1836 - "Big Bully"

Summary

No Agenda Show Episode 1836: “Big Bully”

Date: January 22, 2026
Hosts: Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak

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Episode Overview

In this episode titled “Big Bully,” Adam and John unpack a whirlwind week dominated by the impending U.S. winter storm (“Snowpocalypse 2.0”); media fear-mongering about climate events; U.S.-Europe diplomatic gamesmanship centered around Trump’s renewed push to “acquire” Greenland; high-stakes geopolitics at Davos; the nature of U.S./NATO alliances; and a host of cultural and tech oddities, all delivered in the trademark No Agenda irreverent, deconstructive style.

The main themes revolve around:

• The “Greenland Gambit” and its diplomatic, military, and media implications,
• Davos commentary and world leaders’ posturing,
• U.S./Europe relations under Trump’s “bully” approach,
• Media failures and pundit irrationality,
• Contemporary political protests and general strikes,
• Technology’s role in media, creativity, and the AI hype cycle.

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Main Topics and Notable Segments

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1. Weather Panic & Fearmongering

[00:15 - 04:10]

• Adam laments the Texas “Snowpocalypse 2.0” hype, poking fun at local reports of “exploding trees” due to cold weather.
• John, in California, reports no sign of such panic in his region.
• Both point out mainstream media’s tendency for fear-mongering and overblown weather coverage.
• Quote:
  • Adam: “They’re just fear mongering everywhere.” [04:02]
  • John: “Exploding trees? Folks, if you hear loud cracks, stay indoors.” [03:10]

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2. Protests, General Strikes, and Curious Activism

[04:29 - 07:41]

• John describes a protest in El Cerrito Plaza, full of older women holding quirky signs like “Hands Off Greenland!”
• They lampoon generational protest culture and highlight the performative aspect of such demonstrations.
• Adam mentions similar protests in Texas, connecting the “No Kings” anti-monarchy sentiment to recent European actions.

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3. The “Greenland Gambit” & Trump’s ‘Algorithm’

[08:04 - 18:54, interspersed throughout]

• Adam details Trump’s latest diplomatic play at Davos, pushing for a “framework” (Compact of Free Association) that effectively gives the U.S. de facto control over Greenland for national security purposes.
• Clip analysis illustrates the real U.S. interest: Arctic military positioning, missile defense, and access to shipping lanes.
• They showcase how Trump deliberately provokes maximum outrage (e.g., suggesting seizure by force), then accepts exactly what he wanted all along—a classic “negotiation algorithm.”
• Quote:
  • Adam: “When will we understand the algorithm of Trump? Like, ‘I’m going to take it by force!’ So everybody freaks out, and then he gets exactly what he wants.” [09:12]
• John agrees, saying the ruse triggers the “overreaction” necessary to reach expedited deals with Europe and Denmark.

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4. Davos: Geopolitical Theater and European Hand-Wringing

[12:21 - 18:54]

• Clips and commentary from world leaders at the World Economic Forum in Davos, ranging from NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte, French President Macron (“We do prefer respect to bullies”), Belgian PM De Wever, and Canadian and U.S. officials.
• John and Adam lampoon the performative outrage, Newsom’s grandstanding, and various leaders’ attempts to frame Trump as a crude “bully” versus Europe’s supposed diplomatic sophistication.
• Quotes:
  • Macron: “We do prefer respect to bullies. Bullies we do prefer and we do prefer rule of law to brutality.” [14:05]
  • Adam (on Newsom): “He’s here hobnobbing with the global elite while his California citizens are still homeless. Shame on him. He is too smug, too self-absorbed and too economically illiterate to know anything.” [17:12]

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5. The NATO Angle & European ‘Self-Reliance’

[19:13 - 22:33]

• The episode dives into whether Europe can “defend itself” without the U.S.
• Adam airs a clip of Finland’s President exuding confidence, only to walk back his bravado under a journalist’s grilling. The hosts mock Europe’s military “assets” and the performative nature of such claims.
• They highlight the real consequences of Trump’s assertive negotiating, such as increased European NATO spending.

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6. U.S. Media, Disinformation, and Trump’s ‘Daddy’ Status

[23:58 - 26:53]

• Adam and John ridicule U.S. media’s focus on trivial Trump gaffes (“Greenland” vs. “Iceland”) and repetitive critiques from figures like Anderson Cooper and White House Press Secretary Carolyn Levitt.
• The discussion exposes the shallowness of much mainstream coverage.
• Quote:
  • Adam: “The only thing the American media could focus on… was, man, he said the wrong country.” [24:38]

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7. AI, Technology Hype, and Cultural Change

[67:13 - 77:47, scattered]

• The hosts criticize the sameness and mediocrity generated by AI art/music, predicting commodification and creative plateauing.
• They muse on the practicality and cost of hosting large AI models at home, the impact on code, and the unsolved problem of monetizing AI at scale. Google’s and Apple’s business models are discussed.
• John laments tech’s reliance on “promises, promises,” especially for energy and battery breakthroughs.

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8. U.S. Domestic: Subpoenas, General Strikes, and Minnesota Spotlight

[85:48 - 97:41]

• An extended segment breaks down federal criminal subpoenas issued to MN Governor Walz and Minneapolis Mayor Fry regarding alleged obstruction of ICE activity.
• Adam and John deride the PBS coverage and its ostensible “conservative” voices for being little more than liberal echo chambers.
• General strike activism in Minnesota linked to immigration crackdowns and political responses.
• Quote:
  • John: “They refuse to have an actual conservative voice on anything PBS does. And so everything is completely lopsided.” [87:17]

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9. Epstein Investigation Updates & Congressional Subpoenas

[102:19 - 108:41]

• The hosts cover new contempt of Congress votes against Bill and Hillary Clinton for ignoring subpoenas related to the Epstein probe.
• Analysis of legal strategy, political optics, and media handling of the scandal.
• Quote:
  • Adam: “Anything he says, he’s never gonna… outlive whatever comes out.” [108:41]

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10. Meetups, Community, Value 4 Value, and Show Culture

[113:03 onwards]

• A nod to the highly engaged No Agenda producer community: meetups, donations, in-jokes, “tip of the day” (wine tips), and the “Value 4 Value” model.
• Discuss the fun and sanity-building purposes of meetups and the crucial difference between No Agenda and other podcasts crammed with “ad load.”
• Adam and John riff extensively about show art, AI-generated podcast content, and ways for producers to contribute.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• “Exploding trees? Folks, if you hear loud cracks, stay indoors.” – Adam, [03:10]
• “They’re just fear mongering everywhere.” – Adam, [04:02]
• “When will we understand the algorithm of Trump? … and then he gets exactly what he wants.” – Adam, [09:12]
**• “We prefer respect to bullies…” (Macron) – [14:05]
• “He’s here hobnobbing with the global elite while his California citizens are still homeless. Shame on him.” – Adam, [17:12]
• “I don’t know that they’d be there for us. They’re not there for us on Iceland, that I can tell you.” – Trump (quoted), [26:15]
• “This is all a pretext to steaming in…” - Adam, on Greenland “framework deal” [55:52]
• “We’re getting ripped off by the rest of the world, particularly China.” – Adam, on Trump’s consistent message [93:53]
• “They refuse to have an actual conservative voice on anything PBS does.” – John, [87:17]
• “No advertisements, no intros, outros, or non-content sections…” – Adam, [113:03+]

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Key Timestamps / Segment Highlights

• 00:15 – 04:10 – Weather panic/fearmongering
• 04:29 – 07:41 – Protest culture and activism
• 08:04 – 18:54 – Greenland diplomacy, Trump’s negotiation style
• 12:21 – 18:54, 23:58 – 26:53 – Davos performances, European/NATO bluster
• 67:13 – 77:47 – AI/tech musings
• 85:48 – 97:41 – PBS coverage, Minnesota general strike
• 102:19 – 108:41 – Epstein/Clinton subpoenas
• 113:03+ – Producer community, V4V, meetups, and the wine tip of the day

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Memorable Show Humor and Satiric Highlights

• Mocking local “exploding trees” panic as climate schlock [03:10]
• Joking about “old ladies” leading political protests and displaying disconnected activism [05:41–06:30]
• Extended riffing on the AI-generated podcasts and “all solid-state battery” hype [85:44+]
• Derision for broadcast “ad load” and the “death spiral” of podcast monetization via intrusive advertising [148:49+]
• John’s monthly wine tip, this time featuring a $6.99 California cabernet—a perennial fan favorite [180:21+]
• AI end-of-show mixes, Adam’s mock indignation at dubious AI music, and the long-running “by the way” and “to your point” verbal tic gags [143:00+]

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Final Takeaways

• The episode incisively (and humorously) deconstructs the week’s major news themes, especially the Greenland drama, world leader melodrama at Davos, and media groupthink, all with No Agenda’s postpartisan, anti-spin sensibility.
• Trump’s “big bully” approach is revealed by Curry and Dvorak as tactical provocation followed by classic dealmaking.
• Media and pundit reactions are mercilessly critiqued, revealing the gap between performative outrage and geopolitical reality.
• Listeners are reminded that the real sanity lies in independent community, skepticism of hype, and above all, finding laughter amidst the news cycles.

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End-of-Show ISO

• “This should have won the Golden Globe.” [179:50] (humorous synthesized send-off)

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Transcript

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

It could be a cholera seed.

[A]

Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, January 22, 2026. This is your award winning Kibble Nation media assassination episode 1836. This is no agenda. Preparing for Snow Apocalypse 2.0 and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill country here in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody.

[B]

I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where all the old ladies are saying hands off Greenland, why I'm John C. Dvorak.

[A]

It's crack bot Buzz kill in the morning. Well, before we even do anything, I mean this may be the last broadcast you hear from me. This may be the last time we ever speak.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Snowpocalypse. The ice storm is coming. We are definitely all going to die.

[B]

Not here.

[A]

It has been nonstop here. Everybody's preparing. Oh you do I have a clip.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

I have a clip, but I didn't expect you to have a clip. Where's your clip? What's your clip?

[B]

Just looking at the clip list now. It's got weather mentioned in there somewhere.

[A]

Miserable weather.

[B]

Miserable weather.

[A]

A major winter storm is taking shape, expected to bring the season's coldest air to date. It comes global warming. Many communities are already getting lashed by severe winter weather. Here's the report. I wish it would stop. I think we're pushing 20 inches, 21, 22 inches. Residents in upstate New York digging out after a lake effect snowstorm dumped more than 20 inches amid brutal winter weather. We're going to get it for 24 hours straight for sure. That lake affects snow causing whiteout conditions. Authorities responding to multiple crashes on Interstate 90 involving roughly 60 vehicles over a six mile stretch of highway. Officials said there were multiple jackknife tractor trailers as well as passenger vehicles that were struck. Authorities had to divert traffic and shut down all westbound lanes of the interstate. The brutal winter weather is set to get worse for many with the most extreme winter storm so far this season forecast to slam the eastern half of the US with damaging ice and heavy snow. The storm, fueled by a blast of arctic air, is to hit the Midwest and Plains Thursday into Friday, then spread into the south and east this weekend. Communities in the storm's path are bracing for snow, sleet and freezing rain, a dangerous wintry mix that could stretch more than 1,000 miles from Oklahoma and northern Texas to North Carolina and Virginia by Saturday night. Salt shipment is very important. We were starting to get low from all we've had.

[B]

So many different places is using salt.

[A]

Right now, especially up north it's getting kind of hard to get. Yeah. Okay, so they had the east coast and northern Texas, but they were, they were, they were predicting it. Hill country power lines are going to snap. And this is my favorite. This actually started, I think, with Mimi's boy. Max Velocity. Max Velocity. This is a local report. Extremely cold temperatures tonight. Please watch out for exploding trees.

[B]

What?

[A]

Exploding trees? Folks, if you hear loud cracks, stay indoors. Yes, exploding trees expected.

[B]

Loading these trees up with dynamite.

[A]

Well, the idea, and I love those gnat pops, that's why I selected that clip. The idea is that when it gets so cold, although I went through this in Austin, was it now five years ago, we didn't see any exploding trees. But the SAP gets, the SAP freezes and then it expands and the bark explodes right off of it. This is bull crap. That's not gonna. And you know what? They've been warning us for the whole week. I guarantee you. Maybe, maybe, maybe Sunday.

[B]

I'm looking at the map and I don't see you guys getting much at all.

[A]

They're just fear mongering everywhere.

[B]

But the east coast will be. And it's gonna hurt the show. Well, we're gonna have low numbers today too.

[A]

Who cares about life and limb. It's hu. That's the most important thing.

[B]

It is.

[A]

It can't hurt the show. Well, nothing can hurt this show. And I would have to say among all.

[B]

Before you go off on that, I got to talk about some stuff I saw locally.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Because you didn't realize and we forgot to remind people that the 20th and there were clips that we've had was supposed to be a general strike.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Similar to blackout, if you remember that one.

[A]

Yes, of course.

[B]

The one before that where nobody did jack.

[A]

That the no jackout. Yeah.

[B]

There was a protest and it was in the area here around the El Cerrito Plaza.

[A]

Wait a minute, wait a minute. The El Cerrito Plaza, is that like a strip mall or what?

[B]

Yeah, no, it's kind of an old fashioned, really old fashioned mall in El Cerrito. And there was for all four corners of the main drag, the San Pablo Avenue and the plaza had protesters who I went by, took some photos, I might add them in the next newsletter.

[A]

Wait a minute, wait a minute. Troll room is saying it's supposed to be the 23rd. That would be tomorrow.

[B]

Well, it doesn't matter what day it is, but I thought it was the 20th because the 20th was the day that was the anniversary of Trump's inauguration and it was the big deal. And There was. The protests were out. And they were all people in their 70s.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And a couple of kids. Because it was a working day and people like Mimi's are floating around and she says there's no protesters in Berkeley, but in the retirement cities like El Cerrito, there was a bunch of old women and they had stupid signs. And one, my favorite one, which I couldn't stop laughing when I saw it, I'd say there's about 100 people, which is quite.

[A]

That's more than expected.

[B]

Yeah, it was a good sized crowd. And they're all. Everyone's honking, you know, honk, honk, honk. You know, how you doing? And. But there's one old lady holding the sign that said Old Lady, 75, 80, holding the sign that said hands off Greenland. And I'm thinking, what the hell? She been to Greenland? Is she some. Is she a Greenlander?

[A]

Even funnier. There was a sign someone put into a. Into a hillside in Greenland, which, as we know, is protectorate of Denmark, that said no kings. That Denmark literally is a monarchy. How stupid are these people?

[B]

No, that's what they were saying. That was sincerity.

[A]

We have that.

[B]

They want Denmark out. Denmark has tried to.

[A]

Oh, that's what they were saying.

[B]

Stop.

[A]

Stop sterilizing our young girls.

[B]

They sterilized. There's a genocide.

[A]

Eugenics. Yeah. We have that in Dripping Springs. And if you go to Austin, you kind of by default have to go through Dripping Springs and. Right. And it's been going on for months. You drive.

[B]

Is that like a gonorrhea place or what?

[A]

It's the gateway to the hill country. They have on their water tower. And there's the same kind of type of character. Because honestly, who else has time during the day to stand at the intersection of downtown Dripping Springs with no kings? You know, all. It's all the same. No king. They're still. They still think no kings is a thing.

[B]

They'll catch up.

[A]

So I have. I have been just enjoying myself here at the house with the. And by the way, I've been corrected. I always thought it was Davo, but it is the. It's Davos is the correct pronunciation because it is German. German speaking Switzerland. I didn't realize that. So, Davos.

[B]

I enjoyed you saying Davos.

[A]

I'm not allowed to. People get on my. You know, what do you say? It's Davos, man. Okay, gotcha. I'm here for you. And your no Agenda show, I think, came closest to the actual Greenland gambit, as we had discussed that the most obvious way to achieve what President Trump wants is through a so called compact of free association. That is exactly what it seems. What is going to happen? It's called a framework. A framework. And it is just amazing how all of, I mean, here's my takeaway. And then there's a lot of stuff we can do. President Trump definitely wants to have big, beautiful ships and his six icebreakers up there in the Arctic and maybe put an aircraft carrier in the GI UK gap, whatever. He knew that if he just said I want to do this, that all of the EU people would start moaning and groaning and making all kinds of problems about it and meetings and shaking their fists. So instead he just pulled this typical. It's like, when will we understand the algorithm of Trump? Like, I'm going to take it by force. So everybody freaks out. Everybody freaks out. And then he gets exactly what he wants. This was explained by Commerce Secretary Lutnick this morning on Bloomberg. What did we say? We said we cared about it for national security, right? We said we care about it for national security. I mean, it's obvious we care about it for national security. Because if you're going to build a golden dome over the United States of America, right, wouldn't you prefer the golden dome cover Greenland? So when you're knocking out the missiles, you're not knocking them out right over your head. Like we've all seen Israel, like knocking out the missiles right over their head with their iron dome. Wouldn't you prefer to knock out the missiles if you live on the east coast of the United States over Greenland, a couple of thousand miles away where there's no people? Right. Doesn't that sound better? So this is sort of where we're thinking about it and how our national security team is thinking about it. So what's actually in the framework? Well, the framework is a national security based framework that that's what the United States cares about. We care about our national security and we care about the shipping lands. So let's talk about the national security and shipping lanes and let's see if we can't figure out a framework to do that together. Exactly. And I think that's what the President truthed about. He said we're going to try to figure that out together because those were the key points that the United States of America cared about.

[B]

And I think the President's been clear.

[A]

About it and he just wants people at the table dealing with it swiftly. I mean, think about this. He sends out a truth, truth and like within four days, right? We have a framework Agreement like that's by the way, we had tariffs on, tariffs off. They were never on. They were never on. The threat of them are coming on for February 1st. What does this do now for the agreement you and your team struck with Brussels? Because the legal implementation has now been put on hold. Oh, I think it'll be put on hold probably tomorrow. I mean, come on. That's why I said it's an overreaction. I mean, they know when the President, President says this is what's going to happen. I mean, what provoked the president. What provoked the president was that they sent military people to Greenland. I mean, they didn't send military people to Ukraine. Like, why are they sending military people to Greenland? You know, it was so. It seemed like a provocation. Yeah. So Lutnik is kind of a jam oak. But that is exactly what, what they wanted. And the only type of framework that exists really in diplomacy or in, in international relations is, you know, you have a couple of options, but the main one which we're familiar with is the compact of free association. And that's what we're going to get. And so instead of months or weeks of people moaning and groaning and blocking it wherever they can, going to the International Criminal Court, whatever they would do, he just went off the rails. I think this is classic Trump.

