1833 - "Spicy Mode"

Summary

No Agenda Show Episode 1833 - "Spicy Mode"

Hosts: Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak
Date: January 11, 2026

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Episode Overview

In Episode 1833 of the No Agenda Show, Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak dive into a wide spectrum of current events, conspiracy theories, and media deconstructions with their signature humor, skepticism, and banter. Major themes include the escalating geopolitical situation in Venezuela and Iran, U.S. energy and foreign policy, Minnesota fraud scandals, AI controversies (including "spicy mode" on Grok/X), mounting social unrest, and media failures to properly cover or contextualize global and domestic stories. As always, the hosts balance sharp media analysis with memorable quotes and punchy observations.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Canadian Secession, Protest, and U.S. Media Myopia

• Alberta Independence Movement: Thousands in Calgary sign a petition for Alberta's separation. Adam and John are amused and skeptical, joking about Canadians' reluctance to chant ("No justice, no peace... no oil?").
• Media Bias: The hosts note the lack of U.S. mainstream coverage for serious domestic and international events compared to sensational and divisive protest coverage (e.g., over-focus on Minneapolis).

2. Venezuelan Conflict, High-Tech Warfare, and U.S. Objectives

• Alleged U.S. Directed Energy Attack:
  • Reports circulate, including one amplified by White House press secretary Carolyn Levitt, of U.S. forces using advanced, possibly sonic, weapons against Venezuelan troops, causing mass casualties.
  • John expresses skepticism: “It’s not that we don’t have this sort of weaponry, but I don’t think it was necessary. I think it’s just to scare the hell out of these guys. I think it was planted.” (08:08)
  • Adam pushes the possibility, referencing prior U.S. black projects: “Remember they had the cancer gun?…If we can go to the moon, why wouldn’t we be able to do this?” (10:08)
• Oil, Geopolitics, and Corporate Interest:
  • U.S. oil executives meeting with President Trump about “total access” to Venezuelan oil and restoring stability.
  • The role of American corporations, market manipulation, Citgo auctions, and hedge fund (Paul Singer) influence.
  • The complexity of involving American business, potentially undermining U.S. shale producers (25:09).
• Diplomatic Back Channels & Media Cover-Up:
  • Little to no M5M (mainstream media) reporting on the ground in Venezuela—most intel is from international sources.
  • Jokes about credit card receipts for journalists and budget tightening.
• Stabilization Plan:
  • Discussing U.S. government’s “three step plan” (15:38): stabilize, rehabilitate, transition—where "transition" means installing friendly governance.
  • Rubio’s involvement and release of political prisoners and pastors (16:25, 16:28).

"The whole thing to me ... about the sonic weapon. I think it's all meant to intimidate the drug cartels. People have no idea…the drug cartels have better weapons than most of these South American countries have in their military." — Adam Curry (21:35)

3. Iran’s Economic Protests and Media Manipulation

• Unrest & Crackdown:
  • Ongoing deadly protests over economic mismanagement, inflation, and shrinking subsidies.
  • Communication blackout—phones and internet shut off, but Starlink terminals reportedly smuggled in.
• Media Coverage & Disinformation:
  • Best coverage comes from non-U.S., boots-on-the-ground sources (Al Jazeera, France 24).
  • PBS’s late surface-level coverage: “At least it’s something.” (45:39)
• The Disputed Petrodollar & New “Stablecoin” Narrative:
  • Adam notes, “the petrodollar is over…that’s why the stablecoin gambit is being set up.” (36:13)
• Conspiracies & Contradiction:
  • Discussion of conflicting reports and alleged “nothing is happening” gaslighting from some pro-regime or counter-protest media.

4. Drug Cartels, Oil, and European Fallout

• Cocaine Flows, Sanctions & European Markets:
  • Shift in drug routes: “Venezuela has long since stopped shipping anything to the United States…cocaine use in the US is down…but is way up in Europe.” (47:46)
  • Flood of cheap drugs in Europe and the possible geopolitical and social consequences discussed.

5. Minnesota Fraud, Food Stamps, and Political Maneuvering

• Scale of Fraud:
  • Ongoing investigation into massive welfare and food stamp fraud in Minnesota, especially among Somali networks.
  • Discussion of how fraud was downplayed as “overbilling” by state agencies; whistleblower testimony (56:00).
• Political/Media Response:
  • Ilhan Omar (MN Rep.) defends state policies against accusations, tries to play down fraud.
  • Adam: “It’s not fraud, it’s overbilling.” — highlighting bureaucratic cover-ups.
• Federal Crackdown & Local Politics:
  • Treasury Secretary speaks candidly about following the money, drawing comparisons to Mafia and cartel investigations.

6. Minneapolis Shooting, ICE, and the “Domestic Terrorist” Debate

• Recent ICE Shooting & Aftermath:
  • National protests erupt after ICE agent shoots a Minneapolis woman; media repeats “George Floyd” narrative loop.
  • Minneapolis Mayor Fry and Police Chief on CNN defending the city; contest ICE's version of events.
• Dimension A vs Dimension B:
  • Adam & John use their long-running “two realities” riff, underscoring the intractability of media/fan group polarization and narrative battles.
• Legal Definitions & Media Dissection:
  • Dissecting the U.S. legal definition of “domestic terrorism" and whether it fits the incident (74:21).
  • Satirizing the endless Zapruder-like video analysis, “I have eyes. I can see it.”
  • Jake Tapper’s openly partisan “position” as journalist critiqued: “He’s not interviewing her anymore, he’s part of it.” (78:56)

7. AI, ‘Spicy Mode,’ and the Deepfake Crisis

• X/Grok's Controversial "Spicy Mode":
  • The AI tool’s ability to generate sexualized deepfakes—scandal as images of real people, including minors, are undressed and shared.
  • European authorities react: “This is not spicy. This is illegal. This is appalling.” (117:31)
  • Elon Musk’s ex-girlfriend’s image gets targeted by the bot—ironic and notable moment.
• Regulatory Threats:
  • Calls to ban X from app stores, European governments’ threats, UK PM condemnation.
• Broader AI Disillusion:
  • Riffing on the lack of “killer apps” at CES except for bird-spotting binoculars, Roomba with legs, toothbrushes, and Tamagotchi revivals.
  • Adam: “That is the advanced AI economy that we're going into…” (109:05)

8. UK "Synthetic News" and Farage’s Avengers

• Analysis of a viral, entirely fabricated "news" video about King Charles confronting PM Keir Starmer—a detailed case of AI-generated, narrative-warping media making the rounds on YouTube. (142:13, 144:18)
• “There’s a bunch of these out there…You have to be careful.” — John (148:34)

9. Zoomers, Tech Illiteracy, and Intentional De-skilling

• Older millennials and managers complain about younger workers' lack of basic IT skills—command-line, typing, using Excel, troubleshooting.
• Discussion of surging RAM prices due to AI demand (100:11).
• Linux & interface nerd banter: Adam touts "Omarchi” for keyboard-driven productivity.

10. Listener Letters, Donation Segment, Housekeeping

• Legal help sought by a military contractor terminated for COVID vax refusal.
• Minnesota meetups, newsletter notes, art selection discussions.
• Call-outs for continued financial support; playful shaming of “freeloaders.”

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On overhyped weapon rumors:
  “Why can’t you just believe that we’re awesome? You’re anti-American, man. I think we’re pretty awesome.”
  — Adam Curry (09:33)
• On petrodollars & new digital currency plans:
  “That’s why the stable coin gambit is being set up. So don’t worry about the petrodollar. It’s not a thing anymore, people.”
  — Adam Curry (36:13)
• On alleged DEWs used by U.S. troops:
  “For 18 years I’ve been talking about directed energy weapons.”
  — Adam Curry (04:54)
• On AI at CES:
  “This is the advanced AI economy... Oh, you just stick this thing in your mouth and within 20 seconds your teeth are clean.”
  — Adam Curry (109:05)
• On mainstream media’s superficiality:
  “Just a top line surface report from PBS. Not much else.”
  — Adam Curry (45:39)

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Important Timestamps

• Venezuela attack/DEW narrative: 03:07 - 10:41
• US oil interests & Citgo auction: 11:25 - 25:51
• Iran protests and crackdown: 33:00 - 41:33
• Europe’s coked-up crisis: 47:11 - 51:30
• Minnesota fraud, Ilhan Omar, and whistleblowers: 56:00 - 64:21
• Minneapolis ICE shooting debate: 69:30 - 80:49
• AI "spicy mode"/deepfake scandal: 116:43 - 121:23
• Synthetic UK news & Charles/Starmer showdown: 142:13 - 148:34
• CES AI product mockery: 102:51 - 112:05

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Running Gags & Tone

• Dimension A/B: Ongoing bit about two parallel realities and the impossibility of reconciliation.
• Snark & Parody: Satirical redefinitions: “It’s not fraud, it’s overbilling”; comments on media personalities (e.g., Jake Tapper, Nancy Pelosi).
• Banter About Podcasting, Linux, and Generational Gaps
• Continued Listener Engagement through dedouches, karma requests, and crowd-sourced insights.

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Conclusion

Episode 1833 of No Agenda exemplifies Adam and John’s approach: dissecting mainstream narratives, elevating underreported stories, tracing the shadowy links between money, media, and power while lampooning both political figures and tech fads. Memorable for its skeptical coverage of the Venezuelan “superweapon” story; deconstruction of media bias in domestic protests and international crises; and the absurdity of AI and deepfake technologies, this episode reminds listeners that, to paraphrase the hosts, “the country’s always been this way”—and you’d better pay attention, stay skeptical, and 'produce' accordingly.

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Transcript

[Adam Curry]

Berlin, stop rubbing your ATMs. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak, it's Sunday, January 11, 2026. This is your award winning Gibbonation Media Assassination Episode 1833.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is no Agenda.

[Adam Curry]

We're all Zapruder now. And we are broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill country here in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley, we're watching the fall of Civilization. I'm John C. Dvorak, Crackpot and Buzzk.

[Adam Curry]

I don't know about that, but it is definitely dimension A and dimension B. Back on deck. As if it ever went away.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

So they're lined up in last night or the night before whatever, in Calgary to sign the petition to separate.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, they expected a small event and thousands of people showed up.

[John C. Dvorak]

Here's the problem I have with it. I thought this was already on the ballot.

[Adam Curry]

I have no idea. What do they want? They want independence. Yeah. What do they want? No justice, no peace.

[John C. Dvorak]

No oil. What was it? No. Something. No oil. No. I don't know.

[Adam Curry]

I didn't hear it. I didn't hear it.

[John C. Dvorak]

No justice, no oil. Who's the one with the oil? There's a bumper sticker.

[Adam Curry]

Did we have a chance? Do we have a chance?

[John C. Dvorak]

What? Of Alberta splitting off.

[Adam Curry]

I don't think so. I don't think there was a chant. I don't think so.

[John C. Dvorak]

Maybe a chance.

[Adam Curry]

A chant? A chance. No, no.

[John C. Dvorak]

A chant. No, they're Canadians.

[Adam Curry]

Just complaint. It's just a complaint. There's no chance.

[John C. Dvorak]

Where's our chant?

[Adam Curry]

We're not going to chant at all. Man, this is so tiring. When the quad.

[John C. Dvorak]

What, What? Which of what column are you looking at?

[Adam Curry]

Well, I'm looking. I'm looking at all. I'm looking at the quad screen. That's all kind of the same. What, what happened? Just as a maybe a small aside, let me just play this was. This was. I couldn't get any, of course. I mean, because it's all Minneapolis, Minneapolis, Minneapolis, Minneapolis, Minneapolis, Minneapolis, Minneapolis, Minneapolis.

[John C. Dvorak]

By the way, between. In Oakland, between January 1st and there were five murders. None of it covers no protests.

[Adam Curry]

I think Chicago's already had 13, 14 deaths. Who cares?

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, they're black people.

[Adam Curry]

They're black, they're black, who cares? No, this is this story which Carolyn Levitt posted or retweeted from an interview that was translated from something in some. I guess it was Spanish. And of course there's not a single report that I could find on it. This Morning. So I had to go to the well to W I O N because they're always on top of the news.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

The alleged witness account was also shared on social media by the White House press secretary. In the interview, the guard allegedly described how US forces use technology unlike anything he has ever seen. He said that all their radar systems shut down without any explanation. It was followed by a lot of drones flying over their positions. He claimed that eight helicopter arrived moments later deploying what he estimated were just 20 US troops into the area. But he said that these few men came armed with something far more powerful than guns. The guard claims that the US troops shot with precision and speed. He said, and I'm quoting, it felt like each soldier was firing 300 rounds per minute. At one point, US troops launched another weapon. According to the guards account. It was like a very intense sound wave and he felt like his head was exploding from the inside. He claimed that the Venezuelan side started bleeding from the nose while some were vomiting blood. They were unable to move. An estimated hundred Venezuelan security forces were killed in the January 3rd attack. The white House press secretary Caroline Levitt has shared the account on social media. However, the White House has not confirmed whether administration was verifying the veracity of the eyewitness account.

[Adam Curry]

Now.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I have the clip that triggered all this and I think this is almost word for word what she stole from this guy. This is the Maduro security guard. Second half. And I noticed it says second half.

[Adam Curry]

He wanted to bring it in. Second half of show.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. I didn't expect you to drop it at the beginning. Well, it's second half of show material.

[Adam Curry]

I disagree. For 18 years I've been talking about directed energy weapons.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, okay. Yeah, they had a beam.

[Adam Curry]

It's called. Well, here's L. Rad. But okay. You know, you can mock me all you want.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm not blocking you. I just. Mocking.

[Adam Curry]

Mocking. I didn't say block. Mock.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, I. I'm sorry. I'm normally block.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, well that's. That's your go to.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hello, Styles.

[Adam Curry]

That's your go to.

[John C. Dvorak]

I normally just block.

[Adam Curry]

Someone literally sent me a forward from. From a reject from your email server. It said susp. Blocked due to suspicion.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, there's a lot of that.

[Adam Curry]

That's good.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is the McGur. Okay. Anyway, this is the. This came floating around. This was passed around the net. I don't know where Carolyn got it, but the wion person, obviously they just took this verbatim.

[Adam Curry]

Everyone did. The ones that did came from an interview. That is in Spanish.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, and this is the guy who did the interview.

[Adam Curry]

A security guard that was protecting Maduro has spoken and you got to hear what he said. It's in Spanish, but I'll translate. Also, Trump announced that, you know, the cartels, they're going after him in Mexico. The whole vibe of Latin America has changed because of what happened in Venezuela. And now that we're getting first hand accounts from people, they were there. The soldier says they didn't hear him coming. They said, he says the Americans had technology superior to anything they've ever seen. Everything that they were using for radar, for anything was completely taken offline. They had drones and the drones were taking out bases and taking out things faster. They didn't have no technology. They've never had to fight against drones. He also talks about that There was only eight helicopters. There was only 20 men that were sent in. And those 20 men killed hundreds of their men and none of those soldiers were injured. He talks about it felt like they were firing 300 rounds a minute. Nothing they've ever seen, nothing that they can compete with. And then he also talks to the fact that the Americans had some kind of sonic shock boom, that was sent out and everybody immediately started bleeding profusely out of their nose. They couldn't even gather themselves because whatever was sent at them made them fall to their knees and vomit blood out of their mouth and out of their noses. They were incapacitated immediately. He says he never wants to fear, never wants to go through that again, doesn't want to have to fight with the Americans again. He's sending warnings to everybody out there that you, you think you can fight the Americans. You don't even know what their weaponry is like and what they're capable of. 20 men took out hundreds. And that's starting to spread all through Latin America.

[John C. Dvorak]

And now they're not saying, if you.

[Adam Curry]

Want me, come and get me anymore. They're like, oh, especially after Trump says, hey, Mexico, you're on the list too. So you put the second half because you don't believe it.

[John C. Dvorak]

You're right, I don't believe it. I mean, it's not that we don't have this sort of weaponry, but I don't think it was necessary. And I think it's just to scare the hell out of these guys. I think it was planted.

[Adam Curry]

Hmm, that's possible. But it's about time we had this technology. I mean, they've been experimenting with it long enough.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, no, I agree.

[Adam Curry]

And I think we should use it on Minneapolis. Let's see it in action.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, that would be a practical use.

[Adam Curry]

Let's see it in action. Action man. But more interesting, maybe to me is 300 rounds a minute. I mean, that's five rounds a second. What barrel melting device is that that you can hold in your hands? And how do you even. It has to be a belt or a really big magazine. That actually sounded kind of odd, but lrad, that's real. I mean, they have. They have been experimenting with it for a long, long time. And remember, we had the. Maybe that was what we were experimenting on. Our own people in the embassies, everyone getting sick.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's possible. I'm just. I'm just doubting the whole thing.

[Adam Curry]

Well, we'll see.

[John C. Dvorak]

Including the 300 rounds a minute. It's too much opportunity to hit your own men with this stuff. I mean, there's two. There's. With 25 guys.

[Adam Curry]

Why can't you just believe that we're awesome? What is. Are you. You're anti American, man, I think we're pretty awesome.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is American ingenuity, actually, if you think about it, it's an awesome thing to do, which is to create a bull crap. Well, that's narrative that.

[Adam Curry]

It just doesn't seem like Carolyn Levitt would do that. It just doesn't seem like.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't think she had anything. I don't know, that she may have been freelancing. She doesn't. Maybe she. Or maybe she was part of it. Part of the scheme to this. Frighten the pup. Frighten the enemies without, you know, having to do. Shoot a shot.

[Adam Curry]

Maybe. Maybe.

[John C. Dvorak]

Perfect CIA material. They like to do that kind of thing.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, well, remember they had the. The cancer gun? They showed that in what, 19, was it 79 or something? During the. The hearing about MK Ultra Church hearings. Yeah, the church hearings. Yes. Remember they had the cancer gun? They held it up. Look at this thing. Shoot you with this. No, it was a heart attack gun. I'm sorry, the heart attack gun? Yeah, no, we. But you know, hey, man, if we can go to the moon, why wouldn't be able to do this?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, your point well taken.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, yes, yes, yes, I know. I'm slowly getting you. Slowly, slowly, slowly. I'm bringing you to the did not land side. Eventually you'll get there.

[John C. Dvorak]

Once they get to the math of the stuff they destroyed. Maybe.

[Adam Curry]

So do you want to talk about Venezuela or do you want to jump on?

[John C. Dvorak]

Do I have Venezuela clips?

[Adam Curry]

Oh, I got tons of Venezuela clips. Not so much about Venezuela, but about the big meeting, and my buddy was There at the big meeting, the big meeting of all the oil dudes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, well, I have an oil saga clip.

[Adam Curry]

Well, let me play the opener. Just a positioning clip.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

President Trump today meeting with oil executives at the White House just hours after the US Military seized another oil tanker linked to Venezuela. New video from U.S. southern Command showing the seizure of that tanker in the Caribbean, the third one this week. U.S. troops were pulling down ropes from a helicopter and then taking control of that ship. During his meeting with oil executives, the President saying that he wants to, quote, total access to Venezuela's oil.

[John C. Dvorak]

All of the companies here today are going to be treasured partners in bringing the nation of Venezuela back to life, restoring its economy and generating great wealth for their companies and for their people, and also great wealth for the American people.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Meanwhile, the US has now sent a delegation to Venezuela in a first step toward restoration, restoring diplomatic relations after the capture of Nicolas Maduro.

[Adam Curry]

So the video was kind of interesting. I saw our guy there. It's not the oil baron himself. It's. The oil baron's partner was there. So I saw him and he basically went. I think the president asked him, so what do you think about Venezuela? And he went, yeah, a lot of shale there. He didn't say, we're going to go right away, Mr. President. But in the video, Tucker was there. You see Tucker standing around in that meeting?

[John C. Dvorak]

That's interesting, no?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Now it's even more interesting that the word on the street is he actually had a private lunch with the President, and then the President said, hey, come on, hang with these oil guys.

[John C. Dvorak]

So there was some reason for that.

