1837 - "Moral Injury"

Summary

No Agenda Show – Episode 1837 “Moral Injury”

Hosts: Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak
Date: January 25, 2026

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Overview

In episode 1837, “Moral Injury,” Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak deliver their usual “media assassination,” deconstructing major news narratives, dissecting government strategies, and mocking the mainstream media’s (M5M) coverage. Recorded during a widespread winter storm in the United States, the episode weaves in everything from weather discourse and AI skepticism to the fallout around ICE-involved shootings in Minnesota, government defense priorities, the politics of immigration, “woke” culture, and the emergent concept of “moral injury” as a diagnosable mental health condition.

Tone: Sharp, irreverent, sometimes satirical, always highly-perceptive—and engaging in classic No Agenda fashion.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Winter Storm: Weather Panic & Media Framing

• Adam and John kick things off with banter about the severe winter weather hitting the US, joking about food prep, freezer stockpiles, and how generators are always unused when finally purchased.
• They poke fun at how storms are covered as cataclysms that serve as “virtual disaster tourism,” critiquing weather channels and “weather junkies.”
• The hosts lampoon the repetitive framing of “extreme weather events” and “climate change” by both mainstream and international outlets.

Notable Quote:
"You buy the generator, it never flips on. That’s the reason you buy it. The minute you get it, it never flips on."
– John C. Dvorak (03:05)

2. US National Defense Strategy: A Shift in Priorities

• A discussion about the freshly unveiled Pentagon strategy focuses on the US pivoting toward homeland security and reducing explicit focus on China and Russia, with NATO allies expected to shoulder more defense burden.
• China slides to 'priority number two,' and mention of climate change is conspicuously absent—unlike in the 2022 version.
• The hosts review European media’s dramatic presentation, critiquing everything from background music to the lack of nuance in geopolitical reporting.

Notable Quote:
"So China slips to number two."
– John C. Dvorak (09:23)
"Number one is Merca. First the Western Hemisphere, but the European allies got to do their… Got to pull their own weight."
– Dvorak (10:07)

(08:20) – [France 24 Pentagon strategy segment]

3. Chinese Military Purges and Geopolitics

• The removal of top Chinese generals is discussed, interpreted as both anti-corruption and a consolidation of Xi Jinping's tightly held military control.
• Speculation ensues over leaks about China’s 2027 plans for Taiwan, and the ongoing global chip race (TSMC, Samsung, ASML/Netherlands restrictions).

Notable Quotes: "We can probably go two months just eating from the freezer… and then we just eat the dog."
– John C. Dvorak (02:23)
"I think these guys leaked the plans about 2027… I guess we’re gonna be ready to make our own chips by 2027. Will we?"
– Dvorak (12:39)

4. Technology: Linux Proliferation, Windows/Mac Frustrations, Cloud Skepticism

• John details his efforts to move their show production to Linux, relating the tribulations of integrating devices and software, and critiques both Microsoft and Apple for user-unfriendly developments (“pop-ups, ads, cloud confusion”).
• There’s a riff on the transition from capital expenditure (CapEx) to operating expenditure (OpEx) with software and cloud vendors—blaming rising costs and diminishing returns for cloud solutions.

Notable Quote:
"If people are so sick of Windows… it’s the pop up, it’s the ads, you gotta put it on the cloud… people are just sick of it. It sucks. It’s slow. It’s sluggish."
– John C. Dvorak (15:41)

5. Immigration, ICE, and the Minnesota Shooting Controversy

• Major segment: Deconstructing the shooting of Alex Jeffrey Preddy, a US citizen nurse killed by ICE in Minneapolis. Multiple mainstream and alternative narratives are explored, including police use of force, media framing (“he’s licensed to carry a gun!”), protestor motivations, and the push for National Guard activation.
• The hosts assert that physically interfering with federal law enforcement is a federal crime and criticize media/POD complex for ignoring legal realities.
• Broader implications: How ICE and law enforcement have become scapegoats/targets for both local officials and activist groups.

Key Timestamped Segments:

• MN Shooting First Report – [33:27]
• Deep Dive - [36:01 – 45:37]: Law enforcement, crowd control, accusations of excessive force
• Reflection on BLM/Black Community Participation – [47:00]: “You know why you’re not seeing a lot of black people out there protesting against ICE?... they got nothing for it. Democrats are courting their next voting block… now they want to lock in illegal immigrants.”

Notable Quotes:
"If you physically interpose yourself with law enforcement, that by itself is a federal crime. Done. So all bets are off at that point."
– John C. Dvorak (38:08)

6. Immigration as Weaponization & International Influence

• Adam and John discuss Peter Schweitzer’s new book, “The Invisible Coup,” about weaponized immigration as a strategy (referencing the Mariel boatlift, the Sao Paulo Forum, Mexican government efforts).
• Supposed collusion between foreign actors, U.S. parties, and activist networks aiming to manipulate US politics via mass migration.

Timestamps:

• Schweitzer’s Analysis – [55:02, 56:36, 57:35, 59:31, 60:28]

Notable Quote:
"Mexico has 53 consulates in the United States… in contrast, China and the United Kingdom have 6 and 7. I think the Trump is right. This is what ICE is going after."
– Dvorak (59:53/61:31)

7. Don Lemon, Protests, and Informants

• The hosts suggest Don Lemon is likely acting as a confidential informant (CI) for the FBI, given his proximity to recent church invasion protests and refusal to prosecute him outright.
• Discussion of the Face Act and inconsistent law enforcement in protest events.

Timestamps:

• Don Lemon segment – [63:19 – 68:46]

Quote:
"Says my producer said, Don, you’re a gay black man in America… I take some kind of pleasure in knowing that you were listening to me and Pastor Jimmy…"
– Don Lemon (67:22)

8. Language, Definitions, and Triggering the Audience

• The hosts muse on the definitions of “bigot” and “moral injury,” responding to feedback from listeners who take offense at their choice of labels.
• Commentary on how certain words (e.g., “niggardly”) are misunderstood and weaponized socially.

Quote:
"When I call you a bigot... it's based on the definition. You'll be so, so... you adhere to something minuscule and you think everything that's against your basic thoughts is bad. That is bigoted by definition."
– Adam Curry (22:37)

9. AI, Social Media, and Content Quality

• They discuss the explosion in low-quality AI-generated video content on YouTube and regulatory responses (e.g., the Defiance Act). Paris Hilton’s advocacy around deepfakes is lampooned.
• TikTok’s US future, new ownership structures, and the underlying battle over data and algorithmic control are scrutinized.

Critical Section:
"YouTube specifically does require any creator that creates an AI-generated video to say so… but it’s all slop."
– John C. Dvorak (78:32)

10. International Politics: Ukraine, Russia, and Europe’s Disarray

• Ukraine peace talks, US and EU stances, and on-the-ground military updates from Davos and via analysts like Col. Douglas MacGregor.
• Yanis Varoufakis (Greece’s former finance minister) denounces the EU’s structure and prospects (137:35), predicting political fragmentation and global irrelevance.
• The hosts ridicule the “banter ban” in UK law and muse about the slow-motion collapse of certain western institutions.

Quote:
"This fragmentation means you can see Trump appears. Trump loathes the European Union… I’m saying with pain in my heart that Europe is simply slipping into irrelevance."
– Yanis Varoufakis [137:35]

11. Medicalization of ‘Moral Injury’

• Breaking news: The APA rolls out “moral injury” as a diagnosable mental disorder—defined as psychological harm from violating one’s own moral code.
• The hosts see this as a vector for wider medicalization and pharmaceutical intervention in everyday emotions.

Quote:
"Moral injury. It is psychological harm incurred from committing, witnessing, or being subject to actions that violates one’s moral code... a mental condition, moral injury."
– John C Dvorak (146:45)

12. New Technology Nuggets & Skepticism

• Flying cars: Skepticism around Alef’s “model A” flying car—a likely vaporware/screen for raising investment, not a legitimate product.
• New battery tech: Audience contributions dissect recent claims of revolutionary battery performance, with John and Adam probing scientific and engineering doubts.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• “You buy the generator, it never flips on. That’s the reason you buy it.” (03:05)
• "If you physically interpose yourself with law enforcement, that by itself is a federal crime.” (38:08)
• “I think we could go for a couple of months. Dog’s looking at me right now like, what?!” (02:23)
• "Europe does not have the capacity to create a military industrial complex. It will never have the capacity… I’m saying with pain in my heart that Europe is simply slipping into irrelevance." – Yanis Varoufakis (137:35)
• “Mexico has 53 consulates in the United States… in contrast, China and the United Kingdom have 6 and 7.” (59:53)
• "Moral injury. It is psychological harm incurred from committing, witnessing, or being subject to actions that violates one’s moral code... a mental condition." (146:45)
• “Don Lemon is a CI for the FBI. There’s no doubt in my mind about this.” (63:19)
• "You want to be where you won’t be triggered or hella lame. You want to be where everybody feels the same." – Meetup jingle, recurring theme

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Important Timestamps

• Winter Storm / Weather Panic: 00:55 – 07:00
• US Defense & China Pivot: 07:35 – 12:39
• China/Taiwan/Chips: 12:46 – 14:35
• Linux & Tech Rants: 14:49 – 18:22
• ICE/Minnesota Shooting (main segment): 29:44 – 47:32
• Peter Schweitzer/Weaponized Immigration: 55:02, 56:36, 57:35, 59:31, 60:28
• Don Lemon as FBI CI: 63:19 – 68:46
• Defining “Bigot”: 22:16 – 23:39
• TikTok/AI/Paris Hilton: 78:32 – 84:13
• Europe/EU Collapse (Varoufakis): 137:35 – 139:52
• ‘Moral Injury’ as a Disorder: 145:52 – 147:23

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Episode Highlights / Unique Commentary

• The episode is notable for its deep dive into media narratives surrounding immigration enforcement, and how protests and policy are weaponized or manipulated in the public eye.
• Adam and John’s irreverent tone remains but is paired with strong legal and historical analysis—particularly when they call out deliberately overlooked or misrepresented facts (e.g., what constitutes a federal crime, the historical roots of weaponized migration).
• The “moral injury” discussion is also a standout, connecting the dots from academic research (Harvard/APA) to pharmaceutical industry incentives and the expanding scope of mental health medicalization.

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Final Thoughts

If you missed this episode, you missed:

• The hosts’ withering media critique on ICE, immigration, and local/state/federal interplay
• Sharp and unorthodox legal/historical breakdowns (with a side of dark humor)
• A relentless callout of bullshit—whether it’s about “flying cars,” government memos, protest narratives, or the new class of streaming “influencers”
• The debut of “moral injury” as a diagnosis—alongside plenty of self-aware, inside-baseball riffing on podcasting, media, and audience engagement

End-of-show ISO pick:
“They’ll never be able to replace these guys with AI.” (168:22)

Transcript

[Adam Curry]

I should mention, dogs do not dance.

[John C. Dvorak]

Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak, it's Sunday, January 25, 2026. This is your award winning Gibbonation Media Assassination Episode 1837. This is no agenda. Hunker down. And broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill country here in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody.

[Adam Curry]

I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where we can tell that the weather's hurting the show, I'm John C. Dvorak.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, people couldn't get outside to mail a check. It's horrible. I tell you, it's horrible. It doesn't matter. Hey, was it wasn't as bad. And it is bad.

[Adam Curry]

Well, okay. Well, yes, okay. We should explain to people outside the country.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well, I think this is international news.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. We have a big storm in the middle of the country here. It's kind of chilly here at 60.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, but shiver me timbers. Yeah, so it is. I think it's about 25 right now. That's cold. Yeah, for us. Well, yeah, it was, I think it was 14 or 16 last night.

[Adam Curry]

Too cold.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, but last night is when we got freezing rain and mixed with snow. And so it's just packed. It's just packed on top of everything. So we can't drive. We can't even get down our driveway. We could slide down the driveway, but we can't drive. So.

[Adam Curry]

But you're stuck there.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, kind of stuck. But we're ready for it.

[Adam Curry]

So how much. So without raiding the supermarkets, how much food? Because everyone raided the supermarkets. They're all. How much food do you think the average person has in their house already that they could hold out with?

[John C. Dvorak]

You mean actual food or peanut butter?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, food in the house.

[John C. Dvorak]

Or peanut butter. I mean, what counts as food?

[Adam Curry]

I count that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, I think if people really looked at what they have, they probably have enough for two weeks.

[Adam Curry]

That's what I'm thinking.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. And we were thinking, and if you.

[Adam Curry]

Have a big freezer, you can probably go longer.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, no, we could go two months if we justif we're just doing stuff from the freezer because we do the big, you know, we get the big shipment from KNC cattle. But even at a certain point we could eat the dog's food because she has that farmer's dog stuff. I'd eat that. And then we just eat the dog. So I think we could go for a couple of months. Dog's looking at me right now like, what? What did you just say?

[Adam Curry]

What?

[John C. Dvorak]

What did you. Yeah, funny enough, lots of power went out in Fredericksburg, but not, not at our place. Once again. Once again, the generator is not used.

[Adam Curry]

That's the reason you buy it the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Minute you get it. It never flips on. It's just not, not necessary. It's amazing. It really is amazing. But yeah, and it's weird. Like my buddy Dave In Alabama, it's 50 degrees. It's like this thing went right around Alabama. It's the weirdest thing.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. When kind of. It's a funny pattern. It's very strange.

[John C. Dvorak]

What I haven't heard though, and I've been.

[Adam Curry]

Global warming.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I haven't heard. I haven't heard that for sure. But I haven't heard the extreme weather event. That's typically what they roll out. I think it's. I think it's diminishing the whole.

[Adam Curry]

In fact, I think they're realizing that people are getting sick of hearing it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. There was something. I think I had a clip about this somewhere. I thought I had.

[Adam Curry]

Well, while you're looking for the idea of the weather report from npr, you can play that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let's see. Weather report, storm update. Oh, storm. Storm update.

[News Reporter]

A massive winter storm is sweeping through a huge swath of country from the southwest heading to the mid Atlantic and then up through the northeast this weekend with heavy snow and ice. Possible freezing rain and sleet is also expected in many states that could bring down trees onto power lines, leading to widespread power outages. Already thousands are without power in the southwest. National weather service meteorologist Josh Weiss.

[Interviewee / Expert]

So if people lose power, people can't.

[Adam Curry]

Get out of their homes because snow and ice is covering the roadways they.

[Interviewee / Expert]

Could be stuck in for several days without the ability to get warm.

[Adam Curry]

And it's going to be so cold. We've got sub zero wind chills that may reach as far south as Dallas, Memphis and Raleigh, North Carolina and all points north of there.

[Interviewee / Expert]

So people are trapped due to heavy.

[Adam Curry]

Snowfall and damaging freezing rain. This cold is going to linger all of next week, making a dangerous situation truly life threatening.

[News Reporter]

Thousands of flights have been canceled or delayed because of the storm.

[John C. Dvorak]

Mimi texted me. She texted me about three times a year. Usually one is, okay, time to do taxes. And then this is the first time this year. She's like, oh, Max Velocity says it's gonna be bad. She loves Max.

[Adam Curry]

She called me last. She says, oh, you think he's gonna be okay?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I appreciate, I appreciate her concern. She doesn't say. She doesn't text me like, are you gonna be okay? Just said, max Velocity says you're gonna die. Here it comes.

[Adam Curry]

Max Velocity.

[John C. Dvorak]

He's fun to watch because I'm always.

[Adam Curry]

Saying, you know, I've watched him a couple of times, but he's a little. He's a little too intense for my taste.

[John C. Dvorak]

A little.

[Adam Curry]

Okay. He's way too intense for my taste. And he's. And Mimi's just in love with this guy, and it's. And she thinks his reports are so dynamite, but they. They have nothing to do with anything she's doing. She's up in an area he doesn't cut. He's covering the Midwest mostly.

[John C. Dvorak]

She's just a weather. She's a weather junkie. I mean, I know people like this. She's a weather junkie. There are people who just, you know, there's a. On the YouTube TV, there's a. A quad screen. Squeen. Squeen. I keep saying squeam.

[Adam Curry]

I like this queen.

[John C. Dvorak]

I like the quad screen. That's what it's called now. Quad screen of weather Channel, Fox Weather. There's two other ones, and I'm sure people watch that all day long. Oh, weather. Whoa, look. Weather.

[Adam Curry]

Holy mackerel. Do you see the size of hail in Oklahoma?

[John C. Dvorak]

It's.

[Adam Curry]

It's size of a softball.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's a form of disaster tourism, you know, virtual disaster tourism. Because he always has the. The storm chasers and the storm chasers are now chasing snow. Yeah, we're in the snow right now. We're driving. It's snowy. Yep, it's cold. Back to you, Max. Anyway, I'm sure we will survive. If we don't get any more precipitation, we should be okay. I found my climate change things at the end of this clip because coming on the heels of the national security strategy is the new United States defense plan, which is just. Yes, that just came out just as stunning.

[News Reporter]

34 pages to outline the Pentagon's new national defense strategy and tell allies they need to handle their own security. The defense blueprint reinforces Trump's America first philosophy, making that clear from its opening line. For too long, the US Government neglected, even rejected putting Americans and their concrete interests first. Its primary concern is now security of the U.S. homeland and Western hemisphere, including narco, trafficking and immigration. It's a break from the 2022 report under the Biden administration, where China was described as the most comprehensive and serious challenge to US national security. Now, China is priority number two, and the report says the US should determine deter Beijing through strength, not confrontation.

[John C. Dvorak]

Our goal in doing so is not.

[News Reporter]

To dominate China, nor is it to strangle or humiliate them.

[John C. Dvorak]

Rather, our goal is simple to prevent anyone, including China, from being able to.

[News Reporter]

Dominate us or our allies. There's no mention of Taiwan in the report, despite US Intelligence believing China aims to take the island by force in the next year. As for the rest of the region, the document hints at a reduction of US Presence in the Korean peninsula, saying Seoul is capable of taking primary responsibility for deterring North Korea with more limited US Support. The message is clear. The US s allies will be expected to shoulder more of their own defense. That applies to Europe, too. Russia, which appears 18 times in the 2022 report, is now largely in the background and dubbed a persistent but manageable threat to NATO's eastern members, despite its ongoing war in Ukraine. And while climate change featured heavily in the 2022 report as a transboundary threat, four years on, it's not mentioned at all.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think they put that music in there to hijack the Europeans nervous system. It's very annoying.

[Adam Curry]

Where'd you get that clip?

