correctly. So in essence, you can load up the metadata in their player and then you can access the files from the torrents in your player and it'll just kind of work. Like Spotify.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, I can't see how that helps the stock.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I mean, it depends. If it gets kind of the scale of Napster, it'll be very interesting to see what happens. But basically, basically, the musicians aren't really losing any money. I mean, no one's making money.

[Adam Curry]

They're not making any money anyway.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. So, you know, so in a way, it's kind of fun. I mean, I don't condone stealing, but, you know, I don't know, I just like the idea that they just sat there and had all of these machines just screaming, grinding away and saving everything. I like that. Just something. Something radical about it that I like. Of course, with podcasts we had.

[Adam Curry]

This was at the dinner table conversation. Two couple of things to note. One, it. I also posted this on. On X. This little hack and I. The note. The notes I got Back from typically in my followers go, so what. This is not WAV files. Everybody knows if you're going to save stuff, you got to save it in Wave. You got to save lossless, lossless audio. Lossless, lossless. And so I got that. And so then you also had the. Which is.

[John C. Dvorak]

But you've heard no one cares. No one cares about quality anymore. That went out the window.

[Adam Curry]

So that's came up the dinner table. JC says well, he only downloaded as 160K. And I said, which is more than adequate if you. For today 128 or 64.

[John C. Dvorak]

This podcast is 96.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, we're 96.

[John C. Dvorak]

96, man. We don't care. It's great. I started doing that for file size, but now it became part of our sound.

[Adam Curry]

It is literally sound is fine. People would say we have great sound and we're doing it at 96.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well that's because you get a little bit of artifacts when you do it at 96. It adds a little more crunch to it, which I enjoy. It's almost like, like over modulating onto magnetic tape. That. That's also part of sound. You know, I'm a sound designer, John.

[Adam Curry]

Not just. Yeah, you're.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm a sound designer. It's designed for Earth earbuds. But yeah. So that was the only pushback you got is not. Not Wave. Not Wave. Go talk to Neil Young with his failed Wave product. Remember that? Yeah, yeah, it was a good idea. But no one cared. Nobody cared. Once MP3s came in and Napster and you could be sharing with your friends, it was fantastic, man. I love those days.

[Adam Curry]

The sales of CDs were at their absolute peak.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

Because everyone during Napster. Because you could hear music you never thought of. Because Napster had a recommendation engine.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, it wasn't the recommendation engine. It was you. You got a file and then you go look at the guy's drive. What else you got in there?

[Adam Curry]

Right, well, it was a exploration system. Okay. But it basically was. Was a kind of a handmade version of recommendation. Because what you do, you find you hear some music from some guy and you say, what else is this guy like?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

You go look at his files and you say, oh, I never heard of this band. You, wow, these guys are good. I'm gonna buy their album.

[John C. Dvorak]

But think about how good that was as a discovery mechanism versus what you get on Apple music or Spotify, which sucks.

[Adam Curry]

There is none left.

[John C. Dvorak]

It sucks. Oh, you might also like this. No, I like rooting around in the guy's hard drive. Oh, look at that. He's got 78s. This is John. This is John's drive. That'd be me. He's got all this cool. Oh, he's got entire radio dramas. It was all kinds of fun stuff. We got to bring that back. That was super fun. Now Anna's blog. Bring that back. That's what people want. Yeah. The Internet got ruined by apps. Apps. Gotta have an app. So anyway, get one of those modern podcast apps and apparently Podverse 2.0 will help you find perfect podcasts. Podcast apps.com is where you can find all them. And these are the ones that also automatically will give you a bat signal when your favorite podcast goes live, which is what we do with the no Agenda show, which is really the only way to do it because you have a built in studio audience and it's just more fun, there's more energy. It's just. It's great. Which is great. Face it. What else? Anything else? I guess we'll talk about the. The Christmas special which Donald Winkler put together for us. I got a lot of positive feedback on this. Did you get any feedback at all from people?

[Adam Curry]

None whatsoever.

[John C. Dvorak]

None. Well, I like the art that I chose. Even though we had.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, you ended up bypassing the art that we chose.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, but did you not like my choice?

[Adam Curry]

I was much better. No, it was an executive decision you made. Yes, I wisely. Because that's a terrific piece of art.

[John C. Dvorak]

I called an audible.

[Adam Curry]

You called an audible and you nailed it, Baron.

[John C. Dvorak]

Darren o' Neill created a piece of piece of art which. And they had two of them and one kind of hid the pretty blonde's face, but I opted for just a. She looks a bit like my mom. Honestly. That's how my mom looked back in the 50s. 50s and 60s. That was a very typical American look. Wouldn't you agree?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, no, she's a. It's a pretty.

[John C. Dvorak]

I.

[Adam Curry]

It created a very pretty. That's a pretty face. Pretty, pretty, classic face. Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

And I even got. I got comments on that. People saying, I. I like how Adam and John just don't care. They'll just put a pretty.

[Adam Curry]

What are you talking about?

[John C. Dvorak]

They'll just put a pretty blonde in the picture. He says a pretty blonde.

[Adam Curry]

This is. We do care. Hello. It's just the opposite because we know a pretty blonde sells. Come on. It's unreal.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's not a bank, people. A pretty blonde always sells. And she was holding up a no Agenda Christmas book by Karian Dvorak as curated by Sir Donald Winkle. It was a little, little small, but I decided to go with it anyway.

[Adam Curry]

It was fine.

[John C. Dvorak]

Darren is a master. He's a master, I tell you. I don't know how he does it, but. And of course, he doesn't do anything else. I think his wife works, I'm pretty sure. Hold on to that one, Darren.

[Adam Curry]

Whatever she says, do you change anything?

[John C. Dvorak]

Don't change anything. It's a gem. There were, of course, a lot of pieces of art that were uploaded to no Agenda Art generator dot com. We should probably just take a quick look and let me see. There was a lot of Christmas art. There was a lot of redacted naughty and nice lists. You use the Jeffrey Ria Christmas special artwork, which was a nice piece, which Jeffrey did.

[Adam Curry]

It was a tree, stylized tree with the letters.

[John C. Dvorak]

Do you think that was. Was AI?

[Adam Curry]

Absolutely.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Well, it was. It was good prompting done. And then there was just a ton of. Well, okay, there's. Darren's. Some stockings. I don't know, it's just. Oh, yeah, very funny. Blue acorn with the sweater. Puppies. Okay. Yeah, I'm not going to choose that.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, that was kind of cute.

[John C. Dvorak]

The one you want. You wanted the actual cheesecake because that's what we discussed by Darren in honor of Scaramanga, which I was.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I didn't know. I don't think that's true.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think that's the one we decided on.

[Adam Curry]

No. Oh, the Christmas cheesecake by Scaramanga?

[John C. Dvorak]

I think so. No, by Darren.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, there's a better one by Scare Mango, but it's suit. It's ridiculous. Not usable.

[John C. Dvorak]

As long as you mention him.

[Adam Curry]

That's.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's all that matters. He just wants.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, well, I just. I mentioned it. So. He's got. He's got his mention. He's got to grow with big breasts.

[John C. Dvorak]

So we're always looking for something fun, something that. But I don't really see anything yet. Except another but from comic strip blogger. He's always showing the butts. I don't know. I think there's. I think there's still room people to swoop in and get the art for this episode. It's part of the value for value model is how it works, is you give us your time, your talents and treasure in return for the outstanding podcast that we deliver twice a week for 18 years. We just keep on delivering. We're just delivering. Are you tired of our delivery yet? Because it's. It's never going to stop. We're going to keep on delivering. Four more Years or a thousand more years? Depends. John's newsletter.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, you saw that?

[John C. Dvorak]

I did see that, yes. Inside joke everybody. So we always thank our financial donors. Value for value supporters, $50 and above. It's nice to hear your name called out. It's even nicer when you get a credit for it like an official Hollywood credit which we do with our executive and associate executive producers. That's $200 and above. And we'll read your note for an associate or an executive. $300 above. But once again thanks to Sir Donald Winkler. He is a full on producer and was credited as such in episode 1828. Really appreciate what he did and we will be needing of course special shows for this coming year. There's always stuff going on so we appreciate whenever someone puts something like that together for us. Now to start with our first executive producer for this week. Just as we wind up the year, the last one for this year, Paul Lincolns comes in from Landsville, Pennsylvania with a cool $1,000. And he says see attached note. It's a dame for his mom and his dad. So I'm going to read that now. He says ITM John and Adam. My name is Paul Lincolns. My mom Rose made an insanite donation in May when I graduated from Thaddeus Stevens college earning my associate degree in welding technology. I remember this kid. I know because whenever we get someone who's doing something actually productive like welding.

