1842 - "A Dog A Day"

Summary

No Agenda Show – Episode 1842: "A Dog A Day"

Hosts: Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak
Date: February 12, 2026
Podcast Theme: Media deconstruction with humor, skepticism, and critical analysis of current events, surveillance, privacy, politics, tech, and cultural phenomena.

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Overview

Episode 1842 of the No Agenda Show, "A Dog A Day," continues Adam Curry and John Dvorak’s trademark media deconstruction, dissecting surveillance technology controversies, the Nancy Guthrie case, the latest in U.S. politics, a much-criticized Super Bowl, election strategies, AI hype (and skepticism), trust in government, and the near-complete absence of mainstream coverage of sensitive topics like the Canadian trans shooter. The episode is peppered with witty banter, memorable rants, deep dives into the nuances of policy and technology, and a healthy dose of skepticism about both government and media narratives.

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Key Topics & Discussion Points

1. The Nancy Guthrie Surveillance Case & "Dog a Day" (00:58–07:26)

• Comparison with Hostage Scenarios: Adam and John open with a comparison between Nancy Guthrie's kidnapping and historic hostage crises, setting a skeptical, irreverent tone.
• Surveillance & Privacy Deconstruction
  • Ring/Nest Camera Data Retrieval: John notes that despite Guthrie not subscribing to Ring services, video was still retrieved by the FBI and Google. Adam asks: “So why bother having a subscription?” (01:30)
  • Privacy Concerns: Adam and John discuss the implications for surveillance, particularly with new AI features for finding dogs. The “Search Party for Dogs” Super Bowl ad is dissected for privacy holes and contradictory logic:
    • Dvorak: “If you say yes, your privacy’s not protected. That’s the point here.” (04:58)
    • Curry: “If you say yes, what privacy are we dealing with here?” (05:11)
  • American Attitudes: John jokes about privacy going out the window for dogs. “It’s a dog, ladies and gentlemen, it’s a dog.” (05:21)
  • Slippery Slope: They raise concerns that features for finding dogs could be used for humans—a “surveillance state” issue that's casually dismissed by companies (06:23–07:26).
• Cultural Callback: Adam: “If you can do it with dogs, well, how about humans?”

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Memorable Moment

• John: “We saw this coming down Mount Main Street a long time ago.” (07:08)
• Adam: "It's no big deal." (07:26) – (followed by John: “Well, I don’t know…”)

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2. Drone, Airspace & Media Spin: Texas “Cartel Drone” Incident (08:21–14:38)

• Texas Airspace Closure: Media coverage of a supposed "cartel drone" over El Paso is contrasted across outlets:
  • BBC: Dramatic tone, cartel fears—city officials blindsided, public panic (09:01)
  • NPR: Suggests the “drone” was actually a party balloon, not a cartel device; military wasted expensive laser on Mylar balloon (10:19)
• Satirical Real-life Antecdotes: Adam recalls floating garbage bags with helium, lampoons the military response.
• Skepticism about DoD Tech: Questions about whether the laser weapon does anything more than pop balloons.
• Publicity Stunt Theory: Adam speculates the event might be PR for laser systems (12:55).
• Drug Drone Hysteria: Hosts question if shooting drones full of fentanyl could spread drugs (“just asking questions!”—John)

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Notable Quote

• Dvorak: "I was reading that it’s a 20 kilowatt laser... The little laser pens are a watt. Imagine 20 kilowatts. I think that could do some damage. If it’s true." (14:05)

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3. Election, Demographics, & Outrage Management (21:37–29:48)

• Super Bowl Cultural Analysis & Political Messaging:
  • Super Bowl Recap: Adam reviews the game (boring), the “gruesome” commercials, and spectacle aspects (21:37).
  • Political Messaging via Entertainment: John notes a shift—increased Spanish-language presence, appealing to Latin American voters ahead of the midterms.
• Election Strategy & Demographics: Analysis that Democrats have shifted focus from Black to Latinx voters following BLM's perceived lack of results (23:17–25:27).
• Disinformation & Outrage Cycles: In-depth breakdown of “The Lion King meme” scandal that embroiled Trump, pointing out how media fixates on 2-second “racist” video and ignores substantive claims about voting machines (32:33–36:51).
  • Adam: “None of the news outlets actually discussed it, all they said, ‘that was just Trump claiming that the election was stolen.’ No, it was forensic evidence.” (36:01)

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4. AI Hype, Tech Ethics, and Changing Job Markets (39:04–55:10)

• AI Email Doxing: Adam shares AI can now find public email addresses, sometimes more easily than Google ever could.
• AI Model Training: John and Adam agree AI’s primary leap has been in code writing, not creativity or research.
• Job Disruption & Education:
  • Computer Science Degree Bust: UC system sees fewer enrollments—entry tech jobs now often automated by AI (44:17–46:27).
  • Host Recommendations: John urges listeners to “understand systems” not just learn to code; predicts productivity-enhancers, not full job replacement.
• Big Tech & Decentralization: Adam predicts data center glut; John anticipates a crash or consolidation similar to the dot-com/“fiber-to-dark-fiber” era.
• Endgame Skepticism:
  • Dvorak: "I'm trying to eliminate myself here." (51:15)
  • Both agree AI as productivity tool is huge, but will not (yet) wholly replace human strategizing.

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Notable Quote

• Curry: “If you're going to ignore the tools, yeah, you're going to be out of a job.” (52:59)

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5. Media Manipulation, Trust Crisis, & Economic Perceptions (61:02–67:18)

• Doom Cycles & Economy: The hosts make predictions on economic manipulation tied to politics (“crash after the midterms,” Dems will take the blame).
• NPR & Affordability: Discussion of NPR’s framing of the economy and inflation—hosts note inflation is cumulative, prices rarely go down (67:19).
• Deflation Myth: Adam: “If you have a deflation economy...everything collapses. So you're just stuck with the situation the way it is and bitching and moaning about it doesn't help.” (68:32)
• Inflation Messaging: John critiques Biden’s “I’ll bring prices down”—calls it “the biggest mistake in economic communications.”

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6. Epstein Fallout, Congressional Hearings & International Scandals (69:58–88:47)

• U.S. Congressional Hearings: In-depth discussion of Pam Bondi’s handling of the Epstein case, her combative style during hearings, and Democratic efforts to highlight slow-walking and coverups.
  • Dvorak Quote: “She’s not doing a good job.” (75:34)
  • Guest analyst: “You’d ask management to escort [Bondi] from the restaurant.” (75:58)
• Britain Scandal:
  • Prime Minister Keir Starmer, Peter Mandelson, and Epstein connections are under the spotlight in the UK; leaked documents reveal possible financial and info-sharing corruption tied to Epstein (80:00–88:47).
  • John: “Think about the people who were in on that gambit... if Epstein knew, he probably called all his buddies.”
• Total Trust Breakdown: Adam: “Complete loss of trust, which for me, it already happened…” (91:02)

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7. Health, COVID Legacy & Trans Issues (93:31–110:57)

• COVID Blowback: Surge in early-onset colorectal cancers, speculated as possible side effect of mass-lifestyle changes/COVID measures/vaccines (93:31).
• Woke Medicine/Lawsuit: Lawsuit over child transitioning, hosts insist damages are too low given lifetime consequences (108:06).
• Trans Shooter in Canada:
  • Story almost entirely absent in U.S. media, with hosts suggesting a deliberate suppression to avoid political fallout ("Don't give Trump any ideas. We're on a roll." – 111:46).
  • Detailed timeline of the suspect's transition and past mental health interventions; hosts blame parents, therapists, and the culture industry for pushing gender transitions on children.

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8. Tech, Energy & Environmental Policy (139:04–149:48)

• EPA Authority Rollback: Trump administration to revoke EPA authority to regulate CO2 as a pollutant; hosts recap history of climate narratives, mock linguistic games (“carbon” vs. “carbon dioxide”), and reflect on the entire arc from “climategate” to now (140:24–144:31).
• Skepticism of Green Narratives: French energy statistics cited to question renewables’ real impact; coal's revival as energy for AI/data centers (147:10).
• Language Manipulation: Hosts note new euphemisms like “commuting” instead of “following” in ICE-related reporting (149:25).

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9. Final Segments: Other Notables

• Listener Interaction: Several listener notes and donations read aloud, with extended discussion of value-for-value, meetups, and personal shoutouts (117:10–129:31).
• "Tips with JCD": John’s home gadget recommendation—LED remote-control “candles” for safe ambiance, plus a tongue-in-cheek “tip” to prank restaurants with the remote (180:30).
• End-of-show Mixes: Custom music and parodies, including an “I Got Ants” song in memory of a deceased producer.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• Surveillance State Concerns
  John: "So, if you say yes, your privacy’s not protected. That's the point here." (04:58)
• Wild Media Spin
  Adam: “You fire up a big laser… and pops a balloon.” (11:17)
• Election Outrage Cycle
  Adam: “It was forensic evidence. That was a lot more interesting than Trump claiming the elections weren’t stolen.” (36:01)
• AI & Jobs
  Dvorak: “Many software engineers report that they are now using AI assisted coding for the vast majority of their code production... Now their role shifted... to debugging, scrutinizing…” (49:39)
• Economic Reality Check
  Adam: "Inflation is cumulative. It doesn’t go down." (67:19)
• Epstein Fallout
  Analyst: “If you saw someone acting like [Bondi]... you’d probably ask management to escort them from the restaurant.” (75:58)
• Trust Collapse
  Adam: “No one trusts government anymore. Not even the nut jobs protesting in Minneapolis.” (88:47)
• Media Manipulation
  John: “Slowly driving away. Commuting. It’s all so bad.” (149:48)
• AI Reality
  John: “I'm trying to eliminate myself here.” (51:15)
• Tech and Life Advice
  John: “If you understand systems, then you can create something that could enhance your own productivity.” (46:27)

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Highlighted Segments & Timestamps

• Surveillance, Cameras, & Privacy: 00:58–07:26
• Drone Hysteria & Balloons: 08:21–14:38
• Elections, Outrage, & Media Memes: 32:33–36:51
• AI and White-collar Job Disruption: 39:04–55:10
• Economy & Inflation Explainer: 61:02–68:32
• Epstein, Congress, and UK Scandal: 69:58–88:47
• COVID-19, Heath Trends, and Trans Issues: 93:31–110:57
• Language Manipulation—Media Examples: 149:25–149:48

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Overall Tone & Style

Conversational, irreverent, and highly skeptical. Both hosts use satire, wordplay, and callbacks, critically analyzing news, political strategy, and tech hype with an eye for propaganda or semantic manipulation. Their analysis is always colored with humor, inside jokes, and direct engagement with their audience.

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For Further Listening

• Skip: Advertisements, intros, outros, technical donation segments.
• Focus: Dissections of surveillance tech, AI job market, media memes (especially “Lion King meme”), value-for-value segment for cultural insight.

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No Agenda continues to provide a unique, sometimes acerbic but always insightful look behind the media veil—deconstructing both the narratives we’re fed and the technologies that shape our world. This episode is particularly recommended for those interested in surveillance, privacy, AI hype, media bias, and the cycles of outrage in American politics.

Transcript

[Adam Curry]

We're better than you are. No, you suck. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's Thursday, February 12, 2026. This is your award winning Kibble Nation media assassination episode 1842.

[Adam Curry]

This is no Agenda Epstein.

[John C. Dvorak]

Elections, drones, outrage as we broadcast live from the heart of the Texas hill country here in FEMA region number six in the morning everybody.

[Adam Curry]

I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where we're wondering whether the Nancy Guthrie story is similar to the Iran SAG guy. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's crackpot and buzzkill in the morning.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, there's a comparison. I hadn't heard yet.

[Adam Curry]

They're on hostage crisis.

[John C. Dvorak]

This.

[Adam Curry]

Remember how long that went on?

[John C. Dvorak]

Didn't that go on for like 140 days?

[Adam Curry]

I think it was a year.

[John C. Dvorak]

It was a long time if I recall. I mean I was young, but yes, I recall. I recall.

[Adam Curry]

Well, nobody else cares.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, this was. There's a few interesting things about the Nancy Guthrie case. I don't know if you have any clips. I happen to have something here.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I was hoping not to discuss.

[John C. Dvorak]

This case since you brought it up. Well, the only thing that's really interesting is the ring camera. The ring camera is interesting because Google and the FBI were able to retrieve some video from backend systems where. Gosh, that was kind of odd because she did not have a subscription.

[Adam Curry]

Nancy Guthrie did not have a subscription.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is so. So they bring on.

[Adam Curry]

So they're stealing the material anyway. Subscription or no subscription.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, this is great.

[Adam Curry]

So why bother having a subscription?

[John C. Dvorak]

So they bring on this, the founder of. Of Ring, Jamie Siminoff. I guess they, they didn't they sell that. Did they sell it to.

[Adam Curry]

It was. It was an independent, I think it was independent and Google bottom.

[John C. Dvorak]

Google bottom. Well, listen to this.

[Adam Curry]

Nancy Guthrie did not have a subscription as you said with your product. If there's no subscription, you're saying there's no way to find the data. The FBI apparently worked with parent company in this Google to be able to get the data for people who have a Nest camera. Even if you're not subscribing, that does create the possibility. It sounds like that your data is still somewhere.

[John C. Dvorak]

System.

[Adam Curry]

I'm just curious if that surprises you.

[John C. Dvorak]

That they were able to find it in that. Well, I'm so surprised. Yeah, I wouldn't want to speculate.

[Adam Curry]

Maybe they're also.

[John C. Dvorak]

Maybe we're wrong and that she did have some sort of subscription.

[Adam Curry]

You know you're getting a lot of.

[John C. Dvorak]

In the sort of in these cases. I've found that a lot of the things that we're hearing are not always correct. And we find out later what's actually happening. I do know with Ring specifically, if you delete a recording or if you don't want a recording, you don't have a subscription. We do not have it stored. I know that because I, I built the systems with my team. But again, I'm happy to see here that for whatever the reason was that they were able to, with this camera, recover this because I do think this evidence is hopefully going to lead to a solution here to this really just tragic case. And we really don't know. Was it a Nest camera, a Ring camera? It's all so complicated. But the reason why it was interesting to me and clearly to the team at Fox News was because of the super bowl commercial.

[News Reporter]

And it raises all of this raises the issue of surveillance. And we want to get to rings. Recent ad that aired during the weekend's big game super bowl promoting the camera's new search party feature. The AI feature Search party for dogs. And it's getting some serious pushback over privacy concerns. But let's just let the viewers take a look.

[John C. Dvorak]

One post of a dog's photo in the Ring app starts outdoor cameras looking for a match. Search party from Ring uses AI to help families find lost dogs. Since launch, more than a dog a day has been reunited. Dog a day.

[Adam Curry]

Dog a day.

[News Reporter]

Jamie, were you surprised at the backlash because some of the reaction was surveillance state.

[John C. Dvorak]

Surveillance state. Yes, yes, yes.

[News Reporter]

Why are you yelling and were you surprised at that?

[John C. Dvorak]

I was surprised. I mean, I can understand the concern when you look, though, at how search party for dog works. It actually like is a completely built on privacy. So what we do is we look for a dog, someone post a dog, we find it, we say to, you know, Jamie, this dog that's lost in your neighborhood looks like this dog in front of your camera. Do you want to contact your neighbor? If you say no, your privacy is protected and you're a whore. Wait. If you say no, your privacy's protected. If you say yes, well, privacy's gone. I guess it's lost in your neighborhood. Looks like this dog in front of your camera. Do you want to contact your neighbor? If you say no, your privacy.

[Adam Curry]

Is your privacy protected by saying no? It does. It doesn't make any sense at all.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think you have to look at it the other way. If you say yes, your privacy's not protected. That's what he's saying. That's the point here. Camera. Do you want to contact your neighbor? If you say no, your privacy is protected. You're totally fine.

[Adam Curry]

If you say yes, what privacy are we dealing with here?

[John C. Dvorak]

Let him finish. We'll find out. If you say no, your privacy is protected. You're totally fine. If you say yes, then, like, I think most people would want to you help return the dog. And what we've seen in the response is definitely, this is. This is so American. Like, we're always, you know, liberty over. You want privacy. But if it's about a dog, I don't care. I mean, it's a dog, ladies and gentlemen, it's a dog. I've always said, you know, immigrants, all that stuff, but the minute you hit the dogs, that's why Trump won the election. They're eating the dogs. People went, no, no, no. This is the line. Americans, good cake.

[Adam Curry]

Good, good callback.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's the way it is. There is concern for people that I think that don't understand how the system works, which is. Which is a shame. But the people that do understand it, the people that. I literally got a text from a friend today. Listen to this. Didn't know we were doing this, and said he cried when he watched it because two years ago his dog was lost and they never found it, and they wish they had a system like this. So I do think what it's doing is so important. We're turning over a dog a day, and we're doing it. Privacy and trust, because that is very important. I love Dog a Day. Maybe Dog a Day.

[Adam Curry]

This is showtime. Right off the bat.

[John C. Dvorak]

Dog a Day. And of course, the only real question we want to know is, well, if you can do it with dogs, well, how about humans? So I think the question I would.

[News Reporter]

Ask as sort of the layman watching.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is, well, if you can do that for a dog, you could do it for a human, too. Right?

[Adam Curry]

And I think that's where people get nervous.

[John C. Dvorak]

How come you couldn't find Nancy Guthrie's mom? They'd say, I don't want to be.

[Adam Curry]

Surveilled by my neighbors if my neighbors don't like me or something. Is there. Is there a protection built into the system to make sure that what you're.

[John C. Dvorak]

Doing for dogs doesn't happen for a human? Yeah. So we. The number one post in our neighbor's app was lost dogs. And so we built this for lost dogs. The system works around dogs. It does not work for humans.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah, right.

[John C. Dvorak]

It wouldn't even work for that. Okay, I'm just going to do it. Surveillance state. Come on. These things are all connected. They're trolling your camera in real time. It is being recorded. The FBI knows. Everybody knows this. You know, we. We saw this coming down Mount Main Street a long time ago.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it's no big deal.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I don't know about it not being a big deal.

[Adam Curry]

It's not a big deal. And these either put these cameras up or you don't. Who cares? They're mostly a nuisance. Well, he's got one at the house. And this goes off all the time. Every time a bird flies by.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, you got to turn on pet detection.

[Adam Curry]

Deer comes up and bumps it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I know, I know. Yeah, it's just. It's just like.

[Adam Curry]

Well, before we go deep into the show, I do have two clips I want to get out of the way, which I think are the clips of the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Of the.

[Adam Curry]

Of the era.

[John C. Dvorak]

Of the. Of the era. Uh. Oh, I don't think we have a clip of the era jingle.

[Adam Curry]

No, we don't. And we're not gonna ever. All right, this is two reports. The same story reported two different ways. One a little more accurate, I'd say, than the other and funnier. But let's listen to this one. This is your Texas story. This is your Texas news where you were gone. You're missing out.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, gee, what did I miss?

[Adam Curry]

This is the drone. BBC. BBC.

[John C. Dvorak]

I did not miss this story.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, the punchline will be self explanatory. BBC.

[News Reporter]

The Trump administration has blamed a Mexican cartel drone incursion for the temporary closure of the airspace over El Paso International Airport in Texas. The measure was initially ordered for 10 days for special security reasons, but was lifted within hours. The Transportation secretary, Sean Duffy, said swift action was taken to disable the drone. Mexico's president, Claudia Sheinbaum, says authorities are investigating the incident. El Paso's mayor slammed the closure, saying it caused widespread disruption and confusion.

[John C. Dvorak]

I want to be very, very clear that this should have never happened. You cannot restrict airspace over a major city without coordinating with the city, the airport, the hospitals, the community leadership. That failure to communicate is unacceptable. Yes. Yes. When I read the story, I immediately sent a text message. This is before we found out what it was. I sent a text message to my buddy Maverick, who has. Who has a plane. His mom lives in El Paso. He goes to El Paso all the time. And I said, I don't know what's going on. I said, no, you already told my mom, start driving. Get out of El Paso. The cartels are coming.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, brother.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, that's what we all thought here.

[Adam Curry]

Well, here is the I don't know if this came before or after the BBC report, which makes it sound pretty impressive, but here is the NPR report, which is probably a little more accurate.

[John C. Dvorak]

The Trump administration says a US Military laser shot down what it said was a drug cartel drone near El Paso on the U. S. Mexico border. However, it now appears the target may have actually been a party balloon.

[Adam Curry]

NPR's Greg Myhre has the details. Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy said the military.

[John C. Dvorak]

In the Federal Aviation Administration acted swiftly.

[Adam Curry]

To address a cartel drone incursion.