[B]

And you know, I think I agree with that. And I do have a clip from Ruta.

[A]

Oh, I have several from Ruta.

[B]

Well, I want to play this one. This is him praising Trump at Davos.

[A]

Yes, this is a classic. I'm not popular with you now because I'm defending Donald Trump, but I really believe he can be happy that he is there because he has forced us in Europe to step up, to face the consequences, that we have to take care more of our own defense. And here's my question to the audience. I mean, many of you I know criticize Donald Trump, but do you really think that is how Donald Trump. Eight big economies in Europe, including Spain and Italy and Belgium, Canada, by the way, also outside Europe, would have come to 2% in 2025 when they were only on 1.5% at the beginning of the year?

[B]

No way.

[A]

Without Donald Trump, this would never have happened. They're all on 2% now. Do you really think that in the summit in the Hague, as already, Alex was saying, sorry, the President of Finland was saying that we would come to a Overall defence spending of 5%, including 3.5 in core defense, if President Trump would not have been re elected as President of the United States?

[B]

No way.

[A]

It would never have happened. So again I'm not popular with you now because I'm defending Donald Trump but I really believe you can be happy that he is there because he has forced us in Europe to step up to face the consequences that we have to take care more of our own defense. So it was so wonderful to me this is award show level except award shows are now boring and dull. But if you listen to, and these are just very short. If you listen to the pre Trump Davos speeches speech, this is the kind of stuff you were hearing on the red carpet. We do prefer respect to bullies. Bullies we do prefer and we do prefer rule of law to brutality. So that was Macron by the way.

[B]

Yeah, Macron. He's bitching about bullies with two black eyes from his wife Bob.

[A]

It was a McCrone Brothers spat apparently. And by the way, if you, if you have to wear shades to, to cover your. I don't think the blue mirror shades is the choice I would go with. There's other, other types of glasses. Here's Carney of Canada. We stand firmly with Greenland and Denmark and fully support they're uni.

[B]

Stand with Greenland. Future stand with Greenland.

[A]

Here's the Belgium prime minister De Wever. At the moment we're dependent on the United States so we chose to be lenient. But now so many red lines are being crossed that you have the choice between your self respect. Being a happy vessel is one thing, being a miserable slave is something else. The message that we have to send. You're crossing red lines here. We either stand together or we will stand divided. If we are divided, there is the end of an era of 80 years of Atlantism is really drawing to a close. And you know, as Gramski said, if the old is dying and the new is not yet born, you live in a time of monsters.

[B]

Monsters.

[A]

And it's up to you to decide. He wants to be a monster, yes or no? He's a monster. He's a monster. He's a monster, I tell you. And of course everybody's favorite this clip went around. Governor of California Gavin Newsom enters the scene. Oh big Tugger. I can't take this complicity. People rolling over. I should have brought a bunch of knee pads for all the world leaders. I mean handing out crowns and handing out this is pathetic. Crowns playing folks for fools and it's embarrassing. Europeans think this is diplomacy and this will alter diplomacy with Donald Trump. He's a T. Rex. You mate with him or he devours you. You and so what Crown. I don't know what they're talking about.

[B]

No, him. What is he talking about? I know what he's talking about. He has no crown. Nobody gave him a crown.

[A]

But contrasting him with our Shusher Scott Shusher Bessant. Shushing down the slopes. Hey, boys, here I am. Got something to say about Gavin. I think it's very, very ironic that you know Governor Newsom, who strikes me as Pat Patrick Bateman meets Sparkle Beach Ken. I had to. I didn't know who Patrick Bateman was. I had to look it up. Was a little esoteric.

[B]

American Psycho.

[A]

I know. I didn't realize he was the. The psycho. Stock guy, right? From Wall Street. In American.

[B]

Yeah. And he looks just like Newsom.

[A]

He does look like Newsome. That was a good one. Breaks me as Patrick Bateman meets Sparkle Beach Ken. Maybe the only Californian who knows. And it's only. It's kind of extra funny when Bessant talks about Sparkle Beach.

[B]

Kenny wrote that for him.

[A]

It's good.

[B]

Written by a pro.

[A]

I don't care. It's good. Meet Sparkle Beach Ken may be the only Californian who knows less about economics and Kamala Harris. He's here this week with his billionaire sugar daddy, Alex Soros. And the Davos is a perfect place for a man who, when everyone else was on lockdown, when he was having people arrested for going to church, he was having thousand dollar a night meals at the French Laundry. And I'm sure the California people won't forget that.

[B]

Hold on a second. It's $1,000 a plate, not thousand dollars a night. He blew that joke.

[A]

Give him a little leniency. This is not his wheelhouse at all. Or is it? Maybe it is.

[B]

Maybe he wants it to be.

[A]

He was having thousand dollar a night meals at the French Laundry. And I'm sure the California people won't forget that. And I can tell my message to Governor Newsom is the Trump administration is coming to California. We are going to crack down on waste, fraud and abuse. And I was told he was asked to give a speech on his signature policies, but he's not speaking because what have his economic policies brought? Outward migration from California, a gigantic budget deficit, the largest homeless population in America, and the poor folks in the Palisades who had their homes burned down. He is here hobnobbing with the global elite while his California citizens are still homeless. Shame on him. He is too smug, too self absorbed and too economically illiterate to know anything. Thank you very much. Let me know if you need any further Clarification.

[B]

Yeah, no, it was good.

[A]

I had to say it was dynamite. So.

[B]

And, and he was somehow tabled. Newsom was not allowed to speak. Oh yeah, he was just in the audience. Well, like the Stooges.

[A]

It's Larry. Larry's in charge of the whole deal.

[B]

Yeah, Larry Fink.

[A]

I'm sure A call went out. Larry, not a newsome. Okay, Both. Now, that ruta clip you played was from a panel or they had 18 chairs next to each other. And it was very interesting to hear the president of Finland. Alexander. Alexander.

[B]

Was he kidding?

[A]

And here's what he had to say. Well, I mean. Two answers. First is a direct answer to the question of this panel. Can Europe defend itself? My answer is unequivocally yes. Without the Americans. Without the Americans. I mean, how? Well, look, but you're relying on them for these key elements. How would you do it at scale and at duration? Listen to his. Oh, we can do. We can defend it without America. We can do that. Just listen to the stuff we got, man. With an assumption that the United States would cut off completely any kind of work. Well, if we look at the defense, composure of Europe, by and large, in a country like Finland.

[B]

Defense, by and large.

[A]

Defense, composure, composure.

[B]

He meant composition.

[A]

That's what I think too. So how do we do it? We have conscription. One million have done it. Come on, boys and girls, you're going to fight the Russians.

[B]

We have cannon fodder.

[A]

I hope no one heard that. We can mobilize 280,000 soldiers within weeks. We have 62 F18s. The next question is going to be, do they fly without Americans? No, they don't. But do we trust that they will continue to fly because it's in the interest of America to do so. Yes. We just bought 64 F35s. We have the biggest artillery in Europe together with Poland. We got guns. We have long range missiles, land, sea and air. We don't have this because we're worried about Stockholm. Right. So the bottom line is that if you ask me the question that can the Finnish military defend itself against a Russian attack? The whole defense posture of the way in which you do it.

[B]

Yes, we can.

[A]

Okay, so then about 10 minutes later, she comes back to him and then all of a sudden he forgot what he said. President Stubbe, I'd like to ask you as well. The US administration has made it very clear we are in an e of hard power and they will wield it where they feel it is advantageous or necessary. You said earlier that Europe can Defend itself without the Americans if it comes down. Not exactly. That's not a quote. Yeah, it was more or less. Yeah. He's like, we'll go back to the transcript. More or less.

[B]

Go back to the transcript and read it back to him.

[A]

No, listen to what he says. We'll go back to the transcript. More or less. More or less. I love journalists. Stupid. There's riches saying you did a stoop. As in stupid. He's like, oh, journalist. I love them. They. They listen to my words and then they throw them in my face. This is not good. With this big goofy smile. That was. That was like, wow. No. The only EU leader who was honest was Mr. Peepers. Did you hear his speech?

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No, I did not. I missed it. You have it for us?

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I have a relevant clip. We are aware of those problems. Both Germany and Europe have wasted incredible potential for growth in recent years by dragging feet on reforms in unnecessary, unnecessarily and excessively curtailing entrepreneurial freedoms and personal responsibility. We are going to change that now. Security and predictability take precedence over excessive regulation and misplaced perfection. We must reduce bureaucracy substantially. In Europe, the single market was once created to form the most competitive economic area in the world. But instead we have become the world champion of over regulation. That has to end. Wow. I'm like, okay, Germany, talk. You know, it's talk. But that's what this. It's all talk. But I. I thought that was brave of him. Mr. Peepers, stand up and say, hey, it sucks what you guys have built is no good. And they're the ones that actually are spending the most on borrowing to spend on military. But let's come back to America. I know you have a couple of clips with analysis. I'd like to start us off with everybody's favorite Anderson Pooper. He complained as well about his reception.

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In Davos from allies he'd just been threatening with tariffs and the potential breakup of NATO over Greenland.

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They called me Daddy, right? Last time. Very smart man, said, he's our daddy. He's running it. I was like, running it. I went from running it to being a terrible human being. But now what I'm asking for is a piece of ice cold and poorly located that can play a vital role in world peace and world protection. It's a very small ask compared to what we have given them for many, many decades. So the only thing the American media could focus on, because I was watching the quad screen as it all happened, was, man, he said the wrong country. The President repeated his false statement yesterday. About NATO not coming to this country's.

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Aid, which it famously did after 9.

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11 and for decades after in Afghanistan, also Iraq. Hold on. I just need to stop that for a second. The Nordic troop contributions to Iraq, famously, I looked the numbers up, and Denmark actually provided the most. 545 troops. Thank you. Thank you, Denmark. And they did lose seven soldiers. Greenland contributed zero. Iceland contributed zero. So, you know, to say they famously came to our aid in Iraq is a bit of an overstatement. They also confused Greenland and Iceland several times until the last few days. When I told them about Iceland, they loved me. But the problem with NATO is that we'll be there for them 100%. But I'm not sure that they'd be there for us if we gave them the call. Gentlemen, we are being attacked. We're under attack by such and such a nation. I know them all very well. I'm not sure that they'd be there.

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I know we'd be there for them.

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I don't know that they'd be there for us. So with all of the money we expend, with all of the blood, sweat, and tears, I don't know that they'd.

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Be there for us.

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They're not there for us on Iceland, that I can tell you. I mean, our stock market took the first dip yesterday because of Iceland. So Iceland's already cost us a lot of money. White House Press Secretary Carolyn Levitt tried to correct a reporter who called attention to the Greenland Iceland land confusion, saying.

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Quote, his written remarks refer to Greenland.

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As a piece of ice, because that's what it is.

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Okay.

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Nice spin, Carolyn. Okay. Yeah, he messed it up as obvious, but the intent was in the brain. He did have ice on the brain. You want to play a couple of your responses?

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Well, let's start off with the real reason behind all this, which you wanted me to dig up. So I dug up the first part of this anyway.

[A]

Oh. Oh, yes. I'm so happy you have the clip. Yay.

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Yeah, this is the. There was a link to one of the presentations, if you look, if anyone got the newsletter, which a lot of people didn't get.

[A]

Oh, no, but they.

[B]

Including Matt at Martell.

[A]

Martell Hardware.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

No, no, that's no good. So.

[B]

But there was a link.

[A]

Did he forget to donate subsequently?

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I don't know. I haven't looked at the spreadsheet. Okay. But it's. Anyway, the point is, is that there was a. There was a good link to a long lecture about this in the newsletter. If you clicked on the image of the tweet you would have taken right to it. And this is this, this is the guy that triggered the whole thing. This is one of these ufologists, and here he is talking about this.

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Now, how many of you know about the object in Greenland? A couple of you. Okay, well, would you. For those of you that don't know, there is a spacecraft that has melted out of the ice in Greenland. As you know, the North Pole has melted completely. You can go from London to Moscow or to Russia by going over the North Pole.

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Now, right away. Bull crap.

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All the ice cap is gone. The last place that has ice on it was Greenland. Greenland had a 18,000 foot ice cap on it. Well, the spacecraft that is anchored in the center of Greenland created the last ice age 50,000 years ago. Okay, weather machine. It's a weather machine 55 miles wide, 300 miles long and 2 miles high. People that lived in it were called the Moise. You draw a straight line from the spacecraft to the Washington monument in Washington D.C. through the Yucatan Peninsula, Great Pyramid. Wait a minute. Does he bring in the freemasons at any point? Because I'm expecting it in this. That's good.

[B]

No, unfortunately at Mitsubuchi it ends up.

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On Easter island where the mo have.

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Been dug out of it.

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The heads on Easter Island. Well, two years ago they finally went ahead and they excavated and they're all 85, 65 to 85 foot people, full body carvings. And these were the people that lived in the spacecraft that was uncovered that's melting out of the ice in dreamland. So when you think we've been allowing these people have been up there for 50,000 years. The spacecraft is still active after 50,000 years. It has a 200 mile dampening field where no electrons can flow into it. In 1947, a B52 bomber flew into that pattern into the dampening field when trying to fly between Maine and London. As a result of that, they lost power and crashed in Greenland as they said, sent in Rescue B52 bombers to rescue them. They hit that same dampening field, but they, they, they veered off. They just ricocheted off of it by testing, trying to get to these guys. They were able to bring a circumference and find out that there was an object 200 miles to the center of this field. Man, there is a career for me. Does this guy get a big audience?

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I don't know. I didn't show the audience, but I'm sure they were lapping it up. That's a good. It was a good bit. He went on. He went on and on and Talked about the CIAs had access to the thing they're getting. All our technology comes from this object.

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Oh, okay. All right. So we already have the technology. We don't need to have the saucer if we already have the technology.

[B]

Well, I don't know. Maybe we'd have to lock something down. I have no idea. Well, don't want China and Russia getting the technology.

[A]

Yeah, we don't. We can't have them getting that technology. No. Hey, thanks for bringing the second half of show early. That's great.

[B]

All right, so we. So we go on from that. With that in mind. Yes, we'll go on to. Let's start with the npr. Well, this is. I can do the analysis clips. This is npr. I got two clips, NPR talking about the. About the. Whatever this deal is.

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President Trump arrived at the World Economic. Which one do you want? You got three clips, actually. You have.

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Yeah, the one is. Just one is the BS deal. Just play the. Skip the BS deal and go with analysis. Analpr.

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President Trump arrived at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, today. His insistent push for the US to own Greenland has captured the world's attention. And he made news at this forum, ruling out, at least for now, the use of military force. We probably won't get anything unless I decide to use excessive strength and force. Wow. What kind of feed did they have?

[B]

Yeah, you know, I noticed this. It was like, Dave, this is really a bad. All their clips of Trump are terrible now. I don't know if they're doing it on purpose.

[A]

I had good audio. I don't know.

[B]

Yeah, and you had good product. I don't know what the problem was.

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Where we would be, frankly, unstoppable, but I won't do that. Okay. Now everyone's saying, oh, good. That's probably the biggest statement I made because people thought I would use force. I don't have to use force. I don't want to use force. I won't use force. Trump also ended up backing down from an earlier threat of higher tariffs on eight European countries. We're joined now by NPR's senior White House correspondent Tamara Keith, who's been monitoring Trump's remarks from Washington. Hi, Tam. Hey, Elsa. Okay, let's start with Greenland. It's a territory of Denmark, which is, of course, a member of NATO. Denmark's a U.S. ally. How did Trump today re. Explain his desire for the US to take over Greenland? Well, he said it is in the Western Hemisphere and is strategically Important for US national security. He insisted the US Is the only country with the strength to defend it, develop it, and improve it. He called for immediate negotiations to discuss U.S. acquisitions. And all we're asking for is to get Greenland, including right title and ownership. Because you need the ownership to defend it. You can't defend it on a lease. He called this a very small ask, but in fact, it has caused a major rift with US Allies in Europe. And this would be a good time to note that NATO has a mutual defense agreement. And the only time it has been invoked was after 9, 11 when European countries helped the United States. That's right. That's right. But they never mentioned the numbers, which was pretty small.

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Yeah, they had a couple of people.

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Help, and they also had Bond air base.

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And the French sure didn't help. We had to. We got mad at them and called them freedom fries. We mentioned all the time on the show.

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Yes.

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So that's bull crap. Okay, let's go.

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Is it fair to say that the U.S. commitment to NATO has been totally thrown into question by President Trump's Greenland request? Yeah. You know, Trump has long played coy with his commitment to NATO and has often been quite crit critical of other countries in the alliance. And now, with Greenland at center stage, leaders of longtime US Allies are very openly questioning the reliability of the United States. Meanwhile, in this Davos speech, Trump called both Denmark and Canada ungrateful and questioned the value of the alliance to the US I don't know that they'd be there for us. They're not there for us on Iceland, that I can tell you. I mean, our stock market took the first dip yesterday because of Iceland. So Iceland's already cost us a lot of money. So there are two notable things about that clip. The President repeatedly said Iceland when he meant to say Greenland, which the press then denied ever happened. And Trump also showed his hand a bit. The markets have not reacted well to his Greenland escalation. And he is very sensitive to the markets. In fact. Hold on, hold on a second. Second. This is. When was this broadcast? Because the minute the market was like minus 600 on the futures, and the minute he started talking, it just boomed right back up. Were they watching the market or they're just saying this?

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They're just saying it.

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Okay. And he is very sensitive to the markets. In fact, stocks rose today on news that President Trump was ruling out the use of military force. I'm glad you clarified there, Tam, because I was confused by his mention of Iceland. Okay. We also mentioned that Trump backed Down from. There was smoke coming out of my ears. I did not.

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Confused. I was confused.

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Rose today on news that President Trump was ruling out the use of military force. I'm glad you clarified there, Tam, because I was confused by his mention of Iceland. He also mentioned that Trump backed down from an earlier threat of higher tariffs. I saw that Trump wrote in a social media post that he had a framework for some sort of future deal on Greenland. Do we know what that framework looks like and how it came about? Yeah. The NATO Secretary General, Mark Ruta, has been something of a Trump whisperer in this second term, largely by piling on praise. And the two met just hours after Trump's speech. And with cameras rolling, Ruta told Trump it pained him to think that the president doubted NATO's commitment to the U.S. trump now says they have a concept of a deal, though there was no mention of the US Actually owning Greenland, as he had been demanding. He dodged questions about that, simply saying it would be an infinite deal. Deal. Yes. Forever. A forever deal got cut off. Yeah.