[John C. Dvorak]

France 24. France 24. I think it's either that or. Yeah, France 24.

[Adam Curry]

Geez. And they produced it. That's weird.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, they do that all the time. It's horrible. They're going down the tubes. I mean, Euro News has got African dudes reading it, which kind of makes sense considering the population makeup of Europe these days, to be honest about it. So China slips to number two.

[Adam Curry]

What was number one? I couldn't figure it out.

[John C. Dvorak]

Number one is Merica. Merca. First the Western Hemisphere, but the European allies got to do their. Got to pull their own weight. We don't care. Yeah, it was kind of good. I like the pivoting a little bit away from China. Just in related news, you hear about the Chinese top guy in the military?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, they kicked him out. Him and another guy. There's hardly anyone left in that committee anymore.

[John C. Dvorak]

No.

[News Reporter]

Zhang Youxia was once the President's most trusted military general, his second in command. He's now been placed under formal investigation, accused of grave violations of discipline and violations of the law. Though the Defense Ministry has provided no details of the alleged misconduct, the drastic move lays bare major fractures within the military's most senior ranks. The 75 year old is one of just a few leading officers with combat experience. He joined the People's Liberation army in 1968, fought into.

[John C. Dvorak]

Maybe he's just too old.

[News Reporter]

China's war in Vietnam, and climbed the ranks to become Xi's most important ally in modernizing the pla, often taking to the international stage.

[Adam Curry]

We hope to communicate with the armed forces of various countries and will continue to deepen China Russia relations.

[News Reporter]

Another member of the Central Military Commission, Liu Zhenli, has also been placed under investigation by China's ruling Communist Party. Together, they were the two remaining leaders of its armed forces who had survived previous purges. After eight top generals were expelled back in October.

[John C. Dvorak]

Man, they're really doing something. Eight, so ten guys in total.

[News Reporter]

This latest crackdown leaves Xi Jinping in many so sole operational control of the pla, further consolidating his grip over the armed forces. Probes can last months or even years. Most are detained, found guilty and removed from their positions in the party.

[John C. Dvorak]

Guilty. What they don't know, they're not telling us.

[Adam Curry]

They never tell us anything. They just tell them they're found guilty. They probably are guilty of something. The Chinese have a tendency to be corrupt.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I have. I think I know what it might be. If this is like 20 more seconds. Listen to the very end here.

[News Reporter]

More than 200,000 officials have been expelled since Xi came to power in 2012, part of a broad anti corruption drive to root out graft. But it's also viewed by many as a way to ensure loyalty and make the military more combat ready. In recent years, China has ramped up military drills around Taiwan and the US Government says Xi has ordered the PLA to prepare to seize the island by force by 2027.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think that's it. I think these guys leaked the plans about 2027. We were hearing about that almost a year ago. The 2027.

[Adam Curry]

Even longer than that.

[John C. Dvorak]

2027. Oh, that's when it's going to happen. 2027. Get ready for China. And I guess we're going to be ready to make our own chips by 2027. Will we? Seems like. No, seems like you need. I mean that Samsung plant is. I don't think that's operational. The one up in Taylor, Texas.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, but that's not the same as the 2.2nanometer processor using it. Taiwan Semiconductor. They're so ahead of the game, it's ridiculous. Of course we allowed that to happen.

[John C. Dvorak]

How long would it take for. For us to replicate what we need?

[Adam Curry]

Well, it's all, you know, it's not their gear. That's the thing that, that's good. You know, it's Dutch gear. The, the engine is Dutch. We can buy no tm. Tsml.

[John C. Dvorak]

Is this asml?

[Adam Curry]

Asml? Yeah, those guys, that's the Dutch guys. They would, they can, you know, we can do. And we're, we basically Tell them they don't just sell their stuff to anyone, otherwise the Chinese would have it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yep.

[Adam Curry]

And so we just say, okay, you got to build a place. The problem is that the tsmc, a lot too many letters here. The TSMC guys, they tried, I think made a couple of advances toward building or setting up shop in the usa, but. But determined that our people are too stupid. Well, they're too stupid at the prices they pay. Ah, that would be it because we got smart people. But they, you know, you don't get them for pennies on the dollar.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, somebody needs to start making some ram. Man, the RAM prices, the RAM is funny. Yeah, we got to make some ram.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, that'll change quick.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, how?

[Adam Curry]

By the AI collapse. That'll do it. AI collapse. Everything goes great.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I'll be desoldering chips, you'll be having it.

[Adam Curry]

You have a 22 terabyte solid state drive.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hey man, I think Linux. This Sunday, one week from now, the show will run on Linux.

[Adam Curry]

What?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I think so. I got really far. I got the Rodecaster working. I was blown away. I didn't think it was, it was gonna be possible.

[Adam Curry]

This is.

[John C. Dvorak]

You can thank me because you put a timeline on it. You got me all stressed out, like, I gotta prove this, I can do this.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, you're always trying to show off.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, it's not about showing. I read somewhere that Linux desktop now has. Is close to 18% of all desktops.

[Adam Curry]

No.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, I read it. Doesn't mean it's true. It could be.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I think it should be nice if it was, you know, half.

[John C. Dvorak]

If people are so sick of Windows and it's really just the stuff getting in the way. It's the pop up, it's the ads, it's the, you know, oh, you want to use this? Well, you got to put it on the cloud, get a cloud account. Think that people are just sick of. And it sucks. It's, it's slow, it's sluggish.

[Adam Curry]

Well, one of the problems I, in my perception is that Windows always had the. Compared to. There was always Windows versus Mac. And with Windows you felt you had some control.

[John C. Dvorak]

Really?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, because with Mac it would put things in files, it would assume you're an idiot and just move things into certain places. And sometimes you couldn't find things you didn't know where they were.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's gotten really bad with the iOS, with the iPad stuff. Tina's content like, I mean, she goes into the closet and pulls out my old MacBook Pro, I think from at least eight years ago because she can't get Microsoft Word to function properly on her iPad and she has a keyboard that goes with it which doesn't have an escape key of course.

[Adam Curry]

What?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Does not have an escape key.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Apple would pull that stunt. Yeah. It reminds me of, of Texas Instruments when they came out with one of their computers and it was. And they had the keys that were supposed to be there, weren't there? Why is there no no shift key? What am I supposed to do?

[John C. Dvorak]

No S key. What are we doing?

[Adam Curry]

There's a lot of stuff but, but with Windows and you felt you had a little more control. Linux is ultimately very control oriented for the user. Well this, you can, you want to move a file from A to B. It's like okay, yeah now questioning you all the time or, or, or all. Or automatically doing stuff like the Windows. In this cloud, this cloud thing there's stuff I'm looking for something and where is it? And I go, they moved it to the cloud for some unknown reason it's up there in the cloud.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well you have two, two documents folders. When you first start up Windows, I didn't realize this. You got like a cloud document and that's the default. It's like what, what, where did everything go? Oh it's in, it's in a separate document folder.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. See this is all this ever said this is from. I think this is because Mac people came over and started working for Microsoft. This is the whole idea of Macintosh was to make it so he's brain dead.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I'll tell you this, 365, which is their office suite was down last week for I think 36 hours. All corporate email was basically dead. I mean I was, I was Getting Bounces from Marriott.com that's not good. You know everyone trusts all these companies with all of their stuff. Oh yeah, put it the cloud. I remember the cloud. The clouds put on the cloud. Oh it's great to cloud. But what happened with the cloud? Dave Jones is actually telling me this because he does it for an accounting firm. He says the whole idea was that you were moving Capex to opex. But these days you have to take a full year subscription to even really get any kind of deal. So it's not even really a, an OPEX anymore. And they keep you know, increasing prices, removing features that now are separate tier. You know it's just you do something like the AI companies are great at this. You do something in your, in your tier and then all of A sudden it's like, well, you can wait for a week until we have a GPU free, or you can upgrade to $200.

[Adam Curry]

Not everybody knows that cap. Cap X is capital expenditure versus operating expenses.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think we have the most intelligent people in the universe.

[Adam Curry]

We have a lot of zeds that think it's Florida ounces.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, so the capital expenditure is an important point because in the new tax ruling, all these companies that are building factories. We hear, we hear.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I've heard that they're doing it. I've heard trillions.

[John C. Dvorak]

The reason why they are doing it is that they will be allowed to write off all capital expenditures in one year instead of amortizing that over, what is it, seven years? Except for the. I don't think the oil guys get that kind of deal. For some reason. The oil guys didn't get that deal. I don't know why the guys have a deal.

[Adam Curry]

A real deal.

[John C. Dvorak]

Not according to the oil baron. He's feeling pretty screwed these days.

[Adam Curry]

Well, by their standards.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, that's what I always tell them. Boo hoos with your ranches. I don't feel that bad.

[Adam Curry]

I mean, come on, people.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't feel that bad. But yeah, I'm excited. Just getting the Rodecaster and all three of its USB interfaces to work was astounding. That was. That was the part that I thought was really not going to be easy.

[Adam Curry]

You should. You should productize some of it and sell it back as drivers to road. The guys who never give you anything for free.

[John C. Dvorak]

Those guys. You know that? You're so. You're so right. They give every YouTuber a free gear. Oh, we got this new box. Send it to that YouTuber. They never send anything. Never. Never. I don't get it. It must be an awesome.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, that's why you should sell them.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm not gonna sell. I'm gonna open source my stuff. I'm not gonna sell. Hey, I want to give back to the world. I'm at a stage in my life where I care about giving.

[Adam Curry]

Giving back to road. I'm not giving people who screw you out of free gear.

[John C. Dvorak]

Ah. You must give your enemy to drink and to eat.

[Adam Curry]

No, you should give yourself. What are you a communist now?

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm not a communist.

[Adam Curry]

You're a communist.

[John C. Dvorak]

I am not a communist. How dare you? Someone got really bent out of shape the other day because you called me a bigot and they thought that was really a horrible thing.

[Adam Curry]

They don't know.

[John C. Dvorak]

Horrible thing to say.

[Adam Curry]

They think that's because I used. I Try to throw the term in every so often to. So to familiarize people with what it actually means. People always think it's racial.

[John C. Dvorak]

I forget what the context. He had a different context for it but did not like it.

[Adam Curry]

No, I understand. When I say, when I call you a bigot, and I've done it more than once on the show, it's based on the definition of bigotry. You'll be so, so you'd be. You're for example, adhering to something very minuscule and minor and you think everything that's against your basic thoughts is bad. And that. That is bigoted. Is that by definition?

[John C. Dvorak]

Is it really?

[Adam Curry]

No, let's read the definition of bigotry. You bring it up.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, the definition of bigotry. Now of course, this is Merriam Webster as the first one. A narrow minded person who obstinately adheres to their own opinions and prejudices. Especially one who strongly and unfairly dislikes or feels hatred towards others based on their group membership. I'm not a bigot like that.

[Adam Curry]

No, you're not a bigot like that. But that's, but that's the secondary meaning. The initial meaning is you are narrow.

[John C. Dvorak]

Minded ways who obstinately adheres to their own opinions and prejudices.

[Adam Curry]

You have a lot of opinions that you adhere to obstinately.

[John C. Dvorak]

You are the biggest bigot, if that's the definition.

[Adam Curry]

You could call me one in certain circumstances and you'd be correct.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, but I don't do that.

[Adam Curry]

You're doing it right now.

[John C. Dvorak]

Didn't call you a bigot.

[Adam Curry]

No, no, you're, you're being obstinate.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, oh, okay. Well, it's all right. That, that is, that's who I. It's hard to be right all the time. It's just hard. Speaking of that, I just want.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, see, there you go. That's what I'm talking about here.

[John C. Dvorak]

I just wanted to mention.

[Adam Curry]

So this guy gets all bent out of shape because I used the word properly. I'm sorry.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hey, I'm not complaining, I just keep.

[Adam Curry]

This reminds me of the like the word niggardly. Well, you bring that up. I mean I don't even do that one. But that's a very. It's. It means cheap.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, let's just stick with this for one second because we get emails frequently, I would say ever since we just disagreed with the libertarian narrative and now widespread narrative that Israel controls everything in America. But it's interesting because people, we have.

[Adam Curry]

A, the logic and by the way, what you're saying the logic of that thought that Israel compares or controls. Israel controls, I'm sorry, Israel controls everything in America is so ludicrous. It's ludicrous, but yet people are all in on it and it's baffling to us.

[John C. Dvorak]

So, but even like Trump, and we got an interesting, I got an interesting email about this. Like Trump, it's like, let me see if I have that email.

[Adam Curry]

Here's our cold weather show, ladies and gentlemen.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, we got some other stuff to talk about. But, you know, people say you're such fans, you're like licking his ass on and on and on and on. And I'm like, first of all, we have an opinion and sometimes he's funny and we laugh.

[Adam Curry]

He can be very funny.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. And we often you more than I say, you know, he's not going to do anything that's not going to happen.

[Adam Curry]

Because it's not going to happen.

[John C. Dvorak]

But here's this is from Jason. He says, as an avid libertarian anarcho capitalist, I thought I'd give you a quick explanation about Judge Napolitano, Scott Horton and Dave Smith and the rest of our libertarian crew.

[Adam Curry]

And by the way, everyone goes through a period of libertarianism. This is like the, this is very much like college women who go through their small period of being a lesbian. Let's just analyze it that way, okay?

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow. It's true. We don't like Trump or his foreign policy. I think this is because I said Judge Napolitano just hates Trump. But I also said, well, no, let me read on. Many of us aren't fans of ICE and other federal agencies, but we're quite sincere. Well, I don't doubt that we don't like the Democrats either and see them as hypocrites who are just as much in love with government power domestically and American mercantilism abroad as Republicans are. We like Ron Paul and Thomas Massie because they oppose American hegemony and support a return to the Jeffersonian values of an agrarian republic that stays at home and minds its own business. And I'll just insert here, you will hear in today's show why that is not possible. I know you guys mostly respond to media rather than taking philosophical stances, but it's quite frustrating to listen to some of it as it feels like you're mocking our viewpoint without really understanding why we believe what we believe. And then he throws in some Christian stuff, which is supposed to convince me. I just wanted to get that off my chest. Okay, so here's the point I was making. Is that when you have these same libertarians, and I'm talking about these podcasters, I'm not talking about you or anybody else in particular, but we have podcasters who. It's gonna go to war with Iran, it's gonna go to war with Venezuela, and when Trump doesn't do it, they never say, wow, that was cool, he didn't do it. Maybe there's hope. That's my point. It's the hypocrisy of it, because ultimately you're not libertarians, you're Trump haters. That's the point. And what is this? A gravity.

[Adam Curry]

Ah, that's good.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's true. Or at least these podcasters. And I don't care how many hours of videos Scott Horton has or how many books he's written about anti war or war, whatever, whatever. I live in the here and now. So it's just, you know, chill out. You know, you can have. I'm happy you find your opinions. I just have a different worldview and the people get all bent out of shape and all they've got is fanboy shekels. Come on. It's just. Wait until they hear that I'm. We're doing an Israel trip in March. They'll really flip out. I'm gonna do a show from Israel. I hope.

[Adam Curry]

They get good connectivity there.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah, I do. So regarding ice, I Now, I always get your clips early in the morning, so. But I had some. I have my own analysis, but I think we should start with stuff you have, because you've got stuff.

[Adam Curry]

What do I do?

[John C. Dvorak]

Minnesota?

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah, I do have a bunch of Minnesota stuff.

[John C. Dvorak]

Because once again, we're all. Actually, I'll kick it off with one thing. I'll just kick it off. We're. Where is it? We're all Zapruder. Once again, we're all Zapruder, everybody. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. Here we go. Aaron Burnett, what do you see in.

[News Reporter]

All of this so far? From the information that we have, from the video you've watched, from the responses we've gotten from DHS and from Mr. Bevino.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I mean, obviously, Aaron, at the core of it, you have an unbelievable tragedy where it appears that a potentially unarmed person was essentially assassinated by horrible law enforcement tactics.

[Adam Curry]

Horrible.

[John C. Dvorak]

Dramatically escalated the situation. But, you know, they're just. There are so many questions here at the, at the absolute core of lethal force training in the FBI academy. This is Andrew McCabe, by the way, at.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, this guy's like a horrible Trump hater. Yeah, he's anti American. He's a terrible person. Why would anyone even put him on a show? He's disgraced.

[John C. Dvorak]

Cnn, baby. Lethal force training in the FBI academy at. In the academy at Glynco, Georgia. Did you hear the potentially unarmed piece there?

[Adam Curry]

I heard that the guy. You mean the guy with the 9 millimeter? Talking about that guy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Gents, Border patrol folks, go through. You are taught from the very beginning that if you are in, if you use your weapon, you have to be able to after the fact, articulate exactly why you perceived and an imminent threat of death or serious bodily injury. And so the question now is, when are we going to hear that articulation? What is the reason that these officers, or a single officer, we don't know how many people shot believe they were in imminent threat of death by this person who was. By all, every video we've seen on the ground with anywhere from four to five officers on top of him at the same time. Nowhere in these videos do you see a weapon in this man's hand. So again, this is the Zapruder effect that we in America love so much. We love analyzing video.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. This reminds me of the. Of the Jack, my favorite, which is the. Jacqueline Kennedy shot JFK in the head.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yep.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. If you. If you look at that film just right.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah, the driver just shot him. I mean, everything is. And yeah, and this goes on forever and ever. And of course, we only have more and more of this with. With video. And video can be very decept in. In on either side. Same. Same movie, two different screens. You can look at something one way and get. Get something out of it. And. But it's red meat for the M5M and for podcasters, apparently, because this is all we can talk about. I mean, it's no different from Charlie Kirk. What 30 OD6 was from above, below was. Did his microphone explode? This will go on for. And I find it tedious and boring. I mean, obviously we've got.

[Adam Curry]

You didn't find it so tedious. You didn't want to record that particular moment?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, no, I do that for effect. I am a show business person, after all. Come on. All right, I have some thoughts on the whole thing, but I'd like to like you to do your.

[Adam Curry]

Okay. I'm sure you have some thoughts on the whole thing. So let's play these Minnesota shooting. Now, I had two versions of this. I have the short one, which I want to play the short one. This is all from npr. The short one, because there's a little tidbit in here that I thought was funny, which is not mentioned at all in the long form, which is new MN shooter. NPR got it.

[News Reporter]

Minnesota officials identified the person shot and killed today in Minneapolis as Alex Jeffrey Preddy. As NPR's Meg Anderson reports, he was the second person killed by federal immigration agents in less than three weeks.