[Adam Curry]

We'Re the first welding which everyone can use a welder by the way, in their rolodex.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. We're always the first one to say yes, we approve that correct career move. And he says I scored my first job and now I get to sew with metal for a living. It's a welding term. I sew metal. She hit me in the mouth in 2020 and this show has been the best amygdala shrinking bonding experience for us. This is also my chance to make an insta dame donation for her. My gift to you ma. Although might be late. Merry Christmas. I would like tonight name I would like my Nate. I would like my night name to be Sir Mama's boy of the arc welders and my mom's to be Dame Rosie pos of the flower child at the round table. We would like best Texas bricks, bricks, brisket and ice cold beer. This is also a reply to the quote John read in episode 1768. Please read the following mom, though through our struggles in this insanity inducing world, you, dad and I have always stood strong together. You tell me I light up your day. Well, you guys brighten my day, universe. Oh, this is so sweet. I could never have asked for better parents who have taught me so much in life. I am proud to be your son. I love you so much. And now I'd like a noodle gun and a goat scream, followed by health and jobs karma for jingles. That is a beautiful note and a beautiful gift. I'm gonna shoot you in the face with my noodle gun, you racist piece of shell. I got the my pasta Glock locked and loaded.

[Adam Curry]

Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

Let's vote for jobs karma.

[Adam Curry]

And we go on. And you're gonna have to read this note because it blew out my spreadsheet and I. I can mouse around it, but my mouse dropped dead in the last segment.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

And so I'm recharging it I. As we speak.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, you don't just put in.

[Adam Curry]

No, my. My mouse's battery is rechargeable. Yeah, there's no batteries in it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh. Oh, I like to just put battery kind in. That's my.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I do too. Situation.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is from Baba Yaga. Baba Yaga. Hold on a second. Baba Yaga, because you have some requests here. I didn't have set. Okay, let me get the pelosi. Okay. So difficult. I don't have pelosi. Hello from Baba Yaga in Littleton, New hampshire. This is $500. Ooh. The witch has been active out there in the world. She is dancing upon the earth on bony legs with her rusty metal teeth, eternally chomping and clanging with bottomless hunger. She feasts on the world's children as they laugh and frolic into her waiting oven with nary a complain. Outcry. Oh, how she shrieks in delight. How easily they come. How easily they are seduced into her whimsical hut sitting on high on scaly old chicken feet. Oh, how lucky she is to have an endless stream of food that comes right into her home. And as the world turns, she cackles and creaks on. I'm not sure why that came out there, but some interesting little bit. I very much appreciated your media deconstruction since COVID times. I will forever turn a big bloodshot eye of skepticism toward any and all major news developments spewed from the grassy mouths of the foul new ghouls. Thanks in part to your program. Please de douche me.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

You've been de douched.

[John C. Dvorak]

And call out my dad Rick as a major douchebag.

[Adam Curry]

Douchebag. Rick. Rick.

[John C. Dvorak]

Can you give a shout out to my ultra mega awesome Main street business community here in northern New Hampshire, the Woodcocks. And please check out my art and store@baba yagaville.com. that's Baba Yagaville. B a b a y dash a g a ville.com. i gotta check that out. Thank you. And a happy 2026 to you both. You deserve the world and more. And as jingles he wants chemtrails. I didn't have any of. Somehow I missed this entire note. Chemtrails. Yes. I want else does he want that? Pelosi. Shut up. From Zach in the great north beast. Baba Yaga, Littleton, N.H. we will not shut up. No, that wasn't Pelosi. Hold on a second. Where's Pelo? Here's Pelosi.

[Adam Curry]

Shut up.

[John C. Dvorak]

I knew I had it.

[Adam Curry]

Shut up. Shut up.

[John C. Dvorak]

Shut up.

[Adam Curry]

The Baron of Old Bay is in Wilmington, Delaware and he came in with $343 and says wishing everyone a Merry Christmas. I'm donating to help John and Adam enjoy a well deserved Christmas break from the show. What is on the menu this Christmas? Asks the Baron of Old Bay who finishes off with Cheers.

[John C. Dvorak]

What did you have this Christmas?

[Adam Curry]

Well, our Christmas dinner is coming up.

[John C. Dvorak]

Mimi sent me a text. Hey, Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. For whenever you're going to celebrate.

[Adam Curry]

Tuesday.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, we had tamales to What? Tamales?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, you have a tamale. You made the tamales or you. You bought some. Some commercial tamales from a local?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, one of our Mexican friends made tamales for us. They're. They're. That's their pain in the butt to make.

[Adam Curry]

I wouldn't make them.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, so. Yeah, they were dinosaurs. Also I had some of Sir Patrick Scoble. Scoble. Sir Patrick Coble's shine nog, which he gave me when. When I saw him here in Texas, which is moonshine eggnog.

[Adam Curry]

Well, he would be able. He would have access to such a thing.

[John C. Dvorak]

I would not recommend drinking it at 10am like I did because many man. I got hammered. Sir Scoby, Charlotte, N.C. 333.33. These, by the way, of course, are combined donations for the Christmas episode and today's episode. And he wants to hear George Bush send your cast and says, MERRY Christmas, gentlemen. JCD's tip of the day for eggnog recipe warrants mention of another eggnog recipe in the Too Many Eggs cookbook. George Washington's recipe. GW loved his distilled spirits and included copious amounts in his eggnog supposedly to get sloshed with his holiday. Holiday guests. This is the third year in a row I've used the recipe. It's always a hit with family and friends as both a drink and a topic of conversation. So this is the eggnog that Mimi has in the book. Is that why Is this what he's saying?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah, it's in there.

[John C. Dvorak]

Thank you, John and Adam for another year of superb media deconstruction and an overall outstanding product. Fellow producers join in to support the best podcast in the universe. John and Adam deserve that holiday bonus. Says Sir Scoby, Duke of the Piedmont. I know a lot of people want.

[Adam Curry]

To send blankets or water. Just send your cash.

[John C. Dvorak]

Boom.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Which brings us to Joe Henning who is in Flower Mound. He's our flower mound guy. $333.33. Hold on one second while I bring this note up to the proper size.

[John C. Dvorak]

The notes are a little bit fuzzy today.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it's interesting you noticed that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I thought it was my eyes, but no, it's. The notes are.

[Adam Curry]

It's just the camera. She probably had smudge on her lens.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Gents, thank you for your awesome show. I just love it. Please consider my first time donation at 33333 and give me a de douching.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

You've been de doubled.

[Adam Curry]

Wondering if you could put the word out. I'm looking for a CNC machine shop. A CNC machine shop to buy in the following areas. He wants to buy a machine shop in either North Texas, Austin. North Texas. Anywhere North Texas. Austin, San Antonio, Wisconsin, Denver or Colorado Springs. Anybody selling their machine shop, CDC machine, CNC machine shop. What does that mean?

[John C. Dvorak]

That's a computer assisted CNC.

[Adam Curry]

My target SDE or EBITDA. Range of 650,000 to 1 million.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's EBITDA. EBITDA, EBITDA. Hello.

[Adam Curry]

Interested parties or anyone who might know of something, please call or text me at. And he's got a number.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'll just.

[Adam Curry]

I'm going to read it out then you can play it back in. If you want to call them 262-623-2294. They can also email me at joetechwork t e k w e r k.com John or Adam, please spell out the email in addition to Ria. I just did that. Regards, Joe Henning.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow.

[Adam Curry]

So he's using this show to buy to do mergers and acquisitions.

[John C. Dvorak]

No agenda. We're here for your eminence. A Love it. Let me see. That brings us to Dame Cheryl from Pinedale, Wyoming. 333. And she also sent in a note. Then she says, good day gentlemen. I hope this finds you well. Thank you for breaking down all the latest news around the world, some of which is quite terrifying and downright mad. But coming from your voices, I can take it. You make me laugh. And for that I. I am grateful. Happy Christmas. Happy New year. Cheers to 2026, says Dame Cheryl, cowgirl of the Wind River Range in Boulder, wyoming. She says, P.S. can you guess this font? No, that's one for you, John.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, I'm not on the note.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh well, that's too.

[Adam Curry]

I'll go, I'll go, I'll go. It's on this page.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm going to say this is Geneva.

[Adam Curry]

Geneva, Vienna, whatever use whatever. That's. Take a look. Okay. Can you guess this font? Looks like time's new Roman to me.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, I'll take it. All right. Onward.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, now I got to go back with this since I haven't got a mouse, it makes it that much more difficult. We got Waterworks Plumbing. Okay, now this is a donation from Waterworks plumbing in Minnesota. $250 with no note. But give them a double up Karma. Before you do that, there's something, I think there was a run, like there was an overload or something at PayPal, so and so yet so people who sent in last minute donations after the newsletter, they all ended at 3:30 even though a number of them came in, including Gigawatt Coffee, Dame Astrid, a whole bunch of 60 buck donations. Some of them will be missed. So if you get your donation missed on today's show, send us a note if you had something to say and we will read it in a future show.

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean there was, there was, there was so many people were donating to the show that it clogged up the pipes.