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I don't know why. Yeah, Infinite. But what was the deal? I don't think there was a deal. I think Trump's just going to.

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Oh, no, no. Well, I have Rutte on Bloomberg also from this morning. And the title of the video was mark Rutte details the framework deal. Are you ready to listen to the detailing?

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Yeah, this should be good. Yeah.

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On the podium saying that he wanted that big, beautiful block of ice, goes into a room with you and he says he has a framework for a deal. What did you do? President Trump has been clear from when he was in office, some 45. Also when he came back into office, Trump, 47, that when it comes to the protection of the Arctic with a priority in Greenland, we spend more energy, more time, more focus on this because the sea lanes are opening up. The Chinese and the Russians are more and more active. So what we discussed last night, how in a practical sense we can get this done. And we agreed on these two tricks. One is the seven countries in the high north, including the United States, working together to protect against any adversary. So that will be something where NATO is heavily involved. And then when it comes to guinea specifically continuing the discussion, discussions they started last week, the Danish delegation, Secretary Rubio, Vice President Fence in Washington to continue that discussion. Also to make sure that when it comes to Greenland, specifically their economy, their military situation, Russia and China will never get access. So the only key thing I heard there was the seven Arctic nations. So it could be like a subset of NATO or Or the north, you know, we call it the North Arctic Treaty Organization. And then Rutte had a second piece to this and the Danes and sovereignty, is that all assured? We didn't discuss at all about that issue. So we discussed how can we protect Greenland, how can we protect the wider Arctic region. And again, I think President Trump was the one who reinvigorated nature at the summit in the Hague, which famous 5%. I think we can be thankful for the fact that he again has been able to take leadership on this issue. How can we collectively protect the Arctic? The latest rumors out there that it will be involved sort of bigger, bigger bases, longer leases, but not actually changing sovereignty. And the idea of far more American troops. Is that the sort of basis of it? We didn't go into those details at all. We know that the Danes are completely open to having more American presence in Greenland and Greenland is open to that. And I think it is good that these discussions take place with the three of them because at the end I cannot negotiate on behalf of anyone. I was listening to a lot of people. I think there is a landing ground here. But in the end, of course, now we have to make it happen. Yeah, it's what he wanted all along. He just wants just let me put my big beautiful ships there, let me put the destroyers, some of the big beautiful new destroyers, put the aircraft carrier up there and he put some subs up there. He knew that if he just said I want to do that, there would have been endless conversation and nonsense. It just seems clear the whole thing was a Trump algo. I'm going to kill everybody. But really I just want to pet your head.

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Kill everybody. So yeah, he's a madman. So this has a lot to do with the so called Polar Silk Road.

[A]

Oh for sure.

[B]

And so they had, they can't let this, you know, that the Chinese run.

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The place, especially not if Canada wants some of that. Which it more or less announced. The judge, Knapp, who hates Trump and every one of his guests hates Trump, had a funny clip of.

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Yeah, I'd like to get to the bottom of when that came about. Trump must have had something to do with Knapp getting kicked off box.

[A]

That or maybe Knapp thought he was going to be a Supreme Court judge. You know, I think he.

[B]

Oh brother.

[A]

Don't you think that's something like that?

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Now that you mention it, I recall.

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There was some talk of that at some point. Maybe I'm, maybe I'm confusing it with someone else. But he hates him. But he did find a funny Clip from the House of Commons. Here's the reaction on the floor of the House of Commons to his latest statements. This is yesterday. This is a leading member of Prime Minister Stormer's party. He's not exactly Anthony Wedgwood. Ben pleading for the plight of the Palestinians. He doesn't have that passion, but it's very clear what his point is. Chris, cut number 16. Madam Deputy Speaker, President Trump is acting like an international gangster, threatened to trample over the sovereignty of an ally, threatening the end of NATO altogether, and now threatening to hit our country and seven European allies with outrageous damaging tariffs unless he gets his hands on Greenland. The President of the United States is attacking our economy, our livelihoods and our national security. Wait a minute. I thought tariffs only hurt the people in the country. Who put the tariffs on? For some reason they seem to think that tariffs will hurt them. This is interesting. The only people cheering him on are Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping. We have to finally be clear eyed about the sort of man Trump is and treat him accordingly. He is a bully. Grab whatever he wants, using force if necessary. And he is corrupt. The most corrupt president the United States has ever seen. Two ways of getting him to back down. Bribing him with a new jet perhaps, or a few billion. His crypto account. Or standing up to him like we would with any other bully. Bully. He's a bully.

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I.

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You tell, tell. But this the uk. So I have to play this clip because it flows into something else I've been tracking and this is very typical of the type of Instagram ladies that are being sent to me by my friends in the UK And I love my friends in the uk, but man, they all hate Trump. They think he's a bully. He doesn't. He's a bully. He just wants another jet. He just wants more crypto in his account. This is a liberal white lady reading a British Facebook post. The whole thing was like five minutes. So I cut it down. You know, it's like a minute and a half. Somebody posted this on Facebook and you've got to hear it. I wish I knew the author because I want to give them credit. All right, let's call this what it is. Perfectly timed economic judo. And Trump just ran face first into the mat. While Trump is over there banging his favorite broken toy tariffs like a toddler with a plastic hammer on a coffee table. The EU quietly did something grown ups do. They signed a massive free trade deal. Mercosur. That's been 20 plus years in the making. 20 years. That's patience. That's planning, that's not. I woke up angry and threatened half the planet on social media. And the timing? Chef's kiss. Trump rolls out his shiny new 10% tariffs, then threatens 25% tariffs like he's upping the ante at a poker table while everybody already knows he's bluffing. He's targeting EU countries because they dare to say no. Mate, you don't get to just muscle Greenland like it's a Monopol property. So what does Europe do? Do they panic? Do they tweet? Do they throw a tantrum? No, they say, cool. While you're busy with tariffs, we'll just lock in one of the biggest free trade zones on earth with South America. While he's playing checkers with tariffs, Europe's playing long term chess with supply chains while he's yelling America first, Europe saying, fine, mine will trade elsewhere. And that's the real blow here. Not the headlines, not the symbolism, the fact that when those 10 and 25% tariffs land, Europe's going to feel them a lot less than Trump thinks. And that's impeccable timing. That's what impeccable timing looks like. No shouting, no theatrics, just a quiet, coordinated move that leaves the bullies swinging at air. Trump wanted to show straight Europe just showed competence. And competence always wins in the end. So this has been the. This, yeah, this has been the common message, like the eu, they took their time, they worked in this Mercosur deal for 25 years, and this is the biggest trade deal in the eu. They're smart, they take their time, they are diplomats, they know how to do it. But, oh, what just happened this morning? European Union lawmakers have voted to challenge the legality of a newly signed trade deal with the South American bloc Mercosur. This Wednesday, MEPs narrowly approved sending the agreement to Europe's top court to rule on whether it's in line with the bloc's treaties. Brussels signed this deal with MERCOSUR members just on Saturday. Well, to talk more about this, we can bring in Armen Georgian, our Europe editor. Armen, to what extent does this represent a blow for this deal? Well, the deal is not dead, but it's certainly at the moment on life support. Is what we call that much on hold because the European Court of Justice has to rule whether it's compatible with the EU treaties. Exactly. These things never happen. The EU is one big bureaucracy. That's the whole point of what Trump did. He didn't want to go through all this nonsense, man. It's like did they never read Art of the Deal or was it was too dumb? Oh, that's just a stupid book. I don't read. I don't read orange books. This is new goods. New goods. Good. Then we have Professor Jeffrey Sachs, I would say another Trump hater. And.

[B]

Oh, and a communist, I think.

[A]

Isn't he a professor in finance? I don't know what. He's a professor in action.

[B]

Go look him up.

[A]

And he was on Judge Knapp show. So here's the haters welcoming the haters. It seems just based on the last few minutes, minutes that Trump said, well, we won't take Greenland by force probably, if I could guess, because the stock market went down yesterday and maybe that's the only thing that interests the President is his personal wealth. And so maybe, maybe that is the one last guardrail that we have. We don't seem to have a guardrail of decency, of behavior like an adult to whine about not getting the Nobel Prize. It's something you would teach your children. Hold it in. You don't get everything you want. Try to hold it together. But what we have is a kind of decompensation, it seems to me, at a personal level. But maybe Trump was pulled aside by Besant or somebody and explained. And Mr. President, your. Your remarks yesterday led to a big drop of the stock market. So try to say something. Maybe he knew what he was going to say. So somebody's front running the market as it recovers on his remarks. Maybe it's all a game in that way. But Mike, he has pulled the world into a whipsaw. That is crazy, and it may well be crazy. We've not seen any behavior like this by any American president in modern times. Professor Jeffrey Sachs just put himself on the same level as the ladies of the View. You've got to take some stock at a certain moment and look at yourself and say, what am I actually going out there and telling people? It's just, it's baffling to me that they don't. You and I see this all the time and we keep saying, when will they figure Trump out? And you always say never, and I'll continue saying it. No, let me, let me. Here's the female version of Sax. At the tone, a clip from the.

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View will be played. Shelter in place.

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Let me ruin your morning. World leaders just touched down in Davos and they have a lot to process from you know who, because this weekend he fired off angry text messages to Norway's Prime Minister, blaming the country for denying him the Nobel Peace Prize even though the country doesn't have anything to say about who. Who gets the award and any hint that the snub has made him even more determined. Doesn't she sound like Obama phone lady from time to time a phone to take control of Greenland. But he had a different take on things last night. Take a look. Can you speak to your letter that you wrote the Prime Minister saying that the Nobel Prize have influenced your thinking on free. No, I don't care about the Nobel Prize. First of all, a very fine woman.

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Felt that I deserved it and really.

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Wanted me to have the Nobel Prize. And I appreciate that. If anybody thinks that Norway doesn't.

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Doesn't control the Nobel Prize, they're just kidding.

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They have a board. But it's controlled by Norway and I don't care what Norway says, but I really don't care about that when I get.

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What I care about is saving lives.

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He said to the Prime Minister, okay. Of Norway, considering your country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped eight wars plus which is not true. That's. See what I mean? Exaggerated and inflated. He said I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of peace. And then he also said Denmark cannot protect that land from Russia or China and why do they have a rights of ownership to it anyway? He's saying. What he's saying is the quiet part out loud. He is going to try to take Greenland and we need to do everything we can to. And we just wanted cheaper groceries. Let me hear Whoopi again for denying him the Nobel Peace Prize. Everybody in Cleveland, low minority got Obama phone. Keep Obama. Yeah, I think it's pretty close. So. Shame on these people. This, it's just, it's pathetic. Everybody was doing it like we were just like, oh, this is a gambit. Let's see how it plays out.

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What else you got for Greenland? I really don't have anything but the, but the summary clip and I, I don't have much on the, on the topic. I, I have, I'm not even sure you know how he's going to pull this off, but I think it's one of these things where it's like a squatter, you know, they just kind of move in and you can't get them out. And that's what we're going to do.

[A]

Yeah. And all he wanted was everyone to know we're going to do it.

[B]

Yeah. So he's got to lay down the frame. The framework. He laid down his frame. The framework is hey, we're going to we're moving into Greenland. Okay.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. We're putting the gold, the golden dome up.

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What are you going to do about it?

[A]

You know what?

[B]

There'd be any fighting. The Greenlanders are fine with it.

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If I was 25, 30 years old, you know what I'd do? I'd be on a plane to Greenland. I'd be buying a house. I'm setting up shop. I bet you the Davos ladies, they're already, they're putting on their mink coats, they're flying over. It's going to be a bonanza. It's going to be a boom town like no one's ever seen before. 4. Nook, nook, nook. I do have two clips from Jake Tapper, CNN Breaking news, breaking news break. Welcome to the lead. I'm Jake Tapper. We're going to start with breaking news in our world. Lead Hours after delivering a speech at Davos that was received as warmly as the frigid Swiss Air, President Trump now claims he's one step closer to his goal of the US Acquiring the Ark Arctic island of Greenland, which belongs to Denmark. Trump wrote on Truth Social today, quote, based upon a very productive meeting that I have had with the Secretary General of Naito, Mark Ruda, we have formed a framework of a future deal with respect to Greenland and in fact the entire Arctic region. This solution, if consummated, will be a great one for the United States of America and all NATO nations. Based upon this understanding, I will not be imposing the tariffs that were scheduled to go into Effect on February, February 1, unquote. Just minutes ago, the President was asked about this and pressed by cnn, Kaitlan Collins, on whether this framework of a deal includes the US Ownership that President Trump has insisted must happen. Caitlin got the trip to Davos. Does it still include the United States having ownership of Greenland like you've said you wanted? It's a long term deal. It's the ultimate law. A long term deal. Yeah.

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I think it puts everybody in a really good position.

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I love the music, the lounge music in the background that is so Davos. Like, hey, man, we're in the lobby and it's nice and chill and everyone's like screwing and swooning. It's the ultimate long term deal. It puts everybody in a really good position, especially as it pertains to security and minerals and everything.

[B]

That sounds like a live piano.

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It could be. Let's listen again.

[B]

Been to these things where there's, you're floating around and there's some dude playing.

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The Piano and sometimes a lady with a harp.

[B]

Well, I haven't seen that.

[A]

I've seen harp lady before. It's a long term deal. It's the ultimate long term deal and.

[B]

I think it's, it puts everybody in.

[A]

A really good position, especially as it pertains to security and minerals and everything else. How long would the deal be, Mr. President? Infinite. He says. Second part to this. The President also questioned NATO and the future of NATO. We give so much and we get so little in return. And I've been a critic of NATO for many years and yet I've done more to help NATO than any other president by far. The problem with NATO is that we'll be there for them 100%, but I'm not sure that they be there for us. So again, fact, the only time in history that NATO's Article 5, which is an attack on one, is an attack on all. The only time Article 5 has been invoked was NATO being there for the United States after 9, 11. The President then turned to wind farms and windmills, insulting European countries that use them.

[B]

That was good, by the way.

[A]

That was fantastic.

[B]

Yeah. He went on and on about the Chinese benefiting from selling the windmill junk.

[A]

Oh wait. Well, Jake Tapper has some data and some stats. China makes almost all of the windmills and yet I haven't been able to find any wind farms in China. But they make them, they sell them for a fortune. They sell them to the stupid people that buy them, but they don't use them themselves. China, important fact has more wind farms than any other country. I think an estimated 20% of their energy comes from wind. But no, the big picture, according to three sources, it doesn't seem true to me either, but that, that was, you know, that's Jake. And officials worry that NATO's very survival remains at the stake. They feel an urgent diplomatic intervention is needed for the President. I guess a question we all have right now is whether this claim that this issue is about to be resolved, is that real? Is that Trump waving a white flag? Sources tell the New York Times that during a NATO meeting today, top military officers from NATO member states discussed this so called compromise in which Denmark would give the US sovereignty over small pockets of Greenland where the US could build military bases. The officials did not know if this idea was part of the framework. Yeah, okay, Nobody knows nothing, but I think you're right. This is just all a pretext to steaming in and it's like, what are you doing? What's the framework? Ask Mark. Mark's got the Details. Mark said, give them the memo. It still, it blows me away about Marc Rutza. Just blows me away. President Trump is calling him out like, hey, where's Mark? Yeah, Mark, he's a great guy. Great. He's just fantastic. He's a numb nut. Everybody in Holland knows this. Everybody knows this.

[B]

Yeah, but Holland's a small country.

[A]

Yeah, that's true. This was the one little thing he had. He's a numbnut. HR for Unilever. Come on. So we want a piece of ice for world protection and they won't give it. We've never asked for anything else and we could have kept that piece of land and we didn't. So they have a choice. You can say yes, and we will be very appreciative, or you can say no, and we will remember. We'll remember. And did you catch the breaking news? The president broke breaking news during his speech. Breaking news. No one, no one's picked up on it. But I clipped it because it's breaking news. You wouldn't have NATO if I didn't get involved in my first term. The war with Ukraine is an example. We are thousands of miles away, separated by a giant ocean. It's a war that should have never started. And it wouldn't have started if the, the 2020 US presidential election weren't rigged. It was a rigged election. Everybody now knows that. They found out. People will soon be prosecuted for what they did. It's probably breaking news, but it should be. It was a rigged direction. Well, it's breaking news, people going to be prosecuted very soon.

[B]

I heard that, too.

[A]

No one, no one has picked up on this. I'm.

[B]

It's not fitting the narrative of the Democrats for the midterms. We can't have that.

[A]

That would be no good. Well, it's going to happen before the midterms. I just have, I think, two more on the Greenland thing.

[B]

Oh, no, I don't think it will.

[A]

No.

[B]

With Pam Bondi's operation, they can't get anything off going.

[A]

Now, you're very cynical about that and I understand, but I think it's because Pam Bondi that it will happen. Happen. Pam Bondi is not going to push back. She'll do what the president says that that was why she was hired. So if he says prosecute, she'll prosecute.

[B]

We'll see.

[A]

Yeah, I know as you're, you're cynical. I'm optimistic. I'm optimistic about it. It will be fun to watch. We have, we have Maduro. He's spilling the tea Letting everybody know prosecution's coming. You know, the minute we see what's her face. Kraken lady. Remember the Kraken lady?

[B]

Yeah, yeah. They released the Kraken.

[A]

Yeah. When she comes back on the scene, we'll know prosecutions are imminent. What was her name again?

[B]

I'm trying to get it. I can't think of it.

[A]

It's not coming to mind either.

[B]

She was Giuliani's lawyer. Co host.

[A]

Co host. Anyway, we all know the only person who really knows why, by the way, China's 10% is.

[B]

Yeah, Powell 10%.

[A]

And those are just showrooms.

[B]

Yeah, probably, yeah.

