1852 - "Jell-No!"

Summary

No Agenda Show Episode 1852 — “Jell-No!”

Date: March 19, 2026
Hosts: Adam Curry & Mimi Smith Dvorak (filling in for John C. Dvorak)
Special Appearance: John C. Dvorak (from the hospital)

Overview

Episode 1852 of the No Agenda Show, titled “Jell-No!”, was a quintessential three-hour ride through current global affairs, U.S. politics, media deconstruction, war analysis, culture, and colorful personal anecdotes—all with the signature No Agenda irreverence. Adam Curry helms the discussion with temporary co-host Mimi Smith Dvorak, providing updates on John C. Dvorak’s recovery, dissecting the Iran conflict, exposing California fraud, speculating on geopolitical history, and examining the American right's internal rifts. The episode is punctuated with humor, gratitude from listeners, stories from Mimi’s life, a visit from John straight from his hospital bed, and an eclectic assortment of media critiques.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. JCD’s Absence, Return, and Hospital Hi-jinx

• John C. Dvorak Update: John (JCD) updates listeners on his heart surgery and recovery. Humorous recounting of his attempts to rejoin the show from the hospital and technical snafus.
• Notable Quote:

  “So not once, but twice this week did JCD call me. …He keeps apologizing. Stop apologizing. But I’m really sorry you have to do one more show with Mimi.”
  — Adam Curry [01:50]

• Hospital Antics:
  • Playful banter and AI-generated voice clips of John, including complaints about hospital food:

    “I can’t stand one more fucking jello cup.”
    — John C. Dvorak (hospital segments) [03:59]

  • JCD’s playful complaint:

    “It is almost impossible to sleep. Because I like to sleep. I’m a side sleeper, just like Tucker. I’m looking for somebody to claw me and it hasn’t happened.”
    — John C. Dvorak (hospital) [93:50]

2. Introducing/Exploring Mimi Smith Dvorak

• The Name Game: Discussion reveals Mimi's real name is “Merrily Diane” and how "Mimi" became her adopted name.

  “My parents saddled me with. The first name is Merily Diane.”
  — Mimi [04:42]

• Backstory & Political Satire:
  • Mimi reflects on running for office and using “Merrily” to differentiate herself amidst other female councilmembers with similar names (“it sounded like a bunch of strippers”).
• Mimi’s Reception: Adam reports 98% of No Agenda Nation warms to Mimi, with her own remark:

  “Those are the ones I like the best.”
  — Mimi [06:27]

3. U.S. Foreign Policy — Iran, NATO, Middle East Realignment

[07:55–22:03, 27:40–33:36, 38:29–48:50, 65:50–73:33]

• Trump’s Iran War Strategy:
  • Detailed analysis of Trump’s rationale for surprise attacks on Iran, minimal NATO consultation, and why the UK, France, and other European countries are reticent to participate.
  • Discussion of oil as the core strategic driver, citing Churchill's switch from coal to oil and historical meddling (e.g., the Anglo-Persian Oil Company, 1953 coup).

  “The whole point is the oil. The oil has been the point. …Since 1906, I think, whenever Churchill changed the British Navy from coal to oil...”
  — Adam [19:39]

• NATO Exasperation & U.S. Alliances:

  “I think NATO’s making a very foolish mistake ... I wonder whether or not NATO would ever be there for us.”
  — John C. Dvorak (channeling Trump) [10:39]

• American exceptionalism and oil:

  “Get rid of your iPhone. The US Navy protects that.”
  — Adam [13:12]

• Middle East Support: Notes that U.S. has strong backing from Qatar, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, and Israel, but little from NATO.
• Abraham Accords & Israel: Dismissal of the “Israel’s puppet” narrative (“No, you’re stupid." [22:03])—it’s about oil access and strategic positioning, not biblical destiny.

4. Who’s Pushing U.S. Policy? Dissent, Media, and Tucker Carlson

• Tucker Carlson’s “Agent” Allegations:
  • Parallels drawn between government scrutiny of antiwar figures like Tucker and ex-NCTC director Joe Kent, and broader censorship concerns.
• “British Imperial” Conspiracies:
  • Extended riff on theories about the City of London, the Royal Family, Standard Oil, and banks controlling world affairs.

    “These people own so much actual land, it’s not funny.”
    — Adam [52:02]

• Dispensationalism and Religious Rifts:
  • Explores how pro-Israel evangelicals and replacement theology split the American right.

  “The dividing line seems to be Israel and the Jews. Either you believe God’s word … or you believe the Tucker Carlsons and the Candace Owens.”
  — Pastor Demancy, via Mimi [27:40]

• Notable Spiritual Moment:

  “[I was] physically mauled in a spiritual attack by a demon. … I had four claw marks on either side ... they were bleeding.”
  — Tucker Carlson [35:04]

5. California & National Fraud Exposé

[121:16–131:34]

• Medicare, Medi-Cal, and Hospice Fraud:
  • Adam and Mimi highlight Nick Shirley’s and others’ reporting on rampant Medicare scams—billing for hospice care, buying patient numbers, Armenian mob involvement, hollow oversight.

    “Anybody can get a hospice license… They bill, they take the Medicare numbers, they bill Medicare, the Medicare sends them a check right away. It’s an easy process.”
    — Healthcare professional [126:48]

  • Adam suspects Shirley’s YouTube exposé is getting fed by Trump-friendly insiders:

    “I’m telling you, this Nick Shirley pop has Trump written all over it.”
    — Adam [131:16]

• Petition Fraud: California initiative scams described—citizens paid $5 per signature, coached on fake identities.
• Billionaires’ Tax Backlash:
  • Newsom and tech leaders push back; Mimi notes the state needs the tax because of massive fraud.
  • 2025 federal health spending exceeds $2 trillion; rampant fraud distorts budgets.

6. Cancel Culture, Revisionist History & the “Erasure” of Cesar Chavez

[109:50–121:16]

• Allegations of sexual assault against Chavez prompt statues, schools, and city events to remove his name, which Mimi frames as “tearing down history.”
• Old speeches reveal Chavez as strongly anti-illegal-immigration, explaining why modern progressives would want him erased.

7. Personal Anecdotes & Lighter Segments

• Celebrity Encounters:
  • Mimi tells of meeting Jim Morrison in Hawaii as a child:

    “It was Jim Morrison.”
    — Mimi [90:32]

  • Discussion of fame—Adam’s MTV days, Dutch celebrity culture; Mimi’s grandmother’s vaudeville stories (W.C. Fields, etc.)
• Oscars Observations:
  • Low ratings, sound quality complaints; Mimi’s local grocery store encounters with celebrities (Barbara Streisand, Josh Brolin).
• Pet Care “Tip of the Day”:
  • Mimi recommends “My Pet Peed” hydrogen peroxide-based cleaner for animal messes, with darkly comic cautions about its power:

    “Can you also use it if you kill someone? …Oh yeah, absolutely. It would do a good job.”
    — Adam & Mimi [158:34]

8. No Agenda Community

• Listener Support: Outpouring of love in donation messages, gratitude for the No Agenda impact over 18 years.
• Show Credits & Value-for-Value Model: Reminders that executive producer credits are real; cheerful encouragement to donate at any level.
• Meetups: Growing global community, with meetups from Idaho and Charlotte to Okinawa, Japan.

9. Show Closer: Reflections & Farewell

• John C. Dvorak’s Return:
  • Adam and Mimi reflect on the show’s irreplaceable dynamic:

    “I have definitely concluded that without either one of us, No Agenda is not a show. I miss you.”
    — Adam [92:18] “Well, and also, by the way, I miss you, Adam.”
    — John [94:45]

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• “Everybody poops.”
  — Adam Curry [00:00] / Mimi Smith Dvorak [55:54] — Running joke on the show, literal and metaphorical.

• On AI-generated JCD in the hospital:

  “I can’t stand one more fucking jello cup.”
  — John C. Dvorak (hospital segment) [03:59]; repeated [109:35]

• On Iran Conflict:

  “If we left right now, it would take 10 years for them to rebuild. But we’re not ready to leave yet.”
  — John C. Dvorak (Trump voice) [16:18]

• On Canceling Cesar Chavez:

  “Well, I mean, it’s a little late to speak up. So they’re tearing down history. This is absolutely tearing down history.”
  — Mimi [112:10]

• On California Fraud:

  “California may have the largest amount of fraud in the country… It is estimated that the fraud in California could be in the hundreds of billions of dollars.”
  — Nick Shirley clip [124:00]

• On Fame & Anecdotes:

  “I had a great childhood. … My favorite thing to do would be to go sit next to the pool in the Royal Hawaiian right before dawn. … [Then] comes up and sits down next to me… It was Jim Morrison.”
  — Mimi [89:12–90:32]

• Dog pee cleaning tip:

  “Someday I’m gonna fall, I’m gonna die because I’m gonna fall on pet pee…”
  — Mimi [157:28]

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Notable Segments & Timestamps

• Opening Banter — Humidity, WA vs TX, “Why live here?” [00:23–01:50]
• JCD’s Hospital Calls & AI JCD Segments [01:50–04:05]
• Mimi’s Name and Political Anecdotes [04:22–05:15]
• Listener Feedback & Social Media “A-holes” [06:07]
• Deconstruction of U.S. Foreign Policy on Iran, NATO, Oil [07:34–23:08, 65:50–73:33]
• NATO “Stand Up or Not?” and Trump’s Foreign Policy [09:21–13:12]
• Media Criticism, “Hollywood Bigwig” and Mimi as a ‘spook’ [06:34–07:34]
• Tucker Carlson’s Spiritual Attack Story [34:21–36:42]
• British Imperial/City of London Conspiracies [49:35–52:17]
• Listener Donations and Messages [97:26–107:02]
• Cesar Chavez Cancellation and History Rewriting [110:01–121:16]
• California Fraud/Medicare Fraud Exposé [124:00–131:34]
• Meetup Announcements [149:32–152:32]
• ISO Selection (Show End Sound Bites) [152:32–155:21]
• Mimi’s Pet Tip of the Day (“My Pet Peed”) [155:28–158:58]
• Closing Reflections (“It’s been lovely, but it’s way too much work…”) [159:20–160:07]

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Tone & Style

• Signature NA irreverence: Jokes, profanity, rapid-fire asides, and asides upon asides.
• Meta-commentary: Self-aware references to their own legacy, show format, and the “value for value” philosophy.
• Listener Connection: Sincere gratitude for longtime fans; community is the “first responder.”
• High irony: On media, government, and even their own role.

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For First-Time Listeners:

This episode is a comprehensive showcase of No Agenda’s “media assassination” style—unfiltered, contrarian, wide-ranging, full of inside jokes, and community focus. If you want deep-dive context, follow the timestamps to segments of interest, or just let the banter and clips wash over you. Mimi’s stories and the return of JCD mark this as a transitional show—chock full of major deconstruction, but also laughter, skepticism, and the sense that (like the best talk radio or podcasting), the journey is the point.

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End of Show Reminder

“Gotta get going. I miss you already. Stop.”
— [Outro ISO, 154:29]

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Transcript

[Adam Curry]

Everybody poops.

[John C. Dvorak]

Adam Curry, John C. Devorah.

[Adam Curry]

It's Thursday, March 19, 2026. This is your award winning Kibonation Media assassination episode 1852. This is no Agenda. One more for the kipper. And we're broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill country here in FEMA region number six. In the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

And I'm Mimi Smith Dvorak. And on a globe, I'm between the 48th and 49th parallel.

[Adam Curry]

It's Crackbot. And in the morning. And it's wet. You're wet. You're soaking wet.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

We don't even say anything about it. It's just another day.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

100% humidity.

[Adam Curry]

I didn't even know, you told me before we started that, that there was a storm in Hawaii. That that is now over your, your, your low, your domain, your Netflix of the woods.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

The, the start of it. We do get one day that that globe in the sky may appear on Saturday. And then we're. We've got rain forever. We have rain that's just coming and it's so slow and it's going to be lots of inches and it's also quite warm, so that means all the snow that we had was going to melt, so we'll be flooding too. It's great.

[Adam Curry]

What is the actual appeal of living in Washington State?

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

It's good for your skin.

[Adam Curry]

Oh yeah. But so is faro life. You know, that stuff is good for your skin too. I don't know if you need to live in Washington state for, for it.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Oh, it's got beautiful trees and. Yeah, that's it.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, there you go everybody. You've got income tax now. You've got libtards running around, but you got nice trees.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Yeah, nice trees.

[Adam Curry]

So not once, but twice this week did JCD call me. That was quite, quite exciting. The first one was I think Tuesday. He's like, hey, it's Dvorak. Like, okay. You know we have caller ID on these phones, John, in case you didn't know. And yeah. I said, well, okay, yeah, just checking in. I said, well, are you getting out tomorrow? He says, yeah, yeah. He says it was so sweet. He says, I'm really sorry. He keeps apologizing. Stop apologizing. But I'm really sorry you have to do one more show with Mimi. Like, wow, wow, that would be John.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

And then, and then yesterday, like I've got, got salmon in the oven. Tina was out helping a friend. So I'm cooking dinner and salmon. You, you kind of can keep your eye on it. And. And he said, all right, let's. Let's test the gear. Let's test the gear. I guess he was setting up the famed nook at Jay's house. And it was. It was so classic, as if nothing has changed. So he plugs in, he connects to the clean feed, and I can clearly hear that it's not the microphone he's talking into. It's like something else is on. No, it's not. I'm talking right into it. Nothing has changed. It's the same John. I'm telling you this. And I can hear myself booming through the speakers. Like, what? You got speakers? Yeah, Jay bought me some speakers. Could you consider headphones for once? Just maybe? And he said, well, I'll call you back. Yeah, it turns out there was a webcam still plugged in. I told you so. Oh, yeah, told me. Oh, yeah, he's. I actually, I recorded some of it. I recorded.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Oh, no.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, let me. Let me play a little bit here. Here we go.

[John C. Dvorak (hospital segments)]

So this is what happens when your

[Adam Curry]

wife and your work wife get together. Mm. Mm. Now that was. That was from the hospital day that he called me, including this one.

[John C. Dvorak (hospital segments)]

I have to go. It's time for my sponge bath.

[Adam Curry]

So that ended. Ended the conversation. And then, parents, cover your kids ears.

[John C. Dvorak (hospital segments)]

I can't stand one more fucking jello cup.

[Adam Curry]

Pretty good, huh? Oh, yeah, that's AI. We don't need John anymore. Could you tell? Could you tell it was not John?

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

I wasn't listening hard enough. I'm a wife. I've been a wife for so long, my ears turn off.

[Adam Curry]

Wow. I thought that only happened to husbands. That's good. That's very good. So one question. Well, there's a couple things, but one question that people really would like to know, and you may not want to answer this. Where does. Is Mimi your real name? No, it's not.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

My parents saddled me with. The first name is Merily Diane.

[Adam Curry]

I like Merrily. That's a cute name.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

No, it's Merily Diane.

[Adam Curry]

Well, okay.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

I have a middle name as well. It's hyphenated. I have a middle name. And then because when I was a little kid, I could not say it because, you know, what kid can spit out Merrily Diane. I started calling myself Mimi and everyone could start calling me Mimi from then on.

[Adam Curry]

Huh. So you don't like Merilee. It has to be Merily Diane. But you don't like that at all, obviously.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

My name is Merrily Diane, like my mother was Naming for some Southern belle. And she got me.

[Adam Curry]

Well, we all saw the pictures. Marilyn Diane.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

My mom had blonde, curly hair, and she was just dark brown eyes. And I am nothing like my mother.

[Adam Curry]

Welcome to the stage Marilee Diane. Put your hands together for Marilee Diane.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

So for political stuff up here, I decided to use Merrily when I first ran because we already had a city council member whose name was Sherry, and we had one named Cissy, and I thought that it sounded like a bunch of strippers.

[Chrissy Gnome]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

So people have been listening to us for the past. What have we done now? Four shows. Is this the fifth show? Is this the fifth? I think it's the fifth.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

I. No, I think it's just four because we missed that first, so.

[Adam Curry]

Well, we kind of did an intro on the first one.

[Liz Landers]

Right.

[Adam Curry]

And I've loved doing this with you, Mimi. I really appreciate you jumping in. I'd say 98% of no agenda Nation loves that you jumped in. The 2% are always the A holes, so I just fight them on Twitter.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Those are the ones I like the best.

[Adam Curry]

They're the worst. Like, I couldn't listen. There was no deconstruction at all.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Well, they're right.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. They usually listen two to three times an episode. I had to turn it off, like, okay, fine, you know, a little bit of grace, maybe just a tad. But the best came from Hollywood Bigwig. He texted this to me during the Academy Awards. So that means he know he wasn't watching Dana Brunetti. He says, I am pretty sure that Mimi is indeed a spook. And he takes it one step further. He says, I don't think anyone's put it together that she is the anonymous donor that you are pseudonymous of Dogpatch and Lower Slobovia. And that's how she communicates with John when she's on assignment. She doesn't live in Washington. She's just off on assignment. Notice there have been no donations from him since she's been on the show.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Okay, whatever.

[Adam Curry]

Sure, I'll take it. I thought that was pretty good. It was pretty good. Our. Our president has been super hilarious the past few days. This just. I saw this this morning. He was sitting with the Prime Minister of Japan. Do you know her name? I forget what her name is.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Not at all.

[Adam Curry]

And so there's a whole bunch of Japanese journalists, and there's just Japanese on a whole one side of the room. Let me see if I can get this here.

[John C. Dvorak]

Oh, he doesn't believe he's muted.

[Adam Curry]

Here he goes.

[John C. Dvorak]

You sound in Shock.

[Adam Curry]

Go ahead, please. Of course. No, Japan and us are very good friends.

[John C. Dvorak]

But one question.

[Adam Curry]

Why didn't you tell US allies in Europe and Asia, like Japan, about the war before? So he says, why didn't you tell US allies like NATO and Europe and Japan before, you know, that you. Before you went to war with Iran, attacking Iran. So we are very confused about. With Japanese citizens.

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, one thing, you don't want to signal too much, you know, when we go in, we went in very hard and we didn't tell anybody about it because we wanted surprise. Who knows better about surprise than Japan? Why didn't you tell me about Pearl Harbor?

