1834 - "Swarm Forge"

Summary

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No Agenda Show: Episode 1834 – "Swarm Forge"

Hosts: Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak
Date: January 15, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this expansive episode of the No Agenda Show, Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak deliver their signature media deconstruction, focusing on current political theater, the state of investigations and government inaction, tributes to late cultural icons, major technological trends, ongoing corruption scandals, and shifting global geopolitics. The episode is punctuated with their trademark humor, skepticism, and deep dives into media narratives, with memorable tributes to Scott Adams and Robert Jensen, fresh analysis of health and pharma headlines, and heated debate over central banking and digital currency.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Congressional Theater & The Illusion of Justice

(00:22–04:31)

• Recurrent cycles of inaction by Congress were discussed, with numerous examples, such as Hunter Biden investigations, and how both parties are complicit in perpetuating the status quo.
• Adam laments Congressional impotence:
  A: “James Comer is the biggest do nothing I've ever seen... nothing.” (01:07)
• Discussion of historic investigative failures (e.g., Eric Holder/Operation Fast and Furious) and the lack of follow-through on supposed “sealed indictments.”
• Skepticism about accountability, with the hosts mocking persistent online rumors:
  B: “Where's my 10,000 sealed indictments at? … I gave up.” (02:29)

2. In Memoriam: Scott Adams & Robert Jensen

(04:31–13:26); (25:15–30:52)

• Adam gives a moving tribute to Scott Adams, citing his hard work, blunt worldview, and unique journey as a “natural engineer.”
• Insights into Adams’ views on mass suggestibility and hypnotism:
  A: “He said he doesn't have respect for people...everybody is so susceptible to suggestion.” (06:53)
• Adam posits a “look at the rock” theory about self-sabotage and Scott's demise:
  A: “Scott Adams was so preoccupied with suggestibility to an extreme...he hit the rock.” (16:07)
• Community reactions and personal memories about both Adams and Dutch broadcaster Robert Jensen, who also passed unexpectedly.
  • Adam regrets falling out of touch with Jensen, reflecting on the shift to “Ike-ite” conspiracy media.
• Both segments are tinged with humor and affection, showing the hosts’ connections to—and skepticism of—media personalities.

3. Pharma & The Weight Loss Gold Rush

(34:49–41:47)

• The hosts dissect the media's latest pharma push for GLP-1 agonist weight loss drugs (Wegovy, Ozempic), and the shift of companies like Weight Watchers from lifestyle to medication models.
• Oprah’s media blitz promoting obesity as a disease and the need for lifelong medication is mocked: A (mocking): “It is not because you are overeating, it's because you have the disease that causes you to overeat.” (37:30)
• Discussion of native advertising, regulatory loopholes, and Wall Street’s glee over the societal push toward perpetual pharmaceutical dependency. B: “...Wall street is finding an unexpected beneficiary of America's weight loss boom. Airlines...” (40:28)

4. Tech, AI, and Censorship

(43:06–54:57)

• Explores X (formerly Twitter) and Grok AI’s controversies around deepfake image generation, specifically “undressed” images and legal blowback in the UK.
  B: “X announced that it would no longer generate undressed images of real people in jurisdictions where this is illegal.” (43:42)
• The hosts riff on viral “engagement farming,” freedom of speech issues, and the new world of AI image risks.
• They unpack the Pentagon’s “AI Acceleration Strategy,” satirizing jargon like "Swarm Forge" and "Agent Network" as Silicon Valley gobbledygook: B: “Swarm Forge… competitive mechanism to iterate, discover, test and scale novel ways of fighting with and against AI abilities.” (55:00)
• Broader concern about centralized digital infrastructure and the fragility revealed by major outages—a theme connected to both AI and national security.

5. Global Affairs: Greenland, Africa Deportations, and Iran

Greenland Crisis (84:33–105:24)

• Trump’s push to "acquire" Greenland for security purposes sparks NATO tensions, military build-ups, and European resistance. C (Danish FM): “We have a fundamental disagreement. But we also agree to disagree...” (91:07)
• Claims of Russian false flags, fears of fracturing NATO, and analysis of deeper motives behind these geopolitical moves, including resource competition and Arctic shipping routes.

US Deportations to Africa (67:08–76:15)

• Coverage of the Trump administration's plan to deport U.S. convicts to African nations, with local populations and leaders pushing back. B: “So basically what we're hearing on Al Jazeera is a bunch of Sudanese democrats who hate Trump...” (74:23)

Iran Unrest (76:28–84:25)

• Trump administration rhetoric shifts regarding Iranian protests and regime crackdown, with skepticism about numbers and sources—concerns about foreign influence and information ops.
• Analysis of the fractured nature of Iranian opposition, and speculation about foreign involvement and propaganda.

6. Political Landscape, Corruption, and Domestic Policy

(130:15–147:58)

• Analysis of midterm elections, Democrats’ local gains, Republican malaise, and the broader lack of grassroots energy.
• The situation in Minnesota: corruption scandals, mass immigration fraud, and ICE operations stoke local and national tensions.
• Hosts challenge media portrayals of law enforcement as vicious or out-of-control, pushing back against pure victim narratives. B: “Do these people really think that ICE is just going around just grabbing people?” (143:53)

7. The Federal Reserve, Stablecoin, and the Future of Money

(105:20–118:53)

• Deep dive and heated debate into the Fed’s structure, transparency, and Trump’s attacks on Jerome Powell. A: “The members are all known. In fact, I did a search on this. Are all the members of the Federal Reserve known? Yes.” (109:43)
• Adam argues for looming attempts to disrupt the legacy banking system through digital stablecoins and legislative caps on credit card interest rates. B: “I'm going to put it in the red book...this is an attack on the entire financial system. And yes, I think they're serious about doing it.” (118:15)
• The role of Shopify and other fintechs in accelerating the move away from traditional payment rails.

8. Listener Feedback, Community Shoutouts, Meetups & Closing Notes

(150:30–154:28)

• Executive and associate producers thanked; personal milestones and birthdays celebrated.
• Shoutouts to local meetups, the importance of community building, and value-for-value support.
• Reflections on the changing nature of podcast art and content creation in the era of AI.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Adam on the Cycle of American Politics:
  “I've been hearing this for 18 years...Where's my 10,000 sealed indictments at? I gave up.” (02:29 - Adam)
• On Scott Adams’ Worldview:
  “He did not really like people...because everybody is so susceptible to suggestion that they can be easily manipulated.” (06:53 - Adam)
• On Pharma’s Narrative Shift:
  “It is not because you are overeating, it's because you have the disease that causes you to overeat.” (37:30 - Adam, mocking)
• On AI Jargon:
  “Swarm Forge… competitive mechanism to iterate, discover, test and scale novel ways of fighting with and against AI abilities.” (55:00 - John, reading Pentagon copy)
• On Tech Centralization:
  “What kind of world are we? The Internet, everything, It's all so centralized. This is not how we designed it, John, you and I, and we sat down like, we're not going to...design this this way.” (61:03 - Adam)
• Reacting to the Media’s Weight Loss Pill Push:
  "But this is good news. According to cnbc, Wall street is happy. Airlines will save big money on fuel as new weight loss pills gain popularity." (40:28 - John)
• On Bank System Transparency:
  “You throw this stuff out out of the blue and it just goes out into the ether and people hear, oh, geez, Shopify is bigger than Visa when it's not even a snowball's chance in hell it'll ever be bigger than Visa.” (123:01 - John)
• On America's Geopolitical Moves:
  “I think Trump is just trolling Naito. He really want, he really wants the ships there. And that makes a lot of sense.” (104:18 - Adam)
• On the “Okie Doke”:
  “This is the problem. I can't disagree. Which is what you hate me saying. But there's every so often one of them snaps and goes over to...They say, wait a minute, I've been bull crap trapped. I'm. I'm not going to put up with this anymore.” (146:45 - John)

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Key Timestamps

00:22 – Congress inaction & political theatre
04:31 – Scott Adams tribute: career, mindset, and death
13:26 – Insights into Scott Adams’ time at PacBell & impact on 'Dilbert'
25:15 – Robert Jensen, media, and conspiratorial shifts
34:49 – Weight loss pharmaceuticals, native advertising, Oprah’s pivot
43:06 – AI, X Grok/Deepfakes, UK censorship push
54:57 – Pentagon’s AI war strategy: jargony new initiatives
61:03 – Cell outage, digital infrastructure fragility
67:08 – US deportation of felons to Africa, international backlash
76:28 – Iran protests, information operations, and skepticism
84:33 – Greenland—NATO rift, military build-up, Trump’s gambit
105:20 – The Federal Reserve, stablecoin, monetary policy debate
130:15 – US midterms, grassroots energy, Democrat ground games
140:26 – ICE, Minnesota, and national corruption
147:58 – Political polarization, Candace Owens, and media psychology
150:30 – Closing, meetups, and outro

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Final Thoughts & Tone

The show is an energetic, satirical, and skeptical deep-dive into the news-cycle, blending personal tributes, biting media analysis, and a focus on how narratives are constructed (or manipulated) across politics, pharma, technology, and global affairs. The banter is rich, with both hosts often prodding one another, pushing back, and punctuating the flow with quips, decades-long industry insight, and the kind of “backstage” stories and perspectives that set No Agenda apart.

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Recommended Listens:

• Scott Adams segment (starts ~04:31) for a unique, personal perspective on a cultural commentator.
• Pharma/Weight Watchers/Oprah critique (~34:49–41:47) for a sharp takedown of current health narratives.
• Greenland & NATO debate (~84:33–105:24) for high-level international analysis and humor.

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Listen for:

• The “Swarm Forge” AI war strategy segment.
• The ongoing "Who really controls the Fed?" debate.
• The candid tributes and candid takes on everything from TikTok to stablecoin to big pharma’s latest cash-in.
• The hilarious, unsparing, and multi-layered show art discussion.

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(For episode art, meetups, donation info, and links referenced, visit noagendashow.com.)

Transcript

[A]

What's the point of keeping it a big secret?

[B]

Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, January 15, 2026. This is your award winning give on Asian Media Assassination Episode 1834.

[A]

This is no Agenda cutting through the.

[B]

Crap and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill country right here in FEMA region number six in the morning everybody.

[A]

I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where nobody's surprised that President Clinton told Congress to pound salt. I'm John C. Dvor.

[B]

Is it pound salt or pound sand?

[A]

Well, he's pounding salt.

[B]

They said we're not come, we're not going to testify. You can't make us do that.

[A]

Steve Bannon in jail and Navarro in jail. They throw all these other. When the Democrats are running things and then once you know that it's Comers Committee. Oh, what do you think's gonna happen?

[B]

Yeah, nothing. Pretty much nothing.

[A]

Nothing. The guys that do nothing.

[B]

Yeah, it's amazing.

[A]

It's unbelievable. It's to the. James Comer is the biggest do nothing I've ever seen. I mean I'm still waiting for the Hunter Biden stuff. Well, we're connecting the dots with the banks. We see the crime family, you know, zip. Nothing.

[B]

Well, they're in Congress. It's not even their job to do that. This Justice Department, I don't see why anyone puts any faith in Congress to do any kind of, any, you know, locking people up.

[A]

And there was a period of time, if you recall, when I think the Republicans held Congress, but the president was Obama and they, and, and what's his name? The, the Attorney General, the, the black guy, Holder. Holder comes on and he, and he gives him a bold faced lie about some one thing or another about where all these missing weapons went to the cartels in Mexico. And they said well we're gonna, we're gonna get to the bottom of this and we're gonna. And then they, they actually sent in a referral so he could be in contempt of Congress for not answering some questions. Nothing, nothing came of it.

[B]

You seem surprised.

[A]

No.

[B]

You're just going off, are you just going off?

[A]

I'm just going, yeah. I'm not surprised at all.

[B]

I've been hearing this for 18 years. Everybody like of course, I mean, where's my 10,000 sealed indictments at? I gave up.

[A]

There's another one. We've got your. That guy disappeared. Of course he stopped talking.

[B]

I gave up.

[A]

Yeah. 10,000 seal. Who was that guy? What was the guy's name?

[B]

Judge Knapp.

[A]

No, degenerate What?

[B]

Yeah, whatever happened to him and his wife? Do they still do a podcast?

[A]

Indicted? They were in the 10,000 indictment.

[B]

I don't know. Joe Degener.

[A]

Did he. Come on. We had. We have tons of clips of him coming on, talking about tomorrow. It was always tomorrow. It wasn't like he pushed it off for a year. He was. Tomorrow they're going to release 10,000 sealed indictments.

[B]

Here, let's see. I have. This is. Let me see. What's a good one? I think this is a good one. Oh, wait, I have an ISO. What is this?

[C]

How many sealed indictments? There are more than 100,000.

[B]

That was. Hold on. We need, we need.

[A]

Yeah, Degenerate. Here we go.

[B]

Here's the general.

[C]

So we should see a report by the end of the summer. Are you hopeful?

[A]

I am. I'm a little surprised by the.

[B]

Oh, this is. This is when he was talking through his microphone.

[A]

That John Durham is going to publish a report before filing criminal charges. That's really fascinating to me. When I was an independent counsel of the United States, blah, blah, blah.

[B]

I don't want to hear him anymore. This sound is too bad, I guess. Does he do Chen?

[A]

Maybe he's dead.

[B]

Let's not make fun about dead people today. It's been a bad week. Let me see. Does he have a podcast?

[A]

Yeah, that would be it. Believe me, if he had a podcast, we'd be listening to it.

[B]

Joe. The American Spectator. Nah. No, he has no podcast. I don't know what happened to him. He's just gone. That's interesting.

[A]

Pull him from his assignment.

[B]

Somebody do a wellness check. So you already talked about in the newsletter, but we are obviously mourning the loss of Scott Adams.

[A]

Yes, he was a friend of the show for sure, and he didn't plug the show as much as he could have.

[B]

He never plugged the show. I don't think he ever plugged the show. Did he ever plug the show?

[A]

Once, I think once or. I know, a couple of times he mentioned the show.

[B]

No.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah, that's right, that's right. We would just say Dvorak and Curry. He wouldn't even say, no agenda. Thanks, Scott.

[A]

Yeah, it was stuff like that. But there was a number of things that were, you know, then there's all these tributes and they were all well deserved. I mean, the way I saw it, and I've known him for guess how.

[B]

Many years you have known him for? 32 years. 33 years.

[A]

Exactly 33.

[B]

What does that tell you?

[A]

Tells you something's up. So so he had. There's a couple of things that came about. I mean, I knew him early on and then I lost track of him for about a decade. I hadn't seen him. And then I started seeing him again last time I. When I saw him.

[B]

You interviewed him for the show.

[A]

Yes, we did. For the show.

[B]

We should repost that for sure.

[A]

Yes. I was thinking about it. Should repost it. And it brought a lot of stuff up. But he was a couple of things that people never got got to know about him. One, he was the. I think he was the hardest. He's a hard worker. He was just a killer hard worker. He was. He did. Even when the cartoon was largely canceled, he kept writing. Dilbert.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Which took a lot of work. He did about five books and he did a. He did about 50 cartoon books.

[B]

And do you remember when. When he got canceled and then he had this arm problems and he couldn't. He couldn't draw and he did all kinds of things to figure out how to still make the cartoon.

[A]

Yeah. He had a lot of physical issues that came and went. Yes. I remember the car. He couldn't draw for a while.

[B]

Kind of sucks as a cartoonist.

[A]

Yeah. But he got over it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And he would. Couple of things that you should know about him. One, he did not really like people.

[B]

No wonder you two got along. Amazing.

[A]

He didn't really like people. He said to me once, he said he doesn't have respect for people. And the reason was, he says, because everybody is so susceptible to suggestion that they can be easily manipulated. And he went on about this. He had this preoccupation with this manipulation thing. Which brings me to the commonplace that he was a trained hypnotist.

[B]

Yes. As he often said.

[A]

Yeah. Because he was a big believer in repeating stuff until it became true. There's no evidence of this. Who trained him and who does he ever hypnotize? Dude, you're gonna.

[B]

You're gonna kick the legs out from underneath the dead guy. Don't do that.

[A]

Don't just do that.

[B]

I'm protecting you here. Don't do that.

[A]

A couple. Okay, I won't go on about that. But. But I will. But if anyone likes his. Likes his cartoons. And I have a couple of panels, luckily I collected from years ago. When he drew. Actually drew the cartoons, not on the computer. He. That he got fired. The story about him getting fired is fascinating. So he was a bureaucrat type. He was not an engineer really. Even though he became one at Pacific Bell. He was a Pacific Telephone. Pacific Bell Pactel Pac Bell. He was a natural engineer. He was. He had the mentality of an engineer and he could. That's why he felt he could engineer everything. And so he worked at Crocker and Mimi's actually the one who helped him get his job at Crocker when she worked there.

[B]

No way. What's. What's Crocker? What's Crocker?

[A]

Crocker Bank. It used to be a famous bank in San Francisco Bay Area. And Scott worked there.

[B]

Wow. How did, how did Mimi hook up with him?

[A]

She didn't. She was. He was hanging out with a bunch of pot smokers.

[B]

Oh, comics. Comics, you mean.

[A]

No, no, no. He was hanging out with the. Some of the girls that worked at the bank and they were. And he was a pot smoker.

[B]

Hey girls, wants one.

[A]

A lid?

[B]

Want a copper lid?

[A]

He was a real heavy duty pot smoker. People have to realize we connected about it. It wasn't, it wasn't a secret.

[B]

No.

[A]

And so he worked at the bank and indeed, I don't know how he lost his job there because she was already gone by then. And he ended up going to work for Pac Bell and he was just doing system stuff and working on the computers. He got on the web early on. First guy ever showed me the web because I visited him at his offices and he.

[B]

Well, wait a minute. How did you meet him?

[A]

I don't know the origin. Oh, I can't remember. It was 33 years ago. I can't remember when I. How I hooked up with him. But I'm over there and he's shown me the web. And so he. And then about three years later after I. After that, about 96, I think they fired him from Pac Bell. And the story behind that is quite fascinating. What happened was they brought in some because Scott was not doing a lot of work at Pac Bell. But he was famous for doing Dilbert because Dilbert was a huge hit during that era when he was at Pac Bell. And so the salespeople from Pac Bell would use Scott as a foil to get appointments. He was their go to guy. Interesting for the sales team. And so they say, well, you know, we'd like to meet you about to do some, you know, some sort of whatever business the phone company does. But they do a lot of business, obviously. And we'll bring Scott Adams. You know Dilbert, he, we got him. He works for us. Oh yeah, sure, yeah. I didn't want to have the meeting, but now I do.

[B]

He always was thinking past the sale. That was of his big things, thinking past the sale.

[A]

So he was used as, as the guy, the debate for the sales team at Pac Bell. And they, they were just rolling in dough with this guy. A guy comes in who is. They just hired the guy and he's going to do a. What did you do? When you go from job to job to job to do, to check, see if these people are doing anything. There's a word term for it. Somebody in the chat.

[B]

Yeah, a fed. No, if we call that a fed in business speak, he's a fed man. He's checking to see if you're doing the job.

[A]

There's a term for this process and it's called. It's work analysis or something. I haven't been in business for so long I can't remember it. But so they brought this guy in to do efficiency analysis. And they go through one person after another and they get. The guy gets the Scott. He figures this guy's not doing anything.

[B]

Narc maybe Narc. Call him a narcissist.

[A]

And so they fire him because this guy comes in and the guy. This was unbeknownst to the sales team. And so Scott is out and so they freak out.

[B]

I remember you telling me this. Yeah, I remember this story.

[A]

They freak out and they try to get. And Scott is out now for about a month before they put two and two together. They try to get him back, but he looks at his cash flow and he says, I had to go into the office. Screw it. He never goes back. And so he stays out of the out for good. And the guy who fired him was depicted in his earlier cartoons. If anyone goes back to his cartoons, there's one guy with a full short facial beard. That guy, he's got a complete facial beard and black hair. And he's kind of a shorter guy. That's the guy who fired him. Put him in the.

[B]

Sorry, an auditor.

[A]

No, no, not.

[B]

Still trying to think of the name for that position.

[A]

There's a word for what it is. The same guys that were in. If you watch the movie Office Space, those two guys who come in to check on the employees.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

So he has that guy in the cartoons for a while and he's always an a hole. He finally dropped him because he wasn't really a good charact. The other, the other one I know there's the. The car. The woman that's in the cartoons has the triangle shaped hairdo. Yeah, she was actually. I actually chatted with her. She ended up working at Cisco.

[B]

And this is so deep, man. This Is great.

[A]

I love in the weeds stuff because.

[B]

People like hearing the guy.

[A]

And I mean, I went to his. Well, he had a chain of restaurants for a while. That was Stacy. He was financing this woman Stacy, and his restaurant, Stacy's. I went to lunch there. Couple at once, the one in Pleasanton and met Stacy. And I think he had a crush on her, but she was just using him to finance the restaurants.

[B]

He was not good at pulling the birds. I hear he was not really good at it.

[A]

Well, you know, I don't think he. I never could figure that part out. But he was funny. He had a dry, odd, dry, super dry sense of humor. That was quite.

[B]

Efficiency experts.

[A]

Yes, exactly.

[B]

Thank you, Trolls. Who said that? Who was that? Mvp. Oh, all right. Mark.

[A]

Yeah. Efficiency experts came in and this guy was the efficiency expert. He hired him. And about three months after the sales guys made a fuss, they fired him. He got fired.

[B]

The efficiency expert.

[A]

Yeah, of course.

[B]

Get rid of that guy. Wow, that's amazing.

[A]

So, you know. So Scott has a. Is an interesting. Was an interesting person. And he. It's a shame that he.

[B]

Well, you know, you and I had a little chat about it, and you said something very interesting. Can I just relay that?

[A]

Yeah, yeah. I'm kind of convinced of this, which. Because, well, it's based on one of my old stories, but. Yeah.

