B (2:23)

This was Tuesday.

A (2:25)

This was three. Three, which was whatever day that was.

B (2:28)

Yeah, I think it was Tuesday.

A (2:29)

Yeah. So they put him in the hospital, moved him instantly up to admitting. They did some tests and decided he needed a double bypass. He had a heart attack. When he was at the hospital, which is the best place to have it

B (2:43)

now, was it a severe heart attack or is it just.

A (2:46)

No, it was minor. Minor. Ish. But he, you know, he did need two bypasses, so.

B (2:52)

Wait, so this is, like, unbelievable timing, though.

A (2:55)

I mean, three. Three.

B (2:58)

It's the magic number. It really is. That. That is. Okay. So. Wow. Thank you. Holy spirit is what we say. Beautiful.

A (3:07)

So he went through surgery, you know, after, you know, I mean, they had to. It was terrifying. Few days. He is out of the ICU today, and he's upright and sitting. Upright and walking and talking, and he doesn't like the food. He was watching Chinese TV last night going, well, maybe I can learn a language while I'm here.

B (3:36)

That's what Jay texted me. He says, yeah, they had him up walking, which is unbelievable. And he was eating, and he says, and he was watching Chinese television because he wanted to learn the language while he had some time. I'm like, okay.

A (3:52)

And he's, you know, his colors get better than it's been forever, because I guess, you know, he's.

B (3:58)

This must have been going on for a while.

A (4:01)

Yeah, probably. It's been progressively going on. And, you know, he's. He's on his way to recovery. I mean, he still is very hoarse from having the ventilator, but he's. He's himself, everything's intact, and he can't wait to bounce me off the show.

B (4:20)

So. So you got. Indeed, you know, so. So Mimi and I've been talking over the. And we're like, well, what are we going to do? Because this could be weeks. It could be. We had certainly no idea before he was up and eating yesterday, which is very encouraging. And we're like, well, people are not going to stick around for best of shows. It's okay once in a while. And I have to say thank you so much. So many producers, of course, stepped up, sent in best of shows, which will all be used eventually. That was just phenomenal. But we saw the, you know, this is a family business. This is a two family business, really. And we've been family for over 18 years. I mean, I met Jay when she was 14 or 15. You know, now she's married and, you know, and doing all kinds of stuff for the show. It's just amazing. There's your dog.

A (5:19)

Yeah. Sorry about that.

B (5:20)

No, that's okay. That adds color to the show. So we really, you know, of course, I said, hey, man, Darren o' Neill will jump in. Larry will jump in. Mo will jump in the. No, Agenda. Millennials will jump in. Everybody will jump in. But that just feels wrong. You know, it's like, ah, it doesn't. And then you said, well, here's how you brought it in a very interesting way. So, you know, we're very creative. We'll come up with something. Yeah, we'll come up with something. I was. I was shaken. Mimi. This. This hit me harder than I thought, actually. I'm like, oh, you know, I always thought, well, one day, you know, it'll just be me and be okay. And then it's like, wow, that. It was very. I mean, I'm. John is in. In a year and a half, he's going to surpass my longest relationship, which was my first marriage, so. So, you know, it.

A (6:14)

Yeah.

B (6:15)

And it was really. I'm glad. You know, a couple. Tina included. But a couple of people say, how are you? And I'm like, you know when I said, how am I? Oh, well, yeah, actually, I'm pretty shook up by all this. And then you say, well, I could do the show with you. And I'm like, now, first of all, you did the intro with me on Thursday, and I listened back to it. I'm like, you've got a great voice. You've got a great mic presence. There were.

A (6:45)

Thank you.

B (6:46)

Yeah, well, please say it like that. And I said that. And Mimi says, well, you know, I used to be a model. I said, oh, yeah? Pictures or it doesn't happen. Whoa, smokestack. Smokestack. I showed that to a few friends. Sorry, had to. They're like, what? Dvorak doesn't deserve her, man. That's okay. All right. You were a model. When is this? Early 70s. That picture?

A (7:14)

Yeah, well, that picture was from when I was 17, so. Yeah. Yeah, I've had a checkered past. I was a theater kid before that. So, you know, that's all fine acting. Yeah, well, that and improv. And I was the emcee of a dinner theater that was all improv and skits.

B (7:35)

Well, and so. And Mimi's like, yeah, we can do stuff. And, you know, we can get some clips together. And I'm like, okay, well. And you say, well, a lot of the stuff John talks about comes from JC anyway. And I'm like, hold on a second. Are we hearing that half of Dvorak is really coming from the family? Is this coming from you? What's going on here?

A (8:01)

No, our family is really. We're all kind of competitive intellectuals. That's the only way I can put it. We talk about the strangest things. We all have our specialties. Me, food and additives and food and clean eating and all that good stuff, among other things. And I read PubMed on a daily basis and I read legislative bills, you know, so. And I'm a news. I'm a news junkie, but not mainstream media. And JC has his interests and Jay has hers and you know, Eric has his. And we kind of are always trying to top each other and bring new topics. And so there's a lot of stuff going around our family all the time. So, yeah, John has his own take on the world and he has a different viewpoint and he's way more history oriented and, you know, financial trends and all that. I don't care. That stuff I don't care about. I have a different bent. But there are things that I will force him to talk about because I think they're fascinating.

B (9:07)

So this morning. So this morning I sit down and I'm like. Or maybe it was last night. I say, okay, well, if you have any clips, let me know and send them to this email box. Like 16 clips come in, like all perfect. I haven't listened to them because I'd never do that except I just check one for levels. Perfectly clipped. They look like they're all the right length of time. I'm like, are you. Do you do clips for John too? I mean, something's going on here.

A (9:35)

No, I, Well, I use Audacity anyway because I do transcribing of old. I've done a lot of transcribing and a lot of times, like, people will give me old cassettes that I have to transfer over because they're in such bad shape. And I have to.

B (9:51)

Kids, you have to understand, back in the day, we had these little plastic boxes and it had these two wheels in it and there was a magnetic tape. And that's how we listened to things and we recorded things. And that was known as a cassette tape. I just have to tell everybody and,

A (10:08)

and, and the cassette tapes, there are many different formats, different makers, and all of them are different and they all record at different speeds and they all have different. So you have to have all the different players to get the information off, or you have to somehow download it and then use Audacity and clean it up so you can actually transcribe it. It's. It's a process. So. And then also I've got the podcast studio in Port Angeles, which I still haven't used, but I've learned how to do everything.

B (10:36)

Yeah, I told you what to get you know that I gave you the equip. Got all that. Except I'm sorry, go ahead.

A (10:45)

The Rhodes podcaster. Blah blah blah blah.

B (10:48)

The road caster. Yes, blah blah, the road caster. Blah blah blah blah blah.

A (10:52)

Is not trivial to learn. Sorry, I don't have a background in that stuff, so. Yeah, it's okay. I'm writing a book about this stuff about how to set up a podcast studio.

B (11:04)

Okay. Yeah, now probably the funniest message I got because people responded so, so well. And this I'll just have to read this one verbatim after hearing Mimi, I'm going to ask you a question again that I've mentioned more than once in the past. Please don't react emotionally. Just consider Are you sure John is not CIA? Mimi sure sounds like his handler.

A (11:33)

I am definitely not CIA.

B (11:37)

Well, you. You do have a a fabulous background and you and I talk a couple times a year, mainly about taxes, but we wind up talking for about an hour about all kinds of stuff. And then already just in this short week, I've learned a couple things that we're going to talk about. And one thing that I learned yesterday, I want to talk about right after this Clip the clock. It runs our lives and when it jumps ahead or behind an hour every six months, it messes with us. Daylight Savings Time disrupts your biological rhythm. Kay Lewis leads the youth group at her Barrington church and worries about the sleep deprived kids coming in Sunday morning.

A (12:20)

If I had my druthers, I'd go to Daylight Savings time and I would stop right there. Stay there year round.

B (12:26)

Dr. Philip Cosey monitors sleep charts as part of his work as director of the Sleep center for Edward Elmhurst Endeavor Health Hospital. He's cozy says losing an hour of sleep may seem insignificant, but studies prove otherwise. There are significant implications with respect to mood disorder and suicidality, Cosey says. There are also studies which show a big increase in heart attacks, strokes, depression and fatigue in the days after moving the clocks forward. State Senator Darby Hills is co sponsoring a bill that would allow Illinois to do away with Daylight Saving Time as neighboring states get rid of it as well.

A (13:04)

Even just an hour of sleep can

B (13:05)

make a big difference.

A (13:06)

A lot of people have to change their their whole routines, you know, evening daylight, evening daylight time will allow people to be outside, be with their families. Helps mental health. I just start trying to pretend. One must pretend their way into this new rhythm, right?

B (13:22)

Fake it till you make it. The Daylight Savings act of 2026 would compromise making Daylight Saving Time permanent, but only changing the clocks by A half hour. All right, Illinois is obviously nuts, going to change it by a half hour. But I said this to you last night. I said, just remember because that's the only time John has ever been late is one time when daylight savings time changed. And so I thought I'd just remind you as a courtesy. And you said what?

A (13:54)

I don't change my clocks. I just stay on daylight savings time and just subtract an hour. I can't stand it. So I just gave up on changing the clocks.

B (14:05)

So now does your. But your phone changes, doesn't it, automatically?

A (14:09)

Yeah, yeah, I have no choice there. But, but why change? I've got, you know, grandfather clocks and, you know, clocks on the wall here and there and it's like it's only four months. So BC BC Canada is, has just announced that they're changing permanently to daylight savings, which will be very interesting because Washington already passed a law that said that they, although it hasn't been enacted yet, that we are going to stay on time.

B (14:34)

Yeah.

A (14:35)

So it's just, it's stupid. I mean, I just think the whole thing is dumb. The worst thing ever was when I worked, I worked graveyard shift and you'd go in the. It would be great this time of year because you work seven hours and get paid for eight. But the other time of the year the clock would roll back at two and you'd go, oh great, it's a nine hour, no overtime.

B (14:59)

So where did you work graveyard shift at the. At the club?

A (15:04)

No, I worked for MasterCharge when it was called MasterCard and I worked swing shift and graveyard shift there on a regular basis. I liked the swing shift better.

B (15:17)

What were you doing? Like answering people's calls or. What exactly do you have to do at MasterCharge?

A (15:23)

I took lost and stolen card reports for the seven Western states. And then later I moved into the fraud desk where I arrested people over the phone using stolen credit cards.

B (15:35)

Citizens arrest. What was that?

A (15:37)

No, it would be the merchant had call in and I'd go, hey, let me talk to the customer. And then I'd start flirting with them while my partner called the police in the area. And then the police would come in and arrest the guy. This was in the 70s. They don't do this anymore. But yeah, and then we'd go to court and testify against them. It was a goofy, goofy job, but it was fun. Yeah.

B (16:03)

It's so nice to hear about other jobs that Dvorak has done. I think we've heard almost all of John's previous jobs already. We know that you were arresting people over the phone. You were a theater kid. You worked in. What was the. What was it, Vaudeville? What were you doing?

A (16:23)

Well, I was an emcee of a dinner theater. Yeah.

B (16:27)

Now, according to the newsletter. Thank you very much, Jay. And you as well. Again, the Dvoraks pulled together, put together a great newsletter, chock full of memes, and of course, a fantastic donation drive. You know, John is always saying that, you know, people want to donate, they really do, but they always like having a reason to donate above and beyond the value of the show, which is why we have PhDs and doctorates and different types of campaigns that we do. I never thought that he would pull this one. You know, this is like, whoa. But you guys immediately came up with the Give John a reason to Live donation. I was like, you are a. Yes, you are. Well, that was competitive intellectuals. There you go. Competitive intellectuals, right.

A (17:22)

And it was just. Yeah, well, Jay and I are back office. You know, we do everything that needs to be done. That John is, you know, John's talent. He doesn't have to do these things.

B (17:33)

Oh, oh, and do you tell him that your talent. Don't worry about it.

A (17:37)

Oh, yeah.

B (17:37)

Oh, goodness gracious. That must inflate his head so much. Your talent, don't worry about it. I don't get that here, by the way. I don't. I don't. I don't get your talent.

A (17:47)

Well, see, I've worked. I. You know, I've been with John since, like, 82, and, you know, I. I just jump in and do things because someone's got to do stuff. And, you know, John's an essayist. He's not a book writer. So I would help organize the books and get those things in shape. And, you know, he. There's things that I do better than he does and things he does better than I do. So it's that kind of partnership. Working together and being married is challenging.

B (18:17)

Yeah.

A (18:18)

So, you know, that's the reason I live in Washington state, because I don't like living in the Bay Area. And because I have a million animals, it works better. And, you know, we talk, and I come down on a regular basis. You know, we do have family time, and we go on vacations together when we do that.

B (18:36)

When's the last time you went on a vacation?

A (18:39)

I don't like to go on vacation. Wait, wait.

B (18:41)

Do I hear a bird now? First I heard the. Now is. What is that?

A (18:45)

Oh, that's my macaw.

B (18:46)

Oh, okay. Just. Yeah, it's a little different than the sirens going across the Bay Bridge now. How are you doing, Mimi? Are you, how are you feeling? Are you okay? I mean, it's you. You come across like, oh, it's no problem. You know, John's in the hospital, but come on, this is, this has got to be a bit of a shock.

A (19:05)

Well, I, I, I wasn't. The other job I had is I was the first EMT in Oakland. It was before EMTs, I was an ambulance attendant in Oakland. I was the affirmative action hire. So bring a chick in. Oh, yeah. And, you know, because of that, I kind of compartmentalize. So I will break down in about a year. You know, I ended up with post traumatic stress from that experience, and I've learned how to handle it. And how I handle it is by not thinking about it, not dealing with it, and dealing with what needs to be done. And then I'll be the one who's just a basket case, you know, six months from now, a year from now. But it's fine. It works great.

B (19:46)

Now. Are you going to come down to the Bay area for the recuperation period? If you don't mind me asking, what's the plan? Do we even have a timeline for John getting out of the hospital yet?

A (19:57)

He should be out in a week. By the end of the week, probably he's going to stay with Jay and Brennan because their house doesn't have a million stairs and because he needs people with him 247 and will probably get a visiting nurse as well.

B (20:12)

I have to get a, get a hot one. Get one of those hot ones.

A (20:16)

I'm hoping to. Oh, actually, I wouldn't mind getting just some big dude.

B (20:20)

Dude. Hot dude. Okay. Yeah, I got you.

A (20:25)

So I have to unhook my life from Port Angeles because I do things. I'm not. I don't just sit up here. I have things going on. So I will be down when I'm absolutely needed. Once I get everything taken care of here and I get my macaw farmed out to a friend and, you know, my parakeets. I have parakeets and the cats and board my dogs at my kennel. Most of my dogs, two of my dogs come with me. And then I will go down and make his house ready for him to come back to it because I have to put in handrails and a bunch

B (20:57)

of things, and I do. You're going to allow him to stay in San Francisco? I mean, is it not time for him to give up that godforsaken place?

A (21:08)

No, he likes living there. I don't think so.

B (21:10)

No, he likes it.

A (21:13)

It's not, you know, we've talked about it off and on, but my house is too cold, full of too many animals and just.

B (21:24)

It's a mess, I tell you. I don't want to be around all that.

A (21:29)

Well, I am, you know, constantly doing renovations here and stuff. You know, it would drive him nuts. It's fine the way it is. He'll be happy to get back to his independence. He's an only child. He likes to. He really likes his, you know, not to have somebody underfoot all the time. I will be down for like a couple months and get him until he is in good shape and then I will, you know, return up here and then keep. I'll probably be down every. Every three weeks, so I'll just drive a lot. I'm really good at driving. I 5.

B (22:01)

Is there any view yet on how long it will be before John can return to the show if you and I allow him?

A (22:09)

Well, first he has to get. Not be hoarse. No, John is incredibly driven and stubborn and I think he'll be smoothin later.

B (22:24)

Driven and stubborn? What? No, you don't say.

A (22:28)

And I've of course talked to all of my friends who've had bypasses and I've grilled them incredibly. And probably, you know, I'm hoping three weeks. Okay, two weeks. Two to three weeks. You know, he will do it before anything else. We'll figure it out. And we might have to ease him back in. Whatever. We'll figure it out. Yeah, but he, but he wants. He's. He's. He wants probably for me to apologize to all the listeners that he's not there and he. They have to listen to me.

B (22:58)

He's. He didn't. He doesn't like this idea, does he?

A (23:04)

No, because.

B (23:07)

Because what? Because what was the alternative? Darren, come on. I mean, no offense. Darren, I love you, brother. No offense.

A (23:15)

No, he's, you know, John is. John is. John. It's fine, you know, we'll get him back as quick as we possibly can because I got other things to do.

B (23:26)

Yes, exactly. Yes. It's a win. Win for everybody to get him back.

A (23:32)

Oh, absol. Absolutely.

B (23:34)

So what was I gonna say? No, I guess you kind of answered the questions. I mean, it's good. I'm so happy you're here. And, you know, Tina and I were talking about it when you suggested. I'm like, you know, I think it's kind of. She's like, this is a great idea. She says it keeps it in the family keeps it with the Dvorak, you know, and she's met you, you've met her, and she's like, mimi can talk. You just might have to rein her in if she keeps on going. I said, I'm not too worried about that. Now, here's the thing as we slide it, because we're going to do a bit of media deconstruction. This I did not know in more than 18 years you spent time as a child in Iran.

A (24:17)

Yes, I was there in 1966 when the Shah was in power. Still. My dad was a marine. He was called back. He was a Marine engineer. Always. We lived in Reno. He always kept up his licenses. So when the Vietnam War cranked up, he had the choice of. He was called back to service, and he didn't. My mother was totally anti war, so didn't want him to go to Vietnam on munition ships. So he took a job on the Persian Gulf on the Glomar North Sea, which was a. A drilling rig. It was a boat that was converted to a drilling rig. So my mother and I relocated to Iran, and my dad would get two weeks on, two weeks off. So I arrived in Iran. It's like, you know, I was, you know, six. In sixth grade and, you know, 10 years oldish. And it was a very interesting experience because I, you know, we.

B (25:12)

Were you in. Were you in Tehran?

A (25:14)

Tehran, yeah.

B (25:15)

I'm sorry. Tehran. I. I got to get the right pronunciation. Tehran. Tehran, yes.

A (25:20)

And it's. It's Iran, not Iran.

B (25:23)

Yes. Thank you.

A (25:23)

Well, we.

B (25:24)

We know it's Iran. That's. The show knows this. Yes.

A (25:29)

And we stayed. Originally, we lived in a hotel. We were in the Cena Hotel, which was a beautiful little place and that turned. And it was a block from the American Embassy, and we stayed there for maybe two months. And it was a CIA hotel.

B (25:46)

Oh, of course. Of course it was. Yes, of course. And you knew this at the time, as a sixth grader, you knew this is a spook spot.

A (25:56)

I didn't know. Well, we also had economic hitmen in there. I didn't know what they were until later, reflecting on it. There were a lot of finance guys. There were CIA guys. There were also a lot of people that I couldn't understand why they were there, but they were like. I think they were also ca. But there's two types of CIA that I found. The ones that'll tell you, yeah, I'm CIA, and the ones that go, oh, yes, I'm doing special work on assignment.

B (26:18)

Yes, I work for the embassy

A (26:22)

and there are. The different ambassadors would come through, too. And by the way, I hate embassy kids. No offense to embassy kids, but.

B (26:29)

No. They're. They're usually when. When we moved to Belgium, Christina went to the International School of Antwerp.

A (26:36)

Yep.

B (26:37)

And after two months, says, dad, I want to go to Belgian school. I speak enough Dutch because Flemish. But says, I hate these kids. Same thing. She's like, ugh, they're annoying. You know, they. They're. They. And they're also. They're. They're broken. You know, they're just broken from the life.

A (26:55)

Well. And my easiest way to sort kids out was I'd go, how do you like hose water? And they'd look at me with this look, like, what are you talking about?