[Adam Curry]

Why did you tell me about Pearl Harbor? Huh? Wow.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Wow, that's great.

[Adam Curry]

That's good. It's good. And, and no sooner had we talked about it on Sunday, then the president did exactly what we thought he would do. I'm going to remind everybody what he did during the State of the Union to screw with the Democrats.

[John C. Dvorak]

One of the great things about the State of the Union is how it gives Americans the chance to see clearly what their representatives really believe. So tonight I'm inviting every legislature to join with my administration in reaffirming a fundamental principle. If you agree with this statement, then stand up and show your support. The first duty of the American government is to protect American citizens, not illegal aliens.

[Adam Curry]

It was great how the shot pulled out right away.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Yep.

[John C. Dvorak]

Isn't that shame? You should be ashamed of yourself not standing up. You should be ashamed of yourself.

[Adam Curry]

So we talked about this on Sunday and it was, it came true the next day. He did exactly the same with NATO, said, hey, you guys are going to come and stand up and stand next to us. And so he was with, Gosh, I think it was the prime. Was the prime minister of Austria or non. Oh, no, Ireland, with the tayshaw of Ireland. And he's sitting there in the Oval Office. And this, this didn't get as much coverage as I hoped it would have on the mainstream, some choice bits, but he really laid it down.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think NATO's making a very foolish mistake, and I've long said that. You know, I wonder whether or not NATO would ever be there for us. So this is a, this was a great test because we don't need them, but they should have been there. The other thing is, and I think, you know, very important, we didn't have to be there for Ukraine. You know, Biden chose to spe hundreds of billions of dollars on Ukraine. And I guess the head of Germany just made a statement that, well, they Weren't involved. And they have nothing to do with the war. But at the same time, they think we did a great thing by knocking them out. Nobody wants to have. Nobody wants to have Iran or anybody, but nobody wants to have Iran with a nuclear. Because these people are crazy. They're absolutely crazy. I. They're vicious, violent.

[John C. Dvorak (hospital segments)]

I mean, they kill.

[John C. Dvorak]

Think of it, they killed. Now, I hear it's about 41,000 people. They put out a notice two days ago. Anybody that protests will be immediately shot and killed. That's pretty tough stuff. So everyone agrees with us, but they don't want to help. And we, you know, we as the United States have to remember that because we think it's pretty shocking.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, we're going to remember that. It was a test. He says it himself. It was a test test to see if they would stand up. And naturally the question that he wanted was planted and came.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Are you rethinking the United States relationship

[Adam Curry]

with NATO possibly getting out?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I'm disappointed in NATO that we spend trillions of dollars on NATO. Think of it. Trillions over the years, many trillions of dollars. It's one of the reasons we have deficits and we help other countries. And when they don't help us, I mean, it certainly, certainly something that we should think about. I don't need Congress for that decision, as you probably know. I can make that decision myself. I'd work with some very smart people and I'd always deal with Congress anyway. But I don't need Congress for that decision. But you know, when you, when you say rethink. I'm not. I have nothing currently in mind. But I will say that I'm not exactly thrilled when we help them with Ukraine. Look, Ukraine would have been over in one day if we didn't help. Frankly, Ukraine would have been over the first day. They had the best equipment in the world. It was our equipment given by sleepy Joe Biden. No charge. No charge. Hundreds of billions of dollars of the best equipment in the world. No charge. I will say that I'm not happy about it.

[Adam Curry]

No. So there's your shot across the bow. I love the trolls. Cbrookland112 well, you know what's funny? High gas prices are funny. America first. You know what's funny? No gas. I lived through that. Mimi lived through that too. No gas. Yeah, because we didn't have the region under control. Anti war. If you're anti war, you have a very weak stance. You have nothing left. Get rid of your iPhone. The US Navy protects that. And so who did stand with America is exactly the people who make sure that you have gas at all. Which countries are joining and which countries have.

[John C. Dvorak]

But we've had great support, support from the Middle East. Qatar has been great. UAE has been absolutely great. Saudi Arabia has been terrific. Bahrain has been very good. The Middle Eastern countries have been very strong in their support. And of course, Israel has been our partner. Israel's been very, very strong.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

So that kind of. Yeah. Meanwhile, there's been a lot of like, good old Joe Kent.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, wait, you're going too fast. Let's get.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

I'm going too fast. Okay, let's go.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, good. We'll get to Joe Kent in a moment and then we can have a good laugh about Israel. So the president then reminds everybody where we were with Iran during the Obama administration. And he even asked us if we'd forgotten about it if we didn't do

[John C. Dvorak]

the attack or if I'll go a step further, if I didn't terminate the Iran nuclear deal given to us one of the worst deals ever made by Barack Hussein Obama. Remember when they sent Boeing 757s over there loaded with cash?

[Adam Curry]

Cash.

[John C. Dvorak]

Hundreds of millions of dollars. You would have been very happy. This was a wonderful. They said hundreds of millions. People forget that. Does anybody remember? Right, you remember hundreds of millions of dollars in a Boeing 757. I think they had two of them loaded. They took the seats out and they put cash. And it was so much that there wasn't a bank in Virginia, Maryland or D.C. that had any money left. They stripped them of all their money, put it into place, sent it to Iran almost as ransom.

[Adam Curry]

Almost.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's not going to happen with Trump. And nobody ever did anything about it. Nobody ever said anything. Can you imagine if I did that?

[Adam Curry]

I didn't know that, that the banks in Virginia and Maryland and D.C. were empty of cash. That's an interesting detail I'd never heard before.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

I haven't heard that at all. But, you know, we could have all wished for a plane crash that day. So we're winding up money from heaven.

[Adam Curry]

Mana manna from heaven. So we're winding it up here. You know, Mr. Trump, Mr. President, do you have a day after plan that is just a military operation to you, but do you not have a day after plan? And if so, what, what is. Would they ask the plan for Iran?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, we have a lot. Look, if we, if we left right now, it would take 10 years for them to rebuild. But we're not ready to leave yet. But we will be Leaving in the near future. We'll be leaving in pretty much the very near future. But right now, they've been decimated from every standpoint. And again, we've had great support from countries in the Middle East. Great support, but we've had no support from. Essentially no support from NATO.

[Adam Curry]

Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. Then we actually had a. I had a thing about NATO and I'll get you to. To Joe Kent. Where is it? Here we go. Yeah. Huh. I thought I had this here. Where's my. Goodness gracious. Where's my. Here it is. This is from. Actually, this is Canada Global News. And they bring in all the Europeans on this because clearly the President has no clue, no plan, no idea what he's doing. The US President sounded so sure about Iran's liberation.

[John C. Dvorak]

I say tonight that the hour of your freedom is at hand, that the

[Adam Curry]

war would be over quickly.

[John C. Dvorak]

I think you'll see it's going to be a short term excursion.

[Adam Curry]

But Donald Trump has discovered that Iranian freedom is not at hand.

[John C. Dvorak]

They don't have guns, and the other ones have guns, highly sophisticated machine guns.

[Adam Curry]

It's the small observations that are revealing that the Iranian regime can still threaten the global economy.

[John C. Dvorak]

Literally. A single terrorist can put something in the water or shoot something or shoot a missile.

[Adam Curry]

Trump said he didn't need NATO's help, then asked for it, didn't get it, then declared he didn't need it and never did. Incoherent. I would describe Trump's approach to all of this as strategically incoherent. This expert on US Foreign policy says Trump's objectives have swung from regime change to nuclear disarmament. He's not even sure who to talk to.

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't know if they're ready yet, and we don't even know their leaders.

[Adam Curry]

All of this suggests to me that nobody's on the same page and nobody really knows what the point of the war is or how it's going to end. NATO allies, recently intimidated by Trump's threats and tariffs, are forcefully resisting him now. France would never take part, says President Emmanuel Macron, in an operation to unlock the Strait of Hormuz. For many, it all comes back to the same question. What is Trump's endgame?

[Guest or Expert Commentator]

We haven't been consulted and we don't really understand what are the objectives of this war.

[Adam Curry]

It's no surprise, say experts, that neither the allies nor shipping companies want to risk Iranian attacks in the narrow strait.

[Liz Landers]

They can exploit the geography of the Strait of Hormuz and use relatively unsophisticated

[Adam Curry]

weapons that are easy to hide and

[Liz Landers]

attack shipping almost whenever they want.

[Adam Curry]

So Iran really has the ability to protract this conflict pretty significantly. Finds himself in a war in which Iran will not surrender and America's usual partners will not take part. This is what happens when the United States mistreats its allies. What we're seeing over the last couple of days is that there's no international appetite to help Donald Trump out of this mess. Trump's plan to win or end the war still sounds vague.

[John C. Dvorak]

We'll be leaving in the near future. We'll be leaving in pretty much the very near future.

[Adam Curry]

Eric Sorensen, Global News, Toronto. I love this. It's like it's been obvious for over a hundred years what is going on. And Trump is the first president to actually do something about it. And people who keep saying, oh, we're doing this for Israel. It's a very illogical, unintelligent take. To what end? To what end? The whole point is the oil. The oil has been the point. And since 1906, I think whenever Churchill changed the British Navy from coal to oil, and they went in and created the Anglo Persian Oil Company later bp and everything was hunky dory and everybody was happy until 1953. Then we CIA and MI6 went in because they had a republic, they had democratically elected government. I'm like, oh, we can't have this. We need strife and people to be crazy. And why don't you just take our opium like you did win the deal in the first place. And the Prime Minister, what was his name? Mehuzad or something? I forget his name.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Yeah, well, and he was the one who pushed so that Iran would get.

[Adam Curry]

They wanted to nationalize the oil.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

A cut.

[Adam Curry]

No, he was going to nationalize it, right? Yeah.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

And they did. They ended up getting more money, which they were getting nothing for this oil getting taken from the ground.

[Adam Curry]

Right. Then we brought in the Shah. Yeah, our boy. We brought him in and he kicked Khomeini out. And then. And then the Islamic revolution started to happen, which came in 78, 79. Again, our fingerprints were all over. Was a student uprising. Who. I remember this. I was old enough to remember. They got. Our embassy had 50 people for over 400 days. And the CIA was. They'd shredded all their documents. And the students got all the shredded material, took it to school, to the school. Children said, hey, you like puzzles? Put this together. And so they had the proof that we had done all of that. That's where all this came from.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

The Students thought that they were going to get freedom and they were going to get their own country and they're going to get elections again. I mean, they were completely misled.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, well, of course. Of course they were. So, yes, they were misled. And then the N jobs came in and that behooved the people who set the oil prices. The spot market, I believe, is set in London, not in New York or Chicago. It's set in London. You know, 5 to $15 of premium per oil for the danger. That's pure profit right in their pockets. And it's been that way forever. And to me, it's so clear. If you think this is about getting rid of Israel's enemy, no. The Abraham Accords have already got everybody looking in the same direction. Saudi Arabia is ready to be the tech Mecca, the AI Mecca. They're investing trillions of dollars. So Israel. No, you're stupid. No, really. I think I have a clip here. Even Trump, he was asked about the objectives of the US And Israel. Are you speaking with Prime Minister Netanyahu? And are your objectives the same in terms of ending the war?

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

War.

[John C. Dvorak]

They might be a little different, I guess. You know, they're different country than we are.

[Adam Curry]

Different country, whatever they're doing. And Heath said effectively the same thing. Well, I would just state by saying Israel's been a really strong partner in this effort where they have different objectives, they've pursued them.

[Chrissy Gnome]

Ultimately, we've stayed focused on ours.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, there you go then. We'll get to more of that later, after I lead you into Joe Kent,

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

your Director of National Counterterrorism.

[John C. Dvorak (hospital segments)]

Joe Kent.

[Guest or Expert Commentator]

He just resigned today.

[Adam Curry]

He said he can't support your conflict with Iran. What's your reaction to that?

[Guest or Expert Commentator]

And did you?

[John C. Dvorak]

Well, I read his statement. I always thought he was a nice guy, but I always thought he was weak on security. Very weak on security. I didn't know him well, but I thought he seemed like a pretty nice guy. But when I read his statement, I realized that it's a good thing that he's out because he said that Iran was not a threat. Iran was a threat. Every country realized what a threat Iran was. The question is whether or not they wanted to do something about it.

[Adam Curry]

And Kent really had the same old boring, take that. Oh, well, if you do that, then we'll be distracted and China will take Taiwan. It hasn't happened.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Right.

[Adam Curry]

And it may. I don't even know if we care anymore. It's always so important.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Evidently, he has been. He's been a leaker. So If I love the breaking news, it's 318. Breaking news.

[Adam Curry]

Breaking. We got breaking news just a moment ago. Sources are saying that Joe Kent, the former director of the United States National Counterterrorist Center.

[Chrissy Gnome]

This is from Semaphore. He just resigned.

[Adam Curry]

He's now under FBI investigation for allegedly leaking classified information in an. The investigation predate his departure. Yeah, I saw this. I'm not sure what to make of this.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Well, we also have a PBS Liz Landers on Joe Kent.

[Adam Curry]

Okay. Who's Liz Landers? She works for pbs.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Yep.

[Guest or Expert Commentator]

Well, with his background as a Green Beret and a former CIA official, he has. With this military and intelligence background, but he really represents sort of the MAGA portion of this administration who is anti war. And that is what we saw today in these comments from him. He is a close relations relationship with Tucker Carlson, who we've mentioned previously has been critical of this war in Iran since it started. He's also a close ally of Tulsi Gabbard, the Director of National Intelligence.

[Adam Curry]

Ah, you led me right into it. Perfect.

[British Empire/City of London Analyst]

Which.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Yep. Which of course, four days ago, Tucker

[Adam Curry]

said, no, here we go.

[Tucker Carlson]

So the other day I found out that the CIA is preparing some kind of criminal referral against me, a crime report to the Department of Justice on the basis of a supposed crime I committed. What's that crime? Well, talking to people in Iran before the war, they read my texts. So the crime under consideration apparently would be the Foreign Agent act or something like that. Acting as an agent of a foreign power. And I don't expect this to go anywhere. I'm not too worried about an actual criminal case against me for a bunch of reasons. One, I'm not an agent of a foreign power. Unlike a lot of people commenting on US Politics and global affairs, I have only one loyalty and that's the United States.

[Adam Curry]

And I'm a podcaster. I thought.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Yeah, I thought that there's no way that's a coincidence. I think that Tucker was talking to Kent.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, because I thought that too. With the difference being the FBI has opened an investigation against Kent and Tucker's talking about the CIA. And I mean, it could just be

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

an elaborate joke or Tucker is just. This is just an elaborate publicity stunt by Tucker.

[Adam Curry]

I wouldn't put it past them to be fair about it.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

So can I go off on my rant?

[Guest or Expert Commentator]

So.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah, go for it.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

So I was like looking around and the funny thing that I found was Tucker is he likes to be talked about. Clearly. And I found a lot of people talking about him. But what I found the most interesting was Pastor Demancy. I think that's how you pronounce it. From Dumont, Washington. I have two parts to it. So the first one is called Dangerous. The other one is final.

[Adam Curry]

Within the west, the church itself is being more and more divided on one singular issue. Israel and the Jewish people. There's lots of doctrinal things, and the church has been fighting for 2000 years with itself about many, many things. That's why there's thousands of denominations. But what we're seeing now more than ever before is that Christians of different ethnicities, different groups, different denominations, Catholic, Protestant. The dividing line seems to be Israel and the Jews. Israel and the Jews. Either you believe God's word when it comes to Israel and the Jewish people, or you believe the Tucker Carlson's and the Candace Owens. And that's really causing a kind of rift right now. Ooh, ooh. Right up my alley. I'll let you finish, and then I'll give you my opinion.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Okay, so then there's a final with this pastor, by the way, is the founder of the Institute for Black Solidarity with Israel, and he's in Charlotte, North Carolina. So let's do the final with him.

[Adam Curry]

It's dangerous because of who he is, the platform that he has. He's still with tpusa. He's still good friends with the Vice President of the United States. Right. This is not just some guy on a street corner yelling with a bullhorn. This guy has access to the highest levels of government in our nation. Right? So. And he's platforms Nick Fuentes. But he's getting really. Any pushback from the people that should be giving him pushback. This is a very dangerous moment for our nation. Okay, so I happened to have a conversation with Pastor Jimmy about this yesterday on we on the. We get to do this podcast. I've been tracking this because it is probably the oldest trick in the book. And the Brits love doing it. And when I say the Brits, you know, MI6, City of London, you know, Wall street affiliated. They love to use religion to divide people. And what has cropped up, and the catalyst was Charlie Kirk. That was the catalyst. And that's when we brought in Israel Jews problem, even though it really started October 7th. But, you know, then we got. That's when we got Candace Owens, we got Tucker, we got Megyn Kelly, we got Ben Shapiro, we have Mark Levine, we've got the Nick Fuentes and the. The conspiracy theory, which is up my alley. You know, I've looked at Many conspiracy theories on the show throughout the years still don't think we landed on the moon. But the conspiracy theory is that about 110 years or about a hundred years ago, the Scofield Bible was published. And the Scofield Bible changed the the way American Christians looked at Israel, which had been since the days of Constantine. So what are we? 300 BC? 300. The year 300. Constantine made Christianity the official religion of Rome and effectively the world. And what Constantine said was Israel is no more. The church is the new Israel. And for 1800 years or whatever, this was what it was. The church is the new Israel. And that's called replacement theory. What's the Scofield? And it's really great. The way the conspiracy theory goes is, well, you know this guy, he edited the Bible, is called the Scofield Bible. Well, he didn't edit the Bible. It was a study Bible. And the study Bible proclaimed dispensationalism, which I find it somewhat convoluted. But there's these divides world history up into seven stages. And we're now in the church stage, but there's a third. And so those are the two camps. The camps are. And I think a lot of Catholics are in the replay or fulfillment. They would call it theology. Like the church is new Israel, you don't need Israel is fine. The dispensationalists are very much the. And I think they're ignorant, the Ted Cruz's of the world, probably speaker of the House Mike Johnson, the president's pastor, Paula White. You know, they're like 1948, that was the fulfillment of scripture. And these people are all hung up on eschatology, the end times, you know, we're almost there. You know, it's coming. Jesus is coming back. And if you read the Bible, there's. Which go ahead.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Which by the way, that definitely reminds me of some of the more ridiculously extreme of the Muslim religions that believe that the only way that Muhammad will come back is if we have apocalypse.

