Adam Curry (2:32)

But he got hit too.

John C. Dvorak (2:34)

Yeah, he did. Oh, yeah. No, you could see it. But you know, then to, you know, triple tap. I mean, it's hard to say what you do in a moment like that, but I. Oh yeah.

Adam Curry (2:44)

Every time you see these cops shooting, they unload their. The gun if they can.

John C. Dvorak (2:50)

Well, I think it's 1, 2, 3. That seems to be Kind of the training that's like. It seems like it kicks in and that's what he did. What was interesting, the story that hasn't, I don't think has been told yet, is that this woman. Wait, what's her name? Good. No, you have to say her name. Say her name.

Adam Curry (3:15)

Good. Say her name.

Various Interviewees/Clips (3:17)

Good.

John C. Dvorak (3:18)

Say her name.

Various Interviewees/Clips (3:19)

Renee. Good. Say Renee. Renee. Good.

John C. Dvorak (3:23)

Say Renee.

Various Interviewees/Clips (3:24)

Renee.

John C. Dvorak (3:25)

Good. It is exactly the George Floyd stuff. It's a carbon copy, although it's not a man. It's a woman. And she was white. But her wife, I don't think this was told yet. Her wife. Her wife is the one who told her to come down and lead this protest. And she was, she was leading the protest, blocking ice. It's like.

Adam Curry (3:52)

Well, here I have the clip that explains some of that. This is from Jesse Waters.

John C. Dvorak (3:57)

He.

Adam Curry (3:57)

He didn't have any trouble saying she was a lesbian.

Various Interviewees/Clips (3:59)

Mm.

Adam Curry (4:02)

Where is it on here? Minnesota shooting. Jeff.

John C. Dvorak (4:08)

I don't see it.

Adam Curry (4:09)

Woman backgrounder.

John C. Dvorak (4:11)

There it is.

Adam Curry (4:12)

Kristi Noem, who is in Minneapolis today overseeing operations, is describing it as an.

John C. Dvorak (4:17)

Act of domestic terror.

Adam Curry (4:19)

Multiple eyewitnesses have confirmed that this activist was screaming, yelling, disrupting ICE operations all day.

John C. Dvorak (4:27)

One witness says she was the main.

Adam Curry (4:30)

Car leading the protest.

Various Interviewees/Clips (4:32)

You know, think she was the target? I don't know if she was a target. They clearly wanted her out of there because she was the main car leading the. The protest is my understanding. I talked to another guy who was driving behind her, but she was very successful in blocking traffic. She was doing what she was set out to do and so they wanted to get her the hell out of there.

Adam Curry (4:59)

The woman who lost her life was a self proclaimed poet from Colorado with pronouns in her bio. A 37 year old white woman named Renee Good. The Daily Mail says she leaves behind.

John C. Dvorak (5:11)

A lesbian partner and a child from a previous marriage.

Adam Curry (5:15)

She was a disruptor, though she considered herself a legal observer. But there's no evidence she had a law degree. Different angles show different things.

John C. Dvorak (5:25)

You can see here the officer was.

Adam Curry (5:27)

Actually hit by the car.

John C. Dvorak (5:29)

Yeah. Even the angle that's. I mean, if you don't have the context then of what he just said, that, that, that was good context. She was leading it the whole day. When did people become so emboldened and Chicago does this too, that they think they can just assault ICE officers, How does that happen? And in what world do you think that that can't turn out bad?

Adam Curry (5:53)

This was discussed in a couple of different. By a couple of different people claiming that this only takes place this Never happens in an area where you don't have political cover, where it's encouraged by the governor in this case, and Minnesota encourages it. They say get to put your body on the line, get out there.

John C. Dvorak (6:16)

Really?

Adam Curry (6:17)

Yeah.

John C. Dvorak (6:18)

Wow. Do you have any clips of that? I'd love to have that.

Adam Curry (6:23)

Well, I have a bunch of analysis from NTD that might have something to do with it. Let's play these clips. This is a Minnesota shooting analysis ntd.

Various Interviewees/Clips (6:34)

Joining us now is Kyle Scheidler, director and senior analyst for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism at the center for Security Policy. He's also the editor of the book Unmasking 5% Perspectives on a Growing Threat. Kyle, thank you for joining us tonight. Now, tensions are already beginning to flare in Minnesota following this killing with protesters this afternoon showing aggression towards police, driving them out of the crime scene. In your assessment though, what are the chances this shooting sparks retaliation from anti ICE and other far left groups? And what could this look like?

John C. Dvorak (7:07)

Well, I think it's probable. We have already seen in some far left extremist social media calls to use arms to pick up arms against police in response to this incident. So the rhetoric is certainly hot. It is certainly there. We've seen attacks, violent perpetrated ambushes against ICE officers in the past already. So it's certainly within the skill set of some of these far left extremist actors.

Various Interviewees/Clips (7:34)

Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fry this afternoon accused federal immigration agents of, quote, causing chaos. He said Minneapolis is demanding ICE to leave the city immediately. What do you make of the mayor's response, seemingly putting the blame on federal agents here?

John C. Dvorak (7:51)

Look, none of this would be happening if the state of Minnesota and the city of Minneapolis did not illegally act as a sanctuary city trying to shield criminal illegal aliens from deportation. If they cooperated with the federal government and federal law enforcement in upholding immigration law, as do most of the states in this country, they wouldn't be having these kinds of situations. They deliberately inflame these situations with their sanctuary city policies. And then when federal law enforcement attempts to uphold the laws they are sworn to, do they take the side of radical protesters against the, against the federal government. Does he expound further on the antifa angle? Because that's kind of cropping up everywhere. Germany has been out of, you know, parts of Berlin have been on blackout because Antifa, as they say, has been blowing up power plants using some kind of relatively sophisticated method. I mean, this could be more of a worldwide problem, which I painted.

Adam Curry (8:57)

Well, it would surprise me if it was worldwide. There was an ant I Saw an antifa flag in protest. Was, Was. It was one of, Was either it, Was it the Venezuela? No, it was.

John C. Dvorak (9:11)

I doubt that.

Adam Curry (9:11)

I can't remember, but I, I, I took a screenshot of it. I didn't follow up.

John C. Dvorak (9:16)

Listen, well done, well done.

Adam Curry (9:18)

Yeah, but, you know, there's only so much stuff you can do. I didn't get any of the Berlin stuff, and Mimi is always hounding me. They were blacked out in Berlin. They're freezing to death.

John C. Dvorak (9:27)

Yeah, it's true, it's true. It's bad.

Adam Curry (9:30)

Yeah. But, you know, it's only so many hours in the day to get this research, but let's go. I got two more clips, guy.

John C. Dvorak (9:36)

All right, here we go now.

Various Interviewees/Clips (9:37)

Minnesota Governor Tim Walsh this afternoon announced that he issued a warning order to prepare the Minnesota National Guard to, quote, protect Minnesotans from rogue ICE agents. How would an order like this work, ordering state law enforcement to act against federal law enforcement?

John C. Dvorak (9:54)

Well, in practice, I don't see much likelihood of that being the case. In all likelihood, I think probably Governor Waltz is trying to get ahead of President Trump ordering the Minnesota National Guard to Minneapolis by having the state activate them first. I don't anticipate that there being a real probability of conflict between the National Guard and federal law enforcement. In most cases, they have very good cooperating relationship. If need be, President Trump could certainly federalize the Minnesota National Guard if Governor Waltz was to attempt to use it in a way to prohibit federal law enforcement officers from doing their job. That certainly has sort of shades of some of the incidents in the 1960s where the federal government deployed National Guard and even active military forces to some of the Southern states to uphold civil rights legislation and to enforce segregation desegregation. So Tim Waltz really is finding himself on the wrong side of history here with some of his rhetoric. Let me just play some of that rhetoric. I think it's like a minute here at the end of this clip of what he said because he made it sound very different than our analyst here.

Adam Curry (11:11)

We won't let them tear us apart, will not turn against each other.

John C. Dvorak (11:15)

To Minnesotans, I say this. I feel your anger.

Adam Curry (11:18)

I'm angry.

John C. Dvorak (11:19)

They want to show we can't give it to them. We cannot if you can't give them what are on our side. To Americans, I ask you this. Please stand with Minneapolis to Donald Trump and Kristi Noem. You've done enough.

Adam Curry (11:34)

There's nothing more important than Minnesotan safety.

John C. Dvorak (11:36)

I've issued a warning order to prepare.

Adam Curry (11:38)

The Minnesota National Guard. We have soldiers in Training and prepared.

John C. Dvorak (11:41)

To be deployed if necessary.

Adam Curry (11:42)

I remind you, a warning order is a heads up for folks. And these National Guard troops are our National Guard troops. They're teachers in your community. They're business owners.

John C. Dvorak (11:52)

They're construction professionals.

Adam Curry (11:54)

They are Minnesotans. Minnesota will not allow our community to be used as a prop in a national political fight.

John C. Dvorak (12:00)

We will not take the bait. So he's saying, hey, you know, these are our people. They're going to go fight the government forces.

Adam Curry (12:06)

Yeah, sure they are.

John C. Dvorak (12:08)

But the, but the president can nationalize them.

Adam Curry (12:11)

I don't think he needs to because there's nothing going to happen. This is all talk.

John C. Dvorak (12:15)

Yeah, well, it's. It's all unfortunate. The whole thing is just. It sucks. And now there's a guy with a Black Lives Matter T shirt. Okay, all right.

Adam Curry (12:24)

Well, you're still looking at the quad.

John C. Dvorak (12:26)

How can you not? It's like, it's non stop and it's like a loop over and over and over again. All right. Oh, yeah, we're programmed. We get it.

Adam Curry (12:35)

This is all designed to get more votes for the. For the midterm election.

John C. Dvorak (12:39)

Absolutely, absolutely.

Adam Curry (12:40)

And so do you. So your quad screens are open. The media's desperate to get the Democrats back in.

John C. Dvorak (12:47)

You know what's interesting? Ever since the Venezuela op, it is so apparent, and it's kind of good, that, that we deconstruct media. It is so apparent that the mainstream media, despite their low viewership, the incessant repetition and breadth of where they can post and broadcast, it does determine the narrative of the. Of the podcast Circle Jerk. They all immediately switch. Like, no one. Oh, no one's talking about Israel. Where's the Mossad in all this? Charlie Kirk, he's dead. He's gone. We don't talk about that. I mean, you know, we don't even care about the Macron brothers. All of this stuff is just in one fell swoop. It's all gone. And interestingly, the biggest story, which of course is Venezuela and the fallout from that and the subsequent Cuba, Colombia, Greenland. We'll talk about that. That also just all wiped off the table. Now it's all George Floyd ii. It's insane. And just listen to the podcast. That's all they're talking about because they just got to go on the narrative. Maybe it's because they're doing a show every day. If we had to do this show every day, I guess we'd do the same. Be like, what's going on, man? Well, but this is the hot news. Everyone's talking About.

Adam Curry (14:04)

Well, well, here's the. Yeah, you, you actually, you might be right because if we did a show every day, we couldn't do any research.

John C. Dvorak (14:11)

No, you and I would just be talking.

Adam Curry (14:14)

Yeah. Which is what most podcasts do.

John C. Dvorak (14:17)

Let's yak, yak, yak about some. What do you see on tv? Well, let me yak about that. Oh, what is Matt Walsh saying? Whoa, what is Tucker saying? Whoa. What is it ale talking about?

Adam Curry (14:31)

Yeah, that every day is. Yeah. Unless we had a, even if you had a staff. Okay, here we go. Last, last of these analysis clips on this.

Various Interviewees/Clips (14:38)

Well, most regular Americans would never harm law enforcement. How in your experience is this kind of messaging interpreted by already radical individuals?

John C. Dvorak (14:49)

Well, I think what it sends the message is that if they, if they act, if they attempt to foment a riot or an unlawful assembly, they can expect some level of political cover. Where far left extremists think that they will get political cover from local or state politicians, they have a tendency to be a little bit more aggressive. We've certainly seen that in the case of Portland, in Oregon, in Seattle, in Washington state, for example, in places where they know they will not get political cover, these sorts of protests tend to be disrupted relative relatively early. They tend to stay more peaceful. And I think it really is important for the politicians in some of these areas to get out ahead of this stuff and say, look, you know, you can have whatever political opinion you want, you are allowed to be upset, you are allowed to protest lawfully, but we will not countenance any criminal activity. We will not countenance rioting, will not countenance attacking police officers, whether local, state or federal. It's interesting, you know, you said about doing research. I was talking to Tina about the, the history of Venezuela, which we talked about on the last episode, and she says, well, how come, how come Megyn Kelly, she has, she has a staff. She has a staff, Millions of dollars, which may or may not be true. I don't know. But how come they, they have staffs, how come they don't do this? What is going. I said because that's not. Because they're dumb. They're no good. They're just about.

Adam Curry (16:22)

They're no good. That's the real reason.

John C. Dvorak (16:25)

They're no good. They just want clicks and smash that subscribe button and watch my clips. Nobody watches a full Megyn Kelly anymore. They just watch the clips on YouTube, which I don't even think she can monetize properly. I don't know.

Adam Curry (16:38)

I noticed this too. I didn't Realize, because I'm still looking at Fuentes now and again and the clips that he does the same thing, and all these. The negative things that everyone thinks about.

John C. Dvorak (16:51)

Fuentes is all from the clips.

Adam Curry (16:53)

It's all from his own clips that he did. Yeah.

John C. Dvorak (16:57)

He's good.

Adam Curry (16:58)

It's not somebody else doing the clips. He purposely puts together clips that are taken out. He takes his own stuff. This is genius in some funny way. Oh, he takes his own material out of context.

John C. Dvorak (17:10)

Yeah. And then posts it. Yeah, well.

Adam Curry (17:13)

And he gets everybody all riled up.

John C. Dvorak (17:15)

Yeah. And then, you know, you actually go and watch it. It's like, ah, I'm tired. I mean, it's nothing to watch, really. He's someone I just want to listen to. I can't watch him. He's just a dude behind a desk for two and a half hours. Imagine if we had video. Imagine if we had video. People like, what is this? What are these boomers doing? I don't want to watch that unless.

Adam Curry (17:35)

We'Re smoking behind the desk.

John C. Dvorak (17:37)

Smoking cigars. And I want to play this. The response from Kristi Noem, who I just find to be such an interesting character. Now she's got a big cowboy hat.

Adam Curry (17:50)

Yeah. She likes getting. She's causing, like, a cosplayer wannabe. She's always dressed up. She wears the DHS style. The DHS uniform. Yeah. Camo. She'll wear a bulletproof vest during a press conference.

John C. Dvorak (18:09)

So she's dressed like the sheriff. I don't. She's a fascinating person to look at, and here's what she said.

Various Interviewees/Clips (18:17)

You asked about a shooting that we just had in Minneapolis, Minnesota. It was an act of domestic terrorism. What happened was our ICE officers were out in enforcement action. They got stuck in the snow because of the adverse weather that is in Minneapolis. They were attempting to push out their vehicle, and a woman attacked them and those surrounding them and attempted to run them over and ram them with her vehicle. An officer of ours acted quickly and defensively shot to protect himself and the people around him. And my understanding is that she was hit and is deceased. We're continuing to gather more information, but this goes to show the assaults that our ICE officers and our law enforcement are under every single day. These vehicle rammings are domestic acts of terrorism. We're working with the Department of Justice to prosecute them. As such, we will continue to protect our ICE officers and inquire, how does.

John C. Dvorak (19:11)

She get domestic terrorism out of this? Unless it's political. I just don't see the connection. Doesn't terrorism by Definition have to have a political. Well, I guess it is in a way. It's about the midterms, but I think it's a stretch. Yeah, feels like that, too.

Various Interviewees/Clips (19:30)

Operation with other law enforcement agencies as well. You've seen me in the last couple of days deploy over 2,000 more officers to the Minneapolis area. And in the last two days, we've arrested hundreds and hundreds of dangerous criminals, not just fraudsters who stole from the American people billions of dollars and put it in their pockets and enriched their friends from overseas and themselves, but also individuals who committed acts of murder and rape and trafficking and drug exploitation and child exploitation. So we're going to continue to do our work. And I want to remind everybody that the act like we saw today of using a vehicle to try to kill an officer and his colleagues and the other people around him is something that every politician, every elected official, everyone in this country should be able to rally around and say that it is wrong and that sanctuary cities and sanctuary states that protect individuals who do that should no longer be allowed.

John C. Dvorak (20:30)

So that is the. I just call it the counter narrative at this point. If you look at the media and of course, you know, I'm sure that Candace and the folks at Redacted will be examining every frame of the video. Bring in the experts. Did he hit her? Did she hit him? Did she hit. Did she not hit him? Were the wheels turned in the right direction? So out of context. So here's the narrative being launched by the mayor, Jacob Frey. I think he's the mayor, right. Of Minneapolis.

Adam Curry (21:00)

Yeah, Guy.

John C. Dvorak (21:01)

He's on with pooper.

Adam Curry (21:02)

Mayor, I appreciate you talking to us. You heard the comments from President Trump, from Secretary Noem. They say the ICE officer acted in self defense. There's obviously a huge disagreement about what the videos show. Have you completely made up your mind or do you still have questions?

John C. Dvorak (21:15)

Well, we know what his mind is at. I'm not going to preempt the investigation that will be taking place, I'm told by the Bureau of Criminal Apprehension at the state. But I got two eyes. I saw the same videos that you saw. And the notion that this is domestic terrorism on the form of the victim. Yeah. Is positively ridiculous. I mean, the way that ICE is behaving is reckless, not just in this incident, but numerous others. And here's the thing. The chief and I have been saying, not just privately, but very publicly for well over a month, that something like this was going to happen. Either a civilian, a police officer, or even an ICE agent getting injured badly or killed. And so Look, I saw exactly what happened. I mean, what you saw was the victim taking at least like a three point turn.

Adam Curry (22:09)

This was clearly not what, with any.

John C. Dvorak (22:11)

Sort of intention to run somebody over.

Adam Curry (22:13)

But to get out of here.

John C. Dvorak (22:15)

And you don't need a legal degree.

Adam Curry (22:17)

To know that that does not all.

John C. Dvorak (22:19)

Authorize the use of deadly force. Yeah. This is the narrative based upon the video. We all saw the video. You saw the video, didn't you? I saw the video. I saw it with my own two eyes. The video. So that, that is the counter narrative or the narrative I should say is like she was trying to get away. No, but there's no context of what happened before. I got another clip here from this guy.

Adam Curry (22:41)

Secretary Noem criticized you directly in a news conference a short time ago. I just want to play that and let you respond.

John C. Dvorak (22:45)

Yeah. Why does it take so long to start your clips?

Various Interviewees/Clips (22:48)

Because Governor Wall and Mayor Fry refused to protect Minnesotans and instead they protect these criminals. That's why we are here. And we didn't just show up yesterday. We've always been here. By not working with us, Governor Walz and Mayor Fry are putting those criminals and prioritizing them over our children and our grandchildren.

John C. Dvorak (23:08)

The Secretary's Adam and ICE is staying.

Adam Curry (23:10)

You're calling for ICE to leave.

John C. Dvorak (23:11)

What happens now and what do you say to her? First off, when I hear that, that sounds to me like someone that does not believe a word that she is saying. We have worked with federal agencies, by the way, this is a good clip. What?

Adam Curry (23:29)

This is a good clip.

John C. Dvorak (23:30)

Yeah. This guy, he's amazing. This guy, I mean, he. He's the liar around investigating violent crime, preventing narcotics trade, getting guns off the street. We've worked with the U.S. attorney's office substantially, we've driven down crime. On the north side, for instance, crime is. And specifically shootings are at an historic low. So look, look, we're pro law enforcement, we're anti violating the constitution, we're anti crime. But we're pro getting ICE out of here. Because I gotta say, they are causing so many problems in our city. You know, the stated reason, again, is safety. But what we are seeing is that they are tearing families apart. Finally, we are seeing people that are terrified to go outside, go to their local businesses. And now exactly what we said would likely happen, happened. I hate to be right here. Hate to be right.

Adam Curry (24:27)

Oh, brother.

John C. Dvorak (24:27)

There was. There's also another narrative.

Adam Curry (24:29)

Hate to be right.

John C. Dvorak (24:31)

There's another narrative launched by what's his name here. This is Hakeem Jeffries. Let's Listen to him.

Various Interviewees/Clips (24:39)

First up, Representative Hakeem Jeffries of New York, leader of the House Democrats. I spoke with him this afternoon and started by asking his assessment of what happened in Minneapolis today.

John C. Dvorak (24:50)

There is no evidence that has been presented to justify the shooting of an unarmed woman resulting in her unnecessary death. Kristi Noem, the so called Secretary of Homeland Security. So called. So called.

Adam Curry (25:08)

That's her job. She's got the job. She was. She was approved by Congress. She's not so called.

John C. Dvorak (25:14)

So called.

Adam Curry (25:15)

This guy's the worst.

John C. Dvorak (25:16)

Oh, he's great. Is a stone cold liar who has zero credibility on this issue or on any other issue. And what we need, as I believe the governor has indicated, is a full and complete investigation. This rogue ICE agent who pulled the trigger should be criminally. This is interest. This is. This is the narrative.

Adam Curry (25:40)

They used rogue in the other clip. Somebody else used it. Rogue was the. That came out of Minnesota. The. I think even Walsh used it.

John C. Dvorak (25:48)

Rogue. Yes, rogue. You went rogue. This rogue ICE agent who pulled the trigger should be criminally investigated to the full extent of the law, including for demonstrating a depraved indifference to human life. All right, so it's all very sad. Nobody wins in this one. But in the meantime, there's so much going on in Minnesota. The Minnesota Department of Health and Human Services has done an audit. I think this came out on the 6th. And here's the lady who's running this audit. It's pretty interesting. Another sobering report by the Office of the Legislative Auditor. This one concerning the Behavioral Health Administration within the Department of Human Services which issues grants to providers treating mental health.