B (27:06)

You mean drinking from the hose?

A (27:08)

Of course. Hose water.

B (27:10)

Hose water.

A (27:11)

And I'd go, see, you've never lived in America. You're not really an American kid, but, you know, living. So the CIA guys were interesting. I mean, you know, I got. I didn't know what CIA meant. And my mother and dad got really friendly with a couple of guys. Matter of fact, my mother wrote some of them forever after that. And one of them in particular would invite my mother around the country to accompany while my dad was out back on the rig. And we would go around the country so he could. That's the only way I saw all the tourist spots. I went everywhere in Iran. I went to all the major cities. Because we'd go with him and, you know, and we'd go. And we'd see museums. We do this. And every time he'd go, well, you know, I'm. If I'm not, I'm going to go see a man. And if I'm not back by a certain hour, a car will come for you. And then he'd also say, yeah, well, if anything, if I use this one code word, you guys need to get away from me as fast as possible. And I always thought, this guy's just nuts.

B (28:10)

What was the. Do you remember the code words?

A (28:12)

No. They changed every time.

B (28:14)

You don't remember any of them? That would be so cool.

A (28:19)

One of them was, I think I need a glass of water. It was things like. It was really weird. It was, like, really stupid. Or, go get me a Coke. You know, Coca Cola. But it wasn't until later when I. Because I've been writing down my different memories.

B (28:36)

Your memoirs?

A (28:37)

My memoir, yeah. Sounded like a good idea. It dawned on me that we were the beards to make him fit in better. Because, you know, here's a guy with a goofy kid and an American woman. And we were probably in danger the whole time because two years after we left, he was killed. He was gunned down on the Iraqi border. So, yeah, it was like. He was interesting. It was also interesting that when I was there, and I never understood this, the Peace Corps were there and they were building tennis courts because that's what they Shah wanted.

B (29:12)

Because that's what USAID does. That's how we roll. Yes, yes. Tennis courts.

A (29:20)

So. And, you know, a lot of things about Iran. Iran was at the time, you know, it was all Western dress. It was very modern. It was kind of interesting.

B (29:28)

Yeah.

A (29:29)

We also went.

B (29:29)

Was that the day of the. Of, like the mini skirt? Not mini skirts, but above the knee at least. Yeah. I mean, that we. I've seen pictures. You know, it looked modern. Everyone's rocking and rolling. They're smoking cigarettes, having a good time.

A (29:41)

Yep. And, you know, it was. There were a lot of people. I mean, it was lots of classes. Like, since we were Americans, clearly we were in the upper class, and that was beautiful. But there were also, you know, shopkeepers slept in their shops, and then people were. There were a lot of very poor people. There were people living in tents out. We lived on the edge of the city near the. We lived close to the American school, which at the time was at the edge of the city. And there were people living in tents. There were goat herders that would come by. You know, all the people that I hung out with, you know, our contemporaries, all lived in houses with big, tall walls. Everything was walled. It was. But I did learn about lots about other religions, because Iran was full of other religions. I mean, it was like, you know, there were. There were Jewish Iranians, and there were Christian Iranians, and there were Muslim Iranians and there were Zoroastrians.

B (30:38)

Still, would you say I was predominantly Muslim or not at all?

A (30:42)

No, no, it was the most. And also, Muslims don't come in one flavor.

B (30:46)

True.

A (30:47)

I mean, you know, there are as many different. Almost as many divisions of Muslim as there are Christians.

B (30:52)

Yeah.

A (30:53)

So, you know, and it was. There was a huge difference between the Sunni and the Shias, and they kind

B (31:02)

of don't get along, I've heard. I'm reliably informed.

A (31:06)

Well, there are also branches of the Shia. Like, there's the Twelvers. That's what the Shah was. You know, there's. You know, there's so many. There's Reformists, there's extremists. They're just like Christians, you know, There's.

B (31:20)

Yeah. This is what people in America don't understand, particularly in Texas. There's so many people freaking out right now. It's intentional. I'm pretty sure it's a Republican. Republican. Let's all gather the wagons and vote for us. Propaganda that. Look at all these mosques. The Muslims are taking over. We're going to be just like Europe. I'm like, I don't think so. And it's bad too, for the very reason you just said. Like there's Muslims and there's Muslims.

A (31:51)

Right. But the more extremist of the Sunnis really do believe the only way that they will achieve Muhammad coming back is by Armageddon and killing infidels.

B (32:04)

Yes, yes, Armageddon.

A (32:06)

So. But meanwhile there's a whole lot of guys, there's non denominational Muslims that are just like our non domination denominationals. They're like, yeah, whatever. You know, there's people who just identify culturally as Muslim but they aren't really practicing. Just like there are Jewish people who are and just like there's Christian people who are. So that is. We don't teach the. We don't teach any religion in school.

B (32:28)

Anything. Anything. It's pathetic. We don't teach anybody anything.

A (32:35)

Yeah, so I mean that's kind of like.

B (32:39)

So. So you've seen the country change over decades. Have you kept up with it?

A (32:45)

Oh yeah. I bore John to tears with it. And I love Tusi tv, who actually is an Iranian living.

B (32:53)

Yeah, John's played Cliff from Tusi.

A (32:55)

Yeah, I love Tusi. Well, it's because I absolutely adore the gu. He has. I mean he's a little. He's had too much coffee, I think. But he talks really fast. But he gets really good clips and he really does great reporting. And it is not the reporting we're seeing, you know, and the fact that what we're seeing is just such nonsense. It really. I'm always ranting about it.

B (33:21)

Well, since you brought clips, I'll let you play some. Cause I see on the list you have some Iran clips.

A (33:29)

I do. And actually one of my favorite would be. It's, it's, it's. I'm not sure what I named it. It's the CIA, cnn, Iran.

B (33:40)

Oh, the propaganda clip.

A (33:42)

Oh, absolutely.

B (33:43)

Here we go. Break for a coffee. Along the way, we've been driving for several hours. There's a couple of things that we've noticed. Number one is that first of all, all the shops are open. All the shops are really well stocked. Even, even with, with fresh things like for instance, fruits and vegetables, coffee obviously also available as well. And then also the gas stations. There's no long lines as gas stations. Fuel seems readily available, and you just don't see any sort of degree of panic anywhere. Okay. Is that not true?

A (34:14)

He's out in the middle of nowhere, it looks like. For all I know, he's. He's in Nevada. That, by the way, that.

B (34:19)

That's.

A (34:20)

That's Frederick Plin, who said that he had permission to be there, which means it's from the, you know, irgc.

B (34:26)

Oh, okay. Yeah.

A (34:28)

What. What makes me so suspicious of the whole thing is if you go the Internet, Iran, March 6 clip.

B (34:37)

Let me see. Yes. Internet, Iran.

A (34:40)

Okay, this. This sounds like an AI voice, but it's. It. There are. This was just the best source for the information. So as Bon said. So let's hear about.

B (34:48)

Sorry, sorry, go ahead.

A (34:49)

That's okay. Let's just talk about the Internet. So here.

B (34:52)

As bombs fall and tensions escalate, millions of people inside Iran are facing another crisis. A near total Internet blackout across the country. Iranians say they suddenly lost access to the Internet, leaving them unable to contact family members, read news updates, or share

A (35:10)

information about what is happening on the ground.

B (35:14)

Internet monitoring organizations report that national connectivity collapsed to just a tiny fract normal levels, effectively isolating the country from the global Internet.

A (35:25)

Okay, so was this guy from CNN taking up all the bandwidth?

B (35:29)

Yeah. You only had a Starlink or something. Yeah. Who knows?

A (35:33)

No, Starlink's not working either. That's just it. They have a total ban and it's like, you know, it's like in the. What, they. There was no point to this. It was just like pure. Oh, everything's great. Well, it is. It's great, but I can't. First, it's just like, what kind of nonsense is this? What kind of story is this?

B (35:53)

Well, they have. Yeah, because they have no reporting, obviously. And. And it's very possible that it's actually much better than we think. I mean, it seems that we don't know anything. Breaking news, nobody knows nothing. It's like, were there really 32,000 people killed during the protest? I don't know. I mean, it's just a number that popped up and some say thousands, some say a lot. Some say 32,000. We just don't really know.

A (36:21)

Well, that actually from different Iranian reporters outside of Iran who've been getting. Some people go to the border and to send off broadcasts. I mean, they risk their lives to send off, you know, little clips of video and all that. So from what I've watched for the last, you know, 30 days, at least on two CTV, is that the targets are very specific. We aren't just, you know, carpet bombing the country.

B (36:51)

We are bombing surgical strikes. Yes, My favorite word.

A (36:57)

And at the same time, during the protests, which were amazing to watch, and there was a lot more video of that because the Internet was still working and Starlink was there, you know, people were rounded up. I mean, people were just shot on the street, and the bodies weren't. You couldn't go get. Try to retrieve your family. You'd get shot doing that. I mean, the crackdown, you know, the IRGC was brutal. It was brutal from the beginning. And actually, I do have a really great. To put Iran in perspective. The best quick history I have of Iran is Eclipse by Kazin, and I don't know how to say his last name.

B (37:35)

Maybe Asidu.

A (37:36)

Asidu. You're right. He. He's this. He's got a sub stack. And he just did the best rundown of the history of Iran to give people a perspective.

B (37:46)

Sorry, I'm jumping the gun. We're getting used to each other. We're getting used to each other. I'm sorry.

A (37:52)

Okay, so there's. There's part one and two, and then we have a really good summation, which I think is the third clip. So. So however you want to do that.

B (38:00)

All right. 1. Iran wasn't always a place where women were forced to cover up. The government killed its own people and kids sold kidneys for food. It used to be a thriving democracy. Then Iran's prime minister tried to nationalize their oil to take it back from British corporations. The CIA and the Brits didn't like that. So in 1953, they helped overthrow him and replace him with the Shah, basically a king. The Shah was controversial. So in 1979, liberal college students led a revolution to overthrow him. What they hoped for was freedom. What they got was the Islamic Republic. The Republic executed thousands of political prisoners, including those students. In 1979, they held 52Americans hostage for 444 days. Night after night, they paraded our citizens on camera and tortured them off camera. We took that personally. Now, you need to understand this about the Islamic Republic. They aren't rational geopolitical actors. They are religious fanatics who welcome death. The Constitution lists their Messiah, a figure who disappeared over a thousand years ago, as head of state. They believe he will only come back at the end of the world. So that's what they want. That's why they fund Hamas And Hezbollah. That's why their terror network has launched attacks in Europe, Muslim countries and killed Americans worldwide. You know, I've always wondered when, when CIA and MI6 put the Shah in, in. Did. Did BP regain control of the oil? Have they just still been in control of it or was it truly nationalized? Do you have any insight on that?

A (39:35)

It wasn't nationalized, but they split it so that Iran got 60% of the profits and BP held 40% to this

B (39:43)

to this day, as far as you know?

A (39:45)

No. Once the IRGC came in, they nationalized the oil and they mostly sell to China and Russia.

B (39:54)

Okay, yes, yes, we know this. We know this.

A (40:00)

So. And actually, if you go. Kazen, does the second part, which is. Gives you a really. It's kind of. It's just a nice little summation of that. It's the last part of that, that, that one clip.

B (40:12)

For them, all roads lead to Armageddon. They aren't logical, they're ideological. And you can't negotiate someone out of a position that they didn't reason themselves into. For the last two decades, they've pursued two weapons to contest the West. Nugget, nukes and terrorism. Obama got them to agree not to build nukes for 15 years in exchange for removing sanctions. But that gave them more money, which they gave to terrorists instead of their citizens. Then Trump removed the nuclear deal and put back sanctions that gave them less money for terrorists, but pushed them toward nukes. You don't want war, but you also don't want them getting nukes, right? But how do you prevent the nukes without risking the war? And if they get the nuke, does war find you anyway? Do you keep playing nuclear poker and hope that they bluff for the next 20 years, or do you flip the table? If you were the president, what would you do? And what would you realize about them if they tried to kill you like they tried to kill Trump? Now, does Israel benefit from this? Sure. That's what happens when two countries share an enemy. You don't need to trust Israel to see that. Look, we're not saints. We're acting in our interests. But our interests and the Iranian people's interests are aligned. And what we did to Iran was wrong. Now we have a chance to make it right. Why do you think it? Is that your dog? What's your dog's name?

A (41:33)

Moose.

B (41:34)

Moose.

A (41:35)

He's a Fila Brasilero.

B (41:36)

Yeah, he's a killer dog. The ones that'll kill you if you look at him wrong. Why has no American president done what is Happening now. I mean, there's been a lot of talk. They've had all kind, you know, they've kept our diplomats hostage. There's just been so much going. Obama gave him money, pallets of cash. What do you think? Why do you think no president has ever done? What is happening now?

A (42:02)

Well, Jimmy Carter made the big mistake of thinking that, oh, it's a religion. We need a religious buffer to keep the communists at bay. He never, he didn't, you know, I mean, he was a guy from the south. He had no idea.

B (42:16)

The peanut farmer, that's what called him.

A (42:18)

Yeah, yeah. With his smart brother, whatever his name was. Billy Bear.

B (42:22)

Billy. Billy, yeah, I remember Billy.

A (42:26)

So we made a mistake then, you know, he kept saying, well, I've asked them nicely. I've asked them nicely. And it's like, you know, people are holding your embassy hostage and you're asking him nicely for 400 days. It was a mistake. He didn't back the Iranian people. He didn't save them. He trusted what the IRGC said, what the Ayatollah said. So since then, I, I think I find it really weird that at the same time, both Iran and China and Russia got involved with Venezuela. So they basically put a base, an axis of operations in our backyard. And then Biden opened the border, wide open border. Well, I can't make sense of any of this. It's like I think our presidents were acting against us. And I think, I tend to be. I'm not strong on. I believe in George Washington's final thing where it's country over party. I don't care one way or the other who the president is because he's our figurehead. But we've had some very peculiar things going on for the last, you know, since, Since Obama.

B (43:57)

Well, I'd say that that is mainly because of China and because if you, if you look at what's happening now and actually have a clip later on, China was getting tons of oil from Venezuela and lots of oil from, From Iran. And they were trading it in, Juan. They weren't trading it in US dollars. Always a mistake. Just ask Gaddafi. Big mistake. And they also had committed 400 billion equivalent $400 billion into all kinds of tech, including military tech. And to me it seems like, okay, here's this country, or here are two countries who are undercutting the oil price, which is just not good. You can't have a world oil trade if you got these big actors doing all kinds of stuff. And at the same time, I think it is in America's interest to curtail that.

A (44:59)

Well, there was another aspect to that. China was also controlling the canals, both the Suez and the one the in in South America. You know, controlling the shipping ports and controlling the canals and also controlling. They have many, many container ships. So we meanwhile, our maritime has really kind of fallen off. I mean everything's under a foreign flag now.

B (45:24)

We don't even make ships. Do we even build ships anymore? I don't think so. Hardly.

A (45:27)

I don't think so. Yeah. And you know, it's China, Russia who are really behind all these crazy things going on and we are at war with them. Whether we know it or not. We're in a cold war.

B (45:41)

So let's play your third clip and then I want to play some China stuff.

A (45:45)

Ok.

B (45:46)

But you know what else no one wants? The Islamic Republic which controls Iran, slaughtering tens of thousands of its own people. The Islamic Republic, which has been playing a game of nuclear poker with the world for two decades, bluffing for another too, Hamas, which hurt both Palestinians and Israelis on October 7th 7th. Continuing to receive money and weapons from the Islamic Republic. There will never be peace in the Middle east while the Islamic Republic is in power. And who is this guy again? Is he, Is he a YouTuber?

A (46:18)

No, he's, he's got a substack and he does substack video sometimes.

B (46:21)

Oh, it's level up from YouTuber in my opinion.

A (46:26)

Yeah, I love substack because this is where I get all my news now and, and it's amazing what's going on around the country. I mean this is all hyperlocal. This guy has a really good take on the Middle east stuff. He's just fun to watch and I watch and read him on a daily basis.

B (46:45)

I have some reactions from the US regarding what's happening but it was interesting because I've been looking for what I found from Wion. Yes, I had to go to. Yeah, Y N Yeah, I had to go to the Indian news service and they see it very clearly and they just say it again. Exactly what's going on. Two months ago the United States captured the President of Venezuela. At present it is fighting an all out war with Iran and has already

A (47:12)

assassinated its supreme leader, Ayatollahi Khamenei.

B (47:16)

While America's stated objectives are different, these

A (47:19)

moves are increasingly being seen as an attempt to target one of its chief rivals, China.

B (47:25)

Now how is this linked with Beijing?

A (47:28)

Essentially, United States has targeted two countries

B (47:31)

that both shared China as their most

A (47:34)

important crude oil customer. Overall, 17% of China's oil came from Venezuela and Iran. Last year, for instance, China became the main importer of Venezuelan oil after Trump

B (47:47)

imposed sanctions on the country's energy industry in 2019. Last year's data indicated that 55% of Venezuela's crude oil was exported to China. And as per reports, around two thirds

A (48:01)

of Chinese oil imports from Caracas go to independent refineries known as teapots Were willing to flout sanctions in order to

B (48:10)

purchase crude oil at sharp discounts. Without America now asserting control over oil

A (48:16)

sales and revenue of Venezuela's oil, China's

B (48:20)

imports are set to be impacted.

A (48:22)

In case of West Asia, Beijing stakes are even higher.

B (48:26)

Half of its oil imports are from

A (48:28)

Iran, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, uae, Kuwait and Oman, which transport their crude oil through

B (48:37)

the Strait of Hormuz. And interesting to note that word came out of Russia, I think three, maybe four weeks ago that Russia was considering selling their oil in dollars again, which is interesting since they've been kicked off of Swift. But there's other payment rails they can use. Wyan continues here with some details. And then the timing of this is interesting. Last year, it purchased an average of

A (49:05)

1.38 million barrels of Iranian oil per day. On the whole, it brought 87% of Iran's crude oil. This accounted for more than 13% of China's oil imports. This works to Beijing's advantage as refiners reportedly get a discount of eight to ten dollars per barrel on the purchase of Iranian oil. What threatens China even more is the

B (49:30)

ongoing situation in the Strait of Hormuz,

A (49:32)

with the IRGC threatening to attack any vessel that passes through it. This might cause a devastating impact on China. China has now broken its silence on these speculations. When asked about the hindrance of oil supplies to Beijing owing to the present geopolitical situation, China's Foreign Ministry stated that the country will take all necessary measures to ensure its energy security.

B (49:57)

This also assumes significance in the backdrop

A (50:00)

of US President Trump's upcoming visit to China in March after a gap of 8 years. Remember where he will meet with his counterpart Xi Jinping? Trade is likely to be top on the agenda.

B (50:11)

Yeah, I think so. Hey, Xi, as you. We got your oil man. What, what do you want to do? You want to play ball with us finally or you want to don't want any oil? This is. This is. I find this to be very interesting. And the only other person I found who has figured this out is a huge Trump hater, and that is Anthony Scaramucci. Whatever you think of Trump, okay? And I think he's a despicable human being, perhaps one of the most evil people I've ever come in contact with in my life. He's trying to cut a deal. Can you explain to us why you think Trump went to war in Iran? I think ultimately it has to do with a broader chess match that's going on with China. And so if you really just step back, you're getting the oil from Venezuela to China, you're getting the oil from Iran to China. And I think this is a broader chessboard move. And it's not really just being run by him. It's being run by what I would call neocons. This is the great irony, because the President ran on no more forever wars, but this is the directive of neocons. This is something like the late Dick Cheney. If he was around, he would be so happy right now. There was no exit strategy. There was no refugee strategy. There was no evacuation strategy for our embassies. This was military adventurism at its finest. But I can tell you the strategies. Let's kill off all the theocrats and find a secularist, and let me see if I can bribe him to do what I want. And so where Trump is actually pissed off, he's not saying it, but I'm no Trump. He's pissed off at the Israelis because they keep killing everybody, okay? So they killed 40, 50 people. And Trump's like, what are you doing? I'm trying to find the guy that I can bribe, okay, to settle this thing down and bring him on our side. You see what's going on. And so he's mad at them because you have diverging objectives between the Israelis and the Americans. And again, in fairness to the Israelis, because of what the Iranians have done to Israel, and Hamas is supported by them and all this stuff, they want to put a hurt on all these people, but Trump doesn't want to. Whatever you think of Trump, okay? And I think he's a despicable human being, perhaps one of the most evil people I've ever come in contact with in my life. He's trying to cut a deal that will move the Iranians in out of the access of Russia and China. I mean, he loves Putin, but he's really more focused on putting a hurt on China. I think Scaramucci is right. I think Trump is pissed at the Israelis because they do keep killing people. In fact, they have a.