[A]

That's just. We show you how it works. Sidney Powell is her name. Sidney. The Kraken Powell. This is cbc. Oh, they got a doozy. There is one other significant factor that may have played a role in Trump's shifting positions. Former US Vice President Al Gore suggesting the markets may have something to do with it. After investors were spooked by Trump's hostile rhetoric. The bond market and the stock market really a lot of influence on him and when it goes down almost 900 points and people do interpret it as a sell America trade, that may well have been the reason he backed down. After Trump announced this so called deal, North American stocks surged, which seems to have reassured investors, at least for the time being. So Howard Lutnick, I guess he wrote an opinion piece for the Financial Times and there was a ding dinner. You know how this is like, oh, we have a special dinner, it's invite only and there's 200 people there. So Lutnick does a bit of shtick, bit of stand up at this dinner and everybody starts losing their mind. Like apparently there was a big uproar and oh, people were going crazy. And he was asked about it this morning on Bloomberg. Let's cut through in the snow, the drama. Let's get to the big point. The elephant in the room. What happened at dinner time the other night? I've heard all kinds of stories. Booing, Lagarde, storming out the room.

[B]

What happens?

[A]

Oh, this is so silly. So at the end of the evening, they called on me. I just published an op ed in the Financial Times and so they called on me. I gave two, three minutes of my ft, which basically said that globalization, right, and the outsourcing of your industry to the lowest cost in the world, right. Had really left, had really harmed America, it harmed Europe and it had failed, it had failed us and that we need to reshore, need to take care of our own citizens. So that's basically the model. And when I was done with that two or three minutes, one person of the 200 odd people in the room booed. And I felt honored because it was Al Gore. Al Gore booed. And I was like, really? Can you just imagine Al Gore sitting there booing by himself? Yeah.

[B]

Yep, I can imagine that.

[A]

Boo. Boo. You bullies. You bullies. Man, America is great. We're gonna fix all this. I feel positive. I love it.

[B]

I have two clips from Starmer on Greenland that might be worth listening to.

[A]

Okay, Starmer, which one? The GL or the full? I don't. It's not labeled one or two. Well, GL they seem to be different, but they're the same in length.

[B]

They look the same in length.

[A]

Well, they may be the same.

[B]

I think it's the same clip.

[A]

Okay, let's start with GL. Okay. Well, this is. This is rather embarrassing, actually. We, we sent our best five soldiers to Greenland, you know, as a show of force, so President Trump knows we're rather. Wait a minute. This has got to be AI serious about protecting Greenland. But. How do I put this? This. Well, well, they kind of came back and said it was way too cold. So I asked the Royal army to send five more, but they told me that's all we had. So we're just going to. We're probably going to stay out of this one. And we wish Greenland's new Prime Minister, President Trump, Godspeed on his new venture. Okay. Since you introduced AI I try to.

[B]

Slip one of these in every show, if you haven't noticed.

[A]

Yeah, no, I. Gee, I hadn't noticed the A.I. yes, yes, yes. It's quite good. And these short ones work well, just as a. As a production note. The short ones work well when they're long and they're cussing and stuff. I don't think it works as well, but this was good because it had just that subtle five and it was too cold. That was subtle. Was good. So outside of President Trump and Greenland and Secretary of the Commerce, Secretary Lutnick, who is just a jolly fellow, there's a billionaire who just loves life. Like, this is great. I'm rich.

[B]

He's having fun.

[A]

Yeah, he's. He's definitely like, I'm having fun. Al Gore's booing me. We're gonna bring back.

[B]

What could be better than having Al Gore boo ya. I mean, at least it shows you something.

[A]

Yeah, we're bringing back manufacturing to America. We're telling the old system go pound sand. We're gonna do everything ourselves. You Know we're gonn own facilities, our own manufacturing to put Americans back to work. You should think about that too. There's also all these other sessions and there will be many more over the next week and I'm sure I'll have some, some fun things on Sunday. Last year we had the Queen of the Netherlands saying something turdy. They all talk dumb. But the cake for AI was to. I think he's actually a historian. Yuval Harai, Harari. Harari. This jamoke, this guy, I can just see him there. And by the way, the whole screen which usually has Davos logos on changed into like some mythical hands, like moving around, you know, computer generated and coming out of the sky. And I think this, all this guy thinks is what can I say that will get me more speaking gigs because this is great for me. Do you know, as far as putting words in order is concerned, AI already thinks better than many of us. Therefore anything made of words will be taken over by AI. It's low are made of words, then AI will take over the legal system. If books are just combinations of words, then AI will take over books. If religion is built from words, then AI will take over religion. This is particularly true of religions based on books like Islam, Christianity or Judaism. Judaism calls itself the religion of the book and it grants ultimate authority not to humans, but to words in books. Humans have authority in Judaism not because of our experiences, but only because we learn words in books. Now no human can read and remember all the words in all the Jewish books, but AI can easily do that. What happens to a religion of the book when the greatest expert on the holy book is an AI? Yeah, you can sign me up right now for your next conference. I'm controversial. This guy, he's good.

[B]

You're right. You nailed it. That is a public speaking galaxy gambit. The use of the term gambit and.

[A]

You could go on forever if you're talking like that. I've actually, I've thought a little bit more. I've had some introspective thoughts with myself about AI because I do use it. You use it. I particularly like Gemini because it, first of all, it has, you know, some, I'm sure they have some better access to Google search. They have access to YouTube transcripts. You know, there's a lot of stuff that it can operate on. But let's just be honest, artificial intelligence. I mean to me it's like artificial flavoring. I mean there's obviously no intelligence in there. And what we see ourselves with AI generated stuff like art like music and you know, just go on YouTube and look, look at all the art. It's like now it all looks the same. Same. Nothing is exceptional. It's okay, you know. Yeah, it's good. It's technically good. It's much better than anyone could do. But now there's nothing exceptional. It's all like, you really got to look through and like, is there something really, really good? And so if you look at artistry in our own world where we have on a monthly basis hundreds of pieces of art, really, Darren o' Neill is the only. Is the only one who does something with it that works. Why can't every. Why can't the super artificial intellig make it all like Darren's funny bits? Because they can't. You know, the songs that we have, and we have two for today, they're okay, but now it all just sounds kind of the same. And it's very infrequent that something is just dynamite.

[B]

No, the sameness of the songs, I mean, I'm less concerned about the sameness of the art as I, but I, I'm not that concerned about it. But. And you're right, Darren does the best job generally. But the sameness, although Jeffrey Ray is right up there with him, I would say, but of the hundredness of the music really bothers me.

[A]

Yeah. Because music to make something, you know, hit your heartstrings, as it were, it needs something that artificial intelligence just doesn't have. Now, I think as, as a, as a technology. And by the way, why would that be any different for code? You know, if everyone's using the same models and we're doing code, you may not, you know, you may have one or two people who can do something exceptional with it, but this idea that, oh, it's going to be great and it's going to take over the world, they're probably not. I can see where having a model running at home. Home, which will soon be available within the next two years, a lot of these current Nvidia systems will have to be replaced for the newest, hottest, whatever, and you'll be able to run something at home, maybe at your club or your church or whatever. And then you can use it yourself and it'll be very functional for a lot of things. The problem is these Silicon Valley companies, they always want to offer it to everybody. Oh, everybody. This is the best everybody. That's why they did this parlor trick of your Chatbot talking to you. And oh, I can create some art and I can make my, you know, make My wife look like a queen. And all this stuff, it's like eh, okay. But it's not really functional and it's too expensive. I think the mistake they're making is trying to make it something that everybody will be able to access. And already ChatGPT, Google, they're already talking about ads, you know, and we know where that ends up. Just ads everywhere. So I just don't see. I really hope it works because it's good for our economy and lots of people building data centers and hey, you know what if all that AI stuff goes away? Supposedly they all have their own power plants. Well that'll be good. We'll have more energy. What?

[B]

I said that'll be the day.

[A]

What will be the day when they'll.

[B]

Have their own power plants?

[A]

Well that was, that's the promise.

[B]

Yeah. Promises, promises.

[A]

You are so, so pessimistic.

[B]

No, I'm not. It's just like I've seen these promises. I'm not. But you know these guys come up with all these grandiose schemes. You know, they're just shipping 10 bucks with every query you give them. And it's, it's ludicrous. They're losing their. As you said so yourself and you know that that's happening. And if there was so easy to put up these, all these power plants, why don't we have a bunch of them already? I mean power plants are non trivial and they use a lot of energy and they're not good for the environment. But all of a sudden the same environmentalists are putting up all these power plants left and right. In California they've torn down most of the reservoirs that gave us cheap hydroelectric power. Was all over the state and Newsom blew up all the dams and they've done the same thing in Washington state with all the dams. Oh, heaven forbid there's a salmon that can't get through. So let's blow up a dam. I mean, come on.

[A]

I believe that there will be some power that is built for these data centers that they have to.

[B]

And they're building a fusion power plant as Microsoft for its operation. Oh please. They can't get that to work.

[A]

Well, you know, I think there's going to be coal, there's going to be gas.

[B]

Well, if they go back to coal, I think they have a shot. But there's so much pushback against coal.

[A]

No, not in Texas, California. I mean these things are not being built in California. These things are being built in Virginia, in Texas, you know, wide open spaces. You know, they will, they have to have their. If they want them to turn on at all, they have to have additional power. It's just not available. So I, if they can keep the, the circularity system going of the money flow, I think they will build some places, plants. So that won't necessarily be bad if AI doesn't take off. But I just don't see the business model that they're used to working. You know, this is what they've tried to do. And that was Sam Altman who basically screwed everybody by, oh, look, it's a chatbot. You can talk to it. And then everyone went, okay, I could talk to my chat bot, my robot. You know, Google seems the only, only kind of winner in this because of the search. I mean, search is unbelievably good because they give you the sources. Now you use Anthropic or what do you use? What do you like?

[B]

I use Perplexity, and now I've moved to Claude.

[A]

How's Claude for you?

[B]

I like it so far. I have. I'm still like, I'm still designing because Claude's a little different than some of these other ones that require you to become friends with it. It's just kind of annoying, you know. Can you tell me more so I can make sure that everything I do is right?

[A]

I want to be friends with you.

[B]

I mean, it's just a little much.

[A]

Do you ever see.

[B]

So, I mean, for a quick. If I have to go look up something right now, I'll go to Perplexity and I want to deal with it. But eventually I think Claude will be the better one.

[A]

I can totally see, which is anthropic.

[B]

To be what it is.

[A]

What I can totally see is a lot of very, very small companies, one man, four man. Using any of the, any, almost any of these AI systems to build products, software products that may or may not have a marketplace or maybe a small company that can do something. But I just don't see the massive tam, as they say, the total accessible market that they're, that they're basing this on. I just don't. And now after Apple, yeah, okay, they're probably going to make a couple billion dollars a year by putting Gemini into their Siri. But, you know, Apple, this is, this goes against their whole ethos and, you know, people don't want to hear Siri anymore. So if you can't customize Siri, if you can't make Siri your friend and have Siri do different voices, which they won't want. Want this, it's Like, I think it's bad for Apple. I don't think it's a smart move, let people use that other stuff anyway. I mean, I've built some software products that I'm like, wow, I can't. But I know systems. I know how Linux systems work. I know how certain frameworks operate.

[B]

Well, that's the myth of AI right there. You can do it if, you know, if you could do it without AI.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, I can't. I really can't code this stuff. But when I say I want a playout system and here's how I'm going to build it, and I want it to run on Linux and I say, okay, I want to have. Bless you. I want to have six players and these players have to have pre fader listening and I have to be able to control it with my MIDI controller. I mean, I built half of the system I want within an hour. That blew me away. But it's not like that's not a product I'm gonna package up and ship. Like, who is the Podfather's Linux playout system? No one's gonna care for that. But it will.

[B]

How close are you to getting to your goal? And I will tell you what the goal. The goal, of course is getting off of Windows completely and being all Linux.

[A]

I would say I'm a full day's work away.

[B]

A day?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So the next show on Sunday.

[A]

No, no, I don't have any time in the next few days. Maybe Saturday. If it's Snowpocalypse and we can't go anywhere, then I. Then I might be able to do it. Yeah. Even the most difficult part, which is the.

[B]

Okay, well, let's. Let's put that's. Let's give you the benefit of the doubt. My next show on Thursday, next week.

[A]

I need a full day. I don't have a full day in my life anymore. So it'll take. It could take me a week or two, but I think I can actually get there.

[B]

Yeah, Two weeks. Two weeks.

[A]

I'm not gonna let you rush me.

[B]

I want a deadline. No deadline. You'll never do it.

[A]

No, I'll do it. I'll do it. I was amazed at how far I got. Like, holy crap. So I'm coding this and then all of a sudden the thing says, are you ready to build a cartwheel yet? I'm like, what? I never mentioned cartwheel. So it already understands the concept. Concept. But then it does really dumb stuff like. Well, since you are heavily involved with podcasting 2.0. Which, of course, you know, there was something I, I searched for or did on it in some other chat somewhere. So now it's trying to be smart now. Trying to tell me what I need to do based on something it thinks that I'm interested in at that moment, but irrelevant.

[B]

Oh, mind reading.

[A]

Yeah, mind reading. But I, I would really love just, you know, the, the real Nvidia system you want. It's going to be $14,000, and then you can get similar performance to what you get from, from Claude or whatever. I would love to have that at home. That would be great. It really would.

[B]

Wouldn't you rather save the $14,000?

[A]

Yes, but I want to be prepared for when they start charging me what it actually cost. You know, the people who have figured it out are 11, like, labs. They charge you. I mean, they're not messing around. They charge you for what you use. And it's expensive. It gets expensive because I've been using it for a whole bunch of different things. I'm like, wow, okay, so they're racking up bills here. Well, it's a. For church. I built a system. It's called your town. And churches can become their own radio station. And because no one knows what to do, if they just type in their promo, then the system creates the promo with the voice and with music and everything, and it sounds pretty decent. No one cares that it's an AI voice, honestly. But every single time you generate something, you know the meter's running. They do, they really do bill you properly. And that's when you're like, okay, well, that was 140 bucks a month. Month. That's not.

[B]

That's a little steep.

[A]

That's not just messing around with some AI stuff. So. But I think they're charging fair amount. You know, they're probably trying to make it profitable. And they may. For all I know, they may even be getting close. But I know it has to cost that, you know, they're the problem of these, of the Google. Well, Google has no problems, but of any of these systems is they're trying to serve everybody all the stuff time. Remember when it first started and you wanted an image and would put you in the queue, you'd have to go back and wait and look. It's like, oh, you're. You're number 30 in the queue. Your. Your job will process soon. Well, that's. Yeah, that's when it started maybe about a year ago when everything first started and these first image generators were starting to come out. Dali was the first one and even on Dali when it first started, you got put into a cube because they just didn't have the processing power.

[B]

I never had this experience and I using Dolly from the get go, I'm.

[A]

Just telling you this, this was a thing but it's, it's no longer a thing because they, you know, they inputted all the money and I just don't see where they're going to get it back. And how, how would ads work? I mean how, how Does Google make $40 billion a quarter? What are they actually selling? You should know this, this is, this is your wheelhouse house.

[B]

Well, Google makes most of their money selling data and services and other systems that they have. Their reliance on pure search for their monies for their revenue is not what it once was.

[A]

Where's their revenues?

[B]

It comes from data. Selling data and then do all kinds of back end stuff that you don't even know about.

[A]

Like selling to data brokers. Brokers.

[B]

Yeah, that and others. And so I can back to themselves.

[A]

Right. Well, I can see where that, you know, using your inputs, you know, now that Claude has gotten to get to know you. Oh, John has some weird things. He's asking, let me sell that. I can see that. But even then, will it, will it really outweigh everything? Will it, will it be enough? What are you doing?

[B]

I don't know how they're going to do it. I mean Google itself, when it began, it couldn't make money on ads because they didn't know how to do it. So they bought a company. Company that did it.

[A]

Yeah. DoubleClick.

[B]

No, no, no, no, no. It was a search engine company, not DoubleClick, it was actually called Go to or something like that. It had some screwball name and they were, they had a very small market share and they were a search engine that implemented ads the way Google does because it was pre Google. And so they bought this small company and they implemented that ad system which was not doubleclick, which is different. It was just a way how to present the ads. So you have your search engine results and then on the side it says it has these ads that relate to the search. And then they eventually incorporated ads into the search. So there was like you get your results back and some of them were ads there. It's going to be something like that where they slip it in. I don't know how they're going to do it. It's going to have to be somebody. There'll be a guy out there that will have an elegant solution with which is what Google discovered from another company. It'd be some small operation with an elegant solution. That's oh yeah, that's how you do it. There's a yeah, that's how you do it moment coming. We don't have it and we can't imagine if either one of us did, we'd go do that.

[A]

Well, I'm going to start thinking about it now.

[B]

Well, think about it.

[A]

And the minute they have that, then there'll just be another AI company that comes in front of it and executes the AI queries for you and filters out the ads. It's a never ending story. It's a never ending story. And then of course, this passed my transom. In August 2025, Adobe added some AI features to Acrobat Studio, including PDF Spaces, which supported the ability to add up to 100 documents to be AI Summarized documents added to PDF Spaces can now use Adobe's AI assistant to generate a presentation from uploads with options for editing without needing to generate new slides, and can be shared with co workers for further edits. Another new feature in PDF Spaces enables the creation of an AI podcast from a document similar to a Notebook LM feature. The default podcast creation option has two AI hosts discuss the material. Oh my goodness. That's what the world needs. More podcast hosts discussing your documentation. Lordy, lady, Lordy.

[B]

I think it's time for a deep dive.

[A]

I'm ready for you. Let's do it. Let's play something you got. So what is your. You got Brooks and Capehart. I've been missing your Brooks and Cape art stuff.

[B]

Well, yes.

[A]

They have been missing it too, because as you know, whenever you play the clips, their audience double. So I think we should play some Brooks and Cape art from your public broadcast systems media organization.

[B]

Well, they discuss Minnesota in these clips and there's also, there's four of them. They're short. One of them is really short. It's only 13 seconds. And they had. And there's a wow clip in here which makes it worthwhile. This is PBS one mn.

[A]

Well, it's been a busy week for President Trump flexing his power at home and abroad. To discuss, we turn now to the analysis of Brooks and Capehart. That is New York Times columnist David Brooks and Jonathan Capehart of Ms. Now.

[B]

It'S good to see you both.

[A]

I want to start with a little bit of news, Jonathan, that we just got moments ago. There are now reports the Department of Justice is issuing criminal subpoenas from Minnesota Governor Tim Waltz, Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fry we understand part of that is for what they said is impeding law enforcement. As you well know, this comes against the backdrop of ICE agents on the ground as part of President Trump's immigration crackdown. Protests on the ground in response to their presence. What's your reaction to the latest? Let me guess. Since one is a conservative and one is a liberal, they will have wild, wildly opposing views.