Adam Curry (26:43)

And drug and alcohol addiction.

John C. Dvorak (26:45)

Hundreds of millions of dollars each year.

Adam Curry (26:47)

The audit found them issuing grants to.

John C. Dvorak (26:49)

Applicants without a bidding process.

Various Interviewees/Clips (26:51)

So what we saw is that there was multiple entities that could have been eligible and they chose not to provide a justification for why they were picking those.

John C. Dvorak (27:02)

This report is quite stunning. One outrageous example, the auditors found a grantee that was paid $672,000 for one month of work without any info on what they do. And the audit says the grant manager who paid it then left DHS a couple days later and became a paid consultant for that company. That's what you do. To me, that's criminal. Auditor Judy Randall says she was most shocked that during the audit, multiple DHS managers backdated or created new documents to try to cover their tracks.

Various Interviewees/Clips (27:37)

Frankly, in the 27 plus years I've been with Ola, I have never seen this before. I will say we have had suspicions periodically but we have never been able to prove it to document it and we did in this case and it's very troubling.

John C. Dvorak (27:53)

Temporary DHS Commissioner Shereen Gandhi's response.

Various Interviewees/Clips (27:57)

I was shocked to hear this information in the exit conference and it is absolutely unacceptable that any staff would provide anything other than accurate representation of the work work done to an auditor.

John C. Dvorak (28:13)

Yeah. So the whole. And this is not just Minnesota. This has got to be everywhere. It's just.

Adam Curry (28:18)

Yeah, I have a clip defraudstrous clip covers this a little bit, adds a couple of items. But I like the way they use the intermixing of using the Department of Health and Human Services DHS with Department of Homeland Security. In the mind. In the mind is oh, DHS is corrupt.

John C. Dvorak (28:38)

Yeah. We have too many acronyms. We gotta.

Adam Curry (28:41)

Well, I mean we don't have enough apparently.

John C. Dvorak (28:44)

Listen to the fraudsters clip.

Various Interviewees/Clips (28:46)

House lawmakers on the Oversight Committee are exposing a multi billion dollar fraud scheme taking place in Minnesota. Around $9 billion meant to support Minnesota programs may have been stolen since 2018, a federal prosecutor reported last month. House Republicans on the committee this morning criticized Minnesota officials for not acting quickly enough to stop it.

Adam Curry (29:06)

Governor Tim Waltz, Attorney General Keith Ellison and Minnesota. Minnesota's Democrat leadership have either been asleep.

John C. Dvorak (29:12)

At the wheel or complicit in these crimes.

Various Interviewees/Clips (29:16)

The child care fraud scheme was first exposed more than a decade ago between 2011 and 2013. But one state lawmaker who appeared as a witness today said that those who tried to initially report the fraud faced government retaliation. They revealed that retaliation now includes threats of being fired with cause, which means you do not get unemployment insurance in the state of Minnesota being blacklisted from all state agencies. The Democrats witness a former DOJ official push back on the idea that fraudsters haven't faced repercussions, highlighting the consequences that some have faced so far.

John C. Dvorak (29:49)

The department has charged over a dozen people for stealing $14 million from a program meant for children with autism.

Various Interviewees/Clips (29:56)

The state's governor, Tim Waltz, has repeatedly defended his handling of the fraud crisis. But still, since the crisis has been exposed on the national scale, Waltz has since dropped his reelection campaign for a third term. Some Republicans aim to expose that some of the stolen money was used to fund Democrat politicians, even the state's attorney general.

Adam Curry (30:16)

Did money flow to Mr. Ellison's campaign a couple weeks later from some of the folks who were in that meeting?

John C. Dvorak (30:21)

Sure did.

Adam Curry (30:21)

How much? Do we know how much that was?

John C. Dvorak (30:23)

I do not have that number.

Adam Curry (30:24)

So it wasn't just, wasn't just overlooking the fraud they Were actively trying to make sure this program continued. And then they benefited from that politically with contributions to their campaign all in this same year, all in 2021.

John C. Dvorak (30:40)

You know, it's. Who's that again? Who does that voice?

Adam Curry (30:42)

It was Jordan.

John C. Dvorak (30:43)

Yeah. I mean, he's got to calm down. I like the facts of what he's saying. No one listens to that anymore.

Adam Curry (30:53)

It doesn't make any difference what they did. Comer was the earlier guy that said something. These guys are do nothing Republicans. They make a big F us. They get their clips on the air. Who gets arrested that.

John C. Dvorak (31:04)

But that's my point. It's old fashioned. Like if you really want to do something, speak like a normal human being. Stop with the print preeming and the, and the, and the clip, clip moments. So while you were doing this, I denounce you.

Adam Curry (31:23)

Yeah.

John C. Dvorak (31:23)

And then in a perfect like almost.

Adam Curry (31:27)

But even if they spoke like normal human beings, they still wouldn't do anything.

John C. Dvorak (31:30)

No. Well, that's true, yes. Then it's all about the midterms. And then in the perfect almost proof of the simulation, we get Dr. Oz, who is, you know, he's a good looking guy. He's not an ugly politician. He's now in the administration and he knows how to read a prompter. And like, wow. Everything has become show business.

Adam Curry (31:53)

At CMS and hhs. We're increasingly worried about the deep rot within Minnesota's Medicaid and social services systems which are supposed to protect the most vulnerable Americans. The more we uncover, the more it becomes clear it's much worse than we were led to believe by state government officials. We had previously learned that illegal immigrants were still getting care within allegedly state only Medicaid programs that were actually using federal taxpayer funds. And because of that, we already withheld $1.3 billion from California, Illinois and yes, Minnesota, which always seems to show up on the list of states with the worst fraud, waste and abuse. But this is only the tip of the iceberg for Minnesota. We have an unfortunate announcement for the Walsh administration. They have to admit they were warned. Last month we instructed the Walsh administration to produce a corrective action plan by the end of the year, which we received late New Year's Eve and found.

John C. Dvorak (32:56)

And he sounds a bit like Hagseth now. You know, they're all, they're all made for milieu. Milieu, yes.

Adam Curry (33:02)

Deeply insufficient. We don't want to hear, for example, that your state law doesn't allow you to protect federal taxpayers from Somali fraud.

John C. Dvorak (33:11)

And we want a sense of urgency. I keep Waiting for him to say, we'll be right back after this break.

Adam Curry (33:16)

Fix this. As well as clear milestones to hold.

John C. Dvorak (33:19)

Minnesota accountable on progress.

Adam Curry (33:22)

Enough is enough. I just notified Governor Walsh we will begin auditing Medicaid receipts and defer paying.

John C. Dvorak (33:28)

On claims based on fraud, waste and.

Adam Curry (33:31)

Abuse until we can verify what is legitimate. We're going to defer payments for the 14 programs that the state itself identified as rife with fraud. That figure could be in the hundreds of millions of dollars.

John C. Dvorak (33:45)

If the state cannot get a handle.

Adam Curry (33:47)

On this fraud as we find more, we intend to withhold more payments moving forward until the state cleans up its act.

John C. Dvorak (33:55)

Why don't they just withhold all funds? Can they do that? Can you say, we're just not going to give the. And by the way, why are my tax dollars going to Minnesota? Health care. I don't understand. That's, to me, is the scandal. Take care of your own people. We got our troubles here in Texas. And what an opportunity I've missed to open up my own facility for Tourette sufferers.

Adam Curry (34:22)

There you go.

John C. Dvorak (34:22)

They could have made a bundle.

Adam Curry (34:24)

Yeah.

John C. Dvorak (34:24)

Dumb. So the president is also very worried about the midterms. And I watched the whole speech he did for the GOP offsides.

Adam Curry (34:37)

The funny one that we had all the jokes in it.

John C. Dvorak (34:40)

Yeah. But the thing is, if you want to clip anything from it, he starts with the serious topic and then he just, he's going off tracking jokes.

Adam Curry (34:49)

You know, I want to say one thing about the Republicans in the midterms. They're, they're, they, they're not handling this. Right. They're handling as though they got it, that they're going to win the midterms.

John C. Dvorak (35:00)

Well, they're moronic if they believe that, but they're.

Adam Curry (35:03)

That. I don't know whether they believe it or not. I didn't say they believe. That's the way they're. They're act. They're. They're pretending, I think. Pretending because they have to be. They can't, they can't be this stupid. They're pretending they're going to wipe the floor with the Democrats in the midterms and they're going to win. And they're so, so they're exuding. The message that's going out is don't worry about voting. Yeah. We're going to win anyway instead of trying to. What they should be doing is scaring the Republicans and making them panic that they're going to lose. And the rest of the next two years, after 20, 27, 2028 are going to be just nothing but impeach, impeach, impeach, impeachment, you know, and impede and just screw up. The whole thing is over. I mean, basically, the Democrats, it's like a, you know, throwing a wrench in the works.

John C. Dvorak (35:53)

Well, this wasn't, I'm sorry.

Adam Curry (35:55)

But they keep acting as though they're gonna, they should be panicking.

John C. Dvorak (35:59)

Well, I think there's a, probably a large number of Republicans who have the let's just sit it out for a couple more years vibe. I truly believe that, like, this just all sucks. Trump is unpredictable. He's not playing the game, not playing it the way we're used to. And so let's just sit him out. Just sit him out. Doesn't matter, you know. Well, you know, okay, so maybe, yeah.

Adam Curry (36:23)

We got through four years of Biden. We didn't get through three years.

John C. Dvorak (36:25)

We didn't do any of that. It's not. Just wait it out. But in fact, the president said exactly what you just said.

Adam Curry (36:31)

You got to win the midterms. Because if we don't win the midterms, it's just going to be, I mean, they'll find a reason to impeach me. I'll get impeached. We don't impeach them. You know why? Because they're meaner than we are. We should have impeached Joe Biden for 100 different things. They are mean and smart, but fortunately for you, they have horrible policy. They can be smart as can be, but when they want. Open borders. When they want, as I said, men and women in sports, when they want. Transgender for everyone. Bring your kids in. We're going to change the sex of your child.

John C. Dvorak (37:15)

He was in rare form, but it was just too. Even the jokes. Shaggy dog for five, six minutes before he got to the punchline. But he said one thing, and I agree on him with him, particularly since right now they're in the House doing the important people's work on voting, on the healthcare extension subsidies. No idea how that's going to turn out. But. And he, oh, man, he does such a poor job of explaining things. His sound bites are the worst. Because I think I know what he's trying to say, but this is how it comes out.

Adam Curry (37:52)

I read a story about insurance companies making a fortune. A fortune. Their stocks were up 1,700%. Who invested recently in a stock that's up 17.

John C. Dvorak (38:04)

He, he's, he's. Instead of just saying Nancy Pelosi, which is what he's. What he means Here, he doesn't say that. Doesn't say who invested in these health cares. Oh, made all that money.

Adam Curry (38:15)

Who invested recently in his stock. That's up 17. And that's because the money that they're getting from Obamacare is massive. And the government generally, that means they're making a fortune. I came out with a statement. Let's let the money go not to the big fat cats and the insurance companies that made 1700% over the last short period of time. Let the money go directly to the people where they can buy their own health care.

John C. Dvorak (38:44)

And.

Adam Curry (38:49)

I don't think. I'm not sure that I've ever said anything that was more impactful. You know, I say a lot of things and have a lot of good ideas. And this was an idea that. I mean, the whole world went crazy. The whole country went crazy.

John C. Dvorak (39:02)

The world went crazy with envy. If you can somehow do that, Mr.

Adam Curry (39:07)

Speaker, Tom, all of you. Steve, if you can do that, you're going to have. This is going to be your issue.

John C. Dvorak (39:14)

The funny thing is that you don't have to wait for that to happen. I mean, it. It's been. I've just been studying this since. Since we two. Two and a half years ago. I got on the. Was it the ministry? Health. Healthcare ministries, whatever it's called. Tina's got crowd health. You know, these. These crowdfunding initiatives are doing so well. They're giving you the first three months free. Like, you don't have to. You have to pay for the first three months.

Adam Curry (39:45)

You can't do it in California.

John C. Dvorak (39:47)

That's right, you can't. There may be other states, but. Yeah, you can't do it in California because you get dinged.

Adam Curry (39:52)

Yeah, a thousand dollars, even.

John C. Dvorak (39:55)

That's worth it.

Adam Curry (39:56)

Well, if you calculate it, but nobody. They don't see it that way.

John C. Dvorak (40:00)

No, I understand.

Adam Curry (40:01)

And why. Why should they get dinged at all?

John C. Dvorak (40:03)

No, they shouldn't. But that's a state. That's a state law.

Adam Curry (40:06)

Who's putting up with that?

John C. Dvorak (40:08)

The Californians?

Adam Curry (40:09)

No. Well, the point is mail in ballots. It's not anybody in California that likes the idea.

John C. Dvorak (40:15)

I understand what you're saying.

Adam Curry (40:16)

It's the corrupt election system in California, Washington and Oregon. They're all mailed in states.

John C. Dvorak (40:21)

My point is, why doesn't the president bring a couple of these companies in to explain how it's already working and because really, we've saved. I don't know, what is it, 12, like $12,000 more, probably.

Adam Curry (40:37)

No, that would be great. Great. They don't do that I've always wondered, you know, if you remember. You probably don't. Ross Perot ran for president.

John C. Dvorak (40:48)

Now, what we got here, you see on my blackboard is here's the money coming in and here's the money.

Adam Curry (40:53)

Now would. He would have these little charts just like you tried to do there.

John C. Dvorak (40:59)

I did quite well. Yeah.

Adam Curry (41:01)

He's not bad. He's screechy. But he would show a little chart and he would. And it would explain not just one or two, but constantly show these little charts that were, were, were. What do you call them when you. We have a. You have an example that people can visualize a chart. Well, I know what. There's a word for a Venn diagram.

John C. Dvorak (41:23)

A.

Adam Curry (41:24)

No, I said it's illustration. Influential tool.

John C. Dvorak (41:30)

Meme. Cartoon. I'm running out of ideas.

Adam Curry (41:33)

So they stop. And so he would show these little charts and diagrams and explain very carefully what they meant. And then you could look at him and you'd understand.

John C. Dvorak (41:43)

Yeah.

Adam Curry (41:44)

And nobody has done that since. And it's just beyond me. Well, the reason why Trump should know that he's been. If he wants, he's going to believe that God saved his life. It was when he was looking at one of the few charts he's ever used. He turned his head to point out the chart showing the. The immigration chart that he still uses it to this day, showing the drop in immigration. He turns his head and he misses a bullet. Well, maybe that was, that was the sign to use these charts more.

John C. Dvorak (42:18)

It is quite baffling. Okay, so, sir, by his grace thing, that's.

Adam Curry (42:22)

Cause he's in on it.

John C. Dvorak (42:23)

I don't know. I think this is just.

Adam Curry (42:24)

He's just. He's in on it.

John C. Dvorak (42:26)

He's in on it. Oh, yeah, sure.

Adam Curry (42:27)

I don't think so. He doesn't care.

John C. Dvorak (42:29)

All right. No, but, but what. It. What boggles my mind is the fact that you can already opt out of the system today. And it, it works. It's fantastic. I'm just blown away. And now if I could get, get a thousand bucks or 500 or nothing. Give me nothing. I'm fine. It cost me 500 bucks max per thing that happens. And you help out other people and so you're still out a couple thousand dollars a year.

Adam Curry (42:58)

That's what insurance is supposed to do, by the way.

John C. Dvorak (43:00)

But it's the people's insurance, by the way.

Adam Curry (43:02)

But that's what insurance is supposed to be.

John C. Dvorak (43:04)

Well, it's not. And if you look at.

Adam Curry (43:06)

Well, there you go. Why is that?

John C. Dvorak (43:08)

Well, and so here's my next question.

Adam Curry (43:10)

Why do drug companies not try to cure people? They just want to keep them on drugs. The whole system's corrupt. Insurance is corrupt and so are drugs.

John C. Dvorak (43:17)

But instead of going and fighting ice, fight the system, people. Gosh. And doesn't Berkshire Hathaway isn't there? Maybe it's no longer the main. But isn't their main business reinsurance, so insuring the insurance companies?

Adam Curry (43:32)

I don't think it's. I think it's just pure insurance.

John C. Dvorak (43:35)

Okay, so one share of Berkshire Hathaway went from like 50 bucks to 750,000 bucks. That should give you a clue about how well the insurance business works. And by the way, I think a lot of these insurers are tied back to Lloyd's and Barclays. That's all theft from the North Sea Nexus as far as I'm concerned. And of course, these are the companies that kick back to election campaigns. I need to look up some of those clips where, where politicians are saying, well, there's just one thing you don't touch in. In Washington. You don't say anything about the insurance companies. And the same goes for you.

Adam Curry (44:17)

Get your funding cut off.

John C. Dvorak (44:19)

Yes. It's like pet insurance.

Adam Curry (44:21)

I think Obama was the number one in, in all of history. The number one recipient guy, President, recipient of insurance, getting the most insurance money.

John C. Dvorak (44:33)

Well, of course he did. Obamacare, which was literally putting money in their pockets market.

Adam Curry (44:38)

Yeah, yeah.

John C. Dvorak (44:40)

So I'm just saying it's like opt out of the system. People do it already. But yes, the president should totally just. And don't even claim your time. Just buy some time. Buy some time out of your own pocket and do a 20 minute podcast on TV and get some charts. You know, he could, I'm sure he could do it.

Various Interviewees/Clips (45:04)

He.

John C. Dvorak (45:04)

You're right, he did that. I love. This is a beautiful chart. This chart saved my life. Well, save. Save the midterms and do some charts.

Adam Curry (45:15)

No, they're going to have their asses handed to him because Schumer is outflanking. Even though Schumer's pulling stunt after stunt like this. The latest thing with this stupid candlelight vigil, which was pathetic, but they gave these speeches. I do have a clip from it, which is good. This is Jeffries talking about the cat now. Talk about a liar. Jeffries comes first. Schumer comes out and bitches and moans about Trump being a horrible guy. And he's instigated January 6th, which is a fraud if ever there was. And so now Jeffrey comes out and listened to his discussion about how fantastic the Capitol Police were.

John C. Dvorak (45:54)

For more than five hours, they were forced to engage in hand to hand combat, confronting thousands of of bloodthirsty rioters who were unleashed by Donald Trump. They were beaten with pipes, whipped, assaulted by bear spray, and pummeled by Confederate flagpoles. They were bloodied but unbound. We owe these heroes an eternal debt of gratitude and we'll never forget their service and their sacrifice. Had it not been for their bravery on that fateful day, I would have been. Many of us would not be alive right now. Wow. Wow. Yeah, of course. Well, and then in true Republican Party fashion, you know, I know what we'll do. We'll get him. We're going to change our website.

Various Interviewees/Clips (46:48)

Today is the five year anniversary of a deadly assault in the US Capitol by a mob that was trying to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election. And there's a fresh attempt by the Trump administration of trying to alter the facts of what happened on that day. A new page on the White House website mischaracterizes several of the events. The site accuses Capitol Police of escalating tensions and also accuses the Democrats of staging the real insurrection. There was no, no official event to memorialize this day in 2021 when a mob stormed down Pennsylvania Avenue and breached the Capitol as lawmakers fled. Instead, a march took place today made up of dozens of people who were charged in those riots, but later pardoned by President Trump.

John C. Dvorak (47:39)

Yeah, this was quite. They had time. These are all prepackaged, of course, because they were ready for it. So it didn't matter what happened in Minnesota and it doesn't matter. What we got in the calendar, Bob? Oh, we got the anniversary of January 6th. Oh, good. Let's do some packages. Yeah, I got a package. You know what, I'm gonna, I'm gonna get Pelosi on.

Various Interviewees/Clips (47:59)

Joining me now is House Speaker Emerita Nancy Pelosi, Democrat from California. It's great to see you. I know this day is so difficult for everybody who lives in this city.

John C. Dvorak (48:10)

It was so difficult for everybody who lives in this city.

Various Interviewees/Clips (48:14)

I thought of you a lot today. I knew I was gonna talk to you, but just given everything that happened, everything we all watched, and now we have the current House speaker refusing to put it.

Adam Curry (48:25)

That's Jen Psaki.

John C. Dvorak (48:27)

Oh, yeah, yeah. It's. She's going prime time. And of course, you know, the, the.

Adam Curry (48:33)

Nobody watches that show.

John C. Dvorak (48:34)

No, but the argument is over. Well, they were supposed to put up a plaque and they didn't put up the Plaque.

Adam Curry (48:40)

Now, this is a good bi. Okay. Yeah.

Various Interviewees/Clips (48:42)

This is very funny, refusing to put a commemorative plaque. We have Donald Trump, who's of course president, again, still lying about 2020, sitting with you five years later.

John C. Dvorak (48:54)

Well, today is an emotional day for all of us.

Adam Curry (48:57)

Five years since the. The President of the United States incited an insurrection on the Capitol, on the.

John C. Dvorak (49:04)

Congress, on the Constitution, and notice bringing just. They completely change history back to where they wanted. It was an insurrection on our ability.

Adam Curry (49:14)

To honor our oath, to certify the election of the president by way of.

John C. Dvorak (49:20)

Certifying the Electoral College.

Adam Curry (49:23)

What was sad is that this president refused to send the National Guard. He keeps saying, oh, I wanted it.

John C. Dvorak (49:30)

But they didn't want to make. It's amazing. It's just. It's just. It's just amazing. It's Mockingbird.

Adam Curry (49:35)

Have you seen the White House meme clip that they put out?

John C. Dvorak (49:38)

No.

Adam Curry (49:39)

Where they clipped that little part there, then they clipped. Apart from the movie her daughter made where Nancy says, yeah, I could have sent in the National Guard, but I never did. Yeah, Nancy, they didn't want it. His own secretary of defense testified under oath that that was not true. But he is not under oath.