[John C. Dvorak]

Weeks.

[News Reporter]

In a news conference with city officials, u. S. Senators Amy klobuchar and Tina Smith named Preddy as the shooting victim. They said Pretty was a 37 year old ICU nurse, a U. S Citizen and a Minneapolis resident.

[Adam Curry]

U. S. Citizen Tina Smith.

[News Reporter]

The Trump administration has already called Alex Preddy a domestic terrorist. He was a nurse. She stressed that if this can happen in Minnesota, it can happen in any community in the country.

[John C. Dvorak]

Tree.

[News Reporter]

In the aftermath of the shooting, mayor Jacob fry requested that the governor deploy national guard members to support Minneapolis police officers. Guard members will wear yellow safety vests to distinguish them from other entities on the ground.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay. Yes.

[Adam Curry]

So the yellow safety vest got my attention.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh yeah, this is people, those, those people are directing traffic.

[Adam Curry]

So you're gonna have the yellow safety vests, which is just gonna cause nothing.

[John C. Dvorak]

But no, yellow yellow safety vest is, in my opinion, seeing that most of these protests are organized operations, maybe by civilians, but that's someone who's a key figure. You're a leader. You're a person who has a point person. I don't think you just put on the yellow safety vest. It's just my opinion. I don't know anything about this guy. Did he, did he. I don't think.

[Adam Curry]

No, no. The yellow safety vest is what they're going to make the national guard wear.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, well, that'll confuse everybody. That'll confuse the protesters.

[Adam Curry]

Well, there's also, it has a bunch of symbolism too. It's yellow for one thing, which is a surrender. And it's also the yellow vest movement is reminiscent of that a little bit in France. And it's. And these guys are going to be like, if I'm national guard guy wearing like my normal, my normal fatigues, I'm gonna look like a doofus wearing this stupid yellow vest. So, you know, the whole thing is funny. They left that out of the long form and I thought that was kind of weird to do, but okay. Because long form goes on forever. Let's start with the Minnesota shooting. Long form. This is a more of an analysis than the other report.

[News Reporter]

For the second time this month, federal immigration agents in Minneapolis have shot and killed someone. It happened this morning outside a donut shop where protesters quickly gathered. This latest killing has put an already tense city further on edge. And today the Trump administration and local officials are trading accusations about who is to blame. NPR's Jennifer Ludden is in Minneapolis and has been following all of this. Hi, Jennifer. Hi, Sarah. First, Jennifer, what do we know so far about what exactly happened this morning? Well, the Department of Homeland Security says there is an investigation with more information to come. But the immigration agent commanding this operation called the shooting Self Defense Gregory Bevino told reporters that agents were pursuing an undocumented immigrant wanted for violent assault. And then another person who was armed approached the officers and resembled resisted when they tried to disarm him. Here's Bovino.

[Adam Curry]

This looks like a situation where an individual wanted to do maximum damage and massacre law enforcement.

[John C. Dvorak]

Then about 200 rioters arrived at the.

[Adam Curry]

Scene and began to obstruct and assault law enforcement.

[News Reporter]

But there is a bystander video that shows multiple federal agents. It looks like at least six wrestling someone on the ground, striking him. And then you hear multiple strikes, shots fired. It sounds like at least 10 rounds in just a few seconds. And it is not clear from the video if the man killed had brandished or reached for any weapon. Now, Minneapolis Police Chief Bran O' Hara says the man killed was a 37 year old white male US citizen. US citizen. US citizen with no criminal record and a lawful permit to carry a gun. His family has identified him to the Associated Press as Alex Preddy. They say he was an intensive care nurse at the VA who was upset at the ice surge here. And his family says he had protested after an agent fatally shot another person, Renee Good, in her car earlier this month.

[John C. Dvorak]

I just need to interject one quick thing here because this, you won't hear this. It's not discussed anywhere. This is like, you know, it's like, was he a bad guy? Did the cops kill him? This is back and forth is endless. If you physically interpose yourself with law enforcement, that by itself is a federal crime done. So all bets are off at that point whether you're armed or not. And I think it's bull crap that he was there. He was going to commit mass murder. I think that's bull crap. And I think it's weak on behalf of Kristi Noem, how she categorizes all this. The fact is they were, they were on an operation. And you know, Obama deported 3 million people. I guess he just did it in the middle of the night quietly. I doubt that. But there were no protests that I can remember. No, there were only protests about kids in cages. Oh, wait, yeah. That was Obama. But Obama too got blamed for it. But if you put yourself, which he did. If you put your, you put yourself, you block a federal agent. That is a crime now, not a crime that an agent can shoot someone over. And then you go to the next phase of it. But that already is the problem right there. And this comes from a different place altogether. But there's just. No, I've not heard anyone say that at all. It's somehow this.

[Adam Curry]

They don't want to say it because it doesn't fit the narrative as much as nasty ICE guys that are out there trying to, you know, they're trying to. One of the terms was they were murdering people left and right. I can't remember how it went, but it's what's amazing. Sound like they're homicidal maniacs. There's more people killed in Oakland in the last three weeks than there has been in Minnesota.

[John C. Dvorak]

What I, what I find fascinating is the constant ongoing from the M5M particularly. Well, he had a concealed weapon. He was legally licensed to kill it, to carry it. This is the first time I've heard that this was a good thing. Oh, it's good, it's good, yeah.

[Adam Curry]

What happened to the old anti guns narrative?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, not in.

[Adam Curry]

These guys can't make up their minds. They're just subversive. Yes, the media is subversive. We just have to admit it.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right, part two.

[News Reporter]

Now, the Border patrol commander mentioned, quote, rioters at the scene. You were at the scene. What happened after the shooting? Yes, an Emperor producer and I went there as word was spreading. Lots of people were streaming in to see and to protest. There were dozens of people across several blocks. I did not see rioting. Local police officers used multiple rounds of tear gas to try and disperse the crowd. They say, look, it's a crime scene. Now Linda Gottlieb was among those there. She was standing a few feet from a line of local police officers in full face masks and riot gear. She's a health care worker and is frustrated and upset about this weeks long federal search. They're trying to have the narrative be that the people are the aggressors. But we have seen on video and we've heard people testify to the fact that no, they are being illegally detained and assaulted and sustaining injuries. And this is absolutely counter to everything our country stands for.

[John C. Dvorak]

Our country stands for the First Amendment, which is the right to peaceably assemble, which by the way, in constitutional law even local government can determine where and at what time peaceably assembling is not walking around in the streets and blowing air horns and whistles and throwing stuff at them. It's just not.

[News Reporter]

I'll add that just yesterday, there were thousands of people filling downtown streets here in a very peaceful rally, peaceful rally demanding that some federal immigration agents leave their city. Now, Jennifer, the Trump administration has been quick to denounce the man who was killed, calling him a, quote, domestic terrorist, blaming the shooting on local and state officials. What are those Minnesota officials saying? You know, we've heard outrage and frustration from them. Governor Tim Wall says the federal government cannot be trusted to handle the investigation. The state Bureau of Criminal Apprehension says DHS is blocking its investigators on the scene. And remember, DHS said it's not even investigating the agent who shot and killed Renee Good earlier. Here's Governor Walsh. Today.

[Adam Curry]

We continue to hear, and we heard.

[John C. Dvorak]

It from the vice president that these folks can do whatever they want. They can have full immunity. And what I'm telling you is they will not. There will be justice to Minnesotans now, it seems like you're allowing your peaceably assembled constituents do whatever they want.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Great. Yeah. This is so good for Walt. So good for him. He. Wow, what a. It's almost a godsend for him. For now. For now, they have to.

[Adam Curry]

That guy should be arrested, probably. They haven't arrested anybody. I mean, they just don't like this church thing with the Don Lemon thing, which I have some thoughts on, by the way. I know you have some thoughts on it. I do have a completely different thesis than everybody else. But the. It's like the Don Lamon thing. Okay, so they arrested three people, the ringleaders, basically, and there was another 20 or 30 people. Why aren't they getting arrested? It was the same violation of the Face Act. Why don't they pick them all up?

[John C. Dvorak]

The funny thing about the Face act is it was written initially to keep church people away from abortion clinics. It's amazing to see this flip flop then used by the church people on the abortion crazies.

[Adam Curry]

Well, the funny thing is about the face. When it was passed, when it was proposed by the Democrats, the Republicans thought it was a bit much. That was so lopsided. And so the Democrats agree to allow the mention of churches in the act as a quid pro quo. Okay, we'll give you the abortion clinics. You got to give us the churches.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And so it went through that way. And now, now it's being turned on its head. But that's still beside the point. Where's the other arrests?

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, I'm in complete agreement with you. It's trespassing. They should be arrested for trespassing.

[Adam Curry]

Well, no, they should be arrested for the Face act, which is a lot stronger than trespassing.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm just saying, at minimum, is what I said for trespassing. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, they're too busy doing other stuff. There's very busy days.

[Adam Curry]

They're too busy not arresting people. Oh, can we. No, they're not gonna arrest him either. So let's. Was that the third clip?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, that was the whole thing. No, the third one is short. Is that some kind of kicker?

[Adam Curry]

A little kicker?

[News Reporter]

Wall says the state is creating a log of evidence for possible future prosecution of immigration agents. And how worried quickly are people about things escalating? You know, there's concern. Governor Walz has activated the Minnesota National Guard to help local police with protest. Meanwhile, President Trump has accused him and the mayor of inciting insurrection. That's meaningful because he's repeatedly threatened to invoke the Insurrection act and has put about 2,000 active duty military soldiers on standby for possible deployment to Minnesota. NPR's Jennifer Ludden. Thank you.

[John C. Dvorak]

And I think this is really what they want. They really want Trump to deploy National Guard, you know, or federal troops or whatever it is. They, they want to have militarization so that they can really go into the 2026 election with their message.

[Adam Curry]

Right.

[John C. Dvorak]

One of our producers, which is why.

[Adam Curry]

They should start arresting people, because they're not going to win the 26 elections anyway.

[John C. Dvorak]

One of our producers, David Attoma, I think he's a knight. He had a very good catch from episode 1836. Funny enough, one of your clips, the David Brooks clip regarding Minnesota. And listen to what David Brooks said in that clip, which I don't know. I don't think either of us. We didn't discuss it. I certainly didn't catch it first. Go around. And I've long thought if Americans see deportations of respectable families, they will finally rebel against this regime. And not just the progressives and not just Democrats, but normal people who like, what the heck is going on here? Not just liberals and Democrats, but normal people. People. I thought that was an outstanding catch. Wow.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. That's a ten pointer. That's a. That's a slam dunk. That's a game winner. That is a terrific catch.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let's listen to one more.

[Adam Curry]

We miss that.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think it's because we both heard regime and we're like, oh, yeah, we were.

[Adam Curry]

Focus.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let's listen and this again is why video is destructive to analysis. And I've long thought if Americans see deportations of respectable families, they will finally rebel against this regime. And not just the progressives, and not just Democrats, but normal people who are like, what the heck is going on here? Normal people. Normal people, not the crazy progressives.

[Adam Curry]

Wow.

[John C. Dvorak]

So allow me to play a few clips here. The first one, another great observation. And this does come from Black TikTok, but it's, it's not your typical TikTok video. It is an in car recorded video. So, you know, it's official. An excellent point here. You know why you're not seeing a lot of black people out there protesting against ice? You know why you're seeing predominantly white people only at these events? It's because back in 2020, the Democrats utilized the black demographic to go out and riot and act a fool. And they said, oh, if you just elect us, we'll give you reparations and we'll force the police to wear body cameras and all these wonder amazing things, right? So black people showed up, like we are known to do, and we voted up and down for one side of the aisle. And what did we get for it? Nothing, as usual, because many of us never learn. But now here in 2026, we're seeing individuals who were slavelessly devoted to the Democrat party. Now they're seeing the Democrats over their entire four years in office under Joe Biden, they went out of their way to ingratiate themselves to illegal immigrants. And they sometimes prioritized illegal immigrants even in black communities ahead of black American citizens. And black people are sitting there saying, wait, you said you were gonna give us reparations, give us X, Y and Z, and we got nothing for it. So the silver lining is a lot of people are waking up and realizing the Democrats are only courting their next prospective voting block. They want to exploit illegal immigrants for an entire generation, much like they've exploited the black community for the previous several generations. And they're daring you to call them out on that and see it for what it is. So if you're wondering why you only see predominantly white liberals out here acting a fool, rioting and protesting against ice, it's because ICE is threatening their ability to cater to that next demographic that they desperately want to lock in for an entire generation. Generation. Exactly. Exactly. What's going on here? Dead people be damned. They do not care. I, you know, I went back and I looked up the Elio because we were laughing about it. Elian Gonzalez.

[Adam Curry]

Gonzalez.

[John C. Dvorak]

So, so. But Just to reiterate, Elian Gonzalez, this is 1999. The there's a front page everywhere. Before smartphones and people were still blogging, we didn't have the social media. Media barely blogging, I might say. What kind of blogs were there at the time? Did was blogger a thing?

[Adam Curry]

Early blogs? Yeah, Blogger was out there. Yeah, blogger and a couple of these systems. Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

And splashed across the front pages of all newspapers. You go look it up. Elian Gonzalez, his five year old kid. And there is what we would today called. It didn't exist then, an ICE agent with a submachine gun sticking in this five year old kid's face. His eyes are bugged out wide.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it's great.

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean it was just outrageous. I looked this up. What happened was this was the big election between Bush and Gore and they wanted to get the Cuban American voting bloc. And so this was. This happened.

[Adam Curry]

The Republicans did?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. Oh yeah, the Republicans, exactly. This was right before the election. All these things. It always happens when it's elections and then you just want to make one side or the other look bad. And if it can get a five year old kid, like we've seen this kid, you know, with a little rabbit hat. I mean, it's heartbreaking. Of course it's a heartbreaker. Yeah, it's a total heartbreaker. You're looking at. But it is.

[Adam Curry]

Poor little kid.

[John C. Dvorak]

But it is. Yes, of course it's horrible. It is meant to tug at the heartstrings and think the other side is evil. But what we can't blame ICE or the protesters because what's really happened here is you have two things. You have people obstructing law enforcement and then you have the local officials, the local leaders, I just say the blind leading the blind line, telling them to get out on the street, put your body on the line, all and continuously making this law enforcement what it truly is, law enforcement. But it turns into a complete mayhem when people are told go out and. And protest against them. Let's look at the core issue. The core issue is lost in this. And I did just a little mini super cute. Because we have been told what is happening over and over and over again. And I think because our president usually speaks in some parables that we can't even decipher, although it's true and sometimes like what is the guy trying to tell me here? But this is what he has said for the past 10 years as a candidate and as president. Nearly 180,000 illegal immigrants with criminal records.

[Adam Curry]

Ordered deported from our country are tonight roaming free to threaten peaceful citizens. They are being released by the tens of thousands into our communities with no.

[John C. Dvorak]

Regard for the impact on public safety or resources.

[Adam Curry]

They're poisoning the blood of our country. That's what they've done. They poison mental institutions, institutions and prisons all over the world. Not just in South America, not just the three or four countries that we think about, but all over the world. They're coming into our country from Africa, from Asia, all over the world. They're pouring into our country. Nobody's even looking at them. They just come in. As I've said many times, the Maduro regime emptied out their prisons, sent their worst and most violent monsters into the United States to steal American lives. And they came from mental institutions and insane asylums. They came from prisons and jails. They sent from their mental institutions, they sent from their jails, prisons. They were drug dealers, they were drug kingpins. They sent everybody bad into the United States. We will begin removing the more than 2 million criminal illegal immigrants from the country. Deport all criminal aliens and dismantle every last criminal gang and cartel threatening our citizens. Drug dealers, gang heads, gang members.

[John C. Dvorak]

Right. So right away in the troll room, Trump is a dog whistling piece of shit, okay? Exactly. Because his parables are not understood. I came across an interview with Peter Schweitzer. He has a new book out, Peter Schweitzer we know from Clinton Cash, which I know, I read, you might have read it too, which was really good, very detailed. He's written a number of these books. I'm pretty sure he's a spook or was. George Washington University, Young America's Foundation.

[Adam Curry]

The kind of information he has is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Kind of St. Cross College. St. Cross College, this is a spook school. So I'm pretty sure he's a spook or former spook or spook adjacent. But he does have information and he's written this new book called, titled the Invisible Coup. And he takes us back to when. What the Trump? What the Trump. What the Trump is talking about is.

[Adam Curry]

Actually, I think it should be the Trump.

[John C. Dvorak]

We're going to call him the Trump from now on. Listen to this.

[Interviewee / Expert]

Back in 1980, the Mariel boat left and a lot of people that were around will remember that the United States was flooded with Cuban refugees and Jimmy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Carter, these were the Cuban boat people. Remember they were killed, they were floating.

[Adam Curry]

They're coming over on everything, on inner.

[John C. Dvorak]

Tubes, all kinds of stuff.

[Interviewee / Expert]

When this first started developing, said, you know, we're a compassionate country, which is true. We're going to welcome them with open arms. And Fidel Castro told his top aides, well, we're going to fill their arms with excrement. He used a different word. And this was really the first modern example of weaponized immigration. Because what Fidel Castro recognized was we can actually attack the United States by sending them criminals, people that are mentally ill, but also people that are going to set up criminal networks, drug networks inside the United States. And so what we thought was a sort of random humanitarian event was actually a targeted attack. And I quote from a government panel that later looked at the Mario boat lift and concluded that it was probably the third most lethal foreign attack on the United States besides Pearl harbor in 9 11. The Mario boat lift was probably the third most lethal attack.

[John C. Dvorak]

So I already got his book, and he's very detailed with his sources, where it's all coming from, but it's not all that hidden. Now he gives us the Sao Paulo Forum and who's involved in that.

[Interviewee / Expert]

And this became a template for a lot of modern Latin American leaders in the summer of 1980, when this was unfolding. Fidel Castro goes to Nicaragua to meet with Sandinista leaders. And there's a young revolutionary there named Lula who later today is the president of Brazil. And he sets up an entity called the Sao Paulo Forum with Fidel Castro, which includes progressive leaders from across Latin America. And in the United States, the Democratic Socialists of America, which is Bernie Sanders and AOC's group. And the Sao Paulo Forum has weaponized immigration against us today, and that includes the Morena Party of Mexico and Petro, the leader of Colombia, and a whole host of other countries who have adopted this as their strategy to defeat the United States.

[John C. Dvorak]

Enter Mexico, who has quite the plan, apparently.