[B]

Wrong. As we know. I will reiterate this. They refuse to have an actual conservative voice on anything PBS does. And so everything is completely lopsided. And what you do is. And the way you do it. I know how you do it, is you have someone who says they're a conservative and they just agree with the liberal, whatever liberal says. And that's what we have here.

[A]

Well, the president warned that retribution was coming to Minnesota in just a couple of days ago, if not yesterday. Time is elastic.

[B]

Wait, the president said retribution was coming to Minnesota? When did he say that?

[A]

Yesterday, I think. I'd never heard him say that at all.

[B]

He never said it?

[A]

No. But this is PBS to Minnesota in just a couple of days ago, if not yesterday. Time is elastic these days. So not surprising, but also interesting coming from an administration that campaigned on how the previous administration was weaponizing the Justice Department against him and against people like him. And instead, what we have seen from President Trump is a weaponization of the Department of Justice. Now it's Governor Walz and Minneapolis Mayor Fry, but also New York Attorney General Letitia James, former FBI Director James Comey, the six Democratic members of the House and the Senate that did the video telling service members what they already know, which is they are not. They do not have to follow unlawful or illegal orders. Now, didn't the Department of War already demote the Arizona guy and subsequently tighten his pension payments?

[B]

I don't know what the status of that is. I don't know. That's true. I know they threatened it. He shook his head fist. I think Kelly be moaning more.

[A]

And so these are subpoenas that have gone out to. To the governor and to the mayor from. Yeah, from A.G. barbie. Well, subpoena is a start. I know what you're gonna say, but it's a.

[B]

What am I gonna say?

[A]

Nothing will happen.

[B]

Nothing will happen.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I, I somehow I'd like to see something happen. Believe me, I'm all for it. I think it's great. Great. There's a number of situations occurring right now that something should happen, but there's nothing's gonna happen. But let's go on. That was what was that clip, too?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay, so we're winding it up.

[A]

So I think that the governor and the mayor probably saw this coming a mile away because, again, we're dealing with the president, who has made it very clear in word and in deed that he will go after people. He does not like projecting much.

[B]

Okay, so he hasn't gone after Capehart.

[A]

He's on the list. Subpoenas are coming unsealed. Indictments are being opened as we speak.

[B]

So here we go with this is. I think this is for David.

[A]

We've seen tensions only rising on the ground in Minneapolis. We saw Governor Waltz publicly come out and call for a lowering of the temperature, telling the protesters, protesters, don't take the bait, don't be violent. Even as the administration says it's going to surge more agents. Criminal subpoenas for the state and city leaders. Does that lower the temperature? Not exactly. You know, we're coming close to something like an armed occupation of an American. Is he at home on Zoom or something? Is that how they're doing these shows now? Is he in the studio?

[B]

He's usually often on Zoom. I think he might be home on this one.

[A]

Okay. Criminal subpoena for the state and city leaders. Does that lower the temperature? Not exactly. You know, we're coming close to something like an armed occupation of an American state by the American federal government. There are 3,000 ICE officers in Minneapolis, which is like five times the number of police officers, and they are behaving with reckless and violent abandon. Barack Obama deported 3 million people during the course of his administration. He didn't do it this way. He did. To people who are just coming over the border or people who are crazy criminals. This is great. Do you remember when people would. They were. It was like a running joke in movies. Ice and the whole kitchen empties out.

[B]

Yeah, it was.

[A]

The only difference is you didn't hate that president. That's the only difference. And you didn't rile everybody up to go and make crazy noise about it. That's the only difference. You didn't, you know, send Don Lemon on Operation Pull.

[B]

Pull Up.

[A]

That's the only difference. We also didn't really have as much social media at the time. That was just starting. He didn't go into homes and terrorize children, disallow moms. Who's remember that? Do you remember Clinton? What was the kid's name? The Cuban kid?

[B]

Oh, right. Eli Gonzalez.

[A]

Eli. They had a gun sticking in his face.

[B]

Yeah. Little kid.

[A]

It was on the front page of every newspaper.

[B]

Newspaper, yeah, it Was a guy, a guy in a full armor, militarized guy with a big giant rifle and he's sticking in the kid's face. Eli. Elia. I think it's Eli.

[A]

Something like that. Yeah. Elian. Elian.

[B]

Elian.

[A]

Elian Gonzalez. Yeah. No, the media didn't do as much. So there.

[B]

Actually, that's the best point right there. You just, that's, that's the best example of, of the media being slow. Planted what you just said. I forgot about that. In fact, I've thought about the other ones and the kids in cages. And those cages were done by Obama. Yeah, but the Iliad Gonzalez thing was the worst. And it was, you know, they made a fuss about it, but not like this. They weren't protests and women standing around with signs, ice out.

[A]

So you said something on the last show which I think was really pertinent, surprising that because, you know, everybody from Oprah to Barbara Walters, Larry King, David Letterman, everywhere that Donald Trump went as Donald Trump, they all said, man, we really hope you run for president. You get it. You understand the international scene because his message has always been, we're getting ripped off by the rest of the world, particularly China.

[B]

China.

[A]

That is very consistent message. And they all loved him until he left the Democrat Party and became a Republican. That's the only difference. The guy is doing exactly the same thing.

[B]

Yeah, it's a cult problem.

[A]

It really is a cult problem. And it's just, it's sad. It is. So it breaks my heart to see these people so, you know, like your, like your old ladies there running around the strip mall. And where is it? What's the name of the place?

[B]

El Cerrito.

[A]

The El Cerrito.

[B]

Where our post office box. If people want to donate through the. With a check, then go to Post Office Box 339 El Cerrito, California, 9 4, 5 3. Oh, in fact, I was on my way to the post office to pick up the check.

[A]

The El Cerrito strip mall ladies. I mean, I mean, it's only because he's not a Democrat. And then. Well, not even that, but because he left the Democrat Party, he's a traitor. And you have to think that is really, that the media is just responsible for that.

[B]

Because the media's a bunch of Democrats and they're the ones who are trying to police the party. So when people quit and go off and do something else, they get all over them. They make their lives miserable. That's the idea. That's how a cult works.

[A]

Works. Disallow moms. Whose sons are dying from cancer, from seeing their kids breaking up. Families doing sort of ethnic investigations into people's neighbors using these hand grenades. Slash hand grenades. It's just a. It's an unprecedented. I don't know if unprecedented is the right word, but it could be. George H.W. bush used the Insurrection act in 1992 in California, but he did it with. With the presence of Pete Wilson, the governor there, with the local cooperation of local officials. This is completely different. This is something that is turning up the pressure. And I. What was 1992 with Bush? What did he need to do that in California for?

[B]

I don't remember at all. And I'm from here and so I. That eludes me.

[A]

I'd have to look it up with Pete Wilson. Wilson, yeah.

[B]

Who is a Republican.

[A]

I was gonna say. I was gonna say he's a Republican.

[B]

Something of a difference.

[A]

Yeah. Bush used the Insurrection act in 1992 in California, but he did it with the presence of Pete Wilson, the governor there, with the local corp. The cooperation of local officials. This is completely different. This is something that is turning up the pressure and I think Governor Waltz is right. I'm not a huge fan, but the protesters are turning up the tension on the ICE officers. Oh, that was after the Rodney King riots.

[B]

Oh, right down in la. Yes. Which was a huge mass mess.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

And they had to bring in the National Guard.

[A]

And if so long as they do it non violently, then Americans will see what is going on in their country. And I've long thought if Americans see deportations of respectable families, they will finally rebel against this regime. And not just the progressives, and not just Democrats, but normal people who like what the heck is going on here. And so that's where we're headed. Yeah, the ignorant is quite so.

[B]

So he's supposed to be as conservative spokesperson and instead of referring to the, you know, the Republicans, he calls it a regime. As though it's like some sort of communist operation in a third world country. The regime.

[A]

The regime. I tell you, the regime.

[B]

I mean this is this ridiculous product that the PBS has put out there. You know, there are people that. That can give the other side and there and get into an actual debate instead of.

[A]

Instead of. Chanel Ryan. You really want to be the K part?

[B]

No, I do not.

[A]

I don't. I would.

[B]

No, because I. For one thing it's a studio show mostly and I'm not interested in leaving the House as you know, they could.

[A]

Bring you in on Zoom like they do here.

[B]

Yeah, they don't Do. They don't like doing it because the sound quality, generally speaking, very few people know how to do their own sound.

[A]

Yeah, that's true. But you know how to do it. You know how to do. I can do it. You can do it. But the ignorance of people and all the words get confused and like, you know. Well, we think migrants have a right. It's like we've moved from illegal aliens to illegal immigrants to immigrants to migrants and now it's just. They're just people. They're Americans now.

[B]

Yeah. Because no person's illegal.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, we're not gonna solve it for them.

[B]

No. All we do is bitch and moan.

[A]

No, I'm not bitching and moaning at all. I'm very. Okay.

[B]

All I do is bitch and moan.

[A]

Yes, you do. I'm very optimistic about some prosecutions taking place.

[B]

Well, let's hope for the. Before you play that, let's play the general strike. Another general strike's being called for. These things don't work. Have failed at every turn. But here's another one.

[A]

Pentagon is readying more active duty soldiers for a possible deployment to Minneapolis. That's on the heels of the Justice Department' issuing subpoenas to Democratic officials in Minnesota alleging they are impeding the work of immigration agents. NPR's Cat Lonsdorf has more. Grand jury subpoenas went out to several local and state leaders, including Governor Tim Waltz and Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fry. The investigation centers on public comments Both made after 37 year old Renee Macklin Good was killed by an ICE agent two weeks ago. Officials in the Twin Cities are calling the subpoenas an intimidation tactic, while the the administration accuses Waltz and Fry of using heated rhetoric. Meanwhile, those opposed to the federal immigration surge in Minneapolis are calling for a general strike on Friday, encouraging residents across the state to stay home from work and school and refrain from shopping in an act of Protest. More than 300 businesses have said they plan to close. Well, that's going to be great for everybody. Hey, why not just go burn some money? Yeah, I don't need it anyway.

[B]

The chat room was referring to is this general strike tomorrow, but this only in Minnesota. I mean the general strike that was called for nationwide was on the, on the anniversary of the inauguration, which is the 20th where we had the old ladies coming out.

[A]

Well, I'm, I'm putting my stock into the shusher. I think Scott shushing down the mountain Besant. He's the guy that's following the money. Yeah, we'll do. Ah, you're, you're Blocking law enforcement, his subpoena. But, you know, if they can really start to uncover some of the actual fraud and tie it back to their PayPal, you know, that would be something.

[B]

I wish they would. I think that, you know, we take it for granted, you know, supposedly all Somalis, and they're putting, you know, $750 million in cash in a box, shipping it in an airplane and all this other stuff going on, both crap. And they can't find, you know, they're not going to get to the bottom of it. They just don't have the wherewithal.

[A]

Yeah, but see, that's. I think they do. I think.

[B]

Let's hope so. I hope they do.

[A]

I think all money is infinitely traceable, unless it's, you know. Well, yeah, the Somalis with piles of cash. Yeah, that may be a little bit harder. But there's got to be stuff. Besson seems to, you know, I mean, this is what Doge was. Doge was to. Going, going in, connecting into the system. All right, here's your API. You want to track any dollar. As long as it's transferred digitally, we can see where it eventually went. And then if it's taken out in paper, well, okay, then you got to go get boots on the ground, feet on the street. I think. You know what? I just. I am hopeful about it. I'm hopeful because if it doesn't happen with this president, it'll never happen. Then I'll. Then I'll just be like you.

[B]

You.

[A]

Like.

[B]

If it doesn't happen with this president, it will happen with a president that has. You know, there is a. You know, Trump is kind of always seems to be walking on eggshells when it comes to, like, really using his authority. You'd like to say, well, if he tells Bondi to do it, she'll do it. But he doesn't do that. She hasn't done anything.

[A]

Not yet. So talking about do nothings, I will. I will give you this one. We have the Epstein, Epstein, Epstein, Epstein, Epstein, Epstein. And the Justice Department is slow walking the release of more Fox Files. I personally think the slow walk is a reason to delay something until the midterms. I'm hoping that's it, because that would be fun for the show. It may just be because they don't have anything or they don't want. I mean, who knows? There's so much stuff we'd love to see. You and I both. I mean, think about it. Just be wonderful for the show. So President Trump saved the show, but then we have the Clintons who, who are kind of messed up their. Their subpoena. Today, the House overs took the next step towards a full House vote that would find Bill and Hillary Clinton, the former president and former first lady and Secretary of State and presidential candidate, in contempt of Congress because they didn't agree they defied the subpoenas related to the Epstein investigation. If you were providing legal advice to the Clintons, what would you tell them? Well, I would have told them to show up in the first place. I think the big mistake is they fought this subpoena by sending a bunch of letters to, to the committee, but they never went to court to challenge the subpoenas. And now as a result, they've walked themselves right into what I think is likely to be a contempt charge. It's already gotten through the committee. It next goes to the full House. But today on the committee, nine Democrats on the Oversight Committee voted for contempt against Bill Clinton. Three voted for it against Hillary Clinton. If it gets through the House, it goes to DOJ next, where Pam Bondi and Todd Blanche are going to have the decision. I think the Clintons have played this wrong. I think. I think they've showed hubris in defying this subpoena. And if they want an example, not saying they're going to jail, but if they're going to complain about this. Peter Navarro, Steve Bannon defied congressional subpoenas, charged with contempt prosecuted. They went to prison for four months each. So you think that if they had challenged the. What would have been the basis to challenge the subpoenas? So the argument they've made is these subpoenas are not tied to any valid legislative purpose. The House has said, we need to hear from you, Bill Clinton, because we're writing new anti human trafficking legislation. The argument that they've made, that they should have made to a judge is what does Bill Clinton's knowledge about what Jeffrey Epstein was doing 30 years ago have to do with writing anti human trafficking legislation now? But they haven't gone to court. And so they've left themselves exposed to what I think will be contempt charges.

[B]

That was a good. That was.

[A]

Right.

[B]

That was a very good analysis by whoever that was.

[A]

I forget who this is, but it was.

[B]

I have one clip on this.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And it's the one that's got contests. Contempt or. Where's the name of this thing, Epstein? Contempt.

[A]

Yeah, gotcha. Happening on Capitol Hill today, the House.

[B]

Oversight Committee votes to hold Bill and.

[A]

Hillary Clinton in contempt of Congress. That's after they refused to appear and testify in a Probe on Jeffrey Epstein. Today was a big day for accountability of the work the Oversight Committee has done thus far on the Epstein investigation. I'm very happy that we had a bipartisan vote. Right. You're yelling through your own clip.

[B]

Sorry.

[A]

Today to hold the Clintons in contempt of Congress. And this shows that no one's above the law. And I'm just real proud of the committee and look forward to hopefully getting the Epstein documents in very quickly and trying to get answers to the American people. The vote to hold former President Bill Clinton in contempt was 34 to 8.

[B]

While the vote for former Secretary of.

[A]

State Hillary Clinton was 28 to 15.

[B]

The committee first subpoenaed the Clintons to.

[A]

Testify and its probe into sex trafficker.

[B]

Jeffrey Epstein back in July of last year.

[A]

Both failed to show up earlier this month after initially signaling they would cooperate. The contempt charges will head to the full House floor for a vote. Committee Chairman James Comer said today he hopes the Justice Department can release all of the Epstein files quickly. The Clintons were not accused of any wrongdoing in relation to Epstein, but Bill Clinton was seen in multiple photographs with the sex trafficker.

[B]

The House Oversight Committee also subpoenaed Epstein.

[A]

Accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell, who is currently in jail, to appear for a deposition on February 9th. Yeah, the narrative or the. Yeah, the narrative has really shifted from the disgraced financier to convicted sex trafficker. That has definitely changed. Funny enough, I have a Comer clip which I was going to play just to irk you, but there is. He does say something here, which I think is the crux of the matter. It's not so much the. That they don't want to appear, it's how they want to appear. Here's Comer caught in the hallways of Congress. Is it important? Is there still an opportunity for the Clintons to negotiate some sort of satisfaction of the subpoena? Even though you've taken the step with.

[B]

Contenders, there's always a. There's always an opportunity.

[A]

It's going to be two weeks before this is on the floor. We're going to have to notice this is going to be treated like any other bill. We're making sure every eyes dotted and everybody T's crossed because they have a very expensive legal team. So obviously there will be a couple more days this week, depending on the weather.

[B]

Then it will be three days notice.

[A]

And then we can vote on it. I've been assured we're going to vote on it. So that's two weeks because we're Going to be an awful week. They're going to have two weeks that they're going to theoretically be able to negotiate. But one thing that I want to make very clear, a lot of what the Democrats were saying, saying today, and I don't. I'm not accusing the Democrats on the committee of lying. I'm accusing the lawyers for the Clintons of not being truthful. They. They were not in good faith negotiating. They never made a proposal where there would be an actual transcript. And I don't think anyone in the media would. Would accept any type of interview without a transcript. Then you're going to have notes and. And it's going to be Clinton's word against my word, Garcia's word against my word. That's no good. You know, there should be a recorded, at the very least transcript, if not audio and video. I would argue all three of the deposition.

[B]

That is the law.

[A]

That is what is considered legal in court.

[B]

And I don't think anyone in the.

[A]

Media would argue against that, sir. So the way I hear this, they're like, yeah, we remember when Bill had his deposition. Remember sitting there in that little room as president with his coke, can of coke. Ebony said, I did not have sexual relations with that woman. They don't want to repeat. He's happy to testify. He just doesn't want anyone to hear his testimony. That's. That's what's going on. Because he knows that this just. Anything he says is. He's never gonna. He's never gonna be able to outlive whatever comes out. So I think that's the negotiation now. Then, of course, Comer, you know, Comer, he's gonna be just tough, man. He's a tough guy. He's gonna stick to his guns. You know what's. What's interesting is about 50% of our troll room audience, which is just a temporary. Temporary, you know, thermometer. You know, they are. So I think that you rub off a little bit on them, although you're not like this all the way. But all they goes, like, the rot goes all the way to the top. Everything's crap. Nothing's good. It's all. None of it's good. It's all horror. It goes to the top. The. The head of the fish is rotting.

[B]

I'm like, works for me.