John C. Dvorak (49:56)

So he just lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies. But what's important is our democracy.

Adam Curry (50:02)

What happened then was horrible.

John C. Dvorak (50:05)

Was horrible. Confederate fags under Lincoln's dome, the dome that Lincoln built. Hold on a second. The. For the dome that Lincoln built. I have a feeling that that lasted a couple of presidencies. He didn't build the dome. Okay.

Adam Curry (50:22)

No, he built it himself.

John C. Dvorak (50:24)

What?

Adam Curry (50:25)

Well, no, he. Lincoln himself, actually. From scratch. He poured them with cement. He did. He put it up. He engineered it. He's an engineer. He's a structural engineer. Everybody knows that.

John C. Dvorak (50:37)

What she doesn't mention.

Adam Curry (50:38)

And then the blacks did it, too. The black slaves.

John C. Dvorak (50:42)

And of course, funny enough, it was complet. Under Monroe, the predecessor to the donroe under Lincoln's dome, the dome that Lincoln.

Adam Curry (50:50)

Built while he was unifying. As she goes along.

John C. Dvorak (50:54)

Yeah, it's great.

Adam Curry (50:55)

Why don't they call it Lincoln's Dome?

John C. Dvorak (50:58)

Together, Our Union together.

Adam Curry (51:00)

And this president, for some reason, decided that he was going to incite an insurrection. Lie about it, because he couldn't face the fact that he was not elected. Elected President of the United States.

John C. Dvorak (51:15)

It's. I mean, it's. It's what you do, but it just show everybody every. He's lying. He's lying. He's lying. Let me lie. It's. It's great.

Adam Curry (51:24)

It's the But. And Saki just sits there and she's nodding her head.

John C. Dvorak (51:29)

She lives.

Adam Curry (51:30)

She's useless. She's the. I don't understand how she gets work.

John C. Dvorak (51:35)

She's. Well, what do you mean? Of course, if you do that, we could. You and I could have a show on Miz N Miz now. If we did that. Just do that. Oh, yes, it's so hard. I mean, now that we live in.

Adam Curry (51:48)

D.C. we really make more money.

John C. Dvorak (51:52)

Our rent will be higher, but we'd make a lot more money if we did that. But missing from all this, the same day, did you see the announcement from Levitt on Tulsi Gabbard's declassified? Declassified?

Adam Curry (52:06)

Yes, I did. I have a clip.

John C. Dvorak (52:08)

Well, unfortunately, it's long, but she's a good speaker and we can cut it off or stop wherever we want.

Various Interviewees/Clips (52:15)

Over the past few days, Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard has unveiled shocking new evidence that former President Barack Obama and top aides in the Obama administration conspired to subvert President Trump's 2016 election victory and undermine the democratic will of the American people. While publicly pretending to engage in a peaceful transfer of power. In private, former President Obama went to great and nefarious lengths to try to sow discord among the public and sabotage his successor, President Trump. The new evidence released by the Director of National Intelligence, who is here with me today, confirms that the Obama administration manufactured politicized intelligence, which was later used as the justification for baseless smears against President Trump in an effort to try to delegitimize his victory before he even took the oath of office. The truth is that President Trump never had anything to do with Russia. And the Russia collusion hoax was a massive fraud perpetuated on the American people from the very beginning. And the worst part of this is Obama knew that truth, and so did all of the other corrupt officials involved in this scam, including former CIA Director John Brennan, former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, former FBI Director James Comey, former deputy director Andrew McCabe, and many others.

John C. Dvorak (53:40)

So I expect these people to be indicted. Do you think that will happen?

Adam Curry (53:46)

That's a good one.

John C. Dvorak (53:47)

So they're just doing talk and they're not going to do anything?

Adam Curry (53:51)

Well, of course we knew all this already. In one way or another.

John C. Dvorak (53:54)

We knew it. Of course we knew this.

Adam Curry (53:56)

We knew it for a long time.

John C. Dvorak (53:58)

But conspiracy theorist.

Adam Curry (54:00)

Okay, but now that Gabber's brought out the, you know, she's declassified a bunch of stuff which indicates this to be true. It Doesn't. Nobody picked it up. You know, you're playing the one clip that. That says it all. And she's at the press conference. She's talking to the mainstream media right in front of her.

John C. Dvorak (54:17)

Oh, she.

Adam Curry (54:18)

Nobody she even blames, even wrote a story. Where's the story? Do you see a story on the front page, the New York Times about this?

John C. Dvorak (54:23)

No, no, I still see. I still see a car in the snow on the quad screen. No, of course not, because she also calls them out. She calls out the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal. She calls out reporters. And you can go look at the. Or listen to the clip in the show. By the way, I have a new feature to the show Notes. I now am posting all the sources to the clips in the show Notes, which is handy. So you get the clips so you can do your own podcast. I see what you're doing over there. And now you also get the sources. But of course, those are prone to change because you know how that works. It may just go away. But yes, it's. Is. Will the Department of. Are there not thousands of sealed indictments? I mean, will the Department of Justice not do something? I mean, it seems like you're going through to just have Caroline leave it, just say it, and then nothing happens. It would surprise me.

Adam Curry (55:24)

Wouldn't surprise me.

John C. Dvorak (55:27)

Bloomberg, by the way, had a story this morning that Tulsi Gabbard as the National Security Advisor was not included in the Venezuela opinion. And the joke, according to Bloomberg going around DC Is DNI stands for Do Not Invite. And I'm like, that's kind of interesting. Of course, you know, once a Democrat, you can never really be trusted, I guess.

Adam Curry (56:00)

You know, the less people that know about these things, the better the better. And because it's obvious that the Congress in particular, there are a bunch of. We have. That's the enemy within. Let me just play this clip. This is the. This is a very short discussion of the War Powers act, which was passed since 1973. It's been around for 50 years, and it's what the President uses to do this stuff. Even though everyone says, oh, you can't do this, you can't do that, yes, you can. And here's the short explanation of the whole thing.

John C. Dvorak (56:34)

The War Powers act states that notification should be made to Congress within 48 hours following the initiation of hostilities.

Various Interviewees/Clips (56:42)

In addition, the military must leave the country within 60 days unless Congress provides a declaration of war. According to House Speaker Mike Johnson, the military has already left Venezuela.

John C. Dvorak (56:53)

Yeah, there you go.

Adam Curry (56:55)

It's within the head. And they brief Congress after the fact. It has to be within 48 hours, not before. No, they don't need congressional approval. It's right in the War Powers act that Congress passed. Well, that's all posturing.

John C. Dvorak (57:10)

No, Trump used an antiquated document. A little used law.

Adam Curry (57:17)

It's used all the time. So it was used by Obama. It was used by. It was used by Clinton to bomb Bosnia. It was used by Clinton to. I know it was. Who is it? Obama to bomb Libya. Yeah, it was used over and over again. It was used to get Noriega. I mean, it's not new, but yeah. Oh, it's unconstitutional.

John C. Dvorak (57:40)

I didn't clip any, but I love seeing clips of Obama and Biden talking about Venezuela, you know. Well, they put sanction. Remember Guaido? Remember that gambit? They put in an Obama like guy and no one even looked at him. No one came to the rallies.

Adam Curry (57:57)

He went to the Venezuelan. Obama.

John C. Dvorak (58:00)

Yeah. Didn't he go to Congress? That would. Oh, yes, Guaido. Oh, yes, Guido. He's the man. He's going to do it.

Adam Curry (58:07)

Whatever happened to him?

John C. Dvorak (58:08)

His CIA op they just threw, by the way, just on CIA ops for a second, you know, jd. Fat jd. Now I have him in my, in my algo. Thanks.

Adam Curry (58:20)

Oh, you're getting the fat JD.

John C. Dvorak (58:21)

I'm getting the fat JDs.

Adam Curry (58:22)

I'm even getting a pretty good dancer.

John C. Dvorak (58:24)

I'm getting fat JDs in bikinis. It's very disturbing. My. My algos have crossed. When he was an anti Trump bumper, do you know who he endorsed for president?

Adam Curry (58:39)

It was either Rand Paul or.

John C. Dvorak (58:41)

No, no.

Adam Curry (58:44)

Ted Cruz.

John C. Dvorak (58:45)

Nope. No, it was that dude from Utah, the CIA guy.

Adam Curry (58:53)

Really?

John C. Dvorak (58:53)

Yes. He endorsed him. That makes me question Vance.

Adam Curry (59:01)

Well, yeah, well, a lot of people question Vance well, because he's fat. I think he's also. He was the, he was on Jesse Waters show last night.

John C. Dvorak (59:10)

Spencer Cox. That's the games guy. Yeah, Spencer Cox, I think.

Adam Curry (59:14)

And he, he's a smooth talker. I have to say. I give him credit for that. But he's, you know, some, he's not a good tweeter. He. He tweeted some stuff.

John C. Dvorak (59:23)

He's not a good tweeter. You can't be president.

Adam Curry (59:28)

No, he, he doesn't quite know what he's doing. He should shut up about the, about the Minnesota Shooting for Stars.

John C. Dvorak (59:35)

Well, he's, that's, he's been given that portfolio. He was on all the quad screens this morning. He did. I, I didn't clip it because it was too close to the show. But he's the he's that's in his portfolio. He doesn't get Venezuela, he doesn't get Greenland, he gets Minnesota. So I think he's kind of being sidelined a little bit. Feels like. Like.

Adam Curry (59:56)

I don't think he's getting sideline. He's getting more. More airtime than before. He's just being. They just gave him. You're right.

John C. Dvorak (60:02)

For minor stuff. For my. Yeah, it's like, who wants that aside? But go stand with Kristi Noem. She's wearing a hat.

Adam Curry (60:10)

I can't see her eyes.

John C. Dvorak (60:11)

I don't know. I don't know.

Adam Curry (60:13)

She's on a horse.

John C. Dvorak (60:14)

So I just love the fallout from Venezuela. And now Greenland. And I gotta play this clip because I was watching a lot of the financial stuff. This is squawk box Europe, which of course is rife with City of London operatives. Listen to this Brit freak out. What world do we live in where America is potentially threatening or refusing to rule out military action on Denmark, an ally on an area where as many troops as they want want there anyway. They could have as many deals to extract resources they want anyway, almost certainly, but they want to have military action. But that is not even the most gobsmacking of these headlines. The fact that all pretense that this extraction of Maduro was about narco terrorism. By the way he's read in, he knows it was an extraction. He doesn't call it a capture, doesn't call it a kidnapping. He calls it a caption, an extraction. So this guy is clearly read in the all pretense that this extraction of Maduro was about narco terrorism or bringing a drugs kingpin to justice is just completely out the window. All pretense that there is a process which the US administration wants to bring democracy to Venezuela is out the window. Whoever said we want to bring.

Adam Curry (61:42)

Nobody has said that.

John C. Dvorak (61:44)

That's old thinking, bro. Other to just say Venezuela has hundreds of billions of dollars of liabilities on a global basis, some of them to US oil companies, to China. But to say we're just going to have now this 50 million barrels of oil, we're going to take them, we're going to take 3 billion, we're just going to take them and we'll. We'll work out the process, it'll be fine for the Venezuelan people, it's just gobsmack, this is just a shock. The paragon of the liberal democratic order for the last 80 years is just now saying, yeah, we'll have that oil and for what justification? Yeah, exactly. The rules based order is over. There's a new cowboy in town and you can see he's freaking out. This guy, by the way, the oil baron. They're going to the White House for the big meeting. There's a big meeting with all of the oil. I will get a report, a real report. And the. He's actually really been educating me a lot on the US we can now basically make the strike price for oil. We could say, okay, it's 45 bucks if we wanted to and we could sell it whatever price we want. There's all kinds of very interesting angles to this taking of the oil. And he gave me a book to read which I've been devouring. It's called the World for Sale. Money, Power and the traders who barter the earth's resources. And it's the commodity traders. And you never hear about these Glen, well, you've heard probably about Glencore, Gunvor, Trafigura, Vital. These aren't really names that you hear all the time. But these are the guys who literally ship the oil. They'll buy the oil. They get it from one country, they put it on. There's a lot of these shadow ships, they ship it across the country. They might trade it for Grant. You know, it's not even money. Sometimes they trade it for either a different kind of oil or a different commodity. There's also all kinds of metals in the same ship. It's amazing how this really all works.

Adam Curry (63:57)

Which you just never business.

John C. Dvorak (64:00)

Well, one of the top people in this business is a guy named Louis Dreyfus. Where have I heard that name before for?

Adam Curry (64:09)

Yeah, good name.

John C. Dvorak (64:10)

Yeah. Julia, Louis Dreyfus is the heir to that fortune.

Adam Curry (64:14)

Yeah.

John C. Dvorak (64:14)

Then he's a commodities democrat. Well, I don't know if Louis is. If he. I don't know if Louis still alive. But yeah, she's. She's more than a democrat. She's tarred. Another thing that that came up in conversation is, you know, Venezuela has anti aircraft batteries that are supplied by Russia. You got to wonder, did they malfunction? Did they just not work or was.

Adam Curry (64:46)

Russia in on the deal?

John C. Dvorak (64:48)

I think so. I think Russia was in on the deal. I think China probably knew about it. Maybe not the timing because they had their boys there doing a little bit of huge.

Adam Curry (64:59)

China has loaned Venezuela 90 billion billion so far. And it could be more than that. And they're going to be on the hook for that.

John C. Dvorak (65:09)

Yes, but exactly what I said. It's like, hey, they've got to do something for the Venezuelan people soon. And I think that's this, you know, the 30 or it's not clear how much is 30 or 50 million barrels. That's $2 billion. Okay. So that's going to keep the food in the supermarkets for a little bit longer because you didn't just change their system. System. But I, I think it's, I think it's fascinating. This, this isn't just one thing that changed here. This is a lot of things that changed. Here's. So everyone's. We'll kind of go from Venezuela to.

Adam Curry (65:49)

Well, let's don't leave Venezuela.

John C. Dvorak (65:50)

You want to do Venezuela? Okay, yeah, let's do Venezuela.

Adam Curry (65:55)

What do I have on my list here?

John C. Dvorak (65:56)

I see you have three steps.

Adam Curry (66:00)

Oh yeah. This is kind of interesting because this just came out. I think this was, this is Rubio who's would be a great dictator.

John C. Dvorak (66:12)

He's funny, he says funny things. He has little.

Adam Curry (66:15)

Oh, and by the way, somebody in the, one of the people from the. I think the, that works in the White House says that of all the people that are on the, in the White House House, Rubio is the funniest.

John C. Dvorak (66:29)

Well you hear him say stuff.

Adam Curry (66:31)

He's, he's funnier than Trump.

John C. Dvorak (66:33)

They say he has quips, he has little snide quips that just slash away and I should get, I should get a super cut together.

Adam Curry (66:41)

We had to find something that has. Yeah, I, well before we played this.

John C. Dvorak (66:47)

Remember he's an entertainer after all, so.

Adam Curry (66:49)

Well, he was and he's the one who came up with the small hands joke.

John C. Dvorak (66:52)

Yes, it was good.

Adam Curry (66:53)

He was. When he started doing kind of a stand up bit when he was running for, for President 2016, 2015, he went into some stand up material that was top notch.

John C. Dvorak (67:04)

I remember. Do we have the clip that clip by the way, do we have.

Adam Curry (67:07)

I don't know if we do any how you'd find it but he did top notch material and then he was condemned by the non never Trumper Republicans for being too, too glib and he just shut it down. He shut it down. But obviously he had the chops.

John C. Dvorak (67:23)

Yes.

Adam Curry (67:23)

So he's probably is the funniest guy.

John C. Dvorak (67:25)

Let me see hands. Do you have the little hands?

Adam Curry (67:28)

Little hands?

John C. Dvorak (67:29)

No, no, I don't have any of that. I don't know.

Adam Curry (67:31)

Well here's. Let's start with the Maduro hate. This is a super cut from the various talk shows on msnb, Miz now and CNN and all the rest of these guys going off on Trump, this.

Various Interviewees/Clips (67:44)

Was an illegal, unconstitutional regime change effort. This is about taking over and running another country.

John C. Dvorak (67:53)

This is illegal.

Adam Curry (67:54)

It's unjustified.

John C. Dvorak (67:55)

Clearly. This is wildly illegal. As a president who has been operating illegally since he was sworn into office, stealing from the American people, this is.

Adam Curry (68:04)

The worst form of gunboat diplomacy that.

John C. Dvorak (68:07)

Proceeds to create a lot of problems.

Adam Curry (68:09)

For the United States.

John C. Dvorak (68:10)

The reality is that, you know, to fund these operations, to fund nation building, they need the approval of Congress. Right.

Various Interviewees/Clips (68:17)

And so they're going to have to.

John C. Dvorak (68:18)

Come to us when it comes to funding all of these things or do more illegal things and move money around illegally like they have in the past.

Various Interviewees/Clips (68:24)

They care about the president running this country, not trying to have some dominance in the hemisphere.

John C. Dvorak (68:33)

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Adam Curry (68:36)

So this is that I thought was interesting because one of the things they've kept, they, that keeps coming up in the conversations, oh, Trump's got no plans. He doesn't know what he's doing. He did this and he grabbed the guy and now they don't know what to do.

John C. Dvorak (68:48)

Yeah, right, right.

Adam Curry (68:49)

So here is the, this is the Venezuela three steps.

John C. Dvorak (68:54)

And congressional Republicans agreed with the Trump administration that the removal of Maduro was.

Adam Curry (68:59)

Not about regime change.

John C. Dvorak (69:01)

Step one is destabilization of the country. We don't want it descending into chaos. The second phase will be a phase that we call recovery, and that is ensuring that American, Western and other companies have access to the Venezuelan market. A way that's fair. The opposition forces can be ambushed and released and from prisons or brought back to the country and begin to rebuild civil society. And then the third phase, of course, will be one of transition. It is not a regime change. I want to emphasize that it is a change of the actions of the regime. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a lot more to it. Let me see. I have a BBC. Let me see. Well, no, I have three clips, all British related, of course. Here's Reuters. This is about the, the Ghost ships, the Ghost fleet, which is a lot of these guys that are in this book I'm reading.

Various Interviewees/Clips (69:53)

The US has seized two Venezuelan linked oil tankers in the Atlantic. Notably, one of the tankers bearing a Russian flag was being shadowed by a Russian submarine. American forces had been pursuing the Marinera for more than two weeks. Weeks. The ship was reportedly empty, but US Officials are saying it's been used to move Venezuelan crude. This comes just days after US forces captured Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro. And as Trump announced a deal to bring up to 50 million barrels of the crude into the U.S. just a thought.

John C. Dvorak (70:31)

Let's say because Russia has been selling their, their crude cheap, cheap to China. Whoever needs, needs it. Just undercutting the price.

Adam Curry (70:40)

India.

John C. Dvorak (70:41)

And India. So what if Trump says, you know, I'm going to peg this, I'm going to sell this at 35. Russia, because oil is, you know, it's. What's the term? You know, it's the same everywhere. It's not the same oil, but you know, the price are the price. So then Russia will have to lower their price. It'll put pressure on them. It may be this would be a good tactic to use like, hey, come on, Vladimir, let's just figure this thing out, do a demilitarized zone, let's just that stuff. And then we'll screw Europe together. Because Europe, the only way they can survive is with Russian oil. That's it. I mean, yeah, they can use our lng, but Europe is dead without Russian energy. I just don't see where else is going to come from.

Adam Curry (71:27)

Yeah, they got nothing.

John C. Dvorak (71:28)

I think, I think that's, that could be part of the ploy. It's like, yeah, I'm going to sell this really cheap.

Adam Curry (71:34)

Something's up.

John C. Dvorak (71:35)

Yes.

Various Interviewees/Clips (71:36)

Here's national security reporter Idris El Ali.

John C. Dvorak (71:40)

Anytime you have a superpower taking over something that is belongs to another superpower, in this case United States and Russia.

Adam Curry (71:48)

It does risk sort of tensions, fairing. It does risk, you know, a diplomatic demarche. The Russian transportation Ministry put out a.

John C. Dvorak (71:56)

Statement saying, this is unacceptable. We request and really demand, you know, our citizens from the ship to be returned to us. But beyond that, I think we're trying to figure out what happens next.

Adam Curry (72:08)

Right. Do the Russians say, okay, okay, this.

John C. Dvorak (72:10)

Was a vessel that was under our flag, but it really wasn't something that.

Adam Curry (72:14)

Was, that belonged to us previously.

John C. Dvorak (72:16)

So we're going to let this go or do they have some sort of response where they go after some vessels that is important to the United States.

Adam Curry (72:22)

The U.S. coast Guard is in possession of the vessel.

John C. Dvorak (72:24)

It does appear to be heading in the direction of British waters. But we don't know what the final destination is going to be. Okay, So I don't know what that means. Here's the bb.

Adam Curry (72:32)

It was a tug. And the Russians would, you know, the Russians, I think are a little more concerned about the 300 billion stolen from them in hard cash. You think by the eu as opposed to some old beat up. I've seen pictures of this thing. This thing is barely. It's not. If it makes it without sinking, I'd.

John C. Dvorak (72:51)

Be shocked and just because you paint a Russian flag on it doesn't mean it belongs to Russia. You know, you fly, you sail under a flag. That's registration. Doesn't mean that Russia owns it. Here's, here's the BBC version.

Various Interviewees/Clips (73:04)

The United States says it seized two oil tankers with connections to Venezuela. Venezuela. One that the U.S. had been pursuing for weeks since intercepting it off the Venezuelan coast was boarded in the North Atlantic between Iceland and Britain. During the chase, the ship, which is reported to be empty of cargo, changed its name and adopted a Russian flag. Before the tanker was seized, Russian naval support, including a submarine, had been on its way to escort it. The second vessel, which was carrying oil and sailing under a Cameroonian flag flag was seized in the Caribbean. It's now being escorted to a US Port. A former Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Andrei Fedorov told the BBC Moscow would take the US Action very seriously.