[Adam Curry]

No, so many people were using PayPal. It wasn't any, nothing to do with our show. But all I know is that I kept downloading the spreadsheet and it ended at three o'clock yesterday when I was donations still coming in. And I waited and waited. I waited. I, I waited till midnight to go to bed. Still not still said 3:30 or whatever the time was. And so everything that came in after that either had to be put in by hand or there's going to be missed.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, so send us a note and here's the double up Karma.

[Adam Curry]

You've got.

[John C. Dvorak]

Karma for Waterworks Plumbing LLC, Patrick Brown from Fairfax, Virginia. Also 250 and no note. So we'll give him a double up. Karma as well.

[Adam Curry]

You've got.

[John C. Dvorak]

Karma.

[Adam Curry]

And in the same. In the same vein, Michael Raimondi in Hollis, New Hampshire. $250. Double up. Karma. You've got.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

Karma.

[John C. Dvorak]

And coming in with 242. We've seen that number before. It's Christopher Graves in Mount Occam, California. Happy holidays, John. Mount Occam is in El Dorado wine country not far from the shingle springs. Pick up some shingles. While we may have run out of eggnog fudge, by the way, dynamite, we can say we had 100 plus producers participate in our ITM 10 +10, bringing in an additional donation of $1131.30 from these brave knights and dames. No eggnog fudge. Well, we were inspired by gigawatt coffee and made an amazing chocolate mocha fudge for the new year. Shop littlejohnscandies.com and use ITM 10/10. You spelled that. Plus through January 10th. No jingles, just jingle bells. All right, thank you very much. It's an outstanding product. I love showing it to people and saying they've been doing this from 19. They've been supporting no Agenda since 1924 and making this fudge, and it's a hit. Everybody who eats this fudge just falls in love with it.

[Adam Curry]

North Idaho Sanity Brigade in Post Falls, Idaho. 23456. The favorite. On behalf of the North Idaho Sanity Brigade, here's another crowdfunded donation. Courtesy of our Christmas meetup, we have continued our once a week broadcast of North Idaho or hyperlocal park podcast, deconstructing the mainstream of the Idaho Panhandle. Noidshow.com no, I.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's a good podcast. They. They took my advice to heart. They're doing a hyperlocal podcast.

[Adam Curry]

To reiterate. Reiterate what we asserted when we last donated. Every region needs its own no agenda. Adam, can you give us an update on the no agenda hyperlogal podcast network you proposed?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, so far, you're the only. Only ones. But when we have more, we'll have a network.

[Adam Curry]

If you don't want to do it anymore, perhaps we'll reach out to Tom Green.

[John C. Dvorak]

Low blow. Low blow.

[Adam Curry]

Please play what's that in your mouth? The crowd chant version if we have it. I don't know.

[John C. Dvorak]

We do. It comes from them, so of course I have it.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, he's self promotion. That's good. All signed off as Sir Scott the Jew and the North Idaho Sanity Brigade.

[John C. Dvorak]

What's that in your mouth? There you go.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sir Rosas Associate Executive producer For this episode 222 a row of ducks. And he sent in a note. Greetings, Podo Sphere heroes. Please accept my humble donation and shout out to my lovely girlfriend's hand cut vintage tin jewelry shop. No remnants. Each piece is unique, being hand cut from vintage and upcycled biscuit and tea tins. She also has the history of every tin listed on her website. Where they were manufactured, what they were used for. She also accepts custom projects. If you have an item you'd like created into custom jewelry, no agenda producers, please check out najewelry shop or normanants.com. well, that's some good marketing right there. Najewelry Shop or Norm. I've also included a pair for each of your wives. Oh, I didn't see it come in.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, no, we. We have.

[John C. Dvorak]

Have you seen it? Are they nice?

[Adam Curry]

They're nice. I gave them the J. Did you.

[John C. Dvorak]

Did you wrap it up and say merry Christmas. I hope you have a happy Christmas. Uncle Adam and Uncle John. Cirrhosis, night of Show 1000. Any ads there at the end? I might be a baronet, but I'll get it sorted for the next donation. Perfect. Thank you very much.

[Adam Curry]

Dame Astrid came in from Tokyo. From Tokyo. 220, 26. They're John and Adam. You are all. You always will be the best. All caps. The Christmas special was much fun. And hearing Sir Chris's and Sir Felix's songs. I didn't know they were. I forget.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, they were in there.

[Adam Curry]

Huh? Brought us a real tear to my eyes. Thank you to Sir Donald Winkler for putting it together. Together. You're all such geniuses. Wishing you the keepers. All the lovely people in the back office and all the fantastic producers around the world. A happy New Year to celebrate some. Somewhere around the 10th of January, perhaps. That's. That's. That's your date referring to me, I think.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I believe so, yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Dame Astrid and Sir Mark, Archduchess and Archduke of Japan and all the disputed islands in the Japan Sea.

[John C. Dvorak]

Thank you. You, Dame Astrid.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, thanks.

[John C. Dvorak]

James Story from Lower Hut. Stokes. Stokes Valley. Let me see what this. Yeah, Stokes Valley in New Zealand.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah. That's our only New Zealand. It's funny because I had a New Zealand clip about. I don't know if I.50 shows ago. No, there's a show, I have a clip, I think, on today's show, but there's a big exodus and they're bitching and moaning in New Zealand about all the people leaving.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hold on, is that. That A bonus clip.

[Adam Curry]

Well, if it's on the list. Let's see.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't see any. I don't see it.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Rusky bloggers. I don't. I don't think you put it in.

[Adam Curry]

No.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's too bad.

[Adam Curry]

Would have been fun. Would have been.

[John C. Dvorak]

He says. Merry 220. Merry Christmas, gents. Thank you for your hard work this year. Best regards, Sir James Story from New Zealand.

[Adam Curry]

Thank you very much and. Okay, I lost. Lost word. Oh, Eli the coffee guy's up. He's in Bensonville, Illinois. $212. 2820. It says 28.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, today's the 28th. 2 12. 28.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, I always thought was the. Okay, yeah, you're right. What am I thinking? Happy New Year. We made it through 2025, and what a wild ride it's been. We've kicked things off Joe Biden. We kicked. We kicked things off Joe Biden as president. I don't know how that wording works, but. Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think he means we kicked things off with.

[Adam Curry]

With maybe. Yeah. ISIS on Bourbon street and a Special Forces operator self immolating in front of Trump Building on in Vegas.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow, I forgot about that. About all of that.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I forgot about the guy who lit himself. And somehow with everything that. That's interesting. And somehow with everything else that followed, it already feels like ancient history or forgettable history. Elon and Big Balls. Charlie Kirk, Katy Perry coming out as Trudeau's beard. And that's barely a highlight reel.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, I think time is compressing. Time is accelerating. Something's happening. It must be Three Eye Vision, whatever that comet is that's coming towards us now.

[Adam Curry]

We're sitting on the precipice of 2026 is the old Chinese saying goes, may you live in interesting times. Mission accomplished. Here's wishing everyone, everyone a peaceful and enjoyable New Year. To that end, here it comes. To that end, New year, new coffee. This Tuesday, 12:30, we're releasing our new bourbon Barrel aged Mexican Veracruz. Start the year off right, visit Gigawatt Coffee Roasters and grab a bag. Stay caffeinated. Happy 2026. Eli the coffee Guy.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's Gigawatt Coffee Roaster. Wow. I can't wait to taste that Bourbon Barrel aged Mexican Veracruz. Juliana Lee. Don't know where she's from, but she sent us 260 and says Merry Christmas. Thank you for everything. And we thank you very much.

[Adam Curry]

Ray Rials in LaGrange, Texas. 200, no note. Gives him a double up. You've got.

[John C. Dvorak]

The same goes goes for William spratt from Marietta, Georgia. 200 no notes. Also a double up. Karma for you.

[Adam Curry]

You've got.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

Karma.

[Adam Curry]

Onward to Linda Lupatkin in Castle Rock, Colorado. Wants a jobs karma and says hit the ground running in the new year with a resume that gets results. Go to ImageMakers Inc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs. That's Image Makers Inc. With a K. And work with Linda Lou, Duchess of jobs and writer of winning resumes. PS Loved Gitmo Nation Christmas. Jobs, Jobs, Jobs and jobs.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

Let's vote for jobs.

[Adam Curry]

Now.

[John C. Dvorak]

Typically, Linda Lupatkin is the last one on the list. But no, we have a few more associate executive producers with $200. All four of them we have Sir Donald of Calgary, Alberta, Alberta, Canada. He says, hi guys. Hope this note finds you well. After some time away in Edmonton, I moved back into Calgary, Alberta, bought a house and I'm looking forward to the referendum in 2026 for Alberta to become its own sovereign country. Are they doing a referendum in 2020?

[Adam Curry]

I don't know. I didn't know that.

[John C. Dvorak]

51St state, baby. It's a tall hill to climb, but it's worth it. My birthday is December 27th, so I will celebrate by donating to no Agenda. Thanks. Happy, happy Birthday. One day late. Thanks for the news and analysis from around the world. Hats off to the best podcast in the universe. Please put my birthday donation of $200 USD to good use. That's $273. 52 Canadian dollarettes and cents. After my knighthood in 2012, this donation brings my lifetime total donations to about 2050. So I'm now a double knight, which I think is is not a big a baronet.