[B]

Well, go ahead then.

[A]

Well, I had this thesis, and it's not a thesis. It's something that everybody does. If you're a motorcyclist and you're on a dirt trail and you're bouncing around and you see a big.

[B]

You see a big rock, you know what's going to happen if you keep looking at the rock.

[A]

You look at the rock, you hit the rock. This is the. This is you. You always look where you're going. Not what you don't. What you're trying to avoid. If you're trying to avoid it and you look at it, you'll hit it. And this is the same thing with driving a car. And it turns out, because I was talking to Brunetti about this, and his wife Alex says, you do the same thing with horses.

[B]

Huh?

[A]

I don't know how that works.

[B]

My horse is going to stumble.

[A]

Well, you don't look at what the horse is going to hit. You look at where. You look where you're going. And I mentioned that to Mimi and she said, yeah, because she's a horse. She rides horses. And. Yeah, you do. You don't look at. It's the same thing. And Scott Adams was so Preoccupied with suggestibility to an extreme. I mean, he basically was looking at the rock all his life.

[B]

Yeah. The shoemaker's kids have no shoes.

[A]

And so he. So because he was so preoccupied with this, he was and believed in it so much that he himself was suggestible. And the only reason they came up with this is because he was. He sounded okay on his podcast until he went to the radiologist and the.

[B]

Radiologist said, put your affairs in order. It's over, son.

[A]

The radiologist. And Scott said it had no good news. I'm cooked. And he did not sound the same. He sounded like he was cooked.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

The radiologist, by the radiologist had suggested to him that he was through. And he took this because he's always looking at the rock. He hit the rock.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's just the thesis. I don't know. But I did notice the difference. And within five days he was done.

[B]

We got a lot of. Because people know about the connection between Scott and the show. And I just wanted to read one or two notes. Mitchell Reeves, he says in the morning. With the passing of Scott Adams, I felt it was important to tell you both how much you mean to me. See, this is what people do. Like, oh, crap, what if those guys go away? What am I gonn. How much? Yeah.

[A]

And they should.

[B]

Yes. I'm 32 years old, 33 in one month, with a wife and two young daughters. I'm approaching my last semester at law school. I work full time, go to law school at nights, but this guy's busy. The two of you, as well as Scott Adams have been with me the entire time and given me something to look forward to and have also helped me feel a lot less alone. It gives me a bit of escape from the stress I'm under right now. I always tell people my non negotiable, can't miss podcasts are no agenda and coffee with Scott Adams. I can say with certainty that I am better because of your show. And of course I don't want to make it about us, but I just thought that was interesting because I got a lot of those. I don't know if you got any emails, people saying, I got a few and based upon. I'm not going to recycle content based upon his last words, which his ex wife read. Pastor Jimmy and I had a conversation about whether he's going to heaven or not based upon his. His accepting Jesus as his Lord and savior. And one of our producers sent an interesting note. He said one of the persuasion tips Scott hammered on was thinking Past the sale, thinking past the sale was not about whether he was going to heaven. It was whether Jesus was real. And it seems like it's one of those last very Scott Adams type thing to do. And you can listen to the podcast to hear us talk about that. But a lot of people got really excited. Like, yes, he accepted Jesus on his. The deathbed conversion, we call it.

[A]

Yeah, I always thought of it when he did. That is a. Why take a chance.

[B]

Well, that's basically what he said.

[A]

Yeah. And that's the way he always was. Yeah.

[B]

What have I got to lose?

[A]

But the problem was his logic was because he was a natural engineer. It was to overthink everything. This is why. Yeah, this is why he got the vax. He was overthinking, for one thing. Unfortunately, being suggestible himself, he believed that the propaganda about the. Without question that came out of the government about. About Long Covid and its dangers and all the rest. This is what the. During that era where if you touch something, oh, you can pick up Covid from touching things. And so he bought into that and he was very adamant about it. But. But his earlier mistake, and I think I pointed this out on the show before, which irked him to no end, was his decision, but through his own logic. And I. I can still see him doing this on the blackboard. He is his whiteboard, actually. And he had. Where's the origins of this come from? And he had two choices. He broke it all down on the blackboard. And one was the virology lab that investigated coronaviruses in Wuhan and the wet market. And through some screwball logic which I never could understand, he says, it's so obvious to me that it's the wet market. He.

[B]

Well, he later rescinded that.

[A]

Well, yeah, sure.

[B]

Yeah. People are yelling at him. No, man. No, no, no, no, no, don't do that.

[A]

Yeah, he's pretty good at. He was very good at resisting people yelling at him. So because he was. You got very.

[B]

You got it.

[A]

He was very. Yeah, well, they. But he was also. He was. He got into Trouble once about 20 years ago with some back and forth that was going on online. I had to chat with. I talked to him over the phone about it because I had a solution and I told him how important it was he had to fix this because I had gotten into a online mess years earlier.

[B]

Yeah, with the Mac people. They hated you.

[A]

Well, no, it was something that he said on. It was something I said when CompuServe had these forums, we had ZD's net or something on there. And there was. I had taken a stand on some stupid.

[B]

You were. You were taking a stand against social media in the early, early days.

[A]

No, it was about something else, about some product. And I had one of the. A friend of mine called me up. He says, you got to stop. And because he says, this is just getting out of control. Just apologize and you'll be good to go. And so. Which is the same thing I kind of told Scott and I did, and it just ended.

[B]

Oh, well, crap. He's not arguing anymore. Go figure. Let's move on.

[A]

There's just a lot of argumentation that people like to do. They just like to argue.

[B]

You know, speaking of the vax and choices, just to pivot a little bit for a second, because I think we've discussed Scott and we miss him. He was good. It was fun for podcasting.

[A]

Oh, he was great podcaster. Natural.

[B]

And I was always. Envious is not the right word, but I always thought his simultaneous sip was a genius podcasting thing.

[A]

It was a gimmick. It was a good one.

[B]

It was a great gimmick. That was really good. So RFK Jr sent a letter to Germany, a stern letter, I'm sure, sealed with his night ring and sealing wax. And it's about a similar topic. Hi, I'm Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. Your HHS secretary. Welcome to the podcast, everybody. These guys are all doing podcasts now. Hi, I'm Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. Your HHS justice secretary. Today, I want to tell you about a letter that I just sent to Germany's Federal Minister of Health, Nina Warkin. Because what's happening in Germany right now demands a clear public response from the United States of America. We don't know why, but I've learned that more than a thousand German physicians and thousands of their patients now face prosecution and punishment for issuing exemptions from wearing masks or. Or getting COVID 19 vaccines during the pandemic. When any government criminalizes doctors for advising their patients, it crosses the line that free societies have always treated as sacred. In my letter, I explain that Germany is targeting physicians who put their patients first and punishing citizens for making their own medical choices. The German government is now violating the sacred patient physician relationship, replacing it. Where was he during COVID Did he speak up during COVID about this? No, I can't recall. With a dangerous system that makes physicians enforcers of state policies, your health is no longer your doctor's priority. Under this system, your doctor instead is serving the welfare of the collective as determined by unelected technocrats with no medical training. Anybody can see the danger in this system. No democracy, grounded confidence and transparency should move in that direction. Patients must always have the freedom to make personal medical decisions without coercion or political pressure. That principle forms the bedrock of every democratic nation. Okay, well, we're going to remember you said that, RFK Jr. I'm not quite sure why he's doing this other than to get people to smash that, like, button. It was just like, okay, well, I wish we had had that voice of yours in 2020-2019-2020-2021, 2022. And his voice sounds better. Actually, when I think about it, that sounds.

[A]

You can hear him?

[B]

Yeah, it's better. So another person died. You only know him because we got some donations because of him. Robert Jensen.

[A]

Yeah. He's one of your buddies in Holland.

[B]

Yeah. And I would say one of my friends, certainly, maybe. I talked to three people in Holland, still excluding my daughter, and he had a massive heart attack on Monday at 52. And it's just like, oh, man. During COVID he called me up because he had a TV show. It was a fun interview, kind of like Tonight show vibe with, you know, people sitting in chairs. And he's interviewing, but he was funny. Like, he had a bit of Letterman in there. He was a good guy. And he also came when I was still in downtown Austin in the. In the apartment. He came by and he was doing a whole thing about Trump. And during COVID his TV showed, they wanted to renew him. He said, no, I don't feel like doing it. And then we were talking. I said, well, man, why don't you just do a podcast? And he said, yeah, but, you know, advertise. I said, no, just do Value for value. And he was a very, very successful value for value podcaster. He really did a good job. And although he added merch, which I said, why are you doing? But he was making the T shirts in his house. So he had, yeah, I guess if.

[A]

You want to be a hobbyist, merch in your house because you got a little room.

[B]

Whenever he came out with a hoodie or something, I'd order it. And he was a good guy. And we hadn't spoken for a couple months. It was. Which I'm. I guess I'm sad about, because he wanted to. He asked me to come back on. I said, yeah. I said, but I can't do it now. I said, what, are you mad at me? I said, I'm not mad. I'm just busy. I got other stuff going On. But he had also. He'd interviewed David. Ike. And he had taken such a right hand turn then. And his whole demeanor I found to be depressing. Like Ike.

[A]

He got to be an Ikelite.

[B]

Yes, an Ike ite.

[A]

An Ike.

[B]

Yeah. And like, you know, nothing is real. We don't exist. You know, lizard people. It's all energy. You just happen to see it now and it was. It was. It was just. It went really far with that. And it didn't look like he was happy about it. So I'm sad that I didn't get to talk to him, but a lot. My phone's been ringing all morning. I see you, Dutch. M5M. I'm not picking up. Like, ooh, area code. Country code three one. Yeah, I'm not picking up. Oh, please. We want a statement from you about Robert. No, I despise that when people do that.

[A]

So anyways, you give him a statement and say if you'll give them a statement if they plug the no Agenda show. Come on.

[B]

What was I thinking? I'm so sorry for that huge no Agenda show audience. Y. Yes, well, actually, Holland is.

[A]

We got a big audience today.

[B]

Holland is. But they know. They already know. And then you know what? They'll cut that out if I say, you know, if you say, well, no Agenda show, they'll cut out. They don't. They don't.

[A]

No, you have to tell them you have. They have to put it in.

[B]

It doesn't work like that. You. You talk for 20 minutes, they do a 30 second sound bite.

[A]

I know how they do it, but.

[B]

You wind up hating it. You wind up hating it. And Robert would have hated it too.

[A]

Okay, well, you're. It's your decision.

[B]

I can't believe it. My friend died. You're bummed. The fact that I didn't take advantage of the opportunity to promote the show.

[A]

I guess. That's terrible.

[B]

You're the best. Well, let's make this solemn agreement. Whoever dies first, the other one will use the opportunity to promote the show with whoever's left. And Darren.

[A]

Darren, don't say that. Darren will find some way of shooting us.

[B]

So. But that is life, people. That is life and.

[A]

Yeah, well, that's interesting. I can't imagine it would just having a meeting with David, Ike and then going south.

[B]

Oh, he totally bought into it. And we both like Ike, you know?

[A]

Yeah, I like Ike.

[B]

He's done a lot of really interesting stuff, but he was, you know, in Ike's world, it's just. Forget about it, you know, the elites.

[A]

Has Ike ever cracked a smile? Has Ike ever told a joke? Has Ike ever laughed at anything? No, the guy's humorless.

[B]

Yeah, well that, that was the direction I felt Robert was going. Yeah, he would smile, he would laugh, but everything was just like, you know, it's like Ike has given up. You know, it's like he'll still write books and do his tours and everything but you can't help it, you can't stop it. Trump is one of them. They're all part of it, you know, they're all.

[A]

Trump was one of them.

[B]

Oh yeah, no, Trump, Trump is going to bring in the CBDC and the digital ID and the LMNLP and the AI and it's over. And you just got to at home and it's just coming just, you know. Yeah, it's like so, you know. No, no. Yeah, you're right. Missing a bit of the humor. And when Robert started, man, it was, he was funny. When he started with the, with the podcast he said some really outrageously funny stuff. Anyway, so there you go. The older you get, the more they drop by the wayside. So on that happy note, the astronauts are back.

[A]

The SpaceX Dragon capsule splashed down off the San Diego coast around 3:40 this morning. His new video showing the four person crew leaving the hatch.

[B]

Their mission to the International Space Station was cut short due to a medical concern with a crew member.

[A]

Officials have not explained the concern but confirmed that astronaut is stable.

[B]

So of course we still don't really know who's pregnant but it probably would be the one female who returned because that is the show Thesis on Deutsch Cheveller though they brought in an analyst. This is the NASA groupie and he did have something relatively interesting to say.

[A]

Well, NASA is bringing a four person crew back from the International Space Station due to medical issues.

[B]

It's the first evacuation of its kind.

[A]

U.S. russian and Japanese astronauts undocked from.

[B]

The station after five months in space.

[A]

NASA has declined to disclose which crew member has the health problem or give details about the issue. But the usual space agency has stressed.

[B]

That the return isn't an emergency.

[A]

It's great to welcome Keith Cowing back to dw. He's editor of NASA watch dot com. Hi Keith. Now this is the first medical evacuation from the ISS in its 25 year history.

[B]

We don't know what the exact medical.

[A]

Problem is, but it's evidently serious enough to cut the mission short.

[B]

How are you reading into this? If somebody, and I don't know who it is or what's wrong with them.

[A]

If someone was really, really sick, they.

[B]

Could have been home in a matter of hours. They just get the suits on, push.

[A]

A button and come home. The fact that it takes a few.

[B]

Days and they're all happy and smiling makes me think that if anything, it's probably something as simple as they don't have a CAT scanner up there, they have a lot of medical devices and medicines, but there's some medical gear that you just don't have in space. And to adequately help this person, the smart thing is to bring them home and they're more or less at the end of their stay up there. So a lot of work has not been sacrifice.

[A]

What an apologist, this guy, right?

[B]

Emergency.

[A]

It's just, don't worry about it.

[B]

Or quick or a short end to a long trip.

[A]

Who cares?

[B]

5. Very suspicious. I think you're spot on, man. And notice the black guy stayed behind. He didn't leave. Just saying. Well, got some. Got some jungle fever?

[A]

Well, yeah, you might. I don't know. That's pushing it. I mean, it's possible, but whatever the case was, I'm sure I. I have night. See the. I'd be asking, if I was a reporter in this situation, I'd say, is it. I would have asked the pregnancy question right away, of course, but I. But I also would have say, is there anything that anyone has assigned to refrain from sex when they're. Because this is an interesting question that people would want to know.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Do you have to. Do you sign a document, an NDA of sorts, that says you have to refrain from sex while you're in the space station? Do you have to. Is there anything like that that's signed? Or do you have to agree, especially if you're a female, to not have sex? Okay.

[B]

You get a waiver from HR or something.

[A]

I mean, while you're in outer space. Because they don't want anybody having sex in outer space because they don't know what the results would be for the baby. And there's all these issues and if you get pregnant, you won't fit into the suit. I mean, that's the thing, it seems to me.

[B]

Thank you very much for the art. Comic strip blogger.

[A]

We'll be thankful. Comic strip blogger. Nailed it.

[B]

Nailed it. He nailed it. Yeah.

[A]

The pregnant girl in a pregnancy.

[B]

We deserve an answer, but I think we should know this. You know, this great expense. We brought them back.

[A]

It's not cheap and they're going out of their way to avoid saying what it is. Why was it a hangnail Is it a toenail? Ingrown toenail? I mean, what's the point of keeping it a big secret? Somebody got, you know, have some ulcers. I mean, what could it be?

[B]

Upset tummy? Something's wrong. Yeah, we deserve answers. Well, let's just stay with health and pharma for a second. There is a massive ad campaign underway right now which is both explicit and native. Here is the, here is the ad.

[C]

The new Wegovy pill is now available through Weight watchers. Finally, powerful GLP1 results in a simple pill at the lowest price available. Get this doctor Support, personalized nutrition programs and side effect management all in one place. I can't imagine being on a GLP1 without Weight Watchers. And Weight Watchers handles the insurance for you and offers affordable cash pay options. See if you qualify for the wegovy.

[B]

[e-mail] TV it's amazing how Weight Watchers, which literally had a program with points and it was about how much, how.

[A]

Much you eat, what you ate, how you ate. They had meals, they had the, the whole thing was all about natural weight loss. How do you lose weight? You do this, you do that, you exercise, you do that now. Oh dear. Take this pill. We'll co sponsor it. What?

[B]

And we remember Oprah now. This was a year ago, maybe even longer.

[A]

I think it was longer.

[B]

She's a shareholder in Weight Watchers. She was on the board and they decided maybe we should just hop on this GLP1 bandwagon.

[A]

Well, she quit then, hasn't she gave up?

[B]

If you recall, she left the board and she donated her shares, which is a huge tax write off. She donated her shares to some nonprofit and now she's back. And of course she shows up on CBS with her, with her BFF Gail.

[C]

Oprah reveals how she went from blaming.

[A]

And shaming herself to transforming her health.

[C]

The book is co written by Dr. Anya Yasterboff. She is the founding director of Yale Obesity Research center and an expert in.

[A]

Obesity and GLP based medications.

[C]

GLP one based medications.

[A]

We're very happy to say that Oprah.

[C]

And Dr. Anya are here in the studio with us. Good morning. Good morning. It's good to have you here.

[B]

Hi Dr. Anya.

[A]

Yeah, I wanted to share because I've always, when I discovered something that I thought was important for other people, I.

[B]

Always wanted to share.

[A]

And I remember doing a show many years ago and Janet Jackson was on it, had lost weight and I said.

[B]

If there's ever a pill, I will be the first one to tell you.

[A]

About it. And so now there actually is a pill.

[B]

But more importantly than a pill is.

[C]

Understanding that obesity is a disease. And if you have this chronic disease.

[A]

It is not because you are overeating, it's because you have the disease that causes you to overeat.

[B]

And I did not know this until.

[A]

What's the bacterial agent or viral agent that causes this disease?

[B]

What, you're going to get technical now?

[A]

I'm just asking. Disease is. We know what the definition of disease is. It's something that's caused by a viral or bacterial agent or some parasite.

[B]

Perhaps it can be dis ease. You're just at dis ease. You know, it depends on how you do it.

[A]

Oh yeah, you're not at ease. Oh, I get it.

[B]

Dis ease. And I did not know this until 2023.

[C]

For so long when I was raised, we always thought just willpower because I was at Weight Watchers and got my keto his success three times and thought, now I'm done. Now it's just a matter of willpower. And you're saying, Dr. Anya, no matter how much you do and how much willpower you think you have, that is not enough.

[A]

So now I realize that I'm on.

[C]

The medications and will have to be.

[A]

On the medications if I want to for the rest of my life. Because I did a year last year, from my 70th birthday until my 71st.

[C]

Birthday, I. I tried to be without the medication. You stopped taking.

[A]

I stopped taking.

[C]

And what happened?

[B]

Cuz I wanted to prove you wrong.

[C]

Yes, you are wrong.

[B]

I have reached the weight, the goal weight.

[C]

And I can fix it.

[A]

And what happened is I gained three.

[B]

Pounds and five pounds and seven pounds.

[C]

Were you eating more food?

[B]

No, I wasn't.

[A]

I was.

[C]

No, I was.

[A]

Oh, no, I wasn't eating anything.

[B]

You're drinking water six miles a day.

[A]

Doing all the things magic, still gain weight.

[C]

Over Christmas, I gained eight pounds. And then, you know, so I thought, maybe you're right, maybe the science is right.

[A]

And I got back on the medication science.

[B]

The science is right. And along with that comes more native advertising. Listen to this report.

[C]

Weight loss medications like Wegovy and Ozempic have changed the game for people looking.

[B]

To notice how WeGovy is now. First it used to be like Ozempic and then there'd be, you know, all the other ones. Now Wegovy, who are the ones footing the bill? They're the ones that are first.

[A]

Duh.

[B]

They're the ones that are first.

[C]

Weight loss medications like Wegovy and Ozempic have changed the game for people looking to shed a few pounds. However, new research shows people who stop taking the drugs could see an increased risk of diabetes and heart disease. The study, published in the British Medical Journal reviewed the trials of more than 6,000 adults who use GLP1s and other weight loss drugs. The results are a cautionary tale as people who went off the medicine regained weight almost four times faster than those who simply stopped exercising or didn't stick to a healthy diet. That rapid weight gain then had a domino effect on overall health as people then had an increased risk of developing conditions like high cholesterol and high blood pressure. Doctors say the findings point to how these medications are not a quick fix and anyone looking to take the drugs should consider the long term effect effects.

[B]

Yeah. And otherwise you take it, you can't stop taking it. But this is good news. According to cnbc, Wall street is happy. Airlines are going to headline. Airlines will save big money on fuel as new weight loss pills gain popularity. Yeah, that's not a native ad.

[A]

That's a good one.

[B]

Literally. I mean these guys are so shameless. Wall street is finding an unexpected beneficiary of America's weight loss boom. Airlines with the. With the first GLP1 weight loss drug now available in pill form. Link analysts link Analysts at Jeffrey say broad adoption across society could quietly lower fuel bills.

[A]

I'm all in on the. I think it's also going to save on pavement in the traffic.

[B]

There you go.

[A]

You won't have to pave the road so much because all these fat people won't be driving. You won't hit. There's a lot of benefits.

[B]

Well, that's only if we get it on Medicare. Only then, only then, then will it. This is all. This push is coming again. We gotta get it in. We gotta get it in. It's a happening. Gotta get it. Make the insurers pay for it, everybody. It's all good. It's fabulous. So that was your native ad of the day. There's some a lot going on.

[A]

They have to stop. This is Kennedy. You brought him up earlier. Oh, he's bitching him on it. Germany, who cares what they do. And Canada did it too, by the way. Didn't say anything to them. Why doesn't he say something about, about this, about these advertising? He was one of his things. Stop letting these guys advertise on tv. And that would include native advertising.