A (52:51)

Well, we're in the middle of a global power reordering that started in 2014, which were disrupting the international order that was put in place after World War II, and it's been eroding. It started with Putin invasion of Ukraine, the Russian interference in 2016 election. And that really did happen. China's aggressive expansion into South China, the military buildup by China across Africa and Latin America. China controls all the shipping channels, or they've been trying to, you know, it's a coordinated strategy to displace America as the dominant nation.

B (53:33)

Yes. And I think that Trump, if I just look at it objectively, and we'll get to the Israel thing in a second, If I look at it objectively, I think he knows the midterm's a loss. I mean, historically, statistically, it's a loss. There's also a lot of Trump haters in the Republican Party. He's pretty sure he's not gonna make it. He's not gonna make a House in a Senate. Senate. Maybe the Senate's still. You don't even know. I think he's just going. He's like, okay, I got to do all of this before the midterms, before the impeachment, before all the nonsense. All I can do at that point is executive orders and vetoes. I have a mission. It is in his mind, certainly an America first mission. And I think I agree with. Goes completely against what people think. He said no forever wars. Well, we'll see if this is a forever war war. And I think that's what's going on here. And he probably wants to wrap it up before July 4th so we can have a big celebration. I don't know if that's going to work, but that seems to be what's going on here.

A (54:38)

See, I really detest the entire again, country over party. Since when do news people and people on the main media, why do they constantly come up with things like, oh, he's a despicable human being, really. I mean, come on. You know, the guy's. He's got a lot of kids and his kids are all decent. He doesn't have a Hunter Biden in the group. You know, the whole thing about, oh, I know him. And, you know, and you know, the anti Trump stuff is ridiculous. You say it often enough. Of course people will believe this. I think he's just like every other president. He seems to have a bigger worldview than a lot of presidents. I mean, I mean, I personally, I'd probably equate him to Nixon when it comes to comprehension of the whole world playing field. What people forget is all these protests that show up are not organic. They're not real protests. They are funded by outside agents. To stir people up.

B (55:42)

Oh, yeah, well, no Agenda Nation knows this, obviously.

A (55:45)

Yeah. But it's like this constant. I can't listen to any of these newscasts without hearing the, you know, oh, he's despicable. Oh, I know him. He's horrible. You know, I know what he's thinking. You know, it sounds like a crazy girlfriend. You know, the crazy girlfriend that's like, you know, you know what you did. You know what? You know what, why I'm mad, You know, I mean, I'm just finding that to be why do we have this and what's the counter to this?

B (56:16)

Well, okay, so the only counter I see is the no Agenda show because I've been watching, watching Tucker very closely and you know, he's convinced that Israel dragged us into this. And I want to get to that in a minute. But for. He was on. He did a. I don't know if it was on his podcast. And Sagar came on his, you know, Sagar, when he used to be on the Hill. And this was fascinating because he was trying to convince Trump to not do this and went to see Trump. And he literally has taken on the view of the mainstream media that Trump is just watching Fox News News all day and only cares about people who say he's good. As I said, I flipped to DC Three times in the last month to try to convince Trump not to. This didn't work. It happens. I'm looking at this and I'm thinking, boy, this is not going to get better. So then I think I'll fly up again and ask him. I mean, I don't know if anyone else is doing it. So I'm going to try to just declare victory and go home. Like, you killed an 86 year old cleric. Let's just call that a win and then pull back. Back. And so then meantime, he, he got convinced to denounce me. Okay, I don't care. I'm gonna fly up anyway, right. Even though he's like denouncing me. So I call over there to see, you know, call someone who knows him to see. I said, I'm just gonna fly up anyway and, and tell him this because I think it's so important. And the person says, don't bother, because he's being shown polling that this war is like a 9010 win for him. And I said, I don't know where that polling is coming from. It's like, I guess you can make any kind of poll. And he's watching Fox News, which is telling him the same thing. And he's getting fake polling. I guess they're only polling Sean Hannity's viewers or something. And so I'm not sure that there's a sense, as if this was yesterday because I was getting so agitated and worried. I don't think that there's a sense that this is unpopular. Like, I think there's an information vacuum here. Okay, so then Sagar comes in and you know, and again, their heads are only with popularity, with polling, and they truly believe that the president is only thinking about that, has nothing else in mind. And Sagar makes it even worse. There's a massive information vacuum. And, you know, for the president and the administration who declared victory based on Internet and vibes and podcasts. Let's take a survey, shall we, of every podcast that he appeared on. And how do they feel, feel about the Iran conflict? You can look very clearly for yourself. Who cares? You can look at a lot of the polling of that same demographic which they were very excited about, young men in particular. How are they feeling about this conflict? And you know, if you were saying 90 10, it's not even true in the Republican sense. I mean, the latest one that I saw was like 72% Republicans, which, by the way, Mr. President and everybody in the administration, Bush had 93 for Iraq and how did that turn out for him? So let's not put, you know, put all of our eggs in the basket of just because Republican voters are here, that this is all going to be like sunsh and roses. And I also would not make the spurious claim that it's all about Iran. It's about compounding effects. The gas price effect of the Iran conflict is going to be dramatically more important to the White House's political chances in the midterms than anything that's actually happening on the ground. I don't think it should be that way, but that's reality. And I do think also your inclination to get him to try and declare victory, that's the correct move from a

A (59:42)

strategic perspective, an economic perspective, from every political perspective. You don't want want the entire country's

B (59:49)

national discourse focus on Iran. These guys are only thinking about politics only and about, you know, partisan politics. So. Yes, go ahead.

A (60:01)

Well, that's just it. The partisan stuff, I mean, is just disgusting. It's like, okay, you know, gee, are you for the Raiders or the 49ers? You know, it's this nationalism doesn't exist. What we have are two parties that are warring against each other. People who I have known for decades are like, well, I Can't talk to you because you're maga.

B (60:24)

Oh no, People, people that have been John's friends for decades won't even talk to him anymore. And not because he's MAGA is just because he's not anti Trump.

A (60:34)

Right. Which again, that is. You know, how can you look at the whole picture, guys? You know, it is a much deeper. There are so many moving pieces and all our media does is dumb us down. Well, I mean.

B (60:55)

Well, yes and no. I mean so what has been going on for a long time, three years now, but had been bubbling under for a long time and it was per. It's. It's almost like it was perfectly orchestrated. Israel controls America. That, that is what we all have been led to believe because AIPAC lobbyist for every single representative, every single senator and they control it all and they blackmail everybody with Epstein stuff. I actually looked up how many other groups have a lobbyist for every single representative and every single senator. Who do you think is the biggest lobbying group that outranks AIPAC almost 10 to 1 in money given to representatives to their reelection campaign?

A (61:44)

Well, I have a different view. Tell me who.

B (61:46)

National association of Realtors. Well, biggest lobbying group have a lobbyist for every single representative and senator. Next in line, American Medical Association. Same deal. Next in line. I mean the NRA comes way down at the bottom. Next in line, American Bankers association. And then a huge lobby from AARP because old people are important voting power block. So that's that. That meme has been created and has just been enforced and then oh well, look at all the Jews in Congress. They outrank their numbers by population, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So when Marco, Ru and I and this put me, set me back for a second. I wish we could have talked about it on Thursday but you know, John had to do something else. Thanks, John.

A (62:36)

Yeah.

B (62:37)

Rubio came up out and son said something about how this was started, why it was started and everybody. My X timeline was everybody spiking the ball you see around. The Jews dragged us into it. Israel did it. And here this is a clip from France 24. They have the best overview. And then I, I want to give my take on this because I've done a little, I've looked a little further than just AIPAC. When Donald Trump ran for president in 2016, he ran on a promise to extract the US from so called forever wars like those in Iraq and Afghanistan. We should have never been in Iraq. We have destabilized the Middle east. But in just the first year of his second term, Trump has launched military operations in seven different nations, and the US has now engaged in its largest military conflict since the invasion of Iraq in 2003. A recent poll by Roy showed that just 27% of Americans approved of Trump's actions in Iran. And while 55% of Republicans approve, some cracks are emerging in Trump's MAGA base among supporters who say the war goes against the whole idea of America first, marjorie Taylor Greene, who resigned from office after clashing with Trump over the Epstein files, wrote on Twitter, I did not campaign for this. This is not what we thought MAGO was supposed to be. Be shame. And Erik Prince, the Trump backer and founder of Blackwater, said in the Post, I don't see how this is in keeping with the president's MAGA commitment. I'm disappointed. Other Republicans reacted with outrage after US Secretary of State Marco Rubio provided this rationale for taking military action in Iran. We knew that there was going to be an Israeli action. We knew that that would precipitate an attack against American forces, and we knew that if we didn't preemptively go after them before they launched those attacks, we would suffer higher casualties, republican House member Thomas Massie from Kentucky wrote, the administration admits Israel dragged us into the Iran war. That's already cost too many American lives and billions of dollars. Tucker Carlson, the right wing influencer who the Atlantic reports met with Trump in recent weeks, tried to convince Trump not to be pressured by Israel. Carlson telling Trump, you need to stand up to Israel or else you're going to be destroyed and the country is going to be destroyed, adding israel is a country of 9 million people with no resources. Why are we taking orders from them? Democrats are trying to seize on all of this, especially with primary contests already underway in some states and in the run up to the November midterm elections, they're trying to portray Trump as more focused on foreign affairs and starting wars abroad than solving economic problems at home. Okay, so first I want to play the original piece that what Marco Rubio said, because when I heard it again I had the same reaction, like what? What are you saying here? And then I had to listen to it again. And then on a hunch I talked to Rob the constitutional lawyer who is a former jag, so you know, military lawyer. And so I was, you know, Rubio was a smart guy. So why is Rubio out there saying something that can easily be be interpreted as oh well, Israel dragged us into it? Here's what he said. States conducted this operation with A fair goal in mind. I haven't got a chance to see a lot of reporting. I don't understand what the confusion is. Let me explain it to you and I'll do it once again as clearly as possible. Perhaps you'll report it that way. The United States is conducting an operation to eliminate the threat of Iran's short range ballistic missiles and the threat posed by their navy, particularly to naval assets. Okay, so first of all, right there, I'm like, why is he saying that when we have a huge armada down there? The President's been saying we're coming to help you, we're going to bomb the crap out of them, we're going to get rid of these guys. Now Rubio is saying, saying you're wrestling a lot with papers, Mimi.

A (66:37)

Oh, sorry about that. Let me toss that to the floor. Sorry.

B (66:41)

It's okay. I just want to make sure that you're still with me.

A (66:45)

I am.

B (66:45)

And so he's, now he's saying something that sounded technical to me and was only about taking out their short range missiles and possible nuclear bombs. That is what it is focused on doing right now and it's doing quite successfully. I'll leave it to the Pentagon and the Department of War to discuss the tactics behind that and the progress that's being made. That is the clear objective of this mission. The second question that's been asked is why now? Well, if there's a. There's two reasons why now. The first is it was abundantly clear that if Iran came under attack by anyone, the United States or Israel or anyone, they were going to respond and respond against the United States. The orders had been delegated down to the field commanders. It was automatic and in fact it bear to be true because in fact, within an hour of the initial attack on the leadership compound, the missile forces in the south and in the north for that matter, had already been activated to launch. In fact, those had already been pre positioned. The third is the assessment that was made that if we stood and waited for that attack to come first before we hit them, we would suffer much higher casualties. And so the President made the very wise decision. We knew that there was going to be an Israeli action. We knew that that would precipitate an attack against American forces. And we knew that if we didn't preemptively go after them before they launched those attacks, we would suffer higher casualties and perhaps even higher those killed. And then we would all be here answering questions about why we knew that and didn't happen. So I listened to this And I'm thinking, why is Rubio saying this or is it just true? And the conclusion shows up in the filings. So if this was a so called preemptive war where we had just said we're deciding to bomb Iran on, then the War Powers Resolution would have popped up right away and then Congress would have control over the timeline. 60 days plus 30 days to unwind. You notice that that's not happening, even though you know, of course, Massie and you know they're trying to do it. But it can't happen because the US filed a Section 51 article, Article 511 of the UN Charter saying that we were defending because the Israelis struck. And of course we know the Israelis took out 40 guys in one go. And so we had to immediately defend ourselves. In my opinion, this, this technical language that, and I checked this with Rob, the constitutional lawyer, he's like, wow, we got to find out who's doing stuff over there. Because he said this is one of the smartest legal moves he's ever seen. SCENE so that the President is not hampered by Congress to get done whatever he wants to get done. And that is why Rubio was so specific about it. Because of course we knew the Israelis were going to attack because that was the plan. You attack. And then we'll say, oh, they were attacked. So we've got to immediately counter strike because they're coming for us. And that's how they got away with not having having the War Powers Resolution enacted. They may still try a little bit, but the Senate already turned it down. So that is why that happened. But the way it's taken is just, it's amazing.

A (70:08)

Tonight, the White House pressed to clarify its shifting explanations for why the US went to war with Iran. 24 hours ago, Secretary of State Marco White Rubio said the administration believed Israel was going to attack Iran first and was concerned Iran would then retaliate against

B (70:26)

the US There absolutely was an imminent threat. And the imminent threat was that we knew that if Iran was attacked and we believed they would be attacked, that they would immediately come after us. And we were not going to sit there and absorb a blow before we responded.

A (70:39)

Rubio's words setting off a firestorm.

B (70:42)

I find it very disturbing that we are committing this nation to war, war based upon a decision by even though a staunch ally, and I'm a supporter of Israel, but I don't think anybody should drive our decision to go to war, but the interests of the United States.

A (70:57)

Today, when I asked the President about it, he contradicted Rubio Mr. President, did Israel force your hand to launch these strikes against Iran? Did Netanyahu pull the United States into this war? No, I might have forced their hand. You see, we were having negotiations with

B (71:13)

these lunatics, and it was my opinion that they were going to attack first. They were going to attack. If we didn't do it, they were going to attack first. So if anything, I might have forced Israel's hand.

A (71:25)

Late tonight, Rubio was asked to explain what he said 24 hours ago.

B (71:29)

The President determined we were not going to get hit first. It's that simple, guys.

A (71:33)

It comes amid growing concern from some of the President's core support supporters that he took the United States to war after long promising he would not. This is what he said during the 2024 campaign.

B (71:44)

She said, look at him. Listen to him. He's going to start a war.

A (71:49)

Listen to his rhetoric.

B (71:51)

He's going to start a war. I said, no, no, no, my rhetoric

A (71:55)

is going to keep us out of wars.

B (71:58)

So that I believe him. I think that's what happened. It's like we set it up. We needed to have the COVID so that Congress couldn't stop this. This, because he has to do whatever he wants to do, and Rubio is the fall guy for it.

A (72:14)

Who's getting bombed currently? I'm sorry, you know, let's look at who. Who's actually suffering from all this. You know, we've got bombs going on. We've got, you know, the IRGC sending bombs into, you know, Kuwait and into, you know, Qatar and into Saudi Arabia and into to Israel. And I think they've had a few go off in Iraq, you know, places that they're just, they're not even guided. I think they're just. And they're not, they're no targets. They're just hitting whatever they hit. So, but meanwhile, when everyone says, oh, what if we get attacked? Their bombs can't get to us. Unless they had a nuke. And if that's what the step of this timeline was, you know, I don't think the American people would be told, hey, guess what? Iranian. Iran. Iran has a nuke. And we have verifiable information that they do have. They've created one that can get to us that would make me say, yeah, go bomb them.

B (73:14)

Well, I've been hearing the nuke next week for, you know, at least seven years, eight years. I mean, that, that's been an ongoing thing. Maybe, maybe not. But they're. They're pain in the butt.

A (73:26)

Well, yes, they are.

B (73:27)

And, and China and The oil and no, it had to stop up.

A (73:33)

I have a real hard time with Tucker being called a right wing influencer because I think a better right wing influencer would be Osmond Gold.

B (73:44)

Oh, boy. Your boy Osmond Gold. Yes.

A (73:47)

I love Osmond Gold only because he has some of the best videos I've ever seen. And he's, he's. And he's just completely unvarnished and, you know, and yet we have a lot of. See, I see it from a different perspective. I'm on the bottom. I see everything from a very hyperlocal thing. And what I'm seeing is that's going on are all of the money that's coming from through ways that you can't imagine, such as. And let me back up. So I know you're familiar. This will sound completely off topic, but I'll get to the point. So I know you're familiar with the Chilean sea bass. You know, it's everywhere. It's in restaurants.

B (74:29)

I've seen it. Yeah, I don'. Know anything about it.

A (74:31)

Well, it, it was renamed. It was renamed for marketing purposes.

B (74:37)

Like Chicken Kiev became Chicken Keef.

A (74:41)

Well, it more like it's originally known as its real name is Patagonian Toothfish. And it is not in the Bass family. It was renamed so people would buy it. The biggest snow job in this country are nonprofits because. Oh, God, it sounds so nice. Some of these little ways, you know, they're, they're going to volunteer and they're going to do good things. No non profits. Take government, especially NGOs. Take government money, local government, from our city level to our county level to our state level, to our federal level. They get money in them. They immediately set up a couple of other nonprofits that have similar names. And that money goes to lobbyists. It goes to political campaigns. Sure, it goes. So, so there's all this money. And it also goes to podcast.

B (75:30)

Podcasters.

A (75:32)

Not. Yeah, but not the ones you want. Not here. And so what we're seeing is that we're being influenced. We are eating propaganda. Every bite. I mean, everything that we have is flavored with this propaganda, which is why people who are just doing impartial news content are saying, oh, well, he's a right wing influencer. Oh, well, you know, you know, he's. He's maga. And I know what the president's thinking. This is all stuff that should make you just your ears turn off and for you to look and find. Let's find some other versions of the world, because I think it's Far more sinister. I mean, the fact that people. The fact that we had a, you know, Southwest flight, you know, 2094 yesterday, that whole incident on there.

B (76:21)

I don't know anything about it.

A (76:23)

I have a clip.

B (76:24)

Oh, oh, she's got a clip. All right. Okay.

A (76:29)

Yeah, yeah, It's. It's called Hands up, Heads. Hands down. Heads up, hands down. Whatever you'll see.

B (76:36)

Heads up, hands down. Yeah, I got it. Stand up. Let's go, everybody. All right. What was that?

A (77:01)

That was a Southwest flight that was going from Nashville to Fort Lauderdale for spring break, and the SWAT team got called, and those. That was the SWAT team coming down the aisle. There's a ton of videos of people. And it's funny because people can't quite get it right, whether it's hands up or heads down or heads down, hands up. So they're yelling this. There's four guys that come on in full tactical gear with guns and everything, yelling that. And then if we go to the Southwest Flight 2094. Oopsie. Explains in a statement, Southwest says it acted out of an abundance of caution over what turned out to be a misunderstanding of a customer's behavior and that

B (77:43)

it apologizes for the misunderstanding and delay. A source with knowledge tells NBC News

A (77:49)

the incident stemmed from a man who

B (77:50)

had set a timer on his phone to pray for Ramadan. Yeah. Surprised this hasn't happened in Texas yet.