[Adam Curry]

Well, of course, you know, Tucker's Team Trump, he's just doing his thing. Whatever he's been told to do, I presume. I presume. Okay, so what you got?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I got a couple. I got three clips, for one thing. Let's just start with this mild clip. You know, they have a. This is a Venezuela guy in Venezuela, and this is the report for. I went to Al Jazeera to get a bunch of stuff because if you.

[Adam Curry]

Want anything, you got to go outside the M5M USA.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, because all they're talking about is that woman in Minnesota. And I just thought it was interesting that they actually have boots on the ground in Venezuela. Guy floating around. Reporter. We don't have anybody. Where's our people?

[Adam Curry]

That's a good point.

[John C. Dvorak]

Where's abc, cbsc, and CNN roaming?

[Adam Curry]

That's a good point. We don't. I don't think. I don't think I've seen A single report from any of our big networks. Cnn.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, they're too afraid. Oh, don't go. I don't want to go there. I'm gonna get killed. So we have to. So this.

[Adam Curry]

I think it's a budget thing. There's no money left.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, there's that too. Y. We gotta do. We gotta then this, this. And they might be stuck there for a couple of days of hotel costs. No. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Save your credit card receipts. Oh, wait. Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, so here's the Venezuela reporter from Al Jazeera. Just is their report.

[Adam Curry]

Well, Venezuelans have endured decades of financial hardship. But after Washington's promise to roll back oil sanctions, there's cautious optimism for an economic turnaround. Nora Soto reports now from the capital Caracas.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Venezuela has the world's largest known oil reserves, and yet its economy has been plunged into uncertainty. For millions, life has become a daily struggle. Anna has lived through years of crippling sanctions, shortages, and inflation. While many others left, she chose to stay. She holds on to the days when the local currency was worth something and.

[Adam Curry]

Her dreams felt possible.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

The hardest part of starting a business in Venezuela is economic instability. We work based on the US Dollar. If we had a stable currency, everything would be less difficult.

[Adam Curry]

Well, how about a stable coin for you? It's coming. It's coming. I'm telling you. Stablecoin is.

[John C. Dvorak]

They're out floating around now. Here, now this is the ones that got my attention. These clips. This is if you remember, we played a clip from Rubio last show about the three step. The stages. Yeah, there's three stages. What they're going to have to do first, you got to do this and you got to do that. And this is one of the stages. And this is the Venezuela. They're already releasing prisoners.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, there you go. Rights groups say Venezuela's government has released another group of prisoners. They're urging authorities to free more detainees. The release has been a long held US demand and comes less than a week after former president Nicolas Maduro was captured by the US About a thousand political prisoners are believed to be held in jails across Venezuela. Yeah, big news in the, in the Jesus world. Everyone's talking about the pastors they released supposedly.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, well, they're doing that. That's not being covered by our media.

[Adam Curry]

800 pastors were released from jail. No, well, it's. It's covered by like the 700 by.

[John C. Dvorak]

The pastor media, which I don't follow, I have to admit.

[Adam Curry]

Pastor News Network, pnn. Yeah, I follow it. I follow it.

[John C. Dvorak]

So. Yeah, you would. So and then there's this little gem, which is another kind of an interesting gotcha. This is the Venezuela oil saga continues. Clip.

[Adam Curry]

President Trump has moved to tighten US Control over revenue from the sale of Venezuelan oil. An executive order aims to prevent legal claims on the funds by putting the money beyond the reach of the courts. The administration says the purpose is to ensure economic and political stability in Venezuela and to curb illegal immigration. It says the money will be the property of Venezuela, but will be held in US treasury accounts. Mr. Trump signed the order after meeting with more than a dozen oil executives at the White House in an effort to raise $100 billion in investments to fix Venezuela's oil infrastructure. Wait a minute. So it's being put into treasury accounts owned by Venezuela. That Russian money in eu. Anybody? That's interesting. Of course.

[John C. Dvorak]

I thought so.

[Adam Curry]

Of course. That's the perfect way to say, and now we're gonna put some, you know, we'll sell you some T bills and.

[John C. Dvorak]

We'Ll give Venezuela for your money.

[Adam Curry]

No, no, we'll give them the stable coin backed by T bills.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, they can do that. Yeah, that's coming. But the whole thing to come. The whole thing about the. But, no, we're not. Because he. Trump is fearful. He's like, with good reason. Of all these liberal judges.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, they're.

[John C. Dvorak]

Slam the hammer down. No, now you got to return the money or whatever. I got the money. They've got the money.

[Adam Curry]

Now some judge is going to get Maduro out of jail and he'll probably go, no, I don't want to go. It's dangerous out there. I like it in here. Don't let me go. I did read that JP Morgan, I guess JP Morgan has, has, Has a couple of banks in. Or a couple of. What do you call them?

[John C. Dvorak]

Banks.

[Adam Curry]

Banks in Venezuela.

[John C. Dvorak]

Could be.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. So everybody's in on this and they're not telling us the whole story, which is too bad. I did come across an interesting article about New York Representative Richie Torres, who has proposed a law. Let me see, let me see. The exact. I don't think they have a name for it. Oh, yes. The Public Integrity in Financial Prediction markets Act of 2026. Because he says, I don't think it's okay if it were to be that way, that anyone inside the administration can make money on the exact. Prop bets on the exact timing of the invasion. $400,000. That's good. Yeah. Because you know that that was probably Jared, he said, watch this.

[John C. Dvorak]

Jared would be the smartest one to do that.

[Adam Curry]

He would.

[John C. Dvorak]

And Then what are you gonna do? What's the worst that could happen?

[Adam Curry]

Hey, if only we had an inside track. Where's our boots on the ground? Come on. People should have let us know. Here's Vice President Vance debunking the fake, fake Bloomberg story, which we reported on the last show. And we immediately said we don't know, but it was Bloomberg. You think Bloomberg would have some.

[John C. Dvorak]

Did it actually come from Bloomberg? Are we sure?

[Adam Curry]

Well, I got it from Bloomberg. So Bloomberg reported on it. Yeah, here it is.

[John C. Dvorak]

So I've heard a couple of things. One, that I was kept out of the planning for the Venezuela operation. That's false. And another, that Tulsi was kept out of the planning for Venezuela operations. That's completely false. Look, we're all part of the same team. And one of the things that is really amazing about that operation is that we kept it very tight to the senior cabinet level officials and related officials in our government, and we kept this operation secret for a very long time. I'm very proud of that. I think it suggests, for good reason. I think it suggests that the team works very well together. Looking ahead, what is my role? Look, my role is going to be whatever the President asks, asks me to do something else. Well, every single, or I should say every other day, I'm chairing the meeting that we do on this among White House principals to talk about next steps, to try.

[Adam Curry]

He kind of let something loose there every day. I mean, every other day. So they have a meeting. Every other day it's a staff meeting.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, every single, or I should say every other day I'm chairing the meeting that we do on this among White House principals to talk about next steps to try to ensure that Venezuela is stable and as the President has directed us to do, to ensure that the new Venezuelan government actually listens to the United States and does what the United States needs it to do under our country's best interest. So I'm going to be as involved as the President wants me to be. So far that's been very involved. And I'll keep on doing that so long as the President asks me to do it.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. You know, I think all of this is really everything, including the sonic weapon. I think it's all meant to intimidate the drug cartels. People have no idea. The drug cartels have better weapons than most of these South American countries have in their military. You know, there's so much money in this. It's hard for people to fathom how much money really goes around in the Drug networks. And I hope it's tax free. Oh, yeah, it's tax free for sure. So this morning on Face the Nation, Margaret. Margaret Brennan had our Secretary of Energy, Chris White on the show and she actually spoke about the three point plan of which was one releasing the prisoners.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Okay, so Secretary Rubio said there's a three point plan. Stabilize, rehabilitate, transition. This sounds indefinite. Even when you heard some of those oil executives, Chevron's leadership, they're already in Venezuela, we should say, said it'll take 18 to 24 months to even increase oil production by 50%. So how long is this American involvement? Because he's saying there it's at least a year and a half, two years.

[Adam Curry]

They've been there for 100 years. And likely Chevron is going to be there 50 years from now.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

But so United States government, how long does that role continue?

[John C. Dvorak]

You heard the third part of Rubio's question, which is transition. We want to bring a representative government to the people of Venezuela. I think then you'll see the full sovereignty back to the government of Venezuela. We don't have a legitimate government of Venezuela today. We'd like to move and get there.

[Adam Curry]

But America's there as a timeline. 25 years, this country's gone in decline.

[John C. Dvorak]

President Trump out of the box. Creative intervention has allowed us to change the game.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, but I don't know the timeline of that. It's not weeks, it's more. Months.

[John C. Dvorak]

Could be a year or two, could be more.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Whatever.

[Adam Curry]

We're working on it. Of course, way before CBS got into the Citgo deal, which we pegged immediately. Paul Singer, huge Trump, huge Trump donor who completed his acquisition of Citgo in December. Maybe it was his prop bet that came up in the conversation.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

So back in November, US Judge backed a bid by an American hedge fund to purchase Citgo Petroleum. The treasury still has to approve that deal. The hedge fund is actually run by a big Trump donor, Paul Singer.

[Adam Curry]

Boom.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Do you want to preserve.

[Adam Curry]

Come on, Barry Weiss, if you're going to listen to us for your stories, just give us some credit.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Hedge fund is actually run by a big Trump donor. Paul Singer. Do you want to preserve Venezuelan ownership of Citgo? Do you want to have America have a financial stake in it? Like Trump bought a big portion of the intel company. Do you want to own portions of oil companies?

[Adam Curry]

Again, that's going to be up to American businesses.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's certainly a very real possibility. The Citgo sale is part of, is part of bringing redress to creditors of the United States for the Venezuelan government. And of course one, one of the capital providers in that transaction is a.

[Adam Curry]

Hedge fund provider you just mentioned.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's lots of American investors and American.

[Adam Curry]

Refining entrepreneurs that are involved in that. So to take Venezuelan owned refineries that are in the United States and legally, through an auction process, transfer them to.

[John C. Dvorak]

American owners and American entrepreneurs in the.

[Adam Curry]

Refining business, I think that's fantastic. You know, it's pretty contentious what's going on here because the President's asking basically to help put the shale producers in America on their back foot, if not out of business to some degree. Because if he's, you know, depending on what price they sell this oil for, market prices, you know, that basically hurts the shale producers. They're all like, complaint the oil barons, like, he's happy for America and for Venezuela, but he's not happy about his business. To which I say, oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, one plane less.

[John C. Dvorak]

One plane less.

[Adam Curry]

He's gonna, he's gonna burn me for that comment.

[John C. Dvorak]

Probably.

[Adam Curry]

Nah, it's okay. So, but, but even the shale producers, you know, they say, hey, if you pay us, we'll go and we'll explore, we'll go see what's going on. So, so now it comes down to. All right, is all that money going to Venezuela? Are you going to pay us to go and explore some stuff? Because no one's really too like jumpy about it, it seems, even just looking at. Because I watched that whole session with the President, you know, besides the cordialness of, oh, Mr. President, you're awesome. It didn't seem like everyone was like, yeah, this is great for us. No. Then of course there's the question of corruption.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

There's concern about corruption here though. Will there be Americans installed on these boards? And how do you respond to these allegations that some Trump donors are going to get preferential treatment?

[John C. Dvorak]

I can assure you that is absolutely not the case.

[Adam Curry]

Absolutely not the case. It is. Sounds to me like it's completely the case.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow. So what, me?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, me protest a bit too much? I can assure you, absolute demoners are.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Going to get preferential treatment.

[Adam Curry]

I can assure you that is absolutely not the case. And he even has a laugh tale in there. What a loser. Listen to him.

[John C. Dvorak]

I can assure you that is absolutely not the case. Absolutely not the case. Think of what President Trump has done for the American oil and gas industry. He's driven down the price of oil. He's dramatically.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

There's an oversupply of oil and you're Going to put more on the market.

[John C. Dvorak]

Exactly.

[Adam Curry]

That's not, that's not good for American oil and gas companies because it makes.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

It less profitable for them to actually go and invest in drill baby drill.

[John C. Dvorak]

Exactly.

[Adam Curry]

Democrats and President Biden are fantastic for American oil and gas.

[John C. Dvorak]

Exactly. To whatever she says.

[Adam Curry]

But what he's saying a good bit. Yeah, but what he's saying here is exactly what the oil baron has always told me. He said, I love that President Trump is our president, but it's really bad for my business. He says Democrats are good for the oil business. Republican presidents.

[John C. Dvorak]

All you have to do is look at the day Joe Biden was elected and look at go. Somebody can go back and do this. Look at the day Joe Biden got in office. And look at this at the same time, look at the, at the stock chart for Exxon.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, huge.

[John C. Dvorak]

To the moon.

[Adam Curry]

To the moon.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's not good for American oil and.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Gas companies because it makes it less profitable for them to actually go and invest in drill baby drill.

[Adam Curry]

Exactly.

[John C. Dvorak]

Democrats and President Biden are fantastic for.

[Adam Curry]

American oil and gas companies because they.

[John C. Dvorak]

Try to restrict the supply to something that's essential to life, which only has one possible impact, which is to drive.

[Adam Curry]

Up prices and grow profitability. So President Trump is no dummy, is no dummy oil and gas industry. And certainly there's no corruption, preferential placement of people.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's none of that. I can assure you of that. I'm in the center of this.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

How are you going to decide the contracts? Is the treasury going to approve the Citgo dominance there?

[John C. Dvorak]

And that, that, that went through a large auction to Congress.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

The decisions you're making about which firms get access.

[Adam Curry]

Absolutely, all that.

[John C. Dvorak]

That was an auction open to all American firms. There were many bidders, including the coalition of bidders you mentioned.

[Adam Curry]

We want those assets to get as.

[John C. Dvorak]

Much money as possible to go back to the creditors of Venezuelan government.

[Adam Curry]

And we want American refinery assets. Who are the creditors? Oh, that would be the oil companies.

[John C. Dvorak]

We want those assets to get as possible to go back to the creditors of Venezuelan government. And we want American refinery assets owned by Americans that are going to increase the throughput, drive down the price of gasoline in America.

[Adam Curry]

By the way, Citgo is pretty small. They're a small player compared to the other big, the other big boys with the refinery. Sitco is pretty small. So it's not a huge deal. But it was nice for his buddy. I think the President, he knows exactly what's going on. He talks a big game about drill baby drill. Everyone's saying, no, no, there's. Our shale returns are diminishing. So I think the only way to really do it is to give everybody a little taste, a little piece of the action and set up shop over there. That would be the future. It's just not in the shale. From everything. I understand. What's interesting.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, there's a lot of product you can get from this heavy crew that you can't get from shale.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah, no, it's great. And what's interesting is this. I think this directly has also affected Iran, which seems to be a little less than the video might show. I talked to Lex yesterday. You know, his wife, Fariba, she has her mom and her sisters live in Tehran, although they haven't been able to talk to him because the phones have been cut off. Not just the Internet, but phones in general. And he says, yeah, you know, if you stay inside, you're gonna be okay. It's not all over the country yet. He says it's definitely real. And he says there's no leader. There's no one who stood up and said, this is it. But the reason why this affects Iran is because of these ghost ships where in essence or in reality, Venezuela and Iran were swapping oil because Iran. Doesn't Iran have light crude, the sweet stuff.

[John C. Dvorak]

If you're set up to refine heavy crude, that's what you do.

[Adam Curry]

You don't.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't believe they were swapping oil.

[Adam Curry]

That's what I've heard. That's exactly.

[John C. Dvorak]

But why? What would be the point? So you can.

[Adam Curry]

They don't. Well, they don't have. I don't know. You know what? I don't know. I don't know enough about it. But this is what I've understood is that Iran was sending their light over. Venezuela has no, no ability to. Or very little capacity to refine the heavy stuff. That's all done here. So they, you know, low output on. On refinery. But anyway, it's. And it's also. It's all the drug. It's just drug money. Oil is drug money, man. I got some drugs, seller put in oil, ship it over the year, ship it over there. It's just. It's just a. Like a really slow bitcoin moving, moving all over the seas. It's crazy. We're this stuff. I've never. I mean, we were always into pipelines, but now you see these ghost ships and everybody pumping it from one ship to another, painting new flags, new name, new transponder codes, you know, and a lot of American companies, I think, are involved in this. It's not just like the Russians did it in the Venezuelans and the Chinese. There's American corporations involved in this stuff.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's money to be made. There should be.

[Adam Curry]

It's literal money. I mean, it's all arbitrage. It's amazing. It's dirty, but it's an amazing business, really. So what do you have in Iran? Because, you know, so that's. I have a couple of other boots on the ground, but that was the main one.

[John C. Dvorak]

I have the Al Jazeera Cliffs, which I thought would be interesting. Okay, might as well start with those. Iran 1 and 2, AJ.

[Adam Curry]

Iran's government is intensifying a crackdown on protests against a severe economic crisis which are now into a second week. More than 200 people have been arrested. Rallies are taking place in towns and cities across the country with demonstrators setting fire to buildings. The attorney general has warned that those involved in the unrest could face the death penalty. Well, a nationwide communication shutdown has been in place since Thursday, but some people are managing to post videos of the rallies online. Protests began over the soaring cost of living and plunging value of the local currency, Al Jazeera. State Asadi has more from the capital, Tehran. It's now two weeks we have been witnessing protests across Iran in different cities.

[John C. Dvorak]

Including here in the capital.

[Adam Curry]

The unrest flared off into violence in several locations, leaving fatalities and injuries both from protesters and security forces. Arrests are reported, even though when it comes to numbers, we don't have any confirmed information. The protests actually started in the economic cops, such as the Grand Bazaar against.

[John C. Dvorak]

The country's worsening economic situation situation.

[Adam Curry]

It quickly spread to other cities, sparking rallies. Initially scattered, but now in more cities. We see it going on. The state response started by recognizing the right of people to peacefully protest. But as the situation started to escalate.

[John C. Dvorak]

The state has been trying to draw.

[Adam Curry]

A line between protesters and what the Iranian supreme leader, Ayatollah Khamenei, called Sabbath saboteurs, against whom he said, the Islamic.

[John C. Dvorak]

Republic will not give in.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, it's the big Satan doing it. It's America. Stop it. Stop doing it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, they finally got around to blaming us in Israel. I'm actually shocked that it's starting to get covered by our pbs, for example. I have a clip. I have a total of four here. This is a. By the way, there's another. That was another guy from Al Jazeer on the street in Tehran reporting. You know, reporting as opposed to our NBC, cbs, abc, cnn. People, where are they there's not one of them on the street in Tehran. So they're just making it up and, you know, just kind of giving us glossing over everything.

[Adam Curry]

Well, there's no benefit to the intelligence organization, so why would they go? They had. There's no safe house for them. There's nothing.

[John C. Dvorak]

Here's part two of that report.

[Adam Curry]

The Supreme National Security Council of the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Country called it a joint American Israel.

[Adam Curry]

Plot to destabilize the country. As the security measures have tightened up.

[John C. Dvorak]

The Internet shutdown, which started on Thursday.

[Adam Curry]

Night continues and international calls are severely restricted. It happened following the escalation of protests in the capital the same night as we saw many protesters taking to the streets.

[John C. Dvorak]

And the mayor of Tehran said government.

[Adam Curry]

Buildings, banks, mosques, public transportation, transportation vehicles and medical centers were damaged. Several protesters were arrested.

[John C. Dvorak]

Also, speaking of the latest developments, the.

[Adam Curry]

Government unveiled a subsidy scheme which includes a monthly payment of around US$7 to.

[John C. Dvorak]

Citizens available from today. For the lower income classes who are.

[Adam Curry]

Struggling to cover daily essentials these days, public dissatisfaction exists whether or not people take threats. And many here are now watching to see how the government will respond not just to the protests, but to the economic hardships that they are facing in their daily lives. You know, there's this narrative out on the Internet, and I see it in the troll room as well, that, you know, it goes like this. This isn't about oil. It's about the petrodollar. Well, let me tell you, the petrod. Actually, our deal with Saudi Arabia ended. What did it end, like a year ago? The 1971 deal? You price it in. In dollars and we'll protect you. That actual agreement ended and the petrodollar is over. I mean, everyone's already trading in their own currency. That's why the stable coin gambit is being set up. So don't worry about the petrodollar. It's just. It's not. It's not a thing anymore, people. It's.