Adam Curry (73:51)

For Russia it's a very important thing.

John C. Dvorak (73:54)

Because if there will be attack from.

Adam Curry (73:57)

Us, it will be considered as attack.

John C. Dvorak (73:59)

On Russia and it could lead to.

Adam Curry (74:02)

Very critical or maybe even crisis situation.

John C. Dvorak (74:05)

In relations between Russia and. Yeah, dream on, Brit. No, they're all playing a part. I think this is a game much bigger than they understand. It's much bigger.

Adam Curry (74:21)

Well, let's throw a wrench in the works. I have this not reported clipped from NTD that I don't understand how this fits into the scheme of things. But nobody's talking much about. This is my WTF clip for the day. WTF Oil deal.

Various Interviewees/Clips (74:37)

President Trump announcing a historic oil deal with Venezuela. Under its terms, Venezuela will purchase only American products with the money made from the US Selling Venezuela's sanctioned oil. This coming as the US Apprehends two more sanctioned oil tankers in the Atlantic entities. Washington correspondent brings us more from the.

John C. Dvorak (74:55)

I haven't heard this story at all. What a great, what a great idea. It's like we're not actually going to give you the money, we're just going to send you some goods in return. This is a great idea.

Various Interviewees/Clips (75:06)

House. All eyes are still on Venezuela as the the White House today confirms the seizure of two more sanctioned oil tankers, one of them, the Sofia. This is a stateless sanctioned dark fleet motor tanker. This vessel was operating in international waters and conducting illicit activities in the Caribbean Sea. And the other, Bella one the British military says was part of a Russian Iranian axis of sanctions evasion. The vessel this morning was seized in the North Atlantic. This was a Venezuelan Shadow fleet vessel that has transported sanctioned oil. The vessel had a judicial seizure order in the crew. So that means the crew is now subject to prosecution for any applicable violation of federal law. This comes as President Trump announced Tuesday night that the interim authorities in Venezuela will be turning over 30 to 50 million barrels of sanctioned oil to the United States, where it will be sold at market price. The White House saying the Trump administration, led by Secretary of State Marco Rubio, is in close correspondence with interim authorities in Venezuela. The interim authorities have agreed to release that oil to the United States, so it will be arriving here at home very soon. The United States government has already begun marketing Venezuelan crude oil. Levitt says that the US Is selectively rolling back sanctions to enable the transport and sale of Venezuelan crude oil to global markets.

John C. Dvorak (76:22)

They are not generating any revenue from their oil right now. They can't move it unless we allow it to move because we have sanctions, because we're enforcing those sanctions. This is tremendous leverage. We are exercising it in a positive way. And we're, we're going to refine it, though, first, I presume. I mean, who else? Does anyone else really need?

Adam Curry (76:40)

Well, yeah, Venezuela has some refining capabilities.

John C. Dvorak (76:43)

We have it. We have the refineries. I mean, yeah, Louisiana is great, right.

Adam Curry (76:48)

Down in that area.

John C. Dvorak (76:50)

Good for us. Yeah, Go Texas.

Adam Curry (76:52)

Yeah. It keeps these guys busy. Here's part two.

Various Interviewees/Clips (76:54)

Proceeds from Venezuelan crude oil sales will first settle in US Controlled accounts, and then those funds will be dispersed for the benefit of the American people and the Venezuelan people.

John C. Dvorak (77:05)

We're going to market that crude.

Adam Curry (77:07)

We're going to allow that, that crude to be sold so that revenue can.

John C. Dvorak (77:10)

Be generated, but then we're going to control the flow of that revenue to.

Adam Curry (77:14)

Make sure it's going for productive reasons.

Various Interviewees/Clips (77:16)

In Venezuela, meanwhile, as the effects of former Venezuelan dictator Nicolas Maduro's capture are felt around the world, President Trump warning other Western countries that his administration won't allow America's neighbors to be used as proxies for US Adversaries.

John C. Dvorak (77:30)

We need Greenland for the national security.

Adam Curry (77:33)

Security situation. It's so strategic. Greenland is covered with Russian and Chinese ships all over the place.

John C. Dvorak (77:42)

We need Greenland.

Adam Curry (77:43)

From the standpoint of national security, President.

Various Interviewees/Clips (77:46)

Trump says Russia and China have, quote, zero fear of NATO without the US and that the only nation China and Russia fear and respect is the America that he's rebuilding. The White House confirms the US Is talking about what a potential purchase of Greenland would look like. More control over the Arctic region and ensuring that China and Russia and our adversaries cannot continue their aggression in this very important and strategic region. Levitt says all options are on the table with the first option, always diplomacy. Secretary of State Marco Rubio says he plans to meet his Danish counterparts next week to talk about the US Interest in Greenland. Reporting from the White House, Mario to NTD News.

John C. Dvorak (78:25)

I think that there's disinformation that the president is spreading with this, because it's not. Every single report mentions the national security part of it, but then always, oh, minerals. They got oil, they got minerals, there's gold in them hills. I tell you, it's, oh, great stuff. No one's going to drill for minerals in Iceland. You're not going to drill for oil in Iceland.

Adam Curry (78:49)

No, they're not.

John C. Dvorak (78:50)

It's cold, there's ice.

Adam Curry (78:52)

Oil's frozen.

John C. Dvorak (78:53)

Greenland.

Adam Curry (78:54)

I'm sorry, you can't pump out something that's frozen.

John C. Dvorak (78:56)

Greenland. I'm sorry, Iceland, Ben. Greenland said Iceland. Yeah, but no one's, no one's going to do that. But that's what they keep saying, as you've pointed out many times. Rare earth minerals, it's not the, you can get them anywhere, almost anywhere. It's the processing.

Adam Curry (79:12)

That's the, yeah, the processing is the problem.

John C. Dvorak (79:14)

That's the key. So, but that every report ends with it or has it as a feature. You listen. CNBC again, we need Greenland. President Donald Trump is fixated on making Greenland. Greenland are part of the United States. And there are three key reasons why. Trump says his interest in the huge and sparsely populated Danish territory is essential for national security. The White House has even raised the prospect of military action. But there are some other reasons why Greenland finds itself in the US Sites. First, location, location, location. Greenland sits between Russia and the US Separating the Arctic Ocean ocean and the North Atlantic Ocean. Second, shipping routes. The largely frozen island is close to new shipping routes as the climate crisis melts Arctic ice, creating opportunities to upend global trade. And third, despite Trump's recent dismissal of this being a primary driver, minerals. Greenland is widely known for its wide range of raw materials, which play an integral role in things like EVs, smartphones, and loads of other tech products. Despite Trump's posturing, European leaders have been unequivocal in their support of both Denmark and Greenland. So minerals. Oh, yeah, minerals. Minerals. It's about one thing and one thing only. The, it's called the Giuk Gap, the Greenland, Iceland, UK gap, which falls under surveillance by NATO currently because of the NATO connection with Denmark and Greenland being a of part, part of that. So we don't, we don't trust NATO anymore. NATO is, this is falling apart now. I don't Think Trump wants to blow NATO up because he still wants to sell a lot of gear to him. A lot, a lot, a lot of gear. But he does want to police that GI UK gap. And the only way you can do it. Well, there's a couple of ways you can, can do it, but you, you need to, you know, either own Greenland, so you have your 200 mile economic zone which would cover it, and then you can actually patrol it. Now, there's other cases where you can do sonar monitoring, but that's not really what we want. We want to do the same thing China's doing in the, China, in the China Sea and around the disputed islands. We want to be in control there so that you can't have the Brits, they literally have Russian submarines showing up off their shore. How do you think they got there? Duh, through the gap. And then why are we building 10 icebreakers or 6 icebreakers in Pennsylvania that we bought all the know how and everything from, from Finland? Because we're gonna, we're gonna crush through all that ice. We're gonna make this the most fantastic shipping route ever. And we're gonna control, control it. And that's. If you look at the globe, if you believe in the globe, that's part of our, of our hemisphere. It's very simple to me, but everybody's like, oh, it's about the minerals, about the minerals. And boy, the, the Brits and the whole system, they're all, they're afraid of this. They do not like it. Witness Canada's solidarity. Prime Minister Mark Carney in Paris at a summit focused squarely on Ukraine.

Adam Curry (82:32)

Our main objective is to finalize the.

John C. Dvorak (82:35)

Security guarantees which create the possibility of a just and lasting peace. Did you see the, the signing they did of the security agreement?

Adam Curry (82:46)

I did not.

John C. Dvorak (82:47)

Oh, so. And Witkoff and Kushner are there, and that's. Oh, we've signed a. Eu, NATO, blah, blah. We've signed a security agreement with Ukraine. Ukraine. And if you look at the fine print, all we're going to do is monitor intelligence. We're not providing anything. But they, they act like, oh, yes, it's a lasting peace and the US Is a part of it. We're not. The agreement really states. We're just monitoring a little bit. You know, we'll, we'll let you know if we see anything suspicious. We're not providing.

Adam Curry (83:20)

Keep an eye on it.

John C. Dvorak (83:21)

That's exactly. We'll keep an eye on it. Just say I had the. Yes, here it is. It's the coalition of the willing Security guarantee. I think I have the exact wording that will do it. These elements will be European led with the involvement also of non European members of the coalition and the proposed support of the US that's in the agreement. Well, that's nothing. We're not doing anything. Anything. Crucially, the monitoring and verification of future ceasefire would be led by the US we're going to monitor and verify. We're not doing anything. This is, this. They're delusional. Along with Carney, European leaders and US Representatives, Donald Trump's peace envoy Steve Witkoff and the US President's son in law, Jared Kushner. But it was Trump himself who cast a long shadow over this meeting with his increasingly bellicose threats against a NATO ally. We need Greenland from the standpoint, everybody likes that, Nat Pop.

Adam Curry (84:26)

We need Greenland of national security and Denmark is not going to be able to do it, I can tell you.

John C. Dvorak (84:33)

After sending U.S. troops into Venezuela to capture the country's President, Trump has once again turned his attention to Greenland and his desire to take over the territory from Denmark. In a statement today, the White House called acquiring Greenland an important foreign policy goal and pointedly refused to rule out military. Military action that after Trump's hard line policy chief Stephen Miller this week dodged a question on the US potentially taking the island by force. The United States should have Greenland as part of the United States. There's no need to even think or talk about this in the context of a military operation. Nobody's going to fight the United States militarily over the future of Greenland. So the question just doesn't make any sense. Sense. So we could do it under the Compact of Freedom association, which you would do with Paulau, Palau and Micronesia, which in a deal would give us full authority. And so we don't own Greenland. We just say, okay, we have a compact of free association. We'll pay the 600, 700 million a year that Denmark is currently on the hook for and then we get strategic denial rights, the legal power to deny military access to third parties. And I think this is the, the setup. Russia, UK take care of that region, we'll take care of our hemisphere. China, you do your thing. They may actually invade Taiwan, but it's not going to cut us off from chips. They'd be crazy to do that. Why would China take over Taiwan and not sell us chips?

Adam Curry (86:07)

It's none of this. That's not going to happen. And if you read the rush, I decided to, I was looking. I've got some material on a ride. Iran, which is either falling apart or not.

John C. Dvorak (86:17)

Yeah, well I want to stay with Greenland. Before you go to Iran.

Adam Curry (86:21)

Yeah, no, but I'm just saying I was looking at the Russian material to see what was going on. If they have anything. There's nothing but I did spot this article in I think it was Sputnik and maybe another one in RT saying US is going to buy Greenland and the Russians don't even think there's going to be military action. They're already convinced that, that the, the deal is in play to buy. You know this is a matter of what are you going to pay.

John C. Dvorak (86:50)

I think so too. But it's not going to be an invade. They could also do a lease, you know you can do under the 1951 defense of Greenland.

Adam Curry (87:00)

If I was agreement Mark. Yeah I maybe the lease would be a good idea for a while if you can get enough money out of it. But 99 years to me maybe, but it's always 99 year lease might work. I think think that just a straight up. If you can get a lot of money, a big. I mean it's got to be good. I mean Denmark has no interest in Greenland but they could use a hundred.

John C. Dvorak (87:25)

Billion dollars or 2 billion or a hundred billion is a lot. That's a lot of money. But under that 1951 agreement between the United States and Denmark we have a free hand. We can pretty much do anything we want with Greenland. But that's not the point. It's about the water. We want to have the right to patrol and basically own that water. That as the ice melts and as our big beautiful ships that we bought from Finland start to break up the ice it's going to be a dynamite place. And it also I think kind of hurts China's belt and road or at least we can start charging for passage. There's all kinds of benefits to it. The rules based order has changed and the only people who haven't realized it yet or aren't copying to it is the EU and they're just beside themselves. Where's Ursula in all this? Where's Queen Ursula? She hasn't been yelling about anything recently. I'm missing that. Here's part two of this. Canada Solidarity with Greenland. Denmark's Prime Minister Mette Fredriksen says the question needs to be taken at face value. I believe the American President should be taken seriously when he says he wants Greenland. She says but I also want to make clear that if the United States chooses to attack another NATO country then everything stops, including NATO. Mark Carney met the Danish PM at the Paris summit and announced Foreign Affairs Minister Anita Anand and Governor General Mary Simon would visit Greenland next month to open a new Canadian consulate. Carney today trying to strike a diplomatic tone.

Adam Curry (89:11)

We stand with Denmark, we stand with Greenland. Our closest partnership is with the United States and we'll work with everybody to.

John C. Dvorak (89:19)

Make sure that though we stand with Denmark. The leaders of six European NATO countries, the uk, France, Germany, Italy, Poland and Spain joined Denmark in a joint declaration calling the US an essential partner, but underlining Greenland belongs to its people. That Denmark and Greenland alone will decide their future. The question whether a newly emboldened US President shares that view. So I think it's just trolling. It's just trolling. He's going to make a deal and I think everyone be like, oh, that's a pretty good deal.

Adam Curry (89:56)

Yeah, it'll be a good deal.

John C. Dvorak (89:57)

It's going to be a great deal. And you know, then things slowly unfold. I see that the music is going to stop and we're going to have the EU with new. Nothing. Nothing.

Adam Curry (90:15)

So what do you know about the Berlin blackout?

John C. Dvorak (90:17)

I don't have any clips.

Adam Curry (90:19)

Yeah, I couldn't get anything that was useful.

John C. Dvorak (90:21)

No, I mean Euro news has these African guys doing voiceover. You can't even understand them. And what, did they run out of Europeans to do the Euro news?

Adam Curry (90:30)

I guess so.

John C. Dvorak (90:32)

So they've targeted power states stations. I don't know if it's a, if it's a transformer or a relay or if it's the actual power station. But the word is that they're using some kind of EMP or, you know, they're frying the electronics. So they're not planting bombs, they're frying stuff. And it's taking six, seven days to get these things back online. I have a feeling we got some people out there who might be able to help us understand what's going on.

Adam Curry (91:03)

Yeah, maybe.

John C. Dvorak (91:04)

And it's all being blamed on Antifa, which is at this point isn't Antifa just basically radical Muslims because they got enough of those in Europe? It may be code.

Adam Curry (91:17)

It's probably code.

John C. Dvorak (91:19)

I think so it's code, but we.

Adam Curry (91:22)

Don'T know what the code is.

John C. Dvorak (91:25)

Not yet. Not yet.

Adam Curry (91:27)

So I've been following this Iranian thing. There's a bunch of live streamers and.

John C. Dvorak (91:33)

A bunch of groovy.

Adam Curry (91:34)

And this one guy, two CTO TV and his crew of TV supposed TV people has been pushing the. The fact that I think one cities or one at least one, the second biggest city in Iran Mossad or Masoud, whatever you pronounce it, has fallen and there's other towns fallen. They're making it sound as if there is a all hell's breaking loose. And so this is either but nobody's covering it in the West. And so I looked up, I looked at all the media reports because this guy says the Russians. That's why I was looking at Russian stuff. The Russians have said that it's going to be a matter of days before the regime falls. Meanwhile, American mainstream media is not. No mainstream media is covering. Except the New York Times did have an article yesterday that discussed and it looked like hell was breaking loose. And it was, but it was buried. It was buried for some reason. So this can't be an op our boys doing anything because usually we plant stuff in the media if we're do if it's. If it's our boys doing the intel and causing trouble. So this is somewhat mysterious but I want to play these. I only have two clips because otherwise doesn't make a lot of sense. Nobody even knows this is going on. But this is from this guy. This from yesterday last night actually. This is the Iran falling from Tusi tv.

John C. Dvorak (93:00)

Hello ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Tusi tv. Oh yeah, I know this guy. He's good. Woo. Thank God for YouTube, your global news channel Amaya Tusi and the revolution in Iran is getting closer and closer to completion. The Iranian people are now celebrating in multiple cities as we now have reports from two or three new cities who have now fallen into the hands of the anti Islamic occupation Iranians. That includes of course the second largest city, Mashhad. But most of Karaj is now also under the control of the people as their security forces have now retreated from those areas. The members of the military police, Ambassador Basij have defected to the revolution from the regime and government buildings have been taken over in multiple cities and regions. There is a lot happening. We're going to show you all the videos, we're going to get your reaction as usual and also we are getting literally minutes before we came live Russian media, the Russian what is going on here? The Russian media are now reporting the the fall of the regime in Iran is imminent. And okay, so we also got a big shout out to Cheyenne X just telling me another government building headquarters in the city of this is actually in the northeast that has now fallen. Okay, we're just going to go to the videos that we are receiving as we speak and we'll talk about what's going on with the Russian media as well. A lot to talk about. First things first. Earlier today in Char Mahal Bakhtiori province, we had armed individuals fighting back, defending themselves against the Islamic occupation forces in the eastern part of. Of Iran. He's a little bit of a yak yaker. He could get to the point a little faster.

Adam Curry (94:59)

Yeah, that's why I didn't like clipping him. But at least there was something there.

John C. Dvorak (95:03)

I got some clips after you're done.

Adam Curry (95:05)

Okay. And this is the second part where just yaks a little more. But, but this is, you know, so he mentions Russian media. So I went to Russian media. I did deep searches. I, I went to two or three different sites that I could get to on a vpn. There's nothing. I don't know what he's talking about. This is an op of some sort, maybe, or maybe this is actually taking place. They have a lot of videos coming in from these, you know. You know, you can think Elon Musk might be behind it because it's his satellites that are providing us with any.

John C. Dvorak (95:39)

Wait a minute. So what you're saying is, you question if it's real?

Adam Curry (95:43)

Oh, yeah, big time.

John C. Dvorak (95:44)

Okay.

Adam Curry (95:46)

But at the same time, New York Times does have a story, but they couch it slightly differently. But it's buried. And you'd think it might not be buried because remember the last time there was like a pink revolution or some bull crap during Obama Green green, green revolution, green. And that they, that crapped out. But it got a lot of, got a lot of PR in Western media. This is getting nothing. This is getting no play at all.

John C. Dvorak (96:11)

Well, hello, we have, we have ice in Minnesota. That's much more important.

Adam Curry (96:16)

And if this is not, and if this isn't up and it's not taking place and it's all created, it's all a fantasy that's worth covering too. I mean, you either cover it as a revolution that's taking place in Iran because this is a major country, or if it's bull crap, you cover that as such, it's not being covered in any way at all except by, you know, right here. And it's. So it's something somewhat mysterious, the whole thing. But the Russians, I don't see anything in Russian media that said that, that the, that the regime has fallen. But maybe he's got a different source than I do. But let's play part two.

John C. Dvorak (96:54)

Shortly after this, we had a massive escalation as the officers of the representative, the direct representative of hominate, the supreme leader. So his branch, basically his IRGC branch, was taken over and destroyed. This is crazy, absolutely insane. The updates that we're getting tonight every night is just escalating slightly more. And just a reminder, only about three days ago, four days ago, the, the update came that of course the backup plan for harmony and 20 of his closer people in the inner circle will be planning to flee to Moscow if the regime can't handle this and if defections begin, both of them have now started. The IRGC are not able to take back control of the country and we have, we continue to get more defections from the regime. So as, as I said, the Russian media are now reporting that the fall of the regime is imminent, is coming now at this point. So we don't know exactly how many hours or days we are looking at. But if tomorrow is like this or even escalates more government buildings fall, well, it's going to be bye bye Ali. But Kangan, in Iran, the Islamic forces, they are panicking so much. What did I tell you over the last 10, 11 days, they're not able to actually form an organized, structured crackdown like previously. So you only see a small group standing in a corner, the IRGC guys. And when they get desperate, when they get terrible terrified, they start shooting at whatever they see in front of them. Okay, so I have a couple of clips that I was able to find from France 24. And I think it's real and I think it really for one reason, and that's the money.

Adam Curry (98:44)

On shop shelves in Iran, products abound.

John C. Dvorak (98:46)

But no one's buying. Amid the worst economic crisis in years. They just don't have the money. A liter of cooking oil used to be 790,000 riyals. It's now 1.85 million. As the government announced, prices for other goods will rise by 50% to 100%. As goods become more expensive, costs for all services will increase too. The price hikes will spread into other areas of people's lives.

Adam Curry (99:13)

Iranians took to the streets late last month as the rial plunged to 1.4 million against the US dollar.

John C. Dvorak (99:19)

With inflation in overdrive, the rial's lost 60% of its value against the greenback. Since summer, while warning of severe consequences.

Adam Curry (99:27)

For rioters, Iranian authorities have struggled to.

John C. Dvorak (99:30)

Shore up the collapsing economy, recently ending a subsidized exchange rate for importers that.

Adam Curry (99:36)

Was meant to suppress prices for essential products in favor of paying Iranians directly. We have not eliminated subsidies. Instead, we have started depositing the subsidies into the bank accounts of all residents.

John C. Dvorak (99:53)

The sum, about $7, ought to pay.