A (77:59)

80 minutes, sitting on a plane while the plane was swarmed. And then they took everyone off and they searched all their baggage, and they did all this thing. They pulled this guy off roughly, and then he was like, what? What? What the hell?

B (78:14)

I like a source with knowledge. That's. I want to be a source with knowledge. That's what I want.

A (78:18)

Yes. When did we hear this before?

B (78:21)

Clock boy,

A (78:24)

it's ramping up. Oh, yeah.

B (78:26)

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

A (78:28)

The fear. Fear, fear, fear, fear, fear.

B (78:29)

Big time here in Texas. Big time. You know, it's like. And I haven't looked it up at. Tina mentioned, hey, you know, there's schools now in Texas who are putting in halal kitchens. I don't know if it's true. I have an issue with that in general for any type of special food. But it is ramped up. It is real. And I know where it's coming from. It's coming from that whole General Flynn, Defense Intelligence Agency corner. And the whole idea is, vote Republican. We will save you from evil Islam. Now, there are definitely pockets of problem problems, as there are everywhere. But you constantly hear, you know, Plano and Dearborn, Michigan, Yeah. And then of course, we have Mandami. You know, he's a communist Muslim. You know, we're not Europe. That took 25 years of open borders for that thing to really. And you know, now it's like, hey, well, Islam kills people. They rape women. No, that's nut jobs. It's nut jobs, right?

A (79:34)

It is. And that's just it. You know, it's like, don't. What we're doing is we're ascribing to one extremist group for a whole population. It's like saying, you know, you know, there's some nutty Christians. Who are you talking about?

B (79:50)

Fredericksburg, baby. That's where we are. The Jesus freaks that's here.

A (79:55)

You know, it's like, we aren't keeping. We used to be more educated into knowing that. Okay, you know, we're talking about some extremist groups now. Extremist groups can cause a lot of problems. I'm seeing little things popping up on this. The small things that I watch, I watch a lot. I read a lot of substack. I watch a lot of YouTube stuff. One of my favorites was Tyler Oliveira. Who? I just. I just like his long form documentaries. He does. And actually I have a clip of him of what just happened, happened now to him that is trying to inflame people. And it's trying to. Yeah, it's the whole thing about, you know, he's got a good following. It's been. This thing has been rebroadcast everywhere. It is another one of the. It's a media propaganda push because it makes no sense otherwise. And I'm seeing lots of this happening everywhere. And it's really starting to alarm me. So, yeah, let's play Tyler alone.

B (80:57)

24 hours.

A (80:58)

That's how long it took for Patreon

B (81:00)

to delete my account after I uploaded a video titled I Exposed New Jersey's Jewish Invasion. No warning, no first strike, no option to take anything down. Patreon account gone. Deleted overnight. Over the last few years, I've made videos about every group of people you can imagine. So Molly's in Minneapolis, Haitians in Springfield, Ohio. Corrupt Christian megachurches. Pakistani Muslim gangs in England.

A (81:28)

Incest families in Appalachia.

B (81:30)

Indians throwing cow poop at each other. Drug addicts, pimps, prostitutes. And not a single platform blinked. But the moment I made a video about a Hasidic Jewish community in upstate New York that uses welfare to support families of up to eight to 10 kids, sponsors pulled out.

A (81:47)

Old school.

B (81:47)

Old sponsors even called me, demanding that I cut out Their sponsorship from videos that are 2 years old. And the ADL even has the audacity to publish an article saying that my video harkens back to age old anti Semitic stereotypes for asking Hasidic Jews what they do for a living. And if they're on welfare, how do they afford 8 to 10 kids? Here's what I've learned. When they can't call you a liar, they attack, attack your name. When attacking your name doesn't work, they pressure your sponsors. When you don't need the sponsors because you have the direct support of your viewers from websites like Patreon, mysteriously your Patreon gets deleted. Yes.

A (82:33)

You know, it's, it's, I'm seeing it from the top down. It is all about slanting people's view and, and assuming that people aren't going to look other places for their news. So, you know, everything that's said in the big mainstream media, I can't even, you know, I don't watch tv, you know, I watch everything.

B (82:53)

How can you be on this show if you don't watch tv? Media deconstruction. Mimi Dvorak. What is up with that?

A (83:01)

My focus is hyperlocal and I'm looking at, you know, I think the only thing we can do, we have no control over the feds. We have no control over, you know, the state government. We do have control for our county and city governments and we need to start fixing that because they are just as crooked. Yeah.

B (83:17)

Oh yeah, that's for sure. I just want to wrap up the Iran stuff with giving John some props because he literally said on the show, before he exited the stage for a moment, he said the strategy here is to keep killing guys who pop up until we get one we like. And it turns out to be true. I think you probably want to speak about war rather than this, but this is very important. This is very important and we're doing

A (83:47)

very well on the war front, to put it mildly.

B (83:51)

I would say somebody said on a scale of 10, where would you rate it? I said about a 15. And we're going to continue to do well. We have the greatest military in the world by far and they, that was a tremendous threat to us for many years, 47 years, they've been killing our people and killing people from all over the world. And I think we have great support and I think if we didn't do it first, they would have done it to Israel and give us a shot if that was possible. And if we didn't terminate the worst deal, one of the Worst deals ever made. The Obama nuclear deal.

A (84:27)

I call it the Obama nuclear deal

B (84:28)

where he gave everything to Iran. So we're in a very strong position now and their leadership is just rapidly going. Everybody that seems to want to be a leader, they end up dead. And it's, it's an amazing, amazing thing that's taking place before. So, so yeah, everyone who wants to be a leader winds up dead. And then he's asked, well, who do you, who is your choice? He's, he's actually, I think he said close consultation with me, otherwise it doesn't happen. And then here's what he said. I think this was when he was the German President.

A (85:06)

Mr. President, what's the worst case scenario that you have planned for in Iran?

B (85:11)

Well, I don't know if there's a worst case.

A (85:13)

We have them very much beaten militarily

B (85:18)

from the military standpoint. They're still lobbying some missiles. At some point they won't even be able to do that. I guess the worst case would be we do this and then somebody takes over who's as bad as the previous person. Right. That could happen. We don't want that to happen. That would probably be the worst. You go through this and then in five years you realize you put somebody in who is no better. So we'd like to see somebody in there that's going to bring it back for the people.

A (85:45)

Do you have someone in mind right now? Because you said all the people you

B (85:48)

did have in mind have been taken out. Well, most of the people we had in mind are dead.

A (85:53)

So, you know, we had some in

B (85:55)

mind from that group that is, is dead. Back to Scaramucci. Yeah, he's pissed at the Israelis. Stop killing guys who might be the guy. And now.

A (86:04)

Well, we have.

B (86:05)

Yeah.

A (86:07)

Well, I think it's funny that the way they've been killing them is by bombing them because these guys, because of the whole pager thing that went off a few years ago, they're afraid to use their phones and they're afraid to have pagers and they're afraid to, to. They have to meet in person. So they meet in person and then kaboom.

B (86:23)

Another group, they may be dead also based on reports. So I guess you have a third wave coming in pretty soon we're not going to know anybody.

A (86:34)

Is he an option at all in your mind?

B (86:35)

I guess he is. Some people like him and we haven't been thinking about too much about that. It would seem to me that somebody

A (86:42)

from within maybe would be more appropriate.

B (86:45)

I've said that he looks like a very nice person, but it would seem to me that somebody that's there, that's currently popular, if there's such a person. But we have people like that. We have people that were more moderate. You know, these were radical lunatics. And you know what they get? They get nothing. All they do is kill people. So the name he mentions there is the son of the Ayatollah. No, no, no, no, no, it's not Rezi. No, it's not Rezi. No, he does. He doesn't like him at all. Listen to this report from France 24. Well, there's no name being given as of yet, but sources within the regime itself, which were divulged to one of France 24's Tehran correspondents earlier said it the man will be the. The man cited by Satan and cited by Satan parlance of the Islamic regime, that Satan is the United States, and in this specific instance is Donald Trump. And Donald Trump did indeed mention Mujtab Al Khamenei, who is the son of the late Supreme Leader, as the successor. Now, this name has been bruised about quite a bit over the last few days. The younger Khamenei, who's 56 years old, was not killed in last week's attack that killed his father and also his wife. Now, Israel as recently as yesterday said it believed he is still alive. Khamenei is someone who's got quite a lot of support within the Revolutionary Guards, of which he is a member himself. He had actually been suggested as a possible successor before his father's death. And apparently Ali Khamenei was actually opposed to the son's candidacy because he did not want to return to hereditary rule, which he feared might actually further erode the credibility of the mullahs in the eyes of the Iranian people. So you go look at this guy. And so he's in the irc, he's more moderate. His dad didn't want him for reasons of hereditary. Okay, but there's some other details that came out. An interesting thing, though, is that last week, on the very day that the war started, Bloomberg carried an investigation that alleged that Mujtaba Khamenei had a wide range of luxury property holdings across various European countries, including Spain, Germany and the United Kingdom. Now, he's not named as the owner of any of these, but Bloomberg established that he was indeed basically the shadowy hand behind just the person who is listed as the owner is Ali Ansari, who's an Iranian businessman, who's a property magnate, and who was sanctioned Last October by the United Kingdom has not yet been sanctioned by either the United States or the European Union. So he could be the guy. He's in the ircg. He could maybe control them. He's not a mullah and Trump likes him. He's been cited by Satan.

A (90:10)

Yeah. But if you listen to all of the Iranians that are all, you know, Iranian, Americans, Iranian in the UK they're not keen on any, any Khomeini at all. They're keen on having the, the, you know, shot the, the Shah, the Shah's son, to come back in as a figurehead until they can have a normal election and create a, the, so the

B (90:37)

so called Crown Prince, as they call him.

A (90:40)

Yeah. And, you know, he's a nice enough guy. I think he has a good, he's obviously a spook.

B (90:46)

He's obviously working, working for either us or the Brits or both.

A (90:53)

Yes. But at the same time, that's, that's what people in Iran have been chanting non stop now at all of the protests. They're looking for him to come back.

B (91:03)

Is it possible that these are protests like the ones we see in America?

A (91:07)

No, they seem more organic because they didn't have Internet when they were still protesting. So there's that.

B (91:16)

Here's PBS NewsHour on Reza Pahlavi. Pahlavi, yes. President Trump met with the German Chancellor today at the White House. We saw him take questions from reporters. One of the questions he got was who could lead Iran next? What did he say? This was the first time we've heard the president take questions from the press

A (91:34)

on camera since this strike was launched over the weekend.

B (91:38)

And now that the Supreme Leader has been killed, there's a question of who's going to lead the country. He was specifically asked today in that

A (91:44)

Oval Office meeting about whether or not the Crown Prince, Reza Pahlavi, the exiled Crown Prince, the son of the former Shah of Iran, could lead the country.

B (91:53)

Here's what he said. It would seem to me that somebody

A (91:56)

from within maybe would be more appropriate.

B (91:59)

I've said that he looks like a very nice person, but it would seem to me that somebody that's there, that's currently popular, if there's such a person, but we have people like that. But the President has also said that many of the other options that the

A (92:19)

administration was looking towards as potential successors in Iran have also been killed. Now, we heard yesterday from the Secretary

B (92:27)

of War, Pete Hegset, that this is

A (92:29)

not a regime change war. So still questions about who succeeds there in Iran.

B (92:35)

So I Think I kind of go back to Scaramucci. Trump wants somebody who can actually get something done and who he can not bribe, but who he can threaten. Like, I will kill you if you don't do what I say and who we will kill. And I don't think he wants to kill Pahlavi. He's like, I don't wanna kill that guy. And Trump does not like him because he said, don't come to Mar? A Lago. I'm not going to meet with you. I have no time for you. You seem like a nice guy. Trump does not like him for whatever reason.

A (93:03)

Well, I think, no, he can't just step right in. He doesn't know what's going on. I mean, if you remember, the Shah of Iran had his secret police known as the Savate. And the Savate were really interesting to see. They weren't that secret. You saw them everywhere and they were all exactly six feet tall and they all wore those little flat top police caps and these uniforms and they all had, you know, Fu Manchu mustaches and they all looked identical. And they were, you know, frightening people. I mean, they were. Everybody would whisper about them, you know, you know, don't get on the wrong side of them because they were the secret police who would haul you out of your home or they put you under house arrest. The Ayatollah Khomeini was originally under house arrest for many years. And matter of fact, the head of the Savate would have dinner with him all the time. He was friends with Ayatollah Khamenei. So an Ayatollah Khamenei went into power. He was the first person shot. But the entire Savat was then became the IRGC's arm and it got much bigger. Now, the Savat was UK and CIA trained. And yeah, you need to know who the keys are there because they still exist. So you need to. And you know, unfortunately, you know, a military like that, it's like, whoever's the general sure will work for them. So that's something that the, the Crown Prince would have no knowledge of. So it's going to have to be. They need someone for the people and then they need someone who knows all the working mechanics, who's willing to change size or to save a skin. That's the way I look at it. I mean, it's like. And who really runs any country, you know, it's never the figurehead.

B (94:47)

What it's all what. President Trump's responsible for everything, everything going wrong is his fault. It's him he's doing it.

A (94:56)

Yeah, yeah. So how'd the country run when we had Biden,

B (95:01)

Jake Sullivan and all those people were running? They were with the auto pen. We all know how it went.

A (95:06)

Exactly right. So it's like, eh, okay, you're making a horrible point.

B (95:11)

I don't want to think about it that way. Horrible, horrible hor. Horrible point.

A (95:16)

Well, I mean there's more than we are privileged to know because we are just the, the peons who just provide money for them. I have a good view of the world.

B (95:27)

Oh, oh, by the way, I, I'm. And I'm saying by the way, too much. I, I do want to play this because this is your neck of the woods. This popped up on my radar. I was like, oh wow. Hold on. If I find this clip. Here we go. So this is Washington state, very similar to, to Texas, no income tax. But wait, this crazy tax has got to go. Demonstrators dig in for the final days before a state income tax likely gets passed into law. We have many counties from Washington state

A (96:05)

that are here saying this is not what we want.

B (96:07)

There's other directions we can go. The so called millionaires tax would collect 9.9% of annual earnings above a million dollars. Though some Republicans are certain the income threshold will be adjusted to apply to everyone, not just the wealthiest, they have no intention of keeping it at a million dollars. Passage in the Democratic controlled legislature seems imminent and the governor says he will sign it. So. So opponents are scrambling to introduce some 11th hour amendments. So we still have the opportunity to try to amend it and it would be skinning it down, shrink its reach. Representative Jim Walsh says Republicans also want to give the public a chance to weigh in. Another key reform we'd like to get on as an amendment is allow the people to vote on the matter. If it does pass, a court fight is likely over the constitutionality of a tax that doesn't apply evenly to everyone.

A (97:00)

We're here to make it very loud

B (97:02)

and clear that the people don't want this tax.

A (97:05)

We've said so 11 times in the last hundred years.

B (97:08)

Despite the opposition, Democrats say the measure helps balance the state's regressive tax system while offering more targeted relief for working families. So we go now to our source with knowledge of the situation, Mimi Smith Dvorak, who lives in the state and I'm sure has some hyper local information about this.

A (97:26)

Well, first our Washington state constitution bans income tax. So what they've done now is they backed off and said, well we won't even take this up until the next legislative year in 2027. So they're putting it off. Now. The biggest promoter of this is this lobby group known as the Washington association of Cities, which every city, every town, I'm in a Podunk town, they all give tons of money to this and everybody belongs to, to it, are pushing for it. So we'll see what happens. And as far as voting, we're all mail in voting. And there's a bunch of nonsense with that.

B (98:05)

Yeah, yeah. Where's Tulsi? When are we going to figure out all this fraud with mail in voting? We need to figure that out.

A (98:11)

So if you want some, some more alarming Washington news, I've got news you won't get anywhere else. Okay, so it says Washington news bigs.

B (98:21)

Okay. Our southern resident orcas only eat fish. That's one of the reasons why there's so few of them. Their diet is not very divers. They eat the salmon that is dwindling off of our coast. A couple of researchers found some southern resident orca dorsal fins that had been eaten and torn off the animals in Russia. And they believe that bigs orcas or non resident orcas are now hunting and eating potentially our southern resident orcas. Which is amazing because it is thought that the southern resident orcas don't have any natural predators. Wait a minute. So Russian orcas are eating our orcas and we're eating them.

A (98:57)

Exactly. We aren't eating them.

B (99:01)

I know people who won't eat tuna fish because they say, no, no, dolphins get mixed up in it. We can't have that. Dolphins.

A (99:09)

Well, maybe in this case, I mean, it's like, you know, who's covering the orca war?

B (99:14)

Right, the orca war. I'll write that one down. Hey, how about we, we thank some people because.

A (99:23)

Absolutely.

B (99:25)

We have an incredible list. As we said, anyone who note for John, we will read that note. And we had the give John a reason to live donation. And holy mackerel. I mean, people have just come out in droves. It's so beautiful. I'm not going to do a big, you know, who put the C and whatever in orca.

A (99:51)

Yeah.

B (99:52)

But I will take a look at the trolls and see how many trolls. Yeah. 1841. There you go. We're getting back up there. Meanwhile, Mimi, you're a, you're a fan favorite. You're drawing people in. Beautiful, beautiful.

A (100:04)

Well, I'm not John, but I'll do my best.

B (100:09)

You're doing a great job. And so we are value for value on no agenda. Which means whenever you Feel that you got value out of the show. And I think Mimi actually brought quite a lot of value today. And she'll be bringing some more value in if you'll come back.

A (100:26)

Oh, no.

B (100:27)

In the next few.

A (100:28)

Absolutely. You're stuck with me until John's back.

B (100:34)

You can do that with time, talent and treasure. And one of the ways that you can use your time and talent is by organizing meetups. And we do have some great meetups. Report that Darren and Eli the coffee guy had their meetup in Chicago. But you can also make art from. For us. And so we want to thank MVP, who did the artwork for episode 1848. We titled that one Podcasts are Down. Everybody knows what that means when the podcasters down. And this was a. I mean it was borderline grotesque. The picture of the heart, it didn't look like a very healthy heart to me. And the title was breaking JCD has a Heart. So we appreciated that. Mvp, that was well done. And of course, the treasure. We're going to go. Do you have the list in front of you? I mean, I can just do it.

A (101:24)

I do. No, I have. I do have the list in front of me, but.

B (101:28)

Okay, so we'll. We'll do. We'll do it like we always do. I'll start it off with Dreb Scott, Archduke of the Cloud chapters. Now, he sent this in for last Thursday show and it was his birthday. March 4th, he says the only day that gives a command. March 4th. 4th was my birthday. Please add me to the birthday list. So he's added belated today. Thank you for the best comedy podcast in the universe. Thank you for continuing to provide thoughtful commentary on the news. Your hard work is appreciated by many. Please accept my bitcoin donation. He sent in $1,234.56 in the Bitcoin. Your hard work is appreciated. My bitcoin donation via strike in an amount that equals 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. No jingles, no karma. Thank you for your attention to this matter. And we.

A (102:15)

You thank.

B (102:15)

Thank you. Drebscott. That. Now you take over.

A (102:20)

Oh, me?

B (102:21)

Yeah, that's how it works.

A (102:22)

Okay,

B (102:25)

you just. Just read them. Just.

A (102:27)

Alex, Alexander Gelman.

B (102:30)

Wait, hold on. Hold on a second. Where do you get Alexander? Yes, I'm sorry, you're right, you're right, you're right. You got it, you got it. You're on.

A (102:37)

Okay.

B (102:38)

Sorry.

A (102:39)

$1,000. He's from Kotuku, Tokyo, and there's no note.

B (102:46)

We won't do all the double up karmas because there's a lot of no notes today, so I'll do these three in a row because they all came in with $888.88. Eight is John's favorite number. Mimi and John share eights. You were married on 8888, I believe.

A (103:02)

At 808.