[Adam Curry]

I think it's a baronet.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. Accounting below. Can you please play you Will obey? Trains good, planes bad. And R2D2 Karma. I think we can do that. Thank you for your attention to this matter says Sir Donald of Calgary, you will obey.

[Adam Curry]

You will obey. You will obey.

[John C. Dvorak]

All aboard. Trains good, planes bad.

[Adam Curry]

You've got.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

Karma.

[Adam Curry]

Derek Allison in Rock Springs, Wyoming. 200 bucks and he just simply says Merry Christmas. Was does have a jingle request. He'd love that Obama phone clip.

[John C. Dvorak]

Everybody in Cleveland low minority got Obama phone.

[Adam Curry]

Keep Obama in president.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

You know he gave us a phone.

[John C. Dvorak]

I found the longer version of it, but it's like a minute when he says Romney sucks. That's my favorite part. Sir Skizzle. We don't know where Sir Skizzle is from. Wait a minute. Sir Skizzle has a note. Let's see. Sir Skizzle where is Sir Skizzle? Well, this, I guess this is Sir Skizzle. Merry Christmas, John and Adam from Belfair, Washington. Next to the Hood Canal. John, if you want your windows cleaned, no charge. Thanks for everything, Sir Skizzle. 420. There you go. He's thinking of you at Christmas and wishing you all the best, according to his card.

[Adam Curry]

Now we go on to the last donation. And I had blown up the other one, and so I got to blow this one down.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's another note. Another note.

[Adam Curry]

Darris Morris. Yeah. These are all handwritten notes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Darice. Darice Morris.

[Adam Curry]

So you said Darcy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I messed up. It's Darice.

[Adam Curry]

So I messed up, too. So we both messed up. And then Darius Darice Morris Reese. It says right there.

[John C. Dvorak]

I love her handwriting.

[Adam Curry]

Right there at Clear as Bell. She writes it out. Da Reese.

[John C. Dvorak]

I love her handwriting.

[Adam Curry]

I do, too. It's very some. It's oddly sexy. To John and Adam. 200 bucks. I'm giving $50 for every time I've heard the word jamoke uttered by Adam. One of my dad's favorite terms. It's up to four as of today. So here's $200. Therese Morris.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, jamoke. Jamoke.

[Adam Curry]

Jamoke.

[John C. Dvorak]

Jamoke. I can't stop saying it now. You're gonna break the poor woman, Darice. Thank you, Darice.

[Adam Curry]

Jamoke.

[John C. Dvorak]

Jamoke. It's a good term. And thank you to all of these executive and associate executive producers for episode 1829 as we storm on towards the new year. And of course, we'll be than and the rest of our supporters, $50 and above. It is value for value. The whole idea is simple. No subscriptions. Don't have to buy anything. No Code Bon Geno's. If you get any value out of the show.

[Adam Curry]

Premium. Premium content.

[John C. Dvorak]

Premium content. All of our content is premium. And that's why you get to decide what it's worth to you. And you send that to us whenever you feel like it. We're happy to. Thank you. We're happy to read your note. We're happy to read your name on the show. We're just happy. We're some happy, happy. Go lucky guys.

[Adam Curry]

That's right.

[John C. Dvorak]

Go to noagendadonations.com Become a producer today. And congratulations to our executive and associate executive producers. Your names are now real valid credits. You can use them anywhere. I suggest opening up an IMDb account. Congratulations from the no Agenda Show.

[Adam Curry]

Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, that was good. Thank you. Thank you all very much. It was a nice, nice Christmas giving. Don't you all feel good about it? You should, you should feel very good because when you give, it always comes back to you. It always does. It's amazing how it works.

[Adam Curry]

I have to find the clip list.

[John C. Dvorak]

I have two little things I'd like to discuss here. I've been looking up some. So I came up with this term limbic capitalism. Limbic capitalism.

[Adam Curry]

You came up with the term or you ran into the term?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I came up with it, but I'm sure that it's been used, used before. I have a feeling. And limbic capitalism is basically everything. Is basically everything you see online. It's your, you know, it's your, your news feed. It's porn is limbic, you know, limbic being the brain stem. But also ultra processed foods qualify under limbic chemicals Capitalism. In essence, everything people are making money on these days is limbic capitalism. The number one being gambling. And I've been talking to a lot of the, the Zoomer Waffen and they all say, oh yeah, it's, it's out of control. And, and these, and these young people are so happy. Oh, I won 25 bucks with a prop. The eyes and the just. And because it's, it's not even about the money. It's just about the, it's that, that, that innate, natural, you know, dopamine, see the dopamine or in some cases cortisol, if you lose. It's all these things that your body needs to have these reactions, but they're just being created artificially mainly by Silicon Valley companies. And NPR had a report about sports betting and it was done by suffering succotash. I'm Scott. Simon. Now it's time for sports A World Series to cherish. An NFL dynasty deflates. Plus, what sport didn't have a gambling scandal in 2025? Sports writer Howard Bryant joins us. Howard, thanks for being with us. Hello, Scott. One gambling scandal after another in sports this year from the NBA, Major League Baseball, college basketball players suspended for gambling.

[Adam Curry]

And having bets on certain occurrences in.

[John C. Dvorak]

The game, which is how I'll describe prop bets in the year ahead.

[Adam Curry]

Do fans need to ask can I.

[John C. Dvorak]

Trust what I'm seeing? This day was coming and I think that the sports leagues had taken the position that I never agreed with. I never quite understood it. These players make so much money that they would not risk the adrenaline rush that comes with gambling. And we've seen that not to be the case. We've seen that Major League Baseball with Luis Ortiz and Emmanuel are involved in a scandal, they may never play again. We've seen the Johnta Porter in the NBA now the Chauncey Billups and Terry Rozier case. And the attitude has been that, well, essentially the leagues are going to take the money. The commercials are everywhere. I mean media is funded by DraftKings and FanDuel and the rest of it. And then the players take the fall. And so the more you watch these games with your high definition television and the controversial calls, especially in the NFL and the NBA, the more you begin to wonder are you watching a legitimate contest? And that is the death knell for sports. So the question's really going to be are you going to trust what you're watching or are we simply going to watch these athletes be the ones who individually get bounced out of the game and the game maintains its legitimacy? I think it's a very, very difficult balance And I think 2025 really showed that you're a sports ball guy. John, how do you feel about it? Is it ruining sports?

[Adam Curry]

It can. I think it's not good. I think gambling should be discouraged. And the fact that these guys are all in bed. ESPN now has ESPN BET. They talk about DraftKings but ESPN BET is like an operation run out of ESPN, the NFL and both the NFL and the NBA. I'm not sure about Major League League Baseball, but I know those two operations have done deals. So they're in bed with the gamblers. It's just like everybody, it's all the gamblers. It's gambler, gambler, gambler. And they push it and push it and push it. They got whole shows on ESPN about the betting lines and what you should be betting on. They have a couple of women in particular that I have watched on ESPN Bets, one of their shows who are quite good, good at this. And they're. And there's all a lot of prop bets. I think you should go with this. You should go. It's, it's just, it's disgusting.

[John C. Dvorak]

Here's Scott Simon choking up over it.

[Adam Curry]

But there was a historically great World Series.

[John C. Dvorak]

Los Angeles Dodgers defeated the Toronto Blue.

[Adam Curry]

Jays in a series that twisted, turned and set records.

[John C. Dvorak]

I love that he left that in. He choked on his own spit.

[Adam Curry]

Those guys all have cough buttons at those. At that. Oh yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, it was perfect. This is Scott Simon. Scott Simon at his best. Los Angeles Dodgers defeated the Toronto Blue.

[Adam Curry]

Jays in a series that twisted turn.

[John C. Dvorak]

Head set records over seven games.

[Adam Curry]

See, I'm choked up.

[John C. Dvorak]

You are. You're verklempt. It's incredible Scott. I mean that is the thing that we love about the games. Every time there's a scandal, whether it's steroids, whether it's gambling, when the game is played at its best, people come to it and they love it and it reminds them of all the reasons why they got hooked on the you know, in the first place when their team wins. It is that reminder of the power of what sports brings for us, you know So I, I, I was looking into this limbic capitalism and and to be fair about was Gemini that came up with the term. I'm like oh, I made up a term because it was my prompt and I like how can the no agenda show benefit from limbic capitalism? That was my prompt and I think.

[Adam Curry]

That, I think I'm glad the way you, I like the way you think.

[John C. Dvorak]

And it said well the no agenda show is in fact the antithesis of limbic capitalism. Yeah, I guess you're kind of right about that. But it had a suggestion for us. It had a limbic capitalism suggestion and who doesn't? It was, it was to randomly choose a below $50 donor to receive a special knighthood thereby spurring people on to gamble on the show. I can hear your wheels crunching.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, no, yeah, no, yeah, no.