[John C. Dvorak]

So we have. They shut down the Internet. But there was, according to Grok, which would know. I asked it about Starlink, and it would know because it's.

[Adam Curry]

Starlink's part of the Grok empire.

[John C. Dvorak]

The Grok, Musk, Grok empire. Dave's. Over 10,000, maybe 20,000 terminals have been snuck into the country. They're illegal. And Musk turned. Iran was blacked out from the Starlink system, but Musk turned it back on.

[Adam Curry]

Well, let's just remind everybody how that works. That Elon turns it on and you get six months free. After that, you got to start paying for it. That's exactly what he did in Ukraine.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well, he's also said it's free.

[Adam Curry]

Free with card.

[John C. Dvorak]

So they got free. And meanwhile. And then because somebody. One of our producers said this is bull crap. This is not a root grassroots. Because otherwise. Then he went on about the lack of Internet and once you get the terminals of sending stuff down, then you Bluetooth it between phones. I mean, once you. Because they can't stop that meshtastic. Make him mesh. So it's possible that they can have communications from outside, inside, whatever. And then of course, they're all yelling. This Tusi TV guy has them yelling for democracy and at the same time for the. For the Shah.

[Adam Curry]

Let me just play. Insert this clip for a second. This is from. Let me see, where is this from? This is France 24. I have a comment on it.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

A 13th day of protests in Iran as anger on the streets shows no sign of subsiding despite the government shutting off the Internet. Images of motorcycles on fire and overturned police cars are circulating on social media as crowds openly defy the regime with cries of death to the dictator. The protests have spread across Iran to over 100 cities, even reaching the conservative Mashhad, birthplace of Ayatollah Khamenei. The supreme leader responded by accusing the US of interference.

[John C. Dvorak]

The tyrants and arrogant people of this world, when they are at the height.

[Adam Curry]

Of their pride, they are overthrown.

[John C. Dvorak]

Trump will also be brought down.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Tehran broadcast images of pro government rallies on Iranian television in an attempt to show it still has support. But videos filmed by locals show a shaken regime with the statue of Revolutionary Guard commander Qasem Soleimani being destroyed.

[Adam Curry]

Always a classic.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Or the Islamic Republic flag being torn in half and Iranians chanting a new slogan, long live the Shah, in reference to the pro Western Shah of Iran ousted by the 1979 Islamic Revolution. His son Reza Pahlavi urged Trump to help the protesters.

[Adam Curry]

Don't abandon the streets.

[John C. Dvorak]

I assure you that victory is near.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

According to NGOs, Iranian authorities cracked down on protesters, arresting over 2,000 people and leaving dozens dead.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, so from. From Boots on the Ground, I have a new source. This source is great. Squirrel Roz. She used to be gchq. Now she lives in Virginia. Supposedly retired, by the way. I kept making mistake. The prince, who was not actually the crown prince, he just calls himself that. He lives in Maryland and he's had his Potomac house up for sale for a while until this whole thing kicked off. Maybe he's taken off the market, but from what the sources say is he wanted to go visit Trump at Mar A Lago, and Trump's like, nah, I don't want to see you. So that guy. And I don't even know how he.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, that. That's a good sign.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, so that is a good sign. And then from Lex, one other thing. I said, hey, man, what about the water? He said, yeah, the water is. It's been a problem for decades. You know, it rains. It's like, they're not. They're not. They're not. They're not having huge water issues. There's always been management issues of the water. But it's purely the economics. The economics are the problem. And you can't necessarily solve that with a new leader.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, you can't solve it at all. It's like people expect when Trump got into prices all fall, wasn't going to happen.

[Adam Curry]

I do have some interesting news on that, but let's go to your other Iran clips.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I got. Just before we play the PBS clip, which is the first, at least they recognize that something's going on as opposed to the other networks. I want to play. This was from a podcast. And this is. And it includes this guy, Pepe Escobar. You know him, right?

[Adam Curry]

He's been around for 100 years. Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

He's been around forever. Works for RT.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

So you can expect him to have nothing but solid stuff. And he's. He's got. He's on this. He's on this podcast, and he starts interviewing the podcaster who he thinks is in Tehran. And he's gonna tell us that nothing's going on because pop.

[Adam Curry]

And this is coming from.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's nothing going on. In fact, there's a bunch of these podcasts out there that counter all the other podcasts, and they say, hey, I'm here. Nothing is going on. This is bull crap. This is just. This is just.

[Adam Curry]

Wait, wait, let me get this straight. This is Pepe Escobar, and he. And he's talking to someone he thinks is in Tehran or someone thinks he's in Tehran.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, Pepe thinks the guy that's doing the podcast is in Tehran.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

And so Pepe turns around, says, let me interview you for a second, because that's just me, the first. And I forget this guy's name is Nemo.

[Adam Curry]

Got an exclusive.

[John C. Dvorak]

His name is Nimrod or something. I can't remember his name.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, all right.

[John C. Dvorak]

So this. This is kind of amusing because the guy's not in Tehran.

[Adam Curry]

Nima, you are in Tehran. Correct? Me, if I'm wrong, there are no protests in Tehran, number one. Right, Right. Me, put it this way, leading the witness. I am right now.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm not in Tehran. No, I'm not in Tehran, but I came to the southwest of Iran in the state called Khuzestan for 10 days.

[Adam Curry]

I arrived in Khuzestan.

[John C. Dvorak]

I was. Yeah, exactly in the heart of that. Wow.

[Adam Curry]

Wow.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let me, let me see. I, I got here in on.

[Adam Curry]

It was on December 20, if I'm.

[John C. Dvorak]

Not in 26, if I'm not mistaken, for 10 days I was in Tehran, Okay. And before I started, what was happening in the mainstream media and basically somehow in the alternative media, the coverage of what has happened in. What has happened in Iran, what is.

[Adam Curry]

Happening right now in Iran is somehow.

[John C. Dvorak]

Exaggerated, as though that all these protesters on the street, you know, coming out and they want to do regime change and all of that, it's nonsense.

[Adam Curry]

Huh? Okay, Nima. Wow, wow, wow. You're not there. Wow, that's amazing. Wow, that's so good.

[John C. Dvorak]

I just found that to be hilarious.

[Adam Curry]

That is good.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Great podcast. This podcast, Industrial Empire, sounds like our.

[Adam Curry]

Episode number one through ten on Skype back in the day.

[John C. Dvorak]

And by the way, if they, if they cut off the Internet, what's this guy, what's the nimrod guy doing broadcast? How's he getting his, how's he getting it out?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right, so here's the PBS report, which does discuss it, and I think it would. Then they had good, good visuals and so I was kind of surprised.

[Adam Curry]

And tonight's other headlines. Tensions are escalating in Iran as protests near a second week. Today, Iran's attorney general warned that protesters could face the death penalty. President Trump has warned of retribution if peaceful protesters are met with violence. Despite efforts to clamp down on dissent, demonstrations have grown fueled by anger with the hard line ruling regime and the worsening economy. Human rights watchers say at least 72 people have been killed and more than 2,000 detained since the protests began. Wow. Just a top line surface report from pbs. Not much else.

[John C. Dvorak]

At least it's something.

[Adam Curry]

Here's what the President said.

[John C. Dvorak]

Iran's in big trouble. It looks to me that the people are taking over certain cities that nobody thought were really possible just a few weeks ago. We're watching the situation very carefully. I've made the statement very strongly that if they start killing people like they have in the past, we will get involved. We'll be hitting them very hard where it hurts. And that doesn't mean boots on the ground. But it means hitting them very, very.

[Adam Curry]

Hard where it hurts now, where does it hurt? Very, very hard. For Iran, the only place can be the oil. That's the only thing they've got, you know. And by the way, I don't know.

[John C. Dvorak]

What he's going to do.

[Adam Curry]

All of this oil and Iran and Venezuela and Hezbollah. From what I understand, Hezbollah is one of the biggest drug networks. It's all intertwined, it's all related. Probably the only people not involved in drugs are Russia. I wonder, can you get good drugs in Russia? Does anybody know?

[John C. Dvorak]

There was a, there was an interesting comment somebody made as watching a guys do analysis of the cocaine trafficking. No, it's the guy. He was. Guy was interviewed by. What show was this? The guy who's the head of Columbia Petro.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, he did a long interview. I couldn't clip it because it was all in subtitles.

[Adam Curry]

I have the, I have the summer.

[John C. Dvorak]

Play the summary and then I'll tell you what I heard that.

[Adam Curry]

No, it's a written summary. I have a written summary that someone sent me.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, a couple of things came up in the conversation. One, he said that the Venezuelans had already, he says those boats that were going to, that they were blowing up, he says was. He didn't like the idea. He says that none of that stuff was going to the United States. He says that Venezuela has long since stopped shipping anything to the United States because they, they, they put a clamp as an agreement. So the cocaine use in the United States is down, he says, but he says is way up in Europe. In Europe and Australia.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, Europe is, it's now so cheap. It's, the market has just been flooded with cocaine.

[John C. Dvorak]

And he says and even in Russia they're starting to use it now. But he said, but Europe was the thing. And which follows exactly what we've been saying on this show, which. They're blowing up these boats to screw with Europe.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

But I guess they're still getting so much of it. Doesn't make, no one's noticing.

[Adam Curry]

Well, but, but no, no, the, it's, we're screwing with Europe because the prices dropped. The kids were here and I asked them about it. You know, I won't say that they're cocaine users, but they're young, they live in Europe. Oh no, it's so much, it's, it's, you know, you can, it's a dime bag is a dime bag. Literally a dime is so cheap. So I got a summary.

[John C. Dvorak]

So wait, let's stop there for a Second, and what does this mean if you have the whole continent coked up?

[Adam Curry]

Well, there's no. First of all, less money is flowing to the city of London, North Sea nexus, drug money networks, less money because there's just too much of it in the eu. And yeah, you know what? Everybody needs to be coked up in Europe and I'll tell you why. I have a report. Hold on, this is a. Where is it? A report from a Dutch guy. Hold on a second. Where did I file that under? Hold on, I got it here somewhere. This was doing the rounds here. Dutch guy explaining the housing problem in the Netherlands.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is how the gray replacement is.

[Adam Curry]

Taking shape in the Netherlands.

[John C. Dvorak]

If you're white and you can't find a house in Holland in I have a life hack for you. Just learn a bit of Arabic and go to the next municipality next door. A Dutch newspaper brought the following. Thousands and thousands of Dutch people would figuratively kill to get this apartment. It's a beautiful studio in the center.

[Adam Curry]

Of Amsterdam, one of the most coveted.

[John C. Dvorak]

Areas in all of Europe. But this Syrian man doesn't really bat an eye. He got this house from the government, but he doesn't even live there because his wife also got a house from the government and it uses the live there instead while renting out the studio at the same time. The Syrian gentleman pays €700 of rent each month for his studio in the very center of Amsterdam. But he then goes out into the public markets and rents the studio out to other people for more than double more than €1500amonth. But that's not even the worst story yet. This Syrian man in Rotterdam got a very big three bedroom apartment of course from the government. He's 20 years old and he, and he lives alone in the apartment. So one might think, why does a 20 year old Syrian man need a three bedroom apartment in Rotterdam? What's he going to use the three bedrooms for? Well, the government said the Syrian man had the right to three bedrooms because there was an outlook for reuniting with his family. The newspaper then asked the Syrian man if he had a family and he answered, he doesn't even have a girlfriend, no wife and no kids. And apart from the apartment, he also gets government benefits checks every month because he's not declared okay to work yet. However, he tells the newspaper that he does work on the black market for cash. Besides, he rents out the other two rooms to other migrants for over a thousand euros per room per month. And all of the meantime, the Dutch first channel brings a new story. That more and more Dutch people over 30 are living with their parents amidst the housing crisis. The story says that Dutch people wait with getting children because they simply don't have a house for themselves. Yet at the same time, the Syrian migrants get free houses because their wife might come, but they don't even have a wife. It's complete madness. And this is a clear example of how the great replacement is government policy in Europe. It's not an accident. It's not because the people are stupid. It's on purpose.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. And so this is why you do a lot of coke, like life's not worth living here anymore. The government is corrupt, they give everything to migrants and you can't get a house. So, hey, look at this cheap snow over here. I think I'll make myself feel better. That would be the way it works in my mind. And at the same time, it's screwing over the drug money networks. But listen to this. So as we played on the last show, we had a boots on the ground report from some other network. Can't remember someone who was there. So President Trump talked with. With Petro of Colombia. And here's the rundown as I've received it. It lasted 42 minutes. And apparently the Colombian president agreed to eight points. An eight point plan. One, implement bombings against FARC and ELN dissonance. So FARC is the. That's the big. The big drug boys. This is my favorite start.

[John C. Dvorak]

They're revolutionaries too.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. Start fumigation with glyphosate on the crops. That's a great idea. I never even considered that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, he pushes back on that one.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, okay. Lift the suspension of extradition of drug lords. Guarantee free, transparent and secure elections for the opposition. Okay. Collaborate in the restoration of Venezuela. They are bordering countries. Strengthen security on the Colombia Venezuela border to combat groups like the ELN when they attempt to cross the border, fleeing the new order imposed by the United States. Stop persecuting the opposition. Okay, boss, we promise and peacefully and quietly rightly abandoned the Casa de Narino on August of 20th. What is CASA de Narino?

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know.

[Adam Curry]

Let me find out what that is. On August 6, 2026. Is that the. The government house? What Is that official? Yes, the official residence of the President of Colombia. So there's definitely stuff afoot? It's definitely stuff happening. And we're not being told?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, of course not. Well, and nobody's. Nobody in our media will do any work because they're too busy harping on a woman in Minnesota as opposed to the Dead kids in Chicago and Oakland.

[Adam Curry]

What is the Chicago kill list at Chicago? No. Shot clock. I think it's called shot clock. I think it's the shot clock. Yeah, yeah. Heyjackass.com let's take a look. Oh, it's better than I thought. January to date, shot and killed 8. Shot and wounded 40 total shot, 48 total homicides, 10. So it's better than I. Than I thought. Let's see how.

[John C. Dvorak]

What was the 20 total homicides? Includes knifings.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

And other knifings. Knifings.

[Adam Curry]

Knifings. Yes. Yes. Let me 20, 25, Chicago. Here's the list. 433 people killed, 15, 92 wounded. How you doing, Darren? You enjoying that shy rack there? I do have. I do. So this is the whole dimension A, dimension B. And it's. It's crazy to hear all these people talking about. Well, she had a. Whenever someone starts with, well, you can clearly see by the wheels turned that way. It's like, okay, you're just trying to make something go your way by a little piece of video. And there's all kinds of different angles and it is just. We love over analyzing. It's like Charlie Kirk. It was the exploding microphone. It could never have been a 30 odd six. There's no blood. There's blood. It's only out of the fry over and over and over and over.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's why you wear a white T shirt.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, so. So there's a couple different angles here. Actually, I'd like to start with the fraud because that of course is now kind of being downplayed or is just, you know, it's not making much noise as it should. And there was a hearing in the House. This is Minnesota Representative Robbins talking about the way fraud was handled in Minnesota.

[John C. Dvorak]

Representative Robins, do you have any examples of how the waltz administration blocked investigators.

[Adam Curry]

From moving forward with high priority fraud investigations?

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Yes, we do. Mr. Chairman. I have met with whistleblowers and gotten documents from them about how after the original CCAP whistleblower report came out in March and April of 2019, subsequent to that, there was an Office of Inspector General within DHS that had investigative authority to do surveillance warrants and seize electronics and they were shut down, they were told they could no longer do criminal investigations. They were told they could no longer meet with the Bureau of Criminal Apprehension agents that were assigned to them without supervisor's approval. And instead when they found one of the other members talked about how they changed the language, they went from calling it fraud to calling it over. Billing and they created an over billing committee to all the investigative agents. Now couldn't do criminal investigations, they had.

[John C. Dvorak]

To flag issue over billing.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

And then a committee would decide if any of that over billing would be recouped.

[Adam Curry]

Committee by.

[John C. Dvorak]

Appointed by Waltz?

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

No, appointed within dhs.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, appointed by the own bureaucracy.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Yes. So they shut down criminal investigations. They created a committee to call it over billing and decide if overbilling investigations would even try to.

[Adam Curry]

This is fantastic. That's the way you do it. It's not fraud, it's overbilling. So Scott Besant, our Treasury Secretary, comes onto the scene and he did an interview with the Rufo show. Rufo. I think it's Rufo and something Rufo. It's on. The Blaze sat down for like a half hour interview and he laid it out very clearly and he's not messing around. So, Chris, first, thanks. Thanks for having me and thanks for breaking this story because it's clearly something that's been going on and suppressed for so long and you could see that the people of Minnesota have been carrying.

[John C. Dvorak]

This burden and they almost seem.

[Adam Curry]

Say what?

[John C. Dvorak]

Chris Ruffo.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Chris Ruffo. Yeah. Believed. But what we found, two things really. Three One, this as you reported this waste, fraud and abuse in the system bigger than anyone thought. And we'll see where that goes. Two, the leakage. And how does this get out of the country? Either if you are on public assistance and you are sending money out of the country, one of two things must be true. You are getting too much assistance because you have excess funds to feed yourself, your family, food, clothing, or you've got stolen money and you're sending that out. But in either case, money needs to stay in the US or your benefits need to be cut. Three, three, how can we use the investigations in Minnesota as a model for what's happened and push it out to the other 49 states? Because Minnesota is likely the most egregious. Maybe not. We'll see.

[John C. Dvorak]

I have an open mind.

[Adam Curry]

But the scale, just because of the population sizes, California, Illinois, New York, that what's going on here is a microcosm of what's going on there. And it's like someone on the panel said today, benefits have been turned into businesses. It is a cottage industry of teaching people how to form multiple llc, how to game the system, how to move money around and we'll see where the money goes. I'm here because what treasury does is follow the money.

[John C. Dvorak]

We follow the money and we have done it with the Mafia where we were able to take them down.

[Adam Curry]

Mexican drug cartels and now these Somali fraudsters. And we can always do it. We'll see what kind of recoveries we can get for the American people. Yeah, I like it.

[John C. Dvorak]

It sounds like he does mean business.

[Adam Curry]

I like it. I like it. He's talking about the multiple LLCs. They know exactly how this is being done. 501 C3s. They're going after that. They're going after all these financial networks. You know, know, you always complain about Congress not doing anything. They're not. They're full of crap. It's all their. Their moments. Their. And I think that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. The clip you played earlier was with Comer. Yeah, my favorite.

[Adam Curry]

Well, let's go to Margaret also.

[John C. Dvorak]

But by the way, before you do that, I want to mention something that. That Besson did. And I'm noticing this. It's a rhetorical trick. You might start picking up on it where you say the following. The trick goes like this. Yeah. And there's two things I want to talk about. I mean, maybe three.

[Adam Curry]

Three. Three. He only mentioned two.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, then you only mentioned two. But. But they, but they're always doing this. I got. I got two things to tell you, actually. Three.

[Adam Curry]

But at least.

[John C. Dvorak]

Where is this? And I'm hearing it over and over and over.

[Adam Curry]

Well, at least it's milieu. At least he didn't do. I got two things to tell you. One, and B. Like Biden did. At least he's not doing it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Biden. Yeah. One in B.

[Adam Curry]

So the representative, Ilhan Omar, is out on the trail to, of course, play all of this down. And she showed up this morning with Margaret Brennan.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Well, the administration argues that they have to do it because the state failed to. Right. The federal government and the state have been working peacefully together and have brought justice.

[Adam Curry]

I love how she does.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

To these 87 people that you've described. None of the search that they have.

[Adam Curry]

What. What did you call.

[John C. Dvorak]

She swallows. Your words.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Is conducted. Has produced any sort of criminal activity. They haven't been able to charge anyone as. As of yet. The administration also announced they're going to cut food stamps to Minnesota because they say some of the food stamp money had been embed. Bezel, here are you. And those are the things that are being litigated. And it is, again, unconstitutional for them to do so.

[Adam Curry]

Is it unconstitutional?