B (103:03)

At 808, of course. Alex Van Der Hanks. I'll do it in English. Cedar Hill, Tennessee. Brandon man in Hanoverton, Ohio. And Alicia Julian. Oh, that's part of the Julian clan, sir. Julian and Alicia. Thank you, Alicia. She's in Virginia now. They've gone back to their old spookland, I guess. 8 8, 88 8. Thank you so much.

A (103:31)

Okay, so I get. No, I get to read the long one. Thanks. Sir Paul and Dame Heidi Schreiber from Queen Creek, Arizona. 888.88. Listener of no Agenda and DHN Unplugged since the beginning. To say John's absence left a void in all our lives this week is a drastic understatement wishing JCD a speedy recovery and sending prayers and all the love in the world to John, Mimi and their family, as well as Adam and the keeper. We love you all.

B (104:04)

Oh, very nice. Dame Catherine, the crypto granny of Bangkok comes in with 8.

A (104:08)

8.

B (104:09)

8. Course she did that with bitcoin. John may have found the perfect way to get a slew of donations. I know this will bring him a smile and we'll know how much and he will know how much we all love him. Get well soon, John. Dame Catherine, cryptogrammy granny of Bangkok. Man, we gotta do something about the dog. On the next show. Meanie Mimi.

A (104:27)

Ah, yeah, I know. I was trying to figure out what to do. Why don't you go ahead?

B (104:33)

Muzzle.

A (104:34)

No, I'm gonna move him. I'm gonna move him to a different room. Why don't you go to the next few?

B (104:39)

Yes.

A (104:40)

Okay.

B (104:40)

Barren Husky bottoms. No problem. Baron Husky bottoms. He's in Franklin, Tennessee. Sheriff of Leiper's fork. I thought 828 somehow made visual sense to me as I thought of a double bypass and had had John's favorite number in it as well. So I'm suggesting this as a double bypass donation. I think of no agenda similar to any other long term relationship that one would have. You have ups and downs, you get annoyed, you take a break. But. But ultimately there's a value and impact on your life that makes you pursue the relationship. I believe I started in the 300 somewhere and it hasn't always been easy. At one point. I was so enamored listening to you guys, everything you guys said adopted your every idea. Not good. Further down the road, decided that Adam was a plant by aliens and John was simply entertaining him because it was decent money and he didn't have to leave the house. Might be true, but with longevity, you realize there's value above and beyond the surface interaction of navigating any relationship. I may not listen as religiously as I once did, and I certainly don't agree as much as I used to. But Adam and John have added to my life experience. Even though we've never met, I'm sure Adam has intro'd Cinderella's classic Don't Know what yout've Got Till It's Gone. I sure have, many times. And hearing of JCD's excitement brought some perspective that we don't ever know when the trains are going to stop. I figure now is a great time to say thank you for the contributions of thought, humor and perspective that you've provided me over the years. Wishing a speedy recovery from JOM and hope that this small donation would cover at least two proportioned aspirin Baron Husky Bottom Sheriff of Lifer's Fork. Are you back?

A (106:17)

I'm back. The dog is now in a hermetically sealed room.

B (106:21)

Nice.

A (106:22)

In the quiet room, There were about 10 deer in the yard.

B (106:27)

Oh, yeah, I understand the problem. It's just. It distracts from your lovely voice.

A (106:33)

Ah. Okay. So where are we?

B (106:37)

Zarin Densel, Port Townsend. You're back. Backyard.

A (106:40)

Yay. It is. Did you read it?

B (106:44)

Nope.

A (106:44)

Want me to read it?

B (106:45)

Yep.

A (106:45)

Oh, well, that's Zarin Denzel, Port Townsend, Washington, 777.77. Since I was hit in the mouth, I got used to counting on no agenda twice a week. Wanted to send my best wishes for a quick recovery. Get well soon, John, and thank you and Adam for all that you both do. Jongle for John, whatever you choose.

B (107:07)

No, we have no jongles, only jingles. Zander Wallachia, Newton, Pennsylvania. 587.71. Hi, John. Get well soon. We need you for at least 40 more years. Just now topped off my contribution to become a knight. I can't wait. Yes, all knightings. We'll do the title changes, but all knightings will be done when John's back. So it's official. So you don't feel like he got gypped somehow? And Jay is keeping track of all those.

A (107:36)

So the next one is sir infinitis, I think.

B (107:39)

Yep.

A (107:40)

5, 26, 36. John, it took a Ticker event to trump the sad pumpy puppy face. That's what he said. It was a donation play. Haha. No Sirius. Happy to donate. Please absolve me from being a douchebag. It's been a while.

B (107:58)

That means a de douching.

A (108:01)

It's been a while since my last confession. I mean donation. Think this puts me either at baronet or baron status? Just let me know and I'll change my title if required. Pray you get well soon. You got this. We love you. Make sure you're nice to the nurses or they will yank on your Foley catheter. Sign Sir Infinitis, the greatest veteran owned medical device company in the U.S. gene

B (108:29)

Harris Winter Park, Florida $500. I'll do the next one since that was an empty one. Sir Zog of Elwood is back with 500 dol. He just got back from the Chicago area meetup organized by Eli the Coffee Guy and Darren o'. Neill. Solid guys indeed. And it was a great get together. It's amazing how quickly no agenda folks bond John. No exit strategies. We need and appreciate you too much, brother. Jcd, we're pulling for you. I'm going to ask for an F Cancer shout out for Melissa, wife of Sir Brian of the Green Hams. Melissa and Brian, we're pulling for both of you as well as here at the ZOG compound. Jacd, get that ticker rewired and get back into it. I might be be a little I might be behind a title adjustment in regards to donations, but that can be dealt with at a later date. So. Hold on a second. Where is he? Chris Herzog, Sir Zog of Elwood, Baron of the Deplane River Valley, father of Sir Azog and son of Sir Zog of Elwood. And of course we have that F Cancer for you. Here we go. You've got karma.

A (109:39)

Ooh, no note. Perfect. David Aranis, Escondido, CA $388.88 SLC.

B (109:51)

SLC. SLC even did a pronunciation guide for me. SLC with $360.59. This is a bitcoin donation. Adam, this started out as a hate listen after something bad you said about Linux audio on Joe Rogan. Especially now that we're all completely Linux. It also was a bit of a guilty pleasure due to your mouth. What? My mouth? I'm not sure what that means. Now full circle. Your spirit and your kernel are saved. John, the maker of all things is waiting for you. Draw near to him. His name is Jesus. Over two years ago, a Honda in front of me had a license plate. JCD3333. And I'm still a douche. One heart attack and I'm executive producing the next show. Well played, sir. Thank you for your courage. Four more years and I will give SLC a de douching.

A (110:48)

You've been de douched.

B (110:52)

Oh, and they wanted. We do have the. That we have the prayer Karma. Let me see. Hold on a second. I didn't have time to prep the whole. The whole spreadsheet. Here we go. You've got prayers. All righty then.

A (111:13)

And a goat scream. He wanted an F35 goat scream.

B (111:17)

My favorite. Okay. All right, hold on a second. F35 goat scream. Where is. Here we go.

A (111:33)

You've got.

B (111:36)

You've got karma. There we go. You got it.

A (111:42)

Okay, so I've got David. Yeah, that's Byrne. Okay. Staten Island, New York. I don't have my glasses on. Staten Island, New York. $345.75.

B (111:54)

$343.75 from Commodore G as well from Cincinnati, Ohio. Get well soon.

A (111:59)

JCD from Commodore G. And Jacob Schultz, Strasburg, IL. 333.88.

B (112:07)

Yes, we see your age or Christopher in Marshfield, WI. 33333. Thanks John Adam, wish me a happy. Wishing a happy 55th to my beautiful wife Diane on March 3rd. With this donation I will upgrade from Earl Christopher to Duke Christopher. Accounting attached. Yes, your. Your title will be recognized today.

A (112:30)

Trevor Gregory, Irvine, CA.333.33. Yeah, one of my least. One of my least favorite donations only because I always get lost when I'm putting it on the deposit slip.

B (112:42)

I love the three 33s. In fact, we got a few in a row. I know not have a note so I'll run through those. Morgan Medlock in Tacoma, Washington. Kevin Dills, Huntersville, North Carolina. Sir Erededarian, Trabuco Canyon, California. And Robert Rock, Eagle River, Arkansas. And then we have Nooney on ebay from Austin, Texas. 333.33. Dearest John C. Buzzkill, I do believe we'll be back to work sooner than you will like. Wishing you a quick smooth recovery with zero drama. All the best from the best vintage gold jewelry seller in the universe. Noonie. That's o o n I on ebay.

A (113:23)

Jonathan Ferris, Liberal, Kansas, $333.33.

B (113:28)

Jason Lewis from Macon, Georgia. 333. He says get well soon, but can't wait to hear the funny anecdotes and read the book on double Bypass tips after you finish the vinegar book. Good luck. Love you. Since Tech tv. So broken up by this, I forgot to say that my 333 donation made me ignite. Sir J. Lou of Macon, Town of the dead bugs. You will be knighted when you John is back. John praying continually for you, your family and your doctors. May they perform the procedure skillfully. May you, your family and your friends know peace and comfort through his through this time. Adam praying for you too that you would be supported, patient and nice to our favorite buzzkill. I predict record donations that should put a smile on John's face. Love you guys. Thank you very much. Jason

A (114:13)

Al. Lois Liebel, Newark, Delaware. 333.

B (114:18)

Jeff Hodge, Linfield. Oh, this is Australia, New South Wales. 321.

A (114:23)

Thank you very much, Sir Mike, 44 from Bethalto, Illinois. $314 in the morning. Thank you for your courage. Happy anniversary MA Hotty mob on PI Day. The tale is almost complete. This is being sent early as JCD is taking the exit strategy too literally. I curse John with 99 years in a. Jesus loves you and you know and knows your heart, Sir Mike, 44 J.R. not B.S.

B (114:52)

rob. Oh, there he is. Speak of him. Rob the Constitutional Lawyer, Spring Branch, Texas. $300.88. He understands how it works. Y'. All. Please accept my JCD PayPal donation of 388. Mimi, my family has personally seen the miracles of modern heart surgery. I promise you, everyone will be surprised at how quickly John bounces back. It's insane. John, we're all thinking of you and your family here in Texas. And to illustrates JCD's manliness, please play the no sweat off my balls. I think I have the sweat off my balls. Yes. Okay, we have that one. And what else does he want? And wash your hands. Oh, goodness gracious. Wash your hands. I don't know if. I don't know if I have that one anywhere. Wash. Oh, yes. No, I only have an end of show mix. I don't think we have that one as a jingle. Please credit this donation to my wife, the beautiful Maggie Carty. Says, Rob the constitutional lawyer, there's no sweat off my balls.

A (115:58)

And wash your hands.

B (115:59)

Yes, and wash your hands. Exactly. Exactly.

A (116:02)

Okay, so the next two are both three hundreds. It's Derek Winke from Clarkston, Michigan, and Edward Husky from Oakland, California, My old hometown.

B (116:14)

Sir Commodore Mark Bendikowski checks in from Warsaw in Poland. Get well, JCD. I'm praying for you with $300. And Scott Napier from Madison, Wisconsin, also 300. He love, John. Adam is clearly lost without you. I am, But I feel kind of safe with Mimi.

A (116:34)

Ooh, that's fun. Cersela Houser, Melbourne, Florida. $300. I feel the need to Don as I fell victim to the no agenda PayPal cabal claiming to have lost my last note. So I was compelled to send another donation. Well played, y'. All. Jingles Any collusion and answer the question. Go.

B (116:56)

Any collusion. I think the other one is an Ask Adam, and I do have it somewhere. Any collusion.

A (117:03)

Ask Adam.

B (117:04)

Ask Adam. Will he know?

A (117:07)

Oh, will he? Won't I don't.

B (117:13)

Answer the question. Go. Yeah, you go. Sir Keith, Fayetteville, Arkansas. $250. Our first associate executive producer. He says, get well, John. Get well soon, John. Sir Keith of Vietnam.

A (117:25)

And then there's Mark

B (117:28)

Blayvelt.

A (117:30)

Blehevelt Haddam, Connecticut. 250. Get better soon, John. The world needs you.

B (117:37)

Brian Massey checks in with a Bitcoin. 200. Well, not a full Bitcoin. $250, he says. ITM Message Income from Brian Massey Praying for JCD

A (117:49)

Steven Theron, Stoney Point, Alberta, Canada. $233.85.

B (117:56)

Brandon Baldwin, Mantis. What is. How do you pronounce that?

A (118:00)

Manteca.

B (118:01)

Manteca, California. 233. 33. 33.

A (118:04)

Manteca means lard.

B (118:06)

Lard. As in like Crisco?

A (118:09)

Yeah. No, like, like lard.

B (118:11)

Yes. Lard. Not Crisco. Lard. Gotcha.

A (118:15)

A.J. northfield, Minnesota. 222 and 69 cents. Get back to work soon. Four more years. A.J.

B (118:25)

a.J.

A (118:26)

A.j. a.J. Sorry.

B (118:27)

Jill Price, McKinney, Texas. 222 and 28 in the morning. John and Adam. It's been a long time since I've sent a noteworthy donation. John nearly dying to get us to donate kind of guilted me into it. Yes, I believe I reached damehood quite a while ago, but couldn't find the time to do the accounting. Well, it's finally attached. And I would like to be named Dame of the Fair Weather. Friends, as I sometimes fall off the listening wagon when you or John don't say what I want to hear. Sorry, but we all have our faults. My donation is not a row of ducks. It's four twos to make eight and then another eight, since eight is John's lucky number. Remember, please give all of my karma to John. Get better. Thank you both for all you do other than Jesus. You are the only two people I can listen to to keep me sane. By the way, Adam, I love you. But please learn how to pronounce Coleyville, Texas and Valparaiso, Indiana. I butchered it two in a row. There's Joe Price from McKinney, Texas. And what did she want again? She wanted just the karma for John. So we'll throw out a karma. You've got karma.

A (119:31)

So the next two are $222.22. It's John Davis from Brentwood, Tennessee, and Gregory Lambert of Overland Park, Kansas.

B (119:43)

And we have Sir Gordon Walton. Gosh, he must be a duke by now. He's in Austin, Texas. His whole family has no agenda titles. Row of Ducks. 222. Associate Executive Producer again for you, Edward knowles, Grain Valley, Missouri. 220. And this is a switcheroo for his smokin hot wife of 28 years who hit him in the mouth a couple of years ago. Since then and we've never had to talk about. We've never had more to talk about. And we haven't had a fight since. Well, of course not. The people who know agenda together stay together. Thanks very much to you both. Her birthday is March 27th. If you could please add her to the birthday list. Make sure you email us again so we get that on the birthday list. It's not easy to keep track of it that far in advance. I would be much. It would be much appreciated if you play her favorite ISO. I got. Well, you. He's asking for two things in a row. I got ants and fisting nuts. I can actually. We can actually do both of those. Let me see my.

A (120:48)

My favorite. My favorite one is. I've got ants too.

B (120:51)

Yeah, you don't like the fisting nuts.

A (120:55)

Reminds me of my tree. It reminds me of my youth.

B (120:58)

Just go for it, John, tell us you're not going to touch fisting method of eating snacks on an airplane. I see this on the airplane and it's very annoying and I think it

A (121:08)

will result in fights breaking out because

B (121:11)

it's just so annoying to watch. Guy takes his bag of peanuts and he throws a pile of them into his palm of his hand. And then he makes a fist around

A (121:22)

the nuts, around the nuts.

B (121:24)

And then he shakes his fist to try to bring a nut to the little hole. Stop. To the little hole. And then he throws a nut in his mouth. From his fist. From his fist. Then he does it again. He shakes and throws and shakes and throws. It is annoying as hell to watch. There we go. Ants and nuts. Congratulations. We are here to see, here to serve. Yes. Praying for a speedy recovery for John Heart emoji.

A (122:01)

And then there's Sir C pound sign

B (122:05)

of dot net Sir C Sharp.

A (122:07)

It's sharp. Okay. I don't know.

B (122:09)

It's a program programming language.

A (122:11)

Oh no, that's over my head. Today it's 210 60. Get well soon, JCD I have passed the threshold for baronet. May I please have my title change? Thank you for your courage, Sir C

B (122:26)

Sharp of net.net.net C Sharp is the programming language.net is a horrible Microsoft product. But don't email me. La jollassalt.com from La Jolla, California $210.60. Please read as from la jollasalt.com the world is a better place with the man who traded ties with the tech detective in it. What? Bring it home, buzzkill. You're on our prayer chain today. And we back on the podcast soon to come. Godspeed.

A (123:00)

From LA jollasalt.com Sir Don Wyndham, NH 208. 88. Get better, John Don, Viscount of the

B (123:09)

New Hampshire and E graph in Granville, Ohio. 208.33. No note. I'll take the next one. Lucas from V Vienna in Austria. Here we go. John, I just heard the news and made an instant donation. $201. Living in Austria, I always feel bad for people in the States who have to deal with high medical bills. Since this is my first time donating, I'd like to dedicate this contribution to your upcoming medical expenses. I wish you all the best and hope you're back on your feet and behind the microphone as soon as possible. I really hope your recovery goes smoothly so you can enjoy some of your good wine again soon. If you have a favorite Austrian wine, let me know. I'll mail it to you. I enjoy your stoic perspective on the world, and I love how you can turn Adam's how you can turn Adam furious with just a few words. Even though your purely American way of viewing things irritates me sometimes, I don't want to miss listening to you for another 200 episodes. All the best, Lucas from Vienna. P.S. i wish for the China asshole clip. I have that one. How does that work? When. Hold on, let me do the China is. There we go. China is. How does that work? John has Medicare. I'm praying.

A (124:21)

Yep, yep, he's got Medicare.

B (124:23)

So is this all taken care of?

A (124:25)

Nope, nope.

B (124:28)

Resounding nope. From Mimi, who clearly does the finances in the family.

A (124:32)

Yeah, It'll be about 60% that they pay and we get to pay the balance, so.

B (124:37)

Oh, my goodness, it's fun.

A (124:39)

So how do I turn you furious? With a few words. I'll have to work on that.

B (124:43)

You know, you gotta. John has it figured out. It used to be much easier. Now I have Jesus. So it's much harder to get me mad.

A (124:54)

Okay. I'll work on it. Okay.

B (124:55)

Please do.

A (124:57)

Michael Turek Post Falls, Idaho $0.28 Sir

B (125:02)

Dixburt St. Paul, Minnesota 208 first prayers for a speedy and full recovery. JCD has at least four more years of no agenda, if not longer. We hope so. Second, I request a title change from Baronet Sir Dixburt, Sachem of dudes name Ben to Sir Dixburt, Baronet of the blank stare. I've been out of it for 18 months and I'm not going back ever. Thanks, Sir Dixburt. And you're on the list for the title change.

A (125:28)

Matthew gebhart Highlands Ranch, Colorado $200 and $0.01 scent.

B (125:34)

And we have the big ones Scent is always good. West Spears in the Woodlands, Texas. That's up near Houston. $200 ITM John and Adam I'm helping a friend with a business idea. He needs some collateral to approach investors. I reached out to linda lupatkin@imagemakersinc.com to assist with this. We ended finding that a different approach to the develop to the developing this information and its structure is needed. But she took time to review the material and provide valuable feedback to get the this point that was of meaning, that was of meaningful. That was meaningful, I guess. And I wanted to provide some value back. This donation should be credited to Linda Lou. Big thanks. Four more years, Wes. Oh, that's very nice.

A (126:16)

Adrian Fabian, Lynwood, Washington. $200 and you get. You definitely get this next one.

B (126:24)

Sorry, where am I?

A (126:26)

Linda Loop, Atkin.

B (126:27)

Oh, 59. Thank you. Linda Lou Patkin says Jobs Karma. For competitive ed with a resume that gets results you just heard about her, go to ImageMakersInc.com Linda applies executive level positioning to career transitions at every stage. That's Imagemakers Inc. With a K. And work with Linda Lou, Duchess of jobs, writer of winning resumes. All the best from Linda.