[Adam Curry]

Oh yeah, Armageddon. Exactly, Armageddon. But the way I look at it, and I'm a new Christian, so I have the benefit of listening to a lot of different people and, and my pastor, I've been talking about this with him for months. There's a third way which is called Covenant theology. And in the Bible it says black and white. God says this land is for the chosen people. Now, he doesn't say Benjamin Netanyahu, he doesn't say the borders as drawn in 1948. And we as gentiles are grafted into the Jewish people so that you can believe that Israel belongs to the Jews without having to define it that way and without having to be crazy about it. You don't have to be nuts because you can just read the words that God said.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

So evidently Tucker mistook something that someone said in Israel. So when Palestine was having all the issues, all the Christians moved, they left, they went to other parts of the world, they went to Israel. And Tucker thought that it meant that there was ethnic cleansing of Christians. He completely misunderstood, but that's because he is not. I don't think he has any religious background at all. So I would love to go into this thing. I've got Tykell Carlson, Spirituality. And this is a movie called Christian by Holy Wisdom Films by John Hears. And they have a sneak peek that features Tucker Carlson. So let's do part one.

[Adam Curry]

Do you think the presence of evil is kick starting people to wonder about the good?

[Tucker Carlson]

That's what happened to me.

[John C. Dvorak]

That's what happened to you?

[Tucker Carlson]

Oh, yeah. I had a direct experience with it.

[Adam Curry]

In the milieu of journalism or just.

[Tucker Carlson]

Nope. In my bed at night and I got attacked while I was asleep with my wife and four dogs in the bed and mauled. Physically mauled in a spiritual attack by a demon.

[Adam Curry]

Hold on, what was with the nat pop of the dog?

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

It's in the. I couldn't get it out. I tried.

[Adam Curry]

Right. No, that's perfect.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

That's perfect.

[Tucker Carlson]

Sleep with my wife and four dogs in the bed and mauled. Physically mauled in a spiritual attack by a demon. Yeah, by a demon or by something unseen. That left.

[Adam Curry]

Is that right?

[Tucker Carlson]

Claw marks on my sides? On my.

[John C. Dvorak]

So it left physical marks.

[Tucker Carlson]

Oh, they're still there. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[Tucker Carlson]

A year and a half ago.

[Adam Curry]

Was your wife terrified? I know you were.

[Tucker Carlson]

I wasn't. I was totally confused. I woke up and I couldn't breathe and I thought I was going to suffocate. And I walked around outside and then I walked in and my wife and dogs had not woken up and they're very light sleepers. And then I had these terrible pains on my rib cage and on my shoulder. And I was just in my boxer shorts and I went and flipped on the light in the bathroom and I had four claw marks on either side underneath my arm and on my left shoulder. They're bleeding.

[John C. Dvorak]

Wait, they were bleeding?

[Tucker Carlson]

They're bleeding? Yeah, they're actual claw marks. And I sleep on my side, so I wasn't clawing myself. I don't have long nails and they didn't fit my hands anyway. But, yeah, that happened. So I don't. I'm not from a world where things like that happen. I never heard of anything like that happening before. I had no idea what that was. I knew it was spiritual immediately.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, I. I've heard. I think he told. I think he mentioned a version of this on Joe Rogan. I think he might.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Let's go to part two and then three. They're both short, not from a.

[Tucker Carlson]

What do they call it? Faith tradition that talks about things like that or even acknowledges their existence. Like, there's nothing like that. I've never heard anybody say anything like that in my whole life.

[John C. Dvorak]

What was the next day like?

[Tucker Carlson]

Well, the next morning I woke up and I thought that was the weirdest

[Adam Curry]

dream I've ever had.

[Tucker Carlson]

And then I saw blood on my sheets, and I realized that was not a dream at all. I called my assistant, who was, like, the only evangelical Christian I know, you know, well enough to call with something bizarre like that. Totally bizarre like that. And she said, oh, yeah, no, no, that happens. Yeah. People are attacked in their bed by demons.

[John C. Dvorak]

What?

[Adam Curry]

Wow. Yes.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Which is nonsense because he's Episcopal and they do talk about it. So let's go to three.

[Tucker Carlson]

And I'm not pretending to understand that I can only say what happened to me. And that did happen to me. And. And then I was seized with this very intense desire to read the Bible, which I then started without any study aids or anything. I bought a Bible that didn't have any. I'm not interested in editorializing in the Bible. I just want to read it and see what's in there myself. I have very low levels of trust for Christian pastors, most of whom, you know, I'm just not a fan at all.

[Adam Curry]

Ah. So right there, when he's. There's no reason for him to say, I don't need to study Bible. I think he was set up, or he's being set up. Or he did this purposely to bring in the Scofield Bible conspiracy.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Maybe. Or maybe since it's common across religions that there are fallen angels and symbolic monsters, entities associated with destruction, ethical lapses, and spiritual struggle for human souls. I wonder, why did he go back to bed?

[Adam Curry]

Maybe he popped a Zen and was doing just fine. I don't know.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Well, yes, but not seeking out, really. I mean, I'm sorry if I. During the night, if I suddenly woke up after being visited by a beast, I would certainly seek out guidance. I wouldn't just. Just reject it all and everything that he said since this about the Bible, he is completely wrong. He attributes stuff to Moses that Moses didn't do. It's amazing how much he's twisting the words.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, well, if you listen to the podcast I did with Pastor Jimmy, I mean, he's saying crazy stuff. And I just need to reiterate that, yes, 1948 came from the Balfour Declaration, I think 1917. And it was because Britain created Israel. They created all the, hey, they had the Pico Sykes agreement. Britain and France, they just drew lines on a napkin. And we'll call that Iraq, Iran, we'll call that Syria, Jordan. And then later we're going to put Israel here. It's going to be fantastic. And people say, well, that was created by Zionists. Yeah, it was created by the British. And the whole idea was to have the Jews there to be on both sides of the, you know, on the Sinai to keep, keep Egypt in check. And what was Britain doing? They were funding the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. This has always been about protecting the waterways and the oil. And unfortunately, I find it unfortunate. We do have a lot of politicians, Christians, who are, they're so deeply entrenched into the fulfilling of biblical prophecy of Israel that, yeah, they definitely feel that, oh, we have to protect Israel at all costs. I don't think Trump is one of them. He's pragmatic. He even says the prayer breakfast is, I don't think I'm going to heaven. I don't think I belong there. Because he is about profit. He is about making America wealthy and prosperous again. And so, yes, there are definitely, definitely politicians who are all in on the dispensationalism, all in on Israel being the fulfillment of prophecy. But I don't think that's why Trump is doing this. And I also don't think that Israel has blackmailed him. I mean, so Tucker, Tucker is good friends with Joe Kent. So we get Tucker being investigated by the CIA, Kent investigated by the FBI. Kent resigns. He says two things. He says Iran posed no threat. And he said, well, you know, Israel is the one that dragged us into it. And he shows up on Tucker show

[Tucker Carlson]

yesterday because the attacks on him have prevented an honest conversation about what he's actually saying. And what he's saying is. And he says it clearly, and we're going to ask him about it directly in just a moment. Israel got us into this war. Its lobby in the United States pressured the President. And its prime minister in Israel told the president, we're going without you. Join us. Because if you don't Your troops in the region, your interest in the region, your citizens in the region will all be at risk. You have no choice. They led the way. That's Joe Kent's position. And rather than push back against that and say, no, actually, he's wrong, they're telling you to shut up. And why are they doing that? Well, there's only one reason people ever become hysterical and slanderous, start screaming at you rather than answering you, is because they're lying.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, yes, of course, of course. Because they're lying. So he gets Kent on. And I'm glad that we talked about Rubio and his statement, which was so overtly clear, what he was trying to communicate. And after I talked to former JAG military lawyer Rob, the constitutional lawyer, he agreed. So it's not just me. He agreed that this was a brilliant move because they filed with the United nations under section 51. They filed that they were protecting the interests of the United States after Israel attacked Iran because they did not want Congress blocking anything that they're doing. You notice you don't hear about the War Powers Resolution anymore because it doesn't apply, because the lawyers know that the paperwork is filed. And Rubio had to. He, in essence, was providing cover. And exactly as I thought, as exactly as. People were spiking the ball in the end zone. Tucker and Kent used this Rubio speech as clear proof that Israel dragged us into this. And I see you weak trolls saying the same thing in the troll room.

[Tucker Carlson]

I think it's important to stop and say, here's what we actually know. So I'd like now, if we could, just to play one of the statements that you alluded to, and that's from Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State. And this was shortly after this war commenced. And he was explaining in a, as is his habit, in a thoughtful, precise way, why here's Secretary of State Marco Rubio.

[Adam Curry]

And so the President made the very wise decision. We knew that there was going to be an Israeli action. We knew that that would precipitate an

[Chrissy Gnome]

attack against American forces.

[Adam Curry]

And we knew that if we didn't preempt the effectively go after them before they launch those attacks, we would suffer higher casualties and perhaps even higher those killed. And then we would all be here answering questions about why we knew that and didn't happen.

[Tucker Carlson]

Okay, so that is his almost contemporaneous explanation, and it's not offhand. He reasons it out. He explains there's a logic chain there. And he says, we knew not that Iran was going to attack. He did not say that. He said, we knew that Israel was going to attack Iran. And in retaliation for those attacks by Israel against Iran, Iran might attack American forces. So the imminent threat that the Secretary of State is describing is not from Iran, it's from Israel.

[Chrissy Gnome]

Exactly. And I think this speaks to the broader issue. Who is in charge of our policy

[Adam Curry]

in the Middle East?

[Chrissy Gnome]

Who's in charge of when we decide to go to war or not? In this case, with what the Secretary described and later on the President, later on the speaker of the House and the way the events played out, out, the Israelis drove the decision to take this action, which we knew would set off a series of events, meaning the Iranians would retaliate.

[Adam Curry]

It's so unbelievable to me. If it was truly Israeli, I can see people say, oh, he's got a Zionist gun pointed at his head. That's why he's doing it. The guy got shot. He doesn't care. He does not care. He doesn't care about the midterms, doesn't care about anything. He cares about getting the British system out of America. It surrounds us as a, you know, what do you think Canada is? They have been running the oil business, the shipping business, the shipping insurance business for a hundred years. And we've. We've always been the dummies who've protected them. When it came down to it, oh, we'll go into World War I. Well, we'll go into World War II. 2. And Trump is saying, no, we are going to stop it and we're going to control it. That is what's happening here. And Israel has not so far, they've only had downside. They've only got bombs incoming. They only have bad things happening. It has not benefited them. And now, this was the kicker, what Tucker says here.

[Tucker Carlson]

So you've already seen, in the wake of a recent terror attack, neocons use that attack as a way to try and censor, shut down, maybe even imprison critics of the decision to go to war in Iran. So it's almost like you control both sides. You advocate.

[Adam Curry]

Did you hear what he said there?

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

He said, we killed a religious leader, so now it's a religious war. What, are you kidding me? Now? This is not a religious leader. This is a nut job as a

[Tucker Carlson]

way to try and censor, shut down, maybe even imprison critics of the decision to go to war in Iran. So it's almost like you control both sides. You advocate for a war which inevitably stokes religious hatred because you advocate for the killing of a religious leader. Okay, so you're helping to create religious war, permanent generational religious war. And then when your country or the country you happen to be living in that you don't really care about about, feels the effects when Americans are killed as a result of that, you use their deaths to justify the silencing of people who criticized you. Does that make sense? No.

[Chrissy Gnome]

Exactly.

[Tucker Carlson]

Yeah. So how much are you concerned we're going to see more of that?

[Chrissy Gnome]

I'm very concerned. I pray we won't. But the odds are not in our favor, just considering how open our borders have been. Obviously, this type of propaganda radical radicalizes people. Again. We've seen attacks. We saw attacks inspired by the conflict in Gaza. So I think we're going to see more of this. And then just, you know, made the mistake of opening up Twitter a couple times today. There's people calling for, you know, dissenting voices to be charged, to be locked up, of course. Etc, and so.

[Tucker Carlson]

And they may be.

[Chrissy Gnome]

The erosion of civil rights, I think, during a time of conflict is nothing. Nothing new, unfortunately. We've seen it before.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

It's the rule.

[Adam Curry]

This is the part I don't understand. Who's being silenced.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Well, besides that, I have never heard anyone since Tucker's been on his own show has pushed back against him. You know, like, nobody pushes back. It's not like he's got any guardrails. I hate to use that term, but it's like nobody's hauling him in and he's getting nuttier and nuttier.

[Adam Curry]

Well, I think he's an agent. I think he is an agent for Britain. And he is at the genesis of all of this, the whole Charlie Kirk thing. He's drawing that all towards him. Be saying, oh, the whole problem is that Charlie wouldn't. Wouldn't bar me from speaking at TP usa. The Jews hated it. This is what the British crown. This is what the city of London does. And I am connecting Charlie Kirk's murder to all of this. And it's successful because it has completely driven a schism into the conservative right in the United States. And it's those who think Israel did everything and those who don't.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Well, now I understand why Carlson was visited by a beast in the middle of the night.

[Adam Curry]

Now, I will say, as a Christian, I gotta say, Ephesians 6, we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness and the spiritual forces of evil in heavenly places. I truly believe that. I believe we are. There is constant spiritual warfare going on I'm just not sure what attacked Tucker, if you know what I mean.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Well, we'll see.

[Adam Curry]

And the, and, and so I'm going to make it even crazier because we're all nuts here in the hill Country. You know, Roseanne Barr moved to the hill country. She lives.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Oh, I'm sorry.

[Adam Curry]

Right outside of Fredericksburg. I see her from time to time. She's, she's a very odd woman. You know, she's five foot one, maybe five.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Oh, yeah, she's tiny. Yeah, she's tiny.

[Adam Curry]

And I was introduced to. She doesn't shake hands, she shakes arm. So you know like a brother handshake where you grab each other's wrist and you don't shake hands. You grab the wrist. I don't shake hands. It was very strange. Yeah, but she was on with Beanie Boy with Tim Pool and she gets it.

[British Empire/City of London Analyst]

Well, the truth is that the Royal British Empire is behind all of it.

[John C. Dvorak (hospital segments)]

Uh oh.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, no. Let's go. Let's do it.

[Chrissy Gnome]

Tell me about it.

[British Empire/City of London Analyst]

And that is what Trump is, you know, pretty much much kicked in the guts of. And that's because of Prince Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein and all the banks of City of London. That's what's really coming down. And of course, Iran is a great, you know, money laundering center of all of that. And it sells, you know, 20% of its gas to China. So Trump has put them all in, including Cuba. He's put their whole network that nobody ever talks about because they don't want to know the truth of how it's just British imperialism. Standard Oil is a better word for it than British imperialism. They'll go anywhere for the oil. They'll make up fake states all over the world and then sell weapons to both sides of every skirmish because they make money for their stock markets. Housed in Basel, Switzerland, at the bank of International and Settlements where they decide and fund every war because they make money on war. They are the military, industrial, pharma, whatever, medical, every. They are consolidated raw power and they are royal and you know, come on.

[Adam Curry]

And in the past 20 or 30 years, things have been degrading internationally.

[Guest or Expert Commentator]

I think we need to be more capitalized, more complex than that.

[Adam Curry]

Again, it's like we.

[Guest or Expert Commentator]

Same issue that the, the anti Semites are making. Blaming Jews for everything. We need to be careful not to fall into the same.

[British Empire/City of London Analyst]

No, we can easily blame the banks of the City of London. Absolutely.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

I think that's more true.

[Adam Curry]

I agree with that more than the, than the royal family specifically.

[British Empire/City of London Analyst]

But the royal family, you know, is the front office for that. Let's be real.

[Guest or Expert Commentator]

I think it's, it's involved. It has historic. Yes, it has tendrils everywhere.

[Adam Curry]

But it's just. There's no one, I think, competent.

[Guest or Expert Commentator]

Competent enough to be doing that.

[Adam Curry]

Listen to this Brit. Trying to defend.

[Guest or Expert Commentator]

Most of them are just sort of like they're in a kind of retirement home. Generally, the entire royal family, the, the,

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

the, the prominent members, like the royals

[British Empire/City of London Analyst]

of this world, own the central bank of all central banks, which is all royal, not just uk, not just you.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, maybe.

[British Empire/City of London Analyst]

And they're all related to each other, too. There's about 13 families of them.

[Adam Curry]

Let's, let's jump to this next door. We've got this. Yeah. Okay. Go ahead, Tim Pool. Don't, don't dive into it, Tim. You might get. You might get Charlie Kirk. You don't want that.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

You know. You know who defends the royal family more than the. Those in the uk? Trump, The Canadians.

[Adam Curry]

Trump is always talking nice about him, but I think that's. That's a wink and a nudge. Oh, yeah, but all of the. She's right. They are. Look, the Van Montbattens, they're all German. They're related to the Dutch. They're related to the Danes, related to the Swedes. They are. Just watch the crown. Watch Victoria. You get a real good sense of how that inbreeding has worked throughout the years and where they get all the money. East India Company, The British Empire was robbing the entire world. All that money went. What were they living off of? And now we have this kind of joke where, oh, where the taxpayers are paying for Buckingham Palace. These people own so much actual land, it's not funny.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Well, and what no one ever talks about, there's a really excellent book called the Merchants of Grain the Talk. And it's been updated in the last few years. Five families control all the grain in the world. In the entire world. And if they want to cause famine, okay, you don't get your wheat this year.

[Adam Curry]

Is that Cargill? Are they a part of the family?

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

It's not Cargill's. Another layer. There's Cargill and. Can't think of all the names. We have some big privately owned corporations that control our meat and control everything else. But there are five families that are very secretive. But it's lay out in this book called the Merchants of Grain, which I highly recommend because you read it and you go, I've never heard of these people. And they're tied into the international banking as well.