[John C. Dvorak]

But I did like how it said that we are the antithesis of limbic capitalism which is true. Limbic capitalism hacks the system by offering super stimuli that trigger rewards more intensely and frequently than nature ever intended. Over time this bypasses the brain's executive function of self control leading to habit formation, compulsion and eventually addiction. Well there you go. There you go. That's it. That's it.

[Adam Curry]

Not good.

[John C. Dvorak]

We are addictive but not for your.

[Adam Curry]

Limbic not for that reason. We don't want to do that. That's in fact now I should mention it.

[John C. Dvorak]

We don't definitely out we are amygdala capitalism. That's what we are.

[Adam Curry]

Well talking about getting sick I have the I got the Rinvoak.

[John C. Dvorak]

Ad Rinvoak, what is Rinvoak?

[Adam Curry]

Rinvoak is one of these drugs and this is the contraindications and all the bad things that can happen to you from using renvo and lasting steroid free remission check check and check.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

Revoke can lower ability to fight infections before treatment Test for TB and do.

[Adam Curry]

Blood work serious infections blood clots, some.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

Fatal cancers including lymphoma and skin Serious allergic reactions GI tears Death Heart attack and stroke occurred CV event risk increases.

[Adam Curry]

In age 50 plus with a heart.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

Disease risk factor Tell your doctor if you've had these events infection hep or.

[Adam Curry]

C smoked are pregnant or planning don't.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

Take if allergic or have an infection.

[Adam Curry]

Put you see and Crohn's in check.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, it's for Crohn's disease.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, wow.

[Adam Curry]

And I think that, I think, I think what they're doing because I can't prove this because I didn't get the other clip but I think they have, they, they, they rattle off all these dangerous things that can happen different for the same companies, the same drug but they have a different ad and they have a different list.

[John C. Dvorak]

No interest.

[Adam Curry]

The way to get around. I think a way to get around the, the rules.

[John C. Dvorak]

So I've been searching for you. Actually not really searching. I've had my eye out because you were looking for a fourth or fifth vector in this particular story and it's from Reuters again. I'm pretty sure Reuters is using AI voices. Yeah, I said I'm saying it again because when you listen to it, it sounds like it. Were you not on the lookout for EEOC stories?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I believe so.

[John C. Dvorak]

Here we go. Under the Trump administration, the EEOC is.

[Adam Curry]

Ramping up scrutiny of corporate diversity programs. It's already opening inquiries into how companies handle sex and race in hiring and promotions. Our race and justice correspondent, David Hood.

[John C. Dvorak]

Nuno spoke with Lucas. Tell me this. And explains what's, Tell me this isn't AI.

[Adam Curry]

I, you know, I'm not convinced of it.

[John C. Dvorak]

The pauses are too lengthy. If, if someone did read, I'd be like, go and read it again. It's, it's, it's, it's too late.

[Adam Curry]

Driving this crackdown.

[John C. Dvorak]

So those priorities boil down to four buckets.

[Adam Curry]

One of them is attacking all forms of race discrimination, which includes diversity, equity and inclusion related race and sex discrimination. The second is dealing with religious liberty issues that spans the gamut of antisemitism to COVID 19 vaccine mandates. And then the third is gender identity and focusing on women's sex based rights. And then the fourth is national origin discrimination, which in her view is protecting American workers regardless of their race, which.

[John C. Dvorak]

Is a shift in the EEOC's mission, which used to protect workers against discrimination in the sort of traditional sense.

[Adam Curry]

And so this conservative view of civil.

[John C. Dvorak]

Rights is a massive pivot for the.

[Adam Curry]

Agency that has huge ramifications for, for.

[John C. Dvorak]

Companies, for employees, et cetera. Please tell me this is part of what you wanted to hear because it was. No, not at all boring to me.

[Adam Curry]

Hey, we have no. Do we. You picked, you purposely picked A very boring use. This is your way of getting back at me?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, I was trying to help you. I was trying to help you. We have the President and Zelensky on the quad screens.

[Adam Curry]

How are they doing? Are they fighting? Are they punching each other? Are they shaking hands? Is he putting his hand on this guy's shoulder and.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, they're over him. They're at lecterns. They're at lecterns with America. Well, let's. Let's listen in, shall we? Let's have a quick listen, something done.

[Adam Curry]

And if there's something that comes up, I'd speak, but otherwise I don't think there's any reason to. In your mind, sir, what are. What are the thorniest issues still unresolved after unresolved? The land. You're talking about some of that land.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right. They resolve nothing. All right?

[Adam Curry]

Of course not. This is just bull crap. Okay, I got a last series I. I'm going to do today.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right, let me guess.

[Adam Curry]

This is about. This from the BBC World Service is about Rush. Rush Rusky. Bloggers and podcasters in the training centers around the world, they're training these Russians. They're going to be attacking us with the bots and the bloggers and the podcasters.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, no.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, no.

[John C. Dvorak]

So. So we can be Putin's puppet once again. Can we go to these training centers? Is there money involved?

[Adam Curry]

If there was money involved, we'd be there already.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

Well, after Russian forces invaded and captured.

[John C. Dvorak]

Large parts of Eastern Ukraine over three years ago, now the Kremlin tightly controlled any information about life in Ukraine's occupied regions.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

But in recent months, one source of information has come from pro Russian bloggers and content creators. Their videos about life under occupation have gathered thousands of of online followers.

[John C. Dvorak]

The BBC's James Beardsworth has the story.

[Adam Curry]

Across Russian occupied Ukraine, hundreds of content creators are making slick, professional looking videos celebrating life under Russian occupation.

[John C. Dvorak]

Mariupol is becoming better and better every day. Its changes are literally shocking, says 23.

[Adam Curry]

Year old content creator Maria Chukina. One of hundreds of channels run by often young, attractive men and women, which broadcast pro Russian content from occupied Ukraine to tens of thousands of followers.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, this is great. So instead of what's probably true, that these people are happy because Ukraine was killing them previously, now they're just shills from Russia.

[Adam Curry]

I have no. You know, the validity of this story is somewhat baffling to me. I don't know if it's true or these people are just a bunch of propagandists, but it's Interesting. And I would expect something like this is like a good use of the medium if you're a propaganda outlet. I'm just fascinated by the story. I don't know whether any of it says.

[John C. Dvorak]

But here's the thing. They're speaking in Russian. It's not like they're talking to American audiences or European audiences.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, no, it's just for local consumption. Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

I like how this particular British North Sea Nexus reporter says yong. It's like H. That's another thing. There's a certain type of Brit that says H. H. Yeah. Instead of H, they say H. H. Yes. H. Code. No, one of my, one of my. One of my helicopter instructors was a Brit. He says, just land over there in the H. I'm like, where's the. What's the H? The H? The H over there. The H. Oh, you mean the H. Yes, the H. Young, young H. H, Younger H.

[Adam Curry]

A 21 year old from Mariupol. Despite her city being almost completely flattened.

[John C. Dvorak]

By Russia's invasion of H speech three.

[Adam Curry]

Years ago, Elizaveta now posts pro Russian content. Posing in front of the Russian flag and celebrating the Kremlin's rebuild of her city. I asked her why she began making her videos. She's voiced by one of my colleagues as she didn't want her voice to be broadcast.

[John C. Dvorak]

To be honest, I always want to create a content, even before all the famous events and when everything changed, I saw that my city was often presented on the Internet as a ghost town. And I wanted to show the reality that we are looking living, not what it's sometimes written in the news.

[Adam Curry]

The bloggers carefully choreograph their videos, often showing newly built apartment blocks, shops and restaurants built by Russia, but rarely mentioning the death and destruction caused by the war or who started it in the first place. Elizaveta told me more about how she believes her city has changed since Russia's arrival.

[John C. Dvorak]

There is a feeling that the city is coming to life, that the constant internal tensions it used to be in the background has gone.

[Adam Curry]

Like many other content creators in the region, Elizabetta learned how to make her eye catching content at the Donbass Media Center.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, there it is. The Donbass. So is this where Tim Pool got his training at the.

[Adam Curry]

That's where he got his money.

[John C. Dvorak]

The Don Bass Media Center.

[Adam Curry]

Don Bass Media Center.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, it's.

[Adam Curry]

Come on, podcasters. There's the Don Bass School of Podcasting.

[John C. Dvorak]

Call it that Donbass School of Podcasts.

[Adam Curry]

The centers offer free vocational video making courses to people under 25. Pavel Khodbovski is a blogger and teacher at the school.

[John C. Dvorak]

The Donbass Media center is a school of bloggers. A few hundred people have studied here in Donetsk, in Lugansk, in Mariupol, and one in Melitopol. It's very cool because somebody needs to say what is happening in our region in order to tell, let's say, residents of Britain or France, so that when they watch the content, they understand that their government or the Ukrainian government is trying to sell them something that is far from the truth.