Adam Curry (99:55)

For around 100 eggs and a few kilos of rice or chicken at current prices.

John C. Dvorak (99:59)

While it'll help Iran's poorest, the policy.

Adam Curry (100:01)

Change is set to push prices even higher.

John C. Dvorak (100:06)

I think they saw that they couldn't rein in inflation, so they said, let's get people a million tomens so we can somehow absorb the pressure to hold it back. I mean, it's like a temporary painkiller.

Adam Curry (100:17)

Iran's reformist president has acknowledged his people's.

John C. Dvorak (100:20)

Pain, but if he wants to make more than just a gesture, he may.

Adam Curry (100:24)

Need far deeper change than Tehran has.

John C. Dvorak (100:26)

Until now been willing to make. Okay, so if you have rampant inflation like that and your solution is to give everybody a thousand bucks, that's not going to last very long. That is the definition of how you ruin it. And I think that there is real frustration. Water has been mismanaged.

Adam Curry (100:47)

People have been water, they're out of water.

John C. Dvorak (100:49)

There's no water. They can't. And I mean, there's video.

Adam Curry (100:52)

The bazaars are all closed, which is the main way of doing things.

John C. Dvorak (100:56)

That's the main thing.

Adam Curry (100:57)

But this inflation thing is. But again, this, even this report seems they never give you numbers. What's the number? I'll ask you. Right. Because it wasn't in that report. What is their inflation number in Iran right now?

John C. Dvorak (101:09)

Well, he, he didn't give the inflation number, but the guy said it used to be 750,000 shekels, whatever they use over there.

Adam Curry (101:19)

Reals.

John C. Dvorak (101:19)

Reals. And now it's 1.5. So, I mean, that seems like a, like a 100% inflation right there. Yeah.

Adam Curry (101:29)

Which is not. Right now. The inflation rate in Iran is, depending on who you ask, is between 40 and 50%.

John C. Dvorak (101:37)

That's not per year.

Adam Curry (101:39)

Per year.

John C. Dvorak (101:39)

That's not good either.

Adam Curry (101:41)

No, it's not good. It's bad. In fact, we had 9%, but it's cumulative, which makes it really worse over time. But it's. But at a 40%, the numbers are giving. Don't make sense because a 40% year over year, I'm going to go with the low number. 40% year over year means that something from debt last year cost a buck is not going to cost you a buck. 40. Okay, is that, is that, that's not like the numbers are going into the million billions. That's just, I think this. Listen, I'm telling you, there's an op going on here.

John C. Dvorak (102:12)

Well, it could be a financial op. I, Scott Bessant may be doing something really interesting. I don't know. So, yeah, the annual inflation rate 42.4%. This is from my robot, point to point inflation, which is between December 2024. December 2025 is 52.6. So it's rising by about 3,4% month over month. But you make it impossible for people to buy food and have no water. Yeah, they're going to get angry now. I did find one guy. I can't find any op connections to him. His name is Kian Habibian. And by the way, Iran is not a bunch of towel head bunnies running around in the desert.

Adam Curry (102:57)

No, they're Persians. It's a very old culture.

John C. Dvorak (102:59)

Yes. And they have a lot of connections to America in particular.

Adam Curry (103:03)

I think they're sick and tired of covering their pretty women up well.

John C. Dvorak (103:06)

So this guy actually comes from. He was the co founder originally of we are Iranian Students and he was also a part of something about the women.

Adam Curry (103:16)

Yeah. The Iranian students, by the way, are the ones responsible for putting this administration in place in 79. In the first place it was the Iranian students, but okay, yeah, okay, 1979. Okay, I know. I'm just saying the Iranian students are just a bunch of stuff. Screw ups.

John C. Dvorak (103:32)

Okay, well let's give them the benefit of the doubt and let's listen to this guy, Kian Habibian.

Various Interviewees/Clips (103:37)

These protesters in Tehran's Grand Bazaar chanted slogans calling for the fall of the Iranian regime. They were ultimately dispersed when security forces fired tear gas. Since 28 December, the demonstrations have spread from Tehran to other areas, particularly in the west of the country. They were initially against the high cost of living, but in Africa, taking aim at the regime itself. As this founder of a group supporting Iran's protesters explained to France.

John C. Dvorak (104:01)

24 since last Sunday, it started with the bazaar, who went on strike and quickly joined by students. But the protests and the pressure inside of Iran, whether it is social or economic, is so high on the population that you have different parts of the population who are right now in the streets. You have all the people who don't follow find jobs. You have the students, you have the merchants, you have our parents, our grandparents. All the people have joined in the common Core to end the regime.

Various Interviewees/Clips (104:31)

Iranian authorities have announced they will give a monthly allowance to every citizen in the country in a bid to alleviate economic pressure. But for some Iranians, it's not enough. The government says it has heard the concerns of protesters, but has stepped up a crackdown on what it calls rioters. According to Norway based NGO Iran Human Rights security forces have killed dozens of demonstrators, including several minors. Iranian authorities say Clashes have also claimed the lives of members of the security forces, including a policeman who was shot dead on Tuesday. US President Donald Trump has warned Iranian authorities against killing peaceful protesters, threatening that the US Would intervene.

John C. Dvorak (105:08)

So this Kiyan guy, he's, he's based in Paris. He used to be a professional ice hockey player. So that's how I guess he ejected a. Out. But this thing started kind of, there was a. They have their martyr, martyr Masha Amini, who died in the hospital under, you know, suspicious.

Adam Curry (105:27)

Yeah, that was over a year ago.

John C. Dvorak (105:29)

Yeah. So it's been brewing since then. That's when he came onto the scene and started, started making noise. So, I mean, to me, I don't know if this is an op. I mean, if you're right, I agree with your premise that if this was an op, we'd have a strange story. All we have is this ice hockey player. So there's no story, there's no one to talk to. The, there's, there's no officials, there's no intelligence officers on TV saying anything. You got President Trump saying, hey man, if you kill people, I'm going to step in. And meanwhile, you have real economic problems. You know what? We need to airdrop some stablecoin on these people. That's always, that's always the answer. We need to airdrop some stablecoin. I do have.

Adam Curry (106:19)

So anyway, my point is, is that this is going on one way or the other and it's, it's. The media is so poor in this country that we don't even, there's not even an inkling, no one's even touching it. It's just beyond me.

John C. Dvorak (106:35)

I got two more short BBC reports.

Various Interviewees/Clips (106:38)

So tell us more about these protests which have been going on for 10 days and which seem, if anything, to be intensifying, are a big challenge to the Iranian ruler's grip on power.

Adam Curry (106:47)

That's true. We are definitely getting the picture of the spate of unrest expanding rather than dying down today. So far we've got reports of unrest from several cities from the very top of Iran to the bottom of Iran, from the west to the middle of Iran. And some of them are violent violence by who between the demonstrators and the security. An interesting thing in this expansion of this unrest in Iran is reaching smaller villages. And this is what we witnessed during the 1979 revolution, that it had got to the level of villages. And today we're getting signs of that. So, yeah, it is deepening now also.

John C. Dvorak (107:38)

Venezuela plays in into this. You know, there has been a stop of Money flow. And oil is money. It's just pure money. You can trade it for anything you want anywhere in the world. And you know that Venezuela may have been more of a hub than we realize for the Iranian regime. And I still don't. I'd like someone to explain to me why, you know, what has happened to the real. Is that purely money printing? More, because they only compare it to the dollar. So what is going on? What happened there? That's the part that I don't understand. But the economy is.

Adam Curry (108:15)

There's always money printing.

John C. Dvorak (108:17)

Yeah. Okay, so then they printed a whole bunch of money. Try and pacify everybody. It didn't work. It doesn't have to be an up. It just doesn't have to be.

Adam Curry (108:27)

No, I agree. This could be an actual revolution, a real grassworks grassroots. A grassroots revolution revolution that's actually from the taking, a sincere one that's not being run by an intelligence agency that's not being run by us or the Russians or anybody else. It could actually be genuine. And then that makes it even worse to me, because you have a genuine situation taking place that's in today's Day 12. And after 12 days, mainstream media does not cover a bit of it because it's not being run by an intel agency. So the mainstream media is only going to. To cover what they're told to cover by the CIA. Is that what we're ending up with here? Is that the conclusion I can draw?

John C. Dvorak (109:18)

Well, of course it is. It's either about the midterms or it's an op. Why cover anything else?

Adam Curry (109:28)

And by the way, this, this does have an application to the midterms because if. If Iran falls, that they'd be immediately friendly with the United States. Trump would get critical credit for it because he bombed the nuclear facilities. Oh, and he.

John C. Dvorak (109:43)

I did it.

Adam Curry (109:43)

And supposedly, if you listen to this guy, TUCI tv, he's always referring to Trump. He's doing Trump gags and he's doing Trump voices and he's saying. And he's saying the public loves Trump. In Iran, they love him.

John C. Dvorak (109:57)

I believe that. I believe that to be true.

Adam Curry (110:00)

I believe it to be true, too. And I think it's the same thing in Venezuela. And so you have to download, downplay it to a max, because you don't need Trump getting credit because we have the 2016 midterms coming up and the Democrats might lose a seat. And listen, that's the only thing I can think of for suppressing this to an extreme.

John C. Dvorak (110:19)

Well, how about this? Trump's NSS is working, the national security strategy is working, and this oil deal where we can set the price, that is not going to do any favors for Iranian oil either. Like, hey man, why should I go through the hassle of getting it from you and changing my transponder and shutting it off and I can just get it from Trump? Seriously? Yeah, there is. Luckily, luckily there's an Israel angle from the BBC.

Various Interviewees/Clips (110:52)

As protests continue across Iran, a human rights group says at least 36 people have been killed during the past 10 days of demonstrations. The human rights activists news agencies agency says two of them were affiliated with the security forces. The unrest was sparked by an economic crisis and has now spread to most of Iran's provinces. Meanwhile, officials say a man accused of spying for Israel has been executed. Kasra Naji of the BBC Persian Service.

John C. Dvorak (111:19)

Told me more about him.

Adam Curry (111:22)

According to Iranian officials, his name is Ali Ardestani. The Iranian authorities are saying that he was a key Mossad agent and that he was passing on censor sensitive information to Israelis and photographing particular places and gathering information about sensitive subjects in return for a million dollar reward, according to the Iranian authorities, in cryptocurrency and also rewarded with a British visa. We don't know anything more than that. They haven't, by the way, connected this to the present unrest in Iran.

John C. Dvorak (112:07)

They haven't.

Adam Curry (112:08)

They haven't. But nonetheless, the message is clear. And this man is probably the 12th or 13th person who's been executed vis a vis Mossad and Israel on alleged spying for Israel in the past six months.

John C. Dvorak (112:26)

Luckily, the BBC can kind of insinuate the Jews did it. That's always good. The thing that we're missing here is who wants to fill the vacuum if the regime really does fall and you've got that prince in London living in exile and he's only doing YouTube and podcasts in Farsi. He hasn't. Which is another reason to believe it's more real than an op because he's not doing any English spoken podcasts, it's all Farsi. Then he's going on for 10, 15 minutes and who knows what he's talking about?

Adam Curry (113:06)

Well, they, this, this has been discussed by this 2C guy, 2C TV guy. He's giving him orders. He says you, I think the latest one is you're supposed to all stop doing some briars, supposed to come out in a certain time and a certain day.

John C. Dvorak (113:22)

Oh, the prince is doing that. The crown Prince?

Adam Curry (113:25)

Yeah, he's doing that. Yeah, he's, he's telling him what to Do. And. And they are. And if you watch enough of this other guy, there's a lot of chanting for him to take over.

John C. Dvorak (113:38)

But. But he's suspicious at this point. This guy, the. The prince has got to be British intelligence.

Adam Curry (113:46)

I mean, you don't live in life, you know, unless. Unless they've dropped the ball.

John C. Dvorak (113:52)

Wow. Well, with that new MI6 lady, it wouldn't surprise me. She doesn't seem like she's very good, you know, the python. The Python lady. Like, we want you all to learn to code Python that lady.

Adam Curry (114:06)

Yeah, right. Yeah. Who the. She's a dummy.

John C. Dvorak (114:12)

And then in the trifecta, or is it quad fecta? At this point, we have Columbia and breaking news. President Petro had a little phone call with President Trump and that changed everything overnight. Well, the thousands of supporters assembled on this Simon Bolivar square in central Bogota assisted to a remarkable twist of events this evening. As President Petro stepped onto the stage, basically mumbled, took some papers out of his pocket and explained that he had just spoken to Donald Trump. Trump on the phone in the car as he was driving to the event, and that he would have to change his whole speech. Indeed, everybody was expecting a frontal attack against the American president. Well, in fact, he explained that he had spoken for 15 minutes with him and that both men had decided to meet in person, with President Petro inviting Donald Trump here in Colombia and Donald Trump inviting him to the White House. Donald Trump the later confirmed that indeed he had charged Marco Rubio of organa organizing the meeting in a close future. President Petro also explained that he'd spoken with Del C Rodriguez, the new leader of Venezuela, saying that there as well he would like to organize meetings, trilateral meetings with the United States. So indeed, it was a complete shift in the whole paradigm of this crisis. Indeed, President Petro saying there would be a complete change to the relationship with the guy said paradigm for paradigm is.

Adam Curry (115:43)

The word he's looking for.

John C. Dvorak (115:45)

He would like to organize meetings, trilateral meetings with the United States. So indeed, it was a complete shift in the whole paradigm of this crisis. Indeed, President Petro saying that there would be a complete shift change when it comes to the relationship with the United States, that the canal had been reopened and indeed solutions could be found. So I wonder how that phone call went. Hey, did you see Maduro? Would you like a nice ride or would you like a not nice ride?

Adam Curry (116:17)

I really don't think so. I think there's other. And Rubio is the main guy. I mean, when they picked Rubio, I said it right at the galaxy.

John C. Dvorak (116:25)

You nailed it. You nailed the whole hemisphere. You. You actually front ran the Don Road doctrine.

Adam Curry (116:31)

I did.

John C. Dvorak (116:32)

You did.

Adam Curry (116:32)

And that's because.

John C. Dvorak (116:36)

I want you to take that for a second and do a little victory lap, because you. I'm going to give it to you. You called that months in advance. You said Rubio's the guy, it's going to be north, south, and that you don't. Another reason people should be listening to the no Agenda Show. We are months ahead of this stuff. You nailed it.

Adam Curry (117:02)

You nailed it here almost. You nailed it because Rubio, you know, he's fluent in Spanish, obviously, and he's not. Not Spanish Spanish, but Western hemisphere Spanish, which is different. And he can talk to these guys directly and emphatically with probably a fabulous vocabulary. And he is the guy that was probably doing the translation between Trump, Rubio and the guy, because Rubio was. Is involved. This Rubio is the guy. He's doing the job here to take care of these things. And I don't think there's threats going on. I think it's just after the Maduro thing, it's all gonna be a lot of agreeing. And I think Rubio can sell it. I think Rubio's learned from Trump, if nothing else, how to sell better than he used to. He was always, you know, had to have some chops, but now he knows what he's doing.

John C. Dvorak (117:52)

So now that we've seen the national security strategy unfold, someone actually gave me a good idea. One of our producers said, hey, hey, man, you should do a comparison between the national security strategy and the Project for a New American Century, which I thought was a good idea. And indeed, if you see the. There's a lot of commonalities. Space dominance, global missile defense versus the golden Dome, peace through strike strength, military spending, which, by the way, I don't know if you caught this. This was crazy. Let me see. Here it is. Listen to this. The US President made the announcement on Wednesday on social media. He wants to increase defense spending to $1.5 trillion in 2027. He wants to build a, quote, dream military. And pointing to the unstable geopolitical landscape as motivation. The spending act allocated in this year's budget is at $901 billion and basically was at that level over the $900 billion mark for the previous four years, as you can see on that graph. This has led to major US Defense stocks like Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman and Raytheon rising in extended trading in New York after the announcement. But Trump did set conditions on these groups in a separate post, vowing to force these companies to speed up arms deliveries and to build new manufacturing plants by cracking down on payouts to shareholders and executives. He singled out Raytheon for criticism, saying either Raytheon steps up and starts investing in more upfront investment like plants and equipment, or they will no longer be doing business with the Department of, of war. That didn't get a lot of play, interestingly enough.

Adam Curry (119:48)

No, I didn't hear that either.

John C. Dvorak (119:50)

That so? Hey.

Adam Curry (119:52)

Well, he's. I did hear about Trump bitching and moaning about stock buybacks.

John C. Dvorak (119:56)

Now, we played that on a couple of shows ago.

Various Interviewees/Clips (119:58)

Yeah.

John C. Dvorak (119:58)

But I didn't hear about the increase in the 1.5 trillion.

Adam Curry (120:01)

No, I never heard that. But I never heard the threat to Raytheon either, which is.

John C. Dvorak (120:04)

I love that. I love that. What he's saying is we need an economy. We need factories, we need people. And that means jobs for engineers, jobs for lawyers, jobs for marketers, jobs. Good paying union, good paying military jobs. It's that, you know, that's. Forget the.

Adam Curry (120:25)

What they should also pay for, they should pay for auditing the Pentagon. Yeah, let's face it, 1.5 trillion is going to be. Half of that's going to be a scam, a fraud, a ripoff. You know, there's no doubt about it.

John C. Dvorak (120:40)

Well, remember, remember that headseth announced a whole new procurement system. So I don't think we're ever going to audit retroactively, but I have a feeling that they're going forward. There's going to be a lot more accountability for how the money is spent because that's all that Trump is whining about. It's like, hey, you're taking too long to build it. You've got overruns. You're doing stock buy buybacks. No, you want money, you got to do it right. So, no, we're not going to. There's never going to be an accounting for all the stolen money in the past. But it seems like there's going to be some accountability moving forward and it's going to benefit America. Oh, no, America first. Oh, no. It could happen. Nah. And this other, you know, I get a lot of notes after doing our Zoomer versus Boomer segment. And people always come back to the same thing. It's always, how come we're, we're helping the people of Venezuela. But we were poor. And I go into dialogue and it always comes down to the same thing. I can't afford to buy a house. My dad bought a house for $16 in 1922.

Adam Curry (121:53)

$16.50 from the Sears catalog.

John C. Dvorak (121:57)

But so, and this is interesting because this is something the former New York banker said. It's not. Not happening. That's not happening. President Trump now announces he is immediately taking steps to ban large institutional investors Blackstone from buying single family homes.

Adam Curry (122:14)

Blackstone and blackrock both.

John C. Dvorak (122:16)

And I'm.

Adam Curry (122:17)

That's what John buys barrier houses. You always see these things in the local papers around here or the TV centers. Bill and Jim, we'll buy your house. Unlooked at. We'll just get you the money. And they. I get phone calls. I get two or three phone calls a month.

John C. Dvorak (122:33)

Wow.

Adam Curry (122:33)

Yeah, I'd say because I, you know, I own my mom's old house and they keep asking if I want to sell it. They ask me if I want to sell this house. We'll give you cash. Just tell us what you want. And, and they are paying top dollar.

John C. Dvorak (122:46)

Well, that's going to be over. And I, and I have a feeling he might even force them to sell. He's going to Congress. He's, you know, his post says, I will be calling on Congress to cut. Modify it. People live in homes, not corporations. I will discuss this topic, including further housing and affordability proposals and more of my speech in Davos in two weeks. He's going to Davos. Holy.

Adam Curry (123:12)

Interesting.

John C. Dvorak (123:12)

Holy mo. Well, it's interesting in light of. Hold on a second. Where do I have it? Here? This. Let me see. Withdraw. Here it is. This is. This is a crappy report because, of course, it was impossible to get any, any good mainstream reporting on it. But this just happened.

Various Interviewees/Clips (123:38)

President Trump announced the United States will withdraw from 66 international organizations and treaties. This includes major bodies like the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

Adam Curry (123:51)

Climate change.

Various Interviewees/Clips (123:53)

The decision follows a review by Secretary of State Marco Rubio, citing these groups as contrary to US Interests. Critics warn the move could hurt American companies and communities by sidelining the country in the booming clean energy sector. Supporters argue it will stop US Funding for what they call ineffective global agendas. The withdrawal marks a historic shift, leaving the US as the only. The only nation outside key climate treaties.

John C. Dvorak (124:20)

66. They haven't published the executive order yet. I looked, but I want. That's, That's a lot of international things.

Adam Curry (124:28)

You're leaving. Yes, it is.

John C. Dvorak (124:29)

And then to go to Davos and then rub it in everybody's face. This is going to be an interesting davo. What do you think? What will the hooker price be?

Adam Curry (124:39)

I would Say you bring extra security.

John C. Dvorak (124:42)

Probably a great good idea. Speaking of security, I want to thank you for your courage. Say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in the ice, say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only, Mr. John C. Devor.

Various Interviewees/Clips (124:59)

Yeah.

Adam Curry (124:59)

In the morning to you, Mr. Curry. In the morning, our ship sea boost in the ground feeding the air subs in the water in the dames and knights out there.

John C. Dvorak (125:05)

In the morning to the trolls in the troll room. Hold on a second. And don't move. Get out from under that bridge. Okay.

Various Interviewees/Clips (125:15)

All right.

John C. Dvorak (125:16)

People are still interested in what we have to say. 16:21 today on the troll countage who are listening live because they want to know what the boys have to say. I heard Darren and Larry, they're talking about us, you know. What's that?

Adam Curry (125:33)

I just noticed that Darren didn't have a pogues medley on today's show.

John C. Dvorak (125:37)

They're so convinced that they are the heirs to, to this show and I want them to keep thinking that. I think that's a very good idea. It's called the licensing deal and we're open for conversation.

Adam Curry (125:48)

Yeah, we'll do the deal.