[John C. Dvorak]

The threat has been neutralized. The FAA also announced the highly unusual step of closing El Paso's airspace for 10 days, then lifted the ban several hours later.

[News Reporter]

However, a U.S. official familiar with the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Matter but not authorized to speak publicly.

[News Reporter]

Gave NPR's Tom Bowman a different account.

[John C. Dvorak]

The source said the Pentagon recently authorized Customs and Border Protection to use the high energy lase. The agency then shot down a suspected drone, but it now appears the object was a Mylar party balloon that posed no threat. Yeah, this by the way, is not confirmed that it was a party balloon, but the story was, oh, come on, I'm sure it was.

[Adam Curry]

You fire up a big laser that must have cost like probably a grand to get to get up to power and pops, pops a balloon. Now I'm reminded of the fact that I used to send up garbage bags. Of course, I always have a helium tank around the house. And occasionally, just if there was an event or something at the house, I'd always, I'd say, hey kids, you want to see something funny? And so you fill up a big, big, you know, 35 gallon garbage bag with helium and you put a little tag at the bottom which will keep it nice and balanced and you just push it off the front porch and it really just doesn't go very high. It just kind of just wanders into this garb garbage bag floating over the San Francisco Bay. And you can just watch it for about an hour as it goes over. I just find it to be funny back.

[John C. Dvorak]

We didn't have TikTok, we didn't have Instagram. We had garbage bags with helium.

[Adam Curry]

But these, these Mylar balloons, which are, you can, I think you can pick them up on radar. I think it's possible that this, you know, is just picked up on radar and they made all these assumptions. That's the way I see it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, on the other hand, we are touting that we have lasers that can shoot drones out of the sky. That's kind of good pr. There are a lot of drone incursions on the border, apparently. I was just looking at the pilot forums, and this does happen quite a bit. But the whole thing is. It's what we do, man. Hey, you got a. We got directed energy weapons over here. Party kids. We'll take care of you.

[Adam Curry]

I mean, the whole thing may have been a publicity stunt just to promote the laser.

[John C. Dvorak]

That was what. That was my thought. I'm like, well, you know, that's kind of something. Just so you know, when you're flying your drones with drugs. Over. We do have lasers. I wonder what happens if you laser a drone with fentanyl. That may not be a good thing.

[Adam Curry]

What would go.

[John C. Dvorak]

Why? Because maybe the fentanyl just explodes and then wafts down over. Everybody.

[Adam Curry]

Foul. Fentanyl doesn't explode.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, but it could.

[Adam Curry]

I don't think there could be vaporized.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know. I'm just asking questions. You know, like all podcasters. I'm just asking questions.

[Adam Curry]

Likely.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm just asking questions. Well, no, I like to know.

[Adam Curry]

I'd like to see some of the results of some of these. I'd like to see some evidence that these lasers do much more than just disable the thing. That's what I'm guessing. It just disables and comes crashing down. I don't think it vaporizes. The drone popped a hole in the balloon. Big deal.

[John C. Dvorak]

I was reading that it's a 20 or 20 kilowatt laser, which seems like a lot. The little laser pens people are shooting at planes I think are a Watt, maybe. Imagine 20 kilowatts. I think that could do some damage. If it's true. If it's true. We don't know. We don't know. We.

[Adam Curry]

As usual, we needed. We have. We have. We do know.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, we have people who know. Yes, we do have people who know, but they may. This is my guy here. He's the guy that's in all that. I gotta talk to him.

[Adam Curry]

The last guy you talked to apparently wanted to fleece El Paso with his family because they were afraid of the incursions of the cartels coming to get everybody.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, but the. The guy from the Department of War who's in the. Who's in the Modern Warfare Department. He would know.

[Adam Curry]

I'll ask him.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'll shoot. Well, he can't tell me much, but I can say, blink your eyes.

[Adam Curry]

Well, have him guide you to some information that is useful.

[John C. Dvorak]

I will, I will. I'm actually mad I didn't think of that.

[Adam Curry]

Earlier, one of our producers suggests that Nancy Guthrie was killed by a illegal and the whole thing is a cover up because he has an exact example of what happened. This happened in University of Colorado, I think Boulder campus. He says this happened. Some student was killed by an illegal and they policed everything they could covered it up because they don't need any more Trump and Lake and Riley tributes. They don't need it, especially with the network TV stars.

[John C. Dvorak]

So hold on a second. That would kind of explain this bullcrap ring nest, whatever camera where you have this guy with that backpack and the throwaway gloves and he's dis, you know, a ring doorbell. You can rip that off. It's not hard, you can kick it and it's done. But no, he's going back.

[Adam Curry]

He's getting, sticking around.

[John C. Dvorak]

That could be the hoax right there.

[Adam Curry]

That could be the COVID Yeah, that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Could be the COVID up.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it makes sense to me.

[John C. Dvorak]

I did get a note from one of our producers on Thursday show. Could you and or John address two things? One, what is quote, residual data from backend systems? That would be bull crap is what I would say. Because that's what they're saying. Oh, we got video was residual and we have all these tech people.

[Adam Curry]

Residual data for. Yeah, it sounds like a Silicon Valley bull crap phrase.

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean, I'm sure that if you delete something. Yes, it's still recoverable from a drive.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, you can do that.

[John C. Dvorak]

And two, how can random folks monitor activity in a bitcoin wallet? Well, I will answer that. If, if you have the bitcoin wallet where it's being sent to, then you can monitor that wallet to see if anything came in. That's, that's the whole point of the open blockchain. And then you can follow it to see if it goes somewhere and ultimately winds up in an exchange. Then you can jump in as law enforcement. Unless of course, you use a mixer and a mixer can then mix it all up or you could put it on. There's ways you could get around it. But that's the whole point of bitcoin. It's transparent. I got a very short clip here which explains the term that we have been trying to eradicate from our brains. This was a surprising clip that I got this morning. The term. And this does not count, by the way.

[Adam Curry]

No, this doesn't count.

[John C. Dvorak]

It doesn't count. Do you even know where that comes from, by the way?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I did a whole thing on. Goes back to 900 actually. But it means by the side of it means by the road. And it was used. I don't have the sheet in front of me now because it's been a while, but it was used as directional.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, according to Maya Angelou from her book.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, well, here we go.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is why I like it from her book, I Know why the Caged Bird Sings. This is an excerpt from her audiobook. But later in the evening, I found that my violation lay in using the.

[Adam Curry]

Phrase by the way.

[John C. Dvorak]

Mama explained that Jesus was the way, the truth and the life. And anyone who says by the way is really saying by Jesus or by God, and the Lord's name would not be taken in vain in her house. When Bailey tried to interpret the words with white folks use by the way to mean while we're on the subject, Mama reminded us that white folks mouths were most in general, loose and their words were an abomination before Christ. So you, white man, are an abomination full of.

[Adam Curry]

There's no documentation for this whatsoever.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm like, oh, that's interesting.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, you can look it up. Yeah, Etymology is available.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm sure. I'll look it up on AI. AI will tell me. This is exactly what it is. Exactly. Man, there's so much. So the Super Bowl. I did not watch very much of the Super Bowl. I don't know.

[Adam Curry]

Why would you?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I was doing other things on Sunday.

[Adam Curry]

Well, not that, but why would you? You're not a football guy.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's the only football game I watch is the Super Bowl.

[Adam Curry]

Well, you can watch the highlights.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

It was. By the way, you didn't miss anything. It was one of the boringest super bowl games.

[John C. Dvorak]

You just said by the way. Oh, my God, yes, by his way. The way. The light. The light.

[Adam Curry]

That's what I'm talking about. By Jesus's way, you didn't miss anything. The game stunk.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I saw.

[Adam Curry]

It was boring. It got kind of interesting after the show that the Seattle team played dirty and knocked some guy while it was out of bounds. It was just kind of a dirty play by one of the Seattle players. And then all of a sudden, the other team scored, the Patriots scored. And then it might. Well, maybe they can win. This would be great because they could do a comeback. It'd be funny. No, no. They just crapped out and the team, you know, it was boring. And the commercials were not great. No, I mean, there was a. There was. Some of them were gruesome. There was a talking gobs of hair, which I thought was disgusting. There's a bunch of headless people in commercial where the heads were chopped off. Who needs that aggravation? And it was just. It was the whole thing. And then they had Green Day, you know, come out first. They bring it. This is the classic. They bring out all this. They got a bunch of all stars, a lot of 49ers, Joe Montana, Steve Young. They brought him out, put them on the stage with. While. While Green Day sang American Idiot, which I thought was the most insulting thing you could do, pretty much. And nobody picked up on that obviousity. And it was just annoying. Just found the whole thing to be these. This spectacle is laughable.

[John C. Dvorak]

Just looking at the overall picture of this. And it was all in Spanish.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, and the Spanish bad bunny thing, that poop. That got a lot of attention.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, to me. To me, that was all about the midterms. It seems very apparent right now that we have. That we. I think we clearly have the Democrat Party and their operatives working very hard on, you know, getting. They failed with the black vote. That was what BLM was all about. And they said, okay, black America, vote for us. They didn't get as many as they wanted because Trump got a lot. And then you notice that. But out on the protests, everywhere in the streets, there's pretty much no black people.

[Adam Curry]

None. I haven't seen one.

[John C. Dvorak]

Exactly. So, you know, I kind of started to figure this. Tie this all together. I thought. I had a. Thought I had a clip. Let me see if I have this here somewhere.

[Adam Curry]

Hmm.

[John C. Dvorak]

Somehow I'm missing something here. I wonder what happened to all my clips. I'm on Linux, by the way, so that should not. Should not surprise you. But all of this is a strategy, you know, because how many cities are really going nuts protesting? It's Minneapolis. We had Los Angeles for a little bit. It's all paid for. We know it's the same.

[Adam Curry]

Or Portland.

[John C. Dvorak]

In Portland, and there's some little bit in Chicago. But it's all paid for by the same entities that go into the same. The exact same people. The Black Lives Matter activists, now they're out there, but, you know, and you see all this horrible. You know, just people getting beat up. What you actually don't see much of is immigrants, illegal immigrants. You don't. You know, you always hear about, well, they dragged this person out of the car and they did this and they did that. And what you really only see is protesters, American citizen protesters who are getting rousted, getting shot. And that's the shock value of it. But we're not.

[Adam Curry]

That's the idea.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, that is the idea. And from what I understand, you know, with that recent election in, in Texas, which went to a Democrat, they consider that to be the reason to be that the Mexican American, the Latin American vote, is pulling away from Trump because they don't like what they see. And I think that that seems to me to be the entire strategy behind all of this, is let's. Because what do we have? We have 30% of America is Latinx, would you say?

[Adam Curry]

I don't know.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think it is. I think it's up there. So it seems like that's the plan. I mean, everything is about the midterms, obviously.

[Adam Curry]

Well, everything's about the midterms, and that probably is the plan, and that's what you do. And they're doing it no matter what anyone likes to think, and they shake their fist at it. They're doing an excellent job. I think Schumer's behind a lot of it, even though some of the cornball stuff. He's behind all that stuff, too. But I think they're doing an excellent job of swinging the voters toward the Democrats for the. Because they know there's two factors here. One, the Republicans don't come out to vote. The Republicans. That little area in Texas went 30. 30 points over for Trump.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, yes, exactly.

[Adam Curry]

It's a Trump district. Yes, but why didn't. You know. But it went to this Democrat doofus. Because the Republicans never come out. Oh, whatever. Who cares? I mean, the Republicans are basically lazy. They're a terrible party for this. They can't get jacked up about any. And unless all hell's breaking loose and then they'll come out, and so they, you know, so they're just pushing. They're going to. I think that the. Unless something changes or they pull a great stunt. I mean, Trump has it in him to do it. The Republicans are going to get wiped out in the. In the midterms.

[John C. Dvorak]

Here's. This is from. I forget which podcast this is. This is a guy from the Brennan Center. Isn't the Brennan Center. Is that literally John Brennan?

[Adam Curry]

I've never heard of the Brennan Center.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, the Brennan Center. That's been around. Let me see. Brennan. I think that was something set up by John Brennan, if I'm not mistaken. Brennan center for Justice. Yes. Nonprofit based in New York that works to defend democracy.

[Adam Curry]

Well, Brennan, the CIA guy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let me see what the. What Wikipedia says, if it's a. No. William J. Bren. Oh, former Supreme Court Justice Brennan, who I do not remember. It's basically another Democrat, another money Laundering operation, another money laundering operation. So they have this guy on this podcast, Mike Walden from the Brennan Center. And this was in December, before everything really kicked off in Minneapolis on January 31st.

[News Reporter]

A special election for.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is from Promethean Action. I know I should not be playing these clips, but this was actually quite good.

[News Reporter]

On January 31, a special election for a Texas state Senate seat turned into a warning shot. A district that Donald Trump carried by 17 points in 2024 saw the Republican candidate lose in what should have been an absolutely safe race. Now let's go back to that interview with the Brennan Center's Mike Waldman and look at when it was recorded. It was recorded back on December 10th. And here's what Walden said then about how Democrats could flip back voters who had voted for Trump in 2024.

[John C. Dvorak]

And in Texas in particular, for example, what they aimed to do was move.

[Adam Curry]

Some more Democratic voters out of Democratic district.

[John C. Dvorak]

In fact, to try to flip some.

[Adam Curry]

Of the Southern texts that have been.

[John C. Dvorak]

To many people surprised, moving toward the Republicans, even though they're heavily Hispanic. That kind of assumed patterns in that community would stay the same as they were in 2024 when Donald Trump won a very substantial share of the Latino vote all over the country. The ICE raids, the brutality and all these other things we've seen seem to pushing that community back toward, in a sense, more traditional partisan landing spot in the Democratic Party. There you go. That's the whole strategy. The whole strategy. Make it look horrible, make it look bad. People dying and they don't care. They don't care if white people die. This is completely about.

[Adam Curry]

No, they do care. They want more white people to die.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, there's that.

[Adam Curry]

And they do care.

[John C. Dvorak]

And then there was the outrage. And where was I? I think it was Friday, Friday or Saturday. And people like, oh, man, did you see the meme? Did you see the meme? Like, what meme are you talking about? Oh, you haven't seen the Lion King meme? What are you talk. No, I have not seen the meme and. Well, I'm going to. You're going to see it. This is the. The outrage started right away about the meme. You've likely seen the blowback from a racist video reposted by the President of the United States. Overnight, President Donald Trump on Truth Social posted the Obamas as apes. Now, the image appears at the end of a one minute video where Trump once again promotes false claims. The 2020 presidential election. So, so listen to what he says. Back it up a little bit. One minute video where Trump once again promotes false claims. Ok, so he's saying that, oh, this video. Trump once again promoting false claims. One minute video where Trump once again promotes false claims. The 2020 presidential election was rigged. It was just a two second clip that shows the Obama's heads edited onto the bodies of primates to the song the Lion Sleeps Tonight. Now we show you this image that's now been taken down by the White House by President Trump so that you can see what had so many people up in arms. So for context, here it is. This post has since been deleted. Okay, so you know CBS outrage. I go looking around for some more. Here's the other one. And listen to what they say of what the video was about.

[Adam Curry]

I am by the way, the least racist president you've had in a long time.

[John C. Dvorak]

President Trump's controversial late night video post on Thursday was about alleged voter fraud and just over was about alleged voter fraud. Fraud. A minute long.

[Adam Curry]

I like the beginning, I thought and just passed it on. And I guess probably nobody reviewed the end of it because what I saw.

[John C. Dvorak]

At the beginning was really, really strong. But the end of the video showed a depiction of the Obamas as apes. Press secretary Caroline Levitt initially defended the post and called it an Internet meme about the Lion King, adding, stop the fake outrage. The political fallout was swift with some members of the president's own party calling on him to take down the post and apologize. But the president says he didn't do anything wrong.

[Adam Curry]

We took it down as soon as we found out I didn't make a mistake.

[John C. Dvorak]

Senator Tim Scott of South Carolina, the lone black Republican in the US Senate, posted this praying it was fake because it's the most racist thing I've seen out of this White House. The president should remove it. CBS News has learned the president personally called Senator Scott and said the video was a staffer's mistake. The post was deleted after the president's call with Senator Scott. I think that it was an acknowledgement that this was definitely an error. I just don't believe the lower level.

[Adam Curry]

Staffer actually did it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Republican political strategist Malik Abdul. Donald Trump has to have a serious reset or he's going to risk not just what happens in the midterm.

[News Reporter]

Donald Trump is going to risk his.

[John C. Dvorak]

Legacy if he does not change course. So that's a black Republican strategist. Not now, obviously.

[Adam Curry]

We have to go at the end. That guy at the end was. Who is that guy? That sounded like. What's his name? The Brooks and Capehart guy. Capehart.

[John C. Dvorak]

I Don't think that was Capehart. No, it wasn't Capehart.

[Adam Curry]

No, no, just like him.

[John C. Dvorak]

No. I did the clip myself. So obviously I'm like, all right, here's what I think happened. A video was posted. They screen recorded it probably on TikTok or whatever, and then it scrolled up and then you got the. That little bit of the Obamas. Whether that is what was intentional or not is a secondary fact. But I'm like, well, what is the video that he posted? And so I go look and can't find it. Can't find it. I go on Gemini. I say, Gemini. This video was Gemini. This video was taken down. Go find it. It's probably on YouTube somewhere. It spends 15 minutes after disconnecting a server. No, can't find it. It was taken down. Does not exist. It's not available. Okay. So obviously when this video came out, whatever it was, apparently false claims by the president about the election. We had to immediately jump on this and be. And the distraction be the 2 seconds of the Obamas and as apes. Which is part of a longer video where all of these all Congress critters.

[Adam Curry]

And elites are all, you know, I saw this video.

[John C. Dvorak]

Which one? The Lion King video? Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Curry]

It had nothing to do with election fraud.

[John C. Dvorak]

No.

[Adam Curry]

It was just a rando video. When a stupid video. And at the end wasn't the Obama's at the end, it was Trump at the end walking through with a lion on a li. His head positioned on the lion and he walks through to the. Toward the screen at the end. That's how it ended.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is exactly what all the Republican podcasters are saying, is it what? It wasn't racist at all.

[Adam Curry]

So I didn't say that. I didn't say it wasn't racist. I said that what their description of it is wrong.

[John C. Dvorak]

Correct. But that's not what the video was. So I finally got a copy of the video that was the minute before the two seconds. And that was, I would say, something that needed to be covered up by outrage about the racist video. Michigan investigation team obtained forensic access to a DS200 tabulator, the machine that counts the votes. A Telet 4G wireless chip manufactured in Taiwan was discovered embedded into the motherboard. The voting machine tapes clearly indicate modem engagement and transmission of election data. Some of the anomalies that we noticed in the 2020 general elections, that five key states all stopped counting at a certain time in these key battleground states. These were all where the software, Dominion machines, ESNs machines were used. The Smartmatic the gym software. So when the vote stopped counting, and this has been noted in other countries as well, President Trump was significantly ahead. When reporting and counting resumed. There was a massive spike occurred that, that favored Joe Biden. That's the whole video with that little bit at the end. So it's forensic. It's a forensic investigation showing how the, the smartmatic software and the Dominion voting machine stopped counting all in five key districts, all at the same time. And then after they started recounting, then Biden just spiked above Trump. That was interesting.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, that was, that has been. That little, that information was floating around because the people that make the machines said they couldn't be accessed through the Internet and you couldn't do anything overseas. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[John C. Dvorak]

It had a G4 modem chip on it.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

So of course we had. And so now the question is, was that an intentional 2 second at the end? Was it really a mistake? Was it sabotage? Because for sure, none of the news outlets actually discussed it all they said, oh, that was just Trump. Trump claiming that the election was stolen. No, it was forensic evidence. That was a lot more interesting than Trump claiming the elections weren't stolen. So this is either the botch of the century, which I think it was probably, or someone within the White House, whoever is responsible for posting that sabotaged it. And I think the president.

[Adam Curry]

That's very reasonable.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I think super reasonable.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I think that's probably what happened.

[John C. Dvorak]

And if I remember, I thought on Friday the President was talking about, oh, something big coming. Something big coming. And this might have been the beginning of something big. Remember, they still have Maduro.

[Adam Curry]

Well, they also had, they had. They released the documents about the Fulton county thing. I thought I had a clip, but I guess I don't. They released the warrant, the details, and it has to do with some, I guess, some. I, I really think some whistleblower came up and said, hey, go, you guys have been looking at this and looking at that, but you're not looking in the right place for the right thing. Look at this.

[John C. Dvorak]

And, or maybe Maduro.