[Adam Curry]

Ilya Yablokov is an expert on Russian disinformation at the University of Sheffield in the uk. He has been monitoring these schools. They've created this network of media centers, propaganda outlets, let's put them that way. That aggregate information, but also produce it.

[John C. Dvorak]

On an industrial scale.

[Adam Curry]

If you look at the picture, absolutely regular boys and girls, these guys are being trained to spread the message about the war in Donbass, or rather the peace in the Donbass. I put those claims to Elizaveta.

[John C. Dvorak]

I just live in my city and show my reality.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

I'm a patriot of my country.

[John C. Dvorak]

But this is not about work or promoting interest.

[Adam Curry]

Videos posted by the Donbass Media center show hundreds of teenagers doing presentations about what they call Russia's new regions with prizes, including trips to Moscow for the most successful students.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow. Maybe we could hand out Donbass Media center diplomas.

[Adam Curry]

That's actually not a bad idea since the Russians have. In the earlier report that you played, they've gone and with all nationalized everything and. And ip.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's right.

[Adam Curry]

So ip. That means they've given up ip. So the ip which is the Donbass Media center is moniker could. Is now public domain.

[John C. Dvorak]

There you go, we see.

[Adam Curry]

So we could give a degree for out from there. Well, I think there's one last clip for some of the millions forced to flee. Like former Mariupol resident Alena Kildeshova. The content which she says often appears on her social media feed is just.

[John C. Dvorak]

Another cruel reminder of a home she.

[Adam Curry]

Knows she may never be able to return to.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

How dare they. There were dead bodies all around the streets and now they are saying that Mariupol is in bloom. I can't understand how the city can be blooming on blood and rebels. That report from James Beardsworth there.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I'm not going to hire James Beardsworth who says, what kind of English are they speaking over there?

[Adam Curry]

You know, I had a conversation with Andrew Olowski recently over the. Of course, over the. Over the phone.

[John C. Dvorak]

Basically, yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And the English is a lot of these English guys, it's getting harder and harder to understand them. I noticed this when I was writing at PC Mag UK over the years I was there probably there for a decade. So I'd go to England at least twice a month a year, and I was there and it was just, I just started noticing that the English is harder and harder and harder to understand.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah. Must have been BBC regional.

[Adam Curry]

I have no idea.

[John C. Dvorak]

World Service. You said it was world.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, that was World Service. But it doesn't mean it was an original report. They just repurposed.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's the Christmas B team. That's what it is, Christmas B Team. I got three clips left in a series. This is is just thought it was interesting. It is from npr. This is about South America and how South America is loving Trump and is shifting. Right. Several countries.

[Adam Curry]

Wait, wait, where'd this come from?

[John C. Dvorak]

Npr.

[Adam Curry]

And they say South America loves Trump.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They say a lot of things. Well, of course it's all bad. Obviously it's not good.

[Adam Curry]

It didn't make sense.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, it's not good. He's in South America, elected conservative and even far right leaders in 2025. The goal here is to bring security and stability to the hemisphere, to the region, the region we live in, which has not received enough attention.

[Adam Curry]

For more, we go now to NPR.

[John C. Dvorak]

Correspondent, which you, by the way, called it. You called it that Rubio was going to be doing this. Rubio was focusing on South America and there he is in the clip. It's all his fault, of course, and he is. He's Trump's little minion in South America.

[Adam Curry]

For more we go now to NPR correspondent Kerry Kahn in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.

[John C. Dvorak]

Thanks for being here, Kerry.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

Hello, Daniel.

[Adam Curry]

Hello.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hello. So let's start just talking about this.

[Adam Curry]

Big turn to the right in the region.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

Overwhelmingly, voters are concerned about crime, violence and security and in the case of Chile, also illegal immigration. That, to me, is the significant shift in the landscape here. When the left took power. The major emphasis back then was economic inequality, social issues, the environment. Now it's safety. And the left just has not come through with either effective policies to combat the organized crime, violence, or credible promises that they're going to do something better. And the right has really straightforward tough on crime plans and slogans. And I'm not commenting on the quality of the rights proposals. All I'm saying is that they are resonating better with voters is great.

[John C. Dvorak]

Our hemisphere, this is exactly what we want. We wanted to turn against the communist socialist morals and values that have destroyed everything and they can't stand it.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, so what are some of those measures?

[Various Reporters/Guests]

Get tough on crime, like those made infamous in El Salvador. The mano dura iron fist policies that are just being emulated everywhere. Bring in the military to patrol the streets.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sound familiar?

[Various Reporters/Guests]

Build maximum security prisons, toughen sentences. And in many places, the population is more than willing to curb civil rights to combat that crime. Also, many just want to crack down on illegal immigration. Remember, nearly 8 million people have fled the authoritarian rule of Nicolas Maduro in Venezuela, and most have stayed here in this region. And the right has deftly conflated and merged the high crime fears and illegal immigration.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sound familiar?

[Various Reporters/Guests]

Like with the recent win in Chile by the ultra conservative there. He pledged to build fences, even dig huge ditches along the border, as well as start mass deportations of migrants.

[John C. Dvorak]

Does sound familiar. Wow.

[Adam Curry]

Which sounds a lot like Trump's pledges.

[John C. Dvorak]

Here in the U.S. there it is.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

Yes, no surprise that Trump's policies get a very warm reception. Deception. And they're being mirrored here too, among conservative voters and anti left voters. His military intervention against Venezuela and drug traffickers is very popular. Trump's also stepped in for many of his favorite candidates and his allies. There was that $20 billion bailout for Argentina's far right libertarian president.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hold on. Bailout for him? Well, it was a swap line is not quite the same as a bailout, but okay.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

And for many of his favorite candidates and his allies there, that $20 billion bailout for Argentina's far right libertarian president, Xavier Milei, that came right before he was facing a tough midterm election. And Trump pledges support for the new right leaders in Bolivia and in Chile. And the populist anti crime rhetoric is really working. Some have even coined it with a new term, security populism. Will Freeman of the Council on Foreign Relations was talking to me about that, and he said it's not surprising that this is gaining so much popularity given how powerful and rich organized crime groups have become here.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, killing fishermen is very popular in South America. It's amazing here. It's a big problem. They're like, yeah, kill those fishermen.

[Adam Curry]

Why are these crime groups becoming so powerful right now? I mean, hasn't organized crime been a problem for a long time in Latin America?

[Various Reporters/Guests]

Sure, but they're richer than ever. They're.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wait, sure.

[Adam Curry]

How to answer when you ask me something.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sure.

[Adam Curry]

You know, it just makes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sure, sure, sure. Well, it was a leading question. Let's hear it again.

[Adam Curry]

Why are These crime groups becoming so powerful right now.

[John C. Dvorak]

He answers his own question by saying.

[Adam Curry]

I mean, hasn't organized crime been a problem for a long time in Latin America?

[Various Reporters/Guests]

Sure, but they're richer than ever. They're making billions and not just from drugs, but migrant trafficking and increasingly illegal gold trafficking. Gold prices are soaring right now.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Now listen to the example that's coming up.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

And so is demand for drugs in the US and Europe and especially cocaine.

[John C. Dvorak]

We're coked up, man.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

It's on the rise, the use in the U.S. but cocaine use is at an all time high in Europe and so is coca production, and that happens mainly in Colombia. So most cocaine smuggling and transportation goes through Ecuador. And I just spent a lot of time there this year. And I spent time with this one banana farmer. And I just want to tell you a little bit about him. He battles extortion and kidnapping attempts by the cartels. He told me this one story that has stuck with me so much. He was visiting friends in Europe and they were all partying and someone pulled out cocaine. And he said he was just floored. He told them, don't you know what that has done? Your consumption has done to my country. And he said just the people at the party just could not connect. Connect the dots with him.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, wow. Oh, wow.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, wow. Ruby.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, wow. Hey, man, you're partying. Your partying is killing my country. Oh, wow. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Wow.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. By the way, we're closer to a deal than ever. According to the quad screen. Closer than ever to closer than ever. We are.

[Adam Curry]

So that means what? It means nothing. It means absolutely zip. I'm gonna show my support by donating to no agenda.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

Imagine.

[Adam Curry]

Imagine all the people who could do that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.

[Adam Curry]

And talking about meaning zip. Adam's gonna zip through the list of donors above $50 for the but last two shows. It'll take a little while. And here he comes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Is it really gonna take a while or is it that long?

[Adam Curry]

Well, it's 30 more than usual.