[A]

Like, why don't you move to Canada, move to Australia? I hear. I hear Europe some real, you know, that there are now trans Americans who are fleeing to the Netherlands and requesting asylum. And they are actually being. Putting. Being put in asylum Centers with insane asylums. No, asylum seeker centers. And because they're already full with Africans, West Africans, south, that North Africans, they're intense now. So, you know, there's all these articles. The Guardian has a big profile on it. Like, I just don't feel safe in Trump's America. So I got on a plane, I went to Amsterdam and I said, I'm seeking asylum. And the guys at the border went, what? Yeah, well, okay, here's a ticket. Go to Teherar, which is, you know, train, rail, like an hour train, hour and a half train, train ride. And they show up there. They're like, what? Yeah, yeah, I'm seeking asylum. I said, well, the center is full, so you can sleep in the tent. That's how crazy people are.

[B]

In fact, the President, well, it doesn't take much to figure that out when you watch Rosie o' Donnell or Ellen.

[A]

Yeah, the President alluded to this a little bit in his Davos speech. Have a little piece here. To embrace the possibilities of tomorrow, we must reject the perennial prophets of doom and their predictions of the apocalypse. They are the heirs of yesterday's foolish fortune tellers. And I have them and you have them.

[B]

And.

[A]

They want to see us do badly, but we don't let that happen. They predicted an overpopulation crisis in the 1960s, mass starvation in the 70s, and an end of all oil in the 1990s. Armists always demand the same thing. Absolute power to dominate, transform and control every aspect of our lives. We will never let radical socialists destroy our economy, wreck our country, or eradicate our liberty. America will always be the proud, strong and unyielding bastion of freedom. Yeah, when I hear that, that. And if you hear that and go, everything's rotten. Epstein files. These are socialists. You belong with the other people. Get out of the country.

[B]

Yep. And get out of the chat room.

[A]

Definitely out of the chat room. Hey, with that, I want to thank you for your courage in the morning. To you, the man who put the seas in the contempt of Congress. Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only, Mr. Johnson.

[B]

Sea boost and the graphene. The air subs in the water and Dame Nice out there in the morning.

[A]

To the trolls hanging out in the troll room. Let me count you for a second. 1592. So we've done better, but it's not too bad. I'm happy to have everybody here. Weather. It's good to have everybody here because. Yes. We don't even know if we'll have. Well, I'm pretty set for the show because I have got the. Jenny, the generator is good to go. So if the power goes and the power. It's like if we really do have an ice storm here, probably the power will go out. So I got the generator, I've got, you know, everything's running. Got what it. The UPS running on the studio and.

[B]

On the router and you have connection, you have. Unlike me, you have a connection to Starlink just in case.

[A]

Not one, but I have two. I also have the Starlink mobile just in case. You never know. You never know what happens. It's supposed to have a heating element in that dish. I think it does. But I have a backup and have the T mobile Starlinks. Yeah, I have the, the home Starlink and then they. I think we talked about this.

[B]

Well, we have talked about it. I didn't know you had one.

[A]

Yeah, no. Elon had a deal. It was like for five bucks a month you get the mobile Starlink and it's only going to be five bucks a month. So he sent me, you get all the, all the gear with a little note from Elon. Thanks. With five bucks. Okay. So if you activate it then he start. You get charged for it.

[B]

But oh, so it's five bucks in a bands.

[A]

Yeah, five bucks in the bands. Five bucks in the bag. Show title.

[B]

That's an interesting ploy. I've never seen that marketing tactic used for something like this.

[A]

We probably had to empty out the store, the warehouse or something. People weren't buying it, but I liked it. So I got that. I have the fiber. The fiber may stay up for all you know, I mean the fibers on Underground so. So I'm pretty sure I will be here. I will try. I will try for sure.

[B]

Was it supposed to hit Sunday this weekend?

[A]

Well, they said it's going to start Friday. Then it's like, well, maybe Saturday.

[B]

In other words, there's nothing's going to happen.

[A]

That's what I'm thinking. I think it's going to be. I mean it may be worse. Of course in the true middle of the country and the east where they have real action. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Pretty theme.

[A]

But we have, we have, you know, we have traumatic stress disorder here from the previous snowpocalypse. You know, it was bad when we had that going on. Did we even do a show when, when I was out. I can't remember.

[B]

We always did a show. We've never missed the show. We've missed shows in 18 plus years we've never missed a show. We haven't had to put an emergency show up either. All the shows that are like, you know, clip shows of sorts, they're all original and they're all pre programmed.

[A]

Yes. Emergency pod. I do an emergency pod. We've never.

[B]

That would true emergency pod in our.

[A]

Case, we've never done an actual emergency pod for any reason whatsoever.

[B]

Right. In almost 19 years.

[A]

So those trolls are in the troll room and they are listening atnoagenda stream.com. or perhaps they have a modern podcast app, which is possible. I have a feeling this is the year. This is the year that Apple will do the live streams. They're crazy. Not to. Every radio station in the world is figured out that transmitters are not the way to go. Took 25 years, but okay. So they're gonna. I think they're gonna add that feature pretty soon, so you might as well get on board now. And of course, Apple still, they have.

[B]

That feature on their Apple tv.

[A]

What live streams.

[B]

Don't they have live streams?

[A]

No, no Apple live streams of what?

[B]

Don't you mention it?

[A]

No, no, there's no, there's no live stream.

[B]

They bought some football. Didn't they buy some rights to some live streams like baseball or football or basketball or something?

[A]

Well, but that's sports. I'm talking about radio or podcasts or live streams or, you know, there's hundreds of thousands of music streams. There's all kinds of stuff you can get. And what we did is we packaged up the live stream with the episodes in one RSS feed. So you just subscribe to a show or if you want, subscribe to a station, then you get the shows and you get the live stream and you can switch around and notifications fire off when someone goes live. And we've been doing that with, with no agenda stream for. For years. For years we'd be doing the live stuff anyway. So if you get a modern podcast app, the idea is that you'll get notified when we go live. Another thing we pioneered is not doing ads. Oh man, am I so happy about that. What a race to the bottom that is turning out to be. Podcast industrial complex is hurting so much. So instead we went value for value. And value for value is a very beautiful system. We just give you value straight up. Here it is in your face. More than three hours, twice a week of value.

[B]

No firewalls.

[A]

No firewalls, no levels, no hoops, no subscriptions. You just send us whatever you think the show is worth when you feel it's worth it. Which we hope is every single time you listen to it in return. People do many things. One of them is, well, we have value for value is time, talent and treasure. And we like a lot of the time and talent that people put in to helping us with the show. Boots on the Ground helps tremendous, tremendously. But also when someone knows how to use the tools, he can usually knock it out of the park and. Oh, man. Darren O'. Neill. Baron. Darren O' Neill did it again with the artwork for episode 1835. You can upload all of your slop to noagendaartgenerator.com but sometimes Darren, stuff just jumps off the page. And this book of yours, which acts as my book, no Agenda Publishing presents JCD Complains Again by Adam Curry, foreword by John Cuba Warak. And then. Beautiful. A beautiful little. What do you call it? Blurb. Blurb on the front. I don't like it. I mean, come on. This was. And you can tell when people are in my timeline, like, this is great art. This is great. And it's a concept. You know, anybody can type something into the thing, like, give me something funny about Greenland and the Norgen Show. Wow, okay. But when you do this. And I. And. And I wonder how many times it took Darren to. To generate this one. Probably once, you know, it's also, people will send me songs like, hey, it took me 62 generations to find. Please give me your honest opinion. And it's just an AI song. Like, okay, you wrote some lyrics and the lyrics are. Are cute, but a lot of the.

[B]

Lyrics are written by AI too. Often.

[A]

Yeah, often.

[B]

Oh, Nico Syme uses AI to write his lyrics.

[A]

Yeah, but you know, it's like, you know, what do you. What do you want me to say? Oh, great, I can't wait to spin it on my show. You know, it's like no one cares anymore. Music. No one cares. They don't. We have Gitmojams.com which is just all this AI slop. It's fun. It's fun to have it on the background, but it's not like, you know, you're not going to make a hit record. No, it's not going to happen.

[B]

Don't go through what happens when it does happen.

[A]

Oh, please.

[B]

What are you going to say then?

[A]

I will eat my words. But it's not going to happen. It's not.

[B]

I say it will.

[A]

Say what will?

[B]

That there will be a hit song. That's A.I.

[A]

Okay, well, you want to put that in the book. And what kind of time frame? Two weeks. Two weeks. I'll be on Linux, but I'LL be doing the show on Linux before there's a hit song done by AI. And AI has enormous head start.

[B]

I'm not taking that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm just saying eventually. I didn't say I didn't have. I'm thinking years.

[A]

No, I don't think so. I don't think so. Let's see if there was anything else that. That jumped out. I don't think so. Because everything just such high concepts. Was there anything else that we liked? We had no agenda. Olive spray, no networks. Keeps trying to bring in his coffee cup, which is nice, but no. The, you know, people skiing. Trump skiing. The Tiktoker Barbie. No, this is nothing. It's way too complicated. Complicated. Have you noticed this with these models? It's like, it's too much. They're drawing like complete cartoon cells. Is that the right word for it? Or like a panel? You know where you have a panel. A panel.

[B]

Cells are for movies.

[A]

Yeah. It has to be all detailed, all kinds of stuff. And it's too busy. And give it. Give us some. Give them some feedback. John, come on, you're the art critic here.

[B]

I didn't see anything here that was worth. I mean it was so obvious that Darren's piece was the best. But you know, his pieces are always a little. I mean his piece is busy too, but like no agenda. Crumb cake is an example of his stuff. JCD's office. We get to do this podcast joke is kind of interesting. I don't know. It's just like maybe he should give a class.

[A]

Yeah, a mass. Oh, we should call it a mass seminar. A master class. Yes, a master class. Masterclass. Okay.

[B]

A seminar.

[A]

Thank you very much. Artists.

[B]

I think just stop for a second. I think $150 seminar or maybe a $250 seminar. One day or two days. If it's two days. Have to be more. But let's just say one day, four hour seminar for 150. $250 on doing AI. And you do it over the web. Make it a webinar.

[A]

Webinar.

[B]

You could do it over the web and you could. And Darren could. Would get 10 people for starters. And get the hang of doing this sort of thing because it does take a little skill. And then to see how that. How he felt about it. And then I think he could make it a regular one every year. He could do another one of these and make. I think make some money with. With a. Especially with a webinar where you can just load up with people for $1. Hundred fifty to $250 a pop. And show people how to do what he does because he does the best job of the everybody. With, I'd say the possible exception of Jeffrey Raya.

[A]

Yeah. Well, why don't we do a podcast webinar? Then we could. No, I don't think so.

[B]

Well, see, you don't want. That's why we don't.

[A]

No, of course not. We can't even. We can't get anything done. The.

[B]

Obviously.

[A]

Barely. We show up, we're here, we're doing it. We. We do love.

[B]

But I think Darren should think about this, what I just said.

[A]

Yeah, well, so 1500. Hundred bucks.

[B]

No, I said 150 times 10. Yeah, but it could be times a hundred.

[A]

Oh, okay, now you're talking. And then. And what is the class? How to make art for podcasts?

[B]

No, how to do how to use AI art generators.

[A]

Maybe this is all he do for four artists. Maybe this is all he can do.

[B]

Maybe it should be four.

[A]

I read.

[B]

Does other stuff for artists. His song making is quite good too, but he's got it down. He should transfer his knowledge to others at a. For a fee.

[A]

I think they should have a whole university with Scaramanga for the. For the babes.

[B]

Okay, well, I see you're not taking this serious. I'm very serious about this. Okay. The whole university was Scaramanga. I don't think so.

[A]

As a part of the value for value model, we love thanking the people who supported us with their treasure. And every single show, people do it and we appreciate it and it shows that they are appreciative of what we're doing. I think we're the calm in the storm. We don't conform to the ways of this world. With everybody freaking out. Knee jerk reaction. And like, I'm pretty proud of the fact we have not talked about Don Luke Lemon was everybody. Oh, man, he needs to go to jail. Yeah, Every podcaster did it. Every single one. All of them jumping on it. No, we get down to the meat of everything. We tell you what's really happening, what's happening in the background, we listen to the words. So we thank everybody, $50 and above. And look at that coming in as he does every month or so. Kind of depends on where he is now in the world. Pseudonymous of Dogpatch in Lower Slovia with a printed note, typed note, I should say, type note, and accompanied as usual in cash. $4,648. Holy cow. Lots of $2 bills.

[B]

Again, eight. I have five. $8 worth.

[A]

Very, very nice. And he always has a very thoughtful note which I will read now. Cold read from Pseudonymous, a dog patch in Lower Slovia. Thank you to all producers for contributing so much to this very rich open source data resource. Huh? Do you think we're being used by intelligence agencies as a resource? I hope so, after falling.

[B]

And I hope they send us more donations because we are a resource and we do analysis and we counter the. You know, we can. I talked about this before. You know, it's possible that somebody can run a, run an op and can we figure it out or do we get it wrong? If we get it wrong. That's kind of interesting to somebody doing the op. Yeah, yeah, definitely.

[A]

So psyronomous. And we of course have no idea what he's. What he's. What his vocation is.

[B]

Caterpillar salesman.

[A]

Yes. After falling off the grid for several weeks at missing year end, I'm making up my value received deficits. See, he understands it value for value model perfectly. Falling off the grid though is an interesting term. It's not like he fell off overboard. It's not like he wasn't listening. He was literally off grid.

[B]

Yeah, he was doing something.

[A]

I'm enjoying your discussion on how difficult it is to protect a monarchy and elitism as the serfs gain awareness, for lack of a better term. Anti globalization in so called western countries is increasingly promoted as a successful method of revolution. Recruiting sympathizers and motivating disparate groups into common action. The enemy of my enemy shares my goals of hegemony for my hegemony for my country and without coordination can disrupt the current governing bodies and move towards common ideals. Hmm. I haven't seen this phenomenon as strongly in non western now independent former colonies of Western Europe empires. He's talking about us. Perhaps newfound independence has its cultural virtues. No matter if 250 years ago or only 75 years ago, what country gained independence 75 years ago? It's always code with anonymous.

[B]

Yeah, there's a couple. Yeah, I mean I don't have any off the top of my head.

[A]

Have to ask Claude, but Claude wants to know more about you first.

[B]

Yeah, Claude wants to know what color my hair.

[A]

Oh, India and Pakistan. India and Pakistan. Yeah. Troublemakers, all of them. Troublemakers. Pseudonymous of Dogpatch in Lower Slovia. Thank you so much as always. He says no jingles, no karma. We appreciate the value you return and it makes us feel good because it makes us feel like we have actually delivered some good value to you, sir. Thank you, you very much.

[B]

All right, there we go. To an anonymous donor from Underhill, Vermont. Odd place. $1,000 in three. And he has a very lengthy note which I'll attempt to. Whoops, Let me get to it.

[A]

Yeah, redact on the fly.

[B]

And then again, I opened the note somewhere and now I can't find. Find it, why don't you? Do you have it open?

[A]

Yes, I do. ITM crackpot and buzzkill from Anonymous. This donation has been a long time in the making and is based on a promise I made myself in 2020. I am a Rogan donation going all the way back to Adam's first appearance. I was working on a real estate project at the time and I said, when this piece finally sells, I'm gonna send a good chunk to the boys and get myself one of them fancy night titles. Well, the time has come and I've closed on the property. I'm sending some well deserved treasury. Treasury, he says. Your way. He's a full blooded Gen X guy. Adam was a big part of my culture and of my stupid hair choices. He said. So. Hearing Adam in 2020 blew my mind. My wife and I were questioning the COVID narrative right out of the gate. And hearing you two break it all down over those crazy years meant the world to me. We, you know, it's always interesting, interesting that you know, we loved it during COVID but you're wrong on Israel, you're wrong on Trump, you're wrong on all that. Okay. We live in California adjacent Vermont. It's pretty much full blown bunch of commies that still wear masks and their Teslas with stickers on the back saying, I bought this car before I knew he was a Nazi. This is kind of a good note. Much like John, I'm a stranger living in a foreign land. Ah, John's assimilated. What are you talking about?

[B]

But it's just I was born in California.

[A]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Assimilated. But it's just too beautiful to leave. We are living the no agenda prescribed lifestyle. We grow our own gardens, have chickens, bees and our own beef herd. We are homeschooling our kid and he has a killer work ethic. I'm a lifelong self employed tradesman and my son is working with me and will continue the business. Adam, you will be glad to hear our family has accepted Jesus Christ as our Lord and savior. Hands down, the best move of my life. Wow. I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for all the joy and laughter you've brought me over the past five years. Is it back to both of us? The only way to look at this crazy world is with a critical eye and a sense of humor. And you too do it better than anyone else. The circle jerk of podcasters gets old quick and you guys have a knack for this that will never be able to be reproduced. Okay then he has a whole bunch of stuff here. But what he did want to is, well, he wanted a 33. 33. 33. That is a robbery donation. That has not been achieved. We have reserved that for robbery donations. I will give you a 33 magic number jingle. He also wants an Obama, you might die. And he will be knighted. And he would like to be known as fried guy under the hill. And he would like raw milk and grass fed steak at the table if possible. Yes, absolutely. And we thank you sir, much for your support of the best podcast in the universe. You might die.

[B]

Onward with Sir Eternus. Is this Queevy Quavy Quavi Quivy Quavi Laredo, Texas.

[A]

Queevy Queevy.

[B]

That's one of your buddies.

[A]

I'm not familiar with with this buddy, Sir Eternus.

[B]

Quibby Adam.

[A]

Yes, Adam.

[B]

What do you think about all the luxury hotel thingies in Fredericksburg? Kind of lame. Love you guys.

[A]

Kind of lame.

[B]

Love you guys for being the best ever. Well, 500 bucks. That's a big donation. So you have to answer that question.