[Adam Curry]

And not the grain part, although he made or the company. Now it's Dreyfus. Julia Louis Dreyfus grandfather. He's one of the biggest shysters when it comes to oil. Getting oil from Libya, bringing it to Iran, back and forth. I mean, you're right. There are families you never ever hear about who were involved in all of this trade. And I'm pretty sure Trump sees through that. And someone said on Twitter the other day, oh man, you guys have Trump drain syndrome in reverse. I said, what are you talking about? So you never talk about this. Well, don't listen to every episode, I guess, because we have and I show them bingit IO look, here it is. Well, you should criticize Trump more. I said, if it's valid. If it's valid. Well, we criticize Trump plenty if it's valid. And if we just happen to agree with what we see, then we're Zionist shills. And especially me as the crazy Christian nationalist Zionists at work.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Well, the one thing to remember is Trump has dealt with people who are way richer than him. He's dealt with some because in the business that he's always been in, I mean, his family's not that rich. They really aren't. They're kind of like low level Richard. And you know, when you at that level, there are people who are so far head and shoulders above you that he has a perspective that most people don't have because he's dealt with them, he's made deals with them, he's talked to them. There are people who are, you can't even imagine how much they control and how rich they are. And they're just people. I mean, that's just it. You know, my whole thing is, you know, everybody's a person, everybody poops.

[Adam Curry]

Everybody poops.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Exactly. But you know, you know, I there in my past I've known some people who are rich and I'd go, oh, you're rich. They'd go, oh, no, not at all. I'm like the poor rich. I'm like the wrong side of the border rich. And I'd be like, but you've got like a hundred million dollars. Oh, you have no idea.

[Adam Curry]

True, I remember. And our Dutch listeners will remember Nina Brink. Nina Brink was the Dutch lady who bought up a couple of different Internet companies, Internet access companies, and was going to launch World Online. And World Online was going to be a global Internet services provider. You know, this is from the days we still had dial up modems and everything. She bought Euronet and a couple other companies and she was going to float it on the stock market. She'd already been very successful with Business IT Systems, a company called Aline. And Ron Bloom and I, we went to raise money from her, which is how I came to know her. And I immediately saw what kind of a woman she was. She's kind of this power woman, dressed in the typical kind of pastel color, the fuzzy dress that's supposed to be very expensive. And she's got the helmet, Chanel jackets. Yeah. And she has hair like Queen Ursula Fondelayan. And right out of the bat she said, oh, this is great. Yes, we'll invest a million dollars in you in a subordinated loan. Okay, goodbye. That's not investing. You're lending us money. And then if we do anything good with it, you get the first money out. And if we don't, then we're your slave for the rest of our lives. But I got to know her. I tried to sell her a helicopter at one point. Wasn't very successful. But this was a big flop, this float, because turns out, right before the ipo, it came out that she had pre sold all of her shares before it went public. But I remember so clearly at certain point she said to me, oh, you know, this is before the ipo. The Rothschilds are interested. The Rothschilds. And she was like a slug. The Rothschilds. Oh, the Rothschilds are interested. And she's a very wealthy woman. The same, you know, hundreds of millions.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

But when, oh, she heard the Roth. Oh, I might even meet the Rothschilds. I'm like, wow, you are a sycophant, lady. You're. You're sick. So, yeah, yeah. And so I see the game that that Trump is playing, it's an oil game. It's a. Now the problem is this is going to cost a lot of money. He's already asking for, you know, trillion and a half dollar, the military budget next year. The only way to fix the debt is to get interest rates way down and to switch the monetary system to stablecoin so that we still have the world reserve currency. Because if we don't have the world reserve currency through stablecoin, which are backed by Treasuries, then we're toast. So it is a big gamble. I mean, it's Trump casino level gamble. And that didn't turn out so well. So. So, you know, but at least he's doing something different, right? That's what I like. And I don't like war, of course, I don't like that. But we, every single one of us listening or speaking was born into a world at war. Every single person that is the world.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Well you know, it's not like we aren't warring a warring species. That's what we do. We form tribes and then we war against another tribe. That's what we've done been since the beginning. I mean that's why there's no the Neanderthals here anymore. You know. You know the there were other species and we wiped them out.

[Adam Curry]

Or we and maybe we may we just need to come to terms with our own culture. We are a warring fighting people.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

That's what we are. That is and we believe it's it's just when we do it

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

was fun.

[Adam Curry]

I'm sure it's fun. Let's be honest. That's not fun. Let's do something fun because this came across from New York Post. I believe it's an AI voice which is disappointing, but the story is fantastic.

[Jim Morrison]

President Trump was stunned to learn that US Intelligence indicates new Iranian Supreme Leader most about Khamenei may be gay and that his father, the late Ayatollah Ali Khamenei feared his suitability to rule the Islamic Republic. For that reason, the Post can reveal Trump couldn't contain a surprise and laughed aloud when he was briefed on the intel, according to sources. Others in the room also found it, quote, hilarious and joined the president's reaction. While one senior intelligence official has not stopped laughing about it for days, said one person familiar with the briefing. The shocking claim was discriminated described to the Post by two intelligence community officials and a third person close to the White House. All three sources say the implausible sounding allegation is viewed as credible by U S spy agencies. Two of the sources said the intelligence indicates that Mojtaba has had a long term sexual relationship with his childhood tutor. The third source said the intelligence indicated the affair was with a person who formerly worked for the Kamine family. Mosteba, who is the believed to have been wounded in the same Feb. 28 airstrike that killed his father and other members of his family has made aggressive sexual overtures to men caring for him, possibly while under the influence of heavy medication. One of the Post sources said US spy agencies do not have photographic evidence of the 56 year old's alleged sexual attraction to men, but the sources insisted the tip is solid, with one saying it was derived from one of the most protected sources sources that the government has.

[Adam Curry]

I don't know if you caught that, but when someone says the tip is solid, I'm Like, I'm sold on the story. Thank you very much. The gay Atolla, the Gayatollah, Khomeini. Perfect.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

You know, you know, his father, I'm shocked. His father let him live.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

All these, all these people, you know, saying, oh, you know, we're protesting against, you know, for Iran, against the United States. Do they understand that, that homosexuality isn't, is a death sentence, that, you know, other opinions aren't accepted? I mean, it's like all these people would be dead if they went to Iran under the last regime under the irgc. I love the fact. Yeah, I bet he is gay. Good.

[Adam Curry]

He kind of looks.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

I'm all for him.

[Adam Curry]

Now that I look at the guy, my gaydar does kind of go off. Like, I never thought, never looked at him that way. Okay.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Oh, you like him, huh?

[Adam Curry]

No, no, I'm not, not, not into that. Not into. So over overnight there was some, you know, at this point I'm thinking, what is. Because clearly, you know, everything is destroyed. Their radar, their air force, they, they can still shoot off some missiles, I'm sure. But the drones, they still got drones zones and the Straits of Hormuz. I mean, I'm thinking more and more like maybe we just keep that shut for a little bit. I mean, we're working on alternatives with our GCC friends in the Abraham Accords. It's only a tenth of what it needs to be, but it is an alternative. Iranian attacks on the oil facilities of neighboring Gulf nations creating new chaos from exports. Brian? Iranian attacks have targeted the United Arab Emirates port of Fujairah for the second day in a row, reportedly triggering a large fire at an oil facility there. Fujairah is one of the very few points of export for Gulf oil producing nations that bypasses the Strait of Hormuz. It's the terminus for an Emirati oil pipeline that runs from Habshan. That's a port that lies before the key maritime choke point, now effectively closed by the threat of Iranian attacks. That pipeline typically handles around 1 1/2 million barrels per day, maxing out at 1.8 million of the UAE's 3.5 million daily total. Iran is well aware of the pipeline's value in allowing tankers to avoid this trade of Hormuz. Saudi Arabia has its own bypass pipeline going from Abkaiq on the Persian Gulf to Yaakov Yanbu on the Red Sea. A fleet of tankers has now gathered at Yanbu waiting to load up on oil. Shipments from Yanbu have gone from 2.1 million barrels per day to 3.1 million over the past week. The head of the International Energy Agency, meanwhile, says the current war has created the largest oil supply disruption in the history of global markets. So that's only 10% of what normally comes through the straits. But maybe they can. Can amp that up. I'm not sure. I think that. And Tina texted me the other day, I just filled up my car with premium. It was 469A gallon. Thanks, Trump. Well, yeah, yes, it sucks right now, but I really think that this is more shenanigans than anything. This is going to get solved. What we want is China to pay rent. Retail. Stop with your wholesale prices. China, retail.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Right. I didn't get a clip, but evidently the, the. A Russian tanker was hit by. Why can't I remember the name of the country?

[Adam Curry]

Ukraine.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Ukraine, yeah, By. Ukraine. By.

[Adam Curry]

No, no, no, I'm not going to let you say Ukraine because that's.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Okay, Okay. I can't.

[Adam Curry]

Ukraine. Ukraine.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Ukraine. Okay. Ukraine. And the tanker is on fire. It has liquid petroleum gas and crude and it's floating off of Italy and everyone's been told to stay, you know, shelter 500 kilometers away because it's a bomb. They don't know when it's going to go off.

[Adam Curry]

Nice.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Well, this is, this is what's amazing. Amazing when it comes to lng, liquefied natural gas, that's our business.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

So when, when this happened the other day, when Iran bombed the gas field or gas installation, that belongs to the Qataris, you know, they share this one huge gas field in the Gulf there. It's like that, only that's going to Europe, Europe, and that means we're going to be selling more of it. So, I mean, to me it's like, okay. And then Trump was mad at the Israelis about this.

[Liz Landers]

South Pars is the largest natural gas field in the world, split between Iran and Qatar. Iran says it was targeted by airstrikes overnight, reportedly by Israel, Iran's president, warning of consequences beyond control. And Qatar accused Israel of a dangerous and irresponsible step that threatens global energy security. In response, Iran advised citizens near five oil and gas facilities in US Allied Gulf states, including Qatar, to evacuate. And on Wednesday night, Qatar reported major damage from a missile attack at a refinery. Saudi Arabia also said it intercepted ballistic missiles, missiles. The price of oil has spiked again amid the tensions and as the Gulf remains closed off for energy exports to nations Iran sees as allied with the US And Israel.

[Adam Curry]

We all agree, of course, that strait has to open up again. And what I know is that allies are working together discussing how to do that. No, no.

[Liz Landers]

Allies have so far refused White House requests for help to open up the Strait of Hormuz overnight. The U.S. military says it struck Iranian missile sites along the strait.

[Guest or Expert Commentator]

The United States military has a lot

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

of capabilities as you have seen play

[Adam Curry]

out over the last 18 days, and

[Guest or Expert Commentator]

they still do have tricks up their sleeve.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, tricks up their sleep. So here, here's what the President posted. Truth. He truth. It says Israel, out of anger for what has taken place in the Middle east, has violently lashed out at a major facility known as South Parse Gas field in Iran. A relatively small section of the whole has been hit. The United States knew nothing about this particular attack and the country of Qatar was in no way, shape or form involved with it, nor did it have any idea what was going to happen. Unfortunately, Iran did not know this or any of the pertinent facts pertaining to the South Pars attack and unjustifiably and unfairly attacked a portion of Qatar's LNG gas facility. And then uppercase, no more attacks will be made by Israel. Cuz, you know, he's got that Zionist gun to his head, so he's, that's why he's doing it in uppercase pertaining to this extremely important and valuable South Pars field. Unless Iran unwisely decides to attack a very innocent, in this case Qatar, in which instance the United States of America, with or without the help or consent of Israel, because Israel needs that gas, will massively blow up. That's bigger than just big. Will massively blow up the entirety of the South Parse gas field and an amount of strength and power that Iran has never seen or witnessed before. I do not want to authorize this level of violence and destruction because of the long term implications that it will have on the future of Iran. But if Qatar's LNG is attacked again, I will not hesitate to do so. Thank you for your attention to this matter. So there is the President afraid of Israel? I guess he's pissed. And they, I'm going to, I'm going to guarantee you they don't do that again.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

I love that line.

[Adam Curry]

Thank you for this attention. Thank you for attention to this matter.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Yeah, I hope this letter finds you well. Yeah, that's, that's actually, that's pretty frightening, the thought of what we could do. You know, like I'm gonna, I'm gonna take my ball and bat and I'm going home.

[Adam Curry]

Well, we're not gonna go home. And this is, this is going to this is going to be resolved and everything will. And the question is, will Iran figure it out? And for sure we have so called boots on the ground and we've got got agents and all over the place. You know, the, the IRCG is, they're a kind of a distributed organization. So they're targeting all these regional IRGC offices. There's a lot going on. I'm just hearing about this. I have no proof of it other than what military people are telling me, which could be propaganda, I don't know. But it sounds true. We don't have troop carriers going out there yet. And I don't think that will happen.

[John C. Dvorak (hospital segments)]

I don't think so.

[Adam Curry]

And I think it will return back to some normalcy probably within the next few weeks and then we'll see. But even apparently former presidents are a little envious that Trump is the one who did this.

[John C. Dvorak]

Other presidents should have done. I spoke to one of the former presidents who I actually like, actually speak to some, I do like some people would be shocking. And he said, I wish I did what you did could have done it. Other presidents, somebody should have done it. 47 years this went on. They call Iran the bully of the Middle East. And you could have never had the Abraham Accords. You could never have had peace in the Middle East. Now you're going to have peace. You could never do it with the dark cloud of a nuclear Iran. But Iran is a shell of itself. It's no longer a bully. It's the one that gets bullied. It's a bully that got beat up. We beat the crap out of them and, and they deserve that.

[Adam Curry]

I just want to ask you about something very interesting that you said twice today that you talked to another former

[Liz Landers]

president of the Iran strikes.

[Adam Curry]

Was it George W. Bush?

[John C. Dvorak]

No.

[Adam Curry]

Was it Bill Clinton?

[John C. Dvorak]

I don't want to say. I don't want to say because Barack

[Adam Curry]

Obama, a member of a party, a

[John C. Dvorak]

member of a party, they have Trump derangement syndrome. But it's somebody that happens to like me and I like that person who's a smart person, but that person said, I wish I did it, okay, but I don't want to get into who. I don't want to get him into trouble. Maybe, hey, you know what? Yeah, I think you probably know. You know, it's interesting and maybe he'd be proud and I could even ask him that. Would you like me to reveal your name to Peter at Fox? Hi. Well, at least you have high ratings.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Hillary wouldn't let him come on.

[Adam Curry]

Exactly. Hey, Donald, I really like that, man. I wish I had done that. Would have been good. Could have been real good. Yeah. Hillary wouldn't let him. Exactly. Exactly.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Yeah. Yeah. I thought that was funny, the guessing game, you know, That's Trump.

[Adam Curry]

What else you got on your list here, Mimi? You seem to have other things you brought along to the party.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

So did you watch the Oscars?

[Adam Curry]

You know, I'm glad you asked. First of all, ratings down almost 10% over last year. Only three and a half million in the demo. Watch. So that. That is an objective failure. I could not even get through the monologue. The first problem for me was he does the opening sequence. And I have not seen any of the movies, so I knew that this all related to the movies, but I had not seen any of them because who goes to the movie theaters anymore? And the mic sounded so bad. Bad. I. I could not. I couldn't get. I was like, oh, man. It could not get. It bothered me too much. And. And. And we'll. And I. I thought the decor was orange, like burnt orange kind of color. So, no, I did. I. On YouTube. I later went back and I looked at my favorite segment, the Dead segment. And there's Barbara singing the Way We Were. And she was. It was crowded.

[Tucker Carlson]

Crap.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, she's.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

She. She doesn't look. She doesn't look.

[Adam Curry]

She looks like. Who was our.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

The Crypt Keeper.

[Adam Curry]

No, no, no. Who was our Health and Human Services secretary? The admiral. And the dude in the dress. Who was that? Who was that?

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

I don't remember, but yes.

[Adam Curry]

Come on. Who was. Who was that? That's what she looked like right away. Cena's like that.

[John C. Dvorak]

That.

[Tucker Carlson]

That's the Admiral.

[Adam Curry]

I said the Admiral. Yeah. From. From Health and Human Services. I gotta. I gotta look up his name. Name now. Levine. That's right. Levine.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Levine.

[Adam Curry]

Levine.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

So, you know, for. For several years, she had a summer place that she would come to up here, and I would see her at. At the local, you know, little independent grocery store.

[Adam Curry]

No. Barbara or Levine?

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Barbara.

[Adam Curry]

Babs. Yes.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

And so her husband is. What's her husband? Her husband is. What's Mr. Baby?

[Adam Curry]

Oh, Brosnan. Pierce Brosnan. So I.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

So I run into him at. At Sunny Farms. I love Sunny Farms. And I was looking at him, and he had one of those.

[Adam Curry]

Is that a spa for celebrities? Sunny Farms. Is that where you go?

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Sunny Farms is the nut. It's the local nut house that has great vegetables. It has a butcher counter. It's just a little. It's a little independent grocery store. Trendy. So I go there and Broslin's there, and I don't recognize him, really, But I noticed he had the most beautiful haircut I' seen for a long time.

[Adam Curry]

Brolin. I'm sorry. Josh Brolin. Josh. Thank you.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

So he. He has. It's one of those haircuts that looks like every hair was cut individually measured and cut individually. It was gorgeous. And I went, that's a. You've got a great haircut.

[Adam Curry]

Well, you said that?

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Yeah, I said that to him.

[John C. Dvorak]

Why not?

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

I'm, you know, I'm in the potato aisle. And he looks at me and he goes, do you know who I am? And I went, well, do you know who I am?

[Adam Curry]

Oh, now that's okay.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

And I walk away.

[Adam Curry]

You showed him, Mimi. Just so you know, I'm merry, Diane. I own this place up here. Squim. Whatever it's called. Port Angeles.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

So. So Barbara would always. Barbara, whatever you say. Your name. Streisand would be in line shopping with us peasants, you know, with like. Like sunglasses on and really expensive shoes.