[Interviewee / Expert]

And I always thought of Mexico in the context of, okay, you've got kind of this hapless government, and it's corrupt. And they're kind of glad for mass migration because now they don't have to feed their own people. The reality is, in their own words, they view immigration very differently. This is from a government report. This is a report written by one of President Sheinbaum's top aides. In December of 2024. We already know that the Mexican population in the United States reaches 39.9 million. We Mexicans are reclaiming our territory. That's from December of 2024. Here's a powerful senator who's also a member of the Marina Party, who sits on the National Defense Committee, which is the most powerful committee in the Mexican Senate. Quote, we Mexicans are in our territories. California, Nevada, Texas, Texas, Utah, New Mexico, Arizona, Kansas, Oklahoma, Colorado and Wyoming were going to take back the territory that was stolen from us. They have actually created a network and infrastructure inside the United States. And this infrastructure, this includes Mexican government officials inside the United States who are organizing violent protests like those that hit Los Angeles, those that are in Minneapolis, and they are actively participating in our politics. They are working to elect Democrats who are sympathetic a foreign government to elect Democrats who are sympathetic to them on immigration, and working to defeat President Trump through Mexican consulates that are across the United States.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't doubt this at all. It sounds completely plausible.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, that's why the Mexican flag is always prevalent at these things.

[John C. Dvorak]

Exactly. And here's a little.

[Adam Curry]

You get a clue, people. What do you. Why are these guys flying a Mexican flag in Los Angeles? Come on.

[John C. Dvorak]

Here's a little bonus clip.

[Interviewee / Expert]

Mexico has a reputation for being kind of a sleepy, corrupt government, and people don't take them seriously. I think we should. Mexico has 53 consulates in the United States. 53. In contrast, the two other countries with the most are China and the United Kingdom with 6 and 7.

[John C. Dvorak]

So I don't doubt that the Trump is telling the truth, but he speaks it. So I mean, he's so repetitive that everyone's like, yeah, whatever, where are they? My cleaning lady doesn't seem to be dangerous, but I completely believe that all these different countries have indeed emptied their jails and their insane asylums and, well, when they come, could send people over. I don't doubt that at all. And he says, well, maybe 2 million of them, quite possibly. And then this is the final clip. This is just extra bonus.

[Interviewee / Expert]

This is a quote from 2023 that I think lays out the fact that they want this to be silenced. Again, this is from 2023. The head of the Mexican news agency, which is like their sort of Associated Press, he says, quote, we are quietly carrying out the reconquest of our territories in the US taken in 1848. The reconquest of the Aztec territory is silent. And the day that the gringos realize this, their diabolical fundamentalism will become macabre. In other words, we need to keep this quiet. We don't want to talk about it publicly, because when the gringos, as he says, find out, they're going to be really, really angry about it. So we need to recognize what's going on on, have an honest conversation about it. There are dozens of these quotes in the book from Mexican officials. And we go through and name the Mexican Government officials who were at the center of the LA riots last year who are manipulating our politics.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. I think the Trump is right. And this is what ICE is going after. After these elements that have infiltrated our country. Country. He's right. But I just kind of glossed over it too. I'm like, whatever. I've heard it a million times. Where are they? But the fact that they have colluded with the Democrat Party, certainly in the Los Angeles, quote, unquote, riots, if you see the organization, it doesn't surprise me at all. So stuck in the crosshairs of this is law enforcement and citizens. Citizens who really have been told they're doing the right thing. You are. You're compassionate, you're empathetic, and you're a good person. And. And liberals love being good persons in general. But this is an actual battle. And I'm. I can't wait to see what Schweitzer. What else Schweitzer has in his book, because I'll bet there's a lot more to this.

[Adam Curry]

Now. I gotta read this thing, right?

[John C. Dvorak]

I know, I know.

[Adam Curry]

Thanks.

[John C. Dvorak]

You're welcome. So tragedy of foolishness and blood guilt. The way I see it, between foolish people who have been told, who somehow believe that it's their right to peacefully protest, which is not peaceably assemble. Yes. And they're being told by their actual elected representatives what to do. And those representatives in turn are taking. Apparently taking commands from other countries because, hey, we'll.

[Adam Curry]

They should arrest Walls and that fry guy. That guy's an idiot.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, they should, because people are going to get hurt.

[Adam Curry]

But they won't. They're not going to arrest. I mean, they're going to. They arrest the ringleader. Which brings me to the Don Lamin. I just want to get this out of the way. Don Lament Lemon, which you made a point of. They. You know, we didn't talk about it, but I'm going to talk about it. As far as I can tell, looking at the. Just the way it went down. Don Lemon is a CI for the FBI. There's no doubt in my mind about this.

[John C. Dvorak]

As in confidential informant.

[Adam Curry]

Informant. And he's probably getting paid because the way he set up that woman who organized the church invasion was so obvious. He did a long interview with her. She just basically convinced. I'm sorry, confessed on camera. Everything she was going to do, all the illegal action, everything in between.

[John C. Dvorak]

He even had a name for the operation, Operation Pull up, which I still can't figure out, but, yeah, good point.

[Adam Curry]

And so he got that on tape. And then he went in there and he made a fool of himself. And then they put the indictment or the arrest warrants out for three individuals and they left, including in four, actually, because Don Lemon was on it. And the judge refused to indict or have Don Lemon arrested. Yes, well, this was a major screw up because when you have a CI, he gets caught up in it, he gets arrested. That's the idea. You don't want to make it appear. And the judge who let him go, his wife works for aggressive, the attorney General of Minnesota. Nice catch, Ellison. And so she probably thought that, well, you know, hey, he's working for the. Actually working for the FBI. Oh, okay. I won't arrest him because I want to give him a break. Not knowing the playbook. Pam Bondi has to fly. She says, I'm flying to Minnesota. She's got to literally fly out there and she can't do it over the phone. She has to fly out there and read this guy the riot act. Why he screwed up because Lemon has to be arrested.

[John C. Dvorak]

Otherwise.

[Adam Curry]

Otherwise is blown or his cover's blown. And it is blown as far as I'm concerned already. Yeah, but his, his whole game was being. Being. You know, he needs money. And the giveaway was when he was. He does.

[John C. Dvorak]

I love. Honey, I'm gonna. I gotta take this gig. Honey, I'm sorry. I just have to.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, and you know, you know the type of guy he is, he's one of those guys you think thinks it's cool.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, of course.

[Adam Curry]

And so he would. So he's. So he gets. Gets himself involved in this whole thing. But the giveaway was a clip you played on another show. That was him. And this clip that I thought about getting. But I hate these people. This is the. I've had it podcast with the putty faced woman. I talked about her in the newsletter.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

Jennifer Welch. And she has Don Lemon on. And Lemon's going on and on about what happened. And he says. And he uses the term my producers. Yes, my producer. What is a guy who's a podcaster that indicates multiple people? My producers. And, you know, you might want an engineer, you know, or something. There's different kinds. If you're going to go out solo and do what he's doing, you don't need producers. But his producer, this is his handlers. One of them is obviously the FBI guy. This is so phony. But poor Donald Trump Lemon. Now it's going to have to be because you will probably arrest him to try to make. Make amends. And then they're going to have to decide, what are we going to do with him? Will Don. He'll get a slap on the wrist, maybe, or. But maybe Don can say, hey, you know, if you put me in jail for four months at some really lush.

[John C. Dvorak]

Place, I might meet somebody.

[Adam Curry]

No, no, it'd be. It would go like this. It would be. I have street cred, and I can do a lot of better job.

[John C. Dvorak]

Do you want to hear. I have that clip if you want to hear it. The lamb.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, play that clip with.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, here we go. And there's a certain degree of entitlement, I think people who are, you know, in the religious groups like that. It's not the type of Christianity that I practice, but I think that they're entitled and that that entitlement comes from a supremacy, a white supremacy, and they think that this country was built for them, that it is a Christian country. When actually we left England because we wanted religious freedom. It's religious. Religious freedom, but only if you're a Christian and only if you're a white male, pretty much. And so, Yeah, I. Absolutely. 100%, but it's an intimidation tactic. And, you know, I said, I don't understand how I've become the face of it. When I was a journalist, I do understand that I'm the biggest name there. And I'm also, as I was on with my producers this morning, you and Kylie talk all the time. My producers were saying. I said, how did I become the face of this? And my producer said, don, you're a gay black man in America. I take some. Some kind of pleasure in knowing that you were listening to me and Pastor Jimmy and yelling at the podcast that we're shaking my fist like he's an FBI informant. Don't you guys see that?

[Adam Curry]

FBI. CI.

[John C. Dvorak]

CI.

[Adam Curry]

So. So this will play out in some way. It's already, as far as I'm concerned, the cover's blown. But nobody else is seeing this. Obviously. They wouldn't be all upset. All the. The podcast complexes all over it because, you know, Don Lemon, they hate him, which is perfect cover.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, and all the. The podcast pastors. Yeah, they've totally. They've totally whiffed on that. I actually have a short clip of the Attorney General, Keith Ellison. I don't remember what's on it, but it's only 30 seconds. The protest is fundamental to American society. This country started in a protest, and, you know, it's freedom of expression. People have a right to lift up.

[Adam Curry]

Their voices and make their Peace.

[John C. Dvorak]

And none of us are immune from the voice of the. Of the public. So I quite honestly, I think that you got the First Amendment, freedom of religion and the freedom of First Amendment. Freedom of expression. No, and I think that, you know, it's just. I think it's just something you gotta live with in a society. No, he breaks up there.

[Adam Curry]

Well, that's terrible.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, that's why I didn't play it, I guess.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, there's something fishy about that guy too.

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean, that's not even a jurist who's speaking there. I mean, our country started with the protest. Okay, I don't think so.

[Adam Curry]

I guess tossing the tea over the. There's a violent protest.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, but, but that's why we put together a Bill of Rights. And what the. And this is not about. And I hate it when people, people in law say, oh, we have these rights. No, no, those, the, the amendments are telling.

[Adam Curry]

No, you hate is when they say the government is allowed these rights.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, exactly. Well, well.

[Adam Curry]

Or the government conferred.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. Or you, you have these. Yeah, of course it's bad. Like, this is your little sliver of what you may do. No, no, this is what the government may not stop you from doing. And that, yeah, that always does irk me. But that's just our education system. I think you have. Have nailed it on this. And you're right, they really screwed up by not at least detaining him overnight. I mean, even that would have given him enough street cred to talk about. He had to use a toilet paper roll as a pillow.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, all the good stuff.

[John C. Dvorak]

That happened to a friend of mine, Pilot. He flew to Cancun for New New Year's with his wife and he has a. His own plane. And you know, here in Texas, we have a flight bag. Just throw the flight bag in and you know, it's got your, Your iPad, your chart. No charts anymore, but you know, some like a backup radio. Just your flight bag. And so on the way out, as he's leaving, which is when. And he has a small turbo prop. So not a, Not a private jet or anything, but this was the most moment when everyone with a private jet decided to leave so they had extra security. He puts his bag on the belt and he sees all these guys coming around. They're looking at the bag and. And he had left his handgun in it. So he gets arrested.

[Adam Curry]

And of course they're, you know, wait a minute, stop. He's on a. He's got a private plane and they're. They're checking his luggage handbag.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. On the way out of the air airport at the. At the private airfield terminal. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

I've never heard of such a thing.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, it's happened to me in Switzerland. No, it definitely happens for international flights. They want to make sure you're not smuggling drugs out or there's all kinds.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, all right. Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, it's private plane terminal. And so he has his little 9 millimeter in there, and they're like, what do you. Where did you buy this? Who did you get this from? He's like, why would I buy a gun in Mexico when I can buy one at Canada Kmart? He was detained for 48 hours and literally in a cell sleep.

[Adam Curry]

That ruined his vacation.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah? How about his wife who had to just figure out how to get home on a commercial flight? Oh, the horrors. And I think he wound up paying because the consulate got involved and they got him a lawyer. And he had to pay $24,000 to the lawyer, most of which which was given out to people in bribes to get him out. Mexico and here we're just like, yeah, whatever, we'll protect you. Just a little contrast there.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I'd say that's a more than a little contrast.

[John C. Dvorak]

And he's leaving the country. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Wow.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I got a good one.

[John C. Dvorak]

And I was like, you didn't call me. Me. I can't believe you didn't call. We got Rob, the constitutional lawyer. We've got. We got people around, you know, we got people we can call. We. We know people. I just wanted to play it straight. Could have had you out in two hours, man.

[Adam Curry]

So. So I'm going to straighten something out from the last show. We got your buddy Scott Sims. Simon coming up.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

To talk about the tree explosions. Suffer and succotash.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm Scott. Simon. Is there anything people can do to.

[Adam Curry]

No, no, not that one. Hold on.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm sorry.

[Adam Curry]

That's the second. That's part two.

[John C. Dvorak]

I just see. Scott Simon, tree protection.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, try. You're gonna love this.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sorry, Simon. Okay, I got you. The trees don't really explode, do they? That term of an exploding tree is kind of a sensationalized headline that gets a lot of attention. By the way, I was talking to Tina about this, who grew up in Indiana. She said never. It was 10 degrees, 8 degrees. She said she has never, ever heard of this exploding tree phenomenon. It's new to me as well. In reality, the. The more appropriate term would be cracking tre. When it gets cold enough, the SAP inside a tree will Actually freeze most of the time. It's a liquid that has all sorts of sugars and things dissolved inside it. When that SAP reaches that critical freezing temperature, which is usually well below 32 degrees, it will expand just like water will expand. When it freezes, the SAP is mostly water and the SAP expands. This puts tremendous pressure on the inside of the the tree. And if the tree is physically unable to handle that pressure, it cracks. And that's how it reduces the pressure on, on the inside of the tree. This usually does not kill the tree, but it can be a safety hazard. So if these large cracks appear in trees that are around people or buildings or vehicles, an arborist should look at this tree and determine if it is a safety hazard. What's the sound like? As you can imagine, it takes a lot of of pressure to cause wood to crack. So it would not be uncommon to hear a large cracking sound, a large popping sound that almost sounds like a gunshot, but it is actually the wood physically cracking. Any kind of tree is more vulnerable than another. Maple trees get most of the attention, given how common they are and how susceptible they are to cracking. Most hardwood trees, trees that lose their leaves in the winter will crack if it gets cold enough. And conifers such as pine trees or spruce trees can also crack as well. When the temperature gets down to about minus 20, that's when the SAP freezes and you, you get this cracking occurring. That's really cold, isn't it? The upper Midwest gets these cold temperatures every few years. So trees are used to this, they handle it. They may have a physical deformation, but they probably will live through it. This is interesting. We have maple guys in our in Gitmo nation who do maple syrup. You've received maple syrup from them. So have I. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Love maple syrup.

[John C. Dvorak]

Email me and said I've never seen this. We got maple trees. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Well, this is an. A guy who is some sort of an expert, but I mean, maybe it doesn't get cold enough. Where the maple trees are, it has to be below 20 minus 20.

[John C. Dvorak]

So minus minus 20. Oh, that's okay. That's very cold. And now we play the second piece here.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. And this is just kind of a follow up.

[John C. Dvorak]

Is there anything people can do to.

[Adam Curry]

Avoid their trees cracking?

[John C. Dvorak]

Realistically, the most practical thing for a homeowner with a small tree to do is wrap the tree with tree wrap. It's sort of like painters tape or duct tape that you wrap around the base of the tree up to the first set of lower back branches. This can help provide some insulation and hopefully reduce the likelihood that that small tree is going to reach that critical temperature at which it cracks. Bill McNee of the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources, we wish you and your colleagues and everyone in Wisconsin a good weekend. Thanks so much, sir. Thank you for having me.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

The more I think about it, I think lots of these videos that were going around might have been just AI generated.

[Adam Curry]

You think?

[John C. Dvorak]

Wouldn't be surprising, would it?

[Adam Curry]

I'd say half the stuff I'm see nowadays is AI generated.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, funny you bring that up here to explain.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, we'll stop. Wait a minute, Kelly. I was going to say I should mention dogs do not dance. Okay. Just note that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wait, are you sure? Are you sure that.

[Adam Curry]

Pretty sure. They don't dance.

[John C. Dvorak]

They don't dance.

[Adam Curry]

Here to explain, CBS News Money Watch correspondent Kelly o'.

[John C. Dvorak]

Grady.

[Adam Curry]

Kelly, good morning. So what is driving this push to.

[John C. Dvorak]

Clean up this AI content? And then what protections are out there that YouTube is will put in place?

[News Reporter]

So, I mean, there's just been an explosion of that low quality content, as you said, to the extent that over a million YouTube channels each day in December used AI technology in creating those videos a lot. And that creates a number of issues. One, you have viewer trust issues. You've got these deep fake videos that look really real and people don't know if they are. And so that also leads to the platform becoming low quality as a whole potentially. And all of those AI slot videos sort of crowding out legitimate creators trying to make a living, trying to bring us good content. And that's by the way, it's not good for advertisers or brands either. No company wants an ad running next to a bad AI video. YouTube specifically does require any creator that has created an AI generated video to say so. Their tools specifically. If you use a video or you create a video using their tools, there is a label that comes there.

[John C. Dvorak]

So you know.

[News Reporter]

Exactly, Exactly. And then in general, the algorithm tries to downrank low quality content. Doesn't always work. And it often comes down to people having to do this when things are evolving so quickly.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah, I'm happy the number one progenitor of AI is screwing themselves. I completely agree. I mean, you scroll through YouTube looking for something, it's like first of all, all the images look like art. Art. You know, everything except for the cartoony ones. It's all AI generated labels, you know, the poster images. It's like everything looks the same. It looks. If it looks AI, you're going to presume it's AI and then you play it and how many times. I don't know if you've had this. We are watching this video and after three minutes you're like, wait a minute. This is just stock footage rotating with the voiceover. There's nothing coming up here.

[Adam Curry]

I've had that happen. It's quite annoying.

[John C. Dvorak]

And it takes minutes.

[Adam Curry]

You know, it's almost like done on purpose as a joke.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, no.

[Adam Curry]

How much will you. My favorite thing is that wait till the end. Have you seen the end? And there is nothing that happens. Nothing goes on. It just goes on and just ends.

[John C. Dvorak]

You won't believe what happens. Wait till the end of this video. It's going to be great.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, because that used to mean something like five years ago.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wait for it. And right on the heels of this, of course, we have something called the Defiance act, and it has a celebrity at the forefront of promoting this act with just a hilarious side connotation in my book.