[Adam Curry]

Dan Maduro could have something. Yeah, I'm not, I'm not. We can't give up on Maduro being part of this.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I'm, I'm not giving up on him at all.

[Adam Curry]

So.

[John C. Dvorak]

But I mean, what a botch. What an incredible botch because they just get to dismiss it. And Google, for all I can tell, just wiped it. No residual data on their hard drives for that video. Gemini. And then I went to Grok Grok find this for me, it's been deleted. The post. The president took it down. I can't find it. You have to look around on X. Maybe you can find it. Huh? Huh?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it should be able to find it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I did eventually.

[Adam Curry]

This is a big shot. Oh, the big shot AI can't do this. No, it's going to do all these things for you, but it can't find a video. Give me a break.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's a good place.

[Adam Curry]

I've been using, you know, I've been using. You can use AI. You know, in the olden days. This is a little side bar. In the olden days, you could use Google to get people's email addresses.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah, I kind of remember that.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, you could. All you had to do is if you knew the last thing, you could pretty much work it around by doing the. If you knew what the domain was at something or other. You can get their email address. And then they stopped doing that. They. Because, oh, I don't know. Privacy. And so.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, no. Privacy. Oh, what about privacy?

[Adam Curry]

You can't give somebody an email address out. So I've been noticing you can get email addresses with the AI systems. Grok can give them, you can find them. And so can Perplexity and Anthropic. They can all find email addresses. Sometimes. Sometimes. Because I've noticed that you have to ask if you. This is a tip for people looking for people's email addresses. You have to. You have to specifically ask for its public email address, which is the email address. So you ask for the email address, but if you don't do it, couch it. Right. I know Perplexity came back with, they gave me the email address and I asked again for something else and said, you can't even come close to doing this because it's a privacy concern. I'm thinking, what is this thing? What are these things doing? I mean, they have all these, these crazy rules and regulations out of the blue. They have, you know, I guess there's guardrails that are coded in, but it's like. It's rando. But you can use. You can find people's email addresses, it seems to me.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I'm asking it now to find Adam Curry's public email address. So we'll see if it pops up. There was an interesting post that this guy wrote that's been going around. I don't know if you got it from Matt Schumer. Matt Schumer is apparently, I guess he has an AI company and he sold that and he has a couple he has investments in AI companies and he wrote this essay called Something Big Is Happening. Oh, look. Adam Curry's primary public email address, which he frequently mentions on the no Agenda podcast for listener feedback and producer communication is AdamCCurry.com for increase specifically related to merchandise or the no Agenda shop email is shopoagendashop.com. well, that's nice. They're promoting our merch. Didn't ask for it, but it's promoting the merchant and what this guy says. And I think this is probably true that all of the AI companies have focused their model training on coding. And I would have to say that that appears to be true because this whole system that I built within a day or two and fixed a bug that we had on the last show, I just built it by telling it what I wanted it to do and it did it. You have to know something about systems for sure, otherwise you probably won't be very successful. But the coding part, I think there's something there. I mean, it's too expensive for them to run it, but, man, it does some really cool things.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, everybody thinks so.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Now I had this. What is this from?

[Adam Curry]

But, you know, but then against. Then again, so what? That serves a small percentage of the community. What is the percentage of people that care to code, you know, dare to code. Care to code is not that many. Well, no, it couldn't find the video for you, but it could code some, some, you know, Linux, some programs for your Linux.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hold on a second. So just, just, just stay with me. I'm, I'm, I'm a little more cautious about. AI is no good now, because you definitely can create if you know what you're doing and what you really want and you understand systems. You have to understand systems. People have no idea how computers work. They don't understand systems. But if you understand the basics of systems, then you can create something that could enhance your own productivity. You can create a service. I mean, it's not like you. I don't think you're going to create a company overnight like, oh, look at this widget I made. I can charge money for this. Probably not. But when it comes to productivity, it's already done things for this show.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, tons. In fact, I wanted to compliment Darren o' Neill for doing the art for my last substack column on Toxoplasmosis and the, you know, the crazy liberal women and, and so I asked Darren to do some art, and he comes back with 18 stunning pieces.

[John C. Dvorak]

But beside art, John, we know it.

[Adam Curry]

Can be Done well, yeah, but art is an example. This is similar to coding. I mean, it's good at it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, it's good at it, but you.

[Adam Curry]

Have to be good as the guy telling you what to do because it's not everybody that can do that well.

[John C. Dvorak]

Again, you have to understand what the ultimate outcome is going to be. And Darren understands us, understands what we like, understands the show, understands the dynamics of album art, which is not something you hang on the wall. You can't blow it up. And then, oh, look at all these little details. He gets that. But that's, that's kind of my point, I think. Well, actually it came because I. There was this clip about UC Berkeley or the University of California system is seeing a drop in computer science enrollment. Listen to this.

[News Reporter]

It was once a degree to some of the highest paying jobs in the world, but now the University of California seeing a drop in enrollment for computer science. Let's go to bring in our business and tech reporter Scott Budman. Scott, I saw that this hasn't happened since the dot com bust. So is this a bad sign for tech?

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, it really could be, but things are a little bit different than they were back in 99 and 2000. And Audrey, as you can imagine, when all those stocks fell and the companies went out of business, it was really.

[News Reporter]

Tough for a young person to say.

[Adam Curry]

You know, what I want to do right now is get a job in.

[John C. Dvorak]

Tech and get a job in computer science. Since then though, as tech has gone up, a lot of the people have said, hey, CS is a great way to get in there. I'm going to learn to code, I'm going to get an entry level job. And it's only in the last couple of years we've seen those jobs decline. Why? Well, well, of course, artificial intelligence. A lot of students coming out of school with that coveted computer science degree.

[Adam Curry]

Only to find out that either the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Internship or the entry level job is being done by a bot. And that is discouraging a lot of people.

[Adam Curry]

And so for the first time in.

[John C. Dvorak]

Quite some time, all but one UC campus.

[Adam Curry]

We'll get to that in a minute.

[John C. Dvorak]

Has seen a decline in computer science degrees and majors. Students are just wary of and pay parents, frankly spending all that time and money and effort to come out and.

[Adam Curry]

Find out that your job, at least your entry level job is being done by a machine.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, well, so I don't know what they're teaching in computer science anymore, but I would say if you have a kid and you want this kid to be successful, and be able to utilize what now seems to be the main outside creating art and writing your resume, which anyone still. I have not seen AI do anything really spectacular with creative writing or just I just.

[Adam Curry]

Not yet.

[John C. Dvorak]

Not yet. It could come, you know, give your kid the old laptop, any computer you've got. Tell them to install Linux and use an AI chat thing to help them install it so they'll understand. Customize it. And then once you understand a system which I doubt is being taught in computer science anymore anymore, you know, like.

[Adam Curry]

It was supposed to be taught in high school.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, please, they're just showing you how to use the mouse. I don't. I mean, prove me wrong. Educators. It's not like we understand. You took apart. You took apart a whole IBM PC live on tv.

[Adam Curry]

Big deal.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, but you understand the controllers. The. Do people even understand a hard disk to this.

[Adam Curry]

There used to be one of our. One of our. Some. One of the talent at. Talent at Mi Vio who we both know well, famous. Some semi famous guy. I was over at his house and he was having some issues with his computer. And I'm, you know, like a fixer. And so I'm saying, well, let's. We gotta. Okay, well, first thing, we got to pull out this memory, the ram. He had to. He said, and he. You'd never. I've never seen a guy get so nervous because I'm pulling. I'm pulling the RAM out of his machine and it's like, am I gonna lose it? No. Am I gonna lose anything? In my. All my day, is everything gonna be. It's the ram. He doesn't know what it is. And I had tried to explain it to him. What is the random access memory is just. It doesn't do anything when the machine's off. It's just. It's just. It's nothing.

[John C. Dvorak]

You're removing my memory, my files, they're.

[Adam Curry]

Gone, but there's nothing there.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is my point. We have iPhones or smartphones in particular, have obfuscated storage. People only know storage is how many pictures can I put on it. They're not thinking about anything else, how many, and that it's sold that way. Well, you want the 256 gigabytes. You can put lots of pictures on it and lots of songs. But they don't understand storage or just all these. These very basics.

[Adam Curry]

No, they don't know that. It's unbelievable. They don't know the difference between random access memory and storage memory.

[John C. Dvorak]

So there. I think outside of becoming. Of getting a vocation plumber, electrician, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. If you really want to be in knowledge, work and being able, I think there will be a huge opportunity for people who understand a system to be able to create custom systems for any workplace, including a podcast. That's kind of the point I'm making, is that this stuff can be used for great benefit for productivity if you at least understand how systems work and you really can describe what you want to get out of the other end. Now, according to the CEO of Microsoft, AI. No, you're all dead.

[News Reporter]

You talk about superintelligence, most of your rivals talk about AGI, artificial general intelligence. Explain the difference between AGI and super intelligence.

[John C. Dvorak]

I prefer the definition that focuses first on what would it take to build a system that could achieve most of the tasks that a regular professional in a workplace goes about on a daily basis. Think of it as a professional grade AGI.

[News Reporter]

How close are we?

[John C. Dvorak]

I think that we're going to have a human level performance on most, if not all professional tasks. So white collar work where you're sitting down at a computer, either being a lawyer or an accountant, or a project manager or a marketing person. Most of those tasks will be fully automated by an AI within the next 12 to 18 months. And we can see this in software engineering. Many software engineers report that they are now using AI assisted coding for the vast majority of their code production, which means that their role shifted now to the, this meta function of debugging, scrutinizing, of doing the strategic stuff like architecting, et cetera, et cetera, putting things into production. So it's a quite different relationship to the technology and that's happened in the last six months. I'm going to presume that if you have a law firm and you're uploading, you're putting contracts in and saying summarize this. I'm going to presume that you are actually helping to add data to train these models on the next go around.

[Adam Curry]

Well, the models aren't doing it themselves. This is the thing that's overlooked here. Yeah, okay. Everyone's using the AI to do coding, you, you included. But it's not like it's doing it on its own without you having anything to do with it. You have to, you're telling it what to do and you know what should come out. All it's doing is increasing your productivity. It's not eliminating. You haven't been eliminated. No, we're, you're, you're still stuck there.

[John C. Dvorak]

I listen, I'm trying to Eliminate myself here.

[Adam Curry]

You can't, it can't be done. Well, but it's the same thing with AGI. They're talking about, oh, this, and that's going to replace. No, it's not. It's going to increase productivity. There's no doubt about that. I mean, let's, I mean, when Darren sent me the 18 pieces, if he had done, done those by hand, it would have taken my year.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, this is, this is an interesting example because one, Darren has eliminated 300 other prompters who just can't cut it and every single original artist. So yeah, it's enhanced Darren's productivity, but you can't deny that other people have been obviously just, they are eliminated. They're gone, they're dead. Jim, even Nick the Rat who did so much of our art, he was the leaderboard leader still.

[Adam Curry]

Is he?

[John C. Dvorak]

But he can't get something in there.

[Adam Curry]

Compete.

[John C. Dvorak]

He can't compete. So that's, that's my point.

[Adam Curry]

Well, this is like a carpenter that, you know, when the first hammer was invented, I mean, come on, the guy with the hammer is the guy who's going to get all the work. It's just the same thing. It's like, yeah, this is true. It's, it does. People who learn that use the new tool will do better than people that have failed to move to. It's like when Photoshop first showed up. I mean, the artists that use Photoshop could be more productive because they could work with the art directors and say, I, you know, I like your art, but I think if the background was blue. Oh God, I do the whole piece over again. Or no, with Photoshop you touch this and that, the whole background's blue all of a sudden. Just instantly.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And so that you, if you're going to ignore the tools. Yeah. You're going to be out of a job.

[John C. Dvorak]

Or, or if you just can't get into the tool.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Well, this is a, this is a IQ issue.

[John C. Dvorak]

You're too dumb for AI.

[Adam Curry]

You're too dumb for AI. I mean, or you don't want to, or you're, or you're stuck in the mud or you're one of the, or you're, you know, just one of these people that just sucks kind of. Which, you know, it sounds like I should be that way, but I'm not.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, but I'm, I, I think I'm, I'm crawling back bit. I see great advantage in this. I still think it will have to be decentralized and, and people will use open source models. In different scenarios. I just, I don't see how the scaling, the hyperscalers, how they can make the money part work. Because they have.

[Adam Curry]

They can't.

[John C. Dvorak]

They can't. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

They have to satisfy every reality. This is not going to work.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, it will work on a decentralized, at home or in a group basis. Open source.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. I mean it works as a tool. Then people are taking advantage of. But in terms of, of a, of a. It's hard to say. There's got to be an analogy for this. Something like this has taken place before where you have something.

[John C. Dvorak]

An analog, not an analogy. Well, okay, how about this? Metropolitan. Metropolitan Fiber Systems. This is, I think a good analog. We had the dot com boom. Everyone's flipping out. We need lots of bandwidth. We need bandwidth. Bandwidth. Need tons of bandwidth. They lay fiber, all dark fiber all around the country and they go broke.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, they did. And the fiber is still there. There's fiber all over the country.

[John C. Dvorak]

But it got picked up. It got picked up by other people.

[Adam Curry]

At scrounger prices.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. So data centers with, you know, with big machines everywhere. I'm thinking 18 months down the road, Mr. AI Microsoft AI CEO. I'm going to go hang out at some data centers and pick me up some Nvidia cards, bring them home and it'll be pretty cool. That's what I see happening, of course.

[Adam Curry]

Well, that's actually not a bad scenario. I think that, that as a predictive. I think you're onto something.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I'm gonna, I just haven't had time, but I'm gonna load up that Quin 3 TTS model, which is for everything. I can tell from the demos better than Elevenlabs at. At sampling my own voice saying that, yeah, I'm gonna get it done. Well, that's a perfect example. 11 Labs is the one I actually spend money on and it's. And it's not cheap before, you know. Burning tokens. Burning tokens.

[Adam Curry]

Tokens. That's another good one. This is like the magic money. This is like a stripper operation. It's like get a topless bar where you go.

[John C. Dvorak]

And tokens.

[Adam Curry]

You get tokens for the girls for.

[John C. Dvorak]

Fake money tokens or stripper money. Yes. And I love Apple.

[Adam Curry]

Who.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think they're stupid over there. They still want to incorporate AI and make it make Siri helpful. They just came out with an announcement. Oh, well, has it been two years now? They've been saying, oh, we're going to put it in the next release. The next release, the next release. And I read this report from Bloomberg. The company is now working to spread the new capabilities out over future versions, possibly postponing at least some features until at least iOS 26.5 or iOS 27, whenever those are due. Here's the Line testing has uncovered problems with the software, including issues with Siri properly processing queries, taking too long to handle requests and accurate issues, accuracy issues. Well, yeah, that's AI. That's what AI is. Takes too long, sometimes has inaccuracy issues. Are they going to try and make this thing perfect?

[Adam Curry]

I think that's nuts. If they think that's going to happen.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think that's exactly what they're doing. I think it's a mistake. So anyway, I'm a little more bullish on billable hours type jobs like, like paralegals. I'll talk to Rob about it. The Constitutional Lawyer it seems to me that once just like see the, the beauty about code is if you make a mistake in code, the code doesn't run. That's the beauty of it. Syntax is everything. So that's a very defined language skill that these models have when it comes to legality. And I don't know, I, I think you can do certain contracts and stuff. It seems like that would be possible to do. You don't think so?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, well, contracts are all boilerplates so it shouldn't be that hard.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Right. So, but that will reduce someone's job somewhere. I think that's what they're saying. Entry level white collar jobs. I am so happy. I'm a podcaster right now. Can you imagine?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I can imagine.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I'm very happy. Anyway, NPR jumps on the bandwagon and they're still talking about the, the obvious problem of people using their chatbot for emotional support.

[News Reporter]

In the U.S. 90% of schools say they're concerned about the mental health effects of students online lives. Nearly half report daily incidents of digital harm and over 60% say digital harm. They students turning to children for emotional support, often before reaching out to a person. That's according to new data from Linewise, a company that tracks student mental health. Harrison Parker is the VI president of that group.

[John C. Dvorak]

They are becoming AI imaginary friend for these kids and what started out as curiosity for them is really increased or.

[Adam Curry]

Changed into something far more concerning.

[News Reporter]

In the UK that number jumps to 70%. And in Australia, nearly three in four schools say tech is moving faster than their ability to respond. Windsor Johnston, NPR News.

[Adam Curry]

So here's that even mean. How's it moving fast?

[John C. Dvorak]

Where's it going down the tube, it's.

[Adam Curry]

Moving faster than they can respond. What is that? That's stupid. What does it mean?

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know. It's npr. What does NPR even mean anymore? So according to cnbc, AI companies Anthropic and Meta, this is. This will irk you are hiring social media creators to post sponsored content on apps like Facebook, Instagram, YouTube and LinkedIn and paying said creators between 400,000 and $600,000 for long term partnerships spanning several months. I love AI, don't you, John?

[Adam Curry]

Wow.

[John C. Dvorak]

Don't you love AI? Don't you think anthropic is great, huh? Come on, come on.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. That reminds me of the super bowl commercials going back to that earlier thing where they had these anthropic and I guess Chad, the chat open AI commercials that were battling. They were Coke and Pepsi.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, hold on.

[Adam Curry]

We're better than you are. No, you suck.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hold on, hold on. Super bowl commercials. The last time we had a category in super bowl we had crypto. We had FTX and we had crypto. Dot com. Men. What happened? Blow up.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, they all crap down before that.

[John C. Dvorak]

Super Bowl. Pets.com, groceries.com. what happened after that?

[Adam Curry]

Blow up.

[John C. Dvorak]

So this would. You'd think for spell.

[Adam Curry]

For spell.

[John C. Dvorak]

For spell. That's a Dutchism. I can't believe I said that.

[Adam Curry]

Wow. I never heard of it.

[John C. Dvorak]

For spelling is the Dutch.

[Adam Curry]

I don't know.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know what happened. I was talking to my daughter today. Might have been that conversation. Conversation would. What's the word I'm looking for? Forcepell.

[Adam Curry]

Well, now you have four spells stuck in my head. Foretell.

[John C. Dvorak]

Foretell. I like forcepell. It would.

[Adam Curry]

I like For a spell. I think it's a cool phrase.

[John C. Dvorak]

We're gonna keep word or whatever it is that would mean doom is on the way for at least some companies.

[Adam Curry]

Doom is obviously on the way.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Curry]

I mean we all know this. It's doom's on the way. It's going to take the whole market with it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, the whole economy.

[Adam Curry]

Nightmare.

[John C. Dvorak]

The whole economy.

[Adam Curry]

It's going to happen. The way I see it, I'm trying to think, you know, they would like to. The Democrats are doing. So back to what our theme is for today's show. The Democrats are doing so well with the midterms that you know what an old trick is to crash the economy before an election and then the president gets blamed. But you can't do. You can't take a chance. Why take a chance? You don't want to take a chance when things are going so well and you already know you're going to kick ass. And so what's going to happen is that they're going to, I think the Democrats will do their thing and take over the House and start to want to impeach Trump a couple more times. And then there'll be a crash right afterwards. And it'll be blamed on the Democrats, but it won't make any difference because there's a fear that the Democrats could get blamed for a crash. I mean, they can't take a chance. So we're going to have a good economy until the midterms and then AI is going to bring the whole thing down.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I like that prediction.

[Adam Curry]

It's a terrible prediction. I brought something like this up with Horowitz and he was not happy.

[John C. Dvorak]

I like it as a prediction. NPR is already working hard for the Democrat Party and focusing very much on affordability. And I have a couple of short clips.

[Adam Curry]

And now we are going to turn.

[John C. Dvorak]

To another big issue that voters are clearly thinking about right now, the economy. Mara, how are these voters, these are.

[Adam Curry]

Voters who voted for Joe Biden in.

[John C. Dvorak]

2020 and Donald Trump in 2024.

[Adam Curry]

How are they feeling about the economy right now?

[News Reporter]

I would say they're feeling pretty bad.

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean, some of them mentioned some.

[News Reporter]

Good things like gas prices going down, but they talked about groceries and health care and housing being too expensive. One woman said the state of the economy sucks. Everything is spiraling out of control. The cost of living, layoffs, businesses are closing. It was a pretty dire view. I think they are willing to give Trump some time to fix it. There was a big debate about whether it was his economy, whether he was at fault or was it still Biden's fault. But I think that nothing in our focus group diverged from national polling, which shows that people are very, very sour on the economy.

[John C. Dvorak]

So there's the big question. Which was it? Is it Trump's economy or Biden's economy?

[Adam Curry]

So are these and these again, these.

[John C. Dvorak]

Are voters who voted for Donald Trump in 2024, and they're feeling more anxious.