[Adam Curry]

You have. You have a hatred of famous people.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Well, and she's looking around like, who's recognizing me? And it's like, we don't give a. You know, you're in Sunny Farms. We don't care. You shop. And she'd be up here all the time. You'd run into her. I ran into her maybe five or six times. She didn't look like that. I mean, she's had some work, and it doesn't look good. I absolutely loved. I have a Fonda about Red Flag Redford clip.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, can I. Before you go in, I just. Oh, no, we'll play that. And then I have to say something about your hatred for famous people. Fonda. Fonda. Oh, Fonda. Here we go. I mean, we lost so many greats this year.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

I want to know how come Streisand was up there doing that for Redford. She only made one movie with him.

[Guest or Expert Commentator]

I made four.

[Adam Curry]

You made four more to say See it Now.

[Jim Morrison]

I mean, what do you remember most

[Adam Curry]

about working with Robert Redford?

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

I was always at. In love with him.

[Adam Curry]

Fonda. How old. How old is Fonda now? How old is she?

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

About the same age, you know, in her 80s, 88. And she looks like she had a few to drink.

[Chrissy Gnome]

So.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Did you notice who they left out of the. Of the. Of the memoir?

[Adam Curry]

No, who did they leave out?

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

They left out Brigitte Bardot, Robert Carradine, Bud.

[Adam Curry]

Really? Huh.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Richard Shame Chamberlain. And they left out David Kiley, who invented Imax.

[Adam Curry]

Huh?

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

It was. Yeah, I, I couldn't watch it. I wouldn't watch it. John described he was, since he was in the hospital, he had nothing else to do. He described early on.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, he watched it.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Yeah, he did. Well, twice, I think of the. Early on, there were three people who were up on stage and the first two got to speak and the third one, the music queued up and she was like, okay. And then somebody said, no, no, you're, you're with Netflix. Thank Netflix. And they stopped, they didn't lower the music, they just stopped it to allow her to give her net.

[Adam Curry]

So you, your stance towards famous people, the way I just heard you talk about her and say that she was looking around to see if anyone recognized, recognize her. You could be a Dutch person. Dutch. This is how Dutch people are around celebrities overnight. I was famous in the Netherlands at 19 years of age because I was doing a live music show on one of the two television stations and there was nothing else to watch. That was it. And I would be in a store or somewhere and people would come up to me and, and said, I don't know who you are because I don't watch television. And that reminds me of you, Mimi, this hatred of people who are famous. This is very interesting and you've mentioned this to me. He said, I don't get celebrity, I don't like famous people. What is your problem, lady?

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Well, wait a minute, let's go back. My father's mother, my grandmother, my accent native grandmother was a stage, on stage. She was actually a very famous stage actress. And she's the one who introduced WC Fields to her producers and got him in a play called Poppy, which later became Sally of the Sawdust, his first motion picture, Emma. Her name was Emma Janvier. And Emma Janvier died in 1921, 22, right around there during the production of Poppy. And so my dad knew everybody as a kid, everybody in the whole business. I mean, you know, people that no one will remember, but. And you know, as a little kid, I'd ask him, well, because at WC Fields, my dad stayed close all through my dad's life.

[Adam Curry]

Tell, tell people who W.C. fields was because I don't think everybody knows. People don't even 20 year olds don't even know who Michael Jackson is. So you've got to explain, okay, W.C.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

fields was a vaudevillian juggler, one of the best jugglers in the world. He juggled whole cigar boxes and many of them. Yeah, I know. And he, he, he did. He was mostly in vaudeville, which is How Emma knew him because Emma was also in vaudeville. Emma got him into the movies and. Or into the. That one play which led to the movies. And he was in a series of movies. He did a lot of radio shows. He was exceptionally popular because he was such a goofball. Character. Character. And he had a funny delivery. Like he'd be like, you know, my little chickadee. And I would ask my dad as a kid, you know, did he talk like that? And my dad would go, no, he talked just like you and me. What do you. What do you think? He's just a person. So in my life, I've been able to meet lots of people who are famous. And some people, you know, I feel sorry for them because you never have a moment without somebody there or the paparazzi showing up and taking pictures or people just intruding on you. And so I've always just kind of like, you know, I've.

[Adam Curry]

Let me know. Let me say this about that.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Yes. You know about that.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, I do. I am uniquely qualified to discuss this. Any celebrity can. Can get around that. Yeah, you can get around it. You may have some restrictions on your life. Like maybe you can't eat at the IV in Hollywood. Would, you know, we're in an out

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

burger with an Oscar in your hand.

[Adam Curry]

Maybe, maybe. You know, I've had. In the Netherlands, when I was with my first wife, before we were married, it was quite scandalous. She was still married. She was 16 years my senior. Both in show business, small country. We had photographers in the trash can. I kid you not. It was hilarious. But in, in general, general, it was quite easy to get around stuff and not, you know, I never felt like, oh, I. I have no privacy. I can't live, you know, if you don't have to live in the big house in Brentwood, you know, you can, you can live all kinds of different places. Hollywood is not Hollywood. You don't need to live there. Which is why I have so much respect for, you know, many. Like Harrison Ford doesn't live somewhere. Montana or whatever, you know, go away. Go live somewhere else. I have enjoyed fame for it and I can. I remember three specific instances, but it's it. And people know me from two things and it's been fantastic. So when I was in my 1920s, I was known in Holland and across Europe. There was one. One scary kind of time when I got mobbed at an airport in Portugal. But it was also cool. I'm like, wow, look at this. I'm like the Beatles. It was awesome. But I was, you know, I was 20, whatever. So it. Or yeah, 20. I remember moving to New York in the late mid to late 80s, and I just. On MTV. MTV was. Had just gone to basic cable, 40 million households. So it was definitely a thing. And I. And we lived on 56 and Broadway, and we walked to the Hard rock Cafe on 57th. And there's, you know, the Hard Rock. It was such a thing. I mean, people stood in line to get into the Hard Rock. And so we were in line, you know, and, you know, I had my baseball cap on. Whatever, you know, wasn't necessarily a. Look at me. I'm Adam Curry with the hair all poofed up. And I remember. I remember the doorman rushing up to me and saying, hey, Adam. Hey, man, you don't have to stand in line. Come on in. And so got in. We ate for free. They gave us all kinds of cool hard rock stuff. I remember thinking to myself, wow, that's really odd. Like, two weeks ago, I would have had to stay in the line, and now I'm in here eating for free, getting free swag. This is great. And so that was the one time. And so I'm either known for those days. I was known for MTV for a long time. It was bad and also not good for me. After I left mtv, I started my company. This became a big company. We took it public in NASDAQ, on NASDAQ in 96. And we had big customers. Budweiser, Reebok, IBM, Avon. Like just Fortune 500 companies at the time. And it was great because we do a sales meeting, and pretty much this all fell on the marketing department. But they'd always bring in the IT guys. So I could swoon over the ladies in the marketing department who were gonna make decisions. But I also had the technological background to talk to the IT nerds. That was good. But the bad part was whenever something. Whenever we screwed up, it's like I had to go fly. And I had to go apologize to the ladies in the marketing department. Send the MTV guy in. And now in my. My early 60s, I'm 61, but ever since my 50s, you know, I've been in Texas, kind of, you know, low profile. I'm just. I'm just a dude, you know, I'm a podcaster. I'm known from Rogan and from. And from podcasting. And the only benefit, which I enjoy tremendously, is that restaurant, restaurants, restaurants will always get me a good table. The owner always comes over, he's got a Metallica T shirt underneath you know, And I have to say, it's fantastic. I love it.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Well, okay.

[Adam Curry]

And I'm a great tipper. I'm a great. But value for value, baby. I'm a value for value tipper.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

I'm a great tipper because I was a waitress for a long time. So when I. So, okay, I've had this convoluted background. Lived in Reno and then lived in Iran and then came to California for a year. And then my parents were deciding, we went back to Reno and my father was going back to being a merchant marine. So he got offered a job with my Matson lines from Hawaii to the west Coast. So we went and stayed in Hawaii for the entire three months of the summer because my mother needed to be convinced that she could live in Hawaii because that would be my dad's home base in Honolulu. So this was back before jumbo jets. So Hawaii wasn't super crowded. It was just for the ultra rich. And we stayed at the Royal Hawaiian for three months.

[Adam Curry]

Wow.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

I had a great childhood. Yeah, this was like 68. So I. My parents just let me have run to the hotel so I could go down, I could sign for food, I could, you know, I could go to the beach before dawn. And I usually left the room right before dawn because, you know, I. I was a kid, I had no controls, I was everywhere. So I would. My favorite thing to do would be to go sit, sit in the next to the pool in the Royal Hawaiian right before dawn. Because you would. It was amazing. You could smell the plumeria and you could all these great intoxicating scents. And then breakfast would start and it would be slowly evolve into the city waking up and the smell of bacon cooking and all that. So one morning I'm down there and I've got, you know, my feet in the pool and somebody comes up and sits down next to me. And he was a couple years old and than me. Really nice. We hung out with each other for several mornings. But that one morning we just. We just talked and he talked about what a burden it was to be famous. And I, you know, he really influenced me in a lot of ways because I could see it through his eyes because he was really lamenting it. I was lamenting being lonely because, you know, I had my brother in Reno. My brother had gone off to the university. I kept getting ripped back and forth away from friends. And I'm in Hawaii. I don't know anybody. I'm just the brat kid in the hotel. And so for several mornings we would hang out, we'd run the beach before dawn. We just had a great time. And. And then his entourage would come down and take him away. And. So then you lost.

[Adam Curry]

You lost your train of thought, didn't you?

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

No, no, I was just trying to go with which direction to go whether I. I tell you who it is. So one night, my parents and I were getting ready to go out to dinner, and my parents went to, you know, restaurants constantly. And we. We in the lobby, we come up on him and his entourage, and he comes up and he says, oh, Mr. And Mrs. Smith, I have loved hanging out with your daughter. She's been the bright point of. Of in my world. You know, Mimi was. Has been so kind to me. Would you please come as my guest to my performance tonight?

[Adam Curry]

And here we go, the big reveal. Who was it?

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

It was Jim Morrison.

[Adam Curry]

Wow. Wait a minute, wait a minute. John, is that where you met Mimi?

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

No.

[Adam Curry]

Hey, Dvorak, you missed your cue. You missed your cue.

[John C. Dvorak (hospital segments)]

I know, I missed the queue. You guys are off the road. You've driven off the road. You're bouncing around in the desert.

[Adam Curry]

Now, ladies and gentlemen, he's back from the dead. He lives.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Hey, you blew my punchline, buddy.

[John C. Dvorak (hospital segments)]

Yes. I'm out of the hospital and should be doing the show on Sunday, and I couldn't help, but since Adam invited me. Hey, you could, you know, you could. You could, like, you know, maybe jump in the show here. You feel you. I kind of feel like it.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

And he steps on my punch.

[John C. Dvorak (hospital segments)]

So we have a group here. What?

[Adam Curry]

Hold on, hold on, hold on. Mimi's complaining that you blew her punchline. Let her get the punchline.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

I know the punchline.

[John C. Dvorak (hospital segments)]

That's why I did it.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Oh, the Bickerson are back. So I'm int. I'm. I'm actually given this opportunity.

[John C. Dvorak (hospital segments)]

You can't get her back on the road?

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

No. Okay, you tell it.

[John C. Dvorak (hospital segments)]

I'm not. I'm going to be silent and tell the.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Oh, no, you go ahead, John. You can tell them. You. You.

[John C. Dvorak (hospital segments)]

You do the punchline for I forgot to punch.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

Wow.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

So. Yeah, never mind. I'll tell you later.

[Adam Curry]

No, I want. Now. No, no, everyone's on pins and needles now. We need to know. So hold on. It was Jim Morrison, right?

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

And he was getting ready to play the. The big venue in Hawaii for one night. And he invites my parents to come to backstage to be able to see a show. And before he even gets it out, my mother goes, no, no, thank you. No. And we go to dinner.

[Adam Curry]

That's the punchline.

[John C. Dvorak (hospital segments)]

That is a good story.

[Adam Curry]

That is a great story. Hey. Hey, John, can I. You know, Mimi has been doing the show, been filling in for you, been doing fantastic. I have definitely concluded that without either one of us, no Agenda is not a show. I miss you. But Mimi's been pretty fun. I gotta be honest with you.

[John C. Dvorak (hospital segments)]

No, she's good. Except when she goes off driving off the road, because what she was doing there, if you remember, you're the one that triggered it. By the way, you. You basically said, mimi, give us a shaggy dog story on how you hate celebrities.

[Adam Curry]

I did not. I did not.

[John C. Dvorak (hospital segments)]

And that. And the end of the shaggy dog stories. No, I don't feel, you know, it's like the. The guy sitting at the table and say, hey, hey, Frank. Frank. Frank Sinatra. Say hi to me when you come by. Because my. That's gonna. This girl. And then Frank goes, you know, walking by the guy and at the table, and the guy on the. He's on the phone and looks up at Frank. He says, hey, hey, later, maybe. It's a kind of similar material. So, anyway, I'll be doing the show on. On Sunday.

[Adam Curry]

You sound. You sound the same. It's like nothing.

[Jim Morrison]

Did you.

[Adam Curry]

Did you just go to the Seychelles on vacation? You don't sound like you operated on.

[John C. Dvorak (hospital segments)]

Yeah, right.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yeah.

[John C. Dvorak (hospital segments)]

Have your chest cracked open sometimes. Day. See what you think.

[Adam Curry]

No, thank you.

[John C. Dvorak (hospital segments)]

So pass.

[Adam Curry]

I'll pass, if you don't mind.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Well, clearly John got a good night's sleep last night.

[John C. Dvorak (hospital segments)]

I did not.

[John C. Dvorak]

Why?

[John C. Dvorak (hospital segments)]

It is almost impossible to sleep. Because I like to sleep. I'm a side sleeper, just like Tucker.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

I know.

[John C. Dvorak (hospital segments)]

I'm looking for somebody to claw me and it hasn't happened.

[Adam Curry]

Callback. Nice.

[John C. Dvorak (hospital segments)]

And so. And so. I can't do that. I have to sleep on my back. And it's just. It's very teeny tedious. Tedious. It's not good.

[Adam Curry]

There is something in your voice that is different. It's. There's like a small extra spark of enthusiasm. Do you think that's possible?

[John C. Dvorak (hospital segments)]

I miss the audience.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The trolls miss you.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

I miss you doing it.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. Do you miss your wife at all? I mean, just as an aside, I

[John C. Dvorak (hospital segments)]

like the fact that she says it's hard to do this. Three hours of Yakety Yak and the

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

whole week of finding clips. Yeah, but I do better on ISOs than you do.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's got a. She's got nine isos.

[John C. Dvorak (hospital segments)]

Well, and also, by the way, I miss you, Adam.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, thank you, John.

[John C. Dvorak (hospital segments)]

So Everybody out there should note that.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, and I miss you too. I said that to you privately. I said, man, I miss you. And I said it to Tina. I said, you know, I never thought I'd say.

[John C. Dvorak (hospital segments)]

Because initially, I never thought I'd think that.

[Adam Curry]

No, no. This is interesting because, you know, like a week ago, Tina's like, can you call John? Like, what am I gonna say? We got nothing to say to each other. You've been around us when we're. When we're not on the show. I got nothing to say. And she's like, what? I said, no, you know, whatever. He's okay. And then, you know, I was like, brunetti said, oh, I talked to John Horowitz. Oh, I talked to John. Like, okay, now I got to talk to John. And. And I talk to you. And I was like, oh, I really miss this guy. It's, you know, 18 years, a long time.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Yeah. He didn't grouse for the first week, which really scared me.

[Adam Curry]

What, when you were married? The first week of your marriage?

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

No, the first week he was in the hospital, he barely groused. He'd be like. And I was like, where's John? I want John back. I want him to say something mean to me.

[Adam Curry]

There you go.

[Liz Landers]

I think.

[John C. Dvorak (hospital segments)]

Well, on that note, like I said, I'll be on Sunday, and I hope you guys. I'll leave you alone. I was actually gonna. Intending on jumping on the. Into the stream during the donations.

[Adam Curry]

Well, we're just about to get into the donation segment.

[John C. Dvorak (hospital segments)]

Yeah, I'm just good enough. And so I.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. Okay.

[John C. Dvorak (hospital segments)]

So excuse me.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yes.

[John C. Dvorak (hospital segments)]

And I'll be on my way.

[Adam Curry]

All right, ladies and gentlemen, there he is, John C. Dvorak. He put the C in cardiac arrest. Beautiful. All right. All right, buddy, I'll talk to you on Sunday. Gotcha. All right, I'm disconnecting you now because I don't trust you. All right, there we go. So let's thank some people, Mimi, who have been kind enough to. To support us. And first was mentioned that this is a value for value podcast. Whatever value you get out of the podcast, the whole idea is you put it right back into it. And you can do that with your time, your talent, your treasure, any amount, any type of talent or time. Lots of people help out doing meetups. People build websites, maintain servers void zero. Always making sure that we're up and running. And there's always the artwork, which has gotten easier for people to do, but still, there's real work involved typing. So we want to thank the artist for episode 1851. We titled that one Mork and Mimi. I couldn't resist. And the artwork was from and Baron Darren o'.

[Chrissy Gnome]

Neill.

[Adam Curry]

This was one that John would have liked. Typically, I would have said, like, ah, it's too busy. It looks like a cartoon. But because we had that whole lobster gate bit. Did you see the art? Did you see the art that I did not.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

I'm sorry.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, wow. Thanks. Darren's happy to hear that. It was. It was a dynamite piece. You know, it was lobsters, and the lobsters were going to war. And, you know, it was a very classy, classy, classy, classic piece for no Agenda. And Baron Darren o' Neill did a great job on that. And next week, we'll return to grousing about the art. John and I will be doing it together. But first we're going to thank our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1852. We thank everybody. $50 and above. You can send your support to the show, your value to noagendadonations.com we kick it off with an anonymous donation from Marietta, Georgia. $1,000. Boom. And here's the note that Anonymous sent John and Adam. And I'm going to add Mimi there. I just want to say thank you for the last 18 years. I'm 38 years old, middle age, and have been listening to you guys for my entire adult life. I've graduated college, started a career, married my wife of 15 years, got a second degree, have three wonderful children, and started a successful business. Business. I'm hoping one of those or two of those kids are named John and Adam because that is kind of the agreement.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Or Mimi or Mimi.