[News Reporter]

Paris Hilton was on Capitol Hill yesterday pushing for the passing of the Defiance act, and it would allow victims of sexually explicit AI generated deepfakes to take legal action against the creators and distributors of that content. Hilton spoke about the impact a leaked sex tape had on her life. She spoke about the fears that girls and women who have. Could potentially become victims of the AI pornography. The bill is championed by New York Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio Cortez.

[John C. Dvorak]

So what I found just amazing in this is that the impact. Impact the leaked sex tape which she filmed herself had for Paris Hilton was she became globally famous, just like Kim Kardashian. I mean, they probably want this act passed so that no other women can, you know, can get up into their level of fame. This is crazy.

[Adam Curry]

Well, that's an interesting analysis.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, I mean, she didn't need money being a Hilton, an heir, but she became just the.

[Adam Curry]

And this kind of attention. The first thing that got my attention in this attention grab was they now have the opportunity to sue the creators. The creators are anonymous. They're like hackers and, and, and. And guys who live in the basement and they're kind of crazy guys and some smart guys and everybody in between who can do these AI things. They do them and they slipstream them into the system. System where they get passed around by other people. And you can't. How. Who are you going to sue?

[John C. Dvorak]

Whoever posted it, probably if you post it on YouTube. I mean, it's going to have to people.

[Adam Curry]

You can't track down any half the people that are on YouTube. You can't track down anybody On Tick Tock.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I don't know. Things have changed. Terms of service change. It's the dealership. An estimated 180 million TikTok users in the US had been waiting anxiously for the fate of the app to be determined. It had been banned by a 2024 law signed by then President Joe Biden that came into effect in January 2025. The law banned social media apps linked to foreign governments like China from being available in US app stores. We can preserve TikTok, but on taking office, President Trump signed a series of executive orders providing for a delay in enforcing the law to allow time for US Investors to negotiate a deal with a Chinese parent company. President Trump acknowledged that users of the TikTok app had played a significant role in his election victory.

[Adam Curry]

Essentially, with TikTok, I have the right to either sell it or close it.

[John C. Dvorak]

And Vice President J.D. vance also played a role in pushing for a deal. Course we're going to keep on working at it, but this deal really does mean that Americans can use TikTok but.

[Adam Curry]

Actually use it with more confidence than they had in the past because their.

[John C. Dvorak]

Data is secure and it's not going to be used.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, I can use it with more confidence. Confidence of what?

[John C. Dvorak]

Confidence.

[Adam Curry]

I'm watching dancing dogs and fat chicks falling on a, on a balanced beam and all this other. What are they talking about? I'm only watching it for the amusement.

[John C. Dvorak]

That Americans can use TikTok but actually.

[Adam Curry]

Use it with more confidence than they.

[John C. Dvorak]

Had in the past because their data is going to be secure and it's not going to be used as a propaganda weapon against our fellow citizens. Full details of the deal are still revealed. The parent company ByteDance will still control a fifth of TikTok equity, but it will be joined by US tech company Oracle, a private equity firm Silver Lake and the Emirati backed investment firm mgx. Oracle is owned by Trump supporter Larry Ellison, who had previously accused the platform of of being pro Palestinian. Oracle manage TikTok's data security algorithm and cloud computing, essentially moving control into US hands. Yeah, we're going to see dancing Israelis now on the balance beam.

[Adam Curry]

So you can tell, you know, all I learned from that report because I have never seen a pro Palestinian TikTok ever. No, all I got from that report is that the Algo has determined that Larry Ellison is on TikTok looking for Palestinian material. Bingo. And he finds one. He goes, oh my God, let me look at it again and again. And then next thing you know, he's getting tons.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let me share it. I got to share it. Got to share it with my group.

[Adam Curry]

He's sharing it. So now Larry, the tech genius has decided that that's all TikTok is because he doesn't understand it at all. Is that what I'm being told? That's what I'm being told.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, the terms and conditions have changed. Interesting that there is a. A Middle Eastern co owner of this because of course, we have to have confidence that it's not China who has our data. The language in the new policy I'm reading from the New York Times was more Sweeping. It said TikTok would use the data it collected from users and third parties to show customized ads and other sponsored content both on TikTok and on other websites. This is exactly what they accused China of doing. Users can adjust their advertising permissions in the app. Sure.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Right.

[John C. Dvorak]

So this was always about. And it kind of backfired because it was Google. Google and Facebook, they hated this because it was taking their lunch. Their lunch money. It was billions of dollars. And now. And I'm sure these guys, I'm sure they'll run it into the ground. There's no vision behind it. You know, they're fine.

[Adam Curry]

So. Yeah, they will. You're right.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. I don't see it.

[Adam Curry]

They always had. Yeah. Well, all this stuff.

[John C. Dvorak]

Boots on the ground. From one of our Department of War producers, Anonymous, for obvious reasons, wants to provide some quick feedback after attempting to use the Department of War's Gen AI. Now, do we recall what this Gen AI was supposed to do? Was supposed to.

[Adam Curry]

I don't recall, but I do. I do recall it, but I don't recall what it's supposed to do.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, it was going to help with operations.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah. It was going to be a lifesaver. Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

So he says. Right now, still, the only LLM implemented is Gemini. Grok, chatgpt and Claude are not accessible yet. So he tried a couple of different things. He says the military has probably the largest corpus of data to pull from. So my first attempt, I figured I should be able to get Gemini to format a standard name naval letter, considering there's plenty of information to pull from. Nope. In fact, the amount of time it took me to generate a simple message in official formatting with multiple prompts attempting to correct it took me well beyond the time span of just creating one from scratch. Right.

[Adam Curry]

This is a note. This is notable because this is the case with most AI.

[John C. Dvorak]

Second, I knew this was a long shot, but I had a brag sheet for recognizing someone for their service during the quarter as we call them, sailor, soldier, nco, et cetera of the quarter. Packages have a standard format. The brag sheet was the relevant has the relevant data points to input. In theory it should have just plugged and played what was what was needed instead. Repeat of above last attempt. A real world case. Operational planning. This was a very simple test. I grabbed grid coordinates for a known area that could support one of our rotary wing platforms. That's helicopters for a landing zone and plan prompted. Would these grid coordinates support CV22 land zone? I presume that's an Osprey. What I got was generic information about theorized capability but no recommendation because it couldn't assess the area while we have individuals that specifically do this analysis. I had to do this site assessment previously in my career for offhand work for on the fly medevac landing zones on public LZs landing zones on public plan to support training cycles. Not ability. Big ask. But if it can't do this basic task, I doubt it can do anything very complex. So these are three of the things that were promised that would take the Department of War into the next century of technology. And it can't. It can't do.

[Adam Curry]

Did it took it in the next century.

[John C. Dvorak]

There is some.

[Adam Curry]

That is the next century. Hello.

[John C. Dvorak]

There is some exciting news for both you and I. This kind of goes along with my idea. That AI or whatever you want to.

[Adam Curry]

Call this.

[John C. Dvorak]

Is really great when decentralized. When you can have it at home. Enter Gwent quin3q u e n3 dash tts. This is from the. From the Chinese. They've open sourced a very lightweight model which does exactly what eleven Labs does. And you can run it on home computer stuff. And There is a GitHub. You can download it. You can download the models and I've tried it. It's.

[Adam Curry]

What is it? Give me the name of it again.

[John C. Dvorak]

Quinn. That's the. What is it? That's the. What's the. What's the big. The Chinese Amazon. What's the Chinese Amazon?

[Adam Curry]

I don't know.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, you do. The big. The big Shimu.

[Adam Curry]

To me.

[John C. Dvorak]

The big one. You buy all the crap on Shimu.

[Adam Curry]

Or Shimo or whatever.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, not Teemu. The one that had the. The guy who got kicked out. The Chinese.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, okay. I can't remember the name.

[John C. Dvorak]

Alibaba. Alibaba.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, Alibaba Director.

[John C. Dvorak]

Instead of to Baba Low T Qwen 3 TTS. They have a little example. You can run it on one of their cloud services.

[Adam Curry]

I like it. It's a catchy name.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, it's not.

[Adam Curry]

It's a catchy name. Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Quinn 3 TTS.

[Adam Curry]

So, yeah, that's it.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'll be loading this up on my Linux system.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, it runs on Linux.

[John C. Dvorak]

It. You can run it on. I think you can run it on almost anything. It's easiest to run it on Linux. Yeah. Because you know, you have that open, Open web, open ui, whatever you can load all the open source models on. But it's good. It's really surprising. And you can also sample your own voice. So that's, that's what I'll be doing.

[Adam Curry]

That's what I've been wanting to do with 11 labs. But I don't use the free version. It won't let me know.

[John C. Dvorak]

11 labs cost you like 199 bucks a. I'm not.

[Adam Curry]

I'm still not paying.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, but you're going to use this and you're going to love it. This is. This.

[Adam Curry]

That sounds. You sound correct.

[John C. Dvorak]

This has John C. Dvorak written all over it. I find this fascinating. This is exactly the problem these guys have. They're all trying to make all these goodies for everybody. And meanwhile the china is just like, here, have this for free. They're screwing with these guys. They really are. It's good.

[Adam Curry]

Well, if it's as good as you say.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think I've only seen. I've only done the demo.

[Adam Curry]

I get my Spuds Oakley voice. I'll take it from 11 labs and give it to this system. I can get it for free. I can have it read a book.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, let me give you an example. I think, I think they have. I think they have.

[Adam Curry]

Now first of all, 11 labs is terrific product. So I'm not going to demeanor mean them, except I just don't need to pay hundreds of dollars a year for anything for a little.

[John C. Dvorak]

A little gag. Yeah, no, I agree. You don't, you don't need that. I can't find the. I'll have to find the. I'll just, I'll just load it. I'm gonna load it and we're gonna test it. Oh, hugging face demo. Here we go on hugging face. So. Okay, give me, give me some text. Not too long. Just because it's a demo. Give me, give me something for it.

[Adam Curry]

To say, okay, now's the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, now describe the voice. So just describe it. The tone.

[Adam Curry]

Husky female lesbian.

[John C. Dvorak]

Husky female lesbian. Okay. Any. Any particular international with a lisp? Okay, I am Going to generate the audio zero GPU queue. Waiting for a GPU to become available. I successfully acquired a gpu. This is exciting. We've acquired a zero GPU gpu. I'm not quite sure what that means. The progress bar is moving to the left. I see a waveform starting to appear. Processing 17, 90, 19. 20 seconds of 26.3 seconds. This is so exciting. John, we're about to hear your husky female lesbian with a list. Here we go. Here we go. Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country. No lisp, but it wasn't bad.

[Adam Curry]

It was close.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Now let me. Let me just. It was a nice husky voice speaking excitedly. Maybe we need to add the.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, do that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, I got an error. Oh, you reach your quota. Create Pro account.

[Adam Curry]

Register.

[John C. Dvorak]

The Chinese are the same as every other silicon valve.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah. They're the same douchebags as all the other software people.

[John C. Dvorak]

What would.

[Adam Curry]

Why not?

[John C. Dvorak]

I. Only generated two of these while testing it before the show. And then I reached my quota. Thanks, hugging face. I'll give it a shot. I'll load it up and we'll have some fun with it on the. In a week from now. We'll have some fun. All right. We'll see.

[Adam Curry]

I haven't asked Adam for a little side trip here.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right. All right, everybody. It's time to ask Adam. All right.

[Adam Curry]

What do we want to preface this by? Talking. This is from the CBS even News. And. And Barry Weiss is under nothing but relentless attack, including from Canada from your buddy Megan Kelly, who called her a lesbian.

[John C. Dvorak]

What?

[Adam Curry]

According to this. There's a good article.

[John C. Dvorak]

Tina should have told me this. She always. She's always on the tip. On that tip. She hasn't. She. She knows all this stuff. I'm surprised.

[Adam Curry]

So she is. Barry Weiss is under attack. And there's a good article in the ringer. You should. People just look at the ring her and find either search for Barry Weiss or CBS News about Tony Dukapol who's. You know, everyone doesn't like him either because he's too kind of a.

[John C. Dvorak]

Isn't he the guy that. That introduced Candace and her beard?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah. He's. He's. According to Megyn Kelly. And this is secondhand because this was written in the. In the article she says that Dukapol was picked as the anchor because that's a lesbian's ideal of a man.

[John C. Dvorak]

Really?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Because it went on. It's quite funny. But they go on and on. And I actually think he Does a good job to be honest about it. I think he's fine. He's as good as Tom Yamis.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And some of these other guys.

[John C. Dvorak]

He's just pretty, just look pretty and read the prompters. It's not all that hard.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, that's basically. You're right. But, but this, it's the. What's the problem is that's not correctable is the staff, the infrastructure. Once you get this, I've said this, we've said this on the show. It's kind of a theme. Don't hire woke people because once they get in your organization, they contaminate it and ruin it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it's a problem.

[Adam Curry]

And so it's the writing in the back rooms and they. And the reporters that are all a bunch of Democrats that are in there. And you can't get. Get rid of them overnight. You never will. And so here's this report. So this becomes an Ask Adam because it's so stupid. This is Ask Adam. This is about the murder rate and this is the question.

[John C. Dvorak]

Murders dropped by more than 20% last year, down to what may be the lowest murder rate in more than a century, according to a new study. The Council on Criminal justice says it crunched numbers in 40 large cities and found that carjackings and shoplifting are also down. And the cause, mostly it's. Answer the question.

[Adam Curry]

Go.

[John C. Dvorak]

So my question is the cause of the drop of the carjackings and murder rate.

[Adam Curry]

What is the cause? Don't forget, this is a hundred years. Oh, a hundred years of murders.

[John C. Dvorak]

I know the answer.

[Adam Curry]

They're down.

[John C. Dvorak]

I know the answer.

[Adam Curry]

Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

Climate change.

[Adam Curry]

That, that Almost.

[John C. Dvorak]

Almost. And the cause, mostly it says a return to normal after the pandemic. Close enough. Yeah, yeah. Covid.

[Adam Curry]

Wait a minute. Covid was a hundred years ago? Is that what they're telling us? So a hundred years ago after Covid, it's gone down because of the end of COVID Are you kidding me? What kind of analysis? What logic? Where's the logic? This is 100 years, not five.

[John C. Dvorak]

It should have been climate change. It would have been much better news.

[Adam Curry]

Climate change would have been a better. Actually would have been a better answer than that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, while we're doing fun stuff, picked up a Politico interview with the gay General Patton, known as Scott Besant. We had a conversation about his, his script writing, that someone had written these scripts for him. You know, if someone's writing scripts are giving him one liners and he's good at remembering.

[News Reporter]

Listen, some of the European leaders have Gotten criticism from Democrats, people like Gavin Newsom.

[John C. Dvorak]

Cardi is actually one of the few.

[News Reporter]

People that Newsom has praised. He said he brought knee pads for some of the other European leaders that he thinks have been to too accommodating to the President.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think Gavin Newsom may be cracking up with some of these things he's saying. I think he may be in over his hairdo. And being on the national stage is very different than being governor of California with no signature achievements. But to say strange things like President Trump is a Tyrannosaurus rex. What the hell does that mean? You know, I could say Gavin Newsom is a brontosaurus with a brain the size of a walnut. And, you know, if you brought the knee pads, maybe that was for his meeting with Alex Soros. I don't know.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, the knee pads thing is going to haunt him forever. Yeah, but the memes are already out there.

[John C. Dvorak]

But to have Scott Bessant say this.

[Adam Curry]

Is just, it's interesting, particularly. Yes, very. It's actually, it's an amplification of the insult just by the fact that it's Besant, who's a kind of a milquetoast guy that's got all these zingers. Are you kidding me?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, in that interview, I didn't clip it, he says, hey, I'm just a kid from South Carolina. He says, I learned to fend for myself. I kind of believe that he just grew up to be kind of just this whole Persona says royal family. Not like I'm going to insult you with a knee pad retort. It's just, it's something funny about it.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. South Carolinians are the. You know, when the Civil War broke out, South Carolina was one of the successionist states that really was pushing for a monarchy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, really?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, they've always been somewhat regal. The South Carolinians are regal. They have a regal reality that is unparalleled in the entire country.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, having been there a couple times, I can see that they like their little palaces there. They got those houses, man, some of them were just amazing. Here's another one from Scott Besant, although not as lewd. This is about Alberta. Look, Alberta is a wealth of natural resources, but they, they won't let them build a pipeline to the Pacific. I, I think we should let them come into the U.S. and Alberta is a natural partner for the U.S. they have great resources. The Albertans are very independent people. Rumors that they may have a referendum on whether they want to stay in Canada or not. Yeah, well, it's not just a rumor.

[Adam Curry]

Did you say rumors?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, he said rumor, which is not a rumor. No, it's not a rumor at all. But. But it may not have been Davos. That may have been earlier, but still, the sign up for the referendum has been going on for a couple weeks now. I just do have another Davos because Davos is kind of wrapped up and just looking at some, just trolling for some material here. Bill Gates, this is so on brand for what he says here. It was just mind blowing that he still gets away with this.

[Adam Curry]

So the AI is entering into the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Health system, but not just into the health system. It's all the way down to the level of the patient. So the patient is able to talk in their local language and describe what's going on. And so in order to make this a reality, to see what works, what doesn't work, we're thrilled that OpenAI, the Gates foundation, are committing an initiative called Horizon 1000, where we're going to a thousand primary healthcare clinics in Africa.

[Adam Curry]

And the goal is to make.

[John C. Dvorak]

He's like, whatever we can do. Let's test it on the black people over there.

[Adam Curry]

The work in Africa, much higher quality and if possible, twice as efficient as it is today.

[John C. Dvorak]

Taking away the paperwork, work that needs to be done, organizing the resources, you know, so the patient knows what's available and when to come for their appointment. So there's all sorts of things can be improved. So it's basically a chat bot. Okay. You know, Rwanda is a great partner for the Gates Foundation. Yeah. Oh, yeah, we love. We got lots of cadavers from Rwanda to test in a lot of things. And so, you know, we're thrilled, thrilled that that's actually the first country that.

[Adam Curry]

This work will go into.

[John C. Dvorak]

We'll certainly also over time work in Kenya, South Africa, Nigeria. And you have, you know, different systems that we have to connect into. Although not this initiative, there's obviously a lot going on in India as well. And so, you know, over the next couple of years, I would expect to be developing world health, may even get ahead of Rich world, because the need.

[Adam Curry]

Is so great and the governments are.