[John C. Dvorak]

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[Adam Curry]

That's nice.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, it is nice. Brian Kaufman, Scottsdale, AZ 7575 which is 6969 plus fees. Greg Hartloub in Cincinnati, Ohio. 7575 from Fat Dad, BMX North Little Rock, Arkansas. I haven't heard from him in a while. Thank you very much. Nicholas Leary in Columbus, Ohio. 72 72. John Alberini, parts unknown 7,026 Victorian and James in West Orange, New Jersey. Right near where I used to live. Verona, Montclair. $70.23. Dame Becky, Arlington, Washington 6,969 Semper Peachy LLC in Sherriville, Indiana. 6,886 Nice palindrome strike. Thank you. Bitcoiners 6,674 Robert Sauernheim, Nunheim, Nuneham Naderlund, OH65. Marco Massey, parts unknown 6,331. Matthew Elwart in Weatherford, Tex. Small boobs 6,006 Dame Liberty mom in Vista, California. Small boobs for her or from her 6,006. Christopher Witzel, Spirit Lake, Idaho. That is also a small boob. 6,006. Tim Heazel, Hanford, California 5,809 which is double nickels on the dime plus fees. Thank you for mentioning that. Preston Price, 5555 he's from Woodstock, Georgia. Jim Caslin in Buda, Texas 55. Hakon Anderson in Portland, Oregon. 5,272 Jonathan Denison, parts unknown 5,272 Nathan Gwynn, Jackson, Tennessee 5,272. Baron Henry of Outpost West Ranchos, Palos Verdes, California. 5,242 Cameron Ling or Linga, North Branch, Minnesota. 5,221. Forrest Martin with the Palindrome 5,005. Parts unknown. John Carini, Port St. Lucie in Florida. 50 01. Noah McDonald, Traverse City, Michigan. 50. These are all 50s. Alex Delgado, Aptos, California. George Wushutt in Lavernia, Texas. Mitchell Goheen in Silver Spring, Maryland. Lindsay Christensen in Santa Fe, New Mexico. Michael Biskegli in Staten Island. Oh, Staten Island. How you doing? That's New York. Brian Gately in Bayville, New Jersey. Scott Van Gelder in Centerville, Massachusetts. Benjamin Ryan in Alliance, Ohio. Richard Gardner, parts unknown. Aaron Weiss Gerber in Bend, Oregon. Laura Belini in Mobile, Alabama. Steven Jaffe in Ranchos Palos Verde, California. No name Christmas bonus. Thank you. Salt Lake City, Utah. Leanne Shipley in Covington, Washington. Michael Myers in Diamond Head, Missouri. Laura, Mississippi, Mississippi. Thank you. Laura Bertolini comes in again with $50. Thank you. For both shows. Automatic and Stephen Jaffe rounds it out. $50 from Rancho Palos Verdes in California. Nice list. Thank you all very much for supporting us through the Christmas holiday. It's highly appreciated. Of course, it's value for value, which means whatever you get out of the show, you just send it back to us. That is the value that we deserve. As long as you send something, we're totally happy with that. And of course, we never mention anyone under 50 for reasons of anonymity. We thank you all very much for your $49.99, your 33s, your 11s, your 12 12s, your threes, your fours. Whatever it is, it is value for value. Thank you very much and support the show. Go to noagendadonations.com support us with any amount, anytime you wish. In fact, you can set up a sustaining recurring donation, any amount, any frequency. Noagendadonations.com. Strangely enough, a very short list. David Kechta, also known, known as Melody. Happy birthday to his awesome stepdaughter, Bella green. She turned 24 on December 18. And Sir Donald of Calgary, as we heard earlier, celebrated his birthday on December 27th. That was yesterday. We say happy birthday on behalf of everybody here at the staff and management of the best podcast in the universe. Douchebag. Well, he's been around for a long time, so no chance of him being a douchebag. And he, he said he figured out the numbers, but it is the honor system. We trust you. Sir Donald of Calgary, Double knight is what he called it. But we just call you a baronet here on the no Agenda Peerage ladder, which I think is still available somewhere. Maybe noagendapearage.net or something like that. It's out there somewhere. Congratulations and thank you very much for your support, sir. And we do have one of the final awardees of a no Agenda Peace Prize. Thanks to his very peacemaking, peace loving donation of $1,000. Because that's all you need to do to receive this prize. Paul. Paul Lincoln's you are now an official recipient of the no Agenda Peace Prize. Please go to noagendaring.com and make sure that you to send us an address. We're to send this very handsome and very authentic looking. It's a Nobel Peace Prize like is what it is. But it's an official.

[Adam Curry]

It looks exactly the same. By the way, I should mention and make a correction here on you for peerage it's Dvorak.org peerage htm and is.

[John C. Dvorak]

That an updated list?

[Adam Curry]

Yes, this list has always been there. We haven't changed the peerage around.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh no, but I thought there was a list.

[Adam Curry]

No, no. Oh, a list of people. Yes. I thought you meant a list of the. Of the various levels.

[John C. Dvorak]

So let me correct you on your correction on me. Okay, you're corrected.

[Adam Curry]

Thank you.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hey, I forgot to give the jobs karma that was requested early on. Let me do that right now.

[Adam Curry]

Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

Let's vote for jobs.

[John C. Dvorak]

And we do have one dame and one knight to bring into the no Agenda round table. If you can bring out your blade, that would be just.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, right here.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's beautiful. Perfect. Very much. Thank you. Paul Lincolns and Rose, please step up on the podium. Both of you support the no Agenda showing the amount of $1,000 or more. I'm therefore very very proud to pronounce the Kate the as Sir Mama's boy of the arc welders and Dame Rosie Posey of the floor Flower child. These are great names for you. Of course we have Hookers and Blow Red Boys and Chardonnay. We've got the best Texas brisket and ice cold beer on tap as requested. Along with that we've got Rubin esque Women in Rose Geishas and Sake, Vodka Vanilla Bongheads of Bourbon, sparkling cider, Nescores gingerly and Gerbils, Breast milk and Mablum. Or if you so please, we've got the mutton and the mead. Congratulations to both of you. The last dame and night of 202025 you get a beautiful night or dame ring. Go to noagendaring.com you can see them right there. Let us know what your ring size is. We'll get it off to you as soon as possible. In the package you will find some wax. You can use that to seal your important correspondence and of course, as always, a certificate of authenticity. And thank you both for supporting the no Agenda show value for value and becoming knight and dame of the no Agenda Roundtable. No. 1. Yeah baby. It's always a party. And it doesn't matter if it's vacation time, summertime, winter time, springtime. There's always meetups taking place. You can find them [e-mail]. here is Scott the Jew with the North Idaho Sanity Brigade meetup the Christmas Extravaganza here at the Christmas Extravaganza with.

[Adam Curry]

The North Idaho Sanity Brigade. Why wouldn't it be? Sir Scott the Jew, your host for the evening.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is Jason here at Trails End Brewery.

[Adam Curry]

Want to miss everybody? A merry Christmas and a happy New Year.

[John C. Dvorak]

Jack from Post Falls here where we're not thinking of a white nationalist Christmas. Good morning. This is Brian Spook in the federal.

[Adam Curry]

Government from Post Falls.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sick of all the renouncing and the denouncing.

[Adam Curry]

I wanted to do a good old fair fashion announcing.

[John C. Dvorak]

So I would like to announce the no ID hyper local podcast for Northern Idaho. It has been announced.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

Brad the gold digging cowgirl here. Just wishing Adam and John and whole no Agenda family a merry Christmas and many blessings in 2026.

[Adam Curry]

Sir Donald of the fire bottles here, Secretary General of Greater Idaho. Even though that is not not what it says on my secretary General certificate. Hey guys, my name is Megan McLemore. I'm working at Trails End Brewery.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

And it was such a pleasure serving these guys again.

[Adam Curry]

It was so fun. Hey guys, who is the original podfather?

[John C. Dvorak]

Tom Green.

[Adam Curry]

Tom Green is the pod father.

[John C. Dvorak]

You people are horrible. Do you hear what they said?

[Adam Curry]

Tom Green.

[John C. Dvorak]

Tom Green.

[Adam Curry]

That's not right.

[John C. Dvorak]

You guys suck.

[Adam Curry]

When did that happen?

[John C. Dvorak]

I have no idea. I don't know. It doesn't matter to me.

[Adam Curry]

I mean Adam Carolla I thought was bad enough. Now it's Tom Green. He keeps shifting around.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hey, Leo Bravo.

[Adam Curry]

We all know. We all know. We're not idiots.

[John C. Dvorak]

Leo Bravo had his. Gosh, this must be number 70 by now up there in Los Angeles. Pretty wet, but they still had their meetup. Hey everybody, it's Leo Brava at meetup number 70 at Brewery X in Anaheim. Here's the phone for some greetings from our friends.

[Adam Curry]

Adam And John, Shabbat shalom. We're here at the meetup with Leo at Brewery X. Thanks for your courage.

[John C. Dvorak]

I love. We got one guy who is actually Scott the Jew, and then we got this guy doing Shabbat shalom. It's fantastic.

[Adam Curry]

ITM Dame Spider Prince, ITM Service mainframe of the 7th Fleet here. Defender of the Archduke and Duchess of.

[John C. Dvorak]

Japan and all the disputed islands in the Japan Sea.

[Adam Curry]

Chilling with Bravo Meister in SoCal. Hi, Adam and John.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

I'm Noemi from Philippines.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wishing you a happy Festivus, Merry Christmas and Gregorian calendar New Year.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, boy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hey guys.