[Adam Curry]

After he's taken office.

[John C. Dvorak]

Are they blaming him for that?

[News Reporter]

Well, I think there's been a debate about how much to blame Trump for this. Some people said tariffs were raising prices. Other people said it's Biden's fault. That certainly is Trump's message, and these voters are hearing it a lot based on the news sources that they consume. But that's gonna be the big battle in the midter. Say whether this is Trump's economy or Biden's economy?

[John C. Dvorak]

This is from the NPR Politics podcast. One more.

[News Reporter]

One of my takeaways was how much all these things get conflated. The economy, immigration, foreign policy. Kind of adds up to chaos and anxiety for voters. Here's one voter named Nancy who explained how all this makes her feel. Well, I like a few of his policies and things he's done. The issues I have are the big ones with things like tariffs, you know, financial impact on our economy, the way he's handling the whole ICE thing, trying to start wars everywhere, Venezuela trying to take over Greenland, everything like that.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is a very informed voter. The whole ice thing is taking over Greenland, you know, financial impact on our economy.

[News Reporter]

The way he's handling the whole ICE thing, trying to start wars everywhere, Venezuela.

[John C. Dvorak]

Trying to take over Greenland, starting wars. What, what is she consuming? She's a Republican, I guess. No, I don't think so.

[Adam Curry]

No, I don't think so.

[News Reporter]

And everything like that. It's just so chaotic that all the bad stuff just kind of eliminates the good.

[Adam Curry]

That's so interesting, the chaos thing, it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Feels like the most predictable part of a Trump presidency. I mean, we saw this already in four years of Trump's first term. Are these voters surprised by that level of uncertainty?

[News Reporter]

We didn't ask them if they were surprised. They just don't like it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay. I mean, what was that?

[Adam Curry]

What the hell is that?

[News Reporter]

They were surprised. They just don't like it.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm fake and gay. Okay. I mean, they do seem like voters though, who, considering they supported Trump in 2024, would be receptive to his spin on some of the economics.

[News Reporter]

Just because you voted for Trump doesn't mean you like every single thing about him. And that's what these voters were telling us, that they left us.

[John C. Dvorak]

But I guess I'm just trying to.

[Adam Curry]

Drill down on why are there no rose colored glasses. The way that President Trump has been trying to push. Like there are positives that you can find in the economy right now.

[John C. Dvorak]

Record stock market, I feel like they.

[News Reporter]

Right.

[John C. Dvorak]

You can't see.

[News Reporter]

This is about prices, not the rate of inflation. This is about everyday, the people, people's everyday lives. And even though, yes, the stock market is good, GDP is good, but they're having to pay more, as they told us, for housing, health care, groceries, yeah, groceries came up a lot. That was something that people were mentioned over and over again is that groceries still remain too high. They saw those prices tick up during COVID and they really have not seen the meaning Fleet go Down for the exception of, of eggs.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now instead of NPR explaining how inflation works, they just go along and say, well, they haven't seen prices come down except for eggs prices. Why aren't prices coming down? John C. Dvorak will explain nothing too well.

[Adam Curry]

There's not much to explain. I harp on this and somebody sent me a note complaining about my harping is good harping.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's, people need to hear.

[Adam Curry]

Inflation is cumulative. It doesn't go down. If you, if you have a 2% inflation rate, that means things continue to, to grow at a percentage at 2% and they get, it's higher and higher and higher and it doesn't, it doesn't back off. I mean the egg thing is, is an anomaly because that had to do with the culling of the chickens because of bird flu. It's got nothing to do with anything. So egg prices are just shouldn't even be taken into account. Energy prices are the only things that'll go up and down a bit. And it does have an overall effect because, you know, if it costs less to move stuff around, then you can sell it for less money money. And so energy prices are the only thing that you can expect to come down and maybe have some minor influence. But when it comes to the basic price of groceries, whatever you're paying today is what you're going to be paying generally speaking, with very little. It's not going to start deflating because if you have a deflation economy, which is what everyone seems to want, you go into a deflationary economy that you'll basically break the back of the economy because nobody buys anything during a deflation period because why should I buy today when it'll be cheaper tomorrow? So they just hold onto their money money. Everything collapses. So you just stuck with the situation the way it is and bitching and moaning about it doesn't help.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think the president did himself no favors by saying I'll bring prices down. He was pretty, pretty bold about the generic I'll bring prices down bit.

[Adam Curry]

Well, he was also like when we get into the I have some clips here on who is this about the hearings that we had?

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, this week? Gracious.

[Adam Curry]

You know, Bondi, I got curse.

[John C. Dvorak]

I curse. Curse YouTube TV for putting C Span on. I curse you.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I have, you know, I tried to figure out so but Pam Bondi goes, this is a classic example of the mistakes the administration are making is making that will affect the midterms.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

And Bondi is the best example of it. But so I got these three BBC Clips which I think because they have an analyst come in and who's obviously, you know, biased against Trump. But I have to agree with everything he says about Bondi. She gets into a, she goes into front of Congress and they, she gets into a big battle with everybody because she won't answer questions to the Democrats. The Democrats are failed.

[John C. Dvorak]

You're a failed lawyer.

[Adam Curry]

I mean, okay, it's ridiculous. Yeah, the failed lawyer thing.

[John C. Dvorak]

Raskin was funny though.

[Adam Curry]

Jamie Raskin a dick and he's a communist and he's the worst person in Congress and she goes after it with him. But, but again, you want to play these clips?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah, of course, of course. It's great.

[Adam Curry]

This is the BBC report on the, on the hearings. And I mean, I could have gone and gotten clips.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, everyone's doing that.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, no, this is, this analysis is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Better than you be Megan Kelly. Clip me, clip me. Put it on social media.

[News Reporter]

Turning now to the tense scenes on Capitol hill today as U.S. attorney General Pam Bondi faced heavy scrutiny from a congressional panel about her handling of the Epstein files. In often combative exchanges, Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee accused the Justice Department of an active cover up. The lawmakers criticized a slow release of documents and the choice to censor names of alleged co conspirators over those of victims. Here's one particularly heated exchange between Pam Bondi and Republican Congressman Thomas Massie. My position is any victim who comes forward, of course, we would love to hear from them. 1-800- call FBI. Did you ask Merrick Garland that the last four years, did you talk about Epstein?

[Adam Curry]

I am reclaiming my time. I'm glad, glad you're asking about Merrick Garland because this is bigger than Watergate.

[News Reporter]

When I don't answer questions.

[Adam Curry]

This goes over four administrations. You don't have to go back to Biden. Let's go back to Obama. Let's go back to George Bush. This cover up spans decades and you are responsible for this portion of it.

[News Reporter]

Now, Pam Bondi admitted in a letter to federal judges this week that mistakes were made in the Epstein case. But at Wednesday's congressional hearing, the attorney general defended her department's strategy, saying hundreds of lawyers worked on a compressed timeline to review millions of pages and that any disclosure of victims identities were inadvertent. Take a listen. I want to take a moment to acknowledge the Epstein survivors who are here today. I'm a career prosecutor and despite what the ranking member said, I have spent my entire career fighting for victims and I will continue, continue to do so. I am deeply sorry for what any victim. Any victim has been through, especially as a result of that monster. The Department of Justice is committed to holding criminals accountable to the fullest extent of the law.

[John C. Dvorak]

I still would like a news outlet to give me a definition of victim. You know, were you a victim because you were underage? Were you a victim because you got sucked up into something you should have stayed away with, stayed away from? You know, this. Just throw out victims and survivors and I'd like to know a little bit more.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I'm agreeing with you on this. You know, it's vague. It's very vague. The whole thing is very vague. And so they bring this guy on to talk about.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let me just add to that. I would if. Is there a victim who was truly underage and sexually abused by. By Epstein or any of the co conspirators? If so, why can't they speak? Why are they not out there speaking about it? This is.

[Adam Curry]

I wonder myself.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't understand. It seems like that would be a good thing to do. Tell us what happened. Where's the 60 Minutes interview? It feels like something's missing here from the equation. If it is what we're told it.

[Adam Curry]

Is, there's something missing. Missing, yeah, but I think there's a lot missing.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And of course, did you see a video that guy sent this morning that floated over this, that it was a song, presented the history of Epstein based in a song form?

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, the video. Yeah, I've seen that.

[Adam Curry]

Where they got everybody tied up in one big giant ball.

[John C. Dvorak]

Dynamite.

[Adam Curry]

It's dynamite.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's worth the 1.3 trillion dollar investment right there.

[Adam Curry]

So they bring this guy, and I have to agree with this guy and his analysis of Bondi. Of course, the two of us, I think, think Bondi's a doofus. She's not talented and she's combative and she doesn't present well. She's not well spoken and her argument's weak and she snaps and she's. And she doesn't do anything. She's a do nothing. And it's almost as though, though they're making the public suffer because Matt Gaetz didn't get, you know, he got kicked out of the. He was the original choice who would have probably been an interesting attorney general, I think. Yeah, but they kicked him out and he didn't even get back into Congress and he. They're making us suffer because.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I mean, the correct way to handle a hostile Congress interrogation is not this way. You want to be cool, you want to have sharp.

[Adam Curry]

That's why Rubio is so good at it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. Rubio has very sharp, very fast good answers. Parades like no one else. But Bondi just goes, you're a fake failed lawyer. You don't care about people killed by illegal immigrants. Like, okay, you're mixing apples with oranges. I understand. It was the, the, it should have been about ICE and dhs. I believe that's what the conf. The, the session was for. But it obviously devolved into Epstein and, you know, just sit there. Well, you don't care that a sinning congresswoman took money from Epstein. You don't care that you took money from Epstein. Ro. Kahana, Rohana. You know, it's like, that's not, that's what they call.

[Adam Curry]

No, she's, she's.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no good. She's not, she's not doing a good job. No.

[Adam Curry]

But then it gets compounded as we listen to. When we listen to this, who has a lot to say.

[News Reporter]

Let's speak about that congressional hearing today with Ankush Kardori, senior writer for Political Magazine and a former federal prosecutor at the Department of Justice. It's good to have you back with us on the program today. What do you think we learned, if anything, from the hearing today?

[John C. Dvorak]

We learned nothing, except we learned a little bit more. For people who already didn't know about the professionalism or utter lack thereof, the top law enforcement official in our country, I thought, let me put it this way. If you saw someone acting like she did today, like at the table over at a restaurant, if you were out to dinner, you would ask yourself, is this person okay? And you'd probably ask management to escort them from the restaurant. This is now the person who is our Attorney General. I thought it was an embarrassment to her, the department, and frankly, our country on their international stage. Also, why isn't anyone asking, like the people who are on in the emails talking about pizza and jerky? That's something I'd like to understand. What, do you really put jerky in the, in the freezer? Could you explain that to me? This is what I'm interested in, if anything. No, there's none of that. No one asked.

[Adam Curry]

You're never going to get any of that. That's. That's verboten.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, so onward. That was. Sorry, you're still in clip two or.

[John C. Dvorak]

We'Re on to the three is lined up and good to go in my Linux playouts system. Good.

[News Reporter]

You know, if you look at the exchanges there, there were certainly plenty of shouting going back and forth with Democrats as Well, so, I mean, what was the point for Democrats here? Is this about, you know, viral clips that they can post online as well?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, look, yeah, I mean, look, part of the, part of these hearings always have a performative element to them. Unfortunately, in this day and age. Yeah, I think many members are focused on getting, you know, bites that they can post to their social media. But I kind of, you know, yeah, they were going back and forth a day, Democrats, but she wasn't answering their questions and she was yelling at them and she was trying to change the subject. She was filibustering endless non sequiturs. So, like this was her fault.

[News Reporter]

The point that she made a few times there is why did you not ask these questions of Merrick Garland, who was the Attorney General under Joe Biden? And that again is a point that the Trump administration and many of President Trump's allies have made, that Democrats are taking advantage of the Epstein Fund files to try to detract from the administration. What do you make of that argument?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, it's the logic of a five year old. This administration came into office promising to release this material. They then spent all yet last year hemming, hawing, backtracking, undertaking really disgusting efforts to mislead the public, including spending two days with Ghislaine Maxwell as if she's not a monster. And so, you know, then we had Pam Bondi with the bind and the client list is on my desk. I mean, they created this mess. So, yes, there is an element of politics on the side of the Democrats for sure. I was not a fan of this law. I didn't want it to pass. So don't get me wrong on that. But the state of affairs in our country right now is a function of the fact that the president, his vice president, his FBI director, and until recently deputy FBI director spent years spitting up these conspiracy theories. So it's kind of nuts for her of all people to like try to make this someone else's problem. She is the one who did multiple Fox interviews next last year hyping this up, the binders. More is coming, the client list, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada.

[Adam Curry]

Well, he said yada yada, yada. Well, the point I think he made, which I agree with, is that she brought this on herself. She had the, oh, this on my desk. Oh, here's the binders, here's this. She's terrible.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, I completely agree with that. That was an idiotic move. Move. That's really, that's what screwed it all up. Yeah, it's her.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, she's gotta go.

[John C. Dvorak]

I have a couple of clips about this. What? What?

[Adam Curry]

Hmm?

[John C. Dvorak]

What?

[Adam Curry]

Well, my browser's not working.

[John C. Dvorak]

Right. Well, are you using Bravo?

[Adam Curry]

No, I'm using hbo.

[John C. Dvorak]

This is a Prime Minister's question time. Because, of course, course, what's happening in the EU and the UK is much more interesting as it pertains to the Epstein files.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak]

And Keir Starmer is under a lot of scrutiny and stress, mainly because. And you know, all they talk about is, well, you knew he was a. You know, he was a sex trafficker. You knew all this. How about the fact that he was leaking really sensitive information about a 500 billion euro bailout during 2008, five minutes after he found out, devaluation of the pound, five minutes after he found out, telling Epstein that. I mean, think of. Think about the people who were in on that gambit. If you. I mean, when it comes to foreign exchange, if you know there's a big bailout coming and it's secret, place your bet.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yeah. No, that's easy money.

[John C. Dvorak]

And if Epstein knew it, then he probably called all of his buddies. That's an outrage. Anyway, here's Prime Minister's Question Times.

[News Reporter]

Mr. Speaker, I asked the Prime Minister a very specific question. Did he know that Mandelson had continued his friendship with Epstein after the conviction? He says if he knew then what he knows now.

[John C. Dvorak]

But he did know in January.

[News Reporter]

In January 2024, a journalist from the Financial Times informed the Prime Minister that Mandelson had stayed in Epstein's house even after that conviction for child prostitution. So did the Prime Minister conveniently forget.

[John C. Dvorak]

This fact, or did he decide it.

[News Reporter]

Was a risk worth taking?

[John C. Dvorak]

Mr. Speaker, as the House would expect, we went through a process. There was a due diligence exercise and then there was security vetting by the security services. What was not known was the depth, the sheer depth and extent of the relationship. He lied about that to everyone for years. A new information was published in September showing the relationship was materially different to what we'd been led to believe. When the new information came to light, I sacked him. Oh, yes, I sacked him. You already knew. You already knew. And now the guys working for Starmer are bailing. The rats are leaving the ship.

[News Reporter]

It's the second high profile exit from Keir Starmer's entourage in as many days. Tim Allen, the UK Prime Minister's communications chief, said he was standing down to make way for a new team to be built at number 10 Downing Street. It's part of the Fallout over Keir Starmer's decision to appoint Peter Mandelson as Ambassador to the United States despite knowing Mandelson had maintained links to the convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. On Sunday, Starmer's chief of staff, Morgan McSweeney, quit. In a statement, McSweeney said he took responsibility for pushing the appointment of Mandelson. It was interpreted in the British press as a move to buy the Prime Minister more time. Starmer, though, is still facing calls to step down, including from the leader of Scotland's Labour Party. Meanwhile, Conservative Party leader Kemi Badenok accused him of being unable to run his government.

[John C. Dvorak]

The Prime Minister is the architect of his own misfortunes.

[Adam Curry]

Right now we have a government that's.

[John C. Dvorak]

Focusing purely on its own internal psychodrama.

[News Reporter]

Enough of that.

[Adam Curry]

It is time for them to get.

[News Reporter]

A grip and start governing the country. Controversy around Peter Mandelson reignited after a new batch of files related to Jeffrey Epstein were released just over a week ago. In the United States, documents appeared to indicate Mandelson had leaked sensitive information to Epstein while he was a government minister. There were also records of payments from Epstein to accounts linked to the British politician or his partner. Starmer sacked the US ambassador in September, but the latest revelations prompted Mandelson to resign from the Labour Party and the House of Lords while police are investigating him for potential misconduct in public office. On Monday, a spokesperson for Keir Starmer said he was focused on getting the job done and had no plans to step aside.

[John C. Dvorak]

That Mandelson man, they don't even really. The BBC doesn't even say say it. Yeah, he was sensitive information. That was world shattering information. And then, well, you know, hey, if you're going to send 75,000 to my husband, my partner, just say it's a loan. So there'll be no tax implication for him. But come on, the corruption by the bye.

[Adam Curry]

Wow.

[John C. Dvorak]

Save myself.

[Adam Curry]

See you're better than I am at this buy.

[John C. Dvorak]

The buy.

[Adam Curry]

Annoying as by the way.

[John C. Dvorak]

Of Jesus, I don't think Mandelson is long for this world. There's got to be more, there's got to be a lot more. And nobody wants anyone snooping around Mandelson.

[Adam Curry]

And you know there's also the strange thing I put in the. I think it was in the newsletter I mentioned this, the gay angle. All of a sudden shows up. Yeah with this, with this Russian guy who's works for Bill Gates and he's wants to meet some boys or something and they're kind of going back and forth, some emails that they Discovered and he wants to meet Kevin Spacey was.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, because Kevin knows all the young boys.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, base. You know, it's just the whole thing is like. It's tawdry and all kinds of dimensionally. Tawdry.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, tawdry. I like that. That it's tawdry. That's a very good term. Tawdry. Gordon Brown comes out trying to give some kind of defense for just another one of them, another great guy. Well, he has clearly said it was the wrong decision and it was the wrong decision. Just as I made a mistake. He made a mistake. But equally, I think you've got to say of K. There's very few people. What was Gordon Brown's mistake?

[Adam Curry]

I don't know. I don't remember. Something besides he made a mistake.

[John C. Dvorak]

Besides breaking the bank of England.

[Adam Curry]

Besides that minor mistake.

[John C. Dvorak]

A mistake. He made a mistake. But equally, I think you've got to say of Keir Starmer, there's very few people that you can see have got the same amount of integrity as Keir Starmer has. He was Director of Public Prosecutions, did a brilliant job. He's a public. He was in charge of prosecution. That is the guy who should absolutely know that was not a good idea to put Mandelson in. Or maybe the most brilliant idea ever. Director of Public Prosecutions did a brilliant job. He's a serious man who wants to do the right thing in British politics. If he made a mistake, he owns up to it. But I think the question now for Keir Sama is is he prepared and will he be prepared to bring in the reforms that are necessary to end these abuses? What we're dealing with is what reforms are you going to bring in to end these abuses? What is he talking about? Reforms in the reforms that are necessary to end these abuses. What we're dealing with is the abuse of power. We're dealing with the systematic abuse of power by lobbyists, by people who are corrupt, by people who don't give property, by politicians and their cronies. Gordon Brown, information, when the. They're asked to disclose information. We're dealing with a lack of transparency.

[Adam Curry]

In the system, all these things.

[John C. Dvorak]

And by the way, I did a report for Kieran, by the way, that this be done and this is the report that should be. See how bad it sounds when you hear someone say it? It sounds like that says, he's lying. Now, by the way is not a good term. We're dealing with a lack of transparency.

[Adam Curry]

In the system, all these things.

[John C. Dvorak]

And by the way, I did A report for KIIR recommending all that this be done. And this is the report that should be taken up. There are four areas where we need to make major reforms. They could be done within weeks with the support of members of Parliament in the House of Commons. And I believe it would be possible we could start to clean up the system from tomorrow. But it's got to be done. You know, what this has created is a complete. On the heels of COVID obviously a complete and total lack of trust for government across the board. Every country, everywhere. No one, no one trusts government anymore. Not even those. The nut jobs protesting in Minneapolis. And I don't know if can any country recover from that? What are the historical analogues to this?

[Adam Curry]

Well, the history of the United States, I think, is part of.

[John C. Dvorak]

Of it. Yeah. And what do we wind up.

[Adam Curry]

We had a bunch of doofuses running things. And.

[John C. Dvorak]

And what. What happened? What happened when the.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, he just comes. You come out of it somehow.