[John C. Dvorak]

Embracing this and making sure that it's moving at full speed. So basically you go in, the chat bot says, oh, you need a shot. Clearly, just stick your arm in here, we'll give you a shot. This guy is a ghoul. He's a total ghoul. And while we're leaving the World Health Organization, your state is reentering.

[News Reporter]

California Governor Gavin Newsom has announced the state is joining the World Health Organization's Global Outbreak Alert and Response Network.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's more.

[News Reporter]

The announcement comes a day after the US Formally withdrew from the WHO and is the latest move by Newsom to move California away from federal health policy.

[John C. Dvorak]

But wait, this is your state. This is what your money's going to be spent on.

[Adam Curry]

And meanwhile, according to an expenditure line.

[John C. Dvorak]

Item in the government governor's proposed 20, 26, 27 state budget, the governor is requesting $33,000 for a self portrait. No details on who's going to be.

[Adam Curry]

Painting that portrait or where it's going to be displayed.

[John C. Dvorak]

The full budget is pegged at about $348 billion. Okay, so two things. One, $348 billion and self portrait. Is he going to pay himself?

[Adam Curry]

That's what I said.

[John C. Dvorak]

It makes no sense.

[Adam Curry]

Well, it'd be a stick figure, but it'd be, you know, 30. He needs them. He needs $33,000. So he's going to paint himself. So obviously that was not misreported.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. But as usual, hilarious. Just hilarious.

[Adam Curry]

It is funny.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Let's see, what else do we do? You want to hear elon, from. From Dr. Davos.

[Adam Curry]

He was there.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah, well, he.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah, that's right. I saw him.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, With Fink. Fink, who was quick to point out everywhere, I'm interim co chair. Just interim. I'm only interim. I'm not part of the World Economic Forum. I just interim. He had to keep saying it everywhere, sticking his finger up. Interim, interim. So he's got. So he's got.

[Adam Curry]

So he's the guy running it right now. Yeah, he got the other guy kicked out so he could take it over so they could do some deals. It's all about BlackRock deals worldwide.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it's all about the deals, of course.

[Adam Curry]

And so he's going to. Yeah, he's in tight with Trump. Him and Trump are buddies. In fact, one of the overlooked details about his friend, even though he's a Democrat, Fink. Jewish, by the way. Make sure to note that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. Troll room. Take note.

[Adam Curry]

Take note. Troll room. So Fink. Fink is the guy who actually bought CK Hutchinson ports all over the world through BlackRock, and that includes Rotterdam, by the way. He owns half of Rotterdam's ports now.

[John C. Dvorak]

He's in the drug trade then.

[Adam Curry]

And he is the one that made the Panama deal go through. He's the one who bought the ports from the Chinese with BlackRock, which made it easy. So Trump didn't have to make a big fuss or go to War or anything. So Trump and him are in bed as pals and Trump and as a favorite of Trump, he's the one who told Newsom he had to cancel his speech at Davos and he could be, you know, be interviewed or something else he got booted out, got pissed off about. That's why he was so irked about the knee pads and everything else, because he thought that, you know, he's being. Being railroaded, which he was, because he shouldn't be there in the first place. He's the governor of California. What's he doing at Davos?

[John C. Dvorak]

Third largest economy in the world.

[Adam Curry]

Fourth. And so there is falling fast.

[John C. Dvorak]

He said third, though.

[Adam Curry]

He said, well, he's wrong. And so you end up with this craziness going on between Fink and Trump and. Which is not really being noticed enough.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's good. I didn't know that he had basically done the, The. The Panama deal.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, that's very interesting. Of course, it's our money. This isn't the US Government money.

[Adam Curry]

Whatever you can sure it's not Fink's money.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, it's not his. So Elon is at Davos. And I have to say, Elon is underwhelming. He. He doesn't have a good rap anymore. The stuff he says is like, okay, whatever. And he. And all these AI guys, whether it's him or whether it's all Altman and it's Emilio, it's a clique.

[Adam Curry]

It's milieu.

[John C. Dvorak]

Creepy.

[Adam Curry]

And you're right, it lacks charisma.

[John C. Dvorak]

Lacks charisma. They all are looking up to the left, which. What is that? An nlp. If your eyes look up to the.

[Adam Curry]

Left, you're trying to visualize something you're dreaming. You're making in a dream world.

[John C. Dvorak]

You're in a dream world. You got talk like difficult because, you know, I'm a genius. I mean.

[Adam Curry]

What a start.

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean, the way to think of it is that if you have a large number of humanoid robots, the economic output is the average productivity per robot times the number of robots. Wow. Wow. Let's listen to that calculation again. Is.

[Adam Curry]

Wait, let's.

[John C. Dvorak]

I gotta listen to that. That was so dumb. Large number of humanoid robots. The economic output is the economic output of a large number of human. Humanoid robots is the average productivity per robot times the number of robots. No, no, no, no, no, no. Say it's not so that I never would have come up with that calculation. Right, right. And. And actually my prediction is in the, in the benign scenario. Benign scenario that we Will the robots will actually make so many robots in AI that they will actually saturate all human needs, Meaning you won't be able to even think of something to ask the robot for. Yes, yes, I have something. Could you please do this podcast for us? That would be very helpful. Humanoid robot. At a certain point, like, there will be such an abundance of goods and services because my prediction is there'll be more robots than people. So.

[Adam Curry]

But how do you then have human purpose in the that scenario?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I mean, you know, there are. Nothing's perfect, you know, kill all humans.

[Adam Curry]

Human purpose, kill all robots.

[John C. Dvorak]

But I mean, it is a necessary. Listen to this. Like, you can't have both. You can't have work that has to be done and amazing abundance for all. Because if it's work that has to be done, then. And only some people can do it, then you can't have abundance.

[Adam Curry]

It's narrow.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's narrow.

[Adam Curry]

He's a mess.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, we'll wait for it. It's coming at the end and can I say something?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, of course. He always underperforms in front of. Or he's not one. He's like most people supposedly, they can't perform in front of an audience. He's not a theater kid. He's good on one. On one interviews when he's with somebody and he can focus on them and skill skewer him. But when he's playing to a large audience, he's always like this. He's not good. He shouldn't even do it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, this is a one on one panel between him and.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, but there's a bunch of people watching it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah. Well, listen. Listen to his vision. You. You can't have abundance.

[Adam Curry]

It's narrow.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's narrow. Exactly. So. But if you, if you have billions of humanoid robots, I think there will be. I think everyone on Earth is going to have one and going to want one because who wouldn't want a robot to. All right, what do you think his examples are of what our robots of the future will do?

[Adam Curry]

Well, what they should do, they do the dishes and vacuum the floor and they run errands and they scratch your back.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, assuming it's very safe. Watch over your kids, take care of your pet. 2. Two of the joys in life.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Is watching the robots are supposed to free you up so you can do that activity.

[John C. Dvorak]

I want to play with my pet. I want.

[Adam Curry]

You want to play with the dog and you want to, you know, tumble around with the kids.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sure. Here comes the worst one. If you have elderly parents. A lot of friends of mine said they have elderly parents.

[Adam Curry]

Parents.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's very difficult to take care of them. Expensive. Yeah, yeah. Oh, you know what? Kill the elder. Have the robot kill your parents.

[Adam Curry]

There you go. Now you're being realistic.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's expensive and it's expensive, and there just aren't enough people to take care of the. There aren't enough young people to take care of the old people. Well, wait a minute. If we have robots, then, yes, we can have the young people taking care of the old people. It's. By the way, it's enjoyable for the old people and for young people. They might learn something. Something like, don't let the robots take over. This is so.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, we teach him something, right? I mean, you know, when I was a kid, they didn't have robots.

[John C. Dvorak]

I almost expected him. Say, you know, the robot will know when you're out of milk in the.

[Adam Curry]

Fridge, and it'll order new milk that's coming.

[John C. Dvorak]

That. Well, that. That would be what I would expect. And with that, before our children kill us, I want to thank you for your courage. Say in the morning to you, the man who put The C and 53 Mexican consulates, say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only, Mr. John C. Devorah.

[Adam Curry]

Good morning, Marsh chipsee. Boost on the ground, subs in the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Water.

[Adam Curry]

All the things in the.

[John C. Dvorak]

In the morning to the trolls in the troll room. Let me count you for a second, 2076. Today. It is a snow day. That's why everybody's inside and couldn't go to the mailbox to send us a check, because this will be one of the shorter segments we do in the lifetime of this show. The whole idea is value for value. Then we give you value if you.

[Adam Curry]

Don'T find it valuable not giving them enough value, I guess.

[John C. Dvorak]

I guess our value was low.

[Adam Curry]

Well, it's. You know, we're beating up a lot of dead dogs here.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, we're not. We've had. We.

[Adam Curry]

Dead horses. I'm sorry.

[John C. Dvorak]

We're giving people a whole new perspective on what's happening in Minneapolis. No, I think. No, I don't think we're. We're beating up dead dogs.

[Adam Curry]

We're doing dead horses.

[John C. Dvorak]

Or horses. We're doing. We're not doing what all the other programs do, which is.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, that's the problem. You're right. We're not being in the podcast industrial complex and they. And the. And the circle jerk.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, we're not. He killed him. No, he didn't. He didn't have a gun. Rewind the video. Let's take a look. What do you see? What do you think? No, we're not doing Zapruder analysis. We're analyzing your world from a different point of view. So we hope you find that valuable. And you should be listening to us on one of those very valuable modern podcast apps so that you can. Can get the bat signal when we go live. Because we do the show live, and of course, once we publish it, within 90 seconds, you will know what we're doing it live.

[Adam Curry]

When do we go live?

[John C. Dvorak]

No one told you? Value for value is measured in multiple ways. Time, talent, or treasure. Meetups are appreciated. Doing boots on the ground, like we had a good boots on the ground report and all. Anonymous Department of War employee from the Navy. Apparently, this is all helpful. This is what makes the show, of course, is that we have thousands of producers. Not like Don Lemon, who just has some FBI handlers. We have actual producers who know stuff because they are in the workplace, they are out in the real world, and we feel that we are close to you. We are connected. We also have people who are pretty good at AI stuff, and they like to prompt a lot. And we want to thank Blue Acorn. Blue Acorn, who I think is a real digital artist. Obviously he knew what he was doing when he created this art for episode 1836. We titled that Big Bully. His exploding tree art was spot on. And everybody got it. It was meta to the max. It was the perfect time for this type of. If you look at this tree exploding with the. With that. With the googly eyes and the other trees behind it all flipping out, I think it was a perfectly timed, well executed hijack of cultural memology.

[Adam Curry]

I think so, too. I liked the piece a lot. I liked the two pieces from him. I also like T. Rex Trump, which I thought was competitive.

[John C. Dvorak]

It was.

[Adam Curry]

And so he had heard us going on and on about the greatness of Darren o' Neal and Jeffrey Ria and said to himself, what. What am I? What? A chopped liver? And so he. He cranked out a bunch of stuff, because he's not. Obviously, he's in the same category.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, a couple. A couple of these guys are back also. Hello. Bob Dietrich. He's. He's moving up. He's to trying. Trying to do stuff. Blue Acorn. Who else was back? I saw a couple of Matthew Dropko people are back. Scaramanga, you know, a lot of people.

[Adam Curry]

Once you start singling people out, the ones who don't get mentioned yeah, they go away, which is the way it should be, by the way. They get. They get irked, and the next thing you know, they're. They're cranking out stuff because they have to. You know, they want their chops. They got chops. They want to set recognition.

[John C. Dvorak]

Like Nick the Rat, who, you know, he's. He's doing stuff, but it's. I know. I think he's trying to get into the AI swing of things is not quite there for him yet.

[Adam Curry]

It takes time.

[John C. Dvorak]

It does.

[Adam Curry]

It will happen.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, I see a Parker Paulie showed up today. I mean, Eli the coffee guy is doing. Is doing art stuff now. So I like the diversity. I like the diversity of artists and the diversity of models used. Finally. Finally, we're seeing something different. So thank you very much. Blueacorn for the artwork for our previous episode. No artgenerator.com. we should just have a large language model built right into this thing. Now I think about it. So everybody could participate on equal footing and create all of the same slop as part of this. Value for value. We always appreciate receiving treasure. The third of the three T's extremely important to keep the show going. Many want it to go for four more years. We shall see. And in this, we always thank everybody who supports us with $50 or above. And the whole idea is you can send us whatever value you got out of it. Just send it [e-mail] Jeffrey, Alicia, is from Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. Sent us $333.33. He receives an executive producership title, which is a real title. You can even use it on IMDb.com I do not have a note from Jeffrey. What?

[Adam Curry]

You. You just skipped a guy at the top of the list.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't notice that my scroll was off. Windows. I'll do the top two then. Damascene. Do you think it's Damascene or Damascene?

[Adam Curry]

I have no idea.

[John C. Dvorak]

He's from Boston. Or she is from Boston, Massachusetts. 34375. Just Damaskin. I think it's Damaskin. Now. Is it Damaskine or Damaskin? There's two different.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Yes. The wrong guy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Ah, with the emphasis on this emphasis on Damascus. Oh, Damaskin. Damaskin. Oh, okay. All right. Damn askin. Thank you. 34375. And there is Jeffrey Alicia, Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. 333.33. Double up karma for you. You've got.

[News Reporter]

Karma.

[Adam Curry]

And then there's Sir Martin. Coming up, a Sir Mark Ben Bendy bus. Oh, I'm sorry. Bendikow, which I mean it means bus in Polish. Ben Bendikowski. Kowalski.

[John C. Dvorak]

Kowalskowski. I think it's Bendikowski. Bendikowski. Bendikowski, yeah, Bendikowski. Bendikowski.

[Adam Curry]

Which is bendy bus. He's in Warsaw, Poland. Now you're talking.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. The signal is reaching.

[Adam Curry]

Reports some boots on the ground. What do you think is going on?

[John C. Dvorak]

The signal is reaching. Watching Poland. The dipole is finally dynamite.

[Adam Curry]

He came up at 3:33.33. And he says, adam and John Curva love you.

[John C. Dvorak]

Kurva.

[Adam Curry]

What does that mean? Come on.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's kind of a Polish semi swear word.

[Adam Curry]

More like somebody loves his crap.

[John C. Dvorak]

Crap, I love you. Something like that. The comics are blogger. No, he taught me the word. And there's David Byrne of the Talking Heads from Staten Island. We don't know if it's David Byrne from Talking Heads, but it's David Burn. That would be Burns. This is Byrne.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah, it's burn.

[John C. Dvorak]

234, Associate Executive Producership for you. A real credit. He says, don't forget to tip your waitress and try the veal. All right, thank you, Staten Island.

[Adam Curry]

And here he is, our La Jolla Salt Corporation representative at 210 60. Are you stuck in a linguistic rut? Is the only note we got, actually the only note except for Linda. Are you stuck in a linguistic rut? By the way, at the end of the day, this and that and the other thing clinging to your lingo, you know Mark Levin, by the way, if you listen to Mark Levin, boy, here we go. You can't go five seconds out saying, and so on and so forth.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, boy.

[Adam Curry]

Or so forth and so on and so forth. And there's a whole bunch of these things and so on and so forth. Okay, drives. It's just. It's just ridiculous. It does. I should make a. I could do a super cut. Knock him out with a large whole cloth, period. Full stop with the ac. I don't know. He's lining these things up with it with a sea salt scrub.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, there it is.

[Adam Curry]

The main part he wants.

[John C. Dvorak]

Here it is.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Sea salt scrub from La Jolla. La jollasalt.com moisturize, exfoliate, relax and enjoy your soothing scents. To reset your mental buffers, cleanse and moisturize your skin and speech patterns today. Then he says, speech pattern cleaning, cleansing not guaranteed. Please do not eat the product. So don't eat the product, please. But he says, please support the show. Show people. 2, 1060.

[John C. Dvorak]

And there's Matthew Martel from Martell Hardware.com he's in Brumal, Pennsylvania. $210.60, he says. Hey, JCD, to your point, I digress. Visit Martell Hardware.com use coupon code SNOWPOCALYPSE for an additional 10% off your order. We're all going to die Hot Pockets we're all going to die Hot Pockets. Short and sweet.

[Adam Curry]

Linda loopatkin Castle Rock, Colorado 200 jobs karma for a competitive edge with a resume that gets Results, go to ImageMakers Inc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs. That's Image Makers Inc. With a K. And work with Linda Lou, Duchess of jobs and writer of Winning resumes, Jobs.

[News Reporter]

Jobs, Jobs and Jobs. Let's vote for Jobs Karma.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right, Linda Liu, thank you. And then we have a bitcoin donation coming in through strike, which is available at no agenda donations.com $200. No idea who it's from, which is unfortunate, but if you send us a note, we'll gladly make make good on that. Thank you to these executive and associate executive producers. Very short list and I don't think the 15 above is much longer, but we will be thanking them in our second se. We appreciate anytime you send us value back. That is the way the show works. That's why you don't hear, you know, prepackaged corporate messaging and ads and none of that stuff. I mean, sure, people get plugs, plugs all they want. You can plug whatever you want at any time. We're happy with that. But there's no collusion. There's no rehearsal, there's no scripts and no meetings. Boy, do we hate meetings with advertisers. That's just the worst. And we're not interrupting your program constantly with with pods, an ad pod, and a big ad load. So go to no agenda donations.com and support us any amount, anytime. Whatever you feel you got out of the show, send it back to us. You can also set up a recurring donation, which is any amount, any frequency. Again, all up to you. We do love the numerology. And if you have a current recurring donation, please check it. Make sure that your credit card or whatever payment system you using is still valid because those do tend expire from time to time. Thank you again to our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1837.

[Adam Curry]

Our formula is this.

[John C. Dvorak]

We go out, we hit people in the mouth.

[Adam Curry]

Order.

[John C. Dvorak]

Shut up slave.

[Adam Curry]

Shut up slave. I have two Ukraine clips that we can get out of the way and keep up with that a bit.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay?

[Adam Curry]

One is an analysis from Colonel McGregor, but the first one I want to play is the Ukraine update. This is from yesterday on NPR.

[News Reporter]

U.S. officials say progress was made in trilateral talks with Russia and Ukraine to end Moscow's nearly four year long war. NPR's Tamar Keith reports. The U. S. Team spoke to reporters after two days of meetings in Abu Dhabi with high level delegations from Ukraine and Russia. The officials said, quote, just getting them to the table to talk is a big step. And quote, the conversations were very respectful even if there were no significant breakthroughs. They said having everyone in the same room was progress. After months of at times frustrating shuttle diplomacy, major sticking points remain, including how territory will be divided up and the terms of de escalation if there is a deal. The officials say the next meeting has already been set for a week from now. Again, in opposition Dhabi. Meanwhile, Russia launched hundreds of drones and missiles at Ukraine's two largest cities as the talks went on. This is NPR News.