[Adam Curry]

Good to be here. Good to be at Brewery X finally.

[John C. Dvorak]

Once again, adios, ghost mofo.

[Adam Curry]

Hello, fellow listeners. This is Sean at Brewery X with Leo Bravo supporting no agenda.

[John C. Dvorak]

I kill bugs for a living so.

[Adam Curry]

You don't have to in the morning.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

This is Lady Chanaka of California. Don't give up on us, Adam. We love Cali.

[Adam Curry]

And by the way, this is how the Tucker left goes. Gentlemen, gentlemen, gentlemen. I'm so happy to finally be here.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

With the ACJ CD crew. Thank you for having me in the morning. This is Angie from the ranch here at Brewery X.

[Adam Curry]

Great time.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

Come on down.

[John C. Dvorak]

We all bust our table. So you heard from the servers. Hey, Adam and John, it's Steve. Surviving.

[Adam Curry]

I'm out here in California visiting Leo and friends coming out from Wyoming.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is Becky saying, toodaloo motherfuckers. There's always one cusser in the bunch, isn't there? Also got a note from Shannon Summers. The Fort Wayne Club 33 Navidad post Christmas meetup. They had a six pack regulars and a fellow traveler, aka a newbie visiting from Arkansas and he's this had a great meetup so didn't provide a report but did a audio report but did provide a written report. So I wanted to give you that. These are the no agenda meetups. There's one taking place on Tuesday, that's the 30th. The Tri State Propagation version 1.0. Girt House in Evansville, Indiana. You need to RSVP for that. It may be at Gert's actual Gertrude first actual house and then we have a bunch coming up in January. Santa Rosa, California. Raleigh, North Carolina. Berg en Dahl in the Netherlands. Alpharetta, Georgia. Oakland, California, Los Altos, California. Many more meetups to be [e-mail] this is the place where you go to get connection. It always gives you protection. These are your first responders. In an emergency, go to one you will never Stop. You will keep going to them. They're a lot of fun. And you will meet children from other lands. Noagendameetups.com it's easy. And always a party.

[Adam Curry]

Feels the same. It's like a party.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right, everybody. Just like a party. We do have end of show mixes, a heavy metal diddy from Baron Darren coming up. He did that because John wanted to hear a different kind of voice on the AI Slop song. So you got that. And this is where we also. Oh, of course.

[Adam Curry]

I should mention, anything would be better than the Pogues.

[John C. Dvorak]

People say it's the best Christmas song ever.

[Adam Curry]

I'm like, no, it stinks.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, that's not what it is. It's a no agenda, happy New year song is what it is. And it's good. And we got some MVP with some big, beautiful ships and. And scary weather. It's all slop and it's all good. You'll love it. End of show isos, which you always choose here in this very moment. This is always the man versus the machine, where John prompts his way to victory. And I just get real people, so I'm gonna play mine first. Here's the first.

[Adam Curry]

They nailed it. I like it.

[John C. Dvorak]

I know you do. How about this one? We know know what we're doing.

[Adam Curry]

No, we got the documents.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is. I like this one too. Okay, so I'll delete those two and you. This one's still in the running.

[Adam Curry]

They nailed it.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's in the running. All right.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it's not bad.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right, what do you got?

[Adam Curry]

I have a real one. I always put a real one in when I can. I got where I got. I think this would be great. This is the wherever.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

Wherever you get your podcast, huh?

[Adam Curry]

Perfect ending.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, well, let's go with great, great show again.

[John C. Dvorak]

And as usual. No, no, you need to come up with better one.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, okay. Okay. Let's try this one. This is at least has. Has a message. Donate equals.

[Various Reporters/Guests]

That was a show to remember.

[John C. Dvorak]

So donate. It's just not grabbing me.

[Adam Curry]

All right, you can win this one.

[John C. Dvorak]

I will win this one. And we' Tip of the day.

[Adam Curry]

And sometimes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Adam. Last one. Last one of the year.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah. Well, this is the time to clean up the mess of these storms are creating. And a lot of people have blackberries. Blackberries and blackberries. You ever heard anybody blackberries in your yard? A lot of people do.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. No. Okay.

[Adam Curry]

They're invasive. Well, in Texas, I don't think you can grow berries.

[John C. Dvorak]

No.

[Adam Curry]

But Much of the country we grow shrews. You need these gloves. These are hand landy rose pruning gloves for men and women. Long thorn proof gardening gloves made out of pig skin. They're gauntlets. Best garden gifts and tools for a gardener. They're only set. They're about 17 bucks. They have a different styles, but they're gauntlets. These giant gloves that go over your, over your forearms and they're. They got pigskin. You can pull stuff out of the ground that's got thorns and it's good for roses and, and specifically blackberries.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, so these go all the way up to your elbow?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, pretty much.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, that.

[Adam Curry]

That's if you're getting all cut up.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well, I used to work in the, in the rose nursery as a kid in Holland.

[Adam Curry]

Well, you would. You. These gloves is what you wanted.

[John C. Dvorak]

We did. We had. Had bare hands and that sucked. And our arms were completely scratched from.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, no, this will keep that from happening.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well, I'm not going back.

[Adam Curry]

They're cheap.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm a podcaster. I'm not a rose picker. I'm a podcaster. That's an interesting one. You know, I gave Tina the knife tip of the day for Christmas.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

And as a gag, I gave her the gloves that you recommended. The chainmail gloves.

[Adam Curry]

The chainmail gloves, yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

It's not a gag. It's actually a good idea, but it's a little insulting.

[John C. Dvorak]

Have you ever seen a lefty cut something with a big shot?

[Adam Curry]

It makes me cringe to think about a lefty cutting anything.

[John C. Dvorak]

There you go, everybody. It's John's tip of the day. Find it all. Noagendafun.com and tipoftheday.net.

[Adam Curry]

And sometimes Adam created by Dana Berdetti.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, there it is. Is the last show of 2025. We will be working on your New Year's Day. All is quiet on New Year's Day, but we will be working for you because there may be peace in Ukraine closer than ever. Don Bass Demilitarized zone. Still not worked out. Yeah. Surprise, surprise. Hey. Just to wind up your Christmas joyous Spirit week. Now Nick the Rat is next with his Christmas. What does he call this show? It's the merry predictions. Oh, boy. When the rats are predicting things, it's time to jump ship. That's all I know. So thank you once again for being here. Trolls. Noagendastream.com thank you to our producers. Thank you to the producers who supported us financially. It is all highly appreciated coming to you from from the heart of the Texas hill country where it's still kind of Christmassy. It's Fredericksburg Texas in the morning everybody.

[Adam Curry]

I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where I remain, I'm John C. Dvorak.

[John C. Dvorak]

Baron Darren o' Neill coming up in the end of show mixes and two back to backs from nvp. We'll be back on Thursday. Please join us and as always remember us atnoensafe donations.com. until then, adios mofos who Ooey hooey and such.

[Adam Curry]

Hit it. A residence of Kitmo nation. Can you believe it's true?

[John C. Dvorak]

We've made it through another year of the insane media zoo we have.

[Adam Curry]

The calendars are changing and the resolutions are being made. Don't forget to do your part.

[John C. Dvorak]

Your favorite podcast of campaign It's a low agenda new year it's time to celebrate to open up your eyes before it's just too late.

[Adam Curry]

It's our base of value from now simple process to wish to a year.

[John C. Dvorak]

Support your favorite shows Today is a.

[Adam Curry]

No agenda new year the battle Curry is a for some lad is a legend too the potfiler and the cranky geek Come on in forces just for.

[John C. Dvorak]

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[Adam Curry]

It'S just too late it's all based on valley from here support your favorite shows Today is a no agenda new year.

[John C. Dvorak]

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[Adam Curry]

What the new national.

[John C. Dvorak]

Happy New year Big Mo nation. From all of us that no agenda.

[Adam Curry]

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[John C. Dvorak]

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[Adam Curry]

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[John C. Dvorak]

Don't open the door. Don't open the door. Check first with Live in Fear Doppler only from big news weather central. Mom, it's starting to rain. The blueprints came in gold leaf the rivets made of chrome we're building something.

[Adam Curry]

Massive right here at us home with.

[John C. Dvorak]

Marble on the gun deck and a fountain in the rear. We're sailing to Venezuela just to make em disappear. It's got the tallest towers it's got the loudest horn the greatest piece of hardware that was ever naval born. Oh, the Trump class is coming. Cutting through the blue With a thousand foot antenna and a penthouse for the crew if a boat gets in the way, well, it's gonna have a crisis we're winning in the tropics and the.

[Adam Curry]

Deck is full of spices it's the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Biggest, it's the baddest it's the gold plated flee Turning every little harbor into Wall Street.

[Adam Curry]

Total sea dominance Trump is very classy Need a new South America government. I'm feeling sassy. The best podcast in the universe.

[John C. Dvorak]

Adios, mofo.

[Adam Curry]

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