John C. Dvorak (125:49)

We could do a 99 year licensing deal with Planet Rage. It would be funny. They're an interesting team. They're an interesting team. I do like listening to them. So yeah, that's the trolls checking in. And of course you can also troll along in the troll room which is known as stream.com. it's an IR see, chat is very simple. It's ephemeral. You yell, you rant, you rave and it just scrolls off and no one hears that about it anymore. So it's much better than social media and it's better for your health. Much better for your health. I was going to. Was there something I wanted to thinking. Was there some M5M bonus clip? Oh yeah, yeah. You know the corporation for public broadcasting shut down.

Adam Curry (126:36)

Yeah, I know when they decided to shut down. They're still, you know, kind of shutting down.

John C. Dvorak (126:41)

Well, kind. Whatever they're doing. So I have this clip from WNIN Evansville, Indiana.

Adam Curry (126:47)

Before you play it.

John C. Dvorak (126:48)

Yeah.

Adam Curry (126:49)

I want to reiterate the fact that that woman who's running NPR and, and, and has association with wiki and the rest of that. I can't remember her name. Mara or whatever her name is.

John C. Dvorak (126:58)

Yeah, the, the.

Adam Curry (127:00)

Yes, that girl, that blondie, she's the, she said it. The, that the public sponsorship. The public, the taxpayers money that goes into NPR amount to 1%. 1%.

John C. Dvorak (127:15)

Well, that 1% is ruining the business of W NIN in Evansville, Indiana, who are a PBS affiliate as well as an NPR affiliate. And they did a little statement about this and well, I can predict what's going to happen. The end of an era after 58 years of service, the Corporation for Public.

Adam Curry (127:36)

Broadcast Broadcasting is closing its doors.

John C. Dvorak (127:38)

The organization voted today to dissolve. It has been operating since 1967.

Adam Curry (127:43)

Over the past six months, Public Broadcasting station WNIN in Evansville has faced federal.

John C. Dvorak (127:48)

And state funding cuts. Station leaders tell us the decision is just a formality.

Adam Curry (127:53)

He tells us not much of the.

John C. Dvorak (127:55)

Station'S operations is expected to change. What our supporters see and hear is not going to change a whole lot lot. We're going to continue to focus on what our mission has always been. Internally it probably is going to mean somewhat of a different business model. Not exactly sure what that's going to look like at this point, but certainly because we can't depend upon a lot of funding from the federal government, we're going to have to find other ways of generating that revenue.

Adam Curry (128:21)

We're told that content will remain the same with only behind the scenes changes as the station looks to find new ways to do business.

John C. Dvorak (128:29)

Yeah, ads.

Adam Curry (128:31)

Yep.

John C. Dvorak (128:32)

Code Bongino.

Adam Curry (128:34)

Yeah, ads for pharma ads.

John C. Dvorak (128:36)

Yes, ads are coming and maybe they'll throw in some Archer Daniel Midlands, by the way, another big commodity trader. They'll throw that in there. So yeah, ads are coming and it's. And it's a death spiral, particularly the dynamically inserted ads. Oh man. The podcast industrial complex is just going to crazy about it because people are now starting to complain to such a degree that there's comp. There's ad blocking podcast apps and ad blocking companies popping up everywhere. Good.

Adam Curry (129:08)

Yes, good.

Various Interviewees/Clips (129:09)

Yes.

John C. Dvorak (129:10)

I think it's a great idea. I mean I don't think the way they're doing it is great because they're in essence copying the file and selling it for a buck 25. It's not exactly the way it should work. That's kind of theft in a way. But people are sick of the ads and it's, it's rampant everywhere every. Because whenever you do a dynamically insert ads there is an unlimited inventory. It's unlimited. So the cpm, the cost per thousand just goes down and down and down and down which means you have to have more and more and more ads and it just becomes unlistenable. We're not going down that route. We also when never have. We're not going to do subscriptions. Oh man. How Many subscriptions can you afford? That's the first thing to go. Well, you know, I subscribe to Pivot, but, you know, it's like I just said I should probably just watch the clips on YouTube for free. That's what's going on. No, instead, we said we would like to have longevity. A friend of mine pulled episode number one, and they said, dreadful. He said, okay. The sound wasn't as good.

Adam Curry (130:23)

No.

John C. Dvorak (130:24)

But it was 37 minutes in length. Our first episode ever, there were no jingles. In fact, we were proud of not having jingles.

Adam Curry (130:32)

Yeah, we made a big deal about it.

John C. Dvorak (130:34)

But he said. He said, you know, the way you guys interacted despite a little more delay, because we were using Skype back in the day, and you sounded like you were talking through. Through a straw from time to time. He said, but it's. It's been remarkably consistent. And like. Yeah, well, that's true. We have. We have never changed. And this is what I was explaining to Tina. You're never going to fly private, okay? Just get used to it. It's never going to happen. It's never. Unless you want to go. My little.

Adam Curry (131:04)

My little Cessna that's flying private.

John C. Dvorak (131:07)

She doesn't consider that to be flying private. If she has to get in, what is.

Adam Curry (131:11)

What is it then?

John C. Dvorak (131:13)

Getting in over the wing is not flying private. She says, unless there's stairs that drop down from the fuselage, it's not flying private. And I have to agree with her.

Adam Curry (131:23)

I disagree. I think getting in a helicopter is flying private.

John C. Dvorak (131:28)

Anyway, that's beyond the point. I said, because we're gonna do this. She says, I hope you make it till 20 years. What do you hope you make until 20 years? We're going forever with this thing. We're gonna die in this saddle.

Adam Curry (131:41)

Well, until we drop.

John C. Dvorak (131:42)

Yeah, one of us is going to drop. And then, you know, hopefully. We should probably have a dead man switch and have that licensing deal for. For Darren and. And Larry in the pocket for, you know, for our heirs. Think about it. We just give him half. Half, by the way, we do the money. I'm loving this idea more and more. Everybody, single day. Everybody has a B team. Why don't we have a farm team set up?

Adam Curry (132:13)

Yeah, well, you know, you make a good point.

John C. Dvorak (132:16)

I knew you'd like it. Yeah. All right, well, we should hold open auditions. Really? I'm liking this.

Adam Curry (132:23)

Open auditions. I'd like to see a few of the ladies.

John C. Dvorak (132:28)

Yes, yes. And we'll even switch on the video. We would like to have open auditions. We'll do five minutes. Five minutes. Five minutes of media deconstruction. You can throw in a clip or two, send it in. Adamcurry.com I am very curious. And if you. If it's video, even better, even better. But you have to adhere to the same value for value model otherwise you're going to screw it up for yourself. Because that's what we've learned after 18 years. This is what works. And it works because we don't have to kowtow to subscribers, advertisers, any of that stuff. No, we just. We are consistent with. There's. We are not captured by our audience. People get. Get mad, leave in a huff and they come back or they don't or new people come in. It's John Spurlock who runs op3.dev it's an open source measurement system, part of podcasting 2.0. He says I have never seen in all the podcasts he monitors. He monitors four and a half million. There is no audience as loyal as the no agenda audience. I should probably get an official statement from him.

Adam Curry (133:38)

Yeah. Have him sign it and seal it.

Various Interviewees/Clips (133:41)

Yes.

Adam Curry (133:42)

What does he mean by that?

John C. Dvorak (133:43)

He says that the loyalty. I guess he can see this. The loyalty.

Adam Curry (133:48)

Doing it by IP addresses.

John C. Dvorak (133:51)

Well, it's not just. He has a whole system. This guy is a genius. He's ex Google. He retired. He lives on a ranch in New Jersey.

Adam Curry (134:00)

He's one of those guys.

John C. Dvorak (134:01)

Yeah.

Adam Curry (134:02)

And he said he's a guy's got that. He was. Yeah, I know the type. That's an engineer's meant a true. You know these. Some people can. I've said this before, I'll bring it up one more time. There are people out there, like for example, Chet Heath that used to work at IBM. He always used to look and I know other people too that could do this. George Morrow could do it. He'd look at a bus structure and see what the. What the signals were supposed to be and he could see immediately where there'd be a. A conflict. Another friend of mine was a. Used to be a antenna engineer at Grumman and he said he could look at it and just look at an antenna and say that's not going to work. And then he says it took him decades before he realized that nobody else could see what he was seeing. When he saw that the antenna wouldn't work because he could see how the waves came in. I don't know what he's looking at, but it's like these kind of guys are out there and he's Obviously one of those guys, these guys has got a sense of this stuff.

John C. Dvorak (134:59)

He's also a super nice guy and he's worth a follow because he always has links to very interesting stories and posts. And he's a, he's a, he's a good guy and he's doing all of this just for the love of podcasting. He doesn't charge anybody for it. And he's. Yeah. So when he says, when he said, makes a statement like that, I tend to believe him. How he does it, I don't know. I don't know.

Adam Curry (135:21)

I probably right. He's probably right.

John C. Dvorak (135:23)

I mean we do redirect through op3.dev, which, you know, thousands of podcasts do this now because it is. You can go right on op3.dev, you can take a look. You can, you can see all of his stats and everything. It's great. So that's the point. We have a loyal audience. There's people who stick with us, are with us for a long time now.

Adam Curry (135:41)

That doesn't mean a lot of them don't donate.

John C. Dvorak (135:44)

Well, no, why would. It's free. Why would you do that? You know, like I don't have to go to that cheese shop. What happened to the cheese shop? Oh, it's gone. You know why? He didn't to want buy any cheese. So keep buying our cheese, people. Yeah, it helps and supports open podcasting by getting a modern podcast app. Podcast apps.com. so now we want to thank people, our supporters, our producers. Yeah, our, our Duke of Texas, Sir Gene. He posted a, like a negative comment on X. He showed some video of like some Dearborn Muslims celebrating some holiday. They celebrate, you know, the 40 years after somebody of Muhammad's died. I don't know what it was. And they do this dance and looks kind of militaristic and he posts. I would. I trust my own eyes watching a video over some so called listeners who have anonymous listeners. Boots on the ground. I trust our boots on the ground around. We sniff out the spooks and we encourage the spooks to email us.

Adam Curry (136:53)

Oh yeah, we need more spooks. We need spooks. They tell us what's going on. They, they're trying to feed us stuff, of course, but we try to spot that in there and they maybe sometimes donate from a safe house or someplace where they have some extra money and they can send it in.

John C. Dvorak (137:08)

We encourage that too.

Adam Curry (137:10)

We encourage that. And it has not been happening much.

John C. Dvorak (137:12)

No, we are a safe, A spook. Safe, safe Outfit. Send our. Send your money.

Adam Curry (137:19)

Yeah, I don't understand what I think, you know, they must have a. I see it as some sort of cycle where they get a bunch of money and all of a sudden they. Okay, you guys, send it to your favorite podcasters.

John C. Dvorak (137:29)

There's a memo that goes out.

Adam Curry (137:30)

It's a memo once every quarter. This is the month you can send some money to these guys.

John C. Dvorak (137:35)

Here's the credit card you can use. Go ahead, use that.

Adam Curry (137:38)

Yeah, the good credit. Right here's credit cards, you know, they can't be traced.

John C. Dvorak (137:44)

Use the credit card you use for your honey trap operations with the hookers and use to send some money.

Adam Curry (137:49)

Put some extra money in there for the podcasters.

John C. Dvorak (137:52)

Yeah.

Adam Curry (137:52)

So. Yeah, but we haven't seen that recently.

John C. Dvorak (137:55)

And think about it.

Adam Curry (137:56)

Unless they're really slipping in and surreptitiously.

John C. Dvorak (137:59)

No, no, no. We're pretty good.

Adam Curry (138:00)

It's pretty obvious when it comes in.

John C. Dvorak (138:02)

Yeah, and, and, and, and it's much better that we have this, this, this method because then what are they going to do? Buy more Farmer's Dog to influence Joe Rogan? No, it's not going to work anyway. Time, talent, treasure. We want to thank the artists for episode 1831. Of course we had to title that the Don Row Doctrine. Once again we're a little bit ahead of the curve now everybody's using it but we heard it because the President said people are calling it the Don Row Doctrine. It's amazing. I don't know know how they came up with it. And Darren o' Neill nailed it. He just nailed it. This was although very orange. Meaning we kind of know what, what language model he used. He had the no agenda nicotine cookies. They are satisfying and smooth. 33 packs and be fat and addicted is a beautiful piece of art with some fat like loser with although has very good looking teeth.

Adam Curry (138:59)

Eating one of ice cream and a beanie.

John C. Dvorak (139:00)

And a beanie. A beanie with a propeller. Although the propeller was kind of, you know, the AI didn't do the propeller very well. That kind of failed. But it was a great piece.

Adam Curry (139:12)

It's very funny. You can't look at it and not laugh.

John C. Dvorak (139:15)

Now the question is when Darren and Larry do the show, you know, on a licensing deal, will they do their own art or will they, will they sub license the art to someone else?

Adam Curry (139:26)

Let me think. Darren, he'll be doing all the art.

John C. Dvorak (139:33)

All the, all the end of show.

Adam Curry (139:34)

With Jeff, that guy.

John C. Dvorak (139:42)

I was gonna take a look at the art generator, although it seems to have slowed down To a crawl. Looks like the troll room's having trouble, too.

Adam Curry (139:53)

I got on it a little while ago.

John C. Dvorak (139:54)

Oh, you got on it earlier.

Adam Curry (139:56)

It's got a lot of stuff.

John C. Dvorak (139:57)

Yeah. Well, do you want to talk about. Oh, okay. I got it. Some of the other pieces that were submitted that we looked at that. Let me scroll. There's a lot coming in.

Adam Curry (140:07)

Well, I like the little. The Jeffrey Ray had a couple good pieces. He had the ultralights flying scooter. You. You would. That was There.

John C. Dvorak (140:16)

Didn't like the flying scooter.

Adam Curry (140:17)

I like the flying scooter.

John C. Dvorak (140:19)

Yeah. It was aeronautically dumb. Made no sense.

Adam Curry (140:23)

Oh, yeah, That's. That's.

John C. Dvorak (140:25)

It would chop you in half. Okay. It would chop you in half.

Adam Curry (140:29)

It was no good CIA traffic.

John C. Dvorak (140:31)

I kind of liked comics or bloggers. Emergency pod. But you nix that right away. Like we're not going to.

Adam Curry (140:36)

No, I didn't. You nix it. We're not going to do emergency pod.

John C. Dvorak (140:40)

No, I did not. I thought it was funny. I thought it was a funny piece. I didn't nix it. I thought it was a funny piece.

Adam Curry (140:47)

Well, we're not using emergency pod. It makes it sound like we just did an emergency pod.

John C. Dvorak (140:52)

Well, that's kind of the joke. We don't do emergency pods. And we. And. Oh, yeah. And then Darren did foxbox, which was just wrong because it was box fox. He got that the wrong way around. We got a note about that. I'm gonna read that note. This is a Dame Jen with a G. Protector of women's vaginas.

Adam Curry (141:12)

Yeah, her.

John C. Dvorak (141:12)

That's a note that always gets some. Some attention from us. Listening to John's clip from TikTok girls, specifically the baby check boxes. These gals are no longer on SSRI medication. I'm seeing more and more of them in the clinic because she's a protector woman. Women's vaginas that are on a much stronger Molotov cocktail of atypical antipsychotics such as Lithium, Abilify, etc. They start on SSRI medication but still feel sad or anxious at times, so they get dosed up and more and more powerful drugs. Yeah, and then she had a hypothesis about she and. And the spook from Spokane hit the gym on January 2 and were shocked by the lack of crowds. And she says she attributes that to the GLP1 epidemic.

Adam Curry (142:04)

I thought that was a good observation because Horowitz always talks about. On the DH Unplug show, he's always talking about checking out the gym, you know, the first month of the New Year's always the parking lots are packed and then by March, there's nobody in the the parking lot. But it sounds like the way she's seeing it, it's not even going to be packed in January. Now, why bother going to the gym when I just take this pill?

John C. Dvorak (142:28)

She says it's a good time to invest in orthopedic surgeries if there's such a stock as these. Mostly women have shrunk to toothpicks and with the muscle loss are one slip away from breaking their hip, pelvis or knee. Invest in Orthos, they go. Another tip from your no Agenda show. Thank you very much. All right, let's thank our executive and associate executive producers. That's part of the time talents and treasure. The way it works is you get the show, we just give you the show. It's out there, you download it. You don't have to worry about any way of getting it. And when you have and there's no ads, of course when you get it, you're like, hey, that was worthwhile. I'm going to help these guys out, keep them going to hit at least 20 years, maybe more, which we're hoping will be more, more than that. And you send in any amount that equals the value you feel you got out of it. It's that simple. Sir Danimal comes in with $500 and he says, thanks to Nico Symes Tip of the Day archive, I had the best gift at my white elephant party. Tipoftheday.net is an outstanding resource. Merry New Year, Sir Danval Baron of the Secret City. Another. There's another reason. So he bought a $25 gift based upon a tip. And he was a hero at his White Elephant party. And he thanks the no Agenda show for that and we appreciate it. And thank you, Nico Syme, for maintaining tipoftheday.net, also to be found at noagendafund.com.

Adam Curry (143:53)

Traymond what do you think? Campbell? Campbell is Campbell.

John C. Dvorak (143:58)

Yeah, I think Campbell. Yeah.

Adam Curry (143:59)

And he's in a town called Supply. Really? Supply. North Carolina. Carolina. What are you doing there in supply? 333 69. This is Tremon Campbell of the Brunswick Isles. Hi, team. I want to start off calling out my close friend RP for being a douchebag. Douchebag. He hit me in the mouth in 2017. But he's yet. But he still remains a douchebag. I also need a de douching. Go. You've been dead douched. Quick production note the wife. The wife enjoys listening, but gets the wife enjoys listening but gets irked when y' all go on runs of constantly stepping on clips with jokes, comments, noises, etc. I enjoy it, but she wants to let you know she does not.

John C. Dvorak (144:57)

Well, can we recommend. Can we recommend Pivot as a podcast you might enjoy?

Adam Curry (145:06)

Yeah, Pivot. That'd be cool.

John C. Dvorak (145:07)

Go listen to Pivot.

Adam Curry (145:08)

I say step more, she says less. By the way, John, she loves Mimi's egg book.

John C. Dvorak (145:15)

Oh, well, there you go.

Adam Curry (145:16)

Win too many eggs.com too many eggs.com. there's a win V slash R but I don't know what that means. Is some code I guess. Train Raymond Campbell of the Brunswick Isles. P.S. i need some Reverend Al in my life. Dealer's choice.

John C. Dvorak (145:35)

Let's do a classic but resist we much we must and we will much about that. Be committed. Clint Young is in Spokane Valley, Washington. Sends in $320.26 ITM Adam and John. John and Adam. This donation takes me to knighthood. See accounting below. Jingle. He's Trump the President and a jobs karma with jobs yak karma. Okay, we could do that for you. I would like to be known as Sir Clinton of the Pacific Northwest and would like smoked brisket and zip fizz at the round table. Zip fizz? What is zip fizz? Must be a drink. I'm sending this donation January 7th in honor of my father Clark Young who passed away just before Thanksgiving as he would have turned 83 today. No, we're sorry to hear that.

Various Interviewees/Clips (146:26)

That.

John C. Dvorak (146:26)

That's too young. He was a hard working blue collar patriot who served in the Air Force and taught me to love God and country. Perfect guy. I know he's in a better place and I'm await the glorious day when I go to reunite. Reunite with him again. It will be glorious indeed. Hey by the way, I'd like to quickly plug my mobile DJ business. Anyone in eastern Washington or Northern Idaho looking for a DJ or MC for your wedding dance or corporate owners event or bar mitzvahs and bris, please visit cleveryak Media. Cleveryak Media. Adam and John, thank you for all you do. Soon to be Sir Clintilius of the Pacific Northwest. He's Trump. He's Trump the President.

Various Interviewees/Clips (147:16)

Jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.

Adam Curry (147:20)

Let's vote for jobs. Christopher Graves, our buddy from Little John's candies in Somerset, California. 2421 as one major candy holiday ends and the next is around the corner we want to do which I think is Valentine's Day. Valentine's Day.

John C. Dvorak (147:46)

Yes.

Adam Curry (147:47)

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John C. Dvorak (148:18)

Fresh.

Adam Curry (148:18)

Four more years.

John C. Dvorak (148:20)

Yeah, because you know this world famous English toffee doesn't stay good forever.

Adam Curry (148:24)

No, it's got butter in it. It's got a butter, a lot of butter.

John C. Dvorak (148:27)

And I love, I love the cards they're sending out to producers who use the icm.

Adam Curry (148:32)

Yes, someone sent us one that we didn't know about. They didn't tell us. But they're sending out this great little card that plugs the show.

John C. Dvorak (148:38)

Yeah, it's really nice. I love this system. And you know who's taking advantage of this is La Jolla Salt Corporation where they are in La Jolla, California. Go figure. 2, 10, 60. And they say now that the rush and bustle of the holiday season is boxed up till next year, why not treat yourself to a little more luxury with a sea salt scrub from la jollasalt.com Hoya is J O L L A. Indulge in the warm, glowing, warming glow of a moisturizer that exfoliates as it moisturizes. It's, it's, it's a ceiling. It's a floor wax and a dessert topping. It feels great. It smells great. It, it's great. La Jolla salt.com lajollasalt.com Try it again today. And people, please support the show. Thank you for your courage. Go podcasting. All right, La Jolla Salt. Thank you very much. I have moisturized and exfoliated and I feel fresh.

Adam Curry (149:31)

Yeah, you look fresh.

John C. Dvorak (149:32)

I do.

Adam Curry (149:33)

Eli the Coffee Guy 20108 I'm out of coffee. By the way, gentlemen, it's barely a week until the new year and things are already feel lively. Raids, riots and revolution.

John C. Dvorak (149:46)

Oh, that's so right. Raids, riots, revolutions. I gotta write that down. That's a possible show title.