[John C. Dvorak]

Did you hear Zelensky at Davos?

[Adam Curry]

Oh, I, I don't know if I had.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I have a minute 10 report. It's kind of funny because, well, you'll hear it in this clip. Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky slammed Europe in his address to the World Economic Forum in Davos for In Action, describing it as a lost continent. In his scathing critique, Zelensky says Europe is stuck in an endless cycle of failing to defend itself or decisively supporting Ukraine, likening the situation to the US Film Groundhog Day. What about the ceasefire itself?

[Adam Curry]

Who can help make it happen? Europe loves to discuss the future but avoids taking action today, action that defines.

[John C. Dvorak]

What kind of future we will have. Why can't President Trump stop tankers from the shadow fleet and seize oil, but Europe doesn't? Russian oil is being transported right along European shores. That oil funds the war against Ukraine.

[Adam Curry]

That oil helps destabilize Europe.

[John C. Dvorak]

So Russian oil must be stopped and confiscated and sold for Europe's benefit. Why not? His address followed a private meeting with US President Donald Trump to discuss the latest on the ground and ongoing peace efforts. I think Trump literally gave him a piece of paper say this. I mean he had a meeting with, with the Trump and then he said, hey, these Europeans, they're still taking Russian oil from ghost ships. They're funding the war against us. Hmm.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. You know, what you said was kind of offhanded, but I think you actually might be correct.

[John C. Dvorak]

I was, it wasn't that offhanded. I mean, when I heard the report, I'M like, well, that's obvious why he said that. Trump said, don't, don't screw it up, man. Say this, those guys suck in Europe. They suck.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, they suck. Well, he's not wrong.

[John C. Dvorak]

No.

[Adam Curry]

All right, well, so we go to Colonel McGregor's got this show, you know.

[John C. Dvorak]

And doesn't answer your calls.

[Adam Curry]

No, no, but he'll do anybody else's podcast, but he won't come and do an interview with us because, you know, we're, we're just the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, the best might ask a real question.

[Adam Curry]

But, but he does have an interesting little screed, this type of analysis here that is worth listening to.

[John C. Dvorak]

President Trump doesn't seem to want to kill the bad old ideas.

[Adam Curry]

You know, he's, he's got his own set of bad ideas.

[John C. Dvorak]

He could have gone into NATO and said, listen, this is over. The United States will not support war with Russia. We want to normalize our relations with Russia. We want to do business with Russia. Russia is not interested in conquering Europe. So sit down, shut up and get.

[Adam Curry]

On board with us.

[John C. Dvorak]

And if you're not going to get on board with us, they that's fine, then get on another ship because we're not sailing the war. He could have done that.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Has he done it? No, he hasn't. And then he looks, look at a place like Kiev under this man, Zelensky. Zelensky is a defeated regime. Ukraine has been defeated, if not destroyed.

[Adam Curry]

Shut up.

[John C. Dvorak]

We're going to sort this out and you're going to live with what we come up with. People had common sense 100, 200 years ago when they separate, settled these wars. They took that position. But again, when did they do that? They did it after the Napoleonic wars because they'd seen millions of people die. They'd seen cities and towns destroyed. They didn't want that anymore. It took 100 years to forget it and go back to war again in 1914. No, that's from a historical standpoint, pretty good.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Europeans, they're nuts.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, along those lines, a little long. A little over two minutes. I know. Well, if you get tired of it, then we can stop.

[Adam Curry]

Why do you ever get to this two minute rule? I don't remember us ever establishing it, but we have.

[John C. Dvorak]

I like 130 myself. In fact, I'll call.

[Adam Curry]

I prefer one, but I use the two minute rule and I always feel crappy when I look and it comes out at 205.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well, that's exactly why I'm prefacing it by saying I Feel it's too. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

You're apologizing in advance.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I feel it's too long.

[Adam Curry]

But generally speaking, if it's too long, it's usually good.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, you don't like the guy, so it might not be. But on the periphery of Davos, there's all these other little institutions and interviews. It's kind of like the Academy Awards in a way. You got to this tent and you do an interview there. You go to that tent and. Or you've got to talk to E. Entertainment. Does E Entertainment.

[Adam Curry]

They.

[John C. Dvorak]

They go belly up. Are they gone? Is that still around?

[Adam Curry]

Not that I know of.

[John C. Dvorak]

Are they still around?

[Adam Curry]

E News, I think is folded, but the E. Network's still around. I think they still have a mic on the red carpet. I have to look into it now.

[John C. Dvorak]

So I. I do what? I think we both do this. I'm always cutting out pauses, particularly the, like Francis 24. They leave long pauses. Whenever someone's being translated, they always start with. And the voice comes over. What I was trying to say. I cut out all the wakatucka waka. Yeah, it's annoying, you know, it doesn't do anything.

[Adam Curry]

I leave a snippet.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, about that much. So this is Janus Verufakis. Roll eyes now. Now, what's interesting about him. And this is in his wheelhouse. And this is not one of those AI videos that I get tricked into a couple weeks ago. This is him on stage being interviewed. He was the finance minister later, I think prime minister, but the finance minister of Greece when Europe. When we had the Euro crisis and they blamed it all on Greece and they. Yeah, it was so bad that Dutch people were refusing to go to Greek restaurants. That's how crazy Europe is. Well, the Greeks screwed us, man, so we're not going to support them.

[Adam Curry]

Is that right?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Don't you remember that?

[Adam Curry]

No, I don't remember him not going to Greek restaurants.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I could probably look it up on the. On Bing it and find it. Yeah, they wouldn't go to Greek restaurants. And everyone hated it. Like, why are we in the north suffering for you in the south? It was the pigs. Portugal, Italy, Greece, Greece and Spain. Remember it now? The pigs.

[Adam Curry]

I remember the pigs.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, the pigs. And so the IMF swooped in, you know, with, I want to say, Goldman Sachs, probably a couple of other big banks, and they said, all right, ruined the place. They ruined it and gave them austerity. So Varoufakis has a bone to pick and he is explaining why the European Union is cooked toast and will not work and is bound to fail. Europe made a grievous error in 1992 by creating a federal money. The idea was to create a monetary federation and then on top of that, build a political union. But there was a Cambridge economist, Nicholas Calder, who in 1970, the New Statesman, warned Europeans against doing this. He said, if you make the mistake of creating a monetary union as a first stepping stone towards a political union, you will fail, because the monetary union will create an almighty economic crisis that will poison the well of any further consolidation, and then it will be impossible to consolidate. We had a chance with the euro crisis to create a political union that goes along with the monetary union. We failed. We failed dismally. Instead, we created new forms of rolling over the debts and consolidating that which cannot be consolidated. Then we had the pandemic, which was another great opportunity. The result of these failures and this delay is a complete political fragmentation. You know, 10 years ago, 15 years ago, there was Angela Merkel. You know, she was my greater political opponent. I had many clashes with her. But at least she had the political capital to bring Europe together by delaying all this time spending 15 years not investing at all, zero net investment in European Union. As a result of the mishandling of the euro, of the inevitable euro crisis, Germany is deindustrializing. So now Germany is renationalizing its policies, is the single market is finished. So the Brexit discussion is gone because there is not even a single market. Only on paper, there is a single market now. So this fragmentation means that you can see Trump appears. Trump loathes the European Union. He hates the European Union much more than he hates China for reasons of his own. And what is Europe doing? They are running around like headless chickens. They are putting forward a proposal of his military Keynesianism, which is neither necessary nor feasible. Europe does not have the capacity to create a military industrial complex. It will never have the capacity. If you want, we can discuss why. So this is why I'm saying with pain in my heart that Europe is simply slipping into irrelevance. Yeah, I think he's right.

[Adam Curry]

Well, you gotta let that go longer.

[John C. Dvorak]

You liked it, huh?

[Adam Curry]

Huh? Yeah. Yeah. I would like to hear his conversation about why they can't create a military industrial complex.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, they don't have power anymore in Germany to even make steel.

[Adam Curry]

You mean. You mean literal electricity? Yeah, like you say, power, yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

Actual electricity is off the table. I still see those videos of them imploding their nuclear plants. Dopes and they're doubling, they're doubling down. You know, what did I have here? I got a note here. Amsterdam. Amsterdam. Now, they do have a nutjob mayor, but Amsterdam is banning advertising of fossil fuels and meat. So you may not long. You may no longer advertise air travel, cruises, combustion, combustion vehicles, McDonald's because they can't show a hamburger. Yep, yep. And this is.

[Adam Curry]

How do people elect people like this?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, what happens is, you know, they. It's just like the bigger Parliament. They have to put together a coalition. So they have. The mayor is from Groon Links, which is Green Left. I've never never heard a better description for a party ever. The Green Lefties and the Party for Animals parte for deer. So they have, you know, they have to get something.

[Adam Curry]

So basically the Environmentalist plus PETA.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, pretty much, yeah. Environmentalist plus PETA, yeah. So they're banning that. Yeah, It's a mess.

[Adam Curry]

That brings me to a clip that I wonder. I don't know if this is legit. I can't document it, but I'm going to have to start. As you recall, five years ago we used to do Prime Minister Question Time on as a regular issue on the show.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

And this comes from that, supposedly. I don't know if this is AI or not, but I believe it to be real. And this is a Green member of the UK Parliament asking a question which. A very simple question that could be easily answered and it's probably reasonable. But Starmer goes off the deep end and condemns the Green Party instead of answering the question with any real foundation. But try playing it.

[News Reporter]

For decades, our rivers, lakes and seas have paid the price of a failing system. So the Water White Paper is a welcome first step in beginning to set things right.

[John C. Dvorak]

What is she talking about here? Is hard to get.

[Adam Curry]

She's talking about water pollution based on farming practices which contribute to rivers and streams being polluted by, you know, chemicals.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's helpful.

[News Reporter]

For decades, our rivers, lakes and seas have paid the price of a failing system. So the Water White Paper is a welcome first step in beginning to set things right. But there's a glaring gap. Agricultural pollution contributes 40% of the pollution in our waterways, but merits only one single page in this white paper. Can the PM tell me why on earth this is the case and when he will start working with farmers to support river friendly farming practices and treat.

[John C. Dvorak]

Agricultural pollution as seriously as sewage pollution? We inherited a real mess on water and we're taking the most effective and far reaching measures to deal with it. But I have to say, as someone who stood to lead her party, I wonder what she makes of how her leader is responsible, responding to this global uncertainty. Because what he's saying is, this is the time. This is the moment to withdraw from NATO. This is the time to kick the US out of our military bases. This is the time to negotiate. Hear this.

[Adam Curry]

With Putin.

[John C. Dvorak]

To give up our nuclear deterrent. I'm sure Putin be very quick on the line for that one. It's as reckless and irresponsible as their plan to legalize heroin and crack cocaine. That's the Green Party now.

[Adam Curry]

High on drugs, soft on Putin.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow. What a moron. There's no. There's no reason for him to do that.

[Adam Curry]

No.

[John C. Dvorak]

I wonder what the context was if they were talking about Putin.

[Adam Curry]

I'm gonna have to start watching PMQT again.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm glad you brought up British Parliament, because I also have a clip from British Parliament. This is Lord Young and he is part of the Free Speech Union. So, you know, whenever he talks, no one's there, which is kind of funny. Think about it.

[Adam Curry]

That's typical. Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

And there's a. There's a law that he and his Free Speech Union take exception to. My lords, I declare my interest as the director of the Free Speech Union and I congratulate the four new members on their excellent speeches. I want to draw your lordship's house attention to just one section of the Employment Rights act and its impact on the hospitality sector, namely Section 21, which extends the liability of employers for the harassment of their employees to third parties. From October of this year, employers will have a duty to protect their workers from third parties. I should make clear that we're not talking about third party sexual harassment, which they were already liable for, but third party non sexual harassment. And what does that mean for the hospitality sector? It means employers will have to take all reasonable steps. Those are the words in the act to protect their employees from harassment by customers. That might not sound too onerous until you factor in that harassment includes indirect harassment, which has been defined by the Employment Tribunal as including overheard conversations, remarks, comments, jokes that an employee may find offensive or upsetting in virtue of their protected characteristics. And it's for that reason that the Free Speech Union has been been referring to section 21 as the banter ban. The banter ban. So if your customers.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, my God. If I. Did I hear what I heard?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, you did. You heard what you heard.

[Adam Curry]

So if, I mean, in other words, they want to ban people from mumbling.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. Or if You. If you make a little joke and they're. And the staff is offended by your joke, and they call that the banter. I think they should call. Call this the noodle boy offense. Ban.

[Adam Curry]

Noodle boy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Also known as New Bob. I mean, this is. This is how you destroy a country. But wait, we have our own little problems here at home. My. My friend sent me this this morning from the Harvard Th. Chans. What was that?

[Adam Curry]

It was a squeak.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

You got a mouse in your pocket.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is from.

[Adam Curry]

There he goes.

[John C. Dvorak]

The Harvard Th. Chan School of Public Health. That Chan is, I think, is Zuckerberg's wife, isn't it? Didn't they put the money in?

[Adam Curry]

Oh, that could be. Yeah, I think so. Pretty sure. Yep. Yep.

[John C. Dvorak]

Thanks to research led by Harvard Th. Chan School of Public Health, the American Psychiatric association, apa, that's added a new term, a new mental disorder, into their Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, also known as dsm. This is the handbook for classifying and diagnosing mental health conditions used by mental health care providers around the country. Are you ready for it? No. The new. I'll wait until you're ready.

[Adam Curry]

I'm ready.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right. So this is the new condition. Mental health condition, moral injury. And I will give you the description of moral injury. It is psychological harm incurred from committing, witnessing, or being subject to actions that violates one's moral code that is now a mental condition. Moral injury.

[Adam Curry]

Well, that explains a lot.

[John C. Dvorak]

And you can now get meds for it, I guess.

[Adam Curry]

Well, of course.

[John C. Dvorak]

Moral injury. The DSM should be outlawed. That thing is just a license to give people SSR drugs. Drugs? Yeah. SSR's for everything. Nuts. Hey, you're going to love this. Your theory about the emergency that prompted the return of our astronauts from the International Space Station. Would you like to reiterate your theory?

[Adam Curry]

Yes. There was a pregnancy caused in space, and they couldn't take a chance on. They couldn't give birth in space case because there's no, you know, the right doctors aren't up there or anything. They had to shut, you know, they're not supposed to have sex, as far as I know, and get pregnant up there. But she did, this woman. That's why she was part of the team. And they. They hustled them all back to the United States quietly to take care of the problem. So let her have a baby.

[John C. Dvorak]

So we have not been told who had the medical emergency, because, of course, we wouldn't want to violate him. HIPAA laws.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, no. And by the way, there's three males and one female that came back.

[John C. Dvorak]

So here are two NASA astronauts who are talking about this incident, and they really are so happy that the equipment on board was there to diagnose the issue and get these astronauts home quickly. But I think you'll be interested in what they say. The ultrasound technology has gotten better on planet Earth, and we've taken that into space. And having a portable ultrasound machine helped.

[Adam Curry]

Us in this situation.

[John C. Dvorak]

We were able to take a look at things that we had and didn't have. So when we had this emergency, the ultrasound machine came in super handy. So I'd recommend a portable ultrasound machine.

[Adam Curry]

In the future for sure, for all space flights.

[News Reporter]

It really helped NASA made all the right decisions, in my opinion. This is a good, really, really excellent example of risk analysis and decision making, and I'm very proud of the decision they made.

[John C. Dvorak]

But sometimes things happen and surprises happen, and the team was ready. And that was, like Zena said, preparation was super important. An ultrasound machine.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Huh.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, being a future grandfather, I love the ultrasound pictures and the videos and the heartbeat and everything. And that's ultrasonic technology. And they were. They. It was the right gear to have on board. John, I think you have nailed it, my friend.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, I'm. I'm absolutely convinced I nailed it. But. But there could be someone with a tumor. Ultrasound's good for that, too. It finds, you know, so there's others. They can weasel up. But the way the woman in that particular clip you played, the way that woman, the female, was so gleeful.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

They did the right thing. They got her home to have her baby is all. She didn't see say, but she might as well have said it to me just to confer the. The. Or to confirm. Not confirm, but confirm. The speculation.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's so good. I just. I just love it. I mean, but why aren't they.

[Adam Curry]

Well, why don't they just tell us that?

[John C. Dvorak]

Because, you know, then we have this whole other, you know, then it's a workspace.

[Adam Curry]

Then you have the how do you space problem.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, not a problem, but the questions, because we all want to know.

[Adam Curry]

Then it becomes a topic of discussion that nobody wants to have. Were they floating around at the time or. She, you know, what. How do you do it? You know, is it. You know, were they spinning maybe in. In the void? I mean, you just. Just too many. It just. It brings up too many. They don't want it at a press conference. They don't want Carolyn Levitt trying to explain it. Well, the way I Understand it.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right, I've got one more for you. This is, this is one of my personal gripes and of course people are sending me clips now about it. This is Olive Aeronautics model A. Part electric road car, part flying car. It's currently in testing and closely watched by the faa. Under its airworthiness certificate, ALF can land on any solution, surface anywhere and take off from any surface anywhere. There does not need to be built any kind of heliports, vertiports or anything like that. Olive co founder Jim Duchovny says he has 3,500 pre orders at 300,000 a pop and production is underway. But some experts say flying cars are not ready for public roadways and skies due to regulations and new product headwinds. Currently, the FAA would require a pilot's license, which is expensive and time consuming. Flying cars need to be light, but also meet road worthiness testing standards. Some believe there are better technologies, namely air taxis, which are like smaller helicopters and they cost roughly the same as the Olaf model A. The company acknowledges air taxis are a competitor, but says his main rivals are leading EV companies. We're trying to make exactly same or similar car as Tesla. Lucid and revision, but with the capability of vertically taking off and flying. NASA and the FAA are working on the framework of advanced air mobility. The concepts being evaluated include the creation of corridors for air taxis, drones and commercial flights, noise travel times, infrastructure, future airspace, and of course, safety. The company though is still bullish on his startup company. I do think we'll actually have a majority of the cars with some kind of a flying capabilities. Okay. So I just, I just, I heard.