[John C. Dvorak]

How's it unconstitutional Talking about food stamps.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Aren'T in the Constitution and unconstitutional for them to do so. Is it. Are you confident that the fraud that has been discussed, discovered is no longer.

[Adam Curry]

Being conducted oh, that's a good point. The troll. I'm saying, she. She has a little bit of a Christopher Walken type cadence. That's. That's actually a. Yeah, maybe I can.

[John C. Dvorak]

See it a little bit.

[Adam Curry]

A little bit.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

You're confident that the fraud that has been discussed is no longer being conducted? Now, is there any justification for saying this food stamp money is. Is somehow being misused? There are ways to investigate fraud, which we have been doing in Minnesota, which the federal government has been doing under the Biden administration. There is no reason for them to use this level of rhetoric. There is no reason for them to fully stop.

[Adam Curry]

Who cares about rhetoric? What do you. Rhetoric is just words, lady.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Funding these programs. The only reason they are doing that is for PR purposes, and it is harming our state. It is harming my constituency, and it is creating the kind of chaos and confusion that no one needs in this moment.

[Adam Curry]

Why doesn't the DOJ just go after the whole brother story? That's the strongest position.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, the Congress. There was a. There was a meeting of the Oversight Committee. It was on C Span. By the way, your YouTube TV now, has you noticed this, too?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

They have C span 1, C span 2, and the rare C span 3.

[Adam Curry]

Probably save C Span's butt because that was paid by cable companies and they. They don't want to pay for it anym. So it's probably a cash infusion for C Span from Google.

[John C. Dvorak]

That would be my guess.

[Adam Curry]

So. Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Anyway, so they. So I'm watching the. I just. You turn it on. I mean, it's like watching a slow train wreck. You can't really turn it off, so you're stuck there watching. And I'm watching Nancy Mace.

[Adam Curry]

Great. Nancy. Is that her name? Is it Nancy?

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't think it's Nancy Mace, but.

[Adam Curry]

She is now Nancy Mace.

[John C. Dvorak]

Mace and Luna are both on this committee with and is headed by Comer. So we know this is kind of the Oversight Committee. So they're. And this was one of the subcommittees, and they're going after. They're making a big fuss. But they passed it off. No, no, no. We just got to go to the Ethics Committee. We can't do it here. They're passing off the guy, the one congressman who's beating his wife, and they wanted to investigate that. And then Omar. And Mace is the one who says, hey, you know, this has got to be investigated. She married her brother. She should probably be deported.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, but that's the Department of Justice. Who cares? Congress should just be doing what they're supposed to do what they're doing.

[John C. Dvorak]

Somebody should do something about this. About this fraud that she committed to become an American citizen.

[Adam Curry]

Let's go on to the real fake news, according to Elon, is that Nick Shirley was all fake. Was all fake. Fake.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Because the administration and many conservative allies in the administration argue that this is still ongoing. There was that conservative influencer who went out and posted this video that went viral alleging that daycare.

[Adam Curry]

How do they come up with. Just as a point of view. Question, is Nick Shirley a conservative? I mean, is he wearing a MAGA hat? Is he a registered Republican? I mean, what.

[John C. Dvorak]

Not that I know of.

[Adam Curry]

Just like a kid with an older handler. Dude named Dave who is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. A YouTuber.

[Adam Curry]

Well, we don't know where Dave came.

[John C. Dvorak]

From, but Dave could be a conservative. Dave could be a plant. They never. He could be CIA for all these.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

That conservative influencer who went out and posted this video that went viral alleging that daycare facilities were pocketing public funds. Yeah. And as you know, he went hours where.

[Adam Curry]

What was that?

[John C. Dvorak]

I couldn't. I didn't hear it.

[Adam Curry]

Listen to it.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Pocketing public funds. Yeah. And as you know, he went out.

[Adam Curry]

That's a bad laugh tale.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Facilities were pocketing public funds. And as you know, he went hours. Where these businesses were not operating. Yep. CBS went out and did it. Don't again create the level of confusion and chaos.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, so CBS now says it's fake. Okay.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

That it's not necessary in a moment when we are trying to deal with a serious problem that needs serious people to be able to address it. But do you think there was no recorded evidence of fraud according to the CBS investigation that was conducted?

[Adam Curry]

But really, what I didn't. I mean, I saw a whole. That I didn't. Did CBS conclude that? That's news to me.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

But do you think there was no recorded evidence of fraud according to the CBS investigation?

[John C. Dvorak]

No recording.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

But Governor Walls didn't do anything. Not run for reelection. He dropped out of the race because of all of that. Because he wants to focus on defending our state.

[Adam Curry]

He wants to focus on getting out.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Of Dodge, focus on defending our state and not defending a seat. Do you think there has been a sufficient level of accountability and ownership of the failure to have oversight here? Do you think this ends. That is what we want. We want to collaborately work with the administration to try to make sure that there is no fraud that's being perpetuated on our state. What we do not want.

[Adam Curry]

I love that. Fraud perpetuated on our state no, it.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Is your state fraud that's being perpetuated on our state.

[Adam Curry]

In our state, what we do not.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Want is the level of terror, of confusion, of chaos that is being created without any results in this moment.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right, well, she makes a good point about no results.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, that's true. Well, here's the Ethics Committee thing that you just brought up.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Very quickly before I let you go.

[Adam Curry]

Because it's not that important, you know, Ethics Committee is not important.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Very quickly before I let you go, the chair, Oversight Committee said that he wants to refer you to the Ethics Committee. I've been referred, like, a hundred times. So he's looking at your husband's income and net worth. He said it was tied to private equity investment funds. But he seems to be insinuating that you personally are tied into this welfare scam. I mean, ever since I've gotten to Congress, they. They have been doing these sort of weird ethics investigations. None of them have yielded anything because I have been as transparent as I can be, and there is nothing wrong with any documentation that I have ever provided to the federal government.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, well, there she goes. She's as transparent as she can be. So now we go, because I, I do have some clips of this stuff to the mayor of Minneapolis, who, of course, showed up on Pooper show State of the Union this morning as well. We have all the. The Sunday morning shows. Thank you very much, Steve.

[John C. Dvorak]

Welcome back to State of the Union. Joining us now to respond, Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fry and Minneapolis Police Chief Brian o'.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Hare.

[John C. Dvorak]

Mayor Fry, your response to what you just heard from Secretary Noem. She invoked you.

[Adam Curry]

I have those clips later if we want to listen to him.

[John C. Dvorak]

You by name. That was some wild and crazy stuff, you know, Sounds like she. Does he got him. Does he have an arrow in it through his head when he said that?

[Adam Curry]

Listen to what he says now, though. It's good.

[John C. Dvorak]

That was some wild and crazy stuff. You know, it sounds like she doesn't believe a single word that she is saying right now. And I don't know if Donald Trump was drinking a glass of water if.

[Adam Curry]

She'D actually be able to. To speak, because here's the thing.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, cute.

[Adam Curry]

He's a ventriloquist. Now.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know if Donald Trump should.

[Adam Curry]

Actually be able to speak, because here's the thing.

[John C. Dvorak]

She's calling Minneapolis like this dystopian hellhole.

[Adam Curry]

You know how many shootings we've had.

[John C. Dvorak]

So far this year? Two.

[Adam Curry]

And one of them was ice.

[John C. Dvorak]

Two shootings in a large city so far. This entire year.

[Adam Curry]

And one of them is ice.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is a safe city. Ice and Kristi Noem and everything they're doing is making it far less safe.

[Adam Curry]

Well, listen, you've had two shootings where a week and a half in, you know, don't make it sound like it was a whole year. You know, it's like, yeah, that's a good way.

[John C. Dvorak]

He did, he did that well.

[Adam Curry]

He does it very well.

[John C. Dvorak]

And by the way, during this time of year when it's frozen solid outside, very few, you know, there's not a.

[Adam Curry]

Lot of, there's not a lot of killing going. People don't want to kill when it's cold.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's too much work.

[Adam Curry]

Here comes the dimension. B Zapruder analysis.

[John C. Dvorak]

I want you to respond to what she said about you telling ICE to get the F out. She says you and the leaders of Minneapolis have been demonizing ICE officers. And it is true that you've been.

[Adam Curry]

Critical of Secretary Noem for her quick.

[John C. Dvorak]

Characterization of the incident. But you also said on Wednesday, quote, this was a federal agent recklessly using power, power that resulted in somebody dying. Does your rhetoric need to change?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah, I said this was a.

[John C. Dvorak]

Federal agent recklessly using power that ended.

[Adam Curry]

Up in somebody dying.

[John C. Dvorak]

Because that was a federal agent recklessly.

[Adam Curry]

Using power that ended up in somebody dying. It's exactly what happened. I mean, am I biased in this?

[John C. Dvorak]

Of course. And I'm biased because I got two eyes.

[Adam Curry]

Anybody can see these videos.

[John C. Dvorak]

Anybody can see that this victim is not a domestic terrorist. I mean, my goodness, she's like doing a, a three or a four or five point turn. This looks like somebody that's trying to get out of there.

[Adam Curry]

If doing a three point turn or.

[John C. Dvorak]

A four point turn is a domestic.

[Adam Curry]

Terrorist, make up your mind.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wife is a criminal every single day. Where's this three point turn thing anyway?

[Adam Curry]

It's a four point turn. What turn?

[John C. Dvorak]

She's just taking off like a rocket.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, but this is the dementia A demench B stick terrorist.

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean, my goodness, she's like doing a three or a four or five point point turn. This looks like somebody that's trying to get out of there.

[Adam Curry]

If doing a three point turn or.

[John C. Dvorak]

A four point turn is a domestic terrorist and my wife is a criminal every single day. This does not make sense.

[Adam Curry]

We've got to be operating from a.

[John C. Dvorak]

Point of have this investigation.

[Adam Curry]

It should be a neutral, unbiased investigation where you get the facts, you know, and by the way, I shouldn't be the one conducting the investigation, nor Should Kristi Noem.

[John C. Dvorak]

But you should have an entity that is able to do it with some common sense and operating in reality.

[Adam Curry]

What he's referring.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm sorry, the FBI is doing the investigation, not Kristi Noem.

[Adam Curry]

No, but this guy, he's nuts. Let's go to. I'm gonna go back in time.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, there's a lot of evidence that he was involved. That. I think it was a law firm that was training these people to do the fraud. He may be a fraudster.

[Adam Curry]

Hmm. Interesting. I didn't know that that's possible. It seems like there were 280 people shot in 2025 in Minneapolis, which doesn't seem like a small number. Let's go back to Kristi Noem because he's referring to something that we brought up in the last episode, which is about the definition of domestic terrorists.

[John C. Dvorak]

You said within hours of her being killed, you said that she was a domestic terrorist. How do you define domestic? Domestic terrorists?

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

She weaponized her vehicle to conduct an act of violence against a law enforcement officer and the public. How can they doing that?

[John C. Dvorak]

How can you assert with certainty that she was trying to hurt the officer as opposed to she was trying to flee the scene?

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

If you look at what the definition of domestic terrorism is, it completely fits the situation on the ground this.

[Adam Curry]

Okay. So I looked it up and figured that would be worth it because we talked about it. The definition.

[John C. Dvorak]

We're one of the few shows that actually does the work.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. 18 U.S. code 2, 3, 3 1, brackets. 5. In order to be classified as domestic terrorism, an act must meet all three of the following conditions. Okay, so count them. Okay, okay, okay. The act itself. The act itself must involve acts dangerous to human life and must be. Check. And must be a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any individual state. I think we gotta check on that because.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Adam Curry]

You're hampering the work of a federal agent. The location. This is the second criteria. Must occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States. Okay, I think. And here comes the intent. The acts must appear to be intended to accomplish at least one. One of the following. Multiple choice. Hands on.

[John C. Dvorak]

We have another group of things.

[Adam Curry]

Hands on.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's only three, but now we got three with sub.

[Adam Curry]

No, no. Well, it's three with subs. Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sub categories. Act.

[Adam Curry]

The location and the intent. Hands on buzzers, candidates. Here we go. Intimidate or coerce a civilian population. I don't. Don't. I don't think it qualifies.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm not catching that one I'm not getting that.

[Adam Curry]

Either influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think there's. I think you could check that box. I think she was tracking these guys. She was blocking their work. She was intimidating the officers.

[Adam Curry]

No, no, it's in. No, we already had. Intimidate or coercive civilian population Influence the policy of a government. I don't think it checks those boxes. But the third box. Affect the conduct of governments by. By mass destruction, assassination or kidnapping. I think all three are kind of iffy, but affecting the conduct of the government. Mass destruction.

[John C. Dvorak]

But does it have to match all three?

[Adam Curry]

No, one of. But one of those. One of those is actually four. So now.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, there you go again. Now you just did what the rhetorical trick was. I said no, it was three, but now there's four.

[Adam Curry]

No, it's three criteria. Criteria. And of each criterium, it has to be one of those. So it's subcategories.

[John C. Dvorak]

So it has to be one of the subcategories.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, it has to be all three of the main categories and one of the subcategories. And the intent, I think is the one that is questionable. Acts must appear to be intended to accomplish at least one of the. Oh, it's actually three. I'm sorry. Intimidate or coerce. I know. Intimidate or coerce a civilian population. No. Influence the policy of a. Governed by intimidation or coercion. Yes, I think you're right. She was trying to influence the policy of the government that is rounding up illegals by intimidation. And I think intimidation is there. And then affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination or kidnapping. I don't think it hits that now.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, it was number two.

[Adam Curry]

Number two. That's right. You're moving on to the next round.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Ground.

[Adam Curry]

There is of course, no specific federal crime called domestic terrorism. So you can only prosecute for murder, arson, weapons offenses, et cetera. And it is indeed the Federal Bureau of Investigation whose jurisdiction this falls under. So I think they can make a case. Unless you believe in the three point turn theory.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

If you look at what the definition of domestic terrorism is, it completely fits the situation on the ground. This is, as you saw in the video that we released just 48 hours after this incident showed that this officer was hit by her vehicle, she weaponized it, and he defended his life and those colleagues around him and the public.

[John C. Dvorak]

The question is, I don't doubt. My position is I wasn't there. I didn't see it. Who's this some people. Jake Tapper.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, Tapper. Not Pooper.

[John C. Dvorak]

So what is he? He's says. What is he? He's not interviewing her anymore. He's part of it. What kind of a question was that?

[Adam Curry]

Let's do it again.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

And he defended his life and those colleagues around him and the public.

[John C. Dvorak]

The question is. I don't doubt. My position is I wasn't. Your position? Who gives a crap about your position? What do you mean, my position? Trying to hit him. Hold on a second. Let's stop the presses here. You can't do that. My position. Is this a political debate? This is your position.

[Adam Curry]

It's his position. I'm telling you.

[John C. Dvorak]

How's it. Why does he have a position? He's supposed to be reporting. He's doing an interview of somebody, but now he has a position. So this is a partisan interview?

[Adam Curry]

Gambling. Come on. It's cnn. Yes. That's the worst. That's the worst.

[John C. Dvorak]

They gotta get. The Ellisons have got to take this operation over sooner than later.

[Adam Curry]

Let's continue.

[John C. Dvorak]

Some people say no, she was clearly trying to move her car and flee and get away. I don't know. What I'm saying is, how do you know? How can you assert for a fact within hours before any investigation? This is what happened.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

The facts of the situation are that the vehicle was weaponized and it attacked the law enforcement officer. He defended himself and he defended those individuals around him. That is the. The definition. When there is something that is weaponized to use against the public in law enforcement, that is an act of domestic terrorism happened in our. In our shores. It happened here in our country. You don't get to change the facts just because you don't like them. We will continue to look at this individual and what her motivations were. We know that there was. Throughout that morning, she had harassed and impeded law enforcement operations. That raises the suspicion level with all of these law enforcement officers as far as paying attention to what her capacity is. And as you see on the videos, and they've proven out that this law enforcement officer took the action that his training prepared him for. And he worked to make sure that he could save his own life and those around him.

[Adam Curry]

Now, let's just look at the true culprits here because these are. It's first, the whole. The whole thing is sad. It's sad all around. But these are people who've been mind controlled by their elected representatives. This is the Lieutenant Governor of Minnesota, Lieutenant Governor Flanagan.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

If you are sick and tired.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wait a minute. Lieutenant Governor of Minnesota. That was Ellison. Keith Ellison.

[Adam Curry]

No, no, I. I'm sorry. Not the lieutenant. She is. Wait, I have it here. Where was she?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, she's the assess. She's the, like the under. Governor. Governor or something like that.

[Adam Curry]

She's the lieutenant governor. Governor.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay. Oh, Keith Ellison's the attorney General.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. Okay, there we go. We're sorry. All your points are wiped off the board now. Everything you got right about domestic terrorism, you lose those points.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, I can start over and still.

[Adam Curry]

Beat you going to the culprit. The type of people who.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, this woman. This is the clip. This clip was before our last show. This is when I brought it up about them inciting. Yes, this woman is. Is disgusting.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

If you are sick and tired of your government being ransacked by Donald Trump and his minions, literally taking away health care from your neighbors, stealing food off of the table from seniors and children, and generally being uncool with the fact that our neighbors are being disappeared. P.S. without due process, it is just called kidnapping. Then show up and use. Use your voice, put your body on the line and use non violent direct action, which is one of the most important tools in our toolbox, to say, I am not okay. I will not go silently into the night. I will join arms with my friends, with my neighbors, and with people who generally believe that folks should be able to afford their lives, should be treated with dignity and as human beings.

[Adam Curry]

The. The key phrase there is put your body on the line. Yeah, that's what she.

[John C. Dvorak]

What kind of governance is this where you're encouraging. What kind of government do you have in Minnesota where you're encouraging people to go out and riot?

[Adam Curry]

The only kind I can imagine is one that is thoroughly corrupt all the way through. And she must be corrupt as well. Why else would you do that unless you're afraid that the gig is up. By the way, there's a great miniseries, I think it's on Netflix. It's called Struck by Lightning. It's like three or four episodes about James Garfield, who was elected president almost kind of as a fluke, and he was assassinated three months into his presidency. That shows you. And that was 1948.

[John C. Dvorak]

18. Garfield, 1800.

[Adam Curry]

1848. I think. Think the corruption, because that's what it. All the corruption of New York and, you know, the. The Port Authority and just all of these. Everybody. All corrupt, all drunk, all womanizing. And you just sit there and you watch. You go like, it's only gotten worse. It's just. They cover it up better.

[John C. Dvorak]

They do a better job of covering it up. That's the idea. You learn something, you learn something.

[Adam Curry]

It's a great, great series. Tina and I were just like, holy crap. No wonder we're in such dire straits. Anyway, we'll go back to.

[John C. Dvorak]

The country's always been this way.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, well, all countries are. I mean, yes, all countries are. We just have prettier politicians generally these days. So back to our Ice Barbie and Jake Tapper. And he's gonna do something. A nice little trick they do over there at cnn.

[John C. Dvorak]

I know that you'd like to make me the topic of this and not what happened, but I did ask a Democratic senator just a few minutes ago about AOC's comments, and I don't actually even know what you're talking about when I ask questions.

[Adam Curry]

Hold on. Maybe we should play that first. Hold on a second.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I'm not following this at all. The officer appeared to have fired three shots. The first one through the front windshield, the second and third through the side window. What is the justification for the second and third given that the officer was out of harm's way?

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

You're watching the same videos that I am, correct?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Yeah, you're watching the same one. So you see how quickly the situation unfolded, how the officer was in front of the vehicle when she sped off, how she ran into him, and how he had to take quick action based on his training to defend himself and his colleagues around once he's out of office. That's very clear and factual from the videos that you can see. It's nobody's interpretation. We don't get to change it because we can see it with our eyes and we can build on the evidence that we have on the ground.

[Adam Curry]

You see? See how everyone is saying we can see it with their eyes. I have eyes. I can see it. I saw it with my eyes. I saw something different. I mean, what color is the dress?

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

The question is because the politics doesn't fit somebody. And what they're trying to do to continue to defraud people in their city and in their state, continue to take advantage of individuals and to allow criminals.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know what you're talking about.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

That's what Mayor Frey and Fry and that's what Mayor Governor Walls are doing every day by diverting the attention to trying to attack a law enforcement officer that they're allowing the criminals to go by without examination.