[John C. Dvorak]

I was looking for more of a historian angle there.

[Adam Curry]

Well, that's the best I can do.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, that's. I had hoped for more.

[Adam Curry]

Well, yeah, you can hope all you want.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, obviously. And then we have. Have. I was explaining to someone about the Olympics, about the ioc. I said, what's the ioc? The International Olympic Committee. And they have all these country committees. What is it? I said, it's the most corrupt organization, maybe. Well, there's a couple that would rival it. But what you do is you leave politics and then you go to the ioc. The every IOC of every country is filled with former politicians and they get paid for being part of the board and going on the board and they all have their buddies with big, you know, hey, I see advertising on the Olympics. I don't know about you. You know, it's a huge boondoggle, especially the Summer Olympics. We got to build a stadium and, you know, then that. And that's going to bankrupt the country. And then some dude will come in and buy it for a team that he just bought. It's a mess. It's a mess. But, oh, don't worry, we'll take care of you.

[News Reporter]

The city's Olympic organizing committee, LA28, is standing by its chairman, Case Wasserman. Wasserman's name is in the latest batch of Epstein files. He traveled on Epstein's private jet once and later exchanged racy emails with Epstein conspirator Ghislaine Maxwell. Today, L.A. 28's executive board issuing a statement saying they've reviewed the situation and Wasserman fully Cooperated. They say his relationship with Epstein and Maxwell did not go beyond what is publicly known. And given Wasserman's strong leadership, he will be staying on as chairman of LA28.

[John C. Dvorak]

Of course. Why not? I'm sure there'll be some. There'll be some hotties at the Olympics this year. Just let him, Let him do his thing.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it's a good one.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's complete, complete loss of trust, which for me, it already happened and someone pointed out and that was a good point. Point. They keep reminding us, hey, man, the lockdowns happened under Trump. Yes, absolutely. Trump got bamboozled too, and still can't really admit that the vaccines were not a good idea, which is, I think, still very disappointing.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, but he likes the idea that this warp speed, you know, he was responsible for it happening faster than ever, and he just kind of can't bring himself. Well, completely. He was. Bamboozled is the right word. And by the way, where was the first lockdown?

[John C. Dvorak]

By the way, you said, by the.

[Adam Curry]

Way, where was the first lockdown?

[John C. Dvorak]

Where was the first lockdown? China.

[Adam Curry]

No, it was San Francisco.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yes.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. And you have to continue to hound me, so I'm two to nothing on the, on the.

[John C. Dvorak]

And I'll say this about the lockdowns. Trump didn't lock down anything. It was burned. Burks who went to every single state, all the governors, and convinced the governors to do it. That's why I don't like Abbott. That's how, that's how that went down. That was, that was the, that was the, the back channel. That was very successful. And of course, President Trump could.

[Adam Curry]

And you liked Berks when she first showed up.

[John C. Dvorak]

First two weeks. First two weeks, yeah. I mean, you like saying that. You like saying that. And, and, but it, but after two weeks, I think we saw what was going on and we may have saved lives.

[Adam Curry]

Well, we saw what was going on. I think it was triggered personally, at least. What triggered me. I, I've thought about this. You know, why were we so caught up in this? The way we were is because of that French Nobel Prize winner.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Who looked at the genome, at the map of the thing and said, this is bull crap. This thing is obviously created in a lab, and here's the reasons why. And he says, and what's this HIV thing doing in here? It doesn' make any sense. Don't worry about it. It'll just revert. Which it did. It has reverted, just like he said. Today's Covid is nothing like the original. It's reverted back to a common cold. Flu or flu. Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Unfortunately, we still have blowback. This is your typical report. This is also from ktla.

[News Reporter]

The death of Dawson's Creek actor James Van Der Beek comes after he was diagnosed with stage three colorectal cancer. His passing is renewing concern about a disease that's rising among younger adults.

[Adam Curry]

These are young men still in the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Primes of their career.

[News Reporter]

And now we lost them. According to the American Cancer Society, it's now the leading cause of cancer deaths in Americans under 50. About 1 in 5 new cases is diagnosed in someone under under 55. Americans, we don't like to talk about.

[John C. Dvorak]

The health of our butts.

[Adam Curry]

We don't.

[John C. Dvorak]

And so there's a certain shame and embarrassment surrounding that.

[News Reporter]

Gustavo says he ignored his doctor's recommendation to get screened at 45 until a reminder during a physical pushed him to finally schedule a colonoscopy.

[Adam Curry]

And it said that they found three polyps. If I had even waited months more, I had.

[News Reporter]

They found three of them. How much bigger could they have been? Polyps can develop into cancer if left untreated. Doctors say that's why screenings are so important.

[John C. Dvorak]

If you can get it early, then.

[Adam Curry]

You can completely eradicate it and you will have no further problems.

[John C. Dvorak]

If it's later stage, it could be.

[Adam Curry]

Widespread to other organs at the time you're diagnosed.

[News Reporter]

Researchers are still working to understand exactly why cases are increasing in younger people. But doctors say whatever the case cause, the solution starts with awareness.

[John C. Dvorak]

What could the cause be?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, gee, it seems that this is something new. I wonder why.

[John C. Dvorak]

I have no idea what could have.

[Adam Curry]

Was he an actor or somebody who was forced to get the vaccine to work?

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, man. There's going to be such a. So many openings in Hollywood. I hate to say it, but yeah. Meanwhile, the FDA just refused Moderna's application for an MRNA flu vaccine. Praise God. God, someone got smart over there. Thank you. Maybe RFK Jr. The one that.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, you know, this is just a. It's just a momentary lapse. This will go back into full gear toward the other. In the other direction.

[John C. Dvorak]

You. You're so cynical.

[Adam Curry]

No, I'm not cynical. I'm. I'm a realist.

[John C. Dvorak]

Stop with your realist. You're not always right. Not always. I mean, sometimes.

[Adam Curry]

Usually. About this stuff, I'm pretty. Pretty on the money.

[John C. Dvorak]

The. The GLP one. The. I'm still waiting for it to solve erectile dysfunction. Please stop sending me articles about how it enlarges the penis. It's not the same thing, okay? People keep sending me this. You were right. No, it's the. When they said say it solves erectile dysfunction, then I will be right. It's coming, it's coming. But right now, one of the new.

[Adam Curry]

They have to roll this stuff out. This marketing 101. You don't throw everything at the, at the side of the wall right away. You do one gob at a time and then when that catches on and you pick up some more of the market share, then you throw another thing out there and another thing your thing is just happens to be low on the list. It's going to be at the bottom, it's going to be at the end. It'll be the Hail Mary argument.

[John C. Dvorak]

The Hail Mary.

[Adam Curry]

Well, it won't be a Hail Mary at the time. It'll be the. How much more can we, you know.

[John C. Dvorak]

How squeeze out of it? Yeah, squeeze.

[Adam Curry]

What's the last drop we can get out of this bull crap?

[John C. Dvorak]

One of the side effects, a very high profile side effect comes to us from Robbie Williams, British pop singer. Oh yeah, I've always liked Robbie Williams. I've always liked his stuff. Famous in the uk but he was never really that big in the. In the States.

[Adam Curry]

No, but he was famous in the big big.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, he just outsold the Beatles I guess in, in the uk, whatever that means. Or more had more number one hits or something. He came out and said he was diagnosed with a 17th century pirate disease as a side effect.

[Adam Curry]

Scurvy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, scurvy, exactly.

[Adam Curry]

Well, it's a vitamin C deficiency. It's no big deal.

[John C. Dvorak]

But it sounds cool when you say Ozempic will give you scurvy. It's just.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I guess Ozempic will. Yeah, we'll give you scurvy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, scurvy. Scurvy. I tell you, scurvy. I love scurvy. Great, that's great.

[Adam Curry]

But I wanted to get these clips out of the way. This is a, you know, as the Nancy Guthrie thing was dominating the news. Excuse me. Except on Miss now, which is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Can I just stop you for a second? What do you think happened? Do you think that it was an illegal that killed her at this point?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think that's a reasonable, reasonable assessment. What was the other one we were looking at? Oh, the pregnant astronaut. Do we have any more updates on that?

[Adam Curry]

No, not yet, but it's coming. She's going to have a baby. And we'll know when that happens.

[John C. Dvorak]

We'll do the math.

[Adam Curry]

Mimi says that Mimi had an Upper offbeat thing. She was getting sick of the. At the Guthrie stuff.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And she says, I think she was the leader of a massive Mexican drug cartel.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay. All right. The one I like is her husband worked for Clinton and she knew where the bodies were buried, so they had to get rid of her. I mean, there are people, I mean, people who I know and love and have been corresponding with on email for a long time. Long time. Who were like, this is all set up. This is all, you know, it's just like. No, it's.

[Adam Curry]

It's going to be a lot easier used your house.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

When's that coming out?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Oh, no, of course, of course. All of that. And that's the problem. When people lose trust in their government, they go nuts. Then every. Everything is a conspiracy and a lot of it is. But there's a lot of conspiracies. Actual conspiracies.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. As it turns out.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

So while that was being covered to excess.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

The Canadian trans shooter.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah.

[Adam Curry]

It's pretty much dropped by the American media. And I think.

[John C. Dvorak]

You can't talk about that.

[Adam Curry]

I think it was a cover up because you own another. You can just see it in the editorial rooms. Do we have to bring this another trans shooter? This is getting tiring. And so here we go. The BBC had a nice report. Here we go.

[News Reporter]

Canada reels from one of the worst mass shootings in its history. Police named the suspect as 18 year old Jesse Van Rosellaer. Eight people were killed and 25 people injured in the attacks at Tumblr Ridge Secondary School and a private home. It happened in the westernmost province of British Columbia in the remote town of Tumbler Ridge at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Six of the victims were killed at the town Secondary School. One died on their way to the hospital. Another two were found in a nearby house. In all, 25 other people were injured and police say the body of the suspected shooter was found at the school. Police say they don't yet have a motive and they gave this update to.

[John C. Dvorak]

Reporters on February 10th at approximately 1:20pm Pacific Standard Time. At times, Tumblr Ridge RCMP received a report of an active shooter at Tumblr Ridge Secondary School. A police initiated public alert PIPA was issued as officers responded. Police from Tubular Ridge RCMP and surrounding detachments responded immediately with members from the local detachment arriving within two minutes of the initial call. Upon arrival, there was active gunfire and as officers approached the school, rounds were fired in their direction. Officers entered the school to locate the threat. Within minutes, an individual Confirmed to be the shooter was located deceased with what appeared to be a self inflicted gunshot wound. The suspect has been identified as 18 year old Jesse Van Roetsellaar who is a resident of Tumblr Ridge. Two firearms, a long gun and a modified handgun were recovered by responding officers. Determined the origin of these firearms and what role they played in the shootings remains a significant part of the active and ongoing investigation.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, what role they played? The people or the guns?

[John C. Dvorak]

The guns.

[Adam Curry]

Were. The role they played was they shot people.

[John C. Dvorak]

I saw a post. Who knows if it's true that a lot of the kids who were killed also seemed to be so somewhat alternatively. Alternatively dress and perhaps trans as well. Did you see any of that?

[Adam Curry]

No, I have not seen any evidence of that.

[John C. Dvorak]

The whole thing is horrible. And so predictable. So predictable. And I guess there had already been problems at that home and they went at home and they removed guns. Is Canada big on guns? It's a mining town. Maybe that's it.

[Adam Curry]

Here we go with part two. The second. This is all explained in these clips.

[John C. Dvorak]

Good, good.

[News Reporter]

Our North America correspondent Neta Taufik is following this story for us today. Netta, it is good to see you. The press conference that police delivered gave us some more details about the suspect. Tell us about what we know. Yeah, that's right. You know, police say that Jesse Van Root Salaar is somebody who was known to them. In fact that they had visited the family home several times over the last few years for mental health reasons. They say in fact that they had actually taken Jesse Van Rootselaaer in for evaluation and assessment on a number of occasions and that also firearms in that home had been seized under a criminal code. That they were able to do that until the lawful owner of those firearms petitioned the courts to have those returned. Remember Sumy, the suspect had not only a modified handgun but a long gun in these attacks there in Tumblr Ridge. And what we also heard from police was that this 18 year old suspect is someone who dropped out of Tumblr Ridge sentence secondary school four years ago and that six years ago Jesse Van Rootseller, who was born a biological male, began to transition and identify as a female. So quite a lot more detail on the suspect. But as far as motive, they say that they aren't able to piece that together yet less than 24 hours after this attack.

[Adam Curry]

Did you do the math on. On that?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, hit me again with that.

[Adam Curry]

Six years, he's 18. Six years ago he began to transition. He was 12.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

So you had a 12 year old prepubescent kid, 12 year old. And this is pretty interesting. So you have. And now he's got trouble, he's got problems. And. And he dropped out of school four years earlier at 14. So he'd stopped going to school at the age of 14, which is what.

[John C. Dvorak]

Eighth grade, I guess. I don't know.

[Adam Curry]

So, anyway. All right.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, all right. I'll have a comment after this third clip.

[News Reporter]

And what have police said about the timeline of the attack? Well, look, they say that Jesse Van Rootzeller started at the family home where she allegedly killed her mother and stepbrother. And then from there, they say that the suspect then targeted the school. Now, we heard authorities saying that they were on the scene within minutes, but they did say that they heard gunfire when they arrived and that the suspect did direct fire at officers on the scene there. They said that they found six people dead in the school. A female teacher, along with five students from the ages of 12 to 13. And all of that in a matter of minutes. Of course, we know that there are 25 others who were injured. Sumy, those two of those people were airlifted to hospital. Others still fighting for their lives in hospital as we speak. So for this small community, it really is one of the worst mass shootings, of course, in Canada's history. History. But it is a profound loss for this small, quiet community itself.

[John C. Dvorak]

I need to get rid of all the guns in Canada. This.

[Adam Curry]

You know, the Canadians are freaky about guns anyway. But the. You think this would be. This would lead story. I'd think if I was running one of the networks. But the lead story's been the Nancy Guthrie stuff.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, of course.

[Adam Curry]

Which is providing no information whatsoever.

[John C. Dvorak]

Of course, they. No one.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, I mean, they bring. They put people out there. They. They stand up, they do a segment that lasts 10 minutes, they tell us nothing, and meanwhile, this story's completely dropped.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, of course, because everyone is complicit. The media is complicit. The therapists are complicit, the plastic surgeons are complicit. And sadly, sadly, parents have been. You know, we have a friend, a younger couple, which means in their mid-40s, and she was a therapist. She's still a therapist. She doesn't practice anymore. She was a therapist in Louisiana. Louisiana. And she would advertise Christian therapist pretty much everything, but not saying no lgbtq. And she said parents would bring their kids and they'll be. I just want my daughter, my son to be happy. They all kept reciting the same thing. I'd rather have a daughter who's happy than a dead son or a son.

[Adam Curry]

Who'S happy they're the other way around.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, no, but it was. It goes both ways.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Goes both ways.

[Adam Curry]

Right.

[John C. Dvorak]

And that was the psychological operation. And these parents, you know, now that we have the first lawsuit, the $2 million, I think it was New York.

[Adam Curry]

Which, by the way.

[John C. Dvorak]

There you go, by the way.

[Adam Curry]

Three zero three to nothing. I feel so bad for myself.

[John C. Dvorak]

Died. Me too. You were going to.

[Adam Curry]

So the. This $2 million lawsuit, I think, is super low.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, I agree.

[Adam Curry]

Because you have sterilization. You can't. Most people don't. Now it's turning out you can't. You can never in your entire life, after you get these treatments, when you're like 12, 13, 14, you can never have an orgasm.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, all of that's gone.

[Adam Curry]

You can't have a natural life. You can't. You can't reproduce. There's all these things. And $2 million is nothing. When people get a clue, when these lawyers finally, you know, the good lawyers, the top guys get a hold of this, you're talking 20, 30, 40, 50 million.

[John C. Dvorak]

And how about the news doctors who are all telling us that, well, you know, you can. These blockers are just temporary. When you stop them, then everything goes back to normal. No lie.

[Adam Curry]

That's a lie.

[John C. Dvorak]

These people should be held accountable. Lots of people should be held accountable. But I feel the worst for the parents who just wanted their kid to be happy. You do a lot for your kid to be happy. And if you're told over and over, remember, I got the books. My daughter wants to be a boy. What do I do? And I bought all those books that were being.

[Adam Curry]

There's a bunch of them.

[John C. Dvorak]

And the book was very little about the kid. All about how do you deal with the school, how do you deal with other parents? How do you deal with your family? Nothing about the kid. I guess we just jack him up with SSRIs. Ah, it's so, so, so, so sad. So sad. Here's. I just got a short. No, it's not even short a clip from News Nation because I went looking on. On YouTube. Hey, give me some reports about this in America. None except your typical News Nation report. But there were some valid points in here. There is a Canadian school shooting yesterday.

[Adam Curry]

The school shooter killed nine and injured.

[John C. Dvorak]

At least 25 before killing themselves.

[Adam Curry]

I say themselves because the shooter's gender is the issue here.

[News Reporter]

The shooter is transgender, man to woman.

[John C. Dvorak]

And Canada is so woke.

[News Reporter]

The Royal Canadian Mounted Police at one.

[Adam Curry]

Point referred to him now her as the gun person.

[News Reporter]

It's noteworthy that the police seem awfully concerned with respecting the shooter's preferred pro pronouns.

[John C. Dvorak]

We identify the suspect as they chose to be identified in public and in social media. I can say that Jesse was born as a biological male who approximately the information that I have, approximately six years ago, began to transition to female and identified as female both socially and publicly. In Canada, it is illegal to misgender someone.

[News Reporter]

The police should be careful, you know.

[John C. Dvorak]

And thinking about why it doesn't get any play for the exact same reason that they play up the two seconds erroneous Obama ape video versus the hey, wait a minute. These voting machines and the vote counting machines seem to be pretty bogus. And all things you told us aren't true is I think the Democrat Party and their. Yeah, forget that they're just politicians, but the, you know, the Schumers of the world and the big donors and the strategists and the think tanks, they are probably on their knees thanking God that this didn't happen in America because that's all they need. If that happened where?

[Adam Curry]

Oh, that get. Excellent point.

[John C. Dvorak]

President Trump can jump up and say, look at what's happening. Look at what the Democrats did to your kids. And I think he should do it. I think he should do it.

[Adam Curry]

And that's exactly why this thing is. This story has been suppressed in the US Media.

[John C. Dvorak]

Exactly. Don't talk about it. Don't give Trump any ideas. Distract him with more episodes.

[Adam Curry]

Don't give Trump any ideas. We're on a roll.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, we're doing great so far. Hey, with that, I want to thank you for your courage. Say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in the 17th century Pirates disease, say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only, Mr. John C. Demor.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, good morning. Nice out there in the morning.

[John C. Dvorak]

15:13, still a couple hundred low, but it's good to have everybody listening [e-mail] thank you for tuning in. And of course if you're listening later because this is a podcast, then you hopefully are listening on a modern podcast app. The reason why is because within 90 seconds of publishing our podcast, you will find out you get a notification because we use the awesome pod ping technology, part of the Podcasting 2.0, a group of volunteers who just try to make podcasting better. And if you all happen to be around and want to listen live, you can even listen to the live stream and we'll get a notification for that in the Same app. It's amazing. Even Apple is taking our stuff now. Chapters, transcripts. We just hope that someone will take POD Ping because it's so annoying to get those emails you haven't uploaded to Apple yet. No, it's not exactly how it works. It's not exactly how it works. And thank you all for the lovely email messages you sent about John Scott Adams interview, which we aired on 1841. And I'd listen to it again and I think it's one of the few really long form Scott Adams interviews that are around.

[Adam Curry]

I don't think there's any. I think that is the definitive interview. Now I look back on it now. I got a lot of compliments too, I will say. But this was from. I did this interview eight years ago and nobody paid attention.

[John C. Dvorak]

You just listen to that Trump apologist which brought up in the interview. Yeah, Scott Adams Trump apologist. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

[Adam Curry]

So now it got a lot of attention, you know, eight years later. But I. Thinking back on it, I don't, you know, he. I didn't realize that. I didn't think about it. That Scott. Nobody ever interviewed Scott. They brought him on show.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't, I don't think he wanted to be interviewed. It wasn't his thing, you know.

[Adam Curry]

I'm guessing that probably is true. He's a pretty. He was reclusive.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. You had a. You had a special relationship with him and of course it was. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I know I've known it forever.

[John C. Dvorak]

It was pre Covid. And that's when he really blew up for, you know, all kinds of different reasons. He was already huge. Of course I, I'm. The one thing I'm sad about is I wished we'd been able to find out what actually happened to his restaurants because he was like, I can't talk about it because there's all kinds of litigation and we settled and then we agreed not to.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, I know, I know the story.