[B]

Well, it clearly doesn't because they're not doing any disclaimers at all. At all. In fact, I think I had a.

[A]

Actually the native. You're right because native advertising is more effective because they don't have to do the disclaimers.

[B]

In fact, I think I saw a report which we didn't talk about on the last show that the fda. Yes, where was this? The FDA said the weight loss guys can take off the warning that it could cause suicidal tendencies or self harm. Thoughts as we call it now because there's no evidence of it. The FDI FDA was saying that to the, to the weight loss people. And I'm still waiting for, for the erectile dysfunction benefit. It's a come.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, that's that. This is. I don't think they're gonna need to do it. That's the rabbit out of a hat.

[B]

Once, once it goes there, man, boom, boom. We're all good. Give me that stuff. So I gotta. I got a disturbing had a disturbing email conversation this morning with Boots on the Ground and it pertains to this particular story, which of course really has nothing to do with. With X other than the UK doesn't like people being able to speak out freely on X and have that, you know, have that flow through everywhere in the uk. We can't have that. Here's the report and I'll tell you what. The Boots on the Ground report was.

[C]

Facing pressure from governments around the world. Elon Musk is ra reining in his controversial AI tool Grok. On Wednesday, X announced that it would no longer generate undressed images of real people in jurisdictions where this is illegal. It was a welcome development in the.

[B]

UK by the way. We called this. We called this right away. This is a big feature. Put a bikini on her. A big feature where Grok and X.

[C]

Are under investigation for generating sexualized deepfakes of women and children. If UK watchdog Ofcom determines to has broken the law, it can find X for up to 10% of its global revenue.

[B]

I have been informed this morning that X is acting to ensure full compliance with UK law. If so, that is welcome, but we're not going to back down. We will strengthen existing laws and prepare for legislation if it needs to go further.

[C]

The limits imposed on Grok's image generation came hours after California prosecutors also opened a probe into the chat box. Amid backlash last week, Grok limited the ability to create AI images to paying subscribers. But this was far from enough for women's rights groups who called for X and Grok to be removed from app stores.

[B]

Listen to this definition.

[C]

Decrying this new widespread form of sexual abuse. We are really imploring Apple and Google to take this extremely seriously. They are enabling a system in which which thousands, if not tens of thousands of people, particularly women and children, are being sexually abused through the help of their own app stores.

[B]

So this is now sexual abuse.

[A]

Yeah. And this is really about all the bikini pictures of Starmer. That's definitely not about any kids. Put a bikini on a little kid. No, let's put a bikini on Starmer. And they keep doing it. Then he sits there talking. Some of the Starmer stuff's hilarious. I have one clip about something adjacent to this.

[B]

Well, can I. Can I give my boots on the ground before you move on and move off the top?

[A]

Maybe this adjacent clip might add to the boots on the ground.

[B]

Ok. Ava, your buddy. Oh, you actually clipped that. I was like, this is F, A, F O. It wasn't surprising to me. Well, we'll play it.

[A]

I thought it was surprising to me.

[B]

What do you mean? She was out there protesting with Tommy Robinson.

[A]

Okay, I won't play the clip.

[B]

No, we'll play.

[A]

No one will know what it.

[B]

I want to play because when I, you know, people, of course, 50 people sent this to me, tagged me in every post.

[A]

I'm like, well, because you're her friend.

[B]

I have never met the woman.

[A]

Well, she should be your friend.

[C]

So I just got an email I didn't expect. I have officially been banned from traveling to the United Kingdom. I'm not allowed to enter the country.

[B]

It's actually. I'll just call it what it is. What she did here is engagement farming. I mean, if you're gonna go out there and into the uk, which is not part of the EU anymore, in case you hadn't noticed, and you're gonna say, hey, you guys suck, Keir Starmer, you suck. And then you're. We do that here. We do that here. I mean, like, if you want to come in and we see that you say America sucks.

[A]

Okay, you played the important part of the clip so you don't have to play anymore.

[B]

I want to play the whole thing now.

[C]

The UK government on their. Keir Starmer deems my presence in the UK and I quote, not conducive to the public good. I don't know what that means. Since when is being conducive to the public good a requirement to enter a country? I mean, especially.

[B]

You're undesirable is what you are.

[C]

The United Kingdom, where, if I'm not mistaken, thousands of illegal immigrants.

[B]

Oh, okay. This is. This is what we're gonna do. Oh, yeah, but all the illegal immigrants could come in. But I can't come. This is engagement farming.

[C]

Enter through the channel every day.

[B]

And you guys.

[A]

She does. That's what she does. She's. Yeah, she's good at it.

[B]

You got to do it in your car. That's the best. I don't. Why don't we do this show from the car? And we're.

[A]

I am in the car.

[C]

To be conducive to the public good, but I cannot come. And now this email came out of the blue, in a sense that I didn't apply for an ita. Now, I. I went back in September to join the Tommy Rush Robinson rally where I spoke.

[B]

Yeah, there it is.

[C]

I am planning. I was planning, I should say, to do that again in May. Guess not. Guess not. And now the timing is quite suspicious, isn't it?

[B]

Suspicious? It's. I'm just asking questions.

[A]

She's the Candace Owens of Holland.

[C]

Because three days ago I posted this about Keir Starmer calling out his hypocrisy that he wants to ban any because of women's safety, whilst at the same time he's the one who's allowing these migrant gang rapes to happen. Obviously, he's just doing that because he wants to ban free speech. And that is also the reason why I am now not anymore allowed to go to the uk. But it's. It's pretty. It's pretty dystopian. I mean, it's a very, very severe limitation of my freedom. And as it says in the email, I cannot appeal. I cannot appeal. I'm not convicted of any crime. I'm not under suspicion of any crime. They just decided. Keir Starmer just decided that someone like me is not welcome in the uk.

[B]

Yes. Well, yes, you're a troublemaker and you're hanging out with troublemakers and they don't want you there. And by the way, why do you care? Because it's so great. It's cold, it's wet, the buildings are ugly and cold. You don't want to go there. There's no reason for you to go. But you want to go to Harrods. Well, all you see is Muslim women all over the place. It's not fun anymore. I love that.

[A]

Some pretty good jams at Fortnum and Mason.

[B]

Well, you can order those online.

[A]

Yeah, but, you know, the price of shipping is ridiculous.

[B]

So one of our producers, who's a dude named Ben Grok, says, and this was an interesting back and forth, he says, I don't know what to do. I just reached out to you. Okay. It's regarding sexually explicit images of minors being created by Grok on its own. He says he claims without evidence. Without evidence, despite prompts explicitly requesting the opposite. I have photos and screenshots and copies of prompts. Currently, Elon says all of the explicitly sexual content is being generated because of user prompts. I have proof that Elon is absolutely wrong. Response was, do not, repeat, do not send me anything. Do not have any of this so called evidence on your device because that is a very dangerous situation because they'll be used against you. And Elon indeed is saying, what did he say here? I'm not aware of any naked, underage images generated by Grok.

[A]

But wait, what's going to be used against you again?

[B]

If you have. If you have.

[A]

If I have a prompt saying, put a big.

[B]

No, no, no. Know this. He says that there are underage minors that are being depicted by Grok, you know, in a sexual way. So I said I. Do not send me any pictures. That's what I said. I learned that from you.

[A]

Oh, you're so. Okay, I'm messing up. Who's talking here?

[B]

Yeah. And I say you shouldn't have them either, because that will be used against you. Get rid of it.

[A]

Yes. And this is the reason that I've said this before. I'll say it again. You get a 22 terabyte hard drive. I don't know if you ordered yours.

[B]

I did.

[A]

All it does is collect all the evidence against you because we don't do any cleanup anymore. When I was a kid, we had our hard disk, it was a nine megabyte hard disk. And you'd clean it up because you'd run out of room. And so you'd go and take old files off. No, nobody does that anymore. You just accumulate everything you've ever done. It builds up and builds up. And then when the FBI takes the hard disk, there's definitely something on there that shouldn't be.

[B]

Always, always. There's always something on that shouldn't be there. Meanwhile, there has been a change. Although this is funny window dressing, I feel. Keir Starmer has announced the digital id. Well, we've got a change in mind for that.

[A]

The government has confirmed that it is to scrap the compulsory element of its flagship digital ID ID scheme, which was supposed to deter people from traveling to the UK to work illegally. Zakir Starmer unveiled the policy last autumn as part of a crackdown on migration. But in the latest in a series of U turns, the government has announced that workers will be given the chance to use other forms of ID to verify their eligibility.

[B]

What a trap. He said. This is great. Oh, okay. It's not going to be used for that. Oh, I just might as well get it. It's easy.

[A]

I never knew it was going to be used. I thought it was just going to be used for surveillance.

[B]

No. Well, duh. But they were selling it. The whole selling point was if you don't have a digital id, you can't work. And now it's like, well, we're not going to make it like that, so don't worry about it. You might as well just download it and use it. It's going to be fine. It's a trap. It's a trap.

[A]

They're going ahead with this.

[B]

Oh yeah, of course.

[A]

Idiots.

[B]

That's fantastic. It's great. So Jony I've. And Sam Altman. This is all the rumor mill, but you know the Chinese factory. Johnny Ives. I'm Jony, I've. And I invented the iPhone. So you know, there's this long rumored OpenAI device that people are talking about, which of course is necessary because OpenAI is falling behind in my opinion.

[A]

Behind.

[B]

Certainly behind Gemini now who just signed the big Apple deal. Do you think that. Do you think that Apple is going to get paid by like the way they were paid by Google to put Google search as the default?

[A]

That's what I would do.

[B]

I would do it too. So apparently OpenAI to go codename Sweet Pea. It'll be a little tiny little thing you. You put behind your ear.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

A little egg shaped case right behind the. I guess they're going to use bone induction. Then it will be your assistant in daily life. So as you're looking at something.

[A]

Oh my God. If there's anything in the world I don't want. Is that some little thing carping at me about one thing or another?

[B]

Move away. This guy's no good. He has a very low credit score. Move away. Move away.

[A]

The whole credit score.

[B]

Yeah. That wasn't bad enough. The War Department has launched its AI acceleration strategy to secure American military AI dominance. I won't even read it to you. It's so dumb. More AI in the War Department. Swarmforge. Yeah, some of these names are cool. In war fighting. Swarm Forge. Competitive.

[A]

Why is Swarm Forge? Doesn't even make any sense.

[B]

Well, let's listen to the definition. Competitive mechanism to iterate discover, test and scale novel ways of fighting with and against AI abilities.

[A]

It sounds like they hired someone from Silicon Valley to write that copy.

[B]

Combining America's elite war fighting units with elite technology innovators. Yes, I think you're right. Swarm Forge. I like. I want to. I want a badge. I want to write that down. Swarm Forge.

[A]

Swarm Swarge.

[B]

Then we have Agent network unleashing AI agent development and experimentation for AI enabled battle management and decision support from campaign planning to kill chain execution. This is what?

[A]

Kill chain execution?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Oh, this is Silicon Valley talk.

[B]

Then we have the Enders.

[A]

Who the hell got in there from Silicon Valley with all this gobbledygook?

[B]

Google, I think mainly Ender's Foundry. Ender's Foundry. Accelerating AI enabled simulation capabilities and sim dev and sim ops feedback loops.

[A]

To.

[B]

Ensure we stay ahead of AI enabled adversaries. Then we have under intelligence, that was all war fighting. Now under intelligence, Open Arsenal. Who comes up with these?

[A]

They're not very good. And yeah, Open Arsenal is no good.

[B]

No, I like Swarm Forge, though. I like that.

[A]

I don't know why you like that wording. Doesn't make any. Swarm Forge. I just. The whole thing doesn't make any sense. If you think of the two words.

[B]

I think Swarm Forge to be a. An Eagle Scout badge you can get. I got my Swarm for title.

[A]

Put it down in the list.

[B]

Oh, I wrote it down. And then of course, the last thing on the big tech agenda was the big outage. The big outage.

[A]

And good evening.

[B]

We begin tonight with the nation's largest cell phone service provider in the middle of one of the worst outages ever.

[A]

Customers across the country unable to call, text or scroll.

[B]

It's kind of like Iran as the company scrambles to get fully back up and running. Listen, how pathetic are we as a nation? Let's just. Let's just listen. Listen.

[A]

To call.

[B]

Yeah, here we go.

[A]

Customers across the country unable to call, text or scroll.

[B]

Oh, no, my life is over. I can't call text or scroll. Oh, what am I gonna do? As the company scrambles to get fully back up.

[A]

What?

[B]

Huh?

[A]

Wait. Scroll. What? I can scroll.

[B]

Not. Yeah, please, please, let's not go through this loop again where you tell everybody that you're great on the computer. You got a desktop and you can scroll.

[A]

People don't even scroll on a phone with Verizon being out.

[B]

What are you going to scroll like a text like. Just like a.

[A]

There's stuff on the. On the phone to scroll. Look at this map.

[B]

These are just some of the most populated areas of the country and the hardest hit by the outage. This is what many customers saw today on Their phones. The dreaded SOS Meaning no bars and no service. Oh, no. It's dreaded city officials from New York to Charlotte to D.C. even warning that.

[A]

Impacted customers might not be able to get through to 91 1. Now Verizon is racing to fix the problem and find out what exactly went wrong.

[B]

Brian Chung has fallen all of it for us tonight. Well, Brian Chung, guess, guess who they blame. It's almost. It's almost like us blaming Canada.

[A]

I. I don't know who they would. They blamed. Putin? I don't know. No.

[B]

New Jersey. Tonight, the major meltdown for the nation's largest wireless carrier.

[C]

Your call cannot be completed at this time.

[B]

Verizon customers across the country cut off by a massive network outage. The trouble began around noon Eastern time with the outage tracking website downdetector.com listing New York, Philadelphia, Houston, Atlanta, and Miami.

[A]

As among the places with the most reported issues.

[B]

Emergency management teams in multiple cities warning.

[A]

That people may not be able to call 911.

[C]

If you have access to a landline, use that.

[B]

And if that isn't possible, go to.

[C]

A police precinct or go to a fire.

[B]

Verizon customers taking to social media expressing outrage that they couldn't contact loved ones.

[C]

Baby, this is unacceptable.

[B]

Or steak. Great. Natpop connected for work.

[A]

Verizon counter days because I literally had.

[B]

To stop at Starbucks.

[A]

Verizon telling NBC News that their team.

[B]

Was on the ground actively working to.

[A]

Fix the issue, adding that we know this is a huge inconvenience.

[B]

The company did not provide a reason for the outage. Verizon, with more than 146 million wireless customers, often promotes itself as the most reliable network with its famous catch line.

[A]

There's only one best 5G.

[B]

You hear me now? But tonight, the advice from officials for when you can't.

[C]

It's also a good reminder for people.

[B]

To have an emergency plan, to have backups. Plan A, plan B. Yeah. Ham radio is your backup. Ham radio. Have you seen the new Baofengs?

[A]

The new what?

[B]

The new Baofengs.

[A]

No, I haven't.

[B]

Oh, man. They're completely digital. They got a huge. Still 35 bucks. Still 35 bucks.

[A]

So cheap.

[B]

It's still 30. And you can get 10 watts out of them, which, of course, is outside of the realm of legality, according to the.

[A]

Well, it's also not too good for your health or there's most. Your head.

[B]

Yeah, well, that's true. So, anyway, I have other clips, but it turns out it was a software glitch in New Jersey. Okay, okay. What kind of world are we? The Internet, everything, It's all so centralized. This is not how we designed it, John, you and I, and we sat down like, we're not going to. We shouldn't design this this way.

[A]

The whole idea of the Internet was designed to withstand a nuclear attack. Yes, that was the idea.

[B]

That was.

[A]

Let's set up a network that you could do. Whatever happens, you could bomb New York City with a. With a.

[B]

With a.

[A]

The H bomb. And the network would still be going because it goes from here. And if it gets blocked here, it goes around. It goes over to here, then it goes around and. So when did that change to, like, three nodes?

[B]

Yeah, that's what it is. Although, you know, I have the Galaxy New Galaxy phone that I got, the Flip. Flip phone, because I need to do real business. So now I'm tracked. But it does. It is one of those phones that can talk to.

[A]

What real business are you doing that you need to be tracked?

[B]

No, not tracked. I need to be able to communicate with people who are on iPhones.

[A]

Because if you can't do that with.

[B]

Your other phone, if you don't have an RCS compatible phone, which is supposed to be the hybrid, so that iPhones and Android phones can talk to each other. When you're texting, the chances are that your message won't come through, will get missed, you get kicked out of a group. Group are very high.

[A]

Oh, no. Yeah, terrible.

[B]

Yeah. I have a business. I'm running a business over here. It's called Godcaster. You know that. I guess.

[A]

So Godcaster requires you to be in the network to be tracked.

[B]

Well, no, it requires me to be able to communicate with the worst communicators in the world, which are pastors. Yeah. So. But by default, then you get tracked.

[A]

Of course, once you just have a.

[B]

Second phone, what difference does it make? Okay. All right, thanks.

[A]

Well, because you can drive around without the second phone.

[B]

Well, I guess I'm driving around with my phone. When I'm driving, I'm driving. I'm not on my phone. I'm not texting people. I'm listening to podcasts.

[A]

That's why I'm imagining you on the phone. Texting while driving and.

[B]

No.

[A]

And then holding the phone up to your ear and yelling at somebody.

[B]

I barely drive.

[A]

Just missing an old lady in the street because you weren't paying attention. Yeah, this is what I'm seeing.

[B]

I don't even drive. There's nowhere to go. H E B is three minutes away. I'm not a driver. Anymore. I'm just an old coot doing a podcast. Thanks. You've got me. Finally.

[A]

You go to San Antone.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Big trip to San Antonio. Big smoke. Everybody going to San Antonio. Yeah, no, the. The two big trips I make are to the Hair, the Hair girl and to Rogan. That's about it.

[A]

When have you done Rogan last?

[B]

Yeah, it's been a while.

[A]

Hurting the show.

[B]

Oh, please go do Rogan. I've been on Rogan 6.

[A]

Hey, we got a donation today. I was just looking at the notes and somebody credited your visit to Megyn Kelly for the donation.

[B]

That happens. Yeah.

[A]

I think that's great.

[B]

She's also not burning down the phone here.

[A]

Well, she doesn't. You don't even like her.

[B]

I do. Like. I like her a lot, but, you know, I'm not in the circle. Remember when I was the last time I was on and she bumped me like five times for Glen Bay because. What happened? Something happened.

[A]

Yeah, you called her out for Putin hate. You look like a Putin apologist. You're in the list of Putin esques.

[B]

That's what it was. Yes, you're right. Yeah. Well, my mistake.

[A]

Yeah, you and Putin. You guys, you should get a room.

[B]

All right, all right. I know you got some clips, but I have to play this because there's a big change. Big change. Big thing happened for the first time since we've been doing this show, since the IPCC was the Paris Agreement. I should say it was. 2025 was no longer the hottest year on record. This is amazing.

[C]

Global temperatures in 2025 were slightly lower than 2024, but that still makes. Makes it the third hottest year.

[A]

Oh, brother. You came up with something.

[B]

The third. The third top ten.

[C]

A study by the Met Office and European climate scientists also found it was.

[B]

The third year in a row in.

[C]

Which temperatures reached more than 1.4 degrees Celsius above pre industrial levels. Dr. Samantha Burgess is the Deputy Director of the Copernicus Climate Change Service. She told me what this all means for the planet. Yeah. So the key findings from this year's report was that 2025 was the third warmest year on record after 24 and 2023. The global temperature anomaly was 1.47 degrees above the pre industrial average, which is an average of the global climate before significant human impact on the climate from burning fuels. And 2025 marks three years above 1.5 degrees. And this is important as we're now 10 years on from the Paris Agreement where almost every nation committed to lower global Warming Almost well below 2 degrees.

[B]

And ideally below 1.5 degrees. So.

[A]

Ideally.

[B]

So. So it's working. If you want to, you could also report. Wow, it's working. Everybody. Everyone's driving electric cars and it's fantastic. And, and we've.

[A]

We're not typical. This is classic what you just said.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You can report it any way you want. You can report it as a good thing or the reversal. And you could actually. I think that's the mistake. They just made it. They made a mistake. Mistake. They should say thanks to our efforts. Yes, electrolyzing. Electrolyzing. Electrifying electrification. This and that. This is working. And. And it looks like we. Maybe things may be going in the right direction. No, no, they don't do that. It's gloom and doom no matter what.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

It's bull crap. That's why.

[B]

Yeah. All right, what you got? And I'll let you go because I.

[A]

Got a bunch of stuff I, I wanted to get know. I think this. Deport the Sudan clips which I had from Al Jazeera.

[B]

This is not widely reported.

[A]

No, it's not. You know, Trump is decided. You know, the Trump administration has decided to ship people to Africa when they deport them.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And so now the big move is to ship them to South Sudan.

[B]

All right.

[A]

And so here's some background on it. This is, I guess, three clips. Four actually is interesting.

[B]

Well, you have two. Sudan number two. So it'll be interesting to see which one I'm supposed to play.

[A]

Are they same time?

[B]

No, one is two minutes and one is one minute and five. Okay.

[A]

One of them is obviously the third.

[B]

Yeah, obviously. Just which one is what? We don't know.

[A]

Well, we don't know.

[B]

Let's play the intro. We'll play the intro first and then we'll figure it out.

[A]

Clip 1.

[B]

And these are democratic values that you remember, Stephanie, that were hard fought for and blood was shed for us to gain independence and for us to gain this democracy that we are seeing fail at this moment. So we must stand up and say, no, we're not going to. What is happening here?

[A]

Okay, this is going on. Okay, he starts. I had this. I couldn't start. I couldn't play the whole bit. It was a half hour. So he's going on about Sudan being a democracy.

[B]

Who's going on about Sudan?