[A]

Yes, I'm happy to answer questions. There is no stopping this. We have a huge shortage of beds in Fredericksburg. People love coming here. We have a lot of drinking barns that cover as wineries. And I love that we have kept our main street, our town old school. No big boxes, no big hotels. So it's all being built outside. No, it's all being built outside of. Of the. Of the of town. And, and it's good because we had str laws here. Short term rentals, also known as Airbnbs. And it's just crazy. And so you can't buy a house and the kids can't buy a house because everyone's turning it into Airbnb. So I'd much rather people come and stay at a hotel. So it's fine. Is great. Fredericksburg is fantastic. We love our tourists when they leave. Wow. Then we drop right away to Associate executive producer. $250 for Sir Commodore J. Stroke from Norton, Ohio and he says, hey, I love the Swarm Forge episode. The show was roller coaster ride but showed why you guys are the best. That's why I Listen to you guys more than my wife. Okay. No wonder he has he's using his night name. The pregnancy in space theory has remembering my old. The old Muppets bit. Pigs in space. Yes, of course I remember that. I appreciate you and John calling each other out. Keep griping. It's great entertainment. Anyway, I'm sending in some value. I would like to credit a portion of my donation to George the neighbor. $50. He shouldn't be listening in. Douchebag status. 50 to Robin the daughter. Don't skip over the donation segment. 50 to cap and Canoe. He knows who he is. And 50 to Chupaca Cabra Canoe. I love those guys. I'm hitting people in mouth. I am doing the work. I am not a slacker. I appreciate the tips. And Eli the coffee guy, he sends a note with every order. Such a great connection. Can I please get an oba? Can I please get an Obama phone? Lady? Thank you for your courage, sir. Commodore J. Stroke. Everybody in Cleveland, low minority got Obama phone. Keep Obama in president. You know he gave us a phone.

[B]

Yeah, borderline racist.

[A]

Oh, please. She said it.

[B]

Yeah, she did say it. Eli the coffee guy who was mentioned in the previous note in Bensonville, illinois, comes with 20122. And he says, watching the Davos crowd. Davos, Davos crowd sit there nodding while being told they were stupid for buying expensive windmills from China was pretty entertaining. Yeah, these are the people who think they run the world and they just got reminded who the big dog is. Europeans may want to overpay for windmills, but producers should not overpay for good coffee. Plus, we just released a new Kenyan.

[A]

Coffee in our Black Bag Bag series. I've tried. Have you tried it?

[B]

Actually, I have it in the machine right now.

[A]

It's good.

[B]

Visit Gigawatt Coffee Roasters.com and use code ITM20 for 20% off your order. Stay caffeinated, says Eli the coffee guy.

[A]

Yeah, it's an outstanding product, as is the product from Linda Loupatkin, who's in Castle Rock, Colorado. She always asks for jobs Karma. And she says for a competitive edge with a resume that gets results, go to ImageMakers Inc.com for all of your executive resume and job search needs. That's Imagemakers Inc. Ink with a K. And work with Linda Liu, Duchess of jobs and writer of winning resumes. Jobs, Jobs, Jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. Lisa Karma.

[B]

We had a bank check from Steven Spiegel in Fairport, N.Y. $200. No note was sent alongside. And so we'll give him a double up karma.

[A]

We sure will. You've got double up karma. And that's it for executive and associate executive producers. We single these people out because they are fortunate enough to be able to support it with big support us with bigger amounts. $200 or more. Get you an associate executive producership and we will read your note. 300 and above Executive Producer and we will read your note. These are real credits, showbiz credits that work especially in the showbiz realm, such as IMDb.com you may already be listed in there. Friend of the show appears to be listing people just to make sure you do it. But you can use it anywhere. You can use it. You could even use it at the Piano bar in Davos. Hey, I'm an executive producer of no Agenda show. Oh, how much? Okay, I'm sorry, it's too much. Go to noagendadonations.com to support the show. We will thank the rest of our supporters $50 and above in our second segment. Thank you so much for understanding the value for value model. There's no ads, there's no corporate interests. There's nothing that can sway us from speaking our minds, speaking what we believe to be true and hon honest every single show. That's what you deserve from a good podcast. Noagendashow.com, no agenda donation. No agenda donations.com. you can support us with any amount. We love the numerology. Anytime you want to. Now is a good time. In fact, go to noagendadonations.com and keep supporting the show. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Shut up slave. Shut up slave. I I, I, I forgot to bring this up before the break when we were talking about technology. Have you heard of Donut Lab?

[B]

Donut Lab.

[A]

Yes. Donut.

[B]

That's something the police department does.

[A]

No. Donut lab.com get ready to roll your eyes. They have launched and it's in production. So it's not vaporware. The world's first all solid state battery in production vehicles that hold a 400 watt hour per kilogram charge or energy density I think it's, I should call it which, which seems to be close to revolutionary.

[B]

I'll have to look into it.

[A]

Yeah. Donutlab.com because you know, I'm the guy that says all these flying cars and all this nonsense is bull crap.

[B]

But well, even before that, even when they were running flying cars with motors, it was bull crap. So I don't think a longer lasting battery fault flying car is going to be any good?

[A]

No, it's a very, there's a very big difference what you can do with electric motors in eight aviation, particularly in Horizon, you know, in a vertical, vertical takeoff. Very big difference what you can do with, with electric engines and propellers versus combustion for a whole bunch of different reasons. But if they can really get this. And you know they say a five minute charge, full charge in five minutes, limitless cycles, cheaper and safer than lithium ion.

[B]

Yeah, sure.

[A]

I told you would roll your eyes. Well, hey, my big gripe has been battery technology that was promised has not improved. These guys seem to think they have.

[B]

It because battery technology was perfected in the late 1800s.

[A]

Right. But how does a solid state battery even, even work?

[B]

I don't know what they mean by. Maybe they're talking about a capacitor, you know, which can charge pretty quickly. You know, super cap. I mean, that's possible.

[A]

Yeah, they don't see.

[B]

I do have a. Well, I'll look into it and we'll talk about it.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Maybe get some clips.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

But I have a point of reference that we have to discuss.

[A]

I'll get some battery clips. Okay.

[B]

Get some battery clips.

[A]

You clearly want to talk about something else.

[B]

Well, I don't want to talk about anything. I don't, I don't know jack about the donut battery. So what am I going to do? I can't talk about it.

[A]

What do you have?

[B]

One of our producers wrote in a note noticing that the two of us were you mainly or me mainly? I don't know because I haven't been able to spot it saying, by the way, on the show, ah, did I.

[A]

Do it this time?

[B]

I still can't hear it. I only time I heard it was when we were looking for clips for the last show and the, and you said it and you know, you're doing a needle drop to find a clip and you said by the way in there. I said, there it is. But I can't. I have not heard it on the show even though this guy's documented it.

[A]

I'm glad you brought this up because I'd even forgotten we talked about it. And I, and I was the first one to say, I need to stop this. That is a very bad habit. And I'm sure I'm saying it more than you are.

[B]

Well, it's got to stop. I don't know. But the problem is I can't stop it because I can't hear it. I have yet to, to hear it on today's show. The last show. The show before that. I've never heard it. Except like I said by accident that I. So I figured I'll throw a couple of these out there because these are the kind of things you like to. And moan about. We, we try to correct it. We don't say at the end of the day anymore.

[A]

No, no, pretty much.

[B]

And that's being said all over the place still. Mimi's bitching about it. She says that's what you should bitch about any of the day. And so. And so that's being said all over. But the thing, the two I've noticed that have cropped up all over the place, especially on Fox.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Is to your point.

[A]

Ooh, that's an ugly one.

[B]

And they're saying it constantly. And then I was listening to Nick Fuentes on the Tim Pool cast.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And he's not only said to your point, he said it twice in one sentence. Sentence. Well, he said to your point. And to your point.

[A]

Well, this is interesting. This is interesting. I'm looking at the Bingit IO Clip Genie.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so you can search by an exact term, putting it in quotes. Episode 1827, it was done 17 times. 1826. 18 times. 1825. 21 times. Ooh, 1823. 13 times. So we do seem to skip it from time to time. I don't see anything after 1827, which is interesting. I don't know why, but these numbers are off the chart. And I guarantee you it's me. Let me see. Let's do a needle drop on this. That's interesting. I don't know why it wouldn't be after 1827 because we've had nine episodes since. Since then. So I think it would have. Would have been in there.

[B]

Well, it should be because the guy caught it three episodes ago.

[A]

Hmm. So what is this? Let's listen to this. Oh, media could not be loaded. What? What's failing? Oh, something's failing. Oh, Linux. No, it's not.

[B]

Wait, let me finish my little mic.

[A]

Okay, sure. Yeah.

[B]

I know you're not on Linux. I'm just joking. So to your point. And you hear it all the time. To your point.

[A]

To your point.

[B]

Why are they saying that? So many. And here's the one that really gall. It's just like, when did this show up as a throwaway? These are throwaway lines that people use for filling.

[A]

Well, can I just stop there? Let's just stop it. To your point. To your point. When someone says to your point, it means shut up. I have a better point. I Think that's what that means?

[B]

Well, maybe to your point and the one that's always getting me now, that's just because I keep hearing it. It's. They. They're the cnn. By the way, to your point, I.

[A]

I blame on you just said, by the way. I just.

[B]

Oh, good.

[A]

I just caught you saying it. Great, great. Five lashes.

[B]

And so the one I'm hearing on CNN end is the other side.

[A]

The other side. That as in the other side.

[B]

Back to you after we're going to come back from the other side. The other side. They keep referring when you go to a commercial break. Yeah, they throw to it as we're going to talk about this on the other side. Oh, that's Adam. Adam, hold off on that thought. We'll get to it on the other side.

[A]

Oh, that's their version of we'll be back in two and two as Chuck, I guess.

[B]

But it's the other side. Keep saying the other side as though there's some side.

[A]

So we've lost the art of the tease is what you're telling me. They don't know how to tease anything more. It's just.

[B]

Yeah, that's definitely it. I would say that's a negative tease because it doesn't tease.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

We'll get back to you on the other side.

[A]

Oh, man, there's been so many who did. No clicking. No clicking. Was that Stevie Colbert?

[B]

No, I think that was Larry Sanders.

[A]

Oh, you're right. Right, Larry.

[B]

It was done as a joke.

[A]

Fake show. Yes, fake show. Yeah, because people used to use the other. I've heard the other side used before a long time ago. It's just making a resurgence. But it's fake and gay. It's no good. I mean, the fact that you have to take a break anyway. Just be like a podcast and just interrupt the content conversation. Like most podcasts. I mean, the Joe Rogan show. It's. It's unlistenable on the podcast. It's. And it's in the YouTube too. Like just breaks in middle of a conversation.

[B]

It's when. So these are those insert inserts.

[A]

Yes. Dai dynamic ad insertion.

[B]

You just insert in the middle of word.

[A]

No, they. No, it's usually when someone takes a pause and someone takes a breath.

[B]

I've heard it right in the middle of a word on some of these YouTube videos. Not on his. But.

[A]

Yeah, but he. Because his are inserted. I think it's a separate system. It's not the YouTube system. I'm not sure. But it's annoying and you know, this is the big. They just had the big Pod Fest in Orlando. Podfest. You going to podfest? No, but it's podfest.

[B]

I didn't even hear.

[A]

Oh, podfest. Everyone's going to podfest. Oh, it's a podfest. And we all talk talk about AI at podfest.

[B]

So did you get any reports?

[A]

Yeah, we're talking about AI and video. Video. Video is video. That's. There's your report from podfest. But the other thing is listeners are getting tired of the ad load. The ad load.

[B]

Oh, I like that term, ad load.

[A]

Ad load in my pants load. Yes. The ad load is too heavy. And what happens is you get the same ad load as AM or FM radio. That's where it's going because there's unlimited supply, which means you have to have more ad load to make the same amount of money. It's an. It's a spiral.

[B]

The death spiral.

[A]

It is a death spiral. And why do you need. I have a report which I have not seen anywhere. It's kind of relevant to Greenland, although not really. Although part of the. Relevant to the narrative. But I did not know this happened around 3pm on January 18th. The largest rare earth refining and processing plant in China exploded. It was the Baotou Baogang rare earth steel plate factory in Inner Mongolia. The sound was deafening and in an instant, a huge shock wave sent a circular storage tank flying into the air. The tank shot up dozens of meters high before falling back down, leaving a massive crater. When it hit the ground, a white mushroom cloud rose into the sky, visible for miles around. It happened during work hours with many people in the factory. Surveillance footage shows a bright flash of light bursting from inside the plant, followed by by a loud thud. The area was instantly engulfed in thick smoke with steel beams, iron pieces and debris flying everywhere. The explosion severely damaged the plant buildings. The control room collapsed and the iron door of the high pressure chamber was blown several meters away. Videos posted by netizens show thick smoke lingering over the site. Nearby residential buildings had their windows shattered by the blast. Did you hear about this?

[B]

No, but that had to be a hydrogen tank or something. It was circular.

[A]

Yeah, you can see it shooting up in the air. It looked like a barrel sized thing. Yeah.

[B]

How.

[A]

What is. What is the process of refining?

[B]

I don't know. Now that you mention it. I'd be very interested in figuring it out because there's. I can imagine them using some gases to.

[A]

Well, they're talking about high pressure door and all this stuff. Yeah, that would be hydrogen because that's what we've always heard is that the rare earth is like, okay, the rare earths aren't the problem. It's the processing of the rare earth.

[B]

And this pain in the ass.

[A]

It seems to be a dangerous pain in the ass. It looks like it, yeah. So. But if this is their largest rare earth processing, you'd think that might be important for the news.

[B]

You think that they'd cover something like that?

[A]

I have two Zoomer Gen Zoomer vs Boomer stories I'd like to share.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And we say this with love and respect for our Zoomers. We just want to try and educate you. We're not laughing at you. We're laughing with you. I run a sales team for a mid sized company that provides payroll and benefit services exclusively in the US Recently, I was on a Zoom call with one of my Gen Z reps and a prospective client. During the conversation, it became clear that the prospect also needed services in Canada. Since we only operate in the United States. I ended the call early. Afterwards, my Gen Z rep asked why we couldn't help them. I explained that Canada has different employment laws and operates in a different currency. She asked what I meant by different currency. Exactly my response. So I clarified that Canada uses its own money. She was genuinely surprised and asked if other countries also don't use US US dollars and instead have their own currency. It was an unexpected reminder of how different generational experiences can shape baseline knowledge. This has to be an education issue.

[B]

Oh, it has to be. I don't. Has nothing to do with the generation.

[A]

It's that. I mean, that's just. But she's a rep. She's a sales.

[B]

Rep. She's got far enough along in her life that she's got a real job.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Doing real work.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And. And making real money.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But she doesn't think. She somehow thinks that the US dollar is the world's currency, which, in. In a funny way it is, but not the way she thinks.

[A]

No. Well, it soon will be. Once the stablecoin gambit kicks in.

[B]

We'll see.

[A]

The other one was a personal experience. And I'm not laughing. Well, yeah, you are. Yeah, I'm laughing. Laughing. So I'm having coffee with Parker. Parker's 30. He's here in Fredericksburg. Then, you know, I. We have coffee once a week. And he sent a donation in a couple weeks ago. I remember sending three in.

[B]

Is he a Zed?

[A]

He's 30. He's a Zetter. And he says, by the way, I can prove that John is lying.

[B]

He Uses.

[A]

He uses his phone all the time. The time. I'm like, he does? No, I don't believe that. Yes, he does. Because he even has on his email, it says sent from his phone, which is, you know, I've been. Been complaining about people with sent from my iPhone.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I said, let me pull up an email. Oh, you mean it says sent from his Bakelite phone? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the one.

[B]

One letter at a time. You gotta put that in there.

[A]

I had to show him a picture of what a Bakelite phone is. Oh, oh, oh. He says, oh, okay, I get it. Another thing that is just. It's lost the history, the concept of a Bakelite phone. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

I kind of like that. If it said landline, it would not be the phone that he's talking about.

[A]

No, but it's just.

[B]

Yeah, I can see this being lost. It's got to be lost. This is an inside joke for old, older people, let's face it.

[A]

Yeah, it is. It is.

[B]

Well, we added to the list of things that the zetters need to get their act together about.

[A]

Well, I don't know how important it is for them to know that, but I think it's good for general all round education probably just to know these things. Just maybe me. And then another local story which we have covered before. I think it happened around the COVID era. I find this to be somewhat concerning, as does our agriculture guy here in Texas. Where did this come from? What is this for? That's the reaction from Michelle's Shoulders after an unexpected envelope showed up in her mailbox filled with mystery seeds. The in a package. You want to open it up and see what's in there. And then there's these seeds. And you'd like, where did these come from? These are the ones that were being delivered to people that. That's exactly what we got. Shoulders runs Little Milliken Farms. And she tells me this wasn't a one time delivery. She's now received several packages, each one raising more questions. There's no identification to know anything about them. So it's kind of scary. Those unanswered questions, according to Texas Agriculture Commissioner Sid Miller, are exactly the problem.

[B]

We call those mystery seeds because we don't know what they are.

[A]

Miller tells me that seeds come directly from China, unlabeled and unsolicited.

[B]

Could be a COVID variant. It could be anthrax or ricine or.

[A]

Cholera or some kind of other bacteria or virus. Cholera that you can't see with the naked Eye. Since February of last year, the state has collected more than 1100 seed packets. Just this week, Miller's office confirmed three new reports. Twelve seed packets sent to residents in Waco. What if your kids broke into. Or your dog broke into it and it was something that was poisonous? You don't know. The Texas Department of Agriculture is urging Texans not to open, plant, or throw them away. Instead, report the packages immediately. They're not sending these over so we.

[B]

Can improve our crop system. You know, there's something behind it, and.

[A]

I hope we find out what it is. Prayerfully, it's not going to be anything that's going to be really detrimental to us. Yeah, I know this happens, but it's. I find this annoying that the Chinese are doing this and they can't even identify what these seeds are.

[B]

Oh, please.

[A]

What, this?

[B]

There's no way they can't identify this. Do they take. Did anybody take them to the University of Texas in Austin and maybe to a plant guy and say, what are these seeds? And maybe grow a sample of them? There's no reporting on this. It was. I know about this. There's been no reporting in any way. It's just a big scare and scare them, Ooh, the Chinese are sending a seeds. Maybe it's a terrible weed or some invasive species. I'd like to know specifically what it is. It is something.

[A]

Well, we have the same complaint. That was the agriculture guy who was talking about cholera. Was the agriculture guy that got there. He was. I don't know.

[B]

It could be a cholera seed. Could be a Covid seed. Could be Covid seed. You put it down, you get Covid. What? That guy?

[A]

That guy nailed it. Doing more of him. He's good. More of him. Come on, do more.

[B]

Well, I can talk like this all you want, but I'm telling you, these seasons no good, because they're coming in from China. Could be anything.