[John C. Dvorak]

Can you talk about it? Yeah, course you can.

[Adam Curry]

Basically he had. He was there was he. He was put into a position where. Where the restaurant where the. Some of the co owners.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Had cornered him into forcing him into. To putting more money in or. It was a situation that he was not amenable to. And he said I'm not going to do that. And they said, you have to. To do it or else we're, you know, we'll just. They made a. They bluffed him saying we're gonna have to. We're gonna shutter the whole thing if you don't do this. Because you have. You need. You give us more money. And he. And he said, you know, no, no, shudder it.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I'm not gonna do that.

[Adam Curry]

It fold.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, good for him.

[Adam Curry]

He walked on a deal where he was being pressured.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, good for him. So that was good. And I thought it was good to do that on Super Bowl Sunday. We did talk about our production predictions, which I missed, of course. And you won.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

By. By a long shot. But then again, you are the sports ball guy. Yeah. So thank you all for. It was just nice. It was nice to see. I think also my Twitter timeline, you know, people were thinking of Scott and honoring him, and I think it was good, particularly because a lot of people just hadn't heard the interview. So that. That made it. It was a no agenda bonus special just for you.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it was. It worked out.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. So we run this as a value for value podcast, which means we just ask you to give us whatever value you get out of the show. And you can do that with time, talent, or treasure. Now, the artwork, which is part of our value for value operation here, where you people upload art to no Agenda Art generator dot com. And Darren had actually came in late because we produced this well before Sunday. And he had a different piece of art, but this was. I believe there's a story behind it, but I think we got permission from Scott to use art was approved. But wasn't. Wasn't that a comic strip blogger OG piece of art?

[Adam Curry]

It was comic strip blogger. It had different caption.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. And you use Photoshop Old school.

[Adam Curry]

No, I did not. I used that. I used the. My Photoshop on the machine I had was working on.

[John C. Dvorak]

You used the gimp.

[Adam Curry]

No, I didn't. I used the recommended product that was in the tip of the day. If you look back far enough now.

[John C. Dvorak]

What was that?

[Adam Curry]

I had to go look it up, but it's an old, real early tip of the day. It was a photo editor and it. And I could. It had the tool I was looking for, which was to be able to erase a. The problem with erasing a background, you know, erasing some text in the foreground, is if the background background is scaled where it's like dark, you know, lighter. And there's a word for this. It's light at the top and dark at the bottom. If you just black out the. You know, you can't. You. There's. You have to find some way of duplicating that and you. This tool does that. So I could just eliminate the old text and put the new Text in good.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I gave. I gave UNCSB credit for the art.

[Adam Curry]

Sounds right.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm surprised you didn't try it with AI. Hey, AI.

[Adam Curry]

No, I can do it faster without it.

[John C. Dvorak]

AI image exactly the same. Just add the words, farewell, my friend. I bet you AI couldn't do it. Well, I changed it.

[Adam Curry]

Probably could, but it would be the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Background and some other stuff.

[Adam Curry]

It would have. It would have my friends spelled wrong. I mean, there's always something.

[John C. Dvorak]

We always thank everyone who supports the show financially. $50 and above. And in this segment, we thank our. Where we give out credits for each episode, just like Hollywood. In fact, they are recognized by [e-mail], executive producer and associate executive producer credits. Here's how it works. $200 or above, you get a title and a credit of associate executive producer. It's forever for the rest of your life. If anyone ever questions it, we'll be happy to vouch for you. Have we ever had anyone ask for a vouch? Maybe once. I think people don't take this seriously enough.

[Adam Curry]

Well, if they ever do, we'll vouch.

[John C. Dvorak]

We'll vouch. So you get that credit and we will read your note. $300 and above executive producer credit. You can be the envy of your friends and we will also read your note. However, as I look at our list, and this is donations value for value from 1841 and 1842. The first one, right off the bat has no note at all.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I know.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's. It's the best. It's Eric Olsen from.

[Adam Curry]

We'll get a Note from Plano, Texas.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, 1000.

[Adam Curry]

Unless he's a spook. And this is our spook money for the month.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I don't think Eric Olson has been knighted. So do we actually. Do we have him on the. Is he on the list? Let me check. Let me just see. We do have a knight and a dame today. Let me check. We have. Nope. Nope. So he is. If he.

[Adam Curry]

Why don't we just gratuitously put him on the list?

[John C. Dvorak]

No, no, we'll wait because he'll have a night name and he'll have stuff for the round table. He'll come in. So $11,000. Thank you so much, Eric. No note. That means you get a double up karma.

[News Reporter]

You've got double up karma.

[John C. Dvorak]

What? You're just laughing like a. Like a.

[Adam Curry]

No, I'm looking. I'm sorry. We. We didn't go over the art.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's not. There was nothing else to go over.

[Adam Curry]

No, I know But I was looking at the page, and there was a piece. There's a piece coming up that you're gonna crack. Okay, I'm sorry.

[John C. Dvorak]

I was.

[Adam Curry]

I was laughing at this piece. It's hilarious.

[John C. Dvorak]

You're off format, man. We're not doing art.

[Adam Curry]

Jim Bob. Waist up. Next season. Carrie. North Korea, Carolina. And he came with 500 bucks. Want to thank him for that? And he says, sincere apologies for the hiatus. I've been. Been a lot going on. Have a great deal to catch up on with no agenda. Please send all my love to my wife and my best friend, Duchess Marianne Schneeberger. Happy Valentine's Day, darling. It's a Valentine's Day donation, the highest order, 500 bucks.

[John C. Dvorak]

Good for you.

[Adam Curry]

It's a Valentine's Day show today and Sunday, by the way. And Valentine's Day is on Saturday, not Friday, like I said in the newsletter.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, no. Yes.

[Adam Curry]

Wrong.

[John C. Dvorak]

I missed that. Sorry.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. Missed it. I missed a copy edit.

[John C. Dvorak]

I suck.

[Adam Curry]

Without you, he continues. My life would really be a massacre. I don't know what that means, but okay. Wishing you. And now he's switching gears and he's wishing me and Adam the very best. I A Y E Zimbabwe, Proletarian of the Liberated Socialist People's Republic of Woke County, North Carolina.

[John C. Dvorak]

Boom. There you go.

[Adam Curry]

There you go.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. Valentine's Day. Are you celebrating Valentine's Day sometime in April, or do you actually stick to February 14th?

[Adam Curry]

It's nothing to celebrate. It's just when you're. Yes. If you all of a sudden the 10th grade and I was given car charge of the various girls.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let me just give you a tip. Here's a tip. All women. I don't care who they are. All women. Like at least a card or a phone call.

[Adam Curry]

And I, I. Yeah, I always do the phone call.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hey, Happy Valentine's Day. Hey, did you watch Max Velocity?

[Adam Curry]

Okay.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Dame Catherine. She is our crypto granny of Bangkok. Comes in with the Bitcoin. $500 worth, which will be $1,000 next year. This is to thank John for the absolutely fantastic interview with Scott Adams. May his soul fly free. Dame Catherine, Crypto granny of Bangkok.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

Beautiful. It's beautiful.

[Adam Curry]

Sir Guy in Brackley, Northamptonshire, UK 333.33 Treasure for your Time and talent. Sergio Ghee.

[John C. Dvorak]

There you go.

[Adam Curry]

Is in clarified butter.

[John C. Dvorak]

Alec Hartman, Spring, Texas. Ah, the Texans are out. I love the Texans. $333.33 ITM fellas. Longtime douchebag. First time donor. Well, I guess. Oh, yeah. He wants a Deduching. Yes.

[News Reporter]

You've been de douched, John.

[John C. Dvorak]

Keep the tick tock clips coming. Thank you both for your comments. Courage. And here's his Valentine's Day ad. All right. Single, unmarried and childless ladies in the Woodlands and greater Houston, Texas area. I am a single, unmarried and childless 32 year old man seeking a like minded woman with Christian values. You gotta have the three sixes, man. Six packs, six figures, six feet tall. I live an intentionally slow paced life. I enjoy working hard in my career and at the gym. Oh, there you go. I thrive when I'm able to rest, spend my time with family and indulge in unstructured leisure time. I'm thinking skiing. I'm looking for a long term partner to share in my joie de vivre with the hope of getting hitched and making a family of our own down the road. If you're interested in grabbing a drink, going out for a fun brunch date or wandering around a museum together, you can find [e-mail] Once again, that's noagendasoulmatesmail.com no jingles, just karma and deduching. Please. Which I gave you. Happy Valentine's Day. Peace be with you all. Well, we got the karma for you.

[Adam Curry]

Where's he located?

[John C. Dvorak]

Karma In Spring, Texas. Which is so the Woodlands is.

[Adam Curry]

Texas is loaded with gals.

[John C. Dvorak]

The Woodlands is a. It's a classy area. That's people with money live in the Woodlands. So I'm just saying, ladies. Just saying.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, sir. Hair heel and White Salmon, WA 333.33 Jobs Karma really works. Starting the new job in a couple of weeks and sharing some of the spoils. And around a jobs karma he wants and cancer karma to share with anyone who needs them.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, f cancer karma, obviously. Jobs.

[Adam Curry]

What did I say?

[John C. Dvorak]

You said cancer karma.

[News Reporter]

Jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma.

[Adam Curry]

And before you read the next note, I will mention they got kicked back by the bank.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, this. This donation from Bob.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, because the bank all of a sudden, because of their new service agreements with whoever they're doing this with, won't take Canadian checks.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, that's an outright outrage.

[Adam Curry]

That's what I say. I'm going to get a hold of the CEO of the bank and complain about this.

[John C. Dvorak]

Weren't they bought by some big Dutch bank?

[Adam Curry]

No, no, no. They've been buying banks.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, well, yes. And I want you to record this and we'll air this interview. It's an Outrage. We promote checks.

[Adam Curry]

We do promote checks. I mean, I don't want to tell Bob he has to send his, you know, go back to stripers.

[John C. Dvorak]

Bitcoin, PayPal, Bitcoin.

[Adam Curry]

You could do that.

[John C. Dvorak]

That too. Bob stanhope sends us $333.33. He says, Greetings from Grand Forks, British Columbia, Canada, land of the free. Keeping it old school with a note and a check while we still can. Well, There you go.

[Adam Curry]

333 is actually less than 250.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah, it's like 50 bucks, but doesn't matter.

[Adam Curry]

No. Well.

[John C. Dvorak]

It'S been over a year since my last donation. Please accept this humble token of appreciation. The amount of 333.33 for a job. We love the show. Best podcast in the universe, without a doubt. No jingles. Good karma for all. Adam, keep the faith, literally and figuratively. John, keep it crusty and real. We love it. Stay dangerous, men. We appreciate the effort. Bob Stanhope, a bike riding guy in the boundary.

[News Reporter]

You've got karma.

[Adam Curry]

Now we come to Harry King clan in Alido, Alido, Texas, who also writes in a note, handwritten note, Adam and John, $300. He says, hello. I decided to kick off 2026 as both an executive producer and a knight of the no Agenda roundtable. I think he's on the list.

[John C. Dvorak]

He is.

[Adam Curry]

This donation puts me over the top for knighthood accounting. Attached. I stopped watching TV news and reading physical newspapers more than 30 years ago. Since 2009, the no Agenda podcast has been my source for news and more importantly, media deconstruction. Can I just two of you, Can.

[John C. Dvorak]

I just say something here? More and more people email me and say, you know, I stopped following news. I don't watch, you know, stuff on Instagram or X or I just stopped it. I find that the Noah just to show will give me the stuff that's at the top, the top of, you know, the cream of the crop. And we, you know, we dig down under to bring up the nasty stuff to show you what it's really all about. And they feel informed and happy, happy with their lives, I tell you. And I think that's a very good way to.

[Adam Curry]

Distracted by the propagandists.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

Which we, we're not working for anybody to do that stuff.

[John C. Dvorak]

And they whistle and laugh a lot because they hear racist media. Then they go, okay, I know better than you. I know what's really going on.

[Adam Curry]

Midterms, he continues, the two of you are national treasures and I'm honored to be a citizen of Gitmo Nation. A producer of the best podcast in the universe. Four more years. Sincerely, Henry Harry Clan. He's also Sir Sauerkraut of the North Texas Anitas. What does that mean? Is there something, what's an Anita? What's in Texas Anita?

[John C. Dvorak]

It's probably something, some snack, I don't know.

[Adam Curry]

And by the way, the word editor calculated my note to be just 115 words. John Smiley face.

[John C. Dvorak]

Beautiful. Sean Homan, Noblesville, Indiana. Not new to the donation list. $219.11. Get it? 1911. Because stealth arms has a new pistol out. Check it out@stealth arms.net by the way. It has been acclaimed as the best competition pistol under $2,500 and takes Glock mags. The stacked Glock mags. I actually shot my platypus from Stealth Arms the other day and it jammed. I'd never shot it. Yeah, it jammed right out of the gate. Yeah, it was, yeah, it shot really well, but it jammed right out of the gate. So, but that is not to say.

[Adam Curry]

So you cleared the jam and it shot fine.

[John C. Dvorak]

Of course, of course it could have been the ammo, but I, I, I mean, I, I presumed it was oiled enough. It was new in the box. I didn't figure I'd have to do anything with it. Maybe that, maybe that was my mistake. I don't know.

[Adam Curry]

But the BO Shield T9 would do.

[John C. Dvorak]

Good question.

[Adam Curry]

All right, where are we? We're at Sir Johnny b. In Brockport, New York 214 26. My beautiful wife, Dame Polly of 24 year 2 14. That is the. And we have two of them today.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, that's a Valentine's Day donation.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, official Valentine's Day donation. My beautiful wife, Dame Paulie of 24 years. Looking forward to the, to the rest of them. The rest of them. The years, I guess, Sir. Love, Sir Johnny B.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, wonderful, Sir Dr. Sharkey, St. Peter's Missouri. 214 26. There's a. Our second of only two Valentine's Day donations. I dedicate this to my two grand human resources love, Paw Paw. Sir Dr. Sharkey, Duke and Secretary General of FEMA Region 4 and 7.

[Adam Curry]

And there we go on to Juneonymous in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. 21060 Juneonymous emailed Adam again regarding Tel Aviv. Anonymous June, anonymous donation. I got something, I got his email.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know, so I said we're doing it. We're going to go to Israel the end of the month, beginning of March. And I will be doing some shows from Israel. Gonna go pick up some Jew Money, get the Mossad money, get the shekels.

[Adam Curry]

We need the bead money. Where are those guys?

[John C. Dvorak]

And he, and he sent me a. A long list of stuff to do in Tel Aviv, which I appreciate that, thank you.

[Adam Curry]

And he says, anonymous, anonymous, unanimous donation. Bring out my brethren, the shape shifting Jews for my knighthood. In other words, he wants that clip night name circumcision. And you get a circumcision and you get a circumcision and you. Oh, I get it.

[John C. Dvorak]

He's doing Oprah.

[Adam Curry]

You get a circumcision and you get a circumcision.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right, we get it now.

[Adam Curry]

There we go.

[John C. Dvorak]

Step up. Roll on for the shape shifting Jews. Gotta love the trolls. All the gay bars in Tel Aviv are on alert. Adam's coming. All right, very funny. Very funny. Funny, funny trolls. Very funny turtles. Robert Ludwig. Nevada, Iowa. Nevada, Iowa. 207 and 20 cents. And he has no note, so he receives a double up. Karma.

[Adam Curry]

You've got.

[News Reporter]

Karma.

[Adam Curry]

Ah, here we go. Bensonville, Illinois. We got Eli the coffee guy. 20208. I had an impromptu meet up on Saturday with Darren.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh wow.

[Adam Curry]

The host of the rock and roll pre show and Planet Rage. Stop by one of our brewery marketing events or market events.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, he was trolling for free coffee.

[Adam Curry]

Of course he was. Thank you Adam and John for connecting all of us producers. I met some of the very fine, some very fine people over the years, both online and in person thanks to no Agenda. I've also been blessed to share our coffee with people all over Gitmo Nation. VisitGiveGawat Coffee Grocers.com use code ITM20 and sharing the joy of great coffee today. Stay caffeinated. Eli the coffee guy should mention he also sent me a separate note because he's sending me some. Some more coffee demanding that I stop playing as opposed to the other producer. He, Eli's demanded I stop playing the tick tock clips.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh.

[Adam Curry]

And so I'm agreeing to not play a tick tock clip for one show for every bag of coffee. Wow, that's a good so today. So. So the next three shows I'm getting no pilot on.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right, well there you go. Mike Duffy Blenheim in New Zealand. $200.51 of these. Oh, so that is. Oh, he, he's. That's a 333. 33 New Zealand dollary dues. So we will give it. We will put him up in the. Wow. Yeah, we will put him up in the. That's quite the exchange rate, isn't it $200.51. Love the show business karma. Please. Flora's hot Dogs, Blenheim, New Zealand. The best hot dogs in the the universe. Well, can he send those? I'd love to try some. Can we. Can you. Can you get them across country lines?

[Adam Curry]

Sending me. Sending me Customs is very difficult.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, anyway, Flora's hot Dogs, Blenheim, New Zealand. Here's your business karma.

[News Reporter]

You've got karma.

[Adam Curry]

Sir Gooch in Boonsboro, Maryland. 200 as a birthday switcheroo for monkey boy in Indianapolis. We can no longer be friends in good conscience without getting him a de douching. Yes, you've been de douched. Sign Sir Gooch in Maryland.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, was that it? Was that it?

[Adam Curry]

I'm sorry, that's it. All there is.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, hold on a second. I was getting something ready here because we have a switcheroo and is this from the indie no agenda raffle in Green Greenwood? But it's a switcheroo for Annette Miller. Now, Annette also does the meetup report, so we have one from them from their most recent one. She says ITM John and Adam, thank you both for being a constant source of insight and sanity in this crazy world. Shout out to sir Ryan, who led me down the no agenda rabbit hole. And to the indie meetup crew for always being great company there. Can I please get a Fear is freedom followed by a boogity boogie? Yes, I have a boogity boogity for you. Amen. Yes. Thank you very much, says Annette Miller. And Annette, thank you for always sending the fantastic meetup reports from Indy. Fear is freedom. Subjugation is liberation. Contradiction is truth.

[News Reporter]

Those are the facts of this world.

[John C. Dvorak]

And you will all surrender to them. You pig in human clothing. Boom. There we go.

[Adam Curry]

Lindy Lou Patkins up. She's in Castle Rock, Colorado. $200. You do have the best producers in the universe. Shout out to gigawatt Coffee. Oh, brother.

[John C. Dvorak]

I love this. It's beautiful. I love it. Love it when they shout out to.

[Adam Curry]

Gigawatt coffee and little John's kids candies. Their coffee and toffee is fantastic. Now this for a competitive edge that gets with a resume that gets results. And by the way, she wants jobs, karma, but she didn't mention it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, we know what she she deserves it.

[Adam Curry]

For a competitive edge with a resume that gets results, go to ImageMakers Inc.com Linda applies executive level positioning to her career transitions at every stage. That's image makers Inc. With a K. And work with Linda Lou, duchess of jobs, writer of winning resumes. Jobs, Karma, please. Oh, she does mention it at the end. Best, Linda.

[News Reporter]

Jobs, Jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma.

[John C. Dvorak]

Alrighty, that wraps up our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1842 of the Best podcast in the universe. We thank you all very much. We will be thanking the rest of our supporters. $50 and above in our second segment. Again, these are real credits and anybody can get one of them by going to noagendadonations.com making a donation. You can even set up a sustaining donation if you want. If you have a sustaining donation, we recommend you check it because these things do expire from time to time and PayPal and Stripe probably won't let you know about it. So snowedgendonations.com anytime, any frequency. And thank you again to this executive and association and executive producers.

[Adam Curry]

Our formula is this.

[John C. Dvorak]

We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Shut up, slave.

[Adam Curry]

Shut up, slave.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I fixed it. Fixed all those problems we were having with the we are on the people's operating System. John, I'm so happy. I'm so proud.

[Adam Curry]

But what'd you fix? It was fine last time.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, remember the New World Order wouldn't.

[Adam Curry]

Play and they're all, oh, that's right.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, the cartwheel was broke, man. But I fixed it. I fixed it. I figured it out. You know, it was a very simple fix and then the AI like recreated the whole thing and then it broke a whole bunch of other things. I said, you broke this. Okay, fix. You broke that fix. Okay. And then it made the sliders a whole different, different color for no reason.

[Adam Curry]

Out of the blue.