A (126:52)

Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. Okay, so two are coming in at 200. It's Stephen O', Connell, Las Vegas, Nevada and Craig Pratt of Kalispell, Montana and Commodore.

B (127:12)

Surface tension. Night of the retail space is in Vero Beach, Florida. 200. No jingles, please. Just give me some John Karma. You got it.

A (127:21)

You've got karma. Two more at 200. Nancy Murphy from San Bruno, California and Craig Allen of Sacaton, Arizona.

B (127:34)

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A (128:20)

P.S.

B (128:21)

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A (128:31)

You've got Karma.

B (128:34)

Wow. Really nice. All of these supporters of episode 1849 will be, of course, credited along with that. The executive and associate executive producerships are real titles. They work in Hollywood. You know, I got a. A call from our Hollywood bigwig from Dana Brunetti.

A (128:54)

Well, he never calls me.

B (128:56)

He actually said, please give my number to Mimi because we're only. What are they, like, an hour and a half away from me? Oh, no, not from you. No, they're much further away from you.

A (129:09)

They're about 15 hours away, but okay.

B (129:11)

He said, please give my number. We'll be down there. Anything you need, we're happy to help out. He actually thought that because he had called John and John hadn't called, called him back, and he thought that John was mad because he had talked with me. I'm like, yeah, that sounds like John.

A (129:24)

Oh, no, that's absolutely it. That's why John, you know, had the heart attack. Yeah, yeah, he was mad.

B (129:29)

Brunette's talking to Curry. We can't have that. So be like Dana Brunetti and be an associate executive producer $200 or more and an executive producer, $300 or above. And of course, we always read your note when you send one in. Thank you all so much for the support for John. Thank you for the prayers, thank you for the love. We'll be thanking the rest of our supporters, which are quite a list. $50 a second segment. And again, thank you for supporting no agenda. Go to noagendadonations.com Our formula is this we go out, we hit people in the mouth.

A (130:08)

Shut up, slave. Shut up, slave.

B (130:15)

All right, Mimi, dealer's choice. What else you got in the hopper?

A (130:20)

Well, I have a James Carville, which I just found amusing, and I thought you might, too.

B (130:25)

Here we go. But she saw it attacking white males. And I'm saying, wait a minute. Let's stop. All right? In 19. In 20, 24, 72% of the people that voted were white. All right? That's just a fact. Of that, 72, probably 48%. 48 and a half were male. So it's somewhere around. I did the math on the thing. About 30, 33% of the people that are gonna vote are gonna be white males. Well, it's stupid to attack 33% of the voters. Right?

A (130:54)

He's talking. He's talking about Ilhan Omar. But I just thought, how'd you get 33%? I couldn't do his math.

B (131:01)

No, it's Carville, you know, but it's. This happened in Texas where Jasmine Crockett was running for Senate, and she was running against the. The heretic. I'll call him. James Talarico, who reads the Bible and says, yeah, you know, the Bible says it's okay to abort children. Yeah, you know, it's okay. And the reason is because she's a racist, and she's like, you know, white people are no good. Well, guess what, Texas, like, we're not voting for you. It's the stupidest thing. It's the same thing with other. Each. Elon Omar.

A (131:38)

Well, yeah. No, absolutely. And that. Yeah, she's annoys me to no end. The one thing I saw this week that just made me laugh is Steve Danes, who's the politician from Montana. He decided not to run again even though he's been, you know, representative since 2015. And out of the blue, this old video from 2021 show showed up, and I. It's. It's all about local shopping.

B (132:05)

Three years ago in Montana, meth was homemade, it was homegrown, and it had purity levels less than 30%. Today, the meth that is getting into Montana is Mexican cartel. It's no good. You need homegrown meth people. Wow, that's good.

A (132:29)

Which reminded me of the gnome commercial. I don't know if you watched it.

B (132:34)

Oh, yeah. You know what? Before we do that, let me play the lead into that, because this supposedly is the reason why Trump fired her. And this is from NBC. So this news, I think you can say is stunning, but it's not surprising. We know the President has grown increasingly frustrated by Christine Ohm's performance as the Department of Homeland Security Secretary, most notably after a series of events that took place over the course of the last several days where she was testifying before Congress. She had been asked a series of questions specifically about the role she played in approving contracts and notably one, a $220 million ad campaign that was used to encourage immigrants to this country to self deport. The Senator from Louisiana, John Kennedy, said, I that issue. The President was, in his words, quote, pissed. During the course of the questioning, Noem told Kennedy that the President knew about her decision to approve the ad campaign contracts. You can imagine that did not sit well with the White House, certainly with the President as well. And so that appears to have been the tipping point in this moment. There had previously been some frustration by the President as it related to Noem for her handling of the operations, the immigration enforcement operations that had taken place in Minnesota.

A (133:47)

Yeah, well, I have actually the clip that is Kennedy asking her the question in her response.

B (133:54)

Okay, hold on.

A (133:55)

That's no modern commercial.

B (133:57)

Okay. How do you square that concern for waste, which I share, with the fact

A (134:04)

that you have spent $220 million running television advertising that feature you prominently, Sir. The President tasked me with getting the

B (134:17)

message out to the country and to other countries where we were seeing the invasion come from, with.

A (134:22)

With putting commercials out that told them

B (134:25)

that if they were in this country illegally, that they needed to leave or we would detain them and remove them

A (134:30)

and they not get the chance to

B (134:31)

come back to America the right way. Yeah. So you have this commercial?

A (134:37)

Yes, I do. It says what? It's wtf Nome commercial.

B (134:43)

Why do I love these wide open spaces? They remind me of why our forefathers came here. Not just for its beauty, but for the freedom only America provides. I'm Kristi Noem.

A (134:55)

From the cowboys who tamed the west

B (134:57)

to the titans who built our cities,

A (134:59)

to the dreamers who chase the impossible,

B (135:02)

America has always rewarded vision and grit. Our greatness calls people to us for a chance to prosper, to live how they choose, to become part of something special. Anyone who searches for freedom can always find a home here. But that freedom's a precious thing, and we defend it vigorously. You cross the border illegally, we'll find you. Break our laws, we'll punish you. Harm American citizens, there will be consequences. But if you come here the right way, your American dream can be as big as these endless guys from President Trump and me. Welcome home. Yeah. I can tell you what's going on here.

A (135:46)

So she's riding on a horse with a certain amount of cleavage showing. And her boobs, of course, don't even bounce, so we know that they're fake.

B (135:57)

You say that as if that's a bad thing. Me, Amy Smith.

A (136:00)

Well, when you're riding a horse. Give me a break. So she's not. A hair is out of place. I mean, I know. I mean, I have. I've had horses. I have a horse.

B (136:08)

I thought you'd say you had fake boobs. Now we're talking.

A (136:13)

But it's like, you know, horse people don't have every hair perfect. She's got the little cowboy hat on. She's got this cute little outfit. And she's riding along up in the, you know, out in the woods. There's trees and there. Everything else. And she kind of buries the lead. If the message was, if you're here, get the fuck out. Oh, sorry.

B (136:31)

Wow. Oh, a rare F bomb. All right. Boom, there it is. Drop it.

A (136:36)

And. And for 220 million. I think that was the, The. The makeup and hair. And I also think the other part of that is my. Is who. Probably who was part of her campaign and who she is they're rumored to be hanging out with. And that's. And I have her. Her answer to the Senate when they asked her specifically about that. And that's. No. No answer.

B (137:00)

At any time during your tenure as director of Department of Homeland Security, have you had sexual relations with Corey Lewandowski? Mr. Chairman, I am shocked that we're going down and peddling tabloid garbage in this committee today. Yeah, that.

A (137:19)

That's not a no.

B (137:21)

No. Well, I mean, so here's. Here's what's going on. The way. Way I see it is fairly simple. I don't. I think everyone is just kind of walking past. First of all, I don't think Camo Barbie has been. When the show is not a big fan of her.

A (137:36)

Dog Shooter Barbie.

B (137:38)

Yeah, well, you know, but the point is. So the 220 million, that's obviously not just for the commercial, but it's for the ad buy. It's a big ad buy. So the romantic involvement that she calls garbage is well known that she's having an affair with Corey Lewandowski. Lewandowski, I think, at one point worked for Trump on his. Maybe his first campaign. He is a former lobbyist. You know, he's a, you know. Well, I guess people would call him a failed campaign manager. Doesn't matter. He is the assistant or the deputy secretary of Homeland Security. So there's a conflict of interest. But not having seen the commercial, but having heard it, she's running for president in 2020, 28. That's what she's doing. That's what Lewandowski is doing. And you don't do that without the President's blessing. That's what's happening. That thing was all about, look at me, I'm the female Ronald Reagan. Vote for me in 2028. That's. That's her mistake. Now. She became the. The special envoy, which eventually, when John's back, you will become the special envoy to the no Agenda show. The special envoy to the Shield of the INV. Americas. And I was looking at, what is this? What is this a real job? And I also think that because of the hearing and because of how Minneapolis looked, the optics of it, they needed blood. Someone had to bleed. And she got sacrificed and she knows it. And I'm sure Trump said, look, you gotta go. You're toxic. And I didn't like that of kind commercial. What are you doing? No one runs without me blessing it. And you're stupid for doing that. But I will make you the special envoy to the Shield of the Americas, which is this new group the President has put together, which feels a bit like the Board of Peace for. For the Americas. And I have a clip here from the President speaking at the Shield of the Americas event about Cuba, looking forward to the great change that will soon be coming to Cuba. He sounds like he had a vent in his throat. I don't know what's going on, but it doesn't sound absolutely. Cuba's at the end of the line. They're very much at the end of the line.

A (140:00)

They have no money, they have no oil.

B (140:03)

They have a bad philosophy, they have a bad regime that's been bad for a long time.

A (140:12)

And they used to get the money from Venezuela, they get the oil from

B (140:15)

Venezuela, but they don't have any money from Venezuela. They don't have any oil.

A (140:20)

They don't have anything from.

B (140:22)

People can't even. They land in Cuba, they can't get

A (140:26)

gasoline to fly out.

B (140:27)

They have to leave their planes behind and they want to negotiate.

A (140:32)

And they are negotiating with Marco and

B (140:34)

myself and some others, and I would think a deal would be made very easily with Cuba.

A (140:41)

But for 50 years, I've been hearing,

B (140:42)

as a little boy, I'd be hearing about Cuba. You know, Cuba's a disaster, but I've been hearing so much about Cuba. But Cuba is in its last moments of life as it was. It'll have a great new life, but it's in its last moments of life the way it is. And. But our focus right now he's on Iran. And we'll do that, I would say.

A (141:06)

What will you do?

B (141:07)

Take about two days off, Marco.

A (141:09)

No, he will.

B (141:10)

Maybe an hour.

A (141:10)

He'll take one hour off and then

B (141:12)

he'll finish up a deal on Cuba.

A (141:16)

That'll be an easy one.

B (141:17)

Yeah. There's another one that's been around since the Kennedy days.

A (141:21)

Yes. Cuba.

B (141:22)

Yes. So Kristi Noem is now Marco Rubio's secretary. I think that's basically the job she got.

A (141:29)

I don't know. To fading beauty queen for my tastes.

B (141:35)

Oh, how superficial of you. Yes, really superficial. Please, please.

A (141:42)

Yeah, her book wasn't very good either.

B (141:44)

So you read it? You read the book?

A (141:47)

Yeah, I read about four books a week.

B (141:49)

What?

A (141:51)

Yeah.

B (141:52)

Paper, Paper. Or do you. Is audible or.

A (141:57)

I, I do a lot of audible, yes. And a lot of. And I do read actual books. Yeah. And, and I, I, Some things I skim. I. She was a skimmer.

B (142:07)

What? She's a skimmer. What. What books are you reading right now?

A (142:16)

You asked me and my mind goes blank. I don't know. I'll. I'll give you a list.

B (142:21)

Send me the list. I do a little bit of tech news for a moment.

A (142:26)

Good.

B (142:28)

You know, I continue to be very deeply involved with trying to use large language models, coding with the AI and it is such a disaster because these things just lie tell you did something, you know, it's all about the guardrails. So you have tools and you can take tell the large language model to interpret what you want it to do. And it then is supposed to activate the tool and do what you told it to do. So that's, that's pretty much what all these AI companies are doing. Like Google, you know, they. Google knows how to search. Google, how to search YouTube transcripts, lots of other things. But if you're building something with any large language language model, you have to be very careful because it will. If it can't find a tool or it can't activate the tool, it'll tell you that it used the tool and here's the results. Because it had it somewhere in its corpus. I mean, it is a nightmare. And the war has been ongoing and it is a war between anthropic and the Department of War. And we, CBS had had a report on it which I thought was kind of interesting. The US military attacks on Iran were carried out with the help of artificial intelligence tools. From the tech company Anthropic. There's no evidence of this whatsoever, but ok. After the Pentagon announced it was ending their partnership. That's according to the Wall Street Journal. The Pentagon says it has no comment. Anthropic is the company behind the popular AI assistant Claude. The military used a government version for its intelligence and cyber operations, but decided to give it up after a disagreement with Anthropic over limits on how it could be used. Senior business and tech correspondent Jolene Kent spoke exclusively with the company CEO before the United States launched its attacks on Iran. We haven't received an.

A (144:21)

We sat down with Anthropic CEO Dario Amadei just hours after the Pentagon's deadline to strike a deal with the company over how their AI is deployed by the US military.

B (144:32)

It's about the principle of standing up for what's right.

A (144:35)

The Pentagon wants total access without restrictions. Anthropic wants limits on mass surveillance and of Americans and fully autonomous weapons.

B (144:45)

The central question, who should have the

A (144:48)

final say in how one of the world's most powerful AI is used by the world's most powerful military?

B (144:55)

Do you think that Anthropic knows better

A (144:58)

than the Pentagon here?

B (145:00)

One of the things about a free market and free enterprise is different folks can provide different products under and different principles. Our model has a personality. It's capable of certain things. It's able to do certain things reliably. It's able to not do certain things reliably. And I think we are a good judge of what our models can do reliably and what. And what they cannot do reliably. I was blown away by this. He's admitting it. He's admitting is unreliable, but it has a personality.

A (145:31)

Well, yeah, I use. I have a substack column. Well, I've got two, but. But I do my art with one of the little AI picture drawing systems and it's amazing how sometimes you get incredibly detailed like the background and the foreground and the style and you do all that and it's okay. It's not what I want. Other times, even though I do all that, it doesn't understand. Like my favorite was trying to do a thumb on a scale. I kept having just a thumb without a hand and then, and then it was like the scale didn't have a dial on it and then the scale had a hand on it. It was like, it just was like. It was like trying to hurt a cat. And you know, it's that. And then I do a lot of, you know, people are like going, well, you know, instead of reading all the stuff that you read, you should put it in and let AI summarize it for you. And it's like, okay. Sometimes it's okay. Sometimes it is just so off the mark. It's like, well, was it reading?

B (146:38)

What do you use for that, for a. For summarizing?

A (146:42)

I. Well, Claude, I've used. Claude, I've used. I've used pretty much everything because I just like to play around. I'm absolutely. I love the AI videos. I mean, I just am. I. I spend hours looking through those. I especially like the Cats with Guns.

B (146:59)

Okay.

A (147:01)

Yeah, I know it's Soros two cat videos, but, but. And I, I can now I've mostly just been doing it so I can see it and you can see AI just creeping in everywhere. You know, the commercials. It's in, you know, every. People are using the voices, you know, you can. But it's nice that you can spot the uncanny valley as far as using it as more than a tool. I think it's like, it's like basically it's giving a two year old instructions. You gotta look over their shoulder all the time.

B (147:29)

Yeah. The worst is if you, if it does something and you want to adjust it, it's impossible.

A (147:35)

Yes.

B (147:36)

It cannot, it cannot iterate with you. It gives you something, you might as well just give it the prompt again and, and you know, like, I'm feeling lucky. Let me see what happens. Darren o' Neill does a pretty good job though, with this prompting skills.

A (147:48)

He does an excellent job, you know. Yeah, but it's. I, you know, everybody's going, oh, AI, AI, AI. And I'm like, how is this different from anything we've had before? In some ways, you know, it's, it's like, you know, I thought having a word processor was a big deal when

B (148:05)

I was a kid. We had a typewriter with ribbon.

A (148:09)

Exactly.

B (148:10)

There's a second part to this.

A (148:11)

President Trump and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth both posted on social media Friday calling for all government agencies to stop using Anthropic's AI just hours before US strikes on Iran.

B (148:25)

I think it was made very clear in some of their statements, in some, Some of their language that this was retaliatory and punitive. If you had a moment with the president right now, what would you say to him? We are patriotic Americans. We have done. Everything we have done has been for the sake of this country, for the sake of supporting U.S. national security. We believe in defeating our autocratic adversaries. We believe in defending America. The Red lines we have drawn, we drew because we believe that crossing those red lines is contrary to American values. Disagreeing with the government is the most American thing in the world. And we are patriots in everything we have done here. We have stood up for the values of this country. Yeah, this is bull crap. They know, they know that this stuff is no good because OpenAI. Sam Altman, he jumped right in. Oh, oh, yeah, no, we'll sign with you, no problem. We'll take the contract and then three days later. You know, we shouldn't have rushed that on a Friday afternoon. We need to adjust some of the terms of the contract. It's not for altruistic purposes. Not because you don't want mass surveillance, because you know that it's just unstable. The stuff is not good. Now, does it work for code? I mean, there's, there's software engineers. Sir, Gene sent me a great video this morning. The software engineer. It's just like my life is over. And not because of his job, but the satisfaction that he would get from creating a product. And I understand this. I see software as an art, how you're, you know, you're coding it a certain way, you're deeply involved, you know, the entire guts of this thing. And sometimes it can take a year or longer to really ship a fully functional product, depending on what it is. It says now I just hit a button and it creates a product and the satisfaction is gone. And what's interesting is that I, as a non coder, I mean, I understand the concepts and I've done some Python scripting, but nothing. But I understand systems, so I know what I want and I know what the code has to do. I am getting tremendous satisfaction from shipping a product that is created with AI. So it's kind of shifting that oh wow, this is awesome type feeling from guys who used to, who did it for a living. And it's, and it's, it's really, it's. I feel the same with no agenda. Artists. We had a lot of great artists. They're all gone because they're not, they know that satisfaction of working for an hour on something or longer, you just don't. It's gone. And, and that is, that is the. So software is the same thing, it's art. And that artistic outlet is being destroyed. And it's just what it is.

A (151:22)

Except. Okay, so my family's been in this country since 1640. My, my great grandfather was a shoemaker in Lynn, Massachusetts.

B (151:30)

Wait, did he come over on the Mayflower?

A (151:33)

No, we were a boat after OR 2.

B (151:36)

Oh, one of those nondescript boats. Okay, yeah, whatever.

A (151:40)

So, so my grandfather was a maker during the changeover from the old, the sewing machines to, you know, steam powered sewing machines, whatever, the automatic sewing machines, from handmade shoes to the machine made shoes. And you know, I've read the old, old newspaper articles and all of the, the old editorials about how this is horrible because shoes will never fit your feet right. Things will never be right again. You know, the world has changed. Shoemakers were lamenting this, this who thing because, you know, it was ruining the business. Well, new tools do that. You know, they, they replace things. I mean, you know, I, I'm a, you know, I could type like a, you know, crazy person. I, I did teletype. I did all that stuff. And first trying.

B (152:32)

People are going, what's teletype? Tell here, I'll give you a te. There she is, Mimi Smith Dvorak. She is typing away. She's sending off information on the wire through the tele. Explain the teletype. Because people, people don't even know Michael Jackson anymore. So you might as well explain teletype.