[Adam Curry]

John, Adam and Mimi. There you go. There's the kids. Hey, kids. There have been wars, economic turmoil, presidencies, the pandemic, and much more between now and then. A lot has happened between then and now. And I guess what I'm trying to say is that I'm grateful. I'm grateful that you guys have been a consistent source of reason, humor and calm. I imagine sometimes it's nice to look back on your body of work. Oh, it's such a body of work. Here's Whitesnake. And feel like it made an impact. That it was worth it. That was worth something. And I hope. Well, yes, a note like this makes it worth it. And I hope you two know that what you have done for the last 18 years was a worthy endeavor. Is this like a eulogy? Are we both dead now? Is that what's going on here? Not just for me, but I suspect for many others living life with you from a distance. John's recent heart surgery made me realize that one day the show will end. And that thought may made me take a stock in how much I've appreciated you over the last 18 years. I didn't want to wait another day to say a simple thank you. So thank you from Anonymous. That's a nice note. Thank you very much.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Yeah, that's actually lovely. So that means it's a night now, right?

[Adam Curry]

Yes, but of course I guess we'll be doing that on Sunday all nightings and damings.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Well do it next Thursday that. Because that gives John time to get back into it before you're swinging around that sword for so much.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, good point. We don't want them to. To pull something. Yeah, good point.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

So the next one is Don Tommaso D. Torrento.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

From Kettlebee, Ontario, Canada. $888.88. The give reason. John. John. A reason to live.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

From. From John. Don Tommaso di Toronto. No jingles, just JCD karma.

[Adam Curry]

You've got karma coming in with 388. Got those lucky 88s in there. Sir Chris and Dame Kristen from Carmel by the Sea, California. Lovely place. Is that Is Clint Eatwood's Eastwood still the mayor over there? Carmel? Wasn't he the mayor for Carmel?

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Maybe so. And you see a detached note.

[Adam Curry]

Here it is. Dear John, I rode the California Zephyr down from Truckee and naturally thought of you and hope you're getting along okay. Oh, these are all beautiful get well cards. Hope you're getting. Yeah. Here's wishing you love and luck from Dame Kristen and me for a speedy recovery. All the best to you and the entire no Agenda family. Cheers. That's beautiful.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

And Baron, sir psychopath from Charlotte, North Carolina. 3.33.34. Get well, John.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, very nice. Oh, when you play it once, people of course start to request it right away. William Jennison from Gresham in Oregon says, I love you guys. Just want some karma for John. Also first time donor. So a de douching would be cool.

[Guest or Expert Commentator]

You've been de douched.

[Adam Curry]

And he winds up with Adam. You're amazing. Amen. I love ants. All right, we'll play a little bit of the ant song even though we played lots of it on the last show. It is indeed a classic. I got ants.

[Tucker Carlson]

I got ants.

[Guest or Expert Commentator]

You've got cards much?

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Okay. Dennis Cadle of Tampa, Florida. 333.33 ITM gentleman into our fabulous Fill in Mimi thank you. This donation is a piggyback to one of John's recent tips of the day. Manuka honey manukagold.com we sell amazing good natural Manuka Honey based products including an anti inflammatory honey blend that tastes amazing and a line of healing skin care products to help with everything from dry skin to arthritis. We also offer Manuka Dog as a way to help your best friend the same way it helped Mimi's dog.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

ManukaGold.com is offering the listeners of Gitmonation a 20% discount with the code Bongino.

[John C. Dvorak]

Yay.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Thank you. Thank you for keeping the best podcast in the universe going strong. Get well John. We love Mimi but want to hear your voice again soon. Sincerely, Dennis Catle

[Adam Curry]

Very nice. Nigel Ewan I'm thinking Columbus, Ohio. Row of ducks 222 and 22 cents. Thanks for continuing the show and John's absence. This is the perfect time to ask Mimi where's our signed photo of you and John on our on your wedding day? We donated for this special promotion in 2018. Are still waiting to receive this keepsake photo.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

You got to talk to John about that. Oh, I don't know where he put them, but we'll get you something signed.

[Adam Curry]

Okay? Yeah, sure. It's all. It's all on Dvorak.org na it's safely stored. Don't worry.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Sam Rickman, Peck, Michigan $200.88 Adam, John and Mimi along with the rest of the back office. Thank you for all you do. John. I'm 35 years old, born with a congenital heart defect and have had 3 open heart surger by the time I was 14.

[Adam Curry]

Show off.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

I've that's that's time for a zipper. I have a horror story or 2F that one surgeon, but it's not as bad as everyone claims, especially with morphine. And you're in good hands. Anyway, I wish John the best of luck in his recovery and simply ask for some health karma for John and some relationship karma for myself. Love and light Sam Rickman.

[Guest or Expert Commentator]

You've got karma

[Adam Curry]

and and well, we're Linda Lupatin, the last associate executive producer for this episode from Castle Rock, Colorado and she wants jobs, karma and as always, she says for a competitive edge with a resume that gets results, go to Imagemakers Inc. Com Hiring managers often decide in seconds where their resume moves forward. Linda helps professionals and executives make their experience clearly shows leadership, results and impact. Remember that's Image Makers Inc. With a K and work with Linda. Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs Writer of winning resumes. P.S. great job, Mimi. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.

[Guest or Expert Commentator]

Let's vote for jobs.

[Adam Curry]

And that wraps up our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1852. Remember, these are real credits. Hollywood recognizes them. You can use them anywhere you want. You might even get into the memoriam dead segment if you're lucky. Well, unlucky, I guess. You can put them on IMDb.com that's clearly where they're getting all these names from. And you also get that credit. They're good forever. And if anyone ever grouses about these credits, we're happy to vouch for you. Go to NoaGendaDonations.com that's NoaGendaDonations dot com youm can set give us any amount, anything that's of value to you. Whatever you think the show is worth, every single penny is highly appreciated. We'll thank the rest of our $50 above donors in the second segment. Again, Noagendadonations do you can set up a recurring donation. Any amount, any frequency. Noagendadonation.com Congratulations to these executive and associate executives.

[John C. Dvorak]

Formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth.

[Adam Curry]

Order.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Shut up slave.

[Adam Curry]

Shut up slaves. Yeah. Oh, this was a nice story. So the dog shooter got kicked out. Chrissy Gnome.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Yeah. Yep.

[Adam Curry]

And did you see any of the confirmation hearing with this new guy, Mullen?

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

I did, but it was, he was, he's, he doesn't have much personality.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, did you see the tear jerk moment?

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

No.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, this is, I mean I saw this. I'm like, you're confirmed. Oh, wait a minute. I hate Trump. I can't confirm him. But wait, this, I'm confused.

[Chrissy Gnome]

So my son was a really world class athlete and January 17th of 2020, which mind you was an election year, he had a really serious brain injury and the President found out about it and he gave me a call immediately, didn't understand the severity of it, but he heard it in my voice and immediately he went to work. He called almost every day for two weeks checking on Jim. And then he says, I'm going to come see him. The center told us that the short term memory loss would. Something would trigger it. Some big event would eventually trigger where he'd start retaining stuff. Until then he was still having issues. And the President arrived. For the next 15 minutes he did nothing but love on my son. That that one incident jogged his memory. And from then on he started retaining things. And Jim's attitude went from, from this, you know, we're going to get through it to this. I'm going to get through it. When we got released a little bit, the President said, come to Mar a Lago and see me. We go down there and the home station, it was amazing. And when we're leaving, dang it, I hate getting emotional. See, if I talk about my kids, I get emotional. Other than that, you can't make me cry. Anyways, he grabbed my son and he said, he said, do you know why

[Adam Curry]

I love your dad?

[Chrissy Gnome]

Do you know why I love your dad? Chrissy tells the story better than I do. And he goes, no, sir. He goes, because he loves you. Because of you. Because of you, man.

[Adam Curry]

That's, that's.

[Chrissy Gnome]

He didn't do it for any other reason. I mean, here's the President of the United States.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

States.

[Chrissy Gnome]

And he did it just because he cared.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, I believe that story. Yeah, I totally believe that.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Yeah. Oh yeah. I think more people should get choked up when they speak.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, I'll try and do it on Sunday. It may not be easy. I'm going to try and get choked up and try and be all emotional about it because I'm sure John will hate it.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Oh yeah, I'm sure he would.

[Adam Curry]

He said he missed me. He. Did you hear him? You heard him? He said he missed me.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

I heard it. You got it on tape, right?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

Right next to, Right next to.

[John C. Dvorak (hospital segments)]

I can't stand one more fucking jello cup.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, right next to that one record. It's all recorded. All right, you're out in California. Let's talk, let's talk fraud. But I mean, you're not in California on the west coast. You're in the fraud on the fraud coast.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Well, do we want to talk about Chavez first getting canceled?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, sure, whatever. That's fine. Okay. I have no idea what's going on. Chavez getting canceled. Here we go.

[Guest or Expert Commentator]

Troubling DM details of a New York Times investigation into sexual assault allegations against farm labor icon and Arizona native Cesar Chavez. Two women have now come forward to accuse Chavez of rape and several others say he sexually abused them. Perhaps most shocking is the account from Dolores Huerta, the now 95 year old co founder of the UFW. And now tonight, several groups and cities are canceling events in Chavez. Chavez's name. Brian Webb is live to continue our coverage tonight.

[Chrissy Gnome]

Brian.

[Adam Curry]

Hi, Christina. The Cesar Chavez name is all over the Valley, from schools to dog parks and this plaza in downtown Phoenix right by City Hall. Not to mention several events on cesar Chavez Day, March 31. But that is quickly changing after interviews of more than 60 aides and relatives. Union records, pictures, emails and recordings. Pictures of Cesar Chavez are already off the wall. At El Porto restaurant in South Phoenix. The owner knew, worked and revered Chavez. Mary Rose Wilcox. Very humble, very passionate about making sure that social justice got carried out for all people. Wilcox served on the Phoenix City Council and was a supervisor in Maricopa County. But before that, she was an immigration activist and first met Chavez in 1971, helping organize unions for farm workers. She remembers him as humble and kind. I'm just heartbroken about him, you know,

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

I'm really torn by it because I

[Adam Curry]

really, you know, revered Chavez and now I look at it and I'm just sick about it.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

You know, I found out last night

[Adam Curry]

and my husband and I both had a terrible night. And this morning we woke up and said, we have to make a statement. And, you know, you're really torn because there's two Chavez's. There's the one Chavez, who did all these good things and passed all this legislation and was a passionate man who wanted farm workers rights. And now you find out there was another Chavez we didn't know. Well, is this the old Hugo Chavez? The old.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Yeah, Cesar, but how old are these women? In their 80s and 90s.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, okay. They don't sound like it. They don't sound that old.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Well, I mean, they. A little late to speak. Speak up. So. So they're tearing down history. This is absolutely tearing down history. You know, I met Cesar in.

[Chrissy Gnome]

Here we go.

[Adam Curry]

Here we go.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Of course I did. We are going into the story.

[Adam Curry]

Is this gonna be one where your mom said, we're not going to Cuba? Is that, Is that how this ends?

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

No, no. Cesar was from Arizona. No, he was. Okay. I mean, I, it was. My boyfriend at the time's father worked for the co op stores and he was big on the civil rights movement. And Cesar, he was helping Cesar. So this is a prime example of tearing down history for a reason.

[Adam Curry]

Yes.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

So I start looking around to try to figure out why, and it becomes very obvious when you listen to some of his old speeches because, oh yeah,

[Adam Curry]

he hated illegal immigration.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

So I have a 1972 interview and a 1974 interview.

[Adam Curry]

All right, We've gotten very few.

[K]

And then all of a sudden yesterday morning, they brought in 220 wetbacks. These are the illegals from Mexico. Now, there's no way to defend against that kind of strike breaking. And so therefore the only way to win strikes is by then taking our fight to the citizens, to the people in the city especially, and have them help Us boycott those products that we're striking, and we need that, and that that's the only way we've been able to get contracts. And I venture to say that without that, we couldn't possibly organize unions.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

So what would happen was they would. At the time, the grapes were a big thing. Boycott grapes. But the workers had stopped working in an attempt to force the owners and everybody in the area to give them decent wages.

[British Empire/City of London Analyst]

So.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

So the next interview actually tells really what happened. It's a great interview.

[John C. Dvorak]

This question of the illegals I find very interesting. Would you say that it's at this particular moment as important as any of the other problems facing the union?

[K]

Oh, yes. In the last three weeks, it's become. In the last two weeks, it has become an emergency for us. There's an awful lot of illegals coming in by the thousands. Our people are not only in some of the crews where there is now strike breaking, some of Those crews are 100% illegal outright, openly, with no attempt to disguise it. And so it's so bad now that we estimate 60 to 70% of the farm workers in California, the resident worker, the citizen, is out of a job because of the wetbacks. They're coming in by the farm. Thousands. Just unbelievable. See, they're coming in with the consent of the Immigration Service, which is part of the Department of Justice. How else could they come? We, for instance, know that if you go to Coachella, you go around the El Paso area. The secondary immigration checkpoints have been unmanned now for, oh, at least three, four weeks. They're closed. They're at night, they're dark. There aren't any patrolmen there. It's a gimmick. We think that it's a prelude at the beginning to a big drive on the part of the administration and the Mexican government to bring the bracero program again. It's a vicious attack on the local worker. And it's just one of those things that every business thinks they can get away with it. And our job is to inform the whole country what's happening together with a boycott and solve it that way.

[Adam Curry]

Who was president then?

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

It was Nixon and then Jerry. Gerald Ford. So the brass. I can't say the word. The bracero program was started after World War II to bring contract workers up from Mexico, and then they could stay for a visa. Then they had to go back.

[Adam Curry]

And that happened all the time.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Yeah, but in this case, he was for the farm workers who were here legally. Here legally.

[British Empire/City of London Analyst]

Right, right.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

So I think this is an attempt to completely erase his Memory. It's completely erase how he began a labor movement. But when I start looking around, I think that Martin Luther King Jr. Should be a little afraid. Can you play that clip?

[Adam Curry]

I have a dream. That my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character. I have a dream. Today, Martin Luther King, Jr. Remains one of the most revered figures of the 20th century. A minister, a Nobel Peace Prize laureate, and the voice of the civil rights movement, whose I have a Dream speech continues to echo through history. Yet behind the pulpit and marches lay a private life now shadowed by controversy. Recently unearthed FBI files and reports from the National Archives have resurfaced shocking allegations of King's serial infidelity, claiming that he had sexual encounters with up to 40 women and was present during acts of abuse by others. Yeah, why do you think that? Who. Who do you think is behind this? Why. Why are they doing this? Hello? No, I lost you. Mimi, I. I see you're connected. Hello? Hello? Hello? Hello? Mimi? Oh, there you are. You back? No, no, no. You've muted yourself now. What happened? That was odd. Hello, I. You're still connected. Yeah. You're mute now. You've muted yourself. So click on the green microphone and unmute yourself. Hello? Podcaster down. Podcaster down. You've got to click unmute on the green button. Yeah. Are you okay Now I'm concerned because you've. I know you can hear me. So you muted yourself, but what? Oh. Oh, no, she's left. All right, we'll set a time marker here and we'll see what happens. There we go. Go. Connecting. Ah, you're still muted. Click the green microphone button or the white microphone button.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

There I am. Am I back on?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. What happened?

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Solar flares.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, okay. Solar flare. So my question was, why do you think this is happening right. Right now?

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

I think it's happening because of the whole ice thing. They can't have a hero who's. Who's talking about wetbacks and illegal immigrants. I think that's part of it. And I think that it's just heavy handed. It's like, are we trying to destroy the. The farm workers union? Are we trying to. I think it's. It's a. It's a backlash against him. Um, you know, but it's like how. Let's tear down history. Let's rewrite history, because I'm seeing history being rewritten every which way.

[Adam Curry]

Well, hold on. But this is true history, is it not?

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

What Part the women who are 80 years old suddenly remembering that. That they were.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, that's. That's probably true. The Martin Luther King stuff is probably true. I mean, there's lots of evidence of that.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Yeah. And let's wait till people are doing dead and they can't defend themselves.

[Adam Curry]

Well, yeah, that's what you do.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

You know, I find it to be a little. Yeah, I know. It's. It's just. I think it's just, it's more. I think it's. It's falsely. Like we've had a lot of things happen up here where entire narratives have been changed in history. And I think that, you know, rearranging, re. Rewriting history is not a good thing, but that, you know, it plays into. It plays. Plays into, you know, all the fraud.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, well, I'll just say that, you know, I like it when history is. When a different history emerges, such as we didn't land on the moon. I like it when that emerges. I like it when those things happen. Now, this doesn't bother me that much because to me, it's not quite the same as taking down statues of Washington and Jefferson or, you know, it's. That's a little different.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Do you. At the street names are getting changed. They took a. They're taking away his day. That they just. Obama was the one who gave us Cesar Chavez day on, on March 31st.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, there you go. That they're real.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Naming schools and dog parks. I mean, it's, it is completely erasing him from history. It's not adding a footnote.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, okay. All right. No, I, I disagree. Disagree with that. I don't think that's necessary. That's interesting. I've not picked up on this happening at all.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

You know, there are tons and tons of fraud that's going on is unbelievable to me.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. Tina's been keeping me up to speed on that a little bit.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

So there was a petition fraud in California. It's abc.

[Guest or Expert Commentator]

All right. A video making its rounds on social media appears to show people getting paid $5 to sign a ballot initiative. And it has people really criticizing the signature. Signature gathering process. Take a look at this video. This was posted on X by J.J. smith, who tells us that he saw this happen in San Francisco. He says that he noticed a line of people waiting to sign what appears to be ballot initiatives at a table. One of the people in line tells him that you can receive $5 if you sign the petition. Now, in the video, a woman behind the table appears to tell people what name and address to sign on that petition. Smith says the entire encounter made him question the legality of the process.

[Adam Curry]

They was coaching them to what name they signed, what address and what city. And right there that rang the bell in my head is like they turned on the light in my head like that's not legal. Why not sign your own name?