[John C. Dvorak]

Are you saying that the second and third shots. Because you just said it happened very quickly. Are you saying the second and third shots.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

I said watch the videos. Watch how quickly this unfolded and know that law enforcement officers every day in this country are in difficult situations where they have to make split second decisions to protect themselves, the public and their colleagues and that they have to rely on their training. That's exactly what this officer did. And I know that the left and I know the crazy activists in this country that are trying to undermine mine, our way of life will attack and try to destroy a law enforcement.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm asking a question.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

It's just unacceptable and we're not going to let that.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm asking a question is when he's out of harm's way, what is the reason for the second and third shot through the window? When he is out, he's not in the line of sight of the car.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

This investigation will continue to unfold and more and more information will come. What I would appreciate is everybody I.

[John C. Dvorak]

Know, I know exactly what she should have said. She should have said he already hit her with the car. He had no idea if she was going to back up and run him over. He didn't have that much time to think about it because it had been dead. Could she have backed up, she already hit him. How much would it take for her to back up and run him over? He didn't have any time to think about this. It was not worth taking a chance. Can you tell me, Jake, could she not have run him over?

[Adam Curry]

No, because she was a poet. Poets don't do that. So I don't know what the AOC refer, the reference is, but he's going to call a, call it an equivalency.

[John C. Dvorak]

Here and there really isn't an answer other than you saw the video.

[Adam Curry]

I want you to ask, I want.

[John C. Dvorak]

To ask a question about the rules of how law enforcement is allowed to engage with when feeling threatened, per your assertions.

[Adam Curry]

And by the way, he's gonna yip her on this one. She has no answer for it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Because I want to show some video to you right now and ask what is the appropriate response for the police officers in this situation?

[Adam Curry]

You know what he's showing?

[John C. Dvorak]

No. Probably this pepper Spring or January 6th.

[Adam Curry]

January 6th.

[John C. Dvorak]

Those are law enforcement officers being physically attacked by this standard. Would any of those officers be justified in shooting and killing the people causing them physical harm?

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Every single situation is going to rely on the situation those officers are on. But they know that when people are putting hands on them, when they are using weapons against them, when they are physically harming them, that they have the authority to arrest those individuals.

[John C. Dvorak]

The President pardoned every single one of those people.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

And make sure that they're getting justice for their actions going forward.

[John C. Dvorak]

President Trump pardoned every single one of.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Those people and every single one of these investigations comes in the full context of the situation on the ground.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, she, yeah, I agree.

[John C. Dvorak]

And she's not doing it well. But I mean, there's other ways. She should have just thrown the Ashley Babbitt thing right at him.

[Adam Curry]

That would have been good.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, that could been good. So. Well, there was one police officer that just shot an innocent woman who wasn't unarmed and wasn't hitting him, shot him dead. And he didn't get prosecuted, did he? Did he, Jake?

[Adam Curry]

Say her name, Jake. Say her name. Say her name.

[John C. Dvorak]

So he could have done, she could have done that. She could have pulled the Ashley Babbitt card. She could have also said, and if she was really a, if she was a JD Vancer or somebody who was quick on her feet, she would have said the following following. Well, those cops knew that those were FBI agencies, FBI guys beating him up. So they knew it was a wink, wink, nudge, nudge. They was, they weren't going to shoot them.

[Adam Curry]

You know what? You are now the new Kristi Noem. I hereby nominate you as director of.

[John C. Dvorak]

The it doesn't take a genius to have these answers.

[Adam Curry]

You would look good in the cowboy hat and the camo. You'd be great. Listen, Jake, Jake, we saw you at the birthday party of the assistant director of CIA. We know, we know what you're up to. We know whose team you're putting playing on. So we had to go to France 24 to get some of this information.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, there's a coalition of organizations and rights groups that are organized these demonstrations. The biggest one, the aclu, which most of our viewers will know, they're the main driving force behind it. But they have called for an entire weekend of process, process across the country. Around a thousand of them are so expected. There was one here in D.C. just down by the White House there a little earlier that we were at. But the big one here that we are expecting is going to be taking place on Sunday when protesters will be gathering near the National Mall before walking down towards the headquarters of ice, the Immigration Customs Enforcement that's part of the Department of Homeland Security. But the biggest one by far that we've seen on Saturday is in Minneapolis where that shooting of Renee Goode took place just a few days ago. There have been hundreds of protesters gathering, gathering in a Central park there before then moving on and marching through the streets along past the site of where Renee was fatally shot just a couple of days ago. People chanting her name shouting justice for Renee. And there's also a vigil being held there with a significant amount of flowers and candles being placed at the site where she was fatally shot. So there for now have been mostly peaceful. There have been a couple of pepper balls fired towards protesters that mainly though outside of an ice detention facility inside of Minneapolis, which has really become a flashpoint of these demonstrations as that is where these officers come face to face with the protesters who are protesting their stay in Minneapolis.

[Adam Curry]

The aclu, man, what happened to them? I remember when I used to.

[John C. Dvorak]

They were taken over by donate.

[Adam Curry]

I used to donate to them and I think it was was when President Trump put the. In hindsight, very smart travel restrictions on coming into the United States during COVID which immediately was called a Muslim ban. You hate Muslims. And that was the aclu. And then they called me and said, hey, how come you haven't donated? I said, well, are you supposed to organize protests? Is that your charter? Well, we have to. It's important. You remember that call?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. It was during the era of the show. You talked about it and you got all bent out of shape because you used to give him a lot of money, I guess a lot of money. Well, for you.

[Adam Curry]

Freeze my $10 for you.

[John C. Dvorak]

It was a lot of money.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, it was.

[John C. Dvorak]

So you're giving him a lot of money and they call in and bitching and moaning, you're not giving him more ten dollar bills.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

And the next thing you know you're complaining about it on the show. Of course I remember that.

[Adam Curry]

Okay. Oh man. Thought this was very funny. I guess I should really play the clip, the, the jingle. But we'll play this.

[John C. Dvorak]

Here's my question. Where is everybody?

[Adam Curry]

Hold on, let me, let me play the warning. This woman, this everybody needs to be warned before we play these kinds of.

[John C. Dvorak]

A clip from the View will be played. Shelter in place.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Let me say this, here's my question.

[John C. Dvorak]

Where is everybody?

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Where is everybody else? We come to everybody's aid. Yeah, we help everybody. NATO, they came and helped us after 9 11.

[John C. Dvorak]

Where is everybody? Because what did NATO do? What did NATO do for us after 9 11? Coming and help us. Come on. NATO, come on and help us. They helped us do what?

[Adam Curry]

Just listen to the clip.

[John C. Dvorak]

They came and helped us after 9 11. Where is everybody?

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Because where are you're worrying about Greenland right now?

[John C. Dvorak]

Because beyond.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

I'm not here for Greenland. But where is the government? We are. Do you realize we don't Have a government because we don't have all their power.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

What are you bitching about?

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Is a huge and should be our.

[John C. Dvorak]

Biggest bitch right now.

[Adam Curry]

It is because all of this is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Happening because there is no one doing checks and balances.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Where is the government? Why aren't they doing their job?

[John C. Dvorak]

And let me tell you, I feel like, you know, he hinted yesterday, okay.

[Adam Curry]

So she basically feels that NATO should come and help us. They need to save us. And they, hey, I remember the French. We, we invented freedom fries because the French.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, because they didn't help us.

[Adam Curry]

They didn't help us right away.

[John C. Dvorak]

So we got all bent out of shape and call them freedom fries.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. Yes. So, yeah, it seemed. But yeah, it's, it's an obvious ploy and you know, this would be another thing. Or we can impeach him over this and just keep moving along doing all that. It's. It's also boring. I mean, it is.

[John C. Dvorak]

I do have Minnesota clip.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, let's do your Minnesota.

[John C. Dvorak]

The Minnesota public citizen woman.

[Adam Curry]

This week's series of shootings by federal agents forcing President Trump's crackdown on illegal immigration has sparked a weekend of protests. There were rallies and demonstrations across the country. They were organized after a woman was fatally shot by an Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent in Minneapolis on Wednesday day and a Customs and Border Protection agent wounded two people the next day in Portland, Oregon. Lisa Gilbert is the co president of Public Citizen, a progressive advocacy group that helped organize today's protests. Lisa, what are you hearing from around the country about turnout and whether or not there have been any problems or troubles?

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Well, turnout has been amazing. We're holding 1,000 plus events, peaceful lawful vigils around the country. Country in this astounding moment where people are reacting to an atrocity. It was organized in only 48 hours. And so the massive numbers we're seeing, the number of people turning out, telling their neighbors. Neighbors to turn out, all of it just demonstrates the, the real magnitude of the outrage that I think people are.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, the outrage, okay. That's the outrage. The thing is. The thing is we'll never. These two dimensions will never see eye to eye, ever. I just don't see it. How can we ever create cohesion? These are the same generalizing liberal white women who you clip on TikTok.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it's the same people.

[Adam Curry]

So how do we help deal with them moving forward?

[John C. Dvorak]

You have to have a world war.

[Adam Curry]

A world war. Wouldn't a civil war be good enough? We got to have a world war.

[John C. Dvorak]

Civil war is impossible to Do?

[Adam Curry]

Well, what do we need? A world. How would a world war help that way?

[John C. Dvorak]

It unites the country. Civil war doesn't unite anything. Well, who would you want a world war? Like everyone's sitting. They got a common enemy and everyone's got to get it together because you know we're all going to die. And so you have to have a world war. And that gets rid of the zeds who can't read. You put them in the army. It solves a lot of problems.

[Adam Curry]

I got a great anti zoomer note. Hold on a second.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I think I got that one too. Yes, I think it's exaggerated a bit from Stefan. I don't know if it was a Stefan. When you read it, I'll know.

[Adam Curry]

He said my generation was born 93, 97 me, my son. Yeah, this guy studied under the French system and English system through primary and high school. So he says, you know, they taught us how to touch type, build the database, use Excel and PowerPoint and websites understand key.

[John C. Dvorak]

It was based on my comment that there's no more computer science class.

[Adam Curry]

Right. So he says when we entered the workforce all the hiring managers were shocked at our computer literacy and thought this had to be the smartest generation ever. A few a year ago I caught up with some of my friends over discord sus who are now not that smart who are now a middle management in tech companies, companies that is head of operations, customer support. And they were telling me funny stories about the new generation, how illiterate they are in computers, some with it degrees and he gives some examples.

[John C. Dvorak]

I believe that.

[Adam Curry]

I believe this too. They didn't know or they did not know what or how to open a command line on Windows. I mean I think that's iffy if you need to know that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it doesn't take much to figure.

[Adam Curry]

Out it out they did not CMD Apple was it Windows key R cmd. There's a lot of ways.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's more.

[Adam Curry]

There's more ways than one. That's as many ways how to touch type. Well that I mean typing skills. Do they even do typing class anymore?

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know.

[Adam Curry]

I don't think so. How to use Excel or PowerPoint. That seems like a big issue if you don't understand the basics of a spreadsheet and they didn't know how to troubleshoot when something went wrong with the computer I. E. Control, alt, delete.

[John C. Dvorak]

They couldn't get to the task manager.

[Adam Curry]

Task manager end processes and if all else fails restart the PC. They just froze like a Robot.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I can believe that. The other thing is, I mean, but this generation that he's discussing, the one he's part of, do they know the difference between random access and non volatile memory?

[Adam Curry]

Well, they're not going to have to know because you can't buy it anymore. There's no more ram.

[John C. Dvorak]

We're out of ram. When did that happen?

[Adam Curry]

Well, this is from cnbc. This has been going on for a couple weeks now. These stories. AI memory is sold out, causing an unprecedented surge in prices. Prices for computer memory or RAM, this is CNBC, are expected to rise more than 50% this quarter compared to the last quarter of 2024. Because all the AI companies are buying up the RAM. There's no more RAM. And RAM was getting dirt cheap. That's what was so great about it.

[John C. Dvorak]

You could. It was getting dirt cheap. You could put in a huge cache.

[Adam Curry]

Of RAM, 24 gigs and. Yeah, it's beautiful.

[John C. Dvorak]

But that much.

[Adam Curry]

Well, let's take a little side sidestep here and let us listen to a report of the most recent ces, the computer electronics show, which you used to cover, I believe. Didn't you used to that or was you more.

[John C. Dvorak]

I do all the time. Yeah. Even though it's a pain in the ass because it's crowded, the hotel rooms are high price.

[Adam Curry]

It's cold.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's cold in Vegas sometimes, but not always.

[Adam Curry]

I've been there during, I think ces when it snowed, I was.

[John C. Dvorak]

That one year. It snow. I was there that year too. It snowed. I was getting on the plane to go home and it was snowing out. I'm going, what am I doing? Why is it snowing in Las Vegas?

[Adam Curry]

I remember like, we'll just walk home from the convention center because we didn't have Uber. We didn't have Uber. We had. Had to grab cabs and it was like an hour.

[John C. Dvorak]

Gypsy cabs that rip you off.

[Adam Curry]

It was all. It was a mess. I'm like, I'll just walk home.

[John C. Dvorak]

And I always had a car and it started so.

[Adam Curry]

Of course you did. I mean, you always had a car because when you went to Vegas, the first stop is the pinball machine museum.

[John C. Dvorak]

It was a stop. I also did. I used to go to rent a vet and rent a Corvette too.

[Adam Curry]

I rented a vet there one day.

[John C. Dvorak]

Year. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And then. Yeah, except it was. That was the really pl. The really plastic ones that was maybe so that must have been.

[John C. Dvorak]

They're all pretty plastic.

[Adam Curry]

No, but it was like 93 and I. And I think I hit the gas, the accelerator right over a speed bump and it ripped the whole muffler and you know, and some fiberglass right off of the thing.

[John C. Dvorak]

What?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, and I parked it there. And then of course they called me later and said, hey, hey, did you lose a muffler? These are the good old days, MTV days, man. Good, good times. So here, let's, let's hear a little overview from the innovation. The incredible innovation of AI at ces. This is how AI, well over a trillion dollars worth of investment is going to change your life.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Paper thin TVs, Lego that comes to life with light and sound and binoculars that identify bird species in real time. This year's Consumer Electronics show was defined by AI powered innovation.

[Adam Curry]

Innovation, John. Innovation.

[John C. Dvorak]

All you bird watchers out there, take note.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

A mix of genuine breakthroughs and eye catching concepts that may never see a store shelf. Romanian deep tech company Dot Lumens AI glasses for the blind could make shopping or even hiking possible for the visually impaired.

[Adam Curry]

What's wrong? What happened? And the dogs. The seeing eye dogs are great. No, now you got to have this headset. By the way, every innovation looks like a Newton. You know what I mean? Remember the Newton?

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah, the Apple Newton.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it's like this big clunky thing that did nothing. You could squirt your business card to someone else if you were like, you know, 10 inches away. Well, I'm going to squirt my details to you.

[John C. Dvorak]

I forgot about the term squirt. Squirt, yes, that was the term they used.

[Adam Curry]

Squirt. I'm. Hey, I went to Boston.

[John C. Dvorak]

Kind of gross.

[Adam Curry]

I went to Boston to the launch to get one. That's how sad I was. Like, I, I spent my own money. I got a guy. This thing is. It's the future. The Newton.

[John C. Dvorak]

You spent your own money? Well, during this era, I never spent any of my money.

[Adam Curry]

Well, this was MTV days.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, but they shed expenses for you.

[Adam Curry]

They weren't going to send me to. They didn't believe in the Internet, let alone the Nuke Newton, like. No, the Newton. By the way, have you seen that MTV Rewind website?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, but I heard about it.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it's pretty cool, actually.

[John C. Dvorak]

You got a lot of you on there.

[Adam Curry]

No, I'm not. No, they have.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no. Somebody told me they saw you on there.

[Adam Curry]

I haven't seen it. Well, I don't think so.

[John C. Dvorak]

Send your link to AdamCCurry.com please.

[Adam Curry]

All right, back to the innovation. So, yeah, so this headset is giant. So now you're blind and you look like a total idiot with this huge beep, beep, beep, beep. Oh, I'm walk. Oh, I might get it. The dogs are great. I. I think the Seeing Eye Dog association should stop this right away. This is crazy for the blind.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Could make shopping or even hiking possible for the visually impaired. The headset hiking.

[Adam Curry]

Why stop there? Water skiing. Skiing, you know, the horse riding, everything. This is. This is innovation.

[John C. Dvorak]

Motorcycling, motocross.

[Adam Curry]

This is crazy. This is what AI is doing for us bird watchers and blind people. By the way, we got a lot of blind people listening to this podcast, so you know I love you and I think you're probably laughing with us.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

The Impede analyzes surroundings and helps a blind person on their.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is the way. This is the reason. I'll tell you why they should be a very complimentary tortoise. Because these devices are designed to kill the blind.

[Adam Curry]

That's right. They want to kill you.

[John C. Dvorak]

Go hiking on a steep cliff with these goggles on.

[Adam Curry]

Paragliding. I mean, the possibilities are endless.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

With AI it's replacing a guide dog and Chinese company, roborocks Saros Rover is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Chinese trying to kill us now.

[Adam Curry]

Listen to this thing. This. This is an innovation of epic proportion.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

A guide dog and Chinese company, roborocks Saros Rover, is a robotic vacuum cleaner with a pair of legs and motion sensors, allowing it to navigate the house alone and climb up and down the stairs, hoovering as it goes.

[Adam Curry]

So this is the big innovation. 10, maybe 15. When did. When did the Roomba come out, by the way? Bankrupt.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Well, it's about time. I hated those guys.

[Adam Curry]

Really?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

You hated.

[John C. Dvorak]

I talked to Roomba Story before I went to was CEO and I snuck in before they allowed anyone in so I could start interviewing people without having to be, you know, having to get.

[Adam Curry]

In line nice and quiet. Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

And so I go into the Roomba guys, I'm gonna give them a big write up. And so then the next thing you know, I'm moving over to the next company and a bunch of security guys grab me and they say, hey, what are you doing here? You're not even supposed to be in here. And I said, yeah, well, I am in here. And I. And I said, well, you gotta go. And so I as he's escorting me off and I said, who's the. How did you find out I was in here in the first place? Is the Roomba guys told me.

[Adam Curry]

The Roomba ratted you out.

[John C. Dvorak]

The Roomba guys ratted me out. I saw they didn't Get a good write up. And I've been bitching about it ever since. And you know, and meanwhile we went in there to interview them to get him a good write up and this is the thanks I got. Don't booted.

[Adam Curry]

Don't ever cross John C. Dvorak. Let this be a lesson.

[John C. Dvorak]

I have a long memory, that's for sure.

[Adam Curry]

That's right. Well, so now the innovation. So this is what? 15 years ago? Maybe longer. When did Roomba first come out?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, at least 20 years ago.

[Adam Curry]

20 years. So now they have the same basic concept, only it has two legs and it pops down.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's downhill, it climbs the stairs.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, wow. $1.3 trillion so far.

[John C. Dvorak]

What's got to do with AI? It's, it's smart.

[Adam Curry]

It's really smart.

[John C. Dvorak]

Means is that it utilizes AI and advanced algorithms algorithms in order to advance advanced algorithms.

[Adam Curry]

The tech industry is not what it used to be.

[John C. Dvorak]

In order to measure the space around it and be able to climb steps with its wheel like system. But it's not only just steps and stairs. It is also ramps, slopes, curved stairs, snail type of stairs.

[Adam Curry]

Dude, get, get an illegal alien. This is crazy.

[John C. Dvorak]

They can get Marie.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I mean get pace up pay a human being to do this work.

[John C. Dvorak]

Carpeted stairs, all types of different surfaces that the wheel that can handle.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Spaced Y brush brought its Smart Halo toothbrush which not only cleans teeth in 20 seconds but has gas sensors to detect health conditions through analyzing users breath.