[John C. Dvorak]

And they look cute because has a little metallic finish to it, like, oh, that's cool. But I didn't ask for it. These are the things that are annoying. Just a little bit annoying. There you go. Hey. There was rather big news in the climate change arena as President Trump, I think it's happening today, will be revoking the Environmental Protection Agency's authority to regulate carbon emissions by taking it off the list of things that are dangerous to your health. CO2 in particular, they say carbon emissions, but it's CO2, which is a life giving force. But was that during Obama, when did it. Well, maybe it's in this report. Here's cbs.

[News Reporter]

The Trump administration is preparing what environmental experts are calling one of the most sweeping regulatory rollbacks in modern history. Rollback plans to revoke the EPA's legal authority to regulate carbon emissions on Thursday.

[John C. Dvorak]

That, that's, that's the tricky bit. They Say carbon emissions. No, it's not carbon emissions. It is specifically carbon dioxide. You see what they're doing there? Because when they say.

[Adam Curry]

But they've been doing this for the length of the entire era of our show.

[John C. Dvorak]

Correct.

[News Reporter]

EPA's legal authority to regulate carbon emissions on Thursday, if it's withdrawn, it could upend decades of US Climate policy. CBS News national environmental correspondent David Schechter joins us now. David, we're talking about something called endangerment finding. Why does that matter?

[John C. Dvorak]

It's kind of a bulky term, but it actually has incredible significance when it comes to environmental regulation. It basically says that it finds that the emissions from our tailpipes and stuff that create carbon dioxide, that that is a pollutant, and that pollutant can be regulated by the United States government. So it is the underpinning of all the federal policy as it relates to trying to get a handle on climate, climate change. And by revoking that or essentially not enforcing that rule anymore, that would mean that things like our tailpipe emissions that.

[News Reporter]

Come out of our vehicles that the.

[John C. Dvorak]

Government is very involved in regulating, all of a sudden, they wouldn't regulate that anymore. That is up to 20% of our carbon emissions in this country comes from that source which the Trump administration says we're no longer going to regulate. Notice they, they just take you straight to the dirty, dirty tailpipes, not to the cow farts, the cow burps.

[Adam Curry]

Well, actually, the beginning, when he said. I tried to interrupt it. I don't know what he made. You didn't hear?

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't hear you.

[Adam Curry]

He said the tailpipe emissions, which form carbon dioxide. What? He said?

[John C. Dvorak]

He said which form carbon dioxide.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, Very early in the clip.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm sorry, I missed that. Well, it's bogus, but that's cbs. Barry Weiss, everybody.

[News Reporter]

Weiss. Why is he doing this?

[John C. Dvorak]

Why is he doing this? What could it possibly be? Because it's a hoax. Yes.

[Adam Curry]

You know, there's been a bunch of. I don't have any of the clips. I suppose I could. I'm going to get some now. I'm going to start collecting them. There's more and more and more clips coming on Twitter and TikTok and elsewhere about CBS's skewed reporting. It's getting worse, not better. Under Bear Weiss.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. I mean, this doesn't seem like it. This is certainly not pro Trump. And it's. We were here when the IPCC first came out. We were here with the whole scandal. Remember the climate change papers?

[Adam Curry]

What was that called climate gate. Climate jingle.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, man. We got the climate.

[Adam Curry]

To the gate. To the gate. To the climate gate.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Hold on a second. For some reason my keyboard is doubling keys, which is not good. Here we go. Yeah, we. And was the. The climate gate. The papers. It was all. They were. They were telling each other just use this hockey stick. I am paranoid.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah, they were. They were both. They were faking phoning up numbers. Well, it doesn't work, so let's use these numbers instead. They were making stuff up as they go along. It was a huge setback for the old the hood entire scam. And it finally kind of blew over after a decade.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, they. Because they just kept saying it's not true. Know what you're talking about. Andrew. Andrew. His name was this guy, Andrew Climbegate. Andrew. Can't remember. And then it was the consensus model. 97% of scientists agree. And it was. It was one survey. It was 97% of climate scientists. Scientists. It wasn't all scientists, but it was.

[Adam Curry]

90% of climate scientists who believed in climate change.

[John C. Dvorak]

Climate change, Global warming at the time. Global warming. Global warming. And then we had to switch the climate change because. And, and in the beginning was like, weather's not climate. Weather's not climate. Because we were like, it's really chilly for this global warming. Weather's not climate. And then we got climate change out. Extreme weather event in our lifetime, in the lifetime of this show, this hoax.

[News Reporter]

Why is he doing this?

[John C. Dvorak]

I think that you hear in the Trump administration of obviously a very strong need to. A strong desire to deregulate that regulations are onerous on businesses, cost them a lot of money and therefore cost consumers.

[Adam Curry]

A lot of money.

[John C. Dvorak]

We did hear today from Caroline Lovett, his press secretary, that he's going to announce this on Thursday. And it sounds like it's also being framed in the affordability sort of argument that we're hearing from the White House that by doing this they're saying they will save consumers a lot of money on the cost of a new car and other things. That is deeply contested that in fact the more we release carbon dioxide, the more costs we incur from fires and fires and droughts. But here they get the more carbon dioxide. The more we release carbon dioxide, the more costs we incur from fires and fires and droughts and floods and things like that. Fires and droughts and floods.

[Adam Curry]

Droughts are caused by carbon dioxide and lions and targets. Oh, my. Floods and droughts. Floods and droughts.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh. But what are the scientists say about this?

[News Reporter]

What Are environmental advocates saying about this expected rollback?

[John C. Dvorak]

I heard today from the Union of Concerned Scientists. They said the union, Union of Concerned Scientists.

[Adam Curry]

Hey, you know what? They're concerned.

[John C. Dvorak]

I want to know how I can join Union of Concerned Scientists. They said that this is a chainsaw taken to science based policy, saying that it's done at the behest of the polluters, the oil companies and the advocates. These nonprofits that are in the environmental space are just lining up to sue the Trump administration administration when this announcement is made. So you can expect that that lawsuit could go on for a long time. But the question is, will the administration just start to not enforce these rules right away regardless of what the lawsuits say? Yes, it's already happening and it will lower energy prices. Of course it's all going to be for the data centers, but it won't.

[Adam Curry]

Lower energy prices out here. California?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, no, it's California. It's all about the coal.

[News Reporter]

This crowd of coal miners made an enthusiastic audience for Donald Trump as he announced his pro fossil fuel agenda on Wednesday. The President said that the U.S. army will in future give priority to electricity derived from coal.

[Adam Curry]

Clean, beautiful coal. Clean, beautiful coal. We're going to be buying a lot of coal through the military now and it's going to be less expensive and actually much more effective than what we have been using for many, many years.

[John C. Dvorak]

What?

[Adam Curry]

What? Wait.

[News Reporter]

Trump has done everything in his power to relaunch the coal industry, providing financial support to plants which may otherwise have closed and in April, rolling back some regulations.

[Adam Curry]

We're going to be crushing Biden era environmental restrictions. These are restrictions that made it impact, impossible, impossible to do anything having to do, frankly with energy, even beyond coal.

[News Reporter]

Trump says coal should be used to power the energy hungry data centers used by artificial intelligence models. His agenda is a reversal of previous Trends in the US in 2023, coal made up 16% of total energy production, down from 50% in the year 2000. The polluting for fossil fuel has been gradually replaced by renewable energy forms which according to scientific consensus are better for the environment and can be less expensive to produce.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. France 24. I'm bored with it. You know how it ends. I just want to play two short clips because we always like to follow the words like carbon emissions when it's really about carbon dioxide.

[Adam Curry]

And this is regarding plants need to survive. Survive.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's life force itself. This is a narrative that you will notice changing once you hear it. You can't unhear it. This quick clip, 15 seconds came from CNN. I believe this lady was a protester against ICE and she caught herself because she has been given new directive, new words to use which have been adopted by the mainstream media. The M5M.

[News Reporter]

There was probably four people that were at one point in time following. I shouldn't say following. I should say commuting. Sounds much better than following.

[Adam Curry]

We were commuting.

[John C. Dvorak]

You guys try to stay away from that language these days. Yes. So you don't want to say if you're following ice, you're just commuting. You see, you're commuting. Here's npr. I think they had a take on it.

[Adam Curry]

It was the one month anniversary of the death of Renee Good who was shot while slowly driving away from immigration officers.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, there you go. This, there's your mainstream media. There it is. Slowly driving away. Commuting. It's all, it's all so bad.

[Adam Curry]

I love these guys.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's all so bad. You know, you may have a clip. There was just one. I'll save it for, for Sunday. I got a great gen Zed email, but I'll save it, I'll save it for. Because some, some gen zers think that when we laugh about Florida ounces and stuff that we think they're morons. No, some are like all categories of people. There's some very specific ones. But when I hear about, you know, gen zeds who are first of all listening to the show, to the show of since 2019. Love, love the concept of a sock hop and, and have a vocation, you know, we, we have a lot of hope in Gen Z. We are here to in fact help educate you on the things you need you don't know about and to set you up for success.

[Adam Curry]

To help educate them on the things that they're kept away from.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, yes, yes. Obfuscated from them. Exactly. Exactly.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right.

[Adam Curry]

They've got to, they've come to the right place. And we're not mocking, we are mocking the ones that don't that are, you know, they're, they know who, they're included and they know the dummies out there there, you know who you are, friends.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know who you are.

[Adam Curry]

A couple random clips. I thought this, the jet fuel Cuba thing should be mentioned. I think this is kind of interesting.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

Because I have a question about it.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right, here we go.

[News Reporter]

Cuba is warning international airlines that jet fuel will no longer be available on the island starting today. It's the latest sign of worsening conditions as the US is cutting off the cost communist run nation's oil supply. NTD's international correspondent Arian Posdar.

[John C. Dvorak]

Cuba is issuing a notice to airlines saying jet fuel is no longer available on the island. The nation is implementing a fuel rationing plan as the US Is cutting off the communist run nation's oil supply. Urgent measures must be taken because people who are going to travel far away, if there is no fuel, I don't know if their flights will be canceled. Cuba has historically relied on Venezuela to provide most of its jet fuel.

[Adam Curry]

But the nation has not received any.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oil from its top ally since mid December, when the US Moved to block the South American nation's exports. In late January, President Trump signed an executive order to impose a tariff on countries that sell or provide oil to Cuba. On Monday, Mexican President Claudia Scheinbaum confirmed that oil shipments from Mexico to Cuba have been halted, but she says Mexico still seeks to support the people of Cuba. Two vessels carrying around 800 tons of humanitarian aid departed Mexico on Sunday to support the island.

[News Reporter]

We're going to help the people of Cuba as we've always helped at any time, peoples who need it. And now food was sent mainly, and more is going to be sent.

[John C. Dvorak]

The fuel shortage is strongly affecting everyday life. Life in Cuba, Congresswoman Maria Salazar warns, do not travel to Cuba. Oops, sorry. Medicine only blackouts, hunger and repression. Don't risk your safety. A regime in its final hours is unpredictable and dangerous. All right, what's your question?

[Adam Curry]

Well, the regimen is fine. What do we got against Cuba that we're taking such extreme steps here? Because it's never explained. Somebody brought it up on one of these talk shows and said, what's, what's this, our thing with Cuba? They haven't attacked us. They haven't done anything. They're just sitting there, you know, languishing, basically. So what's the big deal? I have to say there's something we're not being told about. It's got to be, and I think it's China. I think China is. We've talked about it before. Yep, some years ago. They're going to try to put up bases, monitoring bases. China's been trying to establish those in Cuba. And for some reason, this information is being. Being now not discussed at all. There's something up.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, since you're on oil and other countries, I have a question for you regarding this.

[News Reporter]

Bloomberg reports that for the first time in years, Venezuela is sending its first crude oil shipment to Israel. That shipment comes just under a month after the US Captured the country's former leader, Nicholas Maduro. Since Maduro's takedown at the the subsequent US Takeover of Venezuela's oil sales. Brent and crude have been on a tear. Brent crude up 10 and a quarter percent, while West Texas Intermediate up 9%. The oil shipment to Israel comes just as Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu flies to Washington for a meeting with President Trump tomorrow in a bid to influence US Nuclear talks with Iran. This meeting comes also amid heightening Iranian threats about the Strait of Hormuz. It's that important choke point for the world's crucial oil transfer.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now, here's my question. Does Israel have refining capability for oil?

[Adam Curry]

Not that I know of.

[John C. Dvorak]

Iranian oil. I mean, Venezuelan oil. This makes no sense to me.

[Adam Curry]

It makes no sense to me either because Venezuelan oil is a very specific heavy crude that has a lot of, you know, it has a lot of things you can do with it, mainly asphalt that you can get out of there and has other properties that are unusual. And you take special specialized refineries which we have. China has. There's other. They're around here.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think this is bull crap.

[Adam Curry]

It sounds like bull crap to me. What, what are they going to do with the crude? Are they going to use it for.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know.

[Adam Curry]

I mean, what would they use it for? I mean, they don't have refineries in Israel that I know of. They. Maybe they. There is one, but this. Because the robot. If there's a refinery in Israel, I.

[John C. Dvorak]

Don'T have the robot queued up.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, because the robot doesn't speak in Linux now.

[John C. Dvorak]

The robot speaks Linux just fine. I forgot to set her up. But, but the point. Because people are posting this on X. Like, I bet they won't talk about this. Like, yeah, we will. Because I don't get it. It makes no, no sense. I mean, we, America, America, we are the. We are the. We are the ones who know this stuff. We understand. We understand crude oil from Venezuela. Let me ask the robot. Let me see. Well, this. Oh, the robot. All of a sudden this is talking to me in Dutch. This is interesting. Okay, wow. Why does.

[Adam Curry]

Talk to it in Dutch? You can speak Dutch. Ask it in Dutch. See what it says.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hold on, I just, I just want to get it an answer. Hold on a second. This will be the. This is the Grok bot. I don't have the Grok bot.

[Adam Curry]

Well, Grok is. I like Grok.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, but what is this thing is Chat. Chat. Here we go. Chat. Okay. Does Israel. Yes, allow. Does Israel have refineries that can handle Venezuelan oil?

[News Reporter]

Israel does have refineries. Like the one In Haifa, run by Bazaar, it can process heavy crude oil, which Venezuelan oil tends to be stuff like Mary, that's high in sulfur and needs specific handling. But they've been picky lately due to quality issues and geopolitics. From what I know up to my cutoff, Israel hasn't imported Venezuelan oil since sanctions kicked in around 2018. And even before that, it wasn't a big deal. They'd need upgrades or blending to make it work smoothly.

[Adam Curry]

Now, there you go.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's interesting.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, so Haifa, which is up. I think north.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

Is. Yeah, that'd be a place for it. On the, on the water there, they got a coastal. You need access to the water so you can bring the tankers in, obviously.

[John C. Dvorak]

So have they upgraded? Have they upgraded to. To do this? I guess.

[Adam Curry]

I think you can blend back this stuff that people have talked about that mix it with something else.

[John C. Dvorak]

Look, it's obvious. Mossad controlling Trump. That's why he had to send some Venezuelan oil to Israel. Just so you know, that is what's going on here.

[Adam Curry]

You know, some of these refineries, I mean refineries are designed around the crude oil. Generally, there's. There's general purpose refineries that can handle everything. And they. They're built there when they're huge. And. And then some refineries are specific to, you know, they. They just specialize in certain kinds of oil because they. They're good at it. And if you got a thing that can take sulfur out and handle all the heavy stuff and has the catalytic cracking and all the rest of it, that you. You need that oil to keep things going properly.

[John C. Dvorak]

Here's another question. How much did Israel pay the United States for this? Crude oil?

[News Reporter]

In a perfect world, trade's about fair deals. No one's getting handouts. But geopolitics, that's messier. If Israel's buying Venezuela, Venezuelan crude rerouted.

[John C. Dvorak]

Through the US you don't have an answer. Shut up.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, doesn't have any bad living.

[John C. Dvorak]

I want a price. I want to ask. She's freewheeling.

[Adam Curry]

It's going on and on.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right, you got a final clip you want to play or what do you want?

[Adam Curry]

Well, let's see. I can. I can come up with a shorty here, I think. Well, the Canadian bridge stories should be. At least we can catch up on this. Yes, it's kind of interesting.

[John C. Dvorak]

You've been listening.

[Adam Curry]

You're not letting a bridge. You got a bridge, then they're worked. And Trump doesn't want the bridge to work.

[News Reporter]

Canada reels from one of the worst mass shootings in its history. Police named the suspect as 18 year old Jesse. Eight people were killed.

[Adam Curry]

You're playing.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm playing Trans. I'm sorry. It's the.

[Adam Curry]

No, no. Canada Bridge.

[John C. Dvorak]

I saw it. Yes. I thought it was all BBC, but it's ntd. It's my mistake. The Trans bridge is the problem.

[News Reporter]

President threatening to block the opening of a bridge connecting the US and Canada as he warns Ottawa of cozying up to the Chinese regime. We now go live to NTD's Washington correspondent Mario Tsu at the White House. Mari, Good evening. President Trump threatens to block the opening of a bridge between the US and Canada unless Ottawa negotiates with Washington on tariffs and the exclusion of American products. He accuses Canada of taking advantage of the US with unfair trade practices and cozying up to the Chinese regime. The fact that Canada, Canada will control what crosses the Gordie Howe Bridge and owns the land on both sides is unacceptable to the President. It's also unacceptable that more of this bridge isn't being built with more American made materials. Even more so than what President Barack Obama committed to with the Canadians at the time at the start of the project.

[Adam Curry]

Canada gets a lot of freebies from us by the way. They should be grateful also. But they're not. Canada lives because of the United States.

[News Reporter]

Canada's Prime Minister Mark Carney says he's spoken with President Trump after the president issued that threat and president that the the situation will be resolved although he didn't give further details. And this is coming just a couple of weeks after President Trump threatened 100% tariffs on Canada if they made a deal with the Chinese regime. Tiff back to you.

[John C. Dvorak]

Is that true? Does Canada own the land on both sides of the bridge?

[Adam Curry]

Doesn't make any sense.

[John C. Dvorak]

I thought Michigan owned the land on one side. This is, this is just another like Greenland thing.

[Adam Curry]

Screwy about this story.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well I, I, I agree. I mean you know, Canada needs to pay us no matter what. Just pay us just because Trump says so. Pay us. It's our, you know, it's our country.

[Adam Curry]

But obviously they're not going to build a bridge that crosses the border there and just let it sit empty. You can't do that. That so because there's always a already a jam up on that bridge in Windsor.

[John C. Dvorak]

There's got to be something else behind.

[Adam Curry]

There's something else going on. We don't get told enough stuff. I'm gonna show my support by donating to no Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that?

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.

[Adam Curry]

Well, you don't get told enough stuff. We do have a few people to thank for show 1841 and 1842. And Adam will read them off. These are the people that donated $50 and above.

[John C. Dvorak]

Dame Rita comes in from Sparks, Nevada with $162.14. I see the 2.14. I guess that's Valentine's. Itm. John, thank you for your courage. Yes. Eric Bleszinski, Midlothian, VA. 149.99. Great interview with Scott Adams. John is a master interviewer.

[Adam Curry]

Geek.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know about that. You sounded very light. You sounded like you didn't have your normal heavy, heavy processing that. I give you the big balls. Geek Rolling.

[Adam Curry]

I could have corrected that. I just didn't do it.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Lazy geek. Rolling. Pasadena, California. 144. Michael Shelton, Hannibal, New York. 125. Russell Rhodes in Tallahassee, Florida. 12-345- we see what you did. Same thing for sir slickwater of the Mississippi. 12345. And Ashley Otto, Austrian. There we go. In Flower Mound, Texas. Also. 123.45. Christopher Ebert, Spartanburg, South Carolina. 10535. Stefan Trokels. Trokels from Seuss in Deutschland sent in two. Thank you for each episode. $100, $0.01 and $100.