[Adam Curry]

The number 33 in there.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh yeah. So a couple things about this because I've been following this one very closely. This is Aleph A L E f dot arrow A E R O. I would like you to take a look at this because you'll recognize the car. This is basically a go kart with bicycle wheels that they've put a.

[Adam Curry]

Give me a spelling again.

[John C. Dvorak]

A L E f dot arrow A E R O. When you see it, you go, oh yeah, this thing. And they have this constant video of this. It's almost like a. It's like, it's like a really rickety thing with these bicycle tires and it lifts off and it jumps over a Tesla cyber truck and then lands like this is. This is the technology that they have. So there's no person in it that it's a fiberglass body around this, a very small frame with these little teeny weeny tires. I don't even know if you can get over 40 miles an hour with it on the road. In fact, they never show it driving. They only show it doing this little, little hop. A couple things. This company keeps touting that they have an airworthiness certificate. Yeah. They are allowed to test at an airfield that's. It's not like, oh, it's airworthy. You can go and fly it wherever you want. No, that's, it's just, it's a lie.

[Adam Curry]

The other thing, like a turd.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, it is a turd. The other thing is they always keep saying you got three and a half thousand people already pre ordered. If you look at the website, you.

[Adam Curry]

Can order 33 was the number.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think it's the most 3,300. You can buy a place in line for 150 bucks. So it's not like people put down $300,000. This is a scam operation with a flying turd that you can't even sit in. And they keep, keep bringing this guy up.

[Adam Curry]

I don't know why they keep calling the first flying car. There's been so many of these things.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. It's crazy. Now I am kind of bullish on this new battery technology which we talked about, the Donut Lab. I don't know if you had a chance to look at it.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I looked into it.

[John C. Dvorak]

So I did get one of our engineers who was looked into it. He says I'll just read his note. He says, I used to work in a PC board factory in Santa Clara back in 82, 83. I'm an army radio maintenance technician. Also work for Sony building TV studios. He says the way this would work and the way he understands it, you use the same techniques as making ice cream chips. Placing billions of tiny capacitors in a small space. Due to their size and chemical properties, they would act like a mix between a battery and a super capacitor, which you mentioned. They would be quite easy to produce and would pack a lot of energy into a small package. What caught my eye was their test rig. In my mind, the whole battery would melt, including the cables and connectors. If that much amperage was fed in, there's always resistance at transfer turns into heat. The BYD engineer, it's all from his website, said you cannot have all those properties in the battery at the same time. You always have to drop out on one of them. It's physics. For me it's the heat. But with a clever battery management system, it might work. Think of the PCM style LED Drivers. I wonder what JCD has to say about this.

[Adam Curry]

Well, there's no capacity of any sort because they make a point of saying it's a battery, not a hybrid capacitor battery or anything like that. So that's bull crap. And it turns out that there's a company out of Finland called Nordic Nano.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

And they developed a technology which they sold to these guys which is a battery technology that uses a lot of very high end graph feed and nanotubes and all sorts of titanium oxide.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. To.

[Adam Curry]

To coat the nanotubes. And it does apparently can produce all these numbers and may or may not be manufacturable. I think the manufacturability is. Is the issue here. But there's some possibility that all this is true.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think as I read an interview with those with the Finn guy as well. And they basically said the one thing the Fin don't do is lie. So they don't.

[Adam Curry]

No, they drink a lot. I'm gonna show my support by donating to no Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. Yes, we do have a few more people to thank for the show. 13, 18, 37 I believe is the number.

[John C. Dvorak]

It is.

[Adam Curry]

And Adam will read the $50 and up right to the max with not that many of them. And. And we'll go from there.

[John C. Dvorak]

Terry Wentz. Thank you, Terry. $130 from Langley, Washington, William Durkin. Greenville, South Carolina with 123.45. We love it when you do stuff like that. Dakota Walker, 100 1993. And that is a belated birthday donation. So we'll have that on the list. Hey, coming in from Japan, Mayumi Akiyama with kanji characters. So I can't tell where I know where that is. I mean, come on. Hold on.

[Adam Curry]

Maybe.

[John C. Dvorak]

Come on, Jay. I mean you could have.

[Adam Curry]

At least J. Jay should be able to translate that.

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean, look, I'm. Here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to literally copy and paste that. Hold on. I'm going to copy and paste that into my robot. We just call it robots here. The no Agenda Show. So copy, copy, paste that. Okay, let copy and paste the other one because the kanji comes through fine, which is. Okay, so robot translate. All right. While it's doing that, I will continue reading.

[Adam Curry]

Wait, what? It took that long? It's already taking time.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh yeah, it's burning cycles. I'm getting. Oh, here it is. Here it is. Tatorishi City. Tatori City in Tatori Prefecture.

[Adam Curry]

Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

Which is in the Chugoku region of Honshu.

[Adam Curry]

It's the coast Honshu Province.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's the coast on the of the Sea of Japan, which is, as we know, a protectorate of Sir Mark and De Master.

[Adam Curry]

Thank you.

[John C. Dvorak]

Mayumi McDermott, Connor Estero, Florida. 100. Oh, by the way, Myumi is also a hundred dollars. Great show, says McDermott. Keep up the good work. Kenneth Cyr, Sire, Shady Shores, Texas. 99. Adrian Grabe, Austin, Texas. Which we can't drive to right now because we've been told it's dangerous on 290. 88. 88. And there's Sir Kevin McLaughlin, the Archduna of Luke of Luna. Luke of Luna. He is the lover of America and Boobs in Concord, North Carolina. And he says donation for Boobs. God bless America and Boobs. Sir deep thought, Lexington, Minnesota. Also a boob donation. 08008 Boobs for my birthday started my 46th trip around the sun on show day, January 25th. Yes. Jason Shepherd, Trinidad, Colorado 7680 Douglas Mook in Cochranton, Pennsylvania. 75. Sir Wayne Larcombe in Sunnybanks Hills. That's in Queensland, Australia. Add me to the birthday list for My birthday on January 26. I've been notating and listening since 2011. Keep up the great work. Chad Hewitt, Folsom, California. Where the jail is $66.40. Matthew Ellard, Weatherford, Texas. Small boob, 6006 Surprise night of astonishment, Yukon, Oklahoma 5444 Diana Grilly, Camden Junction, Junction City, Ohio. $51.50. Nelson, Naf. I wonder if it's Naf. Odivelas. Oh, Portugal just turned 51 on Saturday, January 24. Nelson from Odive, Portugal. Alex Delgado, Aptos, California. These are the 50s. He sends us $50. George Wooshit from Lavernia, Texas. 50. Danielle Grossenbacher in Mesa, Arizona. 50. Darren Schwartzenstrueber, Schwartz Andruber. These are cool names. We got the Groschenbacher and the Schwartzen. Druber, Simpsonville, South Carolina. First time donating.

[Adam Curry]

You've been de douched.

[John C. Dvorak]

Waiting for the ice storm to arrive. Stay safe. Priscilla Rubio, nor, California, 50. And finally, Ari Kuna in Woodstock, Georgia. $50. We thank these producers and of course our executive and associate executive producers who we mentioned earlier. And they all get their titles and not under 50. We do not mention them because that is for reasons of anonymity. Please go to NoaGendaDonations.com and make a donation. Support the show. It's VALU value for value, any amount, any frequency for the recurring donations. We appreciate it all. Thank you for supporting the best podcast in the universe. Okay, we have a long list. Today, Dakota Walker celebrated on the 13th David Kect A happy birthday to Tammy Mack, 40 something on January 23rd. Bill Durkin has a couple of birthdays wishes his sister Beth White, she celebrated on the 24th. His nephew Patrick White also on the 24th. And what do you know, Bill himself celebrated on the 24th. Bell. Nelson Knapp turned 51 yesterday as well, sir. Deep Thought turns 46 today. Mom and dad wish Jacqueline Wednesday my Jacqueline Wednesday Myers. There we go. She'll be turning two years old today. Happy birthday birthday from your uncle Adam and uncle John. Jason. Happy birthday to Brittany Miller celebrating their seventh anniversary of her 39th birthday today. And finally, Sir Wayne Larcombe celebrates his birthday tomorrow on January 26th. Happy birthday from everybody here at the Bass Podcast. In the universe we have no title changes, knights, dames, nothing at all.

[Adam Curry]

Nothing. By the way, that birthday list is very long, which means a lot of people have sex in mid April.

[John C. Dvorak]

In space usually.

[Adam Curry]

Well, in space, if they can, in mid April, which is around Easter. And that's. I guess it's interesting that there's so many. I mean, today's a record breaker. 10 people.

[John C. Dvorak]

I always try to have sex at least in April as well. There you go. It's a low T. I don't know.

[Adam Curry]

Anybody named April, so I can't do that. Meetups.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. Just like it's always like a party. The no agenda meetups. And of course the meetups take place worldwide. You definitely want to go to at least one of these in your lifetime. I guarantee you once you've gone to one, you will want to go to more, probably with the same group. We do have a cancellation. Sunday was supposed to be the indie na shill shiny new year meet up at 3 o'. Clock. Is that today? Yes, that has been canceled due to weather, obviously. Indy, that would have meant the Blind Owl Brewery. They hope to reorganize it for Thursday. So keep checking no agenda meetups.com to find out if that happens or not. On Thursday itself. The North Georgia Quarterly Meetup takes place at 6 o' clock at Cherry Street Brewing in Alpharetta, Georgia. And Sir Bob will be organizing that. And we did have that Sao Paulo, Brazil meetup. And we got a meetup report in the morning. Adam and John is Augusto, the Britalian, based in Berlin now, here in Sao Paulo, my hometown. And I met this gentleman, American gentleman living here in Sao Paulo. I'm assuming his gender is a he. And we had interesting open conversations about many topics. And now about the pronunciation of two special words in Portuguese. One is cachasa and the other ones is the state. It's Bahia. And that's it, Gentlemen, thank you for your courage. And four more years. Sounds like it was a small meetup, but two people makes a meetup, and we love getting those meetup reports. So we're expecting some from the following meetups, which will take place on the 31st. Oakland, California, and Wilmington, California. Two in Cali then, and in February. Keyport, New Jersey, on the 1st, Indianapolis, Indiana, on the 1st as well Mount Laurel, New Jersey, on the 8th, Eagle, Idaho on the 14th, Camp Hill, Pennsylvania on the 15th, Charlotte, North Carolina on the 19th, and Colleyville, Texas, on February 21st. I'm sure more will pop up. Go to noagendameetups.com you can find all of the meetups that are listed. We go all the way through May right now. And if you can't find one near you, here's an idea. Start one yourself. People will come. Come, we'll announce it. Send us a meetup report. It's a lot of fun for the family and for the kids. No agenda. Meetups.com. always fun, always a party. Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.

[Adam Curry]

You.

[John C. Dvorak]

Want to be where you won't be triggered or hell, lame. You want to be where everybody feels the same. That's right, everybody. It's a party. We've got John's tip of the day coming up. I'm a little bit bummed because Tina wasn't able to go to Costco to get your last tip of the day, which sounded like a good el cheapo wine. Right up my alley.

[Adam Curry]

It was really good, actually.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm sure it is. Now. Before we do anything, though, we have to choose our end of show ISO, which we do in this segment of the show. I think I've come over with some good ones for today.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

So here we go.

[News Reporter]

For four more years and possibly far beyond.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's Heather.

[Adam Curry]

That's done by your voice.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's Heather. That's Heather from the Dark Horse podcast. You know, Heather for four more years.

[News Reporter]

And possibly far beyond.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, yeah, here's another one. This isn't easy to do. Okay. I think that's also a candidate. And this one. This may just take the cake. They'll never be able to replace these guys with AI.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, I'm going to Go into abeyance mode and push mine off. Really give you that last one.

[John C. Dvorak]

Really? Wow. They'll never be able to replace these guys with A.I. there it is.

[Adam Curry]

And before we even by the way.

[John C. Dvorak]

It'S time for John sip of the the day. And sometimes Adam. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

After doing all these expense. Even though I did that I tried to back it off with the cheap wine. That's a high amazingly good product. I should get some more wine. Some other inexpensive items. Free things. I had to go. I trying to go down scale after being condemned for the thousand dollar television set.

[John C. Dvorak]

We'll never live that one down, will we?

[Adam Curry]

Well, you know, it's still a great product.

[John C. Dvorak]

It is.

[Adam Curry]

What am I going to say it is? And people have to buy TV sets. So there you go.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

So let's go down to something that costs a couple of bucks. And this is one of. We have a number of people out there that help me with these tips and they suggest things. They suggested this. And this is. Is actually a pretty good little guy. A little product. This is the people should all have one of these sticks or. Or even a three pack of these. Of these Tide Oxy stain sticks. They're called Tide Stain Remover. For clothes go to Pen Spot Remover. For clothes, travel and size. We have it $2.34 cents from Amazon and elsewhere.

[John C. Dvorak]

I concur with this tip because I'm known around here as Mr. Spot.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, Mr. Spot.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. I am always getting food on my clothes. I'm the guy that you know. Oh, I mean the spaghetti is. Oh man. What. So yes, Tina has these in massive quantities and they are quite good at remaining removing spots.

[Adam Curry]

So this is the Tide Stain Remover pen.

[John C. Dvorak]

Are these available in Europe, Australia and other places around the world?

[Adam Curry]

I think they're available most places. It's a very hot product. The Tide has done a pretty good job.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hot product everybody.

[Adam Curry]

You know, I got a. I had a meeting long ago. I think it's with Procter and Gambler. Whoever owns Tide, it's either Procter and Gamble or the other guys. And I got a long lecture about. I'll just mention it. A long lecture about detergents and toothpastes and all the rest of it from these guys. You know, they're company men.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And they went on and on about how the reason that you should only buy liquid detergent is because they made all the good. All the good powder detergent illegal because you had to have a certain phosphorus content in there to make it work. Well. And if you buy Mexican Detergent. You can get the good old fashioned powder detergent, but otherwise you can only get any cleaning power. It has to be liquid. And I've always made note of that. A little tidbit and some other stuff.

[John C. Dvorak]

They told me it's a hot product, everybody. And if it's hot product hot, it's probably owned by Blackrock. That's John's tip of the day. And sometimes Adam created by Dana Bernetti. All right, that will do it. Noagendafun.com tipoftheday.net End of show mixes. We've got some, some slop. We got MVP that.

[Adam Curry]

Can I make a comment on the end of show mixes? Yeah, because I've been wanting about these. This one voice that I keep hearing that does the Broadway tunes and I realize who it was. Who is it, who they're stealing from. It's, it's a voice that is kind of the way I describe it is it's kind of, kind of thin, but it's, but it's pleasant and always on tune. It's always keyed up properly and there's nothing wrong with it. It's Steve Lawrence of Steve Lawrence and Edie Gourmet mixed in with a little Mel Torme.

[John C. Dvorak]

And that's coming right up along with Deez laughs and a banger slap and slop. End of show mix. Also from NVP getmojams.com After the show live on the stream, we've got upbeat 66 salty crayon bringing you the pod. I mean the Value for Value music show. There you go. And we're coming to you here from Fredericksburg, Texas. Why the Texas Hill country in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry.

[Adam Curry]

And from northern Silicon Valley where we ain't got no frost, I'm John C. Dvorak.

[John C. Dvorak]

We'll be back on Thursday. Remember us noagendadonations.com until then, adios, mofos and such.

[Adam Curry]

Back in the days of the velvet.

[John C. Dvorak]

Rope, before the slogans and the loss of hope, he was the king of the cameo scene, the golden name on the TV screen. Donald would sit with Oprah on the velvet chair talking about Maga with a.

[Adam Curry]

Wink and a flare.

[John C. Dvorak]

And the Clintons laughed at his wedding feast. He was toast of the town, to say the least. Oh, it's a flip flop phenomenon. Can't you see?

[Adam Curry]

You from a Democrat darling to the gop.

[John C. Dvorak]

One day you're posing for the paparazzi lens, the next day you're losing all your Hollywood friends. The ink on the check was a Shade of blue but the tie turned red and the bridge burned to yeah, it's a flip flop phenomenon. The cameras are still rolling, but the audience has changed. Same man in the spotlight but the seating's rearranged. Trump is the president and they all are deranged. Before the results of an investigation into inappropriate hugging. Oh, my goodness.

[Adam Curry]

The place is falling apart.

[John C. Dvorak]

You got to get out of that place, man.

[Adam Curry]

Inappropriate hugging scares me.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, wait. What's going on with all these lies? What's going on with all these lies? I just want to multiply don't even.

[Adam Curry]

Know the reason why get paid and give it to the next guy oh.

[John C. Dvorak]

My, oh my, oh my, oh my Some people can't even spell oh, my Yours, your and your oh why can't.

[Adam Curry]

Even get the apostrophe right Adult kids.

[John C. Dvorak]

Don'T know how to write Kids listening to their parents fight Trauma, trauma, trauma Right.

[Adam Curry]

Incandescent bedroom light flickering all day and night slicker ring at 8ft high high.

[John C. Dvorak]

Signals going in my eyes Come on.

[Adam Curry]

Man, you ring slow Pick it up or I got to go don't pretend that you don't see the loads waiting there for you to fold yes, I'm.

[John C. Dvorak]

Getting old Yes, I want to be bold Yes, I got no hold this.

[Adam Curry]

Month is really, really cold. Don't give up on the future, man. Just stick to the written plan. We can do it, I know we can. At least you're not in our ran.

[John C. Dvorak]

But come on, man, don't you understand?

[Adam Curry]

Nothing's changed.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's the same old plan.

[Adam Curry]

Bombs away. And then let's plan.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, man, oh man.

[Adam Curry]

Make money, handle fist. I need that.

[John C. Dvorak]

You need this.

[Adam Curry]

Then you piss, then I piss.

[John C. Dvorak]

Then it becomes a pissing contest. Yes, I said it, no, I don't regret it. In the morning writing raps they telling me the song is stacked Ladies and gentlemen of the Noah gentleman to get monation. We are pleased to bring. Value.

[Adam Curry]

Foot value.

[John C. Dvorak]

Thank you for your service.

[Adam Curry]

Boots on the ground.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sam. Adios, mofo. Dvorak.org Na they'll never be able to replace these guys with AI.

[Adam Curry]

Oh my God, if I did. I heard what I heard. What am I? What, a chopped liver? You know, when I was a kid.

[John C. Dvorak]

They didn't have robots kill all humans.

[Adam Curry]

I'm watching dancing dogs.