1835 - "Greenland Gambit"

Summary

No Agenda Show – Episode 1835: “Greenland Gambit”

Hosts: Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak
Date: January 18, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Adam and John take on the unfolding "Greenland Gambit"—the Trump administration’s push to annex Greenland—as the centerpiece of their signature media deconstruction. Against the backdrop of the upcoming World Economic Forum at Davos and shifting global alliances, they analyze the motivations, propaganda, and maneuverings of key players, while exploring the potential repercussions for NATO, Europe, and North America. The show also delves into AI disinformation fears, the evolution of Canadian trade policy, Alberta separatism, public displays of distress in the U.S., and the latest in the news media’s narrative shaping.

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Table of Contents

• Davos & The WEF Week Anticipation
• Trump’s Greenland Gambit & Congressional Pushback
• Logan Act Accusations & Congressional Foreign Policy
• Media Narratives: Security, Tariffs, and NATO
• Greenland’s History, European Concerns & Canada’s Role
• AI Disinformation and the Global Risk Report
• Canada, China, and Alberta Separatism
• Public Crying Trend in Washington, D.C.
• AI Censorship, Deepfakes & the Amelia Phenomenon
• Iran & Venezuela: Geopolitics and Media Manipulation
• Veteran Segment: Listener Corrections & Internal Show Dynamics
• Notable Quotes

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Davos & The WEF Week Anticipation

Main points:

• Adam is excited for “WEF Week,” calling it his “beat” and likening it to the Super Bowl of globalism.
• Discussion about the new leadership at WEF following Klaus Schwab’s departure—Sadia Zahid as managing director, with Larry Fink of BlackRock as co-chair.
• The annual WEF Global Risks Report flags geoeconomic confrontation, mis/disinformation, polarization, and environmental risks—AI-related concerns have notably risen ([05:02]).

Notable moment:

“All I know is I’ve got Davos fever. This is it, the Super Bowl. Davos fever. WEF week is coming.”
—Adam ([00:41])

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Trump’s Greenland Gambit & Congressional Pushback

Main points:

• Trump openly raises the prospect of annexing Greenland for U.S. national security, floating tariffs on non-cooperating countries.
• Bipartisan congressional delegation visits Denmark/Greenland to “lower the temperature,” but most Americans oppose annexation.
• Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) stresses Greenland as an ally, not an asset; threatens Congressional checks on Trump’s ambitions ([10:00]).
• Trump’s defense invokes U.S. military bases, strategic interests in the Arctic, and a desire to avoid repeating past European blunders (e.g., Nord Stream 2) ([21:00]).

Notable quotes:

“Greenland needs to be viewed as our ally, not as an asset. When you ask the American people whether or not they think it is a good idea for the United States to acquire Greenland, the vast majority—some 75%—will say, we do not think that that is a good idea.”
—Sen. Murkowski ([10:31])

“As everybody knows… everything is for sale at the right price!”
—Adam ([19:10])

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Logan Act Accusations & Congressional Foreign Policy

Main points:

• John argues the congressional trip is a Logan Act violation: only the executive can negotiate foreign affairs.
• Adam counter-questions whether negotiations are actually taking place; John insists even the optics are problematic ([11:20]).
• Discussion delves into the history of the Logan Act and inconsistent media outrage depending on political actors ([13:03]).

Notable exchange:

“This is a violation of the Logan Act. This is non-representatives of the U.S. government… This is a clear violation. They should all be indicted.”
—John ([11:50])

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Media Narratives: Security, Tariffs, and NATO

Main points:

• Media highlights increasing European/NATO alarm as Trump threatens tariffs to force a Greenland deal.
• EU and France deploy token troops; Macron ties Greenland to wider Russian deterrence, referencing “no intimidation or threats.”
• Multiple reports describe Greenland as “mineral rich”—Adam and John mock the narrative and question its accuracy ([15:10], [16:41], [19:08]).

Notable quote:

“It always ends with ‘it’s minerals, it’s gold, it’s oil’—all the things it’s not!”
—Adam ([15:04])

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Greenland’s History, European Concerns & Canada’s Role

Main points:

• Hosts delve into Denmark’s colonial abuses—forced sterilizations in Greenland up until 1992.
• EU’s opposition to U.S. annexation is pegged, in part, to control of trans-Atlantic trade and shipping lanes, as well as concerns about Canada's political trajectory ([30:06]).
• Greenlandic resistance cited, but John and Adam question who truly benefits from continued Danish sovereignty.

“Denmark has a terrible history with Greenlanders—forced sterilizations up until the 80s or the 90s... Denmark, this ran up until 1992!”
—Adam ([33:20])

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AI Disinformation and the Global Risk Report

Main points:

• WEF’s 2026 Global Risk Report spotlights AI-fueled mis- and disinformation among top near-term threats.
• Adam and John deride media panic over “asymmetric information” and buzzword-laden rhetoric from officials and tech “Silicon Valley a-holes.”
• AI censorship and narrative control discussed, particularly around Grok and Gemini/ChatGPT (see later section).

“They seem to be very worried about mis and disinformation from AI technologies.”
—Sadia Zahid, WEF ([05:02])

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Canada, China, and Alberta Separatism

Main points:

• Canadian PM Mark Carney announces tariff relief on Chinese EVs (limited real effect), seeking to appease both farmers and eastern auto workers.
• Adam and John highlight China’s limited economic leverage over Canada, with over 75% of Canadian exports going to the US ([38:58]).
• Alberta independence movement heats up—Adam plays a Global News report about massive turnout for a separatist petition; speculation swirls about Trump’s real designs on Canada and North America ([41:43], [43:50]).
• Producer-provided scenario: U.S. would back Alberta independence, send troops for “order,” and use the chaos as pretext for greater regional control ([43:50]-[46:02]).

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Public Crying Trend in Washington, D.C.

Main points:

• Hosts discuss a trend—tracked over six years on Reddit—of young adults sharing their favorite public places to cry in D.C. (e.g., Lincoln Memorial, Watergate steps, Union Station).
• John and Adam link this phenomenon to urban malaise (“self-induced struggle sessions”), mental health, and identity-driven performativity on social media ([64:41]).
• Speculate that it’s symptomatic of broader political/cultural demoralization.

Notable moment:

“It’s like a self-induced struggle session on social media—which is a very lefty communist thing…”
—Adam ([66:34])

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AI Censorship, Deepfakes & the Amelia Phenomenon

Main points:

• Recent uproar over Elon Musk’s Grok AI and its ability to create deepfake images; countries ban the app after explicit images circulate.
• Adam and John argue “safety” and “abuse” narratives are being weaponized by the establishment to target Musk and restrict emerging AI platforms ([82:45]-[87:42]).
• AI cannot provide “positive” profiles of certain people (e.g., Nick Fuentes), reflecting political bias in AI training data ([74:43]).
• The hosts discuss the viral “Amelia” AI avatar in Britain, meant as an anti-far-right campaign but turned into a right-wing meme—demonstrating memetic warfare and the establishment’s loss of narrative control ([97:18]-[104:10]).

“If you don’t want your picture manipulated… don’t post your pictures. That is the answer.”
—Adam ([91:24])

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Iran & Venezuela: Geopolitics and Media Manipulation

Main points:

• Iran: John Bolton criticizes Trump for not seizing the “opportunity” to intervene during Iranian unrest. Adam and John mock the interventionist narrative, note regime-change playbooks, and highlight potential MI6 involvement behind opposition movements ([147:13]-[151:23]).
• Venezuela: Robust coverage of U.S. strategy—CIA Director Ratcliffe holds historic talks with Venezuelan leadership; U.S. economic pressures at work; discussion on how awards like the Nobel Prize may signal regime-change narratives ([158:06]-[164:50]).
• The hosts stress how special interests, regime-change operators, and old alliances (e.g., MI6) frame foreign affairs for their ends.

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Veteran Segment: Listener Corrections & Internal Show Dynamics

Main points:

• Adam and John address listener feedback regarding content “recycling” from Adam’s other podcasts (notably, “We Get to Do This”).
• Honest, comedic airing of their creative tensions and running jokes about show structure, credit, and audience preferences ([126:19]-[133:37]).
• Reflective discussion on how the show’s dynamic would change if they were in the same studio—and how podcasting practices have evolved over nearly two decades.

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Notable Quotes

• On Davos/Globalism:
  “You know they kicked out Klaus Schwab? He’s gone. Which is kind of sad, because he set the tone and it made you feel groovy.” —Adam ([04:06])

• On Congressional Foreign Policy:
  “This is a violation of the Logan Act… They should be all thrown in jail.” —John ([11:50])

• On Strategic Assets:
  “I always love how they throw in minerals… all the things it’s not.” —Adam ([15:04])

• On Disinformation & AI:
  “They seem to be very worried about mis and disinformation from AI technologies.” —WEF ([05:02])

• On Memetic Warfare:
  “Back to Davos—they are deathly afraid of what is now possible with AI… mnemonic warfare. They’re losing mnemonic warfare.” —Adam ([104:05])

• On Special Relationships:
  “When do we start with that ‘special relationship’ nonsense? When did that start? …We were captured.” —Adam ([167:00])

• On the show’s value:
  “We are creators of value. We are convinced… that what we do has value.” —Adam ([109:00])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Davos & WEF Report: [00:41] – [08:08]
• Greenland Gambit + Congress: [08:08] – [14:41]
• Logan Act Discussion: [11:20] – [13:43]
• Tariffs, NATO, EU Reaction: [15:04] – [22:19], [16:41]
• Canada/Greenland/Shipping: [30:06], [41:43] – [46:02]
• Alberta Independence Scenario: [43:50] – [46:02]
• Public Crying and D.C. Malaise: [63:35] – [69:45]
• AI Censorship, Deepfakes: [80:09] – [98:11]
• The Amelia Phenomenon in UK: [97:18] – [104:48]
• Bolton on Iran & Intervention: [147:06] – [151:23]
• Venezuela, Special Ops: [158:06] – [165:01]
• Meta Show Reflection: [126:19] – [133:37]

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Tone & Style

• Sarcastic, irreverent, and improvisational, often punctuated by comedic asides (“Nobody wants your sled, give me your sled, it’s all over!” — Adam, [53:33]).
• Critical of mainstream and alternative media establishments, with frequent lampooning of jargon and buzzwords (“asymmetric information,” “D.E.I. hire,” “bellicose rhetoric”).
• Deep skepticism about state/media actors, heavy emphasis on geopolitical history and inside baseball.

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This summary captures the rich, discursive journey of Episode 1835—complete with cynicism, historical callbacks, and a relentless pursuit of what's really going on behind the headlines.

Transcript

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Every on your podcast, always on your pod. How'd you. That was great. Yeah, we agree. Oh yeah, I totally agree.

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Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.

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It's Sunday, January 18, 2026. Is your award winning Gibbonation Media assassination episode 1835.

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This is no Agenda.

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It's Wes week and we're broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill country here in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody.

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I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley, where the plot thickens, I'm John C. Dvor.

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Oh man. What. What plot could that be?

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There's so many I don't know that you would know.

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All I know is I've got Davos fever. This is it, the Super Bowl. Davos fever. Wef week is coming. I'm always excited about Davos.

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Yeah, he'll be talking on the 21st and he's going to say nothing.

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Oh, he's going to say lots of stuff. He. First of all, he's going to take their bicycles away.

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I think that's, well, that's possible. I don't think they use bicycles in Davos.

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Yeah, well, we'll see. If he says now, obviously he's going to say something because his mouth will be moving and words will be coming out and he'll. I remember the last time he spoke at Davos, he said, globalism is not the way, Nationalism is the way. That was kind of a, that was a statement back in the day.

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I think he's just going to talk about Greenland.

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Nah, we'll see. We'll see. He's taken the full crew, so.

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Yeah, they all want to go skiing.

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You are always so upbeat about what's happening.

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What's his name, your buddy, the second, the, the ak. He's a big skier.

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Of course he is. I can, I'll bet he looks good on the slopes too, you know, I mean he's got, he probably, he tans real quick, you know, one of those guys like, hey boys, time for some eff Press ski. Are you ready? I, you know, I think the skiing actually isn't exactly right in the Village. I think they have to get on a bus to go skiing. In Davos, I don't think you walk out.

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It's not like I've known at least two people that have been to Davos and the whole thing's about the skiing, right?

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But, but is it like Aspen where you walk right out?

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No, no, it's not like, no, it's not like you don't step out of your, out of Your hotel and jump on a slope? No.

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Well, just so you know, it's my beat. I'm excited. I love it when CNBC is on the scene and they're sitting there out on the cold. For what reason, I'll never understand. It's like, let's make sure everybody knows we're here in Davos and on a belt. I know why. Okay.

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Skiing.

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No, why do they have. Their set is always outside?

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Yeah. So they can get used to the skiing temperatures. I don't know. It's idiotic, right?

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I love it. And as always, someone says something dumb like Bill Gates always says something stupid. No, I find it to be interesting because they're all kind of loosened up. You know, you're right. They're all like, oh, it's great here. You know, we gotta sit through this stupid conference, but then we'll go skiing and at night. Well, we know what happens there. We know. We haven't gotten a report yet. No one, no mainstream media has done a report on the prostitutes of Davos. Usually they do that.

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I don't remember. Remember too many reports on the prostitutes. Yes, I know about them. They ship them in. Because there's not. There's no prostitutes in Davos. Well, because who. What the hell are they going to do there?

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Yeah, exactly. Well, here's a. He's a very. I'm following Davos Radio, which for some reason is on YouTube, but okay, Davos Radio. And they have a little set. And this is the. This is very short, just an intro. This is the. So you know, they kicked out Klaus Schwab. He's gone. Which is kind of. Kind of sad because he set the tone and it made you feel groovy.

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Yeah. You know who took over, right?

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Well, I know who the managing director is. Who took over.

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Larry Fink of Blackrock.

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Well, Larry Fink, so he's part of it, but he's not. He's not.

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He's the co. Chair.

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Yes, but he's not the manager.

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By the way, I'm getting a lot of slap back.

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You are.

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Can you turn your speakers down?

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I don't think that's me. Let me see.

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I'm hearing myself. Hey. Hi, John.

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You're hearing yourself. Well, maybe. Well, if you turn your speakers down, you won't hear yourself through the speakers.

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Well, then I won't hear anything.

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Well, you could always consider headphones.

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Well, no, I'd be hearing it. Why would that make a difference? I'd still hear myself.

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Well, no one's hearing it double here. It sounds Good.

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Okay, well, I don't.

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I'm trying to. I. Nothing's. I'm sorry, I didn't change anything. Nothing's changed.

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There you go.

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So here is the forum managing director Sadia Zahid, who's young woman, she looks like she's got what it takes to entertain a bunch of boring people. And they of course release their global risk report because that's what it's all about. And here is her talking about the headlines of what's in the global risk report. What is the main headline this year? So we find that of course in the very short term, and this is probably no surprise to our audience, but in the very short term, geoeconomic confrontation and state based armed conflict are the two things that readers are extremely worried about in 2026. And then you look two years out and geo economic confrontation actually stays at the very top. But it's followed closely by MIS and disinformation and then polarization. And then in the longer term, in that 10 year outlook, that is where the environmental risks are. Again at the very top. Extreme weather, biodiversity loss and critical changes to earth systems. But following pretty closely behind is again mis and disinformation. And one of the largest rises which is around the potential adverse outcomes of AI technologies. They seem to be very worried about mis and disinformation from AI technologies. Oh wow. That is. That is me. I don't know why that happened. I know what happened. I know what's going on. I took my hearing aids out and so I have the headphones cranked up. You're probably hearing yourself through my headphones.

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Oh, why'd you take the hearing aids out?

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Well, it doesn't work very well with headphones. Oh yeah, and I tried, actually.

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Why don't you work on open air?

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How would that be any better?

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I can't hear with the hearing aids.

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No, no, no. I've been accustomed to this for 45 years. There's no way I can use open air like I'm on AM radio in the 50s. No, this is WAVC coming to you all ships and sea. I don't need headphones. No, I don't think so. I'm a modern radio guy.

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Modern radio guy. Cans.

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Cans, man.

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Why? She used to watch the apple buds. Well, like the.

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Unfortunately. So, you know, there's this thing called auracast which you. So you can broad. I think we talked about. You can broadcast it to the hearing aids.

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Yes, that's right.

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And it works really well. I got the little adapter, plugged it into my rodecaster but then my voice, just because of all the processing, is about, you know, three. Yeah. I'd say like 30 milliseconds behind.

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Oh. Oh, really?

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Yeah. Yes. So what?

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They can't. They can't. What? Wow.

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So if you're listening to tv, that's no good? Well, no, if you're listening to TV or something, it's great because you won't see that difference with people's mouths moving. But when you're speaking as coming back 3/10 of a second later.

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Yeah, it's just enough.

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Then you start to talk it like this. Anyway, I will be reporting on everything from the wef. It's WEF Week. WEF Week. And I'm excited and I think something will come out of this. Maybe Trump is just going to negotiate the terms of surrender.

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I doubt it.

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You're so cynical. I have great hope in terms of surrender.

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What? To who?

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To us. Just surrender. Give us Greenland. Shut up. Go away. We're in charge. Canada, you're the next. Ukraine. I think maybe something like that.

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You've been gone back to smoking dope.

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No, no.

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What's he going to say? He's not going to do anything like that.

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Okay, we understand what your opinion is, I think.

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Oh, my. What is my opinion?

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He's going to say nothing. You said it at the beginning.

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Yeah. He's going to say. Well, he's going to talk about Greenland a lot.

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Okay. Well, I am excited. I think Greenland is fabulous. I love the step up that we've done. I think it's great.

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I'd like to know. Hey, I have a clip.

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Okay.

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I'd like to ask you a question about this.

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All right.

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This is the Greenland clip. This is Murkowski. Yeah.

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Can I guess the question or should I ask the question after the clip?

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I would play the clip and then I want you to guess. You will guess it. This is what's bothersome. That's why the fact that you brought it up. You know, it's a question.