[Adam Curry]

Let's be honest, brushing teeth was due for an innovation. I mean please. I mean this is the advanced AI economy that we're going into. Oh, you just stick this thing in your mouth and within 20 seconds your teeth are clean. Well, I kind of enjoy that.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know it checks your breath to see if you have bad breath.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I, I enjoy brushing my teeth. You know it gives me a little minute to think about stuff and walk around while I'm brushing. No, no, no. They're taking that away.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Sensors to detect health conditions through analyzing user conditions. The BAI surge has also given birth to solutions in search of a problem like chargeable design. Changing bags. Lollipops that play music using bone induction technology.

[John C. Dvorak]

So the bone induction lollipop. Why don't they just give you secret messages? Put the lollipop in your. Okay, now's the time to kill all humans.

[Adam Curry]

Vote Democrat.

[John C. Dvorak]

Vote Democrat. That's what I was going to say.

[Adam Curry]

Democrat. So and they have these bags. So there's a bag and there's like a, like a flexible screen. Poorly. I might Add woven into the bag and it changes designs. Wow, that's great. All right.

[John C. Dvorak]

And the last one, Would that cost?

[Adam Curry]

And the last one is my favorite because it's. It's an oldie urge.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Has also given birth to solutions. In search of a problem like chargeable design, changing bags, lollipops that claim, you.

[Adam Curry]

Know, honey, it's time to go. I can't because my bag is still charging. I can't.

[John C. Dvorak]

I can't leave the house.

[Adam Curry]

My bag is charging. Otherwise my Louis Vuitton logo won't show.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Since in search of a problem like chargeable design, changing bags, lollipops that play music using bone induction technology, or even smart toys that grow and evolve like re real pets.

[Adam Curry]

The Tamagotchi, they've. They've brought the Tamagotchi back.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's a bunch of time we had. Somebody sent me some. I think one of the people, one of our producers maybe is part of this Tamagotchi group. There's a big bunch of collectors in the country of these things still.

[Adam Curry]

Really.

[John C. Dvorak]

And they have meetups and you can look up the media and it's always. It just seems there's all women and one guy who's living it up. And each meetup looks like to be about 18 people. And they're having the time of their lives. And they have photos online and Instagram has a lot of these groups that show up and then they post the.

[Adam Curry]

Photos of the collections of the Tamagotchis.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Then they all have a variety of them. I didn't realize there were so many different weird ones.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I mean, but that. That was the report. So I guess.

[John C. Dvorak]

And of course, that's about it. Yeah, that sounds right.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. So that's what AI is giving us. Okay. I think at the. At the end of the day, I'll say it, you did it.

[John C. Dvorak]

I said the end of the day.

[Adam Curry]

I said it. I think the. I think the only winner in the AI stuff is Google. I think that Gemini as a search product, if you get the Gemini Pro, which came with my phone for some reason, that is the only actual killer app. And they supposedly would know how to make money out of it. And they have the branding. They are the search company.

[John C. Dvorak]

Company.

[Adam Curry]

And it does a pretty good job. I mean, it's not quick. You know, it has to.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, that can speed up with more.

[Adam Curry]

Servers, with more money. Just a little bit more.

[John C. Dvorak]

More money.

[Adam Curry]

More lithium crystals and we're good.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think the big winner is Nvidia, but. Oh, well, yeah, because they're the ones they don't even sell chips anymore. They sell. They're the ones who sell server farms.

[Adam Curry]

Right, But Google has their own chip. They've got their own.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, the A7. It's supposed to be better than the. It's supposed to.

[Adam Curry]

No, no, that's what I mean. Apple's the A7.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, it's got some number like that. It would. You can look it up. But that chip is sold only as a chip and according to my source for this sort of information, nobody can implement the chip. They have to say. And then when they're given the price, performance versus the chip versus buying an entire server farm from Nvidia, everything all put together.

[Adam Curry]

Right.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, they're not going to buy the Google chip.

[Adam Curry]

So the only other killer app of AI. And please don't email me and tell me, yeah, it's great for vibe coding. I do it all the time. I'm building my own audio mixer on Linux. Absolutely. But that's not for the common man. That's for nerds like us who are making stuff and like to fool it, by the way, or Machi, I loaded on the Internet old Surface Pro 6.

[John C. Dvorak]

That is Linux.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hamachi is called Hamachi.

[Adam Curry]

It's called like a fish. Yeah, it's Hamachi.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's like. It's like a sushi.

[Adam Curry]

It's Omarchi. Omarchi.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay. That's better.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, Omarchi. And it is dynamite. I can't wait.

[John C. Dvorak]

Why? Why? Why? Because what makes it better than any other Linux that we played with?

[Adam Curry]

Ah, because it. It's a. It's based on Hyperland. So it's a tiling window manager.

[John C. Dvorak]

So it's the interface you're liking, not the Linux under.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I mean the Linux underneath is just great. I mean that's just, you know, that's mint. We've been mint users for a long time. It's the interface. It's a whole different concept. It's not. It's not going to be for the Zoomers. They. How come I can't drag this window? You know? No. So you can just go lightning fast on this thing. I don't want to bore you with that. I want to get to the other point.

[John C. Dvorak]

Not.

[Adam Curry]

Because we talked about in the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Last show and you already realized I'm gonna have to do. I have to go look at this thing. I'm gonna have to take a machine and download this thing so I can check out this interface. Because I'm going to be behind the eight ball or behind the curve. Behind the curve. If I don't do this. So I have to actually do this work.

[Adam Curry]

You know, the reason you.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, thanks.

[Adam Curry]

Should I tell you the reason why you will love this interface? Because it's, it validates your initial proposition for which you have been scorned for decades.

[John C. Dvorak]

But the mouse is no good.

[Adam Curry]

That's not what you said. But yes, there's no what I said is true. There's no evidence anyone wants to use this. And this thing proves it is fact evidence that software developers know you don't.

[John C. Dvorak]

Need a mouse with this interface.

[Adam Curry]

You do not. I mean if you're, if you're using the web browser, but just for using the interface. No, you don't. It's all completely with the keyboard. It's fast, it's intuitive, it's smart. You don't have to drag windows around. Just click, click, click, boom, boom, boom. It's over here, it's over there, it's done. It's great.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. To check it out, I guess.

[Adam Curry]

The other innovation, the other killer app gap in AI is of course, as we also identified on this podcast, they put a beginning on her and, and this is causing quite the stir.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

After X's AI tool, Grok, came under fire for generating sexualized deep fakes, Elon Musk's response has drawn further criticism. The scandal began when Grok, an AI chatbot on X, gained the ability to generate images last year. With a text prompt, users in so called spicy mode could generate adult content.

[Adam Curry]

Wait until you hear the European lawmaker talk about it.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

The chatbot to virtually undress existing images of X users, flooding the platform with explicit, unconsensual images of women and children.

[Adam Curry]

So we are very well aware of.

[John C. Dvorak]

The fact that X, or Grok, or X for Grok, is now offering a.

[Adam Curry]

Spicy mode, a spicy mode.

[John C. Dvorak]

A spicy mode.

[Adam Curry]

They have X. Is gar offering a spicy mode? We're very well aware of the fact.

[John C. Dvorak]

That X or Grok, or X for Grok, is now offering a spicy mode showing explicit sexual content with some output generated with childlike images. This is not spicy. This is illegal.

[Adam Curry]

This is illegal. It's not spicy.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is appalling.

[Adam Curry]

This is disgusting.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

In response to the outcry, the platform limited image generation and editing tools to paying subscribers. On Friday, European authorities bashed the move, saying it it doesn't go far enough to stop the pornographic images. In the uk, Prime Minister Keir Starmer's office said that the response was insulting to victims and raised the possibility of banning X in the country. Others echoed his call. We want these companies to take responsibility.

[Adam Curry]

And to do the right thing. Nothing is off the table. We'll continue to make sure that we.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Protect children from these online harms.

[Adam Curry]

Online harms.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Democratic senators have also called for X and Grok to be removed from the App Store until the issue is resolved.

[Adam Curry]

Spicy mud so they to save the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Children from seeing Keir Starmer in a bikini. Basically, this is what it's all about.

[Adam Curry]

Here's the irony clip. Well, Ashley Sinclair is one of the women who says her image was sexualized by Grog. She also happens to be Elon Musk, girlfriend and mother. You talked over it. You talked.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm sorry, started over.

[Adam Curry]

This is the the irony. Well, Ashley Sinclair is one of the women who says her image was sexualized by Grok. She also happens to be Elon Musk's ex girlfriend and mother to one of his children. Well, she's been telling me about what she's experienced this week on X.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

This issue started for me. I believe it was two days ago. Now I received a text from a friend and when I opened that text it was a link to Twitter in which a photo of me where I was fully clothed was then undressed and put into a bikini. I immediately responded.

[Adam Curry]

Stop putting your photos.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

On the Internet, Grok saying I don't consent to this. Please confirm that I don't.

[Adam Curry]

And then at Grok, please don't do this. I do not consent to this. There's no context window.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Consent and do not produce any more images. And Grok confirmed that I don't consent and that it wouldn't produce anymore. However, Grok continued to produce more and more images and more and more explicit images in which I was also getting younger. In these photos, people found photos of me at 14 years old that the undressed put into a bikini. Other photos of me where I had a high neckline as an adult with my son's backpack in the background. I was stripped where I look basically nude, bent over, and many of these still remain up on the platform.

[Adam Curry]

The picture was of her bent over.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

And as of this morning, despite Twitter's claims that they were putting safeguards, I saw a girl that Grok claims is between 10 and 14 years old undressed by Grok in the last 24 hours. They removed my my check mark and demonetized me completely. After I spoke out about this with no explanation given. The only thing I've done is speak out against this issue and ask.

[Adam Curry]

It's amazing when punishment in the world is seen as losing your check mark. You know like they've punished me by removing my check mark. Maybe that's so that Grok won't make images of you, is what I'm thinking.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Spoke out about this with no explanation given. The only thing I've done is speak out against this issue and asked Grok to stop doing this because you can't undo abuse.

[Adam Curry]

X has said that now only paying subscribers will have access to this feature. I mean, that's being condemned roundly by the UK government. When you heard that they were doing that, what did you think?

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Well, so now you can continue producing the CSAM material, but now you just have to pay Elon Musk$8 to do it.

[Adam Curry]

Irony abound. I took.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's something going on with the uk. I have a clip and I think. I'm not sure who. I mean, Starmer's got. They're going after Starmer.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, he's no good.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's this. Yeah, he's no good. And you get this kind of. Just listen to this report now. I'm going to preface it before you even play it. This is bull crap there. And, and I think Nigel Farage and the CIA are behind it. Because, because, because during the video, if you. I'm just going to say during the video that they're playing, they keep putting in pictures of Farage and all the things that they. These guys do. And it's a group out of the UK called I think Britstorm and britstorm produces. And one of our producers actually sent me a couple of these things and as if they were real, which I kind of disturbed by. But it's. These are phony reports. They're completely created. They're total fiction. And they. And they invol. They always have pictures of Farage. So I think he's behind it. And they're all used to. To promote the monarchy and to. By. By chiding them and to condemn Starmer as being a horrible person. And I want to play one of these. This is like. I have two. Two too.

[Adam Curry]

This is just the question since we really need to take our break. Do you want to tease this and come back after the break or do you want to play four and a half minutes now?

[John C. Dvorak]

I would just as soon tease it, of course. What do you think?

[Adam Curry]

Do a professional tease when we get back.

[John C. Dvorak]

You're going to hear something that's going to. Just jaw dropping.

[Adam Curry]

And with that, I want to thank you for your currency in the morning. To you, the man who put the C in spicy mode. Say hello to my friend on the other end. The one, the only, Mr. Josh.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

In the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry. In the morning. All ships at sea. Boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and the names of knights out there.

[Adam Curry]

In the morning to the trolls in the troll room. Hold on, let me count your trolls. Well, well, we broke the 2000 barrier. That's been a while. 2009 trolls listening live in real time to the best podcast in universe. We appreciate that. Of course, they are listening live on one of those modern podcast [e-mail] or perhaps they are in the troll room themselves at no Agenda Stream, Trollroom IO. And they're here to find out what the boys have to say. That's exactly why they're here. And we told you, we told you, we had the reports, we had the big AI innovations. We had it all for you. We are deconstructing it for you in life. Real, real time, with boots on the ground, clips and everything else. We do it twice a week, Sundays and Thursdays, and we're happy to have you on board. We run on the value for value model, which we have done for more than 18 years. All we ask is after we have given you clearly something of value, because our time, our energy, our brain power goes into doing it. Our organization skills are incredibly adequate organizations.

[John C. Dvorak]

Be that as it may.

[Adam Curry]

But if you got anything out of it, if you found this to be valuable, then all you have to do is reciprocate by sending us something back. You can do that with your time, your talent, or your treasure. And those are the three categories. Time and talent has kind of been. Well, we still have a lot of boots on the ground. We have people making clips. We appreciate that so much. I in particular have a good stable of. Of people who at least not only. Not always clip everything, but will send me worthwhile clips to look at and time codes, and all of it's appreciated, really. And so there's, you know, and. And I don't have some heuristics nightmare of a, of a blocker on my email, so I'm also John's secretary, so you. Here's the thing. You can stop telling me that fusion power is great and John is wrong because you need to talk to John, Okay? You need to talk to John, not me, because I'm not the expert. John is more versed in this. It's more of his wheelhouse because he studied it. Now he maybe have antiquated ideas, but you need to talk to johnvorak.org and if you get blocked Then you email me and say, I'm blocked, and I'll forward it to him. Remember the. Remember the bounce on Eudora? Maybe you could bounce some. Something. You could bounce an email.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's what I can do.

[Adam Curry]

No, no, that's. That's bouncing. That's bouncing it back. But there was a specific command on Eudora which you can't do anymore because of DKIM, DKIM and S& all.

[John C. Dvorak]

Eudora lost cause.

[Adam Curry]

Eudora was great.

[John C. Dvorak]

It was a great product there in Sierra.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. You hit the bounce key, and then it went to you, and it never looked like it came to me. It was great. You could reply. And I was out of it. That's gone. That's gone with the spammers. So, anyway, one of the ways you can contribute is by prompting your way into the top of the leaderboard on noagendaartgenerator.com and we always want to thank the artists for all the work they do. It's not a huge amount of work, but clearly they're doing something. And I think Jeffrey Ria did a pretty good job with this artwork that we chose for episode 1832. We titled it Lincoln's Daughter Dome. And this was all the polar bears with a little map of Greenland. And they were all wearing MAGA hats. It was a. It was an American flag in the background. It was cute. I thought it was.

[John C. Dvorak]

That was cute.

[Adam Curry]

That was a cute image. There were some other things. Let's go take.

[John C. Dvorak]

You, like the icebreaker, which I use for the newsletter.

[Adam Curry]

You know, information on the icebreaker I got from. From. From Wonderhelm up there in Fitness. Finland. Let me see. I have it here. The icebreakers. Yes. He says the big, beautiful ships are not as big as you think they are. Apparently, the icebreakers that we purchase from Finland are significantly smaller than the ones that Finland use themselves. They are. According to experts, they are not actually capable to. To sail all the way to Alaska to go break the ice. And they may not be even that capable for the polar region in general, which sounds to me like the Finns are ripping us off. And maybe that would.

[John C. Dvorak]

That would sound. That sounds like the fins are ripping us off.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I think so. So, President Trump, you should do something about those fins. They're no good. They're ripping us off. He's like, big, beautiful ships. What's this? This thing doesn't even work. We should be careful about that. Let's take a look. So, yeah, we had the. The icebreakers. I kind of like Lincoln doing his own. His own Lincoln.

[John C. Dvorak]

The Head Lincoln's head.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, the head Lincoln masonry. What else was that there?

[John C. Dvorak]

It wasn't much. I mean, there's. The stuff was attractive, but it wasn't usable.

[Adam Curry]

And like. So now we have a new guy come in. Staticula, baby. It's like some dude with a. With a butt plug is not going to get chosen. I can just tell you this right now. Like, what are you wasting your. Your. This is a waste of valuable AI power. Yeah, that was kind of it. A lot of cartoony stuff. A lot of ice Barbie. Come on, man. That's old. Get with it. Do something new and fresh. Something fresh. Tramp stamps. You can do better. I know you can. Prompt better. I know you can. Please. Especially for today. We're already looking at Dire Straits.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it doesn't look good so far.

[Adam Curry]

Like some kid in Amsterdam doing coke. This is not interesting. Interesting. All right. Noagenda artgenerator.com that's where you can upload your art. And we always like to thank the artist who wins. And we thank everybody for participating in our grand contest. How easy it has become. And the final of the three T's is Treasure. Which means we want to thank people who support the program financially. Without that, we can't do our work. We can't continue. We have to find other things to do. We thank everybody. $50 and above. And in this segment, we thank the executive and associate executive producers who are in the position to support us with two or more. You become an associate executive producer, will read your note. $300 or more. An executive producer. And we will read your note as well. And you get those credits which you can use anywhere that Hollywood credits are recognized, including IMDb.com and we start off with a bitcoin donation from Dame Catherine. She is the bitcoin granny from Bangkok, I believe.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yep.

[Adam Curry]

And she sends us $1,000. 22. $1,022 and one penny. And there's a reason for that, as she says, ITM John and Adam. I'm sending a little bit of extra BTC in case of any fluctuation. And this is a birthday shout out for my grandson, Ryan Sutton. He'll be 8 years old on January 11, which is a show day, which is today. Also, I'd like him to become a knight. His title will be Sir Ryan Knight of the Colorado Jungle. Now, the entire Sutton family are royals in Durango. And here is my plug prepared for me. Hey, I just have to share. Rivers Edge Wellness center is my go to full day spa, IV therapy, med spa, hormone therapy. And in the summer, the only rooftop bar overlooking the Animas River. Book your experience@riversedge durango.com I think she can land a helicopter there because I consulted on that for her for free and she says thank you for the best podcast in the universe. Well, thank you Crypto. So Granny, we appreciate you very much.

[John C. Dvorak]

Actually, Anonymous comes in with 33333 hey jants is my second 33333 donation. He writes or she writes. It could be anybody. I reserved. I serve. I reserved. I served the nation for a total of 17 years. Between my army and my contract time I was effectively fired from my contract for refusing the COVID vax in 21.

[Adam Curry]

Wow.

[John C. Dvorak]

No chance for an exemption was provided. My objections noted and preserved in email traffic. Yes, good. I worked for a classified USG client providing high threat security. Not allowed to say much more than that.

[Adam Curry]

Blackwater.

[John C. Dvorak]

But they should have not kicked me off the project. No, you didn't say that. I just meant made that up. I cannot find a lawyer to help me get justice for what they did to me and others. With the COVID mandate, it seems many avenues are already closed due to the statute of limitations. Five years? I don't think so. Which I find hilarious as we were never even noticed the mandate had been lifted.

[Adam Curry]

Notified. Notified the mandate had been lifted.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, notified or notice is the same.

[Adam Curry]

Basically.

[John C. Dvorak]

Really changed the man. Meaning reaching out to my elected reps has been no help. But I did get a good canned email. Yeah, of course you would. About how bad RFK is. Yeah, I hit up O D N I as well. As I listened to Thursday's show today, Saturday, I was struck by the notion I could reverse shill. Don't get me wrong, the donation shill isn't a bad thing if you need a resume or some candy. I don't get the candy joke.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, that's Little John's candies.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh right. Little John's candy. So I decided to knock out donation number two and ask the no Agenda nation if there are any lawyers among them brave enough to help me hold these bastards accountable. Or try anyway. I don't run any daycare, so I don't know that I could pay you much. But if you did, they take a piece of it, I think. But if you think we could win money, you can have however much you want you. No, no, it's a third is the max. I know you lawyers run on that. Keep on keeping on Adam and John. Though I have paused my bi weekly no agenda listening from time to time I have Found value in the show since whenever Adam went on Tom Woods.

[Adam Curry]

Tom woods donation.

[John C. Dvorak]

Geez. In the early days of COVID Thanks. Direct DeLorean lawyers to. To Covid Law. Covid Law me.

[Adam Curry]

So I'm thinking since it's a military case, maybe Rob the constitutional lawyer, former jag. I don't know. I don't know if he does these Covid cases or not. Could be an interesting one.