A (152:52)

The teletype was this very large typewriter that was connected to a transmission device where you could send, it was like a, they had a modem and everything and you could send information across the telephone lines so the other party would get the actual copy of what you were typing. Now one time, and they were done by mostly Western Union who had the franchises. And they were very hard to, they were hard to push. You had to really push down hard on the keys. They were long travel, exhausting to use. Occasionally things would go wrong and people would dial the wrong number to get to you. So it was dial up. One time when I worked for MasterCharge, we got Henry Kissinger's misses going to the White House. And it's, it's just spitting out and spitting out and spitting out. And it was like, oh my God, it was at night. So we finally called around, we finally just unplugged the machine because we didn't know what else to do. And we called, we called the local FBI office and explained. And then there was a flurry of activity. And then these two guys came and put it, the whole thing into a black suitcase and then they left. I wished I'd read it. I really wish I'd read it. I had time. But teletype. So there was teletype. There was also, you know, I was a key punch operator too. We won't even go into that for punch cards. Yeah, I did punch cards. Yeah. Old technology. So whenever new technology comes, everybody laments the old technology. We all adapt. We find new ways to use it

B (154:28)

and more jobs are created somehow, always,

A (154:32)

you know, especially people who can master it early. And, you know, the whole Luddite thing doesn't work. I mean, you know, we've come a long way since monks were re. Rewriting the Bible and, you know, in the, the Gutenberg, you know, movable press. I mean, we, we should embrace IT technology. I think that this is good. It's just that it's screwed up because it's in the, in the early stages of it.

B (154:58)

I, I'm still thinking about the teletype. Honestly. I remember, I remember I did a demo once, Apple. I had an, I think Apple Link. This was before. This was very early Apple Computer Networks.

A (155:15)

Wait, was that the. Wait, was that the link where you put a telephone headset into the reader? The thing.

B (155:21)

I still, I still have my acoustic modem, thank you very much, from Radio Shack.

A (155:26)

Yep.

B (155:27)

I built my first one with my Sinclair ZX80. I built my first acoustic. Yeah, Buddy and I both had. No, that was after the. That was the Commodore. The Commodore VIC20.

A (155:39)

VIC20, yeah.

B (155:40)

And we worked an electronic store on Saturdays. And so we took home old telephones, pulled them apart, put them in little cardboard boxes. And so you just, you know, reverse the phone. The receiver, you put it on there. And it was, it must have been like 30 baud or something. And I'd press a key and it would pop up on his monitor. So. And it worked. It was very fun. But Apple Link, you could send a telex through Apple Link. And I remember demoing this at the place where I worked. Radio. Veronica. They had a telex, of course, you know, they were a media company. And I said, watch this. And so I dialed in with the acoustic modem. It might have been on my TRX. Do you remember the TRS 100?

A (156:25)

I do. I remember all those. Yeah.

B (156:28)

On. It had. I think it had like four double A batteries, ran forever with an LCD screen. And so you could log in, you could send the telex. And people were like, how did you do that? Say, yeah, it's the future, baby. It's the future.

A (156:42)

Well, okay. I worked for a Crocker bank in the online computer room. I was a telecommunications analyst. And we had mainframes and we had minis, which were kind of the. In between. We had Burroughs products. We were an IBM beta test site. And I had a couple friends who left to go. They were big Proponents of the micro. The personal computer. It was called the micro computer originally. And I was like, ah, that's not going anywhere. Who cares? You know, who wants, who wants.

B (157:17)

It's like Tina fans, famously. Tina, famously who, who would ever want a phone that they can use on the street? No one wants that.

A (157:30)

So, but so I, you know, and then I of course lost my job there for. Through a series of events and I went to work for a. An early microcomputer distribution company. So, you know, I got to see the Apple one when it was first introduced up on Vicente street street in Berkeley, you know, and, and you know, you know, Jobs was there and, and Wozniak was there and so was Captain Crunch. You know, all these people.

B (157:57)

Oh yeah, the. The freaker. The phone freaker.

A (157:59)

Oh yeah, he was just a freaker. He's still alive.

B (158:02)

Yeah.

A (158:04)

And you know, it was like I kept looking at him, I kept going, oh, yeah. And then people are like, oh, it's going to do all these things. And I'm like, yeah, sure, with switches.

B (158:11)

Look, you flip this switch and that switch and that's going to do something. This. Okay, well, enough old people talk. However, on the next episode on Thursday. This is a tease. You're going to tell us a story of how you and John met. Yeah, baby. I'm going to show my support by donating to no Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that.

A (158:34)

Oh yeah, that'd be fabulous.

B (158:42)

I'll just run down the list and I'll go as fast as I can, but where there's a note, I will mention it because people have a lot of beautiful things to say about John. $50 and above Mark and Renee Marino Valley, California. John, may God preserve you to the last day. Love, Mark and Renee. Dame Gunchit of the Inland Empire. Alan Bowes, Langley, British Columbia, Canada. Man, the exchange rate's getting worse from our banana Republic. Oh, he's probably 140. He's prob. An associate executive producer. I'm thinking that was definitely 200. Yeah. Sergey D. Baron of the Silly Khan Valley, san Jose. He's133.37. Here is elite hackerspeak donation with an extra three for good luck from the Baron of Silicon Valley to support the show and JCD's recovery. Riley in Huntsville, Alabama. 133. 33. Just want to thank you all for your courage and give out three douchebags for my brother, my brother in law, David Douchebag and my buddy Keith. Donate, you cheap bastards. We have Nancy Murphy, San Bruno, CA 13333 Adam Ward, Derby in Great Britain. 123-45-12345 Same from Clay Bacheviche in Miami, Florida. Dame Rita Sparks, NV 12345 ITM John, Adam, great show. Amy Squires, Los Gatos, CA 123 David Dolson, Houston, TX 100 Nathan Goldsmith, Tucson, AZ 105.35 Hatch from Gun Barrel City, TX 105.35 Best wishes, John. Get well, John soon with the same amount from Joel Donaldson and also 105.35 from Zark. 7 John, this is not an exit strategy. Get well and come back soon. He is the Knight of the Center Neptune. Then we go to the soaps family. Payton, Colorado $100.08, $50 per bypass and 8 cents for good luck. Heal up, John. Many blessings to you and yours from the Soaps family. The following are $100 donors. Baron Latican from Houston, Texas. Van Neumann, Bernalillo, Bernalillo, New Mexico Gadget Freak, 10, Western Springs, Illinois Peter Karnowski in Charleston, Oregon John D. Keckish in Chardon, Ohio Heather her in Gillette, Gillette, Wyoming Richard Lindquist in Sequim, Washington 100 get well, John. I had that Brisbane procedure in June and if I can do it, you can too. Carl Vogler, Dylan Beach, California Leroy in Pancheo in Santa Fe, New Mexico. Garnett Group LLC in New Hampshire. Brian Massingale in Stanley, North Carolina Peter Beebe in Lexington, Massachusetts Alex Robles in Chula Vista, California Bruce Claassen in Santa Clarita, California. Anonymous from Montclair, New Jersey. My old stomping grounds. Get well, John. Doug Dodge in Camarillo, California 100 Mark Hardwick in Alito, Texas. 100. Carlos Estrada in Spring, Texas. Sir Kaz Brighton, Hove, England Health Karma for John C. Please, Sir Kaz. Been listening to the show for about nine years and never donated. Well, you get a little. You've been de douched. It always takes something like that for some people to show up, doesn't it? Kenzie in Canyon Lake Tech, Texas. Listen. Oh, that was, you know. He says get well. Oh, I'm sorry. That was Kenzie. Sir Kaz said health karma. It's both green. So I messed it up. Kenzie had not Kenzie. All right.

A (162:23)

Douched.

B (162:24)

John buell in Vista, California. 100. Then we have Commodore pumps who donated 88 plus 88 in fees and that turns out to 9,364. Same from Chris Daly. 9,000, 364. Get well John, now we have the 8,888s. Jeremiah Spiewak from Highland Park, Illinois. Brenda McKenna, Danvers, Massachusetts. Percy Grunwald, San Francisco, California. James Treadwell, Driftwood, Texas. Vic Pepe. Hello, Vic from South Lake, Texas. 88. 88. Dorothy Schrode in Corvallis, Oregon. Jill Price, McKinney, Texas. Raymond Samori in Madison, New Jersey. Bobby Jackson, Bluegrass, Iowa. Kelly Tester in Clinton, in Arkansas. Isa McCorkle in Anchorage, Alaska. Randy Wallen, Georgetown, Texas. Steve Mann in Plymouth, Michigan. Sir Robert of Two Sticks. He sent an 8,888 PayPal gift for John's quick and full recovery. Want to add how important and valuable no Agenda is to me. He has a long note, but he knows all about. Oh, he met you guys at the museum. He met you.

A (163:33)

I remember him.

B (163:33)

And JC and Theodora. Yes, beautiful. Alex Lyscars, I think. Portland, Maine. 8888. Harry Kelly Tate Kovola. That's Florida, Sir Bebop Night of the Frozen Tundra. Get well you soon, young man. Baronet Baylor, Grafton, Wisconsin John, my family and I are praying for you. I know you'll bounce right back. We all can't wait for you to be bumping the mic again soon. No Love Light just yet. And he is Baron Baylor, aka Sir Camera. Chris Keith Larson, St. Petersburg, Florida Kevin McLaughlin. There he is. Oh, he strays from his regular 8008. Or maybe there's another one down the list. He is the Archduke of Luna, Love of America and Boobs. Concord, North Carolina Nicole Weirman, Tualatin, Oregon Mike Rinnaker, Dubuque, Iowa Lauren Matthew Ware, New Hampshire John Wynn, Austin, Texas Rachel Rankin Bettendorf, Iowa Gabri Shelton, Pensacola, Florida Sir Darth Penguin, Lockport, Illinois For John the Tech Grout. Get well soon. Prayers for you. God bless with love. Marcella Barden, Monday, Texas Benjamin Lato in Waterloo, Ontario, Canada Christopher O', Rourke, Oak Lawn, Illinois Amy Mullen, Bastrop, Texas David Wynn, Rockville Center, New York Chris Corovo, Driftwood, Texas Natalie Taylor, Lebanon, Pennsylvania Jonathan Dennison, Blaine, Washing. Michael Raguse in Tustin, California Whitney Santos DiLoretto in Boring, Oregon Morton Kiernan in Congan's Lyngby. That's in Denmark. Thank you, Denmark. John Scales in Ocala, Florida Alex Castellanos in Phoenix, Arizona Catherine Moore, Austin, Texas Ellie Z, Philadelphia Victor Petrovsky, West Orange, New Jersey Scott Riley, Meridian, Idaho Ryan Helling, Goleta, California Kenneth Warford in Gardner, Kans. Ben Janssen in Round Rock, Texas Catherine Morton, Charlotte, North Carolina Walter Hilbeck in Essen, that is in Deutschland. Aaron Chamberlain, Dayton, Ohio. A long nude. A long letter that he sent. But he goes back to the twit days. And he of course wishes John well. Onward to where am I here?

A (166:01)

Rachel.

B (166:02)

Yeah. Rachel Dragoszewski in New York. Julian Barlow in Farnworth in Great Britain, Sir Robert Charles and Baronetti's Christina Pearl in Deputy, Indiana. The first time Christina Pearl met Adam, she told them she'd be more nervous meeting JCD because he's a unicorn. The dream is still alive to meet him. Can't wait to meet you at the next meetup or sock hop. Sir Charles and Baronettis Christina gerald Preston, Bennington, Nebraska Ernest Moseley, Grand Bay, Alabama John Peters in Lear. Oda O', Lear in Belgium Rachel T. Fogletons, Mandeville, Louisiana Allie Miller, McKennyville, California Steven Harley in Warrenville, Illinois Linda Loupatkin comes in with another donation. Castle Rock, Colorado Bruce Hutchinson, Anthem, Arizona Aaron Weiss Gerber in Bend, Oregon Moon Consulting, Cameron, Montana Stephen Corbine in Woodway, Washington Matt King, Cherry Hill, New Jersey oh, the cool people live there. Earth and Sky Camp. Earth and Sky Camp Memphis, Tennessee Stuart Fawcett, Liverpool, in the Merseyside in Great Britain Julie Schuller in New Braunfels, Texas Joshua Baggett in Fayetteville, Tennessee John Kumar, London in the UK Amy Harmon, Biltmore Forest, North Carolina Jennifer Williams, Davy Crockett National Forest in Texas Ryan Stewart in Baldwin, Missouri Paul Erskine, Lake Forest, Washington Lake Forest Park, Washington Kenneth Kyle Holtz in Ohio Semper Peachy LLC in Sharerville, Indiana Dave Swanebeck, Johnsburg, Illinois Tobias Real Estate Services in Gardner, Kansas Jonathan Elmore, Baton Rouge, Louisiana Ryan Zukowski in Medford, New York DVT in Cumming, Georgia Jack Schofield in Yanketown. I think it's Yanketown. Yeah. Florida Christian Sutton, Clovis, New Mexico Alan Huffman, Urbandale, Iowa John Lumpkins, Richmond, Virginia David J. Langford, Bountiful, Utah Simon Libazzewski, New York Jonathan Hess, Nuremberg, Deutschland Damon Kashajak in Hedenhausene, Denmark Daniel Fisher, Gwinn, Michigan John Hoiber in Bristol, Tennessee Jason Shepard, Trinidad, Colorado Gabriel Adams, Newport, Tennessee John Foley, Chicago Heights, Illinois Jim Larson, Owen Sound, Ontario Albert Peter Jurien Verhey in Dorne in Utrecht in the Netherlands Chris Bolton in Newcastle Under Lyme. That's in Staffordshire. Rebecca Flynn, Saunderstown, Rhode Island Rose Lincolns, Landisville, Pennsylvania Aaron Stafford, Pennsville, New Jersey Kyle Raney in Woolforth, Texas Doug Andrews, Sykesville Maryland. Monica Sini Figureski in Rigo Park, New York. And there's Dame Asrin, Sir Mark there, of course, the Grand Duke and Grand Duchess of Tokyo. And all of the disputed islands in the Japan Sea. And they say, dear John, you are the original chick magnet. Thousands of women have a secret crush on you. We hang on every word that comes over your lips. So get that healing dopamine mean spike going and get better soon, I hope. Raven comes to visit, sending you much love and a squadron of kisses from Tokyo. Sorry, Mimi. I love you too. That's Day Master talking, of course, Valerie. Ray Plano, Texas Jay Rectorek in Weatherford, Texas Matthew Merlino, Atlanta, Georgia. Stephanie Lukasik in Santa Ana, California. Ben Colbeck in Fitchburg, Wisconsin Anna Stewart, Oklahoma City Paul Smith in Anchorage, Alaska Kyle Friedrichson in Sarasota, Florida Michael Kern in Cypress, California. Marissa Dance in Fairfield, Ohio Chad Ferber, Red Hook, New York Allison Ostrander in Round Rock, Texas, Maryland Plaza Garwood, New Jersey Brian Adelin in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. Svirnas Murty in Culpeper, Virginia. Lacey Bird in Becker. That's in Lake Mills, Wisconsin. Julian Erickson, Swamp Scott, Massachusetts Susan Erickson in Burton, Michigan Frank Laura in Milford, Michigan Douglas Radcliffe in Dinwiddie, Virginia. William Fleming, Tulsa, Oklahoma Neutron Drive, Canyon. Hi. Paul Neutron Drive, Canyon Lake, Texas. Sir Dr. Sharkey, St. Peters, Missouri. Eric, England, Talala, Oklahoma Charles George in Evergreen, Colorado Javier Vasquez in San Diego, California Sir Dr. Sharkey, Stuart, Peter's, Missouri says it made a major typo. My first message to John. So was my punishment. And made a second donation with a correction. It's okay, brother. Spencer Pollack in Collinsville, Oklahoma Peter Barthol, Bellingham, Montana Mary, Minnesota, Minnesota. I'm sorry. Thank you. Mary Brune in McKinleyville, California George Hade in Trumansburg, New York John Foner in Pleasant Shade, Tennessee Max Turnquist, Sharon, Massachusetts Eric Allen, Woodland Hills Rebecca hall in Serviteri, that's in Italy. Serviteri, Roma in Italia, West Stewart, Mesa, Arizona Inger, Mo, Lafayette, Colorado Brian Tucker, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada Tim Powers, Washington, Oklahoma John Mahala in Columbia, Pennsylvania Steven Susan Sill in Du Quoin, Illinois Matthew Lossee in Odessa, Florida Christopher Pauley, Verona, Wisconsin Podhouse Studios, Dos Palos, California Ray Aaron in Artesia, New Mexico Dan Kesterson, Colorado Springs David Van der Brant in Tennaert, in the Netherlands. Daniel Vautour in Toronto, Ontario Michael Belcher in Yuba City, California Brian Bollinger in Roseville, California Rob Van Dyke in Near Low, the Netherlands Linda Michelle Galley, In Phoenix, Arizona, dame Tony Helfs comes in from Oklahoma City. The show isn't the same without you, John. Your heart attack made me realize just how much I depend on you for my twice weekly dose of sanity and humor. Get well soon. Anonymous from Los Angeles, California. John, you have made a bunch of great content over the years. I've been following since Silicon Spin. Get well, get better soon. Please don't become too crotchety too late. Right. Colin Metzler in Fresno, California. Get well soon, John. I've been listening to no Agenda since I was 14. I'm turning 30 this month. You've helped shape my worldview and for that I'm eternally grateful. I pray for John's salvation and that God does not call him home too soon. No, no, no. Randy o', Rourke, Bradford, Pennsylvania. Praying for a quick recovery. Sir Latte in Bremerton, Washington. Get well soon, John. From Sir Latte of Bremerton, Spencer ney in Weaverville, North Carolina. Eric W. Carson in Richland, Washington. Sir, mix with Michigan Bitcoin donation. 8888. Get well soon, John. Stay well. Adam and Mimi. David Keys, Riverside. And this is 88. Jesse Johnson from Woodbridge, New Jersey. 88. What a time to be deduced. You've been de douched. Sending my get well prayers to JCD during the holy month of Ramadan. Liam, Rachel, Rachelle Kim, I think Littleton, Colorado. Get well. A love and prayers for John, Sir Galtaran with 8438. Get well soon, John. Cameron Linga in North Branch, Minnesota. 8194. Then we have the boob donations. Kevin McLaughlin comes in twice. He is the Archduke of Luna 28008. Thank you very much. Dakota Walker, Boise, Idaho with the boob donation. Giraj Kojak from Prague. I love these international donations. Boob donation Suzuki 808. Dear John, wishing you a speedy recovery. Surrounding my bust. Surrounded by busty nurses. My tip of the day is try Dr. McCarthy recommended nattokinase capsules for your cardiovascular health. Yes. Is that a thing?

A (174:20)

Yeah, it's something. And yep, we're. He likes natto so good.

B (174:25)

Okay, thank you. I got to take a drink.

A (174:27)

And it's. And it's not stinky or slimy. It's actually delicious over rice if you get the right brand.