[Guest or Expert Commentator]

Building a Better California is a policy organization who says this was one of their campaigns documents that was being signed. A spokesperson with the organization says they are outraged and do not tolerate this type of fraudulent activity in the signature gathering process.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, this. Yeah, this is one part of it. What's really the Medicare fraud is what's most unbelievable. And unfortunately they're throwing people in jail who are just pawns in the whole game.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Well, let's go back.

[Adam Curry]

Okay.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

The billionaires tax in California. California. They have to come up with 8,800 thousand valid signatures by June.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, I see what's happening.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

The initiative is sponsored by the. The whole initiative is sponsored by the SEIUHW which is a California based union of over 100,000 healthcare workers.

[Adam Curry]

Uhhuh.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

The group's leadership has been usually accuses corporations of Medicare for fraud. But they've also had a lot of internal allegations of corruption, including in 2023 when the SEIU Vice President was convicted in federal court of 14 counts which included embezzlement of union funds, tax violations, which. Which leads us right into. Nick Shirley just dropped a new video.

[Chrissy Gnome]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, you said dropped. Okay, he dropped. Yes, he dropped a new. You want to do this billionaires tax first or you know, I'm going to

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

leave that for John because he'll love to go into that more because this is not going to go away.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, so which. Nick Shirley?

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Nick Shirley, new on California fraud.

[John C. Dvorak (hospital segments)]

California may have the largest amount of fraud in the country. As California is the state with the highest taxes and collects more money than any other state in America. It is filled with fraud. California's version of Medicaid called Medi Cal has more than doubled since since 2022 from $108 billion to a proposed 222 billion in 2026. Their population however, has not grown exponentially. However, their spending has. There has been a thousand percent increase in hospice care in the Los Angeles County. In fact, one out of every ten dollars of home health care in America is spent in Los Angeles. On top of that, their government government funded daycare programs are filled with violations. While they continue to give money to these fraudsters. It is estimated that the fraud in California could be in the hundreds of billions of dollars.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. Yay.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Good reason to tax billionaires. So Nick went to an old motel that has been converted into office spaces. There were 80 some hospices in this one place. Some were empty. You know, just like the whole thing with child care administration Minnesota. Lots of expensive cars in the parking lot. So then later in his video, he does outline how this works. And that's the Nick Shirley outlines the

[John C. Dvorak (hospital segments)]

way these hospices are able to enroll these people and collect money from Medicare. And medi cal here inside of California is they collect the Medicare numbers from individuals and then sign them up for hospice without them even knowing. I actually went and spoke with with a professional inside of the medical industry to get her opinion on how this all works. We're seeing all these hospices pop up here. Why is hospice and home health care such a booming business right now?

[Guest or Expert Commentator]

I think it's become a trend of fraud. Honestly has. Like I, I, I heard about this about five years ago during COVID that people were building hospices and selling them. It was like a business. These people became made. So it's an easy, I think easy way to build Medicare with their people's beneficiary numbers that people can easily steal and even purchase and buy. They buy numbers from people and tell them, give me your Medicare beneficiary number and I will give you something in return.

[John C. Dvorak (hospital segments)]

And what does that mean? Give you my beneficiary?

[Guest or Expert Commentator]

So there's an ID that you have. Medicare gives you. Medicare is for anybody 65 and over. So they'll give you a Medicare ID number. And that number is what's used to bill Medicare.

[John C. Dvorak (hospital segments)]

So essentially, if they can get a number from, from somebody, it's almost like getting a credit card number. And then from there they can continue to bill and bill and bill and get that Medicare money.

[Guest or Expert Commentator]

Exactly. It's actually more beneficial than finding a credit card these days. Anybody can get a hospice license. Actually. You don't need to be a physician, you don't need to be a doctor. You can apply and get a hospice license in the state of California. They bill, they take the Medicare numbers, they bill Medicare, the Medicare sends them a check right away. It's an easy process.

[Adam Curry]

And what kind of people are doing this in California? Regular old California.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

I, well, so far it's been identified as being Armenia, the Armenian mob, and some other mobs. But, but what's really interesting about all this, so you know, Nick Shirley is saying, oh, I just discovered this, except California, and I actually sent it to you for the show notes. California's own fraud investigation department, their auditing department found that the state's licensure and oversight of hospice agents agencies in 2019 that Los Angeles county hasn't experienced a 1500% increase in its number of hospice agencies since 2010. It had more than six and a half times the nationwide average of hospice agencies relative to its aged population. In 2019. They found indicators of large scale fraud that likely include fraudulent billing to Medicare and Medi California, including the apparent use of stolen identities of medical personnel to obtain licenses. So they, they knew that in 2019. A big report was done in 2020. But meanwhile we have Newsom who said 10 months ago, part one, we're Doge but better.

[Adam Curry]

And we've been Doge but but better for literally six years. Doge, but better. Yes, Doge, but Doge, but better.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

And then he asked more word salad.

[Adam Curry]

You know, you can go back there's amazing that we still have the tapes of our announcements around ODI and all of these reforms and efficiencies that we've been advancing for years and years and years. It's just again, difficult to sort of break out of that, you know, the attention challenge. Okay, so you've been watching Nick Shirley for a while, I believe.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

For two years at least. Okay, yeah.

[Adam Curry]

So I was first introduced to him with the Minnesota Leering center videos.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Yep, yep.

[Adam Curry]

And he had this guy next to him, Bob. You know, Bob is never introduced to us. Bob's got all the paperwork.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

I think it was Dave.

[Adam Curry]

Dave. I think it was Dave, Bob, Dave, Pete, same thing. He's got all the information. Is this the same? Because I, I suspect expect that someone saw what Nick Shirley was doing and went, this is a great way to show this fraud because it never works when you get Pam Bondi standing up there in front of the press and you know, it doesn't work. But this is a stealth way of getting people outraged. Does he have another Dave, Bob or Pete with him when he's out in California?

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

He has, he. During the video he has a couple of different people. One of them, I think is just emotional support. He's got his. I mean, some of the situations he's getting himself into looks really scary to me. But this is all common knowledge. I mean, this is like there is a, there is a government report from 2019 that was published in 2020 that says, oh yeah, this is a huge problem. There are other podcasters, video podcasters, whatever you call them.

[Adam Curry]

Youtubers.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Youtubers, youtubers who've been putting up information all along but couldn't get any traction because, you know, it's. He's got the best platform.

[Adam Curry]

Why. But why, why, why did this. I'm telling you that this. There's someone on the inside working with him, giving him stuff, helping him, showing him juicing something.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Well, well, actually, somebody asked. I wonder. I think it's probably Trump. I have a.

[Adam Curry]

Well, not you be Trump personally or just the administration.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Trump explains the money.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, okay, here we go. That's what I'm talking about. You said during your state of the year that this type of fraud, the corruption, is the type of thing that

[John C. Dvorak (hospital segments)]

can shred the fabric of the nation.

[Adam Curry]

Why do you suppose that the leaders in recent memory haven't looked at the systemic amount of fraud?

[John C. Dvorak]

And because they're crooked. They make money, they gain power, they use it for power. Like with the Somalians. They vote in a block 100%. They make a deal with the Somalians. They all vote because they're on a gravy train. It's. It's coming. It's. It's money first, power second. A lot of people say power first. Now it's money first.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah. I'm telling you, this, this, this Nick Shirley pop. Has Trump written all over it.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Yes, absolutely, it does. And I think it's great. He's got the audience, he's got the eyes, and he's such an assuming little.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, he's so sweet. He's such a sweet boy. Yes.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Having a birthday next month. I know he's finally going to be older.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, wow. Oh, what's he gonna be, 12?

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Yeah, I think 24.

[Adam Curry]

I think it's a dynamite. This is the future. It's a dynamite way to expose fraud through a YouTuber who's out there with the, with the one camera. You know, actually I think he has two. I've seen him with two shots, sometimes two. Yeah, yeah, it's great. It's a great way to do it. And man, it is rampant. And yes, it's hundreds of billions of dollars. Maybe, maybe a trillion a year. Who knows?

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Which explains why the billionaires tax is such a big deal to California, which, if you want, you can certainly play that billionaire tax explanation because it's pretty much how much we're losing in Medicare

[Liz Landers]

fraud taxes for health care. Or would it backfire? That's the debate behind a proposed wealth tax that could be on the California bank ballot this November. Supporters have to collect about 875,000 signatures by mid April just to get it on the ballot. But it's already caused a ton of grief. Among big names in tech and finance. And they're not the only ones. Even Governor Gavin Newsom has come out against it, saying it would hurt the state's finances in the long run.

[John C. Dvorak]

It's a badly drafted effort. It's already had an outsized impact on this state.

[Liz Landers]

To get a full understanding, let's back up to step one. How would the tax actually work? Could it work? Well, it's a one time tax of 5% of wealth. Individuals or couples worth more than $1 billion as of the end of this year would have to pay it. That's about 200 people in the entire state. If you're a billionaire and you live here, you'd be subject to the proposed tax. It covers stocks, cash, businesses, just about everything. What it doesn't cover is real estate. And you could exempt up to $5 million of personal property like art or a private jet. 90% of the tax would help cover federal cuts to health care. The other 10% would help fund education and food assistance. Unsurprisingly, a lot of people in the tech industry do not like this one bit. One of their biggest claims is that it would cause the wealthy to move to Nevada or Texas or Florida. Here's the problem. If that happens, According to state data, more than 40% of California's income tax comes from the top 1% of income earners. So if lots of the state's rich residents did leave, California's bank account would get smaller. Would they actually leave? It's hard to say. There's some research that indicates that rich people actually rarely move in response to new taxes. And that's because they tend to. Tend to depend pretty heavily on social and professional ties to, say, Silicon Valley. But also, we've never had a wealth tax like this before. Most of the European countries that have tried it eventually got rid of it.

[Adam Curry]

I got to show you how to use Adobe to remove that horrible music.

[John C. Dvorak (hospital segments)]

I know.

[Adam Curry]

Sorry. No, no, it's okay. It's just like, oh, interesting. I think they would move. I think that I do too. I mean, they're already.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Oddly enough, we only need this tax because of so much fraud. The money's just flowing out.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. Next time someone complains about the 3.8 billion we give to Israel that they spend on our war stuff, remind them of this.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Yeah. In every state. Every state this exists. That's the problem. Or every blue state.

[Adam Curry]

What is the. What is the total Medicare? I mean, how, how. What is the federal government pay annually in. Let me see, let me add. Let me ask the Robot, what is the annual federal expenditure? I'm going to use some big words. Expenditure for health care. From the. Okay. For health care. Boom. All right, let's see. All right, robot. I put it in thinking mode, so it'll take a second. I think real hard.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

I like. Who's pushing this tax the most is Bernie Sanders. Oh, my God, he's everywhere.

[Adam Curry]

Well, of course. But here it is. Oh, man. The most recent completed fiscal year 2025, the US federal government spent approximately how much do you think?

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Trillions.

[Adam Curry]

$2.03 trillion. That's more than a quarter of the total total budget. Now, that can't all be fraud.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

No, but if a. If a hefty portion of it is,

[Adam Curry]

yeah, we can buy some more bombs for Iran. It's great.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

There you go.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, let's bomb them. Hey, everybody. I'm gonna show my school by donating to no Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Oh, yeah, that'd be fabulous.

[Adam Curry]

That's right. We thanked our executive and associate executive producers earlier. Now we are going to thank everybody who supported the show. $50 or above. And I think we also have some notes to read. So let me get the spreadsheet. And away we go. Ashley Osgen. I think it is OS Gen. Sounds right. From Flower Mound, Texas. 18833. With the help John. Give John a reason to live Eights in there. Christy Jensen. 153.96. Oh, it's 146.19. Good job, Mimi. 8,008 plus 6,611 for the ladies. Yes. Dangling balls and double dicks, in case you forgot.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

And.

[Adam Curry]

And the crappy PayPal fees. ITM. Christy. Christy. All right, Christy. Ladies, taking over with your donation amounts. Love that. Dame Mary Martin Moon and Sir Ju Claw. And they sent in a get well card for John with 150. John, we're wishing with speedy and easy recovery from South Louisiana. Plus this donation is a birthday call out for my smoking hot hubby. He celebrated on March 14th. Dame Mary Moon and Sir Juclaw. I wonder what the Sir Juclaw is all about.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

I don't know.

[Adam Curry]

What is a Jew Claw? I don't know. Sir led. Sir led. 130 and 3 cents. That's 1, 2, 123, 45 plus fees. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. Plus fees. Got it. Nathan Cochran from Mercy Me. Go check out their movie. I can only imagine two now in theaters, I think, or streaming soon. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. He's a knight. Sir Schwartz from Denmark. Langa, I think. Langa. Well done. Mimi. Stepping up and handling John at the same time. Yes, Health karma for John. We'll do at the end and get up onto the pod machine. That is Sir Schwartz of the Woke. Bashing culprits. Baron of Jutland, GMO Little Mermaid. All right. Sir Radical from Muskegon, Michigan. $100. Hoping for a speedy recovery. John. Sir Radical, Black Knight of the Holy Orbs. Kyle Winfield, Cedar Park, Texas. Has been listening for 10 plus years. Wouldn't be who I am without the show. John, please get well soon. Then we have Baronettis D. Denise. And she sent in a note with nice handwriting. John, prayer. $100 prayers for you and your family during this tough time. Get well. Tough time. He's had it easy. You heard him. Get well soon.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

I had the tough time.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, with me. Get well soon. We love you and miss you. Although Mimi is doing great. Adam, good job at holding down the fort. Blessings, Baronet. As Denise, Queen of the Cobalt programmers.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Wow.

[Adam Curry]

And then old guy in Minnesotz sends $100. And he has a note here as well. Also nice handwriting, but slanted to the left. John, get better. I miss you. You are lucky. Sounds like you have a wonderful family. Old. Old guy in Minnesota. Nuts.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

That's what it says. Yes.

[Adam Curry]

Todd in Miami Springs, Florida. These are the 8888 still coming in. Beautiful. John. Hell of a way to get some r&r. Itm Luis Ruiz in Portage, Indiana. 8888. Adam and Mimi. Can I get a de douching, please? Is my first.

[Guest or Expert Commentator]

You've been de douched.

[Adam Curry]

Wishing JCD a speedy recovery. I woke up three times besides.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Three times to threes.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, I woke up to threes. Beside bedside probably. I think so. And decided to drink 33am yes, I'll keep it short. Yes. Thank you, sir. Shelf Wood in Imoden in the Netherlands. Birthday donation. Wish myself a belated happy birthday. Sunday the 15th. Forgot to donate in time due to working night show shifts. Get well soon. John and Mike valak in Chattanooga, Tennessee with the 8888s. James Varga, East Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania. Waiting to get off John's block list. Yeah, good luck with that.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Me too.

[Adam Curry]

DeSoto drone in South Haven, Missouri. 8888. Randy Darrow, Burke, Virginia. I don't always donate.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

No, no. South Haven, Mississippi.

[Adam Curry]

Mississippi. Mississippi.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Mississippi, Mississippi, Mississippi.

[Adam Curry]

Yes. I always get confused. Randy Darrow, Burke, Virginia. I don't always donate, but when I do, I. No agenda. With John staying cranking my friend Damari and Sir Mark of the Greenwoods in Indiana. John, glad you went in for the old change. Was able to get the valve job to restart the clocks. Four more years. Dame Maria, Sir Mark of the Greenwood. Gwen Sobieski in Kettering, Ohio. These are all 88s B dubs, Springfield, Oregon when you read this, it will most likely be in the middle of an interview with an IT help desk job. I want some jobs. Karma and health Karma for Jason. Yes, we'll put that all at the end. 73km7bph.b dubs Kurt Kiefer, Austin, Texas. Roderick Brown, Mermaid in Prince Edward Island, Canada. Daniel Smith, Dayton, Ohio. John, I don't want to lose Mimi, as I'm sure you don't either. But please come back, Mimi. Please, please, please come do a show once in a while. You're a natural. Have great life stories. We all enjoy about Jim Morrison. A Brush With Greatness. Baroness Monica Dr. Valley, Alberta, Canada welcome back Sunday, John. Thanks for Mimi. Great job. Baroness Monica Vicountess. Dame Knight. Dame Knight, who is it? Vicontest, Dame Knight. Love you, Mimi. 8888 PJ, New York, NY. 8888. Beth Elliott, Corryton, TN. And she also sent in a note. Get well, nice big get well card. Oh, this is 8080, actually. There you go. Get well soon, John. Big heart. Looking forward to learn to hearing your voice soon. From Beth. Okay, there we go. Kevin McLaughlin. There he is with the 8008 with the boob donation. He is the Archduke of Luna and lover of America. And boobs. He says God bless America and the no Agenda family. F cancer karma for those who need it, please. So we got health karma, job karma and F cancer karma all coming up. Sarah Gardner, Wilmington, North Carolina. Also with the boobs, Sir Kevin Dills from Huntersville, North Carolina, Carolina. Thank you for your courage, Mimi. Nice boobs. There we go. 808.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Well, thank you.

[Adam Curry]

Well, that's. Yes, the donation. Ray Fleischman, Davenport, Florida. Anonymous. Oh, source Code days. Yes, from the Source Code days. There you go. Bruce Rogers, Alton, Illinois. Also with a lot of boobs today. James Little, Alameda, California. Thank you, Mimi. I think this is because of you, Mimi. We got all these boob donations. This is good. Sir Kurt, Austin, Texas. Love you, Mimi. You've been absolutely spooktacular. Wishing your asset a speedy recovery. Handle him with care. Okay, that's enough. Love y'. All. Sir Kurt Craig Walton, Austin, Texas. That's Baron Craig. Greg. I think it's Greg Walton. Not Craig, there's something got misspelled here. It's Greg Walton, I think. Okay, I feel bad now.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

How about just see Walton? How about that?

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, but I know him, and I feel bad now. Now I'm confused. Les Starkowski, Kingman, Arizona. Oh, boobs. Circadia, Peoria, Arizona. What a treat to hear Mimi these last few weeks. I'm impressed with her. Loved her stories about early life in Iran. I can't tell you, Mrs. Buzz Kill, as you are. Definitely not a buzzkill. Circadia. Donald Rolfe in Parkston, South Dakota. Still all boobs, sir. Skip Logic, Spring Hill, Tennessee. I would listen to Mimi read names from the phone book. Right.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

I'll call him. I'll call him later.