[Adam Curry]

Let's boost him to associate executive producer.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, I agree. That is correct. Let me just mark that on my spreadsheet. Craig Martin, Homer, Alaska. 100. Charles Meebok in Wontag, New Jersey. 8,835. Kev McLaughlin comes in twice for both shows with a boob donation. 80.08. And he's the Archduke of Luna, lover of America and boobs. His first one is God Bless America and Valentine Sweater Puppies. And he says, ladies, wishing you all the breast. Christopher Baylor, Grafton, Wisconsin. 7777. Joel Van Dyck. I'm 34 on Valentine's. It's so nature's my gift to myself. Thank you for your courage. Value returned. Yes, we shall mention you on the list. Gwen Sabiski, Kettering, Ohio. 67. Chad Hewitt, Folsom, California. 6640. Stephen Shoemake in Xenia, Ohio. 6480. David Cox, Austin, Texas. 63/ Quarter. School of Podcasting. Hey, the School of Podcasting. Is that Dave? It must be Dave from the School of podcasting. Akron, Ohio. 61. Thank you, Dave. Lawrence, Allah in Cochrane, Minnesota. 58. Timothy Tillman from Mechanicsville, Virginia 5683. And then we go to Christina Henry. Ah, she's a dame. Deputy, Indiana. This little 55.95, which it is. And my measly little monthly donation gets me to baronetta status and lets me wish Charlie a happy for 50th birthday. Charlie Jones, 50 on Friday the 13th. He finally caught up to me in the 50s. And they're both lovely people. Christine Hines, Manchester, New Hampshire. 55. 55. Rick LeBlanca in Hope, Rhode Island. We don't get a lot from Rhode Island. 5432. And here we have Brittany Miller from Trinidad, Colorado. And it's blue, which means she's got something coming up here. Itm John and Adam. Apparently as of January 7th, I'm a Dame. The layaway plan works. My smoking hot husband hit me in the mouth a few years ago on a road trip where I was a captive audience. To be honest, I only agreed to listen because I am a child of the 80s, 80s and 90s. MTV. Thanks for teaching me not to believe everything I read. Hey, it's good for something. You know what I'm. What I'm gonna say. You know what I'm saying here, hold on. She wants some jingles here. My keyboard is doubling. Is doubling letters. Have you ever had that?

[Adam Curry]

This is Linux doubling your value.

[John C. Dvorak]

Let me see. Kamala, it's. Yeah, it's doing like bounce.

[Adam Curry]

Auto bounce.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's so weird. Hmm. I'm not sure why it's doing the auto bounce. Anyway, thanks for teaching me not to believe everything I read. I love a Publix sub and Diet Coke at the round table. I have to order that. I haven't even put that in yet. Can you guys still take care of that public sub and Diet Coke? Yeah. Wow. I am. Do you think that is Linux? That Linux is doubling up on this stuff?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it's your. It's your. It's the sense of humor that the AI has.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hey, watch this. Jingles, please. Kamala, don't come. Trump. I'm gonna come. Thanks. Dame Brittany, Trinidad, Colorado.

[News Reporter]

Do not come.

[Adam Curry]

I'm gonna come.

[John C. Dvorak]

There you go. Bradley Bowman in Duluth, Minnesota. 5218. Sir GK in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Sir GK here. Turn 51 on February 8th. Please add me to the birthday list. Yeah, of course we couldn't do you on the last show, but you're on it for today. The librarian in San Francisco, California. 5150 from the Librarian, Mike Vaughn, Village of Clarkston, Michigan. Birthday shout out to human resource number one Lucas born on 2725 and wants some baby making karma and we'll give you that at the end. Love to do that for you. Josiah Thomas, Ankeny, IA 51 Bad Idea Supply There they Bad idea Supply in where's bad idea supply?

[Adam Curry]

It's in the Midwest someplace. Look them up on the Internet. Bad Idea supply they big burning gear.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes. For burners or just burning gear for.

[Adam Curry]

Fun stuff like you know, burn barrel, professional grade burn barrel kind of things.

[John C. Dvorak]

Things you can burn with Viscounts are economic hitman in Tomball, Texas $50 one penny. These are the 50s as we roll to them. Now we've got Stephen Ray Spok, Edward Mazurek, Memphis, Tennessee Lee Harwood in Melbourne, Victoria Joy Padilla in South San Francisco, Rene Kinnecher in Utrecht, Roderick Brown in Mermaid Prince Edward island in Canada. I knew I'd get it. And there's Stephen Shoemake again from Xenia, Ohio with 50. Thank you Stephen. Tim Delbecchio, Blandon, Pennsylvania Gary Mao in Woodland Hills, California Carrie Jackson, Watertown, Tennessee High Hawker in Higginsville, Missouri. And rounding out our list of 50s is Ox Othericks in Buffalo, New York. We thank all of these supporters $50.00 and above very much for your support of the best podcasts in the universe. Here's that baby making karma as requested.

[News Reporter]

You'Ve.

[John C. Dvorak]

Got.

[News Reporter]

Parma.

[John C. Dvorak]

Beautiful. And we do have quite a number of fun things to take care of today on the list, including that beautiful meetup report. But again, thanks to these supporters and our executive and associate executive producers, set up a value for value donation. Go to noagendadonations.com Send us whatever value you got out of the podcast. That's all we ask for. Do it as frequently as you want for any amount with a sustaining donation. Noagendadonations.com. And so here's our list. Mike Vaughn Happy birthday to his human resource number one, Lucas, who turned one on February 7th. Joe wishes the Baron of Old Bay a happy birthday. 59 on February 8th. Sir Gooch Monkey Boy, happy birthday for him February 8th. Sir GK turns 51 on February 8th. Dame Catherine wishes her late husband Bill Walsh, aka Sir Saturday Night a very happy birthday. He would have been 45 on February 8th. I have a note to read from her later. Kevin McKenna wishes his son Grayson a very happy 11th celebrated on the 10th. Christina Henry Happy birthday to Charlie turning 50 on Friday the 13th. Luke Brown, his smoking hot wife Abby celebrates on Valentine's Day the 14th. And Joel Van Dyck turns 34 on Valentine's Day. Happy Birthday from everybody here, the best, best podcast in the universe. Yeah, we got a title change. You heard it. Dame Christina Henry becomes a baronet today. And it looks mighty handsome on you. Dame Christina Henry, that sash looks just dynamite. Congratulations. Congratulations and thank you for supporting the best podcast in the universe. Then we have a knight, two nights and one dame to bring up. So if we can get our swords for a second. Where's my swords? There we go. Ow. There we go.

[Adam Curry]

Here's one.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, that's. Oh. Oh, that's the pretty one. I like that one. Up on the podium, Brittany Miller, Harry Clan and Juneonymous. All three of you have reached that wonderful status of knights and dame of the no Agenda roundtable. I'm very proud to pronounce the KV as Dame Brittany, Sir Sauerkraut of the North Texas Annetas and Circumcision for you. We have Hookers of Blow Rent Boys and Chardonnay. We have Public Sub and Diet Coke. We've got Harless and Haldol pepperoni rolls and pale Ales. We got Redheads and Red Rise. We got organic macaroni and plasticizers, beer and blunts. We got geishas and sake, breast milk and Pablo ginger ale and gerbils. And of course we always have some mutton and mead at the round table. Go to noagenderrings.com that is where you will be able to look at the handsome ring that is good for both dames and knights. All we need from you is a ring size so that we can send you the proper rings, the properly sized ring and along with that, obviously a certificate of all authenticity. And it always comes with some wax to seal your important correspondence. We have a missed note from Sir Mr. Bob Dabelina. That was $350 donated in episode 1838. He wrote his note of the 200 characters a lot on PayPal. I think we did this. Didn't we talk about this? He said you didn't see it.

[Adam Curry]

I don't remember.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, it would. I remember this because he said the state of Florida tested 46 candies and found unacceptable amount of arsenic in 28 of. Yes, I remember this. We talked about.

[Adam Curry]

I don't remember us reading it. I remember reading the note.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, I'm pretty sure we read it on the show. Okay, I could be wrong. Does he have anything else in here? No, I think. I think we got all of that. But then we had a dame request from dame Catherine. On January 4th, my husband's friend Stefan sent in a note to share that my husband Bill Walsh, AKA Sir Saturday Night died suddenly just before Christmas. While his death was unexpected, so was our friend's tribute. I jolted from my seat when I heard Bill's name and was so touched despite Adam calling him a douche in the next breath. Well, come on. I think I was very nice about it and in fact I said that it's always interesting how the people who yell at us the most actually love us the most. And she says yes, Bill indeed loved the show, contributing his time, talent and treasure as often as possible. Financially was a baronet working on his way to Baron status. Our night and Dame Rings were proudly used in our 10102020 wedding. Otherwise his efforts yes, otherwise his efforts included informative emails to the hosts and developing the bones of a personal website for John about which Bill didn't hear back despite follow up attempts. I hope you feel bad, John. He regularly competed in the weekly art contest and recently developed a website in the AI Slop Songs Promoted NA and Ashland Speed. Yes, he made the Ashland Speed As a pop artist. He was most proud of creating the John's I Got Ants song some years ago and would light up when someone requested the short or long version of it with their donation. Bill's life was cut too short at age 44. His 45th birthday would fall on the next show day, 2-8-26. I'm therefore requesting a posthumous birthday shout out. Further, I'm also requesting that the full John's I Got Ant song be played in his honor at the end of the of the show, February 826 as he created it. I will do that. And then he asked she asked. This may be a long shot, but as Bill was chronically online in communication with more no Agenda producers than I even know, I wonder if the link to his obituary newly posted on the funeral home this week could be quietly included in this episode. Show notes. Absolutely. We'll take care of that. And we already have three end of show mixes. But I I will put in the I've Got Ants song for him in memory of Bill. And thank you so much for sending that note. Dame Catherine. I just love that they use their night and Dame Rings.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, that is cute.

[John C. Dvorak]

That is very cute. So we miss Strokey Bill Sir Bill as we would miss anybody who leaves Gitmo Nation and God bless him.

[Adam Curry]

Meetups.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's right, the no Agenda meetups. You can join in any single time you want anytime you want to go meet some people from getmonation. Go to noagendameetups.com to find out where these Meetups take place. One of them is in Indianapolis in Indy. And here's Dame Annette Miller's indie meetup report.

[Adam Curry]

Hello, this is Sir Mark and this.

[News Reporter]

Is Dame Maria having a great time.

[Adam Curry]

At St. Joseph Brewery with the gang.

[News Reporter]

Although it's cold out there, it's so warm being around our family.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hi, this is Syrup of the Maple reporting live from the no Agenda Meetup. I'm joined by Dame Emily. Dame Emily. What are you hearing?

[Adam Curry]

What am I what?

[News Reporter]

This is Emily the Not a fed Fed. Just so happy to be back with all these great people in Indianapolis. Brusky here drinking some beers in the church. Hi, this is Dame Trinity in the Morning having a great time in Indy, surviving the brutal cold in the morning.

[John C. Dvorak]

John and Adam, Sir, PBR Street Gang enjoying another conspiracy therapy session here in Indy.

[News Reporter]

This is Katie from St. Joseph's Public House and Brewery in downtown Indianapolis serving the no Agenda crew this Sunday in the morning.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay. Always wonderful how you include your server. All meetup reports should always include a server. And there's one taking place on February 14th. That's this Saturday, Valentine's Day. The Treasure Valley Board Boise meetup, three o' clock at the Old State Saloon. And on Sunday, our next show day, the TMI Evac Zone Card Game Meetup 3:30 at Evergreen Brewing in Camp Hill, Pennsylvania. Also on Sunday, the East Texas Mid Monthly meetup. And that'll be at 3:33pm at Rotolo's Pizzeria. Dirty Jersey Whore will be hosting that coming up in this month of February. Charlotte, North Carolina, Fort Wayne, Indiana, Santa Cruz, California, Long Beach Beach, California, Dallas, Fort Worth, San Francisco and Prairieville, Louisiana. There's many more in March going all the way into April and into May. Go find them [e-mail] I believe April 11th will be another Fredericksburg meetup. So I'm looking forward to that. And so is Tina the Keeper. Find out where all these meetups are taking place noagendameetups.com if you can't find one near you, here's a very simple tip. Start one yourself. It's very easy and guaranteed a party. Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days you wanna be where you won't be triggered or hell, lame you wanna be where everybody feels the same.

[Adam Curry]

It's like a party.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, just like a party. Party, party, party. We have John's Tip of the Day coming up and extends end of show mixes including the I Got Ants by Sir Bill. But before we do that, we always like to Do a little bit of man versus the machine. See what isos we can come up with for the end of the show. I see you have three. Three, yes. Do you want me to start as usual?

[Adam Curry]

Yes, please. Those two together is awesome.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay. I thought that was pretty good.

[News Reporter]

Those guys really brought the value today.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes, you're right. That was.

[Adam Curry]

Where you get that?

[John C. Dvorak]

That was AI.

[Adam Curry]

Where that come from?

[John C. Dvorak]

That was AI. Someone gave it to me.

[Adam Curry]

AI. Yeah, well, now you're saying it's not AI because someone gave it to you, so it doesn't count as AI.

[John C. Dvorak]

I said it was AI.

[Adam Curry]

It's AI After I asked.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay, this is not AI. Oh, it's an OG file. I can't play the OG file. Oorbus Ogg Vorbis will not play. Well, instead, let me play. Let me see. Do I have this? Maybe this one.

[News Reporter]

No Agenda is my guilty pleasure. Donate another.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, I knew you'd like it, but it's AI. I'm kind of. I'm kind of low on the fact that it was AI.

[Adam Curry]

I like that one.

[John C. Dvorak]

I know you like the donate part. I know exactly what you like.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I'm not an idiot.

[John C. Dvorak]

No, you're not. Far from.

[Adam Curry]

So here we go. This is a real one. We're switching roles because I have, like, a real clip. Clip Here. Here's the. Here's the ISO. Nothing.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, we learned nothing. Okay, true. Also true. Yes, true, true.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, so here's where we go to the good stuff. Here's a hoi polloi.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wow.

[Adam Curry]

How can the hoi polloi ignore this podcast?

[John C. Dvorak]

It needs to be quicker.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, then we'll go to this one, which is the last one I have, which is Drinks. Excellent podcast, as usual. Drinks for everyone.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, see, I know you like mine better. I know it because it says donate. Here we go. Let's listen to it again.

[News Reporter]

No Agenda is my guilty pleasure. Donate.

[John C. Dvorak]

I mean, I know you like it. I know that's what you want. You want that to be the one at the end of the show. True or not?

[Adam Curry]

What, are you trying to hypnotize me?

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. And while we have decided that let's do the tip of the day.

[News Reporter]

And.

[John C. Dvorak]

Me just the tip with JCD and sometimes Adam.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, well, I have these things at the dinner table, and I'm thinking, yeah, I should make a tip of the day.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

And these are the. The home memory LED taper candles. These are the flameless candles that have a. Have a remote and a timer. And, you know, I've been looking at these. I've had them for a year, got them as a gift. Gift. And I said I don't want flameless candy. Stupid candles that are, they flicker, they look like candles and they, you know, they seem like candles and they're candles looking things. And I've actually gotten so used to them, I don't see why anyone would buy candles. These things cost about the same amount per candle, about three bucks a piece.

[John C. Dvorak]

Candles and candles can be very expensive, I find.

[Adam Curry]

And candles can be. Well, these are the tapers. The ones I I'm recommending are the stick candles that go into a candle holder. But they also, you can also get the big round, giant cand candles that have a. Which actually look even more realistic that are available also. You can look at flameless candles on Amazon or anywhere you want to go. And I just recommend them. I think they're, they're fabulous. And a little remote control. You need the remote control.

[John C. Dvorak]

They have these at restaurants, except not with the remote control. They have them at restaurants.

[Adam Curry]

No, but you can bring, you know, the remote control is universal.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, you bring it to the restaurant and turn everything, everyone's candle off.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, you could. There's another tip of the day. It's a sub tip of the day. Bring the remote control to the restaurant and just casually walk by and turn off the candles.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah. Remember we used to do that with remote controls. We'd be turning off.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, at the bar.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah, at the bar. Turning off TVs. Remember when we were happy just messing with the TV at the bar? Remember we did the bubble, you can.

[Adam Curry]

Do it in Canada candles.

[John C. Dvorak]

Now, we didn't need tick tock. We need social media. We just need a remote control for the candles. And that'll be.

[Adam Curry]

So get these things and then turn off some lights in the can. You know, the funny thing about having them at the table is occasionally one of them will just turn on out of the blue.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[Adam Curry]

Like why what turn this, you know what kind of razor coming through the window.

[John C. Dvorak]

Sounds like quality stuff from China is what it sounds.

[Adam Curry]

Well, it's definitely quality stuff from China. But it there. If you don't have these candles, I would, I would recommend them as a cool thing to own.

[John C. Dvorak]

All right, there it is. Another fabulous tip of the day. Find them [e-mail] or tipoftheday.net. And sometimes Adam created by Dana Burnetti. All right, that concludes our show for today. And we look forward. Well, first of all, happy Valentine's Day, everybody. I hope you have a good one and. And do Something nice for your loved one. As you should. That's what you should be doing. Absolutely. Coming up next on the no Agenda stream. Brand new to the stream. Oh, it's good to have Josh and. And the crew from Disaffected. This is a very, very good podcast. Disaffected episode number 260, talking about the. The nut jobs in America, usually on Tick Tock. This will be something you might want to listen to, John. He explains exactly how it works. End of show mixes. We've got, let me see, we've got MK Ultra, Mark. We've got mvp, and we also have Kylin. There you go. And of course, that ant song from Bill Walsh coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country. FEMA region. Number six in the morning, everybody.

[Adam Curry]

I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley, where I wish everybody a happy Valentine's Day this Saturday. I'm John C. Dvorak.

[John C. Dvorak]

We'll be back on Sunday. Remember us atnoen Agenda donations.com. thank you for listening. Until then, adios. Mo fos are who we hooey. And Sunday. I'm reclaiming my time. I'm reclaiming my time. Order. Reclaiming my time. The witness starts to frame my thoughts. But that is not the goal I've sought. I'll cut you off before the verb. The rhythmic flow I must disturb. Reclaiming my time.

[Adam Curry]

I'm reclaiming my time.

[John C. Dvorak]

I'm reclaiming. Reclaiming my time.

[Adam Curry]

Reclaiming my time.

[John C. Dvorak]

Your answer is a waste of breath. I brought this sequence into death. Reclaiming my time. Reclaiming my time. Mr. Chairman.

[Adam Curry]

Mr. Chairman.

[John C. Dvorak]

Reclaiming my time. Reclaiming my time. Reclaiming my time. I don't want the truth today. I only want the words I say. Reclaiming my time. My time, my time, my time, my time, my time, my time, My time, my time, my time, My time, my time, my time, my time, my time, my time. You better hide your kids, Hide your life. The transurrection is coming tonight.

[Adam Curry]

And when is your fear for your life? Next time try to get their pronouns right.

[John C. Dvorak]

They cuss and curse cause they're offended. There's nothing, nothing worse than being misgendered.

[Adam Curry]

When they are you better run for.

[John C. Dvorak]

You know we are all God's children. We're born complete and old. So close your hearts we be God willing. He gave us sacred soul. You better hide your kids, hide your wife. The transurrection is coming tonight.

[Adam Curry]

Before the bodies are in the ground.

[John C. Dvorak]

The media's debating about pronouns and clown role.

[Adam Curry]

The murderer must be honored.

[John C. Dvorak]

How dare you dead name Jeffrey Dahmer. And if you do they cheat of us might soon we know we are we're all God's children born complete and more. Don't close your heart we got we sacred soul.

[Adam Curry]

You better hide your kids hide your wife.

[John C. Dvorak]

The transurrection is coming tonight. The snow living inside them.

[Adam Curry]

All right, they lost the fight with the parasite that drives the minds of the affected. It's why they re at ivermectin.

[John C. Dvorak]

It ain't the germs, it's always been the wor you know, we are of God's children born complete and. God gave us sacred song. Your wine tips really knock it out of the park every single time. You should just do wine tips all the time as far as I'm concerned.

[Adam Curry]

And it's called Method M E T H O D Method M E T H o D Method. And it's called method says audience. They like the cheap stuff. They like the cheap stuff. It doesn't have mega purple in it. You can tell by the core this hasn't been jacked up with a bunch of chemicals. It's a California Cabernet and it's called Method M E T H o D his audience. They like the cheap stuff.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, you would never steer us wrong.

[Adam Curry]

Thank you. I got ants, I got ants. I don't know if you had a, you know, ants, right, had ant invasion. I was thinking if you, if you desiccated a big pile of ants and then ground them to a powder like a fine, fine grind of black pepper. We were having dinner and, yeah, I got an ant, somehow in the meal and I ate it. These things are peppery. I got ants, I got ants. These ants, they don't need a lot. And then you see, you find all.

[John C. Dvorak]

The ones that are roaming around.

[Adam Curry]

I backed them, backed them off by doing the burning trick. And you leave them there. The only ant. There are occasional moments where there's an ant that you do not torch, and that's an ant that's carrying one of the dead ants back. I got ants, I got ants. I got ants, I got ants. Ants, ants, ants.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, oh, they're not that bad.

[Adam Curry]

The best podcast in the universe.

[John C. Dvorak]

Adios, mofo.

[News Reporter]

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