B (174:33)

Sir Herb lamb, Sugar Hill, Georgia. 8008. Then we get the lucky 7 77. 7 77. From Duane Spellman in Rehoboth, Massachusetts. Greg Miller, Indianapolis, Indiana. Mutter says get well soon. JCD Dame Patricia Worthington, Palmetto Bay, Florida. $75.00. Jim Crane, Missouri City, Texas. 75. Get well. Prayers for John C. And his wife Mimi. Stephen Hutto, St. Petersburg. 75. Sarah Hubert in Mitcham, Surrey. That's in England. 73. 26. Dame Dana Carroll in Laughlin, Nevada. 70. 22. 27. Arno in Umsal Fane. 7132. Listening to the show now when Adam was talking to Mimi. Many health karmas for John. Wish him all the best that he may be healthy again soon back to his old self. Also strength to his family and Adam in this uncertain time. Pete lachanze in Oviedo, Florida. 69.96. Dame Tanya. Good to hear from you, Dame Tanya. New York, New York. John, you've given us quite a scare. Scare? Glad you were able to have the surgery so quickly and are on the men. Sending many hugs from Dame Tanya. Scott otto in Boonville, Indiana. 6886. Sir Hugger of Kitties in Zoundum. 6789. John, get back into the house. Donation 6789. 6789. Make John soon. Fine. Big hug from my kitties. William Jarvis, Mount Juliet, Tennessee. 6,769. Chad Hewitt, Folsom, California. 6,640. David Cox, Austin, Texas. 6,325. Les Tarkowski, Kingman, Arizona of Small Boop. 6,006. Steven Felice, Ranchos Palos Verdes in California. $60. Elmer the Pelmer with $60. Sent to the bitcoin and get John out of the hospital. Bitcoin donation. Get well soon, John. Steve Banstra, our pilot, Nashville, Tennessee. Sir. BNA I think it is. It's 5993. Andrew Walker, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania for 5888. Sir David Wicker, sir, by his grace. Jacksonville, Florida. 58 and one dime. And there he is again, Sir, by his grace with 58 and 10 cents. God never leaves us or forsakes us. He loves you and we do too, Sir, by his grace. Nancy Murphy, San Bruno, California. 5721. Kelly Hubbard, Plymouth, Minnesota. 5678. Daniel Toriello, Charleston, South Carolina. 5678. Andrew Garland, Muncie, Indiana. 5623. Eric Marshall, Klamath Falls, Oregon. 5555. Health karma for John. Brian Furley comes in with double nickels on the dime. So does Chris Chambers from London, Ontario, Canada. Sir, Tooth Fairy. Double nickels on the dime. Valparaiso, Indiana. Prayers coming your way, John and To Mimi for having to put up with you while you're healing up. 5510. From Sir Jules Reed in Salem, Oregon. Brent Morgan, West Point, Virginia. 55. Pat Patrick McKenna, Carnation, Washington. 55. John Siebert. 55. Wishing John a speedy recovery with this Bitcoin donation of 78,410 satoshis. Excuse me. $55. Troy Funderberg, Missoula, Montana. 55. Christopher Depp, Georgetown, Kentucky. Hope you get better soon. Carson Bush, Sebring, Florida. Get well, John soon. Love from Sebring, Florida. John Bossano, Madison, Alabama. 52. 70 72. Kyle Hendrickson, Woodstock, Illinois. 5272. Kyle Morrison, Duncan, British Columbia. 5272. Cripes, peace and love To John Adam and family from Vancouver island. Brittany Miller, 5272. She's from Trinidad, Colorado. Peter Benardahl, 5272. Sir Pierre. Get well soon, he says. 5272. Anastasia Treckels, Valparaiso, Indiana. 5272. I've been following a career for decades. As a longtime donor of my meager 1212 per month, I probably will surpass Baroness status. But I'm just thankful for the sanity you and Adam bring to the world. Get well soon. Trent Larrabee, Manchester, NH 5158. Robert Ryan, Norton, Ohio. 5118. Sir Luke in London in England. Collective karma for all. Sir Luke, the Earl of London in the Southeast. Josiah Thomas, Anarchy, Iowa. 51. Saga and Ronnie from Sweden. I'm not quite sure. It didn't come through. What do you think that is? It's Sweden, but we don't know. We don't know what place it's from. It's Unicode is what that is.

A (178:55)

It looks like a. An Ikea furniture piece.

B (178:58)

Oh, that's what the Swedes love. Those jokes never get old. Dave Jackson, Akron, Ohio. Get well soon. Buzz killed. That's Dave Jackson. He is the man from Sweden. School of Podcasting Dana Daywalt, Woodstock, Georgia. 50 33. William Hamblin, Hockley, Texas. God save John C. Dvorak. He did. David Deloria, Santa Clarita, CA 5005. Corey Bennett, Hercules, CA. 5001. And here are the 50s. Daniel LeBoy, Bath, MI. James Sheremetta, Napanok, NY. Joseph Lefrano in Victoria, TX. Sir Alex Zavala, Kyle, TX. Edward Mazurek in Memphis, TN. Steven Ray, Spokane, WA. Glenn Kukas in Ashaway, RI. Jody Zolman in Topeka, KS. J Wing. Jake Wingo, and Rolling Meadows, IL. Sean Murray in West Chicago, IL. Jacob Ali in Wichita, KS. He says we proclaim healing in Jesus name. Amen to that. 1st Platoon, 1st Squadron Leader, 2 to 6 Evcc. Say when. Those guys are serious. Joshua Gladstone, Amherst, Massachusetts. Theodore Hart in St. Joseph, Michigan. Wayne Morell in Orlando, Florida. Brant Wessel in West Salem, Wisconsin. Stephen Crummy, El Cajon, California. Danielle Williams, Mount Shasta, California. Joel Blaine, Broken Arrow, Oklahoma. Get better soon, John. Praying for you. Daniel Niewong in Borlange, I think it is in Sweden. Let the force be with you. Priscilla Rubio in Norwalk, California. Wishing John C. A speedy recovery. George Nolan in Washington, in Montana. What? Did I miss something?

A (180:35)

Well, I don't know. Did you? Oh, never mind. I'm sorry. I'm off. I need to give you a break anyway. You're making me exhausted.

B (180:41)

I'm almost. I'm almost done. I'm almost done. Cold read, by the way. Cold read, I'll have you know.

A (180:47)

I know.

B (180:48)

I'm stunned. Switcheroo. Maybe can be credited to my son, Nicoli. Nicoli, who I hope will be knighted before you actually find an exit strategy. My apologies. Took me to denounce my. His douchebaggery. My sincere prayers are with you, John. Mimi, his family, and of course you as well, Adam. You got a lot of praying hands on you, John. Take time to rest. We'll be waiting. And thank you for your courage, says George Nolan. Sarah amble, Black Earth, Wisconsin. Get well soon, John. Rick Justison, Salt Lake City, Utah. Get well, John. Gina Moly in Phoenix, Arizona. Get well, JCD. We miss you. Stripe. Thank you. Stripe. 50 bucks. Walker Phillips. Sam Ralph, NFL, California. Aichi Kitagawa, San Francisco, California. Jason D', Aluzio, Miami Beach, Florida. Carrie Jackson, Watertown, Tennessee. And Sir Yogi wraps up our $50. And above West Richland, Washington. And he says he loves us. And we thank you very much for that. Those are just a. I mean, there's a lot more. A lot of the eight 8s. Thank you so much for giving John these fabulous notes. The donations are highly appreciated. Appreciate it. And we all wish, of course, that John gets back in the saddle soon. Although I have to say, I'm kind of enjoying having you. Having you hang out here. Mimi. That's not been too bad.

A (182:07)

Well, thank you. Suggestions are always appreciated on how I can be better because this is not my normal place to be.

B (182:15)

You're doing just fine now. You locked up the dog. It's gotten even better. No agenda. Donations.com. thank you all so Much for supporting the show. Oops, I'm sorry. I got confused. This is what I meant to do. Yes, here we go. Eric at the Grand Canyon wishes his dad, Edward from Bridgewater a very happy birthday celebrated on March 3rd. Earl Christopher, happy birthday to his beautiful wife Diane. She turned 55 on March 3rd. Dreb Scott, of course. He is the the duke of the chapters. The Cloud chapters. March 4th. Alex, Ivan, Jacqueline and sweet pea say happy birthday to Alex Myers turn 30 on the sixth. And Edward Knowles wishes his smokin hot wife a very happy birthday. She'll be celebrating on March 27th. Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. And we will do these title changes. Knighting and damings will come when John returns. So you get the official double double ceremony, as it should be. He is the keeper of his sword. Earl Christopher becomes Duke Christopher and Sir C. Sharp of.net becomes a baronet today. Thank you both very much for your additional support and $1,000 or more to the best podcast in the universe. And we have some fantastic meetup reports. That's right. NoaGenDameetups.com is where you can find all of the no agenda meetups listed. It is a collaboration between Sir Daniel, who maintains the website, and Mimi, who always is putting together the entire list of what is upcoming. And it's highly appreciated and we love it even more when you give us a report. Here is the report to from Los Altos, talking fantastically to new producers and getting to meet new people. Sir Montauk having a fair time as always.

A (184:20)

I'm Leslie. I'm here.

B (184:22)

I'm new. These people are crazy.

A (184:25)

Thank you. Bye. Hi, this is Dame Rose.

B (184:30)

This is Sir Recalcitrant Crazy season second. And I'm just hoping John is healthy enough to have a big beer at the next Club Mallard meetup. I don't think alcohol is in his future anytime soon, to be honest. That will be.

A (184:47)

Oh, well, he can have a non alcoholic beer.

B (184:50)

Oh, okay. Yes, okay. Hey, there was a big meetup in Tinley Park. It was Darren O' Neill and Eli the coffee guy. 33 people showed up, they had a great time and they made a report for us. What's up, y'?

A (185:04)

All?

B (185:04)

It's Eli the coffee guy here at Hailstorm Brewing having a good time with all my friends from the no Agenda crew.

A (185:12)

Rex Redbone in the morning to you.

B (185:15)

Baroness Amy of FEMA Region 5. Baron John the fabulous of the glacial Drumlins. Dame Trinity visiting from Fort Wayne, having a great time with the no Agenda crew. Thank you for your courage. Ron V from the troll room. Looking forward to seeing this one on the air. Hey in the morning. John and Adam, sir, PBR street gang here in Chicago. Loving the area and prayers to John. What's the matter John? Too many eggs? Too soon. Too soon. This is Sir Matthew. Get well soon.

A (185:49)

John in the morning. This is Dame Courtney, Jack, John, get well soon. We got to have some more live episodes guys. We just can't handle all these special reruns. They're just not my cup of tea.

B (186:03)

Hope you get better. Get well soon, John. Can't wait to hear you, John. I hope everything turns out great. This is sir Zog of Elwood Baron of the Des Plaines River Valley. We miss you. We hope you're back soon. Exit strategy is not the way to go. You got to keep doing the show.

A (186:19)

Hey, this is sir Spooky of the Elm Streets. John, get well soon. And Adam, we still love you too.

B (186:25)

This is Omar. That's all. All right. And it's Eli Baron of the beans saying we love you John and everybody out and get monation. Peace out. Actually we need Darren. Hi, I'm Darren O. You may have heard of me. I'm on the pre show. My wife refuses to talk. We were all concerned John didn't have a heart so we were all happy to find out he does. Hey, thank you to Darren and Eli for hosting this meetup. We're sucking in soot and we're gonna fix it in post. We don't fix anything in post. Yes, very good. Thank you very much guys. Sound like you had a good time. Couple of meetups coming up in in the rest of this month. On the 14th, Eagle, Idaho, Gladewater, Texas, Indianapolis, Indiana the 15th, Rockaway, New Jersey on the 18th, Charlotte, North Carolina, Carolina the 19th on the 21st, Los Angeles, California and Franklin, Tennessee, Coleyville. I gotta learn how to pronounce that. Texas on the 28th and Fort Wayne, Indiana on the 28th as well. And a reminder, we have the Albany, California meetup that might be John's return. We don't know yet. On the 11th of April along with Fredericksburg, Texas on the 11th of April and many more that you can find@noagendameetups.com go there, find them. This is where you will meet people who are like minded, just as nutty as you are. Connection brings protection. These are the people who will be your first responders in an emergency. Noagendameetups.com if you can't find one near you, start one yourself. It's easy. And always guaranteed a party. Feels the same. It's like a party. And a special birthday shout out to sir Brian with one eye, Brian Skelton, who celebrated his birthday earlier this week and he got cheated because we. We didn't do a full show. So. Happy birthday, Brian. Thank you, Tina, for reminding me. I have all these women taking care of the show. It's fantastic. It's fantastic. I tell you, it's great.

A (188:36)

So hopefully, John, it'll be like five weeks out from surgery by the time the Albany meetup comes. And if you don't get Jeff, John, you get me, so.

B (188:44)

Oh, I'll be down by then, people. Be John. Who? What? Who's that guy now? Will. He. Will. How's he walking? Will you need a cane? An ugly stick?

A (188:56)

I don't think so, no. He should be. I mean, he's. He's weak right now, but, yeah, he's in. He's in a week of rehab and the cardio rehab. So they're going to make him, you know, walk and go up and down stairs and do everything he needs to do out in the real world. And, you know, Jay and Brennan will no doubt take excellent care of him and get him moving. I'll be down there, so I'll be able to nag him. And, you know, I expect that he's gonna bounce back fairly quickly. I mean, that's what I'm hoping.

B (189:24)

Yeah, sure sounds like it. When I heard he was already watching Chinese tv, I'm like, okay, the brains. I remember when they woke him up.

A (189:33)

Yeah.

B (189:34)

You said that the nurses had talked to you and said, you know, he's his. His mental state is great, and he has a very strong grip around the nurse's neck. No doubt.

A (189:47)

Exactly.

B (189:49)

So you didn't have any isos. I didn't expect you to, but I.

A (189:53)

I tried, but I was tired from the other ones.

B (189:55)

I understand. I'm gonna. I'm gonna give you three choices. You get to choose. Here's the first one. Unbelievable stuff. That's the first one. Second one. It's very, very good and probably my favorite. What the hell are you putting in your mouth? Just saying. Which one do you choose? Mimi.

A (190:17)

Oh, I like the last one.

B (190:19)

Okay. And now. Oh, my goodness, here it comes. Mimi's tip of the day.

A (190:25)

Great advice for you.

B (190:28)

Tip with JCD and sometimes Adam. All right.

A (190:36)

Okay. I have a tip. That's not a normal tip, but it is something I.

B (190:40)

That's how every tip of the day starts off. Not a normal tip. But it is a tip of the day. Okay, here we go.

A (190:46)

Well, it's, it's not a cleaning tip, it's not a wine tip. It is a practical tip. I cannot stress the importance of writing down all of your, your passwords, all of your challenge words.

B (190:58)

Oh, yes, yes.

A (191:00)

And most importantly, your PIN number to your computer. The four digit pin.

B (191:05)

Just the thought.

A (191:08)

It's been the biggest frustration for me this week is it's like, what was John's first car? Oh my God. What, what, what? What was the mascot of his, of his high school team? You know, I mean, we've been, it took us days to get the newsletter out because we couldn't do the challenges for, you know.

B (191:29)

Now if I understand, okay, so if I understand it, you had the passwords to everything except the computer.

A (191:35)

But no, no, we, we had old passwords that hadn't been updated.

B (191:39)

Oh, yay.

A (191:41)

Yay. And we had, and yes, we did not have the PIN to, and John still won't give it to us. So we have gotten around it.

B (191:49)

Which, which makes two factor authentication a problem because they send an email.

A (191:55)

Yes.

B (191:56)

And so John still won't give you the PIN to his computer.

A (192:00)

Well, he doesn't remember it because evidently he changed it on a regular basis. So that means you have to go through the Microsoft nonsense.

B (192:06)

Oh my goodness. So you can get into it. You go through Microsoft stuff. You can get into the computer.

A (192:12)

We couldn't because we didn't know we couldn't. We don't know the Microsoft password like anyone does. Although for everyone listening, Microsoft, mine is, you know, I hate Microsoft. It's the problem is, is the two factor authentications are, you know, you got to get it right.

B (192:30)

Yeah.

A (192:31)

You know, so when you have access to the email, so you're getting that far, it is questions that are like, you know, you know, I don't know, I don't remember what, what year his first car was. I don't know what, you know, who he went to the prom with. You know, all those things are, remembers

B (192:51)

we went to the prom with.

A (192:53)

I, I. The questions are so insane.

B (192:56)

Have you, have you considered bit warden or some password manager of the like that you can even set up a emergency thing so after 24 hours you can, you can, the backup person can claim it and then they can get in.

A (193:13)

Have I considered this or are we talking about John?

B (193:16)

Well, I'm talking to you because no, of course John hasn't considered this.

A (193:20)

Everyone knows my passwords because I use and I have them written down. And yes, I'VE I've. There's. I have played with those different programs. I cannot get John to use any of them because he doesn't. He's just.

B (193:34)

That's just John, you know, no explanation needed, Mimi. It's just John.

A (193:40)

But everybody else should have. Should do this, make everyone's life easier. The other thing that I highly recommend, even though if you don't need it, give a power of attorney to your spouse. Just a durable power of attorney that they can keep in the safety deposit box in case anything happens to you. At least they have access.

B (194:00)

You know, when I met Tina, talk about opsec, is that what this is? Operational security. And I was helping her with her Mac or something on the laptop, and I said, hey, what's this? It says important do not delete. What's this? That's all my passwords. Like. Oh, okay. Yeah, that's where you want. Want it right there in the important do not delete file.

A (194:22)

But.

B (194:23)

But she has a file. She has a file, and it's safely kept and it's all written down. She's very fastidious about this. Very, very good. And she has all my passwords. She knows exactly what they are. They're all written down for this very. For this very reason, you know.

A (194:38)

Yeah. The back end getting in is, you know, and it's, you know, I didn't expect this. You know, I really. I don't think anyone ever expects anything like this, but I'm one of those people who's always nagging, you know, look, you know, what. What if. What if.

B (194:52)

What if, you know, and then if happened.

A (194:55)

Yeah. And if happened and I, you know, it's, you know, I'm surviving.

B (195:00)

Write down your passwords. Give a power of attorney. There it is, everybody. Mimi Smith, the Vorax tip of the day.

A (195:08)

Great advice for you and me.

B (195:11)

Just the tip with JCD and sometimes. Mimi, we made it. Mimi, we made it. Yes. It's. Wow. Oh, it's a long.

A (195:24)

We have to. Do we have to do this again on Thursday?

B (195:27)

I'm looking forward to it. You know what to do. You know what to do. Put the. Lock the dog up and it'll be perfect. Absolutely perfect.

A (195:34)

I will absolutely do that. And I won't. And I won't rustle papers.

B (195:39)

No, it's. Hey, try bumping the mic a couple times. That always helps.

A (195:44)

Okay.

B (195:45)

Thank you very much, Knowledge in the Nation. Thank you, Troll Room. Thank you all for supporting the show and especially giving John a reason to live. Believe me, it works. It helps. It does.

A (195:58)

And Absolutely. Thank you so much for both the prayers and the donations. Thank you.

B (196:03)

And special thanks to Jay and JC and everybody and Brendan, everybody who pitched in. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas. The Texas hill country where all the wineries are. Fredericksburg in the morning, everybody.

A (196:17)

I'm Adam Curry and from the. I've got things coming up on my computer from the good old Olympic peninsula for a few a day or say I will be in Washington state. So good thoughts for Washington since we keep getting hit with solar flares, literally.

B (196:40)

We've got follow the monkey and MVP for end of show mixes. We'll talk to you on Thursday, everybody. Adios mo fos a hooey. Hooey and such. Go ahead, please. America first is not isolationism and we're putting the other guys in danger. Think of as Samaritan. First is not head in the sand. Don't lie about the war we not America first is not to get entangled Nearly accomplished on the ground. America first is the following. We are not at war. Can I be honest? America first is to kill people. That's our job. Kill people. Very successful.

A (197:13)

Kill people.

B (197:14)

A very serious misstep. Kill people. This needs to continue. Kill people. That's our job. Kill people. We are not. Kill people. Kill people. It's a very clear mission. And that mission is can I be killing a lot of people? Kill people. That's our job. Kill people. Very successful. Kill people. Kill people. You're not at war. The only ones that need to be worried right now now are Iranians that think they're going to live. That's our job. Other than that, they're doing very well. The old farce got a heart of gold also the stories have been told but he pushed the red line went too far now it's on the lift like an old salvage car. He's in the shop for a valve in the gear getting parts replaced for the coming year. Mimi wrote the book on the eggs in the pan a literary feet for the best part of the man. But Adam says no to the exit plan. It's unacceptable according to the man. You can't just bow wow with a crack checks while the too many eggs are put to rest the old Bart heart is getting a start bolting back together every broken pie. Meanwhile, the producer's pitching to cover the show while JCD recovers in his Silicon Valley chateau. Audio mofo devorak org na what the

A (199:20)

hell are you putting in your mouth?