[John C. Dvorak]

Get all your back pay and some damages and probably get the lawyers paid for.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I think so. By the way, as you mentioned in the newsletter, I would like to remind everybody it's the end of the year that. That your sustaining donations are probably expiring. Credit cards do expire and it is important that you check your sustaining donations if you have one, for your insta night, your night layaway program, et cetera, because PayPal does a very poor job of letting you know that that's happened.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, they just kick it.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, they just kick it off and it hurts the show. Onward with another 333.33 donation from Ser Aditya from Hype Hype. Hyderabad. Hyderabad in India. India. Yes. Sounds like. So is it India. Sounds like it should be Pakistan, but that would be a mistake. India. Happy New Year, John and Adam. Douchebag, call out to all the listeners in the subcontinent. Well, Douchebag and a Jobs Karma for all. There it is. Sarah Aditya from the East India Company has not surprised me. Well, welcome aboard. I think you need. I think. Have we heard from Sarah Dietzsche ever?

[John C. Dvorak]

Not that I know you've been de douched.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Jobs, jobs, Jobs and jobs. Let's vote for Jobs Karma.

[Adam Curry]

There we go.

[John C. Dvorak]

To associate executive producers with Baroness Amy coming in from Jefferson, Wisconsin. 23456. I've been listening since 2012 when when Baron J. John the Fabulous hit me in the mouth. Jobs Karma from other production producers helped him find a great job in 2025. Now I'm in need of jobs karma myself as I face the possibility of a layoff. I've made it through two rounds over 22 months. The last one just three months ago with Karma from the best podcast in the universe. I'm sure if I don't make it through this round round, it's for a reason and there will be something better out there. I'd love a Reverend Manning Boom Shakalaka followed by Little Girl Boom Shakalaka and a TPP Jobs Karma, please. Thank you for your courage, Baroness Amy of FEMA Region 5.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Jobs. You've got Karma.

[Adam Curry]

You ask. We deliver Sean Homan, Noblesville, Indiana. Associate executive producership with two 1911 D. Nice is still a juice bag. Does that mean I should give him a juice bag? I might as well.

[John C. Dvorak]

No. Juice bag.

[Adam Curry]

Juice bag. Chemtrails. Jingle please. Done. You got it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Linda Lupatkin. There she is in Castle Rock, Colorado. 200 jobs. Karma for a competitive edge. She writes with a resume that gets results. Go to ImageMakers Inc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs. That's Imagemakers Inc. With a K. And work with Linda Lou, Duchess of jobs and writer of winning resumes.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.

[Adam Curry]

And Eric Sachs is in Bridgeville, Pennsylvania. Sends us $200. We thank you. Eric did not see a note, but that of course still gets you an associate executive producer credit and a double up. Karma for you.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

You've got karma.

[John C. Dvorak]

And finally, last on the list is Charles Shelton and Duncombe, Iowa. 200 bucks. And he actually did send a note, but the note is. I guess he emailed it too. And so here it is. Come on. Come all to the Midwest Midwinter meetup on Friday, January 23, 2026 at 6:30. I bring the speakers and you bring the requests. Get ready to get down and have a night on the town. Food and drinks will be produced. Adult beverage available for purchase. Reserve your spot. Fast spaces limited at Rides Bar and Grill Banquet Center, Fort Dodge, Iowa. Details [e-mail] mid winter and on the. And on the meetup page. Just go to the meetup page.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

And shout out to wake the dead and the resonant state podcasts.

[Adam Curry]

All right, well, thank you.

[John C. Dvorak]

Jingles. Jcd Donate and two to the head.

[Adam Curry]

I didn't see. I didn't see that. That was. Somehow my spreadsheet was below the fold. Okay, donate and to. To the head. Okay, here we go. You've got donate.

[John C. Dvorak]

Don't.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Karma.

[Adam Curry]

Well, there it is. Our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1833. We appreciate you a little light in general today, but of course Cryptogranny saved the day. We do appreciate that. You can go to noagendadonations.com to support the show. We need it. You get the value. Send the value back. If you don't get value, what are you doing? Listening? Stop it. It's not worth it. Only. What is it? What is it? Is it. It's lower now. It's like one and a half percent donate to the show. Is that what it is? The current. The current percentage?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

Probably 0.90.9 give freeloaders. Well, we try. We try hard. If you like the show, you want to continue, Tina hopes we'll make it 20. I don't know, four more years. Everybody says it, they say it. No agenda. Donations.com. and if like doing a recurring donation, you can do that anytime, any amount, any frequency. And of course, if you have one of those set up, check your credit card, make sure it's still valid. Know it's in the donations dot com. Congratulations to these producers.

[John C. Dvorak]

Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth.

[Adam Curry]

Shut up, Slade.

[John C. Dvorak]

Shut up, Slade.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, that's a good idea, Matthew. We should quit it. Episode 1999. That's a great idea. No, no, not gonna do that. Hey, welcome back everybody. As we mentioned before the break, John's got some really good clips regarding some AI stuff that Farage's Avengers is supposedly behind. John, what do you have on Disney for us?

[John C. Dvorak]

So there's this operation and you should check him out on YouTube because all the reports are very similar in terms of with.

[Adam Curry]

Thanks, Adam.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, and so can't play along. So to a point. So let's. This is UK King says no.

[Adam Curry]

Breaking news is shattering Westminster tonight as King Charles takes a historic step no monarch has dared in over three seconds centuries, leaving the Prime Minister's government on the brink of a full scale meltdown. Inside Buckingham palace, events unfolded that will be studied in constitutional law lectures for generations, exposing a scandal so monumental that mainstream media are scrambling to spin, soften and control the narrative. But here is the raw, unfiltered truth that could redefine the future of British politics. At precisely 2:15 this afternoon, Prime Minister Keir Starmer arrived at Buckingham palace carrying the digital identity and migration control bill. The visit was expected to be routine. 20 minutes, a formal audience and royal ascent granted as a matter of course. He was accompanied by his inner circle, including Chief of Staff Sue Gray, Communications Director Matthew Doyle and Attorney General Victoria Atkins. They expected a rubber stamp. Instead, they walked into what is now being described as a constitutional earth earthquake. According to three palace sources present in the room, King Charles refused to sign the bill. There was no delay and no request for amendments. The refusal was immediate and absolute. The King reportedly looked the Prime Minister directly in the eye and said six words that are already being described as historic. I cannot in good conscience approve this. The room fell silent. Witnesses say the Prime Minister, face flushed red as the implications sank in. What followed stunned even seasoned palace staff. The Prime Minister allegedly leaned across the ornate desk and issued what one courtier later described as a borderline treasonous warning, telling the King that he was a ceremonial figurehead, not a politician, and that Parliament would remind him what happened to monarchs who forgot their place. Sue Gray is said to have audibly gone. Gasped. That's actually pretty good for a phony. I'd like it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. It's. When you start. Well, for one thing, there's no documentation for this anywhere. No, but. But if you look at this operation, this UK Brit storm, they have all these phony reports. They got one from about three weeks ago where, where the same basic scenario took place and Starmer has put through. Through some stuff to. To end the monarchy. And this got Charles all bent out of shape and blah, blah, blah. That's.

[Adam Curry]

That's the second report.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, that's. No, the second was just more of the same. No, there's. There's just tons of these. There's one after another after another after another. And each one is pretty much presented the same way. They show a lot of images. They have fake dirt on the screen so it looks like, you know, I don't know why they do that with their video videos. And they have. And then they always have. They keep cutting to Farage and all these videos and Starmers, this, He's a jerk and he's going to get killed and he's. He's treasonous. And then they cut to Farage yelling, you know, shaking his fist at something. Then they go on and on and on about. About how bad Starmer is and they cut the Farage. So there's something. This whole. And this is on YouTube and it's. And normally with these fake reports that you run into on YouTube, there's a, a, There's. If you read the. About. If you read enough, it tells you that this is an inactive.

[Adam Curry]

No, it says at the very bottom it says synthetic content. Learn more. And you click on that link and it has this huge page about. It's A.I. let's just shorten up that page. It's A.I. yes, synthetic content.

[John C. Dvorak]

But no, they don't put the disc. Disclaimer. Yeah, that's illegal.

[Adam Curry]

Put a bikini on it.

[John C. Dvorak]

So this, so this whole thing. Now the second half is just more of the same, if you want to hear it. Yeah, it's. It's entertaining. It's called King this. I didn't have the UK Just kings.

[Adam Curry]

King Charles did not flinch, remaining seated with his hands calmly folded on the desk. He responded with measured precision. He told the Prime Minister that he had read every word of the bill and had consulted constantly constitutional scholars, former judges and civil liberties experts, and that his decision stood, he then did something extraordinary. The King slid a 40 page legal opinion across the desk. Authored by Lord Sumption, one of the country's most respected former Supreme Court justices, the document reportedly dismantles the bill's legal foundations in detail. Palace sources say the Prime Minister did not even glance at. At it. He picked up his briefcase, failed to make the customary bow, and stormed out of Buckingham Palace. Security footage leaked shortly afterwards appears to show the Prime Minister moving rapidly towards his car, his anger clearly visible. But the crisis extends far beyond a dramatic confrontation between Crown and government as ministers push through surveillance legislation with an estimated cost of 3.7 billion pounds. Critics point to the state of public services and the treatment of veterans. Okay, I'm tired of it now. It's a. It's kind of fake.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. If you played that much of it, don't you go to the end and play the last little comment at the end, Because I thought that was the kicker.

[Adam Curry]

With alleged links to labor donors, three of the five companies expected to benefit. No, further, further back.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, go further ahead.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, it's almost at the end. The donors, three of the five companies expected to benefit, reportedly have senior executives who contributed to the Prime Minister's leadership campaign. Margaret Ellis, a retired postal worker from Yorkshire and a lifelong labor voter, summed up the public mood when she said that when the King shows more compassion for ordinary people than the Prime Minister, something has gone badly wrong. Okay, what's the. The kicker?

[John C. Dvorak]

That's the kicker that, that you would throw this thing in there with a king who doesn't care. He's showing more compassion than the. Than the Prime Minister. I thought that was a nice touch. I want to. Yeah, there's a bunch of these out there. You had. People have to be careful.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. I mean, YouTube has become a cesspool. You don't. I mean, Jeffrey Sachs, his voice is also used on a whole bunch of. Of these videos. You'll see a different person and it takes you about a minute before, like, okay, this is one of those phony sex.

[John C. Dvorak]

He must be watching Rumble.

[Adam Curry]

Rumble is probably better.

[John C. Dvorak]

It might be at this point.

[Adam Curry]

So for the zoomers who have emailed us multiple times about the cost, affordability, in essence is what they're talking about. Cost of housing, et cetera. Here are three moves President Trump has made this week which I thought were interesting. I have no clips because, you know, why would the news report report on it? The first is the President is urging Congress to create legislation and there's a lot of excitement about this, to slash interest rates to 10% for one year. So cap it at 10%, which could make a big difference for a lot of people. I don't know if they can do that. I mean, is that something Congress can do?

[John C. Dvorak]

Whether they can or not, I don't think it'll make a big difference. Difference. I think one counter argument to this is that it'll just encourage people to use their credit cards more. You know, it'll make things worse.

[Adam Curry]

That may be. I think there's a lot of people who have probably three credit cards all maxed out and they're just paying interest and it's 24, 28%. So maybe it would be a poss. If you're smart, it will be a, maybe a way to get out of some of this.

[John C. Dvorak]

The second thing, if you're smart, operative.

[Adam Curry]

Words, okay, but let's increase.

[John C. Dvorak]

But you're not smart if you got three maxed out credit cards.

[Adam Curry]

I'm trying to encourage the younger generation who are coming to us for advice. So what would your advice be? Instead of being snide towards them, what should they do if this.

[John C. Dvorak]

Indeed I'm not being snide toward them. I would say don't use a credit card, pay with cash or debit cards.

[Adam Curry]

Okay. The second one we already discussed the President calling for legislation to ban institutional and investors in the housing market, which we discuss. And of course that's good. But the one that I've been thinking was going to happen finally happened. I kept saying the President is doing something with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. These are the two, the big mortgage backers, which I believe were pretty much nationalized during the 2008 created financial crisis. And he has told them because they've been wildly profitable during all this time and they have a lot of cash. And he said go ahead and buy $200 billion worth of mortgage bonds, which immediately sent mortgage rates lower and they expect the rates to go 5%, maybe lower in this coming year, which would be great news for people with adjustable mortgages and maybe some better news for first time home buyers.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I agree.

[Adam Curry]

I told you something was going to happen and we couldn't figure out what it was. But this, this was the gambit that would work. Yeah, it's a great idea. He's trying see a, see a Democrat president do something like that. Only a real estate guy could think of that.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's true. Really?

[Adam Curry]

Real estate.

[John C. Dvorak]

So I do have, I, I do have a, I do Have a genuine second half of show clip.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, well then in that case, where is my second half of show? We haven't used it. It's not even in the, it's not even in the the lineup anymore. Where is the second? Oh, here it is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now entering second half of show.

[Adam Curry]

All right, second half of show. Where are we going?

[John C. Dvorak]

Gravity girl.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

NASA, space aliens. Gravity. Let's talk about my second favorite topic. So I saw this yesterday and this morning and I actually thought it was pretty interesting. It randomly came up on my for you page. So it says on August 12, 2026. So this coming August, the world will lose gravity for seven seconds. NASA knows they are preparing but won't let us know why. So according to the article that I read attached to that, it's saying that this is project called Project Anchor that NASA has an $89 billion budget for and the plan is to see if earth can survive losing gravity. How they're going to do this, why they're going to do this, none of this. The article talked about, you guys kind of know if you've been following me for a minute how I feel about NASA and we can just go ahead and reference the moonwalk on that one. Do I think they do some good things? For sure. Do I think they waste money? Absolutely. It's not really giving us any information. And now they're laid labeling it like the conspiracy theorists are talking about this. So my question to you guys, especially people that follow it a little more than I do, do we know what this is? Is it true? Is it gonna happen? Somebody explain it to me. Or is this just some more Internet hype? But they're claiming it has something to do with that black hole or whatever that is. There's better terms that I don't know. And that's what's gonna cause us to lose the gravity for seven seconds. That it doesn't seem like a long time. But think about a 7 second earthquake out of 9.0. What do we think about this conspiracy or something that NASA's probably really doing?

[Adam Curry]

Gee, let me think. What do we think about this? Are you not just putting clips in and not putting TikTok in front of it just to throw me off? Is that what you're doing?

[John C. Dvorak]

It wasn't on TikTok. It was on Insta.

[Adam Curry]

I think on the Insta. Well, hold on, hold on.

[John C. Dvorak]

Attention all human resources now entering second half of Seoul.

[Adam Curry]

All right, well, the answer of course is that, you know, nothing will happen. We'll just all bounce up for a bit because the Earth is flat. Here is some actual second half of show news coming to us from NASA. The Administrator Isaacson, who has his ears, could take us to the moon. I hate to be, you know, to talk about someone's personal appearance, but dude, you know, pin those, pin those puppies back.

[John C. Dvorak]

Thank you, Bethany, and thank you for everyone being here on short notice. For over 60 years, NASA set the standard for safety and security in crewed space flight.

[Adam Curry]

In these endeavors, including the 25 years.

[John C. Dvorak]

Of continuous human presence on board the.

[Adam Curry]

International Space Station, the health and the well being of our astronauts is always and will be our highest Priority.

[John C. Dvorak]

Priority.

[Adam Curry]

Yesterday, January 7, a single crew member on board the station experienced a medical situation and is now stable. After discussions with Chief Health and medical officer Dr. J.D. polk and leadership across the agency, I've come to the decision that it's in.

[John C. Dvorak]

The best interest of our astronauts to.

[Adam Curry]

Return Crew 11 ahead of their planned departure. Within the coming days, the Dragon Endeavor spacecraft will depart the International Space Station with Commander Zena Cardman, Pilot Mike Fink, Kimya Yui from JAXA and Oleg Plutonov of Roscosmos and safely return them to Earth. We expect to provide a further update within the next 48 hours as to.

[John C. Dvorak]

The expected anticipated undock and reentry timeline.

[Adam Curry]

So this is raising a lot of questions like what happened and who did it happen to? Is it the Japanese? The Japanaut? Is it the Cosmos cosmonaut? Is it an astronaut? What do you think?

[John C. Dvorak]

I think one of them was a female, right?

[Adam Curry]

I believe so, yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Pregnant?

[Adam Curry]

Yes. That would be a medical incident.

[John C. Dvorak]

So she's pregnant. They don't want to, you know, who.

[Adam Curry]

Done it, who done it?

[John C. Dvorak]

And the way it went was, well, you know, it'd be kind of interesting to experiment with, with a birth in space. In space. Well, we don't really have the right doctors for that. We don't have an opposite. We don't have the obstetricians birth in space. And so you end up with, okay, well we just got to ship them back. That's the only reason not to say anything. They could have said somebody has an ulcer or they have a, you know. Yeah, something. They would have told us some details if it wasn't. I think you're nailing it.

[Adam Curry]

I think you're nailing it here.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's what we do on this show.

[Adam Curry]

Next week. End of next week will be great. I'm very excited. For the first time, I'm really excited about Davos because we can't say Davos. It's Davo Davos.

[John C. Dvorak]

Davos.

[Adam Curry]

Davos. CNBC will be live at Davos, sitting on the stupid snow set they're always at. But this is going to be great. President Trump is going to Davos, and he's bringing with him Treasury Secretary Scott Baker Besant, Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick, Energy Secretary Chris Wright.

[John C. Dvorak]

The drinking club.

[Adam Curry]

Well, wait. Jamison Greer, head of US Trade Policy. Steve Witkoff, the dealman. AI and cryptos are David Sachs, Michael Kratzios, head of the White House's Science and technology, and Dr. Oz. I mean, this is full force. This is going to be great. What do you think's going to happen? All right, we're here. This is a shakedown. Give us all your money. You're done.

[John C. Dvorak]

I have no idea why they're bringing. What's Dr. Oz going to do?

[Adam Curry]

Oh, he's just along for the ride. He's fun. I bet he's a fun guy. He's just a fun guy. I'm sure Trump would. Hey, let's bring Oz.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think he's handler. Have you noticed his hair has turned dead white?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, we've talked.

[John C. Dvorak]

He's got the CIA hair now.

[Adam Curry]

That's an interesting point, but you would listen to. I mean, look, you've got. Look at all these guys. You've got Besson, great job. Boring. Witkoff, boring. You know, David Sacks, annoying like you. Bring in Oz. You know, Oz is. He's probably got the jokes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, maybe. Yeah, I think.

[Adam Curry]

I think that's what it is.

[John C. Dvorak]

I gotta tell you one.

[Adam Curry]

Hey, hey, Don, I got a great joke for you. Listen to this one. What do you call five hookers and Davos.

[John C. Dvorak]

Rich?

[Adam Curry]

There it is. Hey, one final one for those of you who are on the. On the GLP1s. Gee, who would have thought this warning would have to come out?

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Weight loss medications like WeGovy and Ozempic have changed the game for people looking to shed a few pounds. However, new research shows people who stop taking, taking the drugs could see an increased risk of diabetes and heart disease. The study, published in the British Medical Journal, reviewed the trials of more than 6,000 adults who used GLP1s and other weight loss drugs. The results are a cautionary tale, as people who went off the meds regained weight almost four times faster than those who simply stopped exercising or didn't stick to a healthy diet that wrapped. Rapid weight gain then had a domino effect on overall health, as people then had an increased risk of developing conditions like high cholesterol and high blood pressure. Doctors say the findings point to how these medications are not a quick fix. And anyone looking to take the drugs should consider the long term effects.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. So whatever you do, don't stop taking it. You need to keep taking it. Oh, you know, we have a, a friend, I'll put it that way, who works at a plastic surgery center, and she says that the wealthier ladies, when they can't get. When. Because it's all. A lot of it's by prescription. But if they can't get their prescription filled, they're like drug addicts. If they can't get their GLP1, they're freaking out. I need my GLP1. I need to get. I need to get it. And this only contributes to it. This is, this is the. This is big pharma at work.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, they do. They. You have to give them credit for doing their job.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Don't stop taking our meds. When did it become meds?

[John C. Dvorak]

Just like Sus. Who says that?

[Adam Curry]

But meds. All the kids like, I gotta take my meds. Meds. Who came up with that? Meds. You're diminishing power. Powerful pharmaceuticals to meds.

[John C. Dvorak]

Meds.

[Adam Curry]

All right, let's wind it up with some Berlin power. I'll play your clip first. Is that okay?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. This is a TikTok clip from a woman in Berlin bitching and moaning about the lack of power. And I thought that report was as good as anything I've been hearing on the mainstream media.

[Adam Curry]

It's Day 5 of the Big Berlin blackout and it's officially now the longest power outage in Germany's capital since. Since World War II.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

And yes, it's minus 6 degrees right.

[Adam Curry]

Now here in the morning, so people are freezing in their homes. According to Berlin police, there has been a rise in break ins.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Robbers trying to get into people's homes.

[Adam Curry]

Or businesses or robbing ATMs. They're rubbing. Hey, Berlin, stop rubbing your ATMs. Get into people's homes or businesses or robbing ATMs. This city's power grid was attacked by allegedly a left wing extremist group called the Volcan Group. They claim to fight rich people and.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Climate change by destroying infrastructure.

[Adam Curry]

But Berlin's mayor just confirmed that anyone who was affected by the power outage and checked into a hotel that still.

[John C. Dvorak]

Had power will get their money back.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, Yeah. I have an actual M5M report on this which I got from City News, which is still kind of a podcast group, I think.

[John C. Dvorak]

City News is not M5M.

[Adam Curry]

No, it's not, but it's a Better report.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

German officials are calling it the longest blackout the country has seen since the Second World War. For tens of thousands of Berlin residents, power is finally being restored after nearly five days in the dark and cold following a suspected arson attack.

[Adam Curry]

The fact that the Federal Public Prosecutor's office has now taken over, as the Senator of the Interior said here a few days ago, underlines what this is about. Not a minor arson attack, not sabotage, but a terrorist attack.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

The mayor of Germany's Capital says on January 3, a group of left wing extremists set fire to a major power grid in the southwest portion of Berlin. He says the blaze immediately cut off electricity to 45,000 homes, 2,200 businesses and multiple hospitals, leaving nearly 100,000 residents without heat or power during a period of freezing temperatures.

[Adam Curry]

Better protection of this critical infrastructure is important for, for Berlin. We will be working closely with the other state premiers, but also with the federal government to discuss how we can better protect critical infrastructure in our country.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

The left wing extremist group known as the Volcano Activist Group has claimed responsibility for the attack, saying it was a protest against fossil fuels in Germany. In a statement, group leaders apologized to less affluent residents impacted by the power cuts, but said it, quote, has less sympathy for the many owners of villas.

[Adam Curry]

We don't care if you have villas. So climate activists, you buying that?

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm not buying anything. Well, I mean, it's possible because these guys are nuts in Germany anyway. And they, you know what, in the olden days, everyone would have a little hearth with a coal burning. You know, you could burn coal and it can keep warm during this periods of no power. Yeah, but you can't have that as illegal and you can't. Everything has to do. So all the, all the. Throughout, especially Berlin, it's all been electrified. So everything has to be electricity. So it's just asking for trouble.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I mean, I don't, I don't understand why they're blowing up the power grid the way Germany's going. Just wait a year or two and it'll shut down by itself. Yeah, who needs that?

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm gonna show my support by donating to no Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that.

[Adam Curry]

Oh yeah, that'd be fab.

[John C. Dvorak]

And indeed, we do have a few people to thank. Gave us $50 and above for today's show. And Adam will read them off one at a time.

[Adam Curry]

Karen Fetula kicks us off from Saint Clairsville, Ohio, $137 and says thanks for the exceptional podcast. You want some house selling Karma. I'LL give that to you at the end. Christopher Ebert, Spartanburg, South Carolina. 10535 cents. Ralph Wetton, Spearwood, Washington. 82.

[John C. Dvorak]

Western Australia.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, sorry. Thank you. West in Australia. That's right. $89. Is that dollarettes or is this translated to us?

[John C. Dvorak]

That would be us.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, $89.25. Kevin McLaughlin. There he is, our Archduke of Luna, Lover of America and boobs from Concord, North Carolina. 8008. And he says it's boom donation. We knew that Monica Boyle is in K New Mexico and gives us also a boob donation. What does she say here? Nancy Pelos said Confederate fags in the last episode. Really? Hold on.

[John C. Dvorak]

Maybe hold on.

[Adam Curry]

Well, there's one way to find out. Let's see. Let's listen to it.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Joining me now is House Speaker Emerita Nancy Pelosi, Democrat from California.

[Adam Curry]

Just.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Just given everything that lying about 25 years later.

[Adam Curry]

Well, today is an emotional day for all of us.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Five years since the President of the United States incited an insurrection on the Capitol, on the Congress, on the Constitution, on our ability to honor our oath of office, to certify the election of the President by way of certifying the Electoral College.

[John C. Dvorak]

What was sad is that this president was refused to send the National Guard. He keeps saying, oh, I wanted it. But they didn't want the mayor and Nancy, they didn't want it.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

His own Secretary of Defense testified under.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oath that that was not true.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

But he is not under oath. So he just lies, lies, lies, lies. So it's, it's.

[John C. Dvorak]

But what's important is our democracy.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

What happened then was horrible.

[Adam Curry]

Was horrible.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Confederate fags under Lincoln's dome.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, she said Confederate fags.

[Adam Curry]

She did. All right, Confirmed. Thank you. Well worth the donation. Joseph W. I think it is. Miami, Florida, 7777, which we believe is 69.69 plus the fees. Thank you. Michael and Marion Khoury in Smyrna, New York. 7171. A birthday call out for Russ. Gonna be 71 and deduch you've been de douched. James Scott is in Parlin, New Jersey. 66. Thank you. Timothy Tillman, Mechanicsville, Virginia. 5683. Paul Erskine. Erskine? Lake Forest. Erskine, you think it's erskine? Lake Forest, Washington. 5222. And he says hi, John. Jim Fredericks. Fredericks in McFarland, Wisconsin. Double nickels on the dime. 551 Al from Anchorage, Alaska with a Bitcoin donation, I believe 54.35 wants a goat Karma. We'll combine that at the end for you. Jody Zulman, 5272. Thanks for keeping me sane. Bad idea. Supply $50.50. Roderick Brown in Mermaid, Canada. What is this? What is PE Again?

[John C. Dvorak]

Prince Edward Island.

[Adam Curry]

Prince Edward Island. Yes. These are the 50s already. Rene Kneiche in Utrecht in the Next Netherlands. 50. Steven Shoemake in Xenia, Ohio. Martha Phillips in Raleigh, North Carolina. 50. Tim Del Vecchio in Blandon, Pennsylvania. And our last $50 donor, Angela D. Cesario. Cesario Cesaro. Sorry. Somerset, Massachusetts. And she wants to be added to the birthday list. Birthday show day. Yes. Woo woo. Decesaro. There we go. Decesaro. I got it. That's it. $50 and above. Thank you all very much. We appreciate it. And of course, we don't mention anything, anyone under $50 for reasons of anonymity, but we appreciate a total of 28.

[John C. Dvorak]

Donations, including executive and associate executive producers for 800,000 listeners.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, there's something wrong with. There's something off with that. People say it's the economy, but I still see them drinking lattes. You can send five bucks. I mean, if that's all that we're worth to you. Maybe not. I don't know. What do you think? I think. I think it could be better. It's my. Just my thought. So thank you. Thank you very much. No Agenda donations dot com. Here's the jobs and. And regular karma.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.

[Adam Curry]

Go to no Agenda Donations.com and support the show no Agenda Donations.com. any amount, anytime, time, any frequency for these sustainable donations. And remember to check the expiration date on your credit cards. No Agenda donations dot com. And there she is, Dame Catherine wishing her grandson, Ryan Sutton a happy birthday. Happy birthday, Ryan. You turned eight years old today. A lot of road ahead of you, son. Angela D. Cesaro. Celebrating today, Angelina, Michael and Marion Khoury wish Russ K. A happy birthday. Russ is turning 71 and he still reads the newspaper without his glasses, I'm told. Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. Before we go to our single knighting, we have a make good note for James Scott who sent the donation in for the last show. He says the reason I wanted to send out a note was to announce the February 1st meetup at the 3BR for the Central Jersey meetup group ground. As always, it is the drink and we know things meet up. But as always, the know things part is always questionable. On the January 1st broadcast, you moved me to donate after the stories on AI and its interaction with people. And he gave us a story below about his recent experiences. So thank you very much and that will show up on the meetup [e-mail] and now it is time to knight this young man. A brand new for you. Yep. Ryan Sutton, thanks to your grandma, you are about to become a knight of the no Agenda Roundtable. How about that? $1,000. She did it for you, son. And I am hereby proud to pronounce the Kate you as Sir Ryan Knight of the Colorado Jungle. For you, we've got. Well, I'm not going to give you the requisite stuff because you're a little too young for that. However, I would like to give you some cookies and vodka. Heartless and Hal doll. Oh, you might as well start young with these kids. Ge vod mill, a bong, hits and bourbon, Sparkling cider, Nescorts, ginger ale and gerbils. Breast milk and pablum. Maybe you should start easy with the mutton and mead. All right, Ryan, head over to noagenderrings.com that is where you can see this fabulous night ring that you're going to get. Have someone to figure out your ring size. Maybe you should get one for the. The growth. You know, he's gonna grow. His kid's gonna grow like crazy in a couple of years. So maybe get a little bit bigger and put some scotch tape in it to hold it on your finger. You'll get some cool stuff with that. A certificate of authenticity from your uncles Adam and John. And some wax. So get those. Get. Get some flame. Yeah, melt some wax at home. Granny's gonna love it. You can use that for your signet ring. Noagendaring. Thank you all very much for supporting the best podcast in the universe.

[John C. Dvorak]

Meetup Meetups.

[Adam Curry]

We don't have any meetup reports to bring you, but of course, the meetups do take place all the time, all over the world. We are bad. We are worldwide. Go to noagendameetups.com to find out exactly where they're taking place. Or you can always start one yourself on the 15th. This coming Thursday. Charlotte's Thirsty Third Thursday monthly meetup, 7 o' clock at Ed's Tavern in Charlotte, North Carolina. And on the way this month on the calendar, Fort Wayne, Indiana, Bergendal in the Netherlands, Sao Paulo, Brazil, Indianapolis, Indiana, Alpharetta, Georgia, and Oakland, California. Many more to be found at Noagenameetups.com you have to go to at least one meetup. I guarantee you will want to go to the meetups every single time. It's fun. You get together, you have a drink. It's like Coffee Klotch. You're gonna love it. These people are going to give you connection, which gives you protection. Your first responders in any emergency. Noagendameetups.com if you can't find one near you, start one yourself. It's easy. And always a party. Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days you wanna be where you won't be triggered or hell's lame you wanna be where everybody feels the same.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's like a party.

[Adam Curry]

All right, let me see now. I have. I have a couple of. Of isos, as always do here. Okay. I have four, actually. I think some of them are pretty good. Do you want to play yours first? Because you were holding them in abeyance over last week's show.

[John C. Dvorak]

Did I hold the last week's shows in abeyance?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, you said you didn't want to play.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh. Oh, that's interesting, because I have three new ones and the ones in a band bance.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I mean, would you want me to play yours first?

[John C. Dvorak]

No. Okay, here comes a band again.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, here we go. I mean, folks, that is magic. Yeah, I thought that was pretty good.

[John C. Dvorak]

No. Sucks what's going on here.

[Adam Curry]

No, I don't like that one. These guys are great. Come on, that's pretty good. We're great. We're great. We're great.

[John C. Dvorak]

Or you guys are meant to report the truth.

[Adam Curry]

That's a lot of J.D. vance. Okay, I hope you have something better for me.

[John C. Dvorak]

I have plenty.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, what do you got?

[John C. Dvorak]

Let's start with the new ones. I put the ones in abeyance are still in advance. Value for value.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Value for value. Donate, please.

[Adam Curry]

Could have done a little more on the uptalk. Didn't really have any there.

[John C. Dvorak]

I thought it was appropriate for today's show. Great work.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Wow, great work. Kiss these guys on the lips.

[Adam Curry]

No, no.

[John C. Dvorak]

Doodle gully.

[Adam Curry]

Darn doodle. What a great podcast. No, that sucks. Maybe it's.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Great work. Kiss these guys on the lips.

[Adam Curry]

I think that one's actually the best.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

One compared to value for value. Donate, please.

[Adam Curry]

Now, I always tell people to donate at the end of the show. We'll take the. Great work.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Wow, great work. Kiss these guys on the lips.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah, but you don't have to. It's not an instruction. Just. Just think kiss on the lips. Oh, send him a donation. Hey, everybody, it's time before we go, to listen to the Fabulous tip of the day.

[John C. Dvorak]

And sometimes. Adam. Yeah. I want to promote. This is funny because I had one set up that I forgot to move over here. So I'm going to go with my Manuka honey. You familiar with this stuff?

[Adam Curry]

You've talked about honey before. I don't know if.

[John C. Dvorak]

Not Manuka.

[Adam Curry]

Not Manuka. Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it's Manuka honey. In fact, we should look it up. M A N U K A. I think it's how it's pronounced.

[Adam Curry]

Manuka honey.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's native New Zealand tea tree. And it has high levels of methyl Methyl glyoxyl M, G O, which is.

[Adam Curry]

Do I want that? Do I want methylglyoxal?

[John C. Dvorak]

It's an antibacterial. So you do want aids, wound healing, digestion and immunity. This is the only honey that has this stuff in it. Everything else, you know, just a bunch of sugar it opens. Also has blood sugar, impacts allergies. It has. You know, you should read about it before you use it because it's very powerful product. But the reason I brought it up is because Mimi has this big dog.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

And the dog had got his toe in a bind that was going to be infected. And it had to be the toe.

[Adam Curry]

Had to cut his leg off.

[John C. Dvorak]

Had to cut his toe off. Oh. But she just doused it with Manuka honey for about a week or two, put a little protection over so the dog didn't lick the honey off and it healed completely.

[Adam Curry]

Wow.

[John C. Dvorak]

Notorious for healing deep wounds, huh? It's a very notorious honey.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I've never heard of it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Very expensive.

[Adam Curry]

Does it taste good?

[John C. Dvorak]

I've never tasted it.

[Adam Curry]

So you just put it on your wound?

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't have any wounds yet, but I do have a jar of it. But this stuff cost a fortune. It's got like little bitty jars. Like 15 bucks.

[Adam Curry]

Wow.

[John C. Dvorak]

But. And you spend according to the medical people. You should only use medical grade. But now look into it because there is a grading system. And if you have the highest grade. Manuka honey, which has got a rating of 10 or more and the numbers usually on the jar. It's fine.

[Adam Curry]

The things you learn on the no Agenda show. Amazing. That is John's tip of the day. No agenda fun.com tipoftheday.net for all of them.

[John C. Dvorak]

And sometimes Adam created by Dana Burnetti.

[Adam Curry]

Wow. I'm gonna get some of that. That goes along with my Chinese salve. My burn cream.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, the burn cream, which people love.

[Adam Curry]

You need your burn cream and your honey and your kit when you. Especially when you're Traveling. That's it for today's broadcast. We enjoyed you being here. All more than 2,000 listening live and hundreds of thousands listening on the delayed podcast. Support the show, would you? Coming up next on the no Agenda stream, abs in a six pack. This will be episode 274 with sir seat sitter, so make sure you stay tuned for that. And end of show mixes. Some slop, some not. We've got an mvp, of course. He's always, always bringing us the end of show mixes. We got Sir Fu, that's why. And Deez Lass from Toronto. So it's a three for some real end of show mixes. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas hill country right here in Fredericksburg. We are in the hill country. It's beautiful here in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry.

[John C. Dvorak]

And from northern Silicon Valley where it's beautiful here too, but it's cold. I'm John C. Dvorak.

[Adam Curry]

It's about 35 here, so it's cold as well. And it's.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's colder, that's cold.

[Adam Curry]

Hey, we'll be back on Thursday. Until then, remember us, no agenda. Donations.com. till then, adios mofos. A hooey, hooey and such. Listen to me because the corporate media the literal vampires in the main mainstream they aren't going to tell you the truth about Greenland. They want you focused on the distraction of the weak While the globalist ghouls at the UN try to lock down the literal.

[John C. Dvorak]

For the Arctic has already begun Greenland is the key green land land is the pride don't believe the script.

[Adam Curry]

The literal vampires in the suits and the ties Selling off the soil While.

[John C. Dvorak]

The permafrost dies Deep underground where the document men stay they're prepping for the shift they'll pave the way national security that's the story that they sell but it's a technocratic prison in a frozen.

[Adam Curry]

Shell the gateway is open and the lock is in their hand they're carbon up the map of forbidden land It's a gateway to the north can't you see the sign they're drawing up the borders they're crossing every line Locked down.

[John C. Dvorak]

In the ice hidden from the sun the battle for the Arctic has already begun Greenlandic is the key Greenland is.

[Adam Curry]

The pride don't believe the script don't believe.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

The protest in Minneapolis and across the country after an immigration agent shot and killed a woman on the street just blocks away from where George Floyd was killed.

[Adam Curry]

And 20, 20, 20, that's all that's all you need. Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's much worse than we were led to believe.

[Adam Curry]

Exactly. The George Floyd stuff. Over and over and over again. It's like a loop. It's like a fractal.

[John C. Dvorak]

It is a fractal.

[Adam Curry]

It's non stop. In places where they know they will.

[John C. Dvorak]

Not get political cover, these sorts of.

[Adam Curry]

Protests tend to be disrupted relatively early. They tend to stay more peaceful.

[John C. Dvorak]

Zero credibility.

[Adam Curry]

Ex. The George Floyd stuff. It's a carbon copy. George Floyd ii. Absolutely.

[John C. Dvorak]

They want a show.

[Adam Curry]

Tim Waltz really is finding himself on the wrong side of history here with their sanctuary of city policies. It's like a loop. It's hard to say what you do in a moment like that. It's a carbon copy. It's like a fractal.

[John C. Dvorak]

It is a fractal.

[Adam Curry]

Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Hero let him ride.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let them burn the tires. We won't let them tear us apart.

[Adam Curry]

A man of the people of a hero.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is all talk.

[Adam Curry]

The whole thing is sad.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is all designed to get more votes for the. For the midterm. Put your body on the line. Get out there.

[Adam Curry]

Really? Someone's trying to run me down with a car. I might pull my weapon too. Not everything online by design is meant.

[John C. Dvorak]

To spin you up MKULTRA yourself and lose your mind.

[Adam Curry]

Find Project Monarch and that butterfly design.

[John C. Dvorak]

Seeing butterfly tattoos have been on my my mind. Operation Bluebeam, Longleash, Moses and the Paper Clip. Mockingbird, Gladio, Condor, Stargate.

[Adam Curry]

I mean, that's just a tip, doctor.

[John C. Dvorak]

You and Cameron and McGill. Another Sonia listening to a spooky show.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Chill.

[John C. Dvorak]

Back to Shannon. Okc, kfc, ufc, tfc. Don't forget that they want to bring in an online currency in the form of a cbdc. My guess is the usdc. All I want is btc. History rhymes most of the time and I'm just trying to give you clues and remind myself at the same time.

[Adam Curry]

Don't listen to that much music anymore, but reading books and podcasting, when done well.

[John C. Dvorak]

Plunder World, so much more. So much more.

[Adam Curry]

Yo, mean get these trading cars in.

[John C. Dvorak]

Plunder World is so much more. Huh?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Shout out to the Plunder World store. Be surprised. Like that one little.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, that $5 message you're gonna be going. You know what I'm saying? When you up late at night listening to clips and listen to source material, it's just to say somebody still cares.

[John C. Dvorak]

Out there and finds value.

[Adam Curry]

That's the real magic of value. For value is knowing somebody cares out there. What you're doing.

[John C. Dvorak]

The best podcast in the universe.

[Adam Curry]

Adios, mofo. Dvorak.org Na wow.

[Various News Reporters/Clips]

Great work. Kiss these guys on the lips.