[A]

You. You're hired. The guy was literally sitting in his truck doing that. I know. I'm. I'm in full agreement with you. It's very annoying. Very, very annoying. Anyway, let's see. I do have. Just because this is. I think this is being misreported. Is this Board of Peace that Rubio seems to be running. To me, it feels like this is going to be a new United nations type of organization. Organization that they're setting up. I have a clip of him at Davos. He had a rather long. Davos. Here it is. This is not just a board of peace. This is a board of action. Action. Just like President Trump is a president of action action speeches. I've been to many of these forums and they're not useless and they're not, you know, not. They have utility. But oftentimes international affairs, we often find ourselves at events where people are reading these scripted statements, these strongly worded letters that they put out, but no action. Nothing happens. This is a group of leaders that are about action. And the president, United States is a president of action, of getting things done. And today is the beginning of that, of a new era and a new stage that we think is so important as a model to the rest of the world of what is possible. And clearly the focus is right now on Gaza and making sure that the plan that's about to be presented to you here today, this vision for the future of Gaza, this vision for the future of the region, is not just possible and promising, it is our destiny if we put the time and the effort that it requires, as I know this board will do. But I also think it will serve as an example of what's possible in other parts of the world. So here without losing focus. So this is our audience. Our audience in the trom is like a billion dollar entry. What a joke. Yap yap yap yap, Heil Rubio hail. It's like, just listen to him. He's completely brainwashed. Our vision for somebody else's region. I mean this is, I think this is a good idea. I like this idea of a board of peace circumvent the whole United nations circus, which it is, and have a bunch of dudes from countries sitting together and going like what do are to we going going to do here like Starfleet Command. Your thoughts, Mr. Dvorak?

[B]

I'm not going to argue at all because I think the United nations should be folded.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I never used to think that when I was in college at the University of California and we had a right wing bookshop, we had the John Birch Society bookshop in the nearby town in a racist, racist John Birch that had bumper stickers all over his windows that were all birch bumper stickers. And looking back on him, he was right.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Including get the U.S. out of the U.N. right.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, that was, that was another bumper sticker. I recall that, I remember that as a bumper sticker.

[B]

And there was two of the anti UN One was get the US out of the UN and the other one was Communism was another bumper sticker that they had. I wish I had those. I'd collected those. Those are pretty funny.

[A]

Can you put your hands on them? No, no. Didn't think so. All right, let's wind this down, Johnny boy. I'm sure you have something else fun that we can talk about before we go.

[B]

Well, I have a. I have the Bari Weiss is a spook clip that showed up.

[A]

Ooh, ooh, she's a spook.

[B]

These are actually a couple of clips. These are from Tim Pool. This is your buddy Tim Pool. And Fuente's is on Tim Pool. So create some.

[A]

The circle jerk continues.

[B]

Yes, and yes, it does. But Tim. But I would. This little lecture on Barry Weiss I thought was good. But before we play that, yes, I want to play a very short Tim Pool clip. Tell me what you think makes him sound like a douchebag on this Tim Pool poker clip. But they're both really cool. Even, you know, someone told Ken that I was badmouthing him. I like never. I was like I said you were my best friend.

[A]

He's a liberal.

[B]

He doesn't like me. He's always complaining about.

[A]

About the videos I make. But yet we joke with each other. He.

[B]

We get. We get along. He's like, we talk more than anybody.

[A]

When we're at the poker room.

[B]

And then south never says anything about.

[A]

Politics because he knows it's gonna go.

[B]

Off, you know, but it's.

[A]

It's good fun.

[B]

Everybody gets along.

[A]

Funny story is we were playing poker. It's a 25 game. So it's a thousand dollar buy in and we're all talking politics. Yeah. Thousand dollar buy in would be the douchebag clip. Thousand dollar. It's a thousand dollar buying. I just slam that down whenever I have to, baby. It's a thousand dollar buy. I'm playing poker for a thousand dollars dollars because I get my money. I get paid. Yeah.

[B]

It's actually kind of misleading. But. But I thought it was douchey. But here is. They go back and forth and then all of a sudden out of the blue, Fuentes, who's in the group, he's just one of the many people in that. In this discussion on Tim Pool irl, which is on Rumble. Listen to this, though. This was interesting.

[A]

Sean McGuire, Bill Ackman. These guys are not white nationalists now. They're. They're like 90s, these liberals, and they get mad at Trump when he wants mass deportations, you know, so it's not like they. It's not like they became base defenders of Western civilization. Unless you're Sean McGuire who said we should self consciously pretend to be defenders of Western civilization. Because Normie Republicans don't give a about Israel. But if we gesture towards the west, then we're going to get them on our side. So I think it's a very subversive move. You really peel back the layers. Barry Weiss, Yoram Zone. They only care about Israel. She's an Israeli spy. Yor Missoni lives in Israel. That is what they are about. Barry Weiss is an Israeli spy. Oh, yeah. I mean, if you know her pedigree, absolutely.

[B]

Was it.

[A]

So after high school she went to Israel and did a fellowship and said she learned how important Israel is. She goes to Columbia University where she starts up the David Project and tries to get all these pro Palestine professors fired in the Middle east studies department. Goes back to Israel Studies under Yoram Hazoni at the Shalem Center. Then she gets hired right out of that program by Brett Stevens, who's like one of the most well known neocons. Gotta start at Jerusalem Post. Then Murdoch owned Wall Street Journal. She, he picks her up as her mentor. Then he takes her to the New York Times. That's where she gets her start. Then she starts, starts Free Press and she gets money from Peter Thiel, Mark Andreessen, Joe Lonsdale. Joe Lonsdale's like a super Zionist is Peter Thiel. Oh, yeah, he's in business with Alex Karp, who said he, his biggest fear is Christian nationalists are going to defenestrate him because he's a Jew. Defenestrate? Yeah. Throw him out of a window. Yeah. I don't know if she's a spy other than an activist.

[B]

You know, he's, I think he had, he just off the top of his head, he rattled off off all this material. I just think you're a fanboy.

[A]

You love, you love. What's his name?

[B]

Fuentes.

[A]

You love him. You love. You're a fanboy.

[B]

I think he's fabulous, but he's, you know, but I think he might be a spook.

[A]

Fuentes.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, he went on a back and forth with Tucker about, you're a fed. I'm a fed, You're a fed. I, you know, I thought you were a fed. I thought you were a Fed. And Tucker on the into the mic says, no, I'm, I, I can tell you I'm not a fed. Fuente's never denied it.

[A]

They're recruiting him pretty young. He's good, he's good. But you know, spy spooks don't typically have the, the public jobs. They're spook adjacent. They. Yeah, okay, you're right, you're right.

[B]

You're Right.

[A]

Right.

[B]

You're right. You're right.

[A]

He could be an asset.

[B]

Asset's different. It's different. And she might be too. Yeah.

[A]

I mean, for all I know, you might be an asset. I don't know.

[B]

I. I guarantee I'm not you. Well.

[A]

What? Good. That's what I would say if I was an asset. I'm not an asset.

[B]

No, I'm not. You know. And you know I'm not.

[A]

Yeah. Do I? You know I'm not. What's the correct answer? Yes, I know you're not my handler. By donating to no Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.

[B]

Yeah. We do have a few more people to thank. Spooks or not spooks? Probably not spooks because they're not donating that much. But they're donating a lot, especially Dame Rita, who's coming up on the listener. Adam's gonna read the list off, starting with her.

[A]

Well, yes, I am. John. We're right back on the other side.

[B]

And Adams, right now, he's going to do it.

[A]

That's right. We're back on the other side with J. Rita from Sparks, Nevada. 133. 33. And she says she always looks forward to our excellent deconstruction. There's Nathan Cochran from Mercy Me. They got a new movie coming out, by the way. The Mercy Me Boys. They got good. Yeah. Yes, it's. It's the follow up to their first successful hit movie. I can only imagine. 1. 2. 3.45. He seems to be the only one of the group still that donates frequently. Hey, look at this. Dame Meowderson comes in with 11727 and she says, it is I, Dame Miaudison. And with this donation of 11133 plus fees, I crossed the threshold to become Countess Meowderson. Life has not become extra busy lately, so I've missed some shows here and there or life has become extra busy. But I'll do my best to stay current. I did not miss that Samsung TV tip and subsequently purchased said tv. So just ignore whoever.

[B]

Pooh, pooh.

[A]

The expensive tips.

[B]

It was an lg Just tv.

[A]

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[B]

Wow.

[A]

Dame Tanya Wyman. Good to hear from you.

[B]

She's coming back to the fold.

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Yes.

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She wants facts.

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She does. She got tired of the non facts. That's right. 69. 69. Christopher Walker in Monticello, Minnesota. 606. The small boobs. Same goes for Les Tarkowski in Kingman, Arizona. And Dame Liberty mom in Vista, California. She's got small boobs. Sends them to us. John hulsing in Chicago, Minnesota. 5678. And 5678 from John Tierney in Thompson, Connecticut. Scott Mengle in Exon, Pennsylvania. 5555. Andrew Foreman, Boca Raton. The Mouth of the Rat. 55 in Florida. Johan Segers in Brey in Belgia. 5432. I see the descending number there. Thank you. Kent O' Rourke in Frostburg, Maryland. 5272. Bob Newell in Penfield, Pennsylvania. 5250. Sir Henry and Ranchos, Palos Verde, California. 52. 42. Chris Perry, Silver Spring, Maryland. 51. 5. Forrest Martin, 5005. I don't know what kind of boob that is, but Andrew Ben said the same amount. 505 from Imperial, Missouri. Yes, Missouri. Ryan Aceto in Argyle, Texas. 50. These are the 50s. Terrence Boyer, Tuscola, Illinois. Andrew Gusek in Greenboro, North Carolina. Joy Padilla in South San Francisco, California. John Aiken in Babson Park, Florida. Carl Vogler in Dillon Beach, California. Jason Marrer in Vancouver, Washington. Leanne Shipley, Covington, Washington. And our final $50 supporter, Michael Myers. In Diamond Head, Missouri.

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Mississippi.

[A]

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You melt those down just like royalty to seal your important correspondence. And as always, it is accompanied by a certificate of authenticity signed by John and myself. Welcome to the roundtable, the no agenda nights and names. Well, today is the day, the big meetup in Sao Paulo, Brazil. So I don't really need to promote it because it probably is near nearing its end. The Boiling in the Brazilian heat meetup 6:33 in Sao Paulo at Pratina Restaurante bar. Oh, that didn't sound right. The Britalian is hosting it. So I'm just hoping we get a meetup report from that Sao Paulo meetup. Of course, these are the meetups where you go to meet people who listen to the show. They're all over the world as you can tell and we love it when you send US a meetup report. Include your server, of course. You can find all of [e-mail] these meetups are important for your sanity, for your health and for your protection. Because connection gives you protection. These people will be your first responders in any emergency. On Friday you can go to the Midwest Mid winter meetup at 6:30 and Ride's Banquet center in Fort Dodge, Iowa. Looks like. Oh, is that Charles? I'm trying to think. This should be big. This should be a big venue. Sunday, our next no Agenda episode, the Indy no Agenda still shining. New year meetup, three o' clock at the Blind Owl Brewery in Indianapolis, Indiana. They're always guaranteed to send us a very good meetup report. About a hundred people show up every single time. Coming up the rest of this month. January 29th, Alpharetta, Georgia, the 31st, Oakland, California and Wilmington, California. Looking ahead, man, we've got meetups all the way through. May go to noagendameetups.com that is where you will find every single meetup listed. It's very easy. It's just like TedX without all the bull crap. You just sign up, say I'm gonna do a meetup. That's right. Wherever you are, your house, local bar, just get it together, announce it. We'll announce it on the show and send us a meet up report. Noagendameetups.com they are always fun, always a party. Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days you wanna be where you won't be triggered or hell's lame. You wanna be where everybody feels the same.

[B]

It's like a party.

[A]

Coming up, some AI slop for the end of show mixes of course. And we have John's Tip of the Day, a big favorite amongst all the fans. But before we do that, we do like to pause and find something we're going to play at the very end of the show. It's known as the end of show ISO. I do have three here. I keep going first. I mean, do you want to do yours or are you still like.

[B]

I like you going. Going first.

[A]

Okay, well I will do mine first. Here we go. Thank you so much. Okay, that's just a kind of generic. Thank you so much. Nothing special. I have this one. Oh, that's wonderful. This one I think is actually a winner. Freedom of speech. I thought that was pretty good.

[B]

It's got to do with the show.

[A]

But okay, well, they don't all have to do with the show. You just made the that up as some bogus rule.

[B]

I've got three, too. Okay, let's start with belly.

[A]

That podcast was better than a slow belly rub. Yeah, see, that guy's voice is getting really old on me.

[B]

I'm not going to use it anymore.

[A]

Okay, good.

[B]

Except for today.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Darn doodle.

[A]

Golly, darn doodle. What a great podcast. Podcast. It's the same guy.

[B]

I said I'm not going to use him anymore. Okay, how many times do I have to tell you? Yeah, except for today. Okay, here he is again.

[A]

This should have won the Golden Globe. Well, since it's the last time we'll ever hear him, I'm going to go with that last one. Although I thought. Although I thought that was a little. Little nicer as a surprise. Surprising.

[B]

Woman screaming.

[A]

Yeah. Well, there you go. Hey, everybody, before we leave, it's time for John's tip of the day. And sometimes, Adam.

[B]

No, I feel obliged to do a Costco wine tip about once a month.

[A]

Yay. Yay. Costco wine tip. Everybody loves a Costco wine tip.

[B]

The thing is, the know you have to pick wines that, you know they have a ton of. And since they had pallets and pallets and pallets of this. Of this wine, then they were discounting it to $6. And I'm sorry, $6.98 or 99 cents, something like that.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

699. Cheap. It's a California Cabernet. It's not really a winery. It's just one of these. What you'd call one of these wines somebody put together and put a label on it. They made it themselves.

[A]

It's a blend.

[B]

Well, it's not a blend. It's Cabernet Sauvignon, but it's like a. It's not from a winery. It's from a packaging group.

[A]

It's a leftover. It's basically leftovers.

[B]

Not necessarily leftover, but you could say that. And sometimes the leftover wines are really expensive.

[A]

Well, you would never steer us wrong. So no matter what it is, it's going to. To be good. I liken the price.

[B]

It's actually quite good for 6.99. Whatever. It's. And it's called method.

[A]

Method meth. It's method method in a bottle.

[B]

Method Method. M E T H O D Cabernet Sauvignon California, which means that they brought in grapes from God knows where everywhere. But it's a mix of appellations of obviously. And it's 2022, and they had just tons of this stuff. And I said they had a Couple different wines in the big batches. And I, I, the one was 19 bucks and I said, you know, there's audience, they like the cheap stuff. Can this be good? So I bought a bottle to see. I was quite surprised on how good it was. Oh, it's, it's big. It doesn't have mega purple in it. You could see tell by the cork. So it hasn't been jacked up with a bunch of chemicals. Seems to be extremely well made. Has a nice finish, a nice flavor. For the price, it's ridiculously good. It's cheaper than those Bordeaux I've been pushing.

[A]

Yeah, it's cheaper than that Modavi stuff too. I just bought two bottles of the Modavi at the H E B. They were restocking your wine.

[B]

Yeah, the Modavi stuff is good. This is the cheapest we've had so far as a tip.

[A]

I mean, your wine tips really knock it out of the park every single time. I mean, you should just do wine tips all the time as far as I'm concerned. But it's kind of hard to do two a week, I guess. Is it? Well, yeah, because not without going to more expensive stuff. Like once you get to 25, 30.

[B]

Bottles, it's hard to find 699 wine. That's really good. As opposed to finding. Yeah, $40 wine. That's really good.

[A]

I can do that.

[B]

But nobody wants to hear.

[A]

No, no, we don't. That's like, like a thousand dollars tv. Nobody wants to hear that.

[B]

We got pushback on that tv.

[A]

Excuse me.

[B]

Consume tight.

[A]

I love this tip. Tina's going to Costco, I think this week, depending on the snow apocalypse and the ice storm of the century. But I will definitely ask her to pick. Does it come in, Are they individual bottles and you pick up.

[B]

No, it's individual bottles, but you might want to pick up two or three six pack.

[A]

A six pack. Give me a six pack of that stuff, baby. It's good stuff. Ladies and gentlemen, where else do you get the tip of the day? Only on no Agenda. Great advice for you and me. Just the tip with JCD and sometimes Adam. Created by Dana Bernetti. Yes, no agenda fun.com no agenda tipoftheday.com Great tips. Great tips. In fact, I think it's a bonus for people who stick around to the end of the show. If you just jump to the end to get the tip. Shame on you. You will get coal in your stocking next year. Which brings us to the end of this no Agenda episode. We hope you enjoyed the deconstruction of the media, which was, as always, they're poor at what they do and we just try to give you straight up the information and the fun stuff behind it with a couple of laughs. And we need you to support this [e-mail]. if you're listening live, please stay tuned because the farm team's coming up. We got planet rage with Larry and Darren and they'll be raging about something. What are you doing? Sound like a brain broken voice box. Hey, end of show mixes. Both of them are from mvp. They're sloppy. They're fun. Listen to all of [e-mail] coming to you from the heart of the Texas hill country here in Fredericksburg, Texas, where we love our hotels outside the city limits in the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

[B]

Dan from northern Silicon Valley. We've got no storm coming in. I'm John C. Dvorak.

[A]

Until Sunday, adios mo. Foes are Huey Hooey and and such. The gulf stream idling on the tarmac in the rain burning 40,000 gallons just to ease the planet's pain? We're soaring over borders that we say shouldn't exist? To meet the young global leaders in the Swiss mountain mist pack? The Prada parka and the digital id? We're the masters of the universe? The grandest hierarchy from the promenade to the bunker which rafting up the plan to save the little people from the choices that they can't understand? We're heading up to Davos where the air is thin and cold? Where the secrets of the century are bought and then they're sold? You'll own absolutely nothing and you'll find you love the thrill While we're dining on the summit and you're footing every bill? Shut up, slave and watch the snow fall down? The kings are holding corn in a tiny mountain town?

[B]

I've got the prompt, I've got the power? Generating anthems by the hour? 24 bars of a digital dream?

[A]

Feeding the trolls and the podcast stream? I'm a prompter, baby yeah, I'm the king?

[B]

Watch me make the algorithm sing?

[A]

Watch me make it sing? Watch me make it sing? Give me that slop?

[B]

That beautiful slop? Once I start cranking I'm never gonna stop it's so tap in tune for.

[A]

The end of the show I'm 78 and I'm ready to go? Ready to go.

[B]

Ready to go, to go?

[A]

Ready to go? Ready to go?

[B]

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