[Adam Curry]

Allison Stang in Champlain, Minnesota. Boob donation came for Adam, stayed for John, donated for Mimi. Hashtag, too many eggs. All right. And our final boob donation from Carol Molinari in Burl Verde, Texas. Then we go to the 69.96 inverted. There's Dame Becky from Arlington, Washington. Small boobs From Sir Kevin O' Brien in Chicago, Illinois. 6006. Sir Glenn, Raleigh, North Carolina. 5888. Get well soon, John. Andrew Garland, Muncie, Indiana. 5623. 55. 55. From Edward Chidgee in Taunton, that is in the UK. Get well, John. A heart attack after appearing in the Epstein files. Coincidence? I think not. Edward Chidgi gave me a pronunciation guide. Thank you, Sir. Bruff, Lancaster, N.H. jobs. Karma for a struggling charter school teacher. Please and thank you. Yes, coming at the end. Double nickels on the dime from Dean Roker. Sarah Steinlein in Brentwood, Tennessee. Fine wine. Steinlein got $55.10. Double nickels on the dime. 55. From Adrian Christensen in Lincoln, Nebraska. Kent O' Rourke from Frostburg, Maryland. 5272. Bob Newell, Penfield, Pennsylvania. 52.50. Sir Andy in Niceville, Florida. Get well, John. 5150. These are the 50. Chris Cowan from Austin, Texas. Scott Lavender, Montgomery, Texas. Michael Sikora in Lake Elmo, Minnesota. Simon James London, that is, in Hackney, in case you were wondering. Andrew Gusek, Greensboro, North Carolina. Ray Acedo in Argyle, Texas. Terrence Boyer in Tuscola, Illinois. Julie Gilbert in Brighton. That's Ontario. Scandinavian dollars. All the best to John, Courtney, Thomas and Ian. And Samuel Burke from Lubbock, Texas. This donation switcheroo to Theo kotick for his 34th birthday, March 21st. Please wish him happy birthday. From Courtney, Thomas, Ian and Samuel Bur. Love you, bro. Alan Bean from Beaverton, Oregon. Sir Alan Bean, Pat from Rochester. Also a get well card from Pat. I think that's the last one. Get well soon. Glad you're doing better. Look forward to getting you back on the show. However, Mimi is doing a great job and everybody agrees. Leanne Shipley, Covington, WA 50. Jason Mara, Vancouver, WA. And that's the last one as we wind up our $50 donors for episode 1852. Thank you all so much. It's been just lovely to see all this support and all the get well cards. They will all be piled onto John's bed if not already done. So I think. Okay, so we've got some f. Karma, Jobs, karma, regular karma. Here we go. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Let's vote for jobs.

[Guest or Expert Commentator]

You've got karma.

[Adam Curry]

There it is. Thank you all for supporting the no Agenda show. Go to no agenda donations dot com. That is the best way to support us and we, we appreciate everything. Any amount that you support us with it is so much appreciated. No agenda donations.com you can give us through multiple means including bitcoin, lightning, the stable coin. I think there's USDC is available and PayPal. All up to you and it is all appreciated. No agenda donations.com. And we do have a list today. Short one. Mom, dad and Jacqueline say happy Birthday to Ivan David Myers celebrated on the 11th. Sir Self Shelfwood celebrate on the 5th. And as you just heard, Courtney Thomas, Ian and Samuel Burke wish Theo Kotick a happy birthday. He turns 34 on March 21st. Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. And we do have see we have a night which will be taken care of on Thursday, a layaway night. That is Stephen Newman and he says hello Peerage committee. With my 8888 donation last week and an extra 1 time 50 last year, I have achieved knighthood with a recurring donation of $4 per week since late October of 2021. Slow and steady may not win the race, but it gets you there in the end. I would like my night name to be Sir Vagabond of the Middle Midwest at the round table. I would like to request fava beans and a nice chianti. And we will order that for the big knighting ceremony which you just determined will be coming up on on Thursday. And thank you all so much for supporting us here at the no Agenda Show. Yeah, we got some meetups. They're always taking place all over the world and today there is indeed one coming up at 5 o' clock Pacific time because it will be in Idaho. It is the nisb. Get Jock Joe. It's the Get John back into the house House meetup. And that'll be at trail ends brewery and brick oven Pizza, Coeur d', Alene, Idaho. Sir Scott the Jew, he always sends in fun, fun little meet up reports. We love them. None of them today, actually. Also today, the fifth anniversary. Charlotte's 33rd Thursday monthly meetup. That'll be at 7 o' clock at Ed's Tavern in Charlotte, North Carolina. Saturday, the NAHA pop up. And that is going to be in Okinawa, Japan, at the Naha Bus terminal. I'm sure it's nice. I'm sure. Actually, I'm sure it is nice.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Sir Hank Itami is hosting that and we are expecting a meetup report from the Naha bus terminal in Okinawa, Japan. I told you, we're all over the world. Los Angeles on Wilshire Boulevard. This time, HMS Bounty. That is the flight of the no agenda. And number 73, Leo Bravo hosting that on Saturday. And springtime is here. Meet up will be at Puckett's Restaurant in Franklin, Tennessee. It's right by Nashville. It's really nice. Franklin's where all the celebrities live. That'll be on Saturday at 6 o'. Clock. Make sure you catch that one. Yes. Did you say something?

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, I thought you said something.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

No, I'm hearing more. There's more solar flares. We're hearing more Bings. It's fine.

[Adam Curry]

Is this. Are you joshing me or. They're real solar flares. Interesting.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

I'm far enough north that sometimes we get them and it screws up our Internet and our cell phones.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, interesting. I'm glad this is the last time we're doing this.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Annoying. Hey, finally on Sunday, we have the no ID pop up meetup. 4:32 Pacific. Don't be late, don't be early at the Alibi Room. And that is in Vancouver. That's British Columbia in Canada. So make sure you catch that. More coming up this month on the 20 28th. Coleyville, Texas, Fort Wayne, Indiana. Beechwood, Victoria, Australia, and Fukuok, Fukuoka, Kyushu. Another Japanese meetup. Hello, Japan. More meetup reports requested in April. On the 2nd, Raleigh, NC. Osaka, Japan is on fire. This is great. That's on the 4th, the 11th. Eagle, Idaho, Albany, California. John might attend Lafayette, Louisiana and Frederick, Vicksburg, Texas. I will definitely be there. Please come. If you're in Austin or San Antonio or wherever you're from, it's always a hoot. And that's always at 3:33pm at the Full Moon Bed Bar Breakfast. And that's Jenny J6 or Jenny's Place. You can't miss it. The 25th of April, Scheifeninge in the Netherlands. The 8th will be Buda, Texas. That's May and Leiden in the Netherlands, and Eagle, Idaho, on the 9th. Those are just a few of the meetings that are scheduled. You can find them all at no. Agendameetups. Com. Man, if you go to one of these, I guarantee you will come back for more. You will meet people there that give you protection because connection is protection. They are your first responders. In an emergency, go to noagendameetups.com, find one near you. If you can't find one, start one yourself. There's no charge, no licensing, no ID check. Just put it together, have a good time with no agenda. All always a party. Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days. You want to be where you won't be triggered or hell to lame. You want to be where everybody feels the same. It's like a party. All right, now, Mimi, you came with nine ISOs. Nine?

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

I'm an overachiever.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, you are. And I'm just gonna play mine. I have actually have. What do I have? I have four of them. I thought it was loaded for bear, so I'll play mine first, and then we'll go through yours. Here we go. Well, I guess that's it. That's your boy. You recognize him, huh? Yeah. Who is.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Sounds like Tucker.

[Adam Curry]

No, no, listen.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

No, who is it?

[Adam Curry]

Listen again. Listen again. You'll get it. Well, I guess that's. That's it. You're in love with him. Asmongold.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Oh, it doesn't sound like him. That's funny.

[Adam Curry]

All right, next one.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

I am in love with him.

[Adam Curry]

Yes, I know you. All right, he is the next one. Okay, bye. This is a classic. That's important information you might want to write down, folks.

[John C. Dvorak]

Okay.

[Adam Curry]

Okay. And then this is just the. This is my favorite.

[John C. Dvorak]

We're pounding it, like, real, really pounding it hard.

[Adam Curry]

Kind of. Kind of like that one. All right, so now, Mimi, with your. I can't. I don't even have enough players on my system to load them all up. All right, which one do we go? We go in order?

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Yes, let's go in order.

[Adam Curry]

Okay. Number one, ride.

[Liz Landers]

Because I can give you a ride

[Adam Curry]

if you need a ride. Okay. Number two, I was not prepared for whatever that was. Oh, that's kind of. It's a little muddled. Not that you can help that okay, number three, you can go.

[Tucker Carlson]

You don't have to. You can hang around still great, but you can go.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, it's too long. It's too. Okay, four. Shows over. Shows over. That's cute. This next one's too long too. These are too long, but I'll play them.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Y' all hear me in there? Rent was due last dang Thursday. No more.

[British Empire/City of London Analyst]

That app ain't working. Hogwash.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

You said that last go round. And the one before that.

[Adam Curry]

She ain't charity.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

It's me.

[Adam Curry]

Unacceptable. Unacceptably long.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

I know, but it's cute.

[Adam Curry]

Okay, gotta get going.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

I miss you already.

[Adam Curry]

Oh, that's cute. I like that one. See this? Another one that's way too long. Mimi, give me your n. What is that? No, no, you, you don't understand isos.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

All right, I know, but I thought it was funny.

[Adam Curry]

Number eight.

[John C. Dvorak]

What?

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

What? Okay, and then you know who that is?

[Adam Curry]

That's Tucker. That's Tucker. Yeah. And this is a longer one.

[Tucker Carlson]

What?

[Adam Curry]

What are about? I kind of like. Let me see. Was it this one? No, no, that's not. I like. This one is kind of what I like. Gotta get going.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

I miss you already. Stop.

[Adam Curry]

Kind of like that one. You get to choose.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Oh, you know what? I, I, I'm fine. You choose whatever you want.

[Adam Curry]

Number six it is, everybody. And before we go, of course it is time for the T tip of the day with the one and only Mimi.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Great advice for you and me.

[Adam Curry]

Just the tip with JCD and sometimes Adam.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Well, hopefully this isn't one that John's already done because I'm always raving about this product, but I think he doesn't like it because of the name. I have four elderly dogs, so my biggest hobby in life is picking is cleaning up dog pee.

[Adam Curry]

What is elderly? How old are you is elderly?

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

I have a basset hound who is 16 years old, which is twice the age of a normal basset.

[Adam Curry]

Yeah, that's up there for sure.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

And I've got two 12 year olds and an 11 year old Mastiff. So they're all quite old. Okay, yeah, they're all really old.

[Adam Curry]

And are they all incontinent? Is that what you're telling me? They all pee areas.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

You sure?

[Adam Curry]

They're just not trained properly. It's just.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

No, no, no. This is. No, dogs don't pee when they're walking. Okay? So, yeah, my, my animals are getting much too old and diapers are, I'd be changing diapers all day, so I just clean the floor constantly. So this product Is called My Pet Peed.

[Adam Curry]

No, this has not been featured on the show, I guarantee you.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Yeah, I know. My Pet Peed. The last word is P E E D. It removes pet stains and odors like it's magic. It's safe around kids, around pets, around plants. It gets the smell out. It's fragrance free. It does not rely on enzymes.

[Adam Curry]

What's it made of? This magic formula?

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

It's some strange type of hydrogen peroxide. So it may take the color out of some natural fiber carpets, but for the most part, I don't care. I want the smell out more than I don't care about color anymore.

[Adam Curry]

Your dogs are peeing on your carpet.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

No, I've got washable carpets everywhere and rugs everywhere. I, I have all hardwood floors or all wood floors.

[Adam Curry]

Now I know why John doesn't want to move up there. It's obvious. It's a pee house.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Someday I'm gonna, someday I'm gonna fall. I'm gonna die because I'm gonna fall on, on pet pee and, and I'll just be in the puddle and you know.

[Adam Curry]

Okay. Nice visual. Thank you. We got it. We got it.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

You use it straight, you use it sparingly. It's expensive. For a 32 ounce spray, it's $34.95. The best deal on Amazon is a two pack which is, is 49.95. I buy it by the gallon. 128 fluid ounces or Florida ounces and that's like $79, you know, $80. It works so well though. It lasts a while. It really does get the smell out. It gets stains out of carpets, you know, if they're color fast. I use it constantly and I, I, I don't think I would be able to stand the smell of my house if I didn't use this stuff. And I've tried everything on the market.

[Adam Curry]

Can you also use it if you kill someone? They bleed out. Does it get rid of that and.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Oh yeah, absolutely. It would do a good job. Yeah. Or if, or if you have, you know, a pukey family or if you, or for a good cleaning product, if you have like a really grimy place that you've forgotten to clean for years, you spray some of that on and, and you leave it for a couple hours. Then you wipe it up and it is beautiful.

[Adam Curry]

So give us the name again of this fabulous product.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

My Pet Peed.

[Adam Curry]

My pet peeve. There it is, everybody. A spooktacular tip of the day from meme. Just the tip with JCD and Sometimes Adam Created by Dana Burnetti well, there you go. Mimi, it has been a pleasure working with you.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

It's been lovely, but it's way too much work for me. I have, no one's seen me in two weeks. I'm like, I have to work. I have to work. And I'm still not good at it, but I'm starting to get the hang of it. So next time John needs a fill in, I guess I could do it.

[Adam Curry]

I really appreciate is above and beyond and it's just been so great, great to. To get to know you a little bit better after all these years. And the next time we talk, it'll be some crap about me getting you information for taxes. So we got to do that too.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Ah, yeah, don't remind me.

[Adam Curry]

I'm so behind Tina's like. We're filing late, aren't we? Probably.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

Oh yeah, no, we've already filed late. It's fine. We've filed extensions for the business anyway. Yeah.

[Adam Curry]

Thank you very much, no Agenda Nation for being with us. Coming up next on the no Agenda stream, we have. Oh, DH Unplugged. This will be with Horowitz and the young John Dvorak, which I hear he's done a really good job. The whole family's been pitching him end of show mixes. We've got. What do we have? We have Professor J. Jones, we've got the Klip control custodian and more. And we'll be back on Sunday with the return of John C. Dvorak. Until then, adios mofos a hui hooey and such.

[Chrissy Gnome]

I'm concerned about Benjamin Netanyahu. The fact that he knew where Hamas was getting its money in 2018.

[Adam Curry]

He refused to cut it off.

[Chrissy Gnome]

I'm concerned that he continued to prop Hamas up.

[Adam Curry]

I'm concerned that Benjamin Netanyahu had Hamas's

[Chrissy Gnome]

terrorism terrorist plans a year before the

[Adam Curry]

terrorist attacks and they did nothing after the attacks.

[Chrissy Gnome]

Did nothing for 6, 7, 8, 10 hours.

[Adam Curry]

They were ill prepared.

[Chrissy Gnome]

I've never seen anything like it.

[Adam Curry]

Are we really going to tie Israel's future up to this man and say if those of us who love Israel, those of us who were taught in Sunday school when we were five years, odd years, odd years that Jews are God's chosen people because 6 million were slaughtered in the Holocaust. Are we not allowed to question Benjamin Netanyahu's motives? Because if not, that's pretty sick. And it's not in Israel's best interest. Because all countries need allies. Here is a group of people who

[John C. Dvorak]

we can use as the theoreticians and the executors of the US policy that we want.

[Adam Curry]

And Israel is an ally. It's a fight against ally that pulls its weight. America's landed aircraft carrier, we're the junior partner. We have fought now seven front war. We have an eighth front. The infosphere is the eighth front. And seizing the high ground in the fight for global public opinion is a battle.

[Guest or Expert Commentator]

He told these people, I think they're going to kill me. Who is they? Charlie writes in this group chat just lost another huge Jewish donor. Jewish donors play into all of the stereotypes. I cannot and will not be bullied like this.

[Liz Landers]

Reporters in Gaza are Palestinians.

[Adam Curry]

And those people fall into three categories. Some of them identify with Hamas, some of them are intimidated.

[Liz Landers]

And the third category is people who

[Adam Curry]

actually belong to Hamas.

[Liz Landers]

The ap, like all of its sister

[Adam Curry]

organizations, collaborates with Hamas. Censorship in Gaza, what does that mean? The center of the coverage will be enough number a casualty number that is

[Liz Landers]

provided to the press by something called the Gaza Health Ministry, which is Hamas.

[Adam Curry]

And it's a way of basically settling the story before you get into any other information. General Michael Flynn calls out Netanyahu and

[Tucker Carlson]

the Israeli military leadership for clearly standing down.

[Adam Curry]

But the point is, and, and so these governments all need a boogeyman. I'm your boogeyman. Somebody had had a bunch of the troops stand down.

[Chrissy Gnome]

I mean this, this is 911 all over again.

[Adam Curry]

I'm your boogeyman. Breakthrough overrun.

[Chrissy Gnome]

Go in.

[Adam Curry]

Israel supports a mosque. There's a lot of back channel wink,

[Chrissy Gnome]

wink going on here.

[Tucker Carlson]

Suitcases full of cats.

[Adam Curry]

It is true. I'm your boogie now. And so these governments all need a boogeyman. No, I don't support a mosque.

[Chrissy Gnome]

You are 100% right.

[Adam Curry]

We don't support a mosque. I'm your boogeyman. I looked it up. Israeli intelligence created Hamas. General Michael Flynn calls out Netanyahu. Let's be clear. There's no way I'm your boogeyman. Israel supports a mosque. It is true. I looked it up. No, I don't support a mosque. I'm your boogeyman. I mean this is 911 all over again. But the point is, I'm your boogeyman. Suitcases full of cats. There's a lot of back channel wink, wink going on here. I looked it up. And, and so these governments all need a boogeyman.

[Chrissy Gnome]

Breakthrough overrun. Go in.

[Adam Curry]

A. Gotta get going.

[Mimi Smith Dvorak]

I miss you. Already stopped.