Adam Curry (149:52)

And it's something he said you got cut off. It's the same calendar, just a new header. I'm planning to sit back and sip some coffee and enjoy the wild ride. You too. Won't be short on show material, that's for sure. Yeah, that's never, that's always the case. Case. One thing after another visit Gigawatt Coffee Roasters.com and use the code ITM20 for 20% off your order. Stay caffeinated. Eli the coffee guy. Can I get an Atlas Shrugged jingle?

John C. Dvorak (150:21)

Oh, I totally missed that.

Adam Curry (150:23)

Rare.

John C. Dvorak (150:24)

Yeah. Wow, that's been okay. Here we go. Yes. By Ayn Rand made go Wow. A long time since we've had that played. Colin Fannin Matawan, MI 201. Thank you Associate Executive Producer. First donation I'll give him a deduce.

Adam Curry (150:47)

You've been de douched.

John C. Dvorak (150:50)

I have lots to say, but I'll hold back for the good of all. No you didn't.

Adam Curry (150:55)

No you didn't.

John C. Dvorak (150:56)

First heard Adam on Megyn Kelly, who I no longer listen to. Then on Glenn Beck, who I now rarely listen to. I'm like the black plague of podcasts.

Adam Curry (151:04)

You're like the kiss of death.

John C. Dvorak (151:06)

And lastly on Joe Rogan, who I still occasionally listen to, but I now always listen to the best podcasts in the universe. Here's the first of what will hopefully be many more donations. I quit my corporate gimmicky personal training job to start my own personal training business. Oh, this is a good idea. An entrepreneur. I specialize in strength training and sport performance, but also have vast experience with weight loss, general physical preparedness, pre and post mental health, menopausal women. What?

Adam Curry (151:34)

I just cleared my throat.

John C. Dvorak (151:35)

And health aging for seniors. So for any listeners looking to be unburdened by what has been with this unburdened by what has been that nice common reference with a safe and effective fitness and nutrition plan, visit Noagenda Fit. Ah, another entrepreneur in our stable. John Noagenda Fit. I love this. I work with people online or in person in the Kalamazoo, Michigan area. If you want to save your treasure, I do a whole lot of barter. I've received meat, firearms, home cleaning, roof work, and electrical services in exchange for my talent. And of course, I'll offer free fitness coaching for John and Adam. Boom. I'm in. I am in. I need to get rid of my gut and Tina's been on my ass.

Adam Curry (152:16)

You got a gut? When she get a gut.

John C. Dvorak (152:18)

Well, it started when Dutch people started sending me Dutch licorice.

Adam Curry (152:23)

Oh, the Dutch licorice.

John C. Dvorak (152:24)

Yeah. It really started when I stopped smoking. To me, be honest, that was to be expected. I'll take you up on that column. But for any not in person though, sit ups, I'm sure it's. I want to devote like three minutes a day. Three minutes a day. I can swing. So can you get rid of my gut. I'll promote you forever. For anyone willing to invest their treasure to improve their health, use promo code FAUCI.

Adam Curry (152:53)

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John C. Dvorak (152:54)

For 10% off. Or email me at infinite info@fannon fitness.com f a n n o n fitness.com to learn more about my services. All right. Wonderful, Colin. I look forward to losing my gut with you, my friend.

Adam Curry (153:09)

Now, as we go from plug to plug, we come to Linda Lupatkin in Castle Rock, Colorado, who comes with the $200 and says jobs Karma. For a competitive edge with a resume that gets Results, go to ImageMakers Inc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs. That's Imagemakers Inc. With a K. And work with Linda Lou, the duchess of jobs and writer of winning resumes.

Various Interviewees/Clips (153:33)

Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.

Adam Curry (153:39)

You've got karma.

John C. Dvorak (153:41)

You know, I really love these people, these entrepreneurs with their products when they donate to the show because it's so much fun. You know, it's not like, oh, I'm going to buy an ad from you. You do a host rent red ad, and then we have to stick to some copy and it's all stodgy and it's dumb and not as he tends to be. And now people make fun of each other, offering good deals, you know, supporting the show. The whole thing is great. Christopher Myers did none of that. He's in Dallas, Texas, sent us 200 and forgot to send the note. So instead we'll just give you a double up. Karma.

Various Interviewees/Clips (154:19)

You've got karma.

Adam Curry (154:23)

And last on the list is Sir Ron Nuran in Ultrecht.

John C. Dvorak (154:29)

There's no L in Utrecht.

Adam Curry (154:33)

Oh, yeah, there's not Utrecht, Holland. 200 bucks. Dear John and Adam, responding to the bat signal in the newsletter. Hope this saves the the show.

John C. Dvorak (154:48)

It did. It did.

Adam Curry (154:50)

All the best. Sir Ron Nurin from He's in Portugal. He's in Ancherts.

John C. Dvorak (154:58)

Anseris. I think it's Anseris.

Adam Curry (155:02)

Answer is Portugal.

John C. Dvorak (155:04)

Yes. Well, good.

Adam Curry (155:05)

I would say place to be.

John C. Dvorak (155:07)

Ron Noren would be the correct pronunciation. Nailed it. And that concludes our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1832. We thank everybody $50 and above. And this segment is for people who are fortunate enough to be able to send us $200 and receive an associate executive producer credit in return. And we'll read your note, $300 and above. You become an executive producer and your note will also be read. And of course, these credits are real because we're real pronunciators. We're broke broadcasters and we can hand out these credits and they're a beauty, beautiful thing to behold because you can use them in your email signature. If anyone still does that. Most people just have sent from my iPhone. Do people not know what an email signature signature is anymore? Do they not see that and say, why am I promoting sent from my iPhone? Well, you can put all kinds of groovy stuff in your sig.

Adam Curry (156:08)

Yeah, you can take that off, of course.

John C. Dvorak (156:10)

But no one. One does it.

Adam Curry (156:11)

I do.

John C. Dvorak (156:12)

You don't have an iPhone.

Adam Curry (156:14)

From my Bakelite phone.

John C. Dvorak (156:15)

Thank you very much to these executive and associate executive producers for episode 1832.

Adam Curry (156:20)

Our formula is this.

John C. Dvorak (156:22)

We go out, we hit people in the mouth.

Various Interviewees/Clips (156:33)

Shut up.

John C. Dvorak (156:37)

You do. You do send it from your Bakelite.

Adam Curry (156:41)

My Bakelite phone. One letter at a time. So I do have a funny clip kind of.

John C. Dvorak (156:46)

That's good. We love funny clips.

Adam Curry (156:47)

Well, we have Johnny. Johnny from the water show. And I'm back.

John C. Dvorak (156:52)

Johnny's back.

Adam Curry (156:53)

He's back a lot. I just don't get a lot of his stuff because it's not that. I mean, it's always okay. And this is probably the best reasonable one. And it's always better when he goes to the beach.

John C. Dvorak (157:06)

What beach?

Adam Curry (157:07)

He would see. He went to Fort Myers.

John C. Dvorak (157:08)

Oh, okay.

Adam Curry (157:09)

They're flying from New York. Hey, you want to go to Fort Myers and do your segment? Oh, I think so.

John C. Dvorak (157:14)

That's a big budget show right there.

Adam Curry (157:17)

It is. Well, so they fly him to Fort Myers. And again, the beach people that live on the basically live their lives on the beach are dingbats. And so we get to. We get to hear this segment, which it's. This takes a lot of editing, believe me, to get some of this stuff out of here. But this is, I think, the crux.

John C. Dvorak (157:37)

Happy New Year.

Various Interviewees/Clips (157:39)

Happy New Year. Happy New Year.

John C. Dvorak (157:42)

Happy New Year. How'd you ring in the new Year?

Various Interviewees/Clips (157:45)

Got fed some shots by the bartender, Stayed out till about 3am and got very drunk.

Adam Curry (157:50)

I gave a cow a beer. That's about it.

Various Interviewees/Clips (157:52)

We rung it in kind of by the toilet. I blacked out at a party and my friend had to carry me home and I lost my shit.

John C. Dvorak (158:00)

Who was your New Year's kiss?

Various Interviewees/Clips (158:01)

My last call of the night, just the toilet. Ended up going home with a random guy.

Adam Curry (158:08)

What was the random guy's name?

Various Interviewees/Clips (158:09)

Don't know, don't remember.

John C. Dvorak (158:10)

What was your biggest mistake in 2025?

Various Interviewees/Clips (158:13)

Partying more than I should have. My ex boyfriend.

John C. Dvorak (158:16)

Honestly, it's just a piece Broke my foot. That was a pretty big mistake.

Various Interviewees/Clips (158:19)

Dating a man that I did not like.

John C. Dvorak (158:22)

You predict is gonna happen in your life this year? 2026.

Various Interviewees/Clips (158:26)

I'm gonna climb Mount Everest, get famous and rich. I go to Minnesota.

John C. Dvorak (158:30)

What's gonna happen with your governor Tim Wall?

Adam Curry (158:31)

I don't know your governor Tim Walls. Oh.

John C. Dvorak (158:34)

Why do you know that? He was Kamala's running mate.

Adam Curry (158:36)

Oh, okay.

John C. Dvorak (158:38)

I know that we call him Tampon.

Various Interviewees/Clips (158:40)

Really?

John C. Dvorak (158:40)

I kind of like that.

Adam Curry (158:41)

I'm gonna commit tax fraud. Good luck. Because you're saying that on camera. Can't catch me. What's your name?

John C. Dvorak (158:46)

I'm Nick.

Adam Curry (158:47)

Where do you live? Kansas. Oh, wait.

John C. Dvorak (158:49)

Shoot.

Adam Curry (158:50)

I shouldn't have said that.

John C. Dvorak (158:50)

2025 was Donald Trump a big return to the White House? How do you do?

Various Interviewees/Clips (158:54)

Our economy is on the uphill climb. Gas is cheaper. Groceries are cheaper.

Adam Curry (158:58)

I do a little bit of stock, so that's done.

John C. Dvorak (159:00)

Well, best president ever. What should Donald Trump's New Year's resolution be?

Various Interviewees/Clips (159:04)

World peace. Let's just be peaceful.

John C. Dvorak (159:06)

How did Trump capture Maduro?

Various Interviewees/Clips (159:08)

I don't know what that is.

John C. Dvorak (159:10)

Maduro.

Various Interviewees/Clips (159:11)

Is that a place?

Adam Curry (159:13)

Is that a location?

John C. Dvorak (159:17)

I don't even know where Maduro is.

Various Interviewees/Clips (159:19)

I don't know what Maduro is.

John C. Dvorak (159:20)

He was the leader of Venezuela.

Various Interviewees/Clips (159:22)

Okay, where is Venezuela? I don't know.

John C. Dvorak (159:25)

Is it north or south of Florida?

Various Interviewees/Clips (159:26)

I mean. I mean, the world's circular, so it's both.

John C. Dvorak (159:31)

Oh, my God. Okay, first observation. Why are these people complaining about not being able to afford a house? It sounds like they're having a good life. Sounds gross.

Adam Curry (159:41)

You know what the. This is like, nobody. This is the. I always like to bring these in once in a while just to remind people that this is the level of.

John C. Dvorak (159:49)

Of.

Adam Curry (159:50)

Of knowledge about current events. Nobody knows who Maduro is. They don't know where Venezuela is. And, you know, and we get all worked up about a lot of this stuff. And, you know, women go out and try to run over d. ICE agents and get shot and, you know, get. Get over yourself.

John C. Dvorak (160:08)

Well, it's interesting because I have two clips, and I'm not fishing in your pond. They. I did get them off TikTok. I got them off TikTok. And the first one, you've seen this type of TikTok teacher, but this is the lead into the second TikTok teacher, and it explains a lot about your clip.

Various Interviewees/Clips (160:29)

Things that do not exist inside high schools anymore that I think might shock some people. None of these things shocked me. But then on the Internet, I realized I was like, oh, people don't know this. Okay, so now I have to share with. There are no textbook. I did not know that.

Adam Curry (160:40)

People did not know this.

Various Interviewees/Clips (160:41)

Yeah, no, they don't. I've never, I have never seen a textbook. This is my third year teaching high school. I've never seen one for a singular class. And what we're starting to see in education is everyone's like, I think we need to go back. We need textbooks. Like, I love when I find a PDF that's from a textbook. I found the Most Dangerous Game. I was printing that out for my ninth graders last year and I found a textbook version with, like questions on the side. And I was like, oh my God, jackpot. Need that. Like, I, I miss textbooks. But, like, I remember having that in middle school. I remember having that in high school for a little bit. I graduated in 2019, mind you. I think that a lot of these things don't shock me because while I was in high school, that was kind of like when we were transitioning away, away from all these things that are now completely missing in high schools. The third thing, there are not computer labs. There's not a singular computer lab in this school, mind you. This is a brand new school. Those aren't necessary. Like, all of our kids are one to one.

Adam Curry (161:29)

They all have their own Chromebook.

Various Interviewees/Clips (161:30)

We don't need a computer lab. Like, I remember being so excited to go to the computer lab, especially elementary school. Like those computer lab days. Oh my God.

John C. Dvorak (161:36)

Golden. Okay, I didn't actually know this. I guess if I thought about it. Yeah, I know about Chromebooks and schools. I didn't realize that there's absolutely no textbooks at all. And from the sound of this teacher, who, by the way, teacher, you should be able to speak for at least a minute without having to pause after every sentence to restart. Restart the recording. I mean, that says a lot about you, I'm sorry to say. Were you aware that there's absolutely no textbooks in school anymore? I mean, I know I'm a boomer.

Adam Curry (162:10)

I find that hard to believe.

John C. Dvorak (162:12)

Well, it turns out it's true. Just asking around, even here.

Adam Curry (162:18)

I know in colleges there's plenty of textbooks because the professors make you buy their book.

John C. Dvorak (162:23)

Yes, yes, this is true. So in middle school, high school, it seems that there's maybe a generality, but for sure, I know that Google spent an exorbitant amount of money and we followed all this. It started with Common Core and the whole ushering it. Apple used to have kind of the market for schools. They had a whole K through 12 program and they would fund the computer labs and they put Macs in there and people could learn how to use a computer. No, that apparently has just gone by the wayside. And I'm sure people will say we have textbooks in our school, but it doesn't sound like a lot of schools have them anymore. And I found this TikTok teacher who he says that what you're seeing on the Jesse Waters show, the complete lack of knowledge of anything other than I got blackout drunk and I dated a guy I hated is because of the Chromebooks. I have been teaching for 25 years. I've watched education change, evolve, reinvent itself. And on more occasions than I'd like to admit, education has chased shiny nonsense. And from experiencing all of that, I'm going to say this as clearly as I possibly can. Chromebooks are killing education. And this is not coming from some technophobic teacher clutching a chalkboard board. I teach K through 8 computer science. I believe in technology. I have taught kids to code, debug.

Adam Curry (163:53)

Use Google Docs, Google Slides, Google classroom.

John C. Dvorak (163:56)

Google problem solve and create. I remember when computers were a privilege, not a pacifier. And I feel like that is really the difference right now. Chromebooks were supposed to be tools. Instead they have become crutches and babysitters. Digital worksheets with better branding. We have handed kids screens before they could even hold a pencil properly and we act shocked that attention spans have evaporated and frustration tolerance has hit zero. I have watched students who can swipe, tap and close pop ups with Olympic level speed but can't write a paragraph to save their life or follow multi step directions or sit with a problem without instantly asking is there a video for this paper? Slows the brain down in a good way. Pencils create the friction that thinking needs. Books require patience, standing, stamina and imagination. Screens train kids to expect instant answers, dopamine hits and endless stimulation. And then we wonder why school feels boring and hard. And don't even get me started on kindergarteners with Chromebooks. Five year olds do not need personal laptops. They need scissors and crayons and blocks and conversations and play. A whole lot of it. Developmentally, screens are skipping steps and those skip steps are now showing up as behavior problems, anxiety and and academic gaps later. And here's the irony, because there is always irony. We killed the computer lab in the name of one to one devices and in doing so we killed actual computer skills. Kids do not know how to type properly. They don't understand file systems, they don't Know how computers fundamentally work. They just know how to click next or scroll up.

Adam Curry (165:22)

Let's bring back the computer lab.

John C. Dvorak (165:24)

Make technology intentional again. Teach kids when to use tech, not just how. Chromebook should be a tool used sometimes with purpose, not the default for everything. Education does not need more screens. It needs more thinking, more writing, more reading, more hands on learning and more human interaction. I have seen what school looked like before this experiment and I'm watching the fallout now. This isn't nostalgia speaking here. This is 25 years of teaching experience. It is beyond time to course correct. Especially before we raise a whole generation fluent in apps, but illiterate and focus. Man, I thought that was good.

Adam Curry (165:59)

I was good. I give it credit for digging it up on taking my spot on the TikTok report. I think his point, the point that I got out of it, which I didn't think about, was the getting rid of computer labs. Because when they had computer labs they would actually teach you how to use a computer, how they worked, how the processor integrated with the memory systems, files. So you knew to how a file system worked, how a desktop worked and how. The fact is, is that there's memory that that's. That's permanent and there's memory that's temporary and all that, all that stuff works together and that now they don't teach anything. People don't have a clue. Okay. It's in the cloud, whatever that is. I don't know. I just scroll and there's another picture to watch.

John C. Dvorak (166:42)

I still think it would be a great idea to get. Kids, get your Chromebook. Here's a thumb drive. Now install Linux. Linux on it. I think you can do that. I think you can install.

Adam Curry (166:52)

I don't think so. I mean a Chromebook runs on a version of Linux. Linux anyway.

John C. Dvorak (167:00)

But you want to. I mean, let me see. Can I install.

Adam Curry (167:04)

There you go. Ask the AI Linux Chromebook.

John C. Dvorak (167:08)

I'm actually asking Kaji. Kaji man. Kaji. Yes. Set up Linux on your Chromebook. Google actually has a help document document for it. How about that?

Adam Curry (167:18)

Okay, so they hook it up and install that.

John C. Dvorak (167:21)

Well, because you get a real idea of how it works.

Adam Curry (167:24)

Yes.

John C. Dvorak (167:25)

Yeah.

Adam Curry (167:25)

I mean get rid of Chromebooks and begin to use a real computer.

John C. Dvorak (167:30)

Okay. Install Omarchi. Omarchi. That's the hot new Linux operating system. Omarchi. Oh, oh yeah. Have you heard of it? Omarchi?

Adam Curry (167:39)

No, I have not heard of it. I should have.

John C. Dvorak (167:41)

Oh, there's the.

Adam Curry (167:43)

Why. Why is it so good?

John C. Dvorak (167:44)

Well, software developers in particular are installing it on their MacBooks. It's Omarchy. I think Omarchi because it redefines the whole idea of the user interface and it's all with very simple keyboard commands using mainly the super key or the command key or whatever it is on your keyboard. And all that irritating stuff about how Windows are always getting in the way and you have to move the window over here and this, there's no menu bars. The whole thing just works exactly how you, how your brain thinks. I'll send you a video.

Adam Curry (168:25)

Send me a video.

John C. Dvorak (168:26)

I'll send you a video so you can learn about Amarchi. And it's built on Arch Linux. It's really, it's really phenomenal. And funny enough, believe it or not, some people I've been talking to, they have figured out a way. I can't wait for this. I just don't have the time to make the roadcaster work with it. And I've been wanting to get off of this Windows machine for the show for the longest time, decade at least. But I need time. I mean, the show takes up all my time. People like, this is a great podcast. It has everything, has millions of clips. Listen to it. Time codes are useful people. So yeah, I found that to be very eye opening. What? That's horrible.

Adam Curry (169:20)

Yeah, yeah, I know.

John C. Dvorak (169:21)

Five year olds need scissors.

Adam Curry (169:24)

They do.

John C. Dvorak (169:25)

They need to run with them.

Adam Curry (169:26)

With blunt, not pointed.

John C. Dvorak (169:28)

Run with them. They need crayons to write on the wall. Yeah, this is good stuff. Exactly. Exactly what they need.

Adam Curry (169:34)

Here's another kind of a screwball report that just came out and I thought it didn't get a lot play in the mainstream, but I think it's kind of important. This is the visa bonds. Have you heard about this?

John C. Dvorak (169:43)

Visa bonds?

Adam Curry (169:45)

Yeah. You haven't heard about this?

John C. Dvorak (169:46)

No. Travelers from several countries will now need to pay up to a $15,000 bond to enter the US it's meant to deter them from overstaying their visa when they're here for tourism or business. The State Department has just added 25 more countries to this list, including Venezuela, Cuba, Nepal, Nigeria and others. That brings the total to 38 countries. Officials say that these are countries with high rates of visa overstays, insufficient screening and vetting, and those that don't require proof of residency to obtain citizenship. So travelers from those countries are going to need to pay the US treasury anywhere between 5,000 to $15,000. The amount will be determined during their visa interview and that money will be returned to the traveler if they don't overstay their visa. This comes as federal authorities are cracking down on illegal immigrants, including those that came in legally but then overstayed their visa. Great idea. Long overdue. Big fan. Great. Now, of course, no one has 15 grand, but then you, you get a financing guy in the middle. So you'll pay, you know, like a hundred bucks. And you have a bondsman.

Adam Curry (170:57)

It's like a bondsman.

John C. Dvorak (170:58)

Like a bail bond.

Adam Curry (170:59)

Bail bondsman, exactly. You probably will have to pay 10%, 150 bucks for the 15,000.

John C. Dvorak (171:07)

It's a great idea that we should. I remember we were. Tina and I were in New York. This is going back a while. I can't remember when. This must be eight, nine years ago. And we were talking to this waiter or a server in an Irish pub, I think, and he was Irish, which was kind of fun. And we're talking and chatting. So when did you get here? So I got here about eight. Eight months ago. Oh, this is. Yeah, I'm working here illegally. Don't, don't, don't rat me out. I'm like, well, this is the problem. This is a problem. You know, you can't overstay your tourist visa for this. You know, do it properly, like. Yeah, people like that. You know, as much as I like the guy, but he has every opportunity to do it legally. You know, get yourself a trump platinum card, you got a million, million bucks. Bucks, no problem. No, I think this is a good idea. Now, it's not going to be from the eu, but it'll be from some other countries.