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I already know because I have a similar clip. President Trump stepped up his threats about taking over Greenland today, suggesting that he may place tariffs on countries that don't support US control of the territory. Mr. Trump made the comments during an.

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Event at the White House today where.

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He repeated his claims claim that the US Needs Greenland for national security reasons.

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It comes as a bipartisan delegation of.

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US Lawmakers were in Copenhagen today. They met with the leaders of Denmark and Greenland in an effort to, as they put it, lower the temperature. Alaska Republican Lisa Murkowski told reporters the majority of Americans disagree with President Trump. Greenland needs to be viewed as our ally, not as an asset. When you ask the American people whether or not they think it is a good idea for the United States to.

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Acquire Greenland, the vast majority, some 75%.

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Will say, we do not think that that is a good idea. Murkowski also told reporters there are, quote, tools at our disposal for Congress to rein in President Trump's ambitions towards Greenland, though he himself has said that anything less than US Control is unacceptable. Okay, well, you didn't have exactly the same clip as I had. My. My clip, which is a little short. And I'll play in a moment. The question I would have asked is, why are our representatives going to Greenland? Because that was the context of this interview. They're going on a trip or they're going to Denmark, I think, and then to Greenland. They're leaving D.C. to go and. And visit. That would be my question.

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No, it's not. You missed it. Isn't this a violation of the Logan Act? They made a big fuss about everything that was going on with Flynn and everybody else about the Logan Act. The Logan Act. This is a violation of the Logan Act. This is non. Representatives of the U.S. government. They're not representing the Trump administration. They're not doing foreign affairs stuff. This is the Logan act violation. They should be all thrown in jail.

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What is the. You might have to help us again with exactly.

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The Logan act was passed in the late 1700s, and it says if you're not represent. If you're not a representative of this government, you cannot. You cannot do negotiations with foreign countries on your own as a. As a independent person or group or citizen.

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Are they doing negotiations? I mean, I think the.

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What do they think they're doing? They're over there. What are they doing? They're over in Denmark talking. To who? What? The public. They're going around. Hey, buddy, what do you think about this?

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No, they're having brown cheese. They're having fun doing that.

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They're doing that, too, but they're drinking some of them. This is a clear violation of the Logan Act. This is a clear violation of the Logan act. And they should be. They should all be indicted.

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They should be arrested and then pulled back in in irons. We should bring them back.

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It's about time. No, no. Well, maybe James Comer can do something about it.

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Well, here's James Comer. Oh, no. I'm sorry. Comer. I have coons. Wait a minute. Let me just see. The Logan Act.

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They made a big. The Democrats make a big fuss about the Logan Act.

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Oh, you mean the news media doesn't make a fuss of it? No one makes a fuss of it when it's about Trump or surprise. Okay. The Logan act, which was a response. This is interesting. I didn't know it was a response to an effort by a Philadelphia Quaker named George Logan to try and negotiate directly with the French government.

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Yeah.

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Okay, so the law criminalizes the negotiation of a dispute between the United States and a foreign government by an unauthorized American citizen. Okay, so unauthorized, I presume, would mean that you have to be authorized by the president.

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Yeah, you have to be authorized by the president or Secretary of State.

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Well, we should throw her in jail along with Senator Coons who was there.

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And part of the point of this trip is to have a bipartisan group.

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Of members of Congress. Listen, my point is, why are members of Congress who represent states doing this?

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My point, too. This is a violation of the Logan Act.

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It's a violation of their job description.

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Listen respectfully to our friends, our trusted allies and partners here in Denmark and.

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From Greenland, and to go back to the United States and share those perspectives so that we can lower the temperature. When you ask the American people whether or not they think it is a good idea for the United States to acquire Greenland, the vast majority will say, we do not think that that is a good idea. Senator from Alaska does not think it is a good idea.

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Well, good for you, lady, stepping on the clip.

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Hold on.

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This meeting comes as President Trump said.

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At an event in D.C. today that he was considering using tariffs to pressure.

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Countries to accept the US Take over.

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The semi autonomous Danish territory. Trump argues Greenland is vital to US Security because of its location and supply of minerals. He has not ruled out the use.

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Of force to take it. European nations.

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I always. I always love how they throw in minerals. It's minerals, it's gold, it's oil, all the things it's not. Trump argues Greenland is tight.

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Right, Exactly.

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And I don't think I've heard Trump say specifically, oh, it's minerals, as this.

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Report, no, you can't get those minerals out of there unless you bomb the place and melt the ice.

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It's too cold. Trump argues Greenland is vital to US Security because of its location and supply of minerals. He has not ruled out the use.

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Of force to take it.

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European nations this week sent small numbers of military personnel to the island at the request of Denmark, a NATO ally. A NATO ally. So the Europeans are all in a tizzy because of the. Of the tariffs and the President did promise. He said, hey, you know, we can do this the easy way or the hard way. And I believe this. 10%. Ratcheting to 25 to. I guess the sky is the limit is part of the hard way. Here's a report from our European friends.

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Summoned to Brussels to discuss.

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And I'm always surprised that Euro News keeps using an African guy to do their voiceovers. I'm just baffled by it.

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Summoned to Brussels to discuss an escalating. So the NHK news, when they do their weather report, the NHK out of Japan, out of Tokyo, they use a black guy as the weatherman.

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Is this a dei?

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Black guys are even in Japan.

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Astride should tell us. Summoned to Brussels to discuss an escalating crisis. EU ambassadors will have an emergency meeting Sunday.

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They'll look for a united response to.

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Donald Trump's threat to impose escalating tariffs on eight European countries until the purchase of Greenland is completed. 10% at the beginning of February and then 25 by summer. A response from European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen was swift on social media. Tariffs would undermine transatlantic relations and risk.

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A dangerous downward spiral.

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Will remain united, coordinated and committed to upholding its sovereignty. President Macron had only just sent a symbolic detachment of French troops to conduct exercises with Danish soldiers charged with defending Greenland and was quick to link the situation to wider European security concerns. No intimidation nor threats will influence us, neither in Ukraine, nor in Greenland, nor anywhere else in the world where we are confronted with such situations. Tariff threats are unacceptable and have no place in this context. Unacceptable, I tell you. Well, they have. No. All they have is unacceptable. This is not right. This is not how you're supposed to deal with us. I didn't clip her. But.

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But everybody knows that the United States has had bases in Greenland since World War II.

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Yes.

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So we're there already.

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Yes.

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Up in the top part.

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Yes.

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Well, they're making it sound like we're invading the place. We've already been there.

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Well, because the president said he alluded as a troll, like, well, you know, I could just go there and take it by force. You know, that's.

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Yeah, he's not going to do that.

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No, of course not. But that's one day. One day the rest of the political landscape will figure out his algo and stop responding that way. But we did get our skis.

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Well, that's wishful thinking.

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You're right.

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Are you crazy? They're never going to figure. It's so easy to figure out. But they know.

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So our skier. We need a name. Scott, the shusher Besant. Scott to shusher.

[B]

I like shusher.

[A]

Shusher. Yeah. So Scott was on with Manhands Welker this morning. And of course, the discussion turned to Greenland.

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President Trump threatening to impose steep tariffs against some of America's closest European and NATO allies. The leaders of Denmark and Greenland say.

[A]

Bluntly, Greenland is not for sale.

[B]

What makes President Trump think it is?

[A]

Kristen, if we look for you. Wait, wait. The first answer should have been, as everybody knows this, everything is for sale. Is this not something we always say in business? Everything is for sale at the right price?

[B]

I wonder why he didn't say that.

[A]

Yeah, he's green. He's green. He's still green around the gills.

[B]

What makes President Trump think it is?

[A]

Kristen, if we look for years, for. For over a century, American presidents have wanted to acquire Greenland. And what we can see is the Greenland is the essential to the US national security. We're building the Golden Dome, the missile system. And look, President Trump is looking, is being strategic. He's looking beyond this year, he's looking beyond next year to what could happen for a battle in the Arctic. We are not going to outsource our national security. We are not going to outsource our hemispheric security to other countries. In Trump 1.0, President Trump told the Europeans, do not. Do not build Nord Stream 2. Do not rely on Russian oil. And guess what, Kristen? Guess what Is funding Russia's efforts against Ukraine? European purchases of Russian oil. So America has to be in control here. I like the addition of the Golden Dome as another, because, A, it's not true, probably B, yeah, Golden Dome, whatever. It does make all the military industrial complex companies go, oh, hold on a second. I got to talk to my counterparts in Brussels about this because, you know, that's how it works. Hey, let's go out to dinner.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Want some caviar? I gotta talk about Greenland with you because we could build some fabulous stuff for the Golden Dome. You'll benefit. You'll benefit. But the fight for the Arctic, it's real, man.

[B]

Is this a negotiating tactic, Mr. Secretary.

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Or is President Trump serious about annexing Greenland? President Trump strongly believes that we cannot outsource our security because, Kristen, let me tell you what will happen. And it might not be next year, might not be in five years. But down the road, this fight for the Arctic, Israel, we would keep our NATO. Did he say Israel? Sounded like he said Israel. But down the road, this fight for the Arctic, Israel, we would keep our NATO. The Mossad is our Israeli.

[B]

The Baby is real.

[A]

Bibi's making him do it. It's clear down the road. This fight for the Arctic is real. We would keep our NATO code. They are NATO guarantees. And if there were an attack on Greenland from Russia, from some other, other area, we would get dragged in. So better now, peace through strength. Make it part of the United States, and there will not be a conflict, because the United States, right now, we are the hottest country in the world. We are the strongest country in the world. Europeans project weakness. Us project strength. Do you think that he comes down the slope like, hey, I'm Scott Besson, Treasury Secretary of the hottest country in the world. What's your name, son? Okay, this is good. There's only two more, but I just. I just love. I am a big Besant fan. I can't help myself. Senior Democrats say there are no pressing.

[B]

Threats on Greenland security from Russia or China.

[A]

The Danish foreign minister says there hasn't.

[B]

Been a Chinese warship in Greenland for a decade.

[A]

What evidence do you have that this is a pressing threat? There is no evidence. First person. We have asymmetric information. And again, President Trump. Wow. What does that mean? Well, first of all, we have asymmetric information. I'm just going to use that.

[B]

I think of this. That is a kind of a hybrid term that, again, as we've both pointed out, that this administration is filled with these Silicon Valley a holes who are coming up with these, you know, these.

[A]

Terms.

[B]

New creative ways of saying nothing. I like it. And I think that's one of them.

[A]

I think it's something you can say if you have a disagreement with your spouse. Listen, honey, we have asymmetric information here. Okay? Everybody try that out. Let me know how it goes.

[B]

There hasn't been a Chinese warship in Greenland for a decade.

[A]

What evidence do you have that this is a pressing threat? Well, first of all, Kristen, we have asymmetric information. And again, President Trump is being strategic here.

[B]

Hold on a second. Why didn't she stop him in his tracks? What is wrong with her?

[A]

Oh, you're acting like Kristen Welker is smart. She's a D.E.I. hire.

[B]

Somebody should. When somebody says that to you in an interview like that, you stop them right there and ask them to specifically say what they mean. What do you mean by that? What do you mean by asymmetric information?

[A]

It's great.

[B]

What do you mean specifically? What do you mean? You mean you getting lopsided information? Something that's got a bulge that we don't get or the general public doesn't hear is a Different. Different form of information. What do you mean? It makes no sense, that word.

[A]

Well, I hate to disappoint you. She did not say that this is a pressing threat. Well, first of all, Kristen, we have asymmetric information. And again, President Trump is being strategic here. What, what evidence was there that the Russians were going into Crimea? What evidence was it? Well, actually, there was a lot of evidence that the Russians were going to go, wait, wait, he corrects himself. And you can hear him stuttering because you can hear he has an interesting brain and his mouth sometimes goes a little too fast and his brain stops his mouth. And God, no. We had a lot of information, but then he's going to throw Biden under the bus, as he should. What evidence was there that the Russians were going into Crimea? What evidence was it? Well, actually, there was a lot of evidence that the Russians were going to go into Ukraine. Joe Biden said, well, just take a little bit of it. But what we know is that the US That Greenland can only be defended if it is part of the US and it will not need to be defended if it is part of the U.S. the president is trying to avoid a conflict.

[B]

You bring up Crimea. The president, as far as I have.

[A]

Heard, has not taken military force off the table. If the United States were to take.

[B]

Greenland by force, how would that be different than Russia's annexation of Crimea?

[A]

Look, I believe that the Europeans will understand that this is best for Greenland, best for Europe, and best for the.

[B]

United States, so that military action is.

[A]

Still on the table. I haven't spoken with the President on that. And again, I believe that the Europeans will understand that the best outcome is for the US to maintain or receive control of Greenland. Yeah, once we tighten the screws a little bit more, I think they'll start to come around. They will understand. This guy, he's kind of frightening, you know, he's one of those.

[B]

Well, there's a lot of ill logic in his approach. He does a pretty good job of it. He, for example, says that, you know, the, the place needs the US do ownership for protection, when in fact it's as part of NATO, it's protected by Section 5, Article 5, whatever it is, so that you were supposed to protect it anyway. So that's. That's bull crap. There's some, you know, there may be something. We're completely under. I mean, there is, and I'm an idiot for not. I don't know why I didn't clip it. I'm sure it's not on the clip list. About the guy who says there's a flying saucer there. And that's the real reason that we're one.

[A]

What? What?

[B]

Yeah. This was the second half of show clip.

[A]

You really, I mean, you've let the show down by now.

[B]

I know, I feel terrible. You win the show.

[A]

I have not heard this one and I'm upset now.

[B]

Yeah, there's a flying saucer there which is a weather modification saucer that they did the, that is being uncovered as the ice melts and it's huge. It's a monster. It's like the size of Manhattan.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

And it's been revealing itself and now we have to take Iceland so we can go get. Because it's still running and it's still, it's still got people in there monitoring what's going on here.

[A]

Can you imagine?

[B]

It's not a slouch of an old beat up thing. It's been there.

[A]

Well, well, Kristen, you have to understand when the ice melts, and that may.

[B]

Be the asymmetric thing he's talking about.

[A]

We have asymmetric information. Kristen, when the ice melts and the saucer is revealed. We don't want the Russians to get that now do we? Now that's not how the interview ended, unfortunately.

[B]

Okay, let's talk about being strategic. The United States has a base in Greenland.

[A]

I've been talking to lawmakers on Capitol Hill. Why Denmark has given the United States green light to beef up its security.

[B]

As much as is needed in Greenland. Why not take, take that route?

[A]

Why is it necessary to take over and annex all of Greenland, something that 85% of people living in Greenland oppose? Who said that?

[B]

She making this up?

[A]

Yeah, they're doing all kinds of, you know, Eskimo on the, on the ice as, as opposed to man on the street. And you get some dude, he's like, he's wearing a, you know, don't make Greenland great again red hat. I mean this.

[B]

Let's stop for a second with these clips and let me ask you something. Why is anybody objecting to us taking over Greenland?

[A]

Well, when you say anybody, do you mean the people in Greenland by.

[B]

Mean the EU and. Well, I mean the Russians and the Chinese have got nothing to do with this. Only the EU and Denmark and they're not doing anything. This is like it's in our hemisphere. We were reinstituting the Monroe Doctrine, the form of the Donroe Doctrine. And we want Greenland. We've wanted it before and they just want to hold on to it for dear life. For what purpose?

[A]

Okay, I'm just guessing, but my thoughts are twofold. And I do want to play this. Finish this clip twofold. One is the Europeans still want to get illegal or sanctioned oil, and it comes through the GI UK gap, and the less people know about that, the better. And the second one, I think it has everything to do with Canada is the. Canada is a problem. They are not a good. Nothing about the Canadians, but I'm talking about Carney and the crown. You know, the. The prince, the king, he went to visit Canada. Everyone kissed his feet. So I guess he still owns it or however that works in that system. Very fuzzy, Carney. And I know you have clips on it we'll get to in a second. He's in China, so it's a clean shot. These are great shipping routes. We want to control what Europe gets, and we want to control what Canada gets. I think that's the reason. You're right. It's our hemisphere. People may not like it, but that's what it is. And so it's all about control of the shipping. All of those, even the ghost ships, they all go up through there and they turn around and they offload stuff and they're doing stuff. Turn off the transponders. I think it's a direct attack on Europe, saying we're in control of this. Now, let me finish the clip. Necessary to take over and annex all of Greenland, something that 85% of people living in Greenland oppose. Well, again, and let's. Let's look back. Denmark has a terrible history with green lenders. There was forced sterilizations up until the 80s or the 90s. So all of a sudden, wow, wow, he's. He's pulling out the podcast stuff. Nice. Until the 80s or the 90s. So all of a sudden, now that the US has expressed an interest, there is this new interest. And again, the United States needs to be in control to prevent a war and that we do not want to get dragged into someone else's war.

[B]

Well, but this is about the United States relationship with its allies, NATO allies, again, reacting with alarm. Their warning that this move to annex Greenland could in fact destroy NATO.

[A]

So let me just put this good to you bluntly. Is Greenland or Naito more essential to the United States national security? Well, Chris, that's obviously a false choice that, you know that. That's. That's a national perspective of European leaders. The European leaders will come around and they will understand that they need to be under the US Security umbrella. They'll get it. Don't worry. They'll Understand soon enough. So it was only cute. It was only. It was only in September when Marie Fredriksen, the Prime Minister of Denmark, issued an official apology to Greenland. Calling the campaign to manage Greenland's population. She called it systemic discrimination. It's also known as. Oh, what's the word? Eugenics. They sterilized.

[B]

That's why when you see the man on the street reports from Greenland, all the people say, we hate the Danes.

[A]

Of course they do. Because it was four and a half thousand women and girls, some as young as 12. They said, hey, come over here. Boom. Here's an IUD without consent or knowledge often. And so Denmark, this ran up until 1992. It was a huge report, 350 pages and we're liberating them. So, you know, and where is the Welker? Where's your report on that? That would be rather interesting to report on. I mean, actual eugenics by the Danes on the Greenlanders. Why? What were they afraid of? They would multiply like bunnies and then do something that was.