[A]

Some. One of the. One of the Al Jazeera Sudan experts.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

And so he's going on about how they can't put up with having a bunch of people shipped there from The United States, where they don't know anything about anything and they're not Sudanese. And so it just starts off as a rant and it resolves itself as the clips continue.

[B]

And these are democratic values that you remember, Stephanie, that were hard fought for.

[A]

And blood was shed for us to.

[B]

Gain independence and for us to gain this democracy that we are seeing at this moment. So we must stand up and say no, we're not going to allow our leaders to get into these agreements without consulting as the people, without consulting civil society. And worst of all, in Eswatini, without consulting parliament, who actually has the sovereign right according to the constitution to scrutinize whatever agreement our executive gets into.

[C]

Absolutely. Picking up on that point, there was a lot of articles I was reading really underlying the racist tone of this from the Trump administration. Now more and more African content creators are expressing frustrations over why their continent is being used for these deporting schemes, like this gentleman on TikTok.

[B]

So what, we're just dropping them off? We're just flying them over there and dropping them off are these.

[A]

Well, we, we're, we intend to, from what I can tell.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And so they basically were spoken. And the agreement, the way I understand it, is that we're not just dropping them off, we're putting them in prisons over there. And then the Sudanese will have to deal with him, whatever they want to do. They can take them in and they can kick him out or release them to Sudan. I mean this is, it's almost comical, but let's start with the two minute clip.

[B]

Well, the situation of these deals, around these deals adds further complexity to South Sudan already fragile environments in illustrating how external power may exploit vulnerability. And this is something that many people are expressing about. South Sudan is a country on its knees. It's a country that is facing multiple humanitarian crises.

[C]

So is this something that they're taking advantage of so they can dump these men, so to speak, in those terms? Because there's not much the government can do or they want the money.

[B]

I doubt if it is just the money because the countries are not wearing really uniform. There are countries where people actually could get some small money. But the people behind this decision in South Sudan are very wealthy and actually they got into a problem because of corruptions in the past and they had been sanctions by the US and they were hoping that if they could do a deal like this, those sanctions might be lifted or at least some. He's on those sanctions from the US So it's a bit different from a country to A country. But it's the fundamental similarity is really the vulnerability of the countries that are being targeted.

[C]

Yes. We heard that there have been countries who have rejected this and they're not sending them to Italy or to Malaysia. Melusi Trump is not the first US President to carry out deportations. We saw it under George W. Bush, we saw it under Barack Obama, but he's doing it in a very different way. Why is that?

[B]

I think, as I mentioned earlier, Stephanie, they are parading what it means to an American. And it goes back to this conversation around bolstering their exceptionalism because they can see that their power is waning around the world. Nobody is taking them as serious as.

[A]

Perhaps they would have post Cold War.

[B]

And I think they are now using these deportations as sort of a weapon to say it costs so much to an American and it's going to cost as much to get to do a trade deal with us. This is really risky to play all this Africa news this early in the show. They might hurt the show.

[A]

Well, it's so funny that the idea of this. I think everyone's missing the point about shipping these guys off to God knows where. Africa. You know, you got a deportee and he's like a bad guy. And so we're going to ship him, drop him off in Africa. This is not like sending him across the border, kicking him off the, you know, kicking him in the butt, the Mexican border, and said, get out of here. No, this, this. There's a couple of interesting historical aspects is Eisenhower deported a bunch of people and shipped them all to the Yucatan Peninsula, someplace where there's nothing to do.

[B]

What kind of people. Were they illegal?

[A]

There was Mexican, you know, Mexicans. But they were, they put him. Send them to a part of Mexico that they're not from. And it was like a pain in the ass when they got there and how to get out of here.

[C]

Here.

[A]

And so then the, then, if you recall, during the era of the show, the British wanted to send their guys off to Rwanda.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Which I thought was funny.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so we're going to ship you, you know, come in here illegally, you're going to Rwanda. And so which is kind of a. The whole idea is to discourage people from coming in.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

From coming in because you're going to end up in the middle of nowhere, Africa. And then now what are you going to do? How do you get out of there? So, you know, that's kind of the thing. Whether you get thrown in a jail or not, it doesn't matter. Just drop them off. So I find it to be kind of interesting. And they're not doing it, though. I mean, there's a. Except for the jail.

[B]

I hadn't even heard about it. I don't know why Sudan is all upset. I haven't heard the president out there saying, we're shipping you off to Sudan.

[A]

This has been going on, it's been negotiating. They're trying to do a deal with the South Sudanese government.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

Pay them money. We're going, you know, a couple hundred bucks per guy and we're going to drop these guys off. You can do what you're supposed to, put them in jail, but you could do what you want. Who gives credit?

[B]

So basically what we're hearing on Al Jazeera is a bunch of Sudanese democrats who hate Trump, basically.

[A]

That's what you're hearing. Yeah. But the fact that this kind of stuff is going on in the background to me seems at least amusing as hell.

[B]

We all got news that the United States deported some of of the violent criminals, as they call it, to some of our African countries. They deported some to Eswatini. They also deported some of them to South Sudan. Why is it that whenever they want to dump their stuffs or they want to dump anything, and now that it has to do with these violent criminals, the best place that they think they should deport these people to come on. Africa. Yeah.

[A]

Why is it do we do with our expired drugs, Like I said before, expired drugs go to Africa.

[B]

They will start coming for our videos, they will start flagging us and all of that. But why? Why is it that? Why not? They always think that all the bad things should always go to Africa when they want to carry out their test, when they need human beings to use like ghost guinea pigs to carry out their test trial processes, it's Africa.

[C]

Bill Gates reaction to that. Do you feel the same way?

[A]

Okay.

[B]

All right. So now finally we come to the end of the series.

[A]

Okay. And there's something in here. This is a WTF clip, which means there's something either particularly odd or particularly funny.

[C]

Daniel, I want to broaden this out at this point when we talk about immigration, migration, of course this is due to a lot of social and economic reasons, but, you know, many are also now talking about climate change, that there is going to be more and more migration from areas like Africa, for example, further north, because places are simply going to become uninhabitable.

[B]

Haven't you heard? Last year was number three on the list. It's going down. It's okay. All right, that was your Africa news. Please let me play your Iran killings clip. Unless you have a different Iran clip.

[A]

Do I have any Iran clips?

[B]

Yeah, Iran killings right here. Iran killings.

[A]

Okay, let's play Iran killings flight.

[C]

If momentary posture shift from the President's escalating threats against the Iranian regime over the past few weeks, that's as anti Iranian regime protests have grown, as has the regime's crackdown on protesters with horrifying footage of body bags at Tehran's morgues. Now showing us a glimpse of that, of that, that bloody crackdown as authorities have also blocked the Internet off there since Thursday. And President Trump has in recent weeks said that help is on the way. At one point saying that the US Is locked and loaded and ready to go, urging protesters to keep protesting. On Monday, the U.S. state Department urged Americans to leave Iran. But now President Trump saying he's been told on quote, good authority that the killing has stopped. Take a look.

[A]

We have been informed by very important sources on the other side and they've said the killing has stopped and the executions won't take place. There were supposed to be a lot of executions today and that the executions won't take place. And we're going to find out.

[C]

This comes a day after President Trump warned of very strong action in response to reports of the regime hanging those detained during the protests. He says he's watching Iran as the Pentagon today withdraws some troops from a key base in Qatar, echoing a move taken before US Strikes on Iran's new nuclear facilities back in June.

[B]

Now I question this, 12,000 killed. To me this feels like an EU move.

[A]

I question all of it. I mean we get the information is coming from very sketchy sources and the Internet guy, I mean there's troublemakers everywhere. I mean as possible as 20,000 dead because you have whole cities could be wiped out. But the one thing they, they were going to do and they, because they made, they said they were, and I, I think it may not happen now is that there's One kid, this 26 year old that they cited, this could be bullshit too, but they cited him as the first guy they're going to hang. They're going to hang him, but they're not just going to hang him. They were going to hang him from a crane. So it's like one of those five story cranes, you know, that goes way up to service buildings and whatever this big giant crane in the middle of Tehran. They were going to have him dangling from that. It was pretty gruesome the idea, but it was like, let's show a force, we'll show them. And that would have ended the regime.

[B]

Yeah. But to me, it feels like this is meant somehow to drag us in or distract attention. It seems like the President is kind of like, well, you know, they said the killings are stopped. And it doesn't really sound like we're going to do anything. He's talked, he talked a bit about it, but it just sounds like, no, stay away. He's got much bigger things he's doing. And to me, me, you know, the whole Shah of Iraq, it's all France. France has got to be involved in this if it's an op. And this was funny. Brett Baer on Fox. He had an interview with Iran's foreign minister and he's discussing it with what's his face, John Roberts. It was kind of interesting what the foreign Minister came up with. It's a classic. And essentially what he's saying is that this was a Mossad operation from Israel. There we go. That they werethey looked like Iranian agents designed to kill a large number of people and that that was designed to spark President Trump's action into Iran. And I said, Mr. Foreign Minister, if that's true, you don't have control of your country because there are agents all over the place killing people indiscriminately in the streets. And, you know, we went round and round. Also, he said it was designed to taunt President Trump, but if anybody is taunting President Trump, it is the Ayatollah himself, the Supreme Leader. Yeah, because he took to X to say some things about the President. And also there's this headline in the New York Post that the Iranian state TV posted an image of President Trump at the Butler rally as the Secret Service is whisking him off the stage and said with the caption, this time it will not miss its target. Which is more than a veiled threat of assassination against the president, which I'm sure will only serve to piss him off. I say put a bikini on him. If we're gonna do X Wars, we might as well. This is stupid. Something is very fishy about this. It doesn't smell right at all. I gotta those. So we. So the, the Crown Prince, quote unquote, who lives in, in the D.C. area, he wanted to go meet with Trump, as we heard from Roz the squirrel spook. And Trump said, nah. And he said, why don't you go meet with Witkoff and, and, and Rubio over there? Go, go meet at some other place. I'm not interested in talking to you. So one of our boots on the.

[A]

Ground.

[B]

Says we know the young shah well. This is the Crown Prince. In fact, I did some formation flying with him just three months ago. He was flying with a former US Air Force Thunderbird pilot. And let's see, he has no interest in becoming a monarch and only wants to help usher in a transition to a functional democracy.

[A]

That sounds like dubious.

[B]

It's all. The whole thing is dubious. And here's a report from France 24. The woman you'll hear speaking is a representative from Chatham House, which is basically the MI6 Council on Foreign Relations. The protests in Iran, which have been met by a bloody response, were sparked by economic distress, the collapse of Iran's currency and soaring prices due in part to international sanctions. As the opposition has grown to challenge the regime, experts say there are doubts about whether it has the structure and momentum to endure.

[C]

It's not as if the Iranian diaspora over 50 years has created a unified, integrated protest movement. It's very fractured. It's not united.

[B]

Some Iranians are putting their hope in the son of the last Shah of Iraq, deposed in 1979. Reza Pavlovi now lives in exile, exile in the US and speaking to Fox News, he said he could lead a transition to a democratic system. We have come to the point where people are just fed up with this regime. They are saying death to the dictator. They want to liberate themselves. And their demand for freedom is met with the most brutal reaction by a regime that is waging war on its own citizens, heir to a dictatorial regime and thought to be close to the Israeli government. It's unclear if Pavlovi has wide support among Iranians who opposed the Islamic Republic. The People's Mujahideen of Iran, based in France, sought to represent an alternative to the monarchists, but was seen as having lost credibility after siding with Saddam Hussein during the Iran Iraq war. And minorities in Iran, such as the Kurds, have political agendas of their own that go beyond regime change.

[C]

There are plenty of activism and ideas and agency that exists inside the country. Country. But many Iranian opposition figures and leaders are in Iran's jails.

[B]

In the past, the Islamic Republic has eventually crushed any attempt to organize resistance. And many are now wondering if this time will be different. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.

[A]

Well, he had a clip on the last show that they're releasing some of these prisoners, so there's that.

[B]

Yeah, I don't know. It just. It feels like it's just been started up as A as a thing. I mean, even when I talked to Lex, he's like, meh, you know, there's some protesting. It felt like a lot. And also a lot of the video you're seeing isn't even from Iran. It's Egypt. It's all other countries. You can't trust what you're seeing on social media.

[A]

No. You can't trust anything you see online.

[B]

You can't even trust us.

[A]

Well, you can trust us.

[B]

Oh, okay. Just checking.

[A]

What are you thinking?

[B]

Okay, let's talk about Greenland for a moment because, because this is. We've got to figure this out. And it seems like, well, here we go. Let's start with ABC tonight as President.

[C]

Trump escalates his push to take over Greenland. Top officials from Greenland and Denmark traveling to Washington to plead their case to the vice President and Secretary of State. But they emerged saying the two sides have a, quote, fundamental disagreement.

[B]

We didn't make manage to change the American position. It's clear that the president has this wish of conquering over Greenland. We made it very, very clear that this is not in the interest of the kingdom.

[C]

Trump says the US Needs Greenland for national security and has not ruled out using military force to get it.

[A]

I would like to make a deal, you know, the easy way, but if we don't do it the easy way, we're going to do it the hard way way.

[C]

Denmark, our NATO ally, says they're happy to work with the US to bolster security in the region.

[B]

But that doesn't mean that we want to be owned by United States.

[C]

A new poll shows 86% of voters, including 68% of Republicans, oppose using military force to seize Greenland. And as Trump ramps up his threats, Denmark now increasing their military presence in Greenland and asking other NATO allies to help. Sweden today also sending troops tonight, Republican Senator Mitch McConnell warning if the US takes on a NATO ally, it would be incinerating the hard won trust of loyal allies. But President Trump insists NATO would be stronger with Greenland, quote, in the hands of the United States. Adding anything less than that is unacceptable.

[A]

And we'll see how it all works out. I think something will work out.

[C]

And David, we have just learned that France, at the request of Denmark, is also sending military forces to Green. President Trump says this is all about national security. He says Russia and China are poised to take Greenland, but the officials visiting here today insist that's simply not true. They say they haven't seen a Chinese warship in Greenland in over a decade. But both sides tonight agreeing to keep talking.

[B]

So this is the big news in Europe, everybody's talking about all the troops going to Greenland, and they're doing NATO exercises.

[A]

NATO forces are on exercise in Greenland.

[B]

At a time when American designs on the island threaten the alliance's very existence.

[A]

NATO has not confirmed its approval of.

[B]

The drills, which reportedly involve troops from Sweden, Germany, France, the Netherlands, and Canada. Hosts Denmark framed it as part of a bolstering of Greenland's defenses. It is within the framework of NATO that we are conducting these activities, and it is Denmark as the host country that has taken these initiatives. Therefore, I cannot imagine, nor do I want to speculate, speculate, that a NATO country would attack.

[A]

France says it's acting in full solidarity with Denmark.

[B]

Prime Minister Sebastian Le Cornou warned that Washington must be taken at its word. It is clear that the intentions of the Trump administration are serious and that we must absolutely not underestimate the words of the American president. We can build on decades. NATO chief Mark Ruther will meet a.

[A]

Delegation from Denmark and Greenland on Monday in Brussels. It's unclear whether this particular exercise, Operation Arctic Endurance, is anything but routine.

[B]

There have been many similar drills in recent years. The latest in September was called Arctic Light. It involved more than 550 troops, including military observers from the United States. Observing from afar is the covetous eye of the man in the White House.

[A]

Who continues to say that the US Needs green.

[B]

Covetous, covetous eye.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

This also means, may be purely. I mean, it's obvious that the, the, the, the, the Greenland, Iceland, UK gap, the GIU gap, that, that's, you know, we have to be there. I mean, it's, these are all the shipping routes. There's a lot of shipping going on. And for them to say, oh, never seen any. Of course there's all kinds of Chinese shipping going on all the time. Chinese, Russian, etc. It's, it's like the Straits of Hormuz. You know, I think they were tying.

[A]

About Chinese flag, doing most of the Chinese stuff.

[B]

No one flagged. Sure. Okay. Rutte looks like a deer in the headlights. Come on in. Mark, what you got to say? All allies agree on the importance of the Arctic. Yes. Arctic security. Because we know that with sea lanes opening up, there is a risk that the Russians and the Chinese will be more active. And as you know, there are eight Arctic countries. Seven are within NATO. We have to work to make sure that the Arctic stays safe. And currently we are discussing the next step to that, how to make sure that we give practical follow up on those discussions to make sure that as an alliance. We do everything collectively and to our individual allies to make sure that the Arctic stays safe, as we all agree that that has to be a priority. Sounds to me like what's happening here is NATO troops are being. Of course, it's all our guilt here. NATO forces are being focused on Greenland and then we can just roll our ships in. We can say we're going to provide you guys cover over here. I don't think we actually need Greenland to just patrol the waters there. And there may be a North Sea nexus angle to this. We've been watching all these Victoria and we watch all these British royal monarch series. And so we started the crown and I was reminded, of course they all speak German. I was reminded that Queen Elizabeth ii, her husband Prince Philip was from Denmark. You know, these bloodlines, it's all connected. And so who knows what kind of real attack this is on Denmark. We can listen to a report here where the Foreign Minister of Denmark and the Foreign Minister of Greenland talked after their meeting with Rubio. And I think Witkoff was there as well. But first we have to make sure we know the German troops are also in Greenland.

[C]

Denmark's and Greenland's foreign ministers held inconclusive talks In Washington with U.S. vice President J.D.

[B]

Vance.

[A]

J.D.

[C]

And Secretary of State Marco Roux.

[B]

Well, you know, if they send in JD, it's not meant to do a deal. JD's just gonna dance around for you.

[C]

The Danish Foreign Minister, Lars Lek Rasmussen said the two sides had agreed to create a working group to discuss ways to address American security concerns while also respecting Denmark's red lines.

[B]

We had what I will describe as a frank but also constructive discussion. The discussions focus on how to ensure the long term security in Greenland and here. Our perspectives continue to differ. I must say the President has made his view clear and we, we have a different position and we therefore still have a fundamental disagreement. But we also agree to disagree and therefore we will, however, continue to talk.

[C]

Greenland's Foreign Minister Vivian Matzfeld doubled down and said her government simply cannot accept a US Takeover. I think it's very important to say.

[B]

It again that how important it is from our side to strengthen our cooperation.

[C]

With United States, but that, that doesn't mean that we want to be owned by United States, but as allies, how.

[B]

We can strengthen our cooperation, it's all our interest. Well, I think we just send our ships there and just start doing it.

[A]

I think you're, I think your earlier idea of a long lease.

[B]

Yeah, Trump's. Trump says he doesn't Want that. He doesn't want the long lease. That's. He's been very. Yeah, well, exactly, exactly.

[A]

So I only have one clip on this and it's from ntd, which would have the anti Chinese perspective.

[C]

Meanwhile, President Trump calling anything less than Greenland in the hands of the U.S. unacceptable, citing national security.

[A]

And the problem is there's not a thing that Denmark can do about it if Russia or China wants to occupy Greenland. But there's everything we can do. You know, I can't rely on Denmark being able to fend themselves. They put an extra dog sled there last month. They added a second dog sled. That's not going to do the trick.

[C]

This comes as Vice President J.D. vance and Secretary of State Marco Rubio meet with the foreign ministers of Denmark.

[B]

And Greenland and we therefore still have a fundamental disagreement. But we also agree to disagree and therefore we will have, however, continue to talk. It is not a true narrative that we have, you know, Chinese warships all around the place. According to our intelligence, we haven't had a Chinese warship in Greenland for a decade or so.

[C]

While top Danish officials say there are no Chinese ships near Greenland, major Chinese Communist Party media outlets echo these denials, alleging the US Is acting out of self interest rather than national security. President Trump draws attention to a Danish intelligence report released last month that starkly warns about China's military goals in the Arctic.

[A]

If you take a look outside of Greenland right now, there are Russian destroyers, there are Chinese destroyers, and bigger.

[B]

Hmm. To me, yeah, seems like a gambit.

[A]

There's something up, but it may not.

[B]

Actually have to do with owning Greenland. Maybe we just need a pretext for going up there.

[A]

But we already have bases.

[B]

It's not a huge base. It's a base.

[A]

Yeah. How much do you need?

[B]

Well, you need the chiefs.

[A]

I think maybe the gambit is just to show, get these guys to put all these troops in Greenland to freeze their asses off. That cannot be a pleasant assignment.

[B]

Now.

[A]

And there's also the thought, which I don't have in any of the clips, but it's just been floating around about them offering $100,000 per Greenlander to vote.

[B]

Seems low. Seems like a low.

[A]

Well, if you imagine you live in Greenland. Yeah, it's probably not low.

[B]

What are you gonna. What are you gonna spend it on?

[A]

Well, that's the point. So it's a lot of money. You're gonna.

[B]

Yeah. Which immediately gives. It makes inflation even.57,000 people. Inflation happens, you know, you give everybody a hundred grand, hey, you want a dog sled ride 100 bucks.

[A]

Should be a hundred bucks. Never ridden a dog sled?

[B]

No, don't plan on it either.

[A]

They go like I have. I've ridden a dog sledding sled and the dogs go a lot faster than you think.

[B]

I do have two clips from Anderson Pooper with Nick Robertson. I think Nick is a, isn't he the an MI6 kind of spy dude. Remember him?

[A]

I don't know that guy.

[B]

Yeah, I think you do. He used to do the satellites in Iraq and then all of a sudden he was on camera. I think that think that was Nick Robertson. No. Well, this is a report from the Nexus, I think.

[A]

Let's see, Robertson joins us tonight from gre.

[B]

Is there a sense well he's in Greenland.

[A]

What happens next there? Because again the White House doing they're interested in what are you doing a remote from Greenland.

[B]

Why he's protecting the interests of the empire, obviously. I think people here are still perplexed. They still remember now this guy was always in Iraq and he used to.

[A]

This guy's a spook.

[B]

Yes, he's a spook. I think people here are still perplexed. They still don't quite understand what the diplomacy means. I was just talking to a of couple, couple of high school graduates here and they, they wanted to know what had happened in the meeting in D.C. and what it really meant. And they are both and their parents they tell us are still really worried about whether or not the United States might come here in a military form to to annex the country. Right now I can just tell you Anderson that we've just learned through a flight tracking site something that we were hearing about earlier today a Day Danish C130 Military transport Hercules aircraft has landed at Nook Airport. The Danish had said that they were going to land, they were going to bring in more military into into Greenland. It would be troops, it would be aircraft, it would be navy. We've heard that the Swedish, the Norwegians, the Germans, the French are all coming here to sort of step up a NATO military security presence, not per se to defend against the United States, but it will begin to establish an image for President Trump of what NATO can do to project the level of security that he is saying that he requires. But I think in no uncertain terms the reason that people like these young girls we're speaking to before are concerned is because that meeting in Washington has left everyone with the understanding that both sides are still poles apart. High level discussions to come, but it really buys a little time for Denmark to prepare time to hope that the White House reconsiders. But the reality is the can's been kicked down the road and it is big. It is as big a can as it was before. Anderson, I think technically nature, nothing. No, of course not. Well, he has a little more here, but I think technically NATO, NATO forces can take military control of another NATO country. But.

[A]

You know, there's one thing that the YouTubers have. There's a bunch of different interviewers that are out there floating around Greenland and seems to me that the people that live there would rather have the United States run it then Denmark. They literally say, yeah, yeah, we, you.

[B]

Know, they're all, yeah, but that's not the man on the street you see on, on France 24, the BBC or anything here. You see them all saying, no, no, no, no.

[A]

They're all saying, they're all saying, at least on these, these men on the street. Reports from the YouTubers that they're really more men on the street and they're, they're young Eskimo looking people generally. They say, yeah, we'd rather have. And they all speak or they don't all, but a lot of them speak English and pretty good English. They say, we'd rather. We don't like the Danes. We just don't like them.

[B]

Well, why would you. They got smelly cheese. Brown cheese. Brown cheese.

[A]

There it is.

[B]

Here's the follow up. And this of course is about NATO.

[A]

Congressman, where do you see this going? I mean, given the fact the president isn't budging neither officials from Denmark, Greenland.

[B]

Wait. Oh, he now is with Jake Ochin Kloss, who is that guy? Anderson. Good evening. Before looking forward, let's wind the clock back to 2019. The Danish intelligence services uncovered a Russian false flag operation in Greenland that was attempting to sow discord between Greenland, the United States and Denmark by claiming that the United States was trying to secure Greenland its independence and its annexation that failed. It turns out that the Kremlin need not have worried because the US President is now doing its bidding for it. The US President is doing exactly what.

[A]

Oh, hold on. Stop. The U.S. president is doing the bidding of Russia. I never heard that before.

[B]

There it is. That's exactly what it is. Let's listen to that bit again before looking forward. He's down. Democrat representative, former bank military guy. Let's wind the clock back to 2019. The Danish intelligence services uncovered a Russian false flag operation in Greenland that was attempting to sow discord between Greenland, the United States and Denmark by claiming that the United States was trying to secure Greenland. I don't remember that. Do you remember said false flag. We are the false flag show. I don't remember.

[A]

It's bullcrap.

[B]

That's why its independence and its annexation, that failed. But it turns out that the Kremlin need not have worried because the US President is now doing its bidding for it. The US President is doing exactly what Russian intelligence services hope to accomplish in 2019, which is two things.

[A]

Wait, stop, stop, stop, stop. So let's go. Let's take one stop here and listen to the. What is the logic of the this. The logic is that the United States is, you know, they created a false flag to make it look the United States are bad.

[B]

No, no, no, no.

[A]

The Russian doing the bidding of Russia by taking over Greenland because we want to stop Russia.

[B]

No, no, no. He said that the Russians created a false flag. Right?

[A]

Yeah. So, yeah, I got that. But then he says, now he says the president, they don't have to do the false flag because the president is doing the bidding of Russia by trying to take over Greenland, Finland. How does that benefit Russia?

[B]

Well, I actually thought differently when I heard this and I thought, oh, this is Ark, America, Russia, China. Yeah, exactly. We, we want to work with them. We are doing their bidding because we have a plan. Somebody has a plan. I hope somebody has a plan.

[A]

The Kremlin have a plan or not? His logic is no good.

[B]

His logic is no good.

[A]

The logic is this is ridiculous. In fact.

[B]

Well, but it's talking points worried because the US President is now doing its bidding for it. The US President is doing exactly what Russian intelligence services hope to accomplish in 2019, which is two things. First, fracturing NATO at a time when NATO needs to be strong on its eastern flank, it is being weakened on its western flank. And number two, driving the Greenlandic people closer actually to Chinese and Russian influence for their own polar security.

[A]

Why do you think. Yes, so the Greenlanders, according to this joke, are thinking, well, gee, we don't like the Danes, we don't like the Americans. Let's turn to Russia and China who've had no contact with whatsoever. They're not even in the picture. It's not even a part of the debate. But that's what they're. Oh, come on, dude, get this guy off the air. What is it? What network was this?

[B]

This is CNN with Anderson Pooper. Well, let's continue because he comes to a logical conclusion. Why do you think.

[A]

That would weaken NATO? Why would the U.S. you know, occupying. I mean, I don't even know how to, to phrase how the, but the U.S. a greater U.S. presence or control over Greenland. How would that fracture or increasingly fracture Naito?

[B]

Well, I mean, Anderson, you may not have the right verbiage, but Article 5 does, which is an attack on a NATO member. The United States forcefully occupying Greenland, which is a part of the kingdom of Denmark. Denmark being a founding member of NATO would be an attack on NATO by a member of NATO. Yeah. There is no treaty provision that can withstand that. NATO would fracture and Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin would win.

[A]

Win what?

[B]

I don't know. I think, I think Trump is just trolling Naito. He really want, he really wants the ships there. And that makes a lot of sense. Sense. We've got to have control of that because that's the Donro doctrine.

[A]

Yeah, it is in our hemisphere.

[B]

Yes. And it's, it's pretty important with all this, you know, melting ice and everything.

[A]

Oh, yes. You know, this is the kind of the, another ill logic is that they, you know, they, they, they have to say there's, the ice is going to melt completely, which is going to put that night if it does, it's going or if it melts enough, there's going to be a shipping lane there that's going to be much more efficient than going over the Pacific, for example. You just sneak across the top, shorten the routes. So that's why airlines fly over the polar route, largely because it's faster. And so it would be a big deal, save everybody money. But these guys are seeing it differently.

[B]

I don't know. It has yet to be reviewed and.

[A]

There'S probably oil up there.

[B]

I think that's much less important. I really, that's, you know, I've heard oil, I've heard minerals, gold, diamonds. No, I think, I think it's just about the shipping routes. That's it. All those ghost ships are going through there, which would be about oil ultimately. All right, so the next attack on, on I'll just say the nexus is Jerome Powell. And this is really, I think this is fun to watch. Here's a brief statement. The president's general feeling about Jerome Powell, the head of the Federal Reserve.

[A]

As you know, the inflation numbers just came out and we have very low inflation. So that would give too late Powell the chance to give us a nice beautiful big rate cut, which would be great for the country. But rates are falling also and growth is going up. We have tremendous growth numbers. So growth is going up. And I can only say that the country is doing well. He's billions of dollars over budget. So he either is incompetent or he's crooked. I don't know what he is, but he does certainly he doesn't do a very good job.

[B]

Now, did you see the, was it the, like the hostage video that Powell did?

[A]

Yeah, I thought it was kind of dull. I didn't think much of it. What was the point?

[B]

Well, the point is is he's making it sound like this is political, but it was actually I think it was a Democrat who referred Powell's testimony before the Senate Banking Committee to the Department of Justice saying that he perjured himself during that testimony. It has nothing to do with the rates and Trump just keeps saying that, but it seems like it's about something else.

[A]

He's about building, spending too much money.

[B]

No, no, he purged. We don't know because the grand jury, you know, it's not public, but I.

[A]

Don'T know how he could perjure himself. Most of the time he's asked for opinions.

[B]

Well, you know the, I don't think the testimony was public either, was it? I don't think so. I looked for it, I couldn't find it. So. But what this has done is it has put the Federal Reserve and I'm always amazed how many people don't know that. The Federal Reserve is not a government organization. It's a so called independent institution created in 1913 by the banking cartel.

[A]

Yeah. And what was the reason for us being created? Created.

[B]

What was the reason for it being created?

[A]

They were sick and tired of the business cycle getting out of control. Every 10 years you'd have a depression, half the banks would go out of business and people would lose all their money. This kept going on and on and on and they had to do something about it. So they decided that, you know, since we can't have a central bank, quote unquote, we had to have some sort of a faux central bank. And they decided that if they got Control's hasn't worked. Worked. No, but they decided that, well, maybe this will be one way of stopping that business cycle from breaking us. Every, you know, the, was the, it was the crash in 1907 that really triggered it. But this, that was the end of the end. That was the worse than anything we've seen. For a short term it just broke everybody's back.

[B]

So you're telling me that the Federal Reserve of which we don't even know who all the members are.

[A]

Yes, we do.

[B]

No, no we don't. We don't know all the.

[A]

We Know who all the members are? The members are all public.

[B]

No, we know the board. We know who the board of Governors is.

[A]

We know who all the members are.

[B]

Who are they?

[A]

Well, I don't have their names off the top of my head, but they're not. It's not secret like you seem to believe.

[B]

I'm pretty sure that it is.

[A]

No, no, no.

[B]

Well, I'm pretty sure that it is.

[A]

No, I'm pretty sure we know who all the members are. There's not a secret guy in the background that's doing anything. This is all. You know. It's public. The members are all known. In fact, I did a search on this. Are all the members of the Federal Reserve known? Yes.

[B]

Well, who are they, then?

[A]

The identities of the Federal Reserve's key decision makers are public, not secret. The board of governors.

[B]

Not the decision makers. All the members.

[A]

The board of governors are the decision makers. They're all known. There was no secret people back there. I don't know where you got that. That.

[B]

Are all the member banks known? Yeah, yeah, that's what I.

[A]

What, you think there's a secret bank?

[B]

Well, I think the Federal Reserve in general is a bad idea if they.

[A]

Well, that's different than thinking that secret.

[B]

Well, I'll leave that. You don't have any proof. I don't have any proof?

[A]

No, there's plenty. You can.

[B]

There's Google.

[A]

Secret person or bank? There's no secret bank in the Federal Reserve.

[B]

Okay. Not all banks in the United States are member banks, but not all bank members are known. But that's Google.

[A]

Not all bank members are known.

[B]

No.

[A]

Where'd you get that from Google.

[B]

So take that for what it is.

[A]

Really.

[B]

Yeah. Well, but let's not argue over that. Let's argue.

[A]

There's something to argue about if you think it's a secret society or something running the Federal Reserve.

[B]

Well, the way I understand the history. History as the Federal Reserve originally were the same banks, same people who started the. Was it the American Bank? The Second bank of America? Second bank of. And the first bank of America. And Andrew Jackson dissolved that because he. Yeah.

[A]

You talked about this on Jimmy's show. You're repurposing information. Just calling you. Just. Just saying.

[B]

Yeah, but I actually got some clips. Lips, so I'm not. You know what, John? It's fine. You know everything.

[A]

I'm just saying, you're thinking there's some secret organization running the Federal Reserve and there's not.

[B]

It's okay.

[A]

This is, you know, Rand Paul, if you remember, during the era of our show, Rand Paul made a big fuss about end the Fed, which is, you know, okay, you can try doing that. And then he got ahead of the Banking Committee. He couldn't do jack because he was going to always gonna. He's gonna audit the Fed. Never. Nothing came up because there was nothing, nothing onerous going on.

[B]

No, Rand Paul was running on his dad's mission to end the Fed and.

[A]

I mean Ron Paul.

[B]

What I want to get to here without. Without going into some endless conversation about who owns because I think that. And I will on Sunday show I will find out some information. I will tell you that not everything about the Federal Reserve Reserve Network is known. I believe that to be true.

[A]

Yeah, you do believe that to be true.

[B]

I do. And you believe it not to be true. But that's beyond the point. They certainly didn't stop the boom and bust cycle that the businesses had gotten us into.

[A]

I said that right at the beginning of my presentation right here.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Yeah. No, they tr. But we don't know that it could have been gotten worse. I mean after 1907.

[B]

Has it gotten any better? Has it gotten any better?

[A]

Well, the problem they had with the money creation.

[B]

They do it has not.

[A]

They make too many assumptions. They think they. They could. They're in. They're inept, I'll give you that.

[B]

And should commercial banks be in charge of our monetary policy by your reasoning?

[A]

Well, who should be in charge of monetary policy? Before the Fed, every bank had their own notes.

[B]

That's right. And I believe that what is happening here is that Scott Besant will follow in the. Gosh, I forget who it was. They had like three different secretaries of the treasury under Andrew Jackson. Jackson. And the third one who finally, who ultimately became a Supreme Court judge, he drained the Federal Reserve of all of the.

[A]

Well, there was no Federal Reserve.

[B]

I mean the Second bank of the Second bank of America drained their accounts and then gave it to what was called Andrew Jackson's pet banks which dissolved effectively the Second bank of America. Now he screwed it up because eventually it created enormous hyperinflation. But I think that you're going to see a move by Besant in particular who is going to redistribute. They are. He, he can already. He's already going to do the short term T bills. And I think that's. This is the point I'm getting to. I think that's where the stablecoin gambit comes into play. I'm just saying that this, I think there is a scheme afoot and Every single central banker. I've never seen this before. Trump has always, always, for as long as he's been in office, has complained about the Federal Reserve. But it's the first time that we see all the central bank guys coming out all around the world and saying, oh no, no, this is no good. We have to have independent banks. I think they're worried. I think they're scared something is going on.

[A]

Of course they're worried, but they've never.

[B]

All come out en masse and signed letters.

[A]

You have some maniac coming out there and really pretty much threatening the entire monetary system of the world with stablecoin. And I can see that being a huge problem.

[B]

I can see, I mean, I'd be.

[A]

Worried too if I was a banker.

[B]

I can see it as being a great idea.

[A]

Well, listen, they don't see it that way and so they're worried. So I don't. I'm not stunned by this.

[B]

My point is they've never, this is, it's not being discussed. All that's being discussed is he's going after Powell for political reasons. Reasons. And I think that what I'm trying to say, which you're just, for some reason, you just keep fighting me on it.

[A]

No, I'm not fighting you on it at all. I just think some of the things you're saying are bull crap like that. They're secret banks.

[B]

That's one. Are you going to argue any other.

[A]

Or the stablecoin gambit. I understand it where I could replace Swift, but whether or not it's going to replace the banking system is another issue. I don't think so.

[B]

What is the banking system? What do these central banks is the, what is their one besides the making money, printing money. They, they settle. They do the settlement. If you can do that through a blockchain, you can. If you can get more than more flowing through your blockchain than the. What they do, I think you can effectively neutralize them. And let me tell you, Shopify is already adding a stable coin to their checkout options. Our own donation page has a stablecoin checkout page. Page. Why? I didn't ask.

[A]

I don't even know how to get a hold of a stablecoin.

[B]

No, not yet, but it's being set up. Why else would, why else is this happening? Why would Shopify, who arguably are one of the most successful financial companies in the world, who are out outpacing Visa? Why would Shop. Why would Shopify add stablecoin to their checkout?

[A]

Shopify is outpacing V. Visa in stock price.

[B]

Yeah. And in success. Oh yeah. And stablecoin will have no fees associated.

[A]

And well, there's your dare. You just answered your own question. But it's all about the fees.

[B]

But yes. And the same thing is that I think it's all connected is what I'm trying, I'm trying to explore this world with you instead of.

[A]

Yeah, well, keep exploring. So I'm going to keep pushing back unless you don't want any pushback and you just want to me to roll over to these thoughts.

[B]

Well, you're, you're okay. So you think everything's just going to continue as normal and nothing will happen?

[A]

Pretty much.

[B]

Okay. I believe that the 10% cap on credit card interest rates is related to this. I think it's not just to make it more affordable. I think he's trying to put the credit card companies on notice if not severely hurt their business.

[A]

Well, let's hope so.

[B]

All right, so we'll leave stablecoin for what it is and we'll leave the central bankers for what it is. But I'm going to put it in the red book that this is an attack on the entire financial system. And yes, I think they're serious about doing, doing it. I really do. And I think it's about time. Every year there's a bill to end the Federal Reserve. Last year, every year it was Massey funny enough and he has 10 co sponsors.

[A]

Massey.

[B]

It was Massey.

[A]

That tells you something right there.

[B]

That's why I found it interesting. Interesting. So the credit card cap came up on CNBC and here's the Sorkin kid trying to explain the business of credit cards which was a little more intricate than I thought.

[A]

I was on the phone with a bunch of bankers over the weekend who.

[B]

Were basically not just mad, just flipping.

[A]

Flipping out of their minds, frankly. And they were flipping out of their minds, I believe and they are argument they were making is if you don't want credit in America, if you want us to shut down, you know, millions of people's credit cards because that's what we will have to do to make the economics of these businesses work, that would be the outcome.

[C]

But I don't know if that's really.

[A]

Actually I don't know if that's a, a threat. I can't tell you about the actual math. I do think that what's happened to the business from what I've told is because there are so many services that are now been layered on top of credit cards that the only way for them to obviously make money really is.

[B]

To actually charge what might be described.

[A]

As usury rates or not whatever you.

[C]

What kind of services.

[A]

I mean, there's all of the, I mean, some, some cards have loyalty points, some cards don't. Some cards have insurance on the product, some cards don't. But there's all sorts of things now that are embedded in your credit card that go far beyond strictly just buying and selling, selling products, you know, whether it's insurance on when you go to, to rent a car or this or that.

[B]

Now, some of these cards, as I.

[A]

Said, their fees, you know, American Express charges you fees. There's other cards that give you the card for free. But those cards that are giving you for free, the way they're making up their money is typically on the other end, meaning they want you to charge everything on it. They want you not just to charge everything on it because they're getting the 3% for each sale. They're really want you to actually not pay so that you pay the interest rate. That's the business.

[B]

So Sorkin, they're defending the business, saying that, well, because they give you insurance and all this other stuff. I don't know, that seems like give you a crap. Exactly. And then Kernan says, well, he basically said, well, what about the free market? How does that not work? Once again, in a, in a world where you don't like to use the.

[A]

Word cap ever on something that you're doing because you immediately think there's going to be less of it when you cap it. And it's supposed to work where if someone's charging too high and it's right, then competitors come in and go to, you know, go down an eighth at a time till you get to an equilibrium where demand equals supply. So I don't understand. But once again, is Elizabeth, Elizabeth Warren go and go President Trump again, Is that, are they on the same side of.

[B]

Probably. So two things here, one that's a good question is they must be colluding, I guess, because everyone has high interest rates. Do you know of any low interest rates? Credit card Interest rate.

[A]

Credit cards.

[B]

No.

[A]

They all brag about they maybe have your low interest rate. I'm going to correct you on something, by the way. No, you're right. There's no. They're all high interest rates. Visa is over three times bigger than Shopify.

[B]

Has their stock price risen the same.

[A]

Their net worth did? The stock price is way up there, but the market cap of visa is 632 billion and Shopify is 200 billion.

[B]

I didn't say. I didn't say their market cap. I said that their stock price.

[A]

Stock price is all relative. Well, okay, well, the stock price of visa is 327.

[B]

Yeah, but look at. Look at the charts. I believe Shopify has exploded since they came on the scene.

[A]

Well, it's not that it's a crappy company.

[B]

No, but.

[A]

But you said they were bigger. Shopify is 157. It's not even close. It's half the stock price.

[B]

And I qualified it by saying the stock price.

[A]

Well, Shopify is 157. It's half the price of Visa stock.

[B]

All right, I'm just.

[A]

Because you throw this stuff out out of the blue and it. And it just goes out into the ether and people hear, oh, geez, Shopify is bigger than Visa when it's not even a snowball's chance in hell it'll ever be bigger than Visa. It's a huge company. Visa.

[B]

Yes. And if you put the two charts next to each other. Has Shopify increased in value? I guess that's recently.

[A]

It's fallen off a rock. Off a cliff.

[B]

Okay, well, then I was wrong. I believe Shopify is a very successful company. Not saying Visa.

[A]

I'm not saying it's not. You didn't say that.

[B]

I know. I'm. I'm. I'm conceding to you.

[A]

No. Well, with provisos, actually, Shopify once at one point really hit some good numbers. I know, I know.

[B]

Because the reason why I said that. I didn't say it correctly for sure, is because the former New York banker. Go ahead. You can discredit him about Goldman Sachs. Sachs.

[A]

The former skyrocketing.

[B]

The former New York banker has been investing in Shopify for eight years. I think he says it is. It is a much better company and deal than Visa if you want to make money. So he was just talking about stock price increase, I believe. But we can't believe anybody. Certainly not him, because.

[A]

No, we can believe that. It's. And it is true. It's a newer company company. They're doing quite well. But they're not bigger than Visa. That's all. I was. You were saying that they were.

[B]

And I already told you, I said I. I was incorrect in saying that. Yes. Just make.

[A]

We gotta keep the show honest.

[B]

Okay. Well, it always is difficult for me when the first thing you say is you're recycling content. I'm trying not to recycle content. I'm really trying not to. But I think it's important. Important. And when you do that. It's just like you. Is what you're saying that's kind of.

[A]

No, I'm saying you're recycling.

[B]

You know, it's like not everybody.

[A]

If people are your fans, there's plenty of them out there. They're going to listen to all your stuff and they're going to keep doing the same thing over and over. You can. There's original material.

[B]

You know, I just. I'm baffled by you. I'm baffled. You, you write the sub stacks that are the same material. Who care? What do you care what my fans listen to? What do you care? Isn't it about this show? Is it about bringing the best to this show?

[A]

Yes. Okay, so what do you care if you're taking retreaded material from other shows at this second, you're giving our show second tier status. You got your first tier status, which is you and Jimmy, and then you bring it your same stuff over to our show as those second rate.

[B]

Okay, the show.

[A]

It's an interesting insult.

[B]

It's. Oh, you feel it's an insult? Oh, okay.

[A]

The audience.

[B]

No. How many people listen to Noah, Jen, and how many people listen to. We get to do this. What's the difference in audience size, do you think? Just take a wild guess. It's not an insult to anybody. No, no one has complained. Except you.

[A]

Well, I'm trying to get you an audience over there if you haven't figured this out.

[B]

Well, you're doing a great job. Job. You haven't mentioned the name of the show once.

[A]

I can never. Believe me, I, I would love to mention the name of the show. I can't remember the name of the show.

[B]

You ready? We get to do this.

[A]

We get to do this. You actually. And not only that, you've had somebody write a song.

[B]

Jeff Smith.

[A]

Oh, Jeff Smith wrote the song.

[B]

Yeah, of course. That's where I, you know, I'm sorry if, if I weakened our show by using Jeff Smith somewhere else.

[A]

He doesn't do anything for us anymore. It might as well.

[B]

Anyway, final clip here. So Kernan says, what's happening here? Is President Trump going to call Elizabeth Warren? And he actually did. He called her, which is amazing by itself. And she was asked about it on cnbc. And what do you think she answered? Answered?

[A]

She was very. I think she was positive, if I'm not mistaken.

[B]

That's not what I heard.

[C]

I had just given a speech about the future of the Democratic Party. And the basic point that I made in the speech is that Donald Trump had promised for an entire year in the run up to the 2024 election that on day one he would lower costs for American families. He gets elected and the very first interview he said on day one one.

[B]

She didn't answer the question at all or even during the full 11 minute interview. All she said was there's cheaper credit cards out there. She's part of the system. She doesn't want credit card companies to get screwed by Trump.

[A]

I heard a different clip from her, I don't have it, where she was somewhat complimentary for the fact that they agreed on this and now she turned. Somebody gave her a call. But who?

[B]

Well, listen to the rest of the clip.

[C]

For cause for American families and that that's why he got elected. And yet here we are a year in and the cost of groceries is up, the cost of utilities is up, the cost of housing is up, the cost of health care is up, up, up. And all of those costs are up because of policies that Donald Trump and the Republicans, Republicans in Congress have pushed on our economy. So the argument I was making in the speech is it's time for Democrats to jump in to hold Donald Trump and the Republicans accountable for these higher costs for American families and then make a choice as we go forward. We can take our economic agenda and sand it down, narrow it down to make it more acceptable to billionaire don't. Or we can actually go full throated on behalf of the American people and make bold proposals and demonstrate that we will get in there and fight like what? But this was all about lowering costs for American families because that's what Democrats are going to do and that's what the election of 2026 is going to be about.

[A]

That's all she could do.

[B]

That's all she could do is talk about, about the 2026 election. She doesn't care about people, doesn't want to help them, doesn't want it.

[A]

No. Somebody called her up and said, hey, hey, hey, you can't be talking anything good about Trump. We got to win. This 2026 thing, this is the, this is, the whole thing is about 2026. Edit clipped it somewhere about 2026. I thought.

[B]

I don't have let's do more Africa news.

[A]

I wish I had more African news.

[B]

Let's do something. I don't want to do too much on Minnesota because that's the biggest.

[A]

Oh, here it is. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Miami in the midterms. This is from Al Jazeera. And this is, you know, unbeknownst to everybody, you know, Chuck Schumer's been working behind the scenes. They've been. The Democrats have been winning all these little local elections. The Republicans are lazy. The Republicans are lazy.

[B]

And, and no, no, no. The Republicans don't want Trump to win. I think most of them.

[A]

Well, you're talking about the professional Republicans. I'm talking about the public at large.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

The professional Republicans don't like Trump. They don't want to do anything. James Comer's the worst. He's never going to indict anybody. Clinton and give him the finger. I'm not coming in for the talk. I. And, well, you've been subpoenaed, you know, now you're breaking the law. Ah, screw you. Oh, okay, whatever. I mean, the guy is a horrible person. And so you have. Meanwhile, the Democrats are making inroads left and right. And now this.

[B]

Now the US Midterm elections aren't happening until November. But the political posturing is already well underway. Democrats hope a strong showing will help to limit the President's power. They recently received a boost in Donald Trump's home state of Florida. From Miami is Phil Lavelle. This is Miami, Florida. It is colorful, it is cultural, it's competitive. And politically, is this place seeing the start of a big shift? Democrats hope so. Eileen Higgins is Miami's new mayor, a Democrat herself, which is significant because Miami has not elected a Democrat to run it for 30 years. Quick bit of background for you then. Florida is as red as it gets. Dominated by the Republicans. Democrats have been trying to shake it up for years and turn it blue, or at least make it purple. A blend of the two. This was once the ultimate swing state. The 2000 presidential election hinged on Florida. Al Gore just lost out to George W. Bush after a Supreme Court battle. But it has moved steadily to the right ever since. Looser Covid restrictions drew in older, more conservatives, conservative leaning voters, joining an already huge and broadly conservative Latino base. It helped Governor Ron DeSantis with a record breaking landslide in the 2022 midterms. But here's why Democrats are feeling a bit more hopeful right now. They've notched up a handful of wins elsewhere lately. Small but symbolically important for a party still regrouping after losing the White House in 2024. How do you capitalize on that? How do you keep that guarantee?

[C]

We keep it going by being on the ground. That's what we need to do. We need to continue voter registration, especially here in Florida. We need to have voter registration. We need to up our numbers, we need to reach out to our Democrats, Independents and Republicans because there are Republicans that have buyer's remorse, I think, about.

[B]

Where we are right now at this particular moment in time. See, President Trump is only a year in a quarter of the way through his second term. The midterm elections take place in November. November. And Republicans need to do well there to fulfill his election agenda. If Democrats want to slow him down, this is their chance. All right, what's my takeaway from that?

[A]

Three years there hasn't been a Democrat mayor of Miami and now there's one these guys are making. These Democrats are doing a lot better than anybody wants to admit to. The Republicans are flat footed, they're complacent. I listen to these, I watch all the right shows and let's, they're, they, they spiking the ball left and right as though they, they won the, the midterms that they think they're going to win the midterms. They don't put any fear of God into the voters saying hey, we're going to lose the midterms, which is what's going to happen. And then Trump's going to get impeached again and probably again. He's going to get impeached four times probably. And, and they, they're just not, it's unbelievable. These Republicans are lazy.

[B]

Well, they don't have the spark right now. They don't have the MAGA spark, which is thanks to the, partially thanks to the podcast wars, Nick Fuentes, other agents of change and destabilization. Then Trump is busy doing stuff. He doesn't care. I think even if he gets impeached, he's still going to keep moving.

[A]

They can't stop changed anything. But he's not going to get anywhere with the Congress that's deadlocked.

[B]

He doesn't need Congress. He just kill everything that he wants to.

[A]

He's not going to get everything he wants to. He would be better off with a Congress that was amenable to passing laws that were in his favor as opposed to a bunch of asshole Democrats who are going to be lording it over everybody.

[B]

And Republicans, they're just as bad. The Republicans, I'm telling you, they do not want Trump to win. Win. They're sick of it. They want stability. They want to go back to their home. They want to hang out. People need to. Yeah, you're right. Republicans, if you're talking about the public at large, the organization, the fire I think is gone, feels lost.

[A]

It reminds me of California. We have a Republican, national Republican, California Republican Committee whatever it's called. And they don't do anything. They didn't put any money behind Garvey when he ran for Senate. They let this guy, you know, that screwball, what's his name, Schiff, become senator of California. That's a humiliation. And now they're going to have governorship running. They got. Who are they going to run? And they're running Steve Hilton. And that's the Republican guy. I mean, this is ridiculous. They're going to have to be some fat. Katie Porter will be the guy. Governor or stier. Tom Steyer, he's got a shot at it. We have to listen to this guy.

[B]

And you still won't leave?

[A]

No, I can't complain enough.

[B]

All right. Couple we're, we're late now. Couple clips on oh, no. Yeah, we are. We're late. Couple clips on My fault, Minnesota. The first one. Where did this come from? This was. Where is it now? Oh, yes. CBS A week after the killing of.

[A]

Renee Good in Minneapolis, the fallout continues.

[B]

A vigil this morning followed fierce overnight clashes as mass immigration agents by the thousands continue to work in the city.

[A]

And after this incident caught on tape showing a woman pulled and dragged by agents.

[B]

Meanwhile, a half dozen federal prosecutors in Minnesota, including the man Trump named acting U.S. attorney last summer, Joe Thompson, have quit in protest. According to sources speaking with CBS News.

[A]

Some over the Trump administration's decision not.

[B]

To investigate the federal agent who shot Renee Good and to instead investigate Goode herself and Goode's widow.

[A]

The woman and her friend were highly disrespectful of law enforcement.

[B]

CBS News has also learned six others in the Department of Justice's Civil Rights.

[A]

Division Washington have left in a mass exodus too, amid concerns about the department's.

[B]

Decision to block local authorities from doing their own probe. Renee Good's family attorney spoke with CBS News today. The thought and who do you think her attorney is? Same guy. Same guy who defended George Floyd.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. This is Hotshot, Local Hotshot.

[B]

That there is only a one sided investigation is really not palatable to the family, nor should it be to the.

[A]

Government or the American people.

[B]

The wave of resignations show crumbling confidence and morale inside.

[A]

What are you talking about one sided investigation? An investigation is an investigation. No, but it's one sided or the other.

[B]

Yeah, but it's Trump is corrupt. We all know this. Everything's corrupt. Epstein is really not palatable to the family, nor should it be to the.

[A]

Government or the American people.

[B]

The wave of resignations show crumbling confidence and morale inside the Justice Department. The pattern Seems to be that the administration wants us to do work that advances their political agenda rather than evaluate cases based on the facts about the federal agent that fired the shot. Deputy U.S. attorney General Todd Blanche said in a statement there is currently no basis for a cross criminal civil rights investigation.

[A]

That is a statement that has upset.

[B]

Local authorities in Minneapolis. So there's all kinds of back and forth. They're sending in jags now. I'm not quite sure why, other than to do more stuff. And the fraud keeps being uncovered by Nick Shirley. He's got a new one with another guy.

[A]

Yeah, I like this new one. He's got four bodyguards with him now. He's not an idiot.

[B]

And he has a new guy, another old guy who's unidentified, but okay.

[A]

Oh, it's not the same guy.

[B]

No, it's not. It's a new guy. It's a new guy. When a Somali goes to the doctor, magically they forgot how to speak English, so they need an interpreter there. So the county brings in an interpreter at a hundred dollars an hour, minimum.

[C]

Eight hours to interpret what the doctor.

[B]

Is telling the patient.

[A]

So that's another layer of fraud that nobody's even talked about or revealed. And it's.

[B]

It's millions and millions, hundreds of millions of dollars, all on its own.

[C]

Interpreter services.

[A]

Because what percentage do you think of these people, especially if they were born here in the United States?

[B]

They speak English, right? Of course they do.

[A]

They should not be saying no English.

[B]

And then remember, the interpreter has to get to the doctor's office or the hospital.

[A]

How are they getting there?

[B]

The transportation company. And then they got to get back home. And that patient had to get to the doctor's office.

[A]

How?

[B]

Transportation. Kids got to get to school. How? Transportation. That's why I said that. The transportation is the hub of really, I think, all of this. So basically what we're talking about between.

[A]

All these fraudulent businesses, the daycare, the autism centers, the adult daycare, the home services, and then the transportation. And then on top of that, you have it looped in with them going eventually to the doctors for translators to be paid by the state.

[B]

That's exactly what's happening.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

What a business. I love all these people now doing Nick Shirley's in their own towns. And they're all.

[A]

Everybody's Nick Shirley. Out of the blue.

[B]

We need.

[A]

Out of the blue, every. You're right it here we got in the Bay Area, we got it. I'm sure you in Texas, probably not as many because there's not so much corruption. There's Corruption, but not like here. And. Yeah, but they went to these transportation companies. There's none of. No there. Nobody there. There's no office. It's bull crap. And they're billing him left and right for nothing that's going on.

[B]

Well, the guy.

[A]

And then they getting threatened. They're threatening them.

[B]

The guy said. And thought that was. He said transportation. He said, that's really what this is about. And if you're heard that.

[A]

Yeah, no, he's. Yeah. And they went. They did a thorough investigation. Bullcrap. Transportation companies.

[B]

Yeah. It's not. It's not just Minnesota. It's everywhere. There's no doubt about it. They're just. It's just corruption everywhere. You know, Joy Reid has, you know, ever since she got kicked off of Ms. Now or MSNBC, when it was still MSNBC, still does a show on YouTube and she gets guests. And. And I wanted to play these two clips before we take a break, but because Emilio popped in the state of Minnesota under occupation.

[C]

Minnesota, of course, is our latest state to be inundated by the Trump regime's armed secret police. And I want you guys to understand I use that language very intentionally because if these scenes were playing out in any other country, particularly in a global south country, if they were in the Middle east somewhere or in Africa somewhere, we in the media would absolutely describe.

[B]

I love we in the media on.

[C]

YouTube, what you're about to see as the invasion of a city by regime secret police or by armed regime paramilitary.

[B]

She's got video rollings and everything. John. It's like the show never went away. And Tirali has more viewers. Viewers on YouTube.

[A]

Well, that's probably true.

[B]

Said.

[C]

Have you not learned this is why we killed that lesbian?

[B]

Can you tell us what happened to you? So first off, I'm a United States Marine veteran. They. We were following them from a safe distance. Following ICE agents?

[A]

Yep, following ICE agents.

[C]

They tried. They stopped in the middle of the road. Road and reversed on 62. They tried to ram our car.

[B]

They broke my window.

[A]

They yanked me out by my neck. They threw me to the ground.

[C]

They stomped on me. They pushed my face into the ground. They put the cuffs on as tight as possible to the point where it took six agents to try to get them off.

[B]

Talk about slanted investigation.

[A]

Wait a minute. Why is she even there? If she was cuffed and beaten to a pulp and then obviously taken somewhere, why is she standing there?

[B]

Because it's nonsense, I think. Or she was a troublemaker. Here's the second part.

[C]

You'll Notice that when ICE started out, they were targeting Latino men very intentionally. Most of the people they were running up to on the street were brown men. And that was very intentional because they were trying to put forward a narrative that what they were doing was hunting down the worst of the worst. And the worst of the worst were trend and other gang members. But now, particularly in the wake of Renee Good's murder. Murder, the complexion and gender of the targets is shifting. Have you noticed that you're seeing more and more women now?

[B]

This is really egregious what she does here now. It's like, oh, we're just going after black women. That ICE is just a bunch of Nazi ssers. I mean, do these people really think that ICE is just going around just grabbing people? Do you. Do you feel like that's happening, John?

[A]

No, I don't think so. But. But what? I'm under the impression that these people believe it.

[B]

Oh, there's no doubt about that, because this is the continuous message. And here comes the milieu talk.

[C]

And as you see in that video, more and more people who are. Are black, because remember, the quota is being set by Stephen Miller, and he wanted 3,500 people a day. You saw a black pregnant woman being thrown to the ground and kidnapped and thrown into a van.

[B]

Kidnapped.

[C]

You saw a brown woman who was just on her way to a doctor's appointment who's being given conflicting directions.

[B]

Go, don't go. Go. Get out of the car.

[C]

She has no idea what to do. Then she gets dragged out of the car. She's not being accused of a crime. She's just in there way, way. And you saw a black woman whose husband is dragged off from their home. And you see her out there crying. This is where the regime is going. Yes, please.

[B]

I have to say we shouldn't fall for the Okie doke. We know what they're trying to do. They're trying to excite black folk.

[C]

Correct.

[B]

And everybody else to get angry so they can go ahead and have the authority to pass this stupid state law where they can basically just take over the country and do what they want to do. So black folk do not fall for the Okie doke. Do you remember the Okie dokie doke?

[A]

That was Obama phrase.

[B]

If we. If we Okie doke. You know, it, you know, it sounds Okie doke. The tweets are Okie doke. That's right. The Obama. I think Obama's still, still giving people direction with his Okie dokie.

[A]

Oh, you might be right, because I keep seeing Schumerisms in some of the crap that the, that the Democrats pull. Like that candlelight vigil has Schumer written all over it. Of course he was at the beginning, the front of it. But the whole idea, it's like when they all got a. Took a knee in Congress and they had to wrap some wrap around their neck. That was Schumer.

[B]

They.

[A]

The sit ins, I think were Schumer. Remember when Congress sitting in its own chambers, they did the sit in. They did it in on themselves.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. These guys, they never let up.

[B]

No, but you're right, it's. There's a portion of the country that absolutely believes what they're saying. They absolutely.

[A]

There's a big portion.

[B]

This was a classic Scott Adams. Same movie, two different screens. That was a class. That was one he would hammer over and over again and there's no changing it.

[A]

Yeah. We had it as dimension A and dimension B. Yeah.

[B]

Well, we don't even go there anymore because they're lost. It's sad. They're lost. I don't think we can ever get them back to reality.

[A]

Well, they say every once in a while this is the problem. I can't disagree. Which is what you hate me saying. But there's every so often one of them snaps and goes over to. And they say, wait a minute, I've been bull crap trapped. I'm. I'm not going to put up with this anymore. And they, and they quit. Remember the, you know, leave the party. They.

[B]

Well, you remember who that was? Candace Owens. Blexit.

[A]

That's right. She was one of the first to do it.

[B]

And what did she turn out to be? A disruption.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You gotta be careful. Gotta be careful.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. Candace Owens is a good example of. You don't know what the hell's going on with her.

[B]

No. And she's kind of fallen off the radar. I mean the whole. Everything is falling apart as predicted. It's like you can't be hammering on one thing continuously. They don't understand. Audiences don't like that. They get tired of it and they need. And they need good arguments from tired to time, which is why people continue to come to us less because we.

[A]

Don'T stay on one topic.

[B]

No, we. You can be in Africa one minute and you can be in Minneapolis the next and you wouldn't know the difference.

[A]

Well, okay, thank you for the reminder that I did Africa clips. So I'm now the one at minus one.

[B]

No Africa.

[A]

Your turn to do Africa Eclipse next.

[B]

Africa and Somalia. That was my point. Somalia, Somalia, Somalia, Sudan. It's all there. The same. Yes. Hey, with that, I want to thank you for your courage in the morning. To you, the man who put the sea in the. I don't have anything. I don't have anything. What? What?

[A]

Well, good morning to you in the air, subs in the water, dames and knights out there in the morning. To the trolls in the troll room.

[B]

Let me count y' all for a second.

[A]

Hold on.

[B]

Yeah, you know, whenever there's a war or somebody dies, people show up. We're almost back at 1800 for our Thursday. Yeah, it's death and war is good for the show.

[A]

Yeah, Yeah, I noticed this.

[B]

The trolls are with us here in the troll room@trollroomio or noagendastream.com you can always listen live through a modern podcast app. I highly recommend you get one of those. Really is the way to listen to the no Agenda show. If you want to listen live and even if you don't, you want to get one of those because within 90 seconds of us posting the show, you will be notified. You don't have to wait 15 minutes, sometimes hours when your app updates. It's. It's very old fashioned. So go with the modern podcast atmodernpodcastapps.com. and the trolls are of course part of our value for value system. They contribute. We got a good contribution. We found out that efficiency experts. There you go. That was a good troll contribution. Many other ways you can contribute your time and your talent and your treasure. The three T's of value for value. One of them is by bringing his artwork for the show. And we already mentioned him earlier, but comic strip blogger just nailed it for episode 1832. We titled that Spicy Mode. And there she was. There was the pregnant astronaut floating in space. And it was good. I mean, we both looked at all the different. Yeah, you also had a naked astronaut.

[A]

Yeah, that wasn't happening.

[B]

That was not going to happen at all. Oh, what happened? Oh, I hit the wrong one. There we go. Let's see what we had. It's all AI, obviously, which is just what it is these days. Yes. He had two pregos in space. Obviously we're not going to do the naked lady. I'm not going to do that. You kind of like the Matthew Dopkos astronaut baby. The space baby, which is another contender. This is all a no agenda art generator.com, which has been available for probably 15 years in one version or another. And anybody can contribute by uploading art to it. And we just select one and we credit someone as an artist and, and it's all AI what can I say? It's. It's bland, it's weak. You're right, it's annoying. Was there anything else that, that we liked? I don't think there was anything.

[A]

Well, I did use please donate for the newsletter.

[B]

Of course. That's what you want to do.

[A]

That was a good one.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, the little sad puppy for some. Instead of being brown and white, he's black and white. Which I thought was. I don't know. I did that.

[B]

The one by Senate. By M. Senate. That one, Yeah.

[A]

M. Senate. There was something else I thought that somebody did. Something very creative. Well, talk about it.

[B]

Tomorrow.

[A]

We'll talk about tomorrow on Tomorrow show.

[B]

Tomorrow show. Let me see how many. Lots of Scott Adams, of course. Yeah. All right, well, there's still room, people. I recommend you give it a shot. Go to your. Go to your favorite AI Art generator for as long as they last. You know, there's all kinds of things happening, happening now with Claude, I think it is code generator. Is that a Claude Code generator. Now they're saying, hey, you know, it's been in our terms of service for a couple years now or whatever, all of 2025. But you can't actually use us in other products unless you pay for higher tier access. Everybody's losing their minds. It's like, well, what do you expect? These guys got to make money at some point. That point is not now. And I think the only. I've said it before, I think Google will win.

[A]

Nobody else current numbers. I think it was, I don't know, it was chat GPT or one of these groups. They, they came out with some numbers and they were, they did like a hundred. A hundred. I think it was a hundred million in sales and, and they lost 1.4 billion.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

That's crazy. So the basic. So the numbers. So you have, you have more or less less everything you do for free on these systems. They're. They're giving you the result plus 10 bucks.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

For all practical purposes, they're giving you a $10 bill every time you use these things.

[B]

I was thinking this morning that when, when they have to upgrade all of these data centers with all new Nvidia chips and everything, there's going to be so much cool stuff you'll be able to buy for pennies on the dollar that you can then run at home.

[A]

Because right now there's a business opportunity.

[B]

Oh yeah.

[A]

Reselling these because what does the high.

[B]

End Nvidia stuff go for 10,050. Some go for 18,000.

[A]

Well, they sell mostly whole systems now. They sell complete data centers. They're in the business of. Makes it hard for anyone to compete.

[B]

Yeah, well, they're going to keep that going for a while. That is 90% of our GDP. Probably can't ruin the. That. Gotta keep that. Gotta keep that thing going. This kind of come for the new gambit.

[A]

The.

[B]

The new chat.

[A]

No, this one's gonna break the bank. Sorry.

[B]

So we don't even need a central bank to break us. We just need Chad gbt.

[A]

That'll break the bank. There's no doubt about it. I mean, the numbers don't add up.

[B]

But if you only give us a little more power then time, then a little more power, then we will have. We will finally have real intell. I'm impressed though. I'm impressed with Gemini.

[A]

Yeah, I know. You've been saying this for weeks. You really like it?

[B]

Well, for search. For search stuff. It's good at search stuff. I mean and for some coding. But how big is that market? What's the tam of coding?

[A]

It's not going to pay for it, that's for sure. No, this is. This is a. It's a great technology, I think. I mean, you think it's sucks, but I like it. And it's just. It's a super. And the reason. One of the reasons I like. Because I think I sense that I'm. I'm getting. They're shipping me money.

[B]

Well, I'm. I'm not saying it sucks. I'm saying the art sucks. That. That, you know, we don't have real artists anymore. We don't have. Well, we actually have two today because people got so fed up of hearing the slop. But it. Yeah, it sucks because it's hurting the show. It's hurting the show with mediocre art. That's okay. Okay. It's not great.

[A]

I think like that last piece that Common strip blogger did of the pregnant woman in. In Space. I think it wasn't. You know who. No, nobody has time to. To actually render that in time to get it in. By the end of the show, it's. This has made it.

[B]

No, we get lots of quick art. 10, 15, 20 people who would do it and they all gave up. It is her hurt the quality.

[A]

How about this? They would have given up anyway because it's too much work.

[B]

No, no, they gave up because they.

[A]

It's like the song. Okay, here's. The songs are a good example.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We had five years ago we had fabulous songwriters and people doing parodies of songs and cutting in Obama's stammering and all the rest of it. They all quit because.

[B]

Because. Because they can't compete.

[A]

No, they all quit before the AI started taking over.

[B]

Well, that's true. They did start. They started. I think Covid killed a lot of people. I mean, not literally as well, but, you know, a lot of people just were. Did they? They blew their wand.

[A]

The AI has saved the show.

[B]

Okay, let us thank our executive and associate executive producer for episode 1834. We thank everybody. $50 and above. And we start with a D donation from Spain, from Valencia. And this is interesting. I think this is Eric. Eric Jan Huben. He's a Dutch guy, but I think he's. He's in Valencia, but he's part time Brazilian. It's very confusing. And here he is. Dear John Adams, since the beginning of the no Agenda show, I'm a listener, but I've only donated $33 over 10 years ago. Well, okay, good to see you back on the list. I'm here by stepping up to Knighthood with this $966 donation, Adam may top it off to $1,000. He actually did email me about this and I say, yes, I would drop in a silver dollar. So there it is. As a Dutchman, I got to know.

[A]

The US Sounds a lot like the penny.

[B]

Yeah, it's. Yes. I didn't have time to hit it 100 times. As a Dutchman, I got to know the US in 86, 87 as a senior at Petaluma High School and still remembered as the most outstanding athlete. More importantly at the school, I wrote a paper about an ambitious New York businessman, and I predicted that one day he would become the US President. My teacher, Mrs. Paula Stoneich, was really proud to read that. That would be so nice, she said, because he's German, just like me. Now, almost 40 years later, I conclude that the no Agenda show is the only one that can separate the politics, the show, and the trolling by that man from New York. And that is something very much needed in today's crazy media world. Ciao, says Eric, by the way. P.S. as a part time Brazilian, I want the title Baron of Big beautiful Bahia. But it seems my donation. Bahia. But it seems my donation only makes me a knight. In that case, I'd like to be referred as the knight of the Big beautiful Bahia, please.

[A]

Bahia.

[B]

Bahia. What am I saying? Bahia. Bahia.

[A]

You're saying Bahia.

[B]

Where is Bahia?

[A]

It's kind of north. The east of Sao Paulo. It's a. It's the big giant. It's a big state that had. That is known as. You don't go there without partying. 24 7, 365 is the party state of Brazil. And I'm saying it. Bahia is very famous for music and.

[B]

Parties and as sound clips. He wanted Adam's Birds in space from yesterday's show with the echo effect. Well, we don't typically clip stuff out of the show because like, wow, someone's going to request that. But I'll do it live for you. And his second clip is Space Force. So I can do that. Birds in space.

[A]

Space Force. Nice. Sir Fat dad, parts unknown. 369. He's Sir Fat. He's also Sir Fat dad of the BMX BMXicans.

[B]

He has been a frequent supporter of the show BMXicans.

[A]

With this donation at 36969, I am now two times a night, which I believe is a baronet. Gay. As gay as that title sounds. Oh, okay. Gay as that. He's got it spelled funny.

[B]

That's. No, that's the spelling of fake and gay. G H. Yes.

[A]

I've never seen it spelled out fake and gay with G H E Y. That's cute.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

May I please have a F35 race karma, as I am once again attempting to qualify. Qualify for the USA BMX World Championship team in the 50 plus. Wow. 50 plus cruisers category. BMX man. I 50 years old, driving a motorcycle like a maniac. I don't know. BMX cycling championships.

[B]

It's not a motorcycle. It's a. It's a.

[A]

It's a bike bike.

[B]

It's a mountain bike.

[A]

Ra. Yeah, but they do and rough or it's rough on the prostate are in Brisbane, Australia this year and sure, I won't win, but I couldn't think of a better place to get my butt whooped on a bike than on the vacation of a lifetime down under. Thank you for your attention to this matter. Rob, aka Sir Fat dad of the BMXicans. You've got.

[C]

Karma.

[B]

Now, before we continue, did you get a. A bag. Did you get a bag from katydietrich.net but the toiletry bag.

[A]

Maybe.

[B]

Yeah, I think now.

[A]

Yeah, I had the shaver stuff in it.

[B]

No, I didn't have any shavers. It's a.

[A]

Okay. No, this is a bag I got before.

[B]

Okay. Because she sent me Kate Dietrich.net she sent there. They have no agenda toiletry bags. Now, on the website, there's the Podfather bag and The Grumpy Bag, I think it's called.

[A]

Why am I the grumpy?

[B]

I don't know. Go figure. But my bag included a small box of Dutch licorice.

[A]

And you and your Dutch licorice.

[B]

I know it's going to kill me. And $450 in cash. So I wondered if you had received $450 in cash so we can credit them appropriately. Appropriately, I.

[A]

It would be. It would have been opened by. It would have been in the box. It wasn't. There was no big box in the.

[B]

Box, so she sent it to me. So. But we'll. We'll make sure that gets into the. Into the proper accounts. So thank you very much, Kate dietrich dot net. I don't think there was a note other than, here's your bag, love you, maybe.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah. Make double, double check that, though.

[A]

Because, you know, well, maybe something will come. I mean, we got a donation from Jackie Green and his wife, Kyle, and she.

[B]

That's coming up.

[A]

Yeah, but she said. I'm just saying. She sent something about a month ago, never showed up.

[B]

I hate that.

[A]

And then this, the other thing she mails it, shows up the next day. Well, so Erededarian's up. He's in Trabuco, Camp Canyon, California. He is in for four. I'm sorry, 3:43, 75. And he says, rest in peace, Scott Adams. Oh, I'm sorry. I just read two in a row. Let me. Okay. The one I was supposed to read, that was yours.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

So I'm gonna. So I don't wanna get off schedule. So I'm gonna go. Sir Cucaracha, who's in Finland, Minnesota. The only reason is because I have the note queued up. 33333. And he wrote a typed note that says, sir Cucaracha of The Northwoods. Finland, Minnesota. Nuts. And he wants Noodle Gun, WTC 7 and F35, Karma, ITM, Gitmo Nation. I feel like a massive douche for not donating for so long. Please de douche me.

[C]

You've been de douched.

[A]

Adam. How can I donate bitcoin to the show directly from my hardware wallet? No, QR scanner. There is a link in the newsletter that is specific for this. Yep, you just go to that link.

[B]

Well, does it take you to the QR scan? He's looking for the bitcoin wallet address, which we can certainly put on the website.

[A]

No, it doesn't. Take it. The QR codes are on the note newsletter and then the link for people that use a Computer is there too, and you click on it or you click on it. You can click on the. On the QR codes and it'll take you to that normal methodology, which I.

[B]

Think is what he's looking for. No, that's. That's not true.

[A]

What does it do?

[B]

It doesn't. It just takes you the QR codes. He wants. He doesn't want to scan that little.

[A]

Did you take that little link at the bottom them there and cut and paste it? This is more QR codes.

[B]

What link?

[A]

On the newsletter.

[B]

In the newsletter. No.

[A]

Yeah, so I'm talking about the newsletter. I don't know what you're talking about.

[B]

Well, my point is it's very easy for us to add that to the website.

[A]

It's on the newsletter and it's. I think it's. I think it takes us to the website, which is our website, which has that information. I'm pretty sure. Sure.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I don't use Bitcoin, so I can't confirm any of this. But nobody's complained about it.

[B]

Well, he is. He's. He's complaining about it.

[A]

Yeah, but he does. Does he even get the newsletter.

[B]

But the newsletter takes you to the website. That link and on the website it's just the QR codes. Let me double check.

[A]

That's redundant. Does it make sense?

[B]

Well, yeah, Or. Or click here to use stripe.

[A]

Let's see.

[B]

Go there. No, no, I'll work.

[A]

Yeah, you fix it.

[B]

Yeah, I'm going to fix it.

[A]

I found your North Sea continues his note. I found your North Sea Nexus analysis to be particularly enlightening. I was trying to describe the North Sea Nexus thesis to a friend. A friend. I have tried to hid in the mouth multiple times, but to no avail. Avail. He was intrigued, but I still can't get him to listen to the show. This gave me an idea for the next vacation special. Calling all no Agenda producers who are actually competent with technology. Please make a special show with all the clips discussion discussing the North Sea Nexus. I don't know if we have two hours worth.

[B]

I don't think so.

[A]

I think this could actually be a good intro show to hit some people in the mouth and leave a mark. Please credit my son Galvin with this donation towards the future knighthood. Thanks, John and Adam, for all the producers and the producers for everything you do to make the best podcasting universe possible. Sir Cucaracha of the Northwoods.

[B]

I'm gonna shoot you in the face with my noodle gun, you racist piece of shit. I get to my pasta Glock locked and loaded.

[A]

WTC 7 won't go away.

[C]

You've got Karma.

[B]

We go to sir yan, innkeeper of Amsterdam, 333.33 and he says, Dear Adam, I'm not sure if my note was delivered last Tuesday. In the meantime, the horrible news came in that Robert Jensen has passed away. You and he had dinner in my restaurant together prior to Covid. Yes, I rem. He's a very nice restaurant in Amsterdam. Let's make it a Robert Jensen donation request. Karma for my best friend, Gil, with love, AKA Sir Young, the innkeeper of Amsterdam. Thank you very much.

[C]

You've got Karma.

[A]

But it plugged his own restaurant.

[B]

No, he doesn't have to do that.

[A]

Dutch Travis Moore in Gibsonville, N.C. 333.33 ITM. Thank you for being the best podcast in the universe. You're welcome. I'd like to congratulate our son Jordan on getting his commercial plumbing license at 22. I know you needed a license to be a plumber. Can I get some goat? Karma for the. For the Bill. For a Bill's win over the Broncos. Go Bills.

[C]

You've got Karma.

[A]

And good luck.

[B]

And there we have Dame Girl. Kyle. Kylie. I forget now. Kylie. I think it was Kyle.

[A]

No, no, it's Kyle.

[B]

Kyle. Thank you. And sir tg. That was the note. Wishing you and your family, families and all of no Agenda nation, peace, love and good health for 2026. Dame Guru Kiley and Sir Jackie Green. And the amount was 333.33. Thank you very much.

[A]

Yeah, it was nice. Sir Joshua in. In Noonan. Noonan, Georgia. ITM Gentlemen, coming to you from the. Chile. From Chile. Poland. He's in Poland. Poland. My only request for you is to pull up no Agenda show episode 875. At 2 minutes 33 seconds of 45. 2 hours 33 minutes 45, Adam discusses the electoral process where no candidate gets to 270. Lo and behold, Adam is the reason we had Sleepy Joe as president. And four years of Adam is the reason. Huh? And four years of stumbling and mumbling, that's your fault, Adam. And John was cheering for it, too.

[B]

I think you really tipped the scales by cheering for it.

[A]

Thanks, guys. Random Alex Jones jingle and an F35 Karma, which seems to be very popular today. Thank you.

[B]

Third time today. That's crazy.

[A]

Yes. Thank you. It's a random number theory. Sir Joshua, protector of the gun line. What is he talking about? About?

[B]

I don't know. Apparently on show 875 at 2 hours, 33 minutes and 45 seconds. I mean, if you want, I can listen to that real quick for a second. N A. What was the number? 875. Might as well check it out now. 875. Oh, there is no NA 875. How about that, huh?

[A]

What?

[B]

What? Did we miss a show?

[A]

Somehow the plot thickens.

[B]

I'll have to look that one and see what that was about. He wanted a random AJ and F35AI. Music has made me nauseous.

[A]

Where'd you get that one?

[B]

It was random.

[C]

Karma.

[B]

Random. Purely random.

[A]

I doubt it.

[B]

It was random.

[A]

Sir Nate the Rogue in Central Point, Oregon. Oh, that you? You're up. Sorry.

[B]

Oh, I'm sorry. I was already off looking at episode 875. Sir Nate the Rogue, Central Point, Oregon, 225 Associate Executive Producership, ITM appreciate you both between dimensions. No kidding. A quick note on Iran. I have a childhood best friend whose dad is from Iran. They live in California now. A lot of the Persians do. He still has aunts, uncles, cousins. Sets are over there. And he confirmed yesterday they're not able to contact anybody in Iran right now. Yes, we're aware. Keep the people of Iran in my thoughts, Sir Nate the Rogue. Thank you very much, Sir Nate.

[A]

And there we have Linda Lupatkin in Castle Rock, Colorado. $200. Jobs. Karma. She says for a competitive edge with a resume that gets results, go to Imagemakers, Inc. For all your executive resume and job search needs. That's Image Makers, Inc. With a K. And work with Linda Lou, the duchess of jobs and writer of winning resumes.

[C]

Jobs, Jobs, Jobs, and jobs.

[A]

Let's vote for jobs.

[C]

You've got karma.

[B]

Which brings us to. How about that? Dana Brunetti checks in with no note.

[A]

That seems unlikely.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, he'll email me about the slightest thing, but no note. $200. And he continues his streak as a mere associate executive producer. So that is wonderful. Thank you very much, Dana Brunetti.

[A]

I'm suspicious.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Shingle Springs. Is that where he is? Shingle Springs, California.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Well, maybe it's him. Well, we'd like a note if you somehow forgot to send us the note. Dana Brunetti. Go look him up on IMDb.com he will now be adding yet another associate executive producer title to his IMDb account. He actually has it pinned to the top, which is kind of cool. And that is our executive and associate executive producers for episode eight, 1834. Thank you so much. And of course, we'll be thanking the rest of our $50 and above supporters of the show, value for value, which means you can support us anytime you want, any amount you want for any reason. And with these executive associate executive credits, they're good for perpetuity and you can use them anywhere. Hollywood credits are recognized and we thank you very much and of course we'll always read your note when you send in one of those. And again, the rest of the people $50 and above. In our stage second segment, thank you for supporting the best podcast in the universe.

[A]

Our formula is this.

[B]

We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Music has made me nauseous. Still trying to find show 875. I don't know what happened. Oh, there it is. We did have show 875. What was the time code on that? Let's listen to this.

[A]

Time code was 2, 2, 4. I'll get it, hold on. Oops.

[B]

Huh, let's see.

[A]

Yeah, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4, 5.

[B]

Okay, 2:33, 3. That's tough to get there. Let's see, what were we talking about? Oh, it should be playing. Why isn't up?

[A]

Oh, here we go.

[B]

Yeah, it is, it is. But they didn't do it. I have an update.

[A]

Hear about the protest that you're cutting.

[B]

Out for some reason you're cutting out. Listen to how crappy this sounds.

[A]

I'm cutting out?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, you're cutting out now. I'll find it for the next show. This too much. There's too much nonsense listen to. But some, someone else said that I was right about something else and forgot what it was.

[A]

Yeah, you're right about stuff all the time.

[B]

Nah. Well, not really.

[A]

Yeah, so I have a Venezuela clip. I have, I, I have two tik Tok clips that are interesting. Okay, here is the independent woman.

[C]

When someone tells me that they're interested in me and I should just give them a chance, I genuinely ask them, what are you going to give me that I already don't give myself? I have an extensive routine.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

I wake up at 4:30, I read for an hour, then I go to the gym for an hour. Then I get ready to go to my full time job. While I'm getting ready, I make myself breakfast. Then I pack my lunch which I have already meal prepped for myself for the full week. I go to work, I come home from work, I come home, I go to the gym for another hour or two. Then I come back up to my apartment. Then that I pay rent for and I clean, I cook anything else. And then if I have any time before my 9:30pm bedtime. I do another one of my many hobbies that I have. Color, read, crochet, puzzle.

[B]

Who knows?

[C]

What are you going to give me that I already don't give myself? I want something, I buy it. I pay for all my own bills. I cook for myself. I clean for myself. What are you going to give me that I already don't give myself?

[B]

Because?

[C]

Because my time is fully booked now.

[B]

That was interesting you said.

[A]

Yes, because I'm listening to this woman who's a psycho, and I'm thinking, this is the perfect employee that you want to hire for a company. She's a dedicated person that's very independent. She work her butt off till she drops dead at the company. And she probably works sheep. I just think this, to me exemplifies a modern woman who has just decided to become a cog in the wheel. And one of her hobbies is coloring, by the way, which tells you a lot. I think that's a key.

[B]

Wow. The show is off the rails now. This is off the rails. What are you doing?

[A]

Okay, let's play this one then. Then we're done. I won't do any more tiktoks for a month. Fat chronically ill woman.

[C]

If I needed a job, I would ask for a job. I'm disabled on chronically ill and can't work. I' disabled and chronically ill and can't work. Hi, I'm disabled and chronically ill and can't work. I had somebody DM me yesterday, had a message request, hi, I have a website. You could do that work. It's probably the same amount of work or less than making Tik toks. First of all, I'm hyper fixated on Tik tok. If you don't know what that means, then you don't get to have a conversation with me. If you don't understand how that works, you don't get to have a conversation with me. But all of my videos say I am disabled and chronically ill and cannot work. Or they should, or they imply that I am disabled and chronically ill and cannot work. I am asking for money. I am asking for money specifically because that is what I need. If I needed a job, I would ask for a job. Say again? If I needed a job, I would ask for a job. Y' all are so abusive and make yourselves believe that you're being helpful when you are just ignoring people and imposing your own will onto them. I am disabled and chronically ill and cannot work. If I Needed a job. I would ask for a job.

[B]

Okay. And this was interesting. Why?

[A]

Well, she's fat for starters.

[B]

Well she can do, she can do call center work.

[A]

No, she doesn't want to work. Oh, and there's a bunch of people out there like this. There's a lot of tiktokers that I'm not going to take a job. Why should I be working? I just want money.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's just beyond me and I can't quite figure it out.

[C]

Out.

[A]

And they, and you, you can't have a conversation with them because you don't understand anything. You're an idiot. And I just, I don't know, I'm just kind of baffled by these people out there in the wild that are doing these things because I know she's sincere.

[B]

I don't see why you're baffled. This has become, ever since Patreon, this has become a business model. Just send me money. Subscribe to my Patreon. I'm doing fun stuff. Send me money. This, this is.

[A]

But she's not doing fun, fun stuff. Well, she's just complaining.

[B]

Well, you're.

[A]

Well I guess that's what I do too.

[B]

So I guess some people say put her on deck. That's right, put her on deck.

[A]

You put it. You would do an interview with her.

[B]

Darren, and this lady. It's going to be beautiful.

[A]

Oh, that's a great show.

[B]

Well along those lines, maybe we could make a Barbie doll for her. At 28 years old, Ellie Middleton says this is the first time she's seen a doll that reflects her day to day experience as an autistic person. She's looking off to the side slightly.

[C]

Which is really nice because yeah, I.

[B]

Basically never make eye contact. Developed with advice from the Autistic Self advocacy Network, Autistic Barbie wears noise canceling headphones to protect her from loud noises, carries an AAC tablet which some autistic people use to communicate and a pink fidget spinner that provides an outlet for stimming or self stimulatory behavior. I think it's so nice to see.

[C]

Those parts of I guess myself that.

[B]

I'm maybe embarrassed of sometimes or not as proud of as I should be. But seeing those like as part of who she is I think was, was really nice to see. Autistic Barbie follows in the footsteps of blind Barbie, Barbie with Down syndrome and Barbie with type 1 diabetes. Holy crap. I had no idea they expanded the line. Yeah, that's fantastic. We need podcaster Bobby Barbie. That's what we need. Podcaster Barbie influence Tiktoker Barbie. Yeah, all of these.

[A]

And obese money. What you just said is money in the bank. And obese Tick tocker influencer Barbie.

[B]

Obese influencer doesn't want to work Barbie. I'm telling you Mattel, give us a call. Final clip for me is this may actually lead into your Venezuela clip because I believe this is about intelligence and secret documents regarding the Venezuela op. Members of the media expressing deep concern after the FBI took the rare step of going to the home of a Washington Post reporter and confiscating her phone and other electronic devices. After early morning FBI searched at the residence of reporter Hannah Nason, the Post issuing an urgent message to the staff. Quote, this extraordinary aggressive action is deeply concerning and raises profound questions and concern around the Constitution protection for our work.

[A]

So none of this, it wasn't a big deal when Obama did all this.

[B]

Threw people in jail.

[A]

He threw people in jail. But that was okay. But, but Trump's FBI. Trump's FBI. The, the FBI looking for the goods on somebody that they have targeted. Not this reporter. That, that's not right. Okay, I just wanted to get that straight.

[B]

After early morning FBI searched at the residence of reporter Hannah Nason, the Post issuing an urge to the staff quote, this extraordinary aggressive action is deeply concerning and raises profound questions and concern around the constitutional protections for our work. But tonight, DOJ officials pushing back claiming that the search was necessary because the reporter had received classified information from a government contractor who was arrested last week for the unlawful retention of national defense information. Justice Department official telling a At the time of his arrest, Aurelio Luis Perez Lugones was communicating with the Washington Post reporter on his mobile device. And in the chat there was classified information.

[A]

David.

[B]

Washington Post leaders say they were told the newspaper and the reporter were not targets of the investigation. But David, this action is so rare that a number of media experts are calling it an aggressive escalation and a threat to the free press. Now, my understanding was that this guy had some information on the Venezuela op and that that's maybe. And it tells me that you, that everything you do on your phone is pretty much public. How do they know this? How do they know the chat, whatever chat they were talking about?

[A]

They use a signal.

[B]

Signal is supposed to be end to end encrypted. How is it possible?

[A]

Well, they, on the end, her end, they can look at the chat.

[B]

Just look at her. Just look at her screen, you mean? Yeah, yeah. All right. Do you have the Venezuela.

[A]

That was the idea. The Venezuela clip. I have Just the update from yesterday.

[C]

President Trump is announcing that what he calls a very bad leaker on Venezuela is now in jail. This is coming as the FBI searches the home of a Washington Post reporter as part of an investigation into a Pentagon contractor who allegedly leaked classified information that Attorney General Pam Bondi says posed a risk to the nation's national security. President Trump is also recently giving a readout of a call he had today with interim President of Venezuela, Delsey Rodriguez. He says that they discussed oil, minerals, trade and national security and touts the partnership between Venezuela and the U.S. and tomorrow, the President's expected to meet with the Venezuelan opposition leader Maria Machado, here at the White House.

[B]

Yeah, the more I think about Machado, who, by the way, wasn't the candidate. Someone pointed it out to us. She. She was an organizer, but was not the candidate. It was some other dude. You remember his name?

[A]

Yeah. No, I don't.

[B]

But she's obviously some kind of shill. Why else. Why else would you get a piece of prize? But who else got a peace prize? Let me think. Obama. Trump doesn't. That's why he doesn't want her in there. He'll meet with her to take the peace prize from her because she's going to give it to him, but he doesn't want her running. It makes no sense. If you win a peace prize, you're in the system, wouldn't you say?

[A]

I'm not going to be able. I can't think of any reason that that's not absolutely true. Because Obama's thing was a scam.

[B]

Yeah. And so was this.

[A]

He got a peace prize for giving a couple. This is before he became president, just before they inaugurated him. They. He gave a bunch of speeches, you know, for about a year, and they were all just, you know, pieces. Speeches about peace. So there you get the prize just for talking about talking a big game. Then as soon as he got in office, he started bombing people. It was a farce.

[B]

Yes. So there's. And also the oil baron keeps. He's very forceful with me. He's like, nobody wants to do anything in Venezuela unless the government pays them to. It's very low reward for the risk. And the only. The only guys who will make any money is actually, didn't the president say, oh, we're gonna. Which oil company do you say they can go pound circumstances sand? Was it Exxon?

[A]

No, no, definitely not Exxon. No, it wasn't Exxon didn't tell them to pound sand.

[B]

No, it was.

[A]

Or salt in my case.

[B]

Hold on A second it was, well those. Who was it now? I can't remember. What are the big three?

[A]

Well Chevron, who's already there, they're not being told to do anything other than what they're doing.

[B]

Yeah, they just.

[A]

Chevron's got the best, they got the foothold.

[B]

I thought it was ExxonMobil and the.

[A]

Other big boy is mobile and Exxon.

[B]

I thought it was ExxonMobil actually ExxonMobil.

[A]

So that doesn't count. That's right. They merged and so you have Phillips is the big boy. Well Conoco Phillips I think is.

[B]

The President told someone they. Because they were.

[A]

I think he told BP or these.

[B]

Europeans maybe, maybe it was. Was bp. Well anyway but, but they. No, it wasn't bp. It's. It was one of the big refiners who was already here in America already refining this stuff. He's like oh those guys aren't going to get anything from us.

[A]

I don't know, I wish I remembered. I'm sorry. Look at it.

[B]

I'm ill prepared. I'm trying to but I can't find it. Thank you to the multiple military Department of Defense. 29 years of Department of Defense intelligence experience. Yep. We love people like you. 300 round rounds a minute is nothing. Apparently Delta Force operators could easily achieve 650 rounds per minute and the squad automatic weapons have a cycling rate of 450 to 500 rounds a minute. Which I think kind of goes to your point that that sonic weapon and all that stuff which some say would probably be concussion, a flashbang without a flash. That that is indeed just a bunch of problems. Propaganda.

[A]

Yeah. The scaram.

[B]

Yeah. And scare the, the drug networks.

[A]

Yeah. And I think the guy who made all the commentary, the so called guard, you know who said oh they did this. I don't want to experience that again. Bleeding from my nose and my eyes and I was throwing up. I mean that's just a scare. Scare these, you know, dumb drug dealers.

[B]

Yeah, it was Exxon John. President Trump Really?

[A]

Exxon of all of them?

[B]

Yeah, yeah it was Exxon.

[A]

Oh, I wonder what happened.

[B]

But Exxon in Baton Rouge has a refinery to perfect for Venezuelan oil. So they're like yeah, bring it on. Let someone else go do that. We're not going to do it. So it's the weirdest thing. What is oil at? Oil is like at a very low rate right now. Very low price compared that heavy stuff.

[A]

Still expensive. Yeah, that's the Brent. If you look at the two prices, the West Texas WTI number is always about 10 bucks. Bucks less a barrel than Brent, which is the heavy sour crap.

[B]

Well, there you go. Everybody donate to the no Agenda show. Send some of that heavy sour crap. We'll know what to do with it.

[A]

I'm gonna show my support by donating to no Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that.

[B]

Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.

[A]

Yeah. On no Agenda inside. Yeah, we have a few more people to thank for today's show. What is 1834. And Adam will read them off one at a time above 50 and below 200.

[B]

Yes. And we got a really long note, which I'm not going to read because we don't have to, from Mason Strong. But Mason did say, please consider this a Scott Adams donation. Wrote a beautiful eulogy, but it's a little bit, bit too long. In fact, it's way too long. And he was very appreciative of what Scott Adams said was $150 from. And Mason is in Cochrane, Alberta, California. Dame rita Sparks, Nevada, $115.26 with an ITM. Thank you, Pete Lachance, 106.41. And he says, God, continue to bless Crackpot and Buzzkill for the best podcast in the universe. He wants to know what I think of Chappelle crapping on Charlie Kirk and his new special. I have not watched. That is. Have you watched? I have not. For some reason, I'm like, kind of. I don't desire to watch Chappelle anymore.

[A]

Well, I had the. I. I heard about it like a week or two ago, this new thing, and I tried to find it on Netflix and it didn't. The order was out or something. I said I just gave up looking for it. So I didn't. I didn't see it either. Now go look.

[B]

By the way, did I say Alberta, California?

[A]

Yeah, you did. I was gonna. The problem is I can't. I can't see what it actually says on that line because that note is so long, it blows out the spreadsheet because I'm going back saying, what is he talking about? Alberta.

[B]

Well, you know what?

[A]

Alberta, Canada. Is that what he's really.

[B]

You know what? Before you know it, it will be part of California. So just stick around. Sebastian Lambinon, alicante, another Spanish supporter. 105. 35. And Sebastian says, Grutjes at Zonach. And Kurt, so clearly a duchy saying, greetings from a sunny and corrupt Spain. Boots on the ground. Tammy Klein, Naples, Florida. 100. Jennifer Ryan from Snoqualmie. And I say, it right. Snoqualmie, Washington. 100 Douglas Roude, Bush, Topeka, Kansas. 100. Jonathan Ferris. 8438. Kevin McLaughlin. There he is. 8008. Every single episode he comes in with a boob donation. Thank you very much. He is the Archduke of Luna. And lovers of America. And boobs. Christian gruelick, Winter Haven, Florida. Also boob donation. And Martin Bennis sends us 808 a boob donation. From Cartersville, Georgia. Mary O', Leary, Libertyville, Illinois. 75. Russell Curry from St. Cloud, Florida. 71. Mike Wolven, from. What is this? Put his address in there. Minnesota. Don't do that.

[A]

What is that doing there?

[B]

Don't put your address in there. 68. 57. Tom Ross, Fromar, California. 6633. Stephen Shoemaker. I think it's Shoemake.

[A]

It's shoemake, yeah.

[B]

Xenia, Ohio. 64.

[A]

The reason that that happens, that's this check that comes in. And when Jay has to hand at it, she naturally, occasionally, but not always puts what it should be, which is Schumacher.

[B]

There you go. Go Sir Don Francis with the small boobs. He says love is lit. He is the Baron of Chandler. Les Tarkowski, Kingman, Arizona. Small Boobs. 6,006. Jimmy Beckner, West Point, California. 60. Nancy Murphy. 5,721. Christopher Dector, 5,678. We see what you did there. Thank you. Paul. Erskine.

[A]

I think it's Erskine.

[B]

Erskine, Lake Forest Park, WA 557. 77. Gizla woods is Woods. Woods.

[A]

Giselle. Gisela.

[B]

I would say Gisela.

[A]

Oh, maybe.

[B]

Maybe Gisela. I was. I think Gisela.

[A]

Yeah. Yes, you're probably right. Yeah, I think it would be gizzle.

[B]

North Royalton, Ohio. 55. 55. Happy birthday to my amazing husband Tom. Celebrating the Big 55 on January 17th. He's on the birthday list. He is my favorite human. And. And she says, tom, you are truly a no agenda knight in my heart. And I'm so grateful to do life with you. Here's to another great year ahead. And she thanks us for keeping them both sane and endlessly entertained. Sir Austin Baron of the Puget Sound. Double nickels on the dime. Charles Tracy from Hickory, North Carolina. 55. Lake Munnel. Luke Munnell. Luke, Los Angeles, California. 5272 Yupcart. Which means joke card from Den Haag in the Netherlands. And he says, hey, I'll read it in Dutch, but je fetech sifierde grutjes van joop. And that means happy birthday dad with your 50th birthday. And he said, please read it in Dutch. I did it. And his dad's name is Marnix. He turns 50 tomorrow, January 16th. And he's on the list. Sir Economic hitman Tomball, Texas. $50 and one penny. Gary Mao, Woodland Hills, California, California, 50. These are all the 50s. Dame Patricia Worthington, Miami, Florida. Brandon Savoy, Port Orchard, Washington. Kevin Dills, Huntersville, North Carolina. These names are always on our donation list. Really appreciate.

[A]

Yeah, you're running a series of them. They're all we know, every one of them.

[B]

Yes. And thank you so. We love you so much for supporting us. And there's room for more people. There is room for more people to support us. Go read the newsletter. Kevin Dills, Huntersville, North Carolina. Diane Schwanebeck, Johnsburg, Illinois. Chris Lewinto, Sherwood Park, Alberta. Philip Ballou, Louisville, Kentucky. Easy Landscapes, North Stonington, Connecticut. Stuart Fawcett, Liverpool, oh, the Merseyside, Great Britain. Checking in. Brian Bellon. $50 and he says with this I'm a little over the 1k mark. Please knight me, Sir Brian of Ashbury. No jingles. He does have a request for Guinness and blue cheese burgers. He says, people, I'm not a. I don't like blue cheese on my burgers. For some reason, this doesn't sou leg Blue cheeseman on the burgers. He says, please support the greatest podcast in the universe. Zach Matthews, Caldwell, Idaho Magin Sanchez, Magin Maguin Sanchez from Loma Linda, California. SFW funded Hulanar in Arnhem, the Netherlands. And he sent me a note about the new Valve Steam machine. You know, the gaming console?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's all built on linux and no AI. No mention of AI anywhere. Good. Well, go play those games. $50 from someone on strike. No note. And Sir Alan Bean, Beaverton, Oregon winds up our $50 donors. And we thank of course, everybody who came in on under $50. We do not read them for reasons of anonymity.

[A]

Is Baron. We'll give Alan Bean Baronel.

[B]

Oh, he's Baron Baronell. Alan Beaton, Wow. Put it in your. In your note, man. Let us know.

[A]

He's another guy who's. Wait, that comes in as a check so the bank won't do it.

[B]

What?

[A]

He's another guy has been donating. He donated when we first asked for donations.

[B]

Was he one of the first ones?

[A]

He was one of the first. He lived in Oakland and he never showed up to any meetups. He lived in Oakland and he sent. It was $150 check. And he says, I'll send you one of these every month for as long as you stay good. As long as the show is good.

[B]

Well, there you go.

[A]

He's been giving us $50 a month for, I don't know, 16 years.

[B]

Well, if it was from show one, then it was longer.

[A]

No, it wasn't from show one. It was when we first asked for money.

[B]

Well, we, we started asking for money sooner than two years in. Well, knowing you from for sure.

[A]

Well, somebody's got to do it. But the. But immediately he sent in a check for 50 bucks and said, I'll keep sending these checks in as long as the show stays. Great.

[B]

Now are they handwritten checks or bank checks? Yes.

[A]

Yeah, they're handwritten checks.

[B]

So it's not like he's just dead and it's just on an automatic renewal.

[A]

No, no. They so checks it with a signature on him. It could be AI, I don't know, maybe no.

[B]

Auto pen. Auto pen.

[A]

He's doing fine.

[B]

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[A]

We got three Night Blade. There it is.

[B]

Eric Jan Hooven. Troll Mech Gooey. I gotta read his note in a minute. And Brian Bellen, all of you hop up on the podium here. All three of you, thanks to your support the Noah Jenna show in the amount of $1,000,000 or more, you now are becoming knights of the Norwegian Roundtable. I am proud to pronounce the KV as Sir Eric Knight of the Big Beautiful Bahia, Sir Eugene of the Tulip Stems, and Sir Brian of Ashbury. For you gentlemen. We have hookers and blow Rent boys and Chardonnay, Caipirinha and coconut flakes. Guinness and blue cheese burgers. We've got redheads and rye's beers and blunts. We've got cowgirls and coffin varnish. We got ginger ale and gerbils. And of course, always here at the round table, mutton and mead for all three of you. Go to noagendarings.com and take a look at that handsome signet ring that you can now send away for with your. So just give us our. Give your. Give us your ring size and an address to send it to. And it comes with a certificate of authenticity and of course some wax to seal your important correspondence with. This is from Troll Mech Guy. He was a layaway knight, so already knighted him. And he realizes that he made his 33rd $33.33 PayPal donation and by his accounts he's a knight. He found the show through Megyn Kelly. I'm from New Zealand, Michigan, near Holland, Michigan, which is the Little Netherlands of the Great Lakes. So please knight me. Sir Eugene of the Tulip Stems. You have been knighted as such at the roundtable. He wants bangers and mash and a side of Balkan bray to drink. A Miller Light and a shot of Fireball. Can we get that over there for him? Okay, it's taken care of. Thank you very much. And he says we need a Scott jingle. Well, if anyone comes up with them, we'll be happy to use it. No agenda donations.com to become a knight, to become any. Anything on the peerage ladder. And we just appreciate all the.

[A]

Meetups.

[B]

Yes, the meetups continue. This is where you can meet children from other lands. And you need to, from time to time, get out of the house, go say hi to some people who will be in the same frame of mind as you are. These are the no agenda meetups. No agenda. Producers meet everywhere around the world. Including today at Charlotte's Thirsty 3rd Thursday Monthly Meetup 7 o' clock at Ed's Tavern in Charlotte, NC. On Saturday, the Fort Wayne Club 33. January 2026. Kick off the New year. Kick the new year off. NA style will be starting at 1 o'.

[A]

Clock.

[B]

And that is at Chigs in Pit Barbecue and Brew in Fort Wayne, Indiana. And on Sunday, our next show day. The get Sir Dre of the empty PayPal and broken brain out of the house meetup. This is in the Netherlands. 4pm at Woke Winter time Gitmo Lowlands in the Heeren from Berkendal. Those are. Those guys always have a good party. There's a lot of people that show up and they will send us a meet up report. I'm looking forward to it. Coming up on the 27th. 22nd, Sao Paulo, Brazil. Please send us a meetup report from Brazil. The 23rd, Fort Dodge, Iowa. 25th Indianapolis 29th Alfredo, Georgia. 31st. Oakland, California and the 31st as well. Wilmington, California. There are many more meetups for you to go and visit anywhere around the world. Hey, if it's not in your country, country not in your town, no problem. You can set one up yourself. Go to noagendameetups.com to learn more about it. No agenda meetups. They are connection that gives you protection. These people will be your first responders in emergency. Go to noagendameetups.com fun, easy and always a party.

[C]

Triggered on Hell Aim.

[B]

You want to be where everybody feels the same. Before we get to John's tip of the day and our end of show mixes, which are not all AI. I warn you in advance of some stuff you'll probably actually like. We always like to select the end of show ISO in this portion of the segment. I have three, you have two. You want to go first?

[A]

No, because I like to bump mine.

[B]

Okay, here's number one.

[A]

Like, I genuinely think it's hilarious.

[B]

I don't even like that one. We try this one. You guys have had a most magnificent season. Season. Season. This is. This is. This is the one.

[C]

These two guys are the best. Period.

[B]

Come on.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Okay. What?

[A]

You got it?

[B]

You're not even gonna play bump in mine? All right, well, we move straight on to our last segment. John's tip of the day. And sometimes adult.

[A]

All right. This website people should have on their list of websites they go to routinely. It's called SNAP Files.

[B]

Snap Files.

[A]

Yeah, Snap Files. This is a listing of the current. The current snap files.com the current freeware and shareware products that are out there. The latest versions.

[B]

Haven't you done this one before?

[A]

No, I don't think so. I've done other stuff similar, but not this one. This is different.

[B]

All right.

[A]

This basically keeps up with stuff. So you get. For example, you have. This is a different list than it was last time I looked because it keeps changing daily. You have like the latest VLN and some of these other products that you should be using for. And this. This products you never think of using. It's just a good website to get. They have a freeware pick. These are software systems that are free. You don't have to pay money.

[B]

Free. Like A.I. free.

[A]

Free. Well, no. A.I. is a nick negative. Free.

[B]

Yeah. Well, what does it have better here? What does it have on it? Freeware. Oh, shareware. So they still list shareware? That's still a thing.

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Yeah, it is.

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Yeah. This site looks. Looks like it's from 1987.

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Yeah, well, that's because it's probably made with shareware. Nobody said shareware's modern.

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Shareware. That was a. That was great, wasn't it? Shareware. Share. What do they have under shareware? We have anti spam tools. Well, they still have Outlook add ons. Really?

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Yeah. Hey, it's for the real computer enthusiasts.

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And there's freeware. Oh, man. My favorite freeware. Open source, formerly known as freeware. Wow. Will this load on Windows or do you need Windows 3.1 to use?

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No, it loads fine.

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Okay, there it is. Your tip of the day. Find them [e-mail] tipoftheday.net. And sometimes Adam, created by Dana Burnetti. If you stay tuned to the no agenda stream, noagendastream.com you will hear up next on the stream. Who are these broadcasters? I've not heard this, but have I heard this podcast?

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Who are these podcasters?

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No, who are these broadcasters?

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I think it's the same guys.

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Oh, yeah, we didn't do anything on the Glo Gold. You know, it's interesting to note that we've stopped covering the award shows completely. On this show, we used to mock them.

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Well, because they had shills with a podcast award and Snoop Dogg awarded it. And as far as I'm concerned, if Joe Rogan isn't nominated as bogus, I agree with that.

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Of course, it's totally bogus.

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Newsworthy?

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Perhaps. But it could never happen here. Then, in the summer of 1964, widespread rioting and looting suddenly broke out. In Harlem, in Rochester, in Newark, in Jersey City, in Philadelphia, Cleveland and Chicago, all within a few days of each other. It was as though an unseen hand had given the signal. Then, on August 18, 1965, guns replaced nightsticks in the hands of law enforcement officers as the Watts area of Los Angeles literally burst into a cauldron of insurrection. Thousands of rioters roamed the streets both night and day, smashing and looting and setting the torch to over 50 square miles of the city. Hidden snipers held police and firefighters at bay as fires raged unabated. At least 35Americans died in the violence and gunfire. The sheer magnitude of this monstrous madness strained the abilities of the civil authorities, and the California National Guard was sent to Watts with orders to quell the violence. Violence with brute force if necessary. The spectacle of American soldiers shooting it out with American civilians was even more shocking than the rioting itself. The nation was stunned and horrified. No smoke has done.

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