Adam Curry (172:07)

Yeah, well, I looked at the list. It's mostly Africa and pieces of Asia, some South America.

John C. Dvorak (172:14)

Yeah. What's the latest on the H1B visas and all that nonsense?

Adam Curry (172:19)

There's no news.

John C. Dvorak (172:22)

Because I read some somewhere there was like, there's all kinds of scams people are uncovering. There's like human body mills, essentially.

Adam Curry (172:32)

Oh, yeah, There has to be.

John C. Dvorak (172:33)

Where, you know, they just, you know, here, here's, you know, and by the way, they all look the same. Yeah, this, this is your picture. Now you're. Now this guy. Now you got this H1B visa. Shut up and get back in your cot. No, it's. It's a mess. We got a lot of problems. We got a lot, you know, we of got a lot, lot of problems, but we're still the best country in the world. I can say that, hands down, having lived in a couple of them. What do you think?

Adam Curry (172:59)

Yeah, I think so. I want to finish off this segment with a little sports talk.

John C. Dvorak (173:06)

Okay.

Adam Curry (173:07)

You have any clips left?

John C. Dvorak (173:09)

Yeah, I got tons, but it's okay. We're running out of time here.

Adam Curry (173:13)

So is this place. So for people who like to bet on the street, super bowl, we're getting to the end. So I found an interesting coincidental index which indicates the Seahawks should be in the super bowl whether they win or not. It's another question. And here's the reason.

John C. Dvorak (173:33)

In 2005, there was a new pope, Pope Benedict. That year, Seattle went to the Super Bowl. In 2013, again, a new pope, Pope Francis. That year, Seattle won the Super Bowl. Hello, Leo. I'm just saying. Hello, Leo. This could happen again. All right. It's the papist prop bet. I like it.

Adam Curry (173:53)

Yeah, Papist prop bet you like the alliteration? I do.

John C. Dvorak (173:58)

I'm going to show my support by donating to no Agenda.

Adam Curry (174:01)

Imagine all the people who could do that.

John C. Dvorak (174:03)

Oh, yeah, that'd be fabulous.

Adam Curry (174:12)

And we do have a few more people to thank that gave us $50 and above. And Adam will go through the list starting right now.

John C. Dvorak (174:19)

Well, yes, I will. And of course, you heard us earlier thanking the executive and associate executive producers. We love them, but we love everybody who supports us with value for value. And we start with the 15 above at 142. Edward Strauss from Louis, Louisville, Kentucky. Thank you very much. Dame Rita Sparks, NV, 123.45. And she's always there and we appreciate that. Dame Rita, are you a duchess by now? You've been supporting us for a long time. She does say you're the best. Nicole Stone from Rapid City, South Dakota. I'll read this. She says, my husband. This is $105. My husband, sir Rory Stone, introduced me to your show. I'm making my first donation as my friend Eric east celebrates his 39th year around the sun today. He's a longtime listener who doesn't donate enough. I donated 105 as that's how many seats make up the South Dakota state legislature that kicks off next week. I recently started a political action committee called Better Together. People over party. Some of my most favorite moments with Eric are talking politics. Well, there you go. She's in pursuit of damehood and I'm gonna.

Adam Curry (175:27)

You've been deep douched.

John C. Dvorak (175:29)

Jerome Barthel is in Leland, North Carolina. $100. There he is, our Archduke of Luna, lover of America and boobs. Kevin McLaughlin with 8008. It is his boob donation. We thank you very much. Juraj Kojak from Prague, Czechoslovakia. I think we had Giraj recently, didn't we? Seems to be coming more, more frequently. He says itm Also a birthday shout out to my son, David Kojak, who will be 7i January 7th. You got it. David Cox, Austin, Texas. 63. 25. Teresa Andrews in Camarillo, California. 6161. John Hoiber, parts unknown. 6114. Sander Sonder, with the small boobs. 6006. Grayson Insurance, Aurora, Colorado. 606. Small boobs as well. Darrell Crillo in Rochester, Michigan. 57. Andrew Garland, Muncie, Indiana. 56. 22. Michael Formanec, Formanec in Maple Grove, Minnesota. This is a birthday donation. I don't know. Is he on the list? Yeah, I presume he is. 8:1, 1970. Hold on, let me just check. I want to make sure he's on the list. Michael. Don't want to miss anybody. Yeah, see, I knew it. I knew he was missed. Okay, Michael Formanek. We got to get these birthday things right, people. All right. Troy. Troy Funderburg. We love that name. Missoula, Montana. 55. Chris Perry, 53. 77. That's a birthday for Sir Salvarin Selvarin. Brittany Miller, Trinidad, Colorado. 52. 72. Josiah Thomas Ankeny, Iowa. 51. Nola Ranallo in Tonawanda, New York. 50. 33. And we wind it up with the 50. Sir Alex Zavala, Kyle, Texas. Jacob Rotramol Indicator, Illinois. Edward Muzarek in Memphis, Tennessee, Tennessee. Stephen Ray, Spokane, Washington. Mary Schwartzer in Dublin, Virginia. Catherine Morton in Charlotte, North Carolina. Tiffany Kilgore from Los Angeles has a birthday shout out to Lil Bro P. He loves you guys. Thank you for all you do. Don't say who it was from. Oops, sorry about that. Big hugs. Harry Clan, Alito, Texas. Carrie Jackson, Watertown, Tennessee and we winded up with Richard Lindquist from Sequim, Washington. And we thank all of these donors, $50 and above. Thank you to all those who came under $50. Of course, we don't mention those for reasons of anonymity, which is sometimes well founded. Although the spooks usually are much higher up in the. In the list.

Adam Curry (178:00)

Yes. They don't give us 50.

John C. Dvorak (178:02)

No, no, they did. They. They do much better than that. You can go to noagendadonations.com support the show anytime you want. It's very simple. Whatever amount you feel the show has delivered in value to you, send it back to us. That's how it works. And it is a way. It is the only way to make a podcast fair, balanced, honest and give it longevity. Noagendadonations.com any amounts, any frequency. You can set up a recurring donation if you want. Noagendadonations.com. So here are those birthdays. Clint Young, his late father Clark Young. He would have turned 83 on the 7th, so we say happy birthday to him. Very nice note there, Clint. Girash Kodjak wishes his son David a happy one. He turned seven on the seventh yesterday. Craig Kohler aka Sir 8bit Ben Baron of the Retro Realms turns 5054 today. Chris Campbell wishes Sir Scott the Jew a happy birthday. Sir Scott The Jew turns 43 today. Nicole Stone, her husband Sir Rory Stone turns 39 today. Tiffany Kilgore wishes her Lil Bro P a happy birthday. Chris Perry says Happy birthday to Sir Selverin and we wind up the list with Michael Forman. Happy Birthday. It's his birthday today. Congratulations on behalf of everybody here at the Best Podcast in the Universe. And we do have an important title change today. Sir Danimal now upgrades on the peerage ladder, the no Agenda Piers that is. And he becomes Sir Danimal Baron of the Secret City. And we congratulate him on moving up the ladder. We do have one knight to congratulate today, so bring out your your sword.

Adam Curry (179:52)

There's one.

John C. Dvorak (179:54)

This a beauty. Clint yeah. Thank you very much for your support. The Best Podcast in the Universe. Thanks to your total support of $1,000 or more, we are very proud to pronounce the Kate B. As a knight of the no Agenda Roundtable, you shall henceforth be known as Sir Clintilius of the Pacific Northwest. Besides the requisite hookers and blow rent boys and chardonnay, we also have smoked brisket and zip fizz by request for you. If that doesn't do it, you can always join the dames and the knights in our bong hits and bourbons, sparkling cider and escorts, ginger ale and gerbils, vodka and vanilla, geishas and sake, breast milk and pablum. And obviously there's always the mutton and the mead. It's quite the staple here at the no Agenda show. Go to noagendarings.com our brand new night and let us know what ring size you bear and send that to us along with the proper address to send your beautiful night ring. It is a signet ring, so with that you get some wax. You can use that to seal your important core correspondence as well as a certificate of authenticity. And thank you very much for supporting the no Agenda show, known as the best podcast in the universe. No Agenda Meetups. Well, the meetups are kicking off once again for the new year. We Have a nice list which you can find@noagendameetups.com these are gatherings that are not sponsored by the show. You don't need our permission to do it. You just say, hey, I'm going to organize it. You list it on no agenda meeting meetups.com we'll mention it on the show. And we always love it when you give us a report. Let us know how everything went down. Fort Wayne Club 33. I think it's the third time they tried to send me their meetup report from just after Christmas. So I'll play it here for you. Adam and John, this is Shannon reporting in from Fort Wayne having a good time. We'll see you at the next one.

Various Interviewees/Clips (181:40)

Hi, it's Shelley in Fort Wayne. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

Adam Curry (181:43)

Hey. This is Jer from Kool Hacks with a K. Support me please. This is Michelle from Fort Wayne.

John C. Dvorak (181:49)

Happy New Year, sir. Fat dad to the BMXicans all the way from Arkansas, hanging out in Fort Wayne ITM. And this is Michael from Fort Wayne.

Various Interviewees/Clips (181:57)

Happy New Year.

John C. Dvorak (181:58)

And John, I don't know if this is a tip or not, but I've heard according to AI that the six sided yellow stop sign was invented in Nawbone, Indiana.

Adam Curry (182:06)

In the morning. In the morning.

John C. Dvorak (182:08)

Wow. Very lackluster in the morning there. And of course nothing from your server. Come on people, step it up a little bit. There is a meetup taking place today. It is the New Year, New Scam Northwest Meetup kicks off at 6 o' clock at Saints and Scholars in Raleigh, North Carolina. On Saturday, the Quality Learning Leering meetup. I'm sorry, the Quality Leering meetup at Moe's Irish Pub. It'll be at 4:00' clock in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. And on Saturday as well, the Treasure Valley Boise meetup 3 o' clock at Old State Tavern in Eagle, Idaho. On the way in January, Charlotte, North Carolina Fort Wayne, Indiana, Bergendaal, the Netherlands, Sao Paulo, Brazil. We need meetup reports from all of you. Indianapolis, Indiana, Alpharetta, Georgia, Oak, California and many more on the calendar for 2026. Go to no AgendaMeetups.com see if there's one near you. You will love it. You will get connection that always brings protection. These people will be your first responders in an emergency. If you can't find one near you, it's real simple. Start one yourself listed@noagendameetups.com always a. The nights and days.

Adam Curry (183:22)

You want to.

John C. Dvorak (183:22)

Be where you won't be triggered.

Various Interviewees/Clips (183:25)

Or hell.

Adam Curry (183:32)

It's like A party?

John C. Dvorak (183:35)

Yeah, baby. It's always like a party. And of course, at this point in the show, as we wind it down, it doesn't mean that there's any reason to leave because we have tons of show left for you, including. Including John's tip of the day. We have our end of show mixes and we always like to check out some possible end of show isos. I don't know why we do it. It's just fun. It's kind of man versus the machine these days with John's AI. And I am over clipped for the ISO. So I'll just play him and you listen. Here we go. Number one. We nailed it again. It's always a class classic from Alex. There's this one. Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. That was great. Come on.

Adam Curry (184:19)

I like that one.

John C. Dvorak (184:19)

Yeah, you should. It was fantastic. Love this show. This one. I'm getting tingles. That is so cool. Tingles, tingles. And then this one. Damn.

Adam Curry (184:33)

Love the pod. Well, how can you not reject that one?

John C. Dvorak (184:38)

It is rejected, but I gotta play it anyway.

Adam Curry (184:42)

Okay, well I. Then I relent and I'll give you.

John C. Dvorak (184:44)

The wowie wow, wow, wow, wowie, wow, wow, wow. Thank you very much. But we're not going anywhere. First, it's time for John's tip of the day.

Adam Curry (184:59)

And sometimes Adam. All right. Well, we've been trying to keep things low priced. I don't like to bring in. You know, we had people complained about us really recommending a tv. Tv.

John C. Dvorak (185:13)

I told you that wasn't a good idea.

Adam Curry (185:15)

It didn't feel it was a good idea. For people who need to know if.

John C. Dvorak (185:18)

People needed a tv. It was a great idea. Yes. Yeah.

Adam Curry (185:21)

Well, I got another expensive item here.

John C. Dvorak (185:24)

Oh, okay.

Adam Curry (185:25)

$299.

John C. Dvorak (185:27)

Well, that's up there.

Adam Curry (185:29)

Now I recommend if people haven't moved to these, these high density hard disks. I'd say start now because this is doesn't even. This is not even a bare drive. This is in one of the enclosures. This is a 22 terabyte Seagate drive.

John C. Dvorak (185:48)

Holy moly. I need this.

Adam Curry (185:50)

Yes, you do. 299 bucks. These high density Seagate drives have been out for about three or four years.

John C. Dvorak (185:58)

What does high density mean?

Adam Curry (186:00)

That means it's got more than 1220 terabytes.

John C. Dvorak (186:02)

Oh, okay. I said thought it was something special. I didn't understand.

Adam Curry (186:06)

Well, it is special. I mean, because 299 bucks is what you used to pay for. I remember when I was a kid, I got comdex.

John C. Dvorak (186:13)

Yep.

Adam Curry (186:13)

And I forgot what hard disk Company, one of the Hard Mac store or Prairie Tech or one of these guys that is long since out of business. This was way back. And this is when the nine terabyte drive first showed up. I'm sorry, let me back up the nine gigabyte drive.

John C. Dvorak (186:31)

Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. 1987, I bought, I think it was a Seagate external SCSI connected drive for my Mac plus it was $299 for 20 megabytes.

Adam Curry (186:52)

So this guy says. That sounds right.

John C. Dvorak (186:55)

Yeah.

Adam Curry (186:55)

So this guy says. Says to me it was nine gigabytes. Just. They all started coming out, these nine gigabyte drives and there was about, about 299. And it was like the guy, one of the companies out of business says to me, I don't know what these guys are thinking. Who is going to trust nine gigabytes on one spindle? That's the exact.

John C. Dvorak (187:21)

Yeah, well, you get the heads touching that disk, you're screwed.

Adam Curry (187:25)

So you got your nine gigabytes. It's too risky. So now we have 22 terabytes.

John C. Dvorak (187:33)

Now do you have one of these?

Adam Curry (187:35)

No, I have an 18. But I'm getting one of these now because I looked at over. I looked at all the reviews and everything. This is the thing is that when they had the 18s, which were nice, they were bare drive. So you had to buy one of the enclosures or you had to put it in the machine.

John C. Dvorak (187:51)

No, you don't want that. That's painful.

Adam Curry (187:52)

Well, you do if you have the enclosures. The enclosures are okay?

John C. Dvorak (187:55)

Yeah.

Adam Curry (187:55)

And they.

John C. Dvorak (187:56)

How big is this thing? How big is it?

Adam Curry (187:58)

It's a three and a half, 3.5-inch drive. It's small. Is it, Is it.

John C. Dvorak (188:02)

Does it have. It has a case around it has a case.

Adam Curry (188:05)

Yeah. It's just with the connector. You just put in a USB 3.0 connector on it and you're ready to go. It's, it's. It's a beauty. And 299, 22 terabytes. Two. Don't fool around. Let's start here and we'll go from there. I highly recommend it. The Seagate High I. High capacity. I shouldn't use high density because it's confusing. The high capacity Seagate drives are dynamite.

John C. Dvorak (188:31)

Well, you kind of had me at high density. Now you're like pulling back. It was high capacity. That's not the same thing.

Adam Curry (188:37)

It is to me.

John C. Dvorak (188:38)

There it is, ladies and gentlemen. Find all of them@noagendafund.com and tip of the day to net.

Adam Curry (188:49)

And sometimes Adam created by Dana Berdetti.

John C. Dvorak (188:54)

Wow, these tips are off the hook, man.

Adam Curry (188:58)

And by the way, I did get to joke about Gnaw Bone.

John C. Dvorak (189:01)

Yep. Yeah, that was good.

Adam Curry (189:02)

And also I should mention Ferris State won the Division 2 football championship. Would be great to have have a sweatshirt from hoodie or sweatshirt So I can go for a sweatshirt now and again. And I do have the our Baron of Bozeman is going to send me a hoodie for Montana State so that's a plus so I don't have to dress myself anymore.

John C. Dvorak (189:23)

Hey, if you stick around tono agenda stream.com we have random thoughts coming up. Sir Darren O' Neill on the show. That should be fun. And end of show, Mickey Mix is from mvp Plur and D's laughs so it's a mix of slop and knots, which is always good to see. And please remember that we are the best podcast in the universe. We are not captured by the audience and we need your support by going to noagendadonations.com and we will return at our regularly scheduled time on Sunday for the best three hours plus of media deconstruction. They don't do anything unless it's a novel. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas hill Country, Fredericksburg, Texas in the morning everybody.

Adam Curry (190:06)

I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where I remain as I'm John C. Dvorak.

John C. Dvorak (190:11)

We'll see you on Sunday. Remember us at no Agenda donations dot com. Till then, adios mo fos a hooey, hooey and such Inside the halls where the laws get made A perfect hand.

Adam Curry (190:21)

Is deathly played While the tickers tape.

John C. Dvorak (190:24)

And the market swing Nancy's body low on the next big thing from tech.

Various Interviewees/Clips (190:29)

Giant speaks to the valley floor Pelosi's.

John C. Dvorak (190:32)

Portfolio grows a little more A sharp eyed scout in a blazer blue. As technologies advance, so do our adversaries. But here at the War Department, we.

Adam Curry (190:51)

Are not sitting idly by.

John C. Dvorak (190:55)

Nice. Unlock new possibilities across your daily workflows. The best case scenario is that AI.

Adam Curry (191:02)

Diffuses into everything that we do. If anyone builds it, everyone dies.

John C. Dvorak (191:09)

Wow. Format content as technologies advance, so do our adversaries. Ooh, nice. It crashed as soon as everyone noticed the icon Grock5 9 chat GPT 2.00 what else can I do for you today?

Adam Curry (191:25)

It's hard to predict the plays.

John C. Dvorak (191:29)

Oh, it's all better. And ants under a skyscraper crushed by the AIs. The opposite of entropy. Smarter AIs.

Adam Curry (191:40)

It's a violation of the laws of physics. The Entropy is what has happens all the time.

John C. Dvorak (191:44)

Yes.

Various Interviewees/Clips (191:45)

Stay kind of dumb. Okay?

John C. Dvorak (191:47)

The opposite of entropy. Meanwhile, stay kind of smarter. AIs. They're going against the very laws of nature, Mr. Beale.

Adam Curry (191:57)

Just nothing but blatant bull crap. Super intelligence.

John C. Dvorak (192:06)

You're an idiot.

Adam Curry (192:08)

Why you say that? This is terrible.

John C. Dvorak (192:10)

Dumb lady. Meanwhile, is he true? Isn't it true?

Adam Curry (192:14)

He's an idiot. This is terrible.

John C. Dvorak (192:19)

He's an idiot. You're an idiot. The opposite of entropy. Easy to predict the winner. They're dumb. Safe and beneficial.

Adam Curry (192:29)

It crashed as soon as everyone noticed the icon.

John C. Dvorak (192:33)

It's only going to get worse if anyone builds it. Everyone. Everyone dies.

Adam Curry (192:37)

I think you're dead right.

John C. Dvorak (192:38)

Man, is it tiring.

Adam Curry (192:39)

This is. This is. This is terrible. What a bunch of dicks.

Various Interviewees/Clips (192:45)

Please welcome Maryland Representative Jamie Raskin.

John C. Dvorak (192:54)

And where Franklin D. Roosevelt was renominated by Democrats in 1940 to defeat fascist dictator.

Adam Curry (193:04)

Yeah. Cause who's asking for Jamie Raskin? Unhinged and plastered at the dnc. Jen Psaki sounding drunk on Saki on her former show on NBC calling Kamala the Vice president United States October surprise.

Various Interviewees/Clips (193:22)

She has been Vice President of the.

John C. Dvorak (193:23)

United States calling her the rice President.

Adam Curry (193:25)

Of the United States.

John C. Dvorak (193:27)

Stakes I mean the DNC lending support.

Adam Curry (193:30)

Vasectomy abortion mobile clinics outside to help their voters abort I mean champion these.

John C. Dvorak (193:36)

Women'S rights to choose is listen more the same right. We lose no enthusiasm or grassroots support Donors tied to the ticket seeming like a last resort activate it's our time of the year Scaring black folks with the chance for more more years. Four more years.

Adam Curry (193:56)

Shyster show up and take advantage of people's goodwill and generosity.

John C. Dvorak (194:00)

Four more years. I'm saying it's the most important election of our life at this point.

Adam Curry (194:08)

The only choice I want is having kids and a wife.

John C. Dvorak (194:11)

Yeah.

Adam Curry (194:18)

Running through the fire while we're breaking through all around us Boots on the.

Various Interviewees/Clips (194:22)

Ground Strictly boots on the ground Listen.

Adam Curry (194:24)

To the echo of the heavy metal.

John C. Dvorak (194:26)

Sound we got boots on the ground.

Various Interviewees/Clips (194:28)

Keep the boots on the ground Never backing over Never turning back around Just boots on the ground with the boots.

Adam Curry (194:35)

On the ground on the ground with.

John C. Dvorak (194:38)

The hammer coming down with the boots on the ground Boots on the ground we own the country and we're never losing ground Boots on the ground Boop.

Various Interviewees/Clips (194:47)

Boots on the ground yeah we own.

Adam Curry (194:50)

The country and we're never losing ground.

John C. Dvorak (194:59)

Adios mofo. Dvorak.org Na wow. Wow. Wow wow. Wow. That was great.