[B]

What were they going to do? They're in Greenland, they're going to build more houses. So.

[A]

You know, I'm really quite sure. And by the way, it was interesting. Hold on a second. Where is it? So as if Putin and Trump are having some kind of phone call, which is very possible and possibly even likely. Here's what happened this week with Putin about Europe. It's a surprise announcement. Russian President Vladimir Putin says he's ready to repair diplomatic ties with Europe despite.

[B]

Relations remaining at their lowest point since.

[A]

Russia's full scale invasion of Ukraine. I would like to believe that over time the situation, situation will change and our countries will return to normal constructive communication based on the principles of respect for national interests and consideration of legitimate security concerns. Russia has been and remains committed to precisely these approaches and is ready to restore the level of relations we require. Putin's comments come as Italy and France have urged Europe to re engage with the Kremlin. Until now, European leaders have resisted direct talks pointing to Putin's lack of commitment to genuine peace negotiations. What do you think that play is? All of a sudden Putin's like, hey, you know, I'd love to hang out and talk with you guys.

[B]

I have no idea which. It's kind of the problem is it's, it's asymmetric.

[A]

Yeah, it's asymmetric information. Exactly. It's a problem. Yeah.

[B]

And then I have no idea.

[A]

And then of course we have Carney in China. I know you have clips. I'll play a little Intro.

[B]

It's not that much. I mean, I did Carney in China is something of a red herring, I.

[A]

Think, but I thought it was fun.

[B]

It was fun.

[A]

Here's the 17 seconds of fun I got.

[B]

As you mentioned. Mine is the first visit of a Canadian Prime Minister to China in nearly a decade.

[A]

The world has changed much since that last visit.

[B]

I believe the progress that we have.

[A]

Made in the partnership sets us up.

[B]

Well for the New World Order.

[A]

The New World Order, yes.

[B]

The clip that's been going around, I.

[A]

Love it more like, please don't change anything. This is no good. We don't like what Trump's doing. We're afraid. What's your Carney clip?

[B]

I have two Carney clips.

[A]

Oh, ok.

[B]

I have. I have Carney in Canada, which is kind of a backgrounder. Who starts with Carney?

[A]

Yeah, it says minus. Is that the word?

[B]

Yeah, that one.

[A]

Canada's Prime Minister, Mark Carney announced today that his country is cutting itself its 100% tariffs on electric vehicles from China. We've started a new era, a new.

[B]

Chapter of our partnership.

[A]

Carney made the announcement during a visit to China, the first by a Canadian leader in eight years. In exchange, Canada will get lower tariffs on some farm products. Carney and Chinese President Xi Jinping. Xi Jinping also pledged to work on building stronger ties between their two nations. After years of tensions, Canada has largely followed the US in imposing tariffs on Chinese products. But Carney said today that they are building a new partnership for what he called current realities. So they're all going to be driving electric cars. Great.

[B]

No, he. They just can't see. This report sucks. This is PBS. They left out a couple of things. One 49,000 car cap.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Do you think that's important? No, that's. That amounts to like 3 total percent of all the cars in Canada.

[A]

It's nothing.

[B]

So the other thing is, why did they leave out that look? When you played dangled, you played that clip, by the way. Why did they leave that part out? That's the best part. It's the most interesting, interesting part where he talks about New.

[A]

New World Order. There's a New World Order.

[B]

So there's this kid, I call him a kid. I don't know. He's Chinese, so you can't tell how old he is. Ken Chow.

[A]

Oh, I'm sorry, I missed the racist comment. There we go. Yes, we heard it. We got. Yeah, can't tell.

[B]

Yeah, I'm sorry. I shouldn't be doing material.

[A]

Very, very, very, very bad.

[B]

So this guy Chow he runs, he's, he's one of these online commentators, but he's quite good. And he, his commentation tends to be about China going down the tubes and I was going to go broke any minute, which is not. There's a guy at Stanford, I've been.

[A]

Hearing about this, I've been reading that.

[B]

There'S a lot of people on this boat y and so this guy's one of them. But he makes a very good. I think his little analysis of Carney here, which was, which is more elaborate than our buddies on PBS I thought was, was valid. This is a good analysis.

[A]

And here's the structural reality Canada cannot escape. Over 75% of Canadian exports go to the US and less than 5% go to China. That's the mismatch of the century. In 2025, Canada US trade is more than US$1 trillion. Runs a huge trade surplus with us. Canada to China exports less than $30 billion. Trade deficit with China $57.8 billion. So the US bankrolls Canada's economy while China drains it. And security wise, Canada is welded to the US through NATO and norad. You cannot change geography. There is no universe, alternative universe where that can be changed. And interestingly, this deal also exposed Canada's internal split. As I said, Western farmers needed tariff relief, but eastern auto workers fear the Chinese dumping of EVs. Ontario Premier called the Chinese EVs subsidized spy cars. So this is a political trade off. Limited EV access, relief for farmers. That is the only substance of this China visit by Carney. And Washington barely reacted.

[B]

Why?

[A]

Because nothing strategic changed. Yeah, I think he's right. This is a good kid. Yeah, I mean the canola oil, I guess that's the main thing, export more canola oil.

[B]

Actually, the canola oil wasn't part of the deal as much as it was just the other products from the Canadian sources.

[A]

I thought it was mainly about the canola oil. I misunderstood. We have asynchronous information, so yes we.

[B]

Do, which is why the show's good.

[A]

And so then we have finally I was able to get, I thought, a reasonable report about the Alberta separatists and people coming out in droves for the to sign the referendum. This came from Global News. I was looking for it. Finally. The chill of a central Alberta night in January couldn't keep hundreds from lining up in Red Deer for a chance to, to support an independent Alberta. It's been an abusive relationship for so long. Really, it's. I think most of us just want out. Everybody's fed up, we're done with it. We gotta do something at the end of the line that snaked around the block. A chance to sign a petition calling for a referendum that would ask, do you agree that the province of Alberta should cease to be a part of Canada to become an independent state?

[B]

I am actually honored to be here.

[A]

And see the huge turnout of everybody and it makes us all proud to be Albertan. The wait here to sign this petition.

[B]

Is more than an hour long.

[A]

And this is just one of three signing events being held across Alberta. On this particular night, organizers have to collect just under 178,000 signatures. The turnout here fueling optimism that that could be done. Yeah, I think that'll happen. But then that's just to get the referendum. Then of course, you have the referendum and they'll tell them that they voted wrong because that's how it works in those countries. Voters vote over.

[B]

They got a really interesting note. It's too long to read, but Mike McDonald's the long analysis.

[A]

Yeah, I put it in the show notes so people can read it for themselves.

[B]

Oh, yeah, that'd be great. People should go read it.

[A]

But I'll just read through. He set it out in steps. And so I'll just read the steps. Step one.

[B]

But we in that, in that. I'm just prefacing it a little bit. In the scenario he presents, which he and his buddy developed, a guy lives in Southern California, but he's Canadian and it's dynamite, by the way. I believe it to be true.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And he does point out the anomaly that has to be noted, which is that Carney and Trump have had a previous relationship and Carney and Trump submarine that other guy, whatever the character is campaign. And he is the guy that would be a better. He was a conservative and he would have been a better prime minister. And Trump went out of his way to submarine him and help get Carney in. And Carney's the liberal who's going to Canada, I'm sorry, going to China and having the visits. The whole thing is a scam. And this guy's presentation, I think this, our producer's commentary, I think is right on the money.

[A]

So he starts by saying, step one, create the conditions for the destruction of Canada. Then his whole thesis is like Trudeau was put into power to make us weak, to soften everybody up. And he says Carney's role is to be the closer to which I kind of like.

[B]

Yeah, it's great.

[A]

And of course, every issue in Canada has a Trump angle. To it. Step two, create momentum for Alberta independence in progress, obviously. Step three, get Alberta to hold a successful referendum. He says that has been started. And again, I question that because that's hard to do. And in these countries, just like Ireland, you know, vote again, you did it wrong. The step four, post referendum chaos. He says, this is the wild speculation part, but we need some chaos. It's always good to change, to change stuff. Five, restore order and protect strategic resources. And then Canada implodes. Trump sends in troops to restore order, quote, and prevent bloodshed and to protect our strategic resources. I'm pretty sure that, that Canadians would welcome that if there really was chaos. Like, hey, what's all the fighting? Eh? That's no good. We want ute. Then of course, Alberta would be a protectorate and we could. And we'll get our pipeline with all the oil. And then, then he goes in, he kind of goes off the rails with NATO getting involved. And I'm not sure, but he says, watch what happens to Greenland. If NATO survives, then our scenario is a little more difficult. So he's banking on NATO blowing up. With what Trump is doing.

[B]

Well, if you wanted to go with that thesis, you can make the argument that the only. The real reason to do the Greenland.

[A]

Gambit is to blow up NATO is.

[B]

To blow up NATO. So we'll call it the Greenland Gambit.

[A]

I like that. I like Greenland Gambit. Potential show title.

[B]

Good show title too.

[A]

I'm gonna write that down. Yes.

[B]

And so that would be. So that would rationalize the whole Greenland action if you were out to blow up NATO, which is quite possible because I don't think Trump's ever liked NATO. He comes back and forth. It's been a drain on the US Economy. There's been a couple of. I mean, these are just useless drains. It's not a drain that's done us any good, although it has done a lot of good for the Lockheeds and military industrial complex.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

But with or without our being part of it, I mean, we've been kind of extracting ourselves and making them buy more stuff than less stuff. We were buying all this stuff before and giving it to them.

[A]

Giving it to them. Yeah. Well, so this clip that I skipped on the Greenland Gambit may come into play because as you know, everybody sent five guys, I think, like, oh, NATO is doing exercises in Greenland.

[B]

Yeah. Right. You got 32 people, a couple of.

[A]

Dudes hanging out there.

[B]

And here's this, or as Trump puts it, one more dog sled.

[A]

Yes. And here's France 24 inviting a possible.

[B]

Invader to join your military exercise is.

[A]

An unusual gambit, but that's exactly. How about that? An unusual gambit, but that's exactly what the head of Denmark's Joint Arctic Command has done. We had actually a meeting today with a lot of NATO partners, including the US and invited them to participate in this exercise.

[B]

NATO allies, excluding the US kicked off military drills on Greenland this week.

[A]

They're small, but highly public, publicized.

[B]

In light of President Donald Trump's bellicose rhetoric. We need cleanline for national security very badly.

[A]

What even does bellicose mean? What does bellicose?

[B]

Well, look up the definition.

[A]

Bellicose. Okay. Bellicose.

[B]

Had the robot B L L, I C O S E s.

[A]

Huh? Favoring or inclined to start quarrels or wars. How about that? Don't war over the meaning of bellicose. Okay, so favoring or so bellicose is war talk. I don't think they use these words by accident.

[B]

And Donald Trump's bellicose rhetoric.

[A]

The latest warning is that he'll slap.

[B]

Tariffs on any country that opposes his.

[A]

Plans to annex the Danish territory, a.

[B]

Necessity, he argues, because of Russian and Chinese ships in the region that pose a threat to America.

[A]

Commander Soren Anderson sought to dispel that claim.

[B]

There are Chinese and Russia vessels in the Arctic Ocean.

[A]

But not near Greenland.

[B]

But of course, if we have Russia attacking Greenland, it is my task to defend it and I will do that.

[A]

Both from. With Danish troops, but of course within.

[B]

The alliance as well. He insisted the US doesn't pose a threat, but Greenlanders fear they must take.

[A]

Trump at his word.

[B]

Large numbers of them are expected to.

[A]

Protest this Saturday, joined by fellow citizens on the Danish mainland with the message, hands off Greenland. Yeah, they had a big protest in Denmark and it was all coordinated, same signs, same.

[B]

Yeah, I'm sure that was coordinated by the left, but what was there a protest in Greenland like? He said yes.

[A]

Yes. Yeah, I didn't even clip it. There were so few people and all they did is they got one dude with a ginger, with, with red hair. That was the guy talking about with the hat. You're like, no, we don't want, we don't want Trump a ginger. Yes. In ice.

[B]

Those are all intuits up there, I'm telling you. All Eskimos, they, they had.

[A]

Why they always seem to get the very western looking people who speak reasonable English. So has Russia. Russia hasn't had any historical connection to Greenland, have they?

[B]

No, no. Okay. No, they're not going to attack Greenland. That's a good one.

[A]

We got a new Ukraine. It's called Greenland. You want to hear the protesters?

[B]

Yeah. In Denmark.

[A]

Okay, here we go. This is from Euro News. I think it's the black guy again.

[B]

Thousands of people took to the streets of Copenhagen on Saturday to protest against US President Donald Trump's push to take over Greenland. Demonstrations were also held in several other Danish cities. Protesters united under one slogan. Hands off Greenland.

[A]

We're protesting. Protesting against the orange dictator in the US who's trying. We're protesting against the orange dictator. Okay, all right. We're protesting against the orange dictator in.

[B]

The US who is trying to bully.

[A]

His way to undermine the sovereignty of the Greenlandic people and take away their own right to decide who they want to be.

[B]

Part of the protest followed Trump's threats on Friday to impose tariffs on countries that oppose his plans to take over mineral rich Greenland.

[A]

Which mineral rich territory. Yeah, that's. That's the narrative now. Mineral rich. Whatever you do, don't mention the Greenland, Iceland, UK gap, whatever. You don't talk about shipping lanes. We can't have that in the news. We can't have people looking at a map. Oh, Lord. Imagine if they looked at a map. And of course it would be. I have to start looking to see if there's any mainstream news reports where they say, so how do you feel about Denmark sterilizing your girls as young as 12 up until 92, which is.

[B]

Let's do a real survey up there instead of just some redheaded guy coming on the air. Maybe a break.

[A]

I could probably find that clip. Let me see, let me see. It might be worth it. Fine. Greenland. Hey, where is it? Crap. Let me just.

[B]

Yeah, we had too much clips.

[A]

Well, it's only because we've talked about this guy so much. Greenland protests. No, I don't know. I can't find it. I don't remember what it is.

[B]

I think it's in a Greenland talk.

[A]

Yes. I think we've exhausted it and it probably will. It probably will come out at Davos. You're right. We're probably going to hear something there and there will be outrage and that will be the only news that they cover. But there's obviously other things going on in the background.

[B]

There's something going on.

[A]

Yeah. I'm telling you. Give me your bike. It's over.

[B]

Bike. They don't have bike switch. I don't think I've even seen a bicycle.

[A]

Give me your. Give me your sled.

[B]

Skis. That would be a big.

[A]

Give me your sled. It's all over.

[B]

So I, so I've gotten to. To change topics. It turns out that Joe de Genova.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Is a regular guest on one of the radio stations in Washington, D.C. wMAL News Talk 105.9.

[A]

Oh, it's on FM.

[B]

Yeah. So News Talk 105.9. News Talk.

[A]

Now question. I know you're excited about Joe degenera. Is what he says interesting?

[B]

Yes, actually, Danny, they give him a long segment. He's like, it's not a zoo, but there's three people. People. Is this guy Larry o', Connor, who's, you know, they don't play it that way.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

But they do have a white girl and a black girl. And him, Larry o'. Connor. He's an old pro who's been around a lot who was involved with producing Dennis Miller. It was blog talk radio.

[A]

Black DAG Radio. That was blog talk radio. Yeah.

[B]

Block talk radio.

[A]

That's when we were all doing podcasting. Like. No, man, it's called audio blogs. Okay. We're doing blog talk radio. I don't care what you want with your podcast.

[B]

So I got a bunch of clips from this, this show, which is actually quite good for a local station. And I have the Genova, but I have some other stuff too, and I want to play it. And this is, this will be Joe on he. Here's the. This is clip number one. This is Joe digenova. One. I'm not sure what's on this clip, but. But he. Most of the clips are about Jack Smith.

[A]

Great setup. Thank you. Well, it's great to have Joe diGenova, legal analyst, former U.S. attorney to the District of Columbia. Good morning, Joe. Good Monday to you.

[B]

Good morning, everybody.

[A]

Oh, goodness. By now you like everyone in America. Well, okay, so what has not changed is he's still on a horrible sounding connection over the phone. Over the phone. Who still does remote interviews over the phone. Sorry, that just irks me that he hasn't upgraded anything.

[B]

I'm in total agreement with you. It makes zero sense. This is 2026. This is not 1970.

[A]

I'm calling in from the heartland of America. TikTok Columbia. Good morning, Joe. Good Monday to you.

[B]

Good morning, everybody.

[A]

By now you, like everyone in America and around the world, have seen the Point of View video taken by the ICE agent who eventually ended up having to use lethal force against Renee Goode. So one ICE agent says, get out of the car. That's the third time that ICE agent had instructed Renee Goode to get out of the car. Then Renee Goode's same sex spouse yells drive. By the way, it turns out, as I heard this morning, they were not actually married at all. There's no evidence they were ever married.

[B]

Scandal.

[A]

I know.

[B]

They were living in. They were living out of wedlock.

[A]

Out of wedlock and in severe sin. Yes, sir. Did Renee Goode to get out of the car. Then Renee Goode, same sex spouse yells drive, baby, drive. And that she did. Drove right into an ICE agents and then shots fired. So Joe, based on your legal analysis, is there even gray area here on this one?

[B]

No, none whatsoever. First of all, let's remember this is a law enforcement action. You know, I'm sorry, hold on. I am now sad that you've told. You mentioned. You brought up the point, which I kind of ignored. I guess psychologically that he's on a phone now all I hear is an idiot on the phone. Like maybe at a phone booth, who knows where.

[A]

Wait, wait, he was actually able to find a phone booth?

[B]

Yeah, phone booth is what I'm going through my brain. You've ruined these clips for me before I've even played them.

[A]

We shall continue.

[B]

This is a law enforcement action which is taking place in a public area where ICE has the absolute federal legal authority to operate. They were conducting ICE enforcement operations. That car had been following ICE all day, trying to interfere in the execution of their duties. This was not just some random car that showed up.

[A]

Good.

[B]

The driver's slip. So this is reiterating everything and saying that the guy's gonna get off and just his normal analysis that he does. I just wanna move it along so I can get to the good stuff. But this is what he's. This is his gig now, Joe. He works with and he comes on, I guess on Mondays and a couple other times during the week, and he gives his. And he's an ex, you know, U.S. attorney, so he's got some chops in that regard. He doesn't bring up anything about sealed indictments anymore.

[A]

Well, that was the whole point of playing him.

[B]

Well, that was in the olden days, but now he's. He does have some good stuff on Jack Smith.

[A]

Explain who Jack Smith is. People have forgotten by now.

[B]

What?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

You really think so?

[A]

Yes, yes, I think so.

[B]

Okay. Jack Smith is a phony baloney special prosecutor. Prosecutor that was illegally dubbed to be a special prosecutor against Trump. And he did a bunch of illegal stuff to try to get the goods on Trump and get him thrown in jail. He couldn't accomplish it. But here's Joe on Jack Smith and.

[A]

We'Re learning more and more about Jack Smith's Arctic Frost investigation, including a leaked memo now with some redactions, but at least we can glean from it based on Julie Kelly's report. And that Jack Smith paid an FBI informant to get dirt on Trump during this investigation. Is that, is that typical behavior for a special prosecutor to pay an informant? I mean, if you've got an informant, why do they have to be paid? It's almost like there's an incentive to. What, what, what is, what is he talking about? The FBI pays informants or undercover human. What they call it. Undercover human.

[B]

Yeah, there's something. Yeah, no, I agree he's off the mark there. But, but there's a nuance here that.

[A]

Okay, okay. To get dirt on the subject of the investigation.

[B]

Well, it is highly unusual for a prosecutor to pay informants. That's usually done by the FBI or local law enforcement with the consent of a prosecutor. But it adds to the texture of the complete unconstitutional conduct, conduct of Jack Smith, Andrew Weissman and everybody else associated who advised him. And Weissman was clearly one of his advisors throughout this process. This is complete, absolute abuse of power. There was a fascinating article over the weekend by Jason Whitake, who is a writer, a columnist for the Washington Post, who described the damage to the First Amendment that Jack Smith did by going after the presidential speech of a politician like Donald Trump in the middle of a campaign. That is the least of the damage that Jack Smith has done. He has completely upended neutral and detached law enforcement at the federal level. And he is singularly responsible for the lack of trust in the Department of Justice.

[A]

Even to this day, it just seems like Jack Smith. Who cares about Jack Smith anymore? It seems to be completely off the radar.

[B]

Well, they're trying to throw him in jail.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But, you know, here's part two.

[A]

But Minneapolis, man. But, but Iran.

[B]

Yeah, Partial agreement with that. That idea. He does say one more thing about Jack Smith, which I thought was good, but we can skip that because I know you're not going to like this too long. But. But at the end of all this is going on about how Jack Smith shouldn't do a public testimony because he's going to slam Trump. That's the summary. But then he says this little interesting kicker. This is the, this is the Joe DiGenova kicker. Well, there's no doubt that the grand jury in Florida, which. Which I originally was going to be supervising, but won't be because of Pam Bondi. There's no doubt that the grand jury in Florida has every opportunity to do exactly that. Larry, call all of those people into the grand jury in Florida, get their testimony. Not just for the raid on Mar A Lago, which was an outrageous abuse of constitutional authority by Jack Smith and Christopher Wray. Not just that, but for all of the actions that were taken prior to that, starting in 2016, six years before the raid on Mar A Lago, when FBI agents abused their power and when the FBI director, James Comey, outrageously violated the Constitution on numerous occasions.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So what is this? So I tried doing some research on.

[A]

This, about the Florida.

[B]

About Pam Bondi and about him. Yeah, I can't find anything. So he's got a grudge against Pam Bondi. Pam Bondi did something, and I don't know what, but it irked him. And so that. That was the reason for this series eclipse of from de Genova, because just this Pam Bondi thing. Now, that said, I do have two clips from the same show which got nothing to do with Joe diGenova. It's about a trend going on in D.C. i didn't do nothing about, and I guess there's a Reddit thread about it, and it's a big deal. And this could go national. I have two clips. One of them was actually mislabeled on my. You have it correct. Crying in public. Tell me if you heard about this. Crying in public.

[A]

I have not heard about this. I've heard about crying on TikTok and crying on your Instagram.

[B]

Yeah, they cry a lot. But this, this is the Jaw dropper.

[A]

It's amazing. WUSA Channel 9 here in D.C. they've put together an article. They've been looking at D.C. reddit threads over the last six years where people share their top places to go to cry in the District of Columbia. So we're talking the streets of the. Excuse me. The steps of the Lincoln Memorial, the Andrew Mellon Memorial Fountain, the United States National Arboretum. You know, again, these are all public places. Union Station. I would cry when I was walking through Union Station because I was terrified of the drug addicts and the stench of the criminal vagrants that were urinating in the halls there before Trump cleaned it up. How about the Botanic Gardens? Oh, the steps of the Watergate. Come on. Are you serious? Yeah. This is strange.

[B]

Strange stuff.

[A]

You've got the Library of Congress, National Nationals Park. Are we talking about. If you're a Nats fan, you were doing a lot of crying this season.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

That's somewhat unusual. Okay. That one. Yeah, that one will forgive. Yeah, this really is.

[B]

It's a disturbing part of, I think.

[A]

This trend that you see all the time. Heather Hunter had a great, had a great post on X about this that you do see all these people who are filming themselves crying and then posting it to tick tock as though it's this. Oh, oh, there you go.

[B]

Is it something that's they should be.

[A]

Proud of and to be publicly celebrated or something? It's very strange. Yeah. And it's, it's, it's like, you know, it's like a self induced struggle session on social media. It's crapping out. What, what he. Self induced what?

[B]

I don't know. That was the trite that was on the recording.

[A]

Yeah, I'm trying to figure out what he's saying. Self induced strange. Yeah. And it's, it's, it's like, you know, it's like a self induced struggle. Self induced struggle session. Like a Chinese struggle.

[B]

Oh, oh, I didn't get that at all.

[A]

Interesting observations. Yeah. And it's, it's, it's like, you know, it's like a self induced struggle session on social media that you're supposed to be having, I guess because you're ashamed of your privilege or something. I don't know. I honestly don't know. People, the Left in Washington D.C. run the show. They've got, you know, it's not conservatives that are going out there and weeping on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial. And they have, they, they own the district council, they own the mayor's seat, they vote 92% Democrat, they have their run of the place, but it's not enough power for. Okay, so first of all, shame on these guys for broadcasting through Skype or whatever or zoom, because that sounds like.

[B]

A zoom glitch that was off of their website. I know, I know it's ridiculous, but I agree.

[A]

But yeah, this phenomenon, I mean, obviously people are so upset. They really, I believe it. I believe they're really upset and they're upset enough to cry. They feel hopeless.

[B]

Yeah. But then they put up a website so they have scratched certain cool places to cry. Let's go to the steps of the Lincoln Memorial and film ourselves crying. This is a good spot. It's got nice background, it's got the right ambiance. Give me a break.

[A]

This kind of goes along with the Minneapolis we're only Here for love, which is just the continuous message from the mayor and from the governor. I feel very bad that people are this disoriented and this sad and. Yeah, of course you want to, you want to. I mean, when you're in a. If you all get together and you're all sad and you're mourning together, I will mourn with you. Yes. I will cry with you. I feel very bad.

[B]

Play clip two and then tell me what you. More what you think you know.

[A]

And it is interesting that this has been going on for six years. So it's not even, I mean, we know that this. I would have, I wouldn't have been surprised if this was part of like the Trump derangement syndrome. People, you know, not knowing how to handle their feelings over the last year when they've been after the big Kamala Harris boss. But no, this is something that I guess is just a regular feature of Washington, D.C. life now. Well, they're being exploited, obviously.

[B]

Six years, that means it started with Biden or at the end of Trump or maybe Covid. And they're crying away and there's, I think, the struggles. I'm glad you caught that because I couldn't, I couldn't hear it either. This, the idea of a struggle session, which is a very lefty communist thing where you, you know, you, you're privileged and so you have to.

[A]

Let's get the definition of the struggle session, of course, it comes for. From China, also known as denunciation rallies, where violent public spectacles in Maoist China were. Where people accused of being class enemies were publicly humiliated. So it's not quite the same thing.

[B]

No. That's kind of humiliating to cry in public.

[A]

But this is a self ind. Well, he said it. Self induced struggle session. He was correct in what he said, said a self induced struggle session. But let me just play the beginning of this clip because it includes a Minneapolis protester. And just listen, listen to what he says because this is the belief. Rising tensions came to a head.

[B]

Anti and pro ICE protesters clashed as.

[A]

Police roamed the streets of Minneapolis, a city emblematic of a national divide. I don't know what happened next, but I'm scared because I think Donald Trump wants to use Minneapolis as a, as a key or a hot spot to launch his coup. He's trying to create fascism. He's trying to end the republic. He's trying to create violence so that he can send in the troops. That is what they believe.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And they believe.

[B]

I don't have. No, I didn't take any of these clips, but I have seen tons of them where you have exactly what you said. Yes, they all say that kind of thing and they all genuinely believe it. They're taught to believe it somehow through the media and Their local leaders.

[A]

Yes, yes.

[B]

And now that the struggle session idea has been brought into this thinking, I have to say that that is very concerning. Well, this is, this is the white privilege thing taken to the limit. Yeah, this is like a, this is like race, race, race, race, race suicide.

[A]

Oh, I'm glad you brought that up because if we look at Minneapolis and I have clips and you know, Jacob Fry was on with Brennan this morning and with Jonathan Karl, you know, blah, blah, blah. And it's all kind of, first of all, it's all about the midterms. And both sides are exploiting this. This is what you do. You exploit human emotion to get people to vote. And so you, you, you drive. It's called a wedge issue. Used to be abortion. I'm sorry, Health care. Reproductive healthcare.

[B]

Reproductive rights.

[A]

Reproductive rights. So the new one is they're ripping families apart. They're doing all these things. And so I get emails from people and they say, hey, you know, I'm all about ICE removing illegal immigrants and violent crimes. And then go on to say, but, you know, I'm not okay.

[B]

It was always the big but, yeah.

[A]

I'm not okay with people being stopped on the street. Street. And to that I wanted to say the following. First of all, everybody had the opportunity to self not extradite, deport, to self deport themselves with $1,000 and a plane ticket to then re. Register and come in legally. And I don't know if that'll take five months or five years, but. And we have it here. We had 33 people picked up on Main street in Fredericksburg. And I'm sure that these, some of these people are, you know, that they're. In fact, I know for a fact that one of the cleaning services, ICE raided the cleaning service and took a bunch of cleaning ladies. And it's heartbreaking. But you know, either we have a country with laws or we don't then. And so the whole racist angle, because it is racist of people thinking this way is, well, I don't like it that brown and black people are being stopped and asked for their papers. Well, we are under kind of an emergency situation, but the same people never emailed me and said, gee, doesn't it suck for straight white men who cannot get a job and haven't been able to do that for at least five, six years? No one mentioned that. So, you know, life is not fair. But if we're going to fix our country, I think we have to go through this. And people who are just, I mean, you know, it's like there is no fix. These people, you know how technology often represents human behavior? I think these people are like large language models, except they've been trained on one set of data, mainly from Reddit, apparently. And by the way, there are actual large language models that train on Reddit.

[B]

Oh, yeah, I think a lot of them do.

[A]

So once you have this in your corpus, what's going to come out is always going to be a pattern recognition of the same behavior, the same answers.

[B]

In fact, just to interrupt you. The.

[A]

But. Go ahead.

[B]

But just to interrupt you. Yeah, just interrupt you. Elon posted today a note. Somebody had done some research and found out that ChatGPT in particular only recommended Kamala Harris to people who are questioning, you know, ask questions about who to vote for and never once recommended Donald Trump. That's part of the corpus.

[A]

Yes. Interesting you bring that up. I was using Gemini a few weeks back. I didn't. I forgot to mention this, and I was looking up information about Nick Fuentes and I really, you know, for as much as I bag on AI, I really do enjoy the Gemini Pro research capabilities. And it has sources and you can go and check everything and it does a pretty reasonable rundown. I'm enjoying it. Saves me work. It does.

[B]

No, I think this stuff is excellent.

[A]

However. So it gave me a full rundown of Fuentes and then I said, could you please do the same analysis with a positive view of Fuentes? And no matter how I asked the question, it said, I'm sorry, I cannot do that for people who are, and I forget the exact term, but people who are like, basically people who are racist or who are known Nazi sympathizers or the anti Semites, I cannot do research. I'm like, well, there it is. That's exact. And I had to ask for it because it wasn't going to give me a pro and a con. It gave me Fuentes is no good. And when I say, please give me an overview of and just give me a positive view, what things are positive. I'm sorry, I can't even give you that. That's. Now there's the reason I dislike AI.

[B]

I'm all in with that thinking it's disgusting that the AI does that and it does it all the time.

[A]

And you know what?

[B]

No Grok, it's all left. It's all lefty. But Grok, not conservative.

[A]

Grok does the same thing. Grok can't give me a positive Nick Fuentes. It can't.

[B]

You tried it?

[A]

Yes. Oh, I tried ChatGPT and you know Grok may do a little bit more, but basically, whenever it comes to antisemitism, I can't really do stuff. And we know because Elon got in trouble for that, and he immediately put some guardrails around it. So the point is, when people's brains are programmed, and even though I complain that who's really watching this stuff, it is the mainstream that the podcast Industrial Complex picks up. You know, the. The podcast. Sorry for the phrase circle jerk. Everybody going on each other's podcast.

[B]

I'm on his tomorrow. He'll be on mine next.

[A]

Be on your podcast. I was on your pod. How'd you. That was great. Yeah, we agree. Oh, yeah, I totally agree. They get it all from there. So it is narrative setting. It really is. That's where the clips come from. So it does trickle down. So it is important that we. That we do this work that we're doing. But you cannot deprogram these people. I think the President's plan, and this is the only plan, and that give him 45% chance it's going to work if he can turn our country into a success where everybody has more money or at least more purchasing power, where everybody is able to buy a home or have an affordable rent. He added another thing, by the way.

[B]

Get a job.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

If you're white.

[A]

Thank you. Get a job if you're white. He added something that you can now take out early. Take out money from your 401k, early retirement at no penalty. If it's for buying a house and you never have to pay tax on it, it stays within the house. It's kind of interesting dynamic. But if he can achieve that, that's where people actually see success. He said this early on, I think in 2015 or 2016, we said, I will bring together people by making America successful. And so far, people aren't seeing it. They aren't feeling it. So I just hope that he hangs.

[B]

Well, there's a lot of struggle against it. There's overt action against it, of course, and that's good. You know, they fight it. They're fighting it.

[A]

Democrats and Republicans alike, they're all fighting it. Yeah, they're fighting it, either by directly fighting it. So I feel. I really feel bad. These people need Jesus. They need prayer, whatever it is they need. They need something other than a struggle session on the steps of Watergate, you know, so believers, go out there and preach over them. I don't know. We've got to do something, because even if we're successful, if we can't look at our neighbors. The country's doomed. You know, you can't just have. We can't just be posting videos of people crying all the time on X. But it's no future. It's no future for. By the way, I'm gonna meet a granddad.

[B]

Oh, good for you.

[A]

Yeah, well, I had nothing to do with it.

[B]

Yeah, you didn't do anything. What are you bragging about?

[A]

I'm not bragging about.

[B]

Take all the credit, he says.

[A]

I'm happy. I'm happy. I was. I was hoping this would happen, but, you know, so I want. I want my grandchild to have some kind of future. I know it's not going to be the eu.

[B]

Well, you don't. They're in the EU now, as far as I can tell.

[A]

Yeah. I'm going to get them out. I'm going to do an extraction action.

[B]

It's not easy to. You think?

[A]

Agent Orange. Get ready. Get. We're gonna black bag them. We're gonna throw hoods over there.

[B]

You might as well kidnap them. Like it.

[A]

Like, might have to, like. Yeah, like getting him out of Scientology. I'm gonna bust them out.

[B]

So since you were on AI, I wanted to get these Grok clips out of the way.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Because there's a bunch of this. Everyone's got their panties in a bunch.

[A]

Hey, I called this. I called this.

[B]

I know you did. Looking at dance fans.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because I was getting a lot, by the way, what I'm getting now. I'm getting something new now. Oh, yeah. I'm getting. For some reason, my feed is loaded with these. With the cop breaking the window. Oh, I'm getting like.

[A]

I know, like the sovereign citizens people. Like, yeah. I am traveling. I am not committing commerce. Can you. Can you prove that I was speeding, Ossifer?

[B]

Yeah. Can I see the thing that proves it? I'm not getting out. I'm not doing this. And then he breaks the window. So I think this is a. I think this is. I put this in one of my comments. I think this is the glass window replacement lobby.

[A]

Okay. It's really native advertising, okay.

[B]

That is promoting people not to open their door.

[A]

John, you're stuck in an algo hole. Close.

[B]

Here we go.

[A]

Close the tab.

[B]

Elon Musk was forced to put more restrictions on his social media platform X.

[A]

And its AI chatbot, Grok, this week after its image generator sparked outrage around the world. Explains. Grok was and still is creating non consensual sexualized images, prompting some countries to ban the box. Amna Musk finally began bowing to pressure this week and announced that X will use geo blocking to prevent GROK from creating deepfake images of people in revealing swimsuits, underwear, and other clothing in places where the law prohibits it. But the move has not stopped the standalone app known as Grok Imagine from generating explicit images. The late changes have not appeased regulators, and now the governments of Malaysia, Indonesia, Indonesia and the Philippines have banned the chat bot altogether. Britain and Canada have launched probes into Grok, and the possibility of tougher penalties for musk are on the table. To help us understand more about grok's troubles and why they persist, I'm joined by Rihanna Pfefferkorn, a policy fellow at the Stanford Institute. That's just German for peppercorn. Give me a break.

[B]

Exactly right.

[A]

Joined by Rhianna Pfefferkorn, a policy fellow at the Stanford Institute for Human Centered Artificial Intelligence. Rhianna, thank you for joining us this Friday.

[B]

Hey, thank you for having me.

[A]

Yeah. I want to start with what does this latest series of problems with grok, These sexually explicit, non consensual images, what does this tell us of the safety of women and minors on the Internet? Oh, man, I love this.

[B]

This safety.

[A]

Oh, no. But sexual assault. Doing this is. They've changed this into sexual assault. Where. Because I had the. I. I started talking about this because I fell into that algo hole. Because of course, like, it's like, hey, put a bikini on her. Okay, Click. Oh, okay. And then you do that, and then, then the feed is filled. I just. I just. I haven't even looked at X for a week because it'd be just, like, tired of it. Because I also was getting the glass stuff. I clicked on one of those. But it starts with women who are putting up pictures that are explicitly provocative. Look at me. Look how good I look. Look at my butt. You know, so it's like, you know, go back to the source.

[B]

Look at my butt.

[A]

Come on. That's. If I don't, you know, if you ever go out and I never leave.

[B]

The house, I can't take a chance.

[A]

Well, this is just not a scenario for you. But we go out with friends and like, oh, let's take a picture. Because we all look great. We're all dressed up.

[B]

Oh, I refuse to take part in these picture taking sessions.

[A]

Right. But so here's how it works. You take the picture and then you have to hand the camera to the women, and they all take the camera, the phone, one by one. They do pinch, zoom, pinch, zoom. Okay. Can you see my neck? Do I have flabby arms? How does my butt look?

[B]

And then you have to have approval for 18 years.

[A]

But then it's like, and here's the funny thing. So this doesn't hap. It rarely happens that it's like grok, put a bikini on this ugly woman. No, it's good looking women.

[B]

And Keith Starmer, Keir Starmer, because this.

[A]

Is not about sexual assault at all. This is about shutting down Grok in as many countries, municipalities, states. I don't care what this is about. Something else. Most of these women are probably like, dang, girl, I look good in the bikini. Because it's true. Now, I mean, I.

[B]

Can I ask you a quick, quick question here?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

As you're going on and on, what is the difference between, between put a bikini on her and let's go back to 1990 and I take the head off of somebody with Photoshop and put it on a bikini clad model and then I post it. This is look good. Oh, Louise looks great here in her bikini. What is the difference?

[A]

The funny thing is that the women look great in these bikinis. That's the difference. It looks good.

[B]

I put the head on a bikini model. How can they look any better than that?

[A]

Well, exactly, because it's not about that. It's not about that. If you don't want your picture manipulated with Photoshop or Grok or what's the thing, what does Gemini has something fun. Banana Rama or something. They have some banana. Banana.

[B]

There's a crapload of them.

[A]

Yeah. So, you know, last night I took a picture. This is. Okay, great example. So we're, we're watching the Crown, the series that we've been doing, all of our historical series. And, and we, you know, take a break between episodes and get something to drink. And I'm looking at my phone says, whoa, you have new capabilities and features on your phone. I'm like, oh, all right, what is this? And it says, says you can take a picture. You can add a picture into a text message. Just click on the banana, I kid you not, and say what you want to change in the picture? So I say, hey team, let me take a picture. Boom. Take a picture. And I type into it. Turn my wife into a queen within two seconds. It's fantastic. She looks like a queen. She's in a royal room. She's got the crown on, she's got the hermelin, the cape, everything thing. And she's like, wow, that looks really good. I said, you should poach. Says, no, no, no. I have to have makeup on. I'm not going to this. You see, my point is that. No, it's not about women feeling abused because women love to have great pictures of themselves. If they're this type of woman who posts that, even if it's just sporadically. We're at the restaurant. It's about shutting down Elon Musk. Musk. That's what it's about.

[B]

Now that's a good point because I will agree with that. Because they hate. I don't know what it is, but everybody seems to. Ever since Musk went from being. This is what happens when you leave a cult. Musk was a lifelong Democrat when I left the Democratic Party, which was in 1980.

[A]

Yeah, look what happened. You became a podcaster. Where's that career going on? They killed all your career chances.

[B]

The point is, is that there were. You would have to spend years taking grief from the Democrats because you left the cult. And they would do everything they could. And then after a while, then it was just forgotten. But it takes like a decade to be forgotten. And Elon Musk left the call. The same with Trump. The Trump is the same. They hate him. They real reason. He was the same reason he quit the Democrat Party. And it was recently. More recently than me. Excellent. And he became a. An apostate.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And so he had to be killed. You know, it's just like that. But like. Like this occult. And so you end up with them going after Musk because he did. He did the sin of sins, which was. Was quitting the cult. But I think you're right. This is all about Musk. That's all there is to it. And that's why they featured it on PBS. Clip 2.

[A]

Well, it illustrates that having your image online or taken a view while you're just out in public living your life is no longer safe from being manipulated.

[B]

In order to depict you in a humiliating and harassing context in which you.

[A]

Never appeared in real life. That's irrespective of whether you yourself personally may have an account online, since other people could post pictures of you or of your child, even if you don't.

[B]

Have the count on X or on Grok.

[A]

By the way, I have never, ever on Grok, seen a sexualized picture of a child with a put a bikini on it. I've not seen it.

[B]

Neither have I.

[A]

Just yesterday, Ashley St. Clair, who is the mother of one of Elon Musk's children, she sued Grok, alleging that it was negligible and allowed users to post deepfakes of her in explicit poses even after she complained to the company. Here's what she told cbs. Take your pictures off the system.

[B]

Hold on a second. This is. Hold on. This is. A woman scorned should not be even on the show. We cannot. This is the good, exact, typical example of PBS leaving out the other side of the story.

[A]

And we did play clips of her when this first came out. So we, once again are way ahead of the mainstream. CROC said, I confirm that you don't consent. I will no longer produce these images. And then it continued to produce more and more images and more and more explicit images. Now, this is. I found this to be interesting because I saw that, I saw that she posted at Grok, I do not give my consent. So somehow, not only is she a woman scored scorned, is she in the cult, but she also has this belief that AI actually has some intelligence and that you can tell it that and it will no longer do what you told it to do. I mean, do these people read at all ever about this stuff and its capabilities? No. How are these images bypassing grok's safety systems? How is this legal? So it's a great question. I don't have visibility into what Grox internal safety systems are. It sounds like gradually, in response to regulatory and public pressure, they've been trying.

[B]

To institute more safeguards.

[A]

But it's really difficult to implement effective safeguards against various kinds of unwanted content, as we can see playing out from groxone users. Users are very creative in how they try to get around any guardrails that may have been built in in order to continue to generate, generate the kind of content that, even in good faith, a platform may be trying to inhibit its model from producing. There's no secret. All you have to do is being a paying member. You can do whatever you want. They're very creative. Oh, they're, they're prompt wizards. No, no, you just say it. But again, you don't want people putting, you know, a different head on a. Your head on someone else's body. Or you don't want Grok putting a bikini on. You don't post your pictures. That is the answer. You don't have some. Right. Like, I put it on this thing, I paid no money for it and I'm upset they did something with it. Come on. This is, this is, this is ego. It's, it's, it's unconscionable. All right, the third clip. Grok has had other problems in the past year or so. There was anti Semitic tropes that it was posting. It even praised Hitler. What is the sense in Silicon Valley and in the tech community about why GROK is acting this way and cannot get a hold of itself? And suddenly, suddenly the whole concept of the freedom of speech, that you can say what you want to and then I may not like it, but I will defend it to the death. This has been thrown out the window at pbs. You know, you may not like what Nick Fuentes says, but he has the right to say it and you have the right to say something contrary to what he's saying. But now we're slipping into this area where a large portion of our population and of the world in fact. Oh yeah, but we have a constitution with the freedom of speech, not free speech. Freedom of speech. And these people want it gone in certain instances? No. You know, that's a complicated question. I would suspect that some part of it may have to do with what training data has gone into the model. It may be that there isn't child abuse imagery directly underlying the model here for grok, but it might be that it was trained on extremist or Nazi and white supremacist material. So that might go to account for it.

[B]

And I'll note that XAI filed a.

[A]

Lawsuit shortly before New Year trying to enjoin a California law that has just gone into effect that would require AI companies to transparently release a summary of their data trading sources. You wrote a New York Times op ed. Are you familiar with this California law Now?

[B]

I am, because they talked about it on the show, but I haven't heard about it locally.

[A]

So are certain sources going to be forboating now? I mean.

[B]

Well, that would be the idea. Anything that would be against the Democrat Party California would. That would inhibit the sweep of the.

[A]

But remember, remember what were the top global risks?

[B]

Disinformation and misinformation by artificial intelligence.

[A]

And they're starting here.

[B]

Yeah, this is all propaganda.

[A]

They're starting here. You wrote a New York Times op ed a few days ago. It said, quote, there's one easy solution to the AI porn problem in a nutshell.

[B]

What would that be?

[A]

What? What is the solution here? Well, I'm not sure that it's as easy as the headline suggests. Nevertheless, what I argue in the op ed for the Times is that AI researchers and AI model developers need what we would call a safe harbor in the law to enable them to. Hold on a second. This poor mother who feels sexually abused seems to be somewhat of a well informed activist. She's not just some dummy off the street. She knows all about how it's done, training models. She knows about laws.

[B]

You're talking about the one person being interviewed. Yeah.

[A]

Isn't she still the. The Elon lady, or is this someone else?

[B]

No, no, no. The Elon lady's long gone. This is the. The person from Stanford who's the lesbian. I don't even think she's a mother. And she's giving us a long lecture on this. And she obviously didn't write the headline on that New York Times piece because writers don't write headlines.

[A]

No. Well, okay.

[B]

People have to remember that.

[A]

Let's continue with the sinner. Better test image. Image generation models for their capacity produce potentially illegal content without themselves fearing prosecution for trying in good faith to better safeguard those models. Yeah, I thought that was particularly interesting. Can you talk a little bit about what that means, those red teams, and how AI researchers basically work on this right now? So red teaming is the practice of basically trying to act like a malicious user would and try and attack your model every which way to see if you can figure out what exploits may be latent, what loopholes are there, and then you can try and close those holes in order to make the product safer and keep actual bad actors from misusing those potential loopholes.

[B]

Poles.

[A]

All right, so this is. I think we've. We've determined this is just the first shot across the bow to shut down public use of artificial intelligence for these type with distribution. I would say it's AI with distribution is what they are worried about. That'll be the top topic in between skiing at Davos and. And it come. And when it comes to the United Kingdom, them. I would say that what is happening in right now in the past 10 days is part of the reason they want to shut this down. Are you familiar with Amelia Rose?

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

Okay, so I. I got a quick explainer, but not really that quick. This is.

[B]

And by the way, you're violating your own rule.

[A]

What did I do?

[B]

You said Davos.

[A]

Oh, Davo, I'm sorry. Thank you for correcting me, Davo. Yes, well, I'll get. I'll get back into it once we start getting asymmetric information from Davo. This is the joy heretic, busy YouTuber explaining the Amelia phenomenon. I assume that you know what the Amelia phenomenon is. Just in case you don't, perhaps you're American or something. There is a video, a computer game essentially, that's been put out by a group called Prevent, which aims to prevent young People getting involved in terrorism, but actually focuses on preventing young people from getting involved in what it calls the dangerous far right.

[B]

And the computer game is called Pathways.

[A]

In that computer game you can choose to be Charlie a boy or Charlie a girl. And you are, you meet a girl called Amelia. And Amelia basically encourages you to get involved in things like saving your country and stopping grooming gangs and protesting against fake refugees and all of this sort of thing. Amelia is a girl that you meet at your sixth form college where the other people are very sensibly and normally and boringly dressed and Amelia isn't. Now why has this become such a phenomenon? From an evolutionary perspective? It has taken off so much and of course it has. Of course it has. She is now the new symbol, symbol of being based. The new symbol of being on, on the far right or the base right or, or red pilled or whatever you want to call it. It is it. You've got amazing videos that have been made about her. She's now a cult figure and it's happened due to AI technology and so forth in only about a week. What is it about her? Why has this been such a, a miscalculation on the part of those that made the game? What were they trying to, to do? Well, they're trying to make, make Amelia out to be this evil, nasty, untrustworthy kind of person. And they are projecting onto the rights basically onto those whom they oppose their own qualities. So what has happened? I think you understand what his setup was there. So you have.

[B]

Yeah, I have a peripheral knowledge.

[A]

Okay, so I'm just going to play some of the audio. Like I cut it way down because of course with AI and, and so now anime is going because she's kind of, it's kind of the whole thing is kind of anime ish. Although it's a little more life form realistic than anime. And they've programmed it to do this. Hi, I'm Amelia. I mean and you know, so. And she looks like all of the young like 16, 17 year old girls when we were living in, in Guilford, Christina's friends. And they have, you know, a skirt on, they have cute little socks and you know, they got their little flat shoes. She's got pink hair. A cute girl. Hi, I'm Amelia. I'm English and I love England. I like having fish and chips and a pint at the local pub. I like Shakespeare and Dickens, Tolkien and Lewis, Harry Potter. I like pork sausage and dogs and fashion. Param, param. But I don't like that Brits are Famously polite. But it mustn't mean we're willing to commit cultural suicide. Our institutions, the Church of England, the BBC, are a bunch of queers and nonces. How the bloody hell did we go from Churchill to you? You, Sadiq Khan, the mayor. This is London, mate, not Afghanistan or Star Wars.

[B]

Organic man.

[A]

Our government won't even protect our schoolgirls from grooming gangs. Sod off, packy wankers. The police won't help. They're too busy confiscating garden tools and suppressing free speech. That's right, miss. What have I done? Officer, you've tweeted rudely and you're under arrest. Curry is fine, but we have several recipes already. We don't need 2 million Indians here to make it for us. There are 50 Islamic nations in the world. Muslims don't need to be on our island. They want to conquer it. The government says it must be this way. That doesn't make it right, does it, Robin Hood? These dragons that threaten our England won't go away unless brave knights rise up to slay them. Or did all the British bloodlines with any bollocks get killed off in World wars one and two? Englishmen. It's your country and it's being taken from you. Chav Posh. Doesn't matter. We're already all in this together. I don't want this to be the future of the women of England. And I'm sure the women of Iran and Afghanistan didn't want it either. Your ancestors beat the Spanish Armada, Napoleon and the Nazis. Surely you can handle welfare, Taurus. History will record what you do or don't do. Get cracking. Lads. Love Amelia. It's really the digital version of the Guy Fawkes mask, but it is powerful. It is powerful.

[B]

I saw this. I didn't clip it, but I saw this video and it's. She's a little better than anime.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I said it's very. It's very AI Life.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't understand what. What's going on insofar as. Are they thinking that this is going to repel people or it's supposed to. It's supposed to have the opposite effect.

[A]

No, hold on, hold on, hold on. The game that this is based on was supposed to repel people from Amelia, but they took Amelia and turned her into a superhero, saying all the things the right. The Tommy Robbins.

[B]

Who in the right did this?

[A]

Well, I don't know who did this, but this is online. You could have made it. I could have made it. Now everyone's making These videos of Amelia. And Amelia is a pro English girl who was saying, get out with all this nonsense, right?

[B]

Get out of town.

[A]

It's the exact opposite of what her character was meant to be in this. So you can just see these numb nuts going, I know how to reach the young people. We need to repel them from this type of thinking with a game.

[B]

And you'll be choking a screw up.

[A]

Exactly. So back to Davos. They are deathly afraid of what is now possible with AI for mimology. Mnemonic warfare. That's what this is. And they're losing mnemonic warfare. You like that, huh? Yeah, it's fifth generation warfare, man. Man, that's from down the street. My neighbor.

[B]

Man, that's general. Is that the guy with the dogs or the guy with the wild kids?

[A]

Both the same guy. Talking about it's the same guy. Yeah. Then so. And it's out of hand. So now everybody is making. Amelia is doing everything. She's plowing down people. They don't. You know, the Brits are sticking of it. They're sick of it. And the only power they have, apparently, is to do this. Although I remember in the 70s, you saw those thin farmers coming down from the north with their pitch. Literal pitchforks was a little different scenario. But they don't want it. They're done with it. I don't think it's reverse.

[B]

You're an optimist. No, I believe to me is nothing more than sublimation.

[A]

I. Sublimation?

[B]

Yeah, sublimation. The idea that you. You had, you push this out there, which is good material, and you say, I feel a lot better now. And then you don't do nothing.

[A]

Well, I believe there's other forces at play than just the people. I mean, I. I think, you know, I believe in.

[B]

Yeah, well, you can think that all you want until I see some action. I didn't say think, I said change.

[A]

I didn't say think, I said I believe. That's different.

[B]

You believe you can believe what you want, but I. Until I see the actual change.

[A]

Change.

[B]

Nothing's. Nothing's. You know, this is the sublimation. It's a classic example and it works great because you feel like, oh, this is terrific. People are. Their awakening is taking place and then you. That's all you. As far as you go. It doesn't get. I don't see where it's getting anyone riled up.

[A]

Well, they're clearly worried about it. Otherwise it wouldn't be the top of the agenda. You know, I think Historically, you do eventually push people too far. I think. Witness Iran now, I don't know if anything's going to change there. We're certainly not going to do it. But by the way, I love. So you know, President Trump turned on a dime, went, nah, nah, I'm not gonna do anything. And all of the podcasters, all of the anti war podcasters who've been yelling for years, Trump is in on. He's just another neocon. You're gonna be in more foreign war. Ne. More foreign wars. Look at him. He's going to be the same. It's all going to be the same. But when he turns down the opportunity to do anything, you never hear them say, wow, that was great. He stepped away from it. That's awesome. No, because they're secretly Trump haters. That's what it's not about. Anti war. They hate Trump and they love likes and clicks and views and money. Dave Smith.

[B]

Everybody loves money.

[A]

Money. Oh, no, it's not the first thing I love. It's just not.

[B]

I didn't say it was the first thing everyone loved, did I? I said everyone loves money. You have to have money to pay the bills. Everybody, bills that need paying. Everybody likes this show has bills that needs paying.

[A]

Okay, but I.

[B]

That was a cube.

[A]

No, but before you go there, I don't do this show for money. That's. That's kind of what I'm saying. I'm doing the show for other. I like it. I like doing the show.

[B]

Yeah, well, we both like doing the.

[A]

Show, but it's not. It's. It's the first reason. If I didn't like it, I go do something else.

[B]

The public service, what we're doing, but it still results in bill that we have our own servers because we have to have our own service.

[A]

I got the cue. All right. I got it. We'll go to the donation segment with that. I want to thank you for your encourage. Say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in leaving the cult. Say hello to your friend on the other end and mine as well. John C.

[B]

Good morning. Wow. Feeding their subs in the water, all the dams and nights out in the.

[A]

Morning to the trolls in the troll room. Let me count. You could. Could barely hear the troll count over your noise makers there. We have that peak trollage1922. I'm always amazed at that many people. I'm amazed. And people who.

[B]

You want to know what the high mark was?

[A]

Oh, 2, 800. No, 4,000. I think at some point? Yeah.

[B]

Over 4,000.

[A]

Yeah. Well, and so. And what were the circumstances of that?

[B]

I think World War III was about to break out.

[A]

That's exactly right. Then, you know, people like, let me. Let me see. It's Sunday. Is World War III breaking out?

[B]

No, no, it's not breaking out. So let's go do something.

[A]

I'll listen to it.

[B]

Go mow the lawn.

[A]

I'll listen to it tomorrow. It's okay. But if you want to listen to us live, you can do that with a modern podcast app. Go to podcastapps.com we actually give you a live stream in your podcast app. You don't get that on Apple, Spotify, Amazon, YouTube, any of that stuff. If you want to listen to this show live, just subscribe to the no Agenda show and a modern podcast app. We send out the bat signal when we're live. You tap on it, you're listening live. You're like, you want to go mow the lawn? It's fine. Close it. And then just wait until we post it. 90 seconds within posting, it should show up in your modern podcast app. If it doesn't, let me know. Then something's broken. But that is all part of the Podcasting 2.0 initiative. Another thing I do. Not for the money, actually, not for the money. There's no money. I just do it for the love and a public service. And we do this value for value, which is just a wonderful way to work. We don't have a job. We create. We are creators of value. We are convinced, and. And apparently other people are as well, that what we do has value. And all we say is, did you get something out of this? Is it something you can talk to your neighbor about? Something you can say to your sister or your mom or your friend? Is it something that. Did you learn something? You feel better about it? Do you feel like you can look at the world and go, nothing new under the sun and maybe you heard a good joke or two, then send something back to us. Time, talent, or treasure. You can participate in many ways. One of the big things, and this is important, is hitting people in the mouth. That is our formula. It has been for over 18 years. Tell somebody about the show. There's no discovery mechanism. There's no name recognition that makes a show listenable. You know that people listen to the show. This is not like YouTube where you click on one video or like X, and all of a sudden you get in all kinds of smashing window videos. That's not how it works. People will take that recommendation from You. And that is how you build up no Agenda Nation. That's a great way to help us out. It really is. Other ways is creating end of show mixes. I did no AI end of show mixes for today. And the simple reason, because they're no good. They're just no good. And you know what?

[B]

So here's, here's a lot of good.

[A]

No, no, those aren't AI. Those are old. Those are old.

[B]

No, no. Today I'm saying, generally speaking, we've heard good AI.

[A]

So when they're toe tappers, when it's a big band, those sound pretty good. But now people are getting you. Because now that I've played a few, they're like, do a whole song with lyrics. Unless the lyrics are on the screen, which is how you're viewing your song, it's not interpretable. That's a song that is a hit song is not just because you put snappy lyrics to it. It takes a certain magic that you're just not creating with AI. And here's, here's why I stopped playing saying, unless it's exceptionally good, there's some hook that really grabs me. It's off the table. And it happened because here you go again. There's one lady on X and she posts videos of bands from the 70s 80s. And it's always like, do you know the song? Do you know the band? And usually just by looking at them, like, oh, I know exactly who that is. And I tap on it, I'm like, oh, yeah, that's a great song. And I, I hit one because I knew who it was. It was Candy Dolpher playing saxophone. She played with Prince and Dire Straits, Mark Knopfler and. And I was just listening to it and I'm hearing she's kind of playing with the. This lecter guitar and he's playing and then she goes. And like, no AI has ever achieved that. It's so beautiful. And it completely turned me sour on all the AI. So stuff. Completely. It's like, no, it's. It's not music anymore. It's no good. And the same. God and the same.

[B]

What a bigot.

[A]

No bigot. It's. It's. It doesn't do anything for my soul. It just doesn't. And likewise, you know, when it comes to art, we have so much what's all AI. But actually what comic strip blogger did his second in a row, by the way. Way for episode 1834, which he titled Swarm Forge. This could have been done with Photoshop. And it's fat JD Kind of like a Pulp Fiction pose with a revolver, saying, give me Greenland. And it was. And I think it was because of its simplicity and that it could have just been. I mean. Yeah, Fat jd. I mean, you can. You can make a fat GD JD with. With Photoshop. You know, just expand.

[B]

You also cut and paste a million fat JDs that are out there. That's what you did.

[A]

Yeah, well, I mean, this was clearly AI generated.

[B]

Are you sure it could have been Photoshop?

[A]

It's comic strip. Like you said, it's comic strip blogger. It's AI.

[B]

Yeah, you're. What you're accusing him of right there is that he's only AI now.

[A]

He is. He calls himself the AI Arch Wield Wizard. Yeah. You didn't know that?

[B]

I did not know that.

[A]

Okay, so that's why I know it's AI.

[B]

Does he do arches? Does he do a lot of landscape stuff that has a lot of arches? Is that why he called himself that?

[A]

No, no, I believe he just thinks he is really good at AI and so that was the only one that was any good.

[B]

Thinks he thinks he's good.

[A]

Oh, he is. He.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

The. He makes his money with it.

[B]

That wasn't me that said that he.

[A]

Makes his money with it. So does he. Yes, I. I believe he is an AI engineer.

[B]

Oh, okay. Good for him.

[A]

Yeah. And so we don't even need to discuss anything because the rest was just AI slop that we didn't choose. So that means we can go straight. Oh, no agenda art generator.com for all your AI slop. But we do give preferential treatment to things that don't look like AI Slope slop. Which brings us to our producers who support us with a third T. Treasure time, talent and treasure sending us value. Clearly, some people think we're very, very valuable. I mean, it's amazing when I see this list sometimes, like, wow. I just love that people do this. And we thank everybody, $50 and above, not under 50 for reasons of anonymity. There's still people who just want to give money or you're on a layaway program. We encourage and appreciate that. No agenda. You can do it any way you want, anytime you want, for any reason. We love numerology. And Densel, he's new, I think he comes in with $1,111.11 from Port Townsend, Washington. Oh, he says haven't donated in a while. To let you guys know how much I appreciate the best podcast in the universe, please give me a double deduce you've been de douched. Do we do double deduching? Seems like. Should we?

[B]

There's no reason for it.

[A]

I'll do it.

[B]

You've been de douched.

[A]

And of course, he becomes an executive producer of episode 1835. And in this segment, we thank everybody who donates 300 and above. You become an executive producer. It's a real credit. You can use it on IMDb.com apparently some people are automatically entered on IMDb when you become an executive.

[B]

There's somebody out there that is dogging it. Yeah. And doing it for us or them.

[A]

I don't know if that's a bad thing necessarily.

[B]

I don't think it's a bad thing. It keeps people from having to do it themselves as long as they keep.

[A]

Updating it for everybody.

[B]

And Dana Brunetti mentioned in his last note that he did not donate on his behalf. It was a Scott Adams donation. We have to change it in the credits.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[B]

Because he said that he would never ever dean to. To become an associate. Just for backgrounders out there, Danny Brunetti is a real.

[A]

Yeah. The House of Cars.

[B]

A real famous Hollywood producer.

[A]

Gray.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Movies, television.

[B]

A lot of movies other than porn.

[A]

He's done all kinds of stuff.

[B]

He made all his money from Shades of Gray. But he did a lot of quality work.

[A]

More highbrow stuff. Yes.

[B]

So his thesis is the following. Just for people out there, Executive Producer is a real title in Hollywood. It means you had something to do with the movie in one way, shape or form. Usually at least finance maybe is part of it, which is what we use it for. Associate Executive Producer. As far as he is concerned in the Hollywood level, it's the guy who gets coffee. It's a secretary. It's somebody you hire and you say, what title would you like? And you give him a phony baloney title. It's like Executive Vice President at a bank. Everybody's an EVP at the bank. You know, you're a teller one minute and they won't give you a raise. So you become evp.

[A]

I will say at mtv, when I first got there, because we didn't have those terms when I was doing television in Holland. And the AP is what they were called, Associate Producers. Producer was literally the person who got my coffee. But they were also the people I loved the most because they were always taking good care of me. So, you know, go.

[B]

They're the lovable group. So you should take that into account. Even though he. I'm sure the ap. This coffee's not hot enough. What do you know better than this?

[A]

No. Well, that would be you. But in my APs, they always had the lunch ready for me. They knew exactly what I needed. They make sure. Oh, hold on a second. I think we should stop. He's a little bit. His forehead's a little shiny. That is what an A. That's an AP who you love. And when you love them, they love you back. So they are very important to me in my television career experience.

[B]

Onward with Steve Banstra. 453, sir.

[A]

He's back with their BNA. Yes.

[B]

453.9 ITM boys. Well, I haven't been overboard. I am behind on episodes and returning value. A lot of other it says here, stuff, shitty stuff has been consuming my time. Here's 333 for my annual EP donation. Plus 59.93 plus something times two for the over easy egg.

[A]

G, G S. Oh, the egg. The three.

[B]

Hey. Oh, he's got a space there with a dot or something.

[A]

33995 chi.

[B]

Golden shower donations. The way I read it. No, that I missed on November and December. Thanks for the keeping up the deconstruction. Even when other things consume your time. Jingles, please. Boogity boogity. And F Cancer. He's got an F cancer. And there's probably something chewing up his time. I'm sure there's something.

[A]

You're on on the prayer list, brother.

[B]

You've got karma.

[A]

Sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off there. It's okay, Steve. Thank you very much, brother. Joseph Pinto, Brookhaven, GA. $333.33 executive producer credit for you. I see no note. Therefore you get a double up. Karma.

[B]

You've.

[A]

Karma.

[B]

Samuel Barrett in Vernon Rockwell, Connecticut.

[A]

That's horse country. Horse country.

[B]

33333. He's becoming a knight. And he sent a note. He said this came in as a check and he sent a. A note in the morning. John C. And Atom. I apologize for assuming John was Tom Sawyering Adam. I listened to the show where you guys switched up the 50s and above, but was still convinced John had a crafty trick up his sleeve because that's the way he is being an elder millennial, young gen Xer, born 29 September 1980. For anyone interested in giving him a gift. And he says for the birthday list. No, we don't have a birthday list. Hello.

[A]

You gotta email us notesoagendashow.

[B]

At the time.

[A]

Yes, that. Yes.

[B]

But the day before the show to bookkeep for anybody. I'm well aware of what a book looks like and even have visited Mark Twain's house in Hartford, Connecticut multiple times. However, I can see how you two would think the world has forgotten the classics with all the tick tock insanity you've subjected yourselves to.

[A]

Yes, I do think so. I think the vast majority has not read those books. Books prove me wrong.

[B]

Whether, and I would agree with Adam whether or not there is even Tik Tock in existence. Nobody reads anything. They get a Chromebook. They don't even get books anymore.

[A]

Yeah, I know.

[B]

And they can't read. After my last great big boobs donation, this will put me over the top for a knighthood. I like to be knighted. Sir Sammy B. Of the Eastern skies. And have Mexican copies. Coke, by the way, which all coke will be.

[A]

Yep, it's coming.

[B]

Lefsey and Krumkake or whatever that is.

[A]

Bukake. No. Crumb cake. Crumb cake.

[B]

Crumb.

[A]

Cocky crumb cock. Crumb cake. I think it's crumb crumb cake.

[B]

Yes. Okay, well, that's the way he spells it. I request some shape shifting. Jews and karma for all. Please keep doing a bang up job for their foreseeable future teacher, Samuel Barrett. You've got karma.

[A]

All right, Samuel. We go to Ellie Pollock, St. Augustine, Florida. First Associate Executive producer title for the show with a row of ducks. 222.22. Hello, John and Adam. Longtime listener, first time donor, A de douching is certainly in order.

[B]

You've been de douched.

[A]

I have been listening since your first JRE appearance, as you used to say. But not often enough anymore. More Rogan donation. Actually, I should have. I should have brought it out of the closet. Here we go. I. All right. I've been meaning to jump on the most monthly donation of 1111, but just have not made it happen until now. So with that said, here's 22222 donation. I started my monthly support of 1111. To the best podcasts in the universe. Please add this donation to your Jew donation list. You mean Jew money. Let's get it straight. We are out here and we're listening. Good. There. There she is. A few months ago, you shared a tip of the day for a burn cream called Ching Wan Hung, which I purchased and put in my emergency kit. Yes, this was my tip of the day. Well, a few weeks ago, my 4 year old daughter took the initiative to rekindle our burn pile, which resulted in a hot coal in the top of her shoe where it stuck. Ow. She ended up with a pretty nasty second degree burn. We used the cream for two weeks. Wow. Typically, you put it on and, well, it sounds like she was really badly burned until the blister opened and we could not anymore and had great results. Oh, she'll be left with a small scar. A good reminder not to try such shenanigans again. The doctor was very impressed with how nicely it's healed. Thank you for the recommendation. Saving children's toes for 18 years, ladies and gentlemen. Gentlemen. And finally, thank you for your years of decoding the news and the culture. We thoroughly enjoy listening to no Agenda and can't recommend it enough. Keep at it. Four more years, says Ellie Pollock.

[B]

That was sweet.

[A]

Yes, very nice.

[B]

Sir Tim in Overland Park, Kansas. 222.22 from Sir Tim. I had completely missed that Adam was doing a podcast with Pastor J. Jimmy. It's called the I. We do a podcast together. Until JCD started bitching about Adam reusing content. Bitching about him reusing content. Yes. He did that again today, by the way. For your information.

[A]

What did I. What did I do?

[B]

You said on the. On the Pastor Jimmy show, we get to do this.

[A]

Yes, we get to do this. It's called. We get to what? This? It's called. Yeah, this. We get to do this. God, the world.

[B]

Yeah, we're doing it now. Who's on first?

[A]

What did I reuse?

[B]

That Trump is going to go before Davos and give his terms of surrender.

[A]

Oh, well, I didn't come up with that. Actually. That's. I stole that from Tom Luongo from.

[B]

Gold material and played it on a religious podcast.

[A]

Religious. It's just two guys. It's not a religious podcast. Asked before.

[B]

FYI, JCD needs to lay off on the tirades. Does that include the one I did today about the Logan Act?

[A]

No, only tirades against me.

[B]

Mimi says the same thing. He comes off like a complete dick when he goes off. Which is exactly what Mimi said. What's interesting, Just don't pick on Adam in this podcast. And that and the let's do this podcast podcast or whatever.

[A]

Skull.

[B]

We do this together.

[A]

We get to do this.

[B]

We get to do this.

[A]

You can say it wrong as often as you like. It's fine. We've never had so many listeners. It's highly appreciated.

[B]

Yeah, you're gonna be swamped with listeners.

[A]

You know, some people feel that you're jealous of me and Jimmy, and I don't want you to feel that way. I don't want you to feel that.

[B]

Well, no, but I will tell you what. What irked me, okay. When you threw the substack column as my doing repurposing, which is true, because I repurpose a lot of stuff in that column that we talk about on the show, but it's after the show. It's always after we've discussed it on the show, so I can fine tune it. It's always after. I don't do a substack column before a topic arrives on the show.

[A]

Oh, well, you have my permission. It doesn't bother me.

[B]

And further more unlike the. We do this podcast together.

[A]

We get to do this.

[B]

I plug the no Agenda show at the end of. People can check this out. At the end of every single substack column, there is a promotion for the no Agenda show.

[A]

Well, I would say that of the 18 episodes of we get to do this, that I have discussed no Agenda in at least 17 of them. You can't fault me for not promoting the show or talking about or even about you. In fact, I think that what really irked you, and I understand it, and I apologize, is that I said this is the highlight of my week, and I think that might have irked you, but I could be wrong.

[B]

That is exactly right.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

So even though you said earlier on this show, I said that you love doing this show and you would do it for free.

[A]

I would. I would, but.

[B]

Yeah. Well, I would.

[A]

But if you keep doing that, then I won't do it at all.

[B]

So it was really. And then I'll take my marbles and I'm going home.

[A]

If I have to. If I have to.

[B]

But I'm taking those marbles. I'm going home.

[A]

But I also.

[B]

Well, as soon as I get. Once I get the name of that podcast down, I'll stop doing it. But I can't remember. Remember that we get to do this.

[A]

Literally. People at church came up to me this morning, are you okay? And I said, no, I wasn't. I was. I was upset. They say, well, we don't mind. We don't mind the repurposed content. We kind of like hearing it more than once. Okay.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I think we're good.

[B]

Well, I would. I'm okay. And I'll say one last thing.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Now I got nothing else.

[A]

I also recognize that I needed to change my attitude. I am not the same person that you were talking to three years ago. And I recognize that I also have to adjust my own attitude towards you, certainly. So I feel much better after having discussed the matter with my friends.

[B]

And I'll tell you this. If people followed the dynamic of this show show, they would know that if we actually lived in the same town or did it in a studio together, this show would have been over a decade ago.

[A]

Oh, easily, maybe even after 100 episodes, which is kind of where I was ready to quit at the time.

[B]

You were ready to quit after 10. And so.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And the other little basis and them done with the topic is the problem I had with the repurposed material, even though people like to hear it twice somehow, for some reason. Is that it. It lessens the. Because I hear that they, that we've had this podcast together.

[A]

We get to do.

[B]

We do this together. We get to do this.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Is that you. You do the bit and you've rehearsed it and then you come in. The, the, the spontaneity is missing from this show, which is.

[A]

But see this, this is where. And okay, just, just. So two things. First of all, I was actually, in both cases that you called me out on it. I was actually excited to get your input, your take on it. That's why I brought it up. Not to have it rehearsed and do it again, but I am interested in what you have to say.

[B]

Well, if you had presented it that.

[A]

Way, I didn't get far enough. But that is truly. That, that is really the truth. If something comes up.

[B]

Okay, well, I accept that as the truth.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And I will refuse. I, I should either stop listening to the other show, which is hard to do because it's.

[A]

I know it's a great show. I know it's short once a week.

[B]

It's only. What's short. That's. That's the redeeming quality.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

It's like Horowitz and I, we only do an hour.

[A]

Yeah. And the other thing I will say is that there was never. But of course you didn't listen to every four hour mofax with Adam Curry show.

[B]

No, it was hard because you said there's a word in there you. There's a word in there you said. And that explains it.

[A]

4. Yes, no, I know, but I repurpose content from Mosho all the time.

[B]

I, I'm sure you know, I would literally say it.

[A]

I would say here's a clip that I played on Mo show Facts and I. And I played it for you because I was interested in your.

[B]

Well, that's interesting you say that. And I probably would have been annoyed with mofax show if I had, if I had the time to listen to four hours of that show because it was long, very long. It was longer than our show.

[A]

But just so you know, I don't bring things up well, I feel I.

[B]

I apologized for being a dick. According to our friend here. I forgave you.

[A]

So that's.

[B]

Well, I don't. But it's the audience that I'm concerned about, not you. Cares.

[A]

We continue with a short row of ducks 222 from Claudio Sheree from Liberty Lake, Washington. And I looked donation was sent to Adamacurry.com okay, this is a mistake. You need to send it to notesoagendashow.net I believe that is made clear on our donation page. And I searched on your email and I looked in my spam boxes. I have not received this with the subject line donation and if I saw something come through with the subject line donation, I would have caught it. In fact, I do a regular search because I get a lot of email and I didn't get it. So send the note. We'll be happy to read it later. And thank you for your support. Class, you.

[B]

There. We have Shauna. Shauna Norberg in Bellingham, Washington. 217 94. No note whatsoever. And we'll give her a double up. Karma.

[A]

Yes we will.

[B]

You've got karma, sir.

[A]

Brian tobias from Gardner, Kansas 208.88. Anyway, wants respect F35 guy and traditional jobs Karma. You guys are great and I'd like to. I'd like to throw my 2 cents on the whole tick tock and recycled content bickering over the last few shows. John, I'm a fan of Adam, but the only other podcast I listened to with him is Rogan when he's a guest. So I've not heard anything discussed with Jimmy and I think to assume we are all listening to everything he does is a mistake. Adam, you and this. This is good. Adam, you may not enjoy the tick tock lunatics that John Bo brings, but I don't ever go on TikTok or even search them out on X. So this is my only exposure to the nut jobs and I love it. Fair point. Therefore, you can both work on your assumptions about the audience. And regardless, you can rest assured no Agenda will be the only podcast I never miss. Thank you for your courage, Sir Tobias and Viscount of the Chief's Kingdom. Well, he put us both in our place and I appreciate that.

[B]

R E S P I C T.

[A]

I said what in the world is this?

[B]

Jobs, Jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. Well, he's back. Eli the coffee guy And I do have a clip. I want to play a bonus clip segment. But I'm going to read this note first, then we'll play the bonus clip.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Bensonville, Illinois is where he is. He's gave in with 20115. Looks like the final domino in the West Clark Seven may finally be falling. Funny how a 20 year old clip aged well. It didn't, you know, Thing is, they were supposed to do that in.

[A]

What if I. Within five years. 2005. Yes.

[B]

Yeah, within five years we're going to do this. They didn't do grot.

[A]

Should we play the short version for a second just so people know?

[B]

Yeah, sure, why not?

[A]

West Clark 7. Make sure it's the small one, the short one. Yes. So I came back to see him a few weeks later and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan. I said, are we still going to war with Iraq? And he said, oh, it's worse than that. He said, he reached over on his.

[B]

Desk, he picked up a piece of paper.

[A]

He said, I just, he said, I just got this down from upstairs meeting the Secretary of Defense's office today. And he said, this is a memo that describes how we're going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and finishing off Iran. Yes. Unfortunately, President Trump thwarted that plan.

[B]

Yes. So we're still counting.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Anyway, he says, funny how a 20 year old clip aged better than the coverage we had. Get in real time. I don't think that's true. Thanks to no Agenda for the reminder that none of this is random. The only thing that's changed in the past two decades is that the news graphics have gotten better. I'm not even sure that's true. I think the coffee's gotten better. Yeah, I mean, I'm just have to write his own copy for it.

[A]

Yes, it has.

[B]

Just in case it pops off. Be prepared. Stock up on coffee now. You never know what ripple effects it can have on the supply chain. Visit gigawatt coffee roasters.com and use code ITM20 for 20% off your order. Stay caffeinate. Eli the coffee guy. And so I put this clip aside, waiting for Eli to come back on board here with his donations.

[A]

He had a PayPal issue, I believe.

[B]

Well, whatever it is he's got, he's getting the clip. And here it is. Is Dr. Rhonda Patch.

[A]

Drinking coffee appears to actively slow this biological aging process. Researchers found that each additional cup of coffee corresponded to about 0.12 years younger biological age. Even more strikingly, people who consumed three or more cups per day had a 34 to 41% lower chance of accelerated biological aging compared to non drinkers in a separate multi ethnic study using advanced athletes. Epigenetic clocks further supported this. So regular coffee intake correlated with roughly 0.7 to a full year reduction in epigenetic age for each daily cup consumed. I'm gonna live forever. This is, this is good news. Wow. Who. Who knew? They always say you drink too much coffee.

[B]

Councils get long tentacles.

[A]

Well, you know who also drinks a lot of coffee are the Dutch. And they look great. They look very good. All right, that's a good clip. Onward with $200 and we thank you. Andrew Seymour from Columbus, Ohio. He says, hi Adam and John. I've been a longtime listener. I'm finally reaching out to donate. This is my first installment toward becoming a knight of the no Agenda roundtable. I will include more notes with my future installments. Thank you both for keeping us on track. Please choose jingles of your choice. Choice 73s. It's a ham. Andrew Seymour, W8FLG. You know, I got a whole bunch of messages. People like, hey, Fredericksburg hams made the news. Like oh, what happened? So we have a repeater here in Fredericksburg. Two meter repeater. Two meter repeater. And the big news was that they've. It now runs completely on solar power. They're like, that's, that's reasonably cool.

[B]

That's actually a smart idea.

[A]

But then the, you look at the picture picture of the guys who are running the repeater. Not a single young person will ever enter the amateur radio hobby. When you see this picture, these guys, one's got a, you know, got a walker. I mean I love my hams, but come on people, we need some young people to represent this hobby.

[B]

It's gotta be something to do that. You're right, it was. This is, this is a long standing problem.

[A]

Yeah. And there's really no reason for it because if you look on YouTube, there's lots of young people messing around around with 2 meter gear and stuff like that. Anyway, he asked me for a random jingle. I have a new jingle which is an ode to you then for will be used in future segments. Tick tock. And in my car.

[B]

Huh. Linda Loop Atkins up. She's in Castle Rock, Colorado. Jobs karma, she's says For a competitive edge with a resume that gets Results, go to ImageMakers Inc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs. That's Image Makers Inc. With a K. And work With Linda Liu, the duchess of jobs and writer of winning resumes. 200 bucks. Jobs, jobs and jobs.

[A]

Let's vote for jobs. And we wind it up with a 200 donation from Sir Writer of Words. He comes from Redlands, California and he says, let me see, am I missing a piece of his note here? No, he just says, I also, it starts off, I also ran into the statute of limitations. Is that all? That's how his notes starts. I'm missing something here.

[B]

That is what I got.

[A]

I also ran into the statute of limitations issue after. Oh, I also ran into the statute of limitations issue after being fired for not allowing the vaccine into my life in 2020. It was a blessing. I'm a med school professor and researcher now, but I wouldn't say no to a nice settlement if any NA lawyers have a creative solution. Know what I mean? Rob Carty thanks to all of the no Agenda listeners who bought my book God's Eye View on Amazon and Audible. Yes, God Xavier talked about it. He's a PhD and is a very good book. Big thanks for all of the five star reviews. You can also check out my podcast, God's Eye View where we talk about fish, faith and science. Speaking of which, science, Adam, could you tell us a bit about God Caster? Thank you for your courage, boys. Sir Writer of Words. Well, I won't have to because you can go to Godcaster one Word FM and download the app and you'll see for yourself. And yes, you can also get the no Agenda show on it. And that is our final associate executive producer for episode 1835. Thank you all very much. We'll be thanking the rest of our students, supporters and donors and producers $50 and above in our second segment. We appreciate that you do this. Remember, these credits are the real deal. Just like Hollywood credits, people like Danny Brunetti have them. More than one. You can put it on IMDb.com and we thank you for supporting the no Agenda Show. Congratulations to these associate and executive producers.

[B]

Our formula is this.

[A]

We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Shut up slave.

[B]

Shut up slave.

[A]

So I, I just want to play a kind of a throwaway clip, but people keep sending me stuff like this and I urge you, when you see or hear one of these, one of these reports, go to the, you know, just Google the, the, the vehicle in question and look at something called performance. Sometimes it's that it'll always be listed. Endurance is another good one. This is from Rick the cyber guy who's reporting to us from ces. Are you ready for rush hour in the skies? I'm Rick the cyber guy.

[B]

Follow [e-mail] and find out why so many people get my newsletter for free. Now, this is pretty cool. Flying cars are coming faster than you think.

[A]

Check this out.

[B]

It's called the Blackbird Demonstrator by Cyclotech. It's got cyclo rotors. Imagine propellers that can push you in any direction.

[A]

That's right.

[B]

A full 360 degree control in the air and guess what? This thing can take off vertically, break midair, and even parallel park in the sky. Yeah, parallel parking in midair. I still struggle with that right here on the ground.

[A]

Plus it's super safe and stable.

[B]

Even if an engine goes out, it just keeps flying. First flight happening this quarter. Like it or not, sky traffic is on the way.

[A]

What do you think?

[B]

Are you excited or a little nervous about this stuff? Let me know in the comments below.

[A]

No, I'm not excited. For a thing that can fly 49 miles per hour, you can't be over 200 pounds and it only flies 49 miles per hour for 20 minutes. Minutes before you have to recharge. This is a useless toy until batteries improve, which I really. And please don't email because there's no proof, like, no, you know, it's improving. The Chinese, okay, no, they're not improving. They're not. It's just not improving.

[B]

Well, there is some improvement, but there's not improvement in performance, no improvement in long term stability. That's the latest.

[A]

It's the power to weight ratio that just does not work for flight. So just saying, everybody's all like, oh, look at this, it's like a drone. I can sit in my throat.

[B]

Can you imagine? Imagine a scenario. I always like to do this as a scenario, a timeline scenario where the gasoline engine wasn't invented and everything was battery powered and then suddenly somebody invents the gasoline engine which goes farther and has more energy per week weight. Everything about it. It would, it would wipe out the electric business, which it did already once, by the way, because there were electric cars early on. It would just be over.

[A]

Yeah, but no, it's all, it's all of the climate change stuff and the, and the subsidies that made that rock. So.

[B]

Subsidies.

[A]

What did I say?

[B]

You said subsidies.

[A]

Oh, subsidies. Yes.

[B]

And it is subsidies. That's what.

[A]

Oh, they're gone now. Now the subsidies are gone and that's.

[B]

The end of it.

[A]

Yes. So I, we were mentioning Iran earlier and I'm very, very pleased that our President, for whatever reason, like they were going to hang 800 people from cranes. You told me it was just one. I mean, the President had.

[B]

Well, I know there was one guy in particular they were making a big fuss about. I didn't know they're going to hang 800. I don't know there was that many cranes in Tehran.

[A]

It's asynchronous information, baby. We are just not in the know. So that was his reason, like, oh, they stopped. So I'm not going to do anything. But that doesn't mean that that isn't exactly what the true neocons want to do. They always want to bomb them, bomb them and bomb them again. And I loved seeing John the Stash Bolton. Come on M now with the Cabrera lady. And I pulled two clips for our enjoyment. You were his former national security adviser. What do you make of the President's approach toward this situation in Iran? Well, I think it's evolving in a typically incoherent fashion. You know, the chronology doesn't support Trump's view here. He was saying a few days ago that Iranian patriots, patriots should keep protesting.

[B]

Take over your institutions, he said.

[A]

When in fact the main killing was over the weekend and the protests had.

[B]

Largely subsided because the people were scared.

[A]

To death to leave their homes for what they might face from the besieging militia and other agents of the Iranian government. We don't really know what the situation is. There are 31 provinces in Iran. Communication is not good. And in any event, who cares what the regime in Tehran says? They lie quite regularly and it's, it's just a mistake to say, well, they've said they're not killing anymore. So I guess things are all right. I don't know what the President's going to do. I think we're missing a real opportunity.

[B]

Here to help the opposition overthrow this regime.

[A]

That may not be Trump's objective, but it should be, oh, what an opportunity we missed here to bomb, bomb, bomb them. To help help the so called opposition, which appears to be the crown prince, by the way. There's no evidence he's a crown prince. He's just the grandson of. He's not recognized.

[B]

That's a very good point.

[A]

Oh, it was annoying.

[B]

There's never been anything to look it up. When was he crowned?

[A]

Yeah, there's no coronation on record. And it's so funny because there was at Mar a Lago, there was a big Jerusalem prayer breakfast and Pastor Steve Berger was speaking and he was like, oh, I was going to have the crown Prince here, you know, to talk about the opposition in Iran and he had important business in D.C. so he sent us this video, sent like a 45 second video. But what really happened is Trump said, no, I've got no time for him. He seems like a nice guy, but I'm not going to meet with, with him because he's obviously an op of some, probably the British who are doing this. If there is any kind of op that's happening, it's not us. Let me play the second Bolton clip, then I'll play what I was talking about. How would the US Help the opposition overthrow the regime? Well, I think we have missed years of opportunity to help the opposition inside Iran, helping them with communication which they could desperately use at this point and other resources.

[B]

What we did help with communication who slipped into 40,000 receivers for the Starlink. But that's, we didn't, we didn't have anything.

[A]

He does, he doesn't want that. He wants the bomb. He wants the bomb. Listen.

[B]

Yeah, no, but he's just saying what he's saying is a lie.

[A]

Yeah, well, he's, he's a douche with the mustache of American boots on the ground. It's tangible support that would help the opposition get better organized. Right now I think that striking against the key elements of repression in Iran, the Revolutionary Guards besieging militia, as I mentioned, headquarters facilities, military bases, paramilitary bases, the Iran nuclear program, the missile ballistic missile production program program that would show to the regime and potential defectors within the regime that its days are numbers numbered and it would give the opposition the moral support I think they need in the face of this regime brutality.

[B]

To continue to protest.

[A]

Because we're not going to, we're not going to overthrow the regime for the Iranian people. They're going to have to be a significant part of it. I think the regime is in the weakest position it's been in since 1979. And if this latest effort by the people to get control of the government fails, we may have to wait quite some time before the next opportunity emerges. Oh, we're missing the opportunity to bomb them. So I do expect the anti war podcast crowd to talk about Bolton instead of the person you actually hate, which is the president who just restrained himself. No, I'm not falling for this gambit and I think it is a gambit gambit. The, I'm not sure, no one really knows, like 20,000 people have been slaughtered maybe, I don't know, lots of people have been killed for sure. But this to me, if not boots on the ground, it certainly smells of some kind of MI6 media operation. Like, yeah, let's get Trump over there. Let's drag him into a good idea. We'll distract him from Greenland and everything else that we don't want him to do. And so out comes the Iranian minister. I don't know what. Minister of what? I got this from Trump.

[B]

Yeah, I saw this guy.

[A]

I just pulled a little bit of a clip. Just replace everything with Mi6. The goal was to increase the number of casualties in the protests. Why? Because Mr. Trump, the president of the United States, said that if people are killed, they will come and intervene. This is clear evidence of interference in the internal affairs of other countries. We have audio recordings of messages sent from outside the country to these terrorist elements telling them, open fire while you are among the protesters. If you can shoot the police, do so. If you cannot, then shoot ordinary people. And if that is not possible, then shoot the girl or the young man directly in front of you. We possess extensive evidence and documents indicating the involvement of both the United States and Israel in this terrorist act that Israeli media outlets are full of reports claiming they are busy planning operations inside Iran. Mr. Pompeo, an influential figure who served as director of the CIA during Trump's previous term, posted a tweet saying, I congratulate the Iranians in the streets and Mossad agents walking alongside them, which constitutes a clear admission.

[B]

We, the Iranian government, demand justice for.

[A]

Everyone who was killed. In the documents we obtained, the detained rioters confessed that large sums of money were paid to them and that they were recruited through financial incentives. 80 million tomans were paid to attack each police station and to attack or bane vehicles and government vehicles. 50 million tomans. To set places on fire, 20 million toman. There are documents and confessions for each case. The money that was paid has also been seized and documented. We have the proof. Pompeo. You think Pompeo still has ties to the CIA? I don't think so.

[B]

I don't either.

[A]

I mean, if anything, and the Israelis don't want to do this. I love you. It's clearly Israelis did it for. To what end. It certainly failed them. Where's your boy Trump? Coming in there bombing for you. That's not a good op. So, no, dumb. What I was surprised to hear, and this is through the nature of transparency on blockchains, is that the Iranians, we knew that the ircg, they were using Bitcoin to buy stuff and transact. Going back to 2018, this is been known, but I came across this then. It seems like some $8 billion is held in Bitcoin, but transactions being done in oh, stablecoin. If we look at conflict countries particularly.

[B]

We'Ll take the top two right now.

[A]

That happen to be Iran and Venezuela.

[B]

What we're seeing is a huge uptick.

[A]

In stablecoin usage because their currencies are hyperinflating.

[B]

Venezuela has been for a while.

[A]

And you Iran, they have 42.4% inflation. Food inflation is over 60%. That's just happened in the last few months that it's just exploded for it. So we are seeing people try to get currency that is a little beyond the purview of the regimes that are in power that are eroding their particular buying power of their currency.

[B]

So they'd rather hold something like a.

[A]

Stable coin, particularly US dollar that's going to hold its value a lot more. And we did get a nice boots on the ground. Anonymous One of our producers who says yeah, this is really rolling out. He's at a big operation that is rolling them out and certainly in the United States, we'll replace Zell. You saw that note, didn't you?

[B]

Uh, no.

[A]

Yeah you did. You were, you were, you replied to him.

[B]

Oh, what, what did it say?

[A]

I work for a company that writes banking software. Don't mention.

[B]

Oh yeah, that guy. Yeah, yeah, that's a good note.

[A]

I'll read it. I'm unsure how public this information is. Okay, got it. We are one of the largest core providers in the nation, so he, he removed the name appropriately. Our products are often considered top tier banking software. This year we're rolling out stablecoin features to allow for customers and banks to trade in stablecoins directly with and through the their bank. We are also getting things ready for the big stablecoin rollout in the US At a meeting last week it was announced that this was coming thus this next financial year. And we're currently slated to be the first provider of such a service. Their existing integration with Coinbase and others. But this will be directly through the bank and specifically stablecoin. We also were told that we project in the next few years this is going to be how our customers, his customers are banks, move money and it's going to mean we pull back on some of our support for other services. It wasn't said but the implication was Zelle, which is a huge pain in the ass, which is true.

[B]

Zelle is a huge ass bank.

[A]

The one that we use, doesn't use.

[B]

Won'T even deal with it.

[A]

Our bank here, Guadalupe Bank In Fredericksburg, which is a hill country bank, they won't use it either, like, no, sorry, Mr. Curry, not doing that. So it's coming, but it's all for other reasons. We'll have to watch Scott the shusher besant very closely in this regard. I don't think there's much else to say about Iran.

[B]

I do have a couple things to say about Venezuela.

[A]

Yeah, let's do that.

[B]

What is this all about? Venezuela meeting with who?

[A]

Let's find out. Today, the first image of what US Officials billed as a historic meeting. CIA Director John Ratcliffe greeting interim Venezuelan.

[B]

President Del C. Russia. That handshake and Ratcliffe's trip to Caracas.

[A]

Would have been unthinkable just weeks ago, especially to visit U. S. Sanctioned nationalist politician Rodriguez, handpicked successor to captured Venezuelan president Nicolas Maduro. But a U.S. official says the meeting.

[B]

Was a sign of an improved U.

[A]

S. Venezuela relationship.

[B]

And that Venezuela must.

[A]

Block drug trafficking and provide the U.S. economic opportunities.

[B]

This has nothing to do with a.

[A]

Tension or decision between Del C. Rodriguez and myself. But in Washington today, opposition leader Maria Carina Machado urged the US to proceed with caution. Del C. Rodriguez, yes, she's a communist.

[B]

She's the main ally and representation of the Russian regime, the Chinese and Iranians.

[A]

But that's not the Venezuelan people and that's not the armed forces. Last night, Machado gifted president her Nobel Peace Prize. Only 150 have ever been awarded and one will now hang in the White.

[B]

House dedicated to President Trump's quote, principled.

[A]

And decisive action to secure a free Venezuela.

[B]

And she gave me her Nobel Prize surprise. But I'll tell you what I got to know. I never met her before and I was very, very impressed.

[A]

She's a really.

[B]

This is a fine woman.

[A]

I have the rest of that statement after your second clip because it's funny.

[B]

So Radcliffe goes to Venezuela, of course, the CIA guy. And it's like, what? There's something up. Well, and, and this was. Go ahead, I'm sorry.

[A]

No, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.

[B]

Go ahead.

[A]

I was going, you know, it's first of all, well, Machado, it's obvious, you know, anyone who receives a Peace prize got a big red flag on your head. No, You're a part of some shill system. I'm sorry, there's some truth to that. No, no. If Obama got one, who else got one? No, actually, well, let me. Let me play this 25 second clip from Trump in between your clips. Well, why align with Delphi, Rodriguez and the remnants of the Maduro regime and not with Machado, who has the support of the Venezuelan people.

[B]

Well, if you ever remember a place called Iraq where this is in my clip, you might as well drop it.

[A]

Oh, it's in your clip. Okay.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay, so.

[B]

And it's. It's a little clearer.

[A]

Okay, good, good.

[B]

Yes. And anyway, the whole thing is believe that Del C. Delri, whatever the hell her name is, she was part of the scheme to get Maduro out of there in the first place. She may be a CIA asset for all, but.

[A]

But think about it. He's over there saying, look, look, if she's an asset or not, we have our guys everywhere, so do things our way. Apparently, they deposited 500, $200 million from that shipment of oil into Qatari banks, which I think is interesting, but probably smart because there'd be some stupid judge somewhere in some blue state district who's going, we've got to block that Trump camp. Do bp. So they put it in Qatari banks. Qatar is already sending 300 million to Venezuela and they can do whatever they want. You know, fill up the grocery stores or maybe consider a different system. Them. It's just a thought. And Radcliffe's there saying, just do what we say or we kill you all.

[B]

Maybe. Okay, so let's go to part two.

[A]

That's the CIA I'm thinking about. Machado praised the President, but did not pull her punches, especially in Spanish, in her criticism of a politician whom she believes cannot deliver long term stability. There are some things that Delsey Rodriguez may be able to deliver deliver forced by power because she is terrified of President Trump. But there are things that Delsey Rodriguez or any of the members of the criminal structure will never be able to provide. Trust, rule of law, reconciliation, citizen participation and support. Never. Never. Therefore, it is not sustainable and she knows it. But if that's what she argued to the President, he was not persuaded.

[B]

Why a lie is Kelsey Rodriguez and.

[A]

The representative and not with facade left to support? Well, if you ever remember a place.

[B]

Called Iraq where everybody was fired, every single person, the police, the generals, everybody was fired. And they ended up being isis. Instead of just getting down to business, they ended up being isis.

[A]

Last month I spoke to Greybull Rescue's Brian Stern, who organized Machado's daring escape from Venezuela.

[B]

She has rock star level status every in the country.

[A]

She got on a boat and that boat was not what most people think.

[B]

It was a very small boat.

[A]

The seas were between 5 and 10ft. And now for the first time, Machado admitted she thought she would not survive the journey. So it was a very risky, dangerous, and scary moment, I have to say. And it lasted several hours. But at the end, as I said, say, you know, we, we have work moved ahead. De la mano de Dios, thanks to the hand of God. And so Machado continues her campaign to deliver democracy back to Venezuela and convince President Trump of its potential. How about this for a thought? Maduro knew this was coming. He knew the, the, the Brits and whoever else, the drug network, city of London, they were going to do regime change with this woman. And so the first thing he did is rig the election. And then he's like. Then he calls Trump and says, dude, get me out.

[B]

I'm convinced that that's. We've said this before, because when he did that video of Come and get me, Come and get me, what are you waiting for? You're a coward. That was because they were overdue to get him out of there.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. And then they, then whatever. This stage there was probably stage for the MI6 guys, like, oh, yeah, we'll get her out. We'll do it. Yeah, we got. We gotcha. We're all about it.

[B]

And that would explain why our CIA guy is in Caracas, because that sends the message, hey, look who's. Look who's in Caracas.

[A]

Who's in control.

[B]

We're getting. So the CIA guy makes it clear then. You can't make it any more clear than having the CIA head of the CIA instead of some diplomat publicly. Rubio. Technically, that may all things a message to MI6. I think this MI6 thesis that we've been developing on this show is absolutely on the money. Those guys are not helping us.

[A]

No, no, no.

[B]

Know. And they may not have been helping us for a long time.

[A]

And so. Well, go ahead. If you. This is what I love so much about watching Victoria and the Crown. Then, you know, so now we're in. Well, we're in the Suez Canal crisis even before that, where Churchill, you know, he has a stroke so he can't go over to meet. I guess it was FDR at the time. And the way they talk about the, The American President and America in general is like, we're a bunch of dumb shits. We're no good. We're stupid, don't know what we're doing. We're not sophisticated. They've never gotten over it. They've never gotten over it. We were the colony that got away and we grew up to be a big bad boy. And they still hate it. Not the British people, but the elites, the rulers, the. The royal families. Come on.

[B]

I've, I, I could. This is absolutely correct the way I see it. And I. And it's very apparent if you read the history books that I collect books. So I have old history books, Pre World War I and history books post World War I. And the attitude about the British is completely 180. The pre World War I history books that were taught to the kids in this United States States were incredibly critical of the British Empire.

[A]

Yeah. Our special relationship then.

[B]

They're our best buddy.

[A]

Yeah. When do we start with that special relationship nonsense? When did that start?

[B]

I don't know. We should do an ngram on Google. I'll look it up. See, put in the newsletter.

[A]

Yeah, because it's. We were captured. I mean, Barack Obama, President Obama. He was a British intelligent actor asset, no doubt. He's been to 10 Downing Downing street more than the prime minister in the past couple of years. I'm going to go in and get some instructions for what I got to do, what I got to say. The whole Muslim Brotherhood, remember him? The Muslim Brotherhood. The Muslim Brotherhood that was used against Nasser in Egypt during the Suez Canal crisis. By the way, if you want to understand Israel, look at the Suez Canal. Maybe you'll understand why Israel is important, huh? Sorry, I had to mock. I shouldn't be doing that. I don't mean to do that, but. Okay.

[B]

We have time for any more stuff or we're done.

[A]

If you want to do one more clip, we could, but I can do.

[B]

I only have four more clips. I can do four more.

[A]

No, no, no. Forest.

[B]

I can. Okay, you're not going to go with that. I can see what you're angling for.

[A]

No, it's just.

[B]

We can also do the roundup. Lawsuit is falling apart. We don't want to do that. That they're screwing the Hilton Hotels.

[A]

Oh, I like that. Oh, well, yeah, I know that story. Let's do something. What else you got?

[B]

Student loan fiasco, South Korea President got slammed, thrown into jail. Virginia gerrymandering. This is a short little. This gives me an opportunity to complain more.

[A]

Yes, we need more complaining. Oh. Ready? Go. Virginia lawmakers passed a constitutional amendment today that would allow the legislature to redraw voting voting maps ahead of this year's midterm elections. The vote landed along party lines in the Democratic led state Senate.

[B]

If Virginians approve the measure, it could.

[A]

Help Democrats gain as many as four seats in Congress. Before the vote, lawmakers from both sides laid out their cases. This isn't about Payback. It's about restoring and preserving balance to our system.

[B]

And I will grant that we started it.

[A]

But a number of states have stood.

[B]

Up to bad ideas.

[A]

Ideas. Earlier this week, Virginia's Democratic leaders said that a new map would be made public by the end of the month, with a referendum to follow in April. Democrats currently hold six out of Virginia's 11 seats in Congress.

[B]

All right.

[A]

I feel okay.

[B]

The guy in there that said, hey, we started it, is the Republican. And what does he mean by that? He means that Texas, which was told to redistrict by the courts, largely wasn't something that they just started to do it for no good reason. Reason or just to get rid of Jasmine Crockett. That's not starting. It was started long ago by the Democrats. There's not one Republican representative in. In Massachusetts or Connecticut or Maine or Vermont. There's not one. They're the ones who started it, not the Republican. Judoofus.

[A]

I'm going to show my support by donating to no Agenda.

[B]

Imagine all the people who could do that.

[A]

Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.

[B]

And that was a concise rap.

[A]

That was very good. It was tight. It's tight.

[B]

As we say, you want it tight instead of rambling.

[A]

It was tight.

[B]

So if I was rambling, I'd just be doing a podcast where I'm sitting there staring at a camera.

[A]

With cans. With cans. With cans.

[B]

With cans.

[A]

Yeah, we.

[B]

By the way, we have a few people to thank for show 1835, I think it is. And Adam, read them off, starting with the everything over 50.

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[B]

I have one of their swords.

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[B]

It's like a party.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, like a party. Before we get to John's tip of the day, which sometimes can save your kids toe. These tips of the day are important tips. We'd like to select what ISO we will use at the end of the show. I have two. I don't think I'll win, so I'll go first. And you've held these two in advance since the last show here forever. Here's my first one. It's unbelievable. Here's my second one. It just.

[B]

It just blows my mind. Mind.

[A]

I like that it was clear. But it's not really. Good. Let's hear what you have.

[B]

Like, starting with a stammer. Let's see what I have. I have. Well, let's do Toon Nug.

[A]

Toon soon. Tune soon.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Great. But that was over way too soon. Toon soon. Okay.

[B]

Yeah, it was over way too soon. Get it?

[A]

Yeah, I get it.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

It's best, this podcast, and these guys are the best. Let me listen again. Great. But that was over way too soon. I mean, I'm getting to the same point where by these. The voice, it. What she says is good, but it's just so fake.

[B]

You don't like her.

[A]

No, I don't. This podcast, and these guys are the best. Well, you know what I like about it? The honesty. All right, everybody, stand by. It's time for John's tip of the day. Great advice for you and me. Just the tip with JCD and sometimes Adam.

[B]

So this is a gift. That was a gift from JC who researches his gifts and products and recommendations to an extreme. My son and I got this thing. I said, oh, okay.

[A]

There's a gift he gave to you is what I'm presuming.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And he says, no, no, no. Don't take it lightly. This is a killer. And so I loaded it up, and it's indeed a killer killer. This is. This is a fluoro saw designed in Holland by an American company and made in China. Made in China. And it's called the Florasol Olivia. And this is a specific oil sprayer for olive oil specifically.

[A]

So what does fluorosol mean? What kind is that device?

[B]

It's a brand name. It's just their company.

[A]

Okay. But it's a device.

[B]

Flairosol. And then you look it up. This is. You find it on Amazon. There's a bunch of flair F L A I R O S O L. You'll find a bunch of their products on Amazon. But the Olivia, which is the. The one, is the one I have. It's the one designed specifically for a spraying olive oil. You think, well, I've seen these sprayers before. I've got a bunch of different sprays. You squeeze a button and it sprays a little bit, and you spray it on pans. If you don't want to use waste oil or you spray it over something that's been cooked with olive oil flavors, it adds that little.

[A]

Can you spray it on your salad?

[B]

You could spray it on your salads, but I think you should mix the oil in the salad dressing.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

But you could spray it on your salads. If you have some really flavorful olive oil. You want to. The spray. This thing is besides being gorgeous, it's phenomenal. The spray is not just any old spray. This is a, a, I don't, can't even describe it but the spray goes out as a, as a, as a, as kind of moon shaped kind of an ellipsis. It's a kind of an ellipsis.

[A]

It's an Archie spray.

[B]

It's very artsy and it's, it's. And it has a feel that I've never felt before in terms of the squeezing when you squeez squeeze the lever to spray. It's totally, it's a p. I'm. Anyone out there who cooks. This is just, I'm telling you, take my word for it. Or as Adam would say, trust me, this is a terrific product.

[A]

Can you.

[B]

2699. It's a little, I think that's kind of high these things.

[A]

But does it have a lever or trigger? Is it a trigger that you use?

[B]

That's a trigger.

[A]

Can it also be used in the, the bedroom if you want to spray.

[B]

Your wife with olive oil?

[A]

And there it is everybody. Find them all at no agenda fun.com or tipoftheday.net. And sometimes Adam created by Dana Brunetti. Trust me bro. Also you can always find these tips of the day on X. Nico Syme is always posting them. I think he maintains one of the websites. So it's good. These could be life saving tips everybody. Just so you know. Also good is what's coming up next on the no Agenda stream. If you're listening live in your modern podcast app or whatever you don't. You don't have to stop the. The music keeps on going as we used to say. DH Unplugged Episode 7786 Back from Vacation the boys are so stay tuned for that and end of show mixes. We have two classics. We've got the Machine Killing Machine and Donald Winkler. You'll recognize both of them if you've been around but they're good to listen to again because it's all about bombing Iran. And I'm coming to you from the heart of the Texas hill country here in Fredericksburg, Texas in the morning everybody.

[B]

I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where I remain, I'm John C. Dvorak.

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We'll be back on Thursday. Please join us for another round of media deconstruction. I'm sure something will be happening that you need to find out what's going on. And always remember [e-mail] until then, adios, mofos. Whoi hooey and such. I'm gonna, I'm gonna bomb bomb I'm.

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Gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna bomb bomb the out of I'm gonna, I'm gonna I'm gonna bomb bomb I'm gonna, I'm.

[A]

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[B]

I'm gonna, I'm gonna bomb bomb.

[A]

I'm going to bomb bomb the out of I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to bomb up I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to bomb the out of them.

[B]

We need to kill them.

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We need to kill them, bomb them, bomb them, bomb them and bomb them again. We need to kill them we need to kill them, bomb them, bomb them and bomb them again. And bomb them again. Bomb them, bomb them and bomb them again. And bomb them again. Bomb them, bomb them, bomb them and kill them Bomb them, bomb them, bomb them and kill them Bop bop bomb them again. Bop bop bomb them again. We need to kill them Bop bop bomb them again.

[B]

Bomb them again.

[A]

We need to kill them and bomb them again. This podcast